From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 01:04:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7553A3BEB9; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=A7uF3qFl+xWbddZQ/QCEH6Mja+/FXevwhvYRSth7YZ3xtzx1BHXfL9BTSu5R+j7I7RvBPzFpj/qHjFOejY1yfRwcTLqw5IddKaJSAuuN7l+Rb/DqBZd2GZwqSdNtbPbjEnc8aM91soHajruHudDe6b56uHZjp6NUjCjfu+PTFqI= Message-ID: <9e0440a60612311704w6e6c7bf0q26563a9d1f25ab13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:04:30 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Happy New Year and a Great Loopin' 2007 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_123976_14652215.1167613470277" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:04:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_123976_14652215.1167613470277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to all on the list. I wanted to pass on a great New Year or to those in Europe a belated New Year and the best to everyone in 07 filled with much creative wave, opportunities, collaborative projects, fortune and most importantly, personal and world peace is always the hope in a New Year. In subtle promotion I wanted to mention 3 recently posted video's on YouTube, 2 solo with pieces I wrote for a long time influence and saddly gone, Michael Hedges , and the 3rd featuring a project born from this list connection. Composer/guitarist/loop artist Daryl Shawn and I met back in the summer through a random email I sent for info via loopers-delight. That interaction led to Y2K6 and beyond creating what we call Chinapainting. *Solo video - For Michael* - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvhRDdBvP-I *Solo video - Departures* - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ_Vbk2JIYQ - (forgive the wind noise went for the moment here) *Chinapainting - November 4th*- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkDHjc2h-Cg For any of you who will be at the Winter NAMM show in Anaheim, CA, please let me know as I would like to meet you. I have relationships with GHS Strings and Seagull Guitars and will be around those booths but mostly I'll be roaming the show. For anyone there or with family/friends in the LA area I wanted to also mention that I have one show scheduled while in southern CA. I'll be performing in a *GHS Strings clinic * at the *Puente Hills/Industry City (suburban LA) **Sam Ash Music* * on January 18th at 7pm.* Again it's great to be part of this collective. I hope to get to know everyone better in 07, I came in as said on the throws of Y2K and that said I really look forward to Y2K7 Loopfest. Best to all and Happy New Year. Cheers Jim Goodin http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodin.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_123976_14652215.1167613470277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hello to all on the list.  I wanted to pass on a great New Year or to those in Europe a belated New Year and the best to everyone in 07 filled with much creative wave, opportunities, collaborative projects, fortune and most importantly, personal and world peace is always the hope in a New Year.
 
In subtle promotion I wanted to mention 3 recently posted video's on YouTube, 2 solo with pieces I wrote for a long time influence and saddly gone, Michael Hedges, and the 3rd featuring a project born from this list connection.  Composer/guitarist/loop artist Daryl Shawn and I met back in the summer through a random email I sent for info via loopers-delight.  That interaction led to Y2K6 and beyond creating what we call Chinapainting.
 
Solo video - Departures -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ_Vbk2JIYQ - (forgive the wind noise went for the moment here)
 
For any of you who will be at the Winter NAMM show in Anaheim, CA, please let me know as I would like to meet you.  I have relationships with  GHS Strings and Seagull Guitars and will be around those booths but mostly I'll be roaming the show.  For anyone there or with family/friends in the LA area I wanted to also mention that I have one show scheduled while in southern CA.  I'll be performing in a GHS Strings clinic at the Puente Hills/Industry City (suburban LA) Sam Ash Music on January 18th at 7pm.
 
Again it's great to be part of this collective.  I hope to get to know everyone better in 07, I came in as said on the throws of Y2K and that said I really look forward to Y2K7 Loopfest.  Best to all and Happy New Year. 
 
Cheers
 
Jim Goodin


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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodin.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere
Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com
The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

Associates and friends on the web -
Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com
------=_Part_123976_14652215.1167613470277-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 01:25:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 719853BEB3; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FBr6EowKpGRxUd1ezB3YC/rNxgi2+U6aObYB5HXHWIkp/qWWDWBGjZYoQoPYuMTW0YJjeEWZClUXlvG1sY6MUFJcIf33A31usAikgxt4KXo6L2MlV1LZkqQ5BIldA1tmslXc3i1v7OczRPtZDPSdbX8SEl5YCcd9Y0jBJ3WErb0=; X-YMail-OSG: hY9dDWMVM1lvOV30QB0Lnd8zDGk5Mu8MJC0K3BiQoOPFakYg0QYBvCNJ1R1mKgIXIXC7qS.ZyzYcQcYBQo4vrXVdn5eEaUsVmZiMDz_5Gmp.peMRFG3InByb.cx.W62yK6d5a0IZfGg4Rag- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:25:38 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: live looping To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <5h6DUD.A.vnF.UMGmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:25:40 +0000 (UTC) howdy, can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing? I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked". Is this what you guys are discussing? Is there older thrifty type harware out there that will allow me to add sounds as i manipulate the echoes? Am I on the right track here? thanx Rig __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 01:45:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5FEC3BEAF; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Ts5+K19J7Aw0ylqmaOldbW1Mfh1iJ2TjzAv1q0pwRAa8imbCmQizK3bYkNSi1l1Z3C20rT6ZXYnvVw0Wm5PA70uzAczwn9MYxHqM/utOGkHJT9H0qVV9IQ8Asm2hL42W6Wg/2GaNoWh2YbHgfGhmcEA6z7lvK4OnG56b3qrMta0=; X-YMail-OSG: 2Vki_3QVM1k9s6y4CpWZ88cL3HQIuVcnZ9K5WTA4OY4mB5nwvVqOcpIEgNq1r1w30DY8OdbEKUfGj2nb0hdoQmU15oNmioqYZVrOtCm2Jy4FZxlJ5j3Do2CiPV7vu6tTlWR0YH.Cp.q1EaM- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:45:32 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: live looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <899960.97251.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:45:34 +0000 (UTC) --- bill bigrig wrote: > howdy, > > can someone explain to me this "live looping" > thing? Oh, you're already doing it my friend. > I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing > the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, > repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't know about the DM-1100s, but a lot of units in it's day let you "freeze" (Set feedback to 100% and not feed any more signal into the loop) but also allow you to open the loop back up and continue adding. Often if you change the feedback to less than 100% you can get nice evolving loops (though technically it's no longer a true loop we still talk about that effect as such here) There's lots of units that do some looping and not all of them are really expensive. Your best bet is to take a trip over to the "tools of the trade" page on Looper's Delight and read a brief description and review of most of them to get a feel for what's possible. Then check ebay to see the prices of different things. I still think one of the great loopers of our time is the Lexicon JamMan and it can often be found fairly cheaply on ebay. Other classics are the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro and Electrix Repeater, but they're more high end loopers filled with lots of features and often fetch fairly high prices even used. I think the Echoplex is still in production though. The current most full featured hardware based looper out there is the Looperlative. That baby will set you back $1500 I think, but I'm told it's become an amazing product. If you have a decent computer and firewire or usb2 audio card then Mobius or Angstromloop are VST loopers that are FREE. Angstomloop is very simple (though useful) and Mobius is very full featured and roughly based on the Echoplex. With either you'll also want a MIDI controller. Good luck, Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 01:58:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 392943BECC; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: fabio anile Reply-To: fabio anile To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Happy 2007 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:58:26 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:58:56 +0000 (UTC) 2007 will see my new CD out and the Speech project (a ct collective project). happy looping from Barcellona (Spain). fabio From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 02:00:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 764703BECC; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=p7wQjF7wUot8+B1imXQnioUJ74ex15XIQwqlIaMRms5W/UcYKkAnoKUu40WOqN8x4obIHW8izviAFasxIesand6yStp80mPLuwsjSpGbVn3EjNNJxD/pJXGiZ9IB1mRGd16G/lRkEu6uiJB2uigKpSTAqoyDUZ5TITEmxa1gkhU= ; Message-ID: <20070101020000.11316.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6mhLD78VM1nRJszblLdSMXUg.tS9y9nTDGCXoCXVsGT6c9BXTOI39Lt0mZTeRcX3wyO6sii5SJz1Ck8W8niZlXoNDp2ns0HsjV4hJrrcYIICa18AKw6ejJa8VF7JIM1e1O.mNZEFSK5w7Q-- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: LOOPING VOCALIST: Imogen Heap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:00:01 +0000 (UTC) The demise of the LP marked the end of me knowing the names of songs, sadly, but it was all amazing. --- David Coffin wrote: > Man, I’d love to see her; what’s the live version of > Hide and Seek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 02:05:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 021803BEB0; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=fb0hGTjFqvilPfbV21NCGanDQ/aNlUuJ1VACCweLRK9lQikzA75d1ArLDX2vi54V; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070101020000.11316.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070101020000.11316.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <39B755F3-9C09-42F3-B873-7A8E7571F0E9@earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: David Coffin Subject: Re: LOOPING VOCALIST: Imogen Heap Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:05:25 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7940d71b8bcb3cc90ce61c219e6357ae73350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.118.48.94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I had to dig out the CD to recall the title...but the SOUND is =20 unforgettable: it=92s the vocoded one...watch it here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DDaMFXLTSK1Y&mode=3Drelated&search=3D On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:00 PM, mark sottilaro wrote: > The demise of the LP marked the end of me knowing the > names of songs, sadly, but it was all amazing. > > --- David Coffin wrote: > >> Man, I=92d love to see her; what=92s the live version of >> Hide and Seek > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 05:34:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E0073BEB5; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 05:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009201c72d66$80ae7720$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: generative rhythm approach Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:34:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 05:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, this is cool stuff, Bernhard. Thanks for posting it. I wanted to comment on one thing you wrote as it is a subject that fascinates me with generative rhythms. you wrote: "I think the fascination comes from the equal distance between 1, 2, 3, and 4, consisting of five 16ths each. This creates the illusion of a 5-rhythm which is discarded at the beginning of each bar." A way of viewing all repeating odd time figures (when playing in an even time context improvisationally or compositionally) is that they are displacements of normal even time figures. I call this rhythmic strategy, Rhythmic Displacement It is one of the formal lessons in the Rhythm Intensive that I've started posting so I'll post it later if you are interested. Thanks for the really cool generative approach. I too love generative systems. I always wanted to write a book called Generative Systems for the Modern Drummer for people who can play a simple rock and roll drum beat and play a single stroke drum roll on a snare but who may not live in an area where there is a good teacher to help them with what comes next. If anyone who plays drums on this list wants some cool exercises to expand their skill set on the drumset, let me know I'll send you a couple. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 07:25:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92AD33BEB9; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 07:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-350533838 From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Album release Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:24:54 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: finleysound@fastermac.net X-SpamDetect: *: 1.200000 Suspicious tags-to-text ratio=1.2 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 0, in=1, out=0, spam=0 ip=66.248.89.27 X-Originating-IP: 66.248.89.27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 07:25:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-350533838 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am releasing my new King Never album, Lullabies & Sleepless Nights, tomorrow, January 1, 2007. It's all guitar and mostly looped. The title and material was inspired by my kids. Feedback is always welcome. Samples available at www.kingnever.com/ agnv2.html. Matt P.S. Yes, I'm vying for the coveted "First Looping Album of the Year" award! --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com --Apple-Mail-2-350533838 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
I am releasing my new King = Never album, Lullabies & Sleepless Nights, tomorrow, January 1, = 2007.=A0 It's all guitar and mostly looped.=A0 The title and material = was inspired by my kids.=A0=A0

Feedback is always = welcome.=A0 Samples available at www.kingnever.com/agnv2.html<= /A>.



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= --Apple-Mail-2-350533838-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 13:07:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5C2F3BEB8; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Q6FzP/Mom2akzmGgZWEiwnS86RnZyc/KeejMdNU2d8JSf+slTufY/5adLIzjbGV4UXQxSLmsiOPpQxTfZ4h6PwsBYmKwNxsWtbIdk8t+3UcWD6jIZL+506pqJXJxKPknLG854/TURZVRtmSDoS3DRqCIOd6DhdgJYvQrfq4jQQI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: live looping Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:06:57 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <2NzgY.A.wyH.2dQmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:07:02 +0000 (UTC) On 1 jan 2007, at 02.25, bill bigrig wrote: > howdy, > > can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing? > I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing > the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, > repetition, and mod controls in real time. That's almost the same Ibanez box that got me into live looping back in the early eighties. > I don't > know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked". I don't think that is possible. What you could do is to hook it up with a mixer, or some other signal splitting device, and send the delay output back into the input - but though a volume pedal. This pedal then becomes what among loopers is called "a feedback pedal". When the "Hold" button is open your loop will stay the same when the pedal is in the "full volume" position and you will be able to add your playing to the looping audio. Lower the pedal volume a bit and your played input will replace the looping audio, a little more for each round depending on pedal position. And if you want to play on top of the loop, without your live playing getting recorded, you simply step on the "Hold" button pedal (my Ibanez had jack for using a normal switcher pedal for the Hold function). Be sure to check out Mark's reply in this thread, some good hints given there. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 14:55:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFA883BEB5; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070101145458.54261.qmail@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=W157WZMAa6C5RSbDFA0ksOLFDhKizF6CTiSA1T4PyOoRtN/pDO6Nl8ywWTGGiq7xoF/nR8bTybhe6oL7LzFnioZ26skZXTrL2fSWlOwysohEEVlaaR7hOBzuWjd8yPuyGtbBCjat8SwD/W8vOK0LnbT/ZRu1csQvTXPA5S9dpTk=; X-YMail-OSG: Erl83gsVM1mW_rPd48K9WDDqDvOW8yj9QeUJeblbej.pYN6pG6ZHprxqZZ4dgUOyI3v3B57LJa7nscac9imfRYsTp2DibzAcBG8TisNBciNbTxoG5TAv5g-- Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 06:54:58 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: 2007!!!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <014001c72c0a$07e40e70$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) wonderful mails brother happy new year to you and all as well! But you didnt tell me you play the armenian Duduk i love that instrument! where did u get it?? Cheers Luis --- RICK WALKER wrote: > Happy New Years to Everybody! > > I think 2007 may be the cultural watershed year of > this first decade of the > new Millennium > in much the way the 1967 and 1968 were defining > years, culturally in the > 1960s. > > We've been in a really flat place for a long time > here in the United States > (waiting out the Bush > regime's end) but I think the tide has turned, > culturally and artistically. > > The older paradigms of the music industry are dying > rapidly (Tower Records > completely out of business?). > We are in a new phase where people don't listen to > whole albums much > anymore..................they are able > to get the lion share of their music for free on the > web and listen to it on > I pods. > > A lot of things are changing which means that a lot > of new ways of > communicating are on their ways. > > The musical and artistic communities of the future > are starting to be built > now through places > like this website, tribe.net, myspace, > youtube.com, etc. > > The amount of information on many, many things > musically is available almost > instantaneously, now on the web. > I spent the evening watching looping French pop > vocalists, Russian world > fusion multi-instrumentalists, 12 years > old South Indian girls who are going to be the next > generations' master > drummers, online tutorials for > Max/MSP and Jitter, directions for reinstalling my > MAudio Firewire audio > computer interface, all > just sitting in front of my computer. I worked > on Arabic maqams on my > Armenian Duduk, my purple anodized > pocket trumpet, my Rick Turner purple fretless > acoustic/electric bass and > my voice out of a book that I found > online and ordered through the independent bookstore > where my wife works. > > Ten years ago, ney five years ago, I couldn't > have possibly had as > productive and knowledge increasing a day as I did > today. > > *********************************** > Someone once said that artists are the Antennae of a > Culture. Because they > are so sensitive, they can frequently see changes > coming in the culture long before they occur. > > It's an exciting time to be alive............... a > challenging time to be > alive, ecologically and economically. > A lot of things are going to change and very, very > rapidly. > > I think we are on the cutting edge in this musical > movement of Live Looping > of a lot of what's going to change and define > the paradigms of live playing in the next decades to > come. > > In the past years, a very large number of very > famous and prominent artists > had musicians in their bands who are using live > looping tools. I saw a > show with Thomas Dolby, Loop Station and Genie > where EVERYONE was looping > live on stage > and there wasn't a single word about Live Looping > anywhere. That made me > really happy. > > We are finally starting to arrive in the musical > landscape. I could not > have written that paragraph 5 years ago. > > Things are changing. > > I feel happy and blessed to be part of this > community that is so innovative > and also so supportive of each other's artistry. > > Happy New Years everyone. May you all have a > fantastic year, creatively. > > Throw caution to the > wind....................................Put out a > CD! > Throw a festival! Buy recordings from your > fellow artists. > Let's do it!!!!!! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 16:34:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41AF63BEB8; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VXgpVaJ5xcPLbn0SaxM9UbPQ9AAtv3RjSSPQtu9hvNTmJ0iH1y2wfrj2VrmElkJneMFwBcIN90aYX8FeFbzXckhtRQiRgNRjSiui9BG3AhGb+8pjH27xzJeJW/3ITqJ0DNQ8KXHzqDZRnxyu0mhYourw21xivX0PFwf9kdFIBNE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 08:34:50 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: live looping In-Reply-To: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_209005_23139668.1167669290277" References: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8IW3m.A.SdE.sgTmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:34:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_209005_23139668.1167669290277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm not sure what your question is--I used to have one of those, and as I recall the Hold function and the feedback level were independent, like in most rack mount delays. What you can do is set the feedback to maximum and build up a loop, then hit Hold. Whatever's in the loop will stay there. If you want to add something, turn the Hold off, and the loop will continue to decay at whatever level the feedback control is set to while you add more material. You can have the feedback at something low, 25% or so to cause the loop to decay/evolve quickly, or keep it pretty close to the max for the Wall of Sound. Without Hold enabled the loop will eventually fade away since I don't think the feedback could be set to 100%, but you could use an external mixer to manage the actual feedback loop, at the expense of added noise. TravisH On 12/31/06, bill bigrig wrote: > > howdy, > > can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing? > I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing > the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, > repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't > know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked". > Is this what you guys are discussing? Is there older > thrifty type harware out there that will allow me to > add sounds as i manipulate the echoes? Am I on the > right track here? thanx > Rig > > _ ------=_Part_209005_23139668.1167669290277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm not sure what your question is--I used to have one of those, and as I recall the Hold function and the feedback level were independent, like in most rack mount delays.  What you can do is set the feedback to maximum and build up a loop, then hit Hold.  Whatever's in the loop will stay there.  If you want to add something, turn the Hold off, and the loop will continue to decay at whatever level the feedback control is set to while you add more material.  You can have the feedback at something low, 25% or so to cause the loop to decay/evolve quickly, or keep it pretty close to the max for the Wall of Sound. 

Without Hold enabled the loop will eventually fade away since I don't think the feedback could be set to 100%, but you could use an external mixer to manage the actual feedback loop, at the expense of added noise.

TravisH

On 12/31/06, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote:
howdy,

can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing?
I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing
the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed,
repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't
know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked".
Is this what you guys are discussing? Is there older
thrifty type harware out there that will allow me to
add sounds as i manipulate the echoes? Am I on the
right track here? thanx
Rig

_

------=_Part_209005_23139668.1167669290277-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 17:59:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA2D73BEC2; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45994BE7.2010302@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 12:59:03 -0500 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per References: <07e601c72d27$b86db340$51b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Richard Sales wrote: > I do have an unscientific opinion. I do not believe the sound of metal > instruments is because of aging but more because of the type of metal > (brass) that was used and how it was formed. > I think this is an argument, like politics and religion, which one can > not win. Maybe a real scientist can add some scientific data, but I will > still take my old Super 20 or Mark VI over any of the pretty new axes > that are on the market. A real scientist? I've managed to fool NASA into thinking so for quite awhile. :-) When this subject came up a couple weeks ago, I talked to a metallurgist friend about metal aging. He normally works on developing new alloys for jet engine internals. Come to think of it, that's probably pretty relevant, since jet engines and saxophones in operation are both full of hot air and make loud, annoying noises. It's been a long time since I looked at Art Benade's book on musical acoustics, so any real acoustics jocks on the list should feel free to offer corrections or howl in outrage. If memory serves, a textbook wind instrument has infinitely stiff walls, and its sound is determined by its shape, the mouthpiece, the player's oral cavity, the reed, etc. As you move from a textbook idealization to a real-world instrument, the walls are no longer infinitely stiff, and, if they become thin and compliant enough, start to contribute to the sound by selectively damping certain frequencies (the tone holes also provide damping, but that's another issue). So, in principal, the properties of the metal can affect the sound. These properties can change over time, although thermodynamics dictates that the changes usually happen slowly. During instrument construction, metal is typically bent, rolled and generally abused, which work-hardens it, building in internal stresses. The stresses can be annealed out by heat treating, but if that isn't done, stress-relief can still occur slowly over time via the motion of defects called dislocations, resulting in a softer metal. Also, depending on the specific alloy and its heat treatment history, additional phases may slowly precipitate out, forming small islands within the bulk alloy. These islands may coalesce over time, via a process called Ostwald ripening, to form fewer but larger islands. There's also the issue of surface treatment--most instruments are lacquered, but some are plated, and different platings sound different. This suggests that if the surface were to oxidize over time, it might affect the sound as well. I don't know whether this stuff would be enough to cause an audible difference over time; probably somebody at Selmer knows the answer. As a physicist, my understanding of this is pretty superficial, and a real metallurgist could probably offer a better explanation. Having said all this, I haven't noticed changes in the sounds of my seventies-vintage Mk VI soprano or tenor. Or, rather, any changes are likely masked by changes in reeds and mouthpieces, and the fact that aging seems to affect the player much worse than the instruments. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 18:08:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02CA53BEC7; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 18:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:08:06 +0100 (MET) From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <45994BE7.2010302@adelphia.net> Thread-Index: AcctzomxzQ3PiH4wRMSPELVUbYiMXQAARV9g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq Resent-Message-ID: <-VmpcB.A.Z0G.J4UmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 18:08:09 +0000 (UTC) The short answer to the "blowthru instrument material" question I received from the guy behind www.eppelsheim.com: The material is highly relevant for woodwinds, much less (only slightly) for brass instruments. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 19:13:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43C8A3BEC7; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=a/uDxnr9KM3fq9BX6dDhERS3mwGM6GXHA509nZt3WubFfoWDPDu3hqkSfScMKwwPgHmiA1HcgPvl+JDMG6UuHiMsARR9mlKJgr+5YpKrtUDco2kwr+jBKhj/0Buyl0wgeOKACcynZFDGmvhCWP6NmLuD2m4zKxrRlUgtGZ8yE/k= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: AW: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 20:12:53 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:13:00 +0000 (UTC) On 1 jan 2007, at 19.08, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > The short answer to the "blowthru instrument material" question I > received > from the guy behind www.eppelsheim.com: > > The material is highly relevant for woodwinds, much less (only > slightly) for > brass instruments. > > Rainer Interesting. Was he really talking about the general body of the instrument? Maybe he meant the specific matter that creates the sound in the first place? Which are the players lips in brass instrument and traditionally a slice of bamboo wood for reed instruments like saxophone. Of course the material of the little vibrating reed is highly relevant. I started using fiber coated bamboo reeds which gives a totally different sound (but that was before I started using an EWI instead of a a sax, reducing the need for reeds to zero). I think plastic saxophones are cool! But I wouldn't want a red one, I'd prefer a dark green, or brown, with big orange dots. I've heard they sound good too! 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Any tips on how to make the repeaters output into 4 seperat output - going onto my motu-then onto the mac ? Rune F. www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 __________________________________________________ Bruker du Yahoo!? Lei av spam? Yahoo! Mail har den beste spambeskyttelsen http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 21:16:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 671153BECA; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701012116.l01LGfOF025895@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: live looping Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:16:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcctQ8EnrZGbW0beSZeOgJARadlN5QAluHUg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Live looping, as I see it, is the use of an audio recording device that allows the player to create repeating musical ideas, i.e. loops, in real time. These devices range from the simple functionality of your DM1100's to sophistication of Loop recorders like the EDP and Looperlative, as well as state of the art software for lap tops. Check the Archives. In addition to what Mark and Per said, I wanted to add another strategy for using your DM1100. You would need a volume pedal, and some kind of splitter box ( a stereo chorus or ABY box would do) to make this work. You run your instrument in to the splitter box, send one output from the splitter to your mixer or monitor source, and the other output to the volume pedal, and then your delay/looper, in your case a DM1100, and finally to your mixer or monitor source. The beauty of this technique is you can leave your feed back at %100, or what ever, and never use the hold, because you can let the volume pedal feed the delay, and add to your loop as you see fit. A cool technique you can use, with this type of routing, is you can strike a chord or note, with the volume pedal in the heal down position, push the volume pedal forward to toe down position,, and get attack-less loops, i.e. ,you have the ability to truncate your instruments attack by manipulating the volume pedal feeding your delay/looper.. I have set up the hold delay algorithm on my Vox Tonelab in this way , assigning an expression pedal to control delay input feed, and the other to control the delay/loop feedback. I don't even use a hold function, as the delay set at %100 is infinite anyway. Instead, I opt to have a tap tempo function, so I can change the delay/loop length at will, and use the algorithm as a more conventional delay as well. As you will find Bill, there are now so many ways to loop, so many devices available, and a wealth of info on this site about it. Good luck. Bill -----Original Message----- From: bill bigrig [mailto:billbigrig@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 5:26 PM To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Subject: live looping howdy, can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing? I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked". Is this what you guys are discussing? Is there older thrifty type harware out there that will allow me to add sounds as i manipulate the echoes? Am I on the right track here? thanx Rig __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 21:20:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A95403BED2; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701012120.l01LKHVR028465@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: making 4 outputs on the repeater Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:20:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20070101202805.38369.qmail@web26214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Acct41uKD7r61rL4R6Wmyz7vseGeQwABtKog X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Use the stereo effects outputs (the returns) that will act as tracks 3 and 4, and then for best results hard pan all of your tracks alternating R/l/R/l, for best separation, and don't for get hit the effects loop engage button. , This will however not allow you to use the Repeater's effects loop in a conventional way. Bill -----Original Message----- From: rune fagereng [mailto:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no] Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 12:28 PM To: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com; loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: making 4 outputs on the repeater Hi ! Any tips on how to make the repeaters output into 4 seperat output - going onto my motu-then onto the mac ? Rune F. www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 __________________________________________________ Bruker du Yahoo!? Lei av spam? Yahoo! Mail har den beste spambeskyttelsen http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 22:01:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ADD33BED3; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-403124645 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: AW: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:01:25 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <5fZvKC.A.vlE.FTYmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:01:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-403124645 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 1-Jan-07, at 11:12 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > I think plastic saxophones are cool! But I wouldn't want a red one, > I'd prefer a dark green, or brown, with big orange dots. I've heard > they sound good too! You know, when Charlie Parker played in Washington DC, I heard he played a plastic sax. Apparently he'd hocked his good one for heroin! I think this is all very fascinating. I think what my friend was saying was that saxes were MADE differently in the old days with lots of hands on working of the horn. So each horn could have a character of its own based on the individual building it which made for inconsistent instruments with some being amazing and some being... arf! So far it's a good new year and I got a wicked new axe for Christmas - a Husqvarna 365 chain saw with a 24" bar. How is this relevant to looping? Well... it IS a LOOP! And it's LOUD! 50+ trees down in my woods from the wind. I'M STILL ON TOPIC... wood... winds... two stroke looper. And, Per, it's from Sweden!!! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > --Apple-Mail-3-403124645 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII On 1-Jan-07, at 11:12 AM, Per Boysen wrote: I think plastic saxophones are cool! But I wouldn't want a red one, I'd prefer a dark green, or brown, with big orange dots. I've heard they sound good too! You know, when Charlie Parker played in Washington DC, I heard he played a plastic sax. Apparently he'd hocked his good one for heroin! I think this is all very fascinating. I think what my friend was saying was that saxes were MADE differently in the old days with lots of hands on working of the horn. So each horn could have a character of its own based on the individual building it which made for inconsistent instruments with some being amazing and some being... arf! So far it's a good new year and I got a wicked new axe for Christmas - a Husqvarna 365 chain saw with a 24" bar. How is this relevant to looping? Well... it IS a LOOP! And it's LOUD! 50+ trees down in my woods from the wind. I'M STILL ON TOPIC... wood... winds... two stroke looper. And, Per, it's from Sweden!!! Gadgetrichard sales 7372,7F7E,C5C4glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C2,9695,1C1B www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom --Apple-Mail-3-403124645-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 23:12:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40EA83BECD; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=d/MsYZPjtf3r+eT3uaALQqWQv+BqP7nyPnnix8Mv5zP99EE9fnKPTSNlTkkgnB7tJY7N4dYgDJD0Gy/OMUL7hDBTTx2Sp4HujYr6qTqgjGQtcG5zcNHiajQd0GDeQzJh232FHs0sE6iNMNCzr8lLywEO9K2B+aVM5V0faRpYNik= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <01AAD97F-3C1A-4D14-B212-9D41C1D53F26@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: AW: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 00:12:39 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:12:44 +0000 (UTC) On 1 jan 2007, at 23.01, Richard Sales wrote: > So far it's a good new year and I got a wicked new axe for > Christmas - a Husqvarna 365 chain saw with a 24" bar. How is this > relevant to looping? Well... it IS a LOOP! And it's LOUD! 50+ > trees down in my woods from the wind. > > I'M STILL ON TOPIC... wood... winds... two stroke looper. L-O-L!!! > And, Per, it's from Sweden!!! Yep, they manufactured all kinds of quality mechanical devices. I had a moped made by Husqvarna. It nearly killed me, and others. Horrible machine. Looked like a tiny bicycle with an engine bolted to the frame as a bizarre add-on. It was more than twice as fast as the speed allowed by law. Only once did I try out its top speed, with a friend driving a car beside me to shout me the speed measured by his car's meter. I was afraid the moped should break into pieces underneath me when we reached the top speed. As soon as I realized it wouldn't go any faster I slowed down, terribly frightened - but wiser ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 23:28:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC7093BECF; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 00:28:07 +0100 (MET) From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000001c72dfc$82b3f9f0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acct2Noun+Fs7DyeRpqCUjBkof5IuwAIz2Tg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Per, you wrote: > Interesting. Was he really talking about the general body of > the instrument? Maybe he meant the specific matter that > creates the sound in the first place? Which are the players > lips in brass instrument and traditionally a slice of bamboo > wood for reed instruments like saxophone. Of course the He was referring to the instrument body's effect on the sound. For some reason which I do not remember completely, the instrument's body has a greater effect on the sound for woodwinds than for brass. But even for woodwinds, the effect of the reed (and to a lesser extent, of the mouthpiece) is greater. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 23:47:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26FA73BECA; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.135] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com From: "samba -" Subject: cheap cd publishing no min. 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Processed in 0.135621 secs) Message-ID: <006601c72e09$fd1d55d0$6501a8c0@SEANDELL> Reply-To: "Sean Mormelo" From: "Sean Mormelo" To: References: Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:04:43 -0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:04:41 +0000 (UTC) I have used it for several clients projects so far. The best deal going so for. The printing on Disk looks very good. Their online publishing tool is a bit squirelly because you can only visually line up your graphics and there are no templates. I used the Diskmakers templates and had to make some text adjustments to the J-Cards to get everything to look right. but overall, the most bang for your buck if you're looking for shrinkwrapped ready to sell short runs. Sean Mormelo www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo ----- Original Message ----- From: "samba -" To: Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: cheap cd publishing no min. > http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=ks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered > by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/1/2007 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 01:09:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A56C3BED0; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <880646.48607.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <880646.48607.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:09:26 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: KP3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:09:31 +0000 (UTC) At 10:42 PM -0800 12/30/06, mark sottilaro wrote: >Judging by your description I think Korg did it's >customers a service by creating something that's >different not just a kp2 with some new features. >Perhaps they'll continue to sell both? Yeah, I think of the whole KP series more like complementary units. Unfortunately, our first tendency is to consider every new release as a replacement for all its predecessors. Most new products are for some reason judged as inferior if they don't encapsulate every function of every previous version. Mebbe we've just been spoiled by bloatware, I dunno. I've been thinking more and more about the quantization issue, though, and I think it gets back to Korg hitting a "wall" of sorts. While the KP architecture lends itself very well to continuous theremin-like control, there are some effects that are just about physically impossible to control easily in any sort of musical manner with that as standard. Dividing the pad into discrete steps allows them to incorporate those effects into the KP. The new lighting system allows flexible visual feedback so you know where the steps are. And, as I mentioned before, they didn't quantize everything. Some effects still behave just as they did on the previous two incarnations. > > VST's like NI's FastFX or Bram's (SmartElectronix) >> SupaTrigga. > >I don't know SupaTrigga, but I've lost many a night to >playing with NI's FastFX. NI seems to not really >market it's Electronic Instrument collection, but for >the money they're a really, really interesting set of >effects and instruments. Yeah, I've found FastFX in particular to be a sleeper in that bunch; Cyan too, for that matter. I'd picked up a pirated copy of EI2xt in Bangkok last year, primarily for Metaphysical. It wasn't until I splurged on a legal copy a few weeks ago that I really started playing around with the other ensembles. (Aside: yeah, I'll use pirated warez, but I generally go on to pay for the software I use on a regular basis.) FastFX has proven to be far more useful than I ever thought it would. Unfortunately, NI has now completely discontinued Electronic Instruments 2, and I doubt they'll ever release a Universal Binary for it. As for SupaTrigga, I think you'd really dig that one, based on some of your other comments. Also, while on the Smartelectronix site, check out MDSP's LiveCut, which is similar. Either is like having a realtime version of Stylus' Chaos function. Heckuva lot easier than importing a REX loop into RMX, though. Truthfully, I think I overuse LiveCut even. For example, you can hear an instance on pretty much every instrument I used for my 30-second LD anniversary cut -- noise loop, drums, texture synth, etc... >thanks for the review Mech! No problem, although I hesitate to post a "real" review, simply 'cause I've owned the KP1 for years, but I gave the KP2 a pass. Knowing my luck, I'll start raving about some new feature, only to later realize that it was actually introduced in the KP2. :P Let me know if you have any particular questions though, and thanks for the kudos! --m. -- _______ "The future: everyone is housed, clothed, and fed, because everyone is in jail." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 02:46:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F2BB3BECA; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 02:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <09ec01c72e18$35074470$51b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <75a3c13e88150c361762105b21776375@glasswing.com> Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:46:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_09E9_01C72DDD.8770D6D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 02:46:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_09E9_01C72DDD.8770D6D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, shrink = warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this for a = short run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass mastered CDs = through another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD. For a thousand = it would have been less than $2.00.=20 I used DiskFactory for my last four CDs and their quality is = outstanding. Going with a similar package, and ordering 100 items, = DiskFactory would cost $2.70 a CD...and that doesn't even include the = UPC code, which I buy from CD Baby. I may go to this new company. Thanks, Samba. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sales=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. The price isn't so great but no minimum order. That's really amazing! There is some mystery about 'publishing' that I don't understand. Did = you read that part? What does it mean? I guess you'd have to go through = the process to see the deal involved.=20 VERY interesting. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 1-Jan-07, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote: http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=3Dks _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio = powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=3DT002MSN03A07001 ------=_NextPart_000_09E9_01C72DDD.8770D6D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD = for the=20 color printing, shrink warpping, UPC code, etc?  I haven't = seen a=20 price lower than this for a short run outfit.  Even when I did a = large run=20 of 500 glass mastered CDs through another company, the cost was = still $2.40=20 a CD. For a thousand it would have been less than $2.00.
 
I used DiskFactory for my last four CDs = and their=20 quality is outstanding. Going with a similar package, and ordering 100 = items,=20 DiskFactory would cost $2.70 a CD...and that doesn't even include the = UPC code,=20 which I buy from CD Baby.
 
I may go to this new company. Thanks,=20 Samba.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard=20 Sales
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 = 5:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: cheap cd = publishing no=20 min.

The price isn't so great but no minimum order. That's = really=20 amazing!

There is some mystery about 'publishing' that I don't=20 understand. Did you read that part? What does it mean? I guess you'd = have to=20 go through the process to see the deal involved.

VERY=20 interesting.

richard = sales
glassWing farm and=20 studio
vancouver island, = b.c.
800.545.6846
250.752.4816
www.glassWing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayle= ysales.com
www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
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------=_NextPart_000_09E9_01C72DDD.8770D6D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 03:08:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A95CE3BECD; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 03:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-421513202 Message-Id: <7BFB3CF0-2DA2-4745-A5D9-D4B7AE9F36E2@finleysound.com> From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:07:54 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: finleysound@fastermac.net X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 32, First 32, in=1, out=0, spam=0 ip=66.248.87.45 X-Originating-IP: 66.248.87.45 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 03:08:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-421513202 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed That does look like a good deal. Have you used them before, Samba? I'm always a little leery of trying an untrusted company. Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 1, 2007, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote: > http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=ks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio > powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 > > --Apple-Mail-1-421513202 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 That does look like a good = deal.=A0 Have you used them before, Samba?=A0 I'm always a little=A0leery = of trying an untrusted company.

Matt

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On Jan 1, 2007, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote:


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= --Apple-Mail-1-421513202-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 06:12:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 218CA3BECF; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PFzWek4q5CJ42pklzB5xd1vQk+ReliQom3cyPK7eheKtoKRt0rr8W9qFAzQY1sPoBc3aO8vlwk8CKAsUwncHQ8D6itcU06qULKNxXxas52tBNsVHEiDmC27PLIYjLDFuJOG9yTaqxi0UVYyaPC6Liz1Ff5DKgSeQnco0SV1M7zg=; X-YMail-OSG: VNS5BcAVM1lfndKmS3Y5tvC3cPccx9QRDCSmhVPni3SDvCxPr0RocL1mQSRvWqMkgG2T3T2XJfi.hsvfa3t5BpLRKZh.SIxzC5Ha6Q2P2BPWuYQlK90eVANh0tJN3cx3xpHvh2ppbamYGfQ- Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:12:03 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: OT: converting midi aftertouch to pitchbend (In Live) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000001c72dfc$82b3f9f0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <340563.84545.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Hey, Today I was trying to get aftertouch to control the pitchbend of a sitar patch in MOTU's Ethno Instrument and I realize that it only recognizes aftertouch for modulation. Setting it to a really deep yet slow fq kind of gives me what I want, but I'd love to be able to do a reassign in real time. Digital Performer has a MIDI plug in that does it, but Live doesn't seem to. Is there an aftermarket simple vst that can help me? M __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 07:28:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6140E3BECD; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 07:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.95] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <42815E9A-4320-4DAD-A1A9-3AB8FB5F678E@tuninghawaii.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: ot: old horns metal acoustics Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:28:51 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2007 07:28:55.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8DB2520:01C72E3F] Resent-Message-ID: <493qt.A.34E.6mgmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 07:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Following are comments on the discussion of woodwinds changing over time,from my friend Steven Rosenthal,who is an instrument builder/inventor,and piano tuner.He also makes giant musical sculptures,plays insane oboe,and was a member w/ Darell DeVore ,of the original Future Primitive ensemble. "Looks like the familiar tendency to get caught up in minutia and a lack of precise definitions. One being whether "aging" refers to metallurgical flaws (Ostwald ripening), or a global change in the material (Jake Ruby fermentation?). I doubt the composition of the brass is going to change, but if the instrument is not well made the lack of uniformity, in wall stiffness for example, could lead to stability problems. In general errors tend to accumulate in instrument construction and their effects thus become compounded, and interrelated, so it can be hard to diagnose symptoms. All things being equal (make and model), reeds, mouthpieces, the players' disposition, etc. have much larger effects on the characteristics of an instrument. The extreme instruments made by Herr Eppelsheim are bound to be fraught with problems owing to the large amount of of surface area in the low instruments and the super high tolerances required for a piccolo sax. He certainly to want to have as many constants as possible such as uniform materials, even still he must be constantly flirting with the impossible to make good musical instrument. He must be a saint or a lunatic if not both." _________________________________________________________________ Experience the magic of the holidays. Talk to Santa on Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0080000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/santabot/default.aspx?locale=en-us From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 09:15:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B51E83BEC7; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: sean@seanmormelo.com via t7.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(75.80.45.68):. Processed in 0.085887 secs) Message-ID: <009e01c72e4e$8989ba60$6501a8c0@SEANDELL> Reply-To: "Sean Mormelo" From: "Sean Mormelo" To: References: <7BFB3CF0-2DA2-4745-A5D9-D4B7AE9F36E2@finleysound.com> Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 00:15:24 -0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009B_01C72E03.192F7A70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:15:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C72E03.192F7A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mathew, I've used them for 3 projects so far...Fast turn around and the = product looks good. If your graphics and layout are good, you'll have a = good looking product. Sean Mormelo www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matthew F. McCabe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. That does look like a good deal. Have you used them before, Samba? = I'm always a little leery of trying an untrusted company. Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 1, 2007, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote: http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=3Dks _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio = powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=3DT002MSN03A07001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Mathew, I've used them for 3 projects = so far...Fast=20 turn around and the product looks good. If your graphics and layout are = good,=20 you'll have a good looking product.
 
Sean Mormelo
www.seanmormelo.com
www.myspace.com/seanmormelo
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Subject: Re: cheap cd = publishing no=20 min.

That does look like a good deal.  Have you used = them=20 before, Samba?  I'm always a little leery of trying an = untrusted=20 company.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 15:49:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A634F3BECD; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <0118dbc9b1f769191f55a150a7681f61@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-467216627 From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: kunaki CD publishing Fwd: mac question Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:49:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2007-01-02_06:2006-12-29,2006-12-29,2007-01-02 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0612050001 definitions=main-0701020012 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:49:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-467216627 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed response to my question concerning Mac computers: Begin forwarded message: > From: Kunaki - Customer Service > Date: January 2, 2007 4:16:47 AM MST > To: Paul Mimlitsch > Subject: Re: mac question > Reply-To: customerservice@kunaki.com > > Dear Paul, > > You can design your artwork with the Mac. All the dimensions are in > http://Kunaki.com/scripts/help.htm. > > Then, you will have to borrow a PC for a few hours. Download our > software (click > the 'New Customer' tab in http://Kunaki.com) and follow the simple > steps. > > > > On Mon Jan 1 21:26 , Paul Mimlitsch sent: > >> From the frequently asked questions page you write "... you can use >> your favorite Mac or PC software to design disc, case, insert graphic >> files..." . After doing this how is the upload/ submittal process >> handled? Thanks. - Paul >> > > --Apple-Mail-1-467216627 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII response to my question concerning Mac computers: Begin forwarded message: 0000,0000,0000From: Kunaki - Customer Service < 0000,0000,0000Date: January 2, 2007 4:16:47 AM MST 0000,0000,0000To: Paul Mimlitsch < 0000,0000,0000Subject: Re: mac question 0000,0000,0000Reply-To: customerservice@kunaki.com Dear Paul, You can design your artwork with the Mac. All the dimensions are in http://Kunaki.com/scripts/help.htm. Then, you will have to borrow a PC for a few hours. Download our software (click the 'New Customer' tab in http://Kunaki.com) and follow the simple steps. On Mon Jan 1 21:26 , Paul Mimlitsch < sent: From the frequently asked questions page you write "... you can use your favorite Mac or PC software to design disc, case, insert graphic files..." . After doing this how is the upload/ submittal process handled? Thanks. - Paul --Apple-Mail-1-467216627-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 16:31:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1482C3BECF; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tAPicuxU6DibpU7TG91/bIb2httD28pA2OraJGZE/tdyVjxhx9Y/pi3sD7EjqlAUCvay1BqS4KwWWjI1RI2uPiuCR/VDmWyrKSzTAAB5MPrnxZPvK/pJTb5u/DdPpEzMipCjXSrhJ77X6V1WAKw35v/sO4L73xQHC0XRmW8ilnk= ; Message-ID: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: p5s7kPkVM1mrqSB8ytV8fNtRQo5gkv469cT259keNu_KtwG0puD9BbF79O9h9m0sDRsyTYYOUGmdUJ.gSzXaDr60MPx0lKAXzvavx5DQuHDiidcEJ6ZFv6dkZVsDw34PfZEUbhtExgrMt6s- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:31:55 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0118dbc9b1f769191f55a150a7681f61@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Hello List, I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to sound as good as if not better then my Presonus pre-amp (which has no tube). Now, i have heard it to be widely accepted that many prefer tubes because they create a warmer sound. So i read a bit to see if i could understand why? I think in my most basic primitive grasp of the concept "tube" that the benefits are due to tube circuitry whereby a small distortion spectrum results which causes added harmonics???????<--am i on track???? But, as read further i learned that the main benefit comes from DH-Set "SE" configurations and that the "PP (push-pull)" configurations do substantially less of this "warming effect"???? so, i am wondering then, do all current technology tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or are there only certain tubes that do this? how would i know technically (besides listening) if i have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs in my manual that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"? I am just trying to decode this mystery so i don't dogmatically accept audio theory without knowing why. Any and all input would be great! THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME! :-) Margaret Noble Audio Artist http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 16:36:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F37FC3BED0; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yjwrqSndLzW3mn94k/jTh5H6sDxg1Gu05gX5z36eN8koj2/wfBtlOglpPawP7xzFP54Mbw6C2ZnmE53EdslzYbr57ebb6QH1iJjE7EiEcjJKbfbcReFxETiQXpBPZJE0SCLI++6JJ4HGqSOmSDUPnv4NZ/6mAYWFNwmW2vZWUrI=; X-YMail-OSG: T9Ac2O4VM1mXwyWh7FSb4T7X932Pwuhr8DL23aJu60j0Ag9g30t2h4h0UchJhyH2KfCNKKB7VlI.13kTwzVSEuLIWoXF2U4_AAaH1K_x9kl7OoXxYcrgNJxWXw_7v.tJ7boYHWEFCul3vg-- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:36:18 -0800 (PST) From: SR Millis Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-331562158-1167755778=:23024" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <530253.23024.qm@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:36:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-331562158-1167755778=:23024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Margaret, Where did you get your tube pre-amp? Thanks, Scott margaret noble wrote: Hello List, I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to sound as good as if not better then my Presonus pre-amp (which has no tube). --0-331562158-1167755778=:23024 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi, Margaret,
 
Where did you get your tube pre-amp?
 
Thanks,
Scott


margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello List,

I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for
my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to
sound as good as if not better then my Presonus
pre-amp (which has no tube).
--0-331562158-1167755778=:23024-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 16:44:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77E403BEDE; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RRahgM0mWT/tWFTHU0p8uabz7XkVxOMniNn03yYvw+1gQ/1RcqFUq7CcTy6RmBuTvqFJJ2RO1RgkExTCIDTjXqYA0TJpnjEmfliC9nOHuRehivJHjO0u4lffYT0HJIsvjCdMOM4cKTO1RqCDgEylikVjWiE9g6EgfUUazrsMaio=; X-YMail-OSG: tijSXd4VM1mCSLWD4jf_SKW4F_YHcGxF1YiO_ZWL6UXQoX5y3uzeBoYTZWvJBF8gKyzkSc9b1RmAOcWQox1Wrlusp4RhwpVj9YOen76r3AhdBg89.h_xSWiCaOdY8bSOTjYTztorFWhT7Ts- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:44:04 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <530253.23024.qm@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <165242.24715.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:44:05 +0000 (UTC) i got it here: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ART-Tube-MP-Project-Series-Tube-MicrophoneInstrument-Preamp?sku=180643 --- SR Millis wrote: > Hi, Margaret, > > Where did you get your tube pre-amp? > > Thanks, > Scott > > > margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for > my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to > sound as good as if not better then my Presonus > pre-amp (which has no tube). > Margaret Noble Audio Artist http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 16:59:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63FB43BED0; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-471392292 Message-Id: <5eb43a042b522d7981ac2f54d2083762@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:59:13 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:59:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-471392292 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed There's a company called, I THINK, 3D Audio that sells a CD with all of=20= the different pre amps and mics recorded in a pristine environment so=20 you can HEAR the sound of each pre and mic. That way you can listen=20 and make your own discoveries & judgments. I don't think a bad tube=20 mic pre is better than a quality solid state (SS) pre. Millennia makes=20= some very nice no tube pre's. Lots of folks do. And if you have a=20 tube mic many folks say it's best to run it into a SS mic pre. That's=20= what I'm doing right now with my big tube mic and it sounds great. I have a little (relatively cheap - $600 USD) Chameleon mic pre that's=20= modeled after the old Neve and it is amazing. No tube. I have a=20 Summit mic pre with tube that's wonderful too. The Chameleon is more=20 transparent, clear. The Summit is fatter. Also have a Daking 4=20 channel no tube (modeled after the old Trident mic pre's) that's=20 somewhere in between! Just to confuse things... I haven't bought the 3D Audio CD but I've heard it's a mind blower=20 because some of the cheaper mic's and mic pre's sound as good as or=20 better than some of the very expensive ones. Might be worth investing=20= in if you're shopping for stuff. That way you're making a very=20 educated decision based on your ears. There's lots of opinions out=20 there but each is tailored to the individual's needs and tastes... or=20 what they're selling. Ah! Here's the link: http://www.3daudioinc.com/ richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 2-Jan-07, at 8:31 AM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for > my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to > sound as good as if not better then my Presonus > pre-amp (which has no tube). > > Now, i have heard it to be widely accepted that many > prefer tubes because they create a warmer sound. So i > read a bit to see if i could understand why? > > > I think in my most basic primitive grasp of the > concept "tube" that the benefits are due to tube > circuitry whereby a small distortion spectrum results > which causes added harmonics???????<--am i on > track???? > > But, as read further i learned that the main benefit > comes from DH-Set "SE" configurations and that the "PP > (push-pull)" configurations do substantially less of > this "warming effect"???? > > so, i am wondering then, do all current technology > tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or > are there only certain tubes that do this? > > how would i know technically (besides listening) if i > have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs in my manual > that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"? > > I am just trying to decode this mystery so i don't > dogmatically accept audio theory without knowing why. > Any and all input would be great! > > THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME! :-) > > > > Marg=12aret Noble > Audio Artist > http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > --Apple-Mail-2-471392292 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII There's a company called, I THINK, 3D Audio that sells a CD with all of the different pre amps and mics recorded in a pristine environment so you can HEAR the sound of each pre and mic. That way you can listen and make your own discoveries & judgments. I don't think a bad tube mic pre is better than a quality solid state (SS) pre. Millennia makes some very nice no tube pre's. Lots of folks do. And if you have a tube mic many folks say it's best to run it into a SS mic pre.=20 That's what I'm doing right now with my big tube mic and it sounds great.=20 I have a little (relatively cheap - $600 USD) Chameleon mic pre that's modeled after the old Neve and it is amazing. No tube. I have a Summit mic pre with tube that's wonderful too. The Chameleon is more transparent, clear. The Summit is fatter. Also have a Daking 4 channel no tube (modeled after the old Trident mic pre's) that's somewhere in between! Just to confuse things... I haven't bought the 3D Audio CD but I've heard it's a mind blower because some of the cheaper mic's and mic pre's sound as good as or better than some of the very expensive ones. Might be worth investing in if you're shopping for stuff. That way you're making a very educated decision based on your ears. There's lots of opinions out there but each is tailored to the individual's needs and tastes... or what they're selling. Ah! Here's the link: http://www.3daudioinc.com/ Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 2-Jan-07, at 8:31 AM, margaret noble wrote: Hello List, I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to sound as good as if not better then my Presonus pre-amp (which has no tube). Now, i have heard it to be widely accepted that many prefer tubes because they create a warmer sound. So i read a bit to see if i could understand why? I think in my most basic primitive grasp of the concept "tube" that the benefits are due to tube circuitry whereby a small distortion spectrum results which causes added harmonics???????<<--am i on track???? But, as read further i learned that the main benefit comes from DH-Set "SE" configurations and that the "PP (push-pull)" configurations do substantially less of this "warming effect"???? so, i am wondering then, do all current technology tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or are there only certain tubes that do this?=20 how would i know technically (besides listening) if i have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs in my manual that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"? I am just trying to decode this mystery so i don't dogmatically accept audio theory without knowing why. Any and all input would be great!=20 THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME! :-) Marg=12aret Noble Audio Artist=20 http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com=20 = --Apple-Mail-2-471392292-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 17:02:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74AB73BEDE; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 468725963 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:02:55 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B8D2@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. thread-index: Accuj9kGPlyXleF4RkysEBHaQ67Mng== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2007 17:02:56.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9212EA0:01C72E8F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:02:59 +0000 (UTC) I'm so tired of seeing this "warmer" expression trotted out lazily every = time someone is trying to market something with a bottle in it.=20 what exactly is it supposed to mean? is it to do with noise-floor, = frequency response, distortion, what? those of us that have had the lids off some of this kit will know that, = traditionally anyway, the glass gets warmer than it's silicon = equivalent. but that is irrelevant to the end-user. I've seen quite a few examples of equipment fitted with an = ecc83/12AU7/whatever, where the heater wasn't glowing bright enough for = the box's designers & so they fitted a yellow/orange LED underneath it = to fake the glow. a lot of these modern valve devices run with very low HT, either for = regulatory reasons (e.g. the EH stompboxes) or because the makers just = couldn't be bothered with the nuisance of having to generate 400V DC = accurately & reliably. sure, the valves last longer, but they are = working so far down their conductance curve that they're not doing any = real work (& so the output needs buffering/boosting with a 5532 or the = like) & of course, they're operating miles away from the only musically = useful part of their character..... which is- here's the only major sonic difference that matters in 99% of normal = everyday contexts: if, & only if, it's driven into non-linearity (& by this time we're in = fuzz-box territory, not super-clean mic pre-amplifier), the valve/tube = tends to produce slightly more by way of even harmonic distortion, while = the silicon or germanium tends to produce odd-order harmonic distortion. I say again, these are distortion products, & are not supposed to be = there anyway. some feel that the even harmonics are more musically useful; this = certainly seems to be the case in the context of (typically overdriven) = instrument amplification. there are other (sometimes very involved) arguments for & against the = continued use of thermionic valves in "high-end" audio equipment- mic = pres, compressors & the like. class-A operation is slightly more stable, = perhaps. phase distortion....... well. all I can suggest is that a blind listening test be performed before the = emperor leaves the tailor's shop. I play my bass through an orange OR120 because I like the way it sounds = when I turn it up loud. but I record it straight into a korg digital = multitrack with an sm57. your mileage, as always, will vary.=20 oh- & an all-tube circuit is more likely to carry on working when = exposed to a massive electromagnetic pulse, such as caused by a nuclear = explosion. this may or may not be a selling point. :-) duncan. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 18:18:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DD393BECF; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAKYwmkXUSnIwh2dsb2JhbACOCQEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070102175332.01a45f90@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:18:51 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. In-Reply-To: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <0118dbc9b1f769191f55a150a7681f61@mac.com> <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-F4120F Resent-Message-ID: <1Oq3m.A.TkG.LIqmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:18:51 +0000 (UTC) >But, as read further i learned that the main benefit >comes from DH-Set "SE" configurations and that the "PP >(push-pull)" configurations do substantially less of >this "warming effect"???? > >so, i am wondering then, do all current technology >tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or >are there only certain tubes that do this? > >how would i know technically (besides listening) if i >have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs in my manual >that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"? here's the techno babble:- SE= single ended PP= push pull Those are 2 different configurations for valve power amps. It's not a matter of tube type, but how they are connected. The PP configuration is only used for driving loud speakers. For pre-amping you'll be using a simple circuit which would (I guess) correspond to SE, tho' I don't know if the term is actually used for non-power amp applications. 12AX7A is a very common general purpose valve, used in cheap gear and very expensive gear. Probably your cheap pre-amp has a chip to do the actual "pre-amp" part of the process, then passes the signal through the valve to colour the sound. ( and this is an often used method, even for high end audio gear) Sometimes in this sort of gear, the valve is run at low voltage, which some claim doesn't give the same "valvey" sound, and this is likely to be the case if you don't see the valve actually glowing. (clever Behringer use LEDS to simulate the glow ) So:- Best way to tell is to do what you already did...just listen :-) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 18:25:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A776A3BEE0; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=SYSD8zsieTsJR2fP3we+4o6rKXUPyVLrSQcY8KndjqkS2dVm2Koee7kiYjjgVijTFoA1HfhEeJ8cPgVKUTJy6ebjGawCAkKxAJ0LnGJDXh/YCRVG5BPUdSE09qBVacATfOdTeafDZlrCMZ5/t931Uchg52LyKeLQVZy7ZAFdfbA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <5eb43a042b522d7981ac2f54d2083762@glasswing.com> References: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5eb43a042b522d7981ac2f54d2083762@glasswing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2817B681-BF98-453F-A10A-0FA10350E0D4@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:25:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:25:47 +0000 (UTC) On 2-Jan-07, at 8:31 AM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for > my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to > sound as good as if not better then my Presonus > pre-amp (which has no tube). > Now, i have heard it to be widely accepted that many > prefer tubes because they create a warmer sound. So i > read a bit to see if i could understand why? The Presonus is very good. I bought one many years ago, based on =20 recommendations from colleges and reviews. I still don't feel any =20 need to get something more modern, tubes or not. The Presonus sounds =20 so good in pair with my AKG C 414 B-TL2 (the only better set-up I've =20 tried was two borrowed Neuman U-69). I've used the Presonus at live =20 concerts as well, playing sax close mic through it. Speaking about recording I have ran into two particular situations =20 where a pre amp, as the Presonus, does not give me the best result. =20 The first is when sampling analog synthesizers (to build sample =20 instrument packages for sampler playback), where I found out that you =20= achieve a more true sound by plugging the analog synth output =20 directly into the recorder (computer audio interface). The other =20 situation is when recording electric guitar for the purpose of sound =20 design libraries that will ship to computer aided producers. These =20 people tend to use software (Guitar Amp Pro, NI's Guitar Rack etc =20 etc) to emulate amp and speaker cabinet, usually a real loudspeaker's =20= sonic character caught as impulse response and applied to the sound I =20= deliver. What I do then is to use a 50w tube amp top, Sovtek mig-60 =20 (12AX7A tubes, similar in sound the Marshall Plexi) but recording =20 directly from the line output instead of sticking a mic to the cab. =20 By this method I get the harmonic overtone distortion added by the =20 preamp tubes (making even clean sound more "musical") so the user of =20 the sample library can run this recording through the power amp and =20 speaker cabinet impulse response software of his own choice. This =20 little 12AX roundtrip does a lot to the sound. > how would i know technically (besides listening) if i > have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs in my manual > that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"? I don't dare even trying to answer that. I always listen and fell =20 fully confident with making my decision based on how different gear =20 sounds. But there are also other aspects on gear, besides how it =20 sounds. Even though I love the tube sound of my Sovtek I prefer to =20 use a little solid state combo, Gallien-Kr=FCger with two 10" speakers, =20= when I play electric guitar live, simply because its faster response =20 time. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 18:56:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DCE23BEDF; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=fSYwaZJGAnAv4tlnaPyNjY9fyybqdIK1sQlnOB45gyZgr8YQlaC7yXTh/fdBVx5n3Jz39cDn0XnHCmCsCx+g41RjYfSPCJpQ+GEgurTdGRKF88qJkR3Yq7WwyQQDYK79TF3TI1FWJk9lfp/3T5XZs5Kz35JzH5NadZLgVC9cM5k=; X-YMail-OSG: iE5lAl0VM1kkQeF8dKQhrNkY3j3Bbn9T55pObdcEH2j.E60a.jtSayA66PQUZl01l0RhIUO0HmD4edU5g87Thhgi5P5aZRRJge5feIbZJ7qBYw5d6iz9FkhhiXh7pdmYmu3v2SUf7HfV468- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:56:37 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B8D2@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <873528.26810.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:56:39 +0000 (UTC) --- "Goddard, Duncan" wrote: > I'm so tired of seeing this "warmer" expression > trotted out lazily every time someone is trying to > market something with a bottle in it. > what exactly is it supposed to mean? is it to do > with noise-floor, frequency response, distortion, > what? One part of it has to do with the way tubes respond to a load as opposed to the way a transistor does. (or doesn't I should say) A tube/load circuit creates a kind of filter. That warmth people often speak of is just high frequency attenuation. This is all grossly simplified, but that's the main deal. I do know that for some reason the tube stage in my Tonelab makes my guitar sound damn good. It's not in the preamp stage though, it's before a virtual load to mimic the above phenomena. Does it really help? I don't know but I like it more than the Line6 stuff. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 19:29:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CCB33BED8; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006601c72ea4$5de76af0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <873528.26810.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:29:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <7-NhLC.A.uGB.tKrmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:29:50 +0000 (UTC) I love this topic. It is interesting how lack of clarity in semantics can confuse the actual factors at stake (not pointing fingers by any means, as this is very common). For example, remember when some of us a while back were discussing the alleged fullness of Reaktor patches vs. MAX/MSP patches? I believe the final word was that you get what you program in MAX/MSP. If you want full...you program that with various objects (EQ, etc). In the case of the tube vs. S.S. debate, I find, again, that semantics gets in the way and obfuscates the issue and allows folks to argue about apples and oranges, because often times the terminology we use does not reflect the complexities and nuances of the "empirical perceptions" of amplifier output vs. SS output. What I mean is that terms like warm, harsh, etc...are technically inadequate to make comparisons. For example, when comparing an old vintage Fender tube amp and a solid state Roland JC-120, some might suggest that the tube amp is "warmer" than the Roland, or that the Roland has a harsh tone compared to the Fender (and I personally attach no value to these terms, suggesting that "warmer" is neither good nor bad, but different). But is this really the right way to frame the comparison? What do we mean by "warm"? If we are talking about audible difference in frequencies, notching of undesirable frequencies, boosting sweet spots, etc, then surely either amp can achieve this by tweaking EQ, whether graphic, parametric, etc. Some folks say solid state amps are harsh, perhaps meaning that there are some offensive mid and high frequencies. I haven't found a SS amp yet, that I couldn't make "not harsh" by turning the treble or presence down to 1 or 2...IF what we meann by harsh is analyzable down into sense data of frequencies. In reality, there are probably many, many "sense-data" terms that we should use to compare tones of amps, tubes, vs. ss, etc. I won't pretend to know what they all are, but it would be an interesting categorization project for someone. For instance, my personal experience with tube amps vs. SS is that neither is inherently warmer or brighter than the other, but that there are some factors that I can't describe with a simple frequency notch or boost. What are they? I'm not certain. There is this "sponginess" that I feel in a tube amp....that's not a technical term, I know, but it has to do with playing a note, and the tone of the output changing, nano-second by nano-second from the instant I pluck the string to when the tone ends. It's like the attack is different, and the tone and timbres change dynamically...like a sponge, when you squeeze it...you do not compress it instantly with one squeeze, rather it compresses slowly. Whereas with my solid state amps, the tonal output is much more consistent and uniform, and some folks might call this "sterile", though that seems a bit evaluative. The attack is quick and the tone does not evolve as much, nano-second after nano-second, or ms. I think I'm getting more descriptive here than just saying that the tube amp is "warmer". This is just an experiment of thought. I invite others to help develop a more granular semantics to compare tube and SS. It think it is fascinating. I'm guessing some engineers have done extensive spectral and frequency analyses of tube amps vs. ss amps? I assume that when engineers developed DSP technology, they did some analyses like this and tried to simulate the evolving and dynamic tone of a tube amp. Now, having played many tube amps in my past, these new DSP SS amps, like the Fender FM65 I just bought, have an uncanny ability to simulate the feel I mentioned above. It's not exact, but very close. It's so close that I have had guitarists come up to me and complicate my tone, thinking it was tube....because they heard that subtle change in tone, when I picked harder, or when let notes extend...they heard that subtle and dynamic evolution of the tone. It wasn't EQ they were noticing but something much more complex. Heck, I can take any tube amp, turn the low end to 0, and the MID and High to 10, and make it sound horrendous. It's not about the EQ, but the subtle and dynamic evolution of tone in very short periods of time. Afterall, we are not talking about flaky metaphysics here...whatever it is that one person thinks sounds better in a tube amp than a SS amp, MUST (in my opinion) be expressible in empirical language. I don't personally believe there is anything else at stake, but empirical data that we can percieve or measure in the output of an amp. Then the mysterious are resolved, and we can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a SS amp that will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. > --- "Goddard, Duncan" > wrote: > >> I'm so tired of seeing this "warmer" expression >> trotted out lazily every time someone is trying to >> market something with a bottle in it. >> what exactly is it supposed to mean? is it to do >> with noise-floor, frequency response, distortion, >> what? > > One part of it has to do with the way tubes respond to > a load as opposed to the way a transistor does. (or > doesn't I should say) A tube/load circuit creates a > kind of filter. That warmth people often speak of is > just high frequency attenuation. This is all grossly > simplified, but that's the main deal. I do know that > for some reason the tube stage in my Tonelab makes my > guitar sound damn good. It's not in the preamp stage > though, it's before a virtual load to mimic the above > phenomena. Does it really help? I don't know but I > like it more than the Line6 stuff. > > Mark > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 19:37:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F0B93BEDE; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=S5dP/tcppCPA00wwEdf02lYMkl9VKb/0+L9LJbnfNM91E6/gYY6kH8J0HhqDNjQT; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <27787804.1167766654887.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:37:33 -0500 (EST) From: "donh@mindspring.com" Reply-To: "donh@mindspring.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e8b29b9ad2abf3e4f402879cecb40bd50b517a980debcd8296ace1652233b9a42c53bafa0c3e33ca350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a SS amp that >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 19:40:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC2E33BEE4; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: mmccabe@finleysound.com via o13.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.05307 secs) Message-ID: <1927.134.186.144.178.1167766830.squirrel@www.finleysound.com> In-Reply-To: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 11:40:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. From: mmccabe@finleysound.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:40:28 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, January 2, 2007 8:31 am, margaret noble wrote: > Now, i have heard it to be widely accepted that many > prefer tubes because they create a warmer sound. So i > read a bit to see if i could understand why? Margaret, A lot of the "warmth" people associate with gear, vintage in particular, is actually due to the transformers used in the designs. > I think in my most basic primitive grasp of the > concept "tube" that the benefits are due to tube > circuitry whereby a small distortion spectrum results > which causes added harmonics???????<--am i on > track???? > so, i am wondering then, do all current technology > tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or > are there only certain tubes that do this? No, not necessarily. A lot of the "classic" vintage gear that people associate with being "warm" is solid state. It's always best to use your ears and disregard the marketing hype. I've tried my share of guitar signal processors that were touted as being "warm" because they had a tube in the preamp section. Compared to a real tube preamp, they all sounded extremely thin and, dare I say, brittle! Matt --- King Never www.kingnever.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 19:43:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96BA23BEE7; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3788914.1167767003364.JavaMail.root@web15> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 11:43:23 -0800 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Line 6 Amps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Since a lot of the pre-amp thread was about digital vs tube amps, what are folks opinions of Line 6 amp products? I was toying with picking up a Spider III 2x10 amp due to an issue that caused me to lose my Fender Cyber Twin amp (and lack of cash). Are these amps reasoble amps for home recording use? -- Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 19:44:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDEE73BED0; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <014301c72ea6$6e665ec0$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: References: <75a3c13e88150c361762105b21776375@glasswing.com> Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:44:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0140_01C72EAE.CFF18E50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:44:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0140_01C72EAE.CFF18E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This looks VERY interesting... I have boxes and boxes of unsold CD's = (CR-R's actually) sue to minimum order problems... dont need big = quantities!!! Boo Hoo!!!! However, anyone know of comparable place WITHOUT cover printing (still = want CD print) cos I have a FREE contact for cover printing and I dont = like Jewel boxes... My next CD cover is to be a super duper foldout bit = of crazieness, ala old Hawkwind albums ha ha ha!! mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for = www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sales=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:13 AM Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. The price isn't so great but no minimum order. That's really amazing! There is some mystery about 'publishing' that I don't understand. Did = you read that part? What does it mean? I guess you'd have to go through = the process to see the deal involved.=20 VERY interesting. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 1-Jan-07, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote: http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=3Dks _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio = powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=3DT002MSN03A07001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5540 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ------=_NextPart_000_0140_01C72EAE.CFF18E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This looks VERY interesting... I have = boxes and=20 boxes of unsold CD's (CR-R's actually) sue to minimum order problems... = dont=20 need big quantities!!! Boo Hoo!!!!
However, anyone know of comparable = place WITHOUT=20 cover printing (still want CD print) cos I have a FREE contact for cover = printing and I dont like Jewel boxes... My next CD cover is to be a = super duper=20 foldout bit of crazieness, ala old Hawkwind albums ha ha=20 ha!!

mark francombe
marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he = writes for www.furthernoise.org and works = at www.transformlearning.com
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The price isn't so great but no minimum order. That's = really=20 amazing!

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VERY=20 interesting.

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------=_NextPart_000_0140_01C72EAE.CFF18E50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 20:01:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3A163BEE1; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=MAOSm/vzoTHC+5mqUuotoWcSX77zDziGDBw7HE13FyKjl7jVycMV8Jpt11RVyuolFf/pvtPggZazNxKCGK2GrrWovy/aYHVDcCkXTy4gUNV650Xd4emEvaCue6ompS07euKfzJaDkQPR3XKbZmKVvNl/rhQY2zLckq/tIbzyHy8= Message-ID: <26ba8d120701021201p60c2ddf7s28e56e181ad8d921@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:01:53 -0500 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. In-Reply-To: <014301c72ea6$6e665ec0$5a01a8c0@mark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <75a3c13e88150c361762105b21776375@glasswing.com> <014301c72ea6$6e665ec0$5a01a8c0@mark> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9fb760dc6f77b758 Resent-Message-ID: <4UfIH.A.rtC.zormFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:01:55 +0000 (UTC) On 1/2/07, markfrancombe.com wrote: > > > This looks VERY interesting... I have boxes and boxes of unsold CD's (CR-R's > actually) sue to minimum order problems... dont need big quantities!!! Boo > Hoo!!!! > However, anyone know of comparable place WITHOUT cover printing (still want > CD print) cos I have a FREE contact for cover printing and I dont like Jewel > boxes... I'd love the same thing as I hate jewel boxes myself. I'm thinking of getting one of these: http://www.tapeandmedia.com/detail.asp?product_id=BVO63101&source=Froogle&REFERER=Froogle I anticipate the price coming down a bit as the unit is quite new and the price difference between that item and their next in line is quite small. However, the price is a little steep -- I'd need to make sure that I got at least 1000 discs out of it and I don't really have that much volume. > My next CD cover is to be a super duper foldout bit of crazieness, > ala old Hawkwind albums ha ha ha!! I'd buy that! I remember I went to see Hawkwind many years ago at the late lamented Wetlands in New York and a young African-American kid had brought with in (in a protective cover of course) an original copy of Space Ritual - that album had been floating around in my youth and I hadn't realized how much it meant to people! > > > mark francombe > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.org > and works at www.transformlearning.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Sales > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:13 AM > Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. > > The price isn't so great but no minimum order. That's really amazing! > > There is some mystery about 'publishing' that I don't understand. Did you > read that part? What does it mean? I guess you'd have to go through the > process to see the deal involved. > > VERY interesting. > > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 1-Jan-07, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote: > > > http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=ks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered > by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 > > > ________________________________ > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 5540 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 20:13:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2EE13BEE7; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 393961399 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:13:08 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B8D3@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. thread-index: AccuqmtkNZesklLLQ0uE+bEhW9OtrA== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2007 20:13:08.0815 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B9D7DF0:01C72EAA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:13:10 +0000 (UTC) >>A tube/load circuit creates a kind of filter. That warmth people = often speak of is just high frequency attenuation.<< agreed, but only if the designer has intended this effect..... which is = probably where the market-speak "warmth" really comes from- a slightly = wooly sounding top-end, especially when compared with a modern = recording.=20 but I have a couple of valve tape-decks that meet or exceed the = frequency response of their nearest "solid-state" peers. see, for the last twenty-odd years, producers & engineers have been = putting more & more top-end onto recordings, safe in the knowledge that = it will actually reach the ears of the end-user via digital media. this = sort of delivery couldn't be guaranteed with analogue tape or vinyl. (& = before all the howls of protest start, I said it couldn't be guaranteed, = not that it was impossible! I have witnessed the work of studer & = shibata.) so we've all got used to much higher energy levels in that part of the = spectrum. now the marketing guys have created an artificial association between = the use of vacuum tubes & some mythical era in which there was a bit = less top-end listener-fatigue, & songwriting was generally of a higher = quality, life was simpler, gas was cheaper, tv shows were better, beer = didn't have chemicals in it...... warm =3D good, cold =3D bad. (beer excepted) analogue =3D warm. digital =3D cold. & so ironically we have arrived at a situation where on the one hand we = complain that 44.1kHz is nowhere near fast enough of a sampling rate to = preserve all the detail of real-life sounds, while on the other we're = using valve circuits that have been deliberately badly designed so as to = soften the transients & high-frequencies we were so anxious to save. so if you want your songs to last forever, like one presumes = lennon/mccartney or brian wilson's will do, you have to use OLD = EQUIPMENT. or at least, equipment made the old way, with glass in it. = this is why we had to endure "the white stripes", this kind of = marketing.... 2nd hand cred.... & you can buy a plug-in to simulate tape-saturation! what's that all = about? no! buy a real revox! I'm ranting, aren't I? :-) ok.=20 back to the science.=20 running a valve at a low voltage won't make it glow less; the glow comes = from the heater & the cathode, to a lesser degree.=20 running a valve at a very high voltage will occasionally produce an = additional blue glow, especially if the cathode's almost stripped. the = LED installed by EH, behringer & korg (amongst others) is there because = the real glow wasn't bright enough to satisfy their designers, probably = because modern tubes have a little more suspension material in them, & = it hides the "interesting" bits. d. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 20:29:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF1CA3BEF7; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.244] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070102163621.8C2C43BEDE@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: kunaki Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:29:15 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2007 20:29:16.0462 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC60B4E0:01C72EAC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:29:18 +0000 (UTC) I haven't used them,but am encouraged to read other's good reports. _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 20:31:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29D043BEFB; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007701c72eac$f2572b00$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <27787804.1167766654887.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:31:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, ain't that the truth! The suggestive powers of the brain are amazing...miraculously new empirical properties pop out of nowhere when you bring in moods, preconceptions, etc. I love the human brain. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. > Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... > >> Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >>can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a SS amp >>that >>will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 20:32:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EC523BEFE; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008201c72ead$256c6870$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <3788914.1167767003364.JavaMail.root@web15> Subject: Re: Line 6 Amps Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:32:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:32:40 +0000 (UTC) What style? I'd consider the Fender FM65 DSP and Roland Cube 60 first. The Spider seemed to have more features appealing to hard rockers. K- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Richards" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: OT: Line 6 Amps > Since a lot of the pre-amp thread was about digital vs tube amps, what are > folks opinions of Line 6 amp products? I was toying with picking up a > Spider III 2x10 amp due to an issue that caused me to lose my Fender Cyber > Twin amp (and lack of cash). Are these amps reasoble amps for home > recording use? > > -- > Paul > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 20:43:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F3FE3BEEC; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=DhphpveDgXln4u7Pu17okUh0yOX7QAanuk08WQKJDhSee2yV492FpocigFpB58qS; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <13451170.1167770636379.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:43:56 -0500 (EST) From: "donh@mindspring.com" Reply-To: "donh@mindspring.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e8b29b9ad2abf3e4f402879cecb40bd50b517a980debcd822274a579ecfdcbf71914e170b4ae2a25350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Key point below. >now the marketing guys have created ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 20:53:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D8403BEF6; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: RE: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:53:30 +0100 Message-ID: <004401c72eb0$101127b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C72EB8.71D58FB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Accurv+zKJka1CnfTOqG0HcnS5pDVAAAOPgA In-Reply-To: <09ec01c72e18$35074470$51b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:53:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C72EB8.71D58FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, shrink warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this for a short run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass mastered CDs through another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD I doubt that they really do CDs - I think what they're doing is CDRs. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C72EB8.71D58FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> The price looks good to me. $1.60 = a CD for=20 the color printing, shrink warpping, UPC code, etc?  I haven't = seen a=20 price lower than this for a short run outfit.  Even when I did a = large run=20 of 500 glass mastered CDs through another company, the cost was = still $2.40=20 a CD 
 
 
I doubt that they really do CDs - I=20 think what they're doing is CDRs.
 
 
-Michael 
------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C72EB8.71D58FB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 21:06:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 632BB3BEF9; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.244] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070102194452.3A5FE3BEF3@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Tubes,sound perception etc. Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:06:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2007 21:06:23.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[DBB21A40:01C72EB1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:06:25 +0000 (UTC) What I hear in tubes I don't describe as warmth ,but color,the way overtones bloom and decay has a response curve that has more vivid color,and the nuances of the way they shift are pleasing.Contrast is a very strong elemnt in perception as well so the context in which a sound is heard makes a big difference.Natural skin hand drums are rich in tonal timbre-more,ie complex overtones ,compared with more modern industrially produced trap drums,with more uniform response.The latter I hear as having a more discrete envelope which can be easier to seat in a mix. I have a classic mesa boogie,early 70s mkII b+,and a polytone which is ss,and sounds very sweet and warm. I prefer clean tones,and this boogie is known for it's clean channel. Interestingly enough.At volumes way beyond where I want to play ,whe the tubes are really glowing it gets that singing saggy sustain,but I never play that loud.I've got an amp with distortion tones like rockers pay big bucks for that's a plastic chinese made toy a v-tech groovy tunes model 9612 from the thrift store,1.99( I beat Rick to this one) it's 4x6x.2.5 and it wails. Here's an interesting bit on how the brain responds to music.This guy was abigtime music producer that got a phd in psychoacoustics from stanford. _________________________________________________________________ Experience the magic of the holidays. Talk to Santa on Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0080000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/santabot/default.aspx?locale=en-us From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 21:09:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57BE03BEDC; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00b001c72eb2$555d1b10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <004401c72eb0$101127b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:09:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C72E77.A88D31C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:09:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C72E77.A88D31C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's the case for DiskFaktory as well. That's part of the reason why = the price is so reasonable. I don't mind it. I'm finished with glass = mastered CDs, and only my first looping CD was glass-mastered (I = obtained no benefit from the extra cost). I haven't found a person yet = who can't play my CD-Rs, and they look no different than the glass = mastered (silver bottomed, etc).=20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Peters=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: RE: cheap cd publishing no min. > The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, = shrink warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this = for a short run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass = mastered CDs through another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD=20 I doubt that they really do CDs - I think what they're doing is CDRs. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C72E77.A88D31C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's the case for DiskFaktory as = well. That's=20 part of the reason why the price is so reasonable. I don't mind it. I'm = finished=20 with glass mastered CDs, and only my first looping CD was glass-mastered = (I=20 obtained no benefit from the extra cost). I haven't found a person yet = who can't=20 play my CD-Rs, and they look no different than the glass mastered = (silver=20 bottomed, etc).
 
Kris
 
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> The price looks good to me. = $1.60 a CD=20 for the color printing, shrink warpping, UPC code, etc?  I = haven't=20 seen a price lower than this for a short run outfit.  Even when I = did a=20 large run of 500 glass mastered CDs through another company, the = cost was=20 still $2.40 a CD 
 
 
I doubt that they really do CDs - I=20 think what they're doing is CDRs.
 
 
-Michael 
------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C72E77.A88D31C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 21:36:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B11CA3BEF5; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:36:32 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Nandor Subject: Re: Free Stuff leading to Hell? (was: OT: Audio Quality (Was advice needed) Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:36:40 +0000 (UTC) At 19:20 +0100 2006.12.28, Per Boysen wrote: >I'm a big fan of the Creative Commons movement and I'm seriously >looking into giving away an entire album, newly recorded, at http:// >www.jamendo.com or some related player. I like the CC movement, but not the CC license itself, too much. For my own stuff anyway. Basically, I give away all my music for free, and at some point I may put out a CD with some benefits over the free stuff (probably better mixes, for example, and of course, higher quality renderings than 160 kbps MP3), and hope some people choose to buy it. If not, that's fine too, since this isn't how I make my money: I just want to get my music out there one way or another, and these days, even free music is hard to get heard, even if it's pretty good. Obviously, some people disagree, at least for their own music. That's fine by me. I can't remember the last time I "pirated" music: if I listen to it and it is not freely given to me, I buy it. But for my own music, the free route works fine. If I relied on this to eat, I'd probably think differently. A quick note about DRM: I think it fails because it restricts the user of the music too much. When I buy music, I want to use it as the law entails me to, and DRM restricts me far more than the law does (for example, I just bought, for my wife, an old Roger Whittaker Christmas album on iTunes Music Store, and she cannot listen to it on the bedroom squeezebox music player, as I can listen to all my MP3 and non-DRM AAC files, because the slimserver software can't read the DRM files). On a somewhat related off-topic note -- and no, this is not a thinly disguised plug for you to download my music! -- some of you may be interested in my own web site, for the technical/aesthetic aspects. I basically wrote an iTunes clone in JavaScript/CSS/HTML, complete with dynamically updating playlists, playing songs inline (with the help of the del.icio.us Flash-based MP3 player), and so on. http://pudge.net/tunes/ This web-based music player I wrote is not a software package you can download and install (though maybe someday it will be), but you can download the HTML and JS and CSS and image files and use them (unlike my songs, all the code I write *is* "open source" and available for anyone to use for any purpose). All you really need to do is take the JavaScript file and fill in the top data structures with your own song data. And now back slightly on-topic: I finally got to play with my first looper, the BOSS RC-2, last week. Still playing with it, but so far it's just been a great tool to practice, experiment, and write with. Merry Christmas, -- Chris Nandor tunes@pudge.net http://pudge.net/tunes/ Slashdot pudge@slashdot.org http://slashdot.org/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 22:31:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D525E3BECC; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010901c72ebd$b55658a0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <06e101c72cfa$7e3cabe0$51b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Y2K6 MP3s Update #10 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:31:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0106_01C72E83.08770600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:31:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C72E83.08770600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Below are the newest additions to the Y2K6 MP3 page: = http://www.y2k6loopfest.com/mp3.html=20 I just finished mastering the remaining Y2K6 files, and will be sending = them to their owners for review today. So, this week should wrap up this = mammoth Y2K6 recording project.....finally!!!! Wheewwww! =20 Bob Amstadt Part I - http://www.box.net/public/static/5nmgmrb6l9.mp3 Part II - http://www.box.net/public/static/ncyroeyfrt.mp3 Part III - http://www.box.net/public/static/0dtcomnr34.mp3 =20 Chris Cohn Part I - http://www.box.net/public/static/0jvxl03qd5.mp3 Part II - http://www.box.net/public/static/z2d8u5ij64.mp3 Darin Schaffer Part I - http://www.box.net/public/static/0mz626zj7f.mp3 Part II - http://www.box.net/public/static/38ghfoi02f.mp3 Kris *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung Performance Calendar: = http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C72E83.08770600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,

Below are the = newest=20 additions to the Y2K6 MP3 page: http://www.y2k6loopfest.com= /mp3.html=20
 
I just finished mastering the remaining = Y2K6 files,=20 and will be sending them to their owners for review today. So, this week = should=20 wrap up this mammoth Y2K6 recording project.....finally!!!! = Wheewwww! =20
 
Bob = Amstadt
Part I - http://www.box.net/public/static/5nmgmrb6l9.mp3
Part II - http://www.box.net/public/static/ncyroeyfrt.mp3
Part III - http://www.box.n= et/public/static/0dtcomnr34.mp3
 
Chris = Cohn
Part I - http://www.box.net/public/static/0jvxl03qd5.mp3
Part II - http://www.box.n= et/public/static/z2d8u5ij64.mp3
 
Darin = Schaffer
Part I - http://www.box.n= et/public/static/0mz626zj7f.mp3
Part II - http://www.box.n= et/public/static/38ghfoi02f.mp3
 
Kris


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info@kri= spenhartung.com=20 / 1.208.724.5603
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------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C72E83.08770600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 23:45:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17F4E3BED8; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 23:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701022345.l02Nj867034220@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:45:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AccumnjOoU2qyQdhTm+B4QjBPdWdUQAKo7Yg In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070102175332.01a45f90@tiscali.co.uk> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: <2r1FuC.A.blD.J6umFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 23:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Andy wrote; "Sometimes in this sort of gear, the valve is run at low voltage, which some claim doesn't give the same "valvey" sound, and this is likely to be the case if you don't see the valve actually glowing. (clever Behringer use LEDS to simulate the glow )" I'm one of those "some"... One of the reasons I like the sound and feel of my Duncan twin tube preamp is the fact that they opted to use a pair of subminiature tubes (smaller than 12ax7's) running at high voltage. I've owned tube overdrives before, chandler tube drivers and the like, but this thing is so much more dynamic to the touch and rich in overtones than the type of low voltage output design Andy is referring to. On the other hand, I've also had good luck with my Art pre-amp. I have an old two channel 2 space rack mount model and I suspect its running at low voltage. I have never changed the tubes in 10 years and that's a good indicator. But any decent preamp to me is a good thing to throw in front of a DAW if for no other reason than to give a bit of compression and softening to the signal, and a bit more sonic complexity before it gets 10101010101010101'd :>) Bill -----Original Message----- From: a k butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:19 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. >But, as read further i learned that the main benefit >comes from DH-Set "SE" configurations and that the "PP >(push-pull)" configurations do substantially less of >this "warming effect"???? > >so, i am wondering then, do all current technology >tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or >are there only certain tubes that do this? > >how would i know technically (besides listening) if i >have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs in my manual >that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"? here's the techno babble:- SE= single ended PP= push pull Those are 2 different configurations for valve power amps. It's not a matter of tube type, but how they are connected. The PP configuration is only used for driving loud speakers. For pre-amping you'll be using a simple circuit which would (I guess) correspond to SE, tho' I don't know if the term is actually used for non-power amp applications. 12AX7A is a very common general purpose valve, used in cheap gear and very expensive gear. Probably your cheap pre-amp has a chip to do the actual "pre-amp" part of the process, then passes the signal through the valve to colour the sound. ( and this is an often used method, even for high end audio gear) Sometimes in this sort of gear, the valve is run at low voltage, which some claim doesn't give the same "valvey" sound, and this is likely to be the case if you don't see the valve actually glowing. (clever Behringer use LEDS to simulate the glow ) So:- Best way to tell is to do what you already did...just listen :-) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 23:49:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF5043BEDB; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 23:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070102234903.57719.qmail@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=rqbdp1+9aSSYJYbaZDB/ROxp8GxwsicxPoTr5CCheVNkHCBEjzxhHoaPR0PVJ8dqc/hoyT374kX/LAhm2mKVUm+RmpnHSNHiqvVKVdUjr3yWQO+dgHgn1CAYuf43zR4nzYeYyUOtpJuIg3hPjxjqB3JVkXqXyEuU5iW7L3bWhj0=; X-YMail-OSG: htbOgbMVM1nRIuaSMFHr.nypYRSbZDYAD1fLvqcVOkU.1qfLwP2yePFc39tZ5fgiNxmDQuIIcKc2Hyd9.lEUqXEWiRoVhPV0c.Ng3Wn7KQKh75SFLYovTEtA4bR2FfBbyTO26mZtkfIXRw-- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:49:03 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: tubes To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 23:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, i have for years plugged straight into the board. Good clean sound. sometimes a tube screamer and other stomp boxes. then I built a paia stack-in-a-box. Nuff said. I use it LOTS, when i want power chord stuff. It has served me VERY well. Rig __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 23:59:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9A833BEE7; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 23:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.244] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070102223116.31DF83BED6@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: music of the hemispheres Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:59:56 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2007 23:59:57.0063 (UTC) FILETIME=[1AC35970:01C72ECA] Resent-Message-ID: <4P6D-.A.yHE._HvmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 23:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Somehow the link to the psychoacoustics article was missing here it is _________________________________________________________________ >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes has it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 00:18:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7F273BEE9; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <165242.24715.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <165242.24715.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-497751543 Message-Id: <522d0054751ff0833b54105cd7cbf5f3@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: TRUST YOUR EARS Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:18:32 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:18:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-497751543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Well... I bet you're thoroughly confused now, eh? I think the best bet =20= is to trust your ears. And equipment is like guitars etc... a good =20 player can make bad stuff sound good and a bad player can make good =20 stuff sound bad. Based on what I heard on your web site - you'll make =20= whatever sound good. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 2-Jan-07, at 8:44 AM, margaret noble wrote: > i got it here: > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ART-Tube-MP-Project-Series-=20 > Tube-MicrophoneInstrument-Preamp?sku=3D180643 > > > --- SR Millis wrote: > >> Hi, Margaret, >> >> Where did you get your tube pre-amp? >> >> Thanks, >> Scott >> >> >> margaret noble wrote: >> Hello List, >> >> I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for >> my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to >> sound as good as if not better then my Presonus >> pre-amp (which has no tube). >> > > > Marg=12aret Noble > Audio Artist > http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > --Apple-Mail-1-497751543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Well... I bet you're thoroughly confused now, eh? I think the best bet is to trust your ears. And equipment is like guitars etc... a good player can make bad stuff sound good and a bad player can make good stuff sound bad. Based on what I heard on your web site - you'll make whatever sound good. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 2-Jan-07, at 8:44 AM, margaret noble wrote: i got it here: = http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ART-Tube-MP-Project-Series-Tube-Mic= rophoneInstrument-Preamp?sku=3D180643 --- SR Millis < wrote: Hi, Margaret, Where did you get your tube pre-amp? Thanks, Scott margaret noble < wrote: Hello List, I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to sound as good as if not better then my Presonus pre-amp (which has no tube). Marg=12aret Noble Audio Artist=20 http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com=20 = --Apple-Mail-1-497751543-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 00:23:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E84EC3BEF1; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Dr3kikZGzhLe/HgJZCSjXOCsbbpO24DLTuM9b/LxeB7SPm5wQ47VdHYBjxhTCYHVYMtaeNVmzuIo+T1JzpjAZOLgOq4IMk1c/8BHtkWriXDKbyntRh+jHL6I08IhMviIeU57YkK3ndvrqXhnm/QdoR8UMufLHD0AP53iBYfduO4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <76AE743E-A423-4D6E-8068-387153866E67@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: music of the hemispheres Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:23:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:23:46 +0000 (UTC) On 3 jan 2007, at 00.59, samba - wrote: > Somehow the link to the psychoacoustics article was missing here it is > ex=1168405200&en=541fbeeb5caa7b76&ei=5070&emc=eta1> Thanks, samba. Very interesting but cut a bit short, wasn't it? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 00:37:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF7E03BEF8; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ogy7tmYu7IaFrNC5D5b0cUFQtOmCZhSHnicsivg3CLSGDY38upKEBNWr3CKdsrYU+2M1HWsxICB3fbn2NAchhzAA75SCBIgvS5motMXs08Dlhyze3uV/EmGhUpGm+q5qWi6FFOSGX+xwO0oHaQmL60QBcoBDpgv9cU/KrHcYd3s= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9F84E08C-4C8B-43E7-B8FB-003192E4AC6F@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: ot: old horns metal acoustics Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:37:32 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:37:38 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 1, 2007, at 11:28 PM, samba - wrote: > I doubt the composition of the brass is going to change, but if > the instrument is not well made the lack of uniformity, in wall > stiffness for example, could lead to stability problems. I seem to remember some reportage about 3 or 4 years ago about finding that treating metal instruments with super-cooling using liquid nitrogen improved the tone quality. Might have been an NPR story. I did a quick Google search and nothing jumped out at me on the first page. Maybe it turned out to be too expensive a process for results that were too small to justify? Might improve uniformity. regards BobC http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157594240725240 http://tinyurl.com/cr25j http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn--iF6a4Xo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 01:04:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B44DF3BEE8; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QiElDHVJz2j6MwsJTOPbXztL28D53Q1/3D79oNFwUqXtK52p8qXLapzeMtTHJmVgq0B2a24KjzDJDEBi0xC0qIwjYZV0n7DqMHmZmWyTowjUm7GTQKGv+IUToo1tWyIDJJMZS27YTsL+79HGm2aLlq8uNXHObDe0TVKs9rtrLio= Message-ID: <588ce11d0701021704v74530631y378c2ae7f5ab1420@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:04:43 -0800 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. In-Reply-To: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <0118dbc9b1f769191f55a150a7681f61@mac.com> <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:04:45 +0000 (UTC) I tried several of the cheap preamps: I had the Behringer MIC200, ART Tube MP Studio V3, M-Audio Audio Buddy and the Studio Projects VTB1 in the same room to compare, and like margaret I thought the ART sounded very good. I'm not sure what the tube had to do with it, but I think the subtle combination of gain and compression at the beginning of my effects chain really suited my guitar playing. If you like the ART you might like the Studio Projects VTB1 even better, at least I did. On 1/2/07, margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for > my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to > sound as good as if not better then my Presonus > pre-amp (which has no tube). > > Now, i have heard it to be widely accepted that many > prefer tubes because they create a warmer sound. So i > read a bit to see if i could understand why? > > > I think in my most basic primitive grasp of the > concept "tube" that the benefits are due to tube > circuitry whereby a small distortion spectrum results > which causes added harmonics???????<--am i on > track???? > > But, as read further i learned that the main benefit > comes from DH-Set "SE" configurations and that the "PP > (push-pull)" configurations do substantially less of > this "warming effect"???? > > so, i am wondering then, do all current technology > tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or > are there only certain tubes that do this? > > how would i know technically (besides listening) if i > have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs in my manual > that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"? > > I am just trying to decode this mystery so i don't > dogmatically accept audio theory without knowing why. > Any and all input would be great! > > THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME! :-) > > > > Marg=12aret Noble > Audio Artist > http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > --=20 Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 01:39:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAF4C3BEC5; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=tvvbWDCOf4bDFpLwUWF2NdwVFpuCtzbBTO2G7mL+ezyR9Xu+n5MBv9Kx4bpFwSNdbV+jeM7CbOiGeQXOBgHZllhi2CNyaM0MMxnrVCR3HNHfE8mVDfegd6OjRWqjnDAxLM0nlTJWj29cZRDnJUOeRqsFO3QsgFs4ZEJmREhftJI= Message-ID: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:39:14 -0600 From: "Dan Katayama" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_88776_5181600.1167788354394" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:39:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_88776_5181600.1167788354394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Correct me if I am wrong but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks? Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or change the octave?? Thanks in advance... -- kosukeweb http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_88776_5181600.1167788354394 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Correct me if I am wrong
but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's
when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks?

Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or change the octave??

Thanks in advance...

--
kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_88776_5181600.1167788354394-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 01:52:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9062F3BEDD; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Z4VLKu0biW/Yc5HClR8PY3mz/L+NKJ+oprq861Bhh+9nnUny6ykQ5AviklUFvCT4; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; From: "ejyuhas" To: Subject: 2007 Guitar Rig Reconfig Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:52:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C72EAF.E35213B0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Accu2cpW3pvVYVFjR1SFqhghc+yeEQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: 22b7a950aa3e6c4dd780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc510d2becd79c60a8f1f1efd6c70c36ed350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.68.163.114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:52:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C72EAF.E35213B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, fellow loopists. I've been pondering a revamped setup for some time now, but I am somewhat stuck. So I decided to ask for some opinions and input. I am currently feeding all my stompboxes, rackmounts, and looping devices into a Fender Reverb Deluxe. I also have a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and I'd like to utilize it to maximize the "surround" capability of some delay and reverb effects that I can dial in. I'd also like to use a number of volume pedals, and one of them to be the main volume control. I'm a bit confused as to how to route my cabling to get this configuration to work. I'd also consider using my mixer to post process my loops via "Send-Return". Current setup: Guitar>(main) vol pedal>multi-effect>compressor>distortion>Vortex>MPX-110>DL4>MPX-110> DL4>Chorus>vol pedal>DD-20>RC-20>vol pedal>amp My aim, musically is mostly ambient type stuff looped with distorted electric guitar soloing over it, sometimes clean with delay and lots of verb, etc. So, in a nutshell, here's my signal chain idea: 1. I'd like to split the loopers up, so that say the DL4 can go to one amp, and the DD-20/RC-20 can cover the other amp. 2. I can use my MPX-110 and Vortex to process one signal chain, then Send-Return on my mixer to post process using an Alesis Nanoverb, or some such reverb unit (which I intend to purchase soon) for long decays, etc. Any ideas on how to make this improvement work? And if anyone is using a laptop just to run loops, not live loop with it.where shall I place that in the signal chain? Shall I use my A-B box and just switch it into the chain when I really need it? I sometimes use Soundplant to run prerecorded loops. Well, I hope I didn't confuse anyone. I still consider myself a 'beginner' when it comes to the electronics part of the looping realm. Peace, loops and creativity to you all in 2007. Ed in NJ http://www.myspace/edward_yuhas PS If this gets to be too crazy for the Digest, you can email me privately. Thx. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C72EAF.E35213B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Greetings, fellow = loopists…

 

I’ve been pondering a revamped setup for some = time now, but I am somewhat stuck. So I decided to ask for some opinions and = input.

 

I am currently feeding all my stompboxes, rackmounts, = and looping devices into a Fender Reverb Deluxe. =

I also have a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and I’d = like to utilize it to maximize the “surround” capability of some = delay and reverb

effects that I can dial in. I’d also like to = use a number of volume pedals, and one of them to be the main volume = control.

 

I’m a bit confused as to how to route my = cabling to get this configuration to work. I’d also consider using my mixer = to post process

my loops via “Send-Return”. =

 

 

Current setup:

 

Guitar>(main) vol = pedal>multi-effect>compressor>distortion>Vortex>MPX-110>= ;DL4>MPX-110> DL4>Chorus>vol pedal>DD-20>RC-20>vol = pedal>amp

 

My aim, musically is mostly ambient type stuff looped = with distorted electric guitar soloing over it, sometimes clean with delay and lots of = verb, etc.

 

So, in a nutshell, here’s my signal chain = idea:

 

  1. I’d like to = split the loopers up, so that say the DL4 can go to one amp, and the = DD-20/RC-20 can cover the other amp.
  2. I can use my MPX-110 = and Vortex to process one signal chain, then Send-Return on my mixer to post = process using

an Alesis Nanoverb, or = some  such reverb unit (which I intend to purchase soon) for long decays, = etc.

 

Any ideas on how to make this improvement work? And = if anyone is using a laptop just to run loops, not live loop with = it…where shall I place that in the signal chain? Shall I use my A-B box and just = switch it into the chain when I really need it? I sometimes use Soundplant to = run prerecorded loops.

 

Well, I hope I didn’t confuse anyone. I still = consider myself a ‘beginner’ when it comes to the electronics part of = the looping realm.

 

 

Peace, loops and creativity to you all in = 2007…

 

Ed in NJ

http://www.myspace/edward_yuhas<= /a>

 

PS If this gets to be too crazy for the Digest, you = can email me privately. Thx.

 

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C72EAF.E35213B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 02:24:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2A3D3BEE9; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 02:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00d801c72ede$3cb39d10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "margaret noble" , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" References: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:24:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 02:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Dear Margaret, I'm no expert in the physics of sound but let me attempt to answer your question about tube distortion or noise and solid state/transistor distortion or noise from my relatively unsophisticated understanding of it. All recordings have noise. The reason we want to record something as 'hot' as possible without distortion is so that the difference between that intrinsic noise volume and the volume of your recorded instrument is as great as possible. The louder you can record something without distortion the greater the so-called "Signal to Noise Ratio". Since all recordings (and all reproducing systems and media) have a certain amount of noise, the amplification technology you use will affect that noise and the way it sounds to your ears. In a nutshell, tube amplifiers produce even harmonics. transistor (solid-state) amplifiers produce odd harmonics In the harmonic series, the fundamental frequency (the one we take as the pitch of a sound or the sound) is thought of as the first frequency (hence odd in number). If we take just the first harmonics in this natural series we get F H1 H2 H3 H4 H5...........etc. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Fund Octave Oct+5th next Octave next+3rd next Octave As you can see, the even harmonics are all octaves. Because of this, they are consonant, harmonically, with the origial Fundamental frequency and sound smoother and more 'harmonious' to our ears. Additionally, as the odd harmonics keep going up, they become increasingly disonant and out of tune. This cause a 'harsher' sound to our ears. Tube amplifiers do make for a smoother sounding noise floor. For lots of reasons, the noise produced by analogue tape machines and record players also seem 'smoother' or 'warmer' to the human ear. Nowadays, since almost everything you hear has to go through analoge to digital conversion and then back from digital to analogue when you hear it reproduced with an amplifier everything has digita conversion problems. Luckily, people have been clever and figured out how to do digital modellings of analogue sounds (tube distortion, record player noise, analogue tape noise (and intrinsic compression). You can even record something with a fairly cheap microphone..............put that recording through a digital model of an expensive microphone.................put it again, through a digital modelling of a tube amplifier (and I've been using Universal Audio's brilliant plug ins that simulate the most expensive and sought after tube amplifiers, compressors, limiters, etc to great effect).................and even add digital simulations of worn record skips and pops and fully convince someone that you found your track at a yard sale on an old 45 rpm single and sampled it. Luckily, those Art Tube preamps are incredible deals for the money. Hmmmmmm, do you buy a used Audio Technica 4033 mic ($250) with an Art tube preamp ($80) that has the identical mic capsule and the identical 12AX7A tube as the Audio Technica 4060 Tube mic ($1,360)? Lol, you be the judge. In the long run, however, I think that an audience cannot discern the difference between me putting my microphone through my Art Tube Preamp with it's intrinsic warm noise or through my incredibly transparent and transistor Mackie pre amplifiers on my mixing board. In a studio perhaps..................in headphones, definitely, but I think the music becomes more important than this fairly subtle difference. Analogue music aficianados would consider that last paragraph heresy, by the way so you'll get lots of different advice about it. The proof is in the pudding. Do YOU like how that Art sounds? That's all that matters because if you do, then now, it is YOUR sound, for better or for worse. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 02:37:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A40ED3BEF9; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 02:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <013201c72ee0$0b729880$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:37:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 02:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Duncan wrote: "you can buy a plug-in to simulate tape-saturation! what's that all about? no! buy a real revox!" I hear what you say, Duncan. However, quite frankly, in my musical world, I have to ask this question: "Should I run my recordings through a freeware plugin that uses digital acoustic modelling to simulate tape saturation that 95% of ALL audiences cannot distinguish from the sound of the reall thing (Revox)...... .......or should I use the money that I would have spent on a used Revox tape machine (and all it's attendant cabling and cabinetry and space to house it) on that French Horn that I"ve been lusting over?" Both answers to that question are valid artistically and I truly respect you if your answer is different from mine. In my own world, I just don't make enough money to do both. Consequently, I'll buy the French Horn when I can afford it. If people have the money to do both, then I say more power to you. with respect, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 03:13:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 759873BEE4; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 03:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GvQRpTAzVOOXmf4AMXebegNbVPCFgfeug3jvqWQOaYaJFVnHLpTohi9UpOjUkLCSLfglDZOc4xSBfiQWuzGzwiydd2lmsyJ2Zj0J16De6Tn+/yk0weq5wVIVLZhRKadGWFOFq1XPsbIoATM0pgdXQXJgx904KMWJ1VGRlaGqqMc= ; Message-ID: <20070103031305.14007.qmail@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:13:05 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-939401142-1167793985=:13695" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 03:13:08 +0000 (UTC) --0-939401142-1167793985=:13695 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this list kicks butt!! i always learn tons from it. thanks for everyone's 2= cents, really helpful!!! the quest for better sound continues, the science= is never ending but addictingly fun!!!!=0A =0AMargaret Noble=0AAudio Artis= t =0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message= ----=0AFrom: a k butler =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com=0ASent: Tuesday, January 2, 2007 12:18:51 PM=0ASubject: Re= : Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion.=0A=0A=0A>But, as re= ad further i learned that the main benefit=0A>comes from DH-Set "SE" config= urations and that the "PP=0A>(push-pull)" configurations do substantially l= ess of=0A>this "warming effect"????=0A>=0A>so, i am wondering then, do all = current technology=0A>tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or= =0A>are there only certain tubes that do this?=0A>=0A>how would i know tech= nically (besides listening) if i=0A>have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs = in my manual=0A>that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"?=0A=0A=0Ahere's= the techno babble:-=0A=0A=0ASE=3D single ended=0APP=3D push pull=0A=0AThos= e are 2 different configurations for valve power amps.=0AIt's not a matter = of tube type, but how they are connected.=0AThe PP configuration is only us= ed for driving loud speakers.=0A=0AFor pre-amping you'll be using a simple = circuit which would (I guess) =0Acorrespond to SE, tho' I don't know if the= term is actually used for =0Anon-power amp applications.=0A=0A12AX7A is a = very common general purpose valve, used in cheap gear and =0Avery expensive= gear.=0A=0AProbably your cheap pre-amp has a chip to do the actual "pre-am= p" =0Apart of the process, then passes the signal through the valve to =0Ac= olour the sound. ( and this is an often used method, even for high =0Aend a= udio gear)=0A=0ASometimes in this sort of gear, the valve is run at low vol= tage, =0Awhich some claim doesn't give the same "valvey" sound, and this is= =0Alikely to be the case if you don't see the valve actually glowing.=0A(c= lever Behringer use LEDS to simulate the glow )=0A=0ASo:-=0ABest way to tel= l is to do what you already did...just listen :-)=0A=0Aandy butler=0A=0A___= _______________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ATired of= spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around =0Ahttp://mail.yaho= o.com --0-939401142-1167793985=:13695 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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this list kicks butt!! i always learn to= ns from it. thanks for everyone's 2 cents, really helpful!!! the quest for = better sound continues, the science is never ending but addictingly fu= n!!!!
 
=0A= =0A=0A=0A
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=0A----- Original Message ----
From: a k butler <akbutler@tiscal= i.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, Ja= nuary 2, 2007 12:18:51 PM
Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise= and honest opinion.

=0A
>But, as read further i learned that= the main benefit
>comes from DH-Set "SE" configurations and that the= "PP
>(push-pull)" configurations do substantially less of
>thi= s "warming effect"????
>
>so, i am wondering then, do all curre= nt technology
>tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or>are there only certain tubes that do this?
>
>how would i = know technically (besides listening) if i
>have a SE tube or a PP tub= e from specs in my manual
>that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected= "?


here's the techno babble:-


SE=3D single ended
P= P=3D push pull

Those are 2 different configurations for valve power = amps.
It's not a matter of tube type, but how they are connected.
The= PP configuration is only used for driving loud speakers.

For pre-am= ping you'll be using a simple circuit which would (I guess)
correspond = to SE, tho' I don't know if the term is actually used for
non-power amp applications.

12AX7A is a very common ge= neral purpose valve, used in cheap gear and
very expensive gear.
Probably your cheap pre-amp has a chip to do the actual "pre-amp"
part= of the process, then passes the signal through the valve to
colour the= sound. ( and this is an often used method, even for high
end audio gea= r)

Sometimes in this sort of gear, the valve is run at low voltage, =
which some claim doesn't give the same "valvey" sound, and this is
= likely to be the case if you don't see the valve actually glowing.
(clev= er Behringer use LEDS to simulate the glow )

So:-
Best way to tel= l is to do what you already did...just listen :-)

andy butler
<= /DIV>

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http://mail.yahoo.com= --0-939401142-1167793985=:13695-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 03:47:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BD3C3BEF7; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 03:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:47:26 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1044326443==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112062733f375a6c25715d84dd9d3ba0404bc965d6d45243e2d1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 03:47:37 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1044326443==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape. The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not reverse, pitch or octave with the 4 normal tracks. >Correct me if I am wrong >but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's >when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks? > >Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or >change the octave?? > >Thanks in advance... > >-- >kosukeweb >http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-1044326443==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function

The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape.
The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not reverse, pitch or octave with the 4 normal tracks.




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------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01C72ECC.8E807DA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 05:26:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20B1D3BED8; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 05:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003201c72ef7$c07ebe40$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:26:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=1.0 tests=AWL,INFO_TLD autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 05:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Margaret Noble wrote: "this list kicks butt!! i always learn tons from it. thanks for everyone's 2 cents, really helpful!!! the quest for better sound continues, the science is never ending but addictingly fun!!!!" I agree, I love this list..........it's so creative and so helpful................an amazing resource or very knowledgeable and uber talented musicians. We're blessed to have it. Also, my wife and I are listening to your stuff on your myspace page right now. This track 'Nufon' is just mesmerizing.......................it's ethereal and a little ominous............just exquisite. I didn't know of you until your post so thanks for sharing. Please come perform at the Y2K7 International Live Looping Festival in third weed of October in Santa Cruz. I'll save you a 30 minute performance spot it you can afford to grace us with your presence. Yours, very impressed, Rick Walker www.looppool.info From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 06:55:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB91D3BED8; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 06:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=lnmPWBwCuDahMuU/KVriiVI1g4gec262nxGnuVMX7I1fN6M1ldquAiGgeTElzYNFaXrlviYCDXelsM9RqfJTksPFpva48usp6WOXNpDcO1fkv9UHbmjQoHo23SeDvL9MfdNPGScZShOOzeHKEdqrcZgMQDkqrSbxe5fTDSwyysc=; X-YMail-OSG: N_1M1TcVM1lcY3DHFrUcOH4K7JHJleKTnKU6sNea65p9wQCQc1efZuRVzLTO0QIaJcw8JfQXotYztHkraAEhYkKZsh6Ae_g1OfdCRtJ6z6e_wJzpq2MQxShNqSq2D8Bjy725yzuMu6Ltt2k- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:55:08 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: You can't have everyting (tube) where would you put it? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <013201c72ee0$0b729880$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <332872.75599.qm@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 06:55:10 +0000 (UTC) --- RICK WALKER wrote: > "Should I run my recordings through a freeware > plugin that uses digital > acoustic modelling > to simulate tape saturation that 95% of ALL > audiences cannot distinguish > from the sound of the reall thing (Revox)...... This has been the theme of my music gear world for a while, so it's near and dear to my heart. On one side of me, the "red pill" side, I want to live in the "real world." A world full of tape and tubes and messy stuff to fuck with. The other side of me enjoys living in a world where the real world is simulated. The good thing about it is, as Morphius says, "It is a system with rules. These rules can be bent... and some can be broken." Like the rule of space. If I wanted a real tube pre, I'd have to figure out where it would go in my world. Vintage warmer just takes up space on a hard drive. Not that this hard drive space is infinite, but it's far easier to increase than building an addition to a house. > .......or should I use the money that I would have > spent on a used > Revox tape machine (and all it's attendant cabling > and cabinetry and space > to house it) > on that French Horn that I"ve been lusting over?" Here in San Francisco, the space law is not bendable. There's a fixed amount of it and lots of people who want to live in it because it happens to be pretty damn cool place. I'd love to have a wall of vintage synths, rack gear and tube amps. That would mean working a lot more to fund the rent, or moving far away from the cool place. Moving far from the cool place often means less work for people like me, so there's that too. > Both answers to that question are valid > artistically and I truly respect > you if your answer is different from mine. I don't think it's artistically driven is it? It's a pure problem of space/money. Wouldn't we all love a house full of the best coolest gear, computer and otherwise? > If people have the money to do both, then I say more > power to you. We all find a place of equlibrium. I find I need a good community feeling in my 'hood so I give up the space I'd like. Also I have fallen madly in love with a woman who's got a big dog so that adds it's own limitations in terms of where you can live (especially in a city) I've chosen to give up large studio gear for smaller more nimble computer stuff. Does it sound as good? Probably not, but it got to the point where I didn't have much choise and I'm sure glad I can keep the massive amount of gear in a virtual world at least. I love toys! M __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 08:31:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8308D3BEE2; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 08:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <028001c72f11$9ff854f0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <332872.75599.qm@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: You can't have everyting (tube) where would you put it? Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:31:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 08:31:57 +0000 (UTC) I love the analogy, Mark. Except, just don't take it to the third movie, okay? :) I like being a brain in a vat. K- ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:55 PM Subject: You can't have everyting (tube) where would you put it? > --- RICK WALKER wrote: > >> "Should I run my recordings through a freeware >> plugin that uses digital >> acoustic modelling >> to simulate tape saturation that 95% of ALL >> audiences cannot distinguish >> from the sound of the reall thing (Revox)...... > > This has been the theme of my music gear world for a > while, so it's near and dear to my heart. On one side > of me, the "red pill" side, I want to live in the > "real world." A world full of tape and tubes and > messy stuff to fuck with. The other side of me enjoys > living in a world where the real world is simulated. > The good thing about it is, as Morphius says, "It is a > system with rules. These rules can be bent... and > some can be broken." > > Like the rule of space. If I wanted a real tube pre, > I'd have to figure out where it would go in my world. > Vintage warmer just takes up space on a hard drive. > Not that this hard drive space is infinite, but it's > far easier to increase than building an addition to a > house. > >> .......or should I use the money that I would have >> spent on a used >> Revox tape machine (and all it's attendant cabling >> and cabinetry and space >> to house it) >> on that French Horn that I"ve been lusting over?" > > Here in San Francisco, the space law is not bendable. > There's a fixed amount of it and lots of people who > want to live in it because it happens to be pretty > damn cool place. I'd love to have a wall of vintage > synths, rack gear and tube amps. That would mean > working a lot more to fund the rent, or moving far > away from the cool place. Moving far from the cool > place often means less work for people like me, so > there's that too. > >> Both answers to that question are valid >> artistically and I truly respect >> you if your answer is different from mine. > > I don't think it's artistically driven is it? It's a > pure problem of space/money. Wouldn't we all love a > house full of the best coolest gear, computer and > otherwise? > >> If people have the money to do both, then I say more >> power to you. > > We all find a place of equlibrium. I find I need a > good community feeling in my 'hood so I give up the > space I'd like. Also I have fallen madly in love with > a woman who's got a big dog so that adds it's own > limitations in terms of where you can live (especially > in a city) > > I've chosen to give up large studio gear for smaller > more nimble computer stuff. Does it sound as good? > Probably not, but it got to the point where I didn't > have much choise and I'm sure glad I can keep the > massive amount of gear in a virtual world at least. > > I love toys! > > M > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 11:48:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DE703BEDC; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAEYmm0XUSnIwh2dsb2JhbACOCgEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070103112227.01b034f8@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:48:11 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B8D3@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtv ne.ad.viacom.com> References: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B8D3@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4328D32 Resent-Message-ID: <2r1UTC.A.8v.7f5mFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Duncan says:- >ok. >back to the science. >running a valve at a low voltage won't make it glow less; unless there's less voltage across the heater filament (perhaps a trick to get more "valve sound" at lower anode/cathode voltages, ..but definitely good for making the valve last longer > the glow comes from the heater & the cathode, to a lesser degree. >running a valve at a very high voltage will occasionally produce an >additional blue glow, especially if the cathode's almost stripped. also caused by incorrect bias adjustment (correctable in some amps) > the LED installed by EH, behringer & korg (amongst others) is > there because the real glow wasn't bright enough to satisfy their > designers, probably because modern tubes have a little more > suspension material in them, & it hides the "interesting" bits. I don't see any glow at all from the valve in my Behringer pre. ...but I know it's connected, the first unit I got had the nice clear sound of a faulty valve. (otherwise, it's pretty much cosmetic) ...I loved the way they put a "warm up delay" on the LEDS for the "valve glow" andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 15:08:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D54593BED9; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=XRwlOP7veB3/jnbzuwNdryXVSf1Q4BI8a853PIROohsdS818DUsGmCduqm0Nybd94uoMe3IEmo3XD9Y/Uka/SqmItSgVJfgRaxvF6CAetnvTKa8OPit2tHk4y0TgKlU2ocV5017Bg2m1NwUNjVv9z0IeycoZF0RN3jfrX31CyMc=; X-YMail-OSG: lcvs9XQVM1lRy60WzGgCxpjkp0bleIKtFxto82p0srTTcGyU2gWVz3Y7aaAlPPTvJRoUTynwp3LYj4Gi6pjXQt4MnULYlwfQAYQvm0bC0sBUlquIsE1x8iC3ObJUSOYq1dt0SB5BS72pRIQ- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 07:08:16 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070103112227.01b034f8@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <708882.10169.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:08:18 +0000 (UTC) --- a k butler wrote: > ...I loved the way they put a "warm up delay" on the > LEDS for the "valve glow" Ha ha ha! I love shit like that too. When I first got my Digitech 2112 I was all, "What the hell's wrong with this! THE TUBE LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BLOW! ... Oh, it's an LED!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 15:09:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 359633BED5; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=BFoPl0OzXr3/jlFjdZ0CWjQ58rHv5RsH44SdQBgc1xNTZir8eXWwbXNdIwDmSWriDHV9hlvmp4CrmfZWJfmmYfbbnpn16UDUqN0CkHgPOIVhpXUBnnd9ZGDwGE5Wbh6dTvgNGeb56ab/Acur6WLP+VXsnPWmKrzlaIyG0XLZPhk=; X-YMail-OSG: uIvGS2YVM1ku.2fhzLl1ROKqqSyai7qd2W48t21bDHyFw_bTOIGZCo2BwIoOPJaVFx4jYJUiXxvMTsvvjU69th1TSspMw3cqzsct6A9PBQfrSvP7VhC9Fr4693dSJLSjTUttP24FBw8UngM- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 07:09:58 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: You can't have everyting (tube) where would you put it? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <028001c72f11$9ff854f0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <148984.38763.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:09:59 +0000 (UTC) I know I know, the 3rd movie sucked, but I love it anyway. The scene with the family in the train station saved it for me. --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > I love the analogy, Mark. Except, just don't take > it to the third movie, > okay? :) I like being a brain in a vat. > > K- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark sottilaro" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:55 PM > Subject: You can't have everyting (tube) where would > you put it? > > > > --- RICK WALKER wrote: > > > >> "Should I run my recordings through a freeware > >> plugin that uses digital > >> acoustic modelling > >> to simulate tape saturation that 95% of ALL > >> audiences cannot distinguish > >> from the sound of the reall thing (Revox)...... > > > > This has been the theme of my music gear world for > a > > while, so it's near and dear to my heart. On one > side > > of me, the "red pill" side, I want to live in the > > "real world." A world full of tape and tubes and > > messy stuff to fuck with. The other side of me > enjoys > > living in a world where the real world is > simulated. > > The good thing about it is, as Morphius says, "It > is a > > system with rules. These rules can be bent... and > > some can be broken." > > > > Like the rule of space. If I wanted a real tube > pre, > > I'd have to figure out where it would go in my > world. > > Vintage warmer just takes up space on a hard > drive. > > Not that this hard drive space is infinite, but > it's > > far easier to increase than building an addition > to a > > house. > > > >> .......or should I use the money that I would > have > >> spent on a used > >> Revox tape machine (and all it's attendant > cabling > >> and cabinetry and space > >> to house it) > >> on that French Horn that I"ve been lusting over?" > > > > Here in San Francisco, the space law is not > bendable. > > There's a fixed amount of it and lots of people > who > > want to live in it because it happens to be pretty > > damn cool place. I'd love to have a wall of > vintage > > synths, rack gear and tube amps. That would mean > > working a lot more to fund the rent, or moving far > > away from the cool place. Moving far from the > cool > > place often means less work for people like me, so > > there's that too. > > > >> Both answers to that question are valid > >> artistically and I truly respect > >> you if your answer is different from mine. > > > > I don't think it's artistically driven is it? > It's a > > pure problem of space/money. Wouldn't we all love > a > > house full of the best coolest gear, computer and > > otherwise? > > > >> If people have the money to do both, then I say > more > >> power to you. > > > > We all find a place of equlibrium. I find I need > a > > good community feeling in my 'hood so I give up > the > > space I'd like. Also I have fallen madly in love > with > > a woman who's got a big dog so that adds it's own > > limitations in terms of where you can live > (especially > > in a city) > > > > I've chosen to give up large studio gear for > smaller > > more nimble computer stuff. Does it sound as > good? > > Probably not, but it got to the point where I > didn't > > have much choise and I'm sure glad I can keep the > > massive amount of gear in a virtual world at > least. > > > > I love toys! > > > > M > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 15:12:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D90D13BEE8; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ds1KLSyx80KWdMsinuMq4HDlXjqql118N0vtX3WiDSz/McZvClMvFDjhSlyHOEngcQlT/cz/zERxjSvZY4JJmkEzO8RrMNS05VzcKuh0h+HGifPgioBL506+rV2SiSZGNDk9A6XBiAAFm0ezVMgsu/cbSdOUnf4bppyfCueRrVE= Message-ID: <55e79c0d0701030712i55b1036ah31731257b278288e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 09:12:05 -0600 From: "Dan Katayama" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_94528_12305940.1167837125415" References: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:12:06 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_94528_12305940.1167837125415 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Charles. I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right now and I'm really liking the RC50! 2007/1/2, Charles Zwicky : > > > The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape. > The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not reverse, > pitch or octave with the 4 normal tracks. > > > Correct me if I am wrong > but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's > when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks? > > Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or change > the octave?? > > Thanks in advance... > > -- > kosukeweb > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 > > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > -- kosukeweb http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_94528_12305940.1167837125415 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Charles.
I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right now
and I'm really liking the RC50!



2007/1/2, Charles Zwicky < cazwicky@earthlink.net>:

The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape.
The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not reverse, pitch or octave with the 4 normal tracks.


Correct me if I am wrong
but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's
when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks?

Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or change the octave??

Thanks in advance...

--
kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76


-- 



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kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_94528_12305940.1167837125415-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 16:29:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDF3E3BEE2; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mPtv5g5B1ZO6auv/YeT1CyW492uatTIqNjoKDO89Z0crZ5MsUzwEYGqz+8kAXN3mLNvwhSgZugF8YMvbwXTL8vm52n9xpf2OrKBjVhCdCY0oQvhqVOlhwnYoiiJeRcR3eY+JbcqHAuG3osTcU9Ox9FRVqEm5YYhckdmvKLCU7fE= Message-ID: <64b81a780701030829h17d37b39x9c9431dc67979650@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:29:40 -0500 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. In-Reply-To: <00b001c72eb2$555d1b10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <004401c72eb0$101127b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <00b001c72eb2$555d1b10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Kris et al. Just a bit of a heads up regarding CDRs (& CDRWs): they don't hold up well to the ravages of time and studies have placed their estimated shelf life at less than 10 years with many folks finding the cheap CDR(W)s may not last half that long. This is a big deal for archival purposes as it renders CDR(W)s completely useless for reliable long term storage. This probably isn't an issue for small runs of albums for demo purposes or to pass among friends, but I wouldn't expect to find a functional CDR buried in the attic twenty years later. The best solution I've found so far is to store master copies of all my work on hard discs. Some folks use a system wherein they buy a new (small, not these 200GB models) hard disk for each new album project. They do all their recording & mastering, burn CDs, then pull the drive out, label it, and stick it on a shelf. The cheaper option is to periodically (every two years or so) reburn your CDR(W)s so you've always got a few fresh ones around. Todd On 1/2/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > That's the case for DiskFaktory as well. That's part of the reason why the > price is so reasonable. I don't mind it. I'm finished with glass mastered > CDs, and only my first looping CD was glass-mastered (I obtained no benefit > from the extra cost). I haven't found a person yet who can't play my CD-Rs, > and they look no different than the glass mastered (silver bottomed, etc). > > Kris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Peters > To: Loopers Delight > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:53 PM > Subject: RE: cheap cd publishing no min. > > > > The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, shrink > warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this for a short > run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass mastered CDs through > another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD > > > I doubt that they really do CDs - I think what they're doing is CDRs. > > > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 16:33:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BAF43BEE9; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: scott@dreamstate.to via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.088424 secs) Message-ID: <2918.142.106.248.72.1167842027.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: <64b81a780701030829h17d37b39x9c9431dc67979650@mail.gmail.com> References: <004401c72eb0$101127b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <00b001c72eb2$555d1b10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <64b81a780701030829h17d37b39x9c9431dc67979650@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:33:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. From: scott@dreamstate.to To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Any idea how long the hard-drives last sitting on a shelf? Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com > Kris et al. > > Just a bit of a heads up regarding CDRs (& CDRWs): they don't hold up > well to the ravages of time and studies have placed their estimated > shelf life at less than 10 years with many folks finding the cheap > CDR(W)s may not last half that long. This is a big deal for archival > purposes as it renders CDR(W)s completely useless for reliable long > term storage. > > This probably isn't an issue for small runs of albums for demo > purposes or to pass among friends, but I wouldn't expect to find a > functional CDR buried in the attic twenty years later. > > The best solution I've found so far is to store master copies of all > my work on hard discs. Some folks use a system wherein they buy a new > (small, not these 200GB models) hard disk for each new album project. > They do all their recording & mastering, burn CDs, then pull the drive > out, label it, and stick it on a shelf. > > The cheaper option is to periodically (every two years or so) reburn > your CDR(W)s so you've always got a few fresh ones around. > > Todd > > > On 1/2/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >> >> That's the case for DiskFaktory as well. That's part of the reason why >> the >> price is so reasonable. I don't mind it. I'm finished with glass >> mastered >> CDs, and only my first looping CD was glass-mastered (I obtained no >> benefit >> from the extra cost). I haven't found a person yet who can't play my >> CD-Rs, >> and they look no different than the glass mastered (silver bottomed, >> etc). >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Michael Peters >> To: Loopers Delight >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:53 PM >> Subject: RE: cheap cd publishing no min. >> >> >> > The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, shrink >> warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this for a >> short >> run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass mastered CDs >> through >> another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD >> >> >> I doubt that they really do CDs - I think what they're doing is CDRs. >> >> >> -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 16:44:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 842403BEDF; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H2h7Adx2PU3ouCTdipVS+hF4SD/e1YjXUd56f0E1wfDIVxS0CBuLpveSZ5laauRCXyMAP/A/5Nc3xgA5+tOYg9dZ7bBvlIv7W3xdui0I7CjR9P+sTnpxHD0QtQ/sC6Te69freniCUbXBfatvcsESQ0uLRf897JqXNvkm53SOY/E= Message-ID: <64b81a780701030844r2299aec5w568e37def382e64e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:44:09 -0500 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. In-Reply-To: <2918.142.106.248.72.1167842027.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <004401c72eb0$101127b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <00b001c72eb2$555d1b10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <64b81a780701030829h17d37b39x9c9431dc67979650@mail.gmail.com> <2918.142.106.248.72.1167842027.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Good question. I know some old (circa 80s, early 90s) drives would have a tendency to freeze up if left sitting for too long. I don't think this applies any more, but it would be a good idea to do a little research on the topic. Todd On 1/3/07, scott@dreamstate.to wrote: > Any idea how long the hard-drives last sitting on a shelf? > > Cheers, > Scott M2 > > http://www.dreamSTATE.to > ambientelectronicsoundscapes > http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com > > > Kris et al. > > > > Just a bit of a heads up regarding CDRs (& CDRWs): they don't hold up > > well to the ravages of time and studies have placed their estimated > > shelf life at less than 10 years with many folks finding the cheap > > CDR(W)s may not last half that long. This is a big deal for archival > > purposes as it renders CDR(W)s completely useless for reliable long > > term storage. > > > > This probably isn't an issue for small runs of albums for demo > > purposes or to pass among friends, but I wouldn't expect to find a > > functional CDR buried in the attic twenty years later. > > > > The best solution I've found so far is to store master copies of all > > my work on hard discs. Some folks use a system wherein they buy a new > > (small, not these 200GB models) hard disk for each new album project. > > They do all their recording & mastering, burn CDs, then pull the drive > > out, label it, and stick it on a shelf. > > > > The cheaper option is to periodically (every two years or so) reburn > > your CDR(W)s so you've always got a few fresh ones around. > > > > Todd > > > > > > On 1/2/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> > >> > >> That's the case for DiskFaktory as well. That's part of the reason why > >> the > >> price is so reasonable. I don't mind it. I'm finished with glass > >> mastered > >> CDs, and only my first looping CD was glass-mastered (I obtained no > >> benefit > >> from the extra cost). I haven't found a person yet who can't play my > >> CD-Rs, > >> and they look no different than the glass mastered (silver bottomed, > >> etc). > >> > >> Kris > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Michael Peters > >> To: Loopers Delight > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:53 PM > >> Subject: RE: cheap cd publishing no min. > >> > >> > >> > The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, shrink > >> warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this for a > >> short > >> run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass mastered CDs > >> through > >> another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD > >> > >> > >> I doubt that they really do CDs - I think what they're doing is CDRs. > >> > >> > >> -Michael > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 16:47:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DE683BEFA; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <64b81a780701030829h17d37b39x9c9431dc67979650@mail.gmail.com> References: <004401c72eb0$101127b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <00b001c72eb2$555d1b10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <64b81a780701030829h17d37b39x9c9431dc67979650@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-557073199 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 08:47:14 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:47:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-557073199 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I like the gold CDs. They're SUPPOSED to last 100 years. Of course... I know. But I have two terabites of hard drive now loaded and am getting tired of buying them! I always use gold CDs to send to master or replicate. They sound better. CDRs are good for short runs and testing before glass master etc. ALWAYS good to print as CDR first, circulate and see what folks think. Then you can be sure you have the song order right, songs right etc. The cheapest thing is to buy a CDR duplicator and decent ink jet printer. I used to do that as a part of my business. Easy... and after a few runs and selling the CDRs, it's paid for. Mine cost around 700 USD. Printer was around 500. Once you've sold one or two hundred CDs, it's paid for. For archiving, I'm setting my hopes on Blueray. Say... there's a good name for an digerati electronica soul band - Blueray Charles. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 3-Jan-07, at 8:29 AM, Todd Pafford wrote: > Kris et al. > > Just a bit of a heads up regarding CDRs (& CDRWs): they don't hold up > well to the ravages of time and studies have placed their estimated > shelf life at less than 10 years with many folks finding the cheap > CDR(W)s may not last half that long. This is a big deal for archival > purposes as it renders CDR(W)s completely useless for reliable long > term storage. > > This probably isn't an issue for small runs of albums for demo > purposes or to pass among friends, but I wouldn't expect to find a > functional CDR buried in the attic twenty years later. > > The best solution I've found so far is to store master copies of all > my work on hard discs. Some folks use a system wherein they buy a new > (small, not these 200GB models) hard disk for each new album project. > They do all their recording & mastering, burn CDs, then pull the drive > out, label it, and stick it on a shelf. > > The cheaper option is to periodically (every two years or so) reburn > your CDR(W)s so you've always got a few fresh ones around. > > Todd > > > On 1/2/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >> >> That's the case for DiskFaktory as well. That's part of the reason >> why the >> price is so reasonable. I don't mind it. I'm finished with glass >> mastered >> CDs, and only my first looping CD was glass-mastered (I obtained no >> benefit >> from the extra cost). I haven't found a person yet who can't play my >> CD-Rs, >> and they look no different than the glass mastered (silver bottomed, >> etc). >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Michael Peters >> To: Loopers Delight >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:53 PM >> Subject: RE: cheap cd publishing no min. >> >> >> > The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, >> shrink >> warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this for >> a short >> run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass mastered CDs >> through >> another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD >> >> >> I doubt that they really do CDs - I think what they're doing is CDRs. >> >> >> -Michael > --Apple-Mail-3-557073199 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII I like the gold CDs. They're SUPPOSED to last 100 years. Of course... I know. But I have two terabites of hard drive now loaded and am getting tired of buying them! I always use gold CDs to send to master or replicate. They sound better. CDRs are good for short runs and testing before glass master etc. ALWAYS good to print as CDR first, circulate and see what folks think. Then you can be sure you have the song order right, songs right etc. The cheapest thing is to buy a CDR duplicator and decent ink jet printer. I used to do that as a part of my business. Easy... and after a few runs and selling the CDRs, it's paid for. Mine cost around 700 USD. Printer was around 500. Once you've sold one or two hundred CDs, it's paid for. For archiving, I'm setting my hopes on Blueray. Say... there's a good name for an digerati electronica soul band - Blueray Charles. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 3-Jan-07, at 8:29 AM, Todd Pafford wrote: Kris et al. Just a bit of a heads up regarding CDRs (& CDRWs): they don't hold up well to the ravages of time and studies have placed their estimated shelf life at less than 10 years with many folks finding the cheap CDR(W)s may not last half that long. This is a big deal for archival purposes as it renders CDR(W)s completely useless for reliable long term storage. This probably isn't an issue for small runs of albums for demo purposes or to pass among friends, but I wouldn't expect to find a functional CDR buried in the attic twenty years later. The best solution I've found so far is to store master copies of all my work on hard discs. Some folks use a system wherein they buy a new (small, not these 200GB models) hard disk for each new album project. They do all their recording & mastering, burn CDs, then pull the drive out, label it, and stick it on a shelf. The cheaper option is to periodically (every two years or so) reburn your CDR(W)s so you've always got a few fresh ones around. Todd On 1/2/07, Krispen Hartung < wrote: That's the case for DiskFaktory as well. That's part of the reason why the price is so reasonable. I don't mind it. I'm finished with glass mastered CDs, and only my first looping CD was glass-mastered (I obtained no benefit from the extra cost). I haven't found a person yet who can't play my CD-Rs, and they look no different than the glass mastered (silver bottomed, etc). Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Peters To: Loopers Delight Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: RE: cheap cd publishing no min. > The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, shrink warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this for a short run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass mastered CDs through another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD I doubt that they really do CDs - I think what they're doing is CDRs. -Michael --Apple-Mail-3-557073199-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 17:06:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 780213BEF7; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <55e79c0d0701030712i55b1036ah31731257b278288e@mail.gmail.com> References: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> <55e79c0d0701030712i55b1036ah31731257b278288e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:52:57 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1044278493==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120b27a6b9f5179285e9dcb77e3f138d857eea5ece4b2f813cb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:06:50 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1044278493==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Horses for courses. Every looper inspires a different style of working. I find the menu driven operation of th RC 50 to be too intrusive, plus NOBODY seems to be able to explain how to turn off the obnoxious beat when you desire to start a new loop without a rhythm. >Thanks Charles. >I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right now >and I'm really liking the RC50! > > >2007/1/2, Charles Zwicky < >cazwicky@earthlink.net>: > > >The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape. >The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not >reverse, pitch or octave with the 4 normal tracks. > > >>Correct me if I am wrong >>but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's >>when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks? >> >>Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or >>change the octave?? >> >>Thanks in advance... >> >>-- >>kosukeweb >>http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 >> > > >-- >... >http://www.zmix.net > > > > >-- >kosukeweb >http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-1044278493==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function
Horses for courses. Every looper inspires a different style of working. I find the menu driven operation of th RC 50 to be too intrusive, plus NOBODY seems to be able to explain how to turn off the obnoxious beat when you desire to start a new loop without a rhythm.

Thanks Charles.
I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right now
and I'm really liking the RC50!

2007/1/2, Charles Zwicky < cazwicky@earthlink.net>:

The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape.
The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not reverse, pitch or octave with the 4 normal tracks.


Correct me if I am wrong
but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's
when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks?

Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or change the octave??

Thanks in advance...

--
kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76


--
...
http://www.zmix.net



--
kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76


-- 
...
http://www.zmix.net
--============_-1044278493==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 17:08:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D33123BECF; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 469739985 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C72F59.C28C926D" Subject: RE: 2nd hand revox (was: Tubes in Pre-amps) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:08:16 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A725797F3@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: 2nd hand revox (was: Tubes in Pre-amps) thread-index: AccvWKUuxL1Fu+63QuWMMN6MRRmOnQ== References: <013201c72ee0$0b729880$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2007 17:08:16.0899 (UTC) FILETIME=[C2BB2D30:01C72F59] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:08:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C72F59.C28C926D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>Should I run my recordings through a freeware plugin..or should I use = the money that I would have spent on a used Revox tape machine<< yeah, the key word there is "freeware". the plug-in tape sim I was = thinking of at the time of my brain-heated ranting was something I'd = seen reviewed, probably by hugh robjohns in sound-on-sound, which was = close to or beyond 2000 english quids. I mean, that's crazy however much = disposable income one has. as a rule of thumb, when it comes to disposing of disposable income in = some sort of musician-friendly emporium, I tend to favour things that = can make a noise on their own over things that merely process or = control. I mention this because in this context, the french horn is = obviously top of the list, then the revox, then the software. indeed, that far-off day in ancient history when I bought my first = repeater, I felt compelled to acquire a new synth module I didn't need, = which was the start of a whole new adventure using emu modules. but I digress. again. d. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C72F59.C28C926D Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: 2nd hand revox (was: Tubes in Pre-amps)

>>Should  I run my recordings through a = freeware plugin..or should I use the money that I would have spent on a = used Revox tape machine<<

yeah, the key word there is "freeware". the plug-in tape sim I = was thinking of at the time of my brain-heated ranting was something I'd = seen reviewed, probably by hugh robjohns in sound-on-sound, which was = close to or beyond 2000 english quids. I mean, that's crazy however much = disposable income one has.

as a rule of thumb, when it comes to disposing of disposable income in = some sort of musician-friendly emporium, I tend to favour things that = can make a noise on their own over things that merely process or = control. I mention this because in this context, the french horn is = obviously top of the list, then the revox, then the software.
indeed, that far-off day in ancient history when I bought my first = repeater, I felt compelled to acquire a new synth module I didn't need, = which was the start of a whole new adventure using emu modules.
but I digress. again.

d.



