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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 00:53:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9D9C3BEDC; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,129,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="725103491:sNHT48547008" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20060815191322.65553.qmail@web36602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060815191322.65553.qmail@web36602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--858764485 Message-Id: <3deb2255e101f2b3ce3c769ac4e659df@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: looping sampler with midi capability Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:52:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:53:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--858764485 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Michael, On Aug 15, 2006, at 12:13 PM, michael sintros wrote: > from my research it seems like the akai s20 might be my best bet. I would not count on the S20 to be a good live looper. It was a decent =20= little phrase sampler for its day and price point. I still have mine collecting dust out in =20= the garage somewhere. I used it on my CD too (if that matters) back in 2001. But it is =20 rather s-l-o-w to save and/or load files (my gosh it uses "floppy" diskettes fer cryin' out loud) =20 ancient technology. And, yes you need to push a few buttons before any live input would be =20= saved and ready to loop. It has very little onboard memory as well. I don't know why I =20= hang on to mine. I've long since replaced it functionally with a Boss SP-303 (which is almost =20= obsolete as well). The one thing the Akai S20 had that I wish more groove/phrase samplers =20= had was the ability to have the loop fade out over time . . . just like on a digital delay. =20= All Boss products (to my knowledge) only have static loops that play until you turn 'em off . . =20= . very disappointing. If you have your heart set on owning one still . . . pay my postage and =20= I'll hunt up mine from the garage and send it to you free. I've long since lost the manual =20 (I'm pretty sure) but I'd bet there's someplace on the net to download one in PDF form. The thing =20= isn' very useful to me any more. Peace, tEd =AE kiLLiAn =93It may be true that my desk here is really "nothing but" a transient =20= eddy of electrons in the flux of universal process. Nevertheless, I =20 find that it continues to support my feet, my revolver, and my cigars =20= all day long. What happens when my back is turned I don't know. Or much =20= care. That's no concern of mine.=94 -- Edward Abbey http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? "Different is not always better, but better is always different"= --Apple-Mail-4--858764485 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Michael, On Aug 15, 2006, at 12:13 PM, michael sintros wrote: from my research it seems like the akai s20 might be my best bet. I would not count on the S20 to be a good live looper. It was a decent little phrase sampler for its day and price point. I still have mine collecting dust out in the garage somewhere. I used it on my CD too (if that matters) back in 2001. But it is rather s-l-o-w to save and/or=20 load files (my gosh it uses "floppy" diskettes fer cryin' out loud) ancient technology. And, yes you need to push a few buttons before any live input would be saved and ready=20 to loop. It has very little onboard memory as well. I don't know why I hang on to mine. I've=20 long since replaced it functionally with a Boss SP-303 (which is almost obsolete as well).=20 The one thing the Akai S20 had that I wish more groove/phrase samplers had was the ability=20 to have the loop fade out over time . . . just like on a digital delay. All Boss products (to my=20 knowledge) only have static loops that play until you turn 'em off . . . very disappointing. If you have your heart set on owning one still . . . pay my postage and I'll hunt up mine from the garage and send it to you free. I've long since lost the manual (I'm pretty sure) but I'd bet there's someplace on the net to download one in PDF form. The thing isn' very useful=20 to me any more. Peace, tEd =AE kiLLiAn 807F,0000,0000=93It may be true that my desk here is really "nothing but" a transient eddy of electrons in the flux of universal process. Nevertheless, I find that it continues to support my feet, my revolver, and my cigars all day long. What happens when my back is turned I don't know. Or much care. That's no concern of mine.=94 -- Edward Abbey 807F,807F,807F http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? 807F,0000,0000"Different is not always better, but better is always different"= --Apple-Mail-4--858764485-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 10:27:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 797C23BEDC; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Harold Schellinx" , "Leander Reininghaus" , "Loopers Delight" , "Marcus Obst" , "Rick Walker" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Walter_Br=FChn?= Subject: ball droppings Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:27:35 +0200 Message-ID: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcbBHpcgYUm+h0FESxez6vLSlt8O3A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:27:46 +0000 (UTC) http://www.balldroppings.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 12:30:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C32623BEE9; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "Michael Peters" , "Harold Schellinx" , "Leander Reininghaus" , "Loopers Delight" , "Marcus Obst" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Walter_Br=FChn?= References: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: ball droppings Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 05:30:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:30:45 +0000 (UTC) I'm in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks for sending this really fun musical game, Michael. I was able to get it to do some cool 'looping' patterns. It would be fun to have everyone use it to generate some music and then process it in what ever way and share it. Anyone up for that? yours, Rick Subject: ball droppings > http://www.balldroppings.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 13:05:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F9063BEE9; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=M0dueDa71ktBfgPLhOETVq4SCOOMndVJv6rhqlFK/WmAbMomtUMG9TH6cShYDrLK1MxMNG61RWcdm8t8v0DJMFhuPe1RDO4IpdjDgaLnmR/NtvL3Rw6JUnds5OvjyoHJCzslWiL0pk/T2HvvpmP+y5VYT7PME/oRZzDUi/Yjfl8= In-Reply-To: <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0F8F35CD-5E4A-4BEA-A55D-D21F84A7FF6C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: The Sound Of Yesterday - recorded and shared Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:05:35 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Hello looping Friends, I'm not very fond of "releasing recorded music" (as I think of the performer as "the original" and eventual recordings as only substitutes for that. Not to be confused with "producing recordings as an art form" though, which I do respect of course). But yesterday I recorded my rehearsal improvisations and found I liked them when listening back this morning. So here's sharing seven short documentary pieces played by flute or sax while live-looping in Mobius: http://www.looproom.com/audio/impros_aug15_2006/ I'll be happy if these bizarre songs just make you crack a smile ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 13:45:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B37B83BEE2; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: Questions to E2 Headrush users Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:45:26 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000c01c6c13a$3b0e61a0$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcbBOjqM6vGOS6cZSfqHYOnEA3IP4A== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:45:31 +0000 (UTC) I'm about to write a "delay pedal with looping capabilities" comparison (focusing on devices available first-hand) and for that I'd need some info on the E2 Headrush. So if any a Headrush users has answers to the questions below, please reply off-list: Normal Delay mode: What happens to the delay contents if you adjust the delay time with the time and fine knobs? Especially if your delay time was well above the 1.45s you can set with the knobs before turning them? What happens to the delay contents if you tap in a new delay length? Will it do some sort of unrounded multiply - if you tap a shorter time, cut out the time between the two taps, if you tap a longer time, put copies of your former delay content in the new longer delay? Tape Delay mode: It seems to me from the behaviour (and also from the chart in the manual) that the Tape Delay mode does not model a multi-head tape delay, rather four parallel single head delays. Is this the case? Thanks, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 14:22:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A2BF3BEDC; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=I8RCKpxRRgM2ovmgE7Vfamy0j8ILtCt7EHJgVHPk9+yLN64Cr1mwp3Kb6qjRbxEs6N0Xa0dGVN2fbP8e6DmSdFkffp7P4jIMDhQZkhdXeuI9GTWHQLAQsJnjdX/OMPM1YJRVbZIyxS6NspBjigFjQV2I17kCZJHOncpSJVnqD2c= In-Reply-To: <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <413B42E5-37DF-4538-A062-96128D7EA6FB@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:19:52 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:22:51 +0000 (UTC) This handy chart is a leftover from a magazine article I wrote. Might be helpful for comparing different looping devices: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for testing! ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 15:13:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1B803BEE9; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:13:44 EDT Subject: Re: ball droppings To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bec.21a7110.32149028_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:13:48 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bec.21a7110.32149028_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fun.....thnaks michael!.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_bec.21a7110.32149028_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable fun.....thnaks michael!.....michael

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--part1_bec.21a7110.32149028_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 15:15:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D90C3BEF4; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:15:08 -0700 Subject: How to fix a failing LED display From: Larry Stites To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi all - I recently tried to fix a flickering LED display on a Roland TD-10 drum machine/sequencer. I used Precision Electronics Cleaner which is basically ether and nasty ingredients meant to spray on circuits, wash away dirt and evaporate leaving no residue. Well it seemed to work but now the display is deteriorating. After having taken the TD-10 apart and finding the LED display I sprayed the liquid cleaner on it. Then allowed to evaporate or dry for over 24 hours before reassembling and powering up. The LED was working and the flickering was gone. Success! Then - I had a gig which took me away for a few days and I left the TD-10 at the studio in seemingly good working order. When I returned I powered up the TD-10 to begin recording and I noticed the bottom portion of the display has a line through it and that portion of the menu is not readable! I didn't see this before. I explored further pushing other buttons to bring up other windows within the display. The line across the bottom persisted and menu unreadable for all windows and some windows showed nothing but a complete blank screen. Sometimes a line flickers across the middle of the screen... The LED seems to be dying a slow death! Can I buy a new LED or do I have Roland repair. Any info or advice? Thanks LS From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 15:22:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7279D3BEFE; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44E33835.8000405@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:22:29 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ball droppings References: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090102010703030807050800" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:22:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090102010703030807050800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit boy, I sure didn't know /what /exactly I was going to see when I opened that link, with a subject line like that...but it's super cool! thanks. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > http://www.balldroppings.com/ > > > > > --------------090102010703030807050800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit boy, I sure didn't know what exactly I was going to see when I opened that link, with a subject line like that...but it's super cool! thanks.

Daryl Shawn
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http://www.balldroppings.com/

--------------090102010703030807050800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 16:41:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 897873BEF1; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:41:22 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20060816164122.177130@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 patch editor? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:41:25 +0000 (UTC) I don't think you really need a patch editor. What I recommend is to to create some default patches with your favorite settings. When you need them, simply copy them to a new patch slot. Buzap > I am finding that some of the settings that i have to make each time i > make a new patch are things that might be done faster in some sort of patch > editor. > anyone know of one that might work for this here thingy? > thanks --Jason -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal f�r Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 16:55:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EF5D3BF04; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44E34E14.7000406@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:55:48 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050707060606090403020503" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:55:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050707060606090403020503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per, this is great and extremely handy. Even though I'm not in the market for a looper, I like being familiar with the various devices and this should be a help to those who post to the list about whether this or that device has this or that feature. There are a few possible additional columns I might like to see - maximum loop/delay time (which I know isn't always identifiable with the more sophisticated devices); whether the device is rack-mount or floor-mount; and whether it has a dynamic display or not. Given the popularity of older devices, I'd (predictably) love to see this expanded to include some of the old saws like the Lexicon JamMan, E-H 16-second DDL (orig and re-issue), modified PCM42, Zoom pedals, etc. I could personally only fill in the blanks for the old commoner's favorite Digitech PDS-2000 & PDS-8000 (then again, I bet half of the people here could!). thanks for sharing this. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com On Wed Aug 16 7:19 , Per Boysen sent: This handy chart is a leftover from a magazine article I wrote. Might be helpful for comparing different looping devices: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for testing! ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom --------------050707060606090403020503 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per, this is great and extremely handy. Even though I'm not in the market for a looper, I like being familiar with the various devices and this should be a help to those who post to the list about whether this or that device has this or that feature. There are a few possible additional columns I might like to see - maximum loop/delay time (which I know isn't always identifiable with the more sophisticated devices); whether the device is rack-mount or floor-mount; and whether it has a dynamic display or not.

Given the popularity of older devices, I'd (predictably) love to see this expanded to include some of the old saws like the Lexicon JamMan, E-H 16-second DDL (orig and re-issue), modified PCM42, Zoom pedals, etc. I could personally only fill in the blanks for the old commoner's favorite Digitech PDS-2000 & PDS-8000 (then again, I bet half of the people here could!).

thanks for sharing this.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com

On Wed Aug 16 7:19 , Per Boysen sent:

This handy chart is a leftover from a magazine article I wrote. Might
be helpful for comparing different looping devices:
http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php

Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for
testing! ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast)
http://www.myspace.com/looproom

