From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 01:15:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC0663C0B2; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 01:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003201c65529$bd083690$68a6eb44@BlackDell> From: "Paul" To: References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:15:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 01:15:27 +0000 (UTC) I wonder if an ignorant aspect is heard in your music as in your e-mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" To: Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > I'd pretty much say that non lyrical music has no > intrinsic political qualities. I dare you to gleen a > message from any of my music. Don't bother, there > isn't one. > > I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I am sure > that this list is not the place for it. There are > plenty of places on the net for it. Go there and > type. > > Mark > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 03:06:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FFA53C0B8; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 03:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4553.128.193.138.241.1143860800.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <2833.128.193.37.212.1143840918.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <7A2F7301-BBED-417F-BC3F-5E64BE42F955@modaldub.net> <2833.128.193.37.212.1143840918.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:06:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 03:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, I just got an Electrix Filter Queen in mint condition for a nice price and I stayed up much too late last night playing with it. Folks on the list who talked about filters said that in general they liked to put filters before the looper. The Filter Factory/Queen (FFQ) works best at line levels so Electrix recommends that folks put it in the effects loops of their amps. But the looper comes before the amp, natcherly. So...for folks who play guitar and put their FFQ's before their loopers, how do you boost the signal of your guitar to nominal levels for the FFQ inputs? Thanks, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 03:28:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26FB13C0BA; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 03:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CmX093nBDkCWoEA2idmmimHwMlPywWkmiHzlvc2RxKM4YbbdwTHV9CaWjQ5X8roabKepLsmtFbI5KvzOhsmM0cRDTV6M90dJswoBQHL5aJwm+82jaB0ZcapEFpMHl0dZ+8AiBFBd9/G3UNh119FS67YDH0X29rrtGTDi0nhGxxE= ; Message-ID: <20060401032814.381.qmail@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:28:14 -0800 (PST) From: robert jenkins Subject: vintage eh16 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 03:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm new here, and the proud, new owner of the mythical delay. I'd be so appreciative if anyone who knows this unit well could offer suggestions, as I'm just learning it. I don't want to miss anything obvious. Thanks, Robert __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 03:43:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D9383C0B8; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 03:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=nK1+C7pu40MPxdq9uhe6LAezdK/HnPAHG7kwaUh3dCkX4FHKiZNGX9KcK8dwrAbZ; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:43:01 -0800 Subject: Re: vintage eh16 From: stanitarium To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20060401032814.381.qmail@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd482bc7f2e72dac68363a8f835eb6ca8e222601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 165.247.214.224 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 03:43:30 +0000 (UTC) HOORAY FER YOU!!! i got one and if yers is in good workin order-you are a lucky man! Nels Cline in the Apr issue of Guitar Player uses one and he offers up some good stuff. he does what i do-(surprise!) : run yer signal thru it at all times and when you find something loop worthy-bring up the mix and the feedback and then...strangulate!-freeze it in there or let it drift off and w/ liberal use of the delay/sweep faders-still the most fun looper i ever had...ymwv s on 3/31/06 7:28 PM, robert jenkins at r_h_jenkins@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi, > I'm new here, and the proud, new owner of the mythical > delay. I'd be so appreciative if anyone who knows > this unit well could offer suggestions, as I'm just > learning it. I don't want to miss anything obvious. > > Thanks, > Robert > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 06:12:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FAB23C0B7; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 06:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2j99SNYq+t3FcYap3B7gU6LibLCPISPOJZm+e4x05Lcwu8N/JjCGFRzWS5hIRrh7OfDZhY5SepgFRDTifK99eVoMselcqWAbBVSe7Tmu8dIJ7DxomLxcB2E5X4EftdYbNboNYNFTu3alXP5vdNcMhFc1SjD55ZeNjJFAcdEuAXg= ; Message-ID: <20060401061203.63410.qmail@web38508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:12:03 -0800 (PST) From: robert jenkins Subject: Re: vintage eh16 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 06:12:05 +0000 (UTC) yeah, i stumbled across that. i was also wondering about the reverse function. it seems that i've heard cline and (of course) frisell playing backwards envolopes forward, if that makes sense. what i mean is that when i switch the reverse on, the dirrection reverses, but i'm sure i've heard the attack/decay reverse w/out the sequence of notes doing the same. any ideas? --- stanitarium wrote: > HOORAY FER YOU!!! > i got one and if yers is in good workin order-you > are a lucky man! > Nels Cline in the Apr issue of Guitar Player uses > one and he offers up some > good stuff. he does what i do-(surprise!) : run yer > signal thru it at all > times and when you find something loop worthy-bring > up the mix and the > feedback and then...strangulate!-freeze it in there > or let it drift off and > w/ liberal use of the delay/sweep faders-still the > most fun looper i ever > had...ymwv > s > > > > > > on 3/31/06 7:28 PM, robert jenkins at > r_h_jenkins@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm new here, and the proud, new owner of the > mythical > > delay. I'd be so appreciative if anyone who knows > > this unit well could offer suggestions, as I'm > just > > learning it. I don't want to miss anything > obvious. > > > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 09:38:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36D1C3C0B1; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: <9D23E968-8BDC-4BF0-A2FE-FA8B2A234F2A@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <227934ec334814ac5d9790a6d0da3860@venetowest.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ronan Chris Murphy Subject: Re: tuba loopage example/samples Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 01:38:09 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:38:36 +0000 (UTC) For amazing Tuba looping you should check out Tom Heasley's work. http://www.tomheasley.com/ Ronan Chris Murphy www.venetowest.com (Production & mixing: King Crimson, Chucho Valdes, Steve Morse, Terry Bozzio, CGT...) www.homerecordingbootcamp.com (Workshops around the world teaching the art and craft of recording ) www.livesofthesaints.net (The hottest ambient noise duo since Sonny & Cher) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 11:03:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17E5A3C0A9; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAALLsLUSIGg Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060401111047.02850170@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:00:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: music is political In-Reply-To: <20060331211451.1A1033C0BA@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060331211451.1A1033C0BA@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:03:03 +0000 (UTC) >having the view that looping is politically subversive as it is non- >mainstream music, and at least for me associated with ideas such as >improvisation, subversion, personal freedom and individual >expression, i thought this series of articles might be of interest to >some on the list. > >i understand that some people are put off by political and/or >theoretical topics. would they limit this list to discussing multi- >thousand dollar commercial products and their merits? to me music is >political, so to be concerned with music is to be concerned with >politics. besides, it's interesting ;) so, why not have a discussion >with like-minded "musical subversives"? or just read the article. >this list is for sharing things of "value" with others, and i found >this series of articles quite valuable. ok, I'll join in :-) Musicians have a very fine tradition of completely ignoring political boundaries. Check out a map of the world, lot's of sharply defined political lines. Then listen to music from all around the world, and note how it changes with the geography, you'll find you can have a pretty good guess at where music comes from by just listening to sound. For instance you can neatly plot music from Afganistan being between middle eastern and indian. Politicians can take an interest in music though. Music of a certain type is banned fairly regularly. While the music of "free expression" is anathema to some regimes, it's just as likely that the genres that are prohibited promote a fixed cultural identity. When Attaturk came to power in Turkey (around the end of WW1) he tried to ban quite a lot of the indigenous music because he wanted to promote a forward looking secular state. Politically motivated music is somehow deeply bland, whether it's government sponsored cleaned up versions of traditional musics, or pointy finger agit punk. Isn't it true that the best musicians simply have to create without needing some intellectual reason? Well, anyway, the article's an interesting read, but I have to say I despair at such attempts to re-write musical history just using the critics' favourite artists. The author puts a load of quotes at the end to make it all seem "academic and proper" , but somehow manages to miss out Edgard Varese (" The International Composers Guild disapproves of all 'isms'; denies the existence of schools; recognizes only the individual.") . Likewise, the cool and trendy Velvet Underground are mentioned, while previous experimenters with noise the Mothers of Invention are shunned. oh well...that's enough andy butler ps here's stuff about Varese, claims he's the father of electronic music ;-) http://personal-pages.lvc.edu/~snyder/em/varese.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 12:20:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6313A3C034; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1662035078.20060331234735@spacenet.ru> References: <1552570968.20060331023900@spacenet.ru> <1662035078.20060331234735@spacenet.ru> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 06:19:53 -0600 To: From: mech Subject: Re[2]: stutter in a pedal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:20:00 +0000 (UTC) At 11:47 PM +0300 3/31/06, Denis 'Diz' Loskutnikov wrote: >Friday, March 31, 2006, 3:40:11 PM, you wrote: > >m> Excellent first post! > >Thank you! I worried if my English is understandable :-) Perfectly understandable. Don't worry about a thing! >m> The only other tweek I'd been seeking in this kind of pedal was possibly a >m> "polarity" for the momentary switch -- one setting passes signal >normally and >m> mutes when pressed, while the other mutes the output constantly and >m> only passes the signal when pressed. > >There is this tweak, off the shelf and in much elegant way.... [*snip*] > >To put it simple, each successive press on Toggle will change state of pedal, >and each press on Hold will change it to inverse state - until >release. Ah, subtle and elegant -- accomplishing two tasks with one function. Very nice! And, to echo Simeon's question, are you going to be producing these for the general market? If so, how much would you like to charge? Thanks!!! --m. -- _______ "Wind in my heart. Dust in my head..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 12:42:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 457AD3C099; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YIbR7Iv9zXY8GB/byyQxYrsILiMROp9Gys3wl9KAp/717t/6u7/2FvSel4Xcbun8DDYxjodMqDJtqGmk8mW2hVl1B7RXhgy2Fdi5dt+MxRO5BBbBrQBAWW+LgmgNOWuGc/2wVEJZtnwEdQ3Yx+VjQqytRiED/JmQo7Qm7P9cHpY= ; Message-ID: <20060401124252.11701.qmail@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 04:42:52 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Zoe Keating with Imogen Heap - don't miss it! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:42:55 +0000 (UTC) I'd been hearing good things about Imogen Heap beginning with Zoe's Letterman thread several weeks back, and finally picked up her album 'Speak For Yourself' earlier this week. When the second track, 'Goodnight and Go' came around and I heard that utterly brilliant three-second-short Jeff Beck solo, it flashed on me that Imogen had been the vocalist on Beck's 'You Had It Coming' album, so I HAD been listening to her all along. Imogen's CD and Zoe's 'one cello x 16: natoma' have been in heavy rotation in my player this week, and I highly recommend both of them. -t- --- Steve Lawson wrote: > I finally got to see Zoe play last night, first > opening for, and then > in the band with Imogen Heap. It was a real treat (etc) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 16:11:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D59013C092; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.03,154,1141621200"; d="scan'208"; a="6143927:sNHT27273932" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <20060401032814.381.qmail@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060401032814.381.qmail@web38504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-244531156 Message-Id: <58ebbead53b0b6c613a2612f39239c43@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: vintage eh16 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:12:51 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: <6Jn2g.A.Q7F.PZqLEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:11:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-244531156 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi there, It's been a while. =46rom the mid '80s to the mid '90s I owned a pair of = =20 them. AND . . . most important of all . . . is that I owned one of the =20 original 6-button, rare as hen's teeth, remote foot-switches for one of them -- and had a =20= second one custom made to match it. Then I had the guts of BOTH foot-switches =20= out and housed together in one big sturdy, metal, custom stompbox. The reason why I feel this is so important is that it kept my EH16s off =20= the floor and away from as much damage as my big, heavy-footed self could be counted on to inflict with my feet, spilled beer, etc., to such =20 expensive but still predictably EH flimsy pieces of kit. Also, not only did each set of 6 switches replicate the 3 =20 stomp-switches on the EH16 unit itself -- but it also brought the 3 little finger toggle =20= switches along the top of the units under foot control. That meant I didn't have =20= to bend over if I wanted to go half- or 2x-speed, switch into reverse or turn on the "clix" output. I had stomp switches for everything that I =20= needed except the slider functions. I do believe that was why I was able to own and use continuously for 10+ years those two devices without having any particular problems with them -- losing any of the little plastic handles on the sliders or =20= having the sliders get all "scratchy" sounding when I slid them during =20 performance, or any other major problem. They remained in practically pristine mint condition and I sold them separately in '96 for enough to buy 2 =20 spankin' new Oberheim EDPs (and an EFC-7 foot-switch) with enough memory to max both out to 180 seconds of delay. The EH foot-switch worked along the same lines as the EDP remote switch. It brought 6 different resistors (each with an order of magnitude =20 higher value of resistance than the next) in or out of a circuit that sensed =20 resistance values and changed functions on the main unit accordingly. It was bone-head =20 simple. I wish I had the resistor values and the pencil-drawn schematic for the =20= dumb thing still. Anywho, those switches lengthened the life of the main devices and made using them a whole lot more convenient and pleasant. If you can find or make one, you will be doing yerself a big favor and will have a lot =20 more fun with your looping. You only own 1 unit, so you won't have to worry about having to sync 2 =20= of them up as a stereo pair. I have a trick for that that involved using the =20 "clix" feature and was fairly accurate. I doubt if anybody on the list owns 2 of them so =20= there's no point in going into that. Other advice? Well, the clix track can be more handy that one might =20 think. You can use it for a lot more than just an audio click track. For example, =20= in the early days of drum machines, Boss made a little drum machine thingy that was =20= silver gray and hardly bigger than one of their tuners are now. Well, those had an =20= "input" jack 'em that enabled their tempo to be driven by an audio pulse =20 (either a click track or a signal from a microphone in a bass drum). I used the EH16's =20= "clix" output to drive it with amazing success. It sure made playing to a =20 canned beat a lot more interesting than just playing to the sound of the "Clix." =20 The drum machine turned on and off . . . speed up or slowed down . . . always in sync =20 with the loops. Cool huh? Plus the Clix slider could be positioned continuously, right? So you =20 could find spots that were between 4, 8 and 16 beats (etc.) where the Clix would =20= stutter and drop beats. Using this with the above mentioned drum machine was REALLY interesting. It introduced a bit of odd metered semi-randomness to what was originally pretty standard canned (rock, shuffle, waltz, =20 etc.) beats. I also had an early Roland sampler (an S-10, I believe) whose =20 arpeggiator could could similarly be audio clock pulse tempo driven. I made some of the =20= most creative music I EVER made with that setup. I still wish I had it as a =20= matter of fact. That stuttering Clix track can be used for all sorts of madness =20= if you put you mind to it and use a little imagination. You could filter and process =20= the bejeezus out of it for one thing. Anywho, that's about enough. It brought back memories just thinking =20 about those days. I can no longer give you current advice on the things. Like =20= where is a decent repair shop or what have you. But that's what Stan Card =20 (Stan-o-saur) and some of these other cats on the list can help you with. Stan is an =20= amazing surf guitar player who uses EH16 loops and is simply amazing to watch. =20= I bet he'll have bunches o' advice for you. If you get a chance to hear him =20= perform sometime, he'll pin yer ears back too. Have fun! tEd =AE kiLLiAn On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:28 PM, robert jenkins wrote: > Hi, > I'm new here, and the proud, new owner of the mythical > delay. I'd be so appreciative if anyone who knows > this unit well could offer suggestions, as I'm just > learning it. I don't want to miss anything obvious. "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? --Apple-Mail-1-244531156 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi there, It's been a while. =46rom the mid '80s to the mid '90s I owned a pair of them. AND . . . most important of all . . . is that I owned one of the original 6-button,=20 rare as hen's teeth, remote foot-switches for one of them -- and had a second=20 one custom made to match it. Then I had the guts of BOTH foot-switches out and housed together in one big sturdy, metal, custom stompbox. The reason why I feel this is so important is that it kept my EH16s off the=20 floor and away from as much damage as my big, heavy-footed self could be counted on to inflict with my feet, spilled beer, etc., to such expensive=20 but still predictably EH flimsy pieces of kit.=20 Also, not only did each set of 6 switches replicate the 3 stomp-switches on the EH16 unit itself -- but it also brought the 3 little finger toggle switches=20 along the top of the units under foot control. That meant I didn't have to=20 bend over if I wanted to go half- or 2x-speed, switch into reverse or turn on the "clix" output. I had stomp switches for everything that I needed except the slider functions.=20 I do believe that was why I was able to own and use continuously for 10+ years those two devices without having any particular problems with them -- losing any of the little plastic handles on the sliders or having the sliders get all "scratchy" sounding when I slid them during performance, or any other major problem. They remained in practically pristine mint=20= condition and I sold them separately in '96 for enough to buy 2 spankin' new Oberheim EDPs (and an EFC-7 foot-switch) with enough memory to max both out to 180 seconds of delay. The EH foot-switch worked along the same lines as the EDP remote switch. It brought 6 different resistors (each with an order of magnitude higher value of resistance than the next) in or out of a circuit that sensed resistance values=20 and changed functions on the main unit accordingly. It was bone-head simple. I wish I had the resistor values and the pencil-drawn schematic for the dumb=20 thing still.=20 Anywho, those switches lengthened the life of the main devices and made using them a whole lot more convenient and pleasant. If you can find or make one, you will be doing yerself a big favor and will have a lot more fun with your looping. You only own 1 unit, so you won't have to worry about having to sync 2 of them up as a stereo pair. I have a trick for that that involved using the "clix" feature and was fairly accurate. I doubt if anybody on the list owns 2 of them so there's no point in going into that. Other advice? Well, the clix track can be more handy that one might think. You can use it for a lot more than just an audio click track. For example, in the early days of drum machines, Boss made a little drum machine thingy that was silver gray and hardly bigger than one of their tuners are now. Well, those had an "input" jack 'em that enabled their tempo to be driven by an audio pulse (either a click track or a signal from a microphone in a bass drum). I used the EH16's "clix" output to drive it with amazing success. It sure made playing to a canned beat a lot more interesting than just playing to the sound of the "Clix." The drum machine turned on and off . . . speed up or slowed down . . . always in sync with the loops. Cool huh? Plus the Clix slider could be positioned continuously, right? So you could find spots that were between 4, 8 and 16 beats (etc.) where the Clix would stutter and drop beats. Using this with the above mentioned drum machine was=20 REALLY interesting. It introduced a bit of odd metered semi-randomness to what was originally pretty standard canned (rock, shuffle, waltz, etc.) beats. I also had an early Roland sampler (an S-10, I believe) whose arpeggiator could could similarly be audio clock pulse tempo driven. I made some of the most creative music I EVER made with that setup. I still wish I had it as a matter of fact. That stuttering Clix track can be used for all sorts of madness if you put you mind to it and use a little imagination. You could filter and process the bejeezus=20 out of it for one thing. Anywho, that's about enough. It brought back memories just thinking about=20 those days. I can no longer give you current advice on the things. Like where is a decent repair shop or what have you. But that's what Stan Card (Stan-o-saur) and some of these other cats on the list can help you with. Stan is an amazing surf guitar player who uses EH16 loops and is simply amazing to watch. I bet=20 he'll have bunches o' advice for you. If you get a chance to hear him perform=20 sometime, he'll pin yer ears back too. Have fun! tEd =AE kiLLiAn On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:28 PM, robert jenkins wrote: Hi, I'm new here, and the proud, new owner of the mythical delay. I'd be so appreciative if anyone who knows this unit well could offer suggestions, as I'm just learning it. I don't want to miss anything obvious. =20 8080,8080,8080"Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? --Apple-Mail-1-244531156-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 18:31:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7B9C3C07B; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 18:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [85.210.43.126] X-Originating-Email: [gardunne@hotmail.com] X-Sender: gardunne@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20060401124252.11701.qmail@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "gary dunne" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Zoe Keating with Imogen Heap - don't miss it! Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:31:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2006 18:31:22.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[79B85780:01C655BA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 18:31:25 +0000 (UTC) yeah, i saw zoe and imogen's show in the scala in london a few months back (where coincidentally i met zoe and got turned on to loopers-delight). their sets work really well together. gary garydunne.com >From: Tim Nelson >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Zoe Keating with Imogen Heap - don't miss it! Date: Sat, 1 Apr >2006 04:42:52 -0800 (PST) > >I'd been hearing good things about Imogen Heap >beginning with Zoe's Letterman thread several weeks >back, and finally picked up her album 'Speak For >Yourself' earlier this week. When the second track, >'Goodnight and Go' came around and I heard that >utterly brilliant three-second-short Jeff Beck solo, >it flashed on me that Imogen had been the vocalist on >Beck's 'You Had It Coming' album, so I HAD been >listening to her all along. > >Imogen's CD and Zoe's 'one cello x 16: natoma' have >been in heavy rotation in my player this week, and I >highly recommend both of them. > >-t- > >--- Steve Lawson wrote: > > I finally got to see Zoe play last night, first > > opening for, and then > > in the band with Imogen Heap. It was a real treat >(etc) > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 18:59:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4A523C047; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 18:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:52:49 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #470 for March 30, 2006 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <442ECC01.6090807@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: <-1XIH.A.1lH.41sLEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 18:59:04 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/060330.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, webcasting on the internet, and simulcasting on WXLV 90.3 FM in Schnecksville at Lehigh Carbon County Community College. Show #470 March 30, 2006 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on E-dition electronic music magazine. The Featured CD at Midnight was the CD that came with issue #9. The Vinyl Starter was "uido Meyer]by Klaus Schulze on IC Records and released in 1983. E-dition - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================== Klaus Schulze Spielglocken * Audentity (IC) Palancar Endless Slumber Precis (Blue Water) Brannan Lane Celestial Harmonies Pt1 Answer the Sky (Ambient Circle) Brannan Lane Celestial Harmonies Pt2 Answer the Sky (Ambient Circle) Create Solar Flare From Earth To Mars (Groove) VA [Syn] Viking Mission II Analogy Volume 1 (Groove) VA [Russell Storey] Cosmic Kiwi Analogy Volume 1 (Groove) Steve Roach and Somewhere Else * Somewhere Else (Projekt) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================== VA [Guido Meyer] Lightyears E-dition #9 (Groove) VA [Parallel Worlds] Night Wind E-dition #9 (Groove) VA [Andreas Akwara] Synthetic Horizon II E-dition #9 (Groove) VA [Rene v.d. Wouden] E-lively E-dition #9 (Groove) VA [Nattefrost] Valhal E-dition #9 (Groove) VA [Embrase] Journey Through A E-dition #9 (Groove) Soundscape VA [Wave World] Sunrise At Yacekla E-dition #9 (Groove) VA [Parallel Worlds] Summer Wonders E-dition #9 (Groove) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Sequences magazine. The Featured CD at Midnight will be the CD that came with issue #28. The Vinyl Starter will be "Audentity" by Klaus Schulze on IC Records and released in 1983. Bill =============================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5:00 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.7 in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg and 92.9 on Service Electric Cable. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/podcasts.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 20:40:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45A8E3C04D; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 20:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAA5yLkSIGg Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:36:32 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens In-Reply-To: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_fNhhB.A.2nC.qUuLEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 20:40:11 +0000 (UTC) >The Filter Factory/Queen (FFQ) works best at >line levels so Electrix recommends that folks put it in the effects loops= of >their amps. But the looper comes before the amp, natcherly. is it not possible that you put both the filter and the looper in the FX= loop? >So...for folks who play guitar and put their FFQ's before their loopers,= how >do you boost the signal of your guitar to nominal levels for the FFQ= inputs? I don't have the Filter Queen , but still need to=20 amplify the guitar to line level. I've been using an ADA MP-1 valve/transistor guitar preamp lately. Does good clean pre-amping, or interesting distortions. :-( but perhaps not as cheap as you'd like (don't know though, mine cost =A3100 in GB, so you=20 might find one v. reasonably in US). andybutler =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 21:38:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE6A53C035; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Nv34pnMztpkWpjA+6eX0bNvAVDral4tqivMR2m8UOSTAfd8liCaOtEgEiRvgfuM42aZt/X6un2tvoQqIL/jE/yUe6CEmInSgaB/c+QXngXQ2R5+dwyYNVetg/aS3Sc4jXe4VsYKleGj6TAXm+8+9AvRO1QWMMH5z2xJq8+IJt3w= ; Message-ID: <20060401213818.88137.qmail@web26212.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:38:18 +0200 (CEST) From: rune fagereng Subject: Vedr. Re: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1328896648-1143927498=:87357" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:38:19 +0000 (UTC) --0-1328896648-1143927498=:87357 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit what if the filter goes into the repeaters fx-loop,and the the repeater is in the fx-loop of the amp? Rune f a k butler skrev: >The Filter Factory/Queen (FFQ) works best at >line levels so Electrix recommends that folks put it in the effects loops of >their amps. But the looper comes before the amp, natcherly. is it not possible that you put both the filter and the looper in the FX loop? >So...for folks who play guitar and put their FFQ's before their loopers, how >do you boost the signal of your guitar to nominal levels for the FFQ inputs? I don't have the Filter Queen , but still need to amplify the guitar to line level. I've been using an ADA MP-1 valve/transistor guitar preamp lately. Does good clean pre-amping, or interesting distortions. :-( but perhaps not as cheap as you'd like (don't know though, mine cost £100 in GB, so you might find one v. reasonably in US). andybutler --0-1328896648-1143927498=:87357 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
what if the filter goes into the repeaters fx-loop,and the the repeater is in the fx-loop of the amp?
 
Rune f

a k butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> skrev:

>The Filter Factory/Queen (FFQ) works best at
>line levels so Electrix recommends that folks put it in the effects loops of
>their amps. But the looper comes before the amp, natcherly.

is it not possible that you put both the filter and the looper in the FX loop?


>So...for folks who play guitar and put their FFQ's before their loopers, how
>do you boost the signal of your guitar to nominal levels for the FFQ inputs?

I don't have the Filter Queen , but still need to
amplify the guitar to line level.
I've been using an ADA MP-1 valve/transistor guitar preamp lately.
Does good clean pre-amping, or interesting distortions.
:-( but perhaps not as cheap as you'd like
(don't know though, mine cost £100 in GB, so you
might find one v. reasonably in US).

andybutler



--0-1328896648-1143927498=:87357-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 22:03:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DB233C031; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=lRkzy8l+V6Ck1RCWnr+LTNNwkwoP2JRP8D7xutg9E1Hg37hpKQ5CYuN+a8WtIh3t; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:03:03 -0800 Subject: Re: vintage eh16 From: stanitarium To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <58ebbead53b0b6c613a2612f39239c43@charter.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48371db939758b6245890f05565a52baef7ef9f80aaf77e5a4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 165.247.222.126 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:03:32 +0000 (UTC) hey ted thanx fer the props! back@cha. yeah i got the footcontroller for the EH16DDL too-very cool idea they had for that. i never use it tho'...i see the unit as a hand held device-and as far as repair-nonexistant afaik- i have talked to NelsCline about repair and he said "its tuff, there used t= o be a guy in Texas, but..." s on 4/1/06 8:12 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn at tedkillian@charter.net wrote: >=20 > Anywho, that's about enough. It brought back memories just thinking > about > those days. I can no longer give you current advice on the things. Like > where > is a decent repair shop or what have you. But that's what Stan Card > (Stan-o-saur) > and some of these other cats on the list can help you with. Stan is an > amazing > surf guitar player who uses EH16 loops and is simply amazing to watch. > I bet > he'll have bunches o' advice for you. If you get a chance to hear him > perform > sometime, he'll pin yer ears back too. >=20 > Have fun! >=20 > tEd =AE kiLLiAn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 22:44:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C8AB3C047; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 14:44:12 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Ken.H" Subject: Looperlatives are arriving. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Provags-ID: perfora.net abuse@perfora.net login:19e398854e4e12389f1bc10699aa0b2c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Hoooh-boy... here we go! L-D'ers rejoice... the first production run Looperlative LP1s are arriving. I thought I was going to have to have a sleepless Monday night, but Santa in the big Brown truck showed up this morning. Mine arrived at it's new home on Saturday at 11:40am Pacific time. This is not an April Fool's day joke. It's surprisingly light, quite a cutie in all-black aluminum, and I'm thinking about calling it "My Precious". Compared to my (beige) EDP it looks positively high-tech. I would like to publicly thank Bob for: 1) Dreaming the dream. 2) Putting the sweat into making it real. 3) Sharing the results of his efforts with us. 4) Listening to what we want. (What a concept!) 5) Communicating so amazingly well about the product's status. (Really, think about it.) Thanks, Bob! It's just a guess, but I think my wife is going to be irritated at how little I get done 'round the house this weekend. Simply playing with the multiple independent stereo tracks, punching them in/out at will, results in spontaneous laughter. Way too easy, way too much freedom... way fun. Ken From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 22:51:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E2D63C045; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xl/aFGXkN+ERaEUYzUMydRL8wriuUF7H+WHXbcntTw3Ctarofzodvu3wDwSegxrc5RrPJyNekKxSMyd/UMcUpMTk3nBozcxcXwX1wTAZI25QuYMHYG6MDpgZvwYS4hjWw8Y3TbAd5j0ExJTQVmVawFddoAvXrTluYGrUMNkQ/7s= ; Message-ID: <20060401225146.61439.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 14:51:46 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Looperlatives are arriving. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Woo hoo hoody hooo hooooo! I've not received mine yet, but I echo the sentiment of Ken. Bob's done an amazing job communicating to his customers all through this project. Ken, I'd love to hear your first impressions and ideas of how to use this new looper. Mark --- "Ken.H" wrote: > > Hi, > > Hoooh-boy... here we go! > > L-D'ers rejoice... the first production run > Looperlative LP1s are > arriving. I thought I was going to have to have a > sleepless Monday > night, but Santa in the big Brown truck showed up > this morning. Mine > arrived at it's new home on Saturday at 11:40am > Pacific time. This > is not an April Fool's day joke. > > It's surprisingly light, quite a cutie in all-black > aluminum, and I'm > thinking about calling it "My Precious". Compared > to my (beige) EDP > it looks positively high-tech. > > I would like to publicly thank Bob for: > 1) Dreaming the dream. > 2) Putting the sweat into making it real. > 3) Sharing the results of his efforts with us. > 4) Listening to what we want. (What a concept!) > 5) Communicating so amazingly well about the > product's status. > (Really, think about it.) > > Thanks, Bob! > > It's just a guess, but I think my wife is going to > be irritated at > how little I get done 'round the house this weekend. > Simply playing > with the multiple independent stereo tracks, > punching them in/out at > will, results in spontaneous laughter. Way too > easy, way too much > freedom... way fun. > > Ken > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 22:54:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ACB43C047; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060401225146.61439.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060401225146.61439.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 17:54:22 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Looperlatives are arriving. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:54:25 +0000 (UTC) What's the price of that box?? >Woo hoo hoody hooo hooooo! > >I've not received mine yet, but I echo the sentiment >of Ken. Bob's done an amazing job communicating to >his customers all through this project. > >Ken, I'd love to hear your first impressions and ideas >of how to use this new looper. > >Mark > >--- "Ken.H" wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Hoooh-boy... here we go! >> >> L-D'ers rejoice... the first production run >> Looperlative LP1s are >> arriving. I thought I was going to have to have a >> sleepless Monday >> night, but Santa in the big Brown truck showed up >> this morning. Mine >> arrived at it's new home on Saturday at 11:40am >> Pacific time. This >> is not an April Fool's day joke. >> >> It's surprisingly light, quite a cutie in all-black >> aluminum, and I'm >> thinking about calling it "My Precious". Compared >> to my (beige) EDP >> it looks positively high-tech. >> >> I would like to publicly thank Bob for: >> 1) Dreaming the dream. >> 2) Putting the sweat into making it real. >> 3) Sharing the results of his efforts with us. >> 4) Listening to what we want. (What a concept!) >> 5) Communicating so amazingly well about the >> product's status. >> (Really, think about it.) >> >> Thanks, Bob! >> >> It's just a guess, but I think my wife is going to >> be irritated at >> how little I get done 'round the house this weekend. >> Simply playing >> with the multiple independent stereo tracks, >> punching them in/out at >> will, results in spontaneous laughter. Way too >> easy, way too much >> freedom... way fun. >> >> Ken >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 23:12:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F10793C051; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060401225146.61439.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060401225146.61439.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 08:12:45 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: Looperlatives are arriving. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:12:51 +0000 (UTC) At 2:51 PM -0800 4/1/06, mark sottilaro wrote: >--- "Ken.H" wrote: > >\> L-D'ers rejoice... the first production run Looperlative LP1s are > > arriving. I thought I was going to have to have a sleepless Monday > > night, but Santa in the big Brown truck showed up this morning. Mine > > arrived at it's new home on Saturday at 11:40am Pacific time. This > > is not an April Fool's day joke. > >I've not received mine yet, but I echo the sentiment >of Ken. Bob's done an amazing job communicating to >his customers all through this project. I'll echo that as well! Bob has been the model manufacturer -- always keeping his user base updated as to where the manufacturing process stands, as well as realistically and politely evaluating every whacked-out new feature request we've thrown at him. Bob deserves *major* kudos, since only about 1% of all manufacturers are ever this accessible (and, yes, i am counting the other various hardware/software developers on this list within that 1%). I can hardly wait to see what new innovations he's got in store. >Ken, I'd love to hear your first impressions and ideas >of how to use this new looper. Me too!!! My LP-1 is now being shipped, but unfortunately I won't be back home to pick it up for a few weeks. I gambled and lost that my unit would arrive before I had to leave town on a previously planned trip to Japan & Thailand (yeah, i know: boo hoo, poor me. ;) Until I get back, I'm gonna have to live vicariously through you guys, so let the gear g33king begin. :) --m. -- _______ "Snakes, as the great philosophers used to say, on a motherfucking plane...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 1 23:19:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06C793C058; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-270178176 Message-Id: <86f4796983a55d3b0776d5bd19087402@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: vintage eh16 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:20:18 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: <-lnfw.A.QyG.6pwLEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:19:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-270178176 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Stan, Yeah. there used to be a Vietnamese guy in NYC who repaired them too. I did my homework (just in case). I think he used to work in Mike Matthews' former downtown tenement /hole/factory building as assembly/tech/QC staff or something. Vic Van Tran something or other . . . I forget. Very asian name and heavy accent. Nels has used his 16 for a long time. Used to set it on top of an amp =20= (or a stool) at the side to keep it handy -- nobody likes to bend over. We all =20 figure out ways around it. Hehehe. My MO was to use the footpedal and keep the EH16 in a waist-high "desk" of sorts that I made to house all my EH FX -- I liked to work the sliders and the modulation controls as well. Nels used to have a regular gig in L.A. (Santa Monica actually) down at a place called the Alligator Lounge. Jeff Kaiser and I used to go =20 there all the time. I played there a time or two too. New Music Mondays I =20 think is what they called it. Jeff Kaiser has played there a few times as =20 well. Them was the days. Hehehe. I've probably seen Nels a dozen times and shared the same stage on a couple. He was always someone who we/everyone said shoulda be BIG. But wasn't for some reason at the time. Now he's with Wilco and on the cover of GP and finally well and fairly acknowledged. He deserves avery bit of it. He's a nice guy. I was feeling really, REALLY depressed at the bar after a totally "crap" set at the Alligator once and he came up spontaneously and volunteered some very kind and encouraging words. I'll never forget =20= that. Cheers, tEd =AE kiLLiAn On Apr 1, 2006, at 2:03 PM, stanitarium wrote: > hey ted thanx fer the props! > back@cha. > yeah i got the footcontroller for the EH16DDL too-very cool idea they =20= > had > for that. > i never use it tho'...i see the unit as a hand held device-and as far =20= > as > repair-nonexistant afaik- > i have talked to NelsCline about repair and he said "its tuff, there =20= > used to > be a guy in Texas, but..." "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? --Apple-Mail-2-270178176 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Stan, Yeah. there used to be a Vietnamese guy in NYC who repaired them=20 too. I did my homework (just in case). I think he used to work in Mike Matthews' former downtown tenement /hole/factory building as=20 assembly/tech/QC staff or something. Vic Van Tran something=20 or other . . . I forget. Very asian name and heavy accent. Nels has used his 16 for a long time. Used to set it on top of an amp (or a stool) at the side to keep it handy -- nobody likes to bend over. We all figure out ways around it. Hehehe. My MO was to use the footpedal and keep the EH16 in a waist-high "desk" of sorts that I made to house all my EH FX -- I liked to work the sliders and the modulation controls as well. Nels used to have a regular gig in L.A. (Santa Monica actually) down at a place called the Alligator Lounge. Jeff Kaiser and I used to go there all the time. I played there a time or two too. New Music Mondays I think is what they called it. Jeff Kaiser has played there a few times as well. Them was the days. Hehehe. I've probably seen Nels a dozen times=20 and shared the same stage on a couple.=20 He was always someone who we/everyone said shoulda be BIG. But wasn't for some reason at the time. Now he's with Wilco and on the cover of GP and finally well and fairly acknowledged. He deserves avery bit of it. He's a nice guy. I was feeling really, REALLY depressed at the bar after=20 a totally "crap" set at the Alligator once and he came up spontaneously and volunteered some very kind and encouraging words. I'll never forget that. Cheers, tEd =AE kiLLiAn On Apr 1, 2006, at 2:03 PM, stanitarium wrote: hey ted thanx fer the props! back@cha. yeah i got the footcontroller for the EH16DDL too-very cool idea they had for that. i never use it tho'...i see the unit as a hand held device-and as far as repair-nonexistant afaik- i have talked to NelsCline about repair and he said "its tuff, there used to be a guy in Texas, but..." 8080,8080,8080"Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? --Apple-Mail-2-270178176-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 2 03:00:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A18403BFBD; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <125101c65601$979ea370$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Cc: "Hartung, Kris" Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: The Boise Experimental Music Festival (BEMF) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 20:00:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_124E_01C655C6.EA63C350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 520, in=269413, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:00:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_124E_01C655C6.EA63C350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Boise Idaho, Friday, April 28 and Saturday, April 29 2006 ~ Visual Arts = Collective, at 1419 Grove Street, continues its commitment to the Boise = Area art and music communities with the presentation of the Boise = Experimental Music Festival (BEMF) B.E.M.F. is a first-of-its-kind, two-day event that will celebrate and = ignite the experimental music scene in Boise and the surrounding = Treasure Valley. 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------=_NextPart_000_124E_01C655C6.EA63C350-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 2 03:14:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E0283BFF7; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=iQhojSUTINwmPywQGJq3uAl/AXO7A8QZl1k8zrYfGOZle/4EQvbS2GtYIE+6XWYj; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-2200640231847210@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vintage eh16 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:18:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da9409479e7d9334440e8f9259ab8e656e1e2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.149 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:14:58 +0000 (UTC) The great Roger Miller used to put his EH16 on a music stand. Between that, a Big Muff, and the wonderful Boss RPS-10, he could do all kinds of sonic damage!! ~Tim www.myspace.com/timmungenast www.cdbaby.com/all/timgoat > [Original Message] > From: tEd ® kiLLiAn > To: > Date: 4/1/2006 6:19:23 PM > Subject: Re: vintage eh16 > > Stan, > > Yeah. there used to be a Vietnamese guy in NYC who repaired them > too. I did my homework (just in case). I think he used to work in Mike > Matthews' former downtown tenement /hole/factory building as > assembly/tech/QC staff or something. Vic Van Tran something > or other . . . I forget. Very asian name and heavy accent. > > Nels has used his 16 for a long time. Used to set it on top of an amp > (or a stool) > at the side to keep it handy -- nobody likes to bend over. We all > figure out > ways around it. Hehehe. My MO was to use the footpedal and keep the > EH16 in a waist-high "desk" of sorts that I made to house all my EH FX > -- I liked to work the sliders and the modulation controls as well. > > Nels used to have a regular gig in L.A. (Santa Monica actually) down > at a place called the Alligator Lounge. Jeff Kaiser and I used to go > there > all the time. I played there a time or two too. New Music Mondays I > think > is what they called it. Jeff Kaiser has played there a few times as > well. > Them was the days. Hehehe. I've probably seen Nels a dozen times > and shared the same stage on a couple. > > He was always someone who we/everyone said shoulda be BIG. But wasn't > for some reason at the time. Now he's with Wilco and on the cover of GP > and finally well and fairly acknowledged. He deserves avery bit of it. > > He's a nice guy. I was feeling really, REALLY depressed at the bar after > a totally "crap" set at the Alligator once and he came up spontaneously > and volunteered some very kind and encouraging words. I'll never forget > that. > > Cheers, > > tEd ® kiLLiAn > > On Apr 1, 2006, at 2:03 PM, stanitarium wrote: > > > hey ted thanx fer the props! > > back@cha. > > yeah i got the footcontroller for the EH16DDL too-very cool idea they > > had > > for that. > > i never use it tho'...i see the unit as a hand held device-and as far > > as > > repair-nonexistant afaik- > > i have talked to NelsCline about repair and he said "its tuff, there > > used to > > be a guy in Texas, but..." > > "Different is not always better, but better is always different" > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi? > step=view_profile&id=121197000042 > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 2 04:14:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AE5F3C007; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 04:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Jd8PrtxlXpKFTccIwrWttcoX0x69w21PdBiQS511dt29pEeKNhhieQ5tckiShIN3; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:13:50 -0800 Subject: FW: vintage eh16 From: stanitarium To: Loopers-Delight Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48b334f17d7bc0adc52db25658b945ed9760db60e8d83655cd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 165.247.200.165 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 04:14:23 +0000 (UTC) ---------- From: stanitarium Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:13:26 -0800 To: Subject: Re: vintage eh16 yep got that great cd-'elemental guitar' on sst. in '95. he says in the credits: the electro harmonix 16-second digital delay and the Lexicon Vortex and Jamman devices were used extensively on this cd. was searching for a pic on the web like on the back of the cd: an overhead view of roger w/ his strat sittin down w bigmuff, volped on floor and 16sec delay on music stand...wish i could scan and print photo... oh well anybody need a copy of this(outa print) i could burn a copy if thats legal and legit(dont know). s on 4/1/06 7:18 PM, Timothy Mungenast at mungenast@earthlink.net wrote: > The great Roger Miller used to put his EH16 on a music stand. Between that, > a Big Muff, and the wonderful Boss RPS-10, he could do all kinds of sonic > damage!! > ~Tim > www.myspace.com/timmungenast > www.cdbaby.com/all/timgoat > > >> [Original Message] >> From: tEd ? kiLLiAn >> To: >> Date: 4/1/2006 6:19:23 PM >> Subject: Re: vintage eh16 >> >> Stan, >> >> Yeah. there used to be a Vietnamese guy in NYC who repaired them >> too. I did my homework (just in case). I think he used to work in Mike >> Matthews' former downtown tenement /hole/factory building as >> assembly/tech/QC staff or something. Vic Van Tran something >> or other . . . I forget. Very asian name and heavy accent. >> >> Nels has used his 16 for a long time. Used to set it on top of an amp >> (or a stool) >> at the side to keep it handy -- nobody likes to bend over. We all >> figure out >> ways around it. Hehehe. My MO was to use the footpedal and keep the >> EH16 in a waist-high "desk" of sorts that I made to house all my EH FX >> -- I liked to work the sliders and the modulation controls as well. >> >> Nels used to have a regular gig in L.A. (Santa Monica actually) down >> at a place called the Alligator Lounge. Jeff Kaiser and I used to go >> there >> all the time. I played there a time or two too. New Music Mondays I >> think >> is what they called it. Jeff Kaiser has played there a few times as >> well. >> Them was the days. Hehehe. I've probably seen Nels a dozen times >> and shared the same stage on a couple. >> >> He was always someone who we/everyone said shoulda be BIG. But wasn't >> for some reason at the time. Now he's with Wilco and on the cover of GP >> and finally well and fairly acknowledged. He deserves avery bit of it. >> >> He's a nice guy. I was feeling really, REALLY depressed at the bar after >> a totally "crap" set at the Alligator once and he came up spontaneously >> and volunteered some very kind and encouraging words. I'll never forget >> that. >> >> Cheers, >> >> tEd ? kiLLiAn >> >> On Apr 1, 2006, at 2:03 PM, stanitarium wrote: >> >>> hey ted thanx fer the props! >>> back@cha. >>> yeah i got the footcontroller for the EH16DDL too-very cool idea they >>> had >>> for that. >>> i never use it tho'...i see the unit as a hand held device-and as far >>> as >>> repair-nonexistant afaik- >>> i have talked to NelsCline about repair and he said "its tuff, there >>> used to >>> be a guy in Texas, but..." >> >> "Different is not always better, but better is always different" >> >> http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html >> http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian >> http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html >> http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina >> http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 >> http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 >> http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 >> http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi? >> step=view_profile&id=121197000042 >> >> Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, >> BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, >> AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, >> RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, >> and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 2 06:30:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D69D3BFF7; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 06:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: References: <20060401225146.61439.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <71fb939134115668b2a063d8e40c3b9b@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suit & Tie Guy Subject: Re: Looperlatives are arriving. Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 00:30:06 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 06:30:09 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 1, 2006, at 5:12 PM, mech wrote: > I'll echo that as well! Bob has been the model manufacturer -- always > keeping his user base updated as to where the manufacturing process > stands yeaup. there's a whole bunch of people in analogue-land about a couple of people who _don't_ keep the customers updated. in fact, they don't communicate at all. thanks, bob. i look forward to owning one of these. sometime. --- Suit & Tie Guy www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 2 09:48:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F0173BF86; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <86f4796983a55d3b0776d5bd19087402@charter.net> References: <86f4796983a55d3b0776d5bd19087402@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0df795cb4f7f3ec94cde27844126c0c0@pfmentum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: Re: vintage eh16 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 01:48:54 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:48:59 +0000 (UTC) I had the pleasure of sharing the stage Friday night with Nels. We both =20= played in the Vinny Golia Large Ensemble at the REDCAT Theater at the =20= Disney Concert Hall.....Vinny wrote a kind of "double concerto" for =20 Nels and Jeremy Drake (a fantastic young guitarist in LA.) They both =20 did a lot of cool looping, Jeremy with a DL4 and Nels with that same =20 lovely looper he's used for years...very creative guitars and =20 electronics....with a 40 piece band as well....It will probably be =20 released on NineWinds later this year.....worth checking out when it =20 comes out. best, Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:20 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > Stan, > > Yeah. there used to be a Vietnamese guy in NYC who repaired them > too. I did my homework (just in case). I think he used to work in Mike > Matthews' former downtown tenement /hole/factory building as > assembly/tech/QC staff or something. Vic Van Tran something > or other . . . I forget. Very asian name and heavy accent. > > Nels has used his 16 for a long time. Used to set it on top of an amp =20= > (or a stool) > at the side to keep it handy -- nobody likes to bend over. We all =20 > figure out > ways around it. Hehehe. My MO was to use the footpedal and keep the > EH16 in a waist-high "desk" of sorts that I made to house all my EH FX > -- I liked to work the sliders and the modulation controls as well. > > Nels used to have a regular gig in L.A. (Santa Monica actually) down > at a place called the Alligator Lounge. Jeff Kaiser and I used to go =20= > there > all the time. I played there a time or two too. New Music Mondays I =20= > think > is what they called it. Jeff Kaiser has played there a few times as =20= > well. > Them was the days. Hehehe. I've probably seen Nels a dozen times > and shared the same stage on a couple. > > He was always someone who we/everyone said shoulda be BIG. But wasn't > for some reason at the time. Now he's with Wilco and on the cover of = GP > and finally well and fairly acknowledged. He deserves avery bit of it. > > He's a nice guy. I was feeling really, REALLY depressed at the bar =20 > after > a totally "crap" set at the Alligator once and he came up = spontaneously > and volunteered some very kind and encouraging words. I'll never =20 > forget that. > > Cheers, > > tEd =AE kiLLiAn > > On Apr 1, 2006, at 2:03 PM, stanitarium wrote: > >> hey ted thanx fer the props! >> back@cha. >> yeah i got the footcontroller for the EH16DDL too-very cool idea they = =20 >> had >> for that. >> i never use it tho'...i see the unit as a hand held device-and as far = =20 >> as >> repair-nonexistant afaik- >> i have talked to NelsCline about repair and he said "its tuff, there =20= >> used to >> be a guy in Texas, but..." > > "Different is not always better, but better is always different" > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 > step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 2 18:46:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D18F3BF8D; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-340120191 Message-Id: From: Ronan Chris Murphy Subject: Re: vintage eh16 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:46:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:46:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-340120191 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > Nels Cline in the Apr issue of Guitar Player uses one and he offers > up some > good stuff. he does what i do-(surprise!) : run yer signal thru it at > all > times and when you find something loop worthy-bring up the mix and the > feedback and then...s I am going to be recording Nels at my studio in a couple days. I am really excited to try and pick up a trick or two (even though I only have the re-issue.) Ronan Chris Murphy www.venetowest.com (Production & mixing: King Crimson, Chucho Valdes, Steve Morse, Terry Bozzio, CGT...) www.homerecordingbootcamp.com (Workshops around the world teaching the art and craft of recording ) www.livesofthesaints.net (The hottest ambient noise duo since Sonny & Cher) --Apple-Mail-1-340120191 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Nels Cline in the Apr issue of Guitar Player uses one and he offers up some good stuff. he does what i do-(surprise!) : run yer signal thru it at all times and when you find something loop worthy-bring up the mix and the feedback and then...s I am going to be recording Nels at my studio in a couple days. I am really excited to try and pick up a trick or two (even though I only have the re-issue.) Ronan Chris Murphy www.venetowest.com (Production & mixing: King Crimson, Chucho Valdes, Steve Morse, Terry Bozzio, CGT...) www.homerecordingbootcamp.com (Workshops around the world teaching the art and craft of recording ) www.livesofthesaints.net (The hottest ambient noise duo since Sonny & Cher) --Apple-Mail-1-340120191-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 2 19:41:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE7F63BF91; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 19:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:10:42 +0300 From: Denis 'Diz' Loskutnikov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) Personal Reply-To: Denis 'Diz' Loskutnikov Organization: FWD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9444455906.20060403001042@spacenet.ru> To: mech Subject: Re[3]: stutter in a pedal In-reply-To: References: <1552570968.20060331023900@spacenet.ru> <1662035078.20060331234735@spacenet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 19:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Hello! Saturday, April 01, 2006, 3:19:53 PM, you wrote: >>Thank you! I worried if my English is understandable :-) m> Perfectly understandable. Don't worry about a thing! Ok. m> And, to echo Simeon's question, are you going to be producing these m> for the general market? If so, how much would you like to charge? I think about producing a small run and selling via web. About price - I don't know yet since I build a prototype only. Need to do some calculation. And there is a couple of other problems. Paypal won't work with Russia, and cooperation with our post and customs is a little tricky. Hope I'll solve this. -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 2 20:09:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F03983BF98; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Yt5HLQz+3TRZE3XpBahLEroJvooXXcFyp8IOjZf+y5Yntn0ySirtvnrPjsfK0CUm; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:09:23 -0800 Subject: Re: vintage eh16 From: stanitarium To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48f6c5e2c9b60f96161c1dcae8f6ed0ae2133ed92d71017c35350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 165.247.202.174 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:09:53 +0000 (UTC) wow-thats cool-if you can -bring yer unit for him to see-these are two way different loop boxes and i for one would love to hear his comments... you cant do anything on the new one like ya can on the old one(i've found...maybe theres a trick i'm missing to get them to act alike.) s on 4/2/06 10:46 AM, Ronan Chris Murphy at looper@venetowest.com wrote: > I am going to be recording Nels at my studio in a couple days. I am > really excited to try and pick up a trick or two (even though I only > have the re-issue.) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 2 20:53:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1227C3BF88; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M3hPqx8OOzyrAfv51pJAVubhrF+TJqRdyFmFuNSNc+N+esQtdiQq9mCz1tpN5+XGT2Js1HFk+DVUDenHFbNREZdGibV80wWlS/l+hBxXBvvriBYyCd2RyUzlqKz4gv7Yq+rqBdKrTR7ig0YGuCsvt7SH9Bg+nbAyFjP/p8OyjgU= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 16:53:43 -0400 From: "Nick Schillace" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cheap FX for Teaching In-Reply-To: <004801c6550b$3c024220$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <004801c6550b$3c024220$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:53:47 +0000 (UTC) thanks guys! ns On 3/31/06, Tony K wrote: > I have a DOD Tec 4 that is 1/2 decent. The distortions are crappy, but t= he > rest of the fx are ok. I use it for my synths these days. You can get t= hem > on ebay for like $20 used. No looping or drum machine though. Most of t= he > fx have limited settings but it's certainly usable. > > Also, the Digitech RP50 is pretty reasonable. I've seen them on ebay for > about $60 (buy it now). Again, no looping, but lots of fx and a drum > machine with 30 patterns. > > I'd go with the Digitech myself. $60 isn't bad for an fx unit. > > Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Schillace" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 11:26 AM > Subject: Cheap FX for Teaching > > > HI- > > i was wondering if anyone might be able to suggest a nice multi FX to > use when teaching guitar/bass. i run an instruction studio here in > detroit that does about 200 lessons per week (mostly guitar). > > i have 3 rooms for guitar so i would need something cheap to get one > for each room. it doesn't have to have spectacular quality FX but it > would be great to have something with wide range of choices to expose > students to a lot of sounds. of course it would be GREAT to have a > modest looper included with some overdub capabilities. some type of > drum machine would be cool too. > > any help? > > nick schillace > www.nickschillace.com > www.myspace.com/nickschillace > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 03:54:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B45FF3BF71; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 03:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" , Subject: the PiNG presents WHIPPOORWILL & POLMO POLPO Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 23:56:45 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000301c656d2$a04d76f0$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 03:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Psst . . . the PiNG has quietly been working with Jon Spencer to bring Robert Rich back to Toronto for a performance as part of his 2006 Spring Tour. We're still working out the final details, so things are subject to change, but here's the scoop: THE AMBiENT PiNG & Jon Spencer Present ROBERT RICH . LiVE . SATURDAY APRiL 29th 2006 Holy Trinity Church . 10 Trinity Square, Toronto (south of Dundas . west of Yonge . behind The Eaton Centre) More details and ticket info soon @ http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG . http://www.theambientping.com Tuesdays @ HACiENDA . 794 Bathurst Street at Bloor . Toronto (upstairs - directly across from the Bathurst subway station) Doors open at 9pm . 1st set at 9:30 . PayWhatYouCan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THiS Tuesday April 4th . WHIPPOORWILL (Chris Gartner, & Great Bob Scott) and POLMO POLPO (Sandro Perri) WHIPPOORWILL is a new duo from the former Look People rhythm section of bassist/guitarist Chris Gartner, and drummer Great Bob Scott. This is an exciting and innovative group that creates a forest of sound and texture with just two people. Gartner plays composed guitar and bass loops live, switching instruments within the pieces to form the illusion of a number of players at once. Scott's infamous drumming is spiced with electronic triggering, and samples. Dense multitracked soundscapes composed by Gartner, and live video projections augment their live shows. The two members of WHIPPOORWILL have been part of a number of high profile acts over the years. They both toured Europe and North America as members of Canada's legendary "Look People", and appeared in recordings, magazines, television shows, rock videos, and Lollapalooza festivals with the group. http://www.myspace.com/chrisandgreatbob Also on the bill, Polmo Polpo is the solo project of Toronto composer, musician and producer Sandro Perri. Between 1999 and 2002, he released several full length and EP releases, beginning with his own label, Audi Sensa, and later moving on to various releases with Alien8, Intr-version, and Constellation. Perri operates in a strange netherworld between avant-dub and more post-rock influences and pointedly incorporates traditional instruments into his electronic experiments "as part of the fabric." Polmo Polpo creates a unique blend of dense and intoxicating layers of hisses and crackles, looped percussion, long-burn drones and submerged rhythms overlaid with instrumental sources (slide guitar, strings, accordion). "Polmo Polpo" loosely translates as "octopus lung" in Italian. Much of Perri's music is reminiscent of deepwater, photic zone atmospheres. http://www.alien8recordings.com/subsf05.php3 http://www.audisensa.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Before Sets CD . Rainforest by Robert Rich Well how could we not given the above news. To celebrate Robert Rich's return to the ambient north, we'll be featuring some of our favourites from his extensive catalogue as we lead up to his Toronto performance at the end of April. Tonight we drift back to 1989 to hear the polyrhythmic, electroaccoustic journey of Rainforest which was the introduction for many of us here to Robert's sonic realms of "glurp" and "shimmer." http://www.robertrich.com Between Sets CD . Degrees of Separation by The Circular Ruins Tonight we feature Degrees of Separation by Anthony Paul Kerby's The Circular Ruins. APK's music is a complex and distinctive amalgam of ambient, groove ambient, and experimental forms of electronica. Read more about it here in rik's *ping things* CD review below and hear it Tuesday @ the PiNG. http://www.databloem.com/z_tcr.htm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG Tuesday April 11th . PHOLDE and Greg Lauzon It's a night of heavy metal, PiNG style, as Alan Bloor returns as Pholde to bow, scrape, brush and caress his self created metal sound sculptures with other metal objects to produce atmospheric hauntingly spacious soundscapes. http://www.theambientping.com/pholde/home.html Next up will be Greg Lauzon's first live performance with his recently built Spring Dulcimer which is like a Hammered Dulcimer except that it uses springs instead of wire strings. Greg will also be using a pan drum and a Yang Chin (Chinese Hammered Dulcimer) and effects to compliment the Spring Dulcimer. The show will be an exploration of melodic ambient percussion. Some songs will be pre-written, others will be improvised within the East Indian Ragas. http://www.greglauzon.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . rik maclean's *ping things* CD Reviews The Circular Ruins . "Degrees of Separation" Anthony Paul Kirby has proven time and time again that he is an impressive musical talent with a firm understanding of ambient/electronic ideals. Over the years his work as both The Circular Ruins and Lammergeyer has delighted and inspired me, leaving both a strong impression and a tremendous appreciation for his work. And so it should come as no surprise that I'm quite taken with his latest release as The Circular Ruins "Degrees of Separation". It's a stunning collection that stands up with the best of Kirby's catalogue, continuing and developing on the work that he's done in the past. The long form piece "Epiphenomena" opens the disc, a masterful blend of drone and melody interspersed with infrequent samples. It's a fascinating work that unfolds over the course of it's sixteen plus minutes, where a bed of dark ambience anchors the track while lighter tones rise up to break the surface. Melodic phrases and occasional notes run throughout the track providing touchstones and reference points for the work as a whole, giving suggestions of theme and ideal, but never giving the plot away so much that you can't imbue it with your own meaning, your own understanding. The title track "Degrees of Separation" follows, a study in connectivity where form and pattern is created by association. It's a very dense piece with many levels all blending together in a loosely woven mix, masterfully assembled in such a way as to form bonds between it's elements while still allowing for those same elements to retain a certain distinction between them. Track three, "Doon Hill", is a fine example of locational ambience, a piece meant to evoke the memory of a particular magical spot in Scotland where the barriers between our world and Faerie are thinner than the norm. While I've never visited Doon Hill myself, Kirby has done an excellent job in recreating it's charms enough so that I feel I've been there in some way. Maybe seeing such a magical environment in my mind's eye makes it even more real to me than an actual physical visit? Either way it's a testimony to Kirby's talent that I can feel so connected to this space. "Empty Hands" uses oblique motion as a backdrop for a series of subtle arpeggios and almost jazzy riffs. Beautiful and bright in it's presentation, "Empty Hands" brings to mind future possibilities and hope, the chance to go beyond our limitations to create something new and better. The fifth track "Departure" moves away from the drone textures used in earlier tracks, opting instead to use a burbling synth that plays underneath a series of beautifully sweeping pads. Sublime and lovely, this one is surely my favourite track on the disc. "Darkness Between Them" follows in a similar pattern, employing sweeps and sustained notes to maximum effect. The track seems to exist as a companion piece to the earlier "Degrees of Separation", but where that track suggested connectivity this one gives the impression of isolation between it's elements, a strong feeling of separate existence. Still beautiful, still inspiring, but perhaps with a touch more regret in it's charms. "Subspace-Overdrive" closes the disc, a flight into space and all of the mystery that entails. Twinkling stars, meteor dust, nebulae and more, it's the sound of the heavens, the sound of beyond. A charming excursion outside of our selves and a wonderful way to close the disc. Without doubt, "Degrees of Separation" is a stunning collection that re-enforces my belief that Kirby is one of the most significant ambient/electronic artists working today. All of the tracks on this disc give pause for thought, reflection, and contemplation, all of them send the mind reeling with possibility and opportunity. An essential work by an essential talent. rik - ping things "Degrees of Separation" is on sale now at ping things! Visit http://www.pingthings.com/CIRCULARdegrees.htm to hear mp3 samples "Degrees of Separation" is one of many discs you'll hear featured on ping things radio every Sunday and Wednesday nights from 9pm to 12am EST on Live365! Tune in to http://www.live365.com/stations/marastorment to hear some great music from artists in the ping things catalogue. And as an added treat, this week's show features a special almost live performance by mara's torment! Don't miss it! http://www.pingthings.com = ambient + electronic + chill things . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * Other Toronto area sonic/visual events of interest this week: * Thursday April 6th . Improvisors' Pool The improvisors' pool is a weekly gathering for musicians who practice collective free improvisation. It welcomes players of all levels and backgrounds. 7:00-9:00 . Ralph Thornton Centre . 765 Queen Street East * Thursday, April 6th . Pianist Eve Egoyan - Double CD Launch and Concert - pianist Eve Egoyan will perform works from her two new recordings, WEAVE and ASKING, her fourth and fifth discs of music by living composers. Glenn Gould Studio, 250 Front St. West $15 - Students/seniors/arts workers $10 * Thursday April 6 . 4 in 1 Guitarist Ken Aldcroft and drummer Dave Clark blast off on a crisscross ride through the wonderful universe of T Sphere Monk. Good times guaranteed. 9pm . the Red Guitar . 603 Markham St * Friday, April 7th . Leftover Daylight Series i- Remnants Trio Ken Aldcroft- guitar, Evan Shaw- alto sax, Joe Sorbara- drums ii/iii- From Chicago Rempis Percussion Quartet Dave Rempis- alto sax, Anton Hatwich- bass, Frank Rosaly- drums, Tim Daisey- drums 9pm . ARRAYMUSIC Studio 60 Atlantic Ave., Ste 218 . $15/10 * Saturday April 8th . The Window Series - Eric Chenaux & John Oswald + Paul Swoger-Ruston & friends First set: Eric Chenaux and John Oswald improvise on hollow-body electric guitar and alto saxophone. Second set: Compositions by Paul Swoger-Ruston for electric guitar and Rhodes. Featuring Jordan Wright, Josh Thorpe, Mike Kane, Nicole Marchessau, and Richard Benedict. Lots of nice microtones! Co-presented by Arraymusic. 9.30 pm . Arraymusic Studio, 60 Atlantic, side door . $5 * Saturday, April 8th . THE GROUP OF SIXXX with FABle 8 PM . The Music Gallery . 197 John St., Toronto $10 regular/$7 members & seniors/$5 students . all ages * Sunday April 9th . The Man Show featuring Final Fantasy, Mantler, Matias + guests . two shows: 4 PM & 8 PM The Music Gallery . 197 John St. . $10 . all ages * Sunday April 9th . The NOW Series 2:00- Workshop- Ken Aldcroft- Improvisation / Composition 4:00- Aldcroft / Haas w/ ken aldcroft- guitar, andy haas- soprano saxophone 5:00- Alex Lukashevsky + guests w/ alex lukashevsky + guests 6:00- Haas / Thomson / Sorbara / Yue / Wilson w/ andy haas- soprano saxophone, scott thomson- trombone, joe sorbara- drums/percussion, andy yue- electric piano, john wilson- guitar NOW Lounge, 189 Church St. . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a social sound/art event presenting live performances by Toronto's finest ambient, chillout, improv and experimental music artists plus performers from around the world, every Tuesday evening at HACiENDA . 794 Bathurst Street at Bloor. http://www.theambientping.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any friends who may be interested in live ambient, chillout and experimental music performances or to any of your appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 03:55:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C1103BF74; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 03:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <013501c656d2$88018640$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:56:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 03:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro wrote: "Hey, I'm going to be there. If other loopers are going maybe we could meet up at the Cafe across the street and have a coffee or something?" I'd love to get together, Mark, and I have my tickets. You know the city, where should we meet and when? While we are at it: does anyone on this list have the Thomas Dolby CD that he put out for the movie "The Minds Eye". The title track on that CD is haunting me and I can't find it anywhere, would anyone who has it be so kind as to contact me offlist. I'd love to trade some of my music (or some of my compilations of Abstract Electronica or World Music) for a high quality copy of that song on CD or online. My email address is rickwalker(at)looppool(dot)com Thanks, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 05:38:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C38723BF73; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 05:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=pipeline.com; b=CnhWnUIZmpORjOmsI3n/ewMNKI7hjjYB1CQrnb9r4KH3XWe6cQKY5sMIoQvuS6q7; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <32643633.1144042714730.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 01:38:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Kim Galibert Reply-To: Kim Galibert To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: live-looping/beat-boxing/guitar synthing taking of the names, kicking of the asses Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 0897f0ab29df78f13757dce5cd59c6810f5c6dc5486dc6426d02e5544ddaf309350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.25 Resent-Message-ID: <-NfFY.A.zNB.cTLMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 05:38:36 +0000 (UTC) dan ash, adam matta and i (the other looping guy named kim) are proud to give you 'another night in tunisia', a spontaneous, live-looped, serious kick-ass jam: http://www.iosonic.com/audio/anothernightintunisia.mp3 that's dan on guit, guit synth (some of the rhode-sey stuff is him, the rest is me) and looping with his electrix repeater, adam beatboxing and giving up some serious vocal trumpet solos, and me on keys and live looping (ableton live). i've never had a more satisfying loop-based experience. feedback would be most appreciated. leave some on our blog here: http://www.projectgt.com/hba/2006/04/my_beatboxer_was_laying_down_s.html there's more on adam here: http://www.adammatta.com be well all, kim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 05:59:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A07E3BEDF; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 05:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YHsMhTxHCBE1GqTfCcohfevvSnjvE+TKSjVt3usTkxsO9Zdk4w7XYowTJwxxehN9w2Ru7AJ5OpggsX+1HKcdR+ztYQwT0HHAHgowo+fEdlVGK5yz9NLmx8FAPQcFLb6OaiLRmTW4RYpDL5q3c+u6YfJnyXs612NCSJF3Y0slfuc= ; Message-ID: <20060403055905.93898.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 22:59:05 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <013501c656d2$88018640$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 05:59:08 +0000 (UTC) There's a good little cafe across the street that's pretty inexpensive. I ate there before I saw Mike Doughty at the Independent and it struck me as a decent place to get dinner coffee and just hang. I can't help you with the Mind's Eye soundtrack. I think it disappeared with an ex girlfriend who liked it more than I did. Mark --- "loop.pool" wrote: > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > "Hey, I'm going to be there. If other loopers are > going maybe we could meet up at the Cafe across the > street and have a coffee or something?" > > I'd love to get together, Mark, and I have my > tickets. > You know the city, where should we meet and when? > > > While we are at it: does anyone on this list > have the Thomas Dolby CD > that he put out for the movie "The Minds Eye". > > The title track on that CD is haunting me and I > can't find it anywhere, > would anyone who has it be so kind as to contact me > offlist. > I'd love to trade some of my music (or some of my > compilations of Abstract > Electronica > or World Music) for a high quality copy of that song > on CD or online. > > My email address is > rickwalker(at)looppool(dot)com > > Thanks, > Rick Walker > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 08:00:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F8D83BF6D; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002601c656f4$97430a80$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <013501c656d2$88018640$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:59:51 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:00:07 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 04:56 AM Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > While we are at it: does anyone on this list have the Thomas Dolby CD > that he put out for the movie "The Minds Eye". Ah, the VHS of this was given to me some years ago and it's in storage in LA since 2000... One of these days I'll have to get back and have the biggest lawn sale of all time (anybody want a good king-size water bed frame?). There was another track from the vid, "Near Earth Object" that was pretty good too, a bit more euro I remember thinking. The guy at the storage place asked me the other week, "Hey man, you ever comin' back here?" I wish... Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 08:59:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 130323BF67; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20060403085908500.0C3427000081@mwinf1404.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <4430E3DA.6050501@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 10:59:06 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Laptop setups References: <20060321153904.qj928djhssw04wwo@webmail.bluefrog.com> <3533.88.109.254.225.1142974640.squirrel@webmail.swyatt.com> In-Reply-To: <3533.88.109.254.225.1142974640.squirrel@webmail.swyatt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9ynP8.A.BRG.ePOMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Late, but.... >>[snip] would anyone like to post their >>current live performance laptop setup, for comparison purposes? Powerbook 12" 1.5 GHz, Quatafire 610, Doepfer PocketFader, Pocket Dial, Minikeyboard, Headset microphone, my own Max/MSP software. Plus whatever makes sounds, preferably other musicians. In case they are not there, I love to use my voice and empty plastic bottles. (I also throw that in to confuse other musicians if they are there... ;-) Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 09:09:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2845A3BF6F; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20060403090952343.0855D1C0015A@mwinf0612.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:09:49 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:09:54 +0000 (UTC) mark sottilaro wrote: > I'd pretty much say that non lyrical music has no > intrinsic political qualities. I dare you to gleen a > message from any of my music. Don't bother, there > isn't one. Any art is always political... Usually very conservative politicians want to claim that art should not be political, and deliver some examples, which show that these examples are political in their sense. (aka not asking the wrong questions...) Which is very political!!! And every artist should be aware of the posibility of this sort of political abuse. If you are not aware of it, it might be political in the wrong direction. Remember "Entartete Musik" and you know what politics can be about, you can't escape it. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 12:01:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 003853BF19; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:00:51 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:01:02 +0000 (UTC) I continue to have little patience for anyone who needs to define their universe as "political", because it is these folks who want everyone to operate on that basis, involving "deals" and "transactional relationships". Great for the medium of know-nothing middlemen and career politicos with nowhere else to go, not so great for everyone else. Politics are always kept private until it is felt that more converts are required for whatever is called "the movement" right now. Then it's all dumped on the rest of us as if we're somehow lacking in character or something for disliking political types. Many people just don't care to spend the time engaging with political addicts, as it makes life a far less satisfying thing. On the other hand, democracy demands participation, lest such political types infest and ultimately slow down everything while demanding "to be heard", which usually means that what they want is for everyone to "think like me". Of course if everyone thought the same there wouldn't be any conflict - but then again we wouldn't be human anymore, just duplicates. But to declare All Art is Always Political? Such is only true for one who thinks so, and not for most others. As you can guess I don't think of peoples' relationships as political by default. Art is Art. Like it? Great. Hate it? Great. It's what one does with such experience I think that matters - but that is not Art, but ones reaction to it. So, no, Art is not Political unless it's propaganda. Then it's no longer Art, but Art Put To Use For Political Purposes, which in my opinion renders it corrupt and only assessible from an aspect of Style, in context of whatever political dross it was used to sell at the time. I've got an old Lenin pin, sold to a friend of mine by an ex-Soviet soldier on the streets of St. Petersburg in the early 90s. In the US wearing such a thing is more of a fashion blip than anything else. If I wore it in the UK anytime near May 1, I'd be thought to be a Socialist/Anarchist/whatever, aka Communism with a less-unhappy Face IMNSHO. If one is making Art that is by specification Political, at the least what one is doing is making Political Art, aka Propaganda for Political Purposes. And that's all I'll say about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" To: Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > mark sottilaro wrote: >> I'd pretty much say that non lyrical music has no >> intrinsic political qualities. I dare you to gleen a >> message from any of my music. Don't bother, there >> isn't one. > > Any art is always political... > Usually very conservative politicians want to claim that art should not be > political, and deliver some examples, which show that these examples are > political in their sense. (aka not asking the wrong questions...) > > Which is very political!!! > And every artist should be aware of the posibility of this sort of > political abuse. > > If you are not aware of it, it might be political in the wrong direction. > > Remember "Entartete Musik" and you know what politics can be about, you > can't escape it. > > Stefan > > -- > > [][] [][][] [][] [][][] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > Stefan Tiedje > Klanggestalter > Electronic Composition > & > Improvisation > > /~~~~~\ > \\\ /|() ()|\ > ))))) )| | |( \\\ > /// \ \_/)/ ))))) > \___/ /// > > -------------------------x---- > --_____-----------|----------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- > -- _|_)----|-----()----------- > ----------()------------x----- > > 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, > 94320 Thiais, France > Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 12:02:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C3473BF66; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000201c65716$7ec36730$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: Subject: ARVE HENRIKSON Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:33:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AD_01C65723.26207110" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2006 12:01:32.0432 (UTC) FILETIME=[59372100:01C65716] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:02:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01AD_01C65723.26207110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As usual, when I listen to a disc, I pay attention to all the musicians, = involved in.=20 So, in the last months, when, I was listen to the last David Sylvian = album (Slow Borne Sorrow), I was attracted by a misterious trumpet player, named (as I read in the = "micro" notes, inside that disc) Arve Henriksen (www.arvehenriksen.no/). After some research on the web I buy his last album, called = "Chiaroscuro", an italian words, meaning "light and shade" People.....this week-end I fall in love with this album, playing it over = and over in my CD player. Arve is an explorative musician: he plays is trumpet thinking to voice = and sings thinking to his trumpet, there's a lot of research in this direction, generating interesting = sounds and effects. Sometimes, his trumpet remind me Jon Hassel; sometimes Chet Baker; sometimes N. P. Molvaer; soometimes it = reminds me just ancient sounds, birds, winds..... It's in a sort of ambient style, with ethnic percussions sometimes, = and.... last but not the least:=20 there is a lot of looping (expecially used for harmonizations) . I'm sure there is someone on this list, knowing this guy.... Maybe you, Per, have you ever heard him ?=20 I'm surely interested in your opinion... For those who don't know him, I strongly raccomend it ! Fabio http://xoomer.virgilio.it/eterogeneo/ http://music.download.com/eterogeneo/3600-8357-100294444.html?tag=3Dquick= url ------=_NextPart_000_01AD_01C65723.26207110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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So, in the last months, = when,  I was listen to the last David Sylvian album (Slow = Borne=20 Sorrow),
I was attracted by = a=20 misterious trumpet player, named (as I read in the "micro" = notes,=20 inside
that disc) Arve = Henriksen (www.arvehenriksen.no/= ).
After some research on = the web I=20 buy his last album, called "Chiaroscuro", an italian words, = meaning
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Arve is an explorative = musician: he=20 plays is trumpet thinking to voice and sings thinking to his=20 trumpet,
there's a lot of = research in this=20 direction, generating interesting sounds and effects. Sometimes, his = trumpet=20 remind me
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------=_NextPart_000_01AD_01C65723.26207110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 12:46:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 845463BF6A; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [200.55.45.130] X-Originating-Email: [percurama@hotmail.com] X-Sender: percurama@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <509AFA6A-150B-4D2B-88CA-5377D92998DF@gmail.com> From: "percu rama" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: laptop vs echoplex Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:45:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2006 12:46:00.0935 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FC45F70:01C6571C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:46:02 +0000 (UTC) hi Per thanks very much for your help. I think to use the laptop only for audio but im afraid for the possible risk of "livecrush" I see yor page and ejoy veriy much , especialy the chart is very helpfull to my decision. I hope the review of the boss mc 50 I dont found the user manual. I apreciatte very much your words and please sorry my poor english. Thank you Pablo Rivas Argentina >From: Per Boysen >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: laptop vs echoplex >Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:51:04 +0200 > >On 31 mar 2006, at 15.41, percu rama wrote: > >>I have a (probably foolish) question for you. How stable is to play on >>stage with a laptop based audio system? (pentium IV (2g) 1 g ram m-audio >>410 card) >>Nowadays, softwares like Ableton's Live provide numerous creative tools, >>but, can the software replace the stability of the old echoplex? > > >Yes it can, but that's no general rule. Stability of a laptop used for >audio depends on many factors, hardware and software as well as how well >you maintain the system. So it's actually not possible say that it's >stable in general. And speaking about hardware staying power I would guess >that an EDP outlives a dozen laptops ;-) > >per > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger, la nueva generación de tu MSN. http://imagine-msn.com/minisites/messenger/default.aspx?locale=es-ar From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 13:00:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C73A3BF62; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <000201c65716$7ec36730$e701a8c0@pcfabio> References: <000201c65716$7ec36730$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5E1E85B2-74E5-4086-8DD2-F16C67D48917@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ARVE HENRIKSON Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:00:28 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: <5Ixgf.A.LaE.wxRMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:00:32 +0000 (UTC) On 3 apr 2006, at 13.33, Fabio Anile wrote: > > I'm sure there is someone on this list, knowing this guy.... Yes, I think he is great! Some months ago a bought Arild Andersen's album "Electra" (ECM 2005) where Arve plays excellent trumpet in the style you described. I haven't heard his own albums, but now I will definitely check them out. Thank you for the recommendation! BTW, Electra is another a recommendable album. Recorded in Athens with some vocals sung in ancient Greek, a language that sounds like Finnish to my ears (i.e. don't understand a word but lots of sharp sounds produced at the outer front part of the moth - very different from Danish or American English). Norwegian guitarist Eivind Aarset was also in the Athens ensemble, fretlessly howling as usual. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast? id=128679560&s=143456 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 13:34:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3776A3BF2E; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation-Mail-From: loopersdelight@swyatt.com via u15184937 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(88.109.254.225):SA:0(-1.0/5.0):. Processed in 2.010884 secs Process 5421) Message-ID: <4431242E.20303@swyatt.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:33:34 +0100 From: Stuart Wyatt User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: laptop vs echoplex References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0614-0, 04/03/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:34:09 +0000 (UTC) For me, the main issue in this discussion is cost. For the price of £600 (around the price of one mono EDP), I've just purchased a second hand laptop that has the power to emulate 16 (8 stereo pairs) EDP's. The same laptop can also emulate virtual synths/samplers (through Ableton Live) - all syncronised beautifully. When you take into account cost of building up my virtual studio in hardware form, it would cost about £15,000 for the EDP's alone (source: Thomann.de). Another £250 for leads, £200 or so for flight cases, £300 for an adequate mixing desk, £1000 for a few rack effects, £1000 for a couple of synths.... you can see where I'm getting at. In an ideal world, I would love to have a bank of EDP's or a Looperlative... Hardware will always be the safest and most reliable option, but for a struggling musician like myself, there is no other option but to go down the laptop route. As far as reliability goes, with a bit of time and patience, it is possible to set up a reliable and trustworthy laptop. Mobius, although still under development, is incredibly resilient and stable. Any bugs are quickly discovered and erradicated. As long as you use the laptop purely as a looping device, and don't connect it to the net or install lots of 'warez', I don't think that you will have many problems. I hope to be gigging soon with my new setup. A couple of years ago, I would have never believed that I would be putting my faith in a laptop on stage! :) ...just my 2 cents - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 14:06:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42DFF3BF66; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006701c65727$ca1cbd60$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <000201c65716$7ec36730$e701a8c0@pcfabio> <5E1E85B2-74E5-4086-8DD2-F16C67D48917@gmail.com> Subject: Re: ARVE HENRIKSON Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:06:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2006 14:05:20.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4DB3BD0:01C65727] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:06:33 +0000 (UTC) > Yes, I think he is great! Some months ago a bought Arild Andersen's album > "Electra" (ECM 2005) where Arve plays excellent trumpet in the style you > described. Thanks, Per, I will check it out ! And I'm sure you'll enjoy "Chiaroscuro". Ciao fabio From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 15:00:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F37BB3BF4E; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [24.0.123.55] X-Originating-Email: [jj179subs@hotmail.com] X-Sender: jj179subs@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <006701c65727$ca1cbd60$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "jj 179" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hidden tracks on cd? Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:00:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2006 15:00:38.0835 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E921830:01C6572F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:00:40 +0000 (UTC) I thought if anybody would have some good ideas, it'd be you guys, so... What are your suggestions on the best way to put a hidden track on an audio cd these days? I'm using Sony CD Architect (though I could also use Nero I suppose). I really hate the old technique of making the last song on the cd have 2-3 minutes of blank space at the end and then the new song starts. I'd like to make it actually hidden ... i.e. you can't find it unless you know where to look. So you don't just automatically hear it every time you listen to the cd (like then the last track just goes on into silence and then the hidden track starts). I'd heard of a way to do it where you put the hidden track at the *first* of the cd, before you place the track marker for track 1 - that way if you pressed "rewind" while listening to track one you'd back up into the hidden track. That way it also wouldn't automatically play the track when you're just listening to the whole album on repeat. Unfortunately, when I tried that using CD Architect, the resulting cd wouldn't let me rewing to before track one. Oh well, guess that didn't work! Any suggestions greatly appreciated. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 15:06:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 841A53BF6E; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443139E1.4050205@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:06:09 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:06:29 +0000 (UTC) I have an autechre ep with a "pre-track" on it. If I recall correctly you need to press play first, let it play for a second, and THEN rewind it. Also IIRC you can do this with CD architect, but I think you have to turn off some settings regarding red book compliance ;) Cheers, Andreas jj 179 wrote: > I thought if anybody would have some good ideas, it'd be you guys, so... > > What are your suggestions on the best way to put a hidden track on an > audio cd these days? > > I'm using Sony CD Architect (though I could also use Nero I suppose). I > really hate the old technique of making the last song on the cd have 2-3 > minutes of blank space at the end and then the new song starts. I'd like > to make it actually hidden ... i.e. you can't find it unless you know > where to look. So you don't just automatically hear it every time you > listen to the cd (like then the last track just goes on into silence and > then the hidden track starts). > > I'd heard of a way to do it where you put the hidden track at the > *first* of the cd, before you place the track marker for track 1 - that > way if you pressed "rewind" while listening to track one you'd back up > into the hidden track. That way it also wouldn't automatically play the > track when you're just listening to the whole album on repeat. > Unfortunately, when I tried that using CD Architect, the resulting cd > wouldn't let me rewing to before track one. Oh well, guess that didn't > work! > > Any suggestions greatly appreciated. > > > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 15:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9D943BF71; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F Subject: 2 Questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:12:44 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/03/2006 11:13:13 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 682FE4D51WK271596-02-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <11yZGB.A._n.9tTMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Hello All, A couple quick questions, one related to an issue I mentioned on the list a couple of months ago, one slightly off topic, but hopefully within the bounds of acceptable discussion..... #1- I am mainly a Repeater user. I am currently running a Roland RS-5 or my bass into the Repeater, then on the FX loop of the Repeater is a Boss GT6-B. Now, with this set up I can't use my amp (GK Backline 250 into an Ampeg 2x10) without horrible noise issues. I know at least some of this is due to the Repeater's inherent noise problem, which I will resolve in due time with the mod offered by AudioPros. In the meantime, though, I have the output of the Repeater hooked to a small set of computer speakers, which seem to output the loops without the same amount of background noise- but of course, being computer speakers, they don't reproduce bass or any kind of drum very well. So essentially, I am just looking for *the best way to monitor my Repeater's output at home in my music room*. I am open to all options people think might work- would a small PA do the trick? a power amp & set of monitors? A home stereo receiver & speakers ( I hooked up the Repeater tomy stereo & it sounded great)? Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm going deaf from working on headphones constantly. : ) #2- related, but slightly off topic- I just bought a Roland RS-5 synth. There is no manual, and by god I think it's the first thing I've ever encountered where the manual doesn't seem to be available anywhere on line- I've googled myself to death looking for it. I can find a patch list, a couple of brochures, but no manual. So if anyone has one, knows where to get one, or is an experienced RS-5 user that wouldn't mind letting me pick their brain, please drop me a line! Thanks all! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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I'm thinking about buying M-Audio Trigger Finger (less tap dancing :-). Is it any good? Can anyone recommend it? Cheers Nico www.recpro.ch Am 03.04.2006 um 10:59 schrieb Stefan Tiedje: > Late, but.... > >>> [snip] would anyone like to post their >>> current live performance laptop setup, for comparison purposes? > > Powerbook 12" 1.5 GHz, Quatafire 610, > Doepfer PocketFader, Pocket Dial, > Minikeyboard, Headset microphone, > my own Max/MSP software. > Plus whatever makes sounds, preferably other musicians. > In case they are not there, I love to use my voice and empty plastic > bottles. > (I also throw that in to confuse other musicians if they are there... > ;-) > > Stefan > > -- > > [][] [][][] [][] [][][] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > Stefan Tiedje > Klanggestalter > Electronic Composition > & > Improvisation > > /~~~~~\ > \\\ /|() ()|\ > ))))) )| | |( \\\ > /// \ \_/)/ ))))) > \___/ /// > > -------------------------x---- > --_____-----------|----------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- > -- _|_)----|-----()----------- > ----------()------------x----- > > 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, > 94320 Thiais, France > Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 15:25:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CE283BF54; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=da0hGU8yu61lJDp1llVmGQ3qQg0POMwfi5LTd1BhzvhFkldzWrV2ht0teNO0x7yygd6u4eXOXmZbiOtGU3NFjtdWORDeXNM2yFpow9Vw+8dWWiCzFbDtY2C82TUb3827GF7rRBwEryYWiQoMwkkQ6W7V4+lGhPi7JhBvgG8rnaU= Message-ID: <64b81a780604030825p61415d68wc4a167128f3ae8d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:25:42 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) In-Reply-To: <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Nice post, Stephen. It reminds me of the old saying "If all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." Personally, I feel that music & art in general have the ability to move people, to alter their emotions, to stir them up or calm them down. (It also has the ability to make people think, but that is not as relevant here as politicos don't want thinkers, they want followers.) As an emotional tool, art can be used and misused to influence large masses of people. Movie soundtracks are the obvious example. Watch a love scene with no music and it feels less powerful than it does with the strings swelling behind the action. When it's well done the music's influence is almost subconcious. It's so powerful an influence that it must be rule #2 in the propagandists handbook right after the rule of repition. So, even if there is no inherent political intent in an artist's work, as Mark says, it's all too easy to incorporate the emotional strength of a piece into a larger message of propaganda. (Hell, look at all the car commercials in the past few years that use Led Zeppelin & Rolling Stones songs to sell SUVs. These songs aren't about selling cars, they're about a freedom of the spirit, about Rock & Roll, but if that's the image you want to attach to your product you've got a powerful propaganda tool.) Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the artist intends. Todd On 4/3/06, Stephen Goodman wrote: > I continue to have little patience for anyone who needs to define their > universe as "political", because it is these folks who want everyone to > operate on that basis, involving "deals" and "transactional relationships= ". > Great for the medium of know-nothing middlemen and career politicos with > nowhere else to go, not so great for everyone else.... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 15:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F28EE3BF52; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RBFUm1sh5+OEBswSreFh8u+7RWgU0g2KT6VT5vlYSfPR+vIvjOIfK8NvwKrdt9/acXSGmlpy1SLT9ZBsze2h2nCDK7HrD+XmOoZz2CHtfgkPAF7DpZcgW9XNvRZUJr7DzMOGsHL5F+Ui7Kg6yN+ejFddeKWSS3sQrauk9eRb/F0= Message-ID: <64b81a780604030851v23efd2c8j5f017d7903dc31a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:51:11 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? In-Reply-To: <443139E1.4050205@post.cybercity.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <443139E1.4050205@post.cybercity.dk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:51:12 +0000 (UTC) My suggestion for hiding tracks on a CD? Don't. Let me just chime in on the side against hidden tracks. I love the tracks, but I hate the fact that they're hidden. Call 'em bonus tracks and slap them on at the end. Don't make us muck about with silence at the end of an album or a track that I have to rewind to before track 1. If you don't want us to hear it, don't put it on the disc. If you do want us to hear it, put it there and let us access it. Hidden tracks were cool & clever fifteen years ago. Now, I just want to listen to the music. Todd, feeling like a curmudgeon this morning. :) On 4/3/06, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: > I have an autechre ep with a "pre-track" on it. If I recall correctly > you need to press play first, let it play for a second, and THEN rewind > it. Also IIRC you can do this with CD architect, but I think you have to > turn off some settings regarding red book compliance ;) > > Cheers, > Andreas > > jj 179 wrote: > > I thought if anybody would have some good ideas, it'd be you guys, so..= . > > > > What are your suggestions on the best way to put a hidden track on an > > audio cd these days? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 15:54:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA3773BF4F; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:54:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3nki@modaldub.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <2833.128.193.37.212.1143840918.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <7A2F7301-BBED-417F-BC3F-5E64BE42F955@modaldub.net> <2833.128.193.37.212.1143840918.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9BBA66C9-38CD-4E45-8950-FB2DAB77A79F@modaldub.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> Subject: Re: Let's call the whole thing off (Was: music is political) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:54:19 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - space.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - modaldub.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <4Fvs0.A.CAC.qUUMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:54:18 +0000 (UTC) it seems we proved ye olde adage wrong, and there were indeed some interesting comments, learning sharing and so on. fire and blood are the raw stuff of life, and i don't think passion or conflict should always be avoided. what a boring world that would be! all hail eris! -3nki On Mar 31, 2006, at 6:35 PM, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > Everything is political. Everything is also religious. But on the > musical > lists that I subscribe to, the folks in worship bands don't feel > called upon > to witness for their faith and for that I am truly grateful. > > Mentioning politics and religion are the surest ways to start flame > wars. And > flame wars are boring. Let's stick to the technical and cultural > stuff okay? > > My two cents. Now I'll keep my mouth shut. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 15:55:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25ED73BF66; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation-Mail-From: loopersdelight@swyatt.com via u15184937 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(88.109.254.225):SA:0(-0.9/5.0):. Processed in 1.745063 secs Process 15090) Message-ID: <44314558.8010809@swyatt.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:55:04 +0100 From: Stuart Wyatt User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <64b81a780604030825p61415d68wc4a167128f3ae8d6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604030825p61415d68wc4a167128f3ae8d6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0614-0, 04/03/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <2wu6wB.A.rEC.jVUMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:55:16 +0000 (UTC) ...So could someone please tell me which chords are left wing, and which chords are right wing? And are there any cadences that have true communist beliefs? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 16:01:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4F323BF50; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mY6L5/T9RazVBvbnG9ngXT+khFual5EJjVOp6fDAPSdEd8c0ljN0iwPdyC7hwbCK57VfIklzQJIl8tz+fSqjedazX1Ss+AksqEnmiRNU0mubyZ6fhcfBIEh/RIzVzHbqVQp2hK31GIiIwPkEmEhqEualrt31gjDmquBft+Gf4yM= ; Message-ID: <20060403160125.4433.qmail@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:01:25 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604030851v23efd2c8j5f017d7903dc31a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2145144356-1144080085=:1935" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <4bopz.A.YaC.XbUMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:01:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-2145144356-1144080085=:1935 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit how about an interactive dvd where you have to solve puzzels to hear the"hidden"trax? that way only the smart folks can hear the forbidden fruit!!!lol suckers, scary visionary. Todd Pafford wrote: My suggestion for hiding tracks on a CD? Don't. Let me just chime in on the side against hidden tracks. I love the tracks, but I hate the fact that they're hidden. Call 'em bonus tracks and slap them on at the end. Don't make us muck about with silence at the end of an album or a track that I have to rewind to before track 1. If you don't want us to hear it, don't put it on the disc. If you do want us to hear it, put it there and let us access it. Hidden tracks were cool & clever fifteen years ago. Now, I just want to listen to the music. Todd, feeling like a curmudgeon this morning. :) On 4/3/06, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: > I have an autechre ep with a "pre-track" on it. If I recall correctly > you need to press play first, let it play for a second, and THEN rewind > it. Also IIRC you can do this with CD architect, but I think you have to > turn off some settings regarding red book compliance ;) > > Cheers, > Andreas > > jj 179 wrote: > > I thought if anybody would have some good ideas, it'd be you guys, so... > > > > What are your suggestions on the best way to put a hidden track on an > > audio cd these days? > > --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-2145144356-1144080085=:1935 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
how about an interactive dvd where you have to solve puzzels to hear the"hidden"trax?
that way only the smart folks can hear the forbidden fruit!!!lol
                                                      suckers,
                                                                  scary visionary.

Todd Pafford <calenlas@gmail.com> wrote:
My suggestion for hiding tracks on a CD? Don't.

Let me just chime in on the side against hidden tracks. I love the
tracks, but I hate the fact that they're hidden. Call 'em bonus
tracks and slap them on at the end. Don't make us muck about with
silence at the end of an album or a track that I have to rewind to
before track 1. If you don't want us to hear it, don't put it on the
disc. If you do want us to hear it, put it there and let us access
it. Hidden tracks were cool & clever fifteen years ago. Now, I just
want to listen to the music.

Todd, feeling like a curmudgeon this morning. :)

On 4/3/06, Andreas Wetterberg wrote:
> I have an autechre ep with a "pre-track" on it. If I recall correctly
> you need to press play first, let it play for a second, and THEN rewind
> it. Also IIRC you can do this with CD architect, but I think you have to
> turn off some settings regarding red book compliance ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Andreas
>
> jj 179 wrote:
> > I thought if anybody would have some good ideas, it'd be you guys, so...
> >
> > What are your suggestions on the best way to put a hidden track on an
> > audio cd these days?
> >


Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-2145144356-1144080085=:1935-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 16:05:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F7643BF66; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3nki@modaldub.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: <44314558.8010809@swyatt.com> References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <64b81a780604030825p61415d68wc4a167128f3ae8d6@mail.gmail.com> <44314558.8010809@swyatt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:05:54 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - space.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - modaldub.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:05:53 +0000 (UTC) well, i guess the premise in the quote i originally included was that the more establishment music is the more conservative in form. that is, the most widely accepted form of music, or way of organizing noise. to use the term chords is to buy into the system at some level. so if a person believes that a certain government is fascist, for example, popular music could be seen as reinforcing this. music which most people don't even consider music could be seen as the most radical as it is defying the dominant value-system, whose ultimate purpose is of course control. a much broader system of control than "left wing" or "communist" labels imply. an interesting topic, and the history of sound use in the original article i thought also. of course everyone can read it or not, and think what they will. as stimulation for thought it seemed something people concerned with a somewhat off-mainstream way of making music might appreciate. -3nki On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Stuart Wyatt wrote: > ...So could someone please tell me which chords are left wing, and > which chords are right wing? And are there any cadences that have > true communist beliefs? > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 16:09:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6807F3BF6A; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9033@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:08:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C65738.E83CC680" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:09:58 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C65738.E83CC680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>and the wonderful Boss RPS-10....<< the half-rack pitch shifter? I can't remember if it was this or the similar RPD-10 (a panning delay) that, if you turned it around, had a mysterious "hold" footswitch socket in the back. which ever one it was, I have it somewhere, & have modified it to run a bit slower/grungier. I gigged it a couple of times before we got the second jam-man, & the frozen audio was glitch-tastic. must dig the bugger out again & see if it still wants to play. duncan/r.m.i. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. 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>>and the wonderful Boss RPS-10....<<

the half-rack pitch shifter? I can't remember if it was t= his or the similar RPD-10 (a panning delay) that, if you turned it around, = had a mysterious "hold" footswitch socket in the back. which ever= one it was, I have it somewhere, & have modified it to run a bit slowe= r/grungier. I gigged it a couple of times before we got the second jam-man,= & the frozen audio was glitch-tastic.

must dig the bugger out again & see if it still wants= to play.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C65738.E83CC680-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 16:15:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E7433BF66; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:16:41 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: Hidden tracks on cd? In-reply-to: <64b81a780604030851v23efd2c8j5f017d7903dc31a1@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <013f01c65739$fe2640b0$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:15:13 +0000 (UTC) I have to agree with Todd. Hidden tracks will make your CD less compatible with some players (probably a bigger problem in the past than now, but who can be sure?) The only reason that I would even consider using them would be ro make an "enhanced CD" with video on it (and even so, if you must have video it might well be better to use a printed link on your cover or to just make a DVD). As usual, YMMV. Best wishes, Warren Sirota Come hear *The Sandbox* at The Monkey in NYC, April 23rd, 8PM - details at www.warrensirota.com/sandbox > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Pafford [mailto:calenlas@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:51 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? > > > My suggestion for hiding tracks on a CD? Don't. > > Let me just chime in on the side against hidden tracks. I > love the tracks, but I hate the fact that they're hidden. > Call 'em bonus tracks and slap them on at the end. Don't > make us muck about with silence at the end of an album or a > track that I have to rewind to before track 1. If you don't > want us to hear it, don't put it on the disc. If you do want > us to hear it, put it there and let us access it. Hidden > tracks were cool & clever fifteen years ago. Now, I just > want to listen to the music. > > Todd, feeling like a curmudgeon this morning. :) > > On 4/3/06, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: > > I have an autechre ep with a "pre-track" on it. If I recall > correctly > > you need to press play first, let it play for a second, and THEN > > rewind it. Also IIRC you can do this with CD architect, but I think > > you have to turn off some settings regarding red book compliance ;) > > > > Cheers, > > Andreas > > > > jj 179 wrote: > > > I thought if anybody would have some good ideas, it'd be > you guys, > > > so... > > > > > > What are your suggestions on the best way to put a hidden > track on > > > an audio cd these days? > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 16:17:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DB323BF6E; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=v6QCmNrAFn5/jFU1IzqABHHpFTj+tCVhXz0gRduz/c8NiYU9wd30aSCn3achbrLwEgiNOTKMVW0qJ3Imb1XebmuzFd/d9jcH6gFCYxKNEY1b9Jfop6+0oGbe/7qRAFdZB7BPfB86nlRQbiCrsPdvV7PdkfZOfSdVDeK8+85VCTM= ; Message-ID: <20060403161714.20121.qmail@web26206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:17:14 +0200 (CEST) From: rune fagereng Subject: Vedr. Re: ARVE HENRIKSON To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5E1E85B2-74E5-4086-8DD2-F16C67D48917@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-865741136-1144081034=:15944" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:17:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-865741136-1144081034=:15944 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ! I saw the "electra-show " at Cosmopolite in Oslo. Live it was greate ! Havent got the cd jet. Even my girlfriend had a god time !! Both Eivind Aarset (producer) and Henriksen plays on Dhafers last cd http://www.dhaferyoussef.com/music/divine_text.htm Rune F Per Boysen skrev: On 3 apr 2006, at 13.33, Fabio Anile wrote: > > I'm sure there is someone on this list, knowing this guy.... Yes, I think he is great! Some months ago a bought Arild Andersen's album "Electra" (ECM 2005) where Arve plays excellent trumpet in the style you described. I haven't heard his own albums, but now I will definitely check them out. Thank you for the recommendation! BTW, Electra is another a recommendable album. Recorded in Athens with some vocals sung in ancient Greek, a language that sounds like Finnish to my ears (i.e. don't understand a word but lots of sharp sounds produced at the outer front part of the moth - very different from Danish or American English). Norwegian guitarist Eivind Aarset was also in the Athens ensemble, fretlessly howling as usual. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast? id=128679560&s=143456 --0-865741136-1144081034=:15944 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi !
 
I saw the "electra-show " at Cosmopolite in Oslo. Live it was greate ! Havent got the cd jet. Even my girlfriend had a god time !!
 
 
Rune F

Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> skrev:
On 3 apr 2006, at 13.33, Fabio Anile wrote:
>
> I'm sure there is someone on this list, knowing this guy....

Yes, I think he is great! Some months ago a bought Arild Andersen's
album "Electra" (ECM 2005) where Arve plays excellent trumpet in the
style you described. I haven't heard his own albums, but now I will
definitely check them out. Thank you for the recommendation!

BTW, Electra is another a recommendable album. Recorded in Athens
with some vocals sung in ancient Greek, a language that sounds like
Finnish to my ears (i.e. don't understand a word but lots of sharp
sounds produced at the outer front part of the moth - very different
from Danish or American English). Norwegian guitarist Eivind Aarset
was also in the Athens ensemble, fretlessly howling as usual.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?
id=128679560&s=143456





--0-865741136-1144081034=:15944-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 16:27:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F9EB3BF6E; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9034@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: awetterberg@post.cybercity.dk, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Hidden tracks on cd? Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:26:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6573B.565277D0" Resent-Message-ID: <9_iSaD.A.7KD.qzUMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:27:23 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6573B.565277D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>Also IIRC you can do this with CD architect, but I think you have to turn off some settings regarding red book compliance ;)<< I have cd architect at home- not able to try this right now..... sony have discontinued cd arch, which is a pain because vegas can't pull subcodes & indices off of an existing disc. anyway. vegas 5 can make discs with audio before the first marker & audio after the last end-of-track marker. it bitches about some damn red book but it will let you do it. however, the write-drive is itself likely to complain about writing something between the lead-in & the first marker. seems to be quite happy about the chunk of audio after the last marker though. I had to master a disc with regular cd audio & a pdf on it last year. after days & days of trying different things & reading the "rules" on the interweb, I eventually did it on an old version of adaptec's toast, running on a g4 powerbook. this is another one of those tasks where you have to do everything in the right order or mess up a load of tweeters somewhere...... d. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated, nor does this message form any part of any contract unless so stated. MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct and appropriate use of MTV communication equipment. MTV Networks Europe *************************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6573B.565277D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Hidden tracks on cd?

>>Also IIRC you can do this with CD architect, but = I think you have to
turn off some settings regarding red book compliance ;)&= lt;<

I have cd architect at home- not able to try this right n= ow..... sony have discontinued cd arch, which is a pain because vegas can't= pull subcodes & indices off of an existing disc.

anyway.
vegas 5 can make discs with audio before the first marke= r & audio after the last end-of-track marker. it bitches about some dam= n red book but it will let you do it. however, the write-drive is itself li= kely to complain about writing something between the lead-in & the firs= t marker. seems to be quite happy about the chunk of audio after the last m= arker though.

I had to master a disc with regular cd audio & a pdf = on it last year. after days & days of trying different things & rea= ding the "rules" on the interweb, I eventually did it on an old v= ersion of adaptec's toast, running on a g4 powerbook. this is another one o= f those tasks where you have to do everything in the right order or mess up= a load of tweeters somewhere......

d.



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------_=_NextPart_001_01C6573B.565277D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 16:29:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75ABE3BF72; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:29:30 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C03B61E@keel.sailpoint.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Thread-Index: AcZXNwBi4EZoWVRwSfOSivyJMBFIxwABEVIw From: "jeff larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:29:34 +0000 (UTC) > From: Stuart Wyatt [mailto:loopersdelight@swyatt.com]=20 >=20 > ...So could someone please tell me which chords are left=20 > wing, and which chords are right wing? C Major. A God-fearing right-thinking chord if there ever was one. Bbdim7#13? As pink as they come. Keep your children away from it. It needs to have some sense slapped into it by C Major. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 16:55:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5ED43BF61; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ixXdZv5p7/NBOymgKG980Wz8sHU/Cs4IYyS+mA2n3rCarwHrBUz0aeGShMqM4ft+LmHoQxL5SORRG21qrCZQMqFa1IsrFRHdrdN+nlQ5zMjoy8Syz6YNysN0zjbxIJTzqaoJVRb9oy/rWxFryBnXw/GkB4vI3BjpPDvP1tX1BKs= ; Message-ID: <20060403165537.11412.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2013943314-1144083337=:11032" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:55:39 +0000 (UTC) --0-2013943314-1144083337=:11032 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit what if this non lryical song has a title?maybe "the 19th of april" or"butterfly tree"how about "the poison bushes"?if a listener were familiar with the topic of an instrumental song the the music itself would become very politcal...a tranquil melody suddenly overpowered by a rumbling chaotic drum frenzy could very well symbolize something politcal...maybe?i would like to think my non lyrical music sends the vibe that you want to roll one and relax and thats my whole politcal message in a bottle... harmony & dischord, scary visionary. wrote: I'd pretty much say that non lyrical music has no intrinsic political qualities. I dare you to gleen a message from any of my music. Don't bother, there isn't one. I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I am sure that this list is not the place for it. There are plenty of places on the net for it. Go there and type. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-2013943314-1144083337=:11032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
what if this non lryical song has a title?maybe "the 19th of april" or"butterfly tree"how  about "the poison bushes"?if a listener were familiar with the topic of an instrumental song the the music itself would become very politcal...a tranquil melody suddenly overpowered by a rumbling chaotic drum frenzy could very well symbolize something politcal...maybe?i would like to think my non lyrical music sends the vibe that you want to roll one and relax and thats my whole politcal message in a bottle...
                                                  harmony & dischord,
                                                                            scary visionary.
<zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'd pretty much say that non lyrical music has no
intrinsic political qualities. I dare you to gleen a
message from any of my music. Don't bother, there
isn't one.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I am sure
that this list is not the place for it. There are
plenty of places on the net for it. Go there and
type.

Mark

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Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-2013943314-1144083337=:11032-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:10:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71E573BF60; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: 2 Questions Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:09:58 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <003401c65741$76345630$0601a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcZXMRmIu1gl+IQKRUaEcoo+V7kQFgADvT3Q Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Matthew, regarding question #1: a) if your noise problem is greatly reduced when using the repeater with your computer speakers in comparison to your guitar amp, I'd suggest that the repeater/guitar amp combination is the problem, not the repeater per se. The noise mod might help you to get rid of some of that noise (i.e. the noise you hear when using the computer speakers), but not of everything. For your home listening pleasure, I don't see any reason why working with your stereo receiver would hurt. If the receiver has an S/PDIF input, you might even connect your Repeater to that (and avoid noise from its analogue output stages). b) would it be possible (from the way your playing/sound editing works) to put the GT6-B before the Repeater, or would you be able to adapt to using it this way? There would be two advantages: first, you wouldn't have to use the Repeater's instrument input, which is one of its biggest noise sources. Plus, any condition of your signal affecting the dynamics (for bass players: typically compression) would happen before the repeater, so the compressor would not "pull up" the repeater's input noise at it is currently. If you can't use the GT6-B before the Repeater (e.g. because you use it to effect the recorded loops all the time), then using a small DI to connect your bass to the rear input of the Repeater will help a little. Rainer > #1- I am mainly a Repeater user. I am currently running a > Roland RS-5 or my bass into the Repeater, then on the FX loop > of the Repeater is a Boss GT6-B. Now, with this set up I > can't use my amp (GK Backline 250 into an Ampeg 2x10) > without horrible noise issues. I know at least some of this > is due to the Repeater's inherent noise problem, which I will > resolve in due time with the mod offered by AudioPros. In the > meantime, though, I have the output of the Repeater hooked to > a small set of computer speakers, which seem to output the > loops without the same amount of background noise- but of > course, being computer speakers, they don't reproduce bass or > any kind of drum very well. So essentially, I am just looking > for *the best way to monitor my Repeater's output at home in > my music room*. I am open to all options people think might > work- would a small PA do the trick? a power amp & set of > monitors? A home stereo receiver & speakers ( I hooked up the > Repeater tomy stereo & it sounded great)? Any help would be > greatly appreciated, I'm going deaf from working on > headphones constantly. : ) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:11:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 091663BF4B; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007c01c65741$a02aad40$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <443139E1.4050205@post.cybercity.dk> <64b81a780604030851v23efd2c8j5f017d7903dc31a1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:08:41 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:11:28 +0000 (UTC) I tend to agree. I lost patience with an Eno disk that had it - was it "Nerve Net"? - and the fact that I've let it fall off the edge of my memory tells you that if you want your piece to be remembered, don't 'hide' it. From: "Todd Pafford" > My suggestion for hiding tracks on a CD? Don't. > > Let me just chime in on the side against hidden tracks. I love the > tracks, but I hate the fact that they're hidden. Call 'em bonus > tracks and slap them on at the end. Don't make us muck about with > silence at the end of an album or a track that I have to rewind to > before track 1. If you don't want us to hear it, don't put it on the > disc. If you do want us to hear it, put it there and let us access > it. Hidden tracks were cool & clever fifteen years ago. Now, I just > want to listen to the music. > > Todd, feeling like a curmudgeon this morning. :) > > On 4/3/06, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: >> I have an autechre ep with a "pre-track" on it. If I recall correctly >> you need to press play first, let it play for a second, and THEN rewind >> it. Also IIRC you can do this with CD architect, but I think you have to >> turn off some settings regarding red book compliance ;) >> >> Cheers, >> Andreas >> >> jj 179 wrote: >> > I thought if anybody would have some good ideas, it'd be you guys, >> > so... >> > >> > What are your suggestions on the best way to put a hidden track on an >> > audio cd these days? >> > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:11:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A63363BF6E; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007d01c65741$a116baf0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <64b81a780604030825p61415d68wc4a167128f3ae8d6@mail.gmail.com> <44314558.8010809@swyatt.com> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:09:26 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:11:28 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Wyatt" To: Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:55 PM Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > ...So could someone please tell me which chords are left wing, and which > chords are right wing? And are there any cadences that have true > communist beliefs? > > Nah, but the Left is pretty boring these days. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:26:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 998B93BF52; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1949.128.193.37.212.1144085193.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <007d01c65741$a116baf0$0207a8c0@eluk1> References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <64b81a780604030825p61415d68wc4a167128f3ae8d6@mail.gmail.com> <44314558.8010809@swyatt.com> <007d01c65741$a116baf0$0207a8c0@eluk1> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:26:35 +0000 (UTC) > From: "Stuart Wyatt" > ...So could someone please tell me which chords are left wing, and which > chords are right wing? And are there any cadences that have true > communist beliefs? I think that suspended chords are perverse. Neither major nor minor? It's unnatural! Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:27:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84D013BF5D; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F Subject: Re: 2 Questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:27:41 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/03/2006 01:28:10 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 682F848A1WK337823-02-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the info......... Ideally, while my home stereo does work- my music room is seperate from the living room, where the stereo is house, so I'm looking for a seperate system. I might buy a cheap home stereo if that is the best option, but I have got to believe there is a better amplification system for the Repeater than a home stereo. That wil remain an aoption though, for sure. I've often though about trying the digital output on the Repeater, but have never done it- maybe I will give it a whirl tonight. As far as the GT6-B, for now, I need to have it stay on the FX loops because as you suspected, I use it a lot to affect the recorded loops- once I have a MoFx this will probably change, but for now I need it where it is. But that brings me to another question- currently, I AM already running the main instrument (regardless of whether it is the synth or my bass) into the back panel input on the Repeater, should I be running it into the instrument input? Any suggestions on a cheap DI box that will work? And if I *do* put a DI box between the instrument & Repeater, will I need to turn it off when playing synth instead of bass? "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Straschill" cc: Subject: 2 Questions 04/03/2006 01:09 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight Matthew, regarding question #1: a) if your noise problem is greatly reduced when using the repeater with your computer speakers in comparison to your guitar amp, I'd suggest that the repeater/guitar amp combination is the problem, not the repeater per se. The noise mod might help you to get rid of some of that noise (i.e. the noise you hear when using the computer speakers), but not of everything. For your home listening pleasure, I don't see any reason why working with your stereo receiver would hurt. If the receiver has an S/PDIF input, you might even connect your Repeater to that (and avoid noise from its analogue output stages). b) would it be possible (from the way your playing/sound editing works) to put the GT6-B before the Repeater, or would you be able to adapt to using it this way? There would be two advantages: first, you wouldn't have to use the Repeater's instrument input, which is one of its biggest noise sources. Plus, any condition of your signal affecting the dynamics (for bass players: typically compression) would happen before the repeater, so the compressor would not "pull up" the repeater's input noise at it is currently. If you can't use the GT6-B before the Repeater (e.g. because you use it to effect the recorded loops all the time), then using a small DI to connect your bass to the rear input of the Repeater will help a little. Rainer > #1- I am mainly a Repeater user. I am currently running a > Roland RS-5 or my bass into the Repeater, then on the FX loop > of the Repeater is a Boss GT6-B. Now, with this set up I > can't use my amp (GK Backline 250 into an Ampeg 2x10) > without horrible noise issues. I know at least some of this > is due to the Repeater's inherent noise problem, which I will > resolve in due time with the mod offered by AudioPros. In the > meantime, though, I have the output of the Repeater hooked to > a small set of computer speakers, which seem to output the > loops without the same amount of background noise- but of > course, being computer speakers, they don't reproduce bass or > any kind of drum very well. So essentially, I am just looking > for *the best way to monitor my Repeater's output at home in > my music room*. I am open to all options people think might > work- would a small PA do the trick? a power amp & set of > monitors? A home stereo receiver & speakers ( I hooked up the > Repeater tomy stereo & it sounded great)? Any help would be > greatly appreciated, I'm going deaf from working on > headphones constantly. : ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:35:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D0E83BF61; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <25152889.1144085723930.JavaMail.root@web11> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:35:23 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Cc: Stephen Goodman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, the "left" is definitely not amusing as the "right". Shotgun's anyone? -- Paul Richards ---- Stephen Goodman wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Wyatt" > To: > Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:55 PM > Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > > > > ...So could someone please tell me which chords are left wing, and which > > chords are right wing? And are there any cadences that have true > > communist beliefs? > > > > > > Nah, but the Left is pretty boring these days. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:37:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DD2E3BF64; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00dc01c65745$4c40c170$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <25152889.1144085723930.JavaMail.root@web11> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:37:35 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:37:43 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "Stephen Goodman" Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 18:35 PM Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > Yeah, the "left" is definitely not amusing as the "right". Shotgun's > anyone? Nah, some folks' whining is boring enough. > > -- > Paul Richards > > ---- Stephen Goodman wrote: >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stuart Wyatt" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 16:55 PM >> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) >> >> >> > ...So could someone please tell me which chords are left wing, and >> > which >> > chords are right wing? And are there any cadences that have true >> > communist beliefs? >> > >> > >> >> Nah, but the Left is pretty boring these days. >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:41:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FF413BF61; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hnXJ7XPKv917RDAmsdoGWi+zizQKG7R13tljsOsSujwcsuRZMFJpGz9qu93PUBPHz2y5YwKcQ2xnuC8gFfA9sRaisil+9Oa655253B1mXaSRmg22v0UML22mYdJYmt9IyxHzoX8w2A2wsUDGATYUqd1usod2rV7mgBB7NxyfrBU= Message-ID: <64b81a780604031041q19aa5fa5p7eb16dfce33bd0db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:41:12 -0500 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? In-Reply-To: <013f01c65739$fe2640b0$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <64b81a780604030851v23efd2c8j5f017d7903dc31a1@mail.gmail.com> <013f01c65739$fe2640b0$0202a8c0@Lightning> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I like "enhanced CDs". The consumer is gets a worthwhile feature that way. And Daniel's idea regarding a puzzle to unlock the material is also fun. Primus delivered nicely this way on their Rhinoplasty album. In addition to other enhanced material there was a video (claymation by Les Claypool) of Primus doing "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" that could be unlocked with a password from their website. Great content and a good way to gain web traffic. Regarding compatability, any time you deviate from the Red Book standard you're asking for problems. All CD players are not created equal, then figure in PCs & DVD players and the unknowns pile up. The goal is to get the music heard, not make the listener jump through hoops; they just won't bother. Todd On 4/3/06, Warren Sirota wrote: > I have to agree with Todd. Hidden tracks will make your CD less compatibl= e > with some players (probably a bigger problem in the past than now, but wh= o > can be sure?) The only reason that I would even consider using them would= be > ro make an "enhanced CD" with video on it (and even so, if you must have > video it might well be better to use a printed link on your cover or to j= ust > make a DVD). > > As usual, YMMV. > > Best wishes, > Warren Sirota > > Come hear *The Sandbox* at The Monkey in NYC, April 23rd, 8PM - details = at > www.warrensirota.com/sandbox > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:50:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3321F3BF5A; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RzglhKdimq3QA/2W/2z09QxqKVG40HkbJ8pSQhs/6AzD/OAzxH3mEPXyxK1NO/GXjaAqF9WwP5S/D2ciTd2doZ8zgDcxO7Z0j3NhmxAABEsfmGWiSC9694Kr0+H1mTXQNfTGT77tUBze6JtDercfq3LqqkOwp7cwQ1dSEYghlu0= ; Message-ID: <20060403175052.2236.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:50:52 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: 2 Questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <2Si0e.A.fkG.9BWMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Save your money for the Repeater's noise mod, it's not going to help your problem. Your problem stems from the fact that the Repeater is a line level device. You are plugging it into amps that have preamps built in to deal with instrument level signals. Your probably overdriving your guitar amp's preamp stage and surely tring to boost a signal that doesn't need boosting. I know it's a shame that Electrix didn't design the Repeater to be more guitar friendly, but that's the way it is. I've found the only really good way to use it is to have it in a line level effects loop of a guitar amp or mixer and then into some sort of amp/monitor system. I do it two ways. In and out of the stereo line level effects loop of my Johnson guitar amp (not made any longer) or out of my Soundcraft board's effects out and back into 2 of it's inputs. The main out of the mixer goes into a pair of powered Mackie Studio monitors. The M-Audio powered monitors are pretty damn good and will cost you about the price of a decent stereo receiver and I think do a better job for you. I know that Electrix was recommending a line to instrument level converter... it was in a FAQ somewhere on their site. This might be another way to go. --- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Thanks for the info......... > > Ideally, while my home stereo does work- my music > room is seperate from the > living room, where the stereo is house, so I'm > looking for a seperate > system. I might buy a cheap home stereo if that is > the best option, but I > have got to believe there is a better amplification > system for the Repeater > than a home stereo. That wil remain an aoption > though, for sure. I've often > though about trying the digital output on the > Repeater, but have never done > it- maybe I will give it a whirl tonight. > > As far as the GT6-B, for now, I need to have it stay > on the FX loops > because as you suspected, I use it a lot to affect > the recorded loops- once > I have a MoFx this will probably change, but for now > I need it where it is. > But that brings me to another question- currently, I > AM already running the > main instrument (regardless of whether it is the > synth or my bass) into the > back panel input on the Repeater, should I be > running it into the > instrument input? Any suggestions on a cheap DI box > that will work? And if > I *do* put a DI box between the instrument & > Repeater, will I need to turn > it off when playing synth instead of bass? > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Straschill" cc: > > > > Subject: 2 Questions > > 04/03/2006 01:09 PM > > > Please respond to > > > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew, > > regarding question #1: > a) if your noise problem is greatly reduced when > using the repeater with > your computer speakers in comparison to your guitar > amp, I'd suggest that > the repeater/guitar amp combination is the problem, > not the repeater per > se. > The noise mod might help you to get rid of some of > that noise (i.e. the > noise you hear when using the computer speakers), > but not of everything. > For > your home listening pleasure, I don't see any reason > why working with your > stereo receiver would hurt. If the receiver has an > S/PDIF input, you might > even connect your Repeater to that (and avoid noise > from its analogue > output > stages). > > b) would it be possible (from the way your > playing/sound editing works) to > put the GT6-B before the Repeater, or would you be > able to adapt to using > it > this way? There would be two advantages: first, you > wouldn't have to use > the > Repeater's instrument input, which is one of its > biggest noise sources. > Plus, any condition of your signal affecting the > dynamics (for bass > players: > typically compression) would happen before the > repeater, so the compressor > would not "pull up" the repeater's input noise at it > is currently. > If you can't use the GT6-B before the Repeater (e.g. > because you use it to > effect the recorded loops all the time), then using > a small DI to connect > your bass to the rear input of the Repeater will > help a little. > > Rainer > > > #1- I am mainly a Repeater user. I am currently > running a > > Roland RS-5 or my bass into the Repeater, then on > the FX loop > > of the Repeater is a Boss GT6-B. Now, with this > set up I > > can't use my amp (GK Backline 250 into an Ampeg > 2x10) > > without horrible noise issues. I know at least > some of this > > is due to the Repeater's inherent noise problem, > which I will > > resolve in due time with the mod offered by > AudioPros. In the > > meantime, though, I have the output of the > Repeater hooked to > > a small set of computer speakers, which seem to > output the > > loops without the same amount of background noise- > but of > > course, being computer speakers, they don't > reproduce bass or > > any kind of drum very well. So essentially, I am > just looking > > for *the best way to monitor my Repeater's output > at home in > > my music room*. I am open to all options people > think might > > work- would a small PA do the trick? a power amp & > set of > > monitors? A home stereo receiver & speakers ( I > hooked up the > > Repeater tomy stereo & it sounded great)? Any help > would be > > greatly appreciated, I'm going deaf from working > on > > headphones constantly. : ) > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) > is intended for the use > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed > and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , > confidential and exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, > you are notified that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this > communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail > message immediately. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 17:58:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12B233BF6B; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9036@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Hidden tracks on cd? 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C65748.11A86BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" All CD players are not created equal, then figure in PCs & DVD players and the unknowns pile up<< the cd I just made, with audio after the last end-of-track marker, crashed the windows cd player. it's more trouble than it's worth. does anyone know of a cd authoring tool that lets you enter cd-text? cd-architect, oddly, doesn't. in fact, the only time I've done it was using a denon standalone cd-recorder. d. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C65748.11A86BF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 18:03:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B63B73BF6A; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F Subject: Re: 2 Questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:03:22 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/03/2006 02:03:50 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 682FBCD11WK354760-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:03:37 +0000 (UTC) I did come across the reccomended -12db attenuator "solution" on Electrix's website, but couldn't find one anywhere, and I don't know how to solder, so building one is out. I did place an old multi-effects unit on Bypass between the Repeater & amp to try to level out the signal, but it was not very effective. I've got 2 mixers at home- a Nady 4 chanel mini mixer (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku=630433), and a Behringer UB1002 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku=631237). Any suggestions on how exactly to incorporate those into the rig? Could I run Repeater>one of those mixers>monitors & get a decent sound out of that set up? I think that would be ideal if it works.......any suggestions on monitors? I know you said M-Audio, any particular model? Thanks again! "mark sottilaro" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 2 Questions 04/03/2006 01:50 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight Save your money for the Repeater's noise mod, it's not going to help your problem. Your problem stems from the fact that the Repeater is a line level device. You are plugging it into amps that have preamps built in to deal with instrument level signals. Your probably overdriving your guitar amp's preamp stage and surely tring to boost a signal that doesn't need boosting. I know it's a shame that Electrix didn't design the Repeater to be more guitar friendly, but that's the way it is. I've found the only really good way to use it is to have it in a line level effects loop of a guitar amp or mixer and then into some sort of amp/monitor system. I do it two ways. In and out of the stereo line level effects loop of my Johnson guitar amp (not made any longer) or out of my Soundcraft board's effects out and back into 2 of it's inputs. The main out of the mixer goes into a pair of powered Mackie Studio monitors. The M-Audio powered monitors are pretty damn good and will cost you about the price of a decent stereo receiver and I think do a better job for you. I know that Electrix was recommending a line to instrument level converter... it was in a FAQ somewhere on their site. This might be another way to go. --- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Thanks for the info......... > > Ideally, while my home stereo does work- my music > room is seperate from the > living room, where the stereo is house, so I'm > looking for a seperate > system. I might buy a cheap home stereo if that is > the best option, but I > have got to believe there is a better amplification > system for the Repeater > than a home stereo. That wil remain an aoption > though, for sure. I've often > though about trying the digital output on the > Repeater, but have never done > it- maybe I will give it a whirl tonight. > > As far as the GT6-B, for now, I need to have it stay > on the FX loops > because as you suspected, I use it a lot to affect > the recorded loops- once > I have a MoFx this will probably change, but for now > I need it where it is. > But that brings me to another question- currently, I > AM already running the > main instrument (regardless of whether it is the > synth or my bass) into the > back panel input on the Repeater, should I be > running it into the > instrument input? Any suggestions on a cheap DI box > that will work? And if > I *do* put a DI box between the instrument & > Repeater, will I need to turn > it off when playing synth instead of bass? > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Straschill" cc: > > > > Subject: 2 Questions > > 04/03/2006 01:09 PM > > > Please respond to > > > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew, > > regarding question #1: > a) if your noise problem is greatly reduced when > using the repeater with > your computer speakers in comparison to your guitar > amp, I'd suggest that > the repeater/guitar amp combination is the problem, > not the repeater per > se. > The noise mod might help you to get rid of some of > that noise (i.e. the > noise you hear when using the computer speakers), > but not of everything. > For > your home listening pleasure, I don't see any reason > why working with your > stereo receiver would hurt. If the receiver has an > S/PDIF input, you might > even connect your Repeater to that (and avoid noise > from its analogue > output > stages). > > b) would it be possible (from the way your > playing/sound editing works) to > put the GT6-B before the Repeater, or would you be > able to adapt to using > it > this way? There would be two advantages: first, you > wouldn't have to use > the > Repeater's instrument input, which is one of its > biggest noise sources. > Plus, any condition of your signal affecting the > dynamics (for bass > players: > typically compression) would happen before the > repeater, so the compressor > would not "pull up" the repeater's input noise at it > is currently. > If you can't use the GT6-B before the Repeater (e.g. > because you use it to > effect the recorded loops all the time), then using > a small DI to connect > your bass to the rear input of the Repeater will > help a little. > > Rainer > > > #1- I am mainly a Repeater user. I am currently > running a > > Roland RS-5 or my bass into the Repeater, then on > the FX loop > > of the Repeater is a Boss GT6-B. Now, with this > set up I > > can't use my amp (GK Backline 250 into an Ampeg > 2x10) > > without horrible noise issues. I know at least > some of this > > is due to the Repeater's inherent noise problem, > which I will > > resolve in due time with the mod offered by > AudioPros. In the > > meantime, though, I have the output of the > Repeater hooked to > > a small set of computer speakers, which seem to > output the > > loops without the same amount of background noise- > but of > > course, being computer speakers, they don't > reproduce bass or > > any kind of drum very well. So essentially, I am > just looking > > for *the best way to monitor my Repeater's output > at home in > > my music room*. I am open to all options people > think might > > work- would a small PA do the trick? a power amp & > set of > > monitors? A home stereo receiver & speakers ( I > hooked up the > > Repeater tomy stereo & it sounded great)? Any help > would be > > greatly appreciated, I'm going deaf from working > on > > headphones constantly. : ) > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) > is intended for the use > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed > and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , > confidential and exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, > you are notified that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this > communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail > message immediately. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 18:03:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 407F63BF77; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: 2 Questions Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 20:03:40 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <004201c65748$f0d91c20$0601a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcZXQ/FVDIbzCPLAS56sVvh2iCmKVgAAh7bQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:03:45 +0000 (UTC) again, question one: how much are you willing to spend? There's a wide range of options all = the way in between multimedia speakers for =E2=82=AC10 per pair up to = active studio mains for more than you most probably can afford ;). If = your price range is below =E2=82=AC30, you probably won't get anything = better (and probably only worse) than your current speakers. For the = price range 30-100, I'd say you might get something which works ok, but = I couldn't recommend anything specific. The =E2=82=AC100-=E2=82=AC200 = range has some decent choices from the computer/multimedia world, if you = can live with a 2.1 (2 sattelites+subwoofer) setup - I'd recommend = Lautsprecher Teufel (www.teufel.de). =E2=82=AC200-300, you could give = Behringer's active "Truth" monitors a listen. question two: Mark is of course right, not only will you be lacking proper impedance, = but also proper level. So as he suggested, you'd need an instrument = preamp/line driver kind of thing. Anything with a high impedance on the = input and a low impedance on the output and some gain >1. Like your = GT-6B. And also the idea to put the repeater in the amp's effects loop = (if available) would work. Rainer > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com [mailto:matthew.quinn@sunlife.com]=20 > Gesendet: Montag, 3. April 2006 19:28 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: 2 Questions >=20 > Thanks for the info......... >=20 > Ideally, while my home stereo does work- my music room is=20 > seperate from the living room, where the stereo is house, so=20 > I'm looking for a seperate system. I might buy a cheap home=20 > stereo if that is the best option, but I have got to believe=20 > there is a better amplification system for the Repeater than=20 > a home stereo. That wil remain an aoption though, for sure.=20 > I've often though about trying the digital output on the=20 > Repeater, but have never done > it- maybe I will give it a whirl tonight. >=20 > As far as the GT6-B, for now, I need to have it stay on the=20 > FX loops because as you suspected, I use it a lot to affect=20 > the recorded loops- once I have a MoFx this will probably=20 > change, but for now I need it where it is. > But that brings me to another question- currently, I AM=20 > already running the main instrument (regardless of whether it=20 > is the synth or my bass) into the back panel input on the=20 > Repeater, should I be running it into the instrument input?=20 > Any suggestions on a cheap DI box that will work? And if I=20 > *do* put a DI box between the instrument & Repeater, will I=20 > need to turn it off when playing synth instead of bass? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar To:=20 > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =20 > =20 > Straschill" cc: =20 > =20 > =20 > Subject: 2=20 > Questions =20 > =20 > 04/03/2006 01:09 PM =20 > =20 > =20 > Please respond to =20 > =20 > =20 > Loopers-Delight =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Matthew, >=20 > regarding question #1: > a) if your noise problem is greatly reduced when using the=20 > repeater with your computer speakers in comparison to your=20 > guitar amp, I'd suggest that the repeater/guitar amp=20 > combination is the problem, not the repeater per se. > The noise mod might help you to get rid of some of that noise=20 > (i.e. the noise you hear when using the computer speakers),=20 > but not of everything. > For > your home listening pleasure, I don't see any reason why=20 > working with your stereo receiver would hurt. If the receiver=20 > has an S/PDIF input, you might even connect your Repeater to=20 > that (and avoid noise from its analogue output stages). >=20 > b) would it be possible (from the way your playing/sound=20 > editing works) to put the GT6-B before the Repeater, or would=20 > you be able to adapt to using it this way? There would be two=20 > advantages: first, you wouldn't have to use the Repeater's=20 > instrument input, which is one of its biggest noise sources. > Plus, any condition of your signal affecting the dynamics (for bass > players: > typically compression) would happen before the repeater, so=20 > the compressor would not "pull up" the repeater's input noise=20 > at it is currently. > If you can't use the GT6-B before the Repeater (e.g. because=20 > you use it to effect the recorded loops all the time), then=20 > using a small DI to connect your bass to the rear input of=20 > the Repeater will help a little. >=20 > Rainer >=20 > > #1- I am mainly a Repeater user. I am currently running a=20 > Roland RS-5=20 > > or my bass into the Repeater, then on the FX loop of the=20 > Repeater is a=20 > > Boss GT6-B. Now, with this set up I can't use my amp (GK=20 > Backline 250=20 > > into an Ampeg 2x10) without horrible noise issues. I know at least=20 > > some of this is due to the Repeater's inherent noise=20 > problem, which I=20 > > will resolve in due time with the mod offered by AudioPros. In the=20 > > meantime, though, I have the output of the Repeater hooked=20 > to a small=20 > > set of computer speakers, which seem to output the loops=20 > without the=20 > > same amount of background noise- but of course, being computer=20 > > speakers, they don't reproduce bass or any kind of drum=20 > very well. So=20 > > essentially, I am just looking for *the best way to monitor my=20 > > Repeater's output at home in my music room*. I am open to=20 > all options=20 > > people think might > > work- would a small PA do the trick? a power amp & set of=20 > monitors? A=20 > > home stereo receiver & speakers ( I hooked up the Repeater=20 > tomy stereo=20 > > & it sounded great)? Any help would be greatly appreciated,=20 > I'm going=20 > > deaf from working on headphones constantly. : ) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is=20 > intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it=20 > is addressed and may contain information that is privileged,=20 > proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If=20 > you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any=20 > dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication=20 > is strictly prohibited. If you have received this=20 > communication in error, please notify the sender and erase=20 > this e-mail message immediately. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 18:04:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDF043BF74; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Donearlsto@aol.com Message-ID: <20d.14df87b4.3162bd9f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:04:15 EDT Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_20d.14df87b4.3162bd9f_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 207 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:04:19 +0000 (UTC) --part1_20d.14df87b4.3162bd9f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/3/06 1:58:53 PM, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com writes: > > All CD players are not created equal, then figure in PCs & DVD players and > the unknowns pile up<< > the cd I just made, with audio after the last end-of-track marker, crashed > the windows cd player. it's more trouble than it's worth. > does anyone know of a cd authoring tool that lets you enter cd-text? > cd-architect, oddly, doesn't. in fact, the only time I've done it was using a denon > standalone cd-recorder. > d. > Toast with Jam does this. -- Donovan Stokes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- www.donovanstokes.com --part1_20d.14df87b4.3162bd9f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/3/06 1:58:53 PM, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com writes:



All CD players are not created equal, then figure in PCs & DVD players a= nd the unknowns pile up<<
the cd I just made, with audio after the last end-of-track marker, crashed=20= the windows cd player. it's more trouble than it's worth.
does anyone know of a cd authoring tool that lets you enter cd-text? cd-arc= hitect, oddly, doesn't. in fact, the only time I've done it was using a deno= n standalone cd-recorder.
d.


Toast with Jam does this.



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 --part1_20d.14df87b4.3162bd9f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 18:08:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFB343BF75; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: 2 Questions Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 20:08:27 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <004601c65749$9be5b6f0$0601a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcZXSO6pNd6Mb8oJRxeBBvnt2MARXwAACvTQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:08:35 +0000 (UTC) > I've got 2 mixers at home- a Nady 4 chanel mini mixer > (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku= > 630433), and a Behringer UB1002 > (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku= > 631237). Any suggestions on how exactly to incorporate those > into the rig? Could I run > Repeater>one of those mixers>monitors & get a decent sound > out of that > Repeater>set > up? I think that would be ideal if it works.......any what would work is: Bass->DI->mixer in (I figure one of them has phantom power)->Repeater->monitors, or even more flexible: Bass->DI->mixer in/mixer aux send->repeater->back into mixer/mixer out->monitors. A DI with an excellent price/performance ratio is Behringer's DI-20 (one of their few devices which really sound good), which costs slightly less than the model number in pound sterling... 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Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Wow, Mobius is new for me, but the simplicity & pureness is = incredible... This is what I was looking for! Stuart, thanks a lot! ;-) Grtx, Joost! www.joost-visser.nl -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Wyatt [mailto:loopersdelight@swyatt.com]=20 Sent: maandag 3 april 2006 15:34 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: laptop vs echoplex For me, the main issue in this discussion is cost. For the price of =A3600 (around the price of one mono EDP), I've just=20 purchased a second hand laptop that has the power to emulate 16 (8=20 stereo pairs) EDP's. The same laptop can also emulate virtual=20 synths/samplers (through Ableton Live) - all syncronised beautifully. When you take into account cost of building up my virtual studio in=20 hardware form, it would cost about =A315,000 for the EDP's alone = (source:=20 Thomann.de). Another =A3250 for leads, =A3200 or so for flight cases, = =A3300=20 for an adequate mixing desk, =A31000 for a few rack effects, =A31000 for = a=20 couple of synths.... you can see where I'm getting at. In an ideal world, I would love to have a bank of EDP's or a=20 Looperlative... Hardware will always be the safest and most reliable=20 option, but for a struggling musician like myself, there is no other=20 option but to go down the laptop route. As far as reliability goes, with a bit of time and patience, it is=20 possible to set up a reliable and trustworthy laptop. Mobius, although=20 still under development, is incredibly resilient and stable. Any bugs=20 are quickly discovered and erradicated. As long as you use the laptop=20 purely as a looping device, and don't connect it to the net or install=20 lots of 'warez', I don't think that you will have many problems. I hope to be gigging soon with my new setup. A couple of years ago, I=20 would have never believed that I would be putting my faith in a laptop=20 on stage! :) ...just my 2 cents - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 18:47:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 334A23BF35; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QW7uAwMfCyuPoikRXi6Z63vQBK+c0aBU4svJ49fjDXkoMFqITOcT304rEChz3AiqlXydAk9cvqU7eBJGwIwWtHHYTBpJquQaXKzQQouMO1CyK+vPIBNUeV8/90RF0CVdw17OSyV/DSaz88guNavh8NmcJMP3FcEEnZPeTZXzOkk= Message-ID: <26ba8d120604031147l59c7e210yafb9de77794fa308@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:47:21 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? In-Reply-To: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9036@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9036@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:47:22 +0000 (UTC) It's so weird that CD-TEXT is so difficult to add into CDs. Why it wasn't a standard from the Red Book at the start is beyond me -- but once people realized it and added it, why CD-TEXT isn't automatically included in every mastering program? I have precisely one commercial CD with CD-TEXT, Jeff Beck's "You Had It Coming" (which is full of loopy material, btw -- and musically strong -- strongly recommended!) On 4/3/06, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote: > > > All CD players are not created equal, then figure in PCs & DVD players an= d > the unknowns pile up<< > > > the cd I just made, with audio after the last end-of-track marker, crashe= d > the windows cd player. it's more trouble than it's worth. > > does anyone know of a cd authoring tool that lets you enter cd-text? > cd-architect, oddly, doesn't. in fact, the only time I've done it was usi= ng > a denon standalone cd-recorder. > > > d. > > *************************************************************************= ** > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user > of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also > be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may > not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it > in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, > please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. > > It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other > checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not > affect your systems / data. Any views or opinions expressed in this > e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent those of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated, > nor does this message form any part of any contract unless so stated. > > MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from > external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct > and appropriate use of MTV communication equipment. > > MTV Networks Europe > *************************************************************************= ** > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 18:59:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29ED03BF53; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aTK8pWHLniZbBaXOLFmskB0OtG6RSgqGKFEuzPlL2SdXj9bVUkznCwjfCa0Lgs4DvWhewGWWAbBGidIBX8FFvh6ccgQ8g2sCPIa1g4lJmLO0wUE/YWJVwaryH8eynpJ4l3H8bwti/tve9sPE50mDNLtO/imq4apRaSgvPpCepAg= ; Message-ID: <20060403185924.35481.qmail@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: AW: 2 Questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3S6CLB.A.s1.NCXMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:59:26 +0000 (UTC) --- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Spending- I could spend between $200-300 on the > monitors.> If memory serves, $299 is about exactly what the M-audio powered cost my ex wife when she got them for her keyboard. I thought they were great for the price. > When I first got the Repeater, I tried placing it in > the amps FX loop, but > that believe it or not is the worst sounding > position of all the places I > tried in the chain. I also tried placing an old > muti-fx unit on bypass > between the Repeater & the FX loops Return, again, > to no avail. Yeah, most guitar effects loops are expecting you to put them into stomp boxes which are designed to work with weaker singals. That's why I bought the Johnson. It was one of the only amps with a line level stereo effect loop I could find. Good sounding amp too, IMO. For now I am going to rule out using the amp in any > way & concentrate on a > mixer/monitor set up. I mentioned in my last message > that I have 2 mixers > available for use, a tiny Nady & a larger Behringer- > any suggestions on > ways to route the Repeater signal through one of > those mixers & too > monitors? Out of the effects sends and back into a pair of inputs should work fine. Take the main outs and go right into your powered speakers, if you get them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 19:03:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C723D3BF30; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HVabxIvB0j22SHaloUb2XWR3FkXC0sYAXcVsSWK78VP4WsT81p0cLOPRyjR5/LyDfTjs3pQPQcX/gaHBYWsX0dXeHu7D6bDA5/dmVhHzeiCzEV2QCSWmcM29hWRgCRFCW0vCxjGDUU/KEuRFAhD9TFiaKXLvJwUL5DnfLtGsBhI= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:02:58 -0500 From: "Jon Southwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) In-Reply-To: <20060403165537.11412.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060403165537.11412.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Worked well for Penderecki when he re-titled his "Etude for Strings" to "Threnody (for the victims of Hiroshima)". There a plenty of examples of 'politically-charged' instrumental works from composers as diverse as Beethoven, Messiaen, Shostakovich, Schnittke, etc. There are also plenty of examples of instrumental works whose 'politically-charged-ness' is in the ear of the beholder and not in the intent of the composer. Cheers, Jon Southwood On 4/3/06, daniel stevenson wrote: > > what if this non lryical song has a title?maybe "the 19th of april" > or"butterfly tree"how=C2 about "the poison bushes"?if a listener were > familiar with the topic of an instrumental song the the music itself woul= d > become very politcal...a tranquil melody suddenly overpowered by a rumbli= ng From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 19:21:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8365A3BF47; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=E/VJbMXQ/fgfMZcs3g1tBUnwvzogMTJu4z16OOXlkE9MGPkOaacwMN5v6yrKvqn/E3ZZeIvp3KqTb94ZoxuTYS3VR6dnosmYZx4emiMNLga4D5sOzgB6vJ939BGrJYLZTXNUsk4vul+g+ZHJGlIWh7dKNNaw+0Npk7/E9BicEbs= ; Message-ID: <20060403192133.57736.qmail@web34215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:21:33 -0700 (PDT) From: grw20022 Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20d.14df87b4.3162bd9f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-498298435-1144092093=:57690" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-7L_5C.A.7XB._WXMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:21:35 +0000 (UTC) --0-498298435-1144092093=:57690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, they have a few good crash gardes like nortons...I also want to put my sounds that I made from a 4 track cassette onto a CD..I was going to buy an outside of the computer DVD+, that is the best for video..I have cakewalk in my computor and Magix but I do not trust the crash that can happen with music and video..you need 512mb with at least 80 GB harddrive to make it work..and it is still unstable compared to the 4 track tascam..but at least they are always working on it...save your files on a CDR or ZIP Drive..good luck..Gerry Donearlsto@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/3/06 1:58:53 PM, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com writes: All CD players are not created equal, then figure in PCs & DVD players and the unknowns pile up<< the cd I just made, with audio after the last end-of-track marker, crashed the windows cd player. it's more trouble than it's worth. does anyone know of a cd authoring tool that lets you enter cd-text? cd-architect, oddly, doesn't. in fact, the only time I've done it was using a denon standalone cd-recorder. d. Toast with Jam does this. -- Donovan Stokes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.donovanstokes.com --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-498298435-1144092093=:57690 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, they have a few good crash gardes like nortons...I also want to put my sounds that I made from a 4 track cassette onto a CD..I was going to buy an outside of the computer DVD+, that is the best for video..I have cakewalk in my computor and Magix but I do not trust the crash that can happen with music and video..you need 512mb with at least 80 GB harddrive to make it work..and it is still unstable compared to the 4 track tascam..but at least they are always working on it...save your files on a CDR or ZIP Drive..good luck..Gerry



Donearlsto@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 4/3/06 1:58:53 PM, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com writes:



All CD players are not created equal, then figure in PCs & DVD players and the unknowns pile up<<
the cd I just made, with audio after the last end-of-track marker, crashed the windows cd player. it's more trouble than it's worth.
does anyone know of a cd authoring tool that lets you enter cd-text? cd-architect, oddly, doesn't. in fact, the only time I've done it was using a denon standalone cd-recorder.
d.


Toast with Jam does this.



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How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-498298435-1144092093=:57690-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 20:24:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72E113BF02; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 20:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:26:33 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: Hidden tracks on cd? (CD-TEXT) In-reply-to: <26ba8d120604031147l59c7e210yafb9de77794fa308@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000001c6575c$e63ec940$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 20:24:42 +0000 (UTC) FWIW, My car CD-player won't play a CD-R with CD-TEXT, though it plays ordinary CD-Rs just fine. And, yeah... I've thought since the dawn of CDs that not providing the song titles as text on the disk was *extremely* bizarre and short-sighted. Best wishes, Warren Sirota Come hear *The Sandbox* at The Monkey in NYC, April 23rd, 8PM - details at www.warrensirota.com/sandbox > -----Original Message----- > From: tom.ritchford@gmail.com > [mailto:tom.ritchford@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Tom Ritchford > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:47 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? > > > It's so weird that CD-TEXT is so difficult to add into CDs. > Why it wasn't a standard from the Red Book at the start is > beyond me -- but once people realized it and added it, why > CD-TEXT isn't automatically included in every mastering program? > > I have precisely one commercial CD with CD-TEXT, Jeff Beck's > "You Had It Coming" (which is full of loopy material, btw -- > and musically strong -- strongly recommended!) > > On 4/3/06, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote: > > > > > > All CD players are not created equal, then figure in PCs & > DVD players > > and the unknowns pile up<< > > > > > > the cd I just made, with audio after the last end-of-track marker, > > crashed the windows cd player. it's more trouble than it's worth. > > > > does anyone know of a cd authoring tool that lets you enter > cd-text? > > cd-architect, oddly, doesn't. in fact, the only time I've > done it was > > using a denon standalone cd-recorder. > > > > > > d. > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > ***** > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the > ordinary user of > > the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be > > privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you > may not > > copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of > it in any > > form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please > > e-mail the sender by replying to this message. > > > > It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus > and other > > checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do > not affect > > your systems / data. Any views or opinions expressed in > this e-mail > > are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent those > > of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated, nor does this > > message form any part of any contract unless so stated. > > > > MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from > > external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct and > > appropriate use of MTV communication equipment. > > > > MTV Networks Europe > > > ********************************************************************** > > ***** > > > > > -- > /t > > http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar > http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... > http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 20:50:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E46933BF45; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 20:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LLmWkah69aI7LXZLcp0oevZLDz4IKnGWsVhGyyxc/MbgFo9V6HBYy9yn4s+HqMk+YN+biC4dP7ebfuebYh5CW6n7goED0fLrisepTlDDp6Ox7jPlhk3Dze0eKd9JsSd3dLsiQzAB0Fg9Pvni1I82ZhF35B0jHKTRlFp2erFm86Q= ; Message-ID: <20060403205033.91506.qmail@web38506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:50:33 -0700 (PDT) From: robert jenkins Subject: Re: vintage eh16 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 20:50:34 +0000 (UTC) about the "guy in texas;" he exists! his name is christian landry, and is friends w/ the guy i got my unit from. i emailed him about the infinite led being intermittent, and he was totally helpful (loose wire/something). he still works on them, and charges 55/hr for labor. he can be found at cjlectronics@houston.rr.com. hope this helps someone someday. rob't --- stanitarium wrote: > hey ted thanx fer the props! > back@cha. > yeah i got the footcontroller for the EH16DDL > too-very cool idea they had > for that. > i never use it tho'...i see the unit as a hand held > device-and as far as > repair-nonexistant afaik- > i have talked to NelsCline about repair and he said > "its tuff, there used to > be a guy in Texas, but..." > s > > > > > on 4/1/06 8:12 AM, tEd ® kiLLiAn at > tedkillian@charter.net wrote: > > > > Anywho, that's about enough. It brought back > memories just thinking > > about > > those days. I can no longer give you current > advice on the things. Like > > where > > is a decent repair shop or what have you. But > that's what Stan Card > > (Stan-o-saur) > > and some of these other cats on the list can help > you with. Stan is an > > amazing > > surf guitar player who uses EH16 loops and is > simply amazing to watch. > > I bet > > he'll have bunches o' advice for you. If you get a > chance to hear him > > perform > > sometime, he'll pin yer ears back too. > > > > Have fun! > > > > tEd ® kiLLiAn > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 3 21:31:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B88B3BF56; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: More findings on the LP-1 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:31:27 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote "All cool so far - but what I still have not figured out, with the LP-1, is if you can create many loops on those eight tracks. Not layering audio into the same loop but many loops that you can "call up"/"jump between". For example, the EDP does that and you can set the preferred number of "Moore Loops" at the program level. A similar function is found in Mobius where you can just keep on creating new loops on a track until the computer bogs down ;-)" I think I understand what you are asking, does the LP-1 do virtual tracks? or loops that you can toggle between? No it doesn't work like the EDP in that way, more like the Repeater, with separate tracks, however the LP-1 does not do weird tempo farts like the repeater does when using a multiply function, ( in the LP-1's case you have a choice of double, triple, or quadruple, your current loop length). What I find most liberating about the LP-1 is, the midi implementation is both global and variable for all tracks, so for example if I set up a bank of presets on my behringer FCB1010, as long as I have two presets dedicated to scrolling up and down from track to track, all of the other presets I have created for functions like record/overdub, playback/stop, erase, record speed, reverse, etc. expression pedal feedback control, and volume, will continue to work for the newly selected track, yet independently of the other tracks I've recorded. This means for example, Track 1 could be a short loop with a combination of overdubs in both record speeds, Track 2 a much longer melodic track, Track 3 is a medium length track recorded at held speed, toggled to normal speed to sound an octave higher and twice as fast and reversed, Track 4 could be yet another theme or harmonic series recorded at a different length, Track 5 could be another reversed melodic passage, etc and so on, up to 8 tracks, in sync, or not. Another great feature that I may have mentioned before, is with this unit, you can throw away your behringer FCB1010, manual (what good it did anyway:) because all midi controller functions are easily programmed from the front panel, and are sooo easy to assign to your midi foot pedal. Lastly, there is an all stop program feature, that naturally lets each loop play to the end and stop, so if you have created several loops of different lengths, the effect is one of each track dropping out independently, one at a time, in order of shortest to longest track, as opposed to everything abruptly coming to a halt. Sweeet. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 00:32:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7FFF3BF52; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 00:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IU6OQwdti9pl5c8Wlitcli49sFgm14delrZlZlazgXzxxCF8guvklFyertW5lAUAN8H3WPVkhG0DFiWfLMkRVYA3XA0xN+BguCrXyh/P2BQMBmLnrjVkODi28Rdcw9ucudPoJT0eeqgwCmgv38MPXzRTEQBp9inaINt3BVxXsgE= ; Message-ID: <20060404003159.13855.qmail@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:31:59 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: way ot /goodmans garage sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002601c656f4$97430a80$0207a8c0@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-411586760-1144110719=:410" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <6BXUtB.A.FgB.A6bMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 00:32:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-411586760-1144110719=:410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit you know a king sized water bed frame and a pond liner makes for a hell of a ebb and flow flood table. Stephen Goodman wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 04:56 AM Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > While we are at it: does anyone on this list have the Thomas Dolby CD > that he put out for the movie "The Minds Eye". Ah, the VHS of this was given to me some years ago and it's in storage in LA since 2000... One of these days I'll have to get back and have the biggest lawn sale of all time (anybody want a good king-size water bed frame?). There was another track from the vid, "Near Earth Object" that was pretty good too, a bit more euro I remember thinking. The guy at the storage place asked me the other week, "Hey man, you ever comin' back here?" I wish... Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-411586760-1144110719=:410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit you know a king sized water bed frame and a pond liner makes for a hell of a ebb and flow flood table.

Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "loop.pool"
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)"
Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 04:56 AM
Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages


> Mark Sottilaro wrote:
>
> While we are at it: does anyone on this list have the Thomas Dolby CD
> that he put out for the movie "The Minds Eye".

Ah, the VHS of this was given to me some years ago and it's in storage in LA
since 2000... One of these days I'll have to get back and have the biggest
lawn sale of all time (anybody want a good king-size water bed frame?).
There was another track from the vid, "Near Earth Object" that was pretty
good too, a bit more euro I remember thinking.

The guy at the storage place asked me the other week, "Hey man, you ever
comin' back here?" I wish...
Stephen Goodman

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How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-411586760-1144110719=:410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 01:17:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B3333BF52; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=t4E3pXII5LdrvI+QW4eQfXv1d0BH4HkYswZqccK/sE15Q2cFhYiMT08+xgt/JrgEVyn2HFUmL69p6DVa8GdkgtuF8v3YNl+RqCPY3ShBr9w3tc3ojov7/eUFcujFLgzQHMaq5WB20CODUgBVIqy0uT4ogP10iuvyZF57S3foaKs= ; Message-ID: <20060404011744.83891.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:17:44 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: boss dd20- underwhelmed... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060403202443.0E5423BF5A@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1003127995-1144113464=:82397" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <9q4huB.A.vzC.8kcMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:17:48 +0000 (UTC) --0-1003127995-1144113464=:82397 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit last week, i tried out a boss dd20 for 2 days and was underwhelmed. i would say that if you're looking for your 1st looper it would be a good purchase. also if you need live looping option for guitar it would be good w/ the foot controls thing, but i just found for my own needs (and i didn't really need one, just wanted to try it out)-it seemed redundant as to what my dod d-12 can do (along w/ my digitech rp100, & ibanez de-7 give me)... i thought that the best things on the dd20 where the basic delay (and the 23 sec is good), and i liked what the sound on sound could do, but i wished there was more manipulation options in that mode. the tape echo was ok, and the dual delay gave some interesting results. i thought all the other options (there are 11 modes) seemed gimmicky-like they needed to add things to make it worth the 179 or 225 cost. also might take in acct a couple of things: it was my 1st boss pedal and i was hoping it would bowl me over, and it didn't really. and the other thing i've been in "downsizing mode for a few months, and it didn't seem like something that i would put to use, considering my other options. the one thing i did love was the fast time change mode, you could really get wacky manipulations w/ that, and i debated keeping it for that alone..... s--- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. --0-1003127995-1144113464=:82397 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
last week, i tried out a boss dd20 for 2 days and was underwhelmed.
i would say that if you're looking for your 1st looper it would be a good
purchase.
also if you need live looping option for guitar it would be good w/ the foot controls thing,
but i just found for my own needs (and i didn't really need one, just wanted to try it
out)-it seemed redundant as to what my dod d-12 can do (along w/ my digitech rp100,
& ibanez de-7 give me)...
i thought that the best things on the dd20 where the basic delay (and the 23 sec is good),
and i liked what the sound on sound could do, but i wished there was more manipulation options in that mode.
the tape echo was ok, and the dual delay gave some interesting results.
i thought all the other options (there are 11 modes) seemed gimmicky-like they needed to add things to make it worth the 179 or 225 cost.
also might take in acct a couple of things: it was my 1st boss pedal and i was hoping it would bowl me over, and it didn't really. and the other thing i've been in "downsizing mode for a few months, and it didn't seem like something that i would put to use, considering my other options.
the one thing i did love was the fast time change mode, you could really get wacky manipulations w/ that, and i debated keeping it for that alone.....
s---

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Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. --0-1003127995-1144113464=:82397-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 01:30:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B35E3BF59; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000301c65787$4fc32b70$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20060404003159.13855.qmail@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: way ot /goodmans garage sale Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 02:29:16 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Daniel, I don't care WHAT you use it for, but just don't post it in Rich Text! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: daniel stevenson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 01:31 AM Subject: way ot /goodmans garage sale you know a king sized water bed frame and a pond liner makes for a hell of a ebb and flow flood table. Stephen Goodman wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 04:56 AM Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > While we are at it: does anyone on this list have the Thomas Dolby CD > that he put out for the movie "The Minds Eye". Ah, the VHS of this was given to me some years ago and it's in storage in LA since 2000... One of these days I'll have to get back and have the biggest lawn sale of all time (anybody want a good king-size water bed frame?). There was another track from the vid, "Near Earth Object" that was pretty good too, a bit more euro I remember thinking. The guy at the storage place asked me the other week, "Hey man, you ever comin' back here?" I wish... Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 01:50:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7522F3BF53; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=STaWZkM/WrZeOUnxM7dGrmd1Xxn0mMwQBP9lM4Jd6aKYJ+EdZITGG8fZ0jLklKso; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-2200642415030620@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:50:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da940129d4b0ab73ec40e5c8ac7420738c968350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.82 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Then there's the Christian hymn that was re-lyricised into "Deutschland Uber Alles" and was then cribbed for that old soul tune "Oh How Happy." ~Tim Mungenast > [Original Message] > From: Jon Southwood > To: > Date: 4/3/2006 3:03:01 PM > Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > > Worked well for Penderecki when he re-titled his "Etude for Strings" > to "Threnody (for the victims of Hiroshima)". > > There a plenty of examples of 'politically-charged' instrumental works > from composers as diverse as Beethoven, Messiaen, Shostakovich, > Schnittke, etc. There are also plenty of examples of instrumental > works whose 'politically-charged-ness' is in the ear of the beholder > and not in the intent of the composer. > > Cheers, > Jon Southwood > > On 4/3/06, daniel stevenson wrote: > > > > what if this non lryical song has a title?maybe "the 19th of april" > > or"butterfly tree"how about "the poison bushes"?if a listener were > > familiar with the topic of an instrumental song the the music itself would > > become very politcal...a tranquil melody suddenly overpowered by a rumbling From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 01:57:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C2EC3BF57; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=e5/e2Dud19BYmEiMFRrCcYwfXSVsKVDio7qF9tI5yvit+ctYR5gvahLS1eFP8eXD; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-2200642415729750@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Grandaddy of the VF-1 RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:57:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da940be8b0786d48fcbdfc85a207596469ede350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.82 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:57:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Do please tell me what you find out, so I can try it on my own RPS-10. (I'm actually glad their prices collapsed right after I bought mine, because now I will never be tempted to sell this great box, which still does one of the beefiest reverse sounds EVER!) ~Tim Mungenast www.myspace.com/timmungenast www.mungenast.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: 4/3/2006 12:09:58 PM Subject: RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16) >>and the wonderful Boss RPS-10....<< the half-rack pitch shifter? I can't remember if it was this or the similar RPD-10 (a panning delay) that, if you turned it around, had a mysterious "hold" footswitch socket in the back. which ever one it was, I have it somewhere, & have modified it to run a bit slower/grungier. I gigged it a couple of times before we got the second jam-man, & the frozen audio was glitch-tastic. must dig the bugger out again & see if it still wants to play. duncan/r.m.i. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. 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Do please tell me what you find out, so I can try it on my own RPS-10. (I'm actually glad their prices collapsed right after I bought mine, because now I will never be tempted to sell this great box, which still does one of the beefiest reverse sounds EVER!)
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>>and the wonderful Boss RPS-10....<<

the half-rack pitch shifter? I can't remember if it was this or the similar RPD-10 (a panning delay) that, if you turned it around, had a mysterious "hold" footswitch socket in the back. which ever one it was, I have it somewhere, & have modified it to run a bit slower/grungier. I gigged it a couple of times before we got the second jam-man, & the frozen audio was glitch-tastic.

must dig the bugger out again & see if it still wants to play.

duncan/r.m.i.



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------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 02:01:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCDE93BF56; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 02:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=gBnMa+7RqCb54JHtf2TxRlb4yP+IEH/pv+j5siQJWqJAsFcHPNS3HMwn0kcR374k; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-220064242121480@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:01:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da94046a0072a8d84b6e095a0e3842f50011c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.82 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 02:01:31 +0000 (UTC) "Many people just don't care to spend the time engaging with political addicts, as it makes life a far less satisfying thing. On the other hand, democracy demands participation, lest such political types infest and ultimately slow down everything while demanding "to be heard", " Interesting post, Stephen. I like having my preconceptions challenged! ~Tim > [Original Message] > From: Stephen Goodman > To: > Date: 4/3/2006 8:01:02 AM > Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > > I continue to have little patience for anyone who needs to define their > universe as "political", because it is these folks who want everyone to > operate on that basis, involving "deals" and "transactional relationships". > Great for the medium of know-nothing middlemen and career politicos with > nowhere else to go, not so great for everyone else. > > Politics are always kept private until it is felt that more converts are > required for whatever is called "the movement" right now. Then it's all > dumped on the rest of us as if we're somehow lacking in character or > something for disliking political types. Many people just don't care to > spend the time engaging with political addicts, as it makes life a far less > satisfying thing. On the other hand, democracy demands participation, lest > such political types infest and ultimately slow down everything while > demanding "to be heard", which usually means that what they want is for > everyone to "think like me". Of course if everyone thought the same there > wouldn't be any conflict - but then again we wouldn't be human anymore, just > duplicates. But to declare All Art is Always Political? Such is only true > for one who thinks so, and not for most others. > > As you can guess I don't think of peoples' relationships as political by > default. > > Art is Art. Like it? Great. Hate it? Great. It's what one does with > such experience I think that matters - but that is not Art, but ones > reaction to it. So, no, Art is not Political unless it's propaganda. Then > it's no longer Art, but Art Put To Use For Political Purposes, which in my > opinion renders it corrupt and only assessible from an aspect of Style, in > context of whatever political dross it was used to sell at the time. > > I've got an old Lenin pin, sold to a friend of mine by an ex-Soviet soldier > on the streets of St. Petersburg in the early 90s. In the US wearing such a > thing is more of a fashion blip than anything else. If I wore it in the UK > anytime near May 1, I'd be thought to be a Socialist/Anarchist/whatever, aka > Communism with a less-unhappy Face IMNSHO. If one is making Art that is by > specification Political, at the least what one is doing is making Political > Art, aka Propaganda for Political Purposes. > > And that's all I'll say about it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Tiedje" > To: > Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 10:09 AM > Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > > > > mark sottilaro wrote: > >> I'd pretty much say that non lyrical music has no > >> intrinsic political qualities. I dare you to gleen a > >> message from any of my music. Don't bother, there > >> isn't one. > > > > Any art is always political... > > Usually very conservative politicians want to claim that art should not be > > political, and deliver some examples, which show that these examples are > > political in their sense. (aka not asking the wrong questions...) > > > > Which is very political!!! > > And every artist should be aware of the posibility of this sort of > > political abuse. > > > > If you are not aware of it, it might be political in the wrong direction. > > > > Remember "Entartete Musik" and you know what politics can be about, you > > can't escape it. > > > > Stefan > > > > -- > > > > [][] [][][] [][] [][][] > > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > > > Stefan Tiedje > > Klanggestalter > > Electronic Composition > > & > > Improvisation > > > > /~~~~~\ > > \\\ /|() ()|\ > > ))))) )| | |( \\\ > > /// \ \_/)/ ))))) > > \___/ /// > > > > -------------------------x---- > > --_____-----------|----------- > > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- > > -- _|_)----|-----()----------- > > ----------()------------x----- > > > > 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, > > 94320 Thiais, France > > Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 02:23:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3D2A3BF54; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 02:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=e3kXJ5lYZi83ycmvFVxqDJcEFXhaWs9UdNhbF+M4ALDp+45nnhKYPgNBthWeVlLaPViq9eU2zJOJoNh96Te+b+MJR86XpwN7HXQwHaSS4VWxt3oEAtEGgZS0yUj6LPpeZD2J//JkpvPYp+gTflxKRs6LJsq/YDLFXzkpq0hwoO8= ; Message-ID: <20060404022259.10480.qmail@web37914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:22:59 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: way ot /goodmans garage sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000301c65787$4fc32b70$0207a8c0@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2026870583-1144117379=:10435" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 02:23:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-2026870583-1144117379=:10435 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i wouldnt know rich text from ghetto graffiti?my bad Stephen Goodman wrote: Daniel, I don't care WHAT you use it for, but just don't post it in Rich Text! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: daniel stevenson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 01:31 AM Subject: way ot /goodmans garage sale you know a king sized water bed frame and a pond liner makes for a hell of a ebb and flow flood table. Stephen Goodman wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 04:56 AM Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > While we are at it: does anyone on this list have the Thomas Dolby CD > that he put out for the movie "The Minds Eye". Ah, the VHS of this was given to me some years ago and it's in storage in LA since 2000... One of these days I'll have to get back and have the biggest lawn sale of all time (anybody want a good king-size water bed frame?). There was another track from the vid, "Near Earth Object" that was pretty good too, a bit more euro I remember thinking. The guy at the storage place asked me the other week, "Hey man, you ever comin' back here?" I wish... Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-2026870583-1144117379=:10435 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i wouldnt know rich text from ghetto graffiti?my bad

Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
Daniel, I don't care WHAT you use it for, but just don't post it in Rich
Text! :)

----- Original Message -----
From: daniel stevenson
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 01:31 AM
Subject: way ot /goodmans garage sale


you know a king sized water bed frame and a pond liner makes for a hell of a
ebb and flow flood table.

Stephen Goodman wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "loop.pool"
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)"
Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 04:56 AM
Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages


> Mark Sottilaro wrote:
>
> While we are at it: does anyone on this list have the Thomas Dolby CD
> that he put out for the movie "The Minds Eye".

Ah, the VHS of this was given to me some years ago and it's in storage in LA
since 2000... One of these days I'll have to get back and have the biggest
lawn sale of all time (anybody want a good king-size water bed frame?).
There was another track from the vid, "Near Earth Object" that was pretty
good too, a bit more euro I remember thinking.

The guy at the storage place asked me the other week, "Hey man, you ever
comin' back here?" I wish...
Stephen Goodman

* Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff
* http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack
* The Loop Of The Week since 1996!
* http://www.earthlight.net/Studios







How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.


How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-2026870583-1144117379=:10435-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 02:56:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 264DC3BF57; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 02:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4zMo2c5p27HEplYnn8UO0z1JNoU4G3AZe7TIx7lE1q9PQJAcrFOzdOo2QFeNFgn4kOxbJ5vGNAjYkjEm2ADl2uvzrtK9AmgQTLRtSel/ETKZJ1VnL56sGSrxVkeUgSUgKI3nB8YHQUZ0+aicKCd8hXufI/I2MAzJU2zbD3Qwwdc= ; Message-ID: <20060404025628.85193.qmail@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:56:28 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: way ot /goodmans garage sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000301c65787$4fc32b70$0207a8c0@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <2gZyvC.A.8vF.dBeMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 02:56:30 +0000 (UTC) sorry bout that mate.is this better? hope so, danny scary --- Stephen Goodman wrote: > Daniel, I don't care WHAT you use it for, but just > don't post it in Rich > Text! :) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: daniel stevenson > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 01:31 AM > Subject: way ot /goodmans garage sale > > > you know a king sized water bed frame and a pond > liner makes for a hell of a > ebb and flow flood table. > > Stephen Goodman wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "loop.pool" > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Sent: Monday, 03 April, 2006 04:56 AM > Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages > > > > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > > > While we are at it: does anyone on this list have > the Thomas Dolby CD > > that he put out for the movie "The Minds Eye". > > Ah, the VHS of this was given to me some years ago > and it's in storage in LA > since 2000... One of these days I'll have to get > back and have the biggest > lawn sale of all time (anybody want a good king-size > water bed frame?). > There was another track from the vid, "Near Earth > Object" that was pretty > good too, a bit more euro I remember thinking. > > The guy at the storage place asked me the other > week, "Hey man, you ever > comin' back here?" I wish... > Stephen Goodman > > * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff > * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack > * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! > * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 05:17:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90B3C3BF57; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 05:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060403221300.01c40178@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:17:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Guitar Preamps (Was: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 05:17:32 +0000 (UTC) At 01:36 PM 4/1/2006, Andy wrote: >I don't have the Filter Queen , but still need to amplify the guitar >to line level. >I've been using an ADA MP-1 valve/transistor guitar preamp lately. >Does good clean pre-amping, or interesting distortions. >:-( but perhaps not as cheap as you'd like >(don't know though, mine cost £100 in GB, so you might find one v. >reasonably in US). Thanks, Andy. It looks good. What are the other preferred guitar preamps for folks on the list? I'd like to get a really hot but full-range signal from my acoustic guitar. Thanks, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com Phone: 541.757.1933 Fax: 541.738.0604 Email: Kevin@TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 05:20:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 917CC3BF52; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 05:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <002601c656f4$97430a80$0207a8c0@eluk1> References: <013501c656d2$88018640$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <002601c656f4$97430a80$0207a8c0@eluk1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8e450c93144ac991460ff9f62366a3b9@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suit & Tie Guy Subject: Re: semi OT first Thomas Dolby tour in ages Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 00:20:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 05:20:12 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 3, 2006, at 2:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > another track from the vid, "Near Earth Object" that was pretty good > too, a bit more euro I remember thinking. one of the most amazing things about that album is that it was commissioned, composed, and recorded in a month. he expected two months to do it, which is why the E-Mu Morpheus was used in a lot of places he was expecting to use the Yamaha VL-1. it arrived soon after the mooks at Miramar had demanded the album a month early. he probably won't perform it, but i would love to see him do "Valley of the Mind's Eye" live. --- Suit & Tie Guy www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 05:51:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 009193BF57; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 05:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44320978.5020107@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 07:51:52 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 05:51:55 +0000 (UTC) jj 179 wrote: > What are your suggestions on the best way to put a hidden track on an > audio cd these days? I have done both in the past for some of my clients. Audio before the first track within the silence is a matter of the mastering programm and possibly of the CD-player, as the specs demand the pause before the first track to be exact 2 seconds. Any manufacturer who mutes anything before would still make a correct player. Try to play your disc on a different player... The hidden last track isn't that bad, because its likely to be found occasionally by anybody who allows silence in her rooms, you might want to add something which is only accessable for people who like silence... The disadvantage is, that you see it in the display, no way to hide that. But as the colleages already said, you need to know what its for. Typically its a fan bonus for hardcore fans who could share that insider knowledge. But if you want to give a bonus to your fans, let them walk to your website and offer the bonus there, maybe after registering. I think all the music you can download at DGMLive at the moment is a very effective way to bind fans, much more effective than a bonus track. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 05:54:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 455553BF59; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 05:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CxC64poF672ObjhzRRIQ/hbj2PuRDMzxtMpcFdCjU+7eeWG/djFxyCQfmKaNAz03Kmr7IKtGq1Wa5HMh7IUkDAUPCj2BQWXwe4ejnm1lusuDd5YY1cobsM+slpekK69j+4tH0nrkYdNYUwkZ5CVWXW4+6yRAIDq9dw0agOkVP3Y= ; Message-ID: <20060404055445.50650.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: AU SooperLooper and Digital Performer 4.6 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8e450c93144ac991460ff9f62366a3b9@suitandtieguy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 05:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Hey, has anyone tried this configuration? I'm having a hard time figuring out how to route the audio with the Jack audio server and Sooperlooper. If someone has some tips, I'd love to hear it. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 06:40:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F66E3BF4C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443214C3.5020204@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:40:03 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> In-Reply-To: <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Stephen Goodman wrote: > But to declare All Art is Always Political? Such is only true for > one who thinks so, and not for most others. I think there is a misinterpretation between intention and environment. I was talking about an environment we live in, which is political, social etc. I did not want to say any art has a political intention. This is very different. And of course most music does not have any political intention but still has political implications. Being aware of that helps to avoid what you expressed with these words: > because it is these folks who want everyone to operate on that basis, > involving "deals" and "transactional relationships". Great for the > medium of know-nothing middlemen and career politicos with nowhere > else to go, not so great for everyone else. There was a case in Germany recently as Angela Merkel used the song "Angie" for her propaganda. The Stones where not amused... But claiming a certain music is not political is clearly a political statement and carrys it into that context/perspective. If you have no political intention at all, you would not participate in this thread... ;-) Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 06:43:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 074043BF54; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: <20060404055445.50650.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060404055445.50650.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5AC28741-DB5A-468C-8BD2-250D99A79688@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: AU SooperLooper and Digital Performer 4.6 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:43:01 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:43:05 +0000 (UTC) On 4 apr 2006, at 07.54, mark sottilaro wrote: > has anyone tried this configuration? I'm having a > hard time figuring out how to route the audio with the > Jack audio server and Sooperlooper. If someone has > some tips, I'd love to hear it. I too had problems getting Jack running, but when I downloaded the latest Jack version it worked. With Jack comes a manual that is very explicit, I simply followed the steps lined out there. I didn't use it with Dig Perf though, but as far as internal routing through Jack I can't imagine it different from the applications I tested Jack with: Live and Logic. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast? id=128679560&s=143456 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 07:24:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AFDF3BF4D; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000d01c657b8$c64be760$6500a8c0@TeleWell.gateway> From: "joonas nissi" To: Subject: FS: Digitech PDS8000 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:24:12 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <7YyJP.A.XoD.K9hMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Hello there, this is my first post to loopersdelight, my name is Joonas = and I'm from Finland, and I've been using loopers (DOD DFX94 in the = beginning, Digitech PDS8000 & Akai Headrush) for several years. Now I'm = afraid that the PDS8000 will have to go, I'm gonna use the cash for a = more modern looper (I'm currently looking at the Boss RC-20). I really = like the pedal, but I feel like it restricts my playing and looping (I'm = sure you know what I mean if you know the pedal), so off it goes! The PDS8000 is in quite a good shape for it's age, some hissing & a = slight volume drop when on, I've been using this with a line selector = anyway. The switches work perfectly. I'll ship anywhere really, but = EU/UK preferred, buyer pays shipping. The asking price is 230 euros / = best offer. Straight trades to more modern loopers etc. also possible, = let me know what you've got.=20 Sorry to spam in my very first post, but I just thought someone here = might be interested (I've been reading the mailing list archive for = years now, seems like a lot of you guys appreciate these pedals).=20 All the best, -j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 07:30:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 372653BF4D; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAJK5MUSILCw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404081830.0282fa60@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:27:55 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re:Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) In-Reply-To: <20060403162723.A80323BF77@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060403162723.A80323BF77@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:30:23 +0000 (UTC) At 17:27 03/04/06, you wrote: >music >which most people don't even consider music could be seen as the most >radical as it is defying the dominant value-system, whose ultimate >purpose is of course control. a much broader system of control than >"left wing" or "communist" labels imply. Not these days surely? The educational/academic establishments now promote music which "most people don't consider music". ...and of course those establishments are the tool of government, and of course they are a big part of the dominant value system. andy b From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 07:45:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E3AE3BF51; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAJK5MUSILCw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404083816.0282dbb0@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:43:06 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: More findings on the LP-1 In-Reply-To: <20060404020132.5447A3BF5C@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060404020132.5447A3BF5C@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:45:32 +0000 (UTC) >Another great >feature that I may have mentioned before, is with this unit, you can throw >away your behringer FCB1010, manual (what good it did anyway:) because all >midi controller functions are easily programmed from the front panel, and >are sooo easy to assign to your midi foot pedal. hi Bill, ...so you wrenched that LP-1 out of little bros grasp? actually if you want to start doing more advanced stuff with the LP-1 I think the FCB1010 manual starts to come in handy again. For instance, if you want to start recording on a Multiplied track right away. That requires sending 2 midi commands from one pedal. ...there's no escape ...huh, but what do I know, LP-1 is out of reach for me andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 08:11:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42C373BF56; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=i2kNGAh3z/NtvoNXEyx4Fx3yVFeqe2Y+qA+N+6/xtCne4FbjAW7Hs9Pqo4r7XUnuKuo7NmJoVsQkZk3OQeCXjJ1cmJzSVTD2lo9WBowz4dmtcyrH1vAsa7oNqEZ3FvAyO2QCyW+8hw8A2FSwlCeAT/4kQpAPpWsYRAQ9UJ9hcCk= Message-ID: <6df9336a0604040111p7fc221e9w75341863489827f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:11:18 -0700 From: skincage To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Robert Rich tour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:11:20 +0000 (UTC) i was fortunate enough to see Robert Rich play in Tucson tonight. i sat a little further back than i usually do at shows so i could listen more effectively instead of gearspotting, but i did notice several Line6 products and Ableton Live on his laptop. another form of looping, analog sequencing on a MOTM modular synth rack, formed the backdrop for most of the evening, with Robert live-looping lap steel w/ ebow and various homemade pvc flutes. very nice! go see him if you are on this tour. dates at http://www.robertrich.com/rrconcerts.html jon/skincage From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 10:33:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 018C63BF4C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: <6df9336a0604040111p7fc221e9w75341863489827f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <6df9336a0604040111p7fc221e9w75341863489827f8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0DB51788-E676-4753-8822-3CC910F9BB85@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Robert Rich tour Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:32:59 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:33:12 +0000 (UTC) On 4 apr 2006, at 10.11, skincage wrote: > i was fortunate enough to see Robert Rich play in Tucson tonight. i > sat a little further back than i usually do at shows so i could listen > more effectively instead of gearspotting, but i did notice several > Line6 products and Ableton Live on his laptop. another form of > looping, analog sequencing on a MOTM modular synth rack, formed the > backdrop for most of the evening, with Robert live-looping lap steel > w/ ebow and various homemade pvc flutes. very nice! go see him if you > are on this tour. dates at http://www.robertrich.com/rrconcerts.html > > jon/skincage No European sejour listed though ;-( Maybe some other time. I'm finding RR's music tremendously inspiring. During the last month or so I have been listening a lot to his records as well as the stuff he did with Ian Boddy. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 10:57:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 231F63BF53; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <000201c65716$7ec36730$e701a8c0@pcfabio> References: <000201c65716$7ec36730$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-484786356 Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: ARVE HENRIKSON Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:57:07 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-Server-Quench: c15ad2a8-c3c9-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:57:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-484786356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Oh HE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE MUSICIANS!! I just love him. He's an amazing performer. He gave a performance at our warehouse in San Francisco, in Nov 2004, just the night after the last presidential elections. It was a cathartic experience that made us all feel quite a bit better. Imogen Heap is a huge fan too...they've worked together in the past. On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Fabio Anile wrote: > As usual, when I listen to a disc, I pay attention to all the > musicians, involved in. > So, in the last months, when, I was listen to the last David > Sylvian album (Slow Borne Sorrow), > I was attracted by a misterious trumpet player, named (as I read in > the "micro" notes, inside > that disc) Arve Henriksen (www.arvehenriksen.no/). > After some research on the web I buy his last album, called > "Chiaroscuro", an italian words, meaning > "light and shade" > > People.....this week-end I fall in love with this album, playing it > over and over in my CD player. > Arve is an explorative musician: he plays is trumpet thinking to > voice and sings thinking to his trumpet, > there's a lot of research in this direction, generating interesting > sounds and effects. Sometimes, his trumpet remind me > Jon Hassel; sometimes Chet Baker; sometimes N. P. Molvaer; > soometimes it reminds me just ancient sounds, birds, winds..... > It's in a sort of ambient style, with ethnic percussions sometimes, > and.... last but not the least: > there is a lot of looping (expecially used for harmonizations) . > > I'm sure there is someone on this list, knowing this guy.... > Maybe you, Per, have you ever heard him ? > I'm surely interested in your opinion... > For those who don't know him, I strongly raccomend it ! > > > Fabio > > http://xoomer.virgilio.it/eterogeneo/ > http://music.download.com/eterogeneo/3600-8357-100294444.html? > tag=quickurl > --Apple-Mail-6-484786356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh HE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE = MUSICIANS!! I just love him. He's an amazing performer. He gave a = performance at our warehouse in San Francisco, in Nov 2004, just the = night after the last presidential elections. It was a cathartic = experience that made us all feel quite a bit better.

Imogen Heap is a huge fan = too...they've worked together in the past.


On Apr 3, = 2006, at 12:33 PM, Fabio Anile wrote:

As usual, = when I listen to a disc, I pay attention to all the musicians, involved = in.
So, in the last months, = when,=A0=A0I was=A0listen to the last David Sylvian album (Slow Borne = Sorrow),
I=A0was attracted by a = misterious trumpet player, named=A0(as=A0I read in the "micro" notes, = inside

= --Apple-Mail-6-484786356-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 10:57:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C462A3BF66; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <000201c65716$7ec36730$e701a8c0@pcfabio> References: <000201c65716$7ec36730$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-484789820 Message-Id: <5F910C4A-B8AC-4A30-8BB1-9D346FA3EA00@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: ARVE HENRIKSON Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:57:10 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-Server-Quench: c715957a-c3c9-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:57:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-484789820 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Oh HE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE MUSICIANS!! I just love him. He's an amazing performer. He gave a performance at our warehouse in San Francisco, in Nov 2004, just the night after the last presidential elections. It was a cathartic experience that made us all feel quite a bit better. Imogen Heap is a huge fan too...they've worked together in the past. On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Fabio Anile wrote: > As usual, when I listen to a disc, I pay attention to all the > musicians, involved in. > So, in the last months, when, I was listen to the last David > Sylvian album (Slow Borne Sorrow), > I was attracted by a misterious trumpet player, named (as I read in > the "micro" notes, inside > that disc) Arve Henriksen (www.arvehenriksen.no/). > After some research on the web I buy his last album, called > "Chiaroscuro", an italian words, meaning > "light and shade" > > People.....this week-end I fall in love with this album, playing it > over and over in my CD player. > Arve is an explorative musician: he plays is trumpet thinking to > voice and sings thinking to his trumpet, > there's a lot of research in this direction, generating interesting > sounds and effects. Sometimes, his trumpet remind me > Jon Hassel; sometimes Chet Baker; sometimes N. P. Molvaer; > soometimes it reminds me just ancient sounds, birds, winds..... > It's in a sort of ambient style, with ethnic percussions sometimes, > and.... last but not the least: > there is a lot of looping (expecially used for harmonizations) . > > I'm sure there is someone on this list, knowing this guy.... > Maybe you, Per, have you ever heard him ? > I'm surely interested in your opinion... > For those who don't know him, I strongly raccomend it ! > > > Fabio > > http://xoomer.virgilio.it/eterogeneo/ > http://music.download.com/eterogeneo/3600-8357-100294444.html? > tag=quickurl > --Apple-Mail-7-484789820 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh HE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE = MUSICIANS!! I just love him. He's an amazing performer. He gave a = performance at our warehouse in San Francisco, in Nov 2004, just the = night after the last presidential elections. It was a cathartic = experience that made us all feel quite a bit better.

Imogen Heap is a huge fan = too...they've worked together in the past.


On Apr 3, = 2006, at 12:33 PM, Fabio Anile wrote:

As usual, = when I listen to a disc, I pay attention to all the musicians, involved = in.
So, in the last months, = when,=A0=A0I was=A0listen to the last David Sylvian album (Slow Borne = Sorrow),
I=A0was attracted by a = misterious trumpet player, named=A0(as=A0I read in the "micro" notes, = inside

= --Apple-Mail-7-484789820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 11:00:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B65D43BF54; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <50EB1FB8-9420-4C57-9B7D-582334672D00@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loop List From: Steve Lawson Subject: Re: Robert Rich tour Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:00:46 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - paddington.sitehq4.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <6rKdND.A.w6.jHlMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:00:51 +0000 (UTC) I met Robert at NAMM, seems like a very nice bloke indeed. I think he's now in touch with Bob about the Looperlative. The CD I have of his is marvellous. I'd love to see him live. cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 11:11:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBBDA3BF5B; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAMjqMUSILCw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404120506.02cb1620@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:08:58 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) In-Reply-To: <20060404105708.7EA5F3BF5C@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060404105708.7EA5F3BF5C@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:11:35 +0000 (UTC) >But claiming a certain music is not political is clearly a political >statement and carrys it into that context/perspective. > >If you have no political intention at all, you would not participate >in this thread... ;-) hi Stephan, So what's your definition of Politics then? Would it be "that which politicians do" , which is rather how I think of it, or some other? andy butler ...if my music was political, I wouldn't have to ask the question ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 12:21:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3535B3BF4A; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000801c657e2$5787a290$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <443214C3.5020204@addcom.de> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:21:44 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:21:57 +0000 (UTC) From: "Stefan Tiedje" > Stephen Goodman wrote: >> But to declare All Art is Always Political? Such is only true for >> one who thinks so, and not for most others. > > I think there is a misinterpretation between intention and environment. > I was talking about an environment we live in, which is political, > social etc. > I did not want to say any art has a political intention. > This is very different. And of course most music does not have any > political intention but still has political implications. Only if one requires political implications in the act of listening to said music. I think it's purely personal, unless the listener requires others to share their viewpoint. > Being aware of that helps to avoid what you expressed with these words: > >> because it is these folks who want everyone to operate on that basis, >> involving "deals" and "transactional relationships". Great for the medium >> of know-nothing middlemen and career politicos with nowhere else to go, >> not so great for everyone else. Not at all. What I said was that defining things as "political" by default literally declares that others must share in the same idea. Unilateral labeling of consumers is one of the problems the big music companies create, because it's simply easier during the promo phase, though as one can easily see this tactic does not work for them. So much so that they've had to redefine what Gold and Platinum awards are, just to keep their poorly-performing products in the public eye. One of these days someone who writes and performs good work will sell over 1,000,000 copies, and they'll have to come up with another Uber-Metal to call the old benchmark! > There was a case in Germany recently as Angela Merkel used the song > "Angie" for her propaganda. The Stones where not amused... And Italy's PM has gotten in trouble with Bono [gasp! call the media!] after he used a photo of the two of them shaking hands in his reelection campaign. (What did Bono think the guy was going to do, hang it on his wall and forget about it? I'm sure if Bono and Berlusconi's politics were the same kind of Leftism things would be different. So is politics an enhancement to cooperation, or a hindrance? Again, it's a personal thing, isn't it?) > But claiming a certain music is not political is clearly a political > statement and carrys it into that context/perspective. Such is only a political statement if the context it was made in was political. It's not the other way round. > If you have no political intention at all, you would not participate in > this thread... ;-) My intention is to keep politics out of it as much as possible, which also reduces punditry, repression, and easy-to-use generalizations about the public. > Stefan > > -- > > [][] [][][] [][] [][][] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > Stefan Tiedje > Klanggestalter > Electronic Composition > & > Improvisation > > /~~~~~\ > \\\ /|() ()|\ > ))))) )| | |( \\\ > /// \ \_/)/ ))))) > \___/ /// > > -------------------------x---- > --_____-----------|----------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- > -- _|_)----|-----()----------- > ----------()------------x----- > > 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, > 94320 Thiais, France > Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 12:35:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BA4B3BF4A; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Le2QA+iSGoXeFnBUxfiOPQT8U6qTyjI07fNrG7rGKvEZXYaM08Qjtf+i/Td7SpgbDWWsje53uGNr9sL8190UNgDDPq4n8z4iikI/KtSqkHeIpYTaFHi2ZyaxZdhLIRIevvTIdeQPwWW4pQ7ILSLo0f1WTFxosrCBEw2f2CHH+/g= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:34:53 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More findings on the LP-1 In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404083816.0282dbb0@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060404020132.5447A3BF5C@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060404083816.0282dbb0@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:35:02 +0000 (UTC) I want a LP-1! On 4/4/06, a k butler wrote: > > >Another great > >feature that I may have mentioned before, is with this unit, you can thr= ow > >away your behringer FCB1010, manual (what good it did anyway:) because a= ll > >midi controller functions are easily programmed from the front panel, an= d > >are sooo easy to assign to your midi foot pedal. > > hi Bill, > ...so you wrenched that LP-1 out of little bros grasp? > > actually if you want to start doing more advanced stuff with the LP-1 > I think the FCB1010 manual starts to come in handy again. > For instance, if you want to start recording on a Multiplied track right = away. > That requires sending 2 midi commands from one pedal. > > ...there's no escape > > ...huh, but what do I know, LP-1 is out of reach for me > > andy butler > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 13:39:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9643E3BF4C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060403221300.01c40178@TheNettles.com> References: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> <7.0.0.16.0.20060403221300.01c40178@TheNettles.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-494508169 Message-Id: <268ba5ac5b88d12d2824a2157f6eb0c8@glasswing.com> Cc: Christy K&K Sound / , Brian at Home From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Guitar Preamps (Was: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:39:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) X-STA-Metric: 0 (engine=021) X-STA-NotSpam: wrote: pm, kevin wrote engineer X-STA-Spam: incredible alamo amplify tubes amps Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:39:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-494508169 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Kevin You're there in Oregon, right? Get the Trinity Plus pickup from K&K=20 Sound in Coos Bay (I think it's Coos Bay). The MOST INCREDIBLE=20 sounding acoustic pickup on earth. I've tried them all. Recently=20 installed K&Ks in a bunch of my acoustic guitars and Mike Gillies=20 (Metallica, Motley Crue, Willie Nelson, Celine Dion), who is helping us=20= engineer the Hayley Sales project for Universal Music said, "Amazing! =20= We don't need mic's!" And we have some very nice mic's here. www.kksound.com They have pre amps built in. But I use the Chameleon (Chinese Neve)=20 mic pre (DI) to get a very wicked and wonderful sound. You can get=20 the Chameleon from Pacific Pro Audio. It's very affordable and sweet=20 (around $600-700 USD). Good for vox too. We use it with the Neumann=20 M149 for lead vox. I've CC'd this to Brian at Pacific Pro and Christy=20= at K&K so you can have their email addresses. www.pacificproaudio.com I guarantee if you want a real acoustic sound this is one of the very=20 best paths going. For distortion I use an old Panaramic (Magnatone) amp. 1X12" speak,=20 Telefunken tubes... Can't beat it. Don't like stomp boxes for some=20 perverted reason. Also have a 72 Marshall (plexi electronics).. Like=20= the Panaramic better for a rich, fat, natural distortion on acoustic. =20= Hard to find. Used a little Alamo once with acoustic guitar that was=20 pretty nice... but too bright. For the distorted, more elec guitar=20 sound on acoustic I use a little Webber parlor with a Highlander=20 pickup. Not real like the K&K but cool for an almost Tele or weird=20 Strat kind of sound. ALWAYS gets huge compliments, "how do you get=20 that sound?"s and raised eyebrows. For David Webbers guitars: http://www.webberguitars.com/ You can see some of this stuff on my site in the "Tools" section. Peace inside and out richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 3-Apr-06, at 10:17 PM, Kevin wrote: > At 01:36 PM 4/1/2006, Andy wrote: >> I don't have the Filter Queen , but still need to amplify the guitar=20= >> to line level. >> I've been using an ADA MP-1 valve/transistor guitar preamp lately. >> Does good clean pre-amping, or interesting distortions. >> :-( but perhaps not as cheap as you'd like >> (don't know though, mine cost =A3100 in GB, so you might find one v.=20= >> reasonably in US). > > Thanks, Andy. It looks good. > > What are the other preferred guitar preamps for folks on the list? =20 > I'd like to get a really hot but full-range signal from my acoustic=20 > guitar. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music > www.TheNettles.com > Phone: 541.757.1933 > Fax: 541.738.0604 > Email: Kevin@TheNettles.com > --Apple-Mail-3-494508169 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Kevin You're there in Oregon, right? Get the Trinity Plus pickup from K&K Sound in Coos Bay (I think it's Coos Bay). The MOST INCREDIBLE sounding acoustic pickup on earth. I've tried them all. Recently installed K&Ks in a bunch of my acoustic guitars and Mike Gillies (Metallica, Motley Crue, Willie Nelson, Celine Dion), who is helping us engineer the Hayley Sales project for Universal Music said, "Amazing! We don't need mic's!" And we have some very nice mic's here. =20 www.kksound.com They have pre amps built in. But I use the Chameleon (Chinese Neve) mic pre (DI) to get a very wicked and wonderful sound. You can get the Chameleon from Pacific Pro Audio. It's very affordable and sweet (around $600-700 USD). Good for vox too. We use it with the Neumann M149 for lead vox. I've CC'd this to Brian at Pacific Pro and Christy at K&K so you can have their email addresses. =20 www.pacificproaudio.com I guarantee if you want a real acoustic sound this is one of the very best paths going. =20 For distortion I use an old Panaramic (Magnatone) amp. 1X12" speak, Telefunken tubes... Can't beat it. Don't like stomp boxes for some perverted reason. Also have a 72 Marshall (plexi electronics).. Like the Panaramic better for a rich, fat, natural distortion on acoustic.=20 Hard to find. Used a little Alamo once with acoustic guitar that was pretty nice... but too bright. For the distorted, more elec guitar sound on acoustic I use a little Webber parlor with a Highlander pickup. Not real like the K&K but cool for an almost Tele or weird Strat kind of sound. ALWAYS gets huge compliments, "how do you get that sound?"s and raised eyebrows. For David Webbers guitars: http://www.webberguitars.com/ You can see some of this stuff on my site in the "Tools" section. Peace inside and out=20 Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 3-Apr-06, at 10:17 PM, Kevin wrote: At 01:36 PM 4/1/2006, Andy wrote: I don't have the Filter Queen , but still need to amplify the guitar to line level. I've been using an ADA MP-1 valve/transistor guitar preamp lately. Does good clean pre-amping, or interesting distortions. :-( but perhaps not as cheap as you'd like (don't know though, mine cost =A3100 in GB, so you might find one v. reasonably in US). Thanks, Andy. It looks good. What are the other preferred guitar preamps for folks on the list?=20 I'd like to get a really hot but full-range signal from my acoustic guitar. Thanks, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com Phone: 541.757.1933 Fax: 541.738.0604 Email: Kevin@TheNettles.com = --Apple-Mail-3-494508169-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 13:57:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EDDF3BF57; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3nki@modaldub.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404081830.0282fa60@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20060403162723.A80323BF77@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060404081830.0282fa60@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <88ABFD4E-29B5-4793-8993-485709A2EC13@modaldub.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:56:57 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - space.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - modaldub.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:57:04 +0000 (UTC) > The educational/academic establishments now promote music which > "most people don't consider music". they do? i can't think of an educational establishment promoting someone like Merzbow or Pita, even Einsutrzende Neubaten or La Mont Young, an art-mag darling. (well, maybe La Mont...) they promote so- called "new music" (Philip Glass), basically classical music updated a little. it's still tied to all the previous pseudo-scientific "rules" from the 18th century of music theory. most people might not like it, but i suspect they consider it music. it's simply a class differentiation (or education difference, or degree of indoctrination some might say) for people to appreciate Mozart or Varese or Stockhausen instead of The Gypsy Kings or the Rolling Stones. of course there are interesting differences in these groups in their political implications for where society is headed. but in the larger view, they are not particularly radical in their organization of noise. we have had people like Cage and Eno and all sorts of other "mainstream" intellectuals that i think really have heralded some kind of significant change. but that was the point of the article, and esp. something like Attali's book "Noise: the Political Economy of Music". that changes, social and political changes in society, are seen first in music. so to the extent that music different now than 100 years ago is taught in the academic world, we can see the truth of this - the changes that have come about politically and socially in that same time. some things are quite different and others not so much... a Kurt Schwitters sound-poem from 1920 is still pretty radical, for example, whereas Eno is quite accepted, at least sonically if not so much philosophically. and note that the academic establishment has had to incorporate these new developments after-the- fact, it was not the originator. i think Attali's point about a future stage of "composers" (which he wrote 30 years ago), where the former passive consumer of music, whose main function was a capitalistic one of purchasing recordings of music, instead in some fashion creates (or 'composes') their own music has proved somewhat accurate. he could not forsee PodCasts, file sharing, mash-ups, ableton Live, and so on, but given his remoteness his prescience seems remarkable. needless to say, i highly recommend his book "Noise" to anyone with a smidgen of interest in music, philosophy, politics or society. i think people who don't "believe" in politics are playing into the hands of those systems who would control us. just because we are lucky enough to live in a comfortable situation, should we be sheep and run around consuming and sensually enjoying life without actually participating as full-fledged independent, thinking, human beings? to say "oh i hate when these political types start ranting" is of course to to play straight into the hands of the status quo. i'm not saying someone needs to jump right in to any political discussion, anywhere anytime, but at least privately realize the political ramifications of their participation in the world in all its aspects, and not to deny these things. my semi-coherent 2-cent rambling, once again ;) - you will now be returned to your regular broadcast -3nki On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:27 AM, a k butler wrote: > At 17:27 03/04/06, you wrote: >> music >> which most people don't even consider music could be seen as the most >> radical as it is defying the dominant value-system, whose ultimate >> purpose is of course control. a much broader system of control than >> "left wing" or "communist" labels imply. > > Not these days surely? > The educational/academic establishments now promote music which > "most people don't consider music". > ...and of course those establishments are the tool of government, > and of course they are a big part of the dominant value system. > > andy b > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 14:02:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B5663BF5A; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005c01c657f0$646c3b20$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404120506.02cb1620@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:50:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:02:24 +0000 (UTC) > hi Stephan, > So what's your definition of Politics then? > It comes from two words... 'Poli' meaning 'many' 'tics' meaning 'blood sucking insects.' ;) Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 14:03:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C73193BF51; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 07:07:56 -0700 From: Bob Amstadt To: a k butler , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More findings on the LP-1 Message-ID: <44B06327778B0C3DF11D2138@[192.168.1.149]> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404083816.0282dbb0@tiscali.co.uk> References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404083816.0282dbb0@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Actually, the current LP1 software allows programming multiple functions to a single MIDI program change message. So, it is unnecessary to reprogram the FCB1010 if you don't want to. --On Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:43 AM +0100 a k butler wrote: >> Another great >> feature that I may have mentioned before, is with this unit, you can >> throw away your behringer FCB1010, manual (what good it did anyway:) >> because all midi controller functions are easily programmed from the >> front panel, and are sooo easy to assign to your midi foot pedal. > > hi Bill, > ...so you wrenched that LP-1 out of little bros grasp? > > actually if you want to start doing more advanced stuff with the LP-1 I > think the FCB1010 manual starts to come in handy again. > For instance, if you want to start recording on a Multiplied track right > away. > That requires sending 2 midi commands from one pedal. > > ...there's no escape > > ...huh, but what do I know, LP-1 is out of reach for me > > andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 14:13:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B6EC3BF4F; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <187e01c657f1$ed4dc6b0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404083816.0282dbb0@tiscali.co.uk> <44B06327778B0C3DF11D2138@[192.168.1.149]> Subject: Re: More findings on the LP-1 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:13:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 522, in=261497, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:13:24 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- > Actually, the current LP1 software allows programming multiple functions > to a single MIDI program change message. So, it is unnecessary to > reprogram the FCB1010 if you don't want to. I'm really looking forward to that! I've copied the section in the LP1 manual below, which describes this I think. It seems pretty straight-forward. ADVANCED BUTTON CONFIGURATION: Each button can perform up to 8 different functions in order with a single button press. When using the above procedure to assign functions to each button, you are actually assigning a sequence of functions to each button. In the above procedure, you only assign the first step in each sequence. To assign additional functions in the sequence, you use the track selection buttons to select the sequence position that you want to assign. For example, to assign the second step, press the track 2 button. EXAMPLE: Assigning the USER 4 button to reverse and halfspeed Kris > > --On Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:43 AM +0100 a k butler > wrote: > >>> Another great >>> feature that I may have mentioned before, is with this unit, you can >>> throw away your behringer FCB1010, manual (what good it did anyway:) >>> because all midi controller functions are easily programmed from the >>> front panel, and are sooo easy to assign to your midi foot pedal. >> >> hi Bill, >> ...so you wrenched that LP-1 out of little bros grasp? >> >> actually if you want to start doing more advanced stuff with the LP-1 I >> think the FCB1010 manual starts to come in handy again. >> For instance, if you want to start recording on a Multiplied track right >> away. >> That requires sending 2 midi commands from one pedal. >> >> ...there's no escape >> >> ...huh, but what do I know, LP-1 is out of reach for me >> >> andy butler >> > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 14:13:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC27D3BF5C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3nki@modaldub.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <005c01c657f0$646c3b20$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404120506.02cb1620@tiscali.co.uk> <005c01c657f0$646c3b20$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4BCDF7AB-F89D-49ED-B002-ED26C6DC3F5C@modaldub.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:13:46 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - space.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - modaldub.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:13:54 +0000 (UTC) pol=B7i=B7tics (pl-tks) n. The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a =20= society. Politics =46rom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Politics, sometimes defined as "the art and science of =20 government."[1], is a process by which collective decisions are made =20 within groups. Although the term is generally applied to behavior =20 within governments, politics is observed in all human (and many non-=20 human) group interactions, including corporate, academic, and =20 religious institutions. Political science is the study of political behavior and examines the =20= acquisition and application of power. One theorist, Harold Lasswell, has defined politics as "who gets =20 what, when, where, and how." An alternative definition, put forth by =20 political scientists Dickerson and Flanagan, is that politics is a =20 "process of conflict resolution in which support is mobilized and =20 maintained for collective projects". Politics (Aristotle) =46rom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Politics of Aristotle is the second half of a single treatise of =20 which his Ethics is the first. Both deal with one and the same =20 subject. This subject is what Aristotle calls in one place the =20 "philosophy of human affairs" but more frequently Political or Social =20= Science. He collected and studied the constitutions of over 150 city =20 states before writing the Politics. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 14:13:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F2283BF6C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8CFC07C2-02EF-4F8E-83B2-3CB42BFFF02E@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loop List From: Steve Lawson Subject: LP1/FCB1010 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:13:53 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - paddington.sitehq4.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:13:59 +0000 (UTC) >>>actually if you want to start doing more advanced stuff with the LP-1 > I think the FCB1010 manual starts to come in handy again. > For instance, if you want to start recording on a Multiplied track > right away. > That requires sending 2 midi commands from one pedal.<<< Unless I'm missing what you're saying here, Andy, that can be done with just the programming in the LP1 - you can program up to 8 different functions to happen simultaneously and in order onto any one button. So you could have a button that closed the current loop, switched to the next loop, sync'd it, multipled it to four times the original length and started it recording. All without having to do anything on the foot controller except press the button. :o) Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 14:47:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BA0D3BF4D; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fix8NowQzjuwk7AQlMHVx98Gm07bWzfQn0iG55HUjKu40YJ5+4IUbotNXJJpt7btzlcO63ls/xNkVD6d/DxtUIUndYLlS7G9KM9xaiG8c5oNpk9MjmRuJT+W78ABBOlOrohL5MeJapn/r/dz0iIEV/mEFfuKQVgJ1De/CGKxT/c= Message-ID: <588ce11d0604040747p31b2c48bw4c8f8ef67b0daa90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:47:38 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Guitar Preamps (Was: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens) In-Reply-To: <268ba5ac5b88d12d2824a2157f6eb0c8@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> <7.0.0.16.0.20060403221300.01c40178@TheNettles.com> <268ba5ac5b88d12d2824a2157f6eb0c8@glasswing.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:47:41 +0000 (UTC) I'll second the suggestion for K&K pickups. I used the "BigShot" and it was very hot with a great sound. Don't know if this is of interest, but I had four inexpensive preamps in my possesion for a while: M-Audio's AudioBuddy, Beheringer MIC200, ART Tube MP Studio V3 and Studio Projects VTB1. For electric guitar into a computer's soundcard, they all sounded pretty good (except for the Behringer), but my ear preferred the VTB1, with the ART a close second. -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://artsimon.iuma.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 15:18:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B4FE3BF4D; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W8XPyubA94JxsY2KhueuV6Pecw+9E6c7L7PzyegpADTMogG7KdDCjYmdJ19kew0rHY/W/eIEyKijXmdREikLc+cs722BTPJIRo5fA9s38bk2/ziH4enuJVh4+HK3DlyqZ1nBctaEVDoIECUqhUN9BQoVSj9OSpWvd0rEhz2NmoE= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604040818w20adab64w7a5e0fbf58055e0b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:18:20 +0100 From: "David Morton" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) In-Reply-To: <88ABFD4E-29B5-4793-8993-485709A2EC13@modaldub.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060403162723.A80323BF77@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060404081830.0282fa60@tiscali.co.uk> <88ABFD4E-29B5-4793-8993-485709A2EC13@modaldub.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:18:31 +0000 (UTC) On 4/4/06, 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> wrote: > needless to say, i highly > recommend his book "Noise" to anyone with a smidgen of interest in > music, philosophy, politics or society. Thank you for that, I've ordered it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 15:27:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C0063BF59; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <296.8bbc138.3163ea4b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:27:07 EDT Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_296.8bbc138.3163ea4b_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:27:12 +0000 (UTC) --part1_296.8bbc138.3163ea4b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 4/4/06 9:57:27 AM, 3nki@modaldub.net writes: > should we be sheep=A0 > and run around consuming and sensually enjoying life >=20 a big YES to that!.....sorry to have taken this quote out of=20 context.....:).....and if you don't agree with me you will be done away with= !.....i turn my=20 back to all things "political".....because i did respond to this post does n= ot=20 make me so, i just love being a sensually consuming sheepthang.....thnaks 3n= ki=20 for remainding me of my place in the universe, i on occasion do=20 forget!.....:).....mic www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_296.8bbc138.3163ea4b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/4/06 9:57:27 AM, 3nki@modaldub.net writes:


should we be sheep= =A0
and run around consuming and sensually enjoying life


a big YES to that!.....sorry to have taken this quote out of context.....= :).....and if you don't agree with me you will be done away with!.....i turn= my back to all things "political".....because i did respond to this post do= es not make me so, i just love being a sensually consuming sheepthang.....th= naks 3nki for remainding me of my place in the universe, i on occasion do fo= rget!.....:).....mic



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 --part1_296.8bbc138.3163ea4b_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 16:46:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AE783BF4A; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404093228.01b21848@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:46:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: Guitar Preamps (Was: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens) In-Reply-To: <268ba5ac5b88d12d2824a2157f6eb0c8@glasswing.com> References: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> <7.0.0.16.0.20060403221300.01c40178@TheNettles.com> <268ba5ac5b88d12d2824a2157f6eb0c8@glasswing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi Richard, Thanks for the tips! Yes, I'm from Oregon and I already use K&K pickups on some of my acoustic stuff. I was even K&K Artist of the month at one point: http://www.kksound.com/aotm/artistofthemonth0203.html I've also got a K&K Pure Western in my main guitar. And I also have the K&K Pure preamp although I hardly ever need to use it. However I still need a good preamp for the electric guitar stuff I do with my acoustic. I use the Dean Markley ProMag magnetic pickup in my sound hole for the electric sounds for when I want to sound like a horn or strings. Hence my question about the preamps folks use. I'm aware of all the high-end systems but all the gear I use has to pay its keep so I tend towards the cheap, sturdy and great sounding stuff. I also have an old electric guitar that I'd like to bring up to line level after the effects chain but before the looper and filter. Thanks, Kevin www.TheNettles.com At 06:39 AM 4/4/2006, you wrote: >You're there in Oregon, right? Get the Trinity Plus pickup from K&K >Sound in Coos Bay (I think it's Coos Bay). The MOST INCREDIBLE >sounding acoustic pickup on earth. I've tried them all. Recently >installed K&Ks in a bunch of my acoustic guitars and Mike Gillies >(Metallica, Motley Crue, Willie Nelson, Celine Dion), who is helping >us engineer the Hayley Sales project for Universal Music said, >"Amazing! We don't need mic's!" And we have some very nice mic's here. > >www.kksound.com > >They have pre amps built in. But I use the Chameleon (Chinese Neve) >mic pre (DI) to get a very wicked and wonderful sound. You can get >the Chameleon from Pacific Pro Audio. It's very affordable and >sweet (around $600-700 USD). Good for vox too. We use it with the >Neumann M149 for lead vox. I've CC'd this to Brian at Pacific Pro >and Christy at K&K so you can have their email addresses. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 17:03:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09A783BF4C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 17:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:57:46 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Sellon upgraded Jam-Man for sale Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1067952278==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 17:03:34 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1067952278==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I have a fully upgraded Jam-Man for sale. It has the non-volitile p-ram installed, plus full memory expansion. It also features the latest software update from Bob Sellon (4 tracks of looping!) The sound quality is notably better than my Electrix repeater or EH-16 second delay reissue, plus the Jam-Man has ZERO latency... http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/199903/msg00018.html http://www.stecrecords.com/gear/jamman/_04Manual/Changes.htm -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-1067952278==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Sellon upgraded Jam-Man for sale
I have a fully upgraded Jam-Man for sale.
It has the non-volitile p-ram installed, plus full memory expansion.
It also features the latest software update from Bob Sellon (4 tracks of looping!)
The sound quality is notably better than my Electrix repeater or EH-16 second delay reissue, plus the Jam-Man has ZERO latency...