------_=_NextPart_001_01C72F59.C28C926D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 17:13:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92C363BECF; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 295.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <283AC9B9-03D4-4249-B21F-9ED9E7B5F4C3@stavros.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Stavros Stavropoulos Subject: Loopy Llama in Live 5.2 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:12:28 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Loopy Lama vst is crashing Ableton live when I try to load it. I've enabled vst plugs in pref.... Any suggestions. I'm on an Imac G5 os 10.4.8 / 1.5 gb ram thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 17:13:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC5673BEEA; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HH/tFOwe1GGJNUwx1j5acVDU+NKdSgQPfjZbixnGCzuGYUSEfJyos+xMO3W3KL3qi3xlwFnCnG4EG4FUOMPcNFXOjOfy//grw056hSZHyx0mfYQV80UK4pIO6TNx9HsLFAgR32b6wN24nv9NfRIvkWgeFEzdmcl6gCeQUc81S4o= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:13:30 +0000 From: "Pawel Janowski" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> <55e79c0d0701030712i55b1036ah31731257b278288e@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:13:31 +0000 (UTC) I couldn't switch that off either. That's the big turn-off with the RC50 for me. It just seemed to be too much of a "jam tool" with all the beats etc. Haven't tried the 2880 yet. On 1/3/07, Charles Zwicky wrote: > > > Horses for courses. Every looper inspires a different style of working. I > find the menu driven operation of th RC 50 to be too intrusive, plus NOBODY > seems to be able to explain how to turn off the obnoxious beat when you > desire to start a new loop without a rhythm. > > > > Thanks Charles. > I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right now > and I'm really liking the RC50! > > > 2007/1/2, Charles Zwicky < cazwicky@earthlink.net>: > > > > The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape. > The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not reverse, pitch > or octave with the 4 normal tracks. > > > > > Correct me if I am wrong > but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's > when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks? > > Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or change > the octave?? > > Thanks in advance... > > -- > kosukeweb > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 > > > > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > > > > -- > kosukeweb > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 > > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 17:49:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED39A3BECA; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> <55e79c0d0701030712i55b1036ah31731257b278288e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:49:29 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120b27a6b9f5179285e428e4f6665121b7a10da127345fe7d85350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:49:43 +0000 (UTC) I manged to get someting happening on the RC-50 that I liked, but nothing so special that I wanted to own it... and I have owned almost every hardware looper out there! Roland / Boss have always aimed for the lowest common denominator in their products. I would guess that a survey of owners would show that 90% of the RC-20 / RC-50s contain a 12 bar blues at one point or another! I sold my baby, the Jamman, to the talented Tom Heasley. at the moment I have only my EH 16 second delay, the Repeater and a 2880. Of these three the 2880 sounds the best, by far. >I couldn't switch that off either. That's the big turn-off with the >RC50 for me. It just seemed to be too much of a "jam tool" with all >the beats etc. Haven't tried the 2880 yet. > >On 1/3/07, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >> >>Horses for courses. Every looper inspires a different style of working. I >>find the menu driven operation of th RC 50 to be too intrusive, plus NOBODY >>seems to be able to explain how to turn off the obnoxious beat when you >>desire to start a new loop without a rhythm. >> >> >> >>Thanks Charles. >> I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right now >> and I'm really liking the RC50! >> >> >>2007/1/2, Charles Zwicky < cazwicky@earthlink.net>: >> >> >> >>The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape. >>The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not reverse, pitch >>or octave with the 4 normal tracks. >> >> >> >> >>Correct me if I am wrong >> but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's >> when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks? >> >> Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or change >>the octave?? >> >> Thanks in advance... >> >> -- >> kosukeweb >> http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>... >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> >> >> >> -- >> kosukeweb >> http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >>... >> http://www.zmix.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 18:13:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC81B3BEDF; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <30319595.1167847981080.JavaMail.root@web26> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:13:01 -0800 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function Cc: Pawel Janowski MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't one just turn the separate volume control down on the rhythm track? -- Paul ---- Pawel Janowski wrote: > I couldn't switch that off either. That's the big turn-off with the > RC50 for me. It just seemed to be too much of a "jam tool" with all > the beats etc. Haven't tried the 2880 yet. > > On 1/3/07, Charles Zwicky wrote: > > > > > > Horses for courses. Every looper inspires a different style of working. I > > find the menu driven operation of th RC 50 to be too intrusive, plus NOBODY > > seems to be able to explain how to turn off the obnoxious beat when you > > desire to start a new loop without a rhythm. > > > > > > > > Thanks Charles. > > I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right now > > and I'm really liking the RC50! > > > > > > 2007/1/2, Charles Zwicky < cazwicky@earthlink.net>: > > > > > > > > The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape. > > The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not reverse, pitch > > or octave with the 4 normal tracks. > > > > > > > > > > Correct me if I am wrong > > but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's > > when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks? > > > > Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or change > > the octave?? > > > > Thanks in advance... > > > > -- > > kosukeweb > > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ... > > http://www.zmix.net > > > > > > > > > > -- > > kosukeweb > > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ... > > http://www.zmix.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 18:49:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68EE73BEDA; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 02:49:03 +0800 From: Randolf Arriola Subject: Boss RC50 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <004a01c72f67$d7407090$6501a8c0@embryo> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> <55e79c0d0701030712i55b1036ah31731257b278288e@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Season's greetings everyone. :) Having lived with 28secs of loop time (no undo function) on a DL4 I'm in love with what the RC50 offers in helping me realize my looping fantasies. I've always dreamed of owning, playing and creating with an Echoplex Digital Pro. Well with he RC50 here maybe next time... hopefully it would be a seriously expanded version called Echoplex MkII :) I play a Godin Multiac Steel Duet with the RC50 without using the built in drums as I prefer to create percussive loops by slapping, thumping or tapping on the guitar's soundboard with my bare hands. This is an essential part of my performance and I often also apply delays to the hand beats for rhythmic variety. I use both Single and Multi modes though I find myself using the Multi mode most of the time. As I previously stated I do wish there was a way to switch play back of sections A & B of a song with phrase pedal 2 and 3 whilst assigning phrase 1 to contine looping. Currently the RC50 doesn't allow this but I'm pretty sure this can be resolved with firmware updates. (BOSS! If you are reading this please, please do so soon!) I use the RC50 to compose, improv, practice and teach in my private time but I don't use pre stored loops in my solo performance which I can if I choose to but somehow prefer the freedom and creative excitement that comes with creating the loops on the spot when performing for an audience. I don't seem to fully understand why others are facing such major problems about the built in drums. How I go about the RC50 is to program some (blank audio) presets in multi or single mode with certain parameters (eg. fade in/out, immmediate/phrase change mode etc) saved according to my range of looping needs. I always save the presets with the guide drum knob turned fully clockwise. I use a single expression pedal with the RC50 which I sometimes save in the patch for general volume control or independent phrase volume. During setup for my gigs I go through a lil procedure of checking that phrase 1,2 & 3 are set correctly, that the input knobs, output knobs and finally the built in drum vol knob is turned fully anti clockwise. Except for my above stated wants and needs for improvements the RC50 is so far so good. :) I'm currently performing 5 nights a week here in Singapore playing at Harry's (Harbour Front and Far East Square). Come by if you're in town ya. My repertoire is a mix of reinterpreted covers in Jazzy Pop, Rock, Blues and originals mixed with some ambient and soundscape improvs when the mood is right. Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) Hp 97584919 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 19:02:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84C443BEF0; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <28809091.1167850524230.JavaMail.root@web26> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:55:24 -0800 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boss RC50 Cc: Randolf Arriola MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (I always save the presets with the guide drum knob turned fully clockwise) Do you mean "anti clockwise"? -- Paul Richards ---- Randolf Arriola wrote: > Season's greetings everyone. :) > > Having lived with 28secs of loop time (no undo function) on a DL4 I'm in > love with what the RC50 offers in helping me realize my looping fantasies. > I've always dreamed of owning, playing and creating with an Echoplex Digital > Pro. Well with he RC50 here maybe next time... hopefully it would be a > seriously expanded version called Echoplex MkII :) > > I play a Godin Multiac Steel Duet with the RC50 without using the built in > drums as I prefer to create percussive loops by slapping, thumping or > tapping on the guitar's soundboard with my bare hands. This is an essential > part of my performance and I often also apply delays to the hand beats for > rhythmic variety. I use both Single and Multi modes though I find myself > using the Multi mode most of the time. As I previously stated I do wish > there was a way to switch play back of sections A & B of a song with phrase > pedal 2 and 3 whilst assigning phrase 1 to contine looping. Currently the > RC50 doesn't allow this but I'm pretty sure this can be resolved with > firmware updates. (BOSS! If you are reading this please, please do so soon!) > I use the RC50 to compose, improv, practice and teach in my private time but > I don't use pre stored loops in my solo performance which I can if I choose > to but somehow prefer the freedom and creative excitement that comes with > creating the loops on the spot when performing for an audience. > > I don't seem to fully understand why others are facing such major problems > about the built in drums. How I go about the RC50 is to program some (blank > audio) presets in multi or single mode with certain parameters (eg. fade > in/out, immmediate/phrase change mode etc) saved according to my range of > looping needs. I always save the presets with the guide drum knob turned > fully clockwise. I use a single expression pedal with the RC50 which I > sometimes save in the patch for general volume control or independent phrase > volume. During setup for my gigs I go through a lil procedure of checking > that phrase 1,2 & 3 are set correctly, that the input knobs, output knobs > and finally the built in drum vol knob is turned fully anti clockwise. > Except for my above stated wants and needs for improvements the RC50 is so > far so good. :) > > I'm currently performing 5 nights a week here in Singapore playing at > Harry's (Harbour Front and Far East Square). Come by if you're in town ya. > My repertoire is a mix of reinterpreted covers in Jazzy Pop, Rock, Blues and > originals mixed with some ambient and soundscape improvs when the mood is > right. > > Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) > Hp 97584919 > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm > http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 19:07:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CE963BEF3; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Sf5ytWXoPBRkZ67ubzDVGGel07hpELrHK8QaPSh4c7xRNVDiYlO2rNhVS6gDVsLZG3GwD+DNXU/bfHBZ6p/4hotLSJf7M3QWRmgPC2rtbVzB+Cuyw4zixefcHGkAA5DZhUa61aIfmHeXWryg82DJoODoX5yCQhzMjYdfBKlbh70= Message-ID: <26ba8d120701031107x27ef3d42hf22ae69f52911a48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 14:07:29 -0500 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. In-Reply-To: <2918.142.106.248.72.1167842027.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <004401c72eb0$101127b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <00b001c72eb2$555d1b10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <64b81a780701030829h17d37b39x9c9431dc67979650@mail.gmail.com> <2918.142.106.248.72.1167842027.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e387b14b5f2d4a72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Never leave your backups sitting on a shelf! I have rotating backups that I do every month or so (as well as incremental after I do a lot of work).... periodically I erase the oldest one and use it again for new things. And at least once, the old backup didn't work -- so I just tossed the disk out. This means that I never archive things, they are always live... but with a 250 gig drive running less than $60 now, it's really not that much money considering how much work I put into my digital world. (I'm waiting for another TB of disk to show up in the mail....) On 1/3/07, scott@dreamstate.to wrote: > Any idea how long the hard-drives last sitting on a shelf? > > Cheers, > Scott M2 > > http://www.dreamSTATE.to > ambientelectronicsoundscapes > http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com > > > Kris et al. > > > > Just a bit of a heads up regarding CDRs (& CDRWs): they don't hold up > > well to the ravages of time and studies have placed their estimated > > shelf life at less than 10 years with many folks finding the cheap > > CDR(W)s may not last half that long. This is a big deal for archival > > purposes as it renders CDR(W)s completely useless for reliable long > > term storage. > > > > This probably isn't an issue for small runs of albums for demo > > purposes or to pass among friends, but I wouldn't expect to find a > > functional CDR buried in the attic twenty years later. > > > > The best solution I've found so far is to store master copies of all > > my work on hard discs. Some folks use a system wherein they buy a new > > (small, not these 200GB models) hard disk for each new album project. > > They do all their recording & mastering, burn CDs, then pull the drive > > out, label it, and stick it on a shelf. > > > > The cheaper option is to periodically (every two years or so) reburn > > your CDR(W)s so you've always got a few fresh ones around. > > > > Todd > > > > > > On 1/2/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> > >> > >> That's the case for DiskFaktory as well. That's part of the reason why > >> the > >> price is so reasonable. I don't mind it. I'm finished with glass > >> mastered > >> CDs, and only my first looping CD was glass-mastered (I obtained no > >> benefit > >> from the extra cost). I haven't found a person yet who can't play my > >> CD-Rs, > >> and they look no different than the glass mastered (silver bottomed, > >> etc). > >> > >> Kris > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Michael Peters > >> To: Loopers Delight > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:53 PM > >> Subject: RE: cheap cd publishing no min. > >> > >> > >> > The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, shrink > >> warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this for a > >> short > >> run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass mastered CDs > >> through > >> another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD > >> > >> > >> I doubt that they really do CDs - I think what they're doing is CDRs. > >> > >> > >> -Michael > > > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 19:51:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D97863BEE8; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <30319595.1167847981080.JavaMail.root@web26> References: <30319595.1167847981080.JavaMail.root@web26> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 14:47:28 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120b27a6b9f5179285ee4ec44dd7bb053db80a966c17e7b0748350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Sure, you can turn it down, but it's a software knob and won't read the physical position until it is moved. It defaults to FULL BLAST when you start from scratch... yuk. >Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't one just turn the separate volume >control down on the rhythm track? >-- >Paul > >---- Pawel Janowski wrote: >> I couldn't switch that off either. That's the big turn-off with the >> RC50 for me. It just seemed to be too much of a "jam tool" with all >> the beats etc. Haven't tried the 2880 yet. >> >> On 1/3/07, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> > >> > >> > Horses for courses. Every looper inspires a different style of working. I >> > find the menu driven operation of th RC 50 to be too intrusive, >>plus NOBODY >> > seems to be able to explain how to turn off the obnoxious beat when you >> > desire to start a new loop without a rhythm. >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks Charles. >> > I'm actually comparing the Boss RC50 vs the EH2880 side by side right now >> > and I'm really liking the RC50! >> > >> > >> > 2007/1/2, Charles Zwicky < cazwicky@earthlink.net>: >> > >> > >> > >> > The 4 normal tracks all act like a single piece of 4-track tape. >> > The mixdown track, when used in constant tempo mode will not >>reverse, pitch >> > or octave with the 4 normal tracks. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Correct me if I am wrong >> > but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's >> > when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks? >> > >> > Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in >>reverse or change >> > the octave?? >> > >> > Thanks in advance... >> > >> > -- >> > kosukeweb >> > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ... >> > http://www.zmix.net >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > kosukeweb >> > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > ... >> > http://www.zmix.net >> -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 20:36:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD1EB3BEE2; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.28] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070103164411.000BF3BEEA@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cds Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:36:42 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2007 20:36:44.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2103D70:01C72F76] Resent-Message-ID: <6_MRJB.A.4-F.fPBnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:36:47 +0000 (UTC) I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met at Lou Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media for archival storage. Cds are cool,but poorly designed,Putting the data on the bottom is just plain stupid.It seems someone believed they wouldn't scratch.I've seen cd condoms for sale-probably a good idea.And why don't they store data on both sides? couldn't sell as many units? I really like the idea of giving away music.I also like getting paid for my creative efforts.Don't see any reason I can't do a bit of each. In general the prices for mass distribution cds,compared to production costs are. obscene,esp for imports of ethnic stuff where the artists get practically nothing.So I like the idea of selling cds for low prices.Too low and people think they must not be any good,so optimal pricing would be less than commercial standard. _________________________________________________________________ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place!  MSN Shopping Sales & Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 20:50:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E7203BEE0; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAE+lm0XUSnInh2dsb2JhbACNPgEBCQ4q Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070103204327.01bd3e28@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:50:29 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Cds In-Reply-To: References: <20070103164411.000BF3BEEA@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-43C6AFB Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:50:25 +0000 (UTC) >I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met at Lou >Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media for archival storage. Smithsonian Folkways are transferring their tapes to digital. All media have limited life, but the advantage with digital is that with care you can re-copy every so often without loss. The advantage of tape is that even without care you still get some kind of audio, whereas when digital media degrades you tend to lose everything. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 21:12:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3809C3BEE7; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 21:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=biaThBMJTt+Q6N12VHnTQL9SYBLSW6gsIexvj7blvppxV1tBLySylixuBPybibzCmLsO1s8liFgpsWVgzEYnCkEhIcNsfLGVTFAck7KG9lMnfBdGTnTDAYwMPTFuKFyxkUjcdvfadUWf6dPWnNkfKHqiMhCqlb2s8vbDgjU4fbI=; X-YMail-OSG: Arf7ZJcVM1nu81GOOs5jkEdwRGZn0O66q6FZzMoB4gXLyOFLYmvu2wYMm7okS1xT5XvR5bacqAtCwa.Iu5j0H.hoNmIillN1Iz0fj7ID9_umLmdI.R0ITw-- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:12:24 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Loopy Llama in Live 5.2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <283AC9B9-03D4-4249-B21F-9ED9E7B5F4C3@stavros.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <249531.8862.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0qsmw.A.5sH.5wBnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 21:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Interesting, I just sent an email to the developer because Loop Llama is also crashing Live 6 on XP. Seems like it has issues. So far the only software looper for Mac that I feel is worth installing is Augustusloop. --- Stavros Stavropoulos wrote: > Loopy Lama vst is crashing Ableton live when I try > to load it. > I've enabled vst plugs in pref.... > Any suggestions. > I'm on an Imac G5 os 10.4.8 / 1.5 gb ram > thanks > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 22:10:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E27B3BEE2; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 22:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Rl/DggYFsyKKTGwoJ7/9My7A4uFHpRnARwDy5MsL/cZUDnNtpNlwY4B7aW6U+wTsjMZQBDxuf0l8D+/OUWVFILty5f7bgnPTIUllNRWq9+rIYPf2Bira/SSpt/H40l8P3nTqbsznDKpbBl/G48/A+PncNHjpkSTq1BsofqjVbzA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <249531.8862.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <249531.8862.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <04767137-BD3B-4F1B-8CB8-4D7A1CBFC4A6@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Loopy Llama in Live 5.2 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:10:22 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <1VGtGB.A.XWC.TnCnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 22:10:27 +0000 (UTC) On 3 jan 2007, at 22.12, mark sottilaro wrote: > Interesting, I just sent an email to the developer > because Loop Llama is also crashing Live 6 on XP. > Seems like it has issues. > > So far the only software looper for Mac that I feel is > worth installing is Augustusloop. Agreed! I too find that plug-in awesome! I've been using it for two years now and seen it improve with each upgrade based on our, the users, modest wishes. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 23:23:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B0513BEE2; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <459C3AF8.7040308@hevanet.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:23:36 -0800 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cds References: <20070103164411.000BF3BEEA@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070103204327.01bd3e28@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070103204327.01bd3e28@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:23:35 +0000 (UTC) CD/Tape...here's a tidbit about National Public Radio's Fresh Air: > Most of Gross's interviews are taped and edited down, and as is the > case in many radio programs, guests are often not in the studio. While > nearly all other radio programming now use digital recording, Fresh > Air is still recorded, edited and played on analog reel-to-reel tape. > However, the program's website announced in 2006 that the aging tapes > were now deteriorating and that they would soon begin transferring the > thousands of interviews "to a digital format and indexing them." The > show usually uses fiber-optic lines to conduct its interviews leading > to a superior sound quality. from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_Air http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gross Wow, Terry Gross has been there 30 years! =David a k butler wrote: > >> I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met at Lou >> Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media for archival >> storage. > > Smithsonian Folkways are transferring their tapes to digital. > > All media have limited life, but the advantage with digital is that > with care you can > re-copy every so often without loss. > > The advantage of tape is that even without care you still get some > kind of audio, whereas when digital media degrades you tend to lose > everything. > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 3 23:49:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D72CF3BED0; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BXtBNsY4L1cW8bXLgEJRyvtPqJToNjZ8uLRWjnJaMf+XKTestdwMibcY8wAy090uhqrU2xWOlKnEYpLyVNg+Ynm1YPBWUuR19+9DPrOQAb2IaoTcQ2FIewX8VE8L26ed2BAhEKtK3/AwyK9sGQ7LtLAMZ79YIUhBfuKpfyBvCaM= ; Message-ID: <20070103234911.95027.qmail@web27711.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZsFr4x0VM1nBsqyKZMGXc4aM_b6slaKoGQviapuv1C6IO0bfp_1ZSYEDkPNVEQvUOVhTDxFALCd2ONjKDYHiUwcUh_iUsHmdiTSvgllKDxrokg8wTF0- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:49:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Tony Douglas Subject: Re: Loopy Llama in Live 5.2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <04767137-BD3B-4F1B-8CB8-4D7A1CBFC4A6@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Augustus Loop is indeed superb, but I find myself having a growing soft spot for SooperLooper - I'm still fiddling around trying to decide whether SooperLooper with multiple loops open, or Rax (another piece of excellent and very cheap software) with multiple Augustus Loop instances open is the way to go. One advantage to multiple SooperLooper loops is that if you open up 4 loops, position the window in the top left corner then switch to 800x600 resolution, you get a huge display of what's going on - no risk of missing anything there ! (Resize the window a little and switch off the Dock for full effect...) - Tony --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 3 jan 2007, at 22.12, mark sottilaro wrote: > > > Interesting, I just sent an email to the developer > > because Loop Llama is also crashing Live 6 on XP. > > Seems like it has issues. > > > > So far the only software looper for Mac that I > feel is > > worth installing is Augustusloop. > > Agreed! I too find that plug-in awesome! I've been > using it for two > years now and seen it improve with each upgrade > based on our, the > users, modest wishes. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 00:16:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C76B43BEDB; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=RBBQdRLBKXm2IOsrqT0yxBDrcdktt7GyYinCmOeK6ADJnFRnXQoE0yfD+lk1iFCe2Z9EPKfSbuU0LHBADuvymGurX5azQGpMg+ujPRfGQm2Ow+Ube4ZkrluNxVGTHrcCWsDOQYV/bqM4bMCkpAFvzyclo8PbrCNU8EPX9pqxKQM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070103234911.95027.qmail@web27711.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20070103234911.95027.qmail@web27711.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8E19BE07-E840-40EC-8B36-E13FD78E9B81@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Loopy Llama in Live 5.2 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 01:16:18 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:16:24 +0000 (UTC) On 4 jan 2007, at 00.49, Tony Douglas wrote: > Augustus Loop is indeed superb, but I find myself > having a growing soft spot for SooperLooper - I'm > still fiddling around trying to decide whether > SooperLooper with multiple loops open, or Rax (another > piece of excellent and very cheap software) with > multiple Augustus Loop instances open is the way to > go. One advantage to multiple SooperLooper loops is > that if you open up 4 loops, position the window in > the top left corner then switch to 800x600 resolution, > you get a huge display of what's going on - no risk of > missing anything there ! (Resize the window a little > and switch off the Dock for full effect...) > > - Tony Yes, you're right about the visual monitoring problem with Augustus Loop. The plug-in window is so big. Last year I was thinking about fixing a "shell" in Max for displaying Augustus parameter status. I never went that far though because I was lucky to afford a pc to run Mobius instead. Now I use the Mac as the sound module and loop on a pc. Regarding SooperLooper vs Augustus I think this discussion is moot because they are very different. SooperLooper is more of a looper while Augustus is more of a dub machine on acid. I would try to use both on a Mac. Make some crazy sounds in August and assemble "the music" in SL. The nice part of Augustus is that you can pitch transpose a loop while it is recording overdubs. You don't need to do much of that before your brain is starting to overheat, but used in small dozes it's quite fun. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 01:08:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 972BF3BED6; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 01:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Andrew Koenig" To: Subject: Loops in New Jersey? Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:08:31 -0500 Message-ID: <008a01c72f9c$d9ea8ee0$6402a8c0@arkdesktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 01:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Where might I find looping performances or enthusiasts in northern New Jersey? (near Morristown would be ideal) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 02:24:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 388F43BED3; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 02:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: ModFX on ebay Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:24:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 02:24:27 +0000 (UTC) These things are really amazing, and really stunning that noone went for them in the first place and jaw dropping that they cleared them out so cheaply. I think I have all of them, they are bitchen except the Phaser which never worked for me. I took so long to unpack that one (they were $40 fer chrissake) that it was out of warranty when I discovered it was defective, lol The one noone talks much about that I adore is the tremelo unit, the Ampliton. I've never seen any tremelo do what it does. You can set a square wave tremelo to run through another one and then vary the rates which are mathematically linked to each other 4,2,1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32. You can switch these rates out in real time and they stay synced. You can do some trippy real time rhythmic stuff with it and then have the second tremelo square waving the results............................very f*ckin' hip!!!! Then there's the Bitr-man..................................wow, what a wonderful gnarl machine that is. A Bitr-man (or god forbid, two) in the hands of Michael Klobuchar and nonone even knows what will happen to western civilization next. Pure chaos or the second coming..................it's any bodies guess. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 09:57:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D86F3BEC7; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 9:57:09 +0000 From: "Fluke" To: donh@mindspring.com, "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: "Fluke" Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: UebiMiau 2.7.2 X-Original-IP: 82.195.186.220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MSMail-Priority: Medium Importance: Medium Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070104095716.8DDB45794E@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years experiance behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and guitar player) without too much trouble... ...but only until the blindfolds come off. Nik --------- Original Message -------- From: donh@mindspring.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: 02/01/07 19:37 > > Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... > > > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we > >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a SS amp that > >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. > > > > ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 11:32:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5014D3BEB3; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 06:34:23 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow This Morning and Galactic Travels Tonight To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <459CE63F.90303@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:32:52 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on EM pioneer Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Irrlicht" on Revisited Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#jan The Vinyl Starter will come from the LP "Trans Harmonic Nights" by Peter Baumann on Virgin Records and released in 1979. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and on the internet. All times are EST / GMT-5 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 14:20:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCDF73BECF; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <29048114.1167920407168.JavaMail.root@web37> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 6:20:07 -0800 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line 6 Amps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:20:08 +0000 (UTC) I took your advice and researched the recommended amps. I also had the Vox ADT60-something (had a tube and DSP) in my radar screen. I ended up ordering a Fender FM 100w DSP212 version. I just happen to like twin speakers. I figured I mostly used the Fender Twin reverb model in the Cyber Twin so maybe this will be a stopgap measure. I was really tempted by the Roland and the Vox though. The Roland because it implies a JC-120-ish sound. The Vox because of its rich tone (I had several other Vox valvetronix amps & the Tonelab before). At the prices they're going for, maybe I'll eventually buy one of each for different timbres. Regards, Paul ---- Krispen Hartung wrote: > What style? I'd consider the Fender FM65 DSP and Roland Cube 60 first. The > Spider seemed to have more features appealing to hard rockers. > > K- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Richards" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:43 PM > Subject: OT: Line 6 Amps > > > > Since a lot of the pre-amp thread was about digital vs tube amps, what are > > folks opinions of Line 6 amp products? I was toying with picking up a > > Spider III 2x10 amp due to an issue that caused me to lose my Fender Cyber > > Twin amp (and lack of cash). Are these amps reasoble amps for home > > recording use? > > > > -- > > Paul > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 14:41:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45F203BEDC; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01d801c7300e$77f85fb0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20070104095716.8DDB45794E@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 07:41:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:41:55 +0000 (UTC) That's great to hear, and I imagine it will only get better in the future too. Next thing you know, we'll be doing blind tests with the tube purists, but spraying "old amp" spray on new SS DSP amps to fool their noses too. And then, just like we make designer jeans that are already pre-ripped, faded, and fringed, we'll create new SS DSP amps with dings in them, old smoke smell, and a couple of fake tubes in the back that light up like christmas trees....oh, and we'll put led in the bottom of the amp so it weighs as much as a tube amp too, so they can continue to break their backs and rupture their disks if they want to. Some day, the dinosaurs will go instinct...maybe not in the next few decades, but very soon relatively speaking in the timeline of technology and human development. I see tube amps in museums, with model Ts, computers the size of rooms, and two-headed cows. K- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fluke" To: ; <"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"@arsenic.violacea.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:57 AM Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. > Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years experiance > behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and guitar > player) without too much trouble... > ...but only until the blindfolds come off. > > Nik > > --------- Original Message -------- > From: donh@mindspring.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. > Date: 02/01/07 19:37 > >> >> Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... >> >> > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >> >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a SS > amp that >> >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. >> > >> >> > > ________________________________________________ > Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 14:44:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 152863BEE7; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01f601c7300e$c3c0db20$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <29048114.1167920407168.JavaMail.root@web37> Subject: Re: Line 6 Amps Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 07:43:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Cool...the DSP212 is very popular too...it will be very loud and full. I think you'll be able to get a similar sound as a JC-120. There is a jazz clean DSP amp setting on the amp, plus the standard clean channel. You can add a touch of the built in chorus to each. K- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Richards" To: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: Re: Line 6 Amps >I took your advice and researched the recommended amps. I also had the Vox >ADT60-something (had a tube and DSP) in my radar screen. I ended up >ordering a Fender FM 100w DSP212 version. I just happen to like twin >speakers. I figured I mostly used the Fender Twin reverb model in the Cyber >Twin so maybe this will be a stopgap measure. > > I was really tempted by the Roland and the Vox though. The Roland because > it implies a JC-120-ish sound. The Vox because of its rich tone (I had > several other Vox valvetronix amps & the Tonelab before). At the prices > they're going for, maybe I'll eventually buy one of each for different > timbres. > > Regards, Paul > > ---- Krispen Hartung wrote: >> What style? I'd consider the Fender FM65 DSP and Roland Cube 60 first. >> The >> Spider seemed to have more features appealing to hard rockers. >> >> K- >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul Richards" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:43 PM >> Subject: OT: Line 6 Amps >> >> >> > Since a lot of the pre-amp thread was about digital vs tube amps, what >> > are >> > folks opinions of Line 6 amp products? I was toying with picking up a >> > Spider III 2x10 amp due to an issue that caused me to lose my Fender >> > Cyber >> > Twin amp (and lack of cash). Are these amps reasoble amps for home >> > recording use? >> > >> > -- >> > Paul >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 14:52:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFB563BEE4; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <459D1498.6000401@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:52:08 +0100 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ModFX on ebay References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:52:10 +0000 (UTC) YES!!! - I own two amplitons, two bitr'men' - and philtre, metavox, phaze and phlngr. I love the ampliton most and feed its input with the bitrman, which is a real freaky bastard ;-)) I bought two amplitons and 2x bitrman to have a backup if one would fail in the future, this would be a real loss... Think I will never need a real synthesizer - my CP33 piano sounds like a synthesiser with these two - and in combination with metavox and philtre there's nothing it can't do ... ...well, maybe synchronisation via midi would be nice and a functioning digital interface (it's a pity it doesn't work the way it was meant) - so I have to use the analog i/o - but still love them! Rick, do you know a workaround for the digital "crackling" when putting two or three in digital a row? I bought two rackmount kits for three modfx units each, but at the moment I can only use two per kit, as three only fit in when putting digitally together. Loved to hear from someone who adores these little boxes like I do :-))) Dirk RICK WALKER schrieb: > These things are really amazing, and really stunning that noone went > for them in the first place > and jaw dropping that they cleared them out so cheaply. > > I think I have all of them, they are bitchen except the > Phaser which never worked for me. I took so long to unpack that one > (they were $40 fer chrissake) that it was out of warranty when I > discovered it was defective, lol > > The one noone talks much about that I adore is the tremelo unit, the > Ampliton. > I've never seen any tremelo do what it does. > > You can set a square wave tremelo to run through another one and then > vary > the rates which are mathematically linked to each other 4,2,1, 1/2, > 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32. > You can switch these rates out in real time and they stay synced. > > You can do some trippy real time rhythmic stuff with it and then have > the second tremelo > square waving the results............................very f*ckin' hip!!!! > > Then there's the Bitr-man..................................wow, what > a wonderful gnarl machine that is. > > A Bitr-man (or god forbid, two) in the hands of Michael Klobuchar and > nonone even knows what will > happen to western civilization next. > > Pure chaos or the second coming..................it's any bodies guess. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 14:52:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B2413BEFB; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=hjh1rF5VKGleve7Py65eRhYiycMfOSqZgqYJX0U505+E70JOK4emSKud2EpTWTbCsWneB03W5YWncH1Puh8LLXKUXWKC+QWMQ/UTXVHdbvuMhSHvvApKWODmdje3eib42eB2fmI0Q/F5dGAx/RwKRgaPoAn+brJ2CaN6UCNbUVU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:52:19 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopy Llama in Live 5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6c521692fe2d6d94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:52:22 +0000 (UTC) > Yes, you're right about the visual monitoring problem with Augustus > Loop. The plug-in window is so big. Last year I was thinking about > fixing a "shell" in Max for displaying Augustus parameter status. You may have noticed that my other plug-ins have resizeable GUIs. This is something I'm considering for Augustus, along with a loop waveform display. Is this something I should consider high priority? Another possibility is to be able to toggle the GUI between 'full' and 'reduced' modes. Would that be useful? If so, which parameters should be included in the 'reduced' mode? cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 14:55:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F8A23BF02; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:55:19 -0600 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ModFX on ebay References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0701-0, 01/03/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-Information: http://wtxs.net/support/spam.php Please contact the Texas Communications at 800-299-6962 for more information X-TexComm-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: josh@infinivert.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:55:35 +0000 (UTC) I have the FAZE unit, but somehow lost the power supply in a recent move, and it won't run on batteries. Sniff, sniff! I say we petition Alesis to re-release the units! --Josh RICK WALKER wrote: > These things are really amazing, and really stunning that noone went > for them in the first place > and jaw dropping that they cleared them out so cheaply. > > I think I have all of them, they are bitchen except the > Phaser which never worked for me. I took so long to unpack that one > (they were $40 fer chrissake) that it was out of warranty when I > discovered it was defective, lol > > The one noone talks much about that I adore is the tremelo unit, the > Ampliton. > I've never seen any tremelo do what it does. > > You can set a square wave tremelo to run through another one and then > vary > the rates which are mathematically linked to each other 4,2,1, 1/2, > 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32. > You can switch these rates out in real time and they stay synced. > > You can do some trippy real time rhythmic stuff with it and then have > the second tremelo > square waving the results............................very f*ckin' hip!!!! > > Then there's the Bitr-man..................................wow, what > a wonderful gnarl machine that is. > > A Bitr-man (or god forbid, two) in the hands of Michael Klobuchar and > nonone even knows what will > happen to western civilization next. > > Pure chaos or the second coming..................it's any bodies guess. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 14:59:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B49D43BF08; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=RWYQaG/J4oWGJro87ZR4LBS1U0i6yIF/fXlC9+OzlwlWoe0pgWrCQC3vneu215P5ApiEK+u+6LI9/EHSmZPTkP2FF9HUu7MYtfKPC0teQbheAx6yiAAZ0vE3bjePD62vgnNitwtVCuZJoTnK5xQdFKEhgkUNa4bTc6IHurciBUA= In-Reply-To: <01d801c7300e$77f85fb0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <20070104095716.8DDB45794E@smtp.nildram.co.uk> <01d801c7300e$77f85fb0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <32749C5F-7818-474D-BB0B-16935F130512@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:59:01 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <8AFfe.A.RaE.5YRnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:59:05 +0000 (UTC) On 4 jan 2007, at 15.41, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I see tube amps in museums, with model Ts, computers the size of =20 > rooms, and two-headed cows. L-O-L! I'm not a vintage purist but to my ears the dinosaurs sound =20 differently compared to SS based gear. At least when talking electric =20= guitar amplification. When recording guitar tones for digital sound =20 designer products pitched at professional DAW based producers I have =20 found that a virtual guitar sample instrument boosted by software amp/=20= cab modeling plug-ins sounds a little better if the original guitar =20 was played through a 3x12AX7A top before digitized. However, as told, =20= myself I prefer my SS Gallien-Kr=FCger, not for the sound but for the =20= accurate timing response. But I have not looked deeply into this, so =20 maybe my tube amp would respond with a better feel if I was using 10" =20= speakers with it? (I doubt that though) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 15:00:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21BF03BF0C; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 586618618 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:00:49 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B8DA@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. thread-index: AccwER6vI1zHrbYwSgaG9FtInN+JUw== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2007 15:00:49.0333 (UTC) FILETIME=[1ED6F650:01C73011] Resent-Message-ID: <_AUMwB.A.BkE.iaRnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:00:50 +0000 (UTC) >>And then, just like we make designer jeans that are already = pre-ripped,=20 faded, and fringed, we'll create new SS DSP amps with dings in them, old = smoke smell, and a couple of fake tubes in the back that light up like=20 christmas trees....oh, and we'll put led in the bottom of the amp so it=20 weighs as much as a tube amp too, so they can continue to break their = backs=20 and rupture their disks if they want to.<< I think you mean "lead" (as in Pb) not "led"..... but the point is made. = in fact, fender have been dressing reissue (tube) amps like this for = some time- there's a thing called the pro-junior or mini-champ (or maybe = that's a pen-knife?) with a coffee-ring on it. this, presumably, is more = politically correct than a whisky ring or a cigarette burn. the g-media m-tron mellotron VST plug-in is also equipped with such = markings, almost as if my own m400 was the only one they'd seen. most = 'trons are kept pristine by their proud owners, but mine is, I'm happy = to report, fantastically messed up with stickers & coffee stains. d. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 15:07:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A81B73BF02; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <021901c73012$00e264d0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20070104095716.8DDB45794E@smtp.nildram.co.uk> <01d801c7300e$77f85fb0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <32749C5F-7818-474D-BB0B-16935F130512@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 08:07:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Agreed...indeed different. Though I think 20-50 years will engender indifference to these differences. :) There are vintage SS amps, as you suggest below to. I emailed on of my favorite jazz guitarists last week, Lorne Lofsky, to ask him what he was using...and he said he was using one of those old Yamaha SS amps...like the G-50 or G-100. K- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. On 4 jan 2007, at 15.41, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I see tube amps in museums, with model Ts, computers the size of rooms, > and two-headed cows. L-O-L! I'm not a vintage purist but to my ears the dinosaurs sound differently compared to SS based gear. At least when talking electric guitar amplification. When recording guitar tones for digital sound designer products pitched at professional DAW based producers I have found that a virtual guitar sample instrument boosted by software amp/ cab modeling plug-ins sounds a little better if the original guitar was played through a 3x12AX7A top before digitized. However, as told, myself I prefer my SS Gallien-Krüger, not for the sound but for the accurate timing response. But I have not looked deeply into this, so maybe my tube amp would respond with a better feel if I was using 10" speakers with it? (I doubt that though) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 15:25:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8848E3BEEA; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=jialSV1bdnC+7H8H7RZNNW62ji8XlTcQQ+WDP9h7UgOCXwweYGX0uNwapu7XwaNKDD12+gAQTOPwkEaR0WoIAA66nzDmpCC/Fb6kM3Ldp3xWPO9UO5zYhMNRasLH6/ZW/LcBWL8YCOQuWTD+t6XUWlbV5ZOqe6mvov/7aBuS8xs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <210D9AE2-8592-46DA-A39F-C07687B3E0D4@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Augustus Looper GUI (Re: Loopy Llama in Live 5.2) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:25:26 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <18LzKC.A.GqF.rxRnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:25:31 +0000 (UTC) On 4 jan 2007, at 15.52, Os wrote: > You may have noticed that my other plug-ins have resizeable GUIs. This > is something I'm considering for Augustus, along with a loop waveform > display. Is this something I should consider high priority? What would be really useful is a GUI that displays all instances if Augustus Loop; waveform plus playback position pointer for each instance. For examples look at SooperLooper (when running it with many loops) or Apple's AU-Looper. > Another possibility is to be able to toggle the GUI between 'full' and > 'reduced' modes. Would that be useful? Yes!!!!!! > If so, which parameters should > be included in the 'reduced' mode? Tap Rec Tap Length Freeze Loop Input Effect Master Feedback Fade Reverse Triplet Beat Divisor As for myself, these are in essence the parameters I use when looping; the parameters I control by external MIDI while playing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 15:31:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5BCB3BEF0; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:31:25 +0100 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ModFX on ebay References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> In-Reply-To: <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Yes, a re-release with 'small' modifications (like sync via Midi) would be great... or maybe one 19" big box which includes ampliton, bitrman and philtre (with the same user interface for each) with midi. Because of the sync thing.... I'm just thinking about an Electrix Mo-FX - maybe it can do some of the things the ampliton does? I think it's interesting, that their names sound so similar: Alesis MODFX series Electrix Mo-FX hmm.... Dirk Joshua Carroll schrieb: > I have the FAZE unit, but somehow lost the power supply in a recent > move, and it won't run on batteries. Sniff, sniff! > > I say we petition Alesis to re-release the units! > > --Josh > > > > RICK WALKER wrote: >> These things are really amazing, and really stunning that noone went >> for them in the first place >> and jaw dropping that they cleared them out so cheaply. >> >> I think I have all of them, they are bitchen except the >> Phaser which never worked for me. I took so long to unpack that one >> (they were $40 fer chrissake) that it was out of warranty when I >> discovered it was defective, lol >> >> The one noone talks much about that I adore is the tremelo unit, the >> Ampliton. >> I've never seen any tremelo do what it does. >> >> You can set a square wave tremelo to run through another one and then >> vary >> the rates which are mathematically linked to each other 4,2,1, 1/2, >> 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32. >> You can switch these rates out in real time and they stay synced. >> >> You can do some trippy real time rhythmic stuff with it and then have >> the second tremelo >> square waving the results............................very f*ckin' >> hip!!!! >> >> Then there's the Bitr-man..................................wow, >> what a wonderful gnarl machine that is. >> >> A Bitr-man (or god forbid, two) in the hands of Michael Klobuchar and >> nonone even knows what will >> happen to western civilization next. >> >> Pure chaos or the second coming..................it's any bodies guess. >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 15:40:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 380453BEF7; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <459D1FD7.1040507@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:40:07 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. References: <20070104095716.8DDB45794E@smtp.nildram.co.uk> <01d801c7300e$77f85fb0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <01d801c7300e$77f85fb0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Like drum machines replaced drummers...and the Fender Precision replaced acoustic basses (now there's a backbreaker)...and synths replaced nine-foot grands. Replacement will happen to some degree (already has, obviously), but there's an indescribable element to the "real thing" that ensures its continued life. And unlike, say, 2" tape machines that require so much space, maintenance and expensive tape, I don't think the downsides of tube amps are great enough to lead to their general replacement (especially when boutique companies keep popping up, creating new amps and and selling well). When my light, little '66 Princeton gives me precisely the tone/feel that I want - and which many people, it seems, also like - I'd never choose something that's more complicated (and harder to fix) which strives only to fake the real thing. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > That's great to hear, and I imagine it will only get better in the > future too. Next thing you know, we'll be doing blind tests with the > tube purists, but spraying "old amp" spray on new SS DSP amps to fool > their noses too. And then, just like we make designer jeans that are > already pre-ripped, faded, and fringed, we'll create new SS DSP amps > with dings in them, old smoke smell, and a couple of fake tubes in the > back that light up like christmas trees....oh, and we'll put led in > the bottom of the amp so it weighs as much as a tube amp too, so they > can continue to break their backs and rupture their disks if they want > to. > > Some day, the dinosaurs will go instinct...maybe not in the next few > decades, but very soon relatively speaking in the timeline of > technology and human development. I see tube amps in museums, with > model Ts, computers the size of rooms, and two-headed cows. > > K- > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fluke" > To: ; > <"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"@arsenic.violacea.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:57 AM > Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. > > >> Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years experiance >> behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and guitar >> player) without too much trouble... >> ...but only until the blindfolds come off. >> >> Nik >> >> --------- Original Message -------- >> From: donh@mindspring.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. >> Date: 02/01/07 19:37 >> >>> >>> Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... >>> >>> > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >>> >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a SS >> amp that >>> >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. >>> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 15:48:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 082E03BF0A; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0txsPvlCyvM3xaOS/xZw5sxTihvezelcfA46AWBf5AbHM8KvswRI8UGdC9i80nSBYArZzZt+E+hAst8hUKrYATYLmR5ujGHMXuhloJqmncGdk4gLG/v6+l80vr1Bv3urzXJSgwMVqwsMy2kl1BeYFQSf3jG6f3JVpYVK69VQiw0= ; Message-ID: <20070104154808.69680.qmail@web27711.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hqQPS90VM1llOXJ8YCXQt5uprJY.0jWHHj0AYvoXaFWvZAsRKCWdTbGt_k2FJzzMNw-- Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:48:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Tony Douglas Subject: Augustus Loop's GUI (was Re: Loopy Llama in Live 5.2) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:48:09 +0000 (UTC) To be honest, I wasn't complaining too hard about the Augustus Loop GUI; there are loads of parameters to control, and the GUI is much better than Live's folded view of the parameters. That said, it's also really good to be able to view several instances at once, as you can with SooperLooper. Typical - we want everything, and then some ;) ! --- Os wrote: > You may have noticed that my other plug-ins have resizeable GUIs. > This is something I'm considering for Augustus, along with a loop > waveform display. Is this something I should consider high > priority? > I seem to prefer using my ears to a loop waveform display, even with samplers - I never seem to trim just right until I just ignore the display completely. That said, others may like to have it. > Another possibility is to be able to toggle the GUI between 'full' and > 'reduced' modes. Would that be useful? If so, which parameters > should be included in the 'reduced' mode? > At the moment, you can "skin" AL by replacing the graphics for the controls and backdrop - maybe, taking the skin idea further to allow for custom sets of controls, along with a switch to see the full GUI, would be an option ? That way you could customise the GUI to see the controls that are useful for a particular situation rather than committing to a particular subset. > > cheers, > os. > Cheers ! - Tony Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 15:59:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 104123BF13; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <01d801c7300e$77f85fb0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <20070104095716.8DDB45794E@smtp.nildram.co.uk> <01d801c7300e$77f85fb0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-640572759 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 07:58:53 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <1UFckD.A.TIH.SRSnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:59:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-640572759 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 4-Jan-07, at 6:41 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I see tube amps in museums, with model Ts, computers the size of > rooms, and two-headed cows. and photos of all the bone headed people who couldn't hear the difference between an Ipod/mp3 recording of a train and the one coming at them! :) Sorry. Just jazzing you! I've tried and owned lots of amps new and old. There is only ONE that sounds the way I want it to sound. I don't give a shirt if it's old or new, vintage or Wal Mart. I just care about the sound. If someone can find me an amp that costs no more than the one I have that does the job I will most certainly BUY IT! Now, I could get a Victoria amp - and I hear they're nice. But they cost a LOT more than my old Panaramic/Magnatone. Why should I buy it? Same with AER amps. For what I would pay for some of the new amps I have been told I would like, I could buy TWO of my fave vintage amps - which I am in the process of doing. Total cost $1,040 USD. Anvil flight cases & spare NOS tubes are extra. I was in another studio recently and they had ALL the groovy old amps. Tried em all. Didn't like 'em for what I WANT. As Ravi Shankar should have once said when he first heard a shrutti box, "Close, but no sitar!!" It took me a long time to step away from the digital marketing modern hype 'technology is always improving' machine and hear for myself. I've tried tons of effects boxes and tube guitar pre's etc. All I can say is there is a sweet spot - and this is certainly a matter of taste - that, once you find it, you say "Eureka!" In my case, it's a 1960 PANaramic amp and Phillips parlor resonator guitar. Old Echoplex and volume pedal. (I might eventually trade my Echoplex for a Fulltone echo.) I have a nice collection of old guitars. I currently use the newest guitar I have because it sounds how I want it to sound. This Christmas I gave my daughter my 1969 Martin D35 that John Fahey said was the best sounding Martin he'd ever played. Why? Well... I love my daughter, but also, as killer as it is, It's not the sound I want. I know what I want and I hear it and I'm satisfied. No more purchases necessary. Why do so many guys who master the hits and have enough money to buy the most advanced Prism etc converters and the latest of anything keep using old technology and so forcefully dis plug ins? Read it in the new Mix Magazine - interviews with mastering wizards. Now, I USE THE WAVES Ultramaximizer because I just can't AFFORD some of that stuff, or the Dunleavy speakers etc. I send music to THEM when it really counts. I KNOW you can get sort of close with the Waves Ultramaximizer, but when your rolling next to the Corvettes, you wanna make sure your Smart Car is as well tuned as can be. Now, interestingly, in the SAME issue of MIX where 4 out of 4 mastering engineers emphatically say they very rarely use plug ins because they don't like them, in the next article MIX reviews all the latest mastering plug ins with glowing reports. What's up with that? I think it's called advertising dollars and knowing what their audience wants to (and can afford to) hear. I use an old Mackie D8B that's completely digital - eq's, compressors and all. It works for me for now. I think a lot of this stuff is financial. I'm looking at a big upgrade to the studio. To SSL or not to SSL? How many more hundreds of thousands of dollars should I spend? I have HUGE DREAD of hype because I've dumped so much money into HYPE holes. Both vintage and the latest technology. It takes a very clear and open mind to sort through all the marketing and dig your way out of the hype holes - and it comes from all directions - vintage, transistor, software etc. The advantage of vintage stuff is it increases in value - at least for now. But my old Jupiter 8 is finally worth what I paid for it. I wouldn't sell it for twice that. I like the sound. So today's Roland could be tomorrows Telefunken! It's all about ears and there are no easy conclusions, with or without them. Oh! Not completely true! If you don't notice the hype holes, just keep walking and you'll fall right on in - no effort or listening required. Vintage or Not. If plug ins work for you, and they sometimes do for me, then Hari Bol! But I think our goal on this list or any information watering hole is to inspire inquiry at the root level - the ears in this case. To find the technology that does what our ears are longing to hear. And the more you use them, the more finely tuned they get. There are no easy across the board answers. Wise the man who doesn't defend himself when not being attacked R > > K- > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fluke" > To: ; > <"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"@arsenic.violacea.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:57 AM > Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. > > >> Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years experiance >> behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and guitar >> player) without too much trouble... >> ...but only until the blindfolds come off. >> >> Nik >> >> --------- Original Message -------- >> From: donh@mindspring.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. >> Date: 02/01/07 19:37 >> >>> >>> Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... >>> >>> > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >>> >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a >>> SS >> amp that >>> >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. >>> > >>> >>> >> >> ________________________________________________ >> Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 >> > --Apple-Mail-3-640572759 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII On 4-Jan-07, at 6:41 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: I see tube amps in museums, with model Ts, computers the size of rooms, and two-headed cows. and photos of all the bone headed people who couldn't hear the difference between an Ipod/mp3 recording of a train and the one coming at them! :) Sorry. Just jazzing you! I've tried and owned lots of amps new and old. There is only ONE that sounds the way I want it to sound. I don't give a shirt if it's old or new, vintage or Wal Mart. I just care about the sound. If someone can find me an amp that costs no more than the one I have that does the job I will most certainly BUY IT! Now, I could get a Victoria amp - and I hear they're nice. But they cost a LOT more than my old Panaramic/Magnatone. Why should I buy it? Same with AER amps. For what I would pay for some of the new amps I have been told I would like, I could buy TWO of my fave vintage amps - which I am in the process of doing. Total cost $1,040 USD. Anvil flight cases & spare NOS tubes are extra. I was in another studio recently and they had ALL the groovy old amps. Tried em all. Didn't like 'em for what I WANT. As Ravi Shankar should have once said when he first heard a shrutti box, "Close, but no sitar!!" It took me a long time to step away from the digital marketing modern hype 'technology is always improving' machine and hear for myself. I've tried tons of effects boxes and tube guitar pre's etc. All I can say is there is a sweet spot - and this is certainly a matter of taste - that, once you find it, you say "Eureka!" In my case, it's a 1960 PANaramic amp and Phillips parlor resonator guitar. Old Echoplex and volume pedal. (I might eventually trade my Echoplex for a Fulltone echo.) I have a nice collection of old guitars. I currently use the newest guitar I have because it sounds how I want it to sound. This Christmas I gave my daughter my 1969 Martin D35 that John Fahey said was the best sounding Martin he'd ever played. Why? Well... I love my daughter, but also, as killer as it is, It's not the sound I want. I know what I want and I hear it and I'm satisfied. No more purchases necessary. Why do so many guys who master the hits and have enough money to buy the most advanced Prism etc converters and the latest of anything keep using old technology and so forcefully dis plug ins? Read it in the new Mix Magazine - interviews with mastering wizards. Now, I USE THE WAVES Ultramaximizer because I just can't AFFORD some of that stuff, or the Dunleavy speakers etc. I send music to THEM when it really counts. I KNOW you can get sort of close with the Waves Ultramaximizer, but when your rolling next to the Corvettes, you wanna make sure your Smart Car is as well tuned as can be. Now, interestingly, in the SAME issue of MIX where 4 out of 4 mastering engineers emphatically say they very rarely use plug ins because they don't like them, in the next article MIX reviews all the latest mastering plug ins with glowing reports. What's up with that? I think it's called advertising dollars and knowing what their audience wants to (and can afford to) hear. I use an old Mackie D8B that's completely digital - eq's, compressors and all. It works for me for now. I think a lot of this stuff is financial. I'm looking at a big upgrade to the studio. To SSL or not to SSL? How many more hundreds of thousands of dollars should I spend? I have HUGE DREAD of hype because I've dumped so much money into HYPE holes. Both vintage and the latest technology. It takes a very clear and open mind to sort through all the marketing and dig your way out of the hype holes - and it comes from all directions - vintage, transistor, software etc. The advantage of vintage stuff is it increases in value - at least for now. But my old Jupiter 8 is finally worth what I paid for it. I wouldn't sell it for twice that. I like the sound. So today's Roland could be tomorrows Telefunken! It's all about ears and there are no easy conclusions, with or without them. Oh! Not completely true! If you don't notice the hype holes, just keep walking and you'll fall right on in - no effort or listening required. Vintage or Not. If plug ins work for you, and they sometimes do for me, then Hari Bol! But I think our goal on this list or any information watering hole is to inspire inquiry at the root level - the ears in this case. To find the technology that does what our ears are longing to hear. And the more you use them, the more finely tuned they get. There are no easy across the board answers. Wise the man who doesn't defend himself when not being attacked R K- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fluke" < To: <; <<"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"@arsenic.violacea.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:57 AM Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years experiance behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and guitar player) without too much trouble... ...but only until the blindfolds come off. Nik --------- Original Message -------- From: donh@mindspring.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com < Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: 02/01/07 19:37 Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a SS amp that >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. > ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 --Apple-Mail-3-640572759-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 16:00:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00D4E3BF0B; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <459D1FD7.1040507@mhorse.com> References: <20070104095716.8DDB45794E@smtp.nildram.co.uk> <01d801c7300e$77f85fb0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <459D1FD7.1040507@mhorse.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-640654319 Message-Id: <468298cd597650100ad3c733f13a343a@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: OT: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 08:00:15 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:00:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-640654319 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed There you go! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 4-Jan-07, at 7:40 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Like drum machines replaced drummers...and the Fender Precision > replaced acoustic basses (now there's a backbreaker)...and synths > replaced nine-foot grands. Replacement will happen to some degree > (already has, obviously), but there's an indescribable element to the > "real thing" that ensures its continued life. And unlike, say, 2" tape > machines that require so much space, maintenance and expensive tape, I > don't think the downsides of tube amps are great enough to lead to > their general replacement (especially when boutique companies keep > popping up, creating new amps and and selling well). When my light, > little '66 Princeton gives me precisely the tone/feel that I want - > and which many people, it seems, also like - I'd never choose > something that's more complicated (and harder to fix) which strives > only to fake the real thing. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > >> That's great to hear, and I imagine it will only get better in the >> future too. Next thing you know, we'll be doing blind tests with the >> tube purists, but spraying "old amp" spray on new SS DSP amps to fool >> their noses too. And then, just like we make designer jeans that are >> already pre-ripped, faded, and fringed, we'll create new SS DSP amps >> with dings in them, old smoke smell, and a couple of fake tubes in >> the back that light up like christmas trees....oh, and we'll put led >> in the bottom of the amp so it weighs as much as a tube amp too, so >> they can continue to break their backs and rupture their disks if >> they want to. >> >> Some day, the dinosaurs will go instinct...maybe not in the next few >> decades, but very soon relatively speaking in the timeline of >> technology and human development. I see tube amps in museums, with >> model Ts, computers the size of rooms, and two-headed cows. >> >> K- >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fluke" >> To: ; >> <"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"@arsenic.violacea.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:57 AM >> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. >> >> >>> Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years >>> experiance >>> behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and >>> guitar >>> player) without too much trouble... >>> ...but only until the blindfolds come off. >>> >>> Nik >>> >>> --------- Original Message -------- >>> From: donh@mindspring.com >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> >>> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. >>> Date: 02/01/07 19:37 >>> >>>> >>>> Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... >>>> >>>> > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >>>> >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing >>>> a SS >>> amp that >>>> >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. >>>> > > --Apple-Mail-4-640654319 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII There you go! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 4-Jan-07, at 7:40 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: Like drum machines replaced drummers...and the Fender Precision replaced acoustic basses (now there's a backbreaker)...and synths replaced nine-foot grands. Replacement will happen to some degree (already has, obviously), but there's an indescribable element to the "real thing" that ensures its continued life. And unlike, say, 2" tape machines that require so much space, maintenance and expensive tape, I don't think the downsides of tube amps are great enough to lead to their general replacement (especially when boutique companies keep popping up, creating new amps and and selling well). When my light, little '66 Princeton gives me precisely the tone/feel that I want - and which many people, it seems, also like - I'd never choose something that's more complicated (and harder to fix) which strives only to fake the real thing. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com That's great to hear, and I imagine it will only get better in the future too. Next thing you know, we'll be doing blind tests with the tube purists, but spraying "old amp" spray on new SS DSP amps to fool their noses too. And then, just like we make designer jeans that are already pre-ripped, faded, and fringed, we'll create new SS DSP amps with dings in them, old smoke smell, and a couple of fake tubes in the back that light up like christmas trees....oh, and we'll put led in the bottom of the amp so it weighs as much as a tube amp too, so they can continue to break their backs and rupture their disks if they want to. Some day, the dinosaurs will go instinct...maybe not in the next few decades, but very soon relatively speaking in the timeline of technology and human development. I see tube amps in museums, with model Ts, computers the size of rooms, and two-headed cows. K- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fluke" < To: <; <<"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"@arsenic.violacea.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:57 AM Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years experiance behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and guitar player) without too much trouble... ...but only until the blindfolds come off. Nik --------- Original Message -------- From: donh@mindspring.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com < Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: 02/01/07 19:37 Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a SS amp that >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. > --Apple-Mail-4-640654319-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 16:15:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB2143BF00; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=FtgeSWaFdZlCwcuxGSGyV6Fw9plFPOjAdwcPKzxADi2Io6nSnmpZ2JEzvpcFT2dEKA0fnVYOYaGTseRfGrgs/ibnUhIoW49ypx4OQDuspsixsA8NWCPBkC38CS6uPOiW5cCLMYj+ox7YLqNx6Us3zGEwIkq4S1bnN/Vu7QZiYm0= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:15:44 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Augustus Looper GUI (Re: Loopy Llama in Live 5.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3d432a719341f7be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:15:45 +0000 (UTC) > From: Per Boysen > > What would be really useful is a GUI that displays all instances if > Augustus Loop; waveform plus playback position pointer for each > instance. For examples look at SooperLooper (when running it with > many loops) or Apple's AU-Looper. Interesting... that would completely violate the usual rules of plug-in hosting, but I'm not adverse to that (e.g. Augustus's MIDI output). > > Another possibility is to be able to toggle the GUI between 'full' and > > 'reduced' modes. Would that be useful? > > Yes!!!!!! I'll take that as a yes. ;) > From: Tony Douglas > > To be honest, I wasn't complaining too hard about the > Augustus Loop GUI; there are loads of parameters to > control, and the GUI is much better than Live's folded > view of the parameters. That said, it's also really > good to be able to view several instances at once, as > you can with SooperLooper. Typical - we want > everything, and then some ;) ! OK, that's two votes for... I'll look into it when I get time. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 17:05:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B2DB3BEE9; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Tu9tfgRjGOjkF73C2IAE6NzM+V6MtN4ydGUUw023aBT3Br7CyilvsgIEG1HiToo97VJ67/jPPyLPFbsr3esnR01/v9+AM4ZcvS6zmokj0dgjPvESQUEYTsqh9GBI+6DlGIgYnIUShAZJQp8CF4GKcIM/RofY0O01d2+cggZefek= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:05:19 -0500 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP For Sale ($600)!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:05:21 +0000 (UTC) I have a blackface Echoplex Digital Pro Plus for sale. Its running Loop IV and has full memory. I bought the unit exactly two years ago. Everything is in perfect working condition, the unit has a slight surface scratch on the top (if you rack it you wont even see it). Comes with original manual. $600 + shipping (probably $30) gets it to your door. I am a long time LD member but have been unsubscribed for sometime cause I could not deal with 20 emails a day and important emails where getting lost in the herd! However I still check the archive from time to time to keep up. Payment can be made through paypal or money order. Also, I live in NYC, if you live in NYC as well or can make it to NYC that would be even simpler and would save money on shipping. Anyone interested email me off list. I will give it a few days and see if any you guys want it and if not I guess I will go to ebay. -Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 17:30:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59C1D3BEE9; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iWuLLny3WwuAB6VwJ07MPuL5LaUpmj0tfirUTPk+0ndiiNuZuHxVGstjqTbf31NO0C2FsFENPJQ5wmjr8bJ7tCh/FnMfoI740NtvTwVJHq/Pi2ftT+T6tezlGjn33+xmaaSttC2SM4btr6n5I0sUnRy/3jcCeMmCsexIbc1ereQ= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:30:16 -0600 From: "Jon Southwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. In-Reply-To: <00d801c72ede$3cb39d10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10706_3052093.1167931816973" References: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00d801c72ede$3cb39d10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:30:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10706_3052093.1167931816973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry, Rick, but this isn't quite right. The 6th partial is an octave above the 3rd partial, not another repeat of the octaves of the fundamental. In other words, it is two octaves plus a 5th above the fundamental. The even partials are all octave shifts of odd (or other even) partials. Because of this, if only the even partials are present (with the addition of the single odd-numbered partial in the form of the fundamental), it takes us more space to get to the more dissonant partials. In other words, if the 7th partial is the first that we'd consider a dissonant contributor (debatable), then instead of that partial being two octaves and a minor 7th (roughly) above the fundamental, our evens-only set doesn't contribute it until another octave higher, so it's that much farther away from the fundamental which further softens the potential dissonant impact. The 9th partial (roughly 3 octaves and a major 2nd) doesn't contribute until yet another octave higher. The more octaves that separate a partial from its fundamental, the softer its 'dissonant' contribution. This will hold whether it's a case of "only even numbered partials are present" or "even numbered partials are emphasized." Cheers, Jon Southwood On 1/2/07, RICK WALKER wrote: > > Dear Margaret, > > > If we take just the first harmonics in this natural series we > get > > F H1 H2 H3 > H4 H5...........etc. > 1st 2nd 3rd 4th > 5th 6th > Fund Octave Oct+5th next Octave next+3rd > next Octave > > As you can see, the even harmonics are all octaves. > Because of this, they are consonant, harmonically, with the origial > Fundamental frequency and > sound smoother and more 'harmonious' to our ears. > > ------=_Part_10706_3052093.1167931816973 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry, Rick, but this isn't quite right. The 6th partial is an octave above the 3rd partial, not another repeat of the octaves of the fundamental. In other words, it is two octaves plus a 5th above the fundamental. The even partials are all octave shifts of odd (or other even) partials.

Because of this, if only the even partials are present (with the addition of the single odd-numbered partial in the form of the fundamental), it takes us more space to get to the more dissonant partials. In other words, if the 7th partial is the first that we'd consider a dissonant contributor (debatable), then instead of that partial being two octaves and a minor 7th (roughly) above the fundamental, our evens-only set doesn't contribute it until another octave higher, so it's that much farther away from the fundamental which further softens the potential dissonant impact. The 9th partial (roughly 3 octaves and a major 2nd) doesn't contribute until yet another octave higher.

The more octaves that separate a partial from its fundamental, the softer its 'dissonant' contribution. This will hold whether it's a case of "only even numbered partials are present" or "even numbered partials are emphasized."

Cheers,

Jon Southwood


On 1/2/07, RICK WALKER <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Dear Margaret,


If we take just the first harmonics in this natural series we
get

F             H1                  H2                    H3
H4              H5...........etc.
1st           2nd                3rd                    4th
5th              6th
Fund       Octave        Oct+5th         next Octave        next+3rd
next Octave

As you can see,  the even harmonics are all octaves.
Because of this,  they are consonant, harmonically,  with the origial
Fundamental frequency and
sound smoother and more 'harmonious' to our ears.


------=_Part_10706_3052093.1167931816973-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 18:55:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A3B83BEDB; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 18:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:54:34 -0500 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Per Boysen , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <003701c73031$caecdd40$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <32749C5F-7818-474D-BB0B-16935F130512@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 18:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote: > L-O-L! I'm not a vintage purist but to my ears the dinosaurs sound > differently compared to SS based gear. My thoughts on SS vs. tubes will appear soon, if not already, but regarding: > myself I prefer my SS Gallien-Krüger, not for the sound but for the > accurate timing response. But I have not looked deeply into this, so > maybe my tube amp would respond with a better feel if I was using 10" > speakers with it? (I doubt that though) I don't doubt it at all. I would highly reccommend trying different speakers for live work, particularly with those "dinosaur" tube amps. Not only is there the complex mojo of the speaker/transformer interaction, but I find that differences as small as 1 or 2 dB in frequency response will translate to moderately different feels and responses when used in a live setting. Speaker swapping is an expensive habit, but when you can do it, try it. Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "Life! Life! Clouds and clowns! 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just a quick note: for xmas i got the video (yes, video!)-adrian belew: electronic guitar...
i know there's been mention of this on the list before....
some really cool stuff he demos (this was made in 1984, released in '85) from his
1st 2 solo albums and a couple of early king crimson things...he also does a brief bit
showing what his e-h 16 sec digital delay can do....i thought it was pretty cool, wish
he would have done more showing the looping stuff, but understand it was demoing his
range of playing and how he used effects...and his 2 racks are full of all the old analog
stuff i used to dream about when i first started playing back in the early 80's....even
though this is 20+ yrs old, still quite interesting and i learned some things....makes me
wish i still had his early albums on tape (lost them in some move!).
oh well....happy looping and new yr to all...
s---

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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1865701782-1167945058=:63133-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 21:21:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 101783BEE8; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=IyoBm1zFJWHYMHtQd5dQ4XaSzJ92rrpPW8PMKhUbnmHZsfq7zWwtZBWcLK7X2BAjB7H7w1MtiuUsFFyfojEExUC45d8RIW4SIvLNR9qpuP6HJfmMIgeWBHT7UkaD2SRiYpTKQUIpy1vWdXAtMGTa4cXokzMTkq7yWwzOhwdEAXA=; X-YMail-OSG: I_HuTsMVM1nn_2Dt7bXKIoPhd7jtsCXiQBe4gnxOTkHGxuCDzaZogE02DoUn9mie12UxIXaw2CkyDAuZw2eoRYWtT2KGhCSkCbGYX3sqvaxgEPtSJ_.wFg-- Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:21:51 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: OT: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <468298cd597650100ad3c733f13a343a@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <306032.1800.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Yes!! i remeber those original killer good ol´ american levis jeans i used to buy at the swapmeet!they would look almost black although they were blue and ridiculous big when they were new,but you´d have to wash them about 5 times for them to become soft and shrink to your size! but they were so good they´d last you at least ten years! yes lots of things are prewashed nowdays... Luis Next thing you know, we'll be doing > blind tests with the > >> tube purists, but spraying "old amp" spray on new > SS DSP amps to fool > >> their noses too. And then, just like we make > designer jeans that are > >> already pre-ripped, faded, and fringed, we'll > create new SS DSP amps > >> with dings in them, old smoke smell, and a couple > of fake tubes in > >> the back that light up like christmas > trees.... www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 21:34:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE9B13BEF5; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=YWmK9urZlyBU28nLIIdMLqn/J4TKHr79kqxQok6K+9dTOEe0/ml9zhYxOtyPO7FBhHtKAwaCLgijdfpCn0+4UQijN997snk8pjcwRoFLtm/M3DballT4xWqIHo30/WCrL7SQzKKZrnrjcTa9aGGw0rKa1kpCEn0fxs8nnij3hYg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:34:19 -0600 From: "Jebus McLoopie" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Oberhiem EDP for sale $450USD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Loop III 198 sec. comes with footpedal for details please email me From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 21:40:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F7BD3BEF0; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YhSrweCspnN4A9VcaZnfSBAPqklBco2yrLUnq7+Cyrfa/x1JnPjaSavAdVdRRULt; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <21608812.1167946799571.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:39:59 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: adrian belew : electronic guitar (vhs) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48f6eb30ecce3a1ccb691fbd3f5f95fe52a8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:40:00 +0000 (UTC) yes yes-love that there vid! really bare bones tutorial but great to see him up close and personal- about the only guy who could make a jc120 juicy and liquidacious(!). really loved his early explorations of electronic guitar-i learned so much back then! maybe you should:http://www.amazon.com/Lone-Rhino-Twang-Bar-King/dp/B0002Y2GNI/sr=1-6/qid=1167946539/ref=sr_1_6/105-4096698-2617239?ie=UTF8&s=music >just a quick note: for xmas i got the video (yes, video!)-adrian belew: electronic guitar... > i know there's been mention of this on the list before.... > some really cool stuff he demos (this was made in 1984, released in '85) from his > 1st 2 solo albums and a couple of early king crimson things...he also does a brief bit > showing what his e-h 16 sec digital delay can do....i thought it was pretty cool, wish > he would have done more showing the looping stuff, but understand it was demoing his > range of playing and how he used effects...and his 2 racks are full of all the old analog > stuff i used to dream about when i first started playing back in the early 80's....even > though this is 20+ yrs old, still quite interesting and i learned some things....makes me > wish i still had his early albums on tape (lost them in some move!). > oh well....happy looping and new yr to all... > s--- > > __________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 21:46:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15A8B3BEEE; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: Looperchart: update for Boss DD-20 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:46:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c73049$c2244050$020313ac@SOVERGAAUW> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:46:26 +0000 (UTC) For Per Boysen: I have some Boss DD-20 updates for your comparison chart of looping devices. * Overdub: Yes * Undo: No * Multiply: No (if you mean copying a loop) * Presets: 4 (flash RAM) * Max number of loops: 2. Example: if preset 1 and 2 are of the same delay type, you can record 2 loop's with different length * Audio channels, Tracks: 2 * Stereo recording: Yes * Built-in storage option: No Regards, Sjaak From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 4 22:06:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A04E83BEF9; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=DYfRib2Q1lAlgvKCrVYifPFnIhuErOC9QXXZ7Xrrsbf6W41nBpFfywNrxwR0HgOECPBBEdvJXE+u4F31y68oZYkjSmhQcnmniRA+edxTeHtm8T9mhV3VXrwjwsAYyuerKi/Hw6GOQQXZd9mvdngd1rnhV3sLm0j9on4zaV/LGZw= In-Reply-To: <000001c73049$c2244050$020313ac@SOVERGAAUW> References: <000001c73049$c2244050$020313ac@SOVERGAAUW> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Looperchart: update for Boss DD-20 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 23:06:43 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:06:49 +0000 (UTC) On 4 jan 2007, at 22.46, Sjaak wrote: > For Per Boysen: I have some Boss DD-20 updates for your comparison > chart of > looping devices. > > * Overdub: Yes > * Undo: No > * Multiply: No (if you mean copying a loop) > * Presets: 4 (flash RAM) > * Max number of loops: 2. Example: if preset 1 and 2 are of the > same delay > type, you can record 2 loop's with different length > * Audio channels, Tracks: 2 > * Stereo recording: Yes > * Built-in storage option: No > > Regards, > Sjaak Thank you, Sjaak! I just updated my chart at http://www.looproom.com/ looperchart.php per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 00:03:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C35283BECF; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <022f01c7305c$c8e95d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: In Praise of Stomp Box Pedals was: ModFx on ebay Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:02:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <6mFcDB.A.oHE.VXZnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Dirk Wilbert said: "Think I will never need a real synthesizer - my CP33 piano sounds like a synthesiser with these two - and in combination with metavox and philtre there's nothing it can't do ..." I'm glad to hear someone else has this approach. Back in the New Wave days before I could afford a synthesizer I used a really cheap original Casio keyboard through guitar effects pedals. I even put a Fairlight CMI sign on it as a joke. A few weeks ago, I had a scheduled debut for my industrial middleeastern project, nO thiN -g with John Connell and Robin Jacobs (founding ex-member of Switchblade Symphony) and my main synthesizer went down AND my old Akai sampler with all the cool industrial drum sounds went down the night before the gig. I took an old Alesis QSR synth with really normal, boring sounds and ran it through a Boss Distortion pedal.........................it sounded great!!! Lets hear it for cool stomp box pedals. In fact if any one is interested I moderate a stomp box pedals tribe at tribe.net http://STOMPBOXPEDALS.tribe.net Come join me there...............it's a nice resource for finding out what's out there in any given style of pedal. We had a very nice thread on distortion pedals here while back. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 00:34:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 319683BEDC; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001c73049$c2244050$020313ac@SOVERGAAUW> References: <000001c73049$c2244050$020313ac@SOVERGAAUW> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:34:24 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Nandor Subject: Re: Looperchart: update for Boss DD-20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:34:31 +0000 (UTC) While we're at it, for the BOSS RC-2 (and FWIW, if the answer is "no" for the RC-20, it's also "no" for the RC-2, since they are almost the same machine, and the RC-2 has no features the RC-20 doesn't have): feedback: no multiply: no reverse loop: no presets: yes, I think, if by this you mean, a few of the save positions have existing rhythm loops you can use, or that it has other preset rhythms time stretching: yes, if by this you mean, you can speed up or slow down existing loops, without changing pitch (currently marked as no) While you're at it, you can also update the *RC-20XL* line to have "16 min mono" for built-in storage, 1 for audio channels, and "yes battery or AC" for can run on battery. -- Chris Nandor tunes@pudge.net http://pudge.net/tunes/ Slashdot pudge@slashdot.org http://slashdot.org/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 00:56:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F8B63BEE1; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=VnOON8XnHiRDmPTEWOKSqK1BHCItW/e8YWvn53kRm68ddXUHdIsnjfN1nw+GGhmM+4Cs6cNCvWVgm7mnD57TuOMCSHhSaGvJ9bHe3nqwEtRrMCIYu7Sseq2lyQ66aSUfxjH9PuzeTRjfamH7G8A8Huufrlpoq6u2hZSBFfbO1Ig=; X-YMail-OSG: EputADoVM1lK0o0DVrcFdSfYXyY0CNpORbOQLiLtZ4o_bB4uWx8nBs89Cs5yxP6.2w-- Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:56:30 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: In Praise of Stomp Box Pedals was: ModFx on ebay To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <022f01c7305c$c8e95d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <443271.22413.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, I joined the group, but there are many stompbox sites where your link took me. Which specific stompbox group do i post to? Thanx. Rig --- RICK WALKER wrote: > Dirk Wilbert said: > "Think I will never need a real synthesizer - my > CP33 piano sounds like a > synthesiser with these two - and in combination with > metavox and philtre > there's nothing it can't do ..." > > I'm glad to hear someone else has this approach. > Back in the New Wave days before I could afford a > synthesizer > I used a really cheap original Casio keyboard > through guitar effects > pedals. > I even put a Fairlight CMI sign on it as a joke. > > A few weeks ago, I had a scheduled debut for my > industrial middleeastern > project, > nO thiN -g with John Connell and Robin Jacobs > (founding ex-member of > Switchblade > Symphony) and my main synthesizer went down AND my > old Akai sampler with > all the cool industrial drum sounds went down the > night before the gig. > > I took an old Alesis QSR synth with really normal, > boring sounds and ran it > through a Boss Distortion > pedal.........................it sounded great!!! > > Lets hear it for cool stomp box pedals. In fact if > any one is interested I > moderate > a stomp box pedals tribe at tribe.net > http://STOMPBOXPEDALS.tribe.net > Come join me there...............it's a nice > resource for finding out what's > out there > in any given style of pedal. We had a very nice > thread on distortion pedals > here while back. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 01:17:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 431623BEEC; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 01:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <022f01c7305c$c8e95d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <022f01c7305c$c8e95d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-674072471 Message-Id: <648092ffd050f45f3aae12c0a0b998c6@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: In Praise of Stomp Box Pedals was: ModFx on ebay Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:17:13 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 01:17:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-674072471 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed One of my fave 'wild metal guitar meets Jan Hammer' sounds is my very abused Yamaha FB01 through my Digitech Twin Tube guitar pre amp. It really wails. I think I used a bass patch to do that. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 4-Jan-07, at 4:02 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: > Dirk Wilbert said: > "Think I will never need a real synthesizer - my CP33 piano sounds > like a > synthesiser with these two - and in combination with metavox and > philtre > there's nothing it can't do ..." > > I'm glad to hear someone else has this approach. > Back in the New Wave days before I could afford a synthesizer > I used a really cheap original Casio keyboard through guitar effects > pedals. > I even put a Fairlight CMI sign on it as a joke. > > A few weeks ago, I had a scheduled debut for my industrial > middleeastern project, > nO thiN -g with John Connell and Robin Jacobs (founding ex-member of > Switchblade > Symphony) and my main synthesizer went down AND my old Akai sampler > with > all the cool industrial drum sounds went down the night before the gig. > > I took an old Alesis QSR synth with really normal, boring sounds and > ran it > through a Boss Distortion pedal.........................it sounded > great!!! > > Lets hear it for cool stomp box pedals. In fact if any one is > interested I moderate > a stomp box pedals tribe at tribe.net > http://STOMPBOXPEDALS.tribe.net > Come join me there...............it's a nice resource for finding out > what's out there > in any given style of pedal. We had a very nice thread on distortion > pedals here while back. --Apple-Mail-1-674072471 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII One of my fave 'wild metal guitar meets Jan Hammer' sounds is my very abused Yamaha FB01 through my Digitech Twin Tube guitar pre amp. It really wails. I think I used a bass patch to do that. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 4-Jan-07, at 4:02 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: Dirk Wilbert said: "Think I will never need a real synthesizer - my CP33 piano sounds like a synthesiser with these two - and in combination with metavox and philtre there's nothing it can't do ..." I'm glad to hear someone else has this approach. Back in the New Wave days before I could afford a synthesizer I used a really cheap original Casio keyboard through guitar effects pedals. I even put a Fairlight CMI sign on it as a joke. A few weeks ago, I had a scheduled debut for my industrial middleeastern project, nO thiN -g with John Connell and Robin Jacobs (founding ex-member of Switchblade Symphony) and my main synthesizer went down AND my old Akai sampler with all the cool industrial drum sounds went down the night before the gig. I took an old Alesis QSR synth with really normal, boring sounds and ran it through a Boss Distortion pedal.........................it sounded great!!! Lets hear it for cool stomp box pedals. In fact if any one is interested I moderate a stomp box pedals tribe at tribe.net http://STOMPBOXPEDALS.tribe.net Come join me there...............it's a nice resource for finding out what's out there in any given style of pedal. We had a very nice thread on distortion pedals here while back. --Apple-Mail-1-674072471-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 07:09:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B8FE3BEC1; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 07:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.195] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070104194700.F402C3BEF5@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: '69 martin 69k ! Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:09:23 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2007 07:09:26.0504 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F5F7E80:01C73098] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 07:09:30 +0000 (UTC) craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 dollars. _________________________________________________________________ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place!  MSN Shopping Sales & Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 09:09:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F54C3BEC5; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 02:10:02 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:09:29 +0000 (UTC) I need to get this setup finished for a client who wants to run 8 echoplexes with 4 stereo sync'd channels basically. I think what is happening is..we're going to need some midi filtering unless there is some way I'm missing to internally filter the start recording messages :-). Because right now, when one starts, they all start or some such thing. I have to get back to it and see where we're going. It's been a few months but I need to find someone before I dig into it again who has experience running both brother sync and midi. Thanks, -Bob Weigel 406-582-5849 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 09:31:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A61F3BED0; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAN6pnUXUSnIvh2dsb2JhbACNPgEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070105091441.01a46098@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 09:31:23 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-757D6D78 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:31:16 +0000 (UTC) At 10:10 05/01/2007, you wrote: >I need to get this setup finished for a client who wants to run 8 >echoplexes with 4 stereo sync'd channels basically. > >I think what is happening is..we're going to need some midi >filtering unless there is some way I'm missing to internally filter >the start recording messages :-). Because right now, when one >starts, they all start or some such thing. I have to get back to it >and see where we're going. It's been a few months but I need to >find someone before I dig into it again who has experience running >both brother sync and midi. >Thanks, -Bob Weigel 406-582-5849 hi Bob, Put each pair on a different Midi Channel. If want to sync all the edps to the same timing then it's going to be a bit tricky to get that to work. The standard Brother-sync-Midi-linked configuration for a pair of edps won't work as a MIDI slave, as the slave of the pair won't sync until the master has finished recording a loop. So the first pair of edps could be the Master, with Brother sync and Sync=Out, the other 3 should have Sync=In Actually, I'd wonder if that many EDPs is actually necessary to achieve the desired musical result :-) ( I do full arrangements with just one pair ) andybutler www.andybutler.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 09:38:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC9E13BED3; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:38:14 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:38:19 +0000 (UTC) An alternative to brothersyncing has been pioneered by Andre LaFosse using 5 EDPs: http://andrelafosse.livejournal.com/7564.html Bernhard On Jan 5, 2007, at 11:10 :02, Bob Weigel wrote: > I need to get this setup finished for a client who wants to run 8 > echoplexes with 4 stereo sync'd channels basically. > > I think what is happening is..we're going to need some midi > filtering unless there is some way I'm missing to internally filter > the start recording messages :-). Because right now, when one > starts, they all start or some such thing. I have to get back to > it and see where we're going. It's been a few months but I need to > find someone before I dig into it again who has experience running > both brother sync and midi. Thanks, -Bob Weigel 406-582-5849 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 10:06:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF4913BEB5; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAJqxnUXUSnIwh2dsb2JhbACNPgEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:06:51 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-757D6D78 Resent-Message-ID: <464IZC.A.HVC.8MinFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:06:52 +0000 (UTC) >An alternative to brothersyncing has been pioneered by Andre LaFosse >using 5 EDPs: > >http://andrelafosse.livejournal.com/7564.html > >Bernhard cool Essentially, he uses the edp "Beatsync" function for timing. Then he's able to use his Midi router to connect either of his 2 midi controllers to any combination of edps. (as there's no worry about sending the synchronisation by midi) I hadn't realised that the edp could also send a pulse for beatsyncing, ...anyone got the details for that? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 10:07:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3F693BEDB; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070105100704.59168.qmail@web26205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=jcVYZiLTTlc9w4/3mYbMfutw2QYPN56Js7dYGcu+CiCJ5rZ2Cr8bSgUS2A+dATaWUFdsW1zeI0K2Ky3tKOGd5EnxnNAQl7fu0IUmSmD/71Vz2YdSpbYIMpCCZ3QNi6klIOZsLqqo++4nQDyUB0S9fDIF1JQ0ZzOnLCxRxvPhhGc=; X-YMail-OSG: IjzWxuMVM1kQoPEUXeU4K8fJZDhVooeccHjL3_LlL7Thot7XIhcCrT2R3tA3do8UkwkCeeBCH7Wg_psYQ12wi2LK6o4sYnMzbL.qsjh1KvoqUQ795yagBuk0bdAcRVb9qWd0xT7XnWeD Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:07:04 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Vedr. Re: my last music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi and thank you ! Looked at your web too. Impressing. Happy new year ! http://www.runefagereng.com/swell-Rendered%201.mp3--- best regards Rune F. Norway Brittany Frompovich skrev: > > Hey Rune, > > I like it...very moody. Nice job! > > > Brittany Frompovich > www.ladybassmusic.com > myspace.com/ladybassmusic > > > > > >On 24 nov 2006, at 15.31, rune fagereng wrote: > > > >>Please listen to my last music. I play most > >>instruments, but not the drums. > >>Remi fagereng play the drums. > >> > >>http://www.runefagereng.com/remember.mp3 > > > > > >Hi Rune, > > > >That music sounds good! Nice with drums! Thanks for > posting a clip ;-)) > > > >Greetings from Sweden > > > >Per Boysen > >www.boysen.se (Swedish) > >www.looproom.com (international) > >http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > >http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.  > Get a free 90-day trial! > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 __________________________________________________ Bruker du Yahoo!? Lei av spam? Yahoo! Mail har den beste spambeskyttelsen http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 11:10:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0A013BECA; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qs1FZA/zw2Z9dLjXnchIa+UNXePWcZjwNucKhgAR4Z8/orvT9wZwploGxnngsDrMPJlA3xQYwHE2ujFobDtJl0Dg3yEzeIbvtp2410CkuO5GiBYv9tEzymkk7Gyy8HV6humt5v3wWkF6avNwb/PymxCsmZIzsM7frDk3cEhzU0I= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 06:10:22 -0500 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Who is your client? On 1/5/07, a k butler wrote: > > >An alternative to brothersyncing has been pioneered by Andre LaFosse > >using 5 EDPs: > > > >http://andrelafosse.livejournal.com/7564.html > > > >Bernhard > > cool > > > Essentially, he uses the edp "Beatsync" function for timing. > > Then he's able to use his Midi router to connect either of his 2 midi > controllers to any combination of edps. > (as there's no worry about sending the synchronisation by midi) > > I hadn't realised that the edp could also send a pulse for beatsyncing, > ...anyone got the details for that? > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 12:24:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19EF93BEDC; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=niks9cXhul9PXjbfxHBmQl7Vyekm1ZMDrAqkBkhwWmDgSk2hZaaiERhFxRpGqg4obrOu3hHVjNtLwcA/Baa01ROhU3PzEUdvQBCF4nDkAQ8QMESrmZXNSO+Vs6QtxXYCRtLmEl6fo0P3r3sjKYUwBozSfludYGWBU/mfSCwk23A= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4C9B90C7-7688-4C6A-9CC6-F34A952DF5FA@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: EDP Beat sync (was: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:24:27 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3ih0U.A.KnH.AOknFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:24:33 +0000 (UTC) On 1/5/07, a k butler wrote: >> I hadn't realised that the edp could also send a pulse for =20 >> beatsyncing, >> ...anyone got the details for that? Not more details than that it works fine. I once used it in the =20 studio to sync several EDP takes as a traditional multi tracking =20 recording session. First I recorded the EDP Beat sync pulse output on =20= a separate track. This "beat" track were then used as the sync source =20= (equalling Andr=E9's "beat sync master" EDP in the related NYC gig =20 setup) when I recorded several other tracks with the EDP, one after =20 the other. The rest of this multi tracking EDP session may also be of interest =20 for those who care to do recordings. I did not record the audio =20 output of the EDP - I recorded my audio input (live played =20 instrument) plus the MIDI control data sent to the EDP for looping, =20 cutting, reversing etc while I was playing he instrument and live =20 looping. Then I recreated the improvised EDP performance by feeding =20 the (now beat synced) EDP the recorded live audio and the MIDI =20 control data I had played at the same time during the tracking of the =20= performance. The point in doing this was that I could put different =20 layers and parts of my EDP improvisation as different audio tracks in =20= Logic and mix it all in a more orchestrated way (different filtering =20 and effects on different EDP sections). The alternative would have =20 been to do as Andr=E9 and borrow a rack of EDP's but at the time I =20 didn't know any one at all in this country except for me that had an =20 EDP. Today I do not separate looped layers for different effect treatments =20= because I think it disturbs the process of musical improvisation. =20 Instead I have gotten used to play also the effects, as I play an =20 instrument, and record them as part of different layers in the same =20 loop or parallel loops (stereo looping in Mobius). Eventually I'm going back to a more "composing" method in the future =20 as I'm now moving into using the EWI a lot more. With the EWI I can =20 record its unquantized MIDI output, which gives you the option of =20 finalizing the sound afterwards without harming the musical =20 performance. But that's just recordist geek talk that doesn't rely =20 much to a live situation. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 13:05:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7209E3BEDA; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, scott hansen Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:05:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: adrian belew : electronic guitar (vhs) Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <459E4D16.11670.C114A6@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <890949.63133.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:05:37 +0000 (UTC) On 4 Jan 2007 at 13:10, scott hansen wrote: > just a quick note: for xmas i got the video (yes, video!)-adrian > belew: electronic guitar... I have this too - it's a lot of fun to see how he creates all those animal noises ;) > racks are full of all the old analog stuff i used to dream about > when i first started playing back in the early 80's.... Indeed and he's lucky enough to have a roadie to cart them all around with him ;) You ought to check out the 2 David Torn vids of a similar nature http://www.activemusician.com/music--david_torn I think these vids are worth having simply to see/hear these inspirational artists in action, unencumbered by drummers & the like ;) All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 13:25:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6225E3BEDB; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAALbgnUXUSnIvh2dsb2JhbACNPQEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070105131203.01b553b8@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:22:26 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: EDP Beat sync (was: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY) In-Reply-To: <4C9B90C7-7688-4C6A-9CC6-F34A952DF5FA@gmail.com> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> <4C9B90C7-7688-4C6A-9CC6-F34A952DF5FA@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-346A2430 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:25:27 +0000 (UTC) At 12:24 05/01/2007, you wrote: >>>I hadn't realised that the edp could also send a pulse for >>>beatsyncing, >>>...anyone got the details for that? > > >Not more details than that it works fine. So, do you have to set Sync=Out to send the pulse, and Sync=In to receive it? (yep...too lazy to de-rack the edp and find out) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 13:30:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81DC23BED3; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=s5IRb5k9uBHjIkFAKw/OwOG3i213VL/KG7Wf0m1n3IaRm6bxRusbfPcI+FN58JfdGOdmEJhs3AukvNkhqm7mWsmEoKAG72EQ2YdViZkWAY7R91W0bHdzEDde6w9fydj9yyP201EdzhWCxLoMMGSHdhSKoWovxuER4tP8eqbrkOs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070105131203.01b553b8@tiscali.co.uk> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> <4C9B90C7-7688-4C6A-9CC6-F34A952DF5FA@gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105131203.01b553b8@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4A70236F-F844-495B-9828-62FC9B9590D3@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: EDP Beat sync (was: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:30:51 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:30:55 +0000 (UTC) >> Not more details than that it works fine. > On 5 jan 2007, at 14.22, a k butler wrote: > So, > do you have to set Sync=Out to send the pulse, > and Sync=In to receive it? I don't remember but that assumption sounds fair to me. > (yep...too lazy to de-rack the edp and find out) I'm even worse. I'm too lazy to turn on my EDP. (think that relates to some Mobius virus I got infected by...) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 13:38:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6759D3BEDF; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 476672419 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C730CE.B9F18109" Subject: RE: In Praise of Stomp Box Pedals was: ModFx on ebay Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:38:04 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72579814@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: In Praise of Stomp Box Pedals was: ModFx on ebay thread-index: AccwzfBAkZPmy1T3RfipLnEM8ws2eA== References: <648092ffd050f45f3aae12c0a0b998c6@glasswing.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2007 13:38:04.0767 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA240EF0:01C730CE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:38:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C730CE.B9F18109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I once ran a juno 60 into a teac 144 portastudio so hot that the = resulting distorted sound was like a hammond.=20 we used to have a little casio mt65 keyboard (one of the cheesy ones = with mini-keyboard & drumbox) which I did a little circuit-bending on, & = then lost in a loan-out that never ended. we would put this casio's = various outputs (I fitted separate outs for the various auto-accomp = elements) through the filter of a slightly-bent moog rogue. as I recall, = I'd found something in the casio that could be used to trigger the = moog's envelope... I wish the casio was still here. I lost a fender bass = in that same deal, & a korg drum machine. bah. d. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C730CE.B9F18109 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: In Praise of Stomp Box Pedals was: ModFx on ebay

I once ran a juno 60 into a teac 144 portastudio so = hot that the resulting distorted sound was like a hammond.

we used to have a little casio mt65 keyboard (one of the cheesy ones = with mini-keyboard & drumbox) which I did a little circuit-bending = on, & then lost in a loan-out that never ended. we would put this = casio's various outputs (I fitted separate outs for the various = auto-accomp elements) through the filter of a slightly-bent moog rogue. = as I recall, I'd found something in the casio that could be used to = trigger the moog's envelope... I wish the casio was still here. I lost a = fender bass in that same deal, & a korg drum machine. bah.

d.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C730CE.B9F18109-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 13:47:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A5BC3BEE6; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 476680499 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C730D0.0DF5E61D" Subject: RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:44:34 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72579817@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. thread-index: Accwz6JZjC2Zs8kBQ2CB8/OlxqfQ7w== References: <003701c73031$caecdd40$9715be18@oemcomputer> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2007 13:47:35.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E13ADD0:01C730D0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:47:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C730D0.0DF5E61D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>Speaker swapping is an expensive habit, but when you can do it, try = it.<< he's right- I recently switched from playing my (normally tuned) bass & = orange amp through a marshall 4x10 to using a fairly compact & cheap = 1x15. the difference is remarkable- I can now feel the bottom end again, = amongst other sonic benefits. the main reason for trying this, though, = was that the 4x10 was incredibly heavy & we just couldn't be bothered to = get it out of our cupboard at the studio. d. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C730D0.0DF5E61D Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion.

>>Speaker swapping is an expensive habit, but = when you can do it, try it.<<

he's right- I recently switched from playing my (normally tuned) bass = & orange amp through a marshall 4x10 to using a fairly compact & = cheap 1x15. the difference is remarkable- I can now feel the bottom end = again, amongst other sonic benefits. the main reason for trying this, = though, was that the 4x10 was incredibly heavy & we just couldn't be = bothered to get it out of our cupboard at the studio.

d.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C730D0.0DF5E61D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 14:04:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BCB83BEEC; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:04:50 +0000 From: "Fluke" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: "Fluke" Subject: Re: adrian belew : electronic guitar (vhs) X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: UebiMiau 2.7.2 X-Original-IP: 82.195.186.223 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MSMail-Priority: Medium Importance: Medium Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070105140454.B557F84A1B@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <5eQNzD.A.W5D.JslnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:04:58 +0000 (UTC) I have it too. Spent several years tracking one down. Note the one overdubbed voice-over phrase early on: "There is a compressor on all the time". I found you cannot do any of it without heavy compression. Nik --------- Original Message -------- From: nick@12testing.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com , scott hansen Subject: Re: adrian belew : electronic guitar (vhs) Date: 05/01/07 13:05 > > On 4 Jan 2007 at 13:10, scott hansen wrote: > > > just a quick note: for xmas i got the video (yes, video!)-adrian > > belew: electronic guitar... > > I have this too - it's a lot of fun to see how he creates all those > animal noises ;) > > > racks are full of all the old analog stuff i used to dream about > > when i first started playing back in the early 80's.... > > Indeed and he's lucky enough to have a roadie to cart them all around > with him ;) > > You ought to check out the 2 David Torn vids of a similar nature > > http://www.activemusician.com/music--david_torn > > I think these vids are worth having simply to see/hear these > inspirational artists in action, unencumbered by drummers & the like > ;) > > > All the best, > > Nick Robinson > > > > > > ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 14:47:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2FDE3BEEA; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Mz99GeBmFoFlgGT4CnjgPNuqUWuD6IK0lttfjvaaQ/xC/rBCdu6tAPeVzTysIGjbjGGdtttpA7wETlMQkDzOQTKogs6eJyhCkkA+h5+Sb/K5q6YsEQb9BrSNCG4tps98dU1klI9DUpsvu5hcc/wz9VCRAFZ0H4I+8X1/BMOsVK4= ; X-YMail-OSG: Ko_sFoMVM1nGxgImD0FDB0zs1yAFnjfcfA2mTQc765gzaMLnrXruMm59RNe4fOgiIhEfkSD8N1SdX1RMgwtUKB4gR.OlI7iIwaHFc_VFCQ6Uw4LFLPeDpDSpPQyJ4KfV5X31ZtTZE3Q- Message-ID: <010801c730d8$7d69bfa0$6602a8c0@Ruelle2> From: "Ben" To: Subject: -M- Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:47:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Another French looper on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhb3zfuagtA It's the kind of live act that explains what looping is to the mass. This is just a jam in the middle of the gig. It's not "only" a looping gig. Ben. ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 15:05:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C4A43BEE2; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=As83OI4TdOiEmUwN6hl3JmTiPaMGdHcfjEr/DFU7TQSWM3sl3uw8bczojkrR1WHYuwHmIop318bYHOKFLaj4SW9v82Gc9WTrjyLSf72XzulmZkSakv4+yaHVFMaaPvhNCfI6KJ4W4mak6ST6vNrypUEEDePZb3bjiWY3mKXVHyA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:05:12 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: '69 martin 69k ! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070104194700.F402C3BEF5@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:05:14 +0000 (UTC) jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? Tony On 1/5/07, samba - wrote: > craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 > dollars. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping > Sales & Deals > http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 > > -- -==-=-=- Tony http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 15:14:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F03603BEE7; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <12622994.1168010078837.JavaMail.root@web40> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 7:14:38 -0800 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: '69 martin 69k ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <9pqBXB.A.vFH.ftmnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:14:39 +0000 (UTC) I wouldn't be a bit surprised if someone bought it at that price (or greater). I am just amazed that EVERY single item I target on eBay - whether it's an instruction book, effect, guitar, amp, et al almost always has multiple bidders. Sometimes even when the auction prices (for used non-unique stuff) are almost equal or equal to new prices. -- Paul ---- Tony K wrote: > jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? > > The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? > > Tony > > On 1/5/07, samba - wrote: > > craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 > > dollars. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping > > Sales & Deals > > http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 > > > > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 16:22:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B2DA3BECF; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <20070104194700.F402C3BEF5@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-728386621 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: '69 martin 69k ! Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:22:27 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:22:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-728386621 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Musta' been played by Jesus or the Buddha himself. $6,900 would have been outrageous. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 5-Jan-07, at 7:05 AM, Tony K wrote: > jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? > > The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? > > Tony > > On 1/5/07, samba - wrote: >> craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 >> dollars. >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping >> Sales & Deals >> http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/? >> ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 >> >> > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ > --Apple-Mail-1-728386621 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Musta' been played by Jesus or the Buddha himself. $6,900 would have been outrageous. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 5-Jan-07, at 7:05 AM, Tony K wrote: jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? Tony On 1/5/07, samba - < wrote: craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 dollars.< _________________________________________________________________ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping Sales & Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 -- -==-=-=- Tony http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ --Apple-Mail-1-728386621-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 16:23:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3653D3BEEE; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <12622994.1168010078837.JavaMail.root@web40> References: <12622994.1168010078837.JavaMail.root@web40> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-728436575 Message-Id: <7c4211909e193d7da121bceeaaf2acb1@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: '69 martin 69k ! Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:23:17 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:23:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-728436575 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Sometimes I suspect that the seller has friends bid on items. Nothing else makes sense. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 5-Jan-07, at 7:14 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > I wouldn't be a bit surprised if someone bought it at that price (or > greater). > > I am just amazed that EVERY single item I target on eBay - whether > it's an instruction book, effect, guitar, amp, et al almost always has > multiple bidders. Sometimes even when the auction prices (for used > non-unique stuff) are almost equal or equal to new prices. > > -- > Paul > ---- Tony K wrote: >> jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? >> >> The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? >> >> Tony >> >> On 1/5/07, samba - wrote: >>> craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 >>> dollars. >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN >>> Shopping >>> Sales & Deals >>> http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/? >>> ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -==-=-=- >> Tony >> http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ >> > --Apple-Mail-2-728436575 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Sometimes I suspect that the seller has friends bid on items. Nothing else makes sense. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 5-Jan-07, at 7:14 AM, Paul Richards wrote: I wouldn't be a bit surprised if someone bought it at that price (or greater). I am just amazed that EVERY single item I target on eBay - whether it's an instruction book, effect, guitar, amp, et al almost always has multiple bidders. Sometimes even when the auction prices (for used non-unique stuff) are almost equal or equal to new prices. -- Paul ---- Tony K < wrote: jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? Tony On 1/5/07, samba - < wrote: craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 dollars.< _________________________________________________________________ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping Sales & Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 -- -==-=-=- Tony http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ --Apple-Mail-2-728436575-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 16:27:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AC7A3BEFA; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <15261481.1168014457048.JavaMail.root@web40> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 8:27:37 -0800 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: '69 martin 69k ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:27:38 +0000 (UTC) I had someone do that to me recently on eBay. Some user joined eBay the same day I placed a bid on a recording item and bid the item up (and me like an idiot caught in the heat of the battle). I won the item and the guy who bid never bought another thing on eBay and had no feedback. Kinda suspicious. -- Paul Richards ---- Richard Sales wrote: > Sometimes I suspect that the seller has friends bid on items. Nothing > else makes sense. > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 5-Jan-07, at 7:14 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > > > I wouldn't be a bit surprised if someone bought it at that price (or > > greater). > > > > I am just amazed that EVERY single item I target on eBay - whether > > it's an instruction book, effect, guitar, amp, et al almost always has > > multiple bidders. Sometimes even when the auction prices (for used > > non-unique stuff) are almost equal or equal to new prices. > > > > -- > > Paul > > ---- Tony K wrote: > >> jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? > >> > >> The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? > >> > >> Tony > >> > >> On 1/5/07, samba - wrote: > >>> craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 > >>> dollars. > >>> > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>> Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN > >>> Shopping > >>> Sales & Deals > >>> http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/? > >>> ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -==-=-=- > >> Tony > >> http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 17:50:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C5493BEE8; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b9QhuWlfzwQiQ/tKnBQ+DfAJRUe/jBXYW3W++N4CoggjSVZyJ77wDRmgz4rQPt99UoTM0lLLX+rtUsOcU1vU33aT65NPGAttdvHZZ5qhz9w0gs8fNGPlMJNZ71ZYeIeryWuwBhzjg5+vrYEDfjQMuJP6itAgkxLAdjXQwTHU1aU= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:50:36 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: '69 martin 69k ! In-Reply-To: <15261481.1168014457048.JavaMail.root@web40> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <15261481.1168014457048.JavaMail.root@web40> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:50:38 +0000 (UTC) I try not to get into the heat of battle on ebay. I pick an amount that I'm comfortable with and I stick to it. I've lost bids by $1 and it pissed me off, but I made my limit and I stick to it. Apparently 1969 was the last year that Martin used Brazilian Rosewood so they are considered collectors guitars. Though I've seen early 60's D28s going for 6 or 7k, not 69k. Walk around one of the guitar shows sometime to get a real eye-opener. The first time I saw a $500,000 LesPaul I about peed myself. I have a '35 Martin Tenor that I WISH was worth a few thousand. But then I probably wouldn't have it hanging on the wall, would I? I live pretty near the Martin factory and I've talked to some of their staff. Even they are amazed at what the older models are going for these days. Tony On 1/5/07, Paul Richards wrote: > I had someone do that to me recently on eBay. Some user joined eBay the same day I placed a bid on a recording item and bid the item up (and me like an idiot caught in the heat of the battle). I won the item and the guy who bid never bought another thing on eBay and had no feedback. Kinda suspicious. > -- > Paul Richards > > ---- Richard Sales wrote: > > Sometimes I suspect that the seller has friends bid on items. Nothing > > else makes sense. > > richard sales > > glassWing farm and studio > > vancouver island, b.c. > > 800.545.6846 > > 250.752.4816 > > www.glassWing.com > > www.richardsales.com > > www.hayleysales.com > > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > > On 5-Jan-07, at 7:14 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > > > > > I wouldn't be a bit surprised if someone bought it at that price (or > > > greater). > > > > > > I am just amazed that EVERY single item I target on eBay - whether > > > it's an instruction book, effect, guitar, amp, et al almost always has > > > multiple bidders. Sometimes even when the auction prices (for used > > > non-unique stuff) are almost equal or equal to new prices. > > > > > > -- > > > Paul > > > ---- Tony K wrote: > > >> jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? > > >> > > >> The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? > > >> > > >> Tony > > >> > > >> On 1/5/07, samba - wrote: > > >>> craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 > > >>> dollars. > > >>> > > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > > >>> Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN > > >>> Shopping > > >>> Sales & Deals > > >>> http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/? > > >>> ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> -==-=-=- > > >> Tony > > >> http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ > > >> > > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 18:20:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 158AC3BEDB; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20109359.1168021198226.JavaMail.root@web29> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:19:58 -0800 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: '69 martin 69k ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (The first time I saw a $500,000 LesPaul I about peed myself. ) Considering a 2007 Bentley Continental GTC has an MSRP of $189,000. -- Paul ---- Tony K wrote: > I try not to get into the heat of battle on ebay. I pick an amount > that I'm comfortable with and I stick to it. I've lost bids by $1 and > it pissed me off, but I made my limit and I stick to it. > > Apparently 1969 was the last year that Martin used Brazilian Rosewood > so they are considered collectors guitars. Though I've seen early > 60's D28s going for 6 or 7k, not 69k. Walk around one of the guitar > shows sometime to get a real eye-opener. The first time I saw a > $500,000 LesPaul I about peed myself. > > I have a '35 Martin Tenor that I WISH was worth a few thousand. But > then I probably wouldn't have it hanging on the wall, would I? > > I live pretty near the Martin factory and I've talked to some of their > staff. Even they are amazed at what the older models are going for > these days. > > Tony > > On 1/5/07, Paul Richards wrote: > > I had someone do that to me recently on eBay. Some user joined eBay the same day I placed a bid on a recording item and bid the item up (and me like an idiot caught in the heat of the battle). I won the item and the guy who bid never bought another thing on eBay and had no feedback. Kinda suspicious. > > -- > > Paul Richards > > > > ---- Richard Sales wrote: > > > Sometimes I suspect that the seller has friends bid on items. Nothing > > > else makes sense. > > > richard sales > > > glassWing farm and studio > > > vancouver island, b.c. > > > 800.545.6846 > > > 250.752.4816 > > > www.glassWing.com > > > www.richardsales.com > > > www.hayleysales.com > > > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > > > On 5-Jan-07, at 7:14 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > > > > > > > I wouldn't be a bit surprised if someone bought it at that price (or > > > > greater). > > > > > > > > I am just amazed that EVERY single item I target on eBay - whether > > > > it's an instruction book, effect, guitar, amp, et al almost always has > > > > multiple bidders. Sometimes even when the auction prices (for used > > > > non-unique stuff) are almost equal or equal to new prices. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul > > > > ---- Tony K wrote: > > > >> jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? > > > >> > > > >> The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? > > > >> > > > >> Tony > > > >> > > > >> On 1/5/07, samba - wrote: > > > >>> craigslist sf a 69 martin listed for 69,000 > > > >>> dollars. > > > >>> > > > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > > > >>> Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN > > > >>> Shopping > > > >>> Sales & Deals > > > >>> http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/? > > > >>> ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> -==-=-=- > > > >> Tony > > > >> http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 18:32:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E60F33BEF1; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.222] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070105182000.877873BEDE@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: 69 martin Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:32:19 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2007 18:32:24.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7F40F60:01C730F7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:32:25 +0000 (UTC) The 69 martin is on craigslist ,not ebay. 69,000 may be a typo,but they have 2 listed at that price..,69 was almost 40 years ago now. Brazil sometime around then banned the export of rosewood for a while. _________________________________________________________________ The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the scoop. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 19:58:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68D423BEDC; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 19:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: scott@dreamstate.to via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.071933 secs) Message-ID: <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:58:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: ModFX (Power Supply) From: scott@dreamstate.to To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 19:58:32 +0000 (UTC) > Joshua Carroll schrieb: >> I have the FAZE unit, but somehow lost the power supply in a recent >> move, and it won't run on batteries. Sniff, sniff! I've found that all the small Alesis boxes use the same power supply (MODFX, Air FX, Nanosynth) so if you can find another small Alesis box cheaply (working or not) you can use its power supply. Alesis Model A30980C - output 9VAC 830mA Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 20:05:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C28A3BEE9; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: KKqd1PYVM1l49N_EPpB8wFptP6mUbyJKM15BfxwTkjV5oYjZw3KrJP8j1LbdzUO5ZNWkd7JoigBkA3HFXBkxkg7f9XJ3aryZuGnmvEP0hWuk44Zs4GHDNgHeoG5IJHJ6a8LyvCiP1sZRua0- Message-ID: <459EAF89.1080700@infinivert.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:05:29 -0600 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ModFX (Power Supply) References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030506010305060509020405" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0701-1, 01/05/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:05:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030506010305060509020405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks! I'll keep an eye out. --Josh scott@dreamstate.to wrote: >> Joshua Carroll schrieb: >> >>> I have the FAZE unit, but somehow lost the power supply in a recent >>> move, and it won't run on batteries. Sniff, sniff! >>> > > I've found that all the small Alesis boxes use the same power supply > (MODFX, Air FX, Nanosynth) so if you can find another small Alesis box > cheaply (working or not) you can use its power supply. > > Alesis Model A30980C - output 9VAC 830mA > > Cheers, > Scott M2 > > http://www.dreamSTATE.to > ambientelectronicsoundscapes > http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com > > > > > > --------------030506010305060509020405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks!  I'll keep an eye out.

--Josh

scott@dreamstate.to wrote:
Joshua Carroll schrieb:
    
I have the FAZE unit, but somehow lost the power supply in a recent
move, and it won't run on batteries.  Sniff, sniff!
      

I've found that all the small Alesis boxes use the same power supply
(MODFX, Air FX, Nanosynth) so if you can find another small Alesis box
cheaply (working or not) you can use its power supply.

Alesis Model A30980C - output 9VAC 830mA

Cheers,
Scott M2

http://www.dreamSTATE.to
ambientelectronicsoundscapes
http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com





  
--------------030506010305060509020405-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 20:26:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EFAB3BEEC; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BT8j91uf4PW6HI/r6zkGGtG1I0K9UODd6StdVx4eV/BARQv1H81qkt7IGQhow4MPMu6z9XWRmqPZdlSvveyRXxeCLVnCH9Yc5WcHBsZNsgE++th20WBB7DAfFl0xGJSa80BvcHAjRfndOKbo/VlUl4/2xVYgmTIqX7pGh6Sw8Yw= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:26:31 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ModFX (Power Supply) In-Reply-To: <459EAF89.1080700@infinivert.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <459EAF89.1080700@infinivert.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1_fiRB.A.g3B.4RrnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:26:33 +0000 (UTC) or just get one at RS, or... http://www.montek.com/cart/catalog/Power-Supply-p-1-c-451.html Slightly on this subject, can one use a PS with a higher amperage? like could Joshua use a 9v 1000mA PS? I've been told that you can, but is it bad? or what? Tony On 1/5/07, Joshua Carroll wrote: > > Thanks! I'll keep an eye out. > > --Josh > > > scott@dreamstate.to wrote: > > Joshua Carroll schrieb: > > > I have the FAZE unit, but somehow lost the power supply in a recent > move, and it won't run on batteries. Sniff, sniff! > > I've found that all the small Alesis boxes use the same power supply > (MODFX, Air FX, Nanosynth) so if you can find another small Alesis box > cheaply (working or not) you can use its power supply. > > Alesis Model A30980C - output 9VAC 830mA > > Cheers, > Scott M2 > > http://www.dreamSTATE.to > ambientelectronicsoundscapes > http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com > > > > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 20:27:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A2363BEEC; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: scott@dreamstate.to via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.576377 secs) Message-ID: <2086.65.94.55.252.1168028875.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:27:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: OT - Opening an Alesis ModFX (?) From: scott@dreamstate.to To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:27:54 +0000 (UTC) While unpacking my beloved Alesis Bitrman after a New Years jam I noticed something rattling inside. There is one screw on the bottom which I have now removed (and I can't spot any others) but the top is still reluctant to be removed so that I can see what's what inside. Has anyone here successfully/safely opened up a ModFX and can you give me clues as how to proceed next? I've pushed down gentley on the knobs (with no useful result yet) but I'm wary of crunching something inside by pushing too hard. Thanks in advance, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 20:34:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A93C63BED0; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: GWGX_WAVM1kcOaD_WJKMiHhB1f4hViO_jZ7GBSXNJc47.8j_Dbl9F2UWJicP.T1RWYjmEDaanTBik_y2MO6xVNFDzQYHUAHCoZlqvkuCM8YusHe14yGstA-- Message-ID: <459EB660.9070002@infinivert.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:34:40 -0600 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT - Opening an Alesis ModFX (?) References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <2086.65.94.55.252.1168028875.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: <2086.65.94.55.252.1168028875.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0701-1, 01/05/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <5U-LF.A.jdC.kZrnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:34:44 +0000 (UTC) I tried to open mine and finally gave up. With them being so rare these days, I'd hate to break it... --Josh scott@dreamstate.to wrote: > While unpacking my beloved Alesis Bitrman after a New Years jam > I noticed something rattling inside. There is one screw on the bottom > which I have now removed (and I can't spot any others) but the top > is still reluctant to be removed so that I can see what's what inside. > > Has anyone here successfully/safely opened up a ModFX > and can you give me clues as how to proceed next? > > I've pushed down gentley on the knobs (with no useful result yet) > but I'm wary of crunching something inside by pushing too hard. > > Thanks in advance, > Scott M2 > > http://www.dreamSTATE.to > ambientelectronicsoundscapes > http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 20:35:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93F5B3BEC1; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: HZ5obE8VM1nQSKXpkpBa6O3O6cQUjPaaWK81Ay.c.KWytWOVrCbXuLaiqJwtvaPSfQF9dUg8Ts4guaikPsTIDgjp8Scrxg8ENiIhoYYcEaNodq2EFeuDKcp4dRPFFhENpIgud2xREj3VD0Q- Message-ID: <459EB67C.40309@infinivert.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:35:08 -0600 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ModFX (Power Supply) References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <459EAF89.1080700@infinivert.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0701-1, 01/05/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <9fbxNB.A.wjC.AarnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:35:12 +0000 (UTC) My first thought was to use an alternative 9V supply, but I couldn't find one that fit the jack. --Josh Tony K wrote: > or just get one at RS, or... > > http://www.montek.com/cart/catalog/Power-Supply-p-1-c-451.html > > Slightly on this subject, can one use a PS with a higher amperage? > like could Joshua use a 9v 1000mA PS? > > I've been told that you can, but is it bad? or what? > > Tony > > > On 1/5/07, Joshua Carroll wrote: >> >> Thanks! I'll keep an eye out. >> >> --Josh >> >> >> scott@dreamstate.to wrote: >> >> Joshua Carroll schrieb: >> >> >> I have the FAZE unit, but somehow lost the power supply in a recent >> move, and it won't run on batteries. Sniff, sniff! >> >> I've found that all the small Alesis boxes use the same power supply >> (MODFX, Air FX, Nanosynth) so if you can find another small Alesis box >> cheaply (working or not) you can use its power supply. >> >> Alesis Model A30980C - output 9VAC 830mA >> >> Cheers, >> Scott M2 >> >> http://www.dreamSTATE.to >> ambientelectronicsoundscapes >> http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 20:38:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A714A3BED0; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: scott@dreamstate.to via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.330225 secs) Message-ID: <2124.65.94.55.252.1168029534.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <459EAF89.1080700@infinivert.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:38:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: ModFX (Power Supply) From: scott@dreamstate.to To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:38:52 +0000 (UTC) > or just get one at RS, or... > > http://www.montek.com/cart/catalog/Power-Supply-p-1-c-451.html > > Slightly on this subject, can one use a PS with a higher amperage? > like could Joshua use a 9v 1000mA PS? > > I've been told that you can, but is it bad? or what? > > Tony I've had good luck using higher amp'ed DC warts (if you measure them, they're usually "over" anyway) but have never tried it with an AC wart - which is what the Alesis boxes use. (Alesis Model A30980C - output 9VAC 830mA) Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 20:59:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EF153BEE9; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAOJKnkXUSnInh2dsb2JhbACNPgEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070105205412.01a48e20@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:59:15 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: ModFX (Power Supply) In-Reply-To: References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <459EAF89.1080700@infinivert.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2B9175C Resent-Message-ID: <2b2ZCC.A.CkD.XwrnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:59:04 +0000 (UTC) At 20:26 05/01/2007, you wrote: >or just get one at RS, or... > >http://www.montek.com/cart/catalog/Power-Supply-p-1-c-451.html > >Slightly on this subject, can one use a PS with a higher amperage? >like could Joshua use a 9v 1000mA PS? > >I've been told that you can, but is it bad? or what? > >Tony Yes, no problem at all. As long as the amperage isn't smaller than the device needs. Don't forget this one is 9VAC not the more common DC. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 20:59:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53CCC3BEDE; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2124.65.94.55.252.1168029534.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <459EAF89.1080700@infinivert.com> <2124.65.94.55.252.1168029534.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:59:34 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: ModFX (Power Supply) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <_s53KC.A.PrD.7wrnFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:59:39 +0000 (UTC) At 3:38 PM -0500 1/5/07, scott@dreamstate.to wrote: > > or just get one at RS, or... >> > > http://www.montek.com/cart/catalog/Power-Supply-p-1-c-451.html >> >> Slightly on this subject, can one use a PS with a higher amperage? >> like could Joshua use a 9v 1000mA PS? >> > > I've been told that you can, but is it bad? or what? > >I've had good luck using higher amp'ed DC warts >(if you measure them, they're usually "over" anyway) >but have never tried it with an AC wart - which is what the >Alesis boxes use. (Alesis Model A30980C - output 9VAC 830mA) Found at least one place that sells the one-to-one Alesis replacement for that Model PS: http://www.djplanet.com/i--P3 Also, I've used mine with the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power AC ( http://www.voodoolab.com/pedalpower_ac.htm ). Works great for replacing AC wall-warts (Lex Vortex, Yamaha Magicstomp, Alesis stuff, etc.). --m. -- _______ "Snakes on a Plane..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 21:26:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A2EE3BEB9; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: scott@dreamstate.to via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.133696 secs) Message-ID: <2312.65.94.55.252.1168032374.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: <459EB660.9070002@infinivert.com> References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <2086.65.94.55.252.1168028875.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <459EB660.9070002@infinivert.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:26:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: OT - Opening an Alesis ModFX (?) From: scott@dreamstate.to To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Crap!!! Maybe I'll have to treat it like its "bent". Just shake it around and hear what happens. ~ Scott > I tried to open mine and finally gave up. With them being so rare these > days, I'd hate to break it... > > --Josh > > > scott@dreamstate.to wrote: >> While unpacking my beloved Alesis Bitrman after a New Years jam >> I noticed something rattling inside. There is one screw on the bottom >> which I have now removed (and I can't spot any others) but the top >> is still reluctant to be removed so that I can see what's what inside. >> >> Has anyone here successfully/safely opened up a ModFX >> and can you give me clues as how to proceed next? >> >> I've pushed down gentley on the knobs (with no useful result yet) >> but I'm wary of crunching something inside by pushing too hard. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Scott M2 >> >> http://www.dreamSTATE.to >> ambientelectronicsoundscapes >> http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 22:03:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3FA23BECA; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nik Reply-To: Nik To: Richard Sales , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:02:56 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer:EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: i-default Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:03:52 +0000 (UTC) There is nothing greater than the power of human belief, as all of the = great religions show. Nik ________________ Reply Header ________________ Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Author: Richard Sales Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:58:53 +0000 On 4-Jan-07, at 6:41 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I see tube amps in museums, with model Ts, computers the size of > = rooms, and two-headed cows. and photos of all the bone headed people who couldn't hear the difference = between an Ipod/mp3 recording of a train and the one coming at them! :) Sorry. Just jazzing you! I've tried and owned lots of amps new and old. = There is only ONE that sounds the way I want it to sound. I don't give a = shirt if it's old or new, vintage or Wal Mart. I just care about the = sound. If someone can find me an amp that costs no more than the one I = have that does the job I will most certainly BUY IT! =20 Now, I could get a Victoria amp - and I hear they're nice. But they cost a = LOT more than my old Panaramic/Magnatone. Why should I buy it? =20 Same with AER amps. For what I would pay for some of the new amps I have = been told I would like, I could buy TWO of my fave vintage amps - which I = am in the process of doing. Total cost $1,040 USD. Anvil flight cases & = spare NOS tubes are extra. I was in another studio recently and they had ALL the groovy old amps. =20 Tried em all. Didn't like 'em for what I WANT. As Ravi Shankar should = have once said when he first heard a shrutti box, "Close, but no sitar!!" It took me a long time to step away from the digital marketing modern hype = 'technology is always improving' machine and hear for myself. =20 I've tried tons of effects boxes and tube guitar pre's etc. All I can say = is there is a sweet spot - and this is certainly a matter of taste=20 - that, once you find it, you say "Eureka!" In my case, it's a 1960 = PANaramic amp and Phillips parlor resonator guitar. Old Echoplex and = volume pedal. (I might eventually trade my Echoplex for a Fulltone echo.) I have a nice collection of old guitars. I currently use the newest guitar = I have because it sounds how I want it to sound. This Christmas I gave my = daughter my 1969 Martin D35 that John Fahey said was the best sounding = Martin he'd ever played. Why? Well... I love my daughter,=20 but also, as killer as it is, It's not the sound I want. I know what I = want and I hear it and I'm satisfied. No more purchases necessary. Why do so many guys who master the hits and have enough money to buy the = most advanced Prism etc converters and the latest of anything keep using = old technology and so forcefully dis plug ins? Read it in the=20 new Mix Magazine - interviews with mastering wizards. Now, I USE THE WAVES = Ultramaximizer because I just can't AFFORD some of that stuff, or the = Dunleavy speakers etc. I send music to THEM when it really counts. I KNOW you can get sort of = close with the Waves Ultramaximizer, but when your rolling next to the = Corvettes, you wanna make sure your Smart Car is as well tuned as can be. Now, interestingly, in the SAME issue of MIX where 4 out of 4 mastering = engineers emphatically say they very rarely use plug ins because they don't = like them, in the next article MIX reviews all the latest mastering plug = ins with glowing reports. What's up with that? I think it's called = advertising dollars and knowing what their audience wants=20 to (and can afford to) hear. I use an old Mackie D8B that's completely digital - eq's, compressors and = all. It works for me for now. I think a lot of this stuff is financial. = I'm looking at a big upgrade to the studio. To SSL or not to SSL? How = many more hundreds of thousands of dollars should I spend? I have HUGE = DREAD of hype because I've dumped so much money into HYPE holes. Both = vintage and the latest technology. It takes a very clear and open mind to sort through all the marketing and = dig your way out of the hype holes - and it comes from all directions - = vintage, transistor, software etc. The advantage of vintage stuff is it increases in value - at least for now. = But my old Jupiter 8 is finally worth what I paid for it. I wouldn't sell = it for twice that. I like the sound. So today's Roland could be tomorrows = Telefunken! It's all about ears and there are no easy conclusions, with or = without them. Oh! Not completely true! If you don't notice the hype holes, just keep = walking and you'll fall right on in - no effort or listening required. = Vintage or Not. If plug ins work for you, and they sometimes do for me, then Hari Bol! =20 But I think our goal on this list or any information watering hole is to = inspire inquiry at the root level - the ears in this case. To find the = technology that does what our ears are longing to hear. And the more you = use them, the more finely tuned they get. There are no easy across the board answers. Wise the man who doesn't defend himself when not being attacked R > > K- > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fluke" > To: ;=20 > <"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"@arsenic.violacea.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:57 AM > Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. > > >> Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years experiance = >> behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and guitar = >> player) without too much trouble... >> ...but only until the blindfolds come off. >> >> Nik >> >> --------- Original Message -------- >> From: donh@mindspring.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. >> Date: 02/01/07 19:37 >> >>> >>> Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... >>> >>> > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >>> >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a = >>> SS >> amp that >>> >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. >>> > >>> >>> >> >> ________________________________________________ >> Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 >> > On 4-Jan-07, at 6:41 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: I see tube amps in museums, with model Ts, computers the size of rooms, and two-headed cows. and photos of all the bone headed people who couldn't hear the difference between an Ipod/mp3 recording of a train and the one coming at them! :) Sorry. Just jazzing you! I've tried and owned lots of amps new and old. There is only ONE that sounds the way I want it to sound. I don't give a shirt if it's old or new, vintage or Wal Mart. I just care about the sound. If someone can find me an amp that costs no more than the one I have that does the job I will = most certainly BUY IT! Now, I could get a Victoria amp - and I hear they're nice. But they cost a LOT more than my old = Panaramic/Magnatone. Why should I buy it? Same with AER amps. For what I would pay for some of the new amps I have been told I would like, I could buy TWO of my fave vintage amps - which I am in the process of doing. Total cost $1,040 USD. Anvil flight cases & spare NOS tubes are extra. I was in another studio recently and they had ALL the groovy old amps. = Tried em all. Didn't like 'em for what I WANT. As Ravi Shankar should have once said when he first heard a shrutti box, "Close, but no sitar!!"=20 It took me a long time to step away from the digital marketing modern hype = 'technology is always improving' machine and hear for myself. I've tried tons of effects boxes and tube guitar pre's etc. All I can say is there is a sweet spot - and this is certainly = a matter of taste - that, once you find it, you say "Eureka!" In my case, it's a 1960 PANaramic amp and Phillips parlor = resonator guitar. Old Echoplex and volume pedal. (I might eventually = trade my Echoplex for a Fulltone echo.) I have a nice collection of old guitars. I currently use the newest guitar = I have because it sounds how I want it to sound. This Christmas I gave my daughter my 1969 Martin D35 that John Fahey said was the best sounding Martin he'd ever played. Why? Well... I love my daughter, but also, as killer as it is, It's not the sound I want.=20 I know what I want and I hear it and I'm satisfied. No more purchases = necessary. =20 Why do so many guys who master the hits and have enough money to buy the most advanced Prism etc converters and the latest of anything keep = using old technology and so forcefully dis plug ins? Read it in the new Mix Magazine - interviews with mastering wizards. Now, I USE THE WAVES = Ultramaximizer because I just can't AFFORD some of that stuff, or the Dunleavy speakers etc. =20 I send music to THEM when it really counts. I KNOW you can get sort of close with the Waves Ultramaximizer, but when your rolling next to the Corvettes, you wanna make sure your Smart Car is as well tuned as can be. Now, interestingly, in the SAME issue of MIX where 4 out of 4 mastering engineers emphatically say they very rarely use plug ins because = they don't like them, in the next article MIX reviews all the latest = mastering plug ins with glowing reports. What's up with that?=20 I think it's called advertising dollars and knowing what their audience wants to (and can afford to) hear. I use an old Mackie D8B that's completely digital - eq's, compressors and all. It works for me for now. I think a lot of this stuff is = financial. I'm looking at a big upgrade to the studio. To SSL or not to SSL? How many more hundreds of thousands of dollars should I spend? I have HUGE DREAD of hype because I've dumped so much money into HYPE holes. Both vintage and the latest technology. =20 It takes a very clear and open mind to sort through all the marketing and dig your way out of the hype holes - and it comes from all directions - vintage, transistor, software etc. =20 The advantage of vintage stuff is it increases in value - at least for now. = But my old Jupiter 8 is finally worth what I paid for it. I wouldn't sell = it for twice that. I like the sound. So today's Roland could be tomorrows = Telefunken! It's all about ears and there are no easy conclusions, with or without them. =20 Oh! Not completely true! If you don't notice the hype holes, just keep walking and you'll fall right on in - no effort or listening required. = Vintage or Not. If plug ins work for you, and they sometimes do for me, then Hari Bol! But = I think our goal on this list or any information watering hole is to inspire inquiry at the root level - the ears in this case. To find the = technology that does what our ears are longing to hear. And the more you use them, the more finely tuned they get. =20 There are no easy across the board answers. =20 Wise the man who doesn't defend himself when not being attacked R K- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fluke" < To: <; = <<"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"@arsenic.violacea.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:57 AM Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years = experiance behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and guitar player) without too much trouble... ...but only until the blindfolds come off. Nik --------- Original Message -------- From: donh@mindspring.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com < Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: 02/01/07 19:37 Or at least perhaps until the blindfold comes off... > Then the mysterious are resolved, and we >can let the DSP/SS engineers of the future continue developing a SS amp that >will eventually satisfy the tube purist via a blind test. > ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 22:03:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55CE13BEDB; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nik Reply-To: Nik To: Douglas Baldwin , donh@mindspring.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:02:57 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer:EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: i-default Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:03:58 +0000 (UTC) There are none in production that I know of. There's no point. It's like = puting a hotel in the middle of the Sahara: everyone assumes it's a mirage = (joke). Thje Bluetone gets there in a guitar amp. And back in the 80s there = was an overdrive pedal that fooled 100% in blind tests. But it's been off = the market for many years. There are simple circuit techniques around to reproduce all the desirable = characteristics of valve amps, but peole still won't buy the stuff. Ironic, when so much effort goes into making modern valve amps sound like = SS. Nik ________________ Reply Header ________________ Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Author: Douglas Baldwin Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:14:11 +0000 I've been watching this thread just a bit, and didn't bother posting until = now, when Fluke wrote: > Speaking as a designer of SS audio circuits with > 15 years experiance > = behind me, we can satisfy the tube purists (both audiophile and guitar > = player) without too much trouble... > ...but only until the blindfolds come off. Please, please, Fluke, tell me what solid state audio chain will sound and = respond like any of my tube amps? I'm a guitar player, and much as I LOVE = SS gear for so many applications; and much as I've tried SS amps, sometimes = for months at a time; and much as I would LOVE to have a preamp/power amp = chain that required less expensive maintenance and less carrying weight, = I've never experienced anything that comes close to any of my tube amps = (Music Man RD-50, Acoustic G100T, Fender Pro-Reverb, Mesa Boogie Lone Star = Special, Carvin V3). Please, please, please (to quote the late great Godfather of Soul) tell me = where I will find a SS power amp of any wattage that will respond like the = power sections in these amps, or where there is a SS preamp that will = massage my tone like any of these? I play without blindfolds, but with an open mind, open ears, and open = heart. Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "Life! Life! Clouds and clowns! You don't have to come down!" - Sly and the Family Stone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 22:22:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7FCD3BEDC; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <459EDDC0.8040303@imt.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:22:40 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105091441.01a46098@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070105091441.01a46098@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Hehe. Yeah...the idea is obviously to sync them....not to just brag about how many you have. :-) This is for Todd Green. He does seminars with a jamman setup I built an interface for years ago. He wants to get stereo and up the quality a bit. MIDI clocks though aren't channel specific (just a good 'ol F8 hex as I recall). I'll try it and see where we're at. -Bob a k butler wrote: > At 10:10 05/01/2007, you wrote: > >> I need to get this setup finished for a client who wants to run 8 >> echoplexes with 4 stereo sync'd channels basically. >> >> I think what is happening is..we're going to need some midi filtering >> unless there is some way I'm missing to internally filter the start >> recording messages :-). Because right now, when one starts, they all >> start or some such thing. I have to get back to it and see where >> we're going. It's been a few months but I need to find someone >> before I dig into it again who has experience running both brother >> sync and midi. >> Thanks, -Bob Weigel 406-582-5849 > > > hi Bob, > Put each pair on a different Midi Channel. > > If want to sync all the edps to the same timing then it's going to be > a bit tricky to get that to work. > > The standard Brother-sync-Midi-linked configuration for a pair of edps > won't work as a MIDI slave, > as the slave of the pair won't sync until the master has finished > recording a loop. > > So the first pair of edps could be the Master, with Brother sync and > Sync=Out, > the other 3 should have Sync=In > > > Actually, I'd wonder if that many EDPs is actually necessary to > achieve the desired musical result :-) > ( I do full arrangements with just one pair ) > > andybutler > www.andybutler.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 22:44:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 590163BED0; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <459EE2EE.2020806@imt.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:44:46 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Todd Green in case you miss my other post. THanks for all the suggestions guys and I'll get it back on the bench here soon and try a few things. THere's a lot to go through to get the information I figured you guys would have. My area of expertise is more in the realm of old synthesizers and stuff. www.imt.net/~sounddoctorin has a link for my studio where you can click and see a break down of the stations as of last year and get sound samples of most of the machines. OB-8 broke right when I was about to do that... and the conn electric band still needs another going through. But most of the rest of it I think has an mp3 when you click the keyboard. And then there's a global synth resource page also off that link for tons of tech tips and parts for old machines. Enjoy! -Bob Mark Trewella wrote: > Who is your client? > > > On 1/5/07, a k butler wrote: > >> >> >An alternative to brothersyncing has been pioneered by Andre LaFosse >> >using 5 EDPs: >> > >> >http://andrelafosse.livejournal.com/7564.html >> > >> >Bernhard >> >> cool >> >> >> Essentially, he uses the edp "Beatsync" function for timing. >> >> Then he's able to use his Midi router to connect either of his 2 midi >> controllers to any combination of edps. >> (as there's no worry about sending the synchronisation by midi) >> >> I hadn't realised that the edp could also send a pulse for beatsyncing, >> ...anyone got the details for that? >> >> andy butler >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 5 23:03:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 871FB3BED0; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 23:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Zoe Keating Subject: OT: original ground control midi pedal? Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:03:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: ffc86864-9d10-11db-b4dc-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtdZ1U0Dlt1 UkhJRUJQFw9oAhYF AVAZUwdzfgZYeXh1 e0RgWG9ZWUZ/akYz Hk5Ra25dJhBga2cZ UUkWcQRRPlUcLRdD YlZ7SXpZYGUaZ3s0 FUo5Yzw6eG0HcX0F Hw1Wcg0ZSFAsImx0 QAoDEjQpFElNSD80 MhoqYlUbGloLNUF6 NFotWBoAPhMbDlo2 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:315/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 23:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone ever used the old Ground Control midi pedal (the long rectangular one)? I'm trying to find out how many messages the thing can send at once (how many CC, PC and Note message) and across how many channels. If any one knows....? thanks! Zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 01:01:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C90173BEC7; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 01:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701060101.l0611CTl058548@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: original ground control midi pedal? Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:01:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AccxHcYOS/7dQLTfRxuDytnsjNUehgADLnEg X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 01:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Hey Zoe, you might try calling either John Acock or John Clark at Digital Music Corp, in Petaluma at 707-545-0600. they may still have the ability to generate a manual. Frankly I think they need to update and re-release them, with at least three or four cc pedal outs, but still small and sleek. That big Ground Control Pro that Kid Beyond uses (no offense Kid), though very well made and full featured, is bulkier and heavier than anything else on the market, not to mention more expensive, and it just does not fit my reality of the "suit case rig" world of post 911 airline travel. And what's up with only two expression pedal ports? Good luck to ya Lass. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Zoe Keating [mailto:cello@zoekeating.com] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:04 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: original ground control midi pedal? Has anyone ever used the old Ground Control midi pedal (the long rectangular one)? I'm trying to find out how many messages the thing can send at once (how many CC, PC and Note message) and across how many channels. If any one knows....? thanks! Zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 03:00:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACC093BEB9; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 03:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <459F1F15.3080404@imt.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:01:25 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: schematic for RDS1900 anyone? References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 03:00:54 +0000 (UTC) I did a search and someone named Scott Martin a few years back mentioned having one on this list; one of the few references coming up for a schematic search. Digitech sent me a diagram that isn't right for this and I'm up against drawing everything out if I can't find it for a guy whose friend died and he wants to restore it at any cost. Signal is dropping out in the wet side somewhere on the analog board where the bad documentation is. RDS123 they sent isn't the same it appears. -Bob Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: > An alternative to brothersyncing has been pioneered by Andre LaFosse > using 5 EDPs: > > http://andrelafosse.livejournal.com/7564.html > > Bernhard > > On Jan 5, 2007, at 11:10 :02, Bob Weigel wrote: > >> I need to get this setup finished for a client who wants to run 8 >> echoplexes with 4 stereo sync'd channels basically. >> >> I think what is happening is..we're going to need some midi >> filtering unless there is some way I'm missing to internally filter >> the start recording messages :-). Because right now, when one >> starts, they all start or some such thing. I have to get back to it >> and see where we're going. It's been a few months but I need to >> find someone before I dig into it again who has experience running >> both brother sync and midi. Thanks, -Bob Weigel 406-582-5849 >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 03:18:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 464803BEDA; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 03:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:16:51 -0500 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Nik , donh@mindspring.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <007201c73141$3dc367c0$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 03:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Nik wrote (re SS amps that respond like tubes/valves): > There are none in production that I know of. There's no point. It's like puting a hotel in the middle of the Sahara: everyone assumes it's a mirage (joke). Not true, in my experience. I review amps professionally, and I try about four new solid state amps every year, including some moderately pricey ones that take their marketing seriously. If it was *possible* to make a SS amp with tube-like qualities *at almost any price point* I believe it would be done. > Thje Bluetone gets there in a guitar amp. I tried accessing the web site - couldn't get on it. > And back in the 80s there was an overdrive pedal that fooled 100% in blind tests. But it's been off the market for many years. What pedal would that be? Who did the test? > There are simple circuit techniques around to reproduce all the desirable characteristics of valve amps, but peole still won't buy the stuff. There are still lots of SS amps being sold, and some are very highly regarded. Yamaha makes one (can't remember the model offhand), Roland's Jazz Chorus 120 has surely proven the test of time, Marshall's Mode Four is quite amazing, jazz players love the Polytone Brutes, and the Vox Valvetronix modeling amps are very, very good. But none of these respond like a tube amp. They are great for other things: loud, clean tone, especially; light weight; and approximations of a wide range of tube amp tones. But they are not tube amps. I've played them all, side by side with my tube amps. I like them, sometimes, for certain jobs. > > Ironic, when so much effort goes into making modern valve amps sound like SS. I don't know of anyone who is trying to make a valve/tube amp sound like a SS amp. Can you give me some names? Again, to quote my earlier post: Please, please, please (to quote the late great Godfather of Soul) tell me where I will find a SS power amp of any wattage that will respond like the power sections in [my favorite tube amps], or where there is a SS preamp that will massage my tone like any of these? I play without blindfolds, but with an open mind, open ears, and open heart. Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "Life! Life! Clouds and clowns! 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------=_NextPart_000_2F4F5_01C73111.707D1880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 05:57:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4A4E3BECF; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 05:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=HNzwPRudVK2vZro/yacRdkr38eFHynlsvpSRC1eJA4b6fTkEC18K3Fuik2Jn74Muhv1AeMBzcXshk9bD3mDbCawGc7Lgw84qlw3AK9FLLzLYR9CTqqxbwnOR09aOgwnFXZ0xdXcrKTiIObZet23IqMFlb5fXwyNUHKfEZf6IR7k=; X-YMail-OSG: rnb2CKIVM1kx7n1tpRgOJTbXbduadrZB.mhuHxO.eAA7oqVhunAdwQtVAxEH.0c9rUwk0rIMyPGwEeNP31h02gVW6kYM8ZQ1Wx8zqY_HpQn5jtwceSuvTHb60M.bMThHM53ZM.YFJidK.rw- Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 21:57:20 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: stompbox etc. To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <823083.39999.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 05:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Speaking of Yamaha CS-01s, many years ago when the Casio FZ-1 came out, my freind brought it over. We sampled one note from the CS and then played chords on the sampler. MASSIVE!!! We tried a couple more and were amazed at how that little tiny synth could sound so BIG when sampled and played polyphonically. Rig __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 06:01:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 546E63BEB9; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 06:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=UjrTJdA0DE47nIem2u0TaytgRHRAOU1vTMakDwI07GNcbYRR9xnDBi25gJWyXvngeZ91Iv3v5oiLQuaPw5rmFlRfJaGWACIIQrSGlQpKJwyG3jf+Vl1slZ+KHWeqtyFwOG08rhI6Kcc8kw+Sn+ZIqpWSFnEVWvoUR1oqLpawbtY=; X-YMail-OSG: doQ3ev4VM1k3VRlubEnMmHNvNfs_1P.jGLb4Q2FQpTrkLm_f6Y9oII.NfjEXaTUC026CWuqpQlBpU_oNIUJscKj6Ck220bs_JPVckNAzi181QdgY7EjihuxJZMw6hD.R.hOkU36bJ3myTFAH4jphXoO9a5HMhqc1 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:01:07 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: CS-01 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <434384.42139.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 06:01:08 +0000 (UTC) howdy. Years ago, my freind brought over a new Casio FZ-1. We sampled one note from the CS and when played polyphonically, it sounded MASSIVE!! something to consider if you have a CS-01 and a sampler. It comes out very rich and FAT!! Rig __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 06:20:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C8993BEDA; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 06:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070106062053.66567.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=VZ/Q55vn48C5W4G4QxBsid0HrAMUdyOHjChzGPBEDb4Y3yg7FFC2Ke0e5M7LIGhleEVnecqN+XNoy4rKowvoSgDeO75IhXRqKIjyL8c4UjR8ox+1OYSKQRy7MXPwS+ogy8N1ce1dMqrFXV6UNmjxv/QtuwyRacsM6hZKxKV2GmQ=; X-YMail-OSG: d6LrBssVM1kZ_hh_d24J_eoSfRY1yhxUu6AWtGsHXQNmm7Z5v3euyK1EPONKpwIqFy_QfFbuQs0.bKcwaEkltS47L7c8B_pZU3QQJEJ1Dhelynl3zMl9M1dzwbkZnMOoiSXMx2jMNqD9dtY- Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:20:53 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: CS-01 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <434384.42139.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3Wi2HB.A.EvF.H_znFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 06:20:55 +0000 (UTC) There are also a bunch of really decent casio emulators out now in VST form like PlasticCZ. That plus a Nintendo gameboy emulator and you're cooking. --- bill bigrig wrote: > howdy. > > Years ago, my freind brought over a new Casio FZ-1. > We sampled one note from the CS and when played > polyphonically, it sounded MASSIVE!! something to > consider if you have a CS-01 and a sampler. It comes > out very rich and FAT!! > Rig > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 10:28:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B2D63BEC2; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nik Reply-To: Nik To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:28:02 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer:EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: i-default Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:28:59 +0000 (UTC) I guess Bluetone folded. That proves my point. They had it, and they had a = number of high profile guitarists happy to say that Bluetone had it. But = the market wasn't interested because there are no valves in it. I don't want to tell you what the pedal was for purely selfish reasons. = It's got a circuit configuartion in it that I might want to market some = time. Actual ly I did try to market it about four years ago, but the company I set up = collapsed partly for personal reasons. The device I made was designed to go = in the FX loop of a SS amp to emulate valve power amp distortion.=20 The pedal itself, when I was back at college was blind tested against a = Rat, a Rockman Sustainer and a MkIII Boogie. The Rat fooled no-one. The = Sustainer was indestinguishable from the Boogie when listening to playback = off tape, but not when playing live. The unnamed peda, plugged into the = Boogie FX return,l fooled about two dozen guitar players into thinking it = was the Boogie's own preamp. As for power amps with the response of a guitar valve power amp - I don't = know of any. I would not do it that way. I would emulate the = characteristics required in the preamp section and use the power section = for clean, linear power delivery. This Enables the amp to get those = characteristics independant of volume. It's what most of the Marshall = Valvestate amps try to do with thier preamp valve and it's what the Vox = Valvetronix range does as well. In the HiFi world there are many power amps = that are coloured enough to be indestingishable from valve. As for your final paragraph, we all like to think we are open minded. But = your preconceptions are probably just as set as mine. Hearing is the most = subjective of all the senses. We all refuse to hear what we don't want to = hear. =20 ________________ Reply Header ________________ Subject: Re: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Author: Douglas Baldwin Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 03:16:51 +0000 Nik wrote (re SS amps that respond like tubes/valves): > There are none in production that I know of. There's no point. It's like = puting a hotel in the middle of the Sahara: everyone assumes it's a mirage = (joke). Not true, in my experience. I review amps professionally, and I try about = four new solid state amps every year, including some moderately pricey ones = that take their marketing seriously. If it was *possible* to make a SS amp = with tube-like qualities *at almost any price point* I believe it would be = done. > Thje Bluetone gets there in a guitar amp. I tried accessing the web site - couldn't get on it. > And back in the 80s there was an overdrive pedal that fooled 100% in = blind tests. But it's been off the market for many years. What pedal would that be? Who did the test? > There are simple circuit techniques around to reproduce all the desirable = characteristics of valve amps, but peole still won't buy the stuff. There are still lots of SS amps being sold, and some are very highly = regarded. Yamaha makes one (can't remember the model offhand), Roland's = Jazz Chorus 120 has surely proven the test of time, Marshall's Mode Four is = quite amazing, jazz players love the Polytone Brutes, and the Vox = Valvetronix modeling amps are very, very good. But none of these respond = like a tube amp. They are great for other things: loud, clean tone, = especially; light weight; and approximations of a wide range of tube amp = tones. But they are not tube amps. I've played them all, side by side with = my tube amps. I like them, sometimes, for certain jobs. > > Ironic, when so much effort goes into making modern valve amps sound like = SS. I don't know of anyone who is trying to make a valve/tube amp sound like a = SS amp. Can you give me some names? Again, to quote my earlier post: = Please, please, please (to quote the late great Godfather of Soul) tell me = where I will find a SS power amp of any wattage that will respond like the = power sections in [my favorite tube amps], or where there is a SS preamp = that will massage my tone like any of these? I play without blindfolds, but with an open mind, open ears, and open = heart. Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "Life! Life! Clouds and clowns! You don't have to come down!" - Sly and the Family Stone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 12:09:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6414D3BEC1; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAACogn0XUSnIvh2dsb2JhbACNPQEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070106112316.01b26868@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:09:44 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <459EDDC0.8040303@imt.net> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105091441.01a46098@tiscali.co.uk> <459EDDC0.8040303@imt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-14101AA3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:09:33 +0000 (UTC) At 23:22 05/01/2007, you wrote: >Hehe. Yeah...the idea is obviously to sync them....not to just brag >about how many you have. :-) > >This is for Todd Green. He does seminars with a jamman setup I >built an interface for years ago. He wants to get stereo and up the >quality a bit. Looperlative would have been a better option. ..one unit to do what you want. http://www.looperlative.com/ may even now be easier to sell the 8 edps and just get a Looperlative (which will quite easily do 8 stereo pairs of synced JamMans without any headache of working it out) The quality of the edp isn't "better" than the JamMan. Better top end, but not so solid in the bass. Certainly not a lower noise level. ( I've AB'ed them directly ) Looperlative is said to be of higher quality than both edp and JamMan. (never tried it though) If you stick with the edps, please let us know how it worked out. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 13:00:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 719063BEB5; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=MiAVdLvL0nmOqbzgiWhNwzGZV5u7d9NBttj8sdK/vkt5act5XBDIkvWfqhMtGTNsGaWLq64jRxG5m2uXTf8XoWbAZ0taAFSCe5Mw+gG4jX6+aUd1qeOjM5PGoQjUJE6z6W7b0cNK5BTeIbYP9U6CKG0hayoUvybC/bl7a4iW6+A=; X-YMail-OSG: Q16637QVM1lCTdMSYqgXoVd_yBzuzR_Ew2KhMoMphtKGQd..e47VDyRM.sYryofL0dW6YrrwmbmYV9e1bGYnJZyKVZTxXbU7LLSw9dcHBSgCvTz4qoqxzw-- Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 05:00:23 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: adrian belew : electronic guitar (vhs) To: nick@12testing.net, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, scott hansen In-Reply-To: <459E4D16.11670.C114A6@nick.12testing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <741056.45051.qm@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4z-X6B.A.ZeH.p15nFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi Nick, Thanx for the link on David Torns video! if anybody has it available in europe i am interested so let me know or we could copy-swap i have this great one as well: http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Preston-Reed-Expanding-Acoustic-Playing/dp/B000ENBT2G/sr=8-4/qid=1168087975/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4/102-6033876-4595321?ie=UTF8&s=dvd Lots of good tricks on acoustic guitar! Cheers Luis --- "nick@12testing.net" wrote: > On 4 Jan 2007 at 13:10, scott hansen wrote: > > > just a quick note: for xmas i got the video (yes, > video!)-adrian > > belew: electronic guitar... > > I have this too - it's a lot of fun to see how he > creates all those > animal noises ;) > > > racks are full of all the old analog stuff i > used to dream about > > when i first started playing back in the early > 80's.... > > Indeed and he's lucky enough to have a roadie to > cart them all around > with him ;) > > You ought to check out the 2 David Torn vids of a > similar nature > > http://www.activemusician.com/music--david_torn > > I think these vids are worth having simply to > see/hear these > inspirational artists in action, unencumbered by > drummers & the like > ;) > > > All the best, > > Nick Robinson > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 15:34:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22C7E3BEB9; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 15:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:35:03 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #510 for January 4, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <459FC1A7.8030907@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 15:34:04 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070104.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and webcasting on the internet. Show #510 January 4, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Irrlicht" on Revisited Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Trans Harmonic Nights" by Peter Baumann on Virgin Records and released in 1979. Klaus Schulze: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#jan PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Peter Baumann Chasing the Dream Trans Harmonic Nights (Virgin) John Lyell Red Shift Dimensions (none) Ololiuqui Flightchekker Other Side of Odra (Ricochet Dream) Ian Boddy Never Forever Elemental (DiN) Ian Boddy Stormfront Elemental (DiN) Franziska Baumann Voicesphere Eternal Ice Melts (Soleilmoon) Icehooked V.03 Lustmord Sol Om On The Place Where the Black Stars Hang (Soleilmoon) Klaus Schulze Ebene Irrlicht (Revisited) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Klaus Schulze Ebene (continued) Irrlicht (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Gewitter Irrlicht (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Exil Sils Maria Irrlich (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Dungeon Irrlicht (Revisited) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Angst" on Revisited Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Chronolyse" by Richard Pinhas on Cobra Records and released in 1976. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 17:02:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77C983BEC2; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e8y0rLm++cWJijwzXf1wVFHyPHvjl1HIXxGjfwcbWtG9zD6JhYZctG9sNUSkJj2yi/B+k94RsHcMtTxjbdXjZjzlNBdVrGXpaq6LMtomX8qU1z+PaVhdyBwwldnBmK9zvGs5LjbEoEo8SfTB3zPWAVQHyxVJMU/VPAqevPKX61Y= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:02:55 -0700 From: "Doug Wellington" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070106112316.01b26868@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105091441.01a46098@tiscali.co.uk> <459EDDC0.8040303@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070106112316.01b26868@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:02:57 +0000 (UTC) On 1/6/07, a k butler wrote: > Looperlative would have been a better option. > ..one unit to do what you want. > > http://www.looperlative.com/ > > [SNIP] > > Looperlative is said to be of higher quality than both edp and JamMan. > (never tried it though) I have a Looperlative as well as two EDPs. To my ear, the Looperlative is better, and I have one of the original ones before Bob did the noise reduction mod! (He does the mod for free - I just have to give it up for long enough to send it in.) If you want up to eight stereo loopers in one box with no sync headaches, the Looperlative is the only way to go... Doug From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 17:45:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A3033BEC5; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070106174540.98099.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=kASdZ/YnkNxo7SIgYJJaVxwoy0YCklsyHCkfm4ZOC84bmAPzX9DYyLCiJnKT09FKccOdsFcgR1KfzM1RCmg1qmG2AFiALOah7JpLS8CeclOjWUe4rJ8Excj2VzBRldaKHU99Nb/epIp/MxqFT6qmQaHYFg2Igv0310cGw3Ndglg=; X-YMail-OSG: eDbbtAsVM1lUN0QljamzCwN9hitjogXoo0RCornWE.IyAM3PtrO..OaD4wQ9W64DeEK6jxw8IIysbU4Xas3BFa24kOFcP5A.24e8CV.lgMCFmqXoQFJYS3E.5CWmvvGWnqT4pxo30MeUYu0- Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 09:45:40 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:45:41 +0000 (UTC) --- Doug Wellington wrote: > you want up to eight > stereo loopers in one box with no sync headaches, > the Looperlative is > the only way to go... http://www.zonemobius.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 18:27:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8BEC3BEC1; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 18:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nik Reply-To: Nik To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: adrian belew : electronic guitar (vhs) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 18:26:29 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer:EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: i-default Resent-Message-ID: <1_2DMB.A.q6B.Oo-nFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 18:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Cheers, but the David Torn link wasn't me. Nik ________________ Reply Header ________________ Subject: Re: adrian belew : electronic guitar (vhs) Author: "L.A. Angulo" Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:00:23 +0000 Hi Nick, Thanx for the link on David Torns video! if anybody has it available in europe i am interested so let me know or we = could copy-swap i have this great one as well: http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Preston-Reed-Expanding-Acoustic-Playing/dp/B000= ENBT2G/sr=3D8-4/qid=3D1168087975/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_4/102-6033876-4595321?ie=3D= UTF8&s=3Ddvd Lots of good tricks on acoustic guitar! Cheers Luis --- "nick@12testing.net" wrote: > On 4 Jan 2007 at 13:10, scott hansen wrote: >=20 > > just a quick note: for xmas i got the video (yes, > video!)-adrian > > belew: electronic guitar... >=20 > I have this too - it's a lot of fun to see how he > creates all those=20 > animal noises ;) >=20 > > racks are full of all the old analog stuff i > used to dream about > > when i first started playing back in the early > 80's.... >=20 > Indeed and he's lucky enough to have a roadie to > cart them all around=20 > with him ;) >=20 > You ought to check out the 2 David Torn vids of a > similar nature >=20 > http://www.activemusician.com/music--david_torn >=20 > I think these vids are worth having simply to > see/hear these=20 > inspirational artists in action, unencumbered by > drummers & the like=20 > ;) >=20 >=20 > All the best, >=20 > Nick Robinson >=20 >=20 www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 21:57:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D444C3BEB5; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701062157.l06LvoYP053414@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:57:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Accxun1YISl3tl8IS7eu4A7M/pkqGgAIS7Ig In-Reply-To: <20070106174540.98099.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=1.0 tests=AWL,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:57:54 +0000 (UTC) I was going to chime in with the same response. No matter how you slice it, midi tempo sync is at best, a fallible way of synchronizing multiple processors, sequencers and drum machines. Some midi clock devices are more solid than others, problems eventually surface with drift, and of course one needs a midi patch bay with multiple outputs and good filtering, to make everything work smoothly. One of the liberating things about the looperlative is it does, all of the things you are asking for, with out all the head ache of using multiple loopers to achieve it. Save yourself time, money, hassle and cartage issues and get a Looperlative and a good midi foot controller. I use a behringer, it's cheap but works well, the Roland FC200 would be a better bet with more CC pedal ports, if your client likes to control functions like feedback, volume or record speed with expression pedals. Good lick Bill -----Original Message----- From: mark sottilaro [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 9:46 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY --- Doug Wellington wrote: > you want up to eight > stereo loopers in one box with no sync headaches, > the Looperlative is > the only way to go... http://www.zonemobius.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 6 22:11:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBB863BEC5; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A02CC0.40902@imt.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:12:00 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105091441.01a46098@tiscali.co.uk> <459EDDC0.8040303@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070106112316.01b26868@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070106112316.01b26868@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6Zn2gB.A.GdD.T6BoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Wow...that sounds ideal! Finally sounds like maybe somebody put together the product. I'd have done that years ago if I had the bucks to pour into it. Todd is checking it out. That may solve the problem. I'm assuming you can get three stereo tracks out from the look of the backplane? We could just alter our control setup to MIDI probably, but at 7 bit midi volume control isn't the best of course. He's doing high end productions and wants everything audibly smooth. Let me describe what I built for him. He has a box that gives him all the record/erase etc. controls for each individual jamman. He has another box across the volume pedal from it that has 4 LED volume bar graph indicators, above a mute switch for each channel, and a 'select switch below that with a multicolor LED to indicate mute on the red part and Select on the Green part. So in other words muted and selected = orangeish. If you have it in that position you can change the volume on that track along with any other selected tracks to the value the pedal is currently oriented at. This allows you, for instance, to select a previously recorded track that was muted, drop it's volume, then un-mute it and bring it gradually back into the mix while playing something else etc. So basically it's just a very practical performance controller for a one man show. Todd has like 500 or some such number of instruments from around the world and takes some of them on the road to demonstrate them in school assemblies or open performances. www.toddgreen.com Anyway, worse case scenario, if these things can sync reliably and can be individually started/stopped, he can probably get by using 4 of them for the purposes we're talking about. Space saved is always a good thing. In which case we'll have some edp's for sale probably. I have three of them here I'm testing. He's calling them and hopefully there's a way to hi-res control the volume internally in which case he might be able to get by with one though ideally he wants at least 4 independent outs to work with. --Bob a k butler wrote: > At 23:22 05/01/2007, you wrote: > >> Hehe. Yeah...the idea is obviously to sync them....not to just brag >> about how many you have. :-) >> >> This is for Todd Green. He does seminars with a jamman setup I built >> an interface for years ago. He wants to get stereo and up the >> quality a bit. > > > Looperlative would have been a better option. > ..one unit to do what you want. > > http://www.looperlative.com/ > > may even now be easier to sell the 8 edps and just get a Looperlative > (which will quite easily do 8 stereo pairs of synced JamMans without > any headache of working it out) > > > The quality of the edp isn't "better" than the JamMan. > Better top end, but not so solid in the bass. > Certainly not a lower noise level. > ( I've AB'ed them directly ) > > Looperlative is said to be of higher quality than both edp and JamMan. > (never tried it though) > > If you stick with the edps, please let us know how it worked out. > > andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 02:48:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08D5F3BEC5; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 02:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070107024802.51453.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=xBgfqWq2OlsAorUw/Or66xgVzRjDKvLoQfaiYOJH3ffSMT+xvztX8+GjlzmuAQ7TzC48rSRMA+/IRiO57mMeyUTEcSwvs1nsrrj5CkhHn+SHSHgjwku5UCaV2jOqXnyGuVVE9683Ze+HzeKp5/a6uWGf9yC16V1asX4DtdmpQHM=; X-YMail-OSG: yOPilvUVM1nbpB3.EqM140fd3ZLFwIOtCexfcOigFN4YIhZoRj0ILR8AzBkpMCqkjg-- Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 18:48:02 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: In Praise of Stomp Box Pedals was: ModFx on ebay To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <022f01c7305c$c8e95d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 02:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Oh man, that brings back memories of the days I put a Yamaha PSR... something threw all my guitar effects. At the time I remember thinking it sounded amazing. That was my main keyboard until I picked up a used Roland Juno 106 years later. Proof that it's not about how much you spend, but what you do with it. Now if only I could convince myself of that the next time some really cool vsti comes out... Mark --- RICK WALKER wrote: > I'm glad to hear someone else has this approach. > Back in the New Wave days before I could afford a > synthesizer > I used a really cheap original Casio keyboard > through guitar effects > pedals. > I even put a Fairlight CMI sign on it as a joke. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 07:46:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4287D3BECF; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 07:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:44:31 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 07:46:44 +0000 (UTC) At 02:10 AM 1/5/2007, Bob Weigel wrote: >I need to get this setup finished for a client who wants to run 8 >echoplexes with 4 stereo sync'd channels basically. > >I think what is happening is..we're going to need some midi filtering >unless there is some way I'm missing to internally filter the start >recording messages :-). Because right now, when one starts, they all >start or some such thing. Put each pair on a different midi channel. Connect the two units in each pair together with BrotherSync. Connect the midi from Out to In of each Echoplex. Don't use the midi thru, the intelligent MIDIpipe feature in the Echoplex prevents unnecessary commands from getting piled up. Thru isn't really needed. MIDI clock is global so they will still all get clock from the master pair. the MIDIpipe feature of the Echoplex will filter out extra StartSong messages and such. Note that using MIDI sync forces you to have one pair always be the master, so you start loops there and the downstream units will get the sync. We designed the Echoplex to support this sort of use, it should work ok. There are other ways to sync as well. For example all the units could be connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to set the tempo for the others. This is especially nice for group or band situations. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 07:55:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF7673BED0; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 07:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070106234720.05308a50@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:55:42 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070105091441.01a46098@tiscali.co.uk> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105091441.01a46098@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 07:55:44 +0000 (UTC) At 01:31 AM 1/5/2007, a k butler wrote: >The standard Brother-sync-Midi-linked configuration for a pair of edps >won't work as a MIDI slave, >as the slave of the pair won't sync until the master has finished >recording a loop. that's not correct. A BrotherSync'd Echoplex pair can sync to incoming MIDI clock just fine. Both units of the pair will work in unison. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 08:12:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 449973BECF; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A0B990.6050701@imt.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 01:12:48 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:12:15 +0000 (UTC) excellent also. I'll see what todd wants to do. I dont' know if the other product suggest is smoke/mirrors for our app or if it's real expensive but if he goes with the edp I'll keep this advise around. Yeah I figured doing the brother sync for the stereo pairs. The midi out to in ...I guess means that each unit generates a sync signal to the out that reflects what's coming in which is good. We'll get back to it soon and try this while I have the units here in any case. -Bob Kim Flint wrote: > At 02:10 AM 1/5/2007, Bob Weigel wrote: > >> I need to get this setup finished for a client who wants to run 8 >> echoplexes with 4 stereo sync'd channels basically. >> >> I think what is happening is..we're going to need some midi filtering >> unless there is some way I'm missing to internally filter the start >> recording messages :-). Because right now, when one starts, they all >> start or some such thing. > > > Put each pair on a different midi channel. Connect the two units in > each pair together with BrotherSync. > > Connect the midi from Out to In of each Echoplex. Don't use the midi > thru, the intelligent MIDIpipe feature in the Echoplex prevents > unnecessary commands from getting piled up. Thru isn't really needed. > > MIDI clock is global so they will still all get clock from the master > pair. the MIDIpipe feature of the Echoplex will filter out extra > StartSong messages and such. Note that using MIDI sync forces you to > have one pair always be the master, so you start loops there and the > downstream units will get the sync. > > We designed the Echoplex to support this sort of use, it should work ok. > > There are other ways to sync as well. For example all the units could > be connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to set the > tempo for the others. This is especially nice for group or band > situations. > > kim > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 08:36:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C96423BEB9; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070106235946.05308908@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 00:36:56 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:36:58 +0000 (UTC) At 02:06 AM 1/5/2007, a k butler wrote: >I hadn't realised that the edp could also send a pulse for beatsyncing, >...anyone got the details for that? When Sync=Out, the Echoplex sends out pulses through the BeatSync jack at the beginning of each loop cycle. When Sync=In, the Echoplex receives pulses through BeatSync and syncs itself to them. The pulse can be from any sort of source, a mic next to a drum, a metronome, a momentary switch, another echoplex, the pulse sync outputs of various pre-midi gear, any kind of line level audio pulse, etc. You can also trigger loops with BeatSync, that's fun too. Normally you would use BrotherSync to synchronize Echoplexes since it is nicely bidirectional, but you could use BeatSync if that wasn't an issue. It's in the manual, page 6-3: http://www.gibson.com/files/amps/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 09:01:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E9C73BEC1; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 09:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070107004728.07364958@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 01:01:40 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <45A0B990.6050701@imt.net> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> <45A0B990.6050701@imt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 09:01:43 +0000 (UTC) At 01:12 AM 1/7/2007, Bob Weigel wrote: >Yeah I figured doing the brother sync for the stereo pairs. The midi out >to in ...I guess means that each unit generates a sync signal to the out >that reflects what's coming in which is good. The Echoplex does an intelligent MIDI merge between the MIDI in and MIDI out connections. We called it MIDIpipe. Whatever comes in to the MIDI in gets sent back out the MIDI out, and whatever MIDI commands the Echoplex itself is generating are mixed into that stream to the MIDI out. However, it is intelligent and will not send a command through if it will just be a duplicated command. We designed this in LoopIV because people wanted to string together multiple Echoplexes in so many different ways. This makes it possible for a lot more combinations to work easily, and still all be controlled in a simple fashion from one controller. For example, if a MIDI clock message came from a previous unit in the chain and the unit doing the merging is also ready to send a clock command (maybe they were all starting a loop together), it will be smart enough to know there is already a clock and not duplicate it. Your drum machine at the end won't suddenly go into double time. This is all really transparent. The point is for it to Just Work so you shouldn't have to worry about it or care what is going on behind the scenes. plug and play. I explained it much better in the manual, page 7-8: http://www.gibson.com/files/amps/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 11:09:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D87833BEB9; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070107110907.5700.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=co0EcV+aDPTfAJQXpnDOjFppVjPqVOLjV7UE/0SM+QC9J8+v7D1SED6XStDYLyiswTZovehmtV8KHjn/XfS/EbtCFODX9eQr3TeZuz2S40ceR956vJASZ9eItAajK8M0oHO8qu+wjwfvBO2MyfMYknxt6JGbptmWe/d4pAcj9Zg=; X-YMail-OSG: .wwvbUEVM1m1Dx84ATAmbOlXKtm2NxTMXzTxc2czsR1vCn6fpBS9g05svL0jItB6HEr9N6xarTJZcBgGBKulNl49zePGY4OgyG_KfPZILGqCS0QJPArU Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 03:09:07 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: guitar wireless systems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070102234903.57719.qmail@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:09:09 +0000 (UTC) before buying i would like to hear your opinion on this dudes: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AKG-WMS-40-PROGuitarbug-UHF-Wireless-System-?sku=275682 thanx Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 11:25:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21C0A3BEC7; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070107112502.18863.qmail@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ivbcKT4cZBcAiXuUopZ+uQsKsZC1AVohmFJ851dlw8OZYAYW2qkGa3MVaoetLRgJ7ompidz9qvpZrSsjnPo35xiuD/Xdw7dxcZvGbaAPMPQXSHHGiZctILB9raR5Uj+4buzxv0w3+uG719qds4kj1HKlmn2ZeY3Pnn7iG77afhA=; X-YMail-OSG: NMdtJZoVM1nFL9Pv.pRH37NVQIKPyU4VcOiTt2RQrzbgMO8.pM.IZRuM_57zo.1kzi2YH_zKZ5ywXLm3LqYtYhb0y3pDOyMcnvrSow1UA22W88dE0lGHYg-- Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 03:25:01 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2817B681-BF98-453F-A10A-0FA10350E0D4@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:25:04 +0000 (UTC) I have to throw in my 2 cents here,the integrated RME fireface 800 preamps and speakers simulation is nothing but killer either for bass or guitar! it really sounds wonderful without having to buy x-tra hardware. The only thing i have to nag about the fireface 800 preamp soundcard is trying to play a DVD,it glitches like hell and ive tried just about everything,it won´t do it however when you play a downloaded film .mov .avi or audio.So i have to change my souncard preferences to the PCs sigmatel audio everytime i want to play a DVD.Or if u have a suggestion or solution please let me know! cheers Luis --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 2-Jan-07, at 8:31 AM, margaret noble wrote: > > > Hello List, > > > > I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art > for > > my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed > to > > sound as good as if not better then my Presonus > > pre-amp (which has no tube). > > > Now, i have heard it to be widely accepted that > many > > prefer tubes because they create a warmer sound. > So i > > read a bit to see if i could understand why? > > > The Presonus is very good. I bought one many years > ago, based on > recommendations from colleges and reviews. I still > don't feel any > need to get something more modern, tubes or not. The > Presonus sounds > so good in pair with my AKG C 414 B-TL2 (the only > better set-up I've > tried was two borrowed Neuman U-69). I've used the > Presonus at live > concerts as well, playing sax close mic through it. > > Speaking about recording I have ran into two > particular situations > where a pre amp, as the Presonus, does not give me > the best result. > The first is when sampling analog synthesizers (to > build sample > instrument packages for sampler playback), where I > found out that you > achieve a more true sound by plugging the analog > synth output > directly into the recorder (computer audio > interface). The other > situation is when recording electric guitar for the > purpose of sound > design libraries that will ship to computer aided > producers. These > people tend to use software (Guitar Amp Pro, NI's > Guitar Rack etc > etc) to emulate amp and speaker cabinet, usually a > real loudspeaker's > sonic character caught as impulse response and > applied to the sound I > deliver. What I do then is to use a 50w tube amp > top, Sovtek mig-60 > (12AX7A tubes, similar in sound the Marshall Plexi) > but recording > directly from the line output instead of sticking a > mic to the cab. > By this method I get the harmonic overtone > distortion added by the > preamp tubes (making even clean sound more > "musical") so the user of > the sample library can run this recording through > the power amp and > speaker cabinet impulse response software of his own > choice. This > little 12AX roundtrip does a lot to the sound. > > > how would i know technically (besides listening) > if i > > have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs in my > manual > > that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"? > > I don't dare even trying to answer that. I always > listen and fell > fully confident with making my decision based on how > different gear > sounds. But there are also other aspects on gear, > besides how it > sounds. Even though I love the tube sound of my > Sovtek I prefer to > use a little solid state combo, Gallien-Krüger with > two 10" speakers, > when I play electric guitar live, simply because its > faster response > time. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 11:33:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C66C3BEC7; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAJBpoEXUSnIvh2dsb2JhbACNPQEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070107105203.01a97b08@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 11:33:52 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-74B4536D Resent-Message-ID: <-lugjB.A.c8.QqNoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:33:37 +0000 (UTC) At 07:44 07/01/2007, you wrote: >At 02:10 AM 1/5/2007, Bob Weigel wrote: >>I need to get this setup finished for a client who wants to run 8 >>echoplexes with 4 stereo sync'd channels basically. >> >>I think what is happening is..we're going to need some midi >>filtering unless there is some way I'm missing to internally filter >>the start recording messages :-). Because right now, when one >>starts, they all start or some such thing. > >Put each pair on a different midi channel. Connect the two units in >each pair together with BrotherSync. > >Connect the midi from Out to In of each Echoplex. Don't use the midi >thru, the intelligent MIDIpipe feature in the Echoplex prevents >unnecessary commands from getting piled up. Thru isn't really needed. > >MIDI clock is global so they will still all get clock from the >master pair. the MIDIpipe feature of the Echoplex will filter out >extra StartSong messages and such. Note that using MIDI sync forces >you to have one pair always be the master, so you start loops there >and the downstream units will get the sync. > >We designed the Echoplex to support this sort of use, it should work ok. It didn't work when I tried it ( at Mathon, with Matthias). I had my 2 edps Brother synced, both Sync=Out Receiving Midi clock on Midi Input of edp1. edp1 midi out connected to edp2 midi in. What happens is that the master of the pair gets the looptime from the incoming midi, but the slave doesn't. To record a stereo loop I had to 1) make a silent loop on edp1 2) wait for edp2 to sync to edp1 3) record silent loop on edp2 4) use O/D I didn't have a midi splitter to try directly connecting both edps to incoming midi ( via midi-controller), but that should have worked. I don't remember, as it was a while back and I didn't midi-sync again. ...but I think I got around it by setting EDPs to Sync=In (may have taken out the brother sync) Sync=In disables brother sync ( as far as I know) so the sync shifts around a bit ( but it never goes right out, which happens occasionally with Brother-Sync ) >There are other ways to sync as well. For example all the units >could be connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to set >the tempo for the others. This is especially nice for group or band situations. ...but brother-sync is problematic for more than 1 EDP ...isn't it? >kim andy butler ps where's Claude?? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 11:36:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 192A73BED0; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAO5poEXUSnInh2dsb2JhbACNPQEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070107113427.01a9db18@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 11:36:20 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070106234720.05308a50@loopers-delight.com> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105091441.01a46098@tiscali.co.uk> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106234720.05308a50@loopers-delight.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-74B4536D Resent-Message-ID: <4h395D.A.LFB.ksNoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:36:04 +0000 (UTC) At 07:55 07/01/2007, you wrote: >At 01:31 AM 1/5/2007, a k butler wrote: >>The standard Brother-sync-Midi-linked configuration for a pair of >>edps won't work as a MIDI slave, >>as the slave of the pair won't sync until the master has finished >>recording a loop. > >that's not correct. A BrotherSync'd Echoplex pair can sync to >incoming MIDI clock just fine. Both units of the pair will work in unison. > >kim I must have got something set/connected wrong then. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 12:08:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81A883BEB9; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAKpxoEXUSnIvh2dsb2JhbACNPQEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070107114856.01a983a8@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:08:32 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070106235946.05308908@loopers-delight.com> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20070105100115.01c8c010@tiscali.co.uk> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106235946.05308908@loopers-delight.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-74B4536D Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:08:19 +0000 (UTC) At 08:36 07/01/2007, you wrote: >At 02:06 AM 1/5/2007, a k butler wrote: >>I hadn't realised that the edp could also send a pulse for beatsyncing, >>...anyone got the details for that? > >When Sync=Out, the Echoplex sends out pulses through the BeatSync >jack at the beginning of each loop cycle. > >When Sync=In, the Echoplex receives pulses through BeatSync and >syncs itself to them. The pulse can be from any sort of source, a >mic next to a drum, a metronome, a momentary switch, another >echoplex, the pulse sync outputs of various pre-midi gear, any kind >of line level audio pulse, etc. > >You can also trigger loops with BeatSync, that's fun too. so do I have this right? In normal use the edp is just syncing itself when it gets a pulse near enough to the loop Start/End ..but when you hit Mute>>Multiply it retriggers on every pulse (and only plays once) Does that work with the DirectMidi LFRetrigger too? Worth mentioning that this functionality is available from the standard footpedal (or Midi Equivalent) Mute>>Multiply then Insert plays loop once from the start for Stuttering etc. ..and hit Undo during playback to go to continuous looping again. >Normally you would use BrotherSync to synchronize Echoplexes since >it is nicely bidirectional, but you could use BeatSync if that wasn't an issue. > >It's in the manual, page 6-3: >http://www.gibson.com/files/amps/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf > >kim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 12:11:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E62CC3BEC1; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAOZxoEXUSnInh2dsb2JhbACNPQEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070107121045.01ac7008@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:11:35 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: guitar wireless systems In-Reply-To: <20070107110907.5700.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070102234903.57719.qmail@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070107110907.5700.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-74B4536D Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:11:18 +0000 (UTC) At 11:09 07/01/2007, you wrote: >before buying i would like to hear your opinion on >this dudes: > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AKG-WMS-40-PROGuitarbug-UHF-Wireless-System-?sku=275682 > >thanx >Luis a friend has one, he says it changes the sound ..some treble loss andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 12:39:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB57B3BEC2; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=kP3aqip8PMf9BwdAJ9UlPJBri+bbkkc5z7XCJc5znTKf1ZvfzlSK+C8memJ2RPxKOIu8yMX5dQI1UWnrVxI56GsZqvL6nJu9AEh9Q3r7RrH3DIiKjhQiVLkgK7ic0YbvnFFi1IE02OPnxEHP6X/jmfq3xNapKUhMKbNRMQhYiu0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070107105203.01a97b08@tiscali.co.uk> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070107105203.01a97b08@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2D83B5D2-46C1-4910-831E-FB50167455C6@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 13:38:59 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3pQXYC.A.lLD.onOoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:39:04 +0000 (UTC) On 7 jan 2007, at 12.33, a k butler wrote: > ...but brother-sync is problematic for more than 1 EDP > ...isn't it? Now that's a cryptic statement! ;-)) I doubt brother-sync can even exist if there isn't more than one EDP? In my own experience we had brother sync going fine among three EDP's when jamming with Matthas Grob and Rick Walker. I noticed then however that every time I ended a multiply with Record my EDP was thrown out of the brotherhood. After doing that action I had to play the rest of the jam with manual sync (retrigger and adjust loop length by ear to match the other musicians loops) because it wasn't possible to get back into the bro-sync again (the establishing bro- sync happens in reset mode, I think). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 13:24:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6EFA3BEC5; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 13:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "gab" To: Subject: RE: OT: rme fireface (was: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion.) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:24:11 +0100 Message-ID: <002101c7325f$20fe09f0$0201a8c0@mahavishnu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20070107112502.18863.qmail@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AccyTntAvDZHI2l1Sp6PEauahjZteQAC1qQg X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 13:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi there, Im a long time lurker, though I don=92t own a looping device (but im = waiting for some weeks for the 2880, getting the pedal is a big problem here in Europe). good information in this group . Thought maybe I could help and shine in. I also own a fireface. And it is a great tool indeed. I use a = reussenzehn blackface (a small preamp with a tube in it) as pre for guitar. And I actually don=92t care if I fool myself, as long as it makes me happy.=20 But about playing dvd's with the fireface800. are you using the newest driver and fut? What software are you using for watching a dvd? And is = this software using the mme, the wdm or the asio drivers? Have you raised the buffer in the settings of the card?=20 I have no problems what so ever for watching dvds with the rme. Even = using surround sound. Feel free to mail me private when you think there is a change I can help, most people here are not interested in reading the outcome I guess. There are also some helpful folks on the newsgroup from = rme www.rme-audio.de. Or you could go to the syntax forum http://www.synthax.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3D4&sid=3D6db2dd9c8c754d32e0= 115088d d46a520 success gab -----Original Message----- From: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, 07 January, 2007 12:25 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. I have to throw in my 2 cents here,the integrated RME fireface 800 preamps and speakers simulation is nothing but killer either for bass or guitar! it really sounds wonderful without having to buy x-tra hardware. The only thing i have to nag about the fireface 800 preamp soundcard is trying to play a DVD,it glitches like hell and ive tried just about everything,it won=B4t do it however when you play a downloaded film .mov .avi or audio.So i have to change my souncard preferences to the PCs sigmatel audio everytime i want to play a DVD.Or if u have a suggestion or solution please let me know! cheers Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 14:13:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB5103BECF; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002401c73266$0cd7c9f0$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <002101c7325f$20fe09f0$0201a8c0@mahavishnu> Subject: Re: OT: rme fireface (was: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion.) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:13:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:397775b7a70d9e9b11c0f2c5ded06394 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:13:46 +0000 (UTC) i bought the 2880 in germany and waited for the pedal several months. then i ordered it in the states and had it a week later. try here: AnalogMike@aol.com http://www.analogman.com you can paypal, they seem to be cool. tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "gab" To: Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: RE: OT: rme fireface (was: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion.) Hi there, Im a long time lurker, though I don't own a looping device (but im waiting for some weeks for the 2880, getting the pedal is a big problem here in Europe). good information in this group . Thought maybe I could help and shine in. I also own a fireface. And it is a great tool indeed. I use a reussenzehn blackface (a small preamp with a tube in it) as pre for guitar. And I actually don't care if I fool myself, as long as it makes me happy. But about playing dvd's with the fireface800. are you using the newest driver and fut? What software are you using for watching a dvd? And is this software using the mme, the wdm or the asio drivers? Have you raised the buffer in the settings of the card? I have no problems what so ever for watching dvds with the rme. Even using surround sound. Feel free to mail me private when you think there is a change I can help, most people here are not interested in reading the outcome I guess. There are also some helpful folks on the newsgroup from rme www.rme-audio.de. Or you could go to the syntax forum http://www.synthax.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=6db2dd9c8c754d32e0115088d d46a520 success gab -----Original Message----- From: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, 07 January, 2007 12:25 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. I have to throw in my 2 cents here,the integrated RME fireface 800 preamps and speakers simulation is nothing but killer either for bass or guitar! it really sounds wonderful without having to buy x-tra hardware. The only thing i have to nag about the fireface 800 preamp soundcard is trying to play a DVD,it glitches like hell and ive tried just about everything,it won´t do it however when you play a downloaded film .mov .avi or audio.So i have to change my souncard preferences to the PCs sigmatel audio everytime i want to play a DVD.Or if u have a suggestion or solution please let me know! cheers Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 14:15:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CCCD3BEE0; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAADKPoEXUSnIwh2dsb2JhbACNPAEBCQ4q Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070107140246.01bcea80@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:15:14 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <2D83B5D2-46C1-4910-831E-FB50167455C6@gmail.com> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070107105203.01a97b08@tiscali.co.uk> <2D83B5D2-46C1-4910-831E-FB50167455C6@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-737D1B69 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:15:00 +0000 (UTC) At 12:38 07/01/2007, you wrote: >On 7 jan 2007, at 12.33, a k butler wrote: > >>...but brother-sync is problematic for more than 1 EDP >>...isn't it? > > >Now that's a cryptic statement! ;-)) I doubt brother-sync can even >exist if there isn't more than one EDP? er.. ..more than 2 :-) >In my own experience we had brother sync going fine among three EDP's >when jamming with Matthas Grob and Rick Walker. Had problems when Bernhard Wagner brought his edp here to sync with my stereo setup. You have to start with all edps in reset, then start the loops one at a time. >I noticed then >however that every time I ended a multiply with Record my EDP was >thrown out of the brotherhood. After doing that action I had to play >the rest of the jam with manual sync (retrigger and adjust loop >length by ear to match the other musicians loops) because it wasn't >possible to get back into the bro-sync again (the establishing bro- >sync happens in reset mode, I think). yes you'd have to stop the loop >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 17:27:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DD483BEE6; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "muman" To: Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 09:29:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: original ground control midi pedal? Message-ID: <45A0BD5F.10708.196527DD@muman.eskimo.com> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200701060101.l0611CTl058548@mail.cruzio.com> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:27:28 +0000 (UTC)

Zoe,
Here is a little article I did for a Chapman Stick site. The original GC will send 8 different MIDI messages simultaneously. If you do get a GC, make sure you have software 2.5. If DMC does not have anymore, I think I have one left.