--------------050707060606090403020503-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 17:04:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29C9E3BF0C; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <413B42E5-37DF-4538-A062-96128D7EA6FB@gmail.com> References: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <413B42E5-37DF-4538-A062-96128D7EA6FB@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <423D4ACD-FDC6-4BCD-A46F-BEAD6489BECB@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:04:46 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Server-Quench: 5366f017-2d49-11db-b770-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtcZFU/GlJ1 UkhJREJTHA9oBRYF D1AcVgdwdxtEfHpu bU59XHVZWVt6Ox16 NTZQSS9cZWdnaWUb HkFZcAUadQBMeElF a1diVicJaHgGZy4y WgVsYGh0ZW0GcXQI TlpSclkbV3wGTHYY QBcaHDMgVUEIWSQ4 IlQtLVsEFVwQKUI0 eVAhUEgEewIKBgRC Ek0FHy5FJxE7bG92 VWtS X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:199/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Per, this is fantastic. Thank you. On Aug 16, 2006, at 7:19 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > This handy chart is a leftover from a magazine article I wrote. > Might be helpful for comparing different looping devices: > http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php > > Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for > testing! ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 18:37:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F4103BEEA; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "1000times" To: Subject: RE : ball droppings Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:37:30 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c6c163$07beb6a0$dca89d53@nom69pxtzsc526> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:37:37 +0000 (UTC) agreed !!!=20 this is great and a lot of fun. now, who is going to find the best way of making it play loopslike stuff ?=20 F -----Message d'origine----- De : loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com]=20 Envoy=E9 : mercredi 16 ao=FBt 2006 14:31 =C0 : Michael Peters; Harold Schellinx; Leander Reininghaus; Loopers Delight; Marcus Obst; Walter Br=FChn Objet : Re: ball droppings I'm in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks for sending this really fun musical game, Michael. I was able to get it to do some cool 'looping' patterns. It would be fun to have everyone use it to generate some music and then=20 process it in what ever way and share it. Anyone up for that? yours, Rick Subject: ball droppings > http://www.balldroppings.com/ > >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 18:41:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B6BA3BEF4; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011401c6c163$9a3deaf0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:41:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Wow, Per, What a great chart and thanks so much for putting so much energy into this. This is a fantastic single document to show a newbie. I must get 50 emails a year from young loopers wanting advice about what to purchase to get into this and I will send them this immediately from now on, if it's okay with you. Nice work and thanks! warmly, Rick Per wrote: "This handy chart is a leftover from a magazine article I wrote. Might be helpful for comparing different looping devices: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 19:12:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6DF53BEE6; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=dbDGPndap+lh0iK0Wn/ozhdRrMrYsPdAMGEWqnvP5UO5quzRWRXPbRCef6wJ8LvWl3bFTqpm4wXNDl3JuL7TvUB2NhApWKxb2GGNbKrnE8Z/wBIYa1TBqQVmc1WUY83TeudDoWnPbbJaqklIy9zaYxJ+dKb9RNL9H7vBr8dlBRE= In-Reply-To: <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <825813D9-472D-40CD-8DDB-2BA54E77F4AA@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ball droppings Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:12:18 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:12:23 +0000 (UTC) >> http://www.balldroppings.com/ Thanks for the link, Michael! We're running hit all the time here, on OSX and WIn boxes, and I can report that the balls fly double as fast in the Mac version. Dropping them balls into windows feels veeery relaxed... ;-) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 19:21:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A52D3BEF3; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44E37056.2010100@biink.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:21:58 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ball droppings References: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <825813D9-472D-40CD-8DDB-2BA54E77F4AA@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <825813D9-472D-40CD-8DDB-2BA54E77F4AA@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: >>> http://www.balldroppings.com/ >> > > Thanks for the link, Michael! We're running hit all the time here, on > OSX and WIn boxes, and I can report that the balls fly double as fast > in the Mac version. Dropping them balls into windows feels veeery > relaxed... ;-) I noticed that I resize to a smaller window it takes off. Win XP Pro. -- * David Beardsley * microtonal guitar * http://biink.com/db From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 19:42:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46DAB3BEFB; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: RE : ball droppings Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:42:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C0F5ED5@keel.sailpoint.com> In-reply-to: <001b01c6c163$07beb6a0$dca89d53@nom69pxtzsc526> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE : ball droppings Thread-Index: AcbBYwzq6meB1QsdQ+ukF3bJeJcJ0wACALfA From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:42:52 +0000 (UTC) From: 1000times [mailto:frenchloops@free.fr]=20 > > now, who is going to find the best way of making it play loopslike stuff The web site describes an option to direct position and trigger events to a TCP socket rather than doing internal sound generation. Other applications can then monitor this socket and convert the events into other things like sample trigger or MIDI events. There apparently is a Max patch to generate MIDI events, pictures of it are shown here: http://www.balldroppings.com/tcpip.html So come on you Max hackers, get on it! :-) The source code is supposedly available, though the link was stale. It should be relatively easy to modify it to generate MIDI events natively without having to involve Max. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 19:45:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A65593BEC2; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=BO6C8zlDrec86EXBxJUUAhISr4Ns3YOT9S9cFq+qMkj6dZIpxJeivXpiuHT8mwov; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <20922193.1155757514006.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:45:13 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New-Old Loop CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd484c7a31363b7ed73738aa4d5ba899538d7c7233ee4b332ceb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.32 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:45:15 +0000 (UTC) i just got this-and its beautiful fwiw s http://www.hauntedink.com/25/basinski-disintegration.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 19:58:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78D5C3BEC2; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20060816163555.428jfxlivmcckwgk@www.michaelplishka.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:35:55 -0400 From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 References: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <413B42E5-37DF-4538-A062-96128D7EA6FB@gmail.com> <423D4ACD-FDC6-4BCD-A46F-BEAD6489BECB@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <423D4ACD-FDC6-4BCD-A46F-BEAD6489BECB@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 502] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <-j_VpD.A.JMF.Lj34EB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Per, The Boomerang 2.0 does have a type of tap tempo;the length of time of the tap denotes the loop length. ~peace~ Plish Quoting Zoe Keating : > Per, this is fantastic. Thank you. > > On Aug 16, 2006, at 7:19 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> This handy chart is a leftover from a magazine article I wrote. >> Might be helpful for comparing different looping devices: >> http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php >> >> Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 unit for testing! ;-) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) >> http://www.myspace.com/looproom >> >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 20:06:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EF023BEF0; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=b6JrtuMs9k4BO2Bw0lKWelxG38bf5XBSiKyO3J8rEFyoKiyYG3FWxxDWdTry+XjIhYC6S0oH3eO1ssY/jHtJbdgRDeniSB5DyKF5NAntgH4LMY3eiX5TE7o7+mhm1iTsGnzS2P/u91qyivM547bH3syEeX6u+GFo1duMVrX2hkA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20060816163555.428jfxlivmcckwgk@www.michaelplishka.com> References: <006f01c6c11e$97fbd080$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <001301c6c12f$cd510320$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <413B42E5-37DF-4538-A062-96128D7EA6FB@gmail.com> <423D4ACD-FDC6-4BCD-A46F-BEAD6489BECB@zoekeating.com> <20060816163555.428jfxlivmcckwgk@www.michaelplishka.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2CFD37AE-3C5A-4E82-BDAE-6CA828DAA55A@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:06:31 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:06:37 +0000 (UTC) On 16 aug 2006, at 22.35, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > The Boomerang 2.0 does have a type of tap tempo;the length of time > of the tap denotes the loop length. Thnx, Plish. Valuable information. Will throw it into the chart. BTW, that context for tap tempo is similar to the EDP's and I must say that I personally prefer that over the traditional context where you dot fourth/eight note beats to indicate the tempo. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 20:27:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9828E3BEF8; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C0F5ED5@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C0F5ED5@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <50F22597-97D8-411E-8D93-163AC4D19389@xmlizer.biz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: RE : ball droppings Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:27:16 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Mac OSX does not allow you to telnet localhost to see the numbers. But a simple perl script that you can run in a terminal will let you see them. This script loops until it manages to connect to the given host. Once we figure out what the numbers spit out "mean" we could map them to arbitrary MIDI events (extending the script below) to control your EDP or Moebius or Repeater and do things like CL0D recently posted (http://tinyurl.com/g7r6b)... Bernhard http://nosuch.biz #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use warnings; use IO::Socket; use File::Basename; my $gProgName = basename $0; my $gHostname = shift @ARGV; die "Usage: $gProgName " unless defined $gHostname; my $gSocket; do { $gSocket = new IO::Socket::INET ( PeerAddr => $gHostname, PeerPort => 6668, Type => SOCK_STREAM, ); } until defined $gSocket; print "connection to $gHostname succeeded."; print while(<$gSocket>); On Aug 16, 2006, at 21:42 :15, Jeff Larson wrote: > From: 1000times [mailto:frenchloops@free.fr] >> >> now, who is going to find the best way of making it play loopslike > stuff > > The web site describes an option to direct position and trigger events > to a TCP socket rather than doing internal sound generation. Other > applications can then monitor this socket and convert the events into > other things like sample trigger or MIDI events. There apparently is > a Max patch to generate MIDI events, pictures of it are shown here: > > http://www.balldroppings.com/tcpip.html > > So come on you Max hackers, get on it! :-) > > The source code is supposedly available, though the link was stale. > It should be relatively easy to modify it to generate MIDI events > natively without having to involve Max. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 21:00:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 686363BEEE; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VmMVxtCYXB/G7vpCcw1tmtOipzJcmniwEJcrXRcx6A9xPo66Q+z85g775Oqu83wGflCFtVsQ6JPPoaI46HYWSfujPki7wp/+rx/X11jY3AXiz0a3VXicQOgYfyAKSKX8PlykaEIi/Gd07/QEYKpgwOr19t9guoIVCrj/ZmpV5ZQ= ; Message-ID: <20060816210055.68803.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:00:55 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: The Sound Of Yesterday - recorded and shared To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0F8F35CD-5E4A-4BEA-A55D-D21F84A7FF6C@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:00:58 +0000 (UTC) They did more than that. Very cool little tracks Per. My only complaint is that they didn't last long enough. --- Per Boysen wrote: > Hello looping Friends, > > I'm not very fond of "releasing recorded music" (as > I think of the > performer as "the original" and eventual recordings > as only > substitutes for that. Not to be confused with > "producing recordings > as an art form" though, which I do respect of > course). But yesterday > I recorded my rehearsal improvisations and found I > liked them when > listening back this morning. So here's sharing seven > short > documentary pieces played by flute or sax while > live-looping in Mobius: > > http://www.looproom.com/audio/impros_aug15_2006/ > > I'll be happy if these bizarre songs just make you > crack a smile ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 22:23:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E31A03BEE4; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qK3YzBY4dtZkMJSo0Rb9rJ5nFsmQOzcjRVgR+b0bzioDVaAcZIJIGctjjVIbAks8dyQzEQT9pmiUmT/KYzbrCokW9Qc5g/tGQL+R5m8sahkqmyuNM5c2wwcNOoe9X5+29LxcTokhB02zkZqNOfoqN+gEd3N8Mkob8e3qU6yZccM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:23:34 -0700 From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: The Sound Of Yesterday - recorded and shared In-Reply-To: <20060816210055.68803.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0F8F35CD-5E4A-4BEA-A55D-D21F84A7FF6C@gmail.com> <20060816210055.68803.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4i_fV.A.jGE.nr54EB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Nice tracks Per. Really interesting tonal palette! Neil From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 22:36:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2EA83BEE2; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kQtOpNFm+WDAAC3SykgAx58/sb7kIznsf+yAJiMBh8Jk9UfsKAGLWzsH6C5wk5Fcrn2KhsIfj6a511ba0e8H9BmHUPiVquCfvTYtBD/Yvxqg/Qs67z+NmZTs5pxoX+3mjlV1YSRzgDGZa2Kj9pvg/2sagHTRbX8enZTNuVsEJbY= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:36:49 -0700 From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Some tracks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:36:50 +0000 (UTC) I've been fascinated lately by using live looping recordings () as a basic track for a more fleshed out version, using Logic, etc. I've been working with unquantized material so its a challenge to draw tempo maps, getting bar lines in Logic, but its a fullfilling excercise. Its a vivid world using that created in a live session and picking bits out for fattening or developing, in the non-realtime mode. Though the essence of this trip is live improv, its cool to produce a little bit from time to time. In the Overtly folder, there is one version that has the original live solo acoustic gtr loop (mostly a harmonic ostinato), in the Mix version, I've added Stylus RMX drums, bass, doubled some of the orig loop lines, some gtr overdubs, synth arp section, and a nice flute solo at the end by a musical partner of mine. There is a folder with loops from one evening last week, solo ACS classical gtr (in that last thread I had mentioned I had a Godin Mulitiac, this is a solid body ACS) pretty dry. And if you're curious to hear some Metasynth, I have some pieces in that folder. http://homepage.mac.com/ngold Neil From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 23:21:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B1EE3BEDB; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: RE: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:23:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: <2CFD37AE-3C5A-4E82-BDAE-6CA828DAA55A@gmail.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:21:50 +0000 (UTC) No prob, Per. Thank YOU for the awesome resource!!! ~peace~ Plish -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:07 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 On 16 aug 2006, at 22.35, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > The Boomerang 2.0 does have a type of tap tempo;the length of time > of the tap denotes the loop length. Thnx, Plish. Valuable information. Will throw it into the chart. BTW, that context for tap tempo is similar to the EDP's and I must say that I personally prefer that over the traditional context where you dot fourth/eight note beats to indicate the tempo. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 16 23:43:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F40F83BEF7; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=rkYNYOK2fyLVjxENFZpbSOzh4rYqSBNQbGxoiK9E12eb8PM9+ut4Fiju9E3G1hzEI8SAgpo6eliQLRKM0UX4m/b6WYRAC2IgaY7K8popfuvcE8Cb8EP2V4lvBv255a6ewspFAhohL00fVJZJKXWXHXlMxFwM/iQt+87bQ0yOnF0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3456552A-8A9F-4673-91AA-F4BB90F947C0@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Some tracks Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:42:16 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:43:08 +0000 (UTC) On 17 aug 2006, at 00.36, Neil Goldstein wrote: > In the Overtly folder, there is one version that has the original live > solo acoustic gtr loop (mostly a harmonic ostinato), in the Mix > version, I've added Stylus RMX drums, bass, doubled some of the orig > loop lines, some gtr overdubs, synth arp section, and a nice flute > solo at the end by a musical partner of mine. Sounds good! It's nice how that flageolet figure goes so well all though every part of the arrangement. Is it part of the original looping session? Good break-down section as well. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 00:00:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ADF33BEE4; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H/5VvvNrlkQFxIKs9vPGzBod+7HHnNIBmTFCF/nHPC9cW5HlN77k3yJIRaoAg4yCz2EtafBo8J7REaGp/ZQJhzI7Kh4OuqrLnBDEGzQXS5iIDr73twnXEfHihoYhaVGtKSx7AjANLLmgLPqmNHPqtlqVH7oR+WrKmrj2q93NzbU= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:00:38 -0700 From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Some tracks In-Reply-To: <3456552A-8A9F-4673-91AA-F4BB90F947C0@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3456552A-8A9F-4673-91AA-F4BB90F947C0@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:00:39 +0000 (UTC) > > > Sounds good! It's nice how that flageolet figure goes so well all > though every part of the arrangement. Is it part of the original > looping session? Good break-down section as well. > thanks for taking the time Per. Just looked up flageoloet and it is'tin whistle' (Wikipedia). Is that term synonomous with ostinato in the vernacular? Those were harmonics I think you're talking about. The original was a Martin D35 acoustic via pickup into EDP. The original track (also in that folder) was imported into Logic and then I overdubbed over various sections. It is a static figure, so there was freedom to play different chords over or under the suspension of that figure. Love doing that 'live' and in studio. Per, your email and share, where you discussed recording, stimulated me to share this in a 'you can have your cake and eat it too' sort of way vis a vis production vs live improv. Anybody else putting their loops into the DAW and finding joy with overdubs? :-) NG From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 01:35:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05D223BEE4; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <09db01c6c19d$70cf5520$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <006f01c6ac24$e6588980$6701a8c0@pantanolaptop1> <0df101c6ac26$29976440$f3b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: AW: 10 year's anniversary of Looper's Delight ? Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:35:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Finally! I just uploaded my own 30-second clip.... http://www.box.net/public/dd6ylydpqr I did something a little out of my element here....okay, a lot out of my element! I pulled 30 seconds from a clip that I recorded very recently for Rick Walker to collaborate over, but rather than it being me on guitar (my primary instrument of 26 years), it is all vocal looping, just me on my Sure SM58 plugged into my laptop looping/effect system with Mobius. But you may not be able to tell that it is vocal only, as I was using some massive tone mangling VST effects, such as Reaktor, ring mod, octave, Cycling 74 Hipno, and a bunch of other layered effects that I can't recall. I liked the clip so much, that I think it's almost more experimental and avant-garde than my guitar material. Who knows, maybe I'll do a looping gig with just voice in the near future. The entire song was supposed to be called "Baby Zantac". Rick...you're up. :) BTW, if you want to hear here the full 5 min clip of madness, you can download or listen to it here: http://www.box.net/public/86akafpxhk Kris ----- Original Message ----- > All streamed here: > http://www.krispenhartung.com/loopers-delight-10year.m3u Main Page: http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm > > Create your 30 sec. MP3s in 128 rate format and upload them here: > > http://www.box.net/ > Login: loopersdelight > Password: loopersdelight > > Title the MP3 with your name and location, like Krispen Hartung - Boise - > Idaho - USA.mp3 > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Marsh > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:49 AM > Subject: RE: AW: 10 year's anniversary of Looper's Delight ? > > > I came late to the game, so I don't know where/how to upload a > contribution. Could somebody re-post the instructions? > > Thanks! > > Mike > > > > > From: Daryl Shawn [mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:43 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: AW: 10 year's anniversary of Looper's Delight ? > > hey Rainer, I did finally put one up late last night, and I saw a few > other new ones too. Happy to be in such good company...I hope everyone > here joins in. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > > > Looking forward to your contribution! > > Rainer > > > I'm late to the game, but let me say what a terrific idea > this is. I enjoyed the 15-some loops for quite a while last > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 03:50:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A28C93BEEE; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44E3E795.1040609@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:50:45 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EXPLAIN your 10th Anniversary Birthday 30 second tune References: <2mnWGRV5rfrx.jFlZxpM1@smtp.tre.biz> <078f01c6c088$7ce4ea20$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <078f01c6c088$7ce4ea20$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > Excellent. > > Keep them coming, folks. > http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm > The is starting to fill up. > > Kris Just uploaded my contribution, though it doesn't show up as public for some reason. Processed soprano sax, Apple Sculpture, Motu MX4, Spectrasonics Atmosphere and NI Absynth, along with four instances of Augustus Loop. A little longer than 30 seconds, due to a gratuitously long reverb tail. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 03:58:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1C823BEDF; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0a9001c6c1b1$5eab88f0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <2mnWGRV5rfrx.jFlZxpM1@smtp.tre.biz> <078f01c6c088$7ce4ea20$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44E3E795.1040609@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: EXPLAIN your 10th Anniversary Birthday 30 second tune Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:58:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:58:19 +0000 (UTC) I make them public, so that I can add them to the m3u stream file. Your clip is now in on the web page and the streaming file. Thanks! http://www.box.net/public/static/5mvbl832zg.mp3 Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Good" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: Re: EXPLAIN your 10th Anniversary Birthday 30 second tune > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> Excellent. >> >> Keep them coming, folks. >> http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm >> The is starting to fill up. >> >> Kris > > Just uploaded my contribution, though it doesn't show up as public for > some reason. > > Processed soprano sax, Apple Sculpture, Motu MX4, Spectrasonics Atmosphere > and NI Absynth, along with four instances of Augustus Loop. > > A little longer than 30 seconds, due to a gratuitously long reverb tail. > > Brian > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 06:52:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D9173BED2; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44E4120E.5040500@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:51:58 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EXPLAIN your 10th Anniversary Birthday 30 second tune References: <010a01c6bf98$12dd3920$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <010a01c6bf98$12dd3920$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:52:01 +0000 (UTC) loop.pool wrote: > I thought it would be very educational for everyone to explain how > they put their particular piece together. I think I placed some of that information into the comment field of the mp3. (ID3 tags are wonderfull, but often stay unused...) It was pretty simple out of my perspective, Lutz played violin, I treated the Ondes Memorielles. It is a Max patch with a mixer like setup of 8 phrase loops of up to 90 seconds and a tap delay (also 90 seconds) with 8 variable taps each is harmonized and could feedback into the tap input. A really cheezy reverb would add some air. The combination of harmonized feedback could create quite complex melodic and harmonic structures or textures... All this is controlled with a Faderbox from Fostex and a little Midi keyboard. The 30 seconds is an extract of a longer set... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 08:32:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 211733BEEC; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=EN34/Q8Tg//bnT13ys+V0Yw5zfrBSm/s41bmdo3+DFrcqpxpWEG/8qUvsUmchya415bEwnh6GbDl8yw2D06tHw97hiiXbd0OVSx1ZgafcBgDx0hToojHujtvlmorD1cZxVaLW77Usnegxv9t4CKoW0xuYo5YiZeszxIyLG1Hmog= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <3456552A-8A9F-4673-91AA-F4BB90F947C0@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <18EDC112-1328-4C2E-B570-97CA77C5C93E@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Refining live looping sessions in DAW's (was: Re: Some tracks) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:32:29 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:32:34 +0000 (UTC) On 17 aug 2006, at 02.00, Neil Goldstein wrote: > Anybody else putting their loops into the DAW and finding joy with =20 > overdubs? :-) Yes, I'm doing that with Logic. Have produced CD's and surround audio =20= movie DVD pieces this way. I rarely sync the loopers to Logic though. =20= Did that a little with EDP and Repeater, but today I prefer to loop =20 out totally free with Mobius and record the session by the Mobius =20 function that simply renders all audio on all tracks as a plain =20 stereo file. By not working with multi track technique I cut out a =20 lot of options, which in praxis means less tweaking and more time and =20= energy left for the the truly creative parts of the production =20 process (which of course is "music", as opposed to "sound"). The first, slightly boring, task is to move the stereo file from the =20 Mobius lappy into the Logic box (Logic only runs under OSX these =20 days, thanks to Steve Jobs and his gang). I use an USB stick to drop =20 the Mobius session stereo file on an audio track in Logic and set the =20= tempo of Logic to match whatever tempo I had happened to loop in. =20 This sometimes takes about three or four minutes to get exactly =20 right, may look like "Tempo =3D 97,42751 BPM" ;-) For some movie =20 soundtracks I have used Logic's way of making the audio =20 "elastic" (called "Follow TEmpo") to have the M=F6bius session follow =20= tempo curves I make to match up with the pictures of the movie. One challenge is to handle a full stereo recording to sound =20 dynamically good regarding compressing techniques as well as using =20 reverb or delay to create ambience. For example, I love those lush =20 plate reverb convulosions (Space Designer) but if I should simply =20 send the whole Mobius track signal into one of those there will be =20 too much bass in the reverb and the music would loose the firm punch =20 of the lower frequencies. Since I sometimes like to also compress the =20= reverb side chain ducked from the original track signal, the easy =20 solution of using EQ to cut out bass on an effect bus before the =20 reverb won't either give me the sound I'm after. My favorite trick to =20= solve this is to split the audio track (the complete stereo =20 recording) into a bunch of bus/aux channels. First effect on each sub =20= channel will be a hi or lo cut filter (or both) to take out all =20 frequencies except for the band I want to work on that track. In =20 essence this is like building a "multi band submix". Think about it =20 as a totally open multi band compressor system. Usually I stay with =20 only two bands; the upper being used for sending to reverb (or =20 putting the reverb on the track as an "insert", which gives a little =20 different sound if followed by a compressor). One nice part of this mixing concept is when you open up all the =20 frequency band sub channels as arrange window tracks and use Logic's =20 automation to make them move dynamically in level. Since I usually =20 also compress a little on the final master output (where the band sub =20= mix channels are being summed) any altering of the frequency band sub =20= channel tracks levels will work that mastering section dynamically. And then there is also the option to use some of Logic's tempo synced =20= effects on some frequency band track. These things are nothing new, and not especially Logic related; it's =20 just old audio mix engineering tricks that has been in use for =20 decades. I think it's great to now be able to achieve all these =20 classic studio tools "in the box", thanks to Logic. It's a great DAW =20 IMHO. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 08:40:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72CA93BEF1; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=IY60stRGlDiGX2m3TEVMjS1hSLvubw6yrl4rvETSzfOTbPMSEu5oZzLsLnw6khx5RrOBH2deLPocuogTnxISBpz1MMOzsjO8qeq8lqDk58bTzaFJctCSxGY3HF7mWt9iQArh0KbQ+kIocdphh1Q72WtDx4SUdhelwrjfINBrmWM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <3456552A-8A9F-4673-91AA-F4BB90F947C0@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <06E08E95-C5A0-4E4F-A6AC-7B1D84EE48DA@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Some tracks Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:40:20 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:40:24 +0000 (UTC) On 17 aug 2006, at 02.00, Neil Goldstein wrote: > Just looked up flageoloet Ooops.. Still three hundred years after the French culture explosion we use words in Swedish that are originally french words. I guess the Frenchies never did that big impression on North Amarica back then ;-)) > and it > is'tin whistle' (Wikipedia). Is that term synonomous with ostinato in > the vernacular? Those were harmonics I think you're talking about. > The original was a Martin D35 acoustic via pickup into EDP. The > original track (also in that folder) was imported into Logic and then > I overdubbed over various sections. > > It is a static figure, so there was freedom to play different chords > over or under the suspension of that figure. Love doing that 'live' > and in studio. Yep, me too. The simpler the ostinato theme is, the more I like it being cleverly combined with odd harmonies or counter melodies. That's also why I liked (good) electronic dance music when it came around; for the repeating bass line that goes through all parts and tend to add new flavor only by staying the same while passing though other areas. It's like a tonal version of poly rhythm ;-) Looping techniques are especially rewarding for learning about these areas. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 09:55:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD2A73BEE4; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006401c6c1e3$54218e20$0400000a@mini> From: "Claude Voit" To: References: <010a01c6bf98$12dd3920$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <33108481-22D1-4D7C-BAFB-25A70AF2272A@gmail.com> Subject: Re: EXPLAIN your 10th Anniversary Birthday 30 second tune Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:55:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Happy birthday Loopers-Delight mode d'emploi take the common "Happy birthday to you melody" playit thru the following patch A pair of EDP's that are set to moreloop 4 and delay mode. the following EDP functions (loop trigg, susHalf/full speed, susRev/forward,) are automated thru midi by a Clavia G2 patch. this G2 patch is inpired by the traditional plain hunt four minim sequence used by bell ringers in Great-Britain (search change ringing) or http://www.nagcr.org/pamphlet.html the G2 patch plays the following pattern towards the 4 loops set in the EDP 1: loop 1 full speed forward pan L 2: loop 2 half speed forward pan +20% 3: loop 3 full speed reverse pan -20% 4: loop 4 half speed reverse pan R 4 plain hunt sequence : 1 2 3 4 ------- 2 1 4 3 2 4 1 3 4 2 3 1 4 3 2 1 3 4 1 2 3 1 4 2 1 3 2 4 1 2 3 4 as you play into this setup the notes are picked up by the loops and played back later at another rythmical spot (sort of phrase reshuffling) any sequencer can be programmed to do this automation setup but the edp out goes thru the G2 where the panning is done. another very specific part of this setup is a dynamic feedback regulator wich lowers the EDP feedback according to the input volume. This feedback regulator avoids the loop beeing too full after a while and dynamic replaces ala vortex. the recall of the right EDP midi message can be facilited with my EDP MIDI Commands Spreadsheet http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html Claude Voit From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 10:28:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 481883BEE8; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <006401c6c1e3$54218e20$0400000a@mini> References: <010a01c6bf98$12dd3920$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <33108481-22D1-4D7C-BAFB-25A70AF2272A@gmail.com> <006401c6c1e3$54218e20$0400000a@mini> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--737867326 Message-Id: From: zurrigo Subject: 72 hours of EDP music - was: 10th Anniv. 30 sec. tune Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:27:55 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:28:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9--737867326 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi everybody just got back on to the list after a while not sure if this is about the EDP's 10th anniversary but if so, this might be my contribution: I am currently quite busy finishing my new composition "Fractaloid 1-9 - 72 hours of EDP music" that will be performed in Bern- Switzerland from september 14th to 17th featuring Lucio Menegon and Martin Birnstiel on Guitar or Cello respectively. More info in english: http://www.mem.li/e/fractaloid_e.html Much more info in german: http://www.mem.li/d/fractaloid_d.html Thanks for zapping in! Phil Philipp "zurrigo" Zuercher Elfenauweg 2 CH-3006 Bern Switzerland +41 31 332 46 44 (Landline) +41 78 623 13 13 (Mobile) http://www.mem.li --Apple-Mail-9--737867326 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi everybody