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--============_-1067952278==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 19:00:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B84D03BF20; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:02:53 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: Coming to my gigs is political In-reply-to: <296.8bbc138.3163ea4b@aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000e01c6581a$61400f60$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <9KCLDC.A.5NF.oJsMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Obviously, this is just an excuse for a shameless plug. I would say, that coming to my gigs (or any member of this community's live gigs) is socio-economic in that it influences what live performance opportunities will be viable in the future. To some extent. (I say this sheepishly, as a busy life and sheer distance prevent me from attending anything but once in a blue moon. Don't let that be your excuse for the who-knows-when-it-will-happen-again show below, though!). Best wishes, Warren Sirota Come hear *The Sandbox* at The Monkey in NYC, April 23rd, 8PM - details at www.warrensirota.com/sandbox From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 19:55:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 979213BF18; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <197a01c65821$aa4c73e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: My Looperlative is here!!! Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:55:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SpamDetect: *: 1.047000 Subject has lots of exclamation marks=1.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 520, in=259636, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Well, it's here now, and in my rack...the LP1! And it's pure torture because I have conference calls for the rest of the day and can't plug into it. :) I might have to multi-task and at least get it connected to my rack gear and FCB. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 19:56:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7F713BF23; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: My Looperlative is here!!! Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:56:31 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <005401c65821$df213ba0$0601a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <197a01c65821$aa4c73e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcZYIa05qFVkZz1PTJuoi+xEn5sA0wAACGyw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:56:37 +0000 (UTC) right, do a phone conference, and connect every participant to one loop = of the looperlative ;)=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 > Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. April 2006 21:55 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: My Looperlative is here!!! >=20 > Well, it's here now, and in my rack...the LP1! And it's pure=20 > torture because I have conference calls for the rest of the=20 > day and can't plug into it. :) I might have to multi-task and=20 > at least get it connected to my rack gear and FCB. >=20 > Kris >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 20:00:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 284833BF29; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <198301c65822$6363b910$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <005401c65821$df213ba0$0601a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: My Looperlative is here!!! Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:00:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SpamDetect: *: 1.047000 Subject has lots of exclamation marks=1.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 522, in=262144, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:00:18 +0000 (UTC) You know I would love to do that! It's bad enough that on some calls with my European or Asia counter-parts that we get a bad line connection and hear a 600ms echo. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: AW: My Looperlative is here!!! right, do a phone conference, and connect every participant to one loop of the looperlative ;) > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. April 2006 21:55 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: My Looperlative is here!!! > > Well, it's here now, and in my rack...the LP1! And it's pure > torture because I have conference calls for the rest of the > day and can't plug into it. :) I might have to multi-task and > at least get it connected to my rack gear and FCB. > > Kris > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 20:04:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 154663BF34; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=dzHR03nSJleI5ofEvJc6wbBuP6BZD96WuXR9fWN08h1aNmXhB7fjows7IBIJdeGi; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <4043891.1144181085940.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:04:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Looperlative is here!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da940fab2914763ae8a7096f7461a0340d3c8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.49 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Congrats Kris! Christmas has come early! We expect a detailed report. Todd -----Original Message----- >From: Krispen Hartung >Sent: Apr 4, 2006 2:00 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: My Looperlative is here!!! > >You know I would love to do that! It's bad enough that on some calls with= =20 >my European or Asia counter-parts that we get a bad line connection and he= ar=20 >a 600ms echo. > >Kris > > >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:56 PM >Subject: AW: My Looperlative is here!!! > > >right, do a phone conference, and connect every participant to one loop of >the looperlative ;) > >> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. April 2006 21:55 >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Betreff: My Looperlative is here!!! >> >> Well, it's here now, and in my rack...the LP1! And it's pure >> torture because I have conference calls for the rest of the >> day and can't plug into it. :) I might have to multi-task and >> at least get it connected to my rack gear and FCB. >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 20:17:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 170813BF39; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=JTnP4mLy7lhmVVbvGHZOU26XCJM/BPsmr3z224qZMwSlET2vyGCPGjd2Huvyd1AdmqHt9a/SjATYivkuu5hVT5hnCyjmP4XkCHtJRbhKQ14NGKnLLafVXp/nn65PRqB3CDM0NPuRqi8oapPj5ucKJQPh4aQRwJZKY5AYSrbNcMw= In-Reply-To: <197a01c65821$aa4c73e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <197a01c65821$aa4c73e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: My Looperlative is here!!! Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:17:03 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:17:08 +0000 (UTC) On 4 apr 2006, at 21.55, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Well, it's here now, and in my rack...the LP1! Wo-hoo! Can't wait to hear about your impressions! ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 20:24:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15EF33BF26; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: boss dd20- underwhelmed... Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:24:16 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <005501c65825$bee94270$0601a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20060404011744.83891.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcZXhZWswVKpT6RjTnetBUADHSOJQQAneI4g Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Scott Hansen wrote something about the DD20, to which I want to add: I think the DD20 has a huge potential for anyone with embedded programming skills. It's correct that of the eleven modes, about five are really cool, but if the tape delay had real warble/saturation artifacts (think DL4), that would be a whole different story. And I'd like to be able to really return to a delay from which I've switched away and continue playing with it. And I want to store a SOS setting in user memory, so I could have two sound on sound loops. And I want to use the additional footswitch to halfspeed/reverse (just like with the DL4) when in SOS mode. And perhaps the possibility to restart a loop (with a UI for the left FS like when a loop is in memory: short press - restart loop, long press - erase loop. And then you can start recording to an empty loop with short press). And btw, please turn the "E.Level" knob into a mix knob so we can completely turn off the dry signal...just dreaming. I still have to combine both the DD20 and the DL4 for a mini looping rig... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 20:32:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FBE43BF2E; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cOcaVGLdEa0WFdQeg5rlV1PyUfPPxVfXYuNDJcwQ2re6f7unkOWP46DoOEZyHNH6fHrOSwaaEzs9hJC51HLTP713wYkKOaI6TvAeTdDpK7mK1PDFZXSFLKUCLdls4PCt3uz2YBUOpgG8MjUI3WodiounC0AUUiGzeW+VqTTO6VA= ; Message-ID: <20060404203219.20252.qmail@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: ARVE HENRIKSON To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5F910C4A-B8AC-4A30-8BB1-9D346FA3EA00@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <5896rC.A.bW.VftMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Arve is also a member of one of my favorite groups: Supersilent. If anyone on this list hasn't heard them, you definitely should! -t- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 20:36:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5D223BF34; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TWf9DTqxjwaC5JdR04PzvPDnEoFvNatBOu0ubq3MwhrmZhXp8MCdltM+C1cm6+dKdwZ6fojygu2tDWMobI8FClcdkKNwOOK4WsDR6hY3bFv5RDhCtGWzJO4SrV8n/kT8XsbRywkWgQA82V9RI8RWuncL+JdnwNOv/0N5YeMv7yA= Message-ID: <64b81a780604041336g341b5fb5x892d48b906b1df5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:36:53 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Guitar Preamps (Was: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404093228.01b21848@TheNettles.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> <7.0.0.16.0.20060403221300.01c40178@TheNettles.com> <268ba5ac5b88d12d2824a2157f6eb0c8@glasswing.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060404093228.01b21848@TheNettles.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:36:54 +0000 (UTC) On the less expensive side, I love my Fishman Pro EQ Platinum and it just so happens that zZounds is running a great sale on them. Check out Todd On 4/4/06, Kevin wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Thanks for the tips! Yes, I'm from Oregon and I already use K&K > pickups on some of my acoustic stuff. I was even K&K Artist of the > month at one point: > http://www.kksound.com/aotm/artistofthemonth0203.html > > I've also got a K&K Pure Western in my main guitar. And I also have > the K&K Pure preamp although I hardly ever need to use it. > > However I still need a good preamp for the electric guitar stuff I do > with my acoustic. I use the Dean Markley ProMag magnetic pickup in > my sound hole for the electric sounds for when I want to sound like a > horn or strings. Hence my question about the preamps folks use. I'm > aware of all the high-end systems but all the gear I use has to pay > its keep so I tend towards the cheap, sturdy and great sounding > stuff. I also have an old electric guitar that I'd like to bring up > to line level after the effects chain but before the looper and filter. > > Thanks, > Kevin > www.TheNettles.com > > At 06:39 AM 4/4/2006, you wrote: > >You're there in Oregon, right? Get the Trinity Plus pickup from K&K > >Sound in Coos Bay (I think it's Coos Bay). The MOST INCREDIBLE > >sounding acoustic pickup on earth. I've tried them all. Recently > >installed K&Ks in a bunch of my acoustic guitars and Mike Gillies > >(Metallica, Motley Crue, Willie Nelson, Celine Dion), who is helping > >us engineer the Hayley Sales project for Universal Music said, > >"Amazing! We don't need mic's!" And we have some very nice mic's here. > > > >www.kksound.com > > > >They have pre amps built in. But I use the Chameleon (Chinese Neve) > >mic pre (DI) to get a very wicked and wonderful sound. You can get > >the Chameleon from Pacific Pro Audio. It's very affordable and > >sweet (around $600-700 USD). Good for vox too. We use it with the > >Neumann M149 for lead vox. I've CC'd this to Brian at Pacific Pro > >and Christy at K&K so you can have their email addresses. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 20:41:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D66AB3BF3C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dyklrzAYML33y8UCk5uAhE481FKdwjwtjOdnaN/1+f4WWA0RgxILFdcz7IbStmVDMRVjYnDxqTtZHDy7KG/7oiwcEG4XuNW9rOLBRe5yWmAYesR4VknM45i77WxuRp34i/AGGsf6PbWeh3whLgH8UxaDxbbwc6HtnOlH1qgdoeU= Message-ID: <64b81a780604041341m4c5cddc0p14d7220342f9d1ac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:41:33 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Guitar Preamps (Was: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens) In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604041336g341b5fb5x892d48b906b1df5e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> <7.0.0.16.0.20060403221300.01c40178@TheNettles.com> <268ba5ac5b88d12d2824a2157f6eb0c8@glasswing.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060404093228.01b21848@TheNettles.com> <64b81a780604041336g341b5fb5x892d48b906b1df5e@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) In the same price range is the L.R. Baggs Para-Acoustic DI On 4/4/06, Todd Pafford wrote: > On the less expensive side, I love my Fishman Pro EQ Platinum and it > just so happens that zZounds is running a great sale on them. Check > out > > Todd > > On 4/4/06, Kevin wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > > > Thanks for the tips! Yes, I'm from Oregon and I already use K&K > > pickups on some of my acoustic stuff. I was even K&K Artist of the > > month at one point: > > http://www.kksound.com/aotm/artistofthemonth0203.html > > > > I've also got a K&K Pure Western in my main guitar. And I also have > > the K&K Pure preamp although I hardly ever need to use it. > > > > However I still need a good preamp for the electric guitar stuff I do > > with my acoustic. I use the Dean Markley ProMag magnetic pickup in > > my sound hole for the electric sounds for when I want to sound like a > > horn or strings. Hence my question about the preamps folks use. I'm > > aware of all the high-end systems but all the gear I use has to pay > > its keep so I tend towards the cheap, sturdy and great sounding > > stuff. I also have an old electric guitar that I'd like to bring up > > to line level after the effects chain but before the looper and filter. > > > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > www.TheNettles.com > > > > At 06:39 AM 4/4/2006, you wrote: > > >You're there in Oregon, right? Get the Trinity Plus pickup from K&K > > >Sound in Coos Bay (I think it's Coos Bay). The MOST INCREDIBLE > > >sounding acoustic pickup on earth. I've tried them all. Recently > > >installed K&Ks in a bunch of my acoustic guitars and Mike Gillies > > >(Metallica, Motley Crue, Willie Nelson, Celine Dion), who is helping > > >us engineer the Hayley Sales project for Universal Music said, > > >"Amazing! We don't need mic's!" And we have some very nice mic's her= e. > > > > > >www.kksound.com > > > > > >They have pre amps built in. But I use the Chameleon (Chinese Neve) > > >mic pre (DI) to get a very wicked and wonderful sound. You can get > > >the Chameleon from Pacific Pro Audio. It's very affordable and > > >sweet (around $600-700 USD). Good for vox too. We use it with the > > >Neumann M149 for lead vox. I've CC'd this to Brian at Pacific Pro > > >and Christy at K&K so you can have their email addresses. > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 21:01:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5848E3BF38; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-T2-Posting-ID: Fz54lhn1c1H4mF5/QZJzVQ== X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <4432DFBC.4070005@unguitar.com> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 23:06:04 +0200 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Guitar Preamps (Was: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens) References: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> <7.0.0.16.0.20060403221300.01c40178@TheNettles.com> <268ba5ac5b88d12d2824a2157f6eb0c8@glasswing.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060404093228.01b21848@TheNettles.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404093228.01b21848@TheNettles.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:01:03 +0000 (UTC) I am happy to see that preamps are getting considerations; they are the real heart of your sound and their qualities are not just the "sound" in itself but also some very important characters that make you feel it is an instrument and ...... blah blah... I play electric guitar direct to effects since the beginning of my musical life and after many, many preamps owned and tested, here is what I use everyday: http://www.spl-usa.com/gainstation1/2272_in_short_E.html After having found it I mailed my compliments to them and they did this: http://www.soundperformancelab.com/Ref/luca_formentini_E.html I don't endorse them, I payed for my Gainstation in full and wrote my compliments after having used it. I think this is a fantastic piece of gear. Try to find one, play with its knobs and listen. my best, luca Kevin wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Thanks for the tips! Yes, I'm from Oregon and I already use K&K > pickups on some of my acoustic stuff. I was even K&K Artist of the > month at one point: > http://www.kksound.com/aotm/artistofthemonth0203.html > > I've also got a K&K Pure Western in my main guitar. And I also have > the K&K Pure preamp although I hardly ever need to use it. > > However I still need a good preamp for the electric guitar stuff I do > with my acoustic. I use the Dean Markley ProMag magnetic pickup in my > sound hole for the electric sounds for when I want to sound like a > horn or strings. Hence my question about the preamps folks use. I'm > aware of all the high-end systems but all the gear I use has to pay > its keep so I tend towards the cheap, sturdy and great sounding > stuff. I also have an old electric guitar that I'd like to bring up > to line level after the effects chain but before the looper and filter. > > Thanks, > Kevin > www.TheNettles.com > > At 06:39 AM 4/4/2006, you wrote: > >> You're there in Oregon, right? Get the Trinity Plus pickup from K&K >> Sound in Coos Bay (I think it's Coos Bay). The MOST INCREDIBLE >> sounding acoustic pickup on earth. I've tried them all. Recently >> installed K&Ks in a bunch of my acoustic guitars and Mike Gillies >> (Metallica, Motley Crue, Willie Nelson, Celine Dion), who is helping >> us engineer the Hayley Sales project for Universal Music said, >> "Amazing! We don't need mic's!" And we have some very nice mic's here. >> >> www.kksound.com >> >> They have pre amps built in. But I use the Chameleon (Chinese Neve) >> mic pre (DI) to get a very wicked and wonderful sound. You can get >> the Chameleon from Pacific Pro Audio. It's very affordable and sweet >> (around $600-700 USD). Good for vox too. We use it with the Neumann >> M149 for lead vox. I've CC'd this to Brian at Pacific Pro and >> Christy at K&K so you can have their email addresses. > > > > > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 21:47:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 331293BF25; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aRJX4GnljMFQDSfYoQcMYEMiDZbgd+9va5TJXi9jAbDchEUNt+l/WQb9Hn66hMr5/2X6WsTZfWU6KkKOIGniVTryFEzkGs975ZwLrUfHXN/WynvPSsSmKszyHPhusycqRpPjOtOHWjunWaEE/Wvz2brXSFusmpTnNuHAE6URLjw= ; Message-ID: <20060404214756.71575.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Sellon upgraded Jam-Man for sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:47:58 +0000 (UTC) --- Charles Zwicky wrote: > The sound quality is notably better than my Electrix > repeater Really? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 21:54:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E8803BF2D; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060404214756.71575.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060404214756.71575.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 17:54:16 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Sellon upgraded Jam-Man for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Yep. The noise buildup when layering passes is obnoxious in the repeater... and yes I do drive it from a line level... >--- Charles Zwicky wrote: > >> The sound quality is notably better than my Electrix >> repeater > >Really? > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 21:59:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22AB13BF34; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <012601c65833$03d73650$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Robert Rich tour Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:59:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Robert Rich and Steve Roach came to my demo of the Looperlative at the NAMM show this past January. I knew of them only by reputation and not by sight so when they very generously each gave me one of their new CDs (unbidden),I was shocked to see who's CD I was holding. It was thrill because I have a lot of respect for both of them and have enjoyed their music. It looks like they will be Looperlative users in the near future as well for you gearheads keeping score out there. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 23:17:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1D9A3BF0F; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 23:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <170ED987-B60D-4971-816D-EC0CC159DA9A@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Zoe Keating Subject: loop interview podcast Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 00:17:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-Server-Quench: 2cf75782-c431-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 23:17:27 +0000 (UTC) I recorded this little podcast interview in January after a show in Detroit. The interview starts after a piece of music. I'm forwarding it to the list it because I talk a little about gear issues and what it's like to deal with them onstage in front of an audience! Here you go... http://archive-b01.libsyn.com/podcasts/barhopsessions/ bar_hop_sessions_show__2_-_with_your_host_Greater_Alexander.mp3? lneeeMV1bHmTdmt%2BbXNtq2urlHOY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 4 23:49:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C67F3BF0F; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 23:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XUTJnW4gR4imLXT5OjfmsOFIKDxDLEYdTmSxWWETJfGeqT0Z2LQhnBHBOcND3OOuBGDu3NYzYPusM39yiveofFD9GVGsoGwYQugHchS9bMBf+KdKkBO7aWitjXGWrlW4uNiM5ZELKtHtp1xYgRyrbpZUxtFKO+AJpEWDdGnb+Fs= ; Message-ID: <20060404234917.59650.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Sellon upgraded Jam-Man for sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 23:49:21 +0000 (UTC) As an owner of both, I have to say I've found it to be the exact opposite. Maybe you should check your gain structure. My Repeater seems pretty damn quiet and that stuff usually bugs me. Can't beat the JamMan for pure easy to use monophonic fun though. I kick myself for selling mine. I loved the way that thing worked... Damn that annoying click when it's MIDI synced though. That was a bummer about the good ol' JamMan. --- Charles Zwicky wrote: > Yep. The noise buildup when layering passes is > obnoxious in the > repeater... and yes I do drive it from a line > level... > > >--- Charles Zwicky wrote: > > > >> The sound quality is notably better than my > Electrix > >> repeater > > > >Really? > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 01:28:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66C333BF0D; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 01:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1a3801c65850$31064400$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Looperlative & MIDI Pedal Assignment Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:28:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=272297, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 01:28:10 +0000 (UTC) I just setup my Behringer to control my LP1...way too easy, though I'm still struggling with mapping my two controller pedals to feedback and volume...it's a problem with the FCB that I need to work out....user error. I just found the solution in the Looperlative Forum. Anyway, for those of you new, and relatively old LP1 users, I'm curious how you are mapping your MIDI pedals to LP1 functions. I'm finding myself slightly overwhelmed by the breadth of options, especially since I like to get everything in one MIDI controller bank (10 buttons). For starters, I have Record/Overdub, Play/Stop, Previous Track, Next Track, Reverse, Half Speed, All Stop, and Erase Track mapped to 8 of my FCB buttons. That leaves two more buttons to map. What are you current users mapping? Maybe I'll program a cool sequence like Reverse and Half-Speed at the same time, etc. If you are using more than one bank, how are you labeling your buttons? I put white electric tape on the top of my buttons, which allows me to write in two functions, one on top and another below it separated by a line. The top functions are for Mobius, and the bottom for the LP1. If I open up another bank for the LP1, I'm essentially out of writing space. Any ideas? I suppose I could create a laminated card of some sort and prop it behind the FCB. Kris p.s. I love the fact that the LP1 doesn't have an input control knob..one less thing for me to worry about. I just set the output from my incoming signal to generate a decent level on the LP1 input level meter. Also, the noise gate was a big surprise! Wow, not that I'll use it, but if I ever have a noise signal path, it will be nice to have there. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 01:35:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52C1A3BF12; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 01:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=aWPX+sZWVtSZtRa/nTcnXdNlI15p6xJTOcUGGC8fwzdgfIObABH3mmeS7yVTcfMT; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-2200643513454850@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: "sheep are very dim" Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:34:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da94038b3836138d17825be0f339dcbe79dc1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 01:35:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII And let's not forget 'arold, that most dangerous of sheep (LOL)... sorry, I couldn't resist the Python reference! ~Tim, Who Knows Much That Is Not Seen www.myspace.com/timmungenast www.mungenast.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: 4/4/2006 11:27:12 AM Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) In a message dated 4/4/06 9:57:27 AM, 3nki@modaldub.net writes: should we be sheep and run around consuming and sensually enjoying life a big YES to that!.....sorry to have taken this quote out of context.....:).....and if you don't agree with me you will be done away with!.....i turn my back to all things "political".....because i did respond to this post does not make me so, i just love being a sensually consuming sheepthang.....thnaks 3nki for remainding me of my place in the universe, i on occasion do forget!.....:).....mic www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
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a big YES to that!.....sorry to have taken this quote out of context.....:).....and if you don't agree with me you will be done away with!.....i turn my back to all things "political".....because i did respond to this post does not make me so, i just love being a sensually consuming sheepthang.....thnaks 3nki for remainding me of my place in the universe, i on occasion do forget!.....:).....mic



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------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 01:51:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4120E3BF16; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 01:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44332296.9050502@pdq.net> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:51:18 -0500 From: Doug Cox User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Guitar Preamps (Was: Guitars, Loopers and Filter Factory Queens) References: <20060401161200.921113C0A3@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060401191441.031661a0@tiscali.co.uk> <7.0.0.16.0.20060403221300.01c40178@TheNettles.com> <268ba5ac5b88d12d2824a2157f6eb0c8@glasswing.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060404093228.01b21848@TheNettles.com> <64b81a780604041336g341b5fb5x892d48b906b1df5e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604041336g341b5fb5x892d48b906b1df5e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2ZiN0C.A.Y-C.SKyMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 01:51:15 +0000 (UTC) I'm going to +1 this recommendation (Fishman Pro EQ Platinum). I played in a band with an acoustic guitar player who used one, and it sounded gorgeous every time. Excellent control of tone and feedback in a live acoustic guitar situation - never had a problem getting good tone and preventing feedback. Todd Pafford wrote: > On the less expensive side, I love my Fishman Pro EQ Platinum and it > just so happens that zZounds is running a great sale on them. Check > out > > Todd > > On 4/4/06, Kevin wrote: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> Thanks for the tips! Yes, I'm from Oregon and I already use K&K >> pickups on some of my acoustic stuff. I was even K&K Artist of the >> month at one point: >> http://www.kksound.com/aotm/artistofthemonth0203.html >> >> I've also got a K&K Pure Western in my main guitar. And I also have >> the K&K Pure preamp although I hardly ever need to use it. >> >> However I still need a good preamp for the electric guitar stuff I do >> with my acoustic. I use the Dean Markley ProMag magnetic pickup in >> my sound hole for the electric sounds for when I want to sound like a >> horn or strings. Hence my question about the preamps folks use. I'm >> aware of all the high-end systems but all the gear I use has to pay >> its keep so I tend towards the cheap, sturdy and great sounding >> stuff. I also have an old electric guitar that I'd like to bring up >> to line level after the effects chain but before the looper and filter. >> >> Thanks, >> Kevin >> www.TheNettles.com >> >> At 06:39 AM 4/4/2006, you wrote: >> >>> You're there in Oregon, right? Get the Trinity Plus pickup from K&K >>> Sound in Coos Bay (I think it's Coos Bay). The MOST INCREDIBLE >>> sounding acoustic pickup on earth. I've tried them all. Recently >>> installed K&Ks in a bunch of my acoustic guitars and Mike Gillies >>> (Metallica, Motley Crue, Willie Nelson, Celine Dion), who is helping >>> us engineer the Hayley Sales project for Universal Music said, >>> "Amazing! We don't need mic's!" And we have some very nice mic's here. >>> >>> www.kksound.com >>> >>> They have pre amps built in. But I use the Chameleon (Chinese Neve) >>> mic pre (DI) to get a very wicked and wonderful sound. You can get >>> the Chameleon from Pacific Pro Audio. It's very affordable and >>> sweet (around $600-700 USD). Good for vox too. We use it with the >>> Neumann M149 for lead vox. I've CC'd this to Brian at Pacific Pro >>> and Christy at K&K so you can have their email addresses. >>> >> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 02:22:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7BA53BF0B; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 02:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:20:22 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? In-reply-to: <64b81a780604030851v23efd2c8j5f017d7903dc31a1@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <44332966.6000009@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <443139E1.4050205@post.cybercity.dk> <64b81a780604030851v23efd2c8j5f017d7903dc31a1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: <_kMoEB.A.B-D.5nyMEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 02:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Todd Pafford wrote: >My suggestion for hiding tracks on a CD? Don't. > As a radio DJ, I agree. If you want airplay, then you must do everything possible to make your CD user- and radio-friendly as possible. For other tips on maximizing the amount of radio play you'll get, read http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/tips.html and get a real education on the subject. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 02:46:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 217533BF07; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 02:46:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Looperlative & MIDI Pedal Assignment Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:46:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <1a3801c65850$31064400$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 02:46:48 +0000 (UTC) I have mapped record overdub and half speed to the same midi pedal. great if you like to record at different speeds. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:28 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looperlative & MIDI Pedal Assignment I just setup my Behringer to control my LP1...way too easy, though I'm still struggling with mapping my two controller pedals to feedback and volume...it's a problem with the FCB that I need to work out....user error. I just found the solution in the Looperlative Forum. Anyway, for those of you new, and relatively old LP1 users, I'm curious how you are mapping your MIDI pedals to LP1 functions. I'm finding myself slightly overwhelmed by the breadth of options, especially since I like to get everything in one MIDI controller bank (10 buttons). For starters, I have Record/Overdub, Play/Stop, Previous Track, Next Track, Reverse, Half Speed, All Stop, and Erase Track mapped to 8 of my FCB buttons. That leaves two more buttons to map. What are you current users mapping? Maybe I'll program a cool sequence like Reverse and Half-Speed at the same time, etc. If you are using more than one bank, how are you labeling your buttons? I put white electric tape on the top of my buttons, which allows me to write in two functions, one on top and another below it separated by a line. The top functions are for Mobius, and the bottom for the LP1. If I open up another bank for the LP1, I'm essentially out of writing space. Any ideas? I suppose I could create a laminated card of some sort and prop it behind the FCB. Kris p.s. I love the fact that the LP1 doesn't have an input control knob..one less thing for me to worry about. I just set the output from my incoming signal to generate a decent level on the LP1 input level meter. Also, the noise gate was a big surprise! Wow, not that I'll use it, but if I ever have a noise signal path, it will be nice to have there. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 03:07:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B15773BF0B; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 03:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Guitar Preamps Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:06:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604041336g341b5fb5x892d48b906b1df5e@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 03:07:01 +0000 (UTC) I have raved about my Dtar Solstice on a few occasions and I encourage all serious acoustic loopers who need to harness a looper that wants to see line level (repeater, LP-1,EDP) to seriously check this piece out. Not only does it have a master parallel effects loop with front panel blend control, it also has an insert for each of its two channels, Currently I run and EDP and a TC electronics Model one for verb and delay with my Solstice as my acoustic gig rig, with one or two mackie SRM350's. This rig is highly portable and sounds great. Check it out. www.d-tar.com Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 04:36:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D36C03BF0A; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bN/ZWL3trhUQhg8yxBIp1aCrwkKd6L9bAKJA4wB+HyJoT6sLeUR/NxFFlgsm5kNOK7LvutMYRqFp8Rh/wzXgEJHtvBJ0+k65oP3lm3TgfNFHhV7QBTmr8i+hGMRkPs8CsDHW/qbiN+IVMJgg5d5c5tbFikSt3bFY9yXOO+UhYy4= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 00:36:54 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative compared to laptop... In-Reply-To: <005d01c622d0$9bb04400$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <005d01c622d0$9bb04400$0affff0a@hppav> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:36:55 +0000 (UTC) i would like to see some the EDP SUS feature implemented into the LP1. I like this effect alot and would love to have it on the LP1 (i am really thinking bout it). Any chance it will happen? Is it up there on the feature list? On 1/26/06, David Kirkdorffer wrote: > Spot on. Well said. Now, about those black fingernails... :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Lawson" > To: "Loop List" > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:45 PM > Subject: Looperlative compared to laptop... > > > > >>I have high hopes for this unit. The only reason I wouldn't see him > > selling many hundreds of units over a few years is that people might > > just decide to go for a computer and be done with it (and get all the > > other stuff too). But if this works as advertised, it'll beat a > > computer hollow for this one specific purpose...<<< > > > > For me, it already beats a laptop - I just haven't found a laptop > > setup that responds in a way I want it to, one that i'm confident > > won't glitch on me, one where I don't have to look at the screen > > (everyone has their foibles, and one of mine is that I can't be doing > > live music while faffing about with the computer itself...) > > > > Kim once commented that for him, the interest in the Echoplex was all > > about the interface - that's why he wasn't interested in developing a > > software version. That makes perfect sense to me. I'd rather use a > > stack of EDPs than a laptop. But for the way I play, the looperlative > > does pretty much everything I was using my multiple EDPs for with a > > few additions, and it does it in a more stable way than any computer > > set up I've tried. > > > > Someone commented that 'the looperlative will be cool when each > > channel does everything an EDP can do' - for you maybe that's true. > > To me, it's BS. There are loads of things the EDP does that the > > looperlative won't do for a long time - very specific development > > ideas that came from the combined wisdom of Kim and Matthias and the > > others who had input - Andy B, Andre etc - there are things that just > > work great with the architecture of the box, the brother sync > > feature, the specific way it multiplies, and a lot of the granular > > stuff. > > > > A lot of these ideas may inspire looperlative developments - that's > > all down to what people request and what Bob is able to implement, > > and anyone building a looper would be a total fool not to look at the > > feature set of the Echoplex for inspiration - the current software > > loopers are pretty much exact copies of the Echoplex feature set - > > but the LP1 already has a character of its own, it has a different > > architecture, a different hardware model and a whole load of > > potential features that the Echoplex couldn't do because of its > > specific hardware constraints. > > > > It's all good, > > > > Steve > > www.stevelawson.net - site > > www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop > > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 04:39:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21B7D3BECF; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.03,165,1141621200"; d="scan'208"; a="217704240:sNHT32158650" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: emilet@pop.rcn.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 00:28:08 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance -- Immersions 04.08.06-- Rockland MA Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, The next Immersions event will occur on Saturday, at the New Song Arts Center, in Rockland MA. We are on at 9PM, opening is Robin O'Herin Acoustic Gospel and Blues http://www.robinoherin.com at 7:30 PM. It should be an interesting mix. This edition of Immersions will feature myself on video with Dean Stiglitz on Electro Flute and Bob "The Dinosaur King" Trottier on Electro Drums, and perhaps others. The New Song Arts Center is at 76 Park St. Rockland, Ma. 02370-2321 781-335-0249 office or 781-413-7604(cell) www.newsongartscenter.org Its about 10 miles south of the intersection of 128 and 3, get detailed directions from Mapquest. -- "Once the search is in progress, something will be found" -- Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 05:23:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 498EF3BED3; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 05:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MC4tWhCJUTYHrHewtWU+GEqo01WMFiXOHPV04LltQ9fckt5C48JxR+XooEhyUdvWX2TbLM32+A/3tqewo8gj4zzprROknziTEQcK7aBHEvdBOUzJHUNM3/S5MLzG3EcWIgwD5Avbx063dFfYsdLp0vkwNx8PkBkFivsd17WWzUI= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 01:23:58 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Mobius for OSX....ever? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 05:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Will this ever happen!?! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 05:54:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAA803BF06; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 05:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:54:57 -0700 Subject: looping gear for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Scott Drengsen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <44B06327778B0C3DF11D2138@[192.168.1.149]> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Resent-Message-ID: <6gn25C.A.p7D.Gu1MEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 05:54:14 +0000 (UTC) I have a Digitech Space Station 225.00 and a Dl-4 200.00 for sale.. 400.00 for both,buyer pays shipping..Thanks Scott > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 06:23:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC49C3BF0B; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060404234917.59650.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060404234917.59650.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 02:23:16 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Sellon upgraded Jam-Man for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:23:18 +0000 (UTC) The term is 'monaural' and my jam man is the latest sellon upgrade, so it is actually stereo... Sounds great, easy to use... less filling. > >Can't beat the JamMan for pure easy to use monophonic >fun though. I kick myself for selling mine. I loved the way that thing worked... -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 06:48:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D3013BF04; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=cjDQorB5MKrL664bKVtSZJW3m2TqM2oDntTnkeeryhZALxGCjrX1eZkhAef+D89H5fGiWFySmQLQkDfYDQoNMqfx9apEtVb0s0MM2lf9rp5u6WH7zZaP+D/ykcQF0DqjALFZ2qCYEpmWt37w7ZVBAPC7Jq6hvTLCn7c/yY5AjEo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060404203219.20252.qmail@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060404203219.20252.qmail@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <71B70C95-FC19-45D5-A8E6-6D083D3E31FB@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Supersilent (Re: ARVE HENRIKSON) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:48:50 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <8l9FAB.A.ZQF.Xh2MEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:48:55 +0000 (UTC) On 4 apr 2006, at 22.32, Tim Nelson wrote: > Arve is also a member of one of my favorite groups: > Supersilent. If anyone on this list hasn't heard them, > you definitely should! Haven't heard them yet. But with a band name like that they must be smashing!!! Thanks for the tip :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 07:14:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58D7C3BED5; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=AgqY1eHEN23DBgTNIUmMvOuuZk4A4HoUyMjn4o6D50xgHswWUNVfksbXmw0kWhSw5txbqV/pH97RvCfQQo7flNpOuNSnbwDy3XZgtRnGw00bK91PWwjw+vC2AUEGMwS6Z6qLqfIX0m+9LBOCu22LACLZTWzWPeqR8eKV+1ENEq0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Mobius for OSX....ever? Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:14:02 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:14:09 +0000 (UTC) On 5 apr 2006, at 07.23, mark t wrote: > Will this ever happen!?! I've also been asking that question. It seems more probable that the opposite scenario will happen sooner; that we may eventually boot the new Mactels into XP to run Mobius. Personally I would like that better because it would let Jeff stay focused on developing the application, not loosing time on the OS X porting procedure. It doesn't feel all efficient to me having to keep an XP machine only for Mobius when almost all the music production tools I'm using is running best under OS X. I'm totally enthusiastic with the new mac boxes that use Intel processors. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 08:37:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D1C03BF0B; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5xGkh+eDpHpujjVRjfaZXKiwGu4iVio6wEfmzBciFdDN9hkMMFi+u3U4GWy71SBtEMSGoP6GxSo4manmcYWB9KF4AzsF7OqDW/ZxPFglQPbeRF71Bt5Ef8xOxgCHKsBLuOIBpNTn+5SnwxKRVXj9oz20vopcN1/UsiAgYGy7iJ4= ; Message-ID: <20060405083742.49191.qmail@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 01:37:42 -0700 (PDT) From: grw20022 Subject: Re: looping gear for sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-35424077-1144226262=:48624" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3ifyCC.A.KoH.XH4MEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:37:44 +0000 (UTC) --0-35424077-1144226262=:48624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit would you like to swap trade you Digitech space station for a programable yamaha DX5 midi drum machine with reverse and latin percussion ROM card with manual..I live in the USA NH 03102 Scott Drengsen wrote: I have a Digitech Space Station 225.00 and a Dl-4 200.00 for sale.. 400.00 for both,buyer pays shipping..Thanks Scott > > --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. --0-35424077-1144226262=:48624-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 08:45:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C0AD3BF06; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20060405014220.0c71aaa0@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 01:45:23 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Guitar Preamps In-Reply-To: References: <64b81a780604041336g341b5fb5x892d48b906b1df5e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:45:36 +0000 (UTC) At 08:06 PM 4/4/2006, William Walker wrote: >I have raved about my Dtar Solstice on a few occasions and I encourage all >serious acoustic loopers who need to harness a looper that wants to see line >level (repeater, LP-1,EDP) The Echoplex gain structure supports instrument and line levels, both input and output. You may want a preamp for tonal reasons, but you don't need it for gain reasons with the EDP. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 09:51:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96FBA3BF07; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAADkuM0SILSw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060405093709.02d986d0@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:48:42 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) In-Reply-To: <20060404195638.4C58D3BF29@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060404195638.4C58D3BF29@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8_U4iB.A.JuB.bM5MEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:51:23 +0000 (UTC) At 20:56 04/04/06, you wrote: >>The educational/academic establishments now promote music which >>"most people don't consider music". > > >they do? i can't think of an educational establishment promoting >someone like Merzbow or Pita, even Einsutrzende Neubaten or La Mont >Young, an art-mag darling. (well, maybe La Mont...) In UK the academic music scene seems full of atonal stuff. and of course MAX/MSP. So while they don't support your favourite pop=20 bands, they still manage to favour music that=20 doesn't immediately appeal to the majority. >they promote so- called "new music" (Philip=20 >Glass), basically classical music updated >a little. > it's still tied to all the previous pseudo-scientific >"rules" from the 18th century of music theory. most people might not >like it, but i suspect they consider it music. you'd be surprised, my music was called "that's=20 not jazz, that's not even music" quite recently. >it's simply a class >differentiation (or education difference, or degree of indoctrination >some might say) for people to appreciate Mozart or Varese or >Stockhausen instead of The Gypsy Kings or the Rolling Stones. Isn't that the sort of statement that would look=20 better with a bit of supporting evidence? ;-) I'd make an equally unsupported statement that=20 there's a vast majority of people who would never like Stockhausen however much they were encouraged. >. some things are quite different and others not so >much... a Kurt Schwitters sound-poem from 1920 is still pretty >radical, http://www.ubu.com/sound/schwitters.html amazing how musical Schwitters performance is. Just by listening, I'd assume his intention was to make beautiful sounds. >i think Attali's point about a future stage of "composers" (which he >wrote 30 years ago), where the former passive consumer of music, >whose main function was a capitalistic one of purchasing recordings >of music, instead in some fashion creates (or 'composes') their own >music has proved somewhat accurate. he could not forsee PodCasts, >file sharing, mash-ups, ableton Live, and so on, but given his >remoteness his prescience seems remarkable. so you think capitalists are turning into artists=20 because they can take someone else's music and re-sample it? >i think people who don't "believe" in politics are playing into the >hands of those systems who would control us. Where are these people who don't believe in politics? We all believe that the government exists. (=20 possibly not Klobucher...who can tell) Rather there are people who believe that politics=20 is the government of a country. ( oh, and the study of the government of a country) > at least privately realize the political ramifications >of their participation in the world in all its aspects, and not to >deny these things. The government of the country you live in won't=20 be influenced by the music that you play. >my semi-coherent 2-cent rambling, once again ;) and mine ;-) apologies for bandwidth >- you will now be returned to your regular broadcast >-3nki At 20:56 04/04/06, you wrote: >pol=B7i=B7tics (pl-tks) >n. >The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a just quoting loads of stuff doesn't make a case. There's plenty of dictionaries that connect politics with government. The Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, so how do we know you didn't just= change it before quoting it :-) If "everything is political", then the word "politics" becomes useless. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 09:56:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B7993BF07; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <014a01c65897$3aad26d0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20060404234917.59650.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Lighting Idea for Loopers! Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:56:35 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:56:48 +0000 (UTC) http://enlighted.com/pages/clear.shtml Is anyone else here old enough to remember the 'electric dress'? Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 10:22:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65DB13BF0B; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 5 Apr 2006 10:31:02 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "-Aaron -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:31:02 -0500 Subject: >>>Any one selling an EDP??? X-Originating-Ip: 202.87.173.132 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20060405103102.9FD9A83C0C@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:22:53 +0000 (UTC) It's hard to get them (read impossible) in Australia. Would rather buy of a fellow loop artist than off EvilBay. So, does anyone want to move a unit? Cheers ~Aaron --=20 ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 10:35:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3C313BF07; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <015201c6589c$a40bff70$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20060404195638.4C58D3BF29@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405093709.02d986d0@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:35:19 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:35:34 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "a k butler" To: Sent: Wednesday, 05 April, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > At 20:56 04/04/06, you wrote: > >>i think Attali's point about a future stage of "composers" (which he >>wrote 30 years ago), where the former passive consumer of music, >>whose main function was a capitalistic one of purchasing recordings >>of music, instead in some fashion creates (or 'composes') their own >>music has proved somewhat accurate. he could not forsee PodCasts, >>file sharing, mash-ups, ableton Live, and so on, but given his >>remoteness his prescience seems remarkable. > > so you think capitalists are turning into artists because they can take > someone else's music and re-sample it? I would put forth that they're not really "artists" per se, but then my dividing line between "creatives" and "non-creatives" tends to be well-defined. Resampled material is one of those items that creates firefights on this newsletter, but it's just not on the same level of artistic endeavor as original music is. A "mash-up" of Bowie's "Ashes to Ashes" is not an original song, although whatever resampling/remixing done might be original in nature. The area of what "art" is, is currently blurred, thanks to the flux period we're going through regarding what music production/creation/composition/performance "is". I'm confident that at a point in the future real artists will emerge from the current melange of material, but for now they get either smothered, reconverted or outright shelved by big music companies, who still don't Get It. >>i think people who don't "believe" in politics are playing into the >>hands of those systems who would control us. > > Where are these people who don't believe in politics? I don't "believe" in politics, as a one-size-fits-all solution to anything. But I've gone over this before already, and can balance it out with the statement "I hate politics, and I hate it even more when I have to participate." Democracy is like that, in that it requires participation by as many as possible. So perhaps it could be said that, as Afghanis find their way to democracy, the big record companies will find their way to being able to both discover and distribute creative 'product' someday - else their roles will become one of distribution and marketing. (I don't think they can see this coming any more than they anticipated P2P, the Internet, or portable music devices) > We all believe that the government exists. ( possibly not Klobucher...who > can tell) > Rather there are people who believe that politics is the government of a > country. > ( oh, and the study of the government of a country) > >> at least privately realize the political ramifications >>of their participation in the world in all its aspects, and not to >>deny these things. > > The government of the country you live in won't be influenced by the music > that you play. Yep, unless the country's small. Then you never know! > just quoting loads of stuff doesn't make a case. > There's plenty of dictionaries that connect politics with government. > The Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, so how do we know you didn't just > change > it before quoting it :-) > > If "everything is political", then the word "politics" becomes useless. Shh! We need someplace for political addicts to go to when we don't need them! :) Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 12:07:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8171F3BF07; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation-Mail-From: loopersdelight@swyatt.com via u15184937 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(88.109.254.225):SA:0(-0.9/5.0):. Processed in 3.777071 secs Process 28562) Message-ID: <4433B301.1090108@swyatt.com> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:07:29 +0100 From: Stuart Wyatt User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Multiple midi expression pedals? References: <20060404195638.4C58D3BF29@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405093709.02d986d0@tiscali.co.uk> <015201c6589c$a40bff70$0207a8c0@eluk1> In-Reply-To: <015201c6589c$a40bff70$0207a8c0@eluk1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0614-1, 04/04/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <8cR47C.A.P7E.MM7MEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:07:40 +0000 (UTC) I'm looking for a solution that will give me up to 8 midi assignable expression pedals, so that I can control track volumes individually on Live and Mobius. I've been doing a fair amount of looking, and haven't come across anything suitable so far. Does a piece of equipment exist that will allow this? - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 12:16:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4500C3BF01; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20060405121626867.D3CB61C00180@mwinf0203.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <4433B516.9090206@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:16:22 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) References: <20060331212114.39831.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4430E65D.8040204@addcom.de> <001901c65716$41f1cae0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <64b81a780604030825p61415d68wc4a167128f3ae8d6@mail.gmail.com> <44314558.8010809@swyatt.com> In-Reply-To: <44314558.8010809@swyatt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Stuart Wyatt wrote: > ...So could someone please tell me which chords are left wing, and which > chords are right wing? And are there any cadences that have true > communist beliefs? Thats very easy, come on, major chords are conservative, minor chords are communist and anything else is the ticket for Guantanamo... Just don't play them in public! Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 12:32:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B6B03BF0D; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [132.185.240.121] X-Originating-Email: [simeonharris@hotmail.com] X-Sender: simeonharris@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <4433B301.1090108@swyatt.com> From: "simeon harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Multiple midi expression pedals? Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:31:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2006 12:31:58.0230 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE4D4B60:01C658AC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:32:02 +0000 (UTC) >From: Stuart Wyatt I'm looking for a solution that will give me up to 8 >midi assignable expression pedals, so that I can control track volumes >individually on Live and Mobius. I've been doing a fair amount of looking, >and haven't come across anything suitable so far. > >Does a piece of equipment exist that will allow this? most midi floorboards will allow you to plug in a few expression pedals, but i havn't seen one that has 8 inputs.. maybe you might consider something like the m-audio uc-33e... http://www.maudio.co.uk/products/en_gb/UC33e-main.html sim www.simeonharris.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 12:36:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CC393BF01; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [132.185.240.120] X-Originating-Email: [simeonharris@hotmail.com] X-Sender: simeonharris@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <4433B301.1090108@swyatt.com> From: "simeon harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: london laptoppers? Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:36:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2006 12:36:34.0286 (UTC) FILETIME=[92D818E0:01C658AD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:36:35 +0000 (UTC) hi there - i'm looking for any loopy / glitchy / ableton-y / reason-y / laptop artists (not guitar or bass players) in the london area who might want to hook up with a soundscapey guitarist (that's me) i have a long midi cable email me! sim www.simeonharris.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 12:37:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA01A3BF0D; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004c01c658ad$ad91fc50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Lighting Idea for Loopers! Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 05:37:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Very cool idea but hella expensive. They charge $10 per LED and the vinyl suits have hundreds of LEDs in them potentially. I did the math and it depressed me. Guess I'm gonna stick to cheesy old UV art with my outfits............lol. Rick Walker Stephen wrote: http://enlighted.com/pages/clear.shtml Is anyone else here old enough to remember the 'electric dress'? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 12:38:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74E403BF14; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4433BA43.6080207@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:38:27 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Multiple midi expression pedals? References: <20060404195638.4C58D3BF29@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405093709.02d986d0@tiscali.co.uk> <015201c6589c$a40bff70$0207a8c0@eluk1> <4433B301.1090108@swyatt.com> In-Reply-To: <4433B301.1090108@swyatt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Stuart Wyatt wrote: > I'm looking for a solution that will give me up to 8 midi assignable > expression pedals, so that I can control track volumes individually on > Live and Mobius. I've been doing a fair amount of looking, and haven't > come across anything suitable so far. > > Does a piece of equipment exist that will allow this? > This one: http://www.eowave.com/page_produit?prod=29 with 8 of these: http://www.eowave.com/page_produit.php?prod=12 (the foot pedals can most likely be found cheaper elsewhere, though.) Also, Ircam are coming out with a new set of products that will do what you want, and for simple applications this will do what you want: http://eroktronix.com/ andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 12:56:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F9EA3BF17; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RMvpS82eJNTovK/HHFPxwEnglLt/hhxSKt5K2GCGxELvYvlzK4tL/iCmNSV1z/OKYQRHE3baZ/t4WW6Wt9vykUgYCaop0jp43I+IuPmXxWAZ79nOya9IKC9SH1K0n51Jg4MiY3zlielFB6opK/7oyqD16qKgjqyOPxeHPmCaCoA= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604050556x2c937cedgfdcfac51073d8a9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:56:44 +0100 From: "David Morton" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius for OSX....ever? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:56:46 +0000 (UTC) On 4/5/06, Per Boysen wrote: > On 5 apr 2006, at 07.23, mark t wrote: > > Will this ever happen!?! > > I've also been asking that question. It seems more probable that the > opposite scenario will happen sooner; that we may eventually boot the > new Mactels into XP to run Mobius. The official Apple supported mechanism for this is in public beta now: http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 13:06:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9567C3BF10; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <26355792.1144242406488.JavaMail.root@web26> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 6:06:46 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sellon upgraded Jam-Man for sale Cc: Charles Zwicky MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <_1AXm.A.SvG.nD8MEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:06:47 +0000 (UTC) What are you asking for the unit? THX. -- Paul Richards ---- Charles Zwicky wrote: > The term is 'monaural' and my jam man is the latest sellon upgrade, > so it is actually stereo... > Sounds great, easy to use... less filling. > > > > >Can't beat the JamMan for pure easy to use monophonic > >fun though. I kick myself for selling mine. I loved > the way that thing worked... > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 13:10:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D0E53BF16; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:07:21 +0000 From: "Fluke" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: "Fluke" Subject: Re: Multiple midi expression pedals? X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: UebiMiau 2.7.2 X-Original-IP: 62.3.215.194 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MSMail-Priority: Medium Importance: Medium Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20060405130725.3E19133B2B1@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <2k0QP.A.g4G.3G8MEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:10:16 +0000 (UTC) >From memmory, the Roland FC200 floorboard accepts a number of expression pedals - maybe as many as eight.... I checked: 6 external expression pedals and one on board. Nik --------- Original Message -------- From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Multiple midi expression pedals? Date: 05/04/06 12:07 I'm looking for a solution that will give me up to 8 midi assignable expression pedals, so that I can control track volumes individually on Live and Mobius. I've been doing a fair amount of looking, and haven't come across anything suitable so far. Does a piece of equipment exist that will allow this? - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 13:52:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2C5C3BF06; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:53:24 -0700 Subject: Re: >>>Any one selling an EDP??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Scott Drengsen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20060405103102.9FD9A83C0C@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-Id: <8D07EEC9-C4AB-11DA-A094-00050263BC96@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Resent-Message-ID: <1ULVNC.A.KN.pu8MEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) I'm going to be selling both of mine this week.blackface gibsons loop 4 and the footpedal..E-mail me off list-Thanks, scott On Wednesday, April 5, 2006, at 03:31 AM, -Aaron - wrote: > It's hard to get them (read impossible) in Australia. > Would rather buy of a fellow loop artist than off EvilBay. > So, does anyone want to move a unit? > Cheers > ~Aaron > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 14:39:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C70F3BF0A; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1b4301c658be$c84d2f90$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <170ED987-B60D-4971-816D-EC0CC159DA9A@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: loop interview podcast Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:39:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=263072, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Good grief...that is an absurdly long URL. Here's the Tiny URL version: http://tinyurl.com/r43zo Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zoe Keating" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: loop interview podcast >I recorded this little podcast interview in January after a show in > Detroit. The interview starts after a piece of music. I'm forwarding > it to the list it because I talk a little about gear issues and what > it's like to deal with them onstage in front of an audience! Here you > go... > > http://archive-b01.libsyn.com/podcasts/barhopsessions/ > bar_hop_sessions_show__2_-_with_your_host_Greater_Alexander.mp3? > lneeeMV1bHmTdmt%2BbXNtq2urlHOY > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 15:04:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EED4B3BF05; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Mobius for OSX....ever? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:04:40 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C03B72A@keel.sailpoint.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mobius for OSX....ever? Thread-Index: AcZYcSUeB/m97/LdSJq9Ll9RVmX1RQAUB7tQ From: "jeff larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:04:48 +0000 (UTC) > From: mark t [mailto:aleatoric12@gmail.com]=20 >=20 > Will this ever happen!?! It may, but it isn't a priority right now. I have a rather long list of features for the looping engine I would like to finish first. At some point, it will need a complete redesign of the user interface, and at that point I'll look at a Mac port. But it will probably be another year. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 16:25:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F4E73BF01; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <228.9715783.31654953@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:24:51 EDT Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_228.9715783.31654953_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:25:14 +0000 (UTC) --part1_228.9715783.31654953_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/5/06 5:51:40 AM, akbutler@tiscali.co.uk writes: > > (possibly not Klobucher...who can tell) > and to think you had free range of the american embassy in zurick!.....:)m p.s. who is the goof that said your tunes were not music.....why i oughta! www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_228.9715783.31654953_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/5/06 5:51:40 AM, akbutler@tiscali.co.uk writes:



(possibly not Klobucher...who can tell)


and to think you had free range of the american embassy in zurick!.....:)= m
p.s. who is the goof that said your tunes were not music.....why i oughta!


www.ct-collective.com
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11
 --part1_228.9715783.31654953_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 16:44:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E10CF3BEFC; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Guitar Preamps Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:44:32 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060405014220.0c71aaa0@loopers-delight.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:44:33 +0000 (UTC) OK Smarty Pants I knew that, Gosh you act like you helped design the damn thing,,oh wait, you did!!!! Actually I was referring to the fact that The EDP sounds better in a parallel loop as apposed to running strait in to it, For purity of tone, this is the way to go. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@loopers-delight.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 1:45 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Guitar Preamps At 08:06 PM 4/4/2006, William Walker wrote: >I have raved about my Dtar Solstice on a few occasions and I encourage all >serious acoustic loopers who need to harness a looper that wants to see line >level (repeater, LP-1,EDP) The Echoplex gain structure supports instrument and line levels, both input and output. You may want a preamp for tonal reasons, but you don't need it for gain reasons with the EDP. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 16:51:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80E0E3BF0A; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3nki@modaldub.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <015201c6589c$a40bff70$0207a8c0@eluk1> References: <20060404195638.4C58D3BF29@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405093709.02d986d0@tiscali.co.uk> <015201c6589c$a40bff70$0207a8c0@eluk1> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:51:11 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - space.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - modaldub.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:51:22 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 5, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "a k butler" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, 05 April, 2006 10:48 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) > > >> At 20:56 04/04/06, you wrote: >> >>> i think Attali's point about a future stage of "composers" (which he >>> wrote 30 years ago), where the former passive consumer of music, >>> whose main function was a capitalistic one of purchasing recordings >>> of music, instead in some fashion creates (or 'composes') their own >>> music has proved somewhat accurate. he could not forsee PodCasts, >>> file sharing, mash-ups, ableton Live, and so on, but given his >>> remoteness his prescience seems remarkable. >> >> so you think capitalists are turning into artists because they can >> take someone else's music and re-sample it? > > I would put forth that they're not really "artists" per se, but > then my dividing line between "creatives" and "non-creatives" tends > to be well-defined. Resampled material is one of those items that > creates firefights on this newsletter, but it's just not on the > same level of artistic endeavor as original music is. A "mash-up" > of Bowie's "Ashes to Ashes" is not an original song, although > whatever resampling/remixing done might be original in nature. The > area of what "art" is, is currently blurred, thanks to the flux > period we're going through regarding what music production/creation/ > composition/performance "is". I'm confident that at a point in the > future real artists will emerge from the current melange of > material, but for now they get either smothered, reconverted or > outright shelved by big music companies, who still don't Get It. > the point is not wether or not, or how, creative a mash-up or sampling or something is. the point is that the "consumer", or the "listener", is changing in that he is less passive. instead of just buying a recording he is making something at least a bit more his own, more individual. > >>> i think people who don't "believe" in politics are playing into the >>> hands of those systems who would control us. >> >> Where are these people who don't believe in politics? > > I don't "believe" in politics, as a one-size-fits-all solution to > anything. But I've gone over this before already, and can balance > it out with the statement "I hate politics, and I hate it even more > when I have to participate." Democracy is like that, in that it > requires participation by as many as possible. So perhaps it could > be said that, as Afghanis find their way to democracy, the big > record companies will find their way to being able to both discover > and distribute creative 'product' someday - else their roles will > become one of distribution and marketing. (I don't think they can > see this coming any more than they anticipated P2P, the Internet, > or portable music devices) > politics is the interrelations among people. if you live, you are participating, wether you like it or not. maybe not well, maybe not for the good of your fellows or even yourself, but that's a different question... >> We all believe that the government exists. ( possibly not >> Klobucher...who can tell) >> Rather there are people who believe that politics is the >> government of a country. >> ( oh, and the study of the government of a country) >> >>> at least privately realize the political ramifications >>> of their participation in the world in all its aspects, and not to >>> deny these things. >> >> The government of the country you live in won't be influenced by >> the music that you play. > > Yep, unless the country's small. Then you never know! > these things work on the level of a society, over generations, not one person here or there. look at historical examples. why was God Save the Queen banned from the radio? >> just quoting loads of stuff doesn't make a case. >> There's plenty of dictionaries that connect politics with government. >> The Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, so how do we know you >> didn't just change >> it before quoting it :-) >> >> If "everything is political", then the word "politics" becomes >> useless. > > Shh! We need someplace for political addicts to go to when we > don't need them! :) > Stephen Goodman someone asked for a definition of politics so i provided several from several different online sources. if you read the definitions you will see that "everything" is not political. such denial of responsibility some people have! speaking of quotations i am reminded of a few relevant ones: "If voting could make a difference it would be illegal." - Theodore Adorno "Now that I look back, I realize that a life predicated on being obedient is a very comfortable life indeed. Living in such a way reduces to a minimum one's own need to think." - Adolf Eichmann (Memoirs, written after 1960 kidnapping by Israel for WWII atrocities) "The ideals which have always shone before me and filled me with the joy of living are goodness, beauty, and truth. To make a goal of comfort or happiness has never appealed to me; a system of ethics built on this basis would be sufficient only for a herd of cattle." - Albert Einstein "Let no one imagine that in owning a recording he has the music." - John Cage, Silence, p.128 "Theatre takes place all the time wherever one is and art simply facilitates persuading one this is the case." - John Cage, Silence, p. 174 "If you steal my horse I can't ride, but if you steal my song I can still sing it." - Unknown "Anarchy doesnt mean no rules, it means no rulers." - Edward Abbey "The truth is there is an ideological struggle between those who believe that the best way to grow the economy is to give more money to the wealthy, and the Democrats who believe that the wealthy will make more money if average people do better." - President Bill Clinton "Talk of democracy has little content when big business rules the life of the country through its control of the means of production, exchange, the press and other means of publicity, propaganda and communication." - John Dewey "Some people giving orders and others obeying them: this is the essence of servitude. Of course, as Hospers smugly observes, "one can at least change jobs," but you can't avoid having a job -- just as under statism one can at least change nationalities but you can't avoid subjection to one nation-state or another. But freedom means more than the right to change masters." - Bob Black (Source: The Libertarian As Conservative, 1984) "The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in times of moral crisis preserve their neutrality." -- Dante From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 17:00:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67FD53BEF8; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4433B301.1090108@swyatt.com> References: <20060404195638.4C58D3BF29@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405093709.02d986d0@tiscali.co.uk> <015201c6589c$a40bff70$0207a8c0@eluk1> <4433B301.1090108@swyatt.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:59:32 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Multiple midi expression pedals? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <9qvE5D.A.wiF.2e_MEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:00:39 +0000 (UTC) The Rolls "Midi Wizard" MP1288 has 8 expression pedal inputs. >I'm looking for a solution that will give me up to 8 midi assignable >expression pedals, so that I can control track volumes individually >on Live and Mobius. I've been doing a fair amount of looking, and >haven't come across anything suitable so far. > >Does a piece of equipment exist that will allow this? > >- Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 17:03:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AE1B3BF0D; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3nki@modaldub.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> Subject: Noise Pancakes in the news! Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:03:14 -0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - space.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - modaldub.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:03:23 +0000 (UTC) definitely worth reading: http://www.sfweekly.com/Issues/2006-03-15/listenup/listenfeat3_full.html excerpt: It's Saturday morning in San Francisco. Across the city, scenesters sit bleary-eyed in diners, sucking greasy spoons and mainlining caffeine. But in an airy loft in the dirty heart of the Mission, 30 people of various ages are chatting brightly, paper plates in hands and on knees, carving into vegan gingerbread pancakes, and taking in some utterly brutal electronic live music. This is "Godwaffle Noise Pancakes," a monthly gathering for fans of gourmet griddle fare and sonic violence. [ ... ] Noise is about the transitory joy and pain that unfold at each performance, whether during the sweaty electronic terror of the national scene's current ambassadors to the mainstream, Wolf Eyes; the gore-pop of Spider Compass Goodcrime Band; or the manipulated- feedback monsoon of Bacillus, who appears on the Postscript DVD in a full biohazard get-up, the necessity of which becomes clear when he steps into the audience and releases some powdery viruses into the air. It's also wonderful to see music made by people who couldn't give a shit about making any money. A noise artist will never get a record deal, despite the fact that he will likely invest hundreds of dollars in laptops, tape machines, sound processors, musical instruments, effects pedals, and anal beads. At today's "Noise Pancakes," the watchers are made up of young hipsters, scruffy old metal dudes, middle-aged art types, and a small phalanx of pretty UC Berkeley undergrads doing some sort of "research." In a corner, a young couple placidly sits on a couch reading the newspaper while Noel Von Harmonson (from local garage- psych band Comets on Fire) unleashes a thunderous solo set not three feet away. In broad daylight, in full view of the Financial District, urbanely eating pancakes, it feels like we are winning a little war. Against what it's unclear, but the fight is delightful. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 17:20:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A38653BF11; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:28:32 -0400 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: Re: LP1/FCB1010 To: Message-id: <001b01c658d6$5cd757a0$44fea344@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <8CFC07C2-02EF-4F8E-83B2-3CB42BFFF02E@steve-lawson.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Steve - What you describe is very interesting. For the sake of conversation, let's call the sequence of events you describe below that are executable with one button-push as "The Lawson Maneuver." Can I only program one set of chained events this way into the Looperlative, or could I program in The Lawson Maneuver" and add others, like a "Kirkdorffer Maneuver," a "Trick Number 3" and "Trick number 4" etc. If I can add other multi-chained events, is there a limit? David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: LP1/FCB1010 > >>>actually if you want to start doing more advanced stuff with the > LP-1 > > I think the FCB1010 manual starts to come in handy again. > > For instance, if you want to start recording on a Multiplied track > > right away. > > That requires sending 2 midi commands from one pedal.<<< > > Unless I'm missing what you're saying here, Andy, that can be done > with just the programming in the LP1 - you can program up to 8 > different functions to happen simultaneously and in order onto any > one button. > > So you could have a button that closed the current loop, switched to > the next loop, sync'd it, multipled it to four times the original > length and started it recording. All without having to do anything on > the foot controller except press the button. > > :o) > > Steve > www.stevelawson.net - site > www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 17:47:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 436B73BEFE; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1aa.493e87e2.31655cad@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:47:25 EDT Subject: startup disk question (mac) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1aa.493e87e2.31655cad_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:47:29 +0000 (UTC) --part1_1aa.493e87e2.31655cad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i just received 2 new cds from mighty tim nelson today (THNAKS TIM!), i will give my thoughts later after giving them a good listen.....when installing these cds into my i-tunes (i use an eMac) a sign came up "your start-up disc is almost full, start deleating files".....any mac users out there that can tell me what to do about this.....i'm at a loss as usual.....thnaks mucho.....m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_1aa.493e87e2.31655cad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i just received 2 new cds from mighty t= im nelson today (THNAKS TIM!), i will give my thoughts later after giving th= em a good listen.....when installing these cds into my i-tunes (i use an eMa= c) a sign came up "your start-up disc is almost full, start deleating files"= .....any mac users out there that can tell me what to do about this.....i'm=20= at a loss as usual.....thnaks mucho.....m



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 --part1_1aa.493e87e2.31655cad_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:11:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 502263BEF7; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2+XjDywmerci/UNywUB7lTWzKPhNBsBxC5C9M0bBz8m02GW4r5nZ2QVx7yEh6R/r8vuy8yGQ58THfqFJZM5Fzx0657j1G3XFDnKwbgSORHJTet+lB3JB/QdxYWXqe/GWqEb299R6j9Dw5bieQQro5YpSD/H71tbfx/CNzJPJUYw= ; Message-ID: <20060405181111.9422.qmail@web37808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ariel Rzezak Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2066941572-1144260671=:8595" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:11:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-2066941572-1144260671=:8595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nice bunch of lawyers you've chosen... Great quotations.. 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> wrote: someone asked for a definition of politics so i provided several from several different online sources. if you read the definitions you will see that "everything" is not political. such denial of responsibility some people have! speaking of quotations i am reminded of a few relevant ones: "If voting could make a difference it would be illegal." - Theodore Adorno "Now that I look back, I realize that a life predicated on being obedient is a very comfortable life indeed. Living in such a way reduces to a minimum one's own need to think." - Adolf Eichmann (Memoirs, written after 1960 kidnapping by Israel for WWII atrocities) "The ideals which have always shone before me and filled me with the joy of living are goodness, beauty, and truth. To make a goal of comfort or happiness has never appealed to me; a system of ethics built on this basis would be sufficient only for a herd of cattle." - Albert Einstein "Let no one imagine that in owning a recording he has the music." - John Cage, Silence, p.128 "Theatre takes place all the time wherever one is and art simply facilitates persuading one this is the case." - John Cage, Silence, p. 174 "If you steal my horse I can't ride, but if you steal my song I can still sing it." - Unknown "Anarchy doesnt mean no rules, it means no rulers." - Edward Abbey "The truth is there is an ideological struggle between those who believe that the best way to grow the economy is to give more money to the wealthy, and the Democrats who believe that the wealthy will make more money if average people do better." - President Bill Clinton "Talk of democracy has little content when big business rules the life of the country through its control of the means of production, exchange, the press and other means of publicity, propaganda and communication." - John Dewey "Some people giving orders and others obeying them: this is the essence of servitude. Of course, as Hospers smugly observes, "one can at least change jobs," but you can't avoid having a job -- just as under statism one can at least change nationalities but you can't avoid subjection to one nation-state or another. But freedom means more than the right to change masters." - Bob Black (Source: The Libertarian As Conservative, 1984) "The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in times of moral crisis preserve their neutrality." -- Dante Ariel Rzezak Buenos Aires, Argentina http://www.soundclick.com/arielrzezak/ --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --0-2066941572-1144260671=:8595 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Nice bunch of lawyers you've chosen...
 
Great quotations..

3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> wrote:
someone asked for a definition of politics so i provided several from
several different online sources. if you read the definitions you
will see that "everything" is not political.

such denial of responsibility some people have!


speaking of quotations i am reminded of a few relevant ones:


"If voting could make a difference it would be illegal." - Theodore
Adorno

"Now that I look back, I realize that a life predicated on being
obedient is a very comfortable life indeed. Living in such a way
reduces to a minimum one's own need to think." - Adolf Eichmann
(Memoirs, written after 1960 kidnapping by Israel for WWII atrocities)

"The ideals which have always shone before me and filled me with the
joy of living are goodness, beauty, and truth. To make a goal of
comfort or happiness has never appealed to me; a system of ethics
built on this basis would be sufficient only for a herd of cattle." -
Albert Einstein

"Let no one imagine that in owning a recording he has the music." -
John Cage, Silence, p.128

"Theatre takes place all the time wherever one is and art simply
facilitates persuading one this is the case." - John Cage, Silence, p.
174

"If you steal my horse I can't ride, but if you steal my song I can
still sing it." - Unknown

"Anarchy doesnt mean no rules, it means no rulers." - Edward Abbey

"The truth is there is an ideological struggle between those who
believe that the best way to grow the economy is to give more money
to the wealthy, and the Democrats who believe that the wealthy will
make more money if average people do better." - President Bill Clinton

"Talk of democracy has little content when big business rules the
life of the country through its control of the means of production,
exchange, the press and other means of publicity, propaganda and
communication." - John Dewey

"Some people giving orders and others obeying them: this is the
essence of servitude. Of course, as Hospers smugly observes, "one can
at least change jobs," but you can't avoid having a job -- just as
under statism one can at least change nationalities but you can't
avoid subjection to one nation-state or another. But freedom means
more than the right to change masters." - Bob Black (Source: The
Libertarian As Conservative, 1984)

"The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in times of
moral crisis preserve their neutrality." -- Dante






Ariel Rzezak
Buenos Aires, Argentina
http://www.soundclick.com/arielrzezak/

New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --0-2066941572-1144260671=:8595-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:20:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B36EE3BF08; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-72.messagelabs.com!1144261218!23723764!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9055@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: lexicon vs electrix (was Jam-Man for sale) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:20:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C658DD.96C027B0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:20:21 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C658DD.96C027B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>As an owner of both, I have to say I've found it to be the exact opposite.... Damn that annoying click when it's MIDI synced though.<< we shall be forever citing this thread as an example of YMMV..... not knowing the setups that the aforementioned devices are living in, I can only add that our jam-mans have never made any noise, hiss hum or click, that we've noticed here, & they're always midi-clocked. the repeaters, on the other hand, seem to be prone to cumulative noise almost like a pair of revoxes.... unless you are really careful with the gain structure. the line inputs on the back are the suckiest, noise-wise. the jack on the front is relatively quiet, as is the insert-return input. has anyone tried using it with a record deck directly into it's RIAA preamp? d. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated, nor does this message form any part of any contract unless so stated. MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct and appropriate use of MTV communication equipment. MTV Networks Europe *************************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C658DD.96C027B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: lexicon vs electrix (was Jam-Man for sale)

>>As an owner of both, I have to say I've found it = to be the exact opposite.... Damn that annoying click when it's MIDI synced= though.<<

we shall be forever citing this thread as an example of Y= MMV..... not knowing the setups that the aforementioned devices are living = in, I can only add that our jam-mans have never made any noise, hiss hum or= click, that we've noticed here, & they're always midi-clocked. the rep= eaters, on the other hand, seem to be prone to cumulative noise almost like= a pair of revoxes.... unless you are really careful with the gain structur= e.

the line inputs on the back are the suckiest, noise-wise.= the jack on the front is relatively quiet, as is the insert-return input. =

has anyone tried using it with a record deck directly int= o it's RIAA preamp?

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C658DD.96C027B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:22:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88F233BF18; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0U3IqXcbr33ctjW61um2LSM7whWQjQcUuCzL13DIabrJIHnCkRy/ayJJf7efY9vS49G1qW+/+vQdvdoB0WekGnBGiBLDtZFWJBxOQMvF2IzowbrPQXRDtX7mmjOwmxl8jfiMOsU5bsSbJjhU1y6uT4b1INo6UIPyZ1/qSC6VSz8= ; Message-ID: <20060405182200.46679.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:22:00 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: Lighting Idea for Loopers! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <004c01c658ad$ad91fc50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:22:01 +0000 (UTC) i dont know why im giving this one up?there is a lot of cool stuff at www.glowsouce.com. we all need a pair of light up maracas.the cosmic spaghetti looks very versitile.everything they have is cool as the dark side of the moon.i wanted to keep this site to myself but i share it as a gift to the list.:-} still scary. --- "loop.pool" wrote: > Very cool idea but hella expensive. > > They charge $10 per LED and the vinyl suits have > hundreds of LEDs in them > potentially. > I did the math and it depressed me. > > Guess I'm gonna stick to cheesy old UV art with my > outfits............lol. > > Rick Walker > > > Stephen wrote: > http://enlighted.com/pages/clear.shtml > Is anyone else here old enough to remember the > 'electric dress'? > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:22:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 202E13BF1B; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-71.messagelabs.com!1144261356!25437411!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9056@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: startup disk question (mac) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:22:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C658DD.E8690050" Resent-Message-ID: <1UofsB.A.rR.urANEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:22:39 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C658DD.E8690050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>a sign came up "your start-up disc is almost full, start deleating files".....any mac users out there that can tell me what to do about this..... << that's very odd. what OS? try googling the expression.... sounds a bit suspicious to me, & un-mac-like. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. 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>>a sign came up "your start-up disc is almost full, start deleating files".....any mac users out there that can tell me what to do about this..... <<
 
that's very odd. what OS? try googling the expression.... sounds a bit suspicious to me, & un-mac-like. 


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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C658DD.E8690050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:23:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFF6B3BF20; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44340B3C.8000104@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:23:56 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) References: <20060404105708.7EA5F3BF5C@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060404120506.02cb1620@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060404120506.02cb1620@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:23:58 +0000 (UTC) a k butler wrote: > hi Stephan, > So what's your definition of Politics then? > > Would it be "that which politicians do" , which is rather how I think of > it, > or some other? That which politicians do is usually a part of politics which is really annoying, nobody wants to be connected to that. But thats only one single aspect of politics: the power. And I would assume that most politicians are not professional, because their only intention seems to be growing their personal power which usually is against that what could be politics in a human way: finding solutions for problems of a community. Unfortunately you would need power to do politics professionally. Its the same with other professions, you need money to do it, but if you think thats the only thing you have to care of, you stop caring about your profession... > andy butler > ...if my music was political, I wouldn't have to ask the question ;-) As stated before, I guess your music has no political intention, but does have some political impact. Love you... 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Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:32:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02DF63BF1F; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20060405143207.aattbzhs4c0sw8s0@www.michaelplishka.com> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:32:07 -0400 From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) References: <20060405181111.9422.qmail@web37808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060405181111.9422.qmail@web37808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 502] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:32:17 +0000 (UTC) It just dawned on me that President Clinton's quote (as quoted) shows no idealogical struggle strictly speaking. The way he's phrased it, "the best way to grow the economy is to give more money to the wealthy" is the one side of the coin. The other side should be something else, but it's not. It's STILL to get more money to the wealthy so they can use it. It's more of a methodological struggle as isn't a true idealogical struggle in getting money to the wealthy. The struggle is more along the lines of "I can tax you before or tax you after, but your money still makes the rich richer, the poor poorer, and the average more averager." Quoting 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> > "The truth is there is an ideological struggle between those who > believe that the best way to grow the economy is to give more money > to the wealthy, and the Democrats who believe that the wealthy will > make more money if average people do better." - President Bill Clinton > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:35:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E84293BF13; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: Lighting Idea for Loopers! Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:35:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20060405182200.46679.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcZY3ddQ+B4qSQDVSk+QL/GiH16UFgAAcayA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Message-Id: <20060405183526.ZRNS3131.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@Desktop2002> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC) http://www.glowsource.com/page/TG/PROD/LASERBALL/ME_3700 Props to DS for plain text, points off for spelling. G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:38:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B23183BF21; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=A7RlmxDwsZOlLD/UsSrQ6oUxkN0IOMUJstI6jh6q/CtYzD34vZRZRnl0MoaGKZXtW4s7CQMKOlXAjYckzIiZ4odw/lgsS01RuWQH1SaN4UxnOi6HmFg2hZSma8CVVGkeJ8h07y1M8zCC4ybelm3OIZuzf//bDlyHamvRKSKrYK8= Message-ID: <913728d60604051138y358b6184tfdbdf5fe1f167f78@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:38:38 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: startup disk question (mac) In-Reply-To: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9056@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9056@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:38:39 +0000 (UTC) how full is your main hard drive? Charlie On 4/5/06, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote: > > >>a sign came up "your start-up disc is almost full, start deleating > files".....any mac users out there that can tell me what to do about > this..... << > > > that's very odd. what OS? try googling the expression.... sounds a bit > suspicious to me, & un-mac-like. > > *************************************************************************= ** > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user > of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also > be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may > not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it > in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, > please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. > > It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other > checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not > affect your systems / data. 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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060405183526.ZRNS3131.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@Desktop2002> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:43:21 +0000 (UTC) thanks for fixin that...im such a dork.lol --- Gary Lehmann wrote: > http://www.glowsource.com/page/TG/PROD/LASERBALL/ME_3700 > Props to DS for plain text, points off for spelling. > G > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:53:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 543523BF0F; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BJYqA9tLIIj+41hGVbhrBZSlBqGmWH48qxHygk6F43KUQes/agnQuLxyaJDGjKeGevvg/H7FzAuEOp/A7YplXGKkS88zhNB5a483SGIQCr4UTsAgcGqv8skJNgNMxXO/Y9tlUF+1zj5qmK0C27ZZ/AJwvHhCEVm038s1JE7lPNY= ; Message-ID: <20060405185340.19965.qmail@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:53:39 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060405143207.aattbzhs4c0sw8s0@www.michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:53:42 +0000 (UTC) money!....pink floyd said it best --- mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > > It just dawned on me that President Clinton's quote > (as quoted) shows no > idealogical struggle strictly speaking. The way > he's phrased it, "the > best way > to grow the economy is to give more money to the > wealthy" is the one > side of the > coin. The other side should be something else, but > it's not. It's > STILL to get > more money to the wealthy so they can use it. It's > more of a methodological > struggle as isn't a true idealogical struggle in > getting money to the wealthy. > The struggle is more along the lines of "I can tax > you before or tax > you after, > but your money still makes the rich richer, the poor > poorer, and the average > more averager." > > Quoting 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> > > > "The truth is there is an ideological struggle > between those who > > believe that the best way to grow the economy is > to give more money > > to the wealthy, and the Democrats who believe that > the wealthy will > > make more money if average people do better." - > President Bill Clinton > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:56:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EFC33BF14; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=J1i+JKNeFplHdvzAJ52OEMJWy3RwOVdCLzmCTeeesjA5j8I7cilBwvxZ5nxo4WkoMUstmo6+T1M6lBX1RJJEBDZ2tYa9b4UNHQKPvdPZwcGLbH1nI65WWUVUX7TYfss34yOBwncJxCAJeoUC2iah9SdtmoLP4LQaEdZqc4MishM= ; Message-ID: <20060405185616.75576.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:56:16 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: lexicon vs electrix (was Jam-Man for sale) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9055@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:56:17 +0000 (UTC) The Repeater noise thing is always something that's baffled me. I find it to be one of the quietest devices I own. I've never used the front instrument input, only the line level input in the back. I've accidently kept loops open at 100% with nothing going into it and not noticed. I see this complaint all the time though. It leads me to believe that units went out that were defective, or that the source of noise is somewhere else in the user's system. I don't care what looper you have, but if you have it at 100% feedback and your feeding noise into it you're going to get noise buildup just as you'd get buildup of any sound you put in. You really have to be careful with all loopers in this respect. I do conceed that the Lexicon JamMan was more friendly to a wide range of input levels. Really designed with the guitarist in mind. It's easy to see the Repeater as not. Hell, it's got a phono preamp in it... you don't have that switched on do you? Please tell me no... If you look at them purely spec wise (which you can never totally trust) it's plain to see that the Repeater has a little bit better dynamic range than the JamMan. It also has a higher sample rate. I think in my review of it when it first came out I noted that the sound was superb and it was like putting on glasses for the first time after having needed them slightly for years. I didn't think the JamMan sounded bad, quite good actually, but the Repeater and the EDP just sound a bit quieter and better. At least in my setup and it's by no means the best system in the world. I'm just running it out of the effects send of a Soundcraft board and into Mackie HR824s. Also, the JamMan click/pop is well documented. I don't know if later Bob Sallon mods fixed this, but if there was any midi jitter and you were doing quiet ambient washes you'd hear it for sure. We talked about it on this list a lot. For a while I never heard it because I was doing things synced to drums a lot, but when I started doing more peaceful sounding drones you'd hear it quiet easily. Did the JamMan ever really become "Stereo" I though that they added multiple tracks but it never actually had the ability do record a stereo loop. Am I wrong on that one? I did install an upgrade at one point but I'm pretty sure I didn't get stereo loops out of that box. --- goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote: > >>As an owner of both, I have to say I've found it > to be the exact > opposite.... Damn that annoying click when it's MIDI > synced though.<< > > we shall be forever citing this thread as an example > of YMMV..... not > knowing the setups that the aforementioned devices > are living in, I can only > add that our jam-mans have never made any noise, > hiss hum or click, that > we've noticed here, & they're always midi-clocked. > the repeaters, on the > other hand, seem to be prone to cumulative noise > almost like a pair of > revoxes.... unless you are really careful with the > gain structure. > the line inputs on the back are the suckiest, > noise-wise. the jack on the > front is relatively quiet, as is the insert-return > input. > has anyone tried using it with a record deck > directly into it's RIAA preamp? > > d. > > > *************************************************************************** > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the > ordinary user > of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and > may also > be privileged. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 18:58:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0DBE3BF0D; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <29158335.1144263524243.JavaMail.root@web26> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:58:44 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Cc: daniel stevenson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:58:49 +0000 (UTC) << The truth is there is an ideological struggle between those who believe that the best way to grow the economy is to give more money to the wealthy. >> This "ideology" is kinda like if I (a lower middle class shmuck) have more money (due to lower taxes), the panhandlers will be better off because I'll have more spare change in my pocket to give them. OR - I could open a lemonade stand and give a kid a job! -- Paul Richards ---- daniel stevenson wrote: > money!....pink floyd said it best > > --- mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > > > > > It just dawned on me that President Clinton's quote > > (as quoted) shows no > > idealogical struggle strictly speaking. The way > > he's phrased it, "the > > best way > > to grow the economy is to give more money to the > > wealthy" is the one > > side of the > > coin. The other side should be something else, but > > it's not. It's > > STILL to get > > more money to the wealthy so they can use it. It's > > more of a methodological > > struggle as isn't a true idealogical struggle in > > getting money to the wealthy. > > The struggle is more along the lines of "I can tax > > you before or tax > > you after, > > but your money still makes the rich richer, the poor > > poorer, and the average > > more averager." > > > > Quoting 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> > > > > > "The truth is there is an ideological struggle > > between those who > > > believe that the best way to grow the economy is > > to give more money > > > to the wealthy, and the Democrats who believe that > > the wealthy will > > > make more money if average people do better." - > > President Bill Clinton > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 19:01:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4DA73BF2A; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=o6V8RrZNLT8CeZ0W+/FUFHr/LvHSjYywVei3576JzRSMkxqQl/fNrGc+ndm6bvpmDEgMI1yJ9hrJ1/vlIB32mbC/L6BPRXWYMb7N/dbPcth9Wr3A8tiPAsHI+4Kspk/1edgvbRx+fu3GcCY941b06KiaeO4iwwpim7+LMErcYkc= ; Message-ID: <20060405190117.44625.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:01:17 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: startup disk question (mac) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1aa.493e87e2.31655cad@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Yes, that's the mac's way of telling you that your startup disk is full and you need to start deleating files if you want to get anything else on there. Also, OS X loves to use disk space for cached files for a kind of virtual RAM. My advise would be to invest in a bigger hard drive. They're pretty cheap these days. Maybe even an external one would work well for you. I keep my mp3s on a 250 gig firewire drive by LeCie. I don't know if the emacs had firewire or usb inputs though. --- Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > i just received 2 new cds from mighty tim nelson > today (THNAKS TIM!), i will > give my thoughts later after giving them a good > listen.....when installing > these cds into my i-tunes (i use an eMac) a sign > came up "your start-up disc is > almost full, start deleating files".....any mac > users out there that can tell > me what to do about this.....i'm at a loss as > usual.....thnaks mucho.....m > > > > www.ct-collective.com > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 19:05:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC4703BF2D; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060405185616.75576.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060405185616.75576.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:05:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: RE: lexicon vs electrix (was Jam-Man for sale) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Let's not forget the Repeater's horrid latency. I built a passive summing matrix to accomodate my repeater, unfortunately the repeater does not save it's "mute dry signal" preference. I also modified my EH 16 second reissue by adding an ANALOG direct path. The dry signal goes through the DSP in the stock version, adding more dreaded latency and the dry signal bandwidth is also compromised. Will someone please help me find a buyer for my Jam-Man before it goes on e-bay? -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 19:09:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E72183BF1D; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <29158335.1144263524243.JavaMail.root@web26> References: <29158335.1144263524243.JavaMail.root@web26> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:09:13 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:09:13 +0000 (UTC) No it is not. The fact is that if you give money to the poor or lower middle class, they will buy more from their local merchants, who buy more from their distributors, who buy more from the manufacturers, etc... If you give more money to the rich, they keep it, or it goes to the CEOs as bonus money or perks. ><< The truth is there is an ideological struggle between those >who believe that the best way to grow the economy is >to give more money to the wealthy. >> > >This "ideology" is kinda like if I (a lower middle class shmuck) >have more money (due to lower taxes), the panhandlers will be better >off because I'll have more spare change in my pocket to give them. >OR - I could open a lemonade stand and give a kid a job! > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 19:20:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 691023BF10; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F Subject: Impedance question (was: AW: 2 Questions) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:08:37 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/05/2006 03:19:25 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 682AC78A1WK1281619-75-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:20:08 +0000 (UTC) OK, so I think I understand the problem a little better after reading up on impedance a little...... So I understnd (hopefully) that the Repeater WANTS a line level signal, and that by putting a DI in between my bass & the Repeater, I should be able to get rid of any noise caused by that mismatch. So my question now is, is there a box that works the opposite way? ie something that will take the line level signal from the Repeater's output & change it to a level that my amps FX loop can handle? If not, I will just have to purchase a pair of monitors, but it'd be nice to solve the whole issue with a couple of $25 boxes. As always, thanks for the help..... "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Straschill" cc: Subject: AW: 2 Questions 04/03/2006 02:08 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight > I've got 2 mixers at home- a Nady 4 chanel mini mixer > (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku= > 630433), and a Behringer UB1002 > (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku= > 631237). Any suggestions on how exactly to incorporate those > into the rig? Could I run > Repeater>one of those mixers>monitors & get a decent sound > out of that > Repeater>set > up? I think that would be ideal if it works.......any what would work is: Bass->DI->mixer in (I figure one of them has phantom power)->Repeater->monitors, or even more flexible: Bass->DI->mixer in/mixer aux send->repeater->back into mixer/mixer out->monitors. A DI with an excellent price/performance ratio is Behringer's DI-20 (one of their few devices which really sound good), which costs slightly less than the model number in pound sterling... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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Clinton also doesn't say "give more money to the poor"... Interesting... Quoting Charles Zwicky : > No it is not. > > The fact is that if you give money to the poor or lower middle class, > they will buy more from their local merchants, who buy more from > their distributors, who buy more from the manufacturers, etc... > > If you give more money to the rich, they keep it, or it goes to the > CEOs as bonus money or perks. > > > >> << The truth is there is an ideological struggle between those >> who believe that the best way to grow the economy is >> to give more money to the wealthy. >> >> >> This "ideology" is kinda like if I (a lower middle class shmuck) >> have more money (due to lower taxes), the panhandlers will be better >> off because I'll have more spare change in my pocket to give them. >> OR - I could open a lemonade stand and give a kid a job! >> > > -- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 19:27:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41B3E3BF12; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=M/XPi+dfdaQymGl+5LQl4RebKQCwRWQzNnJTphVKXwhvALwsJjOJBPl0rWa7+oP6m+Okj2j3DO94MGC5eWrNN2IcR5EVNtxopNMTMKFhpQLRiubDAEa5o3w45bPmSq8jp5slKXXZ8wZ502Bu3zOwVdi9qz6RJaqwqlFzZMQbZeE= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Impedance question (was: AW: 2 Questions) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:27:24 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:27:30 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:08 PM, matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > ie something that will take the > line level signal from the Repeater's output & change it to a level > that my > amps FX loop can handle? If not, I will just have to purchase a > pair of > monitors, but it'd be nice to solve the whole issue with a couple > of $25 > boxes. Ebtech makes a little box called a Line Level shifter. Also works as a hum eliminator. Can't remember the price, probably $45 or so. regards BobCo http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://tinyurl.com/cr25j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 19:34:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05AAD3BF2C; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=sFilCFFiPVAnP5KDbZgT+hnwtqBIKIeln9z7U7WhI8Ygw/RGa+u1sopFWM4pH9DQp/NA4NCZRVgywoxjDypmhQRxX/KInQccqiVZBPowOsgkzriGFMp/fSHYRoJ99gY7ZbVCXTmeC8H7+dGrpOYQPHaj6hOMtH18yqqklQuAdss= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: <1aa.493e87e2.31655cad@aol.com> References: <1aa.493e87e2.31655cad@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <899F4B73-4D6C-447D-A295-A20DE5871509@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: startup disk question (mac) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:31:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:34:21 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > when installing these cds into my i-tunes Are you ripping the cd's? 2 cd's can be around a gigabyte or more of material. If you *import* as mp3s instead of rip that should cut down the size by 2/3. Also defragging the drive sometimes frees up a decent block of space. regards BobCo http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://tinyurl.com/cr25j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 19:38:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D4C53BF1D; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <14922058.1144265922502.JavaMail.root@web26> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:38:42 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Cc: Charles Zwicky MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:38:44 +0000 (UTC) I thought that's what I, more or less, said in a sarcastic way. The argument for upper income tax cuts is that there will be more investment in startup companies, investment in other businesses, etc. Seems like the money goes for purchasing multiple houses and real estate in Aspen or wherever to me, though. -- Paul Richards ---- Charles Zwicky wrote: > No it is not. > > The fact is that if you give money to the poor or lower middle class, > they will buy more from their local merchants, who buy more from > their distributors, who buy more from the manufacturers, etc... > > If you give more money to the rich, they keep it, or it goes to the > CEOs as bonus money or perks. > > > > ><< The truth is there is an ideological struggle between those > >who believe that the best way to grow the economy is > >to give more money to the wealthy. >> > > > >This "ideology" is kinda like if I (a lower middle class shmuck) > >have more money (due to lower taxes), the panhandlers will be better > >off because I'll have more spare change in my pocket to give them. > >OR - I could open a lemonade stand and give a kid a job! > > > > -- > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 20:03:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9677F3BF0D; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44342289.60105@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:03:21 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) References: <20060404195638.4C58D3BF29@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405093709.02d986d0@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060405093709.02d986d0@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <895Ai.A.VEE.OKCNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:03:26 +0000 (UTC) a k butler wrote: > I'd make an equally unsupported statement that there's a vast > majority of people who would never like Stockhausen however much they > were encouraged. Most because they don't understand it (and don't think its worth to bother) and some because they don't like the politics behind it ;-) > The government of the country you live in won't be influenced by the > music that you play. Possibly, but the other way round is more obvious: The government does influence the music you play. If you're poor, you might not be able to play the music your audience would appriciate. A government can support the arts or suppress the arts. This does make a difference. If you play music on the streets and the police kicks you off always or if you live in Boise where you even get paid for playing on the street will make a big difference... >> my semi-coherent 2-cent rambling, once again ;) > > and mine ;-) apologies for bandwidth and mine, I like the thread... >> - you will now be returned to your regular broadcast Forgot what that was Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 20:14:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 914493BF07; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4434252C.8080300@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:14:36 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? References: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9036@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9036@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:14:37 +0000 (UTC) goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote: > does anyone know of a cd authoring tool that lets you enter cd-text? > cd-architect, oddly, doesn't. in fact, the only time I've done it was > using a denon standalone cd-recorder. Diskburner from Emagic did it, but I believe its discontinued. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 20:30:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01AE23BF0F; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <004c01c658ad$ad91fc50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <004c01c658ad$ad91fc50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <15304943-D229-45D6-ABC1-DE0FFA59F70E@craigmccollough.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Craig McCollough Subject: [OT] Re: Lighting Idea for Loopers! Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:30:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: craig+craigmccollough.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server784.dnslive.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - craigmccollough.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:30:30 +0000 (UTC) I had a piece in the SIGGRAPH cyber fashion show with Janet Hanson (creator of the LED suit) last summer - lots of great fun things. There are a few pics on my site: www.iposeforclothes.com and the siggraph cyberfashion show sites: http://psymbiote.org/cyfash/2005/ http://www.psymbiote.org/cyfash/ http://www.siggraph.org/s2005/main.php?f=conference&p=events Cool Neon (www.coolneon.com) has great Electro-Luminescent stuff for clothing projects, plus a sound activated driver craig On Apr 5, 2006, at 5:37 AM, loop.pool wrote: > Very cool idea but hella expensive. > > They charge $10 per LED and the vinyl suits have hundreds of LEDs > in them potentially. > I did the math and it depressed me. > > Guess I'm gonna stick to cheesy old UV art with my > outfits............lol. > > Rick Walker > > > Stephen wrote: > http://enlighted.com/pages/clear.shtml > Is anyone else here old enough to remember the 'electric dress'? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 20:36:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 630283BF2B; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAC/FM0SITyw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060405192641.02868070@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:33:55 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re:Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) In-Reply-To: <20060405181113.1966E3BF0C@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060405181113.1966E3BF0C@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:36:56 +0000 (UTC) 3nki explains >>>>i think people who don't "believe" in politics are playing into the >>>>hands of those systems who would control us. and continues >politics is the interrelations among people. so by that definition I'm political :-) and like you say, everyone is involved in politics So really we just have 2 different definitions of politics to use a) to do with the government of a country b) human interrelation ( although I'm not sure that shouldn't be 'human interrelation in terms of the balance of power between individuals') You seem to be saying that by denying that politics should be defined as human interrelation is somehow going to allow the politicians that run the country more chance to have their evil way. >someone asked for a definition of politics I asked Stefan for his. He seems not to want anything to do with government politician types. >so i provided several I don't think there's anyone here doesn't know what the word "political" is used for. ...but you're using it in more than one sense all at the same time in order to make your point. So... how does the way your playing interacts with your loops reflect your politics? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 21:20:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C141A3BEFE; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ZRAMlDY4Gq20r92Dud4gpBkfUAHwmQaGfzbk/xxk5Iz5KDEvHq/4FF47+th+GZcR1SwDdu23vLU5aYv/VXRszmdwiLCwu1VNmnT5L8YOjbrWs6UYLpuBtCcFBQe1O/kAZGYEbmLyac69k19B9jCzZbttru7kapU9TK9Tg0bo4g8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <4434252C.8080300@addcom.de> References: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9036@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <4434252C.8080300@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 23:19:06 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:20:25 +0000 (UTC) > goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote: >> does anyone know of a cd authoring tool that lets you enter cd- >> text? cd-architect, oddly, doesn't. in fact, the only time I've >> done it was using a denon standalone cd-recorder. On 5 apr 2006, at 22.14, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Diskburner from Emagic did it, but I believe its discontinued. They now offer WaveBurner. Except for burning the audio files you can also set CD Text, UPC/EAN Code, Default Pause Length, Add Silence At CD End. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 21:34:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E99A03BF0C; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Kw7a93pMn3Zd61MO2iLgNkQrvibFbfZhma97vVtfq7WwjSN0IiDpf2gyzXaYLBGj; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:33:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) From: stanitarium To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060405192641.02868070@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd488ee4d88abc97f761288561a0b1bf69c9ac30c6e5e32ee181350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.243.161.145 Resent-Message-ID: <0zyHNB.A.f2G.ifDNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:34:26 +0000 (UTC) i'm happy to say that i'm: apolitical amusical and probablee an a-hole not necesssarilee in that a order. s on 4/5/06 12:33 PM, a k butler at akbutler@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > 3nki explains > >>>>> i think people who don't "believe" in politics are playing into the >>>>> hands of those systems who would control us. > > and continues > >> politics is the interrelations among people. > > so by that definition I'm political :-) > and like you say, everyone is involved in politics > > So really we just have 2 different definitions of politics to use > > a) to do with the government of a country > b) human interrelation ( although I'm not sure that shouldn't be > 'human interrelation in terms of the balance of power between individuals') > > You seem to be saying that by denying that politics should be defined > as human interrelation is somehow going to allow the politicians that > run the country more chance to have their evil way. > >> someone asked for a definition of politics > > I asked Stefan for his. > He seems not to want anything to do with government politician types. > >> so i provided several > > I don't think there's anyone here doesn't know what the word > "political" is used for. > ...but you're using it in more than one sense all at the same time in > order to make your point. > > So... > how does the way your playing interacts with your loops reflect your politics? > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 21:47:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FB1C3BEE1; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <308.1f42515.31659507@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:47:51 EDT Subject: Re: startup disk question (mac) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_308.1f42515.31659507_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:47:58 +0000 (UTC) --part1_308.1f42515.31659507_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/5/06 3:01:34 PM, zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com writes: > I don't know if the emacs had > firewire or usb inputs though. > yes they do.....and i use osx.....i think an external drive is the ticket.....i was confusing "start-up" as some other thing than the hard drive.....there were games and such in the emac when i got it, should i dump them? 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 --part1_1ac.4ab27400.316596aa_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 21:58:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E1263BF14; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: lexicon vs electrix (was Jam-Man for sale) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:58:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:58:23 +0000 (UTC) unfortunately the repeater does not save it's "mute dry signal" preference. No, but you can assign that to a midi pedal, and once you toggle the dry mute on, it stays on, no matter if you hit that switch again. On my Behringer FCB1010 I assign it to the same preset on my 00 bank as stop start, and always remember to hit stop start first after I power up so that input signal is muted and all the latency and noise issues disappear. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 22:02:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7FD83BF21; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAPnWM0SIUCw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060405225406.02bbaeb0@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:00:07 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) In-Reply-To: <20060405214758.E6E6D3BF0D@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060405214758.E6E6D3BF0D@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:02:39 +0000 (UTC) At 22:47 05/04/06, you wrote: >a k butler wrote: >>I'd make an equally unsupported statement that there's a vast >>majority of people who would never like Stockhausen however much they >>were encouraged. >stephan replies >Most because they don't understand it (and don't think its worth to >bother) I'm not at all sure that one has to understand music to enjoy it. Rather the opposite, if anything. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 22:04:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46CF53BF28; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <371.12a98d5.316598ea@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:04:26 EDT Subject: Re: startup disk question (mac) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_371.12a98d5.316598ea_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:04:37 +0000 (UTC) --part1_371.12a98d5.316598ea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 4/5/06 3:34:22 PM, skeptikalist@gmail.com writes: > If you *import*=A0 > as mp3s instead of rip that should cut down the size by 2/3. >=20 i just put them into my i-tunes that came with the emac.....i had assumed=20 that they were going in as mp3s....:?m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_371.12a98d5.316598ea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/5/06 3:34:22 PM, skeptikalist@gmail.com writes:


If you *import*=A0 as mp3s instead of rip that should cut down the size by 2/3.


i just put them into my i-tunes that came with the emac.....i had assumed= that they were going in as mp3s....:?m



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 --part1_371.12a98d5.316598ea_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 22:13:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B88C93BEE8; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=sxzxYCPb093hsvHNXDu8ft2r0UQe5kPfQf2RkciKe9P/3jQb3n7mBBauGXrf2XV/mynF8EsufrjC2ztcoPltYVGEH1IrXzk2oSftul/8HOsP/0Q3+xW4fUocpcOgEaasnJs4J5SGGHwZ4OqUAESo6qnhT2vJKqDlJCIXm6ORaz4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: <371.12a98d5.316598ea@aol.com> References: <371.12a98d5.316598ea@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: startup disk question (mac) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:13:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:13:59 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 5, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > i had assumed that they were going in as mp3s.. You can do a *get info* on some of your iTunes files to check file type. If I drag and drop an aiff file into iTunes it gets placed into iTunes as an aiff. If I select *import* in the File menu then select the aiff, it gets placed in iTunes as an MP3 because I set that as the import default under Preferences>advanced>import. regards BobCo http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://tinyurl.com/cr25j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 23:06:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF1B43BEF8; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 23:06:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NPNb71eRkJiRRyRi50tl9ov7q5a2RMA9F3udUp2WjHyAyTqlqyZqW+1fIFdHl7zaD6/V66sWbnrrax7DcrJ6h9acEkBuEJU36RqywSYPlCr7jU4kK5SwX9Hw/c/qGIWCnQE41BRzi9wJ66/bK1+SDp47P7t3DDMGBapk5kaRwkI= ; Message-ID: <20060405230615.74970.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:06:15 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: lexicon vs electrix (was Jam-Man for sale) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-6cZ3C.A.3sC.p1ENEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 23:06:17 +0000 (UTC) That's a great tip Bill. I do that with my software sequencer, but I forgot I could put it in my FCB1010 as well. The really unfortunate nature of the Repeater: Software v 2 will never see the light of day. There are dozens of tiny tweaks that would make the Repeater even more amazing than it already is. Maybe this is why it's the looper that people seem to love to hate. --- William Walker wrote: > unfortunately the repeater > does not save it's "mute dry signal" preference. > > > No, but you can assign that to a midi pedal, and > once you toggle the dry > mute on, it stays on, no matter if you hit that > switch again. On my > Behringer FCB1010 I assign it to the same preset on > my 00 bank as stop > start, and always remember to hit stop start first > after I power up so that > input signal is muted and all the latency and noise > issues disappear. > Bill > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 5 23:50:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 141A63BEE7; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 23:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=jSqo4KuSpXxStH5RGE3FKuIrhE9M9E6pEt+0YJcJVT7ahjpCJlnXi0/BpYk37uqywPF2/BLGjS5ux0Yw6N9genMCHNAlyhuyTNOjUgDXku02jN6WMht1p+Wrja5tCJiAE0u/seUwmCztPznKEzTOYM86HUtQ8Vuh9PyeBKStexc= Message-ID: <913728d60604051650n2f5eedaco5b3e9fe6f5d4f3c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:50:03 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hello from a new looper (sort-of)! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 23:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi everybody! I just wanted to say Hi to everybody, my name is Charlie, and i have been getting the emails for about a year, and i figure since i am starting to know some of the answers to the questions you guys (and gals) have, I figure i might introduce myself! anyways, i am primarily a bass player, i have been looping for two years now. I first started on the Boss RC-20, and now with the advice of my guitar player, i have had a lexicon jamman for about a year now...very cool box... anyways, i gotta say that a lot of the music that has been coming from the people on this site has just been awesome...before i signed up here, i have already heard Steve Lawson (who between him and my guitar player got me interested in looping) and Kris Hartung. I look forward to hearing what everybody else has! I feel kinda bad, but here is what i have to offer so far, compared to what else is going on here this is very non-professional, but i am kinda interested in ambient music and this is what i came up with :) http://www.myspace.com/thirdorderoftheslaphappypinapple (btw the band name is just a working title :) ) Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 00:52:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EB673BEDA; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 00:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:55:14 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Lighting Idea for Loopers! In-Reply-To: <004c01c658ad$ad91fc50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Message-ID: References: <004c01c658ad$ad91fc50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 00:52:30 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, loop.pool wrote: > Very cool idea but hella expensive. I got "hellishly expensive" for you right here: http://www.luminex.it/ Luminex looks great if you're designing couture for Fae, angels, or other ethereal-type looks, but at $3,000/yard.... best, Steve B http://www.subscapeannex.com/about_steve.html > They charge $10 per LED and the vinyl suits have hundreds of LEDs in them > potentially. > I did the math and it depressed me. > > Guess I'm gonna stick to cheesy old UV art with my outfits............lol. > > Rick Walker > > > Stephen wrote: > http://enlighted.com/pages/clear.shtml > Is anyone else here old enough to remember the 'electric dress'? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 01:02:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31FCF3BEE8; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jhsidlo@aol.com Message-ID: <1ad.4a02e001.3165c298@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:02:16 EDT Subject: Re: Supersilent (Re: ARVE HENRIKSON) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1144285336" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5042 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:02:22 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1144285336 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/5/2006 1:49:07 AM Central Standard Time, perboysen@gmail.com writes: On 4 apr 2006, at 22.32, Tim Nelson wrote: > Arve is also a member of one of my favorite groups: > Supersilent. If anyone on this list hasn't heard them, > you definitely should! Haven't heard them yet. But with a band name like that they must be smashing!!! Thanks for the tip :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) I just read in Signal To Noise, Supersilent did a show in England with Terje Rypdal. Interesting combination!! Cia, James -------------------------------1144285336 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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> Supersi= lent. If anyone on this list hasn't heard them,
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-------------------------------1144285336-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 01:07:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E90213BEEE; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1cc201c65916$7fa7e520$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <913728d60604051650n2f5eedaco5b3e9fe6f5d4f3c7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hello from a new looper (sort-of)! Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:07:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=264105, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <1AUY8B.A.SZF.enGNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Welcome to the jungle, Charlie....well, sort of. :) I look forward to seeing your posts. Kris ----- Original Message ----- Hi everybody! I just wanted to say Hi to everybody, my name is Charlie, and i have been getting the emails for about a year, and i figure since i am starting to know some of the answers to the questions you guys (and gals) have, I figure i might introduce myself! anyways, i am primarily a bass player, i have been looping for two years now. I first started on the Boss RC-20, and now with the advice of my guitar player, i have had a lexicon jamman for about a year now...very cool box... anyways, i gotta say that a lot of the music that has been coming from the people on this site has just been awesome...before i signed up here, i have already heard Steve Lawson (who between him and my guitar player got me interested in looping) and Kris Hartung. I look forward to hearing what everybody else has! I feel kinda bad, but here is what i have to offer so far, compared to what else is going on here this is very non-professional, but i am kinda interested in ambient music and this is what i came up with :) http://www.myspace.com/thirdorderoftheslaphappypinapple (btw the band name is just a working title :) ) Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 01:09:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D089F3BEF4; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=C+OWEm2Tg+OODrprsCo8BHxz+YrdE/iJDTvgZ7vNM3mMJv/qYg7jPd7VAeqPvtt9; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-22006446192830@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Noise Pancakes in the news! Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:09:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da9403a81033e880d581ebaf173489fcfde29350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.251 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Once again I find myself on the wrong coast. Seems like the West has all the cool cars, the trainspotting action, and the most vibrant avant scene. ~Tim > [Original Message] > From: 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> > To: > Date: 4/5/2006 1:03:23 PM > Subject: Noise Pancakes in the news! > > definitely worth reading: > > http://www.sfweekly.com/Issues/2006-03-15/listenup/listenfeat3_full.html > > > excerpt: > > It's Saturday morning in San Francisco. Across the city, scenesters > sit bleary-eyed in diners, sucking greasy spoons and mainlining > caffeine. But in an airy loft in the dirty heart of the Mission, 30 > people of various ages are chatting brightly, paper plates in hands > and on knees, carving into vegan gingerbread pancakes, and taking in > some utterly brutal electronic live music. This is "Godwaffle Noise > Pancakes," a monthly gathering for fans of gourmet griddle fare and > sonic violence. > > [ ... ] > > Noise is about the transitory joy and pain that unfold at each > performance, whether during the sweaty electronic terror of the > national scene's current ambassadors to the mainstream, Wolf Eyes; > the gore-pop of Spider Compass Goodcrime Band; or the manipulated- > feedback monsoon of Bacillus, who appears on the Postscript DVD in a > full biohazard get-up, the necessity of which becomes clear when he > steps into the audience and releases some powdery viruses into the air. > > It's also wonderful to see music made by people who couldn't give a > shit about making any money. A noise artist will never get a record > deal, despite the fact that he will likely invest hundreds of dollars > in laptops, tape machines, sound processors, musical instruments, > effects pedals, and anal beads. > > At today's "Noise Pancakes," the watchers are made up of young > hipsters, scruffy old metal dudes, middle-aged art types, and a small > phalanx of pretty UC Berkeley undergrads doing some sort of > "research." In a corner, a young couple placidly sits on a couch > reading the newspaper while Noel Von Harmonson (from local garage- > psych band Comets on Fire) unleashes a thunderous solo set not three > feet away. In broad daylight, in full view of the Financial District, > urbanely eating pancakes, it feels like we are winning a little war. > Against what it's unclear, but the fight is delightful. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 01:16:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B51713BEF1; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: lexicon vs electrix (was Jam-Man for sale) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:16:11 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20060405230615.74970.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Your Welcome...As soon as I get more scoots, I'm going to have Pete Toms modify mine, even so I love my Repeater and its quirky personality, still very vital to my thing, even though I love both the EDP and the LP1 as well, Via la difference I say.. Bill -----Original Message----- From: mark sottilaro [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:06 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: lexicon vs electrix (was Jam-Man for sale) That's a great tip Bill. I do that with my software sequencer, but I forgot I could put it in my FCB1010 as well. The really unfortunate nature of the Repeater: Software v 2 will never see the light of day. There are dozens of tiny tweaks that would make the Repeater even more amazing than it already is. Maybe this is why it's the looper that people seem to love to hate. --- William Walker wrote: > unfortunately the repeater > does not save it's "mute dry signal" preference. > > > No, but you can assign that to a midi pedal, and > once you toggle the dry > mute on, it stays on, no matter if you hit that > switch again. On my > Behringer FCB1010 I assign it to the same preset on > my 00 bank as stop > start, and always remember to hit stop start first > after I power up so that > input signal is muted and all the latency and noise > issues disappear. > Bill > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 01:40:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CAB63BEDD; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loop List From: Steve Lawson Subject: Re: LP1/FCB1010 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 02:40:40 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - paddington.sitehq4.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <9TW2lD.A.2LG.cGHNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:40:45 +0000 (UTC) >>> For the sake of conversation, let's call the sequence of events you describe below that are executable with one button-push as "The Lawson Maneuver." Can I only program one set of chained events this way into the Looperlative, or could I program in The Lawson Maneuver" and add others, like a "Kirkdorffer Maneuver," a "Trick Number 3" and "Trick number 4" etc. If I can add other multi-chained events, is there a limit?<<< you can program as many as you like. Every single button on your pedal board could control up to 8 functions in sequence. :o) cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 01:42:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F01D3BEEC; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=a9CZMRZ0THhVm32jrNulbm5SML8AolTtrCPnUcPgsY2fXkRTj77YaFHuTKdUEK/waJ1jOcQSbkdpTg9r85SCLUgNSP1C1/ZlZi+DN0GNKb+9LXqP6oYma1dZiO/0tyyMDjcvQ8BlYKKz50/1WOhih1Q5ugS96yPR9KPWIB/f3MQ= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:42:29 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP1/FCB1010 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:42:31 +0000 (UTC) thats sweet. On 4/5/06, Steve Lawson wrote: > >>> > For the sake of conversation, let's call the sequence of events you > describe > below that are executable with one button-push as "The Lawson Maneuver." > Can I only program one set of chained events this way into the > Looperlative, > or could I program in The Lawson Maneuver" and add others, like a > "Kirkdorffer Maneuver," a "Trick Number 3" and "Trick number 4" etc. > If I > can add other multi-chained events, is there a limit?<<< > > you can program as many as you like. Every single button on your > pedal board could control up to 8 functions in sequence. :o) > > cheers > > Steve > www.stevelawson.net - site > www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 02:18:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F42F3BEE4; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 02:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004301c65920$694baaf0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: [OT] Re: Lighting Idea for Loopers! Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:18:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <1w_jIB.A.xLH.7pHNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 02:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Craig wrote: "I had a piece in the SIGGRAPH cyber fashion show with Janet Hanson (creator of the LED suit) last summer - lots of great fun things. There are a few pics on my site: www.iposeforclothes.com" ******************************** I just wanted to weigh in and say that Craig McCoullough is not only a really fascinating musician (loops, trumpet, flugelhorn, synthesizer, electronic musical inventions, etc.) but he is also an amazing fashion designer and photographer. I've had the privilege of both seeing him play and also MCing a goth fashion show that he designed dagylo outfits for. It's really cool to see him delurk. He is one of the most truly creative people I know and I hope we can snag him for a performance at Y2K6 this year. Rick Walker aka |()()p.p()()| www.looppool.info From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 02:44:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDD373BEE6; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 02:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <963aca0bc2d10d7a1445e4c1e27c15e7@pfmentum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: max loopers in chicago....choir boys.... Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:44:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 02:44:26 +0000 (UTC) For those of you in the Chicago area.... "The Choir Boys" Jeff Kaiser, quarter-tone trumpet, electronics Andrew Pask, woodwinds electronics with Don Malone, voice and electronics Tuesday April 11th 8pm Live on WNUR 89.3 FM http://www.wnur.org/ Wednesday April 12th 9:30pm & 11pm Empty Bottle www.emptybottle.com Thursday April 13th 7:30pm Roosevelt University=20 http://ccpa.roosevelt.edu/ccpa/concert.asp Friday April 14th 10:30pm & 11:30pm Elastic Arts / 3030=20 http://www.elasticrevolution.com/ Saturday April 15th Hotti Biscotti (773) 772-9970 FYI, Andrew and I both use loopers built in max/msp....he has a=20 fascinating "loop harvester" that is constantly and randomly grabbing=20 live audio and looping / processing it. I use a more "traditional"=20 approach and selectively loop and layer.... Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 02:50:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 116423BEE1; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 02:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1ce101c65924$cad43f40$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: Subject: Re: LP1/FCB1010 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:49:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 521, in=261540, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <53jW7.A.A9H.ZHINEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 02:50:02 +0000 (UTC) > you can program as many as you like. Every single button on your pedal > board could control up to 8 functions in sequence. :o) It is indeed a beautiful thing. I started out by mapping both reverse and half speed to the same button (suggested by Bob in the LP1 manual), then I mapped Overdub and half-speed to another button (suggestion from Bill Walker), which as you can imagine allows for some interesting things with half speed and double-speed output popping up depending on how you use it. I mapped another two buttons to operate sort of like the EDP next loop function, based on Steve's suggestion , etc. The list could go on and on. I've just decided to ditch my FCB for controlling the LP1 and go to my slim and sleek ADA MC-1 MIDI controller...couldn't do this with the EDP because the unit only sends program changes. I'll map a few other MIDI buttons to volume and feedback changes, rather than using the FCB controller pedals...I've relieved to rid that boat anchor of a MIDI controller from my system, at least for the LP1. I'll use the FCB for Mobius. Kris ************************************************* Krispen Hartung - Improvisational Guitar www.krispenhartung.com www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm Looper's Delight Playlist: http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 03:50:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61E003BEDA; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 03:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Af6uBPN7qpPPacjcmkcdyEzzz5p5AVTi9fAcKI+8VZUiffIx+rUNpo9MU2e+MUPcAO7xNqrGuF0bfwDYrzGxi3LQnaLg/vU36uC06QLb+xyIXkmtmouTpI5uIEXJj9nXP/Lt1BbMimzx0bdq86b5MSdD2+zhO4XaqiMFJtawZuk= Message-ID: <913728d60604052050m3755fa0akfe5f032274b01655@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:50:24 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Erik Satie's Musique d'Ameublement MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 03:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi everybody again! (people who are getting this in digest mode must be sick of me by now :) ) anyways, i was reading about the aforementioned piece at the LD website, and i can't seem to find any recording of it...does anyone know where i might find it? Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 05:50:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B80BA3BEDA; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 05:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <004301c65920$694baaf0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <004301c65920$694baaf0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5DC3779E-03B9-4389-9EFA-6C8070AA6DA8@craigmccollough.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Craig McCollough Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Lighting Idea for Loopers! Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:50:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: craig+craigmccollough.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server784.dnslive.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - craigmccollough.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <6DhJCD.A.6BE.kwKNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 05:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Awww shuckers, Rick, you're making me blush! (thanks for the plug - the check's in the mail ;-) Seriously though - I've been lurking for quite awhile, but actively lurking and getting a lot of inspiration from this list. It's interesting, entertaining, informative, and supportive. It's really helped in getting me back to making music after some 'wandering in the desert'. So thanks to all. craig On Apr 5, 2006, at 7:18 PM, loop.pool wrote: > Rick Walker wrote: > It's really cool to see him delurk. He is one of the most truly > creative people I know and I hope we can > snag him for a performance at Y2K6 this year. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 05:55:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3C2A3BEE2; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 05:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: RE: a nice akkapella ad Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:55:22 +0200 Message-ID: <005601c6593e$b1dddef0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C6594F.7566AEF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <1ac.4ab27400.316596aa@aol.com> Thread-Index: AcZZPg6WKpFy/QjPT9C+VmZ8x+kSAgAAHzWw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 05:55:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C6594F.7566AEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Nemoguitt@aol.com > this is fun imho.....http://84.40.3.164/ wonderful !!! thanks for posting Michael www.michaelpeters.de ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C6594F.7566AEF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> this is fun=20 imho.....http://84.40.3.164/
wonderful !!!   thanks for=20 posting
 
 
Michael www.michaelpeters.de
 
------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C6594F.7566AEF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 06:01:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E07003BED9; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 06:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: RE: Erik Satie's Musique d'Ameublement Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:01:05 +0200 Message-ID: <005b01c6593f$7e864be0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <913728d60604052050m3755fa0akfe5f032274b01655@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcZZPg8gubBukPSmQXuampqpCEM6LwAAUFRA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 06:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Charlie Milkey wrote, > anyways, i was reading about the aforementioned piece at the > LD website, and i can't seem to find any recording of > it...does anyone know where i might find it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furniture_music has some information about the pieces that Satie considered furniture music Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 07:16:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79D5E3BED9; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4434C031.2020906@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:16:01 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) References: <20060405214758.E6E6D3BF0D@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405225406.02bbaeb0@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060405225406.02bbaeb0@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:16:07 +0000 (UTC) a k butler wrote: > I'm not at all sure that one has to understand music to enjoy it. > Rather the opposite, if anything. There is also an emotional understanding, which is required. To quote Xenakis: Music is not a language. But it has an aspect of communication. The musician does express some feelings, the listener will resonate if there is an emotional understanding. The feelings of the performer and the feelings of the listener do not need to be the same, (no language with clear mappings) but it needs to have a common space of resonance otherwise nothing would happen. I did not refer to intellectual understanding, this could even distract the resonances, but sometimes it can also help... If I don't like music, I should consider not understanding it, to be able to finally find the beauty in it. But still if I understand, I could dislike it... If I don't, I don't know yet if I could like it. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 07:39:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AECDD3BEE0; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:06:10 +0300 From: Denis 'Diz' Loskutnikov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) Personal Reply-To: Denis 'Diz' Loskutnikov Organization: FWD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16659695765.20060406120610@spacenet.ru> To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Cheapest MIDI controller ever Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Hello! Since I delurked, let me share my old DIY plans for cheapest (and possibly lightest and smallest) MIDI controller ever - maybe it'll be useful for somebuddy. It's PC-software based and basically nothing more then bunch of buttons (and few electronic parts) connected to PC game port. All processing done in windows soft in a way not unlike from well-known MidiJoy soft, but my design support up to 15 buttons and no knobs (though only one button could be pressed at time). This project requires basic soldering skills, about $10 for parts and some free time. Best application I could think of - small patch changer for Ableton of something. Just find an old tabletop calculator, add some parts and have an hours of fun preset changing :-) http://home.planetahost.ru/~firewood/midifoot10a.zip PS Software is able to send note on, note off, cc, program change on key press. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 08:01:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 897FD3BEE8; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: BAY AREA new music scene: was Noise Pancakes in the news! Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 01:01:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Tim Munengast wrote this about the San Francisco noise scene: "Once again I find myself on the wrong coast. Seems like the West has all the cool cars, the trainspotting action, and the most vibrant avant scene." I agree with you about the coolness of the scene but people should know that the scene, like almost every fringe musical scene in the world, is peopled by people who are fanatical about promoting it and creating opportunities where none appear to be. I just saw an amazing concert with new music luminaries Herny Kaiser, Scott Looney, our own loopers delight member, Italian guitarist Roberto Zorzi and four other really talented musicians. There were four people in the audience. Roberto wrote me back and said he'd love to come play in Northern California and said he'd just need a minimum of three gigs to be able to afford to come (mentioning a sum that would be a rather embarassingly low paid casuals/wedding gig). I had to tell him that it wasn't possible......that even I , who have a decent draw in SF for new musical events considered myself lucky if my expenses are paid when I do a gig (they a frequently aren't) ******** Lately there has been a amazing collection of new music people in the East Bay because many of the bay areas best and brightest young musicians lost there lucrative software day jobs and could no longer afford to live in the pricier cities of San Francisco, San Jose and Santa Cruz. I'm on tribe.net which is full of electronica musicians and it seems like 1/3 of the people on that website are from Oakland. Is there a scene there? No? The reason? Well, at least one of the reasons is that there are very , very few places to play and even if people would play the people would not come out to see them. The other reason I think is that like a lot of people on this list, a lot of people who do new or unusual musics are not particularly social people to begin with but that's the subject for another discussion. My own wife once said, "How ironic is it that we live in the wealthiest empire in the history of the entire planet and that we live in one of the wealthiest per capita urban areas in that vastly wealthy country and that, instead of the arts flourishing with support and patronage, that they are, instead, barely breathing. The singer/songwriter Sam Phillips (the woman, not the man) said, "No matter who is the president of the record company or the A&R person or the lawyers or whatever, the artists never go away. We are always here and we always will be. I say, yeah verily to the Scott Looney's of the world who open up their own homes to money losing new music concerts..........to the Roberto Zorzi's, Bernhard Wagners and Andy Butler's who will risk their own money in an effort to spread their artistry outside of the confines of their own countries and cities; to the Sunao Inami's who will risk the very small amount of money they have to put out recordings of artists who don't recoup their costs just so this beautiful music gets heard; the Matt Davingons' who produces a monthly new music series that rarely pays for itself; to the Murias/Pheaki Boi'a who put his whole financial situation on the line to produce the 1st ever 2 day Dark Elektronika festival in San Francisco and lost his shirt even when the even was a stunning success. If things are happening artistically in the SF Bay Area and environs it is because there are about 30 people who are fanatically committed to 'la causa', come hell or high water.................paying gigs or not. Buy a dinner for one of these people the next time you see them at a gig you dig! It'll lighten their load and keep 'em going, I assure you. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 08:46:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C15533BEDA; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20060406084648881.D74DC1C000A6@mwinf1201.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <4434D577.605@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:46:47 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hidden tracks on cd? References: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9036@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <4434252C.8080300@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > They now offer WaveBurner. Except for burning the audio files you can > also set CD Text, UPC/EAN Code, Default Pause Length, Add Silence At CD > End. Yeah my memory has leaks, it was called WaveBurner I still have a 1.0 version (OS 9 only), but never bothered to update (because it never addressed the issues I though were essential) and didn't hear of it for a long time. Back in my mastering days the only reason to fire it up was to do CD-Text, which was a pretty rare demand. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 10:42:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7F433BEDB; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 06:39:26 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <4434EFDE.7010403@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: <2G9-0C.A.4RC._BPNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:42:07 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ================================================================================ Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ================================================================================ Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Sequences electronic music magazine. The Featured CD at Midnight will be the CD from issue #28. The Vinyl Starter will be "Audentity" by Klaus Schulze on IC Records and released in 1983. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/focus.html#apr Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and on the internet. WDIY now simulcasts on WXLV on 90.3 FM in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania. THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ================================================================================ My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, April 8 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh All times are EDT / GMT-4. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 11:22:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6A423BED2; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <4434EFDE.7010403@soundscapes.us> References: <4434EFDE.7010403@soundscapes.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <99278f18945fe1934d71c6dbb2e20418@virgin.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: geoff smith Subject: getting midi into sooperlooper? Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:22:07 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:22:21 +0000 (UTC) was wondering if someone could tell me what I am missing. I can't seem to get midi into sooperlooper as an audio unit plugin in ableton live5 I have tried using the midi patchbay program but I am lost as to where in sooperlooper itself I tell it where the midi is coming from. i.e. there is usually a select miidi source or port. But I cannot find this anywhere. I have stared at it now for an hour. I am simply trying to use my fcb1010 to control sooperlooper in live. Or just control sooperlooper in general, but can't find the midi preferences in it to select the source, I can find the midi section to learn command/note etc. but not the overall input. any help would be great geoff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 11:30:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6DC93BED6; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4434FBBF.6030303@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:30:07 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: getting midi into sooperlooper? References: <4434EFDE.7010403@soundscapes.us> <99278f18945fe1934d71c6dbb2e20418@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: <99278f18945fe1934d71c6dbb2e20418@virgin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:30:25 +0000 (UTC) you need to set up a midi track. Set the input to be that of the fcb1010, and the output should be routed into the SooperLooper. That's one way. The other way is using the midi assignment mode in Ableton Live (that would be the midi button in the upper right corner) Then expand the sooperlooper plugin by clicking the arrow/triangle logo on the plugin. There are pros and cons to both procedures, which I won't get into here, but the easiest way for you is to do the midi assignments in Live, and the most fun one is doing midi looping with the parameters, possible with the first example. Andreas geoff smith wrote: > was wondering if someone could tell me what I am missing. > I can't seem to get midi into sooperlooper as an audio unit plugin in > ableton live5 > I have tried using the midi patchbay program but I am lost as to where > in sooperlooper itself I tell it where the midi is coming from. i.e. > there is usually a select miidi source or port. But I cannot find this > anywhere. I have stared at it now for an hour. > I am simply trying to use my fcb1010 to control sooperlooper in live. > Or just control sooperlooper in general, but can't find the midi > preferences in it to select the source, I can find the midi section to > learn command/note etc. but not the overall input. > > any help would be great > geoff > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 11:54:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75B953BECC; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Xxkv5r073b7Ht/ezRONBQgQFGc7uzxgiScQi1LL/dtOwmOpDH971Jp/zyE+pnAHiOt9LBunFFEjHCEbGXY578f3bsvPNqolKcboQLEMFZotK+KS43PSmDqECWCQf9bgPEg0zUHXCQza3PAi7A1RCw8iYAeDaxHIg5auUiM2fCCk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <913728d60604051650n2f5eedaco5b3e9fe6f5d4f3c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <913728d60604051650n2f5eedaco5b3e9fe6f5d4f3c7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0B75F6E3-E3D9-4DA9-A5FC-117272E527C2@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Hello from a new looper (sort-of)! Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:53:55 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:54:01 +0000 (UTC) On 6 apr 2006, at 01.50, Charlie Milkey wrote: > kinda interested in ambient music and this is what i came up with :) > http://www.myspace.com/thirdorderoftheslaphappypinapple "Concave" is my favorite! I just wish it was longer... ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 12:25:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDE933BECA; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-72.messagelabs.com!1144326326!34020668!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC905A@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Hidden tracks on cd? Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:25:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C65975.2E72F7D0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:25:30 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C65975.2E72F7D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>They now offer WaveBurner. Except for burning the audio files you can also set CD Text, UPC/EAN Code, Default Pause Length, Add Silence At CD End.<< ah, waveburner. I've seen this thing on my girlfriend's g5. it's horrible! :-) I prefer (when I am forced to do this by her pleading & whining) to burn the cd straight from the bounce page in logic. I just don't trust anything that I don't get an intuitive grasp of, & waveburner is probably the least intuitively graspable audio-cd tools I've ever seen. but it's probably my fault for using cd architect for 8 years. I still haven't got my head around logic itself yet. duncan. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. 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CD End.<<

ah, waveburner. I've seen this thing on my girlfriend's g= 5. it's horrible! :-)  I prefer (when I am forced to do this by her pl= eading & whining) to burn the cd straight from the bounce page in logic= .

I just don't trust anything that I don't get an intuitive= grasp of, & waveburner is probably the least intuitively graspable aud= io-cd tools I've ever seen. but it's probably my fault for using cd archite= ct for 8 years. I still haven't got my head around logic itself yet.=

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C65975.2E72F7D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 14:11:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C6513BEC2; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=khZ9EtEUU+3RIuGvFJSMTPXnEM72fCubkBhcH6eHKx28ApK+muixuhDIAzGWGjCL5/MnRLVtw+GI91d+KnEvokZKkhkbLNk2SjaE9GpOkwaHj1+HrwQgqbCuBA1nxH99cgQVCnrKcCsHDYrNTC2BZTgR8SrQfI0uI82DxU3qjtA= ; Message-ID: <20060406141109.9343.qmail@web52015.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Rafko M Subject: Re: Impedance question (was: AW: 2 Questions) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1289633718-1144332669=:9064" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <6pkB-B.A.FKH._FSNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:11:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-1289633718-1144332669=:9064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit These devices should do the job (converting line level impedance to Hi-Z), but they are not as inexpensive: 1) Reamp http://www.reamp.com/ 2) Radial X-amp http://www.radialeng.com/di-xamp.htm 3) Radial Pro RMP http://www.zzounds.com/item--RADPRORMP The last one is the least expensive of the three. Rafko RP Collier wrote: On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:08 PM, matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > ie something that will take the > line level signal from the Repeater's output & change it to a level > that my > amps FX loop can handle? If not, I will just have to purchase a > pair of > monitors, but it'd be nice to solve the whole issue with a couple > of $25 > boxes. Ebtech makes a little box called a Line Level shifter. Also works as a hum eliminator. Can't remember the price, probably $45 or so. regards BobCo http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://tinyurl.com/cr25j --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. --0-1289633718-1144332669=:9064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
These devices should do the job (converting line level impedance to Hi-Z), but they are not as inexpensive:
 
 
The last one is the least expensive of the three.
 
Rafko

RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:08 PM, matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote:

> ie something that will take the
> line level signal from the Repeater's output & change it to a level
> that my
> amps FX loop can handle? If not, I will just have to purchase a
> pair of
> monitors, but it'd be nice to solve the whole issue with a couple
> of $25
> boxes.


Ebtech makes a little box called a Line Level shifter. Also works as
a hum eliminator.
Can't remember the price, probably $45 or so.

regards

BobCo

http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2
http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier
http://tinyurl.com/cr25j


Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. --0-1289633718-1144332669=:9064-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 15:04:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBCFF3BEC7; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HbCw1q4Bccn4MHH9/sgnkL2HPMmvc8RSnqD+M8O5nT0NmnJ/GQoVr9K4nlw/uhhqoiDxT/qyq8UT2/vRedPLlu72+KMYw72eWPZuoOfykI1r1gX6hrVzGeqDrvPVj+4185TJshSBN1gQ1m4ai1az6ebfuPqNABrK6iGlwziuJcw= Message-ID: <913728d60604060804q6630fca3lfcbb9fe5ae2fda8d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:04:44 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hello from a new looper (sort-of)! In-Reply-To: <0B75F6E3-E3D9-4DA9-A5FC-117272E527C2@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4192_19946316.1144335884178" References: <913728d60604051650n2f5eedaco5b3e9fe6f5d4f3c7@mail.gmail.com> <0B75F6E3-E3D9-4DA9-A5FC-117272E527C2@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:04:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4192_19946316.1144335884178 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Yeah, i didn't realize that i only made it a little less than 2 minutes! :D i was considering lengthening it, or just making it a "in between" track fo= r two longer ones... one of those... Thanks to everyone who added me in their myspace as well! Charlie On 4/6/06, Per Boysen wrote: > > On 6 apr 2006, at 01.50, Charlie Milkey wrote: > > > kinda interested in ambient music and this is what i came up with :) > > http://www.myspace.com/thirdorderoftheslaphappypinapple > > "Concave" is my favorite! I just wish it was longer... ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > ------=_Part_4192_19946316.1144335884178 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Yeah, i didn't realize that i only made it a little less than 2 minute= s! :D
i was considering lengthening it, or just making it a "in between= " track for two longer ones...
one of those...
 
Thanks to everyone who added me in their myspace as well!
Charlie

 
On 4/6/06, P= er Boysen <perboysen@gmail.co= m> wrote:
On 6 apr 2006, at 01.50, Charlie= Milkey wrote:

> kinda interested in ambient music and this is wh= at i came up with :)
> http://www.myspace.com/thirdorderoftheslaphappypinapple

"= Concave" is my favorite! I just wish it was longer... ;-)

Greet= ings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (S= wedish)
www.looproom.com (intern= ational)
http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast)





------=_Part_4192_19946316.1144335884178-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 15:25:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E4D63BED2; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:27:25 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: BAY AREA new music scene: was Noise Pancakes in the news! In-reply-to: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:25:55 +0000 (UTC) I loved the Bay Area when I lived there, but certainly the new music scene was struggling for an audience, but not for excellent artists. Rick left out one vital component of the scene there: the schools. I was at the Mills College CCM (along with Art Simon and I'm sure others from this list), which was (and, I presume, still is) an amazing place, but there's also CCRMA at Stanford, CNMAT at UC Berkeley, SF State, Hayward, SJ State - all have internationally-recognized staff and programs in electronic music (and related courses). So there does tend to be a core group, a built-in audience, for university-related events in the Bay Area(at least there was when I was around). How much that helps those who aren't exactly in that community, I don't know. Interest in new music events by the general public - in any urban center - seems to have a lot to do with whether the sponsor has promotion dollars and/or is well-known, and how theatrically-conceived the event is. I've seen a fairly sizable auditorium filled for a new music performances at Stanford, for instance - but the performance also featured tribal drums and costumes and the posters were colorful and exciting. I'd also characterize at least some of the Laurie Anderson tours as "new music", and she was packing very large venues (by my standards). Anyway, where else but the Bay Area do you have a daily morning radio show on a major station (KPFA) that interviews new music composers, including many unknowns, and showcases their work for - I don't know, maybe tens of thousands of listeners? I don't know what the current state of the Morning Concert is, but Charles Amirkhanian and Russ Jennings were doing an amazing service there for many years. Best wishes, Warren Sirota Come hear *The Sandbox* at The Monkey in NYC, April 23rd, 8PM - details at www.warrensirota.com/sandbox > -----Original Message----- > From: loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] > Lately there has been a amazing collection of new music > people in the East > Bay because many of the bay areas best and brightest > young musicians lost there lucrative software day jobs and > could no longer > afford to live in the pricier cities of > San Francisco, San Jose and Santa Cruz. I'm on tribe.net > which is full of > electronica musicians and it seems like > 1/3 of the people on that website are from Oakland. > > Is there a scene there? No? The reason? Well, at > least one of > the reasons is that there are very , very few places to play > and even if > people would play the people would not come out to see them. > The other > reason I think is that like a lot of people on this list, a > lot of people > who do new or unusual musics are not particularly social > people to begin > with but that's the subject for another discussion. > > My own wife once said, "How ironic is it that we live in the > wealthiest > empire in the history of the entire planet and that we > live in one of the wealthiest per capita urban areas in that > vastly wealthy > country and that, instead of the arts flourishing > with support and patronage, that they are, instead, barely breathing. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 15:34:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2B6E3BED3; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060406082133.01bc1150@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:34:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Music (Was: music is not political) In-Reply-To: <4434C031.2020906@addcom.de> References: <20060405214758.E6E6D3BF0D@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405225406.02bbaeb0@tiscali.co.uk> <4434C031.2020906@addcom.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:34:11 +0000 (UTC) At 12:16 AM 4/6/2006, you wrote: >There is also an emotional understanding, which is required. To >quote Xenakis: Music is not a language. >But it has an aspect of communication. The musician does express >some feelings, the listener will resonate if there is an emotional >understanding. The feelings of the performer and the feelings of the >listener do not need to be the same, (no language with clear >mappings) but it needs to have a common space of resonance otherwise >nothing would happen. >I did not refer to intellectual understanding, this could even >distract the resonances, but sometimes it can also help... I think that music is beyond language and emotion, although it touches both. The more I become involved in music, the more inarticulate I become in discussing it in the abstract. There is continuing scientific research that shows how music enmeshes structures in our brains. But I sense music more in a spiritual sense these days. In transcendent performances, musicians and audience commune rather than communicate. Cheers, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 15:48:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1342E3BECA; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=OhKYgAvgpT/Ozk8rZYAwnzhBRYOtm3wSm3tgRtu7iCVwSxTJCaTZvexA1wj5GDPF; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <12081483.1144338530232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:48:49 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: mungenast@earthlink.net Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: hey Jeff! Re: max loopers in chicago....choir boys.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da94070318ca37622b5168042ad80cfba5554350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.43 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Hey Jeff... your disc is on its way. Enjoy. ~Tim www.myspace.com/timmungenast -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Kaiser >Sent: Apr 5, 2006 10:44 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: max loopers in chicago....choir boys.... > >For those of you in the Chicago area.... > >"The Choir Boys" >Jeff Kaiser, quarter-tone trumpet, electronics >Andrew Pask, woodwinds electronics >with >Don Malone, voice and electronics > >Tuesday April 11th 8pm Live on WNUR 89.3 FM http://www.wnur.org/ >Wednesday April 12th 9:30pm & 11pm Empty Bottle www.emptybottle.com >Thursday April 13th 7:30pm Roosevelt University >http://ccpa.roosevelt.edu/ccpa/concert.asp >Friday April 14th 10:30pm & 11:30pm Elastic Arts / 3030 >http://www.elasticrevolution.com/ >Saturday April 15th Hotti Biscotti (773) 772-9970 > >FYI, Andrew and I both use loopers built in max/msp....he has a >fascinating "loop harvester" that is constantly and randomly grabbing >live audio and looping / processing it. I use a more "traditional" >approach and selectively loop and layer.... > > >Jeff Kaiser >http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com >pfMENTUM.com ? AngryVegan.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 15:54:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCFFE3BEE4; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:54:35 -0300 From: Andrew Duke Subject: sound fx for loopin' To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 Resent-Message-ID: <5W5n1B.A.g_B.AnTNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Hey, Loopers (check out that Choir Boys CD on pfMENTUM, BTW): If any of ya'll need some crazy sound fx, this zip is available for a limited time (royalty-free, just let me know what you use it for/in if you use anything): http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeFXlimited.zip -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 16:06:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C43DC3BED6; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060406083736.01bf4758@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:06:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Music Scene (Was: BAY AREA new music scene) In-Reply-To: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <8RGQRB.A.yOC.rxTNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:06:03 +0000 (UTC) At 01:01 AM 4/6/2006, you wrote: >I agree with you about the coolness of the scene but people should know that >the scene, like almost every fringe musical scene in the world, is peopled >by people who are fanatical about promoting it and creating opportunities >where none appear to be. This is universal and is true of all emerging and fringe musical scenes. We hear blues everywhere now but until the 60's most of the now-famous blues musicians had day jobs and played nights in some of the nastiest bars imaginable. >Is there a scene there? No? The reason? Well, at least >one of the reasons is that there are very , very few places to play >and even if people would play the people would not come out to see >them. The other reason I think is that like a lot of people on >this list, a lot of people who do new or unusual musics are not >particularly social people to begin with but that's the subject for >another discussion. Creating a scene is a social activity. It takes a lot of talking and hanging out and developing a core of cool people who other people want to hang out with and emulate. It requires fashion and morays. Creating a scene has very little to do with the music but building the soil that allows the music to flourish. Creating a big scene requires young people and a continuing venue. It also helps to have a front man (or woman) who most people find extremely attractive. >My own wife once said, "How ironic is it that we live in the >wealthiest empire in the history of the entire planet and that we >live in one of the wealthiest per capita urban areas in that vastly >wealthy country and that, instead of the arts flourishing >with support and patronage, that they are, instead, barely breathing. As an example, consider the painters now called the Great Masters. The Great Masters's painting technique is almost beyond belief--on some of the work you can't see brushstrokes, even with your nose almost touching the canvas. The Great Masters flourished during a time of tremendous wealth in Europe. But think what they mostly did: they painted portraits of wealthy patrons and religious scenes for wealthy churches. It's the same now. You want to be a working musician but you don't want to compose music for ads and you don't want to teach and you don't want to do session work for (often) hack artists? Best of luck! >the artists never go away. We are always here and we always will be. Creative people have to create. If I couldn't create, I'd go mad. I think that applies to a lot of people. But we have to accept that we have to do other things to support our creative activities. 'Twas ever so. >I say, yeah verily to the Scott Looney's of the world... Kudos to you, too, Rick. And Kirsten. And Kim. And the other folks on this list who work hard in their spare moments to keep the looper and new music communities going. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 16:20:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 651AB3BEDB; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3nki@modaldub.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <4434C031.2020906@addcom.de> References: <20060405214758.E6E6D3BF0D@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405225406.02bbaeb0@tiscali.co.uk> <4434C031.2020906@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0B2BCC8F-C9C8-4907-84F2-036952019DB7@modaldub.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:20:09 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - space.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - modaldub.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:20:23 +0000 (UTC) this reminds me on an idea i read somewhere, somewhen i can't recall atm... anyway, the idea was essentially that before (what we now consider) language humans communicated in a much wider range of symbols but also much less widely-understood. as language developed as a widely universalized understanding of specific symbols (words), this took one-half of the previous communications content - the literal half, the half containing specific quantifiable meanings. the other half of pre-language communication was, roughly, absorbed into an abstract form we now call music. so, according to my semi-hazy recollection of this idea, music is communication, but of a more abstract type than language (spoken or written). there are complex emotions and ideas that can be communicated in music but not in language. and vice-versa of course. to me it seems they both have their needs and uses, strengths and weaknesses, etc. for example, something like communicating "pass me the potatoes" might be hard to do in music and easy in language, whereas the exact feeling of sadness one has being gone from home for a while is easier to communicate in music. in music it seems more possible to communicate an individuals feelings specifically, whereas in language it is necessarily more impersonal and generic. i'm not saying this is true or false, right or wrong, communist or anarchist - just an interesting idea. -3nki On Apr 6, 2006, at 4:16 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > a k butler wrote: >> I'm not at all sure that one has to understand music to enjoy it. >> Rather the opposite, if anything. > > There is also an emotional understanding, which is required. To > quote Xenakis: Music is not a language. > But it has an aspect of communication. The musician does express > some feelings, the listener will resonate if there is an emotional > understanding. The feelings of the performer and the feelings of > the listener do not need to be the same, (no language with clear > mappings) but it needs to have a common space of resonance > otherwise nothing would happen. > I did not refer to intellectual understanding, this could even > distract the resonances, but sometimes it can also help... > > If I don't like music, I should consider not understanding it, to > be able to finally find the beauty in it. But still if I > understand, I could dislike it... If I don't, I don't know yet if I > could like it. > > Stefan > > -- > > [][] [][][] [][] [][][] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > Stefan Tiedje > Klanggestalter > Electronic Composition > & > Improvisation > > /~~~~~\ > \\\ /|() ()|\ > ))))) )| | |( \\\ > /// \ \_/)/ ))))) > \___/ /// > > -------------------------x---- > --_____-----------|----------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- > -- _|_)----|-----()----------- > ----------()------------x----- > > 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, > 94320 Thiais, France > Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 16:31:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4973F3BED0; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20060406123134.hwl8ntkldatssook@www.michaelplishka.com> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:31:34 -0400 From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: loop set in Chitown References: <12081483.1144338530232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <12081483.1144338530232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 502] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:31:43 +0000 (UTC) For those in the Chicago area, I'll be playing a set at Kitty Moon's, 6237 N Clark, Chicago, at the Songsalive! Showcase. It's from 9pm to 11pm this Saturday, April 8th. Not sure what slot I'll have but the talent will be, as always, amazing and it'll be an honor to share the stage with such high caliber artists. I'm doing looping but not exclusively. The rest of the artists are more traditional music. If you come by, say Hi! I do believe there is a $5 donation suggested. ~peace~ Michael Plishka www.michaelplishka.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 16:33:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F0723BED6; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20060406123338.ukdw6bvinwkko8w8@www.michaelplishka.com> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:33:38 -0400 From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music (Was: music is not political) References: <20060405214758.E6E6D3BF0D@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405225406.02bbaeb0@tiscali.co.uk> <4434C031.2020906@addcom.de> <7.0.0.16.0.20060406082133.01bc1150@TheNettles.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060406082133.01bc1150@TheNettles.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 502] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Where words fail, music speaks.-Hans Christian Anderson Quoting Kevin : > At 12:16 AM 4/6/2006, you wrote: > I think that music is beyond language and emotion, although it > touches both. The more I become involved in music, the more > inarticulate I become in discussing it in the abstract. There is > continuing scientific research that shows how music enmeshes > structures in our brains. But I sense music more in a spiritual > sense these days. In transcendent performances, musicians and > audience commune rather than communicate. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music > www.TheNettles.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 16:57:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81A153BED6; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44354857.2000000@hushmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:56:55 -0400 From: Jim Shepherd Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Instructables: diy cheap looper for "under $20" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Ok, now I know that not too many of us would want to incorporate this into a rig, but I admire the stark goofiness of it. http://www.instructables.com/ex/i/BAB06A8A161A10299AD7001143E7E506/ sorry if it's a repost... Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 17:05:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80633BED9; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44354983.1070707@speakeasy.net> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:01:55 -0700 From: Dennis Montgomery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: midi note footcontroller EDP+ recommendations References: <20060406055029.79B783BEDF@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20060406055029.79B783BEDF@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I've been researching midi foot controllers for my stereo EDP+ system. I currently use a cheap Roland PC200 midi kybd to send note number messages but I'm looking for something in a pedalboard configuration. I first checked out the FCB1010 but it appears only pedal 10 can send a midi note number message. Then I checked out the Roland FC200 which says it can send midi note messages from each of the 10 footswitches...this sounds much more like what I'm looking for. I can't find a manual online and was wondering if it can send multiple note numbers per footswitch? Anyone have experience with the FC200 or something else that sends midi note #'s that would be a better fit for my system? Thanks, Dennis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 17:29:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9588A3BED9; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3262.128.193.37.212.1144344583.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <44354857.2000000@hushmail.com> References: <44354857.2000000@hushmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Instructables: diy cheap looper for "under $20" From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:29:46 +0000 (UTC) > Ok, now I know that not too many of us would want to incorporate this > into a rig, but I admire the stark goofiness of it. > http://www.instructables.com/ex/i/BAB06A8A161A10299AD7001143E7E506/ Hmmm. If you could make one button both end recording and start looping this would be a cool thing to add to your guitar circuitry. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 18:53:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 815193BECA; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <20f.1527fd94.3166bd74@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:52:36 EDT Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Lighting Idea for Loopers! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_20f.1527fd94.3166bd74_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:53:04 +0000 (UTC) --part1_20f.1527fd94.3166bd74_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/5/06 10:18:57 PM, looppool@cruzio.com writes: > MCing a goth fashion > show that he designed > dagylo outfits for. > craig.....i bet you could come up with a great LD tea shirt!.....nay! a LD JUMPSUIT with hood!.....:)m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_20f.1527fd94.3166bd74_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/5/06 10:18:57 PM, looppool@cruzio.com writes:


MCing a goth fashion<= BR> show that he designed
dagylo outfits for.


craig.....i bet you could come up with a great LD tea shirt!.....nay! a L= D JUMPSUIT with hood!.....:)m



www.ct-collective.com
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11
 --part1_20f.1527fd94.3166bd74_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 19:07:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B9A53BEDF; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> Subject: Re: sound fx for loopin' Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:07:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 525, in=274526, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <07ynz.A.IkH.KcWNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:07:55 +0000 (UTC) I downloaded this file, but it won't open. An error message says that it is not a valid archive file. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Duke" To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: sound fx for loopin' > Hey, Loopers (check out that Choir Boys CD on pfMENTUM, BTW): > If any of ya'll need some crazy sound fx, this zip is available for > a limited time (royalty-free, just let me know what you use it for/in if > you use anything): > http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeFXlimited.zip > > -- > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > http://myspace.com/andrewduke > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 19:10:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D3873BEEE; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation-Mail-From: loopersdelight@swyatt.com via u15184937 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(88.109.254.225):SA:0(-0.7/5.0):. Processed in 2.750599 secs Process 9822) Message-ID: <44356795.2040406@swyatt.com> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:10:13 +0100 From: Stuart Wyatt User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: midi note footcontroller EDP+ recommendations References: <20060406055029.79B783BEDF@arsenic.violacea.com> <44354983.1070707@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <44354983.1070707@speakeasy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0614-2, 04/06/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Dennis Montgomery wrote: >[snip] I first checked out the FCB1010 but it appears only pedal 10 can send a > midi note number message. I'm afraid you have it wrong. Every patch can send Midi note messages (as well as 5 PC and 2 CC messages!).... Pedal 10 is the button used when programming the individual patches to send midi note messages. In my opinion, for the price, there is nothing that even comes close to the FCB1010. - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 19:19:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09AB23BEDD; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <3262.128.193.37.212.1144344583.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <44354857.2000000@hushmail.com> <3262.128.193.37.212.1144344583.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <69a45e15e91de0d441ec50b6aeea58a9@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suit & Tie Guy Subject: Re: Instructables: diy cheap looper for "under $20" Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:19:04 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:19:06 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:29 PM, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > Hmmm. If you could make one button both end recording and start > looping this > would be a cool thing to add to your guitar circuitry. use a DT momentary footswitch and wire the other throw to where this guy was telling you to put the toggle. in fact, i might do this _tonight_. --- Suit & Tie Guy www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 20:05:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2B633BED9; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000b01c659b5$63536440$6401a8c0@Davidportable> From: "David O'Heare" To: References: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: sound fx for loopin' Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:04:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Dang, me too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:07 PM Subject: Re: sound fx for loopin' >I downloaded this file, but it won't open. An error message says that it is >not a valid archive file. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Duke" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:54 AM > Subject: sound fx for loopin' > > >> Hey, Loopers (check out that Choir Boys CD on pfMENTUM, BTW): >> If any of ya'll need some crazy sound fx, this zip is available for >> a limited time (royalty-free, just let me know what you use it for/in if >> you use anything): >> http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeFXlimited.zip >> >> -- >> Andrew Duke >> scoring/sound design/source >> http://andrew-duke.com >> http://myspace.com/andrewduke >> Cognition Audioworks label >> [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] >> http://cognitionaudioworks.com >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 20:05:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 234FE3BEDB; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 21:00:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: collaboration with Bernhard Wagner Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4435816E.5112.2CD1C14@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:05:37 +0000 (UTC) For the past few months, I've been working some of Bernhard's loops (with his approval, they were posted on his website) alongside my own into arrangements for a CD project - if I can find someone to release it. Since we're both busy and collaboration over distance (Sheffield, Yorkshire - Zurich) isn't a rapid process, we've decided that this should be "my" project, since the arrangements and mixes are mine, although we hope to get together and do some "proper" recording at some point! There's a somewhat low-fi mp3 mix of the 1st piece on my website under audio - hope you like it! http://www.nickrobinson.info/music All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 20:29:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B9633BEE4; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <4434FBBF.6030303@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4434EFDE.7010403@soundscapes.us> <99278f18945fe1934d71c6dbb2e20418@virgin.net> <4434FBBF.6030303@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: geoff smith Subject: Re: getting midi into sooperlooper? Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:29:46 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Thankyou Andreas for taking the time I am up and running. brilliant cheers geoff On 6 Apr 2006, at 12:30, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: > you need to set up a midi track. Set the input to be that of the > fcb1010, and the output should be routed into the SooperLooper. That's > one way. > > The other way is using the midi assignment mode in Ableton Live (that > would be the midi button in the upper right corner) Then expand the > sooperlooper plugin by clicking the arrow/triangle logo on the plugin. > > There are pros and cons to both procedures, which I won't get into > here, but the easiest way for you is to do the midi assignments in > Live, and the most fun one is doing midi looping with the parameters, > possible with the first example. > > Andreas > > geoff smith wrote: >> was wondering if someone could tell me what I am missing. >> I can't seem to get midi into sooperlooper as an audio unit plugin in >> ableton live5 >> I have tried using the midi patchbay program but I am lost as to >> where in sooperlooper itself I tell it where the midi is coming from. >> i.e. there is usually a select miidi source or port. But I cannot >> find this anywhere. I have stared at it now for an hour. >> I am simply trying to use my fcb1010 to control sooperlooper in live. >> Or just control sooperlooper in general, but can't find the midi >> preferences in it to select the source, I can find the midi section >> to learn command/note etc. but not the overall input. >> any help would be great >> geoff >> . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 20:32:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B02D3BEE6; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <44356795.2040406@swyatt.com> References: <20060406055029.79B783BEDF@arsenic.violacea.com> <44354983.1070707@speakeasy.net> <44356795.2040406@swyatt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <657f09189316a5dfd03ac6ad3579f868@virgin.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: geoff smith Subject: Re: midi note footcontroller EDP+ recommendations Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:31:55 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Agreed nothing close to the fcb for the money but with size 10+ feet the gap between pedals is too small and constantly annoying. geoff On 6 Apr 2006, at 20:10, Stuart Wyatt wrote: > Dennis Montgomery wrote: >> [snip] I first checked out the FCB1010 but it appears only pedal 10 >> can send a midi note number message. > > I'm afraid you have it wrong. Every patch can send Midi note messages > (as well as 5 PC and 2 CC messages!).... Pedal 10 is the button used > when programming the individual patches to send midi note messages. > > In my opinion, for the price, there is nothing that even comes close > to the FCB1010. > > - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 20:42:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B22573BEE4; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Cg6B9/r2VVtEw42nq6RuFl6GNxD3OEj6KdcEJrmD5AUqzGv1CN7VhXn4QeTUt2QHcCn+tKHiBJMim92o74cgVVnkWaw/GsJZjUJA/6ftUAMX6fvVg4eajJNmLa6NQCOrBzK8M/1Q5aCvfR8PFN8snZJ//uSJsImTkfJi3m2vbvs= ; Message-ID: <20060406204108.42263.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: BAY AREA new music scene: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:42:26 +0000 (UTC) > > The other reason I think is that like a lot of people on > this list, a lot of people who do new or unusual musics are not >particularly social people to begin with but that's the subject for another > discussion. I've lived in New York City (well, across the bridge at least) and Ithaca, NY and they both had WAY better new music scenes than SF. Sorry to step on anyone's toes, but from my experiences this is what I've seen. I don't really understand why, but when I first moved out here in 1988 I struggled to find a band interested in doing something new and eventually joined a Ska band just because I wanted to play! After being in that band for a few months, I was told, "no practice next week, we'll call you and let you know when the next one is." That call never came. I later ran into the drummer who told me the original guitarest had returned to the states and they took him back. Nice. Thanks for the notice. Bitter? Sure. Shortly after, I moved to Ithaca, NY and was able to instantly find people to play with and put together a pretty kick ass band. Why? Maybe it's because people there don't have to spend 100% of their time working to pay rent? Anyway, this tiny college town had a thriving new music scene. Moved back to SF in 99. Things have changed a bit for the better for sure, but they're still not great. I've given up trying to find a co-looper or do live gigs. I've put up and answered ads to no avail. I had one response from a Looper on LD but they never returned my emails. I've done a few gigs at 29 Grand in Oakland, but it ended up just being me playing to my friends. Very nice woman named Sarah runs it though, so if you're looking for a venu I'd say start there. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 20:52:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D25F3BEEA; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44357EBC.9000304@speakeasy.net> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:49:00 -0700 From: Dennis Montgomery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: midi note footcontroller EDP+ recommendations References: <20060406202957.1E8A53BEE6@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20060406202957.1E8A53BEE6@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Someone on the list emailed me directly after my initial post to correct me on this (Thanks Travis). I'm very happy that I was wrong! I just got back home with a new FCB1010 from the guitar center around the corner from my house :-) Dennis | I'm afraid you have it wrong. Every patch can send Midi note messages (as well as 5 PC and 2 CC | messages!).... Pedal 10 is the button used when programming the individual patches to send midi note | messages. | In my opinion, for the price, there is nothing that even comes close to the FCB1010. | | - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 21:17:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75FE13BEDC; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Fwea5CsFewfc0kFfTWaRoo01qbskOGAnz3kgrsuDaaq8PGBVQ/DOQ8Q8sm2c4l1PTNJ+Wqvh37CM+MVEq+b8pulR40/UkBCOV3EHS864DBtNC1x8HdJh+7h53qy3NZAVqz7VFutAvyS+Ft3BV1jXdUiJhz3XKvlFhdq2ZbYk+Fo= In-Reply-To: <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <567820D1-3A62-477F-95DB-E658831DD323@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: sound fx for loopin' Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:17:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:17:34 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I downloaded this file, but it won't open. An error message says > that it is not a valid archive file. I think their server was blipping. Check the size of the file you downloaded. It is supposed to be 65mb, the tail portion of the file may have been cut off. The first file I downloaded came in at 60mb with no error messages or time-outs but the file would not unzip. But I tried again and got the full file and it unzipped. regards BobCo http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://tinyurl.com/cr25j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 21:32:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53DBD3BED9; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1e5101c659c1$995da850$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <567820D1-3A62-477F-95DB-E658831DD323@gmail.com> Subject: Re: sound fx for loopin' Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:32:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 524, in=265250, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:32:31 +0000 (UTC) It's still blipping...not even accessible now. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "RP Collier" To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:17 PM Subject: Re: sound fx for loopin' > > On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> I downloaded this file, but it won't open. An error message says >> that it is not a valid archive file. > > > I think their server was blipping. > Check the size of the file you downloaded. It is supposed to be 65mb, > the tail portion of the file may have been cut off. > The first file I downloaded came in at 60mb with no error messages or > time-outs but the file would not unzip. > But I tried again and got the full file and it unzipped. > > regards > > BobCo > > > > http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 > http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier > http://tinyurl.com/cr25j > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 21:40:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C1683BEE2; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zsrjwAWEK7/cpDNVN9V6vJJWgpNvAmS5b/+gpIcFDL9ZeoFKjVKdmGGayE5biSigXpFOGrMF8RgOQvKICifn42nQSJBxHYj407cRZG/AgmvNnoxNPnDyFcV4mQFfZFnChOddr4jEA0bUJfsA54rjWqErGr3Pqkh4MUORdrcb8gA= ; Message-ID: <20060406214001.34721.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: state of the loop To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:40:04 +0000 (UTC) for the social and anti-social of us who loop sound... "its a hell of a start.it could be made into a monster if we all pull together as a team." surf the gravy. scary visionary. more floyd quotes to come... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 21:58:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 008F93BEE2; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KInX8hIERk0ngL+0CaC2/91y3jErvXXl3RX2n3G2qqueLIdg7GVPWuXQNlfEtkKg4afl1U3fOEFXUML+hI/eeSYQ7taedtii6AlbVXvoQYipHIIEuAu2w6RvaCMzHQ3nG9cn8mESalHa99baiJfAvyEsWMb9LFRSjt8oIC0/ltc= ; Message-ID: <20060406215856.26737.qmail@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:58:56 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: Hello from a new looper (sort-of)! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <913728d60604051650n2f5eedaco5b3e9fe6f5d4f3c7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:58:57 +0000 (UTC) hi charlie.i like those sounds,very groovy.that"ahhhhh" had a bit of rodger waters bass thump to it or maby im just in a floydian mood today.i can dig it. trippy. scary visionary. --- Charlie Milkey wrote: > Hi everybody! > > I just wanted to say Hi to everybody, my name is > Charlie, and i have > been getting the emails for about a year, and i > figure since i am > starting to know some of the answers to the > questions you guys (and > gals) have, I figure i might introduce myself! > > anyways, i am primarily a bass player, i have been > looping for two > years now. I first started on the Boss RC-20, and > now with the advice > of my guitar player, i have had a lexicon jamman for > about a year > now...very cool box... > > anyways, i gotta say that a lot of the music that > has been coming from > the people on this site has just been > awesome...before i signed up > here, i have already heard Steve Lawson (who between > him and my guitar > player got me interested in looping) and Kris > Hartung. I look forward > to hearing what everybody else has! > > I feel kinda bad, but here is what i have to offer > so far, compared to > what else is going on here this is very > non-professional, but i am > kinda interested in ambient music and this is what i > came up with :) > http://www.myspace.com/thirdorderoftheslaphappypinapple > > (btw the band name is just a working title :) ) > > Charlie > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 22:01:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C2133BEF3; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4429.128.193.37.212.1144360915.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060406083736.01bf4758@TheNettles.com> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060406083736.01bf4758@TheNettles.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Music Scene (Was: BAY AREA new music scene) From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:01:57 +0000 (UTC) > At 01:01 AM 4/6/2006, I wrote: > Kudos to you, too, Rick. And Kirsten. And Kim. And _Krispen_. And all the rest. Sorry, my fingers are dumber than my brain and neither of them talks to one another as much as they used to. *<:O) Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 22:06:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 711053BEF7; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443590FB.5020804@pdq.net> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:06:51 -0500 From: Doug Cox User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: state of the loop References: <20060406214001.34721.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060406214001.34721.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Floyd quote? You've got your scary monsters mixed up. :) daniel stevenson wrote: > for the social and anti-social of us who loop sound... > "its a hell of a start.it could be made into a monster > if we all pull together as a team." > surf the gravy. > scary visionary. > > > more floyd quotes to come... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 22:15:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4D753BEF8; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Co53vM7dxjbZyFzUsPzF3NUBPIaVR6EaMrYA12drsO49mnnxIsi+Ud5710Ac6J9be0CY/+d8fwyij5cUKhiBLzGtAevHNijplu1MJ3vrBs85inPF+vAlkyY3jyz8JdwCQyH886KxNzCtPyeii890A4MGLny+HqVELnAt69cLKcA= Message-ID: <913728d60604061515x1eda460eid0cef23ff9ee5e74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:15:04 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hello from a new looper (sort-of)! In-Reply-To: <20060406215856.26737.qmail@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <913728d60604051650n2f5eedaco5b3e9fe6f5d4f3c7@mail.gmail.com> <20060406215856.26737.qmail@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8IKq8C.A.Ib.pLZNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:15:05 +0000 (UTC) yeah, AHHHHH! isn't really a looped or ambient song, but i was proud of the fact that a while ago i learned how to transfer drum loops from reason to Cool Edit Pro, the recording software of choice of those days...now its all garageband! Thanks for listening :) Charlie On 4/6/06, daniel stevenson wrote: > hi charlie.i like those sounds,very > groovy.that"ahhhhh" had a bit of rodger waters bass > thump to it or maby im just in a floydian mood today.i > can dig it. trippy. > scary visionary. > > --- Charlie Milkey wrote: > > > Hi everybody! > > > > I just wanted to say Hi to everybody, my name is > > Charlie, and i have > > been getting the emails for about a year, and i > > figure since i am > > starting to know some of the answers to the > > questions you guys (and > > gals) have, I figure i might introduce myself! > > > > anyways, i am primarily a bass player, i have been > > looping for two > > years now. I first started on the Boss RC-20, and > > now with the advice > > of my guitar player, i have had a lexicon jamman for > > about a year > > now...very cool box... > > > > anyways, i gotta say that a lot of the music that > > has been coming from > > the people on this site has just been > > awesome...before i signed up > > here, i have already heard Steve Lawson (who between > > him and my guitar > > player got me interested in looping) and Kris > > Hartung. I look forward > > to hearing what everybody else has! > > > > I feel kinda bad, but here is what i have to offer > > so far, compared to > > what else is going on here this is very > > non-professional, but i am > > kinda interested in ambient music and this is what i > > came up with :) > > > http://www.myspace.com/thirdorderoftheslaphappypinapple > > > > (btw the band name is just a working title :) ) > > > > Charlie > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 23:01:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BD9B3BEF9; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <029101c659cd$faceea70$6401a8c0@Davidportable> From: "David O'Heare" To: References: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <567820D1-3A62-477F-95DB-E658831DD323@gmail.com> <1e5101c659c1$995da850$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: sound fx for loopin' Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:01:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <4udIkD.A.JlB.62ZNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Funny, I got it... Of course, the file names are hopeless. Oh well, I'll listen and rename. Whaddya expect fer nuthin'? Dave O'H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 5:32 PM Subject: Re: sound fx for loopin' > It's still blipping...not even accessible now. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RP Collier" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: sound fx for loopin' > > >> >> On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> I downloaded this file, but it won't open. An error message says that >>> it is not a valid archive file. >> >> >> I think their server was blipping. >> Check the size of the file you downloaded. It is supposed to be 65mb, >> the tail portion of the file may have been cut off. >> The first file I downloaded came in at 60mb with no error messages or >> time-outs but the file would not unzip. >> But I tried again and got the full file and it unzipped. >> >> regards >> >> BobCo >> >> >> >> http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 >> http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier >> http://tinyurl.com/cr25j >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 6 23:26:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D70B53BF00; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:34:35 -0400 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: Re: LP1/FCB1010 To: Message-id: <000e01c659d2$aa6b49c0$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Nice. This programming you mention; is it done on the Looperlative or the midipedal? Is this midi programming, or something else unique to the Looperlative? Thanks for your help with my questions! David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: Re: LP1/FCB1010 > >>> > For the sake of conversation, let's call the sequence of events you > describe > below that are executable with one button-push as "The Lawson Maneuver." > Can I only program one set of chained events this way into the > Looperlative, > or could I program in The Lawson Maneuver" and add others, like a > "Kirkdorffer Maneuver," a "Trick Number 3" and "Trick number 4" etc. > If I > can add other multi-chained events, is there a limit?<<< > > you can program as many as you like. Every single button on your > pedal board could control up to 8 functions in sequence. :o) > > cheers > > Steve > www.stevelawson.net - site > www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 01:13:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A6943BEFB; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 01:13:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WWWTz9U60xi/UjvueN+b/ymU/JMoPEiwElQ8rDHNFQKClf5PgLBnqoAjDWpRenyv; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-2200645711325590@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: BAY AREA new music scene: was Noise Pancakes in the news! Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:13:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da940d07206a7ddc9eabbd25191f33e3428a1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.21.83 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 01:13:27 +0000 (UTC) Good letter! Four people, huh? I've had plenty of shows like that for my rock gigs here in Boston, and maybe 3 times as many peole for my avant shows. Maybe if I stick to avant I'll be famous! (LOL) Your Pal, Tim Mungenast > [Original Message] > From: loop.pool > To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) > Date: 4/6/2006 4:01:58 AM > Subject: BAY AREA new music scene: was Noise Pancakes in the news! > > Tim Munengast wrote this about the San Francisco noise scene: > > "Once again I find myself on the wrong coast. Seems like the West has all > the cool cars, the trainspotting action, and the most vibrant avant scene." > > > I agree with you about the coolness of the scene but people should know that > the scene, like almost every fringe musical scene in the world, is peopled > by people who are fanatical about promoting it and creating opportunities > where none appear to be. > > I just saw an amazing concert with new music luminaries Herny Kaiser, > Scott Looney, > our own loopers delight member, Italian guitarist Roberto Zorzi and four > other really talented musicians. > > There were four people in the audience. > > Roberto wrote me back and said he'd love to come play in Northern California > and said he'd just need > a minimum of three gigs to be able to afford to come (mentioning a sum that > would be a rather embarassingly > low paid casuals/wedding gig). > > I had to tell him that it wasn't possible......that even I , who have a > decent draw in SF for new musical events considered myself > lucky if my expenses are paid when I do a gig (they a frequently aren't) > > ******** > > Lately there has been a amazing collection of new music people in the East > Bay because many of the bay areas best and brightest > young musicians lost there lucrative software day jobs and could no longer > afford to live in the pricier cities of > San Francisco, San Jose and Santa Cruz. I'm on tribe.net which is full of > electronica musicians and it seems like > 1/3 of the people on that website are from Oakland. > > Is there a scene there? No? The reason? Well, at least one of > the reasons is that there are very , very few places to play and even if > people would play the people would not come out to see them. The other > reason I think is that like a lot of people on this list, a lot of people > who do new or unusual musics are not particularly social people to begin > with but that's the subject for another discussion. > > My own wife once said, "How ironic is it that we live in the wealthiest > empire in the history of the entire planet and that we > live in one of the wealthiest per capita urban areas in that vastly wealthy > country and that, instead of the arts flourishing > with support and patronage, that they are, instead, barely breathing. > > The singer/songwriter Sam Phillips (the woman, not the man) said, "No > matter who is the president of the record company or the A&R person or the > lawyers or whatever, the artists never go away. We are always here and we > always will be. > > I say, yeah verily to the Scott Looney's of the world who open up their own > homes to money losing new music concerts..........to > the Roberto Zorzi's, Bernhard Wagners and Andy Butler's who will risk their > own money in an effort to spread their artistry outside of the confines of > their own countries and cities; to the Sunao Inami's who will risk the > very small amount of money they have to put out recordings of artists who > don't recoup their costs just so this beautiful music gets heard; the Matt > Davingons' who produces a monthly new music series that rarely pays for > itself; > to the Murias/Pheaki Boi'a who put his whole financial situation on the line > to produce the 1st ever 2 day Dark Elektronika festival in San Francisco and > lost his shirt even when the even was a stunning success. > > If things are happening artistically in the SF Bay Area and environs it is > because there are about 30 people who are fanatically > committed to 'la causa', come hell or high water.................paying > gigs or not. > > Buy a dinner for one of these people the next time you see > them at a gig you dig! It'll lighten their load and keep 'em going, I > assure you. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 01:22:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 108353BEAF; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 01:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <2bfc15d5383230773a19f5f008e81029@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-709490860 From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Boulder CO Looping Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:22:11 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 01:22:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-709490860 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mon. April 10th. 7pm-closing at the "RedFish Brewpub" (2027 13th. St., Boulder CO) - "LightsEdgeProject" (Paul Mimlitsch-guitar/looping with Chris Mandel-electric/processed cornet) will do an improvised soundtrack in conjunction with the work of 2 video artists. We will kick off the evening with an hour long set with other musicians/artists to follow. This is a "Boulder International Fringe Festival" sponsored event (main festival to take place Aug 17th-28th). Also taking place will be announcements of acceptance of applications to the August Festival. See << http://www.boulderfringe.com/ >> for info on the August event. --Apple-Mail-2-709490860 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Arial Mon. April 10th. 7pm-closing at the "RedFish Brewpub" (2027 13th. St., Boulder CO) - "LightsEdgeProject" (Paul Mimlitsch-guitar/looping with Chris Mandel-electric/processed cornet) will do an improvised soundtrack in conjunction with the work of 2 video artists. We will kick off the evening with an hour long set with other musicians/artists to follow. This is a "Boulder International Fringe Festival" sponsored event (main festival to take place Aug 17th-28th). Also taking place will be announcements of acceptance of applications to the August Festival. See <<<< http://www.boulderfringe.com/ >> for info on the August event. --Apple-Mail-2-709490860-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 02:02:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFCD53BEE0; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:02:31 -0300 From: Andrew Duke Subject: Kris Re: sound fx for loopin' To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4435C837.6000907@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAgAAA+kAAAPr References: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > I downloaded this file, but it won't open. An error message says that > it is not a valid archive file. > > Kris Hi, Kris. I just got home and tested it and it downloaded OK for me. Perhaps the server was backed up when you tried, so please try again. It is a zip file at 65 mb that when extracted will be a 71.9 mb folder with the same name containing 56 wav files. Andrew > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Duke" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:54 AM > Subject: sound fx for loopin' > > >> Hey, Loopers (check out that Choir Boys CD on pfMENTUM, BTW): >> If any of ya'll need some crazy sound fx, this zip is available for >> a limited time (royalty-free, just let me know what you use it for/in if >> you use anything): >> http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeFXlimited.zip >> >> -- >> Andrew Duke >> scoring/sound design/source >> http://andrew-duke.com >> http://myspace.com/andrewduke >> Cognition Audioworks label >> [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] >> http://cognitionaudioworks.com >> >> > > > > -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 02:06:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ABE33BEFE; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:06:29 -0300 From: Andrew Duke Subject: Dave Re: sound fx for loopin' To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4435C925.6040306@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <567820D1-3A62-477F-95DB-E658831DD323@gmail.com> <1e5101c659c1$995da850$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <029101c659cd$faceea70$6401a8c0@Davidportable> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 Resent-Message-ID: <-Y7qB.A.9oG.qkcNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:06:35 +0000 (UTC) David O'Heare wrote: > Funny, I got it... > > Of course, the file names are hopeless. Oh well, I'll listen and > rename. Whaddya expect fer nuthin'? > > Dave O'H Hi, Dave. I left the files unnamed cos I figured as they were they would be best left open to the listeners' interpretation. So renaming them to what you feel best is definitely a great idea. Hope you enjoy and find some useful. Take care. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 02:14:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE8613BF0C; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000901c659e9$0ce64f30$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: MIDI LOOP SYNCING: 3 questions Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:14:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Hey guys and gals, I feel a little sheepish asking this question but I don't know the answer to it. but from your considerable experience: 1) what is the best live looping machine to DRIVE a midi sequencer or drum machine via mid? the LEXICON JAMMAN the EDP the REPEATER the LOOPERLATIVE Conversely, 2) what is the best live looping device to DRIVEN by a sequencer/drum machine the LEXICON JAMMAN the EDP the REPEATER the LOOPERLATIVE 3) Do you have a preference for which one does both things the best? Are there any tricks you use or things to watch out for? Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of experience with this and particularly not in the last several years, because I trust my sense of timing and resyncing loops on the fly when I improvise with people, but I have a couple of gigs coming up with sharp up and coming synthesists and want to get my tech together ahead of time when they do more straight forward dance oriented electronica where a drifting rhythmic sensibility is inappropriate due to stylistic constraints. thanks for your wisdom in advance, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 02:30:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D24323BF06; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1ec401c659eb$41edd4d0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4435C837.6000907@andrew-duke.com> Subject: Re: Kris Re: sound fx for loopin' Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:30:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 525, in=275080, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Worked this time. Thanks! I'm feeling generous this evening...give me an hour or so, and I'm going to provide access to over 400 of my VST effects, most of which are free, a few demos, and some in demo mode only (like my Lexicon PSP42 and PSP84, Antares Filter, etc). Hold tite kiddies.... Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Duke" To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Kris Re: sound fx for loopin' > Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> I downloaded this file, but it won't open. An error message says that it >> is not a valid archive file. >> >> Kris > > Hi, Kris. > I just got home and tested it and it downloaded OK for me. > Perhaps the server was backed up when you tried, so please > try again. It is a zip file at 65 mb that when extracted will > be a 71.9 mb folder with the same name containing 56 wav files. > Andrew > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Duke" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:54 AM >> Subject: sound fx for loopin' >> >> >>> Hey, Loopers (check out that Choir Boys CD on pfMENTUM, BTW): >>> If any of ya'll need some crazy sound fx, this zip is available for >>> a limited time (royalty-free, just let me know what you use it for/in if >>> you use anything): >>> http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeFXlimited.zip >>> >>> -- >>> Andrew Duke >>> scoring/sound design/source >>> http://andrew-duke.com >>> http://myspace.com/andrewduke >>> Cognition Audioworks label >>> [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] >>> http://cognitionaudioworks.com >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > http://myspace.com/andrewduke > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 02:49:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F14A3BF15; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1ed501c659ed$d4d33310$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Selilng My Lexicon LXP5 and UniQuest Software (for programming it) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:48:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 522, in=262840, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Against all my instincts, I'm selling my Lexicon LXP5 and the UniQuest software package (in the box), by SoundQuest, which is excellent for programming the unit via MIDI and our computer. The software itself runs for $99 - http://www.squest.com/ That includes a new power supply from Lexicon as well. I'm selling both for $200 + shipping via PayPal. Kris ************************************************* Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm Looper's Delight Playlist - http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:03:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 399F63BF0E; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:03:03 -0700 Subject: Re: state of the loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Scott Drengsen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <443590FB.5020804@pdq.net> Message-Id: <6925A84A-C5EB-11DA-8C52-00050263BC96@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Have a Cigar.... On Thursday, April 6, 2006, at 03:06 PM, Doug Cox wrote: > Floyd quote? > > You've got your scary monsters mixed up. :) > > daniel stevenson wrote: >> for the social and anti-social of us who loop sound... >> "its a hell of a start.it could be made into a monster >> if we all pull together as a team." >> surf the gravy. >> scary visionary. >> >> >> more floyd quotes to come... >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:03:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D8253BF06; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:04:15 -0700 Subject: Re: state of the loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Scott Drengsen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <443590FB.5020804@pdq.net> Message-Id: <9440CE48-C5EB-11DA-8C52-00050263BC96@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Have a Cigar.. On Thursday, April 6, 2006, at 03:06 PM, Doug Cox wrote: > Floyd quote? > > You've got your scary monsters mixed up. :) > > daniel stevenson wrote: >> for the social and anti-social of us who loop sound... >> "its a hell of a start.it could be made into a monster >> if we all pull together as a team." >> surf the gravy. >> scary visionary. >> >> >> more floyd quotes to come... >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:08:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24FC53BF0E; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Gv20jenHQwh+vjvSfaRIKjqCXKB1cQoVwnN/NI2E1feudAfCbHFiyO8FSxmjfjYgMPiXndxP+bLdENqxOWcBHSDbWH45LZbBxGY2Po9Aziij8rJZnN6+bvHvGnMvtQvwcK8IjUijjhaMihYUyQEcn6XBopdBNVp+NR6omA13oJ0= ; Message-ID: <20060407040833.69179.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:08:33 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: MIDI LOOP SYNCING: 3 questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000901c659e9$0ce64f30$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:08:35 +0000 (UTC) --- "loop.pool" wrote: > > 1) what is the best live looping machine to > DRIVE a midi sequencer or drum machine via mid? > > the LEXICON JAMMAN > the EDP > the REPEATER > the LOOPERLATIVE When I owned an EDP it seemed to put out a nice stable midi clock. The Repeater *does not.* However, some machines seem to be totally tollerant of it, others... not so much. Oddly, the thing that seemed to hate it's clock the most was the MO-FX from Electrix. I remember the AdrenaLinn seemed OK with it. Looperlative's clock out? I'm too knee deep in it to check at this point. To be honest, almost 100% of my looping involves syncing the looper to a MIDI clock. My experience with the EDP and Repeater was when I was beta testing software v 1.1 of the Repeater, so take this with a grain of salt. > Conversely, > 2) what is the best live looping device to DRIVEN > by a sequencer/drum > machine > > the LEXICON JAMMAN > the EDP > the REPEATER > the LOOPERLATIVE In this case I'd have to say hands down the Repeater. You can grab your tempo slider and bring it down to 20 bpm from 200 and the Repeater will merrily tag along. I'm pretty sure all the others choke. The JamMan seemed to be fine 80% of the time, but if for some reason there was some jitter you'd hear a click at the loop point during quiet passages. I'm still testing out my Looperlative, but it seemed to perform perfectly last night once I got the hang of it. The EDP did fine in this too as long as your clock remained solid. I'm sure someone here knows the specs on how much deviation it will stand. How cool is it's time stretching? It's not getting the old ebay heave-ho even though there's a nice Looperlative sitting next to it. > 3) Do you have a preference for which one does both > things the best? I've been a long time supporter of the Repeater, as most of you know, but it's surely not the be all end all. Mostly I chose it because it was half the price of an EDP and stereo. Do you care about stereo? > Are there any tricks you use or things to watch out > for? I love to start up the drum machine but bring it's volume down. Choose a synth sound that's got a MIDI synced filter or arp built in. Buld up a nice wash and then sneek in the drum machine little by little. > with people, but I have a couple of gigs coming up > with sharp up and coming > synthesists and want to get my tech together ahead > of time when they do more > straight forward dance oriented electronica where a > drifting > rhythmic sensibility is inappropriate due to > stylistic constraints Ooo, that sounds FUN! Keep us informed of your gigs! If you want to come over and check out my setup before Thomas Dolby, you're more than welcome to. Looper playdate! Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:09:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 193EB3BEEA; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:08:51 -0300 From: Andrew Duke Subject: Re: Kris Re: sound fx for loopin' To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4435E5D3.4060403@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <443539BB.5020101@andrew-duke.com> <1dd501c659ad$666d4810$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4435C837.6000907@andrew-duke.com> <1ec401c659eb$41edd4d0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > Worked this time. Thanks! > > I'm feeling generous this evening...give me an hour or so, and I'm > going to provide access to over 400 of my VST effects, most of which > are free, a few demos, and some in demo mode only (like my Lexicon > PSP42 and PSP84, Antares Filter, etc). > > Hold tite kiddies.... > > Kris Lookin' forward to this, Kris. Thanks. Andrew > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Duke" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:02 PM > Subject: Kris Re: sound fx for loopin' > > >> Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> I downloaded this file, but it won't open. An error message says >>> that it is not a valid archive file. >>> >>> Kris >> >> >> Hi, Kris. >> I just got home and tested it and it downloaded OK for me. >> Perhaps the server was backed up when you tried, so please >> try again. It is a zip file at 65 mb that when extracted will >> be a 71.9 mb folder with the same name containing 56 wav files. >> Andrew >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Duke" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:54 AM >>> Subject: sound fx for loopin' >>> >>> >>>> Hey, Loopers (check out that Choir Boys CD on pfMENTUM, BTW): >>>> If any of ya'll need some crazy sound fx, this zip is available for >>>> a limited time (royalty-free, just let me know what you use it >>>> for/in if >>>> you use anything): >>>> http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeFXlimited.zip >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andrew Duke >>>> scoring/sound design/source >>>> http://andrew-duke.com >>>> http://myspace.com/andrewduke >>>> Cognition Audioworks label >>>> [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] >>>> http://cognitionaudioworks.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Duke >> scoring/sound design/source >> http://andrew-duke.com >> http://myspace.com/andrewduke >> Cognition Audioworks label >> [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] >> http://cognitionaudioworks.com >> >> >> > > > > -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:21:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CF153BF23; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1ee901c659fa$cbd6b5e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: My VST Effects Share (over 400) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:21:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 524, in=265624, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Okay folks, if you have the bandwith, knock yourself out. It's 180MB and a zip file of over 400 VST effects (mostly free, some demo, some trial only): http://www.box.net/public/ft3zcbjler Have fun. Kris ************************************************* Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm Looper's Delight Playlist - http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:29:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E9E23BF2A; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01aa01c659fb$e657b990$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: RE: BAY AREA new music scene: Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:29:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <-05UoD.A.FqD.6qeNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Dear Mark, you wrote: "I've given up trying to find a co-looper or do live gigs. I've put up and answered ads to no avail. I had one response from a Looper on LD but they never returned my emails. " I've heard you say this before and it mystifies me because it seems like the Bay Area is crawling with loopers and I know you are a really interesting musician; someone who would be fun to improvise or collaborate with. Also, I know that something like a quarter of all the Looperlative sales were to people in the bay area in this last run and a large number of people in the CT-Collective are in the Bay Area as well. Anyway, I have a hard time down here in Santa Cruz fending OFF people to jam with. Maybe you should move down here (said a little tongue in cheek because I realize how difficult a proposition that would be, economically). I do know, though , that much much more is happening in terms of new electronic in Oakland than is happening in San Francisco these days but the trouble is actually reaching all these talented young musicians who have sequestered themselves in cheap warehouses in the bad section so town. I just saw this new music concert in the most amazing small concert space (Scott Looney's home) and parking my rental car on the street scared the hell out of me the neighborhood seemed so rough................junkies and whores everywhere, though I must say, the kids on the street seemed genuinely friendly. But I suppose a trip to Oakland is quite an undertaking. I don't drive to San Jose to play music with people and it's about the same distance. Good luck, you should be playing with cool people. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:30:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7BC63BF37; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: state of the loop Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 00:29:49 -0400 Message-ID: <009801c659fb$ed0551d0$0200a8c0@pcdaw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <443590FB.5020804@pdq.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcZZ9UtjyQdGaGa7RF+NadDPUcrccwABb7rw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:30:00 +0000 (UTC) >Subject: Re: state of the loop >Floyd quote? >You've got your scary monsters mixed up. :) He does? Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. :) >daniel stevenson wrote: > for the social and anti-social of us who loop sound... > "its a hell of a start.it could be made into a monster > if we all pull together as a team." > surf the gravy. > scary visionary. > > > more floyd quotes to come... And for some looping content... here's something I've been working on over the last few days.... http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Toll.mp3 I love my Bitrman. ;) Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:31:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 202353BF39; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=evY1yCYOj08SOEOLJR8PecGM/n02yjOt1nFrvzVyQRD6Ey78YoJLEles0Ac2aERkOgR/YPcnI280VMp8ASTQuvcuRb8SmkNAf1gkXeaXMpm/KvmGr0bijIFwE4ysy2BgL+HKUQNS2njAsEOJt5DEatIe8IlW4rjeQTPeJ6i57vg= ; Message-ID: <20060407043157.84127.qmail@web37912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:31:57 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: MIDI LOOP SYNCING: 3 questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000901c659e9$0ce64f30$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <7wpseB.A.s4D.-seNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:31:59 +0000 (UTC) the answer to the ultimate question is 42& entropy can be reversed via the digital interface... --- "loop.pool" wrote: > Hey guys and gals, > > I feel a little sheepish asking this question but I > don't know the answer to > it. > but from your considerable experience: > > 1) what is the best live looping machine to > DRIVE a midi sequencer or drum machine via mid? > > the LEXICON JAMMAN > the EDP > the REPEATER > the LOOPERLATIVE > > > Conversely, > 2) what is the best live looping device to DRIVEN > by a sequencer/drum > machine > > the LEXICON JAMMAN > the EDP > the REPEATER > the LOOPERLATIVE > > 3) Do you have a preference for which one does both > things the best? > > > Are there any tricks you use or things to watch out > for? > > Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of experience with > this and particularly > not in the last several years, because > I trust my sense of timing and resyncing loops on > the fly when I improvise > with people, but I have a couple of gigs coming up > with sharp up and coming > synthesists and want to get my tech together ahead > of time when they do more > straight forward dance oriented electronica where a > drifting > rhythmic sensibility is inappropriate due to > stylistic constraints. > > thanks for your wisdom in advance, Rick Walker > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:39:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7747F3BF3D; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:39:19 -0300 From: Andrew Duke Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4435ECF7.8070206@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <1ee901c659fa$cbd6b5e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > Okay folks, if you have the bandwith, knock yourself out. It's 180MB > and a zip file of over 400 VST effects (mostly free, some demo, some > trial only): > > http://www.box.net/public/ft3zcbjler > > Have fun. > > Kris > > ************************************************* > Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm > Looper's Delight Playlist - > http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u > > > Thanks much, Kris. Downloading now. Take care. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 04:52:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AABD3BF1B; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ntfkOi+K/LPEY7RJQTMIdI2AhFfXq3p3PbIMcQqbm8SD/2mVqeMQwNk/zx8mQ3BSbViLYhaLdvTEHbM4IBy37Ygdh+ZkJGPSwQvc+shr6TnNNxEsNYu9eZ0Ltc+WMHh33DUf51zp19M0yv9rNa6q9JwKubrTMLV/PGDikVZKwFM= ; Message-ID: <20060407045224.63059.qmail@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: dont let that thing out of the jar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <009801c659fb$ed0551d0$0200a8c0@pcdaw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <0c8YAB.A.pqE.KAfNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:52:26 +0000 (UTC) nice sounds tony.reminds me of the time i was aboard their mothership and sneeking around the recumbant incubation lab...was waiting for "the mob rules"to kick in. good stuff, very scary. --- Tony K wrote: > > >Subject: Re: state of the loop > >Floyd quote? > >You've got your scary monsters mixed up. :) > > He does? Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. :) > > >daniel stevenson wrote: > > for the social and anti-social of us who loop > sound... > > "its a hell of a start.it could be made into a > monster > > if we all pull together as a team." > > surf the gravy. > > scary visionary. > > > > > > more floyd quotes to come... > > And for some looping content... here's something > I've been working on over > the last few days.... > > http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Toll.mp3 > > I love my Bitrman. ;) > > Tony > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 09:04:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0930D3BEEC; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <69a45e15e91de0d441ec50b6aeea58a9@suitandtieguy.com> References: <44354857.2000000@hushmail.com> <3262.128.193.37.212.1144344583.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <69a45e15e91de0d441ec50b6aeea58a9@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6cf60428bced574498e4459dee94dc47@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suit & Tie Guy Subject: Re: Instructables: diy cheap looper for "under $20" Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:04:40 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:04:42 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 6, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Suit & Tie Guy wrote: > On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:29 PM, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: >> Hmmm. If you could make one button both end recording and start >> looping this >> would be a cool thing to add to your guitar circuitry. > use a DT momentary footswitch and wire the other throw to where this > guy was telling you to put the toggle. i didn't get _that_ far but i found out that attenuating the 9v battery lowered the pitch. but before it got an octave down it became too noisy to be useful and my potentiometer started smoking. maybe i could try a variable power supply instead of a fire hazard. the looping works just like it says on the tin. hitting record will interrupt the loop, which seems useful. --- Suit & Tie Guy www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 09:27:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45C453BEDB; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <6cf60428bced574498e4459dee94dc47@suitandtieguy.com> References: <44354857.2000000@hushmail.com> <3262.128.193.37.212.1144344583.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <69a45e15e91de0d441ec50b6aeea58a9@suitandtieguy.com> <6cf60428bced574498e4459dee94dc47@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9f822c61a8c6e22c3e213e9718b80245@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suit & Tie Guy Subject: Re: Instructables: diy cheap looper for "under $20" Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 04:27:13 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:27:16 +0000 (UTC) i forgot to mention: side effect of leaving the loop switch on while you record is that it goes immediately into play. so i guess i _did_ get that far. i could see this thing be really cool if you had like 10 of them hooked up to a dictaphone or shortwave radio for some ambient tape layering stuff. and for ten bucks apiece you'd have way more money in the interface and power supply. but it's the same way for any diy electronics. --- Suit & Tie Guy www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 11:34:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A43A3BEDA; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AR4FAEvmNUQ8iCMs Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060407083640.02c3b9a0@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:52:50 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: MIDI LOOP SYNCING: 3 questions In-Reply-To: <20060407023040.4EB383BF12@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060407023040.4EB383BF12@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:34:46 +0000 (UTC) At 03:30 07/04/06, you wrote: >1) what is the best live looping machine to >DRIVE a midi sequencer or drum machine via mid? > >the LEXICON JAMMAN starts sending clock at end of record >the EDP can just send clock at end of record, ....but allows you to SET the BPM and send clock before you record (then the recording will quantise to a whole number of Cycles) >Conversely, >2) what is the best live looping device to DRIVEN by a sequencer/drum machine > >the LEXICON JAMMAN will always hard sync to the incoming bar, chopping the loop up if necessary >the EDP won't follow a MIDI clock if it changes tempo. ..but otherwise it identifies the necessary loop length before recording (unless you tell it no) don't have experience of the others, repeater will chase the tempo of an incoming clock and do time stretching, If you use EDP as master, using that trick you do with re-triggering the loop (NextLoop button) will tend to put your loop out of time with the rest. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 13:45:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD623BEDA; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iMh8e6v+tdEnlVb+1kuNm+Ak1P8nqmXveuiBlhn02ug8ubhf+3I2ebhzE+P1Fayeox2ycQf/a3s6PErDWtIFFxiF1NZsO7UkfqKtQDcytz69fLFk9eqEa4goD6G3RS7FBih3NejmRHcqL36DczSZrkbD16stkLys2BN52piTETw= Message-ID: <588ce11d0604070645o1d97bcacyeb88bd2945aa96e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 06:45:18 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) In-Reply-To: <1ee901c659fa$cbd6b5e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1ee901c659fa$cbd6b5e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <_x_L8D.A.TyE.wzmNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Cool! I'm downloading it now as well. Don't know if anyone has seen this, but some of my favorite free VSTs are at http://www.xoxos.net/ They don't show always show up in the usual places like kvraudio.com. discipline2 is my favorite--kind of a randomized glitchy looper. On 4/6/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Okay folks, if you have the bandwith, knock yourself out. It's 180MB and = a > zip file of over 400 VST effects (mostly free, some demo, some trial only= ): > > http://www.box.net/public/ft3zcbjler > > Have fun. > > Kris > > ************************************************* > Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm > Looper's Delight Playlist - > http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u > > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://artsimon.iuma.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 14:30:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB0AE3BED6; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1f4701c65a4f$d8aa1820$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <1ee901c659fa$cbd6b5e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <588ce11d0604070645o1d97bcacyeb88bd2945aa96e8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:30:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 525, in=265814, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Excellent. More VSTs!! Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- Cool! I'm downloading it now as well. Don't know if anyone has seen this, but some of my favorite free VSTs are at http://www.xoxos.net/ They don't show always show up in the usual places like kvraudio.com. discipline2 is my favorite--kind of a randomized glitchy looper. On 4/6/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Okay folks, if you have the bandwith, knock yourself out. It's 180MB and a > zip file of over 400 VST effects (mostly free, some demo, some trial > only): > > http://www.box.net/public/ft3zcbjler > > Have fun. > > Kris > > ************************************************* > Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm > Looper's Delight Playlist - > http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u > > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://artsimon.iuma.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 14:34:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DD543BECF; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:34:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: Subject: Re: about ninjam Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:34:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1F4A_01C65A1E.25BE6030" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.500000 Some tags-to-text=0.5,Aspam=3.0 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -law -explore -foreign -collection -globe -discussion -invest -late -procedure X-Aspam: URLS scored 3.0 msn.com X-Aspam: Best match was sample d:\bad\1760028673.tmp X-Aspam: Total 3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=263085, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <7mzDFB.A.3MG.TinNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:34:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1F4A_01C65A1E.25BE6030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You install the software and then you go to = http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug in the = data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the people = to flock to you like moths to a flame. 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MSN Hotmail sur i-mode=99 : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis votre = t=E9l=E9phone portable=20 ! ------=_NextPart_000_1F4A_01C65A1E.25BE6030-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 14:54:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7425D3BEEC; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XB3lD/P+T3kv2GVq/vDYo+UFFAbF3pJ1M+Bwgtz68E3+UPnenPdw5l7bclGRpBO1pofplX+sAcfdGajRiCtZvctBt/4/A86ROcaX/TcyjX7pjkvc2CMCbCYlc7xxHlUi1vx4SI9ff53U5oH9Hg7pID+gA7u2LxTXLPTnaoL+9+Q= Message-ID: <913728d60604070754o6ea89a92t8fdf6c809a17d4a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:54:48 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam In-Reply-To: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) I've heard of that on other forums...it sounds like a cool idea, anyone ever try it? anybody want to? Charlie On 4/7/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > You install the software and then you go to > http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and > plug in the data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for t= he > people to flock to you like moths to a flame. > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: romain sido > To: info@krispenhartung.com > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > Subject: about ninjam > > > > > hi > > im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but i have= no > idea of how to use this software. Can you please help me, tell me how nin= jam > works. > > thanks, > > bye > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > MSN Hotmail sur i-mode=99 : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis votre > t=E9l=E9phone portable ! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 14:57:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28B393BEE9; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44367DE1.3080405@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:57:37 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <913728d60604070754o6ea89a92t8fdf6c809a17d4a0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <913728d60604070754o6ea89a92t8fdf6c809a17d4a0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Yes... and Yes! I had a great time when I tried it - hooking up to a guy with a studio full of synths. I would in fact be very interested in using Ninjam to field-test my looping rig a bit. I'm out of town right now, but I will definitely be looking into trying this next week. Charlie Milkey wrote: > I've heard of that on other forums...it sounds like a cool idea, > anyone ever try it? > > anybody want to? > > Charlie > > On 4/7/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> You install the software and then you go to >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and >> plug in the data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the >> people to flock to you like moths to a flame. >> >> Kris >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: romain sido >> To: info@krispenhartung.com >> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >> Subject: about ninjam >> >> >> >> >> hi >> >> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but i have no >> idea of how to use this software. Can you please help me, tell me how ninjam >> works. >> >> thanks, >> >> bye >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> MSN Hotmail sur i-mode™ : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis votre >> téléphone portable ! > > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 15:49:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3C573BED2; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:49:20 -0500 From: Doug Cox User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_BeB3.A.vGB.DooNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in hearing if you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like Ninjam forces a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to a MIDI clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall out of synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient pieces and ignoring the Ninjam clock? I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via MIDI clock :( Anyone? Krispen Hartung wrote: > You install the software and then you go to > http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug in > the data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the > people to flock to you like moths to a flame. > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* romain sido > *To:* info@krispenhartung.com > *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > *Subject:* about ninjam > > hi > > im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but > i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help > me, tell me how ninjam works. > > thanks, > > bye > > > ** > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > MSN Hotmail sur i-mode™ : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis > votre téléphone portable ! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 16:02:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B2033BECA; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44368D0D.4080004@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:02:21 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> In-Reply-To: <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:02:27 +0000 (UTC) You *can* choose to ignore the midi clock, but then you lose the whole point of ninjam, namely that you can actually play in sync with others online. For what it's worth we managed to keep two ableton Live computer in sync over Ninjam for about an hour... a bit of nudging here, a bit of fiddling there... Doug Cox wrote: > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in hearing > if you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. > > Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like Ninjam > forces a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to > a MIDI clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall > out of synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient > pieces and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via MIDI > clock :( > > Anyone? > > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> You install the software and then you go to >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug in >> the data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the >> people to flock to you like moths to a flame. >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* romain sido >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >> *Subject:* about ninjam >> >> hi >> >> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but >> i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help >> me, tell me how ninjam works. >> >> thanks, >> >> bye >> >> >> ** >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> MSN Hotmail sur i-mode™ : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis >> votre téléphone portable ! > > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 16:13:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C3C23BEE0; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1f7901c65a5e$28d940b0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <913728d60604070754o6ea89a92t8fdf6c809a17d4a0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: about ninjam Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:13:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=263289, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:13:12 +0000 (UTC) I've tried it with Rainer. It's very easy to use and only requires one server, which is the convenient part. But the bandwith sucks...I like to stream my performances at CD qualiaty. Rainer and I are working on getting setup with the Ninja system at a higher bandwidth, and a closed performance - because as everyone probably knows, anyone and their dog can join in on the fun...pretty soon you have a thrash metal guitarist wanking over subtle ambient/experimental looping, with a blues drummer shuffling in the background, and some guy playing Malmsteen bass solos over the top....in short, a big nasty cluster fuck and waste of my time. :) No disrespet to anyone, but I like to pick my musical partners. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: about ninjam I've heard of that on other forums...it sounds like a cool idea, anyone ever try it? anybody want to? Charlie On 4/7/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > You install the software and then you go to > http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and > plug in the data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for > the > people to flock to you like moths to a flame. > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: romain sido > To: info@krispenhartung.com > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > Subject: about ninjam > > > > > hi > > im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but i have > no > idea of how to use this software. Can you please help me, tell me how > ninjam > works. > > thanks, > > bye > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > MSN Hotmail sur i-mode™ : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis votre > téléphone portable ! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 16:16:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0A9D3BEE2; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1f8401c65a5e$a076e550$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> Subject: Re: about ninjam Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:16:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -law -explore -foreign -collection -globe -discussion -invest -late -procedure X-Aspam: URLS scored 3.0 msn.com X-Aspam: Best match was sample d:\bad\1760028673.tmp X-Aspam: Total 3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=263298, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:16:31 +0000 (UTC) I had no luck getting it to run using the Shoutcast server....never figured out why. If anyone finds a server that will run the Ninjam software, PLEASE let me know and I'll switch to it...because it is so nice to not have to use two separate servers and streaming software to have a duo collaboration performance....it's very complicated and required me to use two laptops. I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything non-rhythmic, which is how I perform half the time anyway. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in hearing if > you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. > > Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like Ninjam forces > a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to a MIDI > clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall out of > synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient pieces > and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via MIDI clock > :( > > Anyone? > > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> You install the software and then you go to >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug in the >> data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the people to >> flock to you like moths to a flame. >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* romain sido >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >> *Subject:* about ninjam >> >> hi >> >> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but >> i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help >> me, tell me how ninjam works. >> >> thanks, >> >> bye >> >> >> ** >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> MSN Hotmail sur i-mode™ : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis >> votre téléphone portable ! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 16:22:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8668C3BEDC; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1f8b01c65a5f$8037eea0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> <44368D0D.4080004@post.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: about ninjam Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:22:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -law -explore -foreign -collection -globe -discussion -invest -late -procedure X-Aspam: URLS scored 3.0 msn.com X-Aspam: Best match was sample d:\bad\1760028673.tmp X-Aspam: Total 3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=263311, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <2Yp8J.A.wUC.XHpNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:22:47 +0000 (UTC) For me, the most beneficial feature of Nijmam is that many people can steam through the same server. That's a beautful thing. Sure, you can sync, but it's not in real time. You still have the time delay (it's just packaged up in a synced way), so the performance is not two or more people playing together in real-time in the strict sense of the term, like what is the case when playing in person. So, if you are fine with playing over someone's part that has been played 15-30 seconds beforehand (or whatever it happens to be), that's cool. I guess if you are syncing local software, that is a different matter, but I personally dislike that sort of collaboration...I don't like a machine correcting or defning my meter for me. It's annoying and unnatural for me. I like to keep things freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Wetterberg" To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: Re: about ninjam > You *can* choose to ignore the midi clock, but then you lose the whole > point of ninjam, namely that you can actually play in sync with others > online. > > For what it's worth we managed to keep two ableton Live computer in sync > over Ninjam for about an hour... a bit of nudging here, a bit of fiddling > there... > > > Doug Cox wrote: >> Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in hearing if >> you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. >> >> Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like Ninjam >> forces a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to >> a MIDI clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall >> out of synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient >> pieces and ignoring the Ninjam clock? >> >> I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via MIDI clock >> :( >> >> Anyone? >> >> Krispen Hartung wrote: >>> You install the software and then you go to >>> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug in the >>> data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the people >>> to flock to you like moths to a flame. >>> Kris >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* romain sido >>> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >>> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >>> *Subject:* about ninjam >>> >>> hi >>> >>> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but >>> i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help >>> me, tell me how ninjam works. >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> bye >>> >>> >>> ** >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> MSN Hotmail sur i-mode™ : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis >>> votre téléphone portable ! >> >> >> . >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 16:56:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F02743BED2; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Tel1CzYRX9mCciBUg768bNZPZ/F1aaVY1UB7lyEiQsYM24FuoSxXfh+qYiNCVLG8xBpd1Ruk0AcOwgpoke+za7/Ft/G+q3lYkD+AQCNhw1rPx0f/sOLSR4MeJt8vFt2d1QPw/6Vy2R9mnGaS853TU8vDWNwn+BvxX7+Wyz8sjv8= ; Message-ID: <20060407165636.59247.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:56:36 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: MIDI LOOP SYNCING: 3 questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060407083640.02c3b9a0@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_R-8i.A.xSD.FnpNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:56:37 +0000 (UTC) --- a k butler wrote: > repeater will chase the tempo of an incoming clock > and do time stretching, Oh, one of the cool Repeater tricks is that along with being synced to your clock, it listens to play/stop/rr functions too. Great for stuttering effects. The looperlative (as far as I can tell, so stop me if I'm wrong) just loops away when the sequence stops. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 17:07:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64F5F3BEE4; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005101c65a65$c0f3fcd0$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1f4701c65a4f$d8aa1820$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:06:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: <2r5WHB.A.8pD.TxpNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:07:32 +0000 (UTC) I love having tons of VSTs, but how the heck do you organize them all? I've been trying to go through and pick the ones I like, but there are so many cool ones. erg. This one has to be one of my all time favorites though... Delay Lama - http://www.audionerdz.com/ Enjoy, Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) > Excellent. More VSTs!! Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Cool! I'm downloading it now as well. Don't know if anyone has seen > this, but some of my favorite free VSTs are at http://www.xoxos.net/ > They don't show always show up in the usual places like kvraudio.com. > discipline2 is my favorite--kind of a randomized glitchy looper. > > On 4/6/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> Okay folks, if you have the bandwith, knock yourself out. It's 180MB and >> a >> zip file of over 400 VST effects (mostly free, some demo, some trial >> only): >> >> http://www.box.net/public/ft3zcbjler >> >> Have fun. >> >> Kris >> >> ************************************************* >> Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar >> www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung >> info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 >> Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm >> Looper's Delight Playlist - >> http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u >> >> >> > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@null.net > http://art.simon.tripod.com > http://artsimon.iuma.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 17:15:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1BD63BEF3; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1144426553.443690392cada@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:15:53 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Krispen Hartung Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> <1f8401c65a5e$a076e550$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <1f8401c65a5e$a076e550$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 71.134.136.14 Resent-Message-ID: <_A7h5C.A.VGE.w4pNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:15:28 +0000 (UTC) I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. it is a server I lease from ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab between 2 location in california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you had a problem running both the shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the same machine? peace -cpr Quoting Krispen Hartung : > I had no luck getting it to run using the Shoutcast server....never figured > out why. If anyone finds a server that will run the Ninjam software, PLEASE > let me know and I'll switch to it...because it is so nice to not have to use > > two separate servers and streaming software to have a duo collaboration > performance....it's very complicated and required me to use two laptops. > > I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything non-rhythmic, which is how I > perform half the time anyway. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in hearing if > > you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. > > > > Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like Ninjam forces > > > a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to a MIDI > > clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall out of > > synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient pieces > > and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > > > > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via MIDI clock > > :( > > > > Anyone? > > > > Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> You install the software and then you go to > >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug in the > >> data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the people to > > >> flock to you like moths to a flame. > >> Kris > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> *From:* romain sido > >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com > >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > >> *Subject:* about ninjam > >> > >> hi > >> > >> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but > >> i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help > >> me, tell me how ninjam works. > >> > >> thanks, > >> > >> bye > >> > >> > >> ** > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> MSN Hotmail sur i-mode™ : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis > >> votre téléphone portable ! > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 17:19:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A40A83BEFE; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1fb601c65a67$67f1f7c0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <1f4701c65a4f$d8aa1820$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <005101c65a65$c0f3fcd0$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:19:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -energy -measure -originally -confirmation -food -brain -samples -miracle -confident X-Aspam: URLS scored 3.0 tripod.com ubgonline.com X-Aspam: Best match was sample d:\bad\130228271.tmp X-Aspam: Total 3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=263402, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <9mTxi.A.sUE.b8pNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:19:23 +0000 (UTC) I created 26 folders for each letter in the alphabet, and I categorize them by that. I could have categorized them by function, like Delay, Reverb, Delay, Modulation, Multi-Effect, Octave, Tone Generation, etc...but that would have required me to go through over 400 effects and try to figure out what they do. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:06 AM Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) >I love having tons of VSTs, but how the heck do you organize them all? >I've been trying to go through and pick the ones I like, but there are so >many cool ones. erg. > > This one has to be one of my all time favorites though... > > Delay Lama - http://www.audionerdz.com/ > > Enjoy, > Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Krispen Hartung" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) > > >> Excellent. More VSTs!! Thanks. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> Cool! I'm downloading it now as well. Don't know if anyone has seen >> this, but some of my favorite free VSTs are at http://www.xoxos.net/ >> They don't show always show up in the usual places like kvraudio.com. >> discipline2 is my favorite--kind of a randomized glitchy looper. >> >> On 4/6/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: >>> Okay folks, if you have the bandwith, knock yourself out. It's 180MB and >>> a >>> zip file of over 400 VST effects (mostly free, some demo, some trial >>> only): >>> >>> http://www.box.net/public/ft3zcbjler >>> >>> Have fun. >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> ************************************************* >>> Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar >>> www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung >>> info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 >>> Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm >>> Looper's Delight Playlist - >>> http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@null.net >> http://art.simon.tripod.com >> http://artsimon.iuma.com >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 17:36:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 564C93BEF9; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1ff201c65a69$c8e255a0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> <1f8401c65a5e$a076e550$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <1144426553.443690392cada@webmail.musetrap.com> Subject: Re: about ninjam Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:36:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -law -explore -foreign -collection -globe -discussion -invest -late -procedure X-Aspam: URLS scored 3.0 msn.com X-Aspam: Best match was sample d:\bad\1760028673.tmp X-Aspam: Total 3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=263428, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:36:23 +0000 (UTC) What package are you using? Can you point to it? >I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. it is a server I lease from > ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab between 2 location in > california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... > > as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you had a problem running > both the > shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the same machine? > > peace > -cpr > > Quoting Krispen Hartung : > >> I had no luck getting it to run using the Shoutcast server....never >> figured >> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run the Ninjam software, >> PLEASE >> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it is so nice to not have to >> use >> >> two separate servers and streaming software to have a duo collaboration >> performance....it's very complicated and required me to use two laptops. >> >> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything non-rhythmic, which is how I >> perform half the time anyway. >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in hearing >> > if >> > you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. >> > >> > Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like Ninjam >> > forces >> >> > a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to a >> > MIDI >> > clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall out of >> > synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient >> > pieces >> > and ignoring the Ninjam clock? >> > >> > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via MIDI >> > clock >> > :( >> > >> > Anyone? >> > >> > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >> You install the software and then you go to >> >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug in >> >> the >> >> data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the people >> >> to >> >> >> flock to you like moths to a flame. >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* romain sido >> >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >> >> *Subject:* about ninjam >> >> >> >> hi >> >> >> >> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but >> >> i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help >> >> me, tell me how ninjam works. >> >> >> >> thanks, >> >> >> >> bye >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis >> >> votre téléphone portable ! >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 18:01:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 330FD3BEFA; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1144431886.4436a50e3b537@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:44:46 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> <1f8401c65a5e$a076e550$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <1144426553.443690392cada@webmail.musetrap.com> <1ff201c65a69$c8e255a0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <1ff201c65a69$c8e255a0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 71.134.136.14 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:01:34 +0000 (UTC) I'll have to look it up, but, the system is $99/mo, 60gig drive, 1000gig/mo bandwidth... running red hat enterprise.. can host up to 100 domains... currently hosting about 12 domains (mine, rick walkers, atomic mobius machine, jon wagner, and others)... peace -cpr Quoting Krispen Hartung : > What package are you using? Can you point to it? > > > >I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. it is a server I lease from > > ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab between 2 location in > > california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... > > > > as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you had a problem running > > both the > > shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the same machine? > > > > peace > > -cpr > > > > Quoting Krispen Hartung : > > > >> I had no luck getting it to run using the Shoutcast server....never > >> figured > >> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run the Ninjam software, > >> PLEASE > >> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it is so nice to not have to > >> use > >> > >> two separate servers and streaming software to have a duo collaboration > >> performance....it's very complicated and required me to use two laptops. > >> > >> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything non-rhythmic, which is how I > >> perform half the time anyway. > >> > >> Kris > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in hearing > >> > if > >> > you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. > >> > > >> > Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like Ninjam > >> > forces > >> > >> > a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to a > >> > MIDI > >> > clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall out of > >> > synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient > >> > pieces > >> > and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > >> > > >> > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via MIDI > >> > clock > >> > :( > >> > > >> > Anyone? > >> > > >> > Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> >> You install the software and then you go to > >> >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug in > >> >> the > >> >> data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the people > > >> >> to > >> > >> >> flock to you like moths to a flame. > >> >> Kris > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> *From:* romain sido > >> >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com > >> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > >> >> *Subject:* about ninjam > >> >> > >> >> hi > >> >> > >> >> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it but > >> >> i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help > >> >> me, tell me how ninjam works. > >> >> > >> >> thanks, > >> >> > >> >> bye > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ** > >> >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis > >> >> votre téléphone portable ! > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 18:02:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 314763BEF5; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4436A94E.3010506@pdq.net> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:02:54 -0500 From: Doug Cox User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> <1f8401c65a5e$a076e550$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <1144426553.443690392cada@webmail.musetrap.com> <1ff201c65a69$c8e255a0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <1ff201c65a69$c8e255a0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <8OzMpD.A.cCG.QlqNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:02:57 +0000 (UTC) FWIW - it looks like there is a version of the Ninjam client that can send out MIDI clock based on the Ninjam BPM. It's on the download page at the bottom - the Wasabi version of the Windows client. I haven't actually tried it yet, but I saw a reference to this fact in the Developer's forum. I downloaded it and ran it, and it does indeed have a MIDI Clock Master check box and start/stop buttons. Having no experience with Ninjam, I can only guess that this means it can send the Ninjam clock out as MIDI clock. Hopefully that's useful for giving me a master MIDI clock that is in time with the Ninjam clock. Makes rhythmic looping possible (possibly?!) :) I'll explore a little more this weekend, including seeing if I can get Ninjam server to run on my server at Bluehost.com. I'll let you know what I discover, Kris. D Krispen Hartung wrote: > What package are you using? Can you point to it? > > >> I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. it is a server I >> lease from >> ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab between 2 location in >> california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... >> >> as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you had a problem >> running both the >> shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the same machine? >> >> peace >> -cpr >> >> Quoting Krispen Hartung : >> >>> I had no luck getting it to run using the Shoutcast server....never >>> figured >>> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run the Ninjam software, >>> PLEASE >>> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it is so nice to not >>> have to use >>> >>> two separate servers and streaming software to have a duo collaboration >>> performance....it's very complicated and required me to use two >>> laptops. >>> >>> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything non-rhythmic, which is >>> how I >>> perform half the time anyway. >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in >>> hearing > if >>> > you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. >>> > >>> > Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like >>> Ninjam > forces >>> >>> > a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to >>> a > MIDI >>> > clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall >>> out of >>> > synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient >>> > pieces >>> > and ignoring the Ninjam clock? >>> > >>> > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via >>> MIDI > clock >>> > :( >>> > >>> > Anyone? >>> > >>> > Krispen Hartung wrote: >>> >> You install the software and then you go to >>> >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug >>> in >> the >>> >> data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the >>> people >> to >>> >>> >> flock to you like moths to a flame. >>> >> Kris >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> *From:* romain sido >>> >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >>> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >>> >> *Subject:* about ninjam >>> >> >>> >> hi >>> >> >>> >> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded >>> it but >>> >> i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help >>> >> me, tell me how ninjam works. >>> >> >>> >> thanks, >>> >> >>> >> bye >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ** >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis >>> >> votre téléphone portable ! >> >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 18:05:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61B0C3BEFA; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <201d01c65a6d$ca4ae980$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> <1f8401c65a5e$a076e550$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <1144426553.443690392cada@webmail.musetrap.com> <1ff201c65a69$c8e255a0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <1144431886.4436a50e3b537@webmail.musetrap.com> Subject: Re: about ninjam Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:05:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -law -explore -foreign -collection -globe -discussion -invest -late -procedure X-Aspam: URLS scored 3.0 msn.com X-Aspam: Best match was sample d:\bad\1760028673.tmp X-Aspam: Total 3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=263471, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <80irF.A.vHG.RnqNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Thanks. I would be looking for an option with now or no storage space and high bandwidth, since I'd plan to use it to stream only. Kris > I'll have to look it up, but, the system is $99/mo, 60gig drive, > 1000gig/mo > bandwidth... running red hat enterprise.. can host up to 100 domains... > currently hosting about 12 domains (mine, rick walkers, atomic mobius > machine, > jon wagner, and others)... > > peace > -cpr > > Quoting Krispen Hartung : > >> What package are you using? Can you point to it? >> >> >> >I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. it is a server I lease >> >from >> > ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab between 2 location in >> > california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... >> > >> > as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you had a problem running >> > both the >> > shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the same machine? >> > >> > peace >> > -cpr >> > >> > Quoting Krispen Hartung : >> > >> >> I had no luck getting it to run using the Shoutcast server....never >> >> figured >> >> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run the Ninjam software, >> >> PLEASE >> >> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it is so nice to not have >> >> to >> >> use >> >> >> >> two separate servers and streaming software to have a duo >> >> collaboration >> >> performance....it's very complicated and required me to use two >> >> laptops. >> >> >> >> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything non-rhythmic, which is >> >> how I >> >> perform half the time anyway. >> >> >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in >> >> > hearing >> >> > if >> >> > you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. >> >> > >> >> > Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like Ninjam >> >> > forces >> >> >> >> > a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to a >> >> > MIDI >> >> > clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall out >> >> > of >> >> > synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient >> >> > pieces >> >> > and ignoring the Ninjam clock? >> >> > >> >> > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via MIDI >> >> > clock >> >> > :( >> >> > >> >> > Anyone? >> >> > >> >> > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >> >> You install the software and then you go to >> >> >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug in >> >> >> the >> >> >> data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the >> >> >> people >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> flock to you like moths to a flame. >> >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> *From:* romain sido >> >> >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >> >> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >> >> >> *Subject:* about ninjam >> >> >> >> >> >> hi >> >> >> >> >> >> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded it >> >> >> but >> >> >> i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help >> >> >> me, tell me how ninjam works. >> >> >> >> >> >> thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> bye >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis >> >> >> votre téléphone portable ! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 20:05:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C8853BEF9; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=x7tvEXuGdv1Rj2SASkeYOct4LedCP9hFOCm7dz1+O8bM+SRypJuLuGAMr2AtApnuZ5yl7GmaUyNInAlL2ZFOKkYotPqmbCEwthn1A9r5qWbd8sDM6quFJtvRCsWf+x3+3HMw6xIol++2Gt3sJ8FTTqpuXt0fm/RO4n34jWwemZU= ; Message-ID: <20060407200518.65028.qmail@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:05:18 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: rc 50 no batteries or feedback To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:05:20 +0000 (UTC) im taking boss customer supports word on this.but that huge box has no room for batteries#$%#*(%%$...seemed confused about the subject of feedback control but said the loops stayed infinite....bummer will someone please invent wireless power supply or night-time solar power...? scary Illuminati __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 20:30:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B644D3BEE0; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7637098.1144441836861.JavaMail.root@web15> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:30:36 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback Cc: daniel stevenson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:30:42 +0000 (UTC) I just ordered mine from AMS and am anxiously awaiting the 5-6-06 ship date. This may be a good intermediary device between the EDP and lower-end loopers. I also ordered another new device: the Roland HPD-10 cheap-o Handsonic. I had the big brother and really liked it. I hope this one isn't a pig-in-the-poke. -- Paul Richards ---- daniel stevenson wrote: > im taking boss customer supports word on this.but that > huge box has no room for batteries#$%#*(%%$...seemed > confused about the subject of feedback control but > said the loops stayed infinite....bummer > will someone please invent wireless power supply or > night-time solar power...? > scary Illuminati > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 20:54:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03E9A3BEE1; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002d01c65a85$6e81fa40$6501a8c0@DELL> Reply-To: "Sean Mormelo" From: "Sean Mormelo" To: References: <7637098.1144441836861.JavaMail.root@web15> Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:54:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:54:13 +0000 (UTC) My RC-50 is supposed to in Today from Sweetwater and be here Mid next week via Fedex....I would call Sweetwater as I think they are one of the first to be getting the RC-50...I had one on order from Musiciansbuy.com and they emailed and said to due to a manufacturer backorder they wouldn't be getting the units until June!!!...I knew they had been put on the backburner by Roland so they could send units to the higher volume dealers so I cancelled my order looked around and Sweetwater accomodated. As far as the unit having no feeback control, I can see that being an issue for ambient loop artists and others but not for the kind of thing I want to do with the unit. And Batteries...It's rare for a piece of gear that complex to be able to run on batteries and i'm not sure it would benefit a wide enough sector of users. I Think the RC-50 has great promise for some of us. Sean Mormelo www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "daniel stevenson" Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback > I just ordered mine from AMS and am anxiously awaiting the 5-6-06 ship date. This may be a good intermediary device between the EDP and lower-end loopers. > > I also ordered another new device: the Roland HPD-10 cheap-o Handsonic. I had the big brother and really liked it. I hope this one isn't a pig-in-the-poke. > > -- > Paul Richards > > ---- daniel stevenson wrote: > > im taking boss customer supports word on this.but that > > huge box has no room for batteries#$%#*(%%$...seemed > > confused about the subject of feedback control but > > said the loops stayed infinite....bummer > > will someone please invent wireless power supply or > > night-time solar power...? > > scary Illuminati > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 21:26:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA2EC3BEE2; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dL67Fc/rgmORtd2qmWJ+/7ZxJW8vPX1Ed0yIuFe/Wg4vdta09u7ZpNSpddc8EfQWCflvXWGbjvQ5DWtPbnbanJuOewb+VcDVmFNQWxp5vcRX3PRimO/PJxz2HR66hiRu1bidNopkWaYMBljsxz8IMypQyH9NgKfB4BG4/vsg9uU= ; Message-ID: <20060407212648.65567.qmail@web37911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:26:48 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7637098.1144441836861.JavaMail.root@web15> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <10oSh.A.LoE.ZktNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:26:50 +0000 (UTC) nice~~i would be anxious my damn self...and just a month before 666.let us know how that thing handles the curves and what it will do flat out. the hdp-10 looks pretty fab also.how much cheese is that unit gonna cost me.it looks like it maybe battery powered? have fun, scary intermediary. --- paulrichard10@adelphia.net wrote: > I just ordered mine from AMS and am anxiously > awaiting the 5-6-06 ship date. This may be a good > intermediary device between the EDP and lower-end > loopers. > > I also ordered another new device: the Roland HPD-10 > cheap-o Handsonic. I had the big brother and really > liked it. I hope this one isn't a pig-in-the-poke. > > -- > Paul Richards > > ---- daniel stevenson > wrote: > > im taking boss customer supports word on this.but > that > > huge box has no room for > batteries#$%#*(%%$...seemed > > confused about the subject of feedback control but > > said the loops stayed infinite....bummer > > will someone please invent wireless power supply > or > > night-time solar power...? > > scary Illuminati > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 21:47:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BED83BEEA; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4182.128.193.37.212.1144446432.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <7637098.1144441836861.JavaMail.root@web15> References: <7637098.1144441836861.JavaMail.root@web15> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <0NeJ-C.A.kRF.i3tNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:47:14 +0000 (UTC) > ---- daniel stevenson wrote: >> im taking boss customer supports word on this.but that >> huge box has no room for batteries#$%#*(%%$... In most cases it just means an annoying power cord. If you're operating under special circumstances that require it to be self-powered, get yourself a car battery, an inverter and a milk crate and you're using the electrical system that buskers have been using for years. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 7 23:45:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1CED3BEE4; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4436F9B2.7010708@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:45:54 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam References: <1f4d01c65a50$7117da70$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <44368A00.6090504@pdq.net> <1f8401c65a5e$a076e550$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <1144426553.443690392cada@webmail.musetrap.com> <1ff201c65a69$c8e255a0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4436A94E.3010506@pdq.net> In-Reply-To: <4436A94E.3010506@pdq.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Just 'coming back' from a two-hour-jam with someone in Canada (I'm located in Germany). I'm very enthusiastic about this. It worked very well with the "normal" Windows Client - will try the WASABI-Version this weekend. Dirk > FWIW - it looks like there is a version of the Ninjam client that can > send out MIDI clock based on the Ninjam BPM. It's on the download > page at the bottom - the Wasabi version of the Windows client. I > haven't actually tried it yet, but I saw a reference to this fact in > the Developer's forum. I downloaded it and ran it, and it does indeed > have a MIDI Clock Master check box and start/stop buttons. Having no > experience with Ninjam, I can only guess that this means it can send > the Ninjam clock out as MIDI clock. > > Hopefully that's useful for giving me a master MIDI clock that is in > time with the Ninjam clock. Makes rhythmic looping possible > (possibly?!) :) > > I'll explore a little more this weekend, including seeing if I can get > Ninjam server to run on my server at Bluehost.com. > I'll let you know what I discover, Kris. > > D > > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> What package are you using? Can you point to it? >> >> >>> I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. it is a server I >>> lease from >>> ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab between 2 location in >>> california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... >>> >>> as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you had a problem >>> running both the >>> shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the same machine? >>> >>> peace >>> -cpr >>> >>> Quoting Krispen Hartung : >>> >>>> I had no luck getting it to run using the Shoutcast server....never >>>> figured >>>> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run the Ninjam >>>> software, PLEASE >>>> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it is so nice to not >>>> have to use >>>> >>>> two separate servers and streaming software to have a duo >>>> collaboration >>>> performance....it's very complicated and required me to use two >>>> laptops. >>>> >>>> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything non-rhythmic, which is >>>> how I >>>> perform half the time anyway. >>>> >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - interested in >>>> hearing > if >>>> > you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your hosted server. >>>> > >>>> > Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It seems like >>>> Ninjam > forces >>>> >>>> > a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM being translated to >>>> a > MIDI >>>> > clock or similar it seems like your loops would eventually fall >>>> out of >>>> > synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just working with very ambient >>>> > pieces >>>> > and ignoring the Ninjam clock? >>>> > >>>> > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with my looping via >>>> MIDI > clock >>>> > :( >>>> > >>>> > Anyone? >>>> > >>>> > Krispen Hartung wrote: >>>> >> You install the software and then you go to >>>> >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a server and plug >>>> in >> the >>>> >> data into the Ninjam software you installed...then wait for the >>>> people >> to >>>> >>>> >> flock to you like moths to a flame. >>>> >> Kris >>>> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >> *From:* romain sido >>>> >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >>>> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >>>> >> *Subject:* about ninjam >>>> >> >>>> >> hi >>>> >> >>>> >> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. Ive downloaded >>>> it but >>>> >> i have no idea of how to use this software. Can you please help >>>> >> me, tell me how ninjam works. >>>> >> >>>> >> thanks, >>>> >> >>>> >> bye >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ** >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et recevez des e-mails depuis >>>> >> votre téléphone portable ! >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >>> >>> >> >> >> > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 00:42:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C36833BED6; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 00:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=igDvM9FejoFBp9Gppo+TnRP6gV8ccTWFo/OUhk9FPfC+KPcLoTqIzLQYDKy8a/d0QFBkYMSJ2XZEjNGG9tawdZWLQ02orBl3iKeQg3g9N7AJkJ55aaOeW7tJXZED31t6/hCElGIeIFLeUnzTvFPfaNGJhqk9bLttYinm3J0nXAU= ; Message-ID: <20060408004230.56241.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:42:30 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4182.128.193.37.212.1144446432.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 00:42:31 +0000 (UTC) my bicycle trailer will only hold so much and the engine is limited too,especially after a big breakfast.just not feasible to cross vast distances with...then there's the charging up issue...i am not carrying my gear "and" a car battery to the top of Kukulkan/Quetzalcoatl...lol thanks for the suggestion, busking the america's scary --- johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > > ---- daniel stevenson > wrote: > >> im taking boss customer supports word on this.but > that > >> huge box has no room for batteries#$%#*(%%$... > > In most cases it just means an annoying power cord. > If you're operating under > special circumstances that require it to be > self-powered, get yourself a car > battery, an inverter and a milk crate and you're > using the electrical system > that buskers have been using for years. > > Cheers, > Kevin > www.TheNettles.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 01:56:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 761D73BED2; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 01:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005101c65aaf$b7132660$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:56:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 01:56:56 +0000 (UTC) I am a confessed VST junkie. I have a zillion VSTs on my computer (and even lead a tribe dedicated to ferriting out ever new ones at tribe.net called the AudioPluginJunkiesAnnonymous). I usually only have a hand full installed (or selected) in FLStudio 6.0 which is my DAW drug of choice because i have discovered that one can waste a hell of a lot of time going through a zillion VSTs or even trying to remember the idiosyncratic name of one you've used before. In my folders on my computer I have them categorized to more quickly find them. As an example I have: COMPRESSOR plugins MODULATION plugins DISTORTION plugins SLICING plugins REVERB plugins CONVOLUTION plugins EQUALIZATION and TUNING plugins LO FI plugins PANNING plugins UTILITIES (with things like phase reversal, fourier analysis, spectrum analysis, et. al.), GRANULATION plugins PLUGIN SUITES (in case I remember that I want a TC electronics parametric equalizer---my favorite or a Waves True Verb---my second favorite behind Sony Acoustic Mirror. DELAY plugins GATE plugins VOCODING plugins and another folder that is my favorite and that I call my WEIRD PLUGINS folder What I find is that in thinking about processing something (unless I"m going for some weird randomization stuff which is one of the amazing thing about the new HIPNO plugins from Cycling 74) I generally have an idea what kind of processing I"m looking for and then it is good if I, for example, can go through several tube amplifier simulations quickly to decide what it is that I want to use. My only pet peeve with FLStudio right now is that I wish to hell it had a VST organizing system instead of the alphatized system I have now. There are many plugins by people like excellent shareware suites from TobyBear and FXPansion and the freeware collections from TweakBench, Darkware, XOXOX and others that have idiosyncratic names that it is frequently hard to remember. I also have a whole slew of VST instruments as well, from some paid ones to a hell of a lot freeware ones............wow I scored last night with some ones that are not even available anymore. I'm particularly in love with weird old organ sounds (not B3s and not Farfisas) and less popular electric piano sounds (as well as very idiosyncratic and one trick pony keyboards like the Hohner D6 Clavinet, the Wurlitzer Electric Piano, Celestes, et. al. ***************************** come join me at AUDIO PLUGIN JUNKIES ANNOYMOUS at tribe. e-mail me off list and i'll send you a personal invite. It's free to join and they don't give out any information so it is safe. Also, I sell a very inexpensive DVD with all of this stuff collated and organzized if anyone wants to contact me off line about it if you don't want to take the 6 years it took me to get it all together. I just charge for the time and expense it takes me to assemble, burn, package and mail it. I'm at rickwalker(at)looppool(dot)com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 02:05:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1551F3BED5; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 02:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005501c65ab0$ecd788d0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Favorite VST Instruments? Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:05:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 02:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Why don't we take an informal poll and list what we think are our very favorite plugins for processing loops 1) What are your desert island list of five plugins (no more than five but you can list suites) 2) Your favorite plugins in these categories a) modulation b) reverberation c) equalization d) glitch, chopping, slicing e) granular synthesis f) vocoder g) distortion h) lo fi i) filter j) compressors k) pre-amplification l) delay m) weird other ones From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 02:42:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 829143BED2; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 02:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <212601c65ab6$0b88a4d0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <005101c65aaf$b7132660$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:42:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 523, in=263968, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 02:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Definitely get Rick's DVD, folks...it's well worth it. HIPNO...I want that so bad.....however, I loaded the demo on my system the other day, and it it really messed up things. I read that you need a new version of Pluggo to run it, and I updated my current version of Pluggo, but something was still not right. Basically, when I tried to open a Hipno plugin in my VST host, it would hang the system. It seemed to happen after I installed my webcam. Before I installed the webcam, I could open the Hipno plugins, but for obvious reasons I couldn't use the webcam and the Hipno-scope. From what I heard on a few of those plugins, I was completely blown away. I may have to just buy it and work with tech support to resolve the problem. I want Hipno! No, I neeeeeeed it. My want has now become a psychological need. :) You have it, Rick? Lucky bastard.... Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "loop.pool" >I am a confessed VST junkie. > What I find is that in thinking about processing something (unless I"m > going for some weird randomization stuff which is one of the amazing thing > about the new HIPNO plugins from Cycling 74) I generally have an idea what > kind of processing I"m looking for and then it is good if I, for example, > can go through several tube amplifier simulations quickly to decide what > it is that I want to use. > come join me at AUDIO PLUGIN JUNKIES ANNOYMOUS at tribe. e-mail me off > list and i'll send you a personal invite. > It's free to join and they don't give out any information so it is safe. > Also, I sell a very inexpensive DVD with all of this stuff collated and > organzized if anyone wants to contact me off line about it > if you don't want to take the 6 years it took me to get it all together. > I just charge for the time and expense it takes me to > assemble, burn, package and mail it. > > I'm at rickwalker(at)looppool(dot)com. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 02:56:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A0293BED3; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 02:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <212601c65ab6$0b88a4d0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <005101c65aaf$b7132660$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <212601c65ab6$0b88a4d0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <2203aceb85c895c1f5c803c717426120@pfmentum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: hipno Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:56:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 02:56:17 +0000 (UTC) hipno should run great on your machine.....hmmmmm....... pask runs it=20 on his pc all the time. it pretty much kicks ass. he gave me a demo of=20= it....some reverb/delay with video control....I hope to get it=20 soon....oh yeah, and amogwai....man, I want it too..... Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:42 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Definitely get Rick's DVD, folks...it's well worth it. > > HIPNO...I want that so bad.....however, I loaded the demo on my system=20= > the other day, and it it really messed up things. I read that you=20 > need a new version of Pluggo to run it, and I updated my current=20 > version of Pluggo, but something was still not right. Basically, when=20= > I tried to open a Hipno plugin in my VST host, it would hang the=20 > system. It seemed to happen after I installed my webcam. Before I=20 > installed the webcam, I could open the Hipno plugins, but for obvious=20= > reasons I couldn't use the webcam and the Hipno-scope. =46rom what I=20= > heard on a few of those plugins, I was completely blown away. I may=20 > have to just buy it and work with tech support to resolve the problem. > > I want Hipno! No, I neeeeeeed it. My want has now become a=20 > psychological need. :) > > You have it, Rick? Lucky bastard.... > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "loop.pool" > >> I am a confessed VST junkie. >> What I find is that in thinking about processing something (unless=20 >> I"m going for some weird randomization stuff which is one of the=20 >> amazing thing about the new HIPNO plugins from Cycling 74) I=20 >> generally have an idea what kind of processing I"m looking for and=20 >> then it is good if I, for example, can go through several tube=20 >> amplifier simulations quickly to decide what it is that I want to=20 >> use. > >> come join me at AUDIO PLUGIN JUNKIES ANNOYMOUS at tribe. e-mail me=20= >> off list and i'll send you a personal invite. >> It's free to join and they don't give out any information so it is=20 >> safe. > >> Also, I sell a very inexpensive DVD with all of this stuff collated=20= >> and organzized if anyone wants to contact me off line about it >> if you don't want to take the 6 years it took me to get it all=20 >> together. I just charge for the time and expense it takes me to >> assemble, burn, package and mail it. >> >> I'm at rickwalker(at)looppool(dot)com. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 03:09:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9A4A3BECA; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 03:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <213501c65ab9$d45a5fe0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <005501c65ab0$ecd788d0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: Favorite VST Instruments? Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:09:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 525, in=266714, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <_b4k1D.A.isG.jlyNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 03:09:23 +0000 (UTC) > Why don't we take an informal poll and list what we think are our very > favorite plugins for processing loops I'd love to Rick! > 1) What are your desert island list of five plugins (no more than five > but you can list suites) 1. Lexicon PSP84 / Lexicon PSP42 (they are two different VST effects, but I bought them as a packae deal) 2. Cycling '74 Pluggo (my favorite inside this sweet is the Feedback Network and Squirell Parade) 3. Antares Filter 4. Reaktor VST Suite (I love Metaphysical) 5. MHC Space Effect 2.0 > 2) Your favorite plugins in these categories > a) modulation: KJAERHUS Audio Classic Chorus, Edge (pitch), Mathons > Chopitch (considered a mod effect? I didn't see pitch shifting below) > b) reverberation: ANWIDASOFT DX Reverb Light > c) equalization: KJAERHUS Audio Classic EQ > d) glitch, chopping, slicing: GlitchGirl (NEO), dbblue Glitch, > GlitchJockey > e) granular synthesis: Antares Kantos Audio Controlled Synthesizer > f) vocoder: ??? > g) distortion: ??? (can't find one I like) > h) lo fi: DFX Scrubby > i) filter: Antares Filter > j) compressors: KJAERHUS Audio Classic Compressor > k) pre-amplification: ??? (can't find one I like) > l) delay: PSP84, PSP42, MHC FLEX FX 2.0 Stereo Delay, NUSofting > Trimmetry Tapper, NUSofting Morphing Delay > m) weird other ones: ELOGOXA Sun Ra (Ambient texture generator), > SmartElecronix MadShifta, Brumblebum, BrushFX, Fxpansion Ringmod, Pudding, > ephonic, Warble, Rye, Weat, etc, etc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 04:28:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C29D3BECA; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 04:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GF49/sHnFwYHfLjFjUV6X8Nt97RV/Iu7ZbRM4yA2sSuSDsmvgcdqc4tKx7uIYEEX8ExUBIEmk3CqlGNetc8v2iW7J7w/l55RKl5tWoGOND+TmtsfqQlHKAXRedGFN5KAcqInAs1Bve82Fnw4UHBe7OQxu7cGDSjCcAU97k4kjjo= ; Message-ID: <20060408042819.14261.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:28:19 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: about ninjam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4436F9B2.7010708@rhein-zeitung.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-K57pC.A.11.kvzNEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 04:28:21 +0000 (UTC) This is very very interesting to me. When I heard about it from my friend a few months ago, I wrote it down but totally forgot about it. Has anyone tried it using the OS X client? Maybe when I get my Looperlatve talking to my midi controller I'll wander over. Is there a way to choose your jam mates? I think it would be interesting if we could form a ninjam "group" for loopers. --- Dirk Wilbert wrote: > Just 'coming back' from a two-hour-jam with someone > in Canada (I'm > located in Germany). > I'm very enthusiastic about this. It worked very > well with the "normal" > Windows Client - will try the WASABI-Version this > weekend. > > Dirk > > > FWIW - it looks like there is a version of the > Ninjam client that can > > send out MIDI clock based on the Ninjam BPM. It's > on the download > > page at the bottom - the Wasabi version of the > Windows client. I > > haven't actually tried it yet, but I saw a > reference to this fact in > > the Developer's forum. I downloaded it and ran > it, and it does indeed > > have a MIDI Clock Master check box and start/stop > buttons. Having no > > experience with Ninjam, I can only guess that this > means it can send > > the Ninjam clock out as MIDI clock. > > > > Hopefully that's useful for giving me a master > MIDI clock that is in > > time with the Ninjam clock. Makes rhythmic > looping possible > > (possibly?!) :) > > > > I'll explore a little more this weekend, including > seeing if I can get > > Ninjam server to run on my server at Bluehost.com. > > I'll let you know what I discover, Kris. > > > > D > > > > Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> What package are you using? Can you point to it? > >> > >> > >>> I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. > it is a server I > >>> lease from > >>> ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab > between 2 location in > >>> california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... > >>> > >>> as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you > had a problem > >>> running both the > >>> shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the > same machine? > >>> > >>> peace > >>> -cpr > >>> > >>> Quoting Krispen Hartung : > >>> > >>>> I had no luck getting it to run using the > Shoutcast server....never > >>>> figured > >>>> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run > the Ninjam > >>>> software, PLEASE > >>>> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it > is so nice to not > >>>> have to use > >>>> > >>>> two separate servers and streaming software to > have a duo > >>>> collaboration > >>>> performance....it's very complicated and > required me to use two > >>>> laptops. > >>>> > >>>> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything > non-rhythmic, which is > >>>> how I > >>>> perform half the time anyway. > >>>> > >>>> Kris > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam > forums - interested in > >>>> hearing > if > >>>> > you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your > hosted server. > >>>> > > >>>> > Also, have you had any luck with synch > issues? It seems like > >>>> Ninjam > forces > >>>> > >>>> > a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM > being translated to > >>>> a > MIDI > >>>> > clock or similar it seems like your loops > would eventually fall > >>>> out of > >>>> > synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just > working with very ambient > >>>> > pieces > >>>> > and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > >>>> > > >>>> > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM > with my looping via > >>>> MIDI > clock > >>>> > :( > >>>> > > >>>> > Anyone? > >>>> > > >>>> > Krispen Hartung wrote: > >>>> >> You install the software and then you go to > >>>> >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - > pick a server and plug > >>>> in >> the > >>>> >> data into the Ninjam software you > installed...then wait for the > >>>> people >> to > >>>> > >>>> >> flock to you like moths to a flame. > >>>> >> Kris > >>>> >> > >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> >> *From:* romain sido > > >>>> >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com > > >>>> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > >>>> >> *Subject:* about ninjam > >>>> >> > >>>> >> hi > >>>> >> > >>>> >> im a guitar player and i heard about > ninjam. Ive downloaded > >>>> it but > >>>> >> i have no idea of how to use this > software. Can you please help > >>>> >> me, tell me how ninjam works. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> thanks, > >>>> >> > >>>> >> bye > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> ** > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>>> > >>>> >> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et > recevez des e-mails depuis > >>>> >> votre téléphone portable ! >> > >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet > Messaging Program. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > . > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 05:29:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 136FA3BED3; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 05:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PtsZ+YvCZKB8pgjW6j3hhmfeZ4bbIUatIQDWVadxX9XBsY5Uc2mvPlXs70RulQ6BBNMCPsCwtsmp8ry4FHvDfSwRjucW1bod3SO5QZp6+ZUKlsAFHWkp9O/MGSANPL6bMxpxn2apBvEp7ZERQZGNkkZEXcdOL/05fk0ursWwKBI= Message-ID: <913728d60604072229h3d7e73b4n52d377cce6daf6d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 00:29:51 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam In-Reply-To: <20060408042819.14261.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4436F9B2.7010708@rhein-zeitung.de> <20060408042819.14261.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 05:29:52 +0000 (UTC) I have it for OSX, i'd love to give it a try if anyone wants to set a time = :) Charlie On 4/7/06, mark sottilaro wrote: > This is very very interesting to me. When I heard > about it from my friend a few months ago, I wrote it > down but totally forgot about it. Has anyone tried it > using the OS X client? Maybe when I get my > Looperlatve talking to my midi controller I'll wander > over. Is there a way to choose your jam mates? I > think it would be interesting if we could form a > ninjam "group" for loopers. > > --- Dirk Wilbert wrote: > > > Just 'coming back' from a two-hour-jam with someone > > in Canada (I'm > > located in Germany). > > I'm very enthusiastic about this. It worked very > > well with the "normal" > > Windows Client - will try the WASABI-Version this > > weekend. > > > > Dirk > > > > > FWIW - it looks like there is a version of the > > Ninjam client that can > > > send out MIDI clock based on the Ninjam BPM. It's > > on the download > > > page at the bottom - the Wasabi version of the > > Windows client. I > > > haven't actually tried it yet, but I saw a > > reference to this fact in > > > the Developer's forum. I downloaded it and ran > > it, and it does indeed > > > have a MIDI Clock Master check box and start/stop > > buttons. Having no > > > experience with Ninjam, I can only guess that this > > means it can send > > > the Ninjam clock out as MIDI clock. > > > > > > Hopefully that's useful for giving me a master > > MIDI clock that is in > > > time with the Ninjam clock. Makes rhythmic > > looping possible > > > (possibly?!) :) > > > > > > I'll explore a little more this weekend, including > > seeing if I can get > > > Ninjam server to run on my server at Bluehost.com. > > > I'll let you know what I discover, Kris. > > > > > > D > > > > > > Krispen Hartung wrote: > > >> What package are you using? Can you point to it? > > >> > > >> > > >>> I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. > > it is a server I > > >>> lease from > > >>> ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab > > between 2 location in > > >>> california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... > > >>> > > >>> as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you > > had a problem > > >>> running both the > > >>> shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the > > same machine? > > >>> > > >>> peace > > >>> -cpr > > >>> > > >>> Quoting Krispen Hartung : > > >>> > > >>>> I had no luck getting it to run using the > > Shoutcast server....never > > >>>> figured > > >>>> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run > > the Ninjam > > >>>> software, PLEASE > > >>>> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it > > is so nice to not > > >>>> have to use > > >>>> > > >>>> two separate servers and streaming software to > > have a duo > > >>>> collaboration > > >>>> performance....it's very complicated and > > required me to use two > > >>>> laptops. > > >>>> > > >>>> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything > > non-rhythmic, which is > > >>>> how I > > >>>> perform half the time anyway. > > >>>> > > >>>> Kris > > >>>> > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> > Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam > > forums - interested in > > >>>> hearing > if > > >>>> > you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your > > hosted server. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Also, have you had any luck with synch > > issues? It seems like > > >>>> Ninjam > forces > > >>>> > > >>>> > a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM > > being translated to > > >>>> a > MIDI > > >>>> > clock or similar it seems like your loops > > would eventually fall > > >>>> out of > > >>>> > synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just > > working with very ambient > > >>>> > pieces > > >>>> > and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > > >>>> > > > >>>> > I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM > > with my looping via > > >>>> MIDI > clock > > >>>> > :( > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Anyone? > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Krispen Hartung wrote: > > >>>> >> You install the software and then you go to > > >>>> >> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - > > pick a server and plug > > >>>> in >> the > > >>>> >> data into the Ninjam software you > > installed...then wait for the > > >>>> people >> to > > >>>> > > >>>> >> flock to you like moths to a flame. > > >>>> >> Kris > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> >> *From:* romain sido > > > > >>>> >> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com > > > > >>>> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > > >>>> >> *Subject:* about ninjam > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> hi > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> im a guitar player and i heard about > > ninjam. Ive downloaded > > >>>> it but > > >>>> >> i have no idea of how to use this > > software. Can you please help > > >>>> >> me, tell me how ninjam works. > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> thanks, > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> bye > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> ** > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >>>> > > >>>> >> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et > > recevez des e-mails depuis > > >>>> >> votre t=E9l=E9phone portable ! >> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet > > Messaging Program. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 06:08:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0E363BED2; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060407230719.01aafb40@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 23:08:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback In-Reply-To: <20060408004230.56241.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4182.128.193.37.212.1144446432.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <20060408004230.56241.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:08:39 +0000 (UTC) At 05:42 PM 4/7/2006, you wrote: >my bicycle trailer will only hold so much and the >engine is limited too,especially after a big >breakfast.just not feasible to cross vast distances >with...then there's the charging up issue...i am not >carrying my gear "and" a car battery to the top of >Kukulkan/Quetzalcoatl...lol I'm from Oregon. One of the sound guys I work with carries a full PA for a hall in two tandem bike trailers. Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 06:54:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 728FA3BED9; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=04AD0IRe7KmRuLElfcTbm7+jwu/vyBcnO7XOZ/Tjmvkdqdeujn5/BqjFyDGY2h7ZYkG6DmeANnBybbbI43JeLcpKHYvLK1V0QRZqPoiFI6MX3nYv8njhOQanlUJ58Fu8nL2W3wkrwRo38T37uUE52alHrj4v43sqDr6J0DAHrgE= ; Message-ID: <20060408065436.9214.qmail@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:54:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: MIDI LOOP SYNCING: 3 questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000901c659e9$0ce64f30$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1874571986-1144479276=:9206" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <8fcWlC.A.ttE.u41NEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:54:38 +0000 (UTC) --0-1874571986-1144479276=:9206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey Rick! ive done both live slaving the EDP to my mpc1000 sampler( i can send u some mp3s or a video of the "musica optica" show i did lat year where we composed music spontaneously to images at a cinema,and a little improv i did with a drummer. i use to use the EDP as the master when i had my first drum machime (bossdr.660 which u can preview in my CD) both work great depending how u want to use it,the only bad experience ive had with this is slaving 2 EDPs in stereo! cheers Luis "loop.pool" wrote: Hey guys and gals, I feel a little sheepish asking this question but I don't know the answer to it. but from your considerable experience: 1) what is the best live looping machine to DRIVE a midi sequencer or drum machine via mid? the LEXICON JAMMAN the EDP the REPEATER the LOOPERLATIVE Conversely, 2) what is the best live looping device to DRIVEN by a sequencer/drum machine the LEXICON JAMMAN the EDP the REPEATER the LOOPERLATIVE 3) Do you have a preference for which one does both things the best? Are there any tricks you use or things to watch out for? Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of experience with this and particularly not in the last several years, because I trust my sense of timing and resyncing loops on the fly when I improvise with people, but I have a couple of gigs coming up with sharp up and coming synthesists and want to get my tech together ahead of time when they do more straight forward dance oriented electronica where a drifting rhythmic sensibility is inappropriate due to stylistic constraints. thanks for your wisdom in advance, Rick Walker --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --0-1874571986-1144479276=:9206 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hey Rick!
ive done both live slaving the EDP to my mpc1000 sampler( i can send u some mp3s or a video of the "musica optica" show i did lat year where we composed music spontaneously to images at a cinema,and a little improv i did with a drummer.
i use to use the EDP as the master when i had my first drum machime (bossdr.660 which u can preview in my CD) both work great depending how u want to use it,the only bad experience ive had with this is slaving 2 EDPs in stereo!
cheers
Luis
 