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Ground Control and Ground Control Pro
First off, the Ground Control (GC). It was developed by Digital Music Corp. to control their guitar effects pedals switching system. In addition, it will also simultaneously control up to 8 different MIDI devices. The nice thing about the GC, is that you can select which MIDI device you wish to control. The switches can also to be set up as 5 Program Change switches and 5 Control Change switches.

The GC is very inexpensive used ($150-$200). It can be easily upgraded to the newest software (version 2.5) with a new chip ($30 from DMC). Please note that a chip socket is needed to install the new software. GC with software 1.0 do not have the chip socket, 1.1 and above do have the chip socket.

The Ground Control Pro has replaced the GC. It is a larger unit, has more buttons, and is of heavier duty construction. It does about the same things the GC does.  I could find no real difference in function.

Rocktron MIDI Mate
The Rocktron MIDI Mate appears to be, at first glance, a fairly sophisticated control pedal. It has the standard 10 switches. It also allows the switches to be set up as 5 Program Change switches and 5 Control Change switches. The only problem with the MIDI Mate is that it is designed to control only a single MIDI device. It can send additional MIDI information to other MIDI devices, but you can't select which MIDI device you wish to control.

MOTU MIDI Time Piece
This handy 1 rack space device is essentially a MIDI router. It has 8 MIDI inputs and 8 MIDI outputs. Any input can be assigned to any output. Any input can be merged with any other input; no limit on the amount of merged groups. Any MIDI channel can be assigned to any output. MIDI channels can be individually merged. Any MIDI channel can be muted. This can all be done with the controls on the unit itself or programmed externally using a computer.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoe Keating [mailto:cello@zoekeating.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:04 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: OT: original ground control midi pedal?
>
> Has anyone ever used the old Ground Control midi pedal (the long 
> rectangular one)?
>
> I'm trying to find out how many messages the thing can send at once 
> (how many CC, PC and Note message) and across how many channels.
>
> If any one knows....?
>
> thanks!
>
> Zoe
>
>
>
>




Louis Hesselt-van-Dinter
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 19:56:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6878F3BEC1; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45607.70.16.146.163.1168199774.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:56:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: boss GE-7 eq question... From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: analogue@hyperreal.org, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:56:20 +0000 (UTC) anyone familiar with this puppy? I just picked one up and it seems that three of the more mid-rage sliders have no effect eithr cutting or boosting the sound. figured some of the levels would be more subtle than others but the low and high end and two in the middle really scoop the sound a lot for I figure I should be able to hear *some* differnce no? I am using a fresh battery and tried it on two guitars and two synths at various pitches. The unit looks brand new so I cant imagine what could be wrong with it but it seems a little weird and there is no differnece when tweaking. Anyone ever run into this? Any/all help appreciated thanks! -- ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 7 23:38:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 941E73BEB3; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 23:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fAKLnDTDlObWYeY3mj6kqTN0CT87hAnzzJKQHT+AszKtfbsDNMJQGbCKbRp87AGCDnhaL1did9/SxoQ6ZOnSs8vDhA6FRN5bcAbIJ13XvICTLEuwIaoo7rNa+f7TAj9dFnv02Hmsg5UgVfWVfeRHJSgiOmEmdHviM7XfiPiFoZQ= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:38:29 -0500 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP For Sale ($600)!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 23:38:32 +0000 (UTC) No one is interested? I guess I could do $600 even, that would include shipping. I have never set up a "sellers acount" on ebay and dont really feel like doing it. $600 is a good deal, I am sure one of you wants it. On 1/4/07, Mark Trewella wrote: > I have a blackface Echoplex Digital Pro Plus for sale. Its running > Loop IV and has full memory. I bought the unit exactly two years ago. > Everything is in perfect working condition, the unit has a slight > surface scratch on the top (if you rack it you wont even see it). > Comes with original manual. $600 + shipping (probably $30) gets it to > your door. I am a long time LD member but have been unsubscribed for > sometime cause I could not deal with 20 emails a day and important > emails where getting lost in the herd! However I still check the > archive from time to time to keep up. Payment can be made through > paypal or money order. Also, I live in NYC, if you live in NYC as > well or can make it to NYC that would be even simpler and would save > money on shipping. Anyone interested email me off list. I will give > it a few days and see if any you guys want it and if not I guess I > will go to ebay. > > -Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 00:36:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DE353BED0; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 00:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com auth-sender: lab_monkey@mail2world.com thread-index: AccyvRDhTvnYHyqPROSEIgFIjThzag== Thread-Topic: HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE !!???? From: "Ior Bock" To: Cc: Subject: HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE !!???? 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------=_NextPart_000_0B20_01C7327A.02C062B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 00:44:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 152B53BEDA; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 00:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:43:40 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: aleatoric12@gmail.com Subject: Re: HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE !!???? In-Reply-To: <0b1f01c732bd$10e3a2b0$66ca010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: References: <0b1f01c732bd$10e3a2b0$66ca010a@mail2world.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 00:44:34 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, 7 Jan 2007, Ior Bock wrote: > unsubscribe http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_hiliter/LDarchive/200612/msg00569.html?line=10#hilite From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 01:51:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 529893BEC5; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 01:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A1A39C.4060206@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:51:24 +0100 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT - Opening an Alesis ModFX (?) References: <014d01c72fa7$772229c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <459D1557.8000205@infinivert.com> <459D1DCD.903@rhein-zeitung.de> <1949.65.94.55.252.1168027111.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <2086.65.94.55.252.1168028875.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: <2086.65.94.55.252.1168028875.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 01:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Yes I have opened one my units some time ago just because of the same symptoms (the rattling thing inside was a screw from the digital interface connector). I remember it was no fun. Tried the same thing with my rattling PHLNGR right now - and didn't manage to open it entirely. So I opened it so far that it wouldn't break and shaked it - and there was the screw ;-) As the interface connector is also soldered on the board, the missing screw shouldn't cause any problems - I closed the unit again without trying any longer. Maybe you have to unscrew the analog audio connectors, too, to get into the unit.... Dirk scott@dreamstate.to schrieb: > While unpacking my beloved Alesis Bitrman after a New Years jam > I noticed something rattling inside. There is one screw on the bottom > which I have now removed (and I can't spot any others) but the top > is still reluctant to be removed so that I can see what's what inside. > > Has anyone here successfully/safely opened up a ModFX > and can you give me clues as how to proceed next? > > I've pushed down gentley on the knobs (with no useful result yet) > but I'm wary of crunching something inside by pushing too hard. > > Thanks in advance, > Scott M2 > > http://www.dreamSTATE.to > ambientelectronicsoundscapes > http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 02:03:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC0E83BED3; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 02:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:03:01 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP For Sale ($600)!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 02:03:57 +0000 (UTC) At 6:38 PM -0500 1/7/07, Mark Trewella wrote: >No one is interested? I guess I could do $600 even, that would >include shipping. I have never set up a "sellers acount" on ebay and >dont really feel like doing it. $600 is a good deal, I am sure one >of you wants it. I wish I could afford it! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 02:31:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8162D3BED6; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 02:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GnnYchyF64K24fsVlj8RZY2mV1W55McJRuAYLmrNeGdTZbsCCTkMFiyvp6NlXfZHvA39nR03c+moNskWL7ytK/KgaN9UNq499eJpq+UTeAwjj4Cp201Kpm2MITZsrpvYSiq6VbaNnCd2M40SECiO7Ka2Wt0HIACp2chdYHqVNJQ= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:31:25 -0500 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP For Sale ($600)!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 02:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Sure thing Michael. On 1/7/07, David Gans wrote: > At 6:38 PM -0500 1/7/07, Mark Trewella wrote: > >No one is interested? I guess I could do $600 even, that would > >include shipping. I have never set up a "sellers acount" on ebay and > >dont really feel like doing it. $600 is a good deal, I am sure one > >of you wants it. > > I wish I could afford it! > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 02:58:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3E023BEDA; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 02:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:49:55 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 02:58:55 +0000 (UTC) I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window. The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved inappropriately. The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected. Hitting RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing. Hitting it again and again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it did not go into playback mode. Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode. Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record. Et cetera. Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write a letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice. Before I sent the letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly. That night at the gig, not so much. Saturday, at another gig: useless. I am at a loss. I am not taking it on tour this week because I can't count on the damn thing. Anyone have any idea what might be going on? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 03:14:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8C9D3BEC5; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aHu+/AWf1FFEiX6QxYU3SHtBA7j7QACwRCw3QuoVIn9XydjYq1ThU2NBP5TgUYJTvXPCiqTvexxkn/DAlycvmWqKd9fQ8wXDYfecVGRfJyKvJxK7+BloimH/TitixF5K33LCRBgNpHB6ivA5vH3ius4jtYbORYi238BvpuK+dA8= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:14:50 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_66197_18942790.1168226090623" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:14:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_66197_18942790.1168226090623 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Are you using the EFC-7 or a MIDI controller? If the former, then I suspect your switches are dirty and/or failing. Does it act wonky from the front control panel? TravisH On 1/7/07, David Gans wrote: > > > > > I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window. > > The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved > inappropriately. The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed > all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected. Hitting > RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing. Hitting it again and > again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it > did not go into playback mode. > > Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode. > Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record. > > Et cetera. > > Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write a > letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice. Before I sent the > letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly. > > That night at the gig, not so much. > > Saturday, at another gig: useless. > > I am at a loss. I am not taking it on tour this week because I can't > count on the damn thing. > > Anyone have any idea what might be going on? > > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > > ------=_Part_66197_18942790.1168226090623 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Are you using the EFC-7 or a MIDI controller?  If the former, then I suspect your switches are dirty and/or failing.

Does it act wonky from the front control panel?

TravisH

On 1/7/07, David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:



I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window.

The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved
inappropriately.  The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed
all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected.  Hitting
RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing.  Hitting it again and
again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it
did not go into playback mode.

Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode.
Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record.

Et cetera.

Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write a
letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice.  Before I sent the
letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly.

That night at the gig, not so much.

Saturday, at another gig: useless.

I am at a loss.  I am not taking it on tour this week because I can't
count on the damn thing.

Anyone have any idea what might be going on?





--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://logblog.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com



------=_Part_66197_18942790.1168226090623-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 03:22:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01BAC3BED0; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A1C6FC.8030304@imt.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:22:20 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Sounds like maybe you just have some dirty switches. Deoxit D5 will often revitalize contacts but I'm not sure what these switches are..wait I think they're the heavy duty ones and not the pc mount tactile ones. Anyway still might be that. Pull it apart and make sure that the switch contacts are clean (.1 ohm or less hopefully) -Bob David Gans wrote: > > > > I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window. > > The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved > inappropriately. The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed > all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected. Hitting > RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing. Hitting it again and > again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it did > not go into playback mode. > > Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode. > Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record. > > Et cetera. > > Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write a > letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice. Before I sent the > letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly. > > That night at the gig, not so much. > > Saturday, at another gig: useless. > > I am at a loss. I am not taking it on tour this week because I can't > count on the damn thing. > > Anyone have any idea what might be going on? > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 03:27:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06C773BEDF; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JAtOhs1Zgask02ulvAaOS4hp/qyOIfSk7VveIOaVJ1GfNPpy95RCPsdmR2wNwf19lo8bgMApVg7gcW76tOEoOMHUSP7Z5pvDBgDNHoOHqHpAqjJC+N4M+An+vEyhzCEBKwZf6J9NDmSvpc2S/JQQStQen8duoK3V19ucmtJ+HJo= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:27:51 -0500 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: <45A1C6FC.8030304@imt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45A1C6FC.8030304@imt.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:27:51 +0000 (UTC) It is most likely your footpedal, try cleaning the contacts as suggested above and test the front panel buttons to cofirm that it is the footpedal and not the EDP that is causing the problems. On 1/7/07, Bob Weigel wrote: > Sounds like maybe you just have some dirty switches. Deoxit D5 will > often revitalize contacts but I'm not sure what these switches are..wait > I think they're the heavy duty ones and not the pc mount tactile ones. > Anyway still might be that. Pull it apart and make sure that the switch > contacts are clean (.1 ohm or less hopefully) -Bob > > David Gans wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window. > > > > The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved > > inappropriately. The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed > > all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected. Hitting > > RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing. Hitting it again and > > again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it did > > not go into playback mode. > > > > Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode. > > Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record. > > > > Et cetera. > > > > Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write a > > letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice. Before I sent the > > letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly. > > > > That night at the gig, not so much. > > > > Saturday, at another gig: useless. > > > > I am at a loss. I am not taking it on tour this week because I can't > > count on the damn thing. > > > > Anyone have any idea what might be going on? > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 03:33:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A24083BECA; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b13CuY36GCSHJRyVYELardWzfvNValPbEcd/QbZO+rWQX6vvQB7lAws0sBotJ18C3m5kTKHgUiV6AaG4BN7UKq/W5tOCIlobPgaBkj44sTQM7wbCwIVEB8+DQWY3Fi+YU/VWArjPDQ5Jv4VAT+bRfqNPg4uVz/WUlEib0jXJjAc= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:33:09 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_66625_23464384.1168227189722" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:33:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_66625_23464384.1168227189722 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If you're using the EFC-7 you can also break out the ohm meter and test that each button is reliably showing the assigned resistance value. Those values are on the LD site under Tools of the Trade somewhere. TravisH On 1/7/07, David Gans wrote: > > > > > I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window. > > The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved > inappropriately. The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed > all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected. Hitting > RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing. Hitting it again and > again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it > did not go into playback mode. > > Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode. > Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record. > > Et cetera. > > > Anyone have any idea what might be going on? > > > > > > -- > > > ------=_Part_66625_23464384.1168227189722 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If you're using the EFC-7 you can also break out the ohm meter and test that each button is reliably showing the assigned resistance value.  Those values are on the LD site under Tools of the Trade somewhere.

TravisH

On 1/7/07, David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:



I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window.

The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved
inappropriately.  The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed
all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected.  Hitting
RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing.  Hitting it again and
again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it
did not go into playback mode.

Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode.
Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record.

Et cetera.


Anyone have any idea what might be going on?





--



------=_Part_66625_23464384.1168227189722-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 03:53:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79F143BEB9; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3b2d602cb4c454fa918143598dd3b797@cox.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: MD Subject: Re: EDP woes Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:00:42 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 03:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Foot pedal. Been there. I replaced all the switches with some from Radio Shack On Jan 7, 2007, at 8:49 PM, David Gans wrote: > > > > I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window. > > The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved > inappropriately. The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed > all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected. Hitting > RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing. Hitting it again and > again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it did > not go into playback mode. > > Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode. > Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record. > > Et cetera. > > Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write a > letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice. Before I sent the > letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly. > > That night at the gig, not so much. > > Saturday, at another gig: useless. > > I am at a loss. I am not taking it on tour this week because I can't > count on the damn thing. > > Anyone have any idea what might be going on? > > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 04:39:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02ACF3BEC5; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 04:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A1D927.6080607@imt.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:39:51 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes References: <3b2d602cb4c454fa918143598dd3b797@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <3b2d602cb4c454fa918143598dd3b797@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 04:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Hmm...radio shack.... I wonder how well the interface debounces? I don't know the technical aspects of these yet as I haven't had to work on one. But often on interfaces that aren't software debounced (or that use my elegant diode flyback design I put on Todd Green's setup last time it was in as some of his buttons started behaving erratically) I've found that switches from sources like Radio shack can create interesting effects. Including double triggering which may be a factor her. -Bob MD wrote: > Foot pedal. Been there. I replaced all the switches with some from > Radio Shack > On Jan 7, 2007, at 8:49 PM, David Gans wrote: > >> >> >> >> I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window. >> >> The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved >> inappropriately. The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed >> all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected. Hitting >> RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing. Hitting it again and >> again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it >> did not go into playback mode. >> >> Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode. >> Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record. >> >> Et cetera. >> >> Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write a >> letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice. Before I sent the >> letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly. >> >> That night at the gig, not so much. >> >> Saturday, at another gig: useless. >> >> I am at a loss. I am not taking it on tour this week because I can't >> count on the damn thing. >> >> Anyone have any idea what might be going on? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >> Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 >> Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com >> Web site: http://www.dgans.com >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 04:47:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8B813BEC5; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 04:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A1DB15.5050609@imt.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:48:05 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Old conn strobe tuner...pre-model number?? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 04:47:37 +0000 (UTC) A guy gave me one of these to sell on ebay. To my amazement I can't find a site that really shows the history of old Conn tuners. This one is vacuum tube so it's at least 60's I'm sure but the thing has such old looking design I'm thinking even pre-50's maybe. The old med. grey finish and a real archaic looking display. NE48 lamp now totally unavailable from suppliers. We got one someone had in stock still. I found one auction for one that went for like 250 that was an older model than the ones that are on there but the auction was too old tosee the pics! --Bob David Gans wrote: > > > > I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window. > > The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved > inappropriately. The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed > all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected. Hitting > RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing. Hitting it again and > again, eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it did > not go into playback mode. > > Sometimes it would go into some sort of incrementing present mode. > Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record. > > Et cetera. > > Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write a > letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice. Before I sent the > letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly. > > That night at the gig, not so much. > > Saturday, at another gig: useless. > > I am at a loss. I am not taking it on tour this week because I can't > count on the damn thing. > > Anyone have any idea what might be going on? > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 05:15:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 447F43BECA; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 05:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <45607.70.16.146.163.1168199774.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> References: <45607.70.16.146.163.1168199774.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-947542919 Message-Id: <8897275B-CB53-4A3C-8032-01E43CDDC7D0@finleysound.com> From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: boss GE-7 eq question... Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:15:03 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: finleysound@fastermac.net X-SpamDetect: *: 1.200000 Suspicious tags-to-text ratio=1.2 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 0, in=1, out=0, spam=0 ip=66.248.87.153 X-Originating-IP: 66.248.87.153 Resent-Message-ID: <-LGAEB.A.hyC.gNdoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 05:15:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-947542919 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I owned one of those bad boys a while back. Yes, you should hear something happening! Especially with guitar. If I remember correctly, it boosts/cuts 12db. Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 7, 2007, at 11:56 AM, legion@helpwantedproductions.com wrote: > > anyone familiar with this puppy? I just picked one up and it seems > that > three of the more mid-rage sliders have no effect eithr cutting or > boosting the sound. > > figured some of the levels would be more subtle than others but > the low > and high end and two in the middle really scoop the sound a lot for I > figure I should be able to hear *some* differnce no? > > I am using a fresh battery and tried it on two guitars and two > synths at > various pitches. The unit looks brand new so I cant imagine what > could be > wrong with it but it seems a little weird and there is no > differnece when > tweaking. > > Anyone ever run into this? Any/all help appreciated > > thanks! > > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: > Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com > > --Apple-Mail-1-947542919 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I owned one of those bad boys a = while back.=A0 Yes, you should hear something happening!=A0 Especially = with guitar.=A0 If I remember correctly, it boosts/cuts 12db.

Matt

---

King Never

http://www.kingnever.com

=

On Jan 7, 2007, at 11:56 AM, legion@helpwantedproducti= ons.com wrote:


anyone = familiar with this puppy? I just picked one up and it seems = that
three of the more mid-rage = sliders have no effect eithr cutting or
boosting = the sound.

=A0figure= d some of the levels would be more subtle than others but the = low
and high end and two in the = middle really scoop the sound a lot for I
figure I = should be able to hear *some* differnce no?

I am using a = fresh battery and tried it on two guitars and two synths at
various pitches. The unit looks brand new so I cant = imagine what could be
wrong with it but it seems = a little weird and there is no differnece when
tweaking.

Anyone ever run into this? = Any/all help appreciated

thanks!

--=A0
=A0=A0 = ------------------------------------------------
=A0 =A0 =A0 = Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art:


=

= --Apple-Mail-1-947542919-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 08:08:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6744E3BEC1; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=B1HKh27IphOYXvUjL4SVc4NZqc2qeu9rRL6Nuq9zDbwv8ozucJamgMXJ2FbmDRxORAgvNAmEeqm4wXKMq3btXREVm5cD4bWmpG6ew7fxX1Jyr5Lw90HR97JY6//99yfT2Dv1zlp+VWWLMhRHZVdLMW6zXvJ5UgZ6PeA9s2KDNlU=; X-YMail-OSG: aEGrVTIVM1ldByfe54MlHpRhqfAbvGS_KF_Hl5SMKgSE1DqFRmU6btlkBZkFVPXjpu1ujtnwQWKHMmRfNFxwM9STgDLoe0jVDgaqro5.YUdfCPNsBdJFhA-- Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 00:08:06 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: OT: rme fireface (was: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002101c7325f$20fe09f0$0201a8c0@mahavishnu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <432543.43138.qm@web38610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Hi Gab, Thank you kindly,yes ive tried all of that,even recently installing Windows service pack sp3 but still not working. Yes, I will contact you offlist hopefully we can get this sorted out is driving me nuts! Luis > > I also own a fireface. And it is a great tool > indeed. I use a reussenzehn > blackface (a small preamp with a tube in it) as pre > for guitar. And I > actually don’t care if I fool myself, as long as it > makes me happy. > > But about playing dvd's with the fireface800. are > you using the newest > driver and fut? What software are you using for > watching a dvd? And is this > software using the mme, the wdm or the asio drivers? > Have you raised the > buffer in the settings of the card? > > I have no problems what so ever for watching dvds > with the rme. Even using > surround sound. Feel free to mail me private when > you think there is a > change I can help, most people here are not > interested in reading the > outcome I guess. There are also some helpful folks > on the newsgroup from rme > www.rme-audio.de. Or you could go to the syntax > forum > http://www.synthax.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=6db2dd9c8c754d32e0115088d > d46a520 > > > success > gab > > -----Original Message----- > From: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, 07 January, 2007 12:25 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and > honest opinion. > > I have to throw in my 2 cents here,the integrated > RME > fireface 800 preamps and speakers simulation is > nothing but killer either for bass or guitar! it > really sounds wonderful without having to buy x-tra > hardware. > The only thing i have to nag about the fireface 800 > preamp soundcard is trying to play a DVD,it glitches > like hell and ive tried just about everything,it > won´t > do it however when you play a downloaded film .mov > .avi or audio.So i have to change my souncard > preferences to the PCs sigmatel audio everytime i > want > to play a DVD.Or if u have a suggestion or solution > please let me know! > cheers > Luis > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 08:11:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A67E3BEC7; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=HtU/Qkdfi6tHoljShAJLLFDMDMJQo+W1A46mBYPtoP0VnqkpigMP9IxjhENISf0tL/N+DNhFg+qrO+U4L9wdDVp36qVzu7xJWZxsOnZIYnVFDCgbD+Vsk3bnHji+hwWATv/phpErsg+1eFyrh6DwiytuuSFdclN3WuJoG84TIik=; X-YMail-OSG: SLGJpRYVM1ktNXSjql4Gc3TkhoPcOPMor6BKxW3FENwxU3i6JcI.vU09UpxMbICjxOoR095LfyL72wuUsL27qbpcyU7O_pcmM47Yk0GH5GStoHARmGHXIg-- Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 00:11:05 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: EDP woes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <160996.68783.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9cxHw.A.pvG.ayfoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:11:07 +0000 (UTC) don´t throw the EDP just the EFC-7 and get the Behringer fcb1010 plus loopIV and you will be in heaven! Luis --- Travis Hartnett wrote: > If you're using the EFC-7 you can also break out the > ohm meter and test that > each button is reliably showing the assigned > resistance value. Those values > are on the LD site under Tools of the Trade > somewhere. > > TravisH > > On 1/7/07, David Gans wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am about ready to throw my EDP out the window. > > > > The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, > it has behaved > > inappropriately. The other day I reset the > defaults and reprogrammed > > all the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I > expected. Hitting > > RECORD on the foot controller got me nothing. > Hitting it again and > > again, eventually it started recording, but when I > hit it again it > > did not go into playback mode. > > > > Sometimes it would go into some sort of > incrementing present mode. > > Sometimes it would go into NEXT LOOP record. > > > > Et cetera. > > > > > > Anyone have any idea what might be going on? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 10:03:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9201B3BEC2; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108015522.05053928@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:03:48 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070107105203.01a97b08@tiscali.co.uk> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070107105203.01a97b08@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:03:48 +0000 (UTC) At 03:33 AM 1/7/2007, a k butler wrote: >>We designed the Echoplex to support this sort of use, it should work ok. > >It didn't work when I tried it ( at Mathon, with Matthias). > >I had my 2 edps Brother synced, >both Sync=Out there's your problem. If you are trying to receive clock, Sync=IN. (on both units). Why would you set it to Sync=out if you are trying to receive sync? >I don't remember, as it was a while back and I didn't midi-sync again. >...but I think I got around it by setting EDPs to Sync=In >(may have taken out the brother sync) no, that's what you are supposed to do. BrotherSync works just fine with Sync=IN, Out, or OuS. >Sync=In disables brother sync ( as far as I know) nope. We designed it to support all these cases transparently. >>There are other ways to sync as well. For example all the units could be >>connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to set the tempo for >>the others. This is especially nice for group or band situations. > >...but brother-sync is problematic for more than 1 EDP >...isn't it? only if you get up to maybe 12 or more. I forget what the limit is but nobody ever reached it so far as I know. The sample clock sync doesn't work so well with multiple units, but usually that only matters for stereo. The BrotherSync part for jamming with multiple echoplexes should work fine. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 10:16:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84FAD3BECC; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108020554.08760190@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:16:08 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:16:27 +0000 (UTC) At 06:49 PM 1/7/2007, David Gans wrote: >The last few times I've tried to use it at gigs, it has behaved >inappropriately. The other day I reset the defaults and reprogrammed all >the settings, and still it wouldn't do what I expected. Hitting RECORD on >the foot controller got me nothing. Hitting it again and again, >eventually it started recording, but when I hit it again it did not go >into playback mode. As others noted, you probably just need to clean or replace some switches in the pedal. The part numbers are on the LD site: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html Guitar players need to change strings sometimes, wind players change reeds, drummers need to replace drum heads and sticks, pianos need new felts, tube amp users replace tubes, DJs replace crossfaders and needles..... and loopers sometimes need to replace a footswitch. After all, they are on the floor with all the dirt and you are tapping/stomping them 1000's of times, it's gonna wear out eventually. >Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write a >letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice. Before I sent the >letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly. I have no doubt Warren would have tried his best to help, but he wouldn't really be the most obvious first choice to ask? kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 10:25:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ED363BECC; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108021714.086e57b0@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:25:09 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <2D83B5D2-46C1-4910-831E-FB50167455C6@gmail.com> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070107105203.01a97b08@tiscali.co.uk> <2D83B5D2-46C1-4910-831E-FB50167455C6@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:25:09 +0000 (UTC) At 04:38 AM 1/7/2007, Per Boysen wrote: In my own experience we had brother sync going fine among three EDP's >when jamming with Matthas Grob and Rick Walker. I noticed then >however that every time I ended a multiply with Record my EDP was >thrown out of the brotherhood. Isn't that what you would expect?? Unrounded-Multiply is the user intentionally changing the loop length to break out of tempo with previous loops. So of course it won't be in sync with the other loopers anymore. The whole point of the function is for you to break out of sync with them! >After doing that action I had to play >the rest of the jam with manual sync (retrigger and adjust loop >length by ear to match the other musicians loops) because it wasn't >possible to get back into the bro-sync again (the establishing bro- sync >happens in reset mode, I think). Yes, if you want to rejoin the tempo of the others, you need to go into reset so you give your Echoplex a chance to find the beat from the others again. It doesn't have to be reset for a whole loop cycle, just long enough for one pulse to come. Then you can tap Record again to begin a new loop. When you end record it will stop in sync and your loop will be matched up to the tempo again. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 10:33:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FAD43BEB9; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108022611.04ab2298@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:33:15 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: <45A1D927.6080607@imt.net> References: <3b2d602cb4c454fa918143598dd3b797@cox.net> <45A1D927.6080607@imt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <2kBb6B.A.A9B.q3hoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:33:14 +0000 (UTC) At 09:39 PM 1/7/2007, Bob Weigel wrote: >Hmm...radio shack.... I wonder how well the interface debounces? I don't >know the technical aspects of these yet as I haven't had to work on >one. But often on interfaces that aren't software debounced of course it has debouncing. Are there any mechanical switches that don't bounce? I never encountered one... Debouncing switches is a pretty basic digital interface requirement. I would be quite surprised to find any device with a switch that wasn't debouncing it somehow. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 11:24:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE75D3BEC1; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A23838.9000309@imt.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 04:25:28 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes References: <3b2d602cb4c454fa918143598dd3b797@cox.net> <45A1D927.6080607@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070108022611.04ab2298@loopers-delight.com> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108022611.04ab2298@loopers-delight.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Some bounce a lot more than others. I totally experienced this with switches from Radio Shack recently on that very machine I was talking about for Todd Green. On part if the rig It was an old hardware debounce that I'd modified from someone elses work to where it worked fine until the switches got just a little glazed or something and then it started glitzing and would like 90% of the time perfectly double bounce so that it was as though the switch just wasn't working.. I don't know the type of debouncing that's used like I say. Haven't worked on those units yet. Just...seen stranger things wind up being true and trying to consider all possibilities. -Bob Kim Flint wrote: > At 09:39 PM 1/7/2007, Bob Weigel wrote: > >> Hmm...radio shack.... I wonder how well the interface debounces? I >> don't know the technical aspects of these yet as I haven't had to >> work on one. But often on interfaces that aren't software debounced > > > of course it has debouncing. Are there any mechanical switches that > don't bounce? I never encountered one... Debouncing switches is a > pretty basic digital interface requirement. I would be quite surprised > to find any device with a switch that wasn't debouncing it somehow. > > kim > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 11:56:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80FD73BECA; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAJbAoUXUSnIvnmdsb2JhbACNPgEBAgcOKg Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070108102545.01bd2e58@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 11:55:00 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Help needed w/echoplex ARRAY In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108015522.05053928@loopers-delight.com> References: <459E23FA.2@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070106233426.05238860@loopers-delight.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070107105203.01a97b08@tiscali.co.uk> <6.1.2.0.2.20070108015522.05053928@loopers-delight.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-536A86 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:56:43 +0000 (UTC) At 10:03 08/01/2007, you wrote: >At 03:33 AM 1/7/2007, a k butler wrote: > >>>We designed the Echoplex to support this sort of use, it should work ok. >> >>It didn't work when I tried it ( at Mathon, with Matthias). >> >>I had my 2 edps Brother synced, >>both Sync=Out > >there's your problem. If you are trying to receive clock, Sync=IN. >(on both units). Why would you set it to Sync=out if you are trying >to receive sync? er.. because I read on LD that you had to use sync=Out to make brother-sync work :-) There were quite a few posts at one time. or was it the Loop3 manual? which says "All Echoplexes using Brothersync should set Sync=Out" and "Sync=In should not be used for BrotherSync" I don't remember, but I think I did try Sync=In and got it to work. (may have removed BrotherCable) This wasn't in a test situation, but while playing with a roomful of noisy loopers. >>I don't remember, as it was a while back and I didn't midi-sync again. >>...but I think I got around it by setting EDPs to Sync=In >>(may have taken out the brother sync) > >no, that's what you are supposed to do. BrotherSync works just fine >with Sync=IN, Out, or OuS. Yep :-) just checked here, and have the stereo pair running with both on Sync=IN Works just as well as with Sync=Out I don't have it hooked up to check how they perform with incoming clock though. Would the Midi-sync override the BrotherSync? ( In which case I'd be unsurprised by a haas effect changing on each sync ) >>Sync=In disables brother sync ( as far as I know) > >nope. We designed it to support all these cases transparently. Right >>>There are other ways to sync as well. For example all the units >>>could be connected with BrotherSync, which allows any of them to >>>set the tempo for the others. This is especially nice for group or >>>band situations. >> >>...but brother-sync is problematic for more than 1 EDP >>...isn't it? > >only if you get up to maybe 12 or more. I forget what the limit is >but nobody ever reached it so far as I know. The sample clock sync >doesn't work so well with multiple units, but usually that only >matters for stereo. which is what Bob is asking for. 8 edps as 4 stereo pairs >The BrotherSync part for jamming with multiple echoplexes should work fine. Jamming with others, when you have a stereo pair, has been a problem though. I hope to get it working if Bernhard Wagner brings his edp over on his next trip here. Starting a stereo pair doesn't produce 2 edps with exactly the same loop-start time, there's a slight delay due to the midi connection. They have exactly the same loop length, but are offset (although the audio itself is accurate) (hence the dramatic haas effect when reversing a stereo pair) I checked this out a while back, and can't re-check now, but I think this means that the Sync pulses from the 2 edps don't coincide. trying to sync the 3rd edp to them can have 2 possible results 1) loop slightly too short, by the amount of offset 2) (rare) very short loop equal to the amount of offset >kim thanks andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 17:30:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66BA73BEC2; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:21:40 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <25NgsC.A.P7G.P_noFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:30:55 +0000 (UTC) At 7:14 PM -0800 1/7/07, Travis Hartnett wrote: >Are you using the EFC-7 or a MIDI controller? If the former, then I >suspect your switches are dirty and/or failing. I am using the 7-button foot controller, so I guess that's the EFC-7. >Does it act wonky from the front control panel? Yes. I tried the front panel buttons, too. Where does one get replacement buttons for the EFC-7? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 17:30:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13B8F3BECF; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:25:00 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:30:58 +0000 (UTC) At 7:33 PM -0800 1/7/07, Travis Hartnett wrote: >If you're using the EFC-7 you can also break out the ohm meter and >test that each button is reliably showing the assigned resistance >value. Those values are on the LD site under Tools of the Trade >somewhere. Thanks. I am not finding that info - any idea where it might be? I'm looking at http://loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 17:31:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0B333BEE2; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <45A1C6FC.8030304@imt.net> References: <45A1C6FC.8030304@imt.net> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:26:31 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:31:00 +0000 (UTC) At 8:22 PM -0800 1/7/07, Bob Weigel wrote: >Sounds like maybe you just have some dirty switches. Deoxit D5 will >often revitalize contacts but I'm not sure what these switches >are..wait I think they're the heavy duty ones and not the pc mount >tactile ones. Anyway still might be that. Pull it apart and make >sure that the switch contacts are clean (.1 ohm or less hopefully) >-Bob I'm not much of a techie. Is Deoxit something I squirt into the switches? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 17:31:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9EB23BEEC; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <160996.68783.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <160996.68783.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:29:43 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:31:03 +0000 (UTC) At 12:11 AM -0800 1/8/07, L.A. Angulo wrote: >don=B4t throw the EDP just the EFC-7 and get the >Behringer fcb1010 plus loopIV and you will be in >heaven! This Loop IV is something other than the "Loop 4"=20 I see on the "startup screen"? The Behringer pedal looks interesting. How much=20 MIDI diddling would I have to do to make it work=20 with the EDP? (I have ZERO experience with MIDI.) -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 17:35:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A1E33BEE9; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108020554.08760190@loopers-delight.com> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108020554.08760190@loopers-delight.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:31:08 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <7F1nfB.A.-UH.xDooFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:35:45 +0000 (UTC) At 2:16 AM -0800 1/8/07, Kim Flint wrote: >As others noted, you probably just need to clean or replace some >switches in the pedal. The part numbers are on the LD site: >http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html > >Guitar players need to change strings sometimes, wind players change >reeds, drummers need to replace drum heads and sticks, pianos need >new felts, tube amp users replace tubes, DJs replace crossfaders and >needles..... and loopers sometimes need to replace a footswitch. >After all, they are on the floor with all the dirt and you are >tapping/stomping them 1000's of times, it's gonna wear out >eventually. True, dat. Thanks for the lin - lots to read and learn on that page. >>Thursday afternoon as I went through all this, I sat down to write >>a letter to Warren Sirota begging for some advice. Before I sent >>the letter, I went back to the EDP and it performed correctly. > >I have no doubt Warren would have tried his best to help, but he >wouldn't really be the most obvious first choice to ask? I thought of Warren because he wrote the manual and because I worked with him many years ago. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 17:39:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1F9C3BEF4; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00a101c7334b$f42074c0$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: Subject: aurisis Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:39:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:397775b7a70d9e9b11c0f2c5ded06394 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:39:26 +0000 (UTC) i bought the loopIV chip via internet on dec 20th and haven't heard of aurisis yet. anybody out there who had good/bad experiences with them? how long do they usually need for sending out stuff? smooth looping everybody, tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 17:50:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 320AA3BEF9; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=s3K+nQBVmoBsxBbmGa70PIqWVgGdm+NNLjkcyZD/kp07XnoqZcX42LMusOGA6nNWgD4aQn2mBBv3hnzXtAP6lNb3uIXiZMTiP+779/Wuu5YGmf1KM9bBk5tf3JhKstkqC3zoNxbAC0lHM/ctJ1sgdqdfY0A8HpRwvY09i+SeKo0= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:50:39 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_80087_29538730.1168278639507" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:50:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_80087_29538730.1168278639507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html#replace Building Custom Footswitches and Pedals Some people like to *build their own pedals* to meet their own unique applications or for custom pedal boards or whatever. This is very easy on the Echoplex. The circuit for a switch connected to the Footpedal jack is very simple. It is just a resistor and a momentary switch connected in series between the tip and sleeve of the jack. Pressing the switch connects the tip and sleeve together through the resistor. The Resistor values determine the function that the Echoplex executes. These switches can be in parallel, although if you press several at once you will get unpredictable results. (It is possible to press other switches while holding down Overdub, however). If you look in the EFC-7 pedal you will see that it is just seven switch-resistor combinations, all in parallel between the tip and sleeve of the panel mount jack. Simple. 1% metal film resistors should be used, here are the appropriate values: *0 ohms* *Record* *14.3K ohms* *Overdub* *7.87K ohms* *Multiply* *4.75K ohms* *Insert* *2.87K ohms* *Mute* *1.58K ohms* *Undo* *681 ohms* *NextLoop* *Parameters* If you want to *make your own* feedback footpedal (or elbow pedal, or whatever), use a 20k ohm or greater pot. Linear taper is probably better, but log works too. The value and taper will change the feel of the pedal, so you may want to experiment a little. The feedback level is controlled by the amount of resistance between the tip and sleeve. Anything over 20k should be maximum feedback, anything down around 0 should be no feedback. Connect the potentiometer's wiper to the tip, and the sleeve to one end of the pot. (Make sure it's the end that lets the pedal operate in the direction you want.) Simple! On 1/8/07, David Gans wrote: > > At 7:33 PM -0800 1/7/07, Travis Hartnett wrote: > >If you're using the EFC-7 you can also break out the ohm meter and > >test that each button is reliably showing the assigned resistance > >value. Those values are on the LD site under Tools of the Trade > >somewhere. > > Thanks. I am not finding that info - any idea where it might be? > > I'm looking at http://loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > ------=_Part_80087_29538730.1168278639507 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

http://loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html#replace


Building Custom Footswitches and Pedals


Some people like to build their own pedals to meet their own unique applications or for custom pedal boards or whatever. This is very easy on the Echoplex.

The circuit for a switch connected to the Footpedal jack is very simple. It is just a resistor and a momentary switch connected in series between the tip and sleeve of the jack. Pressing the switch connects the tip and sleeve together through the resistor. The Resistor values determine the function that the Echoplex executes. These switches can be in parallel, although if you press several at once you will get unpredictable results. (It is possible to press other switches while holding down Overdub, however). If you look in the EFC-7 pedal you will see that it is just seven switch-resistor combinations, all in parallel between the tip and sleeve of the panel mount jack. Simple.

1% metal film resistors should be used, here are the appropriate values:

0 ohms
Record
14.3K ohms
Overdub
7.87K ohms
Multiply
4.75K ohms
Insert
2.87K ohms
Mute
1.58K ohms
Undo
681 ohms
NextLoop

Parameters

If you want to make your own feedback footpedal (or elbow pedal, or whatever), use a 20k ohm or greater pot. Linear taper is probably better, but log works too. The value and taper will change the feel of the pedal, so you may want to experiment a little. The feedback level is controlled by the amount of resistance between the tip and sleeve. Anything over 20k should be maximum feedback, anything down around 0 should be no feedback. Connect the potentiometer's wiper to the tip, and the sleeve to one end of the pot. (Make sure it's the end that lets the pedal operate in the direction you want.) Simple!




On 1/8/07, David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:
At 7:33 PM -0800 1/7/07, Travis Hartnett wrote:
>If you're using the EFC-7 you can also break out the ohm meter and
>test that each button is reliably showing the assigned resistance
>value.  Those values are on the LD site under Tools of the Trade
>somewhere.

Thanks.  I am not finding that info - any idea where it might be?

I'm looking at http://loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html


--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://logblog.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com


------=_Part_80087_29538730.1168278639507-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 17:51:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41EE93BEF7; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oLny/RKIYaHxyj378p+tgiKMKPH+krB5fbiwgeI8+X6u8TIte/1zuVGAzAzRFweDhtgmq1BQRrFWPkGuisGMHpS93eHPr0QQNAnosI85NgWPXGnFw8G0IUfAcpXrhouVSYn9q2ySEavuWYHoQKxxgJzRGW6Hvtjf2FchuHkuazU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:51:48 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_80128_4617145.1168278708738" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:51:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_80128_4617145.1168278708738 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Replacements of the same type can be ordered from Mouser. I think they're about a buck each: Replacing Footswitches Sometimes the footswitches break on the EFC-7. Fortunately they are inexpensive and easy to replace. Here is the ordering information: The footswitch part# is: 10PA005 at http://www.mouser.com or 106112 at http://www.jameco.com the switch is made by a company called Mountain Switch, and their part# is DS412R. They are simple to replace with minimal soldering. On 1/8/07, David Gans wrote: > > At 7:14 PM -0800 1/7/07, Travis Hartnett wrote: > >Are you using the EFC-7 or a MIDI controller? If the former, then I > >suspect your switches are dirty and/or failing. > > I am using the 7-button foot controller, so I guess that's the EFC-7. > > > > >Does it act wonky from the front control panel? > > Yes. I tried the front panel buttons, too. > > > Where does one get replacement buttons for the EFC-7? > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > ------=_Part_80128_4617145.1168278708738 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Replacements of the same type can be ordered from Mouser.  I think they're about a buck each:

Replacing Footswitches

Sometimes the footswitches break on the EFC-7. Fortunately they are inexpensive and easy to replace. Here is the ordering information:

The footswitch part# is:

10PA005 at http://www.mouser.com

or

106112 at http://www.jameco.com

the switch is made by a company called Mountain Switch, and their part# is DS412R.

They are simple to replace with minimal soldering.



On 1/8/07, David Gans <david@trufun.com > wrote:
At 7:14 PM -0800 1/7/07, Travis Hartnett wrote:
>Are you using the EFC-7 or a MIDI controller?  If the former, then I
>suspect your switches are dirty and/or failing.

I am using the 7-button foot controller, so I guess that's the EFC-7.



>Does it act wonky from the front control panel?

Yes.  I tried the front panel buttons, too.


Where does one get replacement buttons for the EFC-7?




--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://logblog.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com


------=_Part_80128_4617145.1168278708738-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 17:52:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E69913BF0B; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aZ5mobvQBhJfRpr+ZmG03sCllYN06164uzMEdL7HBeyitP5edUJCFoWLDK+Tu6h15MqDrBWnjAbhmKpP0IiGef9HOfYeNZ3sAwCjYBVwK3YOGZ8c81MEw2R6VWUXHNVA7VfkJ+j1jBBuvrj24Oq1zf1CeKu5vb8C57TBFmMqagQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:52:55 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_80153_21062738.1168278775201" References: <160996.68783.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:52:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_80153_21062738.1168278775201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The Behringer manual is not the greatest, and neither is their interface, but I can send you a step-by-step guide which will get you up and running i= n about fifteen minutes. On 1/8/07, David Gans wrote: > > At 12:11 AM -0800 1/8/07, L.A. Angulo wrote: > >don=B4t throw the EDP just the EFC-7 and get the > >Behringer fcb1010 plus loopIV and you will be in > >heaven! > > This Loop IV is something other than the "Loop 4" > I see on the "startup screen"? > > The Behringer pedal looks interesting. How much > MIDI diddling would I have to do to make it work > with the EDP? (I have ZERO experience with MIDI.) > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > ------=_Part_80153_21062738.1168278775201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The Behringer manual is not the greatest, and neither is their interface, b= ut I can send you a step-by-step guide which will get you up and running in= about fifteen minutes.



On = 1/8/07,=20 David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:
At 12:11 AM -0800 1/8/07, L.A. Angulo wrote:
>don=B4t throw the EDP j= ust the  EFC-7 and get the
>Behringer fcb1010 plus loopIV a= nd you will be in
>heaven!

This Loop IV is something other tha= n the "Loop 4"
I see on the "startup screen"?

The Behringer pedal loo= ks interesting.  How much
MIDI diddling would I have to do to = make it work
with the EDP?  (I have ZERO experience with MIDI.= )



--

David Gans - david@trufun.com= or david@gdhour.com
Truth a= nd Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog: =   http://logblog.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com


------=_Part_80153_21062738.1168278775201-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 18:24:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 493CD3BEDC; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <160996.68783.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:16:45 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:24:08 +0000 (UTC) At 9:52 AM -0800 1/8/07, Travis Hartnett wrote: >The Behringer manual is not the greatest, and neither is their >interface, but I can send you a step-by-step guide which will get >you up and running in about fifteen minutes. That would be much appreciated. What sort of cable do I need to connect it to the EDP? (I really appreciate all the help I'm getting here. I am pretty seriously non-techie, and haven't swung a soldering iron much since I was a kid. And I have done zero MIDI work. Guess it's time for me to get into it.) -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 18:27:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA0383BEF5; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iVIyoOWwoCqsWiXaDYA6CTnwwzBvb0dfDcpW5S+sd+Ct5xPhSgDInVyaP/P2XrFghVWdpzXywggOrkNgQZWlRoLsNYH0JXFI/uY1nwn+Lf1TkhkXan0iy0Aim7uHxeReQGwBu07ek9JvGSE2MxMld+tX8GvXfxXhUXeoA6A7ytY= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:27:00 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_81029_8821290.1168280820716" References: <160996.68783.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:27:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_81029_8821290.1168280820716 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just a standard MIDI cable. I'll forward the instructions tonight when I'm at my home computer. On 1/8/07, David Gans wrote: > > > > That would be much appreciated. What sort of cable do I need to > connect it to the EDP? > > > ------=_Part_81029_8821290.1168280820716 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just a standard MIDI cable.
I'll forward the instructions tonight when I'm at my home computer.

On 1/8/07, David Gans < david@trufun.com> wrote:


That would be much appreciated.  What sort of cable do I need to
connect it to the EDP?



------=_Part_81029_8821290.1168280820716-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 18:37:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37A033BEF8; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:37:36 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: EDP For Sale ($600)!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:37:38 +0000 (UTC) At 6:38 PM -0500 1/7/07, Mark Trewella wrote: >No one is interested? I guess I could do $600 even, that would >include shipping. I have never set up a "sellers acount" on ebay and >dont really feel like doing it. $600 is a good deal, I am sure one >of you wants it. Well, FWIW, I've seen EDP prices going way down on ebay lately, at least before the first of the year. In fact, I saw a stereo pair of EDP's go for only ~$700 a couple months ago. Granted, they were only Loop III, but otherwise they were standard Gibson white-faces which were maxxed. That's two units for only a c-note more than you're asking. I'm merely saying that you might get a hit or two if you dropped the price. (I'm not interested at all, BTW, so I'm not trying to drive you down for my own purposes.) --m. -- _______ "No more building up; it is time to dissolve..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 18:50:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 329173BEDA; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <160996.68783.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:44:51 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:50:51 +0000 (UTC) At 10:27 AM -0800 1/8/07, Travis Hartnett wrote: >Just a standard MIDI cable. >I'll forward the instructions tonight when I'm at my home computer. Thank you kindly! I have an old ADA MC-1 MIDI controller with 11 buttons. Would that be adaptable to use with the EDP? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 18:53:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 632C73BEE2; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=U0adCW4XCQ8LXxspnWHfzO+qTyPFDIb8BIRdBFbrdqK6qruhJjJS/xMMY/Cf63BAX2y6CEKjSQ42iyAaGU0sKOBUfoSLMagNQ9oOXhBnLArJOqWkoRA6gj+x7DIoIq8yrdINYF+aozoWAGtMY3nSRJDK+J/Ua5P8rT7EWjFLdSs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:53:28 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_81523_25569094.1168282408845" References: <160996.68783.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:53:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_81523_25569094.1168282408845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline No--that only sends MIDI program changes (and maybe CC with a pedal). You need something that'll send MIDI notes. On 1/8/07, David Gans wrote: > > At 10:27 AM -0800 1/8/07, Travis Hartnett wrote: > >Just a standard MIDI cable. > >I'll forward the instructions tonight when I'm at my home computer. > > Thank you kindly! > > I have an old ADA MC-1 MIDI controller with 11 buttons. Would that > be adaptable to use with the EDP? > > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > ------=_Part_81523_25569094.1168282408845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline No--that only sends MIDI program changes (and maybe CC with a pedal).  You need something that'll send MIDI notes.

On 1/8/07, David Gans < david@trufun.com> wrote:
At 10:27 AM -0800 1/8/07, Travis Hartnett wrote:
>Just a standard MIDI cable.
>I'll forward the instructions tonight when I'm at my home computer.

Thank you kindly!

I have an old ADA MC-1 MIDI controller with 11 buttons.  Would that
be adaptable to use with the EDP?





--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://logblog.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com


------=_Part_81523_25569094.1168282408845-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 18:58:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4F903BEFC; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108105528.087cc150@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:58:47 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: aurisis In-Reply-To: <00a101c7334b$f42074c0$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> References: <00a101c7334b$f42074c0$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:58:46 +0000 (UTC) At 09:39 AM 1/8/2007, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: >i bought the loopIV chip via internet on dec 20th and haven't heard of >aurisis >yet. anybody out there who had good/bad experiences with them? >how long do they usually need for sending out stuff? > >smooth looping everybody, tilmann We have the delivery time listed on the ordering page of our website. For international deliveries it is usually 3-4 weeks. thanks, kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 19:20:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41D4C3BEF9; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0ba901c7335a$1c556460$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Fw: insurance companies you recommended for musicians Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:20:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0BA6_01C7331F.6EFAA030" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <75YW5.A.nZD.WmpoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:20:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0BA6_01C7331F.6EFAA030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone have any experiences or opinions on which of these musical = instrument/gear insurance providers are better than the other? http://www.clarionins.com/ http://www.musicproinsurance.com/ Thanks, Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0BA6_01C7331F.6EFAA030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone have any experiences or opinions = on which of=20 these musical instrument/gear insurance providers are better than the=20 other?
 

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Thanks,
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0BA6_01C7331F.6EFAA030-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 19:35:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05A6D3BEE0; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <160996.68783.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:31:12 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:35:41 +0000 (UTC) At 10:53 AM -0800 1/8/07, Travis Hartnett wrote: >No--that only sends MIDI program changes (and maybe CC with a >pedal). You need something that'll send MIDI notes. Thanks. Anyone interested in buying an old ADA MC-1 MIDI controller with 11 buttons? :^) -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 19:47:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DEE53BEDA; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A2ADC4.40408@imt.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 12:47:00 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes References: <45A1C6FC.8030304@imt.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Yeah it's the preferred by most techs last I knew for non-moving contacts. Cailube is their product for sliders and I use a GC product for rotating pots that has worked great over the years called JIffy bath. -Bob David Gans wrote: > At 8:22 PM -0800 1/7/07, Bob Weigel wrote: > >> Sounds like maybe you just have some dirty switches. Deoxit D5 will >> often revitalize contacts but I'm not sure what these switches >> are..wait I think they're the heavy duty ones and not the pc mount >> tactile ones. Anyway still might be that. Pull it apart and make >> sure that the switch contacts are clean (.1 ohm or less hopefully) -Bob > > > I'm not much of a techie. Is Deoxit something I squirt into the > switches? > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 20:15:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20C2F3BEDC; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A2A674.7060308@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:15:48 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! References: <715575.85570.qm@web81314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45876827.9010706@frey.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <45876827.9010706@frey.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Damian Stewart wrote: > yeah, sorry. i'm touchy cos it's Christmas. BUY MORE USELESS SH*T! &c. The only christmas present I could afford was a tibetan bowl for 7 Euros. This useless shit sounds great and switches my spirit into another state, don't know why and how. I should call her Lucille, or if its a male instrument (she would tell me wouldn't she?) I'd call it Damian, for sure it'll protect my life... Though all my bowls gained a lot of value moneywise, I'd rather starve than sell them... (neither know why nor how... ;-) Happy new gear Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 20:20:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 170603BEEC; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <0ba901c7335a$1c556460$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <0ba901c7335a$1c556460$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-1001826039 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: insurance companies you recommended for musicians Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:19:46 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:20:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-1001826039 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Haven't had any claims with Music Pro but so far so good. They were=20 the cheapest I've found. It's around 1% of the value per year. They=20 will only pay replacement cost regardless of how much you've insured=20 the instrument for so if you insure your 2007 Japanese Strat for=20 $10,000 you won't get ten large back! Let me know what you learn about=20= Clarion. I do know homeowner's insurance can get kinky if you make a claim on=20 something that's very valuable... and sometimes pro stuff isn't covered=20= at all unless you've clarified that with your agent - and maybe in=20 writing. Keep me posted richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 11:20 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Anyone have any experiences or opinions on which of these musical=20 > instrument/gear insurance providers are better than the other? > =A0 > http://www.clarionins.com/ > > http://www.musicproinsurance.com/ > Thanks, > =A0 > Kris > =A0 > --Apple-Mail-1-1001826039 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Haven't had any claims with Music Pro but so far so good. They were the cheapest I've found. It's around 1% of the value per year. They will only pay replacement cost regardless of how much you've insured the instrument for so if you insure your 2007 Japanese Strat for $10,000 you won't get ten large back! Let me know what you learn about Clarion. =20 I do know homeowner's insurance can get kinky if you make a claim on something that's very valuable... and sometimes pro stuff isn't covered at all unless you've clarified that with your agent - and maybe in writing.=20 Keep me posted Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 11:20 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: ArialAnyone have any experiences or opinions on which of these musical instrument/gear insurance providers are better than the other? =A0 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.clarionins.com/ = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.musicproinsurance.com/ ArialThanks, =A0 ArialKris =A0 = --Apple-Mail-1-1001826039-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 20:27:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCB813BEEA; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <0ba901c7335a$1c556460$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-1002281439 Message-Id: <11BF0E13-C3BC-4F01-B671-51E181DAFC19@fuse.net> From: monk Subject: Re: insurance companies you recommended for musicians Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:27:22 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:27:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-1002281439 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed right, but if you insure your 1963 strat for $15,000, will they pay? that's the real question. i haven't found anyone so far who charges less than 10% per annum who will cover expensive instruments. i'd love to find out that you're right, however. On Jan 8, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > Haven't had any claims with Music Pro but so far so good. They > were the cheapest I've found. It's around 1% of the value per > year. They will only pay replacement cost regardless of how much > you've insured the instrument for so if you insure your 2007 > Japanese Strat for $10,000 you won't get ten large back! Let me > know what you learn about Clarion. --Apple-Mail-7-1002281439 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 right, but if you insure your = 1963 strat for $15,000, will they pay? that's the real question. i = haven't found anyone so far who charges less than 10% per annum who will = cover expensive instruments. i'd love to find out that you're right, = however.



On Jan 8, = 2007, at 3:19 PM, Richard Sales wrote:

Haven't had any claims with = Music Pro but so far so good.=A0 = They were the cheapest I've found.=A0 It's around 1% of the value = per year.=A0 They will only = pay replacement cost regardless of how much you've insured the = instrument for so if you insure your 2007 Japanese Strat for $10,000 you = won't get ten large back!=A0 = Let me know what you learn about Clarion. =A0

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= --Apple-Mail-7-1002281439-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 20:31:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC0B03BED0; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <45A2A674.7060308@addcom.de> References: <715575.85570.qm@web81314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45876827.9010706@frey.co.nz> <45A2A674.7060308@addcom.de> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1002520825 Message-Id: <7223b87dab9bd12e784e651456643bec@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:31:21 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:31:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1002520825 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hey! If it 'takes you there' who cares what it costs? I got my greatest lift this Christmas from something I gave away and it didn't cost me a penny! Well... in a way. Have you ever heard Karma Moffitt from San Francisco and the cool things he does with Tibetan bowls? It's well worth a listen. Haven't heard any in a while but he does this thing where he puts his mouth down by the rim of the bowl and makes vowel shapes with his mouth that gives it a really cool wah wah or something sound. Sort of like that thing Peter Frampton used to use - a talk box - but with Tibetan bowls! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 12:15 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Damian Stewart wrote: >> yeah, sorry. i'm touchy cos it's Christmas. BUY MORE USELESS SH*T! &c. > > The only christmas present I could afford was a tibetan bowl for 7 > Euros. This useless shit sounds great and switches my spirit into > another state, don't know why and how. I should call her Lucille, or > if its a male instrument (she would tell me wouldn't she?) I'd call it > Damian, for sure it'll protect my life... > > Though all my bowls gained a lot of value moneywise, I'd rather starve > than sell them... (neither know why nor how... ;-) > > Happy new gear > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > --Apple-Mail-2-1002520825 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Hey! If it 'takes you there' who cares what it costs? I got my greatest lift this Christmas from something I gave away and it didn't cost me a penny! Well... in a way. Have you ever heard Karma Moffitt from San Francisco and the cool things he does with Tibetan bowls? It's well worth a listen. Haven't heard any in a while but he does this thing where he puts his mouth down by the rim of the bowl and makes vowel shapes with his mouth that gives it a really cool wah wah or something sound. Sort of like that thing Peter Frampton used to use - a talk box - but with Tibetan bowls! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 12:15 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: Damian Stewart wrote: yeah, sorry. i'm touchy cos it's Christmas. BUY MORE USELESS SH*T! &c. The only christmas present I could afford was a tibetan bowl for 7 Euros. This useless shit sounds great and switches my spirit into another state, don't know why and how. I should call her Lucille, or if its a male instrument (she would tell me wouldn't she?) I'd call it Damian, for sure it'll protect my life... Though all my bowls gained a lot of value moneywise, I'd rather starve than sell them... (neither know why nor how... ;-) Happy new gear Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com --Apple-Mail-2-1002520825-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 20:33:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E7C13BEE7; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <11BF0E13-C3BC-4F01-B671-51E181DAFC19@fuse.net> References: <0ba901c7335a$1c556460$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <11BF0E13-C3BC-4F01-B671-51E181DAFC19@fuse.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-1002640510 Message-Id: <4f53917289aefa5cd9a92368898f83ee@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: insurance companies you recommended for musicians Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:33:21 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:33:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-1002640510 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed They SAY that they will get you another 63 strat in the same condition. Let me know what you learn. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 12:27 PM, monk wrote: > right, but if you insure your 1963 strat for $15,000, will they pay? > that's the real question. i haven't found anyone so far who charges > less than 10% per annum who will cover expensive instruments. i'd love > to find out that you're right, however. > > > > On Jan 8, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > >> Haven't had any claims with Music Pro but so far so good. They were >> the cheapest I've found. It's around 1% of the value per year. They >> will only pay replacement cost regardless of how much you've insured >> the instrument for so if you insure your 2007 Japanese Strat for >> $10,000 you won't get ten large back! Let me know what you learn >> about Clarion. --Apple-Mail-3-1002640510 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII They SAY that they will get you another 63 strat in the same condition. Let me know what you learn. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 12:27 PM, monk wrote: right, but if you insure your 1963 strat for $15,000, will they pay? that's the real question. i haven't found anyone so far who charges less than 10% per annum who will cover expensive instruments. i'd love to find out that you're right, however. On Jan 8, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Richard Sales wrote: Haven't had any claims with Music Pro but so far so good. They were the cheapest I've found. It's around 1% of the value per year. They will only pay replacement cost regardless of how much you've insured the instrument for so if you insure your 2007 Japanese Strat for $10,000 you won't get ten large back! Let me know what you learn about Clarion. --Apple-Mail-3-1002640510-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 21:11:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29BD33BED8; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.137] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070108203329.943F83BEEA@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: insurance Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:11:12 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jan 2007 21:11:13.0687 (UTC) FILETIME=[873D4270:01C73369] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:11:17 +0000 (UTC) You can get instrument insurance through the musicians union. It might be possible to insure vintage instruments as antiques, or heirlooms rather than musical instruments. Instruments a re less likely to stay home than antiques,and therefor higher theft risk. _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 21:15:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 948433BED9; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=heshgf++valW1pZ9TtY3PBOabFkcWEam6DDEEq1nFh7Gk4IFiuek2bxP/eHI6e3tPkn7720kH650cDyE9lrAT04Tes+F5Oc4k01MokVELLmArjHErpStZv7/OrGB7M3iJ13j8ESvEz3C0xHQWcKWU9upTcJFXbScpGrFgmkm3T4= Message-ID: <26ba8d120701081315o11ae0aafp91df2e21f0fcd879@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:15:37 -0500 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cds In-Reply-To: <459C3AF8.7040308@hevanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070103164411.000BF3BEEA@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070103204327.01bd3e28@tiscali.co.uk> <459C3AF8.7040308@hevanet.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 45ad41049b26bfbe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:15:39 +0000 (UTC) I keep everything on hard drives -- I have my main machine and two backups, one offsite. I rotate the backups periodically -- and disks fall off the bottom as they get old/small -- I started backing up onto 80's, now it's 250's. Interesting, since I started this I have had no data loss of any kind. :-D rather like carrying an umbrella around. On 1/3/07, David Auker wrote: > > CD/Tape...here's a tidbit about National Public Radio's Fresh Air: > > > Most of Gross's interviews are taped and edited down, and as is the > > case in many radio programs, guests are often not in the studio. While > > nearly all other radio programming now use digital recording, Fresh > > Air is still recorded, edited and played on analog reel-to-reel tape. > > However, the program's website announced in 2006 that the aging tapes > > were now deteriorating and that they would soon begin transferring the > > thousands of interviews "to a digital format and indexing them." The > > show usually uses fiber-optic lines to conduct its interviews leading > > to a superior sound quality. > from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_Air > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gross > > Wow, Terry Gross has been there 30 years! > > =David > > a k butler wrote: > > > >> I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met at Lou > >> Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media for archival > >> storage. > > > > Smithsonian Folkways are transferring their tapes to digital. > > > > All media have limited life, but the advantage with digital is that > > with care you can > > re-copy every so often without loss. > > > > The advantage of tape is that even without care you still get some > > kind of audio, whereas when digital media degrades you tend to lose > > everything. > > > > andy butler > > > > > > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 21:18:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9520C3BED3; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070108211849.86808.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=AriDy7lNqyOqene6HhlXC4mNIxlHgkC9i6+iYR6sTuSuUAdBHvSkEQqntTr9gg71x3JEC0gFF2tnt+KykFYTTMf10E5UfkX3nVddHhqNBqE5JOpjn2h0bbaJDdEVyaPP7v37ddDX7gb5kNK7AfidIoKpXh6eJBkEiqAnByJfwXk=; X-YMail-OSG: mm2UFd8VM1n5xBRLC.fkGylcs2Oh82MZTV5uFQaZCYJLfc1murzsyFBlHsQ5L_cPvjvdKTEoPf5HsAiupVbnI7WU3RcljBc6KDVF_snqjaDoQHIcruO4tSgxor5H_YRtqxH7k_5SqdQ2U.o- Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:18:49 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45A2A674.7060308@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Not that it translates, but most art theory would say that a bowl or representation of, would be considered female. Where as something that might pour into a bowl would be considered male. This is all useless information but I found it fun to type. Tibetan bowls sure are great though. That is all. Mark --- Stefan Tiedje wrote: > The only christmas present I could afford was a > tibetan bowl for 7 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 21:20:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4177E3BEDA; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: monk Subject: Re: insurance Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:20:33 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:20:42 +0000 (UTC) it's been years since i checked out all the numbers, but when i checked with the union and the the whole ASCAP/SESAC/BMI they all used third part carriers who essentially give you the same deal that they'd give you if you called them cold. most of them asked for 10-15% of the insured value per year for instruments that are of any considerable value. i own a recording studio and also tour. so i have a fair amount of value tied up in gear... i simply can't afford to spend $20,000 per year for insurance. On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:11 PM, samba - wrote: > > You can get instrument insurance through the musicians union. It > might be possible to insure vintage instruments as antiques, or > heirlooms rather than musical instruments. Instruments a re less > likely to stay home than antiques,and therefor higher theft risk. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office > Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 8 21:59:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD0803BECC; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-1007770696 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: insurance Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:58:51 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:59:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-1007770696 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 8-Jan-07, at 1:20 PM, monk wrote: > i own a recording studio and also tour. so i have a fair amount of > value tied up in gear... i simply can't afford to spend $20,000 per > year for insurance. I have a studio and tour too. Check out musicproinsurance.com. Here in Canada it's AWFUL trying to find insurance cheap. Canadian homeowners flat won't cover pro equipment and they make no bones about it. When you ask they just get confused and chew their nails. I think musicpro is pretty reputable. I found them through ASCAP. Again, haven't had to make any claims yet, and hope I never do... but SOMETHING is better than NOTHING! You may need a US address to get musicproinsurance. I have one so it worked fine for me. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > > > > > On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:11 PM, samba - wrote: > >> >> You can get instrument insurance through the musicians union. It >> might be possible to insure vintage instruments as antiques, or >> heirlooms rather than musical instruments. Instruments a re less >> likely to stay home than antiques,and therefor higher theft risk. >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office >> Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ >> > --Apple-Mail-5-1007770696 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII On 8-Jan-07, at 1:20 PM, monk wrote: i own a recording studio and also tour. so i have a fair amount of value tied up in gear... i simply can't afford to spend $20,000 per year for insurance. I have a studio and tour too. Check out musicproinsurance.com. Here in Canada it's AWFUL trying to find insurance cheap. Canadian homeowners flat won't cover pro equipment and they make no bones about it. When you ask they just get confused and chew their nails. I think musicpro is pretty reputable. I found them through ASCAP. Again, haven't had to make any claims yet, and hope I never do... but SOMETHING is better than NOTHING! You may need a US address to get musicproinsurance. I have one so it worked fine for me. Gadgetrichard sales 7372,7F7E,C5C4glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C2,9695,1C1B www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:11 PM, samba - wrote: You can get instrument insurance through the musicians union. It might be possible to insure vintage instruments as antiques, or heirlooms rather than musical instruments. 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------=_NextPart_000_278A_01C7333F.B11BBDD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 00:13:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 284EA3BEE6; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=redwEfv26YZU4SsRmwNbUUsNThZcfs+D67FKBBL9uu0t6ZxeFX5bZoiraTXyuPpwa02V2xLMvoaE1byGAn+aYx9q1GhD8eRg/Vi1zFZHq+3GySGK4VqzBhiHZOevz146NoCL0zuuiO5N51HvlHrR4DJ+dDKBfcgU5MbVbkVntt4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:13:09 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE In-Reply-To: <269f01c73382$aec09450$70cb010a@mail2world.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_88213_30842024.1168301589543" References: <269f01c73382$aec09450$70cb010a@mail2world.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:13:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_88213_30842024.1168301589543 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Oh, so close--you have to say it *six* times... On 1/8/07, Ior Bock wrote: > > UNSUBSCRIBE > > > How to become a Teacher > Want to become a teacher? Earn your Teaching degree 100% online! > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com > Unlimited Email Storage =96 POP3 =96 Calendar =96 SMS =96 Translator =96 = Much More! > ------=_Part_88213_30842024.1168301589543 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Oh, so close--you have to say it *six* times...

On 1/8/07, Ior Bock <lab_monkey@mail2world.com> = wrote:
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------=_Part_88213_30842024.1168301589543-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 00:42:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6CC03BED5; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <269f01c73382$aec09450$70cb010a@mail2world.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:42:06 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Ooooh, sounds like somebody's requesting a=20 UUEncoded copy of MS Office in their Inbox.... >On 1/8/07, Ior Bock=20 ><lab_monkey@mail2world.com>=20 >wrote: > >UNSUBSCRIBE > > >=20 >How to become a Teacher >Want to become a teacher? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 00:59:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE9CF3BEDE; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <269f01c73382$aec09450$70cb010a@mail2world.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-1018572270 Message-Id: <931b3103cc991fb2e2567c65ea46e9fb@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:58:53 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:59:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-1018572270 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed system overload! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 4:42 PM, mech wrote: > Ooooh, sounds like somebody's requesting a UUEncoded copy of MS Office = =20 > in their Inbox.... > >> On 1/8/07, Ior Bock =20 >> <lab_monkey@mail2world.com> wrote: >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE >> >> >> > MhtXpK2IBYuFZn0rOkEi7FlpsIWj6j8WMSvgY/> How to become a Teacher >> Want to become a teacher? Earn your Teaching degree 100% online! >> >> _______________________________________________________________ >> Get the Free email that has everyone talking at =20 >> http://www.mail2world.com >> Unlimited Email Storage =96 POP3 =96 Calendar =96 SMS =96 Translator = =96 Much =20 >> More! > --Apple-Mail-6-1018572270 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 system overload! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 4:42 PM, mech wrote: Ooooh, sounds like somebody's requesting a UUEncoded copy of MS Office in their Inbox.... On 1/8/07, Ior Bock <<<lab_monkey@mail2world.com> wrote: UNSUBSCRIBE = < How to become a Teacher Want to become a teacher? Earn your Teaching degree 100% online! _______________________________________________________________ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at < http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage =96 POP3 =96 Calendar =96 SMS =96 Translator =96 = Much More! = --Apple-Mail-6-1018572270-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 01:13:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F60E3BEDA; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ea01c7338b$6a826670$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <715575.85570.qm@web81314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45876827.9010706@frey.co.nz> <45A2A674.7060308@addcom.de> <7223b87dab9bd12e784e651456643bec@glasswing.com> Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:13:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C7338B.698345F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:13:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C7338B.698345F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like the scale of coolness usually associated with Tuban throat = singing. Are there any recordings of it online? Thx. Stephen Goodman * * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sales=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, 8 January, 2007 20:31 PM Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! Hey! If it 'takes you there' who cares what it costs? I got my = greatest lift this Christmas from something I gave away and it didn't = cost me a penny! Well... in a way. Have you ever heard Karma Moffitt from San Francisco and the cool = things he does with Tibetan bowls? It's well worth a listen. Haven't = heard any in a while but he does this thing where he puts his mouth down = by the rim of the bowl and makes vowel shapes with his mouth that gives = it a really cool wah wah or something sound. Sort of like that thing = Peter Frampton used to use - a talk box - but with Tibetan bowls! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 12:15 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: Damian Stewart wrote: yeah, sorry. i'm touchy cos it's Christmas. BUY MORE USELESS SH*T! = &c. The only christmas present I could afford was a tibetan bowl for 7 = Euros. This useless shit sounds great and switches my spirit into = another state, don't know why and how. I should call her Lucille, or if = its a male instrument (she would tell me wouldn't she?) I'd call it = Damian, for sure it'll protect my life... Though all my bowls gained a lot of value moneywise, I'd rather = starve than sell them... (neither know why nor how... ;-) Happy new gear Stefan --=20 Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C7338B.698345F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds like the scale of coolness usually associated = with=20 Tuban throat singing.   Are there any recordings of it = online? =20 Thx.
Stephen Goodman
*
* Cartoons about DVDs and = Stuff
*=20 http://www.earthlight.net/= HiddenTrack
*=20 The Loop Of The Week since 1996!
* http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard=20 Sales
Correct me if I am wrong
but is the reverse and octave function on the 2880's
when depressed, apply to all 4 tracks?

Is there a way to have 4 tracks, but only put track 2 in reverse or change the octave??

Thanks in advance...

--
kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, 8 January, 2007 = 20:31=20 PM
Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism = CURSE UPON=20 Damian Stewart!

Hey! If it 'takes you there' who cares what it = costs? I=20 got my greatest lift this Christmas from something I gave away and it = didn't=20 cost me a penny! Well... in a way.

Have you ever heard Karma = Moffitt=20 from San Francisco and the cool things he does with Tibetan bowls? = It's well=20 worth a listen. Haven't heard any in a while but he does this thing = where he=20 puts his mouth down by the rim of the bowl and makes vowel shapes with = his=20 mouth that gives it a really cool wah wah or something sound. Sort of = like=20 that thing Peter Frampton used to use - a talk box - but with Tibetan=20 bowls!

richard = sales
glassWing farm and=20 studio
vancouver island, = b.c.
800.545.6846
250.752.4816
www.glassWing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayle= ysales.com
www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
On=20 8-Jan-07, at 12:15 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

Damian Stewart wrote:
yeah, sorry. i'm touchy cos it's Christmas. BUY MORE = USELESS=20 SH*T! &c.

The only christmas present I = could afford=20 was a tibetan bowl for 7 Euros. This useless shit sounds great and = switches=20 my spirit into another state, don't know why and how. I should call = her=20 Lucille, or if its a male instrument (she would tell me wouldn't = she?) I'd=20 call it Damian, for sure it'll protect my life...

Though all = my bowls=20 gained a lot of value moneywise, I'd rather starve than sell them... = (neither know why nor how... ;-)

Happy new=20 gear

Stefan

--
Stefan=20 = Tiedje------------x-------
--_____-----------|--------------
--(_|_= =20 ----|\-----|-----()-------
--=20 = _|_)----|-----()--------------
----------()--------www.ccmix.com
------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C7338B.698345F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 01:27:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAB703BEE6; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:27:25 -0500 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE To: Ior Bock , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <007201c7338d$5a462420$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3yo06GVSZq18hKRFEDQycQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <278901c73382$bf3efdd0$70cb010a@mail2world.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5P_64C.A.14B.b-uoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:27:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_3yo06GVSZq18hKRFEDQycQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT To subscribe/unsubscribe to the real Loopers-Delight list, send email with "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") in both the subject and the body, with no signature files, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Please don't send multiple e-mails with your caps shouting all over the place, or some testy looper will make rude comments and call you names. --Boundary_(ID_3yo06GVSZq18hKRFEDQycQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
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--Boundary_(ID_3yo06GVSZq18hKRFEDQycQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 01:30:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC14D3BED2; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <00ea01c7338b$6a826670$0207a8c0@eluk1> References: <715575.85570.qm@web81314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45876827.9010706@frey.co.nz> <45A2A674.7060308@addcom.de> <7223b87dab9bd12e784e651456643bec@glasswing.com> <00ea01c7338b$6a826670$0207a8c0@eluk1> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-1020447232 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:30:08 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:30:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12-1020447232 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well... it's not quite as challenging as tuvan singing. But it sounds=20= really cool. Amazing there's nothing online about him. Saw him=20 recently at a show in the bay area and he's still charging forward. =20 Maybe a Luddite? I'll do some checking around. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 5:13 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Sounds like the scale of coolness usually associated with Tuban throat=20= > singing.=A0=A0 Are there any recordings of it online?=A0 Thx. > Stephen Goodman > * > * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff > * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack > * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! > * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Richard Sales >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Monday, 8 January, 2007 20:31 PM >> Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! >> >> Hey! If it 'takes you there' who cares what it costs? I got my=20 >> greatest lift this Christmas from something I gave away and it didn't=20= >> cost me a penny! Well... in a way. >> >> Have you ever heard Karma Moffitt from San Francisco and the cool=20 >> things he does with Tibetan bowls? It's well worth a listen. Haven't=20= >> heard any in a while but he does this thing where he puts his mouth=20= >> down by the rim of the bowl and makes vowel shapes with his mouth=20 >> that gives it a really cool wah wah or something sound. Sort of like=20= >> that thing Peter Frampton used to use - a talk box - but with Tibetan=20= >> bowls! >> >> richard sales >> glassWing farm and studio >> vancouver island, b.c. >> 800.545.6846 >> 250.752.4816 >> www.glassWing.com >> www.richardsales.com >> www.hayleysales.com >> www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com >> On 8-Jan-07, at 12:15 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: >> >>> Damian Stewart wrote: >>>> yeah, sorry. i'm touchy cos it's Christmas. BUY MORE USELESS SH*T!=20= >>>> &c. >>> >>> The only christmas present I could afford was a tibetan bowl for 7=20= >>> Euros. This useless shit sounds great and switches my spirit into=20 >>> another state, don't know why and how. I should call her Lucille, or=20= >>> if its a male instrument (she would tell me wouldn't she?) I'd call=20= >>> it Damian, for sure it'll protect my life... >>> >>> Though all my bowls gained a lot of value moneywise, I'd rather=20 >>> starve than sell them... (neither know why nor how... ;-) >>> >>> Happy new gear >>> >>> Stefan >>> >>> -- >>> Stefan Tiedje------------x------- >>> --_____-----------|-------------- >>> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- >>> -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- >>> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com >>> --Apple-Mail-12-1020447232 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well... it's not quite as challenging as tuvan singing. But it sounds really cool. Amazing there's nothing online about him. Saw him recently at a show in the bay area and he's still charging forward.=20 Maybe a Luddite? I'll do some checking around.=20 Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 5:13 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: Sounds like the scale of coolness usually associated with Tuban throat singing.=A0=A0 Are there any recordings of it online?=A0= Thx. Stephen Goodman * * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack<= /color> * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.earthlight.net/Studios Arial----- Original Message ----- = ArialFrom:Arial 0000,0000,EEEERichard Sales = ArialTo:Arial = 0000,0000,EEEELoopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com = = ArialSent:Arial Monday, 8 January, 2007 20:31 PM = ArialSubject:Arial Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian = Stewart! Hey! If it 'takes you there' who cares what it costs? I got my greatest lift this Christmas from something I gave away and it didn't cost me a penny! Well... in a way. Have you ever heard Karma Moffitt from San Francisco and the cool things he does with Tibetan bowls? It's well worth a listen. Haven't heard any in a while but he does this thing where he puts his mouth down by the rim of the bowl and makes vowel shapes with his mouth that gives it a really cool wah wah or something sound. Sort of like that thing Peter Frampton used to use - a talk box - but with Tibetan bowls! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 12:15 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: Damian Stewart wrote: yeah, sorry. i'm touchy cos it's Christmas. BUY MORE USELESS SH*T! &c. The only christmas present I could afford was a tibetan bowl for 7 Euros. This useless shit sounds great and switches my spirit into another state, don't know why and how. I should call her Lucille, or if its a male instrument (she would tell me wouldn't she?) I'd call it Damian, for sure it'll protect my life... Though all my bowls gained a lot of value moneywise, I'd rather starve than sell them... (neither know why nor how... ;-) Happy new gear Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com = --Apple-Mail-12-1020447232-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 01:32:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BFA23BED9; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:31:33 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Ior Bock Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE In-Reply-To: <26dc01c73382$b2816ce0$70cb010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: References: <26dc01c73382$b2816ce0$70cb010a@mail2world.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:32:34 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Ior Bock wrote: > UNSUBSCRIBE Again, since you didn't seem to follow the instructions I sent yesterday, here: "To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your unsubscribe request to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make fun of you and you will feel like a dork." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 01:34:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A7443BED8; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20070108191414.009d1910@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: nickd@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:40:45 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Nick Douglas Subject: Re: insurance In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <6fXri.A.xZC.pEvoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Ask your insurance agent about special "riders" to cover gear not covered by your normal homeowners, renters, or business insurance. If your vintage instruments are considered "collectible" you might want to get a quote from collectinsure.com though they might not insure insure gigging, working tools. Let us know where you find the best deal. You're not alone in that under-insured boat. FWIW, Fripp once said the reason he didn't tour with his vintage axe was that the insurance expense made it cheaper to buy new, custom-made guitars for touring so long as he promised to leave the vintage ones safe at home. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 01:41:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC0763BEE7; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:41:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: insurance From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:41:50 +0000 (UTC) I tour a lot, and have my stuff insured through Musicpro. No claims, yet, thankfully, but I've heard good stuff about them, and I feel at least somewha secure. > > On 8-Jan-07, at 1:20 PM, monk wrote: > >> i own a recording studio and also tour. so i have a fair amount of >> value tied up in gear... i simply can't afford to spend $20,000 per >> year for insurance. > > I have a studio and tour too. Check out musicproinsurance.com. Here > in Canada it's AWFUL trying to find insurance cheap. Canadian > homeowners flat won't cover pro equipment and they make no bones about > it. When you ask they just get confused and chew their nails. I think > musicpro is pretty reputable. I found them through ASCAP. Again, > haven't had to make any claims yet, and hope I never do... but > SOMETHING is better than NOTHING! > > You may need a US address to get musicproinsurance. I have one so it > worked fine for me. > > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:11 PM, samba - wrote: >> >>> >>> You can get instrument insurance through the musicians union. It >>> might be possible to insure vintage instruments as antiques, or >>> heirlooms rather than musical instruments. Instruments a re less >>> likely to stay home than antiques,and therefor higher theft risk. >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office >>> Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 03:03:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14B953BEC1; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 03:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-1026063162 Message-Id: Cc: Miles Ward From: Richard Sales Subject: question for a friend Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:03:44 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <8VjVkC.A.UZF.eYwoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 03:03:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-1026063162 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Here's one I'm sure you could answer but I was totally stumped because I use TDM plug ins and never tried to use em live: Just trying to use a VST plugin to affect the sound on a line in, and actually hear post effect in the monitor.. So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about 'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by the way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous person. Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit. Thanks times MC squared richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 5:41 PM, improv@peak.org wrote: > I tour a lot, and have my stuff insured through Musicpro. No claims, > yet, > thankfully, but I've heard good stuff about them, and I feel at least > somewha secure. > >> >> On 8-Jan-07, at 1:20 PM, monk wrote: >> >>> i own a recording studio and also tour. so i have a fair amount of >>> value tied up in gear... i simply can't afford to spend $20,000 per >>> year for insurance. >> >> I have a studio and tour too. Check out musicproinsurance.com. Here >> in Canada it's AWFUL trying to find insurance cheap. Canadian >> homeowners flat won't cover pro equipment and they make no bones about >> it. When you ask they just get confused and chew their nails. I >> think >> musicpro is pretty reputable. I found them through ASCAP. Again, >> haven't had to make any claims yet, and hope I never do... but >> SOMETHING is better than NOTHING! >> >> You may need a US address to get musicproinsurance. I have one so it >> worked fine for me. >> >> richard sales >> glassWing farm and studio >> vancouver island, b.c. >> 800.545.6846 >> 250.752.4816 >> www.glassWing.com >> www.richardsales.com >> www.hayleysales.com >> www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:11 PM, samba - wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> You can get instrument insurance through the musicians union. It >>>> might be possible to insure vintage instruments as antiques, or >>>> heirlooms rather than musical instruments. Instruments a re less >>>> likely to stay home than antiques,and therefor higher theft risk. >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office >>>> Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ >>>> >>> >> > --Apple-Mail-1-1026063162 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Here's one I'm sure you could answer but I was totally stumped because I use TDM plug ins and never tried to use em live: Arial0000,0000,8080Just trying to use a VST plugin to affect the sound on a line in, and actually hear post effect in the monitor.. So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about 'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by the way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous person. Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit. Thanks times MC squared Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 5:41 PM, improv@peak.org wrote: I tour a lot, and have my stuff insured through Musicpro. No claims, yet, thankfully, but I've heard good stuff about them, and I feel at least somewha secure. On 8-Jan-07, at 1:20 PM, monk wrote: i own a recording studio and also tour. so i have a fair amount of value tied up in gear... i simply can't afford to spend $20,000 per year for insurance. I have a studio and tour too. Check out musicproinsurance.com. Here in Canada it's AWFUL trying to find insurance cheap. Canadian homeowners flat won't cover pro equipment and they make no bones about it. When you ask they just get confused and chew their nails. I think musicpro is pretty reputable. I found them through ASCAP. Again, haven't had to make any claims yet, and hope I never do... but SOMETHING is better than NOTHING! You may need a US address to get musicproinsurance. I have one so it worked fine for me. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:11 PM, samba - wrote: You can get instrument insurance through the musicians union. It might be possible to insure vintage instruments as antiques, or heirlooms rather than musical instruments. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 04:30:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F7223BEB9; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 04:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 22:30:41 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: question for a friend Cc: Miles Ward Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <_BaMDC.A.6O.2pxoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 04:30:46 +0000 (UTC) At 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote: > >So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and >HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about >'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to >Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by >the way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous >person. Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit. Yeah, you're right. Lots of people here do that exact kind of thing (unless I'm missing a level of complexity in your question), and there are a lot of ways to do it depending upon one's personal preferences. Quick question to start, however: is there a computing platform he prefers (Mac, Win, or Linux)? --m. -- _______ "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 04:57:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7E423BEC5; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 04:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=f8ZV8KUFoL60L3J8rFcwuq+NMMpzLuv4afSjQ8EzdMVMY2ViCQ1o5/GoqXwtyIeMgTzYQqHHDs1nf8hKJOsJS6u4qLP7aaTNNosKLwcWBnAyl05ljl8h53E4/Oj11PXgMupqIiyWzekA52Ek8VlcXAVgXrZw/q2EmC6l/j0jndE= Message-ID: <913728d60701082057s26422e6cw6ba594f9d874e981@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 22:57:37 -0600 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: foot controller suggestion for a software looper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 04:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Hello all! so I am thinking about going to software for my looping needs, and the mobius looper is really cool. I have been playing around with it for about 6 months now, but what i would like is to be able to use my computer for live looping sessions, and I would like to be able to trigger several functions with a midi foot controller, but I don't exactly know which one i want. I am seriously considering the behringer midi foot controller, but I don't know if that will work with mobius--does it? otherwise is there another <200 USD solution that I am unaware of? Thanks, Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 05:04:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51ACF3BEC2; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 05:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: 9_Aijb8VM1lwksRdFbzX48vjFV.qSbcABBjV9d6KavypazCtFfK3ED_CAXx6m0RWraEfKxglmWYRo9T7f.bTzFR64NroVYZHP1ZVBmfREU67P._QPNeuG7yaPHgirX2OUh5ON6QO2_SMPbOJsLDfhSHmbRscNSWtWPyYkcmR6eUY3vHSwkoZHLCirADB Message-ID: <45A32267.5050707@infinivert.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 23:04:39 -0600 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: foot controller suggestion for a software looper References: <913728d60701082057s26422e6cw6ba594f9d874e981@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <913728d60701082057s26422e6cw6ba594f9d874e981@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0701-6, 01/08/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <4PzRJC.A.KjB.wJyoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 05:04:48 +0000 (UTC) I use the FCB1010 with Mobius. It's a bit complicated, but it works like a champ. You'll need some sort of MIDI -> USB device. Mine is an Edirol. --Josh Charlie Milkey wrote: > Hello all! > > so I am thinking about going to software for my looping needs, and the > mobius looper is really cool. I have been playing around with it for > about 6 months now, but what i would like is to be able to use my > computer for live looping sessions, and I would like to be able to > trigger several functions with a midi foot controller, but I don't > exactly know which one i want. I am seriously considering the > behringer midi foot controller, but I don't know if that will work > with mobius--does it? otherwise is there another <200 USD solution > that I am unaware of? > > > Thanks, > Charlie > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 05:12:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81AB03BECA; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 05:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-1033772152 Message-Id: Cc: Miles Ward From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:12:13 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <_H4FEC.A.H5B.xQyoFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 05:12:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-1033772152 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed He's a Windows systems designer, a wanderer and master of terabytes, fiber networks and tubas... and he's always been a windows man so I'm assuming that's what he's using. Mies, are you there? Yoooo hoooooo! (It's 9:00 p.m. - he's probably just leaving work). thanks richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 8:30 PM, mech wrote: > At 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote: >> >> So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and >> HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about >> 'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to >> Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by >> the way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous >> person. Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit. > > Yeah, you're right. Lots of people here do that exact kind of thing > (unless I'm missing a level of complexity in your question), and there > are a lot of ways to do it depending upon one's personal preferences. > > Quick question to start, however: is there a computing platform he > prefers (Mac, Win, or Linux)? > > --m. > -- > _______ > "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike..." > --Apple-Mail-1-1033772152 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII He's a Windows systems designer, a wanderer and master of terabytes, fiber networks and tubas... and he's always been a windows man so I'm assuming that's what he's using. Mies, are you there? Yoooo hoooooo! (It's 9:00 p.m. - he's probably just leaving work). thanks Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 8:30 PM, mech wrote: At 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote: So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about 'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by the way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous person. Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit. Yeah, you're right. Lots of people here do that exact kind of thing (unless I'm missing a level of complexity in your question), and there are a lot of ways to do it depending upon one's personal preferences. Quick question to start, however: is there a computing platform he prefers (Mac, Win, or Linux)? --m. -- _______ "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike..." --Apple-Mail-1-1033772152-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 05:38:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB4DF3BEC2; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 05:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0cdf01c733b0$608aac70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Subject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 22:38:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0CDC_01C73375.B3408A10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 05:38:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0CDC_01C73375.B3408A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If he wants to keep things simple with not a lot of programming or = fiddlig with virtual wires, commands, etc, I'd use something like the = Chainer VST host, with a decent sound card, and then take advantage of = all the free VST plugins available on KVR Audio. Here is something I wrote up for another person interested in getting = his feet wet with VST plugins: 1. Download the demo version of Chainer: = http://www.xlutop.com/html/downloads.html 2. Download these free VST plugins, and put the .dll files in the same = folder, somewhere on your CD drive: a.. tube amp simulator: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html (it is = free, and absolutely delightful..very warm and natural sounding)=20 b.. compressor: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1144.html (really nice, = and free)=20 c.. reverb: http://www.anwida.com/product.asp?pid=3D7 (excellent and = free)=20 d.. chorus: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html (it is free, and = absolutely=20 delightful...very warm and natural sounding)=20 e.. delay: http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-delay.php (also free) f.. More here: http://www.kvraudio.com, and = http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php 3. Launch Chainer. There is a dropdown menu for Options...there is a = place where you tell it where your VST directory is (Plugin = Directories)...just point it to the director with your VST dll files. = You also need to select your soundcard in the System and Settings = section 4. The first slot of your Chainer rack is your input. Just click on the = drop down arrow and click "Insert Input" 5. Now click on the next drop down arrow for the next rack slot, and = click Effects...you should see the VSTs you put in your directory. Fill = the next five slots with the above VSTs, or more...you can use a = different order if you want. 6. To deactivate a plugin, you click the button that is between the = plug-in window and the section with Wet, Pan, Dry, etc To see the plugin = window, parameters, etc, just press the button with "1" in it. You can = tweak the settings and then save them by click on "Presets" and "save = as". You can tweak the dry and wet mixes in each lot as well. This will get anyone up and running with a VST system. For a tuba = player, I would recommend running the laptops sound card inputs/outputs = through the effects loop of a mixer board, so that he can use higher = quality inserts, and also have manual/hardware based control of the mix. Have him email me if he wants more guidance. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sales=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Cc: Miles Ward=20 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:12 PM Subject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS He's a Windows systems designer, a wanderer and master of terabytes, = fiber networks and tubas... and he's always been a windows man so I'm = assuming that's what he's using. Mies, are you there? Yoooo hoooooo! = (It's 9:00 p.m. - he's probably just leaving work). thanks richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 8-Jan-07, at 8:30 PM, mech wrote: At 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote: So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and = HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about 'all = of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to Miles in = the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by the way, one = killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous person. Plays in = my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit. Yeah, you're right. Lots of people here do that exact kind of thing = (unless I'm missing a level of complexity in your question), and there = are a lot of ways to do it depending upon one's personal preferences. Quick question to start, however: is there a computing platform he = prefers (Mac, Win, or Linux)? --m. --=20 _______ "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike..." ------=_NextPart_000_0CDC_01C73375.B3408A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If he wants to keep things simple with = not a lot of=20 programming or fiddlig with virtual wires, commands, etc, I'd use = something like=20 the Chainer VST host, with a decent sound card, and then take = advantage of=20 all the free VST plugins available on KVR Audio.
 
Here is something I wrote up for = another person=20 interested in getting his feet wet with VST plugins:
 
1. Download the demo version of = Chainer: http://www.xlutop.com/= html/downloads.html
 
2. Download these free VST plugins, and = put the=20 .dll files in the same folder, somewhere on your CD drive:
3. Launch Chainer. There is a = dropdown menu=20 for Options...there is a place where you tell it where your VST = directory is=20 (Plugin Directories)...just point it to the director with your VST dll = files.=20 You also need to select your soundcard in the System and Settings=20 section
 
4. The first slot of your Chainer rack = is your=20 input. Just click on the drop down arrow and click "Insert = Input"
 
5. Now click on the next drop down = arrow for the=20 next rack slot, and click Effects...you should see the VSTs you put in = your=20 directory. Fill the next five slots with the above VSTs, or more...you = can use a=20 different order if you want.
 
6. To deactivate a plugin, you click = the button=20 that is between the plug-in window and the section with Wet, Pan, Dry, = etc To=20 see the plugin window, parameters, etc, just press the button with "1" = in it.=20 You can tweak the settings and then save them by click on "Presets" and = "save=20 as".  You can tweak the dry and wet mixes in each lot as = well.
 
This will get anyone up and running = with a VST=20 system. For a tuba player, I would recommend running the laptops sound = card=20 inputs/outputs through the effects loop of a mixer board, so that he can = use=20 higher quality inserts, and also have manual/hardware based control of = the=20 mix.
 
Have him email me if he wants more=20 guidance.
 
Kris
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard=20 Sales
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Cc: Miles Ward
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 = 10:12=20 PM
Subject: Re: question for a = friend -=20 MILES! READ THIS

He's a Windows systems designer, a wanderer and master = of=20 terabytes, fiber networks and tubas... and he's always been a windows = man so=20 I'm assuming that's what he's using. Mies, are you there? Yoooo = hoooooo! (It's=20 9:00 p.m. - he's probably just leaving = work).

thanks
richard = sales
glassWing farm and=20 studio
vancouver island, = b.c.
800.545.6846
250.752.4816
www.glassWing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com
www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
On=20 8-Jan-07, at 8:30 PM, mech wrote:

At 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote:

So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug = ins=20 live - and HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been = reading=20 about 'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can = reply to=20 Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, = by the=20 way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous = person.=20 Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical = Fruit.

Yeah,=20 you're right. Lots of people here do that exact kind of thing = (unless I'm=20 missing a level of complexity in your question), and there are a lot = of ways=20 to do it depending upon one's personal preferences.

Quick = question to=20 start, however: is there a computing platform he prefers (Mac, Win, = or=20 Linux)?

--m.
--
_______
"You are in a maze of = twisty little=20 passages, all = alike..."

------=_NextPart_000_0CDC_01C73375.B3408A10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 07:14:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECB853BEB9; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0cdf01c733b0$608aac70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <0cdf01c733b0$608aac70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 01:13:36 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS Cc: Miles Ward Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:14:06 +0000 (UTC) I'd second Kris' recommendations, with the caveat that there probably should be a little thought and discussion put into the type of soundcard hardware he's considering. There are plenty of options out there depending upon what you're looking to do: simple stereo or multiple output; Cardbus, USB, or Firewire; digital I/O; self-contained or break-out box; and, of course, price. And, as he mentioned, this is a simple solution (simple is good). There are more complex solutions (Ableton Live, NI Reaktor) and much more complex solutions (Bidule, Max, Audiomulch, PD, Supercollider). Again, depends on if there are any further aims to what he's doing, as well as how much of a hexhead he wants to be. ;) --m. At 10:38 PM -0700 1/8/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: >If he wants to keep things simple with not a lot of programming or >fiddlig with virtual wires, commands, etc, I'd use something like >the Chainer VST host, with a decent sound card, and then take >advantage of all the free VST plugins available on KVR Audio. > >Here is something I wrote up for another person interested in >getting his feet wet with VST plugins: > >1. Download the demo version of Chainer: >http://www.xlutop.com/html/downloads.html > >2. Download these free VST plugins, and put the .dll files in the >same folder, somewhere on your CD drive: > >tube amp simulator: <>http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html (it is >free, and absolutely delightful..very warm and natural sounding) >compressor: <>http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1144.html (really nice, and free) >reverb: <>http://www.anwida.com/product.asp?pid=7 (excellent and free) >chorus: <>http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html (it is free, and absolutely >delightful...very warm and natural sounding) >delay: <>http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-delay.php (also free) >More here: http://www.kvraudio.com, >and http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php >3. Launch Chainer. There is a dropdown menu for Options...there is a >place where you tell it where your VST directory is (Plugin >Directories)...just point it to the director with your VST dll >files. You also need to select your soundcard in the System and >Settings section > >4. The first slot of your Chainer rack is your input. Just click on >the drop down arrow and click "Insert Input" > >5. Now click on the next drop down arrow for the next rack slot, and >click Effects...you should see the VSTs you put in your directory. >Fill the next five slots with the above VSTs, or more...you can use >a different order if you want. > >6. To deactivate a plugin, you click the button that is between the >plug-in window and the section with Wet, Pan, Dry, etc To see the >plugin window, parameters, etc, just press the button with "1" in >it. You can tweak the settings and then save them by click on >"Presets" and "save as". You can tweak the dry and wet mixes in >each lot as well. > >This will get anyone up and running with a VST system. For a tuba >player, I would recommend running the laptops sound card >inputs/outputs through the effects loop of a mixer board, so that he >can use higher quality inserts, and also have manual/hardware based >control of the mix. > >Have him email me if he wants more guidance. > >Kris > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Richard Sales >To: >Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Cc: Miles Ward >Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:12 PM >Subject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS > >He's a Windows systems designer, a wanderer and master of terabytes, >fiber networks and tubas... and he's always been a windows man so >I'm assuming that's what he's using. Mies, are you there? Yoooo >hoooooo! (It's 9:00 p.m. - he's probably just leaving work). > >thanks >richard sales >glassWing farm and studio >vancouver island, b.c. >800.545.6846 >250.752.4816 >www.glassWing.com >www.richardsales.com >www.hayleysales.com >www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com >On 8-Jan-07, at 8:30 PM, mech wrote: > >At 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote: > > >So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and >HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about >'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to >Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by >the way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous >person. Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit. > > >Yeah, you're right. Lots of people here do that exact kind of thing >(unless I'm missing a level of complexity in your question), and >there are a lot of ways to do it depending upon one's personal >preferences. > >Quick question to start, however: is there a computing platform he >prefers (Mac, Win, or Linux)? > >--m. >-- >_______ >"You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 07:20:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68BF53BEB8; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=LvZGm/jSThavkZ4th88cnZrUFEJbAB3ywqG4zE7G4tkv4hA5DMciT1u70Jn5ChZ3Dq7U4/Uu8llfetZlsfEWj9XYPdeeCzkEdbmHmqAZTbuCGA6bCNDLWmc7JmQGtu4B+dRMMUSajYYdEWAfEK19Wxo4avDQ+zYXlOlAVQWLeFw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <89D1ABF4-08D5-4E5B-AFDD-1740DD68D900@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:20:18 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:20:23 +0000 (UTC) >> At 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote: >>> >>> So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and >>> HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading >>> about 'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can >>> reply to Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your >>> replies. He is, by the way, one killer tuba (actually >>> sousaphone) player and a fabulous person. Plays in my sometimes >>> band, The Musical Fruit. The only difference between TDM and VST is that with VST you have to live with a certain latency of the direct signal input. This may not be a problem for electric guitarists, because their instrument doesn't make an acoustic sound and they can then easily adopt to play with their notes coming out a little later than they're used to. However, for a tuba player the VST affected sound will have to merge with the acoustic sound and with some plug-ins this can cause phasing problems, if the VST is of the "insert effect" type rather than of the "aux loop effect" type (reverb, delay etc). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 15:03:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1669D3BEDF; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <200701091455.l09EsMmN032431@virt6b.secure-wi.com> References: <200701091455.l09EsMmN032431@virt6b.secure-wi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-1069244300 Message-Id: Cc: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:03:25 -0800 To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:03:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-1069244300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed There's my man! Thanks to all of you for responding richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 9-Jan-07, at 6:54 AM, Miles Ward wrote: > Wow! Thanks everyone for the great advice. I=92ve got an external USB=20= > sound card (M-audio fast track pro) with the lovely feature to cross=20= > fade dry input and wet output from the machine, which is exactly the=20= > desired effect.=A0 Supercollider rocks, have you guys played with=20 > c-sound?=A0 Chainer looks perfect, I=92ll do some experimentation = tonight=20 > and send you links to what comes out! > -Miles > =A0 > > From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:58 PM > To: Miles Ward > Cc: Krispen Hartung > Subject: Fwd: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS > =A0 > > thanks kris > > I'm forwarding this to Miles. Hopefully he's home from work now -=20 > almost 10:00 > > And Mileage - some answers below: > > Begin forwarded message: > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: "Krispen Hartung" > Date: January 8, 2007 9:38:21 PM PST > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > If he wants to keep things simple with not a lot of programming or=20 > fiddlig with virtual wires, commands, etc, I'd use something like the=20= > Chainer VST host, with a decent sound card, and then take advantage=A0of= =20 > all the free VST plugins available on KVR Audio. > =A0 > Here is something I wrote up for another person interested in getting=20= > his feet wet with VST plugins: > =A0 > 1. Download the demo version of Chainer:=20 > http://www.xlutop.com/html/downloads.html > =A0 > 2. Download these free VST plugins, and put the .dll files in the=20 > same folder, somewhere on your CD drive: > =95 tube amp simulator: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html(it is=20= > free, and absolutely delightful..very warm and natural sounding) > =95 compressor: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1144.html=A0(really nice, = and=20 > free) > =95 reverb: http://www.anwida.com/product.asp?pid=3D7=A0(excellent = and free) > =95 chorus: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html(it is free, and=20 > absolutely > delightful...very warm and natural sounding) > =95 delay: http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-delay.php=A0(also = free) > =95 More here: http://www.kvraudio.com,=20 > and=A0http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php > 3. Launch Chainer.=A0There is a dropdown menu for Options...there is = a=20 > place where you tell it where your VST directory is (Plugin=20 > Directories)...just point it to the director with your VST dll files.=20= > You also need to select your soundcard in the System and Settings=20 > section > =A0 > 4. The first slot of your Chainer rack is your input. Just click on=20= > the drop down arrow and click "Insert Input" > =A0 > 5. Now click on the next drop down arrow for the next rack slot, and=20= > click Effects...you should see the VSTs you put in your directory.=20 > Fill the next five slots with the above VSTs, or more...you can use a=20= > different order if you want. > =A0 > 6. To deactivate a plugin, you click the button that is between the=20= > plug-in window and the section with Wet, Pan, Dry, etc To see the=20 > plugin window, parameters, etc, just press the button with "1" in it.=20= > You can tweak the settings and then save them by click on "Presets"=20 > and "save as".=A0 You can tweak the dry and wet mixes in each lot as=20= > well. > =A0 > This will get anyone up and running with a VST system. For a tuba=20 > player, I would recommend running the laptops sound card=20 > inputs/outputs through the effects loop of a mixer board, so that he=20= > can use higher quality inserts, and also have manual/hardware based=20 > control of the mix. > =A0 > Have him email me if he wants more guidance. > =A0 > Kris > =A0 > =A0 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From:Richard Sales > To:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Cc:Miles Ward > Sent:Monday, January 08, 2007 10:12 PM > Subject:Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS > > He's a Windows systems designer, a wanderer and master of terabytes,=20= > fiber networks and tubas... and he's always been a windows man so I'm=20= > assuming that's what he's using. Mies, are you there? Yoooo hoooooo!=20= > (It's 9:00 p.m. - he's probably just leaving work). > > thanks > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 8-Jan-07, at 8:30 PM, mech wrote: > At 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote: > > So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and=20 > HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about=20 > 'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to=20 > Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by=20 > the way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous=20= > person. Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit. > > > Yeah, you're right. Lots of people here do that exact kind of thing=20= > (unless I'm missing a level of complexity in your question), and there=20= > are a lot of ways to do it depending upon one's personal preferences. > > Quick question to start, however: is there a computing platform he=20 > prefers (Mac, Win, or Linux)? > > --m. > -- > _______ > "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike..." --Apple-Mail-1-1069244300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 There's my man! Thanks to all of you for responding Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 9-Jan-07, at 6:54 AM, Miles Ward wrote: = Arial0000,0000,8080Wow! Thanks everyone for the great advice. I=92ve got an external USB sound card (M-audio fast track pro) with the lovely feature to cross fade dry input and wet output from the machine, which is exactly the desired effect.=A0 Supercollider rocks, have you guys played with c-sound?=A0 Chainer looks perfect, I=92ll do some experimentation = tonight and send you links to what comes = out! = Arial0000,0000,8080-Miles = Arial0000,0000,8080=A0 From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:58 PM To: Miles = Ward Cc: Krispen Hartung Subject: Fwd: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS Times New = Roman=A0 Times New Romanthanks = kris Times New Roman I'm forwarding this to Miles. Hopefully he's home from work now - almost 10:00 Times New Roman And Mileage - some answers below: Times New Roman Begin forwarded message: Times New = RomanResent-From: Times New = RomanLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /bigger> Times New RomanFrom: Times New = Roman"Krispen Hartung" < Times New RomanDate: Times New = RomanJanuary 8, 2007 9:38:21 PM PST Times New RomanTo: Times New = RomanLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /bigger> Times New RomanSubject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ = THIS Times New Roman Reply-To: Times New = RomanLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /bigger> Times New Roman If he wants to keep things simple with not a lot of programming or fiddlig with virtual wires, commands, etc, I'd use something like the Chainer VST host, with a decent sound card, and then take advantage=A0of all the free VST plugins available on KVR Audio. Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman Here is something I wrote up for another person interested in getting his feet wet with VST plugins: Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman 1. Download the demo version of Chainer: = http://www.xlutop.com/html/downloads.html Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman 2. Download these free VST plugins, and put the .dll files in the same folder, somewhere on your CD drive: Times New Roman =95 tube amp simulator: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html(it is free, and absolutely delightful..very warm and natural = sounding) Times New Roman =95 compressor: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1144.html=A0(really nice, and free) Times New Roman =95 reverb: http://www.anwida.com/product.asp?pid=3D7=A0(excellent and free) = Times New Roman =95 chorus: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html(it is free, and = absolutely Times New Roman delightful...very warm and natural sounding) = Times New Roman =95 delay: http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-delay.php=A0(also = free) Times New Roman =95 More here: http://www.kvraudio.com, = and=A0http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php Times New Roman 3. Launch Chainer.=A0There is a dropdown menu for Options...there is a place where you tell it where your VST directory is (Plugin Directories)...just point it to the director with your VST dll files. You also need to select your soundcard in the System and Settings = section Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman 4. The first slot of your Chainer rack is your input. Just click on the drop down arrow and click "Insert Input" Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman 5. Now click on the next drop down arrow for the next rack slot, and click Effects...you should see the VSTs you put in your directory. Fill the next five slots with the above VSTs, or more...you can use a different order if you want. Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman 6. To deactivate a plugin, you click the button that is between the plug-in window and the section with Wet, Pan, Dry, etc To see the plugin window, parameters, etc, just press the button with "1" in it. You can tweak the settings and then save them by click on "Presets" and "save as".=A0 You can tweak the dry and wet mixes in each lot as = well. Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman This will get anyone up and running with a VST system. For a tuba player, I would recommend running the laptops sound card inputs/outputs through the effects loop of a mixer board, so that he can use higher quality inserts, and also have manual/hardware based control of the = mix. Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman Have him email me if he wants more guidance. Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman = Kris Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman = =A0 Times New Roman----- Original Message ----- Times New = RomanFrom:Times New RomanRichard Sales Times New = RomanTo:Times New = RomanLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /bigger> Times New = RomanCc:Times New RomanMiles Ward Times New = RomanSent:Times New RomanMonday, January 08, 2007 10:12 PM Times New = RomanSubject:Times New RomanRe: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS Times New Roman He's a Windows systems designer, a wanderer and master of terabytes, fiber networks and tubas... and he's always been a windows man so I'm assuming that's what he's using. Mies, are you there? Yoooo hoooooo! (It's 9:00 p.m. - he's probably just leaving = work). Times New Roman = thanks Times New Roman richard sales Times New Roman glassWing farm and studio Times New Roman vancouver island, b.c. Times New Roman = 800.545.6846 Times New Roman = 250.752.4816 Times New Roman www.glassWing.com Times New Roman www.richardsales.com Times New Roman www.hayleysales.com Times New Roman www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com Times New Roman On 8-Jan-07, at 8:30 PM, mech wrote: Times New RomanAt 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote: Times New Roman So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about 'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by the way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous person. Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit. Times New Roman Yeah, you're right. Lots of people here do that exact kind of thing (unless I'm missing a level of complexity in your question), and there are a lot of ways to do it depending upon one's personal = preferences. Times New Roman Quick question to start, however: is there a computing platform he prefers (Mac, Win, or Linux)? Times New Roman = --m. Times New Roman = -- Times New Roman = _______ Times New Roman "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all = alike..." = --Apple-Mail-1-1069244300-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 15:50:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2A383BED0; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <026601c73405$f89b32f0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:51:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:50:55 +0000 (UTC) I feel a little sheepish saying this, but I've been using my mouth to comb filter tibetan singing bowls and brass candy dishes for ten years in my shows. No one else mentioned it so I thought I'd give myself some credit. It, by the way, doesn't take a lot of technique to do it. Gong the bowl with your thumb............put your mouth up as close as possible to the surface of the resonating object and then make your mouth go through all the shapes of the vowels (which, in essence, amounts to a comb filtering of the frequencies). Certain frequencies of bowl will work better than others. Brass Candy dishes work extremely well with this technique, as do Stainless steel salad mixing bowls. You can also use this technique with really thin glass mixing bowls. Some fifteen years ago, I produced a singer songwriter, Paul Wagner, in a song called "Full Moon Glow". In the chorus, we found a large glass crystal bowl whose resonant frequency was very close to the fundamental of the Chorus. I recorded a track where I merely gonged the bowl and then mouthed the words "Full Moon Glow" in time to the vocals and mixed it in. It gave the track a really eerie effect. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 16:02:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF3B13BEDA; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A3BC92.5000109@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 10:02:26 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: singing bowls (WAS Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart) References: <026601c73405$f89b32f0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <026601c73405$f89b32f0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Bad-ass! How do you mic yourself - pretty much like any vocal tune? Or a mix of mic on the bowl and one on the mouth? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > I feel a little sheepish saying this, but I've been > using my mouth to comb filter tibetan singing bowls and > brass candy dishes for ten years in my shows. > > No one else mentioned it so I thought I'd give myself some credit. > > It, by the way, doesn't take a lot of technique to do it. > > Gong the bowl with your thumb............put your mouth up as close as > possible > to the surface of the resonating object and then make your mouth go > through > all the shapes of the vowels (which, in essence, amounts to a comb > filtering of the frequencies). > Certain frequencies of bowl will work better than others. > > Brass Candy dishes work extremely well with this technique, as do > Stainless steel salad mixing bowls. > You can also use this technique with really thin glass mixing bowls. > > Some fifteen years ago, I produced a singer songwriter, Paul Wagner, > in a song called > "Full Moon Glow". In the chorus, we found a large glass crystal > bowl whose resonant > frequency was very close to the fundamental of the Chorus. > I recorded a track where I merely gonged the bowl and then mouthed the > words > "Full Moon Glow" in time to the vocals and mixed it in. It gave the > track a really eerie effect. > > rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 16:07:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3BCD3BEF6; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <026601c73405$f89b32f0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <026601c73405$f89b32f0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1073051241 Message-Id: <3ef1a73640c2d61f7b30b12cfb8758a5@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:06:52 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <3GTfqB.A.99E.n27oFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:07:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1073051241 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sorry Rick. No sheepish needed! It IS a very cool and eerie sound. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 9-Jan-07, at 7:51 AM, RICK WALKER wrote: > I feel a little sheepish saying this, but I've been > using my mouth to comb filter tibetan singing bowls and > brass candy dishes for ten years in my shows. > > No one else mentioned it so I thought I'd give myself some credit. > > It, by the way, doesn't take a lot of technique to do it. > > Gong the bowl with your thumb............put your mouth up as close as > possible > to the surface of the resonating object and then make your mouth go > through > all the shapes of the vowels (which, in essence, amounts to a comb > filtering of the frequencies). > Certain frequencies of bowl will work better than others. > > Brass Candy dishes work extremely well with this technique, as do > Stainless steel salad mixing bowls. > You can also use this technique with really thin glass mixing bowls. > > Some fifteen years ago, I produced a singer songwriter, Paul Wagner, > in a song called > "Full Moon Glow". In the chorus, we found a large glass crystal > bowl whose resonant > frequency was very close to the fundamental of the Chorus. > I recorded a track where I merely gonged the bowl and then mouthed the > words > "Full Moon Glow" in time to the vocals and mixed it in. It gave the > track a really eerie effect. > > rick walker --Apple-Mail-2-1073051241 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Sorry Rick. No sheepish needed! It IS a very cool and eerie sound. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 9-Jan-07, at 7:51 AM, RICK WALKER wrote: I feel a little sheepish saying this, but I've been using my mouth to comb filter tibetan singing bowls and brass candy dishes for ten years in my shows. No one else mentioned it so I thought I'd give myself some credit. It, by the way, doesn't take a lot of technique to do it. Gong the bowl with your thumb............put your mouth up as close as possible to the surface of the resonating object and then make your mouth go through all the shapes of the vowels (which, in essence, amounts to a comb filtering of the frequencies). Certain frequencies of bowl will work better than others. Brass Candy dishes work extremely well with this technique, as do Stainless steel salad mixing bowls. You can also use this technique with really thin glass mixing bowls. Some fifteen years ago, I produced a singer songwriter, Paul Wagner, in a song called "Full Moon Glow". In the chorus, we found a large glass crystal bowl whose resonant frequency was very close to the fundamental of the Chorus. I recorded a track where I merely gonged the bowl and then mouthed the words "Full Moon Glow" in time to the vocals and mixed it in. It gave the track a really eerie effect. rick walker --Apple-Mail-2-1073051241-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 16:41:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1B553BEE0; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0d9601c7340c$fdebf620$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Subject: Re: insurance Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:41:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for all the input. I just got a quote from Music Pro, since I'm an ASCAP member. The rate was really good, so I submitted the app. However, I am checking with my home owner's insurance as well, given they insure my home, autos, etc, etc...they may be able to beat the rate, though the deductable and conditions may vary. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 17:39:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C38783BEEE; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 17:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=dW0HAYimIUOugHWmAqkJdouAW3kY6ShXEqXItHkVhetausekVskQuyeFQqR9dFI7LKfQje+8arLIENJkTxWX75vFM/EWgWulpv+Mm3uwnSvGr3r0LVX8oyE7Zgn+wNAuGARquDmLex71xbt9pliPUsCegeNnWuovI/f076mcOeA= In-Reply-To: <026601c73405$f89b32f0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <026601c73405$f89b32f0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8211A68F-0E35-4CAB-9866-F42568628259@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Anthropomorphism CURSE UPON Damian Stewart! Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:39:45 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 17:39:52 +0000 (UTC) On 9 jan 2007, at 16.51, RICK WALKER wrote: > using my mouth to comb filter tibetan singing bowls Like you did in that Tibetan Store in Z=FCrich? That was a very cool =20 sound and seemingly easily produced, I noticed ;-) Way back I was experimenting with comb filtering my electric guitar =20 sound with al "talk-box" set-up (a small extra speaker guilt INSIDE a =20= box and a plastic hose leading out the sound from the box and into =20 your mouth. Mouth should be positioned close to a mic to catch the =20 vocalized guitar. Careful with volume to not hurt your teeth). When reading Rick's post I'm starting to wonder if that plastic hose =20 is really needed for vocalizing an electric guitar. Any one here =20 tried to do it? ;-)) He, he... not very cool looking at a live gig =20 though... the guitar hero turning his back to the audience, getting =20 down on all four and making ugly faces to the speaker cabinet and PA =20 mic. Lo-O-L... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 18:12:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50CFF3BEEC; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070109181202.87291.qmail@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=qlLVe1ipZtCok6S9PUabo4bkXuequo5b77DJd2TxqAOvSbwPME54cKlvRKISUVWA2d480UJPZwKmv8jXj8ewmzwtCJzGH1DLiLoEp/eyC+rGKWUP8TU5BqMqFIiCpqS0l3EaT3VK0KnZyUX8Y+73MmPMICgif0VDIDdxgXgyaaI=; X-YMail-OSG: uqnz25kVM1nnHixmI4TYp2jtTQuW5OFxxNXFnAJFHTTbDw0_NDW0elR2SJVvJDwzTdFHMlPGTyAL15AQyvxID0LU4Q8mFEhl8ymkyQJ7Iva4xsyiXByPCPZ2DrirjJTfg2YCzbBBnL.y3qU- Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:12:02 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Once again, I made it back to the list To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Hey all, I finally deceided to rejoin, whereas before, I didn't feel like I was actually a loopist. I mean I experimented with software and that's all well and good, but I finally bought a looping devoce and am experimenting with it. I ended up with what I feel is an entry level unit, a Boss RC2 Loop Station, and rencetly have used it with my band, looping a synth drone I perform with my guitar(not a synth actually, but a series of pitch shifting effects, a wah in the effects loop used more like a filter, some delay and the use of a Fernandes Sustainer), then I would play a four note finger tap that sounds like a sequencer. I know I've only scratched the surface of possibilities, and I can bet I'll be getting another, more involved looper, using them in tandem, so I've decided to come back to the fold and learn as much as I can about looping. Just as a little start, I'll just go over my setup. I'm getting ready to redesign my pedalboard, because of the Loop Station, I'm going to be running a total of 9 effects, if I remember right. I'd run the chain as follows: guitar, wah pedal, Whammy pedal, Tube King overdrive, Grunge distortion, into the amp, effects send, to an EQ, then a Vibrato pedal, into a second wah with the parameters adjusted for a broader sweep for filtering, then my effects processor, used for the modulation and time based effects, to the looper, back into the amp. The idea is to have as many different ways to mess up a sound, or be able to replicate bass and synth/organ tones without the use of a guitar synth, though that idea is not being ruled out. The sustainer really has opened up a lot of ideas for me and I'm trying to use my fingers more than a pick, mainly for popping and slapping then a two handed tapping technique. Anywa that's all I have for now. Bri(the bald guy) www.twistedmindsband.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 19:11:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAD413BEE1; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 19:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.178] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070109160229.C21FA3BEE0@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: preserving digital art Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:11:27 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2007 19:11:30.0202 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7F62FA0:01C73421] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 19:11:32 +0000 (UTC) http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,53712-1.html?tw=wn_story_page_next1 _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 20:39:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6C4C3BEE1; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nik Reply-To: Nik To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: boss GE-7 eq question... Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:38:46 +0000 Message-ID: <63VdGkz28ddK.pTLK4JQq@smtp.gotadsl.co.uk> X-Mailer:EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: i-default Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Sounds broken to me. Nik ________________ Reply Header ________________ Subject: boss GE-7 eq question... Author: legion@helpwantedproductions.com Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:56:14 +0000 anyone familiar with this puppy? I just picked one up and it seems that = three of the more mid-rage sliders have no effect eithr cutting or boosting = the sound. figured some of the levels would be more subtle than others but the low = and high end and two in the middle really scoop the sound a lot for I = figure I should be able to hear *some* differnce no? I am using a fresh battery and tried it on two guitars and two synths at = various pitches. The unit looks brand new so I cant imagine what could be = wrong with it but it seems a little weird and there is no differnece when = tweaking. Anyone ever run into this? Any/all help appreciated thanks! --=20 ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 9 23:46:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C3923BEE9; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070109184558.t5fplyk7wgkgswk4@www.wightman.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:45:58 -0500 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: insurance References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <0d9601c7340c$fdebf620$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <0d9601c7340c$fdebf620$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Resent-Message-ID: <9yXXmC.A.M2E._kCpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:46:07 +0000 (UTC) My van was broken into in Ottawa some years ago and I lost about 6,000 worth of gear. My homeowners insurance covered replacement value and I didn't even have additional riders on the equipment.... I think it may have hinged on how much performing I was doing at the time so I wasn't seen to be a fulltime player. Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada Quoting Krispen Hartung : > Thanks for all the input. I just got a quote from Music Pro, since > I'm an ASCAP member. The rate was really good, so I submitted the > app. However, I am checking with my home owner's insurance as well, > given they insure my home, autos, etc, etc...they may be able to beat > the rate, though the deductable and conditions may vary. > > Kris > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 00:36:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E91B13BEE7; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070110003653.39861.qmail@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=M6HUUTjqHooWRVExzhVz4s8RYB7XZPKqM+a1BWPlUvHPF2V6DcgHUcwGuvQWR16QPLVh7PqwdxYiEUBxefxwV52G+ePoT6mBpHb0UxLcMxgaRiqciDeNwHZz0ezv4HzKxAJ5Ax8MzNffdH1oHuwVA8mKHXGGIMDv1gVodadkm0E=; X-YMail-OSG: RdUD.kcVM1k02kfFHryQEs1yZ1mm4nlg0dLnOi3K0I1F_H4QBKJLnM7v7g44tXaG.eAqtmcIc_EGGdyfRtXJNKf8kLjQW_Z7N7phQvgnvOl0QVDYiS1GSpa8aC7Ssy3EhU0TcOpzJ1aL6m0- Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:36:53 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: mouth/bowl sounds To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:36:55 +0000 (UTC) howdy, As a little kid, i use to take album covers and rapiddly move to and from my mouth while howling a note. It was fasciting. Did it for hours. Then I'd get my little brother to scream at me while i screamedb back. Unbelievable phasing filtering, etc. Then of course, singing into a fan. little did I realize it would lead me to sound engineering when I "growed up". Rig __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 01:33:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8971B3BEE0; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20070109184558.t5fplyk7wgkgswk4@www.wightman.ca> References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <0d9601c7340c$fdebf620$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20070109184558.t5fplyk7wgkgswk4@www.wightman.ca> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1041150521 Message-Id: <3c337e98af3231ca218f09d1e89a531b@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: insurance Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 17:21:34 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:33:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1041150521 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed You're kidding! I told our agency here in BC and they freaked. But I have a lot of stuff to insure. Maybe it's that. I think the words 'recording studio' gives 'em the willies. ???? richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 9-Jan-07, at 3:45 PM, phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: > My van was broken into in Ottawa some years ago and I lost about 6,000 > worth of > gear. My homeowners insurance covered replacement value and I didn't > even have > additional riders on the equipment.... I think it may have hinged on > how much > performing I was doing at the time so I wasn't seen to be a fulltime > player. > > > Paul Haslem > Ontario, Canada > > > > > Quoting Krispen Hartung : > >> Thanks for all the input. I just got a quote from Music Pro, since >> I'm an ASCAP member. The rate was really good, so I submitted the >> app. However, I am checking with my home owner's insurance as well, >> given they insure my home, autos, etc, etc...they may be able to beat >> the rate, though the deductable and conditions may vary. >> >> Kris >> >> >> > --Apple-Mail-1--1041150521 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII You're kidding! I told our agency here in BC and they freaked. But I have a lot of stuff to insure. Maybe it's that. I think the words 'recording studio' gives 'em the willies. ???? Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 9-Jan-07, at 3:45 PM, phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: My van was broken into in Ottawa some years ago and I lost about 6,000 worth of gear. My homeowners insurance covered replacement value and I didn't even have additional riders on the equipment.... I think it may have hinged on how much performing I was doing at the time so I wasn't seen to be a fulltime player. Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada Quoting Krispen Hartung <: Thanks for all the input. I just got a quote from Music Pro, since I'm an ASCAP member. The rate was really good, so I submitted the app. However, I am checking with my home owner's insurance as well, given they insure my home, autos, etc, etc...they may be able to beat the rate, though the deductable and conditions may vary. Kris --Apple-Mail-1--1041150521-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 02:49:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2438A3BEE0; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 02:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000701c73461$f79ca9e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20070109181202.87291.qmail@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Cassette 4-Track... Req! Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 02:49:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <_4NMJ.A.2yC.HRFpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 02:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks! Remember 4-track cassette recorders? I've got to get ahold of a cassette 4-track to remaster some old tapes to high res data files. Having looked at the few that seem to be out there I didn't get the impression that the Tascam or Fostex was really what I wanted, quality-wise. I need a 4-track cassette machine with an excellent tape path, motor etc. - something suitable to work with cassettes, some of which (however carefully and lovingly stored) are circa 1980. (I've got to do something while getting my finger back to snap - and it's coming along well, for those who helped in April) I never used dbx or dolby to do any of these masters, so that's not an issue. I just need something quiet and fine. Your suggestions are greatly appreciated. Happy New Year a week late... Stephen Goodman * * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 04:39:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ABAA3BEDF; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=LANCEvCMieFP+dLBXAnYppCFZDU736ncaYI+DO/htwVpDdhT9lv0pd8H7WuWUp1Zk1jVyigAim22nCQe0jNw+UuR9/8Hwl6NTHP68kGh1njE1evtpAB+t7fI9Bz/SV6Rf8FtoXHlyVkoPnCpOfmAs3YXpHUxNTRxNFeWOm1mxek=; X-YMail-OSG: Oxzc85EVM1kSoqiT0Ut4wpO2Slkkc03suaU1hj0E2IRuxRrsMxyBlQgUcghA4fDFLDNMjuEVqi72fyuvKKeBuevDK6wUhU1YEP4iq.H0SbtBFCp1ux.ccQ-- Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:39:19 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: EDP woes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <108311.45337.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5seUFB.A.ksF.43GpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:39:20 +0000 (UTC) loop IV is the same as what u see on the screen, it depends how sofisticated u want to get with the new EDP functions,you can always start just programing the basic functions on it like on the EFC-7, and with our help on this list you should be up and runing soon,but try it out first,read the manuals with patience and let us know when u get stucked. Cheers Luis --- David Gans wrote: > At 12:11 AM -0800 1/8/07, L.A. Angulo wrote: > >don´t throw the EDP just the EFC-7 and get the > >Behringer fcb1010 plus loopIV and you will be in > >heaven! > > This Loop IV is something other than the "Loop 4" > I see on the "startup screen"? > > The Behringer pedal looks interesting. How much > MIDI diddling would I have to do to make it work > with the EDP? (I have ZERO experience with MIDI.) > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, > Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 04:46:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAA313BEE7; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <108311.45337.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <108311.45337.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:46:03 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:46:17 +0000 (UTC) At 8:39 PM -0800 1/9/07, L.A. Angulo wrote: >loop IV is the same as what u see on the screen, >it depends how sofisticated u want to get with the new >EDP functions,you can always start just programing the >basic functions on it like on the EFC-7, and with our >help on this list you should be up and runing soon,but >try it out first,read the manuals with patience and >let us know when u get stucked. >Cheers >Luis I'm about to go on tour for two weeks. I will order the Behringer pedal board and tackle the problem when I get home. Travis Hartnett gave me detailed instructions on how to program it. I hope this is the only problem with this unit! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 04:54:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B83CF3BEE7; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <18952609.1168404867405.JavaMail.root@web23> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:54:27 -0800 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cassette 4-Track... Req! Cc: Stephen Goodman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:54:28 +0000 (UTC) I'm sure this is overkill for what you want to do but I also have been planning on getting a 4 track cassette recorder so I can master my 4 track cassettes. I have a box full and will probably be surprised to hear what's on them (I hope surprised as in good). I've been pricing the Tascam 688 Midi-studio's on eBay but they're not cheap. $350-$400. Still, it's not a bad price for what they're are (were) if they're running and in excellent condition. -- Paul ---- Stephen Goodman wrote: > Hi folks! > > Remember 4-track cassette recorders? > > I've got to get ahold of a cassette 4-track to remaster some old tapes to > high res data files. Having looked at the few that seem to be out there I > didn't get the impression that the Tascam or Fostex was really what I > wanted, quality-wise. I need a 4-track cassette machine with an excellent > tape path, motor etc. - something suitable to work with cassettes, some of > which (however carefully and lovingly stored) are circa 1980. (I've got to > do something while getting my finger back to snap - and it's coming along > well, for those who helped in April) > > I never used dbx or dolby to do any of these masters, so that's not an > issue. I just need something quiet and fine. Your suggestions are greatly > appreciated. > > Happy New Year a week late... > Stephen Goodman > * > * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff > * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack > * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! > * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 05:03:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94C9F3BEEE; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aleEbr1+PZOWEuPCkFA++CSBTdxuVLc6n0s+omTrSDxjXOMs4tCjQLSpcuXPlGriao5bizGcqzieqXP8xST61kQWXpRCpFLhTMYT2eCXJJmAi3Jgzh1UCxj6lJEImi69k11+tDq/fw8INd4KgDhQIWUkKGJKHAkAJ7nStfv925M=; X-YMail-OSG: DdobnRsVM1kethfYtIh8mIqehUcAV0PRfZcDglCauqmtq_jWSYc0LNt5ojMRFvBbxbcpNu.cuuRzEGe8kBcfHk3ZH6SFEwIXJbTY1NWF5jBCGUfGWCFSYQ-- Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 21:03:27 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: EDP woes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20413.94866.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:03:29 +0000 (UTC) believe me it is,long ago i almost threw the EDP out the window not realising it was that flaky pedal! good luck Luis --- David Gans wrote: > At 8:39 PM -0800 1/9/07, L.A. Angulo wrote: > >loop IV is the same as what u see on the screen, > >it depends how sofisticated u want to get with the > new > >EDP functions,you can always start just programing > the > >basic functions on it like on the EFC-7, and with > our > >help on this list you should be up and runing > soon,but > >try it out first,read the manuals with patience and > >let us know when u get stucked. > >Cheers > >Luis > > I'm about to go on tour for two weeks. I will order > the Behringer > pedal board and tackle the problem when I get home. > Travis Hartnett > gave me detailed instructions on how to program it. > > I hope this is the only problem with this unit! > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, > Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 05:10:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69E8F3BEDF; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20413.94866.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20413.94866.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 21:07:25 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:10:59 +0000 (UTC) At 9:03 PM -0800 1/9/07, L.A. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 06:39:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D827F3BEE2; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A48A0B.1030504@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:39:07 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cassette 4-Track... Req! References: <20070109181202.87291.qmail@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000701c73461$f79ca9e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> In-Reply-To: <000701c73461$f79ca9e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Heh heh heh...do I ever, it's my main looping machine. I love 'em! Go with a Tascam, the 424 mark 3 or the 464 are both excellent machines with good transports, and you can usually get either for less than $100 on Ebay. I own seven four-tracks, unfortunately five of them are in storage and the other two are here with me in south Mexico, or I'd be happy to lend you one. Feel free to come on by, tho'. Oh, and Paul, be careful, the 688's are eight track cassette, not four. However, the 644 is a four-track with similar mixing and automation capabilities. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Hi folks! > > Remember 4-track cassette recorders? > > I've got to get ahold of a cassette 4-track to remaster some old tapes > to high res data files. Having looked at the few that seem to be out > there I didn't get the impression that the Tascam or Fostex was really > what I wanted, quality-wise. I need a 4-track cassette machine with > an excellent tape path, motor etc. - something suitable to work with > cassettes, some of which (however carefully and lovingly stored) are > circa 1980. (I've got to do something while getting my finger back to > snap - and it's coming along well, for those who helped in April) > > I never used dbx or dolby to do any of these masters, so that's not an > issue. I just need something quiet and fine. Your suggestions are > greatly appreciated. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 08:42:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE3FF3BECC; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.248] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com From: "samba -" Subject: Music/diy electronic swap meet Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:42:12 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2007 08:42:15.0830 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B03F360:01C73493] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:42:18 +0000 (UTC) http://www.euthymia.org/swap/ _________________________________________________________________ Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series.  Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 14:45:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0811A3BEE1; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e701c734c5$f668e660$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20070109181202.87291.qmail@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000701c73461$f79ca9e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <45A48A0B.1030504@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: Cassette 4-Track... Req! Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:45:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Thanks so far guys. I'd really like to get something that's not a used piece of equipment, if only for peace of mind. I should have mentioned that my masters weren't done at 3-3/4 ips as for instance the Tascam 414 MKII offers up... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Wednesday, 10 January, 2007 06:39 AM Subject: Re: Cassette 4-Track... Req! > Heh heh heh...do I ever, it's my main looping machine. I love 'em! Go with > a Tascam, the 424 mark 3 or the 464 are both excellent machines with good > transports, and you can usually get either for less than $100 on Ebay. > > I own seven four-tracks, unfortunately five of them are in storage and the > other two are here with me in south Mexico, or I'd be happy to lend you > one. Feel free to come on by, tho'. > > Oh, and Paul, be careful, the 688's are eight track cassette, not four. > However, the 644 is a four-track with similar mixing and automation > capabilities. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > >> Hi folks! >> >> Remember 4-track cassette recorders? >> >> I've got to get ahold of a cassette 4-track to remaster some old tapes to >> high res data files. Having looked at the few that seem to be out there >> I didn't get the impression that the Tascam or Fostex was really what I >> wanted, quality-wise. I need a 4-track cassette machine with an >> excellent tape path, motor etc. - something suitable to work with >> cassettes, some of which (however carefully and lovingly stored) are >> circa 1980. (I've got to do something while getting my finger back to >> snap - and it's coming along well, for those who helped in April) >> >> I never used dbx or dolby to do any of these masters, so that's not an >> issue. I just need something quiet and fine. Your suggestions are >> greatly appreciated. > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 14:55:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE0E13BEF5; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 592491765 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C734C7.56A4761F" Subject: RE: Cassette 4-Track... Req! Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:55:16 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72579848@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Cassette 4-Track... Req! Thread-Index: Acc0xpfkVV1mT1PeQj+inLln18ebfw== References: <45A48A0B.1030504@mhorse.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2007 14:55:16.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[56B70640:01C734C7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:55:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C734C7.56A4761F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable one caveat- not all cassette four tracks were created equal. I'm sure = you've got the obvious stuff covered- tape speed, = permanently-engaged-noise-reduction, separate track outputs, that sort = of thing. BUT I made a load of recordings on a teac/tascam 244 protastudio that I = borrowed.=20 a few years later, I had very briefly (because it turned out to be a = P.o.C.) a little vestax portastudio, & tried to play some of these tapes = back. the even-numbered tracks were out-of-phase with the odd-numbered tracks. when I replaced the P.o.C with a fostex 160, everything was alright = again. so.... just something to watch out for. d. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C734C7.56A4761F Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Cassette 4-Track... Req!

one caveat- not all cassette four tracks were created = equal. I'm sure you've got the obvious stuff covered- tape speed, = permanently-engaged-noise-reduction, separate track outputs, that sort = of thing.
BUT
I made a load of recordings on a teac/tascam 244 protastudio that I = borrowed.

a few years later, I had very briefly (because it turned out to be a = P.o.C.) a little vestax portastudio, & tried to play some of these = tapes back.
the even-numbered tracks were out-of-phase with the odd-numbered = tracks.

when I replaced the P.o.C with a fostex 160, everything was alright = again.

so.... just something to watch out for.

d.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C734C7.56A4761F-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 15:09:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E3D03BEF7; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00f201c734c9$422b6700$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <45A48A0B.1030504@mhorse.com> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72579848@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Subject: Re: Cassette 4-Track... Req! Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:08:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EF_01C734C9.41572710" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:09:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01C734C9.41572710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Cassette 4-Track... Req!Hm, good thinking there. I had forgotten about the track rearrangement. The tapes in question = were recorded on a Yamaha MT1X, whose tracks are numbered 4-3-2-1 from = top to bottom. Boy, THAT would've been upsetting post-purchase. = Thanks! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Goddard, Duncan=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, 10 January, 2007 14:55 PM Subject: RE: Cassette 4-Track... Req! one caveat- not all cassette four tracks were created equal. I'm sure = you've got the obvious stuff covered- tape speed, = permanently-engaged-noise-reduction, separate track outputs, that sort = of thing. BUT I made a load of recordings on a teac/tascam 244 protastudio that I = borrowed. a few years later, I had very briefly (because it turned out to be a = P.o.C.) a little vestax portastudio, & tried to play some of these tapes = back. the even-numbered tracks were out-of-phase with the odd-numbered = tracks. when I replaced the P.o.C with a fostex 160, everything was alright = again. so.... just something to watch out for. d.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01C734C9.41572710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Cassette 4-Track... Req!
Hm, good thinking there.
 