just got back on to the = list after a while

not sure if this is about = the EDP's 10th anniversary but if so, this might be my = contribution:

I= am currently quite busy finishing my new composition "Fractaloid 1-9 - = 72 hours of EDP music" that will be performed in Bern-Switzerland from = september 14th to 17th featuring Lucio Menegon and Martin Birnstiel on = Guitar or Cello respectively.

More info in = english:

http://www.mem.li/e/fractal= oid_e.html

Much more info in = german:

http://www.mem.li/d/fractal= oid_d.html

Thanks for zapping = in!

Phil

Philipp = "zurrigo" Zuercher

Elfenauweg 2

CH-3006 = Bern

Switzerland

+41 31 332 46 44=A0 = (Landline)

+41 78 623 13 13=A0 (Mobile)

http://www.mem.li

= --Apple-Mail-9--737867326-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 10:31:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D7C43BEE6; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:27:59 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <44E444AF.2090800@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:31:18 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Klaus Schulze and his recent reissued work on Revisited Records. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Mirage." The Vinyl Starter will come from the LP "Departure from the Northern Wasteland" by Michael Hoenig on Kuckuck Records and released in 1978. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/focus.html#aug Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and on the internet. WDIY now simulcasts on WXLV on 90.3 FM in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania. All times are EDT / GMT-4. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 10:46:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28FEF3BEF0; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=K2z5mh+ZDA/ez9m1OHYsoVjUePedQsWLonyk/4fvSXMlThN07qB3wARU+2VbKQgZYsPJRLX/06w6uw5TI94OYOXqelaaoOwpT2HknX9mnJWxu/o6vT+Uue2e/hYZP47F1lk6KdqEKEaR6T6dEQGTRQCIB+4R/0ReW5Yg4feA7oY= ; Message-ID: <20060817104654.70950.qmail@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:46:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: EXPLAIN your 10th Anniversary Birthday 30 second tune To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0a9001c6c1b1$5eab88f0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-ODhRD.A.orE.fkE5EB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Water Mirrors-Played an acoustic steel string guitar into a mackie CFX1202 with stereo EDPs in its auxs and added a bit of reverb. set the echoplex to more loops=4 Switch Quant=on played hammered bass notes in loop1, sus-overdubed harmonics playing simultaneously a bass figure with my palm on the guitar in loop2, multiplied a finger picking phrase in loop3, drummed on the acousitc and played a minimal melody in loop4. I then improvised some vocals on top through a boss dd-3 and EQ,and simply alternated between loops with a FCB1010 foot controller while singing. > Krispen Hartung wrote: >Excellent. >Keep them coming, folks. www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 13:20:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F79B3BEE6; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0ab301c6c1ff$ef89e210$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <010a01c6bf98$12dd3920$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <44E4120E.5040500@addcom.de> Subject: Re: EXPLAIN your 10th Anniversary Birthday 30 second tune Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:20:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:20:45 +0000 (UTC) From: "Stefan Tiedje" > > I think I placed some of that information into the comment field of the > mp3. (ID3 tags are wonderfull, but often stay unused...) Thanks, Stefan. I updated the website with your description. Folks, this is what we have so far, below. Not bad. For those of your who don't have descriptions in there yet, you still have time to send them to me. Now, let's make it even better. If you have the info, send me your website URL, and a direct URL to your picture and I'll post it on the website too. For example, I would need a url like: http://www.box.net/public/static/pdyjckglzv.jpg Kris ******************* Streaming File http://www.krispenhartung.com/loopers-delight-10year.m3u Individual Sound Clips and Descriptions Per Boysen - Sweden http://www.box.net/public/static/bprq0dbv3h.mp3 Tenor sax (Otto Link 9-star) analogically into FireworX digitally into Mobius/Laptop (Mobius standalone version, no VST plug-ins, basically only looping). Creating three loops to jump between while melody phrasing. Typically II: Tonica, Tonica, Subdominant, Dominant. Subdominant, Dominant :II A lot of "add9" coloring of chord voicing. When looping in this context it really is "backwards mixing" since all the stuff you traditionally do when finally mixing your tracks - like EQ'ing, coloring with effects etc to blend them - all of this I do directly as I play, sort of "as part of the instrument". The tool for that is some 25 patches in the FireworX that I have created for layering stuff in a way that they should all sound ok together, as a summed mix of loops/layers. As an example I have very few sounds with a "full timbre", simply because then I would not be able to loop in the essence of layering sound. The colliding frequencies would make the musical counter lines hard to follow. Another concept for "instant orchestration" in looping would be to bring dozens of instruments and swap between them while layering loops. But instead I have chosen to use fewer instruments and work on the sound for alternative expression. Rainer Straschill - M�nchen - Bayern http://www.box.net/public/static/u8g5d8pj7b.mp3 As some of you may know, I did not do any written compositions ever since the turn of the century...so this is, as all my stuff since then, more or less improvised (more or less means: for some of the stuff, I used some patches of a groove box, but not here, and not anymore). It's from part ii of my Ninjam session with Tony K, of which Tony has already posted the first part here: http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/RainerAndTony.mp3 So why didn't he post the second part as well? Sometime in the mid of the performance, I experienced some problems with tracks dropping out and returning. This is usually a result of high CPU load or network load on either end. So I went and configured around a little on my side, looking to get rid of the problem. When I did, I decided to do some a capella stuff (I guess this is even the first recorded a capella performance of mine). So what can you do with vocals, MadShifta, OhmBoyz Delay and Mobius? See my clip. This is a loop cut out from about ten minutes of performance, after which I started to wonder why Tony didn't play anything. Turned out that I had deactivated his stream on my side during my troubleshooting. Andy Butler - Norwich - UK http://www.box.net/public/static/q0xj2l170o.mp3 Doug Wyatt - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/4ehvcpim6o.mp3 Jon Wagner - Chapel Hill - North Carolina - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/kr2c0h2q5n.mp3 Joshua Carroll - Texas - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/y92pvlyi0y.mp3 Mine is likely the simplest recording in this collection, and I feel a little silly even having it included. This was my very first day of successful live-looping. I ran my Takamine acoustic guitar and old BOSS drum machine (played with my fingers, not sequenced) through an Alesis Studio24 mixer directly into the line-in on my laptop's internal sound card and looped using basic overdub on one track in Mobius. That's about as simple as it gets! Ra�l_Beniarr�s - CAT http://www.box.net/public/static/1udbvqs4hx.mp3 Steve Burnett - Raleigh - North Carolina - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/4jf31jax22.mp3 UNDO - David Kirkdorffer - Boston - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/p3s0dh7l7f.mp3 Fabio Anile - Rome - Italy http://www.box.net/public/static/h07yuy4mre.mp3 Mine was just an imporovvised recording with a DD20 loop and some sparse piano notes. Just for fun at night, before sleeping. Ted Killian - Medford - Oregon - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/xf3umzyacx.mp3 My little ditty is actually a tiny excerpt from an outtake that didn't make the final cut on my CD. I'm rather sorry that I didn't have time to record something new. Now, actually, I wish I had. Sometimes I just get lazy I guess. I want to participate but there are too many other things whirling around in my life at the moment. Anywho it's jut me an my trusty Gibson '77 RD Artist, fairly clean-toned, with Vortex, Sustainiac and 2 EDPs. Nothing really ground-breaking here. Just a way to pass the time. Michael Peters - Germany http://www.box.net/public/static/tzvsdsx94k.mp3 Electric guitar played live into a Digitech IPS33b with a pitch shifter + delay patch, then into a Vortex, then (using the mixer) back into the pitch shifter, ad infinitum. Milco Montagna - Italy http://www.box.net/public/static/scsgin9kck.mp3 The LD Chorus (Michael Peters) http://www.box.net/public/static/zenes07e76.mp3 The voices come from an online interactive text-to-speech software demo from AT&T (http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php) echoes and arrangement made in Adobe Audition Tim Nelson - Portland - Maine - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/18z3b7hgy7.mp3 My LD Birthday tune ('Decayed') is an exerpt from one of those gigs. I have no idea what the signal path was, but I know it was played on an old, beat-up Washburn Monterey acoustic to which I added active electronics. The loopers were a Boss RC-20 (old version), an Akai Headrush (old version) and a Line6 DL-4, and they were hooked up to a bizarre combination of a/b and a/b/c boxes and an AR.Acoustic amp, most likely in cahoots with a DigiVerb, either a Boss DD3 or a DigiDelay and definitely a volume pedal. Dan Montgomery - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/0qq5hseop1.mp3 "30 sec from Improv in Dm #37" My submission is from one in a series of meditations done either solo or with other players, most of whom have no experience looping other then what I impose on them. Some pieces are based on pre-programmed triggered MIDI loops from either a workstation keyboard (K2000) or Ableton Live with little on no live looping. Others, like this one, are fully spontaneous. In this instance, I developed a rhythmic 'drone' pad on the Repeater using voice and hand sounds and several passes of processed guitar (VG-88 v.2). The other players ad-libbed over this bed. My function was to establish and maintain a musical environment and leave room for them to dialogue. Open mics captured the room ambience which can be heard in the background. The result can be surprising; from fully chaotic to unexpectedly splendid. The entire piece developed slowly over 11 minutes; all in all, rather short. I hope you enjoy it. Rick walker - Santa Cruz - California - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/3u5p0r47ag.mp3 I record a lot of my live improvisational shows and for the last seven years I have only improvised live and not done any compositions (though I revisit sets of instruments and will have set scales/modes/rags/maqams and rhythms that I'm in love with for a while). Frequently, I'll go back to those shows and hunt down loops that I do want to use in my abstract electronica CDs (I have a tendency to alternate composed, computer driven abstract electronica recordings with live looping recordings). I did the same with this particular piece, throwing it into ACID to manipulate the loops I 'sampled' from my self. Anyway, this particular track was from a one off theme show that I did (I love to do theme oriented shows just once or twice) called 'Weird Kalimba" where, for the first time since the turn of the millennium I used only traditional West African, North African and Middleeastern instruments and did a very avant garde show with them. On this piece I used just West African rattles (several different kinds from bamboo rattles to seed pod gourds to even a South African set of rattles made out of the husks ofMoth chrysalises). I then used the Echoplex with INERT equaling SUBSTITUTE (one of my favorite techniques) and rounded to 8th notes so that singing long tones in a particular scale the EDP would grab individual 8th note values of long tones I was singing, randomly. I love to play this game randomly because the piece starts sound really weird and without formand the more you play the game, the more all 8 notes (or however many you choose) will fill up. By singing in falsetto, I can effect a loop that sounds as if the Pygmies of the Ituri Forest had accidentally drunk some on LSD spiked punch. The 'melody' is just me using a couple of different extended vocal techniques (warble singing and trill singing) along with a couple of interesting technique where 1) I pound rhythmically on my chest with my fist which causes very quick comb filtering effects to change the timbre of my voice as I also manipulate the overtones of my falsetto notes and 2) where is grab the loose skin just above my adams apple and shake it rhythmical which causes a very interesting modulation effect on the voice. Both of these techniques look really strange (as it does when I play my Filipino nose flute or manipulate the overtonesof my horribly phallic looking toy voice changer) and the audience will sometimes laugh when I do this but I think it produces really cool vocal effects. Daryl Shawn - Oaxaca - Mexico http://www.box.net/public/static/v87t829h3x.mp3 I'm lucky in that 30 seconds is the normal length of the loops I make, since they're 30-second cassettes. I did four tracks of improv nylon-string direct through a Studio Projects tube mic pre, into a Yamaha four-track. Two tracks are clean, two are fuzz (Effector13 TBD). I did a lot of pitch-shifting with the speed control, which shoots the tracks up an octave with a bit of a "whoosh" which I'm partial to. Overall, the low fidelity stands out compared to a lot of the other tracks, but that's part of what I like about the medium. Ingo A. - Stuttgart - Southern Germoney http://www.box.net/public/static/m75l7rojce.mp3 Kevin Cheli- Colando http://www.box.net/public/static/1x38r6rh3f.mp3 Luis Angulo - http://www.box.net/public/static/hdu66flopu.mp3 Neil Goldstein - Portland - Oregon - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/fvr7ummoin.mp3 Charlie Milkey - Wisconsin - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/1bmfgd572j.mp3 This is an ambient piece that I chopped 30 seconds out of; the setup was guitar->toneport->gearbox->garageband and the same with bass :) The song is based on a Spanish classical guitar piece titled "El Noi de la Mare" that Ihave been playing incorrectly ever since i first tryed playing it...mainly because Ihave never heard the song before :) I thought it sounded better this way :) Warren Sirota - Saudade http://www.box.net/public/static/32txsp0gl2.mp3 I was swimming in a pool of mercury, and when I emerged I had silver snakes instead of hair. And I shook off the snakes and revelled in the glory of sudden hairlessness, and realized this was my destiny, to wander smiling and naked through the world, reflecting. RP Collier - Portland - Oregon - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/qbpok022cb.mp3 The local newspaper in my berg hosted a ringtone contest last month and wanted 30 sec. max compositions, so I put together a track using thumb piano loops. The thumb piano is passed thru a ring mod filter but otherwise everything is simple and minimal. I put the track together as an alert chime sequence, then an urgency sequence where the rhythm is varied, and then a drone or holding sequence. I felt it would function well as a ringtone but the 3 judges deemed it unworthy of comment. The winners and honorable mentions were all multilayer/multivoice, Winner was drum/bass/synth/sample techno electronica, the 2nd Place entry was a flute sonata. I listened to all the contest entries and still feel that my little ditty works successfully, with just the right amount of "perky and quirky." But what do I know? I suppose it might have helped if I had ever actually owned a cell phone. Or maybe not. :-) Stefan Tiedje & Lutz Wernicke - Paris - France http://www.box.net/public/static/shro4khf1t.mp3 It was pretty simple out of my perspective, Lutz played violin, I treated the Ondes Memorielles. It is a Max patch with a mixer like setup of 8 phrase loops of up to 90 seconds and a tap delay (also 90 seconds) with 8 variable taps each is harmonized and could feedback into the tap input. A really cheezy reverb would add some air. The combination of harmonized feedback could create quite complex melodic and harmonic structures or textures...all this is controlled with a Faderbox from Fostex and a little Midi keyboard. Claude Voit - Switzerland http://www.box.net/public/static/rd6ms1a9og.mp3 Mark Christensen - Vermont - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/9qd1ez3h52.mp3 um... er... i snipped 30 seconds out of an improvised solo guitar looping...uh, something or other. i think this was done with my Frankenstrat, TC Electronics Sustainer, a Lexicon JamMan and a Vortex. waaaaaayyyyyyy stripped down for me. sounds like it was done during my "Vortex before the JamMan in the signal chain" period. Jeff Kaiser - Ventura - CA - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/v9ian8c0y9.mp3 So, I was working on some software for a friend....and made some loops making squeaky lip noises. This was done in one pass using the free Pluggo Jr. Plugins, Max/MSP Runtime and my free software available here: http://jeffkaiser.com/software.html Tony K - USA http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/TonyK_LD_BirthdayLoop.mp3 This is a snippet from a piece called Razorwire Necklace. Most of the effect is from my Adrenalinn, the ModFX Philter and a DL4 and DD20. One of them is set on reverse delay with 100 feedback. Krispen Hartung - Boise - ID - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/dd6ylydpqr.mp3 I did something a little out of my element here....okay, a lot out of my element! I pulled 30 seconds from a clip that I recorded very recently for Rick Walker to collaborate over, but rather than it being me on guitar (my primary instrument of 26 years), it is all vocal looping, just me on my Sure SM58 plugged into my laptop looping/effect system with Mobius. But you may not be able to tell that it is vocal only, as I was using some massive tone mangling VST effects, such as Reaktor, ring mod, octave, Cycling 74 Hipno, and a bunch of other layered effects that I can't recall. I liked the clip so much, that I think it's almost more experimental and avant-garde than my guitar material. Who knows, maybe I'll do a looping gig with just voice in the near future. The entire song was supposed to be called "Baby Zantac". Rick...you're up. BTW, if you want to hear here the full 5 min clip of madness, you can download or listen to it here: http://www.box.net/public/86akafpxhk Brian Good - Chesterland - OH - USA http://www.box.net/public/static/5mvbl832zg.mp3 Processed soprano sax, Apple Sculpture, Motu MX4, Spectrasonics Atmosphere and NI Absynth, along with four instances of Augustus Loop. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 13:59:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 616833BEEA; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0af401c6c205$6a1cb890$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20060817104654.70950.qmail@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: EXPLAIN your 10th Anniversary Birthday 30 second tune Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:59:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: <0-hAS.A.TeC.cZH5EB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:59:57 +0000 (UTC) BTW, I quickly did some lighening fast Googling of names on this page and found images and websites. Check it out. Hey, Claude, cool picture of you and that acoustic guitar! http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 20:09:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 014413BEE8; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0c0701c6c239$15740fd0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <006f01c6ac24$e6588980$6701a8c0@pantanolaptop1> <0df101c6ac26$29976440$f3b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <09db01c6c19d$70cf5520$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: AW: 10 year's anniversary of Looper's Delight ? Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:09:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:09:48 +0000 (UTC) By the way, everyone, if it is easier you can just send your 30 sec. MP3 clips to me via email. It's not a bandwidth problem for me. Include your name and location, description of the cllip, your website URL, and a direct URL to a jpg or gif (if you have one). http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm Cheers, Kris ************************************************************************** Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung My Tribe: http://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography (CDs for only $5): http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 21:18:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87E6A3BEE8; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0c3e01c6c242$a59281b0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <069801c6af2a$8b70f1c0$10b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Selling my hardware effect/looping system! (2 VF1s, Fireworx, Looperlative) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:18:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0C3B_01C6C210.5A035170" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:18:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0C3B_01C6C210.5A035170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I've decided to compromise and sell items from my looping/effects rack = separately rather than trying to sell the entire rack as a package deal = for $2400 (which I have dropped to $2000). Here is the breakdown: Looperlative LP1: $900 + shipping Boss VF1: $160 + shipping Boss VF1: I'm keeping this for now. Fireworx: $800 + shipping (Includes new version of software loaded and = on card) Or I'll still sell the entire rack now for $2000 + shipping, if anyone = wants to take the leap....still wired and ready to go in the rack. Kris http://www.krispenhartung.com/rack.htm (this sells as a system, = wired, and ready to go inside the rack) ************************************************* Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm Looper's Delight Playlist - = http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u ------=_NextPart_000_0C3B_01C6C210.5A035170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all,

I've decided to compromise and sell items from my=20 looping/effects rack separately rather than trying to sell the = entire rack=20 as a package deal for $2400 (which I have dropped to $2000).

Here is the breakdown:

Looperlative LP1: $900 + shipping

Boss VF1: $160 + shipping

Boss VF1: I'm keeping this for now.

Fireworx: $800 + shipping (Includes new version of software loaded = and on=20 card)

Or I'll still sell the entire rack now for $2000 + shipping, if = anyone=20 wants to take the leap....still wired and ready to go in the rack.