 

"loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Hey guys and gals,

I feel a little sheepish asking this question but I don't know the answer to
it.
but from your considerable experience:

1) what is the best live looping machine to
DRIVE a midi sequencer or drum machine via mid?

the LEXICON JAMMAN
the EDP
the REPEATER
the LOOPERLATIVE


Conversely,
2) what is the best live looping device to DRIVEN by a sequencer/drum
machine

the LEXICON JAMMAN
the EDP
the REPEATER
the LOOPERLATIVE

3) Do you have a preference for which one does both things the best?


Are there any tricks you use or things to watch out for?

Oddly enough, I don't have a lot of experience with this and particularly
not in the last several years, because
I trust my sense of timing and resyncing loops on the fly when I improvise
with people, but I have a couple of gigs coming up with sharp up and coming
synthesists and want to get my tech together ahead of time when they do more
straight forward dance oriented electronica where a drifting
rhythmic sensibility is inappropriate due to stylistic constraints.

thanks for your wisdom in advance, Rick Walker


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Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --0-1874571986-1144479276=:9206-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 07:10:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C27303BEDB; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 07:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443761D7.2030603@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:10:15 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music (Was: music is not political) References: <20060405214758.E6E6D3BF0D@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060405225406.02bbaeb0@tiscali.co.uk> <4434C031.2020906@addcom.de> <7.0.0.16.0.20060406082133.01bc1150@TheNettles.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060406082133.01bc1150@TheNettles.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 07:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Kevin wrote: > I think that music is beyond language and emotion, although it touches > both. The more I become involved in music, the more inarticulate I > become in discussing it in the abstract. There is continuing scientific > research that shows how music enmeshes structures in our brains. But I > sense music more in a spiritual sense these days. In transcendent > performances, musicians and audience commune rather than communicate. I like that perpective... Music remains a mystery. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. 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Tom Heasley www.tomheasley.com --Apple-Mail-3-797879725 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 My Pal, Tuba Looper Tom Heasley, is having trouble with his email program and the LD list so he asked me to post this for him. _____________________ ArialI noticed the tuba looping thread and several mentions of my work recently (thanks guys).=A0 I=92d like to extend a special offer to anyone who is on the list to purchase my cds for $10 each, including shipping in the US.=A0 And for anyone who may wish to buy the complete set (including my third cd, Desert Triptych which features didjeridu instead of tuba), I=92ll send all three for $25, postage paid.=A0 International customers add $2 per disc for shipping, or $30 for all three titles.=A0 Money may be sent to me via PayPal with a note as to what you want, or checks may be sent to:=A0 Tom Heasley, 9663 Santa Monica Bl., Suite 125, Beverly Hills, CA=A0 90210.=A0 And if anyone is really in dire financial straights, but would love to have the music, write me and we can work out a special price. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 08:24:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64E703BED5; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 08:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 04:21:12 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to the AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <44377278.7000303@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 08:24:06 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ================================================================================ My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, April 8 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh All times are EDT / GMT-4. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 08:40:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 762F73BEE0; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 08:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=aW963B8RoYHJLsnOLiYVVSp/mhrFBRu6gQ76wXbjnniRKYvRhgtkEXgVMpxl8MpRgnxlbhYdrlUSTxAbkbCjpKudkTD6/36F1uJi2kS+xc8g4ddmMcqkcxRhGEn2nuCI5Wbk8HTHYZKKpVsqjM8CeqyF7AtLcRPV6UtdUWy1zPg= In-Reply-To: <005501c65ab0$ecd788d0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <005501c65ab0$ecd788d0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Favorite VST Instruments? Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:40:52 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 08:40:56 +0000 (UTC) On 8 apr 2006, at 04.05, loop.pool wrote: > Why don't we take an informal poll and list what we think are our > very favorite plugins for processing loops I'm not processing loops, but I loop my processed playing. I finally settled for this solutions because I find laptops not enough powerful, stable and controllable with regard to effect parameters. I also see a big difference in playing the effects as part of your instrument to be looped, comparing to first playing and then altering the sound. It just suits me better for live performance. So I run INSTRUMENTS --> FX BOX --> LAPTOP. However, the effects I us in my box, a TC FireworX, are just the usual stuff. I combine effect chains (including feeback loops as part of the effect chain) as patches to call up for playing. I also layer differently processed sound by stepping through effect patches, while playing, and record loop layers colored by different effects. Here's the list (not a feature list, only the processing I tend to use): - Expander, compressor, gate - Distortion, - Resonance filter, bandpass filter, phaser, resonant chord filter, - Formant, - Vocoder, - Ring modulator, synth waveform generator, - Pitch (harmonizer, dual or mono. Quadra achieved by linking two dual etc), - Chorus (an effect use very rarely, I kind o dislike the sound of it) - Flanger (sometimes applied to delayed signal, never to direct instrument sound), - Delay (many kinds - stereo, multi tap, often tempo synced) - Reverb, - Pan, - EQ (usually applied to wet effect signal to help defining the dry instrument tone) This is the basic "universal audio processing tool kit" and I don't feel the need for more. Eventually with the exception for Pluggo Rye and SpeedShifter that has to be applied by software. If I work a recorded piece I like to use Logic, which has about the same set of effects built into the application code - so no other plug-ins are needed. Generally I also tend to use less effects these days as I mangle sound directly by looping techniques. Working with a looper like Mobius makes it easy to experiment with complicated series of command actions, as you can sequence them in scripts, not having to to the actual high-speed-tap-dancing on the floor pedal controller ;-) For example, I was looking for "drums" to use when looping, but never found a stable software solution because everything had to be run as plug-ins and that leads to the need of a host application, and I have found that Mobius suits me much better when run as a standalone looper. If Mobiuse had been an OS X applications I would have been able to just open software drum machine (like GURU or RMX) on the same laptop, but since Mobius is Windows XP dependent there can only be one application using the sound card drivers. Finally I just settled with making up drum beats with my voice, or other instruments, and loop that. An old technique I've been using for long with the EDP came in handy here: sing a hi-hat pattern in HalfSpead and it will sound like a crispy super fast and tight dance hall hi- hat when brought back to normal speed. etc, etc... To achieve a cool machine-like static percussion effect I set up a couple of tempo synced gating patches in my effect box, so whatever noise I make it will arrive into the laptop as sliced up chunks on sixteen notes, triads or whatever. I also have a lot of Mobius scripts that go in and out of overdub mode in the same pattern as a hi-hat would play. That's a lot more fun than trying to adapt "a drum machine" that wasn't even designed for experimental looping in the first place. The "granular synthesis" plug-in in Rick's list appears interesting. Can be used on a real-time audio stream? I've done some granular synthesis in MetaSynth, but only as a way of altering already recorded audio. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 09:09:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 819093BECC; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: <005501c65ab0$ecd788d0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <091bc9f3a2738bd45707f9b85e2219e5@pfmentum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: Re: Favorite VST Instruments? Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 02:09:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:09:52 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 8, 2006, at 1:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I find laptops not enough powerful, stable and controllable with=20 > regard to effect parameters. I'm just curious....what specifically can't it do in regards to=20 controllability? I'm loving mine, with less meltdowns than when I was=20 using hardware, and way more flexibility with controlling parameters.=20 I'm probably courting disaster by mentioning how trouble-free my laptop=20= has been....especially before going on the road tomorrow....Also: I=20 played a set with a very experienced electric guitar player with=20 effects recently (no, not last weekend, a different gig), our gig=20 started an hour late because he was having connection problems with all=20= his pedals...just to say that there can be problems with hardware based=20= systems as well. OK, so now I'm worried my rig will crash in chicago=20 this next week.... > The "granular synthesis" plug-in in Rick's list appears interesting.=20= > Can be used on a real-time audio stream? I've done some granular=20 > synthesis in MetaSynth, but only as a way of altering already recorded=20= > audio. I do real-time granular synthesis with my rig...using various pluggos=20 and I've also been using the demo version of hipno. I like it, although=20= the hipno stuff takes a lot of CPU juice on my 1.5 ghz PowerBook G4=20 with a mere 512 MB of RAM. FWIW, I also do not process loops, I process my horn going in and then=20= loop that. although I will mess with the loops time, pitch, and=20 spatialization after they've been recorded (of course). The only VSTs I run on my performance rig are pluggo and Vintage=20 Warmer...everything else I create myself or cobble together with pieces=20= of code gleaned from lurking on the max list.... Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 09:38:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 417F13BED9; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Hcrd2XFC7GUw7QlsFnzbuHpxrUqKOxuG6Fi7KnylgBBTxAq1hteAk4W7Qj2UO5RkR+GlRchRIsoqfy6pk2WpvtLVswWZxpqi87njVEHM1NPyQfVk8QStSnZLENcccCe5tdFa1JdQGkHMgr+zSOPJZGC6mUn1sze+TqBOCyAZ18g= ; Message-ID: <20060408093820.95298.qmail@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:38:20 +0200 (CEST) From: rune fagereng Subject: Ableton-Mp3-website To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-586961982-1144489100=:91430" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:38:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-586961982-1144489100=:91430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ! I`ve just had Ableton live for 2 days, and I am eager to get some soundclip onto my website. Are there some easy way to make the liveclips from Ableton into mp3 ? Yes, I know this is silly questions for you profs and that I have too read manual, but still, any tips ? best regards Rune F --0-586961982-1144489100=:91430 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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I`ve just had Ableton live for 2 days, and I am eager to get some soundclip onto my website. Are there some easy way to make the liveclips from Ableton into mp3 ? Yes, I know this is silly questions for you profs and that I have too read manual, but still, any tips ?
 
best regards Rune F 
--0-586961982-1144489100=:91430-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 09:43:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C18B3BED6; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ZBr0eK0hzrYMmYCYkZSXiS3FoQ9DkUfcMo0DGiZ6gQDdy9GLZpuisQXzxZB1c4pgzHUM1425NpjMrstdbartRqKoHW42SAEsstnjJiLUMZIOUDr+dW5Gd/JhYBVZb6kbq8UmKkJ5XC4VnfGgTHvMXuWGy0hdWkJ3Ag9v+eXkWFo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <091bc9f3a2738bd45707f9b85e2219e5@pfmentum.com> References: <005501c65ab0$ecd788d0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <091bc9f3a2738bd45707f9b85e2219e5@pfmentum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <405F0562-D494-4499-A2C8-38AC876D1195@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Favorite VST Instruments? Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:43:41 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:43:44 +0000 (UTC) > On Apr 8, 2006, at 1:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> I find laptops not enough powerful, stable and controllable with >> regard to effect parameters. On 8 apr 2006, at 11.09, Jeff Kaiser wrote: > I'm just curious....what specifically can't it do in regards to > controllability? Nothing AFAIK. Laptops can do the same processing. I just find it more convenient to have all my effect chaining programs saved in an external box together with all parameters MIDI cc bindings, rather than having to run a audio plug-in host application and set up plug- in chains as "channel strip patches", or whatever the actual host application might call it. I also like the sound I managed to coax out of the TC FireworX device and regard it more like an instrument for every day I'm using it. And if you want to learn to play an instrument you shouldn't change it after you have once set it up for optimal usability. By using this external effect processor (PRE looping) I can eliminate the need for a host application. I can simply run only the Mobius looper on a laptop - and that's it. I'm not saying that "computers are bad", I just happened to bump into a rig that works well for me. I have not been researching software because I love software, I have been doing it only to find a suitable live looping rig. And now it turns out the pieces come together in this particular combination, and I then I want to use my time making music with it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 09:46:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FD943BECF; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fB6bC8+goy5HcogcWXCSR1ReKrLhZ8KYkQryxaA0wjufIK2zG7hzDb+trHv7uaa1+iPnDL27wzMhIvKM1IeyLsie7hkO8o8IpwiOsIiTNjNqlHoNIvAQPZXmR5AM6e3R6NZw4YfbNfr3P2AYpKT3TZsx1cEH2Ltps/jI52+KK78= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060408093820.95298.qmail@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20060408093820.95298.qmail@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <50E2C096-EDBB-4806-BEDE-9CFF06D8F940@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Ableton-Mp3-website Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:46:46 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:46:49 +0000 (UTC) On 8 apr 2006, at 11.38, rune fagereng wrote: > I`ve just had Ableton live for 2 days, and I am eager to get some > soundclip onto my website. Are there some easy way to make the > liveclips from Ableton into mp3 ? No. You have to use another applications to compress audio into mp3. Do a net search according to the OS you are using, there must be plenty of free mp3 encoding software for download. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 10:01:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75F1D3BED6; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443789D5.2090206@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:00:53 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam References: <4436F9B2.7010708@rhein-zeitung.de> <20060408042819.14261.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913728d60604072229h3d7e73b4n52d377cce6daf6d3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <913728d60604072229h3d7e73b4n52d377cce6daf6d3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:01:00 +0000 (UTC) I could go there on Tuesday - but you sound as if you'd like to try earlier... Dirk > I have it for OSX, i'd love to give it a try if anyone wants to set a time :) > > Charlie > > On 4/7/06, mark sottilaro wrote: > >> This is very very interesting to me. When I heard >> about it from my friend a few months ago, I wrote it >> down but totally forgot about it. Has anyone tried it >> using the OS X client? Maybe when I get my >> Looperlatve talking to my midi controller I'll wander >> over. Is there a way to choose your jam mates? I >> think it would be interesting if we could form a >> ninjam "group" for loopers. >> >> --- Dirk Wilbert wrote: >> >> >>> Just 'coming back' from a two-hour-jam with someone >>> in Canada (I'm >>> located in Germany). >>> I'm very enthusiastic about this. It worked very >>> well with the "normal" >>> Windows Client - will try the WASABI-Version this >>> weekend. >>> >>> Dirk >>> >>> >>>> FWIW - it looks like there is a version of the >>>> >>> Ninjam client that can >>> >>>> send out MIDI clock based on the Ninjam BPM. It's >>>> >>> on the download >>> >>>> page at the bottom - the Wasabi version of the >>>> >>> Windows client. I >>> >>>> haven't actually tried it yet, but I saw a >>>> >>> reference to this fact in >>> >>>> the Developer's forum. I downloaded it and ran >>>> >>> it, and it does indeed >>> >>>> have a MIDI Clock Master check box and start/stop >>>> >>> buttons. Having no >>> >>>> experience with Ninjam, I can only guess that this >>>> >>> means it can send >>> >>>> the Ninjam clock out as MIDI clock. >>>> >>>> Hopefully that's useful for giving me a master >>>> >>> MIDI clock that is in >>> >>>> time with the Ninjam clock. Makes rhythmic >>>> >>> looping possible >>> >>>> (possibly?!) :) >>>> >>>> I'll explore a little more this weekend, including >>>> >>> seeing if I can get >>> >>>> Ninjam server to run on my server at Bluehost.com. >>>> I'll let you know what I discover, Kris. >>>> >>>> D >>>> >>>> Krispen Hartung wrote: >>>> >>>>> What package are you using? Can you point to it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. >>>>>> >>> it is a server I >>> >>>>>> lease from >>>>>> ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab >>>>>> >>> between 2 location in >>> >>>>>> california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... >>>>>> >>>>>> as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you >>>>>> >>> had a problem >>> >>>>>> running both the >>>>>> shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the >>>>>> >>> same machine? >>> >>>>>> peace >>>>>> -cpr >>>>>> >>>>>> Quoting Krispen Hartung : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I had no luck getting it to run using the >>>>>>> >>> Shoutcast server....never >>> >>>>>>> figured >>>>>>> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run >>>>>>> >>> the Ninjam >>> >>>>>>> software, PLEASE >>>>>>> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it >>>>>>> >>> is so nice to not >>> >>>>>>> have to use >>>>>>> >>>>>>> two separate servers and streaming software to >>>>>>> >>> have a duo >>> >>>>>>> collaboration >>>>>>> performance....it's very complicated and >>>>>>> >>> required me to use two >>> >>>>>>> laptops. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything >>>>>>> >>> non-rhythmic, which is >>> >>>>>>> how I >>>>>>> perform half the time anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam >>>>>>>> >>> forums - interested in >>> >>>>>>> hearing > if >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your >>>>>>>> >>> hosted server. >>> >>>>>>>> Also, have you had any luck with synch >>>>>>>> >>> issues? It seems like >>> >>>>>>> Ninjam > forces >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM >>>>>>>> >>> being translated to >>> >>>>>>> a > MIDI >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> clock or similar it seems like your loops >>>>>>>> >>> would eventually fall >>> >>>>>>> out of >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just >>>>>>>> >>> working with very ambient >>> >>>>>>>> pieces >>>>>>>> and ignoring the Ninjam clock? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM >>>>>>>> >>> with my looping via >>> >>>>>>> MIDI > clock >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Krispen Hartung wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You install the software and then you go to >>>>>>>>> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - >>>>>>>>> >>> pick a server and plug >>> >>>>>>> in >> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> data into the Ninjam software you >>>>>>>>> >>> installed...then wait for the >>> >>>>>>> people >> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> flock to you like moths to a flame. >>>>>>>>> Kris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> *From:* romain sido >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* about ninjam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> im a guitar player and i heard about >>>>>>>>> >>> ninjam. Ive downloaded >>> >>>>>>> it but >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i have no idea of how to use this >>>>>>>>> >>> software. Can you please help >>> >>>>>>>>> me, tell me how ninjam works. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bye >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>>>>>>> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et >>>>>>>>> >>> recevez des e-mails depuis >>> >>>>>>>>> votre téléphone portable ! >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet >>>>>> >>> Messaging Program. >>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> > > > . > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 10:04:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17F3E3BEE9; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TYfa3yMsDXR111b7amLz0ABiygaBzDK28ELwEibsVJ9eplUFGSLjiK59CHAc0daMoPfPaKLOEkWbEiGxwZ4Jm36665jZeECx3jlAS23nxqaE435lYP0YfW8NUGsZSdPtAyJVFLNflECnZLa4r4vqdRbwb02gMQlGRxWB8FNUqgM= ; Message-ID: <20060408100405.4834.qmail@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:04:05 +0200 (CEST) From: rune fagereng Subject: Vedr. Re: Ableton-Mp3-website To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <50E2C096-EDBB-4806-BEDE-9CFF06D8F940@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1701410847-1144490645=:3646" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <9-v3MC.A.SHC.Wq4NEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:04:06 +0000 (UTC) --0-1701410847-1144490645=:3646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Whats the format on the saved material on ableton ? RF Per Boysen skrev: On 8 apr 2006, at 11.38, rune fagereng wrote: > I`ve just had Ableton live for 2 days, and I am eager to get some > soundclip onto my website. Are there some easy way to make the > liveclips from Ableton into mp3 ? No. You have to use another applications to compress audio into mp3. Do a net search according to the OS you are using, there must be plenty of free mp3 encoding software for download. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) --0-1701410847-1144490645=:3646 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Whats the format on the saved material on ableton ?
 
RF

Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> skrev:
On 8 apr 2006, at 11.38, rune fagereng wrote:

> I`ve just had Ableton live for 2 days, and I am eager to get some
> soundclip onto my website. Are there some easy way to make the
> liveclips from Ableton into mp3 ?

No. You have to use another applications to compress audio into mp3.
Do a net search according to the OS you are using, there must be
plenty of free mp3 encoding software for download.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast)





--0-1701410847-1144490645=:3646-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 10:24:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0C943BEE8; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ugiWlqGVfpA11w5jsh4c6VJvOteR1DdYtILx4jHF51BZM5o1E7vKy6f/Af8t73IFyq85Et6i/4gGGaNEDwFL89TxxxpqvX9iRTX/JKvqu7UsUyJekDIME/jR6kj1h5bp5nx6/+iNxM1EOYAOfUJEIvA2An7wo4da/Lwpw2wzUPw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060408100405.4834.qmail@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20060408100405.4834.qmail@web26215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9CB8506C-C935-4DEB-B201-0F633A0D47D8@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Vedr. Re: Ableton-Mp3-website Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:24:01 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:24:04 +0000 (UTC) On 8 apr 2006, at 12.04, rune fagereng wrote: > Whats the format on the saved material on ableton ? Didn't you say you have Live there? ;-) Depending on what "material" is being saved there are many formats. For audio files either Wav or Aiff are used. When rendering to disc you can chose the bit depth from 16, 24 or 32. For recording you can chose the sampling frequency from 32000 KHz to 196000 KHz. So far audio, but Live also has a lot of propriety formats for saving playback settings for audio files (saved as an extra file, beside the actual audio file, holding the playback data), effect parameter settings and chains of effects (kind of "effect rack setup" format). You can find more details on that in the manual if you are interested. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 10:38:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E63F3BED9; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Favorite VST Instruments? Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:38:00 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001701c65af8$828ee570$0601a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <005501c65ab0$ecd788d0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Thread-Index: AcZasOzJGPxb6j4nStO4/ZDBLHksWwARdVhw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Rick, I'm somewhat confused by this message of yours. In the subject, you're asking about VST instruments (VSTi), yet you ask about plugins for processing loops. I'll include both categories here... ad 1: in no specific order SupaTrigga Magneto mda epiano PSP Nitro Mobius ad 2: a) (no favourites, except for Nitro) b) RoomVerb c) use Live's EQ3/EQ4 most of the time, for creative use: dfx EQ sync = stereo d) Supatrigga, dfx Geometer, dfx Scrubby e) - f) - g) OctBUZ (for solo instruments), Magneto (for 2-bus) h) - i) MadShifta j) use Ableton's CompI most of the time, otherwise Waves C1, Magneto k) Amplitube l) OhmBoyz m) Crazy Ivan, Silver Box, Sun Ra =09 Rainer > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com]=20 > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. April 2006 04:06 > An: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) > Betreff: Favorite VST Instruments? >=20 > Why don't we take an informal poll and list what we think are=20 > our very favorite plugins for processing loops >=20 > 1) What are your desert island list of five plugins (no more=20 > than five but you can list suites) >=20 >=20 > 2) Your favorite plugins in these categories >=20 >=20 > a) modulation > b) reverberation > c) equalization > d) glitch, chopping, slicing > e) granular synthesis > f) vocoder > g) distortion > h) lo fi > i) filter > j) compressors > k) pre-amplification > l) delay > m) weird other ones=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 11:21:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1D7F3BED5; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <21bc01c65afe$9ba5b880$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <001701c65af8$828ee570$0601a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: Favorite VST Instruments? Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 05:21:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 524, in=264033, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:21:43 +0000 (UTC) I forgot about Crazy Ivan...I love that! It's savagely loud though... you really have to crank it down. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 4:38 AM Subject: AW: Favorite VST Instruments? Rick, I'm somewhat confused by this message of yours. In the subject, you're asking about VST instruments (VSTi), yet you ask about plugins for processing loops. I'll include both categories here... ad 1: in no specific order SupaTrigga Magneto mda epiano PSP Nitro Mobius ad 2: a) (no favourites, except for Nitro) b) RoomVerb c) use Live's EQ3/EQ4 most of the time, for creative use: dfx EQ sync stereo d) Supatrigga, dfx Geometer, dfx Scrubby e) - f) - g) OctBUZ (for solo instruments), Magneto (for 2-bus) h) - i) MadShifta j) use Ableton's CompI most of the time, otherwise Waves C1, Magneto k) Amplitube l) OhmBoyz m) Crazy Ivan, Silver Box, Sun Ra Rainer > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. April 2006 04:06 > An: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) > Betreff: Favorite VST Instruments? > > Why don't we take an informal poll and list what we think are > our very favorite plugins for processing loops > > 1) What are your desert island list of five plugins (no more > than five but you can list suites) > > > 2) Your favorite plugins in these categories > > > a) modulation > b) reverberation > c) equalization > d) glitch, chopping, slicing > e) granular synthesis > f) vocoder > g) distortion > h) lo fi > i) filter > j) compressors > k) pre-amplification > l) delay > m) weird other ones > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 11:32:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D6483BED6; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation-Mail-From: loopersdelight@swyatt.com via u15184937 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(88.109.254.225):SA:0(-0.7/5.0):. Processed in 2.059935 secs Process 2296) Message-ID: <44379F4E.9080201@swyatt.com> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:32:30 +0100 From: Stuart Wyatt User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Favorite VST Instruments? References: <001701c65af8$828ee570$0601a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <001701c65af8$828ee570$0601a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0614-3, 04/07/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:32:57 +0000 (UTC) I don't tend to use many FX plugins in my setup other than Reverb, and find Live's own reverb is good enough for performances. For mastering, there is nothing that beats TC Native Reverb in my eyes. Currently, I just have IK Media Sampletank V2 and Mobius running through Live. - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 11:37:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4925D3BECA; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAEw8N0SFOYMdLA Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060408123402.0286de00@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:34:49 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Re: Favorite VST Instruments? In-Reply-To: <20060408112143.05C823BEDC@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060408112143.05C823BEDC@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <-b1NbB.A.oSE.1B6NEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:37:25 +0000 (UTC) >not having to to the >actual high-speed-tap-dancing on the floor pedal controller ;-) :-( but that's the best bit andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 13:03:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 363C63BEB9; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 13:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:01:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for April 8, 2006 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <4437B410.2090605@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 13:03:44 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2006/060408.html I host the Saturday AM/FM Show every other week where I play electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #85 April 8, 2006. During Phase I of this show, I continued the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================ Steve Roach and Somewhere * Somewhere (Projekt) vidnaObmana VA [Edgar Froese] Golgath and the Circle Edition #7 Sampler (Groove) Closes VA [Maitreya] E-Live 2005 Part 1 Edition #7 Sampler (Groove) VA [Maitreya] E-Live 2005 Part 2 Edition #7 Sampler (Groove) VA [Self Oscillate] Hyx Edition #7 Sampler (Groove) Saul Stokes Chrome Garden Vast (The Foundry) VA [Kees Aerts] Grey Keys Analogy Volume 1 (Groove) VA [Altres] Brain Flame Analogy Volume 1 (Groove) Phase II/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================ ShadowPlay 1.2 Kashmir CDR (none) The Flower Kings Selfconsuming Fire Paradox Hotel (InsideOut) The Flower Kings Mommy Leave the Light On Paradox Hotel (InsideOut) The Flower Kings End On A High Note Paradox Hotel (InsideOut) Echolyn Georgia Pine The End Is Beautiful (Velveteen) Univers Zero Meandres Live (Cuneiform) Ray Russell Everywhere Goodbye Svengali (Cuneiform) 8:00 am * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) I return to the AM/FM Show on April 22. On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Bill ========================================================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT (GMT-4:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm ========================================================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ========================================================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 16:30:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1E983BEC7; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4437E522.7040406@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:30:26 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) References: <005101c65aaf$b7132660$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <212601c65ab6$0b88a4d0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <212601c65ab6$0b88a4d0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > HIPNO...I want that so bad.....however... > From what I heard on a few of those plugins, I was completely blown > away. I may have to just buy it and work with tech support to resolve > the problem. The people at cycling are very helpfull, they will resolve your problem even if you don't by it (yet). Tell them I sent you... It might be worth to download again and try again, there had been a recent change with the places where parts are stored, to avoid some of the hassle that had been there before. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 16:38:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51C143BECC; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4437E6F7.6080100@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:38:15 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My VST Effects Share (over 400) References: <005101c65aaf$b7132660$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <005101c65aaf$b7132660$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:38:21 +0000 (UTC) loop.pool wrote: > I am a confessed VST junkie. > > I have a zillion VSTs on my computer (and even lead a tribe dedicated to > ferriting out ever new ones > at tribe.net called the AudioPluginJunkiesAnnonymous). With VST's the same thing happend as with synthesizer sounds, I stopped even listening thru, and instead do it myself. I mus be missing a lot... But if you have an idea what you think you want, and it doesn't exist. Drop me a line, I might be able to hack it into Pluggo > I also have a whole slew of VST instruments as well, from some paid ones > to a hell of a lot freeware ones............wow I scored last night with > some ones that are not even available anymore. What did those do? I have a collection of Max abstractions which resemble old Max externals which are not available anymore, I could start an abhaXions series with old plug-ins as well... (I'd need at least a picture and maybe a manual) > come join me at AUDIO PLUGIN JUNKIES ANNOYMOUS at tribe. e-mail me off > list and i'll send you a personal invite. Yeah (I am a "weird music mailing lists" junkie who isn't able to keep track of all his lists anymore...) Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 8 22:25:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6BC93BED2; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4438385A.4030301@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:25:30 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback References: <7637098.1144441836861.JavaMail.root@web15> <002d01c65a85$6e81fa40$6501a8c0@DELL> In-Reply-To: <002d01c65a85$6e81fa40$6501a8c0@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:25:39 +0000 (UTC) I tested the RC50 at "Musikmesse" Frankfurt for about half an hour - the unit was a bit buggy but I think Boss/Roland won't ship RC50s with errors. As I'm new to the "loop topic" I read a lot the last few weeks.... most on loopers-delight. I had Electro Harmonix 2880, Boss RC50, Digitech Jamman Looper and Electrix Repeater in focus. I think it's gonna be the the RC50 - it just felt "right" for me when I tested it and the features (stereo / easy interface / 3 loops with own foot pedals) are just what I wanted. The Electro Harmonix 2880 doesn't feature undo in any way, does it? Repeater would have been great (looking at the features) but is the company Electrix still alive? A Repeater Mk 2 would be very intersting... I did a short test of Digitech Jamman Looper, too but somehow had difficulties to get along with it - although it first seemed to be very easy to use; maybe I should check it again ... All those units I mentioned don't feature feedback, am I right? Dirk > My RC-50 is supposed to in Today from Sweetwater and be here Mid next week > via Fedex....I would call Sweetwater as I think they are one of the first to > be getting the RC-50...I had one on order from Musiciansbuy.com and they > emailed and said to due to a manufacturer backorder they wouldn't be getting > the units until June!!!...I knew they had been put on the backburner by > Roland so they could send units to the higher volume dealers so I cancelled > my order looked around and Sweetwater accomodated. > > As far as the unit having no feeback control, I can see that being an issue > for ambient loop artists and others but not for the kind of thing I want to > do with the unit. And Batteries...It's rare for a piece of gear that complex > to be able to run on batteries and i'm not sure it would benefit a wide > enough sector of users. I Think the RC-50 has great promise for some of us. > > Sean Mormelo > www.seanmormelo.com > www.myspace.com/seanmormelo > EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo > www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Cc: "daniel stevenson" > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback > > > >> I just ordered mine from AMS and am anxiously awaiting the 5-6-06 ship >> > date. This may be a good intermediary device between the EDP and lower-end > loopers. > >> I also ordered another new device: the Roland HPD-10 cheap-o Handsonic. I >> > had the big brother and really liked it. I hope this one isn't a > pig-in-the-poke. > >> -- >> Paul Richards >> >> ---- daniel stevenson wrote: >> >>> im taking boss customer supports word on this.but that >>> huge box has no room for batteries#$%#*(%%$...seemed >>> confused about the subject of feedback control but >>> said the loops stayed infinite....bummer >>> will someone please invent wireless power supply or >>> night-time solar power...? >>> scary Illuminati >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>> >> >> > > . > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 04:01:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D50813BED2; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 04:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zEKwhatjaSuA1wNOK38vUGaoSwxTSUtYgWoPq79amEzHet0lRsoj0cSUyFUI23OLBL4h9B8g92QEwaz81qqJ74iDs2TDoAy58JYzN7aqDHsnTZZsQLO8Cea+ZQ7h0kkmJyvlWqIBqHQkVunGxUS3Q35SUNbFvv2mWCubb/gDh0g= ; Message-ID: <20060409040105.61424.qmail@web37911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:01:05 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060407230719.01aafb40@TheNettles.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 04:01:07 +0000 (UTC) wow .how much does thaat payload weigh,is there a lot of hills,and how many miles is the gig bottoms up, dizzy --- Kevin wrote: > At 05:42 PM 4/7/2006, you wrote: > >my bicycle trailer will only hold so much and the > >engine is limited too,especially after a big > >breakfast.just not feasible to cross vast distances > >with...then there's the charging up issue...i am > not > >carrying my gear "and" a car battery to the top of > >Kukulkan/Quetzalcoatl...lol > > I'm from Oregon. One of the sound guys I work with > carries a full PA > for a hall in two tandem bike trailers. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 05:28:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63AA33BED6; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 01:31:24 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: worldelectronicalooping: modulo tanbura Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Ambient improv piece I put together recently: not overly complicated, but thought I'd share it. Mp3, eighteen minutes of instrumental ambient variable-stutter loops. http://www.subscapeannex.com/other/modulo_tanbura.mp3 Gear: Raagini Pro tanbura sampler, Chapman Stick and E-Bow, processed through 1-2 of the following at any given time: Moog Moogerfooger analog delays (MF-104, MF-104SD), Moog bass MuRF, Moog phaser, Z-Vex Woolly Mammoth bass fuzz, and layered using three loopers (Digitech Jamman, Boss RC-20, E-H 16sec reissue). regards, Steve B http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 05:46:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 965A13BED3; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002d01c65a85$6e81fa40$6501a8c0@DELL> References: <7637098.1144441836861.JavaMail.root@web15> <002d01c65a85$6e81fa40$6501a8c0@DELL> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:37:22 -0700 To: "Sean Mormelo" , From: David Gans Subject: Re: rc 50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:46:01 +0000 (UTC) How much is Sweetwater charging for the RC-50? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 05:46:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B69513BEE4; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060406204108.42263.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060406204108.42263.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:40:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: RE: BAY AREA new music scene: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:46:01 +0000 (UTC) At 1:41 PM -0700 4/6/06, mark sottilaro wrote: >Moved back to SF in 99. Things have changed a bit for >the better for sure, but they're still not great. SF seems like a pretty shitty market for music in general. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 05:46:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 438D43BEEA; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01aa01c659fb$e657b990$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <01aa01c659fb$e657b990$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:43:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: RE: BAY AREA new music scene: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:46:02 +0000 (UTC) At 9:29 PM -0700 4/6/06, loop.pool wrote: >I do know, though , that much much more is happening in terms of new >electronic in Oakland than is happening in San Francisco these days >but the trouble is actually reaching all these talented young >musicians who have sequestered themselves in cheap warehouses in the >bad section so town. Hey, I'm in Oakland. Where are these people hanging out and playing? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 05:51:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FF0A3BEDA; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20051230113250.70608.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051230113250.70608.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:47:19 -0700 To: rcw@midwickhill.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1067560639==_ma============" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:51:00 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1067560639==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 3:32 AM -0800 12/30/05, Rickmond C. Wong wrote: >another general question for all the wise ones on this >board ^^. what's the best way to split your guitar >signal into two EDPs? do you just use a Y patch cord >without much signal degradation? or do you put some >sort of DI or splitter box in front? I'm in the market for just such a thing myself. http://www.axess-electronics.com/_p_bs2.htm -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com --============_-1067560639==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs?
At 3:32 AM -0800 12/30/05, Rickmond C. Wong wrote:
another general question for all the wise ones on this
board ^^. what's the best way to split your guitar
signal into two EDPs? do you just use a Y patch cord
without much signal degradation? or do you put some
sort of DI or splitter box in front?

I'm in the market for just such a thing myself.

http://www.axess-electronics.com/_p_bs2.htm


--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://playback.trufun.com
--============_-1067560639==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 06:32:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93B203BED5; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 06:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001101c65b9f$70ee7040$6501a8c0@DELL> Reply-To: "Sean Mormelo" From: "Sean Mormelo" To: References: <7637098.1144441836861.JavaMail.root@web15> <002d01c65a85$6e81fa40$6501a8c0@DELL> Subject: Re: rc 50 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:32:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 06:32:54 +0000 (UTC) got it for $499 with 2 day Fedex to Alaska.. Sean Mormelo www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gans" To: "Sean Mormelo" ; Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 9:37 PM Subject: Re: rc 50 > > > How much is Sweetwater charging for the RC-50? > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 15:00:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10E503BECD; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 15:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: References: <01aa01c659fb$e657b990$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-931408532 Message-Id: <3BABF8DE-EFF2-4EEC-98B3-5B1F94B2D3E0@skeletonhome.com> From: bruce tovsky Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:00:49 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: <8zYBs.A.TjD.lGSOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 15:00:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-931408532 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Apr 9, 2006, at 1:43 AM, David Gans wrote: > Hey, I'm in Oakland. Where are these people hanging out and playing? i played a show in december at 21 grand, really nice warehouse-style space with a good sound system. the music curator there, sarah lockhart, has great taste - fred frith and other well known names have played there. i did a show with kim cascone there and we had a great time, a cd will soon be released of that show. i also recommend the luggage store gallery in SF, matt davignon and friends put on some great shows there, and it's also a fantastic place to perform. cheers bruce bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Douglas Adams --Apple-Mail-2-931408532 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Apr 9, 2006, at = 1:43 AM, David Gans wrote:

Hey, I'm in Oakland.=A0 Where are these people = hanging out and playing?


i played a show in december at = 21 grand, really nice warehouse-style

space with a good sound system. the music curator there, = sarah lockhart,

has = great taste - fred frith and other well known names have played = there.

i did a show with = kim cascone there and we had a great time, a cd will soon

be released of that show. i = also recommend the luggage store gallery in

SF, matt davignon and friends put on some great shows = there, and it's also

a = fantastic place to perform.

cheers

bruce


bruce tovsky

www.skeletonhome.com


=

"Flying is learning how to = throw yourself at the ground and miss."

Douglas Adams

=

= --Apple-Mail-2-931408532-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 15:17:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCEBB3BEDA; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 15:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000901c65be8$b6bc1e80$68a6eb44@BlackDell> From: "Paul" To: References: <20060409040105.61424.qmail@web37911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: M-Audio Transit for sale Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:17:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 15:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi: If anyone has an interest, I have a brand new M-Audio Transit portable USB Recording Interface - 2 Input & 2 Output 24-Bit/96kHz.. This device would be great for a laptop. Please e-mail off list if interested. These units cost about $79.00 new. Marketing stuff: small enough to fit in your pocket, Transit brings hi-resolution 24-bit/96kHz recording and playback to any USB-compatible computer. Digital I/O lets you transfer pristine audio between your computer and other devices such as MiniDisc and DAT. The digital output can deliver AC-3 and DTS from your computer to an external decoder such as a surround receiver. And the bus-powered design allows you play and record virtually anywhere your laptop can go. Any reasonable offer accepted. Shipping won't be much as this device doesn't weigh a whole lot. Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 18:06:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50CC03BEDB; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l3KLfncI5Kc6glg0MyAfLMp3ijPjVC9uHuGKjXoiMeHAZJ3VHY6aOZt5PQ7BAaSKZDDtp+c+P3JPoohNKlOUPwjzniyGLeDK5/NW+PAHuIJzpIVdcfk1e6aKVQ+xjSIoA36fmaVFn09k+lZS8a+jqjzgVBJ4BMX2wUXMbsanEnc= Message-ID: <913728d60604091106v1648061ob1dbfd76119047e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:06:14 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam In-Reply-To: <443789D5.2090206@rhein-zeitung.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4436F9B2.7010708@rhein-zeitung.de> <20060408042819.14261.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913728d60604072229h3d7e73b4n52d377cce6daf6d3@mail.gmail.com> <443789D5.2090206@rhein-zeitung.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:06:16 +0000 (UTC) well, i had my first ninjam last nite. It was very fun! I do see the problem with midi syncing, i was playing around with my electrix MoFX, which has that global tap-tempo, but i still couldn't get it perfect...i was talking to one guy there who was able to sync things through Jack, but i don't have Jack, so i was getting out of sync with everybody else...either way, we started off with an ambient jam, so we all turned off the metronome and just went... I really think we should setup a time where a whole bunch of loopers here go on, so we can all play...it was really fun! Charlie On 4/8/06, Dirk Wilbert wrote: > I could go there on Tuesday - but you sound as if you'd like to try > earlier... > Dirk > > I have it for OSX, i'd love to give it a try if anyone wants to set a t= ime :) > > > > Charlie > > > > On 4/7/06, mark sottilaro wrote: > > > >> This is very very interesting to me. When I heard > >> about it from my friend a few months ago, I wrote it > >> down but totally forgot about it. Has anyone tried it > >> using the OS X client? Maybe when I get my > >> Looperlatve talking to my midi controller I'll wander > >> over. Is there a way to choose your jam mates? I > >> think it would be interesting if we could form a > >> ninjam "group" for loopers. > >> > >> --- Dirk Wilbert wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Just 'coming back' from a two-hour-jam with someone > >>> in Canada (I'm > >>> located in Germany). > >>> I'm very enthusiastic about this. It worked very > >>> well with the "normal" > >>> Windows Client - will try the WASABI-Version this > >>> weekend. > >>> > >>> Dirk > >>> > >>> > >>>> FWIW - it looks like there is a version of the > >>>> > >>> Ninjam client that can > >>> > >>>> send out MIDI clock based on the Ninjam BPM. It's > >>>> > >>> on the download > >>> > >>>> page at the bottom - the Wasabi version of the > >>>> > >>> Windows client. I > >>> > >>>> haven't actually tried it yet, but I saw a > >>>> > >>> reference to this fact in > >>> > >>>> the Developer's forum. I downloaded it and ran > >>>> > >>> it, and it does indeed > >>> > >>>> have a MIDI Clock Master check box and start/stop > >>>> > >>> buttons. Having no > >>> > >>>> experience with Ninjam, I can only guess that this > >>>> > >>> means it can send > >>> > >>>> the Ninjam clock out as MIDI clock. > >>>> > >>>> Hopefully that's useful for giving me a master > >>>> > >>> MIDI clock that is in > >>> > >>>> time with the Ninjam clock. Makes rhythmic > >>>> > >>> looping possible > >>> > >>>> (possibly?!) :) > >>>> > >>>> I'll explore a little more this weekend, including > >>>> > >>> seeing if I can get > >>> > >>>> Ninjam server to run on my server at Bluehost.com. > >>>> I'll let you know what I discover, Kris. > >>>> > >>>> D > >>>> > >>>> Krispen Hartung wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> What package are you using? Can you point to it? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. > >>>>>> > >>> it is a server I > >>> > >>>>>> lease from > >>>>>> ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab > >>>>>> > >>> between 2 location in > >>> > >>>>>> california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you > >>>>>> > >>> had a problem > >>> > >>>>>> running both the > >>>>>> shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the > >>>>>> > >>> same machine? > >>> > >>>>>> peace > >>>>>> -cpr > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Quoting Krispen Hartung : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I had no luck getting it to run using the > >>>>>>> > >>> Shoutcast server....never > >>> > >>>>>>> figured > >>>>>>> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run > >>>>>>> > >>> the Ninjam > >>> > >>>>>>> software, PLEASE > >>>>>>> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it > >>>>>>> > >>> is so nice to not > >>> > >>>>>>> have to use > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> two separate servers and streaming software to > >>>>>>> > >>> have a duo > >>> > >>>>>>> collaboration > >>>>>>> performance....it's very complicated and > >>>>>>> > >>> required me to use two > >>> > >>>>>>> laptops. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything > >>>>>>> > >>> non-rhythmic, which is > >>> > >>>>>>> how I > >>>>>>> perform half the time anyway. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Kris > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam > >>>>>>>> > >>> forums - interested in > >>> > >>>>>>> hearing > if > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your > >>>>>>>> > >>> hosted server. > >>> > >>>>>>>> Also, have you had any luck with synch > >>>>>>>> > >>> issues? It seems like > >>> > >>>>>>> Ninjam > forces > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM > >>>>>>>> > >>> being translated to > >>> > >>>>>>> a > MIDI > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> clock or similar it seems like your loops > >>>>>>>> > >>> would eventually fall > >>> > >>>>>>> out of > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just > >>>>>>>> > >>> working with very ambient > >>> > >>>>>>>> pieces > >>>>>>>> and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM > >>>>>>>> > >>> with my looping via > >>> > >>>>>>> MIDI > clock > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> :( > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Anyone? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Krispen Hartung wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> You install the software and then you go to > >>>>>>>>> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - > >>>>>>>>> > >>> pick a server and plug > >>> > >>>>>>> in >> the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> data into the Ninjam software you > >>>>>>>>> > >>> installed...then wait for the > >>> > >>>>>>> people >> to > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> flock to you like moths to a flame. > >>>>>>>>> Kris > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>> *From:* romain sido > >>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* about ninjam > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> hi > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> im a guitar player and i heard about > >>>>>>>>> > >>> ninjam. Ive downloaded > >>> > >>>>>>> it but > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> i have no idea of how to use this > >>>>>>>>> > >>> software. Can you please help > >>> > >>>>>>>>> me, tell me how ninjam works. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> thanks, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> bye > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ** > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > >> > >>>>>>>>> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et > >>>>>>>>> > >>> recevez des e-mails depuis > >>> > >>>>>>>>> votre t=E9l=E9phone portable ! >> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet > >>>>>> > >>> Messaging Program. > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> . > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > . > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 18:43:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38B4D3BEDF; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAMXyOESIWCw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060409193530.02dd1eb0@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 19:40:46 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re:Re: Favorite VST Instruments? In-Reply-To: <20060408071019.563673BEEA@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060408071019.563673BEEA@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Kris says >>Mathons Chopitch (considered a mod effect? I didn't see pitch shifting below) I guess you could consider it a pitch shifter, a modulator, or a gate. ...or all 3 at once andy butler www.mathons.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 18:59:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2E9D3BEDA; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3BABF8DE-EFF2-4EEC-98B3-5B1F94B2D3E0@skeletonhome.com> References: <01aa01c659fb$e657b990$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <3BABF8DE-EFF2-4EEC-98B3-5B1F94B2D3E0@skeletonhome.com> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:51:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1067513310==_ma============" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:59:48 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1067513310==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 11:00 AM -0400 4/9/06, bruce tovsky wrote: >On Apr 9, 2006, at 1:43 AM, David Gans wrote: > >>Hey, I'm in Oakland. Where are these people hanging out and playing? >> > >i played a show in december at 21 grand, really nice warehouse-style >space with a good sound system. the music curator there, sarah lockhart, >has great taste - fred frith and other well known names have played there. >i did a show with kim cascone there and we had a great time, a cd will soon >be released of that show. i also recommend the luggage store gallery in >SF, matt davignon and friends put on some great shows there, and it's also >a fantastic place to perform. > >cheers > >bruce > Thanks, Bruce! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com --============_-1067513310==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: BAY AREA new music scene:
At 11:00 AM -0400 4/9/06, bruce tovsky wrote:
On Apr 9, 2006, at 1:43 AM, David Gans wrote:

Hey, I'm in Oakland.  Where are these people hanging out and playing?

i played a show in december at 21 grand, really nice warehouse-style
space with a good sound system. the music curator there, sarah lockhart,
has great taste - fred frith and other well known names have played there.
i did a show with kim cascone there and we had a great time, a cd will soon
be released of that show. i also recommend the luggage store gallery in
SF, matt davignon and friends put on some great shows there, and it's also
a fantastic place to perform.
cheers
bruce


Thanks, Bruce!



--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://playback.trufun.com
--============_-1067513310==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 20:20:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9F453BEE0; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1144606873.443950993dc21@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:21:13 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam References: <4436F9B2.7010708@rhein-zeitung.de> <20060408042819.14261.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913728d60604072229h3d7e73b4n52d377cce6daf6d3@mail.gmail.com> <443789D5.2090206@rhein-zeitung.de> <913728d60604091106v1648061ob1dbfd76119047e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <913728d60604091106v1648061ob1dbfd76119047e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 24.6.86.12 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:20:59 +0000 (UTC) We never use the metronome in ninjam... :) My friend Muruga said it best, "one, one, one, one, one, one, one..." lol... peace -cpr Quoting Charlie Milkey : > well, i had my first ninjam last nite. It was very fun! I do see the > problem with midi syncing, i was playing around with my electrix MoFX, > which has that global tap-tempo, but i still couldn't get it > perfect...i was talking to one guy there who was able to sync things > through Jack, but i don't have Jack, so i was getting out of sync with > everybody else...either way, we started off with an ambient jam, so we > all turned off the metronome and just went... > > I really think we should setup a time where a whole bunch of loopers > here go on, so we can all play...it was really fun! > > > Charlie > > On 4/8/06, Dirk Wilbert wrote: > > I could go there on Tuesday - but you sound as if you'd like to try > > earlier... > > Dirk > > > I have it for OSX, i'd love to give it a try if anyone wants to set a > time :) > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > > On 4/7/06, mark sottilaro wrote: > > > > > >> This is very very interesting to me. When I heard > > >> about it from my friend a few months ago, I wrote it > > >> down but totally forgot about it. Has anyone tried it > > >> using the OS X client? Maybe when I get my > > >> Looperlatve talking to my midi controller I'll wander > > >> over. Is there a way to choose your jam mates? I > > >> think it would be interesting if we could form a > > >> ninjam "group" for loopers. > > >> > > >> --- Dirk Wilbert wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> Just 'coming back' from a two-hour-jam with someone > > >>> in Canada (I'm > > >>> located in Germany). > > >>> I'm very enthusiastic about this. It worked very > > >>> well with the "normal" > > >>> Windows Client - will try the WASABI-Version this > > >>> weekend. > > >>> > > >>> Dirk > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> FWIW - it looks like there is a version of the > > >>>> > > >>> Ninjam client that can > > >>> > > >>>> send out MIDI clock based on the Ninjam BPM. It's > > >>>> > > >>> on the download > > >>> > > >>>> page at the bottom - the Wasabi version of the > > >>>> > > >>> Windows client. I > > >>> > > >>>> haven't actually tried it yet, but I saw a > > >>>> > > >>> reference to this fact in > > >>> > > >>>> the Developer's forum. I downloaded it and ran > > >>>> > > >>> it, and it does indeed > > >>> > > >>>> have a MIDI Clock Master check box and start/stop > > >>>> > > >>> buttons. Having no > > >>> > > >>>> experience with Ninjam, I can only guess that this > > >>>> > > >>> means it can send > > >>> > > >>>> the Ninjam clock out as MIDI clock. > > >>>> > > >>>> Hopefully that's useful for giving me a master > > >>>> > > >>> MIDI clock that is in > > >>> > > >>>> time with the Ninjam clock. Makes rhythmic > > >>>> > > >>> looping possible > > >>> > > >>>> (possibly?!) :) > > >>>> > > >>>> I'll explore a little more this weekend, including > > >>>> > > >>> seeing if I can get > > >>> > > >>>> Ninjam server to run on my server at Bluehost.com. > > >>>> I'll let you know what I discover, Kris. > > >>>> > > >>>> D > > >>>> > > >>>> Krispen Hartung wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> What package are you using? Can you point to it? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I have the NINJAM server running on my server.. > > >>>>>> > > >>> it is a server I > > >>> > > >>>>>> lease from > > >>>>>> ev1servers.net... We recently used to it collab > > >>>>>> > > >>> between 2 location in > > >>> > > >>>>>> california, and a third from ann arbor, MI... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> as for your shoutcast issues, are you saying you > > >>>>>> > > >>> had a problem > > >>> > > >>>>>> running both the > > >>>>>> shoutcast server and the ninjam server on the > > >>>>>> > > >>> same machine? > > >>> > > >>>>>> peace > > >>>>>> -cpr > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Quoting Krispen Hartung : > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I had no luck getting it to run using the > > >>>>>>> > > >>> Shoutcast server....never > > >>> > > >>>>>>> figured > > >>>>>>> out why. If anyone finds a server that will run > > >>>>>>> > > >>> the Ninjam > > >>> > > >>>>>>> software, PLEASE > > >>>>>>> let me know and I'll switch to it...because it > > >>>>>>> > > >>> is so nice to not > > >>> > > >>>>>>> have to use > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> two separate servers and streaming software to > > >>>>>>> > > >>> have a duo > > >>> > > >>>>>>> collaboration > > >>>>>>> performance....it's very complicated and > > >>>>>>> > > >>> required me to use two > > >>> > > >>>>>>> laptops. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I gave up on syncing. I just keep everything > > >>>>>>> > > >>> non-rhythmic, which is > > >>> > > >>>>>>> how I > > >>>>>>> perform half the time anyway. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Kris > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam > > >>>>>>>> > > >>> forums - interested in > > >>> > > >>>>>>> hearing > if > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your > > >>>>>>>> > > >>> hosted server. > > >>> > > >>>>>>>> Also, have you had any luck with synch > > >>>>>>>> > > >>> issues? It seems like > > >>> > > >>>>>>> Ninjam > forces > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> a BPM on you, and of course, without that BPM > > >>>>>>>> > > >>> being translated to > > >>> > > >>>>>>> a > MIDI > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> clock or similar it seems like your loops > > >>>>>>>> > > >>> would eventually fall > > >>> > > >>>>>>> out of > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just > > >>>>>>>> > > >>> working with very ambient > > >>> > > >>>>>>>> pieces > > >>>>>>>> and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM > > >>>>>>>> > > >>> with my looping via > > >>> > > >>>>>>> MIDI > clock > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> :( > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Anyone? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Krispen Hartung wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> You install the software and then you go to > > >>>>>>>>> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> pick a server and plug > > >>> > > >>>>>>> in >> the > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> data into the Ninjam software you > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> installed...then wait for the > > >>> > > >>>>>>> people >> to > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> flock to you like moths to a flame. > > >>>>>>>>> Kris > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>>>> *From:* romain sido > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>>>> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > > >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* about ninjam > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> hi > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> im a guitar player and i heard about > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> ninjam. Ive downloaded > > >>> > > >>>>>>> it but > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> i have no idea of how to use this > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> software. Can you please help > > >>> > > >>>>>>>>> me, tell me how ninjam works. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> thanks, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> bye > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ** > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> recevez des e-mails depuis > > >>> > > >>>>>>>>> votre téléphone portable ! >> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >>>>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet > > >>>>>> > > >>> Messaging Program. > > >>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> . > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> __________________________________________________ > > >> Do You Yahoo!? > > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 9 20:53:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDCD73BEDC; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <014e01c65c17$bab11b10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: BAY AREA new music scene Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:54:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <2hRTfC.A.FiG.mRXOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Bruce Tovsky recommended the 21 Grand and the Luggage Store series put on by Matt Davignon. I'd also recommend that anyone interested in new music in the bay area should go a and join the Bay Area Improvisers Network. Apparently, the person who runs this list (and please correct me if I"m wrong) is John Lee. He should be up for knighthood for making such a ridiculously great resource for the new music community. Here is an exhaustive list of places to listen to or book a new music show http://www.bayimproviser.com/venues.asp They also have a wonderful and constantly updated calendar as well. http://www.bayimproviser.com/calendar.asp Please consider joining the site and contributing some money to help them do what they do so well for no money at all. The show I just saw with messrs. Kaiser, Looney and our own Roberto Zorzi was a house concert at Scott Looney's home, but it was listed on the Bay Area Improvisers Network calendar. Also, for David who asked where everyone is in Oakland, that's the problem.............there are tons of people there but there isn't much of a scene, yet although , hopefully, the operative word there is YET. I agree with Bruce, though. 21 Grand is really great and I love the Luggage Store series (and have been blessed to play both of these venues several times). Zoe Keating and Aaron Ximm's place, 964 Natoma was phenomenal in San Francisco and I played several wonderful concerts there but the city made them shut down. Send me your email address David and I"ll let you know the next time I come up to perform if you are interested. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 01:58:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA6833BED5; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 01:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 18:58:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 01:58:07 +0000 (UTC) At 08:27 AM 4/6/2006, Warren wrote: >I don't know. Interest in new music events by the general public - in any >urban center - seems to have a lot to do with whether the sponsor has >promotion dollars and/or is well-known, and how theatrically-conceived the >event is. I've seen a fairly sizable auditorium filled for a new music >performances at Stanford, for instance - but the performance also featured >tribal drums and costumes and the posters were colorful and exciting. I'd >also characterize at least some of the Laurie Anderson tours as "new music", >and she was packing very large venues (by my standards). This is something that I've been thinking about for a while. As musicians we tend to think that only the music is important but I think that it's also important to entertain the audience. We live in a multimedia world and people usually want to get multimodal stimulation. So I think we all need to think about how we can get involved with other artists and how other artists can get involved with us. Look at Jamie Lidell's looping performance: http://www.jamielidell.com/video/rfh.html Video is good. Light shows are good. Professional dancers are good. DJs are also good. Actors in costume are good. Writers are good. Alcohol is also good. If we want a scene we have to give people a reason to leave their houses. I like what the rave scene folks do for this. I knew a guy who organized raves and he never called them raves, he called them parties. "Yeah we had a great party. DJ X, Y and Z and we had a couple of thousand people come.." But I think each of has to make a decision about why were doing what we're doing. If we want to be pure artists then we take one path. If we want to reach a lot of people maybe we take another path. I know which path I'm on. Mozart wrote music for folks who listened to it as background for eating, drinking and socializing. Beautiful music that I'm sure drew silence from people at its best moments. I've seen pictures from the 1700s where folks are listening to music a concert hall that's set up like a nightclub with tables, chairs and waiters serving tall glasses of hock. Mozart also wrote operas as giant multimodal musical extravaganzas that demanded audience attention just from all the excitement. It was Beethoven that insisted that everyone shut up, sit still and listen. Which is the better path? I don't know, but I think I choose Mozart. Cheers, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 04:09:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E53D3BED3; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060409210936.01bc1bc0@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:09:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: loop interview podcast In-Reply-To: <170ED987-B60D-4971-816D-EC0CC159DA9A@zoekeating.com> References: <170ED987-B60D-4971-816D-EC0CC159DA9A@zoekeating.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:09:33 +0000 (UTC) At 04:17 PM 4/4/2006, you wrote: >I recorded this little podcast interview in January after a show in >Detroit. The interview starts after a piece of music. I'm forwarding >it to the list it because I talk a little about gear issues and what >it's like to deal with them onstage in front of an audience! Here you >go... > >http://archive-b01.libsyn.com/podcasts/barhopsessions/ >bar_hop_sessions_show__2_-_with_your_host_Greater_Alexander.mp3? >lneeeMV1bHmTdmt%2BbXNtq2urlHOY Not there anymore, alas. Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 04:12:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C86F3BEDA; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060409211201.01c5e518@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:12:40 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: loop interview podcast In-Reply-To: <1b4301c658be$c84d2f90$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <170ED987-B60D-4971-816D-EC0CC159DA9A@zoekeating.com> <1b4301c658be$c84d2f90$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:12:16 +0000 (UTC) At 07:39 AM 4/5/2006, you wrote: >http://tinyurl.com/r43zo This worked. Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 04:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DA6F3BECC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: OT and the MYSPACE thang Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 23:22:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060409211201.01c5e518@TheNettles.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <_kTCAD.A.Q0G._zdOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Hello loopers! I'm officially on Myspace now but no looping music up yet. Some will be up after I get some sleep. http://www.myspace.com/michaelplishka please be my friend... It's all mutual of course. ~peace~ Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 05:51:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BEB83BED5; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 05:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" , Subject: the PiNG presents PHOLDE and Greg Lauzon Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 01:52:30 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000001c65c62$f5036a70$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 05:51:41 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG & Jon Spencer Present ROBERT RICH . LiVE . SATURDAY APRiL 29th 2006 . 8PM Holy Trinity Church . 10 Trinity Square, Toronto ON Canada (south of Dundas . west of Yonge . behind The Eaton Centre) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Robert Rich will perform a solo concert of instrumental electronic music, incorporating instruments such as flutes and lap steel guitar along with analog modular synthesizer, keyboards and computers. Rich will perform selections from among his many recordings, including his latest CD "Electric Ladder," woven together with improvisations and new material. Computer generated motion graphics by Daniel Colvin will accompany Rich's music, along with custom laser projections. The film by Daniel Colvin tells a non-linear, non-verbal story. Its series of shifting images conveys aspects of the evolution of complexity and consciousness within the narrative of cosmological history. Rich's music takes a parallel path through that narrative. Though not synchronized to the film, the music speaks a non-verbal poetry. Music and image combine to express a modern shamanic journey. Doors open @ 7.30PM . Performance @ 8PM . $20 Tickets will be available at this week's PiNG. More details and ticket info soon @ http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com and now back to the weekly PiNG news . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG . http://www.theambientping.com Tuesdays @ HACiENDA . 794 Bathurst Street at Bloor . Toronto (upstairs - directly across from the Bathurst subway station) Doors open at 9pm . 1st set at 9:30 . PayWhatYouCan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THiS Tuesday April 11th . PHOLDE and Greg Lauzon It's a night of heavy metal, PiNG style, as Alan Bloor returns as PHOLDE to bow, scrape, brush and caress his self created metal sound sculptures with other metal objects to produce atmospheric hauntingly spacious soundscapes. http://www.theambientping.com/pholde/home.html Next up will be Greg Lauzon's first live performance with his recently built Spring Dulcimer which is like a Hammered Dulcimer except that it uses springs instead of wire strings. Greg will also be using a pan drum and a Yang Chin (Chinese Hammered Dulcimer) and effects to compliment the Spring Dulcimer. The show will be an exploration of melodic ambient percussion. Some songs will be pre-written, others will be improvised within the East Indian Ragas. http://www.greglauzon.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Before Sets CD . Trances / Drones by Robert Rich For part II of our lead up to Robert's performance here in Toronto on April 29th, we feature this hypnotic recording originally released on cassette in 1983. Trances / Drones is refelective of the slowly evolving meditative side of Robert's work. Expanded upon and re-released as a double CD in 1994 . . . oh, oh double CD, I may be tempted to play both CDs at the same time for some added fun, some found beauty and some hauntingly beautiful discordant parts. http://www.robertrich.com Between Sets CD . Drifts by Ben Fleury-Steiner Tonight we feature Drifts, a highly recommended CD of EM and ambient soundscapes released in 2005 by Gears of Sand founder Ben Fleury-Steiner. Coincidentally this CD was mastered by Robert Rich. Read more about it here in rik's *ping things* CD review below, hear it Tuesday @ the PiNG and catch Ben and his GOS label mates when they play the PiNG on April 25th as part of the Gears of Sand mini tour. http://www.gearsofsand.net/bfsportal.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG Tuesday April 18th . Collapsible Frequency Flow (CFF) and Nightingale (Jesse Baird & Dafydd Hughes) Collapsible Frequency Flow (CFF) is an experimental sound project, exploring different textures of sound, warped LOW end drones, feedback and distant guitar tones. CFF is Darren Young and David Reeves. With the addition of Norm Meloche a few years ago, CFF has ventured into a more improvisational mind frame. CFF explores soundscapes and ray of emotions, melding nature, space, wind, percussion, strings, contact mics and effects. http://www.myspace.com/collapsiblefrequencyflowin On the flip side will be Nightingale. Dafydd Hughes (methuselah, the deborahs and paydirt) returns to the PiNG, this time with Jesse Baird as Nightingale to take a different spin at sonic exploration and experimentation by utilizing turntables and electronics as their sound shaping sources. http://www.sideshowmedia.ca . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . rik maclean's *ping things* CD Reviews Ben Fleury-Steiner . "Drifts" Ben Fleury-Steiner's release "Drifts" is a fantastic combination of dreamlike ambience paired with melodic phrases and repeated samples. While many electronic artists have a tendency to focus on one style, Fleury-Steiner is willing to take chances and pair different sound sources in a very successful and effective way. The mood is set with opener "Sundial" where percolating synths and a collection of looping patterns blend beautifully together. "Flicker" follows, a piece where analog pulses and pads give a sense of breathing and life, creating an organic feeling that immediately connects with the listener. "Descriptives" incorporates minimal percussive elements amidst a framework of flowing pads. It works to great effect, maintaining the floating calm of the ambient ideal, but again adding a human element to the track. Very nice. The four part "Dreams" suite follows, with the first segment "Somnium Scipionis" presenting a constantly shifting landscape of sounds and forms. Up next is "Veritable Splendor" with a lush and beautiful latticework of sweeping and floating sounds that dance around the soundfield, shifting around and through each other. "The Dust That Lies Between" follows a similar vein, adding short analog phrases that repeat throughout the course of the track. "Absens in Remota" completes the suite, a long form piece that incorporates thematic ideals from the earlier songs in the cycle and bringing them all together. It's very nice work, a lovely example of conceptual ambience. Track eight, "Cicada", uses higher pitched tones and backwards looping to distinguish itself from the previous tracks. It's nicely done, and while stylistically it differs from previous tracks on the disc, it still maintains a thematic consistency that works well. Track nine, "Tensile" features a buzzing lead line that plays overtop a low drone based background. "Heal" follows, a calm and meditative ambient track where tones weave and loop around each other. "Home" closes the disc with bubbling tones taking on a percussive role for a collection of samples and tones, creating a very interesting example of locational ambience. "Drifts" is a disc that captures the imagination and inspires the senses. It's a fantastic synthesis of sounds and styles, and a wonderful example of how differing sounds can be brought together to create something fresh and exciting. A wonderful piece of work! rik - ping things "Drifts" is onsale now at ping things! Visit http://www.pingthings.com/BENFLEURYSTEINER.htm Hear tracks from "Drifts" on ping things radio this week on Sunday and Wednesday nights from 9pm to 12am EST at http://www.live365.com/stations/marastorment Be sure to visit the AMBiENT PiNG on April 25th when Ben Fleury-Steiner will be performing as part of the Gears of Sand mini tour along with label mates Mikronesia, William Fields and Aidan Baker with PHOLDE! http://www.pingthings.com = ambient + electronic + chill things . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * Other Toronto area sonic/visual events of interest this week: * Thursday April 13th . Coexistence Series #6 A monthly series of duet collaborations, this month featuring: Vanda Cordier - vocals, Cheryl O - cello, Colin Anthony - piano 7:30pm . Tranzac Club * Thursdays April 13th . Double Wind Cello Trios Double Wind Cello Trios members are John Oswald - sax, Marvin Green - bass, Anne Bourne - cello, Tiina Kiik - accordion and David Prentice - violin 8:30PM . Edward Day Gallery . 952 Queen Street West * Friday, April 14th . Leftover Daylight Series in association with Arraymusic and AIMT i . fisher/ fraser/ martin/ neal/ shaw [colin fisher (tenor saxophone, guitar), nick fraser (drums), jean martin (drums), wes neal (bass), evan shaw (alto saxophone)] ii . fraser / fornetran / restivo [ken fornetran (alto sax), dave restivo (piano), nick fraser (drums)] iii . paul newman's open house [dave fish (drums), michael herring (bass), paul newman (tenor and soprano saxophones)] 9pm . ARRAYMUSIC Studio 60 Atlantic Ave., Ste 218 . $10/6 * May 1st - 31st . New Adventures In Sound Art Presents: Deep Wireless Festival. a month-long celebration of radio and transmission art, radio artists, sound artists and enthusiasts can experience performances, sound installations, new commissions, special radio broadcasts, a CD launch and conference. Conference Pass $150/130 (+$20 discount early bird registration) Early bird registration deadline is April 14th, day rates available. May 1st - 31st . The Drake Hotel (1150 Queen St W) & Ryerson University Student Campus Centre (55 Gould St) more info at http://www.deepwireless.ca . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a social sound/art event presenting live performances by Toronto's finest ambient, chillout, improv and experimental music artists plus performers from around the world, every Tuesday evening at HACiENDA . 794 Bathurst Street at Bloor. http://www.theambientping.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any friends who may be interested in live ambient, chillout and experimental music performances or to any of your appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 08:22:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A1273BED6; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: solid state recorders Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:21:54 +0200 Message-ID: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcZcd9N51R5oDiEeQVKjW+ExNNtOZw== Resent-Message-ID: <_qTOO.A.K4F.sWhOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:22:05 +0000 (UTC) my trusty old Sony DAT walkman is broken ... I'm thinking about getting one of these new flash-card driven solid state recorders ... can anyone recommend one? the Marantz looks best but has a out-of-reach price tag ... I'd like to be able to record concerts but also field recordings ... (can one also use them to temporarily store images from the digicam via usb? that would be very cool for vacation) michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 10:47:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 322E93BEDB; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAMbTOUSIVyw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060410113727.02828e70@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:43:44 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re:Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: <20060410055142.CB6F23BEE0@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060410055142.CB6F23BEE0@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:47:17 +0000 (UTC) >But I think each of has to make a decision about why were doing what >we're doing. If we want to be pure artists then we take one path. >If we want to reach a lot of people maybe we take another path. It seems we live in a society that values image over content. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 14:49:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 900D43BEE7; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Kz09hIMYAZg59avZVJUc9qZbvq4qZwcaBnNA92fegng4jJIr9wal05pyUiD6zpmu8oidm6Ls00F5Kc0d43ch4eIJ0fhKOAHKip4IYEZ3nC4wtLu7rM1qoOYGJVGjSCuGq8oIa+isS3+9vkipo+Rfv3J04GE2sF0HQzAiKq5YYog= ; Message-ID: <20060410144951.43151.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 07:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: digitech digidelay/loop trade thanks! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060408071019.8D0B93BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-850647539-1144680590=:43141" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:49:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-850647539-1144680590=:43141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit wanted to say that i got a new digitech digidelay on fri (sent back the boss dd20) am liking the digidelay, i find that i rarely use over 4 sec loops and have been enjoying the things it can do. mostly use the tape delay setting -which can give some fun weird quasi old echoplex like sounds (think old tommy bolin) and fun playing w/ the 4 sec of digital delay. must say that i had a used one of these a few yrs ago, and that one must have been broke b/c it didn' t do the sample and hold at 100% feedback. that is a most fun aspect to the little pedal. also wanted tosay thanks to the folks i traded cds w/: douglas baldwin luis angelo michael 'nemoguitar' klobuchar been most fun listening to the stuff they create loop wise (and inspiring)..... i've also been going through all my loop cds and will post something later when i have a moment.... s--- --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? 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wanted to say that i got a new digitech digidelay on fri (sent back the boss dd20)
am liking the digidelay, i find that i rarely use over 4 sec loops and have been enjoying the things it can do. mostly use the tape delay setting -which can give some fun weird quasi old echoplex like sounds (think old tommy bolin) and fun playing w/ the 4 sec of digital delay. must say that i had a used one of these a few yrs ago, and that one must have been broke b/c it didn' t do the sample and hold at 100% feedback. that is a most fun aspect to the little pedal.
 
also wanted tosay thanks to the folks i traded cds w/:
douglas baldwin
luis angelo
michael 'nemoguitar' klobuchar
 
been most fun listening to the stuff they create loop wise (and inspiring).....
 
i've also been going through all my loop cds and will post something later when i have a moment....
s---

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Messenger with Voice. --0-850647539-1144680590=:43141-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 15:10:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B34413BEEC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3nki@modaldub.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <3BABF8DE-EFF2-4EEC-98B3-5B1F94B2D3E0@skeletonhome.com> References: <01aa01c659fb$e657b990$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <3BABF8DE-EFF2-4EEC-98B3-5B1F94B2D3E0@skeletonhome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4EFE7683-6039-4F82-9491-08310D6435F9@modaldub.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:09:48 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - space.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - modaldub.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:10:04 +0000 (UTC) topics: SF is just too small, experimental music in Brazil & urban centers generally one problem with San Francisco i think is that it's just too small. really there are not many urban centers in the US, of substantial size. what, New York, Chicago, Boston mb? San Francisco is surrounded by essentially a giant suburban ring, although admittedly with the highest average income and educational levels in the US. if the Bay Area counts as a city, that might be enough people but geographically it's way too spread out. without decent public transportation it's hard to get a really urban scene going for a variety of things, including experimental music. true, there are good shows here and there, from UC Berkeley, to Oakland, san jose and santa cruz, even Big Sur, Stanford, Mills College (the Tape Music Center). there's a lot of history and great artists, just not much of a scene in terms of audience that actually attends events. how many people actually live in SF proper? maybe 700,000? compared to many major cities in the world that ain't much. i'm living now in Belo Horizonte, the third largest city in Brazil, i think about 7 million. i think Rio has 9 million, and Sao Paulo more than 20 million. and really only Sao Paulo has a substantial scene for experimental electronic music. granted, in the US the economics are different such that a smaller base population should suffice. but not That much smaller... and the essential problem of too suburban a geography remains. places like London, Berlin, Tokyo - they have good public transportation and a high population level in a small area. and they have the money to spend on these things... and the experience of living and working "in the machine", which i should think would pre-dispose one to appreciate electronic music. actually, on a somewhat different note, some early electro-acoustic musical experimentation was done in south america in the 1950s-1970s, which is generally quite under-reported it seems... there are several good websites about this topic which i can't seem to find atm ;) i did stumble on this one by Gordon Mumma which is interesting as he is an old professor of mine, and i had never read this or even spoken with him much about latin american electronic music - http:// www.brainwashed.com/mumma/latin.html ah here we go, found one: Ricardo Dal Farra Latin American Electroacoustic Music collection http://www.fondation-langlois.org/flash/e/stage.php?NumPage=542 how's that for rambling? ;) around the world in a single post... -3nki From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 15:34:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93DFA3BEEC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060410083315.01e06168@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:35:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re:Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060410113727.02828e70@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20060410055142.CB6F23BEE0@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060410113727.02828e70@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:34:48 +0000 (UTC) At 03:43 AM 4/10/2006, Andy wrote: >It seems we live in a society that values image over content. Hmm. What's the difference? Other than we like to think of "image" as shallow and "content" as deep? In a painting image is everything, I would think. Thoughtfully, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 15:36:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8228F3BEF8; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: <4EFE7683-6039-4F82-9491-08310D6435F9@modaldub.net> References: <01aa01c659fb$e657b990$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <3BABF8DE-EFF2-4EEC-98B3-5B1F94B2D3E0@skeletonhome.com> <4EFE7683-6039-4F82-9491-08310D6435F9@modaldub.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-1019946946 Message-Id: From: bruce tovsky Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:36:27 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:36:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-1019946946 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Apr 10, 2006, at 11:09 AM, 3nki wrote: > one problem with San Francisco i think is that it's just too small. well, being a lover of SF in general (and a NYC resident) i'd have to say that it's quality, not quantity that counts.... cheers bruce bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." Albert Einstein --Apple-Mail-6-1019946946 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Apr 10, 2006, = at 11:09 AM, 3nki wrote:

one problem with San = Francisco i think is that it's just too small.

=

well, being a lover of SF in general (and a = NYC resident) i'd have to
say that it's quality, not quantity = that counts....
cheers
bruce

bruce tovsky

www.skeletonhome.com


=

"The secret to creativity is = knowing how to hide your sources."

Albert Einstein


= --Apple-Mail-6-1019946946-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 15:41:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D55A73BEFC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <29204559.1144683704221.JavaMail.root@web26> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 8:41:36 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re:Re: Music Scene Cc: Kevin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:41:49 +0000 (UTC) I don't think Paul Klee had his belly button pierced nor had a cucumber stuffed into his underwear! -- Paul Richards ---- Kevin wrote: > At 03:43 AM 4/10/2006, Andy wrote: > >It seems we live in a society that values image over content. > > Hmm. What's the difference? Other than we like to think of "image" > as shallow and "content" as deep? In a painting image is everything, > I would think. > > Thoughtfully, > Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 15:58:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6ACD3BEDC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060410085823.01a8b2a0@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:59:06 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: Re:Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: <29204559.1144683704221.JavaMail.root@web26> References: <29204559.1144683704221.JavaMail.root@web26> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:58:38 +0000 (UTC) At 08:41 AM 4/10/2006, you wrote: >I don't think Paul Klee had his belly button pierced nor had a >cucumber stuffed into his underwear! Ah, but Picasso, there's a rock star for you! ;-) Cheers, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 16:14:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5B393BEF7; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2EB43DEB-88D2-4899-BE0C-ED51BBD733F7@ianhenderson.co.za> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ian Henderson Subject: Re: solid state recorders Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:14:16 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:14:20 +0000 (UTC) On 10 Apr 2006, at 10:21, Michael Peters wrote: > my trusty old Sony DAT walkman is broken ... I'm thinking about > getting one > of these new flash-card driven solid state recorders ... can anyone > recommend one? the Marantz looks best but has a out-of-reach price > tag ... > I'd like to be able to record concerts but also field recordings ... I just ordered a Marantz 660 (my old Minidisk broke) - they're about $499... you can find marginally cheaper ones (Edirol etc) but the spec is nowhere near as professional. The 660 is the little handheld one, but it's got full XLR input with phantom power and will record 16bit WAV - should be adequate for my needs. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 17:23:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAD103BEDF; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1236.128.193.37.212.1144689778.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060410085823.01a8b2a0@TheNettles.com> References: <29204559.1144683704221.JavaMail.root@web26> <7.0.0.16.0.20060410085823.01a8b2a0@TheNettles.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Music Scene From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Regarding the difference between image and content, it seems to me to really be a question of art and performance. Art is when I create music in my studio. In private. Performance is when I ask strangers to approve of my art. In public. Whether I make it easy or difficult for strangers to approve of my music is both a personal decision and is also a property of the music that I've created. It's difficult for me to make an absolute distinction between image and content, art and performance. Picasso is popular, Bracque is not. Which one made the greater contribution to Cubism? I can't say. A related issue is the tension between Art and Ego. If my music was all about Art, I wouldn't feel the need to present it. Just creating it would be enough. Because I have Ego invested in my Art I want to present it. If it was all about Ego, I would construct some schlock that would appeal to the lowest common denominator. But people aren't stupid. Entirely Ego-driven music doesn't usually sell. So music is a creative tension between Art and Ego. How much Art and how much Ego? I can't really make an absolute judgment about that, only a personal judgment. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 18:06:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05C4F3BEDC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=b5TY1LdgnZAQKNmZpVtBqq0EjIf976Vi0c2S47lxb0gBTIUzWH8jDQ+Dzy53ai6O; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <21370980.1144692405980.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:06:45 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: mungenast@earthlink.net Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da940933487c59a9229a33eecf4fe509d46ee350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.53 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs?
A nice, cheap DOD Bi-FET pedal into a Y cord. Or try it without the buffer preamp... sometimes a signal can survive being split without help.
~Tim Mungenast


-----Original Message-----
From: David Gans
Sent: Apr 9, 2006 1:47 AM
To: rcw@midwickhill.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs?

At 3:32 AM -0800 12/30/05, Rickmond C. Wong wrote:
another general question for all the wise ones on this
board ^^. what's the best way to split your guitar
signal into two EDPs? do you just use a Y patch cord
without much signal degradation? or do you put some
sort of DI or splitter box in front?

I'm in the market for just such a thing myself.

http://www.axess-electronics.com/_p_bs2.htm


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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 18:09:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E33343BEEC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=i6JNw8BfiMQNTUHGUVl0PoiVWqkdgU2j3sMR9WRO/xjj76hrpGiriLJRlHA40cVm; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <631888.1144692568017.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:09:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: mungenast@earthlink.net Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: M-Audio exp pedals Re: M-Audio Transit for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da940f23f5e631fdda465e8bf7898bf442c9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.53 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:09:29 +0000 (UTC) speaking of M-Audio stuff, do any of you notice your M-Audio expression pedals flopping downward instead of staying up? Do they all do that, or do I have to send mine back to Musician's Phrend? ...maybe if I give the poor pedals a Viagara patch? ~Tim Mungenast -----Original Message----- >From: Paul >Sent: Apr 9, 2006 11:17 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: M-Audio Transit for sale > >Hi: > >If anyone has an interest, I have a brand new M-Audio Transit portable USB >Recording Interface - 2 Input & 2 Output 24-Bit/96kHz.. This device would be >great for a laptop. Please e-mail off list if interested. These units cost >about $79.00 new. > >Marketing stuff: small enough to fit in your pocket, Transit brings >hi-resolution 24-bit/96kHz recording and playback to any USB-compatible >computer. Digital I/O lets you transfer pristine audio between your computer >and other devices such as MiniDisc and DAT. The digital output can deliver >AC-3 and DTS from your computer to an external decoder such as a surround >receiver. And the bus-powered design allows you play and record virtually >anywhere your laptop can go. > >Any reasonable offer accepted. Shipping won't be much as this device doesn't >weigh a whole lot. > >Regards, Paul > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 18:25:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF98D3BEF1; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <21370980.1144692405980.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <21370980.1144692405980.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:19:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:25:14 +0000 (UTC) At 2:06 PM -0400 4/10/06, mungenast@earthlink.net wrote: >A nice, cheap DOD Bi-FET pedal into a Y cord. Or try it without the >buffer preamp... sometimes a signal can survive being split without >help. I think I'll be better off w/ a buffered device, given the amount of crap I'm shoving my signal through. Now I'm thinking I'd like an A/B switch, rather than a splitter. Maybe a line driver followed by a passive A/B switch? Here's what I have in mind: I've gotten into a new practice of creating a sort of "cloud" loop with swelling sounds of an arbitrary duration, using the RC-20XL. I'd like to be able to get that going, then switch over to the EDP for an independent loop structure that will float above the cloud. So I need to address each looper separately, then combine their signals later. I have the other end figured out, but how to split the signal properly is my new question. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 18:30:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55C073BF04; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=X0Tp77jUCXbPKgtgSVNpsbPzJSEd45UjZgmpeLquaPnHnx6I4tLNqeAKmAPYCwSjrZd/5KyTQNGUqKRujttZsauq7U+efC7hBlwzEeK1sW9xBkYf5bPbKl/oDiCk7gysA/6N8AI3OU43owugZqXsmf9h95PWRsWOuZZPt8reaUs= Message-ID: <26ba8d120604101130j7994a2cbr263e9ae66763aa1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:30:28 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: message from Tuba Looper Tom Heasley In-Reply-To: <17c29300b128031317b6ee07fd46215c@venetowest.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <17c29300b128031317b6ee07fd46215c@venetowest.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:30:31 +0000 (UTC) I was just listening to Desert Triptych last night ... highly recommended. On 4/7/06, Ronan Chris Murphy wrote: > My Pal, Tuba Looper Tom Heasley, is having trouble with his email > program and the LD list so he asked me to post this for him. > _____________________ > I noticed the tuba looping thread and several mentions of my work > recently (thanks guys). I'd like to extend a special offer to anyone > who is on the list to purchase my cds for $10 each, including shipping > in the US. And for anyone who may wish to buy the complete set > (including my third cd, Desert Triptych which features didjeridu > instead of tuba), I'll send all three for $25, postage paid. > International customers add $2 per disc for shipping, or $30 for all > three titles. Money may be sent to me via PayPal with a note as to > what you want, or checks may be sent to: Tom Heasley, 9663 Santa > Monica Bl., Suite 125, Beverly Hills, CA 90210. And if anyone is > really in dire financial straights, but would love to have the music, > write me and we can work out a special price. > Tom Heasley > > www.tomheasley.com > > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 18:35:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7085F3BEDA; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1236.128.193.37.212.1144689778.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <29204559.1144683704221.JavaMail.root@web26> <7.0.0.16.0.20060410085823.01a8b2a0@TheNettles.com> <1236.128.193.37.212.1144689778.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:32:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Music Scene Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:35:37 +0000 (UTC) At 10:22 AM -0700 4/10/06, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: >Art is when I create music in my studio. In private. Performance is when I >ask strangers to approve of my art. In public. Hm. I think of performance as a communicative process. To me, art is an expression of some combination of conscious and subconscious ideas and emotions. When I get onstage, I'm not asking for approval, I'm trying to say something to the people I'm playing for. Some of what Imn saying is verbal, and some is abstract. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 18:45:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92D1B3BF08; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <014e01c65c17$bab11b10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <014e01c65c17$bab11b10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:36:12 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:45:21 +0000 (UTC) At 1:54 PM -0700 4/9/06, loop.pool wrote: >Also, for David who asked where everyone is in Oakland, that's the >problem.............there are tons of people >there but there isn't much of a scene, yet although , hopefully, the >operative word there is YET. > >I agree with Bruce, though. 21 Grand is really great and I love >the Luggage Store series (and have been blessed to >play both of these venues several times). Zoe Keating and Aaron >Ximm's place, 964 Natoma was phenomenal in San Francisco and I played >several wonderful concerts there but the city made them shut down. > >Send me your email address David and I"ll let you know the next time >I come up to perform if you are interested. Thanks, Rick! I'm always a little cautious about joining "improvisers" networks or "new music" groups, since much of what I do is pretty conventional. I use looping a lot in my performance, and I do create new music live in every show, but I also do a lot of straightforward Americana-type songs. I think of myself as a little too weird for the singer-songwriter scene, and a little too conventional (accessible?) for the improv world. I had a nasty and humiliating experience in Berkeley a few years ago when Henry Kaiser and John Oswald invited me to participate in a noise-type event. my guitar playing was way too pretty and conventional for the context, and I wound up feeling kinda stupid by the time it was over. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 18:46:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9E563BF06; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=OoiD8ew8cHsw6czKvD7pIWwUFcta5PoyKGTmYojQWqI0tPZqv3QEwqr2cUGnlIZTnedyIvFypaQJK5ZnXMFFGqP8yRAjb6MvDtAl2Y9TvSDwzUN8d9YLys4MIH7wwuwvGx8aPAvHFmnCe0iM4Z9FChfCrUXX9wZ+5eF6S9cxq8A= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: References: <29204559.1144683704221.JavaMail.root@web26> <7.0.0.16.0.20060410085823.01a8b2a0@TheNettles.com> <1236.128.193.37.212.1144689778.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Music Scene Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:46:00 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:46:04 +0000 (UTC) > At 10:22 AM -0700 4/10/06, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: >> Art is when I create music in my studio. In private. Performance >> is when I >> ask strangers to approve of my art. In public. > On 10 apr 2006, at 20.32, David Gans wrote: > Hm. I think of performance as a communicative process. To me, art > is an expression of some combination of conscious and subconscious > ideas and emotions. When I get onstage, I'm not asking for > approval, I'm trying to say something to the people I'm playing > for. Some of what Imn saying is verbal, and some is abstract. That's my view as well. And I think it is important to remember that many things usually called "art" are actually not being released until well in the eye of the beholder. So you, as being the creator, is one of the individuals least expected to understand the true artistic values of your work, at least not right away. So, in that sense I guess I have a rather different view compared to Kevin's. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 19:25:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53A743BEDB; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:23:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: solid state recorders Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:25:30 +0000 (UTC) At 10:21 AM +0200 4/10/06, Michael Peters wrote: >my trusty old Sony DAT walkman is broken ... I'm thinking about getting one >of these new flash-card driven solid state recorders ... can anyone >recommend one? the Marantz looks best but has a out-of-reach price tag ... >I'd like to be able to record concerts but also field recordings ... (can >one also use them to temporarily store images from the digicam via usb? that >would be very cool for vacation) I have been pretty happy with my M-Audio Microtrack. They've got some more work to do on it, but they're improving it constantly. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 19:33:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B43723BEE2; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4116.128.193.37.212.1144697578.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <29204559.1144683704221.JavaMail.root@web26> <7.0.0.16.0.20060410085823.01a8b2a0@TheNettles.com> <1236.128.193.37.212.1144689778.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Music Scene From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <5n-m2.A.FDF.sLrOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:33:00 +0000 (UTC) > At 10:22 AM -0700 4/10/06, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: >>Art is when I create music in my studio. In private. Performance is when I >>ask strangers to approve of my art. In public. > > Hm. I think of performance as a communicative process. To me, art > is an expression of some combination of conscious and subconscious > ideas and emotions. When I get onstage, I'm not asking for approval, > I'm trying to say something to the people I'm playing for. Some of > what Imn saying is verbal, and some is abstract. Thank you, I think I may have used the wrong word there. In what I wrote previously substitute "attention" for "approval". Would you agree with the statement: "Art is when I create music in my studio. In private. Performance is when I ask strangers to pay attention to my art. In public." I think even with the change my original point is still valid. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 19:44:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 482FC3BEF1; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: cburke55@comcast.net (Christophe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs? Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:44:31 +0000 Message-Id: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: Y2J1cmtlNTVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:44:35 +0000 (UTC) > Here's what I have in mind: I've gotten into a new practice of > creating a sort of "cloud" loop with swelling sounds of an arbitrary > duration, using the RC-20XL. I'd like to be able to get that going, > then switch over to the EDP for an independent loop structure that > will float above the cloud. So I need to address each looper > separately, then combine their signals later. I have the other end > figured out, but how to split the signal properly is my new question. You might look into a Boss LS-2 Line Splitter. It can be set up for two seperate (line) loops each with a volume control that can be engaged or bypassed in pretty much any combination. Among other possible setups! Very useful device and not expensive. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 19:57:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC19A3BED9; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZpZ5NkzMiyynCkEavi6MwjhKMLT7KBaY8zhpIlIy46st/Ph9GrGpAqnD/uDGEzjn61yqaBY0sZZMemHQDHfv0KS3okj3oxDR55wD+uqOEF2sVvGlDDVr+aIaSoYwmmVj95IygP+JvREsWnUVViifCy3TWXoW8CjXyft7iwStAEc= Message-ID: <588ce11d0604101257t3fb34ed0je6b5a39b5eb9ef43@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:57:07 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders In-Reply-To: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:57:09 +0000 (UTC) No personal experience, but Electronic Musician had a good comparison of six tapeless recorders: http://emusician.com/daw/emusic_playing_field/ Interestingly, the Marantz recorders had some distortion problems. Unfortunately, the article was written before the MicroTrack came out. -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://artsimon.iuma.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 20:00:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 356B63BEF3; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@com cast.net> References: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@com cast.net> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:58:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <592ad.A.sRG.PlrOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:00:16 +0000 (UTC) At 7:44 PM +0000 4/10/06, Christophe wrote: >You might look into a Boss LS-2 Line Splitter. It can be set up for >two seperate (line) loops each with a volume control that can be >engaged or bypassed in pretty much any combination. Among other >possible setups! Very useful device and not expensive. Thanks - I'll check it out right now. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 20:03:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 867B33BEFB; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAA5XOkSIWCw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060410193541.02cc4760@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:59:40 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Re:Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: <20060410182515.66A763BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060410182515.66A763BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:03:39 +0000 (UTC) >>It seems we live in a society that values image over content. > >Hmm. What's the difference? you know very well ;-) >Other than we like to think of "image" as shallow and "content" as deep? the ability to identify a facade > In a painting image is everything, I would think. Yes, that's what I'd think, but notice that in our culture the status of the artist, the public image rather than the visual image, is used as a measure of the value of a work of art. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 20:11:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F26D73BF0A; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1257.128.193.37.212.1144699859.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060410193541.02cc4760@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20060410182515.66A763BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060410193541.02cc4760@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Re:Re: Music Scene From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <9woU_.A.kuG.UvrOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:11:00 +0000 (UTC) >>>It seems we live in a society that values image over content. >>Hmm. What's the difference? > you know very well ;-) You have more confidence in my discriminative abilities than I do, I'm afraid. I look on music as one of the performance arts. If I think of "content" as the value of music and "image" as its presentation then I have trouble drawing a sharp line between image and content. Or even any line at all. More like a shading, I think. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 20:29:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B9EE3BEE4; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1801.128.193.37.212.1144700985.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <014e01c65c17$bab11b10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <8JeXbB.A.mmH.7AsOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:29:47 +0000 (UTC) > I had a nasty and humiliating experience in Berkeley a few years ago > when Henry Kaiser and John Oswald invited me to participate in a > noise-type event. my guitar playing was way too pretty and > conventional for the context, and I wound up feeling kinda stupid by > the time it was over. Sounds like you got the attention but not the approval. ;-) Don't worry about it. That scene didn't work out. Try another scene. If that scene doesn't work out and the one after that, then maybe that whole scene isn't for you. Time to try a way different scene. When I was learning my chops, my motto used to be that any jam I didn't get asked to leave was a success. Sounds like you have the chops just not the scene where they're welcome. Nobody can put you down without your permission. Cultivate a serene smile--if nothing else, it will utterly mystify your enemies. :-) Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 21:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B3373BEDF; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2366.128.193.37.212.1144703472.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060410193541.02cc4760@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20060410182515.66A763BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060410193541.02cc4760@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Re:Re: Music Scene From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:11:14 +0000 (UTC) > Yes, that's what I'd think, but notice that in our culture the status > of the artist, the public image rather than the visual image, is used > as a measure of the value of a work of art. When I'm deciding whether or not to go to a movie, the first thing I look at is the director. Is that image or content? Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 21:32:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6805C3BEDC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SB5NQYZqe6OTWjGn+xBItMEffFZhIbBxjnC2F80uaIbQZl4OC2+TJ5vDUcaWBeU4vw8TcaJAl8Ewh9TJvpJ5ephEwLtdwwmVeEknT4EQzO0qbRc15Fz2xHqBKsfeyn71qOM1Sh9EeJgXSOEFYQjr2A8boejWu0LOiLzmmH3MUbM= Message-ID: <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:32:15 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: <2MwS8.A.t_B.h7sOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:32:17 +0000 (UTC) I rather like the M-audio too, though I agree that there are problems. There was no other choice for me as I need coax digital. I hear that there's a new Edirol coming out that's much smaller and has different I/O...? On 4/10/06, David Gans wrote: > At 10:21 AM +0200 4/10/06, Michael Peters wrote: > >my trusty old Sony DAT walkman is broken ... I'm thinking about getting = one > >of these new flash-card driven solid state recorders ... can anyone > >recommend one? the Marantz looks best but has a out-of-reach price tag = ... > >I'd like to be able to record concerts but also field recordings ... (c= an > >one also use them to temporarily store images from the digicam via usb? = that > >would be very cool for vacation) > > I have been pretty happy with my M-Audio Microtrack. They've got > some more work to do on it, but they're improving it constantly. > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 22:07:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4546D3BEDC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:07:30 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Yes; I'm waiting for the R-09 as it is much smaller than the R-1 and has built-in microphones. The sound-demos of the R-1 that are available on Edirol's website made me believer they're doing a good job. I hope the quality of the R-09 microphones is similar to that of the R-1. Dirk > I rather like the M-audio too, though I agree that there are problems. > There was no other choice for me as I need coax digital. > > I hear that there's a new Edirol coming out that's much smaller and > has different I/O...? > > On 4/10/06, David Gans wrote: > >> At 10:21 AM +0200 4/10/06, Michael Peters wrote: >> >>> my trusty old Sony DAT walkman is broken ... I'm thinking about getting one >>> of these new flash-card driven solid state recorders ... can anyone >>> recommend one? the Marantz looks best but has a out-of-reach price tag ... >>> I'd like to be able to record concerts but also field recordings ... (can >>> one also use them to temporarily store images from the digicam via usb? that >>> would be very cool for vacation) >>> >> I have been pretty happy with my M-Audio Microtrack. They've got >> some more work to do on it, but they're improving it constantly. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >> Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 >> Blog: http://playback.trufun.com >> >> >> > > > -- > /t > > http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar > http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... > http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) > > > . > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 22:26:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0BCE3BEE1; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443ADB9D.9030507@midsouth.rr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:26:37 -0500 From: Tardy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: TC 0144 foot-controller for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Hello all. I'm letting go of my TC 0144 foot-controller for the 2290 delay. Anyone who has any questions about what this unit is or what it does, feel free to email me. However I think most here are familiar with it. This unit was purchased from a gigging musician about 6 years ago, and has lived in my home ever since. It has seen some road use from its previous owner, and as a result has quite a few chips and scratches. However, it is in perfect working order. All LED's, jacks, and footswitches function perfectly. You can view small pic here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Tardy/0144.jpg However, I have a really large, high-resolution version of the same pic that I can email. Just email me and I can send it to you. I'm asking $180 + $10 shipping. I can ship anywhere within the continental U.S. Feel free to ask me any questions. Thanks for any interest. Tardy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 22:27:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2731C3BEE0; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443ADBB6.3000807@midsouth.rr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:27:02 -0500 From: Tardy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Yamaha UD-Stomp for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Hello all. I'm letting go of my Yamaha UD-Stomp delay unit. This unit was purchased new two years ago, and in perfect, mint condition. It is literally in the exact same condition it was the day it came out of the box. There is not so much as a fleck of dust on it, and I have never had an issue with it. It has never been gigged with, and it has never left my home. I have used it maybe 10-12 times at the most in the entire time I have owned it. It has seen VERY little use. The manual, patch-list, and AC-adapter are of course included. And I'll throw in a two-foot patch cable as well for expression pedal connection. You can view a couple of small pics here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Tardy/UDStomp1.jpg and http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Tardy/UDStomp2.jpg I have super high-resolution versions of the same pics that I can email as well. Just email me and I'll send them to you. I'm asking $400, which will include shipping. U.S. only please. I can ship to any state within the continental U.S. Feel free to ask me any questions, and thanks for any interest. Tardy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 22:46:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A457F3BEF5; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Adrian West" To: "Dirk Wilbert" Cc: Subject: RE: rc 50 no batteries or feedback Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:46:41 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4438385A.4030301@rhein-zeitung.de> X-ELNK-Trace: 5cae5941d33b27681aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79421b6562c213c88b8c3f8504852361ff350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.123.73.34 Resent-Message-ID: <6oFGqB.A.L1E.dBuOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Dirk, I have a question about the RC-50 you might be able to answer. When you = use the 3 loops for "sequential" looping (i.e. verse, chorus, bridge) = can you cue loop 2 to start seamlessly after loop 1 ends or do you have = to hit the pedal at just the right moment to transition from loop 1 to = loop 2? Adrian West www.adrianwest.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Dirk Wilbert [mailto:dwilbert@rhein-zeitung.de] > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:26 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback >=20 >=20 > I tested the RC50 at "Musikmesse" Frankfurt for about half an hour - = the=20 > unit was a bit buggy but I think Boss/Roland won't ship RC50s with=20 > errors. As I'm new to the "loop topic" I read a lot the last few=20 > weeks.... most on loopers-delight. I had Electro Harmonix 2880, Boss=20 > RC50, Digitech Jamman Looper and Electrix Repeater in focus. > I think it's gonna be the the RC50 - it just felt "right" for me when = I=20 > tested it and the features (stereo / easy interface / 3 loops with own = > foot pedals) are just what I wanted. > The Electro Harmonix 2880 doesn't feature undo in any way, does it? > Repeater would have been great (looking at the features) but is the=20 > company Electrix still alive? A Repeater Mk 2 would be very = intersting... > I did a short test of Digitech Jamman Looper, too but somehow had=20 > difficulties to get along with it - although it first seemed to be = very=20 > easy to use; maybe I should check it again ... > All those units I mentioned don't feature feedback, am I right? >=20 > Dirk > > My RC-50 is supposed to in Today from Sweetwater and be here=20 > Mid next week > > via Fedex....I would call Sweetwater as I think they are one of=20 > the first to > > be getting the RC-50...I had one on order from Musiciansbuy.com and = they > > emailed and said to due to a manufacturer backorder they=20 > wouldn't be getting > > the units until June!!!...I knew they had been put on the backburner = by > > Roland so they could send units to the higher volume dealers so=20 > I cancelled > > my order looked around and Sweetwater accomodated. > > > > As far as the unit having no feeback control, I can see that=20 > being an issue > > for ambient loop artists and others but not for the kind of=20 > thing I want to > > do with the unit. And Batteries...It's rare for a piece of gear=20 > that complex > > to be able to run on batteries and i'm not sure it would benefit a = wide > > enough sector of users. I Think the RC-50 has great promise for=20 > some of us. > > > > Sean Mormelo > > www.seanmormelo.com > > www.myspace.com/seanmormelo > > EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo > > www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > From: > > To: > > Cc: "daniel stevenson" > > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:30 PM > > Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback > > > > > > =20 > >> I just ordered mine from AMS and am anxiously awaiting the 5-6-06 = ship > >> =20 > > date. This may be a good intermediary device between the EDP=20 > and lower-end > > loopers. > > =20 > >> I also ordered another new device: the Roland HPD-10 cheap-o=20 > Handsonic. I > >> =20 > > had the big brother and really liked it. I hope this one isn't a > > pig-in-the-poke. > > =20 > >> -- > >> Paul Richards > >> > >> ---- daniel stevenson wrote: > >> =20 > >>> im taking boss customer supports word on this.but that > >>> huge box has no room for batteries#$%#*(%%$...seemed > >>> confused about the subject of feedback control but > >>> said the loops stayed infinite....bummer > >>> will someone please invent wireless power supply or > >>> night-time solar power...? > >>> scary Illuminati > >>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >>> http://mail.yahoo.com > >>> > >>> =20 > >> > >> =20 > > > > . > > > > =20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 23:07:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 379413BEEA; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003f01c65cf3$9724af90$68a6eb44@BlackDell> From: "Paul" To: References: <170ED987-B60D-4971-816D-EC0CC159DA9A@zoekeating.com> <1b4301c658be$c84d2f90$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409211201.01c5e518@TheNettles.com> Subject: Boss RC-50 Manual Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:07:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <0U8EKC.A.siF.HVuOEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi, all: I thought I'd remembered a while back someone posted a link to a manual for the Boss RC-50 Looper. If I'm not imagining the aforementioned, can someone refresh my memory as to the location? THX. Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 23:25:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 607203BEE7; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <2de.59a6725.316c435c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:25:16 EDT Subject: Re: solid state recorders To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2de.59a6725.316c435c_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:25:25 +0000 (UTC) --part1_2de.59a6725.316c435c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/10/06 12:16:32 PM, hello@ianhenderson.co.za writes: > I just ordered a Marantz 660 > please keep us up-dated.....i find myself in the same boat.....thnax.....mic www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_2de.59a6725.316c435c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/10/06 12:16:32 PM, hello@ianhenderson.co.za writes:


I just ordered a Mara= ntz 660


please keep us up-dated.....i find myself in the same boat.....thnax.....= mic



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 --part1_2de.59a6725.316c435c_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 23:46:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E8783BEEC; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <2dd.59acb7b.316c486a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:46:50 EDT Subject: Re: Music Scene To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2dd.59acb7b.316c486a_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:46:57 +0000 (UTC) --part1_2dd.59acb7b.316c486a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 4/10/06 3:33:40 PM, johnsrude@peak.org writes: > Art is when I create music in my studio. In private.=A0 >=20 i hopefully believe that "someone" else is listening even "in=20 private".....:)mic www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_2dd.59acb7b.316c486a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/10/06 3:33:40 PM, johnsrude@peak.org writes:


Art is when I create=20= music in my studio. In private.=A0


i hopefully believe that "someone" else is listening  even "in priv= ate".....:)mic



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 --part1_2dd.59acb7b.316c486a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 10 23:53:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 729113BED5; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WNYw7dDA6+awLsjD4AaZb38Rafttst9Jj9qFsCTHpGNJdU1/2DBq9WtNKpclJcRAF4x8sm11qFucBOEhVXMkiYpFLYXNaCfIZ1BfzkOvcIJ6cj7nRQIWl8+qW9mQ0YyDf9tcea9FwA5Ba0HaJc3G8l8gcGuHroe4PKWWBA6fYrM= Message-ID: <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:53:49 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders In-Reply-To: <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:53:51 +0000 (UTC) http://www.edirol.net/products/en/R-09/specs.html I was disappointed though: 1. only takes SD which limits you to 2gig. 2. no digital in, only digital out?!? Why would you *ever* want digital out?!? And why would you want effects on the digital out?!? On 4/10/06, Dirk Wilbert wrote: > Yes; I'm waiting for the R-09 as it is much smaller than the R-1 and has > built-in microphones. The sound-demos of the R-1 that are available on > Edirol's website made me believer they're doing a good job. I hope the > quality of the R-09 microphones is similar to that of the R-1. > > Dirk > > I rather like the M-audio too, though I agree that there are problems. > > There was no other choice for me as I need coax digital. > > > > I hear that there's a new Edirol coming out that's much smaller and > > has different I/O...? > > > > On 4/10/06, David Gans wrote: > > > >> At 10:21 AM +0200 4/10/06, Michael Peters wrote: > >> > >>> my trusty old Sony DAT walkman is broken ... I'm thinking about getti= ng one > >>> of these new flash-card driven solid state recorders ... can anyone > >>> recommend one? the Marantz looks best but has a out-of-reach price t= ag ... > >>> I'd like to be able to record concerts but also field recordings ... = (can > >>> one also use them to temporarily store images from the digicam via us= b? that > >>> would be very cool for vacation) > >>> > >> I have been pretty happy with my M-Audio Microtrack. They've got > >> some more work to do on it, but they're improving it constantly. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > >> Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > >> Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > /t > > > > http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar > > http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... > > http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) > > > > > > . > > > > > > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 00:04:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EA813BEF0; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <316.27dade1.316c4c78@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:04:08 EDT Subject: Re: Music Scene To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_316.27dade1.316c4c78_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:04:14 +0000 (UTC) --part1_316.27dade1.316c4c78_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/9/06 9:58:28 PM, kevin@TheNettles.com writes: > Which is > the better path? > nice! www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_316.27dade1.316c4c78_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/9/06 9:58:28 PM, kevin@TheNettles.com writes:


Which is
the better path?


nice!



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 --part1_316.27dade1.316c4c78_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 00:16:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EECC63BEEC; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008e01c65cfd$21d36060$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:16:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:16:10 +0000 (UTC) David wrote: "I had a nasty and humiliating experience in Berkeley a few years ago when Henry Kaiser and John Oswald invited me to participate in a noise-type event. my guitar playing was way too pretty and conventional for the context, and I wound up feeling kinda stupid by the time it was over." I know the feeling, although in recent years I have really gotten more into being a complete chameleon, stylistically.................so that if it's a noise event, I just go for it in that context. I've found that it has helped my musicianship to put myself into scary, uncomfortable positions, stylistically. When my DSP unit completely failed during the Dark Elektronix festival and I was left with only non-reberbed found sound looping in the middle of all of this extremely intense and loud dark techno, drum and bass and experimental music I had the worst shame attack on stage. And yet, a young woman came up to me afterwards and said that she had been to all three nights of the festival and that what I did was the best thing she saw in the three days and that it totally inspired her. I was glad I risked it after that one response. I've been lucky enough to be asked to play the Disquiet Dark Ambient Festival, Binaural Dimensions, the Dark Elektronix Festival, the Boise Experimental Music Festival, The Kobe Underground Festival (where I did goth/pop work as a singer/sonwriter of all wierd things), the Zurich International Live Looping Festival (where I did my found/sound multi-instrumental schtick) and every one of these performances was catered to the specific styles of the festivals. the cool thing is that I"m really into relatively conventional pop music with vocals and chord progressions these days but all of the aspects of these styles that I've given myself to can sneak into the songs that I'm writing. An example of this is that I saw an unbelievably inspiring and creative concert last night in San Francisco..............the british band, ELBOW. Ultra minimalists, they are a five piece band that plays quiet and melancholic songs but there is the hint of 3rd world music ............glitch electronics.............rock and roll.............singer songwriter vibe.....even avante garde and found sound sensibilities in what they play, yet they are a fairly straightforward pop band (with a singer with an beautiful voice and a lot of melodic and emotional range). It's as good a concert as I've ever scene and my wife and I (she, as always, turned me onto them) were blissed out at the end of it. But, back to your comment , David, you certainly must know that Henry Kaiser is an amazingly versatile musician who plays a lot of pop as well as his avante garde stuff. did you ever find out what he thought of your playing? I only ask because I've discovered that frequently the way we feel about our playing is not necessarily how we are percieved. But I too, feel that I like conventional music too much for the avante garde scene and am too 'out' for the conventional pop world so I can relate. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 05:29:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3578A3BEEC; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 05:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443B3EC5.1000901@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:29:41 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 05:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Well, it's really small and has built-in microphones - that's enough for me ;-))) > http://www.edirol.net/products/en/R-09/specs.html > > I was disappointed though: > > 1. only takes SD which limits you to 2gig. > 2. no digital in, only digital out?!? Why would you *ever* want > digital out?!? And why would you want effects on the digital out?!? > > On 4/10/06, Dirk Wilbert wrote: > >> Yes; I'm waiting for the R-09 as it is much smaller than the R-1 and has >> built-in microphones. The sound-demos of the R-1 that are available on >> Edirol's website made me believer they're doing a good job. I hope the >> quality of the R-09 microphones is similar to that of the R-1. >> >> Dirk >> >>> I rather like the M-audio too, though I agree that there are problems. >>> There was no other choice for me as I need coax digital. >>> >>> I hear that there's a new Edirol coming out that's much smaller and >>> has different I/O...? >>> >>> On 4/10/06, David Gans wrote: >>> >>> >>>> At 10:21 AM +0200 4/10/06, Michael Peters wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> my trusty old Sony DAT walkman is broken ... I'm thinking about getting one >>>>> of these new flash-card driven solid state recorders ... can anyone >>>>> recommend one? the Marantz looks best but has a out-of-reach price tag ... >>>>> I'd like to be able to record concerts but also field recordings ... (can >>>>> one also use them to temporarily store images from the digicam via usb? that >>>>> would be very cool for vacation) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I have been pretty happy with my M-Audio Microtrack. They've got >>>> some more work to do on it, but they're improving it constantly. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >>>> Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 >>>> Blog: http://playback.trufun.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> /t >>> >>> http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar >>> http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... >>> http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) >>> >>> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > /t > > http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar > http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... > http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) > > > . > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 05:51:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11E5A3BEEC; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 05:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1801.128.193.37.212.1144700985.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <014e01c65c17$bab11b10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <1801.128.193.37.212.1144700985.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:47:59 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 05:51:08 +0000 (UTC) At 1:29 PM -0700 4/10/06, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > > I had a nasty and humiliating experience in Berkeley a few years ago >> when Henry Kaiser and John Oswald invited me to participate in a >> noise-type event. my guitar playing was way too pretty and >> conventional for the context, and I wound up feeling kinda stupid by >> the time it was over. > >Sounds like you got the attention but not the approval. ;-) > >Don't worry about it. That scene didn't work out. Try another scene. If >that scene doesn't work out and the one after that, then maybe that whole >scene isn't for you. Time to try a way different scene. Oh, I got over it. >When I was learning my chops, my motto used to be that any jam I didn't get >asked to leave was a success. HA! Good one. >Sounds like you have the chops just not the scene where they're welcome. I didn't have the chops for that scene. >Nobody can put you down without your permission. True, that. >Cultivate a serene smile--if nothing else, it will utterly mystify your >enemies. :-) Heh. Ultimately it cost me nothing but the esteem of a couple of musicians I haven't crossed paths with since. I remain friendly with Henry, and we play together from time to time in more appropriate contexts. And if you know Henry Kaiser, you know he's extremely versatile - and by the way, not the kind of person who would have intentionally thrown me into a situation where I didn't belong. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 06:01:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CFDD3BEF8; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <008e01c65cfd$21d36060$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <008e01c65cfd$21d36060$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:59:05 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:01:30 +0000 (UTC) At 5:16 PM -0700 4/10/06, loop.pool wrote: >David wrote: >"I had a nasty and humiliating experience in Berkeley a few years ago >when Henry Kaiser and John Oswald invited me to participate in a >noise-type event. my guitar playing was way too pretty and >conventional for the context, and I wound up feeling kinda stupid by >the time it was over." > >I know the feeling, although in recent years I have really gotten >more into being a complete chameleon, >stylistically.................so that if it's a noise event, I just >go for it in that context. I tried, believe me. But I just wasn't weird enough. I'm a good deal more confident today than I was when this happened, but I think at this point I'm much more likely to say "no thanks" to such an offer. I am almost always up for a challenge, but I also think it's good to know one's limits. I knew when I got there that I didn't really belong, but it wouldn't have been appropriate to split so I stayed and gave it my best shot. >I've found that it has helped my musicianship to put myself into >scary, uncomfortable positions, stylistically. Yes! That's why I went in the first place. >When my DSP unit completely failed during the Dark Elektronix >festival and I was left with only non-reberbed found sound looping >in the middle of all of this extremely intense and loud dark techno, >drum and bass and experimental music I had the worst shame attack on >stage. And yet, a young woman came up to me afterwards and said >that she had been to all three nights of the festival and that what >I did was the best thing she saw in the three days and that it >totally inspired her. I was glad I risked it after that one >response. Nice! >the cool thing is that I"m really into relatively conventional pop >music with vocals and chord progressions these days but all of the >aspects of these styles that I've given myself to can sneak into the >songs that I'm writing. That's the ticket. As I've said before, I am a pretty straightforward singer-songwriter type with a passion for loop improv. I'm better off slipping my weirdness into straighter gigs than vice versa. BTW, I played a gig with Joe Rut a couple of months ago. He left all his gear at home and delivered a set of great solo acoustic songs. >But, back to your comment , David, you certainly must know that >Henry Kaiser is an amazingly versatile musician who plays a lot of >pop as well as his avante garde stuff. did you ever find out what >he thought of your playing? I only ask because I've discovered >that frequently the way we feel about our playing is not necessarily >how we are percieved. I've been playing with Henry off and on since 1988. The last time we played together, on March 9, the set list included Richard Thompson, the Grateful Dead, Bob Dylan, "Spill the Wine" (Eric Burdon and War), and other pop classics. There was a gig in 1993 (I think) in which I found myself on stage between Henry and the saxophonist David Murray - two veritable fire hydrants of music - hanging on for dear life. That was a blast! >But I too, feel that I like conventional music too much for the >avante garde scene and am too 'out' for the conventional pop world We need to find a scene that supports precisely our weirdness quotient! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 07:47:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD7D73BEEE; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAABf7OkSIVCUJIQ Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060411081527.02c91eb0@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:44:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re:Re: Re:Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: <20060410232526.5F3313BEF6@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060410232526.5F3313BEF6@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:47:23 +0000 (UTC) > >>>It seems we live in a society that values image over content. kevin :- > >>Hmm. What's the difference? > > you know very well ;-) kevin:- >You have more confidence in my discriminative abilities than I do, I'm afraid. > I look on music as one of the performance arts. If I think of "content" as >the value of music and "image" as its presentation then I have trouble drawing >a sharp line between image and content. Or even any line at all. More like a >shading, I think. well, it does sound like you know the difference :-) >When I'm deciding whether or not to go to a movie, the first thing I look at >is the director. Is that image or content? > >Cheers, >Kevin Spielberg = image Tarkovsky = content andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 07:57:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40FEB3BEF8; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: splitting guitar signal (passive!) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:57:47 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:57:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a high end passive option: http://www.lehle.com/frameset.php?country=de&lang=en&A_Link=products I use it, it's great From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 08:13:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AE443BEFA; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: David Gans Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:13:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs? Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <443B7325.13800.215572@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:13:34 +0000 (UTC) > Now I'm thinking I'd like an A/B switch, rather than a splitter. Maybe > a line driver followed by a passive A/B switch? Best on the market, and extraordinarily cheap, is the behringer AB200. It's designed as a versatile AB switch, but I'm using it as two on/off switches, simply by inserting an "empty" jack plug in each "b" socket.... All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 08:13:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2CCD3BEFE; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, johnsrude@peak.org Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:13:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <443B7325.7742.215505@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1801.128.193.37.212.1144700985.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: <7irqWC.A.JeB.uU2OEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:13:34 +0000 (UTC) On 10 Apr 2006 at 13:29, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > > noise-type event. my guitar playing was way too pretty and > > conventional for the context, and I wound up feeling kinda stupid by > > the time it was over. We have an active "noise" scene here in sunny Sheffield and on the odd time I get to play at an event, I'm ignored as far too "sensible" - they seem to insist on no rhythm, no harmony, no melody. Then when I get a slot on a more conventional bill, they can't cope because there's no verse/chorus/M8! When I started out in the 80s doing "non conventional" gigs, I was almost "unplaying" - deliberately aiming for "wrong" notes and trying to subvert whatever scales and licks I'd worked so hard to learn. This must have been pretty awful to listen to and to this day, I can't begin to touch the inspired note choice of David Torn. However, you find a balance and eventually, you begin to develop your own sound and musical identity, but thick skin is a useful genetic bonus. Just play what you enjoy and eventually, you'll find someone else who gets pleasure from it, probably several on this list! All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 13:36:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87BE93BEF8; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HOoVoJwHBvpQCI82qwg84E3YMdUZixbY1bWDW7kCoAjpVVetK7BV46ssjU9HHjB2rkfEqHtd60Ppi41W+6GAA7CcjD0q099gw+53o0aL9ms816tCgDjHV6VxxxbKVBlVnkeIb2HINRg+RfvzH5W9o9kA7VPJ37nfhcila3+aRzw= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604110636q47c93293n99f5ce96c406ee31@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:36:36 +0100 From: "David Morton" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music is not political (Was Re: music is political) Cc: 3nki@modaldub.net In-Reply-To: <88ABFD4E-29B5-4793-8993-485709A2EC13@modaldub.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060403162723.A80323BF77@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060404081830.0282fa60@tiscali.co.uk> <88ABFD4E-29B5-4793-8993-485709A2EC13@modaldub.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:36:37 +0000 (UTC) On 4/4/06, 3nki <3nki@modaldub.net> wrote: > i think Attali's point about a future stage of "composers" (which he > wrote 30 years ago), where the former passive consumer of music, > whose main function was a capitalistic one of purchasing recordings > of music, instead in some fashion creates (or 'composes') their own > music has proved somewhat accurate. he could not forsee PodCasts, > file sharing, mash-ups, ableton Live, and so on, but given his > remoteness his prescience seems remarkable. needless to say, i highly > recommend his book "Noise" to anyone with a smidgen of interest in > music, philosophy, politics or society. Thank you again for recommeding Attali's book, it came yesterday and I've just finished it. I think it has fundamentally changed the way I think about music. D From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 14:19:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7AB63BF00; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> References: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ed Drake Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs? Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:21:28 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) I use a Valvulator by VHT which is a buffer preamp with a tube in it (12AX7, I think) that has one input and two outputs so you would still need something else later in your chain to switch between signal paths but you won't get any signal loss. This is a little pricey around $150 or so US, and I think they are still being made. Ed From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 14:32:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 577163BEF8; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060411070800.01be8cb0@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:33:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Scary Situations In-Reply-To: References: <008e01c65cfd$21d36060$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:32:48 +0000 (UTC) >>David wrote: >>"I had a nasty and humiliating experience in Berkeley a few years ago >>when Henry Kaiser and John Oswald invited me to participate in a >>noise-type event... >I knew when I got there that I didn't really belong, but it wouldn't >have been appropriate to split so I stayed and gave it my best shot. Scary. How did you know when you arrived that you didn't belong? Was everyone dressing like the guest list at an art school concert? I think about when I've been in scary situations. My first impulse is usually, "Well, it can't get any worse. At this point I have absolutely nothing to lose. So I'm gonna dig in and hold on." Then my more sensible brain kicks in and I decide whether I'm going to play quietly and not get in anybody's way or loudly and make an impression. But then I taught myself guitar after having nightmares about not being able to play guitar and being on stage and having a guitar solo. Man, it can never get worse than that. I can get tense on stage but I never have actual stage fright because I tell myself: 1. The audience didn't come to hear me suck. So they will be charitable. 2. If I suck then the folks I'm playing will also suck. So they will do their best to keep my head above water. 3. Some people have in the past enjoyed some of my most desperate moments. 4. The worst experiences make the best stories. 5. It's only a gig. Remember what PT Barnum said, "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell my name right." 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 ------=_NextPart_000_0327_01C65D86.94AAF330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 15:02:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2AD83BF14; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060411073711.01c26a90@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:02:46 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re Music Scene In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060411081527.02c91eb0@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20060410232526.5F3313BEF6@arsenic.violacea.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060411081527.02c91eb0@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <_l2VkB.A.rrH.2T8OEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:02:14 +0000 (UTC) At 12:44 AM 4/11/2006, Andy wrote: >Spielberg = image >Tarkovsky = content Ah, but I deliberately see every Spielberg movie I can. (Did I say that? Oh no, my boho cred is shot!) He's the only one of his cohort (Coppola, Lucas) who continues to make original movies. But I think we've drifted very far away from the original point of my post, which is that if we want a musical scene, we have to create our own. A scene is a social context, a society in which the music that we create can flourish. A society attracts people for many reasons, not all of which have to do with the music itself. Which leads back to one of favorite aphorisms that must be boring the heck out of everybody on the list. "I don't want to smash the state. I want my own damn state." Don't blame society as a whole or consumer culture or whatever outside force you care to name for your music not being heard. The venue for your music is your own personal responsibility. If only four people come to your shows you can make one of two conclusions: 1) you didn't do enough promo or 2) people just don't like your music enough to come out and see it. What you do with those two conclusions is entirely up to you. There has never been a time in history when so much has been possible musically. The culture of sampling and iTunes has opened people's minds to a huge variety of music. It has never been cheaper to start your own record company and distribute your own music. The Internet and iPods have opened up an entirely different broadcasting medium. Social networking websites and blogs are an entirely different way of getting the word out about your music. Looper's Delight is an example of this--thank you, Kim! "Don't dream it - be it." -- Rocky Horror Picture Show "Thus endeth the lesson." Cheers, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 15:12:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCC873BF10; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <054761F9-6BDA-47C4-8BAB-FE053737AEB8@arcor.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: stage perception (Rick's post) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:12:49 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Rick wrote: .... did you ever find out what he thought of your playing? I only ask because I've discovered that frequently the way we feel about our playing is not necessarily how we are percieved. ....very true. When I listen back to concert tapes, it can bei either better or worse than I expected. I try to concentrate on having fun on stage no matter what. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 16:45:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA7BB3BF0D; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001b01c65d87$62407f40$e5b95545@Biffoz> From: "Miko Biffle" To: References: <008e01c65cfd$21d36060$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060411070800.01be8cb0@TheNettles.com> Subject: Re: Scary Situations Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:45:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: <7GdP7.A.BpB.d09OEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:45:17 +0000 (UTC) >>> David wrote: "I had a nasty and humiliating experience in Berkeley a few years ago when Henry Kaiser and John Oswald invited me to participate in a noise-type event... I knew when I got there that I didn't really belong, but it wouldn't have been appropriate to split so I stayed and gave it my best shot. > Scary. How did you know when you arrived that you didn't belong? Was everyone dressing like the guest list at an art school concert? In my experience, the knowledge comes after that first ambient/noise intro, when things start to settle into a 'decision' among the players... if there is NO decision, and the noise just continues, then I'm probably in the wrong place. Although there are times when I'm really at home with just texture and noise, but I'm very much into 'melodic' statements and motifs, however disjointed. > I think about when I've been in scary situations. My first impulse is usually, "Well, it can't get any worse. At this point I have absolutely nothing to lose. So I'm gonna dig in and hold on." Then my more sensible brain kicks in and I decide whether I'm going to play quietly and not get in anybody's way or loudly and make an impression. But then I taught myself guitar after having nightmares about not being able to play guitar and being on stage and having a guitar solo. Man, it can never get worse than that. I'll usually stand back and let the other players dig their own hole... then figure out how to add some defining statement over it, or come crashing in with what turns out to be a transitional element. > I can get tense on stage but I never have actual stage fright because I tell myself: > 1. The audience didn't come to hear me suck. So they will be charitable. > 2. If I suck then the folks I'm playing will also suck. So they will do their best to keep my head above water. > 3. Some people have in the past enjoyed some of my most desperate moments. > 4. The worst experiences make the best stories. > 5. It's only a gig. > Remember what PT Barnum said, "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell my name right." I use these axioms to console myself as well, but for me it can hurt to be at odds with what's going on too many times in a row. It's just not constructive. I think David said it in a previous post... I'm too weird and outside for *normal* folks, and too structured and melodic for the non-idomatic free-improv gang. Rick described the singer-songwriter gig he attended, which sounds very much like what I'm heading for with my music... references and transitions that are improvised and post-modern electronic, hiding in conventional songwriting. Here's one for ya'll... how about when you're playing a SOLO gig, and you realize that you *still* don't fit in? 8-) (not schizophrenic, but one can hope... ) Miko Biffle -- "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." C'mon over to MySpace! www.myspace.com/biffozz Now playing 'Rough' www.cdbaby.com/biffoz The Chain Tape Collective! www.ct-collective.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 17:08:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04F123BF17; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060411070800.01be8cb0@TheNettles.com> References: <008e01c65cfd$21d36060$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060411070800.01be8cb0@TheNettles.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:04:19 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Scary Situations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:08:55 +0000 (UTC) At 7:33 AM -0700 4/11/06, Kevin wrote: >>>David wrote: >>>"I had a nasty and humiliating experience in Berkeley a few years ago >>>when Henry Kaiser and John Oswald invited me to participate in a >>>noise-type event... >>I knew when I got there that I didn't really belong, but it >>wouldn't have been appropriate to split so I stayed and gave it my >>best shot. > >Scary. How did you know when you arrived that you didn't belong? >Was everyone dressing like the guest list at an art school concert? Heh. No, it was the sounds. Not much pitch, not much rhythm, not much beauty. >I can get tense on stage but I never have actual stage fright >because I tell myself: > >1. The audience didn't come to hear me suck. So they will be charitable. > >2. If I suck then the folks I'm playing will also suck. So they >will do their best to keep my head above water. > >3. Some people have in the past enjoyed some of my most desperate moments. > >4. The worst experiences make the best stories. > >5. It's only a gig. Good stuff. The only time in recent memory that I've been nervous on stage was when Darol Anger sat in with me in Florida a couple of weeks ago. He walked onto the stage while I was getting a loop piece started, and just wove his fiddle right in. I was thinking, "This isn't nearly interesting enough for him," but it was actually pretty cool. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 17:17:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 605363BF20; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3434.128.193.37.212.1144775828.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <008e01c65cfd$21d36060$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060411070800.01be8cb0@TheNettles.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Scary Situations From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <6ZwFFB.A.mRC.VS-OEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:17:10 +0000 (UTC) > David wrote: > The only time in recent memory that I've been nervous on stage was > when Darol Anger sat in with me in Florida a couple of weeks ago... Darol Anger, Henry Kaiser,... Man, I'm envious! Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 17:28:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 079A03BF02; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3434.128.193.37.212.1144775828.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <008e01c65cfd$21d36060$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060411070800.01be8cb0@TheNettles.com> <3434.128.193.37.212.1144775828.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:21:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Scary Situations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:28:58 +0000 (UTC) At 10:17 AM -0700 4/11/06, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > > David wrote: >> The only time in recent memory that I've been nervous on stage was >> when Darol Anger sat in with me in Florida a couple of weeks ago... > >Darol Anger, Henry Kaiser,... > >Man, I'm envious! Most of the musicians I play with are a good deal less well-known than those two, but no less wonderful to play with. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 17:34:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5DC13BF13; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:34:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lsOA9UpgbrVa4XWUPUhSfCrjxPiyDoIGyYEEauiKJ/fJ9649IsUe526bnB73kXDTZ70hRLap2ndmw5Kx2Lzj7lijY+8zH7kaGJsQSkswQsrPRKfduxCz6K2aQyaRuvJQ2uVu5pfZcnvypfRIpMaKOg+Kh5aMPtu5IhxOMkX8RaY= ; Message-ID: <20060411173458.16870.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3434.128.193.37.212.1144775828.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:34:59 +0000 (UTC) One of my most scary moments was when I invited a Gregorian Chant vocalist up on stage. He had initially approached me at a small art opening and asked if he could sit in. He was GREAT and it really clicked. I figured, "I bet there aren't many sucky Gregorian Chanters out there." It paid off... for that gig. He showed up to our next show and was HORRIBLE. I don't know what it was. He seemed very very stoned. I was standing next to him and his voice was coming through the monitor clearly, so it wasn't like he couldn't hear himself. I didn't know what was going on. So after a while of trying to get things on a melodic track, I just decided to go with it and go atonal. What else can you do? WHEN YOUR GUEST VOCALIST WON'T LEAVE! He wouldn't get off the mic! Finally when I realized he was killing us, I just took the mic from him and said, "OK, that's great. Talk to you later." He scowled at me for a bit but finally left. So I guess the moral of the story is, it's a messy world and shit happens. Try to laugh and go on. There's not much sense in dwelling on a bad show or letting a bad moment ruin a show for you. I find if you can see the humor in it and laugh, the audience will laugh with you and forgive. There's nothing worse than transfering your tension to your audience. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 17:59:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 457F23BF17; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=S/V63Ph0wDB10G0znLeroSKASaRPe/I6qZO9EhMvh219i3LqME6HwkU5PzTVdj0k; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:58:15 -0800 Subject: Re: splitting guitar signal (passive!) From: stanitarium To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd487923e36534946ddc2adbfaa80441019a666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.243.203.139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:59:04 +0000 (UTC) on 4/10/06 11:57 PM, Andreas Willers at a.willers@arcor.de wrote: > This is a high end passive option: > > http://www.lehle.com/frameset.php?country=de&lang=en&A_Link=products > > I use it, it's great > i also use it, its greater s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 18:12:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D776B3BF1F; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00de01c65d93$71a4cfc0$6401a8c0@DJGZQV51> Reply-To: "Trista Hill" From: "Trista Hill" To: Subject: How to start Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:12:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C65D71.E9E05A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:12:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C65D71.E9E05A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sure you get posts like this all the time! I just subscribed to the = list today and though I have been spending time searching around the = archives, I'm impatient enough to just come out and ask my question. I want to get started using looping devices in order to channel the = incessant music I hear in my head. I love what Andrew Bird and Caryn = Lin are doing with the violin, and Zoe Keating with the cello.... I want = to do something similar with harp. While they make electroacoustic = harps now, I am in no position to run out and buy one. So I will be using my acoustic semi-grand pedal harp, though it's = difficult to capture the harp's full range. Was looking at a Line 6 DL4 = delay pedal (used by Andrew Bird), and briefly looked at the Akai = Headrush pedal (though I think the sampling time is too short for what I = need). The equipment I currently have is a Tascam Portastudio, a Peavey = Ecoustic amp, and a few mics (at least one condenser). Sad but true -- = when you are playing weddings all the time, you really don't have the = need for anything else! I have asked around on some harp sites about = looping devices, but apparently no one has experience with playing the = harp in this way (oh the blasphemy...) My goal is to create real-time loops for live performances (eventually) = and to work out ideas that I can take to a studio and record. I'm in = relative isolation here in the Midwest given my interests and = instrument, so perhaps erroneously have been thinking that the only way = to get where I want to go, I'll have to do it myself. Any advice to a bumbling beginner would be so much appreciated. Trista Hill www.tristahill.com ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C65D71.E9E05A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sure you get posts like this all the time! I = just=20 subscribed to the list today and though I have been spending time = searching=20 around the archives, I'm impatient enough to just come out and ask my=20 question.
 
I want to get started using looping devices in order = to=20 channel the incessant music I hear in my head.  I love what = Andrew=20 Bird and Caryn Lin are doing with the violin, and Zoe Keating with the = cello....=20 I want to do something similar with harp.  While they make = electroacoustic=20 harps now, I am in no position to run out and buy one.
 
So I will be using my acoustic semi-grand pedal = harp,=20 though it's difficult to capture the harp's full range. =20 Was looking at a Line 6 DL4 delay pedal (used by Andrew Bird), and = briefly=20 looked at the Akai Headrush pedal (though I think the sampling time is = too short=20 for what I need).  The equipment I currently have is a Tascam=20 Portastudio, a Peavey Ecoustic amp, and a few mics (at least one=20 condenser).  Sad but true -- when you are playing weddings all the = time,=20 you really don't have the need for anything else! I have asked = around on=20 some harp sites about looping devices, but apparently no one has = experience with=20 playing the harp in this way (oh the blasphemy...)
 
My goal is to create real-time loops for live = performances=20 (eventually) and to work out ideas that I can take to a studio and=20 record.  I'm in relative isolation here in = the Midwest given=20 my interests and instrument, so perhaps erroneously have been thinking = that the=20 only way to get where I want to go, I'll have to do it = myself.
 
Any advice to a bumbling beginner would be so much=20 appreciated.
 
Trista Hill
www.tristahill.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C65D71.E9E05A80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 18:29:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A4E73BF26; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00de01c65d93$71a4cfc0$6401a8c0@DJGZQV51> References: <00de01c65d93$71a4cfc0$6401a8c0@DJGZQV51> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:21:44 -0700 To: "Trista Hill" , From: David Gans Subject: Re: How to start Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Trista, You're going to want more capacity than the Line 6 will give you. I've been using the Boss RC-20XL for quite a while, and I think it's a great way for you to get started. Plenty of capacity, easy to use. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 18:31:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C521F3BF14; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=27v8nONGHLDFk6A98nubZSFtBP2RxmqjsMpUivji0llpDKRpu++T11jrmzglCmhmJb6dOEtIiFNZy8zJvTzgwCmcrE28N3euf0kh/HGf+7ygXII6mn122IQVCmF+BFwwkFAuOphxw5xzjgepu1acNgBikZz1QazydQQa18UStcs= ; Message-ID: <20060411183116.93965.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: How to start To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00de01c65d93$71a4cfc0$6401a8c0@DJGZQV51> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3CCCgD.A.vIE.1X_OEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:31:17 +0000 (UTC) The DL-4 pedel is a fine hunk of looper, although I found it's limitation of not being able to set the feedback % to be a deal breaker. I love to build up a loop, have it run as it is for a while while improvising over it, then open it back up and have what I recorded fade as I had new sound, until I have a totally different loop. But that's me. Maybe you never want to fade your loops. Check out the Boss Loopstation too, lots of people here love it and a new one that does multipal loops is coming out soon. I'm a fan of the Boss GigaDelay DD-20 http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20_review1.html I like it better than the DL-4 due to it's ability to have 2 loops instead of one and it's ability to control the feedback level. It also has some cool delay models. They're a bit gimmicky, but fun and sometimes just what you want. Did you have a price range? I think I paid $200 for the GigaDelay. You can easily spend up to $1500 for a looper, but for your first you might want to start small. Soon you'll say, "damn if only my looper did..." Next thing you'll know you have to buy a rack for all your gear. ;) Mark --- Trista Hill wrote: > I'm sure you get posts like this all the time! I > just subscribed to the list today and though I have > been spending time searching around the archives, > I'm impatient enough to just come out and ask my > question. > > I want to get started using looping devices in order > to channel the incessant music I hear in my head. I > love what Andrew Bird and Caryn Lin are doing with > the violin, and Zoe Keating with the cello.... I > want to do something similar with harp. While they > make electroacoustic harps now, I am in no position > to run out and buy one. > > So I will be using my acoustic semi-grand pedal > harp, though it's difficult to capture the harp's > full range. Was looking at a Line 6 DL4 delay pedal > (used by Andrew Bird), and briefly looked at the > Akai Headrush pedal (though I think the sampling > time is too short for what I need). The equipment I > currently have is a Tascam Portastudio, a Peavey > Ecoustic amp, and a few mics (at least one > condenser). Sad but true -- when you are playing > weddings all the time, you really don't have the > need for anything else! I have asked around on some > harp sites about looping devices, but apparently no > one has experience with playing the harp in this way > (oh the blasphemy...) > > My goal is to create real-time loops for live > performances (eventually) and to work out ideas that > I can take to a studio and record. I'm in relative > isolation here in the Midwest given my interests and > instrument, so perhaps erroneously have been > thinking that the only way to get where I want to > go, I'll have to do it myself. > > Any advice to a bumbling beginner would be so much > appreciated. > > Trista Hill > www.tristahill.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 18:34:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F11BD3BF34; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C65D96.896D1474" Subject: RE: How to start Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:34:15 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: How to start Thread-Index: AcZdk3QMmHynFkixRV+8Qeq7zX2GNgAApvvg From: "Dean, Hal " To: "Trista Hill" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2006 18:34:16.0517 (UTC) FILETIME=[89CF2750:01C65D96] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:34:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C65D96.896D1474 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Although what she plays most often is hardly a semi-grand, you might want to check out Zeena Parkins, a pretty radical player (way past A. Bird) and maybe not your target style, but there may be info on her equipment. In Skeleton Crew, she and Frith and Cora were all using looping of a primitive sort at least, and she's been beyond that adventurous crew for 20 years or more. =20 Howl Din -----Original Message----- From: Trista Hill [mailto:trista@tristahill.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: How to start =09 =09 I'm sure you get posts like this all the time! I just subscribed to the list today and though I have been spending time searching around the archives, I'm impatient enough to just come out and ask my question. =20 I want to get started using looping devices in order to channel the incessant music I hear in my head. I love what Andrew Bird and Caryn Lin are doing with the violin, and Zoe Keating with the cello.... I want to do something similar with harp. While they make electroacoustic harps now, I am in no position to run out and buy one. =20 So I will be using my acoustic semi-grand pedal harp, though it's difficult to capture the harp's full range. Was looking at a Line 6 DL4 delay pedal (used by Andrew Bird), and briefly looked at the Akai Headrush pedal (though I think the sampling time is too short for what I need). The equipment I currently have is a Tascam Portastudio, a Peavey Ecoustic amp, and a few mics (at least one condenser). Sad but true -- when you are playing weddings all the time, you really don't have the need for anything else! I have asked around on some harp sites about looping devices, but apparently no one has experience with playing the harp in this way (oh the blasphemy...) =20 My goal is to create real-time loops for live performances (eventually) and to work out ideas that I can take to a studio and record. I'm in relative isolation here in the Midwest given my interests and instrument, so perhaps erroneously have been thinking that the only way to get where I want to go, I'll have to do it myself. =20 Any advice to a bumbling beginner would be so much appreciated. =20 Trista Hill www.tristahill.com =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C65D96.896D1474 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Although what she plays most often is hardly = a=20 semi-grand, you might want to check out Zeena Parkins, a pretty radical = player=20 (way past A. Bird) and maybe not your target style, but there may be = info on her=20 equipment. In Skeleton Crew, she and Frith and Cora were all using = looping of a=20 primitive sort at least, and she's been beyond that adventurous crew for = 20=20 years or more.
 
Howl Din
-----Original Message-----
From: = Trista Hill=20 [mailto:trista@tristahill.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, = 2006 2:12=20 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: How to=20 start

I'm sure you get posts like this all the time! I = just=20 subscribed to the list today and though I have been spending time = searching around the archives, I'm impatient enough to just come out = and ask=20 my question.
 
I want to get started using looping devices in = order to=20 channel the incessant music I hear in my head.  I love what = Andrew=20 Bird and Caryn Lin are doing with the violin, and Zoe Keating with the = cello.... I want to do something similar with harp.  While they = make=20 electroacoustic harps now, I am in no position to run out and buy=20 one.
 
So I will be using my acoustic semi-grand pedal = harp,=20 though it's difficult to capture the harp's full range. =20 Was looking at a Line 6 DL4 delay pedal (used by Andrew Bird), = and=20 briefly looked at the Akai Headrush pedal (though I think the sampling = time is=20 too short for what I need).  The equipment I currently have = is a=20 Tascam Portastudio, a Peavey Ecoustic amp, and a few mics (at least = one=20 condenser).  Sad but true -- when you are playing weddings all = the time,=20 you really don't have the need for anything else! I have asked = around on=20 some harp sites about looping devices, but apparently no one has = experience=20 with playing the harp in this way (oh the blasphemy...)
 
My goal is to create real-time loops for live = performances=20 (eventually) and to work out ideas that I can take to a studio = and=20 record.  I'm in relative isolation here in = the Midwest=20 given my interests and instrument, so perhaps erroneously have been = thinking=20 that the only way to get where I want to go, I'll have to do it=20 myself.
 
Any advice to a bumbling beginner would be so much = appreciated.
 
Trista Hill
www.tristahill.com
 
=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C65D96.896D1474-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 18:41:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85EE43BF3F; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: splitting guitar signal (passive!) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:41:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: splitting guitar signal (passive!) Thread-Index: AcZdkaC0TcHCKgYkQP+Gkv56/Ji73AABY7rg From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2006 18:41:15.0084 (UTC) FILETIME=[834B68C0:01C65D97] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Very interesting. I notice no one mentions Loooper, though in the past Looper got a lot of discussion here if I recall correctly. So how on does one find out how pricey these high end options are? Also, anyone use a Framptone? Howl Din -----Original Message----- From: stanitarium [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:58 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: splitting guitar signal (passive!) on 4/10/06 11:57 PM, Andreas Willers at a.willers@arcor.de wrote: > This is a high end passive option: >=20 > = http://www.lehle.com/frameset.php?country=3Dde&lang=3Den&A_Link=3Dproduct= s >=20 > I use it, it's great >=20 i also use it, its greater s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 19:31:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C57103BF17; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAABaeO0SIWSw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060411202950.0327f620@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:31:02 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re:Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: <20060411144008.EA0633BF08@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060411144008.EA0633BF08@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:31:17 +0000 (UTC) >i hopefully believe that "someone" else is listening even "in >private".....:)mic that's right, we bugged the embassy andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 21:01:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A5103BF25; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: cburke55@comcast.net (Christophe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to start Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:01:07 +0000 Message-Id: <041120062101.12958.443C1912000DA1150000329E2200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: Y2J1cmtlNTVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= Resent-Message-ID: <_WGnN.A.bIC.VkBPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Actually, I run a Boss RC-20 into a DD-20 with the feedback set high, which I can turn on to catch a loop from the RC-20 (assuming it's less than 23 seconds), then shut of the DD-20 and let it fade over multiple cycles while starting a new loop on the RC-20. A little more cumbersome than having a looper with feedback built in, but it works! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: mark sottilaro > The DL-4 pedel is a fine hunk of looper, although I > found it's limitation of not being able to set the > feedback % to be a deal breaker. I love to build up a > loop, have it run as it is for a while while > improvising over it, then open it back up and have > what I recorded fade as I had new sound, until I have > a totally different loop. > > But that's me. Maybe you never want to fade your > loops. Check out the Boss Loopstation too, lots of > people here love it and a new one that does multipal > loops is coming out soon. > > I'm a fan of the Boss GigaDelay DD-20 > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20_review1.html > > I like it better than the DL-4 due to it's ability to > have 2 loops instead of one and it's ability to > control the feedback level. It also has some cool > delay models. They're a bit gimmicky, but fun and > sometimes just what you want. > > Did you have a price range? I think I paid $200 for > the GigaDelay. You can easily spend up to $1500 for a > looper, but for your first you might want to start > small. Soon you'll say, "damn if only my looper > did..." Next thing you'll know you have to buy a rack > for all your gear. ;) > > Mark > > --- Trista Hill wrote: > > > I'm sure you get posts like this all the time! I > > just subscribed to the list today and though I have > > been spending time searching around the archives, > > I'm impatient enough to just come out and ask my > > question. > > > > I want to get started using looping devices in order > > to channel the incessant music I hear in my head. I > > love what Andrew Bird and Caryn Lin are doing with > > the violin, and Zoe Keating with the cello.... I > > want to do something similar with harp. While they > > make electroacoustic harps now, I am in no position > > to run out and buy one. > > > > So I will be using my acoustic semi-grand pedal > > harp, though it's difficult to capture the harp's > > full range. Was looking at a Line 6 DL4 delay pedal > > (used by Andrew Bird), and briefly looked at the > > Akai Headrush pedal (though I think the sampling > > time is too short for what I need). The equipment I > > currently have is a Tascam Portastudio, a Peavey > > Ecoustic amp, and a few mics (at least one > > condenser). Sad but true -- when you are playing > > weddings all the time, you really don't have the > > need for anything else! I have asked around on some > > harp sites about looping devices, but apparently no > > one has experience with playing the harp in this way > > (oh the blasphemy...) > > > > My goal is to create real-time loops for live > > performances (eventually) and to work out ideas that > > I can take to a studio and record. I'm in relative > > isolation here in the Midwest given my interests and > > instrument, so perhaps erroneously have been > > thinking that the only way to get where I want to > > go, I'll have to do it myself. > > > > Any advice to a bumbling beginner would be so much > > appreciated. > > > > Trista Hill > > www.tristahill.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 23:43:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DED43BF23; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@com cast.net> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:41:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: new loop piece Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Just to give you a concrete example of the sort of melodic, non-noise loop improvs I tend to do, here's one I recorded last night: http://www.gdhour.com/music/UpLate.060410.mp3 -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 23:46:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BD4B3BF26; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YZVLxlUvZdPumJvs4RIlC7PDh/b8zTAnxAcu8roeNutEu5FkCG/gD3/WiPQmWo460wq1JuAITB6GUykRTitsnZevLchPvt5SPyDIIu8nBturoXZohjjnlLF+uTP0dyHogzVbl4b+3ZSRNfT/SbjE/Aq/H4xpnBt8YX602i2cFj0= Message-ID: <913728d60604111646gd537869s4d69026611226ffa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:46:06 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new loop piece In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: <_r1fv.A.F9G.B_DPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:46:09 +0000 (UTC) thats cool! it sounds like what i have been doing with my bass and looper...very cool! Charlie On 4/11/06, David Gans wrote: > > > Just to give you a concrete example of the sort of melodic, non-noise > loop improvs I tend to do, here's one I recorded last night: > > http://www.gdhour.com/music/UpLate.060410.mp3 > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 11 23:49:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 630B43BF32; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:57:03 -0400 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: Re: How to start To: Message-id: <002901c65dc3$a2130840$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C65DA2.1A8BEA20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <00de01c65d93$71a4cfc0$6401a8c0@DJGZQV51> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:49:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C65DA2.1A8BEA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trista - Welcome to Loopers-Delight. This is a great forum to ask questions. = Many many people here are available to help. =20 A few things come to mind after reading your posting. A lot of looping people are on a Quest for a Better Device to suit there = needs and budget. There are a lot of looping units out there today. = Don't feel bashful about selling what you first get and moving on. = Rather than sticking with something you don't like. This is obvious, I = know. But I mention it so as to take some pressure off the first unit = you buy -- it need not be so precious a choice. Questions: =20 1) Will you want to store loops which you would want to recall and play = along with afterwards - or do you only need to create things live? 2) How long do you guess (in seconds) are the phrases you might like to = loop? 3) Do you hope to have sections (A/B/A/C) to your loops - or just a = steady background overwhich you might add a layer or two? Don't think you need to have definitive answers to these questions, but = the answers you have will point you towards different tools. 1) If you want to recall previous loops that are stored, that is a = feature some devices provide - and some do not. 2) If you think the phrases you may want to loop are short - then older = devices (which can be found used) may OK. Newer devices tend to have = longer available looping time (as technology has advanced quite = quickly). 3) If you require the ability to subtract layers also, then that knocks = out quite a few devices. I'm sure others here will have a few more suggestions. =20 Here is a link worth investigating: = http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/tools.html By the way, I believe Zoe Keating uses an Electrix Repeater. Best of luck. David Kirkdorffer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Trista Hill=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:12 PM Subject: How to start I'm sure you get posts like this all the time! I just subscribed to = the list today and though I have been spending time searching around the = archives, I'm impatient enough to just come out and ask my question. I want to get started using looping devices in order to channel the = incessant music I hear in my head. I love what Andrew Bird and Caryn = Lin are doing with the violin, and Zoe Keating with the cello.... I want = to do something similar with harp. While they make electroacoustic = harps now, I am in no position to run out and buy one. So I will be using my acoustic semi-grand pedal harp, though it's = difficult to capture the harp's full range. Was looking at a Line 6 DL4 = delay pedal (used by Andrew Bird), and briefly looked at the Akai = Headrush pedal (though I think the sampling time is too short for what I = need). The equipment I currently have is a Tascam Portastudio, a Peavey = Ecoustic amp, and a few mics (at least one condenser). Sad but true -- = when you are playing weddings all the time, you really don't have the = need for anything else! I have asked around on some harp sites about = looping devices, but apparently no one has experience with playing the = harp in this way (oh the blasphemy...) My goal is to create real-time loops for live performances = (eventually) and to work out ideas that I can take to a studio and = record. I'm in relative isolation here in the Midwest given my = interests and instrument, so perhaps erroneously have been thinking that = the only way to get where I want to go, I'll have to do it myself. Any advice to a bumbling beginner would be so much appreciated. Trista Hill www.tristahill.com ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C65DA2.1A8BEA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Trista -
 
Welcome to Loopers-Delight.  This = is a great=20 forum to ask questions.  Many many people here are available to = help. =20
 
A few things come to mind after reading = your=20 posting.
 
A lot of looping people are on a Quest = for a Better=20 Device to suit there needs and budget. There are a lot of = looping=20 units out there today.  Don't feel bashful about selling what you = first get=20 and moving on. Rather than sticking with something you don't = like. This is=20 obvious, I know.  But I mention it so as to take some pressure off = the=20 first unit you buy -- it need not be so precious a choice.
 
Questions: 
 
1) Will you want to store loops which = you would=20 want to recall and play along with afterwards - or do you only need to = create=20 things live?
2) How long do you guess (in seconds) = are the=20 phrases you might like to loop?
3) Do you hope to have sections = (A/B/A/C) to your=20 loops - or just a steady background overwhich you might add a layer or=20 two?
 
Don't think you need to have definitive = answers to=20 these questions, but the answers you have will point you towards = different=20 tools.
 
1) If you want to recall previous loops = that are=20 stored, that is a feature some devices provide - and some do = not.
2) If you think the phrases you may = want to loop=20 are short - then older devices (which can be found used) may OK.  = Newer=20 devices tend to have longer available looping time (as technology has = advanced=20 quite quickly).
3) If you require the ability to = subtract layers=20 also, then that knocks out quite a few devices.
 
I'm sure others here will have a few = more=20 suggestions. 
 
Here is a link worth investigating: http://www.loope= rs-delight.com/tools/tools.html
 
By the way, I believe Zoe Keating uses = an Electrix=20 Repeater.
 
Best = of=20 luck.
 
David Kirkdorffer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Trista=20 Hill
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 = 2:12=20 PM
Subject: How to start

I'm sure you get posts like this all the time! I = just=20 subscribed to the list today and though I have been spending time = searching around the archives, I'm impatient enough to just come out = and ask=20 my question.
 
I want to get started using looping devices in = order to=20 channel the incessant music I hear in my head.  I love what = Andrew=20 Bird and Caryn Lin are doing with the violin, and Zoe Keating with the = cello.... I want to do something similar with harp.  While they = make=20 electroacoustic harps now, I am in no position to run out and buy=20 one.
 
So I will be using my acoustic semi-grand pedal = harp,=20 though it's difficult to capture the harp's full range. =20 Was looking at a Line 6 DL4 delay pedal (used by Andrew Bird), = and=20 briefly looked at the Akai Headrush pedal (though I think the sampling = time is=20 too short for what I need).  The equipment I currently have = is a=20 Tascam Portastudio, a Peavey Ecoustic amp, and a few mics (at least = one=20 condenser).  Sad but true -- when you are playing weddings all = the time,=20 you really don't have the need for anything else! I have asked = around on=20 some harp sites about looping devices, but apparently no one has = experience=20 with playing the harp in this way (oh the blasphemy...)
 
My goal is to create real-time loops for live = performances=20 (eventually) and to work out ideas that I can take to a studio = and=20 record.  I'm in relative isolation here in = the Midwest=20 given my interests and instrument, so perhaps erroneously have been = thinking=20 that the only way to get where I want to go, I'll have to do it=20 myself.
 
Any advice to a bumbling beginner would be so much = appreciated.
 
Trista Hill
www.tristahill.com
  =
------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C65DA2.1A8BEA20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 00:10:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C08D3BF36; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443C456A.8010206@bagend.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:10:18 -0500 From: Henry Heine User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <588ce11d0604101257t3fb34ed0je6b5a39b5eb9ef43@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0604101257t3fb34ed0je6b5a39b5eb9ef43@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:10:20 +0000 (UTC) I've had the Marantz PMD660 since July 2005, and it works ok, BUT: The on board mics sound good, but it's very sensitive and there is no pad and no limiter. Unuseable for live music recording, at least the kind of SPLs that I play. The xlr mic inputs are nice, but no pads and no limiter. arrgghhhh. See above. There is no fast forward (ok, there is a 2x ffwd). If you're not placing markers, because maybe you're trying to play, this makes it hard to do quick checks on stuff after the set. I wish there were an spdif input, as my mixer has an spdif out. It's nice for field recordings of bugs and birds, but then it's a little on the large side. I wouldn't mind if it had limiters. I want the feature set of my Sony portable DAT from 1989, only smaller, and with a built in mic. And I would like if you could use 1 mic in and 1 line in simultaneously. The DAT does that, too. I've actually had very few successful recordings of live music with this thing. Great bugs and birds, though. -Henry Art Simon wrote: > > Interestingly, the Marantz recorders had some distortion problems. > Unfortunately, the article was written before the MicroTrack came out. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 00:24:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA1AB3BF26; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443C48B4.1090908@bagend.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:24:20 -0500 From: Henry Heine User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Sound Devices: 7-Series Recorders Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010907000202080302060703" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:24:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010907000202080302060703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 2 of their USB-PREs, and they are great. The feature set is great, but no built-in mics. The price is also awesome! -Henry --------------010907000202080302060703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="www.sounddevices.com/products/7.htm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="www.sounddevices.com/products/7.htm" Content-Base: "http://www.sounddevices.com/products/7 .htm" Content-Location: "http://www.sounddevices.com/products/7 .htm" Sound Devices: 7-Series Recorders
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The 7-Series Family

The high-resolution 7-Series family of digital audio recorders shatter the size, performance, and feature-set paradigms of previous generations of audio recorders. They are the next generation—replacing digital and analog tape-based portable recorders with far more powerful file-based digital recording devices. The two-track recorders (702, 702T, 722) and four-track (744T) write and play audio files with either 16 or 24-bit depth at all professional sampling rates, up to 192 kHz.

Audio Inputs

The 7-Series recorders use two channels of Sound Devices next generation, high-resolution analog microphone preamplifiers. Designed specifically for high-bandwidth, high bit-rate digital recording, these preamps set a new standard for linearity, distortion performance, and low-noise gain. Now, only your microphone resolving power limits your recording quality.

Controls

744T lit up - high intensity7-Series recorders are controlled by a fast and intuitive user interface, with easy to access buttons and an informative LCD display and LED metering. All controls can be access on the front panel of the unit. Recording engineers don’t need to learn a new way to work—the 7-Series tape recorder paradigm makes certain that you don’t get distracted in run and gun situations. The learning curve is short. The extensive feature list is very accessible. For more control in fixed cart-based productions an external keyboard can be used to control the recorder with the accessory CL-1 Keyboard and Remote Control Interface.