I had forgotten about the track rearrangement.  = The tapes=20 in question were recorded on a Yamaha MT1X, whose tracks are numbered = 4-3-2-1=20 from top to bottom.  Boy, THAT would've been upsetting = post-purchase. =20 Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Goddard, Duncan
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, 10 January, = 2007 14:55=20 PM
Subject: RE: Cassette = 4-Track...=20 Req!

one caveat- not all cassette four tracks were = created equal.=20 I'm sure you've got the obvious stuff covered- tape speed,=20 permanently-engaged-noise-reduction, separate track outputs, that sort = of=20 thing.
BUT
I made a load of recordings on a teac/tascam 244 = protastudio=20 that I borrowed.

a few years later, I had very briefly (because = it=20 turned out to be a P.o.C.) a little vestax portastudio, & tried to = play=20 some of these tapes back.
the even-numbered tracks were = out-of-phase with=20 the odd-numbered tracks.

when I replaced the P.o.C with a = fostex 160,=20 everything was alright again.

so.... just something to watch = out=20 for.

d.

------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01C734C9.41572710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 15:19:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B1853BEFC; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A50415.1010400@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:19:49 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cassette 4-Track... Req! References: <20070109181202.87291.qmail@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000701c73461$f79ca9e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <45A48A0B.1030504@mhorse.com> <00e701c734c5$f668e660$0207a8c0@eluk1> In-Reply-To: <00e701c734c5$f668e660$0207a8c0@eluk1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9OuBiB.A.seD.XQQpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Hmm...that makes it a little difficult, as there aren't many cassette four-tracks still being manufactured. Tascam (my favorite) makes three, but only the entry-level MFP01 and 02 mark II operate at regular speed. They might work for you, but neither has EQ, effects loops, etc. Fostex makes the X-12 which is regular speed, but I don't really recommend their stuff, it's very cheaply made. I'm pretty sure Yamaha and Marantz have stopped production of these machines altogether, but you might still be able to find a few dealers and grab a Yamaha MT4x which is a good box. best of luck, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Thanks so far guys. I'd really like to get something that's not a > used piece of equipment, if only for peace of mind. I should have > mentioned that my masters weren't done at 3-3/4 ips as for instance > the Tascam 414 MKII offers up... > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, 10 January, 2007 06:39 AM > Subject: Re: Cassette 4-Track... Req! > > >> Heh heh heh...do I ever, it's my main looping machine. I love 'em! Go >> with a Tascam, the 424 mark 3 or the 464 are both excellent machines >> with good transports, and you can usually get either for less than >> $100 on Ebay. >> >> I own seven four-tracks, unfortunately five of them are in storage >> and the other two are here with me in south Mexico, or I'd be happy >> to lend you one. Feel free to come on by, tho'. >> >> Oh, and Paul, be careful, the 688's are eight track cassette, not >> four. However, the 644 is a four-track with similar mixing and >> automation capabilities. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> >> >>> Hi folks! >>> >>> Remember 4-track cassette recorders? >>> >>> I've got to get ahold of a cassette 4-track to remaster some old >>> tapes to high res data files. Having looked at the few that seem to >>> be out there I didn't get the impression that the Tascam or Fostex >>> was really what I wanted, quality-wise. I need a 4-track cassette >>> machine with an excellent tape path, motor etc. - something suitable >>> to work with cassettes, some of which (however carefully and >>> lovingly stored) are circa 1980. (I've got to do something while >>> getting my finger back to snap - and it's coming along well, for >>> those who helped in April) >>> >>> I never used dbx or dolby to do any of these masters, so that's not >>> an issue. I just need something quiet and fine. Your suggestions >>> are greatly appreciated. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 15:33:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0FE23BEF9; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loop List Message-Id: <0C6D28AC-404B-4246-91D0-8BD22A8526E7@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15--990048991 From: Steve Lawson Subject: Very late news - gig tonight in NYC! (Wednesday!) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:33:15 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:33:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-15--990048991 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey loopists, sorry for the late news, but I've got a gig tonight at Mo Pitkins in New York - I'm on at 11pm, it's $10 to get in, and I'll be playing solo and doing a couple of tunes with a fabulous singer. Muchos loopage and solo bass loveliness, www.mopitkins.com see you there! (or at one of the California gigs over the next few weeks - see my MySpace page - I'll post more about these ASAP) Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --Apple-Mail-15--990048991 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hey = loopists,=A0

sorry for the late news, but I've got a gig tonight = at Mo Pitkins in New York - I'm on at 11pm, it's $10 to get in, and I'll = be playing solo and doing a couple of tunes with a fabulous singer. = Muchos loopage and solo bass loveliness,=A0
www.mopitkins.com=A0

see you = there! (or at one of the California gigs over the next few weeks - see = my MySpace page - I'll post more about these ASAP)=A0

www.stevelawson.net - = site
www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - = shop

= --Apple-Mail-15--990048991-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 16:12:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 452273BEDD; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=K+x49DH7bc/hmFgaQ6ztiYV7gThy6xmcDfOkdALD4HLjbze8iU3b/wANe5yEUdGGLbN93xyaHipFoa7aRcll8iH5WFn/EHJ9TtL6fWcI7fq26O4W4aSj4fPteQgEBBK8JFvXtQzgRx4eDIGKXuPZcPthS5F1QenvM+cbzmqkQJ8= Message-ID: <9e0440a60701100812y2ecfe533rc6acc1d48ae04c8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:12:51 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very late news - gig tonight in NYC! (Wednesday!) In-Reply-To: <0C6D28AC-404B-4246-91D0-8BD22A8526E7@steve-lawson.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8209_29064284.1168445571189" References: <0C6D28AC-404B-4246-91D0-8BD22A8526E7@steve-lawson.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:12:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8209_29064284.1168445571189 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Steve welcome to NY tonight - I'm sorry that I can't get out to hear/meet you (too many things in prep for upcoming NAMM trip) but are you heading to NAMM by chance next week in ref to CA? If so I hope to meet you. Again all good things in your gig here. Regards, Jim Goodin http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic On 1/10/07, Steve Lawson wrote: > > Hey loopists, > > > sorry for the late news, but I've got a gig tonight at Mo Pitkins in New > York - I'm on at 11pm, it's $10 to get in, and I'll be playing solo and > doing a couple of tunes with a fabulous singer. Muchos loopage and solo bass > loveliness, > > > www.mopitkins.com > > > see you there! (or at one of the California gigs over the next few weeks - > see my MySpace page - I'll post more about these ASAP) > > > Steve > www.stevelawson.net - site > www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodin.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_8209_29064284.1168445571189 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Steve welcome to NY tonight - I'm sorry that I can't get out to hear/meet you (too many things in prep for upcoming NAMM trip) but are you heading to NAMM by chance next week in ref to CA?  If so I hope to meet you.
 
Again all good things in your gig here.
 
Regards,
 
Jim Goodin


 
On 1/10/07, Steve Lawson <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk> wrote:
Hey loopists, 

 
sorry for the late news, but I've got a gig tonight at Mo Pitkins in New York - I'm on at 11pm, it's $10 to get in, and I'll be playing solo and doing a couple of tunes with a fabulous singer. Muchos loopage and solo bass loveliness, 

 

 
see you there! (or at one of the California gigs over the next few weeks - see my MySpace page - I'll post more about these ASAP) 

 
Steve

 

 



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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodin.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere
Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com
The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

Associates and friends on the web -
Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_8209_29064284.1168445571189-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 16:22:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 916BA3BEE0; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [69.84.126.202] X-Originating-Email: [aaronleese@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aaronleese@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60701100812y2ecfe533rc6acc1d48ae04c8f@mail.gmail.com> From: "aaron leese" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: crossfading loops Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:22:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2007 16:22:17.0769 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F0D9990:01C734D3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Hey All ... I got some loops working with a midi crossfader ... it made me really happy so I made a couple demo videos. Does anyone else do this ?? Look at the "DJ mixer demo" ..... www.flyloops.com/demos.html _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 16:31:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0630C3BEF0; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:31:04 +0000 From: "Fluke" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "Stephen Goodman" Reply-To: "Fluke" Subject: Re: Cassette 4-Track... Req! X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: UebiMiau 2.7.2 X-Original-IP: 82.195.186.220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MSMail-Priority: Medium Importance: Medium Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070110163110.15C2C1453B0@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:31:13 +0000 (UTC) I used a regular good-quality cassette deck to archive my old 4-track tapes. Recorded them to computer in two passes - two tracks at a time. Then used Cooledit to reverse the two that come in backwards and pitch shift them all up an octave. Then reassemble and mix in Cubase. That was soe years ago. I think I've lost both the tapes and the Cubase files since then! Nik --------- Original Message -------- From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Stephen Goodman Subject: Re: Cassette 4-Track... Req! Date: 10/01/07 04:54 > > > I'm sure this is overkill for what you want to do but I also have been planning on getting a 4 track cassette recorder so I can master my 4 track cassettes. I have a box full and will probably be surprised to hear what's on them (I hope surprised as in good). > > I've been pricing the Tascam 688 Midi-studio's on eBay but they're not cheap. $350-$400. Still, it's not a bad price for what they're are (were) if they're running and in excellent condition. > > -- > Paul > ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 18:02:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DF363BEDD; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nuz8G4WoHHtRjHNimu/3JpjUKP+zeaU7B5dpB9wI5S5RsyR7oAfXiYRER6h2Yaa1U2J0bcsIvZ5UqWSUxX/LcwFbKIeGUZtAQ2r6fuef4xhfJv4ooliQ78SIk89kmU8TfIVir1Uq9xpe77NBduyoy9cLgWyWd9HJnT7H+qvocU8= ; Message-ID: <20070110180202.91954.qmail@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rtqAubYVM1n8W8YSI1pDg1UYqL_C7F9v8bbwJmG._3..Y3hGVBUNJjJwilpFjgFBfIH7ZK5Fldcqj1yy.vpBSZhRTqzfMUp53B9gNavZ2..anuQsELvigFJbrARLSMLhdj7F0bjj67c- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:02:01 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) To: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking for effects that sync with midi. My repeater are in sync with my moto-ableton-mac-gear. What cool midi-sync effects are there out there now ? what hardware effects do you use ? best regards Rune F. Norway www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 18:22:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 049D13BEE2; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=DXvwhUNpYHdOt0P8k0xEaP6+HOKPxOeyVmqKeox+OWFsWcSi26ipId/ajXtit+t8; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <14645577.1168453352415.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:22:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da9404ecb0bcd89c5535615f1527b171d19a0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.48 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Rune F.,=20 Take a gander at the Roger Linn Adrenalinn II. Your e-mail popped up while = I was tinkering with mine. Has a bunch of pretty interesting filter/phase/d= elay settings. I programmable. A drum machine and is also constantly sendin= g MIDI clock. Haven;t used the latter feature as much as I wish. However it= is hours of cheeky noisemaking fun. Todd -----Original Message----- >From: rune fagereng >Sent: Jan 10, 2007 11:02 AM >To: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) > >Hi ! > >I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking for >effects that sync with midi. My repeater are in sync >with my moto-ableton-mac-gear. What cool midi-sync >effects are there out there now ?=20 > >what hardware effects do you use ? > >best regards Rune F. Norway=20 > >www.runefagereng.com >Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no >Mob: 917 95 867 > > >=09 >=09 >=09=09 >_________________________________________________________ >Alt i =C3=A9n. F=C3=A5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og >notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 18:22:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48F1A3BEF3; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A52EF8.7020701@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 12:22:48 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Cassette 4-Track... Req! References: <20070110163110.15C2C1453B0@smtp.nildram.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20070110163110.15C2C1453B0@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:22:50 +0000 (UTC) This is off-topic even from our off-topic discussion, but this killed me. A wakeboard by a company called "Cassette", named the "4-track" - with a graphic of a Tascam MFP01. The inclusion of terminology like "deck" and "sliders" make it even more unintentionally funny. Some great sentences in the review, like: "The 4-Track is made out of wood" "the Cassette 4-Track is available in a 42” length" and my favorite, "when standing on the 4-Track just on carpet, I didn’t notice the rails raising my toes and heels as much as I notice it on other concaved decks..." http://www.wakeskating.com/showarticle.php?a=34 Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 18:30:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C33D73BEF4; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070110180202.91954.qmail@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20070110180202.91954.qmail@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <78851A4B-09D0-4842-8874-96E39BA4EBA9@fuse.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: monk Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:30:12 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:30:19 +0000 (UTC) the adrenalinn with the editor is amazing. the mo-fx from electrix is =20= also cool. On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:02 PM, rune fagereng wrote: > Hi ! > > I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking for > effects that sync with midi. My repeater are in sync > with my moto-ableton-mac-gear. What cool midi-sync > effects are there out there now ? > > what hardware effects do you use ? > > best regards Rune F. Norway > > www.runefagereng.com > Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no > Mob: 917 95 867 > > > =09 > =09 > =09 > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i =E9n. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 18:31:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C9463BEF0; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=p8AD1e9RhJvvPy9kuCvE+pKy/ujLxr1AGmE9SRsiOemDh3CrhwesxAIwblk9FYxvipUktFvbENN8/olT9N4tGjTcf4fDh02IlyMC1ZSCqS6J+QQucemFOAVdIODUwyDu0sW0rmHFMdzBIXzRaM2+ZeoyntobROP/LtRB1u7F7ok= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070110180202.91954.qmail@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20070110180202.91954.qmail@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <692A42B4-1F67-482A-A82E-4668BEFD57AB@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:31:48 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:31:54 +0000 (UTC) On 10 jan 2007, at 19.02, rune fagereng wrote: > Hi ! > > I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking for > effects that sync with midi. My repeater are in sync > with my moto-ableton-mac-gear. What cool midi-sync > effects are there out there now ? > > what hardware effects do you use ? > > best regards Rune F. Norway Beat-synced filterbank is cool. I have an analog Akai MFC42 that sounds very cool. See it here: http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html Its LFO's sync to MIDI Clock and you can change the tempo division from a MIDI pedal (like the FCB1010 for example). It has an awesome (in my opinion) distortion. Not the usual lame-ish "musical" guitar distortion but the real sound of "something on the edge of breaking apart". I'm afraid I have no guitar recording with the filterbank but here is how it sounds with a vocal mic: http://www.boysen.se/audio/funny_small_sound.mp3 and here is how it sounds with blues harp and an EDP: http://www.looproom.com/audio/trutorgel.mp3 (and some small vocal sounds) This examples does show off the distortion of the MFC42 that I'm so happy with. There's also a lot of knob twiddling in this piece. Every button on the MFC42 can be controlled by MIDI as well, so you can sweep the filters by pedals while playing guitar with your hands. Oh yes, i forgot - here is a clip were I play guitar through the MFC42, using it like a wha pedal. I patched the FCB1010's expression pedal to the one of the filter cut-off buttons. http://www.looproom.com/audio/ocl/Organisational_Archeology_clip.mp3 The Akai MFC42 was a commercial flop (which is hard for me to believe because I think it's fantastic) so you may still find them very cheap on dark shelves at music stores. I bought mine new for a third of the initial street price. The only bad side I have noticed with my MFC is that it's too big to fit into any of my laptops. ..... ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 18:41:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9C203BEFB; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <11a201c734e6$e26b8c50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, LoopMusic@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival - Call to Musicians Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:41:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_119F_01C734AC.34CA7050" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:41:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_119F_01C734AC.34CA7050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happy New Year Everyone! Can you believe it? Nine months have passed since the first Boise = Experimental Music Festival (BEMF) last year, which is still archived at = www.boisemusicians.com/experimental. Now, get ready for BEMF 2! Last year's festival was a complete success relative to similar = festivals across the country and around the world. It was so well = received, that the word spread to musicians all over the world, who have = subsequently expressed interested in performing at the second annual = version of the festival. This is great news and will certainly break new = ground yet again in placing Boise, Idaho on the world map of = experimental and avant-garde music. So, BEMF 2 will now be an = international event if all goes as planned. BEMF 2 will again be held at Visual Arts Collective (VaC) here in = Boise, April 26 - 28, 2007. VaC has proven to be an excellent venue for = avant-garde art and community gatherings. A special thanks goes to = Anneliessa and Samuel Stimpert, the owners, for supporting the festival = again. Much of the success of last year's festival was due to their = endless support and fabulous venue. BEMF 2 will kickoff Thursday = evening (April 26), continue on Friday evening (April 27), and then = feature all performing musicians on Saturday afternoon (April 28), = continuing until late night. I will share more details at a later date. Because the festival will be open to other musicians around the country = and world, I will be modifying the performance criteria slightly in = terms of the experience, style, and caliber of performing musicians. = Last year there were some performances, though very professional and by = experienced performers, were not an optimal fit within the artistic and = long term vision of the festival (mainly in terms of genre, style, and = approach). This was intentional, because the festival itself was an = experiment, and I was testing the waters for what was possible here in = Boise. Now I know what is possible!=20 BEMF 2 will take it to the next level and feature very prominent and = defining members of the international experimental and avant-garde music = community. To ensure that the festival achieves this level of = representation, I have appointed a review panel to approve and help = decide on the final list of performers for the festival, because = undoubtedly there will be more submissions than there are available = slots. I will accommodate as many as I can. However, I will also have = some performance slots for "emerging experimental artists," to feature = new talent and upcoming artists in the experimental music scene. The = festival now has the potential to feature some of the most innovative, = fascinating, and creative music art in the industry, music that is very = rarely experienced at typical venues open to the public. To get the festival planning started, I am announcing a "Call to = Musicians" for the 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. Please = send this to anyone and everyone who may be interested in performing at = the festival. Performance Submission Process 1) Prepare the following information: a.. Your Name=20 b.. Your act name (if applicable)=20 c.. email and/or phone number=20 d.. Website (if available)=20 e.. A brief description of your music=20 f.. References: a list of other festivals or major performances in = your music history (those that would be more consistent with the = experimental/avant-garde genres)=20 g.. A CD-R or sample mp3s (no more than 6MB of attachments) of your = work, in "LIVE PERFORMANCE" format only, representing what you sound = like at a live performance 2) Send the above info via one of two methods: a.. Email your name, act, email, website, description of your work, = and references to info@krispenhartung.com and upload MP3s = (your_name.mp3) to http://www.box.net/browse#folder4104981 (user name = and password are "BEMF") OR a.. Send all info (printed format) and MP3s (on CD-R) to Krispen = Hartung, 1810 W. State Street #226, Boise, ID 83702 I will be sending additional BEMF 2 updates in the near future, with = more details on the event, call to sponsors and volunteers, etc. I also = plan to finalize the performance schedule no later than March 30. Finally, if you are a myspace cruiser, feel free to join the BEMF = myspace group at: http://groups.myspace.com/bemf Cheers, Kris *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung=20 www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/ www.krispenhartung.com info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 ------=_NextPart_000_119F_01C734AC.34CA7050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Happy New Year Everyone!
 
Can you believe it? Nine months have passed = since the=20 first Boise Experimental Music Festival = (BEMF) last year,=20 which is still archived at www.boisemusicians.co= m/experimental. Now, get ready for BEMF 2!
 
Last year's festival was a complete success = relative to=20 similar festivals across the country and around the world. It was so = well=20 received, that the word spread to musicians all over the world, who have = subsequently expressed interested in performing at the second annual = version of=20 the festival. This is great news and will certainly break new ground yet = again=20 in placing Boise, Idaho on the world map of experimental and = avant-garde=20 music.  So, BEMF 2 will now be an international event if all goes = as=20 planned.
 
BEMF 2 will again be held = at=20 Visual Arts Collective (VaC)  here in Boise, April = 26 -=20 28, 2007.  VaC has proven to be an excellent venue for = avant-garde=20 art and community gatherings. A special thanks goes to Anneliessa and = Samuel=20 Stimpert, the owners, for supporting the festival again. Much of the = success of=20 last year's festival was due to their endless support and fabulous = venue. =20 BEMF 2 will kickoff Thursday evening (April 26), continue on Friday = evening=20 (April 27), and then feature all performing musicians on Saturday = afternoon=20 (April 28), continuing until late night. I will share more details at a = later=20 date.
 
Because the festival will be open to other = musicians=20 around the country and world, I will be modifying the performance = criteria=20 slightly in terms of the experience, style, and caliber of performing=20 musicians.  Last year there were some performances, though=20 very professional and by experienced performers, were not an = optimal=20 fit within the artistic and long term vision of the festival = (mainly=20 in terms of genre, style, and approach). This was intentional, because = the=20 festival itself was an experiment, and I was testing the waters for what = was=20 possible here in Boise.  Now I know what is = possible! 
 
BEMF 2 will take it to the next = level and=20 feature very prominent and defining members of the = international=20 experimental and avant-garde music community. To ensure that the=20 festival achieves this level of representation, I = have appointed a=20 review panel to approve and help decide on the final list of performers = for the=20 festival, because undoubtedly there will be more submissions than there = are=20 available slots.  I will accommodate as many as I can. However, I = will also=20 have some performance slots for "emerging experimental artists," to = feature new=20 talent and upcoming artists in the experimental music scene. The = festival now=20 has the potential to feature some of the most innovative, = fascinating, and=20 creative music art in the industry, music that is very rarely = experienced=20 at typical venues open to the public.
 
To get the festival planning started, I = am=20 announcing a "Call to Musicians" for the 2nd Annual Boise Experimental = Music=20 Festival.  Please send this to anyone and everyone who may be = interested in=20 performing at the festival.
 
Performance Submission=20 Process
 
1) Prepare the following = information:
  • Your Name=20
  • Your act name (if applicable)=20
  • email and/or phone number=20
  • Website (if available)=20
  • A brief description of your music=20
  • References: a list of other festivals or major=20 performances in your music history (those that would be more = consistent with=20 the experimental/avant-garde genres)=20
  • A CD-R or sample mp3s (no more than 6MB of=20 attachments) of your work, in "LIVE PERFORMANCE" format=20 only, representing what you sound like at a live=20 performance
 
2) Send the above info via one of two=20 methods:
  • Email your name, act, email, website, = description of your=20 work, and references to info@krispenhartung.com and upload=20 MP3s (your_name.mp3) to http://www.box.net/brows= e#folder4104981 (user=20 name and password are "BEMF")
OR
  • Send all info (printed format) and MP3s = (on CD-R) to=20 Krispen Hartung, 1810 W. State Street #226, Boise, ID = 83702
 
I will be sending additional BEMF 2 updates in = the near=20 future, with more details on the event, call to sponsors and volunteers, = etc.  I also plan to finalize the performance schedule no later = than March=20 30.
 
Finally, if you are a myspace cruiser, feel free = to join=20 the BEMF myspace group at: http://groups.myspace.com/bemf
 
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
****************************************************************= **********
Krispen=20 Hartung
www.boisemusicians.c= om/experimental/
www.krispenhartung.com
info@krispenhartung.com = /=20 1.208.724.5603
------=_NextPart_000_119F_01C734AC.34CA7050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 19:45:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73A253BEE7; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <11a201c734e6$e26b8c50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <11a201c734e6$e26b8c50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23--974899279 Message-Id: <35295068-4BCF-4489-AB91-23B65C34312E@fuse.net> From: monk Subject: Re: 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival - Call to Musicians Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:45:45 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:45:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-23--974899279 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed is this only for solo performers or are ensembles welcomed as well? merci. On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > potential to feature some of the most innovative, fascinating, and > creative music art in the industry, music that is very rarely > experienced at typical venues open to --Apple-Mail-23--974899279 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 is this only for solo performers = or are ensembles welcomed as well?



merci.




On Jan 10, = 2007, at 1:41 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

potential to feature some of the most innovative, = fascinating,=A0and creative music art in the industry, music=A0that is = very rarely experienced at typical venues open to =

= --Apple-Mail-23--974899279-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 19:55:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCC523BEE9; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A544C2.1060000@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:55:46 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Cassette 4-Track... Req! References: <20070110163110.15C2C1453B0@smtp.nildram.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20070110163110.15C2C1453B0@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:55:48 +0000 (UTC) That's a brilliant solution, I have to say. I imagine almost any editor could do the simple assembly after the import. Sounds like in Stephen's case the pitchshifting wouldn't even be needed. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > I used a regular good-quality cassette deck to archive my old 4-track tapes. > Recorded them to computer in two passes - two tracks at a time. Then used > Cooledit to reverse the two that come in backwards and pitch shift them all > up an octave. Then reassemble and mix in Cubase. That was soe years ago. I > think I've lost both the tapes and the Cubase files since then! > > Nik From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 19:57:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D129A3BEF7; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <119344763.1168459028417.JavaMail.root@fepweb10> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:57:08 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival - Call to Musicians Cc: Krispen Hartung MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:57:07 -0500 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi there Kris, I saw your post and just thought I'd remind you that IAM still thinking abo= ut your previous invite to perform at BEMF again. I just can't confirm or commit just yet.=20 Sorry. I really WANT to. But, I have so many things happening to me in life just now that there is l= ittle time to even think of music. It's sad to say, but I haven't played in months. And, I only want to come and perform if I know I can aquit myself respectab= ly.=20 If I came right now (as "cold" as my "chops" are) I would only embarrass my= self. I've had enough of situations like that . . . too many in fact. Anyway, please continue to hold a space for me 'til I can decide. tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Krispen Hartung wrote:=20 > Happy New Year Everyone! >=20 > Can you believe it? Nine months have passed since the first Boise Experim= ental Music Festival (BEMF) last year, which is still archived at www.boise= musicians.com/experimental. Now, get ready for BEMF 2! >=20 > Last year's festival was a complete success relative to similar festivals= across the country and around the world. It was so well received, that the= word spread to musicians all over the world, who have subsequently express= ed interested in performing at the second annual version of the festival. T= his is great news and will certainly break new ground yet again in placing = Boise, Idaho on the world map of experimental and avant-garde music. So, B= EMF 2 will now be an international event if all goes as planned. >=20 > BEMF 2 will again be held at Visual Arts Collective (VaC) here in Boise,= April 26 - 28, 2007. VaC has proven to be an excellent venue for avant-ga= rde art and community gatherings. A special thanks goes to Anneliessa and S= amuel Stimpert, the owners, for supporting the festival again. Much of the = success of last year's festival was due to their endless support and fabulo= us venue. BEMF 2 will kickoff Thursday evening (April 26), continue on Fri= day evening (April 27), and then feature all performing musicians on Saturd= ay afternoon (April 28), continuing until late night. I will share more det= ails at a later date. >=20 > Because the festival will be open to other musicians around the country a= nd world, I will be modifying the performance criteria slightly in terms of= the experience, style, and caliber of performing musicians. Last year the= re were some performances, though very professional and by experienced perf= ormers, were not an optimal fit within the artistic and long term vision of= the festival (mainly in terms of genre, style, and approach). This was int= entional, because the festival itself was an experiment, and I was testing = the waters for what was possible here in Boise. Now I know what is possibl= e!=20 >=20 > BEMF 2 will take it to the next level and feature very prominent and defi= ning members of the international experimental and avant-garde music commun= ity. To ensure that the festival achieves this level of representation, I h= ave appointed a review panel to approve and help decide on the final list o= f performers for the festival, because undoubtedly there will be more submi= ssions than there are available slots. I will accommodate as many as I can= . However, I will also have some performance slots for "emerging experiment= al artists," to feature new talent and upcoming artists in the experimental= music scene. The festival now has the potential to feature some of the mos= t innovative, fascinating, and creative music art in the industry, music th= at is very rarely experienced at typical venues open to the public. >=20 > To get the festival planning started, I am announcing a "Call to Musician= s" for the 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. Please send this = to anyone and everyone who may be interested in performing at the festival. >=20 > Performance Submission Process >=20 > 1) Prepare the following information: > a.. Your Name=20 > b.. Your act name (if applicable)=20 > c.. email and/or phone number=20 > d.. Website (if available)=20 > e.. A brief description of your music=20 > f.. References: a list of other festivals or major performances in your= music history (those that would be more consistent with the experimental/a= vant-garde genres)=20 > g.. A CD-R or sample mp3s (no more than 6MB of attachments) of your wor= k, in "LIVE PERFORMANCE" format only, representing what you sound like at a= live performance >=20 > 2) Send the above info via one of two methods: > a.. Email your name, act, email, website, description of your work, and= references to info@krispenhartung.com and upload MP3s (your_name.mp3) to h= ttp://www.box.net/browse#folder4104981 (user name and password are "BEMF") > OR > a.. Send all info (printed format) and MP3s (on CD-R) to Krispen Hartun= g, 1810 W. State Street #226, Boise, ID 83702 >=20 > I will be sending additional BEMF 2 updates in the near future, with more= details on the event, call to sponsors and volunteers, etc. I also plan t= o finalize the performance schedule no later than March 30. >=20 > Finally, if you are a myspace cruiser, feel free to join the BEMF myspace= group at: http://groups.myspace.com/bemf >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Kris >=20 > *************************************************************************= * > Krispen Hartung=20 > www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/ > www.krispenhartung.com > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 20:08:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6D643BEF6; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <121401c734f3$11c26bc0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <11a201c734e6$e26b8c50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <35295068-4BCF-4489-AB91-23B65C34312E@fuse.net> Subject: Re: 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival - Call to Musicians Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:08:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1211_01C734B8.64647340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <2RnkpC.A.NuE.2eUpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:08:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1211_01C734B8.64647340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Enembles are welcome, provided they can setup in 20 min. An 18 piece = experimental band might have a problem fitting on the stage.....though = we did have an 8 piece string and horn ensemble play "Crossings" on the = floor in front of the stage last year. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: monk=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival - Call to = Musicians is this only for solo performers or are ensembles welcomed as well? merci. On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: potential to feature some of the most innovative, fascinating, and = creative music art in the industry, music that is very rarely = experienced at typical venues open to=20 ------=_NextPart_000_1211_01C734B8.64647340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Enembles are welcome, provided they can = setup in 20=20 min. An 18 piece experimental band might have a problem fitting on the=20 stage.....though we did have an 8 piece string and horn ensemble play=20 "Crossings" on the floor in front of the stage last = year.

Kris
 
 
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is this only for solo performers or are ensembles = welcomed as=20 well?



merci.




On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:
potential=20 to feature some of the most innovative, fascinating, and = creative music=20 art in the industry, music that is very rarely experienced at = typical=20 venues open to=20

------=_NextPart_000_1211_01C734B8.64647340-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 20:58:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44F1C3BEF4; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:58:53 -0700 Message-Id: <200701102058.l0AKwr0w015864@minds-eye.org> X-Authentication-Warning: minds-eye.org: minds-eye set sender to kevin@minds-eye.org using -f From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: kevin@minds-eye.org Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 137.150.33.94 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:58:55 +0000 (UTC) > Hi ! > > I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking for > effects that sync with midi. My repeater are in sync > with my moto-ableton-mac-gear. What cool midi-sync > effects are there out there now ? > > what hardware effects do you use ? > > best regards Rune F. Norway The Boss VF-1 will also sync many of its effects to incoming midi. I believe its basically a GT-3 in a half rack and is very nice indeed. Many here sing the praises of the box and I would be one as well if I had the time I need to really program the beast. I run it after an Adrenalinn II for even more synced madness for what that's worth. Kevin Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 21:56:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6255B3BEEC; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L2Sd2Y9fXh1Qp4y/8Xf3XtZ87UNYQJr13e2B7SzhTg0lDU1JBEltw2kR0QwRzmgqVosREbkeLe/l5ZVtRMkgv02o+oTYGtTjdX4SpRtXGc7yhWSJg4S2ETKiTCwQ6xKZebevyQMSbYUCVYp1w6S37XLj5JeZiUbXEAaDmk/dkQY= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:56:18 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) In-Reply-To: <200701102058.l0AKwr0w015864@minds-eye.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200701102058.l0AKwr0w015864@minds-eye.org> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:56:20 +0000 (UTC) I'd agree with the Adrenalinn. Very interesting little box. I have a Roland RSP-550 that responds to MIDI aftertouch, etc commands to change effect params. I haven't tried anything yet, I have too many toys to learn! The Alesis ModFX will respond to beat sync, but that's not quite the same. Tony > > Hi ! > > > > I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking for > > effects that sync with midi. My repeater are in sync > > with my moto-ableton-mac-gear. What cool midi-sync > > effects are there out there now ? > > > > what hardware effects do you use ? > > > > best regards Rune F. Norway > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 22:31:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FEF63BECF; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ic0/C/ezyFwzZVAjEFUKIS2jnshSvNR2dZpEUZNHdf23pH2yFgrWEjoczTLC+ai09DdBV/HhJXjW4/s5XoeRt8AOS3g0Y8QPZA9pEy6OUj8RkQ1EPUCakANo4mMfYi4e6TaNCsoizJzDZMKJ5EW8mbU4/YQMKrv3PWyXU6Rfir4=; X-YMail-OSG: 9hED3.IVM1mo4Lo7jDOxM5VUOU9.AU2RE12CjWWLdCpDdUkYGIqHz2UHcP_gp9k_2dUfnRqtJpiexFW6lGcOVQ63RCFNmEpe0eAS9jkOFTOv_WzaQ5vuahfmwTZQMfwxoIreHaQ0EqBWIq0- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:31:54 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <78851A4B-09D0-4842-8874-96E39BA4EBA9@fuse.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <325198.6470.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0UYu7B.A.b4B.blWpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:31:56 +0000 (UTC) In the real world I can go on and on about the Boss VF-1. So good. Cheap. In the virtual world I love... CamelPhat CamelSpace http://www.filterscape.com/ http://www.u-he.com/mfm/mfm01.html ohmboyz tunguska vMinion NI's Electronic Instruments 2 The list is way too long... Mark --- monk wrote: > the adrenalinn with the editor is amazing. the mo-fx > from electrix is > also cool. > > > > On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:02 PM, rune fagereng wrote: > > > Hi ! > > > > I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking > for > > effects that sync with midi. My repeater are in > sync > > with my moto-ableton-mac-gear. What cool midi-sync > > effects are there out there now ? > > > > what hardware effects do you use ? > > > > best regards Rune F. Norway > > > > www.runefagereng.com > > Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no > > Mob: 917 95 867 > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, > kalender og > > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 23:01:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 714D53BEDC; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <014201c7350b$38c55f80$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: References: <692A42B4-1F67-482A-A82E-4668BEFD57AB@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist)>Akai MFC42 ?? Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:01:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:01:54 +0000 (UTC) This machine looks very interesting Per, never seen it before, but i love weird things that didnt catch on... ha ha! Rune, this could be compared to the Filter Factory I guess, which I had a lot of fun with for a while but am not using so much these days... 2000 kr and its yours, and just down the road too!!!! The MOFX (already mentioned is very cool too, I use that alot, both for the ubiquitous synched delays AND for chopping up things with the synched tremlo section. What looper are you using... oh yeah Repeater..., then you are looking at midi synch, but I have gone "old skool" and now mostly use DIY modular synth modules that you can synch from a midi > CV converter and then you really in for a bumpy ride of dodgy cables and hissy mis-matched levels but you get a huge backbreaking rack with lots of flashing lights and I love it!!! With a Lot of twisting my arm I might also get rid of my Vortex, which has been modded to synch to an edp, or click track, but wait.... 15 mins later... no still want it!! ha ha never use it, but still want it, What IS that??? mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) > On 10 jan 2007, at 19.02, rune fagereng wrote: > >> Hi ! >> >> I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking for >> effects that sync with midi. My repeater are in sync >> with my moto-ableton-mac-gear. What cool midi-sync >> effects are there out there now ? >> >> what hardware effects do you use ? >> >> best regards Rune F. Norway > > > Beat-synced filterbank is cool. I have an analog Akai MFC42 that sounds > very cool. See it here: > http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html > > Its LFO's sync to MIDI Clock and you can change the tempo division from a > MIDI pedal (like the FCB1010 for example). It has an awesome (in my > opinion) distortion. Not the usual lame-ish "musical" guitar distortion > but the real sound of "something on the edge of breaking apart". > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5871 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 23:46:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3EB23BEE1; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <13b901c73511$7f2a8e40$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Y2K6 MP3s Update #11 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:46:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_13B6_01C734D6.D1619EF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <4hEWWD.A.BlE.CrXpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:46:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_13B6_01C734D6.D1619EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Below are the newest additions to the Y2K6 MP3 page: = http://www.y2k6loopfest.com/mp3.html=20 I have not posted the following, for reasons I have indicated below: a.. Daniel Robbins (bass) - Available, but still have not heard back = from him b.. Ute Bohn (vocal) - Available, but have not heard back from her c.. Barry Cleveland (guitar) - amp not miced...no strong signal to the = board, but we may have a good recording from Carl Weingarten=20 d.. Robert Edgar / Roger Winkleman - Almost finished....and will send = to them shortly e.. Larry the O f.. Dark Muse (vocal) - she is sending her own MP3s soon g.. Gary Regina - Available, but have not heard back from him Daniel Thomas =20 Part I - http://www.box.net/public/static/oh9734phh3.mp3 Part II - http://www.box.net/public/static/jnqtlvc6jz.mp3 Part III - http://www.box.net/public/static/776kf0vut9.mp3 Mark Hamburg http://www.box.net/public/static/18d4pekfp0.mp3 Nihil Communication http://www.box.net/public/static/vpotvv57ib.mp3 Goh Nakamura Part I - http://www.box.net/public/static/cmijyhng18.mp3 Part II - http://www.box.net/public/static/84r96ptg97.mp3 Part III - http://www.box.net/public/static/xnzcqmqajj.mp3 Part IV - http://www.box.net/public/static/rzz0nm9bhj.mp3 Part V - http://www.box.net/public/static/hx6jskf0hk.mp3 John Hanes http://www.box.net/public/static/9k319gm252.mp3 Patrick Cress Part I - http://www.box.net/public/static/psqvfuno0c.mp3 Part II - http://www.box.net/public/static/5691dtdtqe.mp3 Part III - http://www.box.net/public/static/359i8ton50.mp3 Pushing Air http://www.box.net/public/static/s7u5fafbqq.mp3 *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung Performance Calendar: = http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_13B6_01C734D6.D1619EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Below are the newest additions to the = Y2K6 MP3=20 page: http://www.y2k6loopfest.com= /mp3.html=20
 
I have not posted the following, for = reasons I have=20 indicated below:
 
  • Daniel Robbins (bass) - Available, but = still have=20 not heard back from him
  • Ute Bohn (vocal) -  Available, = but have not=20 heard back from her
  • Barry Cleveland (guitar) - amp not = miced...no=20 strong signal to the board, but we may have a good recording from Carl = Weingarten
  • Robert Edgar / Roger Winkleman - = Almost=20 finished....and will send to them shortly
  • Larry the O
  • Dark Muse (vocal) - she is sending her = own MP3s=20 soon
  • Gary Regina -  Available, but have not heard back from = him
 
 
Daniel = Thomas
 
Part I=20 -
http://www.box.net/public/static/oh9734phh3.mp3

Part II - http://www.box.net/public/static/jnqtlvc6jz.mp3
Part III - http://www.box.net/public/static/776kf0vut9.mp3
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Mark = Hamburg
http://www.box.n= et/public/static/18d4pekfp0.mp3
 
Nihil = Communication
http://www.box.net/public/static/vpotvv57ib.mp3
 
Goh = Nakamura
Part I - http://www.box.net/public/static/cmijyhng18.mp3
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Part II - http://www.box.net/public/static/84r96ptg97.mp3
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Part III - http://www.box.net/public/static/xnzcqmqajj.mp3
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Part IV - http://www.box.net/public/static/rzz0nm9bhj.mp3
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Part V - http://www.box.net/public/static/hx6jskf0hk.mp3
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John = Hanes
http://www.box.n= et/public/static/9k319gm252.mp3
 
Patrick = Cress
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Part III - http://www.box.net/public/static/359i8ton50.mp3
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Pushing Air
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Krispen=20 Hartung
www.krispenhartung.com /=20 www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
Performance Calendar:=20 http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung
info@kri= spenhartung.com=20 / 1.208.724.5603
Discography -=20 http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm
CD Baby Discography:=20 http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung
------=_NextPart_000_13B6_01C734D6.D1619EF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 10 23:48:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C8DD3BEE1; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Bob Sellon MidiDowntown LooperPro Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:48:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:48:59 +0000 (UTC) I was looking up Bob Sellon's information on the Lexicon MPX G2 and stumbled upon this, which I haven't seen mentioned on LD yet: http://www.LooperPro.com http://www.mididowntown.com The LooperPro is supposed to turn Lexicon JamMan and Reflex into a looper with these features: (copied from http://www.stecrecords.com/gear/jamman/LooperPro/doc/) * Multiple loops simultaniously with independent mute, level and pan control * Loop functions: Layer, Replace, Delay, Make Room, Destructive Fade, Trigger * Timing references: Audible Click, MIDI Note Click, MIDI Clock In/Out * Built-in slap echo effect * Independent control of loop repeats (number of repeats for each loop) * Indendent loop sizes simulataniously: i.e. a 1 beat loop along side a 12 beat loop * Number of beats for each loop selectable from 1 127 * Automatic fade in/out of main output * Loop Init Modes: fixed size, quantize to beat, quantize to bar, etc.. * Tapped or fixed loop size. * MIDI control using program changes, controllers or SysEx * Complete user remappability of MIDI controls and footswitches * Command macros: allow groups of commands to be triggered by one event * MIDI Re-Mapper for control of other gear in your rack * Learnable control of all parameters from the front panel * much more.. (refer to the Users Guide for additional details) http://www.stecrecords.com/gear/jamman/LooperPro/doc/History.html Look's suspiciously "under construction", though. Anyone heard about this? Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 01:53:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD413BEDE; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007e01c73523$4c32beb0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20070110163110.15C2C1453B0@smtp.nildram.co.uk> <45A544C2.1060000@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: OT Cassette 4-Track... Req! Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:53:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Experience with the pitch shift problem trying to record each side separately proved to be a real pain in the neck, and awfully uncertain in terms of results. I could clearly detect sync problems - and this was with a tape using a marking tone. In addition, since there are close to fifty cassettes to go through to remaster - yes, the world will be subjected to some of it! - I need to do it with a four-track 1-2-3-4 layout, and want to have a better tape transport going for it than a standard cassette deck can provide. I can't take the chance of any of these fellas getting chewed up either. To my credit these tapes are probably the best-stored items I own... :) From: "Daryl Shawn" > That's a brilliant solution, I have to say. I imagine almost any editor > could do the simple assembly after the import. Sounds like in Stephen's > case the pitchshifting wouldn't even be needed. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com >> I used a regular good-quality cassette deck to archive my old 4-track >> tapes. >> Recorded them to computer in two passes - two tracks at a time. Then used >> Cooledit to reverse the two that come in backwards and pitch shift them >> all >> up an octave. Then reassemble and mix in Cubase. That was soe years ago. >> I >> think I've lost both the tapes and the Cubase files since then! >> >> Nik > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 03:31:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C21883BEE2; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <014201c7350b$38c55f80$5a01a8c0@mark> References: <692A42B4-1F67-482A-A82E-4668BEFD57AB@gmail.com> <014201c7350b$38c55f80$5a01a8c0@mark> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-25--946967066 Message-Id: <5DF598F6-ACAE-4843-8FA7-B96A3E523A7A@fuse.net> From: monk Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist)>Akai MFC42 ?? Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:31:17 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:31:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-25--946967066 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed whoa.. tell us about this. On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:01 PM, markfrancombe.com wrote: > my Vortex, which has been modded to synch to an edp, or click track, --Apple-Mail-25--946967066 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII whoa.. tell us about this.


On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:01 PM, markfrancombe.com wrote:

my Vortex, which has been modded to synch to an edp, or click track,


--Apple-Mail-25--946967066-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 04:29:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 044D23BEDF; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <197601c73539$05390760$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Selling Your Music on Myspace Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:28:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_196F_01C734FE.505BA7B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:29:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_196F_01C734FE.505BA7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All you myspaceers get this? Below. I just signed up for kicks. They start charing you a $30 a year fee = after the first year, but I'll see how it goes until then....may not be = a bad idea given the millions of myspace users. Kris ****************************** Hey MySpace artists,=20 Music has always been at the heart of the MySpace community. As an = artist, you have a place to connect directly with music lovers and build = a fan base. Now, through our partnership with SNOCAP, you can sell = digital downloads right on your MySpace page. This is something we've = wanted to bring to you for a long time, and now it's here!=20 It's really simple. Just click the "Create Your MySpace Music Store" = link on your Home page to register with SNOCAP (or click here), upload = your music, and set your price. Your store will be automatically created = on your MySpace profile right underneath the MySpace player, and a new = "Manage Music Store" link will appear on your home page which lets you = edit your songs or change the price. Once you've created your store your = fans will be able to purchase your tracks right off your profile and = even post your store on their own profiles, and you'll get paid on a = monthly basis. Click The Format=20 to check it out.=20 You don't need to wait to have a CD's worth of music to sell. Record = something tonight and make it available immediately. Or upload a few = tracks from the soundboard recording of your last show. A MySpace/SNOCAP = MyStore puts the power of distribution in your hands. And best of all, = it doesn't limit any of your choices. You can still stream up to 4 = tracks for free from the MySpace player on your page. You keep all the = rights to your music. And this isn't exclusive - you can put a = MySpace/SNOCAP MyStore on your MySpace page and paste the store anywhere = else on the web you use for promotion; plus you can also sell through an = aggregator or any other digital retailer you have access to.=20 You already use MySpace to market & promote - now you can sell your = songs!=20 Tom=20 *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung / Improvisational & Jazz Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung Performance Calendar: = http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_196F_01C734FE.505BA7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All you myspaceers get this? = Below.
 
I just signed up for kicks. They start = charing you=20 a $30 a year fee after the first year, but I'll see how it goes = until=20 then....may not be a bad idea given the millions of myspace = users.
 
Kris
 
 
******************************
 
Hey MySpace artists,

Music has always been at the heart of = the=20 MySpace community. As an artist, you have a place to connect directly = with music=20 lovers and build a fan base. Now, through our partnership with SNOCAP, = you can=20 sell digital downloads right on your MySpace page. This is something = we=92ve=20 wanted to bring to you for a long time, and now it=92s here! =

It=92s really=20 simple. Just click the =93Create Your MySpace Music Store=94 link on = your Home page=20 to register with SNOCAP (or click here),=20 upload your music, and set your price. Your store will be automatically = created=20 on your MySpace profile right underneath the MySpace player, and a new = =93Manage=20 Music Store=94 link will appear on your home page which lets you edit = your songs=20 or change the price. Once you=92ve created your store your fans will be = able to=20 purchase your tracks right off your profile and even post your store on = their=20 own profiles, and you=92ll get paid on a monthly basis. Click The Format
to check it = out.=20

You don=92t need to wait to have a CD=92s worth of music to = sell. Record=20 something tonight and make it available immediately. Or upload a few = tracks from=20 the soundboard recording of your last show. A MySpace/SNOCAP MyStore = puts the=20 power of distribution in your hands. And best of all, it doesn=92t limit = any of=20 your choices. You can still stream up to 4 tracks for free from the = MySpace=20 player on your page. You keep all the rights to your music. And this = isn=92t=20 exclusive =96 you can put a MySpace/SNOCAP MyStore on your MySpace page = and paste=20 the store anywhere else on the web you use for promotion; plus you can = also sell=20 through an aggregator or any other digital retailer you have access to.=20

You already use MySpace to market & promote =96 now you can = sell your=20 songs!

Tom

****************************************************************= **********
Krispen=20 Hartung / Improvisational & Jazz Guitar
www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhar= tung
Performance=20 Calendar: ht= tp://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung
info@krispenhartung.com /=20 1.208.724.5603
Discography - http://www.krispenha= rtung.com/catalogue.htm
CD=20 Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung=20
------=_NextPart_000_196F_01C734FE.505BA7B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 04:39:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B3C43BEE9; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <197601c73539$05390760$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <197601c73539$05390760$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--942859020 Message-Id: <66E6CACF-19BC-447D-9A5E-213EEB69A0F7@finleysound.com> From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: Selling Your Music on Myspace Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:39:45 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: finleysound@fastermac.net X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 54, First 55, in=1, out=0, spam=0 ip=66.248.89.66 X-Originating-IP: 66.248.89.66 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:39:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--942859020 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hmm...but I HATE myspace! Dang it! I do like the idea of being able to sell single tracks before you =20 have an albums worth of material. Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:28 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > All you myspaceers get this? Below. > > I just signed up for kicks. They start charing you a $30 a year fee =20= > after the first year, but I'll see how it goes until then....may =20 > not be a bad idea given the millions of myspace users. > > Kris > > > ****************************** > > Hey MySpace artists, > > Music has always been at the heart of the MySpace community. As an =20 > artist, you have a place to connect directly with music lovers and =20 > build a fan base. Now, through our partnership with SNOCAP, you can =20= > sell digital downloads right on your MySpace page. This is =20 > something we=92ve wanted to bring to you for a long time, and now =20 > it=92s here! > > It=92s really simple. Just click the =93Create Your MySpace Music =20 > Store=94 link on your Home page to register with SNOCAP (or click =20 > here), upload your music, and set your price. Your store will be =20 > automatically created on your MySpace profile right underneath the =20 > MySpace player, and a new =93Manage Music Store=94 link will appear on = =20 > your home page which lets you edit your songs or change the price. =20 > Once you=92ve created your store your fans will be able to purchase =20= > your tracks right off your profile and even post your store on =20 > their own profiles, and you=92ll get paid on a monthly basis. Click =20= > The Format > to check it out. > > You don=92t need to wait to have a CD=92s worth of music to sell. =20 > Record something tonight and make it available immediately. Or =20 > upload a few tracks from the soundboard recording of your last =20 > show. A MySpace/SNOCAP MyStore puts the power of distribution in =20 > your hands. And best of all, it doesn=92t limit any of your choices. =20= > You can still stream up to 4 tracks for free from the MySpace =20 > player on your page. You keep all the rights to your music. And =20 > this isn=92t exclusive =96 you can put a MySpace/SNOCAP MyStore on = your =20 > MySpace page and paste the store anywhere else on the web you use =20 > for promotion; plus you can also sell through an aggregator or any =20 > other digital retailer you have access to. > > You already use MySpace to market & promote =96 now you can sell your =20= > songs! > > Tom > > **********************************************************************=20= > **** > Krispen Hartung / Improvisational & Jazz Guitar > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > Performance Calendar: http://www.musi-cal.com/search?=20 > performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm > CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung > --Apple-Mail-1--942859020 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Hmm...but I HATE myspace!=A0 = Dang it!

I do like = the idea of being able to sell single tracks before you have an albums = worth of material.

Matt

---

King Never

http://www.kingnever.com

=

On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:28 PM, Krispen Hartung = wrote:

All you myspaceers get = this? Below.
=A0
=A0
=A0
=A0
Hey MySpace artists,=A0

Music has always been = at the heart of the MySpace community. As an artist, you have a place to = connect directly with music lovers and build a fan base. Now, through = our partnership with SNOCAP, you can sell digital downloads right on = your MySpace page. This is something we=92ve wanted to bring to you for = a long time, and now it=92s here!=A0

It=92s really simple. = Just click the =93Create Your MySpace Music Store=94 link on your Home = page to register with SNOCAP (or click=A0here), upload = your music, and set your price. Your store will be automatically created = on your MySpace profile right underneath the MySpace player, and a new = =93Manage Music Store=94 link will appear on your home page which lets = you edit your songs or change the price. Once you=92ve created your = store your fans will be able to purchase your tracks right off your = profile and even post your store on their own profiles, and you=92ll get = paid on a monthly basis. Click=A0The Format=A0
to check it out.=A0

You don=92t need to = wait to have a CD=92s worth of music to sell. Record something tonight = and make it available immediately. Or upload a few tracks from the = soundboard recording of your last show. A MySpace/SNOCAP MyStore puts = the power of distribution in your hands. And best of all, it doesn=92t = limit any of your choices. You can still stream up to 4 tracks for free = from the MySpace player on your page. You keep all the rights to your = music. And this isn=92t exclusive =96 you can put a MySpace/SNOCAP = MyStore on your MySpace page and paste the store anywhere else on the = web you use for promotion; plus you can also sell through an aggregator = or any other digital retailer you have access to.=A0

You already use = MySpace to market & promote =96 now you can sell your songs!=A0

Tom=A0


= --Apple-Mail-1--942859020-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 05:42:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F32D3BEE8; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:42:58 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: question for a friend In-reply-to: <8550469.1168312779548.JavaMail.root@m11> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <45A5CE62.9000809@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <49794.69.59.207.172.1168306906.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <8550469.1168312779548.JavaMail.root@m11> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Richard Sales wrote: > So he wants to play his tuba live ... And here I thought that Tom Heasley was one of a kind... Ambient tuba!!! Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 05:50:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E46A3BEE0; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:50:20 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Selling Your Music on Myspace In-reply-to: <30989826.1168490553551.JavaMail.root@m11> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <45A5D01C.9020908@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <197601c73539$05390760$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <30989826.1168490553551.JavaMail.root@m11> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Matthew F. McCabe wrote: > Hmm...but I HATE myspace! Dang it! At least when you upload a song on MySpace, it actually uploads. I just joined Bebo and for a few days, each time I tried to upload a song, the error message said that I was not authorized... for my own profile!!! Today the error message said that I must upload an MP3 that ends in mp3. montage.mp3 ... Well, DUH! Sheesh!!! Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 05:55:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD53A3BEF5; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <19f801c73545$14446270$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Selling Your Music on Myspace Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:55:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_19F5_01C7350A.67098250" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:55:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_19F5_01C7350A.67098250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Too bad about that 15 minute limitation for songs, however. I guess I = won't be selling my Y2K# sets. K- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Selling Your Music on Myspace All you myspaceers get this? Below. I just signed up for kicks. They start charing you a $30 a year fee = after the first year, but I'll see how it goes until then....may not be = a bad idea given the millions of myspace users. Kris ****************************** Hey MySpace artists,=20 Music has always been at the heart of the MySpace community. As an = artist, you have a place to connect directly with music lovers and build = a fan base. Now, through our partnership with SNOCAP, you can sell = digital downloads right on your MySpace page. This is something we've = wanted to bring to you for a long time, and now it's here!=20 It's really simple. Just click the "Create Your MySpace Music Store" = link on your Home page to register with SNOCAP (or click here), upload = your music, and set your price. Your store will be automatically created = on your MySpace profile right underneath the MySpace player, and a new = "Manage Music Store" link will appear on your home page which lets you = edit your songs or change the price. Once you've created your store your = fans will be able to purchase your tracks right off your profile and = even post your store on their own profiles, and you'll get paid on a = monthly basis. Click The Format=20 to check it out.=20 You don't need to wait to have a CD's worth of music to sell. Record = something tonight and make it available immediately. Or upload a few = tracks from the soundboard recording of your last show. A MySpace/SNOCAP = MyStore puts the power of distribution in your hands. And best of all, = it doesn't limit any of your choices. You can still stream up to 4 = tracks for free from the MySpace player on your page. You keep all the = rights to your music. And this isn't exclusive - you can put a = MySpace/SNOCAP MyStore on your MySpace page and paste the store anywhere = else on the web you use for promotion; plus you can also sell through an = aggregator or any other digital retailer you have access to.=20 You already use MySpace to market & promote - now you can sell your = songs!=20 Tom=20 = *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung / Improvisational & Jazz Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung Performance Calendar: = http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_19F5_01C7350A.67098250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Too bad about that 15 minute limitation = for songs,=20 however.  I guess I won't be selling my Y2K# sets.
 
K-
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, = 2007 9:28=20 PM
Subject: Selling Your Music on=20 Myspace

All you myspaceers get this? = Below.
 
I just signed up for kicks. They = start charing=20 you a $30 a year fee after the first year, but I'll see how it = goes until=20 then....may not be a bad idea given the millions of myspace=20 users.
 
Kris
 
 
******************************
 
Hey MySpace artists,

Music has always been at the heart = of the=20 MySpace community. As an artist, you have a place to connect directly = with=20 music lovers and build a fan base. Now, through our partnership with = SNOCAP,=20 you can sell digital downloads right on your MySpace page. This is = something=20 we=92ve wanted to bring to you for a long time, and now it=92s here! =

It=92s=20 really simple. Just click the =93Create Your MySpace Music Store=94 = link on your=20 Home page to register with SNOCAP (or click here),=20 upload your music, and set your price. Your store will be = automatically=20 created on your MySpace profile right underneath the MySpace player, = and a new=20 =93Manage Music Store=94 link will appear on your home page which lets = you edit=20 your songs or change the price. Once you=92ve created your store your = fans will=20 be able to purchase your tracks right off your profile and even post = your=20 store on their own profiles, and you=92ll get paid on a monthly basis. = Click The Format
to check it = out.=20

You don=92t need to wait to have a CD=92s worth of music to = sell. Record=20 something tonight and make it available immediately. Or upload a few = tracks=20 from the soundboard recording of your last show. A MySpace/SNOCAP = MyStore puts=20 the power of distribution in your hands. And best of all, it doesn=92t = limit any=20 of your choices. You can still stream up to 4 tracks for free from the = MySpace=20 player on your page. You keep all the rights to your music. And this = isn=92t=20 exclusive =96 you can put a MySpace/SNOCAP MyStore on your MySpace = page and=20 paste the store anywhere else on the web you use for promotion; plus = you can=20 also sell through an aggregator or any other digital retailer you have = access=20 to.

You already use MySpace to market & promote =96 now = you can sell=20 your songs!

Tom

****************************************************************= **********
Krispen=20 Hartung / Improvisational & Jazz Guitar
www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhar= tung
Performance=20 Calendar: ht= tp://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung
info@krispenhartung.com /=20 1.208.724.5603
Discography - http://www.krispenha= rtung.com/catalogue.htm
CD=20 Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung=20
------=_NextPart_000_19F5_01C7350A.67098250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 08:38:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A98163BEE1; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, "Kevin Cheli-Colando" Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:38:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <45A5F776.28838.FA3C8@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200701102058.l0AKwr0w015864@minds-eye.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:38:58 +0000 (UTC) > > I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking for > > effects that sync with midi. I picked this up for a measly =A328 at a local store (I don't quite think they knew what it was!) http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct99/articles/redsound.htm It's quickly become an indispensible part of my rig - I feed my (rack) jamman into it. It's designed to take the beat either from midi or to analyse the incoming signal. Since my loops are generally smooth, I need to tap in whatever beat I want. There is a lot of flexibility in it and plenty of spacial effects to widen a mono jamman loop. They are not made any more, but the company is still going. http://www.redsound.com/ There's a similar model (sadly with less knobs) on ebay item 290068858967 All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 08:51:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FE6A3BEE2; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAALuJpUXUSnIwh2dsb2JhbACNPgEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070111084627.01a5cb20@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:51:33 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Bob Sellon MidiDowntown LooperPro In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-17721ECE Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:51:28 +0000 (UTC) At 23:48 10/01/2007, you wrote: >I was looking up Bob Sellon's information on the Lexicon MPX G2 and >stumbled upon this, which I haven't seen mentioned on LD yet: > >http://www.LooperPro.com >http://www.mididowntown.com > >The LooperPro is supposed to turn Lexicon JamMan and Reflex into a >looper > >http://www.stecrecords.com/gear/jamman/LooperPro/doc/History.html > >Look's suspiciously "under construction", though. Anyone heard about >this? No, I checked Bob's page a about a month ago and there was no mention. At that time there was a load of out of date stuff on the site, which was very disappointing. The "How can I get this software" link isn't there yet, so I think you're right about "under construction". ...but this looks very promising, as it shows that Mr. Sellon has been working on this recently. andybutler (JamMan owner) >Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 08:57:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A3D93BEE1; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAF6LpUXUSnInh2dsb2JhbACNPgEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070111085316.01a5c090@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:57:42 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Sync Vortex to edp was Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist)>Akai MFC42 ?? In-Reply-To: <5DF598F6-ACAE-4843-8FA7-B96A3E523A7A@fuse.net> References: <692A42B4-1F67-482A-A82E-4668BEFD57AB@gmail.com> <014201c7350b$38c55f80$5a01a8c0@mark> <5DF598F6-ACAE-4843-8FA7-B96A3E523A7A@fuse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-17721ECE Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:57:37 +0000 (UTC) At 03:31 11/01/2007, you wrote: >whoa.. tell us about this. > > >On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:01 PM, markfrancombe.com wrote: > >>my Vortex, which has been modded to synch to an edp, or click track, http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm ...but it's not hard sync Good enough to get the echoes in time, but a vortex-loop would drift. ...and probably a bit glitchy andy butler From aw-confirm@e-bay.com Thu Jan 11 09:39:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 721 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:39:09 UTC Received: from mail-1.ptsllc.biz (mail-1.ptsllc.biz [24.120.225.90]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A633BECD for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([86.3.87.224]) by mail-1.ptsllc.biz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:27:13 -0800 Reply-To: From: "eBay Inc." 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As outlined in our User Agreement, eBay will periodically From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 11:27:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D72853BEE1; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:27:13 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45A61F11.9070405@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:27:11 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on EM pioneer Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Angst" on Revisited Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#jan The Vinyl Starter will come from the LP "Chronolyse" by Richard Pinhas on Cobra Records and released in 1976. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and on the internet. THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, January 13 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh All times are EST / GMT-5. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 11:31:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC3663BEEC; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: loopers in Rome: check this out Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:31:01 +0100 Message-ID: <00a801c73573$f958dc50$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc1c4fRqXoSvMmDRKKiwtVdEpvuzAAAEvhQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:31:10 +0000 (UTC) date: 9feb07 city: Rome event: Gazelab-"SGUARDO" Rome Auditorium, Parco della Musica A Stage work conceived by Roberto Masotti Jon Hassell-trumpet, voice Terje Rypdal-guitar, voice Miki N'Doye-kalimba, tamma, m'balax, bongo, voice Jon Balke-keyboard, prepared piano, voice Anja Lechner-violoncello, voice "M2" (Maurizio Martusciello-aka "Martux" and Mario Masullo-aka "Mass")-electronics and sound design Roberto Masotti with DDR / Videoflot-projected imagery Gerardo Lamattina-video elaboration and coordination Lino Greco-live video http://www.jonhassell.com/concerts.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 12:38:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 905D53BEE0; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FxNDBG7sq5Qwvp6KOcZYedFwLyKhJIaNe+mnN8T0gkMIGNc3s1j0+ICCHb/0E341DvOUEXrmYdvR6uvHgbjczPptrsNzlhGzl3bn5oLDF6uR+OhHUEHC2/ql4HtzdANeVSR5MW35KdruZNg8slsSvkfnaXJsy79dmBbi5Be0TF8= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:38:49 -0500 From: "Richard Mechling" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopers in Rome: check this out In-Reply-To: <00a801c73573$f958dc50$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_122184_26117360.1168519129057" References: <00a801c73573$f958dc50$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:38:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_122184_26117360.1168519129057 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for this, Michael What a stunning group and setting... breathtaking ! On 1/11/07, Michael Peters wrote: > > date: 9feb07 > city: Rome > event: Gazelab-"SGUARDO" > > Rome Auditorium, Parco della Musica > > A Stage work conceived by Roberto Masotti > > Jon Hassell-trumpet, voice > Terje Rypdal-guitar, voice > Miki N'Doye-kalimba, tamma, m'balax, bongo, voice > Jon Balke-keyboard, prepared piano, voice > Anja Lechner-violoncello, voice > > "M2" (Maurizio Martusciello-aka "Martux" and > Mario Masullo-aka "Mass")-electronics and sound design > Roberto Masotti with DDR / Videoflot-projected imagery > Gerardo Lamattina-video elaboration and coordination > Lino Greco-live video > > http://www.jonhassell.com/concerts.html > > ------=_Part_122184_26117360.1168519129057 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for this, Michael   What a stunning group and setting... breathtaking !

On 1/11/07, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
date:  9feb07
city:  Rome
event:  Gazelab-"SGUARDO"

Rome Auditorium, Parco della Musica

A Stage work conceived by Roberto Masotti

Jon Hassell-trumpet, voice
Terje Rypdal-guitar, voice
Miki N'Doye-kalimba, tamma, m'balax, bongo, voice
Jon Balke-keyboard, prepared piano, voice
Anja Lechner-violoncello, voice

"M2" (Maurizio Martusciello-aka "Martux" and
Mario Masullo-aka "Mass")-electronics and sound design
Roberto Masotti with DDR / Videoflot-projected imagery
Gerardo Lamattina-video elaboration and coordination
Lino Greco-live video

http://www.jonhassell.com/concerts.html


------=_Part_122184_26117360.1168519129057-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 14:11:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FADB3BEE9; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <022a01c7358a$593457b0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <00a801c73573$f958dc50$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: loopers in Rome: check this out Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:11:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2007 14:11:13.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A1541D0:01C7358A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:11:38 +0000 (UTC) I'll be there. Anyone ? fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: loopers in Rome: check this out > date: 9feb07 > city: Rome > event: Gazelab-"SGUARDO" > > Rome Auditorium, Parco della Musica > > A Stage work conceived by Roberto Masotti > > Jon Hassell-trumpet, voice > Terje Rypdal-guitar, voice > Miki N'Doye-kalimba, tamma, m'balax, bongo, voice > Jon Balke-keyboard, prepared piano, voice > Anja Lechner-violoncello, voice > > "M2" (Maurizio Martusciello-aka "Martux" and > Mario Masullo-aka "Mass")-electronics and sound design > Roberto Masotti with DDR / Videoflot-projected imagery > Gerardo Lamattina-video elaboration and coordination > Lino Greco-live video > > http://www.jonhassell.com/concerts.html > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/622 - Release Date: 10/01/2007 > 14.52 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 14:57:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1C263BEF3; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070111145745.62735.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2Me3NeQaeJl3h9WBi+oNfwhmvCASzUCa2r8LnExfA+S8Ms97n81V+Yz622FJjzEtHE9SmK0nDnSA0UE9tejfUqEYQa0o7EnzIMayWrgyWuqi4WkpFCl/QbjxDWkn6pYYlsJ24l8A5Vj87e94tL5T9Nc4PaFUItlOYqi6rCeHhuo=; X-YMail-OSG: wWysE.4VM1k8ZmOFwGMSljNEr4HHvNynG4n7SRqJsDO85e1pw0UiSl9A3cP_tFXOh1wI.B_VitkAXmIH1x2voJNP8dHY4ICmpJ3mZzQJvAwxhkDTa_QifWNzAm18HF9BLsduHAWckjxhPe4- Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:57:44 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Sync Vortex to edp was Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist)>Akai MFC42 ?? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070111085316.01a5c090@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <9LYi8C.A.yjH.qBlpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:57:46 +0000 (UTC) When i had a vortex I looked into something Kenton makes that converts MIDI clock to the type of switch that the Vortex uses as tap tempo. It was too expensive though but seemed like a good solution. Mark --- a k butler wrote: > At 03:31 11/01/2007, you wrote: > >whoa.. tell us about this. > > > > > >On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:01 PM, markfrancombe.com > wrote: > > > >>my Vortex, which has been modded to synch to an > edp, or click track, > > http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm > > ...but it's not hard sync > Good enough to get the echoes in time, but a > vortex-loop would drift. > > ...and probably a bit glitchy > > andy butler > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 15:31:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E12A03BEF3; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [69.84.126.202] X-Originating-Email: [aaronleese@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aaronleese@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070111145745.62735.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "aaron leese" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: crossfading Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:31:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2007 15:31:32.0796 (UTC) FILETIME=[928557C0:01C73595] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:31:34 +0000 (UTC) I'm not sure if this posted last time, there is almost never NO reponse on this list. I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to crossfading between loop ..... seems like a useful feature to me ..... especially for DJs who use crossfaders ad nauseum. but I don't know if I have really seen it done much before. If your not sure what I mean by crossfading between loops, please check out this demo: www.flyloops.com/drum1.swf Thanks, Aaron _________________________________________________________________ Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series.  Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 15:49:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 047EC3BEF1; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <00a801c73573$f958dc50$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <00a801c73573$f958dc50$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5053c001083883153aff53f60f5495b2@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: loopers in Rome: check this out Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:49:38 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Man o' man! I saw that a few weeks ago posted somewhere. I sure wish I could go. I'd sell my left kidney to finally see Terje perform in person (he never tours the US). Jon Hassell is a favorite too. Please, someone . . . go and give a report. Best regards, Ted Killian On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > date: 9feb07 > city: Rome > event: Gazelab-"SGUARDO" > > Rome Auditorium, Parco della Musica > > A Stage work conceived by Roberto Masotti > > Jon Hassell-trumpet, voice > Terje Rypdal-guitar, voice > Miki N'Doye-kalimba, tamma, m'balax, bongo, voice > Jon Balke-keyboard, prepared piano, voice > Anja Lechner-violoncello, voice > > "M2" (Maurizio Martusciello-aka "Martux" and > Mario Masullo-aka "Mass")-electronics and sound design > Roberto Masotti with DDR / Videoflot-projected imagery > Gerardo Lamattina-video elaboration and coordination > Lino Greco-live video > > http://www.jonhassell.com/concerts.html > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 15:57:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05EF03BEF3; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=COt0WFp6qNrkghpEK+ZzD1QeX02zDN9ePRrO3AHkCKUSuPhPqETm4J8RoX2KxpE/T0AlHLEgysSfJMO+7Fs7ZdOHn0t9nL7NoruZ2YvnUmujZ3f6c3ljgT78HwfiAYe51P2wJhCVG1tBGXJm3yST/r5b1vzLbiI+J/lwfnrnpmg= ; Message-ID: <20070111155700.31543.qmail@web26207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TU9jzsAVM1mW_hFVjs17GmJoRfXrqXREV3w.uZSUELO8C0WVnNN6ziXICPi5uDCHfTO1au56nW2VLx7kWF5vxhLc0MngJEXC5XMgJDNgjqaKSt2i6WploVaw1b7if6IwLJ1I2ZxLEpj7 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:57:00 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Vedr. Re: loopers in Rome: check this out To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5053c001083883153aff53f60f5495b2@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I mailed (just for fun) ECM and asked them to make a dvd of this greate gig. But making dvds are really not their thing - I think. Would be somthing ! Rune F --- tEd ® kiLLiAn skrev: > Man o' man! I saw that a few weeks ago posted > somewhere. > > I sure wish I could go. I'd sell my left kidney to > finally see Terje > perform in person (he never tours the US). > > Jon Hassell is a favorite too. > > Please, someone . . . go and give a report. > > Best regards, > > Ted Killian > > On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > > > date: 9feb07 > > city: Rome > > event: Gazelab-"SGUARDO" > > > > Rome Auditorium, Parco della Musica > > > > A Stage work conceived by Roberto Masotti > > > > Jon Hassell-trumpet, voice > > Terje Rypdal-guitar, voice > > Miki N'Doye-kalimba, tamma, m'balax, bongo, voice > > Jon Balke-keyboard, prepared piano, voice > > Anja Lechner-violoncello, voice > > > > "M2" (Maurizio Martusciello-aka "Martux" and > > Mario Masullo-aka "Mass")-electronics and sound > design > > Roberto Masotti with DDR / Videoflot-projected > imagery > > Gerardo Lamattina-video elaboration and > coordination > > Lino Greco-live video > > > > http://www.jonhassell.com/concerts.html > > > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 16:01:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5BEE3BEF3; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=lCqaL41fDYyi0qD96y2kbuuOLZMssK/cVqGTdxO04+eA1Rc4UgD9UUpwS4edoaqCKTP5lxQagzAu2+uF5b532ynIVUoep7cnt8FRWrnVm+z5SQ0effWuCnoRe8bixnLF8SBRzl6GsqHNtex3PXHrzfmY2gEvNucuLf++GAE3Vcs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: crossfading Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:01:54 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:01:57 +0000 (UTC) On 11 jan 2007, at 16.31, aaron leese wrote: > I'm not sure if this posted last time, there is almost never NO > reponse on this list. > > I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to > crossfading between loop ..... seems like a useful feature to > me ..... especially for DJs who use crossfaders ad nauseum. > but I don't know if I have really seen it done much before. I am! I'm definitely interested in crossfading between loops and I do it quite often in my sets. > If your not sure what I mean by crossfading between loops, please > check out this demo: > www.flyloops.com/drum1.swf Yes, I hear you. The guy on the video seems to use a dj mixer and those do all rely on a global crossfade control fader to morph between two channels, typically carrying a turntable signal each. I guess what you are interested in is the MORPHING quality? I mean, a lot of loopers do "cross switching" all the time, jumping from let's say beat three in loop one to beat there in loop two and eventually back again. But there's no simultaneous fading happening here, no morphing, just a direct switching. Don't know if you're interested in loose feedback on the topic, but since this is a discussion list - here we go... A very simple kind of crossfade between two mono loops is to use the pan knob for a stereo channel; if the stereo channel is played back in mono the pan knob will work just as a crossfading volume contol. Myself I have done a lot of crossfading with an analog filterbank that gives the option to use filter cut-off for to morph from one signal chain into another one (picked up the idea long ago from hearing mixes by ARmand van Helden). For anyone using Ableton Live there is a built-in corssfade function: each track/channel can be given an "A" or "B" suffix to bind them for either side of the crossfade controller. When looping with many looping devices or with a multi channel looper I do crossfades by using the volume faders. In Mobius I have certain scripts (binded to physical MIDI buttons on my Faderfox hand controller) that either Fade In or Fade Out the loop playing on a certain Track/Channel. To set off an automized crossfade I simply press two buttons: FAde Out for the playing loop and Fade IN for the silent loop that I want to take over. I tend to prefer long crossfade times for this because I play instruments at the same time, but also because I find that more musically interesting. To create glitchy stuff (that many DJ's do on a dj mixer/turntables) I rather like to use the direct slice cutting of a loop - inserting chunks of new audio here and there. Speaking about Fade In/Out, the AU looping plug-in Augustus Looper already have built-in support for doing that. The GUI have a button named "Fade" and it fades in if the volume is down and fades out if the volume is up - even better than my scripting fix in Mobius! When running multiple Augstus Loop plug-ins this function gives a crossfade functions. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 16:02:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 091873BEFE; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AMz3BvpjxwZSUOf/a7Z9oXM5ZskqBd7KNCKa/or8xHLJBSh9l0Q2AlwuRBAmlvr41GuDq87gLONkX4g89Q8e66EH4/c0x6scDpuJXYpF6NHXcLVE1DMQHhCufASZiiK77oVt7vd2P8hqljczNb4+qxwXIV2Xry5/74qpwl6v/9g= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:02:13 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: crossfading In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_38624_25467611.1168531333217" References: <20070111145745.62735.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:02:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_38624_25467611.1168531333217 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The frequent discussions here on the importance of controllable feedback in a looper are related to this technique. The ability to have a loop fade away while building a new one is something that many people find desirable and a depressingly small number of recently looping devices support. Myself, I use an EDP. TravisH On 1/11/07, aaron leese wrote: > > > > I'm not sure if this posted last time, there is almost never NO reponse on > this list. > > I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to > crossfading between loop ..... seems like a useful feature to me ..... > especially for DJs who use crossfaders ad nauseum. > but I don't know if I have really seen it done much before. > > If your not sure what I mean by crossfading between loops, please check > out > this demo: > www.flyloops.com/drum1.swf > > Thanks, > Aaron > > _________________________________________________________________ > Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win? > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 > > ------=_Part_38624_25467611.1168531333217 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The frequent discussions here on the importance of controllable feedback in a looper are related to this technique.  The ability to have a loop fade away while building a new one is something that many people find desirable and a depressingly small number of recently looping devices support.

Myself, I use an EDP.

TravisH

On 1/11/07, aaron leese <aaronleese@hotmail.com> wrote:


I'm not sure if this posted last time, there is almost never NO reponse on
this list.

I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to
crossfading between loop ..... seems like a useful feature to me .....
especially for DJs who use crossfaders ad nauseum.
but I don't know if I have really seen it done much before.

If your not sure what I mean by crossfading between loops, please check out
this demo:
www.flyloops.com/drum1.swf

Thanks,
Aaron

_________________________________________________________________
Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win?
http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001


------=_Part_38624_25467611.1168531333217-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 16:31:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C549B3BEF9; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [69.84.126.202] X-Originating-Email: [aaronleese@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aaronleese@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> From: "aaron leese" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: crossfading Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:31:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2007 16:31:30.0548 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2F2BB40:01C7359D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Per - Your always a wealth of information .... Glad to know you can always give me the real deal on any topic loop related. I need to check out Augutus looper, thats one I haven't tried ... and you right, I am interested in being able to control the morph, so to speak. Ableton has the approach I like best, since it is closest to what a DJ does ...... assign a few things to different groups (A, B) and then fade between them - doing that with 5 or 6 of your own generated loops is great fun. On DJs :::: A while back I knew a DJ that used a boomerang, did a real nice job stacking loops and playing techno over it. He was, of course, very annoyed when he realized that the loops weren't actually synced up with the turntables, and try as he might, the two always drifted apart very quickly. I would like to see what DJs are doing nowadays with loops ... anyone know any good examples of that ? >From: Per Boysen >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: crossfading >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:01:54 +0100 > >On 11 jan 2007, at 16.31, aaron leese wrote: > >>I'm not sure if this posted last time, there is almost never NO reponse >>on this list. >> >>I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to >>crossfading between loop ..... seems like a useful feature to me ..... >>especially for DJs who use crossfaders ad nauseum. >>but I don't know if I have really seen it done much before. > >I am! I'm definitely interested in crossfading between loops and I do it >quite often in my sets. > >>If your not sure what I mean by crossfading between loops, please check >>out this demo: >>www.flyloops.com/drum1.swf > >Yes, I hear you. The guy on the video seems to use a dj mixer and those do >all rely on a global crossfade control fader to morph between two >channels, typically carrying a turntable signal each. I guess what you are >interested in is the MORPHING quality? I mean, a lot of loopers do "cross >switching" all the time, jumping from let's say beat three in loop one to >beat there in loop two and eventually back again. But there's no >simultaneous fading happening here, no morphing, just a direct switching. > >Don't know if you're interested in loose feedback on the topic, but since >this is a discussion list - here we go... > >A very simple kind of crossfade between two mono loops is to use the pan >knob for a stereo channel; if the stereo channel is played back in mono >the pan knob will work just as a crossfading volume contol. Myself I have >done a lot of crossfading with an analog filterbank that gives the option >to use filter cut-off for to morph from one signal chain into another one >(picked up the idea long ago from hearing mixes by ARmand van Helden). For >anyone using Ableton Live there is a built-in corssfade function: each >track/channel can be given an "A" or "B" suffix to bind them for either >side of the crossfade controller. When looping with many looping devices >or with a multi channel looper I do crossfades by using the volume faders. >In Mobius I have certain scripts (binded to physical MIDI buttons on my >Faderfox hand controller) that either Fade In or Fade Out the loop playing >on a certain Track/Channel. To set off an automized crossfade I simply >press two buttons: FAde Out for the playing loop and Fade IN for the >silent loop that I want to take over. I tend to prefer long crossfade >times for this because I play instruments at the same time, but also >because I find that more musically interesting. To create glitchy stuff >(that many DJ's do on a dj mixer/turntables) I rather like to use the >direct slice cutting of a loop - inserting chunks of new audio here and >there. Speaking about Fade In/Out, the AU looping plug-in Augustus Looper >already have built-in support for doing that. The GUI have a button named >"Fade" and it fades in if the volume is down and fades out if the volume >is up - even better than my scripting fix in Mobius! When running multiple >Augstus Loop plug-ins this function gives a crossfade functions. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish) >www.looproom.com (international) >http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) >http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 16:35:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 304D03BF04; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Dgtb4cOp1mAdYgcsx6x240ukNXJmZoqyAv+55vuvuTuE+Cp8CgiHynmfqBGZ0lGqCTZb2HIGazMO9MYQuN4BXyCFsXGSMn0xk7WiBxazAPtsFx1HT956eQ5K8vntQLBt1Sfel77imVdYiSZHcTgtkuAeUv5rp7ldlitRpkyiO/k= ; Message-ID: <20070111163532.46335.qmail@web26207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ije_rKUVM1nvMYdPICVzJoi.JJfX24IetP8_k3s_SNS20Li9CQyr4BEMkHhBwoRnXKJJLuhUUBQRE0kar.s7sBFBMHNRprkwjaYstwyRw6Pz7mT3N9eFFvpLqb9YMob4GadszJxYubi8 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:35:32 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: filter factory To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <014201c7350b$38c55f80$5a01a8c0@mark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Regarding filter factory. I am interested in buying it. Can you ship it to me ? RF --- "markfrancombe.com" skrev: > This machine looks very interesting Per, never seen > it before, but i love > weird things that didnt catch on... ha ha! > Rune, this could be compared to the Filter Factory I > guess, which I had a > lot of fun with for a while but am not using so much > these days... 2000 kr > and its yours, and just down the road too!!!! > > The MOFX (already mentioned is very cool too, I use > that alot, both for the > ubiquitous synched delays AND for chopping up things > with the synched tremlo > section. What looper are you using... oh yeah > Repeater..., then you are > looking at midi synch, but I have gone "old skool" > and now mostly use DIY > modular synth modules that you can synch from a midi > > CV converter and then > you really in for a bumpy ride of dodgy cables and > hissy mis-matched levels > but you get a huge backbreaking rack with lots of > flashing lights and I > love it!!! With a Lot of twisting my arm I might > also get rid of my Vortex, > which has been modded to synch to an edp, or click > track, but wait.... 15 > mins later... no still want it!! ha ha never use it, > but still want it, What > IS that??? > > > mark francombe > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes > for www.furthernoise.org > and works at www.transformlearning.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Per Boysen" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:31 PM > Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist) > > > > On 10 jan 2007, at 19.02, rune fagereng wrote: > > > >> Hi ! > >> > >> I want to update my guitar-rig and I am looking > for > >> effects that sync with midi. My repeater are in > sync > >> with my moto-ableton-mac-gear. What cool > midi-sync > >> effects are there out there now ? > >> > >> what hardware effects do you use ? > >> > >> best regards Rune F. Norway > > > > > > Beat-synced filterbank is cool. I have an analog > Akai MFC42 that sounds > > very cool. See it here: > > http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html > > > > Its LFO's sync to MIDI Clock and you can change > the tempo division from a > > MIDI pedal (like the FCB1010 for example). It has > an awesome (in my > > opinion) distortion. Not the usual lame-ish > "musical" guitar distortion > > but the real sound of "something on the edge of > breaking apart". > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for > private users. > It has removed 5871 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their > emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 16:51:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5793C3BEE0; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701111648.l0BGhpW3050444@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: loopers in Rome: check this out Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:47:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-reply-to: <00a801c73573$f958dc50$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Thread-Index: Acc1c4fRqXoSvMmDRKKiwtVdEpvuzAAAEvhQAAsE7CA= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Wow John Hassell and Terje Rypdal, one of my all time favorite guitarists, I wish I could be there. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:31 AM To: Loopers Delight Subject: loopers in Rome: check this out date: 9feb07 city: Rome event: Gazelab-"SGUARDO" Rome Auditorium, Parco della Musica A Stage work conceived by Roberto Masotti Jon Hassell-trumpet, voice Terje Rypdal-guitar, voice Miki N'Doye-kalimba, tamma, m'balax, bongo, voice Jon Balke-keyboard, prepared piano, voice Anja Lechner-violoncello, voice "M2" (Maurizio Martusciello-aka "Martux" and Mario Masullo-aka "Mass")-electronics and sound design Roberto Masotti with DDR / Videoflot-projected imagery Gerardo Lamattina-video elaboration and coordination Lino Greco-live video http://www.jonhassell.com/concerts.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 16:52:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8AA93BEF3; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=oB8Pw8cb1axHwlaehtQWgdWhalBiRjStZQGg2VM3gQaZpQMeIKyskHr071yYjXSB+TYuGg838uk3Ef53j/yYWzpGo+6kNkuufsKjqotN10t47AA2QOLz6NJAyopSsNhJzMM8FzOSmxNpX4HkOL4Yl6E0k+G6m/kIAdONMG9KUew= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5D10FB4C-DC2A-4CA6-ADB0-E8F686DF1FCA@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: crossfading Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:52:46 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:52:50 +0000 (UTC) On 11 jan 2007, at 17.31, aaron leese wrote: > I would like to see what DJs are doing nowadays with loops ... > anyone know any good examples of that ? Hey - why don't you post a thread at the Ableton forum? I bet you would get loads of exciting posts, movie links etc :-) Some DJ's chose to play DJ sets with Live instead of 2 turntables and the mixer and I remember one of those guys once said that the great thing with using a laptop for DJ-ing is that you can fade loops in or out and focus more at reading the floor instead of mastering the beat syncing process (headphone halfway on, bending over the needle looking totally uncool when loosing contact with the audience... kind of). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 17:34:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B547E3BEFE; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 477324392 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C735A6.BF2E015C" Subject: RE: crossfading Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:34:29 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72579861@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: crossfading Thread-Index: Acc1pe/vzE6xRB4ISdeEuWoxVWzHtQ== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2007 17:34:29.0336 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF480580:01C735A6] Resent-Message-ID: <3L-51.A.ocF.nUnpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:34:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C735A6.BF2E015C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>On DJs :::: A while back I knew a DJ that used a boomerang, did a real nice job = stacking=20 loops and playing techno over it. He was, of course, very annoyed when = he=20 realized that the loops weren't actually synced up with the turntables, = and=20 try as he might, the two always drifted apart very quickly. I would like to see what DJs are doing nowadays with loops ... anyone = know=20 any good examples of that ?<< when I bought my first repeater, I took the manual to work & lent it to = at least two DJs that I thought might be interested, nay, intrigued.... = by the possibility of grabbing bits of audio from a deck, looping them, = stretching them, changing key or tempo or both.... well, I tried to sell = the idea. even pointed out that the repeater had it's own phono pre-amp = (though most DJs wouldn't use this because their decks are already = attached to a mixer, so what were electrix thinking exactly?) anyway, the impression I got from these (london, UK) DJs was that such = gadgets as repeaters & kaoss pads & the like were too showy for purists, = & possibly unreliable. disappointing, I thought. even I would love to see someone do a set with = a couple of decks & a looper, & I have always been quite disdainful of = the practice of playing other peoples' records for money..... :-) d. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C735A6.BF2E015C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: crossfading

>>On DJs ::::

A while back I knew a DJ that used a boomerang, did a real nice job = stacking
loops and playing techno over it.  He was, of course, very annoyed = when he
realized that the loops weren't actually synced up with the turntables, = and
try as he might, the two always drifted apart very quickly.

I would like to see what DJs are doing nowadays with loops ... anyone = know
any good examples of that ?<<

when I bought my first repeater, I took the manual to work & lent it = to at least two DJs that I thought might be interested, nay, = intrigued.... by the possibility of grabbing bits of audio from a deck, = looping them, stretching them, changing key or tempo or both.... well, I = tried to sell the idea. even pointed out that the repeater had it's own = phono pre-amp (though most DJs wouldn't use this because their decks are = already attached to a mixer, so what were electrix thinking = exactly?)
anyway, the impression I got from these (london, UK) DJs was that such = gadgets as repeaters & kaoss pads & the like were too showy for = purists, & possibly unreliable.

disappointing, I thought. even I would love to see someone do a set with = a couple of decks & a looper, & I have always been quite = disdainful of the practice of playing other peoples' records for = money..... :-)

d.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C735A6.BF2E015C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 17:36:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BBD83BF05; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=zbmlUFltRiqc9tpOl2TXk4p4VNf41su5rA8ms4uro3m9I7p6OSIPgNVMeZ9B0fjcC8wXLBwJeJXTJ51jkhiWQUYyBYOTOt2+GiwBpImws5xygI1YWFjV+obZGSMr2BxpI/eT06kyIzMizSBOLSy1BanRutU3801/L2fb0ZAeyA8= ; X-YMail-OSG: tfbKenQVM1mm1pq5JDmGDLaH_F7Qgffv1.x9kewx2qniqikkFgCcK3hMD5WNzu69.LPF_kezlTel8j_bNpVDWpFCaNmzg9MmtrB_wxdxjxp6SfISlZx.gBpAxx_3.PA5eISGowfTRy1cMX4- From: "murkie" To: Subject: RE: Bob Sellon MidiDowntown LooperPro Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:36:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070111084627.01a5cb20@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc1Xa8kC8a6WbMbSDCuC5ItU/mz9AASUEUg Message-Id: <20070111173625.E0F703BEFB@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:36:26 +0000 (UTC) email doesn't get answered, either. m.c. -----Original Message----- From: a k butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:52 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bob Sellon MidiDowntown LooperPro At 23:48 10/01/2007, you wrote: >I was looking up Bob Sellon's information on the Lexicon MPX G2 and >stumbled upon this, which I haven't seen mentioned on LD yet: > >http://www.LooperPro.com >http://www.mididowntown.com > >The LooperPro is supposed to turn Lexicon JamMan and Reflex into a >looper > >http://www.stecrecords.com/gear/jamman/LooperPro/doc/History.html > >Look's suspiciously "under construction", though. Anyone heard about >this? No, I checked Bob's page a about a month ago and there was no mention. At that time there was a load of out of date stuff on the site, which was very disappointing. The "How can I get this software" link isn't there yet, so I think you're right about "under construction". ...but this looks very promising, as it shows that Mr. Sellon has been working on this recently. andybutler (JamMan owner) >Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 18:34:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FF263BEF5; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A69143.8040907@imt.net> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:34:27 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: crossfading References: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:34:46 +0000 (UTC) The device I built for Todd Green can allow you to do this in it's latest rendition we're working on. I could mod his original to do it but he didn't see use for it in his performance at the time. The perf. controller I built again, has four channels. THere is a VCA box in the rack that has the jamman units. The control voltages for those come from his pedal board. He has one volume pedal. And a box for the record/erase etc. functions. And a box for selecting/deselecting channels, muting channels and indicating that status, and indicating the current volume of that channel. And there's a global select/deselect button for convenience though he never uses that he said. -Bob Per Boysen wrote: > On 11 jan 2007, at 16.31, aaron leese wrote: > >> I'm not sure if this posted last time, there is almost never NO >> reponse on this list. >> >> I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to >> crossfading between loop ..... seems like a useful feature to me >> ..... especially for DJs who use crossfaders ad nauseum. >> but I don't know if I have really seen it done much before. > > > I am! I'm definitely interested in crossfading between loops and I do > it quite often in my sets. > >> If your not sure what I mean by crossfading between loops, please >> check out this demo: >> www.flyloops.com/drum1.swf > > > Yes, I hear you. The guy on the video seems to use a dj mixer and > those do all rely on a global crossfade control fader to morph > between two channels, typically carrying a turntable signal each. I > guess what you are interested in is the MORPHING quality? I mean, a > lot of loopers do "cross switching" all the time, jumping from let's > say beat three in loop one to beat there in loop two and eventually > back again. But there's no simultaneous fading happening here, no > morphing, just a direct switching. > > Don't know if you're interested in loose feedback on the topic, but > since this is a discussion list - here we go... > > A very simple kind of crossfade between two mono loops is to use the > pan knob for a stereo channel; if the stereo channel is played back > in mono the pan knob will work just as a crossfading volume contol. > Myself I have done a lot of crossfading with an analog filterbank > that gives the option to use filter cut-off for to morph from one > signal chain into another one (picked up the idea long ago from > hearing mixes by ARmand van Helden). For anyone using Ableton Live > there is a built-in corssfade function: each track/channel can be > given an "A" or "B" suffix to bind them for either side of the > crossfade controller. When looping with many looping devices or with > a multi channel looper I do crossfades by using the volume faders. In > Mobius I have certain scripts (binded to physical MIDI buttons on my > Faderfox hand controller) that either Fade In or Fade Out the loop > playing on a certain Track/Channel. To set off an automized crossfade > I simply press two buttons: FAde Out for the playing loop and Fade IN > for the silent loop that I want to take over. I tend to prefer long > crossfade times for this because I play instruments at the same time, > but also because I find that more musically interesting. To create > glitchy stuff (that many DJ's do on a dj mixer/turntables) I rather > like to use the direct slice cutting of a loop - inserting chunks of > new audio here and there. Speaking about Fade In/Out, the AU looping > plug-in Augustus Looper already have built-in support for doing that. > The GUI have a button named "Fade" and it fades in if the volume is > down and fades out if the volume is up - even better than my > scripting fix in Mobius! When running multiple Augstus Loop plug-ins > this function gives a crossfade functions. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 20:08:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F5223BECD; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070111200840.4380.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=v/+vULm8lKo5/ltVxMmzso1A65ZGsCuezr0sNUdmSZMMR4Eq5U1k7tFAeILF0p4wM333tLrJ+RHwAA+0pAd6jxKSyeFpXOsrDyJyS5AnGvUNGJcNSenu+J9dKFHZmZSMSY3BXCe0tYm/UJW7Yvwdu6RqYc5qBr+Vh1Og6BoYn+4=; X-YMail-OSG: LT3_9cEVM1kSdCLFw16gy9emS2AMKL1O7I__pNa56pxqDim0A63UlZdMTh4QuLYiHNSmOWNcquccO_j8iXj.olVo_ELtZlfHOD8z5ByW24i__YZUlEiTSBx77wyuSMtf0DFimeDzb1sLAR0- Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:08:40 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: crossfading To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Travis, I think he's talking more about a DJ style of crossfading. As other's said the Repeater had the most "DJ" friendly UI out of the bunch of loopers but I think the EH16 and 2880 have similar methods to manually crossfade multiple loops. The Echoplex Digital Pro doesn't do a crossfade, but you can set the feedback below 100% and fade one loop into another. You can't fade back to your original though. I'm not sure it it ever got implemented, but I remember Bob talking about adding this type of functionality via midi to the Looperlative too. And, of course, there's always Mobius. Sweet delicious Mobius. M --- Travis Hartnett wrote: > The frequent discussions here on the importance of > controllable feedback in > a looper are related to this technique. The ability > to have a loop fade > away while building a new one is something that many > people find desirable > and a depressingly small number of recently looping > devices support. > > Myself, I use an EDP. > > TravisH > > On 1/11/07, aaron leese > wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if this posted last time, there is > almost never NO reponse on > > this list. > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else is interested > in being able to > > crossfading between loop ..... seems like a useful > feature to me ..... > > especially for DJs who use crossfaders ad nauseum. > > but I don't know if I have really seen it done > much before. > > > > If your not sure what I mean by crossfading > between loops, please check > > out > > this demo: > > www.flyloops.com/drum1.swf > > > > Thanks, > > Aaron > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship > Series. Who will win? > > > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 21:20:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EE923BEE9; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAAo5pkXUSnIvh2dsb2JhbACNPgEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070111211403.01a4c008@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:18:30 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: crossfading In-Reply-To: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> References: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-70A6864 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:20:56 +0000 (UTC) >> >>I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to >>crossfading between loop ..... The EDP has something called Flip Mode. Which lets you cross-fade the live material into the loop. Sounds just like a dj x-fade once the loop has gone round. I like it. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 21:37:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F22E73BEEE; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAAY9pkXUSnIvh2dsb2JhbACNPQEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070111212303.01c20370@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:26:56 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: crossfading In-Reply-To: <20070111200840.4380.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070111200840.4380.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-70A6864 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:37:27 +0000 (UTC) >The Echoplex >Digital Pro doesn't do a crossfade, but you can set >the feedback below 100% and fade one loop into >another. You can't fade back to your original though. Essentially that's right. I know what you mean, and in context it's spot on. ...but how about using the feedback to dynamically fade up and down during one duration of the loop? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 21:44:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CAE73BEF6; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <20070111200840.4380.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070111212303.01c20370@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: crossfading Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:43:57 -0500 Message-ID: <020301c735c9$991f9170$0202fea9@mincer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070111212303.01c20370@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc1yLDX5d2LYo1TTBK9DalZ4WlKaAAAMzvQ X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: <2kcxWC.A.bhF.g-qpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:44:00 +0000 (UTC) I do this- although it seems to work better with longer ones, than shorter ones. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, no copies > ...but how about using the feedback to dynamically fade up > and down during one duration of the loop? > > andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 22:10:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 108FD3BEF1; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=UPJ1uVQWSmw7EJ4HwlpMcnKbNyn7H5VmULN2C/AWfEwY42o5g+UUEk6dKTgLi8i5E7a5uSy1+fLkAbRBd26J54nOCR29ZFVUHlGzxy7FLde1sj/r+PPuvBN0J0BfJotvU6/gJ6qDdcEudZMQlLD+UwZw1USIh22eF5czOa0H2bs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070111211403.01a4c008@tiscali.co.uk> References: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070111211403.01a4c008@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <80C4B9C8-58E6-4576-AB5B-8FB28A7E3AA5@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: crossfading Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:10:29 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <7VEW2.A.DrG.ZXrpFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:10:33 +0000 (UTC) >>> I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to >>> crossfading between loop ..... > On 11 jan 2007, at 22.18, a k butler wrote: > The EDP has something called Flip Mode. > Which lets you cross-fade the live material into the loop. > > Sounds just like a dj x-fade once the loop has gone round. > > I like it. I like the Replace Mode of the EDP, for similar reason. But it only crossfades between one onboard loop and the audio input you're feeding it (which might be the other loop to crossfade between). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 22:43:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41E7F3BEF5; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nik Reply-To: Nik To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT Cassette 4-Track... Req! Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:42:13 +0000 Message-ID: <2ttTlShQknKQ.krB4k1HM@smtp.gotadsl.co.uk> X-Mailer:EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: i-default Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Well, it's a non-reversing Aiwa deck with three heads and a closed loop = i.e. spindles and pinch rollers both before and after the head stack, so = pitch stability and repeatability is pretty good. And the pitch shift is a = simple x2, so artefacts are zero. It worked for me. Nik ________________ Reply Header ________________ Subject: Re: OT Cassette 4-Track... Req! Author: "Stephen Goodman" Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:53:31 +0000 Experience with the pitch shift problem trying to record each side = separately proved to be a real pain in the neck, and awfully uncertain in = terms of results. I could clearly detect sync problems - and this was with = a tape using a marking tone. In addition, since there are close to fifty = cassettes to go through to remaster - yes, the world will be subjected to = some of it! - I need to do it with a four-track 1-2-3-4 layout, and want to = have a better tape transport going for it than a standard cassette deck can = provide. I can't take the chance of any of these fellas getting chewed up = either. To my credit these tapes are probably the best-stored items I = own... :) From: "Daryl Shawn" > That's a brilliant solution, I have to say. I imagine almost any editor > = could do the simple assembly after the import. Sounds like in Stephen's=20 > case the pitchshifting wouldn't even be needed. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com >> I used a regular good-quality cassette deck to archive my old 4-track >> = tapes. >> Recorded them to computer in two passes - two tracks at a time. Then = used >> Cooledit to reverse the two that come in backwards and pitch shift = them >> all >> up an octave. Then reassemble and mix in Cubase. That was soe years ago. = >> I >> think I've lost both the tapes and the Cubase files since then! >> >> Nik > > > > >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 23:06:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAC973BEE9; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <80C4B9C8-58E6-4576-AB5B-8FB28A7E3AA5@gmail.com> References: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070111211403.01a4c008@tiscali.co.uk> <80C4B9C8-58E6-4576-AB5B-8FB28A7E3AA5@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6711BBDE-929D-4958-95EA-A29668C57BD6@xmlizer.biz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: crossfading Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:06:46 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:06:54 +0000 (UTC) I don't understand Per's statement: "which might be the other loop". What other loop? (since the EDP can play 1 loop at a time) Also, in what sense is Replace a crossfade? Isn't it rather a hard cut? On Jan 11, 2007, at 23:10 :29, Per Boysen wrote: >>>> I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to >>>> crossfading between loop ..... >> > On 11 jan 2007, at 22.18, a k butler wrote: > >> The EDP has something called Flip Mode. >> Which lets you cross-fade the live material into the loop. >> >> Sounds just like a dj x-fade once the loop has gone round. >> >> I like it. > > I like the Replace Mode of the EDP, for similar reason. But it only > crossfades between one onboard loop and the audio input you're > feeding it (which might be the other loop to crossfade between). > > Greetings from Sweden From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 11 23:29:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A7EA3BEE7; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <00d001c735d8$5e999500$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: References: <5DF598F6-ACAE-4843-8FA7-B96A3E523A7A@fuse.net> Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist)>Akai MFC42 ?? Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:29:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C735E0.BE8397B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:29:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C735E0.BE8397B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >whoa.. tell us about this.=20 >On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:01 PM, markfrancombe.com wrote: >my Vortex, which has been modded to synch to an edp, or click track, Aha... well this is actually well documented in the LD archives if you = want to look. Devised by Sir Mattias Grob himself or God as some of us = call him, it is a simple curcuit that will actually fit inside a special = cable. I however put it permanently inside the Vortex. The tap tempo = jack in can be made to respond to a pulse from the beat synch out from = the EDP, so its like tapping that button continuously in time wit the = music. My mod is 2 switches on the front panel, that enable it to synch = both the tempo (for delay speeds) AND the morph. SO with the A/B patches = set to wildly different sounds, you can switch between them on the beat. = I like slow modulation on A and super fast (ring mod stylee) on B, a = slow A>B setting and a quick B>A setting, so I get this = phoooaghhflutterflutterbbbbzzzzz phoooaghhflutterflutterbbbbzzzzz = phoooaghhflutterflutterbbbbzzzzz effect.... m mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for = www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: monk=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:31 AM Subject: Re: Midi sync-effects (guitarist)>Akai MFC42 ?? whoa.. tell us about this. On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:01 PM, markfrancombe.com wrote: my Vortex, which has been modded to synch to an edp, or click track, -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5918 spam emails to date. 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------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C735E0.BE8397B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 03:07:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 708B03BEF0; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <00d001c735d8$5e999500$5a01a8c0@mark> References: <5DF598F6-ACAE-4843-8FA7-B96A3E523A7A@fuse.net> <00d001c735d8$5e999500$5a01a8c0@mark> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: monk Subject: cheap echoplex Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:07:11 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:07:22 +0000 (UTC) http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital- Pro-Plus?sku=158503X From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 04:54:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 794243BEF9; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.196] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070111232952.EE4CC3BEF3@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Jon Hassell Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:54:00 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2007 04:54:02.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE094D10:01C73605] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Wow Jon Hassell and Terje Rypdal together,sounds great. Jon Hassell's Power Spot is my idea of psychedlia.A few years ago I posted an ad looking for musicians,it said something like,Jon Hassell and John Cage Jam w/ Dr.John at the secret hideout of some Indonesian pirates.I didn't get one single response. _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song.  Get a customized station.  Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 05:00:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 808A33BEF8; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 05:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:00:44 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Jon Hassell Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b5711204b8bee2c4ece47acd18942a4353ca9f47486c6becc8a208c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 05:00:55 +0000 (UTC) I will happily commit my opinion to print: "Jon Hassel is the most important trumpet player since Miles Davis" There I said it. > Wow Jon Hassell and Terje Rypdal together,sounds great. Jon >Hassell's Power Spot is my idea of psychedlia.A few years ago I >posted an ad looking for musicians,it said something like,Jon >Hassell and John Cage Jam w/ Dr.John at the secret hideout of some >Indonesian pirates.I didn't get one single response. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. 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I think Dr john could get along with both of those guys just = like I read a Bert Jansch quote that said he and Johnny Marr make good music = when they play together (!) different genres, kindred souls, go figure!!! = But about those Indonesian pirates... they would definitely have Dr John for dinner, him and his big, jambalaya fed, bad self.=20 Bill -----Original Message----- From: samba - [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:54 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Jon Hassell Wow Jon Hassell and Terje Rypdal together,sounds great. Jon Hassell's=20 Power Spot is my idea of psychedlia.A few years ago I posted an ad = looking=20 for musicians,it said something like,Jon Hassell and John Cage Jam w/=20 Dr.John at the secret hideout of some Indonesian pirates.I didn't get = one=20 single response. _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song.=A0 Get a customized station.=A0 Try MSN Radio = powered=20 by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=3DT002MSN03A07001 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 10:18:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9A9B3BEEE; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAH7upkXUSnIwh2dsb2JhbACNPgEJDio Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070112101311.01a59d88@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:16:24 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: crossfading In-Reply-To: <6711BBDE-929D-4958-95EA-A29668C57BD6@xmlizer.biz> References: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070111211403.01a4c008@tiscali.co.uk> <80C4B9C8-58E6-4576-AB5B-8FB28A7E3AA5@gmail.com> <6711BBDE-929D-4958-95EA-A29668C57BD6@xmlizer.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-75E27139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:18:39 +0000 (UTC) At 23:06 11/01/2007, you wrote: >I don't understand Per's statement: "which might be the other loop". Per? >What other loop? (since the EDP can play 1 loop at a time) >Also, in what sense is Replace a crossfade? Isn't it rather a hard cut? Replace *Mode* one of the interface Modes pedal controls feedback and loop output vol simultaneously. It's like a smoothed version of Replace, if you consider that Feedback is a smoothed version of Substitute. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 10:20:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FF5B3BEF1; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Lw+NPzAcW3Wd1sOJzwiFXsqxBH4054p0N2R4DUY2ARzbw6lx1uUq82Uet3BRagWu+0mAZG2s1CwwIS8PbZjKNxpQkv9LhHbxQ/cBYZltvqYG2xp7gRI6HYO0UxBw7eMzPNe8zwccm2HG8J7noSWCGg5lTG/bvYTdfANVwVoQuvM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <6711BBDE-929D-4958-95EA-A29668C57BD6@xmlizer.biz> References: <475F9D11-D6A5-4FDF-AA29-D9A76D68FF18@gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20070111211403.01a4c008@tiscali.co.uk> <80C4B9C8-58E6-4576-AB5B-8FB28A7E3AA5@gmail.com> <6711BBDE-929D-4958-95EA-A29668C57BD6@xmlizer.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <520BBF1D-0155-4ABF-AB4F-5F7E6F835D64@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: crossfading Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:19:57 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:20:04 +0000 (UTC) On 12 jan 2007, at 00.06, Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: > I don't understand Per's statement: "which might be the other loop". There has to be two loops to do a cross fade. > What other loop? (since the EDP can play 1 loop at a time) That thread was about cross fading in general, not about the EDP. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 13:13:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1DC03BEE9; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2r/S9izQHAzJFurmkT/j8KLtFR2/i98a3PxnvayfyM4lHycfRS7enxmk7qM1nZeSEtlWY63APymPMoxuwDQHaPz4x7TBW8OPZFb3NnU/qd2XxafMe5kqURmdNEFQEhNf7kARobznbamMd/GXUHucYAEKxevZs6c1fD8EdvaxFf0=; X-YMail-OSG: Xi9FS_EVM1kXYOAtlg1rejXpYuhqj9HtMatksrEWjioxtQa9TYtMFx6OMFtOqC0FCfiJ80gSVDrohRGoJC328Nr0LWQAVQcXNV1A_GoD.CnS0eanAZ_eJ1VD4vtc6qjGlYaXut2ja1c- Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:13:47 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: New tune To: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, midiguitar@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <704051.76260.qm@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! 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Newest tracks available on iTunes. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=211875924&s=143441 Thanks Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com http://www.electr-ohm.com http://www.myspace.com/sunao From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 13:29:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 228BD3BEF8; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=fjvw7zEFPiKWss7myEtQa9v5B10PD2tBdNsu/3JkzeWKv5ejreOK0QhRsXVIR/qPD/bhoigG4ikwgNVbBx4ejuuf+w34PvE8ED4h54yeXsFYoxWe5yERiH9IG3Cklwwe43lJ90zQFftdfm2kntlobbSAxH7x1VnEdGobsuriKvI=; X-YMail-OSG: Woo.FfwVM1kkrKwPF.PZttRyw0gsIchtbjFhU4wwPIx3UTqKx0CRCF7gkAl699BIB6AHT_SYkQlfNVrvAcrzNzxIM5NGPGIrXA4M7Mu61HdAeHaplWSegO1F8biD6eTqa5vshWQ_lRKM Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:29:10 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: -How to rute signal (GR-30) guitar and guitarsynth- To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, repeater-users@yahoogroups.com, midiguitar@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <285161.68044.qm@web26201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! My regular setup are: guitar-fuzz-wah-dist-delay-filter-then I split the signal two ways-signal 1 goes to-reverb-looper (repeater) - DI-PA and signal 2 goes to tc delay and the onto two amps. My volumpedals works so I can play with signal 1 - 2 or both at same time. Greate ! Now I want to use my GR-30 too. 1. I cant get synth-sound from guitar-out. Why ? 2. can I send signal from mix out (must be mono -I think -because of pedals) and then feed both of my signalways- with a propar good sound? Or is this just meant for PA ? 3. Is it a way to hook up the GR so it isnt first in signalchain ? I think I only need synth sounds for my signal-chain 1- the digital rute ? Any other advices ? If I have it in front of all other gear will it mess up my guitar-signal ? Rune F www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 14:16:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FA783BEF6; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1auaqRlpj712nGmVVAGbAm+pVMGlubJ7lkrJUROHf/S3danz19QXrH2b1Rs1cDNl6fhQpolNXRKZk5Kju7fr0ypoMW+ve7VmLpLq0D29LBADvf3IMsc1snpLs5BP/PkctGOjeF/qIIYan16TLeDTFDHGpF05cTflabxFYFyXBG0= ; Message-ID: <20070112141614.46115.qmail@web26207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gLFENZcVM1njWojHC9KL4udQuXnAREeLKzDQjcGnO3oxOGCfn365fcHs0oH.5WozrSoo5T2lCCKY7d2qgg59.tmgilG.QwXutInNd9zZeIjMyxlw0TKcL4wEA4hSG.yfLlsT9HhvySt6 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:16:14 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Syncing GR-30 and repeater (Mac) To: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, midiguitar@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! Is it possible to sync (slave) GR-30 to another item - as repeater or mac- so the appegiator works in sync with the beat ? Difficult ? Rune F. www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 14:22:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09EAB3BEF5; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:22:19 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #511 for January 11, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45A7999B.4090509@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:22:18 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070111.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and webcasting on the internet. Show #511 January 11, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Angst" on Revisited Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Chronolyse" by Richard Pinhas on Cobra Records and released in 1976. Klaus Schulze: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#jan PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Richard Pinhas Sur Le Theme De Chronolyse (Cobra) Bene Gesserit King Never Beautifully Broken Lullabies & Sleepless Nights Copal River Outbackyard Copal River (Blue Water) Ben Neill Auricle Green Machine (Astralwerks) Ben Neill Saragasso Green Machine (Astralwerks) Redshift Iron Horse Redshift Wild 2 (Distant Sun) Ololiuqui Backline Other Side of Odra (Ricochet Dream) Mystified Borderlands (edit) CDR ++ 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Klaus Schulze Freeze Angst (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Pain Angst (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Memory Angst (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Surrender Angst (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Beyond Angst (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Silent Survivor Angst (Revisited) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disc one of "Cyborg" on Revisited Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Romance 76" by Peter Baumann on Virgin Records and released in 1976 Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 14:28:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00DB73BED6; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "dm" To: Subject: RE: -How to rute signal (GR-30) guitar and guitarsynth- Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:29:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <285161.68044.qm@web26201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:28:36 +0000 (UTC) WOW!! I finally get to help someone else on this list. Hi, Rune. "1. I cant get synth-sound from guitar-out. Why ?" This is the design of the GR. The GUITAR OUT provides the option to process the guitar's standard pick-ups signal separate from the synth. The default routes the guitar along with the synth out of the MIX. When a cable is connected to the GUITAR OUT jack, only synth sounds are at the MIX OUT and the unprocessed guitar pick-up output is sent separately from the GUITAR OUT jacks. "2. can I send signal from mix out (must be mono -I think -because of pedals) and then feed both of my signal ways- with a proper good sound? Or is this just meant for PA ?" Yes, with proper connections. The problem will be if you acquire both guitar and synth from the MIX OUT mono side and run it through your described signal path, the synth sounds will be effected by your FX chain just like the guitar. I use a mixer so that I can split the signals at the GR, process the guitar separately and re-blend them before the looper. I only use the FX available on the GR on the synth signal so the mixer, in your case would be between the reverb and the Repeater. Also, running the synth sound through a guitar amp is a definite option. I have found that the sounds of an electric guitar and the sounds of a synth require different processing. Most electric guitar amp are too mid-range specific to let the synth patches shine. So, for my purposes, I would run the synth to the PA and not through the guitar amps However, some do and find other sound possibilities in the routing. Experimentation should tell you what you want. The only danger to routing the synth both ways is the increased possibility of ground-loops. but, you're a guitarist. You know about such things. "3. Is it a way to hook up the GR so it isn't first in signalchain ? I think I only need synth sounds for my signal-chain 1- the digital rute ?" You can 1) split the signal from the GR and this >shouldn't< effect the normal guitar output at all. However, if you it does, you can also 2) run a separate cable from the guitar, not letting the normal pick-up go through the 13-pin cable at all. This will mean two (or more, depending on your rig) cables from the guitar to manage but the most confident signal control. Possibilities are myriad. dm www.fixedfocus.org ============ -----Original Message----- From: rune fagereng [mailto:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:29 AM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com; repeater-users@yahoogroups.com; midiguitar@yahoogroups.com Subject: -How to rute signal (GR-30) guitar and guitarsynth- Hi ! My regular setup are: guitar-fuzz-wah-dist-delay-filter-then I split the signal two ways-signal 1 goes to-reverb-looper (repeater) - DI-PA and signal 2 goes to tc delay and the onto two amps. My volumpedals works so I can play with signal 1 - 2 or both at same time. Greate ! Now I want to use my GR-30 too. 1. I cant get synth-sound from guitar-out. Why ? 2. can I send signal from mix out (must be mono -I think -because of pedals) and then feed both of my signalways- with a propar good sound? Or is this just meant for PA ? 3. Is it a way to hook up the GR so it isnt first in signalchain ? I think I only need synth sounds for my signal-chain 1- the digital rute ? Any other advices ? If I have it in front of all other gear will it mess up my guitar-signal ? Rune F www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 14:37:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BCC83BEFB; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "dm" To: Subject: RE: Syncing GR-30 and repeater (Mac) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:38:33 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20070112141614.46115.qmail@web26207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Hello, again, Rune. "Is it possible to sync (slave) GR-30 to another item - as repeater or mac- so the appegiator works in sync with the beat ? "Difficult?" My GR33 doesn't receive MIDI sync, much to my frustration. The VG does, but that's another novella. I doubt the GR30 does, either. I'd need a manual to be sure, it's been a long time since I had my hands on the 30 and it wasn't mine. Just a thought. Is there a device that converts MIDI clock to determined MIDI CC value like the Behringer 1010 can do with Tap Tempo? Maybe someone else in the group knows. dm www.fixedfocus.org ============ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 15:08:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6BA93BEDF; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:08:47 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: -How to rute signal (GR-30) guitar and guitarsynth- In-reply-to: <19715894.1168609050672.JavaMail.root@m11> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <45A7A47F.1080406@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <19715894.1168609050672.JavaMail.root@m11> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:08:55 +0000 (UTC) rune fagereng wrote: > guitar-fuzz-wah-dist-delay-filter-then I split the > signal two ways-signal 1 goes to-reverb-looper > (repeater) - DI-PA and signal 2 goes to tc delay and > the onto two amps. My volumpedals works so I can play > with signal 1 - 2 or both at same time. Greate ! > Now I want to use my GR-30 too. > 1. I cant get synth-sound from guitar-out. Why ? > 2. can I send signal from mix out (must be mono -I > think -because of pedals) and then feed both of my > signalways- with a propar good sound? Or is this just > meant for PA ? > 3. Is it a way to hook up the GR so it isnt first in > signalchain ? I think I only need synth sounds for my > signal-chain 1- the digital rute ? > Any other advices ? > If I have it in front of all other gear will it mess > up my guitar-signal ? No. That is where it is supposed to be. Generally speaking, the guitar output of a guitar synth or guitar-to-MIDI converter, will only have the guitar sound. This is meant to feed your guitar effects (fuzz-wah-dist-delay-filter). Your new signal path should be: +-------+ synth out guitar ------->| |----------------------------> mixer or amp | GR-30 | hex pickup --->| |-------------> fuzz-etc. ---> mixer or amp +-------+ guitar out Your hex pickup controls will have knobs to control the volume of the synth and guitar sounds so you can select what you hear and balance them as needed. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 15:26:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 366AB3BEE9; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <021d01c7365e$0a55a840$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: Subject: Re: [OT] Sunao Inami UK tour January 2007 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:26:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2007 15:26:34.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[0AF25D70:01C7365E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:26:40 +0000 (UTC) I'll go to see Mira Calix this night in Rome. Sunao, what do you think about her show ? Fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunao Inami" To: Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: [OT] Sunao Inami UK tour January 2007 > Hi LD, > > sorry for off topic.. > this is my small UK tour information on January 2007. > > > -------------------------------- > > 27th Sat Jan '07 > Electrophonetik Works > > Live at The Forum, Tunbridge Wells > > MIRA CALIX (WARP) > SUNAO INAMI (electr-ohm) > POLYNOMIAL > > 8PM > > contacts: > The Forum > http://www.twforum.co.uk/ > > Polynomial > http://www.myspace.com/polynomial2 > http://theorangehutstudio.co.uk > > > -------------------------------- > > 24th Wed Jan '07 > Tesco Disco > > Live at The Ditch Bar, London > > [ live set] > Scarlet Soho > Risque > Olympus Mon > Sunao Inami > > [ Resident DJs] > Chris 'Flatline' > Tet Yap > Emily Strange > Kitten > > 8PM to 3AM > > contacts: > http://www.tescodisco.co.uk > > http://www.myspace.com/tescodiscoclub > The Ditch Bar > 145 Shoreditch High Street, London > (020) 7739 6412 > > > -------------------------------- > > 23th Tue Jan '07 > multi vitamins > > Live at The POOL, London > > OLIVER HO/ RAUDIVE (KLANG ELEKTRONIK) > DOUDOU MALICIOUS > SLAUKA > S UNAO INAMI (LIVE) > POSTNINE (LIVE) > CONRADO (LIVE) > TR1PKN1CK (LIVE) > SANPO (LIVE) > > 7PM > Free > > contacts: > http://www.multivitamins-records.com/ > > The Pool > Curtain Rd, Shoreditch, London EC2 3AH > > -------------------------------- > > p.s. > Newest tracks available on iTunes. > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=211875924&s=143441 > > > > Thanks > > Sunao Inami > > http://www.cavestudio.com > http://www.electr-ohm.com > http://www.myspace.com/sunao > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 11/01/2007 > 15.33 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 15:41:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83AAC3BEF7; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loop List Message-Id: <2D38A419-BA31-4A1C-894F-81B20A936AD7@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23--816728342 From: Steve Lawson Subject: Re: [OT] Sunao Inami UK tour January 2007 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:41:56 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:41:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-23--816728342 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Sunao really sorry to be missing your dates - I'm in the US at the moment - those are some amazing people you're playing with. I saw Mira Calix recently at the launch of an album by a new project of her's called Alexander's Annexe, which is with a friend of mine, David Sheppard. Incredible stuff! have a great time, and hopefully meet you next time you come over, Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --Apple-Mail-23--816728342 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 =A0Sunao

really sorry to be missing = your dates - I'm in the US at the moment - those are some amazing people = you're playing with. I saw Mira Calix recently at the launch of an album = by a new project of her's called Alexander's Annexe, which is with a = friend of mine, David Sheppard. Incredible stuff!=A0

have a great time, and = hopefully meet you next time you come over,=A0

http://steve.anthropiccollec= tive.org - = blog
www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson



= --Apple-Mail-23--816728342-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 16:35:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 323E43BEFC; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1114136545.1168619736780.JavaMail.root@fepweb02> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 8:35:36 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jon Hassell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:35:35 -0500 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:35:38 +0000 (UTC) As much as I really, really, really LOVE Jon Hassell's music . . . and I do= . Keep an eye on Vietnamese-American trumpeter Cuong Vu. He's "the next generation" . . . I think (IMOHO). And he's an awesome looper to.=20 -- tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Charles Zwicky wrote:=20 >=20 >=20 > I will happily commit my opinion to print: >=20 >=20 > "Jon Hassel is the most important trumpet player since Miles Davis" >=20 > There I said it. >=20 >=20 > > Wow Jon Hassell and Terje Rypdal together,sounds great. Jon=20 > >Hassell's Power Spot is my idea of psychedlia.A few years ago I=20 > >posted an ad looking for musicians,it said something like,Jon=20 > >Hassell and John Cage Jam w/ Dr.John at the secret hideout of some=20 > >Indonesian pirates.I didn't get one single response. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio=20 > >powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=3DT002MSN03A07001 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 16:46:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCCB73BEF4; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2075665221.1168620369388.JavaMail.root@fepweb02> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 8:46:09 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New tune Cc: rune fagereng MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:46:09 -0500 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Rune, It's delightful!=20 I think its going to be a permanent resident in my iTunes collection. If you do a whole album . . . let us know. -- tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- rune fagereng wrote:=20 > Hi ! >=20 > Here are a new tune of mine. >=20 > http://www.runefagereng.com/Its%20time%20to%20leave%20Rendered.mp3 >=20 > best regards Rune F >=20 > www.runefagereng.com > Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no > Mob: 917 95 867 >=20 >=20 > =09 > =09 > =09=09 > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i =C3=A9n. F=C3=A5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 17:11:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C7C23BF08; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701121711.l0CHBgm9065954@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Syncing GR-30 and repeater (Mac) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:11:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc2V0Ar+IBPDMY3TP+JXa1aYuKBoQAFUCkg X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Thought I'd chime in, the Gr30 does send and recieve midi clock very well and it has the only programmable arpeggio function of any of the GR's. Bill -----Original Message----- From: dm [mailto:dmont@knology.net] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 6:39 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Syncing GR-30 and repeater (Mac) Hello, again, Rune. "Is it possible to sync (slave) GR-30 to another item - as repeater or mac- so the appegiator works in sync with the beat ? "Difficult?" My GR33 doesn't receive MIDI sync, much to my frustration. The VG does, but that's another novella. I doubt the GR30 does, either. I'd need a manual to be sure, it's been a long time since I had my hands on the 30 and it wasn't mine. Just a thought. Is there a device that converts MIDI clock to determined MIDI CC value like the Behringer 1010 can do with Tap Tempo? Maybe someone else in the group knows. dm www.fixedfocus.org ============ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 21:18:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02ECB3BEE2; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.161] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070112152640.D082E3BEF9@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Dr John and pirates Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:18:28 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2007 21:18:31.0651 (UTC) FILETIME=[35F04330:01C7368F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:18:33 +0000 (UTC) I've spent enough time in New Orleans to believe that anyone from there already knows how to talk to pirates. They list Jean Lafitte,before US presidents and European royalty on lists of historical personages to visit the French Quarter , There's Pirates Alley off JackssonBut I was thinking of the danger of the situation adding some interest to the music. Kinda like Mezz Mezzrow's descriptions of playing Al Capone joints in Cicero Illinois in the 20s.One endeavors to keep the rough guys in a good mood. _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song.  Get a customized station.  Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 21:19:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05DE73BEFA; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.161] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070112152640.D082E3BEF9@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Dr John and pirates Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:19:27 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2007 21:19:30.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[5949F1F0:01C7368F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:19:33 +0000 (UTC) That is Pirate's Alley off Jackson square _________________________________________________________________ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place!  MSN Shopping Sales & Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 22:17:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28A7D3BEF0; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAOaXp0XUSnIvh2dsb2JhbACNPQEBCQ4q Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20070112221506.01f04340@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:17:19 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Jon Hassell In-Reply-To: <1114136545.1168619736780.JavaMail.root@fepweb02> References: <1114136545.1168619736780.JavaMail.root@fepweb02> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-43E96437 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:17:13 +0000 (UTC) >Keep an eye on Vietnamese-American trumpeter Cuong Vu. > >He's "the next generation" . . . I think (IMOHO). > >And he's an awesome looper to. but no free downloads as a taster? (checked his site) ...being a fan of Vietnamese music I'm curious andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 22:59:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 305413BEE7; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1dde01c7369d$5d237a40$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:59:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:59:55 +0000 (UTC) FYI...I designed a CD with this program, and recieved my test copy in the mail today....very nice. The quality is indeed good, virtually no difference than what I've seen from DiskFacktory or CafePress, etc. I created my own templates in Firework (.pgn) and exported to .tif to upload using the design software. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "samba -" To: Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: cheap cd publishing no min. > http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=ks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered > by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 23:36:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D513B3BEF3; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A81B90.5080400@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:36:48 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jon Hassell References: <1114136545.1168619736780.JavaMail.root@fepweb02> <7.0.0.16.0.20070112221506.01f04340@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070112221506.01f04340@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:36:51 +0000 (UTC) He's a member of Pat Metheny's current group, if you check out their last DVD he has a few featured spots, including some loopage if I remember correctly. The music sure ain't Vietnamese though... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > >> Keep an eye on Vietnamese-American trumpeter Cuong Vu. >> >> He's "the next generation" . . . I think (IMOHO). >> >> And he's an awesome looper to. > > but no free downloads as a taster? (checked his site) > ...being a fan of Vietnamese music I'm curious > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 12 23:38:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05F3E3BEE2; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1565.69.59.206.219.1168645090.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20070112221506.01f04340@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1114136545.1168619736780.JavaMail.root@fepweb02> <7.0.0.16.0.20070112221506.01f04340@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:38:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Jon Hassell From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:38:12 +0000 (UTC) > >>Keep an eye on Vietnamese-American trumpeter Cuong Vu. >> >>He's "the next generation" . . . I think (IMOHO). >> >>And he's an awesome looper to. > > but no free downloads as a taster? (checked his site) > ...being a fan of Vietnamese music I'm curious > > andy > > Check http://www.cryptogramophone.com/ Search for Myra Melford's new album,he plays on several tunes. Crypogramaphone is quickly becoming one of my favorite labels, between this album, the Nels Cline tribute to Andrew Hill and the new Bennie Maupin, they have put out some amazing albums this year. Terje Rypdal was mentioned on this thread, I'm a huge fan of his. There's a great DVD of him with Miroslav Vitous and Trilok Gurtu from the Stuttgart jazz festival, from the '90's. Awesome stuff. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 00:00:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45C7B3BEF4; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vy/IKytD5cxJjnuCVJIk9U8ISf2nyD8wfVcj6V3gSepCeQLuS0VGvfiLYOt5rzF34aSwiv/24QLlcWCTWZEFeswLE10NLRoXFTswFaoeGWcUjBUYeHt3wuX6v8dLPDozT/S39AgWaOc7QyVki10AOK1pf+x1iOaivBSbqiz9BWw= ; Message-ID: <20070113000002.96180.qmail@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: z9nUUnYVM1lZRHxLW.qzE3XP3VhbA2jGHHwb.Ly1mYZhmyh8jBrvYGIogmH_ASG7IxwNzPW5Lfd_Qb9Fmf6dVGhVBA.Sz9TXsiVIJDe8lNNJiBXv4df75sY6jQHfcurSYfPQyejhnMlLWw-- Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:00:02 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: synth guitar outs To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, You might want to try runing your syth out through a keyboard amp or, as I have found, an acoustic guitar amp can serve well if you are not going way down low into the bass spectrum at high levels. i am using a Peavey Ecoustic-112 and the amp is pretty transparent. Just my $0.02 Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 00:11:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 401FC3BEF0; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <566236453.1168647100361.JavaMail.root@fepweb04> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:11:40 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jon Hassell Cc: improv@peak.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:11:39 -0500 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <3hr8WC.A.EeB.APCqFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:11:45 +0000 (UTC) ---- improv@peak.org wrote:=20 > Terje Rypdal was mentioned on this thread, I'm a huge fan of his. There's > a great DVD of him with Miroslav Vitous and Trilok Gurtu from the > Stuttgart jazz festival, from the '90's. Awesome stuff. Oh really? Where can this be had? Terje is one of the two or three people= =20 whom I buy everything I can get my hands on by. -- tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 05:17:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A4013BEF4; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <566236453.1168647100361.JavaMail.root@fepweb04> References: <566236453.1168647100361.JavaMail.root@fepweb04> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--767768457 Message-Id: From: Dion Stewart Subject: Re: Jon Hassell Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:17:56 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:17:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--767768457 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Here you go... http://www.abstractlogix.com/xcart/product.php?=20 productid=3D21145&cat=3D0&page=3D2 Abstract Logix has a great catalog. Dion On Jan 12, 2007, at 6:11 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: >> Terje Rypdal was mentioned on this thread, I'm a huge fan of his. =20 >> There's >> a great DVD of him with Miroslav Vitous and Trilok Gurtu from the >> Stuttgart jazz festival, from the '90's. Awesome stuff. > > Oh really? Where can this be had? Terje is one of the two or three =20 > people > whom I buy everything I can get my hands on by. --Apple-Mail-1--767768457 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Here you = go...



Abstract Logix has a great = catalog.

Dion



On Jan 12, 2007, = at 6:11 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote:

Terje = Rypdal was mentioned on this thread, I'm a huge fan of his. = There's

a great = DVD of him with Miroslav Vitous and Trilok Gurtu from the

Stuttgart jazz festival, = from the '90's. Awesome stuff.


Oh = really? Where can this be had? Terje is one of the two or three = people=A0

whom I buy everything I can = get my hands on by.


= --Apple-Mail-1--767768457-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 09:12:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56D413BEFC; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 09:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 04:12:04 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to the AM/FM Show To: beyond_em Yahoogroups List , ASMID Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List , ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , tangerinedream Yahhogroups List , Electronic Music 2000 Yahoogroups List , Jeff Kowal , Daniel Pipitone , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Philly Ambient Yahoogroups Mailing List Message-id: <45A8A264.3050509@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 09:12:24 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= The AM/FM Show is today, Saturday, January 13 at 6:00 am (EST / GMT-5). I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 11:53:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D55A3BEF4; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=rkYDTKlXPlQSp3/O5J+9TT/aKEn93pCQT+KTidfyO5Kor10g7D8LmvwW7yJocLRuJLSy76lrop/tS5SHHnkgRIN6c0mpR0XgW3IN69NZ2buON6TrcOBU/asOcHEoG6863rpQK6frNSJyxFNEie9Yd7QUBzz+Ix36XiYdqUxQ+nU=; X-YMail-OSG: x3d.398VM1kH44iCcQq6o.I1ANhRdWRuUuOnlruobFf4ub3Os0IznRYroBB0Dgz5tQTvENRkOLp7WGGn2zQnzT8kKktbMnk2lbIFHUQyvOXJ8D0S4SOd4Q-- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 03:53:47 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: ideal compact acoustic Floor FX unit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <714997.43548.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:53:49 +0000 (UTC) if u were to pickup one compact floor unit(no rack)stereo in/out for acoustic guitar which one would you choose?it has to have offcourse a good visible tuner and exp pedal. I live in a very little town and can´t try out much gear so i am grateful for your advice and experience. thanx Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 12:02:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46C143BEFA; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=q1WsBfzdJ4VzcaL5AhuxVa4s7GvvPMn4JmqfCI6fdy+Vc4EcmYfxyyEzZs7xH64xCT73rCQ97JizBjhdj3YnAysJsu53tg/5UDT3ffqy+vGowGp8SDAbgLMqtHbnfySmq5oBENRRMiHkBZFV97aKuAVDajOZYXsJPoYnBakesXI=; X-YMail-OSG: 8m94JCYVM1m1LkrrZPCt3UPCgozbd8IQ2cSUIdTEyTU_47HMMg0RBgo2zFo0VWqGaoIdoTJerz2EoTXeMWMkHnSCaDorPxU_GOzBDBlsXGCQZyq8LH1pww-- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 04:02:43 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: -How to rute signal (GR-30) guitar and guitarsynth- To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <285161.68044.qm@web26201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <763021.92941.qm@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:02:46 +0000 (UTC) here is my setup if its of any help: GR synth ready guitar Hex pickup GR33 guitar out to Roland GP100 preamp-stereo outs to channels 1/2 of mixer. GR33-synth stereo outs to channels 3/4 mixer 2 EDPs in aux channels and its outs to channels 5/6 electrix Mo-fx in alt 3/4 and its outs into channels 7/8. cheers Luis --- rune fagereng wrote: > Hi ! > > My regular setup are: > > guitar-fuzz-wah-dist-delay-filter-then I split the > signal two ways-signal 1 goes to-reverb-looper > (repeater) - DI-PA and signal 2 goes to tc delay and > the onto two amps. My volumpedals works so I can > play > with signal 1 - 2 or both at same time. Greate ! > > Now I want to use my GR-30 too. > > 1. I cant get synth-sound from guitar-out. Why ? > 2. can I send signal from mix out (must be mono -I > think -because of pedals) and then feed both of my > signalways- with a propar good sound? Or is this > just > meant for PA ? > 3. Is it a way to hook up the GR so it isnt first in > signalchain ? I think I only need synth sounds for > my > signal-chain 1- the digital rute ? > > Any other advices ? > > If I have it in front of all other gear will it mess > up my guitar-signal ? > > Rune F > > > www.runefagereng.com > Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no > Mob: 917 95 867 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, > kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 12:45:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA3883BEF4; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01a301c73710$ab6ed3c0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Vietnamese music and Live Looping Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 04:45:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:45:17 +0000 (UTC) In the John Hassel thread, Andy Butler said that he is interested in Vietnamese music. This reminds me to mention that you folks much check out the wonderful musical world of Unity Nguyen. She was one of the featured artists at the first Woman's Live Looping Festival that I curated for the San Jose Museum of Art. She is a wonderful musician who uses live looping in her use of West African and Vietnamese music. She plays both the 21 stringed harp, the Kora (having lived and studied for 2 1/2 years in Senegal and Ghana with Kora masters Boubacar Diebate, Ibrahim Cissoko) and zither/horizontal harp called the Dan Tranh (instructed originally by Van-Anh Vo) She also is a beautiful singer and a beautiful spirit as well. This rennaisance woman with a generous heart also has a Masters in Traditional Chinese Medicine, a BS in Environmental Policy and Behaviour and is currently in medical school to become a doctor of Traditional Western Medicine. All of this work has curtailed some of her musical performances but I"m trying to entice her to perform at the Y2K7 Loopfest. Please check out here music......................she's a wonderful artist who I have the highest respect for. She has CDs for sale at her website. http://www.unityhealinghands.com/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 14:51:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57D703BEF6; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 09:51:15 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for January 13, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45A8F1E3.6070500@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:51:47 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2007/070113.html I host the Saturday AM/FM Show every other week where I play electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #100 January 13, 2006. During Phase I of this show, I continued the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [ARC] Arcturus part 1 E-dition #11 (Groove) (intro) VA [ARC] Arcturus part 2 E-dition #11 (Groove) (sequence) VA [Ian Boddy] Aurora E-dition #11 (Groove) VA [Ian Boddy] Chiasmata E-dition #11 (Groove) Rudy Adrian Midnight Fantasy Moonwater (Lotuspike) Angel part 1 Rudy Adrian Midnight Fantasy Moonwater (Lotuspike) Angel part 2 Klangwelt XOIO XOIO (Spheric Music) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Mars Lasar Great Beast of Karma (Anagram) Wisdom Mars Lasar Deep Cavern Karma (Anagram) VA [Andreas Leifeld] Kenya Night (Ozella) The Side Project Affirmation A Comfortable Struggle (Track 7) Tavern Tan Train Wreck Foxed, Flawed & Cupshot (Fez Monkey) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Pinnacle The Life In A Year Meld (Everything To Excess) Parallel Mind Beginning's End Colossus ADEA (Unicorn) Erik Norlander Ocean Breakup/King Hommage Symphonique of the Universe (Think Tank) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) I return to the AM/FM Show on January 27. On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 20:13:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDD4A3BEF4; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=UK1oygbfJG/by54orn213oZ2G1T/o2iFrYjwRI6M7TnxLGY4DU4UUwsD3LOQPuMgFr5CArzRK3DXD31PZWXu3t2bdijlRAU23M71c6fsjHWb6ADS23UB0pc/nGS9ihpDm510das4QzEvBKzdGaBrkQoUlbpIpZ4CEg4g2xhu0tQ=; X-YMail-OSG: yjYSFIEVM1noyKrBNCS1E49kq_apPJZfBiNOgIGiKAukd3NnUcEZCFTTMhqffowfoSkK5qobMm4yZTx7lb9TKyKiAQwsmbHynK0OgKxOoQ2fSuw22LGP3F45F3_XwPIs8dx6qtO5JSF3nrs- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:13:09 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: pedal board resources To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <989286.578.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Hey all, I'm currently redesigning my pedalboard so that I can place my looper on with the rest of my effects. I have the design all set up and a mock up for it about ready(I'll be documenting the build as I go on both my Yahoo 360 and myspace pages,complete with pics and descriptions), but I want to install a channel switcher and a couple of bypass switches so that I can minimise noise and keep a cleaner signal path when those effects aren't in use. Does anyone have any type of resources for parts, schematics, tutorials, etc. on how to wire them up? ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 21:24:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F336E3BEFA; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:22:32 -0800 From: David Brown Subject: Re: pedal board resources To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <009601c73758$f0f6bbe0$89495118@vn.shawcable.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <989286.578.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:24:51 +0000 (UTC) The latest edition of Audioxpress magazine has an interesting article on building switching circuits for pedal boards but I don't think you can switch the order of effects or their signal input and output levels like you would be able to do with, probably the most sophisticated and expensive switching device I know of, the Switchblade. For simple in out/bypass switching this article would meet your needs though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kupferschmid" To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: pedal board resources > Hey all, I'm currently redesigning my pedalboard so > that I can place my looper on with the rest of my > effects. I have the design all set up and a mock up > for it about ready(I'll be documenting the build as I > go on both my Yahoo 360 and myspace pages,complete > with pics and descriptions), but I want to install a > channel switcher and a couple of bypass switches so > that I can minimise noise and keep a cleaner signal > path when those effects aren't in use. Does anyone > have any type of resources for parts, schematics, > tutorials, etc. on how to wire them up? > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 21:59:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8C023BEF9; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: x5SziP8VM1kEoq6xpE3fWND3wli.og9MjHbavm4FuLPqWXPvXztTQBGRCD.uCyDBGv_S_H2jRDPvHcJScNGhJ_v1L.T3vdRfmZ9SXEHXuNJSxgFIYi2jZCFlTi56XTviLE98ul1GFqhR7g-- From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: EDP woes II Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:01:51 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <3b2d602cb4c454fa918143598dd3b797@cox.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi All! The output knob on my Gibson EDP is crackling and cutting in and out. When I push in on the knob it quiets down but otherwise it's nasty. Is seems like it's much easier to turn than the other knobs as well. I tried some contact cleaning stuff I bought at Radio Shack and not really helping. Thoughts? Thanks, Plish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 23:00:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57F0F3BEFA; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A972A8.6050901@imt.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:00:40 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes II References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <66MS_C.A.9qE.2RWqFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Hmm. Might have taken a hit and you have a cracked poteniometer board. I could open one and see how they are built. I can't recall. But likely it's a pc mount pot where either the solder is broken or the whole bakelite piece or whatever the potentiometer's resistive material is layed on inside is cracked. -Bob Michael Plishka wrote: >Hi All! > >The output knob on my Gibson EDP is crackling and cutting in and out. When >I push >in on the knob it quiets down but otherwise it's nasty. Is seems like it's >much easier to turn than the other knobs as well. I tried some contact >cleaning stuff I bought at Radio Shack and not really helping. > >Thoughts? > >Thanks, > >Plish > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 23:09:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4E6F3BEF9; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: .T.6oi8VM1mHgObL0qsYf.5zmTdUvJmw9ity5973aObna3ImOyT4vAQVeP.88TNYX5pWDtZGQGdcGrEdE6HjSFf8c0arnoiX5vlg0XMYZBS9_9QGI82j From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: RE: EDP woes II Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:12:13 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <45A972A8.6050901@imt.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:09:55 +0000 (UTC) I did open the box Bob and had a tough time getting one screw out so I couldn't totally undo it. I have a gig tonight (sans EDP but maybe with a Rang) but tomorrow I'll try and get closer to it to see what it looks like. If it is cracked, do you have nay idea what the replacement is? Thanks! Plish -----Original Message----- From: Bob Weigel [mailto:sounddoctorin@imt.net] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:01 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes II Hmm. Might have taken a hit and you have a cracked poteniometer board. I could open one and see how they are built. I can't recall. But likely it's a pc mount pot where either the solder is broken or the whole bakelite piece or whatever the potentiometer's resistive material is layed on inside is cracked. -Bob Michael Plishka wrote: >Hi All! > >The output knob on my Gibson EDP is crackling and cutting in and out. When >I push >in on the knob it quiets down but otherwise it's nasty. Is seems like it's >much easier to turn than the other knobs as well. I tried some contact >cleaning stuff I bought at Radio Shack and not really helping. > >Thoughts? > >Thanks, > >Plish > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 13 23:19:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AEE13BF04; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <014701c73769$47977330$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: NAMM Live Loopers BRUNCH Invitation Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:19:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=1.0 tests=AWL,INFO_TLD autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:19:34 +0000 (UTC) I would like to propose that the ANNUAL LIVE LOOPERS NAMM BRUNCH be at 12 noon on SUNDAY in the same place we always have it. (I always feel ridiculous but I can't remember the Hotel name but it is the restaurant that is directly across the street from the Main NAMM entrance on the right hand side of the road.) We always have a fun time every year at the brunch......... a nice place to put faces to names here in our community. You just go in and go to their 1st floor restaurant. So..................... 1) Would everybody intereseted in attending please e-mail me off list so that I can have an idea of how many people to make a reservation for that day. 2) Would someone rehip me to the name of the hotel and restaurant? rickwalker(at sign)looppool.info Please just put NAMM LIVE LOOPERS BRUNCH in the header (no need for a message unless you want to say hi) See you all there and please come by and say hi to my brother Bill Walker, Steve Lawson and Bob Amstadt at the Looperlative booth. We'll be demoning the Looperlative for anyone who wants to check out this amazing machine on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Thanks a lot, Yours, in looping!!! Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 05:10:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 980FD3BF07; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A9BB3A.5000508@hevanet.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:10:18 -0800 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NAMM Live Loopers BRUNCH Invitation References: <014701c73769$47977330$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <014701c73769$47977330$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:10:21 +0000 (UTC) RICK WALKER wrote: > We'll be demoning the Looperlative for anyone > who wants to check out this amazing machine on Friday, Saturday and > Sunday. In respect to the Man, this demoning...are we dealing with actual demons, or ...? Have a great demo/lunch/etc, David From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 05:11:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E63123BF0C; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:11:21 +0100 From: "Torstein H. Rem" Subject: Re: pedal board resources To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <002001c7379a$6e59ab10$0200000a@remwavesnet> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <989286.578.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_J7QSB.A.D6H.-tbqFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:11:26 +0000 (UTC) `How to make your own True Bypass Strip` http://www.singlecoil.com/tb-strip/tbstrip.html Could also ask here http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/ or check their schematics page http://www.diystompboxes.com/pedals/schematics.html Btw Several threads found when doing a search on `loooper` http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?action=search2 or `looper` http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?action=search2 or `loop box` http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?action=search2 Dual loop selector http://hammer.ampage.org/?cmd=lt&xid=&fid=&ex=&pg=3 Links to folks making loooper boxes - some smaller and some more advanced http://www.analogman.com/switchbox/index.htm http://www.banzaieffects.com/produc...productid=17667 http://www.herby.kielce.pl/~piter/hexe/index_eng.htm http://holowon.com/ http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/web-ikebe/noahsark-ptbs/ http://www.lehle.com/ http://loooper.com/ temporary not in production http://www.loop-master.com/catalog/index.php http://www.masottiamp.it/std-tb6.html#english http://www.masottiamp.it/products.html http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/routers.html http://www.obgcustom.com/ http://www.pedalboards.com/ http://www.pacificustompedals.com/pages/home.php http://www.rjmmusic.com/loopgizmo.php http://www.robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=23 http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/index.html http://www.tonebone.com/tb-loopbone.htm http://www.tonefactor.com/proddetail.php?prod=Deuce http://www.true-bypass-loopers.com/ T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kupferschmid" To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: pedal board resources > Hey all, I'm currently redesigning my pedalboard so > that I can place my looper on with the rest of my > effects. I have the design all set up and a mock up > for it about ready(I'll be documenting the build as I > go on both my Yahoo 360 and myspace pages,complete > with pics and descriptions), but I want to install a > channel switcher and a couple of bypass switches so > that I can minimise noise and keep a cleaner signal > path when those effects aren't in use. Does anyone > have any type of resources for parts, schematics, > tutorials, etc. on how to wire them up? > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 05:20:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D817C3BF0F; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:20:14 +0100 From: "Torstein H. Rem" Subject: Re: pedal board resources To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000601c7379b$aba6ea90$0200000a@remwavesnet> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <989286.578.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Forgot to show this nice looper, allthough too complex for a DIY project I would think. Looks like a great box though if Midi is on the wish list. http://www.musicomlab.co.kr/images/efx_image.jpg http://www.musicomlab.co.kr/ T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kupferschmid" To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: pedal board resources > Hey all, I'm currently redesigning my pedalboard so > that I can place my looper on with the rest of my > effects. I have the design all set up and a mock up > for it about ready(I'll be documenting the build as I > go on both my Yahoo 360 and myspace pages,complete > with pics and descriptions), but I want to install a > channel switcher and a couple of bypass switches so > that I can minimise noise and keep a cleaner signal > path when those effects aren't in use. Does anyone > have any type of resources for parts, schematics, > tutorials, etc. on how to wire them up? > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 05:25:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 526213BF17; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:25:49 +0100 From: "Torstein H. Rem" Subject: Re: pedal board resources To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000801c7379c$73695fe0$0200000a@remwavesnet> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <989286.578.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <009601c73758$f0f6bbe0$89495118@vn.shawcable.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:25:47 +0000 (UTC) The Gigrig I posted in the links above (besides the Musicom box) has some tricks up the sleeve. A rather large box and the cost is an issue. http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/UK_and_Europe_Store.html T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Brown" To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:22 PM Subject: Re: pedal board resources > The latest edition of Audioxpress magazine has an interesting article on > building switching circuits for pedal boards but I don't think you can > switch the order of effects or their signal input and output levels like > you > would be able to do with, probably the most sophisticated and expensive > switching device I know of, the Switchblade. For simple in out/bypass > switching this article would meet your needs though. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Kupferschmid" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:13 PM > Subject: pedal board resources > > >> Hey all, I'm currently redesigning my pedalboard so >> that I can place my looper on with the rest of my >> effects. I have the design all set up and a mock up >> for it about ready(I'll be documenting the build as I >> go on both my Yahoo 360 and myspace pages,complete >> with pics and descriptions), but I want to install a >> channel switcher and a couple of bypass switches so >> that I can minimise noise and keep a cleaner signal >> path when those effects aren't in use. Does anyone >> have any type of resources for parts, schematics, >> tutorials, etc. on how to wire them up? >> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ >> It's here! Your new message! >> Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. >> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 05:47:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABF693BF11; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ndqrDcHpSLMKCH0ymW+OY0gy7iVnjzusJ45e7aPaAiTrPcbbR8uBmzIuREL5zdkFq+MhJvMT27YN+b33K+T2Ska0KRVyOcqNoctr1OkxUS0hNoSLqKhSdwougLwkHrGWHISv2JL/aa2JbuTKo7CAlRN6bYZ3pqGO89zGc2WILeA=; X-YMail-OSG: xMsQFjsVM1myIwPRLapNMFH.V7tleDhkXth8ewWTxUO26JNWik6exbIUD7xcypp9mgorTHvTY7fBfv9VugVGY1L8VnVK6PwwYU6bMXTSC_rwMfflTkaHplSk_aZeboVJcWxIzi6Lzrl3uw-- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:47:14 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: bypass switches To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <281734.96322.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, in the book "Electronic projects for Musicians", Craig Anderton has a chapter on stompbox bypass switches that are very simple, yet effective. basically it just uses acouple tie down resistors at the switch points to gently discharge any capacitance that can make those nasty pops go away. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 07:21:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0170C3BF0E; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000001c737ac$b09a3ff0$6401a8c0@sandalabra.com> From: "sandy" To: Subject: echoplex midi controller Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:20:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C7377A.1CE8B8E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:21:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C7377A.1CE8B8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I HAVE AN ECHOPLEX WITH AN FCB1010. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROGRAM A PEDAL = FOR EACH BUTTON ON THE INTERFACE BUT I AM WONDERING IF THERE IS A WAY TO = PROGRAM A SEPERATE PEDAL FOR EACH OF THE FUNCTIONS, RATHER THAN EACH = BUTTON. THIS WAY, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO JUMP TO DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS = WITHOUT HAVING TO PUSH THE PEDAL FOR PARAMETER TO GET TO ANOTHER ROW = BBEFORE PUSHING THE ASSIGNED FUNCTION PEDAL. IN OTHER WORDS... IS THERE = A WAY TO FO FROM RECORD STRAIGHT TO REVERSE WITHOUT HAVING TO SWITH THE = PARAMETERS BUTTON? ARE THERE ALTERNATIVE MIDI NOTE NUMBERS TO EACH = FUNCTION RATHER THAN ONE NOTE NUMBER PER COLUMN? =20 SANDY ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C7377A.1CE8B8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I HAVE AN ECHOPLEX WITH AN FCB1010. I = HAVE BEEN=20 ABLE TO PROGRAM A PEDAL FOR EACH BUTTON ON THE INTERFACE BUT I AM = WONDERING IF=20 THERE IS A WAY TO PROGRAM A SEPERATE PEDAL FOR EACH OF THE FUNCTIONS, = RATHER=20 THAN EACH BUTTON. THIS WAY, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO JUMP TO DIFFERENT = FUNCTIONS=20 WITHOUT HAVING TO PUSH THE PEDAL FOR PARAMETER TO GET TO ANOTHER ROW = BBEFORE=20 PUSHING THE ASSIGNED FUNCTION PEDAL. IN OTHER WORDS... IS THERE A WAY TO = FO FROM=20 RECORD STRAIGHT TO REVERSE WITHOUT HAVING TO SWITH THE PARAMETERS = BUTTON? ARE=20 THERE ALTERNATIVE MIDI NOTE NUMBERS TO EACH FUNCTION RATHER THAN ONE = NOTE NUMBER=20 PER COLUMN?
   