Kris

http://www.krispenhartung.com/rack.htm (this sells as a system, wired, and ready to go inside = the=20 rack)

*************************************************
Krispen = Hartung /=20 Improvisational Looping Guitar
www.krispenhartung.com = / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
info@krispenhartung.com /=20 1.208.724.5603
Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm
Looper's Delight Playlist - http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u

------=_NextPart_000_0C3B_01C6C210.5A035170-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 22:19:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7732C3BEE4; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:19:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Selling my hardware effect/looping system! (2 VF1s, Fireworx, Looperlative) From: Larry Stites To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0c3e01c6c242$a59281b0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3238672748_6545618" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:19:11 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3238672748_6545618 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ohhh =AD this looks like something I=B9d really like to have. Checking finances and will be in touch. Thanks for the offer =AD I=B9ve read about this unit but have not even been close to it. What=B9s your experience with the Looperlative? I have owned and sold two Echoplex Digital Loopers over the past couple of years. I just don=B9t like the complexity, mono out, number of buttons required to get desired effect... If you can please tell me about the Looperlative. Regards, -Larry Stites- Nevada City, CA 95959 530 320 4194 24/7 ncnet@sbcglobal.net AOL IM: LESGGN on 8/17/06 2:18 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Looperlative LP1: $900 + shipping --B_3238672748_6545618 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Selling my hardware effect/looping system! (2 VF1s, Fireworx, Lo= operlative) Ohhh = – this looks like something I’d really like to have.
Checking finances and will be in touch.
Thanks for the offer – I’ve read about this unit but have not e= ven been close to it.
What’s your experience with the Looperlative?

I have owned and sold two Echoplex Digital Loopers over the past couple of = years.
I just don’t like the complexity, mono out, number of buttons require= d to get desired effect...
If you can please tell me about the Looperlative.

Regards,

-Larry Stites-
Nevada City, CA 95959
530 320 4194 24/7
ncnet@sbcglobal.net
AOL IM: LESGGN

on 8/17/06 2:18 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Looperlative LP1: $900 + shipping

--B_3238672748_6545618-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 22:24:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFD733BEEC; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0c8c01c6c24b$ed297250$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Selling my hardware effect/looping system! (2 VF1s, Fireworx, Looperlative) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:24:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0C87_01C6C219.A1ACDFB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:24:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0C87_01C6C219.A1ACDFB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Selling my hardware effect/looping system! (2 VF1s, Fireworx, = Looperlative)Someone beat you too it, Larry. Wow, that was fast! We'll = have a new lucky owner of the LP1 here shortly. Selling this unit does = not happen for me without some reservations. There isn't a day that goes = buy when I don't look at my rack in the corner, and the LP1, and admire = it. But, with the lappy doing everything I need, I have to clean house. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Larry Stites=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Selling my hardware effect/looping system! (2 VF1s, = Fireworx, Looperlative) Ohhh - this looks like something I'd really like to have.=20 Checking finances and will be in touch.=20 Thanks for the offer - I've read about this unit but have not even = been close to it. What's your experience with the Looperlative? I have owned and sold two Echoplex Digital Loopers over the past = couple of years. I just don't like the complexity, mono out, number of buttons required = to get desired effect...=20 If you can please tell me about the Looperlative. Regards, -Larry Stites- Nevada City, CA 95959 530 320 4194 24/7 ncnet@sbcglobal.net AOL IM: LESGGN on 8/17/06 2:18 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: Looperlative LP1: $900 + shipping ------=_NextPart_000_0C87_01C6C219.A1ACDFB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Selling my hardware effect/looping system! (2 = VF1s, Fireworx, Looperlative)

Someone beat you too it, Larry. Wow, = that was=20 fast! We'll have a new lucky owner of the LP1 here shortly. = Selling=20 this unit does not happen for me without some reservations. There isn't = a day=20 that goes buy when I don't look at my rack in the corner, and the LP1, = and=20 admire it. But, with the lappy doing everything I need, I have to clean=20 house.

Kris

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Larry=20 Stites

To: Loopers = Delight

Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 = 4:19=20 PM

Subject: Re: Selling my = hardware=20 effect/looping system! (2 VF1s, Fireworx, Looperlative)

Ohhh =96 this looks like something I=92d = really like to=20 have.
Checking finances and will be in touch.
Thanks for the = offer =96=20 I=92ve read about this unit but have not even been close to = it.
What=92s your=20 experience with the Looperlative?

I have owned and sold two = Echoplex=20 Digital Loopers over the past couple of years.
I just don=92t like = the=20 complexity, mono out, number of buttons required to get desired = effect...=20
If you can please tell me about the=20 Looperlative.

Regards,

-Larry Stites-
Nevada = City, CA=20 95959
530 320 4194 24/7
ncnet@sbcglobal.net
AOL IM:=20 LESGGN

on 8/17/06 2:18 PM, Krispen Hartung=20 wrote:

Looperlative LP1:=20 $900 + shipping

------=_NextPart_000_0C87_01C6C219.A1ACDFB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 22:29:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50B723BEF6; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loop List Message-Id: <3DF83749-44D3-4991-8E13-E16277604DAC@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--694606996 From: Steve Lawson Subject: About the looperlative (was about Krispen selling his gear) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:28:55 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:29:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11--694606996 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed >>>I have owned and sold two Echoplex Digital Loopers over the past =20 couple of years. I just don=92t like the complexity, mono out, number of buttons =20 required to get desired effect... If you can please tell me about the Looperlative.<<< Larry, check out the forum at www.looperlative.com - loads of discussion and =20= description here. it's a pretty amazing unit, and the MIDI-learn options make getting a =20= pedal board to do what you want with the minimum number of button =20 pushes is very easy. cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --Apple-Mail-11--694606996 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 >>>I have owned and = sold two Echoplex Digital Loopers over the past couple of = years.

I just don=92t like the complexity, mono out, = number of buttons required to get desired effect...=A0

If you can please = tell me about the Looperlative.<<<

Larry,=A0

check out the forum at www.looperlative.com - loads of = discussion and description here.=A0

it's a pretty = amazing unit, and the MIDI-learn options make getting a pedal board to = do what you want with the minimum number of button pushes is very = easy.=A0

cheers

http://steve.anthropiccollec= tive.org - = blog

www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson

= --Apple-Mail-11--694606996-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 23:38:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C07A3BEE2; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [63.193.17.193] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20060802151112.C33753BED8@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: remix anyone? Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:38:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2006 23:38:20.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[392A3040:01C6C256] Resent-Message-ID: <43IEMC.A.ljF.v3P5EB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Slice up Palast, win a prize for it, or vote on the best hack-job -- in the absolutely fantabulous re-mix contest sponsored by Creative Commons and Air America Radio. Win immortal glory in the first-ever competition to mash up an audio book -- Greg Palast's New York Times bestseller, "Armed Madhouse." All members of the public are invited to download recordings of the book by Jello Biafra, Amy Goodman, Larry David, Janeane Garofalo and other troublemakers and create your own version, with original music, sounds and beats of your own making. Win, prizes, love, respect and publicity from our sponsors including Alternative Tentacles, Simon & Schuster, Hollywood Can Suck It, Penguin/Dutton, Lost Film Fest and the Palast Investigative Fund. Here's how the contest works: 1) We have uploaded 19 tracks from the audio version of Armed Madhouse. Aside from Palast reading throughout, you can also remix: - Ed Asner reading from the section on globalization madness, "The Network." - Brod Bagert as "Fishhead" reading about Dick Cheney's sex-life and The Big Easy - Medea Benjamin & Kevin Danaher reading about Paul Bremer and the reconstruction (re-destruction?) of Iraq - Jello Biafra as the voice of Osama bin Laden - Randy Credico as George W. Bush - Mark Crispin Miller as Thomas Friedman - Larry David screaming, "Kerry Won!" - Brad Friedman as lobbyist sick-o Grover Norquist - Janeane Garofalo as Mindy Tucker Fletcher - Amy Goodman reading about Dr. A.Q. Khan - Jim Hightower reading about James Baker and whorehouses in Texas - Greg Proops as Lawrence of Arabia and Winston Churchill - Jerry Quickley reading the "Great Brown Ballot Boycott" - Randi Rhodes reading from the chapter on how the Bush regime had its sticky little hands on Iraq's oil - Shiva Rose as Katherine Harris 2) Listen to, and then download, these tracks at www.gregpalast.com/remix -- re-mix'm all or parts of them, with music or sound effects. Create as many as you like. 3) When you are finished remixing, sampling, and/or mashing 'em up -- send us either a link to download your submission(s) or the submission itself (as an mp3 file) to submitremix(AT)gregpalast.com 4) We will then put your submissions on to the Armed Madhouse Remix site and anyone who wants to cast a vote on your track can do so on our mix-tape page. We'll leave it up to the general public to decide how brilliant, mediocre or horrendous your remixes are. We are offering the tracks under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial license so that producers worldwide can use the audio in remixes and new compositions. It is absolutely free to participate in the contest -- all you have to do is agree that neither you nor anyone else will charge for the remix you produce -- and that you accept Creative Commons' rules that all material is available for public non-commercial download and use (with, of course, attribution to you as the producer). DEADLINE: You have until October 23rd 2006 to submit your track and all voting will conclude on October 30th 2006. Winners will be announced on Friday, November 3rd 2006. INCREDIBLE SWAG: Kick their asses and win a bunch of quasi-useless prizes and UNLIMITED GLORY. The top 5 winners will be selected by the general public by casting votes on the Armed Madhouse Remix website. Be sure to vote wisely as you can only vote once per track. These top tracks will be featured on our website as well as some of our sponsor's sites -- and may even get air time on Air America Radio! We will also feature the top 5 tracks on our next spoken-word cd with Alternative Tentacles Records. The producers of these tracks will receive: - The original 5 CD audio book of Armed Madhouse (from Simon & Schuster) read by Palast and friends; - The hard-bound book, "Armed Madhouse" (from Dutton), - Winston Smith's frame-ready four color blow-you-away poster of the "Armed Madhouse" - The spoken-word cd, "Weapon of Mass Instruction" (Alternative Tentacles), - The BBC documentary on dvd, "Bush Family Fortunes" (Disinformation Co.), - An Air America package - A Lost Film Fest / Evil Twin Booking / Hollywood Can Suck It package The Palast Investigative Fund is a non-profit organization that supports those investigations which are too difficult, risky, costly, controversial or difficult for American newspapers, radio and television to attempt. We pursue these investigations and then disseminate these reports through traditional and new media -- with an emphasis on reaching individuals and organizations whose goal it is to affect police and systemic change. We need your support -- please visit http://www.gregpalast.com/premiums.htm for more info and to make a donation today. You may change your email address or unsubscribe from the newsletter member page. (If you don't have a password for the member page, you can From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 17 23:40:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C094C3BEF6; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [63.193.17.193] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20060802151112.C33753BED8@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: remix contest Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:40:10 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2006 23:40:11.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[7AE0D9D0:01C6C256] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Slice up Palast, win a prize for it, or vote on the best hack-job -- in the absolutely fantabulous re-mix contest sponsored by Creative Commons and Air America Radio. Win immortal glory in the first-ever competition to mash up an audio book -- Greg Palast's New York Times bestseller, "Armed Madhouse." All members of the public are invited to download recordings of the book by Jello Biafra, Amy Goodman, Larry David, Janeane Garofalo and other troublemakers and create your own version, with original music, sounds and beats of your own making. Win, prizes, love, respect and publicity from our sponsors including Alternative Tentacles, Simon & Schuster, Hollywood Can Suck It, Penguin/Dutton, Lost Film Fest and the Palast Investigative Fund. Here's how the contest works: 1) We have uploaded 19 tracks from the audio version of Armed Madhouse. Aside from Palast reading throughout, you can also remix: - Ed Asner reading from the section on globalization madness, "The Network." - Brod Bagert as "Fishhead" reading about Dick Cheney's sex-life and The Big Easy - Medea Benjamin & Kevin Danaher reading about Paul Bremer and the reconstruction (re-destruction?) of Iraq - Jello Biafra as the voice of Osama bin Laden - Randy Credico as George W. Bush - Mark Crispin Miller as Thomas Friedman - Larry David screaming, "Kerry Won!" - Brad Friedman as lobbyist sick-o Grover Norquist - Janeane Garofalo as Mindy Tucker Fletcher - Amy Goodman reading about Dr. A.Q. Khan - Jim Hightower reading about James Baker and whorehouses in Texas - Greg Proops as Lawrence of Arabia and Winston Churchill - Jerry Quickley reading the "Great Brown Ballot Boycott" - Randi Rhodes reading from the chapter on how the Bush regime had its sticky little hands on Iraq's oil - Shiva Rose as Katherine Harris 2) Listen to, and then download, these tracks at www.gregpalast.com/remix -- re-mix'm all or parts of them, with music or sound effects. Create as many as you like. 3) When you are finished remixing, sampling, and/or mashing 'em up -- send us either a link to download your submission(s) or the submission itself (as an mp3 file) to submitremix(AT)gregpalast.com 4) We will then put your submissions on to the Armed Madhouse Remix site and anyone who wants to cast a vote on your track can do so on our mix-tape page. We'll leave it up to the general public to decide how brilliant, mediocre or horrendous your remixes are. We are offering the tracks under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial license so that producers worldwide can use the audio in remixes and new compositions. It is absolutely free to participate in the contest -- all you have to do is agree that neither you nor anyone else will charge for the remix you produce -- and that you accept Creative Commons' rules that all material is available for public non-commercial download and use (with, of course, attribution to you as the producer). DEADLINE: You have until October 23rd 2006 to submit your track and all voting will conclude on October 30th 2006. Winners will be announced on Friday, November 3rd 2006. INCREDIBLE SWAG: Kick their asses and win a bunch of quasi-useless prizes and UNLIMITED GLORY. The top 5 winners will be selected by the general public by casting votes on the Armed Madhouse Remix website. Be sure to vote wisely as you can only vote once per track. These top tracks will be featured on our website as well as some of our sponsor's sites -- and may even get air time on Air America Radio! We will also feature the top 5 tracks on our next spoken-word cd with Alternative Tentacles Records. The producers of these tracks will receive: - The original 5 CD audio book of Armed Madhouse (from Simon & Schuster) read by Palast and friends; - The hard-bound book, "Armed Madhouse" (from Dutton), - Winston Smith's frame-ready four color blow-you-away poster of the "Armed Madhouse" - The spoken-word cd, "Weapon of Mass Instruction" (Alternative Tentacles), - The BBC documentary on dvd, "Bush Family Fortunes" (Disinformation Co.), - An Air America package - A Lost Film Fest / Evil Twin Booking / Hollywood Can Suck It package The Palast Investigative Fund is a non-profit organization that supports those investigations which are too difficult, risky, costly, controversial or difficult for American newspapers, radio and television to attempt. We pursue these investigations and then disseminate these reports through traditional and new media -- with an emphasis on reaching individuals and organizations whose goal it is to affect police and systemic change. We need your support -- please visit http://www.gregpalast.com/premiums.htm for more info and to make a donation today. You may change your email address or unsubscribe from the newsletter member page. (If you don't have a password for the member page, you can From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 02:34:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02DA73BEEC; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 02:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0d2c01c6c26e$c94289d0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: RCF Powered PA Cabs Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:34:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0D29_01C6C23C.7DC16350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 02:34:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0D29_01C6C23C.7DC16350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I talked to a sales engineer at Sweetwater this morning about purchasing = one of the Mackie 10" powered cabs, and he highly recommended that I buy = the new RCF Italian made cabinets. Apparently, they did some A/B tests = this morning between them and the Mackie's and the RCF's blew them = away...and the prices are really good. Apparently Mackie acquired RCF = several years ago because of their high quality transducers, and then = Mackie went off to change their specs and design, but RCF continued on = with their own line (now separate from Mackie). I guess Mackie farmed = their manufacturing off to China, and RCF remained as they are now in = Italy. I don't know the complexities of the split. Here is an = interesting discussion on the split on the Mackie forum: = http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=3Dget_topic;f=3D= 7;t=3D002178 (the comments vary, but a few folks talk highly of the RCF = line). Check it out. I'm thinking of buying the 10" cab. http://www.rcfaudio.com/VediMacro.phtml?IDMacro=3D1652&menuAttivo=3D1652 = (view the ART series cabs) I found a new ART 310 A on the web for $400. Anyone using these cabs?=20 Kris *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung My Tribe: http://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartung=20 info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography (CDs for only $5): http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_0D29_01C6C23C.7DC16350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I talked to a sales engineer at = Sweetwater this=20 morning about purchasing one of the Mackie 10" powered cabs, and he = highly=20 recommended that I buy the new RCF Italian made cabinets. Apparently, = they did=20 some A/B tests this morning between them and the Mackie's and the RCF's = blew=20 them away...and the prices are really good. Apparently = Mackie=20 acquired RCF several years ago because of their high quality = transducers, and=20 then Mackie went off to change their specs and design, but RCF continued = on with=20 their own line (now separate from Mackie). I guess Mackie = farmed=20 their manufacturing off to China, and RCF remained as they are now in = Italy. I=20 don't know the complexities of the split. Here is an interesting = discussion on=20 the split on the Mackie forum: http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ultimatebb.= cgi?ubb=3Dget_topic;f=3D7;t=3D002178 (the=20 comments vary, but a few folks talk highly of the RCF = line).