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Size

With documentary and ENG recording engineers in mind, we kept the recorders as small and lightweight as practical without compromising usability. No other audio recorder approaches their size/performance ratio. Weighing less than 3 pounds and easily fitting in an accessory pouch, you can take your audio recorder to every job, big and small.

Data Storage

The 7-Series recorders write to industry-standard WAV files (with Broadcast Wave Metadata). Audio files are recorded to Compact Flash cards on all recorders and to internal hard drive on the drive-equipped 722 and 744T. Audio files can be transferred via FireWire directly to a Windows PC or Mac OS computer for post-production or archiving. For maximum redundancy, both mediums can be recorded on the 722 and 744T, providing a RAID-1 level of redundancy to recorded program.

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--------------010907000202080302060703-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 00:58:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3634D3BF25; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <04b801c65dcc$27bfca70$5fb3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@com cast.net> Subject: Re: new loop piece Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:58:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 529, in=270933, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Hmmm...your clip miraculously appeared on the Looper's Delight Playlist - http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u :) Kris > Just to give you a concrete example of the sort of melodic, non-noise loop > improvs I tend to do, here's one I recorded last night: > > http://www.gdhour.com/music/UpLate.060410.mp3 > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 01:07:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 104613BF32; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <04b801c65dcc$27bfca70$5fb3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@com cast.net> <04b801c65dcc$27bfca70$5fb3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:04:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: new loop piece Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <8LJmuD.A.jFC.sLFPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:07:57 +0000 (UTC) At 6:58 PM -0600 4/11/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >Hmmm...your clip miraculously appeared on the Looper's Delight >Playlist - http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u Wonder of wonders! Thanks. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 01:28:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB55E3BF36; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:28:25 -0400 From: TonyIsYourPal@netscape.net (Tony Douglas) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to start MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5E647950.08C36431.59DF470E@netscape.net> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 84.64.58.122 X-AOL-Language: english Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi there, "David Kirkdorffer" wrote: [ amongst other things ] >Don't think you need to have definitive answers to these questions, but the answers you > have will point you towards different tools. > Don't forget to think about software loopers - you can try out different ways of looping for not too much cost (assuming you've got a reasonable spec computer to start with, of course). Your software experiments can point towards one particular piece of hardware or another, or you might just decide to stick with the software & a laptop. - Tony __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 01:29:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68B293BF14; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <6E9AF0E5-04FC-49EB-857D-628E2914B0D2@balanceman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: JGoody Subject: gans looper piece Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:30:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:29:25 +0000 (UTC) hey dave: listening to the mp3 you posted. I'm at about the halfway point and things are starting to get crazy! do you have more of this? maybe on CD? maybe you could bring it by when you come to record? good stuff man. really excellent! BTW: I have an EDP+ that I sync up with an MPC drum machine and other toys. . . I also have a spare MIDI cable (hint, hint. . .) JG http://www.balanceman.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 02:04:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24E2C3BF36; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <025801c65dd5$7b283e50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:04:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:04:49 +0000 (UTC) David Gans wrote: "I tried, believe me. But I just wasn't weird enough." Oh, I"m sure you did and sometimes, I agree, we are just not the right thing for a gig and it's good to 'get' it. Although another thought I had about this later was that one of the most enjoyable experimental music gigs I"ve seen in the past year was when our own Ted Killian played with Jeff Kaiser. Ted did an amazing job of providing Jeff with beautiful and relatively inside and consonant background pads that were constantly evolving..................judged alone, they would have fit in with most ambient concerts but the backdrop was exquisite for Jeff's really fascinating and more avanted garde explorations. I have to admit, a lot of new music and experimental music performances leave me cold because they tend to be devoid of contrast other than the: Cliche formula for multiple person free improvs: play disonantly and really sparsely........................(the quiet section) now play disonantly and really fill all the space (the loud part). go back to the disonant, sparse approach until you just stop playing. Of course, there are wonderful free players who avoid these cliches. My wife and I were lucky enough to participate in the longest running free music weekly improv in London a couple of years ago when the fantastic musician Paul Shearsmith took us. we had nothing to play but what people lent us, objects in the room and our voices and there were a good 7 or 8 musicians in a couple of hour improv that never stopped. It was amazing. I wish to hell we had taped it because it was one of the best things I've ever heard or participated in in the free improv scene. D: "That's the ticket. As I've said before, I am a pretty straightforward singer-songwriter type with a passion for loop improv. I'm better off slipping my weirdness into straighter gigs than vice versa." R: I'm with you there. D: "BTW, I played a gig with Joe Rut a couple of months ago. He left all his gear at home and delivered a set of great solo acoustic songs." R: Many, I am impressed with Joe Rut, I have to say. He just seems like someone who really listens and really thinks about his response to everything. I can't wait to see Lucio and him play in Boise in a couple of weeks. That show that had Ted and Jeff on it also featured Lumper/Splitter was really enjoyable that evening too, one of the best 2nd Sundays shows we've had to date. D: I've been playing with Henry off and on since 1988. The last time we played together, on March 9, the set list included Richard Thompson, the Grateful Dead, Bob Dylan, "Spill the Wine" (Eric Burdon and War), and other pop classics. R: Wow, that's incredible. I"m soooo jealous of you. D: There was a gig in 1993 (I think) in which I found myself on stage between Henry and the saxophonist David Murray - two veritable fire hydrants of music - hanging on for dear life. That was a blast! R: Again, what an amazing experience that must have been. D: But I too, feel that I like conventional music too much for the avante garde scene and am too 'out' for the conventional pop world R: I so relate to you. D: We need to find a scene that supports precisely our weirdness quotient! R: Well, funny you should mention it. Are you familiar with AmyXs work? her husband, Herb Heinz's music? Do you know the SF band, Eddy the Rat? Niki Selkin's work? Peter Whitehead's work? eve someone big like the Sleep Time Gorilla Museum. They are all bay area people doing unusual pop music that is decidedly out of the box. I've been thinking that someday I should put together an experimental pop festival here in Santa Cruz and over at an art gallery in San Jose. Would you want to participate? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 02:38:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63EFE3BF3D; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: Scary Situations Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:38:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <_67U5C.A.UNE.YgGPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro wrote about his scary situation: "What else can you do? WHEN YOUR GUEST VOCALIST WON'T LEAVE! " Man, oh man, have I ever been there before, Mark. At one point I got a really lucrative gig ($1000) at one of the 10,000 person Massives that they used to hold in Oakland (and why did those things stop?) I was asked to fill two solid hours in the chill room doing my live looping found sound schtick. It was fabulous, really. It was a large audience that continually turned over and people were really digging that my stuff was so different from what they normally would hear at a Rave. That was until I did a kind of trip hoppy piece and use beatboxing for the groove. A young man walked up to me in the middleof the song as I was juggling the loops (warning sign already) and said. "I dig your beatboxing", I"m a rapper, could I do a piece with you? I thought, well, that's not quite what I intended for the vibe, but I didn't want to appear curmugeonly so I said okay to his request.. Well, he gets on mic and I lay down a beatbox for him to rap over and suddenly and immediately there are ten guys in line behind him waiting for their turn on the mic. I mean this all happened within one minute of me handing him the mic and because my hands were literally full with playing bass, keys and beatboxign and keeping it all together so that it sounded like a professional production I couldn't control it at all. At one point I 'ended' a piece and went over to the line of young men and said, "Thanks a lot, I need to get back to the rest of the show now," and everybody turned on me angrily and one guy said, "Oh man, he got his turn, I want my turn" to a chorus of hostile 'yeahs' from the peanut galler. It was really pretty ugly quickly and I just gave up and beatboxed until the festival leaders aske me to quit playing (half an hour earlier than I was supposed to). The whole vibe was not 'chill' at all and I was never asked back (after having played two or three of them very successfully. Man, oh man, did that make an impression. I, unfortunately, have experienced similar situations a couple of times since then enough to have developed the prejudice that freestyled rappers are the most aggressive and insensitive musicians that I've ever played with. It's a shame because i like the form, and I know a few extremely good freestylers but even they do not seem to know when to do their thing and when to give it a rest. For some reason damned reason, even people with little or no experience or little or no talent will aggressively try to get onstage with you. Can you imagine a trumpet player or violinist with the same amount of experience going up to an accomplished musician and aggressively asking to sit in for the DURATION of a performance. ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH! I regretfully have a 'no rapper' policy for my live improv shows. It's just not worth the risk. I also have discoverd, too, that anyone who is a sensitive and accomplished musician will seek you out ahead of your show and ask to sit in. I've pretty much decided that it has to be David Torn or David Sylian or Jah Wobble who asks me in the middle of playing for me to say 'yes' to them. If someone is insensitive enough and pushy enough to come up right in the middle of a show it's an automatic 'no' reply from me now....................and I love to improvisize with people, but you just gotta have your standards. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 04:32:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10BDA3BF3A; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6E9AF0E5-04FC-49EB-857D-628E2914B0D2@balanceman.com> References: <6E9AF0E5-04FC-49EB-857D-628E2914B0D2@balanceman.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:28:34 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: gans looper piece Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <1FWeQ.A.pPH.ULIPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:32:21 +0000 (UTC) At 6:30 PM -0700 4/11/06, JGoody wrote: >hey dave: >listening to the mp3 you posted. I'm at about the halfway point and >things are starting to get crazy! >do you have more of this? maybe on CD? maybe you could bring it by >when you come to record? >good stuff man. >really excellent! Thanks! I've got one more piece on my web site: http://www.gdhour.com/music/dawnsearlylight.mp3 And yeah, some more on CD. I'll bring 'em over next week. >BTW: >I have an EDP+ that I sync up with an MPC drum machine and other toys. . . >I also have a spare MIDI cable (hint, hint. . .) Hm, two EDPs in sync. Could have some interesting possibilities! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 04:42:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE4C93BF3A; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <025801c65dd5$7b283e50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <025801c65dd5$7b283e50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:33:23 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: BAY AREA new music scene Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:42:06 +0000 (UTC) At 7:04 PM -0700 4/11/06, loop.pool wrote: >D: There was a gig in 1993 (I think) in which I found myself on stage >between Henry and the saxophonist David Murray - two veritable fire >hydrants of music - hanging on for dear life. That was a blast! > >R: Again, what an amazing experience that must have been. I've got it on CD. if anyone would like a copy, email me your address and I'll burn you one. >D: We need to find a scene that supports precisely our weirdness quotient! > >R: Well, funny you should mention it. > >Are you familiar with AmyXs work? her husband, Herb Heinz's music? >Do you know the SF band, Eddy the Rat? Niki Selkin's work? Peter >Whitehead's work? eve someone big like the Sleep Time Gorilla >Museum. > >They are all bay area people doing unusual pop music that is >decidedly out of the box. I know nothing of these artists. I will look for 'em. Do you know Mushroom? I have their most recent CD and like it a lot. It feels to me like pretty improvisational stuff, but I could be wrong. >I've been thinking that someday I should put together an >experimental pop festival here in Santa Cruz and over at an art >gallery >in San Jose. Would you want to participate? Sure! If you don't mind having a sort of country-folk songwriter with loops in the middle of it. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 04:47:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4237E3BF42; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Tw0WoxtKa4IYqScrpSgQWy/mhpaj1POPK58/wonovX+4eM6wVyk8hc6r1TvvhWmunH/F9GWs/kzIP8AgSAeNOndQZVk8JS6fR3NFuglwBdhDHSCAukYDi0zkmWcI+94A+GUGn2q22xoNS7jvEnI2wOrDbY2LVJwj5rgYioHj5CM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:47:52 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Who's got the most EDP's (lamest topic ever) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:47:54 +0000 (UTC) lets here it! and how do you use them all? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 05:03:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D3233BF47; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fecETqPTN/zp0GymjkSdmJvOKlbGMeVQt13Sc4nY4jagHD0jiYzNtK7fuAgP9F0TxAnnvDJVsnSK4hurV7IPR5K/gX1rFcIs8sYsHDQ5lkwXmu1zSXeQOSDeiRReKXQ0ZIqe9G8MEg7RdgB/NefjFxl7pS+kh5S+e1SIcDcLAkw= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:03:34 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP Setup idea (tips please) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <8eihvC.A.PZ.noIPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Ok can someone help me think this through. Right now I got 1 EDP and Gibson controller. Its tons of fun, been using it for about a year and a half now. Thinking about expanding to two EDP's and a FCB1010. The 2nd EDP would be used primarily for smooth transitions of loops (one loop fading out as the new loop is being created) as well as some other ideas I got going. Who is currently doing this (not stereo EDP setup but two independant EDP's. I would like to operate the units with the same foot controller (FCB 1010). What is the best way to do this. Also I am assuming a spillter is the best way to split the audio signal. Now is it possible to be able to hit a button or something to make the EDP's sych or not. Can I assign it through midi to the FCB1010? I want the option to have the EDP's in synch or not depending on what I am doing. Also those of you with expierenced on a two EDP setup how do you like it? Is brother synch pretty solid? It seems to me that a 2nd EDP really opens up some new doors for what can be done with looping.=20 thanks for your help in advance! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 05:38:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6B2B3BF45; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:38:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:38:07 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: Re: solid state recorders To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <443C923F.1080204@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) Resent-Message-ID: <26eK_B.A.91.JJJPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:38:17 +0000 (UTC) >> Henry Heine wrote: >> I've had the Marantz PMD660 since July 2005, and it works ok, BUT: >> The on board mics sound good, but it's very sensitive and there is no pad and no limiter. Unuseable for live music recording, at least the kind of SPLs that I play. >> The xlr mic inputs are nice, but no pads and no limiter. arrgghhhh. See above. Just received mine, and haven't tried recording a rehearsal yet. When you turn off the automatic level control there is indeed a -20 db pad setting for the external mic and the volume control for the built in mics seems to attenuate pretty well. Could there be different firmware versions on our two units? I may have a better perspective later in the week... Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 12:06:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6FB93BF3A; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:03:58 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: Scary Situations X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J503a.5269S.3c35M" Message-Id: <20060412.050444.7875.702458@webmail49.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:1:1707358702 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5NNhI2q5cX6z486t+2MkvYXoVQwoVqsL2w== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.189|webmail49.nyc.untd.com|webmail49.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:06:07 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J503a.5269S.3c35M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain I too had an experience with a local musician known as Black Diamond. H= e is a local guy who sings Neil Diamond songs and he is black. He's don= e fairly well locally and was trying to make it national last I heard bu= t the guy would come in on a gig and ask to sing one song. It wasn't ou= r show but the audience seemed to like one or two but the guy would not = get off the stage once he got on and at some point even the audience wou= ld turn. The first time he did this with us we allowed one song, seem t= o go over, the second time two or three, the last time I had to ask him= to leave as the audience started booing ND songs.... It's is defintely= a bad situation that a band leader needs to keep under control. I had = a similar experience letting people come up and sit in with the band. I= learned to stop doing that.... = Best list ever! Weg ----__JWM__J503a.5269S.3c35M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

I too had an experience with a local musician known as Black Di= amond.  He is a local guy who sings Neil Diamond songs and he is bl= ack.  He's done fairly well locally and was trying to make it = national last I heard but the guy would come in on a gig and ask to sing= one song.  It wasn't our show but the audience seemed to like one = or two but the guy would not get off the stage once he got on and at som= e point even the audience would turn.  The first time he did this w= ith us we allowed one song, seem to go over, the second time two or thre= e,  the last time I had to ask him to leave as the audience st= arted booing ND songs....  It's is defintely a bad situation that a= band leader needs to keep under control.  I had a similar experien= ce letting people come up and sit in with the band.  I learned to s= top doing that....

 

Best list ever!

Weg

----__JWM__J503a.5269S.3c35M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 13:08:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 799853BF39; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6137973.1144847292065.JavaMail.root@web30> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 6:08:12 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who's got the most EDP's (lamest topic ever) Cc: mark t MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Also, please provide your address and what time you go to work. Hehehe. -- Paul Richards ---- mark t wrote: > lets here it! and how do you use them all? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 13:11:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 388803BF48; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <17601073.1144847484842.JavaMail.root@web30> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 6:11:24 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: Scary Situations Cc: "loop.pool" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:11:26 +0000 (UTC) << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> Sounds like most rappers to me. :) -- Paul Richards ---- "loop.pool" wrote: > Mark Sottilaro wrote about his scary situation: > > "What else can you do? WHEN YOUR GUEST > VOCALIST WON'T LEAVE! " > > Man, oh man, have I ever been there before, Mark. > > > At one point I got a really lucrative gig ($1000) at one of the 10,000 > person Massives > that they used to hold in Oakland (and why did those things stop?) > > I was asked to fill two solid hours in the chill room doing my live looping > found sound schtick. > > It was fabulous, really. It was a large audience that continually turned > over and people were really digging > that my stuff was so different from what they normally would hear at a Rave. > > That was until I did a kind of trip hoppy piece and use beatboxing for the > groove. > > A young man walked up to me in the middleof the song as I was juggling the > loops (warning sign already) > and said. "I dig your beatboxing", I"m a rapper, could I do a piece > with you? > I thought, well, that's not quite what I intended for the vibe, but I > didn't want to appear curmugeonly > so I said okay to his request.. > > Well, he gets on mic and I lay down a beatbox for him to rap over and > suddenly and immediately > there are ten guys in line behind him waiting for their turn on the mic. > > I mean this all happened within one minute of me handing him the mic and > because my hands were literally full > with playing bass, keys and beatboxign and keeping it all together so that > it sounded like a professional > production I couldn't control it at all. > > At one point I 'ended' a piece and went over to the line of young men and > said, "Thanks a lot, I need to get back to the rest of the show now," > and everybody turned on me angrily and one guy said, "Oh man, he got his > turn, I want my turn" to a chorus > of hostile 'yeahs' from the peanut galler. > > It was really pretty ugly quickly and I just gave up and beatboxed until > the festival leaders aske me to quit playing (half an hour earlier than I > was supposed to). The whole vibe was not 'chill' at all and I was never > asked back (after having played two or three of them very successfully. > > Man, oh man, did that make an impression. > > I, unfortunately, have experienced similar situations a couple of times > since then enough to have developed the prejudice that freestyled rappers > are the most aggressive and insensitive musicians that I've ever played > with. It's a shame because i like the form, and I know a few extremely > good freestylers but even they do not seem to know when to do their thing > and when to give it a rest. For some reason damned reason, even people > with little or no experience or little or no talent will aggressively try to > get onstage with you. Can you imagine a trumpet player or violinist with > the same amount of experience going up to an accomplished musician and > aggressively asking to sit in for the DURATION of a performance. > > ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH! > > I regretfully have a 'no rapper' policy for my live improv shows. It's > just not worth the risk. > I also have discoverd, too, that anyone who is a sensitive and accomplished > musician will seek you out ahead of your show > and ask to sit in. I've pretty much decided that it has to be David Torn > or David Sylian or Jah Wobble who asks me in the middle of playing for me to > say 'yes' to them. If someone is insensitive enough and pushy enough > to come up right in the middle of a show it's an automatic 'no' reply from > me now....................and I love to improvisize with people, but you > just gotta have your standards. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 13:14:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C2D73BF54; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F Subject: re: Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:14:04 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/12/2006 09:14:37 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 682222801W81290360-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:14:17 +0000 (UTC) << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> Sounds like most rappers to me. :) Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance folks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 13:52:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D274E3BF4E; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <18802988.1144849958275.JavaMail.root@web30> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 6:52:38 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: Scary Situations Cc: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:52:39 +0000 (UTC) You mean your use of English? :) -- Paul Richards ---- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> > > Sounds like most rappers to me. :) > > > > Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance folks. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from > disclosure. 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If you have received this communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 13:56:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 830B23BF43; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F Subject: re: Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:56:17 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/12/2006 09:56:51 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6823D97A1W81309043-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Yes I mean my use of English. ::rolls eyes:: Sorry, I got somewhat riled up & actually revised the email a couple of times & didn't edit properly. Then again, this being the internet, I'd rather have my email gramatically incorrect than musically ignorant, I suppose. paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 04/12/2006 09:52 AM cc: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com Please respond to Subject: re: Scary Situations Loopers-Delight You mean your use of English? :) -- Paul Richards ---- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> > > Sounds like most rappers to me. :) > > > > Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance folks. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from > disclosure. 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 13:59:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 588D33BF55; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6768664.1144850379014.JavaMail.root@web30> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 6:59:39 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: Scary Situations Cc: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <_E6UaB.A.XqH.LfQPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:59:40 +0000 (UTC) I know there's a lot of good rap music out there. I like Rza's stuff myself. -- Paul Richards ---- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Yes I mean my use of English. ::rolls eyes:: > > Sorry, I got somewhat riled up & actually revised the email a couple of > times & didn't edit properly. Then again, this being the internet, I'd > rather have my email gramatically incorrect than musically ignorant, I > suppose. > > > > > > > paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > 04/12/2006 09:52 AM cc: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com > Please respond to Subject: re: Scary Situations > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > > You mean your use of English? :) > > -- > Paul Richards > > ---- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > > << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> > > > > Sounds like most rappers to me. :) > > > > > > > > Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance folks. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the > use > > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt > from > > disclosure. 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If you have received this communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 14:51:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C4AC3BF59; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C5Z53FyLAV6d0WGQtfcoSPD3hpzqjqLFNM8xlD4YXPWrH1OPi+9EZSveXr5EY3W/omTdnxLmjK9BIzMkbsMwUwZNvQgeqDmEmfLoKcI0IeyTrjv385T5kcC0fm7wLLQrPNV8Jx4ZAThLVonj2x1ZCjU+aFMeVEYEfHLBOdpWWB4= ; Message-ID: <20060412145117.84844.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:51:17 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: andy butlers's cd/ & LD #3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060412044207.4D3613BF41@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1944048142-1144853477=:84493" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:51:18 +0000 (UTC) --0-1944048142-1144853477=:84493 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit oh, forgot to say that i got Andy butlers' looping cd and have been listening to it. some nice stuff on there. i'm always amazed at what folks can do in a live setting w/ all the sounds etc... he was also kind enough to send me the loopers delight sampler #3 ....must say that there are some interesting things on there too. a wide range of looping examples. some inspiring stuff our looping community is doing out there.... s--- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! 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oh, forgot to say that i got Andy butlers' looping cd and have been listening to it.
some nice stuff on there. i'm always amazed at what folks can do in a live setting w/ all the sounds etc...
he was also kind enough to send me the loopers delight sampler #3 ....must say that there are some interesting things on there too. a wide range of looping examples.
some inspiring stuff our looping community is doing out there....
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Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --0-1944048142-1144853477=:84493-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 15:08:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E3BC3BF5F; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <59098.67.175.52.76.1144854519.squirrel@mail.bagend.com> In-Reply-To: <443C923F.1080204@Verizon.net> References: <443C923F.1080204@Verizon.net> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:08:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Marantz PMD660 -was: solid state recorders From: "Henry Heine" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 [CVS]-0.cvs20050812.1.fc3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Right! There are 20 dB pads, but they seem to be AFTER the mic pre! You'll see what I mean: It allows you to reduce the level of the fully distorted track. This thing needs analog pads right in front of the mic pre. duh! Tell me what you think after you've tried it a few times. -Henry > >> The xlr mic inputs are nice, but no pads and no limiter. arrgghhhh. > See above. > > Just received mine, and haven't tried recording a rehearsal yet. When > you turn off the automatic level control there is indeed a -20 db pad > setting for the external mic and the volume control for the built in > mics seems to attenuate pretty well. Could there be different firmware > versions on our two units? > > I may have a better perspective later in the week... > > Dan Ash > White Plains, NY > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 15:11:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A31BE3BF5B; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <18802988.1144849958275.JavaMail.root@web30> References: <18802988.1144849958275.JavaMail.root@web30> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--956240581 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Scary Situations Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:11:23 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:11:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--956240581 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Now gentlemen... As with all music, some rap (pop, folk, experimental, classical, rock etc) sucks and some is brilliant. Our job is to make OUR music brilliant and not worry too much about what's not... and to learn from what is. It's a full time job. peace richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 12-Apr-06, at 6:52 AM, paulrichard10@adelphia.net wrote: > You mean your use of English? :) > > -- > Paul Richards > > ---- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: >> << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> >> >> Sounds like most rappers to me. :) >> >> >> >> Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance folks. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----- >> This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for >> the use >> of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt >> from >> disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified >> that >> any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is >> strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in >> error, >> please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----- >> >> > --Apple-Mail-4--956240581 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Now gentlemen... As with all music, some rap (pop, folk, experimental, classical, rock etc) sucks and some is brilliant. Our job is to make OUR music brilliant and not worry too much about what's not... and to learn from what is. It's a full time job. peace Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 12-Apr-06, at 6:52 AM, paulrichard10@adelphia.net wrote: You mean your use of English? :) -- Paul Richards ---- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: <<<< people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> Sounds like most rappers to me. :) Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance folks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Apple-Mail-4--956240581-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 15:19:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C0603BF55; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rT7/+I9XSN+cb6xMMqLUueveyf7vheWYss0yOoGLM2PZoI/3l+YStZMQZbYRms/ikx2fYLq66hB6FumxhlWP7xc0q2uAxMKH4meGV3cD+C+SNbvcgnalKAKYqW0iH3Wi2C2s/V3xI+LXqxnalUIX8P9lUeMGFfHDoNOAFl7hThA= ; Message-ID: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:19:31 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open mic.... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060412044207.4D3613BF41@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2117067146-1144855171=:30294" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:19:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-2117067146-1144855171=:30294 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit well, inspired by all the posts of people who talked about their live performance over the last 5 yrs (yes, it took me 5 yrs), i decided to try an open mic night and attempt to play a few of my "singer-songwriter/folk" songs (sorry for slight OT). even though i teach college art (drawing/pntg/art apprec) and have to lecture, i would not say that i'm a real outgoing individual, was very shy during most of my public school days, hated speeches in college...but then for some strange reason back in '98 started writing songs, etc....around 01-02 thought about trying to play them live, and practiced them and recorded them (ad infinitum, working on recording etc-endless problems), finally decided after so many yrs of worrying, fear,to just bite the bullet. that happened monday nite, 4-10 at the open mic at the mill restaurant in iowa city. i was nervous, but remembered being more nervous for speeches in college. i had practiced my stuff over the last 2 weeks, got my rudimentary tools together..... i even debated doing a bit of looping, brought my new digitech digitdelay, but in the end worried about all other things and being my 1st time, decided to not hook it up. played my 8 songs in 25 minutes, and thought i did ok-i figured everyone there would be too into their bar thing so no pressure. i definately learned a lot of things in that 25 min, like boy those 2 spot lights are HOT, and BRING WATER (my throat was killing me after the 3rd song). my wife asked me if i could tell people were watching/listening, and i would say: i don't know, i really couldn't see due to the spot lights (it is very weird) and i really couldn't hear what my guitar or voice sounded like due to my inexperience w/ monitors. the girl who played after me (who is on a national tour for an album) asked for the voice to be punched up in the monitors, and who i should add was very good. i should say that for the most part my tools served me well. my 100$ hohner guitar stayed in tune and performed great (i had the cheapest guitar there by far), the seymour duncan single coil woody pu didn't do great, there was some hum, but the guitar did sound pretty good. since i have songs in 2 different tunings and was afraid of tuning onstage i brought my parker nitefly for the standard tuning stuff w/ its piezo (acoustic like sounds), i couldn't really hear it from the stage, and i made some mistakes of not playing it as much as i should have, and 9's are probably too thin for live stuff-strumming wise (i hit some klunkers). i listened to the live recording the guy who organizes the event made yesterday, and thought i sounded ok. the one thing i was proud of was i didn't forget any lyrics to any of my songs. could tell 1/2 way through i needed water. my timing was a bit rushed (& i will say my timing is for sh*t), but overall, i did ok, survived, and no one died.....sorry for the long post....next time i do it, i will stick w/ my original intent and when i change tunings, will do a li'l loop thing to fill air/space... just wanted to thank all for their live post reports that inspired me..... s--- --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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well, inspired by all the posts of people who talked about their live performance over
the last 5 yrs (yes, it took me 5 yrs), i decided to try an open mic night and attempt to play a few of my "singer-songwriter/folk" songs (sorry for slight OT).
even though i teach college art (drawing/pntg/art apprec) and have to lecture, i would not say that i'm a real outgoing individual, was very shy during most of my public school days, hated speeches in college...but then for some strange reason back in '98 started writing songs, etc....around 01-02 thought about trying to play them live, and practiced them and recorded them (ad infinitum, working on recording etc-endless problems), finally decided after so many yrs of worrying, fear,to just bite the bullet. that happened monday nite, 4-10 at the open mic at the mill restaurant in iowa city. i was nervous, but remembered being more nervous for speeches in college. i had practiced my stuff over the last 2 weeks, got my rudimentary tools together.....
i even debated doing a bit of looping, brought my new digitech  digitdelay, but in the end worried about all other things and being my 1st time, decided to not hook it up. played my 8 songs in 25 minutes, and thought i did ok-i figured everyone there would be too into their bar thing so no pressure. i definately learned a lot of things in that 25 min, like boy those 2 spot lights are HOT, and BRING WATER (my throat was killing me after the 3rd song). my wife asked me if i could tell people were watching/listening, and i would say: i don't know, i really couldn't see due to the spot lights (it is very weird) and i really couldn't hear what my guitar or voice sounded like due to my inexperience w/ monitors. the girl who played after me (who is on a national tour for an album) asked for the voice to be punched up in the monitors, and who i should add was very good. i should say that for the most part my tools served me well. my 100$ hohner guitar stayed in tune and performed great (i had the cheapest guitar there by far), the seymour duncan single coil woody pu didn't do great, there was some hum, but the guitar did sound pretty good. since i have songs in 2 different tunings and was afraid of tuning onstage i brought my parker nitefly for the standard tuning stuff w/ its piezo (acoustic like sounds), i couldn't really hear it from the stage, and i made some mistakes of not playing it as much as i should have, and 9's are probably too thin for live stuff-strumming wise (i hit some klunkers). i listened to the live recording the guy who organizes the event made yesterday, and thought i sounded ok. the one thing i was proud of was i didn't forget any lyrics to any of my songs.  could tell 1/2 way through i needed water. my timing was a bit rushed (& i will say my timing is for sh*t), but overall, i did ok, survived, and no one died.....sorry for the long post....next time i do it, i will stick w/ my original intent and when i change tunings, will do a li'l loop thing to fill air/space...
just wanted to thank all for their live post reports that inspired me.....
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PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. --0-2117067146-1144855171=:30294-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 15:24:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB3AD3BF5A; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060412081706.01a6b7b0@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:25:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: re: Scary Situations In-Reply-To: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:24:47 +0000 (UTC) >Mark Sottilaro wrote about his scary situation: >"What else can you do? WHEN YOUR GUEST VOCALIST WON'T LEAVE! " Hehe. Guest vocalist is nothing, man. With a vocalist you can always cut his mic. Or take a break and return with a large dishwasher to help your new friend find his way off the stage. How about a drunken strolling band with bagpipes, snare drum and didj that parks itself in front of the stage and drives your healthy St Patrick's Day audience out into the street? It's become a recurring theme for my band on St Pat's Day at my local and my suggestion that they leave year by year is gradually escalating. Next year I may grab a mic stand and wade in... :-) Cheers, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 15:37:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 834033BF66; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Who's got the most EDP's (lamest topic ever) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:37:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C03BA46@keel.sailpoint.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Who's got the most EDP's (lamest topic ever) Thread-Index: AcZd7ENsokMHQiwvSIO9pdXqar2iJgAWgk6Q From: "jeff larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:37:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: mark t [mailto:aleatoric12@gmail.com]=20 >=20 > lets here it! and how do you use them all? Hmm, well let's just say I have virtually as many as I care to :-) The question could be answered in two ways: what can you do specifically with several EDP's and what can you do in general with many loopers. =20 I can describe some of the techniques I fart around with though there are people on this list with *far* more experience in such things: - Layer Remixing Rather than overdubbing layers into a single loop, overdub layers into different synchronized loopers. This gives you the flexibility to remix the layers, changing levels and pan, mute and solo them, put them in and out of phase, etc. - Bounce Recording Start a performance in one or more loopers while recording the result in another. Then silence the source loopers, transfer too the bounced loop and begin mutating it. This allows you to capture real-time performance techniques like loop triggering, pan sweeps, reverse, speed, and pitch changes,=20 etc. that are not recorded by the feedback loop of a=20 single looper. - Phase Accurate Surround Here the loopers are synchronized with sample accuracy so that they can record and loop a multi-channel surround signal. Like brother syncing two EDP's for stereo only with 4 or more channels. - Independent Channel Surround Here the loopers contain independent signals, but they may be synchronized at the "beat" level and placed in a different location in the surround field. From what I understand this is the approach Andre was taking. Ah, so much potential, so little musical ability. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 15:40:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B6CA3BF64; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:35:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open mic.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:40:25 +0000 (UTC) At 8:19 AM -0700 4/12/06, scott hansen wrote: >the last 5 yrs (yes, it took me 5 yrs), i decided to try an open mic >night and attempt to play a few of my "singer-songwriter/folk" songs >(sorry for slight OT). Congratulations on getting out there, Scott. First time is always scary, but it sounds like you did okay. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 15:48:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63B363BF75; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--954024442 Message-Id: <582f0020c669f44688ad782ecc2947d9@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open mic.... Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:48:20 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:48:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--954024442 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Paul McCartney is known to have puked before gigs in the early days. The only cure is to play out a lot. Then you start to notice that all the gods in the audience are only people... or gods disguised as people... just like you. I wish I could have been there Scott. I bet you were great. Encore! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 12-Apr-06, at 8:35 AM, David Gans wrote: > At 8:19 AM -0700 4/12/06, scott hansen wrote: >> the last 5 yrs (yes, it took me 5 yrs), i decided to try an open mic >> night and attempt to play a few of my "singer-songwriter/folk" songs >> (sorry for slight OT). > > Congratulations on getting out there, Scott. First time is always > scary, but it sounds like you did okay. > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > --Apple-Mail-6--954024442 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Paul McCartney is known to have puked before gigs in the early days. The only cure is to play out a lot. Then you start to notice that all the gods in the audience are only people... or gods disguised as people... just like you. I wish I could have been there Scott. I bet you were great. Encore! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 12-Apr-06, at 8:35 AM, David Gans wrote: At 8:19 AM -0700 4/12/06, scott hansen wrote: the last 5 yrs (yes, it took me 5 yrs), i decided to try an open mic night and attempt to play a few of my "singer-songwriter/folk" songs (sorry for slight OT). Congratulations on getting out there, Scott. First time is always scary, but it sounds like you did okay. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com --Apple-Mail-6--954024442-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 15:56:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E36E3BF7E; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G17FVo8jRuQRTaCIOQeD6NufJh4be/WUQjg3pMEbLn3rJspOFeySfMO5dASiYSCZa/6H5puCiUZVtCoCMhUsZj7pVUq2YMXwN/LV6poM6++AiAsIqVV909BLp+l2p6nkcjwrtmW3147Ieht5Ezdc+cHBPAWEaRbrV9IYbdTKikQ= Message-ID: <588ce11d0604120856j67d9c655n45a3fbbab99c5ebb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:56:09 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who's got the most EDP's (lamest topic ever) In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C03BA46@keel.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C03BA46@keel.sailpoint.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:56:11 +0000 (UTC) On 4/12/06, jeff larson wrote: > > Ah, so much potential, so little musical ability. > > Jeff As another player of ability that could be charitably described as "moderate", it seems to me that looping often works well with simple ideas and phrases. Fast and complex playing doesn't usually loop well. It's kind of like distortion on a guitar--complexity gets lost in the noise, but simpler things can sound more interesting because of the harmonic complexity that distortion (or looping) adds. So, no apologies, there are some truly inspired ideas in your post. It's the ability to think to makes truly great musicians, not virtuosity IMHO. -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 15:58:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DED13BF80; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e901c65e49$f5805650$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Scary Situations Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:58:35 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:58:49 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2006 14:14 PM Subject: re: Scary Situations > << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> > > Sounds like most rappers to me. :) > > > > Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance folks. What're hip hop ignorance folks, and how does one become one? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 16:04:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8A443BF86; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F Subject: Re: Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:04:27 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/12/2006 12:05:01 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6823FB701W81369773-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:04:44 +0000 (UTC) 'Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance, folks.' Everyone understand what I meant now? This is not rocket science. You know, I usually find that people who concentrate on spelling/grammatical errors in emails are generally missing the larger point- in this case, the idea that most rappers have no talent or experience. But feel free to continue to point out the grammatical errors I've already admitted, I'm sure people will find it interesting. "Stephen Goodman" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: 04/12/2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Scary Situations Please respond to Loopers-Delight ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2006 14:14 PM Subject: re: Scary Situations > << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> > > Sounds like most rappers to me. :) > > > > Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance folks. 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 16:10:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5606F3BF71; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tbdTJxTv1sJxRXKFAgbseNr8h/F2Z06o44u0FEMSwWeBZsDuqEIpkGbfRdY6NbitMuJ+p2heyX7AlNFLA+UqQuVq1+FwIzMUeIvVL8SBoj1WqrM9zKPf3O8JcVj4BnI5VkFS5vlWPk/OtjrIVZNSw+0PZnPTj8BomKRKHco0DZA= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:10:13 -0500 From: "Jon Southwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open mic.... In-Reply-To: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060412044207.4D3613BF41@arsenic.violacea.com> <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Dang, Scott. I wish I'd known, I'd have definitely been there. You'll have to announce *before* you do it next time. Congrats! It's a big step. On 4/12/06, scott hansen wrote: > definately learned a lot of things in that 25 min, like boy those 2 spot > lights are HOT, and BRING WATER (my throat was killing me after the 3rd > song). my wife asked me if i could tell people were watching/listening, a= nd True dat. My Celtic Folk band plays there frequently and hydration is one of our biggest challenges. It's even hotter up there when you cram 6 people onto a stage built for 3 or 4. > performed great (i had the cheapest guitar there by far), the seymour dun= can > single coil woody pu didn't do great, there was some hum, but the guitar = did > sound pretty good. since i have songs in 2 different tunings and was afra= id I wouldn't totally blame the SD pickup. We've had issues with their system that we've not experienced elsewhere. We did one show where if I stepped in a certain place on the stage, there was a loud pop that blasted through the system. Made for an uncomfortable set when I had to stand verrrry still for the remainder of it. It has improved recently, though. Again, Scott, you'll have to announce *beforehand* next time so I can help add another 'friendly' to the audience. Cheers, Jon Southwood From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 17:07:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1BE53BF71; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAACjLPESIVyw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060412175827.02decc10@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:07:11 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re:Marantz PMD660 -was: solid state recorders In-Reply-To: <20060412151933.7A0983BF63@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060412151933.7A0983BF63@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:07:28 +0000 (UTC) >Right! There are 20 dB pads, but they seem to be AFTER the mic pre! >You'll see what I mean: It allows you to reduce the level of the fully >distorted track. > >This thing needs analog pads right in front of the mic pre. duh! http://www.uneeda-audio.com/pads/ make your own. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 17:29:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 610873BF70; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20060412132855.u3dvez18kxwgooww@www.michaelplishka.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:28:55 -0400 From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open mic.... References: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 502] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Way to go Scott!! Just keep playing out, it becomes easier. Good move in not introducing the looping first time around. THis past Saturday I had a situation where my cool mellow percussive looping that was supposed to kick into reverse to lead into the next song took quite a different turn when the sound person made an on the fly tweak to the monitors which ended up with a bass rumble that got picked up by my in-guitar mic and thus was unceremoniously placed into the loop. What started out mellow ended up sounding very hendrix-esque and I had to totally change the arrangement so I could glide into the second song more cleanly. People thought it was cool and different and didn't even realize how much more I was improvising than I intended to. Was an interesting experience and definitely what makes playing live looping interesting and fun. Buuut...If that had been my first time out ever with a looper and something like that happened 3 minutes into a song, I may have been a wee bit more intimidated the next time out.;-) Rock on Brother!! ~peace~ Michael www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka Quoting scott hansen : > well, inspired by all the posts of people who talked about their live > performance over > the last 5 yrs (yes, it took me 5 yrs), i decided to try an open mic > night and attempt to play a few of my "singer-songwriter/folk" songs > (sorry for slight OT). > even though i teach college art (drawing/pntg/art apprec) and have > to lecture, i would not say that i'm a real outgoing individual, was > very shy during most of my public school days, hated speeches in > college...but then for some strange reason back in '98 started > writing songs, etc....around 01-02 thought about trying to play them > live, and practiced them and recorded them (ad infinitum, working on > recording etc-endless problems), finally decided after so many yrs of > worrying, fear,to just bite the bullet. that happened monday nite, > 4-10 at the open mic at the mill restaurant in iowa city. i was > nervous, but remembered being more nervous for speeches in college. i > had practiced my stuff over the last 2 weeks, got my rudimentary > tools together..... > i even debated doing a bit of looping, brought my new digitech > digitdelay, but in the end worried about all other things and being > my 1st time, decided to not hook it up. played my 8 songs in 25 > minutes, and thought i did ok-i figured everyone there would be too > into their bar thing so no pressure. i definately learned a lot of > things in that 25 min, like boy those 2 spot lights are HOT, and > BRING WATER (my throat was killing me after the 3rd song). my wife > asked me if i could tell people were watching/listening, and i would > say: i don't know, i really couldn't see due to the spot lights (it > is very weird) and i really couldn't hear what my guitar or voice > sounded like due to my inexperience w/ monitors. the girl who played > after me (who is on a national tour for an album) asked for the voice > to be punched up in the monitors, and who i should add was very good. > i should say that for the most part my tools served me well. my 100$ > hohner guitar stayed in tune and performed > great (i had the cheapest guitar there by far), the seymour duncan > single coil woody pu didn't do great, there was some hum, but the > guitar did sound pretty good. since i have songs in 2 different > tunings and was afraid of tuning onstage i brought my parker nitefly > for the standard tuning stuff w/ its piezo (acoustic like sounds), i > couldn't really hear it from the stage, and i made some mistakes of > not playing it as much as i should have, and 9's are probably too > thin for live stuff-strumming wise (i hit some klunkers). i listened > to the live recording the guy who organizes the event made yesterday, > and thought i sounded ok. the one thing i was proud of was i didn't > forget any lyrics to any of my songs. could tell 1/2 way through i > needed water. my timing was a bit rushed (& i will say my timing is > for sh*t), but overall, i did ok, survived, and no one died.....sorry > for the long post....next time i do it, i will stick w/ my original > intent and when i change tunings, > will do a li'l loop thing to fill air/space... > just wanted to thank all for their live post reports that inspired me..... > s--- > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 17:52:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B9503BF67; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1427.128.193.37.212.1144864337.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <20060412132855.u3dvez18kxwgooww@www.michaelplishka.com> References: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060412132855.u3dvez18kxwgooww@www.michaelplishka.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open mic.... From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Congratulations on your first time playing out. You were smart to keep it simple. After years of experience, I have a basic rule that I almost never violate: "Never introduce more than one new thing at each gig." The "thing" could be a piece of gear or it could be a new technique. That way I only have to worry about one thing blowing up in a totally unexpected way. Everything else I've probably dealt with before or at least I know the thing well enough to deal with it without thinking too much. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 18:00:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53BF53BF72; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004c01c65e5a$fe7c62b0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open mic.... Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:00:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C65E6B.C1CBFA40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2006 17:59:13.0538 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEBFC620:01C65E5A] Resent-Message-ID: <_QSitB.A.xyB.FBUPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:00:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C65E6B.C1CBFA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott, a few day ago, there was a post about the perception of the live experience, by the musician point of view In my experience, recording is the best way to=20 discover what "really" happenned during the live experience. Good luck ! Fabio Anile http://xoomer.virgilio.it/eterogeneo/ http://music.download.com/eterogeneo/3600-8357-100294444.html?tag=3Dquick= url ----- Original Message -----=20 From: scott hansen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:19 PM Subject: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open = mic.... well, inspired by all the posts of people who talked about their live = performance over the last 5 yrs (yes, it took me 5 yrs), i decided to try an open mic = night and attempt to play a few of my "singer-songwriter/folk" songs = (sorry for slight OT). even though i teach college art (drawing/pntg/art apprec) and have to = lecture, i would not say that i'm a real outgoing individual, was very = shy during most of my public school days, hated speeches in = college...but then for some strange reason back in '98 started writing = songs, etc....around 01-02 thought about trying to play them live, and = practiced them and recorded them (ad infinitum, working on recording = etc-endless problems), finally decided after so many yrs of worrying, = fear,to just bite the bullet. that happened monday nite, 4-10 at the = open mic at the mill restaurant in iowa city. i was nervous, but = remembered being more nervous for speeches in college. i had practiced = my stuff over the last 2 weeks, got my rudimentary tools together..... i even debated doing a bit of looping, brought my new digitech = digitdelay, but in the end worried about all other things and being my = 1st time, decided to not hook it up. played my 8 songs in 25 minutes, = and thought i did ok-i figured everyone there would be too into their = bar thing so no pressure. i definately learned a lot of things in that = 25 min, like boy those 2 spot lights are HOT, and BRING WATER (my throat = was killing me after the 3rd song). my wife asked me if i could tell = people were watching/listening, and i would say: i don't know, i really = couldn't see due to the spot lights (it is very weird) and i really = couldn't hear what my guitar or voice sounded like due to my = inexperience w/ monitors. the girl who played after me (who is on a = national tour for an album) asked for the voice to be punched up in the = monitors, and who i should add was very good. i should say that for the = most part my tools served me well. my 100$ hohner guitar stayed in tune = and performed great (i had the cheapest guitar there by far), the = seymour duncan single coil woody pu didn't do great, there was some hum, = but the guitar did sound pretty good. since i have songs in 2 different = tunings and was afraid of tuning onstage i brought my parker nitefly for = the standard tuning stuff w/ its piezo (acoustic like sounds), i = couldn't really hear it from the stage, and i made some mistakes of not = playing it as much as i should have, and 9's are probably too thin for = live stuff-strumming wise (i hit some klunkers). i listened to the live = recording the guy who organizes the event made yesterday, and thought i = sounded ok. the one thing i was proud of was i didn't forget any lyrics = to any of my songs. could tell 1/2 way through i needed water. my = timing was a bit rushed (& i will say my timing is for sh*t), but = overall, i did ok, survived, and no one died.....sorry for the long = post....next time i do it, i will stick w/ my original intent and when i = change tunings, will do a li'l loop thing to fill air/space... just wanted to thank all for their live post reports that inspired = me..... s--- -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low = rates. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C65E6B.C1CBFA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Scott,
a few day ago, = there was a=20 post about the perception
of the live experience, = by the=20 musician point of view
In my experience, = recording is the=20 best way to
discover what "really" = happenned=20 during the live experience.
Good luck = !
 
Fabio = Anile
 
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/= eterogeneo/
http://music.download.com/eterogeneo/3600-8357-100294444.htm= l?tag=3Dquickurl
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 scott=20 hansen
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 = 5:19=20 PM
Subject: slight OT: scary = situation: 1st=20 live performance at an open mic....

well, inspired by all the posts of people who talked about their = live=20 performance over
the last 5 yrs (yes, it took me 5 yrs), i decided to try an open = mic=20 night and attempt to play a few of my "singer-songwriter/folk" songs = (sorry=20 for slight OT).
even though i teach college art (drawing/pntg/art apprec) and = have to=20 lecture, i would not say that i'm a real outgoing individual, was very = shy=20 during most of my public school days, hated speeches in college...but = then for=20 some strange reason back in '98 started writing songs, etc....around = 01-02=20 thought about trying to play them live, and practiced them and = recorded them=20 (ad infinitum, working on recording etc-endless problems), finally = decided=20 after so many yrs of worrying, fear,to just bite the bullet. that = happened monday nite, 4-10 at the open mic at the mill restaurant in = iowa=20 city. i was nervous, but remembered being more nervous for speeches in = college. i had practiced my stuff over the last 2 weeks, got my = rudimentary=20 tools together.....
i even debated doing a bit of looping, brought my new = digitech =20 digitdelay, but in the end worried about all other things and being my = 1st=20 time, decided to not hook it up. played my 8 songs in 25 minutes, and = thought=20 i did ok-i figured everyone there would be too into their bar thing so = no=20 pressure. i definately learned a lot of things in that 25 min, like = boy those=20 2 spot lights are HOT, and BRING WATER (my throat was killing me after = the 3rd=20 song). my wife asked me if i could tell people were = watching/listening, and i=20 would say: i don't know, i really couldn't see due to the spot lights = (it is=20 very weird) and i really couldn't hear what my guitar or voice sounded = like=20 due to my inexperience w/ monitors. the girl who played after me (who = is on a=20 national tour for an album) asked for the voice to be punched up in = the=20 monitors, and who i should add was very good. i should say that for = the most=20 part my tools served me well. my 100$ hohner guitar stayed in tune and = performed great (i had the cheapest guitar there by far), the seymour = duncan=20 single coil woody pu didn't do great, there was some hum, but the = guitar did=20 sound pretty good. since i have songs in 2 different tunings and was = afraid of=20 tuning onstage i brought my parker nitefly for the standard = tuning stuff=20 w/ its piezo (acoustic like sounds), i couldn't really hear it from = the stage,=20 and i made some mistakes of not playing it as much as i should have, = and 9's=20 are probably too thin for live stuff-strumming wise (i hit some = klunkers). i=20 listened to the live recording the guy who organizes the event made = yesterday,=20 and thought i sounded ok. the one thing i was proud of was i didn't = forget any=20 lyrics to any of my songs.  could tell 1/2 way through i needed = water. my=20 timing was a bit rushed (& i will say my timing is for sh*t), but = overall,=20 i did ok, survived, and no one died.....sorry for the long = post....next time i=20 do it, i will stick w/ my original intent and when i change tunings, = will do a=20 li'l loop thing to fill air/space...
just wanted to thank all for their live post reports that = inspired=20 me.....
s---
 

Yahoo!=20 Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low=20 rates. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C65E6B.C1CBFA40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 18:09:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6A503BF7A; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=gcE5v70nNDLKTsMpOb88O7geIL51BdpBENBMjdIdModN3MmxloVHHoGfn0F0M5mY; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:14:15 -0700 Subject: Re: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open mic.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Sheila Olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20060412151931.42538.qmail@web33113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <267DEF18-CA50-11DA-9C94-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd48bf9ae37c35d4516132844deb0f3b7c40cd0c042b896368d8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.118.102 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Great news Scott, wish I could have been there. joe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 20:52:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0576B3BF67; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <316.2b9c2a9.316ec29d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:52:45 EDT Subject: Re: slight OT: scary situation: 1st live performance at an open mic.... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_316.2b9c2a9.316ec29d_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:52:51 +0000 (UTC) --part1_316.2b9c2a9.316ec29d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great news scott.....please let me know when you are going to take your looping on stage, that would be a real treat!.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_316.2b9c2a9.316ec29d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great news scott.....please let me know= when you are going to take your looping on stage, that would be a real trea= t!.....michael



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 --part1_316.2b9c2a9.316ec29d_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 21:07:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0BF23BF72; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <380.438da3.316ec60f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:07:27 EDT Subject: Re: Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_380.438da3.316ec60f_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:07:33 +0000 (UTC) --part1_380.438da3.316ec60f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit once while playing a small festival in cali about 10 mins. into my set, i was happily loopin away when a somewhat crazed person ran into the church yelling "STOP THE MUSIC STOP PLAYING", i'm not wrapped tight in the first place and wondered am i that bad? but this person went on to announce that "THE TACO SHOP ACCROSS THE STREET IS CALLING THE POLICE SO YOU MUST MOVE YOUR CARS OUT OF THEIR PARKING LOT".....well thank goodness it wasn't totally me and i had not offended the TACO PEOPLE but i was soooo freaked that my hands started shaking and every note i played had built in tremelo and vibrato.....i was so stressed that i finished my set about 10 mins. early.....also, i'm surprised that nobody mentioned LOOPSTOCK lll down in LOS OSSOS (sp)....."can we trun on the juke box yet?".....nice!.....mic www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_380.438da3.316ec60f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable once while playing a small festival in=20= cali about 10 mins. into my set, i was happily loopin away when a somewhat c= razed person ran into the church yelling "STOP THE MUSIC STOP PLAYING", i'm=20= not wrapped tight in the first place and wondered am i that bad? but this pe= rson went on to announce that "THE TACO SHOP ACCROSS THE STREET IS CALLING T= HE POLICE SO YOU MUST MOVE YOUR CARS OUT OF THEIR PARKING LOT".....well than= k goodness it wasn't totally me and i had not offended the TACO PEOPLE but i= was soooo freaked that my hands started shaking and every note i played had= built in tremelo and vibrato.....i was so stressed that i finished my set a= bout 10 mins. early.....also, i'm surprised that nobody mentioned LOOPSTOCK=20= lll down in LOS OSSOS (sp)....."can we trun on the juke box yet?".....nice!.= ....mic



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 --part1_380.438da3.316ec60f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 21:25:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A0E43BF77; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mfUQcXoA3VSDhHpvIFmBC4srIAAKYDesaUIZabjuBlV+fs4t8dns5hlRBQWjKTbJ; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:24:23 -0800 Subject: Re: Scary Situations From: stanitarium To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <380.438da3.316ec60f@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3227696663_42822_MIME_Part" X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4853bb750b47d047ff7c7e913331043fa8540b0f8a6f3b58b0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.243.143.79 Resent-Message-ID: <_1wNWB.A._yD.5AXPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:25:13 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3227696663_42822_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit yo mikee-i remember that-who said that 'if you were really @ loopstock-you wouldnt remember it'? they were wrong-and i dont recall your playing/looping suffering any from that outburst- altho we did run away to move our cars-that would be disconcerting to anyone performing... play on staninsanfran on 4/12/06 1:07 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com at Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: once while playing a small festival in cali about 10 mins. into my set, i was happily loopin away when a somewhat crazed person ran into the church yelling "STOP THE MUSIC STOP PLAYING", i'm not wrapped tight in the first place and wondered am i that bad? but this person went on to announce that "THE TACO SHOP ACCROSS THE STREET IS CALLING THE POLICE SO YOU MUST MOVE YOUR CARS OUT OF THEIR PARKING LOT".....well thank goodness it wasn't totally me and i had not offended the TACO PEOPLE but i was soooo freaked that my hands started shaking and every note i played had built in tremelo and vibrato.....i was so stressed that i finished my set about 10 mins. early.....also, i'm surprised that nobody mentioned LOOPSTOCK lll down in LOS OSSOS (sp)....."can we trun on the juke box yet?".....nice!.....mic www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --MS_Mac_OE_3227696663_42822_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Scary Situations yo mikee-i remember that-who said that 'if you were really @ loopstock-you = wouldnt remember it'? they were wrong-and i dont recall your playing/looping= suffering any from that outburst-
altho we did run away to move our cars-that would be disconcerting to anyon= e performing...
play on
staninsanfran





on 4/12/06 1:07 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com at Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:
once while playing a small f= estival in cali about 10 mins. into my set, i was happily loopin away when a= somewhat crazed person ran into the church yelling "STOP THE MUSIC STO= P PLAYING", i'm not wrapped tight in the first place and wondered am i = that bad? but this person went on to announce that "THE TACO SHOP ACCRO= SS THE STREET IS CALLING THE POLICE SO YOU MUST MOVE YOUR CARS OUT OF THEIR = PARKING LOT".....well thank goodness it wasn't totally me and i had not= offended the TACO PEOPLE but i was soooo freaked that my hands started shak= ing and every note i played had built in tremelo and vibrato.....i was so st= ressed that i finished my set about 10 mins. early.....also, i'm surprised t= hat nobody mentioned LOOPSTOCK lll down in LOS OSSOS (sp)....."can we t= run on the juke box yet?".....nice!.....mic



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http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11


--MS_Mac_OE_3227696663_42822_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 21:28:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8E8E3BF7A; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:28:20 -0700 Subject: Re: Scary Situations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: David Trenkel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <17601073.1144847484842.JavaMail.root@web30> Message-Id: <43CB56E0-CA6B-11DA-B118-000A95A5D158@peak.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Spam-Score: 2.28 (**) MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_EXPERIENCE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:28:23 +0000 (UTC) On Wednesday, April 12, 2006, at 06:11 AM, paulrichard10@adelphia.net wrote: > << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> > > Sounds like most rappers to me. :) Ohh, man, did you have to go there? Why you be down wit' all the hatin' 'n sh*t. My band collaborates with rappers often. We've definitely had the experience like Rick's of the Rapper Who Wouldn't Shut The F*CK UP. In fact once we were playing what is probably the nicest jazz club in Eugene. Two rappers/street kids saw us setting up, noticed we had turntables onstage and asked to sit in for a tune. We did, they pretty much took over the show for 3 tunes, doing really off-color raps, asking the audience where they could score some weed, picking on people in the audience, etc. After we got them offstage and out the door, they demanded to be paid for the gig! On the other hand, we've had some amazing experiences with rappers. One guy, who has actually toured with us, and would be a full-time member of the band if he didn't have a life, always gets onstage, says his piece and leaves us, and the audience wanting to hear more. He's kind of like a bebop soloist whose medium is words and rhymes instead of #9 chords, amazing guy. He's extremely musical, and I look forward to every opportunity we have to collaborate. We also have a pool of about 5-6 other rappers that know they are welcome to sit in whenever we play, these are people we know and have worked with. But after the above incident, we don't let just anyone rap with us. Another pet peeve I have is with percussion. Our horn players play various hand percussion stuff, and it's laying onstage near the front most of the time. Why do people think that it's cool to grab a cowbell and whack away at it while a band is playing? I mean, everybody loves the Chris Walken/SNL skit about "Don't Fear the Reaper," but come on, there is such a thing as too much cowbell. Especially since it's one of those instruments designed to cut through large groups. We play a lot of stuff in weird time signatures that don't necessarily sound weird, we try to make stuff groove. A lot of times people will grab a percussion instrument, never find the groove, and still play until we can grab it from them. And while I'm on the subject, what about stupid requests from the audience? At a recent gig in Boulder, a girl came up after our last tune and asked us to play American Pie. Ok, for the last couple of hours we'd been playing angular funk, hip hop, afrobeat, electronic stuff, with no vocals, nothing to suggest that we would or even could play American Pie. She might as well have asked us to recite the Gettysberg address. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 21:47:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 536C13BF82; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <386.433f56.316ecf53@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:46:59 EDT Subject: yo yo yo stano To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_386.433f56.316ecf53_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:47:10 +0000 (UTC) --part1_386.433f56.316ecf53_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/12/06 5:25:33 PM, stanitarium@earthlink.net writes: > staninsanfran > > stano.....are you the STAN CARD who was reviewing guitars in this past GUITAR PLAYER.?....some funny stuff on these SCARY SITUATIONS posts.....AMERICAN PIE.....YIKES!.....:)m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_386.433f56.316ecf53_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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 --part1_386.433f56.316ecf53_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 21:52:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 630A23BF85; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=eZu6Cx9X6R8NYx+nqBaVDqhYfTbTLu2oqWcOTa0TVhwck5KGf0PC56E8GDchgU04; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:51:37 -0800 Subject: Re: yo yo yo stano From: stanitarium To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <386.433f56.316ecf53@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3227698297_141099_MIME_Part" X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4853bb750b47d047ff44536783c239439285709c4405726f5b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.243.161.162 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:52:28 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3227698297_141099_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit yup-imagine...thee most unlearned guitarer you will EVER meet-in the pages of GP-yikes on 4/12/06 1:46 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com at Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/12/06 5:25:33 PM, stanitarium@earthlink.net writes: staninsanfran stano.....are you the STAN CARD who was reviewing guitars in this past GUITAR PLAYER.?....some funny stuff on these SCARY SITUATIONS posts.....AMERICAN PIE.....YIKES!.....:)m --MS_Mac_OE_3227698297_141099_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: yo yo yo stano yup-imagine...thee most unlearned guitarer you will EVER meet-in the pages = of GP-yikes




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--MS_Mac_OE_3227698297_141099_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 22:01:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70FB33BF88; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <384.47c1ae.316ed2c0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:01:36 EDT Subject: Re: yo yo yo stano To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_384.47c1ae.316ed2c0_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:01:43 +0000 (UTC) --part1_384.47c1ae.316ed2c0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dude!.....he stole your name! www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_384.47c1ae.316ed2c0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dude!.....he stole your name!



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 --part1_384.47c1ae.316ed2c0_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 22:08:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92D073BF8C; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4117.128.193.37.212.1144879697.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <43CB56E0-CA6B-11DA-B118-000A95A5D158@peak.org> References: <17601073.1144847484842.JavaMail.root@web30> <43CB56E0-CA6B-11DA-B118-000A95A5D158@peak.org> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Scary Situations From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:08:19 +0000 (UTC) > Dave wrote: > And while I'm on the subject, what about stupid requests from the > audience? At a recent gig in Boulder, a girl came up after our last > tune and asked us to play American Pie. Ok, for the last couple of > hours we'd been playing angular funk, hip hop, afrobeat, electronic > stuff, with no vocals, nothing to suggest that we would or even could > play American Pie. She might as well have asked us to recite the > Gettysberg address. I've got a great one for that. Audience: "'Freebird!'" Us: "We don't play 'Freebird' but here's a song just like it." [Continue playing our regular set.] BTW don't always take folks seriously when they request 'Freebird'. Sometimes someone's making a joke. Like me. >:-> Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 22:16:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E06E3BF90; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:16:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=jomqfpGEmwSOvdcmDfmgSZDztXpUyvjvwZtrE0aW2VxcwCLK3Noao20i6wIwZl3H; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:15:58 -0800 Subject: Re: Scary Situations From: stanitarium To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4117.128.193.37.212.1144879697.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd482fdda910245ca78dd1e27829ada5782dc9b5e52464f59f68350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.243.143.233 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:16:48 +0000 (UTC) i think Freebird is some kinda mantra that you cant help shouting out once you have enough alterations in ye... i have a cassette i made when the Ramones came to town in '76...first thing you hear on the tape..."FREEBIRD"!!!! from somebody in the crowd... the MERMEN, who i worked for had a great retort when that was shouted out at their shows..."'Play Freebird'!!...oh man, we played it-where were ya?" s > I've got a great one for that. > Audience: "'Freebird!'" > Us: "We don't play 'Freebird' but here's a song just like it." > [Continue playing our regular set.] > BTW don't always take folks seriously when they request 'Freebird'. Sometimes > someone's making a joke. Like me. >:-> > Cheers, > Kevin > www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 22:18:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 077983BF84; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JROWz+Qje1hlNisxzM1axPbc9sj3QEU5oGj/Rwtzn1w9W7sXjRlJ4iMQPtgi45JuOUHgRgjtgrVj/NDcgzHhacY9s7GA581B+A9phfVE7yfzaUTwcp1+ljIew0THmdOsgZ6oY++t+sFjOWWZyuQ/u3Yx0cYeqKPdKugcahnYY+o= ; Message-ID: <20060412221809.8340.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: hilariously scary situations To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <6Y9U_C.A.yUG.iyXPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:18:11 +0000 (UTC) the time i was doing a gallery hop busk with a sack of fungi in my pocket and gutts,and puffin away on a huge spleef was a hilariously scary moment.im sittin there wailing away and who walks around the corner and stops to listen?THE MAN!!!i know im getting a ticket at the very least and if he finds the other stuff im goin down...he looks me in the eye and says"keep it down"and tosses a buck in my guitar case i give em the nod and keep playin as he walks away!as i can afford the plea bargined disorderlly conduct for the smoke i still keep one lit while doing the busk,but dose up and leave the fungi at home is the moral of this story & not all cops are dickheads...that one made a friend for life! keep they heads ringin. scary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 22:18:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E90903BFA4; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443D7CD3.4010806@pdq.net> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:18:59 -0500 From: Doug Cox User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Scary Situations References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:18:57 +0000 (UTC) In my old punk band, we'd just give them the finger and say "no charge" :) stanitarium wrote: > i think Freebird is some kinda mantra that you cant help shouting out once > you have enough alterations in ye... > i have a cassette i made when the Ramones came to town in '76...first thing > you hear on the tape..."FREEBIRD"!!!! from somebody in the crowd... > the MERMEN, who i worked for had a great retort when that was shouted out at > their shows..."'Play Freebird'!!...oh man, we played it-where were ya?" > s > > > > >> I've got a great one for that. >> Audience: "'Freebird!'" >> Us: "We don't play 'Freebird' but here's a song just like it." >> [Continue playing our regular set.] >> BTW don't always take folks seriously when they request 'Freebird'. Sometimes >> someone's making a joke. Like me. >:-> >> Cheers, >> Kevin >> www.TheNettles.com >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 22:44:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0123C3BF8F; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Y7xPY4kdHzMERQ81H44tz6LAn9pMpypNsGNVtMPfCrLTFVvFaI8AKDEvDMICkg/RWMWl7nfasyH7cpHTo5bW4mFzkdsZ4tWuKgyU6swPfXfe8itO8tyUbzMQ/2ffsy+rOLanCTf5lS0SmQPuHlAZgMaWJwuM24ncSKvfeIXNmpY= ; Message-ID: <20060412224358.84968.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:43:58 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: When loopers are attacked! (was Scary Situations) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Great story Rick! Man, that does sound terrible. My guy never got aggressive, he was just kind of stoned and dug in. He just wasn't getting the hint. Maybe this thread should change a bit. Here's the question I ask. Why are loopers picked upon as easy pray? I've been at the music thing since I was 14 and I've never had the hassles playing in a band as I do when looping. Usually it's not an attack though, but there are few gigs I've done where someone doesn't come up to me to TALK. Why? One woman started yelling at my cohort who was triggering samples into a JamMan via a laptop. She yelled, "Oh, is the computer doing all this?" It was at a really nice art opening. He tried to start explaining what he was doing... and she walked away mid sentence! We looked at each other stunned. Other times people feel I'm up for giving a tutorial on what I'm doing. Part of why I wear headphones now when I'm not up on a stage is that I point at my headphones and then my gear as an explaination as to why I'm not responding to them. Seems to work reasonably well. I think my next live gig will be on ninjam. Mark --- "loop.pool" wrote: > At one point I 'ended' a piece and went over to the > line of young men and > said, "Thanks a lot, I need to get back to the rest > of the show now," > and everybody turned on me angrily and one guy said, > "Oh man, he got his > turn, I want my turn" to a chorus > of hostile 'yeahs' from the peanut galler. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 12 23:26:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48C7B3BF94; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01bd01c65e88$9483d9f0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: Scary Situations Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:26:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Scoots Galore wrote: ""THE TACO SHOP ACCROSS THE STREET IS CALLING THE POLICE SO YOU MUST MOVE YOUR CARS OUT OF THEIR PARKING LOT".....well thank goodness it wasn't totally me and i had not offended the TACO PEOPLE but i was soooo freaked that my hands started shaking and every note i played had built in tremelo and vibrato....." and something tells me that I will never live this one down, Scoots ......................if you could only have seen how evil that fucking Taco Shop owner was........................realize how exhausted I was from MCing the entire 24 hours of that show...........................how stressed I was that one of my headliners not only came to the gig, but suddenly refused to go on (after I'd hyped the hell out of him). How upset I was that the owner of the venue was so angry and uncommunicative that he left for the whole weekend with the keys to venue. I'm amazed I got out of that one without a heart attack. I plead diminished capacity and the desire to keep all the people who played for free from getting their cars towed. I'm sooooooooo sorry that it hurt your set...................................please finally accept my apologies. with love and respect, rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 00:24:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C5333BF9F; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4588.128.193.37.212.1144887841.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <20060412224358.84968.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <20060412224358.84968.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: When loopers are attacked! (was Scary Situations) From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:24:04 +0000 (UTC) > Why are loopers picked upon as easy pray? Which is scarier? A. Guy sitting on a chair with a guitar and a laptop. B. Three guys standing and moving around while another guy seated at the back beats things with sticks? Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 01:27:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCD953BF9F; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ezm4h67wCQg6eK1Smpv/SaHEYGAYrHzPGzMV+aTa7en44ycl5Eg8wsv5L8R7DWX+; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-22006441312744950@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: hilariously scary situations Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:27:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da940c83adf029cb68a3ba470ae1055c6fb39350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.162 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Great story!!! No, not all cops are dickheads. Some are very cool indeed. You'll find some damned reasonable ones out there. I have. ~Tim > [Original Message] > From: daniel stevenson > To: > Date: 4/12/2006 6:18:11 PM > Subject: hilariously scary situations > > the time i was doing a gallery hop busk with a sack of > fungi in my pocket and gutts,and puffin away on a huge > spleef was a hilariously scary moment.im sittin there > wailing away and who walks around the corner and stops > to listen?THE MAN!!!i know im getting a ticket at the > very least and if he finds the other stuff im goin > down...he looks me in the eye and says"keep it > down"and tosses a buck in my guitar case i give em the > nod and keep playin as he walks away!as i can afford > the plea bargined disorderlly conduct for the smoke i > still keep one lit while doing the busk,but dose up > and leave the fungi at home is the moral of this story > & not all cops are dickheads...that one made a friend > for life! > keep they heads ringin. > scary > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 01:31:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80A103BFA2; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:31:21 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: Marantz PMD660 -was: solid state recorders To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <443DA9E9.2010803@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) Resent-Message-ID: <-eZJ8.A.ZAF.wnaPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:31:29 +0000 (UTC) >> "Henry Heine" wrote: >> Right! There are 20 dB pads, but they seem to be AFTER the mic pre! >> You'll see what I mean: It allows you to reduce the level of the fully >> distorted track. Ack! You're right. The built-in mics can't even handle living-room guitar levels! I do have pads for the external condenser mics I plan to use, but this makes the recorder way less useful to me than I was hoping. So much for unobtrusive stealth recordings of our jams... Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 01:35:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E31D3BF97; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=atgMoSh0gRMCKS6jA0S/6jkJo3avUzvjmh1tHquPN6qU800tte7viOARzgV9soPw; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-22006441313521440@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Walker, Sonic Ranger re: Scary Situations Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:35:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da94089ba1d82af9ca2ab562db6592c4f71cf350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.162 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Beware the Taco People! Seriously, sounds like a genuine bummer for all concerned, esp. the guy trying to hold it all together, the man known as Walker, Sonic Ranger. This Bud (no, a REAL beer) is for you. ~Tim > [Original Message] > From: loop.pool > To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) > Date: 4/12/2006 7:26:51 PM > Subject: re: Scary Situations > > Scoots Galore wrote: > ""THE TACO SHOP ACCROSS THE STREET IS CALLING THE POLICE SO YOU MUST MOVE > YOUR CARS OUT OF THEIR PARKING LOT".....well thank goodness it wasn't > totally me and i had not offended the TACO PEOPLE but i was soooo freaked > that my hands started shaking and every note i played had built in tremelo > and vibrato....." > > > and something tells me that I will never live this one down, Scoots > > ......................if you could only have seen how evil that fucking Taco > Shop owner > was........................realize how exhausted I was from MCing the entire > 24 hours of that show...........................how stressed I was that > one of my headliners not only came to the gig, but suddenly refused to go on > (after I'd hyped the hell out of him). How upset I was that the owner of > the venue was so angry and uncommunicative that he left for the whole > weekend with the keys to venue. I'm amazed I got out of that one without > a heart attack. > > I plead diminished capacity and the desire to keep all the people who played > for free from getting their cars towed. > > I'm sooooooooo sorry that it hurt your > set...................................please finally accept my apologies. > > > with love and respect, rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 04:12:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E6303BF85; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060412211100.01a954a8@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:12:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs? In-Reply-To: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0 A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> References: <041020061944.20053.443AB59F0009B05300004E552200761394CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:12:43 +0000 (UTC) At 12:44 PM 4/10/2006, you wrote: >You might look into a Boss LS-2 Line Splitter. It can be set up for >two seperate (line) loops each with a volume control that can be >engaged or bypassed in pretty much any combination. Among other >possible setups! Very useful device and not expensive. Per http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/LS-2/specs.html the Recommended Load Impedance is 10 k ohms or greater so doesn't that make it a standard hi-Z (non-line-level) device? Cheers, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 04:35:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB0B53BF99; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060412212147.01a95890@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:36:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: re: Scary Situations In-Reply-To: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:35:37 +0000 (UTC) At 07:38 PM 4/11/2006, Rick wrote: >A young man walked up to me in the middleof the song as I was >juggling the loops (warning sign already) >and said. "I dig your beatboxing", I"m a rapper, could I do a >piece with you?... >It was really pretty ugly quickly and I just gave up and beatboxed >until the festival leaders aske me to quit playing (half an hour >earlier than I was supposed to). This is totally Monday morning quarterbacking and I wasn't there but if something like that happened to me, I think I would develop equipment trouble. Especially if there's a sound guy. When the sound guy came over, I'd quietly ask him to go get Security. When the cavalry arrived (okay, a fat guy in black with a walkie-talkie) I'd say something like, "Gee, I'm sorry it didn't work out for you all. Catch you later, okay?" The sound guy, the security guy and you would probably be enough to convince people to go. But then there's teardown and the guys waiting in the parking lot. Oh, heck. That's a time when it pays to have friends. Big friends. Biker friends. Who don't like hiphop. >I, unfortunately, have experienced similar situations a couple of >times since then enough to have developed the prejudice that >freestyled rappers are the most aggressive and insensitive musicians >that I've ever played with. Well, freestyling is a macho blood sport. Freestyling is to singing what boxing is to ballet. >If someone is insensitive enough and pushy enough to come up right >in the middle of a show it's an automatic 'no' reply from me now... Ah, what about the folks who ask to come up when you take your break to play _while_ you're taking your break? That's a subtler thing that I've been running into lately. I'm at the point where I don't like having someone on stage unless I know them or someone I respect vouches for them. Cheers, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 05:18:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA6143BF85; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6ocONyJirZpmUQ9N6wSHlUeNYP/lu3XxXb2dUAnV+6+WaxJz6TVGLgfh2epQycOJyVNPjlt56JnkvMwRJ+OYOU9d5DWzcmPCZRMYj0242BT+Y1j9Jydz6L1e0J0Jd6iS7+ZZ6bwSs+uV5fDnX78uJ5FlhTC1jcnzajB3UXb6dZ8= ; Message-ID: <20060413051852.13984.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:18:52 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: re: Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060412212147.01a95890@TheNettles.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <4BgznC.A.YbD.98dPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:18:53 +0000 (UTC) stage jumpers --- Kevin wrote: > At 07:38 PM 4/11/2006, Rick wrote: > >A young man walked up to me in the middleof the > song as I was > >juggling the loops (warning sign already) > >and said. "I dig your beatboxing", I"m a > rapper, could I do a > >piece with you?... > >It was really pretty ugly quickly and I just gave > up and beatboxed > >until the festival leaders aske me to quit playing > (half an hour > >earlier than I was supposed to). > > This is totally Monday morning quarterbacking and I > wasn't there but > if something like that happened to me, I think I > would develop > equipment trouble. Especially if there's a sound > guy. When the > sound guy came over, I'd quietly ask him to go get > Security. When > the cavalry arrived (okay, a fat guy in black with a > walkie-talkie) > I'd say something like, "Gee, I'm sorry it didn't > work out for you > all. Catch you later, okay?" The sound guy, the > security guy and > you would probably be enough to convince people to > go. But then > there's teardown and the guys waiting in the parking > lot. Oh, > heck. That's a time when it pays to have friends. > Big > friends. Biker friends. Who don't like hiphop. > > >I, unfortunately, have experienced similar > situations a couple of > >times since then enough to have developed the > prejudice that > >freestyled rappers are the most aggressive and > insensitive musicians > >that I've ever played with. > > Well, freestyling is a macho blood sport. > Freestyling is to singing > what boxing is to ballet. > > >If someone is insensitive enough and pushy enough > to come up right > >in the middle of a show it's an automatic 'no' > reply from me now... > > Ah, what about the folks who ask to come up when you > take your break > to play _while_ you're taking your break? That's a > subtler thing > that I've been running into lately. I'm at the > point where I don't > like having someone on stage unless I know them or > someone I respect > vouches for them. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music > www.TheNettles.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 05:41:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81E1E3BFA0; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mvsGeKJjJb6SE9ECH+ohcWWmhEt1fEFkL7vh6JA4gEyiVeGfYBM/FQOQP4CL+Sd09pdG5M+mlEKyI1tSQMQx9ZsYcbojVESAWa81LosrKpJ5C4Z3u0ceXsqbItreOQeeWAAtEHkzNyoxCgsXpp5Vjb2ikxeJgkvo5rivPxEVcl8= ; Message-ID: <20060413054142.26474.qmail@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:41:42 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: stage jumpers was Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060413051852.13984.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:41:44 +0000 (UTC) i guess im lucky but the stuff im doing is impossible to rap over so i dont get any of that...lol but i would let anyone from this list sit in(this may constitute a misdemeanor in some regions)heck i might even let you rap...lol but remember its a "sacred bond" to make music together. seeing sounds, scary visionary. --- daniel stevenson wrote: > stage jumpers > > --- Kevin wrote: > > > At 07:38 PM 4/11/2006, Rick wrote: > > >A young man walked up to me in the middleof the > > song as I was > > >juggling the loops (warning sign already) > > >and said. "I dig your beatboxing", I"m a > > rapper, could I do a > > >piece with you?... > > >It was really pretty ugly quickly and I just gave > > up and beatboxed > > >until the festival leaders aske me to quit > playing > > (half an hour > > >earlier than I was supposed to). > > > > This is totally Monday morning quarterbacking and > I > > wasn't there but > > if something like that happened to me, I think I > > would develop > > equipment trouble. Especially if there's a sound > > guy. When the > > sound guy came over, I'd quietly ask him to go get > > Security. When > > the cavalry arrived (okay, a fat guy in black with > a > > walkie-talkie) > > I'd say something like, "Gee, I'm sorry it didn't > > work out for you > > all. Catch you later, okay?" The sound guy, the > > security guy and > > you would probably be enough to convince people to > > go. But then > > there's teardown and the guys waiting in the > parking > > lot. Oh, > > heck. That's a time when it pays to have friends. > > > Big > > friends. Biker friends. Who don't like hiphop. > > > > >I, unfortunately, have experienced similar > > situations a couple of > > >times since then enough to have developed the > > prejudice that > > >freestyled rappers are the most aggressive and > > insensitive musicians > > >that I've ever played with. > > > > Well, freestyling is a macho blood sport. > > Freestyling is to singing > > what boxing is to ballet. > > > > >If someone is insensitive enough and pushy enough > > to come up right > > >in the middle of a show it's an automatic 'no' > > reply from me now... > > > > Ah, what about the folks who ask to come up when > you > > take your break > > to play _while_ you're taking your break? That's > a > > subtler thing > > that I've been running into lately. I'm at the > > point where I don't > > like having someone on stage unless I know them or > > someone I respect > > vouches for them. > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > > > The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music > > www.TheNettles.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 06:38:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6B643BFA1; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: cburke55@comcast.net (Christophe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: best way to split your guitar signal into two EDPs? Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:38:04 +0000 Message-Id: <041320060638.24595.443DF1CC0009ABF4000060132200760180CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: Y2J1cmtlNTVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:38:07 +0000 (UTC) > >You might look into a Boss LS-2 Line Splitter. It can be set up for > >two seperate (line) loops each with a volume control that can be > >engaged or bypassed in pretty much any combination. Among other > >possible setups! Very useful device and not expensive. > > Per http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/LS-2/specs.html > the Recommended Load Impedance is 10 k ohms or greater > so doesn't that make it a standard hi-Z (non-line-level) device? "Line" was a poor choice of word - I meant an actual physical loop off the signal path, rather than a musical loop. Sorry for the confusion! Regards, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 07:11:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 278543BFA7; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V6EmuGf5SSqrwgdCqA8nmgfumsDBabEdPK7wKxJh9mwhUuwCrNowwSCZtQicZaRdTYVHKZJGe5ZDgH1pG9V7h5SnwSo+kEWJhTG60CA6Qe/EKvJAIWpyCAvCs1bck0sqJAOSQTtVto5m8jY4PF/qwnRBhfciPI+3ktF6NOcgZzY= ; Message-ID: <20060413071105.19131.qmail@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:11:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: shameless plug To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1ee901c659fa$cbd6b5e0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1Ja7vB.A.M6G.MmfPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Since a large proportion of the people who emailed me about the availability of my CDs 'Mesh' and 'Rantai' are on this list, I'll post this here... The CDBaby pages are finally both up. (See links in sig file, or follow the ones at http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes) Regarding CDBaby, I'm making it a personal goal to move more than Tim Mungenast. :P Of loop note, on the CDs I used a Headrush, a DL4, an RC-20, an Echopro and a little bit of Mobius... If any of you who've already heard either/both of the CDs would like to post reviews on the CDBaby sites, I'd be most appreciative as well. Thanks, -t- 'Rantai' CD: 'Mesh' CD: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 07:19:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19B773BFAA; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YqTGTHNa1taZzCfXwlxpc5Pd3B/H6+fykfje/QYVpCSmnb1LgntEmGp3J/Fe2Z19; h=Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:18:16 -0800 Subject: Re: stage jumpers was Scary Situations From: stanitarium To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20060413054142.26474.qmail@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd485591a1066c9440c35ffa2798e32ab98da2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.243.161.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:19:08 +0000 (UTC) i "thought" my loop stuff was impossible to do any live vocal over... and then live @ LoopStock i was doin a 'LoveRollercoaster' riff(dont know why!) and all of a sudden not one but TWO vocalizers got on the mics and started beetboppin er whatever they call it :-) i didnt chase them off mainly because one is the ever-loving host of the Y2K Loopfests and the other was the host of the Loopstocks... i think it turned out great-never got to hear what it sounded like tho... keeponrockin'inthefreeworld stan (thanks Hans and franz-i mean Rick :-) on 4/12/06 9:41 PM, daniel stevenson at stillllscary@yahoo.com wrote: > i guess im lucky but the stuff im doing is impossible > to rap over so i dont get any of that...lol but i > would let anyone from this list sit in(this may > constitute a misdemeanor in some regions)heck i might > even let you rap...lol but remember its a "sacred > bond" to make music together. > seeing sounds, > scary visionary. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 08:41:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F22763BFAA; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tEXGrP2oWD2/kn+Hw2NNLTt+k9sDu+cylWa6i/tpAzJHvYeYGGY8OIw5sF4csp2rRip+/zz8RJ7rlTB1lpY3jl3+HL2h8ZxmcQISJDl2/QTS3H+mPhRggWPCsFli9ilN3roDI5bC2uf3kIUhef8j6XxZDHpr8+VutlU/9yb/3Ks= ; Message-ID: <20060413084146.13186.qmail@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:41:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4117.128.193.37.212.1144879697.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-434399460-1144917706=:11583" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:41:47 +0000 (UTC) --0-434399460-1144917706=:11583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is it lets loop all the cheesey covers we can think of put on tangas, pancho hats and loopers might be in the next cover of the rolling stone.... johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > Dave wrote: > And while I'm on the subject, what about stupid requests from the > audience? At a recent gig in Boulder, a girl came up after our last > tune and asked us to play American Pie. Ok, for the last couple of > hours we'd been playing angular funk, hip hop, afrobeat, electronic > stuff, with no vocals, nothing to suggest that we would or even could > play American Pie. She might as well have asked us to recite the > Gettysberg address. I've got a great one for that. Audience: "'Freebird!'" Us: "We don't play 'Freebird' but here's a song just like it." [Continue playing our regular set.] BTW don't always take folks seriously when they request 'Freebird'. Sometimes someone's making a joke. Like me. >:-> Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --0-434399460-1144917706=:11583 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
This is it lets loop all the cheesey covers we can think of put on tangas, pancho hats and loopers might be in the next cover of the rolling stone....
 
 
 

johnsrude@peak.org wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> And while I'm on the subject, what about stupid requests from the
> audience? At a recent gig in Boulder, a girl came up after our last
> tune and asked us to play American Pie. Ok, for the last couple of
> hours we'd been playing angular funk, hip hop, afrobeat, electronic
> stuff, with no vocals, nothing to suggest that we would or even could
> play American Pie. She might as well have asked us to recite the
> Gettysberg address.

I've got a great one for that.

Audience: "'Freebird!'"

Us: "We don't play 'Freebird' but here's a song just like it."
[Continue playing our regular set.]

BTW don't always take folks seriously when they request 'Freebird'. Sometimes
someone's making a joke. Like me. >:->

Cheers,
Kevin
www.TheNettles.com




Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --0-434399460-1144917706=:11583-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 08:50:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86CBB3BFB2; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VxRyqktuVDe7CpkWtCU57ArI15v0z2PHjzvvcm7T3ZYv7VKtO3bqnXGmG+1Q6Mwk77O78+O+ZoBJbRLovcJUEUGJNaQOF0GOidrR9xDrJR+LP1TNML81eC1gNjNPSklVPl3ZhcUqrskY0qxUkin1eXKaPVGV7fz4EEyBpp4jStQ= ; Message-ID: <20060413085038.17665.qmail@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: re: Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6768664.1144850379014.JavaMail.root@web30> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-860004797-1144918238=:3466" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:50:40 +0000 (UTC) --0-860004797-1144918238=:3466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i find cross over or influenced rap stuff even more interesting, rage against the machine,beck come to mind... paulrichard10@adelphia.net wrote: I know there's a lot of good rap music out there. I like Rza's stuff myself. -- Paul Richards ---- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Yes I mean my use of English. ::rolls eyes:: > > Sorry, I got somewhat riled up & actually revised the email a couple of > times & didn't edit properly. Then again, this being the internet, I'd > rather have my email gramatically incorrect than musically ignorant, I > suppose. > > > > > > > paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > 04/12/2006 09:52 AM cc: matthew.quinn@sunlife.com > Please respond to Subject: re: Scary Situations > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > > You mean your use of English? :) > > -- > Paul Richards > > ---- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > > << people with little or no experience or little or no talent >> > > > > Sounds like most rappers to me. :) > > > > > > > > Here is been your daily dose of hip hop ignorance folks. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the > use > > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt > from > > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-860004797-1144918238=:3466 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i find cross over or influenced rap stuff even more interesting, rage against the machine,beck come to mind...

paulrichard10@adelphia.net wrote:
I know there's a lot of good rap music out there. I like Rza's stuff myself.

--
Paul Richards

---- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote:
> Yes I mean my use of English. ::rolls eyes::
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> Sorry, I got somewhat riled up & actually revised the email a couple of
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Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-860004797-1144918238=:3466-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 10:22:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADE3C3BEC5; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003301c65ee4$1fb11050$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060412212147.01a95890@TheNettles.com> Subject: Re: Scary Situations Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:22:08 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: <-i2yUD.A.IjE.YZiPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Okay, I'll chime in now that there's more than one cuppa joe in me... I've now remembered that in 1994 - the New Year's Eve before the Northridge quake - I did a collaboration project-event thing with my rig (Juno106, DDS 7.6, QuadraVerb, 4-track, guitar, fx, mics and a cheap Yamaha mixer) and three good friends. The tape was running and thankfully I had full command over when the loop was open or closed, and which tracks were going to tape - and of course what we were hearing was different to what was being committed to tape. A fourth party hopped along and decided to join in with vocal something-or-others - not rapping, more like a bad imitation of Tuban singers, who'd just come through town with Mickey Hart a couple of months before... At first it was appropriate, but eventually the guy was so off-tune it was becoming an atonal source of noise that had nothing to do with the collective effort. Everyone was in a fairly fragile state, er, okay we were all Fairly Altered, neh? And so I wasn't going to make a big deal out of nothing, really. The fourth party was a friend of all of us and it really wasn't worth destroying that.. In a moment of diplomatic (or dipsomatic!) inspiration I turned down the channel the guy was on that was going to tape. While we still heard his bad vocal drone noises for an hour or so, The Work Was Saved from it, and the next weekend I played the end result for us all, fourth party friend included. While I was nervous as hell that he was going to notice his relative absence from the mix, the guy didn't notice at all. The Whew Award, huh? From: "Kevin" > At 07:38 PM 4/11/2006, Rick wrote: >>A young man walked up to me in the middleof the song as I was juggling the >>loops (warning sign already) >>and said. "I dig your beatboxing", I"m a rapper, could I do a piece >>with you?... >>It was really pretty ugly quickly and I just gave up and beatboxed until >>the festival leaders aske me to quit playing (half an hour earlier than I >>was supposed to). > > This is totally Monday morning quarterbacking and I wasn't there but if > something like that happened to me, I think I would develop equipment > trouble. Especially if there's a sound guy. When the sound guy came > over, I'd quietly ask him to go get Security. When the cavalry arrived > (okay, a fat guy in black with a walkie-talkie) I'd say something like, > "Gee, I'm sorry it didn't work out for you all. Catch you later, okay?" > The sound guy, the security guy and you would probably be enough to > convince people to go. But then there's teardown and the guys waiting in > the parking lot. Oh, heck. That's a time when it pays to have friends. > Big friends. Biker friends. Who don't like hiphop. > >>I, unfortunately, have experienced similar situations a couple of times >>since then enough to have developed the prejudice that freestyled rappers >>are the most aggressive and insensitive musicians that I've ever played >>with. > > Well, freestyling is a macho blood sport. Freestyling is to singing what > boxing is to ballet. > >>If someone is insensitive enough and pushy enough to come up right in the >>middle of a show it's an automatic 'no' reply from me now... > > Ah, what about the folks who ask to come up when you take your break to > play _while_ you're taking your break? That's a subtler thing that I've > been running into lately. I'm at the point where I don't like having > someone on stage unless I know them or someone I respect vouches for them. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music > www.TheNettles.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 14:10:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0002C3BED8; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:09:56 -0500 Subject: Great computer for digital audio for sale From: Chris Beaty To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Hello loopers, I'm selling my Apple G4 quicksilver dual 1.25Ghz for $950. I've used this machine with my protools rig for 3 years and it's fantastic. Interested buyers can contact me at: ctb@visi.com Loop on! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 14:11:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F1C23BEE7; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:11:07 -0500 Subject: For Sale TDM Farm card From: Chris Beaty To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:11:20 +0000 (UTC) I'm selling a TDM farm card for use with Protools mix systems. Asking $700. Interested parties can contact me at: ctb@visi.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 14:36:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5BC43BEE4; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:38:59 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: yo yo yo stano To: stanitarium , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00dc01c65f08$0414ffe0$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Hn+zDdCSRFQ9uGut/9nsvA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:36:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Hn+zDdCSRFQ9uGut/9nsvA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Re: yo yo yo stanoYo Stan- A pleasure to have you aboard the elite review crew. We'll have to discuss the secret coding for "this thing sucks but the manufacturer just took out a full page ad." :-) Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large coyotelk@optonline.net "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." --- Hunter S. Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: stanitarium To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: Re: yo yo yo stano yup-imagine...thee most unlearned guitarer you will EVER meet-in the pages of GP-yikes on 4/12/06 1:46 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com at Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/12/06 5:25:33 PM, stanitarium@earthlink.net writes: staninsanfran stano.....are you the STAN CARD who was reviewing guitars in this past GUITAR PLAYER.?....some funny stuff on these SCARY SITUATIONS posts.....AMERICAN PIE.....YIKES!.....:)m --Boundary_(ID_Hn+zDdCSRFQ9uGut/9nsvA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Re: yo yo yo stano
Yo Stan-
    A pleasure to have you aboard the elite review crew. We'll have to discuss the secret coding for "this thing sucks but the manufacturer just took out a full page ad." :-)
 
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
--- Hunter S. Thompson 
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yup-imagine...thee most unlearned guitarer you will EVER meet-in the pages of GP-yikes




on 4/12/06 1:46 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com at Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/12/06 5:25:33 PM, stanitarium@earthlink.net writes:
staninsanfran
stano.....are you the STAN CARD who was reviewing guitars in this past GUITAR PLAYER.?....some funny stuff on these SCARY SITUATIONS posts.....AMERICAN PIE.....YIKES!.....:)m

--Boundary_(ID_Hn+zDdCSRFQ9uGut/9nsvA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 14:41:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7119D3BEE0; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003301c65ee4$1fb11050$0207a8c0@eluk1> References: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060412212147.01a95890@TheNettles.com> <003301c65ee4$1fb11050$0207a8c0@eluk1> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:41:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Scary Situations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <318TNB.A.1FE.cMmPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:41:32 +0000 (UTC) At 11:22 AM +0100 4/13/06, Stephen Goodman wrote: > >In a moment of diplomatic (or dipsomatic!) inspiration I turned down >the channel the guy was on that was going to tape. While we still >heard his bad vocal drone noises for an hour or so, The Work Was >Saved from it, and the next weekend I played the end result for us >all, fourth party friend included. While I was nervous as hell that >he was going to notice his relative absence from the mix, the guy >didn't notice at all. > >The Whew Award, huh? He didn't notice? Amazing. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 14:45:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84CF73BEF3; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=hcBkMTja7TlBtNXgrE+c7piRT/287chHtm6tTVUpxncrP9kwSTPoBKD/scboV761Kproiv6qR+G1g/f1bvWi/2R/3KjGvGWsxh23FaSbUBq4xWvsnaNUhCnZNFJpEoG8+cSvoGsr4lQZiEqFJfKA0nm+T99iETi1lrEd/bn/CYg= ; Message-ID: <00a701c65f08$e89eb4d0$6602a8c0@Ruelle2> From: "Ben" To: Subject: a cello rondo (slightly OT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:45:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <3ZDVH.A.nNE.LQmPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Not really looping but might have been. http://www.ethanwiner.com/rondo.html ___________________________________________________________________________ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 15:22:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A3803BEE1; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060413081945.01a8c088@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:23:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Secret code (Was: yo yo yo stano) In-Reply-To: <00dc01c65f08$0414ffe0$9715be18@oemcomputer> References: <00dc01c65f08$0414ffe0$9715be18@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:22:40 +0000 (UTC) At 07:38 AM 4/13/2006, you wrote: > A pleasure to have you aboard the elite review crew. We'll have > to discuss the secret coding for "this thing sucks but the > manufacturer just took out a full page ad." :-) Whenever I spout an opinion that one of my tactful relatives considers completely off-the-wall, she says that it's "interesting". Maybe you guys could start using the word "interesting". Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 16:23:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEB5D3BEE7; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20060413122259.o8nb902lhiskw8oc@www.michaelplishka.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:22:59 -0400 From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Scary Situations References: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060412212147.01a95890@TheNettles.com> <003301c65ee4$1fb11050$0207a8c0@eluk1> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 502] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:23:07 +0000 (UTC) We did that once with a live keyboardist and only had him on softly in the monitors but we kept him off the mains. Went great:) ~peace~ Michael www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka Quoting David Gans : > At 11:22 AM +0100 4/13/06, Stephen Goodman wrote: >> >> In a moment of diplomatic (or dipsomatic!) inspiration I turned down >> the channel the guy was on that was going to tape. While we still >> heard his bad vocal drone noises for an hour or so, The Work Was >> Saved from it, and the next weekend I played the end result for us >> all, fourth party friend included. While I was nervous as hell that >> he was going to notice his relative absence from the mix, the guy >> didn't notice at all. >> >> The Whew Award, huh? > > He didn't notice? Amazing. > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 16:51:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8E043BEE2; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060413081945.01a8c088@TheNettles.com> References: <00dc01c65f08$0414ffe0$9715be18@oemcomputer> <7.0.0.16.0.20060413081945.01a8c088@TheNettles.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--863867189 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Secret code (Was: yo yo yo stano) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:50:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:51:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--863867189 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed "Interesting" is one of the MAJOR tools/terms of studio owners! For those in the know, it means, "Woodshed time!" or "Back to Square One!" or the dreaded, "Don't quit your day job" The secret is out!!! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 13-Apr-06, at 8:23 AM, Kevin wrote: > At 07:38 AM 4/13/2006, you wrote: >> A pleasure to have you aboard the elite review crew. We'll have >> to discuss the secret coding for "this thing sucks but the >> manufacturer just took out a full page ad." :-) > > Whenever I spout an opinion that one of my tactful relatives considers > completely off-the-wall, she says that it's "interesting". Maybe you > guys could start using the word "interesting". > > Cheers, > Kevin > --Apple-Mail-4--863867189 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII "Interesting" is one of the MAJOR tools/terms of studio owners! For those in the know, it means, "Woodshed time!" or "Back to Square One!" or the dreaded, "Don't quit your day job" The secret is out!!! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 13-Apr-06, at 8:23 AM, Kevin wrote: At 07:38 AM 4/13/2006, you wrote: A pleasure to have you aboard the elite review crew. We'll have to discuss the secret coding for "this thing sucks but the manufacturer just took out a full page ad." :-) Whenever I spout an opinion that one of my tactful relatives considers completely off-the-wall, she says that it's "interesting". Maybe you guys could start using the word "interesting". Cheers, Kevin --Apple-Mail-4--863867189-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 16:57:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5C363BEF4; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <37c.5dffdc.316fdcde@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:57:02 EDT Subject: Re: Scary Situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_37c.5dffdc.316fdcde_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <5ZQWHC.A.85H.tLoPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:57:17 +0000 (UTC) --part1_37c.5dffdc.316fdcde_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/12/06 7:26:58 PM, looppool@cruzio.com writes: > and something tells me that I will never live this one down > rickeeeeeeeee.....nothing to live down my brother!.....looking back on that weekend i have nothing but fond wonderful memories.....those damn TACO PEOPLE!.....:)m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_37c.5dffdc.316fdcde_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/12/06 7:26:58 PM, looppool@cruzio.com writes:


and something tells m= e that I will never live this one down


rickeeeeeeeee.....nothing to live down my brother!.....looking back on th= at weekend i have nothing but fond wonderful memories.....those damn TACO PE= OPLE!.....:)m



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 --part1_37c.5dffdc.316fdcde_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 17:00:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91E073BEE6; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:59:33 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Scary Situations X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J2bc5.539fS.51b1M" Message-Id: <20060413.095940.28635.715999@webmail47.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:1:3392747712 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5BlTzY1yjRYzXMNj/oR06ow/OSimYGc63A== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.187|webmail47.nyc.untd.com|webmail47.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:00:39 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J2bc5.539fS.51b1M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain Freebird.... Our response is "come back at Thanksgiving and the Union Mission will= serve it for you!" It usually shuts them up = Weg ----__JWM__J2bc5.539fS.51b1M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

Freebird....

   Our response is "come back at Thanksgiving and the Union= Mission will serve it for you!"  It usually shuts them up

 

Weg

----__JWM__J2bc5.539fS.51b1M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 17:18:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6C8D3BF01; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002601c65f1e$37a5ace0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060412212147.01a95890@TheNettles.com> <003301c65ee4$1fb11050$0207a8c0@eluk1> Subject: Re: Scary Situations Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:17:59 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:18:06 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gans" To: Sent: Thursday, 13 April, 2006 15:41 PM Subject: Re: Scary Situations > At 11:22 AM +0100 4/13/06, Stephen Goodman wrote: >> >>In a moment of diplomatic (or dipsomatic!) inspiration I turned down >>the channel the guy was on that was going to tape. While we still >>heard his bad vocal drone noises for an hour or so, The Work Was >>Saved from it, and the next weekend I played the end result for us >>all, fourth party friend included. While I was nervous as hell that >>he was going to notice his relative absence from the mix, the guy >>didn't notice at all. >> >>The Whew Award, huh? > > He didn't notice? Amazing. Thus, "Whew". Kept a friend and lost some awful audio. > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 17:36:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 062D03BEDB; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443E8C1E.10405@biink.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:36:30 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Scary Situations References: <43CB56E0-CA6B-11DA-B118-000A95A5D158@peak.org> In-Reply-To: <43CB56E0-CA6B-11DA-B118-000A95A5D158@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:36:36 +0000 (UTC) David Trenkel wrote: > She might as well have asked us to recite the Gettysberg address. > Could ya? -- * David Beardsley * microtonal guitar * http://biink.com/db From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 18:58:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C9843BED6; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vMdvIZ1JqJ+ji5+bsKt/4nUJ6aD4SQn8BTv/m4cnrwFupzdXw2fo5nQFx5ToMdahfoMZ0HC7KNgH+BS3XsQQYx/th+2WNq90qo+Zn6TiizqJ90GxhfdrbOjHnL4CUY+FqpGQYIRADQKRZC1n8QiksDPTIH7NZs4miAJo4I1wExA= ; Message-ID: <20060413185851.8703.qmail@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:58:51 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: When loopers are attacked! (was Scary Situations) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4588.128.193.37.212.1144887841.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Good point. Next time I play out I shall make sure I have someone around hitting things with sticks. --- johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > > Why are loopers picked upon as easy pray? > > Which is scarier? > > A. Guy sitting on a chair with a guitar and a > laptop. > > B. Three guys standing and moving around while > another guy seated at the back > beats things with sticks? > > Cheers, > Kevin > www.TheNettles.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 20:33:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EED6E3BEC5; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-OB-Received: from unknown (208.36.123.33) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Apr 2006 20:29:43 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "joe rut" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:34:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Scary Situations X-Originating-Ip: 69.110.61.189 X-Originating-Server: ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20060413203410.40EA7CA0BE@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:33:37 +0000 (UTC) I actually know Freebird all the way through, so I often invite the yeller = to come up and sing it while I play it. If that doesn't shut them up and t= hey=20 actually come up on stage, I launch into it at triple tempo. They either w= alk off stage, or try to sing it at that speed. either way, it's pretty fu= nny. Joe Rut > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Weg > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Scary Situations > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:59:33 GMT >=20 >=20 > Freebird.... > Our response is "come back at Thanksgiving and the Union=20 > Mission will serve it for you!" It usually shuts them up >=20 > Weg > --=20 _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pa= ges http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.as= p?SRC=3Dlycos10 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 20:48:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4894D3BEDF; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443EB937.4080002@bagend.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:48:55 -0500 From: Henry Heine User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who's got the most EDP's (lamest topic ever) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Got to be Jon Brion. mark t wrote: > lets here it! and how do you use them all? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 20:50:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA2053BED2; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qk+IfyW6iycnGf26kczCzlxnMqHMdRNntlUjL0XonpGbWnS6UcxGA90yFgxrtKQshtMFbL8FtUlRoZDDqkeEzctKGLkrwNqPdTJ552jjmKGXrE0QruSu+RCfhgLwIsPMyyp5dYMVmG8gHjYiAHQYTtRp/S7Hh5/RaOdKUqAZinU= Message-ID: <26ba8d120604131350x34aaa646qb2c124fdb382f456@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:50:36 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: mungenast@earthlink.net Subject: Re: hilariously scary situations Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <410-22006441312744950@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <410-22006441312744950@earthlink.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/59999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:50:37 +0000 (UTC) A trifle off-topic... My upstairs neighbors many years ago had a fairly successful hardcore band and had a party one night so I went up to be polite. There were lots of muscular people with leather jackets and tattoos.=20 There was also a huge pile of some undetermined white powder on the table when I got into the room, which made me blink and decide not to stay so long... Unfortunately, within 10 minutes there are two police officers standing right there in the (open) door. I try to act nonchalant and am freaking out in my head. One officer asks, "Who's in charge here?" and my neighbor (who was a stand-up guy, a decent musician and human) said, "Me!' to which the officer responded, "You have to stop your people on the roof shooting roman candles at the gas station"(!) Mine host was righteously pissed and immediately placated the cops, knocking some sense into the idiots upstairs: "Hey, asshole! What the fuck do you think you're doing?" -- the cops left without mentioning the incriminating pile... and I could breathe again! On 4/12/06, Timothy Mungenast wrote: > Great story!!! > No, not all cops are dickheads. Some are very cool indeed. You'll find so= me > damned reasonable ones out there. I have. > > ~Tim > > > > [Original Message] > > From: daniel stevenson > > To: > > Date: 4/12/2006 6:18:11 PM > > Subject: hilariously scary situations > > > > the time i was doing a gallery hop busk with a sack of > > fungi in my pocket and gutts,and puffin away on a huge > > spleef was a hilariously scary moment.im sittin there > > wailing away and who walks around the corner and stops > > to listen?THE MAN!!!i know im getting a ticket at the > > very least and if he finds the other stuff im goin > > down...he looks me in the eye and says"keep it > > down"and tosses a buck in my guitar case i give em the > > nod and keep playin as he walks away!as i can afford > > the plea bargined disorderlly conduct for the smoke i > > still keep one lit while doing the busk,but dose up > > and leave the fungi at home is the moral of this story > > & not all cops are dickheads...that one made a friend > > for life! > > keep they heads ringin. > > scary > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 20:52:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 487A33BED6; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [63.237.219.66] X-Originating-Email: [jondrums@hotmail.com] X-Sender: jondrums@hotmail.com From: "jondrums" To: References: <20060413203410.40EA7CA0BE@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Re: Scary Situations Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:51:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2006 20:52:26.0398 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BCA1BE0:01C65F3C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:52:29 +0000 (UTC) I was playing a regular jazz gig at a local pub, when one of the obviously drunk patrons started shouting for us to play some zeppelin. Well we started thinking about if we knew any zeppelin tunes that might be fun, and clearly annoyed that we hadn't started playing one yet, the guy starts yelling for us to play "Baby I'm gonna leave." Well we kind of thought we might know that one, but we didn't think it would translate so good without vocals, so off the cuff, I said: We'll play it if you promise to sing the whole thing. Well this should shut up the drunks for a while, I'm thinking, but then he walks up to the band stand and starts counting it off. Alrighty then, here we go. And it was one of the most amazing musical moments we've ever had at that pub. He was amazing! Turns out he was the lead singer for a national pop act that's been on and off the charts for years. I guess you never know. Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 20:58:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6929B3BEF0; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443EBA96.8010409@speakeasy.net> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:54:46 -0700 From: Dennis Montgomery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Scary Situations References: <20060413204858.E83C63BEE0@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20060413204858.E83C63BEE0@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Cool...a very Zappa solution to hecklers. D ********************** I actually know Freebird all the way through, so I often invite the yeller to come up and sing it while I play it. If that doesn't shut them up and they actually come up on stage, I launch into it at triple tempo. They either walk off stage, or try to sing it at that speed. either way, it's pretty funny. Joe Rut ----- Original Message ----- From: Weg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Scary Situations Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:59:33 GMT Freebird.... Our response is "come back at Thanksgiving and the Union Mission will serve it for you!" It usually shuts them up Weg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 21:15:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF0973BED9; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3120.128.193.37.212.1144962956.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Thomas Dolby's Concert Rig... From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:15:58 +0000 (UTC) ...is at: http://blog.thomasdolby.com/?p=36 Gearhounds rejoice. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 21:20:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 669463BEE4; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JR8fYRTReYBTVqHqocLWHxYf/8k2qOY08veZwPWBuYYeK3UexmEkUKvhS5dm9Khh3UXplG30TCM62XE/RMofY0TNULV1PYAbJzmKqeCRU/1eR0MOGrQe+bAldcVSpXLN9OjOTgdDJa9PWkTn3OAHte3nacVZJ1Yydhtccl2wct8= ; Message-ID: <20060413212028.79641.qmail@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:20:28 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: hilariously scary situations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120604131350x34aaa646qb2c124fdb382f456@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:20:31 +0000 (UTC) heh heh,good stuff Tom... your instincts were right when you saw the pile(time for me to leave)lol....what constitutes a fairly successful hardcore band?no fatal overdoses? having evolved from that whole music scene i cant really throw stones,but ill sit around and hit stuff with sticks... kudos for trying to act nonchalant in that situation...now thats a rush! loop n roll forever, scary danny --- Tom Ritchford wrote: > A trifle off-topic... > > My upstairs neighbors many years ago had a fairly > successful hardcore > band and had a party one night so I went up to be > polite. > > There were lots of muscular people with leather > jackets and tattoos. > There was also a huge pile of some undetermined > white powder on the > table when I got into the room, which made me blink > and decide not to > stay so long... > > Unfortunately, within 10 minutes there are two > police officers > standing right there in the (open) door. I try to > act nonchalant and > am freaking out in my head. > > One officer asks, "Who's in charge here?" and my > neighbor (who was a > stand-up guy, a decent musician and human) said, > "Me!' to which the > officer responded, "You have to stop your people on > the roof shooting > roman candles at the gas station"(!) > > Mine host was righteously pissed and immediately > placated the cops, > knocking some sense into the idiots upstairs: "Hey, > asshole! What the > fuck do you think you're doing?" -- the cops left > without mentioning > the incriminating pile... > > and I could breathe again! > > On 4/12/06, Timothy Mungenast > wrote: > > Great story!!! > > No, not all cops are dickheads. Some are very cool > indeed. You'll find some > > damned reasonable ones out there. I have. > > > > ~Tim > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: daniel stevenson > > > To: > > > Date: 4/12/2006 6:18:11 PM > > > Subject: hilariously scary situations > > > > > > the time i was doing a gallery hop busk with a > sack of > > > fungi in my pocket and gutts,and puffin away on > a huge > > > spleef was a hilariously scary moment.im sittin > there > > > wailing away and who walks around the corner and > stops > > > to listen?THE MAN!!!i know im getting a ticket > at the > > > very least and if he finds the other stuff im > goin > > > down...he looks me in the eye and says"keep it > > > down"and tosses a buck in my guitar case i give > em the > > > nod and keep playin as he walks away!as i can > afford > > > the plea bargined disorderlly conduct for the > smoke i > > > still keep one lit while doing the busk,but dose > up > > > and leave the fungi at home is the moral of this > story > > > & not all cops are dickheads...that one made a > friend > > > for life! > > > keep they heads ringin. > > > scary > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > -- > /t > > http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music > calendar > http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... > http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on > intermittently) > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 21:31:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBE3F3BEE1; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060413203410.40EA7CA0BE@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060413203410.40EA7CA0BE@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:26:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Scary Situations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:31:23 +0000 (UTC) At 3:34 PM -0500 4/13/06, joe rut wrote: >I actually know Freebird all the way through, so I often invite the >yeller to come up and sing it while I play it. If that doesn't shut >them up and they >actually come up on stage, I launch into it at triple tempo. They >either walk off stage, or try to sing it at that speed. either way, >it's pretty funny. My admiration for you has risen even higher. That's brilliant. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 22:05:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F5903BEDD; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: CHRISROVER@aol.com Message-ID: <3b3.24eaf6.3170251b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:05:15 EDT Subject: Gig/Booking Software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, CHRISROVER@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3b3.24eaf6.3170251b_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 310 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:05:27 +0000 (UTC) --part1_3b3.24eaf6.3170251b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, as probably all of us I would like to spend less time doing office work and spend more time on music. I have been investigating some software solutions that will also help the people working with me to keep track of all contacts, venues etc. So far the only thing I have found for MAC OSX is: Gigmaster (at http://www.shubb.com/gigm.html ) Don't like the layout very much though. Filemaker might be a solution but I haven't found a proper layout yet and it bugs me that you cannot make phone calls right out of the database under OSX. Wouldn't it be nice to have some software to: - keep track of all venues you have played at or might want to in the future - sort them by distance to your hometown, what days they have performances etc. - tag the ones you have called for automatic recall/reminder - let the software remind you ahead of time of festivals coming up in 6 months etc. - send email or call them directly out of the database with one button - keep track of finances ? Has anyone here had good experiences with any piece of software (Mac or PC) ? If you know of a solution for MAC OSX or a filemaker template that would do the job please e-mail me. Or as they said on SNL "let's discuss" :-) Christian Rover chrisrover@aol.com www.christianrover.com --part1_3b3.24eaf6.3170251b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there,

as probably all of us I would like to spend less time doing office work and=20= spend more time on music.
I have been investigating some software solutions that will also help the pe= ople working with me to keep track of all contacts, venues etc. So far the o= nly thing I have found for MAC OSX is:

Gigmaster  (at http://www.shubb.com/gigm.html )
Don't like the layout very much though.

Filemaker might be a solution but I haven't found a proper layout yet and it= bugs me that you cannot make phone calls right out of the database under OS= X.

Wouldn't it be nice to have some software to:

- keep track of all venues you have played at or might want to in the future=
- sort them by distance to your hometown, what days they have performances e= tc.
- tag the ones you have called for automatic recall/reminder
- let the software remind you ahead of time of festivals coming up in 6 mont= hs etc.
- send email or call them directly out of the database with one button
- keep track of finances ?

Has anyone here had good experiences with any piece of software (Mac or PC)=20= ?

If you know of a solution for MAC OSX or a filemaker template that would do=20= the job please e-mail me.
Or as they said on SNL "let's discuss" :-)

Christian Rover

chrisrover@aol.com
www.christianrover.com --part1_3b3.24eaf6.3170251b_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 22:23:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC5C03BEF6; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Warren Sirota" To: Subject: RE: Scary Situations Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:23:17 -0400 Message-ID: <01b801c65f48$dd8f06e0$f481d80a@delllap> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <003301c65ee4$1fb11050$0207a8c0@eluk1> Importance: Normal X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlx=0 adultscore=3 adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-06041100 definitions=3.0.0-06041315 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Not quite a gig story, but related - There was the time when I was strumming my nylon-string out on a pier on a tropical night in Belize when a drunk local, large-sized (I am not that myself) comes up and asks if he can try my guitar. I let him, but one song turned into two or three, and then he just kinda started walking off towards the other side of the pier with his two female companions (I'm not sure whether the proper interpretation would be girlfriends, prospects or marks...). I had to shout out and insist on the return of my guitar - was kind of nervous about it, but it was ok - he merely returned my guitar with a resentful look. On the other hand, I got to sit in on two gigs with a borrowed electric while on vacation. How often does that happen? Warren April 23 at the Monkey, NYC!!!! Www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 13 23:27:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DCB43BEF1; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LKA0IKZGKg7zCc0OQ2m9F3covjoPqaH6y4U0wpC7pATvgNaYQ2AzRPr/s2xrfN5nu1EyZZLbpkE0fKlpqcZoXaxrIGo4id6pmloWvduQ0nD3FAw8IYDgxuUEMB5jvVqrX92uSAR1BEvrrXmvK79GjQSdy7qkZY1eFALQ4huXDcM= ; Message-ID: <20060413232751.45834.qmail@web37914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:27:51 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: play my guitar? To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:27:55 +0000 (UTC) can i play one on your guitar?depending on the size of the tip i see tossed in the case is one factor.do i smell alchohol?are you a hot chic?(let me show you how to swing a golf club)ive let a few folks take a spin while i controll the loops for tips of 10 bucks and up and they have to tip before asking(unspoken bond.grass gas or ass...isnt that the old saying?ive seen some amazing players and probably sold a lot of dl4's and rc 20xl's that my usual recomendation for folks wanting to get started looping.ive had no security problems(knock on wood)i guess it helps to be scary. lol anyone from this list can "play my guitar" im off to the woods, scary. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 01:13:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BE9D3BEF5; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011401c65f60$cb6f83a0$6602a8c0@raem50> From: "Reid Ertsgaard" To: References: <00dc01c65f08$0414ffe0$9715be18@oemcomputer> <7.0.0.16.0.20060413081945.01a8c088@TheNettles.com> Subject: Re: Secret code (Was: yo yo yo stano) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:55:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:13:16 +0000 (UTC) I had a DELL technician tell me, while he was busy resurrecting my Precision M50 laptop, that they are taught to say "That's Interesting" instead of any number of 4-letter expletives when they've broken something important during a repair. Reid Think Pay attention The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: Secret code (Was: yo yo yo stano) Whenever I spout an opinion that one of my tactful relatives considers completely off-the-wall, she says that it's "interesting". Maybe you guys could start using the word "interesting". Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 01:13:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A3FD3BF01; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011501c65f60$cbc98a80$6602a8c0@raem50> From: "Reid Ertsgaard" To: References: <20060413203410.40EA7CA0BE@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Re: Scary Situations Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:01:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Resent-Message-ID: <1CdfhB.A.0QB.tcvPEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:13:17 +0000 (UTC) When I played in a traditional 4-piece rock band back in the 80's we had a pre-emptive plan. When someone would jump up on stage and sing with us we had a rehearsed plan, our guitarist (who was the band leader) would say "All Right! From the TOP!" and we'd play the song as fast as the drummer could pound it out. Usually at such a break-neck pace that the tune was unrecognizable and the singer unable to form an intelligible syllable and only once did it fail to yield the desired retreat. And that guy was crazy good - so we kept him for another song and then took a break. Imagine "Walk this Way" at 240bpm. "Play it faster! It'll be COOL!" Reid Think Pay attention The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe rut" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Scary Situations I actually know Freebird all the way through, so I often invite the yeller to come up and sing it while I play it. If that doesn't shut them up and they actually come up on stage, I launch into it at triple tempo. They either walk off stage, or try to sing it at that speed. either way, it's pretty funny. Joe Rut > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Weg > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Scary Situations > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:59:33 GMT > > > Freebird.... > Our response is "come back at Thanksgiving and the Union > Mission will serve it for you!" It usually shuts them up > > Weg > -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 01:29:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 678483BEFF; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=KIjtFk3g3yV9RPVymoxtodOxnFxT/+qKmm+54phg7WdTWgHijyoWvnJYB+kmp4UwkdtLVt1rQ1A0WO02xQyRcT0GdHF3oXHCp2HEChkjiJu0kj1Q/V8CMka6xJfPRd3mONDf8VLLWOO5sifvRct37LhNOCUNiHAEYvO2DSXvvNE= ; From: "murkie" To: Subject: RE: play my guitar? Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:29:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20060413232751.45834.qmail@web37914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcZfUeQRMBoLyDnFS4W/ukencxWWLgAEEpwA Message-Id: <20060414012926.0D3AE3BEE2@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:29:27 +0000 (UTC) one of the worst things about playing Stick in a band that still does bars is invariably after every single gig i have at least one inebriated audience member ask me these 2 questions (slurring): 1. hey do you know who Tony Levin is? 2. hey dude, can I try that thing? my guitarist is really adept at distracting said patron until i can get it into the case and on it's way out the door. m -----Original Message----- From: daniel stevenson [mailto:stillllscary@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:28 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: play my guitar? can i play one on your guitar?depending on the size of the tip i see tossed in the case is one factor.do i smell alchohol?are you a hot chic?(let me show you how to swing a golf club)ive let a few folks take a spin while i controll the loops for tips of 10 bucks and up and they have to tip before asking(unspoken bond.grass gas or ass...isnt that the old saying?ive seen some amazing players and probably sold a lot of dl4's and rc 20xl's that my usual recomendation for folks wanting to get started looping.ive had no security problems(knock on wood)i guess it helps to be scary. lol anyone from this list can "play my guitar" im off to the woods, scary. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 01:44:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 376A43BEEE; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=2qazcnCMAHBN/koyUw7voCIyAD91PAU6Tn0PUYUF7ZwHH1pAsFI2FUa/j2XXybtt3CKMftQc4dGiboI7qFtey2rMNxTVstvtUb6d2GJTTavCU36Ve8zCug1hHL5/mL85XoJUUiUe3Kxe3uPnCWGcG+9gJDzU+bEc8+Rd6UxBTg4= ; From: "murkie" To: Subject: RE: Scary Freebird Audience Weirdness Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:44:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <011501c65f60$cbc98a80$6602a8c0@raem50> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcZfYJ4QXCBhIjreSVWHDPgGZuS/IwAAsdlg Message-Id: <20060414014456.9630F3BEE9@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:44:58 +0000 (UTC) it seems i am usually too wrapped up in manipulating technology to notice some of the audience weirdness. twice, i am told by band members and corroborating audience members i have been flashed by a female member of the audience. i have no idea what has prompted this on either occasion (though i'm guessing chemicals or alcohol were contributing factors). ah the joys of gigging in a college town! by recording gigs with a stereo mic out front I have heard some of the strangest audience conversations, my favorite being" girl 1: "freebird!" girl 2: "you know, one of these days you're going to do that and they're actually going to play it." girl 1: (after pondering this momentarily) "nah, they wouldn't... would they?" then there was the time i recorded a one of my gigs and 2 guys were sitting down front near my rack and spent the entire set trying to figure out what was in my rack and how i was doing what i was doing. it was really amusing to hear them try to explain it all to each other. m ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe rut" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Scary Situations I actually know Freebird all the way through, so I often invite the yeller to come up and sing it while I play it. If that doesn't shut them up and they actually come up on stage, I launch into it at triple tempo. They either walk off stage, or try to sing it at that speed. either way, it's pretty funny. Joe Rut > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Weg > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Scary Situations > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:59:33 GMT > > > Freebird.... > Our response is "come back at Thanksgiving and the Union > Mission will serve it for you!" It usually shuts them up > > Weg > -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 06:51:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6906A3BED2; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=btuPYEMNCly5ZDglpvEoCfLB4/MOIfRO//gfDyPvulwFMhIxT1cfO0GL5ZRomesHPdWRwuFJovn8jfXfRKMKUlpjcufxFuv6tz5rjAoFAPLx3cvVuE7hzG918lal8dUN4lQqeLV0wvlfYXkAuP2oSbkpwVHVMqwz0hPEAndAGmA= Message-ID: <588ce11d0604132351v54be8c9cg2fe7a75cf2c55fa2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:51:36 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Line 6 Toneport UX2 vs. RME vs. M-Audio Audiophile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <20wfrC.A.eaE.6Z0PEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:51:38 +0000 (UTC) I just got a Line 6 Toneport UX2 today, and thought people might be interested in the surprising low latency of this USB soundcard. I'm getting _lower_ latency with the UX2 than with either an RME Digi 96/8 PAD or the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI interfaces. I'm running a 3.2 Ghz P4 Shuttle Zen (38% peak on the Ableton Live 5 test--pretty mediocre). I tested each soundcard with the same fairly cpu intensive EnergyXT patch and I'm able to use a 128 buffer at 44.1khz no problem with the UX2. The RME only goes down to 256, (and starts glitching if I go up to 96Khz) and the best the Audiophile could do on the same patch was 384. I find this very surprising, as I've always understood USB soundcards like the UX2 to be inherently inferior to PCI soundcards in terms of latency. In addition to low latency, I find the amp modeling to be excellent, and there are stereo XLR mic inputs with phantom power. I think for $200 this thing is a winner and a great choice for guitarists who use a computer for looping. Worth checking out, though as always YMMV. -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 07:23:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D0173BED5; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 07:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [84.64.199.171] X-Originating-User: [garethwhittock] Message-ID: From: "gareth whittock" To: References: <014e01c65c17$bab11b10$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Out of the loop and shamefull web plug Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:23:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <4EoON.A.SsF.l30PEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 07:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi Guys -have I missed anything? Been out of the loop for a few months - need to get some perspective blah blah. Been working on a myspace site and some new - non- looping stuff with my girlfriend. http://www.myspace.com/pearlsoutofwater if you're interested. Cheers me dears, Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 09:51:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23E253BED8; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=SsY7sbaPbDUyYyzU2bcOMzoSp66lQgrE+mk5M9rMaYIkrQn/5avT16u7qcguRsnwgUZtC/TTt8c9rr8DWgCWnyTw2VS2gBXNiBZ+nCFtgK3b2Hxe2UOrntkbgQp2USWrzmj/CwELjRQCUvVdUzEm66/olLaqhvMW5bi9eMzzw/I= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0604140251h761a8548k50f0843fea012ebc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:51:38 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: att: Zoe Keating MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2949_10434789.1145008298728" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:51:41 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2949_10434789.1145008298728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline > > Hi, I just received an urgent mail from a "music festival group" that is desperately trying too book Zoe Keating for a rather big festival gig in september. "She doesn't answer e-mails", they say and ask me to help out. S= o I didn't come up with a better idea than to post here; Zoe, If you see this - please send a mail to the festival secretary at ericforsmark@mac.com and tell them how to get in touch with you. > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=3D128679= 560&s=3D143456 ------=_Part_2949_10434789.1145008298728 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
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------=_Part_2949_10434789.1145008298728-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 10:54:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A633A3BEC5; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IUvPj8zKS7+UmtqIO945oHLWuAkLkDm7+gJUoB//F/8oSYTXcmL4SJ5zunx1QgnmnfKRbxlYjFh4XBsdD1Rvkx4XqiR6gwbmy+3/kiYJE3i3JbUFHvZkFZEIUpPW8j5SkHhVFzxteHymjK0BvMZ5QBNhVll6Ts6jgsAcyf1hNak= Message-ID: <5b4d09440604140354g7c4e4d2dx2bda0275c0ea3c3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:54:36 -0400 From: "David WINNER" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Yes,I have no midi patch names [or bananas ], just numbers, in DP 4.6. in track window can anyone help??? In-Reply-To: <5b4d09440604140344l5e30c17ej19a0ebe296f21403@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <5b4d09440604140344l5e30c17ej19a0ebe296f21403@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4Mo3O.A.NfE.t93PEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:54:37 +0000 (UTC) > can anyone help me ? when i was using DP3 in 9.2 everything was fine. > Now in 10.4.6 using DP 4.6.1 when i try to use my jv1010 all i get is > numbers where there used to be patch names like " purple spin " what > is going on ??? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 11:56:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D30B3BEC7; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <443F8E00.20607@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:56:48 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: adrian@adrianwest.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: rc 50 no batteries or feedback References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Hello Adrian, I'm sorry, I didn't try this - only used loops 2 and 3 for 'independant' overdubs. But I'm quite sure that this will work the way you want it to (I hope so, as I want to use it in this way, too). I'm going to buy the RC50 when it's available in Germany (May) and will then report my experiences to the list. Dirk > Dirk, > > I have a question about the RC-50 you might be able to answer. When you use the 3 loops for "sequential" looping (i.e. verse, chorus, bridge) can you cue loop 2 to start seamlessly after loop 1 ends or do you have to hit the pedal at just the right moment to transition from loop 1 to loop 2? > > Adrian West > www.adrianwest.com > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dirk Wilbert [mailto:dwilbert@rhein-zeitung.de] >> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:26 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback >> >> >> I tested the RC50 at "Musikmesse" Frankfurt for about half an hour - the >> unit was a bit buggy but I think Boss/Roland won't ship RC50s with >> errors. As I'm new to the "loop topic" I read a lot the last few >> weeks.... most on loopers-delight. I had Electro Harmonix 2880, Boss >> RC50, Digitech Jamman Looper and Electrix Repeater in focus. >> I think it's gonna be the the RC50 - it just felt "right" for me when I >> tested it and the features (stereo / easy interface / 3 loops with own >> foot pedals) are just what I wanted. >> The Electro Harmonix 2880 doesn't feature undo in any way, does it? >> Repeater would have been great (looking at the features) but is the >> company Electrix still alive? A Repeater Mk 2 would be very intersting... >> I did a short test of Digitech Jamman Looper, too but somehow had >> difficulties to get along with it - although it first seemed to be very >> easy to use; maybe I should check it again ... >> All those units I mentioned don't feature feedback, am I right? >> >> Dirk >> >>> My RC-50 is supposed to in Today from Sweetwater and be here >>> >> Mid next week >> >>> via Fedex....I would call Sweetwater as I think they are one of >>> >> the first to >> >>> be getting the RC-50...I had one on order from Musiciansbuy.com and they >>> emailed and said to due to a manufacturer backorder they >>> >> wouldn't be getting >> >>> the units until June!!!...I knew they had been put on the backburner by >>> Roland so they could send units to the higher volume dealers so >>> >> I cancelled >> >>> my order looked around and Sweetwater accomodated. >>> >>> As far as the unit having no feeback control, I can see that >>> >> being an issue >> >>> for ambient loop artists and others but not for the kind of >>> >> thing I want to >> >>> do with the unit. And Batteries...It's rare for a piece of gear >>> >> that complex >> >>> to be able to run on batteries and i'm not sure it would benefit a wide >>> enough sector of users. I Think the RC-50 has great promise for >>> >> some of us. >> >>> Sean Mormelo >>> www.seanmormelo.com >>> www.myspace.com/seanmormelo >>> EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo >>> www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: >>> Cc: "daniel stevenson" >>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: rc 50 no batteries or feedback >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I just ordered mine from AMS and am anxiously awaiting the 5-6-06 ship >>>> >>>> >>> date. This may be a good intermediary device between the EDP >>> >> and lower-end >> >>> loopers. >>> >>> >>>> I also ordered another new device: the Roland HPD-10 cheap-o >>>> >> Handsonic. I >> >>>> >>>> >>> had the big brother and really liked it. I hope this one isn't a >>> pig-in-the-poke. >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> Paul Richards >>>> >>>> ---- daniel stevenson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> im taking boss customer supports word on this.but that >>>>> huge box has no room for batteries#$%#*(%%$...seemed >>>>> confused about the subject of feedback control but >>>>> said the loops stayed infinite....bummer >>>>> will someone please invent wireless power supply or >>>>> night-time solar power...? >>>>> scary Illuminati >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> . >>> >>> >>> > > > > . > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 13:25:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E9713BED6; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:22:38 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #472 for April 13, 2006 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <443FA21E.1020608@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: <-FxnJC.A.rHC.gL6PEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:25:53 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/060413.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, webcasting on the internet, and simulcasting on WXLV 90.3 FM in Schnecksville at Lehigh Carbon Count Community College. Show #472 April 13, 2006 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Sequences electronic music magazine. The Featured CD at Midnight was the CD that came with issue #29. The Vinyl Starter was "Music for Films" by Brian Eno on Antilles Records and released in 1978. Sequences - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/focus.html#apr PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================== Brian Eno Aragon Music for Films (Antilles) Brian Eno From the Same Hill Music for Films (Antilles) Klaus Schulze Floating Sequence Moondawn (Revisited) Jonathan Badger Beat On Metasonic (High Horse) Broekhuis, Keller, and Walking Live @ Dorfkirche Relepen Schonwalder (Manikin) Robert Rich Electric Ladder Electric Ladder (Soundscape) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================== Robert Rich Shadowline Electric Ladder (Soundscape) VA [Andy Pickford] Binarhythm Sequences No. 29 (emma) VA [Radio Massacre Republic Revisited Sequences No. 29 (emma) International] VA [Intelligentsia] Love Heroine Sequences No. 29 (emma) VA [Stephanie Sante] Blossom Sequences No. 29 (emma) VA [The Glimmer Room] 4 am Frost Sequences No. 29 (emma) VA [`ramp] Liquid Transparencies Sequences No. 29 (emma) VA [Mark Jenkins] Akiro's Madness Sequences No. 29 (emma) VA [Natasha Barrett] Exploratio Invisibilis Sequences No. 29 (emma) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Sequences magazine. The Featured CD at Midnight will be the CD that came with issue #30. The Vinyl Starter will be "Nada" by Peter Michael Hamel on Wergo Records and released in 1977. Bill =============================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville, on 92.9 FM, on Service Electric Cable, and on WXLV 90.3 FM in Schnecksville. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/podcasts.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 18:02:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1D983BEE1; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FPJNlf/Jx+LJCHk+Ct+NfgM9esFTR83TGWo4gDJDM2ckgFz8yksvMX5D1UXBi+xlnChL0RBqe0Rcv+fuk2i8/0O7FejGM+frwvRPtJpj8HTZFL4ZMn6PFspaegsmr6fpOmNqBon+FsEiIatuU+H4zXD5vm066OnV5+LTJa6MhNM= ; Message-ID: <20060414180208.50165.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: play my guitar? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060414012926.0D3AE3BEE2@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-_8yuC.A.WuD.iO-PEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Whew, I fell lucky to have never been asked that. I did, however, get rid of my Mackie powered PA speakers because every person I knew who DJ'ed would inevitably ask to barrow them for a show. I was lending them out more than I was using them myself. The worst I get is, "HEY! You're missing part of your guitar!" (I play a Steinberber) I swear, that one never gets old. --- murkie wrote: > one of the worst things about playing Stick in a > band that still does bars > is invariably after every single gig i have at least > one inebriated audience > member ask me these 2 questions (slurring): > > 1. hey do you know who Tony Levin is? > > 2. hey dude, can I try that thing? > > my guitarist is really adept at distracting said > patron until i can get it > into the case and on it's way out the door. > > m > > -----Original Message----- > From: daniel stevenson > [mailto:stillllscary@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:28 PM > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: play my guitar? > > can i play one on your guitar?depending on the size > of the tip i see tossed > in the case is one factor.do i smell alchohol?are > you a hot chic?(let me > show you how to swing a golf club)ive let a few > folks take a spin while i > controll the loops for tips of 10 bucks and up and > they have to tip before > asking(unspoken bond.grass gas or ass...isnt that > the old saying?ive seen > some amazing players and probably sold a lot of > dl4's and rc 20xl's that my > usual recomendation for folks wanting to get started > looping.ive had no > security problems(knock on wood)i guess it helps to > be scary. > lol anyone from this list can "play my guitar" > im off to the woods, > scary. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 18:08:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 729773BEDF; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2h190YdKnNSSgLs/eNQHWP5ee0ZUe7U7b2BvOUFfZ/VtOvwRrJxiCXGq2eIwjuw7xlORFq5LgqZmONJSCLqu23W9HxcxymMWn470tG3P+HmULVNg/9SDDEOqRCYQ02E2CpyBtvPKh62+1Ov0JaTVqIVY9736Sq0uj5Hh1btBEZM= ; Message-ID: <20060414180811.80040.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:08:11 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Out of the loop and shamefull web plug To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <6a1yH.A.LEE.MU-PEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:08:13 +0000 (UTC) You missed one of the most exciting looper launches the world has ever seen. http://www.looperlative.com Man, I love this box. I haven't said much about it yet, as I'm still learning it... or more accurately, how to control it. It's really a pretty simple (but powerful) box, but it allows you to make these "macros" so a single midi message can trigger 8 commands. I'm still trying to figure out what I want those events to be! btw, I dig your music. Very nice Massive Attack kind of feel. My favorite. --- gareth whittock wrote: > Hi Guys -have I missed anything? > Been out of the loop for a few months - need to get > some perspective blah > blah. > Been working on a myspace site and some new - non- > looping stuff with my > girlfriend. > http://www.myspace.com/pearlsoutofwater > if you're interested. > > Cheers me dears, > > Gareth > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 18:31:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DEF33BEE8; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:31:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Scary Situations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: David Trenkel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <8pJGGC.A.cqE.xp-PEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:31:14 +0000 (UTC) On Thursday, April 13, 2006, at 02:26 PM, David Gans wrote: > At 3:34 PM -0500 4/13/06, joe rut wrote: >> I actually know Freebird all the way through, so I often invite the >> yeller to come up and sing it while I play it. If that doesn't shut >> them up and they >> actually come up on stage, I launch into it at triple tempo. They >> either walk off stage, or try to sing it at that speed. either way, >> it's pretty funny. > > My admiration for you has risen even higher. That's brilliant. > > There's a singer/songwriter in Eugene who does a very dark acoustic version of Freebird, imagine Nick Drake covering it, and you'd be close. Very cool. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 18:46:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CFBD3BEFE; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:46:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Scary Situations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: David Trenkel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Someone on this thread mentioned how they get audience members coming up to talk to them while doing looping/ambient gigs, while it doesn't happen at band gigs. Whenever our DJ sets up at the front of the stage, he gets people coming up and asking him questions, making requests, etc, even though he's playing. They'll even set their drinks on the tables that hold his decks. Unbelievable. On a similar note, he was asked to DJ at a coffeshop in Portland the day after our last gig there. We all went, and our horn players were planning to sit in for a tune or two. We were informed by the management that their ASCAP/BMI agreements didn't allow the playing of musical instruments at the shop. But turntables are OK. That was the final proof that we needed to show that turntables are not instruments! I mean, if ASCAP says so... Actually, I don't believe this in the least, I pretty much believe that anything anyone uses to create cool sounds can be considered a musical instrument, and any person making those sounds a musician. And I think our DJ is a pretty musical guy. But this incident just gave us an excuse to give him an endless raft of sh*t, always a good thing in any band. BTW, we have a gig tonight opening for one of my favorite musicians on the planet, Wayne Horvitz. Seeing him in 1989 in his trio with Bobby Previte and Butch Morris was one of those life-changing, career-changing musical moments. We're opening for his group Sweeter than the Day, his piano-based quartet. Also, it's a chance for us to play in a concert hall, listener-friendly setting. I'm seriously intimidated, in the best possible way, by this gig. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 20:09:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C70E3BEF7; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: cburke55@comcast.net (Christophe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: play my guitar? Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:09:42 +0000 Message-Id: <041420062009.14667.44400186000E739A0000394B2200734830CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: Y2J1cmtlNTVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:09:46 +0000 (UTC) I play one too, and isn't that the truth! I usually castigate the offender for their lack of taste and sensitivity in mocking an amputee. Chris > The worst I get is, "HEY! You're missing part of your > guitar!" (I play a Steinberber) > > I swear, that one never gets old. > > --- murkie wrote: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 23:06:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE91E3BEF9; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XoyUt5v2YiDm2V0jzxE0zsoYvXtvlKmG61tl275RAQZChT54CUlU2tSIhn5o1sZ04/knPYgx4kG9EqN1z4stY0wizVEq0Y/JwtwiJCIcb3X/QoSbyiOTCog/BXW3yKhKjlHF18S/USDdPta5IsLZ0jmRXtfYwcUVU+n80Pl3Rnc= ; Message-ID: <20060414230605.992.qmail@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:06:05 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: about ninjam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1f8b01c65a5f$8037eea0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Hm, I thought your tempo was kind of "locked" due to the nature of Ninjam. It works because the latency is extended to a logical quantize point: a measure. For it to work you'd have to define the exact length of that measure and therefore the bmp, no? So why not be synced? Being free is nice if the people with you can react in real time. If you're listening to me a measure ago and I'm changing my tempo it's going to be a car crash. Of course, the musical version of a car crash might be fun. --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > For me, the most beneficial feature of Nijmam is > that many people can steam > through the same server. That's a beautful thing. > Sure, you can sync, but > it's not in real time. You still have the time delay > (it's just packaged up > in a synced way), so the performance is not two or > more people playing > together in real-time in the strict sense of the > term, like what is the case > when playing in person. So, if you are fine with > playing over someone's part > that has been played 15-30 seconds beforehand (or > whatever it happens to > be), that's cool. I guess if you are syncing local > software, that is a > different matter, but I personally dislike that sort > of collaboration...I > don't like a machine correcting or defning my meter > for me. It's annoying > and unnatural for me. I like to keep things > freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andreas Wetterberg" > > To: > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: about ninjam > > > > You *can* choose to ignore the midi clock, but > then you lose the whole > > point of ninjam, namely that you can actually play > in sync with others > > online. > > > > For what it's worth we managed to keep two ableton > Live computer in sync > > over Ninjam for about an hour... a bit of nudging > here, a bit of fiddling > > there... > > > > > > Doug Cox wrote: > >> Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - > interested in hearing if > >> you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your > hosted server. > >> > >> Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It > seems like Ninjam > >> forces a BPM on you, and of course, without that > BPM being translated to > >> a MIDI clock or similar it seems like your loops > would eventually fall > >> out of synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just > working with very ambient > >> pieces and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > >> > >> I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with > my looping via MIDI clock > >> :( > >> > >> Anyone? > >> > >> Krispen Hartung wrote: > >>> You install the software and then you go to > >>> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a > server and plug in the > >>> data into the Ninjam software you > installed...then wait for the people > >>> to flock to you like moths to a flame. > >>> Kris > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> *From:* romain sido > > >>> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com > > >>> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > >>> *Subject:* about ninjam > >>> > >>> hi > >>> > >>> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. > Ive downloaded it but > >>> i have no idea of how to use this software. > Can you please help > >>> me, tell me how ninjam works. > >>> > >>> thanks, > >>> > >>> bye > >>> > >>> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> MSN Hotmail sur i-mode™ : envoyez et recevez > des e-mails depuis > >>> votre téléphone portable ! > > >> > >> > >> . > >> > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 14 23:35:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 996A73BF01; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: about ninjam Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 01:35:35 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000a01c6601c$216b51b0$0601a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20060414230605.992.qmail@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcZgGALaTciVhOOxTzS+9y+FkIkAsgABAI7g Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:35:41 +0000 (UTC) It is...keep waiting for a recording of a ninjam jam I'm about to put = online which includes a tempo change which worked for some reason I do not understand.=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: mark sottilaro [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com]=20 > Gesendet: Samstag, 15. April 2006 01:06 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: about ninjam >=20 > Hm, I thought your tempo was kind of "locked" due to the=20 > nature of Ninjam. It works because the latency is extended=20 > to a logical quantize point: a measure. For it to work you'd=20 > have to define the exact length of that measure and therefore=20 > the bmp, no? So why not be synced? Being free is nice if=20 > the people with you can react in real time. If you're=20 > listening to me a measure ago and I'm changing my tempo it's=20 > going to be a car crash. Of course, the musical version of a=20 > car crash might be fun. >=20 > --- Krispen Hartung wrote: >=20 > > For me, the most beneficial feature of Nijmam is that many=20 > people can=20 > > steam through the same server. That's a beautful thing. > > Sure, you can sync, but > > it's not in real time. You still have the time delay (it's just=20 > > packaged up in a synced way), so the performance is not two or more=20 > > people playing together in real-time in the strict sense of=20 > the term,=20 > > like what is the case when playing in person. So, if you=20 > are fine with=20 > > playing over someone's part that has been played 15-30 seconds=20 > > beforehand (or whatever it happens to be), that's cool. I=20 > guess if you=20 > > are syncing local software, that is a different matter, but I=20 > > personally dislike that sort of collaboration...I don't=20 > like a machine=20 > > correcting or defning my meter for me. It's annoying and=20 > unnatural for=20 > > me. I like to keep things freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee > >=20 > > Kris > >=20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas Wetterberg" > > > > To: > > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:02 AM > > Subject: Re: about ninjam > >=20 > >=20 > > > You *can* choose to ignore the midi clock, but > > then you lose the whole > > > point of ninjam, namely that you can actually play > > in sync with others > > > online. > > > > > > For what it's worth we managed to keep two ableton > > Live computer in sync > > > over Ninjam for about an hour... a bit of nudging > > here, a bit of fiddling > > > there... > > > > > > > > > Doug Cox wrote: > > >> Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - > > interested in hearing if > > >> you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your > > hosted server. > > >> > > >> Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It > > seems like Ninjam > > >> forces a BPM on you, and of course, without that > > BPM being translated to > > >> a MIDI clock or similar it seems like your loops > > would eventually fall > > >> out of synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just > > working with very ambient > > >> pieces and ignoring the Ninjam clock? > > >> > > >> I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with > > my looping via MIDI clock > > >> :( > > >> > > >> Anyone? > > >> > > >> Krispen Hartung wrote: > > >>> You install the software and then you go to=20 > > >>> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a > > server and plug in the > > >>> data into the Ninjam software you > > installed...then wait for the people > > >>> to flock to you like moths to a flame. > > >>> Kris > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> *From:* romain sido > > > > >>> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com > > > > >>> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM > > >>> *Subject:* about ninjam > > >>> > > >>> hi > > >>> > > >>> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. > > Ive downloaded it but > > >>> i have no idea of how to use this software. > > Can you please help > > >>> me, tell me how ninjam works. > > >>> > > >>> thanks, > > >>> > > >>> bye > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ** > > >>> > > >>> =20 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > >>> MSN Hotmail sur i-mode=99 : envoyez et recevez > > des e-mails depuis > > >>> votre t=E9l=E9phone portable ! > > > > >> > > >> > > >> . > > >> > > > > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection=20 > around http://mail.yahoo.com=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 15 02:35:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E075F3BF00; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 02:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hCsaE5KPCjc+w/HX0k6tzXm9RNos453ZNxguiaZePnj8w/TaRZaoMnPU8nxvdg/SYC+vYw4arbNIB9n3MNPo9dEIVcVLYbXMq9QEjiEPHEJ9AuUAqZfkC3kKQu7H4Q8/72BPyptY5oe3A0RmRVILKzHBw8m0+GjXYvNGcZZiSM0= Message-ID: <913728d60604141935s66acdf52y92dfb93476bd65ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:35:38 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line 6 Toneport UX2 vs. RME vs. M-Audio Audiophile In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0604132351v54be8c9cg2fe7a75cf2c55fa2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <588ce11d0604132351v54be8c9cg2fe7a75cf2c55fa2@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 02:35:39 +0000 (UTC) yeah, i have the UX2 as well and it pretty much rocks :) i really am interested in buying the FX junkie add-on...those sound really cool! but yeah, the latency is very good, and the modeling is very good :) I would definatly recommend to anyone! Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 15 03:15:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 705293BF05; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 03:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02e601c6603a$cfae3cb0$47b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <20060414230605.992.qmail@web81312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: about ninjam Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:15:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 533, in=285159, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 03:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Yes, that's true, as Rainer indicated...BUT, you can turn that metronome off. I completely emphasize with folks wanting to play according to a tempo...it's just not my cup of tea to be driven by a non-dynamic meter. It's only a car crash if both people are trying play in metered grooves. I just learn to listen. If I'm doing something with a time signature and meter (my own, not one generated by a machine or piece of software), then it's common sense that the other person doesn't starting doing the same....unless polyrhythms is the objective and it feels right. We trade off, etc. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Hm, I thought your tempo was kind of "locked" due to > the nature of Ninjam. It works because the latency is > extended to a logical quantize point: a measure. For > it to work you'd have to define the exact length of > that measure and therefore the bmp, no? So why not be > synced? Being free is nice if the people with you can > react in real time. If you're listening to me a > measure ago and I'm changing my tempo it's going to be > a car crash. Of course, the musical version of a car > crash might be fun. > > --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> For me, the most beneficial feature of Nijmam is >> that many people can steam >> through the same server. That's a beautful thing. >> Sure, you can sync, but >> it's not in real time. You still have the time delay >> (it's just packaged up >> in a synced way), so the performance is not two or >> more people playing >> together in real-time in the strict sense of the >> term, like what is the case >> when playing in person. So, if you are fine with >> playing over someone's part >> that has been played 15-30 seconds beforehand (or >> whatever it happens to >> be), that's cool. I guess if you are syncing local >> software, that is a >> different matter, but I personally dislike that sort >> of collaboration...I >> don't like a machine correcting or defning my meter >> for me. It's annoying >> and unnatural for me. I like to keep things >> freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andreas Wetterberg" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:02 AM >> Subject: Re: about ninjam >> >> >> > You *can* choose to ignore the midi clock, but >> then you lose the whole >> > point of ninjam, namely that you can actually play >> in sync with others >> > online. >> > >> > For what it's worth we managed to keep two ableton >> Live computer in sync >> > over Ninjam for about an hour... a bit of nudging >> here, a bit of fiddling >> > there... >> > >> > >> > Doug Cox wrote: >> >> Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - >> interested in hearing if >> >> you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your >> hosted server. >> >> >> >> Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It >> seems like Ninjam >> >> forces a BPM on you, and of course, without that >> BPM being translated to >> >> a MIDI clock or similar it seems like your loops >> would eventually fall >> >> out of synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just >> working with very ambient >> >> pieces and ignoring the Ninjam clock? >> >> >> >> I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with >> my looping via MIDI clock >> >> :( >> >> >> >> Anyone? >> >> >> >> Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> You install the software and then you go to >> >>> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a >> server and plug in the >> >>> data into the Ninjam software you >> installed...then wait for the people >> >>> to flock to you like moths to a flame. >> >>> Kris >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> *From:* romain sido >> >> >>> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >> >> >>> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >> >>> *Subject:* about ninjam >> >>> >> >>> hi >> >>> >> >>> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. >> Ive downloaded it but >> >>> i have no idea of how to use this software. >> Can you please help >> >>> me, tell me how ninjam works. >> >>> >> >>> thanks, >> >>> >> >>> bye >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ** >> >>> >> >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et recevez >> des e-mails depuis >> >>> votre téléphone portable ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 15 07:23:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF6133BF02; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Steve Mark" To: Subject: Thomas Dolby Concert Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:23:25 -0700 Organization: On-The-Mark Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <000701c6605d$7cbfd6d0$6701a8c0@maui> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C66022.D060FED0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcZgXXwBensHnwhxQM+3GTWH3d48Mg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:23:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C66022.D060FED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just got back from the Thomas Dolby / Colin Hay concert in Agoura (Los Angeles area). It was great! Dolby started with a 15 second intro then stopped, threw out some t-shirts into the audience saying "new rule: if things don't work, you get t-shirts" then "see you in a few, we have to reboot. I really wish Apple would fix their friggin' software" and a guy came out to reboot his machine. This happened twice, after that it was smooth sailing. At one point he replied to someone in the audience "What, I should get a pc?" Pretty funny. Gotta tell you, I don't perform professionally, but lurking on this list has really opened my eyes, and a lot of the discussion topics on this list were evident in the concert. For example... 1. The aforementioned computer glitches: his whole show requires the computer, and when it tanked, he was dead 2. He had a camera on the console showing his face superimposed on the image from the camera on his head. Watching him play and manipulate the electronics was very cool actually 3. He had a screen, and was tied into the hall's screens, showing #2 above but also mini videos that went with the songs, as well as some minor lighting, all of which enhanced the show 4. He looped a lot, and seeing how he did it, with no apparent sound degradation, and the speed with which he built-up the loops, with multiple audio sources, was inspiring 5. In Colin Hay's act, a guy jumped on the stage. They just went with it, Hay's "dancing girl" (no idea what to call her really) just danced with the guy until the bouncer came and got him. The song went on without interruption Overall, a great time, and since being in the list, I watched it with quite a different eye than I have in the past. Steve Mark LooperTools.com ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C66022.D060FED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just = got back from=20 the Thomas Dolby / Colin Hay concert in Agoura (Los Angeles area).  = It was=20 great!  Dolby started with a 15 second intro then = stopped, threw out=20 some t-shirts into the audience saying "new rule: if things don't work, = you get=20 t-shirts" then "see you in a few, we have to reboot.  I really wish = Apple=20 would fix their friggin' software" and a guy came out to reboot his=20 machine.  This happened twice, after that it was smooth = sailing.  At=20 one point he replied to someone in the audience "What, I should get a = pc?" =20 Pretty funny.
 
Gotta tell you, I=20 don't perform professionally, but lurking on this list has really opened = my=20 eyes, and a lot of the discussion topics on this list were evident in = the=20 concert.  For example...
 
1. = The=20 aforementioned computer glitches: his whole show requires the computer, = and when=20 it tanked, he was dead
2. = He had a camera=20 on the console showing his face superimposed on the image from the = camera on his=20 head.  Watching him play and manipulate the electronics was very = cool=20 actually
3. = He had a=20 screen, and was tied into the hall's screens, showing #2 above but also = mini=20 videos that went with the songs, as well as some minor lighting, all of = which=20 enhanced the show
4. = He looped a=20 lot, and seeing how he did it, with no apparent sound degradation, and = the speed=20 with which he built-up the loops, with multiple audio sources, was=20 inspiring
5. = In Colin Hay's=20 act, a guy jumped on the stage.  They just went with it, Hay's = "dancing=20 girl" (no idea what to call her really) just danced with the guy until = the=20 bouncer came and got him.  The song went on without=20 interruption
 
Overall, a great=20 time, and since being in the list, I watched it with quite a different = eye than=20 I have in the past.
 
Steve=20 Mark
LooperTools.com
=
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C66022.D060FED0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 15 07:37:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96FFB3BF11; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003901c6605f$6d8f8640$6501a8c0@DELL> Reply-To: "Sean Mormelo" From: "Sean Mormelo" To: References: <000701c6605d$7cbfd6d0$6701a8c0@maui> Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby Concert Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:37:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C6601C.5EB4DD20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:37:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C6601C.5EB4DD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He needs a more solid rig apparently..he's using a G5 and Logic to run = everything and it's clearly too glitchy....Going out twice in one gig is = BAD...I would have a complete mirror of the rig on another computer = booted up and ready to patch in if anything went wrong..I wonder why he = doesn't...Weird. Sean Mormelo www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Mark=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:23 PM Subject: Thomas Dolby Concert Just got back from the Thomas Dolby / Colin Hay concert in Agoura (Los = Angeles area). It was great! Dolby started with a 15 second intro then = stopped, threw out some t-shirts into the audience saying "new rule: if = things don't work, you get t-shirts" then "see you in a few, we have to = reboot. I really wish Apple would fix their friggin' software" and a = guy came out to reboot his machine. This happened twice, after that it = was smooth sailing. At one point he replied to someone in the audience = "What, I should get a pc?" Pretty funny. Gotta tell you, I don't perform professionally, but lurking on this = list has really opened my eyes, and a lot of the discussion topics on = this list were evident in the concert. For example... 1. The aforementioned computer glitches: his whole show requires the = computer, and when it tanked, he was dead 2. He had a camera on the console showing his face superimposed on the = image from the camera on his head. Watching him play and manipulate the = electronics was very cool actually 3. He had a screen, and was tied into the hall's screens, showing #2 = above but also mini videos that went with the songs, as well as some = minor lighting, all of which enhanced the show 4. He looped a lot, and seeing how he did it, with no apparent sound = degradation, and the speed with which he built-up the loops, with = multiple audio sources, was inspiring 5. In Colin Hay's act, a guy jumped on the stage. They just went with = it, Hay's "dancing girl" (no idea what to call her really) just danced = with the guy until the bouncer came and got him. The song went on = without interruption Overall, a great time, and since being in the list, I watched it with = quite a different eye than I have in the past. Steve Mark LooperTools.com ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C6601C.5EB4DD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
He needs a more solid rig = apparently..he's using a=20 G5 and Logic to run everything and it's clearly too glitchy....Going out = twice=20 in one gig is BAD...I would have a complete mirror of the rig on another = computer booted up and ready to patch in if anything went wrong..I = wonder why he=20 doesn't...Weird.
 
Sean Mormelo
www.seanmormelo.com
www.myspace.com/seanmormelo
EPK-=20 www.sonicbids.com/seanmorme= lo
www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo=
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Steve = Mark
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 = 11:23=20 PM
Subject: Thomas Dolby = Concert

Just got back=20 from the Thomas Dolby / Colin Hay concert in Agoura (Los Angeles = area). =20 It was great!  Dolby started with a 15 second intro then=20 stopped, threw out some t-shirts into the audience saying "new = rule: if=20 things don't work, you get t-shirts" then "see you in a few, we have = to=20 reboot.  I really wish Apple would fix their friggin' software" = and a guy=20 came out to reboot his machine.  This happened twice, after that = it was=20 smooth sailing.  At one point he replied to someone in the = audience=20 "What, I should get a pc?"  Pretty funny.
 
Gotta tell you,=20 I don't perform professionally, but lurking on this list has really = opened my=20 eyes, and a lot of the discussion topics on this list were evident in = the=20 concert.  For example...
 
1. = The=20 aforementioned computer glitches: his whole show requires the = computer, and=20 when it tanked, he was dead
2. = He had a=20 camera on the console showing his face superimposed on the image from = the=20 camera on his head.  Watching him play and manipulate the = electronics was=20 very cool actually
3. = He had a=20 screen, and was tied into the hall's screens, showing #2 above but = also mini=20 videos that went with the songs, as well as some minor lighting, all = of which=20 enhanced the show
4. = He looped a=20 lot, and seeing how he did it, with no apparent sound degradation, and = the=20 speed with which he built-up the loops, with multiple audio sources, = was=20 inspiring
5. = In Colin=20 Hay's act, a guy jumped on the stage.  They just went with it, = Hay's=20 "dancing girl" (no idea what to call her really) just danced with the = guy=20 until the bouncer came and got him.  The song went on without=20 interruption
 
Overall, a great=20 time, and since being in the list, I watched it with quite a different = eye=20 than I have in the past.
 
Steve=20 Mark
LooperTools.com
=
------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C6601C.5EB4DD20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 15 13:39:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E362B3BED3; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0604140251h761a8548k50f0843fea012ebc@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0604140251h761a8548k50f0843fea012ebc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--702509990 Message-Id: <195F1E09-B7FF-40B6-84B1-BA413F6AE525@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: att: Zoe Keating Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:40:14 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-Server-Quench: 526dfb29-cc85-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:39:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--702509990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I certainly do answer my emails!! On Apr 14, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I just received an urgent mail from a "music festival group" that > is desperately trying too book Zoe Keating for a rather big > festival gig in september. "She doesn't answer e-mails", they say > and ask me to help out. So I didn't come up with a better idea than > to post here; > > Zoe, If you see this - please send a mail to the festival secretary > at ericforsmark@mac.com and tell them how to get in touch with you. > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast? > id=128679560&s=143456 --Apple-Mail-1--702509990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I certainly do answer my = emails!!=A0

On Apr 14, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Per Boysen = wrote:

Hi,
=A0
I just received an = urgent mail from=A0a "music festival group"=A0that is desperately trying = too book Zoe Keating for a rather big festival gig in september. "She = doesn't answer e-mails", they say and ask me to help out. So I didn't = come up with a better idea than to post here;
=A0
=
Zoe, If you see this - please send a mail to the festival secretary = at ericforsmark@mac.com=A0and = tell them how to get in touch with you.
=A0
--

Greetings from = Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com = (international)
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/vi= ewPodcast?id=3D128679560&s=3D143456 =

= --Apple-Mail-1--702509990-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 15 15:57:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3CFF3BEB6; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:56:58 -0300 From: Andrew Duke Subject: The Choir Boys With Strings--awesome CD To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <444117CA.3050508@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <005101c65aaf$b7132660$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <212601c65ab6$0b88a4d0$35b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <2203aceb85c895c1f5c803c717426120@pfmentum.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 (CK-SillyDog) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:57:14 +0000 (UTC) I think I may have mentioned this before, but it not, I urge all ya'll to check out The Choir Boys With Strings (featuring Loopers-Delight member Jeff Kaiser, plus Andrew Pask, G.E.Stinson, and Steuart Liebig. Awesome stuff! More info here: http://pfmentum.com Have a good weekend, everybody. Andrew "fightin' the flu" Duke :( -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 15 19:17:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 265733BECF; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Music Flames forum X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = 99014627e7a5fa99465b1c8791a6ccc3 Reply-To: decadence@excite.com From: "Monica Lokisdottir" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: decadence@excite.com X-Mailer: PHP Importance: High X-Priority: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20060415191732.B55EA3742D@xprdmailfe14.nwk.excite.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-ID: <5mGbiB.A.rbE.ObUQEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Hey - Just a short note to mention the return of the Music Flames forum. Focus on experimental, electronica, nu+alt-jazz, all fusions, prog, etc. + spontaneous creative discussion. And everyone is welcome to shamelessly plug their projects. Club Med for your head... Check us out at music_flames@yahoogroups.com Cheers, Monica _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 15 20:20:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EF193BECF; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <04ab01c660ca$0828f500$47b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <20060415191732.B55EA3742D@xprdmailfe14.nwk.excite.com> Subject: Re: Music Flames forum Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:20:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 531, in=272435, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:20:29 +0000 (UTC) What is the URL? It doesn't come up when I search for it on Yahoo Groups. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Hey - > Just a short note to mention the return of the Music Flames > forum. Focus on experimental, electronica, nu+alt-jazz, > all fusions, prog, etc. + spontaneous creative discussion. > And everyone is welcome to shamelessly plug their projects. > Club Med for your head... > Check us out at music_flames@yahoogroups.com > Cheers, > Monica > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 01:32:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B81E3BEC5; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qm65wU4VLC6BecbjZ0+1OM3jSEhCEPGrJMcAo25uICnND11vltz7gDfIJOJNLHD7cpXPDWu4+Ixmnu3RUYG+NQERZCImX6nc6LIl6GocYdiG3ismo8VZohqtZUx2Fgi/xq5Hm5Ih8zpye1TIOq0TVpUuGsKQ0Ll2jmliiCp3c2M= ; Message-ID: <20060416013203.88424.qmail@web81310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:32:03 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby Concert To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <003901c6605f$6d8f8640$6501a8c0@DELL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I've been runing everything out of Digital Performer, and while it's stable there is NO way I'd play even a small gig using it as my only sequence source. I'd always have a track or two programmed on a drummachine just in case. My company produces corporate events and we never, ever go in without two laptops running a show's presentations so if one goes down you can just switch to the other. Sounds like Mr. Dolby maybe needs another G5. Mark --- Sean Mormelo wrote: > He needs a more solid rig apparently..he's using a > G5 and Logic to run everything and it's clearly too > glitchy.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 01:44:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01C8F3BEB5; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lYnxkLs5Hvi02MR9yTJbeYOWzMGOg+NuXg3MYhAQyW1LWilHXai2bKzxtU0syC7sEvCBfW+WCPLrJeobO6AROjGdcwhHJI/HuV5fBD1yRyRyL5OqQnvMKtJduq/0HNMOS0A14elusqZLfyc6XogSJo9pam7qxkWKhm1JXIftRyk= ; Message-ID: <20060416014434.41395.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:44:33 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: about ninjam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <02e601c6603a$cfae3cb0$47b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Right, I get it... but even though you're listening... you're listening to the past. If your jam mate changes there's bound to be some catch up time. I'm sure 2 good musicians will keep it together, but I imagine that measure delay would take some getting used to. Mark --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > Yes, that's true, as Rainer indicated...BUT, you can > turn that metronome > off. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 02:45:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1FD63BECC; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Flames forum X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = 0bc8b8cc61b08894cf564c03c5178e44 Reply-To: decadence@excite.com From: "Monica Lokisdottir" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: decadence@excite.com X-Mailer: PHP Importance: High X-Priority: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20060416024513.84528B57FA@xprdmxin.myway.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 22:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Well it looks like you found it...welcome aboard! Unfortunately no one else is because it's not coming up in the yahoogroups search engine. For anyone else who may want to check it out, the only thing I can think of is to send an email to music_flames-subscribe@yahoogroups.com and you'll be on the list - then if it really annoys the hell out of you send to music_flames-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com and it will stop. Hopefully more people will find it soon. Monica --- On Sat 04/15, Krispen Hartung < khartung@cableone.net > wrote: From: Krispen Hartung [mailto: khartung@cableone.net] To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:20:25 -0600 Subject: Re: Music Flames forum What is the URL? It doesn't come up when I search for it on Yahoo Groups.

Kris

----- Original Message -----


> Hey -
> Just a short note to mention the return of the Music Flames
> forum. Focus on experimental, electronica, nu+alt-jazz,
> all fusions, prog, etc. + spontaneous creative discussion.
> And everyone is welcome to shamelessly plug their projects.
> Club Med for your head...
> Check us out at music_flames@yahoogroups.com
> Cheers,
> Monica
>


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 03:12:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 787F83BECC; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 03:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:13:06 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Music Flames forum In-Reply-To: <20060416024513.84528B57FA@xprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: References: <20060416024513.84528B57FA@xprdmxin.myway.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 03:12:16 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Monica Lokisdottir wrote: > Well it looks like you found it...welcome aboard! > Unfortunately no one else is because it's not coming up > in the yahoogroups search engine. For anyone else who http://groups.yahoo.com/group/music_flames regards, Steve B http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 03:43:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E471C3BEC5; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 03:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <053f01c66107$faf826b0$47b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <20060416014434.41395.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: about ninjam Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:43:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -chris -interface -kindly -https -solving -mails -registration -queue +yahoo X-Aspam: URLS scored 0.8 yahoo.com servername.com netwin.co.nz X-Aspam: Best match was sample c:\good\1052269076.289_200.ball X-Aspam: Total 0.8 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 531, in=272526, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 03:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Understood. Though honestly given my experience with Ninjam so far (including my hour session last night with random folks), I am completely oblivous to any delay. What I hear, in my mind, is as good as instantaneous. I treat it as such, and react likewise, at least. It's a lot of fun. I plan on getting on Ninjam more now. Kris > Right, I get it... but even though you're listening... > you're listening to the past. If your jam mate > changes there's bound to be some catch up time. I'm > sure 2 good musicians will keep it together, but I > imagine that measure delay would take some getting > used to. > > Mark > > --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Yes, that's true, as Rainer indicated...BUT, you can >> turn that metronome >> off. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 04:41:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D70A3BEB5; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 04:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Music Flames forum Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:41:39 -0400 Message-ID: <003d01c66110$0ec32980$0200a8c0@pcdaw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20060416024513.84528B57FA@xprdmxin.myway.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcZhC8/J97hlzGNdQjux/Y75pYa6GAAA9JkA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 04:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Go to... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/music_flames/ or http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/music_flames/ Tony -----Original Message----- From: Monica Lokisdottir [mailto:decadence@excite.com] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:45 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Flames forum Well it looks like you found it...welcome aboard! Unfortunately no one else is because it's not coming up in the yahoogroups search engine. For anyone else who may want to check it out, the only thing I can think of is to send an email to music_flames-subscribe@yahoogroups.com and you'll be on the list - then if it really annoys the hell out of you send to music_flames-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com and it will stop. Hopefully more people will find it soon. Monica --- On Sat 04/15, Krispen Hartung < khartung@cableone.net > wrote: From: Krispen Hartung [mailto: khartung@cableone.net] To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:20:25 -0600 Subject: Re: Music Flames forum What is the URL? It doesn't come up when I search for it on Yahoo Groups.

Kris

----- Original Message -----


> Hey -
> Just a short note to mention the return of the Music Flames
> forum. Focus on experimental, electronica, nu+alt-jazz,
> all fusions, prog, etc. + spontaneous creative discussion.
> And everyone is welcome to shamelessly plug their projects.
> Club Med for your head...
> Check us out at music_flames@yahoogroups.com
> Cheers,
> Monica
>


_______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 05:19:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 363933BECA; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=48eoW3eCEUpiGdtP7tcKTn1SfvH+OpqhfEBvLSsXi6nq80nKs4Wq91+ObY5ZJCvldED3KAKPVBsaEQJkhHguOip/Uytw5n2/DyZF2UsTMp2nWE2aeyA+FxCUy77yR/FfoTACvGOPQMcI8lDLwsSlWD956G2alZWfuSg50TB3ASE= ; Message-ID: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 22:19:09 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Phil Keaggy video To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:19:11 +0000 (UTC) a nice looping performance of Salvation Army Band. http://www.olsonguitars.com/videovault.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 06:05:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 960B33BED2; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Music Flames forum X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = f1376c85ef0ff7c52ea556395a2f566e Reply-To: decadence@excite.com From: "Monica Lokisdottir" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: decadence@excite.com X-Mailer: PHP Importance: High X-Priority: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20060416060510.79DB42F59B@xprdmxin.myway.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Tony + Steve for the links... 8 - ) But we still need to get it in the search engine so more people on yahoogroups access it. When you search the name nothing comes up. Monica --- On Sun 04/16, Tony K < bigtony@softhome.net > wrote: From: Tony K [mailto: bigtony@softhome.net] To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:41:39 -0400 Subject: RE: Music Flames forum Go to...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/music_flames/
or
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/music_flames/

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Monica Lokisdottir [mailto:decadence@excite.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:45 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Music Flames forum

Well it looks like you found it...welcome aboard!
Unfortunately no one else is because it's not coming up
in the yahoogroups search engine. For anyone else who
may want to check it out, the only thing I can think of
is to send an email to music_flames-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
and you'll be on the list - then if it really annoys the hell
out of you send to music_flames-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
and it will stop. Hopefully more people will find it soon.
Monica


--- On Sat 04/15, Krispen Hartung < khartung@cableone.net > wrote:
From: Krispen Hartung [mailto: khartung@cableone.net]
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:20:25 -0600
Subject: Re: Music Flames forum

What is the URL? It doesn't come up when I search for it on Yahoo
Groups.

Kris

----- Original Message -----


> Hey
-
> Just a short note to mention the return of the Music Flames
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_______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 07:19:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D005F3BEB8; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=K6IeFBNH61s7XziIxqpI7UokulSATx9HpSv8sBj/H9YN9SDGOFUHsftvAJ5tEyf8kdseo27ofvOtQGMWFC4sZB8vOpFKNaa6sYb+5GZF9P9ZAQ2VB53oHvAJHZj1DrvF1YabiDgNUg6yoDDAI6NtSHyj+bx+m6MGknfDVrg055s= Message-ID: <2665e0c50604160019x404a27c0if3ad2069816a877a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:19:14 -0500 From: "Ben M" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: a cello rondo (slightly OT) In-Reply-To: <00a701c65f08$e89eb4d0$6602a8c0@Ruelle2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30096_20038926.1145171954070" References: <00a701c65f08$e89eb4d0$6602a8c0@Ruelle2> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:19:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30096_20038926.1145171954070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Nuts! I love it! On 4/13/06, Ben wrote: > > Not really looping but might have been. > > http://www.ethanwiner.com/rondo.html > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver > directement vos services pr=E9f=E9r=E9s : v=E9rifiez vos nouveaux mails, = lancez vos > recherches et suivez l'actualit=E9 en temps r=E9el. > Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set > > ------=_Part_30096_20038926.1145171954070 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Nuts!  I love it!

On 4/13/06, = Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr<= /a>> wrote:
Not really looping but might hav= e been.

http://www.= ethanwiner.com/rondo.html





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------=_Part_30096_20038926.1145171954070-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 07:21:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2B203BED8; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eaLO0Bn4foe4gwg78YRYjDjxVyZ7YrhkG5UC5PCAiGOGPAJBtshwSQDTHJYp9tJ9fY0P490gKGHCGiuU/KhiPknCTHeDJbgbXxqeto0aw4BX3aEqLZz5tYa3ir9vvFncqwjJogM2M2xtwXgdiwfJHyYUl9qjo3IXOXTwhmCZSWE= Message-ID: <2665e0c50604160021n42e97a8eha54f1b2565020d51@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:21:18 -0500 From: "Ben M" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: a cello rondo (slightly OT) In-Reply-To: <2665e0c50604160019x404a27c0if3ad2069816a877a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30112_1113235.1145172078943" References: <00a701c65f08$e89eb4d0$6602a8c0@Ruelle2> <2665e0c50604160019x404a27c0if3ad2069816a877a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:21:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30112_1113235.1145172078943 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The part I like best is when all five of him are sitting in front of the giant bridge. The one in the pink shirt is the craziest, and the one in th= e two in the bow ties are the stodgiest. On 4/16/06, Ben M wrote: > > Nuts! I love it! > > > On 4/13/06, Ben wrote: > > > > Not really looping but might have been. > > > > http://www.ethanwiner.com/rondo.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________= ____ > > Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver > > directement vos services pr=E9f=E9r=E9s : v=E9rifiez vos nouveaux mails= , lancez vos > > recherches et suivez l'actualit=E9 en temps r=E9el. > > Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set > > > > > ------=_Part_30112_1113235.1145172078943 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The part I like best is when all five of him are sitting in front of the gi= ant bridge.  The one in the pink shirt is the craziest, and the one in= the two in the bow ties are the stodgiest.

On 4/16/06, = Ben M <fantasydate@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Nuts!  I love it!


On 4/13/06, = Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr<= /a>> wrote: =20
Not really looping but might hav= e been.

 http://www.ethanwiner.com/rondo.html





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------=_Part_30112_1113235.1145172078943-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 07:23:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 172783BECF; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Y0HygNMs7LeaeFdsUoY/YOfyqOBp598xFXT0O/Ajy2M0VzmwENNzTUxe1AWZTTyhVJdZx5m2aPtKez5039fr+FVw388KeJMYicyVf2SuHGAxrVsX1DfukQwqNdI0M2Mtp7cTQORw6945DcGz7Zbe6BY/DZT2KJS0Nfg8cvermYk= Message-ID: <2665e0c50604160023v6c8880d4w7ed30cca576f82aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:23:13 -0500 From: "Ben M" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: att: Zoe Keating In-Reply-To: <195F1E09-B7FF-40B6-84B1-BA413F6AE525@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30128_17204216.1145172193854" References: <66f9cc1e0604140251h761a8548k50f0843fea012ebc@mail.gmail.com> <195F1E09-B7FF-40B6-84B1-BA413F6AE525@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:23:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30128_17204216.1145172193854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I just thought of the very, very worst joke! ------=_Part_30128_17204216.1145172193854 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
I just thought of the very, very worst joke!
------=_Part_30128_17204216.1145172193854-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 08:34:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89F843BECF; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=r5RKBWMm9Chf8zoJjVwO4I09U2j9/Qq4Da0uCwD4ahn2G/jF+4RxyUshoVRMGBOeehs/ixqYz4PoI3FxKZHR3Qzv5lt7Nj4J/suwm29lR+5nF9Wk/YlT5//PCSu/QX0RwANbdUuutyTjzWifU3WJP9c8uUmKCEr24esLWZDSD+w= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <620B6EAF-9D9B-45FE-834E-BA64D7D98CA4@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:34:06 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:34:11 +0000 (UTC) On 16 apr 2006, at 07.19, John Tidwell wrote: > a nice looping performance of Salvation Army Band. > http://www.olsonguitars.com/videovault.html Thanks for the tip! Very enjoyable video. Nice to see looping used as such a well integrated part of traditional song performing! What I enjoyed most, though, was the guy's musicality. He should be doing duo (or trio) with someone as musically experienced - that would really be something! (My humble apologies for not having heard Keaggy live before, as I'm based here in Europe) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 09:40:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C01223BEB5; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00b301c66139$d9d123b0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:40:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Wow, I just got from a very stimulating show, watching Thomas Dolby hit the stage for the first time in 15 years (except for a short tune up gig two weeks ago in SF). Not only was it a wonderful show in a wonderful venue (The Independent is now hands down, my favorite music venue in San Francisco after having seen Elbow and now Mr. Dolby there). What was very exciting is that every act on the bill used live looping techniques extensively. Genie (who had such a wonderfully creative show at Y2K5) opened up and was really well recieved with his mixture of psychedelic delay drenched guitar, human beatboxing and amazing manipulation of 2 DL4 Line 6s...................sometimes while multitasking with playing slide guitar........while beatboxing................while using his fingers on one DL4 in his lap and his toes with a 2nd one on the floor. The the excellent group LoopStation performed with, again, Line 6 DL4s and what looked from my vantage point to be a Boss gigadelay. The group is a cellist and a singer and they were really wonderful and amazingly full spectrum in their passionate pop songs. They were very, very well recieved by the crowd and I was lucky enough that their cellist gave me one of their CDs to listen to , which I can't wait to put on my hard drive right away. I asked them to come play Y2K6 and he seemed interested so cross your fingers. This was one of the more interesting live looping acts that I've seen and both the cellist and the vocalist used liberal usage of looping in the set. Dolby's set was just sublime replete with wonderful visuals. He had several cameras on his person and there were frequent images from one of them in black and white on the large screen. The cameras were fish eye lens and it was really cool to see him manipulate his gear on the big screen. He also had beautiful looped images accompanying his songs...........including some very powerful emotional imagery of submaries, torpedoes and the ocean during his song, "One of our Submarines". I'm not entirely sure of his setup except to say that I know it's well documented as of yesterday on his website and that he was basically looping inside of LOGIC on a Mac. He seemed to have a nice blend of actually playing parts on keyboards; singing; looping occasional keyboard parts (which I realize could have been real time midi looping or an internally run VST live looping pluging) and then some obviously sequenced parts. The canned-ness of it didn't bother me in the slightest because he really was multi-tasking and playing a lot. He was in fine voice and my only complaint was that I wish his show had been longer than the slightly less than an hour that it was. His equipment failed him twice during the show but he was very entertaining and called attention to the fact.............Every time it screwed up he promised the crowd that he would throw t-shirts to the audience and he did. At one point he dedicated a song to his wife (the reason he moved to L.A. apparently) and she just coincidentally happened to be standing right next to us. I was graciously taken to the show by Glenn Javaheri and his girlfriend who also gave me some video that he shot at the 1st Bass Looping Festival at the San Jose Museum of Art, years ago with Steve Lawson and Michael Manring. It was a wonderful concert and I felt so proud to be in this community and see how high profile some of what we do is getting. This is the first 'normal' show I"ve seen where everyone on the bill was live looping extensively. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 13:15:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 211C23BEB9; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:17:11 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: Scary Situations In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000001c66158$12503320$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Sounds like a cool gig, David - how'd it go? Best wishes, Warren Sirota Come hear *The Sandbox* at The Monkey in NYC, April 23rd, 8PM - details at www.warrensirota.com/sandbox > -----Original Message----- > From: David Trenkel [mailto:improv@peak.org] > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 2:46 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Scary Situations ... > > BTW, we have a gig tonight opening for one of my favorite > musicians on > the planet, Wayne Horvitz. Seeing him in 1989 in his trio with Bobby > Previte and Butch Morris was one of those life-changing, > career-changing musical moments. We're opening for his group Sweeter > than the Day, his piano-based quartet. Also, it's a chance for us to > play in a concert hall, listener-friendly setting. I'm seriously > intimidated, in the best possible way, by this gig. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 13:15:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0C823BED2; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:17:43 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING In-reply-to: <00b301c66139$d9d123b0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000301c66158$25146df0$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the report. I'm going to see if I can get tix to one of the NYC dates. Best wishes, Warren Sirota Come hear *The Sandbox* at The Monkey in NYC, April 23rd, 8PM - details at www.warrensirota.com/sandbox > -----Original Message----- > From: loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 5:41 AM > To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) > Subject: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING > > > Wow, I just got from a very stimulating show, watching > Thomas Dolby hit > the > stage for the first time in 15 years (except for a short tune > up gig two > weeks ago in SF). > > Not only was it a wonderful show in a wonderful venue (The > Independent is > now hands down, > my favorite music venue in San Francisco after having seen > Elbow and now Mr. > Dolby there). > > What was very exciting is that every act on the bill used > live looping > techniques extensively. > > Genie (who had such a wonderfully creative show at Y2K5) > opened up and was > really well > recieved with his mixture of psychedelic delay drenched > guitar, human > beatboxing and > amazing manipulation of 2 DL4 Line > 6s...................sometimes while > multitasking with > playing slide guitar........while > beatboxing................while using his > fingers on one DL4 > in his lap and his toes with a 2nd one on the floor. > > The the excellent group LoopStation performed with, again, > Line 6 DL4s and > what looked > from my vantage point to be a Boss gigadelay. > > The group is a cellist and a singer and they were really > wonderful and > amazingly full spectrum > in their passionate pop songs. They were very, very well > recieved by the > crowd and I was lucky enough > that their cellist gave me one of their CDs to listen to , > which I can't > wait to put on my hard drive right away. > > I asked them to come play Y2K6 and he seemed interested so cross your > fingers. This was one of the more > interesting live looping acts that I've seen and both the > cellist and the > vocalist used liberal usage of looping > in the set. > > Dolby's set was just sublime replete with wonderful visuals. > He had > several cameras on his person and there were > frequent images from one of them in black and white on the > large screen. > The cameras were fish eye lens and it > was really cool to see him manipulate his gear on the big > screen. He also > had beautiful looped images > accompanying his songs...........including some very powerful > emotional > imagery of submaries, torpedoes and the ocean > during his song, "One of our Submarines". > > I'm not entirely sure of his setup except to say that I know > it's well > documented as of yesterday on his website and that > he was basically looping inside of LOGIC on a Mac. > > He seemed to have a nice blend of actually playing parts on > keyboards; > singing; looping occasional keyboard parts (which I realize > could have been > real time midi looping or an internally run VST live looping > pluging) and > then some obviously sequenced > parts. > > The canned-ness of it didn't bother me in the slightest > because he really > was multi-tasking and playing a lot. > He was in fine voice and my only complaint was that I wish > his show had been > longer than the slightly less than an hour that it was. > > His equipment failed him twice during the show but he was > very entertaining > and called attention to the fact.............Every time it > screwed up he > promised the crowd that he would throw t-shirts to the > audience and he did. > > At one point he dedicated a song to his wife (the reason he > moved to L.A. > apparently) and she just coincidentally happened to be > standing right next > to us. I was graciously taken to the show by Glenn > Javaheri and his > girlfriend who also gave me some video that he shot at the > 1st Bass Looping > Festival at the San Jose Museum of Art, years ago with Steve > Lawson and > Michael Manring. > > It was a wonderful concert and I felt so proud to be in this > community and > see how high profile some of what we do is getting. > This is the first 'normal' show I"ve seen where everyone on > the bill was > live looping extensively. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 14:33:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D39683BECC; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060416103116.01c51728@mail.wightman.ca> X-Sender: phaslem@mail.wightman.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:33:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video In-Reply-To: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-24BB481F Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for that link! I've been a Phil Keaggy fan since the 70's but haven't seen him since .... maybe the mid 90's when he was in Ontario to perform.... wow he sure hasn't lost his touch.... wow Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca At 01:19 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote: >a nice looping performance of Salvation Army Band. > >http://www.olsonguitars.com/videovault.html > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 15:33:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F64D3BEC1; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <913728d60604141935s66acdf52y92dfb93476bd65ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0604132351v54be8c9cg2fe7a75cf2c55fa2@mail.gmail.com> <913728d60604141935s66acdf52y92dfb93476bd65ff@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Hamburg Subject: Re: Line 6 Toneport UX2 vs. RME vs. M-Audio Audiophile Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:33:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <078KFC.A.6bD.HPmQEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:33:28 +0000 (UTC) What do you use for monitoring when going into the computer and do you manage to get any sort of amp-guitar interaction? I know I find it very different when I run my PSA-1 through speakers rather than headphones and I don't think it's just that the frequency response I'm hearing is different. The speakers I've got, however, while intended for keyboard amplification aren't exactly hi-fi and are far from ideal if I want to start doing more using the computer, so I'm thinking it's time to get serious about monitors. Mark On Apr 14, 2006, at 7:35 PM, Charlie Milkey wrote: > yeah, i have the UX2 as well and it pretty much rocks :) > i really am interested in buying the FX junkie add-on...those sound > really cool! > but yeah, the latency is very good, and the modeling is very good :) > I would definatly recommend to anyone! > > Charlie > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 16:28:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6B073BECA; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RcbP66kMHDhffQhY/PvZb9ghtBeLV4YAmQ8r5fZzH0vDiGgUpm/OCR3P9F0cbTZ1bIhUznNZB7u3Eh1xB7SMTXP4tpGPLdAXst23S614k+B65EoaLMDORiarlQUK/oe/dC1P92cwubre0nStYeD63IYu/Y9xJs5hy2aQ33TMYGw= Message-ID: <588ce11d0604160928n8b3d16dg2cf288d73b18cf26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:28:31 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line 6 Toneport UX2 vs. RME vs. M-Audio Audiophile In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <588ce11d0604132351v54be8c9cg2fe7a75cf2c55fa2@mail.gmail.com> <913728d60604141935s66acdf52y92dfb93476bd65ff@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <10DPMC.A.1eF.xCnQEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:28:33 +0000 (UTC) I've got Fostex PS-3 powered monitors and Sennheiser HD-280 headphones. They sound alright to me, but I haven't been spoiled by the top flight studio equipment. I'm not sure about "amp-guitar interaction" other than feedback which I'm able to produce at reasonable volume levels. I find I still like my GreenMachine amp simulation software better for some of the more out-there high-gain sounds, so I'll turn the amp and cabinet models off, and just use the toneport as a preamp-interface. I'm not really looking for classic guitar sounds, so I like the full range monitor speakers better than an amp. Interestingly, I guess there is more to latency than buffer size. I don't usually use ableton live, but I fired it up yesterday, and it gives a latency in ms. Even with a buffer size of 128Mb on the toneport, it was showing 10ms latency. So I guess I'm not getting smaller latencies with the toneport than with my RME PCI soundcard, even though the buffer size on the RME is larger. This is over my head. Maybe someone can explain it to me? -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://artsimon.iuma.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 17:42:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CD4D3BEB5; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=d2BP0PfB+i85ZSZpM0UpB1MZEH9nmiolrIp6xv8ACtUdYJrjqYumtlO6t/mIt2NVYYrlAB594JdTZMSGVv8BY1iijgvlojUIePH1NtMd7LQlnxhzzNF5d2DVcZNypefkJFvxl8WiWmnMu//hxKSdokjda0H0KYMW0WZjYCbI7UI= ; Message-ID: <20060416174237.79364.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:42:37 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00b301c66139$d9d123b0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1ZM1SC.A.JJ.PIoQEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:42:40 +0000 (UTC) --- "loop.pool" wrote: > Wow, I just got from a very stimulating show, > watching Thomas Dolby It sure was a treat. I was literally right in front of him and it was an amazing show. > What was very exciting is that every act on the bill > used live looping > techniques extensively. Was Thomas looping audio? I couldn't tell. There were a couple of times it seemed like he was looping a line using MIDI. I saw no hardware looper, but he could have been running a software looper. > Genie (who had such a wonderfully creative show at > Y2K5) Yeah, who knew he was the only person in the world doing live looped guitar? I'm glad he told me. Kidding aside, his set was pretty cool but man I hate when an artist comes up and proclaimes they're the originator of something or the best at something. This turns me off to a lot of rap music. > > The the excellent group LoopStation performed with, > again, Line 6 DL4s and what looked > from my vantage point to be a Boss gigadelay. I was blown away by this act. The interaction between both of them and the energy was great. I must pick up their music QUICK. They were by far the best last night, IMO. > Dolby's set was just sublime replete with wonderful > visuals. He had > several cameras on his person and there were > frequent images from one of them in black and white > on the large screen. At times I thought the "Dolby cam" was a little sickening. To much motion! The times he had it slurred and slo mo were a lot easier to enjoy. The rest of the visuals were perfect though. > The canned-ness of it didn't bother me in the > slightest because he really > was multi-tasking and playing a lot. I honestly though it did suffer a little from being kind of canned. As a person who feels kind of canned on stage, I'm not sure I have an answer for this, but his act was missing something that LoopStation had in buckets. Perhaps if he had another musician up there? A lot of his songs have great guitar parts, I'd love to have seen another guitarist up there. HIs technical glitches didn't bother me, in fact if further won me over to see how charming and humble he was as he tossed teeshirts out and joked about the technology. Maybe it was just my mood... I've seen Laurie do one woman tech shows and didn't think it canned at all. It's a minor complaint though, I had a great time at the show... except that I had to ask the drunken idiots next to me to stop chatting loudly to themselves 5 times. Mark Sottilaro __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 17:46:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AD463BECF; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Bill Edmondson" To: Subject: RE: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:46:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20060416174237.79364.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZhfSlmn3skdwFgTrWD5bmmxXt6lgAAIrnA Message-Id: <20060416174652.8192C3BEB2@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:46:54 +0000 (UTC) His blog mentioned that he was using ableton live. -----Original Message----- From: mark sottilaro [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:43 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING --- "loop.pool" wrote: > Wow, I just got from a very stimulating show, > watching Thomas Dolby It sure was a treat. I was literally right in front of him and it was an amazing show. > What was very exciting is that every act on the bill > used live looping > techniques extensively. Was Thomas looping audio? I couldn't tell. There were a couple of times it seemed like he was looping a line using MIDI. I saw no hardware looper, but he could have been running a software looper. > Genie (who had such a wonderfully creative show at > Y2K5) Yeah, who knew he was the only person in the world doing live looped guitar? I'm glad he told me. Kidding aside, his set was pretty cool but man I hate when an artist comes up and proclaimes they're the originator of something or the best at something. This turns me off to a lot of rap music. > > The the excellent group LoopStation performed with, > again, Line 6 DL4s and what looked > from my vantage point to be a Boss gigadelay. I was blown away by this act. The interaction between both of them and the energy was great. I must pick up their music QUICK. They were by far the best last night, IMO. > Dolby's set was just sublime replete with wonderful > visuals. He had > several cameras on his person and there were > frequent images from one of them in black and white > on the large screen. At times I thought the "Dolby cam" was a little sickening. To much motion! The times he had it slurred and slo mo were a lot easier to enjoy. The rest of the visuals were perfect though. > The canned-ness of it didn't bother me in the > slightest because he really > was multi-tasking and playing a lot. I honestly though it did suffer a little from being kind of canned. As a person who feels kind of canned on stage, I'm not sure I have an answer for this, but his act was missing something that LoopStation had in buckets. Perhaps if he had another musician up there? A lot of his songs have great guitar parts, I'd love to have seen another guitarist up there. HIs technical glitches didn't bother me, in fact if further won me over to see how charming and humble he was as he tossed teeshirts out and joked about the technology. Maybe it was just my mood... I've seen Laurie do one woman tech shows and didn't think it canned at all. It's a minor complaint though, I had a great time at the show... except that I had to ask the drunken idiots next to me to stop chatting loudly to themselves 5 times. Mark Sottilaro __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 17:47:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02CD03BEDE; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416104211.01c04f60@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:47:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video In-Reply-To: <620B6EAF-9D9B-45FE-834E-BA64D7D98CA4@gmail.com> References: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <620B6EAF-9D9B-45FE-834E-BA64D7D98CA4@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:47:07 +0000 (UTC) >On 16 apr 2006, at 07.19, John Tidwell wrote: >>a nice looping performance of Salvation Army Band. >>http://www.olsonguitars.com/videovault.html I am in awe of Keaggy's combined guitar and looping chops. About his looping gear I found that at http://www.museweb.com/keaggy/tech.html "In the mid 1990s, Chet Atkins introduced Phil to the Lexicon JamMan.... In 2000 Phil began using a Rolls RFX MP1288 MIDIWizard MIDI foot controller to control his JamMan (you can see him using it in the split-screen shot near the beginning of his Philly Live! DVD). This is one of only a few MIDI pedals that allows one to send multiple MIDI messages with a single foot press. This allows Phil to do things with the JamMan that would require sub-millisecond footwork to accomplish with the JamMan's normal pedals. In addition, the JamMan has some capabilities that are only accessible via MIDI and not from the front panel or its included foot pedals. This includes the abilities to stop and restart a loop and to fade loops; Phil accesses these capabilities with the MIDIWizard. For details on how Phil's MIDIWizard is programmed, read these notes on MIDIWizard programming for the JamMan. If you program a MIDIWizard this way, you may also find this sheet of MIDIWizard labels handy. "Phil also uses a Line 6 DL4 Modeling Delay pedal for looping and other delay-based effects, especially for its capability of reversing audio on-the-fly." I wonder if he's still using the same rig? It appears so from the video. Cheers, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 17:48:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F09BB3BEC1; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IFFE3lWWeuIvELzTFeLVYfnAjPdvconCvG7gveDuWfinVmGyJjfk5Qnk8NJ7eu2K9LWFp77OiEXT8GlT6E1dgeDY9w2QEmCgojSREXXXPhb+8Atf5kpDN/0J/6BAgoIfZo6UcsyBv7hG+9jPxG6quukZp6lT5UZuxq1CaoQC8hg= ; Message-ID: <20060416174822.62842.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:48:22 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Line 6 Toneport UX2 vs. RME vs. M-Audio Audiophile To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3bnavD.A.uh.nNoQEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:48:23 +0000 (UTC) I love my Mackie 824s, but I've noticed a driect link to how much I feel I "clicked" in the studio and how loud I was running the monitors. :) I hate to say it but a little volume helps so much. Puny monitors will not work. I don't really crank it, but it's nice to be able to run them loud from time to time. Also, I abandoned Line6 modelers in favor of a Vox Tonelab because it really felt like nice stomp box pedels in front of a tube amp and while the Line6 sounded good it didn't have that feeeeeeeeel. of course this could be me being mesmerized by that glowing tube in it. --- Mark Hamburg wrote: > What do you use for monitoring when going into the > computer and do > you manage to get any sort of amp-guitar > interaction? I know I find > it very different when I run my PSA-1 through > speakers rather than > headphones and I don't think it's just that the > frequency response > I'm hearing is different. The speakers I've got, > however, while > intended for keyboard amplification aren't exactly > hi-fi and are far > from ideal if I want to start doing more using the > computer, so I'm > thinking it's time to get serious about monitors. > > Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 19:12:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CA0E3BECC; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416104211.01c04f60@TheNettles.com> References: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <620B6EAF-9D9B-45FE-834E-BA64D7D98CA4@gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060416104211.01c04f60@TheNettles.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--596103467 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Rolls RFX MP1288 MIDIWizard (was: Phil Keaggy video) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:13:40 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: <0udE2C.A.8-D.bcpQEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:12:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--596103467 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hmmm, Has anyone had any success trying to use this device to control an EDP? I am intrigued also by the availability of multiple continuous =20 controller jack -- up to eight of them, wow! Seems interesting enough to =20 investigate. tEd =AE kiLLiAn On Apr 16, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Kevin wrote: > In 2000 Phil began using a Rolls = =20 > RFX MP1288 MIDIWizard MIDI foot controller to control his JamMan (you =20= > can see him using it in the split-screen shot near the beginning of =20= > his Philly Live! DVD). This is one of only a few MIDI pedals that =20 > allows one to send multiple MIDI messages with a single foot press. =20= > This allows Phil to do things with the JamMan that would require =20 > sub-millisecond footwork to accomplish with the JamMan's normal =20 > pedals. In addition, the JamMan has some capabilities that are only =20= > accessible via MIDI and not from the front panel or its included foot =20= > pedals. This includes the abilities to stop and restart a loop and to =20= > fade loops; Phil accesses these capabilities with the MIDIWizard. For =20= > details on how Phil's MIDIWizard is programmed, read these =20 > notes on =20 > MIDIWizard programming for the JamMan. If you program a MIDIWizard =20 > this way, you may also find this =20 > sheet of =20 > MIDIWizard labels handy. "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???= --Apple-Mail-1--596103467 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hmmm, Has anyone had any success trying to use this device to control an EDP? I am intrigued also by the availability of multiple continuous controller=20 jack -- up to eight of them, wow! Seems interesting enough to investigate. tEd =AE kiLLiAn On Apr 16, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Kevin wrote: In 2000 Phil began using a <Rolls RFX MP1288 MIDIWizard MIDI foot controller to control his JamMan (you can see him using it in the split-screen shot near the beginning of his Philly Live! DVD). This is one of only a few MIDI pedals that allows one to send multiple MIDI messages with a single foot press. This allows Phil to do things with the JamMan that would require sub-millisecond footwork to accomplish with the JamMan's normal pedals. In addition, the JamMan has some capabilities that are only accessible via MIDI and not from the front panel or its included foot pedals. This includes the abilities to stop and restart a loop and to fade loops; Phil accesses these capabilities with the MIDIWizard. For details on how Phil's MIDIWizard is programmed, read these <notes on MIDIWizard programming for the JamMan. If you program a MIDIWizard this way, you may also find this <sheet of MIDIWizard labels handy. 807F,807F,807F"Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???= --Apple-Mail-1--596103467-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 20:23:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C9B03BEB3; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416131933.01b8cb88@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:24:14 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm having a little problem with the Ernie Ball volume pedal I have plugged into the Feedback jack at the back of the EDP. Whenever I adjust the feedback using the pedal, it seems to take a little while for the EDP to notice that I'm moving the pedal and adjust the feedback accordingly. I also notice that if I swoop the pedal a couple of times to get the feedback change noticed, there is also a accompanying swoop in the volume leve of the loop I'm recording. Has anyone else had this happen? If so, how did you deal with it? Thanks, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 20:44:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9768C3BECA; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: ninjam and other webstream jamming things... Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:44:13 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001101c66196$85b3ce60$0601a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20060416014434.41395.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZg91LcFQTkwGzfRLiASoiUYt/bfAAnY9+g Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:44:21 +0000 (UTC) If you leave out the extremely Cageian ways of playing together over the internet, I think of two possible ways: (I will describe the possibilities for two musicians, A and B, without = loss of generality, except that it gets more complicated for more than two. = The audience in these examples is marked with X). Way 1: daisy-chain streaming. A plays and streams to B. B listens to A, plays along, and streams the result (his own B part and the A part) to X. The major disadvantage here = is that A cannot react directly to B. The advantage is that any tempo or whatever changes do work without problems. Way 2: Ninjam A plays and streams to Ninjam. B plays and streams to Ninjam. Now here = we have different alternatives: a) does A listen to what B plays and vice versa? b) from which source does X get its stream? ad a): if the musicians listen to each other, you're bound to play = within the tempo and intervall settings the ninjam server is set up for. You = can, however, turn this setup into Way 1 if simply A or B does not listen to = the part the other one plays. ad b): this is the really interesting thing here. As you pointed out, although both participants play along in the same groove, both of them experience a different version of the music. There are two = possibilities: i) X gets a stream from A (i.e. the part A plays along the part he receives from B). In that case, X hears the same thing that A hears. And if the musicians turn the setup into Way 1 (see above), this does also work. = (not that this will of course also work if we exchange A for B and B for A in this example). ii) X gets a stream from the Ninjam server. Here, X takes = the role of a silent performer so to speak. That means that if A and B play = in the groove, X will also hear a version which is "in the groove", but = differs from the versions A or B experience. If A and B try to turn this setup = into Way 1 (see above), X will get a Cage result. Rainer > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: mark sottilaro [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com]=20 > Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. April 2006 03:45 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: about ninjam >=20 > Right, I get it... but even though you're listening... > you're listening to the past. If your jam mate changes=20 > there's bound to be some catch up time. I'm sure 2 good=20 > musicians will keep it together, but I imagine that measure=20 > delay would take some getting used to. >=20 > Mark >=20 > --- Krispen Hartung wrote: >=20 > > Yes, that's true, as Rainer indicated...BUT, you can turn that=20 > > metronome off. >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection=20 > around http://mail.yahoo.com=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 16 21:26:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E7BC3BECC; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:26:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416131933.01b8cb88@TheNettles.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <6Z3jED.A.j4B.0ZrQEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Funny you should mention that, I'm a couple of months in to the EDP, and one of the things I'm enjoying most Is the expression control of feedback, not that the Repeater can't do this, Its just that I haven't really delved in to the possibilities of what it can do is, until I started using an EDP. First off, the volume drop is not a glitch, but rather the result of what happens when you record at different feedback levels, loops are louder or quieter. Try this technique, record a short loop, go in to overdub, begin recording anew, and start rocking the expression pedal back and forth as you record, if you rock the pedal rhythmically say in quarter notes or eight notes for example you can create dramatic tremolo (amplitude modulation) effects. If you very slowing move the feedback expression pedal back and forth over the course of a much longer loop, the effect will be a subtle swelling and decaying of the loops volume, which can be an effective dynamic device, similar to an engineer manually riding the fader of a track. I like using the later technique in conjunction with my pinky on the volume control of a strat (and/or the auto volume setting on a DL4) to create a more orchestral string swell sound. As far as your EB volume pedal is concerned, if its a older one, you might try changing the potentiometer to something with a linear taper, the standard EB pedal is designed with guitars in mind and its audio taper has more of a swell at the end of the throw, ( the newer ones have a little dip switch on the housing of the components that will give you a smoother response.) I'd e-mail EB and ask them. have fun, Bill -----Original Message----- From: Kevin [mailto:kevin@TheNettles.com] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal Hi, I'm having a little problem with the Ernie Ball volume pedal I have plugged into the Feedback jack at the back of the EDP. Whenever I adjust the feedback using the pedal, it seems to take a little while for the EDP to notice that I'm moving the pedal and adjust the feedback accordingly. I also notice that if I swoop the pedal a couple of times to get the feedback change noticed, there is also a accompanying swoop in the volume leve of the loop I'm recording. Has anyone else had this happen? If so, how did you deal with it? Thanks, Kevin The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 00:13:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7ADA3BEC5; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dwFcTfgyfi5cK0/qrimCRDWZytuYE3NwmwJdkTXkj23+jNpy6GDYyiCP6hU1Cei2q0AHhR1KS4VuOLgnlcPoIm+M4WhMiBDcBDUKGlwq7nOtd3VpRX7hmv2b/fss8FdrtzNW7JM1t3l/sFoTxOh9ZhGpF4HAMMc4/V4pIZ1hBzk= Message-ID: <913728d60604161713u60963fd3qd8d657ecad5105cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:13:19 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: about ninjam In-Reply-To: <053f01c66107$faf826b0$47b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060416014434.41395.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <053f01c66107$faf826b0$47b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <30SNbB.A.y7H.h2tQEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:13:21 +0000 (UTC) same here :) I am not bothered by the delay, because i can't tell...generally most of the stuff i've played on there is more in the ambient vein, and they are usually in one key the whole time, so thats no problem to me Charlie On 4/15/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Understood. Though honestly given my experience with Ninjam so far > (including my hour session last night with random folks), I am completely > oblivous to any delay. What I hear, in my mind, is as good as instantaneo= us. > I treat it as such, and react likewise, at least. It's a lot of fun. I p= lan > on getting on Ninjam more now. > > Kris > > > > Right, I get it... but even though you're listening... > > you're listening to the past. If your jam mate > > changes there's bound to be some catch up time. I'm > > sure 2 good musicians will keep it together, but I > > imagine that measure delay would take some getting > > used to. > > > > Mark > > > > --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > >> Yes, that's true, as Rainer indicated...BUT, you can > >> turn that metronome > >> off. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 00:23:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02F423BECF; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000c01c661b5$32e3c2c0$de04d00c@insightbb.com> From: "Mark Smart" To: References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416131933.01b8cb88@TheNettles.com> Subject: Re: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:23:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Greetings from Illinois, land of tornadoes. I think you are using the wrong kind of pedal. I believe the EDP expects a liner "expression" type pedal, like the Roland EV-5. These pedals are not intended to process audio directly, but simply to provide a voltage to a synth or some other piece of equipment for control of some parameter. They typically have one 1/4" output cable with a stereo jack. The Ernie Ball pedals have two jacks, input and output, and are intended to process audio signals directly. If you connect one of these jacks to an input expecting an expression pedal, you are going to get weird results. Mark Smart http://www.marksmart.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" To: Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal > Hi, > > I'm having a little problem with the Ernie Ball volume pedal I have > plugged into the Feedback jack at the back of the EDP. Whenever I > adjust the feedback using the pedal, it seems to take a little while > for the EDP to notice that I'm moving the pedal and adjust the > feedback accordingly. I also notice that if I swoop the pedal a > couple of times to get the feedback change noticed, there is also a > accompanying swoop in the volume leve of the loop I'm recording. Has > anyone else had this happen? If so, how did you deal with it? > > Thanks, > Kevin > > The Nettles: Progressive and Exciting Celtic Music > www.TheNettles.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 00:27:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F83C3BEC5; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: RE: Phil Keaggy video Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:25:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416104211.01c04f60@TheNettles.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Pretty much. He tweaks it as new technology comes out but he's been trying to simplify instead of complicate his onstage setup. ~peace~ Michael www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin [mailto:kevin@TheNettles.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:48 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video > > > > I wonder if he's still using the same rig? It appears so from the video. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 01:03:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5B103BED3; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 01:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:04:42 -0700 Subject: EDP and LP-1 noise floor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Scott Drengsen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3120.128.193.37.212.1144962956.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Message-Id: <271DAD39-CDAE-11DA-A33A-00050263BC96@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 01:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone with experience with both noticed which of these tends to be noisier??? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 01:09:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC65B3BED9; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 01:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: monk Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:09:24 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 01:09:30 +0000 (UTC) i play a few shows with phil every year ( and i produced a record for him a few years ago..) he has been using the jamman for a while. i got gibson to send him an echoplex years ago, but he never got on with it and sent it back. i've seen him do absolutely ridiculous jaw-dropping things with nothing but a DL4. the olson video shows about 1/100th of what he can do on a bad night. ric hordinski monk@fuse.net www.richordinski.com www.myspace.com/richordinskimusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 03:14:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DA5F3BECC; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kf/3ViYxj4mc6Nf+COWhAfXRfk52vrnfJEk9mGXbk57/KEJckXU9MVpxmzrx9hhiqzke1N1ucU9dameJDJCNbUgutBygnA/FyW+G34AP4lyGnbck6Sv0O0zfs7uF5snfCKyGWs786xyAxew3KlF78sdoXKMDZJkEFqZgZeRUrQE= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:14:58 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rolls RFX MP1288 MIDIWizard (was: Phil Keaggy video) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <620B6EAF-9D9B-45FE-834E-BA64D7D98CA4@gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060416104211.01c04f60@TheNettles.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:14:59 +0000 (UTC) I am curouse if the Rolls Midibuddy will work to control the EDP (overdub, reverse etc). thanks. On 4/16/06, tEd (r) kiLLiAn wrote: > Hmmm, > > Has anyone had any success trying to use this device to control an EDP? > I am intrigued also by the availability of multiple continuous > controller > jack -- up to eight of them, wow! Seems interesting enough to > investigate. > > tEd (r) kiLLiAn > > On Apr 16, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Kevin wrote: > > > In 2000 Phil began using a Rolls > > RFX MP1288 MIDIWizard MIDI foot controller to control his JamMan (you > > can see him using it in the split-screen shot near the beginning of > > his Philly Live! DVD). This is one of only a few MIDI pedals that > > allows one to send multiple MIDI messages with a single foot press. > > This allows Phil to do things with the JamMan that would require > > sub-millisecond footwork to accomplish with the JamMan's normal > > pedals. In addition, the JamMan has some capabilities that are only > > accessible via MIDI and not from the front panel or its included foot > > pedals. This includes the abilities to stop and restart a loop and to > > fade loops; Phil accesses these capabilities with the MIDIWizard. For > > details on how Phil's MIDIWizard is programmed, read these > > notes on > > MIDIWizard programming for the JamMan. 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So??? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 04:15:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADE4D3BED2; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" , Subject: the PiNG presents Collapsible Frequency Flow and Nightingale Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:17:26 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000001c661d5$d5d3e580$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:15:42 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=20 A SPECiAL AMBiENT PiNG PRESENTATIiON ROBERT RICH . LiVE iN CONCERT at the CHURCH OF THE HOLY TRiNiTY=20 SATURDAY APRiL 29th 2006 . 8PM Church of the Holy Trinity . Trinity Square, Toronto ON Canada (south of Dundas . west of Yonge . behind The Eaton Centre) Doors open @ 7.30PM . Performance @ 8PM . $20 Tickets available at soundscapes, Rotate This and=20 at this week's AMBiENT PiNG TUESDAY Robert Rich will perform a solo concert of instrumental electronic=20 music, incorporating instruments such as flutes and lap steel guitar=20 along with analog modular synthesizer, keyboards and computers.=20 Rich will perform selections from among his many recordings,=20 including his latest CD "Electric Ladder," woven together with=20 improvisations and new material. Computer generated motion=20 graphics by Daniel Colvin will accompany Rich's music, along=20 with custom laser projections. The film by Daniel Colvin tells a non-linear, non-verbal story.=20 Its series of shifting images conveys aspects of the evolution=20 of complexity and consciousness within the narrative of=20 cosmological history. Rich's music takes a parallel path=20 through that narrative. Though not synchronized to the film,=20 the music speaks a non-verbal poetry. Music and image=20 combine to express a modern shamanic journey. Doors open @ 7.30PM . Performance @ 8PM . $20 Tickets will be available at this week's PiNG.=20 for more info: http://www.theambientping.com/robert_rich_live.html and now back to the weekly PiNG news . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=20 THE AMBiENT PiNG . http://www.theambientping.com Tuesdays @ HACiENDA . 794 Bathurst Street at Bloor . Toronto=20 (upstairs - directly across from the Bathurst subway station)=20 Doors open at 9pm . 1st set at 9:30 . PayWhatYouCan=20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=20 THiS Tuesday April 18th . Collapsible Frequency Flow (CFF)=20 and Nightingale (Jesse Baird & Dafydd Hughes) Collapsible Frequency Flow (CFF) is an experimental sound=20 project, exploring different textures of sound, warped LOW end=20 drones, feedback and distant guitar tones. CFF is Darren Young=20 and David Reeves. With the addition of Norm Meloche a few years=20 ago, CFF has ventured into a more improvisational mind frame.=20 CFF explores soundscapes and ray of emotions, melding nature,=20 space, wind, percussion, strings, contact mics and effects. http://www.myspace.com/collapsiblefrequencyflowin =20 On the flip side will be Nightingale. Using turntables, electronics=20 and anything else that's lying around, Nightingale creates eerie=20 landscapes, strange textures and off-kilter grooves ideal for=20 dining, dancing and making out. http://www.sideshowmedia.ca . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=20 Before Sets CD . Gaud=ED by Robert Rich For part III of our lead up to Robert's performance here in Toronto=20 on April 29th, we trip back to an old favourite from 1991, Gaud=ED.=20 A flowing organic piece balanced with subtle structure and geometry,=20 this album was inspired by the essence of early 20th century Spanish=20 architect Antoni Gaud=ED's work. http://www.robertrich.com Between Sets CD . Mandala for Chaos by Embracing the Glass Tonight we feature the first CD by Worcester, Massachusetts'=20 Embracing the Glass. The work of vocalist Jeff Sampson and=20 instrumentalist Sean Carroll is not about drinking but more=20 about transparency and fragility. Their ethereal ambient=20 atmospheres definitely make them one of the unique=20 voices within our genre. Read more about it here in rik's=20 *ping things* CD review below and hear it Tuesday @ the PiNG. http://www.burningshirt.com/etg/etg.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=20 COMiNG Tuesday April 25th . GEARS of SAND Mini-Tour=20 featuring Ben Fleury-Steiner with Mikronesia, William Fields=20 and Aidan Baker with PHOLDE Gears of Sand Recordings is a not-for-profit independent=20 electronic/electro-acoustic label that has been actively=20 releasing PiNG artists like Aidan Baker and PHOLDE.=20 GOS founder, Ben Fleury-Steiner makes his first visit=20 to the PiNG and brings along fellow US label mates=20 Mikronesia and William Fields to join up with local label=20 mates Aidan Baker and PHOLDE. Should be a crowded=20 night of varied soundscapes on the PiNG stage, don't miss it. Gears of Sand Recordings: http://www.gearsofsand.net Ben Fleury-Steiner: http://www.gearsofsand.net/bfsportal.html Mikronesia: http://www.mikronesia.com William Fields: http://www.williamfields.com Aidan Baker: http://www.aidanbaker.org PHOLDE: http://www.pholde.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=20 rik maclean's *ping things* CD Reviews Embracing the Glass . "Mandala for Chaos" Shimmering. That's the first thing that comes to mind when I think=20 of "Mandala for Chaos" by Embracing the Glass. Shimmering,=20 floating, sweeping tones passing by the senses while subtle vocals=20 glide through your perceptions. Rising, swelling, like the crest of=20 a wave tugging you deeper into its grasp. Transcendent, inspired,=20 a womb-like serenity. Starting with slowly building pads paired with subtle vocals, opening=20 track "Around" ebbs and flows like nighttime waves on a lonely=20 beach. Growing in strength with each pass the waves grow more=20 powerful, their pull becomes stronger and what was only a=20 distant image a few moments ago now surrounds you. Track two "Chasm of Faith" brings to mind a tranquil lake where=20 drops of water make ever- expanding ripples throughout. Somber=20 strings float past the senses while a vocal line made strong=20 through it's restraint brings to mind the mournful call of=20 sirens to unsuspecting sailors. One can't help but=20 become mesmerized by their charms. "Great Lakes Chain Gang" places the vocals more prominently in=20 the mix, a layering of looped lines building on top of each other to=20 create a tapestry of voices. At times this track reminds me of=20 Brendan Perry of Dead Can Dance, something about the=20 voice, the intonation, the phrasing. Cool stuff. Closing track "Mandala for Chaos" uses harmonic pads as a=20 backdrop for further vocal stylings, a beautiful blend of sounds=20 that flow and melt into each other creating a beautiful spiral=20 of sound. Simply breathtaking. Shimmering. That's the first thing that comes to mind when=20 I think of "Mandela for Chaos" by Embracing the Glass.=20 Something liquid, shining in the light, shifting and=20 flowing, almost alive. Shimmering. Lovely. Yes. rik - ping things "Mandala for Chaos" is available now at ping things! Visit=20 http://www.pingthings.com/EMBRACINGchaos.htm=20 to find out more Tune in to ping things radio this Sunday and Wednesday from 9PM=20 to 12AM EST at http://www.live365.com/stations/marastorment=20 to hear tracks from "Mandala for Chaos" along with a ton of=20 other tracks taken from the ping things catalogue! http://www.pingthings.com =3D ambient + electronic + chill things=20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=20 * Other Toronto area sonic/visual events of interest this week: * Wednesday, April 19th . Aaron Lumley/Eric Chenaux +=20 Colin Fisher/Nick Fraser 1st set is Eric Chenaux and Aaron Lumley improvising on semi-acoustic guitars =20 2nd set is Nick Fraser and Colin Fisher improvising on drums and a guitar=20 part of the Poor Pilgrim series 10:00pm . The Press Club . 850 Dundas St.W . PWYC =20 * Wednesday April 19th . Blake Hargreeves (dreamcatcher), Hard Love in Times New Roman, Mabus Women in Tragedy 10pm . the Now Lounge . $5 * Thursday April 20th . Improvisors' Pool The improvisors' pool is a weekly gathering for musicians who practice collective free improvisation. It welcomes players of all levels and backgrounds. 7:00-9:00 Ralph Thornton Centre . 765 Queen Street East * Thursdays April 20th . Double Wind Cello Trios=20 Double Wind Cello Trios members are John Oswald - sax,=20 Marvin Green - bass, Anne Bourne - cello, Tiina Kiik - accordion=20 and David Prentice - violin 8:30PM . Edward Day Gallery . 952 Queen Street West =20 * Thursday, April 20th . mondo.urban presents FACTORY GIRL an evening of art, fashion, dance & music in tribute to Andy=20 Warhol's muse EDIE SEDGEWICK featuring live music by=20 JILLIAN ANN, SUNSHINE STATE, SHALYN GRAY,=20 SADIE MAY CRASH, ROBOT LOVE & ANNA CYZON,=20 DJs BENJAMIN BOLES & HALI, and much more Gladstone Hotel, 1214 Queen St. W., Toronto $12 advance at Soundscapes - $20 at the door ($15 with food=20 donation to Ernestine's Women's Shelter's Food Bank) * Friday, April 21st . Images Festival & The Music Gallery present "LIVE IMAGES 6: SOME CATS FROM JAPAN" curated by=20 AKI ONDA & featuring TAEJI SAWAI, KANTA HORIO=20 & ATSUHIRO ITO The Vatikan, 1032 Queen St. W., Toronto . $10 =20 * Sunday, April 23 . The NOW Series presented by AIMT=20 and the NOW Lounge 2:00- workshop TBA =A0 4:00- Berthiaume / Martel w/ antoine berthiaume - guitar, pierre-yves martel- bass =A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0=20 5:00/6:00- Berthiaume / Martel w/ guests w/ antoine berthiaume - guitar, pierre-yves martel- bass,=20 john oswald- alto sax, scott thomson- trombone,=20 john wilson- guitar, jeff luciani- drums, lina allemano- trumpet,=20 michaelangelo- home-made instruments 4-7PM . The NOW Lounge - 189 Church St. . $6 =20 * Sunday, April 23 . John Oswald=92s timefields & maritides CD=20 Launch - edited by John Oswald, published by Musicworks=20 Featuring performances by: John Oswald, Anne Bourne,=20 Doug Tielli, Rebecca van der Post, Laurel MacDonald=20 and Phil Strong 2.30PM . Edward Day Gallery . 952 Queen Street West =20 * Monday April 24th . Spires that in the Sunset Rise, Sounds of North American Adult Bookstores,=20 Disguises, Castlemusic w/ Ryan Driver 9pm . Gladstone Art Bar $8 * May 1st - 31st . New Adventures In Sound Art Presents:=20 Deep Wireless Festival. a month-long celebration of radio and=20 transmission art, radio artists, sound artists and enthusiasts can=20 experience performances, sound installations, new commissions,=20 special radio broadcasts, a CD launch and conference. Conference Pass $150/130 (+$20 discount - early bird registration) Early bird registration deadline is April 14th, day rates available. May 1st - 31st . The Drake Hotel (1150 Queen St W) & Ryerson=20 University Student Campus Centre (55 Gould St) more info at http://www.deepwireless.ca . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=20 THE AMBiENT PiNG is a social sound/art event presenting live=20 performances by Toronto's finest ambient, chillout, improv and=20 experimental music artists plus performers from around the world,=20 every Tuesday evening at HACiENDA . 794 Bathurst Street at Bloor.=20 http://www.theambientping.com=20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=20 Please forward this e-mail to any friends who may be interested in=20 live ambient, chillout and experimental music performances or to=20 any of your appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 07:42:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00B463BED0; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20060417003152.052f8dd8@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:41:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416131933.01b8cb88@TheNettles.com> References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416131933.01b8cb88@TheNettles.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:42:08 +0000 (UTC) At 01:24 PM 4/16/2006, Kevin wrote: >I'm having a little problem with the Ernie Ball volume pedal I have >plugged into the Feedback jack at the back of the EDP. Whenever I adjust >the feedback using the pedal, it seems to take a little while for the EDP >to notice that I'm moving the pedal and adjust the feedback accordingly. Make sure you are using the correct type of pedal. It should be a volume pedal intended for line level signals, where the pot is around 20kOhm. If you are using a volume pedal intended for guitar the resistance will be too high, around 250kOhm. Most of the range of the pedal will not be recognized. So you may have to move through a lot of the pedal range before you reach the point where the EDP recognizes it. See the Echoplex pedal tutorial for a lot more details: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html Also, make sure you understand what feedback is and how it works. You won't hear the result of a feedback change until the next repetition of the loop. However, if you are using LoopIV some of the interface modes provide interesting variations on this. You may want to explore those after you get the idea of basic feedback control. >I also notice that if I swoop the pedal a couple of times to get >the feedback change noticed, there is also a accompanying swoop in the >volume leve of the loop I'm recording. Has anyone else had this >happen? If so, how did you deal with it? As Bill explained, Feedback is a dynamic control. It is always affecting the level fed back into the loop. Active motions you make on feedback will be heard in the next repetitions of the loop. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 07:43:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC3C73BEDE; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20060417004206.052da108@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:43:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal In-Reply-To: <000c01c661b5$32e3c2c0$de04d00c@insightbb.com> References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416131933.01b8cb88@TheNettles.com> <000c01c661b5$32e3c2c0$de04d00c@insightbb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:43:29 +0000 (UTC) At 05:23 PM 4/16/2006, Mark Smart wrote: >I think you are using the wrong kind of pedal. I believe the EDP expects a >liner >"expression" type pedal, like the Roland EV-5. These pedals are not >intended to >process audio directly, but simply to provide a voltage to a synth or some >other >piece of equipment for control of some parameter. They typically have one 1/4" >output cable with a stereo jack. That's not correct. The echoplex was designed to work with a passive volume pedal. http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 07:50:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A49063BED3; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20060417004410.0528c2b8@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:50:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416131933.01b8cb88@TheNettles.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:50:19 +0000 (UTC) At 02:26 PM 4/16/2006, William Walker wrote: >Funny you should mention that, I'm a couple of months in to the EDP, and one >of the things I'm enjoying most Is the expression control of feedback, not >that the Repeater can't do this, Its just that I haven't really delved in to >the possibilities of what it can do is, until I started using an EDP. Ah great! Dynamic feedback control is a great looping technique. I can't wait to hear what you do with this. Be sure to try out the different interface modes. They subtly change the way the feedback pedal works, and can be really interesting. (or not subtly sometimes!) >As far as your EB volume pedal is concerned, >if its a older one, you might try changing the potentiometer to something >with a linear taper, the standard EB pedal is designed with guitars in mind >and its audio taper has more of a swell at the end of the throw, ( the newer >ones have a little dip switch on the housing of the components that will >give you a smoother response.) I'd e-mail EB and ask them. I seem to recall someone posted an Ernie Ball model that worked well with the EDP. Check the archives. The Boss FV-50L works well. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 07:54:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 294323BEDB; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20060417005031.052d9fc0@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:54:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Rolls RFX MP1288 MIDIWizard (was: Phil Keaggy video) In-Reply-To: References: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <620B6EAF-9D9B-45FE-834E-BA64D7D98CA4@gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060416104211.01c04f60@TheNettles.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:54:33 +0000 (UTC) At 12:13 PM 4/16/2006, tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: >Has anyone had any success trying to use this device to control an EDP? >I am intrigued also by the availability of multiple continuous controller >jack -- up to eight of them, wow! Seems interesting enough to investigate. So far as I know, that pedal is quite limited and doesn't work well with the Echoplex. I suppose you could plug momentary switches into the cc jacks and set the EDP to use CC control. But that would be sort of silly. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 08:10:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B788B3BEDF; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20060417005527.052f8a00@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 01:10:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING In-Reply-To: <00b301c66139$d9d123b0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <00b301c66139$d9d123b0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:10:37 +0000 (UTC) At 02:40 AM 4/16/2006, loop.pool wrote: >The the excellent group LoopStation performed with, again, Line 6 DL4s and >what looked >from my vantage point to be a Boss gigadelay. They were using Boss RC-20's last time I saw them. (get it? Boss RC-20 Loopstation? They are a wonderful group, but I really wish they hadn't named themselves after their favorite footpedal.) >The group is a cellist and a singer and they were really wonderful and >amazingly full spectrum >in their passionate pop songs. They were very, very well recieved by >the crowd and I was lucky enough >that their cellist gave me one of their CDs to listen to , which I can't >wait to put on my hard drive right away. Loopstation plays around the bay area a lot. I've seen them at Van Kleef's in Oakland a few times. In fact, some completely non-looping related friends of mine turned me on to them. And then my girlfriend got all excited about their music and bought all their cd's. Loopstation doesn't just appeal to techy music nerds, so they must be legitimately good! Normal people like them. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 09:45:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF9BA3BECF; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on smtp2.ruc.dk X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: Message-ID: <44436397.6070706@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:44:55 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:44:59 +0000 (UTC) That has to be one of my favourite looping videos of all time.. brilliant integration and musicality all round. monk wrote: > i've seen him do absolutely ridiculous jaw-dropping things with nothing > but a DL4. the olson video shows about 1/100th of what he can do on a > bad night. really? damn... I gotta practice more... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 09:45:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A1F63BEE1; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5BA1E87D-797B-4FB5-BB9C-DFD5E0490235@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loop List From: Steve Lawson Subject: Re: EDP and LP-1 noise floor Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:45:05 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - paddington.sitehq4.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <20Zkr.A.baF.pO2QEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:45:13 +0000 (UTC) >>Has anyone with experience with both noticed which of these tends to be noisier???<< EDP, in my experience, is a lot noisier. With the LP1, you do have to get the gain structuring right, but if you do, the noise-floor is pretty low. cheers, Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 10:07:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CC0B3BED9; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000c01c66206$be0a26e0$de04d00c@insightbb.com> From: "Mark Smart" To: References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416131933.01b8cb88@TheNettles.com> <000c01c661b5$32e3c2c0$de04d00c@insightbb.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20060417004206.052da108@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:07:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Oops, dang! Sorry about that. Very unusual setup. Looks like the Ernie Ball Stereo 25K pedal would work. I have one of these and use it in the effects loop of my guitar amp. It's made for line-level signals going into an input with a lower impedance. Mark Smart http://www.marksmart.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Flint" To: Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:43 AM Subject: Re: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal > That's not correct. The echoplex was designed to work with a passive volume From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 10:54:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67F123BEDB; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006a01c6620c$9629f6e0$409efe91@inap> From: "Wavecomputer360" To: Cc: Subject: Blatant plug: New albums out Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:44:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C6621C.B139CF40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:54:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C6621C.B139CF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, just in case you have no idea how to spend some cash, you might want to = buy our new limited-edition album "doombient.two -- a declaration of = war". 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------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C6621C.B139CF40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 11:05:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C7A63BEEE; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e101c6620e$d2b50260$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:05:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Kim wrote that Loopstation was using RC-20s when he saw them. I could be wrong, but isn't the gig delay a black pedal? I"m almost positive that the lead singer was using a black pedal and not a red one, and the cellist had at least one DL-4..............I know it well. Half of his pedal board was blocked from my particular angle so he could have been using a loopstation and given their name, I'm sure he must have been using one. LOL, I'm thinking of calling my next project EDP-Repeater-Looperlative-Delay Modeller, by the way! What do you all think? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 11:18:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B4FA3BEF8; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rick Stevenson" To: Subject: RE: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 21:18:00 +1000 Message-ID: <002a01c66210$9a4ec490$0301010a@Rickus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <000c01c66206$be0a26e0$de04d00c@insightbb.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Mark Smart wrote: > Looks like the Ernie Ball Stereo 25K pedal would work. Yes, I have a Ernie Ball Vp Jr 6181 (25K ohm pedal) and it works very nicely as a feedback control for an EDP (actually a stereo pair of EDPs). Cheers, Rick. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 11:19:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 487FD3BEF5; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-T2-Posting-ID: Fz54lhn1c1H4mF5/QZJzVQ== X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <44437AD4.7060601@unguitar.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:24:04 +0200 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rolls RFX MP1288 MIDIWizard References: <20060416051909.13347.qmail@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <620B6EAF-9D9B-45FE-834E-BA64D7D98CA4@gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.0.20060416104211.01c04f60@TheNettles.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20060417005031.052d9fc0@loopers-delight.com> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060417005031.052d9fc0@loopers-delight.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:19:22 +0000 (UTC) the midiwizard can send up to 8 different midi messages on different midi channels at one time but they are just program changes. the very useful thing are the 8 cc's luca Kim Flint wrote: > At 12:13 PM 4/16/2006, tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: > >> Has anyone had any success trying to use this device to control an EDP? >> I am intrigued also by the availability of multiple continuous >> controller >> jack -- up to eight of them, wow! Seems interesting enough to >> investigate. > > > So far as I know, that pedal is quite limited and doesn't work well > with the Echoplex. > > I suppose you could plug momentary switches into the cc jacks and set > the EDP to use CC control. But that would be sort of silly. > > kim > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 16:11:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E560D3BECF; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:11:10 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060417004410.0528c2b8@loopers-delight.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:11:11 +0000 (UTC) You are correct sure, the 25k eb junior -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@loopers-delight.com] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 12:50 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal At 02:26 PM 4/16/2006, William Walker wrote: >Funny you should mention that, I'm a couple of months in to the EDP, and one >of the things I'm enjoying most Is the expression control of feedback, not >that the Repeater can't do this, Its just that I haven't really delved in to >the possibilities of what it can do is, until I started using an EDP. Ah great! Dynamic feedback control is a great looping technique. I can't wait to hear what you do with this. Be sure to try out the different interface modes. They subtly change the way the feedback pedal works, and can be really interesting. (or not subtly sometimes!) >As far as your EB volume pedal is concerned, >if its a older one, you might try changing the potentiometer to something >with a linear taper, the standard EB pedal is designed with guitars in mind >and its audio taper has more of a swell at the end of the throw, ( the newer >ones have a little dip switch on the housing of the components that will >give you a smoother response.) I'd e-mail EB and ask them. I seem to recall someone posted an Ernie Ball model that worked well with the EDP. Check the archives. The Boss FV-50L works well. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 16:59:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 108EC3BED2; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GzKLqJVdBaRBb5xwEsPiJf/V9WbHF8rWB6ObghTdBFhffuuPOl2zT+iERaZL1MEVMwxFnxGgEjHWa7n7+sFjLrw4Rf4pJJs7H6utQCV83mZCG38RNqKVbkSYjYuW6ZnMk4j3L08OINJdci744JGWWIjnWR5BIgCUmSMCpBUzoz8= ; Message-ID: <20060417165855.11405.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:58:55 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00e101c6620e$d2b50260$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <08-R4D.A.HhG.8l8QEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:59:41 +0000 (UTC) That's a great name Rick. It goes perfectly with your past behavior of naming your album after what you used on it: Dayglow Green Plastic. When I spoke to the Cellest during his breakdown he informed me that indeed he's using a Line6 DL-4 and a LoopStation. Why they're not on this list is beyond me. Mark --- "loop.pool" wrote: > Kim wrote that Loopstation was using RC-20s when he > saw them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 17:50:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BF083BED9; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2cSXtsmeHlWp0q23yzHqL/+GDBYnF6QJ5PQQGboEfl0YCOAQQNPgr0MtS53kubpzcmrOKGX+RDxKL7IErZfFDq2R/pWXa+/7E/4Vls/Rv2sRuDi5PS7ymAeV2SO4S7DYhAKncYkMklj3Py9W9lbHRIck5B/3EYlBpeWwnL8mvCk= ; Message-ID: <20060417175045.83234.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:50:45 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Looperlative: First impressions... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060417165855.11405.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:50:47 +0000 (UTC) I had great fun with my Looperlative last night. FINALLY. I love it's simplicity. It gives it a kind of depth. Like oil paint. Simple but manipulated correctly it's a powerful thing. The fidelity seems great, very transparent. I love it's MIDI learn deal. It's ability to execute 8 commands from a single midi message is great. With the EDP I had to step twice to get a quantized loop set up based on a number of beats, but with the looperlative I say, "Execute this command twice when you get it" and it does. I don't know why but I love that being able to start a loop and know that in x amount of bars it's just going to start overdubbing. LOVE IT. It's like a present coming in the mail on the birthday of the loop. Here it is! You played this a while ago! In an odd sense it's daunting after being a Repeater user for so long. With the Repeater you see what the designers intended quite clearly. There are a few tricks, but for the most part the interface/features inform how the user uses it. The Looperlative is more like the EDP in a sense that a greater responsability goes to the user to make the box what they want it to be. There are still a few things that I'd like to see in it, like a cued MIDI sync record (there's a cue to record on another track but the new track won't be synced to midi) but we're at v 1 of it's software. There's obviously more to come and I still haven't even explored track groupings and other madness. When I've been up and down this piece of kit, I'll write a formal review on LD, but so far it's fitting very nicely in my world. It's a great companion to the Repeater which now seems to be the device I use for deeper pitch/tempo manipulation. Stay tuned... Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 18:01:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40BE03BEE0; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1903.128.193.37.230.1145296902.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060417003152.052f8dd8@loopers-delight.com> References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060416131933.01b8cb88@TheNettles.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20060417003152.052f8dd8@loopers-delight.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: EDP Feedback and Volume Pedal From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:01:44 +0000 (UTC) > At 01:24 PM 4/16/2006, Kim wrote: > Make sure you are using the correct type of pedal. It should be a volume > pedal intended for line level signals, where the pot is around 20kOhm. If > you are using a volume pedal intended for guitar the resistance will be too > high, around 250kOhm. Most of the range of the pedal will not be > recognized. So you may have to move through a lot of the pedal range before > you reach the point where the EDP recognizes it. Bingo! That's what's happening. Thanks, Kim! Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 18:31:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF4FE3BED2; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3437.128.193.37.230.1145298697.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <00e101c6620e$d2b50260$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <00e101c6620e$d2b50260$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby: LIVE LOOPING From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Rick wrote: > LOL, I'm thinking of calling my next project > EDP-Repeater-Looperlative-Delay Modeller, by the way! > What do you all think? How about calling it the acronym, ERLDM? You could pronounce it "Earldom". Better if you start added vowels to it. Say: "Earldom" (Earl's domain) or "Erldom" (Elf's domain) or the more heavy-sounding "Erldoom". Stranger band names have been roaming the land. Cheers, Kevin (From the land of "Eleven Eyes" and "49 Fingers"--yep, it's logging country!) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 19:20:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C0C03BED0; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:18:37 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative: First impressions... X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J0c08.341aS.2fe1M" Message-Id: <20060417.121922.5639.741146@webmail04.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 1:1:1507519498 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5IjI8y/oV15b+vPn62JE+6UHTx0BGA5Pww== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.144|webmail04.nyc.untd.com|webmail04.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:20:27 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J0c08.341aS.2fe1M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain This sounds great Mark! I cannot wait to get mine. I should have one c= oming in the next batch,,,, tingling anticipation..... = weg ----__JWM__J0c08.341aS.2fe1M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

This sounds great Mark!  I cannot wait to get mine.  = I should have one coming in the next batch,,,, tingling anticipation....= .