     =20 SANDY
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C7377A.1CE8B8E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 07:31:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 996183BF15; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45A9EA9E.9090500@imt.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:32:30 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com, midiguitar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New tune References: <704051.76260.qm@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <704051.76260.qm@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Hey nice production on that. -Bob rune fagereng wrote: >Hi ! > >Here are a new tune of mine. > >http://www.runefagereng.com/Its%20time%20to%20leave%20Rendered.mp3 > >best regards Rune F > >www.runefagereng.com >Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no >Mob: 917 95 867 > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og >notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 09:03:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE4C03BF13; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AA002E.4060306@imt.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:04:30 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP woes II References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Remove it and send a photo and I likely have something that will work. On my site www.imt.net/~sounddoctorin/synthtec is a parts link that has a bunch of parts houses including 'all electronics' which often has economical pots that will replace a lot of things. Lots of places on line though. But I might save you some time if I recognize it or sometimes you can just cross wire (ie. flip a lugged pot over and wire across the two outside leads so they match up the right direction so you don't reverse it :-). ) and this has the advantage of never cracking again since the pot board isn't attached to the circuit board so that if it gets stressed it cracks there. These are built pretty well though so I don't know if that's a possibility unless the nut got loose or something. -Bob Michael Plishka wrote: >I did open the box Bob and had a tough time getting one screw out so I >couldn't totally undo it. I have a gig tonight (sans EDP but maybe with a >Rang) but tomorrow I'll try and get closer to it to see what it looks like. >If it is cracked, do you have nay idea what the replacement is? > >Thanks! > >Plish > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bob Weigel [mailto:sounddoctorin@imt.net] >Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:01 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: EDP woes II > > >Hmm. Might have taken a hit and you have a cracked poteniometer board. >I could open one and see how they are built. I can't recall. But >likely it's a pc mount pot where either the solder is broken or the >whole bakelite piece or whatever the potentiometer's resistive material >is layed on inside is cracked. -Bob > >Michael Plishka wrote: > > > >>Hi All! >> >>The output knob on my Gibson EDP is crackling and cutting in and out. When >>I push >>in on the knob it quiets down but otherwise it's nasty. Is seems like it's >>much easier to turn than the other knobs as well. I tried some contact >>cleaning stuff I bought at Radio Shack and not really helping. >> >>Thoughts? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Plish >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 10:12:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AD893BEFF; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=FUVDuldJtfESZ+JHXW9Pp+Kw+PYok2G+EF0BwUQUUyave9UCY3fxmWW8jYU5l4FVFPhxXHMOYbHZmvZjOav2Pjxcm2mD0vMRMRDMe4kY5SEQkVFDv2UY8MdSOUKJO4iPMd+mkEZ1vD8/NZcRV3riUbE3N8YmasY8uL1vuJfy2sI= In-Reply-To: <000001c737ac$b09a3ff0$6401a8c0@sandalabra.com> References: <000001c737ac$b09a3ff0$6401a8c0@sandalabra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0B1AB6FB-91AF-4B30-8B47-647D57DF23B9@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: echoplex midi controller Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:12:28 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:12:33 +0000 (UTC) On 14 jan 2007, at 08.20, sandy wrote: > I HAVE AN ECHOPLEX WITH AN FCB1010. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROGRAM A > PEDAL FOR EACH BUTTON ON THE INTERFACE BUT I AM WONDERING IF THERE > IS A WAY TO PROGRAM A SEPERATE PEDAL FOR EACH OF THE FUNCTIONS, > RATHER THAN EACH BUTTON. THIS WAY, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO JUMP TO > DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO PUSH THE PEDAL FOR PARAMETER > TO GET TO ANOTHER ROW BBEFORE PUSHING THE ASSIGNED FUNCTION PEDAL. > IN OTHER WORDS... IS THERE A WAY TO FO FROM RECORD STRAIGHT TO > REVERSE WITHOUT HAVING TO SWITH THE PARAMETERS BUTTON? ARE THERE > ALTERNATIVE MIDI NOTE NUMBERS TO EACH FUNCTION RATHER THAN ONE NOTE > NUMBER PER COLUMN? > > SANDY Yes, to all those questions. If your EDP runs Loop4 you have a little more functions to target directly (as if it's running Loop3). Check out the listing of note number per function that comes with the manual and assign pedals to those function you want to use. Good luck! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 15:35:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64FC73BEF5; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <018a01c737f1$a8a83370$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" References: <45A9BB3A.5000508@hevanet.com> Subject: Re: NAMM Live Loopers BRUNCH Invitation Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:35:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:35:47 +0000 (UTC) argggggggg, I have to quit making posts as the sun comes up when I'm wasted from working all day. >From my perspective (and yes, the sun is coming up again) we are definitely dealing with demons, David.................lol Wish you could make it, brother! Rick > RICK WALKER wrote: >> We'll be demoning the Looperlative for anyone >> who wants to check out this amazing machine on Friday, Saturday and >> Sunday. > > In respect to the Man, this demoning...are we dealing with actual demons, > or ...? > > Have a great demo/lunch/etc, > > David > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 17:33:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1C703BEF8; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <018a01c737f1$a8a83370$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <45A9BB3A.5000508@hevanet.com> <018a01c737f1$a8a83370$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--637242921 Message-Id: <0ddf7b63863922edbdf253bb9dd92682@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: NAMM Live Loopers BRUNCH Invitation Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:33:21 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:33:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--637242921 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi there Rick, For the second year in a row I am having to blow off going to NAMM. Maybe next time. Peace, tEd =AE kiLLiAn http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?=20 playListId=3D6378076 =93To refute the solipsist or the metaphysical idealist all you have to =20= do is take him out and throw a rock at his head: if he ducks he=92s a =20= liar. His logic may be airtight but his argument, far from revealing =20 the delusions of living experience, only exposes the limitations of =20 logic.=94 -- Edward Abbey, from Desert Solitaire http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? "Different is not always better, but better is always different" > --Apple-Mail-3--637242921 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Hi there Rick, For the second year in a row I am having to blow off going to NAMM. Maybe next time. Peace, tEd =AE kiLLiAn = 0000,0000,8080http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZS= tore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=3D6378076 8080,0000,0000 =93To refute the solipsist or the metaphysical idealist all you have to do is take him out and throw a rock at his head: if he ducks he=92s a liar. His logic may be airtight but his argument, far from revealing the delusions of living experience, only exposes the limitations of logic.=94 -- Edward Abbey, from Desert = Solitaire9B9B,9B9B,9B9B http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? 8080,0000,0000"Different is not always better, but better is always different" = --Apple-Mail-3--637242921-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 18:58:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A68DC3BEE2; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:58:38 -0600 From: "Sandy Rowles" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: echoplex midi controller In-Reply-To: <0B1AB6FB-91AF-4B30-8B47-647D57DF23B9@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_79520_3588335.1168801118405" References: <000001c737ac$b09a3ff0$6401a8c0@sandalabra.com> <0B1AB6FB-91AF-4B30-8B47-647D57DF23B9@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:58:41 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_79520_3588335.1168801118405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I HAVENT YET UPGRADED TO LOOP4 AS I HAVE JUST GOT MY FIRST ECHOPLEX. IS THERE ANYWAY TO DO IT WITH LOOP3? On 1/14/07, Per Boysen wrote: > > On 14 jan 2007, at 08.20, sandy wrote: > > > I HAVE AN ECHOPLEX WITH AN FCB1010. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROGRAM A > > PEDAL FOR EACH BUTTON ON THE INTERFACE BUT I AM WONDERING IF THERE > > IS A WAY TO PROGRAM A SEPERATE PEDAL FOR EACH OF THE FUNCTIONS, > > RATHER THAN EACH BUTTON. THIS WAY, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO JUMP TO > > DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO PUSH THE PEDAL FOR PARAMETER > > TO GET TO ANOTHER ROW BBEFORE PUSHING THE ASSIGNED FUNCTION PEDAL. > > IN OTHER WORDS... IS THERE A WAY TO FO FROM RECORD STRAIGHT TO > > REVERSE WITHOUT HAVING TO SWITH THE PARAMETERS BUTTON? ARE THERE > > ALTERNATIVE MIDI NOTE NUMBERS TO EACH FUNCTION RATHER THAN ONE NOTE > > NUMBER PER COLUMN? > > > > SANDY > > > Yes, to all those questions. > > If your EDP runs Loop4 you have a little more functions to target > directly (as if it's running Loop3). Check out the listing of note > number per function that comes with the manual and assign pedals to > those function you want to use. Good luck! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > ------=_Part_79520_3588335.1168801118405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I HAVENT YET UPGRADED TO LOOP4 AS I HAVE JUST GOT MY FIRST ECHOPLEX. IS THERE ANYWAY TO DO IT WITH LOOP3?

On 1/14/07, Per Boysen < perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On 14 jan 2007, at 08.20, sandy wrote:

> I HAVE AN ECHOPLEX WITH AN FCB1010. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROGRAM A
> PEDAL FOR EACH BUTTON ON THE INTERFACE BUT I AM WONDERING IF THERE
> IS A WAY TO PROGRAM A SEPERATE PEDAL FOR EACH OF THE FUNCTIONS,
> RATHER THAN EACH BUTTON. THIS WAY, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO JUMP TO
> DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO PUSH THE PEDAL FOR PARAMETER
> TO GET TO ANOTHER ROW BBEFORE PUSHING THE ASSIGNED FUNCTION PEDAL.
> IN OTHER WORDS... IS THERE A WAY TO FO FROM RECORD STRAIGHT TO
> REVERSE WITHOUT HAVING TO SWITH THE PARAMETERS BUTTON? ARE THERE
> ALTERNATIVE MIDI NOTE NUMBERS TO EACH FUNCTION RATHER THAN ONE NOTE
> NUMBER PER COLUMN?
>
>       SANDY


Yes, to all those questions.

If your EDP runs Loop4 you have a little more functions to target
directly (as if it's running Loop3). Check out the listing of note
number per function that comes with the manual and assign pedals to
those function you want to use. Good luck!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast)
http://www.myspace.com/looproom




------=_Part_79520_3588335.1168801118405-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 19:59:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5469F3BED2; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: alice coltrane Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:59:06 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2007-01-14_01:2007-01-12,2007-01-11,2007-01-14 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=1 spamscore=1 ipscore=0 adultscore=1 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0612050001 definitions=main-0701140011 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:59:16 +0000 (UTC) http://www.freejazz.org/?q=node/1854#comment-24757 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 20:51:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF08C3BEDE; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701142051.l0EKpq1v004281@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: NAMM Live Loopers BRUNCH Invitation Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:51:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <45A9BB3A.5000508@hevanet.com> Thread-Index: Acc3mkxsqIzsZWvgT1e5ILbNRrX5ZgAgupsg X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:51:58 +0000 (UTC) I can't speak for Rick or Steve, but I will, in fact, be Demoning the Looperlative at NAMM, Look for my act , I'll be the one dressed all in red with horns, pointy ears, a forked tail, and of course cloven hooves that I'm still getting the hang of operating my FCB1010 pedal with. Oh, and I almost forgot, I'll be transporting my guitars to the gig with coffin cases, naturally... Yours in eternal damnation. Billzebub Walker -----Original Message----- From: David Auker [mailto:davauk@hevanet.com] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:10 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NAMM Live Loopers BRUNCH Invitation RICK WALKER wrote: > We'll be demoning the Looperlative for anyone > who wants to check out this amazing machine on Friday, Saturday and > Sunday. In respect to the Man, this demoning...are we dealing with actual demons, or ...? Have a great demo/lunch/etc, David From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 20:52:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43E1C3BEF6; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AA9A5B.5090600@unguitar.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:02:19 +0100 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: alice coltrane References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:52:47 +0000 (UTC) I hoped the link was not bringing me to that. so sorry to have lost such a visual piano player. Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > http://www.freejazz.org/?q=node/1854#comment-24757 > > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 21:02:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68B803BEDF; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <021001c7381f$3c7f0f10$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <45AA9A5B.5090600@unguitar.com> Subject: Re: alice coltrane & michael brecker Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:01:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:02:06 +0000 (UTC) A lot of sad and unfortunate news in the jazz world these last two days. Michael Brecker died yesterday....amazing saxophonist. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luca Formentini" To: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: Re: alice coltrane >I hoped the link was not bringing me to that. > so sorry to have lost such a visual piano player. > > Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > >> http://www.freejazz.org/?q=node/1854#comment-24757 >> >> >> . >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 21:10:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F8B03BEE6; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AA9C2B.3070105@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:10:03 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: alice coltrane & michael brecker References: <45AA9A5B.5090600@unguitar.com> <021001c7381f$3c7f0f10$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <021001c7381f$3c7f0f10$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Oh man, these are two big losses. I hadn't even known of Michael's illness. Sweeten the aether, bright souls. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > A lot of sad and unfortunate news in the jazz world these last two > days. Michael Brecker died yesterday....amazing saxophonist. > > Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 22:59:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D4E13BEEE; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: teddybutter@mac.com Subject: Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:59:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:59:24 +0000 (UTC) you can just save the guide volume where you want it... along with all the other parameters you want to have "from scratch" and make that a template and copy it to all the free memories. then it always starts where you want... for instance, I don't use the stereo function so I saved a template to all my memories with mono recording enabled. Works great. enjoy Teddy > cazwicky@earthlink.net wrote: > Sure, you can turn it down, but it's a software knob and won't read > the physical position until it is moved. It defaults to FULL BLAST > when you start from scratch... yuk. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 14 23:09:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 655FA3BEDE; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: teddybutter@mac.com Subject: Re: EH 2880 Reverse and Octave Function Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:09:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:09:56 +0000 (UTC) in the RC-50 you can just save the guide volume where you want it... along with all the other parameters you want to have "from scratch" and make that a template and copy it to all the free memories. then it always starts where you want... for instance, I don't use the stereo function so I saved a template to all my memories with mono recording enabled. Works great. enjoy I have both an RC-50 and the 16 second delay. they are both great but for different things. the RC-50 kicks everyone's butt in the straight up parts looping in time with a click department. the EH is better at spaced out pitch crazy whackiness. Teddy PS... sorry for the double post > cazwicky@earthlink.net wrote: > Sure, you can turn it down, but it's a software knob and won't read > the physical position until it is moved. It defaults to FULL BLAST > when you start from scratch... yuk. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 05:35:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1B3E3BEEE; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New CD Release: "Fragments" Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:35:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02BE_01C7382C.489A59A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:35:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02BE_01C7382C.489A59A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on for = some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, package = them, and get it out. Here it is, at last...probably the last CD you'll = see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep end (next stop = is planet Mars). I'll send free copies out to the first five people who = reply to this email. Fragments is a collection of live electro-acoustic performances recorded = at public venues or via the Internet. This free improvisational and = avant-garde work exhibits a balance between the sound of the acoustic = guitar and electronic processing via the notebook computer and various = tone altering effects. Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, = computer-based signal processing More info the CD, including MP3 Samples here: = http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm MP3 Samples The Human Static M=F8rk og Iser Attack of the Mini Tabla Groovy Space Faring Machine Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage Insectoid Moxie Nebula Cheers, Kris *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 ------=_NextPart_000_02BE_01C7382C.489A59A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
This new CD release is a collection of = songs I have=20 been sitting on for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design = the CD,=20 package them, and get it out.  Here it is, at = last...probably the=20 last CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep = end=20 (next stop is planet Mars).  I'll send free copies out to the = first=20 five people who reply to this email.

Fragments is a collection of = live=20 electro-acoustic performances recorded at public venues or via the = Internet.=20 This free improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits a balance = between=20 the sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic processing via the = notebook=20 computer and various tone altering = effects.

Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, = voice,=20 percussion, computer-based signal processing

More info the CD, including MP3 = Samples here:=20 http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm
 

MP3 Samples

The Human Static
M=F8rk og=20 Iser
Attack of the Mini Tabla
Groovy=20 Space Faring Machine
Ghost of=20 Gigantor vs. the Savage
Insectoid=20 Moxie
Nebula

 
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
****************************************************************= **********
Krispen=20 Hartung
www.krispenhartung.com /=20 www.myspace.com/krispenhar= tung
info@krispenhartung.com /=20 1.208.724.5603
------=_NextPart_000_02BE_01C7382C.489A59A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 05:38:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9FC23BEF6; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: 6HbTNI4VM1kgsZ216MPHD0smS5W0FpFKNjiEyL1zamkwgFhpv5KJsF_flRpCZsNa9EHd3Ef4s04c4gSv4evyDdLCoonVn2e.W2HNvSpUSKMSrCsU9vi_2CJaG4QxEcdq3Be4eaVyi_UYKwo- Message-ID: <45AB1352.5030405@infinivert.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:38:26 -0600 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" References: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060900000905070209030307" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0703-0, 01/13/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:38:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060900000905070209030307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Count me in! Krispen Hartung wrote: > Hello all, > > This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on > for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, > package them, and get it out. Here it is, at last...probably the last > CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep end > (next stop is planet Mars). I'll send free copies out to the first > five people who reply to this email. > > /Fragments/ is a collection of live electro-acoustic performances > recorded at public venues or via the Internet. This free > improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits a balance between the > sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic processing via the > notebook computer and various tone altering effects. > > /Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, > computer-based signal processing/ > > More info the CD, including MP3 Samples here: > http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm > > > /MP3 Samples > / > > The Human Static > Mørk og Iser > Attack of the Mini Tabla > Groovy Space Faring Machine > > Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage > > Insectoid Moxie > Nebula > > > Cheers, > > Kris > > ************************************************************************** > Krispen Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com / > www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 --------------060900000905070209030307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Count me in!

Krispen Hartung wrote:
Hello all,
 
This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, package them, and get it out.  Here it is, at last...probably the last CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep end (next stop is planet Mars).  I'll send free copies out to the first five people who reply to this email.

Fragments is a collection of live electro-acoustic performances recorded at public venues or via the Internet. This free improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits a balance between the sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic processing via the notebook computer and various tone altering effects.

Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, computer-based signal processing

More info the CD, including MP3 Samples here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm
 

MP3 Samples

The Human Static
Mørk og Iser
Attack of the Mini Tabla
Groovy Space Faring Machine
Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage
Insectoid Moxie
Nebula

 
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
**************************************************************************
Krispen Hartung
www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603
--------------060900000905070209030307-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 06:35:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F88C3BEF1; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.80] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070115053838.65BB83BEFF@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Alice Coltrane Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:35:03 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2007 06:35:06.0488 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BA37F80:01C7386F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:35:09 +0000 (UTC) I loved Alice's music even more than John's-Journey in Satchidananda,Ptah, Universal Consciousness .The stuff with Tamboura,and bells Rashied alis incredible fluid drumming big fat acoustic bass,and that harp-what a sound.Then Pharoah wailing.I was disappointed in the one w/ Carlos Santana-he didn't seem subtle enough,I should go back and listen to it again. _________________________________________________________________ The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the scoop. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 06:56:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD27A3BEF4; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AB2581.6090004@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:56:01 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" References: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Oh man, count me in for sure, Krispen! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Hello all, > > This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on > for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, > package them, and get it out. Here it is, at last...probably the last > CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep end > (next stop is planet Mars). I'll send free copies out to the first > five people who reply to this email. > > /Fragments/ is a collection of live electro-acoustic performances > recorded at public venues or via the Internet. This free > improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits a balance between the > sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic processing via the > notebook computer and various tone altering effects. > > /Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, > computer-based signal processing/ > > More info the CD, including MP3 Samples here: > http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm > > > /MP3 Samples > / > > The Human Static > Mørk og Iser > Attack of the Mini Tabla > Groovy Space Faring Machine > > Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage > > Insectoid Moxie > Nebula > > > Cheers, > > Kris > > ************************************************************************** > Krispen Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com / > www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 5:40 PM > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 08:27:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E38793BEF6; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1742.69.59.206.219.1168849630.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20070115053838.65BB83BEFF@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:27:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Alice Coltrane From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <_wcGS.A.YXE.hrzqFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:27:13 +0000 (UTC) > > I loved Alice's music even more than John's-Journey in > Satchidananda,Ptah, > Universal Consciousness .The stuff with Tamboura,and bells Rashied alis > incredible fluid drumming big fat acoustic bass,and that harp-what a > sound.Then Pharoah wailing. Yeah, me too. I am arranging "Journey in Satchidananda" for the band in tribute, it's one of the deepest pieces of music I know. I love her organ playing as well. My wife was just telling me about how she hitch-hiked to an Alice Coltrane concert in Portland when she was 18, and what a terrific concert it was. Her last album, Translinear Light, from a year or two ago, was really quite good. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 08:34:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D0763BEF8; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:34:17 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:34:23 +0000 (UTC) At 10:35 PM -0700 1/14/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on >for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, >package them, and get it out. Here it is, at last...probably the >last CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the >deep end (next stop is planet Mars). Dig! Congrats on another fine release, Kris! > I'll send free copies out to the first five people who reply to this email. /me raises hand. :) --m. -- _______ "Now Simulcast on Crazy People's Fillings" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 09:44:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 219973BEF8; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070115094428.75852.qmail@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=z3qE1Cc2UkLIoKxNvpGMPnmaIkplPvV0J1mSeUNSqCw6jL1RYA+dPs0IsRLzrVl+RbNALq0MrBOY2gTwSZ9XxltFNdgD5uGOBXwqpKsKYmPmGE2yF2WeFsOlCT3UjumK5kS9qE4MHI9eMjP1+Ol3OkcCYdmoSusITd2eCED5qSc=; X-YMail-OSG: EUHl5NUVM1lx8dFZh3hMSy8qs9Idb27vcFv3qT2ggTihZH182fqbKjWxhId7lSAmaQ-- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:44:28 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45AB1352.5030405@infinivert.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:44:31 +0000 (UTC) count me in! cheers Luis --- Joshua Carroll wrote: > Count me in! > > Krispen Hartung wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > This new CD release is a collection of songs I > have been sitting on > > for some time, but just haven't had the chance to > design the CD, > > package them, and get it out. Here it is, at > last...probably the last > > CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't > entirely off the deep end > > (next stop is planet Mars). I'll send free copies > out to the first > > five people who reply to this email. > > > > /Fragments/ is a collection of live > electro-acoustic performances > > recorded at public venues or via the Internet. > This free > > improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits a > balance between the > > sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic > processing via the > > notebook computer and various tone altering > effects. > > > > /Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, > voice, percussion, > > computer-based signal processing/ > > > > More info the CD, including MP3 Samples here: > > http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm > > > > > > /MP3 Samples > > / > > > > The Human Static > > > Mørk og Iser > > > Attack of the Mini Tabla > > > Groovy Space Faring Machine > > > > Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage > > > > Insectoid Moxie > > > Nebula > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Kris > > > > > ************************************************************************** > > Krispen Hartung > > www.krispenhartung.com > / > > www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > > > info@krispenhartung.com > / 1.208.724.5603 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? 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Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 13:02:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 951FF3BEF4; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000f01c738a5$571f5920$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: Subject: RIP Michael Brecker Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:01:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <5hn0ZC.A.8iH.Jt3qFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:02:01 +0000 (UTC) 1949-2006. Saxophonist deluxe, and co-developer of the Electronic Wind Instrument. The obit below doesn't mention the Brecker brothers' work with Frank Zappa - listen to "The Purple Lagoon" off of "Zappa in New York" today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1&xml=/news/2007/01/15/db1501.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 13:41:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AD0C3BEF8; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pSb/fjvRWPzWXpuomjYwPy/Ef8NMPLZYlyxCz2SUvDh3SXiCOs5ghZCmxnnHuJTUYoR7hs85GH6mI89Vk+FWNAnGMS3L9vzpQbwlXjSL/7VtQfSRm/F1RK0Qca1cMkVa6U7xDvuqxBpKhQyeGN2uS7pLs8hmAWLrSAY/2jxdrEw= Message-ID: <2fb9e4730701150541v5aab074qd9bdd239a2139845@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:41:43 -0500 From: "Clint Allen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" In-Reply-To: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_66514_27368281.1168868503110" References: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:41:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_66514_27368281.1168868503110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Did I make #5 ??? Big congrats and I hope all is well! Clint p.s. and looking forward to seeing you on Mars.. On 1/15/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > Hello all, > > This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on for > some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, package > them, and get it out. Here it is, at last...probably the last CD you'll = see > from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep end (next stop is > planet Mars). I'll send free copies out to the first five people who rep= ly > to this email. > > *Fragments* is a collection of live electro-acoustic performances recorde= d > at public venues or via the Internet. This free improvisational and > avant-garde work exhibits a balance between the sound of the acoustic gui= tar > and electronic processing via the notebook computer and various tone > altering effects. > > *Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, > computer-based signal processing* > More info the CD, including MP3 Samples here: > http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm > > > *MP3 Samples > * > > The Human Static > M=F8rk og Iser > Attack of the Mini Tabla > Groovy Space Faring Machine > Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage > Insectoid Moxie > Nebula > > Cheers, > > Kris > > *************************************************************************= * > Krispen Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > ------=_Part_66514_27368281.1168868503110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Did I make #5 ???
 
Big congrats and I hope all is well!
 
Clint
 
p.s. and looking forward to seeing you on Mars..

 
On 1/15/07, = Krispen Hartung <khartung@c= ableone.net> wrote:
Hello all,
 
This new CD release is a collection of= songs I have been sitting on for some time, but just haven't had the c= hance to design the CD, package them, and get it out.  Here = it is, at last...probably the last CD you'll see from me for a while th= at isn't entirely off the deep end (next stop is planet Mars). &nb= sp;I'll send free copies out to the first five people who reply to= this email.

Fragments is a collection o= f live electro-acoustic performances recorded at public venues or via the I= nternet. This free improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits a bal= ance between the sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic processing via= the notebook computer and various tone altering effects.

Krispen Hartung - = Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, computer-based signal process= ing

More info the CD, including MP3 Sample= s here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm
 

MP3 Samples

The Human Static
M=F8rk og Iser
Attack of the Mini Tabla
Groovy Space Faring Machine
Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage
Insectoid Moxie
Nebula

 
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
**************************************= ************************************
Krispen Hartung
www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603

------=_Part_66514_27368281.1168868503110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 14:15:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EE483BEFB; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: Bryan.Phil@kraft.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: echoplex for sale Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:14:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C738AF.25DC5A3E" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2007 14:14:17.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[711CBED0:01C738AF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:15:19 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C738AF.25DC5A3E Content-Type: text/plain Ive got a gibson echoplex digital pro plus for sale. loop IV, with footswitch and anvil type rack case for sale. 700.00 for everything. Its in very good shape. everything works perfect. I bought this on a whim last week and really need the money now. best way to get in touch with me is bryanonbass@gmail.com Thanks Bryan ------_=_NextPart_001_01C738AF.25DC5A3E Content-Type: text/html
Ive got a gibson echoplex digital pro plus for sale. loop IV, with footswitch and anvil type rack case for sale.
700.00 for everything.  Its in very good shape. everything works perfect.  I bought this on a whim last week and really need the money now.
 
best way to get in touch with me is bryanonbass@gmail.com
 
Thanks
Bryan
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C738AF.25DC5A3E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 14:46:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4FB23BEF0; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--560463079 Message-Id: From: MD Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:53:01 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:46:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--560463079 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Me too MD On Jan 14, 2007, at 11:35 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Hello all, > =A0 > This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on =20= > for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, =20 > package them,=A0and get it out.=A0=A0Here it is, at last...probably = the last =20 > CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep end = =20 > (next stop is planet Mars).=A0=A0I'll send free copies out to the = first =20 > five people=A0who reply to this email. > > Fragments is a collection of live electro-acoustic performances =20 > recorded at public venues or via the Internet. This free =20 > improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits a=A0balance between the =20= > sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic processing via the =20 > notebook computer and various tone altering effects. > > Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, =20 > computer-based signal processing > More info the CD, including MP3 Samples=A0here: =20 > http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm > =A0 > > MP3 Samples > > The Human Static > M=F8rk og Iser > Attack of the Mini Tabla > Groovy Space Faring Machine > Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage > Insectoid Moxie > Nebula > =A0 > Cheers, > =A0 > Kris > =A0 > = ***********************************************************************=20= > *** > Krispen Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 --Apple-Mail-1--560463079 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Me too MD On Jan 14, 2007, at 11:35 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: ArialHello = all, =A0 ArialThis new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, package them,=A0and get it out.=A0=A0Here it is, at last...probably the last CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep end (next stop is planet Mars).=A0=A0I'll send free copies out to the first five people=A0who = reply to this email. = ArialFragmentsArial is a collection of live electro-acoustic performances recorded at public venues or via the Internet. This free improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits a=A0balance between the sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic processing via the notebook computer and various tone altering effects. ArialKrispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, computer-based signal processing ArialMore info the CD, including MP3 Samples=A0here: = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.krispenhartung.com/fragment= s/index.htm =A0 ArialMP3 = Samples = Verdana0000,0000,EEEEThe Human = Static = Verdana0000,0000,EEEEM=F8rk og = Iser = Verdana0000,0000,EEEEAttack of the Mini = Tabla = Verdana0000,0000,EEEEGroovy Space Faring = Machine = Verdana0000,0000,EEEEGhost of Gigantor vs. the = Savage = Verdana0000,0000,EEEEInsectoid Moxie = Verdana0000,0000,EEEENebula<= /excerpt> =A0 ArialCheers, =A0 ArialKris =A0 = Arial*********************************= ***************************************** ArialKrispen = Hartung = Arial0000,0000,EEEEwww.krispenhartung.com / = 0000,0000,EEEEwww.myspace.com/krispenhartung= = Arial0000,0000,EEEEinfo@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 = --Apple-Mail-1--560463079-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 14:55:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 132483BF0F; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5DH5N5AIAGuEUNE29kz23c06jkR7nSzJew== X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:53:34 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J7e28.4fe0S.4c38M" Message-Id: <20070115.065408.18248.1670998@webmail05.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 1:1:109147249 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.145|webmail05.nyc.untd.com|webmail05.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:55:16 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J7e28.4fe0S.4c38M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain count me in too if I am not too late! ----__JWM__J7e28.4fe0S.4c38M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html count me in too if I am not too late! ----__JWM__J7e28.4fe0S.4c38M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 14:56:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B29A63BF17; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: Bryan.Phil@kraft.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: New CD Release: "Fragments" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:55:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C738B5.42340A32" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2007 14:55:56.0116 (UTC) FILETIME=[429CD940:01C738B5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:56:58 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C738B5.42340A32 Content-Type: text/plain me too, if you didn't met my email. Bryan Phil (973) 503-2737 _____ From: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [mailto:Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com] On Behalf Of Weg Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:55 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" count me in too if I am not too late! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C738B5.42340A32 Content-Type: text/html
me too, if you didn't met my email.
 
Bryan Phil
(973) 503-2737
 


From: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [mailto:Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com] On Behalf Of Weg
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count me in too if I am not too late! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C738B5.42340A32-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 15:11:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB7AE3BF0D; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=CZiumaIHCSDHxA3YHd/4hpq3M1eGk1np4z/lCpTRm8/p93oiM7WFi3EzNIDJ4Xitp8tEmy4df2i+XVHY7jq5P84oaa/ITlBfUmftlIKXRKj2cSE6xXwBi1QA9UlOTchoW76l452CaCzDfpKbs4+WZ1gR/42S8McpZCrdaz1bPQs= Reply-To: From: "Miles Ward" To: Subject: RE: RIP Michael Brecker Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 07:14:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <000f01c738a5$571f5920$0207a8c0@eluk1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc4pV8fvXZrkndDTUWSKA1kIsC1GAAEkx1w Message-ID: <45ab99a9.1a9d25e3.6e38.3fdb@mx.google.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:11:40 +0000 (UTC) That's a horrible loss to funkyness everywhere. I saw him live with Herbie Hancock and my booty will never be the same. First JB, and now this? What is up with 2k7? -Miles -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:02 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RIP Michael Brecker 1949-2006. Saxophonist deluxe, and co-developer of the Electronic Wind Instrument. The obit below doesn't mention the Brecker brothers' work with Frank Zappa - listen to "The Purple Lagoon" off of "Zappa in New York" today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1&xml=/news/20 07/01/15/db1501.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 15:31:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F3A93BF1E; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <018001c738ba$19127120$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:30:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017D_01C738C2.7AA98790" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2007 15:30:36.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A68B250:01C738BA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:31:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_017D_01C738C2.7AA98790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and me.... fabio ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:35 AM Subject: New CD Release: "Fragments" Hello all, This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on = for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, package = them, and get it out. Here it is, at last...probably the last CD you'll = see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep end (next stop = is planet Mars). I'll send free copies out to the first five people who = reply to this email. Fragments is a collection of live electro-acoustic performances = recorded at public venues or via the Internet. This free improvisational = and avant-garde work exhibits a balance between the sound of the = acoustic guitar and electronic processing via the notebook computer and = various tone altering effects. Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, = computer-based signal processing More info the CD, including MP3 Samples here: = http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm MP3 Samples The Human Static M=F8rk og Iser Attack of the Mini Tabla Groovy Space Faring Machine Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage Insectoid Moxie Nebula Cheers, Kris = *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/628 - Release Date: = 15/01/2007 11.04 ------=_NextPart_000_017D_01C738C2.7AA98790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
and me....
fabio
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
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Subject: New CD Release:=20 "Fragments"

Hello all,
 
This new CD release is a collection = of songs I=20 have been sitting on for some time, but just haven't had the chance to = design=20 the CD, package them, and get it out.  Here it is, at=20 last...probably the last CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't = entirely=20 off the deep end (next stop is planet Mars).  I'll send free = copies=20 out to the first five people who reply to this = email.

Fragments is a collection = of live=20 electro-acoustic performances recorded at public venues or via the = Internet.=20 This free improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits a balance = between=20 the sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic processing via the = notebook=20 computer and various tone altering = effects.

Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, = voice,=20 percussion, computer-based signal processing

More info the CD, including MP3=20 Samples here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm
 

MP3 Samples

The Human Static
M=F8rk og=20 Iser
Attack of the Mini Tabla
Groovy=20 Space Faring Machine
Ghost of=20 Gigantor vs. the Savage
Insectoid=20 Moxie
Nebula

 
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
****************************************************************= **********
Krispen=20 Hartung
www.krispenhartung.com=20 / www.myspace.com/krispenhar= tung
info@krispenhartung.com /=20 1.208.724.5603


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------=_NextPart_000_017D_01C738C2.7AA98790-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 15:36:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 812F63BF1A; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <1742.69.59.206.219.1168849630.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <20070115053838.65BB83BEFF@arsenic.violacea.com> <1742.69.59.206.219.1168849630.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <02e5cf4357f0182fbc61c01c26a52df1@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: Alice Coltrane Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:34:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2007-01-15_11:2007-01-15,2007-01-15,2007-01-15 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0612050001 definitions=main-0701150041 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:36:15 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 15, 2007, at 1:27 AM, improv@peak.org wrote: > > Yeah, me too. I am arranging "Journey in Satchidananda" for the band in > tribute, it's one of the deepest pieces of music I know. I love her > organ > playing as well. Good choice - Pharoah's plaintive playing/ tone/ phrasing on that piece, in particular, is beautiful. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 15:57:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEC513BF05; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <1742.69.59.206.219.1168849630.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <20070115053838.65BB83BEFF@arsenic.violacea.com> <1742.69.59.206.219.1168849630.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5e47727295e97daffa61f46192a292d1@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: Alice Coltrane Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:56:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2007-01-15_11:2007-01-15,2007-01-15,2007-01-15 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0612050001 definitions=main-0701150043 Resent-Message-ID: <6jqD1C.A.WU.PR6qFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:57:03 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 15, 2007, at 1:27 AM, improv@peak.org wrote: > Yeah, me too. I am arranging "Journey in Satchidananda" for the band in > tribute, it's one of the deepest pieces of music I know. Makes for a cool solo loop piece too. For my art gallery gigs I'll sometimes I'll bring in/ loop that bass line underneath a "soundscape" (still okay to use that word?), fade the scape, quote the Sanders part and go from there. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 16:57:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D81443BEF8; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=utyZ9BT16c0CVLuhf32FRLFbjUxUqvh7xewEapmX1F1BDrwtZD0b9Nhm7EuxR3VscyguzqOPKraDAya8OS50qw6GaGoR/HRzgHMfpBVgnEtZVZiW0MayBEjE8ES10wqfbKnJ+aZncHHd7xvkJ91ZmE4QrkqMdi/jnmBGqiUdVzg= Message-ID: <9e0440a60701150857k1a8ceb9crde08ff50f0e4c79b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:57:48 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_69215_6251641.1168880268125" References: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <0J4h_.A.zSD.NK7qFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:57:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_69215_6251641.1168880268125 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Kris congrads on releasing a body of work, always a major feeling. I'll be happy to trade you a copy of my last official solo recording "Stories My Guitar Told Me" if you are open, would also extend that offer to anyone else on the list with new or current work they might want to trade. I've done 3 official solo guitar CD's more acoustic in nature than experimental, the latter being new directions meaning the genre. I will say "Stories..." was moving in technical directions for me... Anyhow cheers to all - hope to meet some of you at the upcoming NAMM show in Anaheim, looking fwd to who all will be at the Sunday gathering... Sad about Mr B just read the UK obit... Jim On 1/15/07, mech wrote: > > At 10:35 PM -0700 1/14/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > >This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on > >for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, > >package them, and get it out. Here it is, at last...probably the > >last CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the > >deep end (next stop is planet Mars). > > Dig! Congrats on another fine release, Kris! > > > I'll send free copies out to the first five people who reply to this > email. > > /me raises hand. :) > > --m. > > -- > _______ > "Now Simulcast on Crazy People's Fillings" > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodin.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_69215_6251641.1168880268125 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Kris congrads on releasing a body of work, always a major feeling.  I'll be happy to trade you a copy of my last official solo recording "Stories My Guitar Told Me" if you are open, would also extend that offer to anyone else on the list with new or current work they might want to trade.  I've done 3 official solo guitar CD's more acoustic in nature than experimental, the latter being new directions meaning the genre.  I will say "Stories..." was moving in technical directions for me...
 
Anyhow cheers to all - hope to meet some of you at the upcoming NAMM show in Anaheim, looking fwd to who all will be at the Sunday gathering...
 
Sad about Mr B just read the UK obit...
 
Jim

 
On 1/15/07, mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
At 10:35 PM -0700 1/14/07, Krispen Hartung wrote:
>
>This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on
>for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD,
>package them, and get it out.  Here it is, at last...probably the
>last CD you'll see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the
>deep end (next stop is planet Mars).

Dig!  Congrats on another fine release, Kris!

>  I'll send free copies out to the first five people who reply to this email.

/me raises hand.  :)

       --m.

--
_______
"Now Simulcast on Crazy People's Fillings"




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodin.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere
Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com
The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

Associates and friends on the web -
Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_69215_6251641.1168880268125-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 15 23:23:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38FB03BEF0; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Pw1jDdpk3ntqDHIW+kftdlA260wApqfAQsI+JPgS0guJEPaCOmMeONdvVznGkgZRwIZ96Jx4JFWmdVKIYQSxD085FGDiE4HENEd2v4OMfJ0lDE00cYTPgK3KT4IGaqBbCiv9GPhoOPEURYl7BqjzX7Bntk8Wl29iYhJFD05l0uc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:23:08 -0800 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cuong Vu (was John Hassell) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Ted Killian was like: > As much as I really, really, really LOVE Jon Hassell's music . . . and I do= > . > Keep an eye on Vietnamese-American trumpeter Cuong Vu. Cuong Vu - just saw the name pop up on emusic last week. After this message I'll make sure to take a listen: http://www.emusic.com/artist/11529/11529083.html (You can click on the little speaker icon next to the albums to hear 30 second samples of all the songs by streaming mp3.) I love emusic. Being the total music hog I am it turns out to be a big money saver. If you do the math, downloads amount to about $.30 per song, and it's not in some proprietary format like Itunes. The downside is that many record labels don't like the mp3 format, so the selection is smaller. Krispen Hartung has a disc up there: http://www.emusic.com/artist/11681/11681271.html And I have a few: http://www.emusic.com/artist/11599/11599948.html Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com > > He's "the next generation" . . . I think (IMOHO). > > And he's an awesome looper to.=20 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 00:03:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2ECAB3BEF4; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AC1633.20909@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:02:59 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: emusic (was Cuong Vu (was John Hassell) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Between eMusic and Rhapsody (streaming service), for a total of $20 a month I can stay pretty well on top of new stuff, as well as have access to classic things I've never checked out. I don't have a good record store where I am, so these sites are lifesavers. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Ted Killian was like: >> As much as I really, really, really LOVE Jon Hassell's music . . . >> and I do= >> . >> Keep an eye on Vietnamese-American trumpeter Cuong Vu. > > Cuong Vu - just saw the name pop up on emusic last week. After this > message I'll make sure to take a listen: > http://www.emusic.com/artist/11529/11529083.html > (You can click on the little speaker icon next to the albums to hear > 30 second samples of all the songs by streaming mp3.) > > I love emusic. Being the total music hog I am it turns out to be a big > money saver. If you do the math, downloads amount to about $.30 per > song, and it's not in some proprietary format like Itunes. The > downside is that many record labels don't like the mp3 format, so the > selection is smaller. > > Krispen Hartung has a disc up there: > http://www.emusic.com/artist/11681/11681271.html > > And I have a few: > http://www.emusic.com/artist/11599/11599948.html > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 00:21:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9F7A3BF02; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:20:26 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: electro-music 2007 To: Loopers Delight Mailing List Cc: Greg Waltzer , Howard Moscovitz Message-id: <45AC1A4A.1090001@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Forwarded by request and because many who attend use loopers.

Cheers,

Bill

-------- Original Message --------
We proudly announce electro-music 2007(TM), a three day conference/music festival to be held at the Cheltenham Art Center in Philadelphia, June 1 - 3, 2007. The program will include lectures, demos, jam sessions, and concerts.

The scope of this festival is very broad, covering all aspects of electro-music, experimental electronic music, including circuit bending, computer music, electro-jazz, modular synthesis, musique concrete, improvisation, algorithmic composition, multi-media, visual art and much more. The focus will be on participant involvement, sharing, community development, audience education, and great music.

If you would like to participate in electro-music 2007 by giving a musical or visual performance, seminar, workshop, or demonstration, please contact us at event@electro-music.com
Guidelines for participants can be found here
Please note that all participants are required to purchase tickets for the event.

electro-music 2007 will build on the success of the previous electro-music events in 2005 and 2006. The participants at those events felt it was a ground-breaking and inspirational experience. Check out the short film, photos and read the testimonials. We expect many of the artists who were at the earlier events to return this year, along with some interesting and talented newcomers.

The Cheltenham Art Center is a beautiful building with a relaxed and informal ambience, located in a secluded wooded section of Philadelphia. We'll have two excellent concert venues and additional rooms for our activities during the full three days. The Art Center is accessible by public transportation (bus and train) from central Philadelphia.

TICKETS

Short Film about the event and our electro-music community

FORUM

PHOTOS

TESTIMONIALS
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 00:52:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 943FF3BEF8; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Zl1Z60LLtX/06vqsCwmOXvkqjj7MLjgLRjg3vJygCnnpwVS0aq3Vaxii0SXIPlk/79Ec/OybOCjq9UUSomHloglISlB3KhM8m99N3eNXiJjEarhdrB7gK0eX7BG0y+gI0tV7ENEUkf9nsWPoJKyUOR+wUVKItn5f8lrixBkN/b8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45AC1633.20909@mhorse.com> References: <45AC1633.20909@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2D6399D9-3EF6-4E52-A239-0F97CC13589B@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: emusic (was Cuong Vu (was John Hassell) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:52:48 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <4SAM4D.A.a7G.lHCrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:52:53 +0000 (UTC) I have always sympathized with eMusic. When they started in April 1998 I was busy writing a book (in Swedish) on digital online music distribution, so I had a strong interest in keeping an eye on their experiment. eMusic started under the name "Goodnoise" and was self proclaimed as "The Internet Record Company". The web site looked like a magazine and all they did was publishing new on artists like Nine Inch Nails and Garbage. I sent them letters to ask what they were up to (because that "The Internet Record Company" kept puzzling me) but they kept the secret by heart. David Weekly http://david.weekly.org/ was writing on the same topic as I, but in English, and he told me that he recognized some of the early names behind "Goodnoise" as key people in a company called PGP, Pretty Good Privacy, that was working with digital encryption. I thought that was both funny and typical; these software guys new what was going to happen and they set out to be pioneers in selling music content in a DRM free format. Then Warp Record launched their web shop http://www.bleep.com/ as the first traditional Record Label to sell music digitally in an open format. Warp offered new music as mp3 together with mp3 files of the normal vinyl records they were already famous for bringing out. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 03:20:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B05F3BEE2; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=sIpQZ5EzPrioW98rmnmsMuNCkv2MXsmQqe52deHVwHOVO+wavlQzrGBNyM2+FAtP; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; From: "ejyuhas" To: Subject: NJ - NY Gig Spam...Peter Biedermann & White Light Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:20:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C738F3.54710590" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acc5HTu7yWBTA8n0Rwq6Fund6p4gxw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: 22b7a950aa3e6c4dd780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc914dcea250cb618ab752321b19dd5849350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.34.62.65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:20:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C738F3.54710590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all. My good friend and looper extraordinaire is Peter, so I decided to post this here for him. He is not to be missed if you live in the area!! Here are a couple of shows that may be of interest to you... SATURDAY - JANUARY 20, 2007 THE DANCING GOAT 21 South Orange Avenue South Orange, New Jersey 07079 (973) 275-9000 http://thegoatcafe.typepad.com/the_goat_cafe/ Admission: $15 7:30 p.m. SATURDAY - JANUARY 27, 2007 THE MONKEY 37 West 26th Street, Suite 1201 (between Broadway and 6th Ave) New York, NY 10010 (212) 481-1601 Tickets are available online for $15 @ http://www.themonkeynyc.com/ 8:00 p.m. A new CD White Light...Live...coming to a theater near you... Will be available at the shows. White Light is: Peter Biedermann: Acoustic & electric guitars, loops, devices Steve Meltzer: Drums, Roland Handsonic, loops Jim Stagnitto: Trumpet, loops, laptop Cheers mates... Peter http://www.peterbiedermann.com/ http://www.homegrownradionj.com/ "Sound In The Head" internet radio show - Wednesday's 9:00 p.m. - midnight ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C738F3.54710590 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all…

 

My good friend and looper extraordinaire is Peter, so = I decided to post this here for him. He is not to be missed if you live in = the area!!

 

Here are a couple of shows that may be of = interest to you...

 

SATURDAY - JANUARY 20, = 2007

 

THE DANCING = GOAT

21 = South Orange Avenue

South = Orange, New Jersey 07079

(973) 275-9000

http://thegoatcafe.typepad.com/the_goat_cafe/<= /span>

Admission: $15

7:30 p.m.

 

 

SATURDAY - JANUARY 27, = 2007

 

THE MONKEY

37 = West 26th Street, Suite 1201

(between Broadway and 6th Ave)

New = York, NY 10010

(212) 481-1601

Tickets are available online for = $15 @

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8:00 p.m.

 

A new CD White Light...Live...coming to a theater near = you...

Will be available at the = shows.

 

White Light = is:

 

Peter Biedermann: Acoustic & electric guitars, = loops, devices

Steve Meltzer: Drums, Roland Handsonic, = loops

Jim Stagnitto: Trumpet, loops, = laptop

 

Cheers mates...

 

Peter

 

http://www.peterbiedermann.com/

 

http://www.homegrownradionj.com/

"Sound In The Head" internet radio show - Wednesday's 9:00 p.m. - midnight

 

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C738F3.54710590-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 05:59:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AA843BEE2; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: scott@dreamstate.to via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.064917 secs) Message-ID: <1397.65.94.55.252.1168927196.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: <2D6399D9-3EF6-4E52-A239-0F97CC13589B@gmail.com> References: <45AC1633.20909@mhorse.com> <2D6399D9-3EF6-4E52-A239-0F97CC13589B@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:59:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: OT - Nord Modular group From: scott@dreamstate.to To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <9NnM4.A.G5H.XnGrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Some years back I belonged to a very active Nord Modular e-mail group but now I can't track it down. Can anyone point me to an active (English-speaking) group? Thanks, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 11:15:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6A0E3BED8; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <001501c7395f$a72e1540$4001a8c0@mini> From: "CV" To: References: <45AC1633.20909@mhorse.com> <2D6399D9-3EF6-4E52-A239-0F97CC13589B@gmail.com> <1397.65.94.55.252.1168927196.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> Subject: Re: OT - Nord Modular group Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:15:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:15:43 +0000 (UTC) it migrated to http://electro-music.com/forum/ lots of other very intelligent forums Claude ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:59 AM Subject: OT - Nord Modular group Some years back I belonged to a very active Nord Modular e-mail group but now I can't track it down. Can anyone point me to an active (English-speaking) group? Thanks, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 12:56:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5155B3BEF1; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1ebf01c7396d$ac563da0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: Subject: Brian Eno news Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:56:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1EBC_01C73976.0DE16D30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2007 12:56:00.0757 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC41F250:01C7396D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:56:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1EBC_01C73976.0DE16D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you who are interested, check = http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=3D71836 about the work = in progress by Brian Eno, in unusual territories (as usual..) fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ------=_NextPart_000_1EBC_01C73976.0DE16D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For those of you who = are=20 interested, check  http://w= ww.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=3D71836 about=20 the work in progress by Brian Eno, in unusual territories (as=20 usual..)
 
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http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/
www.myspace.com/eterogeneo
 
------=_NextPart_000_1EBC_01C73976.0DE16D30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 14:38:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 493613BED9; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=CMJv/vidNBezA6bMtTrlfWGJr+kHJJNJJS+HqVDMFLof9u9xrtf87jDXS6sOQn/dDO593lkp7xvrPTe5GBm47/+nV/cSIYP61UaCGq15NQqJHfpzbUJcVOcVcZNeVArwelHrNVibMr+pRi+QImubAPdw7gcFSuV51iHpxfZhc1g= Message-ID: <9e0440a60701160637y43278544g71a9934e3885f191@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:37:36 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com Subject: California bound MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_83414_25013597.1168958256992" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:38:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_83414_25013597.1168958256992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just a last minute note to pass along that I'm heading out to southern California this Thursday for a *Jim Goodin & GHS Strings/Sam Ash*performance and for the winter NAMM show (1/18-21). The winter *National Association of Music Merchants* is a bi-annual gathering (Anaheim winter and Nashville/Austin summer) of musical products manufacturers, retail as well as all kinds of industry off-shoots including musicians like myself who have music product endorsements. I'll be attending in support of my relationships with GHS Strings , Seagull Guitars and my publisher Mel Bay Publications, Inc. , as well as doing a tremendous amount of marketing/networking with other artists while there. For those southern CA members as well as friends/family of those local here in the east on my e-list, my LA-area performance is this Thursday evening (1/18) at 7pm in Puente Hills/City of Industry, CA at Sam Ash Music . This will be a clinic performance which means it's both a performance of my music and presents opportunities to learn about *GHS Strings* as well as gain some perspective for those that play guitar on what I do. There will be free *GHS String* samples for those attending and opportunities to win some very cool *GHS* wearables. Special thanks to Bill Borjan, TJ Milian and Sammy Ash at Sam Ash Music for their hosting my event as well as to Dave Cowles and Ben Cole at GHS for their on-going support. The Puente Hills Sam Ash is located at 18031 Gale Avenue in the City of Industry (LA area). More news when I return including updates on my work with the Chinapaintingproject with Daryl Shawn , composer/guitarist living in Mexico. As always visit http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com for music samples, purchase CD's and iTunes downloads and other info, and visit my various projects on My Space and *videos* on YouTube as follows... http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic http://www.myspace.com/languageof3 http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinsoundscapes http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Jim+Goodin All good things... Jim -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_83414_25013597.1168958256992 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Just a last minute note to pass along that I'm heading out to southern California this Thursday for a Jim Goodin & GHS Strings/Sam Ash performance and for the winter NAMM show (1/18-21).  The winter National Association of Music Merchants is a bi-annual gathering (Anaheim winter and Nashville/Austin summer) of musical products manufacturers, retail as well as all kinds of industry off-shoots including musicians like myself who have music product endorsements.  I'll be attending in support of my relationships with GHS Strings Seagull Guitars and my publisher Mel Bay Publications, Inc., as well as doing a tremendous amount of marketing/networking with other artists while there.
 
For those southern CA members as well as friends/family of those local here in the east on my e-list, my LA-area performance is this Thursday evening (1/18) at 7pm in Puente Hills/City of Industry, CA at Sam Ash Music .  This will be a clinic performance which means it's both a performance of my music and presents opportunities to learn about GHS Strings as well as gain some perspective for those that play guitar on what I do.  There will be free GHS String samples for those attending and opportunities to win some very cool GHS wearables.  Special thanks to Bill Borjan, TJ Milian and Sammy Ash at Sam Ash Music for their hosting my event as well as to Dave Cowles and Ben Cole at GHS for their on-going support.  The Puente Hills Sam Ash is located at 18031 Gale Avenue in the City of Industry (LA area).
More news when I return including updates on my work with the Chinapainting project with Daryl Shawn, composer/guitarist living in Mexico.  As always visit http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com for music samples, purchase CD's and iTunes downloads and other info, and visit my various projects on My Space and videos on YouTube as follows...
 
 
All good things...
 
Jim
--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere
Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com
The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

Associates and friends on the web -
Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com
------=_Part_83414_25013597.1168958256992-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 15:35:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 693F23BED8; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=WZel+vKiGJSaLEM5mUCfNUn6r4fAS+gX12AKcgLL7WjlUelozfbwEnx2EO3wupBxlO5txaLOyILPpn9MsaJl6adm9T8oSP7FohhspzHaeexjBeAyJRESjMtlhGPbJjTCNSzbQjcbc/U9en4LeWqcH5aWOhF7cNGrD7I9PzRlnHk= In-Reply-To: <1ebf01c7396d$ac563da0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> References: <1ebf01c7396d$ac563da0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <79538EF6-7B85-4B20-91EF-F2FB88CF46D5@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Brian Eno news Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:35:07 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:35:23 +0000 (UTC) On 16 jan 2007, at 13.56, Fabio Anile wrote: > For those of you who are interested, check http:// > www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=71836 about the work in > progress by Brian Eno, in unusual territories (as usual..) I'm no gamer myself, but my kids are and my oldest son gave me a mind- blowing briefing on the upcoming computer game Spore, that Eno is creating music for according to that linked article. Spore will be a "generative online computer game" so the equivalence to generative music in Eno's hands is just perfect! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 17:20:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE1913BEF4; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Zoe Keating Subject: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:20:36 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: e40732f8-a585-11db-b4dc-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtcZFU0Dlt1 UkhJRUJTEw9qARYF B1AZUwdwdQdYcXdu ZEFkQXJeXkFldQgh Qjksbj9XAmdlaWYc WA5ZdwNTPlZOfhhG aAZ3SSIIaWAaZ3s0 FUo5Yzw6eG0HcX0F Hw1Wcg0ZSFAmAyQ7 Xx0LG300HUoaXG0s LgAmYn8ZG0kcNA0S PFI5MWVf X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:523/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Hello Loopers! For those of you over on the other side of the Atlantic - I'll be opening up for Imogen Heap for her short European tour. I'm debuting my latest looping method, which allows me to record 12 tracks (I previously had 8) with only about half the tap dancing I used to do. Plus, Imogen is a skilled Repeater performer. If anyone comes, do come say hello to me after the show. Thanks much, Zoe 25th Jan - Hamburg, DE Ubel & Gefahrlich 26th Jan - Copenhagen, DK Small Vega 27th - Berlin, DE Frannz Club 29th Jan - Cologne, DE Prime Club 31st Jan - Milan, IT La Casa 139 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 17:27:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58EA83BEF8; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1f8c01c73993$918f93b0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:27:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2007 17:27:16.0946 (UTC) FILETIME=[919F4B20:01C73993] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:27:20 +0000 (UTC) I'll wait for you in Rome, next time, Zoe Have a good tour ! fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zoe Keating" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: European shows with Imogen Heap > Hello Loopers! > > For those of you over on the other side of the Atlantic - I'll be opening > up for Imogen Heap for her short European tour. I'm debuting my latest > looping method, which allows me to record 12 tracks (I previously had 8) > with only about half the tap dancing I used to do. Plus, Imogen is a > skilled Repeater performer. > > If anyone comes, do come say hello to me after the show. > > Thanks much, Zoe > > > 25th Jan - Hamburg, DE > Ubel & Gefahrlich > > 26th Jan - Copenhagen, DK > Small Vega > > 27th - Berlin, DE > Frannz Club > > 29th Jan - Cologne, DE > Prime Club > > 31st Jan - Milan, IT > La Casa 139 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: > 16/01/2007 8.25 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 17:29:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06D243BEDD; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=nnyCufHhx/mLS+tkLwwzXg35/2VIiZ8tkKU5OZ3GF7WTlMGzDoOoze6u5f9g9j6GXuDFuQsNiykUTzRB9UvXymBtB9Z4we0zt4GfzLv9s6jz1dornDGx7HiynZaZofkofTt20RJ634EeXKY2O4CcCNW/rgU9YUI86jybgp0eC9c= In-Reply-To: <1f8c01c73993$918f93b0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> <1f8c01c73993$918f93b0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <16BC1E60-1B3A-4117-A488-A9014BC8B649@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:29:05 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:29:34 +0000 (UTC) On 16 jan 2007, at 18.27, Fabio Anile wrote: > I'll wait for you in Rome, next time, Zoe Stockholm! ;-) > Have a good tour ! Indeed! per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 17:34:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 762A03BF0F; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AD0CAE.7070102@infinivert.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:34:38 -0600 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0703-1, 01/15/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-Information: http://wtxs.net/support/spam.php Please contact the Texas Communications at 800-299-6962 for more information X-TexComm-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TexComm-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: josh@infinivert.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Wow... If I could afford the plane ticket, I'd be there. Any chances for a US tour? --Josh Zoe Keating wrote: > Hello Loopers! > > For those of you over on the other side of the Atlantic - I'll be > opening up for Imogen Heap for her short European tour. I'm debuting > my latest looping method, which allows me to record 12 tracks (I > previously had 8) with only about half the tap dancing I used to do. > Plus, Imogen is a skilled Repeater performer. > > If anyone comes, do come say hello to me after the show. > > Thanks much, Zoe > > > 25th Jan - Hamburg, DE > Ubel & Gefahrlich > > 26th Jan - Copenhagen, DK > Small Vega > > 27th - Berlin, DE > Frannz Club > > 29th Jan - Cologne, DE > Prime Club > > 31st Jan - Milan, IT > La Casa 139 > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 17:59:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 052ED3BEFB; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <45AD0CAE.7070102@infinivert.com> References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> <45AD0CAE.7070102@infinivert.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: teddybutter@mac.com Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:59:07 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Imogen just did a little US tour, my friend rob was playing bass for her. hopefully Zoe will get to the US some other way. Teddy On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Joshua Carroll wrote: > Wow... If I could afford the plane ticket, I'd be there. Any > chances for a US tour? > > --Josh > > > > Zoe Keating wrote: >> Hello Loopers! >> >> For those of you over on the other side of the Atlantic - I'll be >> opening up for Imogen Heap for her short European tour. I'm >> debuting my latest looping method, which allows me to record 12 >> tracks (I previously had 8) with only about half the tap dancing I >> used to do. Plus, Imogen is a skilled Repeater performer. >> >> If anyone comes, do come say hello to me after the show. >> >> Thanks much, Zoe >> >> >> 25th Jan - Hamburg, DE >> Ubel & Gefahrlich >> >> 26th Jan - Copenhagen, DK >> Small Vega >> >> 27th - Berlin, DE >> Frannz Club >> >> 29th Jan - Cologne, DE >> Prime Club >> >> 31st Jan - Milan, IT >> La Casa 139 -- PS. -- check out the latest from my hippe dance music band mister shifty -- visit teddybut on my space -- new teddybut cd "The Man" is available online at cd baby -- Teddybut- "The Man" is part of the rotation at Harris Radio -- Interviews -- http://www.teddybut.com Kumpelstiltskin Music, Inc. Brooklyn, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 18:13:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB15C3BEFC; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <45AD0CAE.7070102@infinivert.com> References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> <45AD0CAE.7070102@infinivert.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <87F16A16-5D1E-434B-B671-5023E30B221B@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:13:11 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: 3b495573-a58d-11db-b4dc-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtcZFU0Dlt1 UkhJRUJTHA9pAhYA AlAZUwdwdQdYcXdu ZEFkQXJeXkFldQgh QjktYR58JmdoaGQd Vw5ZcgpXPgAYehZA b1d8SSIIaTEaZ3s0 FUo5Yzw6eG0HcX0F Hw1Wcg0ZSFAxE2x0 ag0YGi0iFEtNXCU0 MAduNV8AHA4wN0I9 PF1peV8RK3dp X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:523/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:13:16 +0000 (UTC) no more tours for a bit i'm afraid... i'm trying to finish my record and imogen just got through a year of touring the us. but ya never know...things change!! -z On Jan 16, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Joshua Carroll wrote: > Wow... If I could afford the plane ticket, I'd be there. Any > chances for a US tour? > > --Josh > > > > Zoe Keating wrote: >> Hello Loopers! >> >> For those of you over on the other side of the Atlantic - I'll be >> opening up for Imogen Heap for her short European tour. I'm >> debuting my latest looping method, which allows me to record 12 >> tracks (I previously had 8) with only about half the tap dancing I >> used to do. Plus, Imogen is a skilled Repeater performer. >> >> If anyone comes, do come say hello to me after the show. >> >> Thanks much, Zoe >> >> >> 25th Jan - Hamburg, DE >> Ubel & Gefahrlich >> >> 26th Jan - Copenhagen, DK >> Small Vega >> >> 27th - Berlin, DE >> Frannz Club >> >> 29th Jan - Cologne, DE >> Prime Club >> >> 31st Jan - Milan, IT >> La Casa 139 >> >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 18:16:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DF7D3BF0C; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <87F16A16-5D1E-434B-B671-5023E30B221B@zoekeating.com> References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> <45AD0CAE.7070102@infinivert.com> <87F16A16-5D1E-434B-B671-5023E30B221B@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: teddybutter@mac.com Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:16:31 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Zoe... do you have a link to your music? Teddy On Jan 16, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > no more tours for a bit i'm afraid... > > i'm trying to finish my record and imogen just got through a year > of touring the us. > > but ya never know...things change!! > > -z > > On Jan 16, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Joshua Carroll wrote: > >> Wow... If I could afford the plane ticket, I'd be there. Any >> chances for a US tour? >> >> --Josh >> >> >> >> Zoe Keating wrote: >>> Hello Loopers! >>> >>> For those of you over on the other side of the Atlantic - I'll be >>> opening up for Imogen Heap for her short European tour. I'm >>> debuting my latest looping method, which allows me to record 12 >>> tracks (I previously had 8) with only about half the tap dancing >>> I used to do. Plus, Imogen is a skilled Repeater performer. >>> >>> If anyone comes, do come say hello to me after the show. >>> >>> Thanks much, Zoe >>> >>> >>> 25th Jan - Hamburg, DE >>> Ubel & Gefahrlich >>> >>> 26th Jan - Copenhagen, DK >>> Small Vega >>> >>> 27th - Berlin, DE >>> Frannz Club >>> >>> 29th Jan - Cologne, DE >>> Prime Club >>> >>> 31st Jan - Milan, IT >>> La Casa 139 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 18:19:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A72753BF02; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <200101c7399a$e0183c60$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:19:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2007 18:19:34.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF9FD810:01C7399A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:19:56 +0000 (UTC) > Zoe Keating wrote: I'm debuting my latest looping method, which allows me to record 12 tracks (I previously had 8) with only about half the tap dancing I used to do. Can you tell us more about your 12 track looping set up ? Thanks fabio From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 18:33:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55D033BEFF; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:43:44 +0100 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <048n1B.A.onB.JqRrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Hallo, I need to find a simple way ( for me and the users) to upload an audio file (mp3) of some premaster songs. I need it to make a few people listen to those tracks ( streaming or download). It has to allow streaming or listening without the need for the user to subscribe or create accounts and go through specific procedures. Does exist a way to do it without using ftps ? thanks, Luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 18:39:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4F133BEFE; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qOPLO+W/DElp7OcNzACtDk0MO34P+rhtnUbzl8fLwYvEQ+juQQzJwEoNJ30yfyaDszD00X7wsoR/tCnQTFmOUBvn3X3fcMyZjCt/iJJ91IbspgkwpzzE+vsykKy51zdFdtcT29GqWOnfzRQKCiVVj9igBx30R1t9y03To/IqfMg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:39:49 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening In-Reply-To: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_136468_32174865.1168972789951" References: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:39:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_136468_32174865.1168972789951 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline There's this thing called "myspace",,,, On 1/16/07, Luca Formentini wrote: > > Hallo, > I need to find a simple way ( for me and the users) to upload an audio > file (mp3) of some premaster songs. > I need it to make a few people listen to those tracks ( streaming or > download). > It has to allow streaming or listening without the need for the user to > subscribe or create accounts and go through specific procedures. > > Does exist a way to do it without using ftps ? > thanks, > Luca > > ------=_Part_136468_32174865.1168972789951 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline There's this thing called "myspace",,,,

On 1/16/07, Luca Formentini <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
Hallo,
I need to find a simple way ( for me and the users) to upload an audio
file (mp3) of some premaster songs.
I need it to make a few people listen to those tracks ( streaming or
download).
It has to allow streaming or listening without the need for the user to
subscribe or create accounts and go through specific procedures.

Does exist a way to do it without using ftps ?
thanks,
Luca


------=_Part_136468_32174865.1168972789951-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 18:40:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0C333BF1E; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=S8kZkWqhU7vFA7SWiH6B2OpwzfCZCcMizDJ9LiOOmR3TjDlaZ/IOi08c/8bcJ5c+MS8BgmsPFZD3cfKm0IoJ0aXZx4cpZ8XUIjISDZ4UEk4Muion1tU83T6Jv0VO6PVTDm7B4gxIE9QRzsjahbHkT60bvuaJakBrhDrZWD2q/Jw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> References: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:40:24 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:40:39 +0000 (UTC) On 16 jan 2007, at 19.43, Luca Formentini wrote: > Hallo, > I need to find a simple way ( for me and the users) to upload an > audio file (mp3) of some premaster songs. > I need it to make a few people listen to those tracks ( streaming > or download). > It has to allow streaming or listening without the need for the > user to subscribe or create accounts and go through specific > procedures. > > Does exist a way to do it without using ftps ? I remember Krispen Hartung was using some service named "box".... someting...? Oh yes, I found it! http://www.box.net/ I guess you can find other similar services by the search engines (Google etc) I too regged a box account, but for my purpose it the free service was too small; it couldn't take the full fidelity files I was handling at the time. But for mp3 compressed files box.net should be fine. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 19:19:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 158C83BEEE; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <501FE8FC-D570-4689-8B15-1BC62C2EBF77@xmlizer.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:19:22 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:19:28 +0000 (UTC) multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPG-LYoW27E&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDia3CFdfg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exF1csNpyn8&mode=related&search= http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/ How about using this to cut up your loops. It can send MIDI ... http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/?software Someone will come up with a port to the apple iPhone, hehe... Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 19:30:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8F6C3BEFC; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <200101c7399a$e0183c60$e701a8c0@pcfabio> References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> <200101c7399a$e0183c60$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3FA9616B-BF49-40C4-8CD1-1A37736965A4@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:30:34 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: 0b04890c-a598-11db-b4dc-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtcZFU0Dlt1 UkhJRUJTHQ9rARYC AVAZUwdwdQdYcXdu ZEFkQXJeXkFldQgh QjkucDxgBWdhbmUX WA5ZdwJcPgMYfhtN Y1AsSSIIaG0aZ3s0 FUo5Yzw6eG0HcX0F Hw1Wcg0ZSFAxE2x0 ag0YGi0iFEtNXCU0 MAduNV8AHA4wN0I9 PF1peV8RK3dp X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:523/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:30:41 +0000 (UTC) will do soon... about to drive to california and there is a huge snowstorm going on in portland.... !! On Jan 16, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Fabio Anile wrote: >> Zoe Keating wrote: > I'm debuting my latest looping method, which allows me to > record 12 tracks (I previously had 8) with only about half the > tap dancing I used to do. > Can you tell us more about your 12 track looping set up ? > Thanks > fabio > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 19:44:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06C873BED3; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: fabio anile Reply-To: fabio anile To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:44:08 +0200 Message-ID: <25x4mQCtTMr5.yFkPcz2W@smtp.tre.biz> X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:44:38 +0000 (UTC) first: Drive safe ! fabio From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 19:50:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9E4E3BEF5; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AD2EFF.6010606@unguitar.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:01:03 +0100 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening References: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9Fce5.A.4HF.jySrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:50:59 +0000 (UTC) whooops ! sorry, I had to specify: ...so that I can send a specific link that otherways would be impossible ( or near to) reach. my space is ... "too" visible: www.myspace.com/lucaformentini www.unguitar.com Travis Hartnett wrote: > There's this thing called "myspace",,,, > > On 1/16/07, Luca Formentini > wrote: > > Hallo, > I need to find a simple way ( for me and the users) to upload an audio > file (mp3) of some premaster songs. > I need it to make a few people listen to those tracks ( streaming or > download). > It has to allow streaming or listening without the need for the > user to > subscribe or create accounts and go through specific procedures. > > Does exist a way to do it without using ftps ? > thanks, > Luca > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 19:56:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12B313BF00; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: Bryan.Phil@kraft.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:55:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C739A8.432E0C6E" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2007 19:55:25.0928 (UTC) FILETIME=[43DE4E80:01C739A8] Resent-Message-ID: <1ZqegD.A.4YF.33SrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:56:39 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C739A8.432E0C6E Content-Type: text/plain Buy your own webspace and just FTP it there. FTP is VERY VERY VERY EASY. Basically just drag and drop, if you use the proper program. This way you can name the folder whatever you want. www.mymusic.com/thisfolderhere or whatever. Bryan Phil (973) 503-2737 -----Original Message----- From: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [mailto:Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com] On Behalf Of Luca Formentini Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:51 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening whooops ! sorry, I had to specify: ...so that I can send a specific link that otherways would be impossible ( or near to) reach. my space is ... "too" visible: www.myspace.com/lucaformentini www.unguitar.com Travis Hartnett wrote: > There's this thing called "myspace",,,, > > On 1/16/07, Luca Formentini > wrote: > > Hallo, > I need to find a simple way ( for me and the users) to upload an audio > file (mp3) of some premaster songs. > I need it to make a few people listen to those tracks ( streaming or > download). > It has to allow streaming or listening without the need for the > user to > subscribe or create accounts and go through specific procedures. > > Does exist a way to do it without using ftps ? > thanks, > Luca > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C739A8.432E0C6E Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public = listening

Buy your own webspace and just FTP it there.  = FTP is VERY VERY VERY EASY. Basically just drag and drop, if you use = the proper program.

This way you can name the folder whatever you = want.  www.mymusic.com/thisfolderhere  or whatever.




Bryan Phil
(973) 503-2737

-----Original Message-----
From: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com = [mailto:Loope= rs-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com] On Behalf Of Luca = Formentini

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:51 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: a place where I can upload an mp3 for = public listening

whooops ! sorry, I had to specify:
...so that I can send a specific link that otherways = would be impossible ( or near to) reach.

my space is ... "too" visible:

www.myspace.com/lucaformentini
www.unguitar.com

Travis Hartnett wrote:

> There's this thing called = "myspace",,,,
>
> On 1/16/07, Luca Formentini = <luca@unguitar.com
> <mailto:luca@unguitar.com>> = wrote:
>
>     Hallo,
>     I need to find a simple = way ( for me and the users) to upload an audio
>     file (mp3) of some = premaster songs.
>     I need it to make a few = people listen to those tracks ( streaming or
>     download).
>     It has to allow = streaming or listening without the need for the
>     user to
>     subscribe or create = accounts and go through specific procedures.
>
>     Does exist a way to do = it without using ftps ?
>     thanks,
>     Luca
>
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C739A8.432E0C6E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 20:12:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DE063BEEA; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=LgenlHFmtVQQhJQy5Sjw+5e9VYfJy3o4V27bIt04rqlHSn6LIavUIjZRXUtoPjf2USL7u5so9ljIFd8HxKmLd8qp4b78bn0mDVLL9U5kLd38eVe78pvtHzHdLtmnnYKNFpkydHJYnbuHyk+K8X56ShszYaheNsEexHYVM0GxTLc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45AD2EFF.6010606@unguitar.com> References: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> <45AD2EFF.6010606@unguitar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:12:28 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:12:35 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Luca Formentini wrote: > ..so that I can send a specific link that otherways would be > impossible ( or near to) reach. This came up on popurls today: http://www.tubesnow.com/library_home.htm Did not look at it closely, might have too many steps for your needs and it is Windows only at the moment. Figure it might have enough potential to be of interest to some folks perhaps. regards BobC http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157594240725240 http://tinyurl.com/cr25j http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn--iF6a4Xo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 20:16:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E3E33BF0C; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [86.130.193.224] X-Originating-Email: [wtastard@msn.com] X-Sender: wtastard@msn.com In-Reply-To: <3FA9616B-BF49-40C4-8CD1-1A37736965A4@zoekeating.com> From: "Wes Tastard" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:16:53 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2007 20:16:57.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[457C66C0:01C739AB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:16:58 +0000 (UTC) hi zoe, ive just checked out your myspace page, i must say im very impressed! sorry i couldnt see you on the imogen heap tour! but if your in the UK soon i will do my best to be there, fantastic stuff! im spreading the word as we speak! good luck with the rest of the tour! Wes >From: Zoe Keating >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:30:34 -0800 > >will do soon... > >about to drive to california and there is a huge snowstorm going on in >portland.... >!! > >On Jan 16, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Fabio Anile wrote: > >>>Zoe Keating wrote: >> I'm debuting my latest looping method, which allows me to record >>12 tracks (I previously had 8) with only about half the tap dancing I >>used to do. >>Can you tell us more about your 12 track looping set up ? >>Thanks >>fabio >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com From root@relay.serenamail.com Tue Jan 16 20:48:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1064 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:48:52 UTC Received: from relay.serenamail.com (cluster1.smr.serenamail.com [195.160.225.133]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281BA3BEEA for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by relay.serenamail.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id DAFF441FAE4; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:23:09 +0100 (CET) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com From: Bank of America Content-Type: text/html Subject: Security: Your Online Banking Account is Blocked Message-Id: <20070116202309.DAFF441FAE4@relay.serenamail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:23:09 +0100 (CET) Bank of America Account Review Department !
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 22:06:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A3E63BEDC; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:06:08 +0100 (MET) From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: ninjam Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001701c739ba$8b8c8190$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: <20061211.134658.3483.1661911@webmail12.lax.untd.com> Thread-Index: AccdbgH4Obo4VysySkueErKyK2ixjQcRgtdQ X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Hey Jim, if this old message is still relevant - I'd like to set up a jam = sometimes if you dare. Rainer=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: aurlite@netzero.net [mailto:aurlite@netzero.net]=20 > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Dezember 2006 22:47 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: ninjam=20 >=20 > hay everyone, > need some advice about getting started with ninjam. > downloaded the console and client for osx. > don't know how to set up registering for a name and pass word. > if you can help, send it my way. > also love to set up a jam or two with any loopers interested. > thanks > jim >=20 >=20 > www.whiterobotrecords.com > mrbotty@whiterobotrecords.com >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 22:33:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D0973BEF4; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AD52CA.4070602@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:33:46 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, aurlite@netzero.net Subject: Re: AW: ninjam References: <001701c739ba$8b8c8190$1001a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <001701c739ba$8b8c8190$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Jim, I hope you got your questions answered, as a big proponent and user of Ninjam I'd meant to reply before. There's a very generous member (the mysterious CPR) of the list who is permitting us to use his server, though we hope to set up a permanent Looper's Delight one. You don't need to register, you just type in this server address: host address: 207.44.142.117:2050 and sign on with this info: user: privuser passwd: notsospecial There's even a Google calendar (http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=0cas4g7igp0o8fg0aa0er14pgc%40group.calendar.google.com) for scheduling sessions ahead of time, although so far there hasn't been much need as there's not a lot of sessions going on. Furthermore, there's a separate group from this one (very lightly used) which is dedicated to discussion of Ninjam activities: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/kyberloopfest/ I'm always up for a jam too. Do let me know if there's any more Ninjam questions you have and I'll try to help. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Hey Jim, > > if this old message is still relevant - I'd like to set up a jam sometimes > if you dare. > > Rainer > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: aurlite@netzero.net [mailto:aurlite@netzero.net] >> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Dezember 2006 22:47 >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Betreff: ninjam >> >> hay everyone, >> need some advice about getting started with ninjam. >> downloaded the console and client for osx. >> don't know how to set up registering for a name and pass word. >> if you can help, send it my way. >> also love to set up a jam or two with any loopers interested. >> thanks >> jim >> >> >> www.whiterobotrecords.com >> mrbotty@whiterobotrecords.com >> >> >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 23:51:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ADA53BEDD; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:51:30 -0600 From: "Sandy Rowles" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening In-Reply-To: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_128132_22934588.1168991490803" References: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:51:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_128132_22934588.1168991490803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline make a myspace.com artist page and you can upload 4 songs for free and anyone can listen without signing up. they just search your name and listen. you can also sell songs free there. im not a myspace rep or anything but thats what i do to show people my music. www.youtube.com is a good place to upload vids to share for free. hope this may be of help to you. On 1/16/07, Luca Formentini wrote: > > Hallo, > I need to find a simple way ( for me and the users) to upload an audio > file (mp3) of some premaster songs. > I need it to make a few people listen to those tracks ( streaming or > download). > It has to allow streaming or listening without the need for the user to > subscribe or create accounts and go through specific procedures. > > Does exist a way to do it without using ftps ? > thanks, > Luca > > ------=_Part_128132_22934588.1168991490803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline make a myspace.com  artist page and you can upload 4 songs for free and anyone can listen without signing up. they just search your name and listen. you can also sell songs free there. im not a myspace rep or anything but thats what i do to show people my music. www.youtube.com is a good place to upload vids to share for free. hope this may be of help to you.

On 1/16/07, Luca Formentini <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
Hallo,
I need to find a simple way ( for me and the users) to upload an audio
file (mp3) of some premaster songs.
I need it to make a few people listen to those tracks ( streaming or
download).
It has to allow streaming or listening without the need for the user to
subscribe or create accounts and go through specific procedures.

Does exist a way to do it without using ftps ?
thanks,
Luca


------=_Part_128132_22934588.1168991490803-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 16 23:57:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 440043BEF5; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=HAuVvkRYX5HmWAmRuwnJ21i9xJg5rlthabEtC948LyM++iLd1NwfFThbzjDPm0uBIlZzfnGfSfYbx2Hm00oo7CiawatiUTx00toknKRq/GdlXVMqEHdjGPdNGM9VvyR8bz6xHY8QL/VwozD5lIUUN0a1QuxhkLXO/++FbmFrW9o=; X-YMail-OSG: sVPB1ssVM1kq2z3rifmYmymwn41l25xBbK8PWTiTldh.dNuKlf2_hcSWSZLqnd5Dkv9H4OMCLli1kBXghgtl9wJv.vCx6APP48hXfz1EndyzlSbAnKSS5Q-- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:57:41 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <574288.33186.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Hey Zoe! too bad you are at the other end of Deutschland,next time let me know ahead of time to book you in the souther part and perhaps even jam together! take care, Luis --- Zoe Keating wrote: > Hello Loopers! > > For those of you over on the other side of the > Atlantic - I'll be > opening up for Imogen Heap for her short European > tour. I'm debuting > my latest looping method, which allows me to record > 12 tracks (I > previously had 8) with only about half the tap > dancing I used to do. > Plus, Imogen is a skilled Repeater performer. > > If anyone comes, do come say hello to me after the > show. > > Thanks much, Zoe > > > 25th Jan - Hamburg, DE > Ubel & Gefahrlich > > 26th Jan - Copenhagen, DK > Small Vega > > 27th - Berlin, DE > Frannz Club > > 29th Jan - Cologne, DE > Prime Club > > 31st Jan - Milan, IT > La Casa 139 > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 02:41:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EC4E3BEEA; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <014401c739e1$067ae290$1bb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <501FE8FC-D570-4689-8B15-1BC62C2EBF77@xmlizer.biz> Subject: Re: multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:41:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Wow, this is really quite amazing and intriguing. Thanks for sharing, Michael. I would love for my 20 month old twins to play with something like this. Rather than using it to cut loops, I would probably loop it, or use the MIDI output to control a more complex sound canvas, which I would in turn loop. Very cool. Can one of these be bought? Or is this in the price range of a synclavier. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Wagner LD" To: "Loopers" Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface > multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible > user interface > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc&mode=related&search= > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPG-LYoW27E&mode=related&search= > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDia3CFdfg > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exF1csNpyn8&mode=related&search= > > http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/ > > How about using this to cut up your loops. It can send MIDI ... > http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/?software > Someone will come up with a port to the apple iPhone, hehe... > > Bernhard > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 02:42:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83D273BEDC; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <014b01c739e1$2b9b6ea0$1bb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:42:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Whooops, I meant Bernhard, not Michael. I get so used to Michael Peters being the one who sends links out to bizarre instruments. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: Re: multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface > Wow, this is really quite amazing and intriguing. Thanks for sharing, > Michael. I would love for my 20 month old twins to play with something > like this. Rather than using it to cut loops, I would probably loop it, > or use the MIDI output to control a more complex sound canvas, which I > would in turn loop. Very cool. > > Can one of these be bought? Or is this in the price range of a synclavier. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernhard Wagner LD" > To: "Loopers" > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:19 PM > Subject: multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop > tangible user interface > > >> multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible >> user interface >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc&mode=related&search= >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPG-LYoW27E&mode=related&search= >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDia3CFdfg >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exF1csNpyn8&mode=related&search= >> >> http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/ >> >> How about using this to cut up your loops. It can send MIDI ... >> http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/?software >> Someone will come up with a port to the apple iPhone, hehe... >> >> Bernhard >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 03:14:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 959493BEDD; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: tw2XoGwVM1k3_tICR5thwsy..XU4GWs.QNLAYxc2W8lZrjkLHluifGsVyCiiX7DcpqWp5mhnhl6ddg.Pjx.DiCYwKDxbeX6tW9bcmPdXj5hx7eLLOAYoeQ-- From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: RE: multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:14:00 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <014401c739e1$067ae290$1bb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <9lQ2NC.A.SGE.FSZrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:14:14 +0000 (UTC) What If these were on a frictionles surface like an air-hockey table??? YEAH!!!! Plish -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface Wow, this is really quite amazing and intriguing. Thanks for sharing, Michael. I would love for my 20 month old twins to play with something like this. Rather than using it to cut loops, I would probably loop it, or use the MIDI output to control a more complex sound canvas, which I would in turn loop. Very cool. Can one of these be bought? Or is this in the price range of a synclavier. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Wagner LD" To: "Loopers" Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible user interface > multi-user electro-acoustic music instrument with a tabletop tangible > user interface > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc&mode=related&search= > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPG-LYoW27E&mode=related&search= > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDia3CFdfg > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exF1csNpyn8&mode=related&search= > > http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/ > > How about using this to cut up your loops. It can send MIDI ... > http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/?software > Someone will come up with a port to the apple iPhone, hehe... > > Bernhard > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 03:21:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C67DB3BEE1; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:33:06 -0500 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap To: Message-id: <001201c739e8$341d9ba0$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Congratulations! I hope you have a little time between traveling to the next show to see some of the towns you'll be visiting! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zoe Keating" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: European shows with Imogen Heap > Hello Loopers! > > For those of you over on the other side of the Atlantic - I'll be > opening up for Imogen Heap for her short European tour. I'm debuting > my latest looping method, which allows me to record 12 tracks (I > previously had 8) with only about half the tap dancing I used to do. > Plus, Imogen is a skilled Repeater performer. > > If anyone comes, do come say hello to me after the show. > > Thanks much, Zoe > > > 25th Jan - Hamburg, DE > Ubel & Gefahrlich > > 26th Jan - Copenhagen, DK > Small Vega > > 27th - Berlin, DE > Frannz Club > > 29th Jan - Cologne, DE > Prime Club > > 31st Jan - Milan, IT > La Casa 139 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 03:22:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 276FD3BEFB; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:33:47 -0500 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: Re: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening To: Message-id: <001701c739e8$4c4f2680$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <45AD1CE0.3050604@unguitar.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:22:20 +0000 (UTC) http://www.myspace.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luca Formentini" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:43 PM Subject: a place where I can upload an mp3 for public listening > Hallo, > I need to find a simple way ( for me and the users) to upload an audio > file (mp3) of some premaster songs. > I need it to make a few people listen to those tracks ( streaming or > download). > It has to allow streaming or listening without the need for the user to > subscribe or create accounts and go through specific procedures. > > Does exist a way to do it without using ftps ? > thanks, > Luca > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 05:08:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B52AD3BEF6; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: scott@dreamstate.to via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.065463 secs) Message-ID: <2842.65.94.55.252.1169010533.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> In-Reply-To: <001501c7395f$a72e1540$4001a8c0@mini> References: <45AC1633.20909@mhorse.com> <2D6399D9-3EF6-4E52-A239-0F97CC13589B@gmail.com> <1397.65.94.55.252.1168927196.squirrel@www.dreamstate.to> <001501c7395f$a72e1540$4001a8c0@mini> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:08:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: OT - Nord Modular group From: scott@dreamstate.to To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <0IW2_.A.N8H.g9arFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Thanks! A big help! Scott > it migrated to > > http://electro-music.com/forum/ > > lots of other very intelligent forums > > Claude > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:59 AM > Subject: OT - Nord Modular group > > > Some years back I belonged to a very active Nord Modular e-mail group but > now I can't track it down. Can anyone point me to an active > (English-speaking) group? > > Thanks, > Scott M2 > > http://www.dreamSTATE.to > ambientelectronicsoundscapes > http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 06:41:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C54F23BEF4; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,198,1167638400"; d="scan'208,217"; a="188988864:sNHT28242641" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C73A02.745B8DAA" Subject: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:41:01 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070116195100.469B63BF05@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats thread-index: Acc5p7TeMOMZHbiLSoKgH3NLz8Q4/AAWeW9A From: "Veda, Qua" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2007 06:41:04.0559 (UTC) FILETIME=[75E44BF0:01C73A02] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:41:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C73A02.745B8DAA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm really new to looping and related technology. I'd appreciate ideas, feedback on this concept for a live performance. In a live performance, I'd like to create a groove like you'd hear in electronica/dance DJ music. Perhaps ~4 loop layers , and then let it continue to loop/play as a background for live Stick playing. I've heard dance grooves that use all kinds of interesting 'found sounds' , voice clips, beats etc , that end up creating a kind of drone that could serve as background to play over. What do you think? How would you go about creating the groove layers I've described? =20 -Qua ------_=_NextPart_001_01C73A02.745B8DAA Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Accompanying yourself with live dance beats

Hi,
I'm really new to = looping and related technology. I'd appreciate ideas, feedback on this = concept for a live performance.

In a live = performance, I'd like to create a groove like you'd hear in = electronica/dance DJ music.  Perhaps ~4 loop layers , and then let = it continue to loop/play as a background for live Stick = playing.   I've heard dance grooves that use all kinds of = interesting 'found sounds' , voice clips, beats etc , that end up = creating a kind of drone that could serve as background to play = over.

What do you = think?   How would you go about creating the groove layers = I've described? 

-Qua


------_=_NextPart_001_01C73A02.745B8DAA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 07:23:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD65C3BEF4; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:23:18 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:23:28 +0000 (UTC) At 10:41 PM -0800 1/16/07, Veda, Qua wrote: > >I'm really new to looping and related technology. I'd appreciate >ideas, feedback on this concept for a live performance. > >In a live performance, I'd like to create a groove like you'd hear >in electronica/dance DJ music. Perhaps ~4 loop layers , and then >let it continue to loop/play as a background for live Stick playing. >I've heard dance grooves that use all kinds of interesting 'found >sounds' , voice clips, beats etc , that end up creating a kind of >drone that could serve as background to play over. > >What do you think? How would you go about creating the groove >layers I've described? Qua, Here's a resource: run ( yes, run; do not walk, do not pass go, yadda yadda yadda) quickly over to Rick Walker's site -- http://www.looppool.info/ -- and grab any or all of his CD's. Rick's been putting together looped grooves using only various found objects/sounds for years now. He's a regular contributor to the list and is very forthcoming with his tools and techniques. What tricks you can't get from the liner notes or his website, I'm sure he'll be willing to answer with just a quick email. My favorite is (still) Purple Hand, but I've also a soft spot for Translucent Dayglo Lime Green Plastic. And Faux Voix is a great example of what can be done by applying similar techniques to voice. Speaking of voice, you might also skip over to the Ableton site, and check out the live beatboxing video by Kid Beyond ( http://www.ableton.com/kid-beyond/ ). I don't know if you're inclined toward using a mic to lay down some grooves, but he's got some great technique for putting together backing drums and sfx on the fly by Live Looping. That should get you started, at the very least. :) --m. -- _______ "Now Simulcast on Crazy People's Fillings" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 07:47:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25AD83BEF1; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <022b01c73a0b$ada8f190$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:47:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:47:07 +0000 (UTC) The british magazines Computer Music and Future Music will have an article every month based on deconstructing a song by a popular electronica artist and showing you how it was created. Go check some back issues of these wonderful magazines. They come with a DVD with incredible free music software, hundreds of samples and all the samples you need to reconstruct that month's featured artists' selected track. Also, most of the dance styles on earth are based on the rhythms that are used to construct them. Though harmony is an important part of these dance musics, rhythm and timbre are more important in defining the genre (there are, of course, exceptions to this rule). For what it is worth, I have purposefully studied literally hundreds of dancer rhythms from all over the world for the last 30 years of my life. I analyzed them, in particular with respect to how drum/percussion/bass/guitar/keyboard and horn lines interact with each other. I put out the first volume of an encylcopedia called Global Beats and World Pop Styles , Volume One in 1989 which featured rhythmic transcriptions of 246 of the more popular grooves on the planet from 48 countries. Anyway, not finding any literature in English (and I really researched heavily) I sat down and tried to make sense of the most common ways that people use to create arrangements in dance music tracks from acoustic folk rhythms to a lot of electronica. I concentrated heavily on dance music because it was my love (this then, would preclude a lot of current electronic like Glitch, Microsound, and other musics that are specficially non-dance oriented). I have been teaching a four hour long course called the Rhythm Intensive for about the last 20 years that distills all the things I learned from all of that analysis and sets out a wholistic way of looking at rhythm in arrangement and improvisation. It is a very simple system and I have taught it to over 2500 private students including over 500 non-drumming melodic musicians (and producers, arrangers, tap dancers, et. al.) I mention this because after NAMM is over, I will be setting up a studio in my home to be able to do live lessons on video cam/chatting sessions. If you are interested in taking this course, let me know and we can set up a time to connect. Also, please pass the word that I'll be making this offering. good luck with your music Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 07:56:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F9E33BEF4; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <022f01c73a0d$07330b00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: LOOPERLATIVE demo schedule at NAMM Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:56:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: <0ISWfB.A._aF.8adrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:56:45 +0000 (UTC) If you are interested in seeing the Looperlative demonstrated at NAMM this coming weekend, my brother Bill and I will be demoing it together and in some solo performances at NAMM booth 1653. We will have official duet demonstrations scheduled at 1 p.m., 3 p.m., and 5 p.m. on Friday and Saturday and 2 p.m. and 4 p.m. on Sunday and will probably do other demos at other times as well. UK looper Steve Lawson will also be dropping by the booth to demo the unit but he has not committed to a schedule as yet. Come see us and check this cool piece of gear out. I just did a performance with it as my only looper this past weekend and had a blast. There is a new 'Random Scramble' feature that subdivides the loop into three different sizes of slices and then randomly rearranges them.................this creates some beautiful and very unusual ostinato patterns to play over. At the same time when you scroll in and out of it, you come back into the portion of the unscrambled loop that would exist at exactly that time in the loop playing constantly. I did this with vocals on a piece where I did a long Alap (langorous improvisation that introduces the new Rag or scale to the listeners ears so that they can be familiar with it as the improvisation continues) with an Arabic maqam (scale) that I've been learning recently. The resultant chopped and remixed track just sounded mesmerizing. ......................like Gabon pygmies if they were into composing glitch/microsound music with their vocals..............lol I'm in love with this new technque. There are plans to write software for the looperlative so that these choppings can be related to musical rhtyhmic subdivisions (as they are random slices not). The beauty of the Looperlative is that the instant the sofware is written any one who owns one can just use the ethernet port on the back of the unit to download and immediately install the new software on your own unit. how cool is that? See you at NAMM, Yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 08:00:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DD733BEE1; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <023301c73a0d$8799d4e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: NAMM BRUNCHEON: will we need to cancel for lack of interest? Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:00:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=1.0 tests=AWL,INFO_TLD autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:00:21 +0000 (UTC) I've only heard back from two people about the Annual NAMM Loopers Luncheon set for this Sunday, at 12 noon at the restaurant in the Hilton right outside of the NAMM main entrance. Unless I hear from others that they are coming in the next two days (we start driving for Anaheim on Thursday evening at 7 p.m.) I'm going to cancel the luncheon. Please let me know if you folks want this to happen again this year. They've been really fun in the past. Yours, Rick Walker rickwalker(at sign)looppool.info From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 10:24:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E141A3BEFC; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Eix/GusMGOdX/OSjXTjygz+W1BZmFOXFaDTQBGnJyTv7+eJKUKWAanbuWj2+klT9qkx+sb4CYk6zI61krW4ss8NIdvAyhCQl8HJPDTt43ipHUF0D27snz83YS9UeYprah5xATGnx4252qmIq25+Ql7UDn78cgsclKK9o3p/Rop8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <93060555-66DF-4E3E-B44C-D61D7F70E12C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:21:13 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:24:01 +0000 (UTC) > At 10:41 PM -0800 1/16/07, Veda, Qua wrote: >> >> I'm really new to looping and related technology. I'd appreciate >> ideas, feedback on this concept for a live performance. >> >> In a live performance, I'd like to create a groove like you'd hear >> in electronica/dance DJ music. Perhaps ~4 loop layers , and then >> let it continue to loop/play as a background for live Stick >> playing. I've heard dance grooves that use all kinds of >> interesting 'found sounds' , voice clips, beats etc , that end up >> creating a kind of drone that could serve as background to play over. >> >> What do you think? How would you go about creating the groove >> layers I've described? I would strongly recommend to use your voice into a microphone, going through a proper compressor, to create that groove layer. When playing The STick you could put on a headset mic. Eventually you would also need a floor pedal switch for turning the mic on/off to prevent leakage, that is if you lead it into the same looping input where you also play your stick to loop it (which I think is the most immediate setup). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 14:44:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16B103BEF1; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "muman" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:44:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats Message-ID: <45ADC5CF.5537.585DDB6@muman.eskimo.com> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <20070116195100.469B63BF05@arsenic.violacea.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:44:45 +0000 (UTC)
Qua,
I've been seeing your name on Loopers Delight. Cool.
When I was doing the looping with pre-recorded beats, I used an E-mu XL-1 Turbo. They are pretty cheap now (about $200-$250 on ebay). They have space for 3 more roms, which oddly enough are about the cost $200. This series of rackmount synths has what is called a Beats mode, which are pre-recorded rhythm loops with I think 12 tracks that can be individually switched on and off using MIDI Note On/Off. I used a MIDI Step for this purpose, but any MIDI footpedal sending Note On/Off will work.

I was also doing a lot of MIDI sync, so I used a Unicorn MIDI Time Piece II MIDI Patchbay to route all the MIDI signals.


>
> Hi,
> I'm really new to looping and related technology. I'd appreciate ideas,
> feedback on this concept for a live performance.
>
> In a live performance, I'd like to create a groove like you'd hear in
> electronica/dance DJ music.  Perhaps ~4 loop layers , and then let it
> continue to loop/play as a background for live Stick playing.   I've
> heard dance grooves that use all kinds of interesting 'found sounds' ,
> voice clips, beats etc , that end up creating a kind of drone that could
> serve as background to play over.
>
> What do you think?   How would you go about creating the groove layers
> I've described? 
>
> -Qua
>
>
>




Louis Hesselt-van-Dinter
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 15:15:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A74F3BEFF; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [63.93.82.73] X-Originating-Email: [ekstasis1@hotmail.com] X-Sender: ekstasis1@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <022f01c73a0d$07330b00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: NAMM Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:15:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2007 15:15:20.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D2EEBA0:01C73A4A] Resent-Message-ID: <-FNXHB.A.gKD.J2jrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang..... I know this is kinda a late post, but I have been unable to post anything to this list lately (and am wondering if this will actually make it...wassup wit dat?)---and there have been a number of threads I have wanted to chime in on lately as well--- I will be at NAMM performing and looping up at the Godin Booth on Sat. My times are (tentatively) 11am 2pm and 4pm Sat. I will be demo-ing (not demoning, as Mr. Billzebubba is doing elsewhere) the new Godin synth-access acoustic-electric basses, and I will using my JamMan (the old Lexi model) updated with the new Bob Sellon upgrades (which someone wrote in asking about---I have been using this system for a while now, and while it still is not an EDP, it greatly enhances the JamDude, and I agree the JamBoy certainly has a sunjectivel;y "better" sound for looping with bass....) I will pop in on the Looperlative booth (where I know y'all will be hanging out) and hope to meet up with you if I can. Max From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 17:02:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E3423BEEA; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009c01c73a59$9a5f84c0$b716fea9@nenufar> Reply-To: "Emmanuel PERILLE" From: "Emmanuel PERILLE" To: References: <022f01c73a0d$07330b00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: LOOPERLATIVE demo schedule at NAMM Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:04:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:02:42 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: LOOPERLATIVE demo schedule at NAMM > I just did a performance with it as my only looper this past weekend > and had a blast. There is a new 'Random Scramble' feature > that subdivides the loop into three different sizes of slices and then > randomly rearranges them.................this creates some beautiful > and very unusual ostinato patterns to play over. > At the same time when you scroll in and out of it, you come back into the > portion of the unscrambled loop that would exist at exactly that time in > the loop playing constantly. > > I did this with vocals on a piece where I did a long Alap (langorous > improvisation that > introduces the new Rag or scale to the listeners ears so that they can be > familiar with it as the > improvisation continues) with an Arabic maqam (scale) that > I've been learning recently. The resultant chopped and remixed track just > sounded mesmerizing. > ......................like Gabon pygmies if they were into composing > glitch/microsound music with their > vocals..............lol > > I'm in love with this new technque. There are plans to write software for > the looperlative so that these > choppings can be related to musical rhtyhmic subdivisions (as they are > random slices not). Nothing's new here. The djrnd3 in 2003 was doing it as called "wheelsliding effect", the same feature was already part of the djrnd2 in1998. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 17:16:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 371623BEE1; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=svxaMyS8nb2ZmWn9NO1fluIrjJt4n8VaPNmsv6UAc8L3Ck0jd7JIhxg54CU60a1NK2zsUX6YOHUqNIptMHwfI2nS/B6vfiEYDY075D/dylUQY4cfN7NRlf0CtSdGkrS1/8Aq/4r+EqdcejTrSdPV22xWGBaBr3puSQwMpjsqCQo= In-Reply-To: <009c01c73a59$9a5f84c0$b716fea9@nenufar> References: <022f01c73a0d$07330b00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <009c01c73a59$9a5f84c0$b716fea9@nenufar> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <852F46C8-7C04-420E-9EBB-357239D79C6A@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: LOOPERLATIVE demo schedule at NAMM Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:16:01 +0100 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:16:10 +0000 (UTC) > From: "RICK WALKER" >> There are plans to write software > for >> the looperlative so that these >> choppings can be related to musical rhtyhmic subdivisions (as they >> are >> random slices not). That's good to hear! I was wondering about that and actually writing up on that on the Looperlative forum last week with no reply so far. Good to know. How come it was designed so "unmusically" in the first place? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 17:22:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DEEA3BEF6; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Bill Edmondson" To: Subject: RE: NAMM Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:22:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: Acc6Sk70S0vyqAlGRxudmp7LCPR9iwAEb8Ow X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20070117172232.953A63BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:22:34 +0000 (UTC) What key features were added to the bob sellon upgrade that you're using? > -----Original Message----- > From: max valentino [mailto:ekstasis1@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:15 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: NAMM > > Hi gang..... > I know this is kinda a late post, but I have been unable to post anything > to > this list lately (and am wondering if this will actually make it...wassup > wit dat?)---and there have been a number of threads I have wanted to chime > in on lately as well--- > > I will be at NAMM performing and looping up at the Godin Booth on Sat. My > times are (tentatively) 11am 2pm and 4pm Sat. I will be demo-ing (not > demoning, as Mr. Billzebubba is doing elsewhere) the new Godin synth- > access > acoustic-electric basses, and I will using my JamMan (the old Lexi model) > updated with the new Bob Sellon upgrades (which someone wrote in asking > about---I have been using this system for a while now, and while it still > is > not an EDP, it greatly enhances the JamDude, and I agree the JamBoy > certainly has a sunjectivel;y "better" sound for looping with bass....) > > I will pop in on the Looperlative booth (where I know y'all will be > hanging > out) and hope to meet up with you if I can. > > Max From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 18:06:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B31423BEE0; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [63.93.82.103] X-Originating-Email: [ekstasis1@hotmail.com] X-Sender: ekstasis1@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070117172232.953A63BED9@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: NAMM Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:06:06 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2007 18:06:10.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[2AA9DE10:01C73A62] Resent-Message-ID: <87pJW.A.iXB.VWmrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Multiple loops simultaniously with independent mute, level and pan control Loop functions: Layer, Replace, Delay, Make Room, Destructive Fade, Trigger Timing references: Audible Click, MIDI Note Click, MIDI Clock In/Out Built-in slap echo effect Independent control of loop repeats (number of repeats for each loop) Indendent loop sizes simulataniously: i.e. a 1 beat loop along side a 12 beat loop Number of beats for each loop selectable from 1­127 Automatic fade in/out of main output Loop Init Modes: fixed size, quantize to beat, quantize to bar, etc.. Tapped or fixed loop size. MIDI control using program changes, controllers or SysEx Complete user remappability of MIDI controls and footswitches Command macros: allow groups of commands to be triggered by one event MIDI Re-Mapper for control of other gear in your rack Learnable control of all parameters from the front panel All in all it is pretty cool. At NAMM I am not sure how deep I will go into theswe functions (I am demo-ing Godin Basses, not the Sellon JamDude, and so the focus is on the bass--I am perfroming sans effects for this reason). Max >From: "Bill Edmondson" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: RE: NAMM >Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:22:51 -0500 > >What key features were added to the bob sellon upgrade that you're using? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 18:24:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32D483BEDD; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAABb4rUVQKlLXO2dsb2JhbAANjTsBAQEBJwE Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:19:30 +0000 Message-ID: <45A4201B000145F0@mail-3-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> In-Reply-To: <852F46C8-7C04-420E-9EBB-357239D79C6A@gmail.com> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk Subject: Re: LOOPERLATIVE demo schedule at NAMM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC) >> From: "RICK WALKER" > >>> There are plans to write software >> for >>> the looperlative so that these >>> choppings can be related to musical rhtyhmic subdivisions (as they >>> are >>> random slices not). > >That's good to hear! I was wondering about that and actually writing >up on that on the Looperlative forum last week with no reply so far. >Good to know. How come it was designed so "unmusically" in the first >place? > ...because that's what the user asked for ? I think the intention is to use it to change ambient wash type loops into= something rhythmic. The kind of sound you can get with the EDP 8th Quant replace trick, but w= ithout having to do all those button presses. ...and I have a notion that the person who requested it was not into sync= ed loops ;-) So would this feature have been inspired by Claude Voits LD 10th Annivers= ary piece? andy butler ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 18:33:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8303E3BEF5; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45A4201B000145F0@mail-3-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> References: <45A4201B000145F0@mail-3-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Landman Subject: Re: LOOPERLATIVE demo schedule at NAMM Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:19 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:33:22 +0000 (UTC) I believe (remembering this from somewhere on the Looperlative forum) that this was based on the size of the chunks of memory that Looperlative works with, in other words, it was easy to address memory in these sizes and the idea grew out of that. It was also stated that the developer intended to provide access to musically related tempos after finding out how well the "randomizing" function was received. Mark On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:19 AM, akbutler@tiscali.co.uk wrote: >>> From: "RICK WALKER" >> >>>> There are plans to write software >>> for >>>> the looperlative so that these >>>> choppings can be related to musical rhtyhmic subdivisions (as they >>>> are >>>> random slices not). >> >> That's good to hear! I was wondering about that and actually writing >> up on that on the Looperlative forum last week with no reply so far. >> Good to know. How come it was designed so "unmusically" in the first >> place? >> > > ...because that's what the user asked for ? > > I think the intention is to use it to change ambient wash type > loops into > something rhythmic. > The kind of sound you can get with the EDP 8th Quant replace trick, > but without > having to do all those button presses. > ...and I have a notion that the person who requested it was not > into synced > loops ;-) > > So would this feature have been inspired by Claude Voits LD 10th > Anniversary > piece? > > andy butler > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 18:59:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE5173BEF1; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AE721A.90706@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:59:38 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: '69 martin 69k ! References: <20070104194700.F402C3BEF5@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Tony K wrote: > jeez, are they smokin' crack or something? > > The pre-war martins are getting outrageous, but a '69? If you want to sell a guitar worth maybe 500$ for 5.000$, you just place some hype onto it, make people think there is someone who would pay 50.000$ and suddenly 5.000$ seems a bargain... (Collectors collect hype, not instruments) Of course the price for a Stradivari might be justified, but only a fraction of it is related to the musical value (which still is very high for a Stardivarius)... Paul Richards wrote: > I had someone do that to me recently on eBay. Some user joined eBay > the same day I placed a bid on a recording item and bid the item up > (and me like an idiot caught in the heat of the battle). I won the > item and the guy who bid never bought another thing on eBay and had > no feedback. Kinda suspicious. Kinda obvious, it was the seller... (Its forbidden, but it not controlable and thus standard...) The best way is to just put in your max and forget about it, don't watch it till the end - you either got it or not, both is good... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 19:08:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B0D33BEFB; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=YnaMRyR+Ha2nCWVZhkfJb7yFSaMDTxO8dlZe7XCHaBaedIy4X3/sIS2qUOh45NAblGzcJfZcOeEMx/gZAQl9Qq00hrlpzVWYnru9Un+jihJ/mZR7Z46yaZfEIeAM7921G1zXtINZzUdujfy4e9v66wucE48ryV0GMKqrnjlS+/Q= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <45A4201B000145F0@mail-3-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <04C0F5DB-50C4-4157-A336-5F95FFF20B32@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: LOOPERLATIVE demo schedule at NAMM Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:08:09 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <-onp9D.A.hqD.eQnrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:08:15 +0000 (UTC) >>>> From: "RICK WALKER" >>> >>>>> There are plans to write software for >>>>> the looperlative so that these >>>>> choppings can be related to musical rhtyhmic subdivisions (as they >>>>> are random slices not). >>> >>> That's good to hear! I was wondering about that and actually writing >>> up on that on the Looperlative forum last week with no reply so far. >>> Good to know. How come it was designed so "unmusically" in the first >>> place? On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:19 AM, akbutler@tiscali.co.uk wrote: >> ...because that's what the user asked for ? >> >> I think the intention is to use it to change ambient wash type >> loops into >> something rhythmic. >> The kind of sound you can get with the EDP 8th Quant replace >> trick, but without >> having to do all those button presses. >> ...and I have a notion that the person who requested it was not >> into synced >> loops ;-) >> >> So would this feature have been inspired by Claude Voits LD 10th >> Anniversary >> piece? >> >> andy butler On 17 jan 2007, at 19.33, Mark Landman wrote: > I believe (remembering this from somewhere on the Looperlative > forum) that this was based on the size of the chunks of memory that > Looperlative works with, in other words, it was easy to address > memory in these sizes and the idea grew out of that. It was also > stated that the developer intended to provide access to musically > related tempos after finding out how well the "randomizing" > function was received. Wouldn't it be a bit more promising if ideas for future development grew out of musical application of the instrument rather than out of technical coincidences like "sizes of memory chunks"? ;-) Anyway, no matter the history of this function I'm glad to hear Rick reporting that it will be refined in OS upgrades. Maybe it "just happened" like the much beloved Loop Windowing feature of the EDP; originally looked at as "a bug" but later on discovered as a useful and inspiring tool as it is. Except for the tempo issue the Shuffling sounds very good on the Looperlative, from what I have heard. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 19:13:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D28EF3BEFF; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.234] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <1169035959.277.70714.m18@yahoogroups.com> From: "samba -" Subject: Call for Bent Festival Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:12:54 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2007 19:12:58.0361 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FD02E90:01C73A6B] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:13:00 +0000 (UTC) There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Call for proposals: Bent 2007 : The Fourth Annual Circuit Bending From: Aaron Drake Message ________________________________________________________________________ 1. Call for proposals: Bent 2007 : The Fourth Annual Circuit Bending Posted by: "Aaron Drake" aaronmrdrake@yahoo.com aaronmrdrake Date: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:00 pm ((PST)) Sorry if this has already been posted but... The Tank is currently accepting proposals for: Bent 2007 : The Fourth Annual Circuit Bending Festival Proposal Deadline: January 26, 2007 Participant Notification: February 5, 2007 The Tank is pleased to announce the fourth annual Bent Festival. In celebration of our fourth year, we will be holding three back-to-back festivals across the USA. The schedule for the 2007 festival is as follows: Bent Los Angeles, April 12 14 Bent Minneapolis, April 19 21 Bent New York City, April 26 28 In response to the growing interests of the community, this year we are interested in opening up the Bent Festival to performers and artists that create their own electronics as well as to those who hack, bend, modify and destroy them. We are currently seeking performers and artists to participate at each of the above locations and are specifically looking for submissions in these categories: Performers: Bands or solo artists who incorporate home built or circuit bent instruments or ideas in their performance. Please email a short description of your act, along with a link to mp3s and photos if you have them (no attachments larger than 1mb!). Also let us know which of the above locations you would like to be considered for. if you don¹t know what circuit bending is, please research it a bit before you apply. Installation Artists: We are looking for artists who can commit to spending at least 15 hours in our space over the course of the festival creating site-specific pieces of art that somehow incorporate circuit bending. Each of the three venues will be quite different, but we are looking for artwork for each of them. We will provide space and as much materials and electronic equipment and tools as we are able. Please send a one-page proposal of what you would like to do and examples of your past work. Also, please be able to commit to spending time in the space during the festival and be prepared for a shared and at times hectic work environment - no white walls here's. Artwork: In addition to installation artists we are also interested in having artwork up on the walls that fit into the spirit of the festival from people who might not be able to join us in person or who can¹t commit to working in the space during the festival. Please submit digital images or links of your work and a brief description. Workshop Instructors: Anyone who is able to lead a workshop or give a presentation! Topics in previous years have included general circuit bending workshops for beginners and extremely technical, hands on workshops on a particular aspect or niche of the genre. If you feel you have a subject you would like to lead a workshop on, please provide us with a one-page description of that workshop, as well as links or examples of your current and past work in the field. Bending Recipe Book: This year we are going to be putting together a very home-grown book of circuit bending instructions for beginners. The format will be a large collection of instructions submitted by circuit benders from around the world. If you have a favorite bend that you would like to share with the world this is your chance! We will collect as many of these as we can collect and bind them into an inexpensive book that we then sell at the festival. To submit, please provide a step-by-step list of instructions (including photos if you can, and details of what toy and parts are used). We will credit you in the book and send you a free copy. Stipends for all festival performers, artists, and workshop leaders will be provided. We have a limited number of travel grants available as well. Please get in touch for more info. Submit all proposals and questions to contact@bentfestival.org Thanks, Mike Rosenthal Artistic Director The Tank http://www.thetanknyc.org http://www.bentfestival.org _________________________________________________________________ The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the scoop. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 19:37:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88F423BEEA; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1169062044.45ae789c5ef17@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:27:24 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LOOPERLATIVE demo schedule at NAMM References: <45A4201B000145F0@mail-3-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> <04C0F5DB-50C4-4157-A336-5F95FFF20B32@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <04C0F5DB-50C4-4157-A336-5F95FFF20B32@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 71.198.6.5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, I can't comment for Bob, but from my s/w developer standpoint there are multiple methodologies that result in new features... the first is knowing what a feature should be, and implmenting it... while another is recognizing that based on the underlying technology something is possible (ie. what would it be like if I were to break up the play back based on manipulating the pointers to the loop memory?)... sometimes these ideas are 'novel', and other times they turn into wonderfully creative tools... :) I've been on board to help Bob with the LP1 since September, but until recently I had not been able to give it the attention level I desired.. anyways, I am now working on the MIDI side of things, implementing a more robust midi control.. as well as working on MIDI related bugs (currently I see two reported on the message board, both relating to the same issue, which I believe I have located, and should have a fix done soon)... Please feel free to throw MIDI related ideas my way.. :) peace -cpr > Wouldn't it be a bit more promising if ideas for future development > grew out of musical application of the instrument rather than out of > technical coincidences like "sizes of memory chunks"? ;-) > > Anyway, no matter the history of this function I'm glad to hear Rick > reporting that it will be refined in OS upgrades. Maybe it "just > happened" like the much beloved Loop Windowing feature of the EDP; > originally looked at as "a bug" but later on discovered as a useful > and inspiring tool as it is. > > Except for the tempo issue the Shuffling sounds very good on the > Looperlative, from what I have heard. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 22:45:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AC7D3BEF4; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AEA720.0@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:45:52 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: European shows with Imogen Heap References: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <5C8DC118-1E62-481F-808A-2610B80B9FB8@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0Vt41C.A.1wC.jcqrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Zoe Keating wrote: > 27th - Berlin, DE > Franz Club I just booked a flight to Berlin for that day..., your concert will be the birthday present for my daughter... At what time will it start? Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 17 23:40:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB8B73BEDD; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FwaHTcAOs3t7+wwusiJ1XICTHuBv1NBBrlFfZbA6xaM6lN4L0/Mue+hlXNyx8PQC3Ovoa2Oz2xtKfk92/Tg4mXnhJDNecEawib0xT4XYv6kzc9C6v1ZQ14ScHZ+H2qkXYb0RNfug4yRYkCPbwhvcVSiNWrC0PiJumABfec6CVVU=; X-YMail-OSG: OHVxknkVM1mKvhlBSw8SMhHIZ9eIAkJEadmaIHqRMCq2.rUCdL8a3kgdooOkzMAQ8riLgtFWLWeLvM53xJAYd2JMkFUPeJtVamLP7p1Vcw8WtiCubx9_A_kUq9KepX7UbpXcRuskG_Ho14Q- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: New tune To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, repeater-users@yahoogroups.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, midiguitar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <704051.76260.qm@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <435700.1091.qm@web81314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Brilliant! It shall live in my iPod in a prominent place. --- rune fagereng wrote: > Hi ! > > Here are a new tune of mine. > > http://www.runefagereng.com/Its%20time%20to%20leave%20Rendered.mp3 > > best regards Rune F > > www.runefagereng.com > Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no > Mob: 917 95 867 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, > kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 01:43:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B6DE3BEF0; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=NruC6QmuqHlvCs+xVbpxY9XbCRm8hwqA15lJLfLfvRfqpLHqqF/gFXd5pbLmuBYEU/vaoULDzwBHg1sEH2eXbPT3fao0gzwn4lnNIhgyU0BXLl68zxE80HtdPYofEYscvMVFsrM9ZbM3bVm9A6YPB3iZFqxonvHWvax7e3wmcvQ=; X-YMail-OSG: __vpmFIVM1mD7csYt6X2OPRfvlk8szS0xTtdp2sO2Zds.IZd0J8Lymi5u3HlLs5Moe5UQgl7l7Qw23iQgVrZkNvPCjft6yvxiTAL5LucC2jinAUL7VMQ0OU30woiLE0ViBZ1l1ZM8RRziM8- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: loops for stick playing To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <195097.97623.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7iinpC.A.0M.cDtrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Check out the yamaha DJX-2. Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 02:00:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 954163BEF0; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 02:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,201,1167638400"; d="scan'208"; a="170109480:sNHT20131195" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:00:40 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats thread-index: Acc6pHSC/MBA5Sj7SKKS+XH2qzM6WA== From: "Veda, Qua" To: "mech" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2007 02:00:41.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[750AAD30:01C73AA4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 02:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mech, I've seen one of Kid Beyond's videos on a website. I have serious doubts about beat-boxing with my voice. But that's kind of the idea I have only I wasn't planning on using my voice. I suppose I could buy a CD of electronica-dance, and just play that and jam over it, but I thought it would be much more interesting to create a relatively simple (3-4part) groove using pre-recorded samples, found sounds, sound effects, possibly a Handsonic, or a hand percussion devices played live into a mic.=20 I figured I'd need a way to create a percussion groove line to start things off. I'll check out Muman's suggestion. Or perhaps I could find what I need on a CD of loops. Then loop ~ 8 bars of that repeating on one track. =20 Could I then use synch'd tracks to add layers to the groove ? =20 I will definitely check out Rick's site, and be in touch with Muman=20 Thanks! -Qua ---from --Original Message----- Qua, Here's a resource: run ( yes, run; do not walk, do not pass go, yadda=20 yadda yadda) quickly over to Rick Walker's site --=20 http://www.looppool.info/ -- and grab any or all of his CD's. Rick's=20 been putting together looped grooves using only various found=20 objects/sounds for years now. He's a regular contributor to the list=20 and is very forthcoming with his tools and techniques. What tricks=20 you can't get from the liner notes or his website, I'm sure he'll be=20 willing to answer with just a quick email. My favorite is (still) Purple Hand, but I've also a soft spot for=20 Translucent Dayglo Lime Green Plastic. And Faux Voix is a great=20 example of what can be done by applying similar techniques to voice. Speaking of voice, you might also skip over to the Ableton site, and=20 check out the live beatboxing video by Kid Beyond (=20 http://www.ableton.com/kid-beyond/ ). I don't know if you're=20 inclined toward using a mic to lay down some grooves, but he's got=20 some great technique for putting together backing drums and sfx on=20 the fly by Live Looping. That should get you started, at the very least. :) --m. --=20 _______ "Now Simulcast on Crazy People's Fillings" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 02:05:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B1043BEF8; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 02:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: 8zVMWiEVM1nuCS_sjA_jnnuniMEpjcN_tnSFvxzUvXaocJbZy03uEdWWecnROH3uNbbVxpWBojTcr3MDn1ON0tTBT5.BoKQ25Hxbz.8PIXt6cYl9mgF0J0UEBlgCOLhj.DacYF0LRyVCadc- From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: RE: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:05:19 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 02:05:33 +0000 (UTC) You can also buy yourself a Korg EM-1 or one of its newer sibling. Create some tracks and voila! -----Original Message----- From: Veda, Qua [mailto:qua.veda@intel.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:01 PM To: mech; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats Hi Mech, I've seen one of Kid Beyond's videos on a website. I have serious doubts about beat-boxing with my voice. But that's kind of the idea I have only I wasn't planning on using my voice. I suppose I could buy a CD of electronica-dance, and just play that and jam over it, but I thought it would be much more interesting to create a relatively simple (3-4part) groove using pre-recorded samples, found sounds, sound effects, possibly a Handsonic, or a hand percussion devices played live into a mic. I figured I'd need a way to create a percussion groove line to start things off. I'll check out Muman's suggestion. Or perhaps I could find what I need on a CD of loops. Then loop ~ 8 bars of that repeating on one track. Could I then use synch'd tracks to add layers to the groove ? I will definitely check out Rick's site, and be in touch with Muman Thanks! -Qua ---from --Original Message----- Qua, Here's a resource: run ( yes, run; do not walk, do not pass go, yadda yadda yadda) quickly over to Rick Walker's site -- http://www.looppool.info/ -- and grab any or all of his CD's. Rick's been putting together looped grooves using only various found objects/sounds for years now. He's a regular contributor to the list and is very forthcoming with his tools and techniques. What tricks you can't get from the liner notes or his website, I'm sure he'll be willing to answer with just a quick email. My favorite is (still) Purple Hand, but I've also a soft spot for Translucent Dayglo Lime Green Plastic. And Faux Voix is a great example of what can be done by applying similar techniques to voice. Speaking of voice, you might also skip over to the Ableton site, and check out the live beatboxing video by Kid Beyond ( http://www.ableton.com/kid-beyond/ ). I don't know if you're inclined toward using a mic to lay down some grooves, but he's got some great technique for putting together backing drums and sfx on the fly by Live Looping. That should get you started, at the very least. :) --m. -- _______ "Now Simulcast on Crazy People's Fillings" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 04:38:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 650B93BEEA; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <704051.76260.qm@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <704051.76260.qm@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--338109939 Message-Id: <54A2CCFF-CF4F-4E9E-A82B-ABB4C878EE94@finleysound.com> From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: New tune Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:38:54 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:38:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--338109939 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Nicely done! --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 12, 2007, at 5:13 AM, rune fagereng wrote: > Hi ! > > Here are a new tune of mine. > > http://www.runefagereng.com/Its%20time%20to%20leave%20Rendered.mp3 > > best regards Rune F > > www.runefagereng.com > Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no > Mob: 917 95 867 > > > =09 > =09 > =09 > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i =E9n. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > > --Apple-Mail-1--338109939 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nicely done!

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= --Apple-Mail-1--338109939-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 06:20:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E3483BEE4; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:20:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening to do the looperlative demonstration at NAMM and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend because we just found out that are father passed away. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 06:47:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A38F53BEF4; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:47:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:47:40 +0100 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:47:47 +0000 (UTC) My sincere condolences, Rick and Bill. Bernhard On Jan 18, 2007, at 07:20 :57, RICK WALKER wrote: > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening to do the looperlative > demonstration at NAMM and attend the annual loopers luncheon on > Sunday but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend because > we just found out that are father passed away. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 09:04:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DACAA3BEF3; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:04:15 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <004a01c72f67$d7407090$6501a8c0@embryo> Message-ID: <20070118090415.189680@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> <55e79c0d0701030712i55b1036ah31731257b278288e@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c72f67$d7407090$6501a8c0@embryo> Subject: Re: Boss RC50 (MIXED MODE) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1SjcaB.A.K6D.RgzrFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi Randolf thanks for your detailed feedback. Good to hear someone also happy with the RC50. :-) A MIXED MODE (PHRASE1 continuous, switch between PHRASE2/3) would be a great feature for the RC50 and actually pretty easy to implement. I simulate this feature in MULTI MODE by running a phrase and switching between two others with 2 external foot switches. This requires delicate foot skills, though ;-) So a MIXED MODE (besides multi/single) would be GREAT. Best regards Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 09:05:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A19363BEF1; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:05:15 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <55e79c0d0612280653q49e9191bycf7d8dc7e9469ac0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070118090515.189700@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <55e79c0d0612280653q49e9191bycf7d8dc7e9469ac0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: boss rc50 vs mh2880 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:05:16 +0000 (UTC) question is: what (features) do you need? What do you want to be able to do? Buzap -- "Feel free" - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 09:14:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C73D3BEE0; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=RLny9y+gmeejvnfTv92cZq+3EjV0tbolrzad6R5pNdg4odFKZef1nhh1XUyN972cJdUhuelCzqCdJvJGMwhRVW6gVTD8OrlpByL927cSVN8Mi5kXj6CAHt4qeS7/QQvU+1YtYRilBpJj28LiAZKR1fSz/ZFIdxl2xJYb9XJNHKI= In-Reply-To: References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:13:59 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:14:04 +0000 (UTC) I have a wonderful Stratocaster, but whenever I briefly touch the pick guard with my right hands pinky (which happens all the time when you play) a small amount of static power is built up and creates an unpleasant audio artifact. This must be a well known issue for all you guitar craft savvy people on this list? How can it be fixed? This Strat has a great sound except for that static power noise. I have brought it when doing studio musician labor and my producers have always picked this guitar before any other. But at such important recordings I have been forced to play in an uncomfortable way, making sure I never touch the pick guard by mistake, or putting loads of Gaffa Tape on the pick guard, making the Strat look like a piece of junk (which it actually is, because I partly built it myself). Now I've finally set my mind on fixing this noise issue one time for all, since I'm going to use this guitar for looping at a public guitar show later this spring. Don't want those "little noise sprouts" to get multiplied in my loops. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 09:16:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D7B03BEF5; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:16:48 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070118091648.189700@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <003801c72541$f35c6890$6402a8c0@arkdesktop> Subject: Re: Boss RC-50 update is available To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:16:50 +0000 (UTC) > I have a friend who owns one of these RC-50, he want's to know how to > begin a new loop without the drum machine blasting out a click.... You have to turn rhythm down completely. The trick is, even if you _think_ you have, still do it anyway everytime you have a new patch, because the patch may remember some old setting. -- "Feel free" - 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX ProMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 09:24:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EE8F3BED2; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:24:26 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <000201c725e5$aaf8f790$6402a8c0@arkdesktop> Message-ID: <20070118092426.189700@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000201c725e5$aaf8f790$6402a8c0@arkdesktop> Subject: RE: Boss RC-50 update is available To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:24:28 +0000 (UTC) > 1) Begin playback at the beginning of the beat. > 2) Begin playback at the beginning of the recording. hmmm, if this is really the ONLY thing the update does, I don't really need it actually, might be even better of with my old setting. The thing is: First of all, I don't use the internal tempo at all, never. Second, I NEVER have any glitch problem. Once you accept that you have to "play thru" your first loop, there is no problem at all. I don't see why people make such a fuss about it (are these really people working with the RC50, actually??). The ONLY real problem I have with the "glitch" is during switching from one PATCH (not phrase) to next while playing back. I've been really longing for this feature but it is totally worthless due to the "glitch" (a REAL glitch this time!) when switching from one PATCH ("song") to another in real-time. Has anybody tested, if this get's better with the new Update? Best regards Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 10:09:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73E8D3BEF3; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAEfWrkVQKksyUGdsb2JhbAANjTsBASo Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:04:52 +0000 Message-ID: <45769EFA00059E40@mail-4-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> In-Reply-To: From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk Subject: RE: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:09:33 +0000 (UTC) hi Per So the pickguard is metal? Sounds like an earthing problem, rather than static. Make sure there's a wire connecting the pick guard to earth, and the same for the guitar bridge. >I have a wonderful Stratocaster, but whenever I briefly touch the >pick guard with my right hands pinky (which happens all the time when >you play) a small amount of static power is built up and creates an >unpleasant audio artifact. This must be a well known issue for all >you guitar craft savvy people on this list? How can it be fixed? > ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 10:18:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C8683BEF5; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IUfL7xM9wFd0+UWwBp9LQCeHl3ktXbdtQo53QE65PzIyQfLyOme/XKGMxkXmtRCvrcZG1odexOpJ1D6EIDrgoKUSZPVBXXvDtCYPUuTf3hImb5qSrv1Goy9H7KjudknHvN8UNEmTfq/GYNYlfVVAflXnVItdWAi/F3n8tHiiFRw= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:17:43 +0100 From: "Arne R. Skage jr" Reply-To: arne@skage.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_125442_28934959.1169115463901" References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:18:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_125442_28934959.1169115463901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hei Per! The static buildup sounds weird, but you say you buildt the guitar yourself , did you shield and ground the pickups properly? Touching the pickguard should not cause any problem if it's the standard plastic kind, have you tried putting a wire between the bridge and the outputjack? / check if the strings are grounded (between the springholder outputjack) Something different: I got my first edp last week, ive ordered the loop4 software uprgrade and are looking forward to that. I have a tiny problem ; I cant get the hang of the footswich... Maybe its me but is the footswitch hard to manage? Do they (the switches) wear out? , is using a midicontroler a better way to control the unit? Hilsen Arne Skage Norway www.skage.com 2007/1/18, Per Boysen : > > I have a wonderful Stratocaster, but whenever I briefly touch the > pick guard with my right hands pinky (which happens all the time when > you play) a small amount of static power is built up and creates an > unpleasant audio artifact. This must be a well known issue for all > you guitar craft savvy people on this list? How can it be fixed? > > This Strat has a great sound except for that static power noise. I > have brought it when doing studio musician labor and my producers > have always picked this guitar before any other. But at such > important recordings I have been forced to play in an uncomfortable > way, making sure I never touch the pick guard by mistake, or putting > loads of Gaffa Tape on the pick guard, making the Strat look like a > piece of junk (which it actually is, because I partly built it > myself). Now I've finally set my mind on fixing this noise issue one > time for all, since I'm going to use this guitar for looping at a > public guitar show later this spring. Don't want those "little noise > sprouts" to get multiplied in my loops. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > -- Arne R. Skage jr. 91157204 arne@skage.com www.skage.com ------=_Part_125442_28934959.1169115463901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hei Per!
The static buildup sounds weird, but you say you buildt the guitar yourself
, did you shield and ground the pickups properly? Touching the pickguard
should not cause any problem if it's the standard plastic kind, have you
tried putting a wire between the bridge and the outputjack? / check if the
strings are grounded (between the springholder outputjack)

Something different:

I got my first edp last week, ive ordered the loop4 software uprgrade and
are looking forward to that. I have a tiny problem ; I cant get the hang of
the footswich... Maybe its me but is the footswitch hard to manage? Do they
(the switches) wear out? , is  using a midicontroler  a better way to
control the unit?


Hilsen

Arne Skage
Norway

www.skage.com

2007/1/18, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
I have a wonderful Stratocaster, but whenever I briefly touch the
pick guard with my right hands pinky (which happens all the time when
you play) a small amount of static power is built up and creates an
unpleasant audio artifact. This must be a well known issue for all
you guitar craft savvy people on this list? How can it be fixed?

This Strat has a great sound except for that static power noise. I
have brought it when doing studio musician labor and my  producers
have always picked this guitar before any other. But at such
important recordings I have been forced to play in an uncomfortable
way, making sure I never touch the pick guard by mistake, or putting
loads of Gaffa Tape on the pick guard, making the Strat look like a
piece of junk (which it actually is, because I partly built it
myself). Now I've finally set my mind on fixing this noise issue one
time for all, since I'm going to use this guitar for looping at a
public guitar show later this spring. Don't want those "little noise
sprouts" to get multiplied in my loops.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast)
http://www.myspace.com/looproom






--
Arne R. Skage jr.

91157204
arne@skage.com
www.skage.com ------=_Part_125442_28934959.1169115463901-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 10:18:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BBFF3BF07; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <001001c73aea$09bb5a20$4001a8c0@mini> From: "CV" To: References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:18:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Per some other ideas other shoes, no shoes, antistatic spray, acrill clothing?,wool clothing, a conductive copper foil under the pickguard tied to guitar ground, are your strings to the ground ?, change the pickguard ? Have an extstatic day Claude >I have a wonderful Stratocaster, but whenever I briefly touch the pick >guard with my right hands pinky (which happens all the time when you play) >a small amount of static power is built up and creates an unpleasant audio >artifact. This must be a well known issue for all you guitar craft savvy >people on this list? How can it be fixed? > > This Strat has a great sound except for that static power noise. I have > brought it when doing studio musician labor and my producers have always > picked this guitar before any other. But at such important recordings I > have been forced to play in an uncomfortable way, making sure I never > touch the pick guard by mistake, or putting loads of Gaffa Tape on the > pick guard, making the Strat look like a piece of junk (which it actually > is, because I partly built it myself). Now I've finally set my mind on > fixing this noise issue one time for all, since I'm going to use this > guitar for looping at a public guitar show later this spring. Don't want > those "little noise sprouts" to get multiplied in my loops. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 11:04:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 705313BEEC; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=C87TFA+g24spoRV2z2SKFKL84AcD4zlr9bfW4EZwR8CzbS5LHeTlzWwl4UuAOkj5SrCQita5R33y8TZEWudBv+vHTzl+Eyf4kZkiCWbQwNv9FSS66OwciIZ2WYJDWu/rUzZOaVsualHEdxWURPQUWUvmZ1qbUgLGAZ5O+CCMQ9o= In-Reply-To: <001001c73aea$09bb5a20$4001a8c0@mini> References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <001001c73aea$09bb5a20$4001a8c0@mini> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:04:02 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <7fzYz.A.tXH.mQ1rFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:04:06 +0000 (UTC) On 18 jan 2007, at 11.04, akbutler@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > So the pickguard is metal? No, it's plastic. The standard. (Strats do generally look totally ugly to my eyes, but a metal pickguard on top of that would be just awful! I use strats for the sound and not for the looks ;-) On 18 jan 2007, at 11.17, Arne R. Skage jr wrote: > Touching the pickguard > should not cause any problem if it's the standard plastic kind, Yes, it's the standard plastic kind. I guess this leads into going with Claude's conductive copper foil tip below... On 18 jan 2007, at 11.18, CV wrote: > conductive copper foil under the pickguard tied to guitar ground, Thanks, Claude, I'll try this! Everything else is of course well grounded; from the twang bar springs on the back to the machine heads on the top of the neck. I stay free from hum by touching some metal part when playing - that's a no-brainer because I usually hold the twang bar with some finger of the right hand anyway. BTW, changing the pickups is not an option. The single-coil vintage (low output and treble-ish) sound is just perfect! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 11:42:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DE233BEF1; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:41:49 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45AF5CFD.7070405@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:42:40 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. 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All times are EST / GMT-5. ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 12:22:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07B853BEF0; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002e01c73afb$45d44510$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:22:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:397775b7a70d9e9b11c0f2c5ded06394 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:21:59 +0000 (UTC) i am sending condolences and wish you best, tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening > to do the looperlative demonstration at NAMM > and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday > but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend > because we just found out that are father passed away. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 12:25:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 614373BEDD; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:23:34 +0800 From: Randolf Arriola Subject: Re: Boss RC50 (MIXED MODE) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00f501c73ae2$61733ab0$6501a8c0@embryo> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> <55e79c0d0701030712i55b1036ah31731257b278288e@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c72f67$d7407090$6501a8c0@embryo> <20070118090415.189680@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Hey Buzap, thanks for the great workaround idea! I was planning on getting the additional switch FS6 but had different plans for what it would control. I didn't think there was a way around the mix mode. I'm sure others and myself would be very interested to learn more from you how you execute your "delicate footwork" technique to get around the simulated mix mode. :) Tanx. Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) Hp 97584919 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buzap Buzap" To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: Re: Boss RC50 (MIXED MODE) > Hi Randolf > thanks for your detailed feedback. > Good to hear someone also happy with the RC50. :-) > A MIXED MODE (PHRASE1 continuous, switch between PHRASE2/3) would be a > great feature for the RC50 and actually pretty easy to implement. > I simulate this feature in MULTI MODE by running a phrase and switching > between two others with 2 external foot switches. This requires delicate > foot skills, though ;-) So a MIXED MODE (besides multi/single) would be > GREAT. > Best regards > Buzap > > -- > Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! > Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 14:04:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E22DB3BEE0; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--304226973 Message-Id: <8f4efa5f181bd58b8b035c821a8d861b@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:03:37 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:04:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--304226973 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed OM NAMAH SHIVAYA! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 17-Jan-07, at 10:20 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening to do the looperlative > demonstration at NAMM and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday > but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend because we just > found out that are father passed away. > --Apple-Mail-1--304226973 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII OM NAMAH SHIVAYA! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 17-Jan-07, at 10:20 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening to do the looperlative demonstration at NAMM and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend because we just found out that are father passed away. --Apple-Mail-1--304226973-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 14:15:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4DFF3BED9; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SN1lDb9N96zGpdIczqMgmCizxPGSICy3Nk4hmmdxARJcWkrmRGy8Ny2x/WO3674rUXlUlNgr8bXTZQRJP3lZ05YNt4VOLfBmMtB+9da2jMrfO96tX0olluZlscixVNIsvGLrHqUAOxxqiNNtW5EQXfYCNBfEkbMpRBzKtsSTbVw= Message-ID: <9e0440a60701180615m77c8e548l28b5df21f43e75eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:15:50 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation In-Reply-To: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: <6BK2C.A.GSG.YE4rFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Dear Rick I'm so sorry to learn of your Dad's death. I know how shaken you and Bill must be and sad you won't be at NAMM. I know how you feel as I lost my dad in 2002 right around this time. regardless how prepared or unpreparded you were for the news it's never an easy journey and comes filled with many side trips. I'm on my way to JFK now for 1130 outbound to Long Beach and NAMM. I'm very disappointed I won't be meeting you on this trip, I was very much looking forward to it. I do wish you and Bill comfort during this time and will be thinking of you. Sending a prayer Jim On 1/18/07, RICK WALKER wrote: > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening > to do the looperlative demonstration at NAMM > and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday > but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend > because we just found out that are father passed away. > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodin.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 14:27:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 974ED3BEEC; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:16:12 -0500 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? To: Per Boysen , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <005d01c73b0c$bb37ef80$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, Per, from the Long Island that sprouts from the bottom of New York- I encountered this problem (static discharge from a pickguard) exactly once before in my recent memory. It was on a G&L Strat, brought to me by a client for repair. It took quite a few minutes for me to even figure out what was making it happen. Once I sussed it out, I called G&L to see if they had any advice. They offered to take the guitar back and replace the entire pickguard/pickup harness, which they did. I almost wish I had tried to fix it myself, as it was such an unusual problem. My guess is that either the plastic of the pickguard is somewhat unusual and generates some kind of discharge, or that there is some interaction between the ground/earth in the circuit and the pickguard. Unfortunately, I would forsee this requiring a lot of disassembly/testing/reassembly to eliminate. I trust you know your way around your axe, Per, and you could just dive in, take it slow and logical, and see if you can either eliminate it somehow.... or just replace the pickguard. Sorry I can't give any more advice, but at least I can confirm that the problem has occurred elsewhere. Please let us all know how you solve it! Best, Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "Life! Life! Clouds and clowns! You don't have to come down!" - Sly and the Family Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 4:13 AM Subject: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? > I have a wonderful Stratocaster, but whenever I briefly touch the > pick guard with my right hands pinky (which happens all the time when > you play) a small amount of static power is built up and creates an > unpleasant audio artifact. This must be a well known issue for all > you guitar craft savvy people on this list? How can it be fixed? > > This Strat has a great sound except for that static power noise. I > have brought it when doing studio musician labor and my producers > have always picked this guitar before any other. But at such > important recordings I have been forced to play in an uncomfortable > way, making sure I never touch the pick guard by mistake, or putting > loads of Gaffa Tape on the pick guard, making the Strat look like a > piece of junk (which it actually is, because I partly built it > myself). Now I've finally set my mind on fixing this noise issue one > time for all, since I'm going to use this guitar for looping at a > public guitar show later this spring. Don't want those "little noise > sprouts" to get multiplied in my loops. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 14:53:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E66D23BEFE; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 601119559 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE:ebay (was '69 martin 69k !) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:53:49 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B939@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE:ebay (was '69 martin 69k !) Thread-Index: Acc7EHa2HSDosqELSCOByt0M1N4r/A== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2007 14:53:50.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[76B18750:01C73B10] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:53:59 +0000 (UTC) >>The best way is to just put in your max and forget about it, don't = watch it till the end - you either got it or not, both is good...<< agreed. bidding wars are of limited appeal as a sport. have you noticed = how everything is "rare" aswell? basically, if you start low on something relatively obscure, & no-one = else bids, & you lose out at the last minute by 50 cents, it was the = seller. the seller outbid you so he could relist it when the market's = ready to pay more for whatever it was. he was just testing the water, so = to speak. I've bought lots of stuff on ebay- over 200 items- some of them small & = insignificant, sure, but I have also bought basses, guitars & keyboards = for several thousand dollars. my rule (& this will vary for others, = depending how much disposable income you have) is that anything that = looks like it will go over $500 US, I will make some major effort to = establish the character of the seller.=20 I ended up having an email correspondence with eric stewart (10CC = guitarist) because of this, when I bought a nice 1963 precision from = him. another time I carried on emailing with a guy in australia who sold = me a fretless rick 4001.... but a guy who said he was in spain & who = tried to get me to do a wire transfer of $2000 for a 1969 fender bass = disappeared very quickly when I said I'd got a cheap flight & would meet = him at the airport to do the deal. look at the text details of their feedback, not just the number.=20 a fraudster of even fairly limited imagination will have set up several = ebay accounts- half a dozen or more- & performed scores of buy-it-now = "transactions" with himself to build up what looks like a healthy = feedback score. if the scoundrel can be bothered, he will have tried to = make his feedback comments look like they came from several real buyers- = this will be reflected not only in their use of english but also the = typing style (caps, exclamation marks & the like.) ask lots of questions, even if you don't really need to. get more = pictures, especially if you think the listing pics might just have been = swiped from another listing or someplace else on the interweb. but above all, don't get sucked into a bidding war. put in your best = offer, like you (mentally) would if you were going into a shop. avoid = round numbers- if I want to place a bid for around $300 for something, I = will put $303 or something. it's a bit harder for people to only-just = outbid you if you do this. it's an auction, not a computer game.=20 sure, it's annoying to get sniped by a measly 50 bucks when you're up = around $2500 dollars for something you really really want, especially = when the winning bid is from someone who's (apparently) expressing their = first interest in the item. these are usually either the seller = themselves or a trade dealer, periodically trawling the listings for = things that are more-or-less book value & that are ending within a few = minutes. I think that's what happened to the 8-string rickenbacker I = went after a few months ago.... the sensible thing to do is, from time-to-time, go to a real shop & get = grounded again. this is especially true for guitar purchases. d.=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 15:03:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C330A3BEF4; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 410383759 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:03:19 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B93A@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Thread-Index: Acc7Ecn9GZTgUoMbTCuoZgXA2sW/yw== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2007 15:03:19.0216 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9F5CB00:01C73B11] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:03:21 +0000 (UTC) >>I have a wonderful Stratocaster, but whenever I briefly touch the =20 pick guard with my right hands pinky (which happens all the time when =20 you play) a small amount of static power is built up and creates an =20 unpleasant audio artifact.<< hmmm..... I've never heard a strat do this. me & my guitarist have about = two dozen between us. what's this pickguard made of, chromed steel or = something? :-) are you playing with velvet gloves on while sliding up & = down a perspex pole? ahem. you might want to try some self-adhesive foil on the underside of it, & = ground this through the output jack. a lot of fender pickguards already = have this stuff on them, & it's also found in many guitar control = cavities & under pickups. your local luthier or guitar tech should be = able to supply something suitable. usually, the foil finds it's way to = ground via the chassis of one or more of the control pots which are = fastened through the foil. if that doesn't fix it, get an antistatic wristband from y'r local = computer shop & figure out a way to wear it while you are playing, with = the ground lead attached to the bridge/tailpiece or some other way to = the guitar's ground connection. I often have trouble with clicks & buzzes from my basses- mainly a = buzzing that goes away when I touch the strings. this is because I am = picking up EM myself (acting as an aerial, in other words) & the pickups = pick this up. I stop being an aerial when I am grounded by the guitar. = the antistatic wrist-strap thing works for me, whenever this issue is = critical (i.e. in the studio). on-stage, I ignore it. d. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 15:03:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5BA3BEFF; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070118090323.vwywsg1ba8co44sk@69.89.21.76> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:03:23 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? References: <45769EFA00059E40@mail-4-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> In-Reply-To: <45769EFA00059E40@mail-4-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:03:25 +0000 (UTC) >> I have a wonderful Stratocaster, but whenever I briefly touch the >> pick guard with my right hands pinky (which happens all the time when >> you play) a small amount of static power is built up and creates an >> unpleasant audio artifact. This must be a well known issue for all >> you guitar craft savvy people on this list? How can it be fixed? Hi, I am a new kid on the block here, my plan was to lurk for a while, and =20 then this post about electric guitar noise surfaced. When recording a friend's guitar, he had a problem wherein his guitar =20 produced a lot of hum whenever no fingers touched the strings. When =20 we put an Ebtech hum-eliminator between his guitar and the mixer (he =20 was playing directly into the board) the noise went away. Another possible solution would be to purchase a conductive =20 wrist-strap -- the kind that is supplied with a coiled lead and an =20 alligator clip. You might be able to hook the strap from your body to =20 a ground point on your guitar (or someone in your rig). You will =20 probably want to experiment with the location of the strap so it =20 doesn't interfere with your playing. 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= --Apple-Mail-1--300447303-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 15:12:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7B2E3BF18; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070118091219.4rc7lfo2w48ckc0o@69.89.21.76> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:12:19 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? (typo) References: <45769EFA00059E40@mail-4-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> <20070118090323.vwywsg1ba8co44sk@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: <20070118090323.vwywsg1ba8co44sk@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Quoting kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com: -- the kind that is supplied with a coiled lead and an alligator clip. > You might be able to hook the strap from your body to a ground point on > your guitar (or someone in your rig). The word "Someone" should be "Somewhere". (Though the image of a whole band connected via wrist straps, leads, and alligator clips is somewhat amusing!) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 15:14:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF0843BF05; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AF8ED0.2030004@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:14:24 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebay (was '69 martin 69k !) References: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B939@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B939@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:14:28 +0000 (UTC) My technique almost always is, I admit, to do that evil swoop in at the last minute, or last ten seconds, having not shown interest in it before. I suppose it makes it less of an auction, but unlike a real auction (which I attended many times in Pennsylvania as a kid), you don't get an additional minute to think about your next bid each time another bid comes up. Here it's a game of trying to snag it at the best price by a certain time, and bidding early just sends the message that things might get competitive and makes the other bidders possibly up their max bids. It is definitely a very intelligent thing to set a price and stick with it, in my first couple of auctions (I've bought 25 things or so) I realized that I could get caught up in the game and exceed my limit, so I actually do better coming in at the end without time to raise my max, too. I realize I may be a bastard. just my 2 cents...no, wait, 3 cents... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com >>> The best way is to just put in your max and forget about it, don't watch it till the end - you either got it or not, both is good...<< >>> > > agreed. bidding wars are of limited appeal as a sport. have you noticed how everything is "rare" aswell? > > basically, if you start low on something relatively obscure, & no-one else bids, & you lose out at the last minute by 50 cents, it was the seller. the seller outbid you so he could relist it when the market's ready to pay more for whatever it was. he was just testing the water, so to speak. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 15:29:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E71393BEF1; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:25:03 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120bbf6ad64c56947ad97d92414c8aa60a527f982c683177788350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Per, Are the strings on your guitar grounded? Gaffer tape is not likely to fix this problem. You need to remove the pickgaurd and apply a piece of alluminum or copper foil, or tape and make sure that this is properly grounded. THis will help dissipate the static charge. -CZ >I have a wonderful Stratocaster, but whenever I briefly touch the >pick guard with my right hands pinky (which happens all the time >when you play) a small amount of static power is built up and >creates an unpleasant audio artifact. This must be a well known >issue for all you guitar craft savvy people on this list? How can it >be fixed? > >This Strat has a great sound except for that static power noise. I >have brought it when doing studio musician labor and my producers >have always picked this guitar before any other. But at such >important recordings I have been forced to play in an uncomfortable >way, making sure I never touch the pick guard by mistake, or putting >loads of Gaffa Tape on the pick guard, making the Strat look like a >piece of junk (which it actually is, because I partly built it >myself). Now I've finally set my mind on fixing this noise issue one >time for all, since I'm going to use this guitar for looping at a >public guitar show later this spring. Don't want those "little noise >sprouts" to get multiplied in my loops. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish) >www.looproom.com (international) >http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) >http://www.myspace.com/looproom -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 15:30:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7973C3BEF0; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <21911485.1169134222631.JavaMail.root@web15> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 7:30:22 -0800 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebay (was '69 martin 69k !) Cc: Daryl Shawn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Have you ever taken coins from a blind man's tincup as well? Hehehe. -- ---- Daryl Shawn wrote: > > My technique almost always is, I admit, to do that evil swoop in at the > last minute, or last ten seconds, having not shown interest in it > before. I suppose it makes it less of an auction, but unlike a real > auction (which I attended many times in Pennsylvania as a kid), you > don't get an additional minute to think about your next bid each time > another bid comes up. Here it's a game of trying to snag it at the best > price by a certain time, and bidding early just sends the message that > things might get competitive and makes the other bidders possibly up > their max bids. It is definitely a very intelligent thing to set a price > and stick with it, in my first couple of auctions (I've bought 25 things > or so) I realized that I could get caught up in the game and exceed my > limit, so I actually do better coming in at the end without time to > raise my max, too. > > I realize I may be a bastard. > > just my 2 cents...no, wait, 3 cents... > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > >>> The best way is to just put in your max and forget about it, don't watch it till the end - you either got it or not, both is good...<< > >>> > > > > agreed. bidding wars are of limited appeal as a sport. have you noticed how everything is "rare" aswell? > > > > basically, if you start low on something relatively obscure, & no-one else bids, & you lose out at the last minute by 50 cents, it was the seller. the seller outbid you so he could relist it when the market's ready to pay more for whatever it was. he was just testing the water, so to speak. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 15:46:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E0063BF04; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B93A@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> References: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B93A@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: monk Subject: Re: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:46:13 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:46:08 +0000 (UTC) i have had several strats( including a 1958, 1965, 1964 and 1963) they have all done this under certain circumstances. it seems to happen mostly when the humidity is low and the static factor is high (i.e. winter in Ohio..) i had good luck by using some hand lotion on my right hand to get more moisture so that (for whatever reason) when i touched the pickguard, there was less static. i always meant to try the copper shielding thing but never did. try increasing (whenever possible) the humidity in the room where you are recording. that also helped. bon chance. monk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 16:06:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA1483BEEA; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:04:01 -0500 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <005a01c73b1a$8976c800$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KNKfBRUmqHHtN4Tu8yZYLw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:06:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_KNKfBRUmqHHtN4Tu8yZYLw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT With all due respect, I feel that most of the proposed solutions miss the point. Specifically: Arne Skage wrote: "have you tried putting a wire between the bridge and the outputjack? / check if the strings are grounded (between the springholder outputjack)" I believe you said that this was already properly grounded, right, Per? If the ground/earth wire from the bridge to the output jack (or to any other grounded point in the circuit) were missing, you'd get a pretty loud buzz when you let go of the strings. You're getting a buzz when you touch the pickguard, so it's something whack in the pickguard itself. VERY rare, but I experienced it myself (as mentioned in another post). CV wrote: "some other ideas other shoes, no shoes, antistatic spray, acrill clothing?,wool clothing, a conductive copper foil under the pickguard tied to guitar ground, are your strings to the ground ?, change the pickguard ? Have an extstatic day" I'd be amazed if your shoes were the problem, and you don't want to be getting into esoteric rituals (specific clothes, antistatic spray) just to accommodate one eccentric guitar. We all know the basic Strat paradigm ought to work without static discharge from the pickguard. I'm also suspicious of adding the conductive foil, as the vast majority of Strats don't need this to function properly. Conductive foil is a great upgrade for almost any instrument, but it shields the cavity/pickups from outside electromagnetic fields, not self-generated hum/static.My vote (again): change the pickguard. CV gets extra points for "have an ex-static day!" and Duncan suggested the anti-static wristband, which also makes me uneasy. It's the esoteric ritual thing again. Change the pickguard. I bet that will fix it. Oh, and just for giggles - what brand/type is the current pickguard? And more giggles - you can do the shielding foil thing with aluminum foil and two-sided tape. Very cheap and easy to do. You don't need copper foil - aluminum is actually a better conductor than copper. But there's a mojo vibe about "professional luthiers" installing copper foil, and that red-gold color sure does impress, eh? Best, dB Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "Life! Life! Clouds and clowns! You don't have to come down!" - Sly and the Family Stone --Boundary_(ID_KNKfBRUmqHHtN4Tu8yZYLw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
With all due respect, I feel that most of the proposed solutions miss the point. Specifically:
Arne Skage wrote: "have you
tried putting a wire between the bridge and the outputjack? / check if the
strings are grounded (between the springholder outputjack)"
 
I believe you said that this was already properly grounded, right, Per? If the ground/earth wire from the bridge to the output jack (or to any other grounded point in the circuit) were missing, you'd get a pretty loud buzz when you let go of the strings. You're getting a buzz when you touch the pickguard, so it's something whack in the pickguard itself. VERY rare, but I experienced it myself (as mentioned in another post).
 