Check it out. I'm thinking of buying = the 10"=20 cab.

http://www.rcfaudio.com/VediMacro.phtml?IDMacro=3D1652&m= enuAttivo=3D1652 (view=20 the ART series cabs)

I found a new ART 310 A on the web for=20 $400.

Anyone using these cabs?

Kris

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Krispen=20 Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar
www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhar= tung
My=20 Tribe: http://people.tribe.net/= krispen-hartung=20
info@krispenhartung.com /=20 1.208.724.5603
Discography - http://www.krispenha= rtung.com/catalogue.htm
CD=20 Baby Discography (CDs for only $5): http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung=20

------=_NextPart_000_0D29_01C6C23C.7DC16350-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 09:37:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 510403BEE2; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=toSrFzIZ0m6BcXYZ0L+hMtumPVBukfasm7aP5XnmDl8fPDcPI767JWZelvh/bY13T6RBtwjmeNSNn4psX3YSbQMGgA1KtuP6pdn168TzpQ3NOsONFHrwl4bWRH2/YTF9jdBj45N8/VyaoBDmuj7kojSf60R0Ba1uXSjmyO31Ud4= ; Message-ID: <20060818093732.21411.qmail@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 02:37:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <413B42E5-37DF-4538-A062-96128D7EA6FB@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:37:34 +0000 (UTC) wonderful Per! this should be somewhere in the fore front of the loopers-delight website! cheers Luis --- Per Boysen wrote: > This handy chart is a leftover from a magazine > article I wrote. Might > be helpful for comparing different looping devices: > http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php > > Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 > unit for > testing! ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 10:17:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92D903BEEA; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loop List Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14--652079762 From: Steve Lawson Subject: bass/bass/drums gig in London and a recommendation... Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:17:42 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:17:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-14--652079762 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Loopists, I've got a great gig coming up next week, one of my Recycle =20 Collective shows ( www.recyclecollective.com ) - featuring Sebastian =20 Rochford on drums, from the band Polar Bear, who were nominated for =20 the Mercury Music Prize last year - he's a fantastically intuitive =20 drummer, the only acoustic drummer I've ever played with who could =20 adapt well to playing with my looping. I'm hoping I'll be able to get =20= a mic or two set up and loop him as well. And on acoustic bass, Andy Hamill, who's played with 4 Hero, Carleen =20 Anderson, Shea Seger, Theo Travis, Mark Murphy, Nitin Sawhney, Chris =20 Bowden, Boris Grebenshikov, Cara Dillon, Tracey Thorn, Kylie Minogue, =20= Ben Castle, Ursula Rucker and Harry Hill! I'll definitely be looping =20 him, and he'll be doing some solo loopy stuff for acoustic bass and =20 harmonica. It's at Darbucka World Music bar in Clerkenwell on Wed 23rd August, =20 doors 7pm, music starts 8pm, restaurant open upstairs before that. =20 Tickets are =A37 / =A35 concs (MU/OAP/SU etc. bring proof). = www.darbucka.com And a recommendation - don't know how many of you are hip to Leo =20 Abrahams, but he's one of the most in demand guitarists in London, =20 having being Brian Eno's sidekick for a few years, and played with =20 Imogen Heap, Paul Simon, Nick Cave, David Holmes, Roxy Music, Nik =20 Kershaw etc etc. Anyway, he's got two absolutely beautiful looped =20 guitar records out - Honeytrap, which is big on tunes and harmonies, =20 and his new one Scene Memory, which is a really lush ambient record. =20 Both are fantastic, and highly recommended - www.leoabrahams.com and =20 www.myspace.com/leoabrahams Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --Apple-Mail-14--652079762 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Loopists,=A0

I've got a great gig coming = up next week, one of my Recycle Collective shows ( www.recyclecollective.com = ) - featuring Sebastian Rochford on drums, from the band Polar Bear, who = were nominated for the Mercury Music Prize last year - he's a = fantastically intuitive drummer, the only acoustic drummer I've ever = played with who could adapt well to playing with my looping. I'm hoping = I'll be able to get a mic or two set up and loop him as = well.=A0

And = on acoustic bass, Andy Hamill, who's played with=A04 Hero, Carleen Anderson, = Shea Seger, Theo Travis, Mark Murphy, Nitin Sawhney, Chris Bowden, Boris = Grebenshikov, Cara Dillon, Tracey Thorn, Kylie Minogue, Ben Castle, = Ursula Rucker and Harry Hill!=A0I'll definitely be looping him, and he'll be doing = some solo loopy stuff for acoustic bass and = harmonica.=A0

It's at Darbucka World Music = bar in Clerkenwell on Wed 23rd August, doors 7pm, music starts 8pm, = restaurant open upstairs before that. Tickets are =A37 / =A35 concs = (MU/OAP/SU etc. bring proof). www.darbucka.com

And a recommendation=A0 - = don't know how many of you are hip to Leo Abrahams, but he's one of the = most in demand guitarists in London, having being Brian Eno's sidekick = for a few years, and played with Imogen Heap, Paul Simon, Nick Cave, = David Holmes, Roxy Music, Nik Kershaw etc etc. Anyway, he's got two = absolutely beautiful looped guitar records out - Honeytrap, which is big = on tunes and harmonies, and his new one Scene Memory, which is a really = lush ambient record. Both are fantastic, and highly recommended - www.leoabrahams.com and www.myspace.com/leoabrahams

http://steve.anthropiccollec= tive.org - = blog

www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson

= --Apple-Mail-14--652079762-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 13:34:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 522353BEEA; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PgPxQw8MQYP5vq7SxL7NhS2M5B7UmYCQ5VI3hzQKOyCpXPiwGK6wbJBlhOwnLdDeAntuHqdIrr/O4G+w+yLfxw2sDj8Jv4uZxN/CcqqkfuKE1Tq/GjxtlPsn1ApXoUg8lJ7kMPdNcii37pkTddglfWUiCVdQNfl8YSRz+3QqNIQ= Message-ID: <26ba8d120608180634s2030f862t8cf535af6e2b857@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:34:38 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping device comparison chart updated with RC-50 In-Reply-To: <20060818093732.21411.qmail@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <413B42E5-37DF-4538-A062-96128D7EA6FB@gmail.com> <20060818093732.21411.qmail@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 252f33508cdd003b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:34:40 +0000 (UTC) great stuff, Per! some notes. replace "unsuable" with "unusable" replace "lenght" with "length" the looperlative "time stretching" column should say "no", not "noe". You might consider a column marked Notes: that leads to a text comment below: "RC-50 glitches on first playback of a loop" On 8/18/06, L.A. Angulo wrote: > wonderful Per! this should be somewhere in the fore > front of the loopers-delight website! > cheers > Luis > > --- Per Boysen wrote: > > > This handy chart is a leftover from a magazine > > article I wrote. Might > > be helpful for comparing different looping devices: > > http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php > > > > Thank you Roland Scandinavia for lending me an RC-50 > > unit for > > testing! ;-) > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 14:24:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A79E73BEE6; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <0d2c01c6c26e$c94289d0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <0d2c01c6c26e$c94289d0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--637278137 Message-Id: <2cf5913089f74501b5e2ccfbd3c783db@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: OT: RCF Powered PA Cabs Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:24:24 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:24:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--637278137 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed I've used them in the past and thought they sounded great. I didn't =20 know they were still available! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 17-Aug-06, at 7:34 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I talked to a sales engineer at Sweetwater this morning about =20 > purchasing one of the Mackie 10" powered cabs, and he highly =20 > recommended that I buy the new RCF Italian made cabinets. Apparently, =20= > they did some A/B tests this morning between them and the Mackie's and = =20 > the RCF's blew them away...and the prices are really good.=A0=A0 =20 > Apparently Mackie acquired RCF several years ago because of their high = =20 > quality transducers, and then Mackie went off to change their specs =20= > and design, but RCF continued on with their own line (now separate =20 > from Mackie).=A0 I guess=A0Mackie farmed their manufacturing off to = China, =20 > and RCF remained as they are now in Italy. I don't know the =20 > complexities of the split. Here is an interesting discussion on the =20= > split on the Mackie forum: =20 > http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=3Dget_topic;=20= > f=3D7;t=3D002178=A0(the comments vary, but a few folks talk highly of = the =20 > RCF line). > =A0 > Check it out. I'm thinking of buying the 10" cab. > =A0 > http://www.rcfaudio.com/VediMacro.phtml?=20 > IDMacro=3D1652&menuAttivo=3D1652=A0(view the ART series cabs) > =A0 > I found a new ART 310 A on the web for $400. > =A0 > Anyone using these cabs? > =A0 > Kris > =A0 > =A0 > = ***********************************************************************=20= > *** > Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > My Tribe: http://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm > CD Baby Discography (CDs for only $5): http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung=20= --Apple-Mail-1--637278137 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've used them in the past and thought they sounded great. I didn't know they were still available! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 17-Aug-06, at 7:34 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: ArialI talked to a sales engineer at Sweetwater this morning about purchasing one of the Mackie 10" powered cabs, and he highly recommended that I buy the new RCF Italian made cabinets. Apparently, they did some A/B tests this morning between them and the Mackie's and the RCF's blew them away...and the prices are really good.=A0=A0 Apparently Mackie acquired RCF several years ago because of their high quality transducers, and then Mackie went off to change their specs and design, but RCF continued on with their own line (now separate from Mackie).=A0 I guess=A0Mackie farmed their manufacturing off to China, and RCF remained as they are now in Italy. I don't know the complexities of the split. Here is an interesting discussion on the split on the Mackie forum: = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum= /ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=3Dget_topic;f=3D7;t=3D002178=A0(the comments vary, but a few folks talk highly of the RCF = line). =A0 ArialCheck it out. I'm thinking of buying the 10" cab. =A0 = Arial0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.rcfaudio.com/VediMacro.phtml?IDMacro=3D1652&menuAttivo=3D165= 2=A0(view the ART series cabs) =A0 ArialI found a new ART 310 A on the web for $400. =A0 ArialAnyone using these = cabs? =A0 ArialKris =A0 =A0 = Arial*********************************= ***************************************** ArialKrispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar = Arial0000,0000,EEEEwww.krispenhartung.com / = 0000,0000,EEEEwww.myspace.com/krispenhartung= ArialMy Tribe: = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartun= g = Arial0000,0000,EEEEinfo@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 ArialDiscography - = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogu= e.htm ArialCD Baby Discography (CDs for only $5): = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://cdbaby.com/all/khartung= = --Apple-Mail-1--637278137-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 14:36:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D38203BEEC; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0dd401c6c2d3$ac8b34d0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0d2c01c6c26e$c94289d0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <2cf5913089f74501b5e2ccfbd3c783db@glasswing.com> Subject: Re: OT: RCF Powered PA Cabs Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:36:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0DD1_01C6C2A1.610E7B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: <1Ms_BC.A.YlF.oBd5EB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:36:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0DD1_01C6C2A1.610E7B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, i'm reading even more rave reviews. I just bought two of the 10" = cabs! For only $400 each, no shipping! http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=3D56951&from=3Dfroogle= My PA system is now complete...I have two EV SxA100 Powered 12" cabs for = my mains, and now these RCF cabs for monitors, or smaller = coffeeshop/club gigs. I will be curious to hear one of these RCF cabs = with my nylon string guitar too. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sales=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Re: OT: RCF Powered PA Cabs I've used them in the past and thought they sounded great. I didn't = know they were still available! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 17-Aug-06, at 7:34 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: I talked to a sales engineer at Sweetwater this morning about = purchasing one of the Mackie 10" powered cabs, and he highly recommended = that I buy the new RCF Italian made cabinets. Apparently, they did some = A/B tests this morning between them and the Mackie's and the RCF's blew = them away...and the prices are really good. Apparently Mackie acquired = RCF several years ago because of their high quality transducers, and = then Mackie went off to change their specs and design, but RCF continued = on with their own line (now separate from Mackie). I guess Mackie = farmed their manufacturing off to China, and RCF remained as they are = now in Italy. I don't know the complexities of the split. Here is an = interesting discussion on the split on the Mackie forum: = http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=3Dget_topic;f=3D= 7;t=3D002178 (the comments vary, but a few folks talk highly of the RCF = line). =20 Check it out. I'm thinking of buying the 10" cab. =20 = http://www.rcfaudio.com/VediMacro.phtml?IDMacro=3D1652&menuAttivo=3D1652 = (view the ART series cabs) =20 I found a new ART 310 A on the web for $400. =20 Anyone using these cabs? =20 Kris =20 =20 = *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung My Tribe: http://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartung=20 info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography (CDs for only $5): = http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_0DD1_01C6C2A1.610E7B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah, i'm reading even more rave = reviews. I just=20 bought two of the 10" cabs! For only $400 each, no = shipping!

http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=3D56951&= amp;from=3Dfroogle

My PA system is now complete...I have = two EV SxA100=20 Powered 12" cabs for my mains, and now these RCF cabs for monitors, or = smaller=20 coffeeshop/club gigs. I will be curious to hear one of these RCF = cabs with=20 my nylon string guitar too.

Kris

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard=20 Sales

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 = 8:24=20 AM

Subject: Re: OT: RCF Powered PA = Cabs

I've used them in the past and thought they sounded = great. I=20 didn't know they were still available!
richard=20 sales
glassWing farm and=20 studio
vancouver island, = b.c.
800.545.6846
250.752.4816
www.glassWing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com
www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
On=20 17-Aug-06, at 7:34 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

I talked to a sales=20 engineer at Sweetwater this morning about purchasing one of the = Mackie 10"=20 powered cabs, and he highly recommended that I buy the new RCF = Italian made=20 cabinets. Apparently, they did some A/B tests this morning between = them and=20 the Mackie's and the RCF's blew them away...and the prices are = really=20 good. Apparently Mackie acquired RCF several years ago = because=20 of their high quality transducers, and then Mackie went off to = change their=20 specs and design, but RCF continued on with their own line (now = separate=20 from Mackie). I guess Mackie farmed their manufacturing = off to=20 China, and RCF remained as they are now in Italy. I don't know the=20 complexities of the split. Here is an interesting discussion on the = split on=20 the Mackie forum:=20 http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=3D= get_topic;f=3D7;t=3D002178 (the=20 comments vary, but a few folks talk highly of the RCF = line).

Check=20 it out. I'm thinking of buying the 10"=20 cab.

http://www.rcfaudio.com/VediMacro.phtml?IDMacro=3D= 1652&menuAttivo=3D1652 (view=20 the ART series = cabs)

I=20 found a new ART 310 A on the web for=20 $400.

Anyone=20 using these = cabs?

Kris

*********************************************************= *****************
Krispen=20 Hartung / Improvisational Looping = Guitar
www.krispenhartung.com=20 / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
My=20 Tribe:=20 http://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartung=20
info@krispenhartung.com=20 / 1.208.724.5603
Discography=20 - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm
CD=20 Baby Discography (CDs for only $5):=20 http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung =

------=_NextPart_000_0DD1_01C6C2A1.610E7B20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 15:35:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0BB63BEEE; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0e2c01c6c2db$e5280770$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: RCF Powered PA Cabs Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:35:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E29_01C6C2A9.99961810" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:35:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E29_01C6C2A9.99961810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whoops....I linked to the passive speakers, here are the active: http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=3D56950 $525 not $400. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:36 AM Subject: Re: OT: RCF Powered PA Cabs Yeah, i'm reading even more rave reviews. I just bought two of the 10" = cabs! For only $400 each, no shipping! = http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=3D56951&from=3Dfroogle= My PA system is now complete...I have two EV SxA100 Powered 12" cabs = for my mains, and now these RCF cabs for monitors, or smaller = coffeeshop/club gigs. I will be curious to hear one of these RCF cabs = with my nylon string guitar too. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sales=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Re: OT: RCF Powered PA Cabs I've used them in the past and thought they sounded great. I didn't = know they were still available! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 17-Aug-06, at 7:34 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: I talked to a sales engineer at Sweetwater this morning about = purchasing one of the Mackie 10" powered cabs, and he highly recommended = that I buy the new RCF Italian made cabinets. Apparently, they did some = A/B tests this morning between them and the Mackie's and the RCF's blew = them away...and the prices are really good. Apparently Mackie acquired = RCF several years ago because of their high quality transducers, and = then Mackie went off to change their specs and design, but RCF continued = on with their own line (now separate from Mackie). I guess Mackie = farmed their manufacturing off to China, and RCF remained as they are = now in Italy. I don't know the complexities of the split. Here is an = interesting discussion on the split on the Mackie forum: = http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=3Dget_topic;f=3D= 7;t=3D002178 (the comments vary, but a few folks talk highly of the RCF = line). =20 Check it out. I'm thinking of buying the 10" cab. =20 = http://www.rcfaudio.com/VediMacro.phtml?IDMacro=3D1652&menuAttivo=3D1652 = (view the ART series cabs) =20 I found a new ART 310 A on the web for $400. =20 Anyone using these cabs? =20 Kris =20 =20 = *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung My Tribe: http://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartung=20 info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography (CDs for only $5): = http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_0E29_01C6C2A9.99961810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Whoops....I linked to the passive speakers, here are the = active:

http:= //www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=3D56950<= /DIV>

$525 not $400.

Kris

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 = 8:36=20 AM

Subject: Re: OT: RCF Powered PA = Cabs

Yeah, i'm reading even more rave = reviews. I just=20 bought two of the 10" cabs! For only $400 each, no=20 shipping!

http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=3D56951&= amp;from=3Dfroogle

My PA system is now complete...I have = two EV=20 SxA100 Powered 12" cabs for my mains, and now these RCF cabs for = monitors, or=20 smaller coffeeshop/club gigs. I will be curious to hear one of = these RCF=20 cabs with my nylon string guitar too.

Kris

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard=20 Sales

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 = 8:24=20 AM

Subject: Re: OT: RCF Powered = PA=20 Cabs

I've used them in the past and thought they sounded = great. I=20 didn't know they were still=20 available!
richard = sales
glassWing farm and=20 studio
vancouver island, = b.c.
800.545.6846
250.752.4816
www.glassWing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com
www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
On=20 17-Aug-06, at 7:34 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

I talked to a sales = engineer at Sweetwater this morning about purchasing one of the = Mackie 10"=20 powered cabs, and he highly recommended that I buy the new RCF = Italian=20 made cabinets. Apparently, they did some A/B tests this morning = between=20 them and the Mackie's and the RCF's blew them away...and the = prices are=20 really good. Apparently Mackie acquired RCF several = years ago=20 because of their high quality transducers, and then Mackie went = off to=20 change their specs and design, but RCF continued on with their own = line=20 (now separate from Mackie). I guess Mackie farmed their = manufacturing off to China, and RCF remained as they are now in = Italy. I=20 don't know the complexities of the split. Here is an interesting=20 discussion on the split on the Mackie forum: http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=3D= get_topic;f=3D7;t=3D002178 (the=20 comments vary, but a few folks talk highly of the RCF = line).

Check=20 it out. I'm thinking of buying the 10"=20 cab.

http://www.rcfaudio.com/VediMacro.phtml?IDMacro=3D= 1652&menuAttivo=3D1652 (view=20 the ART series = cabs)

I=20 found a new ART 310 A on the web for=20 $400.

Anyone=20 using these = cabs?

Kris

*********************************************************= *****************
Krispen=20 Hartung / Improvisational Looping = Guitar
www.krispenhartung.com=20 / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
My=20 Tribe:=20 http://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartung=20
info@krispenhartung.com=20 / 1.208.724.5603
Discography=20 -=20 http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm
CD=20 Baby Discography (CDs for only $5):=20 http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung =

------=_NextPart_000_0E29_01C6C2A9.99961810-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 16:16:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7137D3BEC1; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <06E08E95-C5A0-4E4F-A6AC-7B1D84EE48DA@gmail.com> References: <3456552A-8A9F-4673-91AA-F4BB90F947C0@gmail.com> <06E08E95-C5A0-4E4F-A6AC-7B1D84EE48DA@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:16:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1056204699==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120f0f8f8961b6a8a735964eadbed8dd827ffd1cb3e6336278d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.215.166.178 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:16:39 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1056204699==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The m3u "streaming file" on this page: http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm opens in iTudes, only plays Per Boysen's track then moves to the next item in my music library.... is this just me on my app-hole OSuX system or not? -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-1056204699==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems?

The m3u "streaming file" on this page: http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm

opens in iTudes, only plays Per Boysen's track then moves to the next item in my music library.... is this just me on my app-hole OSuX system or not?

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--============_-1056204699==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 16:21:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F1823BF06; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=aoVe6u2ldDjhoiTJigquAtun35d247SKsdF7Uw2H5lw+QYFjbgx4bwu7fZRyxss/; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:27:43 -0700 Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--629878976 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Sheila Olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <79B377AC-2ED6-11DB-AB64-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd489ca7eb26be621165af48e297baf92be83d22eb99cf5c6dcb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.128.69 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:21:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--629878976 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Same thing happens with me also.. Mac running OS X joe On Friday, August 18, 2006, at 09:16 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > The=A0 m3u "streaming file" on this page:=20 > http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm > =A0opens in iTudes, only plays Per Boysen's track then moves to the = next=20 > item in my music library.... is this just me on my app-hole OSuX=20 > system or not? > > --=20 > > ... > http://www.zmix.net --Apple-Mail-2--629878976 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Same thing happens with me also.. =20 Mac running OS X joe On Friday, August 18, 2006, at 09:16 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: The=A0 m3u "streaming file" on this page:Lucida = Grande0000,0000,0000 = http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm =A0opens in iTudes, only plays Per Boysen's track then moves to the next item in my music library.... is this just me on my app-hole OSuX system or not? --=20 ... http://www.zmix.net = --Apple-Mail-2--629878976-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 16:33:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5C613BF01; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0ee401c6c2e4$11565380$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <79B377AC-2ED6-11DB-AB64-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:33:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0EDE_01C6C2B1.C5D3A660" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:33:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0EDE_01C6C2B1.C5D3A660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are any PC users experiencing this? I am not seeing the problem, but of = course I'm using Windows Media Player. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sheila Olson=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:27 AM Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Same thing happens with me also..=20 Mac running OS X joe On Friday, August 18, 2006, at 09:16 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: The m3u "streaming file" on this page: = http://www.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm opens in iTudes, only plays Per Boysen's track then moves to the = next item in my music library.... is this just me on my app-hole OSuX = system or not? --=20 ... http://www.zmix.net ------=_NextPart_000_0EDE_01C6C2B1.C5D3A660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Are any PC users experiencing this? I = am not seeing=20 the problem, but of course I'm using Windows Media Player.

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sheila Olson

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 = 10:27=20 AM

Subject: Re: Loopers delight = 10th=20 streaming m3u problems?

Same thing happens with me also..

Mac running = OS=20 X

joe
On Friday, August 18, 2006, at 09:16 AM, Charles = Zwicky=20 wrote:

The m3u "streaming file" on this = page:=20 http://ww= w.krispenhartung.com/LoopersDelight10Year.htm
opens=20 in iTudes, only plays Per Boysen's track then moves to the next item = in my=20 music library.... is this just me on my app-hole OSuX system or=20 not?

--=20 =
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------=_NextPart_000_0EDE_01C6C2B1.C5D3A660-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 16:35:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C86E83BF04; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <79B377AC-2ED6-11DB-AB64-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> References: <79B377AC-2ED6-11DB-AB64-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5254E34C-80EB-45BB-BD10-8E849273A383@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ed Drake Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:35:44 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:35:49 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 18, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Sheila Olson wrote: > Same thing happens with me also.. > > Mac running OS X If you download the m3u file and import it into itunes it becomes a playlist which has all of the tracks. All of the tracks may be in your library but they need to be in a playlist to see them all together. One thing I've noticed is some of the track names are listed properly and some are goobletygook such as mxyzptlk or whatever. The track plays but the info about the track doesn't tell me anything about who or what the track is. Ed From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 16:50:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D9593BF01; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "dm" To: Subject: RE: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:51:18 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C6C2C4.FFA6FC30" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: <0ee401c6c2e4$11565380$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <-1Bbs.A.bjC.M_e5EB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:50:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C6C2C4.FFA6FC30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's working fine for me. Using XP and WMP10. dm www.music.download.com/danmontgomery www.myspace.com/precentor ============ -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 12:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Are any PC users experiencing this? I am not seeing the problem, but of course I'm using Windows Media Player. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 8/14/2006 ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C6C2C4.FFA6FC30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's working fine for me. Using XP and = WMP10.

dm
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-----Original Message-----
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= ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C6C2C4.FFA6FC30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 18:11:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 385AB3BEF9; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mpQLxXaX+V5AHWXNiP1UPPjdz5jOAdZXqAvRlRlcsapeo2F3mHYrbLjj+UcPP0mo/dGHivXc6rC8u3dzKRwolyCHAu9TT8XITjtOrFuUpdUO+ZTPnlV0poLbCz4dy3APdCA15zhFOVlY40xhySPxJC5C5N2DlQZWemTctqYpUGA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:11:02 -0700 From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Steve Reich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Just listening for first time to Stever Reich's "Its Gonna Rain Pt 1 & 2" after this getting chosen as 100 something in the pitchforkmedia.com 'greatest songs of the 60's! Sounds like the Loop Windowing techniques on the EDP, but using tape in 1965.... I think Dr Z mentioned this years ago. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 18:18:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5F873BEFE; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,146,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="596879747:sNHT184162068" Message-ID: <636713521.1155925134215.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:18:54 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Cc: Ed Drake MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:18:55 +0000 (UTC) I've had the same trouble. -- tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Ed Drake wrote:=20 >=20 > On Aug 18, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Sheila Olson wrote: >=20 > > Same thing happens with me also.. > > > > Mac running OS X >=20 >=20 > If you download the m3u file and import it into itunes it becomes a =20 > playlist which has all of the tracks. All of the tracks may be in =20 > your library but they need to be in a playlist to see them all together. >=20 > One thing I've noticed is some of the track names are listed properly =20 > and some are goobletygook such as mxyzptlk or whatever. The track =20 > plays but the info about the track doesn't tell me anything about who =20 > or what the track is. >=20 >=20 > Ed From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 18:24:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E520A3BEFE; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44E605C3.2050903@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:24:03 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Steve Reich References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_1z9QC.A.8sF.KXg5EB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Great stuff...I've actually been meaning to write a review of sorts about his "Music for 18 Musicians" and see if it should be included on the LD site. I heard it for the first time just a few months ago, and it just blew me away. If there were a required listening list for loopers, I'd vote for this to be on it, as a wonderful illustration of how to develop repetitive material over time. I love it SO much. To my mind, it's what "live looping" could be alternatively defined as - musicians looping a phrase. still...one does wonder if one person could perform it, with the proper looping equipment and ability to vocalize and to at least mimic the sounds of marimba, piano, sax, etc. I know a while ago some people did it with some Satie pieces... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Just listening for first time to Stever Reich's "Its Gonna Rain Pt 1 & > 2" after this getting chosen as 100 something in the > pitchforkmedia.com 'greatest songs of the 60's! > > Sounds like the Loop Windowing techniques on the EDP, but using tape > in 1965.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 18:32:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47D6A3BF0A; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=GpLkJ+YI/mzoDa7KZWEsjBH2OQGxHgEkoVUQwcxt1V2qIt5/pSOMfP6sQIOZ22BM2CBSyfZhW8mBWZuX2/uiVCxDwBu+DwdUGPuZHMHauMAi3z8bq2m+fn/IjE1vUvsx7ct5T6/Z5/jxNC7RVkwJv0vvcDY6RqI7wAIX2RLFlU0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Steve Reich Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:32:49 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:32:54 +0000 (UTC) On 18 aug 2006, at 20.11, Neil Goldstein wrote: > Just listening for first time to Stever Reich's "Its Gonna Rain Pt 1 & > 2" after this getting chosen as 100 something in the > pitchforkmedia.com 'greatest songs of the 60's! > > Sounds like the Loop Windowing techniques on the EDP, but using > tape in 1965.... I agree. I directly fell in love with Reich's music first time I heard it. It's an instant blessing being able to create similar sounding parts by real-time performed live looping. One difference though is that if you use EDP loop windowing or play Mobius scripts you may not always be able to tell exactly what is going on in detail, only that you like what you are hearing and thus keep composing with it. Some three days ago I was thinking about this when playing around with Mobius in 5/4, 6/8 and 7/8 timing measures. Then I checked out Reich's Music For Large Ensemble and some other recordings I keep with me on my iPod and I realized that he changes the the time measure quite a lot in his pieces. That's still rather difficult to do in real-time live looping when you are both the composer, the director and the instrumentalist in the same (poor) person ;-) Maybe it's technically possible - at least with Mobius - but musically, I mean how the hell to you reconfigure your brain to suddenly change between two odd timings? The fact that Reich's music does that is making it great IMHO, it makes you loose the orientation for a while before those seemingly fragmented sounds do fall into a new rhythmic order, as your listening does adapt to the new landscape. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 19:04:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 940CA3BEF1; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0f8b01c6c2f9$2a80fee0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <636713521.1155925134215.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:04:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Are all you Mac users having this problem? I just opened the m3u file from the website using iTunes, and I don't have the problem. But I did notice that iTunes is not playing the songs in the order of the m3u file. So I am guessing that there is a setting in iTunes doing this. When I first opened the m3u file with iTunes, I heard Per's song, but then nothing happened after that (just like what others reported)...but when I cleared my iTunes library and tried again, it played all the songs, just not in sequence. It's iTunes....Windows Media Player has no problem....I just tried MusicMatch too...no problem there, and both program play the songs in sequence. Regarding the nonesensical words in the titles...I am not sure why this is happening, but I think something has changed in the way box.net serves the mp3 files. When I first published, for instance, the Y2K5 recordings, using the same m3u file format, I was able to see the titles that I put in the m3u text file. Now, even those are missing in the Y2K5 files. I think the only work-around now is to tag your MP3 with title, artist, etc...then you can see them in the player. You can see in your player who has tagged their MP3 files: Per, Rainer, Doug Wyatt, Joshua Carroll, Ted Killian, Michael Peters, Dan Montgomery, Ingo A., Neil Goldstein, Charlie Milkey, RP Collier, Wernicke & Tiedje, Claude Voit, Krispen Hartung, Brian Good, Chuck Zwicky. Is anyone an expert in m3u files? This is the format I use: #EXTINF: Info on the song http://mp3file For some reason, this EXTINF info is not making it into my players, only the info encoded in the actual mp3 file tag. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® kiLLiAn" To: Cc: "Ed Drake" Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? I've had the same trouble. -- tEd ® kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Ed Drake wrote: > > On Aug 18, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Sheila Olson wrote: > > > Same thing happens with me also.. > > > > Mac running OS X > > > If you download the m3u file and import it into itunes it becomes a > playlist which has all of the tracks. All of the tracks may be in > your library but they need to be in a playlist to see them all together. > > One thing I've noticed is some of the track names are listed properly > and some are goobletygook such as mxyzptlk or whatever. The track > plays but the info about the track doesn't tell me anything about who > or what the track is. > > > Ed From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 19:08:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DDC63BF10; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tdhBX1Gt6rYKCD4s4M97bzbHUc72kBTc/LqfrM3y3QhefZ2E/iLxUgCNMyUNN3AZ3yT5vEzLn5k/9iAbApy0syByjiQPOPIAWqT3pg0FBjm/8gsZHM2AYpOdy/cZ/H7ZcUecAUV5/e1mAi8Rk5HWXOcRwAHGzpNhRoJJ/XgIeoI= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:08:44 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? In-Reply-To: <0f8b01c6c2f9$2a80fee0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <636713521.1155925134215.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> <0f8b01c6c2f9$2a80fee0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Yep. On 8/18/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Are all you Mac users having this problem? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 19:15:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F9FD3BF13; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0fcc01c6c2fa$98e031c0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <636713521.1155925134215.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> <0f8b01c6c2f9$2a80fee0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:14:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Travis! Where have you been? So, is it a problem with m3u files? To do some troubleshooting, how about this one? http://www.boisemusicians.com/Y2K5.m3u Last year, no one had a problem with this above file. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? > Yep. > > On 8/18/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> Are all you Mac users having this problem? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 19:46:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEDE43BF04; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <0fcc01c6c2fa$98e031c0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <636713521.1155925134215.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> <0f8b01c6c2f9$2a80fee0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <0fcc01c6c2fa$98e031c0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--617947401 Message-Id: <07073210cfa33a21e74026609878fc60@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:46:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:46:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--617947401 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Not sure what the problem is... but I'm using a Mac and it's playing a lullabye like song called "Separation" by Adrian West. Is that what you want playing? When it's done, as with all music downloads I get, it will most likely continue playing my iTunes list I believe. Hope this is relevant! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 18-Aug-06, at 12:14 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Travis! Where have you been? > So, is it a problem with m3u files? > To do some troubleshooting, how about this one? > http://www.boisemusicians.com/Y2K5.m3u > > Last year, no one had a problem with this above file. > > Kris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Hartnett" > > To: > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? > > >> Yep. >> On 8/18/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: >>> Are all you Mac users having this problem? >> > --Apple-Mail-4--617947401 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Not sure what the problem is... but I'm using a Mac and it's playing a lullabye like song called "Separation" by Adrian West. Is that what you want playing? When it's done, as with all music downloads I get, it will most likely continue playing my iTunes list I believe. Hope this is relevant! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 18-Aug-06, at 12:14 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: Travis! Where have you been? So, is it a problem with m3u files? To do some troubleshooting, how about this one? http://www.boisemusicians.com/Y2K5.m3u Last year, no one had a problem with this above file. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Hartnett" < To: < Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Yep. On 8/18/06, Krispen Hartung < wrote: Are all you Mac users having this problem? --Apple-Mail-4--617947401-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 18 19:51:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53C0B3BEF1; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0ff201c6c2ff$bd4c2190$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <636713521.1155925134215.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> <0f8b01c6c2f9$2a80fee0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <0fcc01c6c2fa$98e031c0$6fb2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <07073210cfa33a21e74026609878fc60@glasswing.com> Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:51:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0FEF_01C6C2CD.71D8B6B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/64288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:51:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0FEF_01C6C2CD.71D8B6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That seems to be the common thread here, that iTunes plays the first = song in the m3u file and then quits. I still think it has to do with = iTunes settings. I can't reproduce the problem with Windows Media Player = or Music Match, but was able to semi-produce the problem with iTunes on = my PC....it has to do with how the program is setup to play songs in the = library, or in a m3u file, etc...not sure. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sales=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:46 PM Subject: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Not sure what the problem is... but I'm using a Mac and it's playing a = lullabye like song called "Separation" by Adrian West. Is that what you = want playing? When it's done, as with all music downloads I get, it will most likely = continue playing my iTunes list I believe. Hope this is relevant! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 18-Aug-06, at 12:14 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: Travis! Where have you been?=20 So, is it a problem with m3u files?=20 To do some troubleshooting, how about this one?=20 http://www.boisemusicians.com/Y2K5.m3u Last year, no one had a problem with this above file. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Hartnett" = To: Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Re: Loopers delight 10th streaming m3u problems? Yep. On 8/18/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: Are all you Mac users having this problem? ------=_NextPart_000_0FEF_01C6C2CD.71D8B6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That seems to be the common thread = here, that=20 iTunes plays the first song in the m3u file and then quits. I still = think it has=20 to do with iTunes settings. I can't reproduce the problem with Windows = Media=20 Player or Music Match, but was able to semi-produce the problem with = iTunes on=20 my PC....it has to do with how the program is setup to play songs in the = library, or in a m3u file, etc...not sure.

Kris

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>The thing about your first looper is that it will be like your first girlfriend/boyfriend. You shan't forget them, but they will often tell you many things about what you don't want as well as a few that you can't get enough of. Wow...

One thing I've found over the years is that you'll learn more about people when you read non professional reviews than you learn about the gear... in many cases. Don't worry, someone somewhere will hate everything and they tend to be vocal. >From what I can hear about the RC-50 is that if you're not syncing it to a drum machine it seems like a pretty good box. Not my bag, but I bet good music can be made with it. Am I wrong on this one? I've kind of stopped following the threads after "it doesn't sync well." The talk about the JamMan faded so fast I have no idea what it does... nor do I care. The Lexicon JamMan is still THE JamMan for me. Get one, they're great.... unless you're one of the people who hate it. Bad reviews on the EDP? Again, not my bag but it executes what it does really well. Maybe it is my bag, as I now seem to be very happy with a software emulation of it running from a laptop. I'm sure it's not the same but it does what I ask it to do. I love the Repeater... but it honestly hasn't seen a signal for a month... will it hit my closet? (ebay) Perhaps... My heros seem to have foresaken their hardware gear for laptop versions. Still nothing touches what this sucker does in software or other hardware. Does it have warts? Sure, but show me some gear that doesn't. Looperlative? For sure get a laptop. It's cool, but for the cash you'll be better off with a decent laptop and Mobius. If you're totally anti laptop then this is as good a choice as any. 2880? Haven't hear anything bad about that... except you only get a loop at a time but surely with all those tracks... The thing about your first looper is that it will be like your first girlfriend/boyfriend. You shan't forget them, but they will often tell you many things about what you don't want as well as a few that you can't get enough of. Mark --- "tunga.muzik" <tunga.muzik@terra.com.br> wrote:

Hi there, I´m also new to this community, been playing guitar for 15 years now and have been invited by some DJs to perform live with them. Obviously I need a looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 , but that was before I read reviews on harmony-central, musiciansfriend.com, loopers delight, etc.....I was excited about going stereo, having 3 phrase tracks, such long recording time......bla, bla, bla...........but as I would have it mainly for live performances, just put it aside for this moment. RC-20XL is mono, seems to degrade sound quality as more phrases are added onto previous recorded ones, has the 2 seconds pressed pedal waiting time to change recording/dubbing functions......sounds not pro enough. Also read a lot about some little issues on Digitech JamMan, Boomerang, Electro Harmonix 2880, etc.......even the Gibson Echoplex Digital ProPlus got bad reviews. Sincerely....I got lost in the middle of everything, so it got cloudy for me to define what should I buy at this moment, what will give me condition for a reliable and creative live performance, and also be a smart option regarding the cost X benefit X technology X quality issue. Counting on your expertise people....thanks a lot. Peace. TUNGA

myself? Well, the answer is that if that were the case, then you are not the target market for the package. This is for folks who want to buy a system and have it work right out of the box. And of course, the system would come completely setup, configured, and ready to loop. Isn't this the main inherent advantage of a hardware looper? All the advantages of this system are just really duplicating what you get when you buy a new (to you) Repeater of an EDP. The advantages of being able to tweak that system specifically for your needs would probably require that you learn everything about all of the components of the system, sort of negating the 'advantage' of having someone else initially set it up for you, since you're gonna have to learn how it works anyway. Oh, I'd say the best line of attack from a business proposition POV would be to find the cheapest laptop that you can get with the necessary specs, configure it specifically for looping/audio editing, and sell those by themselves. Pick one software looper (people seem to like Mobius), throw it on there, and from there maybe reccomend an interface, you could probably make some money in offering some additional set up based on the interface they choose- or they could do it themselves. I think most loopers wouldn't mind learning the 'music' systems on their own machines (the looping & any effects/plug ins etc), it's making the OS run most efficiently (the 'computer' part, if you will) that I don't think they have the time/patience for. Just a thought....... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

I agree... with the I/O latency issues that plague current computer audio setups, I can't see going out of my way to buy a laptop for use as a looper. Since I already own one, though, I use Live and Mobius occasionally at home. However, the latency issue keeps me from incorporating it into my live rig. This is, in my opinion, the primary advantage hardware units have over software setups right now (aside from perhaps durability/stability issues to some extent). Personally I have never quite grasped why cheaper, slower hardware units measure their I/O latency in picoseconds, while our much more powerful computer systems have noticeable delays. That's a bit OT, though. Krispen - are you running some type of parallel setup with delay compensation to combat the monitoring latency? Jesse -----Original Message----- From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:42 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Products, Services, and Looping Gear "Packages" Krispen, I think that the rationalization behind software looping is that you already own a computer, and that the interfaces which you need to get it all working can be used for some other purpose down the line. Is it possible to interest someone in an entry level laptop for a specific application? Why not run some numbers by us so we can see if it is even feasible to offer such a package?

I got to thinking wiht my day job hat on, and these days when it is becoming harder and harder to make money off of technological products, because of competition, pricing preasures, consolidation, and the overall commotization of consumer products, the long term money is in services. How do services pertain to looping gear? I may be giving away a great marketing/business opportunity here, but it seems to me if someone had the resources they could sell "laptop looping packages". Part of the problem with some folks getting into laptop looping is that it can be painful buying a laptop that will do the job, buying all the gear to connect to it and get started, upgrading, etc, etc. These things take time for the looping consumer, and time is money. And there are risks that come along with building your own laptop system, such as teh overall system not working as expected because of hardware/software compatibility, and so on. And this too equates to time or rework, which again equates to money. So basically the "laptop looping package" would be a system that someone experience and knowledgeable would construct and test, and then sell as a ready to go looping system. You could sell different types and grades of packages, For instance, a very basic setup might include an entry level laptop, inexpensive cardbus soundcard, Mobius installed, and a cheap MIDI controller like the MIDI Mouse, MIDI Moose, or some other small controller. Then your totally kick ass package might include a screaming Intel Duo machine, an external firewire audio/midi interface, and a Behringer controller. Or better yet, the deluxe pacakge would include a VST host and a ton of free VST effects, all ready to work. The Service here, which you can't bottle up or put in a box, is the expertise and knowledge of constructing a looping kit or ensemble that works right out of the box. So, if I were a new looper interested in getting a laptop looping system, I would buy one of these package, turn it on, and it would essentially work immediately, everthing down to the Behringer buttons mapped to Mobius functions, buttons labeled, etc. Then of course, I could customize it after that point. It wouldn't take much to get started on this idea. I don't have the time to do it, but if I did I would assemble just 2-3 looping packages and sell them...and then use the profit to buy more packages, etc. Incidentally, there are a lot of smart cookies making money hand over fist using this re-packaging concept on eBay. Folk are actually buying products on eBay, packaging them up based on a theme of some sort, and selling them for a profit. Why would people buy something like this when they could buy the individual items themselves? Well, this sort of answers the question...the value is in the service or the convienence of not having to do the research or spend the time to do this. ************************************************************************** Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung My Tribe: http://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography (CDs for only $5): http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung

If you'd be more specific regarding your requirements, we could be more specific naming a price. The cheapest looping devices I'm aware of are the Akai E2 Headrush (for €119) and the Boss RC2 (for €145).

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Chaz Worm [mailto:chaz@earthwormandfire.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2006 19:06 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Cheapest Looping Gear I would like to get started using some looping gear with my performances. What do the cheapest looping gear usually start at? chaz