 

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----__JWM__J0c08.341aS.2fe1M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 22:03:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98A663BEDB; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:03:59 -0700 Subject: EDP for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Scott Drengsen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C03BA46@keel.sailpoint.com> Message-Id: <12BA1F5F-CE5E-11DA-AA08-00050263BC96@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:03:10 +0000 (UTC) I have a blackface EDP loop IV for sale 600.00 buyer pays shipping Please contact me off list --Thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 23:29:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C7153BED9; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1217833 Message-ID: <444425E4.2090003@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:33:56 +0100 From: William White User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi - I'm a guitarist, and have been trying to recreate a looping/delay effect I saw David Gilmour (Pink Floyd) employ at his Meltdown performance in 2001. In essence, I'm trying to find a device that will loop a chord seamlessly - i.e. will eliminate the "click" sound one normally hears when one uses most digital delay pedals such as the Boss DD-3 to loop a chord. The purpose of this is to create a synthesizer-like effect using a guitar with one simple chordstroke. Gilmour uses a Roland SDE-3000 for this purpose, although it's not clear to me whether he actually loops the chord or uses some delay effect, and the it is hard to find reliable information on the Roland. My guess is that the sort of device I have in mind would have to fade in the beginning of the loop during the final seconds (or milliseconds) of the loop (and possibly fade the loop out at the same time). I have not yet managed to find a pedal which actually claims to be able to do this, and would be very grateful for any advice. Thanks in advance! Will. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 17 23:38:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CFD43BEDF; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1420.128.193.37.230.1145317097.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <444425E4.2090003@gmx.net> References: <444425E4.2090003@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:38:19 +0000 (UTC) > In essence, I'm trying to find a device that will loop a chord > seamlessly - i.e. will eliminate the "click" sound one normally hears > when one uses most digital delay pedals such as the Boss DD-3 to loop a > chord. If you have a looper that allows you to have an arbitrarily small loop and allows you to overdub this is pretty easy to do with a volume pedal going into the looper. For example with the Echoplex Digital Pro: With your volume pedal all the way off, tap Record button twice. Now you have a very small loop. Tap Overdub. Play the chord, still with the volume pedal all the way off. Now gradually fade up the volume pedal. With practice you'll get a nice even drone chord. Tap Overdub off when you've got the chord the way you want it. The fun part of this technique is that you can continue to fade in notes and get chord tones that would normally be impossible to play on guitar. I like adding harmonics, myself. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 00:27:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 889F93BEB9; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NCEIShgzKhulk0jXeHXfrtSUsc5desUfPcacgev/ClylpF0V8dMcfZiFyW96+BN5OiFitX0z83n6fZnObYP7GNmUuUnFHsQjF0quJUJx6KUaICaKVur1lTjlW/MVMYzIqimYUtzY4IsBUS2CJ6Il/n7Z/s0RWz2MEVgllV5/deQ= ; Message-ID: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:27:48 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1420.128.193.37.230.1145317097.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:27:50 +0000 (UTC) The EDP and the Looperlative are excellent for use in Kevin's email. The Repeater, not as much. I don't have an issue with it but there's a tiny split second bump in volume at the start of the loop. Not a click but it can be noticable. I guess it's the price for all the DSP crazyness that the Repeater does. I don't know about the Line6 DL-4, but in stompboxes the Boss Giga Delay will also make seamless loops and is damn cheap. Mark --- johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > > In essence, I'm trying to find a device that will > loop a chord > > seamlessly - i.e. will eliminate the "click" sound > one normally hears > > when one uses most digital delay pedals such as > the Boss DD-3 to loop a > > chord. > > If you have a looper that allows you to have an > arbitrarily small loop and > allows you to overdub this is pretty easy to do with > a volume pedal going into > the looper. > > For example with the Echoplex Digital Pro: > > With your volume pedal all the way off, tap Record > button twice. Now you have > a very small loop. > > Tap Overdub. Play the chord, still with the volume > pedal all the way off. Now > gradually fade up the volume pedal. With practice > you'll get a nice even drone > chord. Tap Overdub off when you've got the chord the > way you want it. > > The fun part of this technique is that you can > continue to fade in notes and > get chord tones that would normally be impossible to > play on guitar. I like > adding harmonics, myself. > > Cheers, > Kevin > www.TheNettles.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 00:32:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1EF43BEDD; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:40:09 -0400 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops To: Message-id: <001501c66280$a5edd140$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0mZcHC.A.sAD.IODREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:32:08 +0000 (UTC) This type of thing is possible with less expensive units. Turn on "record" - play a chord, *then* swell the volume up on your guitar... add other notes or chords (again swelling the volume) and then turn off record. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" To: Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops > The EDP and the Looperlative are excellent for use in > Kevin's email. The Repeater, not as much. I don't > have an issue with it but there's a tiny split second > bump in volume at the start of the loop. Not a click > but it can be noticable. I guess it's the price for > all the DSP crazyness that the Repeater does. > > I don't know about the Line6 DL-4, but in stompboxes > the Boss Giga Delay will also make seamless loops and > is damn cheap. > > Mark > > --- johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > > > > In essence, I'm trying to find a device that will > > loop a chord > > > seamlessly - i.e. will eliminate the "click" sound > > one normally hears > > > when one uses most digital delay pedals such as > > the Boss DD-3 to loop a > > > chord. > > > > If you have a looper that allows you to have an > > arbitrarily small loop and > > allows you to overdub this is pretty easy to do with > > a volume pedal going into > > the looper. > > > > For example with the Echoplex Digital Pro: > > > > With your volume pedal all the way off, tap Record > > button twice. Now you have > > a very small loop. > > > > Tap Overdub. Play the chord, still with the volume > > pedal all the way off. Now > > gradually fade up the volume pedal. With practice > > you'll get a nice even drone > > chord. Tap Overdub off when you've got the chord the > > way you want it. > > > > The fun part of this technique is that you can > > continue to fade in notes and > > get chord tones that would normally be impossible to > > play on guitar. I like > > adding harmonics, myself. > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > www.TheNettles.com > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 00:39:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F212E3BEEC; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: Subject: RE: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:39:44 -0400 Message-ID: <006f01c66280$96ba5e50$6700a8c0@mincer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZifu0a21LIK+z+SMuoy9klboN2qgAAX2WQ X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:39:49 +0000 (UTC) The DL-4 does a great job at this...just press record first, fade in a note, let it ring as you press record (or overdub)...sounds great. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com about the Line6 DL-4, but in stompboxes the Boss > Giga Delay will also make seamless loops and is damn cheap. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 00:44:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3006A3BEF6; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=CNJhrNA03QiLi/DOZO2p5HHGO3OCODIlB5rhpoYkS/ioZEFYEHysk3ZgX2NEnT+HPJgdsd9tnC+nhpJ3c9Tp6Ae3aHMoOgil9fKADzZFuEba02nrxo7amAO/mCf9a09WV6d8mLCD1C0sVV9iJ3DHW+w+3+7oC70oq+oorhOPnrE= Message-ID: <008001c66281$3588aa50$2533fea9@NOVO> From: "Mr.subliminal" To: References: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 01:44:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: <5WdhW.A.xoD.cZDREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:44:13 +0000 (UTC) The Repeater, not as much. I don't > have an issue with it but there's a tiny split second > bump in volume at the start of the loop. Not a click > but it can be noticable. I guess it's the price for > all the DSP crazyness that the Repeater does. This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. I used the Repeater extensively live for years in all kinds of situations: Live, studio, etc. There is is no bump whatsoever. Maybe some units where defective. Or it might be related with the inability to use them properly. Available for comments. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:27 AM Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops > The EDP and the Looperlative are excellent for use in > Kevin's email. The Repeater, not as much. I don't > have an issue with it but there's a tiny split second > bump in volume at the start of the loop. Not a click > but it can be noticable. I guess it's the price for > all the DSP crazyness that the Repeater does. > > I don't know about the Line6 DL-4, but in stompboxes > the Boss Giga Delay will also make seamless loops and > is damn cheap. > > Mark > > --- johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > >> > In essence, I'm trying to find a device that will >> loop a chord >> > seamlessly - i.e. will eliminate the "click" sound >> one normally hears >> > when one uses most digital delay pedals such as >> the Boss DD-3 to loop a >> > chord. >> >> If you have a looper that allows you to have an >> arbitrarily small loop and >> allows you to overdub this is pretty easy to do with >> a volume pedal going into >> the looper. >> >> For example with the Echoplex Digital Pro: >> >> With your volume pedal all the way off, tap Record >> button twice. Now you have >> a very small loop. >> >> Tap Overdub. Play the chord, still with the volume >> pedal all the way off. Now >> gradually fade up the volume pedal. With practice >> you'll get a nice even drone >> chord. Tap Overdub off when you've got the chord the >> way you want it. >> >> The fun part of this technique is that you can >> continue to fade in notes and >> get chord tones that would normally be impossible to >> play on guitar. I like >> adding harmonics, myself. >> >> Cheers, >> Kevin >> www.TheNettles.com >> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 03:02:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A11E63BEE1; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 03:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UE3cD8POPSbfWAjl5L1icVCRhT/1VEBDbvV4mksFTTjLAgbr+9wgAfS9F2M8AAZFj58SDPozFXItrl/ijIHB9a5X1fzjz9XFUkwN1lm0EcWwdcY5QgDlk8RUtxiAPujV+rqngUutDJDZvYrwT5DdxFV3nx9xKOE7vUTov9H0VHQ= ; Message-ID: <20060418030243.50534.qmail@web33714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:02:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: Casing for EDPP To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-831489049-1145329363=:50248" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 03:02:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-831489049-1145329363=:50248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi again all, I wanted to write to ask if anyone on the list has had any experience with trying to order a replacement casing for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus (the main portion of the casing--the bit that covers the electronics). My second unit (not the one I've got on sale right now over on Ebay) has a few more scratches on it than I'd like, and I wanted to try and see if I can replace the casing. Because I'll probably want to sell both eventually, as I'm been making some changes to my set up and need to raise money to cover them. Does anyone (Kim? Others with experience?) know how much Gibson charges for replacement parts for the EDPP? Thanks, David --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --0-831489049-1145329363=:50248 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi again all,

I wanted to write to ask if anyone on the list has had any experience with trying to order a replacement casing for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus (the main portion of the casing--the bit that covers the electronics).

My second unit (not the one I've got on sale right now over on Ebay) has a few more scratches on it than I'd like, and I wanted to try and see if I can replace the casing. Because I'll probably want to sell both eventually, as I'm been making some changes to my set up and need to raise money to cover them.

Does anyone (Kim? Others with experience?) know how much Gibson charges for replacement parts for the EDPP?

Thanks,

David

Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --0-831489049-1145329363=:50248-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 03:53:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7D3E3BED9; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 03:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,127,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="51051886:sNHT18854068" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <444425E4.2090003@gmx.net> References: <444425E4.2090003@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:55:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 03:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi there, I am gonna step out on a limb here, first because I have the concert DVD of the show that you are referencing and secondly because I've been backstage at a Pink Floyd show and and think I know a little about how Gilmour does things -- and at least have a tiny clue as to how it might've been done. Take this with a grain of salt though, it's only an educated guess. Though David Gilmour does do a tiny little bit of looping from time to time, if you are referring to the opening song on the Meltdown DVD where he is strumming his Taylor acoustic, then moves a pedal forward and back to get this "synth" sounding chordal swell that just simply develops and hangs there decaying very, very, VERY slowly over several seconds it's actually not a "looping" trick, per se. It's done with a AUX signal line that goes to a processor developing harmonized reverb with a just sort of near infinite decay setting. This way he plays a few licks on his guitar, lets a chord or note hang there a brief second, while he moves the treadle forward sending some signal to the processor in question (which is set for 100% wet). This creates this little chordal "cloud" of reverb that just hangs there for 30 to 40 seconds. He then moves the treadle back while it's still hanging there and continues playing a few licks of straight guitar over it while the "chord" hangs there. Harmonized reverb is one of my favorite ways of making pad-like faux synth sounds. It's possible that I could be wrong about what Gilmour is doing. But I'm pretty sure I'm not. If you watch what he's doing, and listen carefully to the sound that he's creating with just an acoustic I believe it's pretty evident. Ted Killian . On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:33 PM, William White wrote: > 'm a guitarist, and have been trying to recreate a looping/delay > effect I saw David Gilmour (Pink Floyd) employ at his Meltdown > performance in 2001. > > In essence, I'm trying to find a device that will loop a chord > seamlessly - i.e. will eliminate the "click" sound one normally hears > when one uses most digital delay pedals such as the Boss DD-3 to loop > a chord. The purpose of this is to create a synthesizer-like effect > using a guitar with one simple chordstroke. Gilmour uses a Roland > SDE-3000 for this purpose, although it's not clear to me whether he > actually loops the chord or uses some delay effect, and the it is hard > to find reliable information on the Roland. > > My guess is that the sort of device I have in mind would have to fade > in the beginning of the loop during the final seconds (or > milliseconds) of the loop (and possibly fade the loop out at the same > time). I have not yet managed to find a pedal which actually claims to > be able to do this, and would be very grateful for any advice. > > Thanks in advance! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 04:30:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 624A13BED3; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 04:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 21:31:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Scott Drengsen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <3F3A745C-CE94-11DA-AA08-00050263BC96@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 04:30:54 +0000 (UTC) He employed the same trick here in Oakland Sunday night w/an electric=20 guitar and selected single notes during the guitar solo/intro to Shine=20= on you crazy Diamond.... On Monday, April 17, 2006, at 08:55 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > Hi there, > > I am gonna step out on a limb here, first because I have the concert=20= > DVD > of the show that you are referencing and secondly because I've been > backstage at a Pink Floyd show and and think I know a little about how > Gilmour does things -- and at least have a tiny clue as to how it=20 > might've > been done. Take this with a grain of salt though, it's only an=20 > educated guess. > > Though David Gilmour does do a tiny little bit of looping from time to=20= > time, > if you are referring to the opening song on the Meltdown DVD where he > is strumming his Taylor acoustic, then moves a pedal forward and back=20= > to > get this "synth" sounding chordal swell that just simply develops and=20= > hangs > there decaying very, very, VERY slowly over several seconds it's=20 > actually > not a "looping" trick, per se. It's done with a AUX signal line that=20= > goes to > a processor developing harmonized reverb with a just sort of near=20 > infinite > decay setting. > > This way he plays a few licks on his guitar, lets a chord or note hang=20= > there a > brief second, while he moves the treadle forward sending some signal=20= > to the > processor in question (which is set for 100% wet). This creates this=20= > little > chordal "cloud" of reverb that just hangs there for 30 to 40 seconds.=20= > He > then moves the treadle back while it's still hanging there and=20 > continues > playing a few licks of straight guitar over it while the "chord" hangs=20= > there. > > Harmonized reverb is one of my favorite ways of making pad-like faux > synth sounds. It's possible that I could be wrong about what Gilmour=20= > is doing. > But I'm pretty sure I'm not. If you watch what he's doing, and listen=20= > carefully > to the sound that he's creating with just an acoustic I believe it's=20= > pretty > evident. > > Ted Killian > . > On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:33 PM, William White wrote: > >> 'm a guitarist, and have been trying to recreate a looping/delay=20 >> effect I saw David Gilmour (Pink Floyd) employ at his Meltdown=20 >> performance in 2001. >> >> In essence, I'm trying to find a device that will loop a chord=20 >> seamlessly - i.e. will eliminate the "click" sound one normally hears=20= >> when one uses most digital delay pedals such as the Boss DD-3 to loop=20= >> a chord. The purpose of this is to create a synthesizer-like effect=20= >> using a guitar with one simple chordstroke. Gilmour uses a Roland=20 >> SDE-3000 for this purpose, although it's not clear to me whether he=20= >> actually loops the chord or uses some delay effect, and the it is=20 >> hard to find reliable information on the Roland. >> >> My guess is that the sort of device I have in mind would have to fade=20= >> in the beginning of the loop during the final seconds (or=20 >> milliseconds) of the loop (and possibly fade the loop out at the same=20= >> time). I have not yet managed to find a pedal which actually claims=20= >> to be able to do this, and would be very grateful for any advice. >> >> Thanks in advance! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 07:36:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAFD83BECD; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation-Mail-From: loopersdelight@swyatt.com via u15184937 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(88.109.144.96):SA:0(-0.7/5.0):. Processed in 1.93311 secs Process 10277) Message-ID: <4444970A.1070208@swyatt.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:36:42 +0100 From: Stuart Wyatt User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops References: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008001c66281$3588aa50$2533fea9@NOVO> In-Reply-To: <008001c66281$3588aa50$2533fea9@NOVO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0616-0, 04/17/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Mr.subliminal wrote: > The Repeater, not as much. I don't >> have an issue with it but there's a tiny split second >> bump in volume at the start of the loop. Not a click >> but it can be noticable. I guess it's the price for >> all the DSP crazyness that the Repeater does. > > > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and > over. I used the Repeater extensively live for years in all kinds of > situations: Live, studio, etc. > > There is is no bump whatsoever. Maybe some units where defective. Or it > might be related with the inability to use them properly. I used to be a Repeater owner, and I had bumps whilst trying to do seamless loops (as well as many other problems). I thought it might have been a defective unit, but I have also tried 2 other people's Repeaters since, and the same happened with their units. Maybe you have a rare one that doesn't do this, but you can't go around yelling 'Bullshit', or insinuate that people that they are unable to use them properly! People will snap back.... My major gripe with the Repeater is that you couldn't straight into overdub after recording the first part of the loop... which is one of the NECESSITIES for creating a seemless loop! - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 07:50:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 408593BEDB; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fyftKTKeoxpORiMyn0W0vH0mfISknFTteXc+nQBWxOgwjc+qDX9Qgp/T54dPSVCYhDj2KXAjqYM0K2QsxjWZIGO5Qii+uR6tQm8pdkqLK8b5kMVPQwYrgo02cWk5M7Kn49FIRX0MfVVb8STUBOWy3BZohiN+DdbxCYvduKSO1/o= In-Reply-To: <1420.128.193.37.230.1145317097.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <444425E4.2090003@gmx.net> <1420.128.193.37.230.1145317097.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4DF7B15D-773A-4910-87A3-948DB127541A@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:50:29 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <07aqOB.A.87B.IpJREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:50:33 +0000 (UTC) >> In essence, I'm trying to find a device that will loop a chord >> seamlessly - i.e. will eliminate the "click" sound one normally hears >> when one uses most digital delay pedals such as the Boss DD-3 to >> loop a >> chord. On 18 apr 2006, at 01.38, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > If you have a looper that allows you to have an arbitrarily small > loop and > allows you to overdub this is pretty easy to do with a volume pedal > going into > the looper. A variation is to start with "Record" but close the loop with "Overdub". This will even out some of the initial attack of the note/ chord played. I find this technique especially rewarding when playing with reverb as part of my instrument sound. If you do not do it like this you will end up with a loop that starts with no reverb tail and every time the loops starts over you will hear the reverb tail disappear. But, as David Kirkdorffer said, with a guitar it's easy to play a "fade in" attack. Use the volume knob or a volume pedal. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 07:54:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C299E3BEE2; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060418005120.01b8f028@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:54:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops In-Reply-To: <4444970A.1070208@swyatt.com> References: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008001c66281$3588aa50$2533fea9@NOVO> <4444970A.1070208@swyatt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Mr.subliminal wrote: >This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. A subliminal message. ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 08:12:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C686F3BED9; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=EUp9NSuaPw8Kcf1etyZ2UKmnDustGk7cPPgkWoWSFGSvIkJ0YKQVsqbQtsRfhK/dD4+59ULBOUv40CKwFt8o/fmsaxXVANtBLkZqlj/rr7KGXpFuoM1TQCnLW6Z3+vILhS/xC5I7RqIXzP0YamtC/KsbMDfLTtjsmIZrFzQsirg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <4444970A.1070208@swyatt.com> References: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008001c66281$3588aa50$2533fea9@NOVO> <4444970A.1070208@swyatt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <11056C7C-46AF-4ED9-A35B-65087B0EECA5@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Repeater Bump (was: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:12:50 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:12:54 +0000 (UTC) > Mr.subliminal wrote: >> The Repeater, not as much. I don't >>> have an issue with it but there's a tiny split second >>> bump in volume at the start of the loop. Not a click >>> but it can be noticable. I guess it's the price for >>> all the DSP crazyness that the Repeater does. >> This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over >> and over. I used the Repeater extensively live for years in all >> kinds of situations: Live, studio, etc. >> There is is no bump whatsoever. Maybe some units where defective. >> Or it might be related with the inability to use them properly. On 18 apr 2006, at 09.36, Stuart Wyatt wrote: > I used to be a Repeater owner, and I had bumps whilst trying to do > seamless loops (as well as many other problems). I thought it might > have been a defective unit, but I have also tried 2 other people's > Repeaters since, and the same happened with their units. Maybe you > have a rare one that doesn't do this, but you can't go around > yelling 'Bullshit', or insinuate that people that they are unable > to use them properly! People will snap back.... > > My major gripe with the Repeater is that you couldn't straight into > overdub after recording the first part of the loop... which is one > of the NECESSITIES for creating a seemless loop! I also used a Repeater for some years, but I never had this problem with "a bump" at the loop point. Of course I adapted my playing to the Repeater, in the way Stuart explains. So if I wanted to create a seamless "pad-like" loop I first created the loop (eventually simply silence) and then overdubbed audio into the loop. But even when breaking this rule I never experienced "a loud bump" with my Repeater. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 08:26:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA2AF3BEE6; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:26:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: other programmable midi pedals? Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4444B0CD.7504.CB442@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <44437AD4.7060601@unguitar.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: <8-0HtC.A.FND.FLKREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:26:45 +0000 (UTC) I've got a behringer fcb1010 controlling my jamman, but it's a big beast. Aside from the Rolls midiwizard, are there any other more compact programmable pedals out there? Stage space is often at a premium when I'm playing ;) I bought the eeprom and tried to install it so the jamman could remember my prefered midi signals, but I darn near ruined the whole thing with my ham-fisted soldering technique and it wasn't a success. All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 09:29:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3C3E3BED0; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation-Mail-From: loopersdelight@swyatt.com via u15184937 X-Antivirus-TotalPlayStation: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(88.109.144.96):SA:0(-0.7/5.0):. Processed in 0.95189 secs Process 17852) Message-ID: <4444B176.50708@swyatt.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:29:26 +0100 From: Stuart Wyatt User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater Bump References: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008001c66281$3588aa50$2533fea9@NOVO> <4444970A.1070208@swyatt.com> <11056C7C-46AF-4ED9-A35B-65087B0EECA5@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <11056C7C-46AF-4ED9-A35B-65087B0EECA5@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0616-0, 04/17/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <3n085D.A.x3E._FLREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:29:35 +0000 (UTC) > Per Wrote: > I also used a Repeater for some years, but I never had this problem with > "a bump" at the loop point. Of course I adapted my playing to the > Repeater, in the way Stuart explains. So if I wanted to create a > seamless "pad-like" loop I first created the loop (eventually simply > silence) and then overdubbed audio into the loop. But even when breaking > this rule I never experienced "a loud bump" with my Repeater. Hhhhmmm... so it looks as though there are some well behaved Repeaters out there :) Maybe I was just unlucky. I did the same as you for trying to create pad loops - first recording an empty loop, then after it has played once, hitting overdub. I was well used to creating seamless loops on the DL4 (most of my music starts with a drone), but those damned clicks appeared every time on my Repeater. The clicks weren't always recorded into the actual loop, but they were always there for the first few cycles... Its the same sort of clicks that you get on a PC setup when the buffer size is too low. - Stuart Wyatt http://swyatt.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 10:53:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42A1C3BED0; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fC9cuDW/etupTnry056CuKO3APSfV2p9Re/0Xqx71tRHwFpbpe4MbVA4SPYB5vpHa6zn+qahsXVj9haF3lg8s/AjZs3BgAmiWFmx7UWcjidZJEs30r9JxuI8s5ISFLqFHQWCetohi70AgNKMJdPAj+B14kxQbAJJ03ne92KtEVI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <4444B176.50708@swyatt.com> References: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008001c66281$3588aa50$2533fea9@NOVO> <4444970A.1070208@swyatt.com> <11056C7C-46AF-4ED9-A35B-65087B0EECA5@gmail.com> <4444B176.50708@swyatt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7C46084B-7E84-4487-9183-66EE072C33BC@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Repeater Bump Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:53:12 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:53:16 +0000 (UTC) >> Per Wrote: >> I also used a Repeater for some years, but I never had this >> problem with "a bump" at the loop point. Of course I adapted my >> playing to the Repeater, in the way Stuart explains. So if I >> wanted to create a seamless "pad-like" loop I first created the >> loop (eventually simply silence) and then overdubbed audio into >> the loop. But even when breaking this rule I never experienced "a >> loud bump" with my Repeater. On 18 apr 2006, at 11.29, Stuart Wyatt wrote: > > Hhhhmmm... so it looks as though there are some well behaved > Repeaters out there :) Maybe I was just unlucky. I did the same as > you for trying to create pad loops - first recording an empty loop, > then after it has played once, hitting overdub. I was well used to > creating seamless loops on the DL4 (most of my music starts with a > drone), but those damned clicks appeared every time on my Repeater. > The clicks weren't always recorded into the actual loop, but they > were always there for the first few cycles... Its the same sort of > clicks that you get on a PC setup when the buffer size is too low. The first Repeater I received came from the Swedish distributor because I was going to test and review it for a Swedish guitar player magazine. This unit wasn't very good, actually. It produced many kind of audio artifacts when looping, although not the typical "bump". So I called the distributor who exchanged it for a second unit, and this one was perfect! After the testing period I bought it and used it for two years. It seems there were "good" and "less good" units shipped, but since I have only tested two Repeaters I can't really tell the frequency of malfunctioning. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 11:14:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C80F3BEDB; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Ei4BZRKKyxwUmWOr2MX8wC7Ib4cAhJ2gNaTmqS1MEArXPuOU7k5VV4XX4wLVSbSjlde3T9KgStBDj/xD+BcVxLKSlXh4Dp98Tx7zOU941W4bp91uHvQ/+v9B2KL+n+CKqLdmihbng2EwtehkPMHWSyl+1hIJK8MG7+U69gcXRbc= Message-ID: <5b4d09440604180414g45f10e4apf3c42782bea1e822@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:14:22 -0400 From: "David WINNER" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: NO MIDI PATCH NAMES IN DP 4.6.1...HELP SOMEONE!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:14:23 +0000 (UTC) CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY I ONLY GET PATCH NUMBERS INSTEAD OF THE OLD FAMILIAR WEIRD ROLAND MIDI PATCH NAMES IN DP4.6.1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 11:51:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE2B93BECF; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=E9s9HHUVbUMsxN59w6shORCpNKbam3hVxvT1FY/f8Hxo96qO6CyzvW8b9fTHSq5WLnjTt1H3oQ8Xm4Ny+9SlYi3Q0Kwknmpc38pkJrgJwwV7JnzbtAUddU8fihCIl/KrWzIYktpeqqA5/9wNEEnmM6YAGjtXybjgRt2V2f1Oo2Y= ; Message-ID: <20060418115132.71190.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 04:51:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20060416103116.01c51728@mail.wightman.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-555844559-1145361092=:67964" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:51:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-555844559-1145361092=:67964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, the link isnt quite working for me is there an update for it? cheers Luis paul wrote: Thanks for that link! I've been a Phil Keaggy fan since the 70's but haven't seen him since .... maybe the mid 90's when he was in Ontario to perform.... wow he sure hasn't lost his touch.... wow Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca At 01:19 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote: >a nice looping performance of Salvation Army Band. > >http://www.olsonguitars.com/videovault.html > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. --0-555844559-1145361092=:67964 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
hi,
the link isnt quite working for me is there an update for it?
cheers
Luis
 


paul <phaslem@wightman.ca> wrote:
Thanks for that link!
I've been a Phil Keaggy fan since the 70's but haven't seen him since ....
maybe the mid 90's when he was in Ontario to perform.... wow he sure hasn't
lost his touch.... wow

Paul Haslem
www.dulcify.ca





At 01:19 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote:

>a nice looping performance of Salvation Army Band.
>
>http://www.olsonguitars.com/videovault.html
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
>http://mail.yahoo.com


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Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. --0-555844559-1145361092=:67964-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 13:06:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A4383BECD; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-82.messagelabs.com!1145364780!46593683!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC90D9@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:52:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C662E7.0425EE80" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:06:49 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C662E7.0425EE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" a mere two weeks later..... & in the course of sorting out some junk/old gear, I found these two boxes again. both working, too: the RPD-10 panning delay & the RPS-10 pitch shifter, both part of boss' mid-late 80s 1/2 rack effects series. the RPD-10 has been modified- I don't remember exactly what I did, but I have slowed the master clock speed down so that the longest delay time is almost 5 seconds instead of 2. obviously, there are some artefacts, aliasing & so forth, but the boss' own filter takes care of the worst of it. the best part is that the footswitch socket on the back does indeed freeze the contents of the memory, & you can operate the footswitch to overdub stuff or erase it, depending where the feedback knob is. also, the unit has a number of fixed ranges for the delay, & you can switch amongst these to change the duration of the section being repeated without destroying the bit you can't hear. I don't (yet) know what the output is like in stereo while it's doing this. as I recall, the "panning" part worked like a tapped delay, but I don't know what it does with frozen/looping audio. anyway, I think the RPD-10 should be added to the list of looping tools. the maximum stock delay is 2 seconds. they can probably be had quite cheaply now. there's no tap-tempo or midi on these things, but for solo or glitchy work it would be fine. short loops, mind...... so I tried the same stuff with the RPS-10 (the pitch-shifter/delay) but I couldn't get the footswitch to do anything. it sounds fantastic anyway- I'd forgotten how good it was for whacky feedback noises..... but I can't make it into a looper. hmm...... the boss RDD-10, which I didn't buy, only goes up to 400mS delay, but has an LFO for delay-modulation, meaning it can serve as a chorus or a wobbly echo. presumably, way back when, I bought the RPD-10 on the basis of the longer delay times, & the RPS-10 because I wanted to pitch-shift something. duncan. -----Original Message----- From: Goddard, Duncan Sent: 03 April 2006 17:09 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16) >>and the wonderful Boss RPS-10....<< the half-rack pitch shifter? I can't remember if it was this or the similar RPD-10 (a panning delay) that, if you turned it around, had a mysterious "hold" footswitch socket in the back. which ever one it was, I have it somewhere, & have modified it to run a bit slower/grungier. I gigged it a couple of times before we got the second jam-man, & the frozen audio was glitch-tastic. must dig the bugger out again & see if it still wants to play. duncan/r.m.i. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated, nor does this message form any part of any contract unless so stated. MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct and appropriate use of MTV communication equipment. MTV Networks Europe *************************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C662E7.0425EE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16)

a mere two weeks later..... & in the course of sortin= g out some junk/old gear, I found these two boxes again. both working, too:= the RPD-10 panning delay & the RPS-10 pitch shifter, both part of boss= ' mid-late 80s 1/2 rack effects series.

the RPD-10 has been modified- I don't remember exactly wh= at I did, but I have slowed the master clock speed down so that the longest= delay time is almost 5 seconds instead of 2. obviously, there are some art= efacts, aliasing & so forth, but the boss' own filter takes care of the= worst of it.

the best part is that the footswitch socket on the back d= oes indeed freeze the contents of the memory, & you can operate the foo= tswitch to overdub stuff or erase it, depending where the feedback knob is.= also, the unit has a number of fixed ranges for the delay, & you can s= witch amongst these to change the duration of the section being repeated wi= thout destroying the bit you can't hear.

I don't (yet) know what the output is like in stereo whil= e it's doing this. as I recall, the "panning" part worked like a = tapped delay, but I don't know what it does with frozen/looping audio.

anyway, I think the RPD-10 should be added to the list of= looping tools. the maximum stock delay is 2 seconds.
they can probably be had quite cheaply now. there's no t= ap-tempo or midi on these things, but for solo or glitchy work it would be = fine.

short loops, mind......

so I tried the same stuff with the RPS-10 (the pitch-shif= ter/delay) but I couldn't get the footswitch to do anything. it sounds fant= astic anyway- I'd forgotten how good it was for whacky feedback noises.....= but I can't make it into a looper. hmm......

the boss RDD-10, which I didn't buy, only goes up to 400m= S delay, but has an LFO for delay-modulation, meaning it can serve as a cho= rus or a wobbly echo. presumably, way back when, I bought the RPD-10 on the= basis of the longer delay times, & the RPS-10 because I wanted to pitc= h-shift something.

duncan.



-----Original Message-----
From: Goddard, Duncan
Sent: 03 April 2006 17:09
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16)


>>and the wonderful Boss RPS-10....<<

the half-rack pitch shifter? I can't remember if it was t= his or the similar RPD-10 (a panning delay) that, if you turned it around, = had a mysterious "hold" footswitch socket in the back. which ever= one it was, I have it somewhere, & have modified it to run a bit slowe= r/grungier. I gigged it a couple of times before we got the second jam-man,= & the frozen audio was glitch-tastic.

must dig the bugger out again & see if it still wants= to play.

duncan/r.m.i.



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------_=_NextPart_001_01C662E7.0425EE80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 13:08:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 527AE3BEE7; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-83.messagelabs.com!1145365691!30939880!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC90DA@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Repeater Bump Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:08:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C662E9.23EE0020" Resent-Message-ID: <9ju2VD.A.L3D.-SOREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:08:14 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C662E9.23EE0020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I guess I got lucky twice- two repeaters, no bumps. d. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated, nor does this message form any part of any contract unless so stated. MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct and appropriate use of MTV communication equipment. MTV Networks Europe *************************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C662E9.23EE0020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" RE: Repeater Bump

I guess I got lucky twice- two repeaters, no bumps.

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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C662E9.23EE0020-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 13:32:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0861D3BECF; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=uOFyWMFZtN2attKGmhObl0MH901waCJTu+hOnzEzX8P9DuVyws9iM2IA9le58zEldSMQsuY5ON3sM2Tstz+U2npHmEZfeNK+de/tAjpM6Sh9xptz2v0Ccx7aWc1RQ0UYWRAM+YLJ2iHMXkrCvW8+RcMKUaWjL+6DzBPyYzd0teU= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060418115132.71190.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060418115132.71190.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:31:59 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:32:02 +0000 (UTC) On 18 apr 2006, at 13.51, L.A. Angulo wrote: > hi, > the link isnt quite working for me is there an update for it? > cheers > Luis It's a Windows Media Video file (xxx.wmv). This means, if you are using a Mac you need to download Micrsoft Media Player to watch it. It could also be that the server is too weak. Right now I got this error msg: > Bandwidth Limit Exceeded > The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the > site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later. > Apache/1.3.34 Server at www.olsonguitars.com Port 80 Keep trying, it's a great video! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 13:53:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30E7A3BEE4; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749) In-Reply-To: <20060418130650.57AA53BED0@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060418130650.57AA53BED0@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <95794443-66C8-4A9D-BEAE-BE7B2F1C98AD@surfbest.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Richard Roberts Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:54:15 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Hello - I saw Robert Fripp do something similar with harmonized delay here in Memphis a few weeks ago with an Eventide (He had four Eventide devices, two were H4000s, but I couldn't get a glimpse of the other two). I have to de-lurk and go out on a limb here as well. Being one of the few wind players here, I can tell you the only device I've played that delivers truly seamless loops is the old Lexicon JamMan. With flutes, playing long, sustained notes and building up chords and pads, every other device I've tried does indeed have a small bump at the beginning of the loop. I haven't tried the Looperlative yet, however. I can see how a rhythmic instrument player, like a guitarist or bassist might find this simply inane nit-picking, but at least for the wind player, believe me, this little bump can be a major aggravation. It's the main reason I'm still using Lexicon JamMans and not something newer. Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 14:48:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F9203BEE4; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:35:37 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Looperlative: First impressions... To: mark sottilaro , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <007001c662f7$7a261c80$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20060417175045.83234.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:48:55 +0000 (UTC) One of the best descriptions I've read in ages... >It's like a present > coming in the mail on the birthday of the loop. Here > it is! You played this a while ago! Mark, you've got me lusting for a Looperlative! dB From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 14:58:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6BC93BEE6; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4444B176.50708@swyatt.com> References: <20060418002748.60855.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008001c66281$3588aa50$2533fea9@NOVO> <4444970A.1070208@swyatt.com> <11056C7C-46AF-4ED9-A35B-65087B0EECA5@gmail.com> <4444B176.50708@swyatt.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:49:13 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Repeater Bump Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Nary a glitch on any of the 4 repeaters I have used.... -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 14:58:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62E083BEEE; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:58:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Sellon upgraded Jam-Man for sale Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1066750201==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: <5O21-B.A.qqH.A6PREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:58:08 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1066750201==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I have a fully upgraded Jam-Man for sale. It has the non-volitile p-ram installed, plus full memory expansion. It also features the latest software update from Bob Sellon (4 tracks of looping!) The sound quality is notably better than my Electrix repeater or EH-16 second delay reissue, plus the Jam-Man has ZERO latency... (no 'bump' either!!) :) http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/199903/msg00018.html http://www.stecrecords.com/gear/jamman/_04Manual/Changes.htm -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-1066750201==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Sellon upgraded Jam-Man for sale
I have a fully upgraded Jam-Man for sale.
It has the non-volitile p-ram installed, plus full memory expansion.
It also features the latest software update from Bob Sellon (4 tracks of looping!)
The sound quality is notably better than my Electrix repeater or EH-16 second delay reissue, plus the Jam-Man has ZERO latency... (no 'bump' either!!)  :)

http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/199903/msg00018.html

http://www.stecrecords.com/gear/jamman/_04Manual/Changes.htm


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http://www.zmix.net
--============_-1066750201==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 15:10:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6394B3BEF5; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=dLKbxYcpd+OGAousfOk/HVL/SYZE70e8NScQi/YCqvWWp/cqgDwcwpOnAotEAf1r/8htomtZAC+apZjBPwCGqGoyVsWWPc34+8wdUTh3/Xsb8wmyboAWLE46PgTkcFKa43GPLqED584VBS2c+vVMdHPwSoygjAfWRJP8bwq5HCg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <95794443-66C8-4A9D-BEAE-BE7B2F1C98AD@surfbest.net> References: <20060418130650.57AA53BED0@arsenic.violacea.com> <95794443-66C8-4A9D-BEAE-BE7B2F1C98AD@surfbest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:10:38 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:10:44 +0000 (UTC) On 18 apr 2006, at 15.54, Richard Roberts wrote: > I have to de-lurk and go out on a limb here as well. Being one of > the few wind players here, I can tell you the only device I've > played that delivers truly seamless loops is the old Lexicon > JamMan. With flutes, playing long, sustained notes and building up > chords and pads, every other device I've tried does indeed have a > small bump at the beginning of the loop. I haven't tried the > Looperlative yet, however. > > I can see how a rhythmic instrument player, like a guitarist or > bassist might find this simply inane nit-picking, but at least for > the wind player, believe me, this little bump can be a major > aggravation. It's the main reason I'm still using Lexicon JamMans > and not something newer. I did this flute intro with an EDP: http://www.looproom.com/aol/09_Paradox.mp3 No bumps ;-) Used: Overdub, HalfSpeed and Substitute Insert (quantized to "8ths per cycle = 16..."). I'v also found Mobius on a PC capable of producing seamless loops. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 16:38:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 245733BEE1; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:35:29 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Scary Situations In-reply-to: <7.0.0.16.0.20060412212147.01a95890@TheNettles.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <44451551.80303@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <029d01c65dda$27cb81e0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060412212147.01a95890@TheNettles.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: <2AkS_.A.qxD.ZYRREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Kevin wrote: > Ah, what about the folks who ask to come up when you take your break > to play _while_ you're taking your break? That's a subtler thing > that I've been running into lately. I'm at the point where I don't > like having someone on stage unless I know them or someone I respect > vouches for them. Amen! I tell them to take a hike. "When you've spent thousands of dollars on a PA, spent a decade learning how to use it properly, and broke your back loading it in the car, unloading it, and setting it up, then you can do what you want with it." When I go on break, the mics go dead and only the CD player is head... playing what *I* decide should be playing. Who here hasn't spent a pile of money on gear and loads of time learning their craft? How about the trials you've gone through learning the business in order to get the job? These represent sizable investments. Why should we risk our investments on just any Joe Blow who thinks he's the next American Idol? In my experience, strangers who ask such questions invariably think that what we do is easy, think they're god's gift to humanity/women/music/whatever, have zero sensitivity and even less talent. People who do what we do, make friends with you first before asking to sit in or use your gear or take the stage and they do it with sensitivity, knowing when not to ask at all. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 17:26:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 402693BEDF; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:22:53 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Rare Guitar In-reply-to: <20060414180208.50165.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4445206D.50906@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <20060414180208.50165.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: <7h_DKD.A.3pF.0ESREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:26:13 +0000 (UTC) mark sottilaro wrote: >The worst I get is, "HEY! You're missing part of your >guitar!" (I play a Steinberber) > That's the rare guitar made of a berber rug! ;-) Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 17:50:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 827243BEDE; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AaLRhkzA5W4T03mzcobgx4th8o0X0ZOZfoU5WIRBrq+OcnLIf0HXY7saRLOpxBoqnYaQDZGBd+5t5BlY6IJOJducdicJpID7WuREVDI9owLd/XfL70FdHmSXIQKQtJTRyMY+0DswPaUFuxPS5zy0CFrWDl6QAPxDFX2HNXGLYdE= ; Message-ID: <20060418175004.26365.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Repeater Bump To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:50:06 +0000 (UTC) It's really hard to hear, but there's a tiny volume thing going on during the start of the loop. Do you sync to MIDI? That may be when it happens. (I mostly do) I never noticed it until I was told it was there and then I had to really listen to a very soft sine wave drone to pick it out. In the normal course of making music I never hear it. Not nearly as bad as when a JamMan was synced to a jittery midi clock and you got a fairly pronounced "click." --- Charles Zwicky wrote: > Nary a glitch on any of the 4 repeaters I have > used.... > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 17:56:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B4753BEF9; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060418175004.26365.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060418175004.26365.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:56:21 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Repeater Bump Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Oh.. MIDI... WTF? Have you used any device that can synch to MIDI without a glitch at the loop boundry? This would require some crosfading that may result in some undesireable artifact of it's own. The repeater does crosfade, hence your bubble. >It's really hard to hear, but there's a tiny volume >thing going on during the start of the loop. Do you >sync to MIDI? That may be when it happens. (I mostly >do) I never noticed it until I was told it was there >and then I had to really listen to a very soft sine >wave drone to pick it out. In the normal course of >making music I never hear it. Not nearly as bad as >when a JamMan was synced to a jittery midi clock and >you got a fairly pronounced "click." > >--- Charles Zwicky wrote: > >> Nary a glitch on any of the 4 repeaters I have >> used.... >> -- >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 18:01:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C37543BEE7; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jwesj6NlvgAF0+BXn8zdyTd0Ww4EVIjC0ECPyVGJA5WHQxBNLkWO43YOUIlbd+lrDXioys7/omxRUffkEp6eXQbjXwWCl+lMP9TYW1kXx1vYN/RQqeZYAJC9AfY0SwXeMw3ZSgUuB2AKuwvcXacMeuvSzs5HSOgtlZlSVhcc974= ; Message-ID: <20060418180058.98913.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:00:58 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Looperlative: First impressions... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <007001c662f7$7a261c80$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3h484B.A.9QH.clSREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Thanks! Can you tell I used to write pop songs? ALL MY LOOPING, I WILL GIVE TO YOU-OO OO! I highly suggest getting one. More fun than a barrelful of monkeys. Acutally, the last barrelful of monkeys I ran into was a great disappointment. Perhaps I had the lid on too tight. The ability to do 8 stereo loops of different lenghts is worth the price of admission. It's MIDI learn function is brilliant. The few bugs that were in v1 of the software were handled with amazing speed and consideration. Does Bob sleep? IS HE A MACHINE? He seems hell bent on revising and adding to the functionality too. I wonder what amazing thing this box will one day become... --- Douglas Baldwin wrote: > One of the best descriptions I've read in ages... > >It's like a present > > coming in the mail on the birthday of the loop. > Here > > it is! You played this a while ago! > Mark, you've got me lusting for a Looperlative! > dB > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 18:05:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E55373BF0B; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WFTwXxJae9+9Ct+Nadkta1eqmgd6PP4qcUmwLEGW18x/4QN9scv6n9AklRXYZPExjXcVIkbzpLPT9ibGRzdFZpRKsJYL0fQ8vYAUhKYMkcUGAwYJ/NoUGFWXZhNMbq5L+VnxHH3YW1K9XoRCq1xrY2mtarGbrZ57NgoojhqqVLc= ; Message-ID: <20060418180512.3419.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:05:12 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Repeater Bump To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:05:13 +0000 (UTC) --- Charles Zwicky wrote: > Oh.. MIDI... WTF? > Yeah, that says it all... however, it's all we have now until they invent something else. Oh right. They have. We just will never use it. I find it hilarious that with all the USB jacks a lot of my gear has, we still muck around with the MIDI standard. I blame Kim Flint. (ducks) Just kidding! Don't get that man started! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 18:34:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8190C3BEEC; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Repeater Bump MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:34:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C03BC1E@keel.sailpoint.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Repeater Bump Thread-Index: AcZjEWlbDGLGx1PfTFWxUQ6FRdCsiAAAbosQ From: "jeff larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:34:07 +0000 (UTC) > From: Charles Zwicky=20 > > Have you used any device that can synch to MIDI without a=20 > glitch at the loop boundry? This would require some=20 > crosfading that may result in some undesireable artifact of=20 > it's own. Yes, the EDP can do this as well as some software loopers. Loopers that sync to midi usually retrigger at the MIDI start point to compensate for drift away from the MIDI clock. But if this retrigger happens while recording is enabled it causes a discontinuity in the recording which you can think of as either a "gap" if the retrigger jumped forward, or a "splice" if the retrigger jumped backward. Some loopers do nothing about this which can result in sharp unfaded edges in the waveform that sound like clicks. I suspect this is how the JamMan behaves. Others are smart enough to apply fading to the edges so you won't hear a click but you may hear a softer bump or what sounds like a skip. Smarter loopers like the EDP simply disable this retrigger while recording is enabled so you are never in danger of clicks, gaps, or skips. The consequence however is that if you leave overdub on all the time the loop will never be retriggered and it will drift out of sync. You have to remember to drop out of overdub occasionally to let the loop resync. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 18:36:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 711813BF02; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Mvw1Z8fYOAX+o4HHr8p/fFb4ViPpFklO5Tk+m6XuoLa7TWd7Hs5GyflZnOEyTp4xcwZ4ITe3UJQAepPqtswKagIzZhMzzaMlI8EStam0v1492jFJUdPwA24oCwcS3UGo7RSeQIGtXD2AICBuREYWUn39wnQjyFX4S0ALRN3gbc0= ; Message-ID: <20060418183602.54989.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: NO MIDI PATCH NAMES IN DP 4.6.1...HELP SOMEONE!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5b4d09440604180414g45f10e4apf3c42782bea1e822@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Because you obviously don't know the correct places to look for information. In case you haven't noticed this is a list about making music with loopers. Perhaps a DP list may serve you better. --- David WINNER wrote: > CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY I ONLY GET PATCH NUMBERS > INSTEAD OF THE OLD > FAMILIAR WEIRD ROLAND MIDI PATCH NAMES IN DP4.6.1 > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 18:47:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 501493BED9; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HxjPq3PrN3XTzipj8rC2t7YCem8Fuo+hERunBh272DzEd7416DQstFkyX/nVOUSjkfTZJ3fnuUMIAAr+7H8ojLqDWtbsLIbegQ0M5vRaP8wnDbJOTF+0EOddAZHlEI4Ely5Im/5iC2U2eTP0aRAH90qzEswUoR+5A37ybL/Np/Y= ; Message-ID: <20060418184737.46711.qmail@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Repeater Bump (was: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <11056C7C-46AF-4ED9-A35B-65087B0EECA5@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:47:40 +0000 (UTC) > On 18 apr 2006, at 09.36, Stuart Wyatt wrote: > > My major gripe with the Repeater is that you > couldn't straight into > > overdub after recording the first part of the > loop... which is one > > of the NECESSITIES for creating a seemless loop! I've always been a proponant of recording a blank loop based on the length of my looped phrase. It's then easy to just open the loop and have a seamless loop. Not nearly as good as an EDP or Looperlative's straight to overdub, but it served me well for the last few years. OK, let's agree that Electrix rushed an imprefect product out the door and then went defunct. A few people out there got bad units. Judging by the amount they must have sold compared to the amount that are complained about, they probably had a decent success rate. Of course the people who got burned tend to be the loudest, which then incites satisfied users into defending the honor of their beloved looper. OK? Some Repeaters suck. My EDP was broken out of the box. I exchanged it for a second perfect Repeater. Oh well. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 18:52:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BC6B3BF11; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:52:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060417175045.83234.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060417175045.83234.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:52:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: audio of a looping workshop Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1066736156==_ma============" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:52:25 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1066736156==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The probably won't be news to most of you, but just in case... I did a looping workshop at the Suwannee SpringFest last month, and in response to some requests I've posted it on my web site. I've spent a lot of time in the last week redesigning and organizing my site, http://www.dgans.com - poke around a bit! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com --============_-1066736156==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" audio of a looping workshop

The probably won't be news to most of you, but just in case...

I did a looping workshop at the Suwannee SpringFest last month, and in response to some requests I've posted it on my web site.

I've spent a lot of time in the last week redesigning and organizing my site, http://www.dgans.com - poke around a bit!




--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://playback.trufun.com
--============_-1066736156==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 18:54:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7B133BF1E; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WiIYhdbXCI2YYECAq2w5tCIxz9V2CrR6eBDeFdVus5a2QRk3bXtO6vJz/zjzXo+9KRXIURrArUv1183GK7XYOZnrIn+ZoKiNOFoAghMx3F+hDFo35HXUOBjtluqWwcjxhAvRQaPX4Dh5WNfeVhDkqpdSo6mOiSAi+bi7HAaosJI= ; Message-ID: <20060418185447.3444.qmail@web34215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:54:47 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Subject: Re: Repeater Bump To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060418130650.71B323BEDD@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:54:49 +0000 (UTC) I have had 5 Repeaters cross my workbench and/or studio in recent times and they all exhibit this "loop point bump". Just to make sure, I fired up my two Repeaters (OS 1.1) this morning and recorded silent loops, faded in and out organ tones, and got that famous bump. Then I recorded a silent loop, trimmed the front and back, recorded on two different tracks, and still got the bump. Until the Gentleman-with-a-slight-deficiency-in-the-manners-department chimed in, I have not yet heard of anyone NOT experiencing this bump. Feeling kinda curious about this thread, I called my friend Peter Toms and asked him about it. He is the main service guy for all things Electrix. I asked him if he ever saw a unit that didn't have the loop point bump and he said "no". And this is after having 75 or so units cross his desk. Then I asked him if this was a hardware or software issue to which is said, "definately software". And that it has supposedly been fixed in the OS 2.0 update. (Still no word on whether or not that will ever see the light of day). Then we got onto talking about the first 20 Repeaters that were shipped in the early days as "Rev B" units, not the more common "Rev C". They won't even support an OS 1.1 update. He has to go in and change out some of the EProm chips by downloading the software and burning some new ones. These first 20 units are rather unstable and really need to be upgraded. They have an OS BETA 1.0 version installed. Interestingly enough, he has 5 of those 20 in his shop right now. It's easy to tell if you have one of these early units by the startup message. If it flashes "Repeater 1.0" or "Repeater 1.1", you're fine. That being said, I find the Repeater to be an extremely useful tool. I have put that loop point bump to good use on several ocassions. A good example can be found by listening to the piece entitled "The Return" found at: http://www.sohl.com/improvisations/Splash%20of%20Light/index.htm Or http://tinyurl.com/gjqcp if that's easier to click on. Peace, Stephen > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. > This is not true...I am tired of listening for this bullshit over and over. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 19:31:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 935D23BF0D; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:30:13 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J7439.1b47S.0be7M" Message-Id: <20060418.123032.19235.748112@webmail29.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:1:3530473459 X-MAIL-INFO:36c080ad60c0bd29e574bdc015f0f941658515b99d6441e46585650cb910c900cdad0530a931fd59e4d9c990d96154e971b5 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5IjI8y/oV15bMYASromhzRKEMky3kNSlNw== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.169|webmail29.nyc.untd.com|webmail29.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:31:50 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J7439.1b47S.0be7M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain I did this flute intro with an EDP: http://www.looproom.com/aol/09_Paradox.mp3 No bumps ;-) Used: Overdub, HalfSpeed and Substitute Insert (quantized to "8ths = per cycle =3D 16..."). I'v also found Mobius on a PC capable of producing seamless loops. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen = Very Nice, seamless too! = weg ----__JWM__J7439.1b47S.0be7M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

I did this flute intro with an EDP:
http://www.looproom.com/aol/09_Paradox.mp3
No bump= s ;-)
Used: Overdub, HalfSpeed and Substitute Insert (quantized to "8= ths 
per cycle =3D 16...").

I'v also found Mobius on a P= C capable of producing seamless loops.

Greetings from Sweden
<= BR>Per Boysen

 

Very Nice, seamless too!

 

weg

----__JWM__J7439.1b47S.0be7M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 19:45:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C66673BF17; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [87.74.113.196] X-Originating-Email: [simeonharris@hotmail.com] X-Sender: simeonharris@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20060418185447.3444.qmail@web34215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "simeon harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater Bump / gilmour loops Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:45:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2006 19:45:56.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5E0A6E0:01C66320] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:45:58 +0000 (UTC) if i remember rightly, i was the first person to bring the infamous repeater "bump" to the attention of this forum ("bump" was the word i coined for it) i think it has to do with how the repeater tries to join the two ends of the wav file together and how the waveforms don't line up correctly. it's much more obvious on low frequency sounds, because the waveforms are larger and less likely to match up. i bought two d2's for seamless ambient loops because of it concerning gilmour's harmonised reverb pads...coincidentally i wrote a patch a few weeks ago that creates harmonised reverb pads using a cc pedal and it works great - the harmonies are generated by the g-force and they run into the eclipse set on an infinite delay / reverb patch at 100% wet. i also use the d2's to do this by swelling chords into a muti-tap delay set on infinite feedback. having lots of delay repeats set various time intervals helps to smooth out the pad so that you hardly get any rhythmic artifacts in the pad at all best sim www.simeonharris.co.uk www.alternityrecords.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 21:02:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54D713BEFE; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loop List From: Steve Lawson Subject: Recycle Collective gig - Wed April 19th in London Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:01:57 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - paddington.sitehq4.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Hello loopsters, Wednesday is the next Recycle Collective gig, featuring me and my looperlative, Cleveland Watkiss and his EDP and Leo Abrahams and his lappy with Ableton Live. It's going to be a fantastic night, please come down! venue - Darbucka ( www.darbucka.com ) time - doors 7pm music 8pm web stuffs - www.recyclecollective.com www.myspace.com/therecyclecollective www.darbucka.com www.clevelandwatkiss.com www.leoabrahams.com see you there! Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobasstevelawson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 21:40:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57A903BF0E; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NUCzFL7m026U49BFxiuNDHap+reQzPZuXT/z4cm2Ui4nz6LAbN84GvIZ4G6Sacii/3itTW1tVeKM0VPVKh0DRgez9knPFyhpiFcVWLwhjb3FzlmTVLZd8e2edOQ7PSQTmepOCodklAd5htOcU0P57Revrjuf8jIy5kaGwbjATwc= ; Message-ID: <20060418214042.24005.qmail@web37914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Kim's funny story about dimeola's edp demo To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Kim,i could use a funny story...maybe you could share it sometime?i was also wondering what the status of new loopers-delight t-shirts would or wouldnt be? not that i can afford one,but theres always hope! !~} you da man, danny scary. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 21:59:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A15303BF02; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T+qarIDY+HLQdQp0zKxZ4UhWDSVyYXrtCNsF6O2zytfVJ4hFFNKE/pahkhy/k72w9wYtss2oqTdRhcBF9x408TOWv30sQmtMWN6m6kIiNTcARC1iYa/uCvf+PEshJn0fsmjeB/RPiEXllHzWOLs5VbJCBq97NRCIPYeOykktJ/s= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:59:30 -0400 From: Joey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Kim's funny story about dimeola's edp demo In-Reply-To: <20060418214042.24005.qmail@web37914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060418214042.24005.qmail@web37914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Anyway we can get the Feedback 100% back on the back of the t-shirt :) On 4/18/06, daniel stevenson wrote: > Kim,i could use a funny story...maybe you could share > it sometime?i was also wondering what the status of > new loopers-delight t-shirts would or wouldnt be? not > that i can afford one,but theres always hope! !~} > you da man, > danny scary. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 22:15:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DB4B3BF13; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qso7otaRYhz3T/clKMLplircnTKGNl+zCAkMD9lCmryPi4kqfy2GTEKCReyznQarvmEtqhp+J3Oqd6IgRsGqfnd7rfMMaYWnv7gG38A3p3a9mmtwMnCp7EZRrSqg4Arj9BHAKgV7K7BWtLhTHTgQp1N6mgokH/X0L8HqwWBmae8= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:15:49 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater Bump / gilmour loops In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060418185447.3444.qmail@web34215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:15:50 +0000 (UTC) sounds like fun! On 4/18/06, simeon harris wrote: > if i remember rightly, i was the first person to bring the infamous repea= ter > "bump" to the attention of this forum ("bump" was the word i coined for i= t) > > i think it has to do with how the repeater tries to join the two ends of = the > wav file together and how the waveforms don't line up correctly. it's muc= h > more obvious on low frequency sounds, because the waveforms are larger an= d > less likely to match up. i bought two d2's for seamless ambient loops > because of it > > concerning gilmour's harmonised reverb pads...coincidentally i wrote a pa= tch > a few weeks ago that creates harmonised reverb pads using a cc pedal and = it > works great - the harmonies are generated by the g-force and they run int= o > the eclipse set on an infinite delay / reverb patch at 100% wet. i also u= se > the d2's to do this by swelling chords into a muti-tap delay set on infin= ite > feedback. having lots of delay repeats set various time intervals helps t= o > smooth out the pad so that you hardly get any rhythmic artifacts in the p= ad > at all > > best > > sim > > > www.simeonharris.co.uk > www.alternityrecords.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 18 22:40:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B5653BF01; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=B1PQqRaR6dDWNEAJdTn/0FWodx5RTmiYUY528u18wdmqtxFRkXWqlnsTMO2ZheRISx2MleqZnFxePCzor6w3SHoz4yQenTH99iUSR/hLWqEvrjT63PChIKd7E69P9jEwUAUelqD326GJfzvFrJUKE4bGzDU6EH81tAC3wfd859w= Message-ID: <5b4d09440604181540y38d625ecmd013e6ebb5152ddd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:40:32 -0400 From: "David WINNER" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NO MIDI PATCH NAMES IN DP 4.6.1...HELP SOMEONE!!! In-Reply-To: <20060418183602.54989.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <5b4d09440604180414g45f10e4apf3c42782bea1e822@mail.gmail.com> <20060418183602.54989.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Haven't you ever enhanced or built upon a loop with a little extra flavor added by a midi generated sound? Also ........ who made you the loop police? On 4/18/06, mark sottilaro wrote: > Because you obviously don't know the correct places to > look for information. In case you haven't noticed > this is a list about making music with loopers. > Perhaps a DP list may serve you better. > > --- David WINNER wrote: > > > CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY I ONLY GET PATCH NUMBERS > > INSTEAD OF THE OLD > > FAMILIAR WEIRD ROLAND MIDI PATCH NAMES IN DP4.6.1 > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 01:00:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C7033BF11; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 01:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:05:05 -0700 From: Bob Amstadt To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: MidiWizard flakiness? Message-ID: <94CC469485D6D6C751581F64@[192.168.1.149]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 01:00:41 +0000 (UTC) For the first time ever my MidiWizard flaked out and stopped sending CC messages for the expression pedals. I reset the pedal board back to factory presets and it worked again. Has anybody else had these problems? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 01:17:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 867013BF19; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 01:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,132,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="1062693443:sNHT28228944" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--401395946 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:18:48 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 01:17:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--401395946 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed OK, When I do it, I'm not on an unlimited budget either. I use cheap stuff =20= like Alesis reverbs (MIDIverb, MicroVerb, Nano Verb, etc.) patched into a pair of old Boss =20= RPS-10 pitch shifters. When I go stereo I can take the R & L out of the reverb and have each =20= of the two RPS-10s set to shift to a different interval creating more of a 3-note chordal =20= effect. The are patches on the Alesis Ineko and Akira that already seem to have =20= the reverb and harmonization combined to some degree -- but ithey're less =20 programable than individual devices. Anywho, I suggest using a small mixer of some sort and a panning pedal =20= (if you want foot control a la Gilmour). Separate your guitar signal in to two =20 parallel paths, one for straight guitar and one for the hanging chord effect via the =20 panning pedal. When you want distinct guitar notes push the pedal one way (back?) and when =20= you want the hanging chord cloud push it the other way (forward?) to pan it to the =20= other signal path. Sum both in the small mixer and sent the output of that to your amp =20 and/or PA. Find whatever stand-alone reverb effect that works for you. It'll need =20= to have the ability to have really long decay tails. Some units don't let you do this. Alesis =20= stuff is not the best sounding . . . but it does work and it's cheap. Another pedal that sortta works is the old Digitech XP-300. Experiment =20= around. That's how you find stuff out. tEd =AE kiLLiAn On Apr 18, 2006, at 7:23 AM, William White wrote: > do you have any suggestions re pedals (or rack mounts, if pedals won't = =20 > cut it)? "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? --Apple-Mail-1--401395946 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK, When I do it, I'm not on an unlimited budget either. I use cheap stuff like Alesis reverbs (MIDIverb, MicroVerb, Nano Verb, etc.) patched into a pair of old Boss RPS-10 pitch shifters. When I go stereo I can take the R & L out of the reverb and have each of the two RPS-10s=20 set to shift to a different interval creating more of a 3-note chordal effect. The are patches on the Alesis Ineko and Akira that already seem to have the reverb and harmonization combined to some degree -- but ithey're less programable than=20 individual devices. Anywho, I suggest using a small mixer of some sort and a panning pedal (if you want foot control a la Gilmour). Separate your guitar signal in to two parallel paths, one for straight guitar and one for the hanging chord effect via the panning pedal. When=20 you want distinct guitar notes push the pedal one way (back?) and when you want the=20 hanging chord cloud push it the other way (forward?) to pan it to the other signal path.=20 Sum both in the small mixer and sent the output of that to your amp and/or PA.=20 Find whatever stand-alone reverb effect that works for you. It'll need to have the ability to have really long decay tails. Some units don't let you do this. Alesis stuff is not the=20 best sounding . . . but it does work and it's cheap.=20 Another pedal that sortta works is the old Digitech XP-300. Experiment around. That's how you find stuff out. tEd =AE kiLLiAn On Apr 18, 2006, at 7:23 AM, William White wrote: do you have any suggestions re pedals (or rack mounts, if pedals won't cut it)? 807E,807E,807E"Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? --Apple-Mail-1--401395946-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 03:17:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D8D53BED5; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 03:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PzNgxWdaxoTcs69KAmbP03dqsd7ZhuyCCBgBm0zgUoNbyciB/UKn4vxcjQbD8aa0YAKLpdxJLQTi1bgzxGS+bzAl0O2gS7KR8Gff+F9ElF8x3FOC5mE4opBaesrT0SlvrJyRxoHfaGY0qOW2haroCEc0+yyrF51f549UUmXZUko= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:17:09 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Anyone got a Digitech PMC-10 for sale? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 03:17:10 +0000 (UTC) please contact me off list if you got one of these bad boys for sale. than= ks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 03:45:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD9043BEDB; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 03:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <94CC469485D6D6C751581F64@[192.168.1.149]> References: <94CC469485D6D6C751581F64@[192.168.1.149]> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:38:01 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: MidiWizard flakiness? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 03:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Yes. I have had to reset mine SO many times... I used to set up complicated assignments for my rig, but after several cycles, I gave up. I initially thought that it was the fault of my 'phantom power' source, but it seems to happen even with the wall wart supply, too. >For the first time ever my MidiWizard flaked out and stopped sending >CC messages for the expression pedals. I reset the pedal board back >to factory presets and it worked again. Has anybody else had these >problems? -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 04:03:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5F563BEE8; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 04:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Oa8ZFIe2YBY3hsrHxIH9v94HYAOZpgbgGbVqgy4qJ2hILtxcGVihqPf4qLGx/BFvLzkExAkFdM9sxL/bgwdbY/EBV4u6OaW4bt0ptp8di5bfSiDttt+PmB4hvpi6cACjthvonhhNGfsQBkfvFrWWM9GBaNayJraCrRAspYGgUHw= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:03:26 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Where to buy a Nobels MF-1 in the USA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 04:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Any ideas where i can order one of these and get it sent to my home in Brooklyn, NY? 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DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=p3KL66LcClJjIGeToU+3DgtlaCcz3K6S7X9e6m22cfh7Gyoa95lzyTu3UKhhOGD51hlHRei7UostV6Cs/4cnHB8j3ViICZa3rq+5KfojRul7lwdM+2zFNmoy43ldKqYTbG7oiqODHZZucDFPEXi+GeA4BabgIZHkQfg4EvvU470= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:11:23 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:11:27 +0000 (UTC) On 19 apr 2006, at 03.18, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > Anywho, I suggest using a small mixer of some sort and a panning =20 > pedal (if you want > foot control a la Gilmour). Separate your guitar signal in to two =20 > parallel paths, one > for straight guitar and one for the hanging chord effect via the =20 > panning pedal. When > you want distinct guitar notes push the pedal one way (back?) and =20 > when you want the > hanging chord cloud push it the other way (forward?) to pan it to =20 > the other signal path. > Sum both in the small mixer and sent the output of that to your =20 > amp and/or PA. > > Find whatever stand-alone reverb effect that works for you. It'll =20 > need to have the ability to > have really long decay tails. Some units don't let you do this. =20 > Alesis stuff is not the > best sounding . . . but it does work and it's cheap. If you play with a computer in your rig there is also this Ableton =20 Live reverb patch named "Freeze Verb". Audio is kept "hanging" and =20 reverb loop is not "emptied" until new audio is input. It's like a =20 "loop feedback =3D100 %" that goes down to 80% when new audio is =20 input. Very cool IMHO. Especially when using a pedal/button MIDI =20 assigned to the software's Aux Send knob and sending just short parts =20= of your playing into the hanging ambience drone. "Reverb looping" ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 11:52:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 797B73BEDB; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EWb7oaHQOW8h2SizCi4k2DCrwJTquynuKD1zXvK4jm5bpBqVtb4ggZCDEQfbsPwW90EGXRWgUsn+3uW+nDfpbf/sb13vos/pzlvARq/v88S+SvLHnmUYEg1+dwSzt4v9mkUZ7HLVfVr25VmgWDzuGmPemisAJAioxfFRMBckePE= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:52:21 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Kim's funny story about dimeola's edp demo In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060418214042.24005.qmail@web37914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:52:23 +0000 (UTC) dimeola uses an EDP? I am lost! On 4/18/06, Joey wrote: > Anyway we can get the Feedback 100% back on the back of the t-shirt :) > > On 4/18/06, daniel stevenson wrote: > > Kim,i could use a funny story...maybe you could share > > it sometime?i was also wondering what the status of > > new loopers-delight t-shirts would or wouldnt be? not > > that i can afford one,but theres always hope! !~} > > you da man, > > danny scary. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 13:24:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB0B63BEDE; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C663B4.8796DBCA" Subject: RE: Where to buy a Nobels MF-1 in the USA? Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:24:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Where to buy a Nobels MF-1 in the USA? Thread-Index: AcZjZjerbyKV2YGySruduR7ZoLP50QATHCPw From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2006 13:24:05.0327 (UTC) FILETIME=[87FAEDF0:01C663B4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:24:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C663B4.8796DBCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I bought one by tracking down the distributor in Tennessee and then getting a local music store to order it, as the distributor would only sell to retailers. I believe that since then the distributor has gone out of business, but you should check. The functionality of the MF-2 is fabulous and its footprint smaller than the FCB-1010. However, if you delve into what users have to say about it, you'll see that the build quality has been called into question. The exterior including the switches seems solid enough, but apparently the wiring is a bit of a rat's nest; I've never opened mine. Then there is the battery, which is necessary to hold the memory. It is soldered in place and reportedly difficult to replace. Me MF-2 started indicating the need for battery replacement more than a year ago, and I went looking for a battery. Here is the reply I got: "Hello Hal Dean Please let the internal CR2032 battery check by a technician. The Battery is soldered to the main-pcb - therefor it is no user-servicable-part. -- Best Regards Kai Tachibana Nobels Electronics http://www.nobels.com" At this point I was getting a lot more serious about using my EDP, read in LD all the raves about the FCB-1010, and bought one. The MF-2 sits in a closet awaiting the day when I want to track down a battery and either tackle what is reportedly a tricky soldering job, or give it to a tech to do... or better yet have it modified so the battery can be more readily replaced. Support is non-existent in the US, unless something has changed significantly in the past year. Think thrice before you buy an MF-2. Howl Din -----Original Message----- From: mark t [mailto:aleatoric12@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:03 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Where to buy a Nobels MF-1 in the USA? Any ideas where i can order one of these and get it sent to my home in Brooklyn, NY? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C663B4.8796DBCA Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Where to buy a Nobels MF-1 in the USA?

I bought one by = tracking down the distributor in Tennessee and then getting a local = music store to order it, as the distributor would only sell to = retailers.

I believe that = since then the distributor has gone out of business, but you should = check.

The functionality = of the MF-2 is fabulous and its footprint smaller than the FCB-1010. = However, if you delve into what users have to say about it, you'll see = that the build quality has been called into question. The exterior = including the switches seems solid enough, but apparently the wiring is = a bit of a rat's nest; I've never opened mine.

Then there is the = battery, which is necessary to hold the memory.  It is soldered in = place and reportedly difficult to replace. Me MF-2 started indicating = the need for battery replacement more than a year ago, and I went = looking for a battery.  Here is the reply I got:

    "Hello Hal = Dean

    Please let the = internal CR2032 battery check by a technician. The Battery is soldered = to the main-pcb - therefor it is no = user-servicable-part.

    --
    Best = Regards
    Kai = Tachibana

    Nobels = Electronics
    http://www.nobels.com"

At this point I = was getting a lot more serious about using my EDP, read in LD all the = raves about the FCB-1010, and bought one.  The MF-2 sits in a = closet awaiting the day when I want to track down a battery and either = tackle what is reportedly a tricky soldering job, or give it to a tech = to do... or better yet have it modified so the battery can be more = readily replaced.

Support is = non-existent in the US, unless something has changed significantly in = the past year. Think thrice before you buy an MF-2.

Howl Din


-----Original = Message-----
From: mark t = [mailto:aleatoric12@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, = April 19, 2006 12:03 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Where to = buy a Nobels MF-1 in the USA?


Any ideas where i = can order one of these and get it sent to my home in Brooklyn, = NY?

------_=_NextPart_001_01C663B4.8796DBCA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 14:01:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA2933BEE6; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-72.messagelabs.com!1145455259!34231963!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC90F6@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE:verb looping (was Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:00:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C663B9.AE2F1AA0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:01:02 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C663B9.AE2F1AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>If you play with a computer in your rig there is also this Ableton Live reverb patch named "Freeze Verb"....."Reverb looping" ;-)<< I have been playing with a long delay (from an echo-pro) but with the feedback loop going via the mixing desk instead of internally. it's then possible to send the delay back to itself via a reverb. I use a "great british spring" which is a stereo spring reverb in a plastic drainpipe..... with the effects on different sends, & returned up normal mixer channels, you can then vary the amount of reverb sent back to the delay, the amount of delay sent back to the delay, the amount of either sent to the reverb, & the amount of either that you actually hear at the main output. avoiding horrible howlrounds is the tricky part, but once it's settled down, the results are quite nice. duncan. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. 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MTV Networks Europe *************************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C663B9.AE2F1AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE:verb looping (was Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops)</TIT= LE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>If you play with a computer in your rig there is = also this Ableton  </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Live reverb patch named "Freeze Verb".....&quo= t;Reverb looping"  ;-)<<</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have been playing with a long delay (from an echo-pro) = but with the feedback loop going via the mixing desk instead of internally.= it's then possible to send the delay back to itself via a reverb. I use a = "great british spring" which is a stereo spring reverb in a plast= ic drainpipe.....</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>with the effects on different sends, & returned up no= rmal mixer channels, you can then vary the amount of reverb sent back to th= e delay, the amount of delay sent back to the delay, the amount of either s= ent to the reverb, & the amount of either that you actually hear at the= main output. avoiding horrible howlrounds is the tricky part, but once it'= s settled down, the results are quite nice.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>duncan.</FONT> </P> <CODE><FONT SIZE=3D3><BR> <BR> ***************************************************************************= <BR> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE<BR> <BR> The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user<BR> of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also<BR> be privileged. 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Any views or opinions expressed in this<BR> e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily<BR> represent those of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated,<BR> nor does this message form any part of any contract unless so stated.<BR> <BR> MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from<BR> external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct <BR> and appropriate use of MTV communication equipment.<BR> <BR> MTV Networks Europe<BR> ***************************************************************************= <BR> </FONT></CODE> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C663B9.AE2F1AA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 14:29:31 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C823A3BEDF; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <stefan-tiedje@addcom.de> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20060419142929115.02C532800155@mwinf1007.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:29:27 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Scene References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <Yxl5aD.A.OGE.LlkREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Came too late to this interesting thread Kevin wrote: > Look at Jamie Lidell's looping performance: > http://www.jamielidell.com/video/rfh.html First of all: thanks for the link, its a great performance. (Though this kind of fast video blinking does not necessarily fit my taste...) > But I think each of has to make a decision about why were doing what > we're doing. If we want to be pure artists then we take one path. > If we want to reach a lot of people maybe we take another path. This video does show that there are paths which serve both. This guy is reaching an audience and undoubtedly delivering art at the same time. johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > Art is when I create music in my studio. In private. Performance is > when I ask strangers to approve of my art. In public. I'd say the opposite: Art is not that what we produce at home without audience, the term art only makes sense within a context of an audience. And that means if we want to give something to the audience, we must not ignore them. But art is not about entertainment, though it could be entertaining... Performance is a special social experience with high risks and even more fun...;-) > Which is the better path? I don't know, but I think I choose Mozart. There is no better path than my own path and its neither Mozart nor Beethoven... Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 14:54:43 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 385233BEDA; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <mech@m3ch.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p06230900c06bfde73a46@[172.16.2.239]> In-Reply-To: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC90F6@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com > References: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC90F6@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:53:32 +0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech <mech@m3ch.net> Subject: RE:verb looping (was Advice sought - unbroken, seamless loops) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <aq1MDC.A.I3E.y8kREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:54:43 +0000 (UTC) At 3:00 PM +0100 4/19/06, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote: > >>If you play with a computer in your rig there is also this Ableton >Live reverb patch named "Freeze Verb"....."Reverb looping" ;-)<< > >I have been playing with a long delay (from an echo-pro) but with >the feedback loop going via the mixing desk instead of internally. >it's then possible to send the delay back to itself via a reverb. I >use a "great british spring" which is a stereo spring reverb in a >plastic drainpipe..... Also, it's been a while since I've had mine plugged in, but the Lex LXP-5 has a great "infinite reverb" program, IIRC. I used to turn all kinds of things into a droning reverb mush using only a volume fader and that patch. --m. -- _______ "If Television is a babysitter, then the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 15:04:43 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D9FB3BEF0; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <rune_fagereng@yahoo.no> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0EHC3PckJQ9FN2ReApHqUG2cNoYiQFtjjxYDaqjf/Htn449QGYg6nHhhXlarnGskkKpWkhkmt9G3uSH/zvrxM1DGUUffgIsqF89xB9dx8ELZeR7du8boioX4+5PrfkQFBRPcBKPHeEHAkrzCfX7TNqkEMR8UEmNCvKShdnVR7QY= ; Message-ID: <20060419150441.13896.qmail@web26209.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:04:41 +0200 (CEST) From: rune fagereng <rune_fagereng@yahoo.no> Subject: kind of looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-326527349-1145459081=:13826" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <5hjtVC.A.ZqF.KGlREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:04:42 +0000 (UTC) --0-326527349-1145459081=:13826 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have made my first sound-clips on the computer ! http://www.runefagereng.com/sound.htm Best regards of Rune F --0-326527349-1145459081=:13826 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <div>I have made my first sound-clips on the computer !</div> <div> </div> <div><A href="http://www.runefagereng.com/sound.htm">http://www.runefagereng.com/sound.htm</A></div> <div> </div> <div>Best regards of Rune F</div> --0-326527349-1145459081=:13826-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 15:06:43 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35ADE3BEEA; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <awetterberg@post.cybercity.dk> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on smtp2.ruc.dk X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: Message-ID: <444651FD.30008@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:06:37 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg <awetterberg@post.cybercity.dk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Scene References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <eSiL2C.A.H2F.CIlREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Came too late to this interesting thread > > Kevin wrote: >> Look at Jamie Lidell's looping performance: >> http://www.jamielidell.com/video/rfh.html > > First of all: thanks for the link, its a great performance. (Though this > kind of fast video blinking does not necessarily fit my taste...) > >> But I think each of has to make a decision about why were doing what >> we're doing. If we want to be pure artists then we take one path. >> If we want to reach a lot of people maybe we take another path. > > This video does show that there are paths which serve both. This guy is > reaching an audience and undoubtedly delivering art at the same time. yeah... well... his livesets are an odd mish-mash of straight pop-songs and odd looping stuff. He's definitely doing things to bridge the gap, but I dare say that his entire audience doesn't dig his looping stuff. As an aside: It's an awesome max-patch he's using - or rather: he's quite skilled at using it. And that drop where the sub-synthed bassline comes in is golden. Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 15:12:24 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44FCF3BEF4; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SQNAdSJvNuVsbn6noi1J/NZd0PN0iOYNqr51sRUABx65gLozhdg5y+Tz7o7L0WOF0rIQt1JIl6BFyP+dP9LF02z+Ohtch3iQGZK/672DiNyXyiZIqg69BUS+yd+AwsIy6GZ+UbBasljTT8f/BzeoX/0oJ6lIs8QoiutqbS3BoNg= ; Message-ID: <20060419151222.67193.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:12:22 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> Subject: digitech x-series delay (4sec) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060419132407.671E43BEE0@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1016387118-1145459542=:67137" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <mL2y5.A.jNG.YNlREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:12:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-1016387118-1145459542=:67137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i just finished doing some recording tests using my new digitech x-series delay, and was quite impressed with the results. i sort of switch back and forth between the digital delay (4 sec) and the tape delay (2 sec), and it is most fun to control the feedback if you keep it at 3o'clock you can add stuff, and then move it to 100% (about 5 oclock) it locks in & you can play over it. granted its a lot of hand/finger manipulation (twiddling) but i'm a twiddler....if you desire foot control, it's probably not for you, that would be a lot of bending over and reaching & w/ my back troubles, that would be trouble. my last set of recordings were attempts at doing some "live in my studio" stuff -after listening to all the folks who's cds i've traded w/ who do live looping-which has been very inspirational, and for me its my weakest area (hard to do and keep interest, quality up i think for me). but i thought digitech's delay works quite well in achieving some wacky effects and sounds (i also used it inconjuction w/ my rp100, zoom g2, and my dod d-12). and for 100$ roughly, it has been a useful tool.... my 2 cents for today... s--- --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-1016387118-1145459542=:67137 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <div>i just finished doing some recording tests using my new</div> <div>digitech x-series delay,  and was quite impressed with the results.</div> <div>i sort of switch back and forth between the digital delay (4 sec)</div> <div>and the tape delay (2 sec), and it is most fun to control the feedback </div> <div>if you keep it at 3o'clock you can add stuff, and then move it to 100% (about</div> <div>5 oclock)  it locks in & you can play over it. granted its a lot of hand/finger</div> <div>manipulation (twiddling) but i'm a twiddler....if you desire foot control, it's probably not</div> <div>for you, that would be a lot of bending over and reaching & w/ my back troubles, that</div> <div>would be trouble.</div> <div>my last set of recordings were attempts at doing some "live in my studio" stuff -after listening to all the folks who's cds i've traded w/ who do live looping-which has been</div> <div>very inspirational, and for me its my weakest area (hard to do and keep interest, quality up i think for me). but i thought digitech's delay works quite well in achieving some wacky effects and sounds (i also used it inconjuction w/ my rp100, zoom g2, and my dod d-12). and for 100$ roughly, it has been a useful tool....</div> <div>my 2 cents for today...</div> <div>s---</div><p> <hr size=1>Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39666/*http://beta.messenger.yahoo.com"> Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-1016387118-1145459542=:67137-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 15:35:24 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1E673BED5; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <david@trufun.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p0623090cc06c078191b4@[10.0.1.3]> In-Reply-To: <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:30:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans <david@trufun.com> Subject: Re: Music Scene Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <Nk5JkC.A.SJH.8ilREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:35:24 +0000 (UTC) At 4:29 PM +0200 4/19/06, Stefan Tiedje wrote: >>But I think each of has to make a decision about why were doing what >> we're doing. If we want to be pure artists then we take one path. >>If we want to reach a lot of people maybe we take another path. > >This video does show that there are paths which serve both. This guy is >reaching an audience and undoubtedly delivering art at the same time. "Making art" and :reaching people" are not mutually exclusive, fergawdsakes. I've heard it said that it's easy to make a million dollars if you don't care how you do it, and I suppose that's why there is so much crap in the marketplace - but not all successful art is crap. >I'd say the opposite: Art is not that what we produce at home without >audience, the term art only makes sense within a context of an audience. >And that means if we want to give something to the audience, we must not >ignore them. But art is not about entertainment, though it could be >entertaining... >Performance is a special social experience with high risks and even >more fun...;-) > >>Which is the better path? I don't know, but I think I choose Mozart. > >There is no better path than my own path and its neither Mozart nor >Beethoven... I like it! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 16:13:07 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AA053BEDE; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <perboysen@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=S8AKF6RCiDKROapuMgwLwjpcIHMLgdpuhlD8NwSzADy++tgjFOWNSjkdD8ESUwJldVK8po22fXDfKca0OSQzZ59sx1Lr+Zzo5tvpge2mi660Tk04a7lRUzZEyqCK+xOBGDT4uuOdSzTXbS925t9PKeCT3ygCPkBSASHXLHQbSdY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <p0623090cc06c078191b4@[10.0.1.3]> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <p0623090cc06c078191b4@[10.0.1.3]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Music Scene Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:13:02 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <MenyaC.A.TGB.SGmREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi friends, For a healthy long time I have been enjoying lots of interesting posts in this thread. Right now it suddenly hit me how we compare our musical tastes on this list without much thinking about how differently we all experience music. Even the same individual can change musical taste rather rapidly over time. The key word that trigged these thoughts was "Jamie Lidell". When I first heard about him on several online boards I had not been listening to much of his stuff (except for old Supercollider etc). But I was very excited to read interviews where he was talking about his plans to conquer declining CD sales by setting up a live rig that would let him both perform and remix electronic dance music in a real-time improvisational way (his famous Max patch). However, when I finally bought his record and saw this video clip I couldn't help being left with the feeling of disappointment. Why? It just appeared as I was seeing and hearing different dimensions of his art than other people. I had expecting something unique and then I was confronted with "the usual soul singer style music". This reaction was of course subjective, since I was never a fan of Marvin Gaye ;-)) But IF I should have been a Marvin Gaye fan I might have thought that Lidells show kicked ass because it "he does bend the right notes", or whatever... Well, I don't really know where I'm trying to take this, but I just have this feeling that we may not always discuss the same thing when talking about "art" and "looping". Why are we not talking about "showmanship" and "entertainment" that much? I think those were the dimensions of Lidells show that made me like it even though I wasn't very keen on "the content". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 16:36:13 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85BD83BEDD; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <david@trufun.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p06230915c06c14d1b06f@[10.0.1.3]> In-Reply-To: <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <p0623090cc06c078191b4@[10.0.1.3]> <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:33:59 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans <david@trufun.com> Subject: Re: Music Scene Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <UoV_oB.A.iIC.9bmREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:36:13 +0000 (UTC) At 6:13 PM +0200 4/19/06, Per Boysen wrote: >since I was never a fan of Marvin Gaye ;-) That, sir, is a terrible deficiency :^) Get hold of a tape of the TAMI/TNT show and see if he isn't the sexiest thing alive. >I just have this feeling that we may not always discuss the same >thing when talking about "art" and "looping". Why are we not talking >about "showmanship" and "entertainment" that much? I think those >were the dimensions of Lidells show that made me like it even though >I wasn't very keen on "the content". I play a lot of music festivals - in the area of the musical map where "Americana," "Bluegrass," and "Jamband" coincide - and I get to see a lot of different kinds of music and musicianship. An awful lot of the most crowd-pleasing music is all about flashy technique, superhuman speed, etc. And there's also a disturbing (to me) amount of music that is utterly impoverished in terms of songwriting, melody, storytelling, and other attributes that I value most highly. The vast majority of the hippie jamband music I'm exposed to bores me to tears, and makes me think I'm not taking the "right" drugs to appreciate it. It comes across to me as mindless riffing. But hey, these things are beyond my reach: I am not likely to deliver mindblowing cascades of 256th notes, nor 20-minute psychedelic excursions into inner space. I take care not to lose myself in resentment of those who are profiting from what I see as a decline in the esthetics of American popular culture. I'm smart enough to know they were saying pretty much the same thing about the music I was devoted to when I was a kid. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 16:51:20 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 569E53BECF; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <perboysen@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=e6CDaGinOAOkMjGjXbWZzkDOTi5FpcTxf4rQ6Kd2KRsvT/WqWLn8C9z2XWwXQ68++P/lxFX5bxVmbgE4o8d7+6sbtk3794lWLrLIDNtPDtpv0upsKiwehEX0FNWQfLipKH/9hla/2a9NgpenjE9G+wbWsYyuS0oV8ggmQRkz7tk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <p06230915c06c14d1b06f@[10.0.1.3]> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <p0623090cc06c078191b4@[10.0.1.3]> <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> <p06230915c06c14d1b06f@[10.0.1.3]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <F6490393-F2FE-4BBC-884A-C256ACC50566@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> Subject: List problem with Gmail Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:51:14 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <hQIFoB.A.zyC.HqmREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi, A while back I re-subscribed through my Gmail account, but since then I never see my own mails making it into the list. Not until someone answered one of my posts I understood that my posts sent through Gmail actually turned up on the list - distributed to everyone except me. Anyone know about such Gmail issues? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen (probably soon going back to the old mail account for this list) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 16:51:32 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 542D13BEF8; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <andrew@andrew-duke.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:51:25 -0300 From: Andrew Duke <andrew@andrew-duke.com> Subject: Jamie Lidell live looping movie To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <b70afbb66949b60079833c9e0fb55e4d@charter.net> <EC0BF5BC-E03D-4250-9395-760C6C1D9680@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 (CK-SillyDog) Resent-Message-ID: <WBebKB.A.u4C.TqmREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Apologies if this has already been posted: http://www.warprecords.com/jamielidell/jamie_rfh2004_large.mov Got to interview him for my syndicated show a few years back and he's a very talented (and artistic) guy. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 16:56:02 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3370C3BEF9; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <dmorton@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U99fEf1ro3S2nOg1WV0xaRewNKre9SH0WvK3dSvyi1eCAHX9K0PuSadD/BEt4hfxx94A0TLQVKJ4f2O4hPuuYVk7HMGPCscq+4muuqvHe7isquJ8E/wvvcAIx1EI5TLmBuJqugaXD/NgVR8DJVU5b4kK+xKNjASWSguIhoMWmmk= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604190956r2328a625m9d839fa4fd826bab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:56:00 +0100 From: "David Morton" <dmorton@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: List problem with Gmail In-Reply-To: <F6490393-F2FE-4BBC-884A-C256ACC50566@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <p0623090cc06c078191b4@10.0.1.3> <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> <p06230915c06c14d1b06f@10.0.1.3> <F6490393-F2FE-4BBC-884A-C256ACC50566@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <g2iUaB.A.JHD.humREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) On 4/19/06, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > A while back I re-subscribed through my Gmail account, but since then > I never see my own mails making it into the list. All I can say is that I use gmail for this list and it's fine. That's not very helpful, I know, but it can work. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 16:59:01 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80E03BEEE; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <mech@m3ch.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p06230901c06c1bdf3c6a@[192.168.2.2]> In-Reply-To: <F6490393-F2FE-4BBC-884A-C256ACC50566@gmail.com> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <p0623090cc06c078191b4@[10.0.1.3]> <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> <p06230915c06c14d1b06f@[10.0.1.3]> <F6490393-F2FE-4BBC-884A-C256ACC50566@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:58:37 +0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech <mech@m3ch.net> Subject: Re: List problem with Gmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <g6GniB.A.fXD.UxmREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:59:01 +0000 (UTC) At 6:51 PM +0200 4/19/06, Per Boysen wrote: > >A while back I re-subscribed through my Gmail account, but since >then I never see my own mails making it into the list. Not until >someone answered one of my posts I understood that my posts sent >through Gmail actually turned up on the list - distributed to >everyone except me. Anyone know about such Gmail issues? I don't use mine much for lists, but when I do something similar drives me buggy: it takes my "outgoing" email, and adds that to the conversation thread it's tracking. I don't ever see confirmation that the incoming message has actually hit the list either. Aggravating? Yes. You're not alone... --m. -- _______ "The revolution may be someone somewhere else..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 17:00:30 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D9323BF0B; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <perboysen@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=FGauQfLamhNd33sfw10N+QoElQEaULOIAV/U3x6fMVsXvFdGdv/ZSLQllNU0S3x+/u6kx6FvytRsQIOqn9IJ3ofQg+IWRE2n2e9RfDqrnM1VBE/dkAT/Z9TEdNbv0pXQXdmSk3VhyJgIuyTFbNffH4vvmTaUmG629dumZMHzeVA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <353e2ed80604190956r2328a625m9d839fa4fd826bab@mail.gmail.com> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <p0623090cc06c078191b4@10.0.1.3> <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> <p06230915c06c14d1b06f@10.0.1.3> <F6490393-F2FE-4BBC-884A-C256ACC50566@gmail.com> <353e2ed80604190956r2328a625m9d839fa4fd826bab@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4BF43CBA-CD07-4D22-806F-CA80396D5A8C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: List problem with Gmail Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:00:26 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <wdU1_C.A.06D.tymREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:00:30 +0000 (UTC) > On 4/19/06, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A while back I re-subscribed through my Gmail account, but since then >> I never see my own mails making it into the list. On 19 apr 2006, at 18.56, David Morton wrote: > All I can say is that I use gmail for this list and it's fine. That's > not very helpful, I know, but it can work. Thanks, David. Then it could be that the Gmail spam filter is deleting my own mails as spam ;-)) Will check out... per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 17:18:06 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CC5D3BEF6; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <pilotcp@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OQBlftZul/qq6noJQLq5j3gqe153MAOaFZOHzUno7v5CrMruKpXz3YLK/xTk2maaxj49vrqVs+83e2eDK1NKrMPWzqizKJTR0+/Jolc/BqhzutL66HRiSZGfEtbvVg5Evngr6ybn6IwM2mDSgnbzEVs7o5zIGlO1Ox/8mBxRVnU= Message-ID: <913728d60604191018n52e4f49dyb5a961d74c34e7e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:18:05 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" <pilotcp@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie In-Reply-To: <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <b70afbb66949b60079833c9e0fb55e4d@charter.net> <EC0BF5BC-E03D-4250-9395-760C6C1D9680@gmail.com> <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> Resent-Message-ID: <hSVHCC.A.gkE.ODnREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:18:06 +0000 (UTC) that guy is insane :) Charlie On 4/19/06, Andrew Duke <andrew@andrew-duke.com> wrote: > Apologies if this has already been posted: > http://www.warprecords.com/jamielidell/jamie_rfh2004_large.mov > > Got to interview him for my syndicated show a few years back and > he's a very talented (and artistic) guy. > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > http://myspace.com/andrewduke > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 17:56:47 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64EAF3BEF5; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <johnsrude@peak.org> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2409.128.193.37.212.1145469404.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <p0623090cc06c078191b4@[10.0.1.3]> <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Music Scene From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <R6NTfD.A.75F.ennREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote: > Why are we not talking about "showmanship" and "entertainment" that much? Possibly because most musicians see themselves more as artists rather than entertainers. But at the same time they resent the success of other musicians who are more popular because they know how to entertain. Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 17:58:45 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E72E3BF00; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <skeptikalist@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=B4fnOJ6S38Bjq87azZTqnJ9JkghFTaGBlxpN9C7I8Dd2IILL7lqTgfcFU9FpVSyk7dPLWWPUlIOMqYqjcy6d5uOPNpyD5dXYrmVjN/ExUWim3wD4+84rG/xE4fql8+iTmokDukjSBUT0GG6c3qpKjXSWtzAis9NpJFz2qdeWWgI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <4BF43CBA-CD07-4D22-806F-CA80396D5A8C@gmail.com> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <p0623090cc06c078191b4@10.0.1.3> <A61AF66B-BF1E-4ABA-BB71-EDF3826A9BE7@gmail.com> <p06230915c06c14d1b06f@10.0.1.3> <F6490393-F2FE-4BBC-884A-C256ACC50566@gmail.com> <353e2ed80604190956r2328a625m9d839fa4fd826bab@mail.gmail.com> <4BF43CBA-CD07-4D22-806F-CA80396D5A8C@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <132121E0-2F62-4050-81FA-FE69C724B3B5@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> Subject: Re: List problem with Gmail Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:58:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <nOCGJB.A.8EG.VpnREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 19, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On 4/19/06, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A while back I re-subscribed through my Gmail account, but since >>> then >>> I never see my own mails making it into the list. > From Gmail Help ctr.: <<Why am I not receiving my messages? Mail you send or forward to a mailing list you subscribe to, or to an account that forwards messages to your Gmail account, will only appear in 'Sent Mail.' This is intended to help prevent clutter in your inbox. If a message isn't successfully delivered, you'll receive an error message in your inbox.>>>> regards BobC http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://tinyurl.com/cr25j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 17:59:41 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 263CF3BF0A; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <johnsrude@peak.org> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2501.128.193.37.212.1145469579.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> References: <b70afbb66949b60079833c9e0fb55e4d@charter.net> <EC0BF5BC-E03D-4250-9395-760C6C1D9680@gmail.com> <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <lAjpL.A.ClG.MqnREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:59:41 +0000 (UTC) > Got to interview him for my syndicated show a few years back and > he's a very talented (and artistic) guy. Jamie Lidell video setup is what I'd like to use in performance. Thomas Dolby's, too. Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:03:02 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4D9A3BF01; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=11i6bM9KooktbAPO/fJqOCf+80pEzOPljIBnQbBZRY7gXnXLrkCzUCtvenbv9Ur/+ADgX6jORRdG7f1S7dcBh7jsqMdXBbh1Zs85LnGluR0Kgp3ABsxCVyn8nKDaAdsFDUQ9CJoUVQ4heCXaTK0MdxnyV+Zfq9KXUbT/oVIiAcA= ; Message-ID: <20060419180300.46984.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <9JP01D.A.AxG.WtnREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:03:02 +0000 (UTC) And speaking of looped beat boxing, there's always Andrew... http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=media.video&ID=44557f8ab800a956d12bb3ba402d4ca1 Hi Andrew! Mark --- Andrew Duke <andrew@andrew-duke.com> wrote: > Apologies if this has already been posted: > http://www.warprecords.com/jamielidell/jamie_rfh2004_large.mov > > Got to interview him for my syndicated show a few > years back and > he's a very talented (and artistic) guy. > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > http://myspace.com/andrewduke > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:05:00 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28F003BF10; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KG7Mp6PMrA8pA7ym+yP/uYUN8cpBgce3zOMfJJJZWuoJcERkFLiU93xgAboQN8D67cJ9VXOdKOVn2j3x6xE5ByRYAl4McZnvlfVld39HZREdaN4H3JyFg+pGqh0aXbBPPf9nfZvt4XJ646Y/LO10IMfuiIDqEMqNlvFJqsoCIag= ; Message-ID: <20060419180458.45615.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:04:58 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2501.128.193.37.212.1145469579.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <X9Z-R.A.96G.LvnREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:05:00 +0000 (UTC) The tools have been around for a while: http://www.arkaos.net/ Really fun. I used to use this all the time back in the day. --- johnsrude@peak.org wrote: > > Got to interview him for my syndicated show a few > years back and > > he's a very talented (and artistic) guy. > > Jamie Lidell video setup is what I'd like to use in > performance. Thomas > Dolby's, too. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:06:33 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FFAD3BF11; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> References: <b70afbb66949b60079833c9e0fb55e4d@charter.net> <EC0BF5BC-E03D-4250-9395-760C6C1D9680@gmail.com> <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <a2b1db96a12173e729f79d5832269a72@pfmentum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Kaiser <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com> Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:06:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: <aDzTrD.A.tDH.ownREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andrew, I'm very much enjoying listening to your stuff on myspace.....I'm=20 digging your grooves and textures/timbres....very hip.....(out of=20 curiousity, what software you using? I'm always curious about the=20 creative tools)....I love that few seconds of sonic atmosphere...Buy=20 First Second Free is nice, combining the beautiful glitch with=20 time...very nice...Maybe if I get to Halifax some day, we could play=20 some music...(I know nothing of halifax, is there a happening=20 experimental music scene there?) RE: Lidell: I see why some people like him (energetic groove based=20 performance) but he's not my cup of tea. (I do keep hearing reference=20 to him using Max....good!)....but I personally can't stand all his=20 dancing around. But I do like the video...looks like somebody was using=20= Jitter? I wonder if I'd like the music if I didn't see him bopping and=20= waving about...but hey, maybe I'd be popular if I started=20 dancing/waving/bopping like that....(doubt it. who wants to see a=20 shaved head quarter-tone trumpet playing looper dance around....MAYBE=20 Ted Killian and I will dance together at our performance at=20 BEMF....Ted?) For me, I like music to hit on multiple dimensions:=20 Visceral, Emotional, Intellectual (kind of gut, feeling, form)...these=20= are not strict categories, but flexible with a lot of=20 crossover......the music I enjoy the most is a multi-dimensional hit.=20 Where I thoroughly enjoyed the viscerality of Lidell's beats and=20 singing, I personally missed depth in the other dimensions... cheers, Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com On Apr 19, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Andrew Duke wrote: > Apologies if this has already been posted: > http://www.warprecords.com/jamielidell/jamie_rfh2004_large.mov > > Got to interview him for my syndicated show a few years back and > he's a very talented (and artistic) guy. > Andrew > > --=20 > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > http://myspace.com/andrewduke > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:11:38 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 164673BEF1; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:12:37 -0400 From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> Subject: RE: Music Scene In-reply-to: <444651FD.30008@post.cybercity.dk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000001c663dc$d72578f0$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <Ji09a.A.cVH.Z1nREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:11:38 +0000 (UTC) > > > > Kevin wrote: > >> Look at Jamie Lidell's looping performance: > >> http://www.jamielidell.com/video/rfh.html > Interesting clip, though I thought it would have been stronger at about half the length... I always find it fascinating to watch the different hybrid approaches that loopers use when performing live - Looping is "just" a tool, not a musical genre, but most of the interesting stuff that you can do with looping is pretty incompatible with traditional song (and, indeed, musical) forms, IMO. For those of us weaned on minimalism and/or free-form improv, there's a fairly natural fit. As far as other forms go, it seems to me that you usually have to twist or limit the form in fairly substantial ways to "work in" looping, if that's what you want to do (those with more experience at it probably have more valid opinions) - audiences (and, indeed, listeners in general) don't always love genre-bending. In my experience, people value showmanship (already discussed in this thread at length) and authenticity/integrity (and at least intermediate-level instrumental competence, but that's just the entry requirement). It's not clear exactly what "integrity" means in this context, but I can illustrate by saying that it's more satisfying to me to hear someone go hog-wild with looper-induced ecstasy than to hear someone try to make up for the lack of a bass player in a song by looping a full chorus of bass synth before really jumping into the tune (playing over the bass). The first scenario demonstrates deep involvement with and commitment to the instrument, the second seems to be an economics-based (or convenience-based) compromise. When I'm listening to music with a looper, I want to hear music that *requires* a looper. (maybe I'm a hypocrite, since I don't feel the same way about, say, guitar or piano or even a guitar effects box, or maybe loopers are just in a different category) Does art happen on stage or in the studio? Clearly, in both places, but they have different goals, at least for me. When I'm in the studio, I try to produce a recording that I will enjoy listening to over repeated listenings spanning many years. When I play in public, I'm playing improvisations that will necessarily be less focussed and "perfect" than edited work, but will have all those joys of spontaneous expression that most of us here know well. Also, in public, if I'm really on, I'm "playing the room" rather than playing my instrument - the audience *is* my instrument - and they'll need to go clean their brains with a good solvent afterwards, just as I do my strings :-) Warren Sirota Come hear *The Sandbox* at The Monkey in NYC, April 23rd, 8PM - details at www.warrensirota.com/sandbox Most recent recording: Play Date - http://cdbaby.com/cd/sandbox From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:17:59 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AF0B3BF0D; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <andrew@andrew-duke.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:17:49 -0300 From: Andrew Duke <andrew@andrew-duke.com> Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <44467ECD.6090601@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <b70afbb66949b60079833c9e0fb55e4d@charter.net> <EC0BF5BC-E03D-4250-9395-760C6C1D9680@gmail.com> <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> <a2b1db96a12173e729f79d5832269a72@pfmentum.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 (CK-SillyDog) Resent-Message-ID: <1aTth.A.onH.X7nREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Kaiser wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > I'm very much enjoying listening to your stuff on myspace.....I'm > digging your grooves and textures/timbres....very hip.....(out of > curiousity, what software you using? I'm always curious about the > creative tools)....I love that few seconds of sonic atmosphere...Buy > First Second Free is nice, combining the beautiful glitch with > time...very nice...Maybe if I get to Halifax some day, we could play > some music...(I know nothing of halifax, is there a happening > experimental music scene there?) Hi, Jeff. Halifax doesn't have a big enough experimental music scene for me to afford to get you here and back (even in cases where artists come to play and do so just to make their gas money back, they've often *not* made their gas money back)--Halifax is very much a city that is into rock music and dance music. But if you're ever travelling on the East coast of Canada and want to get together, definitely get in touch. Glad to hear you like my stuff. For my material, I tend to create the sounds with Native Instruments Reaktor and Audiomulch and then put things together with Ableton Live. The FX medley is bits from my Sonic Atmospheres 1 downloadable samplepack. Take care. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:21:46 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAE153BF19; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <vsyevolod@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=I0ShWw7T/z+GR8VG9hJVIAvB3J6Ys3lu5DDTMjrupRDXgPXnQ6QuxrHH7HRvWg7LGsgc9QXidiTjiv6UhoPzD+Rx28kur86WMng05abqWDeoWShsdjHzt66S5fLd21vFH4sOEJPsoMoZ6oy7sSHRg/guAPC7hs5AYP9v7RQ3hpY= ; Message-ID: <20060419182144.14433.qmail@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:21:44 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G <vsyevolod@yahoo.com> Subject: News From Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060419165132.A6C6A3BEFE@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <nA34eD.A.L4H.6-nREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Surprised that no-one has reposted this. Fresh from the Electrix website and RepeaterUsers group... from: Bri Charb nickelfish125@yah.. We (Electrix) have done a poor job of estimating timelines for the new products. That said, we felt it was just better to say nothing rather than lead people on. The good news is that the new operating system that will be in the Repeater MK2 has been completed, tested and works great with some killer new features! The new Repeater MK2 is going through final hardware tests and we hope to be in production in the next 30 to 60 days - we are very close! As far as I'm concerned, I'll believe it when I see it. I have heard that the new OS has been completed for some time now (thanks David Rice...) though no word yet as to whether it will be released for MKI units. Stephen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:25:38 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A63183BF04; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=d83QQjBS/YBjSfRcoI2NHPsFUilcQGiCupBbN8p7uDUyz4855A/HRSUBLOgyo52S3d4h4tWPBp4pTuqarXTPvxPbPhz7H+MS59Kb3as0ITE+zZcbaZpunywQzwYl1iXc8Mee2ETn4pxGusghZ2UepYl8oTKh7NwdbW/YQLQnqeg= ; Message-ID: <20060419182529.3883.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <a2b1db96a12173e729f79d5832269a72@pfmentum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <oAYSw.A.YP.iCoREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:25:38 +0000 (UTC) I find the way this topic has gone to be really interesting. One thing I've noticed is that if you tend to be somewhat conventional in your music, the LD list is not your audience for the most part. I've been to a lot of the loopfests and it always seems like the odder stuff gets the lion's share of the attention. I think I notice it because I always wonder, "Why didn't people dig X's performance? I loved it!" Now me, I like weird odd stuff, but I'll be the first to put on a Cheap Trick album if the mood moves me. I just notice that anything that leans into pop or traditional music seems to be tossed aside in favor of someone blowing into a $6 electronic toy trumpet made of dayglow green plastic. (Hi RICK!) Art can be very hard to experience. Entertainment never is. Art can be entertaining. Entertainment can be artistic. It's a big mess. Enjoy it. I'm not saying either approach to looping is better. I just see that the things that get the most interest tend to be more "cutting edge." Be prepared to see a lot more Lidellesque stuff as looping hits the mainstream. Franky, I didn't think the video was amazing, but I loves me some good beat boxing. Hell, I hired a looping beat boxer to perform my wedding ceremony in Sept! I hope he's not too artistic for my guests. Mark --- Jeff Kaiser <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com> wrote: > Hi Andrew, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:26:20 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E8F23BF1B; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <20060419182144.14433.qmail@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: News From Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: <OF917CFC59.DDDFBFF1-ON85257155.00650F7B-85257155.00654022@ca.sunlife> From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:25:55 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/19/2006 02:26:43 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 68585F241YW1341176-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <LAKSJB.A.Ee.MDoREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Jesus Christ I'd love to say I'm not gonna get sucked back into checking that site everyday, but I will. Oh well, hopefully they will upgrade V1 Repeaters, and I'd love to get a MK II Mo Fx. Goddamn you & your perfect-for-my-purposes-boxes, Electrix. "S V G" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <vsyevolod@yahoo.com> cc: 04/19/2006 02:21 PM Subject: News From Electrix Please respond to Loopers-Delight Surprised that no-one has reposted this. Fresh from the Electrix website and RepeaterUsers group... from: Bri Charb nickelfish125@yah.. We (Electrix) have done a poor job of estimating timelines for the new products. That said, we felt it was just better to say nothing rather than lead people on. The good news is that the new operating system that will be in the Repeater MK2 has been completed, tested and works great with some killer new features! The new Repeater MK2 is going through final hardware tests and we hope to be in production in the next 30 to 60 days - we are very close! As far as I'm concerned, I'll believe it when I see it. I have heard that the new OS has been completed for some time now (thanks David Rice...) though no word yet as to whether it will be released for MKI units. Stephen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:31:06 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CA853BF02; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <44467ECD.6090601@andrew-duke.com> References: <b70afbb66949b60079833c9e0fb55e4d@charter.net> <EC0BF5BC-E03D-4250-9395-760C6C1D9680@gmail.com> <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> <a2b1db96a12173e729f79d5832269a72@pfmentum.com> <44467ECD.6090601@andrew-duke.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <755374b253152f94bfe16c4e73b8171b@pfmentum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Kaiser <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com> Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:30:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: <akIsrC.A.ev.qHoREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:31:06 +0000 (UTC) > But if you're ever travelling on the East coast of Canada > and want to get together, definitely get in touch. Thanks, Andrew. That's the mode I usually work in....travel/vacation=20 time is gig time....zero monetary expectations, only about the=20 art.....and maybe beer....and vegan food....well, whisky, too....and=20 um....cigars. that's it. I think. > Ableton Live. That is a great program...My friend Roy Carroll is doing some whacked=20 stuff with it in Berlin....are you familiar with his stuff? Glitch=20 meets beat meets experimental and very manic.....Also a lot of folks at=20= the Sparks Electronic Art and Music Festival I went to in February were=20= doing some very creative work with it as well....Live is way more=20 popular than my beloved Max/msp..... best, Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:33:27 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C9663BF1F; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ew+7KZ3IHHoYZxaQ5GHpPdtsnoJGqoBjZTmJT2fJwZXKchL8WfqZ79DcGBKWxTmcbHolMFH/ruuneZVcyuBO06lt5cvLQho9IqseDOJeHHn4hxJZNHRe5XQ7013NWOAuwbEtEsysVAaVrYPcgm1sqDeM6MM1y14sAHdacbyvfns= ; Message-ID: <20060419183325.14337.qmail@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:33:25 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: News From Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <OF917CFC59.DDDFBFF1-ON85257155.00650F7B-85257155.00654022@ca.sunlife> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <LRELX.A.S7.2JoREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the reminder to cancel my preorder with Jon at Alto music. Dispite Mr. Perry's urgings, I've stopped believing. The Repeater MK2's dead! LONG LIVE THE REPEATER! er, yeah. Also I spent my cash on a Looperlative. I'd upgrade my current box if given the choice of a mk2 machine, but wait for Electrix to release hardware... ha! --- Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Jesus Christ > > I'd love to say I'm not gonna get sucked back into > checking that site > everyday, but I will. Oh well, hopefully they will > upgrade V1 Repeaters, > and I'd love to get a MK II Mo Fx. > > Goddamn you & your perfect-for-my-purposes-boxes, > Electrix. > > > > > > > > > > > > "S V G" To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > <vsyevolod@yahoo.com> cc: > > > 04/19/2006 02:21 PM > Subject: News From Electrix > > Please respond to > > > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > > > > > > Surprised that no-one has reposted this. Fresh > from the Electrix > website and RepeaterUsers > group... > > > from: Bri Charb nickelfish125@yah.. > > We (Electrix) have done a poor job of estimating > timelines for the new products. That said, we felt > it > was just better to say nothing rather than lead > people > on. > > The good news is that the new operating system that > will be in the Repeater MK2 has been completed, > tested > and works great with some killer new features! > > The new Repeater MK2 is going through final hardware > tests and we hope to be in production in the next 30 > to 60 days - we are very close! > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, I'll believe it when I > see it. I have heard > that the new OS has > been completed for some time now (thanks David > Rice...) though no word yet > as to whether it will > be released for MKI units. > > Stephen > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) > is intended for the use > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed > and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , > confidential and exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, > you are notified that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this > communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail > message immediately. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 18:43:53 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E3F33BF0E; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jfink@cabq.gov> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <444684DF.4000304@cabq.gov> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:43:43 -0600 From: Jason Fink <jfink@cabq.gov> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Loopers-Delight Shirts References: <20060419132407.7F9CC3BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20060419132407.7F9CC3BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <CStFK.A.ndB.pToREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Allow me to chime in here... I have contacted Kim about doing another t-shirt run, and am in the process of putting together another design. Stay tuned to the list, I will try to keep everyone informed. -jas Albuquerque dimbulb.org Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > > Subject: > Kim's funny story about dimeola's edp demo > From: > daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com> > Date: > Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) > To: > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > To: > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > >Kim,i could use a funny story...maybe you could share >it sometime?i was also wondering what the status of >new loopers-delight t-shirts would or wouldnt be? not >that i can afford one,but theres always hope! !~} > you da man, > danny scary. > > > > > > > Subject: > Re: Kim's funny story about dimeola's edp demo > From: > Joey <tentaclejoe@gmail.com> > Date: > Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:59:30 -0400 > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >Anyway we can get the Feedback 100% back on the back of the t-shirt :) > >On 4/18/06, daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Kim,i could use a funny story...maybe you could share >>it sometime?i was also wondering what the status of >>new loopers-delight t-shirts would or wouldnt be? not >>that i can afford one,but theres always hope! !~} >> you da man, >> danny scary. >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 19:59:50 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04F353BF10; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <pilotcp@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XG3hnv/cHYsoHx446pajYbYp0ylLNdYxf1nC3daiyNq2z6MNkUzIEjyJo5tUO5UTyda22ysVnqjs3rNeBAOw0txUBCTA9NRvjE8gRHSHn+ghFWpVl7ziL3ov/kEXwbslqmYAttSM/y/J6xGaqSOiWiziIZKTUN2mjTG9efQC5Y0= Message-ID: <913728d60604191259p2a41c37j4788b97c95b0d8c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:59:48 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" <pilotcp@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: News From Electrix In-Reply-To: <20060419183325.14337.qmail@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <OF917CFC59.DDDFBFF1-ON85257155.00650F7B-85257155.00654022@ca.sunlife> <20060419183325.14337.qmail@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <Jm-9lC.A.8PF.1apREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:59:50 +0000 (UTC) yeah, i never had the money to afford the repeater, but i have been following the whole Mk II thing...i wonder how many people are just going to say "forget it" even when (if) it never makes it out to the public just because everyone was so sick of the way that they have been handling the MkII so far... that being said, i absolutly love my MoFX and i am bidding on the filter factory as we speak :) i love those boxes :) Charlie On 4/19/06, mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks for the reminder to cancel my preorder with Jon > at Alto music. Dispite Mr. Perry's urgings, I've > stopped believing. The Repeater MK2's dead! LONG LIVE > THE REPEATER! er, yeah. Also I spent my cash on a > Looperlative. I'd upgrade my current box if given the > choice of a mk2 machine, but wait for Electrix to > release hardware... ha! > > --- Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > > > Jesus Christ > > > > I'd love to say I'm not gonna get sucked back into > > checking that site > > everyday, but I will. Oh well, hopefully they will > > upgrade V1 Repeaters, > > and I'd love to get a MK II Mo Fx. > > > > Goddamn you & your perfect-for-my-purposes-boxes, > > Electrix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "S V G" To: > > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > <vsyevolod@yahoo.com> cc: > > > > > > 04/19/2006 02:21 PM > > Subject: News From Electrix > > > > Please respond to > > > > > > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surprised that no-one has reposted this. Fresh > > from the Electrix > > website and RepeaterUsers > > group... > > > > > > from: Bri Charb nickelfish125@yah.. > > > > We (Electrix) have done a poor job of estimating > > timelines for the new products. That said, we felt > > it > > was just better to say nothing rather than lead > > people > > on. > > > > The good news is that the new operating system that > > will be in the Repeater MK2 has been completed, > > tested > > and works great with some killer new features! > > > > The new Repeater MK2 is going through final hardware > > tests and we hope to be in production in the next 30 > > to 60 days - we are very close! > > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, I'll believe it when I > > see it. I have heard > > that the new OS has > > been completed for some time now (thanks David > > Rice...) though no word yet > > as to whether it will > > be released for MKI units. > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) > > is intended for the use > > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed > > and may contain > > information that is privileged, proprietary , > > confidential and exempt from > > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, > > you are notified that > > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this > > communication is > > strictly prohibited. If you have received this > > communication in error, > > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail > > message immediately. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 20:03:58 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E25313BF10; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <pilotcp@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QsE0ES3Tuv/CjDw8Hx/Yk2L7zqBy6WMgsYnJ1FI9W+7MQt8z2JnOMTZp3Mko9avW9KgwWVx+aBho1b56DrBTERjf0JbXQ7LgI/vkenQZgykGmTsQCEPTa0lVK9BmYGe/1NF5YBRzXgAx7XOeG+vyrFXOhldtGmJYHKESW/h6sUg= Message-ID: <913728d60604191303j3123cf3j709cb17a7dcae06@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:03:50 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" <pilotcp@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Keller Williams? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <C6H-3.A.rhF.uepREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:03:58 +0000 (UTC) I know that i am somewhat new here and he might have been talked about already, but i was just wondering what everybody thought of Keller WIlliams...I kinda like him, he in part got me interested in looping, and he appears to have some fun concerts! I will agree that his music isn't as technical as a lot of the stuff here, but he is pretty big in the jam band scene. Anybody else dig him? Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 20:09:42 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FDD53BF1A; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <david@trufun.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p06230932c06c4935bd6a@[10.0.1.3]> In-Reply-To: <913728d60604191303j3123cf3j709cb17a7dcae06@mail.gmail.com> References: <913728d60604191303j3123cf3j709cb17a7dcae06@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:09:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans <david@trufun.com> Subject: Re: Keller Williams? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <DBmlf.A._2F.FkpREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:09:42 +0000 (UTC) At 3:03 PM -0500 4/19/06, Charlie Milkey wrote: >I know that i am somewhat new here and he might have been talked about >already, but i was just wondering what everybody thought of Keller >WIlliams...I kinda like him, he in part got me interested in looping, >and he appears to have some fun concerts! I will agree that his music >isn't as technical as a lot of the stuff here, but he is pretty big in >the jam band scene. I like Keller a lot. He's very entertaining, and (viz my earlier post) I think his songwriting has evolved nicely. http://www.kellerwilliams.net -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 20:19:15 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00D573BECA; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <stillllscary@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FJh+0PYrxijoA1vKCnUc1UwC3ktv+u6V9hx/kRFf/mULkSZp4ee/EZW+X6gONkdo/hd/N2Oga9nY7wNz3CRHc3pehczLczion5v5JhVXdQRIF6KOl1p/uJuFprl2L8uG0vtlgnp4ocFlZZOG3I8AVHwGo6VNirf6OGIfXHbjJao= ; Message-ID: <20060419201913.25787.qmail@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:19:13 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com> Subject: eye of the beholder To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <TPW7DD.A.iTG.CtpREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:19:15 +0000 (UTC) in this"brave new world"of force fed media to the masses i believe there is less focus on art and freedom & a vast conspiracy to entertain the sheep into wanting to belong to the flock...why is the attention being diverted?what tricks do the media have in store for them now that they have them adjusted to the quick fix of instant gratification and disposable lifestyles?why is anything popular such tripe that it chokes the life out of anything with artistic merit?popular culture has always been the downfall of civilization...i will sit back and play my fiddle till it all burns to the dirt from where it was spawned! i love to ramble incoherently, scary visionary. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 20:21:50 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84B453BF15; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <913728d60604191303j3123cf3j709cb17a7dcae06@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Keller Williams? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: <OF3BA1D450.596EEB1E-ON85257155.006EB819-85257155.006F25EE@ca.sunlife> From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:14:02 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/19/2006 04:21:14 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 685844F81YW1384915-104-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <EY2p7.A.afG.dvpREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:21:50 +0000 (UTC) I love Keller, probably seen him about 15 times. He is really the guy who got me into looping. Well, I first learned what is was from Trey Anasastio's very rudimentary use of the Boomerang, but Keller was the first person to make me realize what could potentially be done with looping. While his looping may not be the most complex out there, he is an AMAZING guitar player, and really just such an inherently musical guy. Great vocalist & bass player too. Oh, and hand drummer. And I saw him play Martin Sexton's 'Black Sheep' on piano in Amsterdam last year. His albums don't feature very much loopinjg, but if anyone gets a chance to see him live, I highly reccomend it. "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <pilotcp@gmail.com> cc: 04/19/2006 04:03 PM Subject: Keller Williams? Please respond to Loopers-Delight I know that i am somewhat new here and he might have been talked about already, but i was just wondering what everybody thought of Keller WIlliams...I kinda like him, he in part got me interested in looping, and he appears to have some fun concerts! I will agree that his music isn't as technical as a lot of the stuff here, but he is pretty big in the jam band scene. Anybody else dig him? Charlie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 20:38:04 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47A783BEE8; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <stillllscary@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tgY/IVV7H2zuYgbVY5MRJTrlJYzMaWEzAbFP6XGOddHC8ueYN/P+pmmwrtNNs1cknU1s90WWHWQvXo/+VhnXjWrNFQLyn9Go8CZOBTQdEtT0Y1oHPnGtdob9y8mYD5EZItDqqu3hE5WZuE2CkSeDK8gcHc2ILDdgDbgoSrXpgA8= ; Message-ID: <20060419203802.68106.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:38:02 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Keller Williams? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <913728d60604191303j3123cf3j709cb17a7dcae06@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <NmpBJC.A.nNH.r-pREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:38:04 +0000 (UTC) keller is a breath of fresh air in this smog of filth we are bombarded with over the airwaves of popular culture.i really dig his finger-style and freedom of expression...he plays a mean triangle too. cheers, scary. --- Charlie Milkey <pilotcp@gmail.com> wrote: > I know that i am somewhat new here and he might have > been talked about > already, but i was just wondering what everybody > thought of Keller > WIlliams...I kinda like him, he in part got me > interested in looping, > and he appears to have some fun concerts! I will > agree that his music > isn't as technical as a lot of the stuff here, but > he is pretty big in > the jam band scene. > > Anybody else dig him? > > > Charlie > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 20:54:28 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2F7C3BF0F; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <david@trufun.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p06230935c06c52b0f624@[10.0.1.3]> In-Reply-To: <20060419203802.68106.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060419203802.68106.qmail@web37908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:49:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans <david@trufun.com> Subject: Re: Keller Williams? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <oruOg.A.M4H.EOqREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:54:28 +0000 (UTC) At 1:38 PM -0700 4/19/06, daniel stevenson wrote: >keller is a breath of fresh air in this smog of filth >we are bombarded with over the airwaves of popular >culture.i really dig his finger-style and freedom of >expression...he plays a mean triangle too. His most recent CD is a collaboration with Lerry and Jenny Keel. No looping, but some damn fine guitar playing - Larry is a killer flattop player. Keller and the Keels: GRASS -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 21:38:55 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A09803BEEC; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <hqr@cox.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Gary Lehmann" <hqr@cox.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: RE: eye of the beholder Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:38:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <20060419201913.25787.qmail@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcZj7oyq6qWIhyCEQ7aLgBG80GPg/gACw1HA Message-Id: <20060419213854.PRIY24255.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@Desktop2002> Resent-Message-ID: <YFiBX.A.-BC.v3qREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:38:55 +0000 (UTC) If it sounds good it is good. Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 22:33:15 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4210A3BEF3; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ubwVvyMIdb6IJBU2+EP7aFhh3aQ0Y2NqCWXCybJCe6A1UICLwln3LJlOifPMFQVl4U3AIlrsTnmPuDTaITi/nZ1dA1pHS2yDceaokVWX7pS6UtnDyOyXwUUKiHbIry3fdcmlc09bu3nKqau5SFkd+TabRSlPxUlZaDVfv8LkynA= ; Message-ID: <20060419223313.76645.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:33:13 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: News From Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <913728d60604191259p2a41c37j4788b97c95b0d8c7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <WkE-KC.A.VlE.qqrREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:33:15 +0000 (UTC) > > > Surprised that no-one has reposted this. > Fresh > > > from the Electrix > > > website and RepeaterUsers > > > group... I call bogus. I went to the Electrix website and there hasn't been a post from anyone from Electrix since they first announced the mk2. Not a mention of a new Repeater was found. Please don't spread hoxes. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 23:11:23 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CAC33BEF1; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <mr.subliminal@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=SBCZ5KFHqjFV5UUmJ3obnmO3UIgEpCorSl+lO4hz7zONZqXbSxCcHennShKQ5BRtH/XZgmhURE91H2yW8FpKXVNAAPhkWwwG8FUx3JTRJhTDO09r37ukVxCFMzMIKUuc26gd6WP1cpMCDZTFNHYEFudnnoWU6Bo/3k4Yi0EZz+k= Message-ID: <019e01c66406$91e0d490$2533fea9@NOVO> From: "Mr.subliminal" <mr.subliminal@gmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <20060419223313.76645.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:11:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: <fzrLVB.A.2wG.aOsREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:11:23 +0000 (UTC) It´s not a Hoax it´s in the forum - Product & Tech Support/Repeater/Electrix Certified CF Cards Available ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: Re: News From Electrix >> > > Surprised that no-one has reposted this. >> Fresh >> > > from the Electrix >> > > website and RepeaterUsers >> > > group... > > > I call bogus. I went to the Electrix website and > there hasn't been a post from anyone from Electrix > since they first announced the mk2. Not a mention of > a new Repeater was found. Please don't spread hoxes. > > Mark > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 23:16:01 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 578163BEFE; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:24:07 -0400 From: "David Kirkdorffer" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> Subject: Re: News From Electrix To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Message-id: <001501c66408$5b436fe0$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20060419223313.76645.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <VcyFZD.A.WEH.wSsREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:16:01 +0000 (UTC) If and when a Mark II Repeater emerges, I'm very sure it will find a ready audience who will buy it. The interface looks cool and stereo out of the box will appeal IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT. And let's hope Electrix can keep their expenses down so they don't go dark again this time around. :-) David ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: Re: News From Electrix > > > > Surprised that no-one has reposted this. > > Fresh > > > > from the Electrix > > > > website and RepeaterUsers > > > > group... > > > I call bogus. I went to the Electrix website and > there hasn't been a post from anyone from Electrix > since they first announced the mk2. Not a mention of > a new Repeater was found. Please don't spread hoxes. > > Mark > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 23:23:03 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C52B3BEFB; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <pilotcp@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ye/bgIO0me6z3z5tD2NuDMBXpKO9MUPlpUHOFyTEuC4bNSSgZeVp9zL/A1tA/mbyBNVkkeb+2/ZptlGFUasrF8P9m+SDQRCad7Q99SMqkhIMWRtGuEnVDFCL/wTRvAfLR772Ja7M1DpiDbjGrGUNdlnRE07IFjuFR+Xm5Ci8daM= Message-ID: <913728d60604191623o46052d63n255dc6f341890826@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:23:01 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" <pilotcp@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: News From Electrix In-Reply-To: <001501c66408$5b436fe0$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060419223313.76645.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001501c66408$5b436fe0$0affff0a@hppav> Resent-Message-ID: <hVwrPD.A.ChH.XZsREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:23:03 +0000 (UTC) i don't know forum rules regarding swearing (someone called their BS) but here is the link http://www.electrixpro.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9691/an/0/p= age/0#9691 Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 19 23:56:06 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3C793BEE0; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <sean@seanmormelo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007101c6640c$d29da610$6501a8c0@DELL> Reply-To: "Sean Mormelo" <sean@seanmormelo.com> From: "Sean Mormelo" <sean@seanmormelo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <20060419182529.3883.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:56:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: <Z_KpAB.A.qXB.V4sREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:56:05 +0000 (UTC) So, What are guys like Jamie using for video effects in a live setting? I would love to integrate even some rudementary video into my solo shows and i'm interested to see how everyone is doing it. Thanks Sean Mormelo www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie > I find the way this topic has gone to be really > interesting. One thing I've noticed is that if you > tend to be somewhat conventional in your music, the LD > list is not your audience for the most part. I've > been to a lot of the loopfests and it always seems > like the odder stuff gets the lion's share of the > attention. I think I notice it because I always > wonder, "Why didn't people dig X's performance? I > loved it!" Now me, I like weird odd stuff, but I'll > be the first to put on a Cheap Trick album if the mood > moves me. I just notice that anything that leans into > pop or traditional music seems to be tossed aside in > favor of someone blowing into a $6 electronic toy > trumpet made of dayglow green plastic. (Hi RICK!) > > Art can be very hard to experience. Entertainment > never is. Art can be entertaining. Entertainment can > be artistic. It's a big mess. Enjoy it. > > I'm not saying either approach to looping is better. > I just see that the things that get the most interest > tend to be more "cutting edge." Be prepared to see a > lot more Lidellesque stuff as looping hits the > mainstream. Franky, I didn't think the video was > amazing, but I loves me some good beat boxing. Hell, > I hired a looping beat boxer to perform my wedding > ceremony in Sept! I hope he's not too artistic for my > guests. > > Mark > > --- Jeff Kaiser <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com> wrote: > > > Hi Andrew, > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 00:03:41 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C39ED3BEDD; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6Uggns2BcFmilyiN0XWuohBg+mwrw0n94XFaa+QYby4rmhLsfetc9O3njILbfYWEFtSSCmpMWXLrSmVE8ehGZCnrFnkQHQ9upBXNLQRoU6Uw07YpO+RcLdGW4fYuGVWeHbbPPQ3v9LSTY02MWSSC7pIri8Ll/VHL14uWLNdOSuE= ; Message-ID: <20060420000340.17631.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:03:40 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <007101c6640c$d29da610$6501a8c0@DELL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <v3G1TD.A.kMC.d_sREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:03:41 +0000 (UTC) --- Sean Mormelo <sean@seanmormelo.com> wrote: > So, What are guys like Jamie using for video effects > in a live setting? Google Arkaos. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 00:13:51 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E194D3BEE7; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HhHJ4G5n56N2nW8xEPQadhpR+uGdsOFyQl2Avryq6Q+U2FlEu0QPzSnGVWjk7ftdL/TfarAaK7fXsVYosD5QZAuwID7D6/oq4OmF+LSyHjc4HXRC8j1g6xeDy5Ysr/Qu+sdkkHkDjURLNGdYvlAOn//OKvqhKZcAkanOcuhCJOg= ; Message-ID: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:13:48 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: News From Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <913728d60604191623o46052d63n255dc6f341890826@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <aj-r3D.A.syC.-ItREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:13:50 +0000 (UTC) I still call bogus. Electrix puts this on a thread called "Electrix Certified CF cards available" Not on the announcement page? Or home page? Why is Electrix "Guru" user number 1452 and in California (Electrix is in Canada) Until it's on an official press release or home page it's pretty much meaningless. Actually, until units hit retailers it's meaningless with this company. Bob Amstadt missed his ship date of the Looperlative by a few days and I'll tell you that man was a shining example of how a company/developer can interface with it's clients. His communication was great. Come to think of it, there are a few people here who've been great. Electrix is crap. I love my Repeater, but as a company they have pretty much 0 credibility. --- Charlie Milkey <pilotcp@gmail.com> wrote: > i don't know forum rules regarding swearing (someone > called their BS) > but here is the link > http://www.electrixpro.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9691/an/0/page/0#9691 > > Charlie > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 00:33:48 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDE973BEDF; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <paulrichard10@adelphia.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <028b01c66412$14582df0$d2e14744@BlackDell> From: "Paul" <paulrichard10@adelphia.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:33:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: <F-333C.A.M4D.sbtREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Man, this guy's bitter. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: Re: News From Electrix >I still call bogus. Electrix puts this on a thread > called "Electrix Certified CF cards available" Not on > the announcement page? Or home page? Why is Electrix > "Guru" user number 1452 and in California (Electrix is > in Canada) > > Until it's on an official press release or home page > it's pretty much meaningless. Actually, until units > hit retailers it's meaningless with this company. Bob > Amstadt missed his ship date of the Looperlative by a > few days and I'll tell you that man was a shining > example of how a company/developer can interface with > it's clients. His communication was great. Come to > think of it, there are a few people here who've been > great. Electrix is crap. I love my Repeater, but as > a company they have pretty much 0 credibility. > > --- Charlie Milkey <pilotcp@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i don't know forum rules regarding swearing (someone >> called their BS) >> but here is the link >> > http://www.electrixpro.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9691/an/0/page/0#9691 >> >> Charlie >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 00:40:07 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDA363BEE7; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <pilotcp@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VQ1Nq7LTcdDxSW44NcZ3V87+Cd/h9LkFgympHjSHDSlUMi7oE/tw7Ray42Q1CBJgJakgft87svp1s2Ne4a/PousG8Iu98va49upYiFjw4C1Ctk6uxejU3LdHS7Ie8/y/BqsxUSiT7k1XYgBVm4fhOrdzrZY7215IAeRP51nmprA= Message-ID: <913728d60604191740g7022a065x37d412210994c945@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:40:05 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" <pilotcp@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: News From Electrix In-Reply-To: <028b01c66412$14582df0$d2e14744@BlackDell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <028b01c66412$14582df0$d2e14744@BlackDell> Resent-Message-ID: <W026OC.A.HSE.nhtREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:40:07 +0000 (UTC) They must have seen your post here, because they have a front page update marked 4/19/06 :) I am not backing Electrix, but just in case anyone was wondering :) http://www.electrixpro.com/ On 4/19/06, Paul <paulrichard10@adelphia.net> wrote: > Man, this guy's bitter. :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark sottilaro" <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:13 PM > Subject: Re: News From Electrix > > > >I still call bogus. Electrix puts this on a thread > > called "Electrix Certified CF cards available" Not on > > the announcement page? Or home page? Why is Electrix > > "Guru" user number 1452 and in California (Electrix is > > in Canada) > > > > Until it's on an official press release or home page > > it's pretty much meaningless. Actually, until units > > hit retailers it's meaningless with this company. Bob > > Amstadt missed his ship date of the Looperlative by a > > few days and I'll tell you that man was a shining > > example of how a company/developer can interface with > > it's clients. His communication was great. Come to > > think of it, there are a few people here who've been > > great. Electrix is crap. I love my Repeater, but as > > a company they have pretty much 0 credibility. > > > > --- Charlie Milkey <pilotcp@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> i don't know forum rules regarding swearing (someone > >> called their BS) > >> but here is the link > >> > > http://www.electrixpro.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9691/an= /0/page/0#9691 > >> > >> Charlie > >> > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 00:42:08 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E5D53BEEA; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <pilotcp@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sF4H0Jf0ukJYTSmcYUbHeo1vl7p4K12S3fbjzf4IPDWdcOFRMb1WpioFwEXRQOLsysOu09wivSjKCztflkqe+n2+cFSZXUFuT+Ap4VdyLWXqHcUzETXj/KhC5vwR9yb7fNPL8HM9W4OKyGZ/kmEhoAN67vHwNEPdZSQZ75GpLUw= Message-ID: <913728d60604191742r5b997ac6nc3508484d0a4c08e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:42:07 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" <pilotcp@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video In-Reply-To: <D462A0E5-B7E6-4A30-8A01-6B95049A15CD@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060418115132.71190.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <D462A0E5-B7E6-4A30-8A01-6B95049A15CD@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <OFAzFD.A.qdE.gjtREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:42:08 +0000 (UTC) ugh! its been 3 days since this was first posted and the bandwidth is still exceeded! yikes...must be a weekly bandwitdth or even *gasp* monthly bandwidth allowence...i don't know anything about hosting...thats just a guess Charlie On 4/18/06, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > On 18 apr 2006, at 13.51, L.A. Angulo wrote: > > > hi, > > the link isnt quite working for me is there an update for it? > > cheers > > Luis > > > It's a Windows Media Video file (xxx.wmv). This means, if you are > using a Mac you need to download Micrsoft Media Player to watch it. > It could also be that the server is too weak. Right now I got this > error msg: > > > Bandwidth Limit Exceeded > > The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the > > site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later. > > Apache/1.3.34 Server at www.olsonguitars.com Port 80 > > Keep trying, it's a great video! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 00:46:21 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 579613BED8; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <913728d60604191740g7022a065x37d412210994c945@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <028b01c66412$14582df0$d2e14744@BlackDell> <913728d60604191740g7022a065x37d412210994c945@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <C815E2CF-39E7-45BB-89F0-4B77326AE5AC@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:43:06 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: <5-62YC.A.6tE.dntREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:46:21 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 19, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Charlie Milkey wrote: > They must have seen your post here, because they have a front page > update marked 4/19/06 :) That's the same message that's been there for a year. The date changes automatically. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 01:36:07 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1E0A3BEDC; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <pilotcp@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sHTJpviWBAPwouPtcb7wuABH+W/MI4pQhUsz/uI/VRCw28A/UZ5QC8ZHcXlgM/h+8A1I6CR8Z0bPaH5NwryFClxt7rpHFtUecDQs3k+xXLk8+SMWLR3CdTN2rRwoIb96s9DG/zdQK+YihqantUqC7evqC89fvWaQk5VYs3CB94A= Message-ID: <913728d60604191836t748dcaf9mfbf1cfffb72b561a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:36:05 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" <pilotcp@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: News From Electrix In-Reply-To: <C815E2CF-39E7-45BB-89F0-4B77326AE5AC@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <028b01c66412$14582df0$d2e14744@BlackDell> <913728d60604191740g7022a065x37d412210994c945@mail.gmail.com> <C815E2CF-39E7-45BB-89F0-4B77326AE5AC@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: <bRp9FD.A.sWH.GWuREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:36:06 +0000 (UTC) oh :) i guess i never noticed :) Charlie On 4/19/06, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Charlie Milkey wrote: > > > They must have seen your post here, because they have a front page > > update marked 4/19/06 :) > > That's the same message that's been there for a year. The date > changes automatically. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 01:59:41 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 442113BEE4; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <daviddurian@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OGHbzl7ckdL5FGlnNy6L3NW0NzinoHgXgz48dr5ZAi6aWJOiylDy/Rp30ByyPI/n4qEjdl8VD9N6F/7JDbXentnKWNFwBFsP++HQiJMS96n2HYU5Yi4mlKxKmRaZ+FEHRS80FgJ+fUlPrDEY3FJIWULQXsUuqmj9VR2AujY6USM= ; Message-ID: <20060420015939.21652.qmail@web33709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:59:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian <daviddurian@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: News from Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1610942670-1145498379=:21607" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <LhpmHC.A.Ny.MsuREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:59:41 +0000 (UTC) --0-1610942670-1145498379=:21607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, The link takes you to pages for ordering Pretec cards, which, folks at one point a while ago on the Yahoo Groups forum were saying actually do work on Repeaters. I believe the ones the site are selling are new versions of the industrial strength cards they had up until the end of last year (when they went out of production) that are Repeater-friendly. So maybe the posting is legit? Who knows . . . David --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-1610942670-1145498379=:21607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all,<br> <br> The link takes you to pages for ordering Pretec cards, which, folks at one point a while ago on the Yahoo Groups forum were saying actually do work on Repeaters. I believe the ones the site are selling are new versions of the industrial strength cards they had up until the end of last year (when they went out of production) that are Repeater-friendly.<br> <br> So maybe the posting is legit? Who knows . . .<br> <br> David<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <p> <hr size=1>How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39663/*http://voice.yahoo.com"> PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-1610942670-1145498379=:21607-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 02:05:07 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFDA83BEE0; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <tedkillian@charter.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,137,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="1066762827:sNHT221046374" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <a2b1db96a12173e729f79d5832269a72@pfmentum.com> References: <b70afbb66949b60079833c9e0fb55e4d@charter.net> <EC0BF5BC-E03D-4250-9395-760C6C1D9680@gmail.com> <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> <a2b1db96a12173e729f79d5832269a72@pfmentum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3111acc2a7d82241f3dead025c65eb8e@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= <tedkillian@charter.net> Subject: Re: JEFF & TED DANCE-A-THON (was: Jamie Lidell live looping movie) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:06:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: <2WCs0D.A.OJB.SxuREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, On Apr 19, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Jeff Kaiser wrote: > MAYBE Ted Killian and I will dance together at our performance at > BEMF....Ted? Well, you know me. I can't dance too much. I was raised by fundamentalists. Your lucky I can (sort of) play guitar. I still wish you'd revive your fez, shades, and bright colored blazer with all of the baby-doll heads sewn on it. The less people pay attention to me the better (IMOHO). T-Bone Guitarman Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 02:34:57 2006 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6F6A3BEDA; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <mungenast@earthlink.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=fdsnEKxRDO8gFj3DigA+0rZXNoDdksVD9H/qro7lW/FwNblWXvo1gKpkJ//C7GVK; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-22006442023527730@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" <mungenast@earthlink.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:35:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da940503abe6201ccd2f6e22c83d101657f38350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.4 Resent-Message-ID: <d2ZJEC.A.aeC.RNvREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/60188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:34:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Duncan, I concur on the RPS-10. Mine makes very meaty reverse sounds... the timbre is rich and much less "twee" than my Boss PS pedal, though I must give my VF-1 credit for copping the RPS's vibe in the "Reverse" preset. On "Elemental Guitar" you can see one clearly in MIller's rig. He was still using it, last time I asked him! ~Tim Mungenast www.myspace.com/timmungenast ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: 4/18/2006 9:06:49 AM Subject: RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16) a mere two weeks later..... & in the course of sorting out some junk/old gear, I found these two boxes again. both working, too: the RPD-10 panning delay & the RPS-10 pitch shifter, both part of boss' mid-late 80s 1/2 rack effects series. the RPD-10 has been modified- I don't remember exactly what I did, but I have slowed the master clock speed down so that the longest delay time is almost 5 seconds instead of 2. obviously, there are some artefacts, aliasing & so forth, but the boss' own filter takes care of the worst of it. the best part is that the footswitch socket on the back does indeed freeze the contents of the memory, & you can operate the footswitch to overdub stuff or erase it, depending where the feedback knob is. also, the unit has a number of fixed ranges for the delay, & you can switch amongst these to change the duration of the section being repeated without destroying the bit you can't hear. I don't (yet) know what the output is like in stereo while it's doing this. as I recall, the "panning" part worked like a tapped delay, but I don't know what it does with frozen/looping audio. anyway, I think the RPD-10 should be added to the list of looping tools. the maximum stock delay is 2 seconds. they can probably be had quite cheaply now. there's no tap-tempo or midi on these things, but for solo or glitchy work it would be fine. short loops, mind...... so I tried the same stuff with the RPS-10 (the pitch-shifter/delay) but I couldn't get the footswitch to do anything. it sounds fantastic anyway- I'd forgotten how good it was for whacky feedback noises..... but I can't make it into a looper. hmm...... the boss RDD-10, which I didn't buy, only goes up to 400mS delay, but has an LFO for delay-modulation, meaning it can serve as a chorus or a wobbly echo. presumably, way back when, I bought the RPD-10 on the basis of the longer delay times, & the RPS-10 because I wanted to pitch-shift something. duncan. -----Original Message----- From: Goddard, Duncan Sent: 03 April 2006 17:09 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16) >>and the wonderful Boss RPS-10....<< the half-rack pitch shifter? I can't remember if it was this or the similar RPD-10 (a panning delay) that, if you turned it around, had a mysterious "hold" footswitch socket in the back. which ever one it was, I have it somewhere, & have modified it to run a bit slower/grungier. I gigged it a couple of times before we got the second jam-man, & the frozen audio was glitch-tastic. must dig the bugger out again & see if it still wants to play. duncan/r.m.i. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. 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Duncan, I concur on the RPS-10. Mine makes very meaty reverse sounds... the timbre is rich and much less "twee" than my Boss PS pedal, though I must give my VF-1 credit for copping the RPS's vibe in the "Reverse" preset.
 
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a mere two weeks later..... & in the course of sorting out some junk/old gear, I found these two boxes again. both working, too: the RPD-10 panning delay & the RPS-10 pitch shifter, both part of boss' mid-late 80s 1/2 rack effects series.

the RPD-10 has been modified- I don't remember exactly what I did, but I have slowed the master clock speed down so that the longest delay time is almost 5 seconds instead of 2. obviously, there are some artefacts, aliasing & so forth, but the boss' own filter takes care of the worst of it.

the best part is that the footswitch socket on the back does indeed freeze the contents of the memory, & you can operate the footswitch to overdub stuff or erase it, depending where the feedback knob is. also, the unit has a number of fixed ranges for the delay, & you can switch amongst these to change the duration of the section being repeated without destroying the bit you can't hear.

I don't (yet) know what the output is like in stereo while it's doing this. as I recall, the "panning" part worked like a tapped delay, but I don't know what it does with frozen/looping audio.

anyway, I think the RPD-10 should be added to the list of looping tools. the maximum stock delay is 2 seconds.
they can probably be had quite cheaply now. there's no tap-tempo or midi on these things, but for solo or glitchy work it would be fine.

short loops, mind......

so I tried the same stuff with the RPS-10 (the pitch-shifter/delay) but I couldn't get the footswitch to do anything. it sounds fantastic anyway- I'd forgotten how good it was for whacky feedback noises..... but I can't make it into a looper. hmm......

the boss RDD-10, which I didn't buy, only goes up to 400mS delay, but has an LFO for delay-modulation, meaning it can serve as a chorus or a wobbly echo. presumably, way back when, I bought the RPD-10 on the basis of the longer delay times, & the RPS-10 because I wanted to pitch-shift something.

duncan.



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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: boss (WAS vintage eh16)


>>and the wonderful Boss RPS-10....<<

the half-rack pitch shifter? I can't remember if it was this or the similar RPD-10 (a panning delay) that, if you turned it around, had a mysterious "hold" footswitch socket in the back. which ever one it was, I have it somewhere, & have modified it to run a bit slower/grungier. I gigged it a couple of times before we got the second jam-man, & the frozen audio was glitch-tastic.

must dig the bugger out again & see if it still wants to play.

duncan/r.m.i.



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------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 02:47:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87ADC3BED8; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NcP5sf96KeIp6eIfJG4rrYbq2VEK48FRwYMUgen1iN3IbuqVDGqB/UTtWmfDWjCEsrN0y3hrFvjM2YMY9mVusT/TaXH7BKCGItkcFY9AtgLiHqm/9Kzp0/GEPU/VGm0S//HqKsufNxLPTGgKWcDRKf17Q8UPkI9dHrmBxJhoxM0= ; Message-ID: <20060420024721.77502.qmail@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:47:21 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V06 #343 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060420004208.DABA33BEFE@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3nJADC.A.bCD.7YvREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Re: News From Electrix Plain Text Attachment [ Download File | Save to Yahoo! Briefcase ] Mark, While I pretty much agree with most of your points here, it might interest you to know that Electrix was sold a year or two ago to someone in the LA area. This might explain a User Number of 1452 and a location of California. They hired David Rice to work on the new OS (which has been through beta testing) and is ready to be unleased. Among the various things that are corrected are the loop point bump that has been getting so much press here lately. According to Zoe (who was one of the beta testers), it also addresses the Overdub-into-Record issue. Still I have to agree with you. It ain't here until it's in my fat little hands. Stephen I still call bogus. Electrix puts this on a thread called "Electrix Certified CF cards available" Not on the announcement page? Or home page? Why is Electrix "Guru" user number 1452 and in California (Electrix is in Canada) Until it's on an official press release or home page it's pretty much meaningless. Actually, until units hit retailers it's meaningless with this company. Bob Amstadt missed his ship date of the Looperlative by a few days and I'll tell you that man was a shining example of how a company/developer can interface with it's clients. His communication was great. Come to think of it, there are a few people here who've been great. Electrix is crap. I love my Repeater, but as a company they have pretty much 0 credibility. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 03:49:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CF033BED6; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060419233113.01ca05e0@mail.wightman.ca> X-Sender: phaslem@mail.wightman.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:49:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: <2409.128.193.37.212.1145469404.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <2409.128.193.37.212.1145469404.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-66726B27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:49:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a question that has interested me for a long time. For me it seems to boil down to stage presence, I've seen people who can entertain, with songs and stories in between; then I've seen some players who don't say more than a few words in their entire set but still have a magnetism that draws the audience in and takes them along for the journey. The worst I've seen are performers who ignore their audience or in the case of a band, talk among themselves with in-jokes that once again leaves the audience out. Once again I think there is a real difference in choosing not to talk long introductions and ignoring the audience. a friend and I used to go to some shows and decided that the worst audiences were ones that were full of musicians who would sit there and say "why is he getting paid to do THAT??? I could do that..... I could do that BETTER!!!!!" I say enjoy the show, maybe you'll learn something from him that will improve your own show. In my own case the truth was that for lots of years I just didn't have the balls to get up and take the risk of playing badly in front of people.... It's one thing to perform some cool stuff at home, A totally different thing to pull it off on stage. My hats off to everyone who'll get up and do it. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca At 01:56 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote: >Per wrote: > > Why are we not talking about "showmanship" and "entertainment" that much? > >Possibly because most musicians see themselves more as artists rather than >entertainers. But at the same time they resent the success of other musicians >who are more popular because they know how to entertain. > >Cheers, >Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 04:31:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFA143BED5; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K7XRD1ZfQW80hqitE/LqLNswEG8igvgQXGWsHyxj2HphevwcHp47HZXFPBJunDLEkCh6AZkdFGxhCfZAHoR987Eci2R6ACJHg6CXeAVbvQkeWxDcFDD2MZRubddvEThZMSugU81M8Fd+b/Z2T3SoAPjTfj0caCHw7qBW1xlZYWk= Message-ID: <64b81a780604192131s436703d4n482c60e586e3ce7f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:31:11 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: List problem with Gmail In-Reply-To: <132121E0-2F62-4050-81FA-FE69C724B3B5@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <353e2ed80604190956r2328a625m9d839fa4fd826bab@mail.gmail.com> <4BF43CBA-CD07-4D22-806F-CA80396D5A8C@gmail.com> <132121E0-2F62-4050-81FA-FE69C724B3B5@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Is this a recent change? It seems I've just fallen victim to not recieving list mails I send and I don't like it. Seems to have just started happening this past weekend. Todd On 4/19/06, RP Collier wrote: > Mail you send or forward to a mailing list you subscribe to, or to an > account that forwards messages to your Gmail account, will only > appear in 'Sent Mail.' This is intended to help prevent clutter in > your inbox. If a message isn't successfully delivered, you'll receive > an error message in your inbox.>>>> > > regards > > BobC > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 05:57:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 573BF3BED2; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <018101c6643f$3f755850$0201a8c0@mini> Reply-To: "Claude Voit" From: "Claude Voit" To: References: <44466A8D.2020006@andrew-duke.com> <913728d60604191018n52e4f49dyb5a961d74c34e7e4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:57:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: <8sbwq.A.-4E.wKyREB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:57:04 +0000 (UTC) pfuu Not much poetry perhaps exiting for the very novice looping listener but I think musically its as boring as most drum solo welcome to MTV gimmic looping frustration Claude On 4/19/06, Andrew Duke wrote: > Apologies if this has already been posted: > http://www.warprecords.com/jamielidell/jamie_rfh2004_large.mov > > Got to interview him for my syndicated show a few years back and > he's a very talented (and artistic) guy. > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > http://myspace.com/andrewduke > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 06:17:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 896413BED6; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44472784.3020604@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:17:40 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Scene References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <000601c6598e$9c1bbf10$0202a8c0@Lightning> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Why are we not talking about "showmanship" and "entertainment" that > much? I think those were the dimensions of Lidells show that made me > like it even though I wasn't very keen on "the content". Lidell's show actually does not fit my taste too much, but that its art, I have no doubt about. There is expression, there is content, there is a connection to the audience. The taste would judge about the quality of content: if it broadens my horizon, opens my senses. And the quality of personal connection: if the sensation will last, or if I am bored after a while. I can't judge this out of a short video, it might show all he can deliver or only a tiny fraction... Showmanship, entertainment, virtuosity are just aids to transport the art, they surely help, but they are not essential. You could do art without those, but you need to express something. The longer you do that, the more skills you'll develop... I had the feeling the show was not just about entertaining the audience, I appreciate that. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 06:28:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA65F3BEDB; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:28:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on smtp2.ruc.dk X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: Message-ID: <44472A16.4070902@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:28:39 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamie Lidell live looping movie References: <20060420000340.17631.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060420000340.17631.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:28:47 +0000 (UTC) mark sottilaro wrote: > --- Sean Mormelo wrote: > >> So, What are guys like Jamie using for video effects >> in a live setting? > > Google Arkaos. > - ehm. Jamie Lidell uses one of the best video jockeys in the business. I'd start there ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 07:20:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0889C3BECF; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <867959693210384264cbf54397e90836@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suit & Tie Guy Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:19:57 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:20:01 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 19, 2006, at 7:13 PM, mark sottilaro wrote: > the announcement page? Or home page? Why is Electrix > "Guru" user number 1452 and in California (Electrix is > in Canada) i'm nearly certain that Electrix II: Electric Boogaloo is located in California. eh it's probably legit. do we care? this guy yanked our collective chain pretty hard and is going to have to work hard to win some people back. --- Suit & Tie Guy www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 07:51:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF7123BECD; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=bvGnJmnKCHFmWMKnMnAJixc3XQSMfGnYcPhRZKZN+PXXkevUBaSVM0Glb5vg2OfuGRgje5//o3VjA1zxFWx3iCiU6Yq9AIqlvNCVbOoWUYkMNrcF3K2fxGutKmvEQar8ojRApRagfuJA/zLsAu/dSLb5G6jH0jfuldI1RZYiL1k= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <913728d60604191742r5b997ac6nc3508484d0a4c08e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060418115132.71190.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913728d60604191742r5b997ac6nc3508484d0a4c08e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6A877F12-46C1-49A7-B4C5-E95056BAB279@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:51:50 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:51:54 +0000 (UTC) On 20 apr 2006, at 02.42, Charlie Milkey wrote: > ugh! its been 3 days since this was first posted and the bandwidth is > still exceeded! yikes...must be a weekly bandwitdth or even *gasp* > monthly bandwidth allowence...i don't know anything about > hosting...thats just a guess > > Charlie I downloaded it and have the WMV file here on my desktop. It's 16,3 MB. I'm able to send it over to anyone that has a fast internet connection, if we hook up by some chat client file transfer protocol. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 08:48:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92FD13BED6; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on smtp2.ruc.dk X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: Message-ID: <44474AC5.4020505@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:48:05 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video References: <20060418115132.71190.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913728d60604191742r5b997ac6nc3508484d0a4c08e@mail.gmail.com> <6A877F12-46C1-49A7-B4C5-E95056BAB279@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6A877F12-46C1-49A7-B4C5-E95056BAB279@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Hey Per, be a doll and stick it on video.google.com :) That way the website hopefully won't get overloaded again - people can just link to that instead. Andreas Per Boysen wrote: > On 20 apr 2006, at 02.42, Charlie Milkey wrote: > >> ugh! its been 3 days since this was first posted and the bandwidth is >> still exceeded! yikes...must be a weekly bandwitdth or even *gasp* >> monthly bandwidth allowence...i don't know anything about >> hosting...thats just a guess >> >> Charlie > > > I downloaded it and have the WMV file here on my desktop. It's 16,3 MB. > I'm able to send it over to anyone that has a fast internet connection, > if we hook up by some chat client file transfer protocol. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 08:52:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35D063BEDA; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ekM3Gtgck4+SPamLDt52HcBbzJIZ1EL/7LyJXgzKeBl77x8YjzwNqnArnhGmH7EagSLfixxhaD/UMoejMvsxy2RNzvKncd3oCOCOirXbQIXkwZPiXp0bARS3FwSleU7x7Jfb0idPn09K2q63/JU41PbU2dVGUrL238AYbDgl96U= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <44474AC5.4020505@post.cybercity.dk> References: <20060418115132.71190.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913728d60604191742r5b997ac6nc3508484d0a4c08e@mail.gmail.com> <6A877F12-46C1-49A7-B4C5-E95056BAB279@gmail.com> <44474AC5.4020505@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:52:18 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:52:22 +0000 (UTC) On 20 apr 2006, at 10.48, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: > Hey Per, be a doll and stick it on video.google.com :) That way the > website hopefully won't get overloaded again - people can just link > to that instead. > > Andreas Ok, good idea. I'll check out. Going away for a one hour meeting right now, but will fix this in two hours :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 08:59:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42BC03BEE9; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20060420085859123.1E2F1700009F@mwinf1406.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:58:58 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3NJkVD.A.WGF.U10REB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Tom Ritchford wrote: > 1. only takes SD which limits you to 2gig. More than 3 hours of recording isn't that bad, cerrtainly more than any DAT... > 2. no digital in, only digital out?!? Why would you *ever* want > digital out?!? And why would you want effects on the digital out?!? I was just thinking: why would you ever want digital in? Ok if the mixer has digital out you might want it, but if you carry big mixers.... The digital out depends on your other gear, if you don't have a computer for example which is not quite as unlikely as having a mixer with digital outs for recording your concerts (which is not the original aim of that device anyway...). Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 10:35:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92C0B3BED6; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:32:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <44476324.4050804@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:35:36 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ================================================================================ Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ================================================================================ Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Sequences electronic music magazine. The Featured CD at Midnight will be the CD from issue #30. The Vinyl Starter will be "Nada" by Peter Michael Hamel on Wergo Records and released in 1977. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/focus.html#apr Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and on the internet. WDIY now simulcasts on WXLV on 90.3 FM in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania. THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ================================================================================ My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, April 22 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh All times are EDT / GMT-4 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 11:05:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A4D73BED8; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=sp6xli7C/euTj7n9pcLMTh1EpJ0Q8L77JQ7CHPtS3jJU9TmuQWL7Jo94klIuKbqUGMwzwdsv3U81uBK2PMW2c/DyNKP2eB9mY02UvpdvV4hPHFt/HsKJbTh9u59ZNECn4/MI8xyBguDF94R880nJ2idiXh3mEE9Q9uXQWc3jAMM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <44474AC5.4020505@post.cybercity.dk> References: <20060418115132.71190.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913728d60604191742r5b997ac6nc3508484d0a4c08e@mail.gmail.com> <6A877F12-46C1-49A7-B4C5-E95056BAB279@gmail.com> <44474AC5.4020505@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0EEEA5EF-5747-4659-8813-7ED3A67A7FAF@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy video Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:05:01 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:05:04 +0000 (UTC) On 20 apr 2006, at 10.48, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: > stick it on video.google.com It's in the pipeline now. Here's the latest briefing from Google Video: > How long does the video verification take? > > Videos submitted for inclusion in Google Video must be reviewed and > pass our technical requirements and policies in order to be > verified. This process may take several days depending on the > number of submissions in our system and your video content. I guess I'll receive a mail when it's going live and then I'll notify the list. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 11:15:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E4DB3BECD; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pVW/RyXZMnN2BqZssXSDn5wtp4Sswu2FX306Ya12dadx3lGp02NkYuIAcondaPmLkHqD/1tVZzkdNYcs+l0k9CEBt+oZ3UvWVCwJNQYjfTyf8eG7fiIXkluwEOtkdM1VgzwE8VV2Yg4eNwBl1xchuKXvXqG8C8kVagbFK6aBX68= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:15:44 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders In-Reply-To: <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30562_21478290.1145531744169" References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:15:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30562_21478290.1145531744169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I recently bought an iPod with a 30 GB drive. There is a rumor saying that both Apple and Griffin are soon to release mic recording adapters for iPod. I've had two portable DAT recorders over the last fifteen(?) years but batteries wear out and products get discontinued. I'm betting on the iPod for future field recording work ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) ------=_Part_30562_21478290.1145531744169 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I recently bought an iPod with a 30 GB drive. There is a rumor saying that = both Apple and Griffin are soon to release mic recording adapters for iPod.= I've had two portable DAT recorders over the last fifteen(?) years but bat= teries wear out and products get discontinued. I'm betting on the iPod for = future field recording work  ;-)

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http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) ------=_Part_30562_21478290.1145531744169-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 12:50:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3C5D3BEC7; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4447838E.5040002@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:50:22 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Hello Per, Griffin offers the "iTalk" - seems like it features a built-in microphone _and_ a mini speaker _and_ a mic input jack. The price in Germany ist about 40 EUR. Belkin offers the "Universal microphone adapter" which features a mic input with gain-poti and a headphone output. It costs something about 30 EUR. I'm not quite sure about the sound quality; both look quite "cheap"... so I will buy the Edirol R-09 and hope its built-in microphones sound as good as the sound-demo of the R-1 on Edirol's website promises. Dirk Per Boysen wrote: > I recently bought an iPod with a 30 GB drive. There is a rumor saying > that both Apple and Griffin are soon to release mic recording adapters > for iPod. I've had two portable DAT recorders over the last fifteen(?) > years but batteries wear out and products get discontinued. I'm > betting on the iPod for future field recording work ;-) > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 12:54:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 920BD3BED8; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fHaTU1jRt/t+oG3o4Uy3B+UWePvIYw5APF95o9Lr5U+shSxELIvJFdYFBh4F2cQ9rV+BpH8w+HSyCr2q/bEdnAnAvW8L/M/PgFH2i0zwLwi06Kyo7Y/xV1sal/KbsTB3Fa3D2Ru5fQraqD/TevD5aTdWEBBcuLiwlvS7VE2Li30= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <4447838E.5040002@rhein-zeitung.de> References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> <4447838E.5040002@rhein-zeitung.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <357060E9-4AAF-4F62-B751-7167613F401B@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: solid state recorders Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:54:52 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:54:55 +0000 (UTC) On 20 apr 2006, at 14.50, Dirk Wilbert wrote: > Griffin offers the "iTalk" - seems like it features a built-in > microphone _and_ a mini speaker _and_ a mic input jack. The price > in Germany ist about 40 EUR. > Belkin offers the "Universal microphone adapter" which features a > mic input with gain-poti and a headphone output. It costs > something about 30 EUR. Thanks for the tip, but I'm not sure these devices work with the video iPod (the one with "huge" hard drive). Anyway, so far I'm dragging my powerbook with me into The Field. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 13:01:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 654A23BEE0; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:04:01 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: Music Scene In-reply-to: <6.1.0.6.2.20060419233113.01ca05e0@mail.wightman.ca> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00f901c6647a$e5382ed0$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:01:58 +0000 (UTC) > a friend and I used to go to some shows and decided that the worst > audiences were ones that were full of musicians who would sit > there and say > "why is he getting paid to do THAT??? I could do that..... I > could do that > BETTER!!!!!" I say enjoy the show, maybe you'll learn > something from him > > Paul Haslem > www.dulcify.ca I gotta agree, Paul - the "general public" tends to judge performances by whether they communicate something - many musicians seem to judge instead by the degree of technical achievement that's represented. Since my thrust tends to be more communicative rather than technical (even though when I talk about my own software, I do tend to get technical), I try not to think about how other musicians in the audience are reacting. You know the old joke about how many guitar players it takes to screw in a lightbulb? 50: 1 to change the bulb, and 49 to stand around saying, "I could do that". From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 14:01:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AED693BED8; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=HtEBZbTSffRCPHhrBFxZR4s7dTGgTQJ4wLn7Ds5HIK7BYJWoqEspbeT39KDaiJsQaasSuJQFGkpYMVwgU+2P5YGSJmb/SFCiZdaXFWzj6NFqnSxHs0O3uXhTOK6tPHNRtenvWLKza/0EJ0XjxNhYfKisEZb7x6TTOOAvdCTBFxQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604192131s436703d4n482c60e586e3ce7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <00b101c65950$59edcbd0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <7.0.0.16.0.20060409182847.01a64810@TheNettles.com> <44464947.3080908@addcom.de> <353e2ed80604190956r2328a625m9d839fa4fd826bab@mail.gmail.com> <4BF43CBA-CD07-4D22-806F-CA80396D5A8C@gmail.com> <132121E0-2F62-4050-81FA-FE69C724B3B5@gmail.com> <64b81a780604192131s436703d4n482c60e586e3ce7f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2FD52999-7E2B-479E-BC4B-68C17D4DC874@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: List problem with Gmail Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:01:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:01:43 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 19, 2006, at 9:31 PM, Todd Pafford wrote: > Is this a recent change? I only switched to gmail in mid-January but it has always been the case for me. It is nice to have verification a post goes thru but it is redundant. I'm on several lists and have not had a single email fail to make a list yet. Although the notion that one will always receive a bounce or failure notification if the email does not post seems dubious. If unsure one could bookmark the LD recent archive page to check, but there is a bit of a lag time for it to be archived. regards BobCo http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://tinyurl.com/cr25j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 15:05:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C9093BED5; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=L3Dn5+ceQyMy0ieH3+eOEaxsqYjDxUqLQLgK67rw5nqNW5fj50CB2EZMENTrCzX8QbGOLyK7UnxzyWMdJFaNr4X0HA7qZr4viTwQNHt2GohDRQzm2bw7QYXjTu5jz1B32dDZXrtimIArT/rObwL4bb0GMzeEJYvFTeEadCYR1GE= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <357060E9-4AAF-4F62-B751-7167613F401B@gmail.com> References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> <4447838E.5040002@rhein-zeitung.de> <357060E9-4AAF-4F62-B751-7167613F401B@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5926569C-C2B1-40DE-9079-A5EB0C68A962@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: solid state recorders Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:05:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:05:09 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 20, 2006, at 5:54 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 20 apr 2006, at 14.50, Dirk Wilbert wrote: > >> Griffin offers the "iTalk" - seems like it features a built-in >> microphone _and_ a mini speaker _and_ a mic input jack. The price >> in Germany ist about 40 EUR. >> Belkin offers the "Universal microphone adapter" which features a >> mic input with gain-poti and a headphone output. It costs >> something about 30 EUR. > > Thanks for the tip, but I'm not sure these devices work with the > video iPod (the one with "huge" hard drive). Anyway, so far I'm > dragging my powerbook with me into The Field. Here's something for audio recording to try on ipods, at least used ones if not shiny spanking new ones: http://ipod.hackaday.com/entry/1234000147025394/ http://ipod.hackaday.com/ Their severs seem a bit glitchy today so might need to navigate from the main page. regards BobCo http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://tinyurl.com/cr25j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 15:49:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F2313BED3; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:45:55 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: solid state recorders Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Obviously the data on the SD card is it's only digital output..... >Tom Ritchford wrote: >>1. only takes SD which limits you to 2gig. > >More than 3 hours of recording isn't that bad, cerrtainly more than any DAT... > >>2. no digital in, only digital out?!? Why would you *ever* want >>digital out?!? And why would you want effects on the digital out?!? > >I was just thinking: why would you ever want digital in? Ok if the >mixer has digital out you might want it, but if you carry big >mixers.... > >The digital out depends on your other gear, if you don't have a >computer for example which is not quite as unlikely as having a >mixer with digital outs for recording your concerts (which is not >the original aim of that device anyway...). > >Stefan > >-- > > [][] [][][] [][] [][][] >[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > Stefan Tiedje > Klanggestalter > Electronic Composition > & > Improvisation > > /~~~~~\ > \\\ /|() ()|\ > ))))) )| | |( \\\ > /// \ \_/)/ ))))) > \___/ /// > >-------------------------x---- >--_____-----------|----------- >--(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- >-- _|_)----|-----()----------- >----------()------------x----- > >14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, >94320 Thiais, France >Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 16:28:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89D403BECA; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4447B5DB.4080009@speakeasy.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:24:59 -0700 From: Dennis Montgomery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Scene References: <20060420085222.B9B5E3BEDF@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20060420085222.B9B5E3BEDF@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Reminds me of the musician series of lightbulb jokes... Q: How many guitar players does it take to change a light bulb? A: 10, 1 to change the bulb and the other 9 to stand around and say, "I could do that better" Dennis ******************************* From: paul a friend and I used to go to some shows and decided that the worst audiences were ones that were full of musicians who would sit there and say "why is he getting paid to do THAT??? I could do that..... I could do that BETTER!!!!!" I say enjoy the show, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 17:07:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65A723BED3; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:07:40 -0400 From: TonyIsYourPal@netscape.net (Tony Douglas) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Scene MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 84.64.58.122 X-AOL-Language: english Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:07:47 +0000 (UTC) I always preferred Q: How many guitar players does it take to change a light bulb ? A: 10 - 1 changes it, the other 9 discuss how Hendrix would have done it. But, for all I like U2, my favourite would have to be Q: How many members of U2 does it take to change a light bulb ? A: None really - Bono just holds the light bulb and the world turns around him. Dennis Montgomery wrote [ with a lightbulb joke ] __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 17:26:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0188F3BECF; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n/8rQuExbgItRMEGPc4kE3xx4TV8ah+loYcmq2Yn8rufyeTide9MYQxffc0naYiOICEpuhhc/zwEx9IlSscfzEuVtfRUcRS8yLp4mQpg1c5/pjCtwpsU6wdAig3RbWKVRsEkoMNs1BpzxEAonCp4BOQmsklitYW7zXBsKGZbR0o= ; Message-ID: <20060420172554.29780.qmail@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:25:54 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V06 #343 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060420024721.77502.qmail@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:26:42 +0000 (UTC) I think a lot of people here will agree that I've been a staunch supporter of the Repeater, warts and all. However, when a company treats it's user base the way Electrix has, it's hard to not be angry at them. I understand things take time, and even longer than expected, but come on. David Rice may be a nice man and a great programmer, but what do they feel they have to gain by this skattershot information they spew every now and then that turns out to be false with no explaination? A simple "Oh man, we ran into some major issues at the last moment but we're not givng up, please stand by..." would have one them major sympathy from their customer base. I hear anyone here complaining that they sold their Repeater mk1 or any other looper and now the mk2 isn't shipping as promised, I will tell them to suck it. Really, I'm going to tell everyone they're better off buying a Repeater mk1 or saving up for an edp (or pair if you must have stereo like me) or looperlative. These are things that exist in the real world. Mark --- S V G wrote: > Re: News From Electrix > > Plain Text Attachment [ Download File | Save to > Yahoo! Briefcase ] > > > Mark, > > While I pretty much agree with most of your > points here, it might interest you to know that > Electrix was sold a year or two ago to someone in > the LA area. This might explain a User Number > of 1452 and a location of California. They hired > David Rice to work on the new OS (which has been > through beta testing) and is ready to be unleased. > Among the various things that are corrected > are the loop point bump that has been getting so > much press here lately. According to Zoe (who > was one of the beta testers), it also addresses the > Overdub-into-Record issue. > > Still I have to agree with you. It ain't here > until it's in my fat little hands. > > Stephen > > > > I still call bogus. Electrix puts this on a thread > called "Electrix Certified CF cards available" Not > on > the announcement page? Or home page? Why is > Electrix > "Guru" user number 1452 and in California (Electrix > is > in Canada) > > Until it's on an official press release or home page > it's pretty much meaningless. Actually, until units > hit retailers it's meaningless with this company. > Bob > Amstadt missed his ship date of the Looperlative by > a > few days and I'll tell you that man was a shining > example of how a company/developer can interface > with > it's clients. His communication was great. Come to > think of it, there are a few people here who've been > great. Electrix is crap. I love my Repeater, but > as > a company they have pretty much 0 credibility. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 18:23:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07B2F3BEDF; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:25:06 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: Sandbox concert coming up this Sunday (NYC) In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <002701c664a7$c001fe70$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_v2/c4prT89oEd8qElUn5IA)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <3kxCw.A.iJC.KG9REB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:23:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_v2/c4prT89oEd8qElUn5IA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Everyone, Ignore this if you already have tickets or aren't in the NYC area (this means you, Tom - and thanks - I look forward to finally meeting you!). Just a reminder that Steve Rubin and I, aka The Sandbox, will be performing our unique blend of world/classical/jazz/funk/electronica at The Monkey in lower midtown Manhattan this Sunday evening at 8PM. We'll be presenting an eclectic mix, guaranteed to engage and intrigue. There will be lots of me playing acoustic and electric guitars, Steve doing finger-tapping routines on his percussion pads (and playing some acoustic drums too), and a lot of exotic textures and rhythms created by recording, altering and recirculating these things as we play. Our music ranges from simple, folk-like melodies on classical guitar, through groovin' polyrhythms, all the way to otherworldly noises organized into strange but somehow familiar patterns. Volumes will be pleasant listening volumes, not ear-pounding. The Monkey is a great, intimate listening room in Chelsea (37 W. 26th #1201, between 6th and Bway). You take an elevator up to the 12th floor, and there's a nice little room with 3 rows of seats, a nice stage, and an excellent sound system. Parking is quite easy in this neighborhood after 7PM (maybe all day Sunday, I'm not sure). We don't know when the next time we'll do something like this might be, and we could really use your support. Hope to see you there! Tickets: http://www.themonkeynyc.com/upcomingshows.htm, or call 212-481-1601 anytime. Musically yours, Warren Sirota --Boundary_(ID_v2/c4prT89oEd8qElUn5IA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Message
Hi Everyone,
 
Ignore this if you already have tickets or aren't in the NYC area (this means you, Tom - and thanks - I look forward to finally meeting you!).
 
Just a reminder that Steve Rubin and I, aka The Sandbox, will be performing our unique blend of world/classical/jazz/funk/electronica at The Monkey in lower midtown Manhattan this Sunday evening at 8PM. We'll be presenting an eclectic mix, guaranteed to engage and intrigue. There will be lots of me playing acoustic and electric guitars, Steve doing finger-tapping routines on his percussion pads (and playing some acoustic drums too), and a lot of exotic textures and rhythms created by recording, altering and recirculating these things as we play. Our music ranges from simple, folk-like melodies on classical guitar, through groovin' polyrhythms, all the way to otherworldly noises organized into strange but somehow familiar patterns. Volumes will be pleasant listening volumes, not ear-pounding.
 