CV wrote: "some other ideas
other shoes, no shoes, antistatic spray, acrill clothing?,wool clothing,  a
conductive copper foil under the pickguard tied to  guitar ground, are your
strings to the ground ?, change the pickguard ?

Have an extstatic day"
 
I'd be amazed if your shoes were the problem, and you don't want to be getting into esoteric rituals (specific clothes, antistatic spray) just to accommodate one eccentric guitar. We all know the basic Strat paradigm ought to work without static discharge from the pickguard. I'm also suspicious of adding the conductive foil, as the vast majority of Strats don't need this to function properly. Conductive foil is a great upgrade for almost any instrument, but it shields the cavity/pickups from outside electromagnetic fields, not self-generated hum/static.My vote (again): change the pickguard.
 
CV gets extra points for "have an ex-static day!"
 
and Duncan suggested the anti-static wristband, which also makes me uneasy. It's the esoteric ritual thing again. Change the pickguard. I bet that will fix it.
 
Oh, and just for giggles - what brand/type is the current pickguard?
And more giggles - you can do the shielding foil thing with aluminum foil and two-sided tape. Very cheap and easy to do. You don't need copper foil - aluminum is actually a better conductor than copper. But there's a mojo vibe about "professional luthiers" installing copper foil, and that red-gold color sure does impress, eh?
 
Best,
dB
Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large
www.thecoyote.org
coyotelk@optonline.net
 
"Life! Life!
Clouds and clowns!
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--Boundary_(ID_KNKfBRUmqHHtN4Tu8yZYLw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 16:12:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9D603BEFC; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45AF9C51.6080500@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:12:01 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebay (was '69 martin 69k !) References: <21911485.1169134222631.JavaMail.root@web15> In-Reply-To: <21911485.1169134222631.JavaMail.root@web15> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Oh, my no...I have my standards! Just candy from babies, cars from little old ladies (once bought a '64 Dodge Dart for $75), and four-tracks from people "upgrading" to ADAT's. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Have you ever taken coins from a blind man's tincup as well? Hehehe. > -- > > > ---- Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> My technique almost always is, I admit, to do that evil swoop in at the >> last minute, or last ten seconds, having not shown interest in it >> before. I suppose it makes it less of an auction, but unlike a real >> auction (which I attended many times in Pennsylvania as a kid), you >> don't get an additional minute to think about your next bid each time >> another bid comes up. Here it's a game of trying to snag it at the best >> price by a certain time, and bidding early just sends the message that >> things might get competitive and makes the other bidders possibly up >> their max bids. It is definitely a very intelligent thing to set a price >> and stick with it, in my first couple of auctions (I've bought 25 things >> or so) I realized that I could get caught up in the game and exceed my >> limit, so I actually do better coming in at the end without time to >> raise my max, too. >> >> I realize I may be a bastard. >> >> just my 2 cents...no, wait, 3 cents... >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> >> >>>>> The best way is to just put in your max and forget about it, don't watch it till the end - you either got it or not, both is good...<< >>>>> >>>>> >>> agreed. bidding wars are of limited appeal as a sport. have you noticed how everything is "rare" aswell? >>> >>> basically, if you start low on something relatively obscure, & no-one else bids, & you lose out at the last minute by 50 cents, it was the seller. the seller outbid you so he could relist it when the market's ready to pay more for whatever it was. he was just testing the water, so to speak. >>> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 16:12:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 635D83BF06; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <005a01c73b1a$8976c800$9715be18@oemcomputer> References: <005a01c73b1a$8976c800$9715be18@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--296492831 Message-Id: <190CFDC1-BA2E-41A0-AD77-CD3041179D82@fuse.net> From: monk Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:12:31 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:12:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--296492831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed with all due respect. this is not a grounding problem. it is static. you have to eliminate the static. by any means necessary. > > > --Apple-Mail-6--296492831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 with all due respect. this is = not a grounding problem.

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= --Apple-Mail-6--296492831-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 16:30:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E9773BEFB; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAABovr0XUSnIvsmdsb2JhbACNWQECBw4HBxw Message-ID: <45AF9F22.8070308@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:24:02 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? References: <005a01c73b1a$8976c800$9715be18@oemcomputer> In-Reply-To: <005a01c73b1a$8976c800$9715be18@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:30:47 +0000 (UTC) DB wrote > And more giggles - you can do the shielding foil thing with aluminum > foil and two-sided tape. Very cheap and easy to do. You don't need > copper foil - aluminum is actually a better conductor than copper. But > there's a mojo vibe about "professional luthiers" installing copper > foil, and that red-gold color sure does impress, eh? My research says:- Compared to *copper*, *aluminium* has worse *conductivity* per unit volume, but better *conductivity* per unit weight. As Al foil tends to be very thin I wonder how effective that would be. ( but if it it's worked before, I may well give it a try) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 16:31:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5ECD83BF0F; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <190CFDC1-BA2E-41A0-AD77-CD3041179D82@fuse.net> References: <005a01c73b1a$8976c800$9715be18@oemcomputer> <190CFDC1-BA2E-41A0-AD77-CD3041179D82@fuse.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:31:00 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120bbf6ad64c56947ad48243e840dff8329478e1f56be75bbad350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:31:25 +0000 (UTC) First, we must understand the nature of this problem. This noise is caused by a buildup of charge in the pickuard material. Static charge can be dissipated by proper shielding. A lining of conductive material on the back of the pickguard will dissipate this charge. >with all due respect. this is not a grounding problem. > > it is static. > >you have to eliminate the static. by any means necessary. > > > >> -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 16:37:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B5C03BEF6; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <005a01c73b1a$8976c800$9715be18@oemcomputer> <190CFDC1-BA2E-41A0-AD77-CD3041179D82@fuse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: monk Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:38:05 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:37:59 +0000 (UTC) right. but,will the conductive material discharge the static SILENTLY. that's the issue, IMO. On Jan 18, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > First, we must understand the nature of this problem. > > This noise is caused by a buildup of charge in the pickuard material. > > Static charge can be dissipated by proper shielding. > > A lining of conductive material on the back of the pickguard will > dissipate this charge. > > >> with all due respect. this is not a grounding problem. >> >> it is static. >> >> you have to eliminate the static. by any means necessary. >> >> >> >>> > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 17:02:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 802CB3BEE0; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <005a01c73b1a$8976c800$9715be18@oemcomputer> <190CFDC1-BA2E-41A0-AD77-CD3041179D82@fuse.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:02:36 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120bbf6ad64c56947ad87a57a8a4798045782fc19f49fc6e747350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Yes. It works by preventing the charge from building up in the first place. >right. but,will the conductive material discharge the static >SILENTLY. that's the issue, IMO. > > > >On Jan 18, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > >>First, we must understand the nature of this problem. >> >>This noise is caused by a buildup of charge in the pickuard material. >> >>Static charge can be dissipated by proper shielding. >> >>A lining of conductive material on the back of the pickguard will >>dissipate this charge. >> >>>with all due respect. this is not a grounding problem. >>> >>> it is static. >>> >>>you have to eliminate the static. by any means necessary. >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>-- >>... >>http://www.zmix.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 17:05:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2ECB73BEF8; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1286.69.59.206.219.1169139916.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:05:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Rick, Bill, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. My heart is with you and your family. > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening > to do the looperlative demonstration at NAMM > and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday > but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend > because we just found out that are father passed away. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 17:30:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E42E3BED9; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hfYX5ppt1xVdo8s+h3GGlEqThE5wDJtKOR06lk6zvvEkb4UJlTtWPawFyXSWiFvS; h=Received:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; In-Reply-To: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5FA6608F-85B3-44E8-A833-807164281E86@earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: David Coffin Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:30:54 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79407c40375e5bf83c82b335525f6cc643350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.118.48.94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Condolences, guys! Here=92s hoping that whatever gathering/=20 commemoration you all have is as healing and restorative as I=92m sure =20= it will be painful. dc On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:20 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening to do the looperlative =20= > demonstration at NAMM and attend the annual loopers luncheon on =20 > Sunday but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend because =20 > we just found out that are father passed away. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 17:34:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23D283BEE4; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: iA5JqXIVM1no3Si31y2dNNN6DtV9WVe4ON8wvzRVIlUnYw7NPd8wvsBOwrSMisHrlF9UKHU45O6rnMRdER8vkKhaTs2zAqUoZ_WO886PmNi8RWD91VYBO9wDf83guOoN4pg3pWk7l9fzEEk- From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: RE: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:33:46 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <5FA6608F-85B3-44E8-A833-807164281E86@earthlink.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Condolences...I've gone through it but it's difficult and unique for everyone....hang in there. ~peace~ Plish On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:20 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening to do the looperlative > demonstration at NAMM and attend the annual loopers luncheon on > Sunday but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend because > we just found out that are father passed away. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 18:41:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9AC53BEDE; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.26] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070118170520.DDA0B3BEFB@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: pickgaurd static Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:41:36 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2007 18:41:37.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[4953B4C0:01C73B30] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Sounds to me like some something attached to the pickgaurd is slightly shorted and making noise when the thing is touched. What shoes one wears when playing can affect wether or not one is grounded.Doesn't seem like esoteric ritual to me. I'm not sure but I think avoiding something just on the grounds that it's an esoteric ritual ,may itself be an esoteric ritual. _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo – buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 18:59:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E3213BEE4; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAEJSr0XUSnIwsmdsb2JhbACNWAECBw4HBxw Message-ID: <45AFC10D.3090905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:48:45 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? References: <005a01c73b1a$8976c800$9715be18@oemcomputer> <190CFDC1-BA2E-41A0-AD77-CD3041179D82@fuse.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <09XIB.A.RoC.pO8rFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > First, we must understand the nature of this problem. > This noise is caused by a buildup of charge in the pickuard material. > Static charge can be dissipated by proper shielding. > A lining of conductive material on the back of the pickguard will > dissipate this charge. Presumably the pickguard is non-conductive. So I wonder if earthing the back would prevent static build up on the front. I'm also wondering where this "static build-up" comes from. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 19:02:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A3E63BF04; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:00:58 -0500 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: OT: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? To: andy butler , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <003301c73b33$18099300$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <45AF9F22.8070308@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:02:04 +0000 (UTC) > > And more giggles - you can do the shielding foil thing with aluminum > > foil and two-sided tape. Very cheap and easy to do. You don't need > > copper foil - aluminum is actually a better conductor than copper. But > > there's a mojo vibe about "professional luthiers" installing copper > > foil, and that red-gold color sure does impress, eh? > My research says:- > Compared to *copper*, *aluminium* has worse *conductivity* per unit > volume, but better *conductivity* per unit weight. > > As Al foil tends to be very thin I wonder how effective that would be. > ( but if it it's worked before, I may well give it a try) I've used Al foil on quite a few guitars since about 1990 (when I first heard of using it). No problems. dB From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 19:06:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDBB63BF00; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "frenchloops" To: Subject: RE : Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:06:20 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Disposition-Notification-To: "frenchloops" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Rick and Bill, I feel so sorry for you, be sure my warmest thoughts are with you=20 in this hard moment. Francois -----Message d'origine----- De : RICK WALKER [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com]=20 Envoy=E9 : jeudi 18 janvier 2007 07:21 =C0 : LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Objet : Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening=20 to do the looperlative demonstration at NAMM=20 and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday=20 but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend=20 because we just found out that are father passed away. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 20:00:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E05A3BEDE; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070118200023.81808.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ik+VlDaWRaEdl3QNdJYPrp1cKqvZVuldeFw8nFKH11Yob8IJdow+IWXP5cF/fjAWRBIfceF89bUjrdkdEMW156xwh6tZijPFvlsH/veDeZq/RGAAS41ikLgsQwidgqkugdE+QDW0/1qPSp660pY2Kji9D0U0jGzOe6Yyep/n8U0=; X-YMail-OSG: BU9R2CQVM1ng5q2agrlglfCtyx1Kc886Lwumo4CC Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:00:23 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B93A@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Wait... you're not playing with a Persian cat with a balloon animal on your head while shuffling around a wool rug in the winter, are you? --- "Goddard, Duncan" wrote: > this pickguard made of, chromed steel or something? > :-) are you playing with velvet gloves on while > sliding up & down a perspex pole? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 20:21:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BF263BEF6; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=E4Ai1tQuOe/Y1HAbVc5LmudAqCOWV/wC8nz7L+pzSCR+P0FGi0+KEjFxE1KNcUjQCVyc5vomh7YBxPIRDCTDdn+1d9ngM1lef8V/eunx74SIEY8EgcniJB0RHuRAez2prT9+2usBmIjievSGJgOkkXMq6vZluMHS5xOps+l8/tw=; X-YMail-OSG: o5FPPPAVM1nxi5Pn4U3iOTV4KLBNjT8cCqgskUyK Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:21:13 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: Accompanying yourself with live dance beats To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <734508.61929.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:21:14 +0000 (UTC) This is my primary type of looping, so I'll chime in. One way to do it is to pick up a drum machine. Any type will do, but I found the new Korgs ot be really good. However, if you can find one of the discontinued E-MU Command Stations, they're really great. Second, you will *need* a MIDI syncable looper, or a looper that spits out a MIDI clock. See the tools of the trade page on LD for suggestions. Right now if I was going to buy something currently in production I wouldn't mess around with the Boss loopers, I'd go straight for the Looperlative. However... I gave all this up for a more flexible laptop based system. It's a more expensive way to go in the end, but I think it's worth it. Also, there is no drum machine that's as easy to program as a good software version. None. So... One laptop: get yourself something quick and add as much ram as it'll take. Audio Interface. My laptop had Firewire and that seems best. Sony and Toshiba's have it built in native as do Macbooks MIDI interface: If you're playing an instrument that requires two hands get yourself something for the floor like the Behringer FCB1010 and possibily suppliment it with a MIDI keyboard. I love the Novation Remote line. Sequencer: Ableton Live really rules for looping in all sorts of ways. Drum Machine: Stylus RMX and MicroTonic rock my world Looper: ALL BOW TO MOBIUS. It's FREE! Also check out Augustus Loop for the Mac and Angstroloop. Synth... too many to mention. Many are free and amazing. Good luck. Mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! 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C.E.O UNIVERSAL CHEMICALS EXPORT AND IMPORT COMPANY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 21:19:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 605C23BEE1; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:18:32 +0800 From: Randolf Arriola Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <004301c73b46$35f756a0$6501a8c0@embryo> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:19:02 +0000 (UTC) My prayers for you and family. Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) Hp 97584919 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening > to do the looperlative demonstration at NAMM > and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday > but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend > because we just found out that are father passed away. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 22:12:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF11D3BEDD; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nTx6b3baTL9Rn+re6f85lBWfTONQx65ap40BNCjbDaDFE6SDALWUcGYhGwb5uY+KBr+Num4FtGFp/CCgS0Cpc+s5X/rDPstX4pJwNYXCDxb16D3D1VQp9MhE2Rc+Drc7dw46a96fh9qVLKsh1EFq08QiWMMn0loL6bGrVymzud4= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:12:41 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation In-Reply-To: <004301c73b46$35f756a0$6501a8c0@embryo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <004301c73b46$35f756a0$6501a8c0@embryo> Resent-Message-ID: <4pkyzD.A.v0C.aD_rFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:12:42 +0000 (UTC) My condolences to both of you and your families. Tony > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RICK WALKER" > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:20 PM > Subject: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation > > > > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening > > to do the looperlative demonstration at NAMM > > and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday > > but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend > > because we just found out that are father passed away. > > > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 23:50:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C921E3BED6; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: 0bJ8wfsVM1njqj4mq9ymoCCAwbh2U1AkROwsFff_zX7UYZSa2PQyIQfQ0jJrDk0suDxebi47WGFIZ8Z4Ve2luW3LUhlNHXRlcRFozYvi_N32qdDUqdQpVXRh50WP4f2YgBo3xHhgonODw8E- From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: more gibson edp woes Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:49:55 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:50:09 +0000 (UTC) While I've been waiting for my pot to come in to swap the broken one (it's on the output), I've been playing around with it. The top is open. I start playing and the record button no longer was resetting my loops when held down. Then, I decided to reset the parameters and when I turn the unit on while holding the parameter button down I'm getting a weird screen with no marquee LoopV but instead something that looks like a t360*^ .... Thoughts? Thanks, Plish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 18 23:57:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5B7E3BEE1; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: imX0HNIVM1l31Akf.Xd1RnIJqVtlS1YEtrhBl1TY_LaP..mhs4VP0z5dzQUbYDLgyNGpAk0WOg-- Message-ID: <45B00976.5010004@infinivert.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:57:42 -0600 From: Joshua Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: More ModFX on ebay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0704-0, 01/18/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <5tqTTD.A.fgG.5lAsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Just thought I'd pass on the word! --Josh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 00:51:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D71B3BEDE; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAFGkr0VQKksyUGdsb2JhbAANjUABASo Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:31:08 +0000 Message-ID: <45A41DCE0001689E@mail-1-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk Subject: Re: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_Eol9C.A._d.JYBsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:51:21 +0000 (UTC) >> So the pickguard is metal? > >No, it's plastic. The standard. >(Strats do generally look totally ugly to my eyes, but a metal >pickguard on top of that would be just awful! I use strats for the >sound and not for the looks ;-) > right. Static is unlikely to be the problem, as you are earthed through the brid= ge. If it is static, it will occur with even the lightest touch, and will onl= y happen if you don't touch the pickguard for a while (i.e. you won't get 2= clicks in close together) Could it be something mechanical? If you can find a way to tap the pickguard, and get the noise every time,= then you should be able to sus it out. Maybe you just need another screw to hold the pickguard better onto the b= ody. I'm guessing though ;-) andy ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 01:06:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0C623BEF3; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <45A41DCE0001689E@mail-1-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> References: <45A41DCE0001689E@mail-1-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:06:29 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Nandor Subject: Re: Electric Guitar - fix for static noise? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:06:37 +0000 (UTC) My solution to eliminating all guitar hum is to use my Variax's digital connection. YMMV. :-) Of course, I don't expect that solution to be useful. I've been building my own Frankenstrat over the years, and also put in some vintage (reissue) pickups (the Fender Fat '50s), and while I use the Variax most of the time and love that I can do it without any noise, sometimes, there's nothing like the real thing. More on-topic: as I mentioned a month ago, I am new to looping, and recently got the BOSS RC-2. With my Variax connected to my PODxt Live, I can make presets that set up my FX/amp/guitar, all with a single pedal press. So I can go quickly from an acoustic guitar, to a Rickenbacker through an AC-30, to a bass (a custom Variax model where I detuned every string a full octave ... sounds decent enough for live work!) through an Ampeg, and lay down any rhythm parts I want with all sorts of different "guitars," all with the click of a pedal on the PODxt Live. And then, of course, go to a Les Paul or Strat or whatever for laying down on top of it all. It opens up a lot of possibilities. Cheers, -- Chris Nandor tunes@pudge.net http://pudge.net/tunes/ Slashdot pudge@slashdot.org http://slashdot.org/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 01:18:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D0313BEE4; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s7uXtGL8CkKAq52R9QOFNE2rMBsoeq+bfCZeZJQ3wVhBRjBpMI8Oa01qOTL85k57dty5wi+Js3n48+eyytpfVq01b+kJu0jQHfQ+iZsTJY7zTNt6NBzA42b57fGlzOnMaTo4qVbcuHQh+8q+yorJSgQcV+aDmGtsJM1HfoNHUDg= Message-ID: <9e0440a60701181718m1da00ccfj9ca179d8ac0cac32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:18:02 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NAMM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <022f01c73a0d$07330b00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: <7kaRI.A.5uB.PxBsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Max I hope to see and meet you at the Godin booth. I'm a Seagull endorser from NY. I didn't know Fred had decided to have performing slots I wish I had asked him. in that they didn't last year assumed not. anyhow look fwd to catch what you do. regards Jim Goodin http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com On 1/17/07, max valentino wrote: > Hi gang..... > I know this is kinda a late post, but I have been unable to post anything to > this list lately (and am wondering if this will actually make it...wassup > wit dat?)---and there have been a number of threads I have wanted to chime > in on lately as well--- > > I will be at NAMM performing and looping up at the Godin Booth on Sat. My > times are (tentatively) 11am 2pm and 4pm Sat. I will be demo-ing (not > demoning, as Mr. Billzebubba is doing elsewhere) the new Godin synth-access > acoustic-electric basses, and I will using my JamMan (the old Lexi model) > updated with the new Bob Sellon upgrades (which someone wrote in asking > about---I have been using this system for a while now, and while it still is > not an EDP, it greatly enhances the JamDude, and I agree the JamBoy > certainly has a sunjectivel;y "better" sound for looping with bass....) > > I will pop in on the Looperlative booth (where I know y'all will be hanging > out) and hope to meet up with you if I can. > > Max > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodin.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com From notice@ebay.com Fri Jan 19 01:20:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4496 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:20:29 UTC Received: from carrollsweb.com (mail.carrollsweb.com [63.245.131.65]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F293BED6 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User [66.163.7.148] by carrollsweb.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A6FE173C; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:47:10 -0600 Reply-To: From: "eBay" Subject: Become an Platinum eBay Power Seller Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:48:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <200701181747872.SM02148@User> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 03:10:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 728693BED9; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <59728bcb806341df76db4feb2f0e1cbd@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:53:42 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Rick & Bill, Please accept my heartfelt sympathy and condolences. Words don't mean much at a time of loss like this. But I am sure many on this list care and can sense or empathize with you in your grief. Best regards, Ted Killian On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:20 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening to do the looperlative > demonstration at NAMM and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday > but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend because we just > found out that are father passed away. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 03:35:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 968E03BEE4; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701190335.l0J3ZV0G055585@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Sad News Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:35:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C73B37.D18605D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc2YDP4EsBRSsAYTT2kd0jPVLu+VAFGNp8g In-Reply-To: <2D38A419-BA31-4A1C-894F-81B20A936AD7@steve-lawson.co.uk> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:35:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C73B37.D18605D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Steve, as you probably have heard by now, our dad passed away a couple of days ago. Our nephew Brian found him , it seems he just dropped dead either from heart failure or a stroke, as you can imagine we are still in shock, and at this time I'm not sure I will be able to perform with you on the 28th, as the memorial will be on the 27th in san jose, I'll have relatives in town, and I don't know if I will be in the emotional state to perform in front of people, but I didn't want you to have to loose the gig, and I was wondering if there was someone else either in the Bay Area, or down at NAMM who might want to cover my slot, that you would feel comfortable in sharing a bill with, or you could do the two hour slot yourself, or I could simply cancel the gig, as I'm not worried , given the circumstances, of alienating the club owner. Let me know ASAP what you would like to do. I'm still not sure how I'll feel in a week. I'm sorry Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C73B37.D18605D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Steve, as you probably have = heard by now, our dad passed away a couple of days ago. Our nephew Brian found = him , it seems he just dropped dead either from heart failure or a stroke, as you = can imagine we are still in shock, and at this time I’m not sure I = will be able to perform with you on the 28th, as the memorial will be = on the 27th in san jose, I’ll have relatives in town, and I = don’t know if I will be in the emotional state to perform in front of people, =  but I didn’t want you to have to loose the gig, and I was wondering if = there was someone else either in the Bay Area, or down at NAMM who might want = to cover my slot, that you would feel comfortable in sharing a bill with, = or you could do the two hour slot yourself, or I could simply cancel the gig, = as I’m not worried , given the circumstances, of alienating the club owner. Let = me know ASAP what you would like to do. I’m still not sure how = I’ll feel in a week.

 I’m = sorry

Bill

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C73B37.D18605D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 04:15:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65BEB3BEE0; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NEzXlKTBYrX7lAD72yrENPsO78gEDUjfDTungAYSQLSHQVuPWR5iVLP963SbXCHufNy3sCJUrCsPk3rte6llC4dCsjMM8LnyCsmtd0q6sU1H3iuW4fkqOEMWF/bi4nPEYeHMdxS4UB0c8sul2nAitvUbac4EKUsaYmZIQlVINHU= Message-ID: <3fa302e30701182015uf06c66cm2f3f0c4826e17eda@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:15:18 -0800 From: Mikkoz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation In-Reply-To: <59728bcb806341df76db4feb2f0e1cbd@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_51452_20856370.1169180118942" References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <59728bcb806341df76db4feb2f0e1cbd@charter.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:15:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_51452_20856370.1169180118942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm so sorry to hear the news guys . . . my thoughts and condolences go out to you. Peace, Miko ------=_Part_51452_20856370.1169180118942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm so sorry to hear the news guys . . . my thoughts and condolences go out to you.  Peace, Miko ------=_Part_51452_20856370.1169180118942-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 12:49:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FD3A3BEE4; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009701c73bc8$366c8c90$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <59728bcb806341df76db4feb2f0e1cbd@charter.net> <3fa302e30701182015uf06c66cm2f3f0c4826e17eda@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:49:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Our condolences and best wishes to the Walker family on their loss. May music provide you all with comfort and happiness through this difficult time. Stephen & Sarah Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 12:56:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3F313BEF6; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:56:19 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation In-reply-to: <10148486.1169101755593.JavaMail.root@m11> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <45B0BFF3.1040400@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <10148486.1169101755593.JavaMail.root@m11> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:56:59 +0000 (UTC) RICK WALKER wrote: > Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening to do the looperlative > demonstration at NAMM and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday > but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend because we just > found out that are father passed away. My father passed away in late 1999 and my mother followed 14 months later in 2000. As a relatively new orphan, the wound is still open for all to see. You have my deepest condolences. Bill Fox From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 13:08:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E442B3BEF1; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070108022611.04ab2298@loopers-delight.com> References: <3b2d602cb4c454fa918143598dd3b797@cox.net> <45A1D927.6080607@imt.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20070108022611.04ab2298@loopers-delight.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:50:05 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: EDP woes (debouncing) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2007 13:08:01.0588 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9254740:01C73BCA] Resent-Message-ID: <9yPDnB.A.ISH.4KMsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:08:08 +0000 (UTC) >At 09:39 PM 1/7/2007, Bob Weigel wrote: >>Hmm...radio shack.... I wonder how well the interface debounces? I >>don't know the technical aspects of these yet as I haven't had to >>work on one. But often on interfaces that aren't software debounced > >of course it has debouncing. Are there any mechanical switches that >don't bounce? I never encountered one... Debouncing switches is a >pretty basic digital interface requirement. I would be quite >surprised to find any device with a switch that wasn't debouncing it >somehow. > >kim in fact there is a resistor/capacitor for HW debounce plus a SW debounce. They both could be stronger to support worn out switches a bit longer, but debouncing also slows down the speed of action, which is far more important for looping than for example for a program change... -- ---> http://www.matthiasgrob.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 14:51:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7DC43BEDD; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00f001c73bd9$3b0083e0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: "Fabio Anile" Subject: CT-GREAT SPEECHES is online ! Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:50:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C73BE1.9C527B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2007 14:51:00.0616 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C222080:01C73BD9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:51:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C73BE1.9C527B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi people, I' m proud to announce that the CT-GREAT SPEECHES project is = now online and free download. Thanks to all members, for theyr creativity, patience and ispiration. Here's is the link: = http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&albumid=3D24=20 and - for those of you who are interested - a "Listening guide" to the = project. As usual, comments are welcome. Fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ www.myspace.com/eterogeneo Listening guide to the CT-Great Speech project =20 The aim of this project is to compose a music to "furnish" a=20 famous speech. A "great speech" is a speech that has a=20 relevant historical, religious, political, or social content. =20 First time I started to think at this project was when I worked on a = film about the Apollo 11 moon landing. The interesting part of that work = was to think to the speech as a part of the music, the leading part. = Nothing new compared to My life in a bush of ghost (Brian Eno - David = Byrne, 1981), but it was new for me experimenting the Eno-Byrne = creative process.=20 I started to work on other speeches and when I realized that it would = take most part of the time i've to spend in music, I open it to the = CT-Collective. =20 I'm now very proud to announce the publishing of the CT-Great Speeches = project, my first experience as a CT-Collective project coordinator. This was an amazing experience for many reasons: different musical = approaches and speeches choosen by the members, different ways of = working on the samples and many contacts with skilled musicians, from = all around the world. It's interesting notate that some members have choosen speeches = regarding similar events or content: 2nd world war, missions in space = and spirituality are three recourring themes in this CD. That inspired me to create a playlist accordingly to these three themes = and here's how it works.=20 The CD starts with a great dense, obscure and emotional atmosphere, = where you can hear the famous W. Churchill's one-line quote, "we'll = fight 'em on the beaches" (1). Next songs contain the tone colored = declaration of war (2) by the italian dictator B. Mussolini, in a = crescendo rock track. It's interesting notice that both songs end with a = sample (birds in the 1st, a child crying in th 2nd) that introduce a = reality context. The third song contains a Michael Moore speech, about the U.S. = President G. Bush feeling like God (3); M. Frank had built a very = rithmic and straordinarly accessible track. The Meaning of God is the original title of the speech held by M. Gandhi = that appears, after an ethereal looping textures, in Misterious Power = (4), the song i composed for this project. As it was the dark side compared to the Gandhi message, follows the = intense composition by Mike Fazio, about the The Jim Jones Jonestown = Cult Suicide Speech (5).=20 Moon 1969 (6) opens the edge of space missions. Just announced, like in = the JFK speech, altered by Michael Peters in an onomatopoeic way, as it = seems that you're starting to fly ; or followed step by step, with an = ear to the President R. Reagan announcing the mission and an ear to a = radio station that was broadcasting in real time the Challenger Tragedy = (7), like in the obscure ambient song composed by Milco Montagna. Spirit and science converge in a unique element in the A. Hofman speech = choosen by Anders Ostberg for his drone track, about a new natural wiev = of life (8).=20 Artificious is the starting point for the (impossible) 17 U.S. = Presidents conference (9) Norelpref created. As an answer to all that = politics talking, i've put Now is the time (10) contains a part of the = famous I've a dream speech held by M. L. King in Washington in 1963 = (10). I compose it before starting the CT project, and even if i've = encouraged the members to take in account this speech, noone used it. = So i put it here, thinking it could be a good final song. At the end, i feel it was an interesting experience where all members = work hard to get the best idea, or musical and technical approach and = inspiration. =20 Thanks to you all for your work, collaboration and patience, i'll hope = it will be a second CT-Great Speeches project to follow.=20 Roma, 15 gennaio 2007 Fabio Anile ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C73BE1.9C527B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi people, I' m proud = to announce=20 that the CT-GREAT SPEECHES project is now online and free = download.
Thanks to all members, = for theyr=20 creativity, patience and ispiration.
 
Here's is the link: http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&alb= umid=3D24
and - for those of = you who are=20 interested - a "Listening guide" to the project.
As usual, comments are=20 welcome.
 
Fabio
www.myspace.com/eterogeneo=
 
 

Listening guide=20 to the CT-Great Speech project

 

The aim = of this=20 project is to compose a music to "furnish" a =

famous = speech. A=20 "great speech" is a speech that has a

relevant = historical,=20 religious, political, or social = content.

 

First time I = started to=20 think at this project was when I worked on a film about the Apollo 11 = moon=20 landing. The interesting part of that work was to think to the speech as = a part=20 of the music, the leading part. Nothing new compared to My life in a = bush of=20 ghost (Brian Eno - David Byrne, =20 1981), but it was new for me experimenting the Eno-Byrne creative = process.

I started to = work on=20 other speeches and when I realized that it would take most part of the = time i=92ve=20 to spend in music, I open it to the = CT-Collective.

 

I'm now very = proud to=20 announce the publishing of the CT-Great Speeches project, my first = experience as=20 a CT-Collective project coordinator.

This was an = amazing=20 experience for many reasons: different musical approaches and speeches = choosen=20 by the members, different ways of working on the samples and many = contacts with=20 skilled musicians, from all around the = world.

It's = interesting notate=20 that some members have choosen speeches regarding similar events or = content: 2nd=20 world war, missions in space and spirituality are three recourring = themes in=20 this CD.

 

That = inspired me to=20 create a playlist accordingly to these three themes and here's how it = works.=20

The CD = starts with a=20 great dense, obscure and emotional atmosphere, where you can hear the = famous W.=20 Churchill=92s one-line quote, "we'll fight 'em on = the beaches"=20 (1). Next songs contain the tone colored declaration=20 of war (2) by the italian dictator B. Mussolini, in a crescendo = rock=20 track. It's interesting notice that both songs end with a sample (birds = in the=20 1st, a child crying in th 2nd) that introduce a reality=20 context.

 The third = song contains=20 a Michael Moore speech, about the U.S. President G. Bush feeling like = God (3); M. Frank =20 had built a very rithmic and straordinarly accessible=20 track.

The Meaning = of God is=20 the original title of the speech held by M. Gandhi that appears, after = an=20 ethereal looping textures, in Misterious Power = (4),=20 the song i composed for this project.

As it was = the dark side=20 compared to the Gandhi message, follows the intense composition by Mike = Fazio,=20 about the The Jim Jones Jonestown Cult Suicide = Speech=20 (5).

Moon=20 1969 (6) opens the edge of space missions. Just announced, like = in the=20 JFK speech, altered by Michael Peters in an onomatopoeic way, as it = seems that=20 you=92re starting to fly ; or followed step by step, with an ear to the = President=20 R. Reagan announcing the mission and an ear to a radio station that was=20 broadcasting in real time the Challenger Tragedy = (7),=20 like in the obscure ambient song composed by Milco=20 Montagna.

Spirit and = science=20 converge in a unique element in the A. Hofman speech choosen by Anders = Ostberg=20 for his drone track, about a new natural wiev of = life=20 (8).

Artificious = is the=20 starting point for the (impossible) 17 U.S. Presidents  conference (9) = Norelpref created.=20 As an answer to all that politics talking, i=92ve put Now is=20 the time (10) contains a part of the famous I=92ve a dream speech = held by=20 M. L. King in Washington in 1963 (10). I compose it before starting the = CT=20 project, and even if i=92ve encouraged the members to take in account = this speech,=20 noone used it.  So i put = it here,=20 thinking it could be a good final song.

At the end, = i feel it=20 was an interesting experience where all members work hard to get the = best idea,=20 or musical and technical approach and inspiration. 

Thanks to = you all for=20 your work, collaboration and patience, i=92ll hope it will be a second = CT-Great=20 Speeches project to follow.

 

Roma, 15 = gennaio=20 2007

 

         &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;     =20 Fabio Anile

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C73BE1.9C527B00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 15:24:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B537E3BEEA; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Message-ID: <45B0E282.4000706@hotmail.it> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:23:46 +0100 From: weaviestonder User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CT-GREAT SPEECHES is online ! References: <00f001c73bd9$3b0083e0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> In-Reply-To: <00f001c73bd9$3b0083e0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi,
the project is very interesting, and basically all of the pieces are great.
The emotional impact is very strong in many cases - I must say that as an Italian, Mussolini's speech gives me the fidgets...

Keep up the good work, ciao e complimenti

Lorenzo

Fabio Anile ha scritto:
Hi people, I' m proud to announce that the CT-GREAT SPEECHES project is now online and free download.
Thanks to all members, for theyr creativity, patience and ispiration.
and - for those of you who are interested - a "Listening guide" to the project.
As usual, comments are welcome.

Listening guide to the CT-Great Speech project

The aim of this project is to compose a music to "furnish" a

famous speech. A "great speech" is a speech that has a

relevant historical, religious, political, or social content.

First time I started to think at this project was when I worked on a film about the Apollo 11 moon landing. The interesting part of that work was to think to the speech as a part of the music, the leading part. Nothing new compared to My life in a bush of ghost (Brian Eno - David Byrne, 1981), but it was new for me experimenting the Eno-Byrne creative process.

I started to work on other speeches and when I realized that it would take most part of the time i’ve to spend in music, I open it to the CT-Collective.

I'm now very proud to announce the publishing of the CT-Great Speeches project, my first experience as a CT-Collective project coordinator.

This was an amazing experience for many reasons: different musical approaches and speeches choosen by the members, different ways of working on the samples and many contacts with skilled musicians, from all around the world.

It's interesting notate that some members have choosen speeches regarding similar events or content: 2nd world war, missions in space and spirituality are three recourring themes in this CD.

That inspired me to create a playlist accordingly to these three themes and here's how it works.

The CD starts with a great dense, obscure and emotional atmosphere, where you can hear the famous W. Churchill’s one-line quote, "we'll fight 'em on the beaches" (1). Next songs contain the tone colored declaration of war (2) by the italian dictator B. Mussolini, in a crescendo rock track. It's interesting notice that both songs end with a sample (birds in the 1st, a child crying in th 2nd) that introduce a reality context.

The third song contains a Michael Moore speech, about the U.S. President G. Bush feeling like God (3); M. Frank had built a very rithmic and straordinarly accessible track.

The Meaning of God is the original title of the speech held by M. Gandhi that appears, after an ethereal looping textures, in Misterious Power (4), the song i composed for this project.

As it was the dark side compared to the Gandhi message, follows the intense composition by Mike Fazio, about the The Jim Jones Jonestown Cult Suicide Speech (5).

Moon 1969 (6) opens the edge of space missions. Just announced, like in the JFK speech, altered by Michael Peters in an onomatopoeic way, as it seems that you’re starting to fly ; or followed step by step, with an ear to the President R. Reagan announcing the mission and an ear to a radio station that was broadcasting in real time the Challenger Tragedy (7), like in the obscure ambient song composed by Milco Montagna.

Spirit and science converge in a unique element in the A. Hofman speech choosen by Anders Ostberg for his drone track, about a new natural wiev of life (8).

Artificious is the starting point for the (impossible) 17 U.S. Presidents conference (9) Norelpref created. As an answer to all that politics talking, i’ve put Now is the time (10) contains a part of the famous I’ve a dream speech held by M. L. King in Washington in 1963 (10). I compose it before starting the CT project, and even if i’ve encouraged the members to take in account this speech, noone used it. So i put it here, thinking it could be a good final song.

At the end, i feel it was an interesting experience where all members work hard to get the best idea, or musical and technical approach and inspiration.

Thanks to you all for your work, collaboration and patience, i’ll hope it will be a second CT-Great Speeches project to follow.

Roma, 15 gennaio 2007

      Fabio Anile


From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 15:34:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 118F43BEFE; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <73F23ABB-284E-4A2E-8E01-D7CA1E1529FF@xmlizer.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?REQ:_Audio_to_Midi_Drum_Doctor_19=93_/_2U_Garfi?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?eld_Electronics_Burbank_California?= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:34:38 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Recently I had lots of fun jamming with a terrific drummer who always =20= uses a metronome. I used the output of this metronome into the EDP =20 set to Sync=3DIn and it worked great. Now another friend said he has an Audio to Midi device called "Drum =20 Doctor", a 19=93 / 2U rack unit from Garfield Electronics, Burbank =20 California without a manual. I would like to find out whether this tool generates also MIDI clock =20 from an audio trigger. So I'm wondering if anyone knows this device or has a manual, since =20 research with google wasn't fruitful: http://tinyurl.com/36dqam ("GARFIELD ELECTRONICS Doctor Click") http://tinyurl.com/2txvg2 Garfield Electronics seems to have disappeared. Thanks Bernhard= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 15:43:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C58673BEFB; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30701182015uf06c66cm2f3f0c4826e17eda@mail.gmail.com> References: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <59728bcb806341df76db4feb2f0e1cbd@charter.net> <3fa302e30701182015uf06c66cm2f3f0c4826e17eda@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:04:04 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:43:45 +0000 (UTC) My concoldences to you as well. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 15:46:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 868B53BF07; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <73F23ABB-284E-4A2E-8E01-D7CA1E1529FF@xmlizer.biz> References: <73F23ABB-284E-4A2E-8E01-D7CA1E1529FF@xmlizer.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?EDP_Manual_no_longer_online_=28was:_REQ:_Audio_?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?to_Midi_Drum_Doctor_19=93_/_2U_Garfield_Electro?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?nics_Burbank_California=29?= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:46:45 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:46:51 +0000 (UTC) ... I meant using the EDP's BeatSync to synchronize with the =20 metronome, of course (see manual page 6-3) BTW: This link to the EDP Manual does no longer work: http://www.gibson.com/files/amps/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf The expired link is given on this page: http://loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html Maybe the manual could be hosted on LD? Thanks Bernhard On Jan 19, 2007, at 16:34 :38, Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: > > Recently I had lots of fun jamming with a terrific drummer who =20 > always uses a metronome. I used the output of this metronome into =20 > the EDP set to Sync=3DIn and it worked great. > > Now another friend said he has an Audio to Midi device called "Drum =20= > Doctor", a 19=93 / 2U rack unit from Garfield Electronics, Burbank =20 > California without a manual. > I would like to find out whether this tool generates also MIDI =20 > clock from an audio trigger. > > So I'm wondering if anyone knows this device or has a manual, since =20= > research with google wasn't fruitful: > http://tinyurl.com/36dqam ("GARFIELD ELECTRONICS Doctor Click") > http://tinyurl.com/2txvg2 > > Garfield Electronics seems to have disappeared. > > Thanks > Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 16:23:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 000213BEF0; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20070119082122.01560c68@pop.powweb.com> x-files: the truth is out there Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:23:18 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: new delay pedal from Eventide In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60612311704w6e6c7bf0q26563a9d1f25ab13@mail.gmail.co m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria Resent-Message-ID: <6uR3zD.A.MyG.CCPsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Interesting to see Eventide come out with a line (2) of stompboxes. TimeFactor appears to have a looper mode. http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2007/01/namm-eventide-time-factor-superhot.html http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.jsp?msgid=1169171234352 http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 16:33:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D759C3BF0B; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20070119082122.01560c68@pop.powweb.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070119082122.01560c68@pop.powweb.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:32:58 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: new delay pedal from Eventide Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b5711208f8345b77ff594477c060c30ef909667671bba10a1fbfa1a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:33:04 +0000 (UTC) According to the 'cut sheet' it features a12 second looper... no synch, no storage, no reverse, >Interesting to see Eventide come out with a line (2) of stompboxes. >TimeFactor appears to have a looper mode. > >http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2007/01/namm-eventide-time-factor-superhot.html >http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.jsp?msgid=1169171234352 >http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 17:21:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49B803BEFF; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=kAVe+LU3Ux0G4H3O1smKcIgk11l+OY+sd8Y1EBdH/T6KpKZ8uRhBTqSxo4QHho9y4r78vNjPlhBZH6C+lXB7TQgQGfH6z2H+96eM/w3ZJQyiezIcGZtX2J5VHtfWnxk1MUHtfU8Z1CXsGxyDRUmXsUtLXs5l3PWnRLq+X0xLddQ=; X-YMail-OSG: qqOeszAVM1kZQkYaL99MiZ9U33VArjJhxiEN5ExlG.H2hRkahub435N1VuVbC.0AX71AneG9FG40d3daPOGsTin.vBCgZYvcyvLBuo7VseQh62gdCUQMjmex7Yg9COi1YIUZdtnDnXr6UUVk.bg34H4- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:21:14 -0800 (PST) From: jan gyn Subject: Hawk Spring Reverb To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <991869.61472.qm@web54204.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9G6WB.A.fHB.M4PsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Hello all- Anybody know anything about the Hawk Spring Reverb? It's a full length reverb tank from Japan that runs off of an AC/DC adapter. Can't tell the vintage- could be 70s, 80s. Thanx, -jan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 18:55:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F2D63BEEA; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <001001c73bfb$50787490$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: Subject: Let me into the mystical world of midi? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:54:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C73C03.B1E48360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:55:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C73C03.B1E48360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can one of you midi genuii help me with a spot of midi shit?? I need to map some knobs on my M-Audio Ozone keyboard to the atack and = decay parameters of my old GR30 guitar synth... Now Im doing this with = no trouble with my other synths, basically because the control change = assignments are printed in an easy to understand way in the manuals. = However, the GR30 has a few pages of mystical and miniscule faded text = at the back of the book that looks like this=20 00 00 0A =A6 0E - 72 =A6 attack this seems to be the relevant line.... out of pages and pages of these = weird runes... I know Its hex... but what do i do with it??? Can i get = my little keyboard to do this stuff or do i have to recite The book of = lies backwards while kneeling in a chalk circle... cos I already tried = that and it didnt work... please help Mark ps: anyone know how to get rid of demons? mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for = www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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I need to map some knobs on my = M-Audio Ozone=20 keyboard to the atack and decay parameters of my old GR30 guitar = synth... =20 Now Im doing this with no trouble with my other synths, basically = because the=20 control change assignments are printed in an easy to understand way in = the=20 manuals. However, the GR30 has a few pages of mystical and miniscule = faded text=20 at the back of the book that looks like this
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C73C03.B1E48360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 19:25:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 093153BEFB; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [69.84.126.202] X-Originating-Email: [aaronleese@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aaronleese@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <001001c73bfb$50787490$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "aaron leese" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Let me into the mystical world of midi? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:25:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2007 19:25:11.0091 (UTC) FILETIME=[89616830:01C73BFF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:25:12 +0000 (UTC) While we could worry about decoding this ageless scrypt .. I think there may be an easier way. There are a number of utilities on the internet that can show you midi messages to your system as they are recieved ... grab one of those and then hit the key in question and see what comes over. Is this becuase you are doing some programming, or just a midi learn for an existing program? And while we are on this subject .... does anyone know how to seperate midi devices? I currently have 4 connectoed to my computer .... unfortunetaly the M-Audio XSession midi mixer uses midi commands that are NoteOn commands, and some of the correspond to leys on my keyboard ... so if I write a program to use the midi commands coming from the mixer, then some of the keys on my leyboard end up triggering things ..... Since the M-Audio device is not programmable, I want to be able to specify ... when recieving midi msg "abc" ... FROM DEVICE XYZ ..... treat it as such and such command. It seems that midi devices don't have hard IDs ??? anyone? >From: "markfrancombe.com" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Let me into the mystical world of midi? >Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:54:57 +0100 > >Can one of you midi genuii help me with a spot of midi shit?? > >I need to map some knobs on my M-Audio Ozone keyboard to the atack and >decay parameters of my old GR30 guitar synth... Now Im doing this with no >trouble with my other synths, basically because the control change >assignments are printed in an easy to understand way in the manuals. >However, the GR30 has a few pages of mystical and miniscule faded text at >the back of the book that looks like this >00 00 0A ¦ 0E - 72 ¦ attack >this seems to be the relevant line.... out of pages and pages of these >weird runes... I know Its hex... but what do i do with it??? Can i get my >little keyboard to do this stuff or do i have to recite The book of lies >backwards while kneeling in a chalk circle... cos I already tried that and >it didnt work... > >please help > >Mark > >ps: anyone know how to get rid of demons? > > > > >mark francombe >marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for >www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >It has removed 6259 spam emails to date. >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >Try SPAMfighter for free now! _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song.  Get a customized station.  Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 19:29:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3229E3BEFB; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <001001c73bfb$50787490$5a01a8c0@mark> References: <001001c73bfb$50787490$5a01a8c0@mark> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8D0B9ABE-817A-4B72-B2AC-D4D7DFE68991@xmlizer.biz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: Let me into the mystical world of midi? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:28:57 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:29:05 +0000 (UTC) This pdf is maybe less faded than your hardcopy: http://www.spintepel.nl/gr30docs/GR-30_e.pdf Bernhard On Jan 19, 2007, at 19:54 :57, markfrancombe.com wrote: > I need to map some knobs on my M-Audio Ozone keyboard to the atack =20 > and decay parameters of my old GR30 guitar synth... Now Im doing =20 > this with no trouble with my other synths, basically because the =20 > control change assignments are printed in an easy to understand way =20= > in the manuals. However, the GR30 has a few pages of mystical and =20 > miniscule faded text at the back of the book that looks like this > 00 00 0A =A6 0E - 72 =A6 attack > this seems to be the relevant line.... out of pages and pages of =20 > these weird runes... I know Its hex... but what do i do with it??? =20 > Can i get my little keyboard to do this stuff or do i have to =20 > recite The book of lies backwards while kneeling in a chalk =20 > circle... cos I already tried that and it didnt work... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 19:32:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AE863BF0D; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070119133213.5fpb5b4vcog048g8@69.89.21.76> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:32:13 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Let me into the mystical world of midi? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:32:15 +0000 (UTC) > And while we are on this subject .... does anyone know how to seperate > midi devices? I currently have 4 connectoed to my computer .... > unfortunetaly the M-Audio XSession midi mixer uses midi commands that > are NoteOn commands, and some of the correspond to leys on my keyboard You will likely need to dedicate a MIDI channel to control your mixer. That would leave the other fifteen channels available for keyboards and other devices. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 19:53:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 593B53BEF6; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Let me into the mystical world of midi? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:53:05 -0600 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C1C151A@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <8D0B9ABE-817A-4B72-B2AC-D4D7DFE68991@xmlizer.biz> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Let me into the mystical world of midi? Thread-Index: Acc8ABXW3vI8edn4RSOAkzx+Ux+LgQAAeJsw From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:53:07 +0000 (UTC) [markfrancombe.com] > I need to map some knobs on my M-Audio Ozone keyboard to the attack > and decay parameters of my old GR30 guitar synth... Now Im doing =20 > this with no trouble with my other synths, basically because the =20 > control change assignments are printed in an easy to understand way =20 > in the manuals. However, the GR30 has a few pages of mystical and =20 > miniscule faded text at the back of the book that looks like this > 00 00 0A | 0E - 72 | attack > this seems to be the relevant line....=20 It looks like you cannot control attack and decay with simple MIDI Control Change messages. What you are seeing in the chart is an offset into a System Exclusive block and a range of values. You would need a controller capable of sending a SYSEX block formatted according to the template at the bottom left of page 95, with the parameter offset for attack substituted for the "Address" bytes and the desired value in the "Data" bytes. I'm not aware of any hardware controller that allows you to format SYSEX messages like this in response to turning a knob. Of course Max could do it :-) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 19:55:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F8A33BEF1; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1169236318.45b1215e5737a@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:51:58 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Let me into the mystical world of midi? References: <001001c73bfb$50787490$5a01a8c0@mark> In-Reply-To: <001001c73bfb$50787490$5a01a8c0@mark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark, I was able to find the midi spec for the GR30 online (http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/6226/charts.html), and what you are looking at is not for realtime control, but for patch configuration, and it is part of a sysex message which defines a patch for the GR30. And to clarify the meaning of the spec, the bytes 00 00 0A tell you that the Attack parameter is 0A (10) bytes from the start of the data, and the values can be 0E-72, which map to -50 to +50. Sadly it does not look like you can do what you want with a realtime control, as is the case for a variety of older midi devices. Now, I suppose one could create a piece of software that receives the knob movements and creates a whole new patch with the new value and then downloads that, BUT, not only would it be slow because the midi message 79 byets long (instead of 3 for a CC message), but, as well, I bet the synth engine would hiccup when loading a new patch while playing.. :) peace -cpr Quoting "markfrancombe.com" : > Can one of you midi genuii help me with a spot of midi shit?? > > I need to map some knobs on my M-Audio Ozone keyboard to the atack and decay > parameters of my old GR30 guitar synth... Now Im doing this with no trouble > with my other synths, basically because the control change assignments are > printed in an easy to understand way in the manuals. However, the GR30 has a > few pages of mystical and miniscule faded text at the back of the book that > looks like this > 00 00 0A ¦ 0E - 72 ¦ attack > this seems to be the relevant line.... out of pages and pages of these weird > runes... I know Its hex... but what do i do with it??? Can i get my little > keyboard to do this stuff or do i have to recite The book of lies backwards > while kneeling in a chalk circle... cos I already tried that and it didnt > work... > > please help > > Mark > > ps: anyone know how to get rid of demons? > > > > > mark francombe > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.org > and works at www.transformlearning.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 6259 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 20:19:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12A453BEFE; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <1169236318.45b1215e5737a@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <001001c73bfb$50787490$5a01a8c0@mark> <1169236318.45b1215e5737a@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--195309428 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Let me into the mystical world of midi? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:18:55 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:19:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--195309428 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> ps: anyone know how to get rid of demons? Prayer and gnashing of teeth! If that doesn't work: grind a ten year old garlic up on your keyboard. Make the sign of the cross in the dust (or a rough drawing of Ganesh if that's your preference)! In addition, you can make a compote of wolfsbane and soak your guitar's MIDI pickup in it for seven hours and thirty three seconds. No more or less or the spell doesn't work! When you've done all of these, walk backwards out of your studio while reciting the words to the Hallelujah Chorus. Best if it's loud enough that your neighbors (and angels) can hear you. Take your manuals with you. Go to your local coffee shop or bar (if so inclined), spend a day reading your manuals and drinking as needed. Then return home when the fumes have passed. You will notice the fog that surrounded your equipment is gone. The spirits have been purged. The music will be magic from here on. your friend Al Chemical richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 19-Jan-07, at 11:51 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: >> ps: anyone know how to get rid of demons? >> >> >> >> >> mark francombe >> marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for >> www.furthernoise.org >> and works at www.transformlearning.com >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 6259 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Try SPAMfighter for free now! >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > --Apple-Mail-4--195309428 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII ps: anyone know how to get rid of demons? Prayer and gnashing of teeth! If that doesn't work: grind a ten year old garlic up on your keyboard. Make the sign of the cross in the dust (or a rough drawing of Ganesh if that's your preference)! In addition, you can make a compote of wolfsbane and soak your guitar's MIDI pickup in it for seven hours and thirty three seconds. No more or less or the spell doesn't work! When you've done all of these, walk backwards out of your studio while reciting the words to the Hallelujah Chorus. Best if it's loud enough that your neighbors (and angels) can hear you. Take your manuals with you. Go to your local coffee shop or bar (if so inclined), spend a day reading your manuals and drinking as needed. Then return home when the fumes have passed. You will notice the fog that surrounded your equipment is gone. The spirits have been purged. The music will be magic from here on. your friend Al Chemical Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 19-Jan-07, at 11:51 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: ps: anyone know how to get rid of demons? mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6259 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. --Apple-Mail-4--195309428-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 20:26:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E3D83BEEC; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <003301c73c08$1b914a60$4001a8c0@mini> From: "CV" To: References: <001001c73bfb$50787490$5a01a8c0@mark> Subject: Re: Let me into the mystical world of midi? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:26:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Mark for an access of that param you need sys-ex and you are lucky because I ages ago I wrote a GR-30 editor for Soundiver so I can find the definitive answer for you! unfortunately you'll have to wait untill I go back to my studio where all this is in the computer.(monday) but I guess if you dont have any means to send Sys-ex to the gr-30 you are stuck pc1600X is excellent for this type of tweaks Claude markfrancombe.com wrote: > Can one of you midi genuii help me with a spot of midi shit?? > > I need to map some knobs on my M-Audio Ozone keyboard to the atack > and decay parameters of my old GR30 guitar synth... Now Im doing > this with no trouble with my other synths, basically because the > control change assignments are printed in an easy to understand way > in the manuals. However, the GR30 has a few pages of mystical and > miniscule faded text at the back of the book that looks like this > 00 00 0A ¦ 0E - 72 ¦ attack > this seems to be the relevant line.... out of pages and pages of > these weird runes... I know Its hex... but what do i do with it??? > Can i get my little keyboard to do this stuff or do i have to recite > The book of lies backwards while kneeling in a chalk circle... cos I > already tried that and it didnt work... > > please help > > Mark > > ps: anyone know how to get rid of demons? > > > > > mark francombe > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for > www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 6259 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 20:47:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1E5C3BEF6; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070119204742.3151.qmail@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YrtdPfLgnqhOStzT0Xoz1uOs+ZmPwCaHH6g8Jdsz0WKKpRbWKCRQik5XLBU7PJbCNNirbhVpUSq82pBJBfk2nN1ITSTHY1GWsS1WjZN0xQaHAv/gQOXH7diguKi/rGrhsex2HEMPn84d/BwKACr4AxCtjfzN16lcfFyxa42By9M=; X-YMail-OSG: BEtX268VM1nCuRu7wAqdEWpmF.7sDDUcm4vT3Oh_NmUURVD7IF79bEHCJzwW2RDJGA-- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: RE:ebay (was '69 martin 69k !) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B939@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1930613450-1169239662=:2552" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:47:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-1930613450-1169239662=:2552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'll echo Duncan's ebay strategy - email the seller with a routine but not obvious question and start a bit of an email back'n'forth. My usual email is to ask what the shipping will be to Canada (as that's where I live!) or if they'll accept cash which I'll send via courier. I do this regardless of how much the item is listed for. Based on their response, I think I can get a sense of them. I've only come close to getting screwed over once - a pawnshop in Virginia claimed they didn't receive the cash but a few phone calls to the USPS got things resolved. ted harms. "Goddard, Duncan" wrote: ... I've bought lots of stuff on ebay- over 200 items- some of them small & insignificant, sure, but I have also bought basses, guitars & keyboards for several thousand dollars. my rule (& this will vary for others, depending how much disposable income you have) is that anything that looks like it will go over $500 US, I will make some major effort to establish the character of the seller. ... "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard --------------------------------- Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. 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I'll echo Duncan's ebay strategy - email the seller with a routine but not obvious question and start a bit of an email back'n'forth.  My usual email is to ask what the shipping will be to Canada (as that's where I live!) or if they'll accept cash which I'll send via courier.  I do this regardless of how much the item is listed for.
 
Based on their response, I think I can get a sense of them.  I've only come close to getting screwed over once - a pawnshop in Virginia claimed they didn't receive the cash but a few phone calls to the USPS got things resolved.
 
 
ted harms.

"Goddard, Duncan" <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> wrote:
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I've bought lots of stuff on ebay- over 200 items- some of them small & insignificant, sure, but I have also bought basses, guitars & keyboards for several thousand dollars. my rule (& this will vary for others, depending how much disposable income you have) is that anything that looks like it will go over $500 US, I will make some major effort to establish the character of the seller.
...


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Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! --0-1930613450-1169239662=:2552-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 22:50:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE45B3BED3; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,213,1167638400"; d="scan'208,217"; a="170910378:sNHT26362700" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C73C1C.35FC2FF8" Subject: Stut-t-t-er effect Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:50:26 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070119195307.DD0A93BEFE@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Stut-t-t-er effect thread-index: Acc8A3ijDhCqpHd+QLKZX5YaK4zrNAAGBkkA From: "Veda, Qua" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2007 22:50:26.0836 (UTC) FILETIME=[3622F540:01C73C1C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:50:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C73C1C.35FC2FF8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I don't want to bother Rick at this time with this question. On this audio clips, he has some great vocal grooves going. I'm curious what devices are used to create the 'stutter' in the sounds that give them a percussive, rhythmic quality. Very inspiring work. Anyone know what h/w or s/w will create this effect ? =20 Also, I may want to try some vocal looping - quasi beat boxing - to see what happens. What mics are recommended for this application ? Thanks! -Qua ------_=_NextPart_001_01C73C1C.35FC2FF8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stut-t-t-er effect

Hi,
I don't want to = bother Rick at this time with this question.
On this audio clips, = he has some great vocal grooves going.  I'm curious what devices = are used to create the 'stutter' in the sounds that give them a = percussive, rhythmic quality.   Very inspiring = work.    Anyone know what h/w or s/w will create this = effect ?  

Also,  I may = want to try some vocal looping - quasi beat boxing -  to see what = happens.  What mics are recommended for this application = ?

Thanks!
-Qua

------_=_NextPart_001_01C73C1C.35FC2FF8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 22:52:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26F6B3BEDD; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=tgqf/R07IDc2D6YDlQFE2RvMZPx3wrhdVzx6X/fwI9wyfnhWuOBSVJK9ZSb493VsThqFtcj8F2xMjMVGKP6CAtpTAVCU01HWFhFL0GqrJeBLMupt9yL/NwaZdEZ66e/UJ1CbDfHQQJJ0rkIssCz4mQFRxtajgDN5JzCeRRFlXxA=; X-YMail-OSG: YgUq9HcVM1llDcsgUDksRsS_fwHw0uZ360C6b.IwHrqbPasd8QrY9BRwZV47xLGoJN80YU.0T.gk9o71NyXZXCc6PlvzlbfPaIUQrEaU3S5EDi8MXIxYpxAZrFtCAxuX6V624r1LCqBlnwFvgNckDiHd9YtvLcnG Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: LOOP CD TRADE OFFER: HsAcNoStEtN: "TRANSITION" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070119195307.CB2183BF04@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-483628828-1169247121=:38945" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <619228.38945.qm@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:52:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-483628828-1169247121=:38945 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, finished some recent recordings that i decided to call "Transition" due to gear changes and all... so decided to offer it up as a cd trade for anyone interested... recordings are my 1st attempts w/ my boss dd-20, using guitar (my modified headless beast w/ feedback microphone), keyboards (for sounds/noises) and radio (my john cage influences)..... thought the stuff sounded decent since i hadn't recorded anything since oct, recordings were done during dec 06-jan 07..... working on making cover/package this weekend......and assembling... if interested, please send your snail mail address to: scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu (put "cd trade: transition" in subject).... i like hearing what other folks do out there (on cd) b/c i don't sit at a computer much and listen to music..... thanks, happy looping.... s---- --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. --0-483628828-1169247121=:38945 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
hi, finished some recent recordings that i decided to call "Transition" due to gear
changes and all...
so decided to offer it up as a cd trade for anyone interested...
 
recordings are my 1st attempts w/ my boss dd-20, using guitar (my modified headless
beast w/ feedback microphone), keyboards (for sounds/noises) and radio (my john cage influences).....
thought the stuff sounded decent since i hadn't recorded anything since oct, recordings were done during dec 06-jan 07.....
working on making cover/package this weekend......and assembling...
if interested, please send your snail mail address to:
scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu (put "cd trade: transition" in subject)....
 
i like hearing what other folks do out there (on cd) b/c i don't sit at a computer much and listen to music.....
thanks, happy looping....
s----


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Small Business. --0-483628828-1169247121=:38945-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 19 22:58:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D469F3BEDE; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=loLUbbdPyg+6II8PVHJwZznYUQyT0U1TqwyDDjKDJVTF/gt4iRqkBTgxOgJzY5C7P+CHO2ItKOoMFIXED3vnPJfJka2+wsCYAdvVuSc2wuuXo0pGlZrC/edytCgrwslf8mK5z0OVDNPDUfK2EjqWgZagxR1UMLqqyebqV5uGF14= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <35A6E94D-4553-49CD-A646-795EE1EA4653@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Stut-t-t-er effect Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:58:54 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:58:58 +0000 (UTC) On 19 jan 2007, at 23.50, Veda, Qua wrote: > Hi, > I don't want to bother Rick at this time with this question. > On this audio clips, he has some great vocal grooves going. I'm > curious what devices are used to create the 'stutter' in the sounds > that give them a percussive, rhythmic quality. Very inspiring > work. Anyone know what h/w or s/w will create this effect ? Maybe, if you can specify what clip you mean by "this audio clips". > Also, I may want to try some vocal looping - quasi beat boxing - > to see what happens. What mics are recommended for this application ? > That and a lot more you will find at www.humanbeatbox.com. A great resource! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 00:22:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 296E83BED5; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=uEVWPZHCrD/IXYwHil2iAITjg9Vs5AT2bjiRHO+KeyGLelcZWSXBV9qkvCrV+VjORZJYqBjxlIjgoBRGIGRjO+ZBWRUWqiDFLpSDuQXq7qyLNLHlariU0Wbeyu63HQAPCOgatUH7t17tIUYC4u6xidNvQLaiejozQipRShwfs9w=; X-YMail-OSG: i2wEvHAVM1nejKA0AEcqpW5SjOlvJdYnmkMmbVKf4Rkq27Zh1JeQTwsno7Ndj6muT4VeG.L5YMqcgNNgAOP23uTdknG9eRey1DjMcPO_Om2CQZb8e8U- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:22:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: CT-GREAT SPEECHES is online ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45B0E282.4000706@hotmail.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <624058.2345.qm@web30013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8UGfU.A.zn.QDWsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:22:41 +0000 (UTC) I just listened to the whole thing, and I enjoyed it very much! This project flows very well, and all of the pieces sound like they belong together. Well done! -t- 'Rantai' CD: 'Mesh' CD: Chain Tape Collective: ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 02:32:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0D4B3BED2; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=QeYBA5oZMHVd+CWCkXBdpj+H3gB9jciJLgSxDsS8XmuK6GoACbKhtYWkExKrP4KT; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-reply-to:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; From: "ejyuhas" To: "'RICK WALKER'" , "'LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)'" Subject: RE: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:32:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: <01e001c73ac8$d0aa2430$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Thread-Index: Acc7ZXPiSB7v5o2xRBGIvZD0cVNYnAA1QZAg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: 22b7a950aa3e6c4dd780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcb0ffa52766fe8f4ab7630613bcd2329f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.34.63.126 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:32:21 +0000 (UTC) You guys are in my thoughts and prayers... Almost a year ago I lost my grandmother whom I was close with in my youth. She taught me my spirituality, how to cook Hungarian, play Old Maid cards, and who Fred Sanford was... Peace be with you... Ed in NJ -----Original Message----- From: RICK WALKER [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:21 AM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: Rick & Bill Walker NAMM cancellation Bill and I were headed down tomorrow evening to do the looperlative demonstration at NAMM and attend the annual loopers luncheon on Sunday but we have had to cancel our plans for the weekend because we just found out that are father passed away. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 03:51:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A0A43BED2; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60701181718m1da00ccfj9ca179d8ac0cac32@mail.gmail.com> References: <022f01c73a0d$07330b00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <9e0440a60701181718m1da00ccfj9ca179d8ac0cac32@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ed Drake Subject: New MIDI footpedal from Roland FC-300 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:51:00 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Loopers, I haven't seen this mentioned here yet so here goes. In our ongoing search for better midi control of our loopers, Roland has announced a new midi foot controller, the FC 300. http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=850 Unfortunately there isn't much info on the exact midi implementation of the pedal (notes, continuous controllers, channels, etc) so no way at this point to see if it's getting closer to the midi control of the legendary Digitech PMC 10 or not. There is no mention of price either. Loop on Ed From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 03:57:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DF5C3BED5; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <022f01c73a0d$07330b00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <9e0440a60701181718m1da00ccfj9ca179d8ac0cac32@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: New MIDI footpedal from Roland FC-300 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:57:40 -0500 Message-ID: <001d01c73c47$21f33500$0202fea9@mincer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc8RjUfnCzEIl89QzOiH4grSO4V0QAAHgeA X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: <6BE-eC.A.of.3MZsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:57:43 +0000 (UTC) What I read, most of the work went into controlling the new VG guitar system so it is 'plug and play' with that system. It uses an ethernet cable to display patch names, etc...but only for the VG system. It does have midi jacks though, so my guess is that Roland included just enough midi implementation to frustrate everyone (if history is a lesson). I will hold out for the 'Little Giant' add-on to the Behringer pedal. Dave Eichenberger- http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, no copies > > Loopers, > > I haven't seen this mentioned here yet so here goes. > > In our ongoing search for better midi control of our loopers, > Roland has announced a new midi foot controller, the FC 300. > > http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=850 > > Unfortunately there isn't much info on the exact midi > implementation of the pedal (notes, continuous controllers, > channels, etc) so no way at this point to see if it's getting > closer to the midi control of the legendary Digitech PMC 10 or not. > > There is no mention of price either. > > Loop on > > > Ed > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 06:28:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DCDB3BEC7; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.165] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com From: "samba -" Subject: FW: wha? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:28:27 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2007 06:28:32.0050 (UTC) FILETIME=[3499C920:01C73C5C] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Resent-Message-ID: <2qkPxC.A.lYG.SabsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:28:34 +0000 (UTC) 'Mach c'? Scientists observe sound traveling faster than the speed of light In this schematic of the acoustical test system, the scientists could create superluminal group velocity of sound waves, as well as negative group velocity. In the latter case, the peak of the output pulse traveling through the loop filter exited the filter before the peak of the input pulse had reached the beginning of the filter. Image credit: Bill Robertson, et al. For the first time, scientists have experimentally demonstrated that sound pulses can travel at velocities faster than the speed of light, c. William Robertson’s team from Middle Tennessee State University also showed that the group velocity of sound waves can become infinite, and even negative. Past experiments have demonstrated that the group velocities of other materials’ components—such as optical, microwave, and electrical pulses—can exceed the speed of light. But while the individual spectral components of these pulses have velocities very close to c, the components of sound waves are almost six orders of magnitude slower than light (compare 340 m/s to 300,000,000 m/s). “All of the interest in fast (and slow) wave velocity for all types of waves (optical, electrical, and acoustic) was initially to gain a fundamental understanding of the characteristics of wave propagation,” Robertson told PhysOrg.com. “Phase manipulation can change the phase relationship between these materials’ components. Using sound to create a group velocity that exceeds the speed of light is significant here because it dramatically illustrates this point, due to the large difference between the speeds of sound and light.” The experiment was conducted by two undergrads, an area high school teacher and two high school students, who received funding by an NSF STEP (Science, technology, engineering, math Talent Enhancement Program) grant. The grant aims to increase recruitment and retention of students to these subjects. In their experiment, the researchers achieved superluminal sound velocity by rephasing the spectral components of the sound pulses, which later recombine to form an identical-looking part of the pulse much further along within the pulse. So it’s not the actual sound waves that exceed c, but the waves’ “group velocity,” or the “length of the sample divided by the time taken for the peak of a pulse to traverse the sample.” “The sound-faster-than-light result will not be a surprise to the folks who work closely in this area because they recognize that the group velocity (the velocity that the peak of a pulse moves) is not merely connected to the velocity of all of the frequencies that superpose to create that pulse,” explained Robertson, “but rather to the manner in which a material or a filter changes the phase relationship between these components. By appropriate phase manipulation (rephasing) the group velocity can be increased or decreased.” To rephase the spectral components, the sound waves were sent through an asymmetric loop filter on a waveguide of PVC pipe, about 8 m long. The 0.65-meter loop split the sound waves into two unequal path lengths, resulting in destructive interference and standing wave resonances that together created transmission dips at regular frequencies. Due to anomalous dispersion (which changes the wave speed), sound pulses traveling through the loop filter arrived at the exit sooner than pulses traveling straight through the PVC. With this experiment, the group velocity could actually reach an infinitely small amount of time, although the individual spectral components still travel at the speed of sound. “We also achieved what is known as a ‘negative group velocity,’ a situation in which the peak of the output pulse exits the filter before the peak of the input pulse has reached the beginning of the filter,” explained Robertson. “Using the definition for speed as being equal to distance divided by time, we measured a negative time and thus realized a negative velocity.” It might not seem that a negative velocity would exceed the speed of light, but in this case, Robertson said, the speed of the pulse is actually much faster than c. “Consider the pulse speed in a slightly less dramatic case,” Robertson said. “Say the peak of the output pulse exits the filter at exactly the same time as the input pulse reaches the beginning. In this less dramatic case, the transit time is zero and the speed (distance divided by zero) is infinite. So we were beyond infinite! (‘To infinity and beyond,’ to steal a line from Toy Story.) In our experiment, we measured a negative transit time corresponding to a negative group velocity of -52 m/s.” Although such results may at first appear to violate special relativity (Einstein’s law that no material object can exceed the speed of light), the actual significance of these experiments is a little different. These types of superluminal phenomena, Robertson et al. explain, violate neither causality nor special relativity, nor do they enable information to travel faster than c. In fact, theoretical work had predicted that the superluminal speed of the group velocity of sound waves should exist. “The key to understanding this seeming paradox is that no wave energy exceeded the speed of light,” said Robertson. “Because we were passing the pulse through a filter, the sped-up pulse was much smaller (by more than a factor of 10) than the input pulse. Essentially, the pulse that made it through the filter was an exact (but smaller) replica of the input pulse. This replica is carved from the leading edge of the input pulse. At all times, the net energy of the wave crossing the filter region was equal to, or less than, the energy that would have arrived if the input pulse had been traveling in a straight pipe instead of through the filter.” Is this phenomenon simply the result of a clever set-up, or can it actually occur in the real world? According to the scientists, the interference that occurs in the loop filter is directly analogous to the “comb filtering” effect in architectural acoustics, where sound interference occurs between sound directly from a source and that reflected by a hard surface. “The superluminal acoustic effect we have described is likely a ubiquitous but imperceptible phenomenon in the everyday world,” the scientists conclude. Citation: Robertson, W., Pappafotis, J., Flannigan, P., Cathey, J., Cathey, B., and Klaus, C. “Sound beyond the speed of light: Measurement of negative group velocity in an acoustic loop filter.” Applied Physics Letters 90, 014102 (2007). By Lisa Zyga, Copyright 2006 PhysOrg.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed in whole or part without the express written permission of PhysOrg.com. 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Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <8BFA964E-D082-4F52-B110-04ABD11A5EBD@surfbest.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-17--157204077 From: Richard Roberts Subject: Wha? Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:54:00 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:52:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-17--157204077 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed For goodness sake, PLEASE give us the link to the schematic they're referring to! Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen >'Mach c'? Scientists observe sound traveling faster than the speed of light --Apple-Mail-17--157204077 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 For goodness sake, PLEASE give = us the link to the schematic they're referring to!

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no = longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case = when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen

=A0>'Mach c'? Scientists = observe sound traveling faster than the speed of light

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= --Apple-Mail-17--157204077-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 06:59:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A851C3BED3; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: cburke55@comcast.net (Christophe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Wha? Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:59:54 +0000 Message-Id: <012020070659.19115.45B1BDEA0001B6B300004AAB2207300033CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: Y2J1cmtlNTVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19115_1169276394_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:59:55 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19115_1169276394_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Here's the article, with schematic. http://www.physorg.com/news88249076.html -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Richard Roberts > For goodness sake, PLEASE give us the link to the schematic they're > referring to! > > Richard Roberts > ZERO OHMS > > "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is > more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by > another human being: music." > - Karlheinz Stockhausen > > >'Mach c'? Scientists observe sound traveling faster than the speed > of light > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19115_1169276394_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: Richard Roberts To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Wha? Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:52:11 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19115_1169276394_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19115_1169276394_1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 For goodness sake, PLEASE give = us the link to the schematic they're referring to!

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no = longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case = when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen

=A0>'Mach c'? Scientists = observe sound traveling faster than the speed of light

=

= --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19115_1169276394_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_19115_1169276394_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 07:42:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6D033BED3; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <038301c73c66$8b804ac0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Gratitude Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:42:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:42:29 +0000 (UTC) I wanted to thank all the people on this list who have been so wonderful and gracious in their outpouring of sympathy and condolences at Bill's and my Father's passing. I think of the people on this list as part of my extended family and you all provide me with a great sense of belonging at this difficult time. Bless you all and thanks from the bottom of my heart. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 08:31:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 647B23BED6; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EY9lgOeL86JqsEarAnqTKHJif98F6v4GeLqIUkUCNbJ6HVWP2w92D1f5MNEYdoLDFQw0wttlGBfKvyRgeH7iSF2UPvqfod46r3BFMP2WUo7aRcNHuHtLhVV4Fg2Ze8+gV7K7/567NxnGG9Vgu7PgLm9ly0my/LUI3Ft+N9I2PdQ= Message-ID: <9e0440a60701200031h2e19f72cjd5878b932898df40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:31:14 -0800 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NAMM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <022f01c73a0d$07330b00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:31:17 +0000 (UTC) max as it turned out when I spoke to fred today at the Godin booth he was happy to put me in for a perform slot. i'll be playing later today at 430 - will be around earlier and look forward to meeting and hearing you. cheers jim On 1/17/07, max valentino wrote: > Hi gang..... > I know this is kinda a late post, but I have been unable to post anything to > this list lately (and am wondering if this will actually make it...wassup > wit dat?)---and there have been a number of threads I have wanted to chime > in on lately as well--- > > I will be at NAMM performing and looping up at the Godin Booth on Sat. My > times are (tentatively) 11am 2pm and 4pm Sat. I will be demo-ing (not > demoning, as Mr. Billzebubba is doing elsewhere) the new Godin synth-access > acoustic-electric basses, and I will using my JamMan (the old Lexi model) > updated with the new Bob Sellon upgrades (which someone wrote in asking > about---I have been using this system for a while now, and while it still is > not an EDP, it greatly enhances the JamDude, and I agree the JamBoy > certainly has a sunjectivel;y "better" sound for looping with bass....) > > I will pop in on the Looperlative booth (where I know y'all will be hanging > out) and hope to meet up with you if I can. > > Max > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodin.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 10:34:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C1773BEE1; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Ed Drake Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:34:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Roland FC-300 & great speeches Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <45B1F040.18536.19B0F7@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:34:50 +0000 (UTC) On 19 Jan 2007 at 22:51, Ed Drake wrote: > http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=850 I'll be surprised if it does much more than the behringer FCB1010, upon which it appears to be modelled (although there's only so much you can do) and I bet it's a lot more expensive. I just wish these people would realise floor space is generally in short supply and give us one with a minimal footprint. And surely if you include a USB setup, you could save internal device costs by having your computer do the programming. Ah well. My thanks to Fabio for co-ordinating it. My piece is from a speech by Winston Churchill and I've tried for a subtle reference to "nightingales and bombers" towards the end. ct-online is a great way to break out of your typical composing styles - I can fully recommend it. "My" project, Paper Music, should be happening soon. All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 11:49:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D2CC3BED8; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <012801c73c88$f459c090$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: References: Subject: Re: Let me into the mystical world of midi? Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:48:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to all that reponded to my message, I think I sussed out that unfortunately I cant do what i needed... cos i need to send sysex and this is a hardware thang i have here, not software... and maybe its not for doing the same as a cc anyway... C'est la Vie... the GR 30 has been a trusty box for me for a while now, but i guess its nearing the end of its usefullness... cant get rid of it tho, what could replace the arpegiator??? mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 12:00:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97A833BED3; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=QIlCc5bgjgZiOObMIZHtCedQCwoJ5Be/Rs5wXO0sJndYjB3A5+Flmo8yK5hQpc72ix3IHICTWDTnvB52gLv7+1enQ73cNfM4Kd72Pj2NPpwMVeTIwU3pGpicjhAitj/l8tWV/zPwR3vMhIbhf4SxADCR6VvmUj4n8LyP0Q7SI0s= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <022f01c73a0d$07330b00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <9e0440a60701181718m1da00ccfj9ca179d8ac0cac32@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <288ABD6A-4A42-4F80-85E7-5D9242435591@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: New MIDI footpedal from Roland FC-300 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:00:16 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:00:27 +0000 (UTC) On 20 jan 2007, at 04.51, Ed Drake wrote: > Loopers, > > I haven't seen this mentioned here yet so here goes. > > In our ongoing search for better midi control of our loopers, =20 > Roland has announced a new midi foot controller, the FC 300. > > http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=3D850 > > Unfortunately there isn't much info on the exact midi =20 > implementation of the pedal (notes, continuous controllers, =20 > channels, etc) so no way at this point to see if it's getting =20 > closer to the midi control of the legendary Digitech PMC 10 or not. > > There is no mention of price either. > > Loop on You're right about not much info available. But there is a PDF manual =20= available for the FC-200, which seems to be a little bigger. This =20 looks good: > =95 Control Mode and Note Mode > Control and Note modes allow you to assign different > controllers or note numbers to each of the FC-200=92s foot > switches (external foot switches can be assigned as > well). But I wouldn't buy a FC-300 until confirming it can do the same. I =20 also like a little more buttons because I like to use a bank =20 dedicated to playing pitch transposition of the loop and then it's =20 nice to have at least one octave's span. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 17:17:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98D2B3BECA; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=eGu89llmzi3rHQ2aTx7xeApHEB6j1eJnuWqrt+UgiH4PmsFnYUK3OxFRjLYcKQXquhk36vtZqQNkptplGG1Kwtalbmp9D9kTfD0RBpAv7t273AkpwZZ0DaQMqR7b9eyopoDoXoDkDJIzgzjY6TXyg8nxcm7eKjRTGZ4U4ZNvT+M= Message-ID: <6f5c10f00701200917i6b3d3356wcc7a580ff1f48a7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:17:50 -0500 From: "John K." To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FS: Boomerang Phrase Sampler (Version 2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:17:56 +0000 (UTC) For Sale: MINT Boomerang Phrase Sampler (Version 2) Still in original box, comes complete with manual, warranty card, adapter. Please email me for more details. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 18:42:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D51923BEC1; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: JzGj3uUVM1nO92Jgs62b.L9_gqMlR6nyQUknFq9eqZSoltCOn.RzorKOiPn5xJmhxQzVbLwu2GmGxctK0L8SmrrLH_FWsthUOB3uPQLI75EFnSHQ1ZNNjcxBlvR3YYAplgF9GF2XPgtreOs.t1wtI38djnFeSt6G_Ds- From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: How do I? (EDP question) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:42:03 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <6f5c10f00701200917i6b3d3356wcc7a580ff1f48a7d@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:42:20 +0000 (UTC) I'm missing something. How do I set it up so that when I hit the Next Loop button it waits until the current loop is finished. I think it has something to do with Quantize but I can't figure it out. Also, which pedal are you folks using to control feedback (those that do)? Thanks! ~peace~ Plish (still patiently waiting for my new pots from British Audio Supplies...) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 18:46:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 164923BECD; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=srsCs1Uosc83Sz8eMkvPwOoFAK5JWWGo2+gvld1kbaRdB0c1xIX3xCa6ka3LZh3dZbZ3xxzM0eHsVxtii5d3MLpzvXj59hAu3JzCQ1KpiF1ik8NoztCx6tPw/wFWTL6MG7GpG1RGw1ijd4u+vbkhasnNHbQOK8mZ38QLl5k8JvU= In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: How do I? (EDP question) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:46:28 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:46:38 +0000 (UTC) On 20 jan 2007, at 19.42, Michael Plishka wrote: > I'm missing something. How do I set it up so that when I hit the > Next Loop > button it waits until the current loop is finished. I think it has > something > to do with Quantize but I can't figure it out. > > Also, which pedal are you folks using to control feedback (those > that do)? "SwitchQuant". It's marked out on the front panel. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 18:48:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A823E3BEDE; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: Fjmi0r4VM1njDraY4Lx21EJeCz_.ENrkuCi0a5CkeSAveAfd28D5t_b6GEj4XJG2g7CctuhFlfOTsBLh7C96ALJQ55rQEIX9AakgKn2GR5ByzTf4mV0IEi8XIad1JnkF1jjVM4Fpd8CbZn0- From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: RE: How do I? (EDP question) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:48:37 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <-RJ6UD.A.T7E.WQmsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Bingo! You rock, Per~! Thanks! Plish -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:46 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How do I? (EDP question) On 20 jan 2007, at 19.42, Michael Plishka wrote: > I'm missing something. How do I set it up so that when I hit the > Next Loop > button it waits until the current loop is finished. I think it has > something > to do with Quantize but I can't figure it out. > > Also, which pedal are you folks using to control feedback (those > that do)? "SwitchQuant". It's marked out on the front panel. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 19:06:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBA593BEEC; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1T9u+VYE2/NZ8hhGjhamfnWLY48gMbOBNS43wqytpT6dSScptV1Qt/vYfCSVW/mdKeNmaZQwuT/BPhpu5vPCHBtO0b8oUvTPLUh0quh4sZRBTCFpNT2jbCjFcUSSMc6rmbTrAXsL02NebxIn7cTzz4oSbIb0BPpuxDu/+BNHPR4=; X-YMail-OSG: PGzYIR4VM1k2ffxhDj9k_6cxXglLPN_VEkW4NJkr7d6fwXDJhzlJ_.vMq5uefA0rS12h8riVXv5RxKRl_ir2XhG.cdXiJlnoFs76LoqRYBm0.IQQmak- Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:06:12 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Stut-t-t-er effect To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <957801.89157.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, I'm just guessing here but there are different ways to do this. You can trigger a vocoder with percussion on the modulator input. You can side chain a compressor/downward expander with a percussion sound. You can trigger a KEPEX with a percussion sound Etc. Rig --- "Veda, Qua" wrote: > Hi, > I don't want to bother Rick at this time with this > question. > On this audio clips, he has some great vocal grooves > going. I'm curious > what devices are used to create the 'stutter' in the > sounds that give > them a percussive, rhythmic quality. Very > inspiring work. Anyone > know what h/w or s/w will create this effect ? > > Also, I may want to try some vocal looping - quasi > beat boxing - to > see what happens. What mics are recommended for > this application ? > > Thanks! > -Qua > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 19:10:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 229483BEDE; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=G07cI3aT5pS16iqTx6qicAFyB6EBKuNwvQRfqszQEufcx9FLhYo5uFGbxdl1QWC2tpM/jTylu5mOGoay7Qx0eHRWbSK3LgwehnM6BHus7NWh2f5GoupAoxuGzk02bbSBA3I9FxgVs/cVkeKCs1T6NI6kyXVqPOKgag0J7XnzPxg= In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: How do I? (EDP question) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:10:02 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:10:15 +0000 (UTC) On 20 jan 2007, at 19.48, Michael Plishka wrote: >> Also, which pedal are you folks using to control feedback (those >> that do)? oops... I missed that one ;-) I have an analog volume pedal that can be plugged into the rear "feedback"jack. But I rarely use that one, since prefer the MIDI expression pedal on the Behringer FCB1010. If using a MIDI pedal sending MIDI CC# data you need to tell the EDP which MICI CC# it is. There are 128 to chose from. The EDP front panel menu to enter this info at is marked "FeedBkCont". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 20 21:01:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E62F3BECD; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:01:30 -0600 From: "Sandy Rowles" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How do I? (EDP question) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_210313_21938155.1169326890111" References: <6f5c10f00701200917i6b3d3356wcc7a580ff1f48a7d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1pNAPD.A.u9B.rMosFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:01:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_210313_21938155.1169326890111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I USE THE BEHRINGER FCB1010 FOR FEEDBACK, VOLUME, AND ALL OTHER CONTROLS OF THE EDP. IT WORKS QUITE WELL AND IS PRETTY CHEAP. On 1/20/07, Michael Plishka wrote: > > I'm missing something. How do I set it up so that when I hit the Next > Loop > button it waits until the current loop is finished. I think it has > something > to do with Quantize but I can't figure it out. > > Also, which pedal are you folks using to control feedback (those that do)? > > Thanks! > > ~peace~ > > Plish (still patiently waiting for my new pots from British Audio > Supplies...) > > ------=_Part_210313_21938155.1169326890111 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I USE THE BEHRINGER FCB1010 FOR FEEDBACK,  VOLUME,  AND ALL OTHER CONTROLS OF THE EDP.  IT WORKS QUITE WELL AND IS PRETTY CHEAP.

On 1/20/07, Michael Plishka <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
I'm missing something.  How do I set it up so that when I hit the Next Loop
button it waits until the current loop is finished. I think it has something
to do with Quantize but I can't figure it out.

Also, which pedal are you folks using to control feedback (those that do)?

Thanks!

~peace~

Plish (still patiently waiting for my new pots from British Audio
Supplies...)


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 08:30:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B24B73BECD; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [67.120.75.154] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120203742.081cad70@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:50:17 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: New MIDI footpedal from Roland FC-300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <00d_kB.A.cy.8SysFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:30:52 +0000 (UTC) At 08:31 PM 1/20/2007, Kim Flint wrote: >At 07:51 PM 1/19/2007, Ed Drake wrote: >>In our ongoing search for better midi control of our loopers, Roland >>has announced a new midi foot controller, the FC 300. >> >>http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=850 >> >>Unfortunately there isn't much info on the exact midi implementation >>of the pedal (notes, continuous controllers, channels, etc) so no way >>at this point to see if it's getting closer to the midi control of >>the legendary Digitech PMC 10 or not. I took a look at the FC-300 at NAMM. Unfortunately there was nobody around the roland booth who seemed likely to explain it in detail. But fortunately Roland left one powered on sitting next to the guy doing VG-99 demos. So I just sat down next to it and started poking the buttons. I can't say I really figured it out, because the interface is a bit arcane. But what I can say is: - there is a "mode" concept, where you can be in a controller mode, a patch change mode, or a "sysex" mode that appears only intended for working with the VG-99. In controller mode you only set up controllers, patch mode only patches, etc. (at least that is what I interpreted from the cryptic interface.) - I only ever saw possibility of programming continuous controller or program change messages. I never saw any other MIDI message in any of the editing screens. So I don't think there is any option of Note messages, StartSong, StopSong, etc, etc,. Program Change and CC, that is all you get. - Switches apparently can be programmed as momentary or latching, which may be good news for echoplex users as this may possibly work using CC messages to control the EDP. Seems well constructed, but definitely this is not the PMC-10 resurrection. Nice if used with the VG-99, since there is two way communication and updates on the VG-99 appear on the pedal display. Anyway, that is the best I could figure about it. Hopefully better information begins appearing. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 08:31:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 948033BEE8; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [67.120.75.154] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120205122.047d2c50@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:20:10 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: new delay pedal from Eventide In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20070119082122.01560c68@pop.powweb.com> References: <9e0440a60612311704w6e6c7bf0q26563a9d1f25ab13@mail.gmail.co m> <5.2.1.1.0.20070119082122.01560c68@pop.powweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <0sbBwD.A.O5.FTysFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:31:01 +0000 (UTC) At 08:23 AM 1/19/2007, you wrote: >Interesting to see Eventide come out with a line (2) of stompboxes. >TimeFactor appears to have a looper mode. > >http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2007/01/namm-eventide-time-factor-superhot.html >http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.jsp?msgid=1169171234352 >http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ I talked to one of the developers at the Eventide booth. They plan to ship it end of March or Early April. MSRP is $499 if I remember right. This is mainly a delay pedal with a looper built into it. The developer said for the looper they were aiming for something between the DL-4 and the Boomerang. Some specs: - 12 second stereo looper - tapped record start/end - Record into overdub - loop beginning/ending trim controls - loop speed control (pitch and length change together with a knob.) - feedback control. he wasn't too sure of details how this should work and was asking my advice. This feature is still being developed. - MIDI control (MIDI in/out jacks are on the side) - MIDI clock sync (for the delays). It wasn't implemented for the looper when I talked to them, we will see if it gets added. - USB port - jacks for assignable external expression pedal and footswitch. They are still working on the looper section, so he was asking for advice about features. Before you jump on this, be sure to check out the Damage Control delay/looper pedal also. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 08:31:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAD8D3BED6; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [67.120.75.154] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120212029.047bdc70@annihilist.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:57:35 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Damage Control Delay/Looper Pedal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:31:11 +0000 (UTC) At NAMM there is another new delay/looper pedal, The Damage Control Timeline. http://www.damagecontrolusa.com/tml.htm - 20 second 2 track looper - very nice looking delay functions (meant to be a DD-20 killer I think) - The looper is tapped record start/stop and overdub. Not much more. - click/metronome with volume and tone control - 2 tracks have independent pan and volume - 96KHz/24 bit audio in the digital section - completed midi control - midi clock loop sync - tap tempo loop sync - tube input stage and output stage, biased at 250V These are the same guys who designed the ADAT for Alesis and then formed Line6, now they have gone off to start another new company. They have a whole line of tube based foot pedals, distributed by Peavey. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 08:58:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 500133BED0; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: fabio anile Reply-To: fabio anile To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: CT-GREAT SPEECHES IS OUT ! Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:47:53 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi people, I' m proud to announce that the CT-GREAT SPEECHES project is now online and free to download. Thanks to all members, for theyr creativity, patience and ispiration. Here's is the link: http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=24 and - for those of you who are interested - a "Listening guide" to the project. As usual, comments are welcome. Fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ www.myspace.com/eterogeneo Listening guide to the CT-Great Speech project The aim of this project is to compose a music to "furnish" a famous speech. A "great speech" is a speech that has a relevant historical, religious, political, or social content. First time I started to think at this project was when I worked on a film about the Apollo 11 moon landing. The interesting part of that work was to think to the speech as a part of the music, the leading part. Nothing new compared to My life in a bush of ghost (Brian Eno - David Byrne, 1981), but it was new for me experimenting the Eno-Byrne creative process. I started to work on other speeches and when I realized that it would take most part of the time i’ve to spend in music, I open it to the CT-Collective. I'm now proud to announce the publishing of the CT-Great Speeches project, my first experience as a CT-Collective project coordinator. This was an amazing experience for many reasons: different musical approaches and speeches choosen by the members, different ways of working on the samples and many contacts with skilled musicians, from all around the world. It's interesting notate that some members have choosen speeches regarding similar events or content: 2nd world war, missions in space and spirituality are three recourring themes in this CD. That inspired me to create a playlist accordingly to these three themes and here's how it works. The CD starts with a great dense, obscure and emotional atmosphere, where you can hear the famous W. Churchill’s one-line quote, "we'll fight 'em on the beaches" (1). Next songs contain the tone colored declaration of war (2) by the italian dictator B. Mussolini, in a crescendo rock track. It's interesting notice that both songs end with a sample (birds in the 1st, a child crying in th 2nd) that introduce a reality context. The third song contains a Michael Moore speech, about the U.S. President G. Bush feeling like God (3); M. Frank had built a very rithmic and straordinarly accessible track. The Meaning of God is the original title of the speech held by M. Gandhi that appears, after an ethereal looping textures, in Misterious Power (4), the song i composed for this project. As it was the dark side compared to the Gandhi message, follows the intense composition by Mike Fazio, about the The Jim Jones Jonestown Cult Suicide Speech (5). Moon 1969 (6) opens the edge of space missions. Just announced, like in the JFK speech, altered by Michael Peters in an onomatopoeic way, as it seems that you’re starting to fly ; or followed step by step, with an ear to the President R. Reagan announcing the mission and an ear to a radio station that was broadcasting in real time the Challenger Tragedy (7), like in the obscure ambient song composed by Milco Montagna. Spirit and science converge in a unique element in the A. Hofman speech choosen by Anders Ostberg for his drone track, about a new natural wiev of life (8). Artificious is the starting point for the (impossible) 17 U.S. Presidents conference (9) Norelpref created. As an answer to all that politics talking, i’ve put Now is the time (10) contains a part of the famous I’ve a dream speech held by M. L. King in Washington in 1963 (10). I compose it before starting the CT project, and even if i’ve encouraged the members to take in account this speech, noone used it. So i put it here, thinking it could be a good final song. At the end, i feel it was an interesting experience where all members work hard to get the best idea, or musical and technical approach and inspiration. Thanks to you all for your work, collaboration and patience, i’ll hope it will be a second CT-Great Speeches project to follow. Fabio Anile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 09:21:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB3AA3BED3; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aKrpoyqC6gvC0HPHSmI1bvXwlqRnu97od3MzJOfvCcSKIa+UuxwwcA9O4o5jeJYY1Evg7caSZr8tGJ09P2fnNHkBfJ+iVHZxpS9LE6YiWXlf1a8YspgvHFozcdlu5K89h1uBWMMqjSz6Jd9TaIg3OQKRtJlNGRYmrQ/JAwyKHwk=; X-YMail-OSG: 58ZrNz0VM1mL2iubRXubkalnrdEDSCWZXU.7k.dekf560IVjx57Y6apD0BEwhY3VkXARSd17YPIv6VEPhu_NGtGKOnL9qRzCIcuww3bXyJyqBS7GAtY- Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:21:18 +0000 (GMT) From: MATTHEW STEVENS Subject: LOOP ON MYSPACE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1910905370-1169371278=:67224" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <194510.67224.qm@web86105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:21:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-1910905370-1169371278=:67224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Loopers Hello - my name is Matt - I do acoustic loop based music ~(live looping) Can anyone recomend Myspace Groups related to looping? Does anyone do live acoustic looping? Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler and a few others. Best Regards Matt www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar --0-1910905370-1169371278=:67224 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello Loopers
 
Hello - my name is Matt - I do acoustic loop based music ~(live looping)
 
Can anyone recomend Myspace Groups related to looping?
 
Does anyone do live acoustic looping?
 
Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler and a few others.
 
Best Regards
 
Matt
www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar
--0-1910905370-1169371278=:67224-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 09:29:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86A003BED3; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6f6yqB0fr4fv0tnp2JUT1UVnqssTRIVwewG/iEbyoI/54t+Jrv18fK5Q6r8qPkTlqADnQNvuEyGIL2gWLBkKLPCPWyVQB4G4EbTt8SHNqC96gSauKvWJT/JOO9UizC7/o1Fz3KVSbUO4vANOCIWVMwe8sHnCys8x740eukzAnXk= ; Message-ID: <20070121092939.84815.qmail@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pXeFLOEVM1m_V7PmrVS7SZvkmidWdPiyDj6DDZz4eilwrx0R4JcWKOT.dn6VUQ9B7A-- Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:29:39 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Vedr. Re: new delay pedal from Eventide To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120205122.047d2c50@loopers-delight.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! Tell me- why dont "looper delight gurus" teache the makers of looping-tool- what a greate looping-tool need ? Everyone would benefite on this. RF --- Kim Flint skrev: > At 08:23 AM 1/19/2007, you wrote: > >Interesting to see Eventide come out with a line > (2) of stompboxes. > >TimeFactor appears to have a looper mode. > > > >http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2007/01/namm-eventide-time-factor-superhot.html > >http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.jsp?msgid=1169171234352 > >http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ > > I talked to one of the developers at the Eventide > booth. They plan to ship > it end of March or Early April. MSRP is $499 if I > remember right. > > This is mainly a delay pedal with a looper built > into it. The developer > said for the looper they were aiming for something > between the DL-4 and the > Boomerang. Some specs: > > - 12 second stereo looper > - tapped record start/end > - Record into overdub > - loop beginning/ending trim controls > - loop speed control (pitch and length change > together with a knob.) > - feedback control. he wasn't too sure of details > how this should work and > was asking my advice. This feature is still being > developed. > - MIDI control (MIDI in/out jacks are on the side) > - MIDI clock sync (for the delays). It wasn't > implemented for the looper > when I talked to them, we will see if it gets added. > - USB port > - jacks for assignable external expression pedal and > footswitch. > > > They are still working on the looper section, so he > was asking for advice > about features. > > Before you jump on this, be sure to check out the > Damage Control > delay/looper pedal also. > > kim > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | > http://www.loopers-delight.com > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 09:33:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4BFE3BEE6; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: xiV16zYVM1lYezzrUmV4dXqRplZ5K4_50xg7Pif0m0qgwouyuX9mb1cUorEJ6kjg54irEUkG0KLAl6hJMWZAbVmZ12n8bHwuamlJChI2NB2N4WJ8fX1hHkg73XuwKWKqSe9eK1UHEFZItZ4- From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: RE: LOOP ON MYSPACE Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:33:22 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C73D0C.E6F471F0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <194510.67224.qm@web86105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <2n2Cy.A.-RD.0NzsFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:33:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C73D0C.E6F471F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome aboard Matt! I believe we already know ach other through myspace ;-) More of my stuff will be up soon by the way! peace~ Plish -----Original Message----- From: MATTHEW STEVENS [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:21 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LOOP ON MYSPACE Hello Loopers Hello - my name is Matt - I do acoustic loop based music ~(live looping) Can anyone recomend Myspace Groups related to looping? Does anyone do live acoustic looping? Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler and a few others. Best Regards Matt www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C73D0C.E6F471F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Welcome aboard Matt!

I believe=20 we already know ach other through myspace = ;-)
 
More of my stuff will be up soon by the=20 way!
 
peace~
 
Plish
 -----Original = Message-----
From:=20 MATTHEW STEVENS = [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com]
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Subject: LOOP ON=20 MYSPACE

Hello Loopers
 
Hello - my name is Matt - I do acoustic loop based music ~(live=20 looping)
 
Can anyone recomend Myspace Groups related to looping?
 
Does anyone do live acoustic looping?
 
Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler = and a=20 few others.
 
Best Regards
 
Matt
=
www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C73D0C.E6F471F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 09:36:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C58E3BEE7; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120212029.047bdc70@annihilist.com> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120212029.047bdc70@annihilist.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <64D3C387-41EA-47FB-8291-5ACAEA9E4D3A@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Subject: Re: Damage Control Delay/Looper Pedal Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:36:15 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:36:19 +0000 (UTC) that thing seems pretty serious. I wonder if the midi control changes are smoother than the DL4's expression pedal. I use the DL4 for dub type echo live and I'm a bit disappointed with it's response with the expression pedal. it would also be nice to have more presets although the thought of more pedals just to control this thing is not appealing. the Eventide looks good too. I already use the RC-50 and Electro Harmonix 16 second delay for looping with great results, so I'm not so interested in the loopers in these 2 pedals. But it's great to know the options. THANKS for the info Kim. Teddy -- PS. -- check out the latest extreme hippe dance music http://myspace.com/mistershifty On Jan 21, 2007, at 12:57 AM, Kim Flint wrote: > At NAMM there is another new delay/looper pedal, The Damage Control > Timeline. > http://www.damagecontrolusa.com/tml.htm > > - 20 second 2 track looper > - very nice looking delay functions (meant to be a DD-20 killer I > think) > - The looper is tapped record start/stop and overdub. Not much more. > - click/metronome with volume and tone control > - 2 tracks have independent pan and volume > - 96KHz/24 bit audio in the digital section > - completed midi control > - midi clock loop sync > - tap tempo loop sync > - tube input stage and output stage, biased at 250V > > > These are the same guys who designed the ADAT for Alesis and then > formed Line6, now they have gone off to start another new company. > They have a whole line of tube based foot pedals, distributed by > Peavey. > > kim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 10:57:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C61C83BED2; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <194510.67224.qm@web86105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <194510.67224.qm@web86105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <9a28dbf2b0ee35b41deddb04e2d5c892@gmx.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: nico spahni Subject: Re: LOOP ON MYSPACE Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:56:18 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi Matt I've recently incorporated acoustic guitar into my live looping act=20 "ambient guitar landscapes". Sound (and maybe video) clips will follow=20= shortly. Cheers Nico www.myspace.com/nicospahni www.recpro.ch Am 21.01.2007 um 10:21 schrieb MATTHEW STEVENS: > Hello Loopers > =A0 > Hello - my name is Matt - I do acoustic loop based music ~(live=20 > looping) > =A0 > Can anyone recomend Myspace Groups related to looping? > =A0 > Does anyone do live acoustic looping? > =A0 > Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler and=20= > a few others. > =A0 > Best Regards > =A0 > Matt > www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 11:33:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E6863BED5; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <002c01c73d4f$e47804d0$4001a8c0@mini> From: "CV" To: References: <9e0440a60612311704w6e6c7bf0q26563a9d1f25ab13@mail.gmail.co m> <5.2.1.1.0.20070119082122.01560c68@pop.powweb.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20070120205122.047d2c50@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: new delay pedal from Eventide Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:32:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Beware Italoooooo is comming back!!!!! :=) Claude > At 08:23 AM 1/19/2007, you wrote: >>Interesting to see Eventide come out with a line (2) of stompboxes. >>TimeFactor appears to have a looper mode. >> >>http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2007/01/namm-eventide-time-factor-superhot.html >>http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.jsp?msgid=1169171234352 >>http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ > > I talked to one of the developers at the Eventide booth. They plan to ship > it end of March or Early April. MSRP is $499 if I remember right. > > This is mainly a delay pedal with a looper built into it. The developer > said for the looper they were aiming for something between the DL-4 and > the Boomerang. Some specs: > > - 12 second stereo looper > - tapped record start/end > - Record into overdub > - loop beginning/ending trim controls > - loop speed control (pitch and length change together with a knob.) > - feedback control. he wasn't too sure of details how this should work and > was asking my advice. This feature is still being developed. > - MIDI control (MIDI in/out jacks are on the side) > - MIDI clock sync (for the delays). It wasn't implemented for the looper > when I talked to them, we will see if it gets added. > - USB port > - jacks for assignable external expression pedal and footswitch. > > > They are still working on the looper section, so he was asking for advice > about features. > > Before you jump on this, be sure to check out the Damage Control > delay/looper pedal also. > > kim > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 13:39:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B071A3BED3; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.4] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V07 #51 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:38:39 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_5834_1e94_69b2" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2007 13:39:00.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[81F13860:01C73D61] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:39:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_5834_1e94_69b2 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I did post the schematic,but it seems to have come through as code.I have it as a jpg,which I'll try to send again. 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h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=YduTjAvLK+jv7GLHEiQagyApbZUUVgqqGbkdFqiEWqaXuYw75T8bLeowvHXp9h8FzCACC445UcvIxsRcZsBCYV7D3CZ/j12trdTBrIdshBCIHKhbFgEG5sKEV9eyAdWUyLN6kK7pMaCBMqzDG91AkNHNThf13ob8AMZmhtVzwNM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6501E938-3E93-4A02-91BE-C20E5193757F@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: SUSStutter vs SUSMultiply Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:59:48 +0100 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Anyone up for explaining the difference between these? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 14:25:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CC2A3BED6; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAIoGs0XUSnIwk2dsb2JhbACNYwEBAgcOBwcc Message-ID: <45B37803.9030504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:26:11 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SUSStutter vs SUSMultiply References: <6501E938-3E93-4A02-91BE-C20E5193757F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6501E938-3E93-4A02-91BE-C20E5193757F@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <26HDuB.A.szE.0f3sFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Anyone up for explaining the difference between these? ok Per, EDP speak Firstly InsertMode=SUS Now, when you use Multiply the Loop is cut to the length that you held the switch down. then also do Loop/Delay (or whatever it's called on Blackfaces, anyway it's the Interface Mode)=StU This changes the way Insert works. Now the EDP will find some audio from the loop to fill the Insert, instead of just inserting the new material that you are playing. So SUSInsert now becomes SUSStutter. This is an "emergent artifact" from the Loop4 development, normally the EDP is counting cycles silently while the new material is inserted, but taking the audio from the position of that count is still possible, and has the (unexpected) result of running repeatedly through a section of audio which is one cycle long, starting from where Insert was pressed. So for a short press ( when InsertMode=SUS) you get little stutters introduced into the loop. Best thing is to set it up on an edp and try it. (I'm pretty sure Mobius doesn't have this, unfortunately) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 14:41:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 736C83BED5; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAI0Ks0XUSnIvh2dsb2JhbACNYwEBCQ4OHA Message-ID: <45B37BA7.2080307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:41:43 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LOOP ON MYSPACE References: <194510.67224.qm@web86105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <194510.67224.qm@web86105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:41:27 +0000 (UTC) hi Matt, mostly the myspace loopers have their favourite other loopers as "best friends", and get comments on their page from other loopers too. http://groups.myspace.com/loopersdelight is a group set up for LDers to connect, that would be a good place to start. andy > Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler and > a few others. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 14:57:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 437553BECD; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=iCK3ba2yJFLa7t1ViuH2iUy/yruhfCzabfBs/LBh3A6NJaKRJO6molMokq8pwXBfJaggO3YT3ml+7H2/DkjQeQWehc8JKCczMtg1iWTRKqCbdFmW7OhqSdEpjhbMvpDhYFeZfBj3seeFRXpdNygj8wx56SqiNgU0X/Zgc4WZK48=; X-YMail-OSG: YwTbRaMVM1kZSCNps9HPfuyU0j0xD5XHQNXyNLI14qKNC8BZtrbpvcdqNYc_rYpRjQ-- Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:57:14 +0000 (GMT) From: MATTHEW STEVENS Subject: Re: LOOP ON MYSPACE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45B37BA7.2080307@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-159370723-1169391434=:62555" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <350793.62555.qm@web86104.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:57:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-159370723-1169391434=:62555 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cheers andy - do you know anyone in London who can fix a broken Line 6 Delay pedal - i've got a gig on wednesday!!!!!!!!!! andy butler wrote: hi Matt, mostly the myspace loopers have their favourite other loopers as "best friends", and get comments on their page from other loopers too. http://groups.myspace.com/loopersdelight is a group set up for LDers to connect, that would be a good place to start. andy > Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler and > a few others. > --0-159370723-1169391434=:62555 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cheers andy - do you know anyone in London who can fix a broken Line 6 Delay pedal - i've got a gig on wednesday!!!!!!!!!!

andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Matt,
mostly the myspace loopers have their favourite other loopers as "best
friends",
and get comments on their page from other loopers too.

http://groups.myspace.com/loopersdelight

is a group set up for LDers to connect, that would be a good place to start.

andy
> Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler and
> a few others.
>


--0-159370723-1169391434=:62555-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 15:07:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 500273BED6; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=KjvVwVNf8wBhBRk/XpvxuRz3566+rMqqMNcKJdux9chb0620+2MZI20MkD7kIzMZglQyBZz7erFaELsVHOfoGQo+om3HzAYlxIxloTsfYsYdODwuIeFdLmd+0LtVQMabxB3we/pjAocq9oFUR/KsC1BuhY9Hysj7PJ6IEPvLJQg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45B37803.9030504@tiscali.co.uk> References: <6501E938-3E93-4A02-91BE-C20E5193757F@gmail.com> <45B37803.9030504@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <24D1AF59-D98D-4F73-9781-5DB10FBEC851@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: SUSStutter vs SUSMultiply Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:07:38 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:07:43 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: >> Anyone up for explaining the difference between these? > ok Per, EDP speak > > Firstly InsertMode=SUS > > Now, when you use Multiply the Loop is cut to the length that you > held the switch down. > > then also do > Loop/Delay (or whatever it's called on Blackfaces, anyway it's the > Interface Mode)=StU > This changes the way Insert works. Now the EDP will find some > audio from the loop to fill the Insert, instead of just inserting > the new material that you are playing. So SUSInsert now becomes > SUSStutter. Oh, so the live input will not be layered on top of the stuttered loop then? Excellent! I didn't know this. That's useful. > This is an "emergent artifact" from the Loop4 development, normally > the EDP is counting cycles silently while the new material is > inserted, but taking the audio from the position of that count is > still possible, and has the (unexpected) result of running > repeatedly through a section of audio which is one cycle long, > starting from where Insert was pressed. > > So for a short press ( when InsertMode=SUS) you get little stutters > introduced into the loop. > > Best thing is to set it up on an edp and try it. > (I'm pretty sure Mobius doesn't have this, unfortunately) Yes, I just noticed that Mobius has this command "SUSStutter" (which is not available as a direct MIDI command with the EDP/Loop4). But it doesn's work the same way in Mobius (actually I can't fine a difference in Mobius between SUSStutter and SUSMultiply...?). I guess, on the EDP you need to change Interface Mode to "Stu"? It would have been great if it had been implemented as a direct MIDI command. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 16:11:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EA1A3BED5; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Violindave@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:11:39 EST Subject: EDP users DC area? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1169395899" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5354 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:11:49 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1169395899 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are there any EDP users in the DC area? [I'm in Arlington VA] I'm looking for someone in the DC area who can get me rolling with the unit, teach me the basics. I learn better by direct instruction than manual. I'm willing to exchange. cheers Dave Kline -------------------------------1169395899 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are there any EDP users in the DC area? [I'm in Arlington VA]
I'm looking for someone in the DC area who can get me rolling with the=20 unit, teach me the basics. I learn better by direct instruction than manual.= I'm=20 willing to exchange.
cheers
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-------------------------------1169395899-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 16:27:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85D353BEDD; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ikvBpylfhag8TZZh+B/1ClxgNpefbcssmSqXFqiiGrS/okgnlrIMPjxshzxMsodiiBnEdcorn+AkDTLTlGRfSlPcVpvxFZEUL0/bTuj1+iyCUrI67TT+VpIV3nijq4q6++iVsMBCjkJeS68dCJv6E35Ii2Q9kciLpmPfdcuSitE= ; Message-ID: <20070121162729.40473.qmail@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RsfFVQwVM1l6.JY03hGrd_QMmrKmHawpEK3t1L16ao4fe_I.PhfXsNmFXFo2xs487EZxa506YMuda8DXovGiPZwrtNj2USp2vEOUTH8_n54rQ97dqqc- Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:27:29 +0000 (GMT) From: MATTHEW STEVENS Subject: New Looper Pedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2069126046-1169396849=:40469" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:27:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-2069126046-1169396849=:40469 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey My DL4 has died! Can anyone recommend a good replacement looper for around the same price. I need to be able to overdub/loop live plus a "loop once feature"- an undo feature would be great and some more looping time. Any ideas? Thanks www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar --0-2069126046-1169396849=:40469 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hey
 
My DL4 has died! Can anyone recommend a good replacement looper for around the same price.  I need to be able to overdub/loop live plus a "loop once feature"-  an undo feature would be great and some more looping time.
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks
 
--0-2069126046-1169396849=:40469-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 17:29:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 249AC3BED0; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ami2ZA9G91GY2sZq1oSEzgFT0QDrNqSQ2Fl6ofCgJWQTaGVUmJo6fvvGi/1jlgNsnUNb6V10jdR31KsIQ2zufm/KnO7U3XQsua1vycbpt7hlP0+kEvGGFoDQVIjTsEUy3rUSRFNZPG4zsnyoFl4wmIjvEV7tcQ+YGnLeOxL3JK8= Message-ID: <6f5c10f00701210929w5d00985ex5bd5400124a25357@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:29:18 -0500 From: "John K." To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Looper Pedal In-Reply-To: <20070121162729.40473.qmail@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070121162729.40473.qmail@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Matthew, I am selling a Boomerang Phrase Sampler Version 2 in mint condition (used one in my home studio) that will loop/overdub and loop once with two separate loops plus it has a much longer loop time than the DL4. I'm asking $350 for it in its original box, warranty card, manual. Where do you live? At that price I'd be willing to cover shipping/insurance as well. Thanks, John Kasiewicz www.myspace.com/raisinhill On 1/21/07, MATTHEW STEVENS wrote: > Hey > > My DL4 has died! Can anyone recommend a good replacement looper for around > the same price. I need to be able to overdub/loop live plus a "loop once > feature"- an undo feature would be great and some more looping time. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > > www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 18:08:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1BE13BED6; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <6501E938-3E93-4A02-91BE-C20E5193757F@gmail.com> References: <6501E938-3E93-4A02-91BE-C20E5193757F@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: SUSStutter vs SUSMultiply Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:04:10 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc25.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:08:46 +0000 (UTC) The Mobius interpretation of Stutter comes from this section of the EDP manual: SingleCycleMultiply works as follows. When you have done a Multiply and have several Cycles in a loop, pressing Insert will insert repetitions of the next Cycle. As the inserts are made you can overdub a longer phrase over the repetitions of the Cycle. The results will be inserted into the loop when you press Insert again. ... This can make very interesting results when working with very short Cycles, and that is why it is called StutterMode. I wasn't exactly sure what that meant, what is implemented is this: When you press Stutter (or SUSStutter), you enter "stutter mode". In stutter mode, when you reach the end of the current cycle, a copy of the current cycle is inserted at that point. This insertion of the cycle copy continues every time you reach the end of the cycle until you finaly end Stutter mode. This "single cycle multiply" is rounded, meaning that you always insert exactly one cycle, and it is quantized to the end of the cycle. The cycle you are inserting is always the cycle you are currently in. If you do this in the last cycle, the effect is very much like ordinary Multiply. The main differences between Stutter and Multiply are: - Stutter can insert cycles in the middle, Multiply only at the end. - Multiply over a previously multiplied loop will "re multiply" and remove cycles that were not playing during the multiply, stutter never removes cycles it only inserts. - Stutter only inserts the current cycle, (re)Multiply will append all of the cycles if you let it run long enough, then it starts over from beginning. I haven't tried this on my EDP, but re-reading the description it looks like the EDP may do the insert at the moment the Insert button is pressed rather than quantizing to the end of the cycle. It is unclear to me whether this insert is rounded or unrounded. The insertion is apparently the "next cycle" not the current cycle, though personally I find it more useful to stutter something I've just heard, not remember what will be in the next cycle. [Per] > Oh, so the live input will not be layered on top of the stuttered loop > then? Excellent! I didn't know this. That's useful. The docs say "As the inserts are made you can overdub a longer phrase over the repetitions of the next cycle". Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 18:16:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1D613BECF; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1169402741.45b3ab756d219@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:05:41 -0800 From: mech@m3ch.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NAMM Report... References: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120212029.047bdc70@annihilist.com> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120212029.047bdc70@annihilist.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 75.34.168.196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Kim Flint : > > I took a look at the FC-300 at NAMM.... > > I talked to one of the developers at the Eventide booth.... > > At NAMM there is another new delay/looper pedal, The Damage Control > Timeline.... Thanks bunches for the recon, Kim. Just a couple of further questions about what you saw: First, any sign of Mike & Leigh from Boomerang Music? Supposedly, the new 'Rang should be out any day now. Second, how were the "technical specialists" at the Electrix booth this year? <*ducking and running*> Thanks again! --m. _ ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 18:27:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56AC53BED6; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120203742.081cad70@loopers-delight.com> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120203742.081cad70@loopers-delight.com> Subject: RE: New MIDI footpedal from Roland FC-300 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:27:18 -0500 Message-ID: <004b01c73d89$c8d8be10$5a8a3a30$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acc9NncoiRfPqnTYSLmBn2Xwrw72hQAUqIpw Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:27:22 +0000 (UTC) On a more hopeful note, check out the controllers from http://www.gordius.be/ . This may be the closest yet to the PMC-10- which I owned at one point, but it acted too strangely. Dave Eichenberger- http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, no copies > > - Switches apparently can be programmed as momentary or latching, which may > be good news for echoplex users as this may possibly work using CC messages > to control the EDP. > > Seems well constructed, but definitely this is not the PMC-10 resurrection. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 18:30:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EA4A3BED2; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <194510.67224.qm@web86105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <194510.67224.qm@web86105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: LOOP ON MYSPACE Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:30:45 -0500 Message-ID: <004c01c73d8a$44086310$cc192930$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01C73D60.5B325B10" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acc9PYNj5VMTi39eQRSvKuHK8AGywQATGemg Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Opg= BR64 Cj60 DWlZ EQVS FW9J FdZE F4BJ Hhli H3sc IIjg Iogk JLkF LAqM LN47 LTW8;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{3D1542A1-DBA6-40FD-B487-795C8BA42C77};YQByAHQAaQBzAHQAcwBAAGgAYQB6AGEAcgBkAGYAYQBjAHQAbwByAC4AYwBvAG0A;Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:30:40 GMT;UgBFADoAIABMAE8ATwBQACAATwBOACAATQBZAFMAUABBAEMARQA= x-cr-puzzleid: {3D1542A1-DBA6-40FD-B487-795C8BA42C77} X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:30:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C73D60.5B325B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey there Matt..I do it all the time, with the DL-4. Check out my silly YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7M2y_THbI Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com Hello Loopers Hello - my name is Matt - I do acoustic loop based music ~(live looping) Can anyone recomend Myspace Groups related to looping? Does anyone do live acoustic looping? Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler and a few others. Best Regards Matt www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C73D60.5B325B10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey there Matt..I do it all the time, with the DL-4. Check = out my silly YouTube video:

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DCT7M2y_THbI

 

 

Dave = Eichenberger

 http://www.hazardfactor.com  &n= bsp;             
 

 

 

 <= /span>

 

Hello Loopers

 

Hello - my name is Matt - I do acoustic loop based = music ~(live looping)

 

Can anyone recomend Myspace Groups related to = looping?

 

Does anyone do live acoustic = looping?

 

Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know = about Andy Butler and a few others.

 

Best Regards

 

Matt

www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar

------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C73D60.5B325B10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 19:15:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A17133BECA; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAGNKs0XUSnInk2dsb2JhbACNYwEBAgcOBwUe Message-ID: <45B3BBC7.8010806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:15:19 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SUSStutter vs SUSMultiply References: <6501E938-3E93-4A02-91BE-C20E5193757F@gmail.com> <45B37803.9030504@tiscali.co.uk> <24D1AF59-D98D-4F73-9781-5DB10FBEC851@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <24D1AF59-D98D-4F73-9781-5DB10FBEC851@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:15:22 +0000 (UTC) > Oh, so the live input will not be layered on top of the stuttered loop > then? Excellent! I didn't know this. That's useful. no, live playing is layered as well. > > I guess, on the EDP you need to change Interface Mode to "Stu"? Yes, it works like that it FLI too. > It would have been great if it had been implemented as a direct MIDI > command. Yes, a strange way to implement Stutter. Worthwhile because Andre loved it, and essentially the hardware resources of the EDP were used up, so any other way would have not been possible. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 19:28:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30F933BED0; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAANBNs0XUSnInk2dsb2JhbACNYwEBAgcOBwUe Message-ID: <45B3BEE2.6070505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:28:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SUSStutter vs SUSMultiply References: <6501E938-3E93-4A02-91BE-C20E5193757F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Jeffrey Larson wrote: > > The Mobius interpretation of Stutter comes from this section > of the EDP manual: > > SingleCycleMultiply works as follows. When you have done a Multiply > > > I haven't tried this on my EDP, that's the way to go :-) > but re-reading the description it looks > like the EDP may do the insert at the moment the Insert button is > pressed rather than quantizing to the end of the cycle. It is unclear > to me whether this insert is rounded or unrounded. On EDP it's essentially an "Insert", so it's rounded to the Cycle, and Quantised depending on "Quantise" parameter. > The insertion is > apparently the "next cycle" not the current cycle, though personally > I find it more useful to stutter something I've just heard, not remember > what will be in the next cycle. Sure, don't copy the EDP, it was only implemented that way due to hardware limitations. Andre LaFosse "Invented" the Sub-Cycle Multiply by using StutterMode with InsertMode=SUS and Quantise=Off As soon as you release Insert, you hear a repetition from the instant you pressed it. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 19:38:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F48A3BECA; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=c0zroNspuzckmjykNDPpjhXr+S9aYiN3DT3RHb0EvU1olzXR2YCT0s94CQS01q1ak8Yli4lKyPxrikpxIdyjezhE8MBqwzvDcYgefdaVyPkzUwzXPvFJDZQq5BOb7TedWoYWBgXFsCeclBiJauCp0Botfp0fTnOSL2wMYJkUf2E=; X-YMail-OSG: _RBLQZ0VM1naQar_HQAy92uwflwp8xlXoLr0sb4fBbJPyWRnmAza.tmCwP2Je2SJYWC2Rw7Vr4bfru6r.zV7LOvDB2fMQddylTbxlnHUmWTYtwV2PSY3p1mSI3uVubuqsH1vSEkEzYSg_rIfUEVMnGPcx_O1qPO1 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:38:37 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Subject: Re: FS: Boomerang Phrase Sampler (Version 2) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6f5c10f00701200917i6b3d3356wcc7a580ff1f48a7d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <190253.7318.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Cool man! I have an original love it, I have not got a chance to check out the new version I heard the original can be modified to new standards. I modified mine to have virtually no lag time in depressing the pedal and the time it physically takes your foot to initiate the loop. Works excellent. Please give me some details if possible about your experience with the unit. Very interested. Thank you, www.myspace/danielalbertini --- "John K." wrote: > For Sale: > MINT > Boomerang Phrase Sampler (Version 2) > Still in original box, comes complete with manual, warranty card, > adapter. Please email me for more details. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 19:50:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E7E53BED2; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <4344EAF8-7DE3-4F2F-9EDA-654EC15A37B8@finleysound.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--24277768 From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: CDBaby artists - important change Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:49:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:50:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--24277768 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed If you've been streaming mp3s from your website by linking to your CDBaby page, you should double check to make sure the link still works. It appears that they changed some of their coding, so the old link doesn't work anymore. The old code/link looked something like this... http://cdbaby.com/mp3lofi/kingnever3-02.m3u The new code/link looks like this... http://67.139.134.253/da551511/mp3lofi/k/i/kingnever3-02.mp3 Hope that helps. Happy streaming... Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com --Apple-Mail-1--24277768 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
If you've been streaming = mp3s from your website by linking to your CDBaby page, you should double = check to make sure the link still works.=A0 It appears that they changed = some of their coding, so the old link doesn't work = anymore.

The = old code/link looked something like this...


The new code/link looks = like this...

http= ://67.139.134.253/da551511/mp3lofi/k/i/kingnever3-02.mp3
Hope that helps.=A0 Happy = streaming...

Matt

---

King Never

http://www.kingnever.com

=

= --Apple-Mail-1--24277768-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 20:33:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9FF83BED5; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <017f01c73d9b$66222f10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" References: <194510.67224.qm@web86105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: LOOP ON MYSPACE (and other online resources) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:33:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=1.0 tests=AWL,INFO_TLD autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Hey Matt, I'm unaware of anything on my space but we have quite a nice LIVE LOOPING tribe at tribe.net that I moderate (with a 123 members) and a CYCLETRONICA tribe there as well, that my good friend Mark Sottilaro moderates (with 81 members). Matthias Grob also moderates the LOOP MUSIC forum at yahoogroups though it has been a bit inactive of late. And I do a lot of acoustic live looping myself concentrating on found sounds (although I am a multiple instrumentalist playing drums/percussion/fretted and fretless bass guitar, keyboards, various wind instruments and extended vocal techniques). My music ranges from more experimental and avant garde things to groove oriented music in an Abstract Electronic-Trip Hoppy-World Music vein. There are examples up at my website: www.looppool.info Welcome and come join our tribes at tribe.net MATT wrote: "Hello - my name is Matt - I do acoustic loop based music ~(live looping) Can anyone recomend Myspace Groups related to looping? Does anyone do live acoustic looping? Who are interesting loopers on Myspace - I know about Andy Butler and a few others. Best Regards" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 20:53:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1C443BEDD; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: Subject: EDP ControlSource setting Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:53:33 -0500 Message-ID: <007301c73d9e$36d19360$a474ba20$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acc9njQZQgkHN7vUQ2e0oBSn9TBHiQ== Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: A5yH A7+p BEFY BeJe BsrS CBCs C+sX DkpF D0Jl EFhy F/w0 G7k3 Kyh3 LSrg LoBS L+xi;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{F9928495-A733-40BA-8333-EFC1984E8DC3};YQByAHQAaQBzAHQAcwBAAGgAYQB6AGEAcgBkAGYAYQBjAHQAbwByAC4AYwBvAG0A;Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:53:29 GMT;RQBEAFAAIABDAG8AbgB0AHIAbwBsAFMAbwB1AHIAYwBlACAAcwBlAHQAdABpAG4AZwA= x-cr-puzzleid: {F9928495-A733-40BA-8333-EFC1984E8DC3} X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Would there be any advantage to selecting ControlSource=Notes over CountrolSource=Controllers? It seems like other than a keyboard, there are very few midi controllers that send NoteOff messages. A few can send alternating CC messages though. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, no copies From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 21 20:57:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB16B3BEDF; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <86375974707beee2a6da4665d92d9534@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: CT-GREAT SPEECHES IS OUT ! Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:57:44 -0800 To: fabio anile X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Fabio, I listened to this project a number of times through the other day and=20= really enjoyed it! Best regards, Ted Killian On Jan 20, 2007, at 11:47 PM, fabio anile wrote: > > Hi people, I' m proud to announce that the CT-GREAT SPEECHES project=20= > is now > online and free to download. > Thanks to all members, for theyr creativity, patience and ispiration. > > Here's is the link: > http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&albumid=3D24 > and - for those of you who are interested - a "Listening guide" to the > project. > As usual, comments are welcome. > > > Fabio > http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > > > > Listening guide to the CT-Great Speech project > > The aim of this project is to compose a music to "furnish" a famous=20 > speech. > A "great speech" is a speech that has a relevant historical, = religious, > political, or social content. > > First time I started to think at this project was when I worked on a=20= > film > about the Apollo 11 moon landing. The interesting part of that work=20 > was to > think to the speech as a part of the music, the leading part. Nothing=20= > new > compared to My life in a bush of ghost (Brian Eno - David Byrne, =20 > 1981), > but it was new for me experimenting the Eno-Byrne creative process. > I started to work on other speeches and when I realized that it would=20= > take > most part of the time i=E2=80=99ve to spend in music, I open it to the > CT-Collective. > > I'm now proud to announce the publishing of the CT-Great Speeches=20 > project, > my first experience as a CT-Collective project coordinator. > This was an amazing experience for many reasons: different musical > approaches and speeches choosen by the members, different ways of=20 > working > on the samples and many contacts with skilled musicians, from all=20 > around > the world. > > It's interesting notate that some members have choosen speeches=20 > regarding > similar events or content: 2nd world war, missions in space and > spirituality are three recourring themes in this CD. > That inspired me to create a playlist accordingly to these three=20 > themes and > here's how it works. > The CD starts with a great dense, obscure and emotional atmosphere,=20 > where > you can hear the famous W. Churchill=E2=80=99s one-line quote, "we'll = fight=20 > 'em on > the beaches" (1). Next songs contain the tone colored declaration of=20= > war > (2) by the italian dictator B. Mussolini, in a crescendo rock track.=20= > It's > interesting notice that both songs end with a sample (birds in the=20 > 1st, a > child crying in th 2nd) that introduce a reality context. > The third song contains a Michael Moore speech, about the U.S.=20 > President G. > Bush feeling like God (3); M. Frank had built a very rithmic and > straordinarly accessible track. > The Meaning of God is the original title of the speech held by M.=20 > Gandhi > that appears, after an ethereal looping textures, in Misterious Power=20= > (4), > the song i composed for this project. > As it was the dark side compared to the Gandhi message, follows the=20 > intense > composition by Mike Fazio, about the The Jim Jones Jonestown Cult=20 > Suicide > Speech (5). > Moon 1969 (6) opens the edge of space missions. Just announced, like=20= > in the > JFK speech, altered by Michael Peters in an onomatopoeic way, as it=20 > seems > that you=E2=80=99re starting to fly ; or followed step by step, with = an ear=20 > to the > President R. Reagan announcing the mission and an ear to a radio=20 > station > that was broadcasting in real time the Challenger Tragedy (7), like in=20= > the > obscure ambient song composed by Milco Montagna. > Spirit and science converge in a unique element in the A. Hofman = speech > choosen by Anders Ostberg for his drone track, about a new natural=20 > wiev of > life (8). > Artificious is the starting point for the (impossible) 17 U.S.=20 > Presidents > conference (9) Norelpref created. As an answer to all that politics > talking, i=E2=80=99ve put Now is the time (10) contains a part of the = famous=20 > I=E2=80=99ve a > dream speech held by M. L. King in Washington in 1963 (10). I compose=20= > it > before starting the CT project, and even if i=E2=80=99ve encouraged = the=20 > members to > take in account this speech, noone used it. So i put it here,=20 > thinking it > could be a good final song. > At the end, i feel it was an interesting experience where all members=20= > work > hard to get the best idea, or musical and technical approach and > inspiration. > > Thanks to you all for your work, collaboration and patience, i=E2=80=99l= l=20 > hope it > will be a second CT-Great Speeches project to follow. > Fabio Anile > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 03:28:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD4CA3BED5; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <04c301c73dd5$6c9e23a0$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Tube vs. DSP Amps, Mid Range Vs. Botique, etc Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:28:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04BE_01C73D9A.BF6DF1E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:28:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04BE_01C73D9A.BF6DF1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I apologize in advance, as this is off topic, but I needed to resolve = this here. Once again, I contradict my past observations and comments = based on new experiences.=20 Point #1: A few weeks ago I had bought the Fender FM65 DSP amp, because = it has really good effect combinations and it was reasonably good at = emulating a variety of tube amps. I played it at a few gigs, was = alright with it (not blown away), but then out of curiosity decided to = buy the well respected (by amp purists, based on my research) and highly = applauded Fender Pro Junior 1X10" all tube amp. This is one of the most = basic, pure tube amps on the market. It is small, light, and simple. I = used it for a jazz gig last night and was almost giddy because of the = tone....unbelievable...warm, smooth, spongy, milky, highlighted those = sweet spots of jazz tone, all that stuff. Of course, the amp has only a = tone and volume knob...nothing else! So I ran my Boss VF1 into it for = reverb and delay....it sounded wonderful, just out of this world. Hence, = I wasn't able to maintain my do-it-all-with-one-amp goal, but the = tradeoff was worth it. This little amp is a amazing. I would recommend = it for any style of music, looping or not. I'm still in awe.=20 Point #2: I slept on it for several week, and I'm buying the Schertle = "David" acoustic guitar amp. Yes, it's a boutique amp and high priced, = but it delivered an amazing sound out of such a small package...plus, I = will run my VF1 into it for effects. Hence, I put my Crate Gunnison up = for sale tonight on eBay. Basically, I've given up on finding a DSP amp that will delivery both a = good tube amp simulation, plus good effects and combinations. Perhaps it = is possible or even highly probable to get one or another in one DSP amp = or another, but I couldn't seem to find both based on my tests and = needs. My ultimate decision is to focus on just a good amp with great = tone, and then worry about the effects later...meaning get them with my = VF1. It is a reasonable tradeoff until sometime in the future when they = start building rack amount effect quality effects into boutique guitar = amps...that will be the day, eh? I still think they can make a DSP amp = that emulates a tube amp to the "T", but I don't think they've done it = yet. Perhaps the R&D is too costly to make the investment worth it...but = I have to believe that someone could design and manufacture a botique = DSP amp that had both great tube emulation and pro quality digital = effects.=20 Kris ------=_NextPart_000_04BE_01C73D9A.BF6DF1E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I apologize in advance, as this = is off topic,=20 but I needed to resolve this here. Once again, I contradict my past = observations=20 and comments based on new experiences.
 
Point #1: A few weeks = ago I had=20 bought the Fender FM65 DSP amp, because it has really good effect = combinations=20 and it was reasonably good at emulating a variety of tube amps.  I = played=20 it at a few gigs, was alright with it (not blown away), but then out of=20 curiosity decided to buy the well respected (by amp purists, based on my = research) and highly applauded Fender Pro Junior 1X10" all tube amp. = This is one=20 of the most basic, pure tube amps on the market. It is small, light, and = simple.=20  I used it for a jazz gig last night and was almost giddy because = of the=20 tone....unbelievable...warm, smooth, spongy, milky, highlighted those = sweet=20 spots of jazz tone, all that stuff. Of course, the amp has only a tone = and=20 volume knob...nothing else! So I ran my Boss VF1 into it for reverb and=20 delay....it sounded wonderful, just out of this world. Hence, I wasn't = able to=20 maintain my do-it-all-with-one-amp goal, but the tradeoff was worth it. = This=20 little amp is a amazing. I would recommend it for any style of music, = looping or=20 not. I'm still in awe.
 
Point #2: I slept on = it for=20 several week, and I'm buying the Schertle "David" acoustic guitar amp. = Yes, it's=20 a boutique amp and high priced, but it delivered an amazing sound out of = such a=20 small package...plus, I will run my VF1 into it for effects. Hence, I = put my=20 Crate Gunnison up for sale tonight on eBay.
 
Basically, I've given up on finding a = DSP amp that=20 will delivery both a good tube amp simulation, plus good effects and=20 combinations. Perhaps it is possible or even highly probable to get one = or=20 another in one DSP amp or another, but I couldn't seem to find both = based on my=20 tests and needs. My ultimate decision is to focus on just a good amp = with great=20 tone, and then worry about the effects later...meaning get them with my=20 VF1.  It is a reasonable tradeoff until sometime in the future when = they=20 start building rack amount effect quality effects into boutique guitar=20 amps...that will be the day, eh?  I still think they can make a DSP = amp=20 that emulates a tube amp to the "T", but I don't think they've done it = yet.=20 Perhaps the R&D is too costly to make the investment worth it...but = I have=20 to believe that someone could design and manufacture a botique DSP amp = that had=20 both great tube emulation and pro quality digital effects.
 