The Monkey is a great, intimate listening room in Chelsea (37 W. 26th #1201, between 6th and Bway). You take an elevator up to the 12th floor, and there's a nice little room with 3 rows of seats, a nice stage, and an excellent sound system. Parking is quite easy in this neighborhood after 7PM (maybe all day Sunday, I'm not sure).
 
We don't know when the next time we'll do something like this might be, and we could really use your support. Hope to see you there!
 
Tickets:  http://www.themonkeynyc.com/upcomingshows.htm, or call 212-481-1601 anytime.
 
Musically yours,
Warren Sirota
 --Boundary_(ID_v2/c4prT89oEd8qElUn5IA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 18:38:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71B823BEE7; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2323.128.193.37.212.1145558316.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> References: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Q: How many guitar players does it take to play the blues? A: All of them, apparently. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 19:08:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43A073BEE1; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <322.29c2f7d.31793624@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:08:20 EDT Subject: looper reviews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_322.29c2f7d.31793624_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:08:32 +0000 (UTC) --part1_322.29c2f7d.31793624_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit there are 4 loopers being reviewed in this months (?) GUITAR PLAYER.....i need a new schtick, looping is becoming too popular.....:)m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_322.29c2f7d.31793624_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there are 4 loopers being reviewed in t= his months (?) GUITAR PLAYER.....i need a new schtick, looping is becoming t= oo popular.....:)m



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 --part1_322.29c2f7d.31793624_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 19:13:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C1B33BEEC; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2323.128.193.37.212.1145558316.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> <2323.128.193.37.212.1145558316.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:10:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:13:15 +0000 (UTC) At 11:38 AM -0700 4/20/06, johnsrude@peak.org wrote: >Q: How many guitar players does it take to play the blues? > >A: All of them, apparently. Ha! How many record producers does it take to change a light bulb? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 19:29:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD6C43BEE8; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [84.9.57.57] X-Originating-Email: [simeonharris@hotmail.com] X-Sender: simeonharris@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> From: "simeon harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: jokes Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:29:16 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2006 19:29:19.0537 (UTC) FILETIME=[B847C210:01C664B0] Resent-Message-ID: <3bmvXD.A.-RF.QE-REB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:29:21 +0000 (UTC) this is my favourite... you're driving along and you see a really great guitar player and a drummer crossing the road... which one do you run over? the guitar player of course... business before pleasure! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 19:44:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D4513BEF7; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004f01c664b2$bfa78160$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> From: "David O'Heare" To: References: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> <2323.128.193.37.212.1145558316.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:43:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:44:02 +0000 (UTC) From: "David Gans" > How many record producers does it take to change a light bulb? > I don't know, David. How many record producers *DOES* it take to change a light bulb? Dave O'Heare oheareATmagmaDOTca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 19:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C647C3BF04; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> <2323.128.193.37.212.1145558316.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-33--248022195 Message-Id: <57600bf50d36d36ba2d63894b134776c@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:55:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:55:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-33--248022195 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > How many record producers does it take to change a light bulb? And the correct answer is, "I don't know... what do you think?" richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > --Apple-Mail-33--248022195 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII How many record producers does it take to change a light bulb? And the correct answer is, "I don't know... what do you think?" Gadgetrichard sales 7372,7F7E,C5C4glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C2,9695,1C1B www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com --Apple-Mail-33--248022195-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 20:11:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0323D3BF05; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <57600bf50d36d36ba2d63894b134776c@glasswing.com> References: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> <2323.128.193.37.212.1145558316.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <57600bf50d36d36ba2d63894b134776c@glasswing.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:08:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:11:06 +0000 (UTC) At 12:55 PM -0700 4/20/06, Richard Sales wrote: >>How many record producers does it take to change a light bulb? > >And the correct answer is, "I don't know... what do you think?" Yup! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 20:11:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E37F3BF06; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yX41jnkXcpOPifJBbTK3/He3obOgv45i20lBhCjH77ofxxeGW6lSYCYIzBqMgj+M1LEXkl+xA5W6YyJiXeOhYg1SIFwF1EH5PknphgiJpsIphV7IDO1UqRQX2pIXXv4HV6Y7BHgu36T+wkuJEbSGZYtEVOYxKB2QmhrEUAC/r0M= ; Message-ID: <20060420200957.2739.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:09:57 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: looper reviews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <322.29c2f7d.31793624@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Oh it's main stream all right. A few minutes ago the receptionist where I work described some live looping she saw on J. Leno. I guess it was K. T. Tunstall. I checked her video out on iTunes and she is indeed live looping with something... not sure what. Not my style of music but seemingly of good quality. While our little secret world crumbles, a world where more loopers exist for us to choose from begins. I say it's a positive thing. Guitars have gotten quite popular these days too, and I don't have a problem with that either. Mark --- Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > there are 4 loopers being reviewed in this months > (?) GUITAR PLAYER.....i > need a new schtick, looping is becoming too > popular.....:)m > > > > www.ct-collective.com > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 20:11:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12E313BF12; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAFuFR0SIXSw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060420210714.02c6f140@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:11:26 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re:Re: solid state recorders In-Reply-To: <20060420192922.62C223BEFA@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060420192922.62C223BEFA@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:11:38 +0000 (UTC) >I was just thinking: why would you ever want digital in? Ok if the >mixer has digital out you might want it, but if you carry big mixers.... or if you have a mic pre with digital out and want to make a location recording. or just a really good A/D converter. either way, suddenly you have a top quality recorder, (as well as a neat portable) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 20:33:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B1193BEF0; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FiZDxG4Oc2utmi+MRNzsdlBCl62c8aRgau/jzKXlhNIMt5LzOJU2nEpOMEJhR9ZqxY5TS5/fdT/yi8k3QxJh092AoagPJ2iSPAvSNpEcm2QuvX+vAnn1K7KxGQpxJnLE+UiVdA9MyMHqd+882CUKOaRHc9j5cRcfHtGnzO10GRM= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604201333q467effa8v49aff01de38680d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:33:32 +0100 From: "David Morton" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looper reviews In-Reply-To: <20060420200957.2739.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <322.29c2f7d.31793624@aol.com> <20060420200957.2739.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) On 4/20/06, mark sottilaro wrote: > Oh it's main stream all right. A few minutes ago the > receptionist where I work described some live looping > she saw on J. Leno. I guess it was K. T. Tunstall. I > checked her video out on iTunes and she is indeed live > looping with something... not sure what. Akai Headrush. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 20:34:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2C953BF04; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=chJKpLKlqKwYKqjPY0/PNyCoHTpK61pQwaF1h+qx1g1IrD8GmxtRgtzgdwVbMC3U+rG3Ygqq4RMqi6KxmZ7aIAyDPnHvcCx4jO13PVtkdSrsgyFTX3kXTFnP33ZwVvOyQIbywJcWp7CyvdsTBkl4LnvNwrypnnA30yvWfkPsfBQ= ; Message-ID: <20060420203402.49869.qmail@web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:34:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: looper reviews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <322.29c2f7d.31793624@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <4NUOZB.A.kc.7A_REB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Which 4? -t- --- Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > there are 4 loopers being reviewed in this months > (?) GUITAR PLAYER... 'Rantai' CD: 'Mesh' CD: Chain Tape Collective: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 20:36:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 948453BEFC; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=CFF1evsicqIIsD9zcgIoGrN0lPC9IEoXZ/y4FAC1T094vPMaC7vvXT3BsIcAS3RnXj65wuMzCT/7yqz+UgrxLorZqtcEhtPrV0gykM0tgN1yqv7NFAqMQgviaecl6tpIPyY8bwnyD0KPHOr+foGsBXLnQ6hDVZ70PX2pi9hJrxo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060420200957.2739.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060420200957.2739.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: . T. Tunstall (was Re: looper reviews) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:36:35 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:36:38 +0000 (UTC) On 20 apr 2006, at 22.09, mark sottilaro wrote: > I guess it was K. T. Tunstall. I > checked her video out on iTunes and she is indeed live > looping with something... Didn't we discuss her on this list two years ago? She was looping vocals/acoustic guitar even back then, if my memory serves me right. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 20:46:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E56983BF02; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=d6xyHtzUMbz8dqJnp4Y4dmEqQ6qB/EGRmITTJqhMPdvVvQca3w9RDYkvaVT7xAGhaLeKflPHKC5D0eRwKhb8uFKT+9GbTKfYFtEt4w6vEU4eMPmmkj6NvhxBmSMbfj7BcTdE/ogKEM8tW1GKFpQWoxdMlwSj12dHxCwEtgEXgn8= ; Message-ID: <20060420204629.91337.qmail@web30004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:46:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: . T. Tunstall (was Re: looper reviews) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:46:33 +0000 (UTC) It was about a year and a half ago. She had appeared on a BBC programme (Jools Holland, maybe?) and there was much conjecture on the list about what she was looping with, so I wrote an email to what I thought was her management. KT answered it herself about 20 minutes later (2nd generation Akai Headrush) and I forwarded it to the list. -t- --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 20 apr 2006, at 22.09, mark sottilaro wrote: > > > I guess it was K. T. Tunstall. I > > checked her video out on iTunes and she is indeed > live > > looping with something... > > > Didn't we discuss her on this list two years ago? > She was looping > vocals/acoustic guitar even back then, if my memory > serves me right. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > 'Rantai' CD: 'Mesh' CD: Chain Tape Collective: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 21:06:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5754D3BEFB; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <33f.33971f9.317951d2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:06:26 EDT Subject: Re: looper reviews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_33f.33971f9.317951d2_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:06:32 +0000 (UTC) --part1_33f.33971f9.317951d2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/20/06 4:34:15 PM, psychle62@yahoo.com writes: > Which 4? > well boy tim, let me run downstairs (2 flights) and find out for ya!.....here i go www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_33f.33971f9.317951d2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/20/06 4:34:15 PM, psychle62@yahoo.com writes:


Which 4?


well boy tim, let me run downstairs (2 flights) and find out for ya!.....= here i go



www.ct-collective.com
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 --part1_33f.33971f9.317951d2_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 21:09:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 888E03BF05; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=toFF2pQoe+rHALHapFs5XEY5t/goLFWHdLkSNgGYYcVd0CQ+AfqiNM0X+mbZd7Rs5qwDcbLb1vsHLIIj1cctS4373MkCtN63qGYlZgpQfdExZQfwM8MOc5AkAYte7P9ah3GHc9pvnwJouDkxPrCrgoWam+4tFQY/7v7aYTwo+Z8= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:09:12 -0500 From: "Jon Southwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:09:13 +0000 (UTC) On 4/20/06, Tony Douglas wrote: > Q: How many guitar players does it take to change a light bulb ? > A: 10 - 1 changes it, the other 9 discuss how Hendrix would have done it. Around these parts it'd be: A: 10 - 1 changes it, the 7 discuss how Fripp would have done it and 2 to discuss how Fripp yelled at them when they asked him how he would have done it. Cheers, Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 21:11:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C7353BF08; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <379.1265396.317952ea@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:11:06 EDT Subject: Re: looper reviews (pedals) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_379.1265396.317952ea_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <7vdJLD.A.XnC.0j_REB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:11:16 +0000 (UTC) --part1_379.1265396.317952ea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/20/06 5:06:52 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: > Which 4? > i'm back! blackline engineering "RIFFBOX" BOOMERANG and BOOMERANG+ DIGITECH JAMMAN ELECTRO-HARMONIX 2880 SUPER MULTI-TRACK LOOPER www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_379.1265396.317952ea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/20/06 5:06:52 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com writes:


Which 4?

i'm back!
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DIGITECH JAMMAN
ELECTRO-HARMONIX 2880 SUPER MULTI-TRACK LOOPER




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 --part1_379.1265396.317952ea_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 21:14:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10FD63BF18; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3c5.a5a6d9.317953a0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:14:08 EDT Subject: Re: looper reviews (pedals) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3c5.a5a6d9.317953a0_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:14:16 +0000 (UTC) --part1_3c5.a5a6d9.317953a0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wow stano.....imagine if you could have used these boxes whilst reviewing da axes of "evil".....you would own GUITAR PLAYER!.....:)m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_3c5.a5a6d9.317953a0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow stano.....imagine if you could have= used these boxes whilst reviewing da axes of "evil".....you would own GUITA= R PLAYER!.....:)m



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 --part1_3c5.a5a6d9.317953a0_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 22:00:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B4A53BF13; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Sbmd9V9w7e9Npbjy8lvhoCH0NwoeteEIlhL+GjDK6j6CGzZOff5/3DF+xYpvNloNqICNUuclB0edlYe6B0uc2FeE4rmMpBxvEnceqBENEHSOZ00Yr4NKQ6dpkDODGJ2/qcGwa0FEyEu82LccKyLFi9k19W/ewkbUl/YPJcmpE3A= Message-ID: <64b81a780604201500l66fcd870g8f79ca0b7c0d8d62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:00:30 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Scene In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <2DBBDDC4.18B2EE5E.59DF470E@netscape.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Don't forget the one that chimes in that Fripp didn't invent the lightbulb, Eno did. And the two or three that are so sick of hearing about Fripp that they're willing to live in the dark. :) Todd On 4/20/06, Jon Southwood wrote: > On 4/20/06, Tony Douglas wrote: > > Q: How many guitar players does it take to change a light bulb ? > > A: 10 - 1 changes it, the other 9 discuss how Hendrix would have done i= t. > > Around these parts it'd be: > > A: 10 - 1 changes it, the 7 discuss how Fripp would have done it and 2 > to discuss how Fripp yelled at them when they asked him how he would > have done it. > > Cheers, > > Jon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 22:12:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3254D3BF17; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44480674.10600@speakeasy.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:08:52 -0700 From: Dennis Montgomery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) References: <20060420192922.6FE393BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20060420192922.6FE393BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4bTEu.A.plF.EdASEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Q: How many drummers does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Only one, but he'll break 10 bulbs before he realizes they don't just push in. Q: How many singers does it take? A: Can't do it, the altitude is too much stress on the vocal cords. Q: How many keyboard players does it take? A: You don't really need a light bulb, I have a sampler over here that can do the same thing and next month there's a new additive subtractive synth but it'll cost about... Q: How many bass players does it take? A: Who cares? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 22:20:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88F923BF1C; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=maTlP8LiK8nwC79vSdzD66QLUESbldjuBbT5O3e7B3IrDfAuHVAFcN/8jeGKTFSmEsS4ZR9BR06PY4vpVOsNKomOvVy2RWAZeOwS2yNaeFCMTMgWPIzqFZOYMXwLa8AWMjFGs1IG0sm6OU4fO38gwWhI0/wPB0OGTm2sqrYJXz4= Message-ID: <64b81a780604201520i14385e92h8b886d1729237d2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:20:46 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) In-Reply-To: <44480674.10600@speakeasy.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060420192922.6FE393BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> <44480674.10600@speakeasy.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Reminds me of another one... Q: What do you call the guy that hangs around the band? A: The bass player. Gentle, gentle....I kid cause of I love. :) Todd On 4/20/06, Dennis Montgomery wrote: > Q: How many bass players does it take? > A: Who cares? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 22:31:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84A813BF23; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <092201c664ca$299cef80$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Cc: Subject: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:31:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_091C_01C66497.DE44FBE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-SpamDetect: *: 1.545000 NakedCR=0.2,Uses non-standard port number for HTTP=1.3 X-NakedCr: Body contained naked cr characters X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 539, in=290049, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <33yg_C.A.2fG.EvASEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:31:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_091C_01C66497.DE44FBE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_091D_01C66497.DE44FBE0" ------=_NextPart_001_091D_01C66497.DE44FBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all - Rainer Straschill and I are planning to stream a live performance to the = internet this coming Sunday. Here are the details: DATE: Sunday, April 23 TIME: 12pm US Mountain Time, 11am US Pacific Standard Time, 1pm US = Central Time, 2pm US Eastern Standard Time, 6pm Greenwich Mean Time = (GMT), 7pm UTC time (London) URL: http://krispen.kicks-ass.net:9030/ (Click on "Listen") - iTunes, = Windows Media Player, or Winamp work fine GROUP CHAT: http://moinlabs.byto.de/etchat/index.php (so you can provide = real time, collaborative feedback on the performance!) =20 Hope to see you on line! Kris ************************************************* Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm Looper's Delight Playlist - = http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u ------=_NextPart_001_091D_01C66497.DE44FBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all -

Rainer = Straschill and I are=20 planning to stream a live performance to the internet this coming = Sunday. Here=20 are the details:

DATE: Sunday, April=20 23
TIME: 12pm US Mountain Time, 11am US Pacific = Standard=20 Time, 1pm US Central Time, 2pm US Eastern Standard Time, 6pm Greenwich = Mean Time=20 (GMT), 7pm UTC time (London)
URL: http://krispen.kicks-ass.net:9030/=20 (Click on "Listen") - iTunes, Windows Media Player, or Winamp work=20 fine
GROUP CHAT: http://moinlabs.byto.de= /etchat/index.php (so=20 you can provide real time, collaborative feedback on the=20 performance!)

 
 
Hope to see you on line!
 
Kris

*************************************************Krispen=20 Hartung / Improvisational Guitar
www.krispenhartung.com /=20 www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
info@krispenhartung.com / = 1.208.724.5603=20
Discography - = http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm
Looper's=20 Delight Playlist -=20 http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u
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arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 563293BF32; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:36:30 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01C664DB.A2540AB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-reply-to: <092201c664ca$299cef80$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Thread-Index: AcZkyiyJgrz3Z/O7QCipcGAEboYbPwAABXlw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:36:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C664DB.A2540AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let me add to this one: 1. there is an uniform address of: moinlabs.de/kybermusik for your direct access to background info, group chat and web stream, so you don't need to remember more than one address! 2. the server has 30 listener slots, so make sure not to come too late. 3. the performance will be done using Ninjam 4. please drop by, and be sure to join the chat and say hello! Thanks for your time, Rainer _____ Von: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 21. April 2006 00:31 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: khartung@cableone.net Betreff: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill Hello all - Rainer Straschill and I are planning to stream a live performance to the internet this coming Sunday. Here are the details: DATE: Sunday, April 23 TIME: 12pm US Mountain Time, 11am US Pacific Standard Time, 1pm US Central Time, 2pm US Eastern Standard Time, 6pm Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), 7pm UTC time (London) URL: http://krispen.kicks-ass.net:9030/ (Click on "Listen") - iTunes, Windows Media Player, or Winamp work fine GROUP CHAT: http://moinlabs.byto.de/etchat/index.php (so you can provide real time, collaborative feedback on the performance!) ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C664DB.A2540AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Let me add to this one:
 
1. there is an uniform address = of:
 
        moinlabs.de/kybermusik
 
for your direct access to background info, = group chat=20 and web stream, so you don't need to remember more than one=20 address!
 
2. the server has 30 listener slots, so make = sure not=20 to come too late.
 
3. the = performance=20 will be done using Ninjam
 
4. = please drop by,=20 and be sure to join the chat and say hello!
 
Thanks = for your=20 time,
 
       &nbs= p;   =20 Rainer

Von: Krispen Hartung=20 [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
Gesendet: Freitag, 21. April = 2006=20 00:31
An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc:=20 khartung@cableone.net
Betreff: Live Internet Performance on = April 23=20 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill

Hello all -

Rainer = Straschill and I=20 are planning to stream a live performance to the internet this coming = Sunday.=20 Here are the details:

DATE: Sunday, April=20 23
TIME: 12pm US Mountain Time, 11am US Pacific = Standard=20 Time, 1pm US Central Time, 2pm US Eastern Standard Time, 6pm Greenwich = Mean=20 Time (GMT), 7pm UTC time (London)
URL: = http://krispen.kicks-ass.net:9030/=20 (Click on "Listen") - iTunes, Windows Media Player, or Winamp work=20 fine
GROUP CHAT: http://moinlabs.byto.de= /etchat/index.php (so=20 you can provide real time, collaborative feedback on the=20 performance!)
------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C664DB.A2540AB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 22:40:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DDB33BF3C; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:40:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0971_01C66499.25AC4AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-SpamDetect: **: 2.545000 Suspicious tags-to-text ratio=1.2,Uses non-standard port number for HTTP=1.3 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 536, in=276765, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:40:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0971_01C66499.25AC4AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool page, Rainer! Do you think we need one more computer? We should be = sponsored by Intel. Kris Let me add to this one: 1. there is an uniform address of: moinlabs.de/kybermusik for your direct access to background info, group chat and web stream, = so you don't need to remember more than one address! 2. the server has 30 listener slots, so make sure not to come too = late. 3. the performance will be done using Ninjam 4. please drop by, and be sure to join the chat and say hello! Thanks for your time, Rainer -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Von: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Gesendet: Freitag, 21. April 2006 00:31 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: khartung@cableone.net Betreff: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & = Rainer Straschill Hello all - Rainer Straschill and I are planning to stream a live performance to = the internet this coming Sunday. Here are the details: DATE: Sunday, April 23 TIME: 12pm US Mountain Time, 11am US Pacific Standard Time, 1pm US = Central Time, 2pm US Eastern Standard Time, 6pm Greenwich Mean Time = (GMT), 7pm UTC time (London) URL: http://krispen.kicks-ass.net:9030/ (Click on "Listen") - = iTunes, Windows Media Player, or Winamp work fine GROUP CHAT: http://moinlabs.byto.de/etchat/index.php (so you can = provide real time, collaborative feedback on the performance!) ------=_NextPart_000_0971_01C66499.25AC4AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cool page, Rainer! Do you think we need = one more=20 computer? We should be sponsored by Intel.
 
Kris

Let me add to this one:
 
1. there is an uniform address=20 of:
 
        = moinlabs.de/kybermusik
 
for your direct access to background info, = group chat=20 and web stream, so you don't need to remember more than one=20 address!
 
2. the server has 30 listener slots, so = make sure not=20 to come too late.
 
3. = the performance=20 will be done using Ninjam
 
4. = please drop by,=20 and be sure to join the chat and say hello!
 
Thanks for your=20 time,
 
       &nbs= p;   =20 Rainer

Von: Krispen Hartung=20 [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
Gesendet: Freitag, 21. = April 2006=20 00:31
An: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc:=20 khartung@cableone.net
Betreff: Live Internet Performance = on April=20 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill

Hello all -

Rainer = Straschill and I=20 are planning to stream a live performance to the internet this = coming=20 Sunday. Here are the details:

DATE: Sunday, = April=20 23
TIME: 12pm US Mountain Time, 11am US Pacific = Standard=20 Time, 1pm US Central Time, 2pm US Eastern Standard Time, 6pm = Greenwich Mean=20 Time (GMT), 7pm UTC time (London)
URL: = http://krispen.kicks-ass.net:9030/=20 (Click on "Listen") - iTunes, Windows Media Player, or Winamp work=20 fine
GROUP CHAT: http://moinlabs.byto.de= /etchat/index.php (so=20 you can provide real time, collaborative feedback on the=20 = performance!)
= ------=_NextPart_000_0971_01C66499.25AC4AA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 22:51:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4433F3BF1C; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:59:40 -0400 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: Repeater II - What's the right price for this device? To: Message-id: <000801c664ce$1b46c060$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <028b01c66412$14582df0$d2e14744@BlackDell> <913728d60604191740g7022a065x37d412210994c945@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Good. They've updated their webpage. It's good to know we can make a difference. Now, I'm curious about the price. As a group of people we -- the readers of Loopers-Delight -- know more about Looping tools than yer average musician. We know what's out there and we know what it can do. And we also know what things cost. >From that standpoint, I want to ask the group this question: **What do you feel is the "right price" for the anticipated Electrix Repeater II?** From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 22:51:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10B2E3BF34; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4448108C.8000604@pdq.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:51:56 -0500 From: Doug Cox User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) References: <20060420192922.6FE393BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> <44480674.10600@speakeasy.net> <64b81a780604201520i14385e92h8b886d1729237d2a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604201520i14385e92h8b886d1729237d2a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:51:53 +0000 (UTC) What's the difference between a drummer and a large pizza? A large pizza can feed a family How do you know when the drum riser is level? The drool comes out of both sides of the drummer's mouth :) Todd Pafford wrote: > Reminds me of another one... > > Q: What do you call the guy that hangs around the band? > A: The bass player. > > Gentle, gentle....I kid cause of I love. :) > Todd > > On 4/20/06, Dennis Montgomery wrote: > >> Q: How many bass players does it take? >> A: Who cares? >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 22:59:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEA303BEC5; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20060420225949520.0CA9F5C00082@mwinf3113.me.freeserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--236939693 Message-Id: <8549F8C6-AD2D-40B2-9A74-CCF567846969@mac.com> From: Simon Le Geyt Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:59:44 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:59:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11--236939693 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On 20 Apr 2006, at 01:13, mark sottilaro wrote: > I still call bogus. Electrix puts this on a thread > called "Electrix Certified CF cards available" Not on > the announcement page? Or home page? Why is Electrix > "Guru" user number 1452 and in California (Electrix is > in Canada) If you follow the links to the CF cards you get to Pro Sound, presumably a legit company, whose advertising copy for the cards talks quite specifically about their joint testing (with Electrix) of these cards for Repeater and Repeater Mk2 PRETEC CFH256LR 256MB CF FOR ELECTRIX REPEATER This 256MB Compact Flash Memory card by Elecrix was built to work specifically, but not limited to, the Repeater and Repeater MK2 Loop Based Recorders. These high quality Compact Flash Cards can also be used with other audio gear requring Compact Flash as well as digital cameras. Tested by Electrix engineers to ensure full functionality with Repeater and Repeater MK2 Features Hitachi controller interface required by Repeater and Repeater MK2 Robust bandwidth and high speed card will accommodate simultaneous record/playback of 6 streaming channels (2 in and 4 out) simon le geyt --Apple-Mail-11--236939693 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 20 Apr = 2006, at 01:13, mark sottilaro wrote:

I still call bogus.=A0 Electrix puts this on a = thread
called "Electrix Certified CF = cards available"=A0 Not = on
the announcement page?=A0 Or home page?=A0 Why is Electrix
"Guru" user number 1452 and in California (Electrix = is
in Canada)


If you follow the links to = the CF cards you get to Pro Sound, presumably a legit company, whose = advertising copy for the cards talks quite specifically about their = joint testing (with Electrix) of these cards for Repeater and=A0Repeater = Mk2

PRETEC CFH256LR 256MB CF FOR ELECTRIX = REPEATER=A0

This 256MB Compact = Flash Memory card by Elecrix was built to work specifically, but not = limited to, the Repeater and Repeater MK2 Loop Based Recorders. These = high quality Compact Flash Cards can also be used with other audio gear = requring Compact Flash as well as digital = cameras.

  • Tested by Electrix = engineers to ensure full functionality with Repeater and Repeater = MK2
  • Features Hitachi controller interface = required by Repeater and Repeater MK2
  • Robust bandwidth and high speed card will accommodate = simultaneous record/playback of 6 streaming channels (2 in and 4 = out)
simon le = geyt
= --Apple-Mail-11--236939693-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 23:24:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B28393BF1F; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008a01c664d1$883d0280$5346fea9@ws1> From: "Carabee Computer Solutions" To: References: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8549F8C6-AD2D-40B2-9A74-CCF567846969@mac.com> Subject: Keaggy video up Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:24:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0085_01C664AF.FBB16840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new .250 at suscom.net X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C664AF.FBB16840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If = I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for that. If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and order the "Live = from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army Band on this DVD is = absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real treat. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never = plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they = recorded the "Live from Phillie" show. Brian ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C664AF.FBB16840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy = video is up on=20 video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for=20 that.
 
If you want a real treat, go to = Keaggy's website=20 and order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army = Band on=20 this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real=20 treat.
 
I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. = One thing's=20 for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on = his game=20 when they recorded the "Live from Phillie" show.
 
Brian
------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C664AF.FBB16840-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 23:28:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3ED13BF05; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: musician jokes (was: Keaggy video up) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:28:13 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <006601c664d2$184913f0$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-reply-to: <008a01c664d1$883d0280$5346fea9@ws1> Thread-Index: AcZk0ZGUgL6vU49MTL6HPR784yuX6gAAFyjw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:28:20 +0000 (UTC) > I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they recorded the > "Live from Phillie" show. contrary to a jazzman who, according to Bill Evans, is a guy who never plays the same thing once... Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 23:37:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09FCF3BF02; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Bill Edmondson" To: Subject: RE: Keaggy video up Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:37:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01C664B1.EBB207E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <008a01c664d1$883d0280$5346fea9@ws1> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 thread-index: AcZk0ZGUoq1Ws47lSqeLE30b1NrvnQAAckfA Message-Id: <20060420233752.857563BEFB@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:37:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C664B1.EBB207E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do most of the tunes on that dvd involve looping? _____ From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Keaggy video up I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for that. If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army Band on this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real treat. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they recorded the "Live from Phillie" show. Brian ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C664B1.EBB207E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Do most of the tunes on that dvd = involve looping?

 

From: = Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, = 2006 7:24 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Keaggy video = up

 

I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for = that.

 

If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and = order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army = Band on this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real = treat.

 

I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his = game when they recorded the "Live from Phillie" = show.

 

Brian

------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C664B1.EBB207E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 23:41:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 801D73BF16; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001b01c664d3$fccc1cb0$5346fea9@ws1> From: "Carabee Computer Solutions" To: References: <20060420233752.857563BEFB@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Keaggy video up Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:41:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C664B2.74AA9350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at suscom.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:41:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C664B2.74AA9350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up looks at his = technique, too. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Edmondson=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: RE: Keaggy video up Do most of the tunes on that dvd involve looping? =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Keaggy video up =20 I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. = If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for that. =20 If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and order the "Live = from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army Band on this DVD is = absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real treat. =20 I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never = plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they = recorded the "Live from Phillie" show. =20 Brian ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C664B2.74AA9350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Every single track involves looping. = Lots of=20 close-up looks at his technique, too.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill=20 Edmondson
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 = 7:37=20 PM
Subject: RE: Keaggy video = up

Do most of = the tunes=20 on that dvd involve looping?

 

From: Carabee=20 Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 = 7:24=20 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject: Keaggy video=20 up

 

I just noticed that the = Phill=20 Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have = Per to=20 thank for that.

 

If you want a real = treat, go to=20 Keaggy's website and order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition = of=20 Salvation Army Band on this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole = concert=20 is a real treat.

 

I just saw him a couple = of weeks=20 ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. = He=20 really was on his game when they recorded the "Live from Phillie"=20 show.

 

Brian

= ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C664B2.74AA9350-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 20 23:48:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C2BF3BF2C; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dahs1jYGiEXyTsVy1PuJeprZkZBRXPcy4Vl/TfCQVQbmTPELYsB3bTUPTG6kZPtEZOuqwXa6N5qXO5a9gfkFNwxVpT/rVlbWpJh7il99zjf1/iCNETGSNXXrHjQIZKnaN0qhmZiVxMOEMp1SggzDkPrSU3vz12e27lklxCUV6+w= Message-ID: <913728d60604201648t718948dv223e59ba423728d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:48:01 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Keaggy video up In-Reply-To: <001b01c664d3$fccc1cb0$5346fea9@ws1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060420233752.857563BEFB@arsenic.violacea.com> <001b01c664d3$fccc1cb0$5346fea9@ws1> Resent-Message-ID: <2jkPs.A.36C.z2BSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:48:04 +0000 (UTC) wow! that is a great video! Thanks Per (or whoever put it up :) ) Charlie On 4/20/06, Carabee Computer Solutions wrote: > > Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up looks at his > technique, too. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Edmondson > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM > Subject: RE: Keaggy video up > > > > > Do most of the tunes on that dvd involve looping? > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:24 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Keaggy video up > > > > > I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If = I'm > not mistaken, we have Per to thank for that. > > > > > > If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and order the "Live from > Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army Band on this DVD is absolut= ely > spectacular. The whole concert is a real treat. > > > > > > I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never pla= ys > a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they recorded t= he > "Live from Phillie" show. > > > > > > Brian > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 00:21:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B245A3BF2D; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:21:50 -0400 From: TonyIsYourPal@netscape.net (Tony Douglas) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <60F3AD91.632496A7.59DF470E@netscape.net> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 84.64.58.122 X-AOL-Language: english Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:21:56 +0000 (UTC) My final shots ('cos the rest of the ones I know are too rude for public consumption) - Q: What's the difference between a drummer and a drum machine ? A: You only punch things into the drum machine once. and finally, to insult the rest of the band at once, Q: What do you get if you cross a musician and a drummer ? A: A bass player. Boom, and furthermore, boom. - Tony Doug Cox wrote: [ with some more musician jokes ] __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 00:42:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AEF53BF2E; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <000801c664ce$1b46c060$0affff0a@hppav> References: <20060420001348.15478.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <028b01c66412$14582df0$d2e14744@BlackDell> <913728d60604191740g7022a065x37d412210994c945@mail.gmail.com> <000801c664ce$1b46c060$0affff0a@hppav> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8BFC0FB0-11A3-4785-9C4A-DC6311EFB0D0@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: Repeater II - What's the right price for this device? Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:38:46 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3EvMZD.A.XdF.tpCSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:42:22 +0000 (UTC) > > From that standpoint, I want to ask the group this question: > **What do you > feel is the "right price" for the anticipated Electrix Repeater II?** I'm pretty sure when I ordered mine it was $449. Something like that. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 00:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DD753BF27; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44482C7E.3090106@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:51:10 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Keaggy video up References: <20060420233752.857563BEFB@arsenic.violacea.com> <001b01c664d3$fccc1cb0$5346fea9@ws1> <913728d60604201648t718948dv223e59ba423728d6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <913728d60604201648t718948dv223e59ba423728d6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:51:13 +0000 (UTC) thanks for this - it's just great. Dirk > wow! > that is a great video! > > Thanks Per (or whoever put it up :) ) > > Charlie > > On 4/20/06, Carabee Computer Solutions wrote: > >> Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up looks at his >> technique, too. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Bill Edmondson >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM >> Subject: RE: Keaggy video up >> >> >> >> >> Do most of the tunes on that dvd involve looping? >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net] >> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:24 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Keaggy video up >> >> >> >> >> I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm >> not mistaken, we have Per to thank for that. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and order the "Live from >> Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army Band on this DVD is absolutely >> spectacular. The whole concert is a real treat. >> >> >> >> >> >> I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays >> a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they recorded the >> "Live from Phillie" show. >> >> >> >> >> >> Brian >> >> > > > . > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 01:01:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 488783BED2; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1728.128.193.37.212.1145581303.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <60F3AD91.632496A7.59DF470E@netscape.net> References: <60F3AD91.632496A7.59DF470E@netscape.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Q: How many bass players does it take to change a light bulb? A: One, but nobody notices. But if he doesn't change it everybody wonders why it's dark. (My main instrument is guitar.) As a group, bass players tend to be the most sensible members of the band. They show up on time, they play with good time (often better than the drummers) and they tend to have the extra batteries, fuses and cables that the lead guitarist forgot to bring again. When I was learning bass, one of my favourite mailing lists used to be "The Bottom Line". It was by and large filled with sensible folks without major ego problems. Ask Steve Lawson about it, I think he's a major contributor. I have known flaky bass players but they are hugely outnumbered by all the flaky guitarists, keyboardists, vocalists and drummers I've known over the years. I would suspect that this list is mainly composed of guitarists and I'm a guitarist so with that in mind: Q: How do you make a guitarist play quieter? A: Put sheet music in front of him. Q: How you do you make him stop? A: Put notes on it. Q: What do you call two guitarists playing in unison? A: Counterpoint. Q: How can you tell that a guitarist is at your front door? A: The knocking gets louder and faster and louder and faster and he still doesn't know when to come in. Q: What do guitarists use for contraception? A: Their personalities. Q: What's a good thing to play on a guitar? A: Solitaire Finally: Q: How many loopers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: One. But he'll screw it in until he screws it up. Q: What do you get when you play New Age music backwards? A: New Age music. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 01:32:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B41AF3BEF1; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Bill Edmondson" To: Subject: RE: Keaggy video up Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:32:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C664C1.E4F86E70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <001b01c664d3$fccc1cb0$5346fea9@ws1> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 thread-index: AcZk0/13YPqvNUxORpGuWWsIWCbXfgAD2IPw Message-Id: <20060421013213.9A2803BEC2@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:32:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C664C1.E4F86E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I placed the order. Thanks! _____ From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Keaggy video up Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up looks at his technique, too. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Edmondson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: RE: Keaggy video up Do most of the tunes on that dvd involve looping? _____ From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Keaggy video up I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for that. If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army Band on this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real treat. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they recorded the "Live from Phillie" show. Brian ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C664C1.E4F86E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I placed the order. = Thanks!

 

From: = Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, = 2006 7:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Keaggy video = up

 

Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up = looks at his technique, too.

 

----- Original Message ----- =

Sent: = Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM

Subject: RE: = Keaggy video up

 

Do most of the tunes on that dvd = involve looping?

 

From: = Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, = 2006 7:24 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject: Keaggy video = up

 

I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for = that.

 

If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and = order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army = Band on this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real = treat.

 

I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his = game when they recorded the "Live from Phillie" = show.

 

Brian

------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C664C1.E4F86E70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 01:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BEB93BED9; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YioO7zSoL6EZ+ca4IkmCBvyY4JNxd5skXAZjUtBQGw+S4AVgRPRy+ioReUf+cB6erXdf8C3azihwCHBKHLFla4fsaiCn/pDRHO1meIps1RLblfz4viHJ9RToy+ViLzasAD1kD93C1L2SDObH2623l1tk58MRoLUrSpJYJVSKm0Q= ; Message-ID: <20060421015749.32663.qmail@web33801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:57:49 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1728.128.193.37.212.1145581303.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2027953254-1145584669=:31160" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:57:51 +0000 (UTC) --0-2027953254-1145584669=:31160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Did you hear about the drummer that became so despondant over his bad timing that he threw himself behind a train? ted harms. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-2027953254-1145584669=:31160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Did you hear about the drummer that became so despondant over his bad timing that he threw himself behind a train?
 
 
ted harms.

Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-2027953254-1145584669=:31160-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 02:33:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 287473BEDA; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [69.157.61.91] X-Originating-Email: [graham.maureen@sympatico.ca] X-Sender: graham.maureen@sympatico.ca In-Reply-To: <8549F8C6-AD2D-40B2-9A74-CCF567846969@mac.com> From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:33:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2006 02:33:30.0878 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA7631E0:01C664EB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:33:33 +0000 (UTC) I don't know much about it, but IVL did sell the electrix line to company based in california...that part makes sense Graham >From: Simon Le Geyt >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: News From Electrix >Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:59:44 +0100 > > >On 20 Apr 2006, at 01:13, mark sottilaro wrote: > >>I still call bogus. Electrix puts this on a thread >>called "Electrix Certified CF cards available" Not on >>the announcement page? Or home page? Why is Electrix >>"Guru" user number 1452 and in California (Electrix is >>in Canada) > > >If you follow the links to the CF cards you get to Pro Sound, presumably a >legit company, whose advertising copy for the cards talks quite >specifically about their joint testing (with Electrix) of these cards for >Repeater and Repeater Mk2 > >PRETEC CFH256LR 256MB CF FOR ELECTRIX REPEATER >This 256MB Compact Flash Memory card by Elecrix was built to work >specifically, but not limited to, the Repeater and Repeater MK2 Loop Based >Recorders. These high quality Compact Flash Cards can also be used with >other audio gear requring Compact Flash as well as digital cameras. > >Tested by Electrix engineers to ensure full functionality with Repeater >and Repeater MK2 >Features Hitachi controller interface required by Repeater and Repeater >MK2 >Robust bandwidth and high speed card will accommodate simultaneous >record/playback of 6 streaming channels (2 in and 4 out) >simon le geyt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 02:50:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 789473BED2; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001b01c664ee$5eac9300$5346fea9@ws1> From: "Carabee Computer Solutions" To: References: <20060421013213.9A2803BEC2@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Keaggy video up Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:50:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C664CC.D688BFB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new .250 at suscom.net X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:50:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C664CC.D688BFB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You will NOT be sorry. The entire performance is absolutely spectacular. Brian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Edmondson=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: RE: Keaggy video up I placed the order. Thanks! =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Keaggy video up =20 Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up looks at his = technique, too. =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Edmondson=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: RE: Keaggy video up =20 Do most of the tunes on that dvd involve looping? ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C664CC.D688BFB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You will NOT be sorry. The entire = performance is=20 absolutely spectacular.
 
Brian
 

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From:=20 Bill=20 Edmondson
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 = 9:32=20 PM
Subject: RE: Keaggy video = up

I placed = the order.=20 Thanks!

 

From: Carabee=20 Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 = 7:42=20 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject: Re: Keaggy video=20 up

 

Every single track = involves=20 looping. Lots of close-up looks at his technique,=20 too.

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Bill=20 Edmondson

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent:=20 Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM

Subject: RE:=20 Keaggy video up

 

Do most = of the=20 tunes on that dvd involve=20 looping?

------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C664CC.D688BFB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 03:17:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D890C3BED8; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0a6b01c664f2$12888d40$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Lexicon LXP5 and MidiQuest Programming Software on eBay Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:17:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 538, in=280895, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:17:11 +0000 (UTC) I've reduced the buy now price on this now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7407819726&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 03:35:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 792C73BEDA; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060420233315.01c50268@mail.wightman.ca> X-Sender: phaslem@mail.wightman.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:35:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) In-Reply-To: <1728.128.193.37.212.1145581303.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <60F3AD91.632496A7.59DF470E@netscape.net> <1728.128.193.37.212.1145581303.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED5C6E Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:35:50 +0000 (UTC) > >Finally: > >Q: How many loopers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? >A: One. But he'll screw it in until he screws it up. I thought maybe none.... it wouldn't get changed because everytime he reached the top of the ladder he got looped back to the bottom. >Cheers, >Kevin >www.TheNettles.com Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 05:01:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BF3B3BEDA; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060420215849.01bbd838@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:00:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20060420233315.01c50268@mail.wightman.ca> References: <60F3AD91.632496A7.59DF470E@netscape.net> <1728.128.193.37.212.1145581303.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <6.1.0.6.2.20060420233315.01c50268@mail.wightman.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:01:12 +0000 (UTC) >Q: How many loopers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: None. He's waiting for Electrix to release a new bulb. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 05:02:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAEB33BECF; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=221FHgpWw0HGfNiZGQZVaB2IgFuzliB4ovrelzJfcZGX9h+6w3K3cT1NdKJKVnm3Vx3FkOeQjkxSVZxk91zRtXiz5cKbzkaldvXDU18Pt0GKxQNdJjTdL+ySO9bhPV17a0z0mvxHrCJ80vpDNZlby0baP7ihOCIhY/HdA7R+qMI= ; Message-ID: <20060421050219.96695.qmail@web31812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:02:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: Re: Keaggy video up To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <008a01c664d1$883d0280$5346fea9@ws1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2113988837-1145595739=:95476" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:02:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-2113988837-1145595739=:95476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Oh yeah a huge influence on me in my beginning days, I had the opportunity to see him at Cornerstone festival in Bushnell Illinois. As many years as I have been performing now I still have not been able to quite grasp what he did back then live. It was quite incredible to say the least. It was almost like he led with chords very quickly and efficiently and they melded into the music forming something very unique and special. May health, peace, prosperity and joy be with you and yours!! Happy jammin!!! Sincerely, Daniel T. Albertini , Albertiniguitarworks expert repair and custom designed handmade instruments to go!!!!! Carabee Computer Solutions wrote: I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for that. If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army Band on this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real treat. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they recorded the "Live from Phillie" show. Brian --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-2113988837-1145595739=:95476 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Oh yeah a huge influence on me in my beginning days, I had the opportunity to see him at Cornerstone festival in Bushnell Illinois.  As many years as I have been performing now I still have not been able to quite grasp what he did back then live.  It was quite incredible to say the least.  It was almost like he led with chords very quickly and efficiently and they melded into the music forming something very unique and special.  May health, peace, prosperity and joy be with you and yours!!  Happy jammin!!! 
Sincerely, Daniel T. Albertini , Albertiniguitarworks expert repair and custom designed handmade instruments to go!!!!!

Carabee Computer Solutions <compguy@suscom.net> wrote:
I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for that.
 
If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army Band on this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real treat.
 
I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they recorded the "Live from Phillie" show.
 
Brian

Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-2113988837-1145595739=:95476-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 05:28:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1FB13BED9; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Message-Id: <1e63eb4af6c405533e7ce85db9cfd4f4@gis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Sullivan Subject: LAMBIC This Friday (today) at Barbes--Early 7 PM show--looping content Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:28:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec794dc13b11690cf8d8a6cf06bfd6df96c8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.215.143.67 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi, everyone, a reminder about our gig at Barbes in Park slope, Brooklyn, a great neighborhood bar that also has one of the best music scenes in New York. This show is an early one, 7 pm to 8 pm on Friday, April 21st, so all of you who couldn't make our later shows, this one is for you. Since it's our first time playing here, we'd like to get a good turnout, so PLEASE come, and bring friends! Barbes is 376 9th Street at the corner of 6th avenue in Park Slope, Brooklyn. And there is much loopage from both members of the band. From our myspace page http://myspace.com/lambic - Lambic is a style of Belgian ale that is spontaneously fermented from wild yeasts. Lambic is also a band featuring Paul Sullivan on guitars and effects, and Stephen Moses on drums, trombone, and effects. Lambic is spontaneously fermented music, free improvisation with a groove. For more info: call 718 965-9177 or go to www.barbesbrooklyn.com Thanks, hope to see you there & please come up and say Hi if you came because of this announcement. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 05:53:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C0313BED8; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=NUevvG3SReu1okXwT3t3PCKlh4qsQPuuZIxdLyBHjiodGVkzB/zXPcldty7n1OD3AxOkB1T+Khq90vOMgL9NHNNrKS84zRjnsQO2irkIFs+ZKo1UiuIjysptSLsnVblncqKlXdGhHnpBtVIyfEGl9lYgjXN4lt8qC2hxEzhBHYY= In-Reply-To: <092201c664ca$299cef80$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <092201c664ca$299cef80$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <925F29A3-AC53-4B97-A194-14F98AECEDC6@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:53:30 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:53:35 +0000 (UTC) On 21 apr 2006, at 00.31, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Hello all - > > Rainer Straschill and I are planning to stream a live performance > to the internet this coming Sunday. Will it be recorded and posted as a downloadable file or podcast, so busy time-shift junkies like me get a chance to listen? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 06:01:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3533A3BED6; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ZIN0jpAxmQHZnbGI5GPp+AQdG608GWYN+OJMNMoeOhvKSBC+ZYKyI6szyEs7sNEURsXG1PHlAQieJB7iwqDEhdqPAtDBWXyK7EggvtO2ljCTCteq5OR9V+JYkQEFVILQhMibOvv3fKAIJK/4ish9s1RqCecqZJi0O2xyQJlN3Es= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <913728d60604201648t718948dv223e59ba423728d6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060420233752.857563BEFB@arsenic.violacea.com> <001b01c664d3$fccc1cb0$5346fea9@ws1> <913728d60604201648t718948dv223e59ba423728d6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1BA671CB-51A0-4659-8310-A797B1F30861@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Keaggy video up Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:01:28 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:01:32 +0000 (UTC) On 21 apr 2006, at 01.48, Charlie Milkey wrote: > wow! > that is a great video! > > Thanks Per (or whoever put it up :) ) Well, it was me who posted it but the idea came from Andreas: On 20 apr 2006, at 10.48, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: > Hey Per, be a doll and stick it on video.google.com :) That way the > website hopefully won't get overloaded again - people can just link > to that instead. > > Andreas Thank you, Andreas, for telling me about Video Google. I never thought it was that easy to post a dense video file on the internet :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 06:54:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6B203BEDF; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <20060420024721.77502.qmail@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060420024721.77502.qmail@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2d20adae4ac6d98c4ce82e26abf32673@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suit & Tie Guy Subject: electrix boogaloo beta testing Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:54:11 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:54:13 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 19, 2006, at 9:47 PM, S V G wrote: > are the loop point bump that has been getting so much press here > lately. According to Zoe (who > was one of the beta testers), it also addresses the > Overdub-into-Record issue. so this isn't all just a cruel joke then? --- Suit & Tie Guy www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 07:54:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92ED73BEE6; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on smtp2.ruc.dk X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: Message-ID: <44488F9B.5000001@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:54:03 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill References: <092201c664ca$299cef80$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <925F29A3-AC53-4B97-A194-14F98AECEDC6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925F29A3-AC53-4B97-A194-14F98AECEDC6@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9XJEZC.A.LlD.j-ISEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On 21 apr 2006, at 00.31, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Hello all - >> >> Rainer Straschill and I are planning to stream a live performance to >> the internet this coming Sunday. > > > Will it be recorded and posted as a downloadable file or podcast, so > busy time-shift junkies like me get a chance to listen? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen Plus one! I'd love to hear it, but the time is right in the middle of tuckin' in the young'un! Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 07:55:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C5C13BEF0; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on smtp2.ruc.dk X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: Message-ID: <44489004.9030403@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:55:48 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Keaggy video up References: <20060420233752.857563BEFB@arsenic.violacea.com> <001b01c664d3$fccc1cb0$5346fea9@ws1> <913728d60604201648t718948dv223e59ba423728d6@mail.gmail.com> <1BA671CB-51A0-4659-8310-A797B1F30861@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1BA671CB-51A0-4659-8310-A797B1F30861@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Thank you, Andreas, for telling me about Video Google. I never thought > it was that easy to post a dense video file on the internet :-) > Yeah - the future is here - TODAY! ;) One great thing is that there's apparently a player, that can load in a website, so you'll basically be offloading bandwidth to google. Also YouTube.com is beginning to have some interesting video now... just not enough looping! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 09:09:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7C693BEE8; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=EFsLvs/8Q/84elmTfGlVBoQbKl2+IkvszUE6hGyDQBj20R7wpcGRKpA32tlYoOQ9r10V5rT6v8OFAK1aZ1ikAjXCVQSUR/Q5tDbGLUxsxDhR8UvC8OYHj4Wr7GTFMy3VglK9G6aKcRmrAhkF8ZLc1xJbfPtTs3E2RIJiXIM824o= In-Reply-To: <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Any guitarrist here using a Fathead? Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:09:44 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:09:49 +0000 (UTC) http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Pa020.htm I heard it gives better sustain and overtone twang to less distorted guitar work. Anyone know about the guy in Carlifornia that made them ("Aspen & Associates" in Sylmar)? This original plate I found second hand at an Italian store's web site. I guess the best way to check this out would be to make a paper template of the headstock front and go to some brass/steel lab and have them drill it for you. I'm just wondering what it would sound like to mount a Sustaniac on that brass headstock plate? ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 09:11:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C6EB3BEE4; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:11:37 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <002a01c66523$983cf3f0$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <925F29A3-AC53-4B97-A194-14F98AECEDC6@gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcZlB+4SwXunOb0BRqebXat6vF7W0gAG2JLA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:11:44 +0000 (UTC) I plan to record this (and I'm sure Kris will do so, too) and make it available for download. And for all the people who have followed the Ninjam/webstream jamming discussion (also with Mark Sottilaro and me), if both of us make it available, you can compare both versions, because they will be different = due to the time shift thing... Rainer > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20 > Gesendet: Freitag, 21. April 2006 07:53 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen=20 > Hartung & Rainer Straschill >=20 > On 21 apr 2006, at 00.31, Krispen Hartung wrote: >=20 > > Hello all - > > > > Rainer Straschill and I are planning to stream a live=20 > performance to=20 > > the internet this coming Sunday. >=20 >=20 > Will it be recorded and posted as a downloadable file or podcast, so =20 > busy time-shift junkies like me get a chance to listen? >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 10:05:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9F053BEEC; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000801c6652b$0760eeb0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> Subject: Not Just the Fathead... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:04:48 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Interesting contraption, one wonders what it would sound like with either an e-Bow or a [vintage musical swell] the Gizmo...! I'd be curious to see if when someone puts a Fathead on their guitar, they publish some sound files comparing the before and after... But THIS had me wondering when I could get to Italy, and caused an emergency drooling situation: http://www.hendrixguitars.com/InfoStore.htm Woof! [panting] Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 11:06:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A8CC3BEF4; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [85.210.144.165] X-Originating-Email: [gardunne@hotmail.com] X-Sender: gardunne@hotmail.com From: "gary dunne" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: keaggy video Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:06:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2006 11:06:34.0532 (UTC) FILETIME=[A6F30640:01C66533] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:06:36 +0000 (UTC) there's some really nice stuff there. he's got a lovely balance between the various loops, great dynamics in the arrangements. i want to order the dvd for uk use, seems to only be region 1 available or am i missing something? cheers gary www.garydunne.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 11:10:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD85A3BEF9; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=SoBB8t5DQQe8tYcaluH1/XMvTdAgOj1y6Sz/315ZprL2qhkwQ3B45kVqgSeogFGAGw89pjeJM2rI8n7zPLfFwutVrI+qr7nAPTW+KyGvfDOJYTKcT9AXADovwNDcZMGlsDkvENJPnsr1oFT4c+PpF18uj0u0V5RIj4sz/DT3BV0= In-Reply-To: <000801c6652b$0760eeb0$0207a8c0@eluk1> References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> <000801c6652b$0760eeb0$0207a8c0@eluk1> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <258868CB-6618-4695-A2E6-9340A544F756@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Not Just the Fathead... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:10:42 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:10:46 +0000 (UTC) On 21 apr 2006, at 12.04, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Interesting contraption, one wonders what it would sound like with > either an e-Bow or a [vintage musical swell] the Gizmo...! Does the electromagnetic e-Bow string induction depend on mechanical headstock response? > I'd be curious to see if when someone puts a Fathead on their > guitar, they publish some sound files comparing the before and > after... Yes, it would be interesting with an A/B test ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 12:44:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA1E73BED8; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001301c66541$4de041e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> <000801c6652b$0760eeb0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <258868CB-6618-4695-A2E6-9340A544F756@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Not Just the Fathead... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:44:16 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: <5JgASD.A.aOF.uONSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:44:30 +0000 (UTC) From: "Per Boysen" > > On 21 apr 2006, at 12.04, Stephen Goodman wrote: > >> Interesting contraption, one wonders what it would sound like with >> either an e-Bow or a [vintage musical swell] the Gizmo...! > > Does the electromagnetic e-Bow string induction depend on mechanical > headstock response? Well, I've found that some acoustic guitars just won't resonate so much, though my experience is limited. I remember a Farrington that a friend had once on a gig, he borrowed my e-Bow and couldn't make it do nuthin audibly. For some reason the Oscar Schmidt acoustic I've got sings like a mo-fo with e-Bow... so I am inclined to think, YES there is a physical relationship between e-Bow use and the ability of a guitar to resonate. Damn, wish I had the money to experiment with THAT: One acoustic-electric, e-Bow and a Fathead. Hmm.. >> I'd be curious to see if when someone puts a Fathead on their guitar, >> they publish some sound files comparing the before and after... > > Yes, it would be interesting with an A/B test ;-) Those on the list about to pursue this inspired line of experimentation are therefore required to report to us all! :) (off for now, I've got the final parts for my new PCs! Let the building commence! Details later.) Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 12:49:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AA1F3BECF; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mnvIREOPDB8caTu+RsCl1pmqo1Hv+vXsctMjtht9I70Z40+Vea3LwC1IGvkg/7SYJoVsHbk42GummIxw+3OtyHr9KGS5x9Xqxenq49n+Ewre9HblSDWB/opAliV3jRlI8Ksd8sNpAzbiWulI318gpRaUk2LKho4UsPjqgjwBnZ0= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604210549g1488217eh1ef3b6268b4f4fd3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:49:08 +0100 From: "David Morton" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Not Just the Fathead... In-Reply-To: <001301c66541$4de041e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> <000801c6652b$0760eeb0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <258868CB-6618-4695-A2E6-9340A544F756@gmail.com> <001301c66541$4de041e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:49:11 +0000 (UTC) On 4/21/06, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Well, I've found that some acoustic guitars just won't resonate so much, > though my experience is limited. I remember a Farrington that a friend h= ad > once on a gig, he borrowed my e-Bow and couldn't make it do nuthin audibl= y. That can happen with PB or Bronze-wound strings because the eBow only acts significantly on the steel core, not on the winding, With nickel-wound it acts on both core and winding. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 12:54:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2316F3BED8; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iIwyhm9rfWyIb+bS4Ju0xakCXiNs5nhFpqQg7W84GcvanKUz+wsul4oaePiEQXxHZwCua/CnNWzzLBx44TEsYobAIiYOsQ7VBkJ8iVEPE0YW4Zj8z5mA2m4teJKY5kPnYa17WY0+SxnKJDTNRzRhLTybr3j7S2EG1v6Ja9tAM4Q= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604210554i7e1a962idc9113ad7343096a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:54:34 +0100 From: "David Morton" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any guitarrist here using a Fathead? In-Reply-To: <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:54:36 +0000 (UTC) On 4/21/06, Per Boysen wrote: > I'm just wondering what it would sound like to mount a Sustaniac on > that brass headstock plate? ;-) One side of the Sustainiac headstock transducer's clamp is a metal plate, the other has a hard rubber pad. So when it's clamped on a standard wooden headstock you have one wood/metal joint and one metal/rubber/wood one. Maybe it'd make a little difference to the Sustainiac/guitar coupling if you clamped the hard rubber pad side to the Fathead, but I'm betting the change would be small. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 13:42:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6619B3BED8; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <001301c66541$4de041e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> <000801c6652b$0760eeb0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <258868CB-6618-4695-A2E6-9340A544F756@gmail.com> <001301c66541$4de041e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--183993061 Message-Id: <0de6653bd151f8f6e67765d4f79309b8@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Not Just the Fathead... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:42:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:42:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--183993061 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 21-Apr-06, at 5:44 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >> On 21 apr 2006, at 12.04, Stephen Goodman wrote: >> > Damn, wish I had the money to experiment with THAT: One > acoustic-electric, e-Bow and a Fathead. Hmm.. > >>> I'd be curious to see if when someone puts a Fathead on their >>> guitar, they publish some sound files comparing the before and >>> after... Okay! I use an ebow on most all of my acoustics. It's all about finding the resonant place to hold it. Some respond better than others, but all will sing if tickled in the right place. BUT! What's a Fathead? Are you talking about the amp? richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com >> --Apple-Mail-1--183993061 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII On 21-Apr-06, at 5:44 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: On 21 apr 2006, at 12.04, Stephen Goodman wrote: Damn, wish I had the money to experiment with THAT: One acoustic-electric, e-Bow and a Fathead. Hmm.. I'd be curious to see if when someone puts a Fathead on their guitar, they publish some sound files comparing the before and after... Okay! I use an ebow on most all of my acoustics. It's all about finding the resonant place to hold it. Some respond better than others, but all will sing if tickled in the right place. BUT! What's a Fathead? Are you talking about the amp? Gadgetrichard sales 7372,7F7E,C5C4glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C2,9695,1C1B www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com --Apple-Mail-1--183993061-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 13:56:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A07513BEE6; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0aed01c6654b$67ce3e40$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <002a01c66523$983cf3f0$0101a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:56:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 537, in=277079, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Yup, I'll be recording directly to my m-audio solid state recorder. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 3:11 AM Subject: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill I plan to record this (and I'm sure Kris will do so, too) and make it available for download. And for all the people who have followed the Ninjam/webstream jamming discussion (also with Mark Sottilaro and me), if both of us make it available, you can compare both versions, because they will be different due to the time shift thing... Rainer > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Freitag, 21. April 2006 07:53 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen > Hartung & Rainer Straschill > > On 21 apr 2006, at 00.31, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > Hello all - > > > > Rainer Straschill and I are planning to stream a live > performance to > > the internet this coming Sunday. > > > Will it be recorded and posted as a downloadable file or podcast, so > busy time-shift junkies like me get a chance to listen? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 13:57:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 951763BED9; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) In-Reply-To: <2d20adae4ac6d98c4ce82e26abf32673@suitandtieguy.com> References: <20060420024721.77502.qmail@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2d20adae4ac6d98c4ce82e26abf32673@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: electrix boogaloo beta testing Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:57:34 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) X-Server-Quench: b8b9224b-d13e-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:57:11 +0000 (UTC) I'm not sure it my NDA is still active, which is why I've refrained from mentioning it all this time!! Hope everyone will understand... ...but yes, Overdub into Record was one of the features. However it's been a year already since I tried it. It wasn't ready for prime time though and I reverted to the old, stable, OS for touring. Since then I've endured 2 logic board failures on my 2005 Powerbook (!!) and as a result, have lost the test OS! You can't imagine how upset I was at the idea that Electrix was gone and I'd never see the new version again... So this "new" news makes me really, really happy!! I'm still in the process of switching to the Looperlative though... On Apr 21, 2006, at 7:54 AM, Suit & Tie Guy wrote: > On Apr 19, 2006, at 9:47 PM, S V G wrote: > >> are the loop point bump that has been getting so much press here >> lately. According to Zoe (who >> was one of the beta testers), it also addresses the Overdub-into- >> Record issue. >> > > so this isn't all just a cruel joke then? > > --- > Suit & Tie Guy > www.suitandtieguy.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 13:57:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 740863BEF4; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--183100290 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Sustainiac and Fathead Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:57:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:57:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--183100290 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed David Sylvian told me about Michael Brook's Infinite Sustain setup. Anyone know anything about this? David didn't know the actual technology. Sounds like the Sustainiac. Or an ebow on all 6 strings. It sounds REALLY cool. Clean but sustained - kind of like a pedal steel on steroids. I wish there was some way to have an ebow without having to hold it with my right hand. Also, Pers' photo answered my question about the Fathead! Luthiers could probably answer your questions about peg head weight and density. I do know there's a huge difference between slotted peg heads and regular. Beyond the sound, there's the consideration of balance of the guitar. I would bet the brass nut would give you close to the same effect as the fat head. I once owned a Travis Bean with a metal neck. All I can say is that on a cold day it was a bear to play... but on warm days it sounded great. I sold it because I didn't live in Arizona. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 21-Apr-06, at 2:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Pa020.htm > > I heard it gives better sustain and overtone twang to less distorted > guitar work. Anyone know about the guy in Carlifornia that made them > ("Aspen & Associates" in Sylmar)? This original plate I found second > hand at an Italian store's web site. I guess the best way to check > this out would be to make a paper template of the headstock front and > go to some brass/steel lab and have them drill it for you. > > I'm just wondering what it would sound like to mount a Sustaniac on > that brass headstock plate? ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > --Apple-Mail-3--183100290 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII David Sylvian told me about Michael Brook's Infinite Sustain setup. Anyone know anything about this? David didn't know the actual technology. Sounds like the Sustainiac. Or an ebow on all 6 strings. It sounds REALLY cool. Clean but sustained - kind of like a pedal steel on steroids. I wish there was some way to have an ebow without having to hold it with my right hand. Also, Pers' photo answered my question about the Fathead! Luthiers could probably answer your questions about peg head weight and density. I do know there's a huge difference between slotted peg heads and regular. Beyond the sound, there's the consideration of balance of the guitar. I would bet the brass nut would give you close to the same effect as the fat head. I once owned a Travis Bean with a metal neck. All I can say is that on a cold day it was a bear to play... but on warm days it sounded great. I sold it because I didn't live in Arizona. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 21-Apr-06, at 2:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Pa020.htm I heard it gives better sustain and overtone twang to less distorted guitar work. Anyone know about the guy in Carlifornia that made them ("Aspen & Associates" in Sylmar)? This original plate I found second hand at an Italian store's web site. I guess the best way to check this out would be to make a paper template of the headstock front and go to some brass/steel lab and have them drill it for you. I'm just wondering what it would sound like to mount a Sustaniac on that brass headstock plate? ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) --Apple-Mail-3--183100290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 14:01:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C75A3BEE8; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Bill Edmondson" To: Subject: RE: Keaggy video up Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:53:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C66529.9B938A40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 thread-index: AcZk7mn/E3AYSLg6TiOVblOeRCN68AADuuoA In-Reply-To: <001b01c664ee$5eac9300$5346fea9@ws1> Message-Id: <20060421140107.1001F3BED5@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-MktMC.A.JkC.kWOSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:01:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C66529.9B938A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For whatever reason, I'm more entertained by the technical aspect of a performance. So the more looping, and 'making of' type of stuff, the better. Any other dvd's that get into the technical aspect of live performance or recording? I love the recording series that documents the making of classic recordings like 'song in the key of life', 'dark side of the moon', 'goodbye yellow brick road', . _____ From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:51 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Keaggy video up You will NOT be sorry. The entire performance is absolutely spectacular. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Edmondson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: RE: Keaggy video up I placed the order. Thanks! _____ From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Keaggy video up Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up looks at his technique, too. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Edmondson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: RE: Keaggy video up Do most of the tunes on that dvd involve looping? ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C66529.9B938A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For whatever reason, I’m more entertained by the technical aspect of a performance. So the more = looping, and ‘making of’ type of stuff, the better. Any other dvd’s that get into = the technical aspect of live performance or recording? I love the recording = series that documents the making of classic recordings like ‘song in the = key of life’, ‘dark side of the moon’, ‘goodbye yellow = brick road’, …

 

From: = Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, = 2006 10:51 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Keaggy video = up

 

You will NOT be sorry. The entire performance is = absolutely spectacular.

 

Brian

 

----- Original Message ----- =

Sent: = Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:32 PM

Subject: RE: = Keaggy video up

 

I placed the order. = Thanks!

 

From: = Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, = 2006 7:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject: Re: Keaggy video = up

 

Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up = looks at his technique, too.

 

----- Original Message ----- =

Sent: = Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM

Subject: RE: = Keaggy video up

 

Do most of the tunes on that dvd = involve looping?

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C66529.9B938A40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 14:15:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FF733BEFA; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6508755.1145628896028.JavaMail.root@web22> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 7:14:56 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: ZOOM PS-02 Palmtop Studio & Planet Waves Chord Master for Sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:15:05 +0000 (UTC) I have a ZOOM PS-02 palm-sized digital recorder for sale. This unit has bee= n used maybe once. I just don't have the time to utilize it anymore. I have= the manual and the original SmartMedia card. The unit is battery-powered, = although it does have the capability of an AC adapter (not included). These= units went for $219.00 when new. Make me an reasonable offer! The Planet Waves Chord Master is, again, in like new condition. I have used= it only a few times. $18.00. Shipping will be inexpensive as the units are lightweight. Here's some specs of the ZOOM PS-02: Audio Tracks:3=20 Recording time:16 minutes/Hi-Fi mode, 32 minutes/Long mode (32MB Memory car= d, Total tracks, Monaural)=20 Virtual Takes:10/Track=20 Song:Maximum 100=20 Preset patterns:200=20 Tempo:40-250 =C2=A5=C3=84rum Kit:6=20 Bass Program (Sound):5=20 Effect type:50 =C2=A5=C3=85ffect Module:6=20 Maximum simultaneous effects:8=20 Effect Patch Memory:User 60, Preset 60, Total 120=20 Sampling frequency:31.25kHz=20 A/D Conversion:20bit 64times oversampling=20 D/A Conversion:20bit 8times oversampling DSP:ZFx-2/24bit processing (ZOOM o= riginal)=20 Built-in Mic:Omnidirectional condenser electrostatic microphone=20 Input (Used as both Line and Mic):1/4" monaural phone jack x1, Nominal inpu= t level:-50dBm (Mic /=20 High Gain), :40dBm (Mic / Low Gain), -16dBm (Guitar/High Gain), -10dBm (Gui= tar / Low gain),=20 Input impedance:500k ohm=20 AUX Input:Mini stereo phone jack x1, Nominal input level:-10dBm, Input impe= dance:40k ohm=20 Output:1/4" stereo phone jack x1, Nominal output level:-10dBm (Load impedan= ce 10k ohm or more) , Output impedance:Less than 1k ohm=20 Headphones output:Mini Stereo phone jack x1, Nominal output level:-10dBm(Lo= ad impedance 32 ohm), Output Impedance:10 ohm=20 Display:Original LCD with Backlight=20 Memory card:3.3V Smart Media/8MB-64MB=20 Power requirements:Supplied AC adaptor AD-0006 (DC9V / 300mA / Center minus= ) or Optional AAA type battery x4=20 Continuous battery operation:More than 4 hours (Continuous playback, Alkali= ne battery)=20 Dimensions:85mm (W) x90mm (D) x35mm (H)=20 Weight:140g (Without battery) *0dBm=3D0.775Vrms=20 Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 14:44:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0CDC3BEF0; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:46:18 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) In-reply-to: <1728.128.193.37.212.1145581303.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <002001c66552$59968c40$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:44:32 +0000 (UTC) > > Q: What do you call two guitarists playing in unison? > A: Counterpoint. Q: What do you call it when two guitarists play the same note? A: A minor 2nd > Q: How can you tell that a guitarist is at your front door? > A: The knocking gets louder and faster and louder and faster > and he still doesn't know when to come in. OK, this one is definitely my favorite so far. ROTFL Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 14:46:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 208ED3BEF1; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re:Re: Keaggy video up Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:46:43 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Lovely! Incredible to see how effortlesly he seems to be in command of his Jammman (is that what he still uses?). That stuff has "flow"! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 15:01:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D05673BF04; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060421080049.01bc1770@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:01:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Re: Keaggy video up In-Reply-To: <1BA671CB-51A0-4659-8310-A797B1F30861@gmail.com> References: <20060420233752.857563BEFB@arsenic.violacea.com> <001b01c664d3$fccc1cb0$5346fea9@ws1> <913728d60604201648t718948dv223e59ba423728d6@mail.gmail.com> <1BA671CB-51A0-4659-8310-A797B1F30861@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:01:34 +0000 (UTC) >Thank you, Andreas, for telling me about Video Google. I never >thought it was that easy to post a dense video file on the internet :-) YouTube.com is also good. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 15:06:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4B483BEE6; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <392.141a9d5.317a4eeb@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:06:19 EDT Subject: Re: Any guitarrist here using a Fathead? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_392.141a9d5.317a4eeb_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:06:35 +0000 (UTC) --part1_392.141a9d5.317a4eeb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 4/21/06 5:10:06 AM, perboysen@gmail.com writes: > http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Pa020.htm >=20 > I heard it gives better sustain and overtone twang to less distorted=A0 > guitar work. >=20 hi per.....young bill walker used a thing called a fat-finger, it clipped=20 onto the headstock of one's guitar and gave a bit more sustain, he may have=20= info=20 around this.....i have noticed that just clipping my capo onto my headstock=20 made a bit of a difference.....also, march's issue of PRO AUDIO REVIEW, anot= her=20 freebie, had several articles on small compact recorders: TASCAM HD-P2=20 (www.tascam.com) and the M-AUDIO MICRO TRAC (www.m-audio.com) and lastly the= y had a=20 blurb on the SONY MZ-M100 (www.sony.com/professional) there was also an arti= cle=20 on the GEMINI iKEY which allows one to record with your=20 iPOD.....www.proaudioreview.com is hopefully where you can get these article= s.....this is a wacky=20 free mag most of the reviews are for bazillion dollar mics and stuff so anyt= ime=20 they asked that i re-up and continue to get there mag i do nothing and it=20 still comes to me.....mic p.s. their last issue had many more reviews of "small" recorders www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_392.141a9d5.317a4eeb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/21/06 5:10:06 AM, perboysen@gmail.com writes:


http://www.hendrixgui= tars.com/Pa020.htm

I heard it gives better sustain and overtone twang to less distorted=A0
guitar work.


hi per.....young bill walker used a thing called a fat-finger, it clipped= onto the headstock of one's guitar and gave a bit more sustain, he may have= info around this.....i have noticed that just clipping my capo onto my head= stock made a bit of a difference.....also, march's issue of PRO AUDIO REVIEW= , another freebie, had several articles on small compact recorders: TASCAM H= D-P2 (www.tascam.com) and the M-AUDIO MICRO TRAC (www.m-audio.com) and lastl= y they had a blurb on the SONY MZ-M100 (www.sony.com/professional) there was= also an article on the GEMINI iKEY which allows one to record with your iPO= D.....www.proaudioreview.com is hopefully where you can get these articles..= ...this is a wacky free mag most of the reviews are for bazillion dollar mic= s and stuff so anytime they asked that i re-up and continue to get there mag= i do nothing and it still comes to me.....mic
p.s. their last issue had many more reviews of "small" recorders



www.ct-collective.com
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11
 --part1_392.141a9d5.317a4eeb_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 15:06:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B3323BF13; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Bill Edmondson" To: Subject: RE: Keaggy video up Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:06:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C66533.A93D1D50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcZk0/13YPqvNUxORpGuWWsIWCbXfgAgM1Rg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <001b01c664d3$fccc1cb0$5346fea9@ws1> Message-Id: <20060421150638.C23FD3BF02@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:06:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C66533.A93D1D50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One thing I notice is that he is in the habit of tapping his foot on the upbeat (1-tap-2-tap-3-tap-4-tap). That serves the looper control well since he usually taps ahead of a loop start to control what happens next to the loop. I'm probably overanalyzing. _____ From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Keaggy video up Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up looks at his technique, too. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Edmondson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: RE: Keaggy video up Do most of the tunes on that dvd involve looping? _____ From: Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Keaggy video up I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for that. If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army Band on this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real treat. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his game when they recorded the "Live from Phillie" show. Brian ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C66533.A93D1D50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

One thing I notice is that he is in = the habit of tapping his foot on the upbeat (1-tap-2-tap-3-tap-4-tap). That = serves the looper control well since he usually taps ahead of a loop start to = control what happens next to the loop. I’m probably = overanalyzing…

 

From: = Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, = 2006 7:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Keaggy video = up

 

Every single track involves looping. Lots of close-up = looks at his technique, too.

 

----- Original Message ----- =

Sent: = Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:37 PM

Subject: RE: = Keaggy video up

 

Do most of the tunes on that dvd = involve looping?

 

From: = Carabee Computer Solutions [mailto:compguy@suscom.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, = 2006 7:24 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject: Keaggy video = up

 

I just noticed that the Phill Keaggy video is up on video.google.com. If I'm not mistaken, we have Per to thank for = that.

 

If you want a real treat, go to Keaggy's website and = order the "Live from Phillie" DVD. His rendition of Salvation Army = Band on this DVD is absolutely spectacular. The whole concert is a real = treat.

 

I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. One thing's for sure...he never plays a song the same way twice. He really was on his = game when they recorded the "Live from Phillie" = show.

 

Brian

------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C66533.A93D1D50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 15:14:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 549613BF10; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5BA7E54A-C7DA-4718-BCF7-99D4AEB2A0B7@arcor.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: Sustainiac and Fathead Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:14:52 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:14:56 +0000 (UTC) The Fathead was invented by Aspen Pittman of Groove Tubes fame. I think they still make them. They also make the FATFINGER, which weighs around 90 gr. It increases Sustain and "eliminates deadspots" (I'd throw out any instrument that has no even response....). I have a Fatfinger that I like to experiment with but I just borrowed it to a friend. When I get it back (....if I ever get it back ;-) I'll check out if any differences with the ebow, tho so far I haven't noticed anything like that. So while generally increasing the headstock weight increases sustain, it also changes the tone of the instrument. I found that already the weight of the tuners makes quite a difference. The weight of one set e.g. on a Gibson-style 3/3 arrangement varies between 150 gr (vintage Kluson style), 250 gr (Grover) to as much as 350 gr (Schaller M6). My ES 335 sounds nice and woody with Klusons, slightly swashed but more singing with Grovers and it asbsolutely dislikes those heavy Schallers, sounding dull and liveless IMO. Your mileage may vary. Cheers, Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 15:31:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4115F3BF0A; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:31:34 +0200 From: "Torstein H. Rem" Subject: Re: Sustainiac and Fathead To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000401c66558$acd2a050$0200000a@remwavesnet> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <5BA7E54A-C7DA-4718-BCF7-99D4AEB2A0B7@arcor.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Groove Tibes has changed the design from Fathead to Fatfinger. But one type of fathead is reintroduced and used by Zz Ryder guitars. I remember the original Fathead was offered in all kind of styles, for Gibsons, strats etc. http://www.groovetubes.com/groovetoys.cfm?Category_ID=30 http://www.audiocarplus.com/zzryderguitars.html Here`s a review of the older Fathead http://www.bgra.net/2004/review.php?id=115&type=effect And a couple of HC reviews of the Fatfinger http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Groove_Tubes/Fatfinger-1.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Willers" To: Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Sustainiac and Fathead > The Fathead was invented by Aspen Pittman of Groove Tubes fame. I think > they still make them. They also make the FATFINGER, which weighs around > 90 gr. It increases Sustain and "eliminates deadspots" (I'd throw out any > instrument that has no even response....). I have a Fatfinger that I like > to experiment with but I just borrowed it to a friend. When I get it back > (....if I ever get it back ;-) I'll check out if any differences with the > ebow, tho so far I haven't noticed anything like that. > > So while generally increasing the headstock weight increases sustain, it > also changes the tone of the instrument. I found that already the weight > of the tuners makes quite a difference. The weight of one set e.g. on a > Gibson-style 3/3 arrangement varies between 150 gr (vintage Kluson > style), 250 gr (Grover) to as much as 350 gr (Schaller M6). My ES 335 > sounds nice and woody with Klusons, slightly swashed but more singing > with Grovers and it asbsolutely dislikes those heavy Schallers, sounding > dull and liveless IMO. Your mileage may vary. > > Cheers, Andreas > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 15:33:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B47EB3BF11; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:x-mimeole; b=h2hN7wBEpkObf8t2MJBQvkc1pTdfp4ZhT2xLv25k+FWcrayalg1oreVZeSZueE6VQQ5v6c4u7r4RdG2kX/Q5JQeUKVvaMbzxyzU7Vke3xXQf8SPZfzKjOnT2qKF+lGCZ1G/MskBO89kL3+xnUOBeiVPFHJ6j3flVDIRH8Cl8Fas= ; Message-ID: <007d01c66558$fabbb1d0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> From: "Ben" To: Subject: looping in stereo Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:33:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: <6EbvOC.A.VMB.etPSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Hello, Sorry if this seems a basic question for a lot of you but I need a little help to setup my home recording place. I have a lot of stereo devices (synths, drumboxes, amp simulators,...) that are going into 2 line mixers and from there to a small 1202 phonic mixing console (2 FX sends mono>stereo). The "tape out" is connected to my PC via USB soundcard. The "soundcard out" is connected to my PA. (The "MAIN out" is also connected to my PA (other IN) so I can sometimes play without booting the PC.) I'm mainly looping in stereo (mobius) and would like to retain the stereo image of my synths. The problem I'm dealing with is that I can't hear something I don't want to record. I can't record while listening to a rhytm patern for instance without recording it also. If I use the FX send on the mixer to feed the PC, I'm in mono. If I use the 2 FX sends, it's difficult to have a correct level as one is Pre- and the other post-fader. Are there any easy solution? Should I buy a new mixing table? Which "cheap" model have a stereo send or dual stereo outputs (with switches of course). Would something like the behringer MINIMON MON800 fill the hole? Thanks for any info, Ben. ___________________________________________________________________________ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 15:42:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B097C3BF12; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAJiaSESIYCw Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060421162349.02dbcd30@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:42:31 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: a k butler Subject: Re: Re: Not Just the Fathead... In-Reply-To: <20060421140109.6F5DE3BEF1@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060421140109.6F5DE3BEF1@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <3P8-1.A.RsB.D2PSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:42:59 +0000 (UTC) >Does the electromagnetic e-Bow string induction depend on mechanical >headstock response? Think of it this way. You pluck the string near the bridge, and the disturbance of the string goes rushing up the neck, and rebounds from the nut, then it comes back to the bridge and bounces again, and so on, so that the oscillation produces a note. (that's one way of looking at the physics of vibration of a string) So when the pluck reaches the nut, it trys to move the nut, which is held in place by the inertia of the headstock. If the nut moves, then some of the string energy is lost, so it can't bounce back to the bridge. So by making the headstock heavier, you can improve the sustain of the guitar, because less energy is lost. As it happens, it's easier for low frequencies to move the headstock (the high frequencies don't give it as much time to get moving). So a heavier headstock can make the guitar more bassy, and can give an electric bass a more solid sound. Of course, the difference is much more noticeable on open strings. With an ebow, it might make some difference on open strings, ...but only if your ebow technique is limited to holding it near the strings and waiting ;-) andy butler (taking time off from changing lightbulbs for guitarists) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 15:48:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AB543BF24; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:49:50 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Sustainiac and Fathead To: Richard Sales , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <005d01c6655b$3f51e9c0$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_bqaVp687K9xXBwAh/qdL9w)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:48:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_bqaVp687K9xXBwAh/qdL9w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I spoke with Michael Brooks a L-O-N-G time ago. He was deliberately unclear about the Infinite Sustain thing, because 1) there was some issue of patent/exclusivity not yet resolved and 2) it's a friggin' dangerous rig, apparently runnung 120 volts right into your guitar. Kinda like running around with a toaster on your belly. I believe in terms of tone and response, the Sustainiac will do the same thing without making you feel like you're waiting on a phone call from the governor to play the second set. My experience with both the Fathead and some homemade variations was this: it adds a TASTE more sustain, but barely tames the sometimes wild resonant frequencies that some (usually bigger) headstocks can gobble up. I remember working on a Fender 5-string bass with n oversized head that made the high D (G string, 7th fret) disappear like a Houdini trick. The only amount of mass/stiffness that would counteract it was a C-clamp - about five pounds! If you had an axe that you simply couldn't live without that had this kind of problem, you might consider some graphite rods in the headstock for stiffness sans weight. BTW, Aspen and Associates, makers of the fathead, is Aspen Pittman of Groove Tubes fame. A good man with golden ears who will talk YOUR ears right off your head. Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large coyotelk@optonline.net "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." --- Hunter S. Thompson --Boundary_(ID_bqaVp687K9xXBwAh/qdL9w) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
 
 
I spoke with Michael Brooks a L-O-N-G time ago. He was deliberately unclear about the Infinite Sustain thing, because 1) there was some issue of patent/exclusivity not yet resolved and 2) it's a friggin' dangerous rig, apparently runnung 120 volts right into your guitar. Kinda like running around with a toaster on your belly. I believe in terms of tone and response, the Sustainiac will do the same thing without making you feel like you're waiting on a phone call from the governor to play the second set.
 
My experience with both the Fathead and some homemade variations was this: it adds a TASTE more sustain, but barely tames the sometimes wild resonant frequencies that some (usually bigger) headstocks can gobble up. I remember working on a Fender 5-string bass with n oversized head that made the high D (G string, 7th fret) disappear like a Houdini trick. The only amount of mass/stiffness that would counteract it was a C-clamp - about five pounds! If you had an axe that you simply couldn't live without that had this kind of problem, you might consider some graphite rods in the headstock for stiffness sans weight.
 
BTW, Aspen and Associates, makers of the fathead, is Aspen Pittman of Groove Tubes fame. A good man with golden ears who will talk YOUR ears right off your head.
 
Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large
coyotelk@optonline.net
 
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
--- Hunter S. Thompson
--Boundary_(ID_bqaVp687K9xXBwAh/qdL9w)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 15:50:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 838543BF0F; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=PRyqw7B5G+2XsBAL+KK1495H7PMgBO9B5iuCb6MTyVjD/5uCHxjZPYnmOab840rU; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:55:30 -0700 Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Sheila Olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <002001c66552$59968c40$0202a8c0@Lightning> Message-Id: <426215AC-D14F-11DA-95B5-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd4822721ea4afdb7c070263bb7d18927834ac30c6e5e32ee181350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.181.168 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Q. What do you call a guitarist without a girlfriend? A. Homeless joe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 16:21:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 291E03BF01; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:21:36 -0400 From: TonyIsYourPal@netscape.net (Tony Douglas) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <63BC4716.29177248.59DF470E@netscape.net> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 84.64.58.122 X-AOL-Language: english Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:21:42 +0000 (UTC) OK, OK, like Frank Sinatra I'm back with another "one last one" : Q: How do you tell there's a drummer at the door ? A: The knocking speeds up. - Tony PS. The hang with Electrix's web site - is there a web site with a canonical set of musician gags ??? Sheila Olson wrote: [ with another musician joke ] __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 16:25:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC61F3BF0E; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-78.messagelabs.com!1145636741!9121014!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC910A@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: electrix boogaloo beta testing Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:25:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C66560.39288360" Resent-Message-ID: <-54t5C.A.SmE.IeQSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:25:44 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C66560.39288360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>Overdub into Record was one of the features..... I'm still in the process of switching to the Looperlative though...<< I think, folks, that says it all. electrix, you've had your chance. duncan. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. 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>>Overdub into Record was one of the features.....
I'm still in the process of switching to the Looperlative though...<<

I think, folks, that says it all. electrix, you've had your chance.

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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C66560.39288360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 16:55:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78F173BEF6; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qFTMXQWzYneNHNaf+swrC8jrFbyDchyn7gfB8AHNstBlx/tw7qauxcyycO+uzg14nOrfoEVCvA6lNl14RB2Dcw4nwvrrAICe4tPxFLAlxzxgCC1kKvd3Xy5PbULgiDj5Sr8AhGTdmmKkJgWNdNb5mmXLumrhFiC8RNl/v1k6gIo= ; Message-ID: <20060421165537.41621.qmail@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Subject: Re: JEFF & TED DANCE-A-THON To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060420085222.B1FF93BEDB@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:55:39 +0000 (UTC) > Well, you know me. I can't dance too much. I was raised by > fundamentalists. So how come Protestants don't have sex standing up? It leads to dancing... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 17:07:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABDA83BF0E; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060421015749.32663.qmail@web33801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060421015749.32663.qmail@web33801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:05:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:07:21 +0000 (UTC) At 6:57 PM -0700 4/20/06, ditch wrestler wrote: >Did you hear about the drummer that became so despondant over his >bad timing that he threw himself behind a train? That's a new one on me - good one! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 17:07:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00CE03BF15; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604201520i14385e92h8b886d1729237d2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060420192922.6FE393BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> <44480674.10600@speakeasy.net> <64b81a780604201520i14385e92h8b886d1729237d2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:03:47 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:07:21 +0000 (UTC) At 6:20 PM -0400 4/20/06, Todd Pafford wrote: >Q: What do you call the guy that hangs around the band? >A: The bass player. Shoukldn't that be "hangs around with musicians"? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 17:11:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22D223BF10; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4449123E.3080807@biink.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:11:26 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) References: <20060420192922.6FE393BEF7@arsenic.violacea.com> <44480674.10600@speakeasy.net> <64b81a780604201520i14385e92h8b886d1729237d2a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:11:20 +0000 (UTC) David Gans wrote: > At 6:20 PM -0400 4/20/06, Todd Pafford wrote: > >> Q: What do you call the guy that hangs around the band? >> A: The bass player. > > > Shoukldn't that be "hangs around with musicians"? Did you hear the one about the three musicans and a drummer? -- * David Beardsley * microtonal guitar * http://biink.com/db From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 17:16:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 574E13BF28; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KVY4Au1zbcJS1UWbSK7yrENF3R2HHMfLLoqVJKBu2yipR1DDY/XpcCT9pg37/vsBPxYsNr68crMogoSSrh8/V1TP1O4P4W1nI36FQ7VpJiIuAku2EYazTppVwlpPu7nLKcMo96XhQstk3XgJvUmRU4d/t7le/FvFx9RKhA4tTQM= ; Message-ID: <20060421171633.80155.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:16:33 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Live Internet Performance on April 23 - Krispen Hartung & Rainer Straschill To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002a01c66523$983cf3f0$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:16:35 +0000 (UTC) That does sound interesting. I can't wait to check it out. --- Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > I plan to record this (and I'm sure Kris will do so, > too) and make it > available for download. > And for all the people who have followed the > Ninjam/webstream jamming > discussion (also with Mark Sottilaro and me), if > both of us make it > available, you can compare both versions, because > they will be different due > to the time shift thing... > > Rainer > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] > > Gesendet: Freitag, 21. April 2006 07:53 > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Betreff: Re: Live Internet Performance on April 23 > - Krispen > > Hartung & Rainer Straschill > > > > On 21 apr 2006, at 00.31, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > > > Hello all - > > > > > > Rainer Straschill and I are planning to stream a > live > > performance to > > > the internet this coming Sunday. > > > > > > Will it be recorded and posted as a downloadable > file or podcast, so > > busy time-shift junkies like me get a chance to > listen? > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 17:25:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C6233BF00; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XfLlhWFegvK5pB6qOghf665yNk15UE0FdmSHX3GcVBY98tTPPEILuGuY9O3CXoZAaHYBgHGP92sFDacqwxNEShR1UYiCLpVulJz+gPt3tMiFmWuXOGSEiM4ky4BbKLYchiG8KRBykxb2eiQicNzgWbchiSoULJaDoeU4dJAOfcY= ; Message-ID: <20060421172543.8100.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:25:43 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: News From Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8549F8C6-AD2D-40B2-9A74-CCF567846969@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <2TZqvD.A.G3.ZWRSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:25:45 +0000 (UTC) --- Simon Le Geyt wrote: > If you follow the links to the CF cards you get to > Pro Sound, > presumably a legit company, whose advertising copy > for the cards > talks quite specifically about their joint testing > (with Electrix) of > these cards for Repeater and Repeater Mk2 And this is marketing? That's like Ford not releasing info on a new car model and instead having a mention of the new car on a Goodyear tire site. I'm still skeptical. If it does come out as software that can be run on my Repeater, I'd surely pay for it. If it's a hardware upgrade... I'm pretty sure I'd pay for that too. Buy a new one? Maybe... if I could fetch a decent price for my mk1 on Ebay and the mk2 proved to be a good product. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 17:28:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 273133BF0F; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=44awKfK0tVL36BnnsEVl38GBMLe4QQKnP7dEKEE7P9jfNr4QXX0tZp/q8CtNchCAbvSlMShIyToEu8QQUbJBiz/6An9TJx6kxmdBuqmVL1PXzoPEBkHDWwu6nLrMZRurPSLrucaEUuiLrK3IBUCE1jKf79I+doJsqGSiFppBmsk= ; Message-ID: <20060421172845.50181.qmail@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:28:45 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Repeater II - What's the right price for this device? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000801c664ce$1b46c060$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <7dfr7.A.RHB.NZRSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:28:46 +0000 (UTC) --- David Kirkdorffer wrote: > From that standpoint, I want to ask the group this > question: **What do you > feel is the "right price" for the anticipated > Electrix Repeater II?** I'd say they could easily ask $600 to $700 for such a device based on it's features. I forgot what the group buy price was but it was in the $500 neighborhood... I don't know if that still stands. I'd pay $100 for an upgrade. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 17:32:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59ABA3BEF7; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pBs1MCH1zbMEU9NiFpKzIVVp1Kg3gaFPKz/aTVqdyMFLelFxohhOGvZ8X0DGwAg1Mwb4Zq0G2rFYC38nSb4E47MMoFMh5DsKwJv3sV65/aom5YHWCi9TkcmEtA957KUgeRU8ehYijVdqpEWc7qs6FBDICAEQacRc9b1ahPr6VoI= ; Message-ID: <20060421173136.52720.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:31:36 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Repeater II - What's the right price for this device? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000801c664ce$1b46c060$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <9iAfJB.A.2VB.TcRSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:32:04 +0000 (UTC) --- David Kirkdorffer wrote: > Good. They've updated their webpage. It's good to > know we can make a > difference. They have? There's nothing new on the home page. Still says, "early next year" and they haven't posted an announcement on the forum page since March 14... of 2005. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 17:57:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8E803BEE9; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-72.messagelabs.com!1145642277!33089371!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC910C@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: looping in stereo Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:57:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6656D.1D2989E0" Resent-Message-ID: <6KlNQD.A.BmC.n0RSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:57:59 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6656D.1D2989E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>Sorry if this seems a basic question for a lot of you.....<< not all of us are technicians, though it does tend to go with the territory... :-) >>Should I buy a new mixing table?<< sounds like this is the best bet. you want something either with genuine stereo aux capability (rarer than you might think, certainly amongst smaller desks) or stereo grouping. this latter would allow you to send stereo devices to a separate stereo output & then return them through the desk again to the main outputs. BUT if you're using the pc to do the looping aswell as recording, you'll need to upgrade the soundcard to at least 4 in, 4 out. >>Which "cheap" model have a stereo send or dual stereo outputs<< I have one of the small behringer rackmount jobs which has two stereo groups + a main stereo out. it seems fine so far, & has a bunch of stereo effects too. umm..... this one: http://www.behringer.com/UB2442FX/index.cfm?lang=ENG hth- duncan. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. 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>>Sorry if this seems a basic question for a lot of= you.....<<

not all of us are technicians, though it does tend to go = with the territory... :-)

>>Should I buy a new mixing table?<<

sounds like this is the best bet. you want something eith= er with genuine stereo aux capability (rarer than you might think, certainl= y amongst smaller desks) or stereo grouping. this latter would allow you to= send stereo devices to a separate stereo output & then return them thr= ough the desk again to the main outputs.

BUT if you're using the pc to do the looping aswell as re= cording, you'll need to upgrade the soundcard to at least 4 in, 4 out.

>>Which "cheap" model have a stereo send = or dual stereo outputs<<

I have one of the small behringer rackmount jobs which ha= s two stereo groups + a main stereo out. it seems fine so far, & has a = bunch of stereo effects too. umm..... this one: http://www.behrin= ger.com/UB2442FX/index.cfm?lang=3DENG

hth-
duncan.



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>>I'd throw out any instrument that has no even  response....<<

I'm guessing here, but that would leave you without any fenders..... :-)

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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6656D.4D2C3020-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 18:17:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DE833BEFA; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: looping in stereo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6656F.E5BC63F3" Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:17:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C070F12@keel.sailpoint.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: looping in stereo Thread-Index: AcZlbSGMCfRKd8ePQQqiC0GYO/4BAAAAky7A From: "jeff larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: <3I2f_.A.1DE.PHSSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:17:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6656F.E5BC63F3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com [mailto:goddard.duncan@mtvne.com]=20 =20 >>Should I buy a new mixing table?<<=20 > > sounds like this is the best bet. > ... > BUT if you're using the pc to do the looping as well as recording,=20 > you'll need to upgrade the soundcard to at least 4 in, 4 out. =20 Why the 4x4 sound card? =20 I'm using a Mackie 1202 for PC looping, not only does it solve the problem of monitoring sound sources without recording them, it also solves the problem of monitoring the output of the looper without it recording itself (the bad kind of feedback). =20 I'm not standing in front of it right now, but the routing is something like this: =20 - various sources into the mixer, including the PC sound card output - mixer main outs to the PC sound card input - mixer "control room" outs goes to power amp and speakers - PC track has Mute button pressed which redirects it to the special "Aux 3-4" stereo bus - Monitoring section has some button pressed that causes both the main outs and and Aux 3-4 sent to the control room outs =20 The trick is to "mute" the track containing the PC sound card output, which removes it from the main outs so the PC won't record itself,=20 but then route it to the control room outs so you can hear it. =20 You could then use the mute button on other tracks to selectively=20 remove them from what the looper is recording, but still hear them. =20 Jeff =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6656F.E5BC63F3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: looping in stereo
> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com=20 [mailto:goddard.duncan@mtvne.com]
 
>>Should I buy a = new mixing=20 table?<<
>
> sounds like this is the best = bet.
>=20 ...
> BUT if you're using the pc to do the looping as well as = recording,=20
> you'll need to upgrade the soundcard to at least 4 in, 4=20 out.
 
Why the 4x4 sound = card?
 
I'm using a Mackie 1202 = for PC=20 looping, not only does it solve
the problem of monitoring sound = sources=20 without recording them, it
also solves the problem of monitoring the = output=20 of the looper without
it recording itself (the bad kind of=20 feedback).
 
I'm not standing in = front of it right=20 now, but the routing is
something like this:
 
   - various = sources into=20 the mixer, including the PC sound card output
   - mixer = main outs=20 to the PC sound card input
   - mixer "control room" outs = goes to=20 power amp and speakers
   - PC track has Mute button = pressed which=20 redirects it to the special
     "Aux 3-4" stereo = bus
   - Monitoring section has some button pressed that = causes=20 both
     the main outs and and Aux 3-4 sent to = the=20 control room outs
 
The trick is to "mute" = the track=20 containing the PC sound card output,
which removes it from the main = outs so=20 the PC won't record itself,
but then route it to the control = room  outs so you can hear = it.
 
You could then use the = mute button on=20 other tracks to selectively
remove them from what the looper is = recording,=20 but still hear them.
 
Jeff
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C6656F.E5BC63F3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 18:20:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6296D3BEFE; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <007d01c66558$fabbb1d0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> References: <007d01c66558$fabbb1d0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: Re: looping in stereo Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:20:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:20:37 +0000 (UTC) I'm not sure I understand the question?....Is that a mackie 1202? You =20= can use the alt outputs on the mackie (using the mute buttons sends it =20= to the alt outs) as a separate stereo send.....(I did this for years) =20= then run the processed signal from the alt outputs back into another =20 two channels and assign it to the main outs.........I hope that doesn't =20= sound to confusing.... Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Ben wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry if this seems a basic question for a lot of you but I need a =20 > little help to setup my home recording place. > I have a lot of stereo devices (synths, drumboxes, amp simulators,...) = =20 > that are going into 2 line mixers and from there to a small 1202 =20 > phonic mixing console (2 FX sends mono>stereo). > The "tape out" is connected to my PC via USB soundcard. > The "soundcard out" is connected to my PA. > (The "MAIN out" is also connected to my PA (other IN) so I can =20 > sometimes play without booting the PC.) > > I'm mainly looping in stereo (mobius) and would like to retain the =20 > stereo image of my synths. > > The problem I'm dealing with is that I can't hear something I don't =20= > want to record. I can't record while listening to a rhytm patern for =20= > instance without recording it also. > If I use the FX send on the mixer to feed the PC, I'm in mono. > If I use the 2 FX sends, it's difficult to have a correct level as one = =20 > is Pre- and the other post-fader. > > Are there any easy solution? Should I buy a new mixing table? > Which "cheap" model have a stereo send or dual stereo outputs (with =20= > switches of course). > Would something like the behringer MINIMON MON800 fill the hole? > > Thanks for any info, > > Ben. > > > > =09 > > =09 > =09 > = _______________________________________________________________________=20= > ____ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver =20= > directement vos services pr=E9f=E9r=E9s : v=E9rifiez vos nouveaux = mails, =20 > lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualit=E9 en temps r=E9el. = Rendez-vous =20 > sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 18:21:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60C073BF07; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C070F12@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C070F12@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <55f0140fb94bdc15e44e77b0a154932b@pfmentum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: Re: looping in stereo Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:21:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:21:58 +0000 (UTC) two jeff's thinking alike simultaneously..... :-) Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com On Apr 21, 2006, at 11:17 AM, jeff larson wrote: > > From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com [mailto:goddard.duncan@mtvne.com] > =A0 > >>Should I buy a new mixing table?<< > > > > sounds like this is the best bet. > > ... > > BUT if you're using the pc to do the looping as well as recording, > > you'll need to upgrade the soundcard to at least 4 in, 4 out. > =A0 > Why the 4x4 sound card? > =A0 > I'm using a Mackie 1202 for PC looping, not only does it solve > the problem of monitoring sound sources without recording them, it > also solves the problem of monitoring the output of the looper without > it recording itself (the bad kind of feedback). > =A0 > I'm not standing in front of it right now, but the routing is > something like this: > =A0 > =A0=A0 - various sources into the mixer, including the PC sound card = output > =A0=A0 - mixer main outs to the PC sound card input > =A0=A0 - mixer "control room" outs goes to power amp and speakers > =A0=A0 - PC track has Mute button pressed which redirects it to the = special > =A0=A0=A0=A0 "Aux 3-4" stereo bus > =A0=A0 - Monitoring section has some button pressed that causes both > =A0=A0=A0=A0 the main outs and and Aux 3-4 sent to the control room = outs > =A0 > The trick is to "mute" the track containing the PC sound card output, > which removes it from the main outs so the PC won't record itself, > but then route it to the control room=A0=A0outs so you can hear it. > =A0 > You could then use the mute button on other tracks to selectively > remove them from what the looper is recording, but still hear them. > =A0 > Jeff > =A0 > =A0= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 18:28:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CDFF3BEFB; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q+Av1MB8m85GFSiGPR71kRLoL8W5lOY7JYPMD4WlYEIe0WF+y49FPxfH0yWSw9dRC6f0+JsLZoQM/dR6LSbGwaDucX8m6+n6ausG6hQ9J0hQ+dJwvJeJtnGU3eEF1HCwNMV0nOk8I5GfVcXTV9zDPvPD4w5TUdidWJjTguXo70Y= Message-ID: <913728d60604211128v5d9c52a7p845add25913afa6c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:28:13 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: News From Electrix In-Reply-To: <20060421172543.8100.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <8549F8C6-AD2D-40B2-9A74-CCF567846969@mac.com> <20060421172543.8100.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:28:15 +0000 (UTC) I hate to go conspiracy theorist on everybody, but maybe they are only doing this to get people excited again...i have been hearing some pretty bad things against Electrix, and so maybe the Electrix people are doing this to generate some excitement, yet they still have no intentions on releasing the repeater mk.2 for another few years...I mean, even Zoe, who apparently did beta-testing for the new repeater, and she said that she has been done with that for a year now...and Mark has a good point. Why would they advertise on another website...i would think something as big as their new flagship product would mean frontpage stuff...i am not saying this what is going on, but from what i have ben hearing, I wouldn't get excited...of course, several people have already said this on LD :) Charlie On 4/21/06, mark sottilaro wrote: > --- Simon Le Geyt wrote: > > > If you follow the links to the CF cards you get to > > Pro Sound, > > presumably a legit company, whose advertising copy > > for the cards > > talks quite specifically about their joint testing > > (with Electrix) of > > these cards for Repeater and Repeater Mk2 > > And this is marketing? That's like Ford not releasing > info on a new car model and instead having a mention > of the new car on a Goodyear tire site. > > I'm still skeptical. If it does come out as software > that can be run on my Repeater, I'd surely pay for it. > If it's a hardware upgrade... I'm pretty sure I'd pay > for that too. Buy a new one? Maybe... if I could > fetch a decent price for my mk1 on Ebay and the mk2 > proved to be a good product. > > Mark > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 18:36:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50E4B3BF05; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:36:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <4449123E.3080807@biink.com> Thread-Index: AcZlZqB58miVRQKgS02SzG50TYFaaAAC76+w Message-Id: <20060421183635.WOYN15879.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@Desktop2002> Resent-Message-ID: <6selSB.A.iRF.0YSSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Time for one of my favorites, "The Four Stages of Celebrity" Step 1. Step 1. Step 1. Step 1. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 18:39:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40C783BEEA; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: Jokes (amended) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:39:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZlcvgkJI8F104VQbyNmIJbJz1tCg== Message-Id: <20060421183956.WKMS18566.fed1rmmtao09.cox.net@Desktop2002> Resent-Message-ID: <3Y-DEB.A.2kF.9bSSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Time for one of my favorites, "The Four Stages of Celebrity" (Hope it's worth waiting for) Step 1. Who's Andre LaFosse Step 2. Get me Andre LaFosse Step 3. Get me a young Andre LaFosse Step 4. Who's Andre LaFosse Hey, it's a loop joke! Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 21:40:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B52433BEDA; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:40:44 +0000 From: "Fluke" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: "Fluke" Subject: Re: Sustainiac and Fathead X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: UebiMiau 2.7.2 X-Original-IP: 84.12.82.62 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MSMail-Priority: Medium Importance: Medium Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20060421214047.4269C334B70@smtp.nildram.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <09rutD.A.rW.lFVSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Brooks is evasive about the technology because he had the actual circuit engineering done by a Mr Kam Dulay, based in the West Midlands of the United Kingdoim. I worked with Kam on some unrelated electronics for several years. www.sutainiac.com has about the best and most comprehensive write up of the history of the Brooks, Fernandez and sustainic systems I know of. Nik --------- Original Message -------- From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: "Richard Sales" , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Sustainiac and Fathead Date: 21/04/06 15:48 I spoke with Michael Brooks a L-O-N-G time ago. He was deliberately unclear about the Infinite Sustain thing, because 1) there was some issue of patent/exclusivity not yet resolved and 2) it's a friggin' dangerous rig, apparently runnung 120 volts right into your guitar. Kinda like running around with a toaster on your belly. I believe in terms of tone and response, the Sustainiac will do the same thing without making you feel like you're waiting on a phone call from the governor to play the second set. My experience with both the Fathead and some homemade variations was this: it adds a TASTE more sustain, but barely tames the sometimes wild resonant frequencies that some (usually bigger) headstocks can gobble up. I remember working on a Fender 5-string bass with n oversized head that made the high D (G string, 7th fret) disappear like a Houdini trick. The only amount of mass/stiffness that would counteract it was a C-clamp - about five pounds! If you had an axe that you simply couldn't live without that had this kind of problem, you might consider some graphite rods in the headstock for stiffness sans weight. BTW, Aspen and Associates, makers of the fathead, is Aspen Pittman of Groove Tubes fame. A good man with golden ears who will talk YOUR ears right off your head. Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large coyotelk@optonline.net "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." --- Hunter S. Thompson ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 21:58:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9E233BED9; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: pfMENTUM and Angry Vegan Records... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:58:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Hey Loopers, I've updated the tunes on the MySpace sites for my record labels....if=20= you are interested, check out the free downloads...a variety of music=20 from the acoustic madness on some of the new pfMENTUM releases, to the=20= electronic looping of Bill Harrington on Angry Vegan (he's a Radial=20 guy...) http://www.myspace.com/pfmentum http://www.myspace.com/angryvegan and we could always use more friends...so send me an add.... best, Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 22:11:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 065FA3BECF; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Any guitarist here using a Fathead? Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:11:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C66555.D4E6AA30" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <392.141a9d5.317a4eeb@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: <5DkaxD.A.nzC.iiVSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:11:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C66555.D4E6AA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes Scoots is correct. I have a fat finger, right here in my 501 jeans, but seriously, groove Tubes is still making both items, fat fingers and heads, and yes they do give more sustain and a slightly more compressed tone, and take care of some dead spots. BUT, I have since gone back to using the lightest vintage style tuners I can find as I feel that, what bit of sustain I might loose, I appreciate the response and liveliness of an instrument that has very low headstock mass, wider dynamic range and better instrument balance. Want more sustain? go to a larger profile neck , though some folks don't find these very comfortable. I use big Louisville slugger sized necks, but if you had a slim modern profile neck like what Ibanez uses, then a fat finger might cure what ails you. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Nemoguitt@aol.com [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:06 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any guitarrist here using a Fathead? In a message dated 4/21/06 5:10:06 AM, perboysen@gmail.com writes: http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Pa020.htm I heard it gives better sustain and overtone twang to less distorted guitar work. hi per.....young bill walker used a thing called a fat-finger, it clipped onto the headstock of one's guitar and gave a bit more sustain, he may have info around this.....i have noticed that just clipping my capo onto my headstock made a bit of a difference.....also, march's issue of PRO AUDIO REVIEW, another freebie, had several articles on small compact recorders: TASCAM HD-P2 (www.tascam.com) and the M-AUDIO MICRO TRAC (www.m-audio.com) and lastly they had a blurb on the SONY MZ-M100 (www.sony.com/professional) there was also an article on the GEMINI iKEY which allows one to record with your iPOD.....www.proaudioreview.com is hopefully where you can get these articles.....this is a wacky free mag most of the reviews are for bazillion dollar mics and stuff so anytime they asked that i re-up and continue to get there mag i do nothing and it still comes to me.....mic p.s. their last issue had many more reviews of "small" recorders www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C66555.D4E6AA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
yes=20 Scoots is correct. I have a fat finger, right here in my 501 jeans, but=20 seriously, groove Tubes is still making both items, fat fingers and = heads, and=20 yes they do give more sustain and a slightly more compressed tone, and = take care=20 of some dead spots. BUT,  I have since gone back to using the = lightest=20 vintage style tuners I can find as I feel that, what bit of sustain I = might=20 loose, I appreciate the response and liveliness of an instrument that = has very=20 low headstock mass, wider dynamic range and better instrument balance. = Want more=20 sustain? go to a larger profile neck , though some folks don't find = these very=20 comfortable. I use big Louisville slugger sized necks, but if you = had a=20 slim modern profile neck like what Ibanez uses, then a fat finger might = cure=20 what ails you.
Bill
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From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:06 = AM
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Subject: Re:=20 Any guitarrist here using a Fathead?


In a message dated 4/21/06 5:10:06 AM,=20 perboysen@gmail.com writes:


http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Pa020.htm

I = heard it=20 gives better sustain and overtone twang to less = distorted 
guitar=20 work.


hi per.....young bill walker used a thing called = a=20 fat-finger, it clipped onto the headstock of one's guitar and gave a = bit more=20 sustain, he may have info around this.....i have noticed that just = clipping my=20 capo onto my headstock made a bit of a difference.....also, march's = issue of=20 PRO AUDIO REVIEW, another freebie, had several articles on small = compact=20 recorders: TASCAM HD-P2 (www.tascam.com) and the M-AUDIO MICRO TRAC=20 (www.m-audio.com) and lastly they had a blurb on the SONY MZ-M100=20 (www.sony.com/professional) there was also an article on the GEMINI = iKEY which=20 allows one to record with your iPOD.....www.proaudioreview.com is = hopefully=20 where you can get these articles.....this is a wacky free mag most of = the=20 reviews are for bazillion dollar mics and stuff so anytime they asked = that i=20 re-up and continue to get there mag i do nothing and it still comes to = me.....mic
p.s. their last issue had many more reviews of "small"=20 = recorders



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 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C66555.D4E6AA30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 22:19:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C7F33BEC5; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20060421221937858.D19A12C00090@mwinf3101.me.freeserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060421172543.8100.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060421172543.8100.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Le Geyt Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:19:36 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:19:39 +0000 (UTC) I'm not suggesting that Electrix were party to or had any knowledge of Pro Sound's ad copy prior to publication - although they will know about it now if Guru truly is an Electrix employee. A well-organised company like Ford will have highly restrictive confidentiality clauses built into contracts with any of its suppliers. Electrix however, unlike Ford, doesn't seem to know its arse from its elbow. Somehow I can't envisage the Electrix Marketing department (if there is one at the moment) thinking to instruct R&D or Production "tell any third party not to mention us in their product advertising". But who knows - the 'Pro Sound ploy' may be a new (obscure) form of product hype. Anyway, like you, I hope we get the chance to upgrade or buy a Mk2. Simon Le Geyt On 21 Apr 2006, at 18:25, mark sottilaro wrote: > --- Simon Le Geyt wrote: > >> If you follow the links to the CF cards you get to >> Pro Sound, >> presumably a legit company, whose advertising copy >> for the cards >> talks quite specifically about their joint testing >> (with Electrix) of >> these cards for Repeater and Repeater Mk2 > > And this is marketing? That's like Ford not releasing > info on a new car model and instead having a mention > of the new car on a Goodyear tire site. > > I'm still skeptical. If it does come out as software > that can be run on my Repeater, I'd surely pay for it. > If it's a hardware upgrade... I'm pretty sure I'd pay > for that too. Buy a new one? Maybe... if I could > fetch a decent price for my mk1 on Ebay and the mk2 > proved to be a good product. > > Mark > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 22:40:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D42C3BED6; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749) In-Reply-To: <913728d60604211128v5d9c52a7p845add25913afa6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <8549F8C6-AD2D-40B2-9A74-CCF567846969@mac.com> <20060421172543.8100.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913728d60604211128v5d9c52a7p845add25913afa6c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1A5B4546-4169-4C22-B8FD-DF16E4DFADE8@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:40:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749) X-Server-Quench: d3bcc6b9-d187-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:40:28 +0000 (UTC) i'm just going to wait patiently!!! a few more months won't kill me. i'm not mad at them because... 1) i still love my cute lil blinky repeaters, nothing else can do what they do, and electrix made them (even if i am worried my repeaters are going to kick the bucket at any minute, hence my switch to the looperlative). and... 2) i worked in software and i know that stuff can go really wrong, especially if a company is small and critical knowledge contained in just a few brains. i'm guessing something went really wrong over there! i just wish they'd tell us!! honestly is always the best policy... and.. 3) i still believe that eventually they will come out with an official 2.0 and/or the MK II. optimistically yours!! Zoe p.s. maybe i'm feeling this way because i just walked out of the apple store with a brand new macbook! i took my powerbook in to the genius bar this morning, showed them the scrambled video and pointed to my case history (2 logic board replacements where everything other than the hard drive was replaced). without me even asking, they took back the powerbook and gave me full credit towards anything in the store. i have to upgrade all my apps, but i'm pretty happy... On Apr 21, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Charlie Milkey wrote: > I hate to go conspiracy theorist on everybody, but maybe they are only > doing this to get people excited again...i have been hearing some > pretty bad things against Electrix, and so maybe the Electrix people > are doing this to generate some excitement, yet they still have no > intentions on releasing the repeater mk.2 for another few years...I > mean, even Zoe, who apparently did beta-testing for the new repeater, > and she said that she has been done with that for a year now...and > Mark has a good point. Why would they advertise on another website...i > would think something as big as their new flagship product would mean > frontpage stuff...i am not saying this what is going on, but from what > i have ben hearing, I wouldn't get excited...of course, several people > have already said this on LD :) > > Charlie > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 21 22:58:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 944053BEE1; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20060421225840625.98BD6C400074@mwinf3016.me.freeserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060421172543.8100.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060421172543.8100.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <900B766B-BB9F-46B9-8CBF-ADB40BF3338A@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Le Geyt Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:58:38 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:58:42 +0000 (UTC) I'm not suggesting that Electrix were party to or had any knowledge of Pro Sound's ad copy prior to publication - although they will know about it now if Guru truly is an Electrix employee. A well-organised company like Ford will have highly restrictive confidentiality clauses built into contracts with any of its suppliers. Electrix however, unlike Ford, doesn't seem to know its arse from its elbow. Somehow I can't envisage the Electrix Marketing department (if there is one at the moment) thinking to instruct R&D or Production "tell any third party not to mention us in their product advertising". But who knows - the 'Pro Sound ploy' may be a new (obscure) form of product hype. Anyway, like you, I hope we get the chance to upgrade or buy a Mk2. Simon Le Geyt On 21 Apr 2006, at 18:25, mark sottilaro wrote: > --- Simon Le Geyt wrote: > >> If you follow the links to the CF cards you get to >> Pro Sound, >> presumably a legit company, whose advertising copy >> for the cards >> talks quite specifically about their joint testing >> (with Electrix) of >> these cards for Repeater and Repeater Mk2 > > And this is marketing? That's like Ford not releasing > info on a new car model and instead having a mention > of the new car on a Goodyear tire site. > > I'm still skeptical. If it does come out as software > that can be run on my Repeater, I'd surely pay for it. > If it's a hardware upgrade... I'm pretty sure I'd pay > for that too. Buy a new one? Maybe... if I could > fetch a decent price for my mk1 on Ebay and the mk2 > proved to be a good product. > > Mark > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 01:18:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DED1A3BECA; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-OB-Received: from unknown (208.36.123.30) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 22 Apr 2006 00:39:05 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "joe rut" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:18:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) X-Originating-Ip: 66.245.13.89 X-Originating-Server: ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20060422011807.198B886B12@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:18:24 +0000 (UTC) 6:57 PM -0700 4/20/06, ditch wrestler wrote: > > Did you hear about the drummer that became so despondant over his=20 > > bad timing that he threw himself behind a train? Great one!!! Q: How many drummers does it take to change a light bulb? A: Why?....OHhhhhh, cuz it's like totally dark in here, dude? > --=20 _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pa= ges http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.as= p?SRC=3Dlycos10 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 01:58:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E7AF3BEAF; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1A5B4546-4169-4C22-B8FD-DF16E4DFADE8@zoekeating.com> References: <8549F8C6-AD2D-40B2-9A74-CCF567846969@mac.com> <20060421172543.8100.qmail@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913728d60604211128v5d9c52a7p845add25913afa6c@mail.gmail.com> <1A5B4546-4169-4C22-B8FD-DF16E4DFADE8@zoekeating.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:57:45 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: News From Electrix Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:58:22 +0000 (UTC) At 11:40 PM -0700 4/21/06, Zoe Keating wrote: >i'm just going to wait patiently!!! a few more months won't kill me. >i'm not mad at them because... > >1) i still love my cute lil blinky repeaters, nothing else can do >what they do, and electrix made them (even if i am worried my >repeaters are going to kick the bucket at any minute, hence my >switch to the looperlative). Yep, that's pretty much where I am. I can afford to be optimistic, because it don't cost me nothing. If they finally release the MkII, it'll be good, and I'll get one (and/or the upgrade for my original Repeater). But I'm not going to die if Electrix evaporates tomorrow and the MkII never comes out. In the meantime, I've got my MkI and I've got an LP-1 waiting for me when I finally get home next week. The Looperlative is gonna have more than enough cool things to keep me busy for quite a while. :) >p.s. maybe i'm feeling this way because i just walked out of the >apple store with a brand new macbook! i took my powerbook in to the >genius bar this morning, showed them the scrambled video and pointed >to my case history (2 logic board replacements where everything >other than the hard drive was replaced). without me even asking, >they took back the powerbook and gave me full credit towards >anything in the store. i have to upgrade all my apps, but i'm pretty >happy... Sweet! Was this through the retailer or through Apple themselves? Unfortunately, I've had similar circumstances and taken them directly through Apple, whose Support team instructed me to buy a new computer (no credit, no nothin'). There's an argument for using a good retailer rather than buying direct. --m. -- _______ "Snakes on a Plane..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 04:52:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E86CB3BECA; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:52:09 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: solid state recorders Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <2vJIk.A.kaF.eabSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:52:46 +0000 (UTC) At 1:15 PM +0200 4/20/06, Per Boysen wrote: >I recently bought an iPod with a 30 GB drive. There is a rumor >saying that both Apple and Griffin are soon to release mic recording >adapters for iPod. I've had two portable DAT recorders over the last >fifteen(?) years but batteries wear out and products get >discontinued. I'm betting on the iPod for future field recording >work ;-) Per, FWIW, you might try looking at the Gemini iKey for the time being. While it's gotten some knocks on the interface as well as some design aspects such as battery access, it sports stereo RCA inputs (which may or may not be appropriate for your purposes?) and will connect directly to an iPod via its USB adapter. It's about the size of two packs of cigarettes. They're cheap too -- looks like they just had a price drop to ~$99. I got one to use with my iPod (one of the standard 20gb models) but I've found it's just as convenient to just stick a 1gb USB thumb drive in it. That alone will get up to 1.5 hours of 16bit/44k uncompressed .wav files. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 05:36:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04E7B3BEC5; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 05:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: |()()ping video uploade Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:36:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 05:36:17 +0000 (UTC) I purchased a cheap plastic, battery powered spirographic drawing toy yesterday (all of $4) and noticed it was UV active, so I went into my bathroom and turned out all the lights and.............................NO......................that's not where I"m going with this story.......... ...........and holding a little pen UV light in my mouth, the spirograph in my hand with my finger on the on/off button I made a little 30 second video loop on my terrible Radio Shack camera. Anyway, I put some music from my upcoming CD against it and used some cheapo effects and made a little looping video for everyone. If you care to see it, it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzX9J6TPz0Q I'm really into these 30 second loops that this camera makes. The fidelity is terrible and I rather like it. There is another video at my YouTube page using the same technique. Let me know what you think. I used looping concepts but the music was NOT done in real time. yours, Rick Walker www.looppool.info From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 06:00:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AC4F3BECA; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=x37afbKkNucauGF30qUXe9SuOROwzNDWpM7NUHYzNpWLkJj0BsQ/rnlsjB5/pnD+YXczyoo0LnJ8ttprR5f8NR9uFkHS6zaL4nPVq+YtZ331ZL820zU1E3o/YlYdQ6C45h/NLdfc4iPWH9gh9EgvmdiNMfNU5y5V8DkTsIyoWFY= ; Message-ID: <20060422060007.29146.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:00:07 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: |()()ping video uploade To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:00:09 +0000 (UTC) cool stuff Rick,i like the sounds,they gave me a feeling of the ebb and flow of time...looking ahead to the past kind of thing...and the video~ya gotta love the color blue.especially electric blue. to the future, danny scary. --- "loop.pool" wrote: > I purchased a cheap plastic, battery powered > spirographic drawing > toy yesterday (all of $4) and noticed it was UV > active, > so I went into my bathroom and turned out all the > lights > and.............................NO......................that's > not where I"m > going with this story.......... > > ...........and holding a little pen UV light in my > mouth, the spirograph in > my hand > with my finger on the on/off button I made a little > 30 second video loop > on my terrible Radio Shack camera. > > Anyway, I put some music from my upcoming CD > against it and used some > cheapo effects and made a little looping video for > everyone. > > If you care to see it, it's at > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzX9J6TPz0Q > > I'm really into these 30 second loops that this > camera makes. The fidelity > is terrible > and I rather like it. There is another video at > my YouTube page using the > same technique. > > Let me know what you think. I used looping > concepts but the music was NOT > done in real time. > > yours, Rick Walker > www.looppool.info > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 06:09:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0292F3BEC2; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RQAuc/opEvZ2Qu85WgMYW1WsK559r9+Riy/tY3kPdUOiuHVxGWur2QMs5D/v7pYRz4d9sZo254aXX/DFZRyM/sGjhOOdeW93QBVCgda/dxZx15LGiXchnTGSRl3nbU0jTn3bN3IGj8el9G0ZVT5zD9vuBUeYT/c1BFUDGWdhhbc= Message-ID: <913728d60604212309pf53bb1dk84a6df8f98521fad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:09:37 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: |()()ping video uploade In-Reply-To: <20060422060007.29146.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <20060422060007.29146.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:09:39 +0000 (UTC) very cool! i agree...electric blue is a great color for looping :) Charlie On 4/22/06, daniel stevenson wrote: > cool stuff Rick,i like the sounds,they gave me a > feeling of the ebb and flow of time...looking ahead to > the past kind of thing...and the video~ya gotta love > the color blue.especially electric blue. > to the future, > danny scary. > > > --- "loop.pool" wrote: > > > I purchased a cheap plastic, battery powered > > spirographic drawing > > toy yesterday (all of $4) and noticed it was UV > > active, > > so I went into my bathroom and turned out all the > > lights > > > and.............................NO......................that's > > not where I"m > > going with this story.......... > > > > ...........and holding a little pen UV light in my > > mouth, the spirograph in > > my hand > > with my finger on the on/off button I made a little > > 30 second video loop > > on my terrible Radio Shack camera. > > > > Anyway, I put some music from my upcoming CD > > against it and used some > > cheapo effects and made a little looping video for > > everyone. > > > > If you care to see it, it's at > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXzX9J6TPz0Q > > > > I'm really into these 30 second loops that this > > camera makes. The fidelity > > is terrible > > and I rather like it. There is another video at > > my YouTube page using the > > same technique. > > > > Let me know what you think. I used looping > > concepts but the music was NOT > > done in real time. > > > > yours, Rick Walker > > www.looppool.info > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 06:13:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B9733BEB2; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=UEq1NIDLrExJzEMfI3AjYuDMQmCBJSqK4fLVW8Sy+QS7dpLp1j4+IjHBJVbMvaLSxvOhL1mQnOScBtsuAYCan20HxODXearut1gGC071OJWJ07ei4JIdPWabEjzhrKN6/a8S2LbLQJKMIukbs3K/KpYnaInfkGZdKiu5Q7Zc1U4= Message-ID: <913728d60604212313o39dcd4e2hfc473c6a2030b76@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:13:34 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Electrix Filter Factory MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi! I was just wondering what everybody thought of the Electrix Filter factory...the vids on the website sound pretty cool, but i have also heard people say that they aren't as good as they are cracked up to be...I'd be using it with my bass, so anyone have any experience with the filter factory? Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 07:14:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37C6D3BEC7; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 07:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Wuju8aur8SXcRhyOcPjcD8i7CyEbRb2IMw05h+wnYMyblj8fD41Kz6SRtI7Y9AJB8JF/SvFUIS5lkXnhjxPh56BCYOnLk92w1Zy534z8SI8MPay/JdYkUF5xRuZNr7vSeFaJQMsDOnEgTR6k2V7EORNNoH8uzBodaoycoBMkZpg= In-Reply-To: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <43E955E9-8EC3-4834-AB94-C9BF7003E740@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: |()()ping video uploade Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:14:16 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 07:14:22 +0000 (UTC) On 22 apr 2006, at 07.36, loop.pool wrote: > made a little looping video for everyone Very nice, Rick! Is the mono sound caused by YouTube video compressing format? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 07:56:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8A0B3BEAF; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 07:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on smtp2.ruc.dk X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: Message-ID: <4449E18A.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:55:54 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: |()()ping video uploade References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <43E955E9-8EC3-4834-AB94-C9BF7003E740@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43E955E9-8EC3-4834-AB94-C9BF7003E740@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 07:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On 22 apr 2006, at 07.36, loop.pool wrote: >> made a little looping video for everyone > > > Very nice, Rick! Is the mono sound caused by YouTube video compressing > format? All YouTube videos are mono. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 08:13:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 518DB3BEC7; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:10:31 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to the AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <4449E4F7.1050505@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:13:45 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ================================================================================ My next stint on the AM/FM Show will at 6:00 am EDT / GMT-4 in less than two hours from now. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 08:27:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 367A93BED2; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005501c665e6$a0d0cdc0$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "INFO at mark francombe" To: Subject: Re: Electrix Filter Factory Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:27:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Unsent: 1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01C665F7.63535150" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:27:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C665F7.63535150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes Charlie I use one all the time! I think they are great, but probably = NOT=20 for the Hi Fi enthusiast. They are a bit hissy, and distort pretty = easily,=20 especially with high Q on the filter... But for me that IS kinda the=20 point... they add some dirt, of the 303 variety. The Random LFO is = great, as=20 is the Envelope follower. However I have one major gripe, that means that I may wish to sell mine, = if=20 you/anyone are/is interested.(300 bucks anyone... shit its going CHEAP = on=20 Ebay... guess Im keeping mine).. ITS TWO U HIGH...but it really doesnt = DO=20 that much, its a filter!!! It should have been 1 U at most!!! So as far as my rack is concerned, its taking up too much room, as is = all=20 the Electrix stuff, so my rack really looks like a Electrix Advert (With = Repeater and MOFX too) so I am willing to lose mine and replace with a 1 = U=20 alternative.. leaving space for another U of audio fun for all the=20 familly!!! GREAT SOUND BAD SIZE M. mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for = www.furthernoise.org=20 and works at www.transformlearning.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:13 AM Subject: Electrix Filter Factory Hi! I was just wondering what everybody thought of the Electrix Filter factory...the vids on the website sound pretty cool, but i have also heard people say that they aren't as good as they are cracked up to be...I'd be using it with my bass, so anyone have any experience with the filter factory? Charlie --=20 ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 15833 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. 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Yes Charlie I=20 use one all the time! I think they are great, but probably NOT
for = the Hi Fi=20 enthusiast. They are a bit hissy,  and distort pretty easily,=20
especially with high Q on the filter... But for me that IS kinda the =
point... they add some dirt, of the 303 variety. The Random LFO is = great, as=20
is the Envelope follower.

However I have one major gripe, = that means=20 that I may wish to sell mine, if
you/anyone are/is interested.(300 = bucks=20 anyone... shit its going CHEAP on
Ebay... guess Im keeping mine).. = ITS TWO U=20 HIGH...but it really doesnt DO
that much, its a filter!!! It should = have=20 been 1 U at most!!!

So as far as my rack is concerned, its taking = up too=20 much room, as is all
the Electrix stuff, so my rack really looks = like a=20 Electrix Advert (With
Repeater and MOFX too) so I am willing to lose = mine=20 and replace with a 1 U
alternative.. leaving space for another U of = audio=20 fun for all the
familly!!!

GREAT SOUND
BAD=20 SIZE

M.


mark francombe
marks website is at = www.markfrancombe.com he=20 writes for www.furthernoise.org
and works at www.transformlearning.com
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Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 = 8:13=20 AM
Subject: Electrix Filter Factory


Hi!

I was just=20 wondering what everybody thought of the Electrix Filter
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------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C665F7.63535150-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 09:15:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88A4D3BED2; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00cc01c665ed$480e2960$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:15:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've just had a personal letter from someone inside Electrix and this looks like the real deal. We'll still have to wait a few weeks I imagine but they are definitely planning an official release soon. Anyone have an inkling what the changes are to the mark 2 software? I also can't wait to see what they've done with their other wonderful products. Personally, I think the MoFx, Filter Factory and Warp Factory have been under utilized. There are so many cool things you can do with their ability to synchronize the rhythm of effects and to play the effects (both turning them on and turning them off with the momentary button) like a drum machine. One of my favorite tricks is to put a telephone frequency onto a sound with the engage button and then use the momentary switch to suddenly take it off on judicious beats in a breakbeat rhythm. That and synchronize all of your loops to it.................way cool. It's a damn shame that you can't get on an airplane anymore with anything larger than a 6 space rack. I can only do my high tech shows within driving distance of my home. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 09:19:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C72FC3BEB5; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <013601c665ed$ebb2b590$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: |()()ping video uploade Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:19:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Per asked: "Very nice, Rick! Is the mono sound caused by YouTube video compressing format?" Thanks, and thanks for all the nice comments. Not sure, but I imagine so....................it was certainly recorded in stereo. Rick. ps If anyone is interested, I can upload the uncompressed file to a secret webpage for anyone to down load. Just let me know and I'll do it I did a more minimalist video with the same spirograph and was thinking about putting it up to. I got really inspired last night making it and wrote and entire piece of music in one sitting and put a vid to it. What an amazing age we live in, don't you all think? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 10:17:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28DD43BEB3; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nQE9nU1LR5tRBsMOquIWBe4TGREoS2yjCAGeZDFYtmeGEU989OSH+kjtH78PyV5w9Hn2TPu3yOK/B3axZ6TUDWGOUWxUbV2DM9RU86u/uAnhhgxZgtmfjYL+k9cxiOHm4UyFccFZPwH4bERkXQzVMRtWqC6ASZLN8eMPRBsYjuo= ; Message-ID: <20060422101737.17824.qmail@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:17:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: |()()ping video uploade To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-648388377-1145701057=:14299" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:17:39 +0000 (UTC) --0-648388377-1145701057=:14299 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit awesome stuff rick! cheers Luis "loop.pool" wrote: I purchased a cheap plastic, battery powered spirographic drawing toy yesterday (all of $4) and noticed it was UV active, so I went into my bathroom and turned out all the lights and.............................NO......................that's not where I"m going with this story.......... ...........and holding a little pen UV light in my mouth, the spirograph in my hand with my finger on the on/off button I made a little 30 second video loop on my terrible Radio Shack camera. Anyway, I put some music from my upcoming CD against it and used some cheapo effects and made a little looping video for everyone. If you care to see it, it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzX9J6TPz0Q I'm really into these 30 second loops that this camera makes. The fidelity is terrible and I rather like it. There is another video at my YouTube page using the same technique. Let me know what you think. I used looping concepts but the music was NOT done in real time. yours, Rick Walker www.looppool.info --------------------------------- Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day --0-648388377-1145701057=:14299 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
awesome stuff rick!
cheers
Luis

"loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I purchased a cheap plastic, battery powered spirographic drawing
toy yesterday (all of $4) and noticed it was UV active,
so I went into my bathroom and turned out all the lights
and.............................NO......................that's not where I"m
going with this story..........

...........and holding a little pen UV light in my mouth, the spirograph in
my hand
with my finger on the on/off button I made a little 30 second video loop
on my terrible Radio Shack camera.

Anyway, I put some music from my upcoming CD against it and used some
cheapo effects and made a little looping video for everyone.

If you care to see it, it's at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzX9J6TPz0Q

I'm really into these 30 second loops that this camera makes. The fidelity
is terrible
and I rather like it. There is another video at my YouTube page using the
same technique.

Let me know what you think. I used looping concepts but the music was NOT
done in real time.

yours, Rick Walker
www.looppool.info


Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day --0-648388377-1145701057=:14299-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 13:19:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EBE33BEB5; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pplCkGkYw3DMpPoOI0eUugP0vlI8j50SAw4CTRR2Msb3QCji2t+srm7myfyGNqCwSp5thCvPMc4LaHYJwWCf+c5sQdVlvmWFeP+3zYbtpuB8/FRoFszIdpy1r6R+zXrzY1Mzpw99nMwUPHkRcUjtBlBd6IqTliy/AG6oVj/5HQ4= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604220619k1a54f38peb8cbdf6171e2e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:19:37 +0100 From: "David Morton" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <90hTWB.A.iEF.q1iSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:19:39 +0000 (UTC) On 4/20/06, Per Boysen wrote: > I recently bought an iPod with a 30 GB drive. There is a rumor saying tha= t > both Apple and Griffin are soon to release mic recording adapters for iPo= d. That rumour has been around for over two years, and is the reason I'm still using a 1st generation 5GB iPod. I keep saying I'll upgrade it when the rumour comes true. :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 13:42:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85E9C3BECF; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:38:48 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for April 22, 2006 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <444A31E8.9070607@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:42:08 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2006/060422.html I host the Saturday AM/FM Show every other week where I play electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #86 April 22, 2006. During Phase I of this show, I continued the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. I also played the music of Robert Rich who will be in concert tonight in Philadelphia at The Gatherings. Robert Rich - http://robertrich.com The Gatherings - http://thegatherings.org Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================ Steve Roach and Somewhere * Ascention of Shadows (Projekt) vidnaObmana VA [F. D. Project] Harmony in Space Edition #8 Sampler (Groove) VA [Edgar Froese] Drunkem Mozart in the Edition #8 Sampler (Groove) Desert VA [Serge Devadder] Benthic Predators Edition #8 Sampler (Groove) Steve Roach and Somewhere * Ascention of Shadows (Projekt) vidnaObmana Robert Rich Electric Ladder Electric Ladder (Soundscape) Robert Rich Mantis Intentions Brstiary (Release) Steve Roach and Somewhere * Ascention of Shadows (Projekt) vidnaObmana Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================ Paradiso Ancient Waterways Shaman's Trance (5th Element) Chris Field Blue Sub-Conscious (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================ Gigur Pasajero Fin Del Tiempo (none) Magellan Gorilla with a Pickfork Impossible Figures (InsideOut) Magellan Killer of Hope Impossible Figures (InsideOut) Glass Hammer Behind the GReat Beyond Shadowlands (Arion) 8:00 am * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) I return to the AM/FM Show on May 13. On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Bill ========================================================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT (GMT-4:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm ========================================================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ========================================================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 13:48:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C77B3BED8; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <00cc01c665ed$480e2960$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <00cc01c665ed$480e2960$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-17--68419276 Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:48:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749) X-Server-Quench: ae22fa58-d206-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:48:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-17--68419276 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed you can't??? i've been flying around with a gator powered 8space. i put it in a TV box so it is impossible to pick up and throw and it's been ok in the hold so far. and keep it under 70lbs. On Apr 22, 2006, at 2:15 AM, loop.pool wrote: > It's a damn shame that you can't get on an airplane anymore with > anything larger than a 6 space rack. > I can only do my high tech shows within driving distance of my home. --Apple-Mail-17--68419276 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 you can't??? i've been flying = around with a gator powered 8space. i put it in a TV box so it is = impossible to pick up and throw and it's been ok in the hold so far. and = keep it under 70lbs.=A0

On Apr 22, 2006, at = 2:15 AM, loop.pool wrote:

It's a damn shame that you = can't get on an airplane anymore with anything larger than a 6 space = rack.

I can = only do my high tech shows within driving distance of my = home.


= --Apple-Mail-17--68419276-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 13:50:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 026833BECA; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=SZAXr7Cq0AJ70Sxt0DSxxwhH5ezHa9dpwN2S/R8/IHn0Nt0QHDvUMIXDHVhBD7hnRRmNASQ6Hw8WeMFJVpVzuOuzPMCGXSp7PeM0DOkJCCM6LSDfE492DvGDN3k98bXUFxQRAcJNMHJCkJwLduxhksiFiHLMNT/EciD4Au3ySXM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <353e2ed80604220619k1a54f38peb8cbdf6171e2e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> <353e2ed80604220619k1a54f38peb8cbdf6171e2e0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9331D938-FB83-4201-8BF6-797435467F45@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: solid state recorders Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:50:46 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:50:52 +0000 (UTC) > On 4/20/06, Per Boysen wrote: >> I recently bought an iPod with a 30 GB drive. There is a rumor >> saying that >> both Apple and Griffin are soon to release mic recording adapters >> for iPod. > On 22 apr 2006, at 15.19, David Morton wrote: > That rumour has been around for over two years, and is the reason I'm > still using a 1st generation 5GB iPod. I keep saying I'll upgrade it > when the rumour comes true. :-) This particular iPod model have not been around for two years, just a couple of months ;-) Maybe they are called "iPod Photo" or "iPod Video"? It's because of the big hard drive (no flash memory, as older models used) they look like a good deal for audio recording in at a non compressed format. But regarding the old iPod models you are perfectly right; there was the Linux hack and that Griffin or Belkin thingy available. If you still have a 1st generation iPod you can use the Linux hack to record full bandwidth audio on it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 14:00:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FC0D3BEDB; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:56:50 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #473 for April 20, 2006 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <444A3622.5060700@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: <_JY_hD.A.MzH.qbjSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:00:11 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/060420.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, webcasting on the internet, and simulcasting on WXLV 90.3 FM in Schnecksville at Lehigh Carbon Count Community College. Show #473 April 20, 2006 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Sequences electronic music magazine. The Featured CD at Midnight was the CD that came with issue #30. The Vinyl Starter was "Nada" by Peter Michael Hamel on Wergo Records and released in 1977. I also played the music of Robert Rich who will be in concert at The Gatherings on Saturday, April 22. Sequences - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/focus.html#apr The Gatherings - http://thegatherings.org PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================== Peter Michael Hamel Beyond the Wall of Nada (Wergo) Sleep * Detlef Keller Electronic Step 1 Harmonic Steps (Manikin) Saul Stokes Far Away, Further Vast (Foundry) Paul Ellis The Wind-up Synthesizers Silent Conversations (Groove) of the Glass Reich Robert Rich Poppy Fields Electric Ladder (Soundscape) Robert Rich Sky Tunnel Electric Ladder (Soundscape) Robert Rich Mantis Intentions Bestiary (Release) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ================================== VA [Ron Berry] Forgotten Temples Sequences No. 30 (emma) VA [MOIT] Nightscene Sequences No. 30 (emma) VA [Dolores Castro] So Much Sequences No. 30 (emma) VA [Bluetech] Elementary Particles Sequences No. 30 (emma) VA [Klangwelt] Beauty of Numbers Sequences No. 30 (emma) (reloaded) VA [Guido Meyers] Inner Soul Sequences No. 30 (emma) VA [Touch X Tone] Virgin Saw Sequences No. 30 (emma) VA [Barbara Zelinskia Tibel Bells Sequences No. 30 (emma) Van] 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Sequences magazine. The Featured CD at Midnight will be the CD that came with issue #31. The Vinyl Starter will be "Deluxe" by Harmonia on Brain Records and released in 1975. Bill =============================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville, on 92.9 FM, on Service Electric Cable, and on WXLV 90.3 FM in Schnecksville. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/podcasts.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 14:08:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D9E43BEDA; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Wd1yDtwHNGEI4y9JCSohOcMKk4E0zb9JkHm3OrhWkUC+CHrLcfcz9kdUFLTtorWWWqYN+ilkobPaUGMpeutP2oOdoTIO23sFTPUxBeh8AqCNdjLs9dOdQVvkcf8pJtvVKKSrvJSga8wF+dZ9j8x2rghZspfBs/AVLReB+diYrFg= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604220708o31c5cbem9d0514f68a1a29e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:08:14 +0100 From: "David Morton" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders In-Reply-To: <9331D938-FB83-4201-8BF6-797435467F45@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <00cb01c65c77$d41705a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <26ba8d120604101432q7aacbff6t9d5b23ab81c5e066@mail.gmail.com> <443AD722.9050609@rhein-zeitung.de> <26ba8d120604101653j872ee8fyce030d9499f82b13@mail.gmail.com> <44474D52.8030702@addcom.de> <66f9cc1e0604200415p15cd2e8fk61ddb8d6250c3a7c@mail.gmail.com> <353e2ed80604220619k1a54f38peb8cbdf6171e2e0@mail.gmail.com> <9331D938-FB83-4201-8BF6-797435467F45@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:08:15 +0000 (UTC) On 4/22/06, Per Boysen wrote: > It's because of the big hard drive (no flash memory, as older > models used) iPods have always had hard disks, right back to the 1st gen (the one I'm still using), which had a 5GB HD. iPod Shuffle and iPod Nano models have flash memory. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 14:23:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1CB93BED9; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <016201c66618$59095570$7c44fea9@Keith> From: "keith wilson" To: References: <005201c664ca$decb3ab0$0101a8c0@succubus> <097501c664cb$70fe23c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <5F38D663-7F18-49A6-9E87-2321A61B15B7@gmail.com> <000801c6652b$0760eeb0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <258868CB-6618-4695-A2E6-9340A544F756@gmail.com> <001301c66541$4de041e0$0207a8c0@eluk1> Subject: Re: Not Just the Fathead... Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:23:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC) hey, i think the fathead just increases sustain but not in an ebow kind of way. it looks quite similar to john pearce's device that attaches on to the headstock to help increase sustain. its more subtle than any sustainiac or ebow in that it returns a lot of the vibration caused by playing the strings to the soundboard not letting the vibrations occur in the neck hence enhancing the sonic life of the note. hope this makes sense. keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Goodman" To: Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:44 AM Subject: Re: Not Just the Fathead... > From: "Per Boysen" >> >> On 21 apr 2006, at 12.04, Stephen Goodman wrote: >> >>> Interesting contraption, one wonders what it would sound like with >>> either an e-Bow or a [vintage musical swell] the Gizmo...! >> >> Does the electromagnetic e-Bow string induction depend on mechanical >> headstock response? > > Well, I've found that some acoustic guitars just won't resonate so much, > though my experience is limited. I remember a Farrington that a friend > had once on a gig, he borrowed my e-Bow and couldn't make it do nuthin > audibly. For some reason the Oscar Schmidt acoustic I've got sings like a > mo-fo with e-Bow... so I am inclined to think, YES there is a physical > relationship between e-Bow use and the ability of a guitar to resonate. > Damn, wish I had the money to experiment with THAT: One acoustic-electric, > e-Bow and a Fathead. Hmm.. > >>> I'd be curious to see if when someone puts a Fathead on their guitar, >>> they publish some sound files comparing the before and after... >> >> Yes, it would be interesting with an A/B test ;-) > > Those on the list about to pursue this inspired line of experimentation > are therefore required to report to us all! :) > > (off for now, I've got the final parts for my new PCs! Let the building > commence! Details later.) > Stephen Goodman > > * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff > * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack > * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! > * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 15:10:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21FD03BEEC; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003701c6661e$da659420$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "INFO at mark francombe" To: References: <00cc01c665ed$480e2960$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: News From Electrix Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:10:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response X-Unsent: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:10:17 +0000 (UTC) From: "loop.pool" It's a damn shame that you can't get on an airplane anymore with = anything larger than a 6 space rack. Is this TRUE?? WTF?? What not in the cargo? Blimey, we used to go on = tour=20 with basses and guitars and racks and just pay a little excess baggage.. = SO=20 for me to play at a LoopStock on the west coast I would bring what? an = edp=20 and a Banjo??/ Mark=20 --=20 ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 15833 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 15:13:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B9EF3BEFC; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: airplane baggage Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:12:52 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <003701c6661e$da659420$5a01a8c0@mark> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZmHt2g8OzYn9BCTAOFnWiFY4VoEQAABrMw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:13:00 +0000 (UTC) > Is this TRUE?? WTF?? What not in the cargo? Blimey, we used > to go on tour with basses and guitars and racks and just pay > a little excess baggage.. SO for me to play at a LoopStock on > the west coast I would bring what? an edp and a Banjo??/ As I have flown hundreds of upper-class limousines to another continent, I'd say no, it's not true. But for playing Y2K6, I'll bring a laptop, a faderbox, an audio/MIDI interface and a foot controller and hope that someone has a keyboard and a string instrument to spare ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 15:15:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BFF13BEF1; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,146,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="163462867:sNHT19227072" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3d2ec75b4003ae82c84f098aa8c288d1@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: |()()ping video uploade Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:16:23 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Very cool Rick. I enjoyed it. You get my vote for the MOST MILEAGE FOR LEAST BUDGET Oscar. Cheers, Ted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzX9J6TPz0Q From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 15:27:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E08A53BEE1; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3d4.e8c453.317ba55b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:27:23 EDT Subject: Re: Any guitarist here using a Fathead? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3d4.e8c453.317ba55b_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:27:30 +0000 (UTC) --part1_3d4.e8c453.317ba55b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/21/06 6:11:59 PM, billwalker@baymoon.com writes: > I have a fat finger, right here in my 501 jeans > as the young lady in zurick said after seeing your flirtatious poses ".....that's not sexy!"..... although as you remember, i disagreed with her!.....you big beast.....:)m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_3d4.e8c453.317ba55b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/21/06 6:11:59 PM, billwalker@baymoon.com writes:


I have a fat finger,=20= right here in my 501 jeans

as the young lady in zurick said after seeing your flirtatious poses  =20= ".....that's not sexy!".....
although as you remember, i disagreed with her!.....you big beast.....:)m



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 --part1_3d4.e8c453.317ba55b_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 15:37:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C5213BEEA; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:37:37 EDT Subject: Re: solid state recorders To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:37:42 +0000 (UTC) --part1_3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/22/06 12:53:07 AM, mech@m3ch.net writes: > I've found it's just as convenient to just stick a 1gb USB thumb > drive in it. > and bypass the ipod????? www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/22/06 12:53:07 AM, mech@m3ch.net writes:


I've found it's just=20= as convenient to just stick a 1gb USB thumb
drive in it.


and bypass the ipod?????



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 --part1_3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 15:48:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D5F13BEE1; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <377.1690ecc.317baa5d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:48:45 EDT Subject: Re: solid state recorders To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_377.1690ecc.317baa5d_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:48:52 +0000 (UTC) --part1_377.1690ecc.317baa5d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 4/22/06 9:51:00 AM, perboysen@gmail.com writes: > If you=A0 > still have a 1st generation iPod you can use the Linux hack to record=A0 > full bandwidth audio on it. >=20 linux hack ? was is das?.....m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_377.1690ecc.317baa5d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 4/22/06 9:51:00 AM, perboysen@gmail.com writes:


If you=A0
still have a 1st generation iPod you can use the Linux hack to record=A0
full bandwidth audio on it.


linux hack ? was is das?.....m



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 --part1_377.1690ecc.317baa5d_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 16:24:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 004613BED9; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=l4l7sLpP1WMdqG1ZZdCIhhFfJq6fzJxJKMIFdUTMkog31ZyIFk1Yb7IlGybGtzamip2D9T+61ULXDfIziOG/yRMvWufG+VFNVGu4kHiH2N9bkzslS8XOBsr7DWoxKA5RzQcR6La14KPTXCYD751H/IqpVMaptb9Gjli6MRWsFGs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <377.1690ecc.317baa5d@aol.com> References: <377.1690ecc.317baa5d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4BF171B6-515B-42B3-AF6F-29697676ECA5@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: solid state recorders Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:24:27 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <3d1Za.A.YDB.BjlSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:24:34 +0000 (UTC) >> If you >> still have a 1st generation iPod you can use the Linux hack to record >> full bandwidth audio on it. > > On 22 apr 2006, at 17.48, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > linux hack ? was is das?.....m You install Linux on the iPod. you should then be able to choose if you want to boot into Linux or the ordinary Apple iPod system. Here's an article on the matter: http://www.macworld.com/2005/05/secrets/julygeekfactor/index.php Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 16:26:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98F253BEE4; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1@aol.com> References: <3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:25:35 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: solid state recorders Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:26:14 +0000 (UTC) At 11:37 AM -0400 4/22/06, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/22/06 12:53:07 AM, mech@m3ch.net writes: >> >>I've found it's just as convenient to just stick a 1gb USB thumb >>drive in it. > >and bypass the ipod????? Yep. The iKey outputs to a USB jack. It'll recognize pretty much any sort of USB storage device you connect to that jack: thumb drive, iPod (using its USB sync cable), whatever. After recording, you simply plug your chosen media into a computer to transfer/edit the files. With the thumb drive, the whole setup is nice and tiny. With the iPod, you're juggling two devices, but you can record for, like, a day. ;) --m. -- _______ "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 16:42:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7458F3BEE0; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=gLDq0/177PCQGx0IFP/xSiFmurcVa3egRjDY+QzoNe3TA7KjLET8oa97zMC7NaRszUcqpxoTqX8N0CWThXOTBbvceUnx1Ng5v7ka1hPoRThrb1terb8ePefhD0vsIfzCZxR7NpvQ80Q56dPjyVbJzq0aPF1gP1KNwIJRAeKzUnY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: References: <3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6E3F9F75-407B-44FD-AF5A-79FB3A76DEA8@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: solid state recorders Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:42:45 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:42:51 +0000 (UTC) On 22 apr 2006, at 18.25, mech wrote: > Yep. The iKey outputs to a USB jack. It'll recognize pretty much > any sort of USB storage device you connect to that jack: thumb > drive, iPod (using its USB sync cable), whatever. After recording, > you simply plug your chosen media into a computer to transfer/edit > the files. This looks as an awesome piece of gear! Thanks for the tip! I already own a 1 GB USB stick, so I just need to pick up some line level mic. Seems as the price dropped by half recently ;-) http://www.platinum-records.com/Gemini-I-Key-Portable-USB-recorder- prod7519.htm Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 16:47:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DE753BEDC; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:47:04 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: airplane baggage Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:47:38 +0000 (UTC) At 5:12 PM +0200 4/22/06, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > Is this TRUE?? WTF?? What not in the cargo? Blimey, we used >> to go on tour with basses and guitars and racks and just pay >> a little excess baggage.. SO for me to play at a LoopStock on >> the west coast I would bring what? an edp and a Banjo??/ > >As I have flown hundreds of upper-class limousines to another continent, I'd >say no, it's not true. But for playing Y2K6, I'll bring a laptop, a >faderbox, an audio/MIDI interface and a foot controller and hope that >someone has a keyboard and a string instrument to spare ;) Yeah, it would probably be best to err on the side of caution. The airlines have evidently decided very recently that charging for overweight and excess baggage can be a new revenue stream for them. And they've all pretty much fallen lockstep into the same pattern at pretty much the same time too, from what I've just seen. Our whole family flew across the country out to Seattle last month. We figured it would be easier all around to have one larger bag for three people, rather than lots of smaller ones. Our one large bag weighed in at ~65 pounds, and we got charged a fee at the airport for that single bag being overweight. This was despite the fact that we could have been within our rights to take along three bags apiece, each weighing 50 pounds. That would have been a total of 450 pounds in luggage. It looked like several people were getting hit with this, though, and no amount of arguing could get the airline to waive the fee, either. We flew Southwest (urgh!) this time, but a quick survey of the other airlines showed that they all seemed to be implementing similar charges as of March. Oh, and in case you didn't catch it above, it looks like the max bag weight has now been lowered from 70 to 50 pounds per bag. Another hidden charge with which air carriers can gouge their customers, so watch the weight on those racks. :P --m. -- _______ "Snakes, as the great philosophers used to say, on a motherfucking plane...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:04:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A20F3BEE6; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=bvyjXq/oVTzvrWPgANelEZhcCMLcyvvQHqFgGgLxwnjhbiZcHK+0cvtpe9qMynW4KKg2G6YuQMi71w6Xywq7J7VbEmBC3UMkH9hbLOf6jjNhm3bJu0OaF1bk0asaa3suNhubIpKIlvE0usgSgab1koirlhz8nrCFRvBCzZhekPU= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: airplane baggage Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:03:57 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:04:09 +0000 (UTC) On 22 apr 2006, at 18.47, mech wrote: > The airlines have evidently decided very recently that charging for =20= > overweight and excess baggage can be a new revenue stream for them. =20= > And they've all pretty much fallen lockstep into the same pattern =20 > at pretty much the same time too, from what I've just seen. And it may also differ from airport to airport, how well they follow =20 the regulations. When I flew from Stockholm to Z=FCrich the Swedish =20 airport staff just smiled and told me "no problem, you're fine with =20 that trunk", but when I was going the other way the staff in Z=FCrich =20= hit me with a USD 65 overweight fee for the very same suitcase. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:04:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE6223BEF8; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6E3F9F75-407B-44FD-AF5A-79FB3A76DEA8@gmail.com> References: <3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1@aol.com> <6E3F9F75-407B-44FD-AF5A-79FB3A76DEA8@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:03:41 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: solid state recorders Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:04:15 +0000 (UTC) At 6:42 PM +0200 4/22/06, Per Boysen wrote: > >This looks as an awesome piece of gear! Thanks for the tip! I >already own a 1 GB USB stick, so I just need to pick up some line >level mic. Seems as the price dropped by half recently ;-) >http://www.platinum-records.com/Gemini-I-Key-Portable-USB-recorder-prod7519.htm No problem, Per! Although, credit where credit is due, it was Duncan's post a couple months back that hipped me to it. And Paul Mimlitsch did a quickie review a little bit afterwards, if you want to look through the archives for a second opinion. :) It was nice to see the drop in price too. I originally picked mine up for ~$150 USD at the local Guitar Center after I forced them to do a price match, but I knew I was taking it on the chin for the convenience of walking out the door with it. Now that they're sub-$100 bucks, the iKey ought to be flying off the shelves... --m. -- _______ "Behind every fear lies a wish, don't you think...?" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:09:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E332B3BEDE; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: airplane baggage Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:09:27 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000901c6662f$8349dd70$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcZmLsU4SMZEUJ6SSUG8LUoLtQNfQgAAHBxw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:09:33 +0000 (UTC) usually, the clerks at check-in have a "being nice" range over the = official limit in which they can decide to charge you or not, and which is also = based on the total load of the flight in question. So if you're on a flight = which is not completely booked out and you behave nicely, you usually get away with a little excess baggage > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20 > Gesendet: Samstag, 22. April 2006 19:04 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: airplane baggage >=20 > On 22 apr 2006, at 18.47, mech wrote: >=20 > > The airlines have evidently decided very recently that charging for=20 > > overweight and excess baggage can be a new revenue stream for them. > > And they've all pretty much fallen lockstep into the same=20 > pattern at=20 > > pretty much the same time too, from what I've just seen. >=20 >=20 > And it may also differ from airport to airport, how well they=20 > follow the regulations. When I flew from Stockholm to Z=FCrich=20 > the Swedish airport staff just smiled and told me "no=20 > problem, you're fine with that trunk", but when I was going=20 > the other way the staff in Z=FCrich hit me with a USD 65=20 > overweight fee for the very same suitcase. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:14:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68EE63BEE4; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:13:36 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: airplane baggage Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5yNgU.A.8_D.hRmSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:14:09 +0000 (UTC) At 7:03 PM +0200 4/22/06, Per Boysen wrote: >On 22 apr 2006, at 18.47, mech wrote: > >>The airlines have evidently decided very=20 >>recently that charging for overweight and=20 >>excess baggage can be a new revenue stream for=20 >>them. And they've all pretty much fallen=20 >>lockstep into the same pattern at pretty much=20 >>the same time too, from what I've just seen. > >And it may also differ from airport to airport,=20 >how well they follow the regulations. When I=20 >flew from Stockholm to Z=FCrich the Swedish=20 >airport staff just smiled and told me "no=20 >problem, you're fine with that trunk", but when=20 >I was going the other way the staff in Z=FCrich=20 >hit me with a USD 65 overweight fee for the very=20 >same suitcase. Oh yeah, good point. We almost got hit with that=20 going to Japan last year. Luggage was fine on=20 the trip over, but overweight on the way back=20 (although, if anything, our bags were lighter=20 because we shipped some stuff back). Then they=20 sold us a box ($10 USD for a cardboard box,=20 hrmmmmm) to offload a couple kilos of clothing=20 into. We just wrote it off as an "international" thing=20 at the time, thinking that Japan merely had=20 different regs than the US. But it looks as if=20 domestic US airlines/airports are getting into=20 that game now too. =46orewarned is forearmed, though... --m. -- _______ "Now Simulcast on Crazy People's Fillings" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:32:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89DE63BEE7; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: Re: airplane baggage Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:32:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: <_KA81.A.63E.AjmSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:32:48 +0000 (UTC) I have a Storm Case.....(I like the latches better than Pelican) http://www.cases4less.com/detail_storm_2950.html After getting it I went to The Foam Shop and purchased some closed cell=20= foam (no pick and pluk for me), which I cut to tightly fit my=20 electronic gear and leave an inch of foam around all sides. It weighs=20 in at 48 pounds. Andrew Pask has the same, but his weighs in at 58 and=20= he always gets charged for domestic flights. BTW, I've seen my case=20 launched out of x-ray machines by those spinning tire things (about=20 died the first time I saw that), thrown by trained gorillas at=20 airports....so far, so good...but I would never check my trumpet.... Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:35:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B01BC3BEF4; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:34:58 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: airplane baggage Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Doesn't it piss you off when you get charged overage on your bags, but the 600 pound gorrilla in front of you pays the same for his seat as you?? >At 5:12 PM +0200 4/22/06, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >> > Is this TRUE?? WTF?? What not in the cargo? Blimey, we used >>> to go on tour with basses and guitars and racks and just pay >>> a little excess baggage.. SO for me to play at a LoopStock on >>> the west coast I would bring what? an edp and a Banjo??/ >> >>As I have flown hundreds of upper-class limousines to another continent, I'd >>say no, it's not true. But for playing Y2K6, I'll bring a laptop, a >>faderbox, an audio/MIDI interface and a foot controller and hope that >>someone has a keyboard and a string instrument to spare ;) > >Yeah, it would probably be best to err on the side of caution. The >airlines have evidently decided very recently that charging for >overweight and excess baggage can be a new revenue stream for them. >And they've all pretty much fallen lockstep into the same pattern at >pretty much the same time too, from what I've just seen. > >Our whole family flew across the country out to Seattle last month. >We figured it would be easier all around to have one larger bag for >three people, rather than lots of smaller ones. Our one large bag >weighed in at ~65 pounds, and we got charged a fee at the airport >for that single bag being overweight. This was despite the fact >that we could have been within our rights to take along three bags >apiece, each weighing 50 pounds. That would have been a total of >450 pounds in luggage. It looked like several people were getting >hit with this, though, and no amount of arguing could get the >airline to waive the fee, either. > >We flew Southwest (urgh!) this time, but a quick survey of the other >airlines showed that they all seemed to be implementing similar >charges as of March. > >Oh, and in case you didn't catch it above, it looks like the max bag >weight has now been lowered from 70 to 50 pounds per bag. Another >hidden charge with which air carriers can gouge their customers, so >watch the weight on those racks. :P > > --m. > >-- >_______ >"Snakes, as the great philosophers used to say, on a motherfucking plane...." -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:46:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A17913BEE1; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=MVaOhddfp2QjgDO3QNTmIG5j5mPScAeWvB+eKeGu1WwAUI4iN1zZ16oNyYl6W/MFv4Cgv33B5t+6ix+0+Q9tmRdj+/XnFFBkoNHOspbSJBtkhtgg8K8RlBNZR9KkkgD6wfMc3mQLgkh5lXYD6uXk+V+8OQesxseR6KPrHHJrneU= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: airplane baggage Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:45:58 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:46:13 +0000 (UTC) On 22 apr 2006, at 19.34, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Doesn't it piss you off when you get charged overage on your bags, > but the 600 pound gorrilla in front of you pays the same for his > seat as you?? He, he.... never thought of it that way... but you're actually right! Since I'm a particularly small and light human I should really get clearance for more luggage. Damn, that sucks! ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:49:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2B273BEF0; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <8307240f78013e9ebd4a96ed61ac4964@pfmentum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: Re: airplane baggage Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:49:19 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:49:21 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 22, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Doesn't it piss you off when you get charged overage on your bags, but=20= > the 600 pound gorrilla in front of you pays the same for his seat as=20= > you?? You are not alone on this, I remembered reading something about this=20 and quickly googled these.... http://tinyurl.com/odudz and it is also costing us more fuel..... http://tinyurl.com/plyc7 Me? It doesn't bother me...my case is under 50lbs. :-) Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:54:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5422B3BEFC; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TD39OtumT8/88B0dT4y4d3qpZ3QpCu7p/T2fSZCTcbutkEQlmDreTeh2wSzgpdF/BmT5TfUqJiwDCxyUcVe4HaVgsTkC5KLG7/YMtd4EW/KGU2tZdeUukcIT1M6+dK6bJemSsWdbYO+7APraMHIiXISAcRFeF4LZ4TEMrk4n12s= Message-ID: <913728d60604221054k4d854aa1vcd89940e8afecd50@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:54:37 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix Filter Factory In-Reply-To: <005501c665e6$a0d0cdc0$5a01a8c0@mark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <005501c665e6$a0d0cdc0$5a01a8c0@mark> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:54:39 +0000 (UTC) yeah, i have been bidding, and they go for a little over a hundred bucks...I'd kinda like to find one for 120 shipped, but i keep getting sniped on ebay...but i have been looking for a cool rackmount filter, i am not concerned about size, but i do know that the FF looks cool :) and i do like my MoFX, I thought they might make a good pair :) Charlie On 4/22/06, INFO at mark francombe wrote: > > Yes Charlie I use one all the time! I think they are great, but probably = NOT > for the Hi Fi enthusiast. They are a bit hissy, and distort pretty easil= y, > especially with high Q on the filter... But for me that IS kinda the > point... they add some dirt, of the 303 variety. The Random LFO is great,= as > is the Envelope follower. > > However I have one major gripe, that means that I may wish to sell mine, = if > you/anyone are/is interested.(300 bucks anyone... shit its going CHEAP on > Ebay... guess Im keeping mine).. ITS TWO U HIGH...but it really doesnt DO > that much, its a filter!!! It should have been 1 U at most!!! > > So as far as my rack is concerned, its taking up too much room, as is all > the Electrix stuff, so my rack really looks like a Electrix Advert (With > Repeater and MOFX too) so I am willing to lose mine and replace with a 1 = U > alternative.. leaving space for another U of audio fun for all the > familly!!! > > GREAT SOUND > BAD SIZE > > M. > > > mark francombe > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.= org > and works at www.transformlearning.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie Milkey" > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:13 AM > Subject: Electrix Filter Factory > > > Hi! > > I was just wondering what everybody thought of the Electrix Filter > factory...the vids on the website sound pretty cool, but i have also > heard people say that they aren't as good as they are cracked up to > be...I'd be using it with my bass, so anyone have any experience with > the filter factory? > > > Charlie > > -- > ---------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 15833 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! > > mark francombe > marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.= org > and works at www.transformlearning.com > ________________________________ > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 15833 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:57:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB1053BEF7; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749) In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: off topic: airplane baggage Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:57:40 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749) X-Server-Quench: 80a0e687-d229-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:57:46 +0000 (UTC) I don't know, I travel a lot and just pay the the excess baggage charges. It's faster than freight and cheaper than a music moving company like soundmoves (their minimums are around $1000). here's what I check in: 1) cello in flight case, huge! 2) 9space rack in TV box 3) large suitcase for pedals, extras + merch 4) small suitcase for personal stuff (i'll carry this on if they let me) that's 4 items and 3 of them are heavy and oversize. the amount i'm charged varies depending on the airline and the person working the desk. if a piece is over 32kg they can refuse to take it. i had to redistribute items once to make each piece under 32. also, if you're on one of those little regional planes (puddle jumpers i call them), the CRJ , they can refuse if the plane is full. i got a flight to montreal from NYC and had to wait for an emptier flight in order for them to take the gear. of all the airlines, jetblue and alaska always seem the most accomodating. virgin is the most restrictive. if i can i try to put my personal stuff in a carry on, so i only check 3 bags. but virgin's carryon restrictions are 6kg!! and, for reference, this is what i paid under different airlines in the last two months: jetblue: $100 (always the same when they charge me. once they didn't) alaska: $50 (also always the same) virgin atlantic to the UK: $140 virgin from the UK: 180 pounds (ouch!) british airways to the UK: $140 british airways from the UK: 90 pounds united: $125 so yes, it adds up. but given what i'm checking in i think it's pretty reasonable!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 17:59:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E30B3BEF8; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Electrix Filter Factory Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:59:19 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000b01c66636$7b141a60$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <913728d60604221054k4d854aa1vcd89940e8afecd50@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcZmNdM+V3dh70QLSEu5P/GKrRHOUQAACWhg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:59:26 +0000 (UTC) If I remember correctly, we had a Filter Factory discussion here some time ago - you might search the archive. I threw out mine mainly because it takes up too much space (and for the same reason also got rid of the MAM RS3, which is only 1HU). What I really liked about the FF were the momentary buttons and the (for my application) great distortion. If you're working with a drum machine, chances are you won't need any other effects besides a filter factory and a vortex. You might also want to take a look at the RS3. It features three parallel Korg bandpass filters, LFO and envelope follower. It's got a very characteristic, very unique sound unlike all those run-of-the-mill lowpass sounds. Rainer > yeah, i have been bidding, and they go for a little over a > hundred bucks...I'd kinda like to find one for 120 shipped, > but i keep getting sniped on ebay...but i have been looking > for a cool rackmount filter, i am not concerned about size, > but i do know that the FF looks cool :) and i do like my > MoFX, I thought they might make a good pair :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 18:56:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD1633BECC; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:53:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: airplane baggage Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:56:35 +0000 (UTC) At 1:47 AM +0900 4/23/06, mech wrote: >Yeah, it would probably be best to err on the side of caution. The >airlines have evidently decided very recently that charging for >overweight and excess baggage can be a new revenue stream for them. >And they've all pretty much fallen lockstep into the same pattern at >pretty much the same time too, from what I've just seen. Uh-oh. I don't like the sound of that. I got dinged by Delta for an excess baggage charge on the return leg of a round trip, after being able to carry my guitar on board outbound. Coming home form Jamaica a couple of weeks ago I was required to check my guitar at DFW, after carrying it on board at Montego Bay with no problems. Inconsistent enforcement of unstated policies can be crazy-making. If it's going to be uniform and punitive, I may have to change my whole strategy for traveling with gear. How much does it cost to ship a road case separately? >Our whole family flew across the country out to Seattle last month. >We figured it would be easier all around to have one larger bag for >three people, rather than lots of smaller ones. Our one large bag >weighed in at ~65 pounds, and we got charged a fee at the airport >for that single bag being overweight. This was despite the fact >that we could have been within our rights to take along three bags >apiece, each weighing 50 pounds. I got hit that way once, too, and I was not very nice about it. My two bags added up to less than the limit, but one of the bags was more than the single-bag limit. Seemed to be all about the money. >Oh, and in case you didn't catch it above, it looks like the max bag >weight has now been lowered from 70 to 50 pounds per bag. Another >hidden charge with which air carriers can gouge their customers, so >watch the weight on those racks. :P Ack. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 20:14:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 061A23BEDA; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3da.27c995.317be8ab@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:14:35 EDT Subject: Re: airplane baggage To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3da.27c995.317be8ab_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <4vjD2D.A.3iF.x6oSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:14:42 +0000 (UTC) --part1_3da.27c995.317be8ab_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/22/06 12:47:50 PM, mech@m3ch.net writes: > no amount of arguing > FRUSTRATION!.....i once deposited several hundred $ and a few checks coming to about $1000.00 into my bank and a mere second after this transaction i had a $30. check that i wanted to cash....."do you have identification" the young lass asked....."no, but i just gave you close to $1000.00 !" i replyed....."we can not cash a check unless you have i.d. IT'S OUR RULE!".....short of threatening to take my clothes off (a trick i learned from young bill w) i tried everything else all to no avail.....there are so many times in life where logic will not work no matter what!.....:)m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_3da.27c995.317be8ab_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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no amount of arguing<= BR>


FRUSTRATION!.....i once deposited several hundred $ and a few checks comi= ng to about $1000.00 into my bank and a mere second after this transaction i= had a $30. check that i wanted to cash....."do you have identification" the= young lass asked....."no, but i just gave you close to $1000.00 !"  i= replyed....."we can not cash a check unless you have i.d. IT'S OUR RULE!"..= ...short of threatening to take my clothes off (a trick i learned from young= bill w) i tried everything else all to no avail.....there are so many times= in life where logic will not work no matter what!.....:)m



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 --part1_3da.27c995.317be8ab_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 20:49:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54D4D3BED9; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AIi3xTWdt7aH7CFHHujL4DmrrUB1WFtBb4QsTSWH+dB6Ne5DXT5T0+TY9d+qIvhb4oeQPSe6STBACNO9w148aesobBm8uu+dUrWesYTft5IlvqiBLDvO2RWNnzLfQ9eY8p2Zir90ZH+KOiZ/fPdvPYrdJdO+7wVylReY/4s1Mi4= Message-ID: <64b81a780604221349i7c4e710fh54bd2e15096eb527@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:49:50 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: solid state recorders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3b6.12da1b2.317ba7c1@aol.com> <6E3F9F75-407B-44FD-AF5A-79FB3A76DEA8@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, that IKey looks great. Anyone have any recommendations for line level mics to use with it? Todd On 4/22/06, mech wrote: > At 6:42 PM +0200 4/22/06, Per Boysen wrote: > > > >This looks as an awesome piece of gear! Thanks for the tip! I > >already own a 1 GB USB stick, so I just need to pick up some line > >level mic. Seems as the price dropped by half recently ;-) > >http://www.platinum-records.com/Gemini-I-Key-Portable-USB-recorder-prod7= 519.htm > > No problem, Per! Although, credit where credit is due, it was > Duncan's post a couple months back that hipped me to it. And Paul > Mimlitsch did a quickie review a little bit afterwards, if you want > to look through the archives for a second opinion. :) > > It was nice to see the drop in price too. I originally picked mine > up for ~$150 USD at the local Guitar Center after I forced them to do > a price match, but I knew I was taking it on the chin for the > convenience of walking out the door with it. Now that they're > sub-$100 bucks, the iKey ought to be flying off the shelves... > > --m. > > -- > _______ > "Behind every fear lies a wish, don't you think...?" > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 22 23:49:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7EA13BEDA; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,148,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="222020599:sNHT23551244" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--61061828 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:51:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:49:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--61061828 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! I AM TYPING THIS MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS (AND ONE-HANDED) FOR A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST BURNT MY LEFT HAND RATHER BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO. HAVE OU EVER LEFT AN IRON TO SIT TOO LONG ON AN IRONING BOARD WHILE IT WAS WARMING UP, OR TURNED AWAY FROM ONE FOR A SECOND ONLY TO SEE A BROWN SINGE MARK ON YOUR FAVORITE SHIRT WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP? THAT'S WHAT THE TIPS OF MY LEFT HAND FINGERS LOOKED LIKE WHEN I FELT THE HEAT AND PULLED IT AWAY FROM THE MOWER I WAS TRYING TO LEAN DOWN AND ADJUST. THERE ARE BIG NASTY BLISTERS NOW FORMED UNDER THE BROWN SINGED PADS OF THE FIRST THREE FINGERS. FINGERS AND PADS I NORMALLY USE FOR FRETTING A GUITAR AS IT HAPPENS . . . AND TYPING ON A COMPUTER. THE PAIN WHEN I TAKE THE BAG OF ICE AWAY IS INDESCRIBABLE -- EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS TO COME IN WAVES. I'M TYPING BETWEEN THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT KIDDING. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! IT'S HARD NOT TO LAUGH AT MY OWN GROSS STUPIDITY. I HAVE TEENAGE SONS. THEY SHOULD BE MOWING THE LAWN FER #$%&*!@! SAKES! ANYWHO, ARE THERE ANY GOOD HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES OUT THERE FOR MINOR BURNS OF THIS TYPE . . . OTHER THAN TYLENOL AND ALCOHOL AND LIBERALLY APPLIED ICE PACKS? HAS ANYONE BEEN IN A SIMILAR FIX? I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A TRIP TO THE EMERGENCY, I HAVE NO INSURANCE ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT REALLY AN OPTION. I HAVE A GIG IN BOISE, IDAHO IN SIX DAYS AND ONE IN VENTURA, CALIFORNIA THE FOLLOWING, WEEK AND ONE BACK IN OREGON AFTER THAT. I DON'T PLAN ON SWITCHING TO THEREMIN OR AIR SYNTH AT THE LAST MINUTE. HEHEHEHEHEH, OW! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! I GUESS I COULD PLAY SLIDE GUITAR IF THE BURNS DONT HEAL ENOUGH TO BE USEABLE. I WAS A FAIR SLIDE PLAYER (ONCE UPON A TIME) ALTHOUGH IT'S A TECHNIQUE THAT I'D SET ASIDE IN FAVOR OF OTHER THINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. I SUPPOSE A GUITARISTS FIRST WORST NIGHTMARE IS A LOSS OF FINGERS. SO IT COULD BE WORSE I SUPPOSE. ANY GOOD IDEAS? YOU FOLKS ARE MY TRIBE. IF ANYONE HAS A BRIGHT IDEA I'D BE GLAD TO HEAR OF IT. THE SHOW MUST GO ON -- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. tEd =AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???= --Apple-Mail-1--61061828 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! I AM TYPING THIS MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS (AND ONE-HANDED) FOR=20 A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST BURNT MY LEFT HAND RATHER=20 BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. CRAP!=20 CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO. HAVE OU EVER LEFT AN IRON TO SIT TOO LONG ON AN IRONING=20 BOARD WHILE IT WAS WARMING UP, OR TURNED AWAY FROM ONE=20 FOR A SECOND ONLY TO SEE A BROWN SINGE MARK ON YOUR=20 FAVORITE SHIRT WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP?=20 THAT'S WHAT THE TIPS OF MY LEFT HAND FINGERS LOOKED LIKE=20 WHEN I FELT THE HEAT AND PULLED IT AWAY FROM THE MOWER=20 I WAS TRYING TO LEAN DOWN AND ADJUST. THERE ARE BIG NASTY=20 BLISTERS NOW FORMED UNDER THE BROWN SINGED PADS OF THE=20 FIRST THREE FINGERS. FINGERS AND PADS I NORMALLY USE FOR=20 FRETTING A GUITAR AS IT HAPPENS . . . AND TYPING ON A COMPUTER. THE PAIN WHEN I TAKE THE BAG OF ICE AWAY IS INDESCRIBABLE -- EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS TO COME IN WAVES. I'M TYPING BETWEEN=20 THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT KIDDING. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO=20 CRAP! IT'S HARD NOT TO LAUGH AT MY OWN GROSS STUPIDITY. I HAVE TEENAGE SONS. THEY SHOULD BE MOWING THE LAWN FER #$%&*!@! SAKES! ANYWHO, ARE THERE ANY GOOD HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES OUT=20 THERE FOR MINOR BURNS OF THIS TYPE . . . OTHER THAN TYLENOL=20 AND ALCOHOL AND LIBERALLY APPLIED ICE PACKS? HAS ANYONE=20 BEEN IN A SIMILAR FIX? I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A TRIP TO THE EMERGENCY, I HAVE NO INSURANCE ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT=20 REALLY AN OPTION. I HAVE A GIG IN BOISE, IDAHO IN SIX DAYS AND ONE IN VENTURA, CALIFORNIA THE FOLLOWING, WEEK AND ONE BACK IN OREGON AFTER THAT. I DON'T PLAN ON SWITCHING TO THEREMIN OR AIR=20 SYNTH AT THE LAST MINUTE. HEHEHEHEHEH, OW! CRAP! CRAP!=20 CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! I GUESS I COULD PLAY SLIDE GUITAR IF THE BURNS DONT HEAL ENOUGH TO BE USEABLE. I WAS A FAIR SLIDE PLAYER (ONCE UPON=20 A TIME) ALTHOUGH IT'S A TECHNIQUE THAT I'D SET ASIDE IN FAVOR=20 OF OTHER THINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. I SUPPOSE A GUITARISTS FIRST WORST NIGHTMARE IS A LOSS OF FINGERS. SO IT COULD BE WORSE I SUPPOSE. ANY GOOD IDEAS? YOU FOLKS ARE MY TRIBE. IF ANYONE HAS A BRIGHT IDEA I'D BE GLAD TO HEAR OF IT. THE SHOW MUST GO ON -- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. tEd =AE kiLLiAn 8080,8080,8080"Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???= --Apple-Mail-1--61061828-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 00:01:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 836EB3BEDD; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) In-Reply-To: References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2222BB9A-7AD0-4BCB-9058-74FD8B5C7560@sonic.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Landman Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:01:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:01:07 +0000 (UTC) ted- Ice immediately to cool the remaining heat and reduce swelling, but not "bare" ice on the skin for too long, the ice can damage tissue as well. Try wrapping the ice in a cotton towel... Keep it cold for pain relief into this evening, but beyond that no good advice, it sounds like at minimum you've got a 1st degree burn with areas of 2nd degree (the brown areas). It might be worth a trip to an ER or at least to call an advice nurse, the finger tips are pretty important and your description is troubling, the blisters aren't bad, but the brown "ironing board" stuff sounds not so good. Good luck! best- mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 00:02:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 867A83BEE6; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0dba01c66669$32c33150$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:02:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0DB7_01C66636.E76CC450" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-SpamDetect: *: 1.500000 High proportion of text in CAPS=1.5 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 540, in=282200, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:02:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0DB7_01C66636.E76CC450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Darn, Ted, this is not good. Get yourself an alo plant ASAP and keep = your fingertips coated with the goop inside the plant...then coat the = tips of your fingers with super glue before you play. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: tEd =AE kiLLiAn=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! I AM TYPING THIS MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS (AND ONE-HANDED) FOR=20 A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST BURNT MY LEFT HAND RATHER=20 BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. CRAP!=20 CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO. HAVE OU EVER LEFT AN IRON TO SIT TOO LONG ON AN IRONING=20 BOARD WHILE IT WAS WARMING UP, OR TURNED AWAY FROM ONE=20 FOR A SECOND ONLY TO SEE A BROWN SINGE MARK ON YOUR=20 FAVORITE SHIRT WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP?=20 THAT'S WHAT THE TIPS OF MY LEFT HAND FINGERS LOOKED LIKE=20 WHEN I FELT THE HEAT AND PULLED IT AWAY FROM THE MOWER=20 I WAS TRYING TO LEAN DOWN AND ADJUST. THERE ARE BIG NASTY=20 BLISTERS NOW FORMED UNDER THE BROWN SINGED PADS OF THE=20 FIRST THREE FINGERS. FINGERS AND PADS I NORMALLY USE FOR=20 FRETTING A GUITAR AS IT HAPPENS . . . AND TYPING ON A COMPUTER. THE PAIN WHEN I TAKE THE BAG OF ICE AWAY IS INDESCRIBABLE -- EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS TO COME IN WAVES. I'M TYPING BETWEEN=20 THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT KIDDING. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO=20 CRAP! IT'S HARD NOT TO LAUGH AT MY OWN GROSS STUPIDITY. I HAVE TEENAGE SONS. THEY SHOULD BE MOWING THE LAWN FER #$%&*!@! SAKES! ANYWHO, ARE THERE ANY GOOD HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES OUT=20 THERE FOR MINOR BURNS OF THIS TYPE . . . OTHER THAN TYLENOL=20 AND ALCOHOL AND LIBERALLY APPLIED ICE PACKS? HAS ANYONE=20 BEEN IN A SIMILAR FIX? I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A TRIP TO THE EMERGENCY, I HAVE NO INSURANCE ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT=20 REALLY AN OPTION. I HAVE A GIG IN BOISE, IDAHO IN SIX DAYS AND ONE IN VENTURA, CALIFORNIA THE FOLLOWING, WEEK AND ONE BACK IN OREGON AFTER THAT. I DON'T PLAN ON SWITCHING TO THEREMIN OR AIR=20 SYNTH AT THE LAST MINUTE. HEHEHEHEHEH, OW! CRAP! CRAP!=20 CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! I GUESS I COULD PLAY SLIDE GUITAR IF THE BURNS DONT HEAL ENOUGH TO BE USEABLE. I WAS A FAIR SLIDE PLAYER (ONCE UPON=20 A TIME) ALTHOUGH IT'S A TECHNIQUE THAT I'D SET ASIDE IN FAVOR=20 OF OTHER THINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. I SUPPOSE A GUITARISTS FIRST WORST NIGHTMARE IS A LOSS OF FINGERS. SO IT COULD BE WORSE I SUPPOSE. ANY GOOD IDEAS? YOU FOLKS ARE MY TRIBE. IF ANYONE HAS A BRIGHT IDEA I'D BE GLAD TO HEAR OF IT. THE SHOW MUST GO ON -- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. tEd =AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&i= d=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ------=_NextPart_000_0DB7_01C66636.E76CC450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Darn, Ted, this is not good. Get = yourself an alo=20 plant ASAP and keep your fingertips coated with the goop inside the = plant...then coat the tips of your fingers with super glue before you=20 play.
 
Kris
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 tEd =AE=20 kiLLiAn
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 = 5:51=20 PM
Subject: OT -- A GUITARISTS = SECOND WORST=20 NIGHTMARE

DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT!

I AM TYPING THIS = MESSAGE IN=20 ALL CAPS (AND ONE-HANDED) FOR
A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST = BURNT MY=20 LEFT HAND RATHER
BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. = CRAP!=20
CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO.

HAVE OU EVER = LEFT AN=20 IRON TO SIT TOO LONG ON AN IRONING
BOARD WHILE IT WAS WARMING UP, = OR=20 TURNED AWAY FROM ONE
FOR A SECOND ONLY TO SEE A BROWN SINGE MARK = ON YOUR=20
FAVORITE SHIRT WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP?

THAT'S WHAT THE TIPS = OF MY=20 LEFT HAND FINGERS LOOKED LIKE
WHEN I FELT THE HEAT AND PULLED IT = AWAY FROM=20 THE MOWER
I WAS TRYING TO LEAN DOWN AND ADJUST. THERE ARE BIG = NASTY=20
BLISTERS NOW FORMED UNDER THE BROWN SINGED PADS OF THE
FIRST = THREE=20 FINGERS. FINGERS AND PADS I NORMALLY USE FOR
FRETTING A GUITAR AS = IT=20 HAPPENS . . . AND TYPING ON A COMPUTER.

THE PAIN WHEN I TAKE = THE BAG OF=20 ICE AWAY IS INDESCRIBABLE --
EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS TO COME IN WAVES. = I'M=20 TYPING BETWEEN
THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT KIDDING. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! = OOOOOO=20
CRAP! IT'S HARD NOT TO LAUGH AT MY OWN GROSS STUPIDITY.
I HAVE = TEENAGE=20 SONS. THEY SHOULD BE MOWING THE LAWN
FER #$%&*!@! = SAKES!

ANYWHO,=20 ARE THERE ANY GOOD HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES OUT
THERE FOR MINOR BURNS = OF THIS=20 TYPE . . . OTHER THAN TYLENOL
AND ALCOHOL AND LIBERALLY APPLIED = ICE PACKS?=20 HAS ANYONE
BEEN IN A SIMILAR FIX? I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A TRIP = TO
THE EMERGENCY, I HAVE NO INSURANCE ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT =
REALLY AN=20 OPTION.

I HAVE A GIG IN BOISE, IDAHO IN SIX DAYS AND ONE IN=20 VENTURA,
CALIFORNIA THE FOLLOWING, WEEK AND ONE BACK IN = OREGON
AFTER=20 THAT. I DON'T PLAN ON SWITCHING TO THEREMIN OR AIR
SYNTH AT THE = LAST=20 MINUTE. HEHEHEHEHEH, OW! CRAP! CRAP!
CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP!

I = GUESS I=20 COULD PLAY SLIDE GUITAR IF THE BURNS DONT HEAL
ENOUGH TO BE = USEABLE. I WAS=20 A FAIR SLIDE PLAYER (ONCE UPON
A TIME) ALTHOUGH IT'S A TECHNIQUE = THAT I'D=20 SET ASIDE IN FAVOR
OF OTHER THINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

I = SUPPOSE=20 A GUITARISTS FIRST WORST NIGHTMARE IS A LOSS OF FINGERS.
SO IT = COULD BE=20 WORSE I SUPPOSE. ANY GOOD IDEAS? YOU FOLKS ARE
MY TRIBE. IF ANYONE = HAS A=20 BRIGHT IDEA I'D BE GLAD TO HEAR OF IT.
THE SHOW MUST GO ON -- ONE = WAY OR=20 ANOTHER.

tEd =AE kiLLiAn

"Different=20 is not always better, but better is always=20 = different"

http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html
http://www.CDbaby.= com/cd/tedkillian
http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html
http://ww= w.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina
http://www.towerrecords.com/product= .aspx?pfid=3D2845073
http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBN= M_17314
http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D1= 93
http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_pro= file&id=3D121197000042

Ted=20 Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple = iTunes,
BuyMusic,=20 Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,
AudioLunchbox, = Lindows,=20 QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,
RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, = CatchMusic, Puretracks,
and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, = blah, blah.=20 So??? ------=_NextPart_000_0DB7_01C66636.E76CC450-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 00:04:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 745553BEE4; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:06:20 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1463809535-1166827583-1145750499=:21232" Content-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:04:33 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1463809535-1166827583-1145750499=:21232 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: [snip for length] Ted: First, owwwwww. I am sorry about your pain. Second, you really should go to an urgent care center (yes, I know you said you don't have insurance, I'm still recommending it anyway) and get your hand looked at - by your description you have severe 2nd-degree burns and will need to watch carefully to avoid infection. I can't see how you'd possibly heal well enough to play guitar in six days, for one thing, you're going to lose the calluses on those finger pads. Maybe slide will work for you, you'll have to see. Wish you well. Steve B http://www.subscapeannex.com/ ---1463809535-1166827583-1145750499=:21232-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 00:05:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 306A73BEE6; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0dc701c66669$9479fe60$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <2222BB9A-7AD0-4BCB-9058-74FD8B5C7560@sonic.net> Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:05:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 538, in=278097, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Actually, I've heard that applying ice to a burn is not the best thing to do. Here is a quote from a medical source I'm looking at now: "Do not apply ice to the burn. It compounds the injury by decreasing the blood flow to the burned area, thus starving the damaged tissues of vital fluids and proteins" "immerse the burn in cool running water for at least 30 minutes to help relieve the pain. If you can't cool the burn immediately, this procedure will still help to some degree up to 2 hours after the injury has occurred." Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Landman" To: Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:01 PM Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE > ted- > > Ice immediately to cool the remaining heat and reduce swelling, but not > "bare" ice on the skin for too long, the ice can damage tissue as well. > Try wrapping the ice in a cotton towel... > > Keep it cold for pain relief into this evening, but beyond that no good > advice, it sounds like at minimum you've got a 1st degree burn with areas > of 2nd degree (the brown areas). > > It might be worth a trip to an ER or at least to call an advice nurse, > the finger tips are pretty important and your description is troubling, > the blisters aren't bad, but the brown "ironing board" stuff sounds not > so good. > > Good luck! > > best- > > mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 00:11:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09C733BEDE; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ekYX1tMfgkspuLJ4QNyMnTUCFA/NQgDdbcsi+seBZ1ncQmwDi8QcCpBbQK76F8gIJ9OH+MldysEgz62J2n5PikwMy4nb6hv5F9EfC+K7IYSVav1yDnCOwjNIT8xu3XZgcilQnWftOKqG1F7RrdSJp4rmpd2pAt3lCmSstRqp+m8= ; Message-ID: <20060423001110.38451.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:11:10 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Electrix Filter Factory To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <913728d60604221054k4d854aa1vcd89940e8afecd50@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:11:12 +0000 (UTC) > wrote: > > Ebay... guess Im keeping mine).. ITS TWO U > HIGH...but it really doesnt DO > > that much, its a filter!!! It should have been 1 U > at most!!! Yeah, I hear you. For as much as I love the interfaces, it kind of makes them "studio gear" for people who don't have rodies. I was thinking of putting an Electrix rack back together... I loved the mofx and the warpfactory too... but it just seems better to do stuff like that in software these days. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 00:26:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 149913BED9; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=3LhPVNy0PZgmPtk06e3Mr1dXS6WJZB5YD/MfFRBSNEuzkQ21s0T6cFyS8+3OcV9EaQLrTkNg+JdZikUwgIUBPtSXoFALqmNptKATcpqUis/ZSQfafskWgFAvWcYcqCzVtjqiqhdpj+PdcED4+mMZ6EGemN5twgozF97fwSDwGDk= ; From: "murkie" To: Subject: RE: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:26:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZmaX/l5j7hcAKNS122YlHJdbv1RAAAidCA Message-Id: <20060423002635.7A5DF3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:26:37 +0000 (UTC) > you really should go to an urgent care center (yes, I know you said you don't have insurance, I'm still recommending it anyway) and get your hand looked at < i have to second this. it's your HAND! kind of an important bodypart for a guitarist. i wouldn't want to risk long-term damage. sell one of the teenagers to pay for it if you have to. wishing you a speedy recovery, m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 00:41:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 022013BEDB; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005c01c6666e$98ee7d40$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: airplane baggage Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:41:00 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: <2CZhJ.A.GfC.q0sSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:41:14 +0000 (UTC) I'm surprised that those of us who fly a lot more than I do know about how much easier it is to redistribute weight around the hold with smaller than larger luggage. Distribution of weight on the cargo level is critical, and if you think about how the guys on the tarmac just want to mindlessly throw the bags in those containers and not think about it, it's probably a good idea to not require them to think about How To Counterbalance The 70lb Trunk On This Flight. In this case I would say the safety aspect was there before someone decided to make more money than they used to for excess weight. Overheard in a minicab in St Kitts on recent vacation: American Passenger: "Do you know which gate US Airways takes off from?" 80-yr-old native Taxi Driver: "Honey, there's no gate at THIS airport..." ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gans" To: Sent: Saturday, 22 April, 2006 19:53 PM Subject: Re: airplane baggage > At 1:47 AM +0900 4/23/06, mech wrote: > > >>Yeah, it would probably be best to err on the side of caution. The >>airlines have evidently decided very recently that charging for overweight >>and excess baggage can be a new revenue stream for them. And they've all >>pretty much fallen lockstep into the same pattern at pretty much the same >>time too, from what I've just seen. > > Uh-oh. I don't like the sound of that. > > I got dinged by Delta for an excess baggage charge on the return leg of a > round trip, after being able to carry my guitar on board outbound. > > Coming home form Jamaica a couple of weeks ago I was required to check my > guitar at DFW, after carrying it on board at Montego Bay with no problems. > > Inconsistent enforcement of unstated policies can be crazy-making. If it's > going to be uniform and punitive, I may have to change my whole strategy > for traveling with gear. > > How much does it cost to ship a road case separately? > > > >>Our whole family flew across the country out to Seattle last month. We >>figured it would be easier all around to have one larger bag for three >>people, rather than lots of smaller ones. Our one large bag weighed in at >>~65 pounds, and we got charged a fee at the airport for that single bag >>being overweight. This was despite the fact that we could have been >>within our rights to take along three bags apiece, each weighing 50 >>pounds. > > I got hit that way once, too, and I was not very nice about it. My two > bags added up to less than the limit, but one of the bags was more than > the single-bag limit. Seemed to be all about the money. > > >>Oh, and in case you didn't catch it above, it looks like the max bag >>weight has now been lowered from 70 to 50 pounds per bag. Another hidden >>charge with which air carriers can gouge their customers, so watch the >>weight on those racks. :P > > Ack. > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 00:44:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72FF63BECC; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <0dc701c66669$9479fe60$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <2222BB9A-7AD0-4BCB-9058-74FD8B5C7560@sonic.net> <0dc701c66669$9479fe60$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6B4568F0-C5A2-4907-BE77-8F94C71036EC@sonic.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Landman Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:44:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Yes, this is why you don't put ice directly on the bare skin, wrapping the ice in a towel (which becomes moist as the ice melts) reduces the effect, giving a cool, moist compress. I recently retired from the Fire Department after almost 28 years, for major burns our Paramedics would wrap the area in a sterile towel, then keep soaked with sterile I.V. solution, my guess is Ted can't do this easily right now. Holding it under cool running water would be fine too, just reduce that residual heat! I want to second that you should get a real medical opinion, as your description of the burn indicates it could be more than a simple 1st degree burn. Taker care of those finger tips! Mark On Apr 22, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Actually, I've heard that applying ice to a burn is not the best > thing to do. Here is a quote from a medical source I'm looking at now: > > "Do not apply ice to the burn. It compounds the injury by > decreasing the blood flow to the burned area, thus starving the > damaged tissues of vital fluids and proteins" > "immerse the burn in cool running water for at least 30 minutes to > help relieve the pain. If you can't cool the burn immediately, this > procedure will still help to some degree up to 2 hours after the > injury has occurred." > > Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 00:47:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 834273BEDC; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749) In-Reply-To: <20060423000226.093F93BEE7@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060423000226.093F93BEE7@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--57638002 Message-Id: <607BC96D-882F-4003-B414-727BD5487283@surfbest.net> From: Richard Roberts Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V06 #358 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:48:06 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--57638002 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Get some aloe vera gel on the burns ASAP. It'll help as much as =20 anything. My brother had the same type of burn (albeit from a =20 motorcycle he was working on) and applied the aloe immediately. It =20 didn't even scar. All the best with the healing, Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is =20 more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by =20 another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen On Apr 22, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-=20 delight.com wrote: > From: tEd =AE kiLLiAn > Date: April 22, 2006 6:51:02 PM CDT > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE --Apple-Mail-1--57638002 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Get some = aloe vera gel on the burns ASAP. It'll help as much as anything. My = brother had the same type of burn (albeit from a motorcycle he was = working on) and applied the aloe immediately. It didn't even = scar.
All the best with the = healing,

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no = longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case = when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen


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On Apr 22, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Loopers-Deli= ght-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:

From: tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>

Date: April 22, 2006 6:51:02 PM = CDT

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Subject: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST = NIGHTMARE

=

= --Apple-Mail-1--57638002-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 01:28:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 354B63BEDA; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <20060423002635.7A5DF3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20060423002635.7A5DF3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--55247800 Message-Id: <421fbc36088e3e76638e23fa0308d395@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:27:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:28:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--55247800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed My son is a spinal surgeon. I did the very same thing last summer on a dilapidated lawn mower I was fixing for my other son. He had worked in the emergency room as part of his residency and he recommended Second Skin.It is miraculous. Go get some right away. It keeps the skin from peeling off, keeps it wet and miraculously takes the burning away. It will help you heal much faster. Any decent drug store would have it. On the way to the drug store wrap your hand in a cold towel. I used ice to keep my hand from falling off till I got the Second Skin. It is much more powerful than aloe etc. Once you get Second Skin, I'm sure you can find homeopathic remedies to help speed the recovery. Go get some Second Skin right now. You'll be happy. I can't guarantee you'll be able to fret your guitar, but you will be able to sleep etc. peace richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 22-Apr-06, at 5:26 PM, murkie wrote: > >> you really should go to an urgent care center (yes, I know you said >> you > don't have insurance, I'm still recommending it anyway) and get your > hand > looked at < > > i have to second this. it's your HAND! kind of an important bodypart > for a > guitarist. i wouldn't want to risk long-term damage. sell one of the > teenagers to pay for it if you have to. > > wishing you a speedy recovery, > > m > --Apple-Mail-8--55247800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII My son is a spinal surgeon. I did the very same thing last summer on a dilapidated lawn mower I was fixing for my other son. He had worked in the emergency room as part of his residency and he recommended Second Skin.It is miraculous. Go get some right away. It keeps the skin from peeling off, keeps it wet and miraculously takes the burning away. It will help you heal much faster. Any decent drug store would have it. On the way to the drug store wrap your hand in a cold towel. I used ice to keep my hand from falling off till I got the Second Skin. It is much more powerful than aloe etc. Once you get Second Skin, I'm sure you can find homeopathic remedies to help speed the recovery. Go get some Second Skin right now. You'll be happy. I can't guarantee you'll be able to fret your guitar, but you will be able to sleep etc. peace Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 22-Apr-06, at 5:26 PM, murkie wrote: you really should go to an urgent care center (yes, I know you said you don't have insurance, I'm still recommending it anyway) and get your hand looked at << i have to second this. it's your HAND! kind of an important bodypart for a guitarist. i wouldn't want to risk long-term damage. sell one of the teenagers to pay for it if you have to. wishing you a speedy recovery, m --Apple-Mail-8--55247800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 01:34:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30C4B3BED9; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:34:38 -0400 From: TonyIsYourPal@netscape.net (Tony Douglas) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <07CA32F9.5436D3EF.59DF470E@netscape.net> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 84.64.58.122 X-AOL-Language: english Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:34:42 +0000 (UTC) [For some reason I didn't see the original post, but I'm reading between the lines of the responses...] I'll third that. Any medical professional (doctor or nurse) will be able to give the burn a once over to see if any deeper damage has occurred. Best thing is to get plenty of cool water onto it to cool the skin & flesh down, then take it to a pro to look it over (even if you went straight to see them, they'd probably run water over it for a good while before looking at it much). Aqueous cream (basically thick water) can help healing, and there are various types of sticking plaster that can help - a pro will recommend the correct type of plaster and/or cream. Having had a face full of boiling anti freeze a few years ago, I went to the doc and got water first, then the pro having a look, then cream / ointment for afters. Seemed like a good plan. Guitar playing is very probably out for a while though, however deep the damage is. Even if it's fairly mild, playing a steel string guitar, with friction from the strings, is probably going to hurt, and probably aggravate things. - Tony "murkie" wrote: [ seconding the motion ] __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 01:56:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39F103BECF; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4b1215b60537ed63c345976a5006b3bc@pfmentum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Jeff Kaiser Subject: Weather in Boise, Id.... Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:56:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Kris is leaving out no details to make the Boise festival excellent. Even the weather is supposed to be fantastic that weekend. http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USID0025? Good job, Kris! Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com =95 AngryVegan.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 02:02:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BAE83BED5; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=p7/dlvSkMwvfxalwrousG4bj3L5gNcJKNe/YKK+jqUBuEhqx7i/o3oqcScetbAaw; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <10564029.1145757770892.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da9407df7d19fd2994d3020b9a6e366790111350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.42 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Ted Please go to the hospital. There are various thicknesses of burn severity. Keep it covered with some form Serran wrap to keep the nerve endings covered. Cool water, no ice (damages tissue, limits vascularization). It would appear to be a full thickness burn from the way you described it. The color of the burn is what is worrying me, from my surgical technology text's burn care unit, it sounds like the discolouration is sever and would definitely need more attention than some amature like me guessing over the internet. My wife is a burn tech/nurse intern at a large university hospital burn ward and recomends getting to an emergency or urgent care area immediately based on the discolouration. This is all general burn care stuff and without seeing your burn, it can't be diagnosed. Take some ibuprofen and go. I know that the whole no insurance thing is a royal pain in the wallet, but secondary infections and necrossed tissue are worse nightmares. A diagnostic question: When you touch it, does the colour come back with blood refilling the tissues afteward? If not, the worse the damage is. Sorry if all of this is not really helping. Take Care and let us know what happens. Todd -----Original Message----- >From: Krispen Hartung >Sent: Apr 22, 2006 8:05 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE > >Actually, I've heard that applying ice to a burn is not the best thing to >do. Here is a quote from a medical source I'm looking at now: > >"Do not apply ice to the burn. It compounds the injury by decreasing the >blood flow to the burned area, thus starving the damaged tissues of vital >fluids and proteins" >"immerse the burn in cool running water for at least 30 minutes to help >relieve the pain. If you can't cool the burn immediately, this procedure >will still help to some degree up to 2 hours after the injury has occurred." > >Kris > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Landman" >To: >Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:01 PM >Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE > > >> ted- >> >> Ice immediately to cool the remaining heat and reduce swelling, but not >> "bare" ice on the skin for too long, the ice can damage tissue as well. >> Try wrapping the ice in a cotton towel... >> >> Keep it cold for pain relief into this evening, but beyond that no good >> advice, it sounds like at minimum you've got a 1st degree burn with areas >> of 2nd degree (the brown areas). >> >> It might be worth a trip to an ER or at least to call an advice nurse, >> the finger tips are pretty important and your description is troubling, >> the blisters aren't bad, but the brown "ironing board" stuff sounds not >> so good. >> >> Good luck! >> >> best- >> >> mark >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 02:09:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5948A3BEDF; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <86810b863833ce06912c412b77d92102@suitandtieguy.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suit & Tie Guy Subject: Re: airplane baggage Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:09:20 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:09:24 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 22, 2006, at 12:34 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Doesn't it piss you off when you get charged overage on your bags, but > the 600 pound gorrilla in front of you pays the same for his seat as > you?? gee. sorry. didn't mean to offend you by being overweight. next time i'll take a train. kthx. --- Suit & Tie Guy www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 02:50:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A4F3BECF; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0e1101c66680$a9bc8830$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <4b1215b60537ed63c345976a5006b3bc@pfmentum.com> Subject: Re: Weather in Boise, Id.... Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:50:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 541, in=291390, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Oh yes, I special ordered that! :) Yes indeed, it is beautful in Boise now. This is my favorite time of the year here. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Kaiser" To: Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: Weather in Boise, Id.... Kris is leaving out no details to make the Boise festival excellent. Even the weather is supposed to be fantastic that weekend. http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USID0025? Good job, Kris! Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 03:36:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD6003BECA; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WMzaRC1jYfZcaPZo92yO5lxEe5ogG1rYGAlGZrdCEQImuyt/kBi4SxHRtfbT0ldn; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-22006402333713890@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:37:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da940bb54f6b2a05209532fb60ad9596af487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.240 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Ted, I am so sorry to hear of your injury. Listen to your pals and get some real medical attention. I will pray for you in the meantime... unless you are an atheist and would rather I refrain from doing so ;-) Get well! ~Tim > [Original Message] > From: tEd ® kiLLiAn > To: > Date: 4/22/2006 7:49:41 PM > Subject: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE > > DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! > > I AM TYPING THIS MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS (AND ONE-HANDED) FOR > A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST BURNT MY LEFT HAND RATHER > BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. CRAP! > CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO. > > HAVE OU EVER LEFT AN IRON TO SIT TOO LONG ON AN IRONING > BOARD WHILE IT WAS WARMING UP, OR TURNED AWAY FROM ONE > FOR A SECOND ONLY TO SEE A BROWN SINGE MARK ON YOUR > FAVORITE SHIRT WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP? > > THAT'S WHAT THE TIPS OF MY LEFT HAND FINGERS LOOKED LIKE > WHEN I FELT THE HEAT AND PULLED IT AWAY FROM THE MOWER > I WAS TRYING TO LEAN DOWN AND ADJUST. THERE ARE BIG NASTY > BLISTERS NOW FORMED UNDER THE BROWN SINGED PADS OF THE > FIRST THREE FINGERS. FINGERS AND PADS I NORMALLY USE FOR > FRETTING A GUITAR AS IT HAPPENS . . . AND TYPING ON A COMPUTER. > > THE PAIN WHEN I TAKE THE BAG OF ICE AWAY IS INDESCRIBABLE -- > EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS TO COME IN WAVES. I'M TYPING BETWEEN > THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT KIDDING. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO > CRAP! IT'S HARD NOT TO LAUGH AT MY OWN GROSS STUPIDITY. > I HAVE TEENAGE SONS. THEY SHOULD BE MOWING THE LAWN > FER #$%&*!@! SAKES! > > ANYWHO, ARE THERE ANY GOOD HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES OUT > THERE FOR MINOR BURNS OF THIS TYPE . . . OTHER THAN TYLENOL > AND ALCOHOL AND LIBERALLY APPLIED ICE PACKS? HAS ANYONE > BEEN IN A SIMILAR FIX? I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A TRIP TO > THE EMERGENCY, I HAVE NO INSURANCE ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT > REALLY AN OPTION. > > I HAVE A GIG IN BOISE, IDAHO IN SIX DAYS AND ONE IN VENTURA, > CALIFORNIA THE FOLLOWING, WEEK AND ONE BACK IN OREGON > AFTER THAT. I DON'T PLAN ON SWITCHING TO THEREMIN OR AIR > SYNTH AT THE LAST MINUTE. HEHEHEHEHEH, OW! CRAP! CRAP! > CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! > > I GUESS I COULD PLAY SLIDE GUITAR IF THE BURNS DONT HEAL > ENOUGH TO BE USEABLE. I WAS A FAIR SLIDE PLAYER (ONCE UPON > A TIME) ALTHOUGH IT'S A TECHNIQUE THAT I'D SET ASIDE IN FAVOR > OF OTHER THINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. > > I SUPPOSE A GUITARISTS FIRST WORST NIGHTMARE IS A LOSS OF FINGERS. > SO IT COULD BE WORSE I SUPPOSE. ANY GOOD IDEAS? YOU FOLKS ARE > MY TRIBE. IF ANYONE HAS A BRIGHT IDEA I'D BE GLAD TO HEAR OF IT. > THE SHOW MUST GO ON -- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. > > tEd ® kiLLiAn > > "Different is not always better, but better is always different" > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi? > step=view_profile&id=121197000042 > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 03:52:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87F9F3BEDE; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [24.35.8.33] X-Originating-Email: [ecleverdon@hotmail.com] X-Sender: ecleverdon@hotmail.com From: "edwin cleverdon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: best looper? Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:52:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Apr 2006 03:52:05.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[496BC4B0:01C66689] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:52:06 +0000 (UTC) I'm new to this forum, and have learned a tremendous amount in just the few weeks I've been lurking. I hope you guys can help guide me. I currently play in sort of a free jazz improv group -- I'm the designated "bass" player (guitar w/octave pedal), and I often get loops going to build up textural rhythm tracks. I've been using an old Akai Headrush, but it's quite limited. I've been looking at the EH 2880, EH 16-sec delay, boss rc-50, and the someday-to-be-released repeater, which all seem to be in the same general price range, but reading the specs isn't as enlightening as I could hope. Also, its not really possible in Birmingham, Alabama to pop into a music store and demo these things (and certainly not the ones that haven't been released yet). Between the 16-sec and the 2880, as best as I can tell, the 2880 seems to be a deluxe 16-sec delay (and perhaps the only reason to choose the 16-sec is for the price). The boss looks good, in spite of boss' best efforts to market it as a shredder's buddy. And the repeater looks good too, but it may be more sophisticated than I need. Help! _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 03:57:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 835BD3BED9; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:04:44 -0400 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: Re: best looper? To: Message-id: <001b01c6668b$0e060280$45b5a344@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: <2GQX1.A.IbD.qsvSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:57:30 +0000 (UTC) In that same price range sits the Digitech "JamMan" - worth a look. http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/digitech_jamman/digitech_jamman.html http://www.digitech.com/products/JamMan/JamMan.htm http://www.acousticfingerstyle.com/JamManReview.htm Good luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: "edwin cleverdon" To: Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: best looper? > I'm new to this forum, and have learned a tremendous amount in just the few > weeks I've been lurking. I hope you guys can help guide me. I currently > play in sort of a free jazz improv group -- I'm the designated "bass" player > (guitar w/octave pedal), and I often get loops going to build up textural > rhythm tracks. I've been using an old Akai Headrush, but it's quite > limited. > > I've been looking at the EH 2880, EH 16-sec delay, boss rc-50, and the > someday-to-be-released repeater, which all seem to be in the same general > price range, but reading the specs isn't as enlightening as I could hope. > Also, its not really possible in Birmingham, Alabama to pop into a music > store and demo these things (and certainly not the ones that haven't been > released yet). > > Between the 16-sec and the 2880, as best as I can tell, the 2880 seems to be > a deluxe 16-sec delay (and perhaps the only reason to choose the 16-sec is > for the price). The boss looks good, in spite of boss' best efforts to > market it as a shredder's buddy. And the repeater looks good too, but it > may be more sophisticated than I need. > > Help! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 04:31:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D76343BED9; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,149,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="49901528:sNHT24636660" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <07CA32F9.5436D3EF.59DF470E@netscape.net> References: <07CA32F9.5436D3EF.59DF470E@netscape.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--44182784 Message-Id: <23ed1d6076dfdbe19a4a646ea64c69df@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:32:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: <4A-S5D.A.QSF.FMwSEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:31:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--44182784 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed HEY THERE Y'ALL, I DID NOT GO TO THE ER OR A DOCTOR BUT CONSULTED A LOCAL FRIEND WHO IS A NURSE AND VISITED THEM AT HOME. I GOT A LOT OF THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ALL GAVE. I AM TRYING FAITHFULLY TO DO EVERYTHING THEY AND YOU ALL RECOMMENDED. I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THE SECOND SKIN STUFF YET. I WILL DO THAT =20 TOMORROW. BEEN KEEPING IT COOL AND MOIST WITH ICE AND ALOE -- BUT NOT TOO COLD. =20= TOO MUCH COLD HURTS AS MUCH AS NO COLD AT ALL. TYPING IS A PAIN WITH ONLY ONE HAND. SO FORGIVE ME FOR NOT WRITING BACK WITH MORE INFO. IF IT WORSENS TOMORROW I WILL DEFINITELY SEE A DOCTOR SOMEHOW ANYWAY. IT LOOKS LIKE BOISE IS GOING TO BE A SLIDE GUITAR AND AIRSYNTH GIG FOR =20= ME. THANK GOODNESS I HAVE JEFF ALONG. WE'LL SEE HOW THE WEEK GOES. THANKS FOR ALL OF THE CONCERN AND KIND WISHES. tEd =AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???= --Apple-Mail-2--44182784 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 HEY THERE Y'ALL, I DID NOT GO TO THE ER OR A DOCTOR BUT CONSULTED A LOCAL FRIEND WHO IS A NURSE AND VISITED THEM AT HOME. I GOT A LOT OF THE SAME=20 RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ALL GAVE. I AM TRYING FAITHFULLY TO DO EVERYTHING THEY AND YOU ALL RECOMMENDED. I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THE SECOND SKIN STUFF YET. I WILL DO THAT TOMORROW. BEEN KEEPING IT COOL AND MOIST WITH ICE AND ALOE -- BUT NOT TOO COLD. TOO MUCH COLD HURTS AS MUCH AS NO COLD AT ALL. TYPING IS A PAIN WITH ONLY ONE HAND. SO FORGIVE ME FOR NOT WRITING BACK=20 WITH MORE INFO. IF IT WORSENS TOMORROW I WILL DEFINITELY SEE A DOCTOR SOMEHOW ANYWAY. IT LOOKS LIKE BOISE IS GOING TO BE A SLIDE GUITAR AND AIRSYNTH GIG FOR ME. THANK GOODNESS I HAVE JEFF ALONG. WE'LL SEE HOW THE WEEK GOES. THANKS FOR ALL OF THE CONCERN AND KIND WISHES. tEd =AE kiLLiAn 8080,8080,8080"Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???= --Apple-Mail-2--44182784-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 04:33:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BB503BEC5; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: RE: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:34:11 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C66665.42128D80" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <23ed1d6076dfdbe19a4a646ea64c69df@charter.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:33:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C66665.42128D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hang in there Ted!!! ~peace~ Michael -----Original Message----- From: tEd ® kiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 11:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE HEY THERE Y'ALL, I DID NOT GO TO THE ER OR A DOCTOR BUT CONSULTED A LOCAL FRIEND WHO IS A NURSE AND VISITED THEM AT HOME. I GOT A LOT OF THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ALL GAVE. I AM TRYING FAITHFULLY TO DO EVERYTHING THEY AND YOU ALL RECOMMENDED. I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THE SECOND SKIN STUFF YET. I WILL DO THAT TOMORROW. BEEN KEEPING IT COOL AND MOIST WITH ICE AND ALOE -- BUT NOT TOO COLD. TOO MUCH COLD HURTS AS MUCH AS NO COLD AT ALL. TYPING IS A PAIN WITH ONLY ONE HAND. SO FORGIVE ME FOR NOT WRITING BACK WITH MORE INFO. IF IT WORSENS TOMORROW I WILL DEFINITELY SEE A DOCTOR SOMEHOW ANYWAY. IT LOOKS LIKE BOISE IS GOING TO BE A SLIDE GUITAR AND AIRSYNTH GIG FOR ME. THANK GOODNESS I HAVE JEFF ALONG. WE'LL SEE HOW THE WEEK GOES. THANKS FOR ALL OF THE CONCERN AND KIND WISHES. tEd ® kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=1 21197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C66665.42128D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hang=20 in there Ted!!!
 
~peace~
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: tEd =AE kiLLiAn=20 [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 22, = 2006 11:32=20 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST = NIGHTMARE

HEY THERE=20 Y'ALL,

I DID NOT GO TO THE ER OR A DOCTOR BUT CONSULTED A LOCAL = FRIEND
WHO IS A NURSE AND VISITED THEM AT HOME. I GOT A LOT OF THE = SAME=20
RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ALL GAVE.

I AM TRYING FAITHFULLY TO DO=20 EVERYTHING THEY AND YOU ALL RECOMMENDED.
I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET = THE=20 SECOND SKIN STUFF YET. I WILL DO THAT TOMORROW.
BEEN KEEPING IT = COOL AND=20 MOIST WITH ICE AND ALOE -- BUT NOT TOO COLD. TOO
MUCH COLD HURTS AS = MUCH AS=20 NO COLD AT ALL.

TYPING IS A PAIN WITH ONLY ONE HAND. SO FORGIVE = ME FOR=20 NOT WRITING BACK
WITH MORE INFO. IF IT WORSENS TOMORROW I WILL = DEFINITELY=20 SEE A DOCTOR
SOMEHOW ANYWAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE BOISE IS GOING TO = BE A=20 SLIDE GUITAR AND AIRSYNTH GIG FOR ME.
THANK GOODNESS I HAVE JEFF = ALONG.=20 WE'LL SEE HOW THE WEEK GOES.

THANKS FOR ALL OF THE CONCERN AND = KIND=20 WISHES.

tEd =AE kiLLiAn

"Different=20 is not always better, but better is always=20 = different"

http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html
http://www.CDbaby.= com/cd/tedkillian
http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html
http://ww= w.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina
http://www.towerrecords.com/product= .aspx?pfid=3D2845073
http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBN= M_17314
http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D1= 93
http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_pro= file&id=3D121197000042

Ted=20 Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple = iTunes,
BuyMusic,=20 Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,
AudioLunchbox, = Lindows,=20 QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,
RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, = CatchMusic, Puretracks,
and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, = blah, blah.=20 So???
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C66665.42128D80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 04:42:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFE053BED5; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:41:52 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C66655.917D0220" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <23ed1d6076dfdbe19a4a646ea64c69df@charter.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:42:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C66655.917D0220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hang in Ted I'll be sending the healing vibes Bill -----Original Message----- From: tEd ® kiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE HEY THERE Y'ALL, I DID NOT GO TO THE ER OR A DOCTOR BUT CONSULTED A LOCAL FRIEND WHO IS A NURSE AND VISITED THEM AT HOME. I GOT A LOT OF THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ALL GAVE. I AM TRYING FAITHFULLY TO DO EVERYTHING THEY AND YOU ALL RECOMMENDED. I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THE SECOND SKIN STUFF YET. I WILL DO THAT TOMORROW. BEEN KEEPING IT COOL AND MOIST WITH ICE AND ALOE -- BUT NOT TOO COLD. TOO MUCH COLD HURTS AS MUCH AS NO COLD AT ALL. TYPING IS A PAIN WITH ONLY ONE HAND. SO FORGIVE ME FOR NOT WRITING BACK WITH MORE INFO. IF IT WORSENS TOMORROW I WILL DEFINITELY SEE A DOCTOR SOMEHOW ANYWAY. IT LOOKS LIKE BOISE IS GOING TO BE A SLIDE GUITAR AND AIRSYNTH GIG FOR ME. THANK GOODNESS I HAVE JEFF ALONG. WE'LL SEE HOW THE WEEK GOES. THANKS FOR ALL OF THE CONCERN AND KIND WISHES. tEd ® kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=1 21197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C66655.917D0220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hang=20 in Ted
I'll=20 be sending the healing vibes
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: tEd =AE kiLLiAn=20 [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 22, = 2006 9:32=20 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST = NIGHTMARE

HEY THERE=20 Y'ALL,

I DID NOT GO TO THE ER OR A DOCTOR BUT CONSULTED A LOCAL = FRIEND
WHO IS A NURSE AND VISITED THEM AT HOME. I GOT A LOT OF THE = SAME=20
RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ALL GAVE.

I AM TRYING FAITHFULLY TO DO=20 EVERYTHING THEY AND YOU ALL RECOMMENDED.
I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET = THE=20 SECOND SKIN STUFF YET. I WILL DO THAT TOMORROW.
BEEN KEEPING IT = COOL AND=20 MOIST WITH ICE AND ALOE -- BUT NOT TOO COLD. TOO
MUCH COLD HURTS AS = MUCH AS=20 NO COLD AT ALL.

TYPING IS A PAIN WITH ONLY ONE HAND. SO FORGIVE = ME FOR=20 NOT WRITING BACK
WITH MORE INFO. IF IT WORSENS TOMORROW I WILL = DEFINITELY=20 SEE A DOCTOR
SOMEHOW ANYWAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE BOISE IS GOING TO = BE A=20 SLIDE GUITAR AND AIRSYNTH GIG FOR ME.
THANK GOODNESS I HAVE JEFF = ALONG.=20 WE'LL SEE HOW THE WEEK GOES.

THANKS FOR ALL OF THE CONCERN AND = KIND=20 WISHES.

tEd =AE kiLLiAn

"Different=20 is not always better, but better is always=20 = different"

http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html
http://www.CDbaby.= com/cd/tedkillian
http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html
http://ww= w.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina
http://www.towerrecords.com/product= .aspx?pfid=3D2845073
http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBN= M_17314
http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D1= 93
http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_pro= file&id=3D121197000042

Ted=20 Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple = iTunes,
BuyMusic,=20 Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,
AudioLunchbox, = Lindows,=20 QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,
RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, = CatchMusic, Puretracks,
and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, = blah, blah.=20 So???
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C66655.917D0220-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 04:42:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0BAC3BECC; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0ea601c66690$5f5c0df0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <07CA32F9.5436D3EF.59DF470E@netscape.net> <23ed1d6076dfdbe19a4a646ea64c69df@charter.net> Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:42:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0EA3_01C6665E.141669D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 541, in=291406, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:42:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0EA3_01C6665E.141669D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted, I have a positive gut feeling that you will heal fast and be up to = par by the festival. With the right care and treatment, 1 week may yield = some good results for you. But, you are an adaptive animal and will = generate a wonderful performance, regardless. See you in six days! Kris HEY THERE Y'ALL, I DID NOT GO TO THE ER OR A DOCTOR BUT CONSULTED A LOCAL FRIEND WHO IS A NURSE AND VISITED THEM AT HOME. I GOT A LOT OF THE SAME=20 RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ALL GAVE. I AM TRYING FAITHFULLY TO DO EVERYTHING THEY AND YOU ALL RECOMMENDED. I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THE SECOND SKIN STUFF YET. I WILL DO THAT = TOMORROW. BEEN KEEPING IT COOL AND MOIST WITH ICE AND ALOE -- BUT NOT TOO COLD. = TOO MUCH COLD HURTS AS MUCH AS NO COLD AT ALL. TYPING IS A PAIN WITH ONLY ONE HAND. SO FORGIVE ME FOR NOT WRITING = BACK=20 WITH MORE INFO. IF IT WORSENS TOMORROW I WILL DEFINITELY SEE A DOCTOR SOMEHOW ANYWAY. IT LOOKS LIKE BOISE IS GOING TO BE A SLIDE GUITAR AND AIRSYNTH GIG FOR = ME. THANK GOODNESS I HAVE JEFF ALONG. WE'LL SEE HOW THE WEEK GOES. THANKS FOR ALL OF THE CONCERN AND KIND WISHES. tEd =AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&i= d=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ------=_NextPart_000_0EA3_01C6665E.141669D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ted, I have a positive gut feeling = that you=20 will heal fast and be up to par by the festival. With the right care and = treatment, 1 week may yield some good results for you. But, you are an = adaptive=20 animal and will generate a wonderful performance, = regardless.
 
See you in six days!

Kris
 
 

HEY THERE Y'ALL,

I DID NOT GO TO THE ER OR A = DOCTOR BUT=20 CONSULTED A LOCAL FRIEND
WHO IS A NURSE AND VISITED THEM AT HOME. I = GOT A=20 LOT OF THE SAME
RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ALL GAVE.

I AM TRYING=20 FAITHFULLY TO DO EVERYTHING THEY AND YOU ALL RECOMMENDED.
I'VE NOT = BEEN=20 ABLE TO GET THE SECOND SKIN STUFF YET. I WILL DO THAT = TOMORROW.
BEEN=20 KEEPING IT COOL AND MOIST WITH ICE AND ALOE -- BUT NOT TOO COLD. = TOO
MUCH=20 COLD HURTS AS MUCH AS NO COLD AT ALL.

TYPING IS A PAIN WITH = ONLY ONE=20 HAND. SO FORGIVE ME FOR NOT WRITING BACK
WITH MORE INFO. IF IT = WORSENS=20 TOMORROW I WILL DEFINITELY SEE A DOCTOR
SOMEHOW ANYWAY.

IT = LOOKS=20 LIKE BOISE IS GOING TO BE A SLIDE GUITAR AND AIRSYNTH GIG FOR = ME.
THANK=20 GOODNESS I HAVE JEFF ALONG. WE'LL SEE HOW THE WEEK GOES.

THANKS = FOR ALL=20 OF THE CONCERN AND KIND WISHES.

tEd =AE = kiLLiAn

"Different is not always = better,=20 but better is always=20 = different"

http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html
http://www.CDbaby.= com/cd/tedkillian
http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html
http://ww= w.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina
http://www.towerrecords.com/product= .aspx?pfid=3D2845073
http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBN= M_17314
http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D1= 93
http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_pro= file&id=3D121197000042

Ted=20 Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple = iTunes,
BuyMusic,=20 Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,
AudioLunchbox, = Lindows,=20 QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,
RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, = CatchMusic, Puretracks,
and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, = blah, blah.=20 So??? ------=_NextPart_000_0EA3_01C6665E.141669D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 05:33:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52E653BED5; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 05:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EIG3wmv/yiR03qJnEdH5VunxXCxomLSDVwDP1sC0NrhUi660otAgthAsoKVPIMRr8Ec/RaAoJoKRI0Y2ZNTh7Yj1UkNmNHLGt+IBpIQ3zVGY3eVuj9mfnNekopGTSB7hF2moZHSlR3BnXjMPB/myeiPaTOM1BhZFHSYFVAE1JZY= ; Message-ID: <20060423053311.25871.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:33:11 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: best looper? To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 05:33:13 +0000 (UTC) There's a great selection out there these days, it is true. I just saw some acts that made amazing use of a LoopStation and a DL-4. Might want to check out those. GigaDelay is another good cheap one if you want to go with a 2 looper setup. Don't forget the Boomerang too. --- edwin cleverdon wrote: > I'm new to this forum, and have learned a tremendous > amount in just the few > weeks I've been lurking. I hope you guys can help > guide me. I currently > play in sort of a free jazz improv group -- I'm the > designated "bass" player > (guitar w/octave pedal), and I often get loops going > to build up textural > rhythm tracks. I've been using an old Akai > Headrush, but it's quite > limited. > > I've been looking at the EH 2880, EH 16-sec delay, > boss rc-50, and the > someday-to-be-released repeater, which all seem to > be in the same general > price range, but reading the specs isn't as > enlightening as I could hope. > Also, its not really possible in Birmingham, Alabama > to pop into a music > store and demo these things (and certainly not the > ones that haven't been > released yet). > > Between the 16-sec and the 2880, as best as I can > tell, the 2880 seems to be > a deluxe 16-sec delay (and perhaps the only reason > to choose the 16-sec is > for the price). The boss looks good, in spite of > boss' best efforts to > market it as a shredder's buddy. And the repeater > looks good too, but it > may be more sophisticated than I need. > > Help! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN > Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 07:15:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09AFF3BED8; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: loopbozo@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:15:35 +0000 Message-Id: <042320060715.26304.444B2997000756C4000066C022007348300196010D9F010104@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bG9vcGJvem9AY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26304_1145776535_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:15:39 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26304_1145776535_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry to be late with this advice Ted but it could still help. First off always keep a bottle of Aloe Vera gel in your fridge for any and all burns, apply immediately, the pain relief is instant and the damage to skin greatly lessened. For the time frame you are in now you should obtain some MSM from a health food store and both dissolve it in water and soak the afflicted area as much as possible in that solution while also ingesting some to assist internally with healing the wound. A proper daily dose of Vitamin C is also essential to achieve maximum healing in a short time span with minimum scarring. My sister-in-law suffered 2nd and 3rd degree frostbite on her hands a few years ago and my wife nursed her back with these methods very effectively. I believe you could benefit from them greatly, best of luck bryan helm -- Music and Mosaics http://polyclay.com/Bryan.html --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26304_1145776535_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Sorry to be late with this advice Ted but it could still help. First off always keep a bottle of Aloe Vera gel in your fridge for any and all burns, apply immediately, the pain relief is instant and the damage to skin greatly lessened. For the time frame you are in now you should obtain some MSM from a health food store and both dissolve it in water and soak the afflicted area as much as possible in that solution while also ingesting some to assist internally with healing the wound. A proper daily dose of Vitamin C is also essential to achieve maximum healing in a short time span with minimum scarring. My sister-in-law suffered 2nd and 3rd degree frostbite on her hands a few years ago and my wife nursed her back with these methods very effectively. I believe you could benefit from them greatly, best of luck
 
                                                                  bryan helm
 
--
Music and Mosaics
http://polyclay.com/Bryan.html


--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26304_1145776535_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 07:25:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AD7D3BED8; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010e01c666a7$043a0280$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "INFO at mark francombe" To: References: <23ed1d6076dfdbe19a4a646ea64c69df@charter.net> Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:24:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Unsent: 1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010A_01C666B7.C79580F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:25:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01C666B7.C79580F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Being on the digest (and being on the other side of the world?) means I = get LD a bit late, but wanted to quickly chip in and wish you (Ted) a = speedy recovery, and I have one bit of extra advice that I'm surprised = no one suggested, RE: your up-coming gigs... PULL THEM NOW!!! CANCEL.... = NO gig is worth risking the pain and the damage you may do... ...and this thing about "no Insurance"... WHAT IS IT WITH YOU YANKS??? = Are you crazy? We in Europe can walk into the ER and say OUCH a couple = of times, and we are very proffesionally sorted, in the UK it was = completely free (all healthcare is... Doctors, Hospitals... maybe not = Dentists) now Im in Norway, there IS a nominal fee for each visit, = 200krone... about 13 dollars. DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN THE US? What IS the = government using it on? We have roads, an army, street cleaning, schools = too!!! This is why ALL my American friends are also Amateur Doctors... =20 I'm sorry guys but... "Second Skin"??? What IS THAT??? (Sounds like some = Sci Fi thing.. creepy) "Put Super glue on it"???? Are you lot MAD? And = PLEASE with the ALOE fucking VERA... it NOT a fucking pimple!!! OK OK.. they MAY be good products that may help BUT! TED!! Listen now..... RUN DONT WALK TO THE HOSPITAL, AND PAY THE FUCKING = BILL!!!!!=20 (Please excuse the bad language)=20 Take it easy and get well soon!!!! mark mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for = www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com ------=_NextPart_000_010A_01C666B7.C79580F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Being on the digest (and being on the = other side of=20 the world?) means I get LD a bit late, but wanted to quickly chip in and = wish=20 you (Ted) a speedy recovery, and I have one bit of extra advice that I'm = surprised no one suggested, RE: your up-coming gigs... PULL THEM NOW!!!=20 CANCEL.... NO gig is worth risking the pain and the damage you may=20 do...
 
<Telling off>
 
...and this thing about "no = Insurance"... WHAT IS=20 IT WITH YOU YANKS??? Are you crazy? We in Europe can walk into the ER = and say=20 OUCH a couple of times, and we are very proffesionally sorted, in the UK = it was=20 completely free (all healthcare is... Doctors, Hospitals... maybe not = Dentists)=20 now Im in Norway, there IS a nominal fee for each visit, 200krone... = about 13=20 dollars. DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN THE US? What IS the government using it = on? We=20 have roads, an army, street cleaning, schools too!!! This is why ALL my = American=20 friends are also Amateur Doctors... 
I'm sorry guys but... "Second Skin"??? = What IS=20 THAT??? (Sounds like some Sci Fi thing.. creepy)  "Put Super glue = on=20 it"???? Are you lot MAD? And PLEASE with the ALOE fucking VERA... it NOT = a=20 fucking pimple!!!
OK OK.. they MAY be good products that = may help=20 BUT!
 
TED!! Listen now..... RUN DONT = WALK TO THE=20 HOSPITAL, AND PAY THE FUCKING BILL!!!!!
 
</Telling off>
 
(Please excuse the bad = language) 
 
Take it easy and get well = soon!!!!
 
 
mark
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_010A_01C666B7.C79580F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 09:21:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93BE43BED8; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KP8WQn9YlD9BJJRKT60J3ic7UR8FTlj5lobjvdJ7XzOpnO1ezkknqEx7IhIgpsJrPo2DpS852CggqzOR2W1X9HluBQD8Sh8Ddie7DYKEYUxHzQpTWtZ636AxnCU+7pzOdGCJ66Bm9CQWN76IsTo7CIndJfA9582YzWJUZNWGzuk= ; Message-ID: <20060423092120.77698.qmail@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: International single space Power transformers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604221349i7c4e710fh54bd2e15096eb527@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-683775017-1145784080=:74594" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:21:21 +0000 (UTC) --0-683775017-1145784080=:74594 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi gang, Ive been looking for a single space rackmount 115v / 220v step up/ down transformer like the furman or juice goose and its hard to believe that there isnt something like that for the traveling musician,i have the compact seven star 200 but i want to minimize weight etc.has anyone found a better link? cheers Luis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-683775017-1145784080=:74594 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi gang,
Ive been looking for a single space rackmount 115v / 220v  step up/ down transformer like the furman or juice goose and its hard to believe that there isnt something like that for the traveling musician,i have the compact seven star 200 but i want to minimize weight etc.has anyone found a better link?
cheers
Luis

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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-683775017-1145784080=:74594-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 10:21:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23AB03BEDA; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009801c666bf$9b3423b0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <23ed1d6076dfdbe19a4a646ea64c69df@charter.net> <010e01c666a7$043a0280$5a01a8c0@mark> Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:20:53 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0095_01C666C7.FBA5F400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:21:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C666C7.FBA5F400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I won't hesitate to echo the urgency of Get Your Hand Treated Properly - = but I cannot agree with holding the UK's National Health up as a beacon = for anything but negligence and waste. They spend most of the money = they skive off the public purse on high salaries for executives, and = wasted something like =A3400m last year alone. The whole thing's a = bureaucracy so big one can hide behind it, and claim "it was someone = else's job". They almost killed me TWICE due to careless (and later = stupidly defensive) medication - only saved by the fact that my wife was = with me and kept on them to just do their bleeding jobs; and the = negligent staff at the NHS killed my mother-in-law this past November, = via the just-shoot-her-up-and-walk-away-so-who-cares method (Midazolam, = administered without telling us, she was dead in 16 hours, supposed to = be given with a crash cart ready in case of shock, and there was nobody = with her when she died). We now understand that an awful lot of elderly = folks don't come out of the hospital in the UK, a statistic that's just = coming to the surface. And that's without MRSA, a problem caused by a = lack of hygiene on the part of cleaners and nurses (though they were = quick to put up these alcogel wash-up stations for everyone to use, as = if dirty hands were the problem, an attempted projection on US when it's = THEM causing the cleanliness problem through their own sloth). The NHS = is a disaster just beginning to emerge, and lots of people are still = trying to hold it up like some kind of medical standard (is Hillary = Clinton still stupidly doing this?). So if you're in the UK try to stay healthy and Stay Out Of The Hospital = - or if you do have to go, take someone of an advocate with you, in case = they screw it up again and kill you by mistake. Sorry, had to say this. Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios ----- Original Message -----=20 From: INFO at mark francombe=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, 23 April, 2006 08:24 AM Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Being on the digest (and being on the other side of the world?) means = I get LD a bit late, but wanted to quickly chip in and wish you (Ted) a = speedy recovery, and I have one bit of extra advice that I'm surprised = no one suggested, RE: your up-coming gigs... PULL THEM NOW!!! CANCEL.... = NO gig is worth risking the pain and the damage you may do... ...and this thing about "no Insurance"... WHAT IS IT WITH YOU YANKS??? = Are you crazy? We in Europe can walk into the ER and say OUCH a couple = of times, and we are very proffesionally sorted, in the UK it was = completely free (all healthcare is... Doctors, Hospitals... maybe not = Dentists) now Im in Norway, there IS a nominal fee for each visit, = 200krone... about 13 dollars. DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN THE US? What IS the = government using it on? We have roads, an army, street cleaning, schools = too!!! This is why ALL my American friends are also Amateur Doctors... =20 I'm sorry guys but... "Second Skin"??? What IS THAT??? (Sounds like = some Sci Fi thing.. creepy) "Put Super glue on it"???? Are you lot MAD? = And PLEASE with the ALOE fucking VERA... it NOT a fucking pimple!!! OK OK.. they MAY be good products that may help BUT! TED!! Listen now..... RUN DONT WALK TO THE HOSPITAL, AND PAY THE = FUCKING BILL!!!!!=20 (Please excuse the bad language)=20 Take it easy and get well soon!!!! mark mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for = www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 15833 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C666C7.FBA5F400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I won't hesitate to echo the urgency of Get Your = Hand Treated=20 Properly - but I cannot agree with holding the UK's National Health up = as a=20 beacon for anything but negligence and waste.  They spend most of = the money=20 they skive off the public purse on high salaries for executives, and = wasted=20 something like =A3400m last year alone.  The whole thing's a = bureaucracy so=20 big one can hide behind it, and claim "it was someone else's job".  = They=20 almost killed me TWICE due to careless (and later stupidly defensive) = medication=20 - only saved by the fact that my wife was with me and kept on them to = just do=20 their bleeding jobs; and the negligent staff at the NHS killed my = mother-in-law=20 this past November, via the just-shoot-her-up-and-walk-away-so-who-cares = method=20 (Midazolam, administered without telling us, she was dead in 16 hours, = supposed=20 to be given with a crash cart ready in case of shock, and there was = nobody with=20 her when she died).  We now understand that an awful lot of elderly = folks=20 don't come out of the hospital in the UK, a statistic that's just coming = to the=20 surface.  And that's without MRSA, a problem caused by a lack of = hygiene on=20 the part of cleaners and nurses (though they were quick to put up these = alcogel=20 wash-up stations for everyone to use, as if dirty hands were the = problem, an=20 attempted projection on US when it's THEM causing the cleanliness = problem=20 through their own sloth).  The NHS is a disaster just beginning to = emerge,=20 and lots of people are still trying to hold it up like some kind of = medical=20 standard (is Hillary Clinton still stupidly doing this?).
 
So if you're in the UK try to stay healthy and Stay = Out Of The=20 Hospital - or if you do have to go, take someone of an advocate with = you, in=20 case they screw it up again and kill you by mistake.  Sorry, had to = say=20 this.
 
Stephen Goodman
 
* Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff
* http://www.earthlight.net/= HiddenTrack
*=20 The Loop Of The Week since 1996!
* http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 INFO at=20 mark francombe
To: loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, 23 April, 2006 = 08:24=20 AM
Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A = GUITARISTS=20 SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE

Being on the digest (and being on the = other side=20 of the world?) means I get LD a bit late, but wanted to quickly chip = in and=20 wish you (Ted) a speedy recovery, and I have one bit of extra advice = that I'm=20 surprised no one suggested, RE: your up-coming gigs... PULL THEM = NOW!!!=20 CANCEL.... NO gig is worth risking the pain and the damage you may=20 do...
 
<Telling off>
 
...and this thing about "no = Insurance"... WHAT IS=20 IT WITH YOU YANKS??? Are you crazy? We in Europe can walk into the ER = and say=20 OUCH a couple of times, and we are very proffesionally sorted, in the = UK it=20 was completely free (all healthcare is... Doctors, Hospitals... maybe = not=20 Dentists) now Im in Norway, there IS a nominal fee for each visit, = 200krone...=20 about 13 dollars. DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN THE US? What IS the government = using it=20 on? We have roads, an army, street cleaning, schools too!!! This is = why ALL my=20 American friends are also Amateur Doctors... 
I'm sorry guys but... "Second = Skin"??? What IS=20 THAT??? (Sounds like some Sci Fi thing.. creepy)  "Put Super glue = on=20 it"???? Are you lot MAD? And PLEASE with the ALOE fucking VERA... it = NOT a=20 fucking pimple!!!
OK OK.. they MAY be good products = that may help=20 BUT!
 
TED!! Listen now..... RUN DONT = WALK TO THE=20 HOSPITAL, AND PAY THE FUCKING BILL!!!!!
 
</Telling off>
 
(Please excuse the bad=20 language) 
 
Take it easy and get well = soon!!!!
 
 
mark
 
 
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marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he = writes for www.furthernoise.org and = works at www.transformlearning.com

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------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C666C7.FBA5F400-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 11:11:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C66F83BED2; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jqQ/qVhe1p/lLtdhAH2A7LMfPE4aryU0ShNyZQM7vVGj0xgwniHoME8HRfbtNmvu9zXm40P41HjRhUKIM+uzOfbdnLdtzKUPyBnvxtJaejbkJdCBVRa/51+Uu8P0nneMy02d7Z2IdkJ6ZXB6/WuVTpMDjMWrW57DaoWT8ax5zwI= Message-ID: <353e2ed80604230411i5241d294i5dc06352efaf207c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:11:39 +0100 From: "David Morton" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: best looper? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:11:40 +0000 (UTC) On 4/23/06, edwin cleverdon wrote: > Between the 16-sec and the 2880, as best as I can tell, the 2880 seems to= be > a deluxe 16-sec delay (and perhaps the only reason to choose the 16-sec i= s > for the price). I'd respectfully disagree with this analysis: Control of feedback setting on the 16s is very straightforward, the same cannot be said for the 2880. I'd recommend trying them both, they're very differen't. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 13:28:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D15B3BEC5; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002301c666d9$c4b76ed0$d2e14744@BlackDell> From: "Paul" To: Subject: RC-50 Features Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:28:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C666B8.3D598390" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:28:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C666B8.3D598390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey: I have an Boss RC-50 on order and have been thinking about how to use it = prior to its (hopeful) arrival in May. Their terminology is confusing me. They have pedals marked 'patch up' = and 'patch down'. I'm assuming this is the 'loop up/down', correct? = Also, does anyone know how the next loop (patch) functions? i.e. does it = play the last loop til completion and jump to the next? There's 3 stereo loops and I'm trying to design how I'd use the three = loops (as opposed to pure overdubbing that I had done in the past using = different instruments-i.e. percussion, drums, etc.). It appears that I = could use one of the 'phrases' (to use Boss's terminology) to laydown = drums and/or percussion. Another for, say, bass. The third for various = guitar or keyboard backing. I'm also assuming the loops/phrases are set = at the same loop length (?). The device also makes statements re: MIDI clocking. What I read, I'm = understanding it can be sync'ed to an external clock but can it generate = clocking to sync a rhythm device to match tempo with the RC-50? Anyhow, I'm trying to map its functionality to an EDP's (which I once = had). Thanks for your advice/comments. Regards, Paul ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C666B8.3D598390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey:
 
I have an Boss RC-50 on order and have = been=20 thinking about how to use it prior to its (hopeful) arrival in = May.
 
Their terminology is confusing me. They = have pedals=20 marked 'patch up' and 'patch down'. I'm assuming this is the 'loop = up/down',=20 correct? Also, does anyone know how the next loop (patch) functions? = i.e. does=20 it play the last loop til completion and jump to the next?
 
There's 3 stereo loops and I'm trying = to design how=20 I'd use the three loops (as opposed to pure overdubbing that I had done = in the=20 past using different instruments-i.e. percussion, drums, etc.). It = appears that=20 I could use one of the 'phrases' (to use Boss's terminology) to laydown = drums=20 and/or percussion. Another for, say, bass. The third for various guitar = or=20 keyboard backing. I'm also assuming the loops/phrases are set at the = same loop=20 length (?).
 
The device also makes statements re: = MIDI clocking.=20 What I read, I'm understanding it can be sync'ed to an external clock = but can it=20 generate clocking to sync a rhythm device to match tempo with the=20 RC-50?
 
Anyhow, I'm trying to map its = functionality to an=20 EDP's (which I once had).
 
Thanks for your = advice/comments.
 
Regards, = Paul
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C666B8.3D598390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 14:32:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C89363BECA; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <010e01c666a7$043a0280$5a01a8c0@mark> References: <23ed1d6076dfdbe19a4a646ea64c69df@charter.net> <010e01c666a7$043a0280$5a01a8c0@mark> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--8356808 Message-Id: <15B53ED9-CBD9-4E5E-AE08-F712E3351A1A@midway.uchicago.edu> From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:29:27 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:32:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--8356808 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > ...and this thing about "no Insurance"... WHAT IS IT WITH YOU > YANKS??? Are you crazy? Yes. > DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN THE US? Yes. Federal, State and local in most cases. > What IS the government using it on? Well, you see, there is this billion dollar a week war we've got going on... Jeff --Apple-Mail-1--8356808 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Yes.=A0

=A0DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN = THE US?

Yes. Federal, State and local in = most cases.

What IS the government = using it on?

Well, you see, there is this = billion dollar a week war we've got going on...

Jeff
= --Apple-Mail-1--8356808-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 14:42:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A9633BED2; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:42:08 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000c01c666e4$199c2d00$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C666F4.DD24FD00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <15B53ED9-CBD9-4E5E-AE08-F712E3351A1A@midway.uchicago.edu> Thread-Index: AcZm4sYrCV0EgrmTS6u4iNojap1E3wAARubg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:42:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C666F4.DD24FD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey, it's still better than in Germany. There taxes are spent on financing the US' wars, on giving submarines with the capability to carry cruise missiles with nuclear warheads to Israel as a gift, on financing the most expensive government and administration in the world... _____ Von: Jeff Shirkey [mailto:jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu] Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. April 2006 16:29 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE ...and this thing about "no Insurance"... WHAT IS IT WITH YOU YANKS??? Are you crazy? Yes. DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN THE US? Yes. Federal, State and local in most cases. What IS the government using it on? Well, you see, there is this billion dollar a week war we've got going on... Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C666F4.DD24FD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey, it's still better than in Germany. There = taxes are=20 spent on financing the US' wars, on giving submarines with the = capability to=20 carry cruise missiles with nuclear warheads to Israel as a gift, on = financing=20 the most expensive government and administration in the=20 world...

Von: Jeff Shirkey=20 [mailto:jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu]
Gesendet: Sonntag, = 23. April=20 2006 16:29
An:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Re: [LOOP] OT = -- A=20 GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE


...and this thing = about "no=20 Insurance"... WHAT IS IT WITH YOU YANKS??? Are you=20 crazy?

Yes.

DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN = THE=20 US?

Yes. Federal, State and = local in=20 most cases.

What IS the government = using it=20 on?

Well, you see, there is = this=20 billion dollar a week war we've got going on...

Jeff
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C666F4.DD24FD00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 15:36:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41C283BEB5; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=chPmCSkACtp809khdEJWwVT16xuKeIXkXMMTlnaFgiiNZAjy9QNjuyY+CCqu3XfsjS5ZoH8KFrgHLVcfrDKvb0FXGuOBk5dm3veG4soOREgxxzQ9N0zLOtR7k4A99dtpGeayT8h7IP4ksJDjgdrTWdFVYDGLMnQzUqqEm+qT4YI= In-Reply-To: <002301c666d9$c4b76ed0$d2e14744@BlackDell> References: <002301c666d9$c4b76ed0$d2e14744@BlackDell> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: RC-50 Features Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:36:42 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <-x9gWC.A.rjD.P85SEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:36:48 +0000 (UTC) On 23 apr 2006, at 15.28, Paul wrote: > Their terminology is confusing me. Me too. Have you been able to find a detailed PDF manual yet? I was =20 searching all over the not but didn't find one. > They have pedals marked 'patch up' and 'patch down'. I'm assuming =20 > this is the 'loop up/down', correct? I would guess not. Only Roland knows what they mean by "a patch". =20 Probably doesn't equal "a loop". > Also, does anyone know how the next loop (patch) functions? i.e. =20 > does it play the last loop til completion and jump to the next? I didn't see any such function listed. > There's 3 stereo loops and I'm trying to design how I'd use the =20 > three loops (as opposed to pure overdubbing that I had done in the =20 > past using different instruments-i.e. percussion, drums, etc.). It =20 > appears that I could use one of the 'phrases' (to use Boss's =20 > terminology) to laydown drums and/or percussion. Another for, say, =20 > bass. The third for various guitar or keyboard backing. I'm also =20 > assuming the loops/phrases are set at the same loop length (?). Yes, in "single mode" that is correct, although they seem not to play =20= together but rather one after the other (may this be the answer for =20 your "next loop" question?). But in "multi mode" all three phrases =20 can play back at the same time. I'm not sure about if the brochure =20 means that three simultaneous phrases can be of different length or =20 if they work together like parallel multiplied cycles (like on a =20 repeater; "four tracks but still one loop"). However, this text indicates that the three phrases are indeed three =20 different loops: >> The RC-50 has plenty of other noteworthy features on offer, for =20 >> example: Phrases can be played forward or backward. Phrases can be =20= >> retriggered in =93free time=94 or on a time-aligned grid. Errors can =20= >> be corrected on the fly with the Undo/Redo switch > The device also makes statements re: MIDI clocking. What I read, =20 > I'm understanding it can be sync'ed to an external clock but can it =20= > generate clocking to sync a rhythm device to match tempo with the =20 > RC-50? Yes. Acroding to the document linked below, the RC-50 can both sync =20 to incoming MIDI clock and send out MIDI clock for syncing other gear. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?=20 id=3D120667141&s=3D143456 But maybe you'll find that you won't need any rhythm device with it? =20 The brochure boasts "379 play-along Rhythm Guide Patterns". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 16:17:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34D563BEC2; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Z4XAfb9p3K9wLm2+6/k+4V9v8HdT15box0UuuegZDuutosKZ1CfvBoCco6FePjH2; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:22:37 -0700 Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1566595 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Sheila Olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6110EBC4-D2E5-11DA-A903-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd4850a6348c65f20ca187dd4657434c363c548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.116.50 Resent-Message-ID: <6xodYB.A.MTF.Pi6SEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:17:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--1566595 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ted, Sorry to hear about the injury. No advise..... Get well soon. joe On Saturday, April 22, 2006, at 04:51 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! > > I AM TYPING THIS MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS (AND ONE-HANDED) FOR > A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST BURNT MY LEFT HAND RATHER > BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. CRAP! > CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO. > > HAVE OU EVER LEFT AN IRON TO SIT TOO LONG ON AN IRONING > BOARD WHILE IT WAS WARMING UP, OR TURNED AWAY FROM ONE > FOR A SECOND ONLY TO SEE A BROWN SINGE MARK ON YOUR > FAVORITE SHIRT WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP? > > THAT'S WHAT THE TIPS OF MY LEFT HAND FINGERS LOOKED LIKE > WHEN I FELT THE HEAT AND PULLED IT AWAY FROM THE MOWER > I WAS TRYING TO LEAN DOWN AND ADJUST. THERE ARE BIG NASTY > BLISTERS NOW FORMED UNDER THE BROWN SINGED PADS OF THE > FIRST THREE FINGERS. FINGERS AND PADS I NORMALLY USE FOR > FRETTING A GUITAR AS IT HAPPENS . . . AND TYPING ON A COMPUTER. > > THE PAIN WHEN I TAKE THE BAG OF ICE AWAY IS INDESCRIBABLE -- > EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS TO COME IN WAVES. I'M TYPING BETWEEN > THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT KIDDING. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO > CRAP! IT'S HARD NOT TO LAUGH AT MY OWN GROSS STUPIDITY. > I HAVE TEENAGE SONS. THEY SHOULD BE MOWING THE LAWN > FER #$%&*!@! SAKES! > > ANYWHO, ARE THERE ANY GOOD HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES OUT > THERE FOR MINOR BURNS OF THIS TYPE . . . OTHER THAN TYLENOL > AND ALCOHOL AND LIBERALLY APPLIED ICE PACKS? HAS ANYONE > BEEN IN A SIMILAR FIX? I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A TRIP TO > THE EMERGENCY, I HAVE NO INSURANCE ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT > REALLY AN OPTION. > > I HAVE A GIG IN BOISE, IDAHO IN SIX DAYS AND ONE IN VENTURA, > CALIFORNIA THE FOLLOWING, WEEK AND ONE BACK IN OREGON > AFTER THAT. I DON'T PLAN ON SWITCHING TO THEREMIN OR AIR > SYNTH AT THE LAST MINUTE. HEHEHEHEHEH, OW! CRAP! CRAP! > CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! > > I GUESS I COULD PLAY SLIDE GUITAR IF THE BURNS DONT HEAL > ENOUGH TO BE USEABLE. I WAS A FAIR SLIDE PLAYER (ONCE UPON > A TIME) ALTHOUGH IT'S A TECHNIQUE THAT I'D SET ASIDE IN FAVOR > OF OTHER THINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. > > I SUPPOSE A GUITARISTS FIRST WORST NIGHTMARE IS A LOSS OF FINGERS. > SO IT COULD BE WORSE I SUPPOSE. ANY GOOD IDEAS? YOU FOLKS ARE > MY TRIBE. IF ANYONE HAS A BRIGHT IDEA I'D BE GLAD TO HEAR OF IT. > THE SHOW MUST GO ON -- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. > > tEd =AE kiLLiAn > > "Different is not always better, but better is always different" > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/=20 > profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???= --Apple-Mail-2--1566595 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ted, Sorry to hear about the injury.=20 No advise..... Get well soon. joe On Saturday, April 22, 2006, at 04:51 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! I AM TYPING THIS MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS (AND ONE-HANDED) FOR=20 A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST BURNT MY LEFT HAND RATHER=20 BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. CRAP!=20 CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO. HAVE OU EVER LEFT AN IRON TO SIT TOO LONG ON AN IRONING=20 BOARD WHILE IT WAS WARMING UP, OR TURNED AWAY FROM ONE=20 FOR A SECOND ONLY TO SEE A BROWN SINGE MARK ON YOUR=20 FAVORITE SHIRT WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP?=20 THAT'S WHAT THE TIPS OF MY LEFT HAND FINGERS LOOKED LIKE=20 WHEN I FELT THE HEAT AND PULLED IT AWAY FROM THE MOWER=20 I WAS TRYING TO LEAN DOWN AND ADJUST. THERE ARE BIG NASTY=20 BLISTERS NOW FORMED UNDER THE BROWN SINGED PADS OF THE=20 FIRST THREE FINGERS. FINGERS AND PADS I NORMALLY USE FOR=20 FRETTING A GUITAR AS IT HAPPENS . . . AND TYPING ON A COMPUTER. THE PAIN WHEN I TAKE THE BAG OF ICE AWAY IS INDESCRIBABLE -- EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS TO COME IN WAVES. I'M TYPING BETWEEN=20 THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT KIDDING. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO=20 CRAP! IT'S HARD NOT TO LAUGH AT MY OWN GROSS STUPIDITY. I HAVE TEENAGE SONS. THEY SHOULD BE MOWING THE LAWN FER #$%&*!@! SAKES! ANYWHO, ARE THERE ANY GOOD HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES OUT=20 THERE FOR MINOR BURNS OF THIS TYPE . . . OTHER THAN TYLENOL=20 AND ALCOHOL AND LIBERALLY APPLIED ICE PACKS? HAS ANYONE=20 BEEN IN A SIMILAR FIX? I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A TRIP TO THE EMERGENCY, I HAVE NO INSURANCE ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT=20 REALLY AN OPTION. I HAVE A GIG IN BOISE, IDAHO IN SIX DAYS AND ONE IN VENTURA, CALIFORNIA THE FOLLOWING, WEEK AND ONE BACK IN OREGON AFTER THAT. I DON'T PLAN ON SWITCHING TO THEREMIN OR AIR=20 SYNTH AT THE LAST MINUTE. HEHEHEHEHEH, OW! CRAP! CRAP!=20 CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! I GUESS I COULD PLAY SLIDE GUITAR IF THE BURNS DONT HEAL ENOUGH TO BE USEABLE. I WAS A FAIR SLIDE PLAYER (ONCE UPON=20 A TIME) ALTHOUGH IT'S A TECHNIQUE THAT I'D SET ASIDE IN FAVOR=20 OF OTHER THINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. I SUPPOSE A GUITARISTS FIRST WORST NIGHTMARE IS A LOSS OF FINGERS. SO IT COULD BE WORSE I SUPPOSE. ANY GOOD IDEAS? YOU FOLKS ARE MY TRIBE. IF ANYONE HAS A BRIGHT IDEA I'D BE GLAD TO HEAR OF IT. THE SHOW MUST GO ON -- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. tEd =AE kiLLiAn 807F,807F,807F"Different is not always better, but better is always different" http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. = So???= --Apple-Mail-2--1566595-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 16:30:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E1A83BEC1; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005c01c6666e$98ee7d40$0207a8c0@eluk1> References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> <005c01c6666e$98ee7d40$0207a8c0@eluk1> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:30:15 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: airplane baggage Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:30:50 +0000 (UTC) At 1:41 AM +0100 4/23/06, Stephen Goodman wrote: >In this case I would say the safety aspect was there before someone >decided to make more money than they used to for excess weight. It sounds like you're assuming that no-one on the list actually flies enough to notice a difference. And, if we do, that this "safety concern" is only recently a safety concern and nobody ever thought about how to balance luggage prior to a month ago. Um, yeah... Speaking personally, I'd say I've spent the majority of my working time for this millennium living on a damn plane (gack!). Before I cashed out all my stock options and "retired" in mid-2005, I'd already made both Gold on American and 100k on United, amongst others. Those two alone are worth ~125,000 miles in the air, from only January to May 2005. I've flown a lot (oh, BTW, did I mention I'm writing this from Kyoto right now, and my home airport is O'hare?). I can tell you that there was never such a big "safety concern" to the US domestic carriers in at least six years prior to March of this year. Now, it's changing. Whether the carriers have found a sudden new interest in safety, or whether they're merely looking for another spiff to offset rising fuel prices, I dunno. I know which explanation I'm leaning toward, but you can draw your own conclusion.... --m. -- _______ "I want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 16:35:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 489A73BEDF; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <2e7.583a0ea.317d06bc@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:35:08 EDT Subject: yo yo yo eh? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2e7.583a0ea.317d06bc_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:35:14 +0000 (UTC) --part1_2e7.583a0ea.317d06bc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yo kiddies.....i'm off to hilton head (actually bluffton) tamari for about a week.....my bro is putting me on his tab seeing that i am an unemployed degenerate american looper.....anything going on in that neck of de woods this next week?.....i'm taking my rang, guitar, 2 inekos and a small amp, should drive my bro nutz after the first day!.....i always believed in biteing the hand that feeds me, they never give me enuf to eat so.....:).....i will be out of internet communication till i get back but the phone # i'll be at will be 724-766-1486.....so if anything is happening give me a buzz or let's just get together and drink buckets-o-gin.....:)michael the klobuchar P.S. i never got TED's original post as to his mishap.....TEDZO what the heck did you do? where you playing too fast again, i warned you about that you mad man!.....hope all is well, get better real soon xoxo! www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_2e7.583a0ea.317d06bc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yo kiddies.....i'm off to hilton head (= actually bluffton) tamari for about a week.....my bro is putting me on his t= ab seeing that i am an unemployed degenerate american looper.....anything go= ing on in that neck of de woods this next week?.....i'm taking my rang, guit= ar, 2 inekos and a small amp, should drive my bro nutz after the first day!.= ....i always believed in biteing the hand that feeds me, they never give me=20= enuf to eat so.....:).....i will be out of internet communication till i get= back but the phone # i'll be at will be 724-766-1486.....so if anything is=20= happening give me a buzz or let's just get together and drink buckets-o-gin.= ....:)michael the klobuchar
P.S. i never got TED's original post as to his mishap.....TEDZO what the hec= k did you do? where you playing too fast again, i warned you about that you=20= mad man!.....hope all is well, get better real soon xoxo!



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 --part1_2e7.583a0ea.317d06bc_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 16:38:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F84D3BEDB; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> <005c01c6666e$98ee7d40$0207a8c0@eluk1> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:37:56 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: airplane baggage Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Erm, re-reading that, it probably comes off a bit bitchier than I intended. I'm just now coming in after a night of geisha and sake, so that's probably altering my delivery. Sorry.... --m. At 1:30 AM +0900 4/24/06, mech wrote: >At 1:41 AM +0100 4/23/06, Stephen Goodman wrote: >>In this case I would say the safety aspect was there before someone >>decided to make more money than they used to for excess weight. > >It sounds like you're assuming that no-one on the list actually >flies enough to notice a difference. And, if we do, that this >"safety concern" is only recently a safety concern and nobody ever >thought about how to balance luggage prior to a month ago. Um, >yeah... > >Speaking personally, I'd say I've spent the majority of my working >time for this millennium living on a damn plane (gack!). Before I >cashed out all my stock options and "retired" in mid-2005, I'd >already made both Gold on American and 100k on United, amongst >others. Those two alone are worth ~125,000 miles in the air, from >only January to May 2005. > >I've flown a lot (oh, BTW, did I mention I'm writing this from Kyoto >right now, and my home airport is O'hare?). I can tell you that >there was never such a big "safety concern" to the US domestic >carriers in at least six years prior to March of this year. Now, >it's changing. Whether the carriers have found a sudden new >interest in safety, or whether they're merely looking for another >spiff to offset rising fuel prices, I dunno. I know which >explanation I'm leaning toward, but you can draw your own >conclusion.... > > --m. > >-- >_______ >"I want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 19:15:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E74A3BEC5; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=a8Of3CKiqhc1A/WHsHpVatcDk3Vg/vHttKmM6VAFROFx4/+DtrZ2JPDnLLWEAhqtd+Ras8DH4u1ZF4PCp7PFPw+OMpOlovHzhMA4l0gv2n8TXmDgBJRnByIPyKvsdiE+je1lEcYZOZpMnUgQBadTxNFMYILpUPo2OpUjLvr7iA0= ; From: "murkie" To: Subject: RE: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:15:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C666E8.C22665E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <6110EBC4-D2E5-11DA-A903-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> Thread-Index: AcZm8WXvzc4Iflf4Rt+c7zadXiqpPwAGHfWA Message-Id: <20060423191531.EDD693BEAF@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:15:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C666E8.C22665E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit one other bit of advice for any musician who uses their hands for music and other activities (and i'm so sorry this is too late to help Ted). buy a pair of medium to heavy duty work gloves if yer gonna work outside. (from a guitarist who lives in an apple orchard ) m ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C666E8.C22665E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C666E8.C22665E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 20:36:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECB933BEC2; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CZulDwxpja0oi9vJSUk42uSu3cddOxA8tS+oQUOuxmafdnSESqO/HXiRdIlHRtpeUR9ZljKOj6yISk8CKdAlNieK3BndfTKOdGsEN3zaDxPMrxyso6AiVRJi18V41BO9Uxtp6nGAElZAHFDIKVUIiidTIcrXrGeyD68qxEZZcPQ= ; Message-ID: <20060423203651.51785.qmail@web60613.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:36:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Fata Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060423013442.0D66C3BEDA@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Lavender oil. Miracle worker! My wife is completely up on the alt cures/ways of healing. It works. Good luck to you. HTH, Fred __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 20:43:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6E223BEB2; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,150,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="1046928807:sNHT33439316" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <2e7.583a0ea.317d06bc@aol.com> References: <2e7.583a0ea.317d06bc@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-14155305 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: yo yo yo eh? Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:44:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:43:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-14155305 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed SCOOTS, I BURNT ALL 4 TIPS OF MT LEFT HAND FINGERS ON THE HOT MUFFLER OF A GAS POWERED LAWN-MOWER. SORTTA SINGED LIGHT BROWN AND NOW HAVE NASTY BLISTERS ON 3 OUT OF FOUR FINGERS (MY PINKY SEEMS TO HASE ONLY BEEN SLIGHTLY AND SUPERFICIALLY CRISPED.THE PAIN HAS DIED DOWN TO TOLERABLE LEVELS. I AM OKAY, BUT WILL ONLY LIKELY BE ABLE TO USE MY THUMB AND PINKY FOR FRETTING IN BOISE NEXT WEEKEND. I AM SOOOO BUMMED . . . AND GENERALLY PISSED AT MYSELF FOR LETTING THIS HAPPEN. WASSUP? WHY ARE YOU UNEMPLOYED? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REGULAR GIG WITH THE FANCY EATERY -- IF YOU DON'T MIND MY ASKIN'? WHAT'S THE LOWDOWN IN SCOOTERVILLE THESE DAYS? TED On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > P.S. i never got TED's original post as to his mishap.....TEDZO what > the heck did you do? where you playing too fast again, i warned you > about that you mad man!.....hope all is well, get better real soon > xoxo! --Apple-Mail-3-14155305 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII SCOOTS, I BURNT ALL 4 TIPS OF MT LEFT HAND FINGERS ON THE HOT MUFFLER OF A GAS POWERED LAWN-MOWER. SORTTA SINGED LIGHT BROWN AND NOW HAVE NASTY BLISTERS ON 3 OUT OF FOUR FINGERS (MY PINKY SEEMS TO HASE ONLY BEEN SLIGHTLY AND SUPERFICIALLY CRISPED.THE PAIN HAS DIED DOWN TO TOLERABLE LEVELS. I AM OKAY, BUT WILL ONLY LIKELY BE ABLE TO USE MY THUMB AND PINKY FOR FRETTING IN BOISE NEXT WEEKEND. I AM SOOOO BUMMED . . . AND GENERALLY PISSED AT MYSELF FOR LETTING THIS HAPPEN. WASSUP? WHY ARE YOU UNEMPLOYED? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REGULAR GIG WITH THE FANCY EATERY -- IF YOU DON'T MIND MY ASKIN'? WHAT'S THE LOWDOWN IN SCOOTERVILLE THESE DAYS? TED On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: Geneva P.S. i never got TED's original post as to his mishap.....TEDZO what the heck did you do? where you playing too fast again, i warned you about that you mad man!.....hope all is well, get better real soon xoxo! --Apple-Mail-3-14155305-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 21:31:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 753773BECA; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3bd.111f4d3.317d4c09@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:30:49 EDT Subject: ouch eh? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3bd.111f4d3.317d4c09_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:31:02 +0000 (UTC) --part1_3bd.111f4d3.317d4c09_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tedzo.....sorry to hear about your mishap, bummer as we use to say as kids.....i'm having total knee replacement on both knees.....i have been out of work since jan. waiting rather than waitering.....i could hardly walk after the holidaze.....i'm so broke!.....i hope to get S.S. Disability, but nothing yet, it takes forever.....i'm good till june then i go belly-up, i will be tapped out so keep your FINGERS crossed if you can still do this.....as a kid i was put in charge watching a 50 gal. drum of burning stuff, this began to fall over and i stopped it with my fingers, needless to say, bad move.....i go running into the house and my dad sez "hold your hands over the fiire on the stove".....what a clown he was!.....:).....no at all like all of the HERR DOCTOR LOOPS that sent you their get better formulas.....what a caring bunch o people we seem to be, no?.....got to pack and get ready for my ride down south.....can't wait to go to SHAVANNA (sp?), kool city!.....ahhhh the ocean, touches this old salts heart.....fun, until my bro takes my guitar away, he'll have to pull it from my dead fingers i tell ya!.....still go to BOISE is my recomendation and enjoy the company, maphaps you can still sing and dance or just play foot!.....:)m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 --part1_3bd.111f4d3.317d4c09_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tedzo.....sorry to hear about your mish= ap, bummer as we use to say as kids.....i'm having total knee replacement on= both knees.....i have been out of work since jan. waiting rather than waite= ring.....i could hardly walk after the holidaze.....i'm so broke!.....i hope= to get S.S. Disability, but nothing yet, it takes forever.....i'm good till= june then i go belly-up, i will be tapped out so keep your FINGERS crossed=20= if you can still do this.....as a kid i was put in charge watching a 50 gal.= drum of burning stuff, this began to fall over and i stopped it with my fin= gers, needless to say, bad move.....i go running into the house and my dad s= ez "hold your hands over the fiire on the stove".....what a clown he was!...= ..:).....no at all like all of the HERR DOCTOR LOOPS that sent you their get= better formulas.....what a caring bunch o people we seem to be, no?.....got= to pack and get ready for my ride down south.....can't wait to go to SHAVAN= NA (sp?), kool city!.....ahhhh the ocean, touches this old salts heart.....f= un, until my bro takes my guitar away, he'll have to pull it from my dead fi= ngers i tell ya!.....still go to BOISE is my recomendation and enjoy the com= pany, maphaps you can still sing and dance or just play foot!.....:)m



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 --part1_3bd.111f4d3.317d4c09_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 22:30:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76D203BECF; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <444C0008.9010203@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:30:32 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 Features References: <002301c666d9$c4b76ed0$d2e14744@BlackDell> In-Reply-To: <002301c666d9$c4b76ed0$d2e14744@BlackDell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Hello Paul, > Hey: > > I have an Boss RC-50 on order and have been thinking about how to use > it prior to its (hopeful) arrival in May. > > Their terminology is confusing me. They have pedals marked 'patch up' > and 'patch down'. I'm assuming this is the 'loop up/down', correct? > Also, does anyone know how the next loop (patch) functions? i.e. does > it play the last loop til completion and jump to the next? I think this is basically loop (or loops) up/down - I tested the RC50 at Musikmesse Frankfurt but I'm not quite sure if I remember it the right way... A patch in Roland/Boss terminology is kind of "something stored in memory" - the roland synthesizers store "sounds" as patches, including all parameters like sample, filter envelope, effects, controllers etc. I think a stored patch in the RC-50 includes the three loops, the settings like "single or multiple", drumbeat settings and so on. > There's 3 stereo loops and I'm trying to design how I'd use the three > loops (as opposed to pure overdubbing that I had done in the past > using different instruments-i.e. percussion, drums, etc.). It appears > that I could use one of the 'phrases' (to use Boss's terminology) to > laydown drums and/or percussion. Another for, say, bass. The third for > various guitar or keyboard backing. I'm also assuming the > loops/phrases are set at the same loop length (?). You could use the three loops the way you mentioned first in multiple mode. I assume this couldn't be done with different looop lengths. In single mode you need different loop lenghts if you want to use it for building complete song structures as the different parts of a song will not all have the same lenghts. > > The device also makes statements re: MIDI clocking. What I read, I'm > understanding it can be sync'ed to an external clock but can it > generate clocking to sync a rhythm device to match tempo with the RC-50? Yes, that's what I've read, too. > > Anyhow, I'm trying to map its functionality to an EDP's (which I once > had). > As I'm just starting to deal with loop devices/software (by now: Mobius) I can't really compare the RC-50 and the EDP. I've only read the EDP manual to get into Mobius and think that the approach to looping is quite different... Maybe one could say the RC-50 is kind of a loop sampler and the EDP a very comfortable loop delay ?! For instance, I don't know if you can control something like feedback with the RC-50. > Thanks for your advice/comments. > > Regards, Paul Greetings from Germany, Dirk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 22:45:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F7B43BED2; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003e01c66727$9a642e40$3336d255@homemain> From: "Dan Mayfield" To: References: Subject: OT - new track added Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:45:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi all I've added a new track on my website, its all done live in the name of looping! www.danmayfield.co.uk hope you enjoy! Cheers, take care Dan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 23 22:46:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CA8B3BECA; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:48:13 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: more tuba loopage example/sample Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:46:29 +0000 (UTC) More work today on the as-yet-unnamed tuba+fx session (he plays tuba, I live-sample/loop/process the loops) project that I thought I'd share. http://www.subscapeannex.com/tuba/tuba_2_23apr2006-mp3.mp3 All audio recorded through tuba, including the scat-like vocal bits. Still clipping in places, but the use of the Rolls Buzz-Off as the last line of defense pre-recording cleans up the recording in comparison to last session. No editing or overdubs other than trimming off about ten seconds of silence at the beginning and end of each loop. Gear babble: We tried something new with recording the clean tuba direct. New rig: a) Mic thrown down bell of tuba into top of effects chain (long, previously mentioned , will spare you the repetition). Signal chain outputs to mixer (panned L). b) Room mic aimed at tuba bell into volume pedal, then into Z-Vex SHO (it was a little quiet, wanted the signal boost), then into mixer (panned R). Doing this allows him to fade in the clean tuba signal once I get caught up in manipulating the captured samples with the effects and loopers. c) RCA tape out stereo jacks run to Rolls Buzz-Off hum reducer. d) Rolls RCA stereo out to stereo RCA input of Gemini iKey. After that it's: disconnect 1GB flashdrive from iKey, attach to Powerbook, trim aforementioned ten seconds of silence off using QuickTime Pro, drop wav file into iTunes, convert to mp3, upload to server, write email :). Oh, and for the more than one person who mentioned Tom Heasley in response to my last post: I have kept my word, bought and enjoyed all three of Tom's albums since then. Thank you all for suggesting I listen to his work. best, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/about_steve.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 00:51:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 666623BECA; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:53:29 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Jokes (Was: Music Scene) In-Reply-To: <63BC4716.29177248.59DF470E@netscape.net> Message-ID: References: <63BC4716.29177248.59DF470E@netscape.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Resent-Message-ID: <60v3P.A.kVE.SECTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:51:30 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Tony Douglas wrote: > PS. The hang with Electrix's web site - is there a web site with a > canonical set of musician gags ??? Here's one: http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/jokes/ best, Steve B http://www.subscapeannex.com/about_steve.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 01:31:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26F393BEC2; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hyCMLipE2llDm6tlxDqolXO2XTvbOLLQSHs0qct1MI1pdXxEQpqnZJqg+Visb9E3; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <410-22006412413159910@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.1.47.0 (Windows) From: "Timothy Mungenast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:31:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da94049e12584f443f193eb2b80bc150453f8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.148.20.27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Stephen, in spite of my liberal leanings, I must admit that I found your first-hand report an eye-opener. And sad. Sorry about your mother-in-law... and about your own brushes with death. Reminds me about how one of my late father's friends was living in the USSR as an expat American, full of optimism about the socialized system, but when she got sick and had to be hospitalized, nobody emptied her bedpan... you see, nobody clued her to the fact that every service in a Soviet hospital required a bribe. When she got wise to this reality, things improved greatly for her. (My dad made many business trips to the USSR and had lots of great stories.) Not having ever been in a UK hospital, I am not qualified to compare the care to US hospital care, but I will say that here in the "yer on your own" USA, sometimes I and my loved ones have had medical procedures royally fucked up after having paid through the nose for them. (I permanently lost much of the function in my left eye as a result of one dodgy doctor, f'rinstance.) Yours in Zoom, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Goodman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: 4/23/2006 6:21:08 AM Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE I won't hesitate to echo the urgency of Get Your Hand Treated Properly - but I cannot agree with holding the UK's National Health up as a beacon for anything but negligence and waste. They spend most of the money they skive off the public purse on high salaries for executives, and wasted something like £400m last year alone. The whole thing's a bureaucracy so big one can hide behind it, and claim "it was someone else's job". They almost killed me TWICE due to careless (and later stupidly defensive) medication - only saved by the fact that my wife was with me and kept on them to just do their bleeding jobs; and the negligent staff at the NHS killed my mother-in-law this past November, via the just-shoot-her-up-and-walk-away-so-who-cares method (Midazolam, administered without telling us, she was dead in 16 hours, supposed to be given with a crash cart ready in case of shock, and there was nobody with her when she died). We now understand that an awful lot of elderly folks don't come out of the hospital in the UK, a statistic that's just coming to the surface. And that's without MRSA, a problem caused by a lack of hygiene on the part of cleaners and nurses (though they were quick to put up these alcogel wash-up stations for everyone to use, as if dirty hands were the problem, an attempted projection on US when it's THEM causing the cleanliness problem through their own sloth). The NHS is a disaster just beginning to emerge, and lots of people are still trying to hold it up like some kind of medical standard (is Hillary Clinton still stupidly doing this?). So if you're in the UK try to stay healthy and Stay Out Of The Hospital - or if you do have to go, take someone of an advocate with you, in case they screw it up again and kill you by mistake. Sorry, had to say this. Stephen Goodman * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios ----- Original Message ----- From: INFO at mark francombe To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, 23 April, 2006 08:24 AM Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Being on the digest (and being on the other side of the world?) means I get LD a bit late, but wanted to quickly chip in and wish you (Ted) a speedy recovery, and I have one bit of extra advice that I'm surprised no one suggested, RE: your up-coming gigs... PULL THEM NOW!!! CANCEL.... NO gig is worth risking the pain and the damage you may do... ...and this thing about "no Insurance"... WHAT IS IT WITH YOU YANKS??? Are you crazy? We in Europe can walk into the ER and say OUCH a couple of times, and we are very proffesionally sorted, in the UK it was completely free (all healthcare is... Doctors, Hospitals... maybe not Dentists) now Im in Norway, there IS a nominal fee for each visit, 200krone... about 13 dollars. DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN THE US? What IS the government using it on? We have roads, an army, street cleaning, schools too!!! This is why ALL my American friends are also Amateur Doctors... I'm sorry guys but... "Second Skin"??? What IS THAT??? (Sounds like some Sci Fi thing.. creepy) "Put Super glue on it"???? Are you lot MAD? And PLEASE with the ALOE fucking VERA... it NOT a fucking pimple!!! OK OK.. they MAY be good products that may help BUT! TED!! Listen now..... RUN DONT WALK TO THE HOSPITAL, AND PAY THE FUCKING BILL!!!!! (Please excuse the bad language) Take it easy and get well soon!!!! mark mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 15833 spam emails to date. 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Stephen, in spite of my liberal leanings, I must admit that I found your first-hand report an eye-opener.
And sad.
Sorry about your mother-in-law... and about your own brushes with death.
 
Reminds me about how one of my late father's friends was living in the USSR as an expat American, full of optimism about the socialized system, but when she got sick and had to be hospitalized, nobody emptied her bedpan... you see, nobody clued her to the fact that every service in a Soviet hospital required a bribe. When she got wise to this reality, things improved greatly for her. (My dad made many business trips to the USSR and had lots of great stories.)
 
Not having ever been in a UK hospital, I am not qualified to compare the care to US hospital care, but I will say that here in the "yer on your own" USA, sometimes I and my loved ones have had medical procedures royally fucked up after having paid through the nose for them. (I permanently lost much of the function in my left eye as a result of one dodgy doctor, f'rinstance.)
 
Yours in Zoom,
Tim
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 4/23/2006 6:21:08 AM
Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE

I won't hesitate to echo the urgency of Get Your Hand Treated Properly - but I cannot agree with holding the UK's National Health up as a beacon for anything but negligence and waste.  They spend most of the money they skive off the public purse on high salaries for executives, and wasted something like £400m last year alone.  The whole thing's a bureaucracy so big one can hide behind it, and claim "it was someone else's job".  They almost killed me TWICE due to careless (and later stupidly defensive) medication - only saved by the fact that my wife was with me and kept on them to just do their bleeding jobs; and the negligent staff at the NHS killed my mother-in-law this past November, via the just-shoot-her-up-and-walk-away-so-who-cares method (Midazolam, administered without telling us, she was dead in 16 hours, supposed to be given with a crash cart ready in case of shock, and there was nobody with her when she died).  We now understand that an awful lot of elderly folks don't come out of the hospital in the UK, a statistic that's just coming to the surface.  And that's without MRSA, a problem caused by a lack of hygiene on the part of cleaners and nurses (though they were quick to put up these alcogel wash-up stations for everyone to use, as if dirty hands were the problem, an attempted projection on US when it's THEM causing the cleanliness problem through their own sloth).  The NHS is a disaster just beginning to emerge, and lots of people are still trying to hold it up like some kind of medical standard (is Hillary Clinton still stupidly doing this?).
 
So if you're in the UK try to stay healthy and Stay Out Of The Hospital - or if you do have to go, take someone of an advocate with you, in case they screw it up again and kill you by mistake.  Sorry, had to say this.
 
Stephen Goodman
 
* Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff
* http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack
* The Loop Of The Week since 1996!
* http://www.earthlight.net/Studios
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, 23 April, 2006 08:24 AM
Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE

Being on the digest (and being on the other side of the world?) means I get LD a bit late, but wanted to quickly chip in and wish you (Ted) a speedy recovery, and I have one bit of extra advice that I'm surprised no one suggested, RE: your up-coming gigs... PULL THEM NOW!!! CANCEL.... NO gig is worth risking the pain and the damage you may do...
 
<Telling off>
 
...and this thing about "no Insurance"... WHAT IS IT WITH YOU YANKS??? Are you crazy? We in Europe can walk into the ER and say OUCH a couple of times, and we are very proffesionally sorted, in the UK it was completely free (all healthcare is... Doctors, Hospitals... maybe not Dentists) now Im in Norway, there IS a nominal fee for each visit, 200krone... about 13 dollars. DO YOU HAVE TAXES IN THE US? What IS the government using it on? We have roads, an army, street cleaning, schools too!!! This is why ALL my American friends are also Amateur Doctors... 
I'm sorry guys but... "Second Skin"??? What IS THAT??? (Sounds like some Sci Fi thing.. creepy)  "Put Super glue on it"???? Are you lot MAD? And PLEASE with the ALOE fucking VERA... it NOT a fucking pimple!!!
OK OK.. they MAY be good products that may help BUT!
 
TED!! Listen now..... RUN DONT WALK TO THE HOSPITAL, AND PAY THE FUCKING BILL!!!!!
 
</Telling off>
 
(Please excuse the bad language) 
 
Take it easy and get well soon!!!!
 
 
mark
 
 
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------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 03:03:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18F593BEC2; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,150,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="234046263:sNHT923918564" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: emilet@pop.rcn.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:53:51 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Two new DVD-R's from Doctor T. Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'm pleased to announce the release of two new DVD-R's: Immersions 2005 contains 10 pieces totaling one hour culled from performances with the Immersions Ensemble in 2005. Accompanying artists include: Dean Stiglitz ElectroFlute Ramona Herboldsheimer Hammered Ducimer Glynnis Loman, Cello Helena Schniewind Camera Neil Leonard Reeds and Computer Haruka Hori, Violin Bob McCloskey Reeds and percussion. The Space Broom Experiment is a 45 minute set recorded live with The Lothars, with guest artist Bob McCloskey , and also includes a 10 minute 'Festival Edit' The DVD's are $15 each or both for $25 (postpaid in the US), payment by Paypal or check to me at Alpha Channel Productions 164 Old Conn. Path Framingham MA 01701 Also available on DVD Eyewash May 2005 with Dean Stiglitz and dancer Claire Barratt, 40 minutes, $15 ,and Video Mandalas, a reissued studio project from 2006, $20. Or get all 4 for the special price of $55. -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 03:03:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63BC13BEE0; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,150,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="234046282:sNHT5423680194" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: emilet@pop.rcn.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:53:56 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance with the Lothar's , Somerville, MA Wed. O4.26.06 Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing video improvisations with the Lothar's (and perhaps the other bands, but that is not decided) with the Lothars at PA's Lounge in Somerville. The event (with kind words for myself) is described in the official Lothars announcement of the event. At 4:43 AM -0500 4/21/06, The Lothars wrote: >Bummed because you can't make it to this weekend's Terrastock >Festival in Providence, RI? Fear not! Two European bands in town for >that freakout will be joining The Lothars for a final night of >musical meanderings before heading home. Spacy psych-folkers Tanakh >(Italy) and Saint Joan (England) swing through Somerville next >Wednesday, April 26 for a performance at PA's Lounge, 345 Somerville >Ave. > >Local multi-theremin outfit The Lothars open the night at 9PM. On >stage with the two thereminists Jon and Kris, and the hammered >dulcimerist Ramona, will be the avant-cellist Wisteriax, who will be >replacing an out-of-town Dean. As if that wasn't freaky enough for >you, video artist Dr. T will be working his magic during the Lothars >set. If we're really really lucky, he'll have copies of a Lothars >DVD he created for sale! > >PA's Lounge: http://www.paslounge.com/ >Tanakh: http://www.myspace.com/jessepoetanakh >Saint Joan: http://www.myspace.com/saintjoan >Wisteriax: http://www.wisteriax.com/ >Dr. T: http://www.foryourhead.com/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 03:11:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A940A3BED2; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cF37VAXl7j+qZV3BbRi/GH/guq3gDzOA1w/6YnfdyfMsL3/vwRaAO4B7KdOOC+YPW1fOAaj9WrD60etoKt7XSAaff+kMxultCsWNPaAGsT9z1YhWqHm9T9PMluv/BceWgAphkROqCKg4TEgRv0azBPGbR0vk3lDIcIgDYRMQ+IY= Message-ID: <913728d60604232011q6f2b2f88jbe80191a2d3b8f63@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:11:17 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Two new DVD-R's from Doctor T. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:11:18 +0000 (UTC) those both sound like they'd be a good watch... but i'm sorry to say that since i am new here, i am unfamiliar with that music, is there a chance i could see some audio or video samples? Charlie On 4/23/06, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm pleased to announce the release of two new DVD-R's: > > Immersions 2005 contains 10 pieces totaling one hour culled from > performances with the Immersions Ensemble in 2005. Accompanying > artists include: > > Dean Stiglitz ElectroFlute > Ramona Herboldsheimer Hammered Ducimer > Glynnis Loman, Cello > Helena Schniewind Camera > Neil Leonard Reeds and Computer > Haruka Hori, Violin > Bob McCloskey Reeds and percussion. > > > The Space Broom Experiment is a 45 minute set recorded live with The > Lothars, with guest artist Bob McCloskey , and also includes a 10 > minute 'Festival Edit' > > The DVD's are $15 each or both for $25 (postpaid in the US), payment > by Paypal or check to me at > Alpha Channel Productions > 164 Old Conn. Path > Framingham MA 01701 > > Also available on DVD Eyewash May 2005 with Dean Stiglitz and dancer > Claire Barratt, 40 minutes, $15 ,and Video Mandalas, a reissued > studio project from 2006, $20. > > Or get all 4 for the special price of $55. > > > -- > " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 03:55:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C70AB3BECF; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" , Subject: the PiNG presents GEARS of SAND Mini-Tour (Ben Fleury-Steiner, Mikronesia, William Fields, Aidan Baker & PHOLDE) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:56:21 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000101c66753$0ca0d050$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:55:39 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A SPECiAL AMBiENT PiNG PRESENTATIiON ROBERT RICH . LiVE iN CONCERT at the CHURCH OF THE HOLY TRiNiTY THiS SATURDAY APRiL 29th 2006 . 8PM Church of the Holy Trinity . Trinity Square, Toronto ON Canada (south of Dundas . west of Yonge . behind The Eaton Centre) Doors open @ 7.30PM . Performance @ 8PM $20 . Tickets available at soundscapes, Rotate This and at this week's AMBiENT PiNG TUESDAY. Tickets can also be reserved via the PiNG SiTE: http://www.theambientping.com/index.html#tickets Robert Rich will perform a solo concert of instrumental electronic music, incorporating instruments such as flutes and lap steel guitar along with analog modular synthesizer, keyboards and computers. Rich will perform selections from among his many recordings, including his latest CD "Electric Ladder," woven together with improvisations and new material. Computer generated motion graphics by Daniel Colvin will accompany Rich's music, along with custom laser projections. The film by Daniel Colvin tells a non-linear, non-verbal story. Its series of shifting images conveys aspects of the evolution of complexity and consciousness within the narrative of cosmological history. Rich's music takes a parallel path through that narrative. Though not synchronized to the film, the music speaks a non-verbal poetry. Music and image combine to express a modern shamanic journey. As an added bonus, arrive at 7.30PM to experience dreamSTATE's "waveforms" quadraphonic soundscape installation which will be playing before and between sets. Doors open @ 7.30PM . Performance @ 8PM . $20 Tickets will be available at this week's PiNG. For more info: http://www.theambientping.com/robert_rich_live.html For a map to The Church of The Holy Trinity http://www.theambientping.com/robert_rich_live.html#trinity and now back to the weekly PiNG news . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG . http://www.theambientping.com Tuesdays @ HACiENDA . 794 Bathurst Street at Bloor . Toronto (upstairs - directly across from the Bathurst subway station) Doors open at 9pm . 1st set at 9:30 . PayWhatYouCan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THiS Tuesday April 25th . GEARS of SAND Mini-Tour featuring Ben Fleury-Steiner with Mikronesia, William Fields and Aidan Baker with PHOLDE Gears of Sand Recordings is a not-for-profit independent electronic/electro-acoustic label that has been actively releasing PiNG artists like Aidan Baker and PHOLDE. GOS founder, Ben Fleury-Steiner makes his first visit to the PiNG and brings along fellow US label mates Mikronesia and William Fields to join up with local label mates Aidan Baker and PHOLDE. Should be a full night of varied soundscapes, sonics and drones emanating from a crowded PiNG stage, so get there early and don't miss a minute of this coming together of the American and Canadian factions of the GOS recording family. Gears of Sand Recordings: http://www.gearsofsand.net Ben Fleury-Steiner: http://www.gearsofsand.net/bfsportal.html Mikronesia: http://www.mikronesia.com William Fields: http://www.williamfields.com Aidan Baker: http://www.aidanbaker.org PHOLDE: http://www.pholde.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Before Sets CD . Somnium by Robert Rich For our final installment of the lead up to Robert's performance here in Toronto this Saturday, April 29th, we are going to play some nocturnal ambience taken from his DVD-V release Somnium. Released by Hypnos in 2000, this 7 hour musical journey is a meticulously crafted fresh studio interpretation of his notorious all-night Sleep Concerts, incorporating newly recorded electro-acoustic, electronic and environmental textures along with elements created for the original live events. http://www.robertrich.com Between Sets CD . Titania by Titania Tonight we feature Titania's eponymous debut, a dense and atmospheric recording by multi-instrumentalist Michael Turner and vocalist Mandy Cousins, both originally from the UK, but now based out of Edmonton, Alberta. Read more about it here in rik's *ping things* CD review below and hear it Tuesday @ the PiNG. http://www.titaniamusic.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG Tuesday May 2nd . Arms Full of Sound Journey to Ambientia 2: Seasons . II . S P R I N G Set one - Arrival . Set two - The Synthitone Journey to Ambientia 2: Seasons, is the year long project from Arms Full of Sound that will take you back to that special place, deep within the ambient mind. This past February we started to return to the powerful place called Ambientia in search of the Traveler who is trapped in this timeless world of music. The seasons change one into another and back again. Our journey continues from where it was left. All must end where it began. Arms Full of Sound is an Ambient-Electronic music performance formed 4 years ago by Paul Needler. Using a large compliment of analog, digital and software synthesizers, Arms Full of Sound produces live blends of ambient music, usually all improvisational. http://www.armsfullofsound.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . rik maclean's *ping things* CD Reviews Titania . "Titania" Listening to the self titled debut by Titania I can't help but think of the work of Kate Bush, the Cocteau Twins, and other artists who have celebrated the beauty of the female voice. With this release, Mandy Cousins and partner Michael Turner have created a disc of stunning wonder, a collection of songs that showcase the fact that sometimes the best music needs to be sung. Take Digitaria for example with it's guitar arpeggios and simple percussion creating a hypnotic effect that leaves the listener in a state of blissful trance, euphoria. Rising and falling fretwork throughout this one highlight Michael's mastery of the guitar. Tribal percussion opens Pale Sister, minimal instrumentation playing beneath Mandy's voice. Wonderful stuff here, rich sweeping vocals that set the hair on the back of my neck on end. Simply beautiful. Smooth pads open track nine, Knowing and Not Caring, majestic guitar slowly building in their wake. Brilliant. Postscript is a lovely piece that sends shivers up my spine it's so wonderful. A perfect piece of music where vocals, instrumentation, tension and emotion all come together in an ideal blend to form one of the most blissful pieces of music I've heard all year. Without doubt, Titania is a fabulous introduction to a wonderful project that I hope to hear more from in the future. Fans of the aforementioned Bush and Cocteaus will find this disc indispensable. rik - ping things "Titania" is available now at ping things! Visit http://www.pingthings.com/TITANIA.htm to listen to some sample mp3s and tune in to ping things radio at http://www.live365.com/stations/marastorment on Sundays and Wednesdays from 9pm to 12am to hear tracks from this disc and a bunch of other great music from the ping things catalogue! http://www.pingthings.com = ambient + electronic + chill things . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * Other Toronto area sonic/visual events of interest this week: * Monday April 24th . Spires that in the Sunset Rise, Sounds of North American Adult Bookstores, Disguises, Castlemusic w/ Ryan Driver 9pm, Gladstone Art Bar $8 * Monday April 24th . marcel aucoin trio marcel aucoin keyboards jake oelrichs drums chris banks bass 9pm . dominion on queen . 500 queen st. east . $5 * Tuesday April 25th . Spires that in the Sunset Rise Tomek Krakowiak, Jeremy Rosztain, Man Made Hill 9pm . the Bagel . $5 * Thursday, April 27th . RootMeanSquare presents ISIS with MARE and POLMO POLPO Lee's Palace, 529 Bloor St. W . $13.50 * Friday, April 28th . Leftover Daylight Series in association with Arraymusic and AIMT 9:00 - fisher / anthony / luciani [colin fisher (saxophone, guitar), colin anthony (piano), jeff luciani (drums)] 10:00 - fisher / sorbara [colin fisher (guitar / tenor sax), joe sorbara (drums / percussion)] 11:00 - ken aldcroft solo guitar ARRAYMUSIC Studio . 60 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 218 . $10/6 * Friday April 28th . wabi & Yatra-Arts are very pleased to present the Toronto debut of one of Europe's leading minimal electronica imprints raster-noton (Chemnitz, Germany). Label founder, graphic designer and recording artist Byetone (aka Olaf Bender) will present a brand new live set for this special event. Byetone combines digital music with synchronized - animated geometric visuals to create a precise and mesmerizing audio / visual experience. wabi will also DJ the night along with a live set by micro-electronic artist Marc McNulty. 9pm . The Drake Hotel Underground 1150 Queen St. W . $10 * Sunday, April 30th . The NOW Series presented by AIMT and the NOW Lounge 4:00 . Michael Morse & The Indignity of Labour Michael Morse, Rob Clutton - double bass Joe Sorbara, Nick Fraser - drums Lina Allemano - trumpet Sundar Viswanathan - alto saxophone 5:00 . Shirts and Skins Eric Chenaux electric guitar Ryan Driver analog synthesizer and thumbreeds Jean Martin And Nick Fraser drums 6:00 . Jean Martin & Justin Haynes & Friends Jean Martin - drums Justin Haynes - guitar 4-7PM . The NOW Lounge - 189 Church St. . $6 * May 1st - 31st . New Adventures In Sound Art Presents: Deep Wireless Festival. a month-long celebration of radio and transmission art, radio artists, sound artists and enthusiasts can experience performances, sound installations, new commissions, special radio broadcasts, a CD launch and conference. Conference Pass $150/130 (+$20 discount - early bird registration) Early bird registration deadline is April 14th, day rates available. May 1st - 31st . The Drake Hotel (1150 Queen St W) & Ryerson University Student Campus Centre (55 Gould St) more info at http://www.deepwireless.ca . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a social sound/art event presenting live performances by Toronto's finest ambient, chillout, improv and experimental music artists plus performers from around the world, every Tuesday evening at HACiENDA . 794 Bathurst Street at Bloor. http://www.theambientping.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any friends who may be interested in live ambient, chillout and experimental music performances or to any of your appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 06:15:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F02793BED5; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3VxMZ2fotbTf7oOtP0y2LVI1hGX7STSCC0Ip5M4UknyGDq1/TITblfinqFMHQ+T0+lsxiu4IFqUMl/uYsExMOaVfvbomqqQdRs68YAZ18flT34uUgdBZP3MtDrSq2Sie/ZCGyUucOnWOkK5qbbWSRxRC0Qzv3POaJbIft1NzWtA= ; Message-ID: <20060424061459.36365.qmail@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:14:59 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: airplane baggage To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:15:01 +0000 (UTC) as my skeletal structure weighs more than most folks total body weight, my advise is be nice to the gorilla...as he is probably hungry. !~} bon voyage, the welsh hungarian. --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 22 apr 2006, at 19.34, Charles Zwicky wrote: > > > Doesn't it piss you off when you get charged > overage on your bags, > > but the 600 pound gorrilla in front of you pays > the same for his > > seat as you?? > > > He, he.... never thought of it that way... but > you're actually right! > Since I'm a particularly small and light human I > should really get > clearance for more luggage. Damn, that sucks! ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 06:27:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65C133BECF; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=knM9Dg1BWkxqbyhQ+Wr7sPXQYrXHA82+4eCi4J+1fxLDnfvgBZ3JEwch1fSMZOE2KpTRl6dXyNiN4vfSFTqwGrvkR3eXba7yvhAAgHBhvQhzwZTwwQ2xYOKmgUOTjgqMPPm10nfDO2sr+jcDIqNG5/YrC446DbXsiKHY3HmQLCA= ; Message-ID: <20060424062716.89833.qmail@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:27:16 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:27:19 +0000 (UTC) bummer tEd, the vermont doctor's home remedy guide says to use apple cider vinegar for everything and anything...you know the zappa song "he used to cut the grass"now you know why... get well soon, danny scary --- tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: > DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! > > I AM TYPING THIS MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS (AND > ONE-HANDED) FOR > A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST BURNT MY LEFT > HAND RATHER > BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. CRAP! > CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO. > > HAVE OU EVER LEFT AN IRON TO SIT TOO LONG ON AN > IRONING > BOARD WHILE IT WAS WARMING UP, OR TURNED AWAY FROM > ONE > FOR A SECOND ONLY TO SEE A BROWN SINGE MARK ON YOUR > FAVORITE SHIRT WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP? > > THAT'S WHAT THE TIPS OF MY LEFT HAND FINGERS LOOKED > LIKE > WHEN I FELT THE HEAT AND PULLED IT AWAY FROM THE > MOWER > I WAS TRYING TO LEAN DOWN AND ADJUST. THERE ARE BIG > NASTY > BLISTERS NOW FORMED UNDER THE BROWN SINGED PADS OF > THE > FIRST THREE FINGERS. FINGERS AND PADS I NORMALLY USE > FOR > FRETTING A GUITAR AS IT HAPPENS . . . AND TYPING ON > A COMPUTER. > > THE PAIN WHEN I TAKE THE BAG OF ICE AWAY IS > INDESCRIBABLE -- > EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS TO COME IN WAVES. I'M TYPING > BETWEEN > THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT KIDDING. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! > OOOOOO > CRAP! IT'S HARD NOT TO LAUGH AT MY OWN GROSS > STUPIDITY. > I HAVE TEENAGE SONS. THEY SHOULD BE MOWING THE LAWN > FER #$%&*!@! SAKES! > > ANYWHO, ARE THERE ANY GOOD HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES OUT > THERE FOR MINOR BURNS OF THIS TYPE . . . OTHER THAN > TYLENOL > AND ALCOHOL AND LIBERALLY APPLIED ICE PACKS? HAS > ANYONE > BEEN IN A SIMILAR FIX? I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A > TRIP TO > THE EMERGENCY, I HAVE NO INSURANCE ANYWAY, SO IT'S > NOT > REALLY AN OPTION. > > I HAVE A GIG IN BOISE, IDAHO IN SIX DAYS AND ONE IN > VENTURA, > CALIFORNIA THE FOLLOWING, WEEK AND ONE BACK IN > OREGON > AFTER THAT. I DON'T PLAN ON SWITCHING TO THEREMIN OR > AIR > SYNTH AT THE LAST MINUTE. HEHEHEHEHEH, OW! CRAP! > CRAP! > CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! > > I GUESS I COULD PLAY SLIDE GUITAR IF THE BURNS DONT > HEAL > ENOUGH TO BE USEABLE. I WAS A FAIR SLIDE PLAYER > (ONCE UPON > A TIME) ALTHOUGH IT'S A TECHNIQUE THAT I'D SET ASIDE > IN FAVOR > OF OTHER THINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. > > I SUPPOSE A GUITARISTS FIRST WORST NIGHTMARE IS A > LOSS OF FINGERS. > SO IT COULD BE WORSE I SUPPOSE. ANY GOOD IDEAS? YOU > FOLKS ARE > MY TRIBE. IF ANYONE HAS A BRIGHT IDEA I'D BE GLAD TO > HEAR OF IT. > THE SHOW MUST GO ON -- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. > > tEd ® kiLLiAn > > "Different is not always better, but better is > always different" > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi? > > step=view_profile&id=121197000042 > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: > Apple iTunes, > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, > Napster, > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, > Etherstream, > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, > Puretracks, > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 06:27:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6230E3BEE4; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20060423231714.0c3d35b8@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:27:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP Setup idea (tips please) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:27:46 +0000 (UTC) I guess this question was from a little while ago, sorry for the delayed action... At 10:03 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote: >Thinking about expanding to two EDP's and a FCB1010. > >The 2nd EDP would be used primarily for smooth transitions of loops >(one loop fading out as the new loop is being created) as well as some >other ideas I got going. > >Who is currently doing this (not stereo EDP setup but two independant >EDP's. I would like to operate the units with the same foot >controller (FCB 1010). What is the best way to do this. It is quite easy to do this. The easy thing to do is put each EDP on a different midi channel and control the individually. The problem for you however, is I believe with the FCB 1010 you can only send midi note info on one channel. And the FCB is a little limited so it will only control the Echoplex with note messages. You may want to consider a better midi controller. Another option is to use the ControlSource parameter of the Echoplex. Set one EDP to a low range with the parameter set to 4. Set the second one to 64. That way they can both be on the same midi channel. The control for unit#1 is all in the lower range from 0-63, and the control for the second unit is in the higher range from 64-127. >Now is it possible to be able to hit a button or something to make the >EDP's sych or not. Can I assign it through midi to the FCB1010? I >want the option to have the EDP's in synch or not depending on what I >am doing. use rhw presets availabe in LoopIV. Have one preset with sync on, and one preset with sync=off. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 06:39:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34B053BEDD; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=zQTRpkp0nUzD49RdDFawNp/S2Uz+8B8onsFpslqEbkjHHoWBQ58bbVIDnGytE1N2449EtePBQJ6jM765nUoppSutOGf3oJhN58Ih0g2zI7jD20O2czaM65UDVp265C4T+UQsF1Z5kpdrEGxBzMipkwELl/xge/dXx7N1rwHhEfA= ; Message-ID: <008d01c66769$ca5c4730$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> From: "Ben" To: References: <007d01c66558$fabbb1d0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> Subject: Re: looping in stereo Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:39:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:39:13 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Kaiser" I'm not sure I understand the question?....Is that a mackie 1202? You can use the alt outputs on the mackie (using the mute buttons sends it to the alt outs) as a separate stereo send.....(I did this for years) then run the processed signal from the alt outputs back into another two channels and assign it to the main outs.........I hope that doesn't sound to confusing.... No it's a PHONIC 1202. It has no "mute" nor "ALT BUS". The REC out (tape out) is giving the same content as the MAIN OUT. That's where the problem lies ;-). Thank you to both Jeff of you and to Duncan. I guess a new mixing table will be needed with a 2nd BUS and more complex routing options. Ben. ___________________________________________________________________________ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 08:22:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 925FB3BED5; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ETEJ4p+9pJV/ssdBNuF6rKa3i0FA+DBDYHRN5u7W249WiZbi20/GHXfBsXdi0Vqw; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <23743215.1145866941596.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 04:22:21 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd488777144e2b7a63e8b91400ed876b8e8b93caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.48 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:22:23 +0000 (UTC) jus to add my two cents...having just read about it... so sorry to hear about your predicament Tedster... no suggestions except to get better/well sooner so we can all hear that gui= tar thangg you do so well quicker! s and i cant even ponder what 'a guitarists "worst" nightmare would be-dont w= anna think about it) -----Original Message----- >From: daniel stevenson >Sent: Apr 24, 2006 2:27 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE > >bummer tEd, the vermont doctor's home remedy guide >says to use apple cider vinegar for everything and >anything...you know the zappa song "he used to cut the >grass"now you know why... > get well soon, > danny scary > > >--- tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > >> DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! >>=20 >> I AM TYPING THIS MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS (AND >> ONE-HANDED) FOR >> A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST BURNT MY LEFT >> HAND RATHER >> BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. CRAP! >> CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO. >>=20 >> HAVE OU EVER LEFT AN IRON TO SIT TOO LONG ON AN >> IRONING >> BOARD WHILE IT WAS WARMING UP, OR TURNED AWAY FROM >> ONE >> FOR A SECOND ONLY TO SEE A BROWN SINGE MARK ON YOUR >> FAVORITE SHIRT WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP? >>=20 >> THAT'S WHAT THE TIPS OF MY LEFT HAND FINGERS LOOKED >> LIKE >> WHEN I FELT THE HEAT AND PULLED IT AWAY FROM THE >> MOWER >> I WAS TRYING TO LEAN DOWN AND ADJUST. THERE ARE BIG >> NASTY >> BLISTERS NOW FORMED UNDER THE BROWN SINGED PADS OF >> THE >> FIRST THREE FINGERS. FINGERS AND PADS I NORMALLY USE >> FOR >> FRETTING A GUITAR AS IT HAPPENS . . . AND TYPING ON >> A COMPUTER. >>=20 >> THE PAIN WHEN I TAKE THE BAG OF ICE AWAY IS >> INDESCRIBABLE -- >> EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS TO COME IN WAVES. I'M TYPING >> BETWEEN >> THEM RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT KIDDING. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! >> OOOOOO >> CRAP! IT'S HARD NOT TO LAUGH AT MY OWN GROSS >> STUPIDITY. >> I HAVE TEENAGE SONS. THEY SHOULD BE MOWING THE LAWN >> FER #$%&*!@! SAKES! >>=20 >> ANYWHO, ARE THERE ANY GOOD HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES OUT >> THERE FOR MINOR BURNS OF THIS TYPE . . . OTHER THAN >> TYLENOL >> AND ALCOHOL AND LIBERALLY APPLIED ICE PACKS? HAS >> ANYONE >> BEEN IN A SIMILAR FIX? I DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A >> TRIP TO >> THE EMERGENCY, I HAVE NO INSURANCE ANYWAY, SO IT'S >> NOT >> REALLY AN OPTION. >>=20 >> I HAVE A GIG IN BOISE, IDAHO IN SIX DAYS AND ONE IN >> VENTURA, >> CALIFORNIA THE FOLLOWING, WEEK AND ONE BACK IN >> OREGON >> AFTER THAT. I DON'T PLAN ON SWITCHING TO THEREMIN OR >> AIR >> SYNTH AT THE LAST MINUTE. HEHEHEHEHEH, OW! CRAP! >> CRAP! >> CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! >>=20 >> I GUESS I COULD PLAY SLIDE GUITAR IF THE BURNS DONT >> HEAL >> ENOUGH TO BE USEABLE. I WAS A FAIR SLIDE PLAYER >> (ONCE UPON >> A TIME) ALTHOUGH IT'S A TECHNIQUE THAT I'D SET ASIDE >> IN FAVOR >> OF OTHER THINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. >>=20 >> I SUPPOSE A GUITARISTS FIRST WORST NIGHTMARE IS A >> LOSS OF FINGERS. >> SO IT COULD BE WORSE I SUPPOSE. ANY GOOD IDEAS? YOU >> FOLKS ARE >> MY TRIBE. IF ANYONE HAS A BRIGHT IDEA I'D BE GLAD TO >> HEAR OF IT. >> THE SHOW MUST GO ON -- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. >>=20 >> tEd =AE kiLLiAn >>=20 >> "Different is not always better, but better is >> always different" >>=20 >> http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html >> http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian >> http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html >> http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina >> >http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 >> >http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 >> >http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 >> http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi? >>=20 >> step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 >>=20 >> Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: >> Apple iTunes, >> BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, >> Napster, >> AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, >> Etherstream, >> RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, >> Puretracks, >> and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. >So??? > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 >http://mail.yahoo.com=20 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 09:55:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3FB63BEDB; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: F*** the Music Recording Industry Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:55:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:55:35 +0000 (UTC) This is an old speech but I reread it tonight and it just made my blood boil. It's really long and I warn you, quite depressing, but I think it's the truth no matter what you think of it's author. new paradigm, time! ********************************************* This is an unedited transcript of a speech to the Digital Hollywood online entertainment conference, given in New York on May 16. "Today I want to talk about piracy and music. What is piracy? Piracy is the act of stealing an artist's work without any intention of paying for it. I'm not talking about Napster-type software. I'm talking about major label recording contracts. I want to start with a story about rock bands and record companies, and do some recording-contract math: This story is about a bidding-war band that gets a huge deal with a 20 percent royalty rate and a million-dollar advance. (No bidding-war band ever got a 20 percent royalty, but whatever.) This is my "funny" math based on some reality and I just want to qualify it by saying I'm positive it's better math than what Edgar Bronfman Jr. [the president and CEO of Seagram, which owns Polygram] would provide. What happens to that million dollars? They spend half a million to record their album. That leaves the band with $500,000. They pay $100,000 to their manager for 20 percent commission. They pay $25,000 each to their lawyer and business manager. That leaves $350,000 for the four band members to split. After $170,000 in taxes, there's $180,000 left. That comes out to $45,000 per person. That's $45,000 to live on for a year until the record gets released. The record is a big hit and sells a million copies. (How a bidding-war band sells a million copies of its debut record is another rant entirely, but it's based on any basic civics-class knowledge that any of us have about cartels. Put simply, the antitrust laws in this country are basically a joke, protecting us just enough to not have to re-name our park service the Phillip Morris National Park Service.) So, this band releases two singles and makes two videos. The two videos cost a million dollars to make and 50 percent of the video production costs are recouped out of the band's royalties. The band gets $200,000 in tour support, which is 100 percent recoupable. The record company spends $300,000 on independent radio promotion. You have to pay independent promotion to get your song on the radio; independent promotion is a system where the record companies use middlemen so they can pretend not to know that radio stations -- the unified broadcast system -- are getting paid to play their records. All of those independent promotion costs are charged to the band. Since the original million-dollar advance is also recoupable, the band owes $2 million to the record company. If all of the million records are sold at full price with no discounts or record clubs, the band earns $2 million in royalties, since their 20 percent royalty works out to $2 a record. Two million dollars in royalties minus $2 million in recoupable expenses equals ... zero! How much does the record company make? They grossed $11 million. It costs $500,000 to manufacture the CDs and they advanced the band $1 million. Plus there were $1 million in video costs, $300,000 in radio promotion and $200,000 in tour support. The company also paid $750,000 in music publishing royalties. They spent $2.2 million on marketing. That's mostly retail advertising, but marketing also pays for those huge posters of Marilyn Manson in Times Square and the street scouts who drive around in vans handing out black Korn T-shirts and backwards baseball caps. Not to mention trips to Scores and cash for tips for all and sundry. Add it up and the record company has spent about $4.4 million. So their profit is $6.6 million; the band may as well be working at a 7-Eleven. Of course, they had fun. Hearing yourself on the radio, selling records, getting new fans and being on TV is great, but now the band doesn't have enough money to pay the rent and nobody has any credit. Worst of all, after all this, the band owns none of its work ... they can pay the mortgage forever but they'll never own the house. Like I said: Sharecropping. Our media says, "Boo hoo, poor pop stars, they had a nice ride. Fuck them for speaking up"; but I say this dialogue is imperative. And cynical media people, who are more fascinated with celebrity than most celebrities, need to reacquaint themselves with their value systems. When you look at the legal line on a CD, it says copyright 1976 Atlantic Records or copyright 1996 RCA Records. When you look at a book, though, it'll say something like copyright 1999 Susan Faludi, or David Foster Wallace. Authors own their books and license them to publishers. When the contract runs out, writers gets their books back. But record companies own our copyrights forever. The system's set up so almost nobody gets paid. * The RIAA * Last November, a Congressional aide named Mitch Glazier, with the support of the RIAA, added a "technical amendment" to a bill that defined recorded music as "works for hire" under the 1978 Copyright Act. He did this after all the hearings on the bill were over. By the time artists found out about the change, it was too late. The bill was on its way to the White House for the president's signature. That subtle change in copyright law will add billions of dollars to record company bank accounts over the next few years -- billions of dollars that rightfully should have been paid to artists. A "work for hire" is now owned in perpetuity by the record company. Under the 1978 Copyright Act, artists could reclaim the copyrights on their work after 35 years. If you wrote and recorded "Everybody Hurts," you at least got it back to as a family legacy after 35 years. But now, because of this corrupt little pisher, "Everybody Hurts" never gets returned to your family, and can now be sold to the highest bidder. Over the years record companies have tried to put "work for hire" provisions in their contracts, and Mr. Glazier claims that the "work for hire" only "codified" a standard industry practice. But copyright laws didn't identify sound recordings as being eligible to be called "works for hire," so those contracts didn't mean anything. Until now. Writing and recording "Hey Jude" is now the same thing as writing an English textbook, writing standardized tests, translating a novel from one language to another or making a map. These are the types of things addressed in the "work for hire" act. And writing a standardized test is a work for hire. Not making a record. So an assistant substantially altered a major law when he only had the authority to make spelling corrections. That's not what I learned about how government works in my high school civics class. Three months later, the RIAA hired Mr. Glazier to become its top lobbyist at a salary that was obviously much greater than the one he had as the spelling corrector guy. The RIAA tries to argue that this change was necessary because of a provision in the bill that musicians supported. That provision prevents anyone from registering a famous person's name as a Web address without that person's permission. That's great. I own my name, and should be able to do what I want with my name. But the bill also created an exception that allows a company to take a person's name for a Web address if they create a work for hire. Which means a record company would be allowed to own your Web site when you record your "work for hire" album. Like I said: Sharecropping. Although I've never met any one at a record company who "believed in the Internet," they've all been trying to cover their asses by securing everyone's digital rights. Not that they know what to do with them. Go to a major label-owned band site. Give me a dollar for every time you see an annoying "under construction" sign. I used to pester Geffen (when it was a label) to do a better job. I was totally ignored for two years, until I got my band name back. The Goo Goo Dolls are struggling to gain control of their domain name from Warner Bros., who claim they own the name because they set up a shitty promotional Web site for the band. Orrin Hatch, songwriter and Republican senator from Utah, seems to be the only person in Washington with a progressive view of copyright law. One lobbyist says that there's no one in the House with a similar view and that "this would have never happened if Sonny Bono was still alive." By the way, which bill do you think the recording industry used for this amendment? The Record Company Redefinition Act? No. The Music Copyright Act? No. The Work for Hire Authorship Act? No. How about the Satellite Home Viewing Act of 1999? Stealing our copyright reversions in the dead of night while no one was looking, and with no hearings held, is piracy. It's piracy when the RIAA lobbies to change the bankruptcy law to make it more difficult for musicians to declare bankruptcy. Some musicians have declared bankruptcy to free themselves from truly evil contracts. TLC declared bankruptcy after they received less than 2 percent of the $175 million earned by their CD sales. That was about 40 times less than the profit that was divided among their management, production and record companies. Toni Braxton also declared bankruptcy in 1998. She sold $188 million worth of CDs, but she was broke because of a terrible recording contract that paid her less than 35 cents per album. Bankruptcy can be an artist's only defense against a truly horrible deal and the RIAA wants to take it away. Artists want to believe that we can make lots of money if we're successful. But there are hundreds of stories about artists in their 60s and 70s who are broke because they never made a dime from their hit records. And real success is still a long shot for a new artist today. Of the 32,000 new releases each year, only 250 sell more than 10,000 copies. And less than 30 go platinum. The four major record corporations fund the RIAA. These companies are rich and obviously well-represented. Recording artists and musicians don't really have the money to compete. The 273,000 working musicians in America make about $30,000 a year. Only 15 percent of American Federation of Musicians members work steadily in music. But the music industry is a $40 billion-a-year business. One-third of that revenue comes from the United States. The annual sales of cassettes, CDs and video are larger than the gross national product of 80 countries. Americans have more CD players, radios and VCRs than we have bathtubs. Story after story gets told about artists -- some of them in their 60s and 70s, some of them authors of huge successful songs that we all enjoy, use and sing -- living in total poverty, never having been paid anything. Not even having access to a union or to basic health care. Artists who have generated billions of dollars for an industry die broke and un-cared for. And they're not actors or participators. They're the rightful owners, originators and performers of original compositions. This is piracy. * Technology is not piracy * This opinion is one I really haven't formed yet, so as I speak about Napster now, please understand that I'm not totally informed. I will be the first in line to file a class action suit to protect my copyrights if Napster or even the far more advanced Gnutella doesn't work with us to protect us. I'm on [Metallica drummer] Lars Ulrich's side, in other words, and I feel really badly for him that he doesn't know how to condense his case down to a sound-bite that sounds more reasonable than the one I saw today. I also think Metallica is being given too much grief. It's anti-artist, for one thing. An artist speaks up and the artist gets squashed: Sharecropping. Don't get above your station, kid. It's not piracy when kids swap music over the Internet using Napster or Gnutella or Freenet or iMesh or beaming their CDs into a My.MP3.com or MyPlay.com music locker. It's piracy when those guys that run those companies make side deals with the cartel lawyers and label heads so that they can be "the labels' friend," and not the artists'. Recording artists have essentially been giving their music away for free under the old system, so new technology that exposes our music to a larger audience can only be a good thing. Why aren't these companies working with us to create some peace? There were a billion music downloads last year, but music sales are up. Where's the evidence that downloads hurt business? Downloads are creating more demand. Why aren't record companies embracing this great opportunity? Why aren't they trying to talk to the kids passing compilations around to learn what they like? Why is the RIAA suing the companies that are stimulating this new demand? What's the point of going after people swapping cruddy-sounding MP3s? Cash! Cash they have no intention of passing onto us, the writers of their profits. At this point the "record collector" geniuses who use Napster don't have the coolest most arcane selection anyway, unless you're into techno. Hardly any pre-1982 REM fans, no '60s punk, even the Alan Parsons Project was underrepresented when I tried to find some Napster buddies. For the most part, it was college boy rawk without a lot of imagination. Maybe that's the demographic that cares -- and in that case, My Bloody Valentine and Bert Jansch aren't going to get screwed just yet. There's still time to negotiate. * Destroying traditional access * Somewhere along the way, record companies figured out that it's a lot more profitable to control the distribution system than it is to nurture artists. And since the companies didn't have any real competition, artists had no other place to go. Record companies controlled the promotion and marketing; only they had the ability to get lots of radio play, and get records into all the big chain store. That power put them above both the artists and the audience. They own the plantation. Being the gatekeeper was the most profitable place to be, but now we're in a world half without gates. The Internet allows artists to communicate directly with their audiences; we don't have to depend solely on an inefficient system where the record company promotes our records to radio, press or retail and then sits back and hopes fans find out about our music. Record companies don't understand the intimacy between artists and their fans. They put records on the radio and buy some advertising and hope for the best. Digital distribution gives everyone worldwide, instant access to music. And filters are replacing gatekeepers. In a world where we can get anything we want, whenever we want it, how does a company create value? By filtering. In a world without friction, the only friction people value is editing. A filter is valuable when it understands the needs of both artists and the public. New companies should be conduits between musicians and their fans. Right now the only way you can get music is by shelling out $17. In a world where music costs a nickel, an artist can "sell" 100 million copies instead of just a million. The present system keeps artists from finding an audience because it has too many artificial scarcities: limited radio promotion, limited bin space in stores and a limited number of spots on the record company roster. The digital world has no scarcities. There are countless ways to reach an audience. Radio is no longer the only place to hear a new song. And tiny mall record stores aren't the only place to buy a new CD. * I'm leaving * Now artists have options. We don't have to work with major labels anymore, because the digital economy is creating new ways to distribute and market music. And the free ones amongst us aren't going to. That means the slave class, which I represent, has to find ways to get out ofg enough to know that any alliance where I'm an owned service is going to be doomed. When I agreed to allow a large cola company to promote a live show, I couldn't have been more miserable. They screwed up every single thing imaginable. The venue was empty but sold out. There were thousands of people outside who wanted to be there, trying to get tickets. And there were the empty seats the company had purchased for a lump sum and failed to market because they were clueless about music. It was really dumb. You had to buy the cola. You had to dial a number. You had to press a bunch of buttons. You had to do all this crap that nobody wanted to do. Why not just bring a can to the door? On top of all this, I felt embarrassed to be an advertising agent for a product that I'd never let my daughter use. Plus they were a condescending bunch of little guys. They treated me like I was an ungrateful little bitch who should be groveling for the experience to play for their damn soda. I ended up playing without my shirt on and ordering a six-pack of the rival cola onstage. Also lots of unwholesome cursing and nudity occurred. This way I knew that no matter how tempting the cash was, they'd never do business with me again. If you want some little obedient slave content provider, then fine. But I think most musicians don't want to be responsible for your clean-cut, wholesome, all-American, sugar corrosive cancer-causing, all white people, no women allowed sodapop images. Nor, on the converse, do we want to be responsible for your vice-inducing, liver-rotting, child-labor-law-violating, all white people, no-women-allowed booze images. So as a defiant moody artist worth my salt, I've got to think of something else. Tampax, maybe. * Money * As a user, I love Napster. It carries some risk. I hear idealistic business people talk about how people that are musicians would be musicians no matter what and that we're already doing it for free, so what about copyright? Please. It's incredibly easy not to be a musician. It's always a struggle and a dangerous career choice. We are motivated by passion and by money. That's not a dirty little secret. It's a fact. Take away the incentive for major or minor financial reward and you dilute the pool of musicians. I am not saying that only pure artists will survive. Like a few of the more utopian people who discuss this, I don't want just pure artists to survive. Where would we all be without the trash? We need the trash to cover up our national depression. The utopians also say that because in their minds "pure" artists are all Ani DiFranco and don't demand a lot of money. Why are the utopians all entertainment lawyers and major label workers anyway? I demand a lot of money if I do a big huge worthwhile job and millions of people like it, don't kid yourself. In economic terms, you've got an industry that's loathsome and outmoded, but when it works it creates some incentive and some efficiency even though absolutely no one gets paid. We suffer as a society and a culture when we don't pay the true value of goods and services delivered. We create a lack of production. Less good music is recorded if we remove the incentive to create it. Music is intellectual property with full cash and opportunity costs required to create, polish and record a finished product. If I invest money and time into my business, I should be reasonably protected from the theft of my goods and services. When the judgment came against MP3.com, the RIAA sought damages of $150,000 for each major-label-"owned" musical track in MP3's database. Multiply by 80,000 CDs, and MP3.com could owe the gatekeepers $120 billion. But what about the Plimsouls? Why can't MP3.com pay each artist a fixed amount based on the number of their downloads? Why on earth should MP3.com pay $120 billion to four distribution companies, who in most cases won't have to pay a nickel to the artists whose copyrights they've stolen through their system of organized theft? It's a ridiculous judgment. I believe if evidence had been entered that ultimately it's just shuffling big cash around two or three corporations, I can only pray that the judge in the MP3.com case would have seen the RIAA's case for the joke that it was. I'd rather work out a deal with MP3.com myself, and force them to be artist-friendly, instead of being laughed at and having my money hidden by a major label as they sell my records out the back door, behind everyone's back. How dare they behave in such a horrified manner in regards to copyright law when their entire industry is based on piracy? When Mister Label Head Guy, whom my lawyer yelled at me not to name, got caught last year selling millions of "cleans" out the back door. "Cleans" being the records that aren't for marketing but are to be sold. Who the fuck is this guy? He wants to save a little cash so he fucks the artist and goes home? Do they fire him? Does Chuck Phillips of the LA Times say anything? No way! This guy's a source! He throws awesome dinner parties! Why fuck with the status quo? Let's pick on Lars Ulrich instead because he brought up an interesting point! * Conclusion * I'm looking for people to help connect me to more fans, because I believe fans will leave a tip based on the enjoyment and service I provide. I'm not scared of them getting a preview. It really is going to be a global village where a billion people have access to one artist and a billion people can leave a tip if they want to. It's a radical democratization. Every artist has access to every fan and every fan has access to every artist, and the people who direct fans to those artists. People that give advice and technical value are the people we need. People crowding the distribution pipe and trying to ignore fans and artists have no value. This is a perfect system. If you're going to start a company that deals with musicians, please do it because you like music. Offer some control and equity to the artists and try to give us some creative guidance. If music and art and passion are important to you, there are hundreds of artists who are ready to rewrite the rules. In the last few years, business pulled our culture away from the idea that music is important and emotional and sacred. But new technology has brought a real opportunity for change; we can break down the old system and give musicians real freedom and choice. A great writer named Neal Stephenson said that America does four things better than any other country in the world: rock music, movies, software and high-speed pizza delivery. All of these are sacred American art forms. Let's return to our purity and our idealism while we have this shot. Warren Beatty once said: "The greatest gift God gives us is to enjoy the sound of our own voice. And the second greatest gift is to get somebody to listen to it." And for that, I humbly thank you. - - - - - - - - - - - - - Courtney Love From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 11:29:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BCD83BECC; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=is2ZQkLO7XtpxIG3Xkx8+m23SNweRQKy6h1XH+9z7YE+mtq5XZXq2bFbMRVzOlSEM6pn6R3QD6r+38FQlsVdRY6JVUALdFBI/fG7c3o4T3XW+TW4UmYIus4jv9NE2umZnPJ/cDYgtoM8kU6OLXQFEHwzqCq+RRpn0IUjanx4WlU= In-Reply-To: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <168BEF50-490D-4B0B-A2D5-F580458675C9@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: F*** the Music Recording Industry Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:29:48 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:29:51 +0000 (UTC) On 24 apr 2006, at 11.55, loop.pool wrote: > This is an unedited transcript of a speech to the Digital > Hollywood online entertainment conference, given in New York on May > 16. Yes, it was a great speech. The conference was held in year 2000. Here's the originally published text: http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/print.html Interested can also read the related article "The Problem With Music" by Steve Albini: http://www.arancidamoeba.com/mrr/problemwithmusic.html Personally I more or less quit "doing the corporate rock thing" as a major label singed artist in 1997, to focus on making music for pleasure. I wrote some books in Swedish on the matter and when the above two articles came around I was more than delighted. They kind of justified my critical view and also helped me getting more gigs as a speaker, seminar panel moderator etc, thus providing food on my table ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 11:40:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D16BA3BEDC; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <168BEF50-490D-4B0B-A2D5-F580458675C9@gmail.com> References: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <168BEF50-490D-4B0B-A2D5-F580458675C9@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <46E6B38A-BDEA-423D-8098-5A14348FD6BD@fuse.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: monk Subject: Re: F*** the Music Recording Industry Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:40:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:40:43 +0000 (UTC) it's a sad but true speech. she does seem to neglect that if the band wrote their own songs, they'd have made another $2million.... it doesn't really change the nature of the industry however... On Apr 24, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 24 apr 2006, at 11.55, loop.pool wrote: > >> This is an unedited transcript of a speech to the Digital >> Hollywood online entertainment conference, given in New York on >> May 16. > > Yes, it was a great speech. The conference was held in year 2000. > Here's the originally published text: > http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/print.html > > Interested can also read the related article "The Problem With > Music" by Steve Albini: > http://www.arancidamoeba.com/mrr/problemwithmusic.html > > Personally I more or less quit "doing the corporate rock thing" as > a major label singed artist in 1997, to focus on making music for > pleasure. I wrote some books in Swedish on the matter and when the > above two articles came around I was more than delighted. They kind > of justified my critical view and also helped me getting more gigs > as a speaker, seminar panel moderator etc, thus providing food on > my table ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > ric hordinski monk@fuse.net www.richordinski.com www.myspace.com/richordinskimusic 513.260.1043 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 12:33:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FF5D3BED9; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=n4iwDVupHsp6UDRoPoU4awcvFO0NQs+HUmOie01n8cstq1GmIDMDW9GfTtWvhETJicwthxbe/Ef5cq26dWbDqJm2gtLnH7XqR7fumUIEVsolnX3j7ziJiMtyutjUG38l4r0e8HV7ffMDXyziaC+kfB1kNGDJU12zZ+A5xxeNP/Y= In-Reply-To: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <674C4A5A-8A30-4F8D-B630-1E0788442898@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: New "surround music DVD+films+spoken word" finally released :-) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:33:01 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm sorry I'm a bit late to notify the list about this release, the boxes came from the plant last month and I've been extremely busy. But since it's not particularly list oriented music I'm posting this note anyway. Short info on the disk is on www.looproom.com and there is also a link to a web shop that does sell the thing. This DVD is not going out for distribution over the usual stores, because one of its major roles is to be part of a certain management training event (that is now "selling", although on a licensing basis). I'm actually happy with that, because teaming up with a sponsor outside the music industry does leave more creative headroom for me and my playmates (here's also addressing Rick's thread "F*** the Music Recording Industry"). The music is produced in 5.1 surround so you need some kind of "DVD home theatre" to fully enjoy it. For anyone that may only be interested in briefly checking out the music (no art films, no surround audio mix) I posted plain stereo mixed mp3 files at my site for free listening. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 13:29:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 578E33BEDE; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:31:24 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: New "surround music DVD+films+spoken word" finally released :-) In-reply-to: <674C4A5A-8A30-4F8D-B630-1E0788442898@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <024001c667a3$61993ac0$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <4LqlOD.A.4d.JLNTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:29:46 +0000 (UTC) I don't have the home-theater setup, but I listened to a couple of cuts - really fun stuff. I love it that you're introducing all these sounds into corporate events, and I always enjoy hearing the ways in which text can mix into the stew. Congrats. It seems like quite an impressive package. Best wishes, Warren Sirota http://www.warrensirota.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:33 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: New "surround music DVD+films+spoken word" finally > released :-) > > > Hi, > > I'm sorry I'm a bit late to notify the list about this release, the > boxes came from the plant last month and I've been extremely busy. > But since it's not particularly list oriented music I'm posting this > note anyway. Short info on the disk is on www.looproom.com and there > is also a link to a web shop that does sell the thing. > ... > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 13:56:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BD8E3BEDD; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZOKr5F+u1ip98F6FAc5eOZSFmbcW2rlpPYYXYHf5mdOPNIozHvOsOaGD+dnSbaWUk42JBqrHkrhd+iLnO1Dg7rI006ylAzZgE6SXzBIdsi4EEfi8EyaF8aue+Vzobif/5k6FphYUb3voera3Jh7ZCBB0DiXmdYCMnRBcwq2djUk= Message-ID: <588ce11d0604240656y9cfebck585d6a41c2e08e3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:56:10 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MySpace is for Loopers too! In-Reply-To: <001901c646ff$55f8a080$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <2ed.2a5e266.31444be3@aol.com> <001101c64525$be817720$78a1fe91@inap> <001901c646ff$55f8a080$0affff0a@hppav> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Well, it took me a while, but I've got some of my stuff up on Myspace.com. 3 of the tracks are from an upcoming looping CD on Cohort records "More of the Same (Reprise)," a sequel of sorts to a looping CD I did years ago using a EDP called "More of the Same." I'd love to hear what people think. If you like noisy, rhythmic guitar stuff, check out: http://www.myspace.com/artsimon The four pieces are all "one take" mostly guitar improvisations over some rhythmic stuff in EnergyXT. Here are some of the technical details: More of the Same (Reprise) Track 1: Guitar is run throught Green Machine VST amp simulator and then split three ways: I use two pitch shifters, one an octave up and another an octave down through two different instances of xoxo's discipline2 plug in. The straight guitar is looped in Elottronix XL. The rhythms use sampled tablas and EnergyXT's sequencer. April162006: Line6 Toneport split three ways; straight, pitch up an octave, pitch down an octave. Again, the pitch shifted sounds go through discipline2 and the straight guitar is looped in Elottronix XL. The rhythm is the Wack patch in Stylus RMX. More of the Same (Reprise) Track 3: Pretty much the same set up as Track 1, except everything is looped through Mobius More of the Same (Reprise) Track 4: M42 Nebula VST synth and Elottronix. Thanks for listening! -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 14:22:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 694083BEDB; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZqPIdiVovkS7s/1pks1D74JhplAJ02shhDyIQIxWa7Gz1CmwjtRe0jLURYtbY0JVi60P+N3yCd7yaIyXpVWPCZcxoXsN2Dkd2UITv35cZK7XLJrRjDSfU6MDWafvWcRBVaM0OjHDdECf8LWQ3mJVIZMdgtE980qe6k7H78coFXk= ; Message-ID: <20060424142209.18789.qmail@web26211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:22:09 +0200 (CEST) From: rune fagereng Subject: soundclip-live-looping-repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1092414929-1145888529=:14022" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:22:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-1092414929-1145888529=:14022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ! Heres a liveclip with me and the repeater. Best regards Rune F. http://www.runefagereng.com/sound.htm --0-1092414929-1145888529=:14022 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi !
 
Heres a liveclip with me and the repeater.
 
Best regards Rune F.
 
--0-1092414929-1145888529=:14022-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 14:53:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E9B63BECF; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PxxsfYn2i3rrjt2NEI0TnuFejVeXYfTZ6yXMJ1wsZKtmmZb9MD3zwxtxiT4DnnIK1KP+qA1tzeP5vN8k1GEKqvm6qAtrEvvKZitdzJ36JSynwKb64mw4NJWPIZzOTYHtTVI+hqf37Cn+Bs/WToxK0ka6TQ8TOg9MaXkWm73LtVw= Message-ID: <913728d60604240752rbf9c4fvfcf7bfd06b2c1536@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:52:59 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: soundclip-live-looping-repeater In-Reply-To: <20060424142209.18789.qmail@web26211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060424142209.18789.qmail@web26211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:53:01 +0000 (UTC) I like it :) i like "just guitar" the best :) Charlie On 4/24/06, rune fagereng wrote: > > Hi ! > > Heres a liveclip with me and the repeater. > > Best regards Rune F. > > http://www.runefagereng.com/sound.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 15:01:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D28ED3BEE0; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=geEHEXbTSWaoI8jpAz8x3clraF3eNMwU9GulG3TkpHlwtlbzxdpaZ6X9oilAViml8ltZleZ5AfFrMRIq332eOgIZzw7LW5bGJgT3yi2Mv2GBJUNVCepoinSwTsYtvkjbahad6ibbPmESjBMZVbPUO55ozQsivAWo3rYHJGB0Gvc= Message-ID: <913728d60604240801y211ad66avdeda1b53b38c999@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:01:20 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MySpace is for Loopers too! In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0604240656y9cfebck585d6a41c2e08e3d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <2ed.2a5e266.31444be3@aol.com> <001101c64525$be817720$78a1fe91@inap> <001901c646ff$55f8a080$0affff0a@hppav> <588ce11d0604240656y9cfebck585d6a41c2e08e3d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:01:22 +0000 (UTC) I have one! http://www.myspace.com/thirdorderoftheslaphappypinapple don't worry about the band name, its just a working title...i will probably change it once i start making music i'm proud of ;) Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 15:06:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D1173BEE8; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <913728d60604240801y211ad66avdeda1b53b38c999@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:06:05 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/24/2006 11:06:58 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 685236EF1VC299402-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Hello all, Just wondering- is there any reason why there is no LD Message Board? Seems like a lot of the discussions here would move alot faster/ more effficiently if there were a board to post to as opposed to a mailing list. Plus they'd be a lot easier to digest I think. Thoughts? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 15:41:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3444B3BEE9; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001201c667b5$9708ddc0$6401a8c0@charles2> From: "Charles Winters" To: References: <2ed.2a5e266.31444be3@aol.com> <001101c64525$be817720$78a1fe91@inap> <001901c646ff$55f8a080$0affff0a@hppav> <588ce11d0604240656y9cfebck585d6a41c2e08e3d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MySpace is for Loopers too! Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:41:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Art: April16 stands out among the 4. It \ has the closest to what you might describe as a coherent theme. Nice work. I like the idea of "one-take" guitar tracks, it shows off your improv skills. - CW x----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Simon" To: Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:56 AM Subject: Re: MySpace is for Loopers too! Well, it took me a while, but I've got some of my stuff up on Myspace.com. 3 of the tracks are from an upcoming looping CD on Cohort records "More of the Same (Reprise)," a sequel of sorts to a looping CD I did years ago using a EDP called "More of the Same." I'd love to hear what people think. If you like noisy, rhythmic guitar stuff, check out: http://www.myspace.com/artsimon The four pieces are all "one take" mostly guitar improvisations over some rhythmic stuff in EnergyXT. Here are some of the technical details: snip From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 16:04:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDCB33BED5; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:04:28 -0300 From: Andrew Duke Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <444CF70C.8050408@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 (CK-SillyDog) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:04:31 +0000 (UTC) tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: > DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! > > I AM TYPING THIS MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS (AND ONE-HANDED) FOR > A REASON. NO, IT'S NOT THAT. I JUST BURNT MY LEFT HAND RATHER > BADLY ON THE MUFFLER OF A BORROWED LAWN-MOWER. CRAP! > CRAP! CRAP! OOOOOO CRAP! THE SUCKER HURTS TOO. Very sorry to hear about your injury, Ted. I hope you've sought medical attention and things are getting to be less painful. Take care and all the best on the recuperation. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 16:14:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3ACC3BEE4; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=TEtmI91ZbSFYVtTEdiy+CP7PzfySln+9+8SjogxQWgh4iet9CNAtfxu7G8nAj+HBf1A66wTxVSiaa/Gce9oavmfYVA1lF9/KwEqnuf2nsCF4WfxReSLGx8GKpMWKa+3CCNnpLzfSya2w56hTOBVVKFa3iDkIjr+l0igAQy9eVYw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <080B95BA-4FF5-45A4-86F7-68ACB1217FD3@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Message Board Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:14:35 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <7nQbJB.A.wlH.vlPTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:14:39 +0000 (UTC) On 24 apr 2006, at 17.06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Hello all, > > Just wondering- is there any reason why there is no LD Message > Board? Seems > like a lot of the discussions here would move alot faster/ more > effficiently if there were a board to post to as opposed to a > mailing list. > Plus they'd be a lot easier to digest I think. > > Thoughts? Yes. The reason is probably that the system was originally designed for e-mail (maybe Kim will chime in here?) For the rest I think a board could be good as a complement. Myself, I prefer separate mails so I can set up automatic filtering and act quickly (reading, deleting or archiving). Separate mails can be handled very efficiently if the local e-mail client is set up for that. Even though I never read all posts I like to keep a an eye on the total mass of subjects so I know which threads are up. And sometimes I like to save time by offline reading where no internet connection is available - no message board will ever match that! The Logic User Group, another list I have been reading for long time, has recently found a way of keeping an online message board that automatically duplicates every post as mails to the list. The implementation is not perfect though, because such mails all appear to come form the user "forums@logic-users.org" ;-)) no matter who wrote the forum post. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 16:25:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B55483BECC; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <444CFC0E.7000000@bagend.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:25:50 -0500 From: Henry Heine User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix Filter Factory References: <913728d60604212313o39dcd4e2hfc473c6a2030b76@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <913728d60604212313o39dcd4e2hfc473c6a2030b76@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, the filter factory works great with my bass - in the effect loop of my Alembic F1-X preamp, or the channel insert of my Yamaha 01V96. This is a line level device. You cannot plug your instrument directly in, unless you like a lot of noise! -henry Charlie Milkey wrote: > Hi! > > I was just wondering what everybody thought of the Electrix Filter > factory...the vids on the website sound pretty cool, but i have also > heard people say that they aren't as good as they are cracked up to > be...I'd be using it with my bass, so anyone have any experience with > the filter factory? > > > Charlie > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 16:27:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 099933BEF1; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <017901c667bb$f3f012a0$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "INFO at mark francombe" To: References: <009801c666bf$9b3423b0$0207a8c0@eluk1> Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:30:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Unsent: 1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016C_01C66736.53578F60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:27:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016C_01C66736.53578F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PHEW.. Well that really shut me up! Stephen, I am SO sorry that you have = had such a awful experience, and I can see and understand your = anger/grief! To be honest I wasnt really trying to hold up the UK NHS as = a good example, it is phenomaly underfunded, and riddled with probelms, = but I'm sorry but you are really so wrong. There are problems, and I = won't say I havent heard OTHER horror stories, but please... think about = it... there is NO other option than a state funded health service. The = point I was trying to make was that our poor friend Ted is suffering and = that in a sensible society, he should recieve the treatment he needs = with no question as to his means. period. Was it Andy Warhol who said that he was expected to sign an insurance = form before he recieved treatment for his gun shot wound? Seriously my American friends, what happens in an car (or lawnmower) = accident when someone hasnt got insurance? Do they die? mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for = www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stephen Goodman=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE I won't hesitate to echo the urgency of Get Your Hand Treated Properly = - but I cannot agree with holding the UK's National Health up as a = beacon for anything but negligence and waste. They spend most of the = money they skive off the public purse on high salaries for executives, = and wasted something like =A3400m last year alone. The whole thing's a = bureaucracy so big one can hide behind it, and claim "it was someone = else's job". They almost killed me TWICE due to careless (and later = stupidly defensive) medication - only saved by the fact that my wife was = with me and kept on them to just do their bleeding jobs; and the = negligent staff at the NHS killed my mother-in-law this past November, = via the just-shoot-her-up-and-walk-away-so-who-cares method (Midazolam, = administered without telling us, she was dead in 16 hours, supposed to = be given with a crash cart ready in case of shock, and there was nobody = with her when she died). We now understand that an awful lot of elderly = folks don't come out of the hospital in the UK, a statistic that's just = coming to the surface. And that's without MRSA, a problem caused by a = lack of hygiene on the part of cleaners and nurses (though they were = quick to put up these alcogel wash-up stations for everyone to use, as = if dirty hands were the problem, an attempted projection on US when it's = THEM causing the cleanliness problem through their own sloth). The NHS = is a disaster just beginning to emerge, and lots of people are still = trying to hold it up like some kind of medical standard (is Hillary = Clinton still stupidly doing this?). So if you're in the UK try to stay healthy and Stay Out Of The = Hospital - or if you do have to go, take someone of an advocate with = you, in case they screw it up again and kill you by mistake. Sorry, had = to say this. Stephen Goodman ------=_NextPart_000_016C_01C66736.53578F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PHEW.. Well that really shut me up! = Stephen, I am=20 SO sorry that you have had such a awful experience, and I can see and = understand=20 your anger/grief! To be honest I wasnt really trying to hold up the UK = NHS as a=20 good example, it is phenomaly underfunded, and riddled with probelms, = but I'm=20 sorry but you are really so wrong. There are problems, and I won't say I = havent=20 heard OTHER horror stories, but please... think about it... there is NO = other=20 option than a state funded health service. The point I was trying to = make was=20 that our poor friend Ted is suffering and that in a sensible society, he = should=20 recieve the treatment he needs with no question as to his means.=20 period.
 
Was it Andy Warhol who said that he was = expected to=20 sign an insurance form before he recieved treatment for his gun = shot=20 wound?
 
Seriously my American friends, what = happens in an=20 car (or lawnmower) accident when someone hasnt got insurance? Do they=20 die?
 
mark francombe
marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he = writes for www.furthernoise.org and works = at www.transformlearning.com
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Stephen Goodman
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 = 12:20=20 PM
Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A = GUITARISTS=20 SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE

I won't hesitate to echo the urgency of Get Your = Hand=20 Treated Properly - but I cannot agree with holding the UK's National = Health up=20 as a beacon for anything but negligence and waste.  They spend = most of=20 the money they skive off the public purse on high salaries for = executives, and=20 wasted something like =A3400m last year alone.  The whole thing's = a=20 bureaucracy so big one can hide behind it, and claim "it was someone = else's=20 job".  They almost killed me TWICE due to careless (and later = stupidly=20 defensive) medication - only saved by the fact that my wife was with = me and=20 kept on them to just do their bleeding jobs; and the negligent staff = at the=20 NHS killed my mother-in-law this past November, via the=20 just-shoot-her-up-and-walk-away-so-who-cares method (Midazolam, = administered=20 without telling us, she was dead in 16 hours, supposed to be given = with a=20 crash cart ready in case of shock, and there was nobody with her when = she=20 died).  We now understand that an awful lot of elderly folks = don't come=20 out of the hospital in the UK, a statistic that's just coming to the=20 surface.  And that's without MRSA, a problem caused by a lack of = hygiene=20 on the part of cleaners and nurses (though they were quick to put up = these=20 alcogel wash-up stations for everyone to use, as if dirty hands were = the=20 problem, an attempted projection on US when it's THEM causing the = cleanliness=20 problem through their own sloth).  The NHS is a disaster just = beginning=20 to emerge, and lots of people are still trying to hold it up like some = kind of=20 medical standard (is Hillary Clinton still stupidly doing = this?).
 
So if you're in the UK try to stay healthy and = Stay Out Of=20 The Hospital - or if you do have to go, take someone of an advocate = with you,=20 in case they screw it up again and kill you by mistake.  Sorry, = had to=20 say this.
 
Stephen Goodman

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------=_NextPart_000_016C_01C66736.53578F60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 16:43:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 058903BEF1; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "1000times" To: Subject: RE : soundclip-live-looping-repeater Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:43:16 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c667be$2f765850$48a19d53@nom69pxtzsc526> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C667CE.F2FF2850" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20060424142209.18789.qmail@web26211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:43:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C667CE.F2FF2850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great music Rune, I like the 3 of them, good contrast between the clear sounds of Just Guitar and the heavy sound of the other 2, well done =20 nice web site too =20 Francois =20 -----Message d'origine----- De : rune fagereng [mailto:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no]=20 Envoy=E9 : lundi 24 avril 2006 16:22 =C0 : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Objet : soundclip-live-looping-repeater Hi ! =20 Heres a liveclip with me and the repeater. =20 Best regards Rune F. =20 http://www.runefagereng.com/sound.htm=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C667CE.F2FF2850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
great=20 music Rune, I like the 3 of them,
good=20 contrast between the clear sounds of Just Guitar
and=20 the heavy sound of the other 2,
well=20 done
 
nice=20 web site too
 
Francois
 
-----Message d'origine-----
De : rune fagereng = [mailto:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no]
Envoy=E9 : lundi 24 = avril 2006=20 16:22
=C0 :=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Objet :=20 soundclip-live-looping-repeater

Hi !
 
Heres a liveclip with me and the repeater.
 
Best regards Rune F.
 
http://www.runefagereng.co= m/sound.htm=20
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C667CE.F2FF2850-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 17:22:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FE0F3BED9; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=STIANGU8zip3iwLc0aq5bmfCnNiMG6yq/B8rQfTPGyNrIRwNJYkMtd9Nj4tYzqkyWJWdQSWD7V7Z6Fr89kms9CGNDyi8s3QXgnz3C1pGiJ3bLbu75HX++EwZHCJHTef1ZO/Pjz7QGq57np9wMoLKoqch31ExH8tjiv1MEZWs29g= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:22:50 -0700 From: Joey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: <080B95BA-4FF5-45A4-86F7-68ACB1217FD3@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <080B95BA-4FF5-45A4-86F7-68ACB1217FD3@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-FEIjC.A.w7H.slQTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:22:52 +0000 (UTC) On 4/24/06, Per Boysen wrote: The > implementation is not perfect though, because such mails all appear > to come form the user "forums@logic-users.org" ;-)) no matter who > wrote the forum post. haha - I didn't realise this until you posted this reply and always thought there was a guy named forums posting to the list with really erratic discussion topics. One day he was an expert the other day he was a newbie :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 17:26:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6B123BEDB; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eKeZONrC7OpqdkLOExBS5WH9daH+t46b6APxJ3NTaKT27JMGThGjaNWWAg8M47f6hu0bNVMXpc1x/cSn/OetSR6hLg0kU2jMqO+Bd02zg9cSOHvQYz7o4ixj7ay6sbMisXKGhYyNVQriOSSWGg5T5buIXFV3qhDHq+Ic5AueRtU= Message-ID: <588ce11d0604241026v63c47424t23d702db5d3e512f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:26:25 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: F*** the Music Recording Industry In-Reply-To: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Anybody read the profile of Martin N. Bandier in today's New York Times? http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/24/business/media/24music.html?_r=3D1&8dpc&o= ref=3Dslogin There's a great quote: Mr. Bandier said he was not musically inclined as a child, although his dream was to grow up to be a member of the Temptations. "That didn't work out," he said. "But it doesn't matter now because I own all of their stuff." -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 17:38:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE7053BEDD; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <080B95BA-4FF5-45A4-86F7-68ACB1217FD3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:30:01 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/24/2006 01:37:13 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6853D3081VC362828-65-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Is this the way most people feel? I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing lists. I'm just wondering if a board were put up for the same purposes this list serves, if anyone would use it............ "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: 04/24/2006 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Message Board Please respond to Loopers-Delight On 24 apr 2006, at 17.06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Hello all, > > Just wondering- is there any reason why there is no LD Message > Board? Seems > like a lot of the discussions here would move alot faster/ more > effficiently if there were a board to post to as opposed to a > mailing list. > Plus they'd be a lot easier to digest I think. > > Thoughts? Yes. The reason is probably that the system was originally designed for e-mail (maybe Kim will chime in here?) For the rest I think a board could be good as a complement. Myself, I prefer separate mails so I can set up automatic filtering and act quickly (reading, deleting or archiving). Separate mails can be handled very efficiently if the local e-mail client is set up for that. Even though I never read all posts I like to keep a an eye on the total mass of subjects so I know which threads are up. And sometimes I like to save time by offline reading where no internet connection is available - no message board will ever match that! The Logic User Group, another list I have been reading for long time, has recently found a way of keeping an online message board that automatically duplicates every post as mails to the list. The implementation is not perfect though, because such mails all appear to come form the user "forums@logic-users.org" ;-)) no matter who wrote the forum post. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 17:59:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 657D33BEDB; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3168.128.193.37.212.1145901575.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <017901c667bb$f3f012a0$5a01a8c0@mark> References: <009801c666bf$9b3423b0$0207a8c0@eluk1> <017901c667bb$f3f012a0$5a01a8c0@mark> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE From: johnsrude@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <_ui9aB.A.5UF.JIRTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:59:37 +0000 (UTC) > So if you're in the UK try to stay healthy and Stay Out Of The Hospital - or > if you do have to go, take someone of an advocate with you, in case they > screw it up again and kill you by mistake. Sorry, had to say this. Same is true in US hospitals. You would be surprised how many nurses DON'T WASH THEIR HANDS when they move from patient to patient. Shocking, really. Where is Simmelweis when you really need him? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 18:16:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A88DD3BED9; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P9M0Pp4P58gRvZW+ikJSfsP2wBF2jHTqzpLaJpkpSwpf1Y7L5hoUwHgQgviU/vebx4pfYSHsu1QMh+a82Va0+xkQmviAsgiXmrMtXno1z2IFtMwUPRTNM+QRNi2QuWuH6JeF2z06mBkyzS0+5dEqDix8arTserKewuAWmHx0MUk= Message-ID: <913728d60604241116x64cb8020u200f4343015a2f0d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:16:39 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <080B95BA-4FF5-45A4-86F7-68ACB1217FD3@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:16:41 +0000 (UTC) i don't mind either way...i am on some vbulletin-type forums, and they are very nice, but the mailing list is good too...the one good thing about message board is that you can find past topics a lot easier...but both ways are just fine to me :) Charlie On 4/24/06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Is this the way most people feel? > > I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing > lists. > > I'm just wondering if a board were put up for the same purposes this list > serves, if anyone would use it............ > > > > > > "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com > cc: > 04/24/2006 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Message Boar= d > Please respond to > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > On 24 apr 2006, at 17.06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Just wondering- is there any reason why there is no LD Message > > Board? Seems > > like a lot of the discussions here would move alot faster/ more > > effficiently if there were a board to post to as opposed to a > > mailing list. > > Plus they'd be a lot easier to digest I think. > > > > Thoughts? > > > Yes. The reason is probably that the system was originally designed > for e-mail (maybe Kim will chime in here?) For the rest I think a > board could be good as a complement. Myself, I prefer separate mails > so I can set up automatic filtering and act quickly (reading, > deleting or archiving). Separate mails can be handled very > efficiently if the local e-mail client is set up for that. Even > though I never read all posts I like to keep a an eye on the total > mass of subjects so I know which threads are up. And sometimes I like > to save time by offline reading where no internet connection is > available - no message board will ever match that! > > The Logic User Group, another list I have been reading for long time, > has recently found a way of keeping an online message board that > automatically duplicates every post as mails to the list. The > implementation is not perfect though, because such mails all appear > to come form the user "forums@logic-users.org" ;-)) no matter who > wrote the forum post. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the u= se > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt fro= m > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 18:22:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1419F3BEE2; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:21:03 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J449a.7073S.39f8M" Message-Id: <20060424.112118.23743.794740@webmail38.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:3:1375005791 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5PHWteEavDFV4/8AkQCtIjA0cbhqks22iA== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.178|webmail38.nyc.untd.com|webmail38.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:22:15 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J449a.7073S.39f8M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain one other bit of advice for any musician who uses their hands for music = and other activities (and i'm so sorry this is too late to help Ted). bu= y a pair of medium to heavy duty work gloves if yer gonna work outside. = (from a guitarist who lives in an apple orchard ) m This is great advice= for the weekend gardener, also rubber gloves when doing dishes helps ke= ep the hands from drying due to detergents and also helps protect in cas= e you grab a knife the wrong way....I know, I cut my middle finger frida= y, where are those #$%^&* gloves.... weg ----__JWM__J449a.7073S.39f8M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html
one other bit of advice for any musician who uses their hand= s for music and other activities (and i'm so sorry this is too late to h= elp Ted).
 
buy a pair of medium to heavy duty work gloves if yer gonna work out= side.
 
(from a guitarist who lives in an apple orchard )
 
m
 
This is great advice for the weekend gardener, also rubber gloves wh= en doing dishes helps keep the hands from drying due to detergents and a= lso helps protect in case you grab a knife the wrong way....
I know, I cut my middle finger friday,   where are those #= $%^&* gloves....
 
weg
----__JWM__J449a.7073S.39f8M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 18:42:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 569503BEDB; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:43:18 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: MySpace is for Loopers too! In-reply-to: <588ce11d0604240656y9cfebck585d6a41c2e08e3d@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <036501c667ce$f4732ab0$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:42:07 +0000 (UTC) I'm listening to More of the same (reprise) right now, and loving it! Beautiful, Art. Best wishes, Warren Sirota > -----Original Message----- > From: Art Simon [mailto:simart@gmail.com] ... > you like noisy, rhythmic guitar stuff, check out: > > http://www.myspace.com/artsimon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 18:51:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 252F43BEE7; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:55:41 -0700 From: Bob Amstadt To: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board Message-ID: <0B11AD3C1EB473F55A96B758@[192.168.1.149]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:51:14 +0000 (UTC) > Is this the way most people feel? > > I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing > lists. > > I'm just wondering if a board were put up for the same purposes this list > serves, if anyone would use it............ I've been involved with computers and the Internet for longer than I care to admit. I belong to several mailing lists and have belonged to many more along the way. I find that both boards and mailing lists do have their advantages. Different people will have different preferences. I would like to thank Kim for running this list because it is a wonderful resource for us all. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 19:03:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ED0F3BEE6; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LLze+Vrsw8ppmZ2uKIKtMv4kYjokhgsya3OzI7MzI85Av89mS2ieHIMFS8QwST7KSjvrR37yJyaxXE6T/fXwVOMQWoQfWTrsisNoUSzIdzfwb5NyOgV5WR7UVmdqMe2TAW3zoOcSx5Txxh3coQW9doUmXCsZQYXKo0X2bqb5vSs= Message-ID: <8c880ac20604241203v4b8d92byd470ba1c11b9d3a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:03:34 -0700 From: "Matt Love" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: F*** the Music Recording Industry In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0604241026v63c47424t23d702db5d3e512f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <588ce11d0604241026v63c47424t23d702db5d3e512f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:03:37 +0000 (UTC) I agree, it's a great speech, and it's such a shame about Ms. Harrison, and all. I have a deep rooted antipathy for her (and not just because of her misappropriation of my last name). She went on and on about doing advocacy for all musicians, making sure they have representation like screen actors and athletes... but as soon as she and the surviving members of Nirvana settled on the terms of the box set, ("for lots and lots of money" is how I think Ms. Harrison put it) all the other stuff went straight down the memory hole. Some cynical people (not me, heaven forbid) think it was all a bargaining p= loy. Which doesn't make anything she said less true. I think that her people put some good words in her mouth. Subsequent events (or non-events) would seem to support the cynics, though. There's no evidence she meant it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 19:12:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35CF93BEDF; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [67.151.3.146] X-Originating-Email: [tarbit@hotmail.com] X-Sender: tarbit@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <8c880ac20604241203v4b8d92byd470ba1c11b9d3a8@mail.gmail.com> From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: NYC gig: The Lou & Al Show — at The Monkey, Saturday, April 29th, 8pm Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:11:57 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2006 19:11:59.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[F624D580:01C667D2] Resent-Message-ID: <-7swBB.A.lRB.CMSTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Hello All, Alex Marculewicz and I have a show coming up. We will be joined by Bassist Kevin Ray. Hope to see you there! The Lou&Al Show w/special guest Kevin Ray (Bass) Alex Marculewicz (voice) and Lou Rossi (touch guitar), is a combination of voice and guitar improvisation with loops and effects. Sometimes swerving towards melody and other times falling into pure noise. Lou Rossi plays touch guitar with delay looping & various signal processors to create his ambient & textural sounds. He credits his love of expressionism in the development of this eclectic style. http://myspace.com/lourossi Alexandra Marculewicz' vocal approach is based in her roots as lead singer of avant/pop/punk band Deep Sweden (CZ). She is interested in extreme vocal expression and has studied various styles from Roy Hart technique to classical opera. http://www.myspace.com/radiohvezda Saturday April 29, 8pm $15.00 The Monkey 37 west 26th st. suite #1201 between 6th and Broadway V, F trains to 23rd st. stop, N, R trains to 28th st. stop, 6 train to 23rd st. stop, 1, 9 train to 28th st. stop, E train to 23rd st. stop (212) 481-1601 You can order tickets on-line by going to: http://www.themonkeynyc.com/upcomingshows.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 19:40:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8E273BEE1; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on smtp2.ruc.dk X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: Message-ID: <444D2994.9050309@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:40:04 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Is this the way most people feel? > > I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing > lists. > > I'm just wondering if a board were put up for the same purposes this list > serves, if anyone would use it............ It would take a great deal for me to get into another forum/message board system. L*rd knows I have posted my share of messages on forums (Waaay too many messages over at Ableton... eek!), but now I really enjoy the central information hub, that my email program has become. It sorts, deletes, saves information FOR ME, and I don't find myself clicking around: I read messages instead. The only times I have found mailing lists to be a bit of a hassle is when setting up a new machine, either at home or at work - but once everything's up and rollin' it works great! Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 20:02:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63BE33BEE1; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [10.141.30.36] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:01:38 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J2f80.0efaS.54aaM" Message-Id: <20060424.130158.10714.649492@webmail55.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:1:2418117994 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5PHWteEavDFV8l8QBuJzlEerTZCz2rWf2w== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.195|webmail55.nyc.untd.com|webmail55.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:02:51 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J2f80.0efaS.54aaM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain Seriously my American friends, what happens in an car (or lawnmower) acc= ident when someone hasnt got insurance? Do they die? I work at an Americ= an hospital in Charleston, West Virginia and all patients who seek care = receive it reguardless of their insurance or financial qualifications. = I recently read where we gave out over 70 million dollars in goods and s= ervices last year that will not be recouped by Medicare or any other gov= . agency. West Virginia is one of the poorest states in the country but= they are proud! Wild and Wonderful West Virginia! They'll never ta= ke away my West Virginity!Weg ----__JWM__J2f80.0efaS.54aaM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html
Seriously my American friends, wh= at happens in an car (or lawnmower) accident when someone hasnt got insu= rance? Do they die?
 
I work at an American hospital in Charleston, West Virginia and all= patients who seek care receive it reguardless of their insurance or fin= ancial qualifications.  I recently read where we gave out over 70 m= illion dollars in goods and services last year that will not be recouped= by Medicare or any other gov. agency.  West Virgini= a is one of the poorest states in the country but they are proud!  = Wild and Wonderful West Virginia!    
 
They'll never take away my West Virginity!
Weg 
----__JWM__J2f80.0efaS.54aaM-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 20:25:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7D4D3BEF0; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <12fb01c667dd$2db35a80$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: New Improv/Looping CD Release: Interstellar Delirium Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:25:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 540, in=279339, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:25:11 +0000 (UTC) I am pleased to announce the release of my new improvisational looping CD, "Intersteller Delirium". ABOUT THE CD Interstellar Delirium is a delightful entanglement of insane free-improvisation and experimental electronica inspired by imagery of a spaceman's last dying moments and twisted hallucinations in the vacuum of space. Krispen Hartung - guitar, real-time looping, computer electronics, voice, sound effects Jared Hallock - electronic percussion, marimba, acoustic drums, sound effects SAMPLE SOUND CLIPS Disconnect-Drift - http://www.box.net/public/mhuxhpimyz Anseriformes Dementis - http://www.box.net/public/0mcn1u56no Horror Vacui / Neuro-Collapse - http://www.box.net/public/h1d6jrehq6 Narcoticlysm - http://www.box.net/public/9er67t5j81 Repair - http://www.box.net/public/y21zairlv1 We Implode - http://www.box.net/public/khyxocvebl HOW TO BUY Buy the CD at "CD Baby" for $12.99 US here: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/krispen5 Buy the CD in MP3 format for $5.00 US, listen to song samples, or view CD artwork here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/interstellar Cheers, Kris ************************************************* Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm Looper's Delight Playlist - http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 20:38:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4B4F3BEDE; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C667DF.07BE9D63" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:38:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C070FEA@keel.sailpoint.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Thread-Index: AcZn2hJb8Um71jzTS6e2AUPXa82xEgABFWrw From: "jeff larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:38:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C667DF.07BE9D63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I work at an American hospital in Charleston, West Virginia and all > patients who seek care receive it reguardless of their insurance or > financial qualifications. =20 I was debating someone awhile ago that claimed the US more-or-less has "free" health care in the form of one or more designated "county hospitals" that accept the uninsured in the ER. This seems to be the case where I live, one of the local hospitals is well known for accepting the uninsured. =20 Now, this isn't deluxe care, you can expect to wait a minimum of 4 hours on a busy night, and they're not going to give away hip replacements or dialysis. But they seem to cover general practice stuff and major emergencies. I don't know how they pay for it, probably it is factored into the rates they charge the insurance companies for the patients that do have insurance. So in=20 effect we are "taxed" through our insurance companies.=20 =20 I've always been curious if this is the case in other larger US cities. Am I just lucky enough to live in an altrustic city or is this a general trend? =20 And a question for the Europeans, does every 70 year old that needs open heart surgery get it? Are there some well known limits on what is covered, after which you either die or have to go to private hospitals?=20 =20 Jeff ------_=_NextPart_001_01C667DF.07BE9D63 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 > I work at an = American=20 hospital in Charleston, West Virginia and all
> patients who seek = care=20 receive it reguardless of their insurance or
> financial=20 qualifications.
 
I was debating someone = awhile ago=20 that claimed the US more-or-less has
"free" health care in the form = of one or=20 more designated "county
hospitals" that accept the uninsured in the = ER. =20 This seems to be the
case where I live, one of the local hospitals is = well=20 known for
accepting the uninsured.
 
Now, this = isn't deluxe=20 care, you can expect to wait a minimum of 4
hours on a busy night, = and=20 they're not going to give away hip
replacements or dialysis.  = But they=20 seem to cover general practice
stuff and major emergencies.  I = don't=20 know how they pay for it,
probably it is factored into the rates they = charge=20 the insurance
companies for the patients that do have insurance.   So=20 in 
effect we are "taxed" through our = insurance=20 companies. 
 
I've always been = curious if this is=20 the case in other larger US
cities.  Am I just lucky enough to = live in=20 an altrustic city or is
this a general trend?
 
And a = question for the=20 Europeans, does every 70 year old that needs
open heart surgery get = it? =20 Are there some well known limits on what
is covered, after which you = either=20 die or have to go to private
hospitals? 
 
Jeff
------_=_NextPart_001_01C667DF.07BE9D63-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 20:43:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51AEB3BEE9; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:45:07 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board X-Mailer: Virtual Access Open Source http://www.virtual-access.org/ Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Ian Petersen In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Matthew, > I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing > lists. I find quite the reverse is true. Message boards are OK for stuff like product support where you don't need to follow a conversation - just ask a question, get an answer and get out. But they rarely have decent threading, making it impossible to know who is saying what to whom. And, since most web-boards use some sort of time-based cookie arrangement for marking posts read or unread, you never can be sure whether you haven't missed an important message or not. Even worse is the fact that you have to manually go out and fetch each and every message yourself - perhaps from half a dozen or more different boards, each with their own interface and way of working. This is extremely ineffective. It takes me the same time to skim through a couple of dozen web-board messages as it does to skim a couple of hundred emails ... With mailing lists all my messages come to me automatically without having to lift a finger. My mail app sorts them into nicely threaded folders for me to read at my leisure - presented in a consistent and controllable interface no matter where the messages come from. And I'm certain I have all the messages a thread for further reference. In fact I have in my current messagebase every email and news message I've sent or received since 1996! It's a goldmine of information on a variety of subjects that would be impossible to assimilate in any other way. -- Ian Petersen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 21:08:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 383F43BEE4; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20060424170832.2fwgupduzokcsk8c@www.wightman.ca> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:08:32 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: F*** the Music Recording Industry References: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <588ce11d0604241026v63c47424t23d702db5d3e512f@mail.gmail.com> <8c880ac20604241203v4b8d92byd470ba1c11b9d3a8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c880ac20604241203v4b8d92byd470ba1c11b9d3a8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Perhaps I could share my own small record label experience here.... I was signed to a label out of California and did one project of original material and another where I was a contributer to a seasonal (christmas) recording. I had a reasonably good deal, no advances but they paid all the expenses. I would get about 50% of the royalty the rest to be divided amongst the other contributers of the project (this was for the recording of original tunes). Now I did find it a bit of a scam that the producer (who also played guitar, worked on arrangements, and owns the record label) paid himself a very nice sum of money (I think it was in the neighborhood of $15,000.00)for his work while I was paid nothing. He also recieves 25% of the royalty, but his label makes the bulk of the profit... which of course also comes back to him. The sales of that cd were modestly succesful, about 60,000 units from the last statement that I saw. I figured from what it would cost me to get manufactering done, and an equal amount for some advertising that the label has seen close to $150,000.00 profit from that cd.... I have yet to make my first dime. I don't regret that experience, it did give me wider exposure on an international scale that I wouldn't have had otherwise. One of the things that I did come away with was an understanding that if the record label says that they are concerned about the artist's financial concerns..... watch out the shit will be waist deep.... The biggest thing that really does piss me off in a major sort of way, is that even though I will have completely paid for that recording (all the costs are recouped from my $0.65 per unit)... it still is owned by the record label. They can do what they want with that music (I believe I'm currently on about 15 different compilation cds); I can't use any of the tunes on an independant recording. I can't even re-record any of those tunes without their permission. On the bright side, enough of the people who have gotton that cd do take the trouble to find my independant recordings because they like what they've heard, and a few have even gone on to record some of my tunes. So there has been a benefit to my recording label saga.... but not enough of one that I'd do it again, well maybe if there were some better terms of ownership of both the tunes and the resulting recording. For some other opinions about the mp3 file sharing thing you might check out a couple of articles by Janis Ian ( http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html ) I tend to agree with most of her summeries, one being that the labels are really missing the boat by not offering their archived recordings for download for a reasonable amount. I know plenty of people that would be delighted to pay .25 cents to download a song in a decent format, especially if the artist was getting a portion of that. I've had my rant, thanks for listening... Paul Haslem looping hammered dulcimer www.dulcify.ca Quoting Matt Love : > I agree, it's a great speech, and it's such a shame about Ms. > Harrison, and all. I have a deep rooted antipathy for her (and not > just because of her misappropriation of my last name). She went on > and on about doing advocacy for all musicians, making sure they have > representation like screen actors and athletes... > > Which doesn't make anything she said less true. I think that her > people put some good words in her mouth. Subsequent events (or > non-events) would seem to support the cynics, though. There's no > evidence she meant it. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 22:08:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCDFC3BEE0; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nwJqN9HOji7zvaKKSXgGHJdbANR2x8SmXN2V/fXopJAQG3c9tduzhFrGN8eIhLVTEpfJ6Igad2lvxLsi+72yuxqhwbliG9y6GZIMD12jWtaoT/z21h64qMS6oXARwdqo8qrI6i8R7spdqnZkN6zoPagg/pWAzV3x84GBRhNECfk= ; Message-ID: <20060424220850.71964.qmail@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:08:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C070FEA@keel.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:08:51 +0000 (UTC) All i can tell u is that i love the German health care system,nearly everyone residing in Germany is guaranteed access to high quality health care, The right to health care for everyone here is regarded as sacrosanct.the principle of the healthy paying for the sick,and the financing of health care is in its Basic Law.I pay 10 euros every quartal(3 months) when i go to the doctor which covers everything except dental and eye care which is a bit more i believe.This shouldnt be happening to anybody in any rich first world country,i lived in california and loved it but i rather get taxed high and have security than to be in such a desperate situation! cheers Luis > > And a question for the Europeans, does every 70 year > old that needs > open heart surgery get it? Are there some well > known limits on what > is covered, after which you either die or have to go > to private > hospitals? > > Jeff > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 22:15:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ED093BEE0; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r2mkqnwYAUirD+6d68SjiL1AiaPPVqYoTTynyuM/eSioL00nTnsqR2EqHaKWNDx9+Vy6va22A3JAivdkQXDGVCfIdIczfOHUPFW1dO6Y2RHyLgHOuciov1/lx2O02YXtOqCp9EjF0Ekp+/2Ql7qjnNYAjTQjazw1OqXNgZ9I/Hs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:15:56 -0400 From: "mark t" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:15:58 +0000 (UTC) I will chime in and say that I most certainly perfer a message board over l= ists. On 4/24/06, Ian Petersen wrote: > Matthew, > > > I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing > > lists. > > I find quite the reverse is true. Message boards are OK for stuff like > product support where you don't need to follow a conversation - just ask > a question, get an answer and get out. But they rarely have decent > threading, making it impossible to know who is saying what to whom. And, > since most web-boards use some sort of time-based cookie arrangement for > marking posts read or unread, you never can be sure whether you haven't > missed an important message or not. Even worse is the fact that you have > to manually go out and fetch each and every message yourself - perhaps > from half a dozen or more different boards, each with their own > interface and way of working. This is extremely ineffective. It takes me > the same time to skim through a couple of dozen web-board messages as it > does to skim a couple of hundred emails ... > > With mailing lists all my messages come to me automatically without > having to lift a finger. My mail app sorts them into nicely threaded > folders for me to read at my leisure - presented in a consistent and > controllable interface no matter where the messages come from. And I'm > certain I have all the messages a thread for further reference. In fact > I have in my current messagebase every email and news message I've sent > or received since 1996! It's a goldmine of information on a variety of > subjects that would be impossible to assimilate in any other way. > > -- > > Ian Petersen > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 22:17:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE3CC3BEE6; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rmn4p6+wtQs85pw4e9Ox3fVoBHF2jW3FpVWzz9Aww3XzuMsQwOMpq07mxrK5niXdZZp5JyIu68dZCKPLX+yjWK0fSDy3GlMOHgij+ztfH/kYIqo28UaAoixWVDCHDcwQss2ymUe8vWew5NxqGuRHpYarj+xwiWkClNX5rdEbRIA= ; Message-ID: <20060424221707.42661.qmail@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:17:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: MySpace is for Loopers too! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <913728d60604240801y211ad66avdeda1b53b38c999@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <7bihx.A.QjG.k5UTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:17:08 +0000 (UTC) i think is wonderful Charlie specially the hairdue;-) leave it like that man! Luis --- Charlie Milkey wrote: > I have one! > > http://www.myspace.com/thirdorderoftheslaphappypinapple > > don't worry about the band name, its just a working > title...i will > probably change it once i start making music i'm > proud of ;) > > Charlie > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 22:45:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D1EB3BEF0; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=J3k9ncOipZguiCqib+WFw0cR9S3cNWLPdQkaf9jokJ3JL7YkQVRL3U5H6R+4OsRZbQgXklcB1MaeAlIKWSQa8GjTXygGni+O3oYqBDnwAaajJHPhfO+/Z1nGFB+YyO+mgaqlhQyWO1pXyPaCyFDSOlHXw9Q6f+fJv57kacwps88= ; Message-ID: <20060424224515.30538.qmail@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:45:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: F*** the Music Recording Industry To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:45:17 +0000 (UTC) thank you Rick for sharing this! cheers Luis --- "loop.pool" wrote: > This is an old speech but I reread it tonight and it > just made my blood boil. > > It's really long and I warn you, quite depressing, > but I think it's the > truth > no matter what you think of it's author. > > new paradigm, time! > > ********************************************* > > This is an unedited transcript of a speech to > the Digital > Hollywood online entertainment conference, given in > New York on May 16. > > > "Today I want to talk about piracy and music. What > is piracy? Piracy is the > act of stealing an artist's work without any > intention of paying for it. I'm > not talking about Napster-type software. I'm talking > about major label > recording contracts. > I want to start with a story about rock bands and > record companies, and do > some recording-contract math: > > This story is about a bidding-war band that gets a > huge deal with a 20 > percent royalty rate and a million-dollar advance. > (No bidding-war band ever > got a 20 percent royalty, but whatever.) This is my > "funny" math based on > some reality and I just want to qualify it by saying > I'm positive it's > better math than what Edgar Bronfman Jr. [the > president and CEO of Seagram, > which owns Polygram] would provide. > What happens to that million dollars? > They spend half a million to record their album. > That leaves the band with > $500,000. They pay $100,000 to their manager for 20 > percent commission. They > pay $25,000 each to their lawyer and business > manager. > That leaves $350,000 for the four band members to > split. After $170,000 in > taxes, there's $180,000 left. That comes out to > $45,000 per person. > That's $45,000 to live on for a year until the > record gets released. > The record is a big hit and sells a million copies. > (How a bidding-war band > sells a million copies of its debut record is > another rant entirely, but > it's based on any basic civics-class knowledge that > any of us have about > cartels. Put simply, the antitrust laws in this > country are basically a > joke, protecting us just enough to not have to > re-name our park service the > Phillip Morris National Park Service.) > So, this band releases two singles and makes two > videos. The two videos cost > a million dollars to make and 50 percent of the > video production costs are > recouped out of the band's royalties. > The band gets $200,000 in tour support, which is 100 > percent recoupable. > The record company spends $300,000 on independent > radio promotion. You have > to pay independent promotion to get your song on the > radio; independent > promotion is a system where the record companies use > middlemen so they can > pretend not to know that radio stations -- the > unified broadcast system -- > are getting paid to play their records. > All of those independent promotion costs are charged > to the band. > Since the original million-dollar advance is also > recoupable, the band owes > $2 million to the record company. > If all of the million records are sold at full price > with no discounts or > record clubs, the band earns $2 million in > royalties, since their 20 percent > royalty works out to $2 a record. > Two million dollars in royalties minus $2 million in > recoupable expenses > equals ... zero! > How much does the record company make? > They grossed $11 million. > It costs $500,000 to manufacture the CDs and they > advanced the band $1 > million. Plus there were $1 million in video costs, > $300,000 in radio > promotion and $200,000 in tour support. > The company also paid $750,000 in music publishing > royalties. > They spent $2.2 million on marketing. That's mostly > retail advertising, but > marketing also pays for those huge posters of > Marilyn Manson in Times Square > and the street scouts who drive around in vans > handing out black Korn > T-shirts and backwards baseball caps. Not to mention > trips to Scores and > cash for tips for all and sundry. > Add it up and the record company has spent about > $4.4 million. > So their profit is $6.6 million; the band may as > well be working at a > 7-Eleven. > > Of course, they had fun. Hearing yourself on the > radio, selling records, > getting new fans and being on TV is great, but now > the band doesn't have > enough money to pay the rent and nobody has any > credit. > Worst of all, after all this, the band owns none of > its work ... they can > pay the mortgage forever but they'll never own the > house. Like I said: > Sharecropping. > Our media says, "Boo hoo, poor pop stars, they had a > nice ride. Fuck them > for speaking up"; but I say this dialogue is > imperative. And cynical media > people, who are more fascinated with celebrity than > most celebrities, need > to reacquaint themselves with their value systems. > When you look at the legal line on a CD, it says > copyright 1976 Atlantic > Records or copyright 1996 RCA Records. When you look > at a book, though, > it'll say something like copyright 1999 Susan > Faludi, or David Foster > Wallace. Authors own their books and license them to > publishers. When the > contract runs out, writers gets their books back. > But record companies own > our copyrights forever. > The system's set up so almost nobody gets paid. > > * The RIAA * > > Last November, a Congressional aide named Mitch > Glazier, with the support of > the RIAA, added a "technical amendment" to a bill > that defined recorded > music as "works for hire" under the 1978 Copyright > Act. > He did this after all the hearings on the bill were > over. By the time > artists found out about the change, it was too late. > The bill was on its way > to the White House for the president's signature. > That subtle change in copyright law will add > billions of dollars to record > company bank accounts over the next few years -- > billions of dollars that > rightfully should have been paid to artists. A "work > for hire" is now owned > in perpetuity by the record company. > Under the 1978 Copyright Act, artists could reclaim > the copyrights on their > work after 35 years. If you wrote and recorded > "Everybody Hurts," you at > least got it back to as a family legacy after 35 > years. But now, because of > this corrupt little pisher, "Everybody Hurts" never > gets returned to your > family, and can now be sold to the highest bidder. > Over the years record companies have tried to put > "work for hire" provisions > in their contracts, and Mr. Glazier claims that the > "work for hire" only > "codified" a standard industry practice. But > copyright laws didn't identify > sound recordings as being eligible to be called > "works for hire," so those > contracts didn't mean anything. Until now. > Writing and recording "Hey Jude" is now the same > thing as writing an English > textbook, writing standardized tests, translating a > novel from one language > to another or making a map. These are the types of > things addressed in the > "work for hire" act. And writing a standardized test > is a work for hire. Not > making a record. > So an assistant substantially altered a major law > when he only had the > authority to make spelling corrections. That's not > what I learned about how > government works in my high school civics class. > Three months later, the RIAA hired Mr. Glazier to > become === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 22:46:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C19AF3BEFC; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=D3Kv1ujr4NSa1GDENoduH5QyAJ8bdaWXydbPlVLf35WJ9MAs/CzXeox4aTH7OzQj7YkcGxu3waULq6q83TZbTU8Vo7VfXITgujxaDBngpYN+RkZR9yTaMdLflpFylEfaOSZVhvQtCLTf41Z9FGBhf8LKd0n5nQfRuK3Mndt6Gp8= ; Message-ID: <20060424224628.30935.qmail@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: MySpace is for Loopers too! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0604240656y9cfebck585d6a41c2e08e3d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Art its wonderful stuff! i just sent u an invitation cheers Luis --- Art Simon wrote: > Well, it took me a while, but I've got some of my > stuff up on > Myspace.com. 3 of the tracks are from an upcoming > looping CD on Cohort > records "More of the Same (Reprise)," a sequel of > sorts to a looping > CD I did years ago using a EDP called "More of the > Same." I'd love to > hear what people think. If you like noisy, rhythmic > guitar stuff, > check out: > > http://www.myspace.com/artsimon > > The four pieces are all "one take" mostly guitar > improvisations over > some rhythmic stuff in EnergyXT. Here are some of > the technical > details: > > More of the Same (Reprise) Track 1: Guitar is run > throught Green > Machine VST amp simulator and then split three ways: > I use two pitch > shifters, one an octave up and another an octave > down through two > different instances of xoxo's discipline2 plug in. > The straight guitar > is looped in Elottronix XL. The rhythms use sampled > tablas and > EnergyXT's sequencer. > > April162006: Line6 Toneport split three ways; > straight, pitch up an > octave, pitch down an octave. Again, the pitch > shifted sounds go > through discipline2 and the straight guitar is > looped in Elottronix > XL. The rhythm is the Wack patch in Stylus RMX. > > More of the Same (Reprise) Track 3: Pretty much the > same set up as > Track 1, except everything is looped through Mobius > > More of the Same (Reprise) Track 4: M42 Nebula VST > synth and Elottronix. > > Thanks for listening! > -- > Art Simon > simart@null.net > http://art.simon.tripod.com > http://www.myspace.com/artsimon > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 22:48:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B68C3BF01; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WK28nIyMXE4Mt7YPNou0qgs6wvBenHfnFDmZalXICYxfFcgv5bbDB80KS64Sm7yiX8dyb9CmxuQWK6/2+iVZ6lkNZH/pFQhjuXFOnrjiEX4OLrDas0DACGIEZk/pdyv5grUl8xCfyCQ1PkChyaZC64S+Apy/5YeQOUz0AWq2MPY= ; Message-ID: <20060424224830.13565.qmail@web32711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:48:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Monica Subject: just another guitar wanker @ MySpace... 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Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. --0-747434863-1145918910=:11057-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 22:50:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC2993BF01; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OXyELfRfrj57JP3l5w9H31PlNGghfkqBih1DnRngKeu06M4uD6MWNQK2rmsAkfkUYaryEgBYzHRad7XOO5WFdbLXpOAwed1IRJ8EQdZb/qw+mCpGFBGXVbFt6wQwZ61dOIbTgwH1vgYjXzZaXsV9tceDwdeDP9wwU/DUkFfr5Xw= ; Message-ID: <20060424225052.25311.qmail@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:50:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Monica Subject: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-348063050-1145919052=:24683" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:50:53 +0000 (UTC) --0-348063050-1145919052=:24683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just ordered a Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla. - sounds like very interesting tone possibilities there - sort of dreamy Euro prog and atmospheric - anyone check this one out yet? Any feedback? Thanks... Monica Asgard Guitars "guitar technology for the new emerging edge..." coolintensity@yahoo.com coolintensity1@aol.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. --0-348063050-1145919052=:24683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
 
I just ordered a Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla. - sounds like very
interesting tone possibilities there - sort of dreamy Euro prog
and atmospheric - anyone check this one out yet? Any feedback?
Thanks...
Monica


 
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Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. --0-348063050-1145919052=:24683-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 24 23:09:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCDE53BEE6; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KQiXCkch6ItsJrrbuJRu+JsLeBY+GEYpkygUZS152H+ulscpqZ8l2D1cka0expCnqUJQeF7Y7UB/OeiCThh1HIelfShb6rcX4DPli61ML/oaAkdia/xi64l82LNq0R3/dPC7WE7Gxfcn9iN9TmRlU843RAjvrH4OektNIS6spVY= Message-ID: <913728d60604241609n160325c6id3e7392f2700a670@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:09:35 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix Filter Factory In-Reply-To: <444CFC0E.7000000@bagend.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <913728d60604212313o39dcd4e2hfc473c6a2030b76@mail.gmail.com> <444CFC0E.7000000@bagend.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:09:40 +0000 (UTC) I hope so :) i see your domain is bagend.com...do you work for them or something? if so, you make some great bass cabs :) Charlie On 4/24/06, Henry Heine wrote: > Yeah, the filter factory works great with my bass - in the effect loop of= my > Alembic F1-X preamp, or the channel insert of my Yamaha 01V96. > > This is a line level device. You cannot plug your instrument directly in, > unless you like a lot of noise! > > -henry > > Charlie Milkey wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I was just wondering what everybody thought of the Electrix Filter > > factory...the vids on the website sound pretty cool, but i have also > > heard people say that they aren't as good as they are cracked up to > > be...I'd be using it with my bass, so anyone have any experience with > > the filter factory? > > > > > > Charlie > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 01:47:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D13783BEE8; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <674C4A5A-8A30-4F8D-B630-1E0788442898@gmail.com> References: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <674C4A5A-8A30-4F8D-B630-1E0788442898@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: New "surround music DVD+films+spoken word" finally released :-) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:48:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:47:30 +0000 (UTC) PER, KOOL! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS PIECE TO COME OUT FOR A WHILE. I HAVE SOOOOO VERY MUCH ENJOYED YOUR FIRST COLLABORATION WITH DAVID COWLEY AND THE EARLY MP3S OF THIS PROJECT THAT I CAN SAFELY PROMISE THAT IF THE DVD IS REGION 1 COMPATIBLE I WILL BE BUYING ONE SOON. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE! TED On Apr 24, 2006, at 5:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sorry I'm a bit late to notify the list about this release, the > boxes came from the plant last month and I've been extremely busy. But > since it's not particularly list oriented music I'm posting this note > anyway. Short info on the disk is on www.looproom.com and there is > also a link to a web shop that does sell the thing. > > This DVD is not going out for distribution over the usual stores, > because one of its major roles is to be part of a certain management > training event (that is now "selling", although on a licensing basis). > I'm actually happy with that, because teaming up with a sponsor > outside the music industry does leave more creative headroom for me > and my playmates (here's also addressing Rick's thread "F*** the Music > Recording Industry"). > > The music is produced in 5.1 surround so you need some kind of "DVD > home theatre" to fully enjoy it. For anyone that may only be > interested in briefly checking out the music (no art films, no > surround audio mix) I posted plain stereo mixed mp3 files at my site > for free listening. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 02:18:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88B5B3BEF3; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <20060424225052.25311.qmail@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060424225052.25311.qmail@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:15:38 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: <1kzFEB.A.xRB.IcYTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:18:48 +0000 (UTC) It gets nice reviews on another list I'm on--esp. for its "shimmer" setting. But I've heard good things about the straight ahead reverbs as well. I'm a fan of those Tonecore pedals in general. I think Line 6 has done a nice job with them. I have the Tone Core Roto-Machine and Flanger pedals. I'm also interested in picking up a Pod Pro XT (again...had one a long time ago and sold it. Long story). Is anyone here using one? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 02:37:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF5D63BEE7; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1iCbxGOmfMRxNy6t6zUu3JjPaAFlgf5tfLj5miJzziMLGM7ywB7caBd05VlsoOJvBhPIvkkN/t/o5gq2Pia6p4oAhE2h30jVcskHQ66ID+ugeGn6kiNMW5X21xtGAmcqSxenhkUnve+tYgj6QKBHaf7DzeYAMQsbob8T6EZGYv0= ; Message-ID: <20060425023756.26159.qmail@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:37:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Monica Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1468240260-1145932676=:25808" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:37:58 +0000 (UTC) --0-1468240260-1145932676=:25808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes - I just lost an Ebay auction for a Pod Pro XT - which then led me to the Verbzilla. Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now - new and going for around $300 - usual retail is $400. I checked the Harmony Central reviews on the XP and it goes one way or the other - they either love or hate it, nothing in between. Monica Jeff Shirkey wrote: It gets nice reviews on another list I'm on--esp. for its "shimmer" setting. But I've heard good things about the straight ahead reverbs as well. I'm a fan of those Tonecore pedals in general. I think Line 6 has done a nice job with them. I have the Tone Core Roto-Machine and Flanger pedals. I'm also interested in picking up a Pod Pro XT (again...had one a long time ago and sold it. Long story). Is anyone here using one? Jeff Asgard Guitars "guitar technology for the new emerging edge..." coolintensity@yahoo.com coolintensity1@aol.com --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --0-1468240260-1145932676=:25808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Yes - I just lost an Ebay auction for a Pod Pro XT - which then led me to the Verbzilla.
Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now - new and going for around $300 -
usual retail is $400. I checked the Harmony Central reviews on the XP and it goes
one way or the other - they either love or hate it, nothing in between.
Monica

Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:

It gets nice reviews on another list I'm on--esp. for its "shimmer"
setting. But I've heard good things about the straight ahead reverbs
as well. I'm a fan of those Tonecore pedals in general. I think Line
6 has done a nice job with them. I have the Tone Core Roto-Machine
and Flanger pedals.

I'm also interested in picking up a Pod Pro XT (again...had one a
long time ago and sold it. Long story). Is anyone here using one?

Jeff




 
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Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --0-1468240260-1145932676=:25808-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 02:50:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 881183BEFC; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <06ec01c66812$f90fcc60$d2e14744@BlackDell> From: "Paul" To: References: <20060424225052.25311.qmail@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:50:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:50:15 +0000 (UTC) [ I'm also interested in picking up a Pod Pro XT (again...had one a long time ago and sold it. Long story). Is anyone here using one? ] Hi: I had one of the original Line6 Pro Pods a while back. I'd like to get another one. There was a tone I got out of that that I've never been able to replicate. It was so awesome and I was so inspired, I came up with a tune that ended up being one of my all-time favorites (of my own stuff). I wonder if the Pro Pod XT is similar to the original. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Shirkey" To: Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla > > It gets nice reviews on another list I'm on--esp. for its "shimmer" > setting. But I've heard good things about the straight ahead reverbs as > well. I'm a fan of those Tonecore pedals in general. I think Line 6 has > done a nice job with them. I have the Tone Core Roto-Machine and Flanger > pedals. > > I'm also interested in picking up a Pod Pro XT (again...had one a long > time ago and sold it. Long story). Is anyone here using one? > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 02:55:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 481803BF05; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <070101c66813$a6106f00$d2e14744@BlackDell> From: "Paul" To: References: <20060425023756.26159.qmail@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:55:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_06FE_01C667F2.1ECCC280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:55:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_06FE_01C667F2.1ECCC280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now ] Do you mean XT's? They seem to be in the $495 price range. Paul ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Monica=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla Yes - I just lost an Ebay auction for a Pod Pro XT - which then led me = to the Verbzilla. Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now - new and going for around = $300 - usual retail is $400. I checked the Harmony Central reviews on the XP = and it goes one way or the other - they either love or hate it, nothing in = between. Monica Jeff Shirkey wrote: It gets nice reviews on another list I'm on--esp. for its "shimmer"=20 setting. But I've heard good things about the straight ahead reverbs = as well. I'm a fan of those Tonecore pedals in general. I think Line = 6 has done a nice job with them. I have the Tone Core Roto-Machine=20 and Flanger pedals. I'm also interested in picking up a Pod Pro XT (again...had one a=20 long time ago and sold it. Long story). Is anyone here using one? Jeff Asgard Guitars "guitar technology for the new emerging edge..." coolintensity@yahoo.com coolintensity1@aol.com=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just = 2=A2/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------=_NextPart_000_06FE_01C667F2.1ECCC280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
[Lots of XPs=20 showing up on Ebay right now ]
 
Do you mean XT's?
 
They seem to be in the $495 price=20 range.
 
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Monica
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 = 10:37=20 PM
Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore=20 Verbzilla

Yes - I just lost an Ebay auction for a Pod Pro XT - which then = led me to=20 the Verbzilla.
Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now - new and going for = around $300=20 -
usual retail is $400. I checked the Harmony Central reviews on = the XP and=20 it goes
one way or the other - they either love or hate it, nothing in=20 between.
Monica

Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu= >=20 wrote:

It=20 gets nice reviews on another list I'm on--esp. for its "shimmer"=20
setting. But I've heard good things about the straight ahead = reverbs=20
as well. I'm a fan of those Tonecore pedals in general. I think = Line=20
6 has done a nice job with them. I have the Tone Core = Roto-Machine=20
and Flanger pedals.

I'm also interested in picking up a = Pod Pro=20 XT (again...had one a
long time ago and sold it. Long story). Is = anyone=20 here using one?

Jeff




 
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"guitar technology for the new emerging edge..."
coolintensity@yahoo.com
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Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls=20 to 30+ countries for just 2=A2/min with Yahoo! Messenger with=20 Voice. ------=_NextPart_000_06FE_01C667F2.1ECCC280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 03:07:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F75D3BF06; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: Subject: PODxt Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:07:26 -0400 Message-ID: <01e101c66815$61953c50$6700a8c0@mincer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01E2_01C667F3.DA839C50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <070101c66813$a6106f00$d2e14744@BlackDell> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZoE6ZHjCWPfzn3SgeZUQLl+1LxWAAAWRxQ X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:07:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E2_01C667F3.DA839C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit XTs are nice- and the firmware was just updated, adding a pitch sifter and some more models. They also just came out with a Bass model pack, essentially making an XT a Bass XT- it includes all the amps and stuff from the Bass version. I eventually sold mine to get a Boss GT-Pro, which, effects-wise, is pretty mighty. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://www.hazardfactor.com Yes - I just lost an Ebay auction for a Pod Pro XT - which then led me to the Verbzilla. Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now - new and going for around $300 - usual retail is $400. I checked the Harmony Central reviews on the XP and it goes one way or the other - they either love or hate it, nothing in between. Monica ------=_NextPart_000_01E2_01C667F3.DA839C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
XTs are nice- and the firmware was just updated, adding a pitch = sifter=20 and some more models. They also just came out with a Bass model pack,=20 essentially making an XT a Bass XT- it includes all the amps and stuff = from the=20 Bass version.
 
I=20 eventually sold mine to get a Boss GT-Pro, which, effects-wise, is = pretty=20 mighty.
 

Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices
http://www.hazardfactor.com=20

 =20  
Yes - I just lost an Ebay auction for a Pod Pro XT - which then = led me=20 to the Verbzilla.
Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now - new and going for = around=20 $300 -
usual retail is $400. I checked the Harmony Central reviews on = the XP=20 and it goes
one way or the other - they either love or hate it, nothing in=20 between.
Monica
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------=_NextPart_000_01E2_01C667F3.DA839C50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 03:48:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEB4A3BF02; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <06ec01c66812$f90fcc60$d2e14744@BlackDell> References: <20060424225052.25311.qmail@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <06ec01c66812$f90fcc60$d2e14744@BlackDell> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: XT Pro Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:45:03 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:48:16 +0000 (UTC) > [ > > I had one of the original Line6 Pro Pods a while back. I'd like to > get another one. There was a tone I got out of that that I've never > been able to replicate. It was so awesome and I was so inspired, I > came up with a tune that ended up being one of my all-time > favorites (of my own stuff). I wonder if the Pro Pod XT is similar > to the original. If you liked the original, you'll probably love the current incarnation. The amp models have gotten much better. The latest software revision (3.0) includes still more amp and fx models, and there are also additional fx and amp packs that you can purchase. Check out line6.com for details, clips, movies, etc. At first I thought the XT's amp models were pretty poor, but that could have been due to the way I was using the box--with a combo amp. I wouldn't use it with an amp now, but instead would use it for direct recording. I've talked to a few people whose opinions and experience I trust, and they say that you can get some great sounds of the XT. Plus, it also takes pedals well (of which I have tons...), and has an fx loop. I can put my Eventide in there for good measure. And I can record without disturbing the neighbors or the family. Anyway, I think I'll give the XT another chance. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 06:55:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC84A3BED9; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tPMd3DKNqCXw/W8GFyjfvNZ1Og79fQ2rRGdlaiMAFM6jIj0knm9XJD6ZS8jmPA/BXfzfi7vLq7xn3dkW7HeCAeUOhVd9uCSAUg1XCDWIKJ78E/Iw06Bx9Tf4uCKWqAN9ZGxcqDzf8DKQThSGEN76KqI0+Jrmri9lZKlGV0hobvA= ; Message-ID: <20060425065545.74113.qmail@web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:55:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Monica Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <070101c66813$a6106f00$d2e14744@BlackDell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-27358952-1145948145=:73779" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:55:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-27358952-1145948145=:73779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes XTs - sorry for being dyslexic...I did see them at musiciansfriend for $400 recently and going on Ebay now - new - usually for about $300. Paul wrote: [Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now ] Do you mean XT's? They seem to be in the $495 price range. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Monica To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla Yes - I just lost an Ebay auction for a Pod Pro XT - which then led me to the Verbzilla. Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now - new and going for around $300 - usual retail is $400. I checked the Harmony Central reviews on the XP and it goes one way or the other - they either love or hate it, nothing in between. Monica Jeff Shirkey wrote: It gets nice reviews on another list I'm on--esp. for its "shimmer" setting. But I've heard good things about the straight ahead reverbs as well. I'm a fan of those Tonecore pedals in general. I think Line 6 has done a nice job with them. I have the Tone Core Roto-Machine and Flanger pedals. I'm also interested in picking up a Pod Pro XT (again...had one a long time ago and sold it. Long story). Is anyone here using one? Jeff Asgard Guitars "guitar technology for the new emerging edge..." coolintensity@yahoo.com coolintensity1@aol.com --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Asgard Guitars "guitar technology for the new emerging edge..." coolintensity@yahoo.com coolintensity1@aol.com --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --0-27358952-1145948145=:73779 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Yes XTs - sorry for being dyslexic...I did see them at musiciansfriend for $400 recently
and going on Ebay now - new - usually for about $300.

Paul <paulrichard10@adelphia.net> wrote:
[Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now ]
 
Do you mean XT's?
 
They seem to be in the $495 price range.
 
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Monica
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla

Yes - I just lost an Ebay auction for a Pod Pro XT - which then led me to the Verbzilla.
Lots of XPs showing up on Ebay right now - new and going for around $300 -
usual retail is $400. I checked the Harmony Central reviews on the XP and it goes
one way or the other - they either love or hate it, nothing in between.
Monica

Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:

It gets nice reviews on another list I'm on--esp. for its "shimmer"
setting. But I've heard good things about the straight ahead reverbs
as well. I'm a fan of those Tonecore pedals in general. I think Line
6 has done a nice job with them. I have the Tone Core Roto-Machine
and Flanger pedals.

I'm also interested in picking up a Pod Pro XT (again...had one a
long time ago and sold it. Long story). Is anyone here using one?

Jeff




 
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Messenger with Voice. --0-27358952-1145948145=:73779-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 07:02:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E59F3BEE1; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <20060425065545.74113.qmail@web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060425065545.74113.qmail@web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0D710E04-A3B7-424E-8F70-AB8C82AD837F@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:59:36 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:02:48 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 25, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Monica wrote: > Yes XTs - sorry for being dyslexic...I did see them at > musiciansfriend for $400 recently > and going on Ebay now - new - usually for about $300. Bear in mind that that is the XT "bean" version, not the XT Pro, which is a 2 space rack unit. The XT Pro typically goes for $699, although you can do better than that. Full Compass sells them for $601, I believe. And I just snagged a new one on ebay for $495. ;) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 07:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DB703BEE6; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060424235854.01e91df0@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:10:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) In-Reply-To: <20060425065545.74113.qmail@web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <070101c66813$a6106f00$d2e14744@BlackDell> <20060425065545.74113.qmail@web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:10:27 +0000 (UTC) I don't want to seem like a troglodyte or anything but I wonder if people have simply considered a judicious selection of analog pedals and a good cab simulator instead of digital simulations. I have a modest pedal board with pitch-shifter, delay, distortion, wah, reverb and chorus but I never seem to run out of incredible sounds to create from it. I've tried a number of digital boards but the problems I have with them are twofold: First, patches aren't intuitive. I don't know exactly what I'm getting as I do when I'm tweaking knobs. There's a discontinuity that I find very disconcerting. Second, digital simulations seem to break down at those very points that I find most interesting when I'm working with analog effects. A digital howl disappears just when I want to goose it with excessive amounts of gain or with total abuse of my wah or pitch-shifter pedal. A low level multi-harmonic hum fades just when I want to capture it in a loop. Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to abuse analog or even acoustic effects? Or will I finally see the light and buy a laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? Cheaply, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 07:20:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE9563BEF0; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:20:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: yet another MySpace Looper Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <444DDBB3.4014.250A5C@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20060424221707.42661.qmail@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: <64STnD.A.KqC.q2cTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:20:10 +0000 (UTC) FOllowing the thread of own-trumpet-blowing, my page is http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops If you pop along to my "main" site, http://www.nickrobinson.info/music you can listen to an early mix of a track I created using some loops from Bernhard Wagner, mixed in with my own - BH fans might to be able to detect which is which! I hope to release a CD of NR/BH music later this summer. All the best, Nick Robinson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 10:49:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BD413BED9; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=qWy6IDNQBI45RPIPbuPSFO912pZ8O+/i+Mf+L2RkKY3KpX1l/uGxRpXdYyW7KhctXbxGEmTBkdLLGlwayd8EiDNXs17h0fKomcMROE9VCOVNTR1obF3SMa4sWBU4LvMpyT3iXk1ogbGnUtObWH9FFHQC62LQnHtQKcl5eMgwPZM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: References: <016201c66785$3f46e580$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <674C4A5A-8A30-4F8D-B630-1E0788442898@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <96EFB6C1-CE14-425E-BBD9-458F0E7331CF@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: New "surround music DVD+films+spoken word" finally released :-) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:49:04 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Hi Ted, Yes, we especially took care to finalize the DVD without the region =20 restriction code activated. I was sad the other day reading about your burning accident. Hope you =20= will soon recover. AAMOF I've spent some hours today with David Cowley recording new =20 material for the future. This "next level" speeches are prepared in a =20= more structured way, inspired by Haiku poetry. We'll see what music =20 that will imply... All the best Per On 25 apr 2006, at 03.48, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > PER, > > KOOL! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS PIECE TO COME OUT FOR A WHILE. > I HAVE SOOOOO VERY MUCH ENJOYED YOUR FIRST COLLABORATION > WITH DAVID COWLEY AND THE EARLY MP3S OF THIS PROJECT THAT > I CAN SAFELY PROMISE THAT IF THE DVD IS REGION 1 COMPATIBLE > I WILL BE BUYING ONE SOON. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE! > > TED > > On Apr 24, 2006, at 5:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm sorry I'm a bit late to notify the list about this release, =20 >> the boxes came from the plant last month and I've been extremely =20 >> busy. But since it's not particularly list oriented music I'm =20 >> posting this note anyway. Short info on the disk is on =20 >> www.looproom.com and there is also a link to a web shop that does =20 >> sell the thing. >> >> This DVD is not going out for distribution over the usual stores, =20 >> because one of its major roles is to be part of a certain =20 >> management training event (that is now "selling", although on a =20 >> licensing basis). I'm actually happy with that, because teaming up =20= >> with a sponsor outside the music industry does leave more creative =20= >> headroom for me and my playmates (here's also addressing Rick's =20 >> thread "F*** the Music Recording Industry"). >> >> The music is produced in 5.1 surround so you need some kind of =20 >> "DVD home theatre" to fully enjoy it. For anyone that may only be =20 >> interested in briefly checking out the music (no art films, no =20 >> surround audio mix) I posted plain stereo mixed mp3 files at my =20 >> site for free listening. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 12:36:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C73683BED9; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <15931240.1145968572498.JavaMail.root@web14.mail.adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 5:36:12 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla Cc: Jeff Shirkey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <5aEKh.A.e6G.9ehTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Yeah - that's the one I was referring to: the rack mount version. -- Paul Richards ---- Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Monica wrote: > > > Yes XTs - sorry for being dyslexic...I did see them at > > musiciansfriend for $400 recently > > and going on Ebay now - new - usually for about $300. > > Bear in mind that that is the XT "bean" version, not the XT Pro, > which is a 2 space rack unit. The XT Pro typically goes for $699, > although you can do better than that. Full Compass sells them for > $601, I believe. And I just snagged a new one on ebay for $495. ;) > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 13:50:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12F323BEDD; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-71.messagelabs.com!1145972612!32695908!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9127@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: dulay & california (was Sustainiac and Fathead) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:37:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6686D.6C60E050" Resent-Message-ID: <67ds6D.A.YcB.0kiTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:50:44 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6686D.6C60E050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >>Brooks is evasive about the technology because he had the actual circuit engineering done by a Mr Kam Dulay, based in the West Midlands of the United Kingdoim. I worked with Kam on some unrelated electronics for several years.<< nik- would you have any idea if mr dulay is still active in guitar electronics? I had some correspondence with him some years ago (& by correspondence, I mean actual letters & 'phone calls... so this is a while back). he sold me a funny little box made by EH, with an eight-step analogue sequencer & very basic synth engine, & a cork pad on the front for drummers to hit. it amused us for hours, this thing, as we nudged it around the floor of the studio with our feet, it made noises like an old arcade machine. anyway, mr dulay said he had a lot of the (then defunct) EH schematics & was also designing new effects & did we have any ideas for stuff we wanted building that didn't exist elsewhere? at the time, we were obsessed with rotary speaker simulators & had several of them already. (fwiw, I reckon the boss se70 makes a reasonable job of it, though the korg g4 is better for guitarists as it lives on the floor) he did some work for the late mr california, I believe.... & one of the "jobs" I did for him in return was to transfer a 525 tape of a documentary about spirit. small world- one of the sound guys here (mtv in london) worked on an album that RC was recording in london, during which time RC was mildly making a nuisance of himself with this guy's sister.... I only saw spirit once, in 1992 I think, but we got right up to the stage & handed up a spliff. it seemed like the least we could do. "future games" is one of my favourite albums ever. I eventually saw through what I initially took to be dodgy politics "& the next day we bought datsuns & sonys...." in fact he was just pointing out the hypocrisy. I think. duncan. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of MTV Networks Europe unless specifically stated, nor does this message form any part of any contract unless so stated. MTV reserves the right to monitor e-mail communications from external/internal sources for the purposes of ensuring correct and appropriate use of MTV communication equipment. MTV Networks Europe *************************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6686D.6C60E050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: dulay & california (was Sustainiac and Fathead)

>>Brooks is evasive about the technology because he= had the actual circuit engineering done by a Mr Kam Dulay, based in the We= st Midlands of the United Kingdoim. I worked with Kam on some unrelated ele= ctronics for several years.<<

nik- would you have any idea if mr dulay is still active = in guitar electronics? I had some correspondence with him some years ago (&= amp; by correspondence, I mean actual letters & 'phone calls... so this= is a while back).

he sold me a funny little box made by EH, with an eight-s= tep analogue sequencer & very basic synth engine, & a cork pad on t= he front for drummers to hit. it amused us for hours, this thing, as we nud= ged it around the floor of the studio with our feet, it made noises like an= old arcade machine.

anyway, mr dulay said he had a lot of the (then defunct) = EH schematics & was also designing new effects & did we have any id= eas for stuff we wanted building that didn't exist elsewhere? at the time, = we were obsessed with rotary speaker simulators & had several of them a= lready.

(fwiw, I reckon the boss se70 makes a reasonable job of i= t, though the korg g4 is better for guitarists as it lives on the floor)

he did some work for the late mr california, I believe...= . & one of the "jobs" I did for him in return was to transfer= a 525 tape of a documentary about spirit. small world- one of the sound gu= ys here (mtv in london) worked on an album that RC was recording in london,= during which time RC was mildly making a nuisance of himself with this guy= 's sister....