Kris
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_04BE_01C73D9A.BF6DF1E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 04:32:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B02873BED6; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=sXBs/SD/Q85pzVy9qUkLV3rdmdZJjbeezSGFKdZqc9Bdt33V8fBFahImxi1zjo5X; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <33472468.1169440352517.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tube vs. DSP Amps, Mid Range Vs. Boutique, etc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48554f9e4d31ef6ac4f85052f7f73a354530febb85a5f48815350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.49 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:32:33 +0000 (UTC) didnt read ALL the verbiage but i think you are praising the sound of a tub= e amp...compared to anything else. welcome to the club s >I apologize in advance, as this is off topic, but I needed to resolve this= here. Once again, I contradict my past observations and comments based on = new experiences.=20 > >Point #1: A few weeks ago I had bought the Fender FM65 DSP amp, because it= has really good effect combinations and it was reasonably good at emulatin= g a variety of tube amps. I played it at a few gigs, was alright with it (= not blown away), but then out of curiosity decided to buy the well respecte= d (by amp purists, based on my research) and highly applauded Fender Pro Ju= nior 1X10" all tube amp. This is one of the most basic, pure tube amps on t= he market. It is small, light, and simple. I used it for a jazz gig last n= ight and was almost giddy because of the tone....unbelievable...warm, smoot= h, spongy, milky, highlighted those sweet spots of jazz tone, all that stuf= f. Of course, the amp has only a tone and volume knob...nothing else! So I = ran my Boss VF1 into it for reverb and delay....it sounded wonderful, just = out of this world. Hence, I wasn't able to maintain my do-it-all-with-one-a= mp goal, but the tradeoff was worth it. This little amp is a amazing. I wou= ld recommend it for any style of music, looping or not. I'm still in awe.= =20 > >Point #2: I slept on it for several week, and I'm buying the Schertle "Dav= id" acoustic guitar amp. Yes, it's a boutique amp and high priced, but it d= elivered an amazing sound out of such a small package...plus, I will run my= VF1 into it for effects. Hence, I put my Crate Gunnison up for sale tonigh= t on eBay. > >Basically, I've given up on finding a DSP amp that will delivery both a go= od tube amp simulation, plus good effects and combinations. Perhaps it is p= ossible or even highly probable to get one or another in one DSP amp or ano= ther, but I couldn't seem to find both based on my tests and needs. My ulti= mate decision is to focus on just a good amp with great tone, and then worr= y about the effects later...meaning get them with my VF1. It is a reasonab= le tradeoff until sometime in the future when they start building rack amou= nt effect quality effects into boutique guitar amps...that will be the day,= eh? I still think they can make a DSP amp that emulates a tube amp to the= "T", but I don't think they've done it yet. Perhaps the R&D is too costly = to make the investment worth it...but I have to believe that someone could = design and manufacture a botique DSP amp that had both great tube emulation= and pro quality digital effects.=20 > >Kris > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 04:56:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2992C3BED5; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45B44416.7030308@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:56:54 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tube vs. DSP Amps, Mid Range Vs. Botique, etc References: <04c301c73dd5$6c9e23a0$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <04c301c73dd5$6c9e23a0$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Super cool...I know Nels Cline has recorded a bunch with one of these. I love less knobs. In the unbelievably cheap department, I've heard a lot of good things about the Epiphone Junior, which is a 5-watt tube amp with only a volume control. It comes in a combo with 8" speaker for a bit more, but I dig the head cuz it's LESS THAN A HUNDRED BUCKS. http://www.zzounds.com/item--EPIEPAEMJRH Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > I apologize in advance, as this is off topic, but I needed to resolve > this here. Once again, I contradict my past observations and > comments based on new experiences. > > *Point #1:* A few weeks ago I had bought the Fender FM65 DSP amp, > because it has really good effect combinations and it was reasonably > good at emulating a variety of tube amps. I played it at a few gigs, > was alright with it (not blown away), but then out of curiosity > decided to buy the well respected (by amp purists, based on my > research) and highly applauded Fender Pro Junior 1X10" all tube amp. > This is one of the most basic, pure tube amps on the market. It is > small, light, and simple. I used it for a jazz gig last night and was > almost giddy because of the tone....unbelievable...warm, smooth, > spongy, milky, highlighted those sweet spots of jazz tone, all that > stuff. Of course, the amp has only a tone and volume knob...nothing > else! So I ran my Boss VF1 into it for reverb and delay....it sounded > wonderful, just out of this world. Hence, I wasn't able to maintain my > do-it-all-with-one-amp goal, but the tradeoff was worth it. This > little amp is a amazing. I would recommend it for any style of music, > looping or not. I'm still in awe. > > *Point #2*: I slept on it for several week, and I'm buying the > Schertle "David" acoustic guitar amp. Yes, it's a boutique amp and > high priced, but it delivered an amazing sound out of such a small > package...plus, I will run my VF1 into it for effects. Hence, I put my > Crate Gunnison up for sale tonight on eBay. > > Basically, I've given up on finding a DSP amp that will delivery both > a good tube amp simulation, plus good effects and combinations. > Perhaps it is possible or even highly probable to get one or another > in one DSP amp or another, but I couldn't seem to find both based on > my tests and needs. My ultimate decision is to focus on just a good > amp with great tone, and then worry about the effects later...meaning > get them with my VF1. It is a reasonable tradeoff until sometime in > the future when they start building rack amount effect quality effects > into boutique guitar amps...that will be the day, eh? I still think > they can make a DSP amp that emulates a tube amp to the "T", but I > don't think they've done it yet. Perhaps the R&D is too costly to make > the investment worth it...but I have to believe that someone could > design and manufacture a botique DSP amp that had both great tube > emulation and pro quality digital effects. > > Kris > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 05:45:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 593BC3BECF; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1169444095.45b44cff6bb9b@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:34:55 -0800 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tube vs. DSP Amps, Mid Range Vs. Botique, etc References: <04c301c73dd5$6c9e23a0$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45B44416.7030308@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <45B44416.7030308@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 75.34.168.196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Daryl Shawn : > > In the unbelievably cheap department, I've heard a lot of good > things about the Epiphone Junior, which is a 5-watt tube amp > with only a volume control. It comes in a combo with 8" speaker > for a bit more, but I dig the head cuz it's LESS THAN A HUNDRED > BUCKS. > http://www.zzounds.com/item--EPIEPAEMJRH I've heard good things about the Epi as well, and keep meaning to grab one if only to have a little recording amp around should I need one. It seems the little "boutique 5 watt" thing is starting to catch on too. Fender just made a product announcement for this: http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=2330100000 The Champion 600 is a "5-watt tube amp with a 6” speaker and... a higher-gain preamp circuit". There's also a demo movie from NAMM at: http://www.gearwire.com/media/fender-champ-600-wnamm.mov Looks like it might be a little crunchier than the Epiphone, if that's your thing. Little more pricy, though, 'cause Sweetwater's got pre-orders for $199. --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 08:02:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8FD83BECD; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=V0vHlvCqCo2Nf+QUy79jyZUDKbQ0RPBSUEKloH3FXeb8/NAroIMWoGtybsTN7hBJgwzKEcBGH5QLuAc3h+dcCOzFgE88hkKe66BUGRHMoFVzN4KhmkPJvxjIsv8saAESOpW335f8X+64jUtILalbIR/qkyMpfvgAHppg1kD9Muk= ; X-YMail-OSG: KeqZJ34VM1kKY_JdqYg7VQIesPuf6PK1TQI6AKJr_9by1vaUgIIqD2lgA6KznFhuJ.r.FvdpQk3r6s_SUH2oFTI3XjtH8wnbhUYui6g1jLqmr9wk.jUlDopKdGae_wGcetII4EviwFM16V42AZky1bmwOAsPPwM- Message-ID: <011701c73dfb$9b5b8360$6602a8c0@Ruelle2> From: "Ben" To: References: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120212029.047bdc70@annihilist.com> <1169402741.45b3ab756d219@webmail.m3ch.net> Subject: Re: NAMM Report... Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:02:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Not a great Namm for looper it seems. Here are some items that may sound cool for the loopers community however: Roland FC-300 MIDI Foot Controller: a mobius controller Korg mini-KP KAOSS PAD Dynamic Effect Processor: a "fit inside your axe" Kaoss Roland VG-99 V-Guitar System: the next gen. and waldorf is back but that's OT ;-) Ben. ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 08:08:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F6AC3BED2; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45B47F53.1080104@imt.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:09:39 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tube vs. DSP Amps, Mid Range Vs. Botique, etc References: <04c301c73dd5$6c9e23a0$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45B44416.7030308@mhorse.com> <1169444095.45b44cff6bb9b@webmail.m3ch.net> In-Reply-To: <1169444095.45b44cff6bb9b@webmail.m3ch.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Oh wow they're reissuing that old thing. IT's a great amp to mic. I fixed one for a local guitars and we mic'd it and played for a while with our two amps and that little thing rips :-) -Bob Mech wrote: >Quoting Daryl Shawn : > > >>In the unbelievably cheap department, I've heard a lot of good >>things about the Epiphone Junior, which is a 5-watt tube amp >>with only a volume control. It comes in a combo with 8" speaker >>for a bit more, but I dig the head cuz it's LESS THAN A HUNDRED >>BUCKS. >>http://www.zzounds.com/item--EPIEPAEMJRH >> >> > >I've heard good things about the Epi as well, and keep meaning to grab one if >only to have a little recording amp around should I need one. It seems the >little "boutique 5 watt" thing is starting to catch on too. Fender just made a >product announcement for this: > > http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=2330100000 > >The Champion 600 is a "5-watt tube amp with a 6” speaker and... a >higher-gain preamp circuit". > >There's also a demo movie from NAMM at: > > http://www.gearwire.com/media/fender-champ-600-wnamm.mov > >Looks like it might be a little crunchier than the Epiphone, if that's your >thing. Little more pricy, though, 'cause Sweetwater's got pre-orders for $199. > > --m. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 08:27:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39AFA3BED9; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070122001916.04b165f0@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:28:09 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP ControlSource setting In-Reply-To: <007301c73d9e$36d19360$a474ba20$@com> References: <007301c73d9e$36d19360$a474ba20$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <7vQ5BB.A.dqE.zVHtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:27:32 +0000 (UTC) At 12:53 PM 1/21/2007, hazard factor wrote: >Would there be any advantage to selecting ControlSource=Notes over >CountrolSource=Controllers? It seems like other than a keyboard, there are >very few midi controllers that send NoteOff messages. A few can send >alternating CC messages though. From the Echoplex perspective it is exactly the same. If you are using continuous controllers, you need the midi device configured as a momentary switch. It should send the appropriate CC# with a non-zero value (like 64) when the switch is pressed, and value=0 when the switch is released. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 08:48:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC69A3BEDD; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20070122002922.04c030e0@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:49:28 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: NAMM Report... In-Reply-To: <1169402741.45b3ab756d219@webmail.m3ch.net> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20070120212029.047bdc70@annihilist.com> <1169402741.45b3ab756d219@webmail.m3ch.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:48:52 +0000 (UTC) At 10:05 AM 1/21/2007, mech@m3ch.net wrote: >Thanks bunches for the recon, Kim. Just a couple of further questions about >what you saw: > >First, any sign of Mike & Leigh from Boomerang Music? Supposedly, the new >'Rang >should be out any day now. no sign of them. >Second, how were the "technical specialists" at the Electrix booth this year? ><*ducking and running*> no sign of them either. Also, the Body Glove booth that claimed Electrix as a brand last year did not list it this time. They also did not have "booth attendants" of last year's quality, at least none that caught the eye. Overall, I would say this was the most boring NAMM show I've ever been to. (this was #14 for me...) I did think the WAG was really cool: http://www.xpresense.com It can be used as either a continuous controller, a momentary switch, or a latching switch. So you can control any sort of effect with small finger motions while playing and instrument. One thought I had for loopers, you can use it to start and stop record or overdub! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 09:21:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57D7F3BED8; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Dddpm31Dmf6iA8JEzta1E4uuWXRsIabTv7NEwP/L0RejC1HVMoGPwMjGBN3VNpNUwXoOTaeOYGDSPfEvaLFPa02NbSpCiehfZtv7PJDSLdboUCKMHA85Ie/9f+GJO6LanH9uieDWVQtfkKcltOlfk30humBwlo4ADRyTTDuiwL0= In-Reply-To: <04c301c73dd5$6c9e23a0$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <04c301c73dd5$6c9e23a0$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0768E5D3-C6B7-4C72-9DCF-ABAE992C551A@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: OT: Tube vs. DSP Amps, Mid Range Vs. Botique, etc Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:21:09 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:21:14 +0000 (UTC) On 22 jan 2007, at 04.28, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Basically, I've given up on finding a DSP amp that will delivery > both a good tube amp simulation, plus good effects and > combinations. Perhaps it is possible or even highly probable to get > one or another in one DSP amp or another, but I couldn't seem to > find both based on my tests and needs. My ultimate decision is to > focus on just a good amp with great tone, and then worry about the > effects later...meaning get them with my VF1. It is a reasonable > tradeoff until sometime in the future when they start building rack > amount effect quality effects into boutique guitar amps...that will > be the day, eh? I still think they can make a DSP amp that > emulates a tube amp to the "T", but I don't think they've done it > yet. Perhaps the R&D is too costly to make the investment worth > it...but I have to believe that someone could design and > manufacture a botique DSP amp that had both great tube emulation > and pro quality digital effects. What you can do is to stick a mic to that blessed fender and tap the mic signal into your effects. Except for eventual distortion or wha pedals of course, that go as usual between guitar and amp. Then do a sound check to set the proper balance between the fender amp mono feed and your effects stereo feed; public as well as backline addressing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 13:44:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A7963BEDD; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <030a01c73e2b$5bd59bb0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: Subject: To all the xperimentalist musicians: Eno-Wright event in San Francisco Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:43:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0307_01C73E33.BD6A4120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2007 13:43:56.0589 (UTC) FILETIME=[5CDD95D0:01C73E2B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:44:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0307_01C73E33.BD6A4120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think there are a lot of people may be interested in this Host: The Long Now Foundation Location: San Francisco, CA Date: Jun 26 2006 Program Description: Playing with Time In a dazzling duet Will Wright and Brian Eno give an intense clinic on = the joys and techniques of "generative" creation. 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= ------=_NextPart_000_0307_01C73E33.BD6A4120-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 14:13:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F6BA3BED8; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:11:47 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #512 for January 18, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45B4C623.4060006@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: <6qUBcB.A.ZYH.vZMtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:13:03 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070118.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and webcasting on the internet. Show #512 January 18, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight was disc one of "Cyborg" on Revisited Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Romance 76" by Peter Baumann on Virgin Records and released in 1976. Klaus Schulze: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#jan PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Peter Baumann Romance Romance 76 (Virgin) Ben Neill Propeller Triptycal (Antilles) Frank Van Bogaert Aquatopia Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert High Nomads (Groove) VA [Kees Aerts] Branch Hopping Analogy Vol. 2 (Groove) VA [Zen Paradox] Creation Garden Analogy Vol. 2 (Groove) Mark Jenkins Exeter's Challenge This Island Earth (Ricochet and Building the Dream/AMP) Interocitor Klaus Schulze Synphara Cyborg disc 1 (Revisited) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Klaus Schulze Synphara (continued) Cyborg disc 1 (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Conphara Cyborg disc 1 (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Chromengel Cyborg disc 1 (Revisited) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disc two of "Cyborg" on Revisited Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Caution" by Pure Gamma on Defective Records and released in 1994. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 14:49:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96DC13BEE7; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <054d01c73e34$8b75c080$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <04c301c73dd5$6c9e23a0$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <0768E5D3-C6B7-4C72-9DCF-ABAE992C551A@gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Tube vs. DSP Amps, Mid Range Vs. Botique, etc Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:49:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <2BXWGD.A.St.H8MtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:49:43 +0000 (UTC) That would be interesting. Or I could just do what a lot of major guitars players would do at large arenas...you see a wall of Marshalls behind them, but if you trace their guitar cable, it goes behind the stage in a room with an old 10" Music Man tube amp or something like that. So, basically, I would just use mic the amp at a distance, run the mic input to my laptop, and then everything else is business as usual at that point. But these days I am playing more mandolin than guitar with my laptop, so I don't really need to run this setup. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:21 AM Subject: Re: OT: Tube vs. DSP Amps, Mid Range Vs. Botique, etc > On 22 jan 2007, at 04.28, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Basically, I've given up on finding a DSP amp that will delivery both a >> good tube amp simulation, plus good effects and combinations. Perhaps it >> is possible or even highly probable to get one or another in one DSP amp >> or another, but I couldn't seem to find both based on my tests and >> needs. My ultimate decision is to focus on just a good amp with great >> tone, and then worry about the effects later...meaning get them with my >> VF1. It is a reasonable tradeoff until sometime in the future when they >> start building rack amount effect quality effects into boutique guitar >> amps...that will be the day, eh? I still think they can make a DSP amp >> that emulates a tube amp to the "T", but I don't think they've done it >> yet. Perhaps the R&D is too costly to make the investment worth it...but >> I have to believe that someone could design and manufacture a botique >> DSP amp that had both great tube emulation and pro quality digital >> effects. > > > What you can do is to stick a mic to that blessed fender and tap the mic > signal into your effects. Except for eventual distortion or wha pedals of > course, that go as usual between guitar and amp. Then do a sound check to > set the proper balance between the fender amp mono feed and your effects > stereo feed; public as well as backline addressing. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 14:57:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D8CD3BEFB; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kllSga83gyR/g2SsNcMU9iJlXEIpZOFR2zKjcIaUjwTJ1EJVUz3ee48FKu7gl4KzNjbnCGpVlK41HqVgUDd4BdPUjhqyPzLuM3L1bAhbEJ4aFHwa5t2nZZKpnpZUV2h8Kt3x34i9iIAgtD3Fi3mkIiKhJwpffceHY7+VmH/4oR0= Message-ID: <6f5c10f00701220657o69dafa09j3b81833ac9c70568@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:57:41 -0500 From: "John K." To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FS: Boomerang Phrase Sampler (Version 2) In-Reply-To: <190253.7318.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6f5c10f00701200917i6b3d3356wcc7a580ff1f48a7d@mail.gmail.com> <190253.7318.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Dan, I don't have any experience with the original, but this newest version works flawlessly. It's really an incredible pedal - perfect for live looping, lots of features to experiment with. I love the automatic play-in-reverse mode.. John Scofield uses that a lot, where he'll play a line that will be echoed back in reverse immediately afterward. And the long record time is great for looping in extended chord progressions. And I can't say enough about the roller volume control. How many times have I had to bend down to adjust the volume of my loop on the DL4 in the middle of the song! Anyway, would love to sell the Boomerang to someone who would really enjoy it and take advantage of all of its incredible features. John raisinhill @ gmail . com (remove the spaces) On 1/21/07, Dan wrote: > Cool man! I have an original love it, I have not got a chance to check out the new version I > heard the original can be modified to new standards. I modified mine to have virtually no lag > time in depressing the pedal and the time it physically takes your foot to initiate the loop. > Works excellent. Please give me some details if possible about your experience with the unit. > Very interested. Thank you, www.myspace/danielalbertini > --- "John K." wrote: > > > For Sale: > > MINT > > Boomerang Phrase Sampler (Version 2) > > Still in original box, comes complete with manual, warranty card, > > adapter. Please email me for more details. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 15:20:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AB263BEF1; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45B4D622.4090802@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:20:02 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: To all the xperimentalist musicians: Eno-Wright event in San Francisco References: <030a01c73e2b$5bd59bb0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> In-Reply-To: <030a01c73e2b$5bd59bb0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:20:08 +0000 (UTC) One of the amazing talks I've ever seen was Eno discussing the Long Now foundation, I think it was in 2003. At that time he was introducing his "Bell Studies" album, which concerned the clock of the Long Now. http://www.longnow.org/ Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > I think there are a lot of people may be interested in this > > Host: The Long Now Foundation > Location: San Francisco, CA > Date: Jun 26 2006 > > Program Description: Playing with Time > > In a dazzling duet Will Wright and Brian Eno give an intense clinic on > the joys and techniques of "generative" creation. > > Back in the 1970s both speakers got hooked by cellular automata such > as Conway's "Game of Life," where just a few simple rules could > unleash profoundly unpredictable and infinitely varied dynamic > patterns. Cellular automata were the secret ingredient of Wright's > genre-busting computer game "SimCity" in 1989. Eno was additionally > inspired by Steve Reich's "It's Gonna Rain," in which two identical > 1.8 second tape loops beat against each other out of phase for a > riveting 20 minutes. That idea led to Eno's "Music for Airports" > (1978), and the genre he named "ambient music" was born. > > The Long Now Foundation was established in 01996* to develop the Clock > and Library projects, as well as to become the seed of a very long > term cultural institution. The Long Now Foundation hopes to provide > counterpoint to today's "faster/cheaper" mind set and promote > "slower/better" thinking. We hope to creatively foster responsibility > in the framework of the next 10,000 years - The Long Now Foundaton > > fabio > http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 15:21:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E8893BEFE; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Rz0wLLyW4eu1rHRWj847oc9H1OrqslaqegLFX7XaoyArVHFQY6yseVPBsjhYQ2T4QBXI/VhXDe+BrdZLul65PY4QdhZCOon2ozF53DkvdH4vyivzjjRGOH298yUppeyelJ5O7UqtMqxpJSQpApRdhoLR8X0LwrXyMDbpIR2JW6k= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:21:22 -0500 From: "Tony Moore" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: stereo looper with midi? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_140780_16012638.1169479282108" Resent-Message-ID: <9ecbK.A.iKC.zZNtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:21:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_140780_16012638.1169479282108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm looking to get back into looping a little more deeply and would ideally like a stereo looper that can midi synch (to my laptop with ableton live). I think my available candidates are: 1) Looperlative - icredible feature set but I just can't afford it 2) Boss RC50 3) ElectroHarmonix 2880 - I've had good luck with many of their products and the bass micro synth is a favorite, so I'm leaning towards this with the foot controller. Did I miss anything? Any opinions or thoughts? Any issues or bad experiences with these? Thanks, Tony ------=_Part_140780_16012638.1169479282108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm looking to get back into looping a little more deeply and would ideally like a stereo looper that can midi synch (to my laptop with ableton live). I think my available candidates are:
 
1) Looperlative - icredible feature set but I just can't afford it
 
2) Boss RC50
 
3) ElectroHarmonix 2880 - I've had good luck with many of their products and the bass micro synth is a favorite, so I'm leaning towards this with the foot controller. 
 
Did I miss anything? Any opinions or thoughts? Any issues or bad experiences with these?
 
Thanks,
 
Tony
------=_Part_140780_16012638.1169479282108-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 16:26:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5883E3BEE1; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=g5gVr1Z/oZccI74uG4BIM7A6KlE/0r3JCeFr85NrInrIdrJ/pO/4Kc55/RlZZCNHApESryMimQT9/e/at4OesCNqBqYMS+/55p4z0PAezUDxsXTGbrxahLRIWZTwK1zBAUILFkNX8uQeGNLlHIhIrZkU3Z5UQKUa9kcvud9ORQ8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:26:38 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:26:44 +0000 (UTC) On 22 jan 2007, at 16.21, Tony Moore wrote: > I'm looking to get back into looping a little more deeply and would > ideally like a stereo looper that can midi synch (to my laptop with > ableton live). I think my available candidates are: > > 1) Looperlative - icredible feature set but I just can't afford it > > 2) Boss RC50 > > 3) ElectroHarmonix 2880 - I've had good luck with many of their > products and the bass micro synth is a favorite, so I'm leaning > towards this with the foot controller. > > Did I miss anything? If I was to get a hardware based solution I would also look into two second hand EDP's. For my personal style that would give me the most musical and creative bang for the buck. But this is a difficult choice because the Looperlative is constantly being upgraded software wise while the EDP's functionality is freezed. You never know when the Looperlative may "catch up". And for some musician's application the Looperlative is already today the most accurate looper, it all depends on what you want to do. If I would not have to go with a hardware based solution I would use the software looper Mobius (partly EDP-like). As a VST plug-in if the Ableton Live latpop runs Windows or on a second Window laptop if the Ableton box runs OS X. Leaving out the the hypothetical conditions of this thread, Mobius is my chosen looping tool IRL, at least for doing live concerts. On some rare occasions I use an EDP for some special effect looping in the studio (odd stuttering stuff that Mobius can't do). On studio recordings I also perform live looping with generic tape delay simulation plug-ins like the Lexicon PSP42, Expert Sleepers Augustus Loop and the very good tape sim "Tape Delay" that comes as a part of Logic. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 16:33:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B4043BEE8; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-50348201 Message-Id: <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> From: monk Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:33:12 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-50348201 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 22, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > If I was to get a hardware based solution I would also look into > two second hand EDP's. For my personal style that would give me the > most musical and creative bang for the buck. But this is a > difficult choice because the Looperlative is constantly being > upgraded software wise while the EDP's functionality is freezed. > You never know when the Looperlative may "catch up". And for some > musician's application the Looperlative is already today the most > accurate looper, it all depends on what you want to do. i'm curious as to what functions the looperlative lacks that the edp has that makes it better for you. thanks monk@fuse.net --Apple-Mail-6-50348201 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Jan 22, 2007, = at 11:26 AM, Per Boysen wrote:


If I was to get a hardware based solution I would also look = into two second hand EDP's. For my personal style that would give me the = most musical and creative bang for the buck. But this is a difficult = choice because the Looperlative is constantly being upgraded software = wise while the EDP's functionality is freezed. You never know when the = Looperlative may "catch up". And for some musician's application the = Looperlative is already today the most accurate looper, it all depends = on what you want to do.




i'm curious as to what = functions the looperlative lacks that the edp has that makes it better = for you.

thanks




= --Apple-Mail-6-50348201-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 16:59:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D995C3BEDD; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=CMbQucR/Nam68gwFshTy2647Y+yP2hx21NQSEVMi7mbRy73K5malxsf3/7tiTKpffMsY60fQI2erQ8v/LApXu0wUIOKwAE45/m6QwYnwjgYfpkh97smtZLTKT/tLFMyWWZWAmttR8Hite4MT/VFi1LI1lCwsVI4L1y6ll1Lqhec= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:59:13 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:59:18 +0000 (UTC) On 22 jan 2007, at 17.33, monk wrote: > i'm curious as to what functions the looperlative lacks that the > edp has that makes it better for you. Lot's on that in this list's archives ;-) Every looping device is a unique instrument. The fact that I prefer the EDP way of looping has nothing to do with the Looperlative. I think you should judge a machine from what you want to use it for, rather than from what it might "have" or "lack". Any device that lets you do your thing it's simply a good instrument for you. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 17:11:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D1293BEEA; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: monk Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:11:41 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:11:46 +0000 (UTC) i already have an edp and a repeater, i'm curious as to what features YOU wish the looperlative had that the edp already has. On Jan 22, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 22 jan 2007, at 17.33, monk wrote: > >> i'm curious as to what functions the looperlative lacks that the >> edp has that makes it better for you. > > Lot's on that in this list's archives ;-) Every looping device is a > unique instrument. The fact that I prefer the EDP way of looping > has nothing to do with the Looperlative. I think you should judge a > machine from what you want to use it for, rather than from what it > might "have" or "lack". Any device that lets you do your thing it's > simply a good instrument for you. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 17:19:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 004553BEF9; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> In-Reply-To: <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> Subject: RE: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:19:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c73e49$7fea8880$7fbf9980$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acc+SGXPAhWchZ/BTfmUORQCl92h6wAADE8w Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:19:42 +0000 (UTC) > > i already have an edp and a repeater, i'm curious as to what features > YOU wish the looperlative had that the edp already has. > > The same price? Can I get a HELL YEAH? Anyone? Anyone? I'm kinda in the same boat- I have 1 EDP, and I can buy another and go stereo. Or, in order to get the Looperlative, I would have to sell my EDP, save probably another $800 or so, and take the chance I could get around on a Looperlative the with the same confidence. Yikes. I've had this EDP since 'back in the day'...it was completely rebuilt by Shane. It's a box full of pure love. Love, I say! Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, no copies From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 17:45:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 970B23BEDC; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=h6LN5rcl1fhcLHVQrYmLB23oukhxAgx3eLlQ3YvXlbdHTepBVlkExSfm+/UcMSRntnDnaoHcOrJ2FUPnFzz6lKR6YsLcMJV+ZGnmd4ruP1yRDvvVd5n27LN3zy00FZPD5KU0yYJNrlducFOQP0+qux49GfhA/TP6D6W8ftZGw3A= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:45:41 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? In-Reply-To: <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_225608_27687094.1169487941933" References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:45:47 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_225608_27687094.1169487941933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The EDP has all those neat features for copying one loop to another and switching between them so you can build pieces with distinct parts. As I recall, when the Looperlative was introduced, it favored the "build a groove and mute/unmute tracks" looping model. TravisH On 1/22/07, monk wrote: > > i already have an edp and a repeater, i'm curious as to what features > YOU wish the looperlative had that the edp already has. > > > ------=_Part_225608_27687094.1169487941933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The EDP has all those neat features for copying one loop to another and switching between them so you can build pieces with distinct parts.  As I recall, when the Looperlative was introduced, it favored the "build a groove and mute/unmute tracks" looping model. 

TravisH

On 1/22/07, monk <monk@fuse.net> wrote:
i already have an edp and a repeater, i'm curious as to what features
YOU wish the looperlative had that the edp already has.



------=_Part_225608_27687094.1169487941933-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 17:46:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10DFF3BF0A; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=JDzEVTJmrKn2UX1chb+Nr8EffTqsT1eXAypDNcAZq+rrmR/Ebo8g9HzAOBTFA62oUPCKc0tOIEdHgq0v2GDfo16Y1PT/CdxS6AAJj1Efd8S4RBoWVBXLOH7Op163imB9osIxwAmbN9mfiZW854OGjDUzIuWL/ux+nzbxACyv+Zo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2C3848F9-E16D-4E95-B3B6-0838B02D20FF@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:46:00 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <0htbfB.A.nS.chPtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:46:04 +0000 (UTC) On 22 jan 2007, at 18.11, monk wrote: > i already have an edp and a repeater, i'm curious as to what > features YOU wish the looperlative had that the edp already has. I too have an EDP and I used to have a Repeater, a great combo! What I appreciate most with the EDP is that it is very quick when it comes to arranging on-the-fly, typically cutting down/multiplying loop length or simply jumping between multiple loops on the same "channel" (in case of using one EDP "channel" simply equals this EDP). I like the option of almost simultaneously creating two or more loops that relate to different keys/chords, by jumping between those loops. It's a wonderful challenge to look for melody line that makes sense as melody lines in their own right, while also working fine as the source material for creating different parts in a "song structure". I never get bored with that kind of "lateral" way of thinking about musical improvisation. I guess you could do some similar stuff with a LP1, but then you would have to set it up for muting and un-muting parallel tracks to host loops of different keys and chords, and I find that less inspiring. And what about when all eight tracks are used up? ;-)) I also like the SUSSubstitute option of the EDP, when you jump between different programs that only differ by the 8ths Per Cycle settings. And of course also the unrounded inserts etc. Since I like the EDP looping style so much I chose to put my money into a laptop that can run Mobius, which is almost like an EDP and in some other areas a lot more. I kind of use Mobius like you would use a pair of synced EDP's for stereo, typically working mostly with only one stereo track of multiple loops. Sometimes I may create a loop on a parallel track to be able to do morphing between these two loops, but I really tend to stick with only one track. I restrict the available number of loops to five, which I think is enough. But I change those loops all the time, by feedback overdubbing or by aggressive cutting and splicing. But each loop on that track has it's defined "chord", "scale" or "key" that I use as "mental tools" for improvising arrangements. I've read the Looperlative manual and I just don't get the same inspiration as I get from reading the EDP or the Mobius manual: I mean that Sense Of Wonder when you realize that "holy shit - I need to try out THIS or THAT to see where it leads musically and sound-wise". The LP1 is very neat as a box. If a future OS upgrade should give it the EDP born functions, mentioned above, I would be very tempted to start saving up ;-) I rarely watch the screen when using Mobius anyway, I just use it for the looping functionality - so frankly, a dedicated box would be just great. (sorry for the long post... this much text volume was what I tried to avoid by my first short reply that hinted at the archives. But it's difficult to cut down on chatting about these highly interesting topics) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 17:55:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 845F23BF06; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=bDMwwvd8PCW/Bt3JXiYnebaDESqVGTmDI5/kApMrDTmq2Sdw2uCXEQ7dE0rHY5VSMfHU0ehSevKIeYZ1AVB98rB8iGFNfPwpk0IVf4JM9YC4FQF1+NlIbY6oErmN3D7kAp5FIjVZ+yguGb7bFtF4UtdLxp4ac66YWEKM4TBv86I= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:54:58 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Memory Chips MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, A few months ago I had a brief email exchange with someone who wanted some older PC memory for their looper. I was cleaning the basement this weekend and found some 1 meg chips (along with some things that belong in the computer museum. PC/XT with a whopping 512k and 2 disk drives. wow) I can't find the old email, so would whoever that was please email me and let me know what kind they needed. These were chips taken out of an older 486 PC, so I think they might be the correct ones. -- -==-=-=- Tony http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 17:56:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEF763BF1A; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:56:52 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120a1ea8427fb4b5641aa515a085ea499d892764449e275203c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:56:55 +0000 (UTC) I've used the Boss and the EH. I love the 2880. It's weirder than the Boss, as you would expect. The MIDI synch is good, too. I've been testing some new software for EH, so stay tuned... >I'm looking to get back into looping a little more deeply and would >ideally like a stereo looper that can midi synch (to my laptop with >ableton live). I think my available candidates are: > >1) Looperlative - icredible feature set but I just can't afford it > >2) Boss RC50 > >3) ElectroHarmonix 2880 - I've had good luck with many of their >products and the bass micro synth is a favorite, so I'm leaning >towards this with the foot controller. > >Did I miss anything? Any opinions or thoughts? Any issues or bad >experiences with these? > >Thanks, > >Tony -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 17:58:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBE713BF1F; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:57:37 -0500 From: Leon Droby Subject: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? To: Loopers-Delight Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:58:00 +0000 (UTC) I'm considering either the RC50 or the EH 2880 due to the fact I can record multiple tracks. What I can't figure out is what happens if I record two tracks that have different lengths. So, hopefully, someone with experience with either or both of these loopers can help me out. Let's say I record the first track and it's two minutes long. Now the first track loops around and I begin the second track which is only one minute long. When they play again, will I hear the second track for one minute and one minute of silence? Or will the second track play twice (which would be equal to the first track)? Also on either unit, does the first track establish the length of the loop? After the first track, can subsequent tracks have a longer duration or does it have to fit within the length of the first track? Thanks for any help, LeonD From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 17:58:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7E683BF28; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Bill Edmondson" To: Subject: RE: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:58:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 thread-index: Acc+TrUYIuiyxZ62SV6+QKoM0DJQmAAADIhg Message-Id: <20070122175816.309893BF1B@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:58:19 +0000 (UTC) New software for the 2880 or something else altogether? > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:57 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? > > I've used the Boss and the EH. I love the 2880. It's weirder than the > Boss, as you would expect. The MIDI synch is good, too. I've been > testing some new software for EH, so stay tuned... > > > >I'm looking to get back into looping a little more deeply and would > >ideally like a stereo looper that can midi synch (to my laptop with > >ableton live). I think my available candidates are: > > > >1) Looperlative - icredible feature set but I just can't afford it > > > >2) Boss RC50 > > > >3) ElectroHarmonix 2880 - I've had good luck with many of their > >products and the bass micro synth is a favorite, so I'm leaning > >towards this with the foot controller. > > > >Did I miss anything? Any opinions or thoughts? Any issues or bad > >experiences with these? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Tony > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 18:05:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E64B63BEF3; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:04:55 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120a1ea8427fb4b56413ddf1bd174b7e6c407c87288fcf778e7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:05:00 +0000 (UTC) On the 2880 all tracks will be the same length, set by the first loop length. However, the mixdown track can run independantly of the 4 main tracks, and if you alter the speed of the other 4 tracks, say by half speed, the mixdown track will still run at it's normal rate. I wish that the mixdown track could have it's length set independently, so that the live performance aspects available by using the pitch volume and pan knobs could be recorded over several cycles, but that's why we have computers, I guess. >I'm considering either the RC50 or the EH 2880 due to the fact I can >record multiple tracks. What I can't figure out is what happens if >I record two tracks that have different lengths. So, hopefully, >someone with experience with either or both of these loopers can >help me out. > >Let's say I record the first track and it's two minutes long. Now >the first track loops around and I begin the second track which is >only one minute long. When they play again, will I hear the second >track for one minute and one minute of silence? Or will the second >track play twice (which would be equal to the first track)? > >Also on either unit, does the first track establish the length of >the loop? After the first track, can subsequent tracks have a >longer duration or does it have to fit within the length of the >first track? > >Thanks for any help, >LeonD -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 18:07:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 395323BF26; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:07:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mKzUgxEAG8gRJdiPeLBGP7YBRgm2yGJtBOuae1Rgde/1SJUmImTNsJoJMHXAOIhwWtNILe5nTN2TH77+7/62QqLHeMVqqnuhneOj9V8ntKz+6huKaJkztuilkJfGW/109BlaMwyFihIiyoVlQZFp71zeZHZ5pV3TizyOhFX6isM= Message-ID: <55e79c0d0701221007lb3edad7x124662935360f2da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:07:06 -0600 From: "Dan Katayama" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_44444_32022855.1169489226779" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:07:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_44444_32022855.1169489226779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For multiple loop lengths, I would go with the RC50, which I have. I tried out the 2880 as well, and with that unit, the length of the first track defines the length of the other 3 tracks. You can download the manuals for both units off the web for further details. So far, I'm very happy with my RC50! Dan 2007/1/22, Leon Droby : > > I'm considering either the RC50 or the EH 2880 due to the fact I can > record multiple tracks. What I can't figure out is what happens if I > record two tracks that have different lengths. So, hopefully, someone > with experience with either or both of these loopers can help me out. > > Let's say I record the first track and it's two minutes long. Now the > first track loops around and I begin the second track which is only one > minute long. When they play again, will I hear the second track for > one minute and one minute of silence? Or will the second track play > twice (which would be equal to the first track)? > > Also on either unit, does the first track establish the length of the > loop? After the first track, can subsequent tracks have a longer > duration or does it have to fit within the length of the first track? > > Thanks for any help, > LeonD > > -- kosukeweb http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_44444_32022855.1169489226779 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For multiple loop lengths, I would go with the RC50, which I have.
I tried out the 2880 as well, and with that unit, the length of the first track defines the length
of the other 3 tracks.

You can download the manuals for both units off the web for further details.
So far, I'm very happy with my RC50!

Dan



2007/1/22, Leon Droby <ld60@verizon.net>:
I'm considering either the RC50 or the EH 2880 due to the fact I can
record multiple tracks.  What I can't figure out is what happens if I
record two tracks that have different lengths.  So, hopefully, someone
with experience with either or both of these loopers can help me out.

Let's say I record the first track and it's two minutes long.  Now the
first track loops around and I begin the second track which is only one
minute long.  When they play again, will I hear the second track for
one minute and one minute of silence?  Or will the second track play
twice (which would be equal to the first track)?

Also on either unit, does the first track establish the length of the
loop?  After the first track, can subsequent tracks have a longer
duration or does it have to fit within the length of the first track?

Thanks for any help,
LeonD




--
kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_44444_32022855.1169489226779-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 18:07:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9353F3BEF3; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070122175816.309893BF1B@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20070122175816.309893BF1B@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:06:31 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: RE: stereo looper with midi? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120a1ea8427fb4b5641b7aac57c5958656f30febb85a5f48815350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Some basic additions for the 2880. Can't discuss, though! >New software for the 2880 or something else altogether? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net] >> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:57 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? >> >> I've used the Boss and the EH. I love the 2880. It's weirder than the >> Boss, as you would expect. The MIDI synch is good, too. I've been >> testing some new software for EH, so stay tuned... >> >> >> >I'm looking to get back into looping a little more deeply and would >> >ideally like a stereo looper that can midi synch (to my laptop with >> >ableton live). I think my available candidates are: >> > >> >1) Looperlative - icredible feature set but I just can't afford it >> > >> >2) Boss RC50 >> > >> >3) ElectroHarmonix 2880 - I've had good luck with many of their >> >products and the bass micro synth is a favorite, so I'm leaning >> >towards this with the foot controller. >> > >> >Did I miss anything? Any opinions or thoughts? Any issues or bad >> >experiences with these? >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Tony >> >> >> -- >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 18:09:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBEDF3BF28; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAABOMtEXUSnIwk2dsb2JhbACNYgEBAgcOBwYd Message-ID: <45B4FBB4.9000702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:00:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: To all the xperimentalist musicians: Eno-Wright event in San Francisco References: <030a01c73e2b$5bd59bb0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> In-Reply-To: <030a01c73e2b$5bd59bb0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:09:26 +0000 (UTC) http://www.andybutler.com/life/gameoflife.htm "It's probable, given a large enough Life space, initially in a random state, that after a long time, intelligent self reproducing animals will emerge and populate some parts of the space." Berlekamp,Conway,Guy "Winning Ways"Vol2 p849 1982 Original 1970 New Scientist article. http://www.ibiblio.org/lifepatterns/october1970.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_Game_of_Life andy butler > Back in the 1970s both speakers got hooked by cellular automata such > as Conway's "Game of Life," where just a few simple rules could > unleash profoundly unpredictable and infinitely varied dynamic > patterns. Cellular automata were the secret ingredient of Wright's > genre-busting computer game From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 18:15:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79F703BF36; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070122121509.pd254j041wcgo0s0@69.89.21.76> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:15:09 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Leon Droby : > I'm considering either the RC50... I acquired an RC50 a couple of months ago. It is the first loop =20 station with which I have worked, thus I consider myself a newbie. > Let's say I record the first track and it's two minutes long. Now the > first track loops around and I begin the second track which is only one > minute long. When they play again, will I hear the second track for > one minute and one minute of silence? On the RC50, you can select the "Loop sync" mode in which all the =20 loops start together. The first loop determines the length. Shorter =20 loops will play once and restart when the first loop reaches the =20 beginning. This mode is comparable to having a multi-track tape loop =20 wherein you can mute/unmute the separate tracks and they always play =20 in sync as you recorded them. (that is, if you unmute 30 seconds into =20 the loop, the unmuted loop will start 30 seconds into its loop. Or will the second track play > twice (which would be equal to the first track)? Yes, just turn "off" the loop sync. Without loop sync, each loop will =20 repeat as soon as it reaches the end. There is a "loop quantize" function, too. Your long loop can be, say, =20 16 bars and you can have shorter loops within it. When quantize is =20 "on", they will line up "right on the the beat" regardless of when you =20 stopped your recording. When loop sync and quantize is "off", then the three loops act like =20 three independent loop stations -- since it isn't quantized, you have =20 to hit your footpedals precisely where you want to end the loop. > Also on either unit, does the first track establish the length of the > loop? After the first track, can subsequent tracks have a longer > duration or does it have to fit within the length of the first track? On the RC50 (from everything I can determine) the first loop sets the =20 length when you are in loop sync mode. This seems to be the case with =20 quantization, also... I'll check it when I get home. Someone else may have a better explanation of this and I'll look =20 forward to reading any other answers. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 18:18:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30E673BF3C; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAADSOtEXUSnInk2dsb2JhbACNYgEBAgcOBwYd Message-ID: <45B4FD79.5000404@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:07:53 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> In-Reply-To: <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:18:13 +0000 (UTC) > i'm curious as to what functions the looperlative lacks that the edp > has that makes it better for you. > > thanks 2 edps can do this:- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/mp3files/02-aquarium2.mp3 andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 18:26:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E133B3BEFE; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <45B4FD79.5000404@tiscali.co.uk> References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <45B4FD79.5000404@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:26:19 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120a1ea8427fb4b5641febdf070756effd4d8d4a57a33feb8f7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: <7Z4bz.A.RMD.WHQtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:26:30 +0000 (UTC) >2 edps can do this:- > >http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/mp3files/02-aquarium2.mp3 > >andy butler I thought they FIXED that in the latest software revision... :-P -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 18:48:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F22B63BEF3; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CaH2TAWOTGRdFwVPvJppVLItNgCRipu53k1E37YDVVWUOBZMDW4w8VfibTgZH0+xViiDRg7eziN+BhEaoMVIdUC+CRjeJWSqdwEmYGngb/ZU7tVsgC8nx2UMbcNMACKD7Pc8uWpzUeoayjqzhRFSlGwskRx2c5RdH1ZPBgQUo7g= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:48:15 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: To all the xperimentalist musicians: Eno-Wright event in San Francisco In-Reply-To: <45B4FBB4.9000702@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <030a01c73e2b$5bd59bb0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> <45B4FBB4.9000702@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:48:16 +0000 (UTC) This program is pretty cool. based on 1d CA. http://www.fractal-vibes.com/fm/ Tony On 1/22/07, andy butler wrote: > > http://www.andybutler.com/life/gameoflife.htm > > "It's probable, given a large enough Life space, initially in a random > state, that after a long time, intelligent self reproducing animals will > emerge and populate some parts of the space." > Berlekamp,Conway,Guy "Winning Ways"Vol2 p849 1982 > > Original 1970 New Scientist article. > http://www.ibiblio.org/lifepatterns/october1970.html > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_Game_of_Life > > andy butler > > > Back in the 1970s both speakers got hooked by cellular automata such > > as Conway's "Game of Life," where just a few simple rules could > > unleash profoundly unpredictable and infinitely varied dynamic > > patterns. Cellular automata were the secret ingredient of Wright's > > genre-busting computer game > > -- -==-=-=- Tony http://bigtony.blogspot.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 19:11:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A42D3BEE8; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070122131147.guhusbm9s00kwwc4@69.89.21.76> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:11:47 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Unequal Length Tracks in RC50 or 2880? References: <20070122121509.pd254j041wcgo0s0@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: <20070122121509.pd254j041wcgo0s0@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Quoting kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com: > On the RC50 (from everything I can determine) the first loop sets the > length when you are in loop sync mode. This seems to be the case with > quantization, also... I'll check it when I get home. Just to follow up, I looked at the owner's manual and it appears that =20 when loop sync is "off" and loop quantize is "on", that you can start =20 with a short loop and add another loop that is longer. The other night I was practicing and somehow I managed to "chop" a =20 long loop into a one-bar loop. I believe what happenned was that, =20 having all three loops running, I went to the longest loop and cleared =20 it. Having done that, the longest of the remaining loops became the =20 new "overall length". When the longest loop is merely muted, the =20 length doesn't change. Incidentally, I didn't mean to shorten the loop. Having visited Rick =20 Walker's website I had read his advice to "develop a mistake" rather =20 than to discard the mistake. The short loop "mistake" ended up being =20 a lot of fun. Fortunately, I make enough mistakes that I am able to =20 utilize that particular advice often. I'm going to take a look at Mobius. I like the RC50 however I am =20 running Cubase SX3 (which supports VST) and Mobius might work out very =20 well. OK... back to lurking. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 20:04:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B25583BEDC; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1169495638.45b5165696ff4@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:53:58 -0800 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 75.34.168.196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Travis Hartnett : > > The EDP has all those neat features for copying one loop to another > and switching between them so you can build pieces with distinct > parts. As I recall, when the Looperlative was introduced, it > favored the "build a groove and mute/unmute tracks" looping model. Travis, I think it's more in the way that you worded your post, but it sounds from the above as if the Looperlative works on the same sort of "one loop with four tracks" architecture as the Repeater or (I think) the EH 2880. Obviously, that's not the case. Each of the 8 stereo loops in the LP-1 is separate and distinct. Of course, you could intentionally set up four of the loops so that they were synced and do the muting between the tracks like your example above. Likewise, you could do 8 completely separate tracks with different lengths/parts and switch between them at different times in a song. Sort of like the A & B loops of, say, the Boomerang, only you've got A, B, C, D, E, F, G, & H loops. And it goes without saying that you can flexibly combine both approaches. In the initial Sonicstate video from NAMM 2006 ( http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2648# ), I believe Steve Lawson even does A & B loop switching of the type you're talking about above on the EDP. Like I said, I think it was more the way the post was worded, but I wouldn't like anybody casually reading this to get the impression that the LP-1 is nothing more than an expanded Repeater or 2880. It's much different. --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 20:20:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 545133BEE9; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=VjxSSMWMJLIUNvaAW2ePfaYn+TlrTbvNUoV6MJimnGDUVRMPB8UO6FCz+Hoixn+cVGF5LAuNql5PE6rx6jGbxL/NkOAg6T5NhWhm3P/CS6OtufqKid8tiLL6wA0dJ+Wf8bWRTFLTN+ku3RX8/OeXIR4ncLiptN8HK3H3QsbCDPk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1169495638.45b5165696ff4@webmail.m3ch.net> References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> <1169495638.45b5165696ff4@webmail.m3ch.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2AD5879D-39CF-45B8-979F-5EB8AB33B47E@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:20:04 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:20:09 +0000 (UTC) On 22 jan 2007, at 20.53, Mech wrote: > Like I said, I think it was more the way the post was worded, but I > wouldn't > like anybody casually reading this to get the impression that the > LP-1 is > nothing more than an expanded Repeater or 2880. It's much different. The Repeater also had the option of running multiple loops on each of its four mono tracks. Looperlative, on the other hand can, only load one stereo loop per track, but they can be of different lengths and even out of sync. Each track/loop of the LP1 seems to act as a looper of its own that may sync or not to the other seven. One LP1 function I have been reading about and regard useful is being able to cue up a loop to play next. In praxis it is close to the EDP's way of lining up many loops. Who cars where the loop was stored as long as it starts playing next after you have kicked the "Next Loop" button? I have not been able to find out by the manual how this feature works in detail. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 20:34:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F4813BEEC; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <010101c73e64$a62283c0$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: References: <000801c73e49$7fea8880$7fbf9980$@com> Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:33:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:34:12 +0000 (UTC) > The same price? > Can I get a HELL YEAH? Anyone? Anyone? HELL YEAH!!! Same over here.. I have spent many dismal hours trying to figure out if I sold the repeater and the filtor factory and vortex and gr30 and Akai S1000 and stopped smoking YES... maybe I could get a looperlative... but the real answer is that you never really can tell WHAT machine is right right till you have tried one, I keep the repeater for the time stretch and pitch shift stuff NOT the stereo OR multiple tracks, but its a piece of shit apart from that. Why??? Well its somthing to do with ... er... feel... Now I dont understand when some guitarists on this list talk about tube amp warmth or string guages or action... but... the EDP now... well as I sure most edp-ers will agree, it takes a while to get into, but when you are in, you are in.... it kinda melds with you, your feet (that are doing the pressing ) and your hands that are strumming and picking... Your music changes, you change, your iPod playlists change, you talk differently, read better books, drink less, think more... girls talk to you because you are interesting, not because you are in the band, your friends change, you become more creative at work, the boss notices, you get a raise, people around you are influenced by your healthy aura, you start to use words like "aura", the neigbourhood gets a facelift, your house goes up in value... you sell and buy an organic farm, with space for a studio, you spend the winter months in Africa, doing your little bit, and the world becomes a nicer place to live. No... I dont know about the Looperlative, Ive never tried one... I want to... I really, really want one... but as I study the Looperlative Manual PDF... I have to wonder... will it bring peace to the world....? I think not... yours (turning slightly East, where I swear my EDP winks at me) Mark mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com He writes for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=184310747 thank-you -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6334 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 20:44:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10E843BEE8; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WZm9xY1xyRuGxZHZJ2Yhp9xMopUmJCBHDAf7HfA89Gn+zx/7TgCmcxW3SlN3Wraax94YL9ASUuM08vv44L4GyzroQcG7qaKilJ1ZHxU8L/fpzZPJTsukDTsfm59QzWndGsvBqGa6LsOoNnLrms+q2Av+NjZbC8Mker2tsavOmH4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:44:18 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? In-Reply-To: <1169495638.45b5165696ff4@webmail.m3ch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_229191_17220290.1169498658959" References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> <1169495638.45b5165696ff4@webmail.m3ch.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:44:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_229191_17220290.1169498658959 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline No, it really struck me as a super-Repeater (I'm not slighting the LP-1, understand). Making it duplicate the EDP NextLoop type functionality in a deep manner sounded like a bit of an uphill battle, although it might be possible with a sophisticated enough MIDI foot controller, or it might not. I'm not aware of anyone who's actually gone that route, so I'm not sure if it's actually possible. The impression I got in all the initial talk was that it was originally conceived as a "AND type" looper, whereas the EDP is more of a "OR type" looper when it comes to switching between loops. TravisH On 1/22/07, Mech wrote: > > Quoting Travis Hartnett : > > > > The EDP has all those neat features for copying one loop to another > > and switching between them so you can build pieces with distinct > > parts. As I recall, when the Looperlative was introduced, it > > favored the "build a groove and mute/unmute tracks" looping model. > > Travis, > > I think it's more in the way that you worded your post, but it sounds from > the > above as if the Looperlative works on the same sort of "one loop with four > tracks" architecture as the Repeater or (I think) the EH 2880. > > Obviously, that's not the case. > > Each of the 8 stereo loops in the LP-1 is separate and distinct. Of > course, you > could intentionally set up four of the loops so that they were synced and > do > the muting between the tracks like your example above. Likewise, you > could do > 8 completely separate tracks with different lengths/parts and switch > between > them at different times in a song. Sort of like the A & B loops of, say, > the > Boomerang, only you've got A, B, C, D, E, F, G, & H loops. And it goes > without > saying that you can flexibly combine both approaches. > > In the initial Sonicstate video from NAMM 2006 ( > http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2648# ), I believe > Steve > Lawson even does A & B loop switching of the type you're talking about > above on > the EDP. > > Like I said, I think it was more the way the post was worded, but I > wouldn't > like anybody casually reading this to get the impression that the LP-1 is > nothing more than an expanded Repeater or 2880. It's much different. > > --m. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ------=_Part_229191_17220290.1169498658959 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline No, it really struck me as a super-Repeater (I'm not slighting the LP-1, understand).  Making it duplicate the EDP NextLoop type functionality in a deep manner sounded like a bit of an uphill battle, although it might be possible with a sophisticated enough MIDI foot controller, or it might not.  I'm not aware of anyone who's actually gone that route, so I'm not sure if it's actually possible.

The impression I got in all the initial talk was that it was originally conceived as a "AND type" looper, whereas the EDP is more of a "OR type" looper when it comes to switching between loops.

TravisH

On 1/22/07, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
Quoting Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>:
>
> The EDP has all those neat features for copying one loop to another
> and switching between them so you can build pieces with distinct
> parts.  As I recall, when the Looperlative was introduced, it
> favored the "build a groove and mute/unmute tracks" looping model.

Travis,

I think it's more in the way that you worded your post, but it sounds from the
above as if the Looperlative works on the same sort of "one loop with four
tracks" architecture as the Repeater or (I think) the EH 2880.

Obviously, that's not the case.

Each of the 8 stereo loops in the LP-1 is separate and distinct.  Of course, you
could intentionally set up four of the loops so that they were synced and do
the muting between the tracks like your example above.  Likewise, you could do
8 completely separate tracks with different lengths/parts and switch between
them at different times in a song.  Sort of like the A & B loops of, say, the
Boomerang, only you've got A, B, C, D, E, F, G, & H loops.  And it goes without
saying that you can flexibly combine both approaches.

In the initial Sonicstate video from NAMM 2006 (
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2648# ), I believe Steve
Lawson even does A & B loop switching of the type you're talking about above on
the EDP.

Like I said, I think it was more the way the post was worded, but I wouldn't
like anybody casually reading this to get the impression that the LP-1 is
nothing more than an expanded Repeater or 2880.  It's much different.

       --m.


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------=_Part_229191_17220290.1169498658959-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 20:50:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61EB43BEE7; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009401c73e66$fa8428e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:50:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:50:50 +0000 (UTC) > One LP1 function I have been reading about and regard useful is being > able to cue up a loop to play next. Correct. The cue function marks a loop as ready to play (or record if it is empty). Then the next time any loop stops, the cued tracks begin playing and/or recording. Then you can use either the STOP or STOP NOW to trigger the switch. The nice thing about using the STOP to trigger is that it will cause the switch to occur as soon as the current loop ends. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 20:54:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EA603BEF6; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <009401c73e66$fa8428e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> References: <009401c73e66$fa8428e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:54:21 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120a1ea8427fb4b56413f25bafd82ee4f61bf3294552ef4316f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Is that global or can you cue a single loop track? i.e. can you keep some background loop going? >>One LP1 function I have been reading about and regard useful is being >>able to cue up a loop to play next. > >Correct. The cue function marks a loop as ready to play (or record if it is >empty). Then the next time any loop stops, the cued tracks begin playing >and/or recording. Then you can use either the STOP or STOP NOW to trigger >the switch. The nice thing about using the STOP to trigger is that it will >cause the switch to occur as soon as the current loop ends. -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 21:00:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A728B3BEF7; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Zoe Keating Subject: how i'm looping these days Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:00:18 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: 90f96311-aa5b-11db-8638-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtfYFU0Dlt1 UkhJRUJQFQ9oARYA DlAWVgdwdwRYeXt5 e0RhWm9ZWUZ/akYz Hk4paW1/MgJgaGMb UEAWdQtcd01DfklM bFN+VW5cMGBVe3th EwV2b25qbXAHcH0M ElwBdg1NSk8dHjkj DxFNGH0rGkodRiM8 ZwAmJ0URVEoYI15a X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:536/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:00:26 +0000 (UTC) ok, FINALLY i am in one place long enough to write this email. i'm in london, where it is COLD. i think fabio asked how i am looping 12 tracks with minimal foot swtiching. so... dummy clips in ableton live the setup goes like this: - my foot taps a button on the FCB1010 - the FCB1010 sends PC messages to Ableton - PC messages launch clips or scenes or a sequence of clips - some of the clips are midi clips containing notes - midi notes are translated in midipipe and sent back to Repeater1, Repeater2, and Ableton* - these midi clips work like sequencers, sending batches of timed commands to the Repeaters (record, stop record, next track, record, pan, mute, etc) - some of the clips are blank audio clips - the blank audio clips contain envelope information for the audio coming in from Repeater1 and Repeater2 (like an automated mixer. for example to fade out the audio of a Repeater) Sounds complicated, but its actually very simple. whereas before every button of the FCB1010 controlled a single function of a Repeater, now i have a button to do the batches of things I tend to do, but i only have to press the button once. Snags: - Repeaters can't deal with midi messages fired at them in close succession. i have to space things out so no messages are sent simultaneously, however, with clever spacing of the sequenced events, it "seems" simultaneous. - I think it might be my midi interfaces (emagic) but sometimes notes are dropped. i can still "take control" of the repeater at any time when an error occurs though by using the same old banks I always used on the FCB1010. anyway, that's the long and short of it. its been pretty revolutionary for me because i can spend more time playing the cello and less time worrying about hitting the right sequence of footswitches. my time is about to run out on this internet access (so expensive over here!!) or i would write more. ask questions if you have them. *Note about Abletone: my intention was to use the Looperlative for the extra 4 loops, but I had some difficulties using the unit and found it quicker to program Ableton. also, since i have to travel pretty far and wanted all my gear to fit in a 5 space rack, i decided to lose the Looperlative and use the computer (have my motu and power supply in the 5th space). this is not to say i won't use the Looperlative later, i just ran out of time and had to move on to a tool i was more familiar with. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 21:10:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BC343BEDC; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1169499616.45b525e0045a4@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:00:16 -0800 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> <1169495638.45b5165696ff4@webmail.m3ch.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 75.34.168.196 Resent-Message-ID: <_HcYbD.A.ftC.ShStFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Travis Hartnett : > > No, it really struck me as a super-Repeater (I'm not slighting the > LP-1, understand). Oh, no harm, no foul: I understand that. I just didn't want you to think I was jumping down your throat, either. :) > Making it duplicate the EDP NextLoop type functionality in a > deep manner sounded like a bit of an uphill battle, although it > might be possible with a sophisticated enough MIDI foot controller, > or it might not. I'm not aware of anyone who's actually gone that > route, so I'm not sure if it's actually possible. Yeah, it's more a matter of setting up the buttons properly. Keep in mind that the LP-1 can set up multiple functions in a row for a single button press. Steve Lawson posted on the Looperlative board his button configuration to do (I think) just what you're talking about, here: http://www.looperlative.com/060913discuss/viewtopic.php?p=1047#1047 It takes a bit to get your head around the basic concept (that a single button will do function A, then B, then C, then D, depending on how you program it within the LP-1), but you mostly have to work it out in your head while you're programming it. Afterward, you just use the button and don't have to think so much about the chain of commands it's executing. Not to mention that, then again, there are several functions that require a bit of thought on the EDP too. ;) > The impression I got in all the initial talk was that it was > originally conceived as a "AND type" looper, whereas the EDP is > more of a "OR type" looper when it comes to switching between > loops. That's not entirely incorrect at all, and I believe that those early discussions were driven a lot by people just trying to understand what was going on with the LP-1, as well as trying to fit it within one of their pre-conceived paradigms or "thought boxes". I'm not surprised that you may have gotten that impression from those early conversations. As I mentioned, though, it's entirely possible to approach it from either direction: multiple streaming tracks that are muted and unmuted against each other, or individual tracks that are started then switch to another track(s) in A/B fashion as they end. --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 21:18:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 509683BEEA; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0C86A32C-4C46-4938-8169-01691725DBA7@fuse.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: monk Subject: Re: how i'm looping these days Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:18:46 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: <3g0o3B.A.qGD.7oStFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:18:51 +0000 (UTC) yeah, but are you getting a click or metronome from ableton? On Jan 22, 2007, at 4:00 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > ok, FINALLY i am in one place long enough to write this email. i'm > in london, where it is COLD. > > i think fabio asked how i am looping 12 tracks with minimal foot > swtiching. > > so... > > dummy clips in ableton live > > the setup goes like this: > > - my foot taps a button on the FCB1010 > - the FCB1010 sends PC messages to Ableton > - PC messages launch clips or scenes or a sequence of clips > - some of the clips are midi clips containing notes > - midi notes are translated in midipipe and sent back to Repeater1, > Repeater2, and Ableton* > - these midi clips work like sequencers, sending batches of timed > commands to the Repeaters (record, stop record, next track, record, > pan, mute, etc) > - some of the clips are blank audio clips > - the blank audio clips contain envelope information for the audio > coming in from Repeater1 and Repeater2 (like an automated mixer. > for example to fade out the audio of a Repeater) > > Sounds complicated, but its actually very simple. whereas before > every button of the FCB1010 controlled a single function of a > Repeater, now i have a button to do the batches of things I tend to > do, but i only have to press the button once. > > Snags: > > - Repeaters can't deal with midi messages fired at them in close > succession. i have to space things out so no messages are sent > simultaneously, however, with clever spacing of the sequenced > events, it "seems" simultaneous. > - I think it might be my midi interfaces (emagic) but sometimes > notes are dropped. i can still "take control" of the repeater at > any time when an error occurs though by using the same old banks I > always used on the FCB1010. > > anyway, that's the long and short of it. its been pretty > revolutionary for me because i can spend more time playing the > cello and less time worrying about hitting the right sequence of > footswitches. > > my time is about to run out on this internet access (so expensive > over here!!) or i would write more. > ask questions if you have them. > > > > *Note about Abletone: my intention was to use the Looperlative for > the extra 4 loops, but I had some difficulties using the unit and > found it quicker to program Ableton. also, since i have to travel > pretty far and wanted all my gear to fit in a 5 space rack, i > decided to lose the Looperlative and use the computer (have my motu > and power supply in the 5th space). this is not to say i won't use > the Looperlative later, i just ran out of time and had to move on > to a tool i was more familiar with. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 21:19:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF3DA3BEEA; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=t9g11J7oBBFVRAPErgR8qV2VGppNzW8Ydo6AY1cLZ27ZHlXXt2oze+kvjiAfKOqtUskzqB+HantFFPVkds1RXMJnyUCxsE1Zu5yrfBKxiW254U/kxra0cRFGWRa1HYE/4lY8W3V1PLblgewZEx9ccPrebUmqzG4e9cjhNXI/gUM= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:19:42 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? In-Reply-To: <1169499616.45b525e0045a4@webmail.m3ch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_229720_22137792.1169500782108" References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> <1169495638.45b5165696ff4@webmail.m3ch.net> <1169499616.45b525e0045a4@webmail.m3ch.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:19:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_229720_22137792.1169500782108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ah--that is interesting. Did KH's NextLoop feature ever get implemented? I need to hop around 3 and 4 loops for a lot of my pieces, and it looks like I'd have to do a bunch of programming to give me all the options of "mute 1, unmute 2", "mute 1, unmute 3", etc. TH On 1/22/07, Mech wrote: > > Quoting Travis Hartnett : > > > Yeah, it's more a matter of setting up the buttons properly. Keep in mind > that > the LP-1 can set up multiple functions in a row for a single button press. > Steve Lawson posted on the Looperlative board his button configuration to > do (I > think) just what you're talking about, here: > > http://www.looperlative.com/060913discuss/viewtopic.php?p=1047#1047 > > It takes a bit to get your head around the basic concept (that a single > button > will do function A, then B, then C, then D, depending on how you program > it > within the LP-1), but you mostly have to work it out in your head while > you're > programming it. Afterward, you just use the button and don't have to > think so > much about the chain of commands it's executing. Not to mention that, > then > again, there are several functions that require a bit of thought on the > EDP > too. ;) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ------=_Part_229720_22137792.1169500782108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ah--that is interesting.  Did KH's NextLoop feature ever get implemented?  I need to hop around 3 and 4 loops for a lot of my pieces, and it looks like I'd have to do a bunch of programming to give me all the options of "mute 1, unmute 2", "mute 1, unmute 3", etc.

TH

On 1/22/07, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
Quoting Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>:


Yeah, it's more a matter of setting up the buttons properly.  Keep in mind that
the LP-1 can set up multiple functions in a row for a single button press.
Steve Lawson posted on the Looperlative board his button configuration to do (I
think) just what you're talking about, here:

http://www.looperlative.com/060913discuss/viewtopic.php?p=1047#1047

It takes a bit to get your head around the basic concept (that a single button
will do function A, then B, then C, then D, depending on how you program it
within the LP-1), but you mostly have to work it out in your head while you're
programming it.  Afterward, you just use the button and don't have to think so
much about the chain of commands it's executing.  Not to mention that, then
again, there are several functions that require a bit of thought on the EDP
too.  ;)


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------=_Part_229720_22137792.1169500782108-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 22:26:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AED7A3BEDA; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Gjw0PujWu76vda5F6zLrqg5CHcXAScu9M0mh1yK3l/xzsRHMpgo9qnnFWQkYj2vATyjbZBKNrcLkpHRYE2peULWJ5EzSYViZukcjxmltZDZ1Ulo1nuJcY5QmUZjCITdz9rlXo7AjfOJdFW63E1nWgPEXsNeiYeKR4A8TEVFYS+I=; X-YMail-OSG: gociuicVM1khRLKtFlPmRD6fa5_M9wr2Ytc9CB8pfOaufEG.Z0RBBXrUp4snzZL6sTHsvZFlTsspDsyw8hUD3t9aIQ-- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:26:03 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <252656.88074.qm@web38610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Per,you´ve wakened my interest in mobius again i stopped using it when it first came out because all the little bugs, how stable is Mobius now compared to the EDP in a live situation? cheers Luis > Leaving out the the hypothetical conditions of this > thread, Mobius is > my chosen looping tool IRL, at least for doing live > concerts. On some > rare occasions I use an EDP for some special effect > looping in the > studio (odd stuttering stuff that Mobius can't do). > On studio > recordings I also perform live looping with generic > tape delay > simulation plug-ins like the Lexicon PSP42, Expert > Sleepers Augustus > Loop and the very good tape sim "Tape Delay" that > comes as a part of > Logic. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 22:28:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E1883BEEA; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=GmSv9h53H/N+DwRi01InhJVFAVk8SBo6g3i4EkbozhOCEw0EZSZkBnWg1gEV6KXNZLm7bo9WEfBTU3Y0SjTLfljgGJwiWfI/LqcFXlA0JiKip4cKTHE+ZZHh/ZOPRxYMSTzJGJ+LC+ROvAaknb4vf2EfbnG5JxyWSn3898JYawc=; X-YMail-OSG: cUDIYuEVM1ntZa1xz7khqLp8IqF76fYP.km0p1i4zjT8Xl.SSS_GrLJuHD62GYCZNA-- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:28:39 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: FCB1010 UnO Firmware To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45B4D622.4090802@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <840261.54250.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:28:41 +0000 (UTC) thinking about upgrading anybody here using this latest software for the FCB1010?worth getting and happy with it? Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 22:55:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3BE63BEE6; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2TvTCF61gssREIVtdglANJ3GZq5Fmink0c7I7LrQKjOsCCczESH2F89PFpATbW0n7buqwa9Wxm9J9pzrHGYYXqPf6v3jAgP7NR+3v4ugO1gn96+d2nNC4ahSX51Qdymw84bPKkeetRbVy3qDpgSckcS0JzaH5faEBSTeK5mFrR4=; X-YMail-OSG: Tlt2faUVM1mWlpnYxU.JnTAG5K.iVP6p29OjflwW Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:55:39 +0000 (GMT) From: MATTHEW STEVENS Subject: London looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0C86A32C-4C46-4938-8169-01691725DBA7@fuse.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1767239227-1169506539=:71161" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <848335.71161.qm@web86108.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:55:41 +0000 (UTC) --0-1767239227-1169506539=:71161 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello I want to put on a looping night in London who would like to play? I'll sort a venue this week - I know loads of promoters. Best Regards Matt www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar --0-1767239227-1169506539=:71161 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello
 
I want to put on a looping night in London who would like to play?  I'll sort a venue this week - I know loads of promoters.
 
Best Regards
 
Matt
 
www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar
--0-1767239227-1169506539=:71161-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 22:57:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBF0D3BEE6; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kY88aGjmY7jOpljv+pWzOxPVkUqyUg6AuguW7jKTSKqPNOpNQq+CskvDop66gh+NDoww3gy3BXUwNOztsEBX+2xF9NGCq4S3XvtTlKtDjJNcLg4+1WgpM0brg7EYtptYsqvonINL9f84E28hzS86AKt2GpfYQyzdv7PkM29tc/o= Message-ID: <55e79c0d0701221457j49a35af7sc39f51cae3f8bfc8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:57:22 -0600 From: "Dan Katayama" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: London looping In-Reply-To: <848335.71161.qm@web86108.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_49438_29688551.1169506642325" References: <0C86A32C-4C46-4938-8169-01691725DBA7@fuse.net> <848335.71161.qm@web86108.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <09ZJED.A.WtH.UFUtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:57:24 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_49438_29688551.1169506642325 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Man, I wish I knew you when I was in London last November!! Hope you have a good gig! 2007/1/22, MATTHEW STEVENS : > > Hello > > I want to put on a looping night in London who would like to play? I'll > sort a venue this week - I know loads of promoters. > > Best Regards > > Matt > > www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar > -- kosukeweb http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_49438_29688551.1169506642325 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Man, I wish I knew you when I was in London last November!!
Hope you have a good gig!


2007/1/22, MATTHEW STEVENS <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >:
Hello
 
I want to put on a looping night in London who would like to play?  I'll sort a venue this week - I know loads of promoters.
 
Best Regards
 
Matt
 



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http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_49438_29688551.1169506642325-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 22 23:50:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D32F3BEDD; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1169509193.45b54b49575db@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:39:53 -0800 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> <1169495638.45b5165696ff4@webmail.m3ch.net> <1169499616.45b525e0045a4@webmail.m3ch.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 75.34.168.196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Travis Hartnett : > > Ah--that is interesting. Did KH's NextLoop feature ever get > implemented? I need to hop around 3 and 4 loops for a lot of > my pieces, and it looks like I'd have to do a bunch of programming > to give me all the options of "mute 1, unmute 2", "mute 1, unmute > 3", etc. Yeah, I think "Cue Track" function answered Kris' feature request for an EDP-like NextLoop feature. It places the next track into record/play at the end of the playing track's current cycle. That is, if I'm understanding what Kris' original request was. So, you could "Play/Dub" on the current Track, then hit "Cue" & "Stop" and the next Track would begin recording just as the current one stopped, IIRC. Is that what you were looking for? --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 00:21:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 755FC3BEE7; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=wwtnMaCEUilI5/vbGJwk/5UMgDuE54ml55qDtpxBkO69Qb8+UlAn0baUYuRBkk48B70+heLvY+5YI4qlfLFwfnCtdfmXTlMkFnE05YWPq0xr9GTz7pC0Y4Ggqhaj1xBiq6kc3KFfqnbdVSm3JqZK7K0Osus8d/RiplXUalFm4PM=; X-YMail-OSG: 1Req7mEVM1lPpanIHfI1BJfRIdzAHaerIJKbaauTj31IWeagCSJwSS.mlAoIcyek5GfE8irSo7wzbqNarifJ91M6iO7v_vDvV3yZwOBJ4jWC6QMCqMk- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:21:25 -0800 (PST) From: grw20022 Subject: Re: how i'm looping these days To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-333112724-1169511685=:45313" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <339882.45313.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:21:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-333112724-1169511685=:45313 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit looking to sell the korg microkorg synth, with vocader, great condition only surface scatch. e-mail me an offer I have to move. Gerry grw2002@hotmail.com Zoe Keating wrote: ok, FINALLY i am in one place long enough to write this email. i'm in london, where it is COLD. i think fabio asked how i am looping 12 tracks with minimal foot swtiching. so... dummy clips in ableton live the setup goes like this: - my foot taps a button on the FCB1010 - the FCB1010 sends PC messages to Ableton - PC messages launch clips or scenes or a sequence of clips - some of the clips are midi clips containing notes - midi notes are translated in midipipe and sent back to Repeater1, Repeater2, and Ableton* - these midi clips work like sequencers, sending batches of timed commands to the Repeaters (record, stop record, next track, record, pan, mute, etc) - some of the clips are blank audio clips - the blank audio clips contain envelope information for the audio coming in from Repeater1 and Repeater2 (like an automated mixer. for example to fade out the audio of a Repeater) Sounds complicated, but its actually very simple. whereas before every button of the FCB1010 controlled a single function of a Repeater, now i have a button to do the batches of things I tend to do, but i only have to press the button once. Snags: - Repeaters can't deal with midi messages fired at them in close succession. i have to space things out so no messages are sent simultaneously, however, with clever spacing of the sequenced events, it "seems" simultaneous. - I think it might be my midi interfaces (emagic) but sometimes notes are dropped. i can still "take control" of the repeater at any time when an error occurs though by using the same old banks I always used on the FCB1010. anyway, that's the long and short of it. its been pretty revolutionary for me because i can spend more time playing the cello and less time worrying about hitting the right sequence of footswitches. my time is about to run out on this internet access (so expensive over here!!) or i would write more. ask questions if you have them. *Note about Abletone: my intention was to use the Looperlative for the extra 4 loops, but I had some difficulties using the unit and found it quicker to program Ableton. also, since i have to travel pretty far and wanted all my gear to fit in a 5 space rack, i decided to lose the Looperlative and use the computer (have my motu and power supply in the 5th space). this is not to say i won't use the Looperlative later, i just ran out of time and had to move on to a tool i was more familiar with. --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? 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Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com> wrote:
ok, FINALLY i am in one place long enough to write this email. i'm in
london, where it is COLD.

i think fabio asked how i am looping 12 tracks with minimal foot
swtiching.

so...

dummy clips in ableton live

the setup goes like this:

- my foot taps a button on the FCB1010
- the FCB1010 sends PC messages to Ableton
- PC messages launch clips or scenes or a sequence of clips
- some of the clips are midi clips containing notes
- midi notes are translated in midipipe and sent back to Repeater1,
Repeater2, and Ableton*
- these midi clips work like sequencers, sending batches of timed
commands to the Repeaters (record, stop record, next track, record,
pan, mute, etc)
- some of the clips are blank audio clips
- the blank audio clips contain envelope information for the audio
coming in from Repeater1 and Repeater2 (like an automated mixer. for
example to fade out the audio of a Repeater)

Sounds complicated, but its actually very simple. whereas before
every button of the FCB1010 controlled a single function of a
Repeater, now i have a button to do the batches of things I tend to
do, but i only have to press the button once.

Snags:

- Repeaters can't deal with midi messages fired at them in close
succession. i have to space things out so no messages are sent
simultaneously, however, with clever spacing of the sequenced events,
it "seems" simultaneous.
- I think it might be my midi interfaces (emagic) but sometimes notes
are dropped. i can still "take control" of the repeater at any time
when an error occurs though by using the same old banks I always used
on the FCB1010.

anyway, that's the long and short of it. its been pretty
revolutionary for me because i can spend more time playing the cello
and less time worrying about hitting the right sequence of footswitches.

my time is about to run out on this internet access (so expensive
over here!!) or i would write more.
ask questions if you have them.



*Note about Abletone: my intention was to use the Looperlative for
the extra 4 loops, but I had some difficulties using the unit and
found it quicker to program Ableton. also, since i have to travel
pretty far and wanted all my gear to fit in a 5 space rack, i decided
to lose the Looperlative and use the computer (have my motu and power
supply in the 5th space). this is not to say i won't use the
Looperlative later, i just ran out of time and had to move on to a
tool i was more familiar with.



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Answers users. --0-333112724-1169511685=:45313-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 00:27:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A64193BEF0; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YXfTk52Rx1MrkYELRMfvzHfi9Vv+amSVp/YxG52LDNZOWTLD6OpyzC3MYSCtddzVe4zpzX7Vkx/CPecQOaHWUMGYQ+WIW7CN3dJHrnquQlr101MiYYmAhhgHnBTLnOt8ItDnMhXPrJoRtpG5ztDOrZqL2cs/J3CHKPnyMkc7taQ=; X-YMail-OSG: DQRSKakVM1mXd8IXpQ_VdeNEXaejeA6fZyN71k52hLjs_0nPL1c7AtA6L0F_w7ABsPJ4VIBPOXhAhU19FEPTewlcUykeCuVz1WZXdZAJ6vZ4dVUqXsdiYTl4NPmFuhe47CvPaiAGPkbvYt.6YoYzKcrJvEGhwAVr Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:27:34 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: OT: Wireless Headphones for studio use To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1169509193.45b54b49575db@webmail.m3ch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <22425.57660.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Well, the day is soon upon me... soon I don Birkenstocks and head toward Berkeley, CA. The place we're moving to has a wonderful space for my loopstudio. However... it's right off the main living room and since it's a loft style condo there's really no ceiling. It just goes up to the 3rd floor which is the bedroom. I know, I know. It's got issues, but I'm sure the acoustics can be addressed in time. What I'm more worried about in the short term is getting a set of comfortable headphones that do an amazing job blocking out the outside world. (probably TV) Since I bounce around from instrument to instrument a lot I'd rather not have to deal with wires. I have Shure E5s that I use on the train and I like them a lot. Is the wireless monitor system by them going to make me happy? Anyone used it? I'm open to all suggestions... Mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 00:45:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3322F3BEDD; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> <000801c73e49$7fea8880$7fbf9980$@com> <1169498120.45b52008129d9@webmail.m3ch.net> In-Reply-To: <1169498120.45b52008129d9@webmail.m3ch.net> Subject: RE: stereo looper with midi? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:45:00 -0500 Message-ID: <003701c73e87$b7e84c70$27b8e550$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acc+ZkpzhGeeHbkuTHmvP0qU2aq3KgAIIWJg Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: <5Vqx5D.A.AeD.RqVtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:45:06 +0000 (UTC) > > Hrm, well, take into account that stereo is a non-negotiable requirement(!!!!) > and: > > MSRP LP-1 = $1499 > MSRP EDP = $1499(x2, brother synced) or $2998 > > So, we're talking about $3000 for one stereo looper, or $1500 for eight stereo > loopers. I'll give you a big HELL YEAH that the Looperlative *doesn't* cost as > much as the EDP. ;) > Ahhh, I was talking for my situation..I already have an EDP, and have seen them used for as little as $600...so I don't have to spend $1500 for one, or even $1000 retail new. I can't get a Looperlative used (there aren't many new, I am guessing). So, I either buy another EDP @ $600-$1000, or 1 Looperlative @ ? (Certainly over that price). My point being, many times, you can't get gear without selling old gear. With any kind of 'technology' equipment, you also can't decide if it works for you unless you have it for awhile. For someone with no looping equipment who will have to spend lots of money no matter what, I understand why the Looperlative bought new might be a better choice right now than 2 EDPs. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, no copies From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 00:50:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A287D3BEDF; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <45B4D622.4090802@mhorse.com> <840261.54250.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <840261.54250.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: FCB1010 UnO Firmware Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:50:24 -0500 Message-ID: <003901c73e88$77cbfc80$6763f580$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acc+dKsJfyR4Vg2NS8ucC+kGEsWQMwAE65EA Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:50:28 +0000 (UTC) I am using it...I gotta say, it rocks...and it is supported by the software editors out there. I ain't goin' back. Dave Eichenberger- http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, no copies > > thinking about upgrading anybody here using this > latest software for the FCB1010?worth getting and > happy with it? > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 01:11:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7B593BEE6; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <003901c73e88$77cbfc80$6763f580$@com> References: <45B4D622.4090802@mhorse.com> <840261.54250.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <003901c73e88$77cbfc80$6763f580$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <362F324D-5C3F-4D37-9B48-10A30AA91CCF@mac.com> Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Kumpel Subject: Re: FCB1010 UnO Firmware Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:10:53 -0500 To: artists@hazardfactor.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:11:10 +0000 (UTC) what looper are you using it with? teddy PS, I just joined this list and I have already learned a lot in 2 days. Thanks people. On Jan 22, 2007, at 7:50 PM, hazard factor wrote: > I am using it...I gotta say, it rocks...and it is supported by the > software > editors out there. I ain't goin' back. > > > Dave Eichenberger- > http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, > no copies > > >> >> thinking about upgrading anybody here using this >> latest software for the FCB1010?worth getting and >> happy with it? >> Luis >> >> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 01:20:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70A213BEE7; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <45B4D622.4090802@mhorse.com> <840261.54250.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <003901c73e88$77cbfc80$6763f580$@com> <362F324D-5C3F-4D37-9B48-10A30AA91CCF@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <362F324D-5C3F-4D37-9B48-10A30AA91CCF@mac.com> Subject: RE: FCB1010 UnO Firmware Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:20:31 -0500 Message-ID: <003d01c73e8c$acf6fdc0$06e4f940$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acc+i159XOh2E0K7RUSs11INcG3ryAAAS99Q Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:20:35 +0000 (UTC) I use it with an Echoplex, but it also controls my guitar synth and effects. Dave Eichenberger- http://www.hazardfactor.com > what looper are you using it with? > > teddy > > PS, I just joined this list and I have already learned a lot in 2 days. > Thanks people. > > On Jan 22, 2007, at 7:50 PM, hazard factor wrote: > > > I am using it...I gotta say, it rocks...and it is supported by the > > software > > editors out there. I ain't goin' back. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 02:50:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D59063BED9; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TfvUVprWfVD9Yqw8NrRIRMwsw46pNpopnykQlTywlDiqVAxe1E6NaiPn3DTXrMtqR35rWHvXXGg6BGv4RhOXAhn0fr0hYjUZcC7xvigOljXZ66LYJM+lTPmkAai84TX/aWoMc57WslXoeaoPgOCYgJ5NVgcTb9P7o8u1T9J8R+E=; X-YMail-OSG: AgyqvagVM1nz3.uCx.9PV418h.Gr11YOYNWZJ_pVhDXfO_wv6OjqgkKMhgeWEsptt7t6f9IoWzKqUjZJyDTpsNCe9SI9QbSpy6WrwW.qMUg0yJwCrpA- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:50:09 -0800 (PST) From: John Tidwell Subject: RE: FCB1010 UnO Firmware To: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <003d01c73e8c$acf6fdc0$06e4f940$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <367026.79479.qm@web34809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Could someone provide a "For Dummies" explanation of what the UnO firmware does? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? 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Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 02:53:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB4F73BEDA; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701230253.l0N2rYPl086374@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: FCB1010 UnO Firmware Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:53:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <367026.79479.qm@web34809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc+mTQyKIzLx+hVTByx6tKNBdgvdgAAFk9g X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:53:40 +0000 (UTC) And also were it can be found. Thanks Bill -----Original Message----- From: John Tidwell [mailto:wedgehed@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 6:50 PM To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: FCB1010 UnO Firmware Could someone provide a "For Dummies" explanation of what the UnO firmware does? ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 03:21:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC8DD3BEE1; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <367026.79479.qm@web34809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200701230253.l0N2rYPl086374@mail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <200701230253.l0N2rYPl086374@mail.cruzio.com> Subject: RE: FCB1010 UnO Firmware Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:21:06 -0500 Message-ID: <004901c73e9d$852f0fb0$8f8d2f10$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acc+mTQyKIzLx+hVTByx6tKNBdgvdgAAFk9gAADzgtA= Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:21:09 +0000 (UTC) The best place to read about it is here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcb1010_uno/ It has been around awhile, and really makes the FCB-1010 a great choice among the less than $500 midi controllers. Dave Eichenberger- http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives <--- 50 CDs, 50 hours, no copies > > And also were it can be found. > Thanks > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 06:40:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E5693BED9; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YAqX700llXo6NyL+w96A1PJKhlvjLeRlnSw1Rf2OGA6cJv8zyzsurZIFtRzvKBj9; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <380-2200712236440700@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: r.d.w.i.v@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.2.122.0 (Windows) From: "r.d.w.i.v@earthlink.net" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: RE: FCB1010 UnO Firmware Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:44:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_595211234736440700" X-ELNK-Trace: 2f0e8e63232cd512ba38eb534146710e7e972de0d01da940b1c33f30de5116da09b4143a06beacdd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.225.190.134 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:40:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_NextPart_595211234736440700 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Here's a direct link for the about UnO chip http://www.mtnsys.com/faq-fcb/UnO%20Firmware.htm Rick Williamson ------=_NextPart_595211234736440700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Here's a direct link for the about UnO chip
 
------=_NextPart_595211234736440700-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 09:45:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E3283BEDB; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=sEIbFzZbR6MncDaAmXXjQtImkYU+EV3NLuzDBq390AIQhT5mnHOeTGWkiZLt29BSoR7M/cc94hIlkoAmqcq3l5kR2RPbwgjNboYJASlVH7zySNF3Ix9mtBFN7brRpgmMQ9eTZem6di5HjhUJe0sYt3xKFP4CSoR2tb9p7uvaGYw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <252656.88074.qm@web38610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <252656.88074.qm@web38610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:44:54 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <8A1e_.A.34G.hkdtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:45:06 +0000 (UTC) On 22 jan 2007, at 23.26, L.A. Angulo wrote: > Per,you=B4ve wakened my interest in mobius again i > stopped using it when it first came out because all > the little bugs, how stable is Mobius now compared to > the EDP in a live situation? Well, well... that question is as impossible to answer correctly as =20 it's impossible to even put ;-)) The short answer, if I should look =20 to statistics, would be that Mobius is double as "stable" as the EDP, =20= since I have never had a crash with Mobius during concert but I have =20 had one crash with my EDP during concert. But you can't really think about it that way. Stability in software =20 doesn't solely depend on the software itself (that's why you can =20 seriously discuss simply "how stable is Mobius"). Stability depends =20 an a number of factors like the hardware used in the computer and =20 also the way the software is used. I'll try to sum up the factors =20 I've taken care of for safe Mobius looping: - Using a laptop with dedicated memory for graphics (not memory =20 shared on the mobo for graphicx). - Using 1 or 2 GB RAM. - Using a "last years model" audio interface (one that has been =20 proven to work well for others in the past) with the fastest data =20 submission protocol (PCMCIA for laptop) (I have tried two USB audio =20 interfaces but both were crap, although the music stores advertise =20 them as "pro gear") - Running only Mobius on the laptop (no host application, no plug-ins). - Not much other software installed on the laptop. I pretty much =20 regard it "looping hardware". I never use it for Internet because I =20 don't bog it down with any Symantic Anti Virus or similar software on =20= it (I use macs for internet and office work.. as well as for all pro =20 audio work, except for Mobius ;-) - I never upgrade Windows XP from the minimal installation I =20 originally found stable. - When looping in Mobius, I typically run the laptop on 30 percent =20 CPU capacity. If I fill up all eight tracks with loops I might hit 60 =20= percent, but I rarely run more than three loops/tracks simultaneously. - Trying out the optimal setting for audio interface driver buffer =20 and sticking to it Well, I think that's it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 10:04:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEC1E3BEDA; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pGpzBCmyu8gQ8N8gxsrkBlTdKIVpIOTTV8TWTWDOlM5PUDXY/PNbvpU2Mq9iiReyO40CAexVCjeiy9qs4JFb6C0Q7MVArRVqDg9X8ZKYkhYbEKYAAAu6PET9oiRTOBWXMJHcD2Z276hu5XVpBTQZ+8eIt1zsY79A0HRtj0E2cwM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <840261.54250.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <840261.54250.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <21DAA69F-7C6F-4056-9C72-8E99E08AA977@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: FCB1010 UnO Firmware Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:04:04 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <7U2iLB.A.PqH.d2dtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:04:13 +0000 (UTC) On 22 jan 2007, at 23.28, L.A. Angulo wrote: > thinking about upgrading anybody here using this > latest software for the FCB1010?worth getting and > happy with it? The spec's are published at http://www.mtnsys.com/faq-fcb/UnO% 20Firmware.htm. I read through that page and did not find that UnO would add anything I need for my recent looping activities. I'm on my second FCB1010 now, the first one lasted four years. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 11:19:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BAAA3BEDC; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=C3pwnbPvf+IMuSRBMliN3zaufaduHNP4aIMFlB7oj9yi1O6jEvjqQQE3zt/5nmov/tW5jlX3bWzKbWfFrNO47L/vxEwsk1XZfN0mbnAVytYZ0NmMQlW89atEg/8HzS6YG2eNk8TPuSuk/7OiapbKOvWaRYLsBBk1ilUOoDXLcI4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1169499616.45b525e0045a4@webmail.m3ch.net> References: <91BAAF86-35D6-496E-8B8D-2BCDB1AD33D7@gmail.com> <00ABCA1F-CEDB-4BF0-9E3A-2D50600FA1EF@fuse.net> <4B08B31E-599E-4E99-AF3A-DE3C960C95E7@gmail.com> <4AEBCE98-44FC-4E07-BCAD-6F0BA951F681@fuse.net> <1169495638.45b5165696ff4@webmail.m3ch.net> <1169499616.45b525e0045a4@webmail.m3ch.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: stereo looper with midi? Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:19:26 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:19:32 +0000 (UTC) On 22 jan 2007, at 22.00, Mech wrote: > Yeah, it's more a matter of setting up the buttons properly. Keep > in mind that > the LP-1 can set up multiple functions in a row for a single button > press. > Steve Lawson posted on the Looperlative board his button > configuration to do (I > think) just what you're talking about, here: > > http://www.looperlative.com/060913discuss/viewtopic.php?p=1047#1047 > > It takes a bit to get your head around the basic concept (that a > single button > will do function A, then B, then C, then D, depending on how you > program it > within the LP-1), but you mostly have to work it out in your head > while you're > programming it. Afterward, you just use the button and don't have > to think so > much about the chain of commands it's executing. Not to mention > that, then > again, there are several functions that require a bit of thought on > the EDP > too. ;) Thanks for posting that link to the Looperlative forum. Very interesting! I love the concept of being able to use one foot button for a sequence of looping actions, or alternate actions. For Mobius I use the built-in scripting to customize the interface for my FCB1010. For Ableton Live, Augustus Loop and my EDP that I was mainly using two years ago I was working in the way Zoe described in her latest post, to achieve multi functionality in single foot buttons. A further dimension, available with Mobius (and to some extend with the EDP) is to have a single button do different things depending on what looping mode you happen to bee in at the moment. Like, for example, if the loop is in Multiply Mode the button reacts as "Record" which means you cut the loop right away, un-quantized. But if the loop should be in Overdub Mode the same button would work as as a "Speed" button that lets you record octave jumps for any overdubbed audio input. Etc, etc... By scripting you can achieve almost anything you might envision. It seems the LP also offers some of this flexibility, as posted by Steve Lawson: > the beauty for me of the LP is that it's infinitely open-ended - > you can perceive the 8 tracks in any way you want - as layers, as > next loops, in groups of 2/3/4 etc. etc. lots of different ways, > all of which will affect the way you program the buttons. 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Get Hilary Duff’s homepage with her photos, music, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 16:52:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35E5A3BEE7; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <097701c73f0e$ee086c90$5fb0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <02c101c73866$f5bfdd00$43b1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45AB1352.5030405@infinivert.com> Subject: Re: New CD Release: "Fragments" Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:52:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0974_01C73ED4.408BC880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:52:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0974_01C73ED4.408BC880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Thanks for all the interest in my CD! Wow. I thought I would be a bit = more genereous than I had stated before. I'm sending free copies of this = CD to the names below (not including local folks). I have addresses for = those of you with an X after your name. I need addresses from the rest = of you. I am missing addresses from Mech, Clint Allen, MD, and Bryan = Phil. Thanks! Joshua Carrol - X Rick Hap - X Ted Killian - X Daryl Shawn - X Michael Peters - X Mech L.A. Angulo - X Andy Butler - X Clint Allen MD Weg - X Bryan Phil Fabio Anile - X Dean Hall - X Rick Hunt - X Duke Sexton - X Scott Hansen - X Kris Hello all, This new CD release is a collection of songs I have been sitting on = for some time, but just haven't had the chance to design the CD, package = them, and get it out. Here it is, at last...probably the last CD you'll = see from me for a while that isn't entirely off the deep end (next stop = is planet Mars). I'll send free copies out to the first five people who = reply to this email. Fragments is a collection of live electro-acoustic performances = recorded at public venues or via the Internet. This free improvisational = and avant-garde work exhibits a balance between the sound of the = acoustic guitar and electronic processing via the notebook computer and = various tone altering effects. Krispen Hartung - Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, = computer-based signal processing More info the CD, including MP3 Samples here: = http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm MP3 Samples The Human Static M=F8rk og Iser Attack of the Mini Tabla Groovy Space Faring Machine Ghost of Gigantor vs. the Savage Insectoid Moxie Nebula Cheers, Kris = *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0974_01C73ED4.408BC880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
Thanks for all the interest in my = CD! =20 Wow.  I thought I would be a bit more genereous than I had stated = before.=20 I'm sending free copies of this CD to the names below (not including = local=20 folks). I have addresses for those of you with an X after your name. I = need=20 addresses from the rest of you. I am missing addresses from Mech, Clint = Allen,=20 MD, and Bryan Phil. Thanks!
 
Joshua Carrol - X
Rick Hap - X
Ted Killian - X
Daryl Shawn - X
Michael Peters - X
Mech
L.A. Angulo - X
Andy Butler - X
Clint Allen
MD
Weg - X
Bryan Phil
Fabio Anile - X
Dean Hall - X
Rick Hunt - X
Duke Sexton - X
Scott Hansen - X
 
Kris
 
 
Hello all,
 
This new CD release is a collection = of songs I=20 have been sitting on for some time, but just haven't had the chance = to=20 design the CD, package them, and get it out.  Here it = is, at=20 last...probably the last CD you'll see from me for a while that = isn't=20 entirely off the deep end (next stop is planet = Mars).  I'll send=20 free copies out to the first five people who reply to this=20 email.

Fragments is a = collection of live=20 electro-acoustic performances recorded at public venues or via the = Internet.=20 This free improvisational and avant-garde work exhibits = a balance=20 between the sound of the acoustic guitar and electronic processing = via the=20 notebook computer and various tone altering=20 effects.

Krispen = Hartung -=20 Guitar, real-time looping, voice, percussion, computer-based signal=20 processing

More info the CD, including MP3=20 Samples here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/fragments/index.htm
 

MP3 = Samples

The=20 Human Static
M=F8rk og=20 Iser
Attack of the Mini Tabla
Groovy=20 Space Faring Machine
Ghost=20 of Gigantor vs. the Savage
Insectoid Moxie
Nebula

 
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
****************************************************************= **********
Krispen=20 Hartung
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------=_NextPart_000_0974_01C73ED4.408BC880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 17:05:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B8823BEDF; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,226,1167638400"; d="scan'208,217"; a="191219665:sNHT28535570" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C73F10.B3317FB8" Subject: OT: AbletonLive + GR2 ? Kore? Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:05:35 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070123165259.E29253BEEA@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: AbletonLive + GR2 ? Kore? thread-index: Acc/DvocoyPXDQo6RdW0Ib3KO+1tyAAAPWmw From: "Veda, Qua" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2007 17:05:36.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[B34245C0:01C73F10] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:05:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C73F10.B3317FB8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm considering moving to MacPro Core2 system. Anyone using GuitarRig2 ? Kore? I'm thinking of hosting this on AbletonLive6. seems like the new MacPro would have enough power to run this s/w with multiple instances of synths, FX etc. If I don't move to MacPro right away, I may try using GR2 and maybe Kore on my PC/Sonar. I'd appreciate hearing your experience, esp. regarding ease of use, and sound quality. pro/con, recommendations =20 You may contact me off-List if you feel this is too off-topic. -Qua ------_=_NextPart_001_01C73F10.B3317FB8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: AbletonLive + GR2 ? Kore?

I'm considering = moving to MacPro Core2 system.   Anyone using GuitarRig2 = ?   Kore?       I'm thinking of = hosting this on AbletonLive6. seems like the new MacPro would have = enough power to run this s/w with multiple instances of synths, FX = etc.

If I don't move to = MacPro right away,  I may try using GR2 and maybe Kore on my = PC/Sonar.

I'd appreciate = hearing your experience, esp. regarding ease of use, and sound = quality.   pro/con, recommendations   

You may contact me = off-List if you feel this is too off-topic.
-Qua

------_=_NextPart_001_01C73F10.B3317FB8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 17:05:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F39BA3BEF4; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 488857223 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Wireless Headphones for studio use Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:05:41 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B94C@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Wireless Headphones for studio use Thread-Index: Acc/ELacbs2V9TR8TU+1VdQZ5Lh8jw== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2007 17:05:42.0255 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6D15FF0:01C73F10] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:05:43 +0000 (UTC) >>I have Shure E5s that I use on the train and I like them a lot. Is = the wireless monitor system by them going to make me happy? Anyone used = it?<< ah, for once, something I'm qualified to answer. I have shure earbuds too. not sure of the model but they were =A3200. I = use the yellow foam things with them, which last about 3 months of = normal-to-heavy use (MD walkman mostly). they shut out everything..... = that's how you know the foam things are no good any more, when noise = starts getting in. replacements in packs of a dozen are about =A310. = quality-wise, they are second only to my grado headphones, which I use = sparingly a) so I don't trash them with some beefy analogue synth = bassline & b) because they make you over-critical after a while. anyway. back to the question. I "discovered" the shures when artists started asking for them here, at = mtv hq in london, for in-ear monitoring during live performances. = obviously, some of them are on radios so that the artists can leap about = & stuff. as you might imagine, there's a lot of other radio chatter in a = tv studio, & a lot of metalwork about the place. the shure radio sets = work fine in this hostile environment. when I say fine, I mean good = enough for rich famous fussy people that you don't want to irritate. hth- duncan. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 18:17:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6257A3BEEA; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=vrV6CAUSiR7Q7JLyh0NwHTya2KPcB3rWkJrfQ46GFEXRTXPx+Cw+OAwHWuUxQR7yBNqAg0T5JFdVJyJDX/M1vysobCxl2vcC7BDMErSgysWSppmGZ7cHTPa/7cmpfBqeWX3FWLnbfK9xt3X3/BPJi4C8/fRPQGdcy/vnwuj92wc=; X-YMail-OSG: YtO7MZ8VM1kCAApnFl86IdgeK69c8BFhsQPds4.Vg6fsCoNw5ub8Mee1.lTD.TDF.MX7flzqMYpngBQ2o1qjmTyUfFdPDSKxTah6ccFXytIn1vC4XEw- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:17:35 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: Wireless Headphones for studio use To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B94C@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <662557.77878.qm@web81314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:17:37 +0000 (UTC) --- "Goddard, Duncan" wrote: > environment. when I say fine, I mean good enough for > rich famous fussy people that you don't want to > irritate. Thanks for the info. Sadly we got word that we didn't get that place anyway but if I ever gig out again they may just be the thing. Mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 18:22:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A3E73BEFA; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=MpwptGXHrGD2rnEXo4Dk7AXmbwNGcnK9L98BnM9ZyEOGgpVgHF2yPDwD2mSwh5DA+xwzjxsruBDS4isF+/JHjle4B/wz1UwbeF2bbUfuF2yXyAaJ736d6Sc2t2m4IxufIuPiOxZcuC66DjieoC+764FWWtODT4YlED34SdK9iBI=; X-YMail-OSG: PkZDA78VM1mNOOiKhDJcSynoNC_4IlBlVKmjw3GM1aaU1qWLtEQBnuGwY0QNBqW82.Zi_8xLjMAvPArEBGgTPFX.5WfuHwdxeauKvpujYs1a8PktVj4- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:22:13 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: OT: AbletonLive + GR2 ? Kore? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <169216.68857.qm@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:22:14 +0000 (UTC) I checked out the demo (as should you) and I found that while the tone was often good and there was some interesting patches, but the extra latency bugged me. Also, by the time you buy Guitar Rig (I think they're on v3 now) you could buy a Tonelab SE which I felt did sound a lot better. Mark --- "Veda, Qua" wrote: > I'm considering moving to MacPro Core2 system. > Anyone using GuitarRig2 > ? Kore? I'm thinking of hosting this on > AbletonLive6. seems like > the new MacPro would have enough power to run this > s/w with multiple > instances of synths, FX etc. > > If I don't move to MacPro right away, I may try > using GR2 and maybe > Kore on my PC/Sonar. > > I'd appreciate hearing your experience, esp. > regarding ease of use, and > sound quality. pro/con, recommendations > > You may contact me off-List if you feel this is too > off-topic. > -Qua > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 19:44:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 100563BEE8; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TgXVaHUzU4sv1OmlBagzgSzkar1ttHxy70yLQut1ErQul/m8IGySUaIMCqeuW77A8qZr6iNFG0LBx3nsYyIAEeXSLCs78xuX6HFgWdnrnswubrApHleOniAOGayXDA3PquRhTc3uEGI4GuKbOqnpknA4/enOSJA8ZvkT4LhOLtQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 99xb_XEVM1kX6K9VW3mwyj8zIhTVrb2P9Xk2j7ZcPmV.8V00CaiXk.PpzIs_BY4NDFPIj4Akd.0vdQWshniK0zgMag-- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:43:58 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: new delay pedal from Eventide To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <746284.19372.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:44:00 +0000 (UTC) It does say MIDI sync... but maybe not for the looper? There doesn't seem to be a MIDI in though. Weird. --- Charles Zwicky wrote: > According to the 'cut sheet' it features a12 second > looper... no > synch, no storage, no reverse, > > >Interesting to see Eventide come out with a line > (2) of stompboxes. > >TimeFactor appears to have a looper mode. > > > >http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2007/01/namm-eventide-time-factor-superhot.html > >http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.jsp?msgid=1169171234352 > >http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 19:56:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D16E3BEE8; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1169581686.45b66676deb0e@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:48:06 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new delay pedal from Eventide References: <746284.19372.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <746284.19372.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:56:08 +0000 (UTC) midi over usb... Quoting mark sottilaro : > It does say MIDI sync... but maybe not for the looper? > There doesn't seem to be a MIDI in though. Weird. > > > --- Charles Zwicky wrote: > > > According to the 'cut sheet' it features a12 second > > looper... no > > synch, no storage, no reverse, > > > > >Interesting to see Eventide come out with a line > > (2) of stompboxes. > > >TimeFactor appears to have a looper mode. > > > > > > >http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2007/01/namm-eventide-time-factor-superhot.html > > > >http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.jsp?msgid=1169171234352 > > >http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ > > > > > > -- > > ... > > http://www.zmix.net > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 19:56:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 456873BEFC; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070123195651.69222.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=bkTqsUDrub9kCNl4yb+kusMumcMoPxnJnBOmziBim+O+R6RRLgUTdgQjkpmbK7o/jzzAWAhW7irq3I1C+iN+hBFtjXwY2E741bpH4NmHBRfRWPyG6bmcO5qLYBFtZWzR5xS/oejMbolrrK74+GAjP9uAq9NyYOKsmD4Zsue7fGI=; X-YMail-OSG: Qpo9.L8VM1lrLLQP7mEvnDln61RhUZqEkoXhG9hPDB2_p2HMYug6iu78EpQpciDvCqP3E_kHjdFgfqXLpj4h_ggNKR1YohrNZwAdqZ.71lMC6whlCbk- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:56:51 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Stut-t-t-er effect To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <35A6E94D-4553-49CD-A646-795EE1EA4653@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Many moons ago I used to use an app called LiSa from Steim to do all sorts of cool stuttering. I had nightmares for months after the Danke Schoen remix I did with it: http://www.steim.org/steim/lisa.html --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 19 jan 2007, at 23.50, Veda, Qua wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't want to bother Rick at this time with this > question. > > On this audio clips, he has some great vocal > grooves going. I'm > > curious what devices are used to create the > 'stutter' in the sounds > > that give them a percussive, rhythmic quality. > Very inspiring > > work. Anyone know what h/w or s/w will create > this effect ? > Maybe, if you can specify what clip you mean by > "this audio clips". > > Also, I may want to try some vocal looping - > quasi beat boxing - > > to see what happens. What mics are recommended > for this application ? > > > That and a lot more you will find at > www.humanbeatbox.com. A great > resource! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! 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Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 22:09:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47E563BEFA; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RF8mx8HovWyAs6kRqJ4b1+lQpGzvAn/jze+BFPsnphzvRhasS6/P4cd4x6YsTnfwVifmA4CQH+YFRvfdXK8sQr3J5g1atMwsyxahFj/oIyW4tpY1PS00fB/rfszkxclu7+g8jq/CqQNHgKWkCy2cIF9VynoUjhMPrXikTEMOfys=; X-YMail-OSG: 9fOYyDUVM1lPTTabUBGe8CaI07TZeaVwOhLboReayOv3QhP.To8LlDFWn5LQ6B5Q3ZjrI38WHGl8JVoNBBPu2s_guaLVJ2v2Arm1AcXbxXB5zE0HM5xA1nqVoqY2HMO3Fpv.wp_pDUcLX.M- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.3 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.7 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:09:29 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Joyce Subject: Question about cotrolling EDP parameter presets with FCB1010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <553637.98804.qm@web52414.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi. I guess this question has been asked a million times before but I can't= find it by searching the archives.=0A=0AQ: How do you use the FCB1010 to i= mplement 'parameter preset' changes in the EDP ? The EDP manual says that p= rogram change commands are required to do this. =0A=0AI've just gotten to g= rips with setting midi note numbers on the fcb to control the usual EDP fun= ctions (thanks to a useful guide sent by Travis Hartnett), but I'm not sure= how to do program changes. Any advice please ?=0A=0AG=0A=0A=0A =0A________= ___________________________________________________________________________= _=0ALooking for earth-friendly autos? =0ABrowse Top Cars by "Green Rating" = at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.=0Ahttp://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 22:21:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEBF13BEF7; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:21:06 -0600 From: "Sandy Rowles" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Question about cotrolling EDP parameter presets with FCB1010 In-Reply-To: <553637.98804.qm@web52414.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_253628_18660282.1169590866467" References: <553637.98804.qm@web52414.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:21:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_253628_18660282.1169590866467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I CHANGE THE PARAMETERS WITH A MIDI NOTE COMMAND AS WELL. I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE NOTE NUMBER 36 ON YOUR FCB1010. AT LEAST IT IS WITH MINE. RECORD IS 38 , OVERDUB IS 39, AND SO ON. HOPE THAT WILL GET IT FOR YOU. SANDY R. On 1/23/07, Guy Joyce wrote: > > Hi. I guess this question has been asked a million times before but I > can't find it by searching the archives. > > Q: How do you use the FCB1010 to implement 'parameter preset' changes in > the EDP ? The EDP manual says that program change commands are required to > do this. > > I've just gotten to grips with setting midi note numbers on the fcb to > control the usual EDP functions (thanks to a useful guide sent by Travis > Hartnett), but I'm not sure how to do program changes. Any advice please ? > > G > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > ------=_Part_253628_18660282.1169590866467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I CHANGE THE PARAMETERS WITH A MIDI NOTE COMMAND AS WELL. I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE NOTE NUMBER 36 ON YOUR FCB1010. AT LEAST IT IS WITH MINE. RECORD IS 38 , OVERDUB IS 39, AND SO ON. HOPE THAT WILL GET IT FOR YOU.

                     SANDY R.

On 1/23/07, Guy Joyce <magneticdwarfreptile@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi. I guess this question has been asked a million times before but I can't find it by searching the archives.

Q: How do you use the FCB1010 to implement 'parameter preset' changes in the EDP ? The EDP manual says that program change commands are required to do this.

I've just gotten to grips with setting midi note numbers on the fcb to control the usual EDP functions (thanks to a useful guide sent by Travis Hartnett), but I'm not sure how to do program changes. Any advice please ?

G



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------=_Part_253628_18660282.1169590866467-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 22:22:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62FF33BF04; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pjdzorY9N9fdbMngyo0uAWaO106alCNxS/M4dFHDe9I65PTS6rnZ+v5ygiJESKK9hb/KjzQI6Brh8dPhYz0QbUZZwA0W+j9TYOhFerQMAWAIyvUcFyxHIMAQ61VhHsMcayKe1TdEP/fDhWC9POryl1tmZ4egD2HKSuk2w1Nd++o= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <553637.98804.qm@web52414.mail.yahoo.com> References: <553637.98804.qm@web52414.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1BCB4BE9-542C-4C9A-ABF0-C08C13527293@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Question about cotrolling EDP parameter presets with FCB1010 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:22:28 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3rNOQC.A.cQH.pqotFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:22:33 +0000 (UTC) On 23 jan 2007, at 23.09, Guy Joyce wrote: > Hi. I guess this question has been asked a million times before but > I can't find it by searching the archives. > > Q: How do you use the FCB1010 to implement 'parameter preset' > changes in the EDP ? The EDP manual says that program change > commands are required to do this. Correct. But the FCB1010 can well send MIDI program change. Over five different MIDI channels if you should need that some day. For now, just make sure you set your FCB to send the MIDI PC on the channel where the EDP is listening. > I've just gotten to grips with setting midi note numbers on the fcb > to control the usual EDP functions (thanks to a useful guide sent > by Travis Hartnett), but I'm not sure how to do program changes. > Any advice please ? It's too long to post on this list, but there's a good guide in the FCB manual. You will have to learn that anyway so why not start now? ;-)) http://www.behringer.com/_pdf/FCB1010_programming_ENG.pdf Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 22:39:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 957EE3BF02; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=A1+tV8yuJ6uUJGNAeSntFYolCf7Bxe+C41feW8sDule6jybvqCYLi5Ou3ZRm2iQCqKxrYLuiAZa+Ix9uF3HqSSzlYLAXBeBkL+aHe/YT9pMfzFDGvpuAmrCvfGkCv6C+TeGFn9txt0QV+jc6QLuLAu1rMM7T1EzMRS0cqVEKEPY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <213840.83386.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <213840.83386.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: More feedback... Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:39:33 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:39:40 +0000 (UTC) On 23 jan 2007, at 23.04, mark sottilaro wrote: > New from u-he. More fun than a barrel of DL-4s > http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2651.html Agree. I've loved More Feedback Machine from the first free beta version. I've mocked up similar patches on my fireworX box, with an expression pedal to morph the beat synced LFO speed for filter cutoff (rit <--> acc ). Can't get enough of that effect! Makes you feel like a 'copter pilot on acid ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 22:39:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CC843BF0C; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1169584712.45b67248ed579@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:38:32 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stut-t-t-er effect References: <20070123195651.69222.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20070123195651.69222.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:39:40 +0000 (UTC) I recall Rick talking about Tu2 (http://www.brambos.com/) on multiple, occassions.. and it's 'chopping' abilities. Here is a quote from him from a tribe.net posting: "It will take sound files and slice them into gateable slices that can be individually reversed, randomized, panned, distorted, verbed, frequency filtered and cutoof, flanged et. al. YOu can take any sound file and it suddenly is funky as hell. It also has incredible live applications as you can quickly make different versions of each slicing that can be muted on downbeats in real time." peace -cpr Quoting mark sottilaro : > Many moons ago I used to use an app called LiSa from > Steim to do all sorts of cool stuttering. I had > nightmares for months after the Danke Schoen remix I > did with it: > > http://www.steim.org/steim/lisa.html > > > --- Per Boysen wrote: > > > On 19 jan 2007, at 23.50, Veda, Qua wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I don't want to bother Rick at this time with this > > question. > > > On this audio clips, he has some great vocal > > grooves going. I'm > > > curious what devices are used to create the > > 'stutter' in the sounds > > > that give them a percussive, rhythmic quality. > > Very inspiring > > > work. Anyone know what h/w or s/w will create > > this effect ? > > Maybe, if you can specify what clip you mean by > > "this audio clips". > > > Also, I may want to try some vocal looping - > > quasi beat boxing - > > > to see what happens. What mics are recommended > > for this application ? > > > > > That and a lot more you will find at > > www.humanbeatbox.com. A great > > resource! > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 23:17:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E20A3BEDC; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <0C86A32C-4C46-4938-8169-01691725DBA7@fuse.net> References: <0C86A32C-4C46-4938-8169-01691725DBA7@fuse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <72FEF0AD-6025-481F-85BF-06857A12EA18@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: how i'm looping these days Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:10:22 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: e771bf91-ab36-11db-8638-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtfYVU0Dlt1 UkhJRUJQFw9pARYD BVAWVAdzdQxYeXl0 e0RnXm9ZWUZ/akYz Hk4qaxx4IAJgaGQc VUAWdAdSdE0feRhE OAZ2VW5cM2YBe3th EwV2b25qbXAHcH0M ElwBdg1NSk8dJDNu DxAFAn0uUkhNQyI0 Nx0gJRYAHEsKPw0+ OEo6MWVf X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:536/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:17:05 +0000 (UTC) sometimes yes, sometimes no. i turn it on when i need it. On Jan 22, 2007, at 9:18 PM, monk wrote: > yeah, but are you getting a click or metronome from ableton? > > > On Jan 22, 2007, at 4:00 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > >> ok, FINALLY i am in one place long enough to write this email. i'm >> in london, where it is COLD. >> >> i think fabio asked how i am looping 12 tracks with minimal foot >> swtiching. >> >> so... >> >> dummy clips in ableton live >> >> the setup goes like this: >> >> - my foot taps a button on the FCB1010 >> - the FCB1010 sends PC messages to Ableton >> - PC messages launch clips or scenes or a sequence of clips >> - some of the clips are midi clips containing notes >> - midi notes are translated in midipipe and sent back to >> Repeater1, Repeater2, and Ableton* >> - these midi clips work like sequencers, sending batches of timed >> commands to the Repeaters (record, stop record, next track, >> record, pan, mute, etc) >> - some of the clips are blank audio clips >> - the blank audio clips contain envelope information for the audio >> coming in from Repeater1 and Repeater2 (like an automated mixer. >> for example to fade out the audio of a Repeater) >> >> Sounds complicated, but its actually very simple. whereas before >> every button of the FCB1010 controlled a single function of a >> Repeater, now i have a button to do the batches of things I tend >> to do, but i only have to press the button once. >> >> Snags: >> >> - Repeaters can't deal with midi messages fired at them in close >> succession. i have to space things out so no messages are sent >> simultaneously, however, with clever spacing of the sequenced >> events, it "seems" simultaneous. >> - I think it might be my midi interfaces (emagic) but sometimes >> notes are dropped. i can still "take control" of the repeater at >> any time when an error occurs though by using the same old banks I >> always used on the FCB1010. >> >> anyway, that's the long and short of it. its been pretty >> revolutionary for me because i can spend more time playing the >> cello and less time worrying about hitting the right sequence of >> footswitches. >> >> my time is about to run out on this internet access (so expensive >> over here!!) or i would write more. >> ask questions if you have them. >> >> >> >> *Note about Abletone: my intention was to use the Looperlative for >> the extra 4 loops, but I had some difficulties using the unit and >> found it quicker to program Ableton. also, since i have to travel >> pretty far and wanted all my gear to fit in a 5 space rack, i >> decided to lose the Looperlative and use the computer (have my >> motu and power supply in the 5th space). this is not to say i >> won't use the Looperlative later, i just ran out of time and had >> to move on to a tool i was more familiar with. >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 23 23:25:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1B9E3BEEC; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Ryman1960@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:25:45 EST Subject: Re: usb turntable To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1169594745" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 1201 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:25:55 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1169594745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is great info., thank you. I just heard about this on this past weekend with a friend that got me into the NAMM show. Kenny -------------------------------1169594745 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is great info., thank you.
 
I just heard about this on this past weekend with a friend that got me=20= into=20 the NAMM show.
 
Kenny
 
-------------------------------1169594745-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 00:20:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E70C3BEE2; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=qGnsoEzCGIffn/bTYMPtA1KW/5Ep5v1lYMfnKx+ncocb8r0TB6j5mUtnPSxrrgpldz6BNCQzJR+koDd0p/FfXtDglvwXgraUMclQP36RbOWKSLr0kGMWk2pEKT2mQS+cBFT+gMe3Ol18Vge5433Cr4rqxRGOhzJPy0YOmxXDVNA=; X-YMail-OSG: dr4zsMkVM1kDambHzG3hUaIVL6JU_sbDsNKwczbN9vLi45R7MHftcEsf1qj6fJROLg-- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:20:00 -0800 (PST) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: new delay pedal from Eventide To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <746284.19372.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <311995.26096.qm@web34808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:20:02 +0000 (UTC) I think the midi connection is on the side of the box. --- mark sottilaro wrote: > It does say MIDI sync... but maybe not for the > looper? > There doesn't seem to be a MIDI in though. 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Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 00:50:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCA803BEF6; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" , Subject: 01.30.07 @ the PiNG > WALLY JERICHO + URM Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:04:16 -0500 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000201c73c50$6fd72750$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:50:36 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 01.30.07 . 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 01:11:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 046923BEF8; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003001c73f54$963ad7f0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: usb turntable Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:11:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C73F54.95727EE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:11:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C73F54.95727EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having a few pals my age who have piles of vinyl - and one who swears by = tubes - this will be a little news to them. However the two most = important items to me re: turntables seem to be missing from the models = in the article: not a thing about the units' rumble / s/n. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ryman1960@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 23:25 PM Subject: Re: usb turntable This is great info., thank you. I just heard about this on this past weekend with a friend that got me = into the NAMM show. Kenny ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C73F54.95727EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Having a few pals my age who have piles of vinyl - and one who = swears by=20 tubes - this will be a little news to them.  However the two most = important=20 items to me re: turntables seem to be missing from the models in the = article:=20 not a thing about the units' rumble / s/n.
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This is great info., thank you.
 
I just heard about this on this past weekend with a friend that = got me=20 into the NAMM show.
 
Kenny
 
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C73F54.95727EE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 05:13:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0F893BEF8; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=m0EPlueFV51rplWJTpKLqGdv55bjYWTYcyKvGYuDsOKxkXzcUXfYPhynMpsYRXarpS2XK358useB8IQcFzLWrRcoINiTp71DMCnCXWmZGZIOtqJg8u5Qh5/PJAes6Ikc5DfN4MsOZPocotYwE3+pb6atautoaGHYavspMHXW1vg=; X-YMail-OSG: cvsf6fUVM1kCOXrLwuTJT4isWHkqRu1GRhpl239pS1qazbR.pBRLhXiDy9.b8Msf58oytB9DppdBb4Jfeifld0HBJQ-- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:13:18 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: FCB1010 UnO Firmware To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <21DAA69F-7C6F-4056-9C72-8E99E08AA977@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <279244.2730.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Hey Per, link didnt work but i finally found the specs thanx anyway man! cheers luis --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 22 jan 2007, at 23.28, L.A. Angulo wrote: > > > thinking about upgrading anybody here using this > > latest software for the FCB1010?worth getting and > > happy with it? > > The spec's are published at > http://www.mtnsys.com/faq-fcb/UnO% > 20Firmware.htm. I read through that page and did not > find that UnO > would add anything I need for my recent looping > activities. I'm on my > second FCB1010 now, the first one lasted four years. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 08:39:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AE2E3BEDD; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=lJY+CX4drHTSd3dlXX6ORLEV+Jq/3/ovUJtwBeU45/mza1E+lQQV5bzdgCluvL+aLavqB88Ow97n2owhpLQ5EFs2f7Q8Uw2SqD8nZzvTpPLDbDuKsdj4xGWR/CjrhuZJr3iA+cZWwXMaFWb6AC7aUGSF4p0071udxIO+S7GKc8A= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <279244.2730.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <279244.2730.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <43BFD5D2-3C26-4B75-A67E-1C2932A339D8@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: FCB1010 UnO Firmware Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:39:07 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <2jSyGC.A.P_B.wsxtFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:39:12 +0000 (UTC) > --- Per Boysen wrote: >> On 22 jan 2007, at 23.28, L.A. Angulo wrote: >> >> The spec's are published at >> http://www.mtnsys.com/faq-fcb/UnO% >> 20Firmware.htm. I read through that page and did not On 24 jan 2007, at 06.13, L.A. Angulo wrote: > link didnt work but i finally found the specs > thanx anyway man! If you look at the link above you can see that it has been truncated to run over two lines. That often happens to links posted at mailing lists, so it might be good to know how to deal with it ;-)) What you should do when that happens is to copy and paste (1) the first line of the link and (2) the second line of the link into the address field of your web browser. Then press Return and the web link will work. In this particular case there is a "%" character in the URL. This should be kept because, even if it wasn't there in the original code on the server, it is automatically added by the web server application since the web designer used an empty space in the file name. It just lame old Behringer letting clumsy amateurs make their web pages!!! ;-)) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 08:49:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 597AA3BEDC; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: 24 Jan 2007 09:49:39 +0100 Message-ID: <42193.62.2.75.66.1169628579.squirrel@webmail.perspectix.com> From: "Bernhard Wagner" Reply-To: loopdelightml@xmlizer.biz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <43BFD5D2-3C26-4B75-A67E-1C2932A339D8@gmail.com> References: <279244.2730.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43BFD5D2-3C26-4B75-A67E-1C2932A339D8@gmail.com> Subject: tinyurl (was: Re: FCB1010 UnO Firmware) User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:49:43 +0000 (UTC) >> --- Per Boysen wrote: > > If you look at the link above you can see that it has been truncated > to run over two lines. That often happens to links posted at mailing > lists, so it might be good to know how to deal with it ;-)) What you > should do when that happens is to copy and paste (1) the first line > of the link and (2) the second line of the link into the address > field of your web browser. Then press Return and the web link will work. > > In this particular case there is a "%" character in the URL. This > should be kept because, even if it wasn't there in the original code > on the server, it is automatically added by the web server > application since the web designer used an empty space in the file > name. It just lame old Behringer letting clumsy amateurs make their > web pages!!! ;-)) > or use tinyurl.com to shorten long urls before posting them (see http://tinyurl.com/32gl6w) Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 14:32:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96C3F3BEF1; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:in-reply-to:thread-index:message-id; b=HKBH9PhYxz8W863v/FKnQZsPyB2DVsCfygue/T/dx9M9O3YrQKNSv6xcJqWwHxgBBtpKiq2GQ981gP63Ducq0gJzs0/3QTDd5ZMFKm9tOcGmMASYxEWqoy7o22xPtW4B087N5cSwDEkPBdmLdUc+EU+sJkFL/ObgM/24fXVZsAI= Reply-To: From: "Miles Ward" To: Subject: RE: AbletonLive + GR2 ? Kore? Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:32:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0158_01C73F81.75B648C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acc/DvocoyPXDQo6RdW0Ib3KO+1tyAAAPWmwAC0XX4A= Message-ID: <45b76e01.315aa640.0f75.ffff9747@mx.google.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1icx3C.A.74E.E42tFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:32:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C73F81.75B648C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm considering exactly the same setup, only with a macbook. I'm using an external m-audio fast track pro so I can get 24 bit, but other than that, all my "testing" (pilfering friends machines for the weekends) has been all super good. Mine is coming in the mail, I'll let you know how it goes. _____ From: Veda, Qua [mailto:qua.veda@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:06 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: AbletonLive + GR2 ? Kore? I'm considering moving to MacPro Core2 system. Anyone using GuitarRig2 ? Kore? I'm thinking of hosting this on AbletonLive6. seems like the new MacPro would have enough power to run this s/w with multiple instances of synths, FX etc. If I don't move to MacPro right away, I may try using GR2 and maybe Kore on my PC/Sonar. I'd appreciate hearing your experience, esp. regarding ease of use, and sound quality. pro/con, recommendations You may contact me off-List if you feel this is too off-topic. -Qua ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C73F81.75B648C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: AbletonLive + GR2 ? Kore?

I’m considering exactly the = same setup, only with a macbook.  I’m using an external m-audio = fast track pro so I can get 24 bit, but other than that, all my = “testing” (pilfering friends machines for the weekends) has been all super = good.  Mine is coming in the mail, I’ll let you know how it = goes.

 


From: Veda, = Qua [mailto:qua.veda@intel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January = 23, 2007 9:06 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: AbletonLive = + GR2 ? Kore?

 

I'm considering moving to MacPro Core2 = system.   Anyone using GuitarRig2 ?   = Kore?       I'm thinking of hosting this on AbletonLive6. seems like the new MacPro = would have enough power to run this s/w with multiple instances of synths, FX = etc.

If I don't move to MacPro right away,  I may try = using GR2 and maybe Kore on my PC/Sonar.

I'd appreciate hearing your experience, esp. regarding = ease of use, and sound quality.   pro/con, recommendations   

You may contact me off-List if you feel this is too off-topic.
-Qua

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 18:05:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03F053BEF5; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: fabio anile Reply-To: fabio anile To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: how i'm looping these days Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:05:14 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for your description, Zoe. It's interesting the hibryd set-up you're using. After reading your first post, i was thinking that you were using Mobius... As you may know, Mobius can manage 12 or more stereo looping tracks and has a function scripts feature that permits you to assign several midi functions to a single fcb1010 button. You can get a powerfull looping set up just using a laptop. Have you tested it ? Good luck for your european tour ! fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo www.myspace.com.eterogeneo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 20:30:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 767FD3BEE6; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070124143038.i7wh6wghwk4c8wcw@69.89.21.76> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:30:38 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RC-50 issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: <9c5h4B.A.HxC.wH8tFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Hello to all, In setting up the RC-50, I encountered a couple of issues and a quick =20 internet search revealed that they have been discussed before: 1) when switching from record to overdub the track is muted for the =20 first 1/2 second 2) when attempting to sync the RC-50 from an external device the =20 playback is distorted (as if the clock signal is somehow interfering =20 with the playback). The first problem is a pain however I've developed some work-arounds =20 (I compose my own music, so I can simply consider the issue when =20 working things out.) The second problem, though -- has me scratching my head and could be a =20 show-stopper. What I want to do is to record my accompaniments on my =20 synths, play them back via Cubase, and sync the RC-50's tempo to the =20 computer. My lead instrument is an Etherwave Pro Theremin and I wish =20 to build loops in real-time along with the accompianment tracks. My real concern is the syncing issue -- has anyone found a solution to =20 this? In scouring the web I found little on the sync issue with the =20 notion that some people have had problems with it and others have =20 managed to make it work. However, I can't find out how folks went =20 about troubleshooting and fixing this problem. One detail about the loop station is that, when it is syncing from an =20 external source, it apparently puts the tracks into quantize mode. My =20 test case happened to be a loop that was recorded without =20 quantization. I am wondering if that is causing a problem and when I =20 get home I will try it. I really like the RC-50 although I really wish I could control all of =20 its functions from a computer at once. From what I am reading, it =20 appears that I can choose up to three functions that I can control at =20 any given time -- and this is kind of a bummer. I am also planning to take a look at the Mobius VST plugin -- perhaps =20 that would be a better solution for what I am trying to do. Though... =20 I prefer to spread out processing across hardware devices rather than =20 bog down the laptop computer. (that is, I don't have a seperate =20 computer that I can dedicate to Mobius and I'd have to use it as a VST =20 plugin). To summarize my questions: 1) Has a fix come out to solve the record-to-overdub glitch? 2) Is there a solution to the "garbled" sound that occurs when syncing =20 to an external clock? 3) How would Mobius work as a VST plugin with Cubase SX3? Is this a =20 possibility for live performance? I am pretty good with "tech speak" so feel free to answer these =20 questions and if I don't understand what you are saying, I'll look it =20 up or ask you to clarify. I am new to looping and new to this list. Your posts have been =20 extremely valuable to me. As a result I am learning about looping much =20 faster than if I'd 'gone it alone'. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 20:43:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C41513BEF4; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070124143038.i7wh6wghwk4c8wcw@69.89.21.76> References: <20070124143038.i7wh6wghwk4c8wcw@69.89.21.76> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:37:26 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: RC-50 issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:43:22 +0000 (UTC) At 2:30 PM -0600 1/24/07, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: >Hello to all, > >In setting up the RC-50, I encountered a couple of issues and a >quick internet search revealed that they have been discussed before: > >1) when switching from record to overdub the track is muted for the >first 1/2 second That is the problem that has kept me from buying one. I thought this was addressed in the recent software rev? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 20:48:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FD703BEF8; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: RC-50 issues Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:48:23 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c73ff9$00734770$020313ac@SOVERGAAUW> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acc/+EqjjVkuA3uLQ6KEEP8jHepzmAAAECwg Importance: Normal X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: guri 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:48:41 +0000 (UTC) >1) when switching from record to overdub the track is muted for the >first 1/2 second >That is the problem that has kept me from buying one. I thought this >>was addressed in the recent software rev? Yes, It's fixed in 1.01 http://www.rolandus.com/uploads/CMS/Downloads/1933/RC50_v101.zip Sjaak From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 21:02:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3E4A3BEE2; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:02:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 416085244 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: usb turntable Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:01:59 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B968@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: usb turntable Thread-Index: Acc/+uNWxln5d7EoRUKHlVg4rBi4Vg== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2007 21:01:59.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[E38003E0:01C73FFA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:02:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Having a few pals my age who have piles of vinyl - and one who = swears by tubes - this will be a little news to them. However the two = most important items to me re: turntables seem to be missing from the = models in the article: not a thing about the units' rumble / s/n. << agreed. I've done a lot of vinyl transcription lately- 78s, the lot. I = do a great deal of work to make the stuff sound like it ought to- a = little eq, a fair bit of de-clicking, but trying all the while to = preserve the original spirit of the vinyl experience.=20 then I re-format the artwork, wherever possible, to fit a jewel case or = a small polythene sleeve (to mimic the original LP sleeve). really I = should be doing it for a living, but these usb toys are going to put an = end to that. hmph. I reckon that if you're going to give that precious artifact one last = spin before it goes on ebay or into a landfill hole, it deserves better = than a cheap piece of crap like this. better to spend a few bucks at the = local "proper" hifi store..... most big towns have one, if you know = where to look; if there's an amp/synth tech in your local guitar shop, = chances are he moonlights fixing stereos too.=20 get a decent turntable & pre-amp for a few hundred bucks, then sell it = again when you're finished. it doesn't need to be "audiophile".... you = don't need gold-plated mcintosh monoblocks with NOS cold war tubes in = them, just something that wasn't injection-molded into it's own = packaging five minutes ago in a hurry by a factory that also makes = picnic cutlery. better still- buy a proper turntable & pre-amp, & keep the records. = what? you need the space? tcha. find something less important to get = rid of, like the tv. you're a musician, remember? I'd like to know how many folks have bought one of these usb turntable = efforts who have also, at some time in the past, complained about = effects pedals that "suck tone" or don't have "true bypass". just = wondering..... I've had the vinyl vs CD debate more times than I've seen "blade = runner", so that's a lot. :-)=20 for me, vinyl is a never-twice-the-same experience, because of it's = mechanical nature & inherent flaws. that's what makes it interesting. = the same thing makes CD's a bit lifeless- limited bandwidth, phase = errors & audio fingerprinting- they are the same every time you play = them & subconsciously, you get accustomed to them very quickly. how many = times have you replaced a proper record with it's CD reissue & then only = played it once or twice? call me sentimental & old-fashioned...... [ducks] d. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 24 22:38:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A11A3BEE2; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UJNcd91yegD9dDSdKs6npZTxzlLd35o+92JkKVtpLrzcP5QR4sU3/QoITIBkmqswSNQINWmmS4gbEqYqkPaRteEaSszChgqwsqmX6SgHaJdtaZHkZWfe9Fc3+SQ/eYF/vAcDcZD5Hyn+zxzB1LUhbS7eUrBUQ9l1+b8h9VbZJWI= ; Message-ID: <20070124223851.8026.qmail@web27714.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _BPvCpQVM1lD_BCKFgDeYZ4g78tvfiiYQpyQVqTLvHcijvdDV4Diq2869KnDYmD6_5hdKVp08KbB53AWGhPDvuP5xf79unlHZnUwj732DCS5ntgkUhk- Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:38:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Tony Douglas Subject: RE: usb turntable To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B968@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:38:53 +0000 (UTC) --- "Goddard, Duncan" wrote: > for me, vinyl is a never-twice-the-same experience, > because of it's mechanical nature & inherent flaws. > that's what makes it interesting ... how many times have > you replaced a proper record with it's CD reissue & > then only played it once or twice? For me, it was a bit different. I had a vinyl copy of Neil Young's Decade that felt like the vinyl was about 2 inches thick, which had been left next to a radiator and had a huge warp in it. I had a turntable with a needle like a cat's claw. And it sounded *fantastic*. I made a tape recording of that combination and kept it for years, until it got lost in a move. The CD just sounds pale and lifeless in comparison. > call me sentimental & old-fashioned...... [ducks] OK - you're sentimental and old-fashioned ;-) By the way - did anyone at NAMM get a shot with the VG-99 ? Any thoughts ? Please somebody tell me something bad about it so I can stop drooling :) - Tony ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 25 05:00:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A57C23BEF1; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <619228.38945.qm@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <619228.38945.qm@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-267990363 Message-Id: <71270664-23E5-4648-A897-E6A45D88A13E@finleysound.com> Cc: scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: cd trade: transition Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:00:34 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:00:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-267990363 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Scott, Count me in. Matt McCabe 18904 Moon Ridge Rd Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467 Send your address and I'll drop my latest CD in the mail to you. Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 19, 2007, at 2:52 PM, scott hansen wrote: > hi, finished some recent recordings that i decided to call > "Transition" due to gear > changes and all... > so decided to offer it up as a cd trade for anyone interested... > > recordings are my 1st attempts w/ my boss dd-20, using guitar (my > modified headless > beast w/ feedback microphone), keyboards (for sounds/noises) and > radio (my john cage influences)..... > thought the stuff sounded decent since i hadn't recorded anything > since oct, recordings were done during dec 06-jan 07..... > working on making cover/package this weekend......and assembling... > if interested, please send your snail mail address to: > scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu (put "cd trade: transition" in subject).... > > i like hearing what other folks do out there (on cd) b/c i don't > sit at a computer much and listen to music..... > thanks, happy looping.... > s---- > > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. --Apple-Mail-1-267990363 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Scott,

Count me = in.=A0=A0

Matt = McCabe
18904 Moon Ridge Rd
Hidden Valley Lake, CA=A0 = 95467

Send = your address and I'll drop my latest CD in the mail to = you.

Matt

---

King Never

http://www.kingnever.com

=

On Jan 19, 2007, at 2:52 PM, scott hansen = wrote:

hi, finished some recent recordings that i decided to = call "Transition" due to gear
changes and all...
=
so decided to offer it up as a cd trade for anyone = interested...
=A0
recordings are my 1st attempts = w/ my boss dd-20, using guitar (my modified headless
beast = w/ feedback microphone), keyboards (for sounds/noises) and radio (my = john cage influences).....
thought the stuff sounded decent = since i hadn't recorded anything since oct, recordings were done during = dec 06-jan 07.....
working on making cover/package this = weekend......and assembling...
if interested, please send = your snail mail address to:
scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu = (put "cd trade: transition" in subject)....
=A0
=
i like hearing what other folks do out there (on cd) b/c i don't = sit at a computer much and listen to music.....
thanks, = happy looping....
s----


Get your own web address.
Have a HUGE = year through Yahoo! Small = Business.

= --Apple-Mail-1-267990363-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 25 05:05:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9298B3BEF5; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: emilet@pop.rcn.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:55:11 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance Hyde park, MA Saturday 01.27 Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A09020A.45B83A8E.00E1,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.125/2006-10-10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing video with my old friend (and Immersions collaborator) Bob McCloskey's jazz band at a party in Hyde Park on this Saturday. Hope you can check it out. COME JOIN THE BAND FOR MID-WINTER PARTY J P JAZZ COLLECTIVE Allan Walkey-Alto Tim Weed -Violin Bob McCloskey-Tenor Jay Geyer-Guitar Tim Whelen-Bass Tom Goodkind-Drums At the Hyde Park Eagle's Hall.Corner of Hyde Park Ave and Dana Ave Cleary Sq. Hyde Park JAN 27 7:00 to 11:30p.m $5 cover Cash Bar Life Is A Cabaret -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 25 05:06:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F7863BEEE; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:06:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <71270664-23E5-4648-A897-E6A45D88A13E@finleysound.com> References: <619228.38945.qm@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <71270664-23E5-4648-A897-E6A45D88A13E@finleysound.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-268327486 Message-Id: From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: cd trade: transition Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:06:12 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:06:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-268327486 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed And my social security number is.... Yes, I'm an idiot. I hope all you cyber-stalkers aren't paying attention. --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 24, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Matthew F. McCabe wrote: > Scott, > > Count me in. > > Matt McCabe > 18904 Moon Ridge Rd > Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467 > > Send your address and I'll drop my latest CD in the mail to you. > > Matt > > --- > King Never > http://www.kingnever.com > > On Jan 19, 2007, at 2:52 PM, scott hansen wrote: > >> hi, finished some recent recordings that i decided to call >> "Transition" due to gear >> changes and all... >> so decided to offer it up as a cd trade for anyone interested... >> >> recordings are my 1st attempts w/ my boss dd-20, using guitar (my >> modified headless >> beast w/ feedback microphone), keyboards (for sounds/noises) and >> radio (my john cage influences)..... >> thought the stuff sounded decent since i hadn't recorded anything >> since oct, recordings were done during dec 06-jan 07..... >> working on making cover/package this weekend......and assembling... >> if interested, please send your snail mail address to: >> scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu (put "cd trade: transition" in subject).... >> >> i like hearing what other folks do out there (on cd) b/c i don't >> sit at a computer much and listen to music..... >> thanks, happy looping.... >> s---- >> >> Get your own web address. >> Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > --Apple-Mail-2-268327486 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
And my social security = number is....

Yes, = I'm an idiot.=A0 I hope all you cyber-stalkers aren't paying = attention.

---

King Never

http://www.kingnever.com

=

On Jan 24, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Matthew F. McCabe = wrote:

Scott,

Count me = in.=A0=A0

Matt = McCabe
18904 Moon Ridge Rd
Hidden Valley Lake, CA=A0 = 95467

Send = your address and I'll drop my latest CD in the mail to = you.

Matt

---
King = Never

On Jan 19, 2007, at 2:52 PM, scott hansen = wrote:

hi, finished some recent recordings that i decided to = call "Transition" due to gear
changes and all...
=
so decided to offer it up as a cd trade for anyone = interested...
=A0
recordings are my 1st attempts = w/ my boss dd-20, using guitar (my modified headless
beast = w/ feedback microphone), keyboards (for sounds/noises) and radio (my = john cage influences).....
thought the stuff sounded decent = since i hadn't recorded anything since oct, recordings were done during = dec 06-jan 07.....
working on making cover/package this = weekend......and assembling...
if interested, please send = your snail mail address to:
scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu = (put "cd trade: transition" in subject)....
=A0
=
i like hearing what other folks do out there (on cd) b/c i don't = sit at a computer much and listen to music.....
thanks, = happy looping....
s----


Get your own web address.
Have a HUGE = year through Yahoo! Small = Business.


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 25 11:21:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCA313BEE6; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:20:40 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45B89288.1000707@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:21:34 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on EM pioneer Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disc two from "Cyborg" on Revisited Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#jan The Vinyl Starter will come from the LP "Caution" by Pure Gamma on Defective Records and released in 1994. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and on the internet. THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, January 27 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh All times are EST / GMT-5. ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 25 11:22:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E490F3BEF5; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <021601c74072$fa300950$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <86375974707beee2a6da4665d92d9534@charter.net> Subject: Re: CT-GREAT SPEECHES IS OUT ! Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:21:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2007 11:21:39.0334 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB811A60:01C74072] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for your feedback, Ted. Best fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® kiLLiAn" To: "fabio anile" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:57 PM Subject: Re: CT-GREAT SPEECHES IS OUT ! Fabio, I listened to this project a number of times through the other day and really enjoyed it! Best regards, Ted Killian On Jan 20, 2007, at 11:47 PM, fabio anile wrote: > > Hi people, I' m proud to announce that the CT-GREAT SPEECHES project is > now > online and free to download. > Thanks to all members, for theyr creativity, patience and ispiration. > > Here's is the link: > http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=24 > and - for those of you who are interested - a "Listening guide" to the > project. > As usual, comments are welcome. > > > Fabio > http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > > > > Listening guide to the CT-Great Speech project > > The aim of this project is to compose a music to "furnish" a famous > speech. > A "great speech" is a speech that has a relevant historical, religious, > political, or social content. > > First time I started to think at this project was when I worked on a film > about the Apollo 11 moon landing. The interesting part of that work was to > think to the speech as a part of the music, the leading part. Nothing new > compared to My life in a bush of ghost (Brian Eno - David Byrne, 1981), > but it was new for me experimenting the Eno-Byrne creative process. > I started to work on other speeches and when I realized that it would take > most part of the time iâ?Tve to spend in music, I open it to the > CT-Collective. > > I'm now proud to announce the publishing of the CT-Great Speeches project, > my first experience as a CT-Collective project coordinator. > This was an amazing experience for many reasons: different musical > approaches and speeches choosen by the members, different ways of working > on the samples and many contacts with skilled musicians, from all around > the world. > > It's interesting notate that some members have choosen speeches regarding > similar events or content: 2nd world war, missions in space and > spirituality are three recourring themes in this CD. > That inspired me to create a playlist accordingly to these three themes > and > here's how it works. > The CD starts with a great dense, obscure and emotional atmosphere, where > you can hear the famous W. Churchillâ?Ts one-line quote, "we'll fight 'em > on > the beaches" (1). Next songs contain the tone colored declaration of war > (2) by the italian dictator B. Mussolini, in a crescendo rock track. It's > interesting notice that both songs end with a sample (birds in the 1st, a > child crying in th 2nd) that introduce a reality context. > The third song contains a Michael Moore speech, about the U.S. President > G. > Bush feeling like God (3); M. Frank had built a very rithmic and > straordinarly accessible track. > The Meaning of God is the original title of the speech held by M. Gandhi > that appears, after an ethereal looping textures, in Misterious Power (4), > the song i composed for this project. > As it was the dark side compared to the Gandhi message, follows the > intense > composition by Mike Fazio, about the The Jim Jones Jonestown Cult Suicide > Speech (5). > Moon 1969 (6) opens the edge of space missions. Just announced, like in > the > JFK speech, altered by Michael Peters in an onomatopoeic way, as it seems > that youâ?Tre starting to fly ; or followed step by step, with an ear to > the > President R. Reagan announcing the mission and an ear to a radio station > that was broadcasting in real time the Challenger Tragedy (7), like in the > obscure ambient song composed by Milco Montagna. > Spirit and science converge in a unique element in the A. Hofman speech > choosen by Anders Ostberg for his drone track, about a new natural wiev of > life (8). > Artificious is the starting point for the (impossible) 17 U.S. Presidents > conference (9) Norelpref created. As an answer to all that politics > talking, iâ?Tve put Now is the time (10) contains a part of the famous > Iâ?Tve a > dream speech held by M. L. King in Washington in 1963 (10). I compose it > before starting the CT project, and even if iâ?Tve encouraged the members > to > take in account this speech, noone used it. So i put it here, thinking it > could be a good final song. > At the end, i feel it was an interesting experience where all members work > hard to get the best idea, or musical and technical approach and > inspiration. > > Thanks to you all for your work, collaboration and patience, iâ?Tll hope > it > will be a second CT-Great Speeches project to follow. > Fabio Anile > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/644 - Release Date: 22/01/2007 7.30 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 25 12:22:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08D873BEEC; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=NzQi3u8sCotG+5/1J7eC9zGzXxrMpUkdmZc0axruSonqHcloNbHJ4nwYm8bR+Zdutu84tEm1ZbGsJB80TJFwX9qoUZx3AO/QY/S6zjYXBst61pZ7nZNERt1zwJZF2iTnX/iPMNVZzt7uTDNZKMr2UF8eTF0F2vy2MZKMgGYo+OA=; X-YMail-OSG: ZpHJkMAVM1mJcVfHc552dpdZtsa4JORVIrIHlaf9JM2VxJyNVT2ArREF5WoRl43Rd_InYeAQS_CVvx_OhNHcG8oQlDeurJzdJoW56mVOsSwAGuwOD1WmkNzJO3vRA8Mn4uLB.GxZ_4tD Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:22:30 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: CT-GREAT SPEECHES IS OUT ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <021601c74072$fa300950$e701a8c0@pcfabio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <203264.99803.qm@web26205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I liked this. Interesting project! Best regards Rune Fagereng --- Fabio Anile skrev: > Thanks for your feedback, Ted. > Best > > fabio > http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tEd ® kiLLiAn" > To: "fabio anile" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: CT-GREAT SPEECHES IS OUT ! > > > Fabio, > > I listened to this project a number of times through > the other day and > really enjoyed it! > > Best regards, > > Ted Killian > > On Jan 20, 2007, at 11:47 PM, fabio anile wrote: > > > > > Hi people, I' m proud to announce that the > CT-GREAT SPEECHES project is > > now > > online and free to download. > > Thanks to all members, for theyr creativity, > patience and ispiration. > > > > Here's is the link: > > > http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=24 > > and - for those of you who are interested - a > "Listening guide" to the > > project. > > As usual, comments are welcome. > > > > > > Fabio > > http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ > > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > > > > > > > > Listening guide to the CT-Great Speech project > > > > The aim of this project is to compose a music to > "furnish" a famous > > speech. > > A "great speech" is a speech that has a relevant > historical, religious, > > political, or social content. > > > > First time I started to think at this project was > when I worked on a film > > about the Apollo 11 moon landing. The interesting > part of that work was to > > think to the speech as a part of the music, the > leading part. Nothing new > > compared to My life in a bush of ghost (Brian Eno > - David Byrne, 1981), > > but it was new for me experimenting the Eno-Byrne > creative process. > > I started to work on other speeches and when I > realized that it would take > > most part of the time iâ?Tve to spend in music, I > open it to the > > CT-Collective. > > > > I'm now proud to announce the publishing of the > CT-Great Speeches project, > > my first experience as a CT-Collective project > coordinator. > > This was an amazing experience for many reasons: > different musical > > approaches and speeches choosen by the members, > different ways of working > > on the samples and many contacts with skilled > musicians, from all around > > the world. > > > > It's interesting notate that some members have > choosen speeches regarding > > similar events or content: 2nd world war, missions > in space and > > spirituality are three recourring themes in this > CD. > > That inspired me to create a playlist accordingly > to these three themes > > and > > here's how it works. > > The CD starts with a great dense, obscure and > emotional atmosphere, where > > you can hear the famous W. Churchillâ?Ts one-line > quote, "we'll fight 'em > > on > > the beaches" (1). Next songs contain the tone > colored declaration of war > > (2) by the italian dictator B. Mussolini, in a > crescendo rock track. It's > > interesting notice that both songs end with a > sample (birds in the 1st, a > > child crying in th 2nd) that introduce a reality > context. > > The third song contains a Michael Moore speech, > about the U.S. President > > G. > > Bush feeling like God (3); M. Frank had built a > very rithmic and > > straordinarly accessible track. > > The Meaning of God is the original title of the > speech held by M. Gandhi > > that appears, after an ethereal looping textures, > in Misterious Power (4), > > the song i composed for this project. > > As it was the dark side compared to the Gandhi > message, follows the > > intense > > composition by Mike Fazio, about the The Jim Jones > Jonestown Cult Suicide > > Speech (5). > > Moon 1969 (6) opens the edge of space missions. > Just announced, like in > > the > > JFK speech, altered by Michael Peters in an > onomatopoeic way, as it seems > > that youâ?Tre starting to fly ; or followed step > by step, with an ear to > > the > > President R. Reagan announcing the mission and an > ear to a radio station > > that was broadcasting in real time the Challenger > Tragedy (7), like in the > > obscure ambient song composed by Milco Montagna. > > Spirit and science converge in a unique element in > the A. Hofman speech > > choosen by Anders Ostberg for his drone track, > about a new natural wiev of > > life (8). > > Artificious is the starting point for the > (impossible) 17 U.S. Presidents > > conference (9) Norelpref created. As an answer to > all that politics > > talking, iâ?Tve put Now is the time (10) contains > a part of the famous > > Iâ?Tve a > > dream speech held by M. L. King in Washington in > 1963 (10). I compose it > > before starting the CT project, and even if iâ?Tve > encouraged the members > > to > > take in account this speech, noone used it. So i > put it here, thinking it > > could be a good final song. > > At the end, i feel it was an interesting > experience where all members work > > hard to get the best idea, or musical and > technical approach and > > inspiration. > > > > Thanks to you all for your work, collaboration and > patience, iâ?Tll hope > > it > > will be a second CT-Great Speeches project to > follow. > > Fabio Anile > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/644 - > Release Date: 22/01/2007 > 7.30 > > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 25 21:08:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 264C73BEF1; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=jYUu26TaM8WRHM1BzrOZrJs4PhODhlIFmbRpnfS2OmLxRuG/RfcUthJejJQLWK71o3yAAaG9BN7uLwkoFKMmJvVOfFYG4laDWmoRicsLFfJKBgIzqCjcIn7YYK5oqea6TfkSj1owlIn2+0qmMCUg6doMJtvbz5yzizc6r/5mntw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9D4619FF-9390-497B-8434-C6C4310107DD@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: CT-GREAT SPEECHES IS OUT ! Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:08:35 +0100 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <35WCT.A.dPH.YxRuFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:08:41 +0000 (UTC) On 21 jan 2007, at 08.47, fabio anile wrote: > Hi people, I' m proud to announce that the CT-GREAT SPEECHES > project is now > online and free to download. > Thanks to all members, for theyr creativity, patience and ispiration. > > Here's is the link: > http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=24 > and - for those of you who are interested - a "Listening guide" to the > project. > As usual, comments are welcome. Thank you! I finally had enough time to turn off the light, the chat applications and the phone to fully enjoy all this music as one long experience. That was great! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 25 21:11:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 022503BEF3; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,239,1167638400"; d="scan'208,217"; a="173044886:sNHT31478342" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C740C5.61F79F18" Subject: OT:Mac: bootcamp Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:11:29 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070124203042.5E98E3BEF3@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT:Mac: bootcamp thread-index: Acc/9pEDJ+7o3niVRj6qeBMrvx6ctwAzeiAA From: "Veda, Qua" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2007 21:11:30.0116 (UTC) FILETIME=[620DE040:01C740C5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:11:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C740C5.61F79F18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For best performance with music applications running on a new MacBook , would it be better to use "bootcamp" to create a dual booting environment, and put music applications in the Mac side and personal/business on the Windows side?=20 Or can email, web browsing, personal finance, power point etc co-exist in the MacOS enviroment (via emulation) without causing peformance problems for the music applications, latency ,etc thanks -Qua ------_=_NextPart_001_01C740C5.61F79F18 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT:Mac: bootcamp

For best performance with music = applications running on a new MacBook ,  would it be better to use = "bootcamp" to create a dual booting environment, and put music = applications in the Mac side and personal/business on the Windows side? =

Or can email, web browsing, personal = finance, power point etc  co-exist in the MacOS enviroment (via = emulation)  without causing peformance problems for the music = applications, latency ,etc

thanks
-Qua

------_=_NextPart_001_01C740C5.61F79F18-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 25 21:22:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC8673BEF0; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=LOEfDNJiK4Pp53mLkNY7N+ZJz3v8Snm1+ZMPU7FJWoAlyx4Sok19Wq5mIi0cI5ogg157kI5cw1juyOvJRWTxNc4tMwRQWTI4wUwBxPCxtxnLcjBAnK0w0pyc4aDnoNCxHsX9yqptRw4S9OC/Rsa0/9rUBMDsDjO3fFDe8GJJXv4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5249B792-817F-47E8-B684-22C19BF171EE@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: OT:Mac: bootcamp Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:22:11 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:22:18 +0000 (UTC) On 25 jan 2007, at 22.11, Veda, Qua wrote: > For best performance with music applications running on a new > MacBook , would it be better to use "bootcamp" to create a dual > booting environment, and put music applications in the Mac side and > personal/business on the Windows side? I would put everything on the Mac side. Except for some music applications that run only under Windows XP. I have two macs right now where I run everything in OSX (audio app's, internet, business stuff) and it's working flawlessly. As soon as you put your internet business on the XP side you need to start fighting with antivirus software etc. Maybe your you can use your time for more rewarding activites? > Or can email, web browsing, personal finance, power point etc co- > exist in the MacOS enviroment (via emulation) Why "emulation"? Are you implying that you want to run Windows version of those office applications, but from the Mac side? Of course that is possible, but you shouldn't do it at the same time as you are running sensitive and CPU demanding audio software. No matter which system you run them under, audio app's should have full access to the system and hardware recourses. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From service@eBay.com Thu Jan 25 22:41:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 722 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:41:17 UTC Received: from mail.amcham.ch (mail.amcham.ch [62.2.109.36]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065333BEDD for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([125.245.59.159]) by mail.amcham.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:29:09 +0100 Reply-To: From: "eBay" Subject: IMPORTANT MEMBER SERVICE INFORMATION Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:29:09 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2007 22:29:10.0050 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B976020:01C740D0] To: undisclosed-recipients:; notice

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 03:51:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAD193BEE7; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [207.90.215.35] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 207.90.215.35} Message-ID: <20070125215129.pbphgjk8eo8sw088@69.89.21.76> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:51:29 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: A little more info on RC-50 loop lengths MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Hello! This note is written to correct and clarify some information that I =20 posted regarding the RC-50 and the issue of different length loops. When "Loop Sync" is "on", then all the loops will start together. The =20 longest loop will play continuously while shorter loops will stop and =20 restart when the long loop goes back to its beginning. As a practical =20 matter, all the loops are as if they are the same length as determined =20 by the longest loop. That is, you can overdub beyond the end of the =20 short loop and that fragment will play back at the same point in the =20 loop where you overdubbed. Thus, "Loop Sync" makes the three loops =20 act as a single three-channel loop. When "Loop Sync" is "off", then each loop will repeat as soon as the =20 loop reaches the end. When used in conjunction with the "Quantize" =20 function, then even if your pedal pushes are a little off the beat, =20 the loops will quantize to the nearest bar. Also, when "Loop Sync" is =20 off, there is no length restriction on the loops. Thus, you can =20 record a loop one measure long, another that is three, and another =20 that is eight... it really doesn't matter -- they will be quantized to =20 the nearest bar (measure). I really had hoped to sync the looper with my computer's MIDI clock =20 however I just can't get it to work. The looper receives the MIDI =20 start and stop messages fine, however it doesn't stay in sync. I am =20 probably doing something wrong. I just don't want to declare that the =20 RC50 doesn't sync -- after all, syncing is one of the RC50's selling =20 points. However, for the moment I'm going to "back burner" the =20 external sync issue until the summer. Just to reiterate what I wrote before, when Quantize and "Loop sync" =20 is "off", then the three loops act essentially as totally independent =20 loops. A nicety of having them all in the same box is that you can =20 set up a pedal to start and stop all the loops at once. For example, =20 if you don't need the "Tempo" pedal, you can assign it to start and =20 stop all the loops at once. I hope this post is helpful to those who had the same questions and =20 hope this isn't boring for those who have already been through this =20 before. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 04:38:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A63633BEDD; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:38:19 -0800 From: JP Mercury Subject: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: linux-audio-user@music.columbia.edu Message-id: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060607 Debian/1.7.12-1.2 Resent-Message-ID: <4Tcwp.A.eiG.KXYuFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Folks, Time for another update on Freewheeling: ( FreeWheeling is an audio tool for live looping. It provides a highly configurable, fluid user interface for instrumentalists to capture loops in real-time. FreeWheeling runs under Linux (PC/Mac) and Mac OS X (PPC/Intel). ) http://freewheeling.sourceforge.net/welcome.shtml Freewheeling v0.5.5 is here. What's new? A host of stuff: - MIDI sync transmit for syncing to Ableton Live / other sequencers - Select, trigger, and fade multiple loops all at once - New configuration with more MIDI controls - Continuously variable feedback for overdubs- EchoPlex style - Browse patches, scenes, and loops via MIDI program change knobs - Save over existing scenes - Toggle-able sync panel for reduced screen clutter - Better stability Enjoy! And thank you to a last minute donor for his support. Much appreciated. -JPM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 08:06:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D55873BEF4; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAADdFuUXUSnIwk2dsb2JhbACOQQEBAgcOBwUe Message-ID: <45B9B692.2040806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:06:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A little more info on RC-50 loop lengths References: <20070125215129.pbphgjk8eo8sw088@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: <20070125215129.pbphgjk8eo8sw088@69.89.21.76> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:06:33 +0000 (UTC) > Just to reiterate what I wrote before, when Quantize and "Loop sync" > is "off", then the three loops act essentially as totally independent > loops. A nicety of having them all in the same box is that you can > set up a pedal to start and stop all the loops at once. For example, > if you don't need the "Tempo" pedal, you can assign it to start and > stop all the loops at once. > > I hope this post is helpful to those who had the same questions and > hope this isn't boring for those who have already been through this > before. > > -- Kevin > > thanks Kevin, that's just the sort of info we like here. One question:- If you're using "Quantise", is it still possible to tap in the first loop precisely to any length? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 12:23:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C76E3BEF1; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: fabio anile Reply-To: fabio anile To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CT-GREAT SPEECHES IS OUT ! Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:23:10 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: <1jK-1B.A.jgD.MLfuFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Yeah ! it's the right atmosphere to get the best from listening all those speeches. Thanx for feedback, Per. Fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo www.myspace.cpm/eterogeneo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 13:39:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77A743BEF5; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=BXXI4E5T7dz+xddr08u4DTq9ouP3TF8hCG8Rnhq0PqbICkhvtBr1ByYQT0pm8FGJHL4rD69EhNzDoSNY6ehS0hJVQe9zikaxN8RkuyaJFXz+iAZaOjjgFm1ukzmCN1EsxB0p8/APKwyFIoX1CIXl2Q0HajFvEU9VvoI8MUBaFok= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:39:40 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <-pIc6D.A.xgF.iSguFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Nice design! This is the kind of live performance application that inspires you to turn the laptop around and have the audience look at the screen while you play! Fullscreen mode on my mac is awesome ;-)) I found that you can't start Freewheeling unless you start Jack first. Initially I wasn't able to even start Jack. Then I downloaded the latest Jack version and both Jack and Freewheling booted. Downloaded the video tutorials from the site and found them a good crash course in Freewheeling. But I couldn't find out if FW can be set to send out MIDI Clock related to the tempo you loop in? Any one found out that yet? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom On 26 jan 2007, at 05.38, JP Mercury wrote: > Folks, > > Time for another update on Freewheeling: > > ( FreeWheeling is an audio tool for live looping. It provides a > highly configurable, fluid user interface for instrumentalists to > capture loops in real-time. FreeWheeling runs under Linux (PC/Mac) > and Mac OS X (PPC/Intel). ) > > http://freewheeling.sourceforge.net/welcome.shtml > > Freewheeling v0.5.5 is here. What's new? A host of stuff: > > - MIDI sync transmit for syncing to Ableton Live / other sequencers > - Select, trigger, and fade multiple loops all at once > - New configuration with more MIDI controls > - Continuously variable feedback for overdubs- EchoPlex style > - Browse patches, scenes, and loops via MIDI program change knobs > - Save over existing scenes > - Toggle-able sync panel for reduced screen clutter > - Better stability > > Enjoy! > And thank you to a last minute donor for his support. Much > appreciated. > > -JPM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 15:38:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 819343BEF0; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=gTfnzh0QZSnPlFaJ1ddy03c6DocR1E58ZYskHlLXuVMdZc4lk9ap98RpmtAyz+fjc3+VaPZ6q6RQ1nQBgYGPvSr1wEImsfS7VU46MMfW0+FzXy8QYzx3LRsM51Ubfbb14tL7kdyBFym4l/MPer9TwVI8Iwd9C7BMjJrN19RZpJA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Oooh... Digital album P2P release + report Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:38:45 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <8-joJD.A.2BC.LCiuFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi Looping Friends, Two weeks ago we were discussing CD release strategies here, so I thought I should post a note that I'm now releasing an album, digitally and for free (optional PayPal support). The link to listen streaming or download the full album in high quality mp3 or Ogg is: http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/per.boysen/ Ok, that's it. Now for the report on Jamendo. I chose to work with Jamendo because they utilize P2P distribution and because they harness Creative Commons licensing. --> P2P distribution Any one clicking the "download full album" on the site can choose between BitTorrent of eMule. Since I have Azureus on my Internet Mac I went for the BitTorrent and it started downloading right away (and I can already by now see that my album is downloaded by someone else, since it's starting to upload from my drive). Now, the cool thing with these P2P techniques is that the more people that have the actual files, the faster downloads neewbies will achieve from the site. First only a small directory file (the BitTorrent file) is downloaded and this directory document tells the actual P2P application on the downloaders local machine where to assemble fragments of the original package - from other users all over the net. The Jamendo team in France keeps a bunch of active Torrents for all albums to boost the first downloads, before an album takes on distribution speed by peer to peer gravitation. --> Creative Commons There are links at the site. I've been digging CC for long but until I found out about Jamendo I didn't know any service that in praxis combined CC and P2P. So I feel very much "at home" with this one. How well does it work? You have to upload your mastered album as separate track files with a special JamLoader software provided by Jamendo. I had my songs mastered as 24 bit files and it took a half day to send it all to the server. When it got published I received a very good review from one online listener almost immediately. This listener also notified me that one track was damaged. OH CRAP!!! It all happened so quickly that I had not even had the time to control listen to all tracks online. But this guy were more than correct - in fact two tracks had nasty white noise for several minutes. I had some desperate discussions with the web master and they deleted the bad files while I uploaded them again. It appeared there was always some damage done to one or two files in their automatic server system. Finally we decided that I should delete the complete album and upload it all for a new release. This meant I lost that first very enthusiastic review.... oh well. The second release also came out with some other songs damaged so I deleted it all and did a third try. This time only one song, out of fourteen, was damaged. So I resigned and asked them to delete this bad file on the server and go with only thirteen songs on the album. I have posted about this issue on the Jamendo forum but not yet had any feedback, so I can't say how often that happens. Except for the PayPal donation button on your own artist page (where everything goes to the artist) there are programs for artists to share advertisement revenues made on the entire site. The deal is the same that mp3.com had some five years ago: the label keeps 50 percent and 50 percent is split by all artists that have signed up for the program according to how popular they are, calculated by to the built- in tracking system. There is also a recommendation engine built into the system and listeners are invited to register whatever tag they find accurate for the music. These tags are the basis of the recommendation engine, as far as I understand. Generally I'm getting the impression that these people are doing a good job even on the technical side. All the best Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 15:47:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4A1D3BEF5; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45BA227C.9030803@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:47:08 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Oooh... Digital album P2P release + report References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Downloading by BitTorrent now, a bit slow but hopefully that'll pick up soon. Great idea! and thanks for making it available! I like this bit: "To play loop music is similar to standing by the edge of a huge canyon and sing back to your own echo. However, as looping musicians we take it one step further by cutting the bouncing loops and building new music out of them. Then we keep on playing on the roof of that building, thus creating new material for building the next floor." But I can't believe you didn't mention the eye candy on the site. Shirtless, with sax, onstage in fog! oh baby! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Two weeks ago we were discussing CD release strategies here, so I > thought I should post a note that I'm now releasing an album, > digitally and for free (optional PayPal support). The link to listen > streaming or download the full album in high quality mp3 or Ogg is: > http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/per.boysen/ > > Ok, that's it. Now for the report on Jamendo. I chose to work with > Jamendo because they utilize P2P distribution and because they harness > Creative Commons licensing. > > --> P2P distribution > Any one clicking the "download full album" on the site can choose > between BitTorrent of eMule. Since I have Azureus on my Internet Mac I > went for the BitTorrent and it started downloading right away (and I > can already by now see that my album is downloaded by someone else, > since it's starting to upload from my drive). Now, the cool thing with > these P2P techniques is that the more people that have the actual > files, the faster downloads neewbies will achieve from the site. First > only a small directory file (the BitTorrent file) is downloaded and > this directory document tells the actual P2P application on the > downloaders local machine where to assemble fragments of the original > package - from other users all over the net. The Jamendo team in > France keeps a bunch of active Torrents for all albums to boost the > first downloads, before an album takes on distribution speed by peer > to peer gravitation. > > --> Creative Commons > There are links at the site. I've been digging CC for long but until I > found out about Jamendo I didn't know any service that in praxis > combined CC and P2P. So I feel very much "at home" with this one. > > How well does it work? > > You have to upload your mastered album as separate track files with a > special JamLoader software provided by Jamendo. I had my songs > mastered as 24 bit files and it took a half day to send it all to the > server. When it got published I received a very good review from one > online listener almost immediately. This listener also notified me > that one track was damaged. OH CRAP!!! It all happened so quickly that > I had not even had the time to control listen to all tracks online. > But this guy were more than correct - in fact two tracks had nasty > white noise for several minutes. I had some desperate discussions with > the web master and they deleted the bad files while I uploaded them > again. It appeared there was always some damage done to one or two > files in their automatic server system. Finally we decided that I > should delete the complete album and upload it all for a new release. > This meant I lost that first very enthusiastic review.... oh well. The > second release also came out with some other songs damaged so I > deleted it all and did a third try. This time only one song, out of > fourteen, was damaged. So I resigned and asked them to delete this bad > file on the server and go with only thirteen songs on the album. I > have posted about this issue on the Jamendo forum but not yet had any > feedback, so I can't say how often that happens. > > Except for the PayPal donation button on your own artist page (where > everything goes to the artist) there are programs for artists to share > advertisement revenues made on the entire site. The deal is the same > that mp3.com had some five years ago: the label keeps 50 percent and > 50 percent is split by all artists that have signed up for the program > according to how popular they are, calculated by to the built-in > tracking system. > > There is also a recommendation engine built into the system and > listeners are invited to register whatever tag they find accurate for > the music. These tags are the basis of the recommendation engine, as > far as I understand. Generally I'm getting the impression that these > people are doing a good job even on the technical side. > > All the best > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 16:12:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C20B3BEFA; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:in-reply-to:message-id; b=f3Jps+Iy4l1sXjwpqeoum5GCx5ax6YFgCRbeP0Js1mEMgp+qMY66YVzV+apRnaum+BUZ3sS+w5FFpESSTGjBJKFBOjyz9SxRy9fNAim5x7CSl4F53m5PqBvvE26YC0blti9GUpsi9bIkzSk/5aMFwJbioU6uHh6vIlVIrlBhSa4= Reply-To: From: "Miles Ward" To: Subject: RE: Mac: bootcamp Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:12:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0072_01C74121.C780ED30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc/9pEDJ+7o3niVRj6qeBMrvx6ctwAzeiAAAAtZ7NA= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <45ba2875.6025c426.2a82.2516@mx.google.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:12:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C74121.C780ED30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If there's a piece of software that you know isn't available that you absolutely must have, then yes, boot camp will be anywhere from 10-20% more efficient from a CPU standpoint than parallels. Latency to other hardware (audio) isn't typically affected that badly, but there's some. I would venture to guess however that 99.9% of the software you're thinking of either is already available on OSX, or has a near copy from some other vendor or OSS provider. What do you often use in PC land? All of the office productivity stuff (again 99%) is available, and usually better in OSX land. -miles _____ From: Veda, Qua [mailto:qua.veda@intel.com] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:11 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT:Mac: bootcamp For best performance with music applications running on a new MacBook , would it be better to use "bootcamp" to create a dual booting environment, and put music applications in the Mac side and personal/business on the Windows side? Or can email, web browsing, personal finance, power point etc co-exist in the MacOS enviroment (via emulation) without causing peformance problems for the music applications, latency ,etc thanks -Qua ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C74121.C780ED30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT:Mac: bootcamp

If there’s a piece of = software that you know isn’t available that you absolutely must have, then yes, = boot camp will be anywhere from 10-20% more efficient from a CPU standpoint = than parallels.  Latency to other hardware (audio) isn’t typically affected that badly, but there’s some.   I would venture = to guess however that 99.9% of the software you’re thinking of either = is already available on OSX, or has a near copy from some other vendor or = OSS = provider.  What do you often use in PC land?  All of the office productivity stuff = (again 99%) is available, and usually better in OSX = land.

-miles

 


From: Veda, = Qua [mailto:qua.veda@intel.com]
Sent: Thursday, January = 25, 2007 1:11 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT:Mac: bootcamp =

 

For best performance with music applications running on a new MacBook = ,  would it be better to use "bootcamp" to create a dual booting = environment, and put music applications in the Mac side and personal/business on the = Windows side?

Or can email, web browsing, personal finance, power point etc  = co-exist in the MacOS enviroment (via emulation)  without causing peformance = problems for the music applications, latency ,etc

thanks
-Qua

------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C74121.C780ED30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 17:15:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB3A03BEEC; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:12:45 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #513 for January 25, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45BA368D.3040103@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:15:15 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070125.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and webcasting on the internet. Show #513 January 25, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Klaus Schulze. The Featured CD at Midnight was disc two of "Cyborg" on Revisited Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Caution" by Pure Gamma on Defective Records and released in 1994. Klaus Schulze: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#jan PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Pure Gamma Liquid Sky Caution (Defective) The Nazgul The Tower of The Nazgul (Psi-fi) Barad-dur Numina Lost On Silica Ridge Sanctuary of Dreams (Hypnos) Rudy Adrian MoonWater MoonWater (Lotuspike) Redshift Stuka * Toll (Distant Sun) Klaus Schulze Neuronengesang Cyborg disc 2 (Revisited) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Klaus Schulze Neuronengesang % Cyborg disc 2 (Revisited) Klaus Schulze But Beautiful Cyborg disc 2 (Revisited) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist % = excerpt NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Max Corbacho. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Resonant Memory of Earth" on Space for Music Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Structures from Silence" by Steve Roach on Fortuna Records and released in 1984. Max Corbacho: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#feb Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 17:26:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E95D03BEFC; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45BA39A8.8030808@addcom.de> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:26:00 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT:Mac: bootcamp References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Veda, Qua wrote: > For best performance with music applications running on a new MacBook , > would it be better to use "bootcamp" to create a dual booting > environment, and put music applications in the Mac side and > personal/business on the Windows side? > > Or can email, web browsing, personal finance, power point etc co-exist > in the MacOS enviroment (via emulation) without causing peformance > problems for the music applications, latency ,etc All this is safe on Mac and dead unsafe on PC. I'd even never connect to the internet on windows, its a nightmare. Just compare: On windows about several thousand new viruses, worms etc every day! On Mac 1 since OS X came out (and a harmless one). e-mail: built-in Mail or Thunderbird (the latter works on any OS) browsing: built-in Safari or Firefox (never ever consider using internet explorer in any OS) personal finance: look at http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/ if it runs in emulation, or switch back to windoof. On the other hand all important databases in general run also on OS X. office, powerpoint: get Office for the Mac with lots of $$ or take the opportunity to switch to OpenOffice, which is less costly (0) and more future proof, as its open source and can read and write any of the microshuft formats... Don't worry about performance problems OS X is very god at multitasking and you wouldn't run your office suite while performing would you? In the end you can make a smooth shift, by installing bootcamp. You'll see, you'll end up using windows less and less... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 17:48:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D5D63BEF9; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45BA3F06.2030708@addcom.de> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:48:54 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Another kind of loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Just came across this, a two bar loop with feedback by hand... http://punosmusic.com/pages/zerowaste/index.html Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 18:03:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ED6E3BEFA; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45BA4266.1060709@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:03:18 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Another kind of loop References: <45BA3F06.2030708@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <45BA3F06.2030708@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3-7Kb.A.UwH.qJkuFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:03:22 +0000 (UTC) God, that's brilliant! Must be awfully stressful for the performer, though - not just having to sight-read, but doing so aware that every mistake will be repeated. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Just came across this, a two bar loop with feedback by hand... > > http://punosmusic.com/pages/zerowaste/index.html > > Stefan > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 18:11:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8B2F3BEF7; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=rRth7s95cst4fGViuYFDUhoRfiKaPqNAz9f5AbgVwgGhHXmGb3uzmO05WYtBtkOvh+ewBXPyBxO3ibVQ/SUyxBStTCIxqHrxdBXOGEpque7aBxuUcS7Zjc+wLoTiRL1u73OSY8gJs2f9KJA9qtNKnns0AjFQ4/tqlScFniMsaf4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45BA39A8.8030808@addcom.de> References: <45BA39A8.8030808@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1357FF26-F857-4F7C-9985-AD7CE9B081B1@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: OT:Mac: bootcamp Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:11:24 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:11:35 +0000 (UTC) On 26 jan 2007, at 18.26, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > All this is safe on Mac and dead unsafe on PC. I'd even never > connect to the internet on windows, its a nightmare. You must be "a mac guy"? ;-) > Just compare: On windows about several thousand new viruses, worms > etc every day! Here's some funny statistics I read the other day: When you jack the broadband cable into your new Windows PC you have five minutes left before the box is taken over by online hackers. That's today's statistics. So if you go for internet work in Windows you should buy a PC with Anti Virus Software pre installed, 'cause you wont even have the time to buy it online, download and install it ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 18:57:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51C4D3BEFF; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=k5jLVZBlubiXjUCjvHjHtG4z/N209Mng4GDa0wJgItm9Tc0IKmTbXsfWqBY47vHaS31FLd8kUt8vn3VIDn6iMQMmEe+PDN6ErY/KLldVA2gYTUOYKLiXt0z4Druk06Vgup7CeyYO7CXuCwAcYu4tOrEBXD93KD+14lxgJv7b6R0= ; Message-ID: <20070126185700.5659.qmail@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pL5rrHIVM1nfs3FfjRgmUCFHiWYdvV1tdpVWimyKw6X0AtT9o4ibGmCYj9_nWHWlUY8FOCYHAjcAoLNa.0cXVM05nbMNA1qN8Mo1Vz7.el5dV4hPQtU- Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:57:00 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: Another kind of loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45BA4266.1060709@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:57:02 +0000 (UTC) yeah, but without those mistakes, the piece wouldn't evolve. She probably does what some of us lesser musicians do and calls that mistake, Jazz and moves on. Interesting concept too. --- Daryl Shawn wrote: > God, that's brilliant! Must be awfully stressful for > the performer, > though - not just having to sight-read, but doing so > aware that every > mistake will be repeated. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > Just came across this, a two bar loop with > feedback by hand... > > > > http://punosmusic.com/pages/zerowaste/index.html > > > > Stefan > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 19:16:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA4EA3BEF4; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,244,1167638400"; d="scan'208"; a="192565223:sNHT276528042" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: OT:Mac: bootcamp Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:16:43 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <45BA39A8.8030808@addcom.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT:Mac: bootcamp thread-index: AcdBfoNA/eJv367lRai/7cZgVfxW6g== From: "Veda, Qua" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2007 19:16:44.0450 (UTC) FILETIME=[844A6020:01C7417E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the help from everyone ! -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Tiedje [mailto:Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de]=20 Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:26 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT:Mac: bootcamp Veda, Qua wrote: > For best performance with music applications running on a new MacBook , =20 > would it be better to use "bootcamp" to create a dual booting=20 > environment, and put music applications in the Mac side and=20 > personal/business on the Windows side? >=20 > Or can email, web browsing, personal finance, power point etc co-exist=20 > in the MacOS enviroment (via emulation) without causing peformance=20 > problems for the music applications, latency ,etc All this is safe on Mac and dead unsafe on PC. I'd even never connect to the internet on windows, its a nightmare. Just compare: On windows about several thousand new viruses, worms etc every day! On Mac 1 since OS X came out (and a harmless one). e-mail: built-in Mail or Thunderbird (the latter works on any OS) browsing: built-in Safari or Firefox (never ever consider using internet explorer in any OS) personal finance: look at http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/ if=20 it runs in emulation, or switch back to windoof. On the other hand all=20 important databases in general run also on OS X. office, powerpoint: get Office for the Mac with lots of $$ or take the=20 opportunity to switch to OpenOffice, which is less costly (0) and more=20 future proof, as its open source and can read and write any of the=20 microshuft formats... Don't worry about performance problems OS X is very god at multitasking=20 and you wouldn't run your office suite while performing would you? In the end you can make a smooth shift, by installing bootcamp. You'll=20 see, you'll end up using windows less and less... Stefan --=20 Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 19:37:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCC303BEF9; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 491456044 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: OT:Mac: bootcamp/parallels Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:37:09 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7257B97C@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT:Mac: bootcamp/parallels Thread-Index: AcdBgV5CecuKoRwoQqyRAshzO72bxQ== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2007 19:37:09.0421 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E6E1DD0:01C74181] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:37:11 +0000 (UTC) >>All this is safe on Mac and dead unsafe on PC. I'd even never connect = to the internet on windows, its a nightmare.<< mac & pc spoken here. I am currently using a macbook pro for most = things, but I have firefox installed both on the mac side & on a w2k = build running under parallels. so far, the windows build has been fine, = despite many hours of internet use.=20 (I too have seen a new w2k build connected for the first time to the = internet disappear under a tidal wave of pop-ups & other shite within 20 = seconds. one of the many joys of broadband connectivity is that death = comes quicker.) so I think I'm using the mac as a sort of firewall. in other respects, = the pc build seems more stable too- I have speculated that the registry = is being interfered with a lot less. I expect it to die eventually, as = all windows builds seem to, but it does seem to be putting up a decent = fight, & so one can only conclude that the mac os &/or it's guest status = in the macbook is somehow conferring it an unfair advantage over the = other gates-boxes I have.=20 I've never tried bootcamp because it's XP-only, & XP is one circle of = hell too far for me. I don't like to be patronised by a machine, & I = find the whole "look & feel" (coupland's "microserf" hamsters...) of XP = is too fisher-price. I know I could reskin it, but there's other things = about it besides the appearance...... w2k is fine, just so long as=20 a) you are always at the back of your mind prepared for sudden & rapid = death of the build, & consequent loss of time & data, &=20 b) you don't connect it directly to the interweb.=20 use an old w98 build for browsing- it will attract a lot less undue = attention & firefox runs fine on it, & you can ghost/restore it quicker. & always keep important data (audio, artwork) on separate drives = whenever possible. not just partitions. I prefer macs to pcs generally because they are better designed- nicer = to look at. generally.=20 the toshiba tecra I'm writing on now is one of the ugliest things ever = to be shipped in personal computing. in fact, I've yet to see a pc = laptop or tower that I actually liked the look of, even the sonys. = design by committee, & I'm not sure "design" is the right word. the macbook has it's flaws, but they are mainly of execution rather than = form. the single-piece casing that forms the base of the macbook pro is = an ambitious & deeply flawed piece of metalwork, but the plastic = macbooks & the older g4 powerbook are very attractive devices. anyway. back to the matter at hand. I put parallels on the mac so that I could run one or two windows apps I = have grown fond of. I'm not going to say I couldn't live without them = because I am trying to stop short of hyperbole these days. the biggest problems I have with parallels are the memory leak (& so I = stop what I'm doing & reboot the whole shebang once an hour) & the lack = of support for writing to cd/dvd. other than that, it's a pretty good solution. ym, as always, mv. d. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 20:20:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A1E83BEFE; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:21:19 -0800 From: JP Mercury Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) In-reply-to: <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: perboysen@gmail.com Message-id: <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060607 Debian/1.7.12-1.2 Resent-Message-ID: <86ONaD.A.cUF.IKmuFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Hey, Per-- Thanks for your feedback. I'm glad you like the design. I checked out your website-- like you, I'm a freakish culture crosser, improviser, and instrumentalist. I also have the great blessing of being able to work on musical tools, to make them fly in the best way possible! So any feedback you have is received with gratitude. To answer your question on MIDI clock-- yes. As of 0.5.5, Freewheeling can transmit MIDI clock. You have to enable it. By default, Freewheeling comes configured with several MIDI outs, and MIDI clock is sent to the first one. You can change all of that by editing ~/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc (a hidden file on your Mac). But assuming you're happy with MIDI clock sent out the first port, just start up Freewheeling and press shift+F1. The sync panel should appear near the bottom of the screen. Press shift+F2 to toggle MIDI clock transmit. Once the indicator is lit, you can close the sync panel and begin improvising. Now, you've got two ways to start. You either use F2 to tap a tempo, and Freewheeling starts transmitting sync immediately. Or, you grab a loop first, using any of your loop triggers. Then you press F1, which creates a pulse, using that first loop as the tempo for other loops to come. Either way, once you have a pulse (which shows up as a pie graph on the top right side), MIDI clock is being sent. F5 gives you a metronome. Let me know what you find! Thanks Again, -~Mercury Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > Nice design! This is the kind of live performance application that > inspires you to turn the laptop around and have the audience look at > the screen while you play! Fullscreen mode on my mac is awesome ;-)) > > I found that you can't start Freewheeling unless you start Jack > first. Initially I wasn't able to even start Jack. Then I downloaded > the latest Jack version and both Jack and Freewheling booted. > > Downloaded the video tutorials from the site and found them a good > crash course in Freewheeling. > > But I couldn't find out if FW can be set to send out MIDI Clock > related to the tempo you loop in? Any one found out that yet? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > On 26 jan 2007, at 05.38, JP Mercury wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> Time for another update on Freewheeling: >> >> ( FreeWheeling is an audio tool for live looping. It provides a >> highly configurable, fluid user interface for instrumentalists to >> capture loops in real-time. FreeWheeling runs under Linux (PC/Mac) >> and Mac OS X (PPC/Intel). ) >> >> http://freewheeling.sourceforge.net/welcome.shtml >> >> Freewheeling v0.5.5 is here. What's new? A host of stuff: >> >> - MIDI sync transmit for syncing to Ableton Live / other sequencers >> - Select, trigger, and fade multiple loops all at once >> - New configuration with more MIDI controls >> - Continuously variable feedback for overdubs- EchoPlex style >> - Browse patches, scenes, and loops via MIDI program change knobs >> - Save over existing scenes >> - Toggle-able sync panel for reduced screen clutter >> - Better stability >> >> Enjoy! >> And thank you to a last minute donor for his support. Much appreciated. >> >> -JPM > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 20:52:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36BBA3BEF9; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=O/ttRQ9T08QbMEnTd+4h/ymyu5IhnhLjgumyRRc+cxWCctv5gXSmF118bDbJIpgbF66KC0bBHUAk3q7Qh/AJPyv0/EQD130LtG63vZVT9Js+Qi9LzgP2GOm2w88KP4fM6LQFFDczc6m8LyX0gor8SUZbfV98CdY7evPt6QE5ZJs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <709A1E9A-16CE-4436-95F6-49266771165F@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:51:57 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3GpOYC.A.aaG.xnmuFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:52:02 +0000 (UTC) On 26 jan 2007, at 21.21, JP Mercury wrote: > To answer your question on MIDI clock-- yes. As of 0.5.5, > Freewheeling can transmit MIDI clock. You have to enable it. By > default, Freewheeling comes configured with several MIDI outs, and > MIDI clock is sent to the first one. You can change all of that by > editing ~/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc (a hidden file on your Mac). Ok thanks, JP. I think I'll dive into the hidden Mac file area and edit something to have the MIDI Clock sent out into the OSX IAC Bus instead. You see, I'd like to sync Logic's tempo after Freewheeling because I use Logic as a sound palette for my EWI. Hmm... I guess I'd need to also edit something to make Freewheeling taking its input from a Jack bus? And then I'll send Logic's audio output into that Jack bus. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 26 21:21:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD4113BEF6; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=TVXaVZ5BjG/EOt2Fuyqq+EP/4Josj8hPnZN9BJXfEqHsQJdmljmfGr9ZOW+TY5K9ytFKc8bDtnG5D26vLGpp6YvECLdqcih5juqc4izJdbDEPWdQ7+FJPVcyBekOJrOcuX5Zek5sKP2r/g1SNafhzxMLd/gFrNsYi9DdFMyTDfw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:21:03 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:21:07 +0000 (UTC) On 26 jan 2007, at 21.21, JP Mercury wrote: > To answer your question on MIDI clock-- yes. As of 0.5.5, > Freewheeling can transmit MIDI clock. You have to enable it. By > default, Freewheeling comes configured with several MIDI outs, and > MIDI clock is sent to the first one. You can change all of that by > editing ~/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc (a hidden file on your Mac). Not even OSX Spotlight can find that file on this Mac. Any hints? 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Yours sincerely James Duke From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 27 09:11:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D7553BED9; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:10:13 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to The AM/FM Show in Less Than Two Hours To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45BB16F5.2070006@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:11:36 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, January 27 at 6:00 am EST / GMT-5. 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All rights reserved From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 27 10:36:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 581063BEEE; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TnGf0nicMaMZ4PzzZWWpxWioIsClCuoE5lRrAIhWdiA09dHEEOIqmDbY9bQ2TUTJ/6XlzU24IgU/WDotEA7KvhHT+uxVrYaY52+/SnzEHM1oimvEgglyHE+WWse8e1S9IJiIRAVM/T7l/7cPQKq5xO1T25/xC7QcjQcVwoRohuY=; X-YMail-OSG: l8r6SjcVM1k0oLDYlGC8XC389lINJC5R2cNYH7uI_slQwP_gZLaSC_vKKlnUigMcP5j1AIXWG_GAxQU.PFl5bCOpSA-- Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:36:03 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: gordius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <218865.20329.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:36:05 +0000 (UTC) In case you arent aware: http://www.gordius.be/ cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 27 13:45:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A24213BED2; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:45:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: new vid online Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <45BB5771.5992.F2A9C3@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:45:33 +0000 (UTC) I've put a vid of a recent gig on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Qvbwd0ew4 the intro is worth watching for it's own sake - priceless ;) All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 27 15:07:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3C933BED8; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:05:21 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for January 27, 2006 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45BB6A31.3070204@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:07:11 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2007/070127.html I host the Saturday AM/FM Show every other week where I play electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #101 January 27, 2006. During Phase I of this show, I continued the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Rich & Boddy] Tuning Out E-dition #11 (Groove) VA [Reuter & Boddy] This Life E-dition #11 (Groove) VA [Boddy & Moire E-dition #11 (Groove) Wosteinrich] VA [Subsonic Treasures of the E-dition #11 (Groove) Experience] World VA [ARC] Silent White Light E-dition #11 (Groove) VA [Subsonic Smash & Grab E-dition #11 (Groove) Experience] VA [ARC] Corrosion E-dition #11 (Groove) mindSpiral Fist of God 1/ The 1 Is Silent (Atomic City) Bigfoot mindSpiral Purple Fuzzy Monkeys The 1 Is Silent (Atomic City) Taking Over the Moon Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Randy Klein Dee Dee Dee Invitation In (Jazzheads) Randy Klein Oh Where? Invitation In (Jazzheads) John Conkle Eclipse Eclipse (none) Ken Townshend Gentle Beauty Gentle Beauty (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== The Muffins Amelia Earhart Manna/Mirage (Cuneiform) TriPod As the Sun TriPod (Moonjune) Pinnacle Information Overload Meld (Everything To Excess) Ozric Tentacles Jellylips The Floor's Too Far Away (Magna Carta) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) I return to the AM/FM Show on February 10. On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 27 17:47:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC3963BED3; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <001f01c7423b$40157440$4001a8c0@mini> From: "CV" To: References: <218865.20329.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: gordius Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 18:47:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:47:45 +0000 (UTC) well see how much latency all this chaining will give but its a brilliant idea Claude In case you arent aware: http://www.gordius.be/ cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 00:25:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05C4D3BED6; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45BBED59.7010601@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 18:24:57 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new vid online References: <45BB5771.5992.F2A9C3@nick.12testing.net> In-Reply-To: <45BB5771.5992.F2A9C3@nick.12testing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Agreed, nothing could beat props from an 87-year-old! Lovely drone as well, in a great setting. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > I've put a vid of a recent gig on youtube > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Qvbwd0ew4 > > the intro is worth watching for it's own sake - priceless ;) > All the best, > > Nick Robinson > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 07:11:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F6E13BED9; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 07:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:09:20 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: CDBaby artists - important change In-reply-to: <8728760.1169409562282.JavaMail.root@m11> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <45BC4C20.90801@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <8728760.1169409562282.JavaMail.root@m11> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 07:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Matthew F. McCabe wrote: > If you've been streaming mp3s from your website by linking to your > CDBaby page, you should double check to make sure the link still > works. It appears that they changed some of their coding, so the old > link doesn't work anymore. > The old code/link looked something like this... > http://cdbaby.com/mp3lofi/kingnever3-02.m3u > The new code/link looks like this... > http://67.139.134.253/da551511/mp3lofi/k/i/kingnever3-02.mp3 CD Baby must be going through a transitional period because my clips appear to have the old naming system. Thanks for the heads-up. Cheers, Bill http://cdbaby.com/group/pinnacleband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 12:04:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8C743BEDD; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=zM3Nxze/OnJSF05KI+0fL8kYuwDy6MHLWpd4cykoHEwONE7FokzpPXhzqBjXj4cA/PFTY70eXjp6Aiqk16o6J5P3tykm7gLV1VqGpWhi46yGWYycAn+C912u3emM93WI0ZHkNp04r9eOJ+nrRoqKy/SUDeEchrAcGPyGBUUPNtk=; X-YMail-OSG: 7qCP8C8VM1kbYxuUDdgqAqOt0fS6Hc1xRO5aA.q8j3ddsmQW_5c2dIiZHdFOwL9FQOEH17y6EvJTZ91yijDpRYbLTFha3C_24FzTvTC46EWovGAmHEsREU2MWYuxCaP2u01ap5kmI35t Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:04:31 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: RPM Challenge To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45BC4C20.90801@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <522257.86089.qm@web43129.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:04:33 +0000 (UTC) This started last year as a local thing (Seacoast NH), but it's grown. It's not a contest; it's a challenge. Record an album in 28 days. Anyone want in? Just sign up. -t- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 13:14:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E243E3BED3; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=BmAFuvjUn7wQP+Rmhq98LXuBAgmIg0V4/hjw4sHMQ0ia9TTRCTylW6gkUB5+8PjrSNiFFNL70AUQKNpZMhA5Wksj28KXqbhqeGdu/jkrxN5EQYv6j7zxxEIOTuAmbjcyjJ3e+lHwlreBRrUXXAvvAw5u8Rpfiuu8ORJHAfY/wAg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45BB5771.5992.F2A9C3@nick.12testing.net> References: <45BB5771.5992.F2A9C3@nick.12testing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <28E69495-F5DC-486B-B7C8-CD5622821062@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: new vid online Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:14:08 +0100 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:14:15 +0000 (UTC) On 27 jan 2007, at 14.45, nick@12testing.net wrote: > I've put a vid of a recent gig on youtube > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Qvbwd0ew4 THat was a great idea to start and finnish off the video with that lady! I enjoyed the music as well, but I found myself longing for a better audio fidelity then the "U-tube sound". I also wished the camera man would have wandered around a bit more, filming over your shoulder on those boxes inside your rack and also filmed a little more of the audience and the beautiful room where it all happened. I mean, if it wasn't for the music I would never watch "a guy with guitar checking his email" for that long ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 15:06:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 456273BED3; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 15:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rrRziKEh0wp/b+BA9Gj3KYRx/rzLAt0FbNOsgmBOpE4l2t3EgrafC5exYrnCCnfZgMeW/XR9u0BLnujYqaWAZB75dcsNW2YbIvRdR1wbCd6Pq0C/MlxqGi+ikcv5e6dn+XOKLtPiqmMzje8Q0WmOGD/JK0m6i8Ti7Yk6qQ7jq8E= Message-ID: <9e0440a60701280706j6075c3adqb5e91b844f8f958a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:06:47 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RPM Challenge In-Reply-To: <522257.86089.qm@web43129.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_78508_24943310.1169996807421" References: <45BC4C20.90801@soundscapes.us> <522257.86089.qm@web43129.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 15:06:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_78508_24943310.1169996807421 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tim is this a collaborative thing or individual projects? In a sense I've done this a few times but more demo purposes... happy new year by the way haven't emailed to you in awhile. Jim On 1/28/07, Tim Nelson wrote: > > This started last year as a local thing (Seacoast NH), > but it's grown. It's not a contest; it's a challenge. > Record an album in 28 days. > > Anyone want in? Just sign up. > > frontpage/ Itemid,1/> > > -t- > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. > http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodin.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_78508_24943310.1169996807421 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Tim is this a collaborative thing or individual projects?  In a sense I've done this a few times but more demo purposes...
 
happy new year by the way haven't emailed to you in awhile.
 
Jim

 
On 1/28/07, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> wrote:
This started last year as a local thing (Seacoast NH),
but it's grown. It's not a contest; it's a challenge.
Record an album in 28 days.

Anyone want in? Just sign up.

<http://www.rpmchall enge.com/ component/ option,com_
frontpage/ Itemid,1/>

-t-





____________________________________________________________________________________
Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodin.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere
Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com
The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

Associates and friends on the web -
Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_78508_24943310.1169996807421-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 16:13:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A72D3BEE0; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=AftfbS/YHhyzF12gWYgwM/Kps4p0ynbUdUzM2IVACw63iy6ATj/VCeHxG9VDJeK6MznHJJv3xacd4z/8BP+W/JVfXejDtvKuA/DbjI3VYih1JTgm29Kg/5zUJhztcQHT28cUU8p8yhzBAxZmgZSwOoaNd708My1MyxGGVfq0i4s=; X-YMail-OSG: sKBDYg0VM1kokKMMYhWjH0AOyvrkJifRVWF2laHtoRFdvGz2zLWl70V2In1ED1eQLChRrLfm1_g9tB3cNd2L2MuUU8k_PLJYFaVaNCg6xCV1Rqbzs90OO1YQZTcUwe3SDALDQX_Rv_DrVfbcbSR9xBBDou4MHSqKZ5nvZN4CNIEKtEXjkXVDsY9SyDQ- Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:13:46 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: RPM Challenge To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60701280706j6075c3adqb5e91b844f8f958a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <801084.35350.qm@web43115.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:13:48 +0000 (UTC) --- Jim Goodin wrote: > Tim is this a collaborative thing or individual > projects? It's anything you want it to be; solo, collaborative, whatever. The guidelines are pretty loose. It's NOT like the CT Collective, though, where participants contribute to compilation CDs, these are completely autonomous projects. And it's NOT a contest, there are no prizes. You retain all rights to your work, etc. Here's a better (non-blown-over) link to their homepage: where any and all questions may already be answered, and if not, there's a 'contact' link. (I do know the folks running it, but I'm not in any way connected besides as a participant, so please refer specific questions about it to them, not me.) I didn't participate last year because it was less than a month after I'd released two solo CDs, but there is publicity (press and airplay) involved, and a lot of the people who were in on it last year told me it was a lot of fun. The wrapup party was the stuff of legend as well. ;) -t- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 16:20:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F3E83BEEC; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=kzbmqZ2/L/EhGXrLx4Gz23fQbYLFYbUOVaho6ACyTtUtAAn6YFzcj0/wncx/MydhKnWtFzZpEvih8cMpRh1BQA6mQbG4P3Y2/llCi0EZ8qDc0yebzJ+evEGjR3KeS5rkoa3TaWOXBOTt+YGtUv332hc5qD3mcbPVpY4yq6GXk24=; X-YMail-OSG: 9vavi58VM1mt_oA7RzWNxcfvODJP4lcgdRDUZ_3GLBbkParwLIfzyZsl6nTZfC6Xqb3z.MqDCCOh6a0UcqWc_N7D8_ZL0HLeeQIH3HWqgJ0TkpSVibjbyaMjMa.bcplCbNbLaXRmerE_LIYy_FL0p2A- Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:20:52 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: new vid online To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <28E69495-F5DC-486B-B7C8-CD5622821062@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <957767.68652.qm@web43111.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6goWD.A.NzD.m1MvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC) While I was on YouTube to watch Nick's video, I searched under 'looping'. Lots of interesting stuff; Steve Lawson's and Arthur Lee Land's respective EDP demos, stuff from Imogen Heap, etc. -t- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 16:28:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E9C03BEE0; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=f0J14F+kysv3jXOxAZIMSSZyfhmThRIvkGvsL80ylHblEfjAOkIa5GchbDdoYBprGEmhBdXor6lCwsOzBknRlZSxiDQAT6kB4t4xQCDRAZL3WDkJCYOrBqwkjs3V9Mya9CIN7b9gRqF297Kh0HY2brghv5RkFGcCQoEcb4PtEGI=; X-YMail-OSG: RsU3zjcVM1lmHilmCq8c.SLGjEJhtA2Z1AS5OMGqISqdS4uaacbk7U4r2IhZ.htR8iVZ8xCDJd.Ab2oY5tLlxsh.3JEy8zY8P385fE5KeVEtn.Xpbk0Ggrq1aXWKrjvKYmjnYhZj3.McM._Tk3.Gs6AYdMtObIhz19RaIfQ2S10WVzoxkzEZ0b3LzvE- Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:28:27 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: CDBaby artists - important change To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45BC4C20.90801@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <785235.48568.qm@web43107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Here's CDBaby honcho Derek's explanation of what's going on with it: -t- --- Bill Fox wrote: > CD Baby must be going through a transitional period > because my clips > appear to have the old naming system. Thanks for > the heads-up. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 16:36:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C23B3BEF0; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers , Per Boysen Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:36:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: new vid online Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <45BCD115.23898.1A0DB45@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <28E69495-F5DC-486B-B7C8-CD5622821062@gmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: <1zAXeC.A.QtE.jENvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:36:51 +0000 (UTC) On 28 Jan 2007 at 14:14, Per Boysen wrote: > lady! I enjoyed the music as well, but I found myself longing for a > better audio fidelity then the "U-tube sound". I also recorded it on mini-disk and synced up that with the video, but it sounded the same once uploaded ;( > camera man would have wandered around a bit more, filming over your > shoulder on those boxes inside your rack and also filmed a little > more of the audience and the beautiful room where it all happened. Me too, but he was doing it for a favour, so I mustn't grumble. > if it wasn't for the music I would never watch "a guy with > guitar checking his email" for that long ;-)) I was tempted to add a load of 70s video effects to try and inject some excitement into it. There's no doubt about it, looping isn't very visual, not the way I do it anyway ;) All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 17:52:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33A533BEF0; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yU7t7VLK1hesEkJ5TjpbedTzBcUVLeQqmretlmaTpqjKGLaJlkr0et/tIzvv8MD+T/RbvM6RRoUgDikfctXU0A8v5tsEZPBcMtJISgKIyc6G63k+Zo5jxcDOfLd4Esmw4KLs0sEVUOl4mT+LMYLieUgqhh5H7CSpupmiTkSivcc=; X-YMail-OSG: aVejPZ4VM1k2s1oAycfT993s4IIj68FdBnsnSDvp.3VxbAbX5YzgP1tdE_uaoyPF3NV60EcUqw040hh6cmVxd2VFLgARSIu91Az0B3ZznL4eHaDjcCbnhixbrCsOmi6lT_cD52PRSgmH9aMe1m6XOmqSlIZq Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 09:52:55 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Subject: Fwd: My ol jammin buddy Andy Mckee on Late Night w/ Carson Daly and Europe Tour To: austin@starrfadu.net, Angela Gibbs , Incite Bill and Carrie Mulder , babycakes61_2000@yahoo.com, barebonesfilmfest@yahoo.com, Barbara Hill , Ben , Brad Benge , Brett Bower , Brian Good , "Carmen.E.Hill-1" , Darain Conrady , Erin Chambers , Jamie Cook , Luthier Cumpiano , Michael Chapdelaine , Natalie Cox , Phil Clarkin , The Clampdown , deanal@skilonline.com, Dan A , Daryl Needham , dawnua dawson , Dennis Jamison , Doug or Marsha Phillips , experienceincite@aol.com, Elizabeth Darling , Eric Redlhammer , faithdriven1@sbcglobal.net, Garrick Hudson , Greg McDowell , Jim and Belinda , Horseshoe Road , Jan Meredith , Janice Malan , Jeff Scheetz , keith@kmarshall.com, Joe Klinkon , Kaylie Bernhardt , Kevin Hiatt , Marci Klotz , laynebrady@hotmail.com, Lemuel Shepherd , Lisa , Naoki Shimodate , misterm456@aol.com, JP Nickel , JP Nickel , Natalie website , Nathan Shaver , Nattapong Assalee , Neona Smith , Paul Sutoris , raineyamanda@hotmail.com, Rhonda , Roy Hatcher , Rochelle and Bethea , Sant Ananchai , Scott Stratten , ShIronbutterfly Ray , Thomas Rhodes , tykorandia@hotmail.com, Joe Tholen , "John,Sandy,Sunny Thompson" , Mindy Townsend , Tellman and Stephanie , Todd Hallawell , Valerio , willaalbertini52@yahoo.com, Mark White , Ziggy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-281964519-1170006775=:22220" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <468011.22220.qm@web31801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:52:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-281964519-1170006775=:22220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-281964519-1170006775=:22220 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Apparently-To: danielalbertini72@yahoo.com via 68.142.207.69; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:34:51 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [206.130.116.200] Authentication-Results: mta301.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=cox.net; domainkeys=neutral (no sig) Received: from 206.130.116.200 (EHLO andymckee.com) (206.130.116.200) by mta301.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:34:51 -0800 Received: (from andymckee@localhost) by andymckee.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) id l0RIYo7L003212; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:34:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:34:50 -0700 From: Andy McKee Mailing List To: danielalbertini72@yahoo.com Reply-To: Andy McKee Mailing List X-Priority: 3 List: mckeelist List-Archive: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-URL: X-Mailer: Dada Mail 2.10.7 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Late Night w/ Carson Daly and Europe Content-Length: 758 Hey there! The Carson Daly show will be taped at 6:30 on Feb. 1st at NBC Studios in Burbank California. You can get free tickets if you'd like at www.1iota.com The show should air on either Feb. 7th or 8th of the following week on NBC affiliates across the country. At the end of February and into early March are some gigs with Thomas Leeb and Dan LaVoie in Missouri, Kansas, and Colorado. I will be playing 2 gigs in the U.K on March 22nd and 23rd in Nottingham, and Lincoln respectively. After that, there will be a few gigs in Germany and Austria with my guitar hero and good friend Don Ross. I will post more about those shows soon, just check out my shows page when you have time. www.myspace.com/andymckee2 I've put up a new forum for my website! It has some pretty cool features like private messaging and all that. You can access it here http://andymckee.jconserv.net/index.php I will frequently answer questions and hang out there, feel free to stop by and say hello. Take care, Andy McKee You may automatically unsubscribe from this list at any time by visiting the following URL: If you're still having trouble, please contact the list owner at: --0-281964519-1170006775=:22220-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 20:49:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A50563BECF; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PRKs68d9jJw7ZFiGXVJp8pifXXnJgt+rmEaTFAiHF2qBZBhjKlsJpzyRguj/osmyDkvmUGjytqIC2ldJoNuCEMIvtXOU5aq7P+mjUjXYKH+hqcO04eaoiL1nWqeIAvH9LyZzgwhI0bOi4EDIjo9c0JldJHyR80vk+ErjxI+NZVI= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:49:12 +0100 From: "fred dutertre" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: gibson echoplex sync with Ableton Live MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <5bFC6D.A.aaH.OxQvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:49:18 +0000 (UTC) hi, I use 2 Echoplex... an old Oberheim & a recent Gibson with loop IV. I use it with Ableton Live in midi Synchro : Sync In on Echoplex & sync On in Live... so Echoplex is in esclave mode. Old Oberheim works perfectly, It wait for the beginning of the next mesure before starting the record process...... but not New Gibson!!! I don't understand that's happens!!??? thanks for your support, fred From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 21:41:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B4D43BED5; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <785235.48568.qm@web43107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <785235.48568.qm@web43107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-587265584 Message-Id: From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: CDBaby artists - important change Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:41:50 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:41:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-587265584 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Well, now my work-around coding isn't working either!! Tim, thanks for the link. That should help me to figure out how to remedy the situation. Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 28, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Tim Nelson wrote: > Here's CDBaby honcho Derek's explanation of what's > going on with it: > > > -t- > > --- Bill Fox wrote: >> CD Baby must be going through a transitional period >> because my clips >> appear to have the old naming system. Thanks for >> the heads-up. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > --Apple-Mail-1-587265584 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, now my work-around coding = isn't working either!!

Tim, thanks for the link.=A0 = That should help me to figure out how to remedy the situation.

Matt

---

King Never

http://www.kingnever.com

=

On Jan 28, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Tim Nelson = wrote:

Here's CDBaby honcho Derek's = explanation of what's
going on with it:


--- Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> = wrote:
CD Baby must = be going through a transitional period
because = my clips=A0
appear to have the old naming system.=A0 Thanks for
the heads-up.





Do you Yahoo!?
Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail = beta.


=

= --Apple-Mail-1-587265584-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 21:47:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F41D3BED9; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:47:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:45:43 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Cds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <3W9-FB.A.r2B.DoRvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:47:47 +0000 (UTC) At 12:36 PM -0800 1/3/07, samba - wrote: >I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met at Lou >Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media for archival >storage. Would that be Fred Lieberman? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 22:06:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 271AE3BECA; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-588703818 Message-Id: <96ec1fd83a21668abc879406f49b160b@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Cds Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:05:48 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-588703818 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed tape sounds good. But tape sucks. I have a shelf full of 2" masters that are all goopy now. Lay not up treasures where moth and rust doth corrupt etc. Gold master DVDs and audio CDs are the closest thing we have to eternity right now... other than our imaginations. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 28-Jan-07, at 1:45 PM, David Gans wrote: > At 12:36 PM -0800 1/3/07, samba - wrote: >> I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met at Lou >> Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media for archival >> storage. > > Would that be Fred Lieberman? > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > --Apple-Mail-3-588703818 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII tape sounds good. But tape sucks. I have a shelf full of 2" masters that are all goopy now. Lay not up treasures where moth and rust doth corrupt etc. Gold master DVDs and audio CDs are the closest thing we have to eternity right now... other than our imaginations. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 28-Jan-07, at 1:45 PM, David Gans wrote: At 12:36 PM -0800 1/3/07, samba - wrote: I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met at Lou Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media for archival storage. Would that be Fred Lieberman? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com --Apple-Mail-3-588703818-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 22:14:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3788A3BEE8; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <45BA39A8.8030808@addcom.de> References: <45BA39A8.8030808@addcom.de> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:00:08 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: OT:Mac: bootcamp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2007 22:14:55.0955 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDC01230:01C74329] Resent-Message-ID: <9Wup9C.A.HDD.hBSvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:14:58 +0000 (UTC) >Veda, Qua wrote: >>For best performance with music applications running on a new >>MacBook , would it be better to use "bootcamp" to create a dual >>booting environment, and put music applications in the Mac side and >>personal/business on the Windows side? I am doing the exact oposite: text, graphic and net on OSX, music on WinXP Stefan Tiedje answered: >Don't worry about performance problems OS X is very god at >multitasking and you wouldn't run your office suite while performing >would you? > >In the end you can make a smooth shift, by installing bootcamp. >You'll see, you'll end up using windows less and less... > >Stefan If I run the same Bidule file with rather heavy plugins (30-49% proz) on the MacMini dual, I get a lot of clicks with OSX and next to none with XP the amazing is that the OSX seems to distribute the tasks on both processors, while XP runs them on only one... Could this mean that the single proz Mini would run better? -- ---> http://www.matthiasgrob.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 22:46:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C47933BED3; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45BD27AB.1090804@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:46:03 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: tape (was Cds) References: <96ec1fd83a21668abc879406f49b160b@glasswing.com> In-Reply-To: <96ec1fd83a21668abc879406f49b160b@glasswing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Bake 'em! Tapes from the 50's are still playable...most people say audio cds have a life of ten years, though cdr's are known to often go bad sooner. As discussed a few weeks ago, the best solution is to store digital stuff on hard drives. Problem is that the technology moves so fast in this area that one will frequently have to transfer data to the new version...imagine having stuff on a 5 1/4" floppy, for instance, or even a hard drive from the late 80's. You'd have to go to great lengths even now to retrieve that, I'm sure in another ten years it'll be almost impossible. I think it was a point made by noted sage Steve Albini that tape recorders are such simple technology that one could be created from simple supplies and a schematic, as opposed to trying to recreate a computer from an earlier time which would be a monumental task. ok, I'm just a tape fiend. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > tape sounds good. But tape sucks. I have a shelf full of 2" masters > that are all goopy now. > > Lay not up treasures where moth and rust doth corrupt etc. > > Gold master DVDs and audio CDs are the closest thing we have to > eternity right now... other than our imaginations. > > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 28-Jan-07, at 1:45 PM, David Gans wrote: > > At 12:36 PM -0800 1/3/07, samba - wrote: > > I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met > at Lou Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media > for archival storage. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 22:50:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B576D3BEEC; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45BD27AB.1090804@mhorse.com> References: <96ec1fd83a21668abc879406f49b160b@glasswing.com> <45BD27AB.1090804@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <79B0649F-4EAE-42FB-919D-BCFDFDD85EB3@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: OT: tape (was Cds) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:50:07 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:50:10 +0000 (UTC) > ...most people say audio cds have a life of ten years, Says who? > though cdr's are known to often go bad sooner. ditto Can you cite any studies/evidence? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 28 23:21:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 872323BED8; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45BD2FFA.3070208@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:21:30 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: tape (was Cds) References: <96ec1fd83a21668abc879406f49b160b@glasswing.com> <45BD27AB.1090804@mhorse.com> <79B0649F-4EAE-42FB-919D-BCFDFDD85EB3@midway.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <79B0649F-4EAE-42FB-919D-BCFDFDD85EB3@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Hmm....gotta google that, it's what I've heard informally for some time but now ya got my back 'gainst the wall. This is probably the strongest support for my wayward claim (in fact, this posits two-five years...): http://computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,107607,00.html Here's some other articles that don't make such claims, in fact say that cdr's could last 100 years or even more with optimal conditions, but in less than ideal conditions could just last a year or two (which is somewhat more consistent with my own experience, I've had lots of problems with burned discs from five years ago or less). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R http://www.clir.org/PUBS/reports/pub121/sec4.html Ultimately, the technology hasn't been around long enough for us to know for sure, so I should probably keep my mouth (more) shut. With tape, we have more history to go by. I'd be curious what others have heard and experienced. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > ...most people say audio cds have a life of ten years, > > Says who? > >> though cdr's are known to often go bad sooner. > > ditto > > Can you cite any studies/evidence? > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 01:03:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD43B3BEEE; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: Bryan.Phil@kraft.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: edp for rc-50 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:03:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C74340.BEC6A91B" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2007 01:03:15.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[417A5560:01C74341] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:03:19 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C74340.BEC6A91B Content-Type: text/plain I have a newer Echoplex digital pro plus (blackface, loop IV)with footswitch (white) enclosed in a heavy duty rack case. I would like to trade it for a Boss RC-50 plus cash. The rc-50 just seems more for what im into doing. My echoplex is in great shape. Only issue is that it is missing the output knob. However the pot works fine. The plastic knob part just fell off and I never bought a replacement. Never needed to. Let me know if anyone is interested. bphil@optonline.net for fastest response. Bryan ------_=_NextPart_001_01C74340.BEC6A91B Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable edp for rc-50

I have a newer Echoplex digital pro plus (blackface, = loop IV)with footswitch (white) enclosed in a heavy duty rack = case.  I would like to trade it for a Boss RC-50 plus cash. The = rc-50 just seems more for what im into doing. My echoplex is in great = shape. Only issue is that it is missing the output knob.  However = the pot works fine. The plastic knob part just fell off and I never = bought a replacement. Never needed to.

Let me know if anyone is interested.
bphil@optonline.net for fastest response.

Bryan

------_=_NextPart_001_01C74340.BEC6A91B-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 01:07:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE14B3BEF9; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dh3ccaVT928zgU7gjsaG8qLIFDnJLAwfh0esz1Vm78R0yAHjI11kMk+/a4aDnL+EhlS/CJarYJFR9v4+E81GOeT7rH1oqoSOIyPsiPQWTpKRO9aXHvlzXQKNxgGEi+4kgzTsQyTYijtP9hRcsGSwp7trE0fWKEkz8d+mPF+3R40= ; Message-ID: <20070129010713.26144.qmail@web27712.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZXmRBlYVM1ku61V_R_oV73DuPwyITJo_yYyomgFzrX_8LtETQ_cLs1pz5p1grgV9XKDtI7yYy8yh6MzDKhbU1JWtG156FT9quijDE3rmeG20isUDggv_EvGf9y8MzFEa1l6XRLuHOZqjde5OeUmyCOdD3KmsZssy Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:07:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Tony Douglas Subject: OT: Michael Brook To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Don't remember seeing a link to this, but just in case anyone hasn't seen it, Michael Brook did a set for KCRW.com's Morning Becomes Eclectic show on the 24th. You can see and/or hear the set at http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/mb/mb070124michael_brook Michael, Julie Rogers (sp?) and Lisa Germano and a variety of electronics are the band for the set. - Tony ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 01:45:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED00D3BEF3; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Jr/ddyxB92ZQA5B5JjhdlQ2DqASDFgkDZZhXMjpqy+Nwlq6ow5WPCB7VpXJYGTMnxmtzAc1OSxO/l/HpJXRRxVnh7e57PgIoHzmRLrJF2T/uLcRrG1jRBE5VFuncZfkcEZwRBJiSUOCz4MFWnEUSeAB0Vbnie4VK0+CKfurfGGw= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:45:35 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: tape (was Cds) In-Reply-To: <45BD2FFA.3070208@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_64865_8659198.1170035135095" References: <96ec1fd83a21668abc879406f49b160b@glasswing.com> <45BD27AB.1090804@mhorse.com> <79B0649F-4EAE-42FB-919D-BCFDFDD85EB3@midway.uchicago.edu> <45BD2FFA.3070208@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:45:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_64865_8659198.1170035135095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been hearing about how CD's "go bad" after a few years ever since I bought my first CD player...twenty years ago. I still have the first CD I bought (and pretty much all of them since then), and they play fine. I've never taken any special care of them, other that storing them in jewel cases when they're not being played. I don't believe that CD's sitting on a shelf go bad unless there was some sort of manufacturing defect. I remember around the same time I heard CD's went bad, I was told by the same folks that CD's would sound better if you colored the edges with a green sharpie. Or a black one. Or was in the inner ring? Then you'd hear that CD-R's would go bad. The theory behind this (heat kills CD-R's because they're a product of laser-driven thermal printing) sounded a little more plausible, but I've been burning CD-R's for ten years now, and I have all my original masters, which I've been slightly more careful with (never storing them in a car where they'd get hot), but I had to pull a bunch of things off of my oldest CD-R's the other day, and I had zero problems. So, I'm skeptical of the fragility of CD's. TravisH On 1/28/07, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > Hmm....gotta google that, it's what I've heard informally for some time > but now ya got my back 'gainst the wall. > > This is probably the strongest support for my wayward claim (in fact, > this posits two-five years...): > > > http://computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,107607,00.html > > Here's some other articles that don't make such claims, in fact say that > cdr's could last 100 years or even more with optimal conditions, but in > less than ideal conditions could just last a year or two (which is > somewhat more consistent with my own experience, I've had lots of > problems with burned discs from five years ago or less). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R > http://www.clir.org/PUBS/reports/pub121/sec4.html > > Ultimately, the technology hasn't been around long enough for us to know > for sure, so I should probably keep my mouth (more) shut. With tape, we > have more history to go by. I'd be curious what others have heard and > experienced. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > ------=_Part_64865_8659198.1170035135095 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been hearing about how CD's "go bad" after a few years ever since I bought my first CD player...twenty years ago.  I still have the first CD I bought (and pretty much all of them since then), and they play fine.  I've never taken any special care of them, other that storing them in jewel cases when they're not being played.  I don't believe that CD's sitting on a shelf go bad unless there was some sort of manufacturing defect.  I remember around the same time I heard CD's went bad, I was told by the same folks that CD's would sound better if you colored the edges with a green sharpie.  Or a black one.  Or was in the inner ring?

Then you'd hear that CD-R's would go bad.  The theory behind this (heat kills CD-R's because they're a product of laser-driven thermal printing) sounded a little more plausible, but I've been burning CD-R's for ten years now, and I have all my original masters, which I've been slightly more careful with (never storing them in a car where they'd get hot), but I had to pull a bunch of things off of my oldest CD-R's the other day, and I had zero problems.

So, I'm skeptical of the fragility of CD's.

TravisH

On 1/28/07, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com > wrote:
Hmm....gotta google that, it's what I've heard informally for some time
but now ya got my back 'gainst the wall.

This is probably the strongest support for my wayward claim (in fact,
this posits two-five years...):

http://computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,107607,00.html

Here's some other articles that don't make such claims, in fact say that
cdr's could last 100 years or even more with optimal conditions, but in
less than ideal conditions could just last a year or two (which is
somewhat more consistent with my own experience, I've had lots of
problems with burned discs from five years ago or less).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R
http://www.clir.org/PUBS/reports/pub121/sec4.html

Ultimately, the technology hasn't been around long enough for us to know
for sure, so I should probably keep my mouth (more) shut.  With tape, we
have more history to go by. I'd be curious what others have heard and
experienced.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com


------=_Part_64865_8659198.1170035135095-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 04:20:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C23783BEF7; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 04:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=sCDtA+erSIT9bBxm7+vtdloexHlRQz5J05rmsIJKoCx3V2oTOKBKS5ucjJMW6ZNjyOpcgJT0JOlCa9lpjL9AGZXnrhl6L5RMijcsgoKXXqaaKyLQufanVPofdjkysQ2yWsJOGCdYeltflOobuzXobx/1M1Pa1lkIEY1yHqdZscI= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:20:40 -0500 From: "Jesse Chappell" Sender: essejlc@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2b51aee38424ffd4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 04:20:43 +0000 (UTC) On 1/26/07, Per Boysen wrote: > On 26 jan 2007, at 21.21, JP Mercury wrote: > > > To answer your question on MIDI clock-- yes. As of 0.5.5, > > Freewheeling can transmit MIDI clock. You have to enable it. By > > default, Freewheeling comes configured with several MIDI outs, and > > MIDI clock is sent to the first one. You can change all of that by > > editing ~/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc (a hidden file on your Mac). > > > Not even OSX Spotlight can find that file on this Mac. Any hints? If you've run the app, it should be there. Just open up a Terminal, and type this: open /Applications/TextEdit.app ~/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc But you're right, the Finder and OS X in general makes it very hard to see hidden files beginning with '.' without using a terminal. jlc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 05:36:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0758B3BEF6; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000501c74367$59dfa530$0200a8c0@raulb3d53f8e09> From: "raul bonell" To: Subject: EH 2880 and MIDI foot controller ? Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:35:54 +0100 Organization: paciencia records MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: <8AnVY.A.ycE.GfYvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Is this possible? ... Could the sliders' functions be controlled via MIDI? Or just MIDI sync? Thanks! The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 06:23:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ACE83BEFE; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:23:35 -0600 From: Shayne Cafferata Subject: Alesis GuitarFx To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <45BD92E7.2010506@sasktel.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) Resent-Message-ID: <7lCmrB.A.e-F.zLZvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:23:47 +0000 (UTC) i noticed while reading the specs on this, that there is a decimate and a bit reducer effect. anyone know how these compare to the same effects on the bitrman? shayne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 08:48:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDA023BF02; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Tim Nelson Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: new vid online Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <45BDB4B5.5345.22B204@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <957767.68652.qm@web43111.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:48:09 +0000 (UTC) On 28 Jan 2007 at 8:20, Tim Nelson wrote: > While I was on YouTube to watch Nick's video, I > searched under 'looping'. Lots of interesting stuff; > Steve Lawson's and Arthur Lee Land's respective EDP > demos, stuff from Imogen Heap, etc. Youtube is the best thing since email, IMHO. So much to watch and listen to guitar-wise. I found Andy McKee and Eric Mongraine recently - not loopers, but SO inspiring.... All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 08:53:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 882813BF0C; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ItqVymwaEx/nYE83loe+47Jlj+XQwB81ljSjfIMm+kjAwitrfepuMbEUD6bDQDnNMdwKSVS+5YbD6QPnqkPTArjaZIc2OWmPEgbB/lciUbiN5en0UYBt+/gcUAA6fw9QESsBCVQ4xbVtN0T8i23pzoCK6hIbB3Luv1SbuavoBms= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:53:17 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:53:24 +0000 (UTC) >> On 26 jan 2007, at 21.21, JP Mercury wrote: >> >> > To answer your question on MIDI clock-- yes. As of 0.5.5, >> > Freewheeling can transmit MIDI clock. You have to enable it. By >> > default, Freewheeling comes configured with several MIDI outs, and >> > MIDI clock is sent to the first one. You can change all of that by >> > editing ~/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc (a hidden file on your Mac). >> >> On 1/26/07, Per Boysen wrote: >> Not even OSX Spotlight can find that file on this Mac. Any hints? > On 29 jan 2007, at 05.20, Jesse Chappell wrote: > If you've run the app, it should be there. Just open up a Terminal, > and type this: > open /Applications/TextEdit.app ~/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc > > But you're right, the Finder and OS X in general makes it very hard to > see hidden files beginning with '.' without using a terminal. > > jlc Thank you Jesse. But what does the text mean that this Terminal returns? > 2007-01-29 09:45:51.596 open[226] LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned > -10814 for application (null) urls file://localhost/Applications/ > TextEdit.app/, file://localhost/Users/ > appeldatorid/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc. As I understand it the Terminal simply detects the file at that location? But that is where it is already supposed to be and where I can't find it? Damn, I wish OS X had that nifty XP option "show hidden files" ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 12:12:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B46163BEFA; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ed Drake Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:12:06 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:12:12 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 29, 2007, at 3:53 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > As I understand it the Terminal simply detects the file at that > location? But that is where it is already supposed to be and where > I can't find it? Damn, I wish OS X had that nifty XP option "show > hidden files" ;-)) Per, Maybe this free mac utility called Tinkertool will help. I've used it to view hidden files on Mac OS X. Click show hidden files and relaunch the finder and all sorts of things will show up. I hope this helps! http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html Ed From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 12:28:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 650903BEFF; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 610618573 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C743A0.F0E0760F" Subject: RE: OT: tape (was Cds) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:28:11 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72579903@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: tape (was Cds) Thread-Index: AcdDn1Ra0J7zYhuZTXSMnohlHEf23Q== References: <45BD27AB.1090804@mhorse.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: "Daryl Shawn" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2007 12:28:12.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[F12A5460:01C743A0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:28:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C743A0.F0E0760F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>Tapes from the 50's are still playable...most people say audio cds = have a life of ten years, though cdr's are known to often go bad sooner. = As discussed a few weeks ago, the best solution is to store digital = stuff on hard drives.<< there really isn't one simple answer to this. all recorded media has = some flaw or other. tapes that have survived from the 40s & 50s are not = unusual, but things went pear-shaped in the 70s & 80s when the = manufacturers switched to synthetics instead of whale-derived oils & the = effects became apparent round about the time we wanted to reissue all = these recordings on cd.... & people (like me) who complain about the Fmax & bit-depth of cd being = inadequate, well, we're still happy to have something that seems a = little less vulnerable. even if it is a grainy snapshot of our precious = audio. in the final analysis, the best archive policy is proliferation. the = more copies you have of something, scattered around on different formats = & in different environments, the better the chance of recovering = something one day. there is a company now that has created a holographic storage device. = the cost of the media is around the same as recordable cd or dvd. the = drives are expensive at the moment, but I'm sure they'll be cheaper once = the development costs are recouped. http://www.inphase-technologies.com/ duncan. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C743A0.F0E0760F Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: OT: tape (was Cds)

>>Tapes from the 50's are still playable...most = people say audio cds have a life of ten years, though cdr's are known to = often go bad sooner. As discussed a few weeks ago, the best solution is = to store digital stuff on hard drives.<<

there really isn't one simple answer to this. all recorded media has = some flaw or other. tapes that have survived from the 40s & 50s are = not unusual, but things went pear-shaped in the 70s & 80s when the = manufacturers switched to synthetics instead of whale-derived oils & = the effects became apparent round about the time we wanted to reissue = all these recordings on cd....
& people (like me) who complain about the Fmax & bit-depth of cd = being inadequate, well, we're still happy to have something that seems a = little less vulnerable. even if it is a grainy snapshot of our precious = audio.
in the final analysis, the best archive policy is proliferation. the = more copies you have of something, scattered around on different formats = & in different environments, the better the chance of recovering = something one day.
there is a company now that has created a holographic storage device. = the cost of the media is around the same as recordable cd or dvd. the = drives are expensive at the moment, but I'm sure they'll be cheaper once = the development costs are recouped.

http://www.inphase-technolo= gies.com/

duncan.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C743A0.F0E0760F-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 12:53:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68DE43BED2; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=qNQx1y2LlFkESZXpr/XJmvqG0kaMe96HZEwcBlZHb47Y6W3O1V5YDb1xdXGqNZQBZf4pnnV/27UKgyTqinSq6dAGKoDOCAEK5W/dnh4OhL3tU9cQ8dWMxGOnzdZJefTTHb5rn/KQaFTS9opyUAPUBdhGtuUKJNi3WNB/AdAHro0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:53:35 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:53:41 +0000 (UTC) On 29 jan 2007, at 13.12, Ed Drake wrote: > Per, > > Maybe this free mac utility called Tinkertool will help. I've used > it to view hidden files on Mac OS X. Click show hidden files and > relaunch the finder and all sorts of things will show up. > > I hope this helps! > > http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html > > Ed Thanks Ed. Downloaded TinkerTool and I can now see and open the Freewheeling file needed to configure the looper. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 14:02:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9D873BEDE; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:thread-index:x-mimeole:message-id; b=ab7G9DVTmjvw+vES0tlG76B7GB0oC7eBY3L9dcF7sUTWUEJ8Nipabn3YGvHtmjVAR0jwgz04R4kxRgzeWMg4nR0tefaFM873suT0kWWt0aF6VJPTN/1CdGF1QnVZczm70/1RFA/O4MIg6Noj5kddjgRTaW6ra2Ope1M1Wa10Fgg= Reply-To: From: "Miles Ward" To: Subject: RE: Cds Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:05:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01C7436B.81DF86A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <96ec1fd83a21668abc879406f49b160b@glasswing.com> Thread-Index: AcdDKIVyF9PTjF0mS9ev6S55xQZIQwAhb4Eg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-ID: <45bdfe8a.2698837e.2b5d.1c01@mx.google.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:02:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C7436B.81DF86A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or you can do like Linus Torvalds says, take your work, zip it up with good ol' fashioned heavy encryption, rename the file "britneyspearstotallynekkid.mov" and upload on your preferred bittorrent/P2P network. Then your backups are only as reliable as a 17 year old boy's horniness. _____ From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:06 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cds tape sounds good. But tape sucks. I have a shelf full of 2" masters that are all goopy now. Lay not up treasures where moth and rust doth corrupt etc. Gold master DVDs and audio CDs are the closest thing we have to eternity right now... other than our imaginations. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 28-Jan-07, at 1:45 PM, David Gans wrote: At 12:36 PM -0800 1/3/07, samba - wrote: I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met at Lou Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media for archival storage. Would that be Fred Lieberman? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C7436B.81DF86A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Or you can do like Linus Torvalds = says, take your work, zip it up with good ol’ fashioned heavy = encryption, rename the file “britneyspearstotallynekkid.mov” and upload = on your preferred bittorrent/P2P network.  Then your backups are only as = reliable as a 17 year old boy’s horniness.

 


From: = Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, = 2007 2:06 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: = Cds

 

tape sounds = good. But tape sucks. I have a shelf full of 2" masters that are all goopy = now.

Lay not up treasures where moth and rust doth corrupt etc.

Gold master DVDs and audio CDs are the closest thing we have to eternity = right now... other than our imaginations.

richard sales
glassWing farm and studio
vancouver island, b.c.
800.545.6846
250.752.4816
www.glassWing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com
www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
On 28-Jan-07, at 1:45 PM, David Gans = wrote:

At 12:36 PM -0800 1/3/07, samba - = wrote:

I've was told by a very prominent ethnomusicologist who I met at = Lou Harrison's house that tape is still the prefered media for archival = storage.


Would that be Fred Lieberman?




--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland = CA 94610-2730
Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com

------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C7436B.81DF86A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 14:16:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 229D23BECF; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 420035909 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C743AF.FFB48B2A" Subject: RE: Alesis GuitarFx Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:15:59 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72579907@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Alesis GuitarFx Thread-Index: AcdDrxQtmJs117Q5TDmgEdqZWkL2pg== References: <45BD92E7.2010506@sasktel.net> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2007 14:15:59.0449 (UTC) FILETIME=[FFDEFC90:01C743AF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:16:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C743AF.FFB48B2A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable shayne- I've not tried these exact effects on my alesis bass-fx, but = what I will say is that for the buck, there is a lot of bang in these = almost-but-not-quite-toy pedals.=20 I love mine, & use it with an expression pedal plugged in for added = weirdness. d. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C743AF.FFB48B2A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Alesis GuitarFx

shayne- I've not tried these exact effects on my = alesis bass-fx, but what I will say is that for the buck, there is a lot = of bang in these almost-but-not-quite-toy pedals.
I love mine, & use it with an expression pedal plugged in for added = weirdness.

d.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C743AF.FFB48B2A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 14:30:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 609DD3BED6; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=SNu0oCE+FiEL7nw33ARTpvk2jpzcDzow6eZhudmRY+zE56SsSnNHcJ9pVo2X6IXVD0Kcy1uDDXYLbqDXWeCvgYVor7ZI0cg1MmY+sAcl/rzvmCj0Rlh4g08VJIKYItdsihI8D6g79eObNVgTIKRTTyGEX07RyHiiOiI7pA9Ny9o=; X-YMail-OSG: ESWNDTMVM1lCSuZiKOZ5DmZ1_k4Vo_EBkOziYZmvGBNAzO6YqFFjI2Y39XAHI0hIAmHSvU6jRJ0b5sMl6ft_LG1OzRE.oC9bGgfIkF1UjIgyI_lCCyc- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:30:35 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: ot: old topics: amps/cdrs... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070129140254.E9C2C3BED8@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1099736480-1170081035=:21432" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <264251.21432.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:30:37 +0000 (UTC) --0-1099736480-1170081035=:21432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i'll pipe in late to these: the amp debate-my old 50 watt amp shot craps, debated having it fixed again (the last fix didn't last a yr, not happy w/ local store), so i decided to take a chance on one of the small practice amps i've seen--got the 10w marshall, and i must say i think it sounds good, way better than my 70's era no-name 50 watt amp. yes, i know its solid state, the marshall-but it supposedly has some circuitry that emulates tubes, bla bla. i don't really know about that, b/c i've never owned a tube amp, but i think the little marshall sounds pretty good. like the clean channel most, but the distorted channel is loud (as all the h-c.com reviews said)...since in the last 2 months i've changed almost all my gear (effects,looper, preamps, etc) and have done just a smidge of recording, and listened, i will say that i think the sound is in your hands/you....i have different gear, for better or worse, i think i still sound the same for the most part.....granted, w/o my dedicated IPS rack thing, i can't get some of the weird harmonies that i used to like, but my simpler gear can get close, but i can still make some weird sounds.... cdrs-well, i've got my 1st recordings to cdr that are now 5 yrs old, and they still sound good i think, but i do keep them stored away out of light and all, and am careful to them. and i have a few cds that are close to 20 yrs old and they also sound good, but i'm carefull w/ them also. i also have some of my very first tapes of albums from the early 80's when i was in college, and they also still sound good to my ear. my 2 cents...s--- --------------------------------- Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. --0-1099736480-1170081035=:21432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
i'll pipe in late to these:
the amp debate-my old 50 watt amp shot craps, debated having it fixed again (the last fix didn't last a yr, not happy w/ local store), so i decided to take a chance on one of the small practice amps i've seen--got the 10w marshall, and i must say i think it sounds good, way better than my 70's era no-name 50 watt amp. yes, i know its solid state, the marshall-but it supposedly has some circuitry that emulates tubes, bla bla. i don't really know about that, b/c i've never owned a tube amp, but i think the little marshall sounds pretty good. like the clean channel most, but the distorted channel is loud (as all the h-c.com reviews said)...since in the last 2 months i've changed almost all my gear (effects,looper, preamps, etc) and have done just a smidge of recording, and listened, i will say that i think the sound is in your hands/you....i have different gear, for better or worse, i think i still sound the same for the most part.....granted, w/o my dedicated IPS rack thing, i can't get some of the weird harmonies that i used to like, but my simpler gear can get close, but i can still make some weird sounds....
 
cdrs-well, i've got my 1st recordings to cdr that are now 5 yrs old, and they still sound good i think, but i do keep them stored away out of light and all, and am careful to them. and i have a few cds that are close to 20 yrs old and they also sound good, but i'm carefull w/ them also. i also have some of my very first tapes of albums from the early 80's when i was in college, and they also still sound good to my ear.
my 2 cents...s---


Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. --0-1099736480-1170081035=:21432-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 15:36:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F4013BED2; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C743BB.3F299179" Subject: Switchblade 8B for sale Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:36:26 -0000 Message-ID: <050DFCE630CFDE47A2E4EF15C44C263301062CFD@E03MVY2-UKDY.domain1.systemhost.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Switchblade 8B for sale Thread-Index: AcdDuz0d+2n/nkmyS1qbvKgArkWG4w== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2007 15:36:30.0474 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F62E6A0:01C743BB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:36:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C743BB.3F299179 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I'm Milco from Italy =20 Before I put it on sale on Ebay, I'd like to know if anybody is interested in buying my switchblade 8B http://www.soundsculpture.com/products/switchblade_models.htm#8b =20 I bought it in April 2006 (Warranty: 2 years) and I paid 1150 EUR for it=20 =20 I'm selling it for 750 EUR (shipped cost not included) =20 Regards Milco Montagna http://xoomer.alice.it/milco.montagna/ =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C743BB.3F299179 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi  All, I'm Milco from = Italy
 
Before  I =20 put  it on = sale on Ebay, I'd like to know if  anybody is=20 interested  in buying my = switchblade=20 8B
http://www.soundsculpture.com/products/switchblade_models.htm#8b
 
I bought it in April 2006 (Warranty:=20 2 years) and I pai 1150 € =20 for it 
 
 I'm selling = it=20 for 750 € (shipped cost not=20 included)
 
Regards
Milco=20 Montagna
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C743BB.3F299179-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 17:06:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1065E3BED8; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:06:11 EST Subject: Re: new vid online To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bd3.ea36acc.32ef8383_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:06:30 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bd3.ea36acc.32ef8383_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/28/07 11:37:20 AM, nick@12testing.net writes: > looping isn't > very visual, not the way I do it anyway ;) > nick.....put your AIR FX up on a boom mic stand and play it with a small hand held mirror, dance and wear a tin foil hat.....that would get me on my feet screamin".....:).....i'm serious about the mirror, my air fx blew up, i have no idea why.....but i have taken to playing my air synth with a small mirror, it seems much more sensitive.....i might stick a small mirror on the headstock of my guitar and use that to trigger the air synth and keep both of my hands free, anything to look like i am actually doing something while "preforming".....and if truth be told, a tin foil hat is the greatest way to invite an audience to come on in to one's happy little world.....michael aka mr. dynamic www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_bd3.ea36acc.32ef8383_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/28/07 11:37:20 AM, nick@12testing.net writes:


looping isn't
very visual, not the way I do it anyway ;)

nick.....put your AIR FX up on a boom mic stand and play it with a small han= d held mirror, dance and wear a tin foil hat.....that would get me on my fee= t screamin".....:).....i'm serious about the mirror, my air fx blew up, i ha= ve no idea why.....but i have taken to playing my air synth with a small mir= ror, it seems much more sensitive.....i might stick a small mirror on the he= adstock of my guitar and use that to trigger the air synth and keep both of=20= my hands free, anything to look like i am actually doing something while "pr= eforming".....and if truth be told, a tin foil hat is the greatest way to in= vite an audience to come on in to one's happy little world.....michael aka m= r. dynamic

www.ct-collective.com
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11
--part1_bd3.ea36acc.32ef8383_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 17:28:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E50B3BEDE; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <34981.167.83.10.20.1170091683.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:28:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: EDP_what does this sound like? From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi Folks!! Replaced the pots on the EDP and it worked flawlessly for 24 hours. Now, the signal is very unclean and the Output knob does absolutely nothing...Perhaps one of my solder joints is bad or does it sound worse than that? (no pun intended) Thanks, Plish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 18:38:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D67E43BEEC; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" , Subject: 01.30.07 @ the PiNG > WALLY JERICHO + URM Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:38:05 -0500 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000101c743d4$9dc83560$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:38:10 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 01.30.07 . The PiNG Presents WALLY JERICHO & URM @ the UNDERGROUND downstairs @ the DRAKE HOTEL 1150 Queen St. W @ Beaconsfield . W of Ossington . E of Dufferin Tuesday January 30th . 8PM - 11PM . PWYC (5$ suggested) . For the 1st PiNG of 07, we welcome back our old friend Wally Jericho, the 1st performer at the 1st PiNG way way back in August of 1999. Wally's been bursting with creativity lately and is busting to break out his new rig of portable yet powerful sonic toys to treat the PiNG faithful to a sampling of the musical ideas which have arrived of late to Jericho Station. We're expecting lots of looping fun as the man with the horn (and many other instruments) returns to the PiNG stage for first time in two years with not one but two loopers. (One can never have enough loopers in one's rig!) http://www.wallyjericho.com . Also on the bill, URM plugs the PC gaming accessories into his laptop music box to perform a special set in surround sound, featuring material from the Shadows of Light show which was recently on AMBiENT PiNG RADiO. Utilizing only a single laptop filled to the brim with a virtual mountain of soft synths and sound toys, URM's Jamie Todd (also of dreamSTATE, NOiNO and SADU) will take us on a 3-D quadraphonic sonic journey which explores alien mutant psycho jazz, dark ambience, spacey soundscapes and sequencer-driven pulse. http://www.urm.ca . Before and Between Sets we'll be featuring more excerpts from "Kairos" the splendid new DVD from Steve Roach featuring his magnificent music merged with imagery from a variety of visual artists: Lynn Augustein, Steve Lazur, Steven Rooke, John Wadsworth and John Vega with Roger King. A gorgeous synthesis of sound and visions. http://www.steveroach.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 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The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, chillout, trip hop, dream pop, downtempo, space, darkwave, drone and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com Tune in anytime to AMBiENT PING RADiO at http://www.ambientpingradio.com ViSiT ping things for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 21:19:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCD4D3BEE6; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <000801c743e6$681e6530$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: Subject: weird clicks Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:45:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C743EE.C5E8E340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:19:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C743EE.C5E8E340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable normally i would like this but... after a rewire of my rack i now have a weird electronic clicking when i = play guitar EVEN IF THECHANNEL IS MUTED!!!=20 Its really odd, but im getting more clicks the louder the playing, so if = i hit one load note, theres lots of clicks at first, then they get = further apart, and then when sound is almost dead just the occasional = click; Bit about my guitare.. and baritone fitted with midi pickup going to = GR30 and a fernandez sustainer pickup pwered by a warl wart that has a = cable taped to my hex cable and entering the gutar via the unused space = where the old jack used to be... in the rack..? oh lots of hissy crackly crud... but when WHEN i = play??????? mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com He writes for www.furthernoise.org=20 and works at www.transformlearning.com i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=3D1843107= 47 thank-you -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C743EE.C5E8E340-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 22:43:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A1763BEE0; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Q7ZFR6aG8ZXwTzfYSaoGBsh+W6ZdwA7FsgQqciZKXBXHQGsBqb1RqhWN4nfwdkLGHDr1Ec+iPY3h0x/C9MAGtN0gcUitzZ2y1/F0U9kT8ivHeQMnTPAm6OxPvjFpSHsryFVdz+a6HKqU09x5a+oTnpLgAcgSWIomQ17SIMWY8wQ=; X-YMail-OSG: UliSpSgVM1lr0O_UncO09jeQRztGGmmNmmX2QIvTm6wl6HOV_i.lIELugGJiH6YnYazzzApABhTn5BEHLEpdEFqNSJHtcTWeQCcxQAIHpxN5Jmwm0PbWnlq7lypZL6_PWYe33q470mmnIpo- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:43:31 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: weird clicks To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000801c743e6$681e6530$5a01a8c0@mark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <548209.1563.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:43:33 +0000 (UTC) It's a very long shot... but one time this exact thing happened to me. I took everything apart and put it together twice with no improvement. Then I realized I had one of my effects devices set to "auto sample." It had sampled me plugging in my guitar and was set to trigger the sample when ever it got an audio signal. Luckily this happened at a gig so I could look especially stupid in front of my audience. good luck, Mark --- "markfrancombe.com" wrote: > normally i would like this but... > > after a rewire of my rack i now have a weird > electronic clicking when i play guitar EVEN IF > THECHANNEL IS MUTED!!! > Its really odd, but im getting more clicks the > louder the playing, so if i hit one load note, > theres lots of clicks at first, then they get > further apart, and then when sound is almost dead > just the occasional click; > Bit about my guitare.. and baritone fitted with midi > pickup going to GR30 and a fernandez sustainer > pickup pwered by a warl wart that has a cable taped > to my hex cable and entering the gutar via the > unused space where the old jack used to be... > > in the rack..? oh lots of hissy crackly crud... but > when WHEN i play??????? > > > > > > mark francombe > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com > He writes for www.furthernoise.org > and works at www.transformlearning.com > i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=184310747 > thank-you > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for > private users. > It has removed 6583 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their > emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 29 23:25:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 024483BED3; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Nemoguitt@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:24:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: airFX Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <45BE8248.27887.157568@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:25:01 +0000 (UTC) On 29 Jan 2007 at 12:06, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > nick.....put your AIR FX up on a boom mic stand With my covers band I do that, so the singer can "improve" my solos with the ring mod & pitch effect. I tried it near my knees and various other parts of the anatomy, but feel the hand is best. In order to have some kind of control in my loopy sets, it rests on a table, as does my arm, so I can move in and out slowly and *almost* under control. It's a great device and so sad they're not developing it further. All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 01:32:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD2E83BEEC; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CBvZZDIBMNnHzk9x08wnzTymoD/gxMdKI82tUqYHcJQRAwLTclGFtYfXnx4cPucrkGpWy+ynpVVQhs4knKUeJk22yXUlN+LgicXu4vfmMsKGPAo3x9vqNR4VJvLGTvd2G9p++QP8FVvpfPWnAHOKSYE2f4OnBx3XikylcYtmGxs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:32:09 -0500 From: "Jesse Chappell" Sender: essejlc@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4ed7541f3ecfe5cc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:32:11 +0000 (UTC) On 1/29/07, Per Boysen wrote: > Thanks Ed. Downloaded TinkerTool and I can now see and open the > Freewheeling file needed to configure the looper. Just for completeness, I'll point out that JP predicted this issue and included an application in his latest DMG that opens the right file with TextEdit for you when run. jlc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 07:14:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 600193BEDC; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20070129211918.563853BEEE@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Imogen&Zoe Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:14:33 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01c7443e$4b23d890$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-reply-to: <20070129211918.563853BEEE@arsenic.violacea.com> Thread-Index: AcdEO564y9wag+GYRuO0loX4oEWehwAAKi2A Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:14:37 +0000 (UTC) I had a truly mindblowing evening yesterday here in Cologne / Germany seeing Imogen Heap supported by the lovely Zoe Keating. If you haven't seen Imogen live, be sure to do so if she tours near you. Such an incredible amount of talent! She's not only a gifted singer but also a great instrumentalist and live-looper - I have rarely seen anyone using their computer and looping gear so effortlessly and so seamlessly integrated into the show, and some of the pieces were quite complex and sophisticated. As a live looper, I felt very close to Zoe Keating when she created her unique cello loops. What a great musician. I hope I can see her perform again sometimes, maybe on some looping festival. -Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 08:01:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A81A3BEE0; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Mb0JeTipTf/Bdthq3YjkemAas2Xmzvn7tUmOiW1MPvZfwZL+/6oTgaGTgYePDzoMwkkZx1dq5BhdC1lhgZEheE4Qmzcvi8v+k51cGGoH37movCxR3TgKSQcGRYdLLlqiQ/42LJLv0AtrNan2k4RpH7aCmW2Iwoi89Q0PUQH+uOk= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:01:03 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: San Francisco recommendations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 344c732cf542b9f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would love to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also useful! cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 08:22:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC53E3BEE8; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=HR87LEh4zg2LYOe2cTj3fMFW/OrWridPHz9ZNvGYt5H9Q7Z8Ynn4SCYGsRXbt+iExPTC0KR2qvNtzd6J2CQnG9V00pS6AMfU110qhkzJ3m8QuxNWphAyPS1jez1lOmgaY1rHLCGWNN6Mve36q1SiK9skXC2464tsmFDb2fseCHs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4355A2AF-33FC-4B5D-B5F3-296A5BED8443@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:22:17 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <1T8Tf.A.Vn._AwvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:22:23 +0000 (UTC) > On 1/29/07, Per Boysen wrote: >> Thanks Ed. Downloaded TinkerTool and I can now see and open the >> Freewheeling file needed to configure the looper. > On 30 jan 2007, at 02.32, Jesse Chappell wrote: > Just for completeness, I'll point out that JP predicted this issue and > included an application in his latest DMG that opens the right file > with TextEdit for you when run. Thanks. I downloaded it and found the new tool. I like that better than using TinkerTool because it annoys me that I should by mistake delete some files important for the system ;-)) Will keep TinkerTool, though. Might be good to have around some day. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 08:28:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B584D3BEE6; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=WTzEM+hw2xnUGJ5mpdJKZL2RiAEHcqU6Xvn4qQ32DW+ApVidoFA4hWR5zKSPPAcBVisC88IOkak3ddGZZa6/qRERRF8ic7yhvnxKLvdDvJqvGHMU/8ZSmYzqGQgvyEqJ+cm7YFzKIR5x7uZfZ0CEwltxN8jn0fjbsxTSiq0I6kI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: San Francisco recommendations? Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:28:25 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:28:29 +0000 (UTC) On 30 jan 2007, at 09.01, Os wrote: > I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would love > to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've > actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also > useful! I've only been to SF for one day, or rather night, of my life but that was a great night at The Luggage Store. http://www.luggagestoregallery.org/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 09:20:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADA283BEF6; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HGJMZgDulHOOTC9PbZHCzkLxl7Y61wDxfHnq9h+lRaB9PkAhzOs3HRrVF8fskMiNiEec8SDiO14dIOEVCzqqOxktoKvO8lwajvj0SRp1iwOPzkT6mscRb4fIvoZaMbZEVWnvx3thypIfVS4skBHdCY0a5kh7clCn5mVMieCZeck= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:20:43 +0100 From: "Arne R. Skage jr" Reply-To: arne@skage.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: weird clicks In-Reply-To: <000801c743e6$681e6530$5a01a8c0@mark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21265_3780753.1170148843862" References: <000801c743e6$681e6530$5a01a8c0@mark> Resent-Message-ID: <5wza0.A.bTC.u3wvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:20:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21265_3780753.1170148843862 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Mark. it sounds like a grounding issue, where you get a current , check for groundloops in your system, if it worket ok before try to remember how the setup was then, groundingvise..... try groundlifting all fx incl. the power to the guitar and leave the amp (if you use one) grounded. does the problem occure everywhere you set up your gear? - it might be an issue in one place and no problem somewhere else.... (external) hope this helps Arne www.skage.com 2007/1/29, markfrancombe.com : > > normally i would like this but... > > after a rewire of my rack i now have a weird electronic clicking when i > play guitar EVEN IF THECHANNEL IS MUTED!!! > Its really odd, but im getting more clicks the louder the playing, so if i > hit one load note, theres lots of clicks at first, then they get further > apart, and then when sound is almost dead just the occasional click; > Bit about my guitare.. and baritone fitted with midi pickup going to GR30 > and a fernandez sustainer pickup pwered by a warl wart that has a cable > taped to my hex cable and entering the gutar via the unused space where the > old jack used to be... > > in the rack..? oh lots of hissy crackly crud... but when WHEN i > play??????? > > > > > > mark francombe > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com > He writes for www.furthernoise.org > and works at www.transformlearning.com > i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=184310747 > thank-you > ------------------------------ > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 6583 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > -- Arne R. 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Hi Mark.
 
it sounds like a grounding issue, where you get a current , check for groundloops in your system, if it worket ok before try to remember how the setup was then, groundingvise..... try groundlifting all fx incl. the power to the guitar and leave the amp (if you use one) grounded.  does the problem occure everywhere you set up your gear? -  it might be an issue in one place and  no problem somewhere else.... (external)
 
hope this helps
 
 
Arne
 

 
2007/1/29, markfrancombe.com <mark@markfrancombe.com>:
normally i would like this but...
 
after a rewire of my rack i now have a weird electronic clicking when i play guitar EVEN IF THECHANNEL IS MUTED!!!
Its really odd, but im getting more clicks the louder the playing, so if i hit one load note, theres lots of clicks at first, then they get further apart, and then when sound is almost dead just the occasional click;
Bit about my guitare.. and baritone fitted with midi pickup going to GR30 and a fernandez sustainer pickup pwered by a warl wart that has  a cable taped to my hex cable and entering the gutar via the unused space where the old jack used to be...
 
in the rack..? oh lots of hissy crackly crud... but when WHEN i play???????
 
 
 
 
 
mark francombe
marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com
He writes for www.furthernoise.org
and works at www.transformlearning.com
i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=184310747
 thank-you

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www.skage.com ------=_Part_21265_3780753.1170148843862-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 09:22:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47E143BEE8; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bJZNFZY5rBG01DCcl8Q1WX52WYF/yKbB3tCtCu66fOQezb70DrzK5ahlYHW34rd/RznHITIhDo7GY9ce2r3W12OwmgDSW3zzHPmBLZ0pHkI01pe5UxTeKL5YfoGjGzFU/yyICGDKWt3hycSNOavT5Pc8PeOHsBCD+dQmOHpTIS8= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:22:21 +0100 From: "Arne R. Skage jr" Reply-To: arne@skage.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: weird clicks In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21273_16694558.1170148941092" References: <000801c743e6$681e6530$5a01a8c0@mark> Resent-Message-ID: <_oerf.A.2bC.P5wvFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:22:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21273_16694558.1170148941092 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline oops that should read: "where you get a current *buildup"* 2007/1/30, Arne R. Skage jr : > > Hi Mark. > > it sounds like a grounding issue, where you get a current , check for > groundloops in your system, if it worket ok before try to remember how the > setup was then, groundingvise..... try groundlifting all fx incl. the power > to the guitar and leave the amp (if you use one) grounded. does the problem > occure everywhere you set up your gear? - it might be an issue in one place > and no problem somewhere else.... (external) > > hope this helps > > > Arne > > www.skage.com > > > 2007/1/29, markfrancombe.com : > > > > normally i would like this but... > > > > after a rewire of my rack i now have a weird electronic clicking when i > > play guitar EVEN IF THECHANNEL IS MUTED!!! > > Its really odd, but im getting more clicks the louder the playing, so if > > i hit one load note, theres lots of clicks at first, then they get further > > apart, and then when sound is almost dead just the occasional click; > > Bit about my guitare.. and baritone fitted with midi pickup going to > > GR30 and a fernandez sustainer pickup pwered by a warl wart that has a > > cable taped to my hex cable and entering the gutar via the unused space > > where the old jack used to be... > > > > in the rack..? oh lots of hissy crackly crud... but when WHEN i > > play??????? > > > > > > > > > > > > mark francombe > > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com > > He writes for www.furthernoise.org > > and works at www.transformlearning.com > > i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT > > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=184310747 > > > > thank-you > > ------------------------------ > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 6583 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > > > > -- > Arne R. Skage jr. > > 91157204 > arne@skage.com > www.skage.com -- Arne R. Skage jr. 91157204 arne@skage.com www.skage.com ------=_Part_21273_16694558.1170148941092 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline oops  that should read: "where you get a current buildup"

2007/1/30, Arne R. Skage jr <arneskage@gmail.com>:
Hi Mark.
 
it sounds like a grounding issue, where you get a current , check for groundloops in your system, if it worket ok before try to remember how the setup was then, groundingvise..... try groundlifting all fx incl. the power to the guitar and leave the amp (if you use one) grounded.  does the problem occure everywhere you set up your gear? -  it might be an issue in one place and  no problem somewhere else.... (external)
 
hope this helps
 
 
Arne
 

 
2007/1/29, markfrancombe.com < mark@markfrancombe.com>:
normally i would like this but...
 
after a rewire of my rack i now have a weird electronic clicking when i play guitar EVEN IF THECHANNEL IS MUTED!!!
Its really odd, but im getting more clicks the louder the playing, so if i hit one load note, theres lots of clicks at first, then they get further apart, and then when sound is almost dead just the occasional click;
Bit about my guitare.. and baritone fitted with midi pickup going to GR30 and a fernandez sustainer pickup pwered by a warl wart that has  a cable taped to my hex cable and entering the gutar via the unused space where the old jack used to be...
 
in the rack..? oh lots of hissy crackly crud... but when WHEN i play???????
 
 
 
 
 
mark francombe
marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com
He writes for www.furthernoise.org
and works at www.transformlearning.com
i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=184310747
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 14:07:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 683A63BEFA; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: nico spahni Subject: video of live looping performance Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:06:43 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:07:01 +0000 (UTC) I've just posted an extract of a recent improvised looping performance to youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPI6a61U4SM Cheers, Nico From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 14:23:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAD513BF07; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-733769416 Message-Id: <43CAC030-DAD1-4CB6-900D-0BF74E358791@skeletonhome.com> From: bruce tovsky Subject: Re: San Francisco recommendations? Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:23:33 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-733769416 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed i second per, i've played at luggage and it's a beautiful space, with a nice sound system, and a great music series. matt davignon on this list runs a great series there. i'm sure he will chime in... 21 grand in oakland is also a place worth checking out. cheers bruce On Jan 30, 2007, at 3:28 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 30 jan 2007, at 09.01, Os wrote: > >> I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would >> love >> to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've >> actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also >> useful! > > > I've only been to SF for one day, or rather night, of my life but > that was a great night at The Luggage Store. > http://www.luggagestoregallery.org/ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick --Apple-Mail-6-733769416 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII i second per, i've played at = luggage and it's a beautiful space, with a nice sound system, and a = great music series. matt davignon on this list runs a great series = there. i'm sure he will chime in...
21 grand in oakland is also a = place worth checking out.
cheers
bruce

On Jan 30, 2007, = at 3:28 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

On 30 jan 2007, at 09.01, Os wrote:

I've got a week long work trip = to SF at the start of March. Would love
to hear = recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've
actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time = recommendations also
useful!
=


I've = only been to SF for one day, or rather night, of my life but that was a = great night at The Luggage Store.

Greetings from Sweden

Per = Boysen
www.boysen.se = (Swedish)
www.looproom.com = (international)
http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest = music release)


=

bruce tovsky

www.skeletonhome.com


=

"Reality is that which, when = you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

Philip K. Dick

=

= --Apple-Mail-6-733769416-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 15:02:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A94313BEFE; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=F9wUCQmwfT8I64Iz642uvXLR2q/C/n5S7XXd5vKBcxn6pEED+o526xXizvPXxM1nD6+duMC1S2Luy3rHyKcblCBh+iJ4Q1Osd3go/f+9Lhm+SbsThh63yokoM3vU2oarADSPFHap+rQdMy8XpwUOq3IP7fejApXDA4qo/JRjLFI=; X-YMail-OSG: q5nXqAAVM1naPbwhUojaERbJ1gy2k97itvQ3kY7dNjXnqKMiHnsMgSma.smvptCHaWhxNkSALL84MEtU1G96hyWOKk7TwpjEfy7q7IomfG7kravupOjI7CtBdx7j0Cc9zGPxadhBbiGS Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:02:25 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Vedr. video of live looping performance To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <59818.15330.qm@web26201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! Nice ambient looping ! Please tell about your gear and how you use it ? best regards Rune Fagereng. Norway --- nico spahni skrev: > I've just posted an extract of a recent improvised > looping performance > to youtube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPI6a61U4SM > > Cheers, > > Nico > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 15:05:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A47D3BF0C; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <000801c743e6$681e6530$5a01a8c0@mark> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-736295620 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: weird clicks Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:05:40 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <8PyOwD.A.mKG.S71vFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:05:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-736295620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed If that doesn't work I'd go back to jump street and plug stuff in one =20= at a time and see when it happens. For me this kind of sound is =20 usually digital clock, but it doesn't sound like you have multiple =20 digital devices running. Oh! And also I've had this problem with my =20= old Samplecell when it gets too warm. I reboot and it goes away. This is why I'm so reluctant to change ANYTHING in my studio these =20 days. Much less upgrade. It's a precarious house of cards that, when =20 working, is glorious. But upgrade time is coming and I'm loathing it =20= already. Enjoyed your music Arne. The Runt lap steel looks like a relative of =20= the old Rickenbacker. I am sort of looking at lap steels now. Supro? =20= Old Rickenbacker? I have a friend that has an old Supro that I think =20= he might sell me. I wish I knew more about the sound qualities of the =20= different steels. I'd rather not have to buy twenty to find THE ONE... =20= which is what I've done with guitars. But a pedal steel player friend =20= say the old Ricks have the sound I'd be looking for. Having my hands full just playing regular guitar I'm not on the fast =20 track in this quest... but it is a recurring dream. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 30-Jan-07, at 1:20 AM, Arne R. Skage jr wrote: > Hi Mark. > =A0 > it sounds like a grounding issue, where you get a current=A0, check = for =20 > groundloops in your system, if it worket ok before try to remember how = =20 > the setup was then, groundingvise..... try groundlifting all fx incl. =20= > the power to the guitar=A0and leave the amp (if you use one) = grounded.=A0 =20 > does the problem occure everywhere you set up your gear? -=A0 it might = =20 > be an issue in one place and=A0 no problem somewhere else.... = (external) > =A0 > hope this helps > =A0 > =A0 > Arne > =A0 > www.skage.com > > =A0 > 2007/1/29, markfrancombe.com : normally i =20 > would like this but... >> =A0 >> after a rewire of my rack i now have a weird electronic clicking when = =20 >> i play guitar EVEN IF THECHANNEL IS MUTED!!! >> Its really odd, but im getting more clicks the louder the playing, so = =20 >> if i hit one load note, theres lots of clicks at first, then they get = =20 >> further apart, and then when sound is almost dead just the occasional = =20 >> click; >> Bit about my guitare.. and baritone fitted with midi pickup going to =20= >> GR30 and a fernandez sustainer pickup pwered by a warl wart that has=A0= =20 >> a cable taped to my hex cable and entering the gutar via the unused =20= >> space where the old jack used to be... >> =A0 >> in the rack..? oh lots of hissy crackly crud... but when WHEN i =20 >> play??????? >> =A0 >> =A0 >> =A0 >> =A0 >> =A0 >> mark francombe >> marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com >> He writes for www.furthernoise.org >> and works at www.transformlearning.com >> i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT >> http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?=20 >> id=3D184310747 >> =A0thank-you >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 6583 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > > --=20 > Arne R. Skage jr. > > 91157204 > arne@skage.com > www.skage.com=20= --Apple-Mail-1-736295620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 If that doesn't work I'd go back to jump street and plug stuff in one at a time and see when it happens. For me this kind of sound is usually digital clock, but it doesn't sound like you have multiple digital devices running. Oh! And also I've had this problem with my old Samplecell when it gets too warm. I reboot and it goes away. This is why I'm so reluctant to change ANYTHING in my studio these days. Much less upgrade. It's a precarious house of cards that, when working, is glorious. But upgrade time is coming and I'm loathing it already. Enjoyed your music Arne. The Runt lap steel looks like a relative of the old Rickenbacker. I am sort of looking at lap steels now. Supro?=20= Old Rickenbacker? I have a friend that has an old Supro that I think he might sell me. I wish I knew more about the sound qualities of the different steels. I'd rather not have to buy twenty to find THE ONE... which is what I've done with guitars. But a pedal steel player friend say the old Ricks have the sound I'd be looking for. =20 Having my hands full just playing regular guitar I'm not on the fast track in this quest... but it is a recurring dream.=20 Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 30-Jan-07, at 1:20 AM, Arne R. Skage jr wrote: Hi Mark. =A0 it sounds like a grounding issue, where you get a current=A0, check for groundloops in your system, if it worket ok before try to remember how the setup was then, groundingvise..... try groundlifting all fx incl. the power to the guitar=A0and leave the amp (if you use one) grounded.=A0 does the problem occure everywhere you set up your gear? -=A0 it might be an issue in one place and=A0 no problem somewhere else.... (external) =A0 hope this helps =A0 =A0 Arne =A0 0000,0000,EEEEwww.skage.com =A0 2007/1/29, 0000,0000,EEEEmarkfrancombe.com = <<0000,0000,EEEEmark@markfrancombe.com>: Arialnormally i would like this but... =A0 Arialafter a rewire of my rack i now have a weird electronic clicking when i play guitar EVEN IF THECHANNEL IS MUTED!!! ArialIts really odd, but im getting more clicks the louder the playing, so if i hit one load note, theres lots of clicks at first, then they get further apart, and then when sound is almost dead just the occasional = click; ArialBit about my guitare.. and baritone fitted with midi pickup going to GR30 and a fernandez sustainer pickup pwered by a warl wart that has=A0 a cable taped to my hex cable and entering the gutar via the unused space where the old jack used to be... =A0 Arialin the rack..? oh lots of hissy crackly crud... but when WHEN i play??????? =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Arialmark = francombe Arialmarks website is at = 0000,0000,EEEEwww.markfrancombe.com ArialHe writes for 0000,0000,EEEEwww.furthernoise.org = Arialand works at = 0000,0000,EEEEwww.transformlearning.com Ariali Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC = AT = Arial0000,0000,EEEEhttp://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=3D18431= 0747 = Arial=A0thank-you Arial I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. ArialIt has removed 6583 spam emails to date. ArialPaying users do not have this message in their emails. ArialTry 0000,0000,EEEESPAMfighter for free = now! --=20 Arne R. Skage jr. 91157204 0000,0000,EEEEarne@skage.com 0000,0000,EEEE www.skage.com = --Apple-Mail-1-736295620-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 15:17:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F0BD3BF0F; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45BF617A.7010507@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:17:14 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: San Francisco recommendations? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Burmese food! My favorite restaurant in the world - Burma Super Star, at 4th Ave and Clement St. There's always a wait, so do takeout or go in the middle of the day. Clement street is an interesting walk, lots of East Asian shops and restaurants. make sure to check out the Mission too, especially Valencia St between 16th and 24th. Musicwise, in addition to the ones the others have mentioned, a few rock clubs that sometimes have edgier music: the Hemlock, Bottom of the Hill, 12 Galaxies. Coolest venue is the Great American Music Hall. There's also a series called Godwaffle Noise Pancakes, at various venues, which is insanely noisy music accompanied by...pancakes. I miss the Bay. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Hi, > > I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would love > to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've > actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also > useful! > > > cheers, > os. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 16:01:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 613943BF02; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ryP3xiEurfNfmov6SYYzXTMwQwKZ5A808i0Avkhkxv+yy+GicCIRtnYdvEugarPrYSUjOZELqwJkXSDcYBwwRMvGQXs31IEg2OY/4pHyCtbLG6IS8mMlV5cHuUF41szF7rayYnaFhEBtl2vElJv3DHxcMICh0dx0GtHLsbH6Fi8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> References: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: video of live looping performance Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:01:27 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:01:34 +0000 (UTC) On 30 jan 2007, at 15.06, nico spahni wrote: > I've just posted an extract of a recent improvised looping > performance to youtube: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPI6a61U4SM That was a cool idea with all those candles covering the floor! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 16:58:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE95C3BEDE; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:58:34 EST Subject: "TRANSITION" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c3e.e77d8a0.32f0d33a_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:58:42 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c3e.e77d8a0.32f0d33a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SCOTT HANSON continues to amaze me!.....his newest cd "TRANSITION" furthers his quest for improvisational new sounds.....i love the incorporation of the "RADIO" into his music, as if he needs to look outside of himself for more inspiration.....keeping his kit limited has not in any way impeaded his full blown approach to music.....i just wonder what goes on in his mind as he plays and i am thankful that he gets to share his vision with us.....thanks scott.....keep on looping!.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_c3e.e77d8a0.32f0d33a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SCOTT HANSON continues to amaze me!....= .his newest cd "TRANSITION" furthers his quest for improvisational new sound= s.....i love the incorporation of the "RADIO" into his music, as if he needs= to look outside of himself for more inspiration.....keeping his kit limited= has not in any way impeaded his full blown approach to music.....i just won= der what goes on in his mind as he plays and i am thankful that he gets to s= hare his vision with us.....thanks scott.....keep on looping!.....michael


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--part1_c3e.e77d8a0.32f0d33a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 17:27:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A31D53BEF4; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701301727.l0UHRcUA058456@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: San Francisco recommendations? Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:27:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: AcdERMskhPjVHzGuRIeAQYr8jwPKmAATt2Rw X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Hey OS, would love to see you, we are about 1 and 1/2 hour drive south of SF. We could either come meet you in the city or you could come down to Santa Cruz. Would be great to see you. Bill -----Original Message----- From: expertsleepers@googlemail.com [mailto:expertsleepers@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Os Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:01 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: San Francisco recommendations? Hi, I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would love to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also useful! cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 18:31:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AFAD3BEDF; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: wbuWVmsVM1kqm0Kq5PnPmBd5WxUjC5jV62OXXY3BCZaorIVbEqW.bDskkOzhGGMLfBiNGgdPBWcI0_EmKdMgCsWaGzpvXX_hSpI9oaKighstjKsvdGU- Message-ID: <45BF8E94.1050500@minds-eye.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:29:40 -0800 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: San Francisco recommendations? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:31:45 +0000 (UTC) I always recommend this to anyone going to San Francisco though I've never been (I learned of it only after I left SF :-( http://www.audium.org/omhpp.cgi?src=intro.hpp It sounds like an awesome experience and its been around for quite some time. Anyone in the Bay Area ever checked this out? Kevin > Hi, > > I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would love > to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've > actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also > useful! > > > cheers, > os. > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 18:36:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 066DC3BEF5; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=evFFDiYzS2qfuVBoZYJT5Pp2o9wUzh0F9voedjqr2XIraDfF1CpSpPYFTgs5Kem9fAQxS/9jJ9Tp07xc5BCBUgOxXRjD/LOte2r3WKRaV41DABFp2ShpKqtyz7NgroJC4V0iOOumPnNFBUaDWt0hwoKsg4sgvr10EBv/3jytdgo= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:36:38 -0800 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V07 #69 In-Reply-To: <20070130142343.39FEE3BF08@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070130142343.39FEE3BF08@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3VqXjB.A.va.4A5vFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Hey Os, That's a very good week to be in the SF bay area. For anyone who's going to be in the area, www.bayimproviser.com/calendar is a great place to find improvised and experimental music events. The Luggage Store has a great show lined up for thursday March 1st: Darwinsbitch (Marielle Jakobsens, a violin/computer performer who consistently blows me away with her talent and concentration) and Thomas Dimuzio. On March 8th, it's instrument inventor Tom Nunn's cd release party. If you take the 20 minute train ride to Oakland, there's also this big outdoor event that week. Multiple electronic and acoustic bands playing to projections on a big downtown wall.: Fri 3/2 7:00 PM The Great Wall of Oakland [West Grand between Broadway and Valley] The Illuminated Corridor takes on The Great Wall of Oakland, the seven-story, north facade of the former Breuner's Furniture Store with a three-part performative projection featuring the films of 2006 Phelan Awardee Alphonso Alvarez and intermedia work by myrmyr (Marielle Jakobsons and Agnes Szelag), Shudder (Phillip Greenlief, Kyle Bruckman, Lance Grabmiller) and a new work commissioned for this site by composer Dan Plonsey and perfomed by Myles Boisen, Merlin Coleman, George Cremaschi, Jeff Hobbs, Lisa Mezzacappa, Jonathan Segel, John Shiurba and Bill Wolter. > Os was like: > > Hi, > > I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would love > to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've > actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also > useful! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 18:50:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B87793BEF5; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:50:00 EST Subject: GREAT SPEECHES To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c0c.fec0622.32f0ed58_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:50:23 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c0c.fec0622.32f0ed58_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit while i'm at it, if you haven't given CT-GREAT SPEECHES a listen bop on over to www.ct-collective.com and give it a listen.....a wonderful, interesting albeit dark (imho) bit of music.....xcellent work all round!.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_c0c.fec0622.32f0ed58_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable while i'm at it, if you haven't given C= T-GREAT SPEECHES a listen bop on over to www.ct-collective.com and give it a= listen.....a wonderful, interesting albeit dark (imho) bit of music.....xce= llent work all round!.....michael



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--part1_c0c.fec0622.32f0ed58_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 19:12:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53A933BEE4; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070130191258.98857.qmail@web82609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=rVu5+kkX8RitPre7bt1f9l24TrdV9stMWz87Fw2AgMFzEHEoWdZCYqzSY6PFtokhVcbXRJeYLOcu8MnUu6bzR3Fy6RhN/OGt4Y1v78a7O23lUP4gjcrf92zdf0/8335gdVR2ezsPqzUdEiFAXvz0Xzo4juckL5kysEWwRCLn9GQ=; X-YMail-OSG: Q6hhHR4VM1k0RkQ4gOz.sZUNhBGMCWMD8.kq2DNQxervePJncdDd3AyQuzj5u.D9l7m6c1FwRPxnBWonSHAIDcRZAMZGo7UlEAaxaL7VeJLjn4JB.sERVd.qfJEwdqQRQPfo9K8RKs4xnmM- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:12:58 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Subject: Re: San Francisco recommendations? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-158555185-1170184378=:97446" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:12:59 +0000 (UTC) --0-158555185-1170184378=:97446 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is for great food: El Toro Tacqueria, corner of 17th and Valencia in the mission district (part of where someone already mentioned) for omnivorous or even vegan diets, it's not the safest part of town - think i've seen a couple of chalk outlines of a body on the street (that wasn't art) surrounded by rotating lights and all, but also been there a thousand times and no probs. It's bargainy and not easily forgotten because of being so good. Os wrote: Hi, I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would love to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also useful! cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband --0-158555185-1170184378=:97446 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is for great food: El Toro Tacqueria, corner of 17th and Valencia in the mission district (part of where someone already mentioned) for omnivorous or even vegan diets, it's not the safest part of town - think i've seen a couple of chalk outlines of a body on the street (that wasn't art) surrounded by rotating lights and all, but also been there a thousand times and no probs. It's bargainy and not easily forgotten because of being so good.

Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would love
to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've
actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also
useful!


cheers,
os.

--
os@collective.co.uk
http://www.collective.co.uk/
http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband


--0-158555185-1170184378=:97446-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 20:18:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 375CF3BEE4; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Skg93c9xy3E2+JOH8QVtxx1F5ivfV1O3MQ4JgGaLqp3cePSY7u5w8rdCSheHLyN7; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <19979188.1170188298408.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:18:17 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: San Francisco recommendations? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4896fa53d5d2a4c56b872c5416e04cd4e30ca2637590cc961d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.37 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:18:19 +0000 (UTC) i've experienced audium-and while i love to be transformed and transfixed by music, this was stultifying. they turn out all the lights and have little speakers located thruout the room-the only sound you hear besides the stuff being piped in is the squeakee seats as people squirm in their chairs and the sound of uncomfortable breathing and body sounds-god help ya if you fart er somethin...its like a clean room gone awry. and while they call the sounds totally unique and ever changing-i've heard what they do on some triphop-ambient dub-tapes by DJ Spooky and others. i have a feeling these guys dont get out much. staninsanfran >I always recommend this to anyone going to San Francisco though I've >never been (I learned of it only after I left SF :-( > >http://www.audium.org/omhpp.cgi?src=intro.hpp > >It sounds like an awesome experience and its been around for quite some >time. Anyone in the Bay Area ever checked this out? > >Kevin > >> Hi, >> >> I've got a week long work trip to SF at the start of March. Would love >> to hear recommendations for venues, bars etc. to check out. I've >> actually got a whole Sunday free, so day-time recommendations also >> useful! >> >> >> cheers, >> os. >> > > >-- >Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > >- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 22:22:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9861A3BEDC; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> References: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0C5137FA-7C29-4F2B-A473-0774C61B2454@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: video of live looping performance Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:22:28 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:22:34 +0000 (UTC) I wonder how it continued! Where was this? Bernhard On Jan 30, 2007, at 15:06 :43, nico spahni wrote: > I've just posted an extract of a recent improvised looping > performance to youtube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPI6a61U4SM > > Cheers, > > Nico > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 22:43:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 011CB3BEDF; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <0C5137FA-7C29-4F2B-A473-0774C61B2454@bernhardwagner.net> References: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> <0C5137FA-7C29-4F2B-A473-0774C61B2454@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2029E66C-24D2-4C95-845F-B7FA22C933C3@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Subject: my looping tunes Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:43:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi loopy folks, I am new here but not new to looping. I've really enjoyed hearing everyone's music and the vibe in general in this forum. I'm glad I discovered this place. Is this a place? I've posted some live looping songs on my myspace page and I'd love some feedback. http://myspace.com/mistershifty everything was played live. let me know what you think. thanks, Teddy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 22:52:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A373D3BEDD; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: wqB.UccVM1nukl26XjzgoUzmYVw53rPSFufb0xxJ0SFbGKnboxSZv2DkRYqkitFKuRlF3_6TISaT_71cn7yJJmxaMm3ZUJsWiN.jYSChAWP4.v5xe6Y- Message-ID: <45BFCBA1.9080706@minds-eye.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:50:09 -0800 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: San Francisco recommendations? References: <19979188.1170188298408.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <19979188.1170188298408.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:52:13 +0000 (UTC) stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: >i've experienced audium-and while i love to be transformed and transfixed by music, this was stultifying. >they turn out all the lights and have little speakers located thruout the room-the only sound you hear besides the stuff being piped in is the squeakee seats as people squirm in their chairs and the sound of uncomfortable breathing and body sounds-god help ya if you fart er somethin...its like a clean room gone awry. >and while they call the sounds totally unique and ever changing-i've heard what they do on some triphop-ambient dub-tapes by DJ Spooky and others. >i have a feeling these guys dont get out much. > That's too bad. It sounded like such a good idea too. Well, scratch that recommendation then. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 23:32:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 452EF3BEDD; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> <0C5137FA-7C29-4F2B-A473-0774C61B2454@bernhardwagner.net> <2029E66C-24D2-4C95-845F-B7FA22C933C3@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: my looping tunes Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:32:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: <2029E66C-24D2-4C95-845F-B7FA22C933C3@mac.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 23399 Message-Id: <8C912DDFD7D815B-F44-10189@FWM-R34.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 152.163.181.138 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:32:17 +0000 (UTC) =C2=A0 http://myspace.com/mistershifty=C2=A0 =C2=A0 everything was played live.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 let me know what you think.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 thanks,=C2=A0 Teddy=C2=A0 =C2=A0 teddy.....welcome!.....what fun music, i love it!.....lots-o-sound for=20 a trio.....michael ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and=20 security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from=20 across the web, free AOL Mail and more. =3D0 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 30 23:57:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A9593BED0; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <6E219A5F-D86D-4A9B-B441-90FBD7FADC34@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: some more music Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:57:11 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:57:17 +0000 (UTC) I enjoyed Teddy's, Nico's, Rune's and Per's recent track/album posts! So I post some myself: A short sample of a drummer playing the first pattern described earlier (http://tinyurl.com/2xzmfn) http://bernhardwagner.net/soundz/ DigitalUnderground20061227Disk1Track02.mp3 And also a new sample with guitar only and one with additional voice (both playing with a similar pattern): http://bernhardwagner.net/soundz/perm16th08.mp3 (sorry about the hum) http://bernhardwagner.net/soundz/perm16th07Rendered.mp3 Bernhard (my first post didn't seem to make it to the list) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 01:00:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54E2E3BEE1; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <8C912DDFD7D815B-F44-10189@FWM-R34.sysops.aol.com> References: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> <0C5137FA-7C29-4F2B-A473-0774C61B2454@bernhardwagner.net> <2029E66C-24D2-4C95-845F-B7FA22C933C3@mac.com> <8C912DDFD7D815B-F44-10189@FWM-R34.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Subject: Re: my looping tunes Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:59:59 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:00:18 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 30, 2007, at 6:32 PM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > >> http://myspace.com/mistershifty >> >> everything was played live. >> >> let me know what you think. >> >> thanks, >> Teddy > > > teddy.....welcome!.....what fun music, i love it!.....lots-o-sound > for a trio.....michael hey thanks for listening Michael... we had fun makin' it for sure. the goal was just that lots of sound for a trio thing, so... we're glad you noticed. Teddy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 01:42:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C602B3BEDF; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: y1fhds4VM1kxRIIA5UMJEe1eaHROsTjozp7b0yfIjgoW_EPx3HMpBE7DTun1x1zHaAluZTl7OYSVTZYp3qGsZaFpWxcHbqdizXw9dTTHH5u4LtyRN61LCm1ZfC4dTWbUnBXDLW2X.rDrSCk- From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: and some more!RE: some more music Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:41:39 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <6E219A5F-D86D-4A9B-B441-90FBD7FADC34@bernhardwagner.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Since everyone is sharing, I figure I'd drop a link to my FIRST EDP based looped tune...from my side project "Bohdanovich" A little rough, but you can hear it on www.myspace.com/bohdanovich. It's the only song there. Was looped once through, no secondary processing, it is was it is... Peace, Plish -----Original Message----- From: Bernhard Wagner LD [mailto:loopdelightml-NDI3MDE=-@bernhardwagner.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:57 PM To: Loopers Subject: some more music I enjoyed Teddy's, Nico's, Rune's and Per's recent track/album posts! So I post some myself: A short sample of a drummer playing the first pattern described earlier (http://tinyurl.com/2xzmfn) http://bernhardwagner.net/soundz/ DigitalUnderground20061227Disk1Track02.mp3 And also a new sample with guitar only and one with additional voice (both playing with a similar pattern): http://bernhardwagner.net/soundz/perm16th08.mp3 (sorry about the hum) http://bernhardwagner.net/soundz/perm16th07Rendered.mp3 Bernhard (my first post didn't seem to make it to the list) From root@rannow.org Wed Jan 31 02:27:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from rannow.org (rannow.org [217.160.203.84]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AFD3BED2 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11848 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jan 2007 16:59:01 -0000 Date: 30 Jan 2007 16:59:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20070130165901.11847.qmail@rannow.org> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com From: Bank of America Content-Type: text/html Subject: Security: Your Online Banking Account is Blocked Bank of America Account Review Department !
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 03:58:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E29BD3BEE4; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [70.169.35.217] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070129211918.965BC3BEF1@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Archival tape Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:58:28 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2007 03:58:31.0971 (UTC) FILETIME=[12ADF730:01C744EC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:58:34 +0000 (UTC) It wasn't Fred _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo – buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 04:01:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47D313BEE1; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:01:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Off topic! 1918 Gibson mandolin and a 1935 Gibson L10 for sale In-Reply-To: References: <6E219A5F-D86D-4A9B-B441-90FBD7FADC34@bernhardwagner.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20070131040135.EDA873BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:01:37 +0000 (UTC) I'll start off by saying that this past weekend someone told me that all musicians suffer from GAS (gadget acquisition syndrome) That being said before I resort to ebay, I have a 1918 Gibson A style mandolin that I'm looking to sell, If you're interested contact me and I can email pictures and answer questions A friend of mine is also looking to sell a 1935 Gibson L10. He'll be looking for at least $3,000.00 for it. Again email me for pics and description if any of you are interested. Thanks Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca phaslem@wightman.ca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 06:14:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD9403BEE0; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0aae01c744ff$054cd8a0$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <6E219A5F-D86D-4A9B-B441-90FBD7FADC34@bernhardwagner.net> <20070131040135.EDA873BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Mandolin from Mars: Proto-Soundclips for Review Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:14:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:14:17 +0000 (UTC) I have four "proto-soundclips" ready on myspace now, from my upcoming improvisational CD "Mandolin from Mars". I haven't decided whether all of these will be on the CD yet. I'm waiting until I have 20 or so songs complete. Anyway, I'd love any thoughts or comments on them. I'm using a Goldtone 6-string mandolin, running through an LR Baggs acoustic preamp, my laptop system, various VST and MAX/MSP effects, Reaktor, Mobius for looping, etc. One song, "Astrophonic Dreams in the Tube", which will also be on Project MRI (Chain Tape Collective), uses an ambient substratum, a recording of an MRI machine and processed like mad by Reaktor and other VSTs....depictions of my wonderful daydreams while getting my lower back scanned in the tube last year before back surgery....delightful experience, if I may add. Check em' out...the CD should be ready in late Spring. http://www.myspace.com/krispenhartung (Astrophonic Dreams in the Tube, Thirst for Ancient Shores, Probe Out, Trenches) Cheers, Kris ************************************************************************** Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung Performance Calendar: http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=Krispen%20Hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 08:46:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E0313BEE0; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:46:40 +0100 From: "nico spahni" In-Reply-To: <0C5137FA-7C29-4F2B-A473-0774C61B2454@bernhardwagner.net> Message-ID: <20070131084640.29640@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> <0C5137FA-7C29-4F2B-A473-0774C61B2454@bernhardwagner.net> Subject: Re: video of live looping performance To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:46:44 +0000 (UTC) How it continued? Well, I went on rambling for some more time and then quit without making a distinct musical statement :-) The performance took place in my apartment. Nico -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:22:28 +0100 Von: Bernhard Wagner LD An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Re: video of live looping performance > I wonder how it continued! > Where was this? > > Bernhard > > On Jan 30, 2007, at 15:06 :43, nico spahni wrote: > > > I've just posted an extract of a recent improvised looping > > performance to youtube: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPI6a61U4SM > > > > Cheers, > > > > Nico > > -- "Feel free" - 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX ProMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 08:54:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D1F43BEE4; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:54:42 +0100 From: "nico spahni" In-Reply-To: <59818.15330.qm@web26201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070131085442.29650@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <59818.15330.qm@web26201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Vedr. video of live looping performance To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Okay, here comes the unavoidable gear talk :-): hardware: Apple G4 PB M-Audio interface Behringer FCB1010 foot pedal Evolution UC-16 midi controller software: RAX (virtual mixer) SooperLooper Augustus Loop an array of (mostly free) quirky plugins How do I use it? I wish I knew and could thereby introduce at least some consistency to my looping ventures! Nico www.recpro.ch www.myspace.com/nicospahni -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:02:25 +0100 (CET) Von: rune fagereng An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Vedr. video of live looping performance > Hi ! > > Nice ambient looping ! > Please tell about your gear and how you use it ? > > best regards Rune Fagereng. Norway > > > --- nico spahni skrev: > > > I've just posted an extract of a recent improvised > > looping performance > > to youtube: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPI6a61U4SM > > > > Cheers, > > > > Nico > > > > > > > www.runefagereng.com > Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no > Mob: 917 95 867 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com -- "Feel free" - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 09:06:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2097C3BEE6; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=bPW9PABh2hMz8WgnE9hgL+vQJasmdaRSvo/MFqqDBQKbTP+kdQn5I7R+7T1zoRZJ1s8e6k+9EYZtG6WDX7NbU/1tICUgeVTZhXyLvV1LQ2SCOg8froe148n9TZ8+0s1dMZrQnHWfeepEqZj7eS+vYNzjPD0yfba05n0z2lOQIig= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <2029E66C-24D2-4C95-845F-B7FA22C933C3@mac.com> References: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> <0C5137FA-7C29-4F2B-A473-0774C61B2454@bernhardwagner.net> <2029E66C-24D2-4C95-845F-B7FA22C933C3@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4A57807C-3012-4C8F-9504-EC715A4D2C83@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: my looping tunes Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:06:28 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:06:35 +0000 (UTC) On 30 jan 2007, at 23.43, Teddy wrote: > http://myspace.com/mistershifty > everything was played live. > let me know what you think. I found Adventures if Skatool a lovely tune! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 09:22:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6E293BEEC; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=VdGbAgynxOtgYnHzwLIi8CUa3LCJ+QXh5AEzadhigT2ArMcOYzNblOkhM+YkhWUiHqhGE3FkT+KXtBTt4vpRCiqb3BCKZam20YnPwqYxlouWVEGVD18FEYM1kM8V0t2U6djubwINiGTp6oojD0FnJ9tcPDFB9yjD+BVw0dxm0C4= In-Reply-To: <0aae01c744ff$054cd8a0$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <6E219A5F-D86D-4A9B-B441-90FBD7FADC34@bernhardwagner.net> <20070131040135.EDA873BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <0aae01c744ff$054cd8a0$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Mandolin from Mars: Proto-Soundclips for Review Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:22:35 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:22:59 +0000 (UTC) On 31 jan 2007, at 07.14, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Check em' out...the CD should be ready in late Spring. > http://www.myspace.com/krispenhartung Excellent! I like that stuff :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From siamcard@mail.shootingtrip.com Wed Jan 31 12:26:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 33919 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:26:43 UTC Received: from mail.shootingtrip.com (static-54-210.worldinternetworkcorporation.com [202.44.54.210]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FD73BED0 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.shootingtrip.com (Postfix, from userid 509) id 432BF235BD7; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:08:32 +0700 (ICT) From: services@BankofAmerica.com Reply-To: services@BankofAmerica.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html\r\n Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\r\n Subject: Update Your Account! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 13:44:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B8913BEE4; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9226cbda48ac27b59b68ce1ad1ea5a92@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: colorado improv/loopage Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:43:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2007-01-25_08:2007-01-25,2007-01-25,2007-01-25 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0701160000 definitions=main-0701250045 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:44:10 +0000 (UTC) a couple "1st. Thurs. Gallery Nights" performances: thurs. Feb. 1st at Timberline Gallery, Evergreen CO and thurs. march 1st. at the Evergreen Arts Center main gallery thanks - Paul Mimlitsch (guitar/ mandocello/ looping) and Richard Ball (saxes/ world flutes) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 14:55:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 005413BED0; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4A57807C-3012-4C8F-9504-EC715A4D2C83@gmail.com> References: <9673a5da7ae5852dcf6070b7885fdb20@gmx.net> <0C5137FA-7C29-4F2B-A473-0774C61B2454@bernhardwagner.net> <2029E66C-24D2-4C95-845F-B7FA22C933C3@mac.com> <4A57807C-3012-4C8F-9504-EC715A4D2C83@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5BA41826-385D-4F8F-B582-43A9FA7FCC49@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Subject: Re: my looping tunes Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:55:14 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:55:20 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 31, 2007, at 4:06 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 30 jan 2007, at 23.43, Teddy wrote: > >> http://myspace.com/mistershifty >> everything was played live. >> let me know what you think. > > > I found Adventures if Skatool a lovely tune! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > hey thanks Per... I liked your myspace music as well... very cool stuff I remember you from the Logic users list. Teddy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 16:08:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 106003BECF; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: electric bird noise in raleigh n.c. Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:07:50 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: enat21213@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8C9136916F47CDC_1468_8DFD_WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 22250 Message-Id: <8C9136916F6DF36-1468-4B83@WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.88.79 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:08:16 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8C9136916F47CDC_1468_8DFD_WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hey folks....playing in raleigh n.c. this friday at kirk adams gallery located in the father and son antiques buliding downtown raleigh. 107 W Hargett St., Raleigh NC 27601 come out if you can make it! brian electric bird noise ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. 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 hey folks....playing in raleigh n.c. this friday at kirk adams gallery located in the father and son antiques buliding downtown raleigh.

107 W Hargett St., Raleigh NC 27601

come out if you can make it!

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----------MB_8C9136916F47CDC_1468_8DFD_WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 16:11:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3CB73BEE8; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:10:56 EST Subject: Re: my looping tunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cdb.886a1ed.32f21990_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: YES Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:11:35 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cdb.886a1ed.32f21990_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit teddy.....for a little while i played with a drummer and bass player, free improv type music, we called ourselves KLUTTER.....i looped in this trio.....it was such fun, i enjoy this much more than the solo live looping that i do (all the time).....go to www.ct-collective.com and give a listen to CT-LIVE "SYD'S GHOST" for a taste of KLUTTER also lots of other great stuff on there.....the tune was a throw together, actually only the second time that we played together, on this trac there was an additional guitar player/looper who joined us.....if you care to i'll trade you cds.....let me know.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_cdb.886a1ed.32f21990_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable teddy.....for a little while i played w= ith a drummer and bass player, free improv type music, we called ourselves K= LUTTER.....i looped in this trio.....it was such fun, i enjoy this much more= than the solo live looping that i do (all the time).....go to www.ct-collec= tive.com and give a listen to CT-LIVE "SYD'S GHOST" for a taste of KLUTTER a= lso lots of other great stuff on there.....the tune was a throw together, ac= tually only the second time that we played together, on this trac there was=20= an additional guitar player/looper who joined us.....if you care to i'll tra= de you cds.....let me know.....michael



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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 20:26:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 335FD3BEB0; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45C0FB7D.6040403@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:26:37 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe References: <20070129211918.563853BEEE@arsenic.violacea.com> <002d01c7443e$4b23d890$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <002d01c7443e$4b23d890$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters wrote: > What a great musician. I hope I can see her perform > again sometimes, maybe on some looping festival. I can confirm this to the highest degree, I've seen both the night before in Berlin, even though Zoë's one repeater refused to work, all was absolutely mind blowing. I never saw a performer with such a complex setup doing it all by herself. At least it didn't feel like there is a bunch of technical geniuses somewhere backstage or at the desk (on the contrary, the house sound started loud and pretty good, but at the end it went more and more into bad distortion, the engineer from the house must have been totally deaf. I hope that Imogen will build up enough fans to be able to have her own sound engineer tour with her...) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 20:29:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E8C93BEFB; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45C0FC35.4040606@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:29:41 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Jesse Chappell wrote: > But you're right, the Finder and OS X in general makes it very hard to > see hidden files beginning with '.' without using a terminal. The new version 0.5.5 doesn't open on my Mac PPC OS X 10.4.2 (Its a short flash and it seems to quit immediately without notice), whereas the 0.5.3 opens fine btw... The corresponding console output below, it seems my leading blanks in folder names create the problem... (Maybe "quotationmarks" would help to sort out the issue...) Stefan JACK compiled with POSIX SHM support. loading driver .. FreeWheeling 0.5.5 Brought to you by a grant from Mother Earth. MEMMGR: Stacksize: 131072. MEM: Memory manager thread (p47) INIT: ERROR: Config file version "0.5.3" does not match FreeWheeling version "0.5.5"! *** Installing new configuration file. I will make a backup of the old one. Backing up your old configuration to: /Users/ST/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc.backup.1 INIT: Executing: cp /Users/ST/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc /Users/ST/.fweelin/.fweelin.rc.backup.1 INIT: Executing: cp /Applications/Musikprogramme/ Live Performance/FreeWheeling/FreeWheeling.app/Contents/Resources/.fweelin.rc /Users/ST/.fweelin cp: Performance/FreeWheeling/FreeWheeling.app/Contents/Resources/.fweelin.rc: No such file or directory cp: Live: No such file or directory cp: /Applications/Musikprogramme/ is a directory (not copied). Reading new config... INIT: ERROR: Config in install dir is not up to date! Did you run 'make install'? jack main caught signal 3 no message buffer overruns -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 20:41:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7FF13BEE8; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=mqs2R9fAfvkfzctc1rx+FtbXKT/gTUdCPQMgT76fpk1FHR4/7xY+EO7kSX6XxgI1lUDP9CFnr74eHFh3g86vXcA1JqoCr2iw+p3zJM02Aq7+/kUxShlGWEfs7ESm1RzDs/m/OUBOdWfnReesPi+ARmXAIW7eERQuaisfg8JSA9Q= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45C0FC35.4040606@addcom.de> References: <45B985BB.5070504@stickist.com> <4E544CD7-51C0-4E2D-B98A-A9C036419FE4@gmail.com> <45BA62BF.5030800@stickist.com> <45C0FC35.4040606@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0DD327B1-3BD7-400D-8C8F-6B35CE1A645C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:41:40 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:41:48 +0000 (UTC) On 31 jan 2007, at 21.29, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > The new version 0.5.5 doesn't open on my Mac PPC OS X 10.4.2 (Its a > short flash and it seems to quit immediately without notice), whereas > the 0.5.3 opens fine btw... Since Stefan is reporting an issue I'd like to add some more info to my earlier post. The machine for which I reported that Freewheeling 0.5.5 is working fine is a Dual G5 with OS 10.4.8. What you could do, Stefan, is to update your system to see if it has an effect? Could it really be that Freewheeling doesn't run on PPC processors? I have not yet tried to run Freewheeling on my PPC powerbook, but I will do in about a week, since that's my gig machine. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 21:53:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DFFB3BEE0; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Imogen&Zoe Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:53:29 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000101c74582$3e718300$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <45C0FB7D.6040403@addcom.de> Thread-Index: AcdFdh0ZENc4+JDKT1e2ApBXJe2VnAAC740g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq Resent-Message-ID: <_70rSD.A.CCB.S_QwFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:53:22 +0000 (UTC) > refused to work, all was absolutely mind blowing. I never saw > a performer with such a complex setup doing it all by > herself. At least it didn't feel like there is a bunch of To this regard, you gotta see Miro Mantere (who performed at the y2k6loopfest). His setup includes lots of acoustic instruments (some of them self-built) and loads of electronics. Check out the recording of the main festival gig at y2k6loopfest.com - his strategy is "no synthesizers, no samplers" btw - everything is played (with the sole exception of an electric bass guitar) acoustically. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 22:36:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E83EE3BEE6; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <0aae01c744ff$054cd8a0$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <6E219A5F-D86D-4A9B-B441-90FBD7FADC34@bernhardwagner.net> <20070131040135.EDA873BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <0aae01c744ff$054cd8a0$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <76278BC6-2041-4136-B42F-BF7ED62798B7@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Subject: Re: Mandolin from Mars: Proto-Soundclips for Review Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:36:28 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:36:33 +0000 (UTC) man that is cool music !!!!!!! congrats Teddy On Jan 31, 2007, at 1:14 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I have four "proto-soundclips" ready on myspace now, from my > upcoming improvisational CD "Mandolin from Mars". I haven't decided > whether all of these will be on the CD yet. I'm waiting until I > have 20 or so songs complete. Anyway, I'd love any thoughts or > comments on them. > > I'm using a Goldtone 6-string mandolin, running through an LR Baggs > acoustic preamp, my laptop system, various VST and MAX/MSP effects, > Reaktor, Mobius for looping, etc. One song, "Astrophonic Dreams in > the Tube", which will also be on Project MRI (Chain Tape > Collective), uses an ambient substratum, a recording of an MRI > machine and processed like mad by Reaktor and other > VSTs....depictions of my wonderful daydreams while getting my lower > back scanned in the tube last year before back > surgery....delightful experience, if I may add. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 22:40:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D3413BEEC; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-849981333 Message-Id: From: Teddy Subject: Re: my looping tunes Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:40:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:40:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-849981333 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I can't find that one to listen to... I only see it in the streamed list. do you have a direct link? this is so cool to get to hear everyone's music ! thanks Teddy On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > teddy.....for a little while i played with a drummer and bass > player, free improv type music, we called ourselves KLUTTER.....i > looped in this trio.....it was such fun, i enjoy this much more > than the solo live looping that i do (all the time).....go to > www.ct-collective.com and give a listen to CT-LIVE "SYD'S GHOST" > for a taste of KLUTTER also lots of other great stuff on > there.....the tune was a throw together, actually only the second > time that we played together, on this trac there was an additional > guitar player/looper who joined us.....if you care to i'll trade > you cds.....let me know.....michael > -- PS. -- check out the latest from my hippe dance music band mister shifty -- visit teddybut on my space -- new teddybut cd "The Man" is available online at cd baby -- Teddybut- "The Man" is part of the rotation at Harris Radio -- Interviews -- http://www.teddybut.com Kumpelstiltskin Music, Inc. Brooklyn, NY --Apple-Mail-4-849981333 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can't find that one to listen = to... I only see it in the streamed list.
do you have a direct = link?

this is = so cool to get to hear everyone's music !

thanks
Teddy
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On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

teddy.....for a little while i played = with a drummer and bass player, free improv type music, we called = ourselves KLUTTER.....i looped in this trio.....it was such fun, i enjoy = this much more than the solo live looping that i do (all the = time).....go to www.ct-collective.com and give = a listen to CT-LIVE "SYD'S GHOST" for a taste of KLUTTER also lots of = other great stuff on there.....the tune was a throw together, actually = only the second time that we played together, on this trac there was an = additional guitar player/looper who joined us.....if you care to i'll = trade you cds.....let me know.....michael




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check out the latest = from my hippe dance music = band

mister = shifty

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new teddybut cd "The = Man" is available online at

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= --Apple-Mail-4-849981333-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 22:43:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C70A23BEE6; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <224686029.1170261284824.JavaMail.root@fepweb09> References: <224686029.1170261284824.JavaMail.root@fepweb09> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Teddy Kumpel Subject: Re: my looping tunes Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:43:02 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:43:06 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:34 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > Teddy, > > Reallly enjoyed you tunes. Welcome aboard. Not that it is =20 > particularly similar in any specific way, but your first tune made =20 > me really smile -- like when I listen to They Might Be Giants or =20 > something. Just a feeling of pure fun and well-being. How many of =20 > us ever acheive that? Not many I'd wager. Certainly not me. Congrats! > > -- > > tEd =AE kiLLiAn Wow, well... THANKS tEd =AE kiLLiAn, I really appreciate your comments. I do feel that way these days... fun and well. I do make some pretty =20 dark ass shite too... which i will show my next upload. but, I know what you mean... that song makes me want to clean my house. I will check out your stuff now. excellent. teddy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 23:13:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA1513BEE1; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <9226cbda48ac27b59b68ce1ad1ea5a92@mac.com> References: <9226cbda48ac27b59b68ce1ad1ea5a92@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-851962897 Message-Id: <15686b8b8e726f2427df272a360aba87@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Very found sound on You Tube Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:13:27 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:13:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-851962897 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed You'll laugh. It ain't looping but, it's certainly loopy folks... just in case you haven't seen it. Is it real? I don't know. But a good video non the less. I heard it was in a film festival. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7h8qkMBE_E richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com --Apple-Mail-3-851962897 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII You'll laugh. It ain't looping but, it's certainly loopy folks... just in case you haven't seen it. Is it real? I don't know. But a good video non the less. I heard it was in a film festival. 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7h8qkMBE_E Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com --Apple-Mail-3-851962897-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 23:19:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC5F93BEEC; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [209.12.31.10] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070131224031.C409C3BED8@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: ejamming Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:19:26 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2007 23:19:28.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[41289640:01C7458E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:19:30 +0000 (UTC) wired story: site: _________________________________________________________________ Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into something more. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 23:47:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E061C3BEE8; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45C12A8A.1040502@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:47:22 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ejamming References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8yWL-.A.rAH.WqSwFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Speaking as a very frequent Ninjam user, this is certainly interesting but I'm somewhat skeptical of the article/marketing. They put down Ninjam for its delay, yet this app also adds a delay. And it says peer-to-peer, yet you need to buy a ($15/month) subscription, so you're not avoiding their servers altogether. I think Ninjam, with no need for cash to change hands and open source code, has a more promising life (Os, for example, created a plug-in on his own from the code making it much more useful for laptop peeps). I myself love this: *"In Sync. In Real Time.* Or in as close to real time as the laws of physics allow." those pesky laws of physics... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > wired > story: > > site: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jan 31 23:58:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94E923BEE8; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1aVJlnShh5tNcfIxzDjkUIXe03R/yV/5efWxKNR7U8nmKbMlfnIe8RBdLUrRXfLx76+pXA8OtgFpJoWYCPYp+eG6PMQHSyVnrFo3U7skZGjtNqVC4ZZ7Pr5KpgfRATpoFvuuKghHzEGtUMEpe01l2zKLAd00Qzdzde2oTX2Yabw=; X-YMail-OSG: 43ZzIn4VM1l9nN2AAmtp1PM5bL9irocr4xzqpw6TsrRhknbLxcVTQu6RrRFxcvuHffo2P7Q88gfeXE9c2X3XygOzZf5HkPqkMrq1Vx9G7KY887AfiqA- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:58:00 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: re: "TRANSITION" (scott hansen looping cd) // K. HARTUNG's "FRAGMENTS" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070131224031.C9EFE3BEF9@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1118956921-1170287880=:12662" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <296982.12662.qm@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:58:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-1118956921-1170287880=:12662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit michael K (nemoguitar)- big thanks on the nice plug on my latest cd, glad you enjoyed it.... if anyone is interested in hearing it, please send me an email to: scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu, and i can send you a copy..... should say a big thanks to Krispen H for trading his FRAGMENTS w/ me. some great weird stuff....acoustic, electric, percussion....some amazing sounds that he created live. haunting stuff, crazy sounds, and pretty all in one listen... i'm just bummed he stole my title idea for future project, oh well. happy looping, s--- --------------------------------- Expecting? 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michael K (nemoguitar)-
big thanks on the nice plug on my latest cd, glad you enjoyed it....
 
if anyone is interested in hearing it, please send me an email to:
 
should say a big thanks to Krispen H for trading his FRAGMENTS w/ me.
some great weird stuff....acoustic, electric, percussion....some amazing sounds
that he created live. haunting stuff, crazy sounds, and pretty all in one listen...
 
i'm just bummed he stole my title idea for future project, oh well.
happy looping,
s---
 
 
 
 


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