I only saw spirit once, in 1992 I think, but we got right= up to the stage & handed up a spliff. it seemed like the least we coul= d do. "future games" is one of my favourite albums ever. I eventu= ally saw through what I initially took to be dodgy politics "& the= next day we bought datsuns & sonys...." in fact he was just point= ing out the hypocrisy. I think.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C6686D.6C60E050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 13:55:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C7913BEFE; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loop List From: Steve Lawson Subject: Myspace stuffs... Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:55:12 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - paddington.sitehq4.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Just uploaded two tracks from my brand new album (out in June), called Behind Every Word. The tracks are Jimmy James (a remake of a track that was on my album Not Dancing For Chicken) and another one called Me Myself And I. check 'em out on my page at www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson cheers! Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobasstevelawson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 14:02:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC1733BF05; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:02:18 -0400 From: enat21213@aol.com Message-Id: <8C83687FFB39319-16F8-523@FWM-R10.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 17385 Subject: electric bird noise track on myspace Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-AOL-IP: 152.163.211.138 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:02:30 +0000 (UTC) http://myspace.com/nomorestarsrecords thoughts? brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 14:04:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 540573BF0D; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-82.messagelabs.com!1145973801!31066341!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9129@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: PODs Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:03:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C66871.01901210" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:04:00 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C66871.01901210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >> XTs are nice- and the firmware was just updated, adding a pitch sifter and some more models. << does it sift out bum notes? :-) I have an original kidney-bean bass pod & it's fantastic for recording, but somewhat uninspiring for general dicking-around-with. I took the time to build several useable patches on it (optimised for lemmy-a-like rickenbacker, low-tuned ibanez, my fender VI & so forth) & then left it alone. I think kevin's got a point- no matter how carefully a single manufacturer tries to get his DSP to do all manner of things with different degrees of success, it's not as much fun as trying to get a mess of different pedals to behave themselves the way you want them to. long live pete cornish. d. *************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed, and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever.If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. It is your responsibility to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. 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 >> XTs are nice- and the firmware was just updated, adding a pitch sifter and some more models. <<
 
does it sift out bum notes? :-)
 
I have an original kidney-bean bass pod & it's fantastic for recording, but somewhat uninspiring for general dicking-around-with. I took the time to build several useable patches on it (optimised for lemmy-a-like rickenbacker, low-tuned ibanez, my fender VI & so forth) & then left it alone.
 
I think kevin's got a point- no matter how carefully a single manufacturer tries to get his DSP to do all manner of things with different degrees of success, it's not as much fun as trying to get a mess of different pedals to behave themselves the way you want them to. 
long live pete cornish.
 
d.


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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C66871.01901210-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 14:11:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AC0C3BF12; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008501c66872$12136820$0300a8c0@STUDY> Reply-To: "Nik" From: "Nik" To: References: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9127@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Subject: Re: dulay & california (was Sustainiac and Fathead) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:10:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I haven't been in touch with Kam for several years, but he may still have a day-job with Klark Teknik: www.klarkteknik.com I was R&D manager there...once upon a time. I didn't know anything about his extra-mural activities. He did ask me about guitar FX a couple of times an about how my E-bow worked, and could he borrow it please to take it apart... Then I say his name in the Brook article and put 2 and 2 together. He was very sheepish and evasive when I confronted him about it. I guess he wanted to keep quiet about designing stuff for others outside of the company - strictly a no-no in this business - but I just wanted to hear some stories and get an introduction to The Edge! As for RC, all I have of his is the Twelve Dreams of Doctor thingy. There's some good songs o there, but I never rated the guitar playing much. Nik ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: RE: dulay & california (was Sustainiac and Fathead) >>>Brooks is evasive about the technology because he had the actual circuit > engineering done by a Mr Kam Dulay, based in the West Midlands of the > United > Kingdoim. I worked with Kam on some unrelated electronics for several > years.<< > > nik- would you have any idea if mr dulay is still active in guitar > electronics? I had some correspondence with him some years ago (& by > correspondence, I mean actual letters & 'phone calls... so this is a while > back). > > he sold me a funny little box made by EH, with an eight-step analogue > sequencer & very basic synth engine, & a cork pad on the front for > drummers > to hit. it amused us for hours, this thing, as we nudged it around the > floor > of the studio with our feet, it made noises like an old arcade machine. > > anyway, mr dulay said he had a lot of the (then defunct) EH schematics & > was > also designing new effects & did we have any ideas for stuff we wanted > building that didn't exist elsewhere? at the time, we were obsessed with > rotary speaker simulators & had several of them already. > (fwiw, I reckon the boss se70 makes a reasonable job of it, though the > korg > g4 is better for guitarists as it lives on the floor) > > he did some work for the late mr california, I believe.... & one of the > "jobs" I did for him in return was to transfer a 525 tape of a documentary > about spirit. small world- one of the sound guys here (mtv in london) > worked > on an album that RC was recording in london, during which time RC was > mildly > making a nuisance of himself with this guy's sister.... > I only saw spirit once, in 1992 I think, but we got right up to the stage > & > handed up a spliff. it seemed like the least we could do. "future games" > is > one of my favourite albums ever. I eventually saw through what I initially > took to be dodgy politics "& the next day we bought datsuns & sonys...." > in > fact he was just pointing out the hypocrisy. I think. > > duncan. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 16:00:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BACA3BEDE; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=B+msK6jMufh2BOuwqdGZXi/O2w1KAcfo6GkuyF9fzUuKcDtbgobtBwFGIcH5jDxqwHTE/eDIXjHm6T1t5nyURPr3Am0CMx+RiiHGIChntCa4R1lnOadRkyiYffgq+1VPru3/yAKXwg87Y4wvzOH07QqvC/lCpGhVZ5W5AJ20wPo= ; Message-ID: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> From: "Ben" To: Subject: semi-OT: usine Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:00:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:00:42 +0000 (UTC) www.sensomusic.com A new software looper and VST host. I didn't had the time to fully try it but seems cool. Ben Here's the feature list from the manual: Usine is a universal audio software especially designed for live or studio utilisation. Usine is made by musicians and audio engineers to respond to their specific problems in a lot of domains like live sampling, effect processing or sound design. Usine is a real musical instrument, flexible and powerful if you like to transform, resample the sound on stage (not only push the play button of your sequencer!), improvise and create unusual effect. What can you do with Usine? . Build modular sound processing: creates patch with "modules" and connect them by virtual wires very simply. . Analyse input or generated sound, for example pitch, peaks or dynamics to create adaptive effects, modify any parameter in real time. . Use the built-in virtual mixing table to mix the sound produced by different patchs on each tracks (up to 16). . Create huge, creative or stupid audio routing within the mixing table. For example, routing, a patch output to another patch input, or create a virtual master effect send and return, etc. . Manage 16 external audio sources (8 stereo) and apply different effects to any of them. . Create flexible Surround or 5.1 projects: all audio tracks are 5.1 or 6.0. The output sound can routed to any of the 16 available outputs, depending on your sound card. . Create inserts patchs on any input / output channels. For example a master limiter or a master reverb. . Complete VST® processing: You can use any VST instruments or effect in patchs and modify any VST Parameter in real time. Create a front-end simple interface. . Complete MIDI automation: assign any Usine visual object to a midi controller very simply by using the midi-learn command. Complete integration of motorized external controllers. . Complete MIDI input/output management, for VSTi instruments or external expanders. . Load up to 256 patchs in memory in a "grid" and activate them as you want in real time. . Unlimited scene memorization, recalled manually or according to a precise smpte code. . Synchronize patchs and VST plug-ins with a master tempo. Use unusual and absurd tempos from 0! To 10000000000! . Record your creations directly on the hard disk in real time: separate tracks, inputs and outputs. . All Usine functions are "real-time", and you can resample, modify, input sound on the fly. Of course, save patchs, complete workspaces, and configurations, for a very quick adaptation to different projects. . Unlimited Undo/Redo. . Use any sample rate, depending on your Asio sound card. Usine has a 32 bit floating point audio engine. . If you are a C++ or Delphi programmer you can easily create new users modules with the API. ___________________________________________________________________________ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 16:13:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FF243BEE2; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> References: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-170664151 Message-Id: <335F95A6-5398-4BD4-BFE4-68F05A0C5E80@skeletonhome.com> From: bruce tovsky Subject: Re: semi-OT: usine Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:13:08 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:13:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-170664151 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Apr 25, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Ben wrote: > www.sensomusic.com > > A new software looper and VST host. too bad it's windows only, looks pretty cool. seems to be built in max. cheers bruce bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane." Philip K. Dick --Apple-Mail-7-170664151 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Apr 25, 2006, = at 12:00 PM, Ben wrote:

www.sensomusic.com


A new software looper and = VST host.


too bad it's windows = only, looks pretty cool. seems to be built in = max.
cheers
bruce

bruce tovsky

www.skeletonhome.com


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= --Apple-Mail-7-170664151-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 16:29:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 032D33BEE9; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <156e01c66885$63850980$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <12fb01c667dd$2db35a80$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: New Improv/Looping CD Release: Interstellar Delirium Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:29:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 541, in=280278, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Well, I guess I'll join the bandwagon and update my Myspace page with a few songs from my new CD, so that you can hear the complete songs rather than the samples. I added "Anseriformes Dementis" and "Horror Vacui - Neuro-Collapse" (I had to upload just the "Neuro-Collapse" section because the MP3 was too large). www.myspace.com/krispenhartung By the way, Anseriformes is an order of bird that includes ducks and other fowl, and "dementis" should be self-explanatory (Latin for demented)...the song title roughly translates as "Demented Duck", which becomes apparent about half way into the song....although it is not the duck that is under question here. :) Cheers, ************************************************* Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm Looper's Delight Playlist - http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u ----- Original Message ----- >I am pleased to announce the release of my new improvisational looping CD, >"Intersteller Delirium". > > ABOUT THE CD > > Interstellar Delirium is a delightful entanglement of insane > free-improvisation and experimental electronica inspired by imagery of a > spaceman's last dying moments and twisted hallucinations in the vacuum of > space. > > Krispen Hartung - guitar, real-time looping, computer electronics, voice, > sound effects > Jared Hallock - electronic percussion, marimba, acoustic drums, sound > effects > > SAMPLE SOUND CLIPS > > Disconnect-Drift - http://www.box.net/public/mhuxhpimyz > Anseriformes Dementis - http://www.box.net/public/0mcn1u56no > Horror Vacui / Neuro-Collapse - http://www.box.net/public/h1d6jrehq6 > Narcoticlysm - http://www.box.net/public/9er67t5j81 > Repair - http://www.box.net/public/y21zairlv1 > We Implode - http://www.box.net/public/khyxocvebl > > HOW TO BUY > > Buy the CD at "CD Baby" for $12.99 US here: > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/krispen5 > > Buy the CD in MP3 format for $5.00 US, listen to song samples, or view CD > artwork here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/interstellar > > Cheers, > > Kris > > ************************************************* > Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Guitar > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm > Looper's Delight Playlist - > http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 16:33:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 613DC3BEE7; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sPk4kDfe74mSQPbi+87Wx+I40byZfwyWv5pHMNm2Gj8MiP28R/GduhIflsKIbLtxN1Y0t+OqxbCcNDAbm7rI/tGFSekBWCDwoIT277hCeIVQQd+P5a7h1WLcv15vHUYUHRCibgL3R1b9hRiYQoF1AgSKwQ7ipOjKcvASUl/Y5kc= Message-ID: <64b81a780604250933l5615201crd993e11cf880f3d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:33:19 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: <-5sZOC.A.L9H.l9kTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Well said Ian. I agree one hundred percent. I would postulate that those that always complain about the email list (whether in comparision to a web forum or digests) simply aren't using their mail client to it's fullest potential. Email is THE electronic way to hold conversations. The applications have matured for more than twenty years now. Take the time to 1) find a good email client, 2) learn how to use it, and 3) customize it's filters and sorting to work the way you want it to. Now, this is important so let's say it again: Learn to make the computer do what you want it to. Failing all that, use GMail . It's free and a joy to use. You lose some flexibility, but it's conversation views, filtering, and labelling are straight forward and easy to use. I shudder to think that there are people that actually prefer the web forum format over email when forums are so clumsy, immature (technology wise), feature poor, and inefficient. It makes me wonder what the rest of their computing experience must be like if a web forum is the pinacle of achievment by which other technologies are found lacking. So, in short: love the list, love email, keep it as it is, make your computer work for you, and down with web forums. ;) Todd On 4/24/06, Ian Petersen wrote: > Matthew, > > > I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing > > lists. > > I find quite the reverse is true. Message boards are OK for stuff like > product support where you don't need to follow a conversation - just ask > a question, get an answer and get out. But they rarely have decent > threading, making it impossible to know who is saying what to whom. And, > since most web-boards use some sort of time-based cookie arrangement for > marking posts read or unread, you never can be sure whether you haven't > missed an important message or not. Even worse is the fact that you have > to manually go out and fetch each and every message yourself - perhaps > from half a dozen or more different boards, each with their own > interface and way of working. This is extremely ineffective. It takes me > the same time to skim through a couple of dozen web-board messages as it > does to skim a couple of hundred emails ... > > With mailing lists all my messages come to me automatically without > having to lift a finger. My mail app sorts them into nicely threaded > folders for me to read at my leisure - presented in a consistent and > controllable interface no matter where the messages come from. And I'm > certain I have all the messages a thread for further reference. In fact > I have in my current messagebase every email and news message I've sent > or received since 1996! It's a goldmine of information on a variety of > subjects that would be impossible to assimilate in any other way. > > -- > > Ian Petersen > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 16:36:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4638C3BEF3; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:36:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060424235854.01e91df0@TheNettles.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:36:56 +0000 (UTC) I go both ways, and have been in general, un-impressed by most digital modelers, with the exception of the Vox tonelab , which IMO has very few downsides sound and feel wise. If I had my druthers, I'd rather use stompboxes, because they are simply easier to tweek on the fly, However i would be missing all of those great amp simulations to play with. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Kevin [mailto:kevin@TheNettles.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:11 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) I don't want to seem like a troglodyte or anything but I wonder if people have simply considered a judicious selection of analog pedals and a good cab simulator instead of digital simulations. I have a modest pedal board with pitch-shifter, delay, distortion, wah, reverb and chorus but I never seem to run out of incredible sounds to create from it. I've tried a number of digital boards but the problems I have with them are twofold: First, patches aren't intuitive. I don't know exactly what I'm getting as I do when I'm tweaking knobs. There's a discontinuity that I find very disconcerting. Second, digital simulations seem to break down at those very points that I find most interesting when I'm working with analog effects. A digital howl disappears just when I want to goose it with excessive amounts of gain or with total abuse of my wah or pitch-shifter pedal. A low level multi-harmonic hum fades just when I want to capture it in a loop. Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to abuse analog or even acoustic effects? Or will I finally see the light and buy a laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? Cheaply, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 16:58:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5743E3BEE0; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604250933l5615201crd993e11cf880f3d4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:46:45 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/25/2006 12:55:46 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 68508BC31VC724863-153-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:58:34 +0000 (UTC) >>>>>>>>>I shudder to think that there are people that actually prefer the web forum format over email when forums are so clumsy, immature (technology wise), feature poor, and inefficient. Yes, heaven forbid someone have a different preference than you! I think some of you frequent the wrong message boards. I've never found the many active boards that i frequent to be 'clumsy, feature poor, or inefficient'. As a matter of fact, I'd say all of those apply to email lists, but I'm not silly enough to assume that my preferences should be the gold standard. I mean- let's post some pictures of our setups! Oh wait, can't do that. Let's post some clips of our work to one central web location wher everyone can look at everything in one spot! Oh wait, can't do that. How about an off topic forum where people who have one thing in common (looping) can discuss other aspects of the universe we live in- oh wait, can't do that.....all very very simple things to accomplish in a message board format. People like different things- what get's me fired up is when someone tries to simply declare that their way is the best, and somehow anyone who disagrees just doesn't understand. Also- I think it's rather condescending to assume that because someone prefers a different format that it somehow impies that they don't know how to use their computer/email. "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: 04/25/2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Message Board Please respond to Loopers-Delight Well said Ian. I agree one hundred percent. I would postulate that those that always complain about the email list (whether in comparision to a web forum or digests) simply aren't using their mail client to it's fullest potential. Email is THE electronic way to hold conversations. The applications have matured for more than twenty years now. Take the time to 1) find a good email client, 2) learn how to use it, and 3) customize it's filters and sorting to work the way you want it to. Now, this is important so let's say it again: Learn to make the computer do what you want it to. Failing all that, use GMail . It's free and a joy to use. You lose some flexibility, but it's conversation views, filtering, and labelling are straight forward and easy to use. I shudder to think that there are people that actually prefer the web forum format over email when forums are so clumsy, immature (technology wise), feature poor, and inefficient. It makes me wonder what the rest of their computing experience must be like if a web forum is the pinacle of achievment by which other technologies are found lacking. So, in short: love the list, love email, keep it as it is, make your computer work for you, and down with web forums. ;) Todd On 4/24/06, Ian Petersen wrote: > Matthew, > > > I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing > > lists. > > I find quite the reverse is true. Message boards are OK for stuff like > product support where you don't need to follow a conversation - just ask > a question, get an answer and get out. But they rarely have decent > threading, making it impossible to know who is saying what to whom. And, > since most web-boards use some sort of time-based cookie arrangement for > marking posts read or unread, you never can be sure whether you haven't > missed an important message or not. Even worse is the fact that you have > to manually go out and fetch each and every message yourself - perhaps > from half a dozen or more different boards, each with their own > interface and way of working. This is extremely ineffective. It takes me > the same time to skim through a couple of dozen web-board messages as it > does to skim a couple of hundred emails ... > > With mailing lists all my messages come to me automatically without > having to lift a finger. My mail app sorts them into nicely threaded > folders for me to read at my leisure - presented in a consistent and > controllable interface no matter where the messages come from. And I'm > certain I have all the messages a thread for further reference. In fact > I have in my current messagebase every email and news message I've sent > or received since 1996! It's a goldmine of information on a variety of > subjects that would be impossible to assimilate in any other way. > > -- > > Ian Petersen > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:08:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 223633BEDD; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <158501c6688a$e8f2ce40$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> Subject: Re: semi-OT: usine Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:08:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -chris +interface -kindly -https -solving +mails -registration -queue +yahoo X-Aspam: URLS scored 0.8 yahoo.com servername.com netwin.co.nz X-Aspam: Best match was sample c:\good\1052269076.289_200.ball X-Aspam: Total 0.8 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 541, in=280343, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:08:48 +0000 (UTC) This is intriguing. Has anyone on the list used this? The website needs more info, but I guess I'll read the manual. Is it just a host, or does it come with some VST effects? Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben" > www.sensomusic.com > > A new software looper and VST host. > > I didn't had the time to fully try it but seems cool. > > Ben > > > > Here's the feature list from the manual: > > Usine is a universal audio software especially designed for live or studio > utilisation. Usine is made by musicians and audio engineers to respond to > their specific problems in a lot of domains like live sampling, effect > processing or sound design. Usine is a real musical instrument, flexible > and powerful if you like to transform, resample the sound on stage (not > only push the play button of your sequencer!), improvise and create > unusual effect. > > What can you do with Usine? > > . Build modular sound processing: creates patch with "modules" and connect > them by virtual wires very simply. > > . Analyse input or generated sound, for example pitch, peaks or dynamics > to create adaptive effects, modify any parameter in real time. > > . Use the built-in virtual mixing table to mix the sound produced by > different patchs on each tracks (up to 16). > > . Create huge, creative or stupid audio routing within the mixing table. > For example, routing, a patch output to another patch input, or create a > virtual master effect send and return, etc. > > . Manage 16 external audio sources (8 stereo) and apply different effects > to any of them. > > . Create flexible Surround or 5.1 projects: all audio tracks are 5.1 or > 6.0. The output sound can routed to any of the 16 available outputs, > depending on your sound card. > > . Create inserts patchs on any input / output channels. For example a > master limiter or a master reverb. > > . Complete VST® processing: You can use any VST instruments or effect in > patchs and modify any VST Parameter in real time. Create a front-end > simple interface. > > . Complete MIDI automation: assign any Usine visual object to a midi > controller very simply by using the midi-learn command. Complete > integration of motorized external controllers. > > . Complete MIDI input/output management, for VSTi instruments or external > expanders. > > . Load up to 256 patchs in memory in a "grid" and activate them as you > want in real time. > > . Unlimited scene memorization, recalled manually or according to a > precise smpte code. > > . Synchronize patchs and VST plug-ins with a master tempo. Use unusual and > absurd tempos from 0! To 10000000000! > > . Record your creations directly on the hard disk in real time: separate > tracks, inputs and outputs. > > . All Usine functions are "real-time", and you can resample, modify, input > sound on the fly. > Of course, save patchs, complete workspaces, and configurations, for a > very quick > adaptation to different projects. > . Unlimited Undo/Redo. > . Use any sample rate, depending on your Asio sound card. Usine has a 32 > bit floating > point audio engine. > . If you are a C++ or Delphi programmer you can easily create new users > modules > with the API. > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver > directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez > vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur > http://fr.yahoo.com/set > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:14:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9EBA3BEEE; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,154,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="235685439:sNHT39893874" Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20060425101018.010b9778@mail02.powweb.com> x-files: the truth is out there Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:14:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: References: <64b81a780604250933l5615201crd993e11cf880f3d4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Isn't that exactly the case when people come along and complain that LD isn't setup as a web-based forum? At 2006.04.25 09:46 AM, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: >People like different things- what get's me fired up is when someone tries >to simply declare that their way is the best, and somehow anyone who >disagrees just doesn't understand. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:20:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D40C3BEF3; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060425101018.010b9778@mail02.powweb.com> Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:18:05 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/25/2006 01:19:00 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 685086591VC734845-03-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:20:20 +0000 (UTC) I never complained that LD wasn't a web based forum. I inquired as to whether or not anyone would be interested in such a forum, completely independant of LD. "Sean Echevarria" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: 04/25/2006 01:14 PM Subject: Re: Message Board Please respond to Loopers-Delight Isn't that exactly the case when people come along and complain that LD isn't setup as a web-based forum? At 2006.04.25 09:46 AM, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: >People like different things- what get's me fired up is when someone tries >to simply declare that their way is the best, and somehow anyone who >disagrees just doesn't understand. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:20:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E88E3BEF7; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EMVZmkMmjDmY9R/1SvjGyPP5xNdjIBoQ41ADWJtUwe2BnG7eD253CyvGMS+IdaX11BBm8IgLIXJ4n8wKPR6RriG6gDLIvGUzU16ks1vHaOT8xTDZfjzadF/LU+TH7mKoRjEaTLR0i6ulpA4X72dUcGHnoEqUylq0ICq+1iazrEc= ; Message-ID: <20060425172038.14347.qmail@web37911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:20:38 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: inspiration of conspiracy To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:20:39 +0000 (UTC) been watching a lot of programing that is having an effect on my musical Psyche/vision.films about Woody Guthrie are good.the whole Mike Moore collection gets my blood up,especially Fahrenheit 911!!!the other Woody mr. Woody Harelson and his documentaries-"grass" & "go further" are some of my favorites. i for one am going to do a lot of talking to people on the street about issues and ask a lot of questions that need to be ask in this day and age of war and greed...does anybody else in here feel the way i do? to the future, scary visionary. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:24:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 981E43BEF6; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <158e01c6688d$1ab1dfa0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <64b81a780604250933l5615201crd993e11cf880f3d4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20060425101018.010b9778@mail02.powweb.com> Subject: Re: Message Board Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:24:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 541, in=280362, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <8ELBfB.A.H4C.OtlTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:24:30 +0000 (UTC) I'm terribly behind on this thread, but very interested. I'm all for a web-based / email based system, such as Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, etc...except customized for LD members and without the marketing annoyances of those two systems. It doesn't have to be black and white...you can use the web interface, or just email for those still in the information dark ages. :) You guys know the drill. What's the problem? This doesn't appear to be an issue of satisfying LD member needs, but whether Kim would be willing transition to a more sophisticated system that does everything the current list does, plus offers a web interface, showing threads, members, etc Just my two cents.... Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Echevarria" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Message Board > Isn't that exactly the case when people come along and complain that LD > isn't setup as a web-based forum? > > > At 2006.04.25 09:46 AM, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > >>People like different things- what get's me fired up is when someone tries >>to simply declare that their way is the best, and somehow anyone who >>disagrees just doesn't understand. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:29:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 059823BEF6; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bVSdXpm/QcCS0obszNTdyrWC4Mm+rBgiBzd8iSSIMzpv9HuRbFo55xR0kiT28fk9; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <18257792.1145986191549.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:29:51 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: mungenast@earthlink.net Reply-To: mungenast@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inspiration of conspiracy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 18550e87abb0b622fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da9405e5533475e93bcbc80f9dfb890837a81350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.45 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:29:52 +0000 (UTC) yes -----Original Message----- >From: daniel stevenson >Sent: Apr 25, 2006 1:20 PM >To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: inspiration of conspiracy > > been watching a lot of programing that is having an >effect on my musical Psyche/vision.films about Woody >Guthrie are good.the whole Mike Moore collection gets >my blood up,especially Fahrenheit 911!!!the other >Woody mr. Woody Harelson and his documentaries-"grass" >& "go further" are some of my favorites. > i for one am going to do a lot of talking to people >on the street about issues and ask a lot of questions >that need to be ask in this day and age of war and >greed...does anybody else in here feel the way i do? > to the future, > scary visionary. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:32:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5D863BF04; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <158e01c6688d$1ab1dfa0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:31:46 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/25/2006 01:32:40 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6850828D1VC742199-02-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Just to clarify- I was only asking whether or not anyone here would be interested in a message board based primarily on a community of loopers- not exclusive to looping, as I often find off topic forums great resources as long as they are based in a community with a common interest. I am not asking anything of Kim or the LD mailing list at all. I'm sure loads of people prefer things just the way they are, and I am not trying to rock the boat- simply trying to expand the horizon. "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: 04/25/2006 01:24 PM Subject: Re: Message Board Please respond to Loopers-Delight I'm terribly behind on this thread, but very interested. I'm all for a web-based / email based system, such as Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, etc...except customized for LD members and without the marketing annoyances of those two systems. It doesn't have to be black and white...you can use the web interface, or just email for those still in the information dark ages. :) You guys know the drill. What's the problem? This doesn't appear to be an issue of satisfying LD member needs, but whether Kim would be willing transition to a more sophisticated system that does everything the current list does, plus offers a web interface, showing threads, members, etc Just my two cents.... Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Echevarria" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Message Board > Isn't that exactly the case when people come along and complain that LD > isn't setup as a web-based forum? > > > At 2006.04.25 09:46 AM, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > >>People like different things- what get's me fired up is when someone tries >>to simply declare that their way is the best, and somehow anyone who >>disagrees just doesn't understand. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:34:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2EB43BF08; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <159501c6688e$79dd9f90$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: Subject: Re: Message Board Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:34:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -chris -interface -kindly -https -solving -mails -registration -queue -yahoo X-Aspam: URLS scored 0.8 yahoo.com servername.com netwin.co.nz X-Aspam: Best match was sample c:\good\1052269076.289_200.ball X-Aspam: Total 0.8 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 541, in=280373, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:34:19 +0000 (UTC) > I inquired as to whether or not anyone would be interested in such a > forum, > completely independent of LD. Yes, it's called LoopMusic, which I moderate: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/LoopMusic/ We are a meager group of 147 members, and we are a quiet bunch, very reluctant to speak unless spoken to. It's on the opposite end of the spectrum from LD in terms of communication frequency. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:38:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D79EB3BF12; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <158501c6688a$e8f2ce40$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> <158501c6688a$e8f2ce40$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-175769082 Message-Id: From: bruce tovsky Subject: Re: semi-OT: usine Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:38:13 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1aKiJD.A.8eE.N6lTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:38:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-175769082 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Apr 25, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Is it just a host, or does it come with some VST effects? under "add-ons" they have some effects, and you can always go to kvr and find a ton of windows-only free vst's. i didn't dig in that deeply once i saw that it was windows-only, i'm pretty much a mac guy. however, if you haven't checked out Kore yet, do so - pretty darn cool. cheers bruce bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Reality is whatever refuses to go away when I stop believing in it.." Philip K. Dick --Apple-Mail-11-175769082 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Apr 25, 2006, = at 1:08 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Is it just a host, or does = it come with some VST effects?


under "add-ons" they have = some effects, and you can always go to
kvr and find a ton of = windows-only free vst's. i didn't dig in that deeply
once i = saw that it was windows-only, i'm pretty much a mac = guy.
however, if you haven't checked out Kore yet, do so - = pretty darn cool.
cheers
bruce

bruce tovsky

www.skeletonhome.com


=

"Reality is whatever refuses = to go away when I stop believing in it.."

Philip K. Dick

=

= --Apple-Mail-11-175769082-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:40:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 042703BF1D; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RDrVWovYBPLTy/FoEwvEM425IcOBpL+RDPymjkTeygZpfZPS+I3zu8fHr+JDAy8MacS2KYGWOOxdhEiFaGDa3mZMgl3ItZId0Ok6whlthRwSksA1Iyo3nAgq+eR4KqXc/Dz4h/tz7R4KP17sH0OwTUZMdaKRsYtd+TgO0Y3k6Yc= Message-ID: <64b81a780604251039v43a6979bwb0f9f293d2738cb5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:39:58 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <64b81a780604250933l5615201crd993e11cf880f3d4@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:40:04 +0000 (UTC) On 4/25/06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Also- I think it's rather condescending to assume that because someone > prefers a different format that it somehow impies that they don't know ho= w > to use their computer/email. > You're right. It seems I was bitten by the condescending bug today.=20 (Funny how waking up with a headache can make anyone an asshole.)=20 We're all artists here, we HAVE to do things our own way. Understand, though, that as a software engineer I am by default the tech support center for my friends, family, coworkers, and simple acquaintences on the net. I'm surrounded by people that struggle with their computers simply because they can't be bothered to put a little time/energy into learning how to use this incredibly capable, not to mention expensive, tool. Struggling for an analogy here, it's like buying a mitre saw and not bothering to learn how to set the angle of the blade, then complaining because all of your cabinets came out crooked. I see enough of this sort of thing to justify a bit of cynicism. So, even though I'm writing like a grumpy bastard today, let's not throw flames just yet. :) Namaste, Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:42:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35FB03BEFA; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=lYPlmsah+ExiipvJiW2t44aBWUrg1SFvnDVkIXIn4YrgZo8nZFrwlsIg2l1JkppW; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:48:02 -0700 Subject: Re: inspiration of conspiracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Sheila Olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20060425172038.14347.qmail@web37911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd486107366d666b1b35148434c65877b906667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.115.133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:42:44 +0000 (UTC) I'll add another yes. You might want to check out: Loose Change 2 by Dylan Avery http://www.loosechange911.com/ Or call for a free copy of: Confronting the Evidence Ph: 1.800.630.9012 http://www.reopen911.org/ joe On Tuesday, April 25, 2006, at 10:20 AM, daniel stevenson wrote: > been watching a lot of programing that is having an > effect on my musical Psyche/vision.films about Woody > Guthrie are good.the whole Mike Moore collection gets > my blood up,especially Fahrenheit 911!!!the other > Woody mr. Woody Harelson and his documentaries-"grass" > & "go further" are some of my favorites. > i for one am going to do a lot of talking to people > on the street about issues and ask a lot of questions > that need to be ask in this day and age of war and > greed...does anybody else in here feel the way i do? > to the future, > scary visionary. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:42:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EE733BF21; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,154,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="235709329:sNHT209602234" Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20060425103314.01148d98@mail02.powweb.com> x-files: the truth is out there Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:42:23 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: References: <158e01c6688d$1ab1dfa0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:42:44 +0000 (UTC) misunderstood - thought you were just the next in a line of people that wanted the list to be a forum. FWIW, LD pretty much IS a community of loopers and I've never found LD to be exclusive to looping. I'm pretty sure there have been splinter groups in the past. Wasn't there a loop tribe going at some point? At 2006.04.25 10:31 AM, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: >Just to clarify- > >I was only asking whether or not anyone here would be interested in a >message board based primarily on a community of loopers- not exclusive to >looping, as I often find off topic forums great resources as long as they >are based in a community with a common interest. I am not asking anything >of Kim or the LD mailing list at all. I'm sure loads of people prefer >things just the way they are, and I am not trying to rock the boat- simply >trying to expand the horizon. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:44:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB1433BEFC; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <64b81a780604251039v43a6979bwb0f9f293d2738cb5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:43:37 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/25/2006 01:44:31 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 685080471VC747428-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:44:08 +0000 (UTC) =) All good on this end.........thanks for respecting my POV! "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: 04/25/2006 01:39 PM Subject: Re: Message Board Please respond to Loopers-Delight On 4/25/06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Also- I think it's rather condescending to assume that because someone > prefers a different format that it somehow impies that they don't know how > to use their computer/email. > You're right. It seems I was bitten by the condescending bug today. (Funny how waking up with a headache can make anyone an asshole.) We're all artists here, we HAVE to do things our own way. Understand, though, that as a software engineer I am by default the tech support center for my friends, family, coworkers, and simple acquaintences on the net. I'm surrounded by people that struggle with their computers simply because they can't be bothered to put a little time/energy into learning how to use this incredibly capable, not to mention expensive, tool. Struggling for an analogy here, it's like buying a mitre saw and not bothering to learn how to set the angle of the blade, then complaining because all of your cabinets came out crooked. I see enough of this sort of thing to justify a bit of cynicism. So, even though I'm writing like a grumpy bastard today, let's not throw flames just yet. :) Namaste, Todd --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 17:47:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E38923BEFC; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <15b401c66890$517acee0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <158e01c6688d$1ab1dfa0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20060425103314.01148d98@mail02.powweb.com> Subject: Re: Message Board Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:47:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 543, in=284177, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:47:31 +0000 (UTC) > Wasn't there a loop tribe going at some point? Still is: http://livelooping.tribe.net/ K- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 18:52:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0C143BEF4; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=d/y5NVJZioIV9wfKlPZW79zIjXP4r7j8PN+dkpQ6hs3Hqwd0d3qXpR/WacoZkhi2dMA32HdIetcBB0wsLgXpTHV/rCg/z1dVhDY4EUNK175ifVc8aSyPCx75uUmLQvAy1UypxiNPhLNAEcbD4cb5VXqGeXd1TcPViHzMIlgjx1A= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:52:34 -0700 From: Joey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <64b81a780604250933l5615201crd993e11cf880f3d4@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3rMOqB.A.e6.0_mTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:52:36 +0000 (UTC) On 4/25/06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > I think some of you frequent the wrong message boards. I've never found t= he > many active boards that i frequent to be 'clumsy, feature poor, or > inefficient'. One thing I hate about message boards is if you find a very interesting message its a bit of a pain to archive it. Unless you have a save feature on the board you have to cut and paste it into a text editor and save it. Mail lists give you the advantage of archiving interesting posts at the touch of a button or drag into an archive folder. > I mean- let's post some pictures of our setups! Oh wait, > can't do that. Let's post some clips of our work to one central web > location wher everyone can look at everything in one spot! Oh wait, can't > do that. Sure you can - http://www.loopersdelight.com/files/ or just get yourself a website - where have you been? :) How about an off topic forum where people who have one thing in > common (looping) can discuss other aspects of the universe we live in- oh > wait, can't do that..... I think that's what we are doing right now :) The only thing wrong in my opinion with the email list format is people who don't know how to edit their replies and include 20 threads or THE ENTIRE DIGEST in their post!!! :) Joey From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 18:58:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA16E3BEF9; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [10.141.30.37] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:56:55 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J3a05.6df4S.3452M" Message-Id: <20060425.115740.731.588467@webmail33.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:1:39172882 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5PHWteEavDFVLeURap3LEpt5G/Ju/lSoTg== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.173|webmail33.nyc.untd.com|webmail33.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:58:05 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J3a05.6df4S.3452M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to abuse analog or = even acoustic effects? Or will I finally see the light and buy a = laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? Cheaply, Kevin Hi Kevin, You are not alone, throughout the 80's and 90's I tried the same. I = currently own a few digital pedals and have tried to ween myself from an= alog many times but I always return. I recently tried with the digitec= h GNX3 and I really like it but I too noticed the same issues of sounds = trailing off irradically, chords crapping out when they should feedback.= I have tweeked the GNX and run it stereo through two Ampeg Jets. I ca= n get some decent feedback with this setup but I still love analog.... = Weg ----__JWM__J3a05.6df4S.3452M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to abuse anal= og or
even acoustic effects?  Or will I finally see the light a= nd buy a
laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm?

Cheaply,Kevin

Hi Kevin,

   You are not alone, throughout the 80's and 90's I tried = the same.  I currently own a few digital pedals and have tried to w= een myself from analog many times but I always return.   = I recently tried with the digitech GNX3 and I really like it but I too n= oticed the same issues of sounds trailing off irradically, chords crappi= ng out when they should feedback.  I have tweeked the GNX and run i= t stereo through two Ampeg Jets.  I can get some decent feedback wi= th this setup but I still love analog....

 

Weg

----__JWM__J3a05.6df4S.3452M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 19:01:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 597933BF02; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:00:30 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/25/2006 03:01:24 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6850AE591VC776718-02-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Man, that message might be the best arguement for a board- if I were to respond to each point individually, it just becomes a hideous mess of "quotes" and "responses". It's nice on a message board when each quote is in a shaded little box with different colored text, thus making it easy to skim down a thread & determine who said what. But a couple quick rebuttals: 1) Every thread on every message board has a web address. When I want to archive a specific thread, I simply save the web address in a Notepad. 2) Your response about where to keep files is a web page? LOL- isn't that what you are arguing against? How is that a virtue of a mailing list? 3) I don't conside this off-topic. I'm saying, maybe there's a bunch of Red Sox fans on the list. Or Yankees, or Coffee, or whatever- LD stays pretty on point almost all of the time, which is awesome, because I don't need a bunch of emails from Yankee fans mucking up my inbox- but on a board, you can disucc these things with your fellow loopers, and uninterested parties can skip over them. Again, theres no right or wrong here, just preference....... "Joey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: 04/25/2006 02:52 PM Subject: Re: Message Board Please respond to Loopers-Delight On 4/25/06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > I think some of you frequent the wrong message boards. I've never found the > many active boards that i frequent to be 'clumsy, feature poor, or > inefficient'. One thing I hate about message boards is if you find a very interesting message its a bit of a pain to archive it. Unless you have a save feature on the board you have to cut and paste it into a text editor and save it. Mail lists give you the advantage of archiving interesting posts at the touch of a button or drag into an archive folder. > I mean- let's post some pictures of our setups! Oh wait, > can't do that. Let's post some clips of our work to one central web > location wher everyone can look at everything in one spot! Oh wait, can't > do that. Sure you can - http://www.loopersdelight.com/files/ or just get yourself a website - where have you been? :) How about an off topic forum where people who have one thing in > common (looping) can discuss other aspects of the universe we live in- oh > wait, can't do that..... I think that's what we are doing right now :) The only thing wrong in my opinion with the email list format is people who don't know how to edit their replies and include 20 threads or THE ENTIRE DIGEST in their post!!! :) Joey --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 19:03:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B524E3BF05; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=LVMgNFvHJj4+evnuZlII/uJXbLhf5WbuzsbD2tW86i5Q8mLHkGFeEaVbmV407Hb4; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <22282584.1145991822956.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:03:42 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48524ce83038d45ec47d73516077d5dd201a036a86675380a6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.46 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:03:43 +0000 (UTC) >Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to abuse analog > >Kevin > ummm...yeah....me do! s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 19:30:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0C733BEF4; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:30:08 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <002e01c6689e$aa062a10$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20060424220850.71964.qmail@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 thread-index: AcZn66uQ+oK9DZpaQ4+xMa8+wr1+KQAsqNWQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:30:14 +0000 (UTC) The vast majority of the German healthcare system is some kind of hidden ultra-left-wing method of income redistribution. Therefore, I hate it. It adds to the fact that Germany has become a place that is only nice of you actively exploit the system. Why there are still highly-qualified people residing in Germany is beyond me. Rainer > All i can tell u is that i love the German health care > system,nearly everyone residing in Germany is guaranteed From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 19:45:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8EB33BEF1; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=akQlILE+HtOSXtIL7iW0JlxrTN3mNizrTK2HwSMgxaIBMlCf8JgL8x6cep1oKrdVeFtEomCXfptZHe/8dRq9julB652nW9EVdcMCdl1PyhwstX7pwtWBa2lBCQM0eQFFwNtJto3hju6YN3OhyRYkxE7bbO+WlCwuJQZHtBocHLo= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:45:03 -0700 From: Joey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:45:04 +0000 (UTC) On 4/25/06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Man, that message might be the best arguement for a board- if I were to > respond to each point individually, it just becomes a hideous mess of > "quotes" and "responses". > > It's nice on a message board when each quote is in a shaded little box wi= th > different colored text, thus making it easy to skim down a thread & > determine who said what. But a couple quick rebuttals: > Yeah I dig that about message boards myself. Although that only works if the people using the quote option know what they are doing. I have had instances where people mess up the quote tag and their post is in a quote box instead of the quote. My e-mail client colors your quoted text as purple and my text is black so it is still pretty easy to figure out who said what. > 1) Every thread on every message board has a web address. When I want to > archive a specific thread, I simply save the web address in a Notepad. > The only problem with that is you end up with a long web address with no real descriptor of the topic unless you take the time to actually format your paste with a header etc... Too much trouble for me when I have to do this on the message boards I frequent. Although there is a neat little trick on Mac OS that allows you to save selected text as text clippings (small un-editable text files ) onto your desktop. Right now in my Gmail I can archive (by pressing one button) this whole thread and 10 years from now run a search on "message board" in my Loopers Delight label and this thread will pop up. I only wish gmail was around when I first joined the list many years ago so I could have all the posts I found informative. But I find the LD archives pretty good and easy to navigate. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 19:49:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 043F33BEE8; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: Subject: Re: Message Board Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:49:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 543, in=284338, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Matthew, your list below is on the money. We shouldn't have to justify the value of a web-based forum. That's been done already. The question is whether the group, and more importantly the moderator/creator sees this same value. Why don't we setup a poll of some sort? Let the masses decide. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Message Board > Man, that message might be the best arguement for a board- if I were to > respond to each point individually, it just becomes a hideous mess of > "quotes" and "responses". > > It's nice on a message board when each quote is in a shaded little box > with > different colored text, thus making it easy to skim down a thread & > determine who said what. But a couple quick rebuttals: > > 1) Every thread on every message board has a web address. When I want to > archive a specific thread, I simply save the web address in a Notepad. > > 2) Your response about where to keep files is a web page? LOL- isn't that > what you are arguing against? How is that a virtue of a mailing list? > > 3) I don't conside this off-topic. I'm saying, maybe there's a bunch of > Red > Sox fans on the list. Or Yankees, or Coffee, or whatever- LD stays pretty > on point almost all of the time, which is awesome, because I don't need a > bunch of emails from Yankee fans mucking up my inbox- but on a board, you > can disucc these things with your fellow loopers, and uninterested parties > can skip over them. > > Again, theres no right or wrong here, just preference....... > > > > > > > > > "Joey" To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > cc: > 04/25/2006 02:52 PM Subject: Re: Message Board > Please respond to > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > On 4/25/06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > >> I think some of you frequent the wrong message boards. I've never found > the >> many active boards that i frequent to be 'clumsy, feature poor, or >> inefficient'. > > One thing I hate about message boards is if you find a very > interesting message its a bit of a pain to archive it. Unless you have > a save feature on the board you have to cut and paste it into a text > editor and save it. Mail lists give you the advantage of archiving > interesting posts at the touch of a button or drag into an archive > folder. > > >> I mean- let's post some pictures of our setups! Oh wait, >> can't do that. Let's post some clips of our work to one central web >> location wher everyone can look at everything in one spot! Oh wait, can't >> do that. > > Sure you can - http://www.loopersdelight.com/files/ > > or just get yourself a website - where have you been? :) > > How about an off topic forum where people who have one thing in >> common (looping) can discuss other aspects of the universe we live in- oh >> wait, can't do that..... > > I think that's what we are doing right now :) > > The only thing wrong in my opinion with the email list format is > people who don't know how to edit their replies and include 20 threads > or THE ENTIRE DIGEST in their post!!! :) > > Joey > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the > use > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 20:28:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DEDA3BEF7; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:30:09 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board X-Mailer: Virtual Access Open Source http://www.virtual-access.org/ Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Ian Petersen In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Matthew, > I think some of you frequent the wrong message boards. I've yet to see a web-board match the functionality of something like the classic Compuserve forums (not the abominations they now run), or CIX, or Delphi or some of the old pre-web BBSs etc. They had all the features you could dream of and yes, I would certainly prefer something like that to a mailing list. But sadly there are no web forums that come any way close to a BBS ca. 1988, let alone Compuserve ca. 1998. There are lot's of things that can't be done on a mailing list, but the one thing it does do - straightforward conversation - it does better that anything else currently available. IMHO of course! > How about an off topic forum where people who have one thing in > common (looping) can discuss other aspects of the universe we live in- oh > wait, can't do that Umm ... isn't that what we're doing right now? -- Ian Petersen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 20:50:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DE523BEEC; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> From: "David O'Heare" To: References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Polling the masses, was Re: Message Board Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:50:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-magma-MailScanner-Information: Magma Mailscanner Service X-magma-MailScanner: Clean X-Spam-Status: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.399, required 9, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_00) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:50:37 +0000 (UTC) I personally prefer the email system. It's nice to have the information come to me, rather than me having to go and get it someplace. If I ask a question, I don't have to go and check the message board every two minutes to see if the answer is there (not OCD, just impatient :-) As well, I find it far simpler to search my mail archives for a specific item, instead of having to root through a million Favorites trying to remember which one held that weird bit on rebuilding Permissions in OS X. Dave O'H oheare@magma.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Message Board > Matthew, your list below is on the money. We shouldn't have to justify the > value of a web-based forum. That's been done already. The question is > whether the group, and more importantly the moderator/creator sees this > same value. > > Why don't we setup a poll of some sort? Let the masses decide. > > Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 20:55:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 092003BEEE; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CijIlJl+kk1pas+vP82x/ff1xswCIJwCtTcd2DjJz3SSDcLqRtwYwgEr9Hja+qbwc5oVEy2cJtYNvA3LZc7RT9p8mStRlkLtTIkVeZe2QA6xbGLwMaw9fYtbjuWpJhgxIQHNGDuUOu1vh9brtSQ/xWE9PYQ/jLF3IaCKg692/Lc= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:55:02 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Who's going to pay for the bandwidth and take the time to set up and administer this service? TravisH On 4/25/06, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Matthew, your list below is on the money. We shouldn't have to justify th= e > value of a web-based forum. That's been done already. The question is > whether the group, and more importantly the moderator/creator sees this s= ame > value. > > Why don't we setup a poll of some sort? Let the masses decide. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: Message Board > > > > Man, that message might be the best arguement for a board- if I were to > > respond to each point individually, it just becomes a hideous mess of > > "quotes" and "responses". > > > > It's nice on a message board when each quote is in a shaded little box > > with > > different colored text, thus making it easy to skim down a thread & > > determine who said what. But a couple quick rebuttals: > > > > 1) Every thread on every message board has a web address. When I want t= o > > archive a specific thread, I simply save the web address in a Notepad. > > > > 2) Your response about where to keep files is a web page? LOL- isn't th= at > > what you are arguing against? How is that a virtue of a mailing list? > > > > 3) I don't conside this off-topic. I'm saying, maybe there's a bunch of > > Red > > Sox fans on the list. Or Yankees, or Coffee, or whatever- LD stays pret= ty > > on point almost all of the time, which is awesome, because I don't need= a > > bunch of emails from Yankee fans mucking up my inbox- but on a board, y= ou > > can disucc these things with your fellow loopers, and uninterested part= ies > > can skip over them. > > > > Again, theres no right or wrong here, just preference....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joey" To: > > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > cc: > > 04/25/2006 02:52 PM Subject: Re: Message Boa= rd > > Please respond to > > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/25/06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote= : > > > >> I think some of you frequent the wrong message boards. I've never foun= d > > the > >> many active boards that i frequent to be 'clumsy, feature poor, or > >> inefficient'. > > > > One thing I hate about message boards is if you find a very > > interesting message its a bit of a pain to archive it. Unless you have > > a save feature on the board you have to cut and paste it into a text > > editor and save it. Mail lists give you the advantage of archiving > > interesting posts at the touch of a button or drag into an archive > > folder. > > > > > >> I mean- let's post some pictures of our setups! Oh wait, > >> can't do that. Let's post some clips of our work to one central web > >> location wher everyone can look at everything in one spot! Oh wait, ca= n't > >> do that. > > > > Sure you can - http://www.loopersdelight.com/files/ > > > > or just get yourself a website - where have you been? :) > > > > How about an off topic forum where people who have one thing in > >> common (looping) can discuss other aspects of the universe we live in-= oh > >> wait, can't do that..... > > > > I think that's what we are doing right now :) > > > > The only thing wrong in my opinion with the email list format is > > people who don't know how to edit their replies and include 20 threads > > or THE ENTIRE DIGEST in their post!!! :) > > > > Joey > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the > > use > > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt f= rom > > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified th= at > > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 21:10:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 754E83BED9; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Message Board: no thanks Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:10:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749) X-Server-Quench: f2cbc5b8-d49f-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:10:41 +0000 (UTC) I travel too much to read boards. Every single board-based list I have dropped out of (except the resistance-is-futile-myspace-borg). I like being able to download all mail in a batch whenever wifi is accessible. Then, I read it at my leisure. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 21:28:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BDD53BEEA; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:31:02 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Polling the masses, was Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> Message-ID: References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:28:51 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, David O'Heare wrote: > I personally prefer the email system. Same. Steve B http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 21:42:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F0F13BED9; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=daQzJywdEfaPMqTLsJpRh0JwJ9qTtq5221vZcOH6g9o+DGUUI6nEUBUzJBLDaY0b7LcN64PJJETOZ2opLq2y1TbeMbGy9fAGEnp63PrbjVLEiaTl21d114ts85xmfNs1QpHYC61X7x7fU5A3UheaQ+Ss/7gNk3/sg0Z1E9UUWvA= ; Message-ID: <20060425214246.82623.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060425.115740.731.588467@webmail33.nyc.untd.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:42:48 +0000 (UTC) I am with u as well playing with preprogrammed effects for me lately feels a bit like playing written music it has to be all well mapped but even then there is always the next tweak level to adjust... ive also built a pedal board after realising my frequent preferences,and i am still trying to keep it analog, compact but with maximum flexibility and still looking for that magical single stomp box(no tween) that i can switch from overdrive to heavy distortion... Luis --- Weg wrote: > Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to > abuse analog or > even acoustic effects? Or will I finally see the > light and buy a > laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? > > Cheaply, > Kevin > > Hi Kevin, > You are not alone, throughout the 80's and 90's I > tried the same. I currently own a few digital > pedals and have tried to ween myself from analog > many times but I always return. I recently tried > with the digitech GNX3 and I really like it but I > too noticed the same issues of sounds trailing off > irradically, chords crapping out when they should > feedback. I have tweeked the GNX and run it stereo > through two Ampeg Jets. I can get some decent > feedback with this setup but I still love analog.... > > Weg > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 21:47:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F34B63BEEE; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00f801c668b1$d2636ff0$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20060425.115740.731.588467@webmail33.nyc.untd.com> Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (and now GuitarPlayer) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:45:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:47:19 +0000 (UTC) >Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) >Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to abuse analog or >even acoustic effects? Or will I finally see the light and buy a >laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? You are not alone. Cheap, trashy, noisy, whatever. as long as it makes interesting noise. In one of the recent Guitar Player issues the editor mentioned that he's got a MySpace site and if you are a guitarist you should add him as a friend. He's got a group that listens to all the friends stuff and will feature people they like in future issues of GP. http://www.myspace.com/michaelmolenda I'm not sure if they are going for off the wall stuff, but hell, it's worth an 'add'. Tony. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 22:24:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90D773BEE8; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gJwI7n8XMePCKMUbS+N19WLj3XowxYbWb55NcMtK1tAcTqEd9XpkRtSEbTSHE2RTA5Y5Jvwr4Hl2LTY1ys8ur3NherUdAEMuE/H4Bc+Jy6mgVyHz8GoTja4S9P9PVvpT0y1ilxrfjsX6fw4bSSoHtX7UKMk4yp79thmbHEx+VKU= ; Message-ID: <20060425222433.23996.qmail@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:24:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) To: billwalker@baymoon.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:24:34 +0000 (UTC) true bill,although ive found this to be more effective for recording,live one amp sound and stomp boxes keep me busy enough really! Luis --- William Walker wrote: > I go both ways, and have been in general, > un-impressed by most digital > modelers, with the exception of the Vox tonelab , > which IMO has very few > downsides sound and feel wise. If I had my druthers, > I'd rather use > stompboxes, because they are simply easier to tweek > on the fly, However i > would be missing all of those great amp simulations > to play with. > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin [mailto:kevin@TheNettles.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:11 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore > Verbzilla) > > > I don't want to seem like a troglodyte or anything > but I wonder if > people have simply considered a judicious selection > of analog pedals > and a good cab simulator instead of digital > simulations. I have a > modest pedal board with pitch-shifter, delay, > distortion, wah, reverb > and chorus but I never seem to run out of incredible > sounds to create > from it. I've tried a number of digital boards but > the problems I > have with them are twofold: > > First, patches aren't intuitive. I don't know > exactly what I'm > getting as I do when I'm tweaking knobs. There's a > discontinuity > that I find very disconcerting. > > Second, digital simulations seem to break down at > those very points > that I find most interesting when I'm working with > analog effects. A > digital howl disappears just when I want to goose it > with excessive > amounts of gain or with total abuse of my wah or > pitch-shifter > pedal. A low level multi-harmonic hum fades just > when I want to > capture it in a loop. > > Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to > abuse analog or > even acoustic effects? Or will I finally see the > light and buy a > laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? > > Cheaply, > Kevin > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 22:27:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E548D3BEE2; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=i8CDL2lhb7FyycqTvICIGGbY86x1z+Y+5MZ1rMRfne2ML07Q7wknYG+vxFU2KZBK; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <9258868.1146004068920.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:27:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (and now GuitarPlayer) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48037f508e1ed90d9e32aaa97000b28f6c29ca3e42375bd564350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.41 Resent-Message-ID: <34O67D.A.pyC.lJqTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:27:49 +0000 (UTC) i met mike molenda when i got invited to review those under $500 guitars thats in the latest edition of GuitarPlayer. he is a very cool guy-totally guitar friendly-which i guess ya have to be if yer the editor in chief... i mentioned loopersdelught while we were talking-dont know if it took er not, but i'm pretty sure he is aware of we. stan -----Original Message----- >From: Tony K >Sent: Apr 25, 2006 2:45 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (and now GuitarPlayer) > >>Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) > >>Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to abuse analog or >>even acoustic effects? Or will I finally see the light and buy a >>laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? > >You are not alone. Cheap, trashy, noisy, whatever. as long as it makes >interesting noise. > >In one of the recent Guitar Player issues the editor mentioned that he's got >a MySpace site and if you are a guitarist you should add him as a friend. >He's got a group that listens to all the friends stuff and will feature >people they like in future issues of GP. > >http://www.myspace.com/michaelmolenda > >I'm not sure if they are going for off the wall stuff, but hell, it's worth >an 'add'. > >Tony. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 22:34:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C42C33BEF8; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EEA8/JQ7IYYm/C5En/UONUOBnj/XJ0Px6/PpgiyY+LvxxeSq8ed5i4Hl3p04BcgTNjhlWeCDRU7hOijHGDjQEt7mX0NbNxzJyrXh5v211HsyihKrKPG/UuzYu3KGpNMuxbQ49LhWFbEjWapmrJ2v1M36A/2F6593mREYMgYWhWw= ; Message-ID: <20060425223445.10954.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:34:45 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060425214246.82623.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:34:47 +0000 (UTC) > --- Weg wrote: I recently tried > > with the digitech GNX3 and I really like it but I > > too noticed the same issues of sounds trailing off > > irradically, chords crapping out when they should > > feedback. Sounds to me like you've got the noise cancelling on or set up wrong for your system. Then again, when push came to shove I went for a hybred digital/analog processor. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 22:37:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8A8D3BEF1; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <444EA4A8.8020804@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:37:28 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Ian Petersen wrote: >>I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing >>lists. > > > I find quite the reverse is true. I second all of it, message boards are only more convenient if you read your mail with a browser, which would be a pain in the... The Max list now is both. Though part of the post would fit better into a chat room than on a list or a board. This was not the case when it was just a list. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 22:50:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5409A3BEE9; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ad6cFozUiKLwE91K86utxfDh4bwJR67ROOwSiYPc0Gbys4My36Z4bTfc36xJbX8C24hoRfm5b3KgjGEDQtDSFsytWWIZzlLgyHO09BMDCsZPn+B6Chxej+X97HQhdPW5WPzPO9BwCxny/w4gt8CaMDRQ+N3gjIkpIDOYJ2ywjeQ= ; Message-ID: <20060425225028.61667.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: RE: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060425222433.23996.qmail@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:50:30 +0000 (UTC) I can't wait until we're all, "Does anyone like using their actual ears instead of going direct into the brain?" --- "L.A. Angulo" wrote: > true bill,although ive found this to be more > effective > for recording,live one amp sound and stomp boxes > keep > me busy enough really! > Luis > > > --- William Walker wrote: > > > I go both ways, and have been in general, > > un-impressed by most digital > > modelers, with the exception of the Vox tonelab , > > which IMO has very few > > downsides sound and feel wise. If I had my > druthers, > > I'd rather use > > stompboxes, because they are simply easier to > tweek > > on the fly, However i > > would be missing all of those great amp > simulations > > to play with. > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin [mailto:kevin@TheNettles.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:11 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore > > Verbzilla) > > > > > > I don't want to seem like a troglodyte or anything > > but I wonder if > > people have simply considered a judicious > selection > > of analog pedals > > and a good cab simulator instead of digital > > simulations. I have a > > modest pedal board with pitch-shifter, delay, > > distortion, wah, reverb > > and chorus but I never seem to run out of > incredible > > sounds to create > > from it. I've tried a number of digital boards > but > > the problems I > > have with them are twofold: > > > > First, patches aren't intuitive. I don't know > > exactly what I'm > > getting as I do when I'm tweaking knobs. There's > a > > discontinuity > > that I find very disconcerting. > > > > Second, digital simulations seem to break down at > > those very points > > that I find most interesting when I'm working with > > analog effects. A > > digital howl disappears just when I want to goose > it > > with excessive > > amounts of gain or with total abuse of my wah or > > pitch-shifter > > pedal. A low level multi-harmonic hum fades just > > when I want to > > capture it in a loop. > > > > Am I alone here or are their other folks who like > to > > abuse analog or > > even acoustic effects? Or will I finally see the > > light and buy a > > laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? > > > > Cheaply, > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 23:05:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF1A13BEE0; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <444EAB33.8010008@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:05:23 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: off topic: airplane baggage References: <000701c6661f$3a7b5b60$0101a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Zoe Keating wrote: > jetblue: $100 (always the same when they charge me. once they didn't) > alaska: $50 (also always the same) > virgin atlantic to the UK: $140 > virgin from the UK: 180 pounds (ouch!) > british airways to the UK: $140 > british airways from the UK: 90 pounds > united: $125 Air France on a flight from Paris to Istanbul, we were three persons we had overweight less than a forth person would heve been allowed and they charged almost a complete ticket. Definitely not reasonable... Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 23:31:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBE623BEF7; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZOOqMALaYm3rgCprSqe0E6AMR/O7eScPaE9pcxbyH/xR4kkI3xOeeVfQ+EGjtbglcD2WVx25lAH8ktj5JEReXrpuGdasp89ach3s/bf+HrAYwiYX/U1fte7Gvs4KA48gAbg3d/R+ia3Qvw38lfT7IrQtlTGB7uvMpc7Q9INFrK0= ; Message-ID: <20060425233111.62965.qmail@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:31:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 Tonecore Verbzilla) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060425225028.61667.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:31:12 +0000 (UTC) yes but we are all tone deaf u see;-) Luis --- mark sottilaro wrote: > I can't wait until we're all, "Does anyone like > using > their actual ears instead of going direct into the > brain?" > > --- "L.A. Angulo" wrote: > > > true bill,although ive found this to be more > > effective > > for recording,live one amp sound and stomp boxes > > keep > > me busy enough really! > > Luis > > > > > > --- William Walker wrote: > > > > > I go both ways, and have been in general, > > > un-impressed by most digital > > > modelers, with the exception of the Vox tonelab > , > > > which IMO has very few > > > downsides sound and feel wise. If I had my > > druthers, > > > I'd rather use > > > stompboxes, because they are simply easier to > > tweek > > > on the fly, However i > > > would be missing all of those great amp > > simulations > > > to play with. > > > Bill > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin [mailto:kevin@TheNettles.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:11 AM > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: Digital vs. Analog (Was: Line 6 > Tonecore > > > Verbzilla) > > > > > > > > > I don't want to seem like a troglodyte or > anything > > > but I wonder if > > > people have simply considered a judicious > > selection > > > of analog pedals > > > and a good cab simulator instead of digital > > > simulations. I have a > > > modest pedal board with pitch-shifter, delay, > > > distortion, wah, reverb > > > and chorus but I never seem to run out of > > incredible > > > sounds to create > > > from it. I've tried a number of digital boards > > but > > > the problems I > > > have with them are twofold: > > > > > > First, patches aren't intuitive. I don't know > > > exactly what I'm > > > getting as I do when I'm tweaking knobs. > There's > > a > > > discontinuity > > > that I find very disconcerting. > > > > > > Second, digital simulations seem to break down > at > > > those very points > > > that I find most interesting when I'm working > with > > > analog effects. A > > > digital howl disappears just when I want to > goose > > it > > > with excessive > > > amounts of gain or with total abuse of my wah or > > > > pitch-shifter > > > pedal. A low level multi-harmonic hum fades > just > > > when I want to > > > capture it in a loop. > > > > > > Am I alone here or are their other folks who > like > > to > > > abuse analog or > > > even acoustic effects? Or will I finally see > the > > > light and buy a > > > laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? > > > > > > Cheaply, > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 25 23:50:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDCD93BECC; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:52:56 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: electric bird noise track on myspace In-Reply-To: <8C83687FFB39319-16F8-523@FWM-R10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8C83687FFB39319-16F8-523@FWM-R10.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:50:40 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, enat21213@aol.com wrote: > http://myspace.com/nomorestarsrecords > > thoughts? > > brian Fun to listen to. Bouncy. best, Steve B http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 01:41:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 625B23BEDB; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <16ce01c668d2$8c2b59f0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Boise Experimental Music Festival in Boise's Thrive Magazine Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:41:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_16CB_01C668A0.40D05910" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 541, in=280967, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:41:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_16CB_01C668A0.40D05910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Boise Experimental Music Festival just showed up in Boise's = entertainment magazine, "Thrive", with quotes and reflections from me = and Rick Walker. =20 Check it out: = http://www.thriveweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20060425/THRIVE0= 2/604250313 Kris ************************************************* Krispen Hartung=20 www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm Looper's Delight Playlist - = http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u ------=_NextPart_000_16CB_01C668A0.40D05910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Boise Experimental Music=20 Festival just showed up in Boise's entertainment magazine, = "Thrive", with quotes and reflections from me and = Rick=20 Walker. 
 
Check it out: http://www.thriveweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/2006042= 5/THRIVE02/604250313
 
Kris
 
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Krispen = Hartung=20
www.krispenhartung.com / = www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
info@krispenhartung.com = /=20 1.208.724.5603
Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm
Looper's Delight Playlist - http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_16CB_01C668A0.40D05910-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 01:44:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AE793BEE6; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <16ce01c668d2$8c2b59f0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <16ce01c668d2$8c2b59f0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-204920564 Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival in Boise's Thrive Magazine Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:44:05 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749) X-Server-Quench: 27270d4e-d4c6-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:44:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-204920564 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed GREAT story! On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > The Boise Experimental Music Festival just showed up in Boise's > entertainment magazine, "Thrive", with quotes and reflections from > me and Rick Walker. > > Check it out: http://www.thriveweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? > AID=/20060425/THRIVE02/604250313 > > Kris > > ************************************************* > Krispen Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm > Looper's Delight Playlist - http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers- > delight.m3u > > > --Apple-Mail-1-204920564 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 GREAT = story!

On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Krispen Hartung = wrote:

The = Boise Experimental Music FestivalThrive
=A0
Check it out: =A0


= --Apple-Mail-1-204920564-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 02:00:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC9D83BEE8; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <174901c668d5$1f0100c0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <16ce01c668d2$8c2b59f0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival in Boise's Thrive Magazine Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:59:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1746_01C668A2.D3B3E290" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-SpamDetect: *: 1.200000 Suspicious tags-to-text ratio=1.2 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 543, in=284764, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:00:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1746_01C668A2.D3B3E290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zoe, you'll be happy to know that one of the experimental groups, = "Breccia," includes a cellist, who will be playing at the pre-festival = art show opening on Thursday, and the Saturday of the festival. I met = her today. They will be performing two pieces on Thursday, "Ornamentik" = and "Stones", and a piece on Saturday called "Crossings" by Alvin = Lucier. Below is her description of the first two: "Ornamentik" consists of a number of sustaining instruments (depending = on who can make it that night, we'd have: clarinet, melodica, cello, = violin, organ, and flute) playing a G in unison. Then, looking at the = score (a dozen or so abstract design images), each musician ornaments = the G whenever s/he feels it appropriate--the idea is to interpret the = images into sound. =20 "Stones" is just that--a group of musicians "playing" stones by striking = them together to make sounds. We've been batting around the idea of = placing the stones on a miked table or board so as to amplify the sound, = but that hasn't happened yet. It's very abstract, but given the right = attitude (on the part of both performers and listeners) can be = transcendently beautiful." Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Zoe Keating=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival in Boise's Thrive = Magazine GREAT story! On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: The Boise Experimental Music Festival just showed up in Boise's = entertainment magazine, "Thrive", with quotes and reflections from me = and Rick Walker.=20 Check it out: = http://www.thriveweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20060425/THRIVE0= 2/604250313 Kris ************************************************* Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm Looper's Delight Playlist - = http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u ------=_NextPart_000_1746_01C668A2.D3B3E290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Zoe, you'll be happy to know that one = of the=20 experimental groups, "Breccia," includes a cellist, who will = be=20 playing at the pre-festival art show opening on Thursday, and the = Saturday of=20 the festival. I met her today. They will be performing two pieces on = Thursday,=20 "Ornamentik" and "Stones", and a piece on Saturday called "Crossings" by = Alvin=20 Lucier. Below is her description of the first two:
 
"Ornamentik" consists of a number of = sustaining=20 instruments (depending on who can make it that night, we'd have: = clarinet,=20 melodica, cello, violin, organ, and flute) playing a G in unison.  = Then,=20 looking at the score (a dozen or so abstract design images), each = musician=20 ornaments the G whenever s/he feels it appropriate--the idea is to = interpret the=20 images into sound. 

"Stones" is just that--a group of = musicians=20 "playing" stones by striking them together to make sounds.  We've = been=20 batting around the idea of placing the stones on a miked table or board = so as to=20 amplify the sound, but that hasn't happened yet.  It's very = abstract, but=20 given the right attitude (on the part of both performers and listeners) = can be=20 transcendently beautiful."
 
Kris
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Zoe=20 Keating
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 = 7:44=20 PM
Subject: Re: Boise Experimental = Music=20 Festival in Boise's Thrive Magazine

GREAT story!

On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:
The = Boise=20 Experimental Music Festival just showed up = in Boise's=20 entertainment magazine, "Thrive", with=20 quotes and reflections from me and Rick=20 Walker. 
 
Check it out: = http://www.thriveweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20060= 425/THRIVE02/604250313
 
Kris
 
*************************************************Krispen=20 Hartung
www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 = Discography - = http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm<= BR>Looper's Delight = Playlist -=20 http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u
 
 

------=_NextPart_000_1746_01C668A2.D3B3E290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 07:47:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE30F3BED0; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AuFApHsONj8aTu30uFhsQV9wn1NXEXMlgVHohopNzvf42KFSYMwK5bcp+/bNqWchDEg+oktB/ft/58zoDBoaRrfADmwQrvFyPNNVPEtoKCSwptb36pVzTGMkVfDJ2FKTs29J/7wRXLQQzjbD0QGNoVW60DeWQVnAcCIyyN2yZLg= ; Message-ID: <20060426074753.76621.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:47:53 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival in Boise's Thrive Magazine To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <16ce01c668d2$8c2b59f0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <104E0.A.RX.rWyTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:47:55 +0000 (UTC) cool as hell man,great quotes...that Dryden guy seems to get"it".i know you all are getting stoked for the weekend...hope the weather is good and hordes of folks turn out for the shows.how are tEds fingers?any word?hope hes ok...ill keep my ear to the ground,this weather finds me busy busking,but i hope to see/hear some footage. to the future, danny visionary. --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > The Boise Experimental Music Festival just showed up > in Boise's entertainment magazine, "Thrive", with > quotes and reflections from me and Rick Walker. > > Check it out: > http://www.thriveweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060425/THRIVE02/604250313 > > Kris > > ************************************************* > Krispen Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com / > www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > Discography - > http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm > Looper's Delight Playlist - > http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 08:12:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03B293BED0; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=EOKiC9jbgEEBb01uW+DBpFxyGAEA9HthNHpU3/CSa6po4v2v9TtIvN7RolxaaX5qb7zhXrOvB/c0h/VKZZe0RQ03DpVMK0ixBoQzHKKwoVQ9Z3j8sT3KaBAImzApJf7DMSw8SYXM57MSLS+yuM2QTknTxdByqskdm2v5potaeUw= In-Reply-To: <00f801c668b1$d2636ff0$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> References: <20060425.115740.731.588467@webmail33.nyc.untd.com> <00f801c668b1$d2636ff0$3300a8c0@Exscribe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <58A762CC-8DD7-48F1-84F8-B6A843A3F721@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Digital vs. Analog (and now GuitarPlayer) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:12:22 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <8JF9oD.A.EyB.ptyTEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:12:25 +0000 (UTC) >> Am I alone here or are their other folks who like to abuse analog or >> even acoustic effects? I even use a third type of effects: MECHANICAL. >> Or will I finally see the light and buy a >> laptop to cultivate my very own VST farm? No. The true bliss will enlighten your being as the three become one: Digital, Analog, Mechanical. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 08:21:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CCCC3BED8; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=RToGz/K87KxTuYwouqe2GIAHMkcSMdBBPfBWEue9yDtIRK2ZdMD3uNS1S27qOuOmZK83XJSpRIdPl5mQRGbFE/luTR3P5ipSn4C2ZLY+PrYxhQzOvewRKHaN0Jla/ts95JSZ9Y7DUethrkN8ke08oWjlS9iDVmmaktSN/pnr02Y= In-Reply-To: <16ce01c668d2$8c2b59f0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <16ce01c668d2$8c2b59f0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <83B5E443-B6C3-4CC9-A237-4DE03EB4617B@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival in Boise's Thrive Magazine Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:21:47 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:21:51 +0000 (UTC) On 26 apr 2006, at 03.41, Krispen Hartung wrote: > The Boise Experimental Music Festival just showed up in Boise's > entertainment magazine, "Thrive", with quotes and reflections from > me and Rick Walker. > > Check it out: http://www.thriveweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? > AID=/20060425/THRIVE02/604250313 A very good story! My blessings to the journalist to Kris for putting the words right in the first place :-)) Suddenly I feel very good, after reading that article. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 11:25:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 132DE3BECC; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=bS+YOybftdz5tqzWKc+UZ7HOxKiv6pBjt3EkXKjDb7QOR9CPp/7FKkdhUeI4Ych4zhV8YjEYORldOCnPdFgrBhI1drWHUpwcRw6QOqIvFEPUTsOuPBOhhpC6wH7C5a/3dHa2BayI/0tzU8sKHrVgOhg3ZFQ5kxWs9LVxsfmRLdo= ; Message-ID: <005f01c66924$240f9d20$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> From: "Ben" To: References: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> <158501c6688a$e8f2ce40$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: semi-OT: usine Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:25:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Kris, It has effects on its own that you can patch the "reaktor way" as well as VST support. It's a mix between Live (matrix view) and Reaktor (panel, modular patching). It seems more dedicated to effecting a IN signal (up to 8) (looping, sampling, delaying, Vsting,...) than to play prepared samples. There is a wav player however to test if you don't have an input connected. The DL is free. I just started it yesterday, had a few crashes with ASIO4all but seems now quite stable. Still have to read the manual and see if it likes Mobius ;-) Ben. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: semi-OT: usine > This is intriguing. Has anyone on the list used this? The website needs > more info, but I guess I'll read the manual. Is it just a host, or does > it come with some VST effects? > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben" > >> www.sensomusic.com >> >> A new software looper and VST host. >> >> I didn't had the time to fully try it but seems cool. >> >> Ben >> >> >> >> Here's the feature list from the manual: >> >> Usine is a universal audio software especially designed for live or >> studio utilisation. Usine is made by musicians and audio engineers to >> respond to their specific problems in a lot of domains like live >> sampling, effect processing or sound design. Usine is a real musical >> instrument, flexible and powerful if you like to transform, resample the >> sound on stage (not only push the play button of your sequencer!), >> improvise and create unusual effect. >> >> What can you do with Usine? >> >> . Build modular sound processing: creates patch with "modules" and >> connect them by virtual wires very simply. >> >> . Analyse input or generated sound, for example pitch, peaks or dynamics >> to create adaptive effects, modify any parameter in real time. >> >> . Use the built-in virtual mixing table to mix the sound produced by >> different patchs on each tracks (up to 16). >> >> . Create huge, creative or stupid audio routing within the mixing table. >> For example, routing, a patch output to another patch input, or create a >> virtual master effect send and return, etc. >> >> . Manage 16 external audio sources (8 stereo) and apply different effects >> to any of them. >> >> . Create flexible Surround or 5.1 projects: all audio tracks are 5.1 or >> 6.0. The output sound can routed to any of the 16 available outputs, >> depending on your sound card. >> >> . Create inserts patchs on any input / output channels. For example a >> master limiter or a master reverb. >> >> . Complete VST® processing: You can use any VST instruments or effect in >> patchs and modify any VST Parameter in real time. Create a front-end >> simple interface. >> >> . Complete MIDI automation: assign any Usine visual object to a midi >> controller very simply by using the midi-learn command. Complete >> integration of motorized external controllers. >> >> . Complete MIDI input/output management, for VSTi instruments or external >> expanders. >> >> . Load up to 256 patchs in memory in a "grid" and activate them as you >> want in real time. >> >> . Unlimited scene memorization, recalled manually or according to a >> precise smpte code. >> >> . Synchronize patchs and VST plug-ins with a master tempo. Use unusual >> and absurd tempos from 0! To 10000000000! >> >> . Record your creations directly on the hard disk in real time: separate >> tracks, inputs and outputs. >> >> . All Usine functions are "real-time", and you can resample, modify, >> input sound on the fly. >> Of course, save patchs, complete workspaces, and configurations, for a >> very quick >> adaptation to different projects. >> . Unlimited Undo/Redo. >> . Use any sample rate, depending on your Asio sound card. Usine has a 32 >> bit floating >> point audio engine. >> . If you are a C++ or Delphi programmer you can easily create new users >> modules >> with the API. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver >> directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez >> vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur >> http://fr.yahoo.com/set >> >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 14:19:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C76243BEDC; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <184c01c6693c$765ae360$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <20060426074753.76621.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival in Boise's Thrive Magazine Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:19:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Aspam: Words 0.0 -chris -interface -kindly -https -solving -mails -registration -queue +yahoo X-Aspam: URLS scored 0.8 yahoo.com servername.com netwin.co.nz X-Aspam: Best match was sample c:\good\1052269076.289_200.ball X-Aspam: Total 0.8 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 542, in=281280, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Yep, Chad "got it" alright...which is uncommon for some reporters for this type of music. The key here was that I prepped the hell out of Dryden beforehand...I sent him all the communications for the event, the press release, a series of BEMF "Do You Know" updates that revealed interesting tid bits of info about the musicians or event, etc, etc...and he completely read the website. And he called and interviewed me and listened well. I probably talked to fast though, because he didn't get my quote on experimental music quite right: "In the strict sense of the word, experimental music is very restrictive. It's spontaneous composition, often with no meter or time signature." I meant to characterize a form of free improv, reserving the strict definition of experimental music to the type that are actual "experiments" or installments, which require a fair amount of pre-planning. Such as the contraption one BEMF perfomer (who has a PhD in electronic music) created that sampled the frequency of moth wings flapping and converted the varying frequencies into tonal patterns...or the machine he setup that captured cosmic rays and converted that to sound, using a computer program, VST effects, etc. Oh well. I got the main point across and was happy with how I framed the loose boundaries of the genres, I guess. It was no fault of his, but mine for not being clear. Oh, by the way, we are streaming the entire festival to the web, and recording it. I'll share the details later, but for now here is the link: http://www.radioboise.org/ (click on "Listen Here"). The first performance starts on Friday at 7pm MST US time, or 9pm EST US time (Boston), or 6pm PST (California), or 1:00am Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 2:00am in London. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "daniel stevenson" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:47 AM Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival in Boise's Thrive Magazine > cool as hell man,great quotes...that Dryden guy seems > to get"it".i know you all are getting stoked for the > weekend...hope the weather is good and hordes of folks > turn out for the shows.how are tEds fingers?any > word?hope hes ok...ill keep my ear to the ground,this > weather finds me busy busking,but i hope to see/hear > some footage. > to the future, > danny visionary. > > --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> The Boise Experimental Music Festival just showed up >> in Boise's entertainment magazine, "Thrive", with >> quotes and reflections from me and Rick Walker. >> >> Check it out: >> > http://www.thriveweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060425/THRIVE02/604250313 >> >> Kris >> >> ************************************************* >> Krispen Hartung >> www.krispenhartung.com / >> www.myspace.com/krispenhartung >> info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 >> Discography - >> http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm >> Looper's Delight Playlist - >> http://www.boisemusicians.com/loopers-delight.m3u >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 16:11:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85D5F3BEE2; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Joshua Morin" To: Subject: Drunk Stoned or in Love - (Joshua Morin) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:09:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C6692A.3921FEF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZpS7/ag9imMFhkTkWmw+U0yIUH1g== Message-Id: <20060426161101.D3A523BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0hgfgD.A.pED.Vu5TEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:11:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C6692A.3921FEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys and gals, I have pre released three new tracks from my upcoming second album called Drunk Stoned or in Love at http://www.myspace.com/joshuamorin There is no looping on these tracks as is, (all my looping is done at my live show) but I thought that I might as well let people know anyhow. 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------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C6692A.3921FEF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 18:30:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 416DC3BEE2; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kESVXn3LerpvU/F8bkduP1t+k9lHg/90gZhbItHHaQWEvIY9DnFiAR/KIyg1yPRY13d0UdOS7CK2EKdAlodsbRFJmDXOc/Is2BFqAMxKKrCbuLZzWy+AyByB7TZYhzG2vEjgaTP1vwYVt0fYEhPbKMJb4i3tmsMG9McmZ6ffNFs= ; Message-ID: <20060426183046.69881.qmail@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:30:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: AW: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002e01c6689e$aa062a10$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:30:49 +0000 (UTC) well Rainer i wont argue about that with you the german system is far from perfect but which one is it? no offense but germans are always too busy complaining about it,but the question is how would u feel if u had your hand burned and couldnt see a doctor?have u ever been in such a situation? Approximately 46 million Americans,or 15.7 percent of the population, were without health insurance in 2004 (the latest government data available).How many people are in left-wing germany? The number of uninsured children in 2004 was 8.3 million - or 11.2 percent of all children in the U.S. how many children are uninsured in deutschland? bottom line if i was rich and famous id prefer america in the meantime i am happy here. peace Luis --- Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > The vast majority of the German healthcare system is > some kind of hidden > ultra-left-wing method of income redistribution. > Therefore, I hate it. It > adds to the fact that Germany has become a place > that is only nice of you > actively exploit the system. Why there are still > highly-qualified people > residing in Germany is beyond me. > > Rainer > > > All i can tell u is that i love the German health > care > > system,nearly everyone residing in Germany is > guaranteed > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 18:55:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 108D43BED3; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005f01c66924$240f9d20$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> References: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> <158501c6688a$e8f2ce40$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <005f01c66924$240f9d20$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:47:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: vote for me! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Greetings - My name is on a poll at jambands.com, asking the question "Which of these artists do you believe most consistently fails to receive the critical praise it warrants?" I'd appreciate it if you'd click on me! http://www.jambands.com/Jambands250/ P.S. I've got another loop jam up on my site - featuring Darol Anger. See http://www.dgans.com/tunes.html -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 19:36:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73E673BEDC; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7988787.1146080178804.JavaMail.root@web26> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:36:18 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Cc: "L.A. Angulo" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:36:24 +0000 (UTC) "hidden ultra-left-wing method of income redistribution. " We have one too. People with bags on their heads go into banks & convenience stores with notes and (optional) guns. -- Paul ---- "L.A. Angulo" wrote: > well Rainer i wont argue about that with you the > german system is far from perfect but which one is it? > no offense but germans are always too busy complaining > about it,but the question is how would u feel if u had > your hand burned and couldnt see a doctor?have u ever > been in such a situation? Approximately 46 million > Americans,or 15.7 percent of the population, were > without health insurance in 2004 (the latest > government data available).How many people are in > left-wing germany? > The number of uninsured children in 2004 was 8.3 > million - or 11.2 percent of all children in the U.S. > how many children are uninsured in deutschland? > bottom line if i was rich and famous id prefer america > in the meantime i am happy here. > peace > Luis > > > --- Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill > wrote: > > > The vast majority of the German healthcare system is > > some kind of hidden > > ultra-left-wing method of income redistribution. > > Therefore, I hate it. It > > adds to the fact that Germany has become a place > > that is only nice of you > > actively exploit the system. Why there are still > > highly-qualified people > > residing in Germany is beyond me. > > > > Rainer > > > > > All i can tell u is that i love the German health > > care > > > system,nearly everyone residing in Germany is > > guaranteed > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 20:51:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 316F03BED0; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:51:50 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Zoe Keating wrote: > I travel too much to read boards. Every single board-based list I have > dropped out of (except the resistance-is-futile-myspace-borg). > I like being able to download all mail in a batch whenever wifi is > accessible. Then, I read it at my leisure. I read and answer it in the Paris metro, though the trips are too short for all my lists... And just the time a web site needs to show up is far from immediate. getting to the next mail is not just a click, its already there when I release the button. I simply could not keep up if I'd use a board... The increase of speed of internet access is not keeping up with the demand of new websites (exept wikipedia). Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:00:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA3E13BEDE; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:00:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 544, in=285681, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Again, I'll reiterate my last point. Why is everyone treating this topic as so black and white? You can integrate both an email system (like the current LD list) and a web-based system. It's not one or the other. With a savvy programmer, youcan do anything you want. The bottom line is that migrating to a new system of this sort provides choices to people with different needs. Now, what the heck is wrong with that? If you don't like the web board, you simply don't use it. If you like the extra benefits of a web-based, graphical system, then you use it. It's that simple. All this dispute about the merits of one or another is a straw man argument. They are not mutuallly exclusive. Or does everyone just like arguing for the sake of arguing here? :) I'm just wondering how practical this thread is unless we actually produce and agree on some deliverable that meets more user needs than the status quo. Cheers, Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks > Zoe Keating wrote: >> I travel too much to read boards. Every single board-based list I have >> dropped out of (except the resistance-is-futile-myspace-borg). >> I like being able to download all mail in a batch whenever wifi is >> accessible. Then, I read it at my leisure. > > I read and answer it in the Paris metro, though the trips are too short > for all my lists... And just the time a web site needs to show up is far > from immediate. getting to the next mail is not just a click, its already > there when I release the button. I simply could not keep up if I'd use a > board... The increase of speed of internet access is not keeping up with > the demand of new websites (exept wikipedia). > > Stefan > > -- > > [][] [][][] [][] [][][] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > Stefan Tiedje > Klanggestalter > Electronic Composition > & > Improvisation > > /~~~~~\ > \\\ /|() ()|\ > ))))) )| | |( \\\ > /// \ \_/)/ ))))) > \___/ /// > > -------------------------x---- > --_____-----------|----------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- > -- _|_)----|-----()----------- > ----------()------------x----- > > 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, > 94320 Thiais, France > Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:15:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 731ED3BEE4; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=e4VjyLdkA3r/QpE4CvXpP3MxQTsczJcflDEjX480/f2Dyf6i5aA2UAWeOKyekISK9lMRUOCZx5ogk3ZcdIc5soVPjSh2yqgFfdyb0kFwuyrj4fPFn0nLET1259XoZbqULqO4wNbml26BWEaZlAa525DkpPKvlRMFARkK6wGzPOs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <782DDDB4-CC22-11D8-8E24-000A95CA68EC@boysen.se> References: <40D0C2E3.9020602@soundscapes.us> <782DDDB4-CC22-11D8-8E24-000A95CA68EC@boysen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:15:29 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:15:34 +0000 (UTC) On 2 jul 2004, at 14.22, Per Boysen wrote: > http://www.gamlavykort.nu/artiklar/dansband/ > > Greetings from Sweden ;-) Time for a refreshing repost... but please sit down before you look at these pictures, or you may hurt yourself when falling helplessly laughing to the floor ;-) (found this when cleaning up my email based community system) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:17:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38EB43BEE2; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:17:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749) X-Server-Quench: 1c93367a-d56a-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:17:51 +0000 (UTC) ah... the way i read it, I did think it was either/or. that's why i chimed in (where usually i stay out of this stuff!). but if everything is possible and, then you're right. doesn't matter a bit! On Apr 26, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Again, I'll reiterate my last point. Why is everyone treating this > topic as so black and white? You can integrate both an email system > (like the current LD list) and a web-based system. It's not one or > the other. With a savvy programmer, youcan do anything you want. > The bottom line is that migrating to a new system of this sort > provides choices to people with different needs. Now, what the heck > is wrong with that? If you don't like the web board, you simply > don't use it. If you like the extra benefits of a web-based, > graphical system, then you use it. It's that simple. > > All this dispute about the merits of one or another is a straw man > argument. They are not mutuallly exclusive. > > Or does everyone just like arguing for the sake of arguing > here? :) I'm just wondering how practical this thread is unless > we actually produce and agree on some deliverable that meets more > user needs than the status quo. > > Cheers, > > Kris > > ----- O From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:21:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F9F23BEF6; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SxK/OYp7itZ7HbId939c8pirdS8xNTilrWtSz6+It7MfLKmbmCk1uwD99zqdDDdwo1TB9+fNtcF0CPXo4C/ultAjZfIW0O+DBExmIAc+R0ItEA9slMeedsK+EW4JncExqgcNN/8D0rFQ0Zi0WiRBA72OhLyUNGa+SVqnaVvyyAo= Message-ID: <2665e0c50604261421o5246f2b9pf1f01c982a072dd4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:21:44 -0500 From: "Ben M" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks In-Reply-To: <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5722_10696382.1146086504471" References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:21:47 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5722_10696382.1146086504471 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I prefer neither a mailing list or a message board. From now on, I would like all of you to communicate your looping messages to me either by long-distance smoke signaling, sky-writing, or the painstaking medium of cell-phone text messages. DO YOU HEAR ME?! Ben ------=_Part_5722_10696382.1146086504471 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
I prefer neither a mailing list or a message board.  From now on,= I would like all of you to communicate your looping messages to me either = by long-distance smoke signaling, sky-writing, or the painstaking medium of= cell-phone text messages.  DO YOU HEAR ME?!
 
Ben
 
 
------=_Part_5722_10696382.1146086504471-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:26:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 085B03BEF0; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <444FE57D.9070405@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:26:21 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: semi-OT: usine References: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> <335F95A6-5398-4BD4-BFE4-68F05A0C5E80@skeletonhome.com> In-Reply-To: <335F95A6-5398-4BD4-BFE4-68F05A0C5E80@skeletonhome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:26:24 +0000 (UTC) bruce tovsky wrote: > too bad it's windows only, looks pretty cool. seems to be built in max. Definitely not built in Max, but in Max you can easily build something like that (doing it all the time...) Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:27:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC94D3BEF4; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IMZxVZOMFJyKU6tK6BaT+STPqnTHHs6GEivNVLQD1O8xHNzbqektwlAZA7eWIoFJAbHKY2qNSXCR3cLygbbe49dJdXyh/359UMpwwb/YyqawV5wJwVf2+2vXDAU+sMQJGvkAKmOW3oWaOQYmuJB2qLubXjqDCfXSfrGQnZLsgos= Message-ID: <913728d60604261426t4f116a6v9d7b89344ca6ef55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:26:58 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <40D0C2E3.9020602@soundscapes.us> <782DDDB4-CC22-11D8-8E24-000A95CA68EC@boysen.se> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:27:03 +0000 (UTC) is that guy on the far left of the Gert Jonnys Louie Anderson? Charlie On 4/26/06, Per Boysen wrote: > On 2 jul 2004, at 14.22, Per Boysen wrote: > > > http://www.gamlavykort.nu/artiklar/dansband/ > > > > Greetings from Sweden ;-) > > > Time for a refreshing repost... but please sit down before you look > at these pictures, or you may hurt yourself when falling helplessly > laughing to the floor ;-) > > (found this when cleaning up my email based community system) > > per > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:30:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 649033BEF4; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: <40D0C2E3.9020602@soundscapes.us> <782DDDB4-CC22-11D8-8E24-000A95CA68EC@boysen.se> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-276071795 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:29:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: <8hr0qC.A.l_B.gZ-TEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:30:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9-276071795 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Priceless! That's just too good, Per. Ah! For the good old days... Thanks for the smile richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 26-Apr-06, at 2:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 2 jul 2004, at 14.22, Per Boysen wrote: > >> http://www.gamlavykort.nu/artiklar/dansband/ >> >> Greetings from Sweden ;-) > > > Time for a refreshing repost... but please sit down before you look at > these pictures, or you may hurt yourself when falling helplessly > laughing to the floor ;-) > > (found this when cleaning up my email based community system) > > per > --Apple-Mail-9-276071795 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Priceless! That's just too good, Per. Ah! For the good old days... Thanks for the smile Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 26-Apr-06, at 2:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: On 2 jul 2004, at 14.22, Per Boysen wrote: http://www.gamlavykort.nu/artiklar/dansband/ Greetings from Sweden ;-) Time for a refreshing repost... but please sit down before you look at these pictures, or you may hurt yourself when falling helplessly laughing to the floor ;-) (found this when cleaning up my email based community system) per --Apple-Mail-9-276071795-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:40:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EB1E3BEDC; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: <444FE57D.9070405@addcom.de> References: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> <335F95A6-5398-4BD4-BFE4-68F05A0C5E80@skeletonhome.com> <444FE57D.9070405@addcom.de> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-276696035 Message-Id: <6DCAC744-9C21-49EC-A519-C5E5AEB1025A@skeletonhome.com> From: bruce tovsky Subject: Re: semi-OT: usine Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:40:20 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:40:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-276696035 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Apr 26, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Definitely not built in Max, but in Max you can easily build > something like that (doing it all the time...) > > Stefan hi stefan ok, i should have said "looks like something you could build in max..." cheers bruce bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Douglas Adams --Apple-Mail-4-276696035 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Apr 26, 2006, = at 5:26 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

Definitely not built in Max, = but in Max you can easily build something like that (doing it all the = time...)


Stefan


hi stefan
ok, i = should have said "looks like something you could build in = max..."
cheers
bruce

bruce tovsky

www.skeletonhome.com


=

"Flying is learning how to = throw yourself at the ground and miss."

Douglas Adams

=

= --Apple-Mail-4-276696035-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:42:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8788D3BF01; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:42:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=CrPXYg4F0h3oK75gx4GUzPhntG2RDRgDZlyjI+1DNL6UAJZWIfvoXsHaDHDICL4A; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <3440706.1146087758778.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:42:38 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da94064dc1969518522cfe7a900127fcf8b20350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.47 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:42:42 +0000 (UTC)
Perhaps instant telepathy of some manner is available. I'm sure that Mr. Gates is working on neural implants as we speak. In the immortal words of the American Satirist Dennis Miller "Bill Gates, there's a guy who is only a monacle and a fluffy white cat away from being a Bond Villain........."


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From: Ben M
Sent: Apr 26, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks

I prefer neither a mailing list or a message board.  From now on, I would like all of you to communicate your looping messages to me either by long-distance smoke signaling, sky-writing, or the painstaking medium of cell-phone text messages.  DO YOU HEAR ME?!
 
Ben
 
 
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 21:51:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C04433BEE4; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=47tYPYeoI/Hh3ozn/72ZDb7PIuKwPREAXtWa0x2RsTOOiRfzhlN/KV9HRhWeUqu3qIM5CL3kfvObWGliY4as/59x7qZ3hgqeZraHrQiWda3HEvvIUegZ41u/9/diVzLxvCVYmbOVKD3CVu2Bnr/eayNTePAdS5s+M+TLu4V7sbk= ; Message-ID: <20060426215113.3746.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:51:13 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: vote for me! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <24iYfB.A.28C.pt-TEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:51:37 +0000 (UTC) My doctor said I wasn't getting enough anger and screaming in my music so I'm going to have to vote for someone else. Also, Hippy gives me gas. Sorry. Mark --- David Gans wrote: > > > > Greetings - > > My name is on a poll at jambands.com, asking the > question > > "Which of these artists do you believe most > consistently fails to > receive the critical praise it warrants?" > > I'd appreciate it if you'd click on me! > > http://www.jambands.com/Jambands250/ > > > > > P.S. I've got another loop jam up on my site - > featuring Darol > Anger. See http://www.dgans.com/tunes.html > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, > Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 22:01:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5D233BEFA; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IymsfgiFR/aXTg4/Smv6kxgZCYBLj5MnkZp5kxxJjiR5xiaZ0kOkf/AH5lk5f4FdC+7PfScHWSzeUOG7CERj3UHuKkD05rmOg94H6rgHmzz5gy8OmUXmoCS9PrQ1MOae5RSfu1Yai5y7bsdcKpiAV8jOTTrNxddYFtOovm+0YE8= ; Message-ID: <20060426220155.77424.qmail@web27405.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:01:55 +0100 (BST) From: Tony Douglas Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Priceless stuff this ... This is probably for UK folks only but ... is it me, or is that Rodney Bewes from The Likely Lads moonlighting with Lennes ??? I think we should be told ... (We used to joke that we wanted to be in country and western bands but couldn't afford the clothes, so became rockers instead ...) - Tony --- Per Boysen wrote: [ boy, did he just ... ! ] ___________________________________________________________ NEW - Yahoo! 360 – Your one place to blog, create, publish and share! http://uk.360.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 22:41:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDAA03BEE0; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003601c66982$9b29a320$f5b95545@Biffoz> From: "Miko Biffle" To: References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:41:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:41:19 +0000 (UTC) From: "Krispen Hartung" > Again, I'll reiterate my last point. Why is everyone treating this topic as so black and white? You can integrate both an email system (like the current LD list) and a web-based system. It's not one or the other. Because in my mind and apparently many others who use both interfaces, we see it that way. If you're proposing a NEW paradigm, then please explain further what you're imagining. I'd MUCH rather have sorted email. We're a fairly informed online community and merely stating our preferences. The future could certainly bring improvements over either system. > With a savvy programmer, you can do anything you want. I'm sure someone's working on something? You mentioned deliverables... what are they? > All this dispute about the merits of one or another is a straw man argument. They are not mutuallly exclusive. Or course not, but I'm curious about this middle ground you're talking about. Short of that you're stuck with our opinions... clearly there's been a lot of posting of preferences, so people feel they have something to defend based on experience. Great job on the festival though! Sounds like a new level of organization and understanding... I TOTALLY support the amount of time and energy you've been putting into that, along with all the other activity you're involved in. Truly high energy involvement... great job Kris! Can't wait to hear some of it if possible. Cheers, Miko Biffle -- "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." C'mon over to MySpace! www.myspace.com/biffozz Now playing 'Rough' www.cdbaby.com/biffoz The Chain Tape Collective! www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 22:41:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7753F3BEE7; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <028101c66982$96778cc0$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> From: "David O'Heare" To: References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:41:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <7EP7I.A.jYF.wc_TEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:41:52 +0000 (UTC) "Krispen Hartung" said: > With a savvy programmer, you can do anything you want. Agreed. I understood the initial discussion to suggest that we switch away from the email list and to a web-board-only thing, and that's what I disagree with. Of course, we need to find someone with the smarts and the time and the resources to put all this together. Or we could go to Yahoo/MSN/Google/whatever and use their system, and hope that they don't change their terms of service again... [snip] > Or does everyone just like arguing for the sake of arguing here? :) I'm "Yes, I'm here for an argument...." *WHANG* "Oh, sorry, this is Getting Hit On The Head lessons" > just wondering how practical this thread is unless we actually produce and > agree on some deliverable that meets more user needs than the status quo. I'm still not clear on what user needs might be met by a web-board system. Could someone explain in words of one syllable or less, please? Dave O'Heare oheareATmagmaDOTca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 22:47:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EF423BEDD; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004401c66983$767a5a00$f5b95545@Biffoz> From: "Miko Biffle" To: References: <020c01c66881$6553d2e0$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> <158501c6688a$e8f2ce40$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <005f01c66924$240f9d20$6502a8c0@Ruelle2> Subject: Re: vote for me! Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:47:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: <96b_L.A.4nF.9h_TEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Wow David! You're number ONE!! (ahead by 5.3% at this exact moment... ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gans" > My name is on a poll at jambands.com, asking the question "Which of these artists do you believe most consistently fails to receive the critical praise it warrants?" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 22:48:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A0403BED8; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eJ3oeygSLG4ltvnqceHGQN/T+KCKrhU8hTtboTl0wq2QIsZt5pEJ5GUU5nWLhYUOjMa6fK8NmJfOyesEsviNhclh8EFjCD0aeA8VE817IWTE0/v7AU5/xBLV3UBh4I/Ym6EmYHl0em8owhRcO03vye9tevFg8y4pRoL1ZFP2Qrg= ; Message-ID: <20060426224834.71807.qmail@web33804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:48:34 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-814532927-1146091714=:71128" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:48:36 +0000 (UTC) --0-814532927-1146091714=:71128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Are you posting it here because they all loop? Do they laptop or are they more into floor pedals? How come there are no audio links? ;-) ted harms. Per Boysen wrote: On 2 jul 2004, at 14.22, Per Boysen wrote: > http://www.gamlavykort.nu/artiklar/dansband/ > > Greetings from Sweden ;-) Time for a refreshing repost... but please sit down before you look at these pictures, or you may hurt yourself when falling helplessly laughing to the floor ;-) (found this when cleaning up my email based community system) per --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. --0-814532927-1146091714=:71128 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
Are you posting it here because they all loop? Do they laptop or are they more into floor pedals? How come there are no audio links?
 
;-)
 
 
ted harms. 
 


Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2 jul 2004, at 14.22, Per Boysen wrote:

> http://www.gamlavykort.nu/artiklar/dansband/
>
> Greetings from Sweden ;-)


Time for a refreshing repost... but please sit down before you look
at these pictures, or you may hurt yourself when falling helplessly
laughing to the floor ;-)

(found this when cleaning up my email based community system)

per



Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. --0-814532927-1146091714=:71128-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 22:55:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FAAB3BED9; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005701c66984$a76ee4e0$f5b95545@Biffoz> From: "Miko Biffle" To: References: <40D0C2E3.9020602@soundscapes.us> <782DDDB4-CC22-11D8-8E24-000A95CA68EC@boysen.se> Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:56:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:55:57 +0000 (UTC) From: "Per Boysen" Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) > On 2 jul 2004, at 14.22, Per Boysen wrote: > > > http://www.gamlavykort.nu/artiklar/dansband/ > > > > Greetings from Sweden ;-) Wow! There's not ONE pic where the outfits don't match... astounding! Fourth pic down... The pink tops with the HUGE floppy collars really kills me... Now are YOU in any of these pics? (Wish I could understand the text.) Thanks Per! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 23:03:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29DF03BEDE; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1ac901c66985$ae5d8850$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <003601c66982$9b29a320$f5b95545@Biffoz> Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:03:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 545, in=294846, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: <3pXLSC.A.ZwG.Yx_TEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:03:53 +0000 (UTC) > Because in my mind and apparently many others who use both interfaces, we > see it that way. That's unfortunate, as the world is not black and white, especially when it comes to user needs and information management/communication. A lot of people like tea, and a lot like coffee, but I don't insist that stores only carry or display one or the other. In fact, to satisfy customer wants, this is why there is the "Charger" - chai tea and shots of coffee. If you're proposing a NEW paradigm, then please explain further what you're imagining. Well, it's not even a new paradigm...that's an exaggeration. It wouldn't take a programming genius to develop a system that is email based like the system you are accustomed to now, but also has a web-based interface that draws from the same data-base. If a person's needs are met, why would he/she give a gnat's ass whether another group of user's needs were also met? Seems like a win-win situation to me, unless folks are just being belligerent and counter-productive about the whole thing. Don't we want to satisfy multiple user needs? Or is this group just a bunch of ego maniacs who care about nothing show-n-tell of their own unique needs. This is supposed to be a community... > I'd MUCH rather have sorted email. Yes, and that is what you shall get...do you not like the idea of having it your way, but someone else being satisfied as well? I can;'t imagine what you sex life is like ;) just kidding...really...I'm in a frisky mood because of the stress of planning. I am smiling now. > We're a fairly informed online community and merely stating our > preferences. The future could certainly bring improvements over either > system. Agreed...and back to my point. If everyone focused on this new system rather than bashing one or another, then we might get somewhere. >> With a savvy programmer, you can do anything you want. > > I'm sure someone's working on something? You mentioned deliverables... > what > are they? The actual system, whether it is off the shelf and customizable, or if someone has the know-how, one built from the ground up. It depends on what everyone wants...but it's certainly possible. >> All this dispute about the merits of one or another is a straw man > argument. They are not mutually exclusive. > > Or course not, but I'm curious about this middle ground you're talking > about. Short of that you're stuck with our opinions... That's exactly what should compel us to move on...that we are stuck with diverse opinions. The middle ground....it not obvious? Consider the various needs expressed in this thread thus far....now imagine a system that meets them. There're your middle ground...it's a Charger. clearly there's been > a lot of posting of preferences, so people feel they have something to > defend based on experience. I don't know why anyone is defending anything. It's not like the current LD list is under threat of alien intrusion. We're just expressing our needs and wants. That sort of healthy dialogue sometimes leads to improved products and services...sometimes...sometimes it just pisses people off. > Great job on the festival though! Sounds like a new level of organization > and understanding... I TOTALLY support the amount of time and energy > you've > been putting into that, along with all the other activity you're involved > in. Truly high energy involvement... great job Kris! Can't wait to hear > some > of it if possible. Thank you! It has been a lot of work and I can't wait to see it in action. Tonight they setup rows of stage lights and, hopefully a system to control them. I am making a moveable stage curtain, to move from one stage to another, so that group A can setup in peace while group B is playing, etc. We're getting down to the wire now.... Kris > > Cheers, > Miko Biffle -- "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." > C'mon over to MySpace! www.myspace.com/biffozz > Now playing 'Rough' www.cdbaby.com/biffoz > The Chain Tape Collective! www.ct-collective.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 26 23:46:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4E923BEE0; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006701c6698b$ae3ad660$f5b95545@Biffoz> From: "Miko Biffle" To: References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <003601c66982$9b29a320$f5b95545@Biffoz> <1ac901c66985$ae5d8850$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:46:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: <9XlucB.A.JP.IZAUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:46:16 +0000 (UTC) >> Because in my mind and apparently many others who use both interfaces, we see it that way. > That's unfortunate, as the world is not black and white, especially when it comes to user needs and information management/communication. A lot of people like tea, and a lot like coffee, but I don't insist that stores only carry or display one or the other. In fact, to satisfy customer wants, this is why there is the "Charger" - chai tea and shots of coffee. It's not unfortunate that I have a preference... and I will certainly welcome alternatives when I see them and assess their usefulness to me. You seem to have misunderstood our responses to the question... "Which do you prefer?" It's just a preference... If this group is now discussing web-development, then the discussion is wandering, and confusing us all. >> If you're proposing a NEW paradigm, then please explain further what you're imagining. > Well, it's not even a new paradigm...that's an exaggeration. It wouldn't take a programming genius to develop a system that is email based like the system you are accustomed to now, but also has a web-based interface that draws from the same data-base. If a person's needs are met, why would he/she give a gnat's ass whether another group of user's needs were also met? Seems like a win-win situation to me, unless folks are just being belligerent and counter-productive about the whole thing. Don't we want to satisfy multiple user needs? Or is this group just a bunch of ego maniacs who care about nothing show-n-tell of their own unique needs. This is supposed to be a community... You're talking down to us now Kris... I want what you want... unfortunately it's not here yet. (If it is, someone point us to it!) Once again... we're just responding to a simple question of preference. Once again... it's all OT and you seem to want to go deeper in the discussion. > > I'd MUCH rather have sorted email. > Yes, and that is what you shall get...do you not like the idea of having it your way, but someone else being satisfied as well? I can;'t imagine what you sex life is like ;) just kidding...really...I'm in a frisky mood because of the stress of planning. I am smiling now. Your condescension is really showing now Kris. Never once, did I say someone else couldn't have it their way. I'm not imposing anything on anyone... yet I feel that in some way, you're getting pushy about this. Satisfy US Kris... understand the nature of our replies to a simple, inane question, and quit calling us close-minded luddites. > > We're a fairly informed online community and merely stating our preferences. The future could certainly bring improvements over either system. > Agreed...and back to my point. If everyone focused on this new system rather than bashing one or another, then we might get somewhere. Where's the bashing? We're just saying we don't like web-based systems. Just preferences. > >> With a savvy programmer, you can do anything you want. > > I'm sure someone's working on something? You mentioned deliverables... what are they? > The actual system, whether it is off the shelf and customizable, or if someone has the know-how, one built from the ground up. It depends on what everyone wants...but it's certainly possible. It sounds like you want us all to brainstorm and come up with something. Start a thread that clearly states that and see if you get any takers. Yes... it's certainly possible. Pretty far from looping though. >>> All this dispute about the merits of one or another is a straw man argument. They are not mutually exclusive. >> Or course not, but I'm curious about this middle ground you're talking about. Short of that you're stuck with our opinions... > That's exactly what should compel us to move on...that we are stuck with diverse opinions. The middle ground....it not obvious? Consider the various needs expressed in this thread thus far....now imagine a system that meets them. There're your middle ground...it's a Charger. Again... you seem to want something from us. Move on? From WHAT, to WHAT? > I don't know why anyone is defending anything. It's not like the current LD list is under threat of alien intrusion. We're just expressing our needs and wants. That sort of healthy dialogue sometimes leads to improved products and services...sometimes...sometimes it just pisses people off. If the question was just a random, which do you like, with no intention of how the list might look using one or the other, it's OFF TOPIC. It's natural to think that ideas that pop up here are somehow pertinent to us and the list, and might lead to action of some sort. So NO don't change the interface. Otherwise... YES! Invent something better. I'm not so sure it means a lot to me here on this list though. Again... this isn't a programming or web-developer discussion group. > > Great job on the festival though! Sounds like a new level of organization and understanding... I TOTALLY support the amount of time and energy you've been putting into that, along with all the other activity you're involved in. Truly high energy involvement... great job Kris! Can't wait to hear some of it if possible. > Thank you! It has been a lot of work and I can't wait to see it in action. Tonight they setup rows of stage lights and, hopefully a system to control them. I am making a moveable stage curtain, to move from one stage to another, so that group A can setup in peace while group B is playing, etc. We're getting down to the wire now.... Kris Good luck Kris! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 01:00:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E9743BED8; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qBPxR2XQDwgBJ205OvGoiHEWwhokmPqkFpYepnGPBOVrzHXfVnhGTLJEsOKb98BQq+dNgad/NTGf4Wq4xoSLxxn4UZy72Vp3HKJMMZsl/e8A3dM9UJ6op0RsbGLm9pk3sVADPYcqU7lHfs7A5HtbxMDMI7A+MAfOYa83GV1GJy8= Message-ID: <64b81a780604261800q2d74fb4o2f883275516123e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:00:08 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) In-Reply-To: <005701c66984$a76ee4e0$f5b95545@Biffoz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <40D0C2E3.9020602@soundscapes.us> <782DDDB4-CC22-11D8-8E24-000A95CA68EC@boysen.se> <005701c66984$a76ee4e0$f5b95545@Biffoz> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:00:10 +0000 (UTC) What I want to know is when we'll get our matching racing-stripe leisure-suits with the LD logo & "Feedback 100%" on the back? Screw T-shirts! Think of how the women will throw themselves at us! Oh wait....that's right....the women will be throwing up on us. My mistake. nevermind. :) Todd On 4/26/06, Miko Biffle wrote: > From: "Per Boysen" > Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) > > > > On 2 jul 2004, at 14.22, Per Boysen wrote: > > > > > http://www.gamlavykort.nu/artiklar/dansband/ > > > > > > Greetings from Sweden ;-) > > Wow! There's not ONE pic where the outfits don't match... astounding! Fou= rth > pic down... The pink tops with the HUGE floppy collars really kills me... > Now are YOU in any of these pics? (Wish I could understand the text.) > > Thanks Per! > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 01:15:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E01603BED3; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <20060426215113.3746.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060426215113.3746.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-13-289607724 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: vote for me! Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:15:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:15:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-13-289607724 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > Also, Hippy gives me gas. Sorry. Due to the rising price of gas, logic tells me to vote for hippies! Of course, I didn't NEED this data to do so... but it did spur me on. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 26-Apr-06, at 2:51 PM, mark sottilaro wrote: > --- David Gans wrote: > >> >> >> >> Greetings - >> >> My name is on a poll at jambands.com, asking the >> question >> >> "Which of these artists do you believe most >> consistently fails to >> receive the critical praise it warrants?" >> >> I'd appreciate it if you'd click on me! >> >> http://www.jambands.com/Jambands250/ >> >> >> >> >> P.S. I've got another loop jam up on my site - >> featuring Darol >> Anger. See http://www.dgans.com/tunes.html >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >> Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, >> Oakland CA 94610-2730 >> Blog: http://playback.trufun.com >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > --Apple-Mail-13-289607724 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Also, Hippy gives me gas. Sorry. Due to the rising price of gas, logic tells me to vote for hippies! Of course, I didn't NEED this data to do so... but it did spur me on. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 26-Apr-06, at 2:51 PM, mark sottilaro wrote: --- David Gans < wrote: Greetings - My name is on a poll at jambands.com, asking the question "Which of these artists do you believe most consistently fails to receive the critical praise it warrants?" I'd appreciate it if you'd click on me! http://www.jambands.com/Jambands250/ P.S. I've got another loop jam up on my site - featuring Darol Anger. See http://www.dgans.com/tunes.html -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --Apple-Mail-13-289607724-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 01:22:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDC053BEDC; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1af201c66999$15adeaf0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <003601c66982$9b29a320$f5b95545@Biffoz> <1ac901c66985$ae5d8850$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <006701c6698b$ae3ad660$f5b95545@Biffoz> Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:22:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 544, in=285962, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:22:46 +0000 (UTC) I'll make this quick, Mike, so as to not propagate this thread much longer and use up too much bandwidth. Basically, as you say, this is currently a discussion about which system people prefer. That's an honest and straightforward enough question. I'll grant that. However, I'm advocating at this point that the discussion shift from the "show n' tell" of personal preferences to a pragmatic discussion of how the diverse needs of this community (the ultimate stakeholder here, not one person, I assume) can be met by a single system. After while, the response after response of "I like this, I dislike that" becomes tiresome to me personally, unless it starts to shift to a realistic and workable solution, or at least the idea of one. I can't satisfy you by snapping my fingers and making this system pop out of nowhere, but I can make an observation on the practicality of this thread and suggest a change to something more productive. That's my choice of expression here. If you want to call it brainstorming, fair enough....whatever semantics you want to choose to suggest something mutually beneficial to the community. If I came across as condescending or talking down to you, I apologize, for that was not my intention. I was hoping you'd break through the opacity of my sarcasm, but I guess you don't know me well enough. Carry on...perhaps this can be the world's longest thread and comprehensive categorization of personal preferences on email/web forum systems. K- [massive snip] From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 01:26:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AE1B3BEDC; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20060426215113.3746.qmail@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:20:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: vote for me! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1066021301==_ma============" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:26:39 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1066021301==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 6:15 PM -0700 4/26/06, Richard Sales wrote: >Due to the rising price of gas, logic tells me to vote for hippies! > >Of course, I didn't NEED this data to do so... but it did spur me on. I appreciate it, Richard. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com --============_-1066021301==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: vote for me!
At 6:15 PM -0700 4/26/06, Richard Sales wrote:
Due to the rising price of gas, logic tells me to vote for hippies!

Of course, I didn't NEED this data to do so... but it did spur me on.

I appreciate it, Richard.



--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://playback.trufun.com
--============_-1066021301==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 01:44:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E2213BEDC; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:46:56 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: show: Walpurgisnoise, 30 Apr, Raleigh NC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Walpurgisnoise: Long Day's Journey Into Night Date / Time: 30 Apr 2006 (Sunday), noon to eight pm. Venue URL: http://www.badgerhaus.com/ I am playing a long-form improvisational dark ambient performance this Sunday, to begin at noon and continue until sunset - 8:01pm by the ephemeris I checked. Touchstones or buzzwords for the performance: ambient, dark, atmospheric, drone, soundscape, improvisational, looping, experimental, ritual, minimal, open format, collaborative. Performance will be at badgerhaus (Raleigh NC) - write offlist for directions if you're in the area, haven't been here, and would like to come and either listen or join in. Additional performers and collaborators are welcomed. Again, email me to discuss details. regards, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ Badgerhaus http://www.badgerhaus.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 01:52:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDB6C3BEE7; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749) In-Reply-To: <20060426224834.71807.qmail@web33804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060426224834.71807.qmail@web33804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:52:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749) X-Server-Quench: 70b1cf73-d590-11da-b770-001185d377ca X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1.47/Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: <5MtCjD.A.QaF.MPCUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:52:12 +0000 (UTC) well i think the matching outfits could be seen as a form of looping.... On Apr 26, 2006, at 3:48 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > > Are you posting it here because they all loop? Do they laptop or > are they more into floor pedals? How come there are no audio links? > > ;-) > > > ted harms. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 02:20:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B2C33BEE9; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jMRkNtNjEPUGeCWvnRvbcaBvzQPUG7rxr/8NZApj23VANu46whPL72GAWMKDASa6mRt93NViN5i1onah6UrzsPmepfChkebeTgkqm06ozlQ61ts8JT0wBHtgydAeHqNY8MKBjY3q0gPXqSUpto8gjczOaN9aoEqfD/IoomMeEpw= ; Message-ID: <20060427022038.6149.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:20:38 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: dangerous ideals To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:20:40 +0000 (UTC) there is nothing more dangerous than an idea if its the only one you have...i love fortune cookies! to the future, silly scarynary. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 02:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A92693BEE9; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=muCevd171OF/UpxTmsqGBCprs6oaOQEIS8xqoRiAnbsDfXBhgjMbC8a4m3rTFWGJDHFV0FLT8zwH35Xka7HCpoGqmY//ukgvrJWLMdz0QUjWYkLo5Am7hNpM1hSMIeia9twa5p3a2Hhqv/0+2nd+O0haonGVdfVl4AqMCXuc28w= ; Message-ID: <20060427024833.21907.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:48:33 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: vote for me! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:48:45 +0000 (UTC) ok David,remember what Vito Corleone told the mortician on the day of his daughters wedding?as i know nothing of this poll you mention i will give you the benefit of the doubt...some day you may receive a request that is an offer you cant refuse.(hold this heavy backpack while the officer walks by)psyche-ill grant your request just because you ask so nicely and i liked the sounds. from the past, scary. --- David Gans wrote: > > > > Greetings - > > My name is on a poll at jambands.com, asking the > question > > "Which of these artists do you believe most > consistently fails to > receive the critical praise it warrants?" > > I'd appreciate it if you'd click on me! > > http://www.jambands.com/Jambands250/ > > > > > P.S. I've got another loop jam up on my site - > featuring Darol > Anger. See http://www.dgans.com/tunes.html > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, > Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 02:53:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98F8A3BEE8; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=l8A08UjZxoeIPCrRkbkzMDCwyJyMRXVVpTngPXAb0GD/7mBXXxn2Oo9pB27T5oYDWvdc9Ygqt3/mxIzGTnPHzYSB+2+GXjWFchEp0eBBHsJQrs20AWhxD2n5QM/73hllNzsu7xxt1zWL70uQZwx0Ss9xbxatr+JHU6P3neIKf0U= ; Message-ID: <20060427025318.57770.qmail@web37911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:53:18 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: vote for me! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20060427024833.21907.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:53:19 +0000 (UTC) your lucky ekoostic hookah wasnt on the list...lol --- daniel stevenson wrote: > ok David,remember what Vito Corleone told the > mortician on the day of his daughters wedding?as i > know nothing of this poll you mention i will give > you > the benefit of the doubt...some day you may receive > a > request that is an offer you cant refuse.(hold this > heavy backpack while the officer walks by)psyche-ill > grant your request just because you ask so nicely > and > i liked the sounds. > from the past, > scary. > > --- David Gans wrote: > > > > > > > > > Greetings - > > > > My name is on a poll at jambands.com, asking the > > question > > > > "Which of these artists do you believe most > > consistently fails to > > receive the critical praise it warrants?" > > > > I'd appreciate it if you'd click on me! > > > > http://www.jambands.com/Jambands250/ > > > > > > > > > > P.S. I've got another loop jam up on my site - > > featuring Darol > > Anger. See http://www.dgans.com/tunes.html > > > > > > > > -- > > > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, > > Oakland CA 94610-2730 > > Blog: http://playback.trufun.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 03:16:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 209B13BED9; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060427024833.21907.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060427024833.21907.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:12:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: vote for me! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:16:44 +0000 (UTC) At 7:48 PM -0700 4/26/06, daniel stevenson wrote: >ok David,remember what Vito Corleone told the >mortician on the day of his daughters wedding?as i >know nothing of this poll you mention i will give you >the benefit of the doubt...some day you may receive a >request that is an offer you cant refuse.(hold this >heavy backpack while the officer walks by)psyche-ill >grant your request just because you ask so nicely and >i liked the sounds. It wouldn't be the first time I was left holding the bag! Thanks for your vote. Like all online polls, it's bogus and easily gamed. But it's great PR for me to be at the top of the list for however long I last up there. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 03:16:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 239873BEEE; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060427025318.57770.qmail@web37911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060427025318.57770.qmail@web37911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:12:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: vote for me! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:16:45 +0000 (UTC) At 7:53 PM -0700 4/26/06, daniel stevenson wrote: >your lucky ekoostic hookah wasnt on the list...lol Careful - they're friends of mine! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 06:23:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EB493BEE6; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [84.68.131.154] X-Originating-User: [garethwhittock] Message-ID: From: "gareth whittock" To: References: <20060426183046.69881.qmail@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: AW: [LOOP] OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 07:23:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Maybe they actually give a damn about their fellow citizens. Why there are still >> highly-qualified people >> residing in Germany is beyond me. >> >> Rainer >> >> > All i can tell u is that i love the German health >> care >> > system,nearly everyone residing in Germany is >> guaranteed >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 08:43:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2057C3BEDE; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44508437.9010106@dadaprod.org> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:43:35 +0200 From: sonic steph User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vote for me! References: <20060427024833.21907.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.185.83.201 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: fait|type 1&3|0.0|H 0.500009 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Excuse me David for this, but the system of vote is as stupid as this tribune for new talent where winning bands are the one who receive the most clapping where is the emotion? the fact that you try to create a non representative vote is like this myspace bloody friends, where people create hundred of fake account in order to have more firends and then to have more audience.. so clap your hand, say stop! stephane David Gans a écrit : > At 7:48 PM -0700 4/26/06, daniel stevenson wrote: >> ok David,remember what Vito Corleone told the >> mortician on the day of his daughters wedding?as i >> know nothing of this poll you mention i will give you >> the benefit of the doubt...some day you may receive a >> request that is an offer you cant refuse.(hold this >> heavy backpack while the officer walks by)psyche-ill >> grant your request just because you ask so nicely and >> i liked the sounds. > > It wouldn't be the first time I was left holding the bag! > > Thanks for your vote. Like all online polls, it's bogus and easily > gamed. But it's great PR for me to be at the top of the list for > however long I last up there. > > > -- _____________________________________________________________________ plateforme de téléchargement libre, label autogéré, média indépendant ----------------------- http://www.dadaprod.org _____________________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 10:32:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C30873BEDE; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:32:35 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <44509DC3.7060405@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:32:17 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ================================================================================ Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Today, I will be fund raising and will have all sorts of CDs that are appropriate to my show to use as thank you gifts for people who pledge their support. So tune in and pledge big! GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ================================================================================ Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Sequences electronic music magazine. The Featured CD at Midnight will be the CD from issue #31. The Vinyl Starter will be "Deluxe" by Harmonia on Brain Records and released in 1975. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2006/focus.html#apr Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and on the internet. WDIY now simulcasts on WXLV on 90.3 FM in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania. All times are EDT / GMT-4 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 16:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A13B3BEDE; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <44508437.9010106@dadaprod.org> References: <20060427024833.21907.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44508437.9010106@dadaprod.org> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:01:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: vote for me! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:02:07 +0000 (UTC) I know it's completely bogus, just like those online polls at CNN and MSNBC, but it's good publicity for me to be at the top of the results for a day or so. At 10:43 AM +0200 4/27/06, sonic steph wrote: > >Excuse me David for this, but the system of vote is as stupid as >this tribune for new talent where winning bands are the one who >receive the most clapping > >where is the emotion? > >the fact that you try to create a non representative vote is like >this myspace bloody friends, where people create hundred of fake >account in order to have more firends and then to have more >audience.. > >so clap your hand, say stop! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 17:49:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C86463BEDC; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44510418.6030700@hushmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:49:12 -0400 From: Jim Shepherd Reply-To: jmshepherd@hushmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) References: <20060426224834.71807.qmail@web33804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Or a cry for help... Zoe Keating wrote: > well i think the matching outfits could be seen as a form of looping.... > > On Apr 26, 2006, at 3:48 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > >> >> Are you posting it here because they all loop? Do they laptop or are >> they more into floor pedals? How come there are no audio links? >> >> ;-) >> >> >> ted harms. >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 17:58:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99D853BEF0; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TrA3JvXurLXX42DNHT37kMuAJ71+vhJ2XGFb7CbG7JQhNMwouX582PIXbT78/QXzZ5/BhLunDtF5eTK7IELR5hFdz0wk+8jvCRfwjcTCZjLP/SLsjIxT7HfDTxq663qlY10/IdiswrjrtZGzBQjocbXEGuhECffmhETDp9VZWt0= Message-ID: <2665e0c50604271058q6b9569ecm5c27383b1bad9259@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:58:19 -0500 From: "Ben M" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks In-Reply-To: <1af201c66999$15adeaf0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14767_4773410.1146160699059" References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <003601c66982$9b29a320$f5b95545@Biffoz> <1ac901c66985$ae5d8850$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <006701c6698b$ae3ad660$f5b95545@Biffoz> <1af201c66999$15adeaf0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:58:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14767_4773410.1146160699059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Seriously guys, you are making me want to kill myself here. Somebody make = a message board and whoever wants to use it can use it, and be done with it! ------=_Part_14767_4773410.1146160699059 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Seriously guys, you are making me want to kill myself here.  Somebody = make a message board and whoever wants to use it can use it, and be done wi= th it! ------=_Part_14767_4773410.1146160699059-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 18:03:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1879D3BEF4; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gvJNxY8tnTozlNqC+KVelWmuv1rqHi7oQ5emRVXjGEq2MLbCM5Ca/iv8azkBwrWsqnV0AlibSc46Q6/4Y9f6CgYy24zjxPgkqqrO9DOExt3mitv9COf7t/Nq1YnOKBupsnrWZa2KkmZtGetKRhG3M6LgnN+yvL/SOg/O8GWV15M= Message-ID: <2665e0c50604271103k6f053579q87e7abe0efdf711a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:03:09 -0500 From: "Ben M" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) In-Reply-To: <2665e0c50604271101k6d9bc37cpa19887bdd847eafd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14911_29949375.1146160989226" References: <20060426224834.71807.qmail@web33804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44510418.6030700@hushmail.com> <2665e0c50604271101k6d9bc37cpa19887bdd847eafd@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7eOgoD.A.jeG.edQUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:03:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14911_29949375.1146160989226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline But the real question is whether or not we shall coordinate our loop-suits on a mailing list or a message board. P.S. "Feedpack 100%" had me laughing for an hour. --Ben ------=_Part_14911_29949375.1146160989226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
But the real question is whether or not we shall coordinate our loop-s= uits on a mailing list or a message board.
 
P.S.  "Feedpack 100%" had me laughing for an hour.
 
--Ben
------=_Part_14911_29949375.1146160989226-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 18:05:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E05743BEF7; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kUK8tmdL0IF7IKkzyYPKYZvOS/PxQmH7qONge117f6FcLzU+73ecoqJ6MtCW2HN3p9oDvBumAT60Vn1N0QJQQmrm8NQvyU+RuNg5dq8EF2neytJtEmtICExNkpqdofCZ5txmIBqUWfNM3LVSGrWuJxOlpS6MBnc2fresyblaZRU= Message-ID: <2665e0c50604271105q150aa716y5ee7481c147f4281@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:05:00 -0500 From: "Ben M" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: dangerous ideals In-Reply-To: <20060427022038.6149.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15159_24722807.1146161100225" References: <20060427022038.6149.qmail@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:05:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15159_24722807.1146161100225 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The best fortune cookie I ever got said, "You are handsome!" It convinced me that forutne cookies are full of lies! ------=_Part_15159_24722807.1146161100225 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
The best fortune cookie I ever got said, "You are handsome!"=   It convinced me that forutne cookies are full of lies!
  ------=_Part_15159_24722807.1146161100225-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 18:25:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED8943BEE9; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009e01c66a27$ef9fbd90$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <15e501c668a1$57276220$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <02c401c668a9$df89a760$6401a8c0@PORTABLE> <444FDD66.6070809@addcom.de> <1a5501c66974$687d9020$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <003601c66982$9b29a320$f5b95545@Biffoz> <1ac901c66985$ae5d8850$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <006701c6698b$ae3ad660$f5b95545@Biffoz> <1af201c66999$15adeaf0$6db1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <2665e0c50604271058q6b9569ecm5c27383b1bad9259@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:25:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009B_01C669F5.A4837360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 545, in=286631, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:25:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C669F5.A4837360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Seriously guys, you are making me want to kill myself here. Somebody = make a message board and whoever wants to use it can use it, and be done = with it!=20 Well, I just throw a few ideas out here and see where it goes. Someone = already mentioned this, and I'm not proposing that we migrate to these = tools, only using them as examples of what's possible and how they can = meet both email and web-user needs. Google Groups: Web interface; you can receive email rather than going to = the interface; you can choose individual email, digest mode, abridged, = or nothing as your email receiving options; it is searchable on the web = interface; you can manage multiple subscriptions; you can sort messages = on the web by date; you can view them in sequence or as a thread tree Yahoo Groups: Web interface; basically the same features as above, with = some minor variations (email can be individual, digest, none, or special = notices); plus a lot of the features like file storage, pictures, chat, = calendar, polls, database, etc What else is out there that can do both email and web-based? I suppose = there are the good ol' fashion Usenet groups...they do both email and = web-interface, except that the web-interface is very basic and text = driven. I used to use them a lot on UNIX machines. Once you set yourself up on one of these systems, you don't even have to = use the web interface again if you don't want to. Essentially, from a = user standpoint, you would received emails just like in LD, except you = have the choice of going to the web interface to take advantage of more = features. So, the question to some of you folks who prefer email only. With a = system like Google or Yahoo Groups, once you got setup and were = receiving ONLY emails in digest, individual mode, or abridged, what's = the difference between that and what you are getting now with the LD = list? Thoughts? Truly set aside the fact that the emails you are = receiving are coming from a web system that you don't have to touch = except to get on the list initially or change your messaging = options...does that meet your needs? If not, then what is missing? Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ben M=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Message Board: no thanks Seriously guys, you are making me want to kill myself here. Somebody = make a message board and whoever wants to use it can use it, and be done = with it! ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C669F5.A4837360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Seriously guys, you are making me want to kill myself = here. =20 Somebody make a message board and whoever wants to use it can use it, = and be=20 done with it!
 
Well, I just throw a few ideas out here = and see=20 where it goes. Someone already mentioned this, and I'm not proposing = that we=20 migrate to these tools, only using them as examples of what's possible = and how=20 they can meet both email and web-user needs.
 
Google Groups: Web = interface; you=20 can receive email rather than going to the interface; you can choose = individual=20 email, digest mode, abridged, or nothing as your email receiving = options; it is=20 searchable on the web interface; you can manage multiple subscriptions; = you can=20 sort messages on the web by date; you can view them in sequence or as a = thread=20 tree
 
Yahoo Groups: Web = interface;=20 basically the same features as above, with some minor variations (email = can be=20 individual, digest, none, or special notices); plus a lot of the = features like=20 file storage, pictures, chat, calendar, polls, database, = etc
 
What else is out there that can do both = email and=20 web-based? I suppose there are the good ol' fashion Usenet groups...they = do both=20 email and web-interface, except that the web-interface is very basic and = text=20 driven. I used to use them a lot on UNIX machines.
 
Once you set yourself up on one of = these systems,=20 you don't even have to use the web interface again if you don't want to. = Essentially, from a user standpoint, you would received emails just like = in LD,=20 except you have the choice of going to the web interface to take = advantage of=20 more features.
 
So, the question to some of you folks = who prefer=20 email only. With a system like Google or Yahoo Groups, once you got = setup and=20 were receiving ONLY emails in digest, individual mode, or abridged, = what's=20 the difference between that and what you are getting now with the LD = list? =20 Thoughts?  Truly set aside the fact that the emails you are = receiving are=20 coming from a web system that you don't have to touch except to get on = the list=20 initially or change your messaging options...does that meet your = needs?  If=20 not, then what is missing?
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ben M=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 = 11:58=20 AM
Subject: Re: Message Board: no=20 thanks

Seriously guys, you are making me want to kill myself=20 here.  Somebody make a message board and whoever wants to use it = can use=20 it, and be done with it! ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C669F5.A4837360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 27 19:00:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B252E3BEE0; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Pu/IuweFZJYG5ccW5JAeDtM2MUU4IPul3gfP+iQzAYCHNy8+unbg+vFTiU5wUHB++QBjT+bj6oOut1/8aU7Rwy8gaQkBa7DxrJRmyAjJZfrQJkXAlaa9+8D9UtfVbNLkeHqoPyRRFX6cbm9OAdNDpCHG9LLchFC8KQOnA4XZ0MM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <2665e0c50604271103k6f053579q87e7abe0efdf711a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060426224834.71807.qmail@web33804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44510418.6030700@hushmail.com> <2665e0c50604271101k6d9bc37cpa19887bdd847eafd@mail.gmail.com> <2665e0c50604271103k6f053579q87e7abe0efdf711a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <039E1717-B049-47CC-8496-5E9DAA212F5C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:00:13 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:00:16 +0000 (UTC) On 27 apr 2006, at 20.03, Ben M wrote: > P.S. "Feedpack 100%" had me laughing for an hour. I've always thought "Feedback 112%" would be cool. Extra cool with that pink collar ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 04:01:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C40BA3BED0; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 04:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gDWO9p3z/1vzB3LGnEx7I2wCRrZ/FfkR2HocQBKCdtHSipwKXBbX73u0uSt1b6g0dvCbR/r4t+HIQfX7anJ9BW6WCAtNg7gLcJZS8u8T1XAWOUfF3NF8SEcJe2Rr7GfzcOCVpJm167ETIKlGwz6+myPl9UO5BchBqTSrsJtHcfg= Message-ID: <2665e0c50604272101y44fbfe70l327c5c2528c1e08e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:01:13 -0500 From: "Ben M" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sweden's hottest musicians ;-) In-Reply-To: <039E1717-B049-47CC-8496-5E9DAA212F5C@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20572_16580070.1146196873259" References: <20060426224834.71807.qmail@web33804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44510418.6030700@hushmail.com> <2665e0c50604271101k6d9bc37cpa19887bdd847eafd@mail.gmail.com> <2665e0c50604271103k6f053579q87e7abe0efdf711a@mail.gmail.com> <039E1717-B049-47CC-8496-5E9DAA212F5C@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 04:01:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20572_16580070.1146196873259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The worst part about Feedback 100% or even Feedback 112% is that there is n= o one in the entire world except for the dozens of geeks on this list that would ever understand it as a joke! Ever! Seriously, you all laugh now but I am totally going to make t-shirts for al= l of us. That would be pretty sweet. ben ------=_Part_20572_16580070.1146196873259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
The worst part about Feedback 100% or even Feedback 112% is that there= is no one in the entire world except for the dozens of geeks on this list = that would ever understand it as a joke!  Ever!
 
Seriously, you all laugh now but I am totally going to make t-shirts f= or all of us.  That would be pretty sweet.
 
ben
------=_Part_20572_16580070.1146196873259-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 07:38:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A89E3BEE0; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4451C685.8010405@addcom.de> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:38:45 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT -- A GUITARISTS SECOND WORST NIGHTMARE References: <000601c665ce$afe24db0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:38:50 +0000 (UTC) tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: > DANG, DANG, DANG, DAGNBBIT! I just want to chime in and wish you a fast recovery, I just came across a quote of one of my alltime favorite bass players Hellmut Hattler which seems to fit perfectly... Musik ist der Rauch, der entsteht, wenn ein Musiker sich verbrennt. It translates to: Music is the smoke which emerges when a musician burns (himself). In German both meanings (with and without brackets) are included within the same words. Too bad I can't be in Boise If you couldn't play I'd put your cries into my loops... Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 07:58:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4E3F3BED8; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4451CB26.3070006@addcom.de> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:58:30 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vote for me! References: <20060427024833.21907.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44508437.9010106@dadaprod.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:58:33 +0000 (UTC) David Gans wrote: > > I know it's completely bogus, just like those online polls at CNN and > MSNBC, but it's good publicity for me to be at the top of the results > for a day or so. Nobody can beat you anymore, it doesn't say anything about the music, but a lot about your community... Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 08:11:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 271C53BEE9; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ORBL: [63.192.37.243] Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20060427225326.08f51040@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:11:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: References: <913728d60604240801y211ad66avdeda1b53b38c999@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:11:33 +0000 (UTC) At 08:06 AM 4/24/2006, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: >Just wondering- is there any reason why there is no LD Message Board? Yes, there is a reason. It has nothing to do with personal preferences. Neither mine, nor yours, nor anybody else's. It also has nothing to do with technology. It has everything to do with community. How communities form, how people interact with each other, how communities sustain or fade out. I started using online networked environments in the 80's. I was fascinated by the possibilities they offered to allow new communities to form, and the possibilities for new methods of communication. Over many years of using these environments, I observed that the interface and method for the communication had a huge effect on how people interacted, and the type of communities they did or did not form. Bulletin boards, group chat, instant messaging, mailing lists, video conferencing, newsgroups, etc., all turn out differently. Even subtle things can have a significant impact. With mailing lists, for example, factors like bounce/digest, moderation, posting rules, even whether the "reply-to" field is set to the list address or the poster's address, all affect the way people communicate in different ways. Some formats turn out ugly, and result if a lot of flaming, or trolls, or whatever. But some turn out wonderfully, when applied the right way. So, the reason for choosing one interface or another should really depend on the application and the type of communication desired. Is the goal more of a friendly community, where people are a little chatty and get to know each other over a long time? Is it just for posting announcements or ads? Technical question and answers with a minimum of nonsense? Customer support? A good place to chat people up and try to get a date? A different format will work better in each case. Choosing the wrong format usually results in failure. When I wanted to start a community around looping, my goal was to form a community. I hoped people would spend extended time there, and get to know one another. I wanted people to share information and collaborate on projects together. I wanted people to spend time to teach one another about looping. I wanted people to have serious, thoughtful, and respectful discussions. I wanted it to last. I wanted a community of interested people to build the whole idea of looping into something much bigger than it was. I had long observed that mailing lists work very well in forming strong communities, and that is what I wanted to do. So the fundamental format I chose for this nascent looping community is the mailing list. I set up LD as a bounce list, with the reply-to set to the list address. There is no moderation, but you can't post unless you are a subscriber. There are no explicit rules about what can be posted. There is a web archive that saves all discussion, and makes it freely available to the world. (there is also a digest, which I wasn't too thrilled to create and still think was a somewhat bad idea.) All of these choices were made with a lot of thought. Mailing lists have continuity. People mostly don't drop in and disappear, they usually stick around for a while. Email lists appeal to people's natural inertia. If people do nothing, the messages still go to them. So people get to know one another. Email encourages more thoughtful discussion. Bounce lists are more active. Lack of moderation encourages more individual sense of ownership and responsibility for the community. Reply-to set to the list makes things a little more chatty and fun. None of these choices were accidents, or made without purpose. I thought about each one and made the choice in order to form the kind of community I envisioned. And so in 1996 I started Looper's Delight, and a whole bunch of interested people showed up and started communicating in a new way, and we all built this remarkable community. Looper's Delight is almost 10 years old. We've made good friends, we've had numerous great festivals, we've recorded many amazing albums, we shared a lot of knowledge, we shared a lot of music, we've gone to see one another perform, we guided manufacturers to make products for us, we created a huge archive of knowledge, sometimes we've argued and disagreed, mostly we've supported each other in all manner of ways, and most important, we've developed looping far beyond what any of us ever thought it could be. I'm really proud of all that. And I'm really convinced, now more than ever, that the choices I made in forming this community were correct. In my world, there is no better proof than success. So no, I'm not at all interested in converting LD into a message board. I think that idea is destructive to our community. I also think it is hurtful to the group when people try to create some separate forum. It always feels like an attempt to split our community up. That's why the reactions from so many people in the community to these ideas are usually so hostile. People like the community we have here. The don't want to see it broken up or damaged. And by the way, the idea that message boards are somehow more "modern" is laughably wrong. As someone else noted, even in the 80's bulletin board systems following that approach were very sophisticated. Email was relatively primitive at that time, and was little better than a command line or unix shell interface. There is not really anything new about message boards today other than slicker graphics and php code. Most of them seem to be actually worse in user interface than the average BBS you could have joined 15-20 years ago. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 10:23:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA0B73BED0; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ef01c66aad$c584d0a0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:23:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Please forgive the shameless self promotion but I was excited to have my Maker Faire performance last Sunday reviewed by columnist David Battino of the O'Reilly Digital Media website. He even took a short movie clip of the performance. www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2006/04/junk_in_the_loop_pool.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 10:55:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03B553BEE0; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00f901c66ab2$3aab0fd0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <00ef01c66aad$c584d0a0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:55:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2006 10:53:39.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[01D38480:01C66AB2] Resent-Message-ID: <1LTPpB.A.Xw.YSfUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, what a a pity that the movie is so short, but thanks for sharing this. fabio http://xoomer.virgilio.it/eterogeneo/ http://xoomer.virgilio.it/eterogeneo/VIDEO http://music.download.com/eterogeneo/3600-8357-100294444.html?tag=quickurl ----- Original Message ----- From: "loop.pool" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site > Please forgive the shameless self promotion but > I was excited to have my Maker Faire performance last Sunday > reviewed by columnist David Battino of the O'Reilly Digital Media > website. > > He even took a short movie clip of the performance. > > www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2006/04/junk_in_the_loop_pool.html > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 13:06:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C93813BED9; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060427225326.08f51040@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:05:14 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/28/2006 09:06:12 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 684CCC821VC1873412-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Without belaboring the point too much: >>>>>>When I wanted to start a community around looping, my goal was to form a community. I hoped people would spend extended time there, and get to know one another. I wanted people to share information and collaborate on projects together. I wanted people to spend time to teach one another about looping. I wanted people to have serious, thoughtful, and respectful discussions. I wanted it to last. I wanted a community of interested people to build the whole idea of looping into something much bigger than it was. I am a part of many Message boards that have all these aspects. Creating a commuinty is far from the exclusive domain of email lists. >>>>>>>>I think that idea is destructive to our community. I also think it is hurtful to the group when people try to create some separate forum. It always feels like an attempt to split our community up. I think this might be a bit of an overreaction. It's a big world with a lot of Loopers. I don't see how a message board devoted to looping (again- I am NOT talking about LD, since it's clear most of the people here are not interested in a board-based forum- I am talking about if someone were to start a completely independent board devoted to looping)- could in any way, shape, or form be detrimental to the world community of looping musicians. No offense, but the preceeding statement certainly seems to imply that the LD mailing list is the be all & end all of the looping world, and quite frankly, it's not. I understand that you've worked on and created this list from nothing, and I very much appreciate the information & community available here. But to imply that it's a somehow negative action for someone else to attempt to begin simply a different format of communication between musicians is just downright silly, IMO. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 13:10:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7AC23BED8; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <24347165.1146229846228.JavaMail.root@web28> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 6:10:46 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board Cc: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Throw this guy in the LD gulag! -- Paul Richards ---- Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > Without belaboring the point too much: > > > >>>>>>When I wanted to start a community around looping, my goal was to > form a > community. I hoped people would spend extended time there, and get to know > one another. I wanted people to share information and collaborate on > projects together. I wanted people to spend time to teach one another about > > looping. I wanted people to have serious, thoughtful, and respectful > discussions. I wanted it to last. I wanted a community of interested people > > to build the whole idea of looping into something much bigger than it was. > > > I am a part of many Message boards that have all these aspects. Creating a > commuinty is far from the exclusive domain of email lists. > > > >>>>>>>>I think that idea is destructive to our community. I also think it > is hurtful > to the group when people try to create some separate forum. It always feels > > like an attempt to split our community up. > > > I think this might be a bit of an overreaction. It's a big world with a lot > of Loopers. I don't see how a message board devoted to looping (again- I am > NOT talking about LD, since it's clear most of the people here are not > interested in a board-based forum- I am talking about if someone were to > start a completely independent board devoted to looping)- could in any way, > shape, or form be detrimental to the world community of looping musicians. > No offense, but the preceeding statement certainly seems to imply that the > LD mailing list is the be all & end all of the looping world, and quite > frankly, it's not. I understand that you've worked on and created this list > from nothing, and I very much appreciate the information & community > available here. But to imply that it's a somehow negative action for > someone else to attempt to begin simply a different format of communication > between musicians is just downright silly, IMO. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 13:12:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B12943BEEA; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <24347165.1146229846228.JavaMail.root@web28> Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:12:13 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/28/2006 09:13:11 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 684CCB211VC1876610-03-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5SkkpB.A.-TF.TThUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:12:51 +0000 (UTC) >>>>> Throw this guy in the LD gulag! Why? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 13:16:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C34B93BEE0; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:15:13 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J153d.641aS.09cdM" Message-Id: <20060428.061534.27535.828914@webmail05.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:1:37187637 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5BY7sLaZSFSccI1flehc3hlgBTOd8e9hLg== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.145|webmail05.nyc.untd.com|webmail05.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:16:37 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J153d.641aS.09cdM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain Hi Rick, Very nice sounds! Love the blue shoes, very nice visual effect! = weg ----__JWM__J153d.641aS.09cdM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

Hi Rick,

   Very nice sounds!  Love the blue shoes, very nice v= isual effect!

 

weg

----__JWM__J153d.641aS.09cdM-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 13:20:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 495103BEE9; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:22:34 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site In-reply-to: <00ef01c66aad$c584d0a0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000001c66ac6$cfa9abf0$0202a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Right on! That wacky clip made my day... Best wishes, Warren Sirota > -----Original Message----- > From: loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 6:23 AM > To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) > Subject: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site > > > Please forgive the shameless self promotion but > I was excited to have my Maker Faire performance last Sunday > reviewed by columnist David Battino of the O'Reilly Digital Media > website. > > He even took a short movie clip of the performance. > > www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2006/04/junk_in_the_loop_ pool.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 14:11:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4E813BEF3; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <4451CB26.3070006@addcom.de> References: <20060427024833.21907.qmail@web37910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44508437.9010106@dadaprod.org> <4451CB26.3070006@addcom.de> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-422571574 Message-Id: <41a415df01f71c821fed357240cd4b11@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: vote for me! Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:11:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:11:49 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-422571574 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Beautifully spoken, Stefan richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 28-Apr-06, at 12:58 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > David Gans wrote: >> I know it's completely bogus, just like those online polls at CNN and >> MSNBC, but it's good publicity for me to be at the top of the results >> for a day or so. > > Nobody can beat you anymore, it doesn't say anything about the music, > but a lot about your community... > > Stefan > > -- > > [][] [][][] [][] [][][] > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] > > Stefan Tiedje > Klanggestalter > Electronic Composition > & > Improvisation > > /~~~~~\ > \\\ /|() ()|\ > ))))) )| | |( \\\ > /// \ \_/)/ ))))) > \___/ /// > > -------------------------x---- > --_____-----------|----------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- > -- _|_)----|-----()----------- > ----------()------------x----- > > 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, > 94320 Thiais, France > Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 > --Apple-Mail-1-422571574 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Beautifully spoken, Stefan Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 28-Apr-06, at 12:58 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: David Gans wrote: I know it's completely bogus, just like those online polls at CNN and MSNBC, but it's good publicity for me to be at the top of the results for a day or so. Nobody can beat you anymore, it doesn't say anything about the music, but a lot about your community... Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09 --Apple-Mail-1-422571574-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 14:18:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE1AB3BEEE; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <22591182.1146233908772.JavaMail.root@web27> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 7:18:28 -0700 From: paulrichard10@adelphia.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board Cc: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:18:29 +0000 (UTC) For not having a sense of humor. -- Paul Richards ---- Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > >>>>> > Throw this guy in the LD gulag! > > > > Why? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 14:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 378753BEE0; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:45:25 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J5025.2473S.0161M" Message-Id: <20060428.074600.23941.827573@webmail25.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:1:3227061028 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5BY7sLaZSFScgdZuoIRYmKovl1SXVw8e0Q== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.165|webmail25.nyc.untd.com|webmail25.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:47:06 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J5025.2473S.0161M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain Well Said Kim, And thank you for you insite, some of us old timers can appreciate you= r experience. At one time I programmed on Key Punch cards..... message= boards have been around longer, I remember using an old VAX system for = emails between schools... seems like eons ago... must be allowing myself= to get old.... This IS a great community, thank you! = Weg ----__JWM__J5025.2473S.0161M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

Well Said Kim,

  And thank you for you insite, some of us old timers can apprec= iate your experience.  At one time I programmed on Key Punch cards.= ....  message boards have been around longer, I remember using an o= ld VAX system for emails between schools... seems like eons ago... must = be allowing myself to get old....  This IS a great community, thank= you!

 

Weg

----__JWM__J5025.2473S.0161M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 15:51:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B2403BEDE; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <026a01c66adb$98e16c10$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Boise Experimental Music Festival Streaming Tonight and Tomorrow! Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:51:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0267_01C66AA9.4DC521E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-SpamDetect: *: 1.500000 Poly=1.0,Some tags-to-text=0.5 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 546, in=287487, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:51:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0267_01C66AA9.4DC521E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Boise Experimental Music Festival Streaming Tonight and tomorrow! http://www.radioboise.org/ (click on "Listen Here") The first performance starts on tonight (Friday) at 7pm MST US time, or = 9pm EST US time (Boston), or 6pm PST (California), or 1:00am Greenwich = Mean Time (GMT), or 2:00am in London. On Saturday, the first performance starts at 1:00pm MST US time, or 6pm = Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 7pm (London) and the music goes for 10 = hours. Schedule Time Event/Performance Stage/Location=20 7:00 - 7:10pm Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa Balk Stimpert - Event Kickoff and communication of festival schedule, logistics, = etc Center Stage =20 7:10 - 7:55pm Art Hodge Stage A =20 7:55 - 8:00pm MC Center Stage =20 8:00 - 8:45pm Lumper/Splitter Stage B=20 8:45 - 8:50pm MC Center Stage =20 8:50 - 9:50pm Ted Killian & Jeff Kaiser Stage A=20 9:50 - 9:55pm MC Center Stage=20 9:55- 10:55pm Rick Walker Stage B=20 10:55 - 11:00pm Closing remarks - Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa = Balk Stimpert Center Stage =20 =20 Saturday, April 29 Time Event/Performance Stage/Location=20 12:00 - 12:50pm Pre-performance social hour with beverages and = snacks / Graphics Art Videos and Experimental Films from Tarey P., Thad = Povey, and Stewart Pound & Rosemary Norman Center of venue=20 12:50 - 1:00pm Kickoff event by Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa Balk = Stimpert (Visual Arts Collective) Center Stage=20 1:00 - 1:30pm 1-She Blows Neon (Alejandro Anastasio) Stage A=20 1:30 - 1:45pm 1- Intermission: "Stretched Landscapes" by Michael = Peters Center Stage=20 1:45 - 2:15pm 2-The Rex-X-Ray Band (George McLean & Nate Paradis) = Stage B =20 2:15 - 2:30pm 2-Intermission: "Experiments with Digital Light" by = Tarey P. (music by Lunegore) Center Stage=20 2:30 - 3:00pm 3-LINDA Stage A=20 3:00 - 3:15pm 3-Intermission: "Ontogenesis" by Nico Spahni Center = Stage=20 3:15 - 3:45pm 4-Art Hodge Stage B=20 3:45 - 4:00pm 4-Intermission: "Crossings" by Alvin Lucier = (performed live by Jeff Rice, Ted Apel, and Other Musicians) Center = Stage=20 4:00 - 4:30pm 5-Unicorn Feather Stage A=20 4:30 - 4:45pm 5-Intermission: "Cybernetic Lovesong" (live = experimental piece) by Gretchen Jude Center Stage=20 4:45 - 5:15pm 6-Jeff Rice & Ted Apel Stage B=20 5:15 - 5:30pm 6-Intermission: Series of short experimental films = by Thad Povey Center Stage=20 5:30 - 6:00pm 7-Krispen Hartung & Jared Hallock Stage A=20 6:00 - 7:00pm Dinner Break for Performers / "Avant Garde - = Experimental Cinema of the 1920s & 1930s" =20 7:00 - 8:00pm 8-Ted Killian & Jeff Kaiser / Rick Walker (combined = performance) Stage B=20 8:00-8:15pm 7-Intermission: "Microscopic Horrors" - Music Video = Microscopy by Krispen Hartung Center Stage=20 8:15-8:45pm 9/10 -Lumper/Splitter Stage A =20 8:45- 9:00pm 8-Intermission: "/Help./" by Boise Naval Base = (Performance Art) Center Stage=20 9:00 - 9:45pm 11-Bonefish Sam & His Power Orchestra Stage B=20 9:45- 10:00pm Closing remarks - Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa Balk = Stimpert Center Stage=20 =20 MORE INFO: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental ------=_NextPart_000_0267_01C66AA9.4DC521E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Boise Experimental Music Festival = Streaming=20 Tonight and tomorrow!

http://www.radioboise.org/ (click on=20 "Listen Here")
 
The first performance starts on = tonight =20 (Friday) at 7pm MST US time, or 9pm EST US time (Boston), or 6pm=20 PST (California), or 1:00am Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 2:00am in = London.
 
On Saturday, the first performance = starts at 1:00pm=20 MST US time, or 6pm Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 7pm (London) and the = music=20 goes for 10 hours.
 
Schedule
 
Time Event/Performance Stage/Location
7:00 - 7:10pm Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa Balk Stimpert
- Event = Kickoff=20 and communication of festival schedule, logistics, etc		 Center Stage
7:10 - 7:55pm Art=20 Hodge Stage A
7:55 - 8:00pm MC Center Stage
8:00 - 8:45pm Lumper/Splitter Stage B
8:45 - 8:50pm MC Center Stage
8:50 - 9:50pm Ted Killian & Jeff=20 Kaiser Stage A
9:50 - 9:55pm MC Center Stage
9:55- 10:55pm Rick Walker Stage B
10:55 - 11:00pm Closing remarks - Krispen Hartung & = Anneliessa Balk=20 Stimpert Center Stage
     


Saturday, April 29

Time Event/Performance Stage/Location
12:00 - 12:50pm Pre-performance social hour with beverages and snacks / = Graphics=20 Art Videos and Experimental Films from Tarey P., Thad Povey, and = Stewart=20 Pound & Rosemary Norman Center of venue
12:50 -=20 1:00pm Kickoff = event by=20 Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa Balk Stimpert (Visual Arts = Collective) Center=20 Stage
1:00 - 1:30pm 1-She Blows Neon (Alejandro Anastasio) Stage A
1:30 -=20 1:45pm 1- = Intermission:=20 "Stretched Landscapes" by Michael Peters Center=20 Stage
1:45 - 2:15pm 2-The Rex-X-Ray Band (George McLean & Nate=20 Paradis) Stage B
2:15 -=20 2:30pm 2-Intermission:=20 "Experiments with Digital Light" by Tarey P. (music by=20 Lunegore) Center=20 Stage
2:30 - 3:00pm 3-LINDA Stage A
3:00 -=20 3:15pm 3-Intermission:=20 "Ontogenesis" by Nico Spahni Center=20 Stage
3:15 - 3:45pm 4-Art Hodge Stage B
3:45 -=20 4:00pm 4-Intermission:=20 "Crossings" by Alvin Lucier (performed live by Jeff = Rice, Ted=20 Apel, and Other Musicians) Center=20 Stage
4:00 - 4:30pm 5-Unicorn Feather Stage A
4:30 -=20 4:45pm 5-Intermission:=20 "Cybernetic Lovesong" (live experimental piece) by Gretchen=20 Jude Center=20 Stage
4:45 - 5:15pm 6-Jeff Rice & Ted Apel Stage B
5:15 -=20 5:30pm 6-Intermission:=20 Series of short experimental films by Thad Povey Center=20 Stage
5:30 - 6:00pm 7-Krispen Hartung & Jared Hallock Stage A
6:00 -=20 7:00pm Dinner = Break for=20 Performers / "Avant Garde - Experimental Cinema of the 1920s = &=20 1930s"
  
7:00 - 8:00pm 8-Ted Killian & Jeff Kaiser / Rick Walker (combined=20 performance) Stage B
8:00-8:15pm 7-Intermission:=20 "Microscopic Horrors" - Music Video Microscopy by Krispen=20 Hartung Center=20 Stage
8:15-8:45pm 9/10 -Lumper/Splitter Stage A
8:45- = 9:00pm 8-Intermission:=20 "/Help./" by Boise Naval Base (Performance Art) Center=20 Stage
9:00 - 9:45pm 11-Bonefish Sam & His Power Orchestra Stage B
9:45- 10:00pm Closing remarks - Krispen Hartung & = Anneliessa Balk=20 Stimpert Center Stage
 
 
MORE INFO: http://www.boisemusic= ians.com/experimental
------=_NextPart_000_0267_01C66AA9.4DC521E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 16:52:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B822B3BED3; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: RE: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:52:36 +0200 Message-ID: <002501c66ae4$2804aa80$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZq354SC08zd00kSxybQV5Bngh9tAABGaew In-Reply-To: <00ef01c66aad$c584d0a0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:52:46 +0000 (UTC) > my Maker Faire performance last Sunday reviewed by > columnist David Battino of the O'Reilly Digital Media website. congrats Rick ... sounds good ... too bad I can't come to each of your performances! :-) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 17:14:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 833C03BEEA; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=LG3lINnWKOJyXaYRMKxqfA6TEkfXImYjSYJhiYFlYAOwsTddSIxaK3mwlseBNbBxblb/EKfxOISD3TaZDUkxjx2vSBay1iQOS+vN2oMbq7Yz/4d9NtVQIdXjJAHDg+Z5g5kOE2R3ZKTt9eTKHRXcFlNyv1hapEOEMAFXL75Q5Vk= In-Reply-To: <000001c66ac6$cfa9abf0$0202a8c0@Lightning> References: <000001c66ac6$cfa9abf0$0202a8c0@Lightning> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:14:02 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:14:06 +0000 (UTC) >> He even took a short movie clip of the performance. >> >> www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2006/04/ >> junk_in_the_loop_pool.html Nice coverage, Rick! My children loved the video :-) (and I did too, of course) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen "Look Dad, Froggyboy's on The Internet" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 17:25:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1C993BEE8; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003e01c66ae8$c326e1a0$66b85545@Biffoz> From: "Miko Biffle" To: References: Subject: Re: Message Board Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:25:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: <58rLsC.A.kaG.6_kUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:25:14 +0000 (UTC) From: > Without belaboring the point too much: I am a part of many Message boards that have all these aspects. Creating a commuinty is far from the exclusive domain of email lists. Of couse not, and Kim acknowledges this. He has stated his opinions and many others here have also. It's great to have an opinion and actually stand behind it. You sound like you have one too, but remember that it's YOUR job to build any community you envision, in harmony with other communities... Kim >> I think that idea is destructive to our community. I also think it is hurtful to the group when people try to create some separate forum. It always feels like an attempt to split our community up. > I think this might be a bit of an overreaction. Matt... from reading what you state below, it's clear that you'd like to see another forum somewhere... but trolling this community with the possibility of creating a home *somewhere* else IS divisive. You're welcome to start whatever looping list or board you might care to. Just don't do it here. You're witnessing the reactions of folks who have also participated in many other forums, using a variety of interfaces. We haven't ignored the high-tech world and somehow *missed* how other possibilities might work. We clearly disagree and prefer to stick together here. Get out there and do the work to build your community and try not to do damage to ours. Other communities HAVE formed through LD. Chain Tape Collective has put out a couple dozen cds authored by people from LD and elsewhere. www.ct-collective.com We have a different aim, and are a complimentary arm of LD. > It's a big world with a lot of Loopers. I don't see how a message board devoted to looping (again- I am NOT talking about LD, since it's clear most of the people here are not interested in a board-based forum- I am talking about if someone were to start a completely independent board devoted to looping)- could in any way, shape, or form be detrimental to the world community of looping musicians. No offense, but the preceeding statement certainly seems to imply that the LD mailing list is the be all & end all of the looping world, and quite frankly, it's not. I understand that you've worked on and created this list from nothing, and I very much appreciate the information & community available here. But to imply that it's a somehow negative action for someone else to attempt to begin simply a different format of communication between musicians is just downright silly, IMO. >From my experience, this list IS actually the most prominent forum in looping, with the most up-to-date and informed community available. Show me another place where I can get dialog and information of this quality and I'll take a look. It would be cool to find another nest of loopers, productively creating art and discussing their process. It would also be cool if they made themselves easier to find... using search engines regarding various products, ideas and people involved in looping mostly leads one back to... you guessed it... Loopers Delight. So if this "idea" for another board is just aimless conversation, it's just devilish advocating and provocative... and IMO it's OT. If it's actually a proposal to start something somewhere else, it's a TROLL. So which is it Matt? Miko Biffle -- "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." C'mon over to MySpace! www.myspace.com/biffozz Now playing 'Rough' www.cdbaby.com/biffoz The Chain Tape Collective! www.ct-collective.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 17:26:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 341F53BEEE; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Bs6ledVCRZbpgnNcA1xx0KC7biFDEklfA+tisLafcKjFJRhqbsuxmnyPu7vHm3NMYlwGnTA6R03KjeTjjufv9MfzeYGt7U5e+DMFtNqStQXc5Xz58vhtMZLKE5zwe9uSTlfhO5Fo9Zq+e2h+f9tXSTZPX+umyXxbtEYkrppGlYM= ; Message-ID: <20060428172601.23995.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:26:01 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: best looper for sync with a drum machine revisited... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002501c66ae4$2804aa80$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:26:03 +0000 (UTC) A while ago Rick W asked what the best looper for drum machine use was. At that time the Looperlative was only speculation. Now I have one! The good news is, it works. Once you sync a loop/track to the clock it more or less stays. What do I mean by "less?" Once you initiate a play/stop function your sync is gone. This is a bit problematic if you're trying to do looping involving multiple loops the way the the EDP, Repeater, Jamman and Loopstation work. (does the Loopstation work this way? I realized I think it does but I honestly don't know...) If you want multipal TRACKS it works great. They don't even have to be the same length, which is also great. You can control the volume of each track. Sweet. However, trying to build a loop, then cue a new loop to start recording at the end of your current loop... works until you try to go back to your first loop. I've tried to find a work around but the closest thing I could figure out is to use the volume control to mute tracks. There then becomes overlap between loops. Is it cool? Yes, but I miss having that ability to build a loop, start a new one, start to play over it and then bring back the old loop. So if you're looking for more structured looping (in a "song" sense), perhaps keep your EDP or Repeater. I love the way the Repeater gives you 99 4 track loops, I only wish a cued record/play could happen with a single midi command. Maybe on the mk2? HA! The looperlative also doesn't seem to respond to traditional "stop" and "play" messages like the Repeater does. Does the EDP? I don't know. Stop my drums and the Looperlative loops on. I haven't tried it's MIDI learn to see if it can respond to these commands though, it may. If you're not synced to a clock like I am, disregard the above. The Looperlative is great at doing the a/b loop sort of thing... it just falls down when the midi clock thing comes into play. Bob has expressed the possibility of adding this functionality in the future, and in fairness the Looperlative is a young product. In it's short life I've already seen a bunch of cool functionality added, such as replace which got added in v 1.0.5. Mark Sottilaro __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 17:27:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CC733BEFB; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-83.messagelabs.com!1146245265!15345474!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.147.240.179] Message-ID: <5748E17E0A4F3C40B77B2819D9E628DE02DC9164@lon-oxmail02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: mellotron Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:27:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C66AE9.0F284760" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:27:47 +0000 (UTC) This message is in MIME format. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C66AE9.0F284760-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 17:38:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B98C3BEEC; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <003e01c66ae8$c326e1a0$66b85545@Biffoz> Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:37:26 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/28/2006 01:38:23 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 684C8D591VC1992145-02-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:38:39 +0000 (UTC) >>>>>>So if this "idea" for another board is just aimless conversation, it's just devilish advocating and provocative... and IMO it's OT. If it's actually a proposal to start something somewhere else, it's a TROLL. So which is it Matt? Beg the question much? It's officially not worth discussing anymore. It's a sad day in any format when discussion of an independent idea is automatically labeled 'trolling'. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 18:19:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B59F63BED9; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Tj1Q3lb0S9xLzaiywygICxY6x6L7tUBmKMF2lK0vUOJ0X3OTff686VoJQHu0DuvuDnkCakxihBvIpNGYVOvHBdBah3PXsEeZynkNNZrW9n6Idw6qcKjV5r3iSGhfUBXGsHo26A0AvGqq/E0jEoYoSu0C8teDWpk7Z0jSfAzWUXs= ; Message-ID: <20060428181925.80884.qmail@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:19:25 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00ef01c66aad$c584d0a0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:19:27 +0000 (UTC) You dork! I was there sunday and had no idea! Instead I walked away from two guys who might have been checking their email while playing an electronica CD. --- "loop.pool" wrote: > Please forgive the shameless self promotion but > I was excited to have my Maker Faire performance > last Sunday > reviewed by columnist David Battino of the O'Reilly > Digital Media > website. > > He even took a short movie clip of the performance. > > www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2006/04/junk_in_the_loop_pool.html > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 18:49:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE7123BEB0; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,164,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="194679060:sNHT23398356" Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20060428114719.010beb10@mail02.powweb.com> x-files: the truth is out there Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:49:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site In-Reply-To: <20060428181925.80884.qmail@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <00ef01c66aad$c584d0a0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <3ryca.A.evB.8OmUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:49:32 +0000 (UTC) I just assumed I missed an advance announcement on the list (rather than after the fact). Was there one? Now I don't feel so bad about missing it. At 2006.04.28 11:19 AM, mark sottilaro wrote: >You dork! I was there sunday and had no idea! >Instead I walked away from two guys who might have >been checking their email while playing an electronica >CD. > >--- "loop.pool" wrote: > > > Please forgive the shameless self promotion but > > I was excited to have my Maker Faire performance > > last Sunday > > reviewed by columnist David Battino of the O'Reilly > > Digital Media > > website. > > > > He even took a short movie clip of the performance. > > > > >www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2006/04/junk_in_the_loop_pool.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 22:05:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A06AF3BEE7; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:05:17 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <8K2gU.A.qTB.cGpUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Froggy Boy!!!! That is rich. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:14 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looppool performance reviewed on O'Reilly Digital Media site >> He even took a short movie clip of the performance. >> >> www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2006/04/ >> junk_in_the_loop_pool.html Nice coverage, Rick! My children loved the video :-) (and I did too, of course) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen "Look Dad, Froggyboy's on The Internet" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 22:31:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D6D03BED0; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002c01c66b13$8f907ec0$e1b85545@Biffoz> From: "Miko Biffle" To: References: Subject: Re: Message Board Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:31:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: <02N6p.A.G7B.IfpUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:31:36 +0000 (UTC) > >>>>>>So if this "idea" for another board is just aimless conversation, it's just devilish advocating and provocative... and IMO it's OT. If it's actually a proposal to start something somewhere else, it's a TROLL. So which is it Matt? > Beg the question much? It's officially not worth discussing anymore. It's a sad day in any format when discussion of an independent idea is automatically labeled 'trolling'. I know, I know... I'm being pedantic... try that other looping web community where everyone's really cool and talks about whatever you want to. It's the repeated insistence that we somehow don't understand what you and Kris are fighting for, and are being really dim to not want what you want, to the point of being tired of the repeated insistence that it's a great thing. That's my point Matt. Miko Biffle -- "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." C'mon over to MySpace! www.myspace.com/biffozz Now playing 'Rough' www.cdbaby.com/biffoz The Chain Tape Collective! www.ct-collective.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 22:39:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 466153BED3; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Server-Uuid: 19320F60-75F1-4C03-876A-1D6F44F99F6F In-Reply-To: <002c01c66b13$8f907ec0$e1b85545@Biffoz> Subject: Re: Message Board To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:39:12 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LN-CAN-G02/Servers/SunLife(Release 6.5.4 HF129|May 12, 2005) at 04/28/2006 06:40:12 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 684C46051VC2104072-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1idKxB.A.1QC.6mpUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:39:54 +0000 (UTC) I never said anything even remotely resembling the sentiment you are attempting to attribute to me. But like I said- officially not worth discussing anymore. These will be my last words on the subject. "Miko Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: 04/28/2006 06:31 PM Subject: Re: Message Board Please respond to Loopers-Delight > >>>>>>So if this "idea" for another board is just aimless conversation, it's just devilish advocating and provocative... and IMO it's OT. If it's actually a proposal to start something somewhere else, it's a TROLL. So which is it Matt? > Beg the question much? It's officially not worth discussing anymore. It's a sad day in any format when discussion of an independent idea is automatically labeled 'trolling'. I know, I know... I'm being pedantic... try that other looping web community where everyone's really cool and talks about whatever you want to. It's the repeated insistence that we somehow don't understand what you and Kris are fighting for, and are being really dim to not want what you want, to the point of being tired of the repeated insistence that it's a great thing. That's my point Matt. Miko Biffle -- "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." C'mon over to MySpace! www.myspace.com/biffozz Now playing 'Rough' www.cdbaby.com/biffoz The Chain Tape Collective! www.ct-collective.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 22:50:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AAD73BEE8; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VRSGRkspAVFQpgSQVIR7H4Hu2NiXIaJJT0lVHIhLzx45DNjjNwbRu+pngYAS6IacM0MiHo8qrF5TjlRYODAkiNcd7y7aLqzC8hKg74drAPX7cHbzyUBaH89xnk0CR8qYF6vsll8GpZJ3CkNArwXwFYgYmTC8zp/PaR/dRSOpsIQ= Message-ID: <913728d60604281550v79a97edcl40414128a1beb46b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:50:18 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Message Board In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <002c01c66b13$8f907ec0$e1b85545@Biffoz> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:50:20 +0000 (UTC) I am surprised how this topic really seemed to ruffled a lot of feathers! Charlie On 4/28/06, Matthew.Quinn@sunlife.com wrote: > I never said anything even remotely resembling the sentiment you are > attempting to attribute to me. > > > But like I said- officially not worth discussing anymore. These will be m= y > last words on the subject. > > > > > > > > "Miko Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com > cc: > 04/28/2006 06:31 PM Subject: Re: Message Boar= d > Please respond to > Loopers-Delight > > > > > > > >>>>>>So if this "idea" for another board is just aimless conversation, > it's just devilish advocating and provocative... and IMO it's OT. If it's > actually a proposal to start something somewhere else, it's a TROLL. So > which is it Matt? > > > Beg the question much? It's officially not worth discussing anymore. It= 's > a sad day in any format when discussion of an independent idea is > automatically labeled 'trolling'. > > I know, I know... I'm being pedantic... try that other looping web > community > where everyone's really cool and talks about whatever you want to. It's t= he > repeated insistence that we somehow don't understand what you and Kris ar= e > fighting for, and are being really dim to not want what you want, to the > point of being tired of the repeated insistence that it's a great thing. > That's my point Matt. > > Miko Biffle -- "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." > C'mon over to MySpace! www.myspace.com/biffozz > Now playing 'Rough' www.cdbaby.com/biffoz > The Chain Tape Collective! www.ct-collective.com/ > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the u= se > of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt fro= m > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 28 23:37:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 443383BEE9; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JHexkm11R8vM64G/pyxE4mKpPWm61s4q2yZ2YZ9oQQB/gjJcRjKkBypNMz+wnuhjNI2cQwkb4ilWTntq0mAnJ3zvNuvt6BYsAEJsQKw02d1EUR09O/fJtkMdH/KRHEOD9tC0p5LGEJ+EEwiELxN0GDA9KIgT2x3HMB9D581NqKM= ; Message-ID: <20060428233749.96226.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:37:49 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: aiff to REX? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <913728d60604281550v79a97edcl40414128a1beb46b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:37:51 +0000 (UTC) I have a ton of drum loop samples I've purchased over the years and now I'm finding with Stylus RMX it will accept REX files made in Recycle. It seems kind of silly to get the entire program when all I actually want is to convert a few cds of loops over. Anyone know of another app that will do the conversion? Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 29 01:22:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A00773BEE9; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:22:38 -0300 From: Andrew Duke Subject: Re: aiff to REX? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4452BFDE.1060205@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en-gb, en X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <20060428233749.96226.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 (CK-SillyDog) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:22:49 +0000 (UTC) mark sottilaro wrote: >I have a ton of drum loop samples I've purchased over >the years and now I'm finding with Stylus RMX it will >accept REX files made in Recycle. It seems kind of >silly to get the entire program when all I actually >want is to convert a few cds of loops over. Anyone >know of another app that will do the conversion? > >Mark > Mark: Are you using Windows or Mac OS? Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 29 08:03:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED1783BEDA; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Ocjbo8Ij7d00CNTCQuUiAYzLTra0TgrVThlYy6dwoOX5lGcP3nvbDZ3wBSuNKW81N9CfF6qWt8X0XeBshfrtNtZTMo77NXyECVKkaD7ZGysOBjIa5fjZtgxh/O2Ai8uwnN895S58HTC/6HlLjkMVxvYfE7Zr4XOtht+pXyS456Q= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <20060428233749.96226.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060428233749.96226.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <750DF347-6E5B-4B89-8DF1-B82D76650FD1@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: aiff to REX? Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:02:45 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: <14AXAB.A.k4D.R3xUEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:03:29 +0000 (UTC) On 29 apr 2006, at 01.37, mark sottilaro wrote: > I have a ton of drum loop samples I've purchased over > the years and now I'm finding with Stylus RMX it will > accept REX files made in Recycle. It seems kind of > silly to get the entire program when all I actually > want is to convert a few cds of loops over. Anyone > know of another app that will do the conversion? Hi Mark, As far as I know buying ReCycle is the quickest way to create REX files. Or bringing your CD's and USB stick somewhere where they have ReCycle and let you sit down for an hour to do all the conversions. It's too bad Stylus RMX can not import audio unless being converted into REX, but if you have a lot of material it's worth the effort. I am very happy that I did that effort last year to convert a recording session with a percussionist (many african instruments played and recorded) as well as my own old guitar sampling CD. The loops really grow into new dimension when mangled in RMX. This is also true for tonal/melodic material, not just drum loops. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 29 11:33:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4A203BED2; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on smtp2.ruc.dk X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: Message-ID: <44534EEC.60909@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:33:00 +0200 From: Andreas Wetterberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: aiff to REX? References: <20060428233749.96226.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <750DF347-6E5B-4B89-8DF1-B82D76650FD1@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <750DF347-6E5B-4B89-8DF1-B82D76650FD1@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_l_plB.A.usB.070UEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:33:08 +0000 (UTC) as far as I know the Rex format is so proprietary that other apps can't generate it. In other words, it sucks. There are tons of other options, though - some are heaps better than Recycle, even. Here are a couple: 1) Phatmatik Pro. It's a vsti plugin that can slice any wavefile and it can be used to play it back. It's an awesome product, and it's now being developed by the equally awesome iZotope people. It's 149$, has filters, envelopes, all of that. It even stores the slice-information inside a file that can be read as a regular wavefile - so no .rex file redundancy going on. www.izotope.com 2) vSampler. It's a full vsti sampler, and it can run in rewire mode as a standalone if you so desire. The beat-slicing is so efficient that it's unbelievable. It's no problem slicing up a bunch of loops and placing them after each other across the keyboard. It's 149€, immensely cool, and can be found here: www.vsampler.com I started with ReCycle. realized that I hated it, switched to Phatmatik, which I still own and love, and then I found out that I needed massive amounts of sample-mappings in my set, so I upgraded to vSampler. Compare those to recycle, which is flippin' 229 euros! Eeek! So even though you won't be able to play it in Stylus, you'd be getting more options at a lower price. just my 0.02€. Andreas Per Boysen wrote: > On 29 apr 2006, at 01.37, mark sottilaro wrote: > >> I have a ton of drum loop samples I've purchased over >> the years and now I'm finding with Stylus RMX it will >> accept REX files made in Recycle. It seems kind of >> silly to get the entire program when all I actually >> want is to convert a few cds of loops over. Anyone >> know of another app that will do the conversion? > > > Hi Mark, > > As far as I know buying ReCycle is the quickest way to create REX files. > Or bringing your CD's and USB stick somewhere where they have ReCycle > and let you sit down for an hour to do all the conversions. > > It's too bad Stylus RMX can not import audio unless being converted into > REX, but if you have a lot of material it's worth the effort. I am very > happy that I did that effort last year to convert a recording session > with a percussionist (many african instruments played and recorded) as > well as my own old guitar sampling CD. The loops really grow into new > dimension when mangled in RMX. This is also true for tonal/melodic > material, not just drum loops. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > > . > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 29 15:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A20DE3BED9; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <031901c66ba1$95138930$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <026a01c66adb$98e16c10$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival Streaming Tonight and Tomorrow! Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:28:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0316_01C66B6F.4A037400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 547, in=288310, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:28:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0316_01C66B6F.4A037400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...just waking up and having my coffee here with some first BEMF = reflections. Last night's show was outstanding. Lumper/Splitter (Joe & = Lucio), Ted Killian & Jeff Kaiser, and Rick put on some amazing = performances that I thought were very innovative. I think they blew some = Boise minds! And the great thing is that we recorded it all. Having = two films running at the same time on the sides of each stage worked out = beautifully. It was bizarre how totally unrelated films and live music = synced up on accasion. Was anyone able to listen in on the stream? If not, we're streaming all = day today too, starting at 1pm MST US time, 12pm San Franciso time, 3pm = Boston time, 6pm Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 7pm (London)...and the = music goes for 10 hours. I also played with Jeff Kaiser the night before at the same gallery, for = an audience of about 350 people....I will share that recording this = weekend, plus a bunch of pictures, here: http://www.box.net/public/ujuqoez7et (will eventually include all the = videos, music, and images) Kris Boise Experimental Music Festival Streaming Tonight and tomorrow! http://www.radioboise.org/ (click on "Listen Here") The first performance starts on tonight (Friday) at 7pm MST US time, = or 9pm EST US time (Boston), or 6pm PST (California), or 1:00am = Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 2:00am in London. On Saturday, the first performance starts at 1:00pm MST US time, or = 6pm Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 7pm (London) and the music goes for 10 = hours. Schedule Time Event/Performance Stage/Location=20 7:00 - 7:10pm Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa Balk Stimpert - Event Kickoff and communication of festival schedule, = logistics, etc Center Stage =20 7:10 - 7:55pm Art Hodge Stage A =20 7:55 - 8:00pm MC Center Stage =20 8:00 - 8:45pm Lumper/Splitter Stage B=20 8:45 - 8:50pm MC Center Stage =20 8:50 - 9:50pm Ted Killian & Jeff Kaiser Stage A=20 9:50 - 9:55pm MC Center Stage=20 9:55- 10:55pm Rick Walker Stage B=20 10:55 - 11:00pm Closing remarks - Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa = Balk Stimpert Center Stage =20 =20 Saturday, April 29 Time Event/Performance Stage/Location=20 12:00 - 12:50pm Pre-performance social hour with beverages and = snacks / Graphics Art Videos and Experimental Films from Tarey P., Thad = Povey, and Stewart Pound & Rosemary Norman Center of venue=20 12:50 - 1:00pm Kickoff event by Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa = Balk Stimpert (Visual Arts Collective) Center Stage=20 1:00 - 1:30pm 1-She Blows Neon (Alejandro Anastasio) Stage A=20 1:30 - 1:45pm 1- Intermission: "Stretched Landscapes" by Michael = Peters Center Stage=20 1:45 - 2:15pm 2-The Rex-X-Ray Band (George McLean & Nate = Paradis) Stage B =20 2:15 - 2:30pm 2-Intermission: "Experiments with Digital Light" = by Tarey P. (music by Lunegore) Center Stage=20 2:30 - 3:00pm 3-LINDA Stage A=20 3:00 - 3:15pm 3-Intermission: "Ontogenesis" by Nico Spahni = Center Stage=20 3:15 - 3:45pm 4-Art Hodge Stage B=20 3:45 - 4:00pm 4-Intermission: "Crossings" by Alvin Lucier = (performed live by Jeff Rice, Ted Apel, and Other Musicians) Center = Stage=20 4:00 - 4:30pm 5-Unicorn Feather Stage A=20 4:30 - 4:45pm 5-Intermission: "Cybernetic Lovesong" (live = experimental piece) by Gretchen Jude Center Stage=20 4:45 - 5:15pm 6-Jeff Rice & Ted Apel Stage B=20 5:15 - 5:30pm 6-Intermission: Series of short experimental films = by Thad Povey Center Stage=20 5:30 - 6:00pm 7-Krispen Hartung & Jared Hallock Stage A=20 6:00 - 7:00pm Dinner Break for Performers / "Avant Garde - = Experimental Cinema of the 1920s & 1930s" =20 7:00 - 8:00pm 8-Ted Killian & Jeff Kaiser / Rick Walker = (combined performance) Stage B=20 8:00-8:15pm 7-Intermission: "Microscopic Horrors" - Music Video = Microscopy by Krispen Hartung Center Stage=20 8:15-8:45pm 9/10 -Lumper/Splitter Stage A =20 8:45- 9:00pm 8-Intermission: "/Help./" by Boise Naval Base = (Performance Art) Center Stage=20 9:00 - 9:45pm 11-Bonefish Sam & His Power Orchestra Stage B=20 9:45- 10:00pm Closing remarks - Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa = Balk Stimpert Center Stage=20 MORE INFO: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental ------=_NextPart_000_0316_01C66B6F.4A037400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...just waking up and having my coffee = here with=20 some first BEMF reflections. Last night's show was outstanding. = Lumper/Splitter=20 (Joe & Lucio), Ted Killian & Jeff Kaiser, and Rick put on some = amazing=20 performances that I thought were very innovative. I think they blew some = Boise=20 minds!  And the great thing is that we recorded it=20 all.  Having two films running at the same time on the sides = of each=20 stage worked out beautifully. It was bizarre how totally unrelated = films=20 and live music synced up on accasion.
 
Was anyone able to listen in on the = stream? If not,=20 we're streaming all day today too, starting at 1pm MST US time, = 12pm San=20 Franciso time, 3pm Boston time, 6pm Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 7pm=20 (London)...and the music goes for 10 hours.
 
I also played with Jeff Kaiser the = night before at=20 the same gallery, for an audience of about 350 people....I = will share=20 that recording this weekend, plus a bunch of pictures, = here:
 
http://www.box.net/public/u= juqoez7et =20 (will eventually include all the videos, music, and images)
 
 
Kris

Boise Experimental Music = Festival Streaming=20 Tonight and tomorrow!

http://www.radioboise.org/ (click on=20 "Listen Here")
 
The first performance starts on=20 tonight  (Friday) at 7pm MST US time, or 9pm EST US time = (Boston), or 6pm=20 PST (California), or 1:00am Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 2:00am = in=20 London.
 
On Saturday, the first performance = starts at=20 1:00pm MST US time, or 6pm Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 7pm (London) = and the=20 music goes for 10 hours.
 
Schedule
 
Time Event/Performance Stage/Location
7:00 - 7:10pm Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa Balk Stimpert
- = Event Kickoff=20 and communication of festival schedule, logistics, = etc		 Center Stage
7:10 - 7:55pm Art=20 Hodge Stage A
7:55 - 8:00pm MC Center Stage
8:00 - 8:45pm Lumper/Splitter Stage B
8:45 - 8:50pm MC Center Stage
8:50 - 9:50pm Ted Killian & Jeff=20 Kaiser Stage A
9:50 - 9:55pm MC Center Stage
9:55- 10:55pm Rick Walker Stage B
10:55 - 11:00pm Closing remarks - Krispen Hartung & = Anneliessa=20 Balk Stimpert Center Stage
     


Saturday, April 29

Time Event/Performance Stage/Location
12:00 - 12:50pm Pre-performance social hour with beverages and snacks / = Graphics=20 Art Videos and Experimental Films from Tarey P., Thad Povey, and = Stewart=20 Pound & Rosemary Norman Center of venue
12:50 -=20 1:00pm Kickoff = event by=20 Krispen Hartung & Anneliessa Balk Stimpert (Visual = Arts=20 Collective) Center=20 Stage
1:00 - 1:30pm 1-She Blows Neon (Alejandro = Anastasio) Stage A
1:30 -=20 1:45pm 1- = Intermission:=20 "Stretched Landscapes" by Michael Peters Center=20 Stage
1:45 - 2:15pm 2-The Rex-X-Ray Band (George McLean & Nate=20 Paradis) Stage B
2:15 -=20 2:30pm 2-Intermission:=20 "Experiments with Digital Light" by Tarey P. (music by=20 Lunegore) Center=20 Stage
2:30 - 3:00pm 3-LINDA = Stage A
3:00 -=20 3:15pm 3-Intermission:=20 "Ontogenesis" by Nico Spahni Center=20 Stage
3:15 - 3:45pm 4-Art Hodge Stage B
3:45 -=20 4:00pm 4-Intermission:=20 "Crossings" by Alvin Lucier (performed live by Jeff = Rice, Ted=20 Apel, and Other Musicians) Center=20 Stage
4:00 - 4:30pm 5-Unicorn Feather=20 Stage A
4:30 -=20 4:45pm 5-Intermission:=20 "Cybernetic Lovesong" (live experimental piece) by Gretchen=20 Jude Center=20 Stage
4:45 - 5:15pm 6-Jeff Rice & Ted Apel Stage B
5:15 -=20 5:30pm 6-Intermission:=20 Series of short experimental films by Thad Povey Center=20 Stage
5:30 - 6:00pm 7-Krispen Hartung & Jared = Hallock Stage A
6:00 -=20 7:00pm Dinner = Break for=20 Performers / "Avant Garde - Experimental Cinema of the 1920s = &=20 1930s"
  
7:00 - 8:00pm 8-Ted = Killian &=20 Jeff Kaiser / Rick Walker (combined=20 performance) Stage B
8:00-8:15pm 7-Intermission:=20 "Microscopic Horrors" - Music Video Microscopy by Krispen=20 Hartung Center=20 Stage
8:15-8:45pm 9/10 -Lumper/Splitter Stage A
8:45-=20 9:00pm 8-Intermission:=20 "/Help./" by Boise Naval Base (Performance Art) Center=20 Stage
9:00 - 9:45pm 11-Bonefish Sam=20 & His Power Orchestra Stage B
9:45- 10:00pm Closing remarks - Krispen Hartung & = Anneliessa=20 Balk Stimpert Center Stage
 

MORE INFO: http://www.boisemusic= ians.com/experimental
------=_NextPart_000_0316_01C66B6F.4A037400-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 29 15:48:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B99F13BEE6; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=cRUBmwT7QJlEOXisEL+5/LPjA72IjTbfp29acMt9u7HgLSb2lWxZzkA4bCIlvykGvGJNsw/6k0eK/fH5riRNG600FgStlUB2IoEQxWhGDL/QJyCPzPglMJI86cqISgUSStXOKQeDMPSophPH09uejt7aHI67ZZbYYWRcm9SBlCQ= In-Reply-To: <031901c66ba1$95138930$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <026a01c66adb$98e16c10$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <031901c66ba1$95138930$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6E461544-7600-44FC-8B74-48F218AFEA5B@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival Streaming Tonight and Tomorrow! Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:48:05 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:48:10 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:28 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Was anyone able to listen in on the stream? Yes. Clear sound, no rebuffering. Solid, interesting stuff. Good work! cheers BobCo http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier2 http://www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier http://tinyurl.com/cr25j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 29 17:42:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A1DC3BEE0; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Kris Hartung To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Boise Experimental Music Festival - First MP3 to Share Reply-To: khartung@cableone.net Content-Type: text/html; X-Origin: 63.230.126.44 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:28:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1146335313_28288@S3.cableone.net> X-SpamDetect: *: 1.200000 Suspicious tags-to-text ratio=1.2 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 543, in=170003, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.1.3 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:42:43 +0000 (UTC)

Hello folks,

Here is me and Jeff Kaiser's pre-BEMF performance from Thursday.

...hope you like it.

http://www.box.net/public/static/fudmcue0nv.mp3

OR

http://www.box.net/public/fudmcue0nv

Kris


From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 29 21:59:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F5B23BEC5; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <031901c66ba1$95138930$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <026a01c66adb$98e16c10$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <031901c66ba1$95138930$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:57:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: EDP "Mute" button issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:59:37 +0000 (UTC) I took my EDP out into the world today to play a gig, and it worked fine for the most part. But a couple of times during the performance, I hit the MUTE button and the music didn't stop. Any theories as to why this would have happened? Is there any programmable condition in which that button stops doing what it's intended to do? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://playback.trufun.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 01:29:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34B103BEDA; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=epIyq9r1NY3LKerJXuhVUYpAPebsDGsmMRpDCtRctdu1bADH7H3xsrpiL7Uz9YuLvOXmX/OJ1e7hmlJ8EuYLo+e7w48WPoxetkTHFCIrgbdl28fOwwUPRYToEQvEXTy2rmFgxHrqxI+C+VH9jD7bomUe6zNcicxJnbtmdHxcLeE= ; Message-ID: <20060430012953.74748.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: aiff to REX? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4452BFDE.1060205@andrew-duke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Mac OS 9 or 10 --- Andrew Duke wrote: > mark sottilaro wrote: > > >I have a ton of drum loop samples I've purchased > over > >the years and now I'm finding with Stylus RMX it > will > >accept REX files made in Recycle. It seems kind of > >silly to get the entire program when all I actually > >want is to convert a few cds of loops over. Anyone > >know of another app that will do the conversion? > > > >Mark > > > Mark: > Are you using Windows or Mac OS? > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > http://myspace.com/andrewduke > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 01:31:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E95D33BEE9; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QkGaoIccmqhtFr5/phLEgpJ3nrOHVUrP2WbVXCiGmW6lUVFxc0yWQKYpI6SEnae7Tdr3DQtfxpNagTa0dUHOjvq02Ay6OiIbu2J/LXMfmMRkfoV3GZCllgKoqsmm/fbjKcGysb2CK8nHMTweztV1fIrLG+dVxA69J4qKlH75apI= ; Message-ID: <20060430013140.90113.qmail@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:31:40 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: aiff to REX? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <750DF347-6E5B-4B89-8DF1-B82D76650FD1@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Ah, that's a great idea Per... anyone in the SF bay area willing to make a trade? Some Recycle time for... something? --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 29 apr 2006, at 01.37, mark sottilaro wrote: > > > I have a ton of drum loop samples I've purchased > over > > the years and now I'm finding with Stylus RMX it > will > > accept REX files made in Recycle. It seems kind > of > > silly to get the entire program when all I > actually > > want is to convert a few cds of loops over. > Anyone > > know of another app that will do the conversion? > > > Hi Mark, > > As far as I know buying ReCycle is the quickest way > to create REX > files. Or bringing your CD's and USB stick > somewhere where they have > ReCycle and let you sit down for an hour to do all > the conversions. > > It's too bad Stylus RMX can not import audio unless > being converted > into REX, but if you have a lot of material it's > worth the effort. I > am very happy that I did that effort last year to > convert a recording > session with a percussionist (many african > instruments played and > recorded) as well as my own old guitar sampling CD. > The loops really > grow into new dimension when mangled in RMX. This is > also true for > tonal/melodic material, not just drum loops. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 01:33:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C2F33BEF1; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NVQpe2FrHbb9+snbzI+0BwUk73tbFtsMcVxwimaacYR0+oedjPZ3fOSOwR34RR0PfoFuOtavw8m2dNKCXQLDNsVf/LTfaGA7drz9zZMAC/8D5jlieiHNXCnjnFqpVUsEobbHc4UL4rC/7RqEew/0OBC2BEesERJ67H1dS8nAkgU= ; Message-ID: <20060430013344.58966.qmail@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:33:44 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: aiff to REX? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <44534EEC.60909@post.cybercity.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I agree that Recycle didn't seem the best option for such things, but I love Stylus RMX and that can pretty much only deal with it's own format or .rex files, so I'm stuck. Mark --- Andreas Wetterberg wrote: > as far as I know the Rex format is so proprietary > that other apps can't > generate it. In other words, it sucks. > > There are tons of other options, though - some are > heaps better than > Recycle, even. Here are a couple: > > 1) Phatmatik Pro. It's a vsti plugin that can slice > any wavefile and it > can be used to play it back. It's an awesome > product, and it's now being > developed by the equally awesome iZotope people. > It's 149$, has filters, envelopes, all of that. It > even stores the > slice-information inside a file that can be read as > a regular wavefile - > so no .rex file redundancy going on. > www.izotope.com > > 2) vSampler. It's a full vsti sampler, and it can > run in rewire mode as > a standalone if you so desire. The beat-slicing is > so efficient that > it's unbelievable. It's no problem slicing up a > bunch of loops and > placing them after each other across the keyboard. > It's 149€, immensely cool, and can be found here: > www.vsampler.com > > I started with ReCycle. realized that I hated it, > switched to Phatmatik, > which I still own and love, and then I found out > that I needed massive > amounts of sample-mappings in my set, so I upgraded > to vSampler. > > Compare those to recycle, which is flippin' 229 > euros! Eeek! > So even though you won't be able to play it in > Stylus, you'd be getting > more options at a lower price. > > just my 0.02€. > Andreas > > > > Per Boysen wrote: > > On 29 apr 2006, at 01.37, mark sottilaro wrote: > > > >> I have a ton of drum loop samples I've purchased > over > >> the years and now I'm finding with Stylus RMX it > will > >> accept REX files made in Recycle. It seems kind > of > >> silly to get the entire program when all I > actually > >> want is to convert a few cds of loops over. > Anyone > >> know of another app that will do the conversion? > > > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > As far as I know buying ReCycle is the quickest > way to create REX files. > > Or bringing your CD's and USB stick somewhere > where they have ReCycle > > and let you sit down for an hour to do all the > conversions. > > > > It's too bad Stylus RMX can not import audio > unless being converted into > > REX, but if you have a lot of material it's worth > the effort. I am very > > happy that I did that effort last year to convert > a recording session > > with a percussionist (many african instruments > played and recorded) as > > well as my own old guitar sampling CD. The loops > really grow into new > > dimension when mangled in RMX. This is also true > for tonal/melodic > > material, not just drum loops. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 04:02:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CE883BEEE; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 04:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060430000050.01cb1188@mail.wightman.ca> X-Sender: phaslem@mail.wightman.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 00:02:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Boise Experimental Music Festival Streaming Tonight and Tomorrow! In-Reply-To: <031901c66ba1$95138930$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <026a01c66adb$98e16c10$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <031901c66ba1$95138930$c4c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1FA934C5; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-445436DA316C=======" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 04:02:43 +0000 (UTC) --=======AVGMAIL-445436DA316C======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_25580625==.ALT"; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1FA934C5 --=====================_25580625==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1FA934C5 Hey Kris, I was able to catch the last couple of performances on the internet radio.... great festival!!! Thanks for sharing with us. Paul www.dulcify.ca At 11:28 AM 4/29/2006, you wrote: >...just waking up and having my coffee here with some first BEMF >reflections. Last night's show was outstanding. Lumper/Splitter (Joe & >Lucio), Ted Killian & Jeff Kaiser, and Rick put on some amazing >performances that I thought were very innovative. I think they blew some >Boise minds! And the great thing is that we recorded it all. Having two >films running at the same time on the sides of each stage worked out >beautifully. It was bizarre how totally unrelated films and live music >synced up on accasion. > >Was anyone able to listen in on the stream? If not, we're streaming all >day today too, starting at 1pm MST US time, 12pm San Franciso time, 3pm >Boston time, 6pm Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 7pm (London)...and the >music goes for 10 hours. > >I also played with Jeff Kaiser the night before at the same gallery, for >an audience of about 350 people....I will share that recording this >weekend, plus a bunch of pictures, here: > >http://www.box.net/public/ujuqoez7et >(will eventually include all the videos, music, and images) --=====================_25580625==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1FA934C5 Hey Kris,

I was able to catch the last couple of performances on the internet radio.... great festival!!! Thanks for sharing with us.

Paul
www.dulcify.ca





At 11:28 AM 4/29/2006, you wrote:

...just waking up and having my coffee here with some first BEMF reflections. Last night's show was outstanding. Lumper/Splitter (Joe & Lucio), Ted Killian & Jeff Kaiser, and Rick put on some amazing performances that I thought were very innovative. I think they blew some Boise minds!  And the great thing is that we recorded it all.  Having two films running at the same time on the sides of each stage worked out beautifully. It was bizarre how totally unrelated films and live music synced up on accasion.
 
Was anyone able to listen in on the stream? If not, we're streaming all day today too, starting at 1pm MST US time, 12pm San Franciso time, 3pm Boston time, 6pm Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), or 7pm (London)...and the music goes for 10 hours.
 
I also played with Jeff Kaiser the night before at the same gallery, for an audience of about 350 people....I will share that recording this weekend, plus a bunch of pictures, here:
 
http://www.box.net/public/ujuqoez7et  (will eventually include all the videos, music, and images)
--=====================_25580625==.ALT-- --=======AVGMAIL-445436DA316C=======-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 08:21:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCB0A3BEF0; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:21:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20060430011958.01e54098@TheNettles.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:20:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kevin Subject: Thomas Dolby Constructing a Loop Video Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:21:00 +0000 (UTC) How he builds a "Flat Earth": http://www.thomasdolby.com/media/pod/FlatEarthIntroDemo.m4v Cheers, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 08:36:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A99753BEAF; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Y8+r5nlhBwGKjPXKiqKZ0xV90tS9CzkkWsQSp6h5CfRmvYdKezjWIQTKVjHzeyuOoLXW2ZtJvPm7PQnb5x9apa18Q9KL1Q+n6NaXWuycnZH5xg76U7q5N7V8PIgaqp/BxwqmwKhhe3RVRPuVltKaTzOKZOGILuEJX7ItrCCJ5gg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20060430011958.01e54098@TheNettles.com> References: <7.0.0.16.0.20060430011958.01e54098@TheNettles.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2C56F400-EC7D-4925-9814-C57778FF47AD@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby Constructing a Loop Video Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:36:19 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:36:24 +0000 (UTC) On 30 apr 2006, at 10.20, Kevin wrote: > How he builds a "Flat Earth": > http://www.thomasdolby.com/media/pod/FlatEarthIntroDemo.m4v Very interesting! Thanks for posting the link. He doesn't say so in the overdubbed voice track, but it's actually a good demo for Logic's cycle recording feature. Such "real-time MIDI looping" had been possible with Logic for some twelve, thirteen years now. That CamelPhat also sounds nice when he comes at the B section. Back in the eighties and nineties, before advanced audio looping came around, I used to envy those "MIDI musicians" that played keyboards and had access to this new world of layering and instant composition. But today we all have equal tools in that department, no matter your choice of first instrument. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 09:01:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D2C53BEE0; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=5Bgig_reminder=5D:_KYBERMUSIK_-_30.4.06_-_M=FCnchen/Germa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ny_and_streaming!?= Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:01:12 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000601c66c34$a1856150$0101a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZsNKDpk7oKs8+mTTuiet23JymVSA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:01:18 +0000 (UTC) just a reminder: tonight, Rick, Kris and I will be playing together = using Ninjam. The result will be available both to the audience at M=FCnchen's = Salon Erna and to listeners on the web. The fast facts: KYBERMUSIK Rick Walker, Krispen Hartung, Rainer Straschill Salon Erna, Friedenstr. 10, M=FCnchen (D) and streaming audio. Website (streaming audio, background info, listener chat): http://moinlabs.de/kybermusik/ date/time: April 30th 2006. doors: 20:00h UTC, performance: 21:30h UTC = c.t. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 13:58:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27CE83BEE0; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.5 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:04:20 +0200 Subject: Jayrope: Old but New -> Jamman outdoors: help on schematics From: jayrope To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - babylon.servershost.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Hello all, Due to some spam problem a while ago I guess I fell off this list. In any case my name's jayrope and I am a looper from berlin, working with a lexicon jamman still aswell as an electrix repeater. Anyone interested in soundfiles, please check out the links below. My question of today is: Is there any way to get a hold of schematics for the jamman/lexicon? I want to modify my jamman to be powered by an external 12 volt DC lead battery to be able to play outdoors. I know that it is possible to simply use a dc-to-ac 12V to 9V convertor, but that=B9s not what I want to do. Any ideas fro schemATics or is there anyone on the list, WHO TRIED SUCH MODIFICATION BEFORE AND COULD GIVE ME SOME HELP ON THIS? Oops, sorry for screaming 8) Thanx very much in advance, any answers are appreciated, Offlist replies are welcomed aswell, as you prefer, Happy looping, kids. j --- best greets from berlin! jayrope http://www.kliklak.net random love songs: http://myspace.com/jrpsolo all other trash: http://myspace.com/jayrope ... my answer might (not) be on time due to (persistent) rare presence of a(n) (im)permanent internet connection(breakup). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 23:12:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 877E03BEF9; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RTDsmkTEpLcXk4n5fODj4v3US9h94WwE90Mwi80qbE8yGvgIj4xBO36Zcg8Ahw/iw7CaAyr7ze0TYfJ++D+/PA8jQkKo3gzM9G2YHlHZnioLFdnRCi2KJubL/5pdrncGfJYYZ9IfRj9rErEfWvV7mfLQDynYIPQHHrwCsIUBptU= ; Message-ID: <20060430222256.7225.qmail@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:22:56 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel stevenson Subject: Re: Jayrope: Old but New -> Jamman outdoors: help on schematics To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:12:55 +0000 (UTC) good question jayrope,i hope you get some real advice.here's something i was thinking=12 volt dc battery-110(or whatever is the euro equivalent)then plug in your 9v wall wort into the converter. plug in a power-strip and run a lot more than a jamman. i play outdoors a lot but I'm limited to a dl4 and a micro cube because i don't want to lug around a big battery along with my current gear.it gets a bit heavy pedaling up steep hills! hope ya get some tech info, scary visionary. --- jayrope wrote: > Hello all, > > Due to some spam problem a while ago I guess I fell > off this list. > In any case my name's jayrope and I am a looper from > berlin, working with a > lexicon jamman still aswell as an electrix repeater. > > Anyone interested in soundfiles, please check out > the links below. > > My question of today is: > Is there any way to get a hold of schematics for the > jamman/lexicon? I want > to modify my jamman to be powered by an external 12 > volt DC lead battery to > be able to play outdoors. I know that it is possible > to simply use a > dc-to-ac 12V to 9V convertor, but that=B9s not what > I want to do. > > Any ideas fro schemATics or is there anyone on the > list, WHO TRIED SUCH > MODIFICATION BEFORE AND COULD GIVE ME SOME HELP ON > THIS? > > Oops, sorry for screaming 8) > > Thanx very much in advance, any answers are > appreciated, > Offlist replies are welcomed aswell, as you prefer, > > Happy looping, kids. > > j > --- > best greets from berlin! > > jayrope > > http://www.kliklak.net > random love songs: > http://myspace.com/jrpsolo > all other trash: > http://myspace.com/jayrope > ... > my answer might (not) be on time due to (persistent) > rare presence of a(n) > (im)permanent internet connection(breakup). > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 30 23:38:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F2DD3BEFB; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00c601c66cb2$8f80cfc0$45bae104@hppav> From: "rdwiv" To: References: <20060430012953.74748.qmail@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: aiff to REX? Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:02:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Resent-Message-ID: <0f9SgB.A.wxG.epUVEB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/60607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:38:07 +0000 (UTC) It's not free but www.chickensys.com "Translator" will convert them http://www.chickensys.com/support/software/translator/specialfeatures/slicefiles.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" To: Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: aiff to REX? > Mac OS 9 or 10 > > --- Andrew Duke wrote: > > > mark sottilaro wrote: > > > > >I have a ton of drum loop samples I've purchased > > over > > >the years and now I'm finding with Stylus RMX it > > will > > >accept REX files made in Recycle. It seems kind of > > >silly to get the entire program when all I actually > > >want is to convert a few cds of loops over. Anyone > > >know of another app that will do the conversion? > > > > > >Mark > > > > > Mark: > > Are you using Windows or Mac OS? > > Andrew > > > > -- > > Andrew Duke > > scoring/sound design/source > > http://andrew-duke.com > > http://myspace.com/andrewduke > > Cognition Audioworks label > > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >