From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 00:19:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA30728; Wed, 1 May 2002 00:17:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 00:17:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:16:56 -0700 From: Greg Kucharo Subject: Re: zappa!(was Re: For G-bashers) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.5.1 (Blindsider) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Doctor, sir, you are appallingly well connected! 1:07 PM Richard Zvonar >At 7:12 AM -0700 4/29/02, Evan Meyers wrote: > >>does anyone know specifically if zappa ever really experimented with looping > >I asked Bob Rice, who was Zappa's Synclavier assistant for several >years. Bob sez: > >>yes, actually. During the sound checks for his live shows, he used to send >>everyone away and he'd just work with his guitar rig for a while at >>extremely high volume levels, mostly just improvising stuff. He'd load >>snippets into a pair of MXR digital delays with extended memory of up to, I >>think, almost 4 seconds! Anyway, on the MXRs, he' d usually create 2 >>different loops so if they played together they'd eventually drop out of >>sync. This was the only use for the delays in the rig and they'd have 2 >>dedicated combo amps that were mic'd so that he could kick them in in the >>middle of a solo and then play over the top of them with his main rig. The >>drummer and bass player would have to find a groove based on or around the >>loops and if both were on and they went out of sync, they would listen for >>the polyrhythms that would result from the kaos. For a short amount of loop >>time, there were pretty amazing possibilities for improvisation with good >>players aboard. >> >>There is a live album called Make a Jazz Noise Here that has 2 pieces that >>use quite a bit of looping. One is called Fire and Chains which uses a >>massive sample patch I built for him on the Synclavier with lots of vocal >>samples from the Senate hearings on Porn Rock lyrics (and warning labels on >>records ect.), that loop around at various rates and have pitch modulation >>patched to the polyphonic aftertouch on the keyboard. You'd hold down a >>chord and use varying degrees of aftertouch on each note to change the >>speed of the samples going round and round. Again these mutant polyrhythms >>would result and you could play off of them if you could feel them. >> >>The guitar loops with the MXR delays happened at least once everynight and >>an example of that is on the cut (also on Jazz Noise) called Star Wars >>Won't Work. There's also a pretty good helping of these delay solos on the >>"Guitar" album (2 cds of Zappa guitar solos! NOt a desert island disc but >>interesting in small doses). > >-- > >______________________________________________________________ >Richard Zvonar, PhD >(818) 788-2202 >http://www.zvonar.com >http://RZCybernetics.com >http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 01:20:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00315; Wed, 1 May 2002 01:18:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:18:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:15:55 +0800 Subject: Re: RC-20 review From: Darrell Havard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3103053355_176592_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3103053355_176592_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 4/16/02 11:50 PM, Reid, Benjamin at BReid@about-inc.com wrote: I get the impression not a lot of other people use the Boss RC-20. I got it primarily because it's Boss, had long loops, and was affordable. Are there other RC-20 users on the list? Seems like the EDP and Repeater are most common. On the whole I like the pedal, esp for the price point (225 used) Things I see holding it back: + No midi synch. This seems so easy I can't explain why it's not on there. + Limited time stretch. + Also seems to be a minimum loop time (I might not have learned this properly yet) which won't allow you to get lower than 1 second. I was hoping to make sub-second/stuttering loops. Anyone else have similar experiences or opinions on the pedal? Ben I love my rc-20, although it's the first looping device I've ever used. I store breakbeats in most of the banks to get an even cut loop. I'm beginning to wish I had something that would make playing with a drummer easier though. In short, it's great for storing stuff on and then looping over that, especially for the money, but if you want to do stuff on the fly, it ain't that great. --MS_Mac_OE_3103053355_176592_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: RC-20 review on 4/16/02 11:50 PM, Reid, Benjamin at BReid@about-inc.com wrote:


I get the impression not a lot of other people use the Boss = RC-20. I got it primarily because it's Boss, had long loops, and was afforda= ble. Are there other RC-20 users on the list? Seems like the EDP and Repeate= r are most common.

On the whole I like the pedal, esp for the price point (225 = used) Things I see holding it back:

+ No midi synch. This seems so easy I can't explain why it's= not on there.
+ Limited time stretch.
+ Also seems to be a minimum loop time (I might not have lea= rned this properly yet) which won't allow you to get lower than 1 second. I = was hoping to make sub-second/stuttering loops.

Anyone else have similar experiences or opinions on the peda= l?

Ben

I love my rc-20, although it's the first looping device I've ever used. &nb= sp;I store breakbeats in most of the banks to get an even cut loop.  I'= m beginning to wish I had something that would make playing with a drummer e= asier though.  In short, it's great for storing stuff on and then loopi= ng over that, especially for the money,  but if you want to do stuff on= the fly, it ain't that great.   --MS_Mac_OE_3103053355_176592_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 01:30:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00834; Wed, 1 May 2002 01:28:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:28:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:25:25 +0800 Subject: Re: New Jazzer on the list From: Darrell Havard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000d01c1ef05$c8c7d960$0749dd0c@insightbb.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 4/29/02 6:41 AM, Mark Smart at mwsmart@insightbb.com wrote: > Hi all. > I am a jazz guitarist from Champaign, IL who just joined the list. I have > been building a looping setup with two Boss RC-20 Loop Stations, and am > almost done with it. > > This jazz setup consists of an Ibanez Artist AR-250 with a Copeland hex > humbucker pickup in the neck position to split the strings so that the top > four go through a guitar amp simulator and the bottom two can go through a > Dano Chili Dog octave divider pedal and a Sansmp Bass DI for a bass sound. I > ended up with two RC-20's when a certain mail order place sent me two when I > only ordered and paid for one! After I had them for a while, I realized that > when you string two RC-20's in series you can do a lot of cool tricks like > recording a long loop over multiple repitiions of a short loop (like the > Multiply pedal on the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex). I have 4-bar jazz drum > loops (from the Peter Erskine Living Drums CD plus a few from regular jazz > CDs) stored in the first RC-20, which I play bass-and-guitar accompaniments > over, then loop the whole thing and solo on it. > > I intend to use this setup mostly for straight jazz, but I have done some > messing around in other styles. I did a few gigs using my Roland VG-8 and a > borrowed Oberheim Echoplex to do Mahavishnu Orchestra tunes and simulate a > bluegrass band. > > I'm interested to hear from other loopers doing jazz stuff, and others using > the > two-RC-20s-in-series trick. Thanks! > > Mark Smart > > hey jazzer, great to have you. you use a rc-20 and a chili dog?!!! If you were a stick player I'd say we were separated at birth! thanks for the peter erksine cd tip, I've been using funk breakbeats on my rc-20, but I've been trying to find more jazz drums. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 02:35:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA03186; Wed, 1 May 2002 02:33:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 02:33:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.79.97.43] From: "terry o'brien" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: zappa! Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:32:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 06:32:32.0133 (UTC) FILETIME=[F920CB50:01C1F0D9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes indeed, a great report! Richard, thanks for posting Bob's comments, especially the tips on Frank's looping tracks. I saw FZ play several times. I recall his great huge rack with many blinking lights and I have a rather vague memory of him referring to it as The Fridge. And... let us not forget the Electro Wagnerian Emancipator! F.Y.I. Guitar Player '95 article with great gear discription, but doesn't mention looping; http://members.tripod.com/~arf_she_said/fzints/gpoct95.html Terry wwww.anomalousdisturbances.com >From: Greg Kucharo >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: zappa!(was Re: For G-bashers) >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:16:56 -0700 > >Doctor, sir, you are appallingly well connected! > > >1:07 PM Richard Zvonar > > >At 7:12 AM -0700 4/29/02, Evan Meyers wrote: > > > >>does anyone know specifically if zappa ever really experimented with >looping > > > >I asked Bob Rice, who was Zappa's Synclavier assistant for several > >years. Bob sez: > > > >>yes, actually. During the sound checks for his live shows, he used to >send > >>everyone away and he'd just work with his guitar rig for a while at > >>extremely high volume levels, mostly just improvising stuff. He'd load > >>snippets into a pair of MXR digital delays with extended memory of up >to, I > >>think, almost 4 seconds! Anyway, on the MXRs, he' d usually create 2 > >>different loops so if they played together they'd eventually drop out of > >>sync. This was the only use for the delays in the rig and they'd have 2 > >>dedicated combo amps that were mic'd so that he could kick them in in >the > >>middle of a solo and then play over the top of them with his main rig. >The > >>drummer and bass player would have to find a groove based on or around >the > >>loops and if both were on and they went out of sync, they would listen >for > >>the polyrhythms that would result from the kaos. For a short amount of >loop > >>time, there were pretty amazing possibilities for improvisation with >good > >>players aboard. > >> > >>There is a live album called Make a Jazz Noise Here that has 2 pieces >that > >>use quite a bit of looping. One is called Fire and Chains which uses a > >>massive sample patch I built for him on the Synclavier with lots of >vocal > >>samples from the Senate hearings on Porn Rock lyrics (and warning labels >on > >>records ect.), that loop around at various rates and have pitch >modulation > >>patched to the polyphonic aftertouch on the keyboard. You'd hold down a > >>chord and use varying degrees of aftertouch on each note to change the > >>speed of the samples going round and round. Again these mutant >polyrhythms > >>would result and you could play off of them if you could feel them. > >> > >>The guitar loops with the MXR delays happened at least once everynight >and > >>an example of that is on the cut (also on Jazz Noise) called Star Wars > >>Won't Work. There's also a pretty good helping of these delay solos on >the > >>"Guitar" album (2 cds of Zappa guitar solos! NOt a desert island disc >but > >>interesting in small doses). > > > >-- > > > >______________________________________________________________ > >Richard Zvonar, PhD > >(818) 788-2202 > >http://www.zvonar.com > >http://RZCybernetics.com > >http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 04:31:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA21760; Wed, 1 May 2002 04:29:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 04:29:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004e01c1f0ea$0ca46b40$0201a8c0@eluk> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:27:08 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Folks, In alignment with webcasters, and against the pending considerations in Washington about broadcast royalties that would drive all but the majors out of the business, EarthLight Studios has removed all music links from its site. For more information about this, go to http://www.saveinternetradio.org - or contact your Congressman or Senator, and tell them to vote down the CARP recommendations. Democracy has this problem: It requires participation! Thank you for your attention but mostly your help. Stephen P. Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios - The Free Loop of the Week (Not THIS Week)! http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons! http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack.html - More Cartoons! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 07:42:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA27284; Wed, 1 May 2002 07:40:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 07:40:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [205.188.200.181] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-20 review Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:39:35 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 11:39:35.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE2BA510:01C1F104] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Has anyone tried out the other Boss ‘twin’ petals. I was thinking about the EQ one as you can have a few presets saved. Thanks Lou >From: Darrell Havard >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: RC-20 review >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:15:55 +0800 > >on 4/16/02 11:50 PM, Reid, Benjamin at BReid@about-inc.com wrote: > > >I get the impression not a lot of other people use the Boss RC-20. I got it >primarily because it's Boss, had long loops, and was affordable. Are there >other RC-20 users on the list? Seems like the EDP and Repeater are most >common. > >On the whole I like the pedal, esp for the price point (225 used) Things I >see holding it back: > >+ No midi synch. This seems so easy I can't explain why it's not on there. >+ Limited time stretch. >+ Also seems to be a minimum loop time (I might not have learned this >properly yet) which won't allow you to get lower than 1 second. I was >hoping >to make sub-second/stuttering loops. > >Anyone else have similar experiences or opinions on the pedal? > >Ben > >I love my rc-20, although it's the first looping device I've ever used. I >store breakbeats in most of the banks to get an even cut loop. I'm >beginning to wish I had something that would make playing with a drummer >easier though. In short, it's great for storing stuff on and then looping >over that, especially for the money, but if you want to do stuff on the >fly, it ain't that great. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 07:50:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA27582; Wed, 1 May 2002 07:48:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 07:48:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [151.201.151.60] From: "Jeremy Sawruk" To: Subject: RE: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 07:48:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c1f106$12927350$7450fea9@cartman> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004e01c1f0ea$0ca46b40$0201a8c0@eluk> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 11:47:17.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[F16FC8D0:01C1F105] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Then aren't you against recording artists, songwriters, composers, etc. from receiving royalties? I believe broadcast is broadcast is broadcast, even if it is webcast. Therefore, we musicians should be compensated just as we are in all other media. Sorry you are against it, and I understand where you are coming from. However, being a musician and composer who would like to benefit from broadcast royalties, I for one am telling my representatives to vote FOR the CARP recommendations. J. Sawruk P.S. The American Federation of Musicians has send email (propaganda) to all its members requesting they support the CARP recommendations. I, however, formed my conclusions prior to receiving this email. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen P. Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2002 4:27 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios Hi Folks, In alignment with webcasters, and against the pending considerations in Washington about broadcast royalties that would drive all but the majors out of the business, EarthLight Studios has removed all music links from its site. For more information about this, go to http://www.saveinternetradio.org - or contact your Congressman or Senator, and tell them to vote down the CARP recommendations. Democracy has this problem: It requires participation! Thank you for your attention but mostly your help. Stephen P. Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios - The Free Loop of the Week (Not THIS Week)! http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons! http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack.html - More Cartoons! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 08:01:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA27893; Wed, 1 May 2002 07:54:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 07:54:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001201c1f106$d91c68a0$0201a8c0@eluk> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <000201c1f106$12927350$7450fea9@cartman> Subject: Re: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:53:44 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com That's the RIAA line, yup. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Sawruk" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: RE: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios > Then aren't you against recording artists, songwriters, composers, etc. > from receiving royalties? I believe broadcast is broadcast is broadcast, > even if it is webcast. Therefore, we musicians should be compensated > just as we are in all other media. > > Sorry you are against it, and I understand where you are coming from. > However, being a musician and composer who would like to benefit from > broadcast royalties, I for one am telling my representatives to vote FOR > the CARP recommendations. > > J. Sawruk > > P.S. The American Federation of Musicians has send email (propaganda) to > all its members requesting they support the CARP recommendations. I, > however, formed my conclusions prior to receiving this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen P. Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2002 4:27 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios > > Hi Folks, > > In alignment with webcasters, and against the pending considerations in > Washington about broadcast royalties that would drive all but the majors > out > of the business, EarthLight Studios has removed all music links from its > site. For more information about this, go to > http://www.saveinternetradio.org - or contact your Congressman or > Senator, > and tell them to vote down the CARP recommendations. > > Democracy has this problem: It requires participation! Thank you for > your > attention but mostly your help. > > Stephen P. Goodman > EarthLight Productions > * > http://www.earthlight.net/Studios - The Free Loop of the Week (Not THIS > Week)! > http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons! > http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack.html - More Cartoons! > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 09:17:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30851; Wed, 1 May 2002 09:16:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:16:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c1f112$05237640$03e35cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Top 20 Report for April, 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:12:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice and CD Revolutions for April, 2002. Shows #262 to #266; 4-April-2002 to 25-April-2002 Reported in non-ranked order. Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net CONTACT: billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ============================ Akikaze - Leap in the Dark - Quantum Ashra - @shra Vol. 2 - MG-Art Craig Padilla - Folding Space and Melting Galaxies - Space for Music Eric Wollo - Wind Journey - Spotted Peccary FSP, AirSculpture, Brewer and Fox - Okefenokee Dreams 2001 - Neu Harmony and Quantum Hemisphere - Attachment X - Groove James Johnson - Odyssey - Zero Music Jim Cole - Godspace - Spectral Spiral Robert Rich and Ian Boddy - Outpost - DiN Rudy Adrian and Nick Prosser - Concerts in New Zealand - Quantum Saul Stokes - Collection of Live Recordings - none Saul Stokes - Edge of the Forest - none Saul Stokes - Washed in Mercury - Hypnos Saul Stokes - Zo Pilots - Hypnos Spacecraft - Inside the Inside - Space for Music Synergy - Reconstructed Artifacts - Third Contact T-Bass UK - The Fabulous Neutrinos - Infection Music Various Artists - Hampshire Jam Preserved - none Zero Ohms - Atma-spheric Surfaces - ZOP OPUS Zero Ohms and Brannan Lane - Soundfall to the Infinite - Space for Music From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 09:26:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA31657; Wed, 1 May 2002 09:25:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:25:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001d01c1f114$afffc760$0749dd0c@insightbb.com> From: "Mark Smart" To: References: Subject: Re: RC-20 review Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:32:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1F0EA.C6E69BE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1F0EA.C6E69BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: RC-20 reviewLike I was saying in my intro note...I like the RC-20 = and use two of 'em! The only other looping device I've used is the = Oberheim Echoplex, so that's the only thing I can compare it to. I'd say = that function-wise, two cascaded RC-20s are almost as cool as an = Echoplex (and still cheaper), because you can do the multiply function. = I also like to use one RC-20 to record a background for the head of the = tune, and the second to record a background for soloing over, then go = back to the head background at the end (this is good for Monk's Dream, = with a stop-time background on the head). I THINK you can do this on the = Echoplex using the Next Loop pedal, although I never figured out how = when I was borrowing one. For what I do, being able to keep 11 loops in memory when the power is = turned off is VERY useful for my Peter Erskine jazz loops. I don't use = any MIDI gear in my setup, so I don't really need synch capability.=20 It's nice that the RC-20 has so much more memory than a fully expanded = Echoplex, but this doesn't really impact what I do much. The longest = time I ever need is enough to record a full chorus of a ballad, and the = Echoplex's 198 seconds is plenty for that. The input mixer on the RC-20 is useful for me because I mix together the = straight guitar sound and the octave-divided bass sound there. If I used = an Echoplex, I'd have to add a mixer. Things I would change about the RC-20: 1. Eliminate the idiotic-sounding "guide" drum tracks. To me these are = absolutely useless, and I have embarrassed myself in front of an = audience more than once by forgetting to turn this knob all the way down = and having stupid pounding drums come on in the middle of a jazz tune!! = I may end up just removing the pot and soldering a jumper wire in so = that this won't happen! 2. Get rid of the dang noise gate on the input, or at least make it = possible to turn it off. If you don't have the input level up high = enough, the noise gate cuts off long notes when you play softly. This is = extremely annoying. Other than than, I think the RC-20 is a really great thing.=20 Mark Smart ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1F0EA.C6E69BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: RC-20 review
Like I was saying in my intro note...I = like the=20 RC-20 and use two of 'em! The only other looping device I've used is the = Oberheim Echoplex, so that's the only thing I can compare it to. I'd say = that=20 function-wise, two cascaded RC-20s are almost as cool as an = Echoplex (and=20 still cheaper), because you can do the multiply function. I also like to = use one=20 RC-20 to record a background for the head of the tune, and the second to = record=20 a background for soloing over, then go back to the head background at = the end=20 (this is good for Monk's Dream, with a stop-time background on the = head). I=20 THINK you can do this on the Echoplex using the Next Loop pedal, = although I=20 never figured out how when I was borrowing one.
 
For what I do, being able to keep 11 = loops in=20 memory when the power is turned off is VERY useful for my Peter Erskine = jazz=20 loops. I don't use any MIDI gear in my setup, so I don't really need = synch=20 capability.
 
It's nice that the RC-20 has so much = more memory=20 than a fully expanded Echoplex, but this doesn't really impact what I do = much.=20 The longest time I ever need is enough to record a full chorus of a = ballad, and=20 the Echoplex's 198 seconds is plenty for that.
 
The input mixer on the RC-20 is useful = for me=20 because I mix together the straight guitar sound and the octave-divided = bass=20 sound there. If I used an Echoplex, I'd have to add a = mixer.
 
Things I would change about the = RC-20:
 
1. Eliminate the idiotic-sounding = "guide" drum=20 tracks. To me these are absolutely useless, and I have embarrassed = myself in=20 front of an audience more than once by forgetting to turn this knob all = the way=20 down and having stupid pounding drums come on in the middle of a jazz = tune!! I=20 may end up just removing the pot and soldering a jumper wire in so that = this=20 won't happen!
 
2. Get rid of the dang noise gate on = the input, or=20 at least make it possible to turn it off. If you don't have the input = level up=20 high enough, the noise gate cuts off long notes when you play softly. = This is=20 extremely annoying.
 
Other than than, I think the RC-20 is a = really=20 great thing.
 
Mark Smart
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1F0EA.C6E69BE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 09:45:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA32632; Wed, 1 May 2002 09:44:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:44:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002501c1f117$4f85dfc0$0749dd0c@insightbb.com> From: "Mark Smart" To: References: Subject: Re: New Jazzer on the list Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:51:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > hey jazzer, great to have you. you use a rc-20 and a chili dog?!!! Yeah. I hate to admit it, but the Chili Dog is the best playing-bass-from-the-guitar device I've ever used. It does this better than any guitar synth, better even than the VG-8, where there is a delay when you use the pitch shifter. You can play walking bass lines at like 310 BPM and it has no problem keeping up! And it costs $40! It does bounce octaves on low notes sometimes, I'm figuring out ways around this. This is a really unusual octave pedal, the 1-octave-down output does not sound like a square wave like most octave pedals. I got curious and poked around on it with a scope. I don't think the thing even HAS an envelope follower. I think they are just multiplying the input audio signal by the octave and outputting it! This has added benefits, however. The timbre of the octave is affected by the timbre of the input signal. And it kind of sounds like an acoustic bass if you use your imagination, which is perfect for what I do. The tracking of the dynamics of the input is flawless. I can use this thing for a romantic jazz ballad and it blends in very naturally. >If you > were a stick player I'd say we were separated at birth! Maybe we were. I do play Stick a little bit. I have an '80s Ironwood 10-string that I play around with sometimes. I worked for a while on doing jazz stuff on it, but ended up being really overwhelmed with having to re-learn the whole fretboard. But if I do like the idea of the Stick for jazz....I started figuring out how to do a walking bass + chords with one hand and melody with the other. And I like all the close-voiced chords you can play. My Stick, unfortunately, has problems handling the humidity variations in the Midwest! >thanks for the > peter erksine cd tip, I've been using funk breakbeats on my rc-20, but I've > been trying to find more jazz drums. The Erskine disk is great! There is swing time at a bunch of different tempos, plus bossa nova and a bunch of funk stuff. He was careful to include time loops with no extra accents for looping. Of course, his time is solid as a rock. Also, there are individual samples of several of his drum kits, with velocity layers and, in some cases, right and left stickings. I use those, plus a few loops I have sampled from CDs: Joe Morello's drum intro from Take Five and Tony Williams' incredible cymbal playing on "Footprints" from "Miles Smiles". Mark Smart From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 10:02:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01253; Wed, 1 May 2002 10:01:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:01:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001901c1f118$96acca20$0201a8c0@eluk> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <000201c1f106$12927350$7450fea9@cartman> Subject: Re: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:00:43 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com AFM Supports Blackout: http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=36165 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Sawruk" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: RE: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios > Then aren't you against recording artists, songwriters, composers, etc. > from receiving royalties? I believe broadcast is broadcast is broadcast, > even if it is webcast. Therefore, we musicians should be compensated > just as we are in all other media. > > Sorry you are against it, and I understand where you are coming from. > However, being a musician and composer who would like to benefit from > broadcast royalties, I for one am telling my representatives to vote FOR > the CARP recommendations. > > J. Sawruk > > P.S. The American Federation of Musicians has send email (propaganda) to > all its members requesting they support the CARP recommendations. I, > however, formed my conclusions prior to receiving this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen P. Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2002 4:27 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios > > Hi Folks, > > In alignment with webcasters, and against the pending considerations in > Washington about broadcast royalties that would drive all but the majors > out > of the business, EarthLight Studios has removed all music links from its > site. For more information about this, go to > http://www.saveinternetradio.org - or contact your Congressman or > Senator, > and tell them to vote down the CARP recommendations. > > Democracy has this problem: It requires participation! Thank you for > your > attention but mostly your help. > > Stephen P. Goodman > EarthLight Productions > * > http://www.earthlight.net/Studios - The Free Loop of the Week (Not THIS > Week)! > http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons! > http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack.html - More Cartoons! > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 10:13:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01725; Wed, 1 May 2002 10:11:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:11:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.186.176.34] From: "Jeremy Sawruk" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 14:10:53 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 14:10:56.0025 (UTC) FILETIME=[02B9A890:01C1F11A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I believe there is a misunderstanding here. This is not how I read it. I believe the AFM is saying that, people should get used to the blackout idea because without financial compensation, no one will write anymore. I particularly point to this quote: "Most recording musicians are not rich or glamorous," continued Lee. "What they are is enormously talented and enormously under-compensated in relation to the value of their work. For decades, musicians struggled to make a decent living while commercial broadcasters built a hugely profitable industry based on using their creations for free. Congress was right when it changed the law to ensure that the Internet streaming industry would not be built on the same faulty basis. Recording musicians need and deserve to be paid when their work is exploited on the Web and that is what the recent arbitration decision setting a digital performance royalty rate is really all about." What this does say is that the recording industry does have faults, and that the internet broadcasters will not recreate these faults. However, he still says that musicians need and deserve to be paid for their work when it is used on the web. To reinforce this, another direct quote: "When the streaming pauses on May 1," urged Lee, "stop and think about life without musicians. Fifty percent of the new digital performance royalty payments will go directly to musicians and vocalists. Without these new income streams, recording musicians won't be able to afford to make the wonderful recordings we all crave to hear." Notice the last sentence. So even though the AFM says the welcome this day of silence, please realize that it may be sarcasm or for reasons contrary to why you are doing this. May I remind you that I am not affiliated with the AFM anymore. If anyone affiliated with them would help to clarify the issue, please feel free to. I'm not saying you're wrong, and I recognize and fully understand your reason to blackout. I just want to ensure that this debate has accurate facts from BOTH sides. J. Sawruk >From: "Stephen P. Goodman" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios >Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:00:43 +0100 > >AFM Supports Blackout: >http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=36165 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeremy Sawruk" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:48 PM >Subject: RE: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios > > > > Then aren't you against recording artists, songwriters, composers, etc. > > from receiving royalties? I believe broadcast is broadcast is broadcast, > > even if it is webcast. Therefore, we musicians should be compensated > > just as we are in all other media. > > > > Sorry you are against it, and I understand where you are coming from. > > However, being a musician and composer who would like to benefit from > > broadcast royalties, I for one am telling my representatives to vote FOR > > the CARP recommendations. > > > > J. Sawruk > > > > P.S. The American Federation of Musicians has send email (propaganda) to > > all its members requesting they support the CARP recommendations. I, > > however, formed my conclusions prior to receiving this email. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stephen P. Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2002 4:27 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: May 1 Blackout at EarthLight Studios > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > In alignment with webcasters, and against the pending considerations in > > Washington about broadcast royalties that would drive all but the majors > > out > > of the business, EarthLight Studios has removed all music links from its > > site. For more information about this, go to > > http://www.saveinternetradio.org - or contact your Congressman or > > Senator, > > and tell them to vote down the CARP recommendations. > > > > Democracy has this problem: It requires participation! Thank you for > > your > > attention but mostly your help. > > > > Stephen P. Goodman > > EarthLight Productions > > * > > http://www.earthlight.net/Studios - The Free Loop of the Week (Not THIS > > Week)! > > http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons! > > http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack.html - More Cartoons! > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 10:20:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02384; Wed, 1 May 2002 10:18:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:18:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WM-Posted-At: mail.revenue.state.il.us; Wed, 1 May 02 09:26:10 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 09:16:21 -0500 From: "KEVIN SIMONSON" To: Subject: Re: New Jazzer on the list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Actually, he is a stick player, so you'd better get ready for the talk shows. :) -K >>> darrell367@earthlink.net 04/30/02 10:25AM >>> on 4/29/02 6:41 AM, Mark Smart at mwsmart@insightbb.com wrote: > Hi all. > I am a jazz guitarist from Champaign, IL who just joined the list. I have > been building a looping setup with two Boss RC-20 Loop Stations, and am > almost done with it. > > This jazz setup consists of an Ibanez Artist AR-250 with a Copeland hex > humbucker pickup in the neck position to split the strings so that the top > four go through a guitar amp simulator and the bottom two can go through a > Dano Chili Dog octave divider pedal and a Sansmp Bass DI for a bass sound. I > ended up with two RC-20's when a certain mail order place sent me two when I > only ordered and paid for one! After I had them for a while, I realized that > when you string two RC-20's in series you can do a lot of cool tricks like > recording a long loop over multiple repitiions of a short loop (like the > Multiply pedal on the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex). I have 4-bar jazz drum > loops (from the Peter Erskine Living Drums CD plus a few from regular jazz > CDs) stored in the first RC-20, which I play bass-and-guitar accompaniments > over, then loop the whole thing and solo on it. > > I intend to use this setup mostly for straight jazz, but I have done some > messing around in other styles. I did a few gigs using my Roland VG-8 and a > borrowed Oberheim Echoplex to do Mahavishnu Orchestra tunes and simulate a > bluegrass band. > > I'm interested to hear from other loopers doing jazz stuff, and others using > the > two-RC-20s-in-series trick. Thanks! > > Mark Smart > > hey jazzer, great to have you. you use a rc-20 and a chili dog?!!! If you were a stick player I'd say we were separated at birth! thanks for the peter erksine cd tip, I've been using funk breakbeats on my rc-20, but I've been trying to find more jazz drums. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 12:15:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07951; Wed, 1 May 2002 12:14:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:14:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.204.75.191] From: "Chris Olden" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DL-4 Tricks? Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:11:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 16:11:52.0193 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7BD0710:01C1F12A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Howdy, I just picked up a DL-4 this past weekeend; a very cool little unit!! I was wondering if any DL-4 users out there have any "tricks" they have discovered with the DL-4 they'd be willing t share? Thanks! Chris Olden _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 12:49:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09547; Wed, 1 May 2002 12:48:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:48:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 09:42:35 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Pauline Oliveros recordings X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This just in from Electronic Musician editor Gino Robair. As many of you know, Pauline Oliveros is the Grandmother of Looping, although only one of her early tape delay pieces has previously been available on record. "I of IV" was one of the first live electronic pieces I ever heard, being on a 1968 Columbia Odyssey LP along with "Come Out" by Steve Reich and "Night Music" by Richard Maxfield. PO was doing many pieces with multiple tape delays in the '60s, and when digital delays became available she bought a pair of Lexicon PCM-42s which she had modified by Gary Hall. She later upped her arsenal to four PCM-42s and four PCM-70s. These days she's using Max/MSP. Pauline Oliveros: Alien Bog/Beautiful Soop (Pogus Productions). Alien Bog (1967) and Beautiful Soop (1966) were created during Oliveros's tenure as director of the San Francisco Tape Music Center at Mills College, in Oakland, California, using the first Buchla 100 series modular synthesizer and a tape-delay system of her own design. http://www.pogus.com/21012.htm Pauline Oliveros: Electronic Works (Paradigm Discs) The pieces on this disc also features Oliveros's work with tape delays, this time using sine-wave generators, pink noise, voice, and turntable. http://www.stalk.net/paradigm/ Pauline Oliveros: No Mo (Pogus Productions). Three more tape works dating from the mid '60s: Something Else and No Mo were created in 1966 at the Electronic Music Studio University of Toronto; Bog Road was created at Mills College using the Buchla Series 100. http://www.pogus.com/21023.htm The lovely works on these three discs show that Pauline Oliveros's concepts of organized sound and electronic music were way ahead of their time. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 13:50:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12576; Wed, 1 May 2002 13:48:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:48:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 10:40:45 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: CARP = CRAP In-reply-to: <004e01c1f0ea$0ca46b40$0201a8c0@eluk> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <004e01c1f0ea$0ca46b40$0201a8c0@eluk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The arguments put forth on http://www.saveinternetradio.org/pressroom.asp seem compelling to me, though I'd welcome debate that addresses the economic specifics of the CARP recommendation. The problem appears to be twofold: 1) royalties are based on a fixed rate per song, per listener rather than as a percentage of revenues, and 2) these royalties would be due retroactively to October 1998. If these figures are correct then the cost of Internet broadcast would indeed be too great for small companies. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 14:02:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13177; Wed, 1 May 2002 13:56:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:56:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <1a7.19e03f7.2a0185c3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:54:11 EDT Subject: loop IV features vol 1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just to get you all interested. Some features of the new Loop4 software for the EDP, not available with loop3. 16 loops, previously 9. New InsertModes, which change the way the Insert button works, in addition to Ins, rhr, Rev, rEP 1) HSP Halfspeed playback, and record. 2) SUB , substitute, which means that feedback is reduced to zero. 3) SUS, changes the way both Insert and Multiply buttons work, the function is ended as soon as the button is released, so you can make very short loops, or add v.short sounds together. (Granular synthesis if you like) if you like the RecorMode=SUS from loop3, then this is worth getting excited about. There are 2 new values for quantise, in addition to the old Off and CYC (=per cycle) 1)LOP quantises to the entire loop, however many cycles it contains. 2)8th quantises to an eighth note, as selected by the 8th/cycle parameter. the 8th quantise lets you divide the loop length with total accuracy, and allows you to replace single beats within the loop with a single press. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 14:24:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14904; Wed, 1 May 2002 14:23:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:23:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002f01c1f13d$5117d520$1602a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: References: <1a7.19e03f7.2a0185c3@aol.com> Subject: Re: loop IV features vol 1 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:23:39 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Just to get you all interested. > Some features of the new Loop4 software for the EDP, not available with loop3. > > New InsertModes, which change the way the Insert button works, > in addition to Ins, rhr, Rev, rEP > 1) HSP Halfspeed playback, and record. > andy butler Does this mean that you can have Reverse OR Halfspeed on the Insert footswitch or can you have both? (ie: the click or doubleclick response on the Line 6 DL/4.) Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 14:34:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15699; Wed, 1 May 2002 14:33:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:33:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020501183223.3685.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) From: SRice Subject: Re: (RC-20 review) -EQ pedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have the Boss EQ pedal and find it quite useful. As Lou suggested, you can have different presets available, but what is cool to me is to kick it on and off during a piece. As the loop is playing away I can momentarily change my EQ and volume from wet to dry or dry to wet. The live instrument can then play a phrase that comes out above the mix, then be more of an accompaniment. Yours in rhythm, Steve Has anyone tried out the other Boss ?twin? petals. I was thinking about the EQ one as you can have a few presets saved. Thanks Lou __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 14:46:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16308; Wed, 1 May 2002 14:45:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:45:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.92] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: RC-20 Review Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 13:43:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 18:43:54.0562 (UTC) FILETIME=[25181220:01C1F140] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Two RC-20's are my goal also. I want to link the remote bank switches together to operate at the same time. I want to have a series/parralle switch to change the path of the RC-20's. The outputs I plan to take to a cross fade Ernie Ball volume pedal for taking an old track to the background. I have the repair prints on the RC-20. Someday when time is better I would love to sync the two together through the reverse jack. I agree on the guide being less useful. Denis Aldrich _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 15:00:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17228; Wed, 1 May 2002 14:59:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:59:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007401c1f142$046a5ea0$0801a8c0@vz.dsl.genuity.net> From: "Clifford Novey" To: References: <20020501183223.3685.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (RC-20 review) -EQ pedal Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:57:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Steve- How much can you cut/boost the freq ranges with that thing? I wonder if it could be used for extreme eq like the Electrix EQ Killer- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "SRice" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:32 AM Subject: Re: (RC-20 review) -EQ pedal > I have the Boss EQ pedal and find it quite useful. As Lou > suggested, you can have different presets available, but > what is cool to me is to kick it on and off during a piece. > As the loop is playing away I can momentarily change > my EQ and volume from wet to dry or dry to wet. The live > instrument can then play a phrase that comes out above > the mix, then be more of an accompaniment. > > Yours in rhythm, > Steve > > > > Has anyone tried out the other Boss ?twin? petals. I was > thinking about the > EQ one as you can have a few presets saved. > Thanks > Lou > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 15:02:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17557; Wed, 1 May 2002 15:00:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:00:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (RC-20 review) -EQ pedal Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 14:59:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 18:59:13.0771 (UTC) FILETIME=[48FC3BB0:01C1F142] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks Steve, I have been using the Compressor & the mysterious pickup simulator on the GT-3 for my NS stick, which helps out the sound a lot. ie EMG :( It would be nice to check out that EQ as well as some of the patches do the simulation & it’s a little less cumbersome.. Cheers LOU >From: SRice >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: (RC-20 review) -EQ pedal >Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) > >I have the Boss EQ pedal and find it quite useful. As Lou >suggested, you can have different presets available, but >what is cool to me is to kick it on and off during a piece. >As the loop is playing away I can momentarily change >my EQ and volume from wet to dry or dry to wet. The live >instrument can then play a phrase that comes out above >the mix, then be more of an accompaniment. > >Yours in rhythm, >Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 16:50:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22522; Wed, 1 May 2002 16:47:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:47:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: RC-20 Review Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:46:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yea!! I just got the Boss LS-2 which is kind of a pedal mixer/AB box. very nice for this application with/w/out vol pedal. are repair prints available somewhere online? I'd love to customize my box as well. Ben -----Original Message----- From: Denis Aldrich [mailto:joy_top@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:44 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: RC-20 Review Two RC-20's are my goal also. I want to link the remote bank switches together to operate at the same time. I want to have a series/parralle switch to change the path of the RC-20's. The outputs I plan to take to a cross fade Ernie Ball volume pedal for taking an old track to the background. I have the repair prints on the RC-20. Someday when time is better I would love to sync the two together through the reverse jack. I agree on the guide being less useful. Denis Aldrich _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 17:05:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23335; Wed, 1 May 2002 17:02:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 17:02:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <0c0c01c1f153$10155e60$7502a8c0@digex.net> From: "Vance Gloster" To: References: <002501c1f117$4f85dfc0$0749dd0c@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: New Jazzer on the list, now OT Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:59:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smart" > Maybe we were. I do play Stick a little bit. I have an '80s Ironwood > 10-string that I play around with sometimes. I worked for a while on doing > jazz stuff on it, but ended up being really overwhelmed with having to > re-learn the whole fretboard. But if I do like the idea of the Stick for > jazz....I started figuring out how to do a walking bass + chords with one > hand and melody with the other. And I like all the close-voiced chords you > can play. If you are interested in jazz Stick, you might check out Steve Adelson. He does give lessons, but he lives in NYC. http://www.steveadelson.com/ -Vance From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 19:08:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29303; Wed, 1 May 2002 19:07:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:07:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20020501180439.008861b0@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:04:39 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: A Book On Music Composition Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, For anyone who's interested, there is a neat e-book (free) on music composition at http://www.musique.umontreal.ca/personnel/Belkin/bk/index.html I got the link from another group, started reading it, and thought some of you might like it. Anyway. M.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 19:43:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30786; Wed, 1 May 2002 19:42:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:42:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002e01c1f169$c1baf600$b164f93f@global> From: "Rick Walker/Loop.pooL" To: References: <200205011413.KAA01804@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Why I support the Internet Radio Protest Blackout on May 1st Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:41:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Loopers, I've been reading the debate sparked by Stephen Goodmans' posting about his intention to blackout his internet radio station on May 1st to protest the proposed acceptance of the CARP recommendations by the Librarian of Congress (see http://www.saveinternetradio.org/90seconds.asp) and I wanted to put in my quick two impassioned cents into the debate. This is an incredibly important event in the future of independent music. The issue is not necessarily about whether musicians and composers should be compensated for their work but more for the fact that the music business has an increasing stranglehold on the dissemination of music in this country. They are usurous and decietful in their practises.* Right now, the internet and internet radio is the ONLY way I have of getting my music out to people. I made a very decent amount of money from my entirely independently produced, manufactured and disseminated CD of abstract, loop based electronica last year (because I stepped out of the paradigm of the music industry and did everything myself) and I would never have been able to do the dance commissions, documentary soundtracks, museum appearances and other gigs if I had relied on the dominant paradigm to 'pay' me for my music. Acceptance of the CARP recommendation will effectively put independent internet radio out of business. Independent internet radio owners have proposed paying a fee to artists that will not bankrupt them. The CARP recommendations put the fee so high that only the majors will win out. They are not taking recommendations from the independents nor are they taking recommendations from the general population. This legislation will only increase the major mega-corporate music business labels stranglehold on music in the world. Please fight it!!!! yours, sincerely, Rick Walker (aka Loop.pooL) *go to this URL to read Courtney Love's insightful address to the Digital Hollywood Media Conference in New York City about the relationship of the music industry to artists. This transcript of her lengthy (and eye opening) speech really cemented my attitudes towards the major labels and the music 'business' in general. http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 19:43:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30780; Wed, 1 May 2002 19:42:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:42:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:41:57 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: A Book On Music Composition In-reply-to: <3.0.3.32.20020501180439.008861b0@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <3.0.3.32.20020501180439.008861b0@mail.airmail.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 6:04 PM -0500 5/1/02, Michael Clark wrote: >For anyone who's interested, there is a neat e-book (free) on music >composition at > >http://www.musique.umontreal.ca/personnel/Belkin/bk/index.html This looks like a good overview, and it provides references to enough musical examples to keep one busy for a while. I think this material would be most useful if one were to download it into a laptop, or to print it out, and then go to a good music library where both scores and recordings are available. Although the author seems to be interested mostly in the classical repertoire, the principles he outlines can be applied to any sort of music. This on-line book is a bit terse, though. Many of his short sections could be expanded into whole chapters. For instance, his section on the coda is only 160 words! -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 20:58:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03097; Wed, 1 May 2002 20:57:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:57:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 17:50:21 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Native Instruments FM7 X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If anyone is curious about the FM7 software synthesizer, my review on audioMIDI.com is available. If anyone else is using it I'd like to compare notes. If anyone has questions beyond what's covered in my review, feel free. http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/zvonar_fm7.cfm -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 21:06:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04765; Wed, 1 May 2002 21:05:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:05:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "M. Steven Ginn" To: Subject: RE: Native Instruments FM7 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:04:53 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01c1f175$5e4607c0$420e88cf@stevespc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Richard, I like FM7 and it was able to import my sounds from my old TX81Z. However, one drawback I see is that you can't play multiple programs at the same time like you can on the TX81z (or any other FM synth as far as I know). One of the nice things about the TX81z is the ability to layer the sounds to create even better, richer sounds. Thanks, Steve > > If anyone is curious about the FM7 software synthesizer, my review on > audioMIDI.com is available. If anyone else is using it I'd like to > compare notes. If anyone has questions beyond what's covered in my > review, feel free. > http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/zvonar_fm7.cfm -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 21:13:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05180; Wed, 1 May 2002 21:13:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:13:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1bd.7db5ef.2a01ec3e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:11:26 EDT Subject: a very nice listen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com anomalous disturbances, "THE SPIRIT MOLECULE".....ambient to say the least.....and a great web site (notes section gives a ton-o-info on the cd) www.anomalousdisturbances.com.....lots-o-canadians poppin up lately, ehh..... sounds like the entire country is hot to loop.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 21:42:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06383; Wed, 1 May 2002 21:42:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:42:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD098E7.33BF5C85@ernieball.com> Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:39:51 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Interactive Brainwave Visual Analyzer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers Delight From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: <2GZkxB.A.XjB.MlJ08@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2002/IBVA-for-MAX.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 22:06:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA08440; Wed, 1 May 2002 22:05:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 22:05:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:55:10 -0500 From: Matthew Ross Davis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Native Instruments FM7 Message-ID: <20020501205510.A17263@ratamacue.sounding.com> References: <001a01c1f175$5e4607c0$420e88cf@stevespc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001a01c1f175$5e4607c0$420e88cf@stevespc>; from sginn@airmail.net on Wed, May 01, 2002 at 08:04:53PM -0500 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i'm sticking with my TG33. :) i liked FM7 ok, but found the interface a bit overwhelming and a bit clunky. it also tended to REALLY hog processor cycles - something absynth doesn't do. M. Steven Ginn(sginn@airmail.net)@Wed, May 01, 2002 at 08:04:53PM -0500: > Hi Richard, > > I like FM7 and it was able to import my sounds from my old TX81Z. > However, one drawback I see is that you can't play multiple programs at > the same time like you can on the TX81z (or any other FM synth as far as > I know). One of the nice things about the TX81z is the ability to layer > the sounds to create even better, richer sounds. > > Thanks, > Steve > > > > > > If anyone is curious about the FM7 software synthesizer, my review on > > audioMIDI.com is available. If anyone else is using it I'd like to > > compare notes. If anyone has questions beyond what's covered in my > > review, feel free. > > > http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/zvonar_fm7.cfm > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://RZCybernetics.com > http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 22:17:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09300; Wed, 1 May 2002 22:16:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 22:16:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: zvonar@pop.pan.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001a01c1f175$5e4607c0$420e88cf@stevespc> References: <001a01c1f175$5e4607c0$420e88cf@stevespc> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:10:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Richard Zvonar Subject: RE: Native Instruments FM7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <8BR6DB.A.sQC.tFK08@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 8:04 PM -0500 5/1/02, M. Steven Ginn wrote: >one drawback I see is that you can't play multiple programs at the >same time like you can on the TX81z (or any other FM synth as far as >I know). FM7 allows you to create multiple instances ("File/New Instance" or Command-N) of the synthesizer and to assign each to its own MIDI channel ("System/MIDI Settings..."). You are limited to eight instances, which allows FM7 to be eight-part multitimbral. This feature is not clearly explained in the manual, so it's easy to see how you might have missed it. -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2203 fax http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 22:51:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10269; Wed, 1 May 2002 22:50:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 22:50:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD0A99A.494EF20B@pseudobuddha.com> Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 21:51:07 -0500 From: Bobdog Reply-To: bobdog@pseudobuddha.com Organization: Pseudo Buddha X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: 1/2 Rack Delay Suggestions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi all - i would really like to get a 1/2 rack delay unit that has tap tempo & 2 seconds of delay or so. no need for looping capabilites or repeat hold, but speed & modulation controls would be a plus. mono is fine. suggestions? thanx! bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 22:57:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10631; Wed, 1 May 2002 22:56:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 22:56:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD0AB1B.C63596A@pseudobuddha.com> Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 21:57:33 -0500 From: Bobdog Reply-To: bobdog@pseudobuddha.com Organization: Pseudo Buddha X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: Terry Bozzio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com jusy goy in from a dw/sabian sponsored terry bozzio clinic. golly. this guy has a most positive, far-reaching outlook on music in general & drumming in particular. ***looping content: terry's use of ostinato patterns on the 9 drums/hats he controls w/his feet is amazing. i walked out of this seminar very inspired & i'm just a string player. if he does a clinic in your town i would recommend attending golly. bobdog ps - and for you zappa fans, the black page was performed, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 1 23:28:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA14125; Wed, 1 May 2002 23:27:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 23:27:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020430233301.016f0a70@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: nickd/pop.mindspring.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:33:01 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: nick douglas Subject: RE: Native Instruments FM7 In-Reply-To: References: <001a01c1f175$5e4607c0$420e88cf@stevespc> <001a01c1f175$5e4607c0$420e88cf@stevespc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Can FM7 layer them on the *same* MIDI channel? I'd want a single note to make several TX81Z sounds at once. Thanks, Nick M. Steven Ginn wrote: > >>one drawback I see is that you can't play multiple programs at the >>same time like you can on the TX81z (or any other FM synth as far as >>I know). and Richard Zvonar wrote: >FM7 allows you to create multiple instances ("File/New Instance" or >Command-N) of the synthesizer and to assign each to its own MIDI >channel ("System/MIDI Settings..."). You are limited to eight >instances, which allows FM7 to be eight-part multitimbral. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 02:26:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24092; Thu, 2 May 2002 02:25:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 02:25:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020502062512.88243.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 23:25:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Richards Subject: Re: CARP=CRAP To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200205020206.WAA08665@hemlock.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com << If these figures are correct then the cost of Internet broadcast would indeed be too great for small companies.>> Which would mean that we might as well say goodbye to hearing anything interesting on the internet radio if this CARP thing goes through. Even college radio stations won't be able to come up with the kind of money that's being talked about here. If the CARP regs go into action, the only thing you're gonna be hearing on internet radio is the same stuff we hear on commercial radio, more classic rock (do we really need to hear Free Bird and Stairway To Heaven?! AGAIN?!), "smooth jazz", oldies and top 40. ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris "What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?"-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 02:46:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA25104; Thu, 2 May 2002 02:45:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 02:45:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: improv@mail.peak.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 23:45:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Dave Trenkel Subject: Re: Native Instruments FM7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >If anyone is curious about the FM7 software synthesizer, my review >on audioMIDI.com is available. If anyone else is using it I'd like >to compare notes. If anyone has questions beyond what's covered in >my review, feel free. > >http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/zvonar_fm7.cfm Nice review. I also spent a lot of the 80's programming a DX, (and just picked up a TX-416 a few years ago for peanuts). I've become a big fan of Cesare Ferrari's FMHeaven VSTi (http://www.loftsoft.co.uk/), which appears to do much of what FM7 does, but a lot cheaper. Sounds very much like the original too, I compared patches between it and the TX, and really couldn't hear a difference. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Trenkel New and Improv Music http://www.newandimprov.com improv@peak.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 03:56:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA28707; Thu, 2 May 2002 03:54:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 03:54:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <17a.7ad3916.2a024a6b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 03:53:15 EDT Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V02 #279 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 02/05/02 03:07:14 GMT Daylight Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > > New InsertModes, which change the way the Insert button works, > > in addition to Ins, rhr, Rev, rEP > > 1) HSP Halfspeed playback, and record. > > andy butler > > Does this mean that you can have Reverse OR Halfspeed on the Insert > footswitch > or can you have both? (ie: the click or doubleclick response on the Line 6 > DL/4.) Yes, thats Reverse OR Halfspeed. Reverse is still available at all times from the Timing parameter row. With a MIDI controller ALL the Insert possibilities are available separately! andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 04:12:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA30870; Thu, 2 May 2002 04:11:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 04:11:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD0F3E8.9DA3697@altruistmusic.com> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 01:08:07 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: One and a half Los Angeles Gig Spams Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello list, The one gig spam: Tuesday, May 7 Lulu's Beehive 13203 Ventura Blvd. Studio City 8:00 PM This is a FREE show. I'll be playing solo, continuing my exploration of some new LoopIV features that are steering some of my previous EDP techniques in a more overtly rhythmic, post-hip-hop direction. And I may try to cop some of the EDP ideas I tried to steal from Mr. Grob up in Oakland (not that I could possibly pull it off anywhere near as fluidly as he does it, mind you.) The half gig spam: Thursday, May 2 (i.e. TONIGHT) California Institute of the Arts 24700 McBean Parkway, Valencia 11:30 PM (approximately) with various events happening all evening This is also a free show. A bit more info regarding the event I first spammed you about last week: This will be the end of the year exhibition for the Integrated Media program at CalArts, which focuses on various mixed-media, interdisciplinary digital endeavors. Events are scheduled to happen all day; there's apparently a reception at 6:00, and my gig with Eric Oberthaler on Ableton Live and EDP will supposedly commence around 11:30 PM. (Yowza). Eric has been delving very heavily into the Live software, and is building up a sort of quasi-DJ approach with it, combining various snatches of found sounds and recordings using the program's real-time timestretching and editing functions. Our set will morph in and out of our duo EDP material and Eric's more purely Laptopism-based techique (which he'll also be displaying between various performances throughout the evening), all of which will be sync'd up to a common rhythmic pulse. Well then. --Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 10:12:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18945; Thu, 2 May 2002 10:11:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:11:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020502140957.51245.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 07:09:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: OT: Gear transport in NYC? To: loopers-delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I know this is way off topic, but I know there are several of you living/working in NYC and I've been curious about this for awhile. Given that most people don't have cars in the city, how do you get your equipment to where you're going to play? Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 10:31:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19865; Thu, 2 May 2002 10:29:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:29:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRPmjD1UwiX8iFrE/d8mQYvI6rAuQIUYrWK6Cepuy6I07doJPhXy7auJkA= From: BILLYBUDDHA@webtv.net (William Mcallister) Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 07:29:17 -0700 (PDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Gear transport in NYC? Message-ID: <9480-3CD14D3D-1042@storefull-2353.public.lawson.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Greg House 's message of Thu, 2 May 2002 07:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah, and for Chris the scuba diver, I still want to know what a scuba diver does when he gets thristy?Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 10:45:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20842; Thu, 2 May 2002 10:44:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:44:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: OT: Does anyone make a footswitch type control but that one would use in their mouth?! Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:43:51 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: Does anyone make a footswitch type control but that one would use in their mouth?! Thread-Index: AcHx58T3ySsoTtnQRx21sp1bDhm81w== From: "Wolf, Bill" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id KAA20814 Resent-Message-ID: <8IzbSC.A.dFF.0CV08@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I want to be able to trigger the sustain function on my drumkat but my feet would be otherwise occupied on the bass drum and HH trigger pedals. Does anyone make a footswitch type control but that one would use in their mouth?! Something that kind of looks like a breath controller. Hey, maybe I'm on to something. It could also have a tongue continuous controller for pitch bends:-) Bill Wolf Ness Technologies + eMail: mailto:bill.wolf@Ness-USA.com (phone: (877) 488-7222 ext.127 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 11:09:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23278; Thu, 2 May 2002 11:08:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 11:08:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 11:07:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01c1f1f3$73de9b00$1f64a8c0@billscomp> From: "Bill Cummings" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: "Bill Cummings" References: Subject: Re: Does anyone make a footswitch type control but that one would use in their mouth?! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com doesn't Latch mode do that? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf, Bill" To: Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:43 AM Subject: OT: Does anyone make a footswitch type control but that one would use in their mouth?! > I want to be able to trigger the sustain function on my drumkat but my > feet would be otherwise occupied on the bass drum and HH trigger pedals. > > Does anyone make a footswitch type control but that one would use in > their mouth?! Something that kind of looks like a breath controller. > Hey, maybe I'm on to something. It could also have a tongue continuous > controller for pitch bends:-) > > > > > > Bill Wolf > Ness Technologies > + eMail: mailto:bill.wolf@Ness-USA.com > (phone: (877) 488-7222 ext.127 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 12:18:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27621; Thu, 2 May 2002 12:17:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:17:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001601c1f1f4$6a1108a0$f42e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Subject: OT Yamaha A5000 Sampler Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 18:13:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1F205.1BCA8520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Messaggio in formato MIME composto da piů parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1F205.1BCA8520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. My studio is looking around for a sampler, and I found a really = good offer on the yamaha a5000 sampler. Has anyone of you ever tried = one? I know that it should be compatible to almost all the kinds of samples = (Wav, Aiff, Akai S1000 & S3000, Roland S760, Emu EIII), and the price is = really interesting (less then half the list price, and it is new). Obviously it will be used for loops ;-) Thanx Peace=20 Luigi ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1F205.1BCA8520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all. My studio is looking around for = a sampler,=20 and I found a really good offer on the yamaha a5000 sampler. Has anyone = of you=20 ever tried one?
I know that it should be compatible to = almost all=20 the kinds of samples (Wav, Aiff, Akai S1000 & S3000, Roland S760, = Emu EIII),=20 and the price is really interesting (less then half the list price, and = it=20 is new).
Obviously it will be used for loops=20 ;-)
 
Thanx
 
Peace
Luigi
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1F205.1BCA8520-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 13:16:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32418; Thu, 2 May 2002 13:15:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:15:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD173CC.524386BE@attglobal.net> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 13:13:48 -0400 From: Dan Ash Reply-To: danash@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: Why I support the Internet Radio Protest Blackout on May 1st Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>This is an incredibly important event in the future of independent music. Yes the CARP proposal's fee structure is absurd, and is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The proposal will kill internet radio at all the college stations, and small outfits that are trying to compete with the majors. Just the retroactive aspect will be enough to accomplish this in short order. Please - I have trouble finding anything interesting on broadcast radio - and I'm in metro New York! If internet radio isn't available I won't have access to any new music except MP3s and I don't have the bandwidth to make that practical. I wrote both my state senators and said how tired I am that our legislators just don't see past the fact that the issue is 'complex'. Why they go to the usurious record companies and clear channel fat cats for advice is beyond my comprehension. Who do they represent anyway? Sorry, I'm through venting now. I want to be able to listen to NPR and my New Afternoon Show (WNYC/WFDU) on internet radio . It's DOA without intervention of someone that's sensitive to both artists' rights and to the small provider. >> Courtney Love's insightful address to the Digital Hollywood Media Conference in New York City That article put her in a whole new light for me. I've always had respect for her as an artist -some of her music really has something to say. Figured that the temper tantrums and aggressive idiocy reported in the press are mostly a PR ploy. I now realize that she's alot brighter and tuned in than I thought. Anyway I am glad this article is still being circulated - it put the whole Napster issue in perspecitve for me... Another 'complex' issue, yes? Dan Ash From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 13:33:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00976; Thu, 2 May 2002 13:32:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:32:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:27:48 -0700 From: Dean Stiglitz Subject: re[2]: Why I support the Internet Radio Protest Blackout on May 1st To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Peter Cohen Associates X-Mailer: GoldMine [5.50.10424] Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20020502173118.DRUP4412.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@dean> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA00932 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com perhaps i don't understand all of the issues here...but it seems to me that who cares? obviously, the music biz is changing very quickly...it is absurd to think that bmi and ascap will (or ever would) allow ppl to broadcast music within their controll over the internet for free. i don't think that bmi and ascap will serve the smaller producer/composer for very much longer...they will focus their business on big money, mass marketed music. where does this leave us? well, the way i see it, we should produce our music, but not give it to ascap/bmi to enforce the copyrights. if it's used in an obvious, big money production/broadcast/package, then we individually sue or make arrangements with the "publisher". independant internet radio can thrive on music produced by "amatures"...and when the "amatures" have enough market draw to intrest ascap/bmi (read: the cake gets big enough for them to want a bite), then they will pay for the right to license the music. as performers/composers/producers, what we have is controll over how our music is used...so lets exercise it! obviously, anything that is published at this point becomes part of the de facto "public domain"...so we publish enough for free/cheaply (less than $15/cd for the consumer) to get and keep intrest, and our real value is in a "performance" or a "special presentation" of material that we do not release to the public at large. unless i'm mistaken, the carp rules don't apply to music that the major publishers don't own or have controll over...we now have to make our own paradigm. deknow From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 13:53:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02086; Thu, 2 May 2002 13:52:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:52:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:45:51 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: OT: Does anyone make a footswitch type control but that one would use in their mouth?! In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:43 AM -0400 5/2/02, Wolf, Bill wrote: >Does anyone make a footswitch type control but that one would use in >their mouth?! Something that kind of looks like a breath controller. >Hey, maybe I'm on to something. It could also have a tongue continuous >controller for pitch bends:-) A breath controller with a MIDI Solutions BC3 interface might work, though there might be some latency as the controller value ramps up to the switching threshold. Any MIDI switch is just a special case of a MIDI continuous controller, so if you were to use a pedal or fader or knob controller then any value of 63 or below would be OFF and any value above would be ON. You should be able to build a small switch that you could hold between your teeth and bite down to make contact. Two strips of springy metal separated by two spongy pads might work: | v ================== <- attach one wire here XXXXX XXXXX ================== <- attach other wire here ^ | bite here -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 14:24:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05340; Thu, 2 May 2002 14:23:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 14:23:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 11:17:40 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: re[2]: Why I support the Internet Radio Protest Blackout on May 1st In-reply-to: <20020502173118.DRUP4412.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@dean> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, danash@attglobal.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <20020502173118.DRUP4412.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@dean> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 1:27 PM -0700 5/2/02, Dean Stiglitz wrote: >perhaps i don't understand all of the issues here...but it seems to >me that who cares? I care. I belong to a composers' organization that has several Internet stations. We'd have to shut them down. >it is absurd to think that bmi and ascap will (or ever would) allow >ppl to broadcast music within their controll over the internet for >free. They already have licensing deals with some Internet radio operations. Live365 for instance, is an ASCAP licensee. Smaller stations, such as SomaFM are ASCAP and BMI licensees. http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/03/26/web_radio/ The CARP royalties would be on top of the ASCAP/BMI fees and would be considerably greater. >i don't think that bmi and ascap will serve the smaller >producer/composer for very much longer...they will focus their >business on big money, mass marketed music. They already do focus most of their attention to commercial music, but both organizations also put effort into less prominent artists. Today's small fry are often tomorrow's big fish. >well, the way i see it, we should produce our music, but not give it >to ascap/bmi to enforce the copyrights. What do you feel is wrong with ASCAP and BMI? >if it's used in an obvious, big money production/broadcast/package, >then we individually sue or make arrangements with the "publisher". Do you have the legal budget to sue a major studio? >independant internet radio can thrive on music produced by "amatures"... I for one would rather listen to Internet radio that included recordings by both amateurs and professionals. For instance, the type of programming you describe could not include music by such artists as Jon Hassell, David Torn, John Cage, Conlon Nancarrow, or even my own little project Alias Zone. >and when the "amatures" have enough market draw to intrest ascap/bmi >(read: the cake gets big enough for them to want a bite), then they >will pay for the right to license the music. It sounds like you don't know how ASCAP and BMI work. These organizations collect royalties in behalf of the composers and publishers of recorded materials that are played by their licensees such as radio stations, restaurants, and Internet broadcasters. The fees set by CARP would be paid to the record companies, who then presumably would pay them to the artists (right). They are completely separate from the ASCAP/BMI fees. >as performers/composers/producers, what we have is controll over how >our music is used...so lets exercise it! obviously, anything that >is published at this point becomes part of the de facto "public >domain"... That isn't what "public domain" means. >unless i'm mistaken, the carp rules don't apply to music that the >major publishers don't own or have controll over...we now have to >make our own paradigm. In order to avoid the CARP fees, a broadcaster needs to have individual agreements with all the artists and/or labels that they play. This is quite cumbersome and not necessarily foolproof because if this music is subsequently licensed to a major, then the original agreement becomes void. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 14:57:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07901; Thu, 2 May 2002 14:56:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 14:56:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD18BF5.A6FDB115@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:01:12 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Does anyone make a footswitch type control but that one woulduse in their mouth?! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on the subject of footswitches- the record button on my edp footpedal finally bit the dust- wondered who out there has done this repair and has any tips, sources, etc. it certainly looks staightforward, but just in case i don't wanna screw anything up... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 16:15:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14812; Thu, 2 May 2002 16:14:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 16:14:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020502201338.88567.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:13:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Re: OT: Gear transport in NYC? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20020502140957.51245.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greg - the way of the cab. usally car service of some type. and lately i've been lucky enough to have this one weekly gig on Thursday nights right around the corner from my apt. right now I go with SKBs three rack space. the new jobbies are quite nice. one bag w/various switches, Selina (gtr.) and a Sundown 1x12 though sometimes just go straight to the deck, subject to venue. best regards, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002 --- Greg House wrote: > I know this is way off topic, but I know there are > several of you > living/working in NYC and I've been curious about > this for awhile. > > Given that most people don't have cars in the city, > how do you get your > equipment to where you're going to play? > > Greg > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 16:21:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15416; Thu, 2 May 2002 16:20:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 16:20:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD19F76.1FDCBB03@ernieball.com> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 13:20:06 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Hip-Hop] BSP: Felonious w/ Armatronix @ SLO Brew Saturday 5-4-2002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Hans Lindauer From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Hip-Hop Fans, Please come by SLO Brew this Saturday night and check out Felonious and Armatronix. This show is an experiment to see whether live hip-hop is feasible in SLO, and with a little bit of support it can become a regular thing. Felonious is a band from the Bay Area whose style has much in common with the Roots, in that they've departed from the DJ paradigm in favor of live instrumentation, beat-boxing, and vocal scratching. They've also got tight MC skills. Please welcome them to the Central Coast. Armatronix will open the show, doing our best interpretation of downtempo trip-hop dub, beginning at 9:30 P.M. See you there, -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 17:27:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20646; Thu, 2 May 2002 17:25:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:25:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD1AF27.6C8AA023@friendlyspider.com> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 16:27:20 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Yamaha A5000 Sampler References: <001601c1f1f4$6a1108a0$f42e2697@o4z6b8> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I was looking at that Yamaha deal as well, but I think I'd rather same my money and go for
Akai's new Z-4 sampler which gives you a USB connection and software for your Mac & PC.
The A5000, though very powerful, is extremely slow in loading samples and if you are going to
deal with long loops, it could be excruciatingly slow.    It is also limited to 128 MB while the Z-4
can take you to 512 MB.  You might want to check it out before you invest in older technology.....
Now if you could get the A5000 for $500 or so bucks, it would be a great deal.....
http://www.akaipro.com/
If it's mostly loops you want to sample, the Repeater is probably your best bet.  But if you
want to have the ability to spread your samples out on a keyboard or control them with pads,
I'd look at the latest samplers....
--
gary
@friendlyspider.com
By the way, I'm still using an ancient Korg DSS-1 (256K) and the DSM (1 MB).
They are good workhorses for percussion samples and some retro sounds...
particularly the DSS-1....  but no loop time.
 
 

Luigi Meloni wrote:

Hi all. My studio is looking around for a sampler, and I found a really good offer on the yamaha a5000 sampler. Has anyone of you ever tried one?I know that it should be compatible to almost all the kinds of samples (Wav, Aiff, Akai S1000 & S3000, Roland S760, Emu EIII), and the price is really interesting (less then half the list price, and it is new).Obviously it will be used for loops ;-) Thanx PeaceLuigi

 
  From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 17:58:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22639; Thu, 2 May 2002 17:57:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:57:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020502215658.85676.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 14:56:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: OT: Gear transport in NYC? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20020502201338.88567.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <0X7Ba.A.IhF.sYb08@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Pedro, How do you carry all that at once? Luggage cart? Take a friend along? Greg --- Pedro Felix wrote: > Greg - > > the way of the cab. usally car service of some type. > and lately i've been lucky enough to have this one > weekly gig on Thursday nights right around the corner > from my apt. > right now I go with SKBs three rack space. the new > jobbies are quite nice. one bag w/various switches, > Selina (gtr.) and a Sundown 1x12 though sometimes just > go straight to the deck, subject to venue. > > best regards, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002 > > > --- Greg House wrote: > > I know this is way off topic, but I know there are > > several of you > > living/working in NYC and I've been curious about > > this for awhile. > > > > Given that most people don't have cars in the city, > > how do you get your > > equipment to where you're going to play? > > > > Greg > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > > http://health.yahoo.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 19:41:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31132; Thu, 2 May 2002 19:40:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:40:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <0da101c1f231$faf58c00$7502a8c0@digex.net> From: "Vance Gloster" To: References: Subject: Re: zappa!(was Re: For G-bashers) Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 16:34:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <8ct5LB.A.ylH.54c08@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In another Zappa sighting, Watermelon In Easter Hay (from Joe's Garage) is in the soundtrack of the new movie Y Tu Mama Tambien. (Spanish language with English subtitles. Pretty good story about how two wild college freshmen take an older woman on a road trip.) Though he does not use loops in the piece, the band just repeats a phrase over and over. FZ manages to keep it interesting both in the parts with a guitar melody, and the improvised solo sections even though the background never changes. Paying attention to his approach I find helpful in dealing with a similar problem in looping. -Vance From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 19:42:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31454; Thu, 2 May 2002 19:41:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:41:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 16:39:46 -0700 From: Mark Coniglio (by way of Richard Zvonar) Subject: [ANN] Public Beta: Isadora Real Time Media Processing Software X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, ACF-LA mailing list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am writing to announce the public beta of Isadora, my real-time video processing software for MacOS 9, Mac OS X, and Windows. You can download version 0.8.2 and the preliminary Isadora manual from the page at http://www.troikaranch.org/troikatronix/isadora.html Isadora is a graphic programming environment that provides interactive control over digital media, with special emphasis on the real-time manipulation of digital video. An Isadora program is created by linking together graphically represented building blocks, each of which performs a specific function: playing or manipulating digital video, capturing live video, looking for MIDI input, controlling a DV camera, etc. By linking the modules together you can create complex interactive relationships that can be controlled in real time, either with the mouse and keyboard, or with external MIDI devices. The response from those of you who have seen it has been positive, which is gratifying to me. So I hope that some of you on this list will have a look. For those of you here who have been using MAX + Nato, the interface will be quite familiar I think. As mentioned above Isadora will be for both MacOS and Windows. This public beta is for the MacOS 9.x version of the program only. The seems to run fine on OS X, but I haven't seriously tested it in that environment. The OS X version should be considered be in an alpha stage of development. There is also a Windows version on the way. My hope is to make an alpha release of the PC version in the next month or so. (If you are really burning to have it, email me...) Files created on one platform will be able to be loaded on the other. The program is available for sale now at a discounted price that will remain in effect until the 1.0 release. (Those who purchase the public beta will receive the 1.0 release too.) If you find bugs, or just have suggestions, please don't hesitate to send them to me via the page at http://www.troikaranch.org/troikatronix/isadorabugs.html Enjoy, Mark -- ================================================================ Mark Coniglio, Artistic Co-Director | troika@panix.com Troika Ranch Dance Theater | http://www.troikaranch.org ================================================================ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 20:34:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02667; Thu, 2 May 2002 20:33:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 20:33:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020503003304.75037.qmail@web20002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Meyers Subject: behringer w/ repeater midi cc's and pc's? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3CCDD4E5.F5B04CE@altruistmusic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com does anyone have a link to a correct midi implementation chart for the repeater using the behringer fcb1010? i have the 1.1 os for repeater and the manual is off...not sure by how much, but if there is a up to date chart somewhere, i'd really appreciate a link...i couldn't find one. also, are all of the face operations available via midi? the chart in my repeater manual is missing some clutch operations/techniques. thanks for any help! e va n|s sa b evanmeyers@yahoo.com (wanna jam, live in NY?, email me!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 20:49:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03545; Thu, 2 May 2002 20:48:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 20:48:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:46:06 -0400 From: skincage Subject: midiman oxygen8 To: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <010401c1f23b$e8b73e80$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sorry for the cross post. anyone have enough experience with this device to know if it might be a decent solution for repeater control? thanks! Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 20:51:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03687; Thu, 2 May 2002 20:50:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 20:50:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Om_Audio" To: Subject: OT: RAM based sampler soft Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:48:59 -0700 Message-ID: <003401c1f23c$4ff06a40$6401a8c0@we.client2.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1F201.A3919240" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1F201.A3919240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello- I have aquired a very old computer which runs great and has DOS installed- and a whopping 3712KB of RAM. I read awhile back about a sampler software that would run in DOS and keep running in RAM even if the hard drive died- just curious if anyone knows of this or related programs- thanks. Cliff http://www.om-studios.com ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1F201.A3919240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1F201.A3919240-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 21:10:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06158; Thu, 2 May 2002 21:09:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:09:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 21:07:39 -0400 From: skincage Subject: quick routing advice please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <012a01c1f23e$ebdce120$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i'm doing two shows soon, one tomorrow night, one the 11th. i'm planning on taking a headrush and vortex for their looping capabilities and also a repeater for looping the whole output/improvising with as a solo device, with a mofx along for delay and such. i'll be hooking this into my mackie cfx 12 mixer, and i know a few of you have cfx mixers so i figured i'd ask, what routing do you think would allow the most flexible setup for changing around which looper is dominant and stuff like that? i'm thinking: repeater fed by aux send 1 and 2 vortex fed by alt 3/4 mofx in repeater fx loop i'm going to try a few patching varieties out tonight and tomorrow before i go on, but i wanted to get some advice from the more experienced loopers as i'm still quite new to performance! and if you're in the dc area and want to come see what i end up doing, feel free, here's the info: http://www.aex.org/tour/washington.html thanks! Jon/skincage From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 21:15:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06837; Thu, 2 May 2002 21:14:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:14:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD1E45B.B5837163@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 18:13:55 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: SF bay area Gig spam: Sunday- SLEEPING @ JavaRama References: <3CD19F76.1FDCBB03@ernieball.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Hip-Hop fans... OK, we're probably not hip hop, but we've got a turntablist and some PHAT beats, as the kids say. Aesthetically pleasing, in other words FLY. Come here me loop 'd loop. Repeater Madness. Maybe I'll even bring out the Againinator prototype, if it's behaving. On Chapman Stick, the famous Katrin Schenk. On turntable and drum machine Gerard Honig. This Sunday night at 8:00PM we'll be making noise at the Java Rama Coffee house in Alameda, CA. Right on the main drag. Park St. and Alameda St. Easy to find, take 880 and get off at the 22nd St. Alameda exit and follow signs to Alameda. You go over a little bridge, as Alameda's an island off the coast of Oakland. If you went to Matthais's gig in Alameda, it's the same place. see you there, Mark Sottilaro Hans Lindauer wrote: > Dear Hip-Hop Fans, > > Please come by SLO Brew this Saturday night and check out Felonious and > Armatronix. This show is an experiment to see whether live hip-hop is > feasible in SLO, and with a little bit of support it can become a > regular thing. > > Felonious is a band from the Bay Area whose style has much in common > with the Roots, in that they've departed from the DJ paradigm in favor > of live instrumentation, beat-boxing, and vocal scratching. They've > also got tight MC skills. Please welcome them to the Central Coast. > > Armatronix will open the show, doing our best interpretation of > downtempo trip-hop dub, beginning at 9:30 P.M. > > See you there, > > -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 21:34:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07693; Thu, 2 May 2002 21:33:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:33:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.200.129.67] Reply-To: "Jon Wagner" From: "Jon Wagner" To: References: <012a01c1f23e$ebdce120$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Subject: Re: quick routing advice please Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 18:32:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2002 01:32:09.0215 (UTC) FILETIME=[577540F0:01C1F242] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > hooking this into my mackie cfx 12 mixer, and i know a few of you have cfx mixers so i > figured i'd ask, what routing do you think would allow the most flexible setup for changing > around which looper is dominant and stuff like that? I've got a mackie 1402, so it could be a little different. It looks like you're onto some good ideas with sends, and I'm assuming you're planning to return to channel strips which gives you a lot of flexibility (don't turn up their respective sends if you know what I mean...). I recently came up with a way to sqeeze one more stereo send from the board, using the control room outs. This'll work best if you don't need to use headphones:) If you use this as a stereo send, the solo buttons enable the send, and it can also be pre or post faders which is nice. It also has its own level control which is also nice. Just an idea to keep you on your toes. Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 2 22:08:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10291; Thu, 2 May 2002 22:07:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 22:07:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007b01c1f248$4eae56e0$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> From: "Butch" To: References: <20020503003304.75037.qmail@web20002.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: behringer w/ repeater midi cc's and pc's? Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 22:14:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes. I'm still having a problem using MIDI with the Repeater. I previously had a relic Digitech MIDI pedal that was tedious to program and use. I kinda blamed the Digitech. Yhen, I purchased a Fender Cyber-Twin MIDI pedal to use with my CT. It can be used with any other MIDI device as well. I'm confused, though. If I normally am playing a loop and want to go to the next loop, I select the next loop (say loop #2) then press Play (after the three-dot-thingy) and Loop #2 plays after loop one plays in its entirety. With MIDI, I'm assuming I can do the same thing. I start playing a loop with PC 2 (or PC 20) then enter a PC 4 (Loop Up). Then, I'm assuming I would enter a PC 2 (or 20) again after the loop is staged ( I can see that the loop is staged, but I can't get it to play). What's up with that? Is my MIDI impl. chart incorrect? If anyone can shed any light on the problem, it will be appreciated. Regards, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Meyers" To: Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: behringer w/ repeater midi cc's and pc's? > does anyone have a link to a correct midi > implementation chart for the repeater using the > behringer fcb1010? i have the 1.1 os for repeater and > the manual is off...not sure by how much, but if there > is a up to date chart somewhere, i'd really appreciate > a link...i couldn't find one. also, are all of the > face operations available via midi? the chart in my > repeater manual is missing some clutch > operations/techniques. > > thanks for any help! > e va n|s sa b > evanmeyers@yahoo.com (wanna jam, live in NY?, email > me!) > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 00:37:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17881; Fri, 3 May 2002 00:36:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 00:36:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 00:36:42 -0400 Subject: Re:Gear transport in NYC From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200205022127.RAA20883@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3103231002_3413379_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3103231002_3413379_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit One word -- taxi! --MS_Mac_OE_3103231002_3413379_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re:Gear transport in NYC One word -- taxi! --MS_Mac_OE_3103231002_3413379_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 02:25:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23577; Fri, 3 May 2002 02:24:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:24:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 23:23:50 -0800 Subject: Re: behringer w/ repeater midi cc's and pc's? From: Marklar To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <007b01c1f248$4eae56e0$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 5/2/02 6:14 PM, Butch at paulrichard10@attbi.com wrote: Is my MIDI > impl. chart incorrect? Yes. There are a bunch of typos on the MIDI implementation chart, but I'm not sure what they are, as the ones I'm using seem to be OK. I did have to end up using CC messages instead of PC messages as I couldn't get some to work. Again, I forget the specifics, but much hair was pulled from head. Maybe Electrix has an addendum to the manual on their site? Good luck. Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 02:28:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23897; Fri, 3 May 2002 02:28:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:28:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 23:27:35 -0700 Subject: Gig Spam [Seattle]: Saturday, May 4th From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat. May 4th 2 guitar solos at IMC Benefit for IMC (don't expect any big crowds) Suggested donation $5 * Sue Ann Harkey: prepared 12 string guitar solo improvisation * Tiktok: ambient solo guitar (perhaps a duet will manifest) IMC 1413 3rd Ave. (at Union St.), Seattle, Washington Doors open at 8pm Concert begins at 8:30 sharp Music concludes by 10pm Be seeing you, Travis Hartnett Tiktok From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 02:31:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24203; Fri, 3 May 2002 02:30:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:30:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020503062953.15061.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 23:29:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradley Fish Subject: Echoplex Digi Pro - syncing in 6/8 w/drum machine??? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1072193437-1020407393=:4180" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --0-1072193437-1020407393=:4180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I have my EDP controlling my Roland V-Drum brain. When I play in 4/4 everything is cool-my loops groove with the drum machine. Hwever, when I play in 6/8 the tempo comes out funny on the drum brain. Is there a parameter that I need to change on the EDP? I am still using the previous software - Loop 3, I believe...Also, Can't find the paperback manual. Is it online somewhere? Thanks!!!! Bradley Fish --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Hi,

I have my EDP controlling my Roland V-Drum brain. When I play in 4/4 everything is cool-my loops groove with the drum machine. Hwever, when I play in 6/8 the tempo comes out funny on the drum brain. Is there a parameter that I need to change on the EDP? I am still using the previous software - Loop 3, I believe...Also, Can't find the paperback manual. Is it online somewhere?  

Thanks!!!!   

Bradley Fish

 


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Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness --0-1072193437-1020407393=:4180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 04:20:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA30990; Fri, 3 May 2002 04:19:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 04:19:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Per Boysen" To: Subject: SV: Echoplex Digi Pro - syncing in 6/8 w/drum machine??? Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:17:58 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1F28B.CC4E6430" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020503062953.15061.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1F28B.CC4E6430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Brad, I usually set "8th/Cycle" to "12" in the EDP for this. Best wishes Per Boysen ________________ http://loopboy.tk www.boysen.se www.upsweden.com www.fuzz.se -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fran: Bradley Fish [mailto:bradleyfishmusic@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 3 maj 2002 08:30 Till: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Amne: Echoplex Digi Pro - syncing in 6/8 w/drum machine??? Hi, I have my EDP controlling my Roland V-Drum brain. When I play in 4/4 everything is cool-my loops groove with the drum machine. Hwever, when I play in 6/8 the tempo comes out funny on the drum brain. Is there a parameter that I need to change on the EDP? I am still using the previous software - Loop 3, I believe...Also, Can't find the paperback manual. Is it online somewhere? Thanks!!!! Bradley Fish ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1F28B.CC4E6430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Brad,
 
I=20 usually set "8th/Cycle" to "12" in the EDP for this. =

Best wishes

Per = Boysen
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www.boysen.se
www.upsweden.co= m
www.fuzz.se=20

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Från: = Bradley Fish=20 [mailto:bradleyfishmusic@yahoo.com]
Skickat: den 3 maj 2002=20 08:30
Till: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Ämne:=20 Echoplex Digi Pro - syncing in 6/8 w/drum = machine???

Hi,=20

I have my EDP controlling my Roland V-Drum brain. When I play in = 4/4=20 everything is cool-my loops groove with the drum machine. Hwever, when = I play=20 in 6/8 the tempo comes out funny on the drum brain. Is there a = parameter that=20 I need to change on the EDP? I am still using the previous software - = Loop 3,=20 I believe...Also, Can't find the paperback manual. Is it online=20 somewhere?  =20

Thanks!!!!   =20

Bradley Fish

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1F28B.CC4E6430-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 09:01:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13897; Fri, 3 May 2002 09:00:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:00:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.199.73.103] From: "mommama" To: References: Subject: Re: Re:Gear transport in NYC Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:00:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1F280.F37129E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2002 12:59:24.0720 (UTC) FILETIME=[59BBFB00:01C1F2A2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1F280.F37129E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re:Gear transport in NYC Rental car is good too for larger hauls- doesn't Enterprise come right = to your house- aah- apartment? Kevin ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1F280.F37129E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re:Gear transport in NYC
 
 
Rental car is good too for larger = hauls- doesn't=20 Enterprise come right to your house- aah- apartment?
 
Kevin
 
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1F280.F37129E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 09:01:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13973; Fri, 3 May 2002 09:01:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:01:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Robin.Bussell@axa-sunlife.co.uk X-Lotus-FromDomain: AXA SUN LIFE@SUNLIFE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <80256BAE.004523E2.00@10.7.40.1> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:26:19 +0100 Subject: Re: re[2]: Why I support the Internet Radio Protest Blackout on May 1st Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK, here's a worst case scenario: It may well appear overly paranoid to most of you but bear in mind that once a medium goes digital then it is ultimately lockable and signable by any number of encryption solutions and also the playback of that media is ultimately under the control of those who can afford to set up chip fabrication plant.... Not a garage business by any means! So put on your cynical head, slip into Orwellian nightmare mode and: >as performers/composers/producers, what we have is controll over how our music is used... >..so we publish enough for free/cheaply That is until all the proposed digital rights management systems are in place and you suddenly find that you can't even produce media that will be readable on the state of the art mass market devices out there. No more back room CDR publishing, (or its equivalent) if it doesn't come from one of the big boys and have the right signiture embedded in the data then the playback devices just assume it's pirated and refuse to play (or even auto erase). The same will go for software that receives audio data streams from the net. Open source will provide alternative solutions you say? Not if the 'trustworthy computing' initiative goes ahead and the only code that the motherboard bios (or cpu microcode or whatever other non trivially modifiable component of the system is used ) will let near the audio hardware is code that has been approved by the central authorities (be they Microsoft, Sony, the Ancient Order of Bavarian Illuminati... whoever) So one day you upgrade your PC (or buy a new recording device ) and find that none of the old MP3 players work, you can only playback "MMF" files and guess what there's no conversion software available that doesn't involve signing up for a hugely bewildering license agreement and handing over a few hundred K. Hell the player won't even start up untill it has phoned home and downloaded the latest codec, set of signiatures and new encryption keys to replace those cracked yesterday. Great, guess you'll just have to settle back and listen to the latest single from BoyKlone II or Atomic Mutton that came pre-loaded on the pc and you begin to remember what drove you away from FM radio all those years ago. Meanwhile you've finished downloading drivers and a patch for your favorite DAW software that now actually seems to work on your PC, great! Soon you're laying down a few tracks and soloing over them, shame all your old sample CD's (the royalty free ones you bought a while back, paying over the odds for the rights to use them in your own recordings without the hassle of getting every sample cleared ) don't seem to work in the CD/DVD/NUEZDisc(TM) drive any more and hey! since when did they stop putting analogue outputs on those drives! Oh yeah I remember, the press release said that the NUEZDisc(TM) consortium had decided that the inferior analogue format was now obsolete and agreed amongst themselves to not bother with it in the new spec thus saving on manufacture price and eliminating some bothersome components which this chart here shows were the cause of over 50% of malfunctions on the previous drives, so it's all for your own good in the cause of better reliability and service to you, our esteemed customers. Never mind, at least you can record some music of your own now but hang on... what the F... is that format? Where's my wavs! Hmmm, better read that splash screen properly.... "Thank you for deciding to demo the Maxwell Media Format drivers, you have used up 5 of your 20 free acesses*, why not upgrade to our platinum 'pay to play' program and let the EZupload wizard make putting your tunes on line at www.megamediacorp.com as easy as EGBDF! * Free trial files are reproducable only on the device of origin, other restrictions may apply " ....get the idea? The sort of wide ranging laws that are being sought could easily be the thin end of the wedge, before you know it the digital broadcast revolution is no more, sure you have free speech but only to those who can be bothered to stand in earshot while the majority sit at home infront of MTV. The technology is there to create monopolies the like of which have not been seen before. Don't say I didn't warn you..... Robin. ==================================================================== The contents and any attachments of this electronic mail message are confidential and intended only for the named addressees. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 09:23:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15561; Fri, 3 May 2002 09:22:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:22:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <34.26fbddbc.2a03e8e0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:21:36 EDT Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V02 #281 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: <7XeTmB.A.GyD.I8o08@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 03/05/02 09:22:56 GMT Daylight Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > EDP controlling my Roland V-Drum brain. When I play in 4/4 everything is > cool-my loops groove with the drum machine. Hwever, when I play in 6/8 the > tempo comes out funny on the drum brain. Is there a parameter that I need to > change on the EDP? I am still using the previous software - Loop 3, I believe. > ..Also, Can't find the paperback manual. Is it online somewhere? > Thanks!!!! > Bradley Fish the manual:- http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/Echoplex_Manual.pdf lots of echoplex stuff on the LD site and sort your problem by changing the 8th/cycle parameter. try 6 or 12 andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 09:25:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15895; Fri, 3 May 2002 09:24:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:24:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <150.d51d6a4.2a03e962@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:23:46 EDT Subject: Re: Subject: Echoplex Digi Pro - syncing in 6/8 w/drum machine??? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: <1ppYaB.A.93D.J-o08@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 03/05/02 09:22:56 GMT Daylight Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > EDP controlling my Roland V-Drum brain. When I play in 4/4 everything is > cool-my loops groove with the drum machine. Hwever, when I play in 6/8 the > tempo comes out funny on the drum brain. Is there a parameter that I need to > change on the EDP? I am still using the previous software - Loop 3, I believe. > ..Also, Can't find the paperback manual. Is it online somewhere? > Thanks!!!! > Bradley Fish the manual:- http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/Echoplex_Manual.pdf lots of echoplex stuff on the LD site and sort your problem by changing the 8th/cycle parameter. try 6 or 12 andy butler with apologies to bandwidth watchers for the double send with the dumb useless subject From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 10:42:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20960; Fri, 3 May 2002 10:41:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:41:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020503144012.99564.qmail@web12001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 07:40:12 -0700 (PDT) From: philip raath Subject: Re: midiman oxygen 8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200205030820.EAA31223@hemlock.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Subject: midiman oxygen8 > > sorry for the cross post. anyone have enough > experience with this device to know if it might > be a decent solution for repeater control? > > thanks! > > Jon this is what torn uses for such things. check out the real audio at kcrw.com http://www.kcrw.com/cgi-bin/db/kcrw.pl?show_code=mb&air_date=3/11/02&tmplt_type=show the show is morning becomes eclectic. peace phil ===== "Compassion is the sometimes fatal capacity for feeling what it's like to live inside somebody else's skin. It is the knowledge that there can never really be any peace and joy for me until there is peace and joy finally for you too." -Frederick Buechner "The jewel is in the lotus." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 10:43:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21224; Fri, 3 May 2002 10:42:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:42:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRJTL3duAllWcC58Q6NAG/APYdGXAIUK9EIMBvSd4lb0wLviM+jo4mTEV8= From: BILLYBUDDHA@webtv.net (William Mcallister) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 07:41:37 -0700 (PDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: zappa!(was Re: For G-bashers) Message-ID: <29494-3CD2A1A1-2884@storefull-2351.public.lawson.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Vance Gloster" 's message of Thu, 2 May 2002 16:34:58 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is Baby Snakes still available on video? I'm having a hard time locating one. Bill'Las Vegas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 10:44:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21283; Fri, 3 May 2002 10:43:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:43:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FW: OT: Greene's REmix Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:42:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Loopers, Got this on another list I'm on, thought you would enjoy it. Michael Greene's Grammy speech remixed: http://www.ntk.net/2002/04/26/riaa_we_love_you.mp3 Enjoy, Carl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 13:18:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32356; Fri, 3 May 2002 13:17:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:17:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020503171648.5289.qmail@web20009.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Meyers Subject: Re: zappa!(was Re: For G-bashers) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <29494-3CD2A1A1-2884@storefull-2351.public.lawson.webtv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i managed to nab a copy of the 2 vhs somewhere along the way... but that was a few years ago...if you look hard enough, i'm sure you'll find it. --- William Mcallister wrote: > Is Baby Snakes still available on video? I'm having > a hard time locating > one. Bill'Las Vegas > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 13:44:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01333; Fri, 3 May 2002 13:42:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 13:42:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020503103507.0266eea8@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 10:37:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: re[2]: Why I support the Internet Radio Protest Blackout on May 1st In-Reply-To: <80256BAE.004523E2.00@10.7.40.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <8MPGIB.A.VU.zvs08@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com golly, I guess everybody will have to back to playing and listening to live music again! At 05:26 AM 5/3/2002, Robin.Bussell@axa-sunlife.co.uk wrote: >OK, here's a worst case scenario: It may well appear overly paranoid ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 14:12:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04050; Fri, 3 May 2002 14:11:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:11:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 11:12:30 -0700 From: Miko Biffle Subject: Re: re[2]: Why I support the Internet Radio Protest Blackout on May 1st To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <003801c1f2ce$171ac660$1d02a8c0@MyComputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <80256BAE.004523E2.00@10.7.40.1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jeeze Robin, you ARE cynical... and so am I. I believe corporate powers will do their best to enact *every* scenario you've mentioned, and the only thing that stands in their way is little old US. I have very little faith that we'll make the difference, but if we don't try no one else will... We'll see how it goes with the CARP recommendations... -Miko ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:26 AM Subject: Re: re[2]: Why I support the Internet Radio Protest Blackout on May 1st > > > > OK, here's a worst case scenario: It may well appear overly paranoid to most of > you but bear in mind that once a medium goes digital then it is ultimately > lockable and signable by any number of encryption solutions and also the > playback of that media is ultimately under the control of those who can afford > to set up chip fabrication plant.... Not a garage business by any means! > > So put on your cynical head, slip into Orwellian nightmare mode and: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 14:29:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05326; Fri, 3 May 2002 14:27:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:27:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020503182630.46477.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 11:26:30 -0700 (PDT) From: SRice Subject: Re: (RC-20 review) -EQ pedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The EQ pedal does +- 15 dB, not as much as I'd like, but still pretty handy. Yours in rhythm, Steve ---------------------------------------------------- Hey Steve- How much can you cut/boost the freq ranges with that thing? I wonder if it could be used for extreme eq like the Electrix EQ Killer- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "SRice" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:32 AM Subject: Re: (RC-20 review) -EQ pedal > I have the Boss EQ pedal and find it quite useful. As Lou > suggested, you can have different presets available, but > what is cool to me is to kick it on and off during a piece. > As the loop is playing away I can momentarily change > my EQ and volume from wet to dry or dry to wet. The live > instrument can then play a phrase that comes out above > the mix, then be more of an accompaniment. > > Yours in rhythm, > Steve > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 15:35:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10276; Fri, 3 May 2002 15:34:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:34:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: OT: Phaser recommend Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:33:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1F2D9.61A876E0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F2D9.61A876E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry for OT post but this is a good group to query. Wondering if people have a recommend on a dedicated commercial or kit phaser. I am looking for one that is already very versitile or can be modded to produce a very long phase period (up to 60 seconds). Additionally, a sawtooth waveform would be super-cool as well. Most of the commercial pedals I have seen are not extreme enough for my purposes; some kits I have found online look promising; I have not investigated rackmount units yet. Any suggestions are appreciated!! Thanks, Ben ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F2D9.61A876E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Phaser recommend

Sorry for OT post but this is a good group to query. = Wondering if people have a recommend on a dedicated commercial or kit = phaser. I am looking for one that is already very versitile or can be = modded to produce a very long phase period (up to 60 seconds). = Additionally, a sawtooth waveform would be super-cool as well. Most of = the commercial pedals I have seen are not extreme enough for my = purposes; some kits I have found online look promising; I have not = investigated rackmount units yet.

Any suggestions are appreciated!!

Thanks,

Ben

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F2D9.61A876E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 17:13:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16567; Fri, 3 May 2002 17:12:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:12:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Paul Weissman" To: Subject: repeater pc import/export software - need comments Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:13:50 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i just finished an early version of a utility that allows users to extract wave data from repeater Track files and create repeater compatible Tracks from your own loops. this will (hopefully) alleviate the need for all the manual loop creation and editing that you have to do to get your material in and out of the repeater. i'm curious what the interest in a public release of such a tool would be. anyone interested? if so, i can clean it up and make it available. any other things that you'd like a utility like this to do? paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 17:20:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17064; Fri, 3 May 2002 17:20:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:20:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009301c1f2e8$22d98620$0801a8c0@vz.dsl.genuity.net> From: "Clifford Novey" To: References: Subject: Re: repeater pc import/export software - need comments Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:18:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wow- how cool! You might consider posting to the Electrix Forum with this- I am sure plenty of people would be interested- heck- if the code is good enough I bet you could get Electrix to support it as an Electrix app- maybe. I would love to be able to audition loops on my pc as they would on the Repeater- and not just going into the folder and playing 1 of the 4 tracks. Maybe even just a select-and-hear type operation- click once on a folder and hear the loops- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Weissman" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:13 PM Subject: repeater pc import/export software - need comments > > i just finished an early version of a utility that allows users to extract > wave data from repeater Track files and create repeater compatible Tracks > from your own loops. this will (hopefully) alleviate the need for all the > manual loop creation and editing that you have to do to get your material in > and out of the repeater. > > i'm curious what the interest in a public release of such a tool would be. > anyone interested? if so, i can clean it up and make it available. > > any other things that you'd like a utility like this to do? > > paul > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 17:21:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17113; Fri, 3 May 2002 17:20:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:20:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD2FEC5.80209@cabq.gov> Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 15:19:01 -0600 From: Jason Fink User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater pc import/export software - need comments References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sounds like a cool utility... I definitly could use such a thing just for importing drum loops. -jas http://dimbulb.org Paul Weissman wrote: >i just finished an early version of a utility that allows users to extract >wave data from repeater Track files and create repeater compatible Tracks >from your own loops. this will (hopefully) alleviate the need for all the >manual loop creation and editing that you have to do to get your material in >and out of the repeater. > >i'm curious what the interest in a public release of such a tool would be. >anyone interested? if so, i can clean it up and make it available. > >any other things that you'd like a utility like this to do? > >paul > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 17:27:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17621; Fri, 3 May 2002 17:22:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:22:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Nathan Bannow" To: Subject: RE: repeater pc import/export software - need comments Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 16:28:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com YES YES YES!!! -----Original Message----- From: Paul Weissman [mailto:paul@nioterra.com] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: repeater pc import/export software - need comments i just finished an early version of a utility that allows users to extract wave data from repeater Track files and create repeater compatible Tracks from your own loops. this will (hopefully) alleviate the need for all the manual loop creation and editing that you have to do to get your material in and out of the repeater. i'm curious what the interest in a public release of such a tool would be. anyone interested? if so, i can clean it up and make it available. any other things that you'd like a utility like this to do? paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 20:29:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28134; Fri, 3 May 2002 20:28:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:28:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sent: 4 May 2002 00:27:44 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "timothy crowe" Subject: Re: repeater pc import/export software - need comments X-Sent-From: seemso@directvinternet.com Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:27:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Web Mail 5.0.8-8 Sender: seemso@directvinternet.com Message-Id: <20020503172744.4334.h001.c007.wm@mail.directvinternet.com.criticalpath.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com very cool . . . . thanks t. "Paul Weissman" wrote > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Importance: Normal > Message-Id: > From: "Paul Weissman" > Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:12:00 -0400 > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19434 > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 > Received: (cpmta 12053 invoked from network); 3 May 2002 14:12:54 -0700 > Received: from 207.228.238.9 (HELO hemlock.violacea.com) > by smtp.c007.snv.cp.net (209.228.33.237) with SMTP; 3 May 2002 14:12:54 -0700 > Received: (from looper@localhost) > by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16567; > Fri, 3 May 2002 17:12:00 -0400 > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:13:50 -0700 > X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > X-Msmail-Priority: Normal > Resent-Message-Id: > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > X-Received: 3 May 2002 21:12:54 GMT > Subject: repeater pc import/export software - need comments > Precedence: list > Delivered-To: directvinternet.com%seemso@directvinternet.com > Return-Path: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > To: > Old-Return-Path: > > > i just finished an early version of a utility that allows users to extract > wave data from repeater Track files and create repeater compatible Tracks > from your own loops. this will (hopefully) alleviate the need for all the > manual loop creation and editing that you have to do to get your material in > and out of the repeater. > > i'm curious what the interest in a public release of such a tool would be. > anyone interested? if so, i can clean it up and make it available. > > any other things that you'd like a utility like this to do? > > paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 20:35:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28474; Fri, 3 May 2002 20:34:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:34:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020504003408.63989.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:34:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Re: OT: Gear transport in NYC? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20020502215658.85676.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <2IeSMB.A.r8G.Byy08@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greg - 'lil folding hand truck works like a charm, and a friend or two usually come along. though once again last night I played a gig without an amp, if I could only get rid of my love of "pushing air" i'd be set. best, Pedro --- Greg House wrote: > Pedro, > > How do you carry all that at once? Luggage cart? > Take a friend along? > > Greg > > > --- Pedro Felix wrote: > > Greg - > > > > the way of the cab. usally car service of some > type. > > and lately i've been lucky enough to have this one > > weekly gig on Thursday nights right around the > corner > > from my apt. > > right now I go with SKBs three rack space. the new > > jobbies are quite nice. one bag w/various > switches, > > Selina (gtr.) and a Sundown 1x12 though sometimes > just > > go straight to the deck, subject to venue. > > > > best regards, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002 > > > > > > --- Greg House wrote: > > > I know this is way off topic, but I know there > are > > > several of you > > > living/working in NYC and I've been curious > about > > > this for awhile. > > > > > > Given that most people don't have cars in the > city, > > > how do you get your > > > equipment to where you're going to play? > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and > wellness > > > http://health.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > > http://health.yahoo.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 22:30:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02140; Fri, 3 May 2002 22:29:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:29:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004c01c1f314$77a0b1c0$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> From: "Butch" To: Subject: Ready to dump Repeater Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:36:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C1F2F2.F03B2560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C1F2F2.F03B2560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Man, I tell ya. The Repeater is a nice unit. Except it's foot pedal = controls (both with a three-button Digitech and a MIDI controller) leave = a lot to be desired. The EDP leaves it in the dust in that department. I haven't been able to change loops without using my hands since I got = the thing. I'm on my second MIDI pedal. I thought my original somewhat = archaic Digitech PDS-type was not the best device to use and since sold = it. I purchased a Fender Cyber-Twin MIDI Foot Pedal with the intention = of using it for the CT as well as the Repeater. It's a real simple pedal = to use. Sends PC and can send CC. Most of the MIDI functions I tried worked BUT when a new loop is = selected (after being created), ex. LOOP UP, I can't get the darn thing = to PLAY. I opened a case with Electrix and they're helpful but it seems = weird that a simple function can't be made to work. I'm running 1.1, = BTW. This problem is really starting to get on my nerves. As a guitar player, = stopping to manually initiate Loop Up or Loop Down ain't gonna cut it. Electrix should have, in the first place, took a lesson from Gibson and = used more than a 3 switch pedal. You got to be able to Loop Up or Down. Oh well, must have been the bad Martinis I drank earlier. Regards, Butch ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C1F2F2.F03B2560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Man, I tell ya. The Repeater is a nice = unit. Except=20 it's foot pedal controls (both with a three-button Digitech and a MIDI=20 controller) leave a lot to be desired. The EDP leaves it in the dust in = that=20 department.
 
I haven't been able to change loops = without using=20 my hands since I got the thing. I'm on my second MIDI pedal. I thought = my=20 original somewhat archaic Digitech PDS-type was not the best device to = use and=20 since sold it. I purchased a Fender Cyber-Twin MIDI Foot Pedal with the=20 intention of using it for the CT as well as the Repeater. It's a real = simple=20 pedal to use. Sends PC and can send CC.
 
Most of the MIDI functions I tried = worked BUT when=20 a new loop is selected (after being created), ex. LOOP UP, I can't get = the darn=20 thing to PLAY. I opened a case with Electrix and they're helpful but it = seems=20 weird that a simple function can't be made to work. I'm running 1.1,=20 BTW.
 
This problem is really starting to get = on my=20 nerves. As a guitar player, stopping to manually initiate Loop Up or = Loop Down=20 ain't gonna cut it.
 
Electrix should have, in the first = place, took a=20 lesson from Gibson and used more than a 3 switch pedal. You got to be = able to=20 Loop Up or Down.
 
Oh well, must have been the bad = Martinis I drank=20 earlier.
 
Regards, = Butch
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C1F2F2.F03B2560-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 23:18:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05068; Fri, 3 May 2002 23:17:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:17:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 20:17:30 -0800 Subject: Re: Ready to dump Repeater From: Marklar To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004c01c1f314$77a0b1c0$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3103301851_75942_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3103301851_75942_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I've had success using a Behringer FCP1010 to send loop up and down info, and then use the Digitech FS300 to cue up a play or record function. Seems to work fine, although a little clumsey. I've not tried to make the Behringer do it all yet. Mark on 5/3/02 6:36 PM, Butch at paulrichard10@attbi.com wrote: Man, I tell ya. The Repeater is a nice unit. Except it's foot pedal controls (both with a three-button Digitech and a MIDI controller) leave a lot to be desired. The EDP leaves it in the dust in that department. I haven't been able to change loops without using my hands since I got the thing. I'm on my second MIDI pedal. I thought my original somewhat archaic Digitech PDS-type was not the best device to use and since sold it. I purchased a Fender Cyber-Twin MIDI Foot Pedal with the intention of using it for the CT as well as the Repeater. It's a real simple pedal to use. Sends PC and can send CC. Most of the MIDI functions I tried worked BUT when a new loop is selected (after being created), ex. LOOP UP, I can't get the darn thing to PLAY. I opened a case with Electrix and they're helpful but it seems weird that a simple function can't be made to work. I'm running 1.1, BTW. This problem is really starting to get on my nerves. As a guitar player, stopping to manually initiate Loop Up or Loop Down ain't gonna cut it. Electrix should have, in the first place, took a lesson from Gibson and used more than a 3 switch pedal. You got to be able to Loop Up or Down. Oh well, must have been the bad Martinis I drank earlier. Regards, Butch --MS_Mac_OE_3103301851_75942_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ready to dump Repeater I've had success using a Behringer FCP1010 to send loop up and down info, a= nd then use the Digitech FS300 to cue up a play or record function.  Se= ems to work fine, although a little clumsey.  I've not tried to make th= e Behringer do it all yet.

Mark

on 5/3/02 6:36 PM, Butch at paulrichard10@attbi.com wrote:

Man, I tell ya. The Repeater = is a nice unit. Except it's foot pedal controls (both with a three-button Di= gitech and a MIDI controller) leave a lot to be desired. The EDP leaves it i= n the dust in that department.
I haven't been able to change loops witho= ut using my hands since I got the thing. I'm on my second MIDI pedal. I thou= ght my original somewhat archaic Digitech PDS-type was not the best device t= o use and since sold it. I purchased a Fender Cyber-Twin MIDI Foot Pedal wit= h the intention of using it for the CT as well as the Repeater. It's a real = simple pedal to use. Sends PC and can send CC.
Most of the MIDI functions I tried worked= BUT when a new loop is selected (after being created), ex. LOOP UP, I can't= get the darn thing to PLAY. I opened a case with Electrix and they're helpf= ul but it seems weird that a simple function can't be made to work. I'm runn= ing 1.1, BTW.
This problem is really starting to get on= my nerves. As a guitar player, stopping to manually initiate Loop Up or Loo= p Down ain't gonna cut it.
Electrix should have, in the first place,= took a lesson from Gibson and used more than a 3 switch pedal. You got to b= e able to Loop Up or Down.
Oh well, must have been the bad Martinis = I drank earlier.
Regards, Butch


--MS_Mac_OE_3103301851_75942_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 23:34:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05762; Fri, 3 May 2002 23:33:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:33:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006401c1f31d$92391460$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> From: "Butch" To: References: Subject: Re: Ready to dump Repeater Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:41:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C1F2FC.0ACA6040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C1F2FC.0ACA6040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ready to dump RepeaterHi, Mark: Yes, that does indeed work (MIDI for Loop Up & Down) and Digitech for = Play. I'm thinking of spinning a pie plate on a stick in my mouth while = I play guitar and 'tap dance' as well. Hehehe...Too bad Ed Sullivan = isn't still alive. 'gards, Butch ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marklar=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: Re: Ready to dump Repeater I've had success using a Behringer FCP1010 to send loop up and down = info, and then use the Digitech FS300 to cue up a play or record = function. Seems to work fine, although a little clumsey. I've not = tried to make the Behringer do it all yet. Mark on 5/3/02 6:36 PM, Butch at paulrichard10@attbi.com wrote: Man, I tell ya. The Repeater is a nice unit. Except it's foot pedal = controls (both with a three-button Digitech and a MIDI controller) leave = a lot to be desired. The EDP leaves it in the dust in that department. I haven't been able to change loops without using my hands since I = got the thing. I'm on my second MIDI pedal. I thought my original = somewhat archaic Digitech PDS-type was not the best device to use and = since sold it. I purchased a Fender Cyber-Twin MIDI Foot Pedal with the = intention of using it for the CT as well as the Repeater. It's a real = simple pedal to use. Sends PC and can send CC. Most of the MIDI functions I tried worked BUT when a new loop is = selected (after being created), ex. LOOP UP, I can't get the darn thing = to PLAY. I opened a case with Electrix and they're helpful but it seems = weird that a simple function can't be made to work. I'm running 1.1, = BTW. This problem is really starting to get on my nerves. As a guitar = player, stopping to manually initiate Loop Up or Loop Down ain't gonna = cut it. Electrix should have, in the first place, took a lesson from Gibson = and used more than a 3 switch pedal. You got to be able to Loop Up or = Down. Oh well, must have been the bad Martinis I drank earlier. Regards, Butch ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C1F2FC.0ACA6040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ready to dump Repeater
Hi, Mark:
 
Yes, that does indeed work (MIDI for = Loop Up &=20 Down) and Digitech for Play. I'm thinking of spinning a pie plate on a = stick in=20 my mouth while I play guitar and 'tap dance'  as well. Hehehe...Too = bad Ed=20 Sullivan isn't still alive.
 
'gards, Butch
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Marklar=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 = 12:17=20 AM
Subject: Re: Ready to dump = Repeater

I've had success using a Behringer FCP1010 to send loop = up and=20 down info, and then use the Digitech FS300 to cue up a play or record=20 function.  Seems to work fine, although a little clumsey. =  I've not=20 tried to make the Behringer do it all yet.

Mark

on = 5/3/02 6:36=20 PM, Butch at paulrichard10@attbi.com=20 wrote:

Man, I tell ya. The = Repeater is a=20 nice unit. Except it's foot pedal controls (both with a three-button = Digitech and a MIDI controller) leave a lot to be desired. The EDP = leaves it=20 in the dust in that department.

I haven't been able to change loops without using my = hands since=20 I got the thing. I'm on my second MIDI pedal. I thought my original = somewhat=20 archaic Digitech PDS-type was not the best device to use and since = sold it.=20 I purchased a Fender Cyber-Twin MIDI Foot Pedal with the intention = of using=20 it for the CT as well as the Repeater. It's a real simple pedal to = use.=20 Sends PC and can send CC.

Most of the MIDI functions I tried worked BUT when a = new loop is=20 selected (after being created), ex. LOOP UP, I can't get the darn = thing to=20 PLAY. I opened a case with Electrix and they're helpful but it seems = weird=20 that a simple function can't be made to work. I'm running 1.1,=20 BTW.

This = problem is=20 really starting to get on my nerves. As a guitar player, stopping to = manually initiate Loop Up or Loop Down ain't gonna cut=20 it.

Electrix = should have,=20 in the first place, took a lesson from Gibson and used more than a 3 = switch=20 pedal. You got to be able to Loop Up or = Down.

Oh well, must have been the bad Martinis = I drank=20 earlier.

Regards,=20 = Butch


------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C1F2FC.0ACA6040-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 3 23:38:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06089; Fri, 3 May 2002 23:36:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:36:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000401c1f31d$fddffa80$0749dd0c@insightbb.com> From: "Mark Smart" To: References: Subject: Re: RC-20 Review Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:44:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Two RC-20's are my goal also. >I want to link the remote bank switches together to operate at the same >time. I've thought about doing hacks like this, but haven't worked on it yet. I would really like to have the bank knob on or near the guitar rather than on the floor. Since you have the schematics....is that knob a selector switch or a pot with detent positions? If it is a pot, I think the hacking might be a lot easier. Did you get the schematics from Roland? I've also thought about adding a pedal that would push the two outside pedals on the RC-20's (the left one's play/record and the right one's stop) at the same time to facilitate the tunes where I have one background for the tune;s head and another for the solos. Since I added the drum samples, this is less easy to do at all, so I probably will skip that one. Mark Smart From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 04:00:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA17735; Sat, 4 May 2002 03:58:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 03:58:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 03:56:26 -0400 From: skincage Subject: routing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <009401c1f341$317ec560$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks to everyone who gave me advice. i was able to do a VERY VERY loop heavy show tonight using headrush, vortex, and repeater (until it TOTALLY FREAKED OUT ON ME in mid performance, this makes twice now). when repeater went wonky, i still had the headrush and vortex to rely on, as well as my homemade low-fi looper (circuit-bent from one of those recording picture frames) and a cute yamaha sampling keyboard. i'm very happy with how things went, if only repeater hadn't flaked! maybe it got dropped harder than i thought, heh. anyone with a 128 meg sandisk card having trouble with it giving you some kind of time limit problem? it's like it somehow ran out of memory from 2 stereo loops that were maybe 30 seconds each. that can't be, right? any advice appreciated, as usual! thanks folks. i love being back on this list. Jon/skincage From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 04:52:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA20458; Sat, 4 May 2002 04:50:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 04:50:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 01:50:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Ready to dump Repeater From: Marklar To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <006401c1f31d$92391460$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3103321826_1277379_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3103321826_1277379_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In that case I recommend the Digicram X2400 midi synchable pie plate spinner. The new software allows you to spin pie plates in multiple time signatures, and is more stable than the first release. It makes for a really big show. Really big. Mark Sottilaro on 5/3/02 7:41 PM, Butch at paulrichard10@attbi.com wrote: Hi, Mark: Yes, that does indeed work (MIDI for Loop Up & Down) and Digitech for Play. I'm thinking of spinning a pie plate on a stick in my mouth while I play guitar and 'tap dance' as well. Hehehe...Too bad Ed Sullivan isn't still alive. --MS_Mac_OE_3103321826_1277379_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ready to dump Repeater In that case I recommend the Digicram X2400 midi synchable pie plate spinne= r.  The new software allows you to spin pie plates in multiple time sig= natures, and is more stable than the first release.  It makes for a rea= lly big show.  Really big.

Mark Sottilaro

on 5/3/02 7:41 PM, Butch at paulrichard10@attbi.com wrote:

Hi, Mark:
Yes, that does indeed work (MIDI for Loop= Up & Down) and Digitech for Play. I'm thinking of spinning a pie plate = on a stick in my mouth while I play guitar and 'tap dance'  as well. He= hehe...Too bad Ed Sullivan isn't still alive.
--MS_Mac_OE_3103321826_1277379_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 05:20:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA22887; Sat, 4 May 2002 05:19:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 05:19:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 02:18:48 -0800 Subject: Re: repeater pc import/export software - need comments From: Marklar To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020503172744.4334.h001.c007.wm@mail.directvinternet.com.criticalpath.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> i'm curious what the interest in a public release of > such a tool would be. >> anyone interested? if so, i can clean it up and make > it available. >> I'd be interested... in a Mac version, if possible. It would also be nice if you could go both ways with the file. Taking files off, and putting new files on that the Repeater could then recognize. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 05:48:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA23701; Sat, 4 May 2002 05:45:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 05:45:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020504094526.35388.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 02:45:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Ready to dump Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I recommend the Sénor Wences Hand-Controller. John --- Marklar wrote: > In that case I recommend the Digicram X2400 midi > synchable pie plate > spinner. The new software allows you to spin pie > plates in multiple time > signatures, and is more stable than the first > release. It makes for a > really big show. Really big. > > Mark Sottilaro ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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>Hello to all Living Rumor subscribers !
>
>NEWS: The Swans c.d. "Feel Good Now" reissue is on the horizon and running
>towards us.
>Pre-orders are being taken right 'NOW' from :
>http://www.swans.pair.com
>http://www.thelivingjarboe.com
>
>Recently added : unusual Snake jewelry worn during the Children Of God and
>Blood Women Roses era I collected mostly in Europe is also being offered on
>www.thelivingjarboe.com
>
>Coming : my new fetish boxes, art, master reels to display on your wall,
>and spooky oddities.
>Contact info@thelivingjarboe.com  for more.
>
>Also ,  finally  a new photograph of ME on my home page.
>Thanks for the numerous email requests !
>
>The ' MEN ' album updates : I have received a terrific track from David
>Torn (among numerous noteworthy achievements,  DT is David Bowie's
>guitarist) and  Maynard Keenan (Tool, A Perfect Circle) will be working on
>a track for ' MEN ' in June.
>
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>
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 --part1_15e.d37bdd3.2a055d7b_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 13:04:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14121; Sat, 4 May 2002 13:03:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:03:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00f301c1f38d$2aa52990$2b35230a@melon> Reply-To: "Michael LaMeyer" From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: <006401c1f31d$92391460$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> Subject: Re: Ready to dump Repeater Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:00:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com have you tried assigning two CC/PC messages to one pedal, one to Up Loop and one to Record/Play? mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Butch" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:41 PM Subject: Re: Ready to dump Repeater Re: Ready to dump RepeaterHi, Mark: Yes, that does indeed work (MIDI for Loop Up & Down) and Digitech for Play. I'm thinking of spinning a pie plate on a stick in my mouth while I play guitar and 'tap dance' as well. Hehehe...Too bad Ed Sullivan isn't still alive. 'gards, Butch ----- Original Message ----- From: Marklar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: Re: Ready to dump Repeater I've had success using a Behringer FCP1010 to send loop up and down info, and then use the Digitech FS300 to cue up a play or record function. Seems to work fine, although a little clumsey. I've not tried to make the Behringer do it all yet. Mark on 5/3/02 6:36 PM, Butch at paulrichard10@attbi.com wrote: Man, I tell ya. The Repeater is a nice unit. Except it's foot pedal controls (both with a three-button Digitech and a MIDI controller) leave a lot to be desired. The EDP leaves it in the dust in that department. I haven't been able to change loops without using my hands since I got the thing. I'm on my second MIDI pedal. I thought my original somewhat archaic Digitech PDS-type was not the best device to use and since sold it. I purchased a Fender Cyber-Twin MIDI Foot Pedal with the intention of using it for the CT as well as the Repeater. It's a real simple pedal to use. Sends PC and can send CC. Most of the MIDI functions I tried worked BUT when a new loop is selected (after being created), ex. LOOP UP, I can't get the darn thing to PLAY. I opened a case with Electrix and they're helpful but it seems weird that a simple function can't be made to work. I'm running 1.1, BTW. This problem is really starting to get on my nerves. As a guitar player, stopping to manually initiate Loop Up or Loop Down ain't gonna cut it. Electrix should have, in the first place, took a lesson from Gibson and used more than a 3 switch pedal. You got to be able to Loop Up or Down. Oh well, must have been the bad Martinis I drank earlier. Regards, Butch From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 14:00:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17874; Sat, 4 May 2002 13:59:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:59:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAgswLoXCbedpjSsf6NTl5u84YDPsCFBNKe/1loLbPeKmQ4Yiw/womVz48 From: BILLYBUDDHA@webtv.net (William Mcallister) Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 10:59:08 -0700 (PDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: zappa! Baby Snakes video Message-ID: <29492-3CD4216C-6032@storefull-2351.public.lawson.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Evan Meyers 's message of Fri, 3 May 2002 10:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks Evan, ya know I did'nt even see it mentioned on the Zappa website. Maybe I'll have to find a used one. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 16:40:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA27361; Sat, 4 May 2002 16:39:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 16:39:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 22:45:16 +0200 Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend From: charmah tiego To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You could get a micromodular and make one yourself out of the modules ( it may not be possible to have a sixty second phase period one, but you can have lfos of about fourty secs ) It has a 10 or 12 peaks phaser module ready to go anyway, with all the mod inputs you'd normally want to find. I use mine a lot as an FX unit, and as it is the size of a stomp box, it is in my bakpack. OK , it is not analog, but you can really approach the feel of one if you work on it. You find huge amount of example patches on the net And if you are looking for extreme and personal,entirely programmable FX for less than 600 dollars, well... peace. tiego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 17:30:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30779; Sat, 4 May 2002 17:28:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 17:28:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c1f3b2$c90ec080$1602a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: References: Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 17:29:34 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Actually, the Nord Modular phaser module is a pretty good sounding "unit". Plus you get a modular synth! Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com > You could get a micromodular and make one yourself out of the modules ( it > may not be possible to have a sixty second phase period one, but you can > have lfos of about fourty secs ) > It has a 10 or 12 peaks phaser module ready to go anyway, with all the mod > inputs you'd normally want to find. > I use mine a lot as an FX unit, and as it is the size of a stomp box, it > is in my bakpack. > OK , it is not analog, but you can really approach the feel of one if you > work on it. You find huge amount of example patches on the net > And if you are looking for extreme and personal,entirely programmable FX for > less than 600 dollars, well... > > peace. > tiego > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 20:22:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08284; Sat, 4 May 2002 20:21:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:21:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: OT: Phaser recommend Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 17:08:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Adrenalinn has a pretty nice phaser on it, with lots of modulation sources, incl the 32 step sequencer. _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ > -----Original Message----- > From: charmah tiego [mailto:tiegolego@noos.fr] > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 1:45 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend > > > > > You could get a micromodular and make one yourself out of the modules ( it > may not be possible to have a sixty second phase period one, but you can > have lfos of about fourty secs ) > It has a 10 or 12 peaks phaser module ready to go anyway, with all the mod > inputs you'd normally want to find. > I use mine a lot as an FX unit, and as it is the size of a stomp box, it > is in my bakpack. > OK , it is not analog, but you can really approach the feel of one if you > work on it. You find huge amount of example patches on the net > And if you are looking for extreme and personal,entirely > programmable FX for > less than 600 dollars, well... > > peace. > tiego > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 22:47:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15772; Sat, 4 May 2002 22:45:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:45:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Paul Weissman" To: Subject: RE: repeater pc import/export software - need comments Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:46:31 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <009301c1f2e8$22d98620$0801a8c0@vz.dsl.genuity.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks for the responses everyone. since it seems like there's some decent interest, i'll try to give you a better picture of what exactly i'm working on. as of today both extracting .wav data from a Track file to another .wav file (with no leading or trailing dead space) and creating Repeater compatible Track files from arbitrary .wav files are working. these two functions are already starting to be big time savers for me. within a few more iterations of the program, it should be easy to a) point the program at the root directory of a Repeater file hierarchy and have it extract all the .wav files from the entire hierarchy to another directory and b) point the program at a directory containing your own .wav file loops and have the program create a set of directories that mimic a Repeater file hierarchy with Track files that contain your loops. does that make sense? in it's first incarnation, this utility is simply going to be a command line utility for Windows. (and Unix for all the freaks who love managing their loops on unix) i don't have a mac, but i can look into what it will take to make that happen. also, in order to get clean loops, for the time being you're going to have to 'trim' your loops in repeater before exporting. of course, if you want all the data that's in there, you don't have to do this. the only bad news is that i've got a trip coming up and i've got to spend 4 days in the studio working on some tracks so my time will be limited. it'll be a couple weeks before i can polish a releasable version off. in the meantime... does anyone have any server space where i can put the files? i might have some, but some other options would be nifty. more responses and ideas are definitely welcome! to answer some questions: > Wow- how cool! You might consider posting to the Electrix Forum > with this- I > am sure plenty of people would be interested- heck- if the code is good > enough I bet you could get Electrix to support it as an Electrix > app- maybe. i'll just be psyched if i can get electrix to release some basic info about their file formats to me (and the community in general)... if i had more info, even cooler things could happen. > I would love to be able to audition loops on my pc as they would on the > Repeater- and not just going into the folder and playing 1 of the > 4 tracks. > Maybe even just a select-and-hear type operation- click once on a > folder and > hear the loops- unfortunately unless Electrix releases the exact algorithms that they use to do pitch shifting and loop playback, no one can write software to do this. what this utility will do is just extract the raw wave data from the files and put them in new files. however, you can resample your loops in your repeater and then export the wav files for further manipulation. > Super Cool! You might want to mention this on the repeater-users yahoo > group too. I'm interested in your package and it seems like an obvious didn't know about it, signing up... thanks! > thing to do! If I have a single 4 second wave file that is 8 beats long, > can I use your tool to create a repeater loop out of it? If so > you've got a > winner of a program. I bet Electrix would possibly even be interested... yup, that's the idea! > Definitely interested. I considered doing something like this > myself, but Electrix told me that they were going to release one > eventually. That was a long, long time ago... maybe this'll help give 'em a kick in the butt... :) > It would be awesome to have the files convertable to .acd files (the files > for ACID, the Sonic Foundry looping program) and > maybe a conversion to .AIFF files for the mackies out there. at some point i could look into this, but there are already good programs that do batch file conversion. however, with this utility it'll be a simple 2 step process to get them into whatever format you need them in. oh... one thing that's a pain for me is splitting stereo files, so i'll probably include that as part of the utility to. so if you have a stereo drum track, this util will split it up and then convert both L and R into a separate Track files for the Repeater. paul > -----Original Message----- > From: Clifford Novey [mailto:om@om-studios.com] > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:19 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: repeater pc import/export software - need comments > > > Wow- how cool! You might consider posting to the Electrix Forum > with this- I > am sure plenty of people would be interested- heck- if the code is good > enough I bet you could get Electrix to support it as an Electrix > app- maybe. > > I would love to be able to audition loops on my pc as they would on the > Repeater- and not just going into the folder and playing 1 of the > 4 tracks. > Maybe even just a select-and-hear type operation- click once on a > folder and > hear the loops- > > Cliff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Weissman" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:13 PM > Subject: repeater pc import/export software - need comments > > > > > > i just finished an early version of a utility that allows users > to extract > > wave data from repeater Track files and create repeater > compatible Tracks > > from your own loops. this will (hopefully) alleviate the need > for all the > > manual loop creation and editing that you have to do to get > your material > in > > and out of the repeater. > > > > i'm curious what the interest in a public release of such a > tool would be. > > anyone interested? if so, i can clean it up and make it available. > > > > any other things that you'd like a utility like this to do? > > > > paul > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 23:19:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA18101; Sat, 4 May 2002 23:18:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 23:18:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: repeater pc import/export software - need comments Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:17:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This would make owning a Repeater much more desireable! I thought the tone of the 'peater was great, but it is less flexible than the EDP-- This feature would make a lot of sense for those using loopers as sample playback units. Any idea what you will want to charge for this PC software? Gary PS I took back the Repeater and bought a second EDP but would buy another 'peater with this functionality--does that mean I have GAS? G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 23:40:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19112; Sat, 4 May 2002 23:39:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 23:39:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:38:36 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <95317B70-5FD9-11D6-BB8D-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'll second that. Mark On Saturday, May 4, 2002, at 05:08 PM, Neil Goldstein wrote: > The Adrenalinn has a pretty nice phaser on it, with lots of modulation > sources, incl the 32 step sequencer. > > > > _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ > _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ > _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ > _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: charmah tiego [mailto:tiegolego@noos.fr] >> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 1:45 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend >> >> >> >> >> You could get a micromodular and make one yourself out of the modules >> ( it >> may not be possible to have a sixty second phase period one, but you >> can >> have lfos of about fourty secs ) >> It has a 10 or 12 peaks phaser module ready to go anyway, with all the >> mod >> inputs you'd normally want to find. >> I use mine a lot as an FX unit, and as it is the size of a stomp >> box, it >> is in my bakpack. >> OK , it is not analog, but you can really approach the feel of one if >> you >> work on it. You find huge amount of example patches on the net >> And if you are looking for extreme and personal,entirely >> programmable FX for >> less than 600 dollars, well... >> >> peace. >> tiego >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 4 23:44:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19507; Sat, 4 May 2002 23:43:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 23:43:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:42:59 -0700 Subject: Re: repeater pc import/export software - need comments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <31658097-5FDA-11D6-BB8D-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I think the UNIX should be fine for my Mac needs, as OSX is pretty much UNIX. Would be interesting to try and see. Mark On Saturday, May 4, 2002, at 07:46 PM, Paul Weissman wrote: > > utility for Windows. (and Unix for all the freaks who love managing > their > loops on unix) i don't have a mac, but i can look into what it will > take to > make that happen. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 03:46:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA32271; Sun, 5 May 2002 03:45:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 03:45:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 03:44:04 EDT Subject: Loop IV features vol 2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com All about Nextloop When you only have one loop (Moreloops=1) NextLoop now acts as a Retrigger: it starts the loop from the beginning on each press. For instant stutter repeats you can hit Record, then you can move your foot across to "NextLoop". The first press ends the record, and starts the first playback. Then each press of NextLoop restarts the loop. (all this not to be confused with the new Stutter Mode, which is a different thing entirely) with multiple loops:- in loop3 using NextLoop to end a Recording just ends the record, as if you finished the recording with another press of the record button. in Loop4 you can go straight to the next loop, and start recording (AutoRecord=On) This allows you to record all the sections of a piece of music at the beginning of the piece. (or a series of notes to use as samples) The SwitchQuant parameter has new values which work in a Quantised way, these allow you to select the loop in advance and confirm when you want to go to it, (just like SwitchQuant=Cnf) but the EDP still waits for the end of the loop(or Cycle) before it changes over to the new loop. This solves the problem of the "lame duck period" (as it is called in the Loop3 manual) With Loop 3 if you want the changover to happen exactly at the end of the loop you need to use Nextloop to select the loop, then if you want to use any extra functions (like Multiply for instance) you have to hit that as well. If the loop is short you don't have time to select the loop you want to go to and also the function you want to use. Loop4 solves all this, you get all the time you need and still change exactly at the end of the loop. And when SwitchQuant isn't set to "OFF", a Long press of NextLoop selects loop number 1. ..........and all that just for one button andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 04:11:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA01957; Sun, 5 May 2002 04:10:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 04:10:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003d01c1f40b$f4fca460$2a06893e@fastun> From: "Gareth Whittock" To: References: <31658097-5FDA-11D6-BB8D-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Handsonic Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 09:07:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi guys, I'm thinking of getting a handsonic particularly for live use - any comments? Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 07:35:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14494; Sun, 5 May 2002 07:33:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 07:33:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: RE: Handsonic Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 13:35:05 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c1f428$ec45c870$0601a8c0@SATAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003d01c1f40b$f4fca460$2a06893e@fastun> Resent-Message-ID: <-BES3.A.WiD.4hR18@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gareth, on the John Surman/Jack DeJohnette release "Invisible Nature", Jack DeJohnette makes ample use of the handsonic, according to liner notes. This is a live album, so perhaps you can find out whether it sound like you want to sound it (or whether it sound like that in Mr. DeJohnette hands rather). Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > -----Original Message----- > From: Gareth Whittock [mailto:gareth@whiteoakstudios.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: Sonntag, 5. Mai 2002 10:08 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Handsonic > > > Hi guys, > I'm thinking of getting a handsonic particularly for live use - any > comments? > > Gareth > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 07:49:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14986; Sun, 5 May 2002 07:48:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 07:48:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.b016044.2a0675b6@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 07:47:02 EDT Subject: zvex looper? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com howdy fellow looping brothers and sisters, just read about this. anyone try one yet? seems both pricey and intriguing. (don't you hate that combination? why can't it be inexpensive and intriguing?) if anyone has any 1st hand experience w/ this device let me know what you think. have a wonderful sunday. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 10:26:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24779; Sun, 5 May 2002 10:25:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 10:25:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003d01c1f40b$f4fca460$2a06893e@fastun> References: <31658097-5FDA-11D6-BB8D-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 10:27:50 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: just john Subject: Re: Handsonic Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Hi guys, >I'm thinking of getting a handsonic particularly for live use - any >comments? > >Gareth I have one and enjoy it a lot. Never played it live, tho. --- * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 11:09:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27618; Sun, 5 May 2002 11:09:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:09:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 11:03:38 -0400 From: Bill Cummings Subject: Re: Handsonic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <0fc401c1f446$09f936a0$fe17bd18@electric71xq89> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <31658097-5FDA-11D6-BB8D-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It's a great unit. Sounds are tremendous, and interface is pretty darn good. I use it sometimes as a standalone drum kit, playing it with timbale sticks. Also use it as a supplemental pad/sound source on BALDR setup. Benefits greatly from a full range sound system with subwoofers. Watch out for the Z-beam (or whatever they call it) mine's always triggering when I don't want it to, so I usually try to remember to turn it off. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 11:26:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28411; Sun, 5 May 2002 11:25:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:25:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RandomLFO@aol.com Message-ID: <32.2671aaa0.2a06a897@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:24:07 EDT Subject: Re: Handsonic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello. I use the HandSonic Live almost everyday. I play for dance classes at VCU the Richmond Ballet, and other places as well. I also use it for live improvs and with a band that I am currently forming. (Both the guitarists in the group have an EDP. One also has a Repeater and a Jamman - The HPD is an excellent instrument to use for live looping.) One of it's strong points is having 15 pads in a playing surface the size of a conga head. It's very intuitve to say the least. It has some nice realtime control features as well (2 ribbon controllers, a D-beam, and 4 knobs). I've also been using it a lot in my little studio. It appears quite a bit in the two current commission pieces that I am working on for faculty choreographers. The internal sound set is a mixed bag. Some of the sounds are really nice, but some sounds seem like wasted space (IMHO). It's not Nirvana, but for having everything in one compact, intuitive unit (A fairly flexible sound set, plenty of realtime control, etc.) it's great. (Do note that not everything is implemented the way I wished it was, and that I intially rejected the Handsonic as a work in progress) My advice is to closely scrutinize at a local music store, or buy it from a store that wil allow you return it. If you would like more detailed info, feel free to email me directly. Take care, Marc In a message dated 05/05/2002 1:11:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gareth@whiteoakstudios.freeserve.co.uk writes: > Hi guys, > I'm thinking of getting a handsonic particularly for live use - any > comments? > > Gareth > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 11:54:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29671; Sun, 5 May 2002 11:53:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:53:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: Loop IV features revealed Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 08:53:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Andy-- Thanks for sharing-- Lotsa hard work paying off for all concerned-- I look forward to the opportunity to implement some of these new features. Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 11:56:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30016; Sun, 5 May 2002 11:55:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:55:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c1f44c$dc0ebdd0$cb68fea9@melon> Reply-To: "Michael LaMeyer" From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: , "Evan Meyers" , References: <20020505004533.85555.qmail@web20003.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: midi & repeater (was Re: Ready to dump Repeater) - sorry for the cross post Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:52:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Resent-Message-ID: <3VNnp.A.sUH.qXV18@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you can EITHER send a PC or a CC for most functions. for the switchlike functions (on/off), they should work exactly the same, for some of the other functions, the PC may function as a switch while the CC w/a value sets something specific. BIG CAVEAT: i've found that the CC messages work as documented but the PC messages don't. this is not necessarily Behringer's fault, it's due to the PC implementation (there are two types, one with PC messages starting at '1' and another with PC messages starting at '0'; apparently the 1010 and the repeater follow different implementations). you have to increment the documented repeater PC messages by +1 in almost all cases when you program the 1010(except for the actual typo's, such as the Record PC message, which appears for me to work as documented). if the CC messages don't work either, check your MIDI configuration, as they should work. make sure that the global MIDI channels you specifiy for the 1010 pedals matches the MIDI channel selected by the rotary in the back of the repeater. you should see the MIDI light on the repeater light up when you send messages. fwiw, once i figured out the PC offset problem and discovered the typo's by trial and error, it was smooth sailing for me. i'm to the point now where i'm getting pretty comfortable with basic functions, and now i'm going to try some combo messages (such as up loop + record) and see how that flys. i'll also get around to documenting which messages work for me and describing the typo's, at some point. good luck, mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Meyers" To: "Michael LaMeyer" Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: midi & repeater (was Re: Ready to dump Repeater) > > --- Michael LaMeyer wrote: > > have you tried assigning two CC/PC messages to one > > pedal, one to > > Up Loop and one to Record/Play? > > > > the replies to the recent threads about the repeater > receiving pcs and ccs via midi have gotten me a bit > confused and i was wondering if anyone can clear this > up for me... > > now, the repeater manual gives a chart listing pc's > and cc's to make various face-plate functions happen. > i've been trying to use these numbers with a behringer > fcb1010 unsuceccessfully. the numbers in the manual > are off or the behringer unit has some sort of > different numbering system...but either way what is > listed is acting funny when programmed and sent to the > repeater. > > do i need to send a pc, cc, and a value to make > something happen or just a pc or just a cc and a > value? the replies i've read make it seem like you > can use a cc or a pc...i thought you needed to use > both as a combination to make things work? can > someone who uses the repeater and behringer send me > what they programmed for a few functions to use a > guideline to get this pedal to work with my repeater? > maybe send what is programmed for 2 or 3 basic > functions and 2 or 3 odd functions...i'm just a bit > confused and can't really find the correct > implementation chart, and i was under the impression > that several folks were using the two pieces of gear > together without problems. any and all help is mucho > appreciated! > > thanks! > e va n\s sa b > evanmeyers@yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 13:01:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02327; Sun, 5 May 2002 13:01:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 13:01:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 10:00:40 -0700 Message-ID: <3CBB5DA90001419E@mta08.san.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3f.b016044.2a0675b6@aol.com> From: "Chris Roberts" Subject: RE: zvex looper? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA02274 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PJ, I've not tried the zvex looper, but, I know zach (of zachary vex effects) and own two other zvex fx (fuzz factory and seek wah), and can vouche(sp?) for the 'interesting sounds' that his stuff produces... :) They are pricey because he doesn't sell millions of units (each one is hand made)... But, I love my zvex fx! -cpr >-- Original Message -- >From: PJBMHB@aol.com >Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 07:47:02 EDT >Subject: zvex looper? >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >howdy fellow looping brothers and sisters, > just read about this. anyone try one yet? seems both pricey and > >intriguing. (don't you hate that combination? why can't it be inexpensive >and >intriguing?) if anyone has any 1st hand experience w/ this device let me >know >what you think. have a wonderful sunday. > > =-) PJ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 13:07:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03019; Sun, 5 May 2002 13:06:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 13:06:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 09:57:07 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: midi & repeater (was Re: Ready to dump Repeater) - sorry for the cross post In-reply-to: <001401c1f44c$dc0ebdd0$cb68fea9@melon> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <20020505004533.85555.qmail@web20003.mail.yahoo.com> <001401c1f44c$dc0ebdd0$cb68fea9@melon> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:52 AM -0400 5/5/02, Michael LaMeyer wrote: >it's due to the PC implementation (there are two types, >one with PC messages starting at '1' and another with PC >messages starting at '0' Strictly speaking, there is only one type of Program Change implementation, ranging from 0 to 127. However, different manufacturers implement the user interface differently, representing the 0-127 message values as 1-128. There are also some devices (typical of older Roland keyboards) where the programs are organized in banks of eight, so that it appears to the user that the program change messages run from 11 to 88 when what is actually being sent is 0-63. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 13:39:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04451; Sun, 5 May 2002 13:38:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 13:38:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 10:37:40 -0700 Subject: Re: Handsonic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <000001c1f428$ec45c870$0601a8c0@SATAN> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Adrian Belew is a big Handsonic user. I've seen him perform with it with King Crimson, and although it was hard to pick out what was coming out if him, as opposed to the rest of the band, it sure seemed like he was doing stuff. Also, our very own Ted performed with a gentleman at loopstock in SLO. He's only instrument was a Handsonic and it was pretty amazing stuff. Made me want to go out and get one, and I'm a guitarist. Mark On Sunday, May 5, 2002, at 04:35 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Gareth, > > on the John Surman/Jack DeJohnette release "Invisible Nature", Jack > DeJohnette makes ample use of the handsonic, according to liner notes. > This > is a live album, so perhaps you can find out whether it sound like you > want > to sound it (or whether it sound like that in Mr. DeJohnette hands > rather). > > Rainer > > Rainer Straschill > Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de > digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de > The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gareth Whittock [mailto:gareth@whiteoakstudios.freeserve.co.uk] >> Sent: Sonntag, 5. Mai 2002 10:08 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Handsonic >> >> >> Hi guys, >> I'm thinking of getting a handsonic particularly for live use - any >> comments? >> >> Gareth >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 14:22:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07557; Sun, 5 May 2002 14:21:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:21:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <78.263014cd.2a06d1c3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:19:47 EDT Subject: Re: Handsonic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Hi guys, > I'm thinking of getting a handsonic particularly for live use - any > comments? > > Gareth Hi Gareth, can't you try one of these at that big music shop in Cardiff? (Crane's isn't it). I had a go on one, my feeling was that it was a very nice interface to play. ..and the djembe was excellent. but a most of the sounds were a bit lame, and wouldn't make the music for their relevant country. (Roland think a gamelan orchestra has a vibraphone in it). Watch out for the prerecorded loops, as these have sounds that you can't play individually. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 14:27:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08013; Sun, 5 May 2002 14:26:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:26:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JIMFOWLER@prodigy.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 14:26:07 -0500 Subject: RE: Loop IV features revealed Resent-Message-ID: <_KHoXC.A.i8B.AlX18@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com we still have no "official" release (for those of us who couldn't make it to the demonstration), do we? just making sure i haven't missed something. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 15:44:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12255; Sun, 5 May 2002 15:43:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 15:43:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: ArsOcarina@aol.com Message-ID: <116.10c5996e.2a06e524@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 15:42:28 EDT Subject: Re: Handsonic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: <163iqC.A.R_C.GtY18@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com All, In a message dated 5/5/02 10:37:56 AM, sine@zerocrossing.net writes: >Also, our very own Ted performed with a gentleman at Loopstock in SLO. >His only instrument was a Handsonic and it was pretty amazing stuff. >Made me want to go out and get one, and I'm a guitarist. That was Dr. Bob Sterling. He's an amazing drummer . . . and yes he is a medical doctor (an ER surgeon in an L.A. hospital). He is also a Repeater user. Before the gig I sent him some wave files to load into the Electrix to jam along with so he'd know a little about some of my ideas before we played together for the first time in over a year. If it worked at all on any level I'd say it was more due to his talents than to mine. Cheers, TK From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 16:52:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16270; Sun, 5 May 2002 16:51:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 16:51:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 15:54:57 -0500 Subject: Handsonic From: Tom Roady To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3103458897_1702398_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3103458897_1702398_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I agree with Marc and Bill that the handsonic is really a very creative tool and a very playable percussion instrument...I use it every day in the studio and on the weekends play drumset with it live on gigs... as primarily a hand percussionist in studios I really love the choices of all the world instruments available and how great they sound...not to mention using the internal effects to create totally new sounds.... I've used it on everything from CNN bumpers to country recordings. 2 MAJOR improvements would make my world a lot easier...pretty simple ones actually....another pair of assignable stereo outputs so I could send what I actually play into my EDP without sending the loop itself into it...I control the timing from the handsonic to the EDP.....and being able to copy individual sounds from one kit to another would be a great improvement I feel...I've talked about this with Steve Fischer and Mike Snyder from Roland and they really can't say what is in store for the next version...bottom line...I really recommend it to any percussionist / looper tr From: Bill Cummings Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 11:03:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Handsonic It's a great unit. Sounds are tremendous, and interface is pretty darn good. I use it sometimes as a standalone drum kit, playing it with timbale sticks. Also use it as a supplemental pad/sound source on BALDR setup. Benefits greatly from a full range sound system with subwoofers. Watch out for the Z-beam (or whatever they call it) mine's always triggering when I don't want it to, so I usually try to remember to turn it off. From: RandomLFO@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:24:07 EDT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Handsonic Hello. I use the HandSonic Live almost everyday. I play for dance classes at VCU the Richmond Ballet, and other places as well. I also use it for live improvs and with a band that I am currently forming. (Both the guitarists in the group have an EDP. One also has a Repeater and a Jamman - The HPD is an excellent instrument to use for live looping.) One of it's strong points is having 15 pads in a playing surface the size of a conga head. It's very intuitve to say the least. It has some nice realtime control features as well (2 ribbon controllers, a D-beam, and 4 knobs). I've also been using it a lot in my little studio. It appears quite a bit in the two current commission pieces that I am working on for faculty choreographers. The internal sound set is a mixed bag. Some of the sounds are really nice, but some sounds seem like wasted space (IMHO). It's not Nirvana, but for having everything in one compact, intuitive unit (A fairly flexible sound set, plenty of realtime control, etc.) it's great. (Do note that not everything is implemented the way I wished it was, and that I intially rejected the Handsonic as a work in progress) My advice is to closely scrutinize at a local music store, or buy it from a store that wil allow you return it. If you would like more detailed info, feel free to email me directly. Take care, Marc --MS_Mac_OE_3103458897_1702398_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Handsonic I agree with Marc and Bill that the handsonic is really a very creative= tool and a very playable percussion instrument...I use it every day in the = studio and on the weekends play drumset with it live on gigs... as primarily= a hand percussionist in studios I really love the choices of all the world = instruments available and how great they sound...not to mention using the in= ternal effects to create totally new sounds.... I've used it on everything f= rom CNN bumpers to country recordings.

2 MAJOR improvements would make my world a lot easier...pretty simple ones = actually....another pair of assignable stereo outputs so I could send what I= actually play into my EDP without sending the loop itself into it...I contr= ol the timing from the handsonic to the EDP.....and being able to copy indiv= idual sounds from one kit to another would be a great improvement I feel...I= 've talked about this with Steve Fischer and Mike Snyder from Roland and the= y really can't say what is in store for the next version...bottom line...I r= eally recommend it to any percussionist / looper  tr


From: Bill Cummings <billcumm@spryn= et.com>
Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 11:03:38 -0400
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Handsonic

It's a great unit. Sounds are tremendous, and interface is pretty darn = good.
I use it sometimes as a standalone drum kit, playing it with timbale sticks= .
Also use it as a supplemental pad/sound source on BALDR setup. Benefits
greatly from a full range sound system with subwoofers. Watch out for the Z-beam (or whatever they call it) mine's always triggering when I don't wan= t
it to, so I usually try to remember to turn it off.

From: RandomLFO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:24:07 EDT
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Handsonic

    Hello. I use the HandSonic Live almost everyda= y. I play for dance
classes at VCU the Richmond Ballet, and other places as well. I also use it=
for live improvs and with a band that I am currently forming. (Both the guitarists in the group have an EDP. One also has a Repeater and a Jamman -=
The HPD is an excellent instrument to use for live looping.) One of it's strong points is having 15 pads in a playing surface the size of a conga head. It's very intuitve to say the least. It has some nice realtime contro= l
features as well (2 ribbon controllers, a D-beam, and 4 knobs).
    I've also been using it a lot in my little studio.= It appears quite a
bit in the two current commission pieces that I am working on for faculty <= BR> choreographers.
    The internal sound set is a mixed bag. Some of the= sounds are really
nice, but some sounds seem like wasted space (IMHO). It's not Nirvana, but =
for having everything in one compact, intuitive unit (A fairly flexible sou= nd
set, plenty of realtime control, etc.) it's great. (Do note that not
everything is implemented the way I wished it was, and that I intially
rejected the Handsonic as a work in progress)
    My advice is to closely scrutinize at a local musi= c store, or buy it
from a store that wil allow you return it. If you would like more detailed =
info, feel free to email me directly.
    Take care, Marc


--MS_Mac_OE_3103458897_1702398_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 18:03:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21943; Sun, 5 May 2002 18:02:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 18:02:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Looping9string@aol.com Message-ID: <199.6812a96.2a0705a6@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 18:01:10 EDT Subject: silly little CONTEST To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_199.6812a96.2a0705a6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10500 Resent-Message-ID: <-IJR1.A.KWF.Pva18@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_199.6812a96.2a0705a6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you go to www.mp3.com/freakwincing... You can hear a SECRET cover tune... Please; DO NOT PLACE THIS ON ANY MP3 STATIONS, it is there for a select group of people and I will remove it if and when I get any kind of legal attention... I put t up as a treat, not to get rich, so you can enjoy it or don't! The recording came about by chance during a looping solo improv in my garage, I feel its kind of novelty enough to show to you all, but not "good" enough to be worth the dollars I would have to pay to release a cover tune! Especially this cover tune... And how about this, the first person to write to me and identify the cover tune WINS a brand new MORLEY little alligator XL T-shirt. So download and/or listen until you find it, and then send me an e-mail! Thanks, 9: the artist formerly know as: Gregory Bruce Campbell http://www.mp3.com/freakwincing --part1_199.6812a96.2a0705a6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you go to www.mp3.com/freakwincing... You can hear a SECRET cover tune... Please; DO NOT PLACE THIS ON ANY MP3 STATIONS, it is there for a select group of people and I will remove it if and when I get any kind of legal attention... I put t up as a treat, not to get rich, so you can enjoy it or don't!

The recording came about by chance during a looping solo improv in my garage, I feel its kind of novelty enough to show to you all, but not "good" enough to be worth the dollars I would have to pay to release a cover tune! Especially this cover tune...

And how about this, the first person to write to me and identify the cover tune WINS a brand new MORLEY little alligator XL T-shirt.

So download and/or listen until you find it, and then send me an e-mail!

Thanks,
9:
the artist formerly know as:
Gregory Bruce Campbell
http://www.mp3.com/freakwincing --part1_199.6812a96.2a0705a6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 20:35:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA30436; Sun, 5 May 2002 20:34:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 20:34:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 17:35:29 -0700 Subject: Re: Handsonic From: Mark Hamburg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Handsonic is very high on instant gratification. I've had a number of non-percussionists sit down at mine and have a lot of fun. (I'm a non-percussionist as well.) On the other hand, I have a couple of gripes that seem reflective of much of my experience with Roland gear in that the operating system always seems to keep it from living up to its promise. Here are the chief issues that come to mind: * The effects are much like the effects from the SP-808 (and other Roland units) but the provisions for realtime control of the effects are much more limited. In particular, the unit has 3 knobs purportedly for realtime sound tweaking but all they really seem to do most of the time is provide a slightly faster way to edit kits. I really wish I could do things like assign the knobs to the feedback level on the delay effects, for example. * The sequencer on board is very weak for loop building and actually isn't even much of a sequencer. It doesn't let you erase notes. It doesn't let you switch parts while recording. The Handsonic with some good MIDI looping software in its OS would be really cool. Even just matching some of what can be done on things like the MC-505 would be a start. As it is, I end up just doing my looping in audio which seems somewhat of a waste since MIDI data ought to be more flexible. As for the sounds, I don't know whether I prefer it or my Emu Planet Earth. The latter probably has better sounds but they are harder to get to. Summary: Fun percussion controller with decent sound sets that falls short of what it could be by not having an OS that allows much realtime effects manipulation nor easy loop creation/manipulation. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 5 20:45:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31156; Sun, 5 May 2002 20:44:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 20:44:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <012101c1f497$4b5fe7a0$63e45cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: References: <199.6812a96.2a0705a6@aol.com> Subject: Re: silly little CONTEST Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 20:45:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: > If you go to www.mp3.com/freakwincing... You can hear a SECRET cover tune... It's so secret, of the 26 songs on your site, you didn't say which one is the cover tune. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to figure out to which one I should be listening. Help, please. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 02:48:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA18543; Mon, 6 May 2002 02:46:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 02:46:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 23:44:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Handsonic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmm, sounds to me like they mainly expected it to be a performance instrument, and the sequencer was a second thought. I've seen people do cool stuff where they seemed to be controlling effects via the d-beam, no? I too have a love/hate relationship with Roland. They seem to favor a billion presets rather than tweakability. In a way I'm OK with that, as a lot are great. I used to spend hours and hours making sounds on an old analog Korg D8000, but I feel I no longer have the time to put into sound design, as much as I love it. There came a time when I just had to put more energy into playing. The short of it is I still wish I had the time to do both! I recently picked up a VX-5050, because the sounds on the GR-30 SUCK. I was plain and simply tired of running them through tons of effects to get anything halfway decent out of that box. Now it's mainly spitting out midi. Why the hell won't Roland make a guitar synth that's got decent sounds? I just got back from a gig, and my wife said, "You're patches sounded great tonight. I usually cringe a few times because I hate the sounds." I knew exactly which patches she was talking about! Anyway, I always wanted a Handsonic. I've put it in the "if I can get a used one for a decent deal" category. If anyone wants to get rid of one cheap, let me know! (what the hell am I saying?) Mark Sottilaro On Sunday, May 5, 2002, at 05:35 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > The Handsonic is very high on instant gratification. I've had a number > of > non-percussionists sit down at mine and have a lot of fun. (I'm a > non-percussionist as well.) > > On the other hand, I have a couple of gripes that seem reflective of > much of > my experience with Roland gear in that the operating system always > seems to > keep it from living up to its promise. Here are the chief issues that > come > to mind: > > * The effects are much like the effects from the SP-808 (and other > Roland > units) but the provisions for realtime control of the effects are much > more > limited. In particular, the unit has 3 knobs purportedly for realtime > sound > tweaking but all they really seem to do most of the time is provide a > slightly faster way to edit kits. I really wish I could do things like > assign the knobs to the feedback level on the delay effects, for > example. > > * The sequencer on board is very weak for loop building and actually > isn't > even much of a sequencer. It doesn't let you erase notes. It doesn't > let you > switch parts while recording. The Handsonic with some good MIDI looping > software in its OS would be really cool. Even just matching some of > what can > be done on things like the MC-505 would be a start. As it is, I end up > just > doing my looping in audio which seems somewhat of a waste since MIDI > data > ought to be more flexible. > > As for the sounds, I don't know whether I prefer it or my Emu Planet > Earth. > The latter probably has better sounds but they are harder to get to. > > Summary: Fun percussion controller with decent sound sets that falls > short > of what it could be by not having an OS that allows much realtime > effects > manipulation nor easy loop creation/manipulation. > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 09:56:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07001; Mon, 6 May 2002 09:54:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:54:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:53:32 EDT Subject: [CT-Collective] Locations volume one review! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ac.26d956b5.2a07e4dc_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: <4wIEQB.A.PtB.Eso18@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_ac.26d956b5.2a07e4dc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/5/02 5:24:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ostberg@gmx.net writes: > At last, from Sonoloco Record Review. > > The full text at: > http://home.swipnet.se/sonoloco9/ct/ctframes.html > --part1_ac.26d956b5.2a07e4dc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/5/02 5:24:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ostberg@gmx.net writes:


At last, from Sonoloco Record Review.

The full text at:
http://home.swipnet.se/sonoloco9/ct/ctframes.html


 --part1_ac.26d956b5.2a07e4dc_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 11:04:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12473; Mon, 6 May 2002 11:03:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 11:03:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: ENAT21213@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 11:02:07 EDT Subject: Loop IV and Loop 3bugs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a9.2716f6e9.2a07f4ef_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10500 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_a9.2716f6e9.2a07f4ef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm wondering if loop IV will be a little less buggy? played last night and a recurring bug surfaced once again: when pressing overdub the signal doubles in volume...once in the loop it's twice as quite as it should be. also had trouble triggering our drum machine............but once i turned the edp off then back on it worked fine. i've gone over all this with shane at gibson and the only thing we could come up with is to reboot the edp.....this does the job for about 4 or 5 shows then the recurring or another bug appears.....kinda embarrassing........guess i should start rebooting before each show? anyone else experiencing bugs. thanks, brian something about vampires and sluts http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/382/something_about_vampires_a.html --part1_a9.2716f6e9.2a07f4ef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm wondering if loop IV will be a little less buggy?
played last night and a recurring bug surfaced once again:
when pressing overdub the signal doubles in volume...once in the loop it's twice as quite as it should be.
also had trouble triggering our drum machine............but once i turned the edp off then back on it worked fine.
i've gone over all this with shane at gibson and the only thing we could come up with is to reboot the edp.....this does the job for about 4 or 5 shows then the recurring or another bug appears.....kinda embarrassing........guess i should start rebooting before each show?
anyone else experiencing bugs.
thanks,
brian
something about vampires and sluts
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/382/something_about_vampires_a.html --part1_a9.2716f6e9.2a07f4ef_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 11:31:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13844; Mon, 6 May 2002 11:25:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 11:25:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: paulrichard10@attbi.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Handsonic Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 15:24:06 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002) Message-Id: <20020506152411.JXZT4412.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I had (and sold) two Handsonics already. It's a great device. I mostly used congas, bongos and wood blocks. I never sctratched the surface of that animal: there are so many world-beat type of sounds that would make composition very interesting (if one had the time). Someone else noted the annoying D-beam inadvertent triggers. Most disconcerting when the sound is a gong! Since I didn't use it all the time, I found it hard to reconcile having a $1000 approx. device sitting around doing nothing. I since bought a bonafide pair of congas and a wood block. Bongos are next on my list (course one needs a good way to mike this stuff). I DID find that (notwithstanding the broad sound pallette available on the HPD-15) real congas are more fun to play and are, needless to say, more dynamic. Although I didn't use it all the time because of laziness, the HPD-15 stand is probably a must-have for stage use. That thing can really slide around on one's lap. Regards, Butch > Hmmm, sounds to me like they mainly expected it to be a performance > instrument, and the sequencer was a second thought. I've seen people do > cool stuff where they seemed to be controlling effects via the d-beam, > no? > > I too have a love/hate relationship with Roland. They seem to favor a > billion presets rather than tweakability. In a way I'm OK with that, as > a lot are great. I used to spend hours and hours making sounds on an > old analog Korg D8000, but I feel I no longer have the time to put into > sound design, as much as I love it. There came a time when I just had > to put more energy into playing. The short of it is I still wish I had > the time to do both! > > I recently picked up a VX-5050, because the sounds on the GR-30 SUCK. I > was plain and simply tired of running them through tons of effects to > get anything halfway decent out of that box. Now it's mainly spitting > out midi. Why the hell won't Roland make a guitar synth that's got > decent sounds? I just got back from a gig, and my wife said, "You're > patches sounded great tonight. I usually cringe a few times because I > hate the sounds." I knew exactly which patches she was talking about! > > Anyway, I always wanted a Handsonic. I've put it in the "if I can get > a used one for a decent deal" category. If anyone wants to get rid of > one cheap, let me know! (what the hell am I saying?) > > Mark Sottilaro > > > On Sunday, May 5, 2002, at 05:35 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > > > The Handsonic is very high on instant gratification. I've had a number > > of > > non-percussionists sit down at mine and have a lot of fun. (I'm a > > non-percussionist as well.) > > > > On the other hand, I have a couple of gripes that seem reflective of > > much of > > my experience with Roland gear in that the operating system always > > seems to > > keep it from living up to its promise. Here are the chief issues that > > come > > to mind: > > > > * The effects are much like the effects from the SP-808 (and other > > Roland > > units) but the provisions for realtime control of the effects are much > > more > > limited. In particular, the unit has 3 knobs purportedly for realtime > > sound > > tweaking but all they really seem to do most of the time is provide a > > slightly faster way to edit kits. I really wish I could do things like > > assign the knobs to the feedback level on the delay effects, for > > example. > > > > * The sequencer on board is very weak for loop building and actually > > isn't > > even much of a sequencer. It doesn't let you erase notes. It doesn't > > let you > > switch parts while recording. The Handsonic with some good MIDI looping > > software in its OS would be really cool. Even just matching some of > > what can > > be done on things like the MC-505 would be a start. As it is, I end up > > just > > doing my looping in audio which seems somewhat of a waste since MIDI > > data > > ought to be more flexible. > > > > As for the sounds, I don't know whether I prefer it or my Emu Planet > > Earth. > > The latter probably has better sounds but they are harder to get to. > > > > Summary: Fun percussion controller with decent sound sets that falls > > short > > of what it could be by not having an OS that allows much realtime > > effects > > manipulation nor easy loop creation/manipulation. > > > > Mark > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 11:41:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14904; Mon, 6 May 2002 11:35:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 11:35:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020506153448.39039.qmail@web21302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 08:34:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: Handsonic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I'm thinking of getting a handsonic particularly for live use - any >comments? I have a friend from another list that used to use one. He said that it proved too fragile. He finally gave up on it after breaking 2-3 of them (replaced under warranty, but still a hassle). Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 12:02:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17300; Mon, 6 May 2002 12:01:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 12:01:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD6A85B.8BD1C10A@ernieball.com> Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 08:59:23 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: EDP Loop4 MIDI Reset? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers Delight From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I spent a few hours over the weekend trying to figure out how to program my PMC-10 as a controller for my newly-upgraded EDP. I managed to get record and overdub happening, but I tried to program a reset and didn't have any luck. Has anyone gotten this working yet? Another related question: I notice in the MIDI chart that there are a few functions that appear to be similar, i.e. Record and SUSrecord. Before I turned the page in the manual and discovered SUSrecord, I implemented a sustained record by programming a note on (#38) when the button is pressed and the same note on again when the button is released. Could I have done the same thing by using the note number for SUSrecord, and then sending a note on followed by a note off? I can see the advantage to these SUS functions if I were using, for example, a keyboard. Is there any advantage to it in my case, using the PMC-10? Thanks, -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 12:31:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18816; Mon, 6 May 2002 12:29:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 12:29:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020506162922.2018.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:29:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: Loop IV and Loop 3bugs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Based on my experience with loop 3 and loop IV, this does not sound like a software problem. I have never experienced the problems you mention with either version, on 3 edp. bret --- ENAT21213@aol.com wrote: > i'm wondering if loop IV will be a little less buggy? > played last night and a recurring bug surfaced once again: > when pressing overdub the signal doubles in volume...once in the loop > it's > twice as quite as it should be. > also had trouble triggering our drum machine............but once i > turned the > edp off then back on it worked fine. > i've gone over all this with shane at gibson and the only thing we > could come > up with is to reboot the edp.....this does the job for about 4 or 5 > shows > then the recurring or another bug appears.....kinda > embarrassing........guess > i should start rebooting before each show? > anyone else experiencing bugs. > thanks, > brian > something about vampires and sluts > http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/382/something_about_vampires_a.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 12:57:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20188; Mon, 6 May 2002 12:56:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 12:56:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020506094059.0271c1e0@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 09:50:24 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Loop IV and Loop 3bugs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 08:02 AM 5/6/2002, ENAT21213@aol.com wrote: >i'm wondering if loop IV will be a little less buggy? ?? that's an odd statement.... I think there were only 2 or 3 bugs ever found in loopIIIv5.0 in the past 5 years and it took 2 years before anybody even found those. Of course Andre insisted that one of them become a feature.... >played last night and a recurring bug surfaced once again: >when pressing overdub the signal doubles in volume...once in the loop it's >twice as quite as it should be. that is a hardware problem, not software. I've seen it before, it usually means the VCA needs to be replaced. >also had trouble triggering our drum machine............but once i turned >the edp off then back on it worked fine. how do you have it set up, and what sort of problem do you have? LoopIV has a lot of new synchronization features, so there will be all sorts of things you can do with a drum machine that are quite exciting. However, it's hard to know if it fixes your problem without more specifics about what your problem is. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 13:05:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22042; Mon, 6 May 2002 13:05:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 13:05:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: faisalmoro@mail.mac.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020506094059.0271c1e0@loopers-delight.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020506094059.0271c1e0@loopers-delight.com> Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 19:04:11 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: faisal moro Subject: a couple of JamMan for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Seems that JanMan is the most hard-to-find device on the planet when you have to buy it, then when you have to sell it nobody wants it :-) So, again, i have 2 expanded (32 secs) JamMans for sale. If SERIOUSLY interested please reply off-list. The're located in Italy, ship everywhere. Thanks Doei Faisal From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 13:40:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24129; Mon, 6 May 2002 13:39:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 13:39:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 13:38:34 -0500 Message-ID: <005c01c1f52d$3ad5ad20$1f64a8c0@billscomp> From: "Bill Cummings" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: "Bill Cummings" References: <20020506152411.JXZT4412.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> Subject: Re: Handsonic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It also fits perfectly in a standard snare cradle. I did bust one of my outputs once, when it got knocked over by my kids ruffhousing. It was right after I got it, and the good ol boys at Guitar Center swapped it out for another unit for me. I've been much more careful since then, and no further problemos. I would imagine that you'd want to be careful with it if you were doing alot of live shows with it, not exactly built like a tank. But I do cherish it for what it is...highly portable and a lot of fun!! I use it on gigs occassionally, but mostly it has found a permanent home in my studio. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Handsonic > I had (and sold) two Handsonics already. It's a great > device. I mostly used congas, bongos and wood blocks. I > never sctratched the surface of that animal: there are > so many world-beat type of sounds that would make > composition very interesting (if one had the time). > > Someone else noted the annoying D-beam inadvertent > triggers. Most disconcerting when the sound is a gong! > > Since I didn't use it all the time, I found it hard to > reconcile having a $1000 approx. device sitting around > doing nothing. I since bought a bonafide pair of congas > and a wood block. Bongos are next on my list (course one > needs a good way to mike this stuff). > > I DID find that (notwithstanding the broad sound > pallette available on the HPD-15) real congas are more > fun to play and are, needless to say, more dynamic. > > Although I didn't use it all the time because of > laziness, the HPD-15 stand is probably a must-have for > stage use. That thing can really slide around on one's > lap. > > Regards, Butch > > Hmmm, sounds to me like they mainly expected it to be a performance > > instrument, and the sequencer was a second thought. I've seen people do > > cool stuff where they seemed to be controlling effects via the d-beam, > > no? > > > > I too have a love/hate relationship with Roland. They seem to favor a > > billion presets rather than tweakability. In a way I'm OK with that, as > > a lot are great. I used to spend hours and hours making sounds on an > > old analog Korg D8000, but I feel I no longer have the time to put into > > sound design, as much as I love it. There came a time when I just had > > to put more energy into playing. The short of it is I still wish I had > > the time to do both! > > > > I recently picked up a VX-5050, because the sounds on the GR-30 SUCK. I > > was plain and simply tired of running them through tons of effects to > > get anything halfway decent out of that box. Now it's mainly spitting > > out midi. Why the hell won't Roland make a guitar synth that's got > > decent sounds? I just got back from a gig, and my wife said, "You're > > patches sounded great tonight. I usually cringe a few times because I > > hate the sounds." I knew exactly which patches she was talking about! > > > > Anyway, I always wanted a Handsonic. I've put it in the "if I can get > > a used one for a decent deal" category. If anyone wants to get rid of > > one cheap, let me know! (what the hell am I saying?) > > > > Mark Sottilaro > > > > > > On Sunday, May 5, 2002, at 05:35 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > > > > > The Handsonic is very high on instant gratification. I've had a number > > > of > > > non-percussionists sit down at mine and have a lot of fun. (I'm a > > > non-percussionist as well.) > > > > > > On the other hand, I have a couple of gripes that seem reflective of > > > much of > > > my experience with Roland gear in that the operating system always > > > seems to > > > keep it from living up to its promise. Here are the chief issues that > > > come > > > to mind: > > > > > > * The effects are much like the effects from the SP-808 (and other > > > Roland > > > units) but the provisions for realtime control of the effects are much > > > more > > > limited. In particular, the unit has 3 knobs purportedly for realtime > > > sound > > > tweaking but all they really seem to do most of the time is provide a > > > slightly faster way to edit kits. I really wish I could do things like > > > assign the knobs to the feedback level on the delay effects, for > > > example. > > > > > > * The sequencer on board is very weak for loop building and actually > > > isn't > > > even much of a sequencer. It doesn't let you erase notes. It doesn't > > > let you > > > switch parts while recording. The Handsonic with some good MIDI looping > > > software in its OS would be really cool. Even just matching some of > > > what can > > > be done on things like the MC-505 would be a start. As it is, I end up > > > just > > > doing my looping in audio which seems somewhat of a waste since MIDI > > > data > > > ought to be more flexible. > > > > > > As for the sounds, I don't know whether I prefer it or my Emu Planet > > > Earth. > > > The latter probably has better sounds but they are harder to get to. > > > > > > Summary: Fun percussion controller with decent sound sets that falls > > > short > > > of what it could be by not having an OS that allows much realtime > > > effects > > > manipulation nor easy loop creation/manipulation. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 14:29:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28269; Mon, 6 May 2002 14:28:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:28:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD6BC5A.6A35C548@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 19:24:42 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP Loop4 MIDI Reset? References: <3CD6A85B.8BD1C10A@ernieball.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hans Lindauer wrote: > > I spent a few hours over the weekend trying to figure out how to program > my PMC-10 as a controller for my newly-upgraded EDP. I managed to get > record and overdub happening, but I tried to program a reset and didn't > have any luck. Has anyone gotten this working yet? This indeed works enter 9x 3d 7f (x is you midi channel in hex) use a momentary pedal type on the pmc reset only resets the current loop see it as a long record press if you have multiple loops try general reset to reset all the loops (9x 3e 7f) or if you tweaked params you could also use pg ch 16 wich means reload (the stored preset replaces the edited preset) > Another related question: I notice in the MIDI chart that there are a > few functions that appear to be similar, i.e. Record and SUSrecord. > Before I turned the page in the manual and discovered SUSrecord, I > implemented a sustained record by programming a note on (#38) when the > button is pressed and the same note on again when the button is > released. Could I have done the same thing by using the note number for > SUSrecord, and then sending a note on followed by a note off? I can see > the advantage to these SUS functions if I were using, for example, a > keyboard. Is there any advantage to it in my case, using the PMC-10? youre right its the same but not every body has the pmc unfortunatly (the pmc allows 2 message being sent in togle or momentary) the great thing is you can have rec & overdub toggle on the plex fs and sus on the pmc besides that there are a lot of sus functions that only exists in the midicommands SusReplace SusSubstitute and the very sexy SusReverse and SusHalfSpeed Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 14:37:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28930; Mon, 6 May 2002 14:36:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:36:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020506113035.0308aec0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:31:47 -0700 To: Loopers Delight List From: Tom Heasley Subject: Fwd: Heasley On Echoes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1407659==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_1407659==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >ECHOES >A Nightly Music Soundscape >Over 170 Radio Stations > >FEATURES AND HIGHLIGHTS >for May 2002 > > >Following is a listing of Echoes features and Living Room Concerts that >may include yourself or one or more of your artists. Keep in mind that >not all stations run all ten hours of ECHOES produced each week. Some >stations also tape delay their broadcasts, and others swap the sequence of >hours. The 3 to 4 dates you'll see with each listing are the initial >broadcast, the following Saturday where many stations tape delay, and the >following Sunday, which is the Echoes Sunday feed. Call one of our 170 >public radio stations for the forthcoming week of ECHOES. > >ARTISTS FEATURED THIS MONTH ON ECHOES >Philip Aaberg, Will Ackerman, Scott August, Patrick Ball, Suzanne Ciani, >Alex Cline, Darshan Ambient, Kodo with Mickey Hart, Danny Heines, Lisa >Lynne, Bobby McFerrin, Richard Searles, Shaman's Dream, Jane Siberry, >Slack Key Trio > > >* denotes Echoes principal weekday & Sunday feeds. >** denotes stations' tape delay dates. >*********************************************************** > >Wednesday 5/08* >TOM HEASLEY: AMBIENT TUBA >"Ambient" is an adjective we toss around a lot on Echoes, but we've never >applied it to the tuba until Tom Heasley's album, WHERE THE EARTH MEETS >THE SKY (Hypnos). Heasley, who lives in Palo Alto, Ca, uses extensive >electronic processing to turn his tuba into a pod of whales and a galactic >transport ship in slow motion, languid soundscapes. It often sounds >electronic, but every sound begins on the tuba. Heasley recently released >a new CD ON THE SENSATIONS OF TONE (Innova). Heasley puffs up and blows >when he demonstrates his techniques on Echoes. > > >John Diliberto >Echoes >Now On More Than 170 Stations >150 Park Rd. >P.O. Box 224 >Eagle, PA 19480 >610-458-0780 >http://www.echoes.org > Tom Heasley NEW CD AVAILABLE (in stores May 14): On the Sensations of Tone, (www.innova.mu) ALSO AVAILABLE: Where the Earth Meets the Sky, (www.hypnos.com) http://bayimproviser.com/TomHeasley 427 Alma St., Suite 206 Palo Alto, CA 94301 P: 650.322.3633 F: 419.831.3809 E: tom@tomheasley.com WEBSITE COMING SOON: TOMHEASLEY.COM Upcoming Solo Concerts: Saturday, May 18, 2002, 9:00 P.M., Doors at 8 Whitebox VIP Lounge / Drum Machine Museum 1067 Market St. #1004 Info/Reservations (only 25 V.I.P.): 415.503.0477 OR http://www.drummachine.com/newsite/events/events.htm also appearing: Wobbly (@10) and Siren (visuals) Admission at door: $7.00 Sunday, June 16, 2002 (Father's Day) 7:30 P.M. First Congregational Church of Berkeley 2345 Channing Way (at Dana) Tickets at door: $15.00 General / $10.00 Students, Seniors and Fathers Autumn 2002 Tour will include: Roulette, NYC The BBC, London --=====================_1407659==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
ECHOES
A Nightly Music Soundscape
Over 170 Radio Stations

FEATURES AND HIGHLIGHTS
for May 2002


Following is a listing of Echoes features and Living Room Concerts that may include yourself or one or more of your artists.  Keep in mind that not all stations run all ten hours of ECHOES produced each week.  Some stations also tape delay their broadcasts, and others swap the sequence of hours.  The 3 to 4 dates you'll see with each listing are the initial broadcast, the following Saturday where many stations tape delay, and the following Sunday, which is the Echoes Sunday feed. Call one of our 170 public radio stations for the forthcoming week of ECHOES.

ARTISTS FEATURED THIS MONTH ON ECHOES
Philip Aaberg, Will Ackerman, Scott August, Patrick Ball, Suzanne Ciani, Alex Cline, Darshan Ambient, Kodo with Mickey Hart, Danny Heines, Lisa Lynne, Bobby McFerrin, Richard Searles, Shaman's Dream, Jane Siberry, Slack Key Trio


*  denotes Echoes principal weekday & Sunday feeds.
** denotes stations' tape delay dates.
***********************************************************

Wednesday 5/08*
TOM HEASLEY: AMBIENT TUBA
"Ambient" is an adjective we toss around a lot on Echoes, but we've never applied it to the tuba until Tom Heasley's album, WHERE THE EARTH MEETS THE SKY (Hypnos).  Heasley, who lives in Palo Alto, Ca, uses extensive electronic processing to turn his tuba into a pod of whales and a galactic transport ship in slow motion, languid soundscapes.  It often sounds electronic, but every sound begins on the tuba.  Heasley recently released a new CD ON THE SENSATIONS OF TONE (Innova). Heasley puffs up and blows when he demonstrates his techniques on Echoes.


John Diliberto
Echoes
Now On More Than 170 Stations
150 Park Rd.
P.O. Box 224
Eagle, PA 19480
610-458-0780
http://www.echoes.org


Tom Heasley
NEW CD AVAILABLE (in stores May 14):  On the Sensations of Tone,  (www.innova.mu)
ALSO AVAILABLE:  Where the Earth Meets the Sky,  (www.hypnos.com)

http://bayimproviser.com/TomHeasley
427 Alma St., Suite 206         
Palo Alto, CA  94301
P:  650.322.3633                
F:  419.831.3809
E:  tom@tomheasley.com
WEBSITE COMING SOON:  TOMHEASLEY.COM

Upcoming Solo Concerts:

Saturday, May 18, 2002, 9:00 P.M., Doors at 8
Whitebox VIP Lounge / Drum Machine Museum
1067 Market St.  #1004
Info/Reservations (only 25 V.I.P.):  415.503.0477 OR <mickeyt@drummachine.com>
http://www.drummachine.com/newsite/events/events.htm
also appearing:  Wobbly (@10) and Siren (visuals)
Admission at door: $7.00

Sunday, June 16, 2002  (Father's Day) 7:30 P.M.
First Congregational Church of Berkeley
2345 Channing Way (at Dana)
Tickets at door:  $15.00 General / $10.00 Students, Seniors and Fathers

Autumn 2002 Tour will include:

Roulette, NYC
The BBC, London --=====================_1407659==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 14:38:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29136; Mon, 6 May 2002 14:37:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:37:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.91] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:36:35 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2002 18:36:35.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[F39A33E0:01C1F52C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I hear that the Big Briar Phaser whoops a llama's ass, but I haven't personally tried it. http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/spec/103.html?L+scstore+ggwp2101ff5c9c5c+1041770651 >From: "Reid, Benjamin" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > >Subject: OT: Phaser recommend >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:33:20 -0400 > >Sorry for OT post but this is a good group to query. Wondering if people >have a recommend on a dedicated commercial or kit phaser. I am looking for >one that is already very versitile or can be modded to produce a very long >phase period (up to 60 seconds). Additionally, a sawtooth waveform would be >super-cool as well. Most of the commercial pedals I have seen are not >extreme enough for my purposes; some kits I have found online look >promising; I have not investigated rackmount units yet. > >Any suggestions are appreciated!! > >Thanks, > >Ben _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 15:39:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00543; Mon, 6 May 2002 15:36:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:36:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: burnett@pobox.com X-Authentication-Warning: giggles.cavesofice.org: badger owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:40:09 -0400 (EDT) X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Mon, 6 May 2002, Peter Underwood wrote: > I hear that the Big Briar Phaser whoops a llama's ass, but I haven't > personally tried it. I've got the Big Briar phaser and love it. Its rate control is adjustable down to 1 cycle per 100 seconds. It doesn't do a sawtooth, though, to the best of my understanding. The Big Briar CP-251 Control Processor has a triangular and a square wave output from its LFO, and can be used to control the rate on the BBriar phaser. While the LFO on the Control Processor has a Rate knob labeled from 0.2 cycles/second to 50 cycles/second, the manual reads: "The LFO frequency can go both lower than the minimum calibration on the RATE control by applying a negative control voltage...The minimum frequency is less than 0.03 Hz (one cycle every 33 seconds)." (which is really cool to know, as I hadn't looked at that page before today). So you can get a sine wave cycle of 100sec, or a triangular of 33 seconds, but I don't know how to get a sawtooth waveform with a 60sec cycle. If you can find a way to generate a sawtooth coontrol voltage signal of 0-5v with a 60 second cycle you can use that to control the rate of the Big Briar phaser and get what you're looking for. best, Steve Burnett burnett@pobox.com > > http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/spec/103.html?L+scstore+ggwp2101ff5c9c5c+1041770651 > > > >From: "Reid, Benjamin" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > > > >Subject: OT: Phaser recommend > >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:33:20 -0400 > > > >Sorry for OT post but this is a good group to query. Wondering if people > >have a recommend on a dedicated commercial or kit phaser. I am looking for > >one that is already very versitile or can be modded to produce a very long > >phase period (up to 60 seconds). Additionally, a sawtooth waveform would be > >super-cool as well. Most of the commercial pedals I have seen are not > >extreme enough for my purposes; some kits I have found online look > >promising; I have not investigated rackmount units yet. > > > >Any suggestions are appreciated!! > > > >Thanks, > > > >Ben > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 16:31:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04390; Mon, 6 May 2002 16:30:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 16:30:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 13:30:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Handsonic From: Mark Hamburg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 5/5/02 11:44 PM, Mark Sottilaro at sine@zerocrossing.net wrote: > I've seen people do > cool stuff where they seemed to be controlling effects via the d-beam, > no? Yes. But the control isn't as deep as on some other Roland boxes and since the sequencer is poor this means that you've only got one hand available for playing the drums. (What I really want in a looping MIDI controller is something that notices that you seem to be cycling on a particular pattern and takes over playing that part so that you can do work on top of it. I'd settle, however, for something that just made it easy to drop parts in and out, replace parts, write new loops, etc. all live. Put that together with effects oriented toward live tweaking and it would make for a really cool instrument. I've contemplated getting a Repeater and using the multitrack and FX loop support there, but it's only 4-tracks and it feels stupid to have a box with 64-voice polyphony that is basically just delivering a couple of voices into an audio looper.) Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 17:39:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09319; Mon, 6 May 2002 17:38:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 17:38:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c1f546$16557660$0fe45cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #267 Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 17:36:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ] EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #267 May 2, 2002. RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Steve Roach and vidnaObmana, who will be making rare concert appearances together at Projektfest and the Gathering this coming Memorial Day weekend. The Featured CD at midnight was disc one of "Well of Souls" on the Projekt label. The vinyl show starter was from the LP "Possible Musics" by Jon Hassell and Brian Eno on the Editions E.G. label. Steve Roach and vidnaObmana http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2002/focus02.html#may Projektfest and the Gathering http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic/events.html PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Joh Hassell and Delta Rain Dream Possible Musics (Editions E.G.) Brian Eno Wendy Carlos Marche in D Major from Switched on Bach II (East Side Suite from Anna Magdalena Notebook Digital) Mark Jenkins The Stone Sequencer Loops (AMP) Mark Jenkins A Gift for the Darkness Sequencer Loops (AMP) VA [Spyra] Past Train to Bayreuth First Decade (Manikin) Ron Boots Centre of the Sphere Liquid Structures in Solid Form (Groove) Boots, Aerts, vd Heijden Take Off Livelines (Groove) Rudy Adrian and Kaleidoscope Imagery Concerts in New Zealand Nick Prosser (Quantum) Don Slepian Sea of Bliss * Sea of Bliss (none) 12:00 am Roach & Obmana In the Presence of Well of Souls (Projekt) Something Roach & Obmana In the Realm of Twi-ight Well of Souls (Projekt) light - Outlands One Roach & Obmana The Secret Arrival - Well of Souls (Projekt) Outlands Two Roach & Obmana The Gathering Well of Souls (Projekt) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach and vidnaObmana. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disc two from "Well of Souls" on the Projekt label. The vinyl show starter will be from the LP "Nada" by Peter Michael Hamer on the Wergo Spectrum label. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://www.tadream.net/soundscapes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 18:11:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12410; Mon, 6 May 2002 18:10:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:10:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: OT: Phaser recommend Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:09:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com exactly what I'm looking for. thanks for the tips!! (now to come up with the cash...) -----Original Message----- From: burnett@pobox.com [mailto:burnett@pobox.com] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:40 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend On Mon, 6 May 2002, Peter Underwood wrote: > I hear that the Big Briar Phaser whoops a llama's ass, but I haven't > personally tried it. I've got the Big Briar phaser and love it. Its rate control is adjustable down to 1 cycle per 100 seconds. It doesn't do a sawtooth, though, to the best of my understanding. The Big Briar CP-251 Control Processor has a triangular and a square wave output from its LFO, and can be used to control the rate on the BBriar phaser. While the LFO on the Control Processor has a Rate knob labeled from 0.2 cycles/second to 50 cycles/second, the manual reads: "The LFO frequency can go both lower than the minimum calibration on the RATE control by applying a negative control voltage...The minimum frequency is less than 0.03 Hz (one cycle every 33 seconds)." (which is really cool to know, as I hadn't looked at that page before today). So you can get a sine wave cycle of 100sec, or a triangular of 33 seconds, but I don't know how to get a sawtooth waveform with a 60sec cycle. If you can find a way to generate a sawtooth coontrol voltage signal of 0-5v with a 60 second cycle you can use that to control the rate of the Big Briar phaser and get what you're looking for. best, Steve Burnett burnett@pobox.com > > http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/spec/103.html?L+scstore+g gwp2101ff5c9c5c+1041770651 > > > >From: "Reid, Benjamin" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > > > >Subject: OT: Phaser recommend > >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:33:20 -0400 > > > >Sorry for OT post but this is a good group to query. Wondering if people > >have a recommend on a dedicated commercial or kit phaser. I am looking for > >one that is already very versitile or can be modded to produce a very long > >phase period (up to 60 seconds). Additionally, a sawtooth waveform would be > >super-cool as well. Most of the commercial pedals I have seen are not > >extreme enough for my purposes; some kits I have found online look > >promising; I have not investigated rackmount units yet. > > > >Any suggestions are appreciated!! > > > >Thanks, > > > >Ben > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 18:31:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13310; Mon, 6 May 2002 18:30:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:30:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD703A3.DA389B61@ernieball.com> Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 15:28:51 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EDP Loop4 MIDI Reset? References: <200205062031.QAA04490@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I wrote: > > I spent a few hours over the weekend trying to figure out how to > program > > my PMC-10 as a controller for my newly-upgraded EDP. I managed to > get > > record and overdub happening, but I tried to program a reset and > didn't > > have any luck. Has anyone gotten this working yet? Claude Responded: > This indeed works enter 9x 3d 7f (x is you midi channel in hex) > use a momentary pedal type on the pmc > > reset only resets the current loop see it as a long record press > if you have multiple loops try general reset to reset all the loops > (9x 3e 7f) > or if you tweaked params you could also use pg ch 16 wich means reload > (the stored preset replaces the edited preset) Now I see the difference between Reset and General Reset (another question I had). I'm using the umbilical programmer to program the PMC-10 so I'm not familiar with those hex strings, but I'm guessing that the first hex value indicates the MIDI channel, the second is the note value, and the third is the velocity? I left the velocity at 64 when I tried it - would that make a difference? Also, should this be programmed as a note on/note off combination, or just as a note on? Thanks Claude! -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 21:05:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24450; Mon, 6 May 2002 21:04:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 21:04:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD727E8.75B36693@zerocrossing.net> Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 18:03:36 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Handsonic References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mark Hamburg wrote: I'd settle, however, for > something that just made it easy to drop parts in and out, replace parts, > write new loops, etc. all live. Put that together with effects oriented > toward live tweaking and it would make for a really cool instrument. I bet you could accomplish a lot of that with something from the Roland MC series, though I've never tried to loop stuff on the fly with my MC-307. I'll experiment and let you know. Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 21:46:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA26537; Mon, 6 May 2002 21:45:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 21:45:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: chillyb@mail.cruzio.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020506113035.0308aec0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:50:00 -0700 To: Tom Heasley , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "William R. Walker," Subject: Re: Fwd: Heasley On Echoes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Great set at the Rio the other night, Tom. Really beautifull soundscapes you were creating, great work from Dana as well. The visuals behind you were very supportive of your music and very hypnotic. thanks for the inspiration. Bill Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 6 23:13:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02563; Mon, 6 May 2002 23:12:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 23:12:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Qua and Vishara Veda" To: Subject: Theo Bleckman Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 20:11:53 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, awhile back there was a posting about Theo Bleckman, and extraordinary vocalist who performs with various effects, instruments etc. I just received his CD, "Origami". Its really wonderful! Thanks to the person who posted info. about him!! -Qua From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 01:43:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA13951; Tue, 7 May 2002 01:42:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 01:42:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 22:43:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Handsonic From: Mark Hamburg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3CD727E8.75B36693@zerocrossing.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've got an MC-505 and it certainly works a bit better than the Handsonic for editing patterns and doing some stuff on the fly, but it still feels sort of convoluted for doing much live work -- particularly if I wanted to use my Handsonic as a controller. If you have much luck with your MC-307 let me know. It might push me to try harder to make my MC-505 work. Mark on 5/6/02 6:03 PM, Mark Sottilaro at sine@zerocrossing.net wrote: > Mark Hamburg wrote: I'd settle, however, for > >> something that just made it easy to drop parts in and out, replace parts, >> write new loops, etc. all live. Put that together with effects oriented >> toward live tweaking and it would make for a really cool instrument. > > I bet you could accomplish a lot of that with something from the Roland MC > series, though I've never tried to loop stuff on the fly with my MC-307. I'll > experiment and let you know. > > Mark Sottilaro > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 03:03:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA20157; Tue, 7 May 2002 03:01:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 03:01:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <13e.df5e744.2a08d596@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 03:00:38 EDT Subject: Re: Theo Bleckman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_13e.df5e744.2a08d596_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: <1tleWB.A.u6E.zu318@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_13e.df5e744.2a08d596_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i have a ben monder cd w/ theo on it. very cool stuff. =-) PJ --part1_13e.df5e744.2a08d596_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i have a ben monder cd w/ theo on it. very cool stuff.                               =-) PJ --part1_13e.df5e744.2a08d596_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 05:32:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA29972; Tue, 7 May 2002 05:31:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 05:31:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD78FFB.D0F81CF@vtx.ch> Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 10:27:39 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP Loop4 MIDI Reset? References: <200205062031.QAA04490@hemlock.violacea.com> <3CD703A3.DA389B61@ernieball.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hans 1st, if you have a pc get yourself Raymond the pmc10 editor for windows at our LD member Sean's site http://www.mindspring.com/~sean_/pmc/index.html it will be much more simpler from there in the same download is a Midi/hex calculator wich will help you master the hex/midi stuff for those resets, a note on, on a momentary switch is enough if you want to put the note off it is ok too 90 3d 7f : midi chan 1, midi note 61, note on (velocity 127) claude Hans Lindauer wrote: > > I wrote: > > > > I spent a few hours over the weekend trying to figure out how to > > program > > > my PMC-10 as a controller for my newly-upgraded EDP. I managed to > > get > > > record and overdub happening, but I tried to program a reset and > > didn't > > > have any luck. Has anyone gotten this working yet? > > Claude Responded: > > > This indeed works enter 9x 3d 7f (x is you midi channel in hex) > > use a momentary pedal type on the pmc > > > > reset only resets the current loop see it as a long record press > > if you have multiple loops try general reset to reset all the loops > > (9x 3e 7f) > > or if you tweaked params you could also use pg ch 16 wich means reload > > (the stored preset replaces the edited preset) > > Now I see the difference between Reset and General Reset (another > question I had). I'm using the umbilical programmer to program the > PMC-10 so I'm not familiar with those hex strings, but I'm guessing that > the first hex value indicates the MIDI channel, the second is the note > value, and the third is the velocity? I left the velocity at 64 when I > tried it - would that make a difference? Also, should this be > programmed as a note on/note off combination, or just as a note on? > > Thanks Claude! > > -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 11:12:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27398; Tue, 7 May 2002 11:06:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:06:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: myoder@dusty.tamiu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <13e.df5e744.2a08d596@aol.com> References: <13e.df5e744.2a08d596@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 10:05:17 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Yoder Subject: Re: Theo Bleckman on Ben Monder CD Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1191338578==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: <8jsNaC.A.FrG.10-18@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1191338578==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >i have a ben monder cd w/ theo on it. very cool stuff. >=-) PJ What's the name of the CD? I like Ben Monder's work. Thanks. Michael -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Michael S. Yoder, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Geography and Urban Studies Texas A&M International University Department of Social Sciences 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 (956) 326-2634 FAX (956) 326-2459 http://www.tamiu.edu/~myoder/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= --============_-1191338578==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Theo Bleckman on Ben Monder CD

i have a ben monder cd w/ theo on it. very cool stuff.                               =-) PJ


What's the name of the CD?  I like Ben Monder's work.

Thanks.
Michael
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--============_-1191338578==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 11:36:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29509; Tue, 7 May 2002 11:35:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:35:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: ENAT21213@aol.com Message-ID: <103.14f4c118.2a094df1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:34:09 EDT Subject: Re: Loop IV and Loop 3bugs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_103.14f4c118.2a094df1_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10500 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_103.14f4c118.2a094df1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/6/02 12:56:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kflint@loopers-delight.com writes: > > >played last night and a recurring bug surfaced once again: > >when pressing overdub the signal doubles in volume...once in the loop it's > > >twice as quite as it should be. > > that is a hardware problem, not software. I've seen it before, it usually > means the VCA needs to be replaced. > thanks kim, this is the first time i've heard anyone but me seen this problem.......this is one of the issues i've been going through with my like 3rd edp(keep sending them back to gibson and receiving new ones only to find another problem). > >also had trouble triggering our drum machine............but once i turned > >the edp off then back on it worked fine. > > how do you have it set up, and what sort of problem do you have? > > LoopIV has a lot of new synchronization features, so there will be all > sorts of things you can do with a drum machine that are quite exciting. > However, it's hard to know if it fixes your problem without more specifics > about what your problem is. > > press record and the record button again and it generally works 98% of the time......but then there's that 2%. thank you for your help and advice! brian something about vampires and sluts http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/382/something_about_vampires_a.html --part1_103.14f4c118.2a094df1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/6/02 12:56:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kflint@loopers-delight.com writes:


>played last night and a recurring bug surfaced once again:
>when pressing overdub the signal doubles in volume...once in the loop it's
>twice as quite as it should be.

that is a hardware problem, not software. I've seen it before, it usually
means the VCA needs to be replaced.


thanks kim,
this is the first time i've  heard anyone but me seen this problem.......this is one of the issues i've been going through with my like 3rd edp(keep sending them back to gibson and receiving new ones only to find another problem).


>also had trouble triggering our drum machine............but once i turned
>the edp off then back on it worked fine.

how do you have it set up, and what sort of problem do you have?

LoopIV has a lot of new synchronization features, so there will be all
sorts of things you can do with a drum machine that are quite exciting.
However, it's hard to know if it fixes your problem without more specifics
about what your problem is.


press record and the record button again and it generally works 98% of the time......but then there's that 2%.
thank you for your help and advice!
brian
something about vampires and sluts
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/382/something_about_vampires_a.html
 --part1_103.14f4c118.2a094df1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 12:37:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03486; Tue, 7 May 2002 12:36:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:36:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020507091513.02cb5a78@annihilist.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 09:29:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: SF gig spam - Amy X Neuburg at DIVAfest May 16, 18, 24, 25 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <5uz1vB.A.b0.JJA28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Folks- Amy X Neuburg sent me this blurb about her upcoming show as part of the DIVAfest performance series in San Francisco. Amy is a really amazing musician and performer. After the LoopIV release party she invited us over to her studio the next day to check out her looping approach, and I was just blown away by her music. Her entire show centers around the EDP, which she uses for looping her voice and percussion. On top of that, she is a very entertaining performer and puts on a great show. I highly recommend seeing her if you have the chance. Currently Amy is using the just-about-to-be-released LoopIV software in her Echoplex. She is making heavy use of the Tempo Select and Preset features so that she can call up a preset tempo for each piece and have that drive midi clock to sync all of her other devices before she starts looping. So you can check that out too! from Amy: *************************************************** Hello Friends! I, Amy X Neuburg, hereby cordially invite you to get your little diva butts on down to EXIT Theatre's DIVAfest -- two weekends (May 16-25) of plays, solos, cabarets and comedy celebrating womanhood from minx to matriarch, virgin to vamp, and taking place on all four EXIT stages. To read about the full line-up of acts, see www.sffringe.org. My show is called SONGS ABOUT LIFE & DEATH & LOVE & INSECTS and plays as follows: THURSDAY MAY 16, 8 PM SATURDAY MAY 18, 3 PM matinee FRIDAY MAY 24, 8 PM SATURDAY MAY 25, 8 PM Taking the musical revue form to its quirkiest, this is a theatrical setting of my songs for voice, drums and electronics, with projections, MIDI-controlled lights (God willing), movement, electronic triggers sprinkled about the stage, and groovy sound and visual design by Herb Heinz and Dale MacDonald. The Festival is billing it as a "one-woman techno circus." Who am I to let them down? MAY 24 & 25 ONLY: Dancer/choreographer NINA HAFT will take over the stage after my show, performing two short but highly diva-esque works, including a re-working of "The Ring" -- our collaborative piece in which I sing and "dance" wearing a box. EXIT ON TAYLOR Theatre 277 Taylor Street, San Francisco $12 - $20 sliding scale 5/18 matinee $10 All-festival pass $55 Tickets available at (415) 673-3847, Tix Bay Area at Union Square, and at Ticketweb.com. To read about the full line-up of acts, see www.sffringe.org. Hope to see you! Love and xx - a ***************************************** P.S. This FRIDAY MAY 10, 10-11 PM, I'll be performing live on KFJC 89.7 FM (Los Altos Hills, CA), or tune in on the web at kfjc.org. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++ Amy X Neuburg +++ http://www.isproductions.com/amy ++++++++++++++++++++++++ ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 13:04:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07503; Tue, 7 May 2002 13:03:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 13:03:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: burnett@pobox.com X-Authentication-Warning: giggles.cavesofice.org: badger owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 13:05:08 -0400 (EDT) X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: OT: Phaser recommend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <1Jnbb.A.vyB.kgA28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I asked a contact at Big Briar who replied (in response to your question): "Piece of cake if you have a CP-251 control processor. Turn the LFO rate all the way down, patch the square wave into the Rate input, and the waveform at the triangle wave output will be a falling sawtooth wave of 1/60 Hz (actually the one I measured came in at 55 seconds/cycle - pretty dang close). If you want a rising sawtooth, run it through the mixer and use the inverting output." Use the above CV to control the Rate on the Big Briar phaser and you are set. Now that I know how to do this, and since I have both pieces of gear here, I'm going to have to try it out :). Kudos to Big Briar for cool gear and tech support. obLoop: so if I do give this a try and like it, the only item I've got here that'll loop 60seconds is the Repeater. Maybe try it in reverse and use the 60secsawtoothphaser as a kind of "paragraph" delimiter to modulate a shorter loop "sentence". best, Steve Burnett burnett@pobox.com On Mon, 6 May 2002, Reid, Benjamin wrote: > exactly what I'm looking for. thanks for the tips!! (now to come up with the > cash...) > > -----Original Message----- > From: burnett@pobox.com [mailto:burnett@pobox.com] > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:40 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend > > > On Mon, 6 May 2002, Peter Underwood wrote: > > > I hear that the Big Briar Phaser whoops a llama's ass, but I haven't > > personally tried it. > > I've got the Big Briar phaser and love it. Its rate control is adjustable > down to 1 cycle per 100 seconds. It doesn't do a sawtooth, though, to the > best of my understanding. > > The Big Briar CP-251 Control Processor has a triangular and a square wave > output from its LFO, and can be used to control the rate on the BBriar > phaser. While the LFO on the Control Processor has a Rate knob labeled > from 0.2 cycles/second to 50 cycles/second, the manual reads: > "The LFO frequency can go both lower than the minimum calibration on the > RATE control by applying a negative control voltage...The minimum > frequency is less than 0.03 Hz (one cycle every 33 seconds)." > > (which is really cool to know, as I hadn't looked at that page before > today). > > So you can get a sine wave cycle of 100sec, or a triangular of 33 seconds, > but I don't know how to get a sawtooth waveform with a 60sec cycle. If you > can find a way to generate a sawtooth coontrol voltage signal of 0-5v > with a 60 second cycle you can use that to control the rate of the Big > Briar phaser and get what you're looking for. > > best, > Steve Burnett > burnett@pobox.com > > > > > > > http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/spec/103.html?L+scstore+g > gwp2101ff5c9c5c+1041770651 > > > > > > >From: "Reid, Benjamin" > > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > > > > > >Subject: OT: Phaser recommend > > >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:33:20 -0400 > > > > > >Sorry for OT post but this is a good group to query. Wondering if people > > >have a recommend on a dedicated commercial or kit phaser. I am looking > for > > >one that is already very versitile or can be modded to produce a very > long > > >phase period (up to 60 seconds). Additionally, a sawtooth waveform would > be > > >super-cool as well. Most of the commercial pedals I have seen are not > > >extreme enough for my purposes; some kits I have found online look > > >promising; I have not investigated rackmount units yet. > > > > > >Any suggestions are appreciated!! > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 13:13:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07846; Tue, 7 May 2002 13:05:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 13:05:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 10:04:07 -0700 From: Greg Kucharo Subject: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.5.1 (Blindsider) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992242 Not really looping, but still interesting to this group i'll wager. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 13:35:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10528; Tue, 7 May 2002 13:31:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 13:31:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c1f5ec$f0179990$8628a8c0@CAMPBEBOWIN2K> From: "Bob Campbell" To: References: Subject: Re: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 10:30:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Here are some audio samples of this software. U gotta love abstract music to dig this :) http://www.timblackwell.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Kucharo" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992242 > > Not really looping, but still interesting to this group i'll wager. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 16:00:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28681; Tue, 7 May 2002 15:57:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:57:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020507195619.6626.qmail@web12307.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Gig Spam - NYC To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey all - reminder for my weekly Thursday gig at Chama, 332 East 4th Street, bwt. C/D at 9:30 p.m. please be sure and say 'allo if you can make it. best regards, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 16:20:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32152; Tue, 7 May 2002 16:15:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:15:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:12:37 EDT Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V02 #286 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > besides that there are a lot of sus functions that only exists in the > midicommands > SusReplace SusSubstitute and the very sexy SusReverse and SusHalfSpeed > > Claude Hey Claude, what version you got there?? Replace and Substitute are both SUStain functions when called from the Insert button. (they only operate for as long as the button is held down) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 16:36:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02604; Tue, 7 May 2002 16:35:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:35:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.122.40.216] From: "angelo valadon" Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: basic loops Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 13:34:07 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 20:34:07.0330 (UTC) FILETIME=[8916E420:01C1F606] Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com please help! i am just getting into looping and i have a very basic question: i want to loop a normal audio cassette tape, but i can't figure out how to provide the necessary tension/friction to make the tape spin. once detached from the wheel the wheels of course just turn without moving the tape. any comments would be greatly appreciated.. please post or respond to juniorfats@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 16:45:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03400; Tue, 7 May 2002 16:43:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:43:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 13:40:31 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software In-reply-to: <000e01c1f5ec$f0179990$8628a8c0@CAMPBEBOWIN2K> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <000e01c1f5ec$f0179990$8628a8c0@CAMPBEBOWIN2K> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:30 AM -0700 5/7/02, Bob Campbell wrote: >Here are some audio samples of this software. U gotta love abstract music >to dig this :) > >http://www.timblackwell.com/ > > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992242 Tim Blackwell states, "Swarm Music is believed to be the first application of swarm intelligence to music." At least one prior example is Eric Singer's "boids" object for Max http://www.ericsinger.com/Downloads/Boids.1.51.sea.hqx, an implementation of Craig Reynolds' 1987 algorithm of the same name http://www.red3d.com/cwr/boids/ -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 16:55:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04305; Tue, 7 May 2002 16:54:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:54:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 13:49:46 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: basic loops In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 1:34 PM -0700 5/7/02, angelo valadon wrote: >i want to loop a normal audio cassette tape, but i can't figure out >how to provide the necessary tension/friction to make the tape spin. >once detached from the wheel the wheels of course just turn without >moving the tape. Loop cassettes are available in various lengths. These will work in any cassette deck, with the proviso that they are "single sided" - that is the cassette is constructed to run in one direction only and you can't flip it over or rewind it. In my experience with loop cassettes I've found that there is invariably a dropout at the punch in/out point. Perhaps someone else has developed some techniques to circumvent this? -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 17:05:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06040; Tue, 7 May 2002 17:00:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:00:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:58:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I don't know guys, it sounds to me like that software is full of bugs. Waka Waka Waka -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:41 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software At 10:30 AM -0700 5/7/02, Bob Campbell wrote: >Here are some audio samples of this software. U gotta love abstract music >to dig this :) > >http://www.timblackwell.com/ > > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992242 Tim Blackwell states, "Swarm Music is believed to be the first application of swarm intelligence to music." At least one prior example is Eric Singer's "boids" object for Max http://www.ericsinger.com/Downloads/Boids.1.51.sea.hqx, an implementation of Craig Reynolds' 1987 algorithm of the same name http://www.red3d.com/cwr/boids/ -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 17:09:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06819; Tue, 7 May 2002 17:07:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:07:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 17:05:42 -0400 From: skincage Subject: Re: basic loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <004501c1f60a$f31c2b60$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com my guess is that the dropout is from the little metal strip on the splice which in the original context of the tape would trigger the answering machine to stop playing the outgoing message. you could probably de-splice, pull it off, and resplice with some tape to create a more seamless loop. try to do it without taking the cassette apart though, trust me. i had to give up after opening one once. Jon > In my experience with loop cassettes I've found that there is > invariably a dropout at the punch in/out point. Perhaps someone else > has developed some techniques to circumvent this? > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 17:11:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07188; Tue, 7 May 2002 17:10:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:10:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 17:08:03 -0400 From: skincage Subject: Re: basic loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <004f01c1f60b$46f32ea0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com oh yeah angelo, btw, check in your local radio shack type store. if you're lucky, they'll have the cassettes laying around in lengths from 15 seconds to 5 minutes. should be near the phones. you'll also find splicing tape and a splicing block there. if you're *really* lucky they'll be clearing them out for like 50 cents apiece. if you can't find them at radio shack, look for old answering machines in thrift stores. have fun! Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Zvonar To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: basic loops > At 1:34 PM -0700 5/7/02, angelo valadon wrote: > >i want to loop a normal audio cassette tape, but i can't figure out > >how to provide the necessary tension/friction to make the tape spin. > >once detached from the wheel the wheels of course just turn without > >moving the tape. > > Loop cassettes are available in various lengths. These will work in > any cassette deck, with the proviso that they are "single sided" - > that is the cassette is constructed to run in one direction only and > you can't flip it over or rewind it. > > In my experience with loop cassettes I've found that there is > invariably a dropout at the punch in/out point. Perhaps someone else > has developed some techniques to circumvent this? > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://RZCybernetics.com > http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 17:21:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07590; Tue, 7 May 2002 17:15:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:15:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 17:14:32 -0400 Subject: Gig spam may 16th at Galapagos From: todd reynolds To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA07509 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greetings to the list!!! This gig ALWAYS features plenty of looping, this time including phil kline, analog looper of death... And my own rig, AND a laptop guy who processes my loops... If you want to hear sound, go to http://www.toddreynolds.com/music.html Here is the press release... ========================== Violinist and Composer Todd Reynolds presents: Still Life With Microphone Version 3.0 Todd Reynolds assembles three very different and powerful artistic voices, downtown genre-destroying band GUTBUCKET, composer and boombox maestro PHIL KLINE, and laptopist DJ JESSE STILES, for an innovative evening of feature performances and interactive explorations. Thursday, May 16, 2002, 8:00pm Galapagos Art Space 70 N 6th St., Williamsburg, Brooklyn 718.782.5188 (Bedford stop on L train) www.galapagosartspace.com € www.toddreynolds.com April 30, New York On Thursday, May 16, violinist and composer Todd Reynolds continues to redefine łconcert performance˛ with the third installment of Still Life With Microphone at Galapagos Art Space. The previous two incarnations of Still Life... unified a range of performance disciplines and content: composed music by Todd Reynolds, the ensemble members and others; improvised music; improvised text; and spontaneously directed movement in the space, all orchestrated in real time using a conducting/composing system called Sound Painting, a gesture-based medium for structured improvisation developed by composer Walter Thompson that directs individual and ensemble actions in real time. While continuing the all-over stylistic and staging effect found in the previous versions of Still LifeŠ, Todd Reynolds is viewing Version 3.0 from a curatorąs perspective, bringing together three very different and powerful artistic voices to perform their own material, interact with each other, and integrate their audiences in a collaborative art event. Each łvoice˛ is indeed distinct and unique and includes downtown genre-destroying quartet Gutbucket, post-Minimalist composer Phil Kline with his battery of boomboxes and looping gear in tow, and laptopist DJ Jesse Stiles utilizing the performative software MAX/MSP with Reynolds himself, who The New Yorker calls łNew Yorkąs leading classical/jazz violinist˛, on amplified and digitized violin. The music will seamlessly flow between the component voices, developed and directed by Reynolds using Sound Painting. The performance will be structured in two 50-60 minute sets with a short break between them, with all three groups performing throughout the evening, both alone and in situations with others, sometimes orchestrated, sometimes spontaneous. Still Life With Microphone Version 3.0 takes place in the rapturous confines of Williamsburgąs preeminent performing art space, Galapagos. The New York Times describes it as having ła truly sublime reflecting pool, an expansive cathedral-like interior, brilliant spotlightingŠ˛ and as an łever-growing cultural oasis.˛ Please join Todd Reynolds and company for this visionary and innovative musical event. The following is a brief description of the Still Life With Microphone series by Todd Reynolds: łStill Life with Microphone grows out of a desire to bring my varied interests and modes of artistic expression under one roof. It allows me to piece together my love of theatre, improvisation, conducting and directing, editing and organizing ideas, and of performing. A typical Still LifeŠ event involves a cast of 5 to 8 performers across disciplines, composed music, improvised music, theater, video, and movement, creating a seamless magic carpet ride for the audience through events, styles, and genres.˛ More information about Todd: Violinist and composer Todd Reynolds is one of the most active musicians on the contemporary music scene. He is a founding member of New Yorkąs hottest string quartet, Ethel. He explores composing and improvising in his music-based performance art project Still Life With Mic. Todd is violinist for the Bang On A Can All Stars and Yo Yo Maąs Silk Road Project. He a frequent guest artist with the Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center and recently appeared as soloist with Yo Yo Ma in Tan Dun's Water Passion after St. Matthew at the Barbican Center in London. He acts as assistant conductor and violinist for Steve Reich and Musicians and the Walter Thompson Orchestra. Todd has premiered an immense number of compositions by composers including Michael Gordon, John King, Steve Reich, Elliot Sharp, Julia Wolfe, and Randall Wolff, As an improvisor and solo interpreter of new musics from classical to jazz and pop, and has appeared and/or recorded with such artists as Anthony Braxton, Uri Caine, John Cale, Steve Coleman, Joe Jackson, Dave Liebman, Graham Nash, Greg Osby, Steve Reich, Marcus Roberts, Wayne Shorter and Cassandra Wilson. Reynolds has recorded for Nonesuch, CRI, and Atlantic Records and can also be heard on Tan Dun's soundtrack for the film Fallen, starring Denzel Washington. On Broadway, he originated the role of "The Fiddler", playing and dancing on stage in the Tony Award-winning revival of Irving Berlin's Annie, Get Your Gun, starring Bernadette Peters and Reba McEntire. Currently he tours as part of the Mahavishnu Project, a five-piece jazz-fusion band which centers around the music of John McLaughlin's Mahavishnu Orchestra, performs often with The Betty Buckley Band, alongside Kenny Werner, Billy, Tony Marino, Jamey Haddad, and, of course, Ms. Buckley herself. For further information, and to arrange interviews please contact Christopher McIntyre at 917.676.4585, cmacartserv@mindspring.com, or visit: www.toddreynolds.com Christopher McIntyre C Mac Artist Services 917.676.4585 contact 212.725.5940 office/fax cmacartserv@mindspring.com --------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 17:26:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09064; Tue, 7 May 2002 17:25:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:25:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD8453B.1D417AE1@friendlyspider.com> Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 16:21:08 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: looping a cassette (was- basic loops) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4R9nYC.A.c-B.9SE28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I presume we are talking about the answering machine message cassette tapes ? They have a foil strip at the splice point which triggers the winders to stop at the "head" of the tape. One possible way to bypass this (if you are surgically inclined) is to cut out the foil section and reconnect the two ends by butting them up to each other (not overlapping) and putting a piece of splice tape on the back side. If you don't have professional splicing tape, then use regular 3M or whatever, but just make sure that there are no rough edges exposed. -- gary @friendlyspider.com Richard Zvonar wrote: > At 1:34 PM -0700 5/7/02, angelo valadon wrote: > >i want to loop a normal audio cassette tape, but i can't figure out > >how to provide the necessary tension/friction to make the tape spin. > >once detached from the wheel the wheels of course just turn without > >moving the tape. > > Loop cassettes are available in various lengths. These will work in > any cassette deck, with the proviso that they are "single sided" - > that is the cassette is constructed to run in one direction only and > you can't flip it over or rewind it. > > In my experience with loop cassettes I've found that there is > invariably a dropout at the punch in/out point. Perhaps someone else > has developed some techniques to circumvent this? > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://RZCybernetics.com > http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 17:42:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11230; Tue, 7 May 2002 17:40:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:40:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: mahijiru.compact.dhs.org: www-data set sender to erwill@suitandtieguy.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: vortex rotary encoder screwy Message-ID: <1020807596.3cd849ac9abd7@www.suitandtieguy.com> Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 17:39:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Williamson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 216.166.195.91 Resent-Message-ID: <5iE7ED.A.huC.zmE28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the Preset encoder on my vortex is acting screwy ... presets 1,2,3,4, and 8 are unusable (replaced with 15 and 16). does this happen alot? Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 17:48:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12103; Tue, 7 May 2002 17:47:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:47:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008501c1f610$a80cb800$0801a8c0@vz.dsl.genuity.net> From: "Clifford Novey" To: References: <1020807596.3cd849ac9abd7@www.suitandtieguy.com> Subject: Re: vortex rotary encoder screwy Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 14:46:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have had 2 encoders go bad on my Vortex- c ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Williamson" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:39 PM Subject: vortex rotary encoder screwy > the Preset encoder on my vortex is acting screwy ... presets 1,2,3,4, and 8 are > unusable (replaced with 15 and 16). > > does this happen alot? > > Eric Williamson > www.suitandtieguy.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 18:04:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14591; Tue, 7 May 2002 18:03:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:03:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 14:54:32 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: basic loops In-reply-to: <004501c1f60a$f31c2b60$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: skincage , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <004501c1f60a$f31c2b60$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 5:05 PM -0400 5/7/02, skincage wrote: >my guess is that the dropout is from the little metal strip on the >splice which in the original context of the tape would trigger the >answering machine to stop playing the outgoing message. you could >probably de-splice, pull it off, and resplice with some tape to >create a more seamless loop. That's what I used to think, but I believe you get a punch in/out dropout in any case. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 18:04:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14592; Tue, 7 May 2002 18:03:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:03:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 14:56:01 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: basic loops In-reply-to: <004f01c1f60b$46f32ea0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: skincage , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <004f01c1f60b$46f32ea0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 5:08 PM -0400 5/7/02, skincage wrote: >you'll also find splicing tape and a splicing block there. if you're >*really* lucky they'll be clearing them out for like 50 cents apiece. I never saw a cassette splicing block. I always have had to make do with a regular block and a steady hand. Ever had to splice at DAT tape? -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 18:14:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15954; Tue, 7 May 2002 18:13:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:13:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: zvonar@pop.pan.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:11:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, emusic@candiru.com From: Brenda Hutchinson (by way of Richard Zvonar) Subject: Grand Buddah Marching Band Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello Everyone! If you have received this invitation, it is because you are either already involved in the big celebration for Pauline Oliveros' 70th birthday or you might want to be. This will be a very fun event and the final celebration of the weekend long festivities honoring Pauline Oliveros on the occasion of her 70th birthday. For a description of the events and times and locations of the performances check out: http://www.pofba.org/Retrospective/ *********************** THIS INVITATION *********************** Everyone is invited to come to a pot luck picnic and to participate in a performance of the GRAND BUDDAH MARCHING BAND by Pauline Oliveros. For detailed instructions about the piece itself, please refer to the *GRAND BUDDAH SCORE.PO* which is attached to this email [Actually it wasn't attached, so e-mail Brenda if you want it - RZ]. Most things in the invitation are explained in the *SCORE*. However, if you have any questions, please ask. In the meantime, some specifics: DATE: Sunday, June 2 TIME: 1:00 to 5:00 WHERE: Dolores Park located between 18th and 20th Streets and between Dolores and Church in San Francisco WHAT TO BRING: yourself, your friends and family and something to eat- to share or not. WHAT TO DO: We will begin by gathering in the park at 1:00. Eat and meet. At 2:30 PM we will take our positions around the *SPIRAL* (see score). At a *SIGNAL* (score) from the *DRUM MAJOR* (score), we will begin. When the march is finished, we will decorate and eat a large BIRTHDAY CAKE and continue to celebrate in what will hopefully be a lovely, sunny afternoon. ***************** PLEASE PASS THIS INVITATION ALONG ***************** So, please come. Regular updates will follow this initial invitation. For instance: What does the DRUM MAJOR look like? For those of you who know Tom Bickley, this is no problem. (Thank you Tom!) What will he be wearing? A question of interest to all concerned. What is the *SIGNAL* for beginning the march? Etc. etc. SO please ask questions about the score or the event or anything else that needs clarifying. I would like everyone to feel comfortable and have a sense that they know what is happening that day at any given time. It would also be nice to be able to explain what is happening to anyone walking by and to invite him or her to join in the celebration. If you are not interested in hearing anymore about this, please let me know, and I will not send any more mail to you. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 19:12:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA23299; Tue, 7 May 2002 19:11:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:11:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: alex@postal.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <004501c1f60a$f31c2b60$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:10:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, skincage From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: basic loops Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 2:54 PM -0700 5/7/02, Richard Zvonar wrote: >At 5:05 PM -0400 5/7/02, skincage wrote: >>my guess is that the dropout is from the little metal strip on the >>splice which in the original context of the tape would trigger the >>answering machine to stop playing the outgoing message. you could >>probably de-splice, pull it off, and resplice with some tape to >>create a more seamless loop. > >That's what I used to think, but I believe you get a punch in/out >dropout in any case. >-- Another source of dropout is the distance between the record/play head and the erase head. Fancy ATR's have timing circuits to facilitate seamless punches, but I doubt any cassette decks ever bothered. In fact, some cassette decks don't even have erase heads, just little magnets on a lever. -Alex S. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 19:16:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA23998; Tue, 7 May 2002 19:15:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:15:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.91] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vortex rotary encoder screwy Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 16:14:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 23:14:17.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9606390:01C1F61C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've also had an intermittent problem with my Vortex where it will begin to just rapidly switch to random presets on its own. Is this also a rotary encoder problem? If it is, is this an easy enough problem to fix? -p Sorry if this has been brought up before. I didn't have time to check the archive and I figured "hey, someone else brought a similiar problem up first..." >From: "Clifford Novey" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: vortex rotary encoder screwy >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 14:46:31 -0700 > >I have had 2 encoders go bad on my Vortex- >c > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Eric Williamson" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:39 PM >Subject: vortex rotary encoder screwy > > > > the Preset encoder on my vortex is acting screwy ... presets 1,2,3,4, >and >8 are > > unusable (replaced with 15 and 16). > > > > does this happen alot? > > > > Eric Williamson > > www.suitandtieguy.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 19:22:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24918; Tue, 7 May 2002 19:21:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:21:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020507232033.66430.qmail@web21306.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:20:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: basic loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Richard Zvonar wrote: > I never saw a cassette splicing block. I'm pretty sure I've seen a cassette splicing block, a looong time ago. I've never had the pleasure of working with one though. > Ever had to splice at DAT tape? Yeah. What a pain. I didn't trust the splice to actually play over the heads, just used it to get the tape back together enough to copy off the material beyond the point it was mangled by a malfunctioning machine. I figured the tape I used to splice it would create a very nice gummy mess on the heads... Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 20:18:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA30641; Tue, 7 May 2002 20:17:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:17:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: alex@postal.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <004f01c1f60b$46f32ea0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:15:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, skincage From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: basic loops Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > >>you'll also find splicing tape and a splicing block there. if >>you're *really* lucky they'll be clearing them out for like 50 >>cents apiece. > >I never saw a cassette splicing block. I always have had to make do >with a regular block and a steady hand. Ever had to splice at DAT >tape? >-- Yeah, in desperation I once spliced a DAT with scotch tape and a knife, a few hours before the tape was needed for playback in a live performance. But my splicing heroics award vote goes to my friend who made a four-second crossfade between songs on an analog LP master tape. At 15ips. That's a five-foot diagonal cut across a 1/4" tape width. This was back in the pre automated-mixing, pre-lossless-copying days, when the mix tape was a unique record of a performance at the console. He spent all night doing this one splice. I forget which record it was, but I'm pretty sure it's something you've all heard. The stereo wipe effect during the fade was a cool bonus. -Alex S. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 20:31:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31655; Tue, 7 May 2002 20:30:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:30:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:14:27 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: vortex rotary encoder screwy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I had the same problem with my JamMan and it proved to be a nightmare to fix. Bob Sellon (bless his soul) has to build a rom to bypass the rotary control. Luckily, I got him interested in adding some delay capabilities, so I should get a better instrument out of it. -- Visit "Before the Fall -- Images of the World Trade Center" at http://www.foryourhead.com "There were so many things there that are not anywhere else in the world. There were millions of people, the strange reflective bars of the buildings and the shiny and shimmering towers that seemed like a fairy tale" -- David-Michael Cook Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 20:46:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA32723; Tue, 7 May 2002 20:45:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:45:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 20:43:37 -0400 From: skincage Subject: Re: basic loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <00be01c1f629$6484c780$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <004f01c1f60b$46f32ea0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i think there's a little "brass" one at radio shack with slots for 1/4 and 1/8 inch tape. for whatever reason, the splicing tape they sell is 1/2 inch. who knows? i guess they figure since maybe .05 of the population has even seen a reel to reel at this point they don't need to bother. they do still have blank reel tape though, so hm. jon ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Zvonar To: skincage ; Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:56 PM Subject: Re: basic loops > At 5:08 PM -0400 5/7/02, skincage wrote: > >you'll also find splicing tape and a splicing block there. if you're > >*really* lucky they'll be clearing them out for like 50 cents apiece. > > I never saw a cassette splicing block. I always have had to make do > with a regular block and a steady hand. Ever had to splice at DAT > tape? > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://RZCybernetics.com > http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 20:48:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00643; Tue, 7 May 2002 20:47:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:47:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Om_Audio" To: Subject: RE: vortex rotary encoder screwy Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:46:51 -0700 Message-ID: <006101c1f629$d7dc0fe0$6401a8c0@we.client2.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On the flip side of that experience, the last Vortex encoder I replaced was a pretty simple job- and only cost about $15 to get the part from Lexicon. C -----Original Message----- From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:14 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vortex rotary encoder screwy I had the same problem with my JamMan and it proved to be a nightmare to fix. Bob Sellon (bless his soul) has to build a rom to bypass the rotary control. Luckily, I got him interested in adding some delay capabilities, so I should get a better instrument out of it. -- Visit "Before the Fall -- Images of the World Trade Center" at http://www.foryourhead.com "There were so many things there that are not anywhere else in the world. There were millions of people, the strange reflective bars of the buildings and the shiny and shimmering towers that seemed like a fairy tale" -- David-Michael Cook Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 20:59:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01317; Tue, 7 May 2002 20:58:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:58:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 20:56:07 -0400 From: skincage Subject: Re: vortex rotary encoder screwy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <00f701c1f62b$23660640$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <006101c1f629$d7dc0fe0$6401a8c0@we.client2.attbi.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com anyone have an idea of how hard this kind of thing would be to do with repeater? gravity ate my tempo knob. thanks! Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: Om_Audio To: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: RE: vortex rotary encoder screwy > On the flip side of that experience, the last Vortex encoder I replaced > was a pretty simple job- and only cost about $15 to get the part from > Lexicon. > > C From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 7 22:08:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07130; Tue, 7 May 2002 22:07:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:07:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009001c1f634$aa31b080$9b0dfea9@dbaldwin> From: "Douglas Baldwin" To: References: Subject: Re: OT: Phaser recommend Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:01:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I been real b-z, haven't had a chance to voice my dual lincolns on th phaser issue. But yes, the Big Briar Phaser is wickedly good and stupidly versatile - input jacks for every knob on the dang thing, so's you can sweep it with a pedal, or trigger inputs, or any waveform generator that's compatable. The mind boggles. But I must also crow about the excellent phaser in the Boss GT-3 and GT-6 multi-fx pedals. Time goes up to 16 seconds for a cycle (maybe more, like 30! Okay, it's not 60, but...) and the GT-6 has MIDI clock in, so you can sweep to the beat. Also, it has the way cool "step phaser" setting, where it moves stepwise instead of in a smooth sine or triangle wave. AND it has the over-the-top "random step" pattern, where it just leaps about from resonance to resonance, kinda like Zappa's "Ship Ahoy" solo. The GT-3 has an "internal wave" (Sine, Triangle, or Saw) which can vary any parameter you choose, so you can drive that phaser with a saw if you wish. Along with all the other features in the GT pedals (including a VERY versatile delay which can do infinite looping which you can either play over or add to) they are a steal! One GT-6 will run you just over what one Big Briar goes for. Food for thought. Douglas Baldwin, Coyote-in-Residence dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us > I hear that the Big Briar Phaser whoops a llama's ass, but I haven't > personally tried it. > > http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/spec/103.html?L+scstore+g gwp2101ff5c9c5c+1041770651 > > > >From: "Reid, Benjamin" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > > > >Subject: OT: Phaser recommend > >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:33:20 -0400 > > > >Sorry for OT post but this is a good group to query. Wondering if people > >have a recommend on a dedicated commercial or kit phaser. I am looking for > >one that is already very versitile or can be modded to produce a very long > >phase period (up to 60 seconds). Additionally, a sawtooth waveform would be > >super-cool as well. Most of the commercial pedals I have seen are not > >extreme enough for my purposes; some kits I have found online look > >promising; I have not investigated rackmount units yet. > > > >Any suggestions are appreciated!! > > > >Thanks, > > > >Ben > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 8 01:38:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA24819; Wed, 8 May 2002 01:37:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 01:37:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020508053625.90905.qmail@web21201.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:36:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradley Fish Subject: EDP Next Loop Confusion To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1930994662-1020836185=:90835" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --0-1930994662-1020836185=:90835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi fellow EDP'ers!!! Something that used to work on my EDP isn't happening anymore - My function is no longer working. Any suggestions??? Ok...I am using the loop 3 software, with my drum brain synced with MIDI to the EDP. 1)I turn on the EDP unit with a long press of the button. 2) I set to 3 3) I set to CYC 4) I set to OFF 5) I press , play a riff, press again 6) The drum brain kicks in on time without complaining, asking for beer, or hitting on my girlfriend, and and my riff repeats nicely. 7) I press and nothing changes, I try again over and over - I stay on loop 1!!! Any Idea where I may be going wrong?? I used to get to change into loops 2 and 3 with no problem. Thanks!!!!! Bradley Fish --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness --0-1930994662-1020836185=:90835 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 
Hi fellow EDP'ers!!!

Something that used to work on my EDP isn't happening anymore - My <next loop> function is no longer working. Any suggestions??? 

Ok...I am using the loop 3 software, with my drum brain synced with MIDI to the EDP.

1)I turn on the EDP unit with a long press of the <paramater> button.

2) I set <more loops> to 3

3) I set <switch quant> to CYC

4) I set <loop copy> to OFF

5) I press <record>,  play a riff, press <record> again 

6) The drum brain kicks in on time without complaining, asking for beer, or hitting on my girlfriend, and and my riff repeats nicely.  

7) I press <next loop> and nothing changes, I try again over and over - I stay on loop 1!!! 

Any Idea where I may be going wrong?? I used to get to change into loops 2 and 3 with no problem. 

Thanks!!!!!

Bradley Fish


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Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness --0-1930994662-1020836185=:90835-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 8 01:52:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25456; Wed, 8 May 2002 01:51:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 01:51:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c1f653$f0597ec0$4907893e@fastun> From: "Gareth Whittock" To: References: <78.263014cd.2a06d1c3@aol.com> Subject: Re: Handsonic - Thanks. Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 09:51:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <05YhYC.A.TNG.-yL28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yea, I'm about to try one out but wanted to benefit from the combined experience of this group. Thanks for all the comments guys! I'll et you know how I get on. Gareth > > Hi Gareth, > can't you try one of these at that big music shop in Cardiff? > (Crane's isn't it). > I had a go on one, my feeling was that it was > a very nice interface to play. > ..and the djembe was excellent. > > but a most of the sounds were a bit lame, > and wouldn't make the music for their relevant country. > (Roland think a gamelan orchestra has a vibraphone in it). > > Watch out for the prerecorded loops, as these have sounds > that you can't play individually. > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 8 07:33:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16020; Wed, 8 May 2002 07:32:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 07:32:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: new to list From: Jeffrey Lomas To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.4.99 Date: 08 May 2002 03:28:39 -0400 Message-Id: <1020842920.23616.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, all. Is this list archived somewhere? If so, could someone send me the URL? Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 8 07:49:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16800; Wed, 8 May 2002 07:43:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 07:43:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020508114302.81431.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 04:43:02 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: new to list To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1020842920.23616.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jeff, http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive --- Jeffrey Lomas wrote: > Hi, all. > Is this list archived somewhere? If so, could > someone send me the URL? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 8 14:52:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17782; Wed, 8 May 2002 14:50:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 14:50:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <108801c1f6bf$31b95320$7502a8c0@digex.net> From: "Vance Gloster" To: References: <20020508053625.90905.qmail@web21201.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: EDP Next Loop Confusion Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 11:35:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1085_01C1F684.8353AEA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1085_01C1F684.8353AEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bradley, Try this. Set AutoRecord to ON. Now, when you say NextLoop it does not = go to the empty loop because the loop has not been recorded yet. But if = you have AutoRecord ON and the other settings as described, if the next = loop is empty it will go into record at the end of the current loop. = You can get an electronic copy of the EDP manual at the Loopers Delight = site at: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/Echoplex_Manual.pdf Good luck! I am having a different problem with my EDP. I have LoopCopy OFF, = AutoRecord ON and SwitchQuant CYC. I record loop #1. Then I press = NextLoop and record loop #2, but I fluff it. In order to recover I do a = long press on Record, which clears loop #2. But when I record loop #2 = again there is a gap of silence at the end. I think what is going on is = that the length of loop #2 is not getting erased, and I am playing = slightly faster the second time I record. When I end the recording it = is not ending the loop at that point, but instead at the original later = end point. If I do a long press on Record followed by a long press on = Multiply (which clears all loops) I do not have this problem, but I lose = loop #1. Is this ringing any bells for anyone? -Vance ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bradley Fish=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: EDP Next Loop Confusion Hi fellow EDP'ers!!!=20 Something that used to work on my EDP isn't happening anymore - My = function is no longer working. Any suggestions??? =20 Ok...I am using the loop 3 software, with my drum brain synced with = MIDI to the EDP.=20 1)I turn on the EDP unit with a long press of the button.=20 2) I set to 3=20 3) I set to CYC=20 4) I set to OFF=20 5) I press , play a riff, press again =20 6) The drum brain kicks in on time without complaining, asking for = beer, or hitting on my girlfriend, and and my riff repeats nicely. =20 7) I press and nothing changes, I try again over and over = - I stay on loop 1!!! =20 Any Idea where I may be going wrong?? I used to get to change into = loops 2 and 3 with no problem. =20 Thanks!!!!!=20 Bradley Fish -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness ------=_NextPart_000_1085_01C1F684.8353AEA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Bradley,
 
Try this.  Set AutoRecord to = ON.  Now,=20 when you say NextLoop it does not go to the empty loop because the loop = has not=20 been recorded yet.  But if you have AutoRecord ON and the other = settings as=20 described, if the next loop is empty it will go into record at the end = of the=20 current loop.  You can get an electronic copy of the EDP manual at = the=20 Loopers Delight site at:
 
http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/Echoplex_Manual.pdf
 
Good luck!
 
I am having a different problem with my = EDP. =20 I have LoopCopy OFF, AutoRecord ON and SwitchQuant = CYC.  I record=20 loop #1.  Then I press NextLoop and record loop #2, but I = fluff=20 it.  In order to recover I do a long press on Record, which clears = loop=20 #2.  But when I record loop #2 again there is a gap of silence at = the=20 end.  I think what is going on is that the length of loop #2 is not = getting=20 erased, and I am playing slightly faster the second time I record.  = When I=20 end the recording it is not ending the loop at that point, but instead = at the=20 original later end point.  If I do a long press on Record followed = by a=20 long press on Multiply (which clears all loops) I do not have this = problem, but=20 I lose loop #1.  Is this ringing any bells for anyone?
 
-Vance
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bradley Fish
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 = 10:36=20 PM
Subject: EDP Next Loop = Confusion


Hi fellow EDP'ers!!!=20

Something that used to work on my EDP isn't happening anymore - My = <next=20 loop> function is no longer working. Any suggestions??? =20

Ok...I am using the loop 3 software, with my drum brain synced = with=20 MIDI to the EDP.=20

1)I turn on the EDP unit with a long press of the <paramater> = button.=20

2) I set <more loops> to 3=20

3) I set <switch quant> to CYC=20

4) I set <loop copy> to OFF=20

5) I press <record>,  play a riff, press <record>=20 again =20

6) The drum brain kicks in on time without = complaining,=20 asking for beer, or hitting on my girlfriend, and and my = riff=20 repeats nicely.  =20

7) I press <next loop> and nothing changes, I try again over = and=20 over - I stay on loop 1!!! =20

Any Idea where I may be going wrong?? I used to get to change into = loops 2=20 and 3 with no problem. =20

Thanks!!!!!=20

Bradley Fish


Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! = Health=20 - your guide to health and wellness ------=_NextPart_000_1085_01C1F684.8353AEA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 8 16:16:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24526; Wed, 8 May 2002 16:10:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 16:10:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CD9863E.B3E72C1E@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 13:15:39 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: WAY OT: digital transfers from 78's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just a query to any LA list members who know of a local facility that is able to make cd's from old vinyl- 78's, to be exact. please respond off-list, if you prefer... thanks in advance! lance g. baumhaus@earthlink.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 8 23:03:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17791; Wed, 8 May 2002 22:57:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 22:57:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020509025630.9423.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 19:56:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Richards Subject: Re: Zappa To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200205030820.EAA31223@hemlock.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com <> Actually, the background does evolve throughout the piece. Though that ostinato runs through the entire piece, the way it is orchestrated changes, you hear different percussion instruments come in and out. It starts off with just a guitar playing the ostinato, but it's later doubled by an electric sitar, and so on. ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris "What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?"-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 02:09:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29452; Thu, 9 May 2002 02:08:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 02:08:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c1f71f$0871b100$922e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <3CD9863E.B3E72C1E@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: WAY OT: digital transfers from 78's Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 08:01:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Lance. Don't Know there in L.A. but here I found a good Numark vinyl player (the TTX model, I think) that has the capacity to play 33 1/3, 45 and 78, even in reverse mode, and has line and digital outs. I just ordered one for my studio. Probably you could find one for rent and do the work yourself. It is even cheaper than the ubiquitous Technics 1210 (way cheaper here in Italy). Peace Luigi ----- Original Message ----- From: "lance glover" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:15 PM Subject: WAY OT: digital transfers from 78's > just a query to any LA list members who know of a local facility that is > able to make cd's from old vinyl- 78's, to be exact. > > please respond off-list, if you prefer... > > thanks in advance! > > lance g. > baumhaus@earthlink.net > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 02:20:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30231; Thu, 9 May 2002 02:20:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 02:20:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001601c1f71f$7f504b60$d02e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Subject: Re: WAY OT: digital transfers from 78's Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 08:05:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C1F730.427D8DE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Messaggio in formato MIME composto da piů parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C1F730.427D8DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lance. Don't Know there in L.A. but here I found a good Numark vinyl player (the TTX model, I think) that has the capacity to play 33 1/3, 45 = and 78, even in reverse mode, and has line and digital outs. I just ordered = one for my studio. Probably you could find one for rent and do the work yourself. It is even cheaper than the ubiquitous Technics 1210 (way = cheaper here in Italy). Peace Luigi ----- Original Message ----- From: "lance glover" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:15 PM Subject: WAY OT: digital transfers from 78's > just a query to any LA list members who know of a local facility that = is > able to make cd's from old vinyl- 78's, to be exact. > > please respond off-list, if you prefer... > > thanks in advance! > > lance g. > baumhaus@earthlink.net > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C1F730.427D8DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Lance. Don't=20 Know there in L.A. but here I found a good Numark vinyl
player (the = TTX=20 model, I think) that has the capacity to play 33 1/3, 45 and
78, even = in=20 reverse mode, and has line and digital outs. I just ordered one
for = my=20 studio. Probably you could find one for rent and do the = work
yourself. It is=20 even cheaper than the ubiquitous Technics 1210 (way cheaper
here in=20 Italy).

Peace
Luigi
----- Original Message -----
From: = "lance=20 glover" <baumhaus@earthlink.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 = 10:15=20 PM
Subject: WAY OT: digital transfers from 78's


> just = a query=20 to any LA list members who know of a local facility that is
> able = to make=20 cd's from old vinyl- 78's, to be exact.
>
> please respond = off-list,=20 if you prefer...
>
> thanks in advance!
>
> = lance=20 g.
> baumhaus@earthlink.net
>
>
>
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C1F730.427D8DE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 04:22:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA04767; Thu, 9 May 2002 04:19:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 04:19:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Rebirth question Reply-To: A.Willers@t-online.de From: A.Willers@t-online.de (A.Willers) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:19:31 +0000 X-Mailer: Musashi 3.2.3-es Message-ID: <175j8T-2G7W88C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 520012547034-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, can anybody help me out with the system requirements (Mac) for Rebirth? Mine's an old 68k (Quadra 840).... Thanks, Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 04:36:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA05513; Thu, 9 May 2002 04:34:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 04:34:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 04:33:03 EDT Subject: Re: basic loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: <-3ox8B.A.uVB.hRj28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > i think there's a little "brass" one at radio shack with slots for 1/4 and 1/ > 8 inch tape. for > whatever reason, the splicing tape they sell is 1/2 inch. who knows? i guess > they figure In UK there's a chain off retail outlets called Tandy. I think they're very closely related to Radio Shack in the US. I refer to them as "Tandy, where nothing works". Anyway, many years ago bought an editing block there for 1/8 in and 1/4 in. An extruded aluminium item. the 1/4 in. slot was too thick by about 1/32 of an inch causing bad edits, before I took it back to Tandy to be told point blank that it was fully functional and I couldn't have a refund. ...so beware cheap edit blocks (although some are fine) Cassette editing doesn't work well at all (from experience) you always get a dropout on the edit due to the stiffness of the splicing tape, which reduces the tape head contact. I'd suggest a 90 degree edit angle, and as little splice tape as possible. Home made short cassette loops do actually work, but if you try to record on to them there's always a dropout due to the distance between the record and erase heads. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 10:05:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25466; Thu, 9 May 2002 10:04:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:04:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 07:00:08 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: basic loops In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 4:33 AM -0400 5/9/02, SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: >Home made short cassette loops do actually work, but if you try to >record on to them there's always a dropout due to the distance >between the record and erase heads. This may not apply to Portastudio decks, since they're designed to allow punching in and out. I haven't tried this myself, though. It's possible to defeat the erase head. This might eliminate the dropout but will replace it with a "drop-in" as new material is recorded over the old without erasure. I might be an interesting effect, though (if you're into an analog glitch aesthetic). -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 10:25:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26464; Thu, 9 May 2002 10:24:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:24:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020509142354.42145.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 07:23:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: basic loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <7m435D.A.6cG.7Zo28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 4:33 AM -0400 5/9/02, SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: >Home made short cassette loops do actually work, but if you try to >record on to them there's always a dropout due to the distance >between the record and erase heads. I wonder if you could make a spacer to push the tape away from the erase head so that it's effect was diminished (not eliminated completely) to make a loop that gradually fades over time? Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 10:46:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28380; Thu, 9 May 2002 10:45:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:45:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Robin.Bussell@axa-sunlife.co.uk X-Lotus-FromDomain: AXA SUN LIFE@SUNLIFE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <80256BB4.004FF687.00@10.7.40.1> Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 15:14:31 +0100 Subject: Re: basic loops Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I wonder if you could make a spacer to push the tape away from the >erase head .. or if you're not too worried about the erase head, try putting some layers of adhesive tape over the erase head itself (or card taped on or similar) for precision control of fade time... I've never tried it but it sounds plausable :-) Cheers, Robin. ==================================================================== The contents and any attachments of this electronic mail message are confidential and intended only for the named addressees. Dissemination, forwarding, publication or other use of the message or attachments by any unauthorised person is strictly prohibited. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions expressed in this message are personal and may not be attributed to AXA Sun Life or any member of the AXA Group of Companies. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. AXA Group does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 10:47:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28499; Thu, 9 May 2002 10:46:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:46:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c1f768$4240ffa0$0201a8c0@eluk> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <20020509142354.42145.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: basic loops Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 15:46:08 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Remembering back 20 years or so, I remember that one of the problems with tape splicing was the static charge on the blade used or something, such that a pop would occur at the splice-point. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg House" To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 15:23 PM Subject: Re: basic loops > At 4:33 AM -0400 5/9/02, SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > > >Home made short cassette loops do actually work, but if you try to > >record on to them there's always a dropout due to the distance > >between the record and erase heads. > > I wonder if you could make a spacer to push the tape away from the > erase head so that it's effect was diminished (not eliminated > completely) to make a loop that gradually fades over time? > > Greg > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 10:59:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29486; Thu, 9 May 2002 10:58:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:58:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 07:57:07 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: basic loops In-reply-to: <000701c1f768$4240ffa0$0201a8c0@eluk> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <20020509142354.42145.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> <000701c1f768$4240ffa0$0201a8c0@eluk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 3:46 PM +0100 5/9/02, Stephen P. Goodman wrote: >Remembering back 20 years or so, I remember that one of the problems with >tape splicing was the static charge on the blade used or something, such >that a pop would occur at the splice-point. I suspect that may have been magnetization of the blade. You can degauss the blade or just use a new one. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 11:43:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA32605; Thu, 9 May 2002 11:41:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:41:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:42:54 -0400 To: Ambient List From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance Cambridge, MA 5.11.02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi folks, As some of you may not have heard, the Zeitgeist Gallery has been put out of action by a fire. 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We plan to present our entire >schedual as closely as possible...Why not come up to our inaugural >show and dig some great new sounds? > >Suggested: a mere $10 or b/o >Central Square Redline T >All Ages > for updates > >info: 617.876.0860 > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- Visit "Before the Fall -- Images of the World Trade Center" at http://www.foryourhead.com "There were so many things there that are not anywhere else in the world. There were millions of people, the strange reflective bars of the buildings and the shiny and shimmering towers that seemed like a fairy tale" -- David-Michael Cook Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 13:34:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08766; Thu, 9 May 2002 13:33:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 13:33:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020509173257.61275.qmail@web21208.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:32:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradley Fish Subject: Re: EDP Next Loop -- Messed up??? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <108801c1f6bf$31b95320$7502a8c0@digex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1507281787-1020965577=:58146" Resent-Message-ID: <_XqrpC.A.kHC.LLr28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --0-1507281787-1020965577=:58146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I tried all 3 settings (Send, OFF, "t i") for but My EDP will no longer switch loops!!! It used to work fine. It's a 4 month old unit but I'm afraid its subtly broken somehow. Kim? Matthias? Is there something I'm missing or should I send this baby in for warrantee? Thanks!!! BF Vance Gloster wrote: Hi Bradley, Try this. Set AutoRecord to ON. Now, when you say NextLoop it does not go to the empty loop because the loop has not been recorded yet. But if you have AutoRecord ON and the other settings as described, if the next loop is empty it will go into record at the end of the current loop. You can get an electronic copy of the EDP manual at the Loopers Delight site at: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/Echoplex_Manual.pdf Good luck! I am having a different problem with my EDP. I have LoopCopy OFF, AutoRecord ON and SwitchQuant CYC. I record loop #1. Then I press NextLoop and record loop #2, but I fluff it. In order to recover I do a long press on Record, which clears loop #2. But when I record loop #2 again there is a gap of silence at the end. I think what is going on is that the length of loop #2 is not getting erased, and I am playing slightly faster the second time I record. When I end the recording it is not ending the loop at that point, but instead at the original later end point. If I do a long press on Record followed by a long press on Multiply (which clears all loops) I do not have this problem, but I lose loop #1. Is this ringing any bells for anyone? -Vance----- Original Message ----- From: Bradley Fish To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:36 PMSubject: EDP Next Loop Confusion Hi fellow EDP'ers!!! Something that used to work on my EDP isn't happening anymore - My function is no longer working. Any suggestions??? Ok...I am using the loop 3 software, with my drum brain synced with MIDI to the EDP. 1)I turn on the EDP unit with a long press of the button. 2) I set to 3 3) I set to CYC 4) I set to OFF 5) I press , play a riff, press again 6) The drum brain kicks in on time without complaining, asking for beer, or hitting on my girlfriend, and and my riff repeats nicely. 7) I press and nothing changes, I try again over and over - I stay on loop 1!!! Any Idea where I may be going wrong?? I used to get to change into loops 2 and 3 with no problem. Thanks!!!!! Bradley Fish --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! --0-1507281787-1020965577=:58146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hi,

I tried all 3 settings (Send, OFF, "t i") for <Autorecord> but My EDP will no longer switch loops!!! It used to work fine. It's a 4 month old unit but I'm afraid its subtly broken somehow.  Kim? Matthias? Is there something I'm missing or should I send this baby in for warrantee? 

Thanks!!!

BF

 

  Vance Gloster <vgloster@microvault.com> wrote:

Hi Bradley,
 
Try this.  Set AutoRecord to ON.  Now, when you say NextLoop it does not go to the empty loop because the loop has not been recorded yet.  But if you have AutoRecord ON and the other settings as described, if the next loop is empty it will go into record at the end of the current loop.  You can get an electronic copy of the EDP manual at the Loopers Delight site at:
 
 
Good luck!
 
I am having a different problem with my EDP.  I have LoopCopy OFF, AutoRecord ON and SwitchQuant CYC.  I record loop #1.  Then I press NextLoop and record loop #2, but I fluff it.  In order to recover I do a long press on Record, which clears loop #2.  But when I record loop #2 again there is a gap of silence at the end.  I think what is going on is that the length of loop #2 is not getting erased, and I am playing slightly faster the second time I record.  When I end the recording it is not ending the loop at that point, but instead at the original later end point.  If I do a long press on Record followed by a long press on Multiply (which clears all loops) I do not have this problem, but I lose loop #1.  Is this ringing any bells for anyone?
 
-Vance
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:36 PM
Subject: EDP Next Loop Confusion


Hi fellow EDP'ers!!!

Something that used to work on my EDP isn't happening anymore - My <next loop> function is no longer working. Any suggestions??? 

Ok...I am using the loop 3 software, with my drum brain synced with MIDI to the EDP.

1)I turn on the EDP unit with a long press of the <paramater> button.

2) I set <more loops> to 3

3) I set <switch quant> to CYC

4) I set <loop copy> to OFF

5) I press <record>,  play a riff, press <record> again 

6) The drum brain kicks in on time without complaining, asking for beer, or hitting on my girlfriend, and and my riff repeats nicely.  

7) I press <next loop> and nothing changes, I try again over and over - I stay on loop 1!!! 

Any Idea where I may be going wrong?? I used to get to change into loops 2 and 3 with no problem. 

Thanks!!!!!

Bradley Fish


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Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! --0-1507281787-1020965577=:58146-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 13:39:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09339; Thu, 9 May 2002 13:38:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 13:38:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CDAB3CD.FB35FC56@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 10:37:18 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Video Performance Cambridge, MA 5.11.02 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is it possible to relocate it to San Francisco? There sure does seem to be a lot of cool stuff that happens there that I miss. Mark "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" wrote: > Hi folks, > > As some of you may not have heard, the Zeitgeist Gallery has been put > out of action by a fire. Rob Chalfen has found an alternate location > for his subconsciouscafe, series, and I will be performing there on > Saturday. > > Much thanks to Rob and all the other good folks who put in so much > energy to give people like me a place to play! > > > > > > >ZEITGEIST IN EXILE PRESENTS: > > > >subconsciouscafe @ BOSTON DANCE CENTER > >550 Mass Ave, Central Sq., 3rd fl. > >Next to Dance Complex, > >Above BookMarx bookstore > > > >Saturday, 11 May '02 > > > > > >9:00 pm - > >FROM NYC: > >FREE RANGE RAT! > > > >JOHN CARLSON - trumpet > >ERIC HIPP - tenor > >GEORGE SCHULLER - drums & percussion > >SHAWN MCGLOIN - bass > > > >A real working band of seasoned EITHER/ORCHESTRA vets & other transplanted > >local terrors work out on SUN RA charts, originals, maybe some Ellington. > > > >Video improv by Dr. T > > > >Plus Special Guests > > > >After a desperate week of strife & angst subconsciouscafe has landed > >in a groovy space in Central Square. We plan to present our entire > >schedual as closely as possible...Why not come up to our inaugural > >show and dig some great new sounds? > > > >Suggested: a mere $10 or b/o > >Central Square Redline T > >All Ages > > for updates > > > >info: 617.876.0860 > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > -- > > Visit "Before the Fall -- Images of the World Trade Center" at > http://www.foryourhead.com > > "There were so many things there that are not anywhere else in the > world. There were millions of people, the strange reflective bars of > the buildings and the shiny and shimmering towers that seemed like a > fairy tale" -- David-Michael Cook > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 15:53:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18317; Thu, 9 May 2002 15:52:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 15:52:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 15:51:55 -0400 From: David Beardsley Subject: NYC - upcoming microtonal gtr shows To: "Looper's Delight Mailing List" , Ohmbient list Message-id: <021401c1f792$f913e100$03ce2444@union01.nj.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_w7QltiPYlgh1oi19gn6auw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <0gO7IB.A.XdE.QNt28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_w7QltiPYlgh1oi19gn6auw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Just back from the 2002 Los Angeles World Out Of Tune Festival... DAVID BEARDSLEY Microtonal Just Intonation guitar, fretless guitar, echoes, loops, drones and minimalism. Sunday, May 12, 2002 Undercity @ Halcyon, 227 Smith St, Brooklyn, NY, starts at 7:00 pm., free. 07: Hazmaat 08: Mercy_killaH 09: David Beardsley -- LIVE 10: Instruction Shuttle -- LIVE 11: Clark ov Saturn Saturday, May 18, 2002 Evening set at Three Jewels Buddhist bookstore/coffee shop on=20 211 East 5th Street, East Village, NYC. Time TBA. "Microtonal GOD" Downtown Music Gallery, NYC. "Phenomenal is one thought. Deep modern meditational tool is another."=20 Pat Pagano, dir. Southeast Just Intonation Society, Gainesville, Fl. http://biink.com * David Beardsley * http://biink.com * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley --Boundary_(ID_w7QltiPYlgh1oi19gn6auw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Just back from the  2002 Los Angeles World Out Of Tune Festival...

  DAVID BEARDSLEY

  Microtonal Just Intonation guitar, fretless guitar,
  echoes, loops, drones and minimalism.

Sunday, May 12, 2002
Undercity @ Halcyon, 227 Smith St, Brooklyn, NY, starts at 7:00 pm., free.

    07: Hazmaat
    08: Mercy_killaH
    09: David Beardsley -- LIVE
    10: Instruction Shuttle -- LIVE
    11: Clark ov Saturn

Saturday, May 18, 2002

  Evening set at Three Jewels Buddhist bookstore/coffee shop on=20
  211 East 5th Street, East Village, NYC. Time TBA.

"Microtonal GOD"
Downtown Music Gallery, NYC.

"Phenomenal is one thought. Deep modern meditational tool is another."=20
Pat Pagano, dir. Southeast Just Intonation Society, Gainesville, Fl.


http://biink.com

* David Beardsley
* http://biink.com
* http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley

--Boundary_(ID_w7QltiPYlgh1oi19gn6auw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 17:43:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25108; Thu, 9 May 2002 17:42:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 17:42:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:41:16 -0700 From: Greg Kucharo Subject: my edp is here! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <021401c1f792$f913e100$03ce2444@union01.nj.comcast.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.5.1 (Blindsider) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just arrived. God help me.. Now where do I get the Loop4 stuff.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 18:06:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27307; Thu, 9 May 2002 18:05:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 18:05:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d301c1f7a3$5fcec1c0$7502a8c0@digex.net> From: "Vance Gloster" To: References: Subject: Re: my edp is here! Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:49:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <7WdMvD.A.LqG.yJv28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Kucharo" > Just arrived. God help me.. > > Now where do I get the Loop4 stuff.... Nowhere yet. But any day now it should be available. Lots of us are waiting with bated breath. If we hold it a little longer it may end up smelling more like baited breath. In any case, we know the Loop guys are working hard to make it available ASAP. -Vance From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 18:46:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29494; Thu, 9 May 2002 18:45:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 18:45:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3CDAB3CD.FB35FC56@zerocrossing.net> References: <3CDAB3CD.FB35FC56@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 18:30:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Coast to Coast was Re: Video Performance Cambridge, MA 5.11.02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <72ok2B.A.SMH.evv28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:37 AM -0700 5/9/02, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >Is it possible to relocate it to San Francisco? There sure does seem to be a >lot of cool stuff that happens there that I miss. and I thought San Francisco was the king of the cool-:) Guess the grass is always greener on the other coast. I'm sure if someone could come up with plane fare, gear cartage and a reasonable performance fee, something could be arranged. Unfortunately, that seems unlikely -- its not like we make any money doing this in Boston-:) > >Mark > >"Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> As some of you may not have heard, the Zeitgeist Gallery has been put >> out of action by a fire. Rob Chalfen has found an alternate location >> for his subconsciouscafe, series, and I will be performing there on >> Saturday. >> >> Much thanks to Rob and all the other good folks who put in so much >> energy to give people like me a place to play! >> >> > >> > >> >ZEITGEIST IN EXILE PRESENTS: >> > >> >subconsciouscafe @ BOSTON DANCE CENTER >> >550 Mass Ave, Central Sq., 3rd fl. >> >Next to Dance Complex, >> >Above BookMarx bookstore >> > >> >Saturday, 11 May '02 >> > >> > >> >9:00 pm - >> >FROM NYC: >> >FREE RANGE RAT! >> > >> >JOHN CARLSON - trumpet >> >ERIC HIPP - tenor >> >GEORGE SCHULLER - drums & percussion >> >SHAWN MCGLOIN - bass >> > >> >A real working band of seasoned EITHER/ORCHESTRA vets & other transplanted >> >local terrors work out on SUN RA charts, originals, maybe some Ellington. >> > >> >Video improv by Dr. T >> > >> >Plus Special Guests >> > >> >After a desperate week of strife & angst subconsciouscafe has landed >> >in a groovy space in Central Square. We plan to present our entire >> >schedual as closely as possible...Why not come up to our inaugural >> >show and dig some great new sounds? >> > >> >Suggested: a mere $10 or b/o >> >Central Square Redline T >> >All Ages >> > for updates >> > >> >info: 617.876.0860 >> > >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com >> >> -- >> >> Visit "Before the Fall -- Images of the World Trade Center" at >> http://www.foryourhead.com >> >> "There were so many things there that are not anywhere else in the >> world. There were millions of people, the strange reflective bars of >> the buildings and the shiny and shimmering towers that seemed like a >> fairy tale" -- David-Michael Cook >> >> Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. >> Video Producer Image Processing Specialist >> Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com -- Visit "Before the Fall -- Images of the World Trade Center" at http://www.foryourhead.com "There were so many things there that are not anywhere else in the world. There were millions of people, the strange reflective bars of the buildings and the shiny and shimmering towers that seemed like a fairy tale" -- David-Michael Cook Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 20:54:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06489; Thu, 9 May 2002 20:53:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 20:53:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 20:50:00 -0400 From: skincage Subject: repeater/mofx/kaoss pad midi control To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <002101c1f7bc$9d99cfe0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com okay, sorry for the crosspost but i'm curious about something and thus must call about thee wise loop gurus. i'm honestly lost whenever i try to read midi implementation charts. is there any way for me to use either the mofx or kaoss pad to control pitch on the repeater? or, is there a way to control the mofx with the kaoss? i have a kaoss on the insert of my mofx, it'd be pretty neat if i could produce a weird symbiotic effect by controlling mofx with the kaoss. thanks! jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 21:13:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08684; Thu, 9 May 2002 21:11:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 21:11:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Fwd: fun for all the family To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 21:17:18 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_===1760141====dc-mxdb08.cluster1.charter.net===_" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part MIME message --_===1760141====dc-mxdb08.cluster1.charter.net===_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i do not know what to say. --_===1760141====dc-mxdb08.cluster1.charter.net===_ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from [208.234.0.16] (HELO magicicada.com) by mx05.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 10341261 for magicicada@charter.net; Thu, 09 May 2002 10:31:47 -0400 Received: from www.god-emil.dk (root@www.god-emil.dk [194.255.106.82]) by magicicada.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24415 for ; Thu, 9 May 2002 10:31:51 -0400 Received: (from list@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g49EQ3x23067; Thu, 9 May 2002 16:26:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from h3o-owner@www.god-emil.dk) X-Authentication-Warning: www.god-emil.dk: list set sender to h3o-owner@www.god-emil.dk using -f Received: from smtp.mmedia.is (smtp.mmedia.is [217.151.160.9]) by www.god-emil.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g49EQ2F23063 for ; Thu, 9 May 2002 16:26:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from h3o@veda.is) Received: from [10.0.5.5] (adsl167-19.as.mmedia.is [217.151.167.19]) by smtp.mmedia.is (8.11.6/1.0.0) with ESMTP id g49EQ0Q27769 for ; Thu, 9 May 2002 14:26:00 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:26:04 +0200 To: h3o-o3h@www.god-emil.dk From: h3o Subject: fun for all the family Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Reply-To: h3o-o3h@www.god-emil.dk Sender: h3o-owner@www.god-emil.dk Precedence: list I have been diagnosed with Hepatitis B, which at the present time of writing is incurable. the treatment I need is unobtainable without money. due to the machinations of the people I have worked for, who will not recognise the state I am in, I'm forced to accept this situation, and make alternative arrangements. the prognosis it 3 months from now. the end. how sad. never mind. in order to attempt provide a modicum of support to my three children, I am offering my extensive h3o archive for sale. any interested parties please email me as soon as as is convenient. in dulce jubilo /a ---------------------------------------------------------------------- if you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send mail to h3o-request@www.god-emil.dk with the word unsubscribe in the *body* of the message. --_===1760141====dc-mxdb08.cluster1.charter.net===_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 9 21:22:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09234; Thu, 9 May 2002 21:21:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 21:21:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 20:17:44 -0500 From: Richard Holland Subject: Re: Fwd: fun for all the family In-reply-to: X-Sender: rjholland@wiscmail.wisc.edu To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020509201738.02494d90@wiscmail.wisc.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com WTF? At 09:17 PM 5/9/02 -0400, you wrote: >i do not know what to say. > > >Return-path: >Received: from [208.234.0.16] (HELO magicicada.com) > by mx05.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) > with ESMTP id 10341261 for magicicada@charter.net; Thu, > 09 May 2002 10:31:47 -0400 >Received: from www.god-emil.dk (root@www.god-emil.dk [194.255.106.82]) > by magicicada.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24415 for > ; Thu, 09 May 2002 10:31:51 -0400 >Received: (from list@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) > id g49EQ3x23067; Thu, 09 May 2002 16:26:03 +0200 >Received: from smtp.mmedia.is (smtp.mmedia.is [217.151.160.9]) > by www.god-emil.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g49EQ2F23063 for > ; Thu, > 09 May 2002 16:26:02 +0200 (CEST envelope-from h3o@veda.is) >Received: from [10.0.5.5] (adsl167-19.as.mmedia.is [217.151.167.19]) > by smtp.mmedia.is (8.11.6/1.0.0) with ESMTP id g49EQ0Q27769 for > ; Thu, 09 May 2002 14:26:00 +0000 (GMT) >Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 14:26:04 +0200 >From: h3o >Subject: fun for all the family >Sender: h3o-owner@www.god-emil.dk >To: h3o-o3h@www.god-emil.dk >Reply-to: h3o-o3h@www.god-emil.dk >Message-id: >MIME-version: 1.0 >Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >Precedence: list >X-Authentication-warning: www.god-emil.dk: list set sender to > h3o-owner@www.god-emil.dk using -f > >I have been diagnosed with Hepatitis B, which at the present time of >writing is incurable. the treatment I need is unobtainable without money. >due to the machinations of the people I have worked for, who will not >recognise the state I am in, I'm forced to accept this situation, and make >alternative arrangements. the prognosis it 3 months from now. the end. how >sad. never mind. > >in order to attempt provide a modicum of support to my three children, I >am offering my extensive h3o archive for sale. any interested parties >please email me as soon as as is convenient. > >in dulce jubilo > >/a > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >if you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send mail to > > h3o-request@www.god-emil.dk > >with the word > > unsubscribe > >in the *body* of the message. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 00:28:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20937; Fri, 10 May 2002 00:23:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 00:23:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 00:22:46 -0400 Subject: Shrub Monkeys live at BWAC pier show 10, this Sunday 5/12 in Redhook, Brooklyn, NYC From: Paul Sullivan To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, it's true, lurking list members and loopers Paul Sullivan (guitars, boomerang, dl-4, echo plus, etc.) and David Weeks (saxophones, repeater, dl-4, etc.) together with percussionist Brad Wentworth, collectively known as Shrub Monkeys, will be playing at the Brooklyn Working Artists Coalition pier show opening weekend this Sunday, May 12, from 2 to 4 pm. The music is original ambient and jazz, with lots of improvisation and loopage. This is the 10th year of the BWAC pier show, where hundreds of local artists exhibit their work in a huge civil-war era warehouse on the waterfront in Red Hook, Brooklyn. Come early to check out the artwork as well as the scenic vistas from the promenade (with a birds-eye view of the Statue of Liberty), and stay for the music, food and drink, and general ambience. Admission is free. For directions and more info, go to or email me. Hope to see you there! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 01:21:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25570; Fri, 10 May 2002 01:15:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 01:15:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004b01c1f7af$2c08b470$07f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: re: fun for the whole family Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 00:13:45 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com no, seriously...what the hell is that all about?! not that i'm offended or anything...maybe i should be...nonetheless, i have no idea what that forward was about. perpetually confused, -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 01:42:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA26486; Fri, 10 May 2002 01:35:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 01:35:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Re: fun for the whole family To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 01:36:29 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004b01c1f7af$2c08b470$07f8c440@g0wn7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i am sorry.i should explain. it is a letter that andrew mckenzie posted today concerning his health. he is the founding member of hafler trio. which in turn is a group who has had a huge effect on many electronic types of this era. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 05:20:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA06237; Fri, 10 May 2002 05:17:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:17:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <129.111f490b.2a0ce9e6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:16:22 EDT Subject: Re: basic loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > >Home made short cassette loops do actually work, but if you try to > >record on to them there's always a dropout due to the distance > >between the record and erase heads. > > This may not apply to Portastudio decks, since they're designed to > allow punching in and out. I haven't tried this myself, though. Not the ones I've seen, they still have the erase head in the same place. ...but if they run at double speed (most do) the problem is halved. > > It's possible to defeat the erase head. This might eliminate the > dropout but will replace it with a "drop-in" as new material is > recorded over the old without erasure. I might be an interesting > effect, though (if you're into an analog glitch aesthetic). > -- Yes, I've heard of that being made to work for reel to reels. (and for the Roland Space Echo) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 05:23:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA06534; Fri, 10 May 2002 05:20:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:20:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <1ba.b19719.2a0ceaa6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:19:34 EDT Subject: Re: basic loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > >Home made short cassette loops do actually work, but if you try to > >record on to them there's always a dropout due to the distance > >between the record and erase heads. > > I wonder if you could make a spacer to push the tape away from the > erase head so that it's effect was diminished (not eliminated > completely) to make a loop that gradually fades over time? :-) hmmm. wish I'd said that. ......but you need a 3 head deck, otherwise you can't record and playback at the same time. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 05:31:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA07050; Fri, 10 May 2002 05:28:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:28:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <4f.1d3ec35d.2a0cec95@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:27:49 EDT Subject: Re: EDP NextLoop problem (Bradley) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Hi, > I tried all 3 settings (Send, OFF, "t i") for but My EDP will > no longer switch loops!!! It used to work fine. It's a 4 month old unit but I' > m afraid its subtly broken somehow. Kim? Matthias? Is there Are you using the footswitch, or the front panel. Just the footswitch may be faulty, in which case it's an easy fix. ...but if you can't get the function from the front panel either, then I suspect it's more serious. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 07:08:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA13086; Fri, 10 May 2002 07:05:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:05:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: c.jas@optusnet.com.au Message-Id: <200205101104.g4AB4rh26308@mail009.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) To: "Loopers-Delight @ loopers-delight . com" Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 21:04:53 +1000 Subject: My EPD, here soon Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My EPD is 2 weeks away, I'm lay-buying one of the very few that made it to australia, at a very good price[rare] It was great, except, i could'nt work out how to stop a loop. I'm from the headrush and dl4 world, and i feel i'm entering a new exciting galaxy! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 07:19:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA13823; Fri, 10 May 2002 07:17:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:17:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Om_Audio" To: Subject: Repeater tempo lock method- metronome is key. Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:16:24 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c1f814$1edfc3a0$6401a8c0@we.client2.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1F7D9.7280EBA0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <98iF6C.A.5VD.bw628@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1F7D9.7280EBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all- I just wanted to let you know how to set a tempo on the Repeater, record a loop, and have the tempo stay EXACTLY where you set it originally. You simply turn the metronome on, turn its volume to zero, and create your first loop- The start point will get re-triggered (which is the one drawback) but the tempo will NOT change which I myself find very useful at times. Om http://www.om-studios.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1F7D9.7280EBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1F7D9.7280EBA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 07:26:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14328; Fri, 10 May 2002 07:24:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:24:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008e01c1f830$1721e320$bda17ed8@waldo> From: "deknow" To: References: <000e01c1f5ec$f0179990$8628a8c0@CAMPBEBOWIN2K> Subject: Re: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:36:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i've been using longish (1.5min) loops of my beehive for more than a year :) (i installed a stereo mic pair when i built it). deknow ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Zvonar > > At least one prior example is Eric Singer's "boids" object for Max > http://www.ericsinger.com/Downloads/Boids.1.51.sea.hqx, an > implementation of Craig Reynolds' 1987 algorithm of the same name > http://www.red3d.com/cwr/boids/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 07:28:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14632; Fri, 10 May 2002 07:27:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:27:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Om_Audio" To: Subject: RE: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:26:41 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c1f815$8ea71200$6401a8c0@we.client2.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <008e01c1f830$1721e320$bda17ed8@waldo> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I want some! :) Cliff -----Original Message----- From: deknow [mailto:deknow@deknow.com] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:37 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software i've been using longish (1.5min) loops of my beehive for more than a year :) (i installed a stereo mic pair when i built it). deknow ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Zvonar > > At least one prior example is Eric Singer's "boids" object for Max > http://www.ericsinger.com/Downloads/Boids.1.51.sea.hqx, an > implementation of Craig Reynolds' 1987 algorithm of the same name > http://www.red3d.com/cwr/boids/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 07:43:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA15532; Fri, 10 May 2002 07:41:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:41:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003201c1f817$c3513560$1602a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: References: <000001c1f815$8ea71200$6401a8c0@we.client2.attbi.com> Subject: Robert Rich concert in San Francisco this Sunday Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:42:28 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <-ePpyC.A.NwD.SH728@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A little reminder for you Californians that Robert Rich is performing this Sunday in the Cowell Theatre at Fort Mason Center in San Francisco, which I understand is fairly large - so it's likely not sold out yet. When Robert played here in Toronto, I spotted an EDP, Repeater and Line 6 floor and rack mount loopers besides his MOTR modular synth, steel guitar, synths, flutes etc... All the show details are at the Dub Beautiful site: http://www.dub-beautiful.org Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 08:03:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17659; Fri, 10 May 2002 08:02:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:02:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: zvonar@pop.pan.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:55:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <8QwyyC.A.VTE.ha728@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 7:36 AM -0700 5/10/02, deknow wrote: >i've been using longish (1.5min) loops of my beehive for more than a year :) >(i installed a stereo mic pair when i built it). I've used the sounds of bees and other insects in several pieces, most notably in my theater piece OX (1987) where I mixed them with short wave radio sounds. I got the bee recordings from an artist in Oakland who was doing an installation piece in which he used to sit for hours on end with his head and shoulders inside a glass-walled beehive. The bees build their honeycombs around him without incident. OX also had an olfactory element; the piece ended with the lighting of a large beeswax candle in the shape of Icarus, with wicks embedded in his wings. During a narration of the story of his flight too near the sun, the wings of the wax figure melted down and filled the theater with the aroma of beeswax. -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2203 fax http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 08:41:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA19629; Fri, 10 May 2002 08:39:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:39:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: re: basic loops Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 20:39:05 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I've decided it's time to stop collecting gear for a while and actually learn to use the gear I have. I have an old PA, built like a tank and as heavy as one, whit a built in tape echo unit. It is made by FBT, and the model is Personal 2004t. It never came with the tape mechanism though, so I've always just improvised with a basic loop. Does anybody know anything about these and the tape mechanism they utilise? Secondly, I have an 8mm film splicer, and was wondering if this might be put to good use on reel to reel tape. If so, anybody got any idea how to use it? Any other Australians lurching on this list? regards, michael noble From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 09:25:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22822; Fri, 10 May 2002 09:24:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:24:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:24:17 -0400 Subject: Gig spam may 16th From: todd reynolds To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id JAA22779 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greetings to the list!!! This gig ALWAYS features plenty of looping, this time including phil kline, analog looper of death... And my own rig, AND a laptop guy who processes my loops... If you want to hear sound, go to http://www.toddreynolds.com/music.html Here is the press release... ========================== Violinist and Composer Todd Reynolds presents: Still Life With Microphone Version 3.0 Todd Reynolds assembles three very different and powerful artistic voices, downtown genre-destroying band GUTBUCKET, composer and boombox maestro PHIL KLINE, and laptopist DJ JESSE STILES, for an innovative evening of feature performances and interactive explorations. Thursday, May 16, 2002, 8:00pm Galapagos Art Space 70 N 6th St., Williamsburg, Brooklyn 718.782.5188 (Bedford stop on L train) www.galapagosartspace.com € www.toddreynolds.com April 30, New York On Thursday, May 16, violinist and composer Todd Reynolds continues to redefine łconcert performance˛ with the third installment of Still Life With Microphone at Galapagos Art Space. The previous two incarnations of Still Life... unified a range of performance disciplines and content: composed music by Todd Reynolds, the ensemble members and others; improvised music; improvised text; and spontaneously directed movement in the space, all orchestrated in real time using a conducting/composing system called Sound Painting, a gesture-based medium for structured improvisation developed by composer Walter Thompson that directs individual and ensemble actions in real time. While continuing the all-over stylistic and staging effect found in the previous versions of Still LifeŠ, Todd Reynolds is viewing Version 3.0 from a curatorąs perspective, bringing together three very different and powerful artistic voices to perform their own material, interact with each other, and integrate their audiences in a collaborative art event. Each łvoice˛ is indeed distinct and unique and includes downtown genre-destroying quartet Gutbucket, post-Minimalist composer Phil Kline with his battery of boomboxes and looping gear in tow, and laptopist DJ Jesse Stiles utilizing the performative software MAX/MSP with Reynolds himself, who The New Yorker calls łNew Yorkąs leading classical/jazz violinist˛, on amplified and digitized violin. The music will seamlessly flow between the component voices, developed and directed by Reynolds using Sound Painting. The performance will be structured in two 50-60 minute sets with a short break between them, with all three groups performing throughout the evening, both alone and in situations with others, sometimes orchestrated, sometimes spontaneous. Still Life With Microphone Version 3.0 takes place in the rapturous confines of Williamsburgąs preeminent performing art space, Galapagos. The New York Times describes it as having ła truly sublime reflecting pool, an expansive cathedral-like interior, brilliant spotlightingŠ˛ and as an łever-growing cultural oasis.˛ Please join Todd Reynolds and company for this visionary and innovative musical event. The following is a brief description of the Still Life With Microphone series by Todd Reynolds: łStill Life with Microphone grows out of a desire to bring my varied interests and modes of artistic expression under one roof. It allows me to piece together my love of theatre, improvisation, conducting and directing, editing and organizing ideas, and of performing. A typical Still LifeŠ event involves a cast of 5 to 8 performers across disciplines, composed music, improvised music, theater, video, and movement, creating a seamless magic carpet ride for the audience through events, styles, and genres.˛ More information about Todd: Violinist and composer Todd Reynolds is one of the most active musicians on the contemporary music scene. He is a founding member of New Yorkąs hottest string quartet, Ethel. He explores composing and improvising in his music-based performance art project Still Life With Mic. Todd is violinist for the Bang On A Can All Stars and Yo Yo Maąs Silk Road Project. He a frequent guest artist with the Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center and recently appeared as soloist with Yo Yo Ma in Tan Dun's Water Passion after St. Matthew at the Barbican Center in London. He acts as assistant conductor and violinist for Steve Reich and Musicians and the Walter Thompson Orchestra. Todd has premiered an immense number of compositions by composers including Michael Gordon, John King, Steve Reich, Elliot Sharp, Julia Wolfe, and Randall Wolff, As an improvisor and solo interpreter of new musics from classical to jazz and pop, and has appeared and/or recorded with such artists as Anthony Braxton, Uri Caine, John Cale, Steve Coleman, Joe Jackson, Dave Liebman, Graham Nash, Greg Osby, Steve Reich, Marcus Roberts, Wayne Shorter and Cassandra Wilson. Reynolds has recorded for Nonesuch, CRI, and Atlantic Records and can also be heard on Tan Dun's soundtrack for the film Fallen, starring Denzel Washington. On Broadway, he originated the role of "The Fiddler", playing and dancing on stage in the Tony Award-winning revival of Irving Berlin's Annie, Get Your Gun, starring Bernadette Peters and Reba McEntire. Currently he tours as part of the Mahavishnu Project, a five-piece jazz-fusion band which centers around the music of John McLaughlin's Mahavishnu Orchestra, performs often with The Betty Buckley Band, alongside Kenny Werner, Billy, Tony Marino, Jamey Haddad, and, of course, Ms. Buckley herself. For further information, and to arrange interviews please contact Christopher McIntyre at 917.676.4585, cmacartserv@mindspring.com, or visit: www.toddreynolds.com Christopher McIntyre C Mac Artist Services 917.676.4585 contact 212.725.5940 office/fax cmacartserv@mindspring.com --------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 10:32:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26776; Fri, 10 May 2002 10:31:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:31:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:31:02 -0400 From: Bill Cummings Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <028801c1f82f$501d66a0$fe17bd18@electric71xq89> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com (was: basic loops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "omjn" > Hi all, > > I've decided it's time to stop collecting gear for a while and actually > learn to use the gear I have. WHAT A NOVEL CONCEPT ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 10:47:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27528; Fri, 10 May 2002 10:46:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:46:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: learn to use the gear YOU have. Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:44:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2002 14:44:53.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[3ECD6A60:01C1F831] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Amen brother! Some friends are bugging me to pick up the Repeater, DL4 etc etc but I’m still learning & exploring w/ the EDP & even w/ my trusty old Echo+ petal too. :) >From: Bill Cummings >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have. >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:31:02 -0400 > >(was: basic loops) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "omjn" > > > Hi all, > > > > I've decided it's time to stop collecting gear for a while and actually > > learn to use the gear I have. > >WHAT A NOVEL CONCEPT ;-) > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 11:16:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30133; Fri, 10 May 2002 11:15:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:15:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003b01c1f835$004065a0$6445230a@melon> Reply-To: "Michael LaMeyer" From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: "skincage" , Cc: References: <002101c1f7bc$9d99cfe0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Subject: Re: repeater/mofx/kaoss pad midi control Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:11:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Resent-Message-ID: <4Qe_yB.A.eWH.tP-28@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com short answer, yes. long answer, you really won't be able to do this without taking some time to learn a bit about MIDI. don't be too intimidated, just search the web for "midi introduction" and you should get some useful stuff. you need to understand (in order of importance for what you're trying to do, IMO): midi channels continuous contol messages program control messages note ons/offs & velocity then read your manuals again. don't try to take in midi implementation charts all at once, start at the top and try to figure out what the very first line means. then go to the next line, ect. learn one line of the chart per day and in a month you'll be golden. slow but steady amigo, just patience and some attention. then see if there are any forums dedicated to the kaoss pad, and ask those folks about specifics. good hunting, mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "skincage" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:50 PM Subject: repeater/mofx/kaoss pad midi control > okay, sorry for the crosspost but i'm curious about something and thus must call about thee > wise loop gurus. i'm honestly lost whenever i try to read midi implementation charts. is > there any way for me to use either the mofx or kaoss pad to control pitch on the repeater? > or, is there a way to control the mofx with the kaoss? i have a kaoss on the insert of my > mofx, it'd be pretty neat if i could produce a weird symbiotic effect by controlling mofx > with the kaoss. > > thanks! > > jon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 11:27:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30710; Fri, 10 May 2002 11:26:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:26:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001001c1f836$dabd8360$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <002101c1f7bc$9d99cfe0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> <003b01c1f835$004065a0$6445230a@melon> Subject: Re: repeater/mofx/kaoss pad midi control Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:25:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > short answer, yes. long answer, you really won't be able to do > this without taking some time to learn a bit about MIDI. don't > be too intimidated, just search the web for "midi introduction" > and you should get some useful stuff. . . . Harmony Central has some good info/links: http://www.harmony-central.com/MIDI/Doc/doc.html Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 11:39:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31334; Fri, 10 May 2002 11:37:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:37:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [65.112.197.16] From: "Jim Hendrix" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: GNX3 with JamMan and recorder? Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:36:33 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2002 15:36:34.0083 (UTC) FILETIME=[76F6D730:01C1F838] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Has anyone heard anything about the DigiTech GNX3? The ad says it has an 8 track digital recorder / looper built in and that the looper is a JamMan. Is it like the origional Lexicon JamMan? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 11:41:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31706; Fri, 10 May 2002 11:40:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:40:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00e201c1f838$d5c37ca0$1c605cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: "AIMusic" , "The Ambient Way" , "Analogue Heaven" , "beyond_em" , "ElectronicMusic" , "Steven Schneck" , "Greg Jones" , "Audrey Melick" , "Guy Stauffer" , "Harold DiGiacomo" , "John Kelly" , "Joseph Hendricks" , "Kevyn Solberg" , "Micah R. Sadigh" , "Philip B. Memmer" , "Randall F Smith" , "Terry Furber" , "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" , "GoldTri" , "Loopers Delight" , "MMML" , "new-age-radio Mailing List" , "spacemusic" , "tadream" , Subject: Soundscapes #2 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:38:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Ministry of Inside Things will perform their special brand of spacemusic at the second installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series. The concert will take place at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island, Saturday, June 22, at 8:00 pm. Doors open at 7:30 pm for a free buffet dinner provided by Chef Jeff. Those who attended Soundscapes #1 will recall a memorable evening of great music and food. Soundscapes #2 promises to be just as enjoyable, as well as being the only source of live spacemusic in the Lehigh Valley. Admission at the door will be $15. Full time Students with valid ID and members of WDIY and WMUH will receive a $5 discount. Advance tickets will be $10 (no discounts), availability to be announced. The Ministry Of Inside Things consists of electric guitarist Art Cohen and synthesist Chuck van Zyl. Considered among the most innovative of electronic musicians in the U.S. today, the members of MoIT are influenced by the early music of Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze and Ash Ra Tempel. Their spacemusic has been described as linear because it leads the listener across many sonic terrains. Based on improvisation, The Ministry Of Inside Things creates electronic realizations that flow from theme to theme, often for two hours at a stretch. Through the use of textures and atmospheres as well as harmony, rhythm and melody, the group transports the audience on an internal sonic excursion. Chuck van Zyl has been recording electronic music and performing in public for over 15 years. Van Zyl originally worked under the name Xisle, but is best known for hosting one of the country's most successful radio shows of electronic music, STAR'S END, for over 20 years. Van Zyl has released two CDs of spacemusic on the Centaur label, Celestial Mechanics and The Relic. The Sound Museum with Peter Gulch and D. Andrew Rath was released on the Groove label in 2001. A collaborative effort with Peter Gulch, Regeneration Mode, was released on their own Synkronos label. Art Cohen has been pushing the limits of the electric guitar in the studio and in live performance for well over 15 years. He uses processing to enhance the space around his guitar and loops his live sound to create lush layers to create soundworlds of immense depth and beauty. The Ministry Of Inside Things has performed at Art & Technology, The Philadelphia Museum of Art, First Night Wilmington, the Wild Talents opening reception at the ICA, Gate To Moon Base Alpha, the Boyertown Planetarium, Gathering Concert Series, on the 01.28.01 broadcast of STAR'S END, and on the 07.12.01 broadcast of EMUSIC. Soundscapes #2 is coproduced by WDS Productions and Wooden Shoe Music. Bill billfox@fast.net SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://www.tadream.net/soundscapes Wooden Shoe Music: http://woodenshoemusic.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 11:53:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA32509; Fri, 10 May 2002 11:52:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:52:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: learn to use the gear YOU have. Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:50:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com pheh. you'll be back at the dealer for your fix soon enuff ;) we should have a gear 12-step yahoogroup. -----Original Message----- From: Louis Rossi [mailto:tarbit@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:45 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: learn to use the gear YOU have. Amen brother! Some friends are bugging me to pick up the Repeater, DL4 etc etc but I'm still learning & exploring w/ the EDP & even w/ my trusty old Echo+ petal too. :) >From: Bill Cummings >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have. >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:31:02 -0400 > >(was: basic loops) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "omjn" > > > Hi all, > > > > I've decided it's time to stop collecting gear for a while and actually > > learn to use the gear I have. > >WHAT A NOVEL CONCEPT ;-) > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 11:55:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00436; Fri, 10 May 2002 11:55:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:55:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: RE: Gig Postings From: Jeffrey Lomas To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00e201c1f838$d5c37ca0$1c605cd1@LocalHost> References: <00e201c1f838$d5c37ca0$1c605cd1@LocalHost> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.4.99 Date: 10 May 2002 11:50:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1021045855.6428.24.camel@skinny> Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com All, Do you think it would be possible to include more specific geographical information regarding where your gigs are when you post to the list? Some of us have trouble keeping track of where we are, let alone where the rest of you people are. Example of confusing information: "The concert will take place at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island, Saturday, June 22, at 8:00 pm" Somehow I have this notion that he isn't referring to the disputed territory in Palestine, but I can't confirm that. Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 13:37:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08016; Fri, 10 May 2002 13:36:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:36:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020510173602.57445.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradley Fish Subject: Re: EDP NextLoop problem (Thanks Andy!) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4f.1d3ec35d.2a0cec95@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1393208108-1021052162=:56642" Resent-Message-ID: <9nouIC.A.G9B.EUA38@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --0-1393208108-1021052162=:56642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sure enough-bad footswitch button...I'm guessing Gibson will fix it. I'll probably buy a backup in the meantime... SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > I tried all 3 settings (Send, OFF, "t i") for but My EDP will > no longer switch loops!!! It used to work fine. It's a 4 month old unit but I' > m afraid its subtly broken somehow. Kim? Matthias? Is there Are you using the footswitch, or the front panel. Just the footswitch may be faulty, in which case it's an easy fix. ...but if you can't get the function from the front panel either, then I suspect it's more serious. andy butler --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! --0-1393208108-1021052162=:56642 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Sure enough-bad footswitch button...I'm guessing Gibson will fix it. I'll probably buy a backup in the meantime... 

  SoundFNR@aol.com wrote:

> Hi,
> I tried all 3 settings (Send, OFF, "t i") for but My EDP will
> no longer switch loops!!! It used to work fine. It's a 4 month old unit but
I'
> m afraid its subtly broken somehow. Kim? Matthias? Is there

Are you using the footswitch, or the front panel.
Just the footswitch may be faulty, in which case it's an
easy fix.
...but if you can't get the function from the front panel either,
then I suspect it's more serious.

andy butler


Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! --0-1393208108-1021052162=:56642-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 14:58:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13079; Fri, 10 May 2002 14:57:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:57:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003401c1f854$572ea2e0$0801a8c0@vz.dsl.genuity.net> From: "Clifford Novey" To: References: Subject: Re: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:56:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This topic brings to mind that wonderful film "Cremaster 2" by Matthew Barney- so much crazy bee imagery- and there is nothing like watching a rock singer perform death metal while covered with bees! Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Zvonar" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:55 AM Subject: Re: OT:Insect swarming inspires jazz software > At 7:36 AM -0700 5/10/02, deknow wrote: > >i've been using longish (1.5min) loops of my beehive for more than a year :) > >(i installed a stereo mic pair when i built it). > > I've used the sounds of bees and other insects in several pieces, > most notably in my theater piece OX (1987) where I mixed them with > short wave radio sounds. I got the bee recordings from an artist in > Oakland who was doing an installation piece in which he used to sit > for hours on end with his head and shoulders inside a glass-walled > beehive. The bees build their honeycombs around him without incident. > OX also had an olfactory element; the piece ended with the lighting > of a large beeswax candle in the shape of Icarus, with wicks embedded > in his wings. During a narration of the story of his flight too near > the sun, the wings of the wax figure melted down and filled the > theater with the aroma of beeswax. > -- > ____________________________________________________________________________ __ > Richard Zvonar (818) 788-2202 voice > zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2203 fax > http://www.zvonar.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 17:51:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25889; Fri, 10 May 2002 17:50:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 17:50:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:49:47 -0700 From: pnyboer@slambassador.com (peter nyboer) Subject: [ad] Girl loop mixing for the mac X-Sender: pnyboer@mail.yowstar.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, There's been some serious updating and upgrading for the Girl loop mixing software (Mac os9 only, built in Max/MSP) going on. Take a look: http://girl.yowstar.com and some girl produced tracks are here: http://girl.yowstar.com/music.html Peace, Peter. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 10 23:43:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13925; Fri, 10 May 2002 23:41:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 23:41:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CDC925E.41364D78@minds-eye.org> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 20:39:10 -0700 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GNX3 with JamMan and recorder? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <62G1W.A.8YD.zKJ38@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I downloaded the manual from Digitech and took a look at the thing. I don't honestly think that the Jamman (trademark) feature has much to do its Lexicon predecessor. As far as I can tell, they have an eight track digital recorder set up so you can create a loop on one track and then overdub (and remove) stuff on the other seven tracks. I think that's about the extent of it. I'm sure its got the backwards features and the like but as far as being a looper I think its very limited in its idea of what you can do with a loop; play something, loop it, play some stuff on top of it, remove some of that stuff. Its probably great if you want to have one portable unit that does everything, effects processing (pretty extensive), recording and then some rudimentary looping. However, if you want to get really creative with the loops, I think you might burn this out pretty quickly. It does have a lot of time available for loops though. That's just my impression from a quick read through of the manual though, I haven't played one or anything like that. Kevin Jim Hendrix wrote: > Has anyone heard anything about the DigiTech GNX3? The ad says it has an 8 > track digital recorder / looper built in and that the looper is a JamMan. Is > it like the origional Lexicon JamMan? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 11 04:25:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA30792; Sat, 11 May 2002 04:24:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 04:24:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c1f8c4$c7750ce0$9d9987d9@fastun> From: "Gareth Whittock" To: References: <3CDAB3CD.FB35FC56@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Handsonic - bass strings on guitars Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:54:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just spent an hour trying one out - absolutely hated it! It felt like a dead thing in my hands - nice sounds and everything and the ribbon controllers are cool but very little in the way of sonic nuance. Lots of crap samples that have nothing to do with percussion either - crappy electric guitars and GM sounds - yuk. To cap it all, (and even though I was prepared for it) it looks like a dalek's handbag! Any one using a Zendrum? Gareth. Oh, I ended up buying a bass guitar E string for my crappy but sonically beautiful secondhand, machettied electric guitar- it works a treat - I can now lay down some deep bass under my loops without carrying another instrument with me - anyone else doing this ? I was thinking of looking at some 7 stringers to get my old bottom E back. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 11 06:57:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA04491; Sat, 11 May 2002 06:56:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 06:56:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000601c1f8da$6cc826e0$0201a8c0@eluk> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <3CDAB3CD.FB35FC56@zerocrossing.net> <000201c1f8c4$c7750ce0$9d9987d9@fastun> Subject: Re: Handsonic - bass strings on guitars Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 11:17:14 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Gareth Whittock" gave me a good morning chuckle... > Just spent an hour trying one out - absolutely hated it! > It felt like a dead thing in my hands - nice sounds and everything and > the ribbon controllers are cool but very little in the way of sonic nuance. > Lots of crap samples that have nothing to do with percussion either - crappy > electric guitars and GM sounds - yuk. > To cap it all, (and even though I was prepared for it) it looks like a > dalek's handbag! Don't think too much about what a Dalek's handbag looks like unless you've seen "Dr. Who", folks. Of course I've not seen a Handsonic, so the mind boggles. I think of Hilary Rosen of the RIAA as a kind of Dalek, going on and on and on and on chanting "Adjudicate! Adjudicate! Kill the indies!" :) > Oh, I ended up buying a bass guitar E string for my crappy but sonically > beautiful secondhand, machettied electric guitar- it works a treat - I can > now lay down some deep bass under my loops without carrying another > instrument with me - anyone else doing this ? I was thinking of looking at > some 7 stringers to get my old bottom E back. I asked someone about doing something like this years ago - a bass player - and he told me that one should not put too much of a guage of bass string on one side of the neck, as it can cause gradual damage to the base of the neck. I asked about solid bodies, and he said that at some point even those would succumb, and one day you'd end up with an unexpected sitar twang coming out of the first and second strings. While this might be pretty cool-sounding initially, I was told that it's the first sign that some bending is happening to the neck. My friend back then said that, if the guage isn't too extreme, one might be able to get away with it. Now I wish I had my old $49.99 Sam Goody Special Sekova around to experiment on. It had already earned the title "Frankenguitar" some years before I finally hunkered down and bought my beloved Strat, "Cthulhu". By the way, I got to go see Ian Hunter and the "Rant Band" last night here in London - my editor's in town and bought the tix for us! - and it was outstanding. And not just a trip back in time for an old geezer either! Really worth seeing if you love Mott the Hoople's stuff at least. Stephen P. Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios - The Free Loop of the Week! http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons! http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack.html - More Cartoons! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 11 08:30:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09362; Sat, 11 May 2002 08:29:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 08:29:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c1f8e7$6031e120$be2e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <3CDAB3CD.FB35FC56@zerocrossing.net> <000201c1f8c4$c7750ce0$9d9987d9@fastun> <000601c1f8da$6cc826e0$0201a8c0@eluk> Subject: Re: Handsonic - bass strings on guitars Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 14:28:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, if you want some bassy sounds from a 7 stringer you can try with flatwound jazz strings. I use a Schecter C7 guitar with flatwounds - gauge 011 to 060 with a fixed bridge. A bit hard at first, but now I can't play without them. To get an even bassier sound I tune EBGDADA bottom to top. Peace Luigi > > Oh, I ended up buying a bass guitar E string for my crappy but sonically > > beautiful secondhand, machettied electric guitar- it works a treat - I can > > now lay down some deep bass under my loops without carrying another > > instrument with me - anyone else doing this ? I was thinking of looking at > > some 7 stringers to get my old bottom E back. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 11 11:55:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19959; Sat, 11 May 2002 11:53:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 11:53:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQNZ2ZkVdltWyafZolr0sYvfammrwIUMEFiZq7JUI9HCTZrpuQR30ttj60= From: BILLYBUDDHA@webtv.net (William Mcallister) Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Handsonic - bass strings on guitars Message-ID: <29105-3CDD3E5B-1171@storefull-2355.public.lawson.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Gareth Whittock" 's message of Fri, 10 May 2002 06:54:39 +0100 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gareth, did you check out the Roland SPD 20, pecussion pad. Its got twice as many sounds, and extra-outs if you want to add more pads. I added a the V-drum bass drum trigger so I play things standing up. and you can put any sound or effect you want on the pad, and all the "canned' sounds are totally tweakable. fully midi, and half the price. Bill/Las Vegas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 11 19:26:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14664; Sat, 11 May 2002 19:25:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:25:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JIMFOWLER@prodigy.net To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:24:56 -0500 Subject: OT: expression pedal with all access Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com for those of use using the rocktron all access, which pedal do you use for expression? thanks. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 11 19:57:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15652; Sat, 11 May 2002 19:56:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:56:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JIMFOWLER@prodigy.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:56:01 -0500 Subject: cable direction!!! just kidding, but you should check this out... Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com go here for a good laugh: http://gallery.consumerreview.com/audio/gallery/files/o pus-mm.asp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 11 20:23:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18069; Sat, 11 May 2002 20:22:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 20:22:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <020d01c1f94b$0a3e4100$dde35cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: References: <00e201c1f838$d5c37ca0$1c605cd1@LocalHost> <1021045855.6428.24.camel@skinny> Subject: Re: Gig Postings Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 20:21:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Lomas" > Do you think it would be possible to include more specific geographical > information regarding where your gigs are when you post to the list? > Some of us have trouble keeping track of where we are, let alone where > the rest of you people are. > > Example of confusing information: > "The concert will take place at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand > Island, Saturday, June 22, at 8:00 pm" Oops. Pennsylvania. The Lehigh Valley, Allentown, Bethlehem, WDIY, etc. are in SE Pennsylvania about 1.25 hours north of Philadelphia. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 11 22:10:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23847; Sat, 11 May 2002 22:06:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 22:06:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:05:41 -0700 Subject: Re: cable direction!!! just kidding, but you should check this out... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Oh, it's clear to see which direction the signal on those cables was meant to go in... STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!! AH HAHHAH HAHHHAHAHAHHHAMWA MWAAH AH! On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 05:56 PM, JIMFOWLER@prodigy.net wrote: > http://gallery.consumerreview.com/audio/gallery/files/o > pus-mm.asp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 11 22:18:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24437; Sat, 11 May 2002 22:17:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 22:17:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005401c1f95b$5e3ed200$1602a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: References: <20020502062512.88243.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: The Ambient Ping presents Planet Of The Loops Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 22:18:55 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <8PoNIB.A.r9F.6Cd38@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com THE AMBiENT PiNG http://www.theambientping.com Every Tuesday Night - doors open at 9pm - 1st set at 9:30 @ club nia / C'est What - 19 Church St. at Front St. - Toronto 3 blocks east of the Union Station subway. map - http://www.cestwhat.com/map.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . This Tuesday May 14th 2002 - Planet Of The Loops This edition of Planet Of The Loops presents 3 veteran loopers. Kurt Swinghammer is well known as a singer/songwriter, an ace guitarist and a visual artist in a variety of media - but he is also an experimental musician and performed at the very 1st Planet Of The Loops concert in 1998. Guitarist Andrew Aldridge also performed at that first show as he is the founder of this floating ensemble of improvisers and an inspiring example of a looping performer. Trumpet player Wally Jericho has been a regular player with the Planet for years and was the first performer at The Ambient Ping in 1999. Don't miss this trip into the unknown with a well-seasoned crew. Wally Jericho - http://www.wallyjericho.com Kurt Swinghammer - http://www.swinghammer.com Andrew Aldridge - http://www.geocities.com/energymadeaudible/homepage.html Planet Of The Loops - http://www.geocities.com/energymadeaudible/planet.html Between sets - "The Spirit Molecule" Anomalous Disturbances Guitar-based ambient looping CD by Vancouver's Terry Obien. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Ambient Ping presents free live performances by Toronto's finest ambient, chillout and experimental music artists plus performers from across the continent, every Tuesday at club nia (aka C'est What) featuring a comfortable lower stage area, perfect for attentive listening, plus a higher level with a bar, back room and more seating that's great for conversation, good food and the club's impressive beer, wine and whiskey selection. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Coming May 21st 2002 - Sara Ayers and Mara's Torment . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 12 02:07:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA04035; Sun, 12 May 2002 02:06:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 02:06:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 23:07:45 -0700 From: Miko Biffle Subject: Re: learn to use the gear YOU have. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00a101c1f97b$55eeede0$1d02a8c0@MyComputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I sorta have a retro-thing going on too... I've taken to playing with just a pedalboard and mono amp (which is REALLY retro for me...) But sitting in the corner was my old Pearce G2r rackmount amp. I've sold off some really bitchin' high-end Lex and Korg stuff and have just my EDP and a Vortex left. My funky 15 watt tube amp decided to start humming and blowing tubes so I just racked up the Pearce, EDP, Vortex and just had a wonderful night looping with it. I've had that Pearce since the late 80's. (Probably needs caps). I've been able to incorporate my pedal board as well by patching all the distortions before the Pearce and the wet stuff at the preamp output into the EDP and Vortex. (There's a Fuzz Probe and a Lovetone ? Flanger on it, so it can make some pretty wack sounds...) > From: Louis Rossi [mailto:tarbit@hotmail.com] >> Amen brother! Some friends are bugging me to pick up the Repeater, DL4 etc etc but I'm still learning & exploring w/ the EDP & even w/ my trusty old Echo+ petal too. :) > > > I've decided it's time to stop collecting gear for a while and actually learn to use the gear I have. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 12 03:10:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA07324; Sun, 12 May 2002 03:08:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 03:08:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c1f983$550f90c0$c6cc87d9@fastun> From: "Gareth Whittock" To: References: <29105-3CDD3E5B-1171@storefull-2355.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Handsonic - bass strings on guitars Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 22:34:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for the feedback guys. I'll check this SPD 20 thing out too. I think I'll buy myself another "real" drum. This of course still leaves me with the problem of live mic'ing - I've been using an SM58, I've just manged to get hold of a used AKG D12 - what does the group make of these little AKG rock drum mics - I'm obsessed with getting my live rig as portable as possible! Hwyl, Gareth > Gareth, did you check out the Roland SPD 20, pecussion pad. Its got > twice as many sounds, and extra-outs if you want to add more pads. I > added a the V-drum bass drum trigger so I play things standing up. and > you can put any sound or effect you want on the pad, and all the > "canned' sounds are totally tweakable. fully midi, and half the price. > Bill/Las Vegas > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 12 14:26:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14280; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:15:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:15:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CDEB169.BD4F2E36@club-internet.fr> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 20:16:12 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [fr] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: SpiralLoops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anyone know about this looping tool ? http://www.pawfal.org/SpiralLoops/ I wonder if loops can be BPM synced Emmanuel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 12 18:35:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28907; Sun, 12 May 2002 18:34:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 18:34:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020512223331.42530.qmail@web20009.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 15:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Meyers Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <028801c1f82f$501d66a0$fe17bd18@electric71xq89> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > Hi all, > > > > I've decided it's time to stop collecting gear for > a while and actually > > learn to use the gear I have. > > WHAT A NOVEL CONCEPT ;-) > > agreed, and not only that, but a concept i've posed to the group in the past. be careful though, some folks are touchy about what the gear is used for whether it be for show or actually for making music or better yet, sounds (i don't think that the word sound can be interpretted nearly as much as the word music, so i think it is safe to write it)...i'm still impressed by the lights and nobs though, and don't forget switches, gotta have switches! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 12 19:21:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31904; Sun, 12 May 2002 19:21:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 19:21:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.204.75.20] From: "Chris Olden" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have.(going OT) Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 23:20:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2002 23:20:14.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[92085B50:01C1FA0B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, Being new to the looping world(although I have been a fan of looping based music for a while), I have purchased a good(I hope so!!) set of stuff with which to make loop-based noise. However, I find myself almost overwhelmed by the possibilities that I know my gear is capable of. I suppose taking small steps may have been the right way to go, but I dove into the deep end instead. I'd like to ask the members of the list what approach you took to making loop-based music when just starting out? Sincerely, Chris Olden _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 12 22:28:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09342; Sun, 12 May 2002 22:27:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:27:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001d01c1fa25$2500ade0$cb68fea9@melon> Reply-To: "Michael LaMeyer" From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have.(going OT) Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:23:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com mess with stuff! woohoo!! mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Olden" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:20 PM Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have.(going OT) > > > > Hello, > Being new to the looping world(although I have been a > fan of looping based music for a while), I have purchased > a good(I hope so!!) set of stuff with which to make > loop-based noise. However, I find myself almost overwhelmed > by the possibilities that I know my gear is capable of. > I suppose taking small steps may have been the right way > to go, but I dove into the deep end instead. > > I'd like to ask the members of the list what approach > you took to making loop-based music when just starting out? > Sincerely, > Chris Olden > > > > ________________________________________________________________ _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 00:43:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16715; Mon, 13 May 2002 00:42:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 00:42:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Qua and Vishara Veda" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight. com" Subject: RE: emmersive sound Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:41:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'd like to thank everyone for their input on this thread, and report that I've come up with a sound system that I feel works very well. Briefly there are 2 integrated system. 1) The 'core sound' is monoral, but split high/low frequencies, into a high-quality amp/cabs (for my Stick or bass, or other fullrange sounds). The core sound is split high freq/low freq. using a Rane DC-24 comp/lim.(which has a very cool crossover feature!). So the core sound can have effects added, or can be bi-amped. 2) The 'ambient sound' is stereo and/or dual mono. I use this for a wet FX mix (stereo reverb, chorus, spacey) and separate treatment of the bass/melody sides of my Stick). I play this through relatively inexpensive, small speakrs at low volumes. This system produces lots of ability to dial in the sound quality, and creates a very detailed high-definition sound and lots of 'space' and emmersion through the stereo mix. By using 3-4 different cabs/amps, Left/Right, High/Low, the possibilities are really wonderful. This saved me from buying two high-end amp/cabs and provides even more sonic possibilities. Routing: Bass/Melody into 2channel RaneSP-13preamp. Use AuxSends after EQ to route the channels to effects, and into channels of a mackie mixer. The "Mono" mode of the SP-13 sums the Bass/Melody channels at the Outputs. One of the summed outputs is fed into the RaneDC-24 comp/lim in its "crossover" mode, highs/lows are treated as desired and OutputA ->highs, OutputB->lows. These can be sent to mixer, or to a premap for the core sound. thanks everyone for sharing your ideas, -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Jazwell Wankerl [mailto:duckbill@fastmail.fm] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:41 AM To: LD Subject: RE: emmersive sound Wow, some cool ideas. My band has wanted to play around with surround sound someday. (We look forward to be able to release a 5.1 audio DVD when we can afford to do such things.) Anyway, this thread made me think of the Behringer Edison. I have never used it so I cant speak from experience but it claims to be able to process a stereo image to create a '3D' sound field by generating a controllable virtual 3rd center speaker. Maybe not applicable to Qua's needs but someone might have fun with such a device. ---Jazwell Wankerl phone: 715.833.2290 cell: 920.980.8311 jaz@iwonderasiwander.net 'Duckbill Glass' Synths * Samples Effects * Engineering I Wonder as I Wander... $$$$$$'$$$$$$ "He was born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad." -R Sabatini $$$$$$'$$$$$$ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 01:04:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18753; Mon, 13 May 2002 01:00:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 01:00:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: not8ohm@iinet.net.au To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 12:59:17 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have.(going OT) Message-ID: <3CDFB8A5.9413.3565758@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey, I guess this was part of my question too, but I never included in the text, which would make it hard to answer since technically it wasn't asked. But now that you've let the cat out - how do, or did, you infinitely experienced loopers go about starting your music-making? personally, pre-aquisition stage, I've always jammed with loops in mind, or tried to auralise just what whatever it is I'm playing would sound like being repeated. Unfortunately, my mind doesn't work too well with overdub, and that's why I require all these pseudo cybernetic extensions of what I feel are intrinsic human looping capabilities. at the moment, my approach largely does consist of the mess with stuff! approach as advocated by mike, but I would like to start incorporating a little more structure in with the mayhem. Is looping, in all practicalities, largely depepndent on emergent phenomenon arising from the mess with stuff! approach? What other possibilities lie in the loop? -michael > I'd like to ask the members of the list what approach > you took to making loop-based music when just starting out? > Sincerely, > Chris Olden > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 02:03:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA21830; Mon, 13 May 2002 02:02:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 02:02:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 23:01:22 -0700 Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20020512223331.42530.qmail@web20009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com But what happens when you want new gear? On Sunday, May 12, 2002, at 03:33 PM, Evan Meyers wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've decided it's time to stop collecting gear for >> a while and actually >>> learn to use the gear I have. >> >> WHAT A NOVEL CONCEPT ;-) >> >> > > agreed, and not only that, but a concept i've posed to > the group in the past. be careful though, some folks > are touchy about what the gear is used for whether it > be for show or actually for making music or better > yet, sounds (i don't think that the word sound can be > interpretted nearly as much as the word music, so i > think it is safe to write it)...i'm still impressed by > the lights and nobs though, and don't forget switches, > gotta have switches! > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 08:52:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA12919; Mon, 13 May 2002 08:51:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:51:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020513125048.86948.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 05:50:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20020512223331.42530.qmail@web20009.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com snips --- Evan Meyers wrote: > > > > > agreed, and not only that, but a concept i've posed > to> the group in the past. be careful though, some > folks> are touchy about what the gear is used for whether> it> be for show or actually for making music or better> yet, sounds (i don't think that the word sound can> be> interpretted nearly as much as the word music, so i> think it is safe to write it)...i'm still impressed> by > the lights and nobs though, and don't forget > switches, > gotta have switches! > Evan, et al. - most of us (all of us?) don't like to think we're on the wrong road, thus the touchiness. but ya know I agree with you. If someone has talent then their gear will not get in the way, and if they are lacking in that regard, well their gear won't hide it either. best, Pedro hey, did you get to Chama on Sat.? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 09:03:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14973; Mon, 13 May 2002 09:02:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:02:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020513130128.83072.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 06:01:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have.(going OT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <6Mwgp.A.TpD.tk738@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com snips~ --- Chris Olden wrote: > I'd like to ask the members of the list what > approach> you took to making loop-based music when just> starting out? > Sincerely, > Chris Olden > Chris - I first looped with a Rockman delay of some sort or other at 14 years of age. Therefater I looped with an Alesis Quadraverb (I shite you not) and other multieffect processors that have delay programs that I liked (Lexicon MPX500 and LXP15, Rocktron Intellifex, Digitech 33B) The first delay unit that I used for looping was a Digitech RDS8000. my advice: try out gear beforehand and don't be shy at music stores, ask all the annoying questions and spend all day with the gear. it is after all your money. best regards, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 09:10:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15618; Mon, 13 May 2002 09:10:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:10:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020513130936.10973.qmail@web12307.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 06:09:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have.(going OT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3CDFB8A5.9413.3565758@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com snips --- not8ohm@iinet.net.au wrote: > hey, > how do, or did,> you infinitely experienced > loopers go about starting your music-making? > personally, pre-aquisition > stage, I've always jammed with loops in mind, or > tried to auralise just what > whatever it is I'm playing would sound like being > repeated. interesting. I was, and am, a heavy motif type player also. looping came pretty quickly to me and made sense. > at the moment, my approach largely does consist of > the mess with stuff! > approach as advocated by mike, but I would like to > start incorporating a little > more structure in with the mayhem. Is looping, in > all practicalities, largely > depepndent on emergent phenomenon arising from the > mess with stuff! > approach? What other possibilities lie in the loop? > > -michael i'm an improvosational musician in most ways and am very honest about my limitations on my instrument. I loop what I can to a good affect if possible. I'm also a good (or at least getting there) instrumentalist, so when I have nothing good to loop I simply play. works out pretty well and when I hear something I know I can wreck people's minds with, I go there. best regards, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 10:05:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19217; Mon, 13 May 2002 10:04:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:04:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:05:09 -0400 Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V02 #293 From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200205131252.IAA13028@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I agree with "mess with stuff". Another good thing to try is to isolate elements and use only those. E>G> I have 2 synths, vocals, 2 edps and a headrush -- so sometimes I just use the headrush and one synth and play for an hour, sometimes only vocals and edps. >> >> I'd like to ask the members of the list what approach >> you took to making loop-based music when just starting out? >> Sincerely, >> Chris Olden >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 10:10:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19821; Mon, 13 May 2002 10:09:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:09:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:09:11 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00a301c1fa87$c14ecb20$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: <-XQbH.A.c0E.Ik838@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i modified my moogerfooger controllers for this. (requires switching the connections at the pot) i don't think i would recommend buying them for this purpose, they are kind of expensive for the plastic things they are (i had them already when i decided to do this) i think i will eventually get some ernie balls but this will require changing the pot to a linear taper... unless you want a log taper (if that's your taste, times being what they are) > for those of use using the rocktron all access, which > pedal do you use for expression? > > thanks. > > -jim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 11:13:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25117; Mon, 13 May 2002 11:12:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:12:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001d01c1fa90$012437f0$660a230a@melon> Reply-To: "Michael LaMeyer" From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V02 #293 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:08:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Resent-Message-ID: <-yod4C.A.5HG.he938@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com right. essentially, by 'mess with stuff' i was attempting to imply that just about any approach you could come up with has the potential to further your looping development. basically, just dig in and start doing it. fwiw, i started out with long delay times, high feedback (classic). then, i started manipulating the feedback with a pedal, then i started messing with delay times and/or feedback and/or other parameters, then i tried out feeding two delays into each other, manipulating feedback and delay times between them & playing with crossfading, then i went back to simply long delay times and high feedback, but tried out things with my instruments that i hadn't done before like running the delays with no sync, then i got REAL wack and started modulating as many elements of my signal chain as possible just to see wtf would happen (running one delay through some crazy processing and the other one through something else, preferrably some kind of vocal-based modulation a la vocorder/talkbox, WHILE splitting the output signal from both delays and feeding the "dry" delays into each like before but with a crossfade pedal to control amount/feedback), then i got a repeater and now i've got two delays/modulators and a 4-track sampling looper going and things rapidly get out of hand .... whatever you do, just pay attention and you'll learn all about it ... ;-) mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Sandberg" To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V02 #293 > I agree with "mess with stuff". > Another good thing to try is to isolate elements and use only those. E>G> I > have 2 synths, vocals, 2 edps and a headrush -- so sometimes I just use the > headrush and one synth and play for an hour, sometimes only vocals and edps. > >> > >> I'd like to ask the members of the list what approach > >> you took to making loop-based music when just starting out? > >> Sincerely, > >> Chris Olden > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 11:47:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26859; Mon, 13 May 2002 11:42:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:42:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:47:50 -0500 Subject: feedback pedal for the Echoplex? From: Peter Einhorn To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi- I'm new to the group. I have a question about a feedback pedal for the Echoplex. Can any of you folks reccomend a light pedal that has a pretty even spread of values? I'm a guitar player and gtr vol. pedals don't work. [not line level]. Kim sez get the Boss FV-50L. This is a big stereo pedal w/ tons of I/O. I'm looking for something simple. Any ideas? Thanks for your help. Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 12:41:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32441; Mon, 13 May 2002 12:39:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 12:39:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: RE: learn to use the gear I have.(going OT) Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:39:19 +0200 Message-ID: <000d01c1fa9c$bb0b59d0$0601a8c0@SATAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: <1-IqHC.A.d6H.7w-38@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Chris, > loop-based noise. However, I find myself almost overwhelmed > by the possibilities that I know my gear is capable of. Wait until you reach that point when you're overwhelmed by the possibilities that you don't know your gear is capable of! And of course, a large setup, a few devices you don't understand at all, an unmarked patchbay, a "distributed set" of equipment (i.e. you have to take a few steps across the performance stage to get from device A to device B and from both points, can't see device C) all help in this part of the looping experience! Joking aside, my first experiences with looping as a "passive looper" (audient) came from "classical" music. Beethoven Symphony No.7, 3rd mov, or better still J.S. Bach, Passacaglia in c-minor for Organ BWV 582 (actually, I did a loop piece based on the passive theme of this composition contained on my mp3.com location, but it's not a great example of loop showmanship). First experiences with own looping: a composition of mine for big percussion ensemble, piano, synth and winds based on the idea of repeating patterns of different length (a concept which in various approaches can be found in the music of Terry Riley btw). The first idea to "do it yourself" using electronic means came from the King Crimson internet newsletter via the work of Robert Fripp. Although I didn't like his stuff, I started out with a few delays and a sequencer running in loop (also found in the examples on my page from the "A Blessing of Beers" album). "Real" looping started with the DL4, and since then, while sonic quality, complexity and of course routine has grown, I did not really progress into new (for me) uncharted territority. Perhaps this will happen if and when I do better understand my gear and (next to my live band project, a demanding job and my activities in sports) find time to simply think more about making loop-based music. Currently, my main rig (which I use for my weirdstuff music) incorporates with regards to looping a Repeater, a Vortex, a D Two and a Headrush (you Headrushers out there: have you ever tried plugging the different outs of the headrush tape echo into different effect processors ?). My "normal" rig contains loopwise a DL4 and a RDS2001 (both device are normally not used for looping, though, this rig is used for my concerts with my improvised contemporary dance crossover group "Eclectic Blah"). All the best wishes for your looping carreer - welcome to the club, and keep us posted. Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 13:34:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04663; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:33:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:33:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Per Boysen" To: Subject: SV: feedback pedal for the Echoplex? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 19:33:06 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <6gnTHD.A.bIB.Wj_38@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Hi- I'm new to the group. I have a question about a feedback pedal for the > Echoplex. > Can any of you folks reccomend a light pedal that has a pretty even spread > of values? > I'm a guitar player and gtr vol. pedals don't work. [not line level]. Kim > sez get the Boss FV-50L. This is a big stereo pedal w/ tons of I/O. I'm > looking for something simple. Any ideas? > Thanks for your help. > Peter This was discussed not long ago on the list. Please search the archives. Some pedals were recommended but I cannot recall any details. Best wishes Per Boysen ________________ http://loopboy.tk www.boysen.se www.upsweden.com www.fuzz.se From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 14:48:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11048; Mon, 13 May 2002 14:46:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:46:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE009B6.6AE9CF1C@zerocrossing.net> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:45:11 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have. References: <20020513125048.86948.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On the other hand, sometimes you have gear that doesn't quite do what you want it to. For instance, I've always been very into synthesis, but not keyboard playing. I've always just liked the guitar as my main sound making interface. Get a guitar synth, right? Sure. Money being an issue, I ended up with a GR-30. At the time they were being blown out due to the GR-33. For a long time I thought, "Huh, this think kind of sucks in the sound dept." I blamed myself for not spending enough time getting into it and tweaking the sounds. I resisted getting another sounds source because I thought I had to "learn to use the gear I have." Well, I finally learned that the GR-30's sounds (IMO) SUCK. No amount of knowledge about how to tweak that box is going to make it what I wanted. This seems to be a pitfall of modern gear. It comes with presets. They can be good or bad. Sometimes, bad, but with great potential. Sometimes bad with no potential. How do you know? My knee jerk reaction is to blame myself, as how could an old and respected manufacturer put out anything less than stellar? Most synth manufacturers are making "ROMplers" where there isn't very much tweakability in the sound, not compared with analog (or analog modeled) synths. My advise is that with modern gear, if the presets aren't doing it for you, don't waste your time with a piece of gear. Anyway, the end of the story is, I did some more shopping and ended up purchasing a dedicated synth module. Ironically, I went with another Roland product, the VX-5050. Straight out of the box, I found a ton of very usable sounds, and most of my tweaking involved setting the pitch bend of each patch I liked to match the pitch bend of the GR-30 and getting the effects synched to my midi clock (having no way to globally do this sure did suck!) The end result of all this is that I'm SO much happier with my setup. My wife instantly remarked at how much better the overall sound was, and she tend to be very critical in this department. So the lesson learned? I'm not sure there is one, but beware for poorly designed gear. Since quality of sounds is totally subjective, be prepared to hunt for your tools. Be prepared to make some mistakes. Be prepared to evolve. Most importantly, be prepared to give up on a piece of gear that's too complex to do what you want easily. If a piece of gear is so hard to figure out, maybe it's not worth it. Someone once gave me a Brother (right, the word processor company) MIDI sequencer. It had tons of features, but was a disaster in UI design. I spent HOURS and HOURS trying to make what should have taken minutes. Again, I blamed myself. When I purchased my Ensoniq TS-10, I realized that it wasn't me, it was the gear. Even though it had the features I wanted, it was unusable. The TS-10 was a dream to use. I was very quickly doing exactly what I wanted. Sometimes a design flaw can be exploited to make great music. Sometimes, it's just a pain in the ass. Mark Sottilaro Pedro Felix wrote: > snips > --- Evan Meyers wrote: > > > > > > > > agreed, and not only that, but a concept i've posed > > to> the group in the past. be careful though, some > > folks> are touchy about what the gear is used for > whether> it> be for show or actually for making music > or better> yet, sounds (i don't think that the word > sound can> be> interpretted nearly as much as the word > music, so i> think it is safe to write it)...i'm still > impressed> by > > the lights and nobs though, and don't forget > > switches, > > gotta have switches! > > > > Evan, et al. - > > most of us (all of us?) don't like to think we're on > the wrong road, thus the touchiness. > but ya know I agree with you. > If someone has talent then their gear will not get in > the way, and if they are lacking in that regard, well > their gear won't hide it either. > > best, Pedro > > hey, did you get to Chama on Sat.? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 15:03:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13566; Mon, 13 May 2002 15:02:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:02:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020513190216.85831.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 12:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Richards Subject: My music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200205111230.IAA09593@hemlock.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I'm making my first tenative steps towards making my music available to the public. I've finally hooked my tape decks back up to the stereo, so I'm able to make tape dubs of the various recordings I've done so far. I'm dubbing tapes to pass around to friends and a few college/public radio affiliated individuals who have expressed interest in what I'm doing. While I don't really consider the recordings I've made so far to be "definitive", in terms of what I can and/or want to do, I think it's time that I make some efforts towards raising my public profile, as it were. I would tend to think of what I'm doing now as "bedroom demos" more so than the actual "album" that I plan to record in the near future (as soon as I get some kind of multi track gear...still haven't made up my mind if I want a four track, or if I should go ahead and spring for one of those digital 8 or 16 track machines they have at Sam Ash). Anyway, the reason I'm posting this hear is, if anyone is interested in hearing what I'm doing, please e-mail me off list, and perhaps we can make arrangements in that direction. I'm not sure what to charge, but I'm thinking it can't be much more than 2 or 3 bucks, since I'm just making tapes using my home stereo (and hence, the quality won't be audiophile, as such), and the packaging will be pretty bare bones (ie no real artwork). ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris "What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?"-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 15:06:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13996; Mon, 13 May 2002 15:05:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:05:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WM-Posted-At: mail.revenue.state.il.us; Mon, 13 May 02 14:13:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.1 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:04:58 -0500 From: "KEVIN SIMONSON" To: Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nice Anecdote, Mark. My own experience with the whole gear vs. proficiency thread came into vivid focus upon purchasing a Stick. I removed my technical foundation (guitar) by switching instruments, and the processing that I still owned seemed unnecessary or even "dangerous" because it could interfere with the establishment of a new foundation, or voice if you will - on a different instrument. Now that I've begun to discover/formulate a voice/approach on the instrument, my thoughts are drifting back toward processing options and issues again, including looping. Once my confidence level improves to a point where I consider myself fairly reliable on the Stick, I'll try to throw looping into the mix and see what comes out. I dink around with all of the blinkenlichten aglow - sure, but I try to limit my discovery fronts to one area. *For me*, significant improvements in one area provide more momentum than many smaller improvements. The sustaining of momentum and focus are major issues in my musical life. So my advice for anyone who wishes a direct experience with this issue is to buy a Stick ;) -K >>> sine@zerocrossing.net 05/13/02 01:45PM >>> On the other hand, sometimes you have gear that doesn't quite do what you want it to. For instance, I've always been very into synthesis, but not keyboard playing. I've always just liked the guitar as my main sound making interface. Get a guitar synth, right? Sure. Money being an issue, I ended up with a GR-30. At the time they were being blown out due to the GR-33. For a long time I thought, "Huh, this think kind of sucks in the sound dept." I blamed myself for not spending enough time getting into it and tweaking the sounds. I resisted getting another sounds source because I thought I had to "learn to use the gear I have." Well, I finally learned that the GR-30's sounds (IMO) SUCK. No amount of knowledge about how to tweak that box is going to make it what I wanted. This seems to be a pitfall of modern gear. It comes with presets. They can be good or bad. Sometimes, bad, but with great potential. Sometimes bad with no potential. How do you know? My knee jerk reaction is to blame myself, as how could an old and respected manufacturer put out anything less than stellar? Most synth manufacturers are making "ROMplers" where there isn't very much tweakability in the sound, not compared with analog (or analog modeled) synths. My advise is that with modern gear, if the presets aren't doing it for you, don't waste your time with a piece of gear. Anyway, the end of the story is, I did some more shopping and ended up purchasing a dedicated synth module. Ironically, I went with another Roland product, the VX-5050. Straight out of the box, I found a ton of very usable sounds, and most of my tweaking involved setting the pitch bend of each patch I liked to match the pitch bend of the GR-30 and getting the effects synched to my midi clock (having no way to globally do this sure did suck!) The end result of all this is that I'm SO much happier with my setup. My wife instantly remarked at how much better the overall sound was, and she tend to be very critical in this department. So the lesson learned? I'm not sure there is one, but beware for poorly designed gear. Since quality of sounds is totally subjective, be prepared to hunt for your tools. Be prepared to make some mistakes. Be prepared to evolve. Most importantly, be prepared to give up on a piece of gear that's too complex to do what you want easily. If a piece of gear is so hard to figure out, maybe it's not worth it. Someone once gave me a Brother (right, the word processor company) MIDI sequencer. It had tons of features, but was a disaster in UI design. I spent HOURS and HOURS trying to make what should have taken minutes. Again, I blamed myself. When I purchased my Ensoniq TS-10, I realized that it wasn't me, it was the gear. Even though it had the features I wanted, it was unusable. The TS-10 was a dream to use. I was very quickly doing exactly what I wanted. Sometimes a design flaw can be exploited to make great music. Sometimes, it's just a pain in the ass. Mark Sottilaro Pedro Felix wrote: > snips > --- Evan Meyers wrote: > > > > > > > > agreed, and not only that, but a concept i've posed > > to> the group in the past. be careful though, some > > folks> are touchy about what the gear is used for > whether> it> be for show or actually for making music > or better> yet, sounds (i don't think that the word > sound can> be> interpretted nearly as much as the word > music, so i> think it is safe to write it)...i'm still > impressed> by > > the lights and nobs though, and don't forget > > switches, > > gotta have switches! > > > > Evan, et al. - > > most of us (all of us?) don't like to think we're on > the wrong road, thus the touchiness. > but ya know I agree with you. > If someone has talent then their gear will not get in > the way, and if they are lacking in that regard, well > their gear won't hide it either. > > best, Pedro > > hey, did you get to Chama on Sat.? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 15:40:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16664; Mon, 13 May 2002 15:37:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:37:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: paul@brainvirus.org Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:37:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3CBB5DA90001C19A@mta08.san.yahoo.com> Subject: simple sampler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id PAA16603 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello- I'm looking for a simple footswitch-triggered sampler for use in a band. We don't have a dedicated person, so it would be great to be able to trigger samples by footswitch; ideally one click would be sample one, another switch would trigger sample two, etc. Any machines out there that fit this bill? Thanks Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 16:02:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19170; Mon, 13 May 2002 16:01:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:01:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE01B54.EF542510@zerocrossing.net> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:00:21 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: simple sampler References: <3CBB5DA90001C19A@mta08.san.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Something like the Boss Dr. Sample (SP-303) would work with a footpedal like the Behringer FCP1010. I just sold on on eBay for $247. You might even find the SP-202 for less, and it could do the trick. paul@brainvirus.org wrote: > Hello- > > I'm looking for a simple footswitch-triggered sampler for use in a band. > We don't have a dedicated person, so it would be great to be able to trigger > samples by footswitch; ideally one click would be sample one, another switch > would trigger sample two, etc. > > Any machines out there that fit this bill? > > Thanks > Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 16:02:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19243; Mon, 13 May 2002 16:01:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:01:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020513125324.00a0a5c0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 12:56:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Heasley Subject: Re: Fwd: Heasley On Echoes In-Reply-To: References: < <5.1.0.14.2.20020506113035.0308aec0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_2691586==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_2691586==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:50 PM 5/6/02, you wrote: >Great set at the Rio the other night, Tom. Really beautifull soundscapes >you were creating, great work from Dana as well. The visuals behind you >were very supportive of your music and very hypnotic. thanks for the >inspiration. >Bill Walker Thanks, Bill. Your wife Nancy's performance was also quite elegant and engaging. Tom --=====================_2691586==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 06:50 PM 5/6/02, you wrote:
Great set at the Rio the other night, Tom. Really beautifull soundscapes
you were creating, great work from Dana as well. The visuals behind you
were very supportive of your music and very hypnotic. thanks for the
inspiration.
Bill Walker

Thanks, Bill.  Your wife Nancy's performance was also quite elegant and engaging.

Tom --=====================_2691586==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 16:09:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20081; Mon, 13 May 2002 16:08:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:08:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c1fad4$b876f8e0$39031342@waldo> From: "deknow" To: References: <3CBB5DA90001C19A@mta08.san.yahoo.com> <3CE01B54.EF542510@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: simple sampler Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:18:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the other good option to a footpedal, is to get superballs (the small, bouncy ones), cut them in half, and glue them to the sampler buttons...makes it easy to trigger via foot. deknow ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Sottilaro To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Re: simple sampler > Something like the Boss Dr. Sample (SP-303) would work with a footpedal like > the Behringer FCP1010. I just sold on on eBay for $247. You might even find > the SP-202 for less, and it could do the trick. > > paul@brainvirus.org wrote: > > > Hello- > > > > I'm looking for a simple footswitch-triggered sampler for use in a band. > > We don't have a dedicated person, so it would be great to be able to trigger > > samples by footswitch; ideally one click would be sample one, another switch > > would trigger sample two, etc. > > > > Any machines out there that fit this bill? > > > > Thanks > > Paul > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 16:14:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20705; Mon, 13 May 2002 16:13:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:13:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: paul@brainvirus.org Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:12:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3CBB5DA90001C2B6@mta08.san.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <000f01c1fad4$b876f8e0$39031342@waldo> Subject: Re: simple sampler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id QAA20636 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ahhhh....verrry clever idea! I've just seen a lot of very inexpensive samplers around (most notable Gemini) and the footswitch adaptability is about the only hurdle I have to overcome- Thanks Paul > > >the other good option to a footpedal, is to get superballs (the small, >bouncy ones), cut them in half, and glue them to the sampler buttons...makes >it easy to trigger via foot. > >deknow From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 16:18:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21259; Mon, 13 May 2002 16:17:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:17:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE01F1F.5ABE11CB@zerocrossing.net> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:16:32 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: simple sampler References: <3CBB5DA90001C19A@mta08.san.yahoo.com> <3CE01B54.EF542510@zerocrossing.net> <000f01c1fad4$b876f8e0$39031342@waldo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Or I once found these semi-spherical black rubber washers that fit on a Digitech RPS8000 knob that allowed me to tweak the knob with my foot as I played. deknow wrote: > the other good option to a footpedal, is to get superballs (the small, > bouncy ones), cut them in half, and glue them to the sampler buttons...makes > it easy to trigger via foot. > > deknow > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Sottilaro > To: > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: simple sampler > > > Something like the Boss Dr. Sample (SP-303) would work with a footpedal > like > > the Behringer FCP1010. I just sold on on eBay for $247. You might even > find > > the SP-202 for less, and it could do the trick. > > > > paul@brainvirus.org wrote: > > > > > Hello- > > > > > > I'm looking for a simple footswitch-triggered sampler for use in a band. > > > We don't have a dedicated person, so it would be great to be able to > trigger > > > samples by footswitch; ideally one click would be sample one, another > switch > > > would trigger sample two, etc. > > > > > > Any machines out there that fit this bill? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Paul > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 18:34:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31538; Mon, 13 May 2002 18:33:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:33:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008f01c1fa9b$aeea2560$08f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <00a301c1fa87$c14ecb20$080210ac@jpalmer> Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:11:40 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <4uTJqB.A.rrH.c8D48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 18:34:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31536; Mon, 13 May 2002 18:33:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:33:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009001c1fa9b$af8490a0$08f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: Re: feedback pedal for the Echoplex? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:14:44 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i'm not sure you can find something more "simple" than a volume pedal, regardless of make and manufacture. plus, the boss units are pretty cheap on ebay (less than 40 bucks). if you decide you don't want to use it as an echoplex pedal, you'll still have a nice stereo volume pedal (although i prefer e.b. for volume needs). check rolandus.com and browse, but i think you should abide by kim's suggestion. you could always build your own, but that sounds like more trouble than it's worth considering the cost of used volume pedals. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 18:53:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00321; Mon, 13 May 2002 18:52:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:52:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:51:28 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <016c01c1fad0$b9a897e0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <00a301c1fa87$c14ecb20$080210ac@jpalmer> <008f01c1fa9b$aeea2560$08f8c440@g0wn7> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not translate to the middle of the control range. in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default), the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64... in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper pot with a linear taper pot... > i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll > have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. > > -jim > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 18:58:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00689; Mon, 13 May 2002 18:57:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:57:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CBEA@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" Subject: someone had been looking for something like this Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:57:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1FAD1.91E92890" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FAD1.91E92890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hi, semi-ot. someone had been looking for moog taurus pedals a while back. i just ran into this ad. *** this is not me, contact person in the ad** FOR SALE: MOOG TAURUS PEDALS Posted: : 05/13/2002 Category: Bass Accessory Condition: Excellent Age: 15 Years Asking Price: $1295 Original Series "1" MOOG Taurus Pedals. 100% original synthesizer foot pedals in perfect working condition. Includes Anvil-style road case. $1295. Pics available. FULL NAME: randy Fields PHONE: please email first CITY, STATE: wichita KS 67213 EMAIL: MrRandyF@hotmail.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FAD1.91E92890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable someone had been looking for something like this

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i just ran into this ad.

*** this is not me, contact person in the ad**

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Posted: : 05/13/2002
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Condition: Excellent
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Asking Price: $1295

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FAD1.91E92890-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 20:34:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07287; Mon, 13 May 2002 20:33:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:33:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 19:39:05 -0500 Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access From: Peter Einhorn To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <016c01c1fad0$b9a897e0$080210ac@jpalmer> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6jQ5qC.A.fxB.TtF48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I ordered a' Proel Internal Ctrl Mono/Stereo Kybrd Volume Pedal' 20k ohm. Could't find out about audio or linear taper. Guess I'll find out. Thx for help! -peter > you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you > get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not > translate to the middle of the control range. > in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default), > the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64... > in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper > pot with a linear taper pot... > >> i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll >> have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. >> >> -jim >> >> > > My email will soon be ONLY petereinhorn@mac.com Please update your address book. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 21:14:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10204; Mon, 13 May 2002 21:13:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 21:13:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JIMFOWLER@prodigy.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 21:12:58 -0500 Subject: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com any suggestions for a nice rackmount parametric eq...mono, one unit space...for post preamp equalization in ye olde guitar rack. thanks. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 22:07:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA13532; Mon, 13 May 2002 22:06:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:06:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.205.196.2] From: "Chris Olden" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 02:05:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2002 02:05:01.0938 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1D62520:01C1FAEB] Resent-Message-ID: <8wyISC.A.sSD.tDH48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Jim, Try a Furman PQ-3; I've heard mucho good things about 'em. The bass player in a band I was in used one in his rack and swore by it. Chris Olden >any suggestions for a nice rackmount parametric >eq...mono, one unit space...for post preamp >equalization in ye olde guitar rack. > >thanks. > >-jim > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 22:19:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14212; Mon, 13 May 2002 22:18:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:18:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020513190209.00b2eb70@pop.charter.net> X-Sender: armatronix@pop.charter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 19:17:19 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: armatronix Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access In-Reply-To: <016c01c1fad0$b9a897e0$080210ac@jpalmer> References: <00a301c1fa87$c14ecb20$080210ac@jpalmer> <008f01c1fa9b$aeea2560$08f8c440@g0wn7> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Ernie Ball 25K Stereo pedal #6167 costs a slightly more but has linear taper pots. -Hans Lindauer -hans@ernieball.com ;) At 15:51 13/05/2002, you wrote: >you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you >get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not >translate to the middle of the control range. >in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default), >the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64... >in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper >pot with a linear taper pot... > > > i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll > > have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. > > > > -jim > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 13 22:55:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA16029; Mon, 13 May 2002 22:54:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:54:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 19:53:22 -0800 Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access From: Stan Card To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020513190209.00b2eb70@pop.charter.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeah i love it and swear by it-well, really in back of it. s > The Ernie Ball 25K Stereo pedal #6167 costs a slightly more but has linear > taper pots. > > -Hans Lindauer > -hans@ernieball.com ;) > > > At 15:51 13/05/2002, you wrote: >> you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you >> get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not >> translate to the middle of the control range. >> in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default), >> the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64... >> in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper >> pot with a linear taper pot... >> >>> i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll >>> have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. >>> >>> -jim >>> >>> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 03:08:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA31335; Tue, 14 May 2002 03:06:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 03:06:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 00:06:00 -0700 Subject: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0BC9713B-6709-11D6-8C26-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I tell ya, all this talk about learning to use the gear you have is starting to make me a little sick. So here's my deal. I'm looking for the "perfect" processor to put in the stereo effects loop of my Repeater. Since I know "perfect" doesn't exist, I'll settle for less. I'm thinking of the Lexicon MPX500. Anyone with experience with that baby? Here's some of what I'd like to see: Stereo ins and outs a must. Line level operation a must. (getting the levels right for the Vortex was a bitch) MIDI synchable effects. I really liked the Lexicon Vortex for synched effects, but having to deal with that tap tempo all the time drove me nuts. Need to keep my hands on my guitar! Some good meat and potato effects and some wacky stuff. Ping Ponging delays of maddness. Nice sweep filters. A SINGLE rack space. (it's all I have left and I will not go back to two racks!) Good sound quality. Hell, it's replacing a Digitech DSP128, so if it's as good or better than that I'm set. I guess my priorities lie with loop *manglege* So that's it. I've had thoughts about waiting for the KAOSS pad II (anyone have an inkling as to when this is going to be released?), but would like to keep it in the rack as much as I can. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 11:27:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30690; Tue, 14 May 2002 11:26:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:26:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE12D0F.6E99D1F4@friendlyspider.com> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 10:28:17 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New Portable Multitrack... References: <0BC9713B-6709-11D6-8C26-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anyone got a hold of a Zoom MRS-4 4 track recorder ? It's their newer portable guy that uses compact flash media. They look like a super deal at $230 online....but they record at 32kHz, 20 bit encoding.... (I don't know how many bits the audio is actually stored as) But besides the 4 tracks there are 8 virtual tracks per track, it syncs to MIDI and it comes with software to transfer audio to a Mac or PC. You can also set up markers and do A-B looping. (To keep OT) (as well as auto punch-in) I can't find any reviews yet...but it is on the shelf. Yeah....I still have a lot to learn with my old gear.... like my Chroma Polaris, DSS1, DSM, Matrix 6, TX, DX, QV, JamMan.... (anybody got patches to swap?) But none of my old technology will let me hike into the woods and record multitrack in an abandoned mine..... -- gary @friendlyspider.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 11:59:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00899; Tue, 14 May 2002 11:58:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:58:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:57:50 -0400 Subject: Time-code sync issues...(help!!) From: todd reynolds To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Two quick questions... If y'all would indulge... 1. Is there a controller number or note number for Start Point which I could send from MAX/MSP? And the same for changing 8th/beat on the fly? 2. Is anyone else using Time Code to drive their Obie from a computer? I'm having a REAL tough time resolving syncing issues... There is drift, not exact record triggering, yada yada... Any advice or known difficulties would be appreciated... Thanks all... todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 12:08:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02934; Tue, 14 May 2002 12:06:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:06:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:06:36 -0700 From: andrew pask Subject: Re: Time-code sync issues...(help!!) In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.5.1 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On 5/14/02 at 11:57 AM, toddreynolds@rcn.com (todd reynolds) wrote: > Two quick questions... If y'all would indulge... > > 1. Is there a controller number or note number for Start Point which I > could send from MAX/MSP? And the same for changing 8th/beat on the fly? > > 2. Is anyone else using Time Code to drive their Obie from a computer? I'm > having a REAL tough time resolving syncing issues... There is drift, not > exact record triggering, yada yada... Any advice or known difficulties > would be appreciated... > > Thanks all... > > todd Maybe Dr Zvonar will be able to sort this out, isn't 250 the raw MIDI number for start? Try the example ".phasor~-to-midi sync" in the MAX/MSP examples. Sorry I don't know anything about the Obie. Apart from that, if you're trying to get accurate MIDI sync going from OMS, be prepared for a fairly underwhelming experience. Cheers Andrew From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 12:13:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03180; Tue, 14 May 2002 12:07:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:07:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01b101c1fb61$55f89b00$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <001d01c1f114$afffc760$0749dd0c@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: RC-20 review Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:06:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Re: RC-20 review----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Smart To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: Re: RC-20 review > Like I was saying in my intro note...I like the RC-20 and use two of 'em! > The only other looping device I've used is the Oberheim Echoplex, so > that's the only thing I can compare it to. I'd say that function-wise, two > cascaded RC-20s are > almost as cool as an Echoplex (and still cheaper), > because you can do the multiply function. I also like to use one RC-20 to > record a background for the head of the tune, and the second to record a > background for soloing over, then go back to the head background at the > end (this is good for Monk's Dream, with a stop-time background on the > head). I THINK you can do this on the Echoplex using the Next Loop pedal, > although I never figured out how when I was borrowing one. (Re-opening an old topic...) I'm building an RC-20 emulation with my Looper Construction Kit for Kyma. I figure I can simultaneously emulate 4 to 9 RC-20s on a 4 DSP Kyma. They can be interconnected in any fashion (series or parallel). I'll know more as I get into it. I don't have a real RC-20 so I have to do this from the manual description. I'll probably make several RC-20 emulations or at least a full-featured one and an "RC-20 Lite" that is less filling and with fewer calories. In the meantime, my question to you multiple RC-20 owners is, "What features do you use?" and conversely, "What features do you NOT use?" Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 12:29:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04256; Tue, 14 May 2002 12:27:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:27:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01bc01c1fb64$189824d0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: Time-code sync issues...(help!!) Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:26:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > 1. Is there a controller number or note number for Start Point which I > could send from MAX/MSP? And the same for changing 8th/beat on the fly? Remember that anything that you can adjust via the front panel buttons is also accessable via MIDI. But it requires several MIDI messages. So to access Start Point from MIDI, send the same sequence as 1) one press/release of Parameter 2) one press/release of Next Loop (now functioning as Start Point) 3) one long press/release of Parameter (to return to normal mode) OR four short press/releases You can record this sequence and replay it or capture it with a "MIDI Sniffer" program like MIDI-OX et al but basically, it is a series of NoteOn/Off commands (or CC commands depending on the ControlSource value). > 2. Is anyone else using Time Code to drive their Obie from a computer? I'm > having a REAL tough time resolving syncing issues... There is drift, not > exact record triggering, yada yada... Any advice or known difficulties > would be appreciated... I've used MIDI Sync (the one byte MIDI timing clock message) with good results. But in my case, Kyma is generating the MIDI Sync. Do you have a way to check the stability of your MIDI sync? Even with the dedicated processors in Kyma, I observe a bit of jitter. I'd expect quite a bit more with a regular computer. If you have a drum machine try making a metronome driven by the MIDI from MAX/MSP. Then listen for jitter and drift. Hope this helps... And remember the mantra, "All this is easier in Loop IV!" Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 12:42:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05112; Tue, 14 May 2002 12:41:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:41:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020514093446.0212f158@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:36:43 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Time-code sync issues...(help!!) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 08:57 AM 5/14/2002, todd reynolds wrote: >Two quick questions... If y'all would indulge... > >1. Is there a controller number or note number for Start Point which I >could send from MAX/MSP? And the same for changing 8th/beat on the fly? such things are coming in the new LoopIV software, about to be released.... >2. Is anyone else using Time Code to drive their Obie from a computer? I'm >having a REAL tough time resolving syncing issues... There is drift, not >exact record triggering, yada yada... Any advice or known difficulties >would be appreciated... for starters, make sure you are using MIDI clock instead of MIDI time code. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 13:01:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07208; Tue, 14 May 2002 13:00:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:00:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: myoder@dusty.tamiu.edu Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:59:04 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Yoder Subject: Fwd: New Portable Multitrack... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > >Anyone got a hold of a Zoom MRS-4 4 track recorder ? >It's their newer portable guy that uses compact flash media. >it syncs to MIDI and it comes with >software to transfer audio to a Mac or PC. You can also set >up markers and do A-B looping. >gary Wow, I guess the question is: would the looping have any time glitch, or would it be smooth (seamless)? If no glitch, this could indeed be a useful tool! Anybody tried one out? Thanks. Michael -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Michael S. Yoder, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Geography and Urban Studies Texas A&M International University Department of Social Sciences 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 (956) 326-2634 FAX (956) 326-2459 http://www.tamiu.edu/~myoder/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 13:31:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08536; Tue, 14 May 2002 13:30:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:30:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 10:27:09 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Time-code sync issues...(help!!) In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On 5/14/02 at 11:57 AM, toddreynolds@rcn.com (todd reynolds) wrote: > > 1. Is there a controller number or note number for Start Point which I > > could send from MAX/MSP? And the same for changing 8th/beat on the fly? At 9:06 AM -0700 5/14/02, andrew pask wrote: > >Maybe Dr Zvonar will be able to sort this out, isn't 250 the raw >MIDI number for start? Correct. Start = 250 decimal, FA Hex, 11111010 binary Here's the whole MIDI spec: CHANNEL VOICE MESSAGES ====================== 1000nnnn 8N 128-143 0kkkkkkk Note Off event 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv: note off velocity 1001nnnn 9N 144-159 0kkkkkkk Note On event (middle C = 60) 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv: note on velocity 1010nnnn AN 160-175 0kkkkkkk Polyphonic key pressure/after touch 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv: pressure value 1011nnnn BN 176-191 0ccccccc Control Change 0vvvvvvv ccccccc: control #(0-121) vvvvvvv: control value 0-31 continuous MSB, 32-63 LSB 64-95 switches, 96-121 undefined ccccccc: 122-127 reserved 1100nnnn CN 192-207 0ppppppp Program Change ppppppp: program number (0-127) 1101nnnn DN 208-223 0vvvvvvv Channel pressure/after touch vvvvvvv: pressure value 1110nnnn EN 224-239 0vvvvvvv Pitch wheel change LSB 0vvvvvvv Pitch wheel change MSB CHANNEL MODE MESSAGES ===================== 1011nnnn BN 176-191 0ccccccc Selects Channel Mode 0vvvvvvv ccccccc = 122: Local Control vvvvvvv = 0: Local Control OFF vvvvvvv = 127: Local Control ON ccccccc = 123: All Notes OFF vvvvvvv = 0 ccccccc = 124: Omni Mode OFF (All Notes OFF) vvvvvvv = 0: ccccccc = 125: Omni Mode ON (All Notes OFF) vvvvvvv = 0 ccccccc = 126: Mono Mode ON (Poly Mode OFF, All Notes OFF) vvvvvvv = M (M=number of channels) vvvvvvv = 0 (number of channels = number of voices in receiver) ccccccc = 127: Poly Mode ON (All Notes OFF) vvvvvvv = 0 SYSTEM COMMON MESSAGES ====================== 11110000 F0 240 Start of System Exclusive 11110001 F1 241 MTC Quarter Frame 11110010 F2 242 Song Position Pointer 0lllllll lllllll: LSB 0hhhhhhh hhhhhhh: MSB 11110011 F3 243 0sssssss Song Select sssssss: Song # 11110100 F4 244 Undefined 11110101 F5 245 Undefined 11110110 F6 246 Tune Request 11110111 F7 247 End of System Exclusive SYSTEM REAL TIME MESSAGES ========================= 11111000 F8 248 Timing Clock 11111001 F9 249 Undefined 11111010 FA 250 Start 11111011 FB 251 Continue 11111100 FC 252 Stop 11111101 FD 253 Undefined 11111110 FE 254 Active Sensing 11111111 FF 255 System Reset -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 14:10:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11456; Tue, 14 May 2002 14:09:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:09:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:08:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB72.51757420" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB72.51757420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've used the Sherman Filterbank 2 for about 4 months now. Hard to beat for sheer sonic destruction. Actually a nice complement to the MPX500 since the 500 has more traditional effects and the Sherman is just nutty (it doesn't get nice). Ben -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:06 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? I tell ya, all this talk about learning to use the gear you have is starting to make me a little sick. So here's my deal. I'm looking for the "perfect" processor to put in the stereo effects loop of my Repeater. Since I know "perfect" doesn't exist, I'll settle for less. I'm thinking of the Lexicon MPX500. Anyone with experience with that baby? Here's some of what I'd like to see: Stereo ins and outs a must. Line level operation a must. (getting the levels right for the Vortex was a bitch) MIDI synchable effects. I really liked the Lexicon Vortex for synched effects, but having to deal with that tap tempo all the time drove me nuts. Need to keep my hands on my guitar! Some good meat and potato effects and some wacky stuff. Ping Ponging delays of maddness. Nice sweep filters. A SINGLE rack space. (it's all I have left and I will not go back to two racks!) Good sound quality. Hell, it's replacing a Digitech DSP128, so if it's as good or better than that I'm set. I guess my priorities lie with loop *manglege* So that's it. I've had thoughts about waiting for the KAOSS pad II (anyone have an inkling as to when this is going to be released?), but would like to keep it in the rack as much as I can. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB72.51757420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Lexicon MPX500=3Dgood loop mangler?

I've used the Sherman Filterbank 2 for about 4 months = now. Hard to beat for sheer sonic destruction. Actually a nice = complement to the MPX500 since the 500 has more traditional effects and = the Sherman is just nutty (it doesn't get nice).

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net]<= /FONT>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:06 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Lexicon MPX500=3Dgood loop mangler?


I tell ya, all this talk about learning to use the = gear you have is
starting to make me a little sick.

So here's my deal.  I'm looking for the = "perfect" processor to put in
the stereo effects loop of my Repeater.  Since = I know "perfect" doesn't
exist, I'll settle for less.  I'm thinking of = the Lexicon MPX500. 
Anyone with experience with that baby?

Here's some of what I'd like to see:

Stereo ins and outs a must.

Line level operation a must.  (getting the = levels right for the Vortex
was a bitch)

MIDI synchable effects.  I really liked the = Lexicon Vortex for synched
effects, but having to deal with that tap tempo all = the time drove me
nuts.  Need to keep my hands on my = guitar!

Some good meat and potato effects and some wacky = stuff.  Ping Ponging
delays of maddness.  Nice sweep filters.

A SINGLE rack space.  (it's all I have left and = I will not go back to
two racks!)

Good sound quality.  Hell, it's replacing a = Digitech DSP128, so if it's
as good or better than that I'm set.  I guess = my priorities lie with
loop *manglege*

So that's it.  I've had thoughts about waiting = for the KAOSS pad II
(anyone have an inkling as to when this is going to = be released?), but
would like to keep it in the rack as much as I = can.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB72.51757420-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 14:12:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11639; Tue, 14 May 2002 14:11:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:11:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: expression pedal with all access Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:10:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB72.9D428370" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB72.9D428370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Parts Express has replacement linear pots for about $4. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:39 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access I ordered a' Proel Internal Ctrl Mono/Stereo Kybrd Volume Pedal' 20k ohm. Could't find out about audio or linear taper. Guess I'll find out. Thx for help! -peter > you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you > get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not > translate to the middle of the control range. > in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default), > the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64... > in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper > pot with a linear taper pot... > >> i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll >> have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. >> >> -jim >> >> > > My email will soon be ONLY petereinhorn@mac.com Please update your address book. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB72.9D428370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: expression pedal with all access

Parts Express has replacement linear pots for about $4.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com]
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:39 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access


I ordered a' Proel Internal Ctrl Mono/Stereo Kybrd Volume Pedal' 20k ohm.
Could't find out about audio or linear taper. Guess I'll find out. Thx for
help!

-peter


> you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you
> get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not
> translate to the middle of the control range.
> in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default),
> the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64...
> in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper
> pot with a linear taper pot...
>
>> i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll
>> have to build a special cable for it...we'll see.
>>
>> -jim
>>
>>
>
>

My email will soon be ONLY   petereinhorn@mac.com
Please update your address book.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB72.9D428370-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 14:19:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12350; Tue, 14 May 2002 14:18:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:18:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Sherman Filterbank Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:17:26 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2002 18:17:27.0296 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A614000:01C1FB73] Resent-Message-ID: <-aZKqD.A.bAD.WTV48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anyone know if they are still making the Sherman Filterbank ? Thanks Lou _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 14:30:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12995; Tue, 14 May 2002 14:29:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:29:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020514182843.75151.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com snips~ Jim - TC 1140 Rocktron Pro Q best regards, Pedro Felix NYC 2002 --- JIMFOWLER@prodigy.net wrote: > any suggestions for a nice rackmount parametric > eq...mono, one unit space...for post preamp > equalization in ye olde guitar rack. > > thanks. > > -jim > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 14:42:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13953; Tue, 14 May 2002 14:41:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:41:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: Subject: RE: Sherman Filterbank Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:37:28 -0400 Message-ID: <001601c1fb76$66ab7570$660a230a@melon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com dunno, but i think www.zzounds.com still has some. -----Original Message----- From: Louis Rossi [mailto:tarbit@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:17 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Sherman Filterbank Does anyone know if they are still making the Sherman Filterbank ? Thanks Lou _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 14:43:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14220; Tue, 14 May 2002 14:42:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:42:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:41:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2002 18:41:46.0133 (UTC) FILETIME=[FFEA1C50:01C1FB76] Resent-Message-ID: <2QZYfB.A.GdD.IqV48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Jim FYI, I spotted a TC1140 used at: http://www.broadway-music.com/catg/FXEQ.html It's a good piece & in the past I've seen one in Alan Holdsworth's rack & Fripp use to have the former stereo version too. I love my TC Sustain EQ petal for the NS Stick :) Cheers. LOU >From: Pedro Felix >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:28:43 -0700 (PDT) > >snips~ > >Jim - > >TC 1140 >Rocktron Pro Q _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 15:14:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16721; Tue, 14 May 2002 15:13:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:13:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE16194.B467989@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:12:21 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com That goes away from my dream of keeping it in a single rack space, but it does bring up a good point. Would a filter box, like the Line6 pro be "more bang for the buck"? Would I miss the reverbs? I'm using the DSP128 exclusivly for a very long 100% wet reverb, for when things need to get DEEP. I guess I'm kind of asking for the mpx500 and a filter modeler in one single rack space box, and I'm probably not going to get it. Mark "Reid, Benjamin" wrote: > > > I've used the Sherman Filterbank 2 for about 4 months now. Hard to > beat for sheer sonic destruction. Actually a nice complement to the > MPX500 since the 500 has more traditional effects and the Sherman is > just nutty (it doesn't get nice). > > Ben > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:06 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? > > I tell ya, all this talk about learning to use the gear you have is > starting to make me a little sick. > > So here's my deal. I'm looking for the "perfect" processor to put in > the stereo effects loop of my Repeater. Since I know "perfect" > doesn't > exist, I'll settle for less. I'm thinking of the Lexicon MPX500. > Anyone with experience with that baby? > > Here's some of what I'd like to see: > > Stereo ins and outs a must. > > Line level operation a must. (getting the levels right for the Vortex > > was a bitch) > > MIDI synchable effects. I really liked the Lexicon Vortex for synched > > effects, but having to deal with that tap tempo all the time drove me > nuts. Need to keep my hands on my guitar! > > Some good meat and potato effects and some wacky stuff. Ping Ponging > delays of maddness. Nice sweep filters. > > A SINGLE rack space. (it's all I have left and I will not go back to > two racks!) > > Good sound quality. Hell, it's replacing a Digitech DSP128, so if > it's > as good or better than that I'm set. I guess my priorities lie with > loop *manglege* > > So that's it. I've had thoughts about waiting for the KAOSS pad II > (anyone have an inkling as to when this is going to be released?), but > > would like to keep it in the rack as much as I can. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 15:28:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21232; Tue, 14 May 2002 15:28:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:28:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020514121712.0337fec0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:22:15 -0700 To: Loopers Delight - List From: Tom Heasley Subject: 2 SF GIGS / NEW CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_3923135==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_3923135==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello, I will be performing my music this Friday in celebration of my second solo CD, which hits the stores today. Music for tuba, didjeridu, throat singing, live processing and looping/sampling. Please come to this rare full-length bay area performance, enjoy the Meyer sound system (left and right sub-woofers!) and judge for yourself. CD Release Concert Friday, May 17, 2002, 8:15 P.M. Noe Valley Ministry 1021 Sanchez St. at 23rd St. San Francisco, CA Info/Reservations: 415.282.2317 OR nvmin@mindspring.com www.noevalleyministry.org Tickets at the door: $10.00 Tom Heasley NEW CD AVAILABLE (in stores May 14): On the Sensations of Tone, (www.innova.mu) ALSO AVAILABLE: Where the Earth Meets the Sky, (www.hypnos.com) http://bayimproviser.com/TomHeasley 427 Alma St., Suite 206 Palo Alto, CA 94301 P: 650.322.3633 F: 419.831.3809 E: tom@tomheasley.com WEBSITE COMING SOON: TOMHEASLEY.COM Upcoming Solo Concerts: Saturday, May 18, 2002, 9:00 P.M., Doors at 8 Whitebox VIP Lounge / Drum Machine Museum 1067 Market St. #1004 San Francisco, CA Info/Reservations (only 25 V.I.P.): 415.503.0477 OR http://www.drummachine.com/newsite/events/events.htm also appearing: Wobbly (@10) and Siren (visuals) Admission at door: $7.00 --=====================_3923135==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hello,

I will be performing my music this Friday in celebration of my second solo CD, which hits the stores today.  Music for tuba, didjeridu, throat singing, live processing and looping/sampling.

Please come to this rare full-length bay area performance, enjoy the Meyer sound system (left and right sub-woofers!) and judge for yourself.

CD Release Concert
Friday, May 17, 2002, 8:15 P.M.
Noe Valley Ministry
1021 Sanchez St. at 23rd St.
San Francisco, CA
Info/Reservations:  415.282.2317 OR
nvmin@mindspring.com
www.noevalleyministry.org
Tickets at the door:  $10.00


Tom Heasley
NEW CD AVAILABLE (in stores May 14):  On the Sensations of Tone,  (www.innova.mu)
ALSO AVAILABLE:  Where the Earth Meets the Sky,  (www.hypnos.com)

http://bayimproviser.com/TomHeasley
427 Alma St., Suite 206         
Palo Alto, CA  94301
P:  650.322.3633                
F:  419.831.3809
E:  tom@tomheasley.com
WEBSITE COMING SOON:  TOMHEASLEY.COM

Upcoming Solo Concerts:

Saturday, May 18, 2002, 9:00 P.M., Doors at 8
Whitebox VIP Lounge / Drum Machine Museum
1067 Market St.  #1004
San Francisco, CA
Info/Reservations (only 25 V.I.P.):  415.503.0477 OR <mickeyt@drummachine.com>
http://www.drummachine.com/newsite/events/events.htm
also appearing:  Wobbly (@10) and Siren (visuals)
Admission at door: $7.00 --=====================_3923135==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 15:34:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22894; Tue, 14 May 2002 15:32:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:32:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: dcoffin@taunton.com Subject: Re: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:32:06 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Mailsrv/Taunton(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 05/14/2002 03:32:13 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com <> Check out a Korg AM8000 if you can...has cool filters and reverbs that can run in series or parallel, with foot-pedal control. David From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 15:54:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27665; Tue, 14 May 2002 15:53:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:53:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001c01c1fb4e$7e4d2390$0cf8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <0BC9713B-6709-11D6-8C26-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:51:46 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com no experience with the lexicon unit, but for single-space applications, you might want to consider the eventide eclipse. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 16:00:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30039; Tue, 14 May 2002 15:59:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:59:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005801c1fb4f$690be560$0cf8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: Re: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:58:20 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01C1FB57.C9D72050" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C1FB57.C9D72050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Lexicon MPX500=3Dgood loop mangler?oh yes...the sherman is indeed on = mean little machine. if you're looking for a good mangler, the sherman = is your man. my only gripe is that it simple does not fit in a rack very easily. it = could've been built like the mutator to occupy 2 spaces but to have all = the knobs accessible from the front of the rack, it has to be mounted so = that it takes up 4 spaces. that's the only complaint i have. i wonder if i can alter it myself? anybody tried that? -jim ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C1FB57.C9D72050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Lexicon MPX500=3Dgood loop mangler?
oh yes...the sherman is indeed on mean little = machine. =20 if you're looking for a good mangler, the sherman is your = man.
 
my only gripe is that it simple does not fit in a = rack very=20 easily.  it could've been built like the mutator to occupy 2 spaces = but to=20 have all the knobs accessible from the front of the rack, it has to be = mounted=20 so that it takes up 4 spaces.  that's the only complaint i=20 have.
 
i wonder if i can alter it myself?  anybody = tried=20 that?
 
-jim
------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C1FB57.C9D72050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 16:02:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01451; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:01:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:01:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006201c1fb4f$844b7390$0cf8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: Re: Sherman Filterbank Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:59:06 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com they are still in production. go to www.sherman.be for some info. i think the sherman 1 and the quad filter are the only units not in production. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 16:06:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03382; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:05:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:05:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: paul@brainvirus.org Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:05:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3CBB5DA90001D861@mta08.san.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <005801c1fb4f$690be560$0cf8c440@g0wn7> Subject: NUBUS Macintosh as sampler? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id QAA03339 Resent-Message-ID: <48_uXC.A.a0.Z3W48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is anyone Mac as a sampler/looper? If so, what are the external triggering options; (I think Back To Basics uses the actual keyboard!) I assume MIDI, is a footswitch somehow applicable here? Is the built in audio output suitable to go to a mixer from? Thanks Paul Sherman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 16:11:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06671; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:10:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:10:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009001c1fb50$e7e08110$0cf8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:09:03 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i've got a raven labs semi-parametric that i do like, but it's a half-rack wide and 1.5 units tall, so it doesn't fit at all. that and it's not fully parametric. thanks for the tips. i was curious about the tc unit. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 16:24:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08463; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:19:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:19:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c1fb84$709bd440$2d2e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <009001c1fb50$e7e08110$0cf8c440@g0wn7> Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:17:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I really like the behringer. They also make a valve fully parametric eq, but it is stereo and two units tall, so it is also out... By the way it is also really cheap for a valve unit... Here it is sold for 250 Euro (near 220 Us Dollars). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions > i've got a raven labs semi-parametric that i do like, but it's a half-rack > wide and 1.5 units tall, so it doesn't fit at all. that and it's not fully > parametric. > > thanks for the tips. i was curious about the tc unit. > > -jim > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 16:26:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10536; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:25:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:25:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:10:18 -0700 From: Dean Stiglitz Subject: re: NUBUS Macintosh as sampler? To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Peter Cohen Associates X-Mailer: GoldMine [5.50.10424] Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20020514200959.OYNN29832.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@dean> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id QAA10266 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ...i have several audiomedia 2 cards kicking around (very high quality audio in/out for nubus)...i'm not looking to toss them, but might consider a trade for one. deknow From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 16:30:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12430; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:28:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:28:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:26:13 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: 2 SF GIGS / NEW CD In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20020514121712.0337fec0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020514121712.0337fec0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 12:22 PM -0700 5/14/02, Tom Heasley wrote: >Noe Valley Ministry Have a great gig. If Ramon Sender is there, say hello for me. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 16:35:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14204; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:34:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:34:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE1753C.6666472@friendlyspider.com> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:36:38 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NUBUS Macintosh as sampler? References: <3CBB5DA90001D861@mta08.san.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm fixing to install Ableton's Live (interactive loop/sequencing app) on a G4..... It might run on your machine....check them out on the web: http://www.ableton.com/ I'm sure your sound manager outputs would be OK for most applications, particularly live. There is generally a bit of low-level buzzing in the circuitry, but if you maintain a high signal level..... Ableton can handle all kinds of MIDI control....it is designed to be used as a performance tool as well as real time loop tweaking.... -- gary @friendlyspider.com paul@brainvirus.org wrote: > Is anyone Mac as a sampler/looper? If so, what are the external triggering > options; (I think Back To Basics uses the actual keyboard!) I assume MIDI, > is a footswitch somehow applicable here? Is the built in audio output suitable > to go to a mixer from? > > Thanks > Paul Sherman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 17:41:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20914; Tue, 14 May 2002 17:36:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:36:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:34:24 -0500 Subject: test From: Peter Einhorn To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3CE01F1F.5ABE11CB@zerocrossing.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1Ss7e.A.G_E.eGY48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com test From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 17:41:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21030; Tue, 14 May 2002 17:39:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:39:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: test Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:37:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Finkle and einhorn, einhorn and finkle, finkle and Einhorn, einhorn finkle finkle einhorn Got your test. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: test test From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 18:16:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23998; Tue, 14 May 2002 17:52:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:52:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE18688.42D66C46@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:50:00 -0400 From: Dan Ash Reply-To: danash@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Time-code sync issues...(help!!) References: <200205141810.OAA11544@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> MIDI spec: I love this place. Dan Ash From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 18:17:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26161; Tue, 14 May 2002 18:16:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:16:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:17:32 -0500 Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access From: Peter Einhorn To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3104241453_9374638_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3104241453_9374638_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thx Ben- well I got the 20k ohm Proel pedal. [didn't Kim say 20k ohm is what we want?]. It won't open the feedback line all the way [enabling an infinite loop], which is no good. If I replace it with a 25k ohm linear pot, will it go to Max. value for feedback when in the down position? What do I need to do to accomplish this.? Thx peter Parts Express has replacement linear pots for about $4. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:39 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access I ordered a' Proel Internal Ctrl Mono/Stereo Kybrd Volume Pedal' 20k ohm. Could't find out about audio or linear taper. Guess I'll find out. Thx for help! -peter > you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you > get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not > translate to the middle of the control range. > in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default), > the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64... > in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper > pot with a linear taper pot... > >> i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll >> have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. >> >> -jim >> >> > > My email will soon be ONLY petereinhorn@mac.com Please update your address book. My email will soon be ONLY petereinhorn@mac.com Please update your address book. --MS_Mac_OE_3104241453_9374638_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: expression pedal with all access Thx Ben-
well I got the 20k ohm Proel pedal. [didn't Kim say 20k ohm is what we want= ?].
It won't open the feedback line all the way [enabling an infinite loop], w= hich is no good.
If I  replace it with a 25k ohm linear pot, will it go to Max. value f= or feedback when in the down position? What do I need to do to accomplish th= is.?

Thx
peter

Parts Express has replacement linear pots for about $4.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:39 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access

I ordered a' Proel Internal Ctrl Mono/Stereo Kybrd Volume Pe= dal' 20k ohm.
Could't find out about audio or linear taper. Guess I'll fin= d out. Thx for
help!

-peter

> you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert= cable, but you
> get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does= not
> translate to the middle of the control range. > in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 = (default),
> the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of = 64...
> in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the = audio taper
> pot with a linear taper pot...
>
>> i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm t= old i'll
>> have to build a special cable for it...we'll see.
>>
>> -jim
>>
>>
>
>

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--MS_Mac_OE_3104241453_9374638_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 18:53:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01518; Tue, 14 May 2002 18:52:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:52:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE19514.5C12F043@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:52:05 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers Subject: Re: NUBUS Macintosh as sampler? References: <3CBB5DA90001D861@mta08.san.yahoo.com> <3CE1753C.6666472@friendlyspider.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A friend of mine got an audiomedia nubus card cheap, threw it into an early Powermac he got for nothing, and he was on his way! RAM for such machines aren't quite as cheap as modern RAM, but he was able to do quite a bit with that little machine. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 18:54:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02628; Tue, 14 May 2002 18:53:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:53:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: expression pedal with all access Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:52:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB9A.10D403F0" Resent-Message-ID: <4g8tEC.A.In.kVZ48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB9A.10D403F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" really not the right guy to ask. do know that the log pots most guitars use are 250K but would love to be corrected by somebody on the list who has more experience with these things! I assume they are equivalent... -----Original Message----- From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:18 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com; BReid@about-inc.com Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access Thx Ben- well I got the 20k ohm Proel pedal. [didn't Kim say 20k ohm is what we want?]. It won't open the feedback line all the way [enabling an infinite loop], which is no good. If I replace it with a 25k ohm linear pot, will it go to Max. value for feedback when in the down position? What do I need to do to accomplish this.? Thx peter Parts Express has replacement linear pots for about $4. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:39 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access I ordered a' Proel Internal Ctrl Mono/Stereo Kybrd Volume Pedal' 20k ohm. Could't find out about audio or linear taper. Guess I'll find out. Thx for help! -peter > you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you > get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not > translate to the middle of the control range. > in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default), > the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64... > in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper > pot with a linear taper pot... > >> i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll >> have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. >> >> -jim >> >> > > My email will soon be ONLY petereinhorn@mac.com Please update your address book. My email will soon be ONLY petereinhorn@mac.com Please update your address book. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB9A.10D403F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Re: expression pedal with all access
really not the right guy to ask. do know that the log pots most guitars use are 250K but would love to be corrected by somebody on the list who has more experience with these things! I assume they are equivalent...
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:18 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com; BReid@about-inc.com
Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access

Thx Ben-
well I got the 20k ohm Proel pedal. [didn't Kim say 20k ohm is what we want?].
It won't open the feedback line all the way [enabling an infinite loop], which is no good.
If I  replace it with a 25k ohm linear pot, will it go to Max. value for feedback when in the down position? What do I need to do to accomplish this.?

Thx
peter

Parts Express has replacement linear pots for about $4.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com]
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:39 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access

I ordered a' Proel Internal Ctrl Mono/Stereo Kybrd Volume Pedal' 20k ohm.
Could't find out about audio or linear taper. Guess I'll find out. Thx for
help!

-peter

> you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you
> get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not
> translate to the middle of the control range.
> in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default),
> the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64...
> in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper
> pot with a linear taper pot...
>
>> i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll
>> have to build a special cable for it...we'll see.
>>
>> -jim
>>
>>
>
>

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FB9A.10D403F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 19:05:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07431; Tue, 14 May 2002 19:04:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:04:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002701c1fb69$276b0ef0$0af8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <009001c1fb50$e7e08110$0cf8c440@g0wn7> <000f01c1fb84$709bd440$2d2e2697@o4z6b8> Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:02:37 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com regarding the behringer, does anybody know of the "PEQ2200" which is non-tube, single-space, mono unit...five bands, fully parametric? -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 19:19:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10672; Tue, 14 May 2002 19:18:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:18:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020514161126.03810ec0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:12:44 -0700 To: Loopers Delight - List From: Tom Heasley Subject: ZVONAR in ATLANTA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1972339==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_1972339==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > THE ELECTRIC ARTS ALLIANCE OF ATLANTA > PRESENTS >Meet The Artist v.1.0: Richard Zvonar and Dan Walsh > > 8 pm AT EYEDRUM, MONDAY, MAY 20, 2002 > >The Electric Arts Alliance of Atlanta (EAAA) is proud to present the >first of its Meet The Artist series at Eyedrum with presentations by two >dynamic electric artists, Richard Zvonar and Dan Walsh, at 8:00 p.m. on >Monday, May 20th, 2002. Richard Zvonar is a composer and intermedia artist >living in Los Angeles, California and will discuss his work by drawing from >his 30 years of experience in the fields of intermedia perfomance, >electroacoustic improvisation, and multichannel >spatialization. Dan Walsh is a new media artist living in Atlanta, >Georgia and will present and discuss his current work developing >software for interactive audio / video performance in the programming >environments NATO and Max/MSP. > >Richard Zvonar is a composer and intermedia artist whose works include >pieces for voice, acoustic and electronic instruments, tape, film, >installations, music theater and intermedia performance. Zvonar >received a PhD in Composition and Music Technology in 1982 from UC San >Diego, where he was a Research Assistant at the Computer Audio Research >Lab (CARL) and a Fellow at the Center for Music Experiment (CME). >Performances of electroacoustic music, featuring computer controlled >processing of acoustic sounds, include an ongoing project with bassist >Robert Black (Real Art Ways, PASS, Experimental Intermedia Foundation, >Composers' Forum), Hex (1987) with the ensemble Relache in Philadelphia, and >several years touring and recording with avant-diva Diamanda Galas. Most >recently, Zvonar has been developing his own performance control software >using the Max programming environment. For more information on Richard >Zvonar please visit his website at http://www.zvonar.com. > >John Daniel Walsh is a new media artist living in Atlanta. He has >produced audio recordings, videos, audio / video installations, and >custom audio / video software, most recently at Solomon Projects gallery. >He is the winner of the 2000 Emerging Artist's Award from the >City of Atlanta, Bureau of Cultural Affairs, and his work has been >featured in exhibitions in Georgia and nationwide. He is currently the >Visiting Artist in Residence at the Atlanta College of Art in the video >department. Walsh is currently working on the creation of audio and >video software for display and performance in the Max/Nato programming >environment. > >A $3 donation is requested for admission. For more info please contact: >Electric_Arts_Alliance@yahoo.com or visit http://www.eyedrum.org > >Eyedrum, Suite 8, 290 MLK, Jr. DR, Atlanta, GA 30312 > >The Electric Arts Alliance of Atlanta (EAAA) >Electric_Arts_Alliance@yahoo.com >Electric_Arts_Alliance-subscribe@yahoogroups.com --=====================_1972339==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

      THE ELECTRIC ARTS ALLIANCE OF ATLANTA
                    PRESENTS
Meet The Artist v.1.0: Richard Zvonar and Dan Walsh

     8 pm AT EYEDRUM, MONDAY, MAY 20, 2002

The Electric Arts Alliance of Atlanta (EAAA) is proud to present the
first of its Meet The Artist series at Eyedrum with presentations by two
dynamic electric artists, Richard Zvonar and Dan Walsh, at 8:00 p.m. on
Monday, May 20th, 2002.  Richard Zvonar is a composer and intermedia artist
living in Los Angeles, California and will discuss his work by drawing from
his 30 years of experience in the fields of intermedia perfomance,
electroacoustic improvisation, and multichannel
spatialization. Dan Walsh is a new media artist living in Atlanta,
Georgia and will present and discuss his current work developing
software for interactive audio / video performance in the programming
environments NATO and Max/MSP.

Richard Zvonar is a composer and intermedia artist whose works include
pieces for voice, acoustic and electronic instruments, tape, film,
installations, music theater and intermedia performance.  Zvonar
received a PhD in Composition and Music Technology in 1982 from UC San
Diego, where he was a Research Assistant at the Computer Audio Research
Lab (CARL) and a Fellow at the Center for Music Experiment (CME).
Performances of electroacoustic music, featuring computer controlled
processing of acoustic sounds, include an ongoing project with bassist
Robert Black (Real Art Ways, PASS, Experimental Intermedia Foundation,
Composers' Forum), Hex (1987) with the ensemble Relache in Philadelphia, and
several years touring and recording with avant-diva Diamanda Galas. Most
recently, Zvonar has been developing his own performance control software
using the Max programming environment.  For more information on Richard
Zvonar please visit his website at http://www.zvonar.com.

John Daniel Walsh is a new media artist living in Atlanta. He has
produced audio recordings, videos, audio / video installations, and
custom audio / video software, most recently at Solomon Projects gallery.
He is the winner of the 2000 Emerging Artist's Award from the
City of Atlanta, Bureau of Cultural Affairs, and his work has been
featured in exhibitions in Georgia and nationwide.  He is currently the
Visiting Artist in Residence at the Atlanta College of Art in the video
department.  Walsh is currently working on the creation of audio and
video software for display and performance in the Max/Nato programming
environment.

A $3 donation is requested for admission.  For more info please contact:
Electric_Arts_Alliance@yahoo.com or visit http://www.eyedrum.org

Eyedrum, Suite 8, 290 MLK, Jr. DR, Atlanta, GA 30312

The Electric Arts Alliance of Atlanta (EAAA)
Electric_Arts_Alliance@yahoo.com
Electric_Arts_Alliance-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
--=====================_1972339==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 19:49:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13685; Tue, 14 May 2002 19:48:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:48:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020514234803.89577.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:48:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeap. they are very well made. i had it bad for the stereo model. then AH built me a Harness but I didn't want to cop his thing so I got a Pro Q and ended up abandoning each for the Juice Extractor that the Brewer designed. TC stuff is well built, I have a nicely aged Booster meself! Pedro --- Louis Rossi wrote: > Hi Jim > > FYI, I spotted a TC1140 used at: > > http://www.broadway-music.com/catg/FXEQ.html > > It's a good piece & in the past I've seen one in > Alan Holdsworth's rack & > Fripp use to have the former stereo version too. I > love my TC Sustain EQ > petal for the NS Stick :) > > Cheers. LOU > > > >From: Pedro Felix > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) > suggestions > >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 11:28:43 -0700 (PDT) > > > >snips~ > > > >Jim - > > > >TC 1140 > >Rocktron Pro Q > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 20:14:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18996; Tue, 14 May 2002 20:13:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:13:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:13:59 -0400 From: Lee Barnes Subject: RE: test In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com But was it a "Test for Echo?" ^_^ Lee -----Original Message----- From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: test test From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 21:08:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA25320; Tue, 14 May 2002 21:07:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:07:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:06:47 -0400 Subject: Re: Time-code sync issues...(help!!) From: todd reynolds To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com THANKS!!!! that's why I love this list too... Richard, you're great... T. On 5/14/02 1:27 PM, "Richard Zvonar" wrote: > On 5/14/02 at 11:57 AM, toddreynolds@rcn.com (todd reynolds) wrote: >>> 1. Is there a controller number or note number for Start Point which I >>> could send from MAX/MSP? And the same for changing 8th/beat on the fly? > > At 9:06 AM -0700 5/14/02, andrew pask wrote: >> >> Maybe Dr Zvonar will be able to sort this out, isn't 250 the raw >> MIDI number for start? > > Correct. Start = 250 decimal, FA Hex, 11111010 binary > > > Here's the whole MIDI spec: > > CHANNEL VOICE MESSAGES > ====================== > > 1000nnnn 8N 128-143 0kkkkkkk Note Off event > 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv: note off velocity > > 1001nnnn 9N 144-159 0kkkkkkk Note On event (middle C = 60) > 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv: note on velocity > > 1010nnnn AN 160-175 0kkkkkkk Polyphonic key pressure/after > touch > 0vvvvvvv vvvvvvv: pressure value > > 1011nnnn BN 176-191 0ccccccc Control Change > 0vvvvvvv ccccccc: control #(0-121) > vvvvvvv: control value > 0-31 continuous MSB, 32-63 LSB > 64-95 switches, > 96-121 undefined > ccccccc: 122-127 reserved > > 1100nnnn CN 192-207 0ppppppp Program Change > ppppppp: program number (0-127) > > 1101nnnn DN 208-223 0vvvvvvv Channel pressure/after touch > vvvvvvv: pressure value > > 1110nnnn EN 224-239 0vvvvvvv Pitch wheel change LSB > 0vvvvvvv Pitch wheel change MSB > > CHANNEL MODE MESSAGES > ===================== > > 1011nnnn BN 176-191 0ccccccc Selects Channel Mode > 0vvvvvvv > ccccccc = 122: Local Control > vvvvvvv = 0: Local > Control OFF > vvvvvvv = 127: Local > Control ON > > ccccccc = 123: All Notes OFF > vvvvvvv = 0 > > ccccccc = 124: Omni Mode OFF > (All Notes OFF) > vvvvvvv = 0: > > ccccccc = 125: Omni Mode ON > (All Notes OFF) > vvvvvvv = 0 > > ccccccc = 126: Mono Mode ON > (Poly Mode OFF, > All Notes OFF) > vvvvvvv = M (M=number of > channels) > vvvvvvv = 0 (number of > channels = > > number of voices > in receiver) > > ccccccc = 127: Poly Mode ON > (All Notes OFF) > vvvvvvv = 0 > > > SYSTEM COMMON MESSAGES > ====================== > > 11110000 F0 240 Start of System Exclusive > > 11110001 F1 241 MTC Quarter Frame > > 11110010 F2 242 Song Position Pointer > 0lllllll lllllll: LSB > 0hhhhhhh hhhhhhh: MSB > > 11110011 F3 243 0sssssss Song Select > sssssss: Song # > > 11110100 F4 244 Undefined > > 11110101 F5 245 Undefined > > 11110110 F6 246 Tune Request > > 11110111 F7 247 End of System Exclusive > > > SYSTEM REAL TIME MESSAGES > ========================= > > 11111000 F8 248 Timing Clock > 11111001 F9 249 Undefined > 11111010 FA 250 Start > 11111011 FB 251 Continue > 11111100 FC 252 Stop > 11111101 FD 253 Undefined > 11111110 FE 254 Active Sensing > 11111111 FF 255 System Reset From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 22:25:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00582; Tue, 14 May 2002 22:24:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:24:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Jim Poppen" To: Subject: RE: test Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:25:01 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hopefully, this thread will drift away like "Vapor Trails." >:-D > But was it a "Test for Echo?" > ^_^ > > > Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Einhorn [mailto:petereinhorn@mac.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:34 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: test > > > test > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 14 23:07:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05865; Tue, 14 May 2002 23:07:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 23:07:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: chillyb@mail.cruzio.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:11:23 -0700 To: From: "William R. Walker," Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Raven Labs makes a nice half rack parametric, there stuff is really clean and not too expensive. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 00:29:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA11207; Wed, 15 May 2002 00:28:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:28:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:28:23 -0700 From: andrew pask Subject: LA CA USA gig spam In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20020514161126.03810ec0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.5.1 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yo Loopers I'm playing saxophones, Orville and MAX/MSP with Digital Cutup Lounge, featuring the usual asortment of highly dodgy nonsense this Friday. Come along and put some money on the bet that I won't have to reset my Parameter RAM in public! Cheers Andrew Digital Cutup Lounge cut and cut to the ruptures and the strokes, using computers to mix dance tracks, ambient noise, jazz solos, Internet radio broadcasts and music from all over the globe, following a massive multicultural collision course with our hyperaccelerated future... Digital Cutup Lounge will be playing this week at FOLD at the Derby [4500 Los Feliz Blvd] this Friday night May 17 doors open at 8pm $10 21+ lineup: KID606 CRACK (We Are Rock) SEKSU ROBA ELECTRIC COMPANY UPROCK NAUSEOUS JOOKBHOX - in the Judy Garland Room DIGITAL CUTUP LOUNGE - in the Judy Garland Room Advance tickets for this event are now available online at Virtuous.com: http://www.virtuous.com/search/events_venue.php?venueid=DRB*7 -- NOTES: Beginning in the fall of 1999, the first "digital cut up lounge" sessions at live music clubs in Hong Kong. Inspiration of William S. Burroughs method. Dimly lit voice-overs and a radio news announcement in a foreign language…high-powered beats blare out of the speakers and the band tries hard to keep up with the momentum of the beats per minute. Programmed drum patterns, virtual tape loops and unlimited palettes of sonic DNA mutation. Crossing the vinyl frontier? The cursor has replaced the stylus in the role of sample splicing and beat juggling. It's music. But when? How much longer? How much longer? They'll creep right onto the stage for a recent concert that means doing the stylus in the middle, he said. One more hour. Crazy kind of sample splicing and hit the digital stir-fry treatment. It's jazz, but not as far as we know it, I whispered. He shrugged and beat juggling. Then he shouted, suddenly seemed so traditional. He shrugged. Unlimited sound effects may be old hat when it comes to take the handiwork. So traditional. Techno, skins and fortune currently visited on adrenalin reserves -- shareware will collide with me on the crash. EN ESPANOL: Comenzando en la caída de 1999, las primeras "corte digital encima sesiones del salón" en los clubs vivos de la música en Hong Kong. Inspiración del método de William S. Burroughs. Encendió dévil voz-overs y un aviso de radio de las noticias en un language. High-powered extranjero bate fragor fuera de los altavoces y la venda intenta difícilmente continuar con el ímpetu de los golpes por minuto. Patrones programados del tambor, lazos virtuales de la cinta y gamas de colores ilimitadas de la mutación acústica de la DNA. żCruzar la frontera del vinilo? El cursor ha substituido la aguja en el papel de la muestra que empalmaba y el hacer juegos malabares del golpe. Es música. żPero cuándo? żCuánto más largo? żCuánto más largo? Se arrastrarán a la derecha sobre la etapa para un concierto reciente que signifique hacer la aguja en el centro, él dijeron. Una más hora. La clase loca de muestra que empalma y golpeada el digital revolver-fri'e el tratamiento. Es jazz, pero no por lo que lo sabemos, susurré. Él encogieron y el hacer juegos malabares del golpe. Entonces él gritó, parecido repentinamente tan tradicional. Él encogió. Los efectos sonoros ilimitados pueden ser viejo sombrero cuando viene tomar la obra. Tan tradicional. Techno, pieles y fortuna visitada actualmente en reservas de la adrenalina -- el shareware chocará con mí en el desplome. -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 00:33:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA11712; Wed, 15 May 2002 00:32:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:32:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001101c1fb97$083180e0$01f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 23:31:01 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeah...i've got the raven labs unit and it is nice BUT it's not really convenient in a rack...1/2 wide 1.5 high so it doesn't mount easily. i had to build this little in-the-back-on-the-side slot for it and it's a pain since i have to reach around to fix the sound. plus, the q is fixed and i think i'd like to have a fully parametric unit. the raven labs true blue is semi-parametric. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 00:50:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA12728; Wed, 15 May 2002 00:49:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:49:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004c01c1fb99$799b3f30$01f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <20020514234803.89577.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 23:48:30 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com anybody using the rane units, pe-15 and -17? just happened across them... -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 01:00:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA14749; Wed, 15 May 2002 00:59:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:59:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Looping9string@aol.com Message-ID: <17b.84812b5.2a1344f5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:58:29 EDT Subject: my second 9 string bass To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10500 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am very happy to announce to my fellow gear junkies that I ordered my second Warrior Nine string bass today! It will be the long lost twin to my current Warrior fretted Nine string, only this "twin" will be a fretless version! If you want to see the bass I already have, go to: http://www.warriorinstruments.com/artists.asp click my name, Gregory Bruce Campbell... I am overly anxious! I have 6 to 8 weeks of nauseating anxiety ahead... Did you hear that? UPS? oh it was just the wind... Did you hear that? UPS? oh it was the neighbors... Did you hear that? UPS? damn, it was the wind again... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 02:04:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA18265; Wed, 15 May 2002 02:02:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 02:02:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c1fbd5$f75f2c60$9c2e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <009001c1fb50$e7e08110$0cf8c440@g0wn7> <000f01c1fb84$709bd440$2d2e2697@o4z6b8> <002701c1fb69$276b0ef0$0af8c440@g0wn7> Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 08:01:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It is basically the same design as the tube one...The tube one is derived from the PEQ2200. That was the one I was talking aobut. I tried it in a studio and I think it is a good unit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:02 PM Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions > regarding the behringer, does anybody know of the "PEQ2200" which is > non-tube, single-space, mono unit...five bands, fully parametric? > > -jim > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 02:29:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19096; Wed, 15 May 2002 02:29:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 02:29:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: Will Whine for EDP Upgrade Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 23:28:39 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Boy am I ever jonesin' for this here spiffy long awaited LoopIV thingee (sorry, just read gig spam from BKFresno) Anyway, uh, isn't it loop yet? Estimated Date of Release? .pdf of uncompleted manual? Boy do I wish I coulda gone to Oakland . . . Yours in misery, Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 03:10:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA21478; Wed, 15 May 2002 03:07:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 03:07:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: faisalmoro@mail.mac.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001101c1fb97$083180e0$01f8c440@g0wn7> References: <001101c1fb97$083180e0$01f8c440@g0wn7> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:06:32 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: faisal moro Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The TC 1140 or 2240 are great, even used as preamp. Pedal version (TC DPE) is cool too, as it can handles studio level devices too. Again, the TC SPE offers one band of parametric EQ + sustain control. Nothing comparable to TC products when talking about sound quality IMHO. HTH doei! Faisal From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 10:17:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14471; Wed, 15 May 2002 10:15:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:15:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:14:25 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <02f101c1fc1a$d1c0d770$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com using 20k is supposed to insure more than enough to get 100% feedback. maybe you have it connected wrong? the output of the pedal should be connected to the feedback input on the edp. also, maybe there is an adjustment on the pedal to set the min/max? make sure the cable is good... if you can get a multitester, you can test to make sure the output resistance of the pedal is correct... if all this checks out, maybe something is wrong with the edp itself? check this out from the ld archives: http://www.loopersdelight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_hiliter/LDarchive/199805/msg00305.html?line=34#hilite > Thx Ben- > well I got the 20k ohm Proel pedal. [didn't Kim say 20k ohm is what we > want?]. > It won't open the feedback line all the way [enabling an infinite loop], > which is no good. > If I replace it with a 25k ohm linear pot, will it go to Max. value for > feedback when in the down position? What do I need to do to accomplish > this.? > > Thx > peter > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 10:52:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18427; Wed, 15 May 2002 10:46:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:46:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002f01c1fc1e$c5f3eb40$db635cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #268 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:41:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ] EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #268 May 9, 2002. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Steve Roach and vidnaObmana, who will be making rare concert appearances together at Projektfest and the Gathering this coming Memorial Day weekend. The Featured CD at midnight was disc two of "Well of Souls" on the Projekt label. The vinyl show starter was from the LP "Nada" by Peter Michael Hamer on the Wergo Spectrum label. Steve Roach and vidnaObmana http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2002/focus02.html#may The Gathering and Projektfest http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic/events.html PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Peter Michael Hamer Nada Nada (Wergo Spectrum) Saul Stokes Iris... My Observatory Preview CDR of Fields (Binary) Robert Carty Arriving Light Light Dreaming (Deep Sky Music) Roach & Obmana InnerZone InnerZone (Projekt) 12:00 am Roach & Obmana Deep Hours Well of Souls disc 2 (Projekt) Roach & Obmana Well of Souls Well of Souls disc 2 (Projekt) Roach & Obmana The Quiet Companion Well of Souls disc 2 (Projekt) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach and vidnaObmana. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "InnerZone" on the Projekt label. The vinyl show starter will be from the LP "White Eagle" by Tangerine Dream on the Virgin label. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://www.tadream.net/soundscapes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 14:32:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10175; Wed, 15 May 2002 14:31:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:31:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002301c1fc3e$71ae3a20$d72e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <02f101c1fc1a$d1c0d770$080210ac@jpalmer> Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 20:29:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Probably the problem is in the structure of the pedal itself. I have had a pair of those proels, and found the same problem on both... ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim palmer" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access > using 20k is supposed to insure more than enough to get 100% feedback. > maybe you have it connected wrong? > the output of the pedal should be connected to the feedback input on the edp. > also, maybe there is an adjustment on the pedal to set the min/max? > make sure the cable is good... > if you can get a multitester, you can test to make sure the output resistance of > the pedal is correct... > if all this checks out, maybe something is wrong with the edp itself? > > check this out from the ld archives: > http://www.loopersdelight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_hiliter/LDarchive/199805/msg0030 5.html?line=34#hilite > > > > Thx Ben- > > well I got the 20k ohm Proel pedal. [didn't Kim say 20k ohm is what we > > want?]. > > It won't open the feedback line all the way [enabling an infinite loop], > > which is no good. > > If I replace it with a 25k ohm linear pot, will it go to Max. value for > > feedback when in the down position? What do I need to do to accomplish > > this.? > > > > Thx > > peter > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 16:25:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25138; Wed, 15 May 2002 16:24:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:24:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7c.27ece8d9.2a141d7b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:22:19 EDT Subject: see what? by c voit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: <5ybmDD.A.4EG.cOs48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i have had the good fortune to hear claude's work over the last few years on the ct-collective's projects and his songs have never failed to knock me out.....imagine an entire 63:30 of these oh so tasty bits.....thoughts of "how's he doin that" are blown away by the beauty of the beat and melody.....and let me tell you, there's pleanty of beat.....hows he doin that?.....yipes!.....and then its whap ya upside the head with melodic counterpointed loveliness.....how's he doin that?......"see what?" is an excellent melding of knowing the cababilites of your instrument (acoustic guitar into a whole bunch-o-stuff) "sequencers, loopers, analog and digital processes, midi automations/processes, midi pickups, slides, needles, bows etc... were used and triggered by hand and feets." and a heart and head that know and love music.....pardon the pun but i want to see what ? mr voit is doing when he creates his tunes, ill bet its a treat.....an excellent listen.....thanks claude.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 17:15:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32132; Wed, 15 May 2002 17:14:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 17:14:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: see what? by c voit Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:14:30 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7c.27ece8d9.2a141d7b@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <838zTD.A.60H.g-s48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I second this--Mr. Voit shared a copy with me (which was stolen with my car stereo--oh man) and it was quite meaty--Hey Michael can't you fly free to Switzerland? Gary -----Original Message----- From: Nemoguitt@aol.com [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: see what? by c voit i have had the good fortune to hear claude's work over the last few years on the ct-collective's projects and his songs have never failed to knock me out.....imagine an entire 63:30 of these oh so tasty bits.....thoughts of "how's he doin that" are blown away by the beauty of the beat and melody.....and let me tell you, there's pleanty of beat.....hows he doin that?.....yipes!.....and then its whap ya upside the head with melodic counterpointed loveliness.....how's he doin that?......"see what?" is an excellent melding of knowing the cababilites of your instrument (acoustic guitar into a whole bunch-o-stuff) "sequencers, loopers, analog and digital processes, midi automations/processes, midi pickups, slides, needles, bows etc... were used and triggered by hand and feets." and a heart and head that know and love music.....pardon the pun but i want to see what ? mr voit is doing when he creates his tunes, ill bet its a treat.....an excellent listen.....thanks claude.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 18:40:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05150; Wed, 15 May 2002 18:39:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 18:39:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020515223813.57584.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:38:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Gigging in NYC/ Gig Talk To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7c.27ece8d9.2a141d7b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hello all- reminder for my weekly gig Thursday, May 16, 2002 at Chama, 332 East 4th Street, betwixt Avenue C and D. I begin ~9:30 pm and have been playing just past midnight. Check archives for quasi-reviews. ahh now last week was lovely: i'd set my rig up, two Digitech delays and an EDP. But, the EDP was quite non-functional. I decided to do the gig sans EDP (hey I can improvise). An LD member comes in just after I decide not to use the EDP. We talk for a bit and I decide to triple check the EDP and find my problem was a feedback pedal plugged improperly (in the footswitch). So once again an LD member unwittingly saves the day. The gig went well thereafter. Thanks Reinaldo! best regards, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 19:33:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08441; Wed, 15 May 2002 19:32:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:32:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:34:57 -0400 From: David Beardsley Subject: Re: Gigging in NYC/ Gig Talk To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <005901c1fc69$237acaa0$03ce2444@union01.nj.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20020515223813.57584.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Check it out folks. Good sh*t. Uh....very good sh*t. I'll try to make it. * David Beardsley * http://biink.com * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 22:59:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19790; Wed, 15 May 2002 22:51:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 22:51:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1331 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 22:51:11 -0400 Subject: Brooklyn - NYC Gig Posting! From: kenn lowy To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200205092246.SAA29560@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wrinklemuzik* Sunday May 19th @ 8 pm sharp Freddy's 485 Dean Street (off 6th Ave) 2 - 3 train to Bergen Street http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/22/wrinklemuzik.html wrinklemuzik is kenn lowy (ebow, vocals, loops and more loops) wrinklemuzik's first EP "A move to the right" was selected by Trouser Press as one of the Top 10 Indy Releases of the year. The year being 1982. kenn has been playing with loops for a long, long time. this performance is part of a fund raising event for Kenn Lowy for NY State Assembly. Admission is free, but a donation is requested. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 15 23:45:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23396; Wed, 15 May 2002 23:44:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:44:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020516034341.80075.qmail@web20001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 20:43:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Meyers Subject: Re: learn to use the gear I have. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20020513125048.86948.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > most of us (all of us?) don't like to think we're on > the wrong road, thus the touchiness. this is a concept that that whole discussion made me think about. "the wrong road" what exactly is the wrong road anyway? despite whatever you are doing, as long as you are taking the steps to fill whatever vision it is you have, then you can't be on the wrong road. i would say that the only time that you are on the wrong road is when you are trying to fool yourself (in anything). with music, and especially looping, i always find that the direction that i lean towards is the path less traveled. it's one thing to stand on the shoulders of giants, it is entirely different to be a giant (not claiming to be a giant of any kind, but wouldn't it be amazing to one day be?) > but ya know I agree with you. > If someone has talent then their gear will not get > in > the way, and if they are lacking in that regard, > well > their gear won't hide it either. > it also all depends on where the talent is. if you are talented with gear and really know what your vision is, then lack of musical ability on a specific instrument will be made up for in technical ability. i hear really crappy music get dressed up really nice to the point that it sounds good on the radio on a daily basis. and i've also heard amazing music sound like garbage due to bad sound. > hey, did you get to Chama on Sat.? unfortunately not. i've been jamming with others on the weekends, including some list members (dan and bill...werd up!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 00:56:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA27771; Thu, 16 May 2002 00:55:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 00:55:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 00:00:31 -0500 Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access From: Peter Einhorn To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002301c1fc3e$71ae3a20$d72e2697@o4z6b8> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for responding. Should I just return it? What's a pedal that one can use? The Ernie Balls don't seem to be shipping anymore. Thanks again , Peter > Probably the problem is in the structure of the pedal itself. I have had a > pair of those proels, and found the same problem on both... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jim palmer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access > > >> using 20k is supposed to insure more than enough to get 100% feedback. >> maybe you have it connected wrong? >> the output of the pedal should be connected to the feedback input on the > edp. >> also, maybe there is an adjustment on the pedal to set the min/max? >> make sure the cable is good... >> if you can get a multitester, you can test to make sure the output > resistance of >> the pedal is correct... >> if all this checks out, maybe something is wrong with the edp itself? >> >> check this out from the ld archives: >> > http://www.loopersdelight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_hiliter/LDarchive/199805/msg0030 > 5.html?line=34#hilite >> >> >>> Thx Ben- >>> well I got the 20k ohm Proel pedal. [didn't Kim say 20k ohm is what we >>> want?]. >>> It won't open the feedback line all the way [enabling an infinite loop], >>> which is no good. >>> If I replace it with a 25k ohm linear pot, will it go to Max. value for >>> feedback when in the down position? What do I need to do to accomplish >>> this.? >>> >>> Thx >>> peter >>> >> >> >> > > > My email will soon be ONLY petereinhorn@mac.com Please update your address book. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 02:04:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA32495; Thu, 16 May 2002 02:03:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 02:03:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000501c1fc9f$4221de40$5b2e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:02:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Currently I'm using the Boss FV300L, it's all metal, it is not too heavy and works well. I've also tried the old Korg expression pedals and I think they are good, too, plus you can find them used for cheap. Don't try Bespeco, since they are almost the same thing as the Proel (I think they are even produced in the same factory here in Italy). The only advice I can give you is to try to find metal expression pedals, since they seem to work better and be more reliable in the value excursion. Peace Luigi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Einhorn" To: Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:00 AM Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access > Thanks for responding. Should I just return it? What's a pedal that one can > use? The Ernie Balls don't seem to be shipping anymore. > > Thanks again , > Peter > > > Probably the problem is in the structure of the pedal itself. I have had a > > pair of those proels, and found the same problem on both... > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jim palmer" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:14 PM > > Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access > > > > > >> using 20k is supposed to insure more than enough to get 100% feedback. > >> maybe you have it connected wrong? > >> the output of the pedal should be connected to the feedback input on the > > edp. > >> also, maybe there is an adjustment on the pedal to set the min/max? > >> make sure the cable is good... > >> if you can get a multitester, you can test to make sure the output > > resistance of > >> the pedal is correct... > >> if all this checks out, maybe something is wrong with the edp itself? > >> > >> check this out from the ld archives: > >> > > http://www.loopersdelight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_hiliter/LDarchive/199805/msg0030 > > 5.html?line=34#hilite > >> > >> > >>> Thx Ben- > >>> well I got the 20k ohm Proel pedal. [didn't Kim say 20k ohm is what we > >>> want?]. > >>> It won't open the feedback line all the way [enabling an infinite loop], > >>> which is no good. > >>> If I replace it with a 25k ohm linear pot, will it go to Max. value for > >>> feedback when in the down position? What do I need to do to accomplish > >>> this.? > >>> > >>> Thx > >>> peter > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > My email will soon be ONLY petereinhorn@mac.com > Please update your address book. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 04:13:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA06370; Thu, 16 May 2002 04:11:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 04:11:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020516081013.12896.qmail@web21207.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 01:10:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradley Fish Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-120739755-1021536613=:12071" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --0-120739755-1021536613=:12071 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For acoustic guitar You can't beat the Pendulum Audio stuff. I use the SPS-1 which is stereo but they have a mono one, too. I've used mine on hundreds of gigs with Chinese Zither, dulcimer and Acoustic Guitar...Recently I've used it for my Roland drum brain and even vocals. I'm sure it wiould be nice on an electric as well. The parametric EQ lets you eliminate feedback and shape your sound. Ther stereo one will send your pickup/mic blend to the house and your pickup only to the monitor to avoid feedback. Makes acoustic stuff sound orgasmic. hmmm...maybe that's why the SPS-1 was $1,100. Good Luck! Bradley Fish faisal moro wrote: The TC 1140 or 2240 are great, even used as preamp. Pedal version (TC DPE) is cool too, as it can handles studio level devices too. Again, the TC SPE offers one band of parametric EQ + sustain control. Nothing comparable to TC products when talking about sound quality IMHO. HTH doei! Faisal --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! 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For acoustic guitar You can't beat the Pendulum Audio stuff. I use the SPS-1 which is stereo but they have a mono one, too. I've used mine on hundreds of gigs with Chinese Zither, dulcimer and Acoustic Guitar...Recently I've used it for my Roland drum brain and even vocals. I'm sure it wiould be nice on an electric as well. The parametric EQ lets you eliminate feedback and shape your sound. 

Ther stereo one will send your pickup/mic blend to the house and your pickup only to the monitor to avoid feedback.

Makes acoustic stuff sound orgasmic. hmmm...maybe that's why the SPS-1 was $1,100.

Good Luck!

Bradley Fish

  faisal moro <faisalmoro@mac.com> wrote:

The TC 1140 or 2240 are great, even used as preamp. Pedal version (TC
DPE) is cool too, as it can handles studio level devices too. Again,
the TC SPE offers one band of parametric EQ + sustain control.
Nothing comparable to TC products when talking about sound quality IMHO.

HTH

doei!
Faisal


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LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience --0-120739755-1021536613=:12071-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 04:45:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07718; Thu, 16 May 2002 04:43:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 04:43:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <189.7fd3ac1.2a14cb00@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 04:42:40 EDT Subject: Re: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > I guess I'm kind of asking for the mpx500 and a filter > modeler in one single rack space box, and I'm probably not going to get > it. If you don't need to use all those things simultaneously then checkout the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, which has reverb and filters.(+much more) not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller to really mangle in real time. ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a factor of about 4. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 11:38:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28114; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:36:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:36:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003201c1fcbc$dd8c5fa0$0bf8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 10:34:22 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <99vUEC.A.X2G.XH948@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ernie ball not shipping anymore? hmmm...i would think they're very much still in production. have you tried places like musicians friend and sam ash? if all else fails and you want an e.b., just try ebay. every time i look there are approximately 10+ units being sold...and pretty cheap. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 11:39:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28177; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:37:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:37:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003c01c1fcbd$24ddd1e0$0bf8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <20020516081013.12896.qmail@web21207.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 10:36:22 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C1FCC5.85A90CD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C1FCC5.85A90CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i looked up the pendulum unit...is the mono version still in production? = =20 my guitar is soon to be an 8-string archtop, so an "acoustic" eq might = not be such a bad idea. -jim ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C1FCC5.85A90CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i looked up the pendulum unit...is the mono version = still in=20 production? 
 
my guitar is soon to be an 8-string archtop, so an = "acoustic"=20 eq might not be such a bad idea.
 
-jim
------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C1FCC5.85A90CD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 11:45:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28867; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:44:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:44:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005901c1fcbe$10f2add0$0bf8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 10:42:58 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1FCC6.71C73790" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1FCC6.71C73790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: expression pedal with all accesson the topic of all access, what = have those of you that own one done about the 5-to-7 pin midi cable = business? make your own? order from rocktron? is anything transmitted on pins 4 and 5, anyhow? -jim ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1FCC6.71C73790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: expression pedal with all access
on the topic of all access, what have those of you = that own=20 one done about the 5-to-7 pin midi cable business?  make your = own? =20 order from rocktron?
 
is anything transmitted on pins 4 and 5, = anyhow?
 
-jim
------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C1FCC6.71C73790-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 11:52:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29583; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:51:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:51:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:50:04 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2002 15:50:04.0748 (UTC) FILETIME=[58A300C0:01C1FCF1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Who is building your archtop? Can you please post the builder's website link if possible? Cheers Lou >From: "Jimmy Fowler" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 10:36:22 +0100 > >i looked up the pendulum unit...is the mono version still in production? > >my guitar is soon to be an 8-string archtop, so an "acoustic" eq might not >be such a bad idea. > >-jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 12:10:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31630; Thu, 16 May 2002 12:08:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:08:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:07:36 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00a101c1fcf3$cbbdf180$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <005901c1fcbe$10f2add0$0bf8c440@g0wn7> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you don't have to use a 7 pin cable, unless you have a device that sends 9vac power to the fs. (rocktron preamps do). i'm using a 5 pin cable and running power via the barrel connector on the fs... rocktron is using the other pins to send data to the fs, btw... seems like i have seen several music instrument dealers selling 7 pin cables.. how do you like the 900lb buttons? kechuuunk >on the topic of all access, what have those of you that own one done about the 5-to-7 pin midi cable business? make your >own? order from rocktron? > >is anything transmitted on pins 4 and 5, anyhow? > >-jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 12:29:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32647; Thu, 16 May 2002 12:28:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:28:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:28:29 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <189.7fd3ac1.2a14cb00@aol.com> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com andy butler recommended: the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, which has reverb and filters.(+much more) not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller to really mangle in real time. ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a factor of about 4. Are these units shipping in the US yet? There's one on eBay--what's list? What's a good price? Thanks, Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 12:51:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01195; Thu, 16 May 2002 12:47:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:47:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:46:52 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200205161646.AGK65171@msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Unidentified subject! Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:49:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: MIDI syncing JamMan and EDP? Message-ID: <3CE3F134.5137.338AB9@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Howdy all... What's the scoop on MIDI syncing EDP and JamMan? I'd love to be able to use the JamMan for laying down a bass line, and then use the DL4 with the feedback down a bit to have a shifting layered thing over the top - is that possible without resorting to a MIDI mapper at all? I haven't got any space in my rack for more gear (am trying to shrink it down a bit as it is, though it may still end up having to grow a bit)... At the moment I've got the JamMan in a side chain (using a Raven Labs DI to send sound out to it in its FX loop)... On the news front, I've been rather busy with promotional stuff relating to my new CD (sending out copies to radio and for review, doing the occasional interview, and lining up gigs etc.) and getting to know my EDP for my soon to be recorded new completely solo album. I've been using it on some recordings with a London-based keyboardist/guitarist called Patrick Wood, and have been discovering some of what this unbelievably maleable, flexible, intuitive box can do!!! Unbelieveable! I'm really excited about the possibilities for my next CD - hopefully I'll have some preview stuff up there in a month or so (at least for those who've bought my CDs before... :o) Thanks to all those of you who've bought 'Conversations' - the sooner this one breaks even, the sooner I can get working on the next solo one! :o) cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk www.pillowmountainrecords.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 12:51:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01167; Thu, 16 May 2002 12:47:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:47:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE3E21C.22EF126F@ernieball.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:45:16 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access References: <200205161545.LAA28934@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Au contraire, mon frere - we're making them right now. Other than a late shipment from the anodizer which set us back a day last week, we've been cranking out a steady stream. The 25K stereo pedal (#6167) is not made in nearly the same numbers as the mono pedal, so it may be that you just need to search around to find a dealer who has one. You may be thinking of the Rocktron Taboo pedal, which was a controller pedal we made maybe 500 units of for them, four or five years ago. -Hans Lindauer http://www.ernieball.com/product/hardware/pedals/index.html > The Ernie Balls don't seem to be shipping anymore. > > Thanks again , > Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 12:55:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01892; Thu, 16 May 2002 12:54:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:54:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:53:30 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200205161653.AGK65498@msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Unidentified subject! Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:56:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: essential loop recordings? Message-ID: <3CE3F2C3.28006.399EE6@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Just been browsing the LD website - what's happening with the essential loop recordings pages? Is Michael Peters still around to update things (or perhaps too busy touring now that the Alarm are back together... :o) If not, is someone else up for taking it on? What are your essential loop recordings??? anyone got any faves? faves relating to certain pieces of gear? For me, it's Andre's EDP+guitar solo stuff from the end on last year - amazing stuff, hugely inspiring, entertaining and innovative - never all that far from my CD player, and one of the main reasons I bought an EDP... Also Frisell's latest CD with Elvin and Dave Holland - some great useage of loopage in a band setting there - beautifully integrated. Don't know how much of it was in real time, but still very loopalicious. ta ta Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk www.pillowmountainrecords.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 12:57:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02185; Thu, 16 May 2002 12:56:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:56:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c1fcfa$9aba2ac0$bd2e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:56:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I think you could find one for about 180 US Dollars, since here in Italy I have found one for 190 Euro... Obviously we're talking about the new Virtualizer... Peace Luigi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:28 PM Subject: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) > andy butler recommended: > > the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, > which has reverb and filters.(+much more) > > not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller > to really mangle in real time. > ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a factor > of about 4. > > Are these units shipping in the US yet? There's one on eBay--what's list? > What's a good price? > > Thanks, > Gary > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 13:47:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05001; Thu, 16 May 2002 13:46:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 13:46:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: paulrichard10@attbi.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:45:23 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002) Message-Id: <20020516174523.EYRM14522.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> Resent-Message-ID: <85Sqr.A.wNB.XB_48@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com H: I saw them in a local Pittsburgh Music store for $149.00. Regards, Paul > I think you could find one for about 180 US Dollars, since here in Italy I > have found one for 190 Euro... Obviously we're talking about the new > Virtualizer... > > Peace > Luigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Lehmann" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:28 PM > Subject: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop > mangler?) > > > > andy butler recommended: > > > > the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, > > which has reverb and filters.(+much more) > > > > not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller > > to really mangle in real time. > > ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a factor > > of about 4. > > > > Are these units shipping in the US yet? There's one on eBay--what's list? > > What's a good price? > > > > Thanks, > > Gary > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 14:07:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07300; Thu, 16 May 2002 14:07:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:07:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c1fd04$58e23200$aa2e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <20020516174523.EYRM14522.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@rwcrwbc56> Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:06:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is it the new one, presented this year at the frankfurt musik messe? or is it the old one? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:45 PM Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) > H: > > I saw them in a local Pittsburgh Music store for $149.00. > > Regards, Paul > > I think you could find one for about 180 US Dollars, since here in Italy I > > have found one for 190 Euro... Obviously we're talking about the new > > Virtualizer... > > > > Peace > > Luigi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary Lehmann" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:28 PM > > Subject: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop > > mangler?) > > > > > > > andy butler recommended: > > > > > > the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, > > > which has reverb and filters.(+much more) > > > > > > not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller > > > to really mangle in real time. > > > ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a factor > > > of about 4. > > > > > > Are these units shipping in the US yet? There's one on eBay--what's list? > > > What's a good price? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 14:52:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09086; Thu, 16 May 2002 14:50:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:50:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: paulrichard10@attbi.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:49:50 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002) Message-Id: <20020516184950.IPFP12519.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Luigi: It's the new DSP whatever. The old one is being sold at a $119.00 USD price point. Looks like the newer unit has more knobs and a red LCD screen. The old one looked a little cooler to me, but not as many knobs. I've been toying with getting the new Virtualizer Pro. Does the unit have decent sound quality? I need a new general reverb unit for miscellaneous uses. Plus, the Virtualizer has other pretty-cool-looking features. Boy, not to blow Behringer's horn, but some of their latest products ARE awesome from the price/performance standpoint. I bought a Behringer mixer recently (MX2842 I believe-not a newer product) and the quality is impressive for the price. As well as the sonic capabilities. I've been eye-balling the new Behringer digital mixer. Man, that is one impressive looking piece of gear. It looks like its made very well. And the features are again, impressive. I would definitely like to get one of those babies. Even some of the small ticket items are decent. I picked up one of the cable testers for $34.00 at Guitar Center. It's a pretty nice unit for the money. With all the money I have invested in cables, it seemed like a good idea to get a tester. Regards, Paul > Is it the new one, presented this year at the frankfurt musik messe? or is > it the old one? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop > mangler?) > > > > H: > > > > I saw them in a local Pittsburgh Music store for $149.00. > > > > Regards, Paul > > > I think you could find one for about 180 US Dollars, since here in > Italy I > > > have found one for 190 Euro... Obviously we're talking about the new > > > Virtualizer... > > > > > > Peace > > > Luigi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gary Lehmann" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:28 PM > > > Subject: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop > > > mangler?) > > > > > > > > > > andy butler recommended: > > > > > > > > the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, > > > > which has reverb and filters.(+much more) > > > > > > > > not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller > > > > to really mangle in real time. > > > > ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a > factor > > > > of about 4. > > > > > > > > Are these units shipping in the US yet? There's one on eBay--what's > list? > > > > What's a good price? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 14:53:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09235; Thu, 16 May 2002 14:52:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:52:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE3FFAC.5DBB6600@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:51:24 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) References: <001401c1fcfa$9aba2ac0$bd2e2697@o4z6b8> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com They're selling for $149 on musiciansfriend.com (The Guitar Center's Web retailer, so you could probably pick one up there for the same) It's *almost* the exact box I'm looking for (and so damn cheap!)... sans MIDI synch. Not even a tap tempo for delays. Seems such a shame these days to overlook this feature. The line6 pro stuff all has it, but seems too expensive for what they do. If they made a Delay/Mod/Filter Pro model in that price range, it would be a clear winner. The Electrix stuff fit this bill too, but the double rackspace design seems an incredable waste of space. (they're only like 5 inches deep!) So much for the dream of a single rack! Another box that looks promising is the (currently non existant) Alesis Akira. Anyone with inside info on that box? Will it have MIDI synchable effects? I guess it was shown at the Winter NAMM show. I called Alesis, and they said, "What we know is on the web page." Oh boy. Mark Sottilaro Luigi Meloni wrote: > I think you could find one for about 180 US Dollars, since here in Italy I > have found one for 190 Euro... Obviously we're talking about the new > Virtualizer... > > Peace > Luigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Lehmann" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:28 PM > Subject: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop > mangler?) > > > andy butler recommended: > > > > the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, > > which has reverb and filters.(+much more) > > > > not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller > > to really mangle in real time. > > ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a factor > > of about 4. > > > > Are these units shipping in the US yet? There's one on eBay--what's list? > > What's a good price? > > > > Thanks, > > Gary > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 15:01:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11083; Thu, 16 May 2002 15:00:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:00:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE401AE.A8A207A9@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:59:58 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) References: <20020516184950.IPFP12519.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeah, Behringer seems to be doing things right of the most part. I'm extreamly impressed with the FCP1010, and the V-amp is well worth $129 for doing direct recording. Mark paulrichard10@attbi.com wrote: > Hi, Luigi: > > It's the new DSP whatever. The old one is being sold at > a $119.00 USD price point. Looks like the newer unit has > more knobs and a red LCD screen. The old one looked a > little cooler to me, but not as many knobs. > > I've been toying with getting the new Virtualizer Pro. > Does the unit have decent sound quality? I need a new > general reverb unit for miscellaneous uses. Plus, the > Virtualizer has other pretty-cool-looking features. > > Boy, not to blow Behringer's horn, but some of their > latest products ARE awesome from the price/performance > standpoint. I bought a Behringer mixer recently (MX2842 > I believe-not a newer product) and the quality is > impressive for the price. As well as the sonic > capabilities. > > I've been eye-balling the new Behringer digital mixer. > Man, that is one impressive looking piece of gear. It > looks like its made very well. And the features are > again, impressive. I would definitely like to get one of > those babies. > > Even some of the small ticket items are decent. I picked > up one of the cable testers for $34.00 at Guitar Center. > It's a pretty nice unit for the money. With all the > money I have invested in cables, it seemed like a good > idea to get a tester. > > Regards, Paul > > Is it the new one, presented this year at the frankfurt musik messe? or is > > it the old one? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:45 PM > > Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop > > mangler?) > > > > > > > H: > > > > > > I saw them in a local Pittsburgh Music store for $149.00. > > > > > > Regards, Paul > > > > I think you could find one for about 180 US Dollars, since here in > > Italy I > > > > have found one for 190 Euro... Obviously we're talking about the new > > > > Virtualizer... > > > > > > > > Peace > > > > Luigi > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Gary Lehmann" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:28 PM > > > > Subject: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop > > > > mangler?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > andy butler recommended: > > > > > > > > > > the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, > > > > > which has reverb and filters.(+much more) > > > > > > > > > > not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller > > > > > to really mangle in real time. > > > > > ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a > > factor > > > > > of about 4. > > > > > > > > > > Are these units shipping in the US yet? There's one on eBay--what's > > list? > > > > > What's a good price? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 15:12:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11546; Thu, 16 May 2002 15:05:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:05:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: Behringer DSP 2024 prices Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 21:04:32 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c1fd0c$839f61e0$0601a8c0@SATAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com suggested retail price for Europe (according to www.behringer.de): €160 + sales tax one example for an end-user price (www.thomann.de): €159 incl. suggested retail price for North America (according to www.behringer.de): TBA Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 15:14:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11938; Thu, 16 May 2002 15:12:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:12:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001b01c1fd0d$707fa420$aa2e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <20020516184950.IPFP12519.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 21:11:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <0eVzk.A.-4C.6RA58@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I've used Behringer products for some years, now, and I find that the audio quality is good enough for my home studio and my rack. Currently I'm setting up a studio around their DDX3216 digital mixer and an RME soundcard. I already use a 2004a mixer (basically a rip-off of the mackie pre-vlz 1604) as the centre of my guitar/looping system, and have used both the old version of the Virtualizer and various compressors/limiters (the composer, the multicom, etc.) for studio work, and I find them really good. I really like the sound of the Virtualizer (good reverb section and nice choruses and phasers), and I'm getting one of their valve pre-amps, compressors and parametric equalizers for my studio in the near future. I've tried them and I find the sound to be really good (great for guitar and vocals, and I've used one of them on the violin of my fellow musician/dj for some recording sessions with great results). Peace Luigi ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) > Hi, Luigi: > > It's the new DSP whatever. The old one is being sold at > a $119.00 USD price point. Looks like the newer unit has > more knobs and a red LCD screen. The old one looked a > little cooler to me, but not as many knobs. > > I've been toying with getting the new Virtualizer Pro. > Does the unit have decent sound quality? I need a new > general reverb unit for miscellaneous uses. Plus, the > Virtualizer has other pretty-cool-looking features. > > Boy, not to blow Behringer's horn, but some of their > latest products ARE awesome from the price/performance > standpoint. I bought a Behringer mixer recently (MX2842 > I believe-not a newer product) and the quality is > impressive for the price. As well as the sonic > capabilities. > > I've been eye-balling the new Behringer digital mixer. > Man, that is one impressive looking piece of gear. It > looks like its made very well. And the features are > again, impressive. I would definitely like to get one of > those babies. > > Even some of the small ticket items are decent. I picked > up one of the cable testers for $34.00 at Guitar Center. > It's a pretty nice unit for the money. With all the > money I have invested in cables, it seemed like a good > idea to get a tester. > > Regards, Paul > > Is it the new one, presented this year at the frankfurt musik messe? or is > > it the old one? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:45 PM > > Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop > > mangler?) > > > > > > > H: > > > > > > I saw them in a local Pittsburgh Music store for $149.00. > > > > > > Regards, Paul > > > > I think you could find one for about 180 US Dollars, since here in > > Italy I > > > > have found one for 190 Euro... Obviously we're talking about the new > > > > Virtualizer... > > > > > > > > Peace > > > > Luigi > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Gary Lehmann" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:28 PM > > > > Subject: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop > > > > mangler?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > andy butler recommended: > > > > > > > > > > the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, > > > > > which has reverb and filters.(+much more) > > > > > > > > > > not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller > > > > > to really mangle in real time. > > > > > ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a > > factor > > > > > of about 4. > > > > > > > > > > Are these units shipping in the US yet? There's one on eBay--what's > > list? > > > > > What's a good price? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 15:24:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12492; Thu, 16 May 2002 15:23:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:23:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: ROLAND M-120 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:22:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2002 19:22:22.0986 (UTC) FILETIME=[0137DEA0:01C1FD0F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anyone use this mixer? I have the rane splitter/mixer that I want to replace with another 1 space that has more inputs. Also notice that the m120 has 2 aux sends as well. Cheers LOU _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 17:09:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18987; Thu, 16 May 2002 17:08:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:08:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005001c1fceb$442f7700$01f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <200205161545.LAA28934@hemlock.violacea.com> <3CE3E21C.22EF126F@ernieball.com> Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:06:31 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com this list has a nasty habit of coming up with "i don't think they're making product X anymore" tales... where this information comes from, i don't know. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 17:13:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18874; Thu, 16 May 2002 17:06:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:06:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004801c1fcea$ee011640$01f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: Re: OT: paremetric eq (rackmount) suggestions Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:04:07 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sal giardina...sorry no website, but if you'd like to look at a guitar he built, go to www.astralproject.com and look for steve masakowski's axe. mine won't be much like his, but this is the guy. he's located in new orleans, la which isn't too far from my home. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 17:17:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19459; Thu, 16 May 2002 17:11:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:11:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005601c1fceb$b7559d40$01f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <005901c1fcbe$10f2add0$0bf8c440@g0wn7> <00a101c1fcf3$cbbdf180$080210ac@jpalmer> Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:09:44 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <7dzMlB.A.svE.RBC58@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ...but, doesn't the all access receive power on pins 6 and 7? i will need a 7 pin to get into the all access and i can come from a 5 pin. of course, rocktron builds the 5-to-7 converter cable. it can be yours for 24 bucks and what i've heard to be a very long wait. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 18:01:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21372; Thu, 16 May 2002 17:57:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:57:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:56:38 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <011b01c1fd24$8e19a5a0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <005901c1fcbe$10f2add0$0bf8c440@g0wn7> <00a101c1fcf3$cbbdf180$080210ac@jpalmer> <005601c1fceb$b7559d40$01f8c440@g0wn7> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com it also has a barrel connector for power, which is what i am using. you only need their converter cable if you want to power it through the midi cable... i think it uses pin 1 and 7 on the midi cable for 9vac. i'm thinking pin 2 of a 7pin matches pin 1 of a 5pin because the alignment notch is in the center... > ...but, doesn't the all access receive power on pins 6 and 7? i will need a > 7 pin to get into the all access and i can come from a 5 pin. > > of course, rocktron builds the 5-to-7 converter cable. it can be yours for > 24 bucks and what i've heard to be a very long wait. > > -jim > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 18:31:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23996; Thu, 16 May 2002 18:30:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:30:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1331 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:30:08 -0400 Subject: Brooklyn - NYC Gig Posting! From: kenn lowy To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200205092246.SAA29560@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wrinklemuzik* Sunday May 19th @ 8 pm sharp Freddy's 485 Dean Street (off 6th Ave) 2 - 3 train to Bergen Street http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/22/wrinklemuzik.html wrinklemuzik is kenn lowy (ebow, vocals, loops and more loops) wrinklemuzik's first EP "A move to the right" was selected by Trouser Press as one of the Top 10 Indy Releases of the year. The year being 1982. kenn has been playing with loops for a long, long time. this performance is part of a fund raising event for Kenn Lowy for NY State Assembly. Admission is free, but a donation is requested. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 18:43:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA24692; Thu, 16 May 2002 18:42:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:42:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sent: 16 May 2002 22:41:44 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "timothy crowe" Subject: custom rc-20 for sale X-Sent-From: seemso@directvinternet.com Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:41:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Web Mail 5.0.8-8 Sender: seemso@directvinternet.com Message-Id: <20020516154144.13554.h003.c007.wm@mail.directvinternet.com.criticalpath.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey loopers. i have a boss rc-20 for sale. this is the unit that Matthias configured to speak to his echoplex. the phrase jack (1/4") has been hijacked for this purpose as the metronome sends a syncable out. $225 or trade for . . . of course you loopers get first crack before craigslist or ebay. thanks, tim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 18:45:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25000; Thu, 16 May 2002 18:44:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:44:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005801c1fd2b$75271080$1702a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: References: Subject: Re: ROLAND M-120 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:46:03 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <29aNM.A.2FG.HZD58@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Does anyone use this mixer? I have the rane splitter/mixer that I want to > replace with another 1 space that has more inputs. Also notice that the m120 > has 2 aux sends as well. With the 2 sends and pan in 1 rack space it's very space efficient. The S/N ratio is good but not outstanding. The headroom is adequate though nowhere near that of a Mackie. The headphone out is excessively loud - leading to a lot of noise in the headphones. I wired in some small resistors in series and the headphones are now quiet while still more than loud enough. Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 18:47:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25223; Thu, 16 May 2002 18:46:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:46:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001701c1fcf9$0e759e10$02f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <005901c1fcbe$10f2add0$0bf8c440@g0wn7> <00a101c1fcf3$cbbdf180$080210ac@jpalmer> <005601c1fceb$b7559d40$01f8c440@g0wn7> <011b01c1fd24$8e19a5a0$080210ac@jpalmer> Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:45:14 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "i think it uses pin 1 and 7 on the midi cable for 9vac" i'll need to double-check the manual, but i believe it's pin 6 and 7 that carry the power. what i've done so far is buy a standard 5 pin cable and a 7 pin end. i'll cut and solder as i need, leaving 4 and 5 (on the 7 pin plug) unattached. sound good? -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 19:52:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30251; Thu, 16 May 2002 19:51:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 19:51:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE445DB.D42CEEE1@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:50:50 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Weird emails from the list References: <005901c1fcbe$10f2add0$0bf8c440@g0wn7> <00a101c1fcf3$cbbdf180$080210ac@jpalmer> <005601c1fceb$b7559d40$01f8c440@g0wn7> <011b01c1fd24$8e19a5a0$080210ac@jpalmer> <001701c1fcf9$0e759e10$02f8c440@g0wn7> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8MKo6B.A.UYH.hXE58@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, All of the sudden, I'm getting lot's of strange emails from people on this list with no body and subjects like "entertainment" Seems that someone, or maybe a bunch of you have some virus issues. Might want to check and see. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 20:14:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA32394; Thu, 16 May 2002 20:13:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:13:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: Noisy EDP From: Jeffrey Lomas To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5.99 Date: 16 May 2002 16:09:45 -0400 Message-Id: <1021579791.3590.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I recently added an EDP to my rig. Since I have had serious noise problems. Anyone else seen this before and/or have recommendations? Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 20:16:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA32686; Thu, 16 May 2002 20:15:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:15:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: Subject: RE: Weird emails from the list Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:11:43 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c1fd37$6d80a2e0$cb68fea9@melon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3CE445DB.D42CEEE1@zerocrossing.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com fyi, there's worms/viruses out there that will scan the addresses in the emails of the victim's software and set the From field to that person's address. could be anybody. good luck, mike -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:51 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Weird emails from the list Hey, All of the sudden, I'm getting lot's of strange emails from people on this list with no body and subjects like "entertainment" Seems that someone, or maybe a bunch of you have some virus issues. Might want to check and see. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 20:22:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00738; Thu, 16 May 2002 20:21:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:21:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 19:20:45 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <01aa01c1fd38$b04df720$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <005901c1fcbe$10f2add0$0bf8c440@g0wn7> <00a101c1fcf3$cbbdf180$080210ac@jpalmer> <005601c1fceb$b7559d40$01f8c440@g0wn7> <011b01c1fd24$8e19a5a0$080210ac@jpalmer> <001701c1fcf9$0e759e10$02f8c440@g0wn7> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com checked the manual and it does say pins 6 and 7... i think the pins might be numbered so that 6 and 7 are the "extra" outside pins... i have been using a standard 5pin midi cable since i got mine... i was thinking midi info was sent on pins 2 and 4, but not sure... > "i think it uses pin 1 and 7 on the midi cable for 9vac" > > i'll need to double-check the manual, but i believe it's pin 6 and 7 that > carry the power. > > what i've done so far is buy a standard 5 pin cable and a 7 pin end. i'll > cut and solder as i need, leaving 4 and 5 (on the 7 pin plug) unattached. > sound good? > > -jim > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 23:08:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13075; Thu, 16 May 2002 23:07:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 23:07:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:06:52 -0700 Subject: Klez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <000501c1fc9f$4221de40$5b2e2697@o4z6b8> Message-Id: <22FE8CAC-6943-11D6-9E3D-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Kids, I'm fairly sure that at least one, and probably a bunch, of you have the Klez virus, and it's sending out emails to everyone in your address book, as well as people you've sent things to before and have copies of those emails in your sent folder. you can get a removal tool here: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.removal.tool. html I know it's not me, as I'm mac only and this virus can only get sent to me, but I can't send it out unless I fwd it. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 23:33:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA14888; Thu, 16 May 2002 23:32:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 23:32:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003301c1fd20$fc7d3790$1ef8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <1021579791.3590.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: Noisy EDP Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 22:31:04 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com what kind of noise? hum, hiss, white noise-ish stuff, etc? -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 16 23:35:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA15217; Thu, 16 May 2002 23:34:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 23:34:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004c01c1fd21$411d6c80$1ef8c440@g0wn7> From: "JAMES R FOWLER, III" To: References: <22FE8CAC-6943-11D6-9E3D-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Klez Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 22:32:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i'm getting klez-infected files at least once a day...sometimes twice. i sure do wish everybody would clean up their p.c.'s... -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 03:34:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA07774; Fri, 17 May 2002 03:32:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 03:32:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 03:31:35 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer(was RE: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: <7bGAQB.A.D5B.9HL58@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 16/05/02 22:18:33 GMT Daylight Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > the Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer, > which has reverb and filters.(+much more) > > not as good as the individual boxes, and you need a MIDI controller > to really mangle in real time. > ...but if cost is a consideration, this undercuts the others by a factor > of about 4. > > Are these units shipping in the US yet? There's one on eBay--what's list? > What's a good price? > > Thanks, > Gary Not yet it seems. Currently the price is TBA, Click here: BEHRINGER : Price List price will, I think, be $159 if you go ebay, make sure you go for the exact model number From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 04:01:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA10421; Fri, 17 May 2002 04:01:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 04:01:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <136.df78014.2a161269@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 03:59:37 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer Sound quality is pretty good, and way beyond what you'd expect for the price. Slight physical hum from the transformer. Reverbs are very thick, kind of pea soup fog. Rather overdone on the presets. ....but very tweakable, so no problems. There are a number of filters. Generally these are OK, but if you've ever played with a top of the range studio filter there's quite a bit of difference to the clarity. The filters with envelope control get quite distorted if the amount of envelope control is turned up. Low pass filter frequency won't go right down to nothing (like it did on the Modulizer DSP 1200P), 100Hz is the low limit. Haven't spent a lot of time with the 2024, but already got sounds I never had before. (like a full electro drum kit from modded guitar sounds!) ...and most effects are highly tweakable Tap time delays are possible using the FCB1010 footpedal, which has a feature to make any MIDI controlled delay tappable. (but only up to 1.2s) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 08:22:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00313; Fri, 17 May 2002 08:21:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 08:21:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 07:26:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Noisy EDP From: Peter Einhorn To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1021579791.3590.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yea, they are kinda noisy. {i assume you meant to put a comma after 'since'). Why I've been considering the new electrix one. [name escapees me]. I find it good for live, bad for studio. > I recently added an EDP to my rig. Since I have had serious noise > problems. Anyone else seen this before and/or have recommendations? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 10:10:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10610; Fri, 17 May 2002 10:08:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:08:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE4FFD3.49F6E40A@vtx.ch> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:04:19 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Noisy EDP References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4jm4W.A.JlC.26Q58@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com One important thing you get with any looper is that you add noize at each overdub pass not because of the looper but because your signal is always noizy . even if the signal you send to the looper seems clean the noize component (as small it can be) in your signal being timbrally the same so it ads up at each pass . the solution and I've been fighting it too remove all noizy component and do proper gain staging after that the edp is not noizy at all. Claude Peter Einhorn wrote: > > yea, they are kinda noisy. {i assume you meant to put a comma after > 'since'). Why I've been considering the new electrix one. [name escapees > me]. I find it good for live, bad for studio. > > > I recently added an EDP to my rig. Since I have had serious noise > > problems. Anyone else seen this before and/or have recommendations? > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 10:34:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12847; Fri, 17 May 2002 10:33:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:33:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "M. Steven Ginn" To: Subject: RE: Noisy EDP Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:33:10 -0500 Message-ID: <021401c1fdaf$c49ad4b0$420e88cf@stevespc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-reply-to: <3CE4FFD3.49F6E40A@vtx.ch> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I would sure be interested in learning the best/proper way to do this so that I can have the optimal signal path. Any suggestions? Reading material? I am also still trying to decide on the best signal path for effects. For example should reverb be applied to the overall loop'ed sound or should it be applied to each overdub/layer of the loop? Do you set it up with Reverb/effects on Aux 1 & EDP on Aux 2 or some other series type of fashion? Thanks, Steve > > One important thing you get with any looper is that you add > noize at each overdub pass not because of the looper but > because your signal is always noizy . even if the signal you > send to the looper seems clean the noize component (as small > it can be) in your signal being timbrally the same so it ads > up at each pass . the solution and I've been fighting it too > remove all noizy component and do proper gain staging > > after that the edp is not noizy at all. > > Claude > > > Peter Einhorn wrote: > > > > yea, they are kinda noisy. {i assume you meant to put a comma after > > 'since'). Why I've been considering the new electrix one. [name > > escapees me]. I find it good for live, bad for studio. > > > > > I recently added an EDP to my rig. Since I have had > serious noise > > > problems. Anyone else seen this before and/or have > recommendations? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 11:12:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16808; Fri, 17 May 2002 11:11:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:11:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009901c1fdb4$bb5c1800$2f645cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #269 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:08:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ] EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #269 May 16, 2002. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Steve Roach and vidnaObmana, who will be making rare concert appearances together at Projektfest and the Gathering this coming Memorial Day weekend. The Featured CD at midnight was their new CD "InnerZone" on the Projekt label. The vinyl show starter was from the LP "White Eagle" by Tangerine Dream on the Wergo Spectrum label. I played the music of Jim Cole who, with Spectral Voices, will be singing at Friends Meeting House in New York City on Friday, May 17. I also played the music of The Ministry of Inside Things who will be performing at the next event in the Soundscapes Concert Series on June 22. Details can be seen on the Events page. Steve Roach & vidnaObmana http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2002/focus02.html#may Jim Cole/Spectral Voices/MOIT http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic/events.html PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Tangerine Dream White Eagle White Eagle (Virgin) Wendy Carlos Allegro from JSB's Switched-On Brandenburgs Brandenburg Concerto (East Side Digital) #1 in F Major Synergy Orbit 5 Reconstructed Artifacts (Third Contact) Synergy Ancestors Reconstructed Artifacts (Third Contact) VA [Rolf Trostel] Kyrie 777 First Decade (Manikin) Ministry of Inside Function Four Live on EMUSIC (Synkronos) Things Cassiel Zoo Station Transit Listen/Move (Atomic City) Ricochet Musos Tannic Tonic Okefenokee Dreams 2001 (Neu Harmony/Quantum) Robert Rich and Last Outpost Outpost (DiN) Ian Boddy Jim Cole Perseverance Godspace (Spectral Spiral) Jim Cole Rapt Bliss * Godspace (Spectral Spiral) 12:00 am Roach & Obmana At the Edge of InnerZone (Projekt) Everything Roach & Obmana Strands InnerZone (Projekt) Roach & Obmana Cloud Space InnerZone (Projekt) Roach & Obmana Encounter Passage InnerZone (Projekt) Roach & Obmana Isolation InnerZone (Projekt) Roach & Obmana InnerZone * InnerZone (Projekt) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach and vidnaObmana. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Live Archive" on the Groove label. The vinyl show starter will be from the LP "Delux" by Harmonia on the Brain label. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://www.tadream.net/soundscapes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 11:18:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17591; Fri, 17 May 2002 11:17:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:17:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: RE: Weird emails from the list Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:16:51 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c1fdb5$e43dae40$0601a8c0@SATAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <3CE445DB.D42CEEE1@zerocrossing.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I did not get this kind of mail, neither in the past when this was discussed here, nor now. Does this mean I'm infected ? Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] > Sent: Freitag, 17. Mai 2002 01:51 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Weird emails from the list > > > Hey, > > All of the sudden, I'm getting lot's of strange emails from > people on this > list with no body and subjects like "entertainment" Seems > that someone, or > maybe a bunch of you have some virus issues. Might want to > check and see. > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 11:40:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19708; Fri, 17 May 2002 11:39:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:39:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: Subject: OT: Weird emails from the list Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:35:19 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c1fdb8$74378550$660a230a@melon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-reply-to: <000501c1fdb5$e43dae40$0601a8c0@SATAN> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <8lLidD.A.FzE.FQS58@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com probably not, make sure your anti-virus software is up to date and scan your system. you could also go to www.sarc.com or mcafee's site, search for klez info, and use that info to first verify that you do or do not have it, and removal instructions if you need them. but up to date anti-virus software is easier ... mike -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill [mailto:rs@moinlabs.de] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:17 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Weird emails from the list I did not get this kind of mail, neither in the past when this was discussed here, nor now. Does this mean I'm infected ? Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] > Sent: Freitag, 17. Mai 2002 01:51 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Weird emails from the list > > > Hey, > > All of the sudden, I'm getting lot's of strange emails from > people on this > list with no body and subjects like "entertainment" Seems > that someone, or > maybe a bunch of you have some virus issues. Might want to > check and see. > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 11:59:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22060; Fri, 17 May 2002 11:59:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:59:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20020517105832.008c2100@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:58:32 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: RE: Noisy EDP In-Reply-To: <021401c1fdaf$c49ad4b0$420e88cf@stevespc> References: <3CE4FFD3.49F6E40A@vtx.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Re: Reverb. My suggestion is to be a bit careful in adding reverb with every overdub. Can get a bit muddy sounding. But, that may be an effect you want for a certain piece. Re: Optimal signal path. What I found is that the confusion ended when i got really clear as to how i wanted to use the EDP. Before that, I was confused as to what to plug into what. Now, i've turned my confusion to other more confusing things. Oh, make sure you have the "unity gain" thing down pat. If not, you won't really get a good listen to the current routing. M... >I would sure be interested in learning the best/proper way to do this so >that I can have the optimal signal path. Any suggestions? Reading >material? I am also still trying to decide on the best signal path for >effects. For example should reverb be applied to the overall loop'ed >sound or should it be applied to each overdub/layer of the loop? Do you >set it up with Reverb/effects on Aux 1 & EDP on Aux 2 or some other >series type of fashion? > >Thanks, >Steve > >> >> One important thing you get with any looper is that you add >> noize at each overdub pass not because of the looper but >> because your signal is always noizy . even if the signal you >> send to the looper seems clean the noize component (as small >> it can be) in your signal being timbrally the same so it ads >> up at each pass . the solution and I've been fighting it too >> remove all noizy component and do proper gain staging >> >> after that the edp is not noizy at all. >> >> Claude >> >> >> Peter Einhorn wrote: >> > >> > yea, they are kinda noisy. {i assume you meant to put a comma after >> > 'since'). Why I've been considering the new electrix one. [name >> > escapees me]. I find it good for live, bad for studio. >> > >> > > I recently added an EDP to my rig. Since I have had >> serious noise >> > > problems. Anyone else seen this before and/or have >> recommendations? >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Jeff >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 12:04:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23868; Fri, 17 May 2002 12:02:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 12:02:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Noisy EDP Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 12:01:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2002 16:01:16.0121 (UTC) FILETIME=[13382490:01C1FDBC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah. I really need to change my signal path too & that's why I want to get a new mixer. I have the rane splitter one & would like to get one w/ a send/return or maybe 2 sends. I have been stacking things i.e. Echo+>voretx>lxp-1> stompboxes>PSA-1> rane sm26 mixer EDP>PCM80> Not to happy with the results but :( >From: "M. Steven Ginn" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: RE: Noisy EDP >Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:33:10 -0500 > >I would sure be interested in learning the best/proper way to do this so >that I can have the optimal signal path. Any suggestions? Reading >material? I am also still trying to decide on the best signal path for >effects. For example should reverb be applied to the overall loop'ed >sound or should it be applied to each overdub/layer of the loop? Do you >set it up with Reverb/effects on Aux 1 & EDP on Aux 2 or some other >series type of fashion? > >Thanks, >Steve _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 13:34:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02751; Fri, 17 May 2002 13:33:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:33:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE53E58.80BCB46F@bagend.com> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 12:31:04 -0500 From: Henry Heine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Noisy EDP References: <021401c1fdaf$c49ad4b0$420e88cf@stevespc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Steve and all, http://www.rane.com/ranegain.html This link details the procedure used by audio pros to optimize signal to noise ratio in audio systems. Rane sells a handy little gizmo that I recommend to loopers in general and anyone with a recording setup. Henry "M. Steven Ginn" wrote: > > I would sure be interested in learning the best/proper way to do this so > that I can have the optimal signal path. Any suggestions? Reading > material? I am also still trying to decide on the best signal path for > effects. For example should reverb be applied to the overall loop'ed > sound or should it be applied to each overdub/layer of the loop? Do you > set it up with Reverb/effects on Aux 1 & EDP on Aux 2 or some other > series type of fashion? > > Thanks, > Steve > > > > > One important thing you get with any looper is that you add > > noize at each overdub pass not because of the looper but > > because your signal is always noizy . even if the signal you > > send to the looper seems clean the noize component (as small > > it can be) in your signal being timbrally the same so it ads > > up at each pass . the solution and I've been fighting it too > > remove all noizy component and do proper gain staging > > > > after that the edp is not noizy at all. > > > > Claude > > > > > > Peter Einhorn wrote: > > > > > > yea, they are kinda noisy. {i assume you meant to put a comma after > > > 'since'). Why I've been considering the new electrix one. [name > > > escapees me]. I find it good for live, bad for studio. > > > > > > > I recently added an EDP to my rig. Since I have had > > serious noise > > > > problems. Anyone else seen this before and/or have > > recommendations? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 14:38:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10184; Fri, 17 May 2002 14:37:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 14:37:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE54D9A.C9D83F27@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:36:08 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer References: <136.df78014.2a161269@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer > > Sound quality is pretty good, and way beyond > what you'd expect for the price. > > Slight physical hum from the transformer. Really? That's not good. I don't get hum from my AirFX, seems weird that they couldn't deal with that. Ground issue maybe? > Reverbs are very thick, kind of pea soup fog. > Rather overdone on the presets. > ....but very tweakable, so no problems. I'm looking for Pea Soup, so that's right up my alley. I also like a nice cream of mushroom. Main course? Lark's Tounge in Aspic, of course > There are a number of filters. > Generally these are OK, but if you've ever played > with a top of the range studio filter there's quite > a bit of difference to the clarity. I'm happy enough with the quality of the filters that are on the Alesis AirFX, so if there at least as good as that, I'm happy. For the studio I do it all in software anyway. > > The filters with envelope control get quite distorted > if the amount of envelope control is turned up. > Low pass filter frequency won't go right down to > nothing (like it did on the Modulizer DSP 1200P), > 100Hz is the low limit. Here's my question: how about filter sweeps? How hard is it to set the sweep duration to a specific time? Can this be done via tap tempo in some way? I'm thinking that for the price, It might be worth it to just program a bunch of patches that corraspond to the BMP of each of the pieces we play live. The fact that the filter doesn't start at the begining of the sequence isn't really that big of a deal, could even make things more interesting. > > > Haven't spent a lot of time with the 2024, but > already got sounds I never had before. > (like a full electro drum kit from modded guitar sounds!) > ...and most effects are highly tweakable you're tempting me! > Tap time delays are possible using the > FCB1010 footpedal, which has a feature to > make any MIDI controlled delay tappable. > (but only up to 1.2s) Is that only for delays, or can you set this to control any mod time? > andy butler Thanks Andy, you're a pal. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 15:00:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13714; Fri, 17 May 2002 14:59:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 14:59:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [67.104.22.70] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Klez Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:58:47 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2002 18:58:47.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFCE0700:01C1FDD4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Klez is a sneaky virus by the way. Even if your computer hasn't been doing funny, I'd suggest downloading that thing from Symantec. It turns out I had the virus for 6 months before my computer crapped out last year. Now, all the backup CDR's I made from that time are heavily infected, and since CDR's can't be altered, they're stuck there. Grrr. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 15:47:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15985; Fri, 17 May 2002 15:46:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:46:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: Klez Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 12:46:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, it's not me--I tested clean (what a relief--see ER last night?) I too have been receiving strange emails--numbers in the subject line, Spice girls vocal concert, pictures of my girl friend, bla bla bla--so I guess there's a bunch of people seeking to cause non-musical havoc. Best of luck to all--but it's not me! Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 17:51:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26134; Fri, 17 May 2002 17:46:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:46:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.199.73.103] From: "mommama" To: References: Subject: Re: Klez Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:46:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2002 21:44:59.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[17990CE0:01C1FDEC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all I want to thank you guys for the heads up on the Klez virus. I don't know how I got it, but I checked out my system and sure enough it was there! I reccommend to everyone to download the file to check for it at symantec the URL is http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.removal.too l.html Not only do you all help with Looping but with saving my system ! Thanks Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 18:17:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29434; Fri, 17 May 2002 18:16:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:16:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020517221542.78778.qmail@web21302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:15:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <136.df78014.2a161269@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <4BfgxC.A.dLH.PEY58@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer > Tap time delays are possible using the > FCB1010 footpedal, which has a feature to > make any MIDI controlled delay tappable. > (but only up to 1.2s) Really! Can you tell us more about how this works? This idea makes me want to get a FCB1010 even more. Might make some older gear seem a lot more contemporary. Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 18:49:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31246; Fri, 17 May 2002 18:48:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:48:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE58898.7851E6F7@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:47:52 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Klez References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'll take full credit ;) you're welcome. Mark Sottilaro mommama wrote: > Hi all > > I want to thank you guys for the heads up on the Klez virus. I don't know > how I got it, but I checked out my system and sure enough it was there! I > reccommend to everyone to download the file to check for it at symantec the > URL is > > http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.removal.too > l.html > > Not only do you all help with Looping but with saving my system ! > > Thanks > > Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 20:25:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06384; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:24:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:24:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:20:33 -0400 From: skincage Subject: trs plugs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <005c01c1fe01$d34ac680$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com does anyone just happen to have a good bulk source for 1/4" TRS plugs? i need to get with the re-cabling. thanks! jon/skincage From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 17 20:39:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07074; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:38:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:38:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE5A271.2410C8CC@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:38:10 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer References: <20020517221542.78778.qmail@web21302.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I think what he's talking about is that the FCB1010 has both MIDI out and "Switch" out. By switch, they mean the type of foot switch that many keyboards use as sustain pedals, and the JamMan and Vortex use for functions. Just a basic momentary non latching switch, I believe. Anyway, you can program any of the FCB1010's switches to send this info with or without a MIDI signal. The unit you're sending it to would have to have a "tap tempo" input, like the Vortex does. Mark Sottilaro Greg House wrote: > --- SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > > Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer > > > Tap time delays are possible using the > > FCB1010 footpedal, which has a feature to > > make any MIDI controlled delay tappable. > > (but only up to 1.2s) > > Really! Can you tell us more about how this works? > > This idea makes me want to get a FCB1010 even more. Might make some > older gear seem a lot more contemporary. > > Greg > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 18 04:43:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18915; Sat, 18 May 2002 04:42:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 04:42:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c1fe47$77d70d40$43fd883e@fastun> From: "Gareth Whittock" To: References: <7c.27ece8d9.2a141d7b@aol.com> Subject: Live webcast Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 09:39:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I'm doing a live webcast today between 2.30 and 3pm British Summer Time. It's part of a 12 hour time-based art exhibition. Wish me luck! Here's the address - www.uwic.ac.uk/csad/timebased/2-12/index.htm It's around there somewhere. Needless to say lots of loopage, Bizzarre guitarre, Normal guitar with malfunctioning sustainiac - unstable moog synth & stuff - rather eastern in flavour. Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 18 05:27:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25141; Sat, 18 May 2002 05:26:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 05:26:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: RE: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 11:26:18 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c1fe4e$12bb8d30$0601a8c0@SATAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3CE5A271.2410C8CC@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mark, Greg, first, there are the two switch outputs, which can be set when calling up any patch or by dedicated footswitches (which double as bank up/down switches). These are latching switches, which can be used fine for controlling a guitar amp, but (without reprogramming or rewiring) I don't see any possibility to control a tap tempo in (vortex-like). Then there's the possibility to send note-on information in time with your tapping to tap a tempo (does anybody know of a delay which can be tapped by note-ons?), and then there's the "tap tempo". This works like this: You specify a maximum delay time for your delay device divided by 10 (with the forementioned maximum value of 1270), and then you specify the controller number for controlling the delay time of your effect and the controller value corresponding to the maximum delay time specified. When you tap the corresponding footswitch, what happens is that the FCB performs a vortex-like algorithm for downscaling the delay time until it falls below the "maximum delay time", then sends the controller value so the delay is tap synced. Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] > Sent: Samstag, 18. Mai 2002 02:38 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer > > > I think what he's talking about is that the FCB1010 has both MIDI out > and "Switch" out. By switch, they mean the type of foot switch that > many keyboards use as sustain pedals, and the JamMan and > Vortex use for > functions. Just a basic momentary non latching switch, I believe. > Anyway, you can program any of the FCB1010's switches to send > this info > with or without a MIDI signal. The unit you're sending it to > would have > to have a "tap tempo" input, like the Vortex does. > > Mark Sottilaro > > Greg House wrote: > > > --- SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > > > Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer > > > > > Tap time delays are possible using the > > > FCB1010 footpedal, which has a feature to > > > make any MIDI controlled delay tappable. > > > (but only up to 1.2s) > > > > Really! Can you tell us more about how this works? > > > > This idea makes me want to get a FCB1010 even more. Might make some > > older gear seem a lot more contemporary. > > > > Greg > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 18 13:21:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28137; Sat, 18 May 2002 13:20:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 13:20:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:19:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <000801c1fe4e$12bb8d30$0601a8c0@SATAN> Message-Id: <78404C85-6A83-11D6-B86C-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I stand corrected, but you're explanation as to the control of delay time using note messages went right over my just woke up in the morning brain. I'll have to re read it later. However, I pretty much realize that, although a great value, the DSP2024 probably isn't going to scratch my itch. What I seemingly want is a Line 6 Mod Pro and Filter Pro in one single rackspace box with some nice reverb on top. Is that too much to ask for? You're pal, Mark On Saturday, May 18, 2002, at 02:26 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Mark, Greg, > > first, there are the two switch outputs, which can be set when calling > up > any patch or by dedicated footswitches (which double as bank up/down > switches). These are latching switches, which can be used fine for > controlling a guitar amp, but (without reprogramming or rewiring) I > don't > see any possibility to control a tap tempo in (vortex-like). > > Then there's the possibility to send note-on information in time with > your > tapping to tap a tempo (does anybody know of a delay which can be > tapped by > note-ons?), and then there's the "tap tempo". This works like this: You > specify a maximum delay time for your delay device divided by 10 (with > the > forementioned maximum value of 1270), and then you specify the > controller > number for controlling the delay time of your effect and the controller > value corresponding to the maximum delay time specified. When you tap > the > corresponding footswitch, what happens is that the FCB performs a > vortex-like algorithm for downscaling the delay time until it falls > below > the "maximum delay time", then sends the controller value so the delay > is > tap synced. > > Rainer > > Rainer Straschill > Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de > digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de > The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] >> Sent: Samstag, 18. Mai 2002 02:38 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer >> >> >> I think what he's talking about is that the FCB1010 has both MIDI out >> and "Switch" out. By switch, they mean the type of foot switch that >> many keyboards use as sustain pedals, and the JamMan and >> Vortex use for >> functions. Just a basic momentary non latching switch, I believe. >> Anyway, you can program any of the FCB1010's switches to send >> this info >> with or without a MIDI signal. The unit you're sending it to >> would have >> to have a "tap tempo" input, like the Vortex does. >> >> Mark Sottilaro >> >> Greg House wrote: >> >>> --- SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: >>>> Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer >>> >>>> Tap time delays are possible using the >>>> FCB1010 footpedal, which has a feature to >>>> make any MIDI controlled delay tappable. >>>> (but only up to 1.2s) >>> >>> Really! Can you tell us more about how this works? >>> >>> This idea makes me want to get a FCB1010 even more. Might make some >>> older gear seem a lot more contemporary. >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >>> http://launch.yahoo.com >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 18 17:04:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00785; Sat, 18 May 2002 17:03:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:03:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015c01c1feaf$a2538900$1602a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: "The Ambient Ping List" Subject: The Ambient Ping presents Sara Ayers and Mara's Torment Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:04:43 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com THE AMBiENT PiNG http://www.theambientping.com Every Tuesday Night - doors open at 9pm - 1st set at 9:30 @ club nia / C'est What - 19 Church St. at Front St. - Toronto 3 blocks east of the Union Station subway. map - http://www.cestwhat.com/map.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . This Tuesday May 21st - Sara Ayers and Mara's Torment Visiting us from Albany New York, Sara Ayers unleashes her sampled, looped and layered vocals with occasional guitar washes and warm noise...ethereal atmospheres, dense memories of dreams and sparkling fragments of stories conveyed by a voice that shifts from guttural lows to silvery, trilling highs in the space of a heartbeat. Click below to hear one of Sara's haunting voicescapes: Mp3 - http://www.saraayers.com/mp3/strandofpearls.m3u RealAudio - http://www.saraayers.com/real/strandofpearls.ram More from Sara Ayers - http://www.saraayers.com/newcd.htm Inspired by falling rain, subway cars, white noise, and of course his increasingly vocal cat, rik maclean returns to The Ambient Ping for another set of songs inspired by absence and the burdens of geography. Playing songs from his forthcoming CD "The Last Night is the Hardest" along with the dreaded Ambient-Ozzy medley, Mara's Torment set will cover a broad range of human emotions and don't be surprised if you see a collaboration with Sara. Mara's Torment - http://www.corpusnet.com/torment Between sets CD - "Low" (Side 2) by David Bowie (RCA/Ryko) Influenced by Brian Eno & German electronic musings, these sparce moody instrumentals from 1977, anticipated many ambient-related directions in music for the next two decades. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Ambient Ping presents free live performances by Toronto's finest ambient, chillout and experimental music artists plus performers from across the continent, every Tuesday at club nia (aka C'est What) featuring a comfortable lower stage area, perfect for attentive listening, plus a higher level with a bar, back room and more seating that's great for conversation, good food and the club's impressive beer, wine and whiskey selection. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Coming May 28th 2002 - Random Act http://www.mp3.com/Random_Act . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any friends who may be interested in live ambient and experimental performances. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 18 17:20:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03000; Sat, 18 May 2002 17:18:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:18:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01f601c1feb1$d005ebc0$1602a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: The Ambient Ping presents Sara Ayers and Mara's Torment Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:20:19 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com THE AMBiENT PiNG http://www.theambientping.com Every Tuesday Night - doors open at 9pm - 1st set at 9:30 @ club nia / C'est What - 19 Church St. at Front St. - Toronto 3 blocks east of the Union Station subway. map - http://www.cestwhat.com/map.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . This Tuesday May 21st - Sara Ayers and Mara's Torment Visiting us from Albany New York, Sara Ayers unleashes her sampled, looped and layered vocals with occasional guitar washes and warm noise...ethereal atmospheres, dense memories of dreams and sparkling fragments of stories conveyed by a voice that shifts from guttural lows to silvery, trilling highs in the space of a heartbeat. Click below to hear one of Sara's haunting voicescapes: Mp3 - http://www.saraayers.com/mp3/strandofpearls.m3u RealAudio - http://www.saraayers.com/real/strandofpearls.ram More from Sara Ayers - http://www.saraayers.com/newcd.htm Inspired by falling rain, subway cars, white noise, and of course his increasingly vocal cat, rik maclean returns to The Ambient Ping for another set of songs inspired by absence and the burdens of geography. Playing songs from his forthcoming CD "The Last Night is the Hardest" along with the dreaded Ambient-Ozzy medley, Mara's Torment set will cover a broad range of human emotions and don't be surprised if you see a collaboration with Sara. Mara's Torment - http://www.corpusnet.com/torment Between sets CD - "Low" (Side 2) by David Bowie (RCA/Ryko) Influenced by Brian Eno & German electronic musings, these sparce moody instrumentals from 1977, anticipated many ambient-related directions in music for the next two decades. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Ambient Ping presents free live performances by Toronto's finest ambient, chillout and experimental music artists plus performers from across the continent, every Tuesday at club nia (aka C'est What) featuring a comfortable lower stage area, perfect for attentive listening, plus a higher level with a bar, back room and more seating that's great for conversation, good food and the club's impressive beer, wine and whiskey selection. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Coming May 28th 2002 - Random Act http://www.mp3.com/Random_Act . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any friends who may be interested in live ambient and experimental performances. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 18 18:33:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14087; Sat, 18 May 2002 18:31:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 18:31:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE6D6AA.4454D894@friendlyspider.com> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:35:46 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Portable mixer with phantom..... References: <01f601c1feb1$d005ebc0$1602a8c0@WorkGroup> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anybody have a line on a portable (battery powered) mixer for remote recording ? Requirements: Minimum 2 XLR mic inputs....stereo operation Phantom power at 48 Volts. -10 line level output OK Battery powered with optional AC adapter. I know Sure and some other companies have offerings in the $800 plus range.... I'd like to spend under $200. Behringer has a portable guy but it only puts out 18V for phantom powering....and that won't cut it. Now it I could retrofit it for phantom at 48V somehow....... -- gary @friendlyspider.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 18 19:10:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19729; Sat, 18 May 2002 19:09:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 19:09:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: ArsOcarina@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 19:08:18 EDT Subject: OT -- USB audio interfaces To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I'm trying to put together a little portable system using my G3 iBook to make live recordings. I've been looking at the Edirol UA-1A USB Audio Interface, which seems simple enough to suit my purposes (if it does in fact work). That, a couple of decent mics and ProTools and I'll be good to go . . . I think. Anyone out there with experience with a UA-1A? Got any other USB audio interface suggestions? Thanks, Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 18 20:22:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA26925; Sat, 18 May 2002 20:21:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 20:21:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE6F05B.C9538F81@friendlyspider.com> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 19:25:32 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'd take a hard look at the Tascam US-224 and compare it to the Edirol.....you can download a pdf from Tascam.... -- gary @friendlyspider.com ArsOcarina@aol.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to put together a little portable system > using my G3 iBook to make live recordings. I've been > looking at the Edirol UA-1A USB Audio Interface, > which seems simple enough to suit my purposes > (if it does in fact work). That, a couple of decent > mics and ProTools and I'll be good to go . . . I think. > Anyone out there with experience with a UA-1A? > Got any other USB audio interface suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 19 02:54:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA31962; Sun, 19 May 2002 02:53:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 02:53:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c1ff01$bc7ad020$c72e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 08:52:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <__ubMB.A.3xH.Wv058@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi. I would steer away from usb audio interfaces. The ones I have tried seemed to be really unreliable and cpu-heavy. To make live recordings I'm actually buying a RME Hammerfall (it is a cardbus device + external half/rack module). It gives me the possibility to record at a really high quality up to 24 tracks on three adat In and Outs, with the Digiface module, and I know that there is the Multiface module that has balanced I/O + adat I/O + SP/DIF and midi. It is really reliable and it has Asio2.0 drivers for a real low latency. Plus, if you want you can connect with a PCI card the same modules to your desktop, too. For informations you can take a look on the www.RME.com site. It is cheaper than the various MOTU devices. Or, if you have a firewire interface, you could take a look to www.motu.com , since they have various Firewire devices. Peace Luigi ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:08 AM Subject: OT -- USB audio interfaces > Hi all, > > I'm trying to put together a little portable system > using my G3 iBook to make live recordings. I've been > looking at the Edirol UA-1A USB Audio Interface, > which seems simple enough to suit my purposes > (if it does in fact work). That, a couple of decent > mics and ProTools and I'll be good to go . . . I think. > Anyone out there with experience with a UA-1A? > Got any other USB audio interface suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Ted Killian > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 19 06:37:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA28579; Sun, 19 May 2002 06:36:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 06:36:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c1ff20$f7dd5b00$0201a8c0@eluk> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <7c.27ece8d9.2a141d7b@aol.com> <000701c1fe47$77d70d40$43fd883e@fastun> Subject: Possibly OT: Theremin Question Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 11:35:58 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Ho Looperinos, I've a question about the Theremin: Has anyone made a MIDI controller out of one, such that movement in a sector of space might represent, say, a volume or color change? Thanks. Stephen P. Goodman EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios - The Free Loop of the Week! http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons! http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack.html - More Cartoons! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 19 06:45:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29040; Sun, 19 May 2002 06:44:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 06:44:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: RE: Possibly OT: Theremin Question Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 12:44:19 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c1ff22$244e3280$0601a8c0@SATAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <000901c1ff20$f7dd5b00$0201a8c0@eluk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Stephen, there is the Doepfer Audiosystem, a modular "oldskool" synthesizer system, for which CV-to-MIDI and Theremin modules are available. Check their website at www.doepfer.de. Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen P. Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] > Sent: Sonntag, 19. Mai 2002 12:36 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Possibly OT: Theremin Question > > > Hey Ho Looperinos, > > I've a question about the Theremin: Has anyone made a MIDI > controller out of > one, such that movement in a sector of space might represent, > say, a volume > or color change? Thanks. > > Stephen P. Goodman > EarthLight Productions > * > http://www.earthlight.net/Studios - The Free Loop of the Week! > http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons! > http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack.html - More Cartoons! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 19 10:49:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26170; Sun, 19 May 2002 10:49:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 10:49:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: burnett@pobox.com X-Authentication-Warning: giggles.cavesofice.org: badger owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 10:50:23 -0400 (EDT) X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Possibly OT: Theremin Question In-Reply-To: <000901c1ff20$f7dd5b00$0201a8c0@eluk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Sun, 19 May 2002, Stephen P. Goodman wrote: > Hey Ho Looperinos, > > I've a question about the Theremin: Has anyone made a MIDI controller out of > one, such that movement in a sector of space might represent, say, a volume > or color change? Thanks. The BigBriar Ethervox has MIDI out. http://www.bigbriar.com/ Click on Products, then theremins, then the Ethervox is about halfway down the page, if the absurdly long URL below doesn't work directly: http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/spec/ethervox.html?L+scstore+rmrl2311ff024502+1047024912 Fullerton in the UK makes a theremin MIDI/CV Interface. http://www.fullerton.demon.co.uk/page5.html best, Steve -- Steve Burnett burnett@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~burnett/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 19 14:54:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18487; Sun, 19 May 2002 14:53:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:53:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 11:52:23 -0700 Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Kevin Cooney To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <000b01c1ff01$bc7ad020$c72e2697@o4z6b8> Message-Id: <8E7059C0-6B59-11D6-9C95-0005023DBAD9@opendoor.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: <3iNve.A.QgE.zR_58@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My experience with the Tascam 428 running along with an 500 mhz imac and a fast 7500 ibm hardrive, has been excellent. I've repeatedly read about the horrors of the USB audio interface. Bottom line, the 428 has proved to be an excellent product for digital recording, and the USB interface on my Mac has worked very well. Best, Kevin On Saturday, May 18, 2002, at 11:52 PM, Luigi Meloni wrote: > Hi. I would steer away from usb audio interfaces. The ones I have tried > seemed to be really unreliable and cpu-heavy. To make live recordings > I'm > actually buying a RME Hammerfall (it is a cardbus device + external > half/rack module). It gives me the possibility to record at a really > high > quality up to 24 tracks on three adat In and Outs, with the Digiface > module, > and I know that there is the Multiface module that has balanced I/O + > adat > I/O + SP/DIF and midi. It is really reliable and it has Asio2.0 drivers > for > a real low latency. Plus, if you want you can connect with a PCI card > the > same modules to your desktop, too. For informations you can take a look > on > the www.RME.com site. It is cheaper than the various MOTU devices. > Or, if you have a firewire interface, you could take a look to > www.motu.com > , since they have various Firewire devices. > > Peace > Luigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:08 AM > Subject: OT -- USB audio interfaces > > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm trying to put together a little portable system >> using my G3 iBook to make live recordings. I've been >> looking at the Edirol UA-1A USB Audio Interface, >> which seems simple enough to suit my purposes >> (if it does in fact work). That, a couple of decent >> mics and ProTools and I'll be good to go . . . I think. >> Anyone out there with experience with a UA-1A? >> Got any other USB audio interface suggestions? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ted Killian >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 19 16:59:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32150; Sun, 19 May 2002 16:58:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:58:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Hoby Ebert" To: "LoopersDelightlist" Subject: TEST - PLEASE ignore Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:58:59 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ******** Music may be seen as a vehicle, as a window, or a bunch of guys driving a vehicle through a window. - Phrazz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 19 18:55:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09418; Sun, 19 May 2002 18:54:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 18:54:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003701c1ff87$a7e5af00$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> From: "Butch" To: References: <000b01c1ff01$bc7ad020$c72e2697@o4z6b8> Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 18:51:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi: I have a Tascam USB 428 unit, also. It's a pretty decent gizmo. I have had good results with Cubase VST/32, Reason and ACID Pro. Regards, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 2:52 AM Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces > Hi. I would steer away from usb audio interfaces. The ones I have tried > seemed to be really unreliable and cpu-heavy. To make live recordings I'm > actually buying a RME Hammerfall (it is a cardbus device + external > half/rack module). It gives me the possibility to record at a really high > quality up to 24 tracks on three adat In and Outs, with the Digiface module, > and I know that there is the Multiface module that has balanced I/O + adat > I/O + SP/DIF and midi. It is really reliable and it has Asio2.0 drivers for > a real low latency. Plus, if you want you can connect with a PCI card the > same modules to your desktop, too. For informations you can take a look on > the www.RME.com site. It is cheaper than the various MOTU devices. > Or, if you have a firewire interface, you could take a look to www.motu.com > , since they have various Firewire devices. > > Peace > Luigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:08 AM > Subject: OT -- USB audio interfaces > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm trying to put together a little portable system > > using my G3 iBook to make live recordings. I've been > > looking at the Edirol UA-1A USB Audio Interface, > > which seems simple enough to suit my purposes > > (if it does in fact work). That, a couple of decent > > mics and ProTools and I'll be good to go . . . I think. > > Anyone out there with experience with a UA-1A? > > Got any other USB audio interface suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ted Killian > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 19 19:00:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11494; Sun, 19 May 2002 18:59:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 18:59:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 18:02:09 -0500 From: Richard Holland Subject: Tascam and Acid Pro In-reply-to: <003701c1ff87$a7e5af00$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> X-Sender: rjholland@wiscmail.wisc.edu To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020519180142.024bb940@wiscmail.wisc.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <000b01c1ff01$bc7ad020$c72e2697@o4z6b8> Resent-Message-ID: <--5SND.A.DfC.t4C68@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No Kidding, I never even tried, did you need to get special drivers? At 06:51 PM 5/19/02 -0400, you wrote: >Hi: > >I have a Tascam USB 428 unit, also. It's a pretty decent gizmo. I have had >good results with Cubase VST/32, Reason and ACID Pro. > >Regards, Paul >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Luigi Meloni" >To: >Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 2:52 AM >Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces > > > > Hi. I would steer away from usb audio interfaces. The ones I have tried > > seemed to be really unreliable and cpu-heavy. To make live recordings I'm > > actually buying a RME Hammerfall (it is a cardbus device + external > > half/rack module). It gives me the possibility to record at a really high > > quality up to 24 tracks on three adat In and Outs, with the Digiface >module, > > and I know that there is the Multiface module that has balanced I/O + adat > > I/O + SP/DIF and midi. It is really reliable and it has Asio2.0 drivers >for > > a real low latency. Plus, if you want you can connect with a PCI card the > > same modules to your desktop, too. For informations you can take a look on > > the www.RME.com site. It is cheaper than the various MOTU devices. > > Or, if you have a firewire interface, you could take a look to >www.motu.com > > , since they have various Firewire devices. > > > > Peace > > Luigi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:08 AM > > Subject: OT -- USB audio interfaces > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm trying to put together a little portable system > > > using my G3 iBook to make live recordings. I've been > > > looking at the Edirol UA-1A USB Audio Interface, > > > which seems simple enough to suit my purposes > > > (if it does in fact work). That, a couple of decent > > > mics and ProTools and I'll be good to go . . . I think. > > > Anyone out there with experience with a UA-1A? > > > Got any other USB audio interface suggestions? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Ted Killian > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 00:21:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09424; Mon, 20 May 2002 00:20:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 00:20:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Looping9string@aol.com Message-ID: <40.1df3aa72.2a19d354@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 00:19:32 EDT Subject: fruity loops sampling question... To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_40.1df3aa72.2a19d354_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10500 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_40.1df3aa72.2a19d354_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fruity loops, How do I record my bass and create a wave file to import into fruity loops? Random comment: GIBSON's EDP tech support is impossible to reach... I'm about to fix this EDP with a big ol hammer! --part1_40.1df3aa72.2a19d354_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fruity loops,

How do I record my bass and create a wave file to import into fruity loops?





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GIBSON's EDP tech support is impossible to reach... I'm about to fix this EDP with a big ol hammer! --part1_40.1df3aa72.2a19d354_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 04:28:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14292; Mon, 20 May 2002 04:27:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 04:27:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c1ffd8$16ef60d0$b1cec22b@camb.scee.sony.co.uk> From: "Os" To: References: <000b01c1ff01$bc7ad020$c72e2697@o4z6b8> Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:26:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've heard good things about both the Hammerfall devices and the MOTU stuff, but I think you're wrong about the Hammerfall being cheaper. E.g. at audiomidi.com: MOTU 828 - $699 Hammerfall DSP cardbus+multiface - $1040 cheers, os. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 7:52 AM Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces > Hi. I would steer away from usb audio interfaces. The ones I have tried > seemed to be really unreliable and cpu-heavy. To make live recordings I'm > actually buying a RME Hammerfall (it is a cardbus device + external > half/rack module). It gives me the possibility to record at a really high > quality up to 24 tracks on three adat In and Outs, with the Digiface module, > and I know that there is the Multiface module that has balanced I/O + adat > I/O + SP/DIF and midi. It is really reliable and it has Asio2.0 drivers for > a real low latency. Plus, if you want you can connect with a PCI card the > same modules to your desktop, too. For informations you can take a look on > the www.RME.com site. It is cheaper than the various MOTU devices. > Or, if you have a firewire interface, you could take a look to www.motu.com > , since they have various Firewire devices. > > Peace > Luigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:08 AM > Subject: OT -- USB audio interfaces > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm trying to put together a little portable system > > using my G3 iBook to make live recordings. I've been > > looking at the Edirol UA-1A USB Audio Interface, > > which seems simple enough to suit my purposes > > (if it does in fact work). That, a couple of decent > > mics and ProTools and I'll be good to go . . . I think. > > Anyone out there with experience with a UA-1A? > > Got any other USB audio interface suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ted Killian > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 05:40:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA26318; Mon, 20 May 2002 05:39:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 05:39:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c1ffe2$01e410a0$e72e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <000b01c1ff01$bc7ad020$c72e2697@o4z6b8> <000901c1ffd8$16ef60d0$b1cec22b@camb.scee.sony.co.uk> Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:37:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I was relating the Rme digiface to the Motu 2408 mkII which has almost the same potentiality. And here in Italy the RME is a lot cheaper than the Motu, even the 828. Plus the RME should be 24/96, so you should compare its price with the motu 896. Peace Luigi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Os" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces > I've heard good things about both the Hammerfall devices and the MOTU stuff, > but I think you're wrong about the Hammerfall being cheaper. E.g. at > audiomidi.com: > MOTU 828 - $699 > Hammerfall DSP cardbus+multiface - $1040 > > > cheers, > os. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luigi Meloni" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces > > > > Hi. I would steer away from usb audio interfaces. The ones I have tried > > seemed to be really unreliable and cpu-heavy. To make live recordings I'm > > actually buying a RME Hammerfall (it is a cardbus device + external > > half/rack module). It gives me the possibility to record at a really high > > quality up to 24 tracks on three adat In and Outs, with the Digiface > module, > > and I know that there is the Multiface module that has balanced I/O + adat > > I/O + SP/DIF and midi. It is really reliable and it has Asio2.0 drivers > for > > a real low latency. Plus, if you want you can connect with a PCI card the > > same modules to your desktop, too. For informations you can take a look on > > the www.RME.com site. It is cheaper than the various MOTU devices. > > Or, if you have a firewire interface, you could take a look to > www.motu.com > > , since they have various Firewire devices. > > > > Peace > > Luigi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:08 AM > > Subject: OT -- USB audio interfaces > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm trying to put together a little portable system > > > using my G3 iBook to make live recordings. I've been > > > looking at the Edirol UA-1A USB Audio Interface, > > > which seems simple enough to suit my purposes > > > (if it does in fact work). That, a couple of decent > > > mics and ProTools and I'll be good to go . . . I think. > > > Anyone out there with experience with a UA-1A? > > > Got any other USB audio interface suggestions? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Ted Killian > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 05:59:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA28258; Mon, 20 May 2002 05:58:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 05:58:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <179.88e3144.2a1a2287@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 05:57:27 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > Re: Behringer DSP2024 Virtualizer > > Slight physical hum from the transformer. > > Really? That's not good. I don't get hum from my AirFX, seems weird > that they couldn't deal with that. Ground issue maybe? It's audible hum, not sent out electrically. The transformer creates a magnetic field, which vibrates the metal casing. Happens quite often with boxes that have no wall wart. > > Here's my question: how about filter sweeps? How hard is it to set the > sweep duration to a specific time? dial in the no. of Hz > > Tap time delays are possible using the > > FCB1010 footpedal, which has a feature to > > make any MIDI controlled delay tappable. > > (but only up to 1.2s) > > Is that only for delays, or can you set this to control any mod time? I haven't done any of this yet, but looks like a very powerful function. Any MIDI delay can be tap time, provided that the delay times are on a linear scale. Be sure and look over Rainer's excellent description. What is actually sent is not Note-Ons, or switches, but a Controller value. The CC number is specified, and the value sent is derived from the time delay between 2 button presses. You define the max delay time(max of 1.2s), and the range of values that the device uses.(eg, 0-127, or 0-63) ...so if you wanted you could control longer delay times by telling the FCB1010 the there was a fraction of the actual delay time (say an eighth). Then you could tap a quarter note and get 2 bars of 4/4 (or whatever). ..or tap the whole 2 bars, and probably still get the right time, as the FCB1010 divides the time by 2 until its small enough. Unfortunately, filter sweep times generally have their controls the "wrong way round" to be able to tap the sweep time. ...a higher value is a faster sweep. So the faster you tap, the slower the sweep. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 06:47:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA05335; Mon, 20 May 2002 06:46:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 06:46:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020520104603.69126.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 03:46:03 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0BC9713B-6709-11D6-8C26-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mark, Did you ever check out the Lexicon MPX-1? http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/1997_articles/jan97/lexiconmpx1.html It seems to be your best bet this side of an Eventide. John --- Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > So here's my deal. I'm looking for the "perfect" > processor to put in > the stereo effects loop of my Repeater. Since I > know "perfect" doesn't > exist, I'll settle for less. I'm thinking of the > Lexicon MPX500. > Anyone with experience with that baby? > > Here's some of what I'd like to see: > > Stereo ins and outs a must. > > Line level operation a must. (getting the levels > right for the Vortex > was a bitch) > > MIDI synchable effects. I really liked the Lexicon > Vortex for synched > effects, but having to deal with that tap tempo all > the time drove me > nuts. Need to keep my hands on my guitar! > > Some good meat and potato effects and some wacky > stuff. Ping Ponging > delays of maddness. Nice sweep filters. > > A SINGLE rack space. (it's all I have left and I > will not go back to > two racks!) > > Good sound quality. Hell, it's replacing a Digitech > DSP128, so if it's > as good or better than that I'm set. I guess my > priorities lie with > loop *manglege* > > So that's it. I've had thoughts about waiting for > the KAOSS pad II > (anyone have an inkling as to when this is going to > be released?), but > would like to keep it in the rack as much as I can. > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 08:49:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21300; Mon, 20 May 2002 08:48:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 08:48:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: cabode@gmx.de Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:46:52 +0200 (MEST) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Lexicon Vortex Wanted X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001221645@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [145.254.131.3] Message-ID: <31014.1021898812@www62.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I'm looking for a Lexicon Vortex in a good technical and optical condition. Anyone to sell? Shipping to Germany needed though. Regards Herbie -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 09:00:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA23294; Mon, 20 May 2002 08:59:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 08:59:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE8E2F9.95E1C955@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:50:17 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: fruity loops sampling question... References: <40.1df3aa72.2a19d354@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Random comment: >GIBSON's EDP tech support is impossible to reach... I'm about to fix this EDP with a big ol hammer! this is the place, there is more EDP know how here than anywhere on the planet and there is also 10's of edp pages here http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html welcome Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 09:09:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24007; Mon, 20 May 2002 09:08:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:08:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:07:48 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2002 13:07:54.0604 (UTC) FILETIME=[5AABDAC0:01C1FFFF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Has anybody checked out the Mbox? thanks Lou _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 10:35:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29130; Mon, 20 May 2002 10:34:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:34:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Skylabpr@aol.com Message-ID: <80.1be19879.2a1a6335@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:33:25 EDT Subject: Re: Lexicon Vortex Wanted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 10:41:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29726; Mon, 20 May 2002 10:41:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:41:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Skylabpr@aol.com Message-ID: <110.127399a5.2a1a64cf@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:40:15 EDT Subject: Re: Lexicon Vortex Wanted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 20 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes i do have a vortex that i just took out off my rack, i wasn't planning to sell it but, if you make me an offer i cant refuse i will change my mind. Pietro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 11:02:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31876; Mon, 20 May 2002 11:01:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:01:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WM-Posted-At: mail.revenue.state.il.us; Mon, 20 May 02 10:10:12 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.1 Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:00:26 -0500 From: "KEVIN SIMONSON" To: Subject: FS/FT: Electrix Warp Factory Vocoder. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com $150.00 shipping included within continental US. Includes manual, box, *excellent* condition. Racked, never gigged. I would like to trade toward a Boss GT-5 or comparable preamp/multieffects unit. Thanks -K From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 11:08:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA32427; Mon, 20 May 2002 11:07:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:07:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAyeWffmUKB2ak8SuPIDtkcsPIZqYCFQCnVpR86BqHIZz+pXN+EKCsUY0Z8w== From: BILLYBUDDHA@webtv.net (William Mcallister) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 08:06:42 -0700 (PDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: fruity loops sampling question... Message-ID: <4975-3CE91102-1365@storefull-2355.public.lawson.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Claude Voit 's message of Mon, 20 May 2002 13:50:17 +0200 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A GOOD hammer can fix anything. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 11:15:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00444; Mon, 20 May 2002 11:14:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:14:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RandomLFO@aol.com Message-ID: <6e.1cd71b89.2a1a6c5d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:12:29 EDT Subject: Re: OT -- USB audio interfaces To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Resent-Message-ID: <3DWoM.A.dG.IKR68@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have heard many mixed reviews of the USB audio interfaces. It is very good that someone using the Tascam has replied. It's really dependant on what one's needs are. From what I understand, the USB interfaces will only allow 2 ins & 2 outs simlutaneously. This will actually be quite fine for many live performance situations. If you only needed to record one stereo track at a time, then you woud be fine on the recording side too. I don't know if there are any monitoring latency issues to deal with though. A big plus to the Tascam is the fact that it has the 8 user assignable faders. Make sure that your software will work with any interface you want to buy. I think that the USB interfaces are mostly focused on ASIO applications for now. I am also wondering if any of the current USB interfaces will be upwardly compatible with the newer USB 2.0 spec. A very important question is, how much CPU power does the particular interface you are interested in take to run? On paper, it looks like the best interface available for Laptops is the RME Multiface. They claim that they are transparent to the CPU. They also allow the user to send ASIO out ports 1&2, GSIF out ports 3&4, MME out 5&6... (port assignments are not fixed). The RME is more expensive than the MOTU 828, but less expensive than the 896. >From using a MOTU 2408 on a PC, I feel that the MOTU is really meant for a Mac setup. As previously mentioned, the standard price for the 828 is $699.00, but I have seen it for $679.00 at MIDI Classics. Most retailers are selling The Echo Layla and Mona Laptop interfaces for $799.00, but they can be purchased from 8thStreet for $695.00. I just purchased an Echo Audio Layla24 Laptop interface. I actually wanted to buy an RME Multiface, but none were available. From talking to a dozen or so retailers (US), it looked like it would be a month or two before anyone would have one in stock. So when they become available again, I might trade-in my Layla for a Multiface. I might also find that I am perfectly happy with the Layla. Marc In a message dated 05/20/2002 1:27:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lists@collective.co.uk writes: > I've heard good things about both the Hammerfall devices and the MOTU stuff, > but I think you're wrong about the Hammerfall being cheaper. E.g. at > audiomidi.com: > MOTU 828 - $699 > Hammerfall DSP cardbus+multiface - $1040 > > > cheers, > os. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 11:56:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02348; Mon, 20 May 2002 11:55:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:55:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:54:42 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: trs plugs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <008801c20016$a8220ec0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <005c01c1fe01$d34ac680$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i think mouser electronics had a good price on neutriks. but you should also check digikey, allied, newark, etc... switchcraft are also good and a bit cheaper, but i like the neutriks... > does anyone just happen to have a good bulk source for 1/4" TRS plugs? i need to get with the > re-cabling. thanks! > > jon/skincage > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 12:03:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04094; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:02:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:02:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020520160213.66089.qmail@web21308.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: trs plugs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <008801c20016$a8220ec0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Last time I shopped for plugs, the best price I found was from Markertek. They beat the electronics places by a large margin at that point in time. I also prefer Neutriks, especially for TRS plugs. They are MUCH easier to solder into. Switchcraft TRS's are tedious. I like the Neutrik strain reliefs better too. The only downside to Neutrik 1/4" plugs is that the body is slightly larger, so they might not fit if you had a tight connection. Greg --- jim palmer wrote: > i think mouser electronics had a good price on neutriks. > but you should also check digikey, allied, newark, etc... > > switchcraft are also good and a bit cheaper, but i like the > neutriks... > > > does anyone just happen to have a good bulk source for 1/4" TRS > plugs? i need to get with the > > re-cabling. thanks! > > > > jon/skincage > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 12:08:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04486; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:07:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:07:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: trs plugs Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:06:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've ordered from partsexpress.com with some success. can't compare price with other mentioned but for items I know the price for they were competetive. and they shipped hella fast. -----Original Message----- From: Greg House [mailto:ghunicycle@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:02 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: trs plugs Last time I shopped for plugs, the best price I found was from Markertek. They beat the electronics places by a large margin at that point in time. I also prefer Neutriks, especially for TRS plugs. They are MUCH easier to solder into. Switchcraft TRS's are tedious. I like the Neutrik strain reliefs better too. The only downside to Neutrik 1/4" plugs is that the body is slightly larger, so they might not fit if you had a tight connection. Greg --- jim palmer wrote: > i think mouser electronics had a good price on neutriks. > but you should also check digikey, allied, newark, etc... > > switchcraft are also good and a bit cheaper, but i like the > neutriks... > > > does anyone just happen to have a good bulk source for 1/4" TRS > plugs? i need to get with the > > re-cabling. thanks! > > > > jon/skincage > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 12:17:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05105; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:16:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:16:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Possibly OT: Theremin Question Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:15:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C20019.915B3010" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20019.915B3010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" and Paia.com has something similar for a fraction the price: The Theremax which has CV out and a CV to midi converter kit. -----Original Message----- From: burnett@pobox.com [mailto:burnett@pobox.com] Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:50 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Possibly OT: Theremin Question On Sun, 19 May 2002, Stephen P. Goodman wrote: > Hey Ho Looperinos, > > I've a question about the Theremin: Has anyone made a MIDI controller out of > one, such that movement in a sector of space might represent, say, a volume > or color change? Thanks. The BigBriar Ethervox has MIDI out. http://www.bigbriar.com/ Click on Products, then theremins, then the Ethervox is about halfway down the page, if the absurdly long URL below doesn't work directly: http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/spec/ethervox.html?L+scst ore+rmrl2311ff024502+1047024912 Fullerton in the UK makes a theremin MIDI/CV Interface. http://www.fullerton.demon.co.uk/page5.html best, Steve -- Steve Burnett burnett@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~burnett/ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20019.915B3010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Possibly OT: Theremin Question

and Paia.com has something similar for a fraction the = price: The Theremax which has CV out and a CV to midi converter = kit.

-----Original Message-----
From: burnett@pobox.com [mailto:burnett@pobox.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:50 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Possibly OT: Theremin Question


On Sun, 19 May 2002, Stephen P. Goodman wrote:

> Hey Ho Looperinos,
>
> I've a question about the Theremin: Has anyone = made a MIDI controller out of
> one, such that movement in a sector of space = might represent, say, a volume
> or color change?  Thanks.

The BigBriar Ethervox has MIDI out.
http://www.bigbriar.com/

Click on Products, then theremins, then the Ethervox = is about halfway
down the page, if the absurdly long URL below = doesn't work directly:
http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/spe= c/ethervox.html?L+scstore+rmrl2311ff024502+1047024912

Fullerton in the UK makes a theremin MIDI/CV = Interface.
http://www.fullerton.demon.co.uk/page5.html=

best,
Steve
--
Steve Burnett    = burnett@pobox.com   http://www.pobox.com/~burnett/


------_=_NextPart_001_01C20019.915B3010-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 12:18:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05273; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:17:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:17:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:13:55 -0400 From: skincage Subject: Re: trs plugs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <00a401c20019$575b9f80$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks everyone, now i've got some good places to start. i appreciate it! btw, kinda dumb question here but: is the spacing any different between 1/4" TRS plugs and 1/4" stereo plugs? i assume not but i wanted to make sure first, i've seen some good deals on "stereo" plugs and i've been wondering if it's close enough to just use them as trs mono. thanks again jon/skincage From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 14:01:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13335; Mon, 20 May 2002 14:00:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:00:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE9399C.E13FEBA8@zerocrossing.net> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:59:57 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lexicon MPX500=good loop mangler? References: <20020520104603.69126.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah, that does look perfect... I'm not sure I can swing the $700 US for one right now though. Maybe if I save up... Mark John Tidwell wrote: > Mark, > > Did you ever check out the Lexicon MPX-1? > > http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/1997_articles/jan97/lexiconmpx1.html > > It seems to be your best bet this side of an > Eventide. > > John > > --- Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > > > So here's my deal. I'm looking for the "perfect" > > processor to put in > > the stereo effects loop of my Repeater. Since I > > know "perfect" doesn't > > exist, I'll settle for less. I'm thinking of the > > Lexicon MPX500. > > Anyone with experience with that baby? > > > > Here's some of what I'd like to see: > > > > Stereo ins and outs a must. > > > > Line level operation a must. (getting the levels > > right for the Vortex > > was a bitch) > > > > MIDI synchable effects. I really liked the Lexicon > > Vortex for synched > > effects, but having to deal with that tap tempo all > > the time drove me > > nuts. Need to keep my hands on my guitar! > > > > Some good meat and potato effects and some wacky > > stuff. Ping Ponging > > delays of maddness. Nice sweep filters. > > > > A SINGLE rack space. (it's all I have left and I > > will not go back to > > two racks!) > > > > Good sound quality. Hell, it's replacing a Digitech > > DSP128, so if it's > > as good or better than that I'm set. I guess my > > priorities lie with > > loop *manglege* > > > > So that's it. I've had thoughts about waiting for > > the KAOSS pad II > > (anyone have an inkling as to when this is going to > > be released?), but > > would like to keep it in the rack as much as I can. > > > > ===== > John Tidwell > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 14:04:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13654; Mon, 20 May 2002 14:03:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:03:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:58:58 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?SGVyYmVydCBGYd9iZW5kZXI=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53o) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?SGVyYmVydCBGYd9iZW5kZXI=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1735777309.20020520195858@gmx.de> To: "Skylabpr@aol.com" Subject: Re[2]: Lexicon Vortex Wanted In-Reply-To: <110.127399a5.2a1a64cf@aol.com> References: <110.127399a5.2a1a64cf@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Pietro, at Monday, 20. May 2002, 16:40 you wrote: Sac> Yes i do have a vortex that i just took out off my rack, i wasn't planning to Sac> sell it but, Sac> if you make me an offer i cant refuse i will change my mind. I assume an offer of USD 75,-- won't change your mind... Herbie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 14:33:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15454; Mon, 20 May 2002 14:32:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:32:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Andy Ewen" To: Subject: RE: fruity loops sampling question... Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:34:43 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C20035.64004080" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <40.1df3aa72.2a19d354@aol.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C20035.64004080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Greg, sorry you're having problems contacting Shane @ Gibson service. shane.radtke@gibson.com What's the problem with your EDP? maybe I can help, Andy -----Original Message----- From: Looping9string@aol.com [mailto:Looping9string@aol.com] Sent: 20 May 2002 05:20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: fruity loops sampling question... Fruity loops, How do I record my bass and create a wave file to import into fruity loops? Random comment: GIBSON's EDP tech support is impossible to reach... I'm about to fix this EDP with a big ol hammer! ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C20035.64004080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Greg,
sorry=20 you're having problems contacting Shane @ Gibson service. shane.radtke@gibson.com=20
What's=20 the problem with your EDP? maybe I can help,
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: = Looping9string@aol.com=20 [mailto:Looping9string@aol.com]
Sent: 20 May 2002=20 05:20
To: = loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 fruity loops sampling question...

Fruity loops,

How do = I record my=20 bass and create a wave file to import into fruity loops?





Random comment:
GIBSON's EDP tech support is = impossible=20 to reach... I'm about to fix this EDP with a big ol hammer!=20
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C20035.64004080-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 15:08:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19157; Mon, 20 May 2002 15:07:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:07:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE94877.3FAB3096@ernieball.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:03:19 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Loop4 MIDI Reset? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers Delight From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Apparently the problem had to do with my Record command in the PMC, because when I use the SUSRecord DirectMIDI command instead of the regular Record MIDI command, everything works perfectly. But now I have to wonder, what was I doing wrong with the Record command? I have it programmed as a Note On/Channel 1/Note 38/Velocity 127. It works fine as a Record command, but for some reason it screws up Reset. Any ideas? Also, I have the PMC-10 manual v1.0 but a v2.0 PMC-10. What does the "Enhanced" switching mode do? Thanks, -Hans P.S. I have Raymond now - but the MIDI interface I got had no drivers for Windows XP :( I'm getting fast with the PMC programmer, though. > Hans > > 1st, if you have a pc get yourself Raymond the pmc10 editor for windows > at our LD member Sean's site > http://www.mindspring.com/~sean_/pmc/index.html > it will be much more simpler from there in the same download is a > Midi/hex calculator wich will help you master the hex/midi stuff > > for those resets, a note on, on a momentary switch is enough if you want > to put the note off it is ok too > 90 3d 7f : midi chan 1, midi note 61, note on (velocity 127) > > claude > > Hans Lindauer wrote: > > > > I wrote: > > > > > > I spent a few hours over the weekend trying to figure out how to > > > program > > > > my PMC-10 as a controller for my newly-upgraded EDP. I managed to > > > get > > > > record and overdub happening, but I tried to program a reset and > > > didn't > > > > have any luck. Has anyone gotten this working yet? > > > > Claude Responded: > > > > > This indeed works enter 9x 3d 7f (x is you midi channel in hex) > > > use a momentary pedal type on the pmc > > > > > > reset only resets the current loop see it as a long record press > > > if you have multiple loops try general reset to reset all the loops > > > (9x 3e 7f) > > > or if you tweaked params you could also use pg ch 16 wich means reload > > > (the stored preset replaces the edited preset) > > > > Now I see the difference between Reset and General Reset (another > > question I had). I'm using the umbilical programmer to program the > > PMC-10 so I'm not familiar with those hex strings, but I'm guessing that > > the first hex value indicates the MIDI channel, the second is the note > > value, and the third is the velocity? I left the velocity at 64 when I > > tried it - would that make a difference? Also, should this be > > programmed as a note on/note off combination, or just as a note on? > > > > Thanks Claude! > > > > -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 15:57:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21979; Mon, 20 May 2002 15:56:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:56:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC14@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" Subject: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! 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Jeff Gauthier - violin
Steuart Liebig - bass, loopage
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Scot Ray - trombone/compositions


An evening of extreme-jazz, avant-funk,
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9:30pm!!!!



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20038.5EEB9060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 16:02:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23705; Mon, 20 May 2002 16:01:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:01:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c20039$03949440$0801a8c0@vz.dsl.genuity.net> From: "Clifford Novey" To: References: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC14@mitorexch01.maritz.com> Subject: Re: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:00:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1FFFE.5593A500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1FFFE.5593A500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!!Damn man- can you give = more notice next time? I'd love to see this lineup again- but plans = tomorrow will prevent-=20 Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: Looper's Delight (E-mail)=20 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! Scot Ray Quintet @ Rocco's (6320 Santa Monica Blvd.)=20 Tuesday May 21st, 9:30pm!!!!! 9:30 pm!!!!!=20 Nels Cline - guitar, loopage=20 Jeff Gauthier - violin=20 Steuart Liebig - bass, loopage=20 Alex Cline - drums/percussion=20 Scot Ray - trombone/compositions=20 An evening of extreme-jazz, avant-funk,=20 liquid-americana, and skronk-blues experimentation.=20 Rocco's / 6320 Santa Monica Blvd.=20 http://www.roccoinla.com/entert.html=20 9:30pm!!!!=20 Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended = only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader = of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent = responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any = dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly = prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, = disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur = while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you = have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by = return e-mail. Thank you. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1FFFE.5593A500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig = spam!!
Damn man- can you give more notice next time? I'd = love to see=20 this lineup again- but plans tomorrow will prevent-
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: Looper's Delight=20 (E-mail)
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 = 12:56 PM
Subject: Scot Ray Quintet@ = Rocco's/l.a.,=20 ca, usa gig spam!!



Scot Ray Quintet @ Rocco's (6320 Santa Monica = Blvd.)=20
Tuesday May 21st,  9:30pm!!!!!  9:30 = pm!!!!!=20


Nels Cline - guitar, loopage
Jeff=20 Gauthier - violin
Steuart Liebig - bass,=20 loopage
Alex Cline - drums/percussion =
Scot Ray - trombone/compositions


An evening of extreme-jazz, avant-funk, =
liquid-americana, and skronk-blues experimentation. =


Rocco's / 6320 Santa Monica Blvd.
http://www.roccoinla.com/entert.html =
9:30pm!!!!



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 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1FFFE.5593A500-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 16:06:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24168; Mon, 20 May 2002 16:05:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:05:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC1B@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:04:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C20039.92C4EBB0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20039.92C4EBB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" yeah, i screwed up - - crazy busy - - sorry!! stig -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Novey [mailto:om@Om-Studios.com] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:01 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! Damn man- can you give more notice next time? I'd love to see this lineup again- but plans tomorrow will prevent- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. To: Looper's Delight (E-mail) Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! Scot Ray Quintet @ Rocco's (6320 Santa Monica Blvd.) Tuesday May 21st, 9:30pm!!!!! 9:30 pm!!!!! Nels Cline - guitar, loopage Jeff Gauthier - violin Steuart Liebig - bass, loopage Alex Cline - drums/percussion Scot Ray - trombone/compositions An evening of extreme-jazz, avant-funk, liquid-americana, and skronk-blues experimentation. Rocco's / 6320 Santa Monica Blvd. http://www.roccoinla.com/entert.html 9:30pm!!!! Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you. Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20039.92C4EBB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!!
yeah, i screwed up - - crazy busy - - sorry!!
 
stig
-----Original Message-----
From: Clifford Novey [mailto:om@Om-Studios.com]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!!

Damn man- can you give more notice next time? I'd love to see this lineup again- but plans tomorrow will prevent-
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:56 PM
Subject: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!!



Scot Ray Quintet @ Rocco's (6320 Santa Monica Blvd.)
Tuesday May 21st,  9:30pm!!!!!  9:30 pm!!!!!


Nels Cline - guitar, loopage
Jeff Gauthier - violin
Steuart Liebig - bass, loopage
Alex Cline - drums/percussion
Scot Ray - trombone/compositions


An evening of extreme-jazz, avant-funk,
liquid-americana, and skronk-blues experimentation.


Rocco's / 6320 Santa Monica Blvd.
http://www.roccoinla.com/entert.html
9:30pm!!!!



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20039.92C4EBB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 16:07:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24247; Mon, 20 May 2002 16:06:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:06:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE94822.810FBC4A@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:01:54 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! References: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC14@mitorexch01.maritz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > "Liebig, Steuart A." wrote: > > Scot Ray Quintet @ Rocco's (6320 Santa Monica Blvd.) > Tuesday May 21st, 9:30pm!!!!! 9:30 pm!!!!! > > Nels Cline - guitar, loopage > Jeff Gauthier - violin > Steuart Liebig - bass, loopage > Alex Cline - drums/percussion > Scot Ray - trombone/compositions > > An evening of extreme-jazz, avant-funk, > liquid-americana, and skronk-blues experimentation. > My god, M feeling lost in casual Switzerland we'll surely have to wait 10 years before this appears here till then Good luck :-] Claude > > Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended > only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the > reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or > agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any > dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly > prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any > loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may > occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. > If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify > us by return e-mail. Thank you. youre welcome From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 16:10:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25120; Mon, 20 May 2002 16:09:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:09:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC1E@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:09:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2003A.3D6A6040" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2003A.3D6A6040 Content-Type: text/plain My god, M feeling lost in casual Switzerland we'll surely have to wait 10 years before this appears here ** unless we get to willisau fest or something ;-) (i can dream can't i?) we'll be recording this band on friday/saturday and it should be coming out in september or so . . . stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2003A.3D6A6040 Content-Type: text/html RE: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!!

My god, M feeling lost in casual Switzerland

we'll surely have to wait 10 years before this appears here

** unless we get to willisau fest or something ;-) (i can dream can't i?)

we'll be recording this band on friday/saturday and it should be coming out in september or so . . .

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2003A.3D6A6040-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 16:23:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25869; Mon, 20 May 2002 16:17:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:17:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CE94AF8.D3FCA210@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:14:00 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! References: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC1E@mitorexch01.maritz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > "Liebig, Steuart A." wrote: > > My god, M feeling lost in casual Switzerland > > we'll surely have to wait 10 years before this appears here > > ** unless we get to willisau fest or something ;-) (i can dream can't > i?) oh yeah I went (as public) there for 4-5 times like 20 years ago great shredding happened there wow we called that "la tuée de cochons" "the pig killing" wild Claude > we'll be recording this band on friday/saturday and it should be > coming out in september or so . . . > > stig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 16:28:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26648; Mon, 20 May 2002 16:27:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:27:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC1F@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!! Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:27:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2003C.BC4B1470" Resent-Message-ID: <3CkXT.A.DgG.XwV68@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2003C.BC4B1470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" oh yeah I went (as public) there for 4-5 times like 20 years ago ** played there in 84 or so. very nice. stig Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2003C.BC4B1470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Scot Ray Quintet@ Rocco's/l.a., ca, usa gig spam!!

oh yeah I went (as public) there for 4-5 times like 20 years ago

** played there in 84 or so. very nice.

stig



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2003C.BC4B1470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 18:07:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01292; Mon, 20 May 2002 18:06:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:06:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000801c200d9$5f411840$3b8f1cd3@oemcomputer> From: "street" To: Subject: EPD footpedal dimensions please Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 08:08:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2009E.B1BBC1A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2009E.B1BBC1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll have my new EPD in hand in a few weeks, i'm sorting pedal board things. Can i have the lenth of the EFC-7 footpedal please? thanks! ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2009E.B1BBC1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'll have my new EPD in hand in a few = weeks, i'm=20 sorting
pedal board things.
 
Can i have the lenth of the EFC-7 = footpedal=20 please?
thanks!
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2009E.B1BBC1A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 19:05:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05085; Mon, 20 May 2002 19:03:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:03:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "M. Steven Ginn" To: Subject: Effects units Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:03:25 -0500 Message-ID: <00ba01c20052$8bf03a10$420e88cf@stevespc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3CE94877.3FAB3096@ernieball.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have been thinking about getting an Eventide Eclipse which looks amazing, but I am wondering what anyones thoughts are about whether or not it is worth it for the price? I recently saw a TC Electronics M2000 for about $700 and was wondering if maybe that might be comparable to the Eclipse and save me some money in the mean time? Thanks, Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 19:59:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07152; Mon, 20 May 2002 19:57:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:57:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:57:27 -0400 Subject: Re: EPD footpedal dimensions please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-682174217 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Doug Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000801c200d9$5f411840$3b8f1cd3@oemcomputer> Message-Id: <566259D4-6C4D-11D6-BC81-00306587FF4E@columbus.rr.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: <_GdIrC.A.nvB.o1Y68@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --Apple-Mail-1-682174217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The Oberhiem EFC-7 is 17 5/16 inches. I'm not sure if the Gibson is the same. > Can i have the lenth of the EFC-7 footpedal please? .................................................................. Doug Miller http://www.dispatch.com http://www.columbusnow.com http://www.cccn.org http://home.columbus.rr.com/dougmiller --Apple-Mail-1-682174217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII The Oberhiem EFC-7 is 17 5/16 inches. I'm not sure if the Gibson is the same. ArialCan i have the lenth of the EFC-7 footpedal please? Arial.................................................................. Arial BlackDoug MillerArial < http://www.dispatch.com http://www.columbusnow.com http://www.cccn.org http://home.columbus.rr.com/dougmiller --Apple-Mail-1-682174217-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 22:13:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA16441; Mon, 20 May 2002 22:13:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:13:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JIMFOWLER@prodigy.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:12:29 -0500 Subject: Re: Effects units Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com as an eventide owner (DSP7000), i can only say that after i spent the $$$ to get mine, i felt pretty bad...until it arrived and i plugged that baby in. then, i actually felt like i hadn't spent enough! right behind my edp, it's the most indespensible part of my rig. and i've only begun to scratch the surface, having owned it for a few months only. i do know that the eclipse isn't as "open-ended" as the other eventide units, be they more or less expensive. for example, you can edit to the same degree on the eclipse as you can on, say, my unit for example. however, much of the factory presets can be edited...you just can't build you own in vsig (to the best of my knowledge). if you'd like more details, drop by the eventide yahoo group and ask as many questions as you want. everybody there is helpful and usually very willing to offer advice, especially if you're considering "joining the converted" so to speak. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 22:46:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17790; Mon, 20 May 2002 22:46:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:46:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020521024540.43335.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Subject: CFC card To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thought y'all'd be interested... For the Electrix Repeater, Simple Tech 128 MB CFC card is $99.99 at Amazon, $94.99 at Costco.com (though you have to be a member or they stick it to you for 5%). I sprung for the 256MB card ($250.00 at Costco). Jason at Electrix told me that the Repeater has a greater chance of working smoother with the higher sized cards. I'll let the list here know how I like it once it arrives. There was a bad batch of Simple Tech cards a while back. If you have batch number 90000-40414-000, you might want to send it back if you haven't already. Cheers, SVG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 22:49:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18078; Mon, 20 May 2002 22:48:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:48:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000501c20071$a8e0bb80$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> From: "Butch" To: References: <20020521024540.43335.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: CFC card Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:46:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Best Buy had them for a little over $50.00 not too long ago. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "S V G" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:45 PM Subject: CFC card > > Thought y'all'd be interested... > > For the Electrix Repeater, Simple Tech 128 MB CFC card is $99.99 at Amazon, $94.99 at > Costco.com (though you have to be a member or they stick it to you for 5%). > > I sprung for the 256MB card ($250.00 at Costco). Jason at Electrix told me that the Repeater > has a greater chance of working smoother with the higher sized cards. > > I'll let the list here know how I like it once it arrives. > > There was a bad batch of Simple Tech cards a while back. If you have batch number > 90000-40414-000, you might want to send it back if you haven't already. > > Cheers, > > SVG > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 23:01:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19938; Mon, 20 May 2002 23:00:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:00:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Paul Weissman" To: Subject: Kaoss Pad and others... ? Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:02:00 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000501c20071$a8e0bb80$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, do any of you use the Korg Kaoss pad for your live performances? Just wondering a) if you like it and b) if there are any other interesting alternatives? Thanks, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 23:14:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA20590; Mon, 20 May 2002 23:13:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:13:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c20075$98da1d40$1602a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: References: Subject: Re: Kaoss Pad and others... ? Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:14:19 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <7nZdC.A.ZBF.dsb68@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Hey, do any of you use the Korg Kaoss pad for your live performances? > > Just wondering a) if you like it and b) if there are any other interesting > alternatives? > > Thanks, > Paul I use both a Kaoss Pad and an Alesis Air FX I'd give up the Alesis before the Kaoss - which I've grown quite addicted to for twisting up my synth sounds spontaniously. There's a version 2 Kaoss Pad coming out eventually. Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 20 23:45:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA21870; Mon, 20 May 2002 23:44:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:44:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "M. Steven Ginn" To: Subject: RE: Effects units Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:44:04 -0500 Message-ID: <00cc01c20079$c0b4ea80$420e88cf@stevespc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Jim, Thanks for the info. I read about the Eclipse in Sound on Sound and for the most part have decided to sell my MPX1 which will be replaced most likely by the Eclipse. I wish I could consider one of the other Eventide units but they are more expensive and take 2 spaces instead of one, and with the rest of the gear I have, space is a premium. Thanks, Steve > > as an eventide owner (DSP7000), i can only say that > after i spent the $$$ to get mine, i felt pretty > bad...until it arrived and i plugged that baby in. > then, i actually felt like i hadn't spent enough! > > right behind my edp, it's the most indespensible part > of my rig. and i've only begun to scratch the > surface, having owned it for a few months only. > > i do know that the eclipse isn't as "open-ended" as > the other eventide units, be they more or less > expensive. for example, you can edit to the same > degree on the eclipse as you can on, say, my unit for > example. however, much of the factory presets can be > edited...you just can't build you own in vsig (to the > best of my knowledge). > > if you'd like more details, drop by the eventide yahoo > group and ask as many questions as you want. > everybody there is helpful and usually very willing to > offer advice, especially if you're > considering "joining the converted" so to speak. > > -jim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 01:03:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30394; Tue, 21 May 2002 01:01:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 01:01:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 00:57:57 -0400 From: skincage Subject: Re: Kaoss Pad and others... ? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <007201c20084$13457f80$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: <7o8TGB.A.yXH.oSd68@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com me! i've had one a few years and i love it. it could use a few changes but for the most part it's really fun. i'm not sure what else is out there that has a similar control system, maybe alesis airfx? i've never played with one of those though. it is a very flexible and creative effects processor. i'd say you could easily consider it an instrument of sorts! as far as kaoss in a looping context, what i like to do lately is this: repeater loop going mo-fx in repeater fx loop kaoss in mo-fx insert loop with the fx loop engaged i can use the kaoss's sampling presets to catch bits from the current loop and then create loops of different lengths, direction etc by using the hold button and changing parameters with finger motion. the kaoss pad's output overrides the repeater's in this mode, so i can go back and forth between the original loop and the kaoss loop just by pressing the fx loop engage button on repeater. it's a little clumsy but a lot of fun. this plus the resampling on the repeater can lead to serious mutation. this is just one way to use it of course. another way would be to feed the kp from aux sends of a mixer and return the output to a stereo pair of channels on the same mixer (with the auxes muted). then you could have things play as normal but then bring in the effects when you wanted them more gradually than the pad's fx on/off switch. some experimenting could lead to interesting feedback loops. finally another fun thing is just to feed it stereo with fx on but hold off, then you only get audio when you press the pad. this can be fun too. see if you can find one to play with before you decide, but i think you'll be happy with it. as scott mentioned there's going to be a version 2 kaoss pad and it seems to have addressed most of the problems (minor) that i have with the first one. namely, being able to sample AND effect instead at the same time instead of one or the other. looks like you can save finger motions on the new one too, which would be slick. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Weissman To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: Kaoss Pad and others... ? > > Hey, do any of you use the Korg Kaoss pad for your live performances? > > Just wondering a) if you like it and b) if there are any other interesting > alternatives? > > Thanks, > Paul > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 01:23:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA32218; Tue, 21 May 2002 01:22:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 01:22:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:22:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Kaoss Pad and others... ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <007201c20084$13457f80$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I do really like the KAOSS pad, but have given it to my wife. My one main issue is that it's not set up to deal with a true line level signal, and the output of my Repeater distorts it's input, unless I turn the imput gain down. Then the problem is a significant reduction in gain even when I'm passing dry signal through it. It kind of makes it unusable to me. I hope they change that in the next iteration. It's also going to have synchable effects. Either to it's own beat detection, or to a MIDI clock. Yum. Mark On Monday, May 20, 2002, at 09:57 PM, skincage wrote: > me! > > i've had one a few years and i love it. it could use a few changes but > for the most part it's > really fun. i'm not sure what else is out there that has a similar > control system, maybe > alesis airfx? i've never played with one of those though. it is a very > flexible and creative > effects processor. i'd say you could easily consider it an instrument > of sorts! > > as far as kaoss in a looping context, what i like to do lately is this: > > repeater loop going > mo-fx in repeater fx loop > kaoss in mo-fx insert loop > > with the fx loop engaged i can use the kaoss's sampling presets to > catch bits from the > current loop and then create loops of different lengths, direction etc > by using the hold > button and changing parameters with finger motion. the kaoss pad's > output overrides the > repeater's in this mode, so i can go back and forth between the > original loop and the kaoss > loop just by pressing the fx loop engage button on repeater. it's a > little clumsy but a lot > of fun. this plus the resampling on the repeater can lead to serious > mutation. > > this is just one way to use it of course. another way would be to feed > the kp from aux sends > of a mixer and return the output to a stereo pair of channels on the > same mixer (with the > auxes muted). then you could have things play as normal but then bring > in the effects when > you wanted them more gradually than the pad's fx on/off switch. some > experimenting could lead > to interesting feedback loops. > > finally another fun thing is just to feed it stereo with fx on but > hold off, then you only > get audio when you press the pad. this can be fun too. see if you can > find one to play with > before you decide, but i think you'll be happy with it. > > as scott mentioned there's going to be a version 2 kaoss pad and it > seems to have addressed > most of the problems (minor) that i have with the first one. namely, > being able to sample AND > effect instead at the same time instead of one or the other. looks like > you can save finger > motions on the new one too, which would be slick. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Weissman > To: > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:02 PM > Subject: Kaoss Pad and others... ? > > >> >> Hey, do any of you use the Korg Kaoss pad for your live performances? >> >> Just wondering a) if you like it and b) if there are any other >> interesting >> alternatives? >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 01:46:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA01328; Tue, 21 May 2002 01:46:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 01:46:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020521054541.23435.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:45:41 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Subject: CFC card To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200205210523.BAA32300@hemlock.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Doh! I forgot to take my socks off when I wrote that last post... just multiply all the MB by 2 and you'll get the message I intended. It should read: For the Electrix Repeater, Simple Tech 256MB CFC card is $99.99 at Amazon, $94.99 at Costco.com (though you have to be a member or they stick it to you for 5%). It's around $125 to $130 at most other places. I sprung for the 512MB card ($250.00 at Costco). Jason at Electrix told me that the Repeater has a greater chance of working smoother with the higher sized cards. ------- Thanks for catching that one... ------------- >>Best Buy had them for a little over $50.00 not too long ago. >>Paul >>>>>>>>>>> > Thought y'all'd be interested... > > For the Electrix Repeater, Simple Tech 128 MB CFC card is $99.99 at Amazon, $94.99 at > Costco.com (though you have to be a member or they stick it to you for 5%). > > I sprung for the 256MB card ($250.00 at Costco). Jason at Electrix told me that the Repeater > has a greater chance of working smoother with the higher sized cards. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 03:12:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA08501; Tue, 21 May 2002 03:11:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 03:11:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:10:24 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Effects_units?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Italo_De_Angelis?=" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-XaM3-API-Version: 3.0.1build13 R13 X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 151.24.3.231 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id DAA08320 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Steve Eclipse is the only 1 space rack unit on the market today working 24bit/96KHz. It has a full array of analog/digital spdif-aesebu-optical- adat inputs/outputs. The unit has a collection of about 90 algorithms, with more to come on next OS releases and CF card libraries. Eclipse is a dual engine unit that can run 2 algorithms at the same time. It's about 5/6 times more powerful than the legendary industry standard H3000. It features 40 seconds delay, hi-quality verbs, granular plexverbs, reverse delays, up to 8 voice Eventide pitch shifting, crazy preamps, multiband distortion, polyfuzzes, ring modulators, multi voice chorus/flanger/delays/shifters, multiband delays, phaser, parametric eqs, comb delays, resonators, oscillators, reverse shifters, looping and much more... you can run the 2 engines in different routings. The unit has a ModBlock that can be used to patch parameters to modulators, being midi controllers, tap tempo, Lfo, input dynamics, adsr, envelope follower, etc. You cannot edit Eclipse algorithms to level structure or build your own: this is something you can only do on DSP7000/7500/Orville monsters. Nevertheless 90 algorithms that can be combined in pairs with full editable parameters, make Eclipse the most open box in the "close structure" boxes market. We just released a new operative system, with new features and more presets. User patches can be saved internally or on a CFC card. Patches can be sent/received over the Internet. OS updates are downloadable from the Net...for free. Get a chance to give Eclipse a careful listening...you'll be surprised. Here are its manuals and info literature: http://www.eventide.com/eclipse/eclipse.htm We have a support area/forum with many users, Eventide Helps, at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps/ lots of info, tutorials, patches, mp3s! Join it... all the best Italo De Angelis > I have been thinking about getting an Eventide Eclipse which looks > amazing, but I am wondering what anyones thoughts are about whether or > not it is worth it for the price? > > I recently saw a TC Electronics M2000 for about $700 and was wondering > if maybe that might be comparable to the Eclipse and save me some mone y > in the mean time? > > Thanks, > Steve > > ___________________________________________ Italo De Angelis Preset Design Engineer - Audio Division italo@eventide.com EVENTIDE AUDIO CUSTOMERS SUPPORT http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 04:26:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12906; Tue, 21 May 2002 04:22:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 04:22:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005801c2006d$a1cc6f00$04f8c440@g0wn7> From: "JAMES R FOWLER, III" To: References: Subject: Re: Effects units Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 03:17:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ummm...yeah...what italo said...that's what i meant to say. regarding price: recently i've seen a few 7K's on ebay going for under 2500 and i think the eclipse is 2000 from musicians friend (although you can inevitably find it cheaper somewhere else). which ever unit you pick, i'm sure you won't regret it. you will not need another "effects box". period. the only other sound mangler i have is the sherman and even that could be replaced by some of the filters in the 7K. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 06:19:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA18945; Tue, 21 May 2002 06:18:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 06:18:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: 21 May 2002 10:17:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20020521101712.15176.qmail@mail.supereva.it> X-Originating-IP: [213.82.87.114] From: luketherocker@supereva.it Reply-To: luketherocker@supereva.it To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: help Resent-Message-ID: <-jfAdD.A.rnE.I7h68@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Manuals, schematics, informations advises and so on about EVANS SUPERECHO TAPE ECHO needed. Please help Luca ----------------------------------------------------- Compra e vendi su eBay: registrati gratis! http://www.ebay.it/registrazione.html messaggio inviato con Freemail by www.superEva.it ----------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 09:45:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30661; Tue, 21 May 2002 09:43:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:43:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: expression pedal with all access Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:42:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sorry to exhume thread but I got a new piece of gear and i'm a bit confused. I got the CP-251, which is a control voltage mixer/controller. It references it's own expression pedal which has a single line out of the thing. Does anyone have experience with this and can they offer a suggestion on whether I need to buy this or can jerry-rig something else? My guess is that it's just a TRS line which could be duplicated through my Ernie Ball mono pedal using a TRS breakout cable. Anyone know if this is true? I am reluctant to experiment with the thing and short it out by accident. Log range is OK. Thanks in advance, Ben PS my application is controlling the Sherman which I monkey'd with last night and it is just wicked. But I'd like to get a VCO kit too... -----Original Message----- From: jim palmer [mailto:jimp@pobox.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:51 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not translate to the middle of the control range. in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default), the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64... in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper pot with a linear taper pot... > i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll > have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. > > -jim > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 09:48:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30789; Tue, 21 May 2002 09:44:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:44:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: schematics (RE: help) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:43:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You might try schematicheaven.com -----Original Message----- From: luketherocker@supereva.it [mailto:luketherocker@supereva.it] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:17 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: help Manuals, schematics, informations advises and so on about EVANS SUPERECHO TAPE ECHO needed. Please help Luca ----------------------------------------------------- Compra e vendi su eBay: registrati gratis! http://www.ebay.it/registrazione.html messaggio inviato con Freemail by www.superEva.it ----------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 10:56:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04028; Tue, 21 May 2002 10:55:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:55:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:54:47 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <029a01c200d7$7393a620$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: <_jYw8.A.j-.4-l68@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i don't have the 251, but i have several moogerfooger pedals and i'm sure it works the same way. moog made the control inputs so they could take either a trs expression pedal in or a mono cv input. it's a pretty clever idea, he feeds a 5v source to the ring, which is shorted to ground when a mono cable is inserted. it's current limited so nothing fries when this happens. the expression pedal acts as a voltage divider so you get a 0-5v signal at the tip. so you connect the ring to the high side of the pot (this will be the tip of the input on the eb pedal) the sleeve goes to the sleeve of either jack on the eb. the tip goes to the tip of the output of the eb pedal. you can use a standard insert cable or rewire the eb with a trs jack. this is not the way most trs expression pedal inputs are wired. for example the rocktron all-access has the tip and ring switched. but then, it can't take a mono cv input... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: RE: expression pedal with all access > sorry to exhume thread but I got a new piece of gear and i'm a bit confused. > > I got the CP-251, which is a control voltage mixer/controller. It references > it's own expression pedal which has a single line out of the thing. Does > anyone have experience with this and can they offer a suggestion on whether > I need to buy this or can jerry-rig something else? > > My guess is that it's just a TRS line which could be duplicated through my > Ernie Ball mono pedal using a TRS breakout cable. Anyone know if this is > true? I am reluctant to experiment with the thing and short it out by > accident. Log range is OK. > > Thanks in advance, > > Ben > > PS my application is controlling the Sherman which I monkey'd with last > night and it is just wicked. But I'd like to get a VCO kit too... > > -----Original Message----- > From: jim palmer [mailto:jimp@pobox.com] > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:51 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: expression pedal with all access > > > you can use the ernie ball as-is with a standard insert cable, but you > get a log curve - the middle position of the pedal does not > translate to the middle of the control range. > in other words: if you set your control range to 0-127 (default), > the middle pos of the pedal will not result in a cc of 64... > in order to get this behavior, you have to replace the audio taper > pot with a linear taper pot... > > > i think the ernie ball mono pedal will work fine....although i'm told i'll > > have to build a special cable for it...we'll see. > > > > -jim > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 11:10:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06113; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:09:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:09:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CEA666A.6164@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 08:23:22 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Effects units References: <005801c2006d$a1cc6f00$04f8c440@g0wn7> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com JAMES R FOWLER, III wrote: > you will not need > another "effects box". period. 'tis true,my Eclipse cured me me of gear lust regarding effects..Now I just lust after Italo's looping programs:) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 11:58:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08016; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:56:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:56:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 17:55:07 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Effects_units?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Italo_De_Angelis?=" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-XaM3-API-Version: 3.0.1build13 R13 X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 151.24.12.73 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA07963 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > 'tis true,my Eclipse cured me me of gear lust regarding effects..Now I > just lust after Italo's looping programs:) ...on their way, Scott! soon Italoop ___________________________________________ Italo De Angelis Preset Design Engineer - Audio Division italo@eventide.com EVENTIDE AUDIO CUSTOMERS SUPPORT http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 14:26:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19678; Tue, 21 May 2002 14:25:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:25:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Andy Ewen" To: Subject: RE: EPD footpedal dimensions please Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 19:28:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C200FD.9EC483C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <566259D4-6C4D-11D6-BC81-00306587FF4E@columbus.rr.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C200FD.9EC483C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Latest Gibson EFC-7 is 17 5/16 long, 4 inches wide, 1 7/8 inches height at the back and 7/8 inch high at the front. I don't think they've ever changed as we used original drawings to make them, Andy -----Original Message----- From: Doug Miller [mailto:dmiller3@columbus.rr.com] Sent: 21 May 2002 00:57 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EPD footpedal dimensions please The Oberhiem EFC-7 is 17 5/16 inches. I'm not sure if the Gibson is the same. Can i have the lenth of the EFC-7 footpedal please? .................................................................. Doug Miller http://www.dispatch.com http://www.columbusnow.com http://www.cccn.org http://home.columbus.rr.com/dougmiller ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C200FD.9EC483C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C200FD.9EC483C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 14:55:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21535; Tue, 21 May 2002 14:54:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:54:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CEA95FA.C396139C@HelpWantedProductions.com> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:46:18 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FS: Casio MG500 midi guitar... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Casio MG500 Midi guitar in good shape with tremolo bar and hardshell case - $400 I recently picked up a Casio PG380 so I no longer need my flagship midi guitar. I am selling a Casio Model MG500 in while with black pick guard and Rosewood neck. When I got it I had it set up by a local guitar tech who also installed a special wood jam in the tremolo bridge. This bridge limits the whammy bend so the unit stays in tune better and it's easily removable if you don't want it to make back to factory spec. The guitar itself was made by Ibanez (Hoshino for those in the know) in the 80s and it a 5 position three single coil strat type design with the third pickup also acting as a humbucker (with a dedicated switch). It is an *incredibly* nice and playable guitar in it's own right and is the BEST all-in-one midi guitar unit IMO thanks to Casio's unique design with includes all electronics in the guitar body itself. there is a single Midi out jack near the 1/4" out. There is no rack unit and no special pickup required. It spits velocity sensitive midi out right from the box including volume and program info. I'd give the guitar an 8 on a scale of 10 only because it is missing one screw and two rubber pads on the back. The dip switches all work 100% (one has the tip taken off but it's easily switchable with a screwdriver or pencil which you have to use anyway since they are so small). It is the weird spaceship MG500 design, much rarer than the standard Strat body MG510, and I have never seen another one in white (most are black). It has a nice weight and everything (including the midi out) works 100%. Collectable, playable, and just damn nice. I have one picture of the actual guitar here: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/mg500.jpg (I can take more pictures if you'd like, just ask) More info on the capabilities of this guitar can be found at: http://jpsongs.com/troubadortech/casmgtr.htm It comes with a hardshell case (not insignificant as it doesn't fit most case designs due to it's weird shape) and I'm sure I have a copy of the manual and dip switch settings which allow you to do stuff like set each string to send a different midi channel etc. I will be posting this at a different price to the 'net at large so if you're interested please be sure to mention you're a member of LD. Price is firm but I will consider trades as well. Buyer pays shipping and any other fees (I accept paypal or USPS MO) Pickup in Phila PA also welcome. Thanks! ____________________________________________________________________ HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 17:03:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32243; Tue, 21 May 2002 17:02:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 17:02:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: RE: Effects units Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 23:01:10 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c2010a$a3035300$0601a8c0@SATAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00ba01c20052$8bf03a10$420e88cf@stevespc> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Steve, I recently acquired a TC Electronics Fireworx I got used for ?1000, and although I only found the time to barely check through the presets, I'm convinced that this is THE device: The great thing about the Fireworx is the the great combination of "traditional" high quality effects (reverbs, pitch shifter, delay), flexible routing, parameter tweaking and realtime control and the addition of several extremely weird algorithms. If you absolutely need the best pitch shifter available - go for Eventide, for the best reverb in town, Lexicon might be the address, but for my use (I don't need reverbs that sound like a real room found anywhere on earth, anyway), the Fireworx does the trick as the "all-in-one single rackspace" machine several people have asked for on this list recently. A few highlights (mentioned partially with regard to ongoing threads here): the best distortion I found so far in a device that was not made exclusively for distortion, including digital sampling artifacts generator. A fine vocoder. A monophonic synth, which can be controlled by a pitch tracker, so you can have a synth that tracks your voice and sends the corresponding MIDI notes at the same time. The great "modifier matrix" concept. The filters are the bomb! Back to the discussion which had been ongoing here re: "How many loop manglers does one need ?": I could live with just the Fireworx as a loop mangler, plus a second Fireworx for the non-loop stuff, and then I'd be ready to extremely strip my rack down, getting rid of the Sony GR-MP5, the Digitech StudioQuad (a great device for its price BTW, the V2 version is going for below ?125 on ebay recently), the Vortex, the DL4 and the Filter Factory and just keep the Fireworxes plus a compressor... Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Steven Ginn [mailto:sginn@airmail.net] > Sent: Dienstag, 21. Mai 2002 01:03 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Effects units > > > I have been thinking about getting an Eventide Eclipse which looks > amazing, but I am wondering what anyones thoughts are about whether or > not it is worth it for the price? > > I recently saw a TC Electronics M2000 for about $700 and was wondering > if maybe that might be comparable to the Eclipse and save me > some money > in the mean time? > > Thanks, > Steve > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 18:08:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04738; Tue, 21 May 2002 18:07:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:07:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Paul Weissman" To: Subject: RE: Effects units Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:08:29 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <000001c2010a$a3035300$0601a8c0@SATAN> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It's funny... I just unracked my Fireworx due to lack of use. It's probably going to get sold. I know software may not be everyone's choice on this list, but since I got Reaktor, using the Fireworx has seemed like such a bother. I guess Reaktor's not so good if you don't want to bring a laptop out to a gig, but outside of that it's great. Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: Rainer Straschill [mailto:rs@moinlabs.de] > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:01 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Effects units > > > Steve, > > I recently acquired a TC Electronics Fireworx I got used for ?1000, and > although I only found the time to barely check through the presets, I'm > convinced that this is THE device: > > The great thing about the Fireworx is the the great combination of > "traditional" high quality effects (reverbs, pitch shifter, > delay), flexible > routing, parameter tweaking and realtime control and the addition > of several > extremely weird algorithms. If you absolutely need the best pitch shifter > available - go for Eventide, for the best reverb in town, Lexicon might be > the address, but for my use (I don't need reverbs that sound like a real > room found anywhere on earth, anyway), the Fireworx does the trick as the > "all-in-one single rackspace" machine several people have asked > for on this > list recently. > > A few highlights (mentioned partially with regard to ongoing > threads here): > the best distortion I found so far in a device that was not made > exclusively > for distortion, including digital sampling artifacts generator. A fine > vocoder. A monophonic synth, which can be controlled by a pitch > tracker, so > you can have a synth that tracks your voice and sends the > corresponding MIDI > notes at the same time. The great "modifier matrix" concept. The > filters are > the bomb! > > Back to the discussion which had been ongoing here re: "How many loop > manglers does one need ?": I could live with just the Fireworx as a loop > mangler, plus a second Fireworx for the non-loop stuff, and then I'd be > ready to extremely strip my rack down, getting rid of the Sony GR-MP5, the > Digitech StudioQuad (a great device for its price BTW, the V2 version is > going for below ?125 on ebay recently), the Vortex, the DL4 and the Filter > Factory and just keep the Fireworxes plus a compressor... > > Rainer > > Rainer Straschill > Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de > digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de > The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: M. Steven Ginn [mailto:sginn@airmail.net] > > Sent: Dienstag, 21. Mai 2002 01:03 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Effects units > > > > > > I have been thinking about getting an Eventide Eclipse which looks > > amazing, but I am wondering what anyones thoughts are about whether or > > not it is worth it for the price? > > > > I recently saw a TC Electronics M2000 for about $700 and was wondering > > if maybe that might be comparable to the Eclipse and save me > > some money > > in the mean time? > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 21 22:53:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21161; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:51:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:51:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:56:53 -0500 Subject: expression pedal for EP Pro From: Peter Einhorn To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000501c1fc9f$4221de40$5b2e2697@o4z6b8> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4QjqdD.A.xJF.Lew68@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Has anyone tried the Boss EV-5 exp pedal as a direct input feeback pedal into the EP Pro? The Line 6 ex 1? Thx peter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 00:01:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA26747; Wed, 22 May 2002 00:00:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 00:00:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CEB1796.1759CB44@iwvisp.com> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:59:18 -0700 From: dirt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: CARP(e) diem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.copyright.gov/carp/webcasting-rates-order.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 11:17:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02624; Wed, 22 May 2002 11:15:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 11:15:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQpc/F8fF+v2Bn1bpyfcqBdkRiZGgIVAJhUL9bSGZZZPDiDpvirTxIOKT9V From: BILLYBUDDHA@webtv.net (William Mcallister) Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 08:14:49 -0700 (PDT) To: LOOPERS-DELIGHT@loopers-delight.com Subject: Fwd: RE: [lvjambandsociety] O.T. 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Com" Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 From: "G.O.L." X-Yahoo-Profile: geolyons10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lvjambandsociety@yahoogroups.com; contact lvjambandsociety-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lvjambandsociety@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 12:46:33 -0700 Subject: RE: [lvjambandsociety] 'Copy-proof' CDs cracked with marker pen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C200C5.89EC0960" ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C200C5.89EC0960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nice one! "yo-ho yo-ho a pirate's life for me!!!!!!!" geo -----Original Message----- From: Mark Vavrick [mailto:M_Vavrick@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:15 PM To: lvjambandsociety@yahoogroups.com Subject: [lvjambandsociety] 'Copy-proof' CDs cracked with marker pen 'Copy-proof' CDs cracked with marker pen May 21, 2002 Posted: 2:03 PM EDT (1803 GMT) LONDON (Reuters) -- Technology buffs have cracked music publishing giant Sony Music's elaborate disc copy-protection technology with a decidedly low-tech method: scribbling around the rim of a disk with a felt-tip marker. Internet newsgroups have been circulating news of the discovery for the past week, and in typical newsgroup style, users have pilloried Sony for deploying "hi-tech" copy protection that can be defeated by paying a visit to a stationery store. "I wonder what type of copy protection will come next?" one posting on alt.music.prince read. "Maybe they'll ban markers." Sony did not immediately return calls seeking comment. Major music labels, including Sony and Universal Music, have begun selling the "copy-proof" discs as a means of tackling the rampant spread of music piracy, which they claim is eating into sales. The new technology aims to prevent consumers from copying, or "burning," music onto recordable CDs or onto their computer hard drives, which can then be shared with other users over file-sharing Internet services such as Kazaa or Morpheus MusicCity. Sony aggressive anti-piracy push Monday, Reuters obtained an ordinary copy of Celine Dion's newest release "A New Day Has Come," which comes embedded with Sony's "Key2Audio" technology. After an initial attempt to play the disc on a PC resulted in failure, the edge of the shiny side of the disc was blackened out with a felt tip marker. The second attempt with the marked-up CD played and copied to the hard drive without a hitch. Internet postings claim that tape or even a sticky note can also be used to cover the security track, typically located on the outer rim of the disc. And there are suggestions that copy protection schemes used by other music labels can also be circumvented in a similar way. Sony's proprietary technology, deployed on many recent releases, works by adding a track to the copy-protected disc that contains bogus data. Because computer hard drives are programmed to read data files first, the computer will continuously try to play the bogus track first. It never gets to play the music tracks located elsewhere on the compact disc. The effect is that the copy-protected disc will play on standard CD players but not on computer CD-Rom drives, some portable devices and even some car stereo systems. Some Apple Macintosh users have reported that playing the disc in the computer's CD drive causes the computer to crash. The cover of the copy-protected discs contain a warning that the album will not play on Macintoshes or other personal computers. Apple has since posted a warning on its website at: http://kbase.info.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/kbase.woa/wa/query?searchMode -Assisted&type-id&val-KC.106882. Sony Music Europe has taken the most aggressive anti-piracy stance in the business. Since last fall, the label has shipped more than 11 million copy-protected discs in Europe, with the largest proportion going to Germany, a market label executives claim is rife with illegal CD-burning. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lvjambandsociety-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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From: Mark Vavrick [mailto:M_Vavrick@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:15 PM
To: lvjambandsociety@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lvjambandsociety] 'Copy-proof' CDs cracked with marker pen

'Copy-proof' CDs cracked with marker pen

May 21, 2002 Posted: 2:03 PM EDT (1803 GMT)

'Copy-proof' CDs cracked with marker pen

LONDON (Reuters) -- Technology buffs have cracked music publishing giant Sony Music's elaborate disc copy-protection technology with a decidedly low-tech method: scribbling around the rim of a disk with a felt-tip marker.

Internet newsgroups have been circulating news of the discovery for the past week, and in typical newsgroup style, users have pilloried Sony for deploying "hi-tech" copy protection that can be defeated by paying a visit to a stationery store.

"I wonder what type of copy protection will come next?" one posting on alt.music.prince read. "Maybe they'll ban markers."

Sony did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

Major music labels, including Sony and Universal Music, have begun selling the "copy-proof" discs as a means of tackling the rampant spread of music piracy, which they claim is eating into sales.

The new technology aims to prevent consumers from copying, or "burning," music onto recordable CDs or onto their computer hard drives, which can then be shared with other users over file-sharing Internet services such as Kazaa or Morpheus MusicCity.

Sony aggressive anti-piracy push

Monday, Reuters obtained an ordinary copy of Celine Dion's newest release "A New Day Has Come," which comes embedded with Sony's "Key2Audio" technology.

After an initial attempt to play the disc on a PC resulted in failure, the edge of the shiny side of the disc was blackened out with a felt tip marker. The second attempt with the marked-up CD played and copied to the hard drive without a hitch.

Internet postings claim that tape or even a sticky note can also be used to cover the security track, typically located on the outer rim of the disc. And there are suggestions that copy protection schemes used by other music labels can also be circumvented in a similar way.

Sony's proprietary technology, deployed on many recent releases, works by adding a track to the copy-protected disc that contains bogus data.

Because computer hard drives are programmed to read data files first, the computer will continuously try to play the bogus track first. It never gets to play the music tracks located elsewhere on the compact disc.

The effect is that the copy-protected disc will play on standard CD players but not on computer CD-Rom drives, some portable devices and even some car stereo systems.

Some Apple Macintosh users have reported that playing the disc in the computer's CD drive causes the computer to crash. The cover of the copy-protected discs contain a warning that the album will not play on Macintoshes or other personal computers.

Apple has since posted a warning on its website at: http://kbase.info.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/kbase.woa/wa/query?searchMode-Assisted&type-id&val-KC.106882.

Sony Music Europe has taken the most aggressive anti-piracy stance in the business. Since last fall, the label has shipped more than 11 million copy-protected discs in Europe, with the largest proportion going to Germany, a market label executives claim is rife with illegal CD-burning.


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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C200C5.89EC0960-- --WebTV-Mail-18638-149-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 11:20:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03053; Wed, 22 May 2002 11:19:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 11:19:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00e401c201a2$f1f83320$d1635cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" , "spacemusic" , "ElectronicMusic" , "beyond_em" , "AIMusic" , "The Ambient Way" Subject: Soundscapes #2 - Advance Ticket Information Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 11:10:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Ministry of Inside Things will perform their special brand of spacemusic at the second installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series. The concert will take place at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island, Saturday, June 22, at 8:00 pm. Doors open at 7:30 pm for a free dinner buffet provided by Chef Jeff. Those who attended Soundscapes #1 will recall a memorable evening of great music and food. Soundscapes #2 promises to be just as enjoyable, as well as being the only source of live spacemusic in the Lehigh Valley (southeastern Pennsylvania). Admission at the door will be $15. Full time Students with valid ID and members of WDIY and WMUH will receive a $5 discount. Advance tickets will be $10 (no discounts), and are available at these fine outlets: Compact Disc Center 1365 Easton Ave. near Linden and Elizabeth in Bethlehem, Pa 610-864-3070 Speedy's Record Shop 1001 Union Blvd east of Airport Rd. in Allentown, Pa 610-432-8386 The Ministry Of Inside Things, based in the Philadelphia area, consists of electric guitarist Art Cohen and synthesist Chuck van Zyl. Considered among the most innovative of electronic musicians in the U.S. today, the members of MoIT are influenced by the early music of Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze and Ash Ra Tempel. Their spacemusic has been described as linear because it leads the listener across many sonic terrains. Based on improvisation, The Ministry Of Inside Things creates electronic realizations that flow from theme to theme, often for two hours at a stretch. Through the use of textures and atmospheres as well as harmony, rhythm and melody, the group transports the audience on an internal sonic excursion. Chuck van Zyl has been recording electronic music and performing in public for over 15 years. Van Zyl originally worked under the name Xisle, but is best known for hosting one of the country's most successful radio shows of electronic music, STAR'S END, for over 20 years. Van Zyl has released two CDs of spacemusic on the Centaur label, Celestial Mechanics and The Relic. The Sound Museum with Peter Gulch and D. Andrew Rath was released on the Groove label in 2001. A collaborative effort with Peter Gulch, Regeneration Mode, was released on their own Synkronos label. Art Cohen has been pushing the limits of the electric guitar in the studio and in live performance for well over 15 years. He uses processing to enhance the space around his guitar and loops his live sound to create lush layers to create soundworlds of immense depth and beauty. The Ministry Of Inside Things has performed at Art & Technology, The Philadelphia Museum of Art, First Night Wilmington, the Wild Talents opening reception at the ICA, Gate To Moon Base Alpha, the Boyertown Planetarium, Gathering Concert Series, on the 01.28.01 broadcast of STAR'S END, and on the 07.12.01 broadcast of EMUSIC. Soundscapes #2 is coproduced by WDS Productions and Wooden Shoe Music. Bill billfox@fast.net SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://www.tadream.net/soundscapes Wooden Shoe Music: http://woodenshoemusic.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 13:21:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13429; Wed, 22 May 2002 13:20:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:20:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <126.110ea926.2a1d2d21@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:19:29 EDT Subject: gig spam pittsburgh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com friday 6-9 @ gems of the world, carson st. south side pittsburgh, 412-432-0300.....more loops than you can stand.....loop content at least 91%.....you wont be sayin "where's da loops?".....there will also be an "art" show and "ort" (little bits of food) show i.e. "free eats".....this is enuf warning, you can get here from anywhere on the planet in time for M KLOBUCHAR'S LOOP CIRQUS' COME AND WONDER TOUR CONTINUATION.....see ya there.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 13:57:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16017; Wed, 22 May 2002 13:56:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:56:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CEBDBE4.67E8B2C3@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 11:03:11 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: gig spam pittsburgh References: <126.110ea926.2a1d2d21@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > friday 6-9 @ gems of the world, carson st. south side pittsburgh, > 412-432-0300.....more loops than you can stand.....loop content at leastm > 91%.....you wont be sayin "where's da loops?".....there will also be an "art" > show and "ort" (little bits of food) show i.e. "free eats".....this is enuf > warning, you can get here from anywhere on the planet in time for M > KLOBUCHAR'S LOOP CIRQUS' COME AND WONDER TOUR CONTINUATION.....see ya > there.....michael man, this sounds cool. like the title. will there be freaks? best w/ it lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 14:01:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17544; Wed, 22 May 2002 14:00:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 14:00:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020522175937.92159.qmail@web21310.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 10:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Lex MPX-1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3CE9399C.E13FEBA8@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Yeah, that does look perfect... I'm not sure I can swing the $700 US > for one right now though. Maybe if I save up... How well does this thing do all this stuff in practice? So far, I have yet to use an "all in one" box that was really satisfying. Sure would be nice to find one, from a standpoint of saving one's back, but it seems pretty unlikely. Any of you using the MPX-1? What are your comments on it? Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 15:27:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22951; Wed, 22 May 2002 15:26:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 15:26:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020522122136.03711060@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 12:25:12 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Heasley Subject: Re: Lex MPX-1 In-Reply-To: <20020522175937.92159.qmail@web21310.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3CE9399C.E13FEBA8@zerocrossing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_4345445==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_4345445==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:59 AM 5/22/02, you wrote: >Any of you using the MPX-1? What are your comments on it? I use it mostly for pitch programs in tandem with a D-TWO and a DL4. I like it. Tom Heasley NEW CD AVAILABLE: On the Sensations of Tone, (www.innova.mu) ALSO AVAILABLE: Where the Earth Meets the Sky, (www.hypnos.com) http://bayimproviser.com/TomHeasley 427 Alma St., Suite 206 Palo Alto, CA 94301 P: 650.322.3633 F: 419.831.3809 E: tom@tomheasley.com WEBSITE COMING SOON: TOMHEASLEY.COM Upcoming Solo Concerts / Appearances: Sunday, June 16, 2002 (Father's Day) 7:30 P.M. First Congregational Church of Berkeley 2345 Channing Way (at Dana) Tickets at door: $15.00 General / $10.00 Students, Seniors and Fathers Friday, June 21, 2002 The Now Festival Goat Hall, San Francisco Autumn 2002 Tour will include: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY (10/3) Kalvos and Damian's New Music Bazaar, VT (10/5) Roulette, NYC The BBC, London, England --=====================_4345445==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 10:59 AM 5/22/02, you wrote:
Any of you using the MPX-1? What are your comments on it?

I use it mostly for pitch programs in tandem with a D-TWO and a DL4.  I like it.

Tom Heasley
NEW CD AVAILABLE:  On the Sensations of Tone,  (www.innova.mu)
ALSO AVAILABLE:  Where the Earth Meets the Sky,  (www.hypnos.com)

http://bayimproviser.com/TomHeasley
427 Alma St., Suite 206         
Palo Alto, CA  94301
P:  650.322.3633                
F:  419.831.3809
E:  tom@tomheasley.com
WEBSITE COMING SOON:  TOMHEASLEY.COM

Upcoming Solo Concerts / Appearances:

Sunday, June 16, 2002  (Father's Day) 7:30 P.M.
First Congregational Church of Berkeley
2345 Channing Way (at Dana)
Tickets at door:  $15.00 General / $10.00 Students, Seniors and Fathers

Friday, June 21, 2002
The Now Festival
Goat Hall, San Francisco


Autumn 2002 Tour will include:

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY (10/3)
Kalvos and Damian's New Music Bazaar, VT (10/5)
Roulette, NYC
The BBC, London, England --=====================_4345445==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 16:08:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26393; Wed, 22 May 2002 16:07:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:07:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CEBFAF5.3FF3E1A9@HelpWantedProductions.com> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:09:25 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" , AH , digitalhell Subject: FS: Symetrix 606 delay/FX thingie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have finally come to the conclusion I'm going to use my Line 6 DL4 a lot more than I'll use this live so it's up for sale. Symetrix 606 Delay/FX - $300. Single rack unit with power cord and a copy of the manual. Excellent condition delay with filter and looping capabilities. VERY programmable with many knobs and settings etc. True stereo (or dual mono) pro delay unit that can mimic old tape delays, offer insane and painful regeneration, or sound crystal clear. Loop or use LFOs to make it a midi syncable monster with even more flavor than the good ol' Lexicon Vortex. Or just use it in realtime tweaking knobs like an old Digitech Time machine on steroids. Some User reviews at: http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Symetrix/606_Delay_FX-01.html Asking $300 plus shipping. Will accept USPS MO or Paypal from verified members (you pay the fees and get immediate shipment). Trades possible. Will sell the the first person to confirm the deal via phone so send a # to speed things up. Thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 16:33:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA27786; Wed, 22 May 2002 16:31:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:31:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006e01c201cf$2b89bba0$284665d5@elias> From: "Elias Faingersh" To: References: <20020522175937.92159.qmail@web21310.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lex MPX-1 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:27:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id QAA27745 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been using MPX1 for a year now. Very solid mashine, great effects. Pretty complicated though, takes some time to get used to. E.F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg House" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:59 PM Subject: Lex MPX-1 > > --- Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > Yeah, that does look perfect... I'm not sure I can swing the $700 US > > for one right now though. Maybe if I save up... > > How well does this thing do all this stuff in practice? So far, I have > yet to use an "all in one" box that was really satisfying. Sure would > be nice to find one, from a standpoint of saving one's back, but it > seems pretty unlikely. > > Any of you using the MPX-1? What are your comments on it? > > Greg > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 17:21:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31666; Wed, 22 May 2002 17:19:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:19:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020522211742.11060.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 14:17:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: Lex MPX-1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020522122136.03711060@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > I use it mostly for pitch programs in tandem with a D-TWO and a DL4. > I like it. Tom, If the MPX-1 does everything it claims, why would you also need the D-Two (and/or DL4)? More (varied) delays at the same time? Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 17:54:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00808; Wed, 22 May 2002 17:53:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:53:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "M. Steven Ginn" To: Subject: RE: Effects units Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:53:08 -0500 Message-ID: <019701c201db$0f5094c0$420e88cf@stevespc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <2y0hSB.A.TM.5MB78@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Italo, Thanks for the info. You just pushed me over the edge and today I put my order in for one (and a new Akai Z8). I am really looking forward to using this processor to bring my sound capabilities up to a new level. Thanks, Steve > > > Hi Steve > Eclipse is the only 1 space rack unit on the market today working > 24bit/96KHz. It has a full array of analog/digital > spdif-aesebu-optical- adat inputs/outputs. The unit has a > collection of about 90 algorithms, > with more to come on next OS releases and CF card libraries. > Eclipse is > a dual engine unit that can run 2 algorithms at the same time. It's > about 5/6 times more powerful than the legendary industry standard > H3000. It features 40 seconds delay, hi-quality verbs, granular > plexverbs, reverse delays, up to 8 voice Eventide pitch > shifting, crazy > preamps, multiband distortion, polyfuzzes, ring modulators, > multi voice > chorus/flanger/delays/shifters, multiband delays, phaser, parametric > eqs, comb delays, resonators, oscillators, reverse shifters, looping > and much more... you can run the 2 engines in different routings. The > unit has a ModBlock that can be used to patch parameters to > modulators, > being midi controllers, tap tempo, Lfo, input dynamics, adsr, > envelope > follower, etc. > You cannot edit Eclipse algorithms to level structure or build your > own: this is something you can only do on > DSP7000/7500/Orville monsters. Nevertheless 90 algorithms > that can be combined in pairs with full > editable parameters, make Eclipse the most open box in the "close > structure" boxes market. We just released a new operative > system, with > new features and more presets. User patches can be saved > internally or > on a CFC card. Patches can be sent/received over the > Internet. OS updates are downloadable from the Net...for > free. Get a chance to give Eclipse a careful > listening...you'll be surprised. Here are its manuals and > info literature: http://www.eventide.com/eclipse/eclipse.htm > We have a support area/forum with many users, Eventide Helps, > at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps/ > lots of info, tutorials, patches, mp3s! > Join it... > > all the best > Italo De Angelis > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been thinking about getting an Eventide Eclipse which looks > > amazing, but I am wondering what anyones thoughts are about > whether or > > not it is worth it for the price? > > > > I recently saw a TC Electronics M2000 for about $700 and > was wondering > > if maybe that might be comparable to the Eclipse and save > me some mone > y > > in the mean time? > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > > > ___________________________________________ > Italo De Angelis > Preset Design Engineer - Audio Division > italo@eventide.com > EVENTIDE AUDIO CUSTOMERS SUPPORT > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps> / > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 18:26:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03863; Wed, 22 May 2002 18:25:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 18:25:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005901c201df$c639b280$1602a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: References: <20020522211742.11060.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lex MPX-1 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 18:26:53 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > I use it mostly for pitch programs in tandem with a D-TWO and a DL4. > > I like it. > > Tom, > > If the MPX-1 does everything it claims, why would you also need the > D-Two (and/or DL4)? More (varied) delays at the same time? > > Greg It has 2 chips. With one you can always get reverb. With the other you have to cook up all your other effects. Some algorthyms use up a lot of this processor so that you cannot build a chain of treatments. You sacrifice here to gain there. It also will only loop 2 seconds - therefore Tom's DL4. Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 20:02:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10370; Wed, 22 May 2002 20:00:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 20:00:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CEC30E0.4CA07254@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:59:28 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers Subject: Re: Effects units References: <000001c2010a$a3035300$0601a8c0@SATAN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've not heard a mention of the Line 6 products. Anyone here using the Mod Pro or the Filter Pro for loop mangeling? Mark Rainer Straschill wrote: > Steve, > > I recently acquired a TC Electronics Fireworx I got used for ?1000, and > although I only found the time to barely check through the presets, I'm > convinced that this is THE device: > > The great thing about the Fireworx is the the great combination of > "traditional" high quality effects (reverbs, pitch shifter, delay), flexible > routing, parameter tweaking and realtime control and the addition of several > extremely weird algorithms. If you absolutely need the best pitch shifter > available - go for Eventide, for the best reverb in town, Lexicon might be > the address, but for my use (I don't need reverbs that sound like a real > room found anywhere on earth, anyway), the Fireworx does the trick as the > "all-in-one single rackspace" machine several people have asked for on this > list recently. > > A few highlights (mentioned partially with regard to ongoing threads here): > the best distortion I found so far in a device that was not made exclusively > for distortion, including digital sampling artifacts generator. A fine > vocoder. A monophonic synth, which can be controlled by a pitch tracker, so > you can have a synth that tracks your voice and sends the corresponding MIDI > notes at the same time. The great "modifier matrix" concept. The filters are > the bomb! > > Back to the discussion which had been ongoing here re: "How many loop > manglers does one need ?": I could live with just the Fireworx as a loop > mangler, plus a second Fireworx for the non-loop stuff, and then I'd be > ready to extremely strip my rack down, getting rid of the Sony GR-MP5, the > Digitech StudioQuad (a great device for its price BTW, the V2 version is > going for below ?125 on ebay recently), the Vortex, the DL4 and the Filter > Factory and just keep the Fireworxes plus a compressor... > > Rainer > > Rainer Straschill > Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de > digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de > The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: M. Steven Ginn [mailto:sginn@airmail.net] > > Sent: Dienstag, 21. Mai 2002 01:03 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Effects units > > > > > > I have been thinking about getting an Eventide Eclipse which looks > > amazing, but I am wondering what anyones thoughts are about whether or > > not it is worth it for the price? > > > > I recently saw a TC Electronics M2000 for about $700 and was wondering > > if maybe that might be comparable to the Eclipse and save me > > some money > > in the mean time? > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 22:23:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18734; Wed, 22 May 2002 22:22:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:22:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002601c20200$4686f360$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> From: "Butch" To: References: <126.110ea926.2a1d2d21@aol.com> Subject: Re: gig spam pittsburgh Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:19:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, I'll try to be there. 'gards, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:19 PM Subject: gig spam pittsburgh > friday 6-9 @ gems of the world, carson st. south side pittsburgh, > 412-432-0300.....more loops than you can stand.....loop content at least > 91%.....you wont be sayin "where's da loops?".....there will also be an "art" > show and "ort" (little bits of food) show i.e. "free eats".....this is enuf > warning, you can get here from anywhere on the planet in time for M > KLOBUCHAR'S LOOP CIRQUS' COME AND WONDER TOUR CONTINUATION.....see ya > there.....michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 22 23:06:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22060; Wed, 22 May 2002 23:05:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 23:05:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17b.8a23dea.2a1db636@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 23:04:22 EDT Subject: Re: gig spam pittsburgh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com look forward to seeing ya.....m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 00:28:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA26556; Thu, 23 May 2002 00:27:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 00:27:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CEC6F1A.669748A6@minds-eye.org> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:24:58 -0700 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loop Subject: OT: Soundcard options Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I know this is off topic, but does anyone have any advice on what the cheapest soundcard with SPDIF capacities might be (used, bare bones, etc.)? I have to admit that I'm fairly clueless about hard disc recording due largely to some kind of irrational block, but I'm trying to get over it. Any advice greatly appreciated. Kevin (a freshly minted Repeater user) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 08:41:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25492; Thu, 23 May 2002 08:39:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:39:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "M. Steven Ginn" To: Subject: RE: Soundcard options Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:39:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01c501c20256$db6ad590$420e88cf@stevespc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3CEC6F1A.669748A6@minds-eye.org> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you aren't too concerned about having great analog to digital converters, the Midiman audiophile 24/96 is not to bad and I believe sells for about $149 at Guitar Center. It will handle Midi, Analog Audio & SPIDF. Steve > > > I know this is off topic, but does anyone have any advice on > what the cheapest soundcard with SPDIF capacities might be > (used, bare bones, etc.)? I have to admit that I'm fairly > clueless about hard disc recording due largely to some kind > of irrational block, but I'm trying to get over it. > > Any advice greatly appreciated. > > Kevin (a freshly minted Repeater user) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 09:25:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28895; Thu, 23 May 2002 09:24:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:24:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Soundcard options Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:23:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com M- Audio 2496 is pretty loaded and comes in sub-$200. Cross platform. Midi and Spdif and analog I/O downside is i think their drivers a little wonky but that's probably true for a lot of manus out there. also audio connectors are RCA which is lame. Im using it successfully for the most part. midiman.com Ben -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:kevin@minds-eye.org] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:25 AM To: loop Subject: OT: Soundcard options I know this is off topic, but does anyone have any advice on what the cheapest soundcard with SPDIF capacities might be (used, bare bones, etc.)? I have to admit that I'm fairly clueless about hard disc recording due largely to some kind of irrational block, but I'm trying to get over it. Any advice greatly appreciated. Kevin (a freshly minted Repeater user) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 09:41:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30039; Thu, 23 May 2002 09:40:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:40:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <153.e46c4be.2a1e4af3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:38:59 EDT Subject: sightings To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com in the latest "guitar palayer": a short review of ted killian's "flux aeterna", very very cool.....congrats ted.....and a short albeit useless review of the electrix repeater.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 11:20:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05043; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:18:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:18:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: ArsOcarina@aol.com Message-ID: <1ab.2a6e855.2a1e61d2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:16:34 EDT Subject: Re: sightings To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mike, et al, In a message dated 5/23/02 6:39:21 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: >in the latest "guitar palayer": a short review of ted killian's "flux >aeterna", very very cool.....congrats ted.....and a short albeit useless >review of the electrix repeater.....michael There's a somewhat longer (and much nicer) review of Steve Lawson's "Conversations" CD in the latest Bass Player mag. Check that out too. His disc is much more deserving IMHO. Those of you who have not heard it yet are realy missing something. On the page facing the repeater review (in GP) is an "advert" for my CD too (right next to the one for Ten Years After). But don't be confused if the ad calls it a "new" CD. Yes, I know it's over 10 months old now. When neither you nor the label has a lot of moolah it takes a while to get around to doing some things . . . like advertising. The ad is an experiment of sorts. If it works . . . we may be able to get rid of a few CDs and help set things up for making (and marketing, to some extent) the next one. Yeah . . . silly idea isn't it? Why do I do these things? I dunno. Anywho . . . Mike, thanks for noticing. Maybe others will as well. Best, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 11:55:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06862; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:53:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:53:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: Re: Noisy EDP From: Jeffrey Lomas To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3CE53E58.80BCB46F@bagend.com> References: <021401c1fdaf$c49ad4b0$420e88cf@stevespc> <3CE53E58.80BCB46F@bagend.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.4.99 Date: 23 May 2002 11:48:44 -0400 Message-Id: <1022168928.15450.43.camel@skinny> Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for the valuable input, all. Signal path is definitely a concern of mine that I've been trying to resolve. I have a stereo acoustic guitar rig and I run my soundhole pickup into the EDP after it comes out of the TCElectronic GMajor. Both the EDP and the TC are on the send/return path of my preamp. Left Channel: TC>EDP Right Channel: TC only This works great for when I use the octaver to create bass loops and then switch to another effect for another part. After some more playing and geeking out on my end I'll let you all know what I find. Thanks again, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 12:20:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09823; Thu, 23 May 2002 12:19:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:19:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgrob@pop.ssa.terra.com.br Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:18:23 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: best Brasil Loop Percussionist in NY! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Giba Conceicao, um dos melhores percussionistas de Salvador, Brasil, e uma pessoa muito agradavel e alegre, will visit NY the next two weeks. He does not only know all brasilian rhythms but plays some tabla and darabuca and marimba... His speciality are quica, pandeiro, caxixi. He uses an EDP, but probably will not bring it. Could anyone suggest how he could make some $ in this time? I suppose there is the loopers meeting he could participate... Anyone wants to learn from him? Thank you -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 13:00:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13264; Thu, 23 May 2002 12:59:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:59:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Wjguitar@aol.com Message-ID: <2f.27b890ef.2a1e79ab@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:58:19 EDT Subject: Re: best Brasil Loop Percussionist in NY! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2f.27b890ef.2a1e79ab_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10504 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_2f.27b890ef.2a1e79ab_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/23/02 12:18:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, matthias@grob.org writes: > Giba Conceicao, um dos melhores percussionistas de Salvador, Brasil, > e uma pessoa muito agradavel e alegre, will visit NY the next two > weeks. > He should try to get over to the Iridium in NYC....on Monday Nights is Les Paul night.....He can meet many artists there and perhaps sit in. If he gets any NYC gigs...have him let me know, I'd like to come see him...Wjguitar@aol.com --part1_2f.27b890ef.2a1e79ab_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/23/02 12:18:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, matthias@grob.org writes:


Giba Conceicao, um dos melhores percussionistas de Salvador, Brasil,
e uma pessoa muito agradavel e alegre, will visit NY the next two
weeks.


He should try to get over to the Iridium in NYC....on Monday Nights is Les Paul night.....He can meet many artists there and perhaps sit in.

If he gets any NYC gigs...have him let me know, I'd like to come see him...Wjguitar@aol.com --part1_2f.27b890ef.2a1e79ab_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 13:09:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13836; Thu, 23 May 2002 13:08:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:08:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [67.104.22.70] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, rumori@detritus.net Subject: Field Effects 4 - Friday, May 31 8:30 pm Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:07:13 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2002 17:07:14.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[48F6A880:01C2027C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ---------[ Quiet American presents at 964 Natoma ]-------------------- Field Effects 4: a night of beauty made by the world Friday, May 31st Doors 8pm, performance 8:30pm $6-10 sliding, no one turned away for lack of funds ----> Event Description <----------------------------------------------- The world makes music, remember to listen. Field Effects 4 offers a night of field recording sound art performance. The fourth in an ongoing series of concerts showcasing sound artists who work with found and quiet sounds, Field Effects 4 offers a unique opportunity to hear delicate work performed in a comfortable environment. Come out for a night of communal deep listening! Field Effects 4 features work by artists: albert ortega & mitchell brown (LA) The focus of albert & mitchell's collaboration is exploring the acoustic effects of environmental sounds as they travel through different spaces and times. Chosen locations include a cave in the Mojave Desert, an abandoned watertower in Malibu, and a manmade tunnel in Mt. Washington. Our chosen tools: a chime and a monitor device that uses contact mics. The result is a circular coelescence of natural occurances (distant birds, footsteps, speech, monitor feedback) interacting with the resonant qualities of each location. Each location yields a harmonically different recording; implicit fluctuating intervals and beat patterns are examined by the live use of a low frequency oscillator. Mitchell Brown creates intricate sound collages from pre-recorded materials integrated with real-time loop units, contact microphones, tone generators, etc. He hosts a weekly sound collage radio program. One of his current projects is AralinaPing, a trio showcasing the intuitive talents of two developmentally disabled children. Albert Ortega uses his surroundings as an instrument to capture the sounds of his handbuilt creations, or is it the other way around? His recent LA River installation coerced some bystanders to pick up and hang trash on an amplified wire. He also performs in several experimental groups such as Consolidated Lint and Klaxon Hooves. coelacanth (SF) Loren Chasse and Jim Haynes actively pursue evocation, empathy, and transcendence through sound under the moniker Coelacanth. Initially, Coelacanth's quest may have been to engage the drone supreme; but the duo is distracted by the minutae of sound itself, the sudden revelation of the history of decay, the sublime beauty of nature... The drone goes on, but its course may be quite circuitous. Coelacanth has previously invoked creakingly creepy submariner ambience as if the oxidization process itself had been amplified within the realm of the audible. Spiked electrical surges and controlled feedback oscillations, a symphony of tiny whirring machines, gritty textual striations, blissful tone float of dense bell reverberations and oceanic washes of shortwave... Chasse and Haynes make concerted efforts to actively develop their performances into extrordinary visual displays, with elaborate sets of shattered Christmas bulbs, piles of rusted metal, surplus scientific gear, and massive piles of branches. Coelacanth has performed extensively in the Bay Area and released the acclaimed "The Chronograph" on Jef Cantu's Partition label. Loren Chasse is a veteran of the "lowercase" school of quiet minimalism with a handful of poetically created solo albums of processed field recording, and makes contributions to Id Battery with Brandon LaBelle, and the hazy psychedelics with Thuja, The Blithe Sons, The Knit Separates, and The Child Readers. Jim Haynes is an artist who describes his work through the phrase: "I rust things." He also writes for The Wire and happily toils at Aquarius Records in San Francisco. http://www.23five.org/lchasse/ dajuin yao (Berkeley) "I have been seriously recording that place since 1997 - not its natural environments at all, but the sounds of its people, culture - the humanistic. Sounds were captured at various important sites, from the 1200-year-old, once private and forbidden seplucher of a young princess 50 feet underground, to a modern metropolitan subway station where a blind woman sings... all in different architectural and acoustic spaces. Presented out of context, and without pages of transcription & footnotes, they might be appreciated as no more than "objet sonore"; yet to this listener at least, they are full of the pungent smells of history and culture, of people's lives, of tears and laughters... These then are my "inner sites." For this program, I have no interests in any prescribed mode of listening (e.g., the "reduced listening" mode a la Pierre Schaeffer, or the much needed cultural mode of listening), or even the MAX/MSPing of the sound files into artwork; I believe in the power and magic inherent in them, as is. My interest here is experimenting with multiple modes of listening, the possibilities in listening ..." http://www.sinologic.com/yao/ kaveh soofi (SF) Wayang Formations is a new piece based on recorded Balinese music and field recordings captured while honeymooning last year in Indonesia. Intended as an homage to Balinese visual and aural culture, this piece uses manipulated sound and video to expressing the sophistication of the Wayang Kulit, or shadow puppet performance. Bouncing between interactive montage and audio-tourism, Wayang Formations attempts to re-mediate a fraction of the visual delight of this ancient, compelling art form. Kaveh Soofi is a visual artist working and studying in San Francisco. http://www.invisiblemindeater.net The Field Effects series showcases artists who are interested in framing the hidden beauty of the everyday world: beauty on the surface, awaiting our attention. Beauty that must be delicately extracted. And beauty in potential, awaiting juxtaposition, collage, repetition and mutilation. Field recordings are made out in the world, not the studio. Fair game: machines, animals, weather, vehicles, buskers, hawkers, hawks, preachers, telephones, taxis, and the mad. (Things have voices: do you hear?) Seating mostly on futons to encourage comfortable deep listening. Depending on weather, hot or cold drinks will be available. Baked delights by Diane Peter. ----> Venue Info <------------------------------------------------------ 964 Natoma San Francisco, CA, USA between Mission and Howard, 10th and 11th street, south of market. A few blocks from Civic Center BART. One block from Market & Van Ness. Bike parking inside. ----> Additional Info <------------------------------------------------- ghede@well.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 14:36:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19968; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:35:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:35:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020523183518.99944.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:35:18 -0700 (PDT) From: SRice Subject: Where is the end? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <590cx.A.C3E.oZT78@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yo loopers! What strategies do people use to know when a loop ends when adding overdubs? Ie, how do you know when to stop adding the overdub because the length of the base loop is almost up, so you don't overlap the overdub with itself. Some thoughts I have are: Play a certain number of beats on the first dub and count beats on the following overdubs Put in a musical signal to mark the end of the loop, eg break, double beat, different note... Make the contents of the first loop unique so you can follow it easily so you always know where you are in the loop Some of my question may derive from the facts that I am primarily a percussionist, and I use the one track Boss RC-20. Yours in rhythm, Steve __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 14:36:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19967; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:35:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:35:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:35:36 -0500 Message-ID: <006301c20291$034b86b0$1f64a8c0@billscomp> From: "Bill Cummings" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: "Bill Cummings" References: Subject: Re: best Brasil Loop Percussionist in NY (tell him to check this out if he's around tonight!!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well if he's in town tonight, Mino Cinelu is playing at The Cutting Room, 19 W. 24th (6th & B'way), New York, NY 10010, TEL: (212) 691-1900 with his Trio. I know he's got a DJ in the group too, and would not be suprised if there was some looping going on. (Certainly will be plenty of World-Class percussion and improvisation going on). It's a 10 o'clock hit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Grob" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: best Brasil Loop Percussionist in NY! > Giba Conceicao, um dos melhores percussionistas de Salvador, Brasil, > e uma pessoa muito agradavel e alegre, will visit NY the next two > weeks. > He does not only know all brasilian rhythms but plays some tabla and > darabuca and marimba... His speciality are quica, pandeiro, caxixi. > > He uses an EDP, but probably will not bring it. > > Could anyone suggest how he could make some $ in this time? > > I suppose there is the loopers meeting he could participate... > > Anyone wants to learn from him? > > Thank you > -- > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 14:40:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20627; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:39:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:39:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:39:43 -0500 Message-ID: <007201c20291$96b939b0$1f64a8c0@billscomp> From: "Bill Cummings" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: "Bill Cummings" References: <006301c20291$034b86b0$1f64a8c0@billscomp> Subject: Re: Mino Cinelu at the CUTTING ROOM tonight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <4w4fMB.A.ACF.idT78@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com oh yea, if you want to check out a page about Mino, go here: http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/bluethumb/artist.asp?aid=2783 if you want to access the home page for The Cutting Room, it's here: http://www.thecuttingroomnyc.com/livestuf.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cummings" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:35 PM Subject: Re: best Brasil Loop Percussionist in NY (tell him to check this out if he's around tonight!!) > Well if he's in town tonight, Mino Cinelu is playing at The Cutting Room, 19 > W. 24th (6th & B'way), New York, NY 10010, TEL: (212) 691-1900 > with his Trio. I know he's got a DJ in the group too, and would not be > suprised if there was some looping going on. (Certainly will be plenty of > World-Class percussion and improvisation going on). It's a 10 o'clock hit. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthias Grob" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:18 AM > Subject: best Brasil Loop Percussionist in NY! > > > > Giba Conceicao, um dos melhores percussionistas de Salvador, Brasil, > > e uma pessoa muito agradavel e alegre, will visit NY the next two > > weeks. > > He does not only know all brasilian rhythms but plays some tabla and > > darabuca and marimba... His speciality are quica, pandeiro, caxixi. > > > > He uses an EDP, but probably will not bring it. > > > > Could anyone suggest how he could make some $ in this time? > > > > I suppose there is the loopers meeting he could participate... > > > > Anyone wants to learn from him? > > > > Thank you > > -- > > > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 14:47:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21121; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC50@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" Subject: totally ot . . . Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2028A.1869BB40" Resent-Message-ID: <3U7Id.A.qJF.ijT78@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028A.1869BB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" sorry, but you all are a great resource. does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music? mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool. i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except they do that other stuff. thanks, stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028A.1869BB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable totally ot . . .

sorry, but you all are a great resource.

does anybody out there know of any good places to = find hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") = "classical" music?

mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool.

i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery = or wayside, except they do that other stuff.

thanks,

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028A.1869BB40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 14:54:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21710; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:53:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:53:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:52:52 -0500 Message-ID: <008d01c20293$6cf9e640$1f64a8c0@billscomp> From: "Bill Cummings" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: "Bill Cummings" References: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC50@mitorexch01.maritz.com> Subject: Re: totally ot . . . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008A_01C20269.83E5EAE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C20269.83E5EAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable totally ot . . .what about e-bay? My brother buys TONS of used cds there = all the time (as well as DVD's, Videos & Lazer-Discs) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: Looper's Delight (E-mail)=20 Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 1:46 PM Subject: totally ot . . .=20 sorry, but you all are a great resource.=20 does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or = used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music?=20 mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool.=20 i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except = they do that other stuff.=20 thanks,=20 stig=20 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C20269.83E5EAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable totally ot . . .
what about e-bay? My brother buys TONS = of used cds=20 there all the time (as well as DVD's, Videos & = Lazer-Discs)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: Looper's Delight=20 (E-mail)
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 = 1:46=20 PM
Subject: totally ot . . . =

sorry, but you all are a great resource.

does anybody out there know of any good places to = find=20 hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" = music?=20

mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool. =

i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery = or=20 wayside, except they do that other stuff.

thanks,

stig

------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C20269.83E5EAE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 15:07:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24007; Thu, 23 May 2002 15:06:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:06:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: totally ot . . . Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:04:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2028C.B4DE9C00" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028C.B4DE9C00 Content-Type: text/plain www.newworldrecords.org Is a label that specializes in American music not otherwise represented in the commercial marketplace. Heavy emphasis on "contemporary" 20th century classical & Avant Garde Jazz. They get grants to fund recordings from the NEA, Lila Wallace, Rockefeller Foundation, etc. So the recordings they put out are usually very high quality. I used to work there and have most of the catalog from 5-years ago back to the company's inception. So let me know if you have any questions about an older release. Hope that helps, Carl -----Original Message----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. [mailto:Steuart.Liebig@maritz.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:46 PM To: Looper's Delight (E-mail) Subject: totally ot . . . sorry, but you all are a great resource. does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music? mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool. i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except they do that other stuff. thanks, stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028C.B4DE9C00 Content-Type: text/html totally ot . . .

www.newworldrecords.org

 

Is a label that specializes in American music not otherwise represented in the commercial marketplace. Heavy emphasis on "contemporary" 20th century classical & Avant Garde Jazz.

 

They get grants to fund recordings from the NEA, Lila Wallace, Rockefeller Foundation, etc.  So the recordings they put out are usually very high quality.

 

I used to work there and have most of the catalog from 5-years ago back to the company's inception. So let me know if you have any questions about an older release.

 

Hope that helps,

 

Carl

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Liebig, Steuart A. [mailto:Steuart.Liebig@maritz.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Looper's Delight (E-mail)
Subject: totally ot . . .

 

sorry, but you all are a great resource.

does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music?

mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool.

i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except they do that other stuff.

thanks,

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028C.B4DE9C00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 15:08:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23492; Thu, 23 May 2002 15:01:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:01:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003601c2028c$031b6840$0801a8c0@vz.dsl.genuity.net> From: "Clifford Novey" To: References: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC50@mitorexch01.maritz.com> Subject: Re: totally ot . . . Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:55:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C20250.C8DA8AC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <-wDTm.A.MuF.bxT78@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C20250.C8DA8AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable totally ot . . .There is that great vinyl shop that was on Melrose by = Paramount studios- they moved down near Fairfax still on Melrose- c----- = Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: Looper's Delight (E-mail)=20 Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: totally ot . . .=20 sorry, but you all are a great resource.=20 does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or = used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music?=20 mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool.=20 i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except = they do that other stuff.=20 thanks,=20 stig=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C20250.C8DA8AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable totally ot . . .
There is that great vinyl shop that was on Melrose = by=20 Paramount studios- they moved down near Fairfax still on Melrose- = c-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: Looper's Delight=20 (E-mail)
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 = 11:46=20 AM
Subject: totally ot . . . =

sorry, but you all are a great resource.

does anybody out there know of any good places to = find=20 hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" = music?=20

mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool. =

i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery = or=20 wayside, except they do that other stuff.

thanks,

stig

------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C20250.C8DA8AC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 15:20:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25066; Thu, 23 May 2002 15:19:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:19:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC55@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: totally ot . . . Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:14:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2028E.1E3904A0" Resent-Message-ID: <1Ro-RB.A.KHG.zCU78@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028E.1E3904A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" cool. or course the amoeba store in hollywood is pretty good as well. stig -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Novey [mailto:om@Om-Studios.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: totally ot . . . There is that great vinyl shop that was on Melrose by Paramount studios- they moved down near Fairfax still on Melrose- c----- Original Message ----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. To: Looper's Delight (E-mail) Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: totally ot . . . sorry, but you all are a great resource. does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music? mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool. i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except they do that other stuff. thanks, stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028E.1E3904A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" totally ot . . .
cool.
 
or course the amoeba store in hollywood is pretty good as well.
 
stig
-----Original Message-----
From: Clifford Novey [mailto:om@Om-Studios.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: totally ot . . .

There is that great vinyl shop that was on Melrose by Paramount studios- they moved down near Fairfax still on Melrose- c----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:46 AM
Subject: totally ot . . .

sorry, but you all are a great resource.

does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music?

mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool.

i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except they do that other stuff.

thanks,

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028E.1E3904A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 15:21:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25128; Thu, 23 May 2002 15:20:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:20:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC54@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: totally ot . . . Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:14:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2028E.0A6EA470" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028E.0A6EA470 Content-Type: text/plain thanks, i'm hip to them. i'm looking for clearing houses/shops of many labels. stig -----Original Message----- From: CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com [mailto:CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:05 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: totally ot . . . www.newworldrecords.org Is a label that specializes in American music not otherwise represented in the commercial marketplace. Heavy emphasis on "contemporary" 20th century classical & Avant Garde Jazz. They get grants to fund recordings from the NEA, Lila Wallace, Rockefeller Foundation, etc. So the recordings they put out are usually very high quality. I used to work there and have most of the catalog from 5-years ago back to the company's inception. So let me know if you have any questions about an older release. Hope that helps, Carl -----Original Message----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. [mailto:Steuart.Liebig@maritz.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:46 PM To: Looper's Delight (E-mail) Subject: totally ot . . . sorry, but you all are a great resource. does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music? mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool. i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except they do that other stuff. thanks, stig Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028E.0A6EA470 Content-Type: text/html totally ot . . .
thanks, i'm hip to them. i'm looking for clearing houses/shops of many labels.
 
stig
-----Original Message-----
From: CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com [mailto:CarlJacobson@cakewalk.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:05 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: totally ot . . .

www.newworldrecords.org

 

Is a label that specializes in American music not otherwise represented in the commercial marketplace. Heavy emphasis on "contemporary" 20th century classical & Avant Garde Jazz.

 

They get grants to fund recordings from the NEA, Lila Wallace, Rockefeller Foundation, etc.  So the recordings they put out are usually very high quality.

 

I used to work there and have most of the catalog from 5-years ago back to the company's inception. So let me know if you have any questions about an older release.

 

Hope that helps,

 

Carl

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Liebig, Steuart A. [mailto:Steuart.Liebig@maritz.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Looper's Delight (E-mail)
Subject: totally ot . . .

 

sorry, but you all are a great resource.

does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music?

mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool.

i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except they do that other stuff.

thanks,

stig



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2028E.0A6EA470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 15:22:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25298; Thu, 23 May 2002 15:21:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:21:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.129.91.149] From: "terry o'brien" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: totally ot . . . Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:20:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2002 19:20:15.0909 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE5DB550:01C2028E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Try Atomic Records in Burbank. I've purchased some real gems there. But be warned, they are not cheap when it comes to rarities/collectables, but the quality is excellent. Terry www.anomalousdisturbances.com >From: "Liebig, Steuart A." >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" >Subject: totally ot . . . >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:05 -0400 > >sorry, but you all are a great resource. > >does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used >20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music? > >mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool. > >i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except they >do that other stuff. > >thanks, > >stig _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 18:41:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09016; Thu, 23 May 2002 18:40:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:40:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 23:39:28 +0100 Subject: re: Sightings and Advertising From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>There's a somewhat longer (and much nicer) review of Steve Lawson's "Conversations" CD in the latest Bass Player mag. Check that out too. His disc is much more deserving IMHO. Those of you who have not heard it yet are realy missing something.<<< Ted, thanks very much for that! It is a rather nice review, posted below for those who haven't seen it... "STEVE LAWSON & JEZ CARR Conversations (Pillow Mountain: www.steve-lawson.co.uk) Bassist: Lawson Instrument: Fretless Modulus OB6 Lawson's second release, a totally improvised collection features pianist Jez Carr. Lawson's penchant for capturing the moment always leaves room for fun surprises. recorded live without "studio trickery," Lawson's fretless (played through Line6 DL4 delay pedal) conjures a massive range of tender, brutal and sometimes hilarious emotions. (EF)" There are sound clips on both the websites listed below... >>>On the page facing the repeater review (in GP) is an "advert" for my CD too (right next to the one for Ten Years After). But don't be confused if the ad calls it a "new" CD. Yes, I know it's over 10 months old now. When neither you nor the label has a lot of moolah it takes a while to get around to doing some things . . . like advertising. <<< I really hope you get some good sales out of it Ted. Where else have people advertised their music, and what levels of success have you had with it? I've just put both of my CDs up for sale at www.cdbaby.com which looks like a great site. Clear listings, good search facilities, and a good financial deal... we'll see what happens with sales... cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk www.pillowmountainrecords.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 19:15:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11831; Thu, 23 May 2002 19:14:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:14:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [67.104.22.70] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: 20th Century / contemporary CD mailorder Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:13:27 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2002 23:13:27.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[71C1E4E0:01C202AF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Aquarius Records in SF has a website where you can hear samples and place mailorders: www.aquariusrecordssf.com You might also like www.forcedexposure.com, which is a great resource for all sorts of non-mainstream music. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 23 19:23:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12380; Thu, 23 May 2002 19:22:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:22:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CED7904.DB0051EE@ernieball.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:19:32 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: BSP: armatronix w/ zachary stowasser & d.funk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Armatronix , Kevin Menton , Funky@ernieball.com, Greg Wuller , Miles Brown , Daniel Henderson , Keith Kurczewski , Jay Russki , Jagjit Chadha , Nathan Korman , Commissioner , Nathan Daly , Alison Rule , Daniel Seymour , Shane Stoneman , Johnee Ganga , Catharsis , Greg Stahler , Brian Skinner , Mark Diel , Loopers Delight , Zachary Stowasser , Ryan McLain , ccraves , Ben Korman , cory paul , Ali Brown , Robert Batty , Crystal Taub , DJ semaJ , Chris Peck , Nicole Kissam , Joel , Dan Ernst , Zachary Park , Armatronix From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: <0t9UIC.A.MAD.XlX78@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello again, Time for another installment of the ol' obligatory Blatant Self Promotion. If you're getting sick of these, please write me a polite note and I'll be happy to remove you from the List. Once again, this Friday May 24th, armatronix will grace the historic stage of Sweet Springs Saloon, Los Osos' finest drinking and dining establishment. For your dancing pleasure, I'm honored to share the bill this time with DJs Zachary Stowasser and D.Funk. Diji-D is in Costa Rica, so I'll be flying solo during armatronix' set. I'm also happy to announce our new partnership with Red Bull, makers of fine energy beverages. While they last, Red Bull and vodka will be the same price as a shot of vodka. So come down early and tie one on! The show will start around 9:30 pm and last until 1:30 am, and the cover is only $3! Sorry kids, 21 and over only. And if you're not there I hope you have a good excuse this time. :) Your pal, -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 00:19:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA31121; Fri, 24 May 2002 00:18:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 00:18:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 00:14:09 -0400 From: skincage Subject: diy isobox To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <027e01c202d9$73ebfec0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com for the computer-based folks (since i imagine there are a lot of you): has anyone come up with a cheap but decent way of cutting down on fan noise that retains safe ventilation? fan noise didn't use to get to me but now it's really starting to. i've considered using extension cables, but then i'd have to go to another room to put in CDRs or cold boot. surely there's a better way without dropping a grand on a professional isolation cabinet. thanks! jon/skincage From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 10:39:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03861; Fri, 24 May 2002 10:38:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 10:38:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008101c20330$7480b220$b8e75cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: Cc: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Fw: Spice girls' vocal concert Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 10:36:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Anthony, Your computer possibly has a virus and has either sent it directly to me or via Loopers Delight (hence the copy to the list). The three files the virus sent are: 88.3 KB 0 bytes 12.6 KB Please check/disinfect your PC and good luck! Dear Kim, Do you have the capability to block all attachments from being retransmitted to list members? I feel it's a wise choice to do so if possible, for obvious reasons. Cheers, Bill ================ Return-Path: Delivered-To: billfox@fast.net Received: (qmail 7564 invoked from network); 24 May 2002 03:09:46 -0000 Received: from newmx1.fast.net ([209.92.1.31]) (envelope-sender <>) by mailstore1.fast.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with QMQP for <>; 24 May 2002 03:09:46 -0000 Delivered-To: CLUSTERHOST newmx1.fast.net billfox@fast.net Received: (qmail 1700 invoked from network); 24 May 2002 03:09:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) ([206.13.28.241]) (envelope-sender ) by newmx1.fast.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 May 2002 03:09:45 -0000 Received: from Thd ([63.199.6.112]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GWL00GOII3YOE@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for billfox@fast.net; Thu, 23 May 2002 20:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net From: douglas Subject: Spice girls' vocal concert To: billfox@fast.net Message-id: <0GWL00GOKI3YOE@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_xRXPRqjApT1C9Qrepv+ALw)" ----- Original Message ----- From: "douglas" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Spice girls' vocal concert > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 11:13:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07510; Fri, 24 May 2002 11:11:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:11:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d001c20334$d8d33be0$b8e75cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist $270 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:07:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ] EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #270 May 23, 2002. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Steve Roach and vidnaObmana, who will be making rare concert appearances together at Projektfest and the Gathering this coming Memorial Day weekend. The Featured CD at midnight was "Live Archive" on the Groove label. The vinyl show starter was from the LP "Deluxe" by Harmonia on the Brain label. I played the music of The Ministry of Inside Things who will be performing at the next event in the Soundscapes Concert Series on June 22. Details can be seen on the Events page. Steve Roach and vidnaObmana http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2002/focus02.html#may The Ministry of Inside Things http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic/events.html PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Harmonia Notre Dame Deluxe (Brain) John Rose O.B.E. Cosmogenesis (Space for Music) Darshan Ambient Worm Asleep Darshan Ambient (none) Klangwelt Metallino Weltweit (Spheric Music) Terra Ambient The Breathing Earth The Darker Space (none) Ministry of Inside While the Rest of the Live at the ICA (Synkronos) Things World Sleeps Chris Short and Quest for Paradise The Yellow House (In the Vir Unis Bubble Music) Tom Heasley Prelude * On the Sensastions of Tone (Innova) Roach & Obmana Verucchio Invocation Live Archive (Groove) 12:00 am Roach & Obmana Common Ground Live Archive (Groove) Roach & Obmana Two Reptiles Live Archive (Groove) Roach & Obmana Dreampipe Dialogue Live Archive (Groove) Roach & Obmana Soundworld Collage Live Archive (Groove) Roach & Obmana Ascension Live Archive (Groove) Roach & Obmana Tribal Perspective Live Archive (Groove) Roach & Obmana Divine Innermission Live Archive (Groove) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach and vidnaObmana. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Circles and Artifacts" on the Contemporary Harmonic label. The vinyl show starter will be from the LP "Planeten Sit-In" by the Cosmic Jokers on the Ohr label. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic =============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!] SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://www.tadream.net/soundscapes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 12:21:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12509; Fri, 24 May 2002 12:19:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:19:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020524090846.00b08c60@pop.charter.net> X-Sender: armatronix@pop.charter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:17:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: armatronix Subject: Re: sightings (Gary Hall) In-Reply-To: <1ab.2a6e855.2a1e61d2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com While we're on the topic of press, I noticed an article by our friend, looping hardware pioneer Gary Hall, in the June Electronic Musician magazine - the one with the "Endless Loops" cover: MASTER CLASS: THE MAX FACTOR The designer of Lexicon's classic PCM42 digital delay reveals how he created a virtual PCM42 with updated features, including surround outputs, using Cycling '74's powerful Max/MSP programming environment. Learn all the steps you need to know to build your own signal-processing devices. by Gary S. Hall Check it out! -Hans Lindauer At 08:16 23/05/2002, you wrote: >Mike, et al, > >In a message dated 5/23/02 6:39:21 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: > > >in the latest "guitar palayer": a short review of ted killian's "flux > >aeterna", very very cool.....congrats ted.....and a short albeit useless > >review of the electrix repeater.....michael > >There's a somewhat longer (and much nicer) review of Steve Lawson's >"Conversations" CD in the latest Bass Player mag. Check that out too. >His disc is much more deserving IMHO. Those of you who have not >heard it yet are realy missing something. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 12:23:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12894; Fri, 24 May 2002 12:22:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:22:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020524091759.00b1b250@pop.charter.net> X-Sender: hlindauer@pop.charter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:20:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Hans Lindauer Subject: Tape Op Conference Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is anybody else planning on attending the Tape Op Conference next weekend in Sacramento (California, USA)? -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 12:27:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13413; Fri, 24 May 2002 12:26:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:26:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020524092117.00b3fdd0@pop.charter.net> X-Sender: hlindauer@pop.charter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:25:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Hans Lindauer Subject: Am I the virus guy? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello all- Has anyone else gotten a virus (or bullshit SPAM other than armatronix self-promotion) that appears to be from my work e-mail address (hans@ernieball.com)? I ran Norton Antivirus and came up clean, but I'm still not convinced. Thanks, -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 12:30:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13826; Fri, 24 May 2002 12:29:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:29:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <169.e17b31e.2a1fc450@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:29:04 EDT Subject: confession To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_169.e17b31e.2a1fc450_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_169.e17b31e.2a1fc450_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/24/02 12:18:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, armatronix@charter.net writes: > Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: > > > in the latest "guitar palayer": < thats right, im a guitar palayer, whatcha goina do about it?.....:).....m --part1_169.e17b31e.2a1fc450_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/24/02 12:18:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, armatronix@charter.net writes:


Nemoguitt@aol.com writes:

> in the latest "guitar palayer": <


thats right, im a guitar palayer, whatcha goina do about it?.....:).....m --part1_169.e17b31e.2a1fc450_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 12:44:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14627; Fri, 24 May 2002 12:38:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:38:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020524093426.00b3f2c0@pop.charter.net> X-Sender: armatronix@pop.charter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:37:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: armatronix Subject: Re: confession In-Reply-To: <169.e17b31e.2a1fc450@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Now, that's original - trying to start a flame war with yourself! :) -Hans At 09:29 24/05/2002, you wrote: >In a message dated 5/24/02 12:18:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >armatronix@charter.net writes: > > >>Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: >> >> > in the latest "guitar palayer": < > > >thats right, im a guitar palayer, whatcha goina do about it?.....:).....m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 13:05:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17438; Fri, 24 May 2002 13:04:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:04:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Tape Op Conference Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:03:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com really wanted to go but schedules didn't permit. anyone goes, think we'd all be curious your take on the experience. Ben -----Original Message----- From: Hans Lindauer [mailto:armatronix@charter.net] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 12:21 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Tape Op Conference Is anybody else planning on attending the Tape Op Conference next weekend in Sacramento (California, USA)? -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 13:58:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20242; Fri, 24 May 2002 13:57:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:57:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CEE7E9F.5A44031F@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 10:55:42 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Am I the virus guy? References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020524092117.00b3fdd0@pop.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, I've been getting a ton from you and other addresses at Ernieball, though none yesterday or today. I'm thinking it the windows worm Klez which is supposed to send something random to all the people in your address book, and to people in your sent folder. Maybe the Norton worked, because there seems to be a lull for the moment. Initally, I was sending people warnings back, but I just got tired and figured eventually people would clean their machines off. Mark Hans Lindauer wrote: > Hello all- > > Has anyone else gotten a virus (or bullshit SPAM other than armatronix > self-promotion) that appears to be from my work e-mail address > (hans@ernieball.com)? I ran Norton Antivirus and came up clean, but I'm > still not convinced. > > Thanks, > > -Hans Lindauer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 14:12:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22382; Fri, 24 May 2002 14:11:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:11:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Jim Poppen" To: Subject: RE: diy isobox Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:11:58 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <027e01c202d9$73ebfec0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a common complaint for DAWers. I've done a little research on "quiet" power supplies and came up with this: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/home.htm and this: http://www.quietpcusa.com/ but that link is dead on my end. PC Power and Cooling makes an "ultra quiet" PS that some have raved about and some have shrugged at (these "some" are usenet posters). I think Antec(?) makes cases and supplies that are thought to be quiet too. Even though I haven't tried one of these supplies myself, I've given up on the idea of quiet fans solving the problem -- they can never be quiet enough. I've yet to find a solution myself besides getting as far away from the box as possible when mic recording. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: skincage [mailto:skincage@infin8ty.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:14 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: diy isobox > > > for the computer-based folks (since i imagine there are a lot of you): > > has anyone come up with a cheap but decent way of cutting down on > fan noise that retains safe > ventilation? fan noise didn't use to get to me but now it's > really starting to. i've > considered using extension cables, but then i'd have to go to > another room to put in CDRs or > cold boot. surely there's a better way without dropping a grand > on a professional isolation > cabinet. > > thanks! > > jon/skincage > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 14:14:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22763; Fri, 24 May 2002 14:13:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:13:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020524181243.98385.qmail@web20010.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:12:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Meyers Subject: RE: Tape Op Conference To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just got my first issue a day or two ago and I must say that it is one of the most impressive rags i've ever seen. it is really great to see a magazine geared at exactly what i'm interested in. all of the other gear porn that i read is great, but this is all about the diyers! thanks list! appreciate the heads up on this as well as the link to the free subscription! e va n|s sa b --- "Reid, Benjamin" wrote: > really wanted to go but schedules didn't permit. > > anyone goes, think we'd all be curious your take on > the experience. > > Ben > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Lindauer [mailto:armatronix@charter.net] > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 12:21 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Tape Op Conference > > > Is anybody else planning on attending the Tape Op > Conference next weekend > in Sacramento (California, USA)? > > -Hans Lindauer > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 15:17:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27970; Fri, 24 May 2002 15:16:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:16:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020524112745.07309650@loopers-delight.com> X-Sender: kflint@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:16:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Fw: Spice girls' vocal concert In-Reply-To: <008101c20330$7480b220$b8e75cd1@LocalHost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 07:36 AM 5/24/2002, Bill Fox wrote: >Dear Kim, > >Do you have the capability to block all attachments from being >retransmitted to >list members? I feel it's a wise choice to do so if possible, for obvious >reasons. Bill, as far as I know these viruses are not going through the list. The message header you pasted below indicates that pretty clearly. The virus forges random email addresses in the from: field, so what you see in from is not where the virus really came from. That seems to confuse a lot of people, and some have thought a virus came from the list when it did not. You have to look at the received: fields in the message header. If you ever do see something like that go through the list, let me know. The LD list does reject posts based on file size, which would stop most of these things if somehow they were directed to the list. The list also doesn't allow posting unless the sender is subscribed to the list. I see the list rejecting virus and spam mails this way all the time. I've long planned to reject attachments also, but haven't gotten around to it. thanks, kim >================ >Return-Path: >Delivered-To: billfox@fast.net >Received: (qmail 7564 invoked from network); 24 May 2002 03:09:46 -0000 >Received: from newmx1.fast.net ([209.92.1.31]) (envelope-sender <>) > by mailstore1.fast.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with QMQP > for <>; 24 May 2002 03:09:46 -0000 >Delivered-To: CLUSTERHOST newmx1.fast.net billfox@fast.net >Received: (qmail 1700 invoked from network); 24 May 2002 03:09:45 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) ([206.13.28.241]) >(envelope-sender ) > by newmx1.fast.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP > for ; 24 May 2002 03:09:45 -0000 >Received: from Thd ([63.199.6.112]) > by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) > with SMTP id <0GWL00GOII3YOE@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for billfox@fast.net; Thu, > 23 May 2002 20:09:45 -0700 (PDT) >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:09:34 -0700 (PDT) >Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net >From: douglas >Subject: Spice girls' vocal concert >To: billfox@fast.net >Message-id: <0GWL00GOKI3YOE@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> >MIME-version: 1.0 >Content-type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="Boundary_(ID_xRXPRqjApT1C9Qrepv+ALw)" >----- Original Message ----- >From: "douglas" >To: >Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:09 PM >Subject: Spice girls' vocal concert > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 16:33:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00767; Fri, 24 May 2002 16:31:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:31:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004101c20361$8001ae20$b5e35cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: Re: Soundscapes #2 - Advance Ticket Information Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:27:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A typo creeped into a phone number: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Fox" > Advance tickets will be $10 (no > discounts), and are available at these fine outlets: > Compact Disc Center 610-868-3070 is their correct number. Sorry for the hassle. Bill billfox@fast.net SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://www.tadream.net/soundscapes Wooden Shoe Music: http://woodenshoemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 17:48:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06751; Fri, 24 May 2002 17:47:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:47:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: Fw: Spice girls' vocal concert Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:46:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020524112745.07309650@loopers-delight.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Knowledgeable Ones-- I also received this and deleted it--what else should be done with suspicious emails? I have been receving my fair share, and am using Outlook 2000 with Norton Antivirus--if I don't open these emails, can I get infected? Gary -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@loopers-delight.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 12:17 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fw: Spice girls' vocal concert At 07:36 AM 5/24/2002, Bill Fox wrote: >Dear Kim, > >Do you have the capability to block all attachments from being >retransmitted to >list members? I feel it's a wise choice to do so if possible, for obvious >reasons. Bill, as far as I know these viruses are not going through the list. The message header you pasted below indicates that pretty clearly. The virus forges random email addresses in the from: field, so what you see in from is not where the virus really came from. That seems to confuse a lot of people, and some have thought a virus came from the list when it did not. You have to look at the received: fields in the message header. If you ever do see something like that go through the list, let me know. The LD list does reject posts based on file size, which would stop most of these things if somehow they were directed to the list. The list also doesn't allow posting unless the sender is subscribed to the list. I see the list rejecting virus and spam mails this way all the time. I've long planned to reject attachments also, but haven't gotten around to it. thanks, kim >================ >Return-Path: >Delivered-To: billfox@fast.net >Received: (qmail 7564 invoked from network); 24 May 2002 03:09:46 -0000 >Received: from newmx1.fast.net ([209.92.1.31]) (envelope-sender <>) > by mailstore1.fast.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with QMQP > for <>; 24 May 2002 03:09:46 -0000 >Delivered-To: CLUSTERHOST newmx1.fast.net billfox@fast.net >Received: (qmail 1700 invoked from network); 24 May 2002 03:09:45 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) ([206.13.28.241]) >(envelope-sender ) > by newmx1.fast.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP > for ; 24 May 2002 03:09:45 -0000 >Received: from Thd ([63.199.6.112]) > by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) > with SMTP id <0GWL00GOII3YOE@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for billfox@fast.net; Thu, > 23 May 2002 20:09:45 -0700 (PDT) >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:09:34 -0700 (PDT) >Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net >From: douglas >Subject: Spice girls' vocal concert >To: billfox@fast.net >Message-id: <0GWL00GOKI3YOE@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> >MIME-version: 1.0 >Content-type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="Boundary_(ID_xRXPRqjApT1C9Qrepv+ALw)" >----- Original Message ----- >From: "douglas" >To: >Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:09 PM >Subject: Spice girls' vocal concert > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 18:16:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09718; Fri, 24 May 2002 18:15:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 18:15:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:15:18 +0100 Subject: how to be your own booking agent? From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5ZjhlD.A.iXC.ntr78@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com has anyone got the book 'how to be your own booking agent'? Is it any good/worth the money? did it get you gigs? :o) I know that Rick Walker could WRITE the book, but since he hasn't got round to it yet, and his remarkable network of contacts is fuelled by over 20 years of great drumming and exceedingly positive vibes, I'm up for reading this book while I work on the vibes bit... :o) cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk www.pillowmountainrecords.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 19:12:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13497; Fri, 24 May 2002 19:10:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:10:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: Subject: RE: Fw: Spice girls' vocal concert Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:05:54 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c20377$8f236bd0$4a35230a@melon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com if you use the preview pane, and outlook is configured to display (and therefore run) html content, you may. otherwise, it's ok .... for now. :-( -----Original Message----- From: Gary Lehmann [mailto:healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 5:47 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Fw: Spice girls' vocal concert Hey Knowledgeable Ones-- I also received this and deleted it--what else should be done with suspicious emails? I have been receving my fair share, and am using Outlook 2000 with Norton Antivirus--if I don't open these emails, can I get infected? Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 19:31:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14822; Fri, 24 May 2002 19:31:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:31:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000301c2037a$f9a79c80$2f7187d9@robin2> From: "Rob Paulson" To: Subject: re: diy isobox (Fw: Speaking of revamping PCs... (Silence) - long-ish reply) Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:56:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com got this from another list i'm on, hope it helps... > Yeah there is a lot of information out there... water cooling, as someone > mentioned previously, is the ultimate for peace and quiet. If that's too > expensive for you or you just don't want to go there, I can share some > experiences with you, in order of what generally makes the most difference > in noise levels: > > Power Supply > -------------- > Two basic choices: > > Replace completely. The most popular choices are Q Technologies from > http://www.quietpc.com or Zalman available at http://www.chillblast.com. The > Enermax 'whisper quiet' PSUs are popular too but in my experience aren't > really that quiet - they are available in higher wattages (350W+) though for > dual rigs / power hungry systems. > > - OR - > > Swap the fan(s) in the PSU for something quieter. Never been tempted to do > this myself but it is possible. Most PSUs run either an 80mm or 92mm fan. > Make sure you know what you are doing before attempting as danger lurks > within a PSU ! > > > CPU Cooler > ------------- > Fan: > > Go for a heatsink that can take an 80mm fan. Why ? Bigger fan = can run at > lower rpm = lower noise with same air flow (usually) as more traditional > 60mm heatsink fans. Papst fans are acknowledged to be the best and I > personally run the 12db and 19db models in the systems i have built. Very > quiet. You can get these from http://www.overclockers.co.uk or > http://www.overclockingstore.co.uk . Panaflos are also recommended. > > Heatsink: > > The highest regarded manufacturers are Alpha and Swiftech, with Thermalright > also coming up with some good designs too now. Recommended Heatsinks: > > P3: Radial Fin cooler from QuietPC > P4: Alpha 8492, Swiftech MCX478 > Athlon XP: Alpha 8045, Swiftech MCX462 > > You can get most of these from Overclockers UK > > Beware - these heatsinks are performance-oriented, and as such are quite > often sold with very high rpm, high-noise fans. Buy without the fan and add > one of your choice - easy to fit, usually just screws on. > > The Zalman 'Flower Cooler' is touted as a great silent CPU cooler. it *is* > quiet, no doubt, but is nowhere near as effective as any of the Athlon/P4 > coolers mentioned above and also not as quiet if you run them with a < 20db > fan. > > > Hard Drive > ----------- > Two choices: > > Get a quiet hard drive. The quietest performance (7200rpm) ide drive is the > Seagate Barracuda ATA IV. The 40GB model is a little quieter than the higher > capacity ones. You can find these almost anywhere. > > - OR - > > Use a Silent Drive sleeve. I used a few of these with IBM 7200rpm drives, > and they definitely made a big difference. However, I then got a couple of > Seagate Barracudas when they came out and they were *as* quiet as the IBM > drive in the sleeve. You can get the sleeve from QuietPC. > > > Graphics Card > --------------- > Try and get one without a fan. If you are not into gaming on your PC that > isnt a problem as you can get the Matrox cards which are great for 2D and > fanless. > > Unfortunately, if you are into gaming - going fanless means ruling out the > most high performance models, but you can get a low-end GeForce 4 with > passive cooling which still has relatively decent 3d performance. Zalman do > a large heatsink that can supposedly replace a fan/heatsink on a graphics > card - from what I have seen it works sometimes but doesn't offer enough > cooling for the really high end Geforce 3 / Geforce 4 / Radeon 8500 models. > Zalman themselves recommend you use an additional fan/bracket if you are > replacing the fan on one of these cards. > > > Case > ----- > Try and get an aluminum case like a Coolermaster or Lian-Li. The case will > actually conduct some heat and help keep things cool, but it can also help > reduce noise as these have great build quality compared to a cheapo case > which can rattle and resonate more raising the overall noise level. Plus > they look cool :) You can but damping materials to line your case with but > these can raise the temps a lil bit so it's really suck it and see im > afraid. > > > Here are a few links that are good sources for some more info: > > http://www.silentpcreview.com/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Silent-PC/ > http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/intro.htm > http://forums.overclockers.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 19:55:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16124; Fri, 24 May 2002 19:54:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:54:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 20:02:34 -0400 Subject: request From: storm To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am looking for schematics for the delta labs effectron I & II adm 1024 one works and the other doesn't so I need to get it fixed any help will be appreciated thanx! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 20:57:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA19722; Fri, 24 May 2002 20:55:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 20:55:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 20:58:36 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: just john Subject: Re: request Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I am looking for schematics for the delta labs effectron I & II adm 1024 >one works and the other doesn't so I need to get it fixed > >any help will be appreciated > >thanx! Crikey! I have an Effectron II, and the documentation may have just what you need! And I may have the documentation, somewhere! Estimated time needed to locate it: Several days. But I'll give it a shot. --- * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 24 21:41:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22864; Fri, 24 May 2002 21:40:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 21:40:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 21:49:19 -0400 Subject: Re: request From: storm To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 5/24/2002 8:58 PM, just john at just-john@just-john.com wrote: >> I am looking for schematics for the delta labs effectron I & II adm 1024 >> one works and the other doesn't so I need to get it fixed >> >> any help will be appreciated >> >> thanx! > > Crikey! I have an Effectron II, and the documentation may have just what > you need! And I may have the documentation, somewhere! > > Estimated time needed to locate it: Several days. > > But I'll give it a shot. > --- > * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * > I thought it was CriMey! the one that is broken is the effectron I but anything will help send it whenever you can From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 11:58:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05836; Sat, 25 May 2002 11:57:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 11:57:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <02e401c20404$9d47bda0$c83c5cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: "GoldTri" , "ElectronicMusic" , "Analogue Heaven" , "Ambient Mailing List" , "beyond_em" , "AIMusic" , "analog group" , "Bill fox mailinglist" , "Steven Schneck" , "Greg Jones" , "Audrey Melick" , "Guy Stauffer" , "Harold DiGiacomo" , "John Kelly" , "Joseph Hendricks" , "Kevyn Solberg" , "Micah R. Sadigh" , "Philip B. Memmer" , "Randall F Smith" , "Terry Furber" , "Loopers Delight" , "oldsynth Mailing List" , "Adam Nestor" , "Karen Winkler" , "Sue Snyder" , "Dave Berger" , "Jim Dukelov" , "James Lacey, Jr." , "weirdsue" , "Vince LeGrand" , "Steven Curtin" , "Rich Marshall" , "Juli Moscovitz" , "Howard Moscovitz" , "Greg Waltzer" , "Duane Bowker" , "Dennis Haley" , "Dave Sneed" , "Bill Chadwick" , "Bernie Hoffman" , "Don Slepian" , "Roseanne Scepansky" , "Richard Mason" , , , "Miriam Lynn Nelson" , "Michael A. Jean" , "Michael" , "Larry Furman" , "karen davis" , "John R. Emerich" , "hendrixEXP" , "Donna Sherman" , "Delane Lipka" , "Carlo Ruggiero" , , "Art" , "Nicole" , "Alison Del Rey" , "Jeff Towne" , "Nancy Butz" , "Otto Bost" , "tadream mailing list" , , "The Ambient Way" , "vintagesynthrepair" Subject: Fw: Steve Roach + Vidna Obmana at the Gathering 26 May 2002 Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 11:55:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <6-BgED.A.7ZB.lQ778@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I hope you don't mind the cross post, but this is an important event that I think many of you will be interested in. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "c_vanzyl" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: [SPACEMUSIC] Steve Roach + Vidna Obmana at the Gathering 26 May 2002 > Steve Roach & Vidna Obmana are scheduled to perform together live at > the Gathering in Philadelphia on Sunday 26 May 2002 with shows at > 7:30pm & 9:30pm in the church sanctuary of St. Mary's Hamilton > Village, 3916 Locust Walk on the Penn campus in University City. > These performances are presented in association with ProjektFest, the > Projekt label 3-Day Memorial Day WeekEnd festival. > > The Gathering's ticket allotment at TicketWeb has sold out, but we > expect that there will still be tickets at the door. Those who > purchased the 3-day ProjektFest package have first priority for > admission; if there is room, walk-ups will be admitted. If (by some > chance) the 7:30pm concert is full, there is also a 9:30pm show. > > In either case it is important to arrive early as admission and > seating will be on a first-come first-served basis; once the concert > begun, seating will be at the discretion of the house manager. > > For details, pleaae access the website at: > http://www.thegatherings.org > > Thanks for your attention! See you at the Gathering this weekend! > > -chuckv From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 13:01:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11506; Sat, 25 May 2002 13:00:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 13:00:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020525095328.02a82ec0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 09:58:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Heasley Subject: Re: totally ot . . . In-Reply-To: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC50@mitorexch01.marit z.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_2516047==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_2516047==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Stig, The American Music Center (NYC) has a pretty extensive library of recordings, which members can borrow through the mail. www.amc.org. They'll even put together a work list for you, for instance, if you wanted new music with electric bass only, or bass w/ electronics, etc. Tom At 11:46 AM 5/23/02, you wrote: >sorry, but you all are a great resource. >does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used >20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music? >mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool. >i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except >they do that other stuff. >thanks, >stig Tom Heasley NEW CD AVAILABLE: On the Sensations of Tone, (www.innova.mu) ALSO AVAILABLE: Where the Earth Meets the Sky, (www.hypnos.com) http://bayimproviser.com/TomHeasley 427 Alma St., Suite 206 Palo Alto, CA 94301 P: 650.322.3633 F: 419.831.3809 E: tom@tomheasley.com WEBSITE COMING SOON: TOMHEASLEY.COM Upcoming Solo Concerts / Appearances: Sunday, June 9, 2002, 10:00 P.M. Radio Interview with Dean Suzuki KPFA - FM 94.1 Berkeley, CA www.kpfa.org Sunday, June 16, 2002 (Father's Day) 7:30 P.M. Solo Concert First Congregational Church of Berkeley 2345 Channing Way (at Dana) Tickets at door: $15.00 General / $10.00 Students, Seniors and Fathers Friday, June 21, 2002 The Now Festival Goat Hall, San Francisco Saturday, July 20, 2002 Solo Concert TUVA Space 3192 Adeline Berkeley, CA Info: 510.655.9755 Autumn 2002 Tour will include: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY (10/3) Kalvos and Damian's New Music Bazaar, VT (10/5) Roulette, NYC The BBC, London, England --=====================_2516047==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Stig,

The American Music Center (NYC) has a pretty extensive library of recordings, which members can borrow through the mail.  www.amc.org.  They'll even put together a work list for you, for instance, if you wanted new music with electric bass only, or bass w/ electronics, etc.

Tom

At 11:46 AM 5/23/02, you wrote:
sorry, but you all are a great resource.
does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music?
mailorder or web-based merchandising is cool.
i'm thinking of a place like downtown music gallery or wayside, except they do that other stuff.
thanks,
stig


Tom Heasley
NEW CD AVAILABLE:  On the Sensations of Tone,  (www.innova.mu)
ALSO AVAILABLE:  Where the Earth Meets the Sky,  (www.hypnos.com)

http://bayimproviser.com/TomHeasley
427 Alma St., Suite 206         
Palo Alto, CA  94301
P:  650.322.3633                
F:  419.831.3809
E:  tom@tomheasley.com
WEBSITE COMING SOON:  TOMHEASLEY.COM

Upcoming Solo Concerts / Appearances:

Sunday, June 9, 2002, 10:00 P.M.
Radio Interview with Dean Suzuki
KPFA - FM  94.1
Berkeley, CA
www.kpfa.org

Sunday, June 16, 2002  (Father's Day) 7:30 P.M.
Solo Concert
First Congregational Church of Berkeley
2345 Channing Way (at Dana)
Tickets at door:  $15.00 General / $10.00 Students, Seniors and Fathers

Friday, June 21, 2002
The Now Festival
Goat Hall, San Francisco

Saturday, July 20, 2002
Solo Concert
TUVA Space
3192 Adeline
Berkeley, CA
Info:  510.655.9755


Autumn 2002 Tour will include:

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY (10/3)
Kalvos and Damian's New Music Bazaar, VT (10/5)
Roulette, NYC
The BBC, London, England --=====================_2516047==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 13:02:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11629; Sat, 25 May 2002 13:01:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 13:01:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020525095944.02a84070@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 10:00:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Heasley Subject: Re: totally ot . . . In-Reply-To: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC50@mitorexch01.marit z.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_2631047==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_2631047==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Oh yeah, scores available from them - AMC - also. --=====================_2631047==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Oh yeah, scores available from them - AMC - also.

--=====================_2631047==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 13:59:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14270; Sat, 25 May 2002 13:58:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 13:58:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020525100848.02a85260@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 10:57:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Heasley Subject: Re: Lex MPX-1 In-Reply-To: <20020522211742.11060.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020522122136.03711060@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_6044627==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_6044627==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:17 PM 5/22/02, you wrote: > > I use it mostly for pitch programs in tandem with a D-TWO and a DL4. > > I like it. >Tom, >If the MPX-1 does everything it claims, why would you also need the >D-Two (and/or DL4)? More (varied) delays at the same time? Hey, Greg, Wow, usually people remark on how few pieces of gear I have - maybe I don't "need" anything else! But I sure thought I missed my DL4 when it was down for almost two months - those concerts weren't nearly as much fun to play! (or listen to, I imagine)...I'm sure there are untapped (by me, so far) resources in the Lexicon - such as (I think) having two very different/separate effects coming from either channel; however, in the case of pitch and delay programs, they both tend to eat up enough memory to make it impossible to combine some of the kinds of things that I would want to. There was a time that the MPX1 was the only thing I had or used - that was all I "needed" for awhile. Long reverbs pretty much sufficed in some of my early forays into live tuba processing and composing. In the studio recording the first album, I had longer loops running on the EDP, while the DL4 was running it's shorter ones - maybe not "needed", but the engineer's idea, and it seemed to work nicely. By the way, perhaps worth mentioning - each time I've had my rig at Robert Rich's studio, he has detected "hash" or grit in the signal chain, which he has always said was coming from the MPX1. It isn't an issue with live playing, but something to be aware of. You do know that it is the G2, not the MPX1, that has a JamMan program, right? - not sure what you think the MPX1 claims to be able to do that would obviate the need for a DL4, EDP or other looper, with which to do live multi-tracking. I'd love nothing better than to only have to haul around one piece of processing gear. Hopefully some day in the not too distant future, I can accomplish this with a laptop... Best, Tom --=====================_6044627==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 02:17 PM 5/22/02, you wrote:

> I use it mostly for pitch programs in tandem with a D-TWO and a DL4.
> I like it.
Tom,
If the MPX-1 does everything it claims, why would you also need the
D-Two (and/or DL4)? More (varied) delays at the same time?

Hey, Greg,

Wow, usually people remark on how few pieces of gear I have - maybe I don't "need" anything else!  But I sure thought I missed my DL4 when it was down for almost two months - those concerts weren't nearly as much fun to play! (or listen to, I imagine)...I'm sure there are untapped (by me, so far) resources in the Lexicon - such as (I think) having two very different/separate effects coming from either channel; however, in the case of pitch and delay programs, they both tend to eat up enough memory to make it impossible to combine some of the kinds of things that I would want to.  There was a time that the MPX1 was the only thing I had or used - that was all I "needed" for awhile.  Long reverbs pretty much sufficed in some of my early forays into live tuba processing and composing.  In the studio recording the first album, I had longer loops running on the EDP, while the DL4 was running it's shorter ones - maybe not "needed", but the engineer's idea, and it seemed to work nicely. 

By the way, perhaps worth mentioning - each time I've had my rig at Robert Rich's studio, he has detected "hash" or grit in the signal chain, which he has always said was coming from the MPX1.  It isn't an issue with live playing, but something to be aware of.

You do know that it is the G2, not the MPX1, that has a JamMan program, right? - not sure what you think the MPX1 claims to be able to do that would obviate the need for a DL4, EDP or other looper, with which to do live multi-tracking.  I'd love nothing better than to only have to haul around one piece of processing gear.  Hopefully some day in the not too distant future, I can accomplish this with a laptop...

Best,

Tom 
--=====================_6044627==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 14:29:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16835; Sat, 25 May 2002 14:28:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:28:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 11:27:49 -0700 Subject: MPX-1 $425 BLOWOUT! (Re: Lex MPX-1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1053086525 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020525100848.02a85260@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> Message-Id: <1E617DA3-700D-11D6-B92A-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: <7CBSx.A.xGE.qe978@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --Apple-Mail-1--1053086525 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hey boys and girls, while I coveted the MPX-1 (it had pretty much the exact feature set I=20 was looking for, mod, verb and filter effects, with midi clock synchable=20= bionic action all in a single rack space) I realized I couldn't afford=20= it, and decided to get the MPX-500, because of a recommendation from=20 Rick Walker. Well, I got it, and it is a great little processor, though=20= I still wished for the expanded feature set of the MPX-1. SO, while I was at the Concord Guitar Center (SF E. Bay Area) buying=20 midi cables for the MPX500, I saw that they were selling a demo of the=20= MPX-1 for $425! Only $24 more than I paid for the MPX500! So I picked=20= it up. There's another (they had two demo models for some reason) for=20= someone who wants one, but has been waiting. They usually do not sell=20= the demos, but I was told that the MPX-1 is no more, and that is the=20 reason for the blow out price. I bet if you went to any local dealer=20 with this knowledge, you could probably negotiate a similar price. good luck, Mark Sottilaro On Saturday, May 25, 2002, at 10:57 AM, Tom Heasley wrote: > At 02:17 PM 5/22/02, you wrote: > > > I use it mostly for pitch programs in tandem with a D-TWO and a DL4. > > I like it. > Tom, > If the MPX-1 does everything it claims, why would you also need the > D-Two (and/or DL4)? More (varied) delays at the same time? > > > Hey, Greg, > > Wow, usually people remark on how few pieces of gear I have - maybe I=20= > don't "need" anything else!=A0 But I sure thought I missed my DL4 when = it=20 > was down for almost two months - those concerts weren't nearly as much=20= > fun to play! (or listen to, I imagine)...I'm sure there are untapped=20= > (by me, so far) resources in the Lexicon - such as (I think) having = two=20 > very different/separate effects coming from either channel; however, = in=20 > the case of pitch and delay programs, they both tend to eat up enough=20= > memory to make it impossible to combine some of the kinds of things=20 > that I would want to.=A0 There was a time that the MPX1 was the only=20= > thing I had or used - that was all I "needed" for awhile.=A0 Long = reverbs=20 > pretty much sufficed in some of my early forays into live tuba=20 > processing and composing.=A0 In the studio recording the first album, = I=20 > had longer loops running on the EDP, while the DL4 was running it's=20 > shorter ones - maybe not "needed", but the engineer's idea, and it=20 > seemed to work nicely.=A0 > > By the way, perhaps worth mentioning - each time I've had my rig at=20 > Robert Rich's studio, he has detected "hash" or grit in the signal=20 > chain, which he has always said was coming from the MPX1.=A0 It isn't = an=20 > issue with live playing, but something to be aware of. > > You do know that it is the G2, not the MPX1, that has a JamMan = program,=20 > right? - not sure what you think the MPX1 claims to be able to do that=20= > would obviate the need for a DL4, EDP or other looper, with which to = do=20 > live multi-tracking.=A0 I'd love nothing better than to only have to = haul=20 > around one piece of processing gear.=A0 Hopefully some day in the not = too=20 > distant future, I can accomplish this with a laptop... > > Best, > > Tom=A0 --Apple-Mail-1--1053086525 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey boys and girls, while I coveted the MPX-1 (it had pretty much the exact feature set I was looking for, mod, verb and filter effects, with midi clock synchable bionic action all in a single rack space) I realized I couldn't afford it, and decided to get the MPX-500, because of a recommendation from Rick Walker. Well, I got it, and it is a great little processor, though I still wished for the expanded feature set of the MPX-1. SO, while I was at the Concord Guitar Center (SF E. Bay Area) buying midi cables for the MPX500, I saw that they were selling a demo of the MPX-1 for $425! Only $24 more than I paid for the MPX500! So I picked it up. There's another (they had two demo models for some reason) for someone who wants one, but has been waiting. They usually do not sell the demos, but I was told that the MPX-1 is no more, and that is the reason for the blow out price. I bet if you went to any local dealer with this knowledge, you could probably negotiate a similar price. good luck, Mark Sottilaro On Saturday, May 25, 2002, at 10:57 AM, Tom Heasley wrote: At 02:17 PM 5/22/02, you wrote: > I use it mostly for pitch programs in tandem with a D-TWO and a DL4. > I like it. Tom, If the MPX-1 does everything it claims, why would you also need the D-Two (and/or DL4)? More (varied) delays at the same time? Hey, Greg, Wow, usually people remark on how few pieces of gear I have - maybe I don't "need" anything else!=A0 But I sure thought I missed my DL4 when it was down for almost two months - those concerts weren't nearly as much fun to play! (or listen to, I imagine)...I'm sure there are untapped (by me, so far) resources in the Lexicon - such as (I think) having two very different/separate effects coming from either channel; however, in the case of pitch and delay programs, they both tend to eat up enough memory to make it impossible to combine some of the kinds of things that I would want to.=A0 There was a time that the MPX1 was the only thing I had or used - that was all I "needed" for awhile.=A0 Long reverbs pretty much sufficed in some of my early forays into live tuba processing and composing.=A0 In the studio recording the first album, I had longer loops running on the EDP, while the DL4 was running it's shorter ones - maybe not "needed", but the engineer's idea, and it seemed to work nicely.=A0 By the way, perhaps worth mentioning - each time I've had my rig at Robert Rich's studio, he has detected "hash" or grit in the signal chain, which he has always said was coming from the MPX1.=A0 It isn't an issue with live playing, but something to be aware of. You do know that it is the G2, not the MPX1, that has a JamMan program, right? - not sure what you think the MPX1 claims to be able to do that would obviate the need for a DL4, EDP or other looper, with which to do live multi-tracking.=A0 I'd love nothing better than to only have to haul around one piece of processing gear.=A0 Hopefully some day in the not too distant future, I can accomplish this with a laptop... Best, Tom=A0 = --Apple-Mail-1--1053086525-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 15:17:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20285; Sat, 25 May 2002 15:17:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 15:17:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 15:21:21 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: just john Subject: Re: request Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >on 5/24/2002 8:58 PM, just john at just-john@just-john.com wrote: > >>> I am looking for schematics for the delta labs effectron I & II adm 1024 >>> one works and the other doesn't so I need to get it fixed >>> >>> any help will be appreciated >>> >>> thanx! >> >> Crikey! I have an Effectron II, and the documentation may have just what >> you need! And I may have the documentation, somewhere! >> >> Estimated time needed to locate it: Several days. >> >> But I'll give it a shot. >> --- >> * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * >> >I thought it was CriMey! That's the river, as in: Crimey, a river ... >the one that is broken is the effectron I but anything will help >send it whenever you can I'm completely flabbergasted that I found the Effectron II documentation! It was in the same storage bin as the documentation for my Casio KX-101 and other bits ot 80s memorabilia. Anyway, what I have is the "Owner's Manual ADM 256/ADM 1024." It doesn't have any genuine schematics in it. The closest it comes is what they call a Block Diagram, which looks like somebody used an electronics template -- y'know, squiggly lines with a branch line to indicate a potentiometer's function, boxes for LFOs and VCOs -- to describe the signal flow. The difference between this graphic and what I'd call a schematic is that it doesn't have part numbers or specifications. For instance, the potentiometer functions it mentions don't mention ohms. No voltages are mentioned anywhere. It's a weird document, and I'm guessing it's not what you need, 'cuz anybody used to using the box already knows the processing flow. Here's the sort of document I suspect you want: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/deltalabs/echotron.jpg (for a different device) What I have is so high-level that the digital/audio conversion is represented as a small box with "D/A" in it. So, d'ya think it's worth my time to (finally) unpack my scanner and set it up and scan it? --- * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 17:01:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26452; Sat, 25 May 2002 17:00:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 17:00:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 16:59:48 -0400 Subject: Loopers in Charleston (Steve Reich premier) From: todd reynolds To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'll be in Charleston next week with Steve Reich... We're premiering his three tales... Just got the charts and midi stuff in the mail, and it sounds SMOKIN'! any loopers in the area please be in touch... Best, Todd Reynolds From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 17:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28018; Sat, 25 May 2002 17:08:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 17:08:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JIMFOWLER@prodigy.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 17:07:44 -0500 Subject: Re: Loopers in Charleston (Steve Reich premier) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com no chance steve reich will be performing in hattiesburg, ms huh? anywhere closer to mississippi (new orleans, atlanta, memphis, etc.)? -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 17:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28019; Sat, 25 May 2002 17:08:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 17:08:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Om_Audio" To: Subject: Gig post info request Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:07:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000201c20430$3c007740$6401a8c0@we.client2.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This has been mentioned before but... Please all list members- place the dates, times, places, etc for your gig posts in the beginning and with complete info- it seems quite a few hide the city or state etc- Thanks- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 17:55:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29619; Sat, 25 May 2002 17:48:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 17:48:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: zvonar@pop.pan.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC50@mitorexch01.maritz.com> References: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC50@mitorexch01.maritz.com> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:40:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: totally ot . . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 2:46 PM -0400 5/23/02, Liebig, Steuart A. wrote: >does anybody out there know of any good places to find hard-to-get >or used 20t/21st-century ("contemporary") "classical" music? http://www.cdemusic.org/ http://www.oodiscs.com/ http://www.experimentalintermedia.org/xi/ http://www.electrocd.com/cat.list.e/label.imed.cat.html http://www.deeplistening.org/dlc/ http://www.mode.com/ http://www.newalbion.com/ http://www.innovarecordings.com/ http://www.centaurrecords.com/default.asp http://www.composersrecordings.com/enter.html -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2203 fax http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 25 19:44:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04588; Sat, 25 May 2002 19:43:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:43:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JIMFOWLER@prodigy.net To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:42:54 -0500 Subject: OT: speaker frequency response - technical stuff Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com this is a basic issue but one to which i never found an answer so here goes: could somebody please discuss frequency response regarding speakers? for example, low E on a bass is about 41Hz right? so the fundamental will be that same measurement, right? why or how is it that i see plenty of bass cabs rated 50Hz- XkHz? doesn't speaker X need to be rated at least as low as the fundamental of the lowest note produced on instrument Y? just some clarification, if you would... thanks. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 00:37:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA21237; Sun, 26 May 2002 00:35:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 00:35:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020526043528.18493.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 21:35:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Richards Subject: Re:American Music Center To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200205251829.OAA16907@hemlock.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com <> Uh, the link in the above message directed me to the AMC Cancer Research Center. You want to check to make sure you posted the correct link? ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris "What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?"-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 00:41:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA21757; Sun, 26 May 2002 00:41:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 00:41:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020526044046.82291.qmail@web13107.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 21:40:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Worsham Subject: FA: Doepfer Pocket Control MIDI surface 16 knobs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=876495708 Doepfer Pocket Control A compact & highly flexible desktop MIDI controller. 16 control knobs with medium, smooth feel. 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Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 00:51:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA22451; Sun, 26 May 2002 00:50:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 00:50:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <011401c20470$d15a4ec0$caf15cd1@LocalHost> From: "Bill Fox" To: References: Subject: Re: speaker frequency response - technical stuff Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 00:50:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: > why > or how is it that i see plenty of bass cabs rated 50Hz- > XkHz? doesn't speaker X need to be rated at least as > low as the fundamental of the lowest note produced on > instrument Y? Frequency response is often specified from the half power points; -3dB down at the low and high ends of the audio spectrum. Unless otherwise specified. (CD players might specify 20-20kHz +/- 0.1Hz for example.) A response that is down by 3dB at 50 Hz means that at 41 Hz the response has dropped off a little more, but it's still there. There will be a response at 20Hz, too. But if the response is falling at 6dB per octave (10dB per decade), that means the response is half that of 40Hz, given equal levels at the input. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 00:56:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA22992; Sun, 26 May 2002 00:55:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 00:55:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020526045518.87092.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 21:55:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Richards Subject: Boomerang To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200205251829.OAA16907@hemlock.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <2eYPaB.A.GnF.3qG88@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, today I got my Boomerang in the mail. I won it on E-bay, with the shipping and gig bag, the whole package cost me $399! As far as looping concerned, this thing totally buries my DL-4. Obviously, the loop time is longer, and in what I've done with it so far, I've yet to have the loop end before I was done putting my initial idea that I want to start with. Also, when you go into reverse mode, there's no glitch, like on the DL-4, ah the luxury of not having the direction button share it's function with something else. :-) I'm still using the DL-4 for delay effects, though. I feel the DL-4's tape and analog delay models are way better than the delay that's available in the loop/sampler mode, which is another bonus of having a seperate looping device. I'm still working with it, I haven't played around with the alternate sampling rates or anythign like that, I've just used it as it is straight out of the box. I had to play with the level controls a bit to get a good sounding signal, but that's about it. Until I get the cash together to get more loopers, the Boomerang's gonna be my main looping device. I may continue to use the DL-4 for running two loops simutaneously, but in my initial experiments, the way I have everything set up (I have everything running in one signal path straight into my amp), it seems difficult to keep the live guitar plus two loops balanced so nothing's overwhelming anything else. Once I get a a mixer and a cuople more loopers, I think that kind of thing will be a little easier to do properly. For now, though, I'm quite happy with the Boomerang. ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris "What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?"-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 01:14:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25115; Sun, 26 May 2002 01:14:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 01:14:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Paul Weissman" To: Subject: RE: speaker frequency response - technical stuff Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 22:15:25 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <011401c20470$d15a4ec0$caf15cd1@LocalHost> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com another thing to keep in mind, although i'm not sure how much this comes into play here, are psycho acoustic effects based on harmonics. as may be already more than apparent to you, when you play a low E on a bass you not only have energy at your fundamental frequency, 41hz, but tons of different energy levels at multiples of the fundamental frequency that are based on the modes of the plucked bass string. these will be at integer multiples of the fundamental... 41, 82, 123, 164, 205, etc. the distribution and attack/decay behavior of the energy at each of these harmonic frequencies is what gives the bass it's signature tone. pardon me if i'm boring you. so what happens if you completely remove energy from the first fundamental? (so instead of the series starting off with 41, the sequences begins 82, 123, 164, 205, ...) well, even if there is no energy present at the first fundamental, your brain does a sort of interpolation of the frequencies that are present and gives you a sense that you're hearing the missing fundamental, allowing you to perceive the starting point of the complete harmonic series. you can try it with any synth that has a few sine oscillators... it's neat. and then there's also the fact that speakers have response below what they are 'rated', just not as accurate a response. hope that made sense... paul > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Fox [mailto:billfox@fast.net] > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 9:50 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: speaker frequency response - technical stuff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > why > > or how is it that i see plenty of bass cabs rated 50Hz- > > XkHz? doesn't speaker X need to be rated at least as > > low as the fundamental of the lowest note produced on > > instrument Y? > > Frequency response is often specified from the half power points; > -3dB down at > the low and high ends of the audio spectrum. Unless otherwise > specified. (CD > players might specify 20-20kHz +/- 0.1Hz for example.) A > response that is down > by 3dB at 50 Hz means that at 41 Hz the response has dropped off > a little more, > but it's still there. There will be a response at 20Hz, too. But if the > response is falling at 6dB per octave (10dB per decade), that > means the response > is half that of 40Hz, given equal levels at the input. > > Cheers, > > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 01:26:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25832; Sun, 26 May 2002 01:26:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 01:26:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 22:19:19 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re:American Music Center In-reply-to: <20020526043528.18493.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <20020526043528.18493.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 9:35 PM -0700 5/25/02, Chris Richards wrote: >Uh, the link in the above message directed me to the AMC Cancer >Research Center. You want to check to make sure you posted the >correct link? As my 11th grade English teacher used to say, "Honestly, people!" It's http://www.amc.net -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 04:37:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07515; Sun, 26 May 2002 04:36:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 04:36:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020526012424.00b1eeb8@pop.charter.net> X-Sender: hlindauer@pop.charter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 01:35:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Hans Lindauer Subject: Ultimate MIDI Controller ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I stumbled upon this today, and thought it might be of interest: http://www.infusionsystems.com/ -Hans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 09:53:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24505; Sun, 26 May 2002 09:53:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 09:53:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002101c204bc$e26dbac0$1702a8c0@WorkGroup> Reply-To: "Scott McGregor Moore" From: "Scott McGregor Moore" To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020526012424.00b1eeb8@pop.charter.net> Subject: The Ambient Ping presents Random Act Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 09:54:41 -0400 Organization: dreamSTATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com THE AMBiENT PiNG http://www.theambientping.com Every Tuesday Night - doors open at 9pm - 1st set at 9:30 @ club nia / C'est What - 19 Church St. at Front St. - Toronto 3 blocks east of the Union Station subway. map - http://www.cestwhat.com/map.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 12:11:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01987; Sun, 26 May 2002 12:09:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:09:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: ENAT21213@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:08:16 EDT Subject: Re: Loopers in Charleston (Steve Reich premier) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a3.28d8167e.2a226270_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10500 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_a3.28d8167e.2a226270_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/25/02 4:59:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, toddreynolds@rcn.com writes: > I'll be in Charleston next week with Steve Reich... We're premiering his > three tales... Just got the charts and midi stuff in the mail, and it > sounds > SMOKIN'! any loopers in the area please be in touch... > > Best, > > Todd Reynolds > > charleston s.c????????????? if so i'm in myrtle beach.....an hour and a half away. brian electric bird noise something about vampires and sluts http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/382/something_about_vampires_a.html --part1_a3.28d8167e.2a226270_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/25/02 4:59:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, toddreynolds@rcn.com writes:


I'll be in Charleston next week with Steve Reich... We're premiering his
three tales... Just got the charts and midi stuff in the mail, and it sounds
SMOKIN'!   any loopers in the area please be in touch...

Best,

Todd Reynolds



charleston s.c?????????????
if so i'm in myrtle beach.....an hour and a half away.
brian
electric bird noise
something about vampires and sluts
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/382/something_about_vampires_a.html --part1_a3.28d8167e.2a226270_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 13:25:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06265; Sun, 26 May 2002 13:23:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 13:23:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 10:13:44 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Ultimate MIDI Controller ? In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020526012424.00b1eeb8@pop.charter.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020526012424.00b1eeb8@pop.charter.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 1:35 AM -0700 5/26/02, Hans Lindauer wrote: >I stumbled upon this today, and thought it might be of interest: >http://www.infusionsystems.com/ See also: STEIM Sensorlab http://www.steim.nl/sensor.html IRCAM AToMIC Pro http://www.ircam.fr/produits/technologies/atomic/Atomic-e.html A comprehensive set of controller links is at: http://www.notam02.no/icma/interactivesystems/interface_links.html -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 14:38:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10758; Sun, 26 May 2002 14:37:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 14:37:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-envelope-info: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mlandman@pop.sonic.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020526012424.00b1eeb8@pop.charter.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020526012424.00b1eeb8@pop.charter.net> Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 11:41:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Landman Subject: Re: Ultimate MIDI Controller ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I stumbled upon this today, and thought it might be of interest: >http://www.infusionsystems.com/ > >-Hans Speaking of interesting controllers, has anyone seen or worked with this one yet? http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/surfaceone.php It reminds me more than a little of a Don Buchla design, and this is a good thing... Best- Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 15:48:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14696; Sun, 26 May 2002 15:47:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 15:47:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:46:48 -0700 From: Greg Kucharo Subject: Re: Ultimate MIDI Controller ? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.5.1 (Blindsider) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mark how dare you post this before me! I was just going to inquire about this device when you did. From the looks of the Midiman website, this should be shipping already but i'll be damned if anyone is actually carrying it. It does remind me of the old Buchla Thunder, which piqued my interest in it. I'd love to get one when or if they come out. -Greg on 5/26/02 Mark Landman wrote: >>I stumbled upon this today, and thought it might be of interest: >>http://www.infusionsystems.com/ >> >>-Hans > >Speaking of interesting controllers, has anyone seen or worked with >this one yet? > >http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/surfaceone.php > > >It reminds me more than a little of a Don Buchla design, and this is >a good thing... > >Best- > >Mark > ------------------------------------------ Greg Kucharo- www.mutantaudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 16:39:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18142; Sun, 26 May 2002 16:38:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 16:38:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006101c204f5$31de8340$e2981cd5@hyeena> From: "Jukka Andersson" To: References: Subject: DIY midicontroller Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 23:37:44 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What is best choice for temporary DIY midicontroller project? I have no money right now and no knowledge enought what I need for my "real" midicontroller. I have been thinking about getting Doepfer pocketdial or similar but since for example my Korg 01/W I need just basic controller with some knobs or faders. Perhaps 4-6 is just enought. Something easy to build and easy to get parts. .jukka andersson rihmasto. www.rihmasto.n3.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 26 21:44:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05053; Sun, 26 May 2002 21:43:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 21:43:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgrob@pop.ssa.terra.com.br Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 22:42:51 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Giba is giving workshops in NY! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://matthias.grob.org/Giba.htm -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 27 02:59:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23928; Mon, 27 May 2002 02:58:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 02:58:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020527065728.59545.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 23:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradley Fish Subject: Live Multitrack Laptop Looping Suggestions?! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-882892905-1022482648=:59395" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --0-882892905-1022482648=:59395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, I love my EDP, but find myself wishing that each overdub could be on a seperate track for mixing down later, and even tweaking the mix on the spot. Any suggestions for software/(and hardware?) that would behave like an EDP but put everything on a seperate track? Thanks! Bradley Fish --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup --0-882892905-1022482648=:59395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 Hi all,

I love my EDP, but find myself wishing that each overdub could be on a seperate track for mixing down later, and even tweaking the mix on the spot.

Any suggestions for software/(and hardware?) that would behave like an EDP but put everything on a seperate track?

Thanks!

Bradley Fish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup --0-882892905-1022482648=:59395-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 27 10:30:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19106; Mon, 27 May 2002 10:29:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 10:29:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "M. Steven Ginn" To: Subject: RE: Live Multitrack Laptop Looping Suggestions?! Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:29:25 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c2058a$e6eb4800$420e88cf@stevespc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C20560.FE154000" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-reply-to: <20020527065728.59545.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C20560.FE154000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Get a Repeater, then you can program everything so you can turn on the Repeater when you want to transfer an EDP loop to one of Repeaters tracks, which can then be saved to the CFC card for later use. Steve I love my EDP, but find myself wishing that each overdub could be on a seperate track for mixing down later, and even tweaking the mix on the spot. Any suggestions for software/(and hardware?) that would behave like an EDP but put everything on a seperate track? Thanks! Bradley Fish _____ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C20560.FE154000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Get a=20 Repeater, then you can program everything so you can turn on the = Repeater when=20 you want to transfer an EDP loop to one of Repeaters tracks, which can = then be=20 saved to the CFC card for later use.
 
Steve 

I love my EDP, but find myself wishing that each overdub could = be on a=20 seperate track for mixing down later, and even tweaking the mix on the = spot.=20

Any suggestions for software/(and hardware?) that would behave like = an EDP=20 but put everything on a seperate track?=20

Thanks!=20

Bradley Fish=20

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Yahoo= ! -=20 Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C20560.FE154000-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 27 11:14:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22221; Mon, 27 May 2002 11:13:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 11:13:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001301c20590$b53564c0$0fe1e20c@attbi.com> From: "Butch" To: References: <001101c2058a$e6eb4800$420e88cf@stevespc> Subject: OT: Zoom MRS1044CD Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 11:10:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2056F.2DCFD860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2056F.2DCFD860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageNot to wax messianic, but I just took receipt of a Zoom MRS1044CD = 10 track digital recorder. This thing is awesome for the price. It only = has two inputs so it's only appropriate for one-man-band home studio use = mostly but I was really impressed with the end product. This unit has a = really elegant interface notwithstanding the comparatively small LCD. = It's about the easist unit I've used in this price range (e.g. Tascam = 788, Roland VS840ex). The recording procedure is very simple. The = Mastering procedure and burn CD procedure is simple as well. It allows = one to place more emphasis on playing rather than messing with technical = issues. If anyone's in the market for this type of unit, check it out. Regards, Butch ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2056F.2DCFD860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Not to wax messianic, but I just took = receipt of a=20 Zoom MRS1044CD 10 track digital recorder. This thing is awesome for the = price.=20 It only has two inputs so it's only appropriate for one-man-band home = studio use=20 mostly but I was really impressed with the end product. This unit has a = really=20 elegant interface notwithstanding the comparatively small LCD. It's = about the=20 easist unit I've used in this price range (e.g. Tascam 788, Roland = VS840ex). The=20 recording procedure is very simple. The Mastering procedure and burn CD=20 procedure is simple as well. It allows one to place more emphasis on = playing=20 rather than messing with technical issues. If anyone's in the market for = this=20 type of unit, check it out.
 
Regards, = Butch
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2056F.2DCFD860-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 27 13:46:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00524; Mon, 27 May 2002 13:44:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 13:44:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF270E0.FCA1A725@friendlyspider.com> Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 12:46:09 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Multitrack Laptop Looping Suggestions?! References: <20020527065728.59545.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You need to check out Ableton's Live....for Mac or PC..... http://www.ableton.com/ I was going to pick up the Repeater...my current looping tool is a JamMan..... but I opted for software and the Roland BR532 portable digital 4 track. I wanted something that was deadly quiet- no hard drive noise, could run on batteries, and that I could transfer tracks digitally into Live and Performer. Plus it has 32 tracks if you count the 8 virtual per 4 tracks. Now I'm still looking for an inexpensive compact mixer for a couple of Audix condensers (SCX25) that require 48v phantom. I've got a couple of Stewart phantom boxes that take care of the juice.... and I actually get a clean signal using transformers in front of a Radio Shack hi z 4 input cheapo mic mixer. But I'd like to do a bit better and still keep my tight-wad reputation. Any body got a suggestion? -- gary @friendlyspider.com Bradley Fish wrote: > Hi all, > > I love my EDP, but find myself wishing that each overdub could be on a > seperate track for mixing down later, and even tweaking the mix on the > spot. > > Any suggestions for software/(and hardware?) that would behave like an > EDP but put everything on a seperate track? > > Thanks! > > Bradley Fish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 27 13:57:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01397; Mon, 27 May 2002 13:57:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 13:57:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 10:56:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Live Multitrack Laptop Looping Suggestions?! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--882173995 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001101c2058a$e6eb4800$420e88cf@stevespc> Message-Id: <0E2FFD29-719B-11D6-818A-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --Apple-Mail-1--882173995 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I agree, this is probably the only way to go. I'm still pretty sure=20 that no software/computer setup can do looping in real time, without=20 additional hardware. On that note, has anyone checked out the new box from Digitech? The=20 floor pedal with the multitrack "JamMan" simulation built in? GNX3 I=20 think it achieves this by having a small on board direct to disk=20 multitrack recorder. It might be what you're looking for. Mark On Monday, May 27, 2002, at 07:29 AM, M. Steven Ginn wrote: > > Get a Repeater, then you can program everything so you can turn on the=20= > Repeater when you want to transfer an EDP loop to one of Repeaters=20 > tracks, which can then be saved to the CFC card for later use. > =A0 > Steve=A0 > > I love my EDP, but find myself wishing that each=A0overdub could be on = a=20 > seperate track for mixing down later, and even tweaking the mix on the=20= > spot. > > Any suggestions for software/(and hardware?) that would behave like an=20= > EDP but put everything on a seperate track? > > Thanks! > > Bradley Fish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =A0 > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > --Apple-Mail-1--882173995 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I agree, this is probably the only way to go. I'm still pretty sure that no software/computer setup can do looping in real time, without additional hardware. On that note, has anyone checked out the new box from Digitech? The floor pedal with the multitrack "JamMan" simulation built in? GNX3 I think it achieves this by having a small on board direct to disk multitrack recorder. It might be what you're looking for. Mark=20 On Monday, May 27, 2002, at 07:29 AM, M. Steven Ginn wrote: = Arial0000,0000,FFFFGet a Repeater, then you can program everything so you can turn on the Repeater when you want to transfer an EDP loop to one of Repeaters tracks, which can then be saved to the CFC card for later = use. =A0 = Arial0000,0000,FFFFSteve=A0 I love my EDP, but find myself wishing that each=A0overdub could be on a seperate track for mixing down later, and even tweaking the mix on the spot. Any suggestions for software/(and hardware?) that would behave like an EDP but put everything on a seperate track? Thanks! Bradley Fish =A0 =20 Do You Yahoo!? = 1999,1999,FFFFYahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup = --Apple-Mail-1--882173995-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 27 14:07:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03138; Mon, 27 May 2002 14:06:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 14:06:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 14:15:10 -0400 Subject: Re: request From: storm To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 5/25/2002 3:21 PM, just john at just-john@just-john.com wrote: >> on 5/24/2002 8:58 PM, just john at just-john@just-john.com wrote: >> >>>> I am looking for schematics for the delta labs effectron I & II adm 1024 >>>> one works and the other doesn't so I need to get it fixed >>>> >>>> any help will be appreciated >>>> >>>> thanx! >>> >>> Crikey! I have an Effectron II, and the documentation may have just what >>> you need! And I may have the documentation, somewhere! >>> >>> Estimated time needed to locate it: Several days. >>> >>> But I'll give it a shot. >>> --- >>> * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * >>> >> I thought it was CriMey! > > > That's the river, as in: Crimey, a river ... > > > >> the one that is broken is the effectron I but anything will help >> send it whenever you can > > I'm completely flabbergasted that I found the Effectron II documentation! > It was in the same storage bin as the documentation for my Casio KX-101 and > other bits ot 80s memorabilia. > > Anyway, what I have is the "Owner's Manual ADM 256/ADM 1024." It doesn't > have any genuine schematics in it. The closest it comes is what they call > a Block Diagram, which looks like somebody used an electronics template -- > y'know, squiggly lines with a branch line to indicate a potentiometer's > function, boxes for LFOs and VCOs -- to describe the signal flow. > > The difference between this graphic and what I'd call a schematic is that > it doesn't have part numbers or specifications. For instance, the > potentiometer functions it mentions don't mention ohms. No voltages are > mentioned anywhere. > > It's a weird document, and I'm guessing it's not what you need, 'cuz > anybody used to using the box already knows the processing flow. > > Here's the sort of document I suspect you want: > http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/deltalabs/echotron.jpg (for a > different device) What I have is so high-level that the digital/audio > conversion is represented as a small box with "D/A" in it. > > So, d'ya think it's worth my time to (finally) unpack my scanner and set it > up and scan it? > > --- > * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * > it's cool....cuz I think my tech would need the specs anyway to get parts ....but if you find anything let me know!! thanx! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 27 14:28:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04589; Mon, 27 May 2002 14:28:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 14:28:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c20579$4bb8d020$6687abd4@giow2000> From: "luca" To: Subject: Oh Say, Have You Scene - found on Electronic Musician Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 14:23:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <3zEJJB.A.vGB.Zqn88@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ...."I've just returned from Loopstock, a one-day concert and minifestival where barely three dozen people converged on a small dance studio warehouse in San Luis Obispo, California, from points as far-flung as Oregon, Boston, and Brazil. They came to perform, to listen, and to discuss a variety of takes on looping - from a three-piece synth band to DSP Demon Richard Zvonar mangling snippets of recorded music to a solo tuba player - all working with long delay loops. Probably over half the attendees were performing.".... http://industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazineid=33&releaseid=10101&m agazinearticleid=146673&siteid=15 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 27 15:00:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07521; Mon, 27 May 2002 14:59:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 14:59:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 11:59:03 -0700 Subject: OT a bit, synching mod rates on a lexicon mpx1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com so, I picked up one of these bad boys, and boy is it unlike the simple, "I'm seeing midi synch, so I'll synch any synchable parameters to it" style of the mpx500. I've got it to see and synch to a midi clock, but I'm having issues trying to get it to change rates regardless of if it's looking at an 8th note, or a hole note. What am I not getting? Anyone find any good resources for this box? Thanks, Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 27 15:15:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08422; Mon, 27 May 2002 15:14:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 15:14:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <170.e319044.2a23df40@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 15:13:04 EDT Subject: oh say, have you seen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: <-7DPeB.A.HDC.gVo88@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "The looping scene should have a long time to grow before it becomes co-opted, corrupted, or otherwise brought low.".....itwo LARRY THE O thank goodness.....i didnt want the party to end just because i showed up:).....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 09:50:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13147; Tue, 28 May 2002 09:49:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:49:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ff01c2064e$3d73cc10$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <006101c204f5$31de8340$e2981cd5@hyeena> Subject: Re: DIY midicontroller Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 08:47:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Check out: http://www.paia.com/midibrn.htm Probably the most economical DIY MIDIController I've seen. Disclaimer: I've never built one myself but I've built many PAIA projects with no complaints. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jukka Andersson" To: Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: DIY midicontroller > What is best choice for temporary DIY midicontroller project? > I have no money right now and no knowledge enought what I need for my > "real" midicontroller. I have been thinking about getting Doepfer > pocketdial or > similar but since for example my Korg 01/W I need just basic controller with > some knobs or faders. Perhaps 4-6 is just enought. > > Something easy to build and easy to get parts. > > .jukka andersson > rihmasto. > > www.rihmasto.n3.net > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 10:20:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16824; Tue, 28 May 2002 10:19:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:19:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3CF270E0.FCA1A725@friendlyspider.com> References: <20020527065728.59545.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:20:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Chovit Subject: Re: Live Multitrack Laptop Looping Suggestions?! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gary Phillips wrote: >You need to check out Ableton's Live....for Mac or PC..... >http://www.ableton.com/ >I was going to pick up the Repeater...my current looping tool >is a JamMan..... but I opted for software and the Roland BR532 >portable digital 4 track. I wanted something that was deadly quiet- >no hard drive noise, could run on batteries, and that I could transfer >tracks digitally into Live and Performer. Plus it has 32 tracks if you >count the 8 virtual per 4 tracks. How do you get the data digitally from the BR532 to the computer? Do you just transfer the smart media cards to a reader on your computer, or do you use the MIDI ports? What digital format is the music in? Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 10:42:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18574; Tue, 28 May 2002 10:41:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:41:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF396F5.7A6C2130@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:40:53 -0400 From: Dan Ash Reply-To: danash@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: MPX-1 $425 BLOWOUT! (Re: Lex MPX-1) References: <200205261948.PAA14785@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> They usually do not sell the demos, but I was told that I was at the local Sam Ash Music store the other day and overheard the salesman responding to a question about whether a guy could get a discount for the 'floor model'. The new response is "80% our stock is on the floor so there's no such thing as a 'floor model' anymore". Kinda strange seeing as most of the gear (including instruments) are so often banged up or otherwise not cared for. Anyway I thought I would pass this along, whether it's a real policy or just the pat answer for the usual concern about buying off the floor. My new attitude is 'Give me an unopened box' - I guess I'll take my chances with the quality control at the manufacturer. Web purchases are looking more attractive than ever these days. It's not like the sales people at these mega stores are familiar with the equipment. It's not hard to know more than these guys about almost any new gear if you do a little research on the web. Another salesperson, when I asked about the Mackie powered mixer gave me a blank look for a second, then said "Oh - Mack-kee! yes I've heard of them..." Sorry - I didn't mean to turn this into a rant. But I do miss the days where a local music store could distinguish themselves with knowledgable staff and a limited but decent selecion. And an occasional bargain hopefully. Dan Ash From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 11:07:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21501; Tue, 28 May 2002 11:06:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:06:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020528150521.26554.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 08:05:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Felix Subject: Gigging in NYC - Thursday May 30, 2002 at 9:30 pm To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000201c20430$3c007740$6401a8c0@we.client2.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hello all- reminder for my weekly gig Thursday, May 30, 2002 at Chama, 332 East 4th Street, betwixt Avenues C and D in New York City, NY. 646-654-6472 I begin ~9:30 pm and have been playing just past midnight. Check archives for quasi-reviews. tales from last week's gig: eh, none actually. I was actually hopped up to play, but the proprietor asked if he could have the evening to work on some items. thus, the gig was cancelled. I used the time and weekend to work on some sound ideas I plan on debuting this Thursday. Kind of a hyper-techno sound. best regards, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 11:09:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21834; Tue, 28 May 2002 11:08:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:08:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: Re: Oh Say, Have You Scene - found on Electronic Musician From: Jeffrey Lomas To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000e01c20579$4bb8d020$6687abd4@giow2000> References: <000e01c20579$4bb8d020$6687abd4@giow2000> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.4.99 Date: 28 May 2002 11:03:51 -0400 Message-Id: <1022598240.10602.24.camel@skinny> Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sounds like a concept that could be duplicated locally/regionally. Something like a loopers-delight open mic. Jeff On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 08:23, luca wrote: > ...."I've just returned from Loopstock, a one-day concert and minifestival > where barely three dozen people converged on a small dance studio warehouse > in San Luis Obispo, California, from points as far-flung as Oregon, Boston, > and Brazil. They came to perform, to listen, and to discuss a variety of > takes on looping - from a three-piece synth band to DSP Demon Richard Zvonar > mangling snippets of recorded music to a solo tuba player - all working with > long delay loops. Probably over half the attendees were performing.".... > > > > http://industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazineid=33&releaseid=10101&m > agazinearticleid=146673&siteid=15 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 11:20:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23280; Tue, 28 May 2002 11:19:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:19:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:22:35 -0400 From: David Beardsley Subject: Re: Oh Say, Have You Scene - found on Electronic Musician To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <004d01c2065b$7ecdc3c0$03ce2444@union01.nj.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000e01c20579$4bb8d020$6687abd4@giow2000> <1022598240.10602.24.camel@skinny> Resent-Message-ID: <-ocMRC.A.uqF.n_588@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Lomas" > Sounds like a concept that could be duplicated locally/regionally. > Something like a loopers-delight open mic. It's been happening in NYC for a few months now.... * David Beardsley * http://biink.com * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 11:30:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24019; Tue, 28 May 2002 11:29:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:29:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.74.111.202] From: "Nick Schillace" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Oh Say, Have You Scene - found on Electronic Musician Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:28:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2002 15:28:11.0716 (UTC) FILETIME=[46F73840:01C2065C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Any more mid-westers? Detroit has some interesting venues that would certainly be up for some looping. Nick Schillace In Door Park _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 11:32:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24202; Tue, 28 May 2002 11:31:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:31:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.199.73.91] From: "mommama" To: References: <200205261948.PAA14785@hemlock.violacea.com> <3CF396F5.7A6C2130@attglobal.net> Subject: music stores (was MPX-1 $425 blowout) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:31:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2002 15:30:13.0756 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FB50BC0:01C2065C] Resent-Message-ID: <8qTRV.A.u5F.kK688@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com For me, the worst part of playing music for years was dealing with music store salesman. Now that I have groups like this for my research and on-line sites who don't mind a full return before one month, I haven't been to a music store for months. The last time I was- was in Sam Ash in New York on the infamous 48th st. It took 10 minutes to get anyone's attention, then when I finally got what I wanted, I waited in line for another 5-7 minutes just to get a check out slip, then I waited another 10 minutes to pay for it, only then to wait another 3 minutes for the security guard to check everone out as they were leaving. Not one of the people I delt with were friendly or kind. Think I'll be going there again? I don't think so. Best Wishes Kevin http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/319/kevin_r_gallagher.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 12:19:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28827; Tue, 28 May 2002 12:18:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:18:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF3AD20.1AF4B383@pa.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:15:28 -0400 From: John McIntyre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Oh Say, Have You Scene - found on Electronic Musician References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nick Schillace wrote: > Any more mid-westers? Detroit has some interesting venues that would > certainly be up for some looping. I'm in Lansing. There's an art gallery here that hosts musical events on Friday evenings, but it's free admission and you have to arrange your own publicity. Also, the events are from 7 PM to 9 PM as they want it to be a "pre-hours" thing. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 12:26:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29620; Tue, 28 May 2002 12:24:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:24:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001d01c20664$09310920$2201a8c0@urso> From: "Daniel Pezzotti" To: References: <20020528150521.26554.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Gigging in NYC - Thursday May 30, 2002 at 9:30 pm Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:23:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Pedro! I'll be in NYC from tomorrow on...probably I'll join your show. What instruments are you playing? Take care Daniel (celloplayer from Zurich/Switzerland) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedro Felix" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: Gigging in NYC - Thursday May 30, 2002 at 9:30 pm hello all- reminder for my weekly gig Thursday, May 30, 2002 at Chama, 332 East 4th Street, betwixt Avenues C and D in New York City, NY. 646-654-6472 I begin ~9:30 pm and have been playing just past midnight. Check archives for quasi-reviews. tales from last week's gig: eh, none actually. I was actually hopped up to play, but the proprietor asked if he could have the evening to work on some items. thus, the gig was cancelled. I used the time and weekend to work on some sound ideas I plan on debuting this Thursday. Kind of a hyper-techno sound. best regards, Pedro Felix - NYC 2002 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 12:29:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30359; Tue, 28 May 2002 12:29:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:29:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:26:55 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Oh Say, Have You Scene - found on Electronic Musician In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: Resent-Message-ID: <1aj0jB.A.pZH.xA788@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:28 AM -0400 5/28/02, Nick Schillace wrote: >Any more mid-westers? Detroit has some interesting venues that would >certainly be up for some looping. Of course the obvious city for Midwestern loop activity is Chicago. ;-) -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 12:40:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31350; Tue, 28 May 2002 12:40:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:40:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brother Sean" To: Subject: RE: Oh Say, Have You Scene - found on Electronic Musician Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:39:01 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c20666$2cc90e80$5610d0cf@GEORGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm a Chicago looper and regularly play at The Uncommon Ground (small Coffeehouse venue). The venue lends itself to the singer-songwriter one guitar, one voice thing but I have always been well received. It is a great sounding room as well, the only downside is that they have a small Mackie board (12 channel) so you can't get too wild with stereo loops. Richard Lynch is the booking agent, nice fellow. For more info check out: www.uncommonground.com Kevin McPeak www.brothersean.com -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:27 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Oh Say, Have You Scene - found on Electronic Musician At 11:28 AM -0400 5/28/02, Nick Schillace wrote: >Any more mid-westers? Detroit has some interesting venues that would >certainly be up for some looping. Of course the obvious city for Midwestern loop activity is Chicago. ;-) -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 13:06:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01964; Tue, 28 May 2002 13:05:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:05:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005101c20637$221a6bc0$0ff8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <011401c20470$d15a4ec0$caf15cd1@LocalHost> Subject: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:02:15 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i searched the archives for reverb and only came up with "inexpensive" or "low-budget" so i'm asking for advice regarding middle-budget reverbs. i want a unit that is reverb and only reverb as this will probably stay on all the time just to add a touch of...well...reverb. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 13:11:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02453; Tue, 28 May 2002 13:10:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:10:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:09:48 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_REVERB_(somewhere_between_low_budget_and_high_budget)?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Italo_De_Angelis?=" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-XaM3-API-Version: 3.0.1build13 R13 X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 151.30.107.147 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA02420 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What's your "mid-budget" idea in term of $$$, then? Italo > i searched the archives for reverb and only came up with "inexpensive" or > "low-budget" so i'm asking for advice regarding middle-budget reverbs. > > i want a unit that is reverb and only reverb as this will probably sta y on > all the time just to add a touch of...well...reverb. > > -jim > > > ___________________________________________ Italo De Angelis Preset Design Engineer - Audio Division italo@eventide.com EVENTIDE AUDIO CUSTOMERS SUPPORT http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventidehelps/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 13:27:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03462; Tue, 28 May 2002 13:26:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:26:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:24:20 -0500 Subject: Re: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) From: "Richard J. Roberts" To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <005101c20637$221a6bc0$0ff8c440@g0wn7> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA03367 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jim - If you can find one, the recently-discontinued Roland SRV-3030D runs about $270, is time-delay effects only, with nice reverbs and a few delays. You can probably still find one through online & mail-order houses. Richard -- Richard J. Roberts / ZERO OHMS http://members.safepages.com/zeroohms/ spaceformusic.com/zeroohms zeroohms@surfbest.net > From: "Jimmy Fowler" > Organization: Prodigy Internet > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:02:15 +0100 > To: > Subject: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:05:45 -0400 > > i searched the archives for reverb and only came up with "inexpensive" or > "low-budget" so i'm asking for advice regarding middle-budget reverbs. > > i want a unit that is reverb and only reverb as this will probably stay on > all the time just to add a touch of...well...reverb. > > -jim > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 13:34:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04201; Tue, 28 May 2002 13:33:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:33:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:32:43 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2002 17:32:43.0656 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC96C880:01C2066D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Check out the used lexicons on ebay ie. LXP-1 are goiing for 100-150 & they sound really good cheers >From: "Jimmy Fowler" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) >Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:02:15 +0100 > >i searched the archives for reverb and only came up with "inexpensive" or >"low-budget" so i'm asking for advice regarding middle-budget reverbs. > >i want a unit that is reverb and only reverb as this will probably stay on >all the time just to add a touch of...well...reverb. > >-jim > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 14:01:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07668; Tue, 28 May 2002 14:00:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:00:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF3C57A.6EC98ABD@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:59:25 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: music stores (was MPX-1 $425 blowout) References: <200205261948.PAA14785@hemlock.violacea.com> <3CF396F5.7A6C2130@attglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It's true, I don't want people to think I'm endorsing The Guitar Center. Mostly I avoid it like the plague. However, when I need something small, or quickly, it's almost my only choice, and for sure the most convenient. Even if you don't shop there, the fact that they're blowing the MPX1 out cheap could at the very least be a bargaining chip for you at your favorite store. Knowledge is power. Mark Sottilaro mommama wrote: > For me, the worst part of playing music for years was dealing with music > store salesman. Now that I have groups like this for my research and on-line > sites who don't mind a full return before one month, I haven't been to a > music store for months. > > The last time I was- was in Sam Ash in New York on the infamous 48th st. It > took 10 minutes to get anyone's attention, then when I finally got what I > wanted, I waited in line for another 5-7 minutes just to get a check out > slip, then I waited another 10 minutes to pay for it, only then to wait > another 3 minutes for the security guard to check everone out as they were > leaving. Not one of the people I delt with were friendly or kind. Think I'll > be going there again? I don't think so. > > Best Wishes > > Kevin > > http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/319/kevin_r_gallagher.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 14:02:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07827; Tue, 28 May 2002 14:01:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:01:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000a01c20671$723d8260$0801a8c0@vz.dsl.genuity.net> From: "Clifford Novey" To: References: Subject: Re: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:59:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've seen the Roland SRV-3030D for below $230 at stores- I may check one out- the dynamics based delays sound interesting- Also- for $350 there is the TC M-One which is good for reverbs and more- very flexible and easy to use. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard J. Roberts" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: Re: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) > Jim - > > If you can find one, the recently-discontinued Roland SRV-3030D runs about > $270, is time-delay effects only, with nice reverbs and a few delays. You > can probably still find one through online & mail-order houses. > > Richard > -- > Richard J. Roberts / ZERO OHMS > http://members.safepages.com/zeroohms/ > spaceformusic.com/zeroohms > zeroohms@surfbest.net > > > > > > From: "Jimmy Fowler" > > Organization: Prodigy Internet > > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:02:15 +0100 > > To: > > Subject: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) > > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:05:45 -0400 > > > > i searched the archives for reverb and only came up with "inexpensive" or > > "low-budget" so i'm asking for advice regarding middle-budget reverbs. > > > > i want a unit that is reverb and only reverb as this will probably stay on > > all the time just to add a touch of...well...reverb. > > > > -jim > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 14:04:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08454; Tue, 28 May 2002 14:03:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:03:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF3C66D.FD98589A@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:03:28 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) References: <011401c20470$d15a4ec0$caf15cd1@LocalHost> <005101c20637$221a6bc0$0ff8c440@g0wn7> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the Lexicon MPX500 might be the box for you. Cheap and pretty good sounding, in my opinion. Does a bunch more than just Reverb too. Mark Jimmy Fowler wrote: > i searched the archives for reverb and only came up with "inexpensive" or > "low-budget" so i'm asking for advice regarding middle-budget reverbs. > > i want a unit that is reverb and only reverb as this will probably stay on > all the time just to add a touch of...well...reverb. > > -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 14:17:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09242; Tue, 28 May 2002 14:16:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:16:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF3C9E2.E9878108@friendlyspider.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:18:15 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Multitrack Laptop Looping Suggestions?! References: <20020527065728.59545.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Chris.... There is software for the Mac & Win (I had to really hunt down the Mac software, but I found it after Googling for a couple of hours) that lets you read the smartmedia cards -you must have an inexpensive card reader - and transfer standard AIFF (Mac) and WAV (Win) into the format the BR532 wants and vice versa..... You can select any of the virtual tracks to download or upload. The BR532 also has optical digital outs....I found a good price on a C02 optical to coax SPDIF box. The BR532 records at full 44.1 kHz ...... There is no indication that any compression schemes are being used....... in any case, it sounds very good ! The built-in effects are not stellar by any means....so I will generally record clean.. using the internal effects in monitor mode only. There is only one XLR mic input, so you can either use the guitar input with a transformer for a second mic, or, better yet, use the RCA line inputs with an external mixer. I have a Behringer MX602A which is a superb value given that it has 48v phantom.... but it does not run on batteries. There is rhythm track info stored on the smartmedia cards as well.... The BR532 comes with a bunch of preset patterns that you can steal snippets off of and recreate your own patterns....it is not as good as a programmable rhythm box...but it is much better than a metronome click. I'm checking into the Zoom MRT-3 to use as a proigrammable rhythm box ....it is very compact, runs on batteries, has velocity sensitive pads, and takes external MIDI control....and is under $100.... Zoom is really giving new meaning to "bang for the buck". -- gary @friendlyspider.com Chris Chovit wrote: > Gary Phillips wrote: > > >You need to check out Ableton's Live....for Mac or PC..... > >http://www.ableton.com/ > >I was going to pick up the Repeater...my current looping tool > >is a JamMan..... but I opted for software and the Roland BR532 > >portable digital 4 track. I wanted something that was deadly quiet- > >no hard drive noise, could run on batteries, and that I could transfer > >tracks digitally into Live and Performer. Plus it has 32 tracks if you > >count the 8 virtual per 4 tracks. > > How do you get the data digitally from the BR532 to the computer? Do you > just transfer the smart media cards to a reader on your computer, or do you > use the MIDI ports? What digital format is the music in? > > Thanks, > Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 14:51:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12617; Tue, 28 May 2002 14:50:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:50:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC5B@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" Subject: so cal, usa, gig spam Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:49:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C20678.77CB75A0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20678.77CB75A0 Content-Type: text/plain sorry for the late notice . . . Come out this Wednesday to The Smell and check a great show of improvised music. First up is the cooperative trio of: Jeff Kaiser: trumpet/electronics/loopage/ voice G.E. Stinson: guitars/electronics/loopage Steuart Liebig: basses/electronics/loopage and second is: SherpaCo: Vince Meghrouni - Fiendhorns Dan Clucas - trumpet, flute, suds Joe Baiza - guitar Jeremy Keller - guitar Eric Sbar - Euphonium, Valve Trombone Wayne Griffith - Drums Wednesday, May 29 @ 9:00pm The Smell 247 South Main (between 2nd and 3rd) [enter + parking in alley around back] Downtown Los Angeles $5 admission ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20678.77CB75A0 Content-Type: text/html Improvised Music at the Smell May 29
sorry for the late notice . . .
 

 
Come out this Wednesday to The Smell and check a great show of improvised music.

First up is the cooperative trio of:

Jeff Kaiser: trumpet/electronics/loopage/ voice
G.E. Stinson: guitars/electronics/loopage
Steuart Liebig: basses/electronics/loopage 

and second is:

SherpaCo:
Vince Meghrouni - Fiendhorns
Dan Clucas - trumpet, flute, suds
Joe Baiza - guitar
Jeremy Keller - guitar
Eric Sbar - Euphonium, Valve Trombone
Wayne Griffith - Drums

Wednesday, May 29 @ 9:00pm
The Smell
247 South Main (between 2nd and 3rd)
[enter + parking in alley around back]
Downtown Los Angeles
$5 admission

 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20678.77CB75A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 14:51:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12527; Tue, 28 May 2002 14:49:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:49:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF3D10E.CDD0B53E@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:48:49 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) References: <011401c20470$d15a4ec0$caf15cd1@LocalHost> <005101c20637$221a6bc0$0ff8c440@g0wn7> <3CF3C66D.FD98589A@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, I just thought of something. When I bought the Lexicon MPX1, it was to replace a Digitech DSP128. I only used it for reverb, but it also does all the usual time based effects. The case is scratched up (but not the faceplate), as I think the previous owner used it without racking it, but it works fine. He also had someone install two switch jacks in the back for patch up and down control. It's a single rack space unit. Make me an offer and pay for shipping, and it's yours. I'm more interested in having it find a nice home than money. One of my pet peevs is having any functional gear that's not being used. Mark Sottilaro Mark Sottilaro wrote: > the Lexicon MPX500 might be the box for you. Cheap and pretty good sounding, > in my opinion. Does a bunch more than just Reverb too. > > Mark > > Jimmy Fowler wrote: > > > i searched the archives for reverb and only came up with "inexpensive" or > > "low-budget" so i'm asking for advice regarding middle-budget reverbs. > > > > i want a unit that is reverb and only reverb as this will probably stay on > > all the time just to add a touch of...well...reverb. > > > > -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 15:59:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17931; Tue, 28 May 2002 15:58:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:58:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.88.176.65] From: "The Weg" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers in Charleston (Steve Reich premier) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:57:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2002 19:57:01.0958 (UTC) FILETIME=[D556D260:01C20681] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello Charlestonians!, I live in Charleston, W.V., Are there any other loopers in Charley town? Weg From: ENAT21213@aol.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers in Charleston (Steve Reich premier) Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:08:16 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [207.228.238.9] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBEBA53A600B740043194CFE4EE0906A70; Sun, 26 May 2002 09:09:18 -0700 Received: (from looper@localhost)by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01959;Sun, 26 May 2002 12:08:56 -0400 >From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun, 26 May 2002 09:11:10 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:08:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10500 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 5/25/02 4:59:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, toddreynolds@rcn.com writes: > I'll be in Charleston next week with Steve Reich... We're premiering his > three tales... Just got the charts and midi stuff in the mail, and it > sounds > SMOKIN'! any loopers in the area please be in touch... > > Best, > > Todd Reynolds > > charleston s.c????????????? if so i'm in myrtle beach.....an hour and a half away. brian electric bird noise something about vampires and sluts http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/382/something_about_vampires_a.html Weg _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 16:12:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20082; Tue, 28 May 2002 16:11:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:11:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC5E@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: totally ot . . . Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:11:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C20683.D24B5530" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20683.D24B5530 Content-Type: text/plain thanks to all who responded . . . much of what came back was thought-provoking and informational - - even if it wasn't what i was looking for! thanks again, stig Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. 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thanks to all who responded . . .

much of what came back was thought-provoking and informational - - even if it wasn't what i was looking for!

thanks again,

stig



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20683.D24B5530-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 16:47:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23181; Tue, 28 May 2002 16:46:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:46:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brother Sean" To: Subject: Repeater Remote Control Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:45:02 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c20688$8a71fc00$5610d0cf@GEORGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2065E.A19BF400" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2065E.A19BF400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been capturing loops with my repeater via a Fatar PS-100 foot switch. This is just a simple on/off footswitch. It does a fine job of capturing the loop when directly plugged into the footswitch jack of the Repeater. The problem is once I capture the loop I then have to hit play on the repeater's front panel to engage it. This never was a problem when I used my FCB1010 to capture loops they just automatically started playing after I captured them. I would like to steer clear of midi control if possible though. Do any of you who use the digitech FS300 for capturing loops have similar issues (of course you could just hit play on the footswitch but do you have to hit play at all) or is it just my PS100 switch? Thanks lots! Kevin McPeak www.brothersean.com ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2065E.A19BF400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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never was a problem when I used my FCB1010 to capture loops they just automatically = started playing after

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Thanks lots!

Kevin McPeak

www.brothersean.com

 

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2065E.A19BF400-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 17:01:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25867; Tue, 28 May 2002 17:00:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:00:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF3EF97.2E48998C@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:59:08 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater Remote Control References: <000401c20688$8a71fc00$5610d0cf@GEORGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The FS300 has three footswitches that control (from left to right) Undo, Stop/Start, Record. Hitting record once to start the loop, and a second time to end the loop does not stop the loop at all. I don't know how the FS300 is wired, but it seems very simple. Easy to reverse engineer. Mark Brother Sean wrote: > I have been capturing loops with my repeater via a Fatar PS-100 foot > switch. This is just a simple > > on/off footswitch. It does a fine job of capturing the loop when > directly plugged into the footswitch jack of the > > Repeater. The problem is once I capture the loop I then have to hit > play on the repeaterís front panel to engage it. This > > never was a problem when I used my FCB1010 to capture loops they just > automatically started playing after > > I captured them. > > I would like to steer clear of midi control if possible though. > > Do any of you who use the digitech FS300 for capturing loops have > similar issues (of course you could just hit play on the footswitch > but do you have to hit play at all) or is it just my PS100 switch? > > Thanks lots! > > Kevin McPeak > > www.brothersean.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 17:10:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26651; Tue, 28 May 2002 17:09:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:09:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020528170625.00af3738@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: anticlockwise@tensionheadache.org@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:08:30 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: tom pm NYC - it's psych nite! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com losing your way was never this loud: at the homey and ultra-discreet free103point9 fm: at the frree103point9 tono-bungay primordial undermind davis radfrod triad 97 south 6th st - williamsburg doors open @ 8 it's over by 12 admission: $5.88 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 17:22:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27926; Tue, 28 May 2002 17:21:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:21:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020528212120.40658.qmail@web21308.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: Repeater Remote Control To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000401c20688$8a71fc00$5610d0cf@GEORGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Brother Sean wrote: > Do any of you who use the digitech FS300 for capturing loops have > similar issues (of course you could just hit play on the footswitch > but do you have to hit play at all) or is it just my PS100 switch? I also use the FS300 with a Repeater. As Mark said, when you press record the second time to exit record mode, it immediately starts looping what you recorded. The FS300 is a combination of 3 switches on a TRS connection to the Repeater, the three switchs have resistors associated with them. I once saw a schematic for one on a web page somewhere, if you don't want to buy one, you could build it yourself without much trouble. Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 17:43:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29800; Tue, 28 May 2002 17:42:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:42:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020528214203.66616.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:42:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: Lex MPX-1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020525100848.02a85260@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <2c6fDD.A.BRH.um_88@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Tom Heasley wrote: > At 02:17 PM 5/22/02, you wrote: > > > I use it mostly for pitch programs in tandem with a D-TWO and a > DL4. > > > I like it. > >Tom, > >If the MPX-1 does everything it claims, why would you also need the > >D-Two (and/or DL4)? More (varied) delays at the same time? > You do know that it is the G2, not the MPX1, that has a JamMan > program, > right? - not sure what you think the MPX1 claims to be able to do > that > would obviate the need for a DL4, EDP or other looper, with which to > do live multi-tracking. I wasn't questioning why you'd want something else for looping, that's obvious to me. It just seemed that the MPX-1 and D-2 were kind of redundant, which made me wonder if the MPX-1 had some inherent performance issues, or if you used the D-2 for something additional it offered. > I'd love nothing better than to only have to haul > around one piece of processing gear. That would be a dream. I guess some of the high end Eventide boxes are probably there, but are expensive and complex. > Hopefully some day in the not > too distant future, I can accomplish this with a laptop... That has a lot of potential, but presents a lot of different potential problems. Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 18:25:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00910; Tue, 28 May 2002 18:24:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:24:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003a01c20663$d0f596c0$01f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <011401c20470$d15a4ec0$caf15cd1@LocalHost> <005101c20637$221a6bc0$0ff8c440@g0wn7> <3CF3C66D.FD98589A@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: REVERB (somewhere between low budget and high budget) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:22:07 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com mid-budget...something between 250-750...preferably around 500, though since i'll only be using the reverbs. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 28 19:33:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05215; Tue, 28 May 2002 19:32:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:32:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:28:06 -0700 Subject: echoplex new software From: Tom De Vries To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, I just recently subscribed to the list, sorry if this is a lame question. I did check the archives but didn't see anything recent. The new software for the Echoplex has been in development and just recently showcased . Is there any further word on release date? Thanks for any info, Tom De Vries Alberta, Canada From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 13:55:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10791; Wed, 29 May 2002 13:54:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:54:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF51558.CF4C4564@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:52:24 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Tap tap tap References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is this thing on? I can't imagine not a single peep out of the loopers last night or today. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 13:56:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10869; Wed, 29 May 2002 13:55:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:55:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020529175444.56534.qmail@web21303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: Tap tap tap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3CF51558.CF4C4564@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Is this thing on? I can't imagine not a single peep out of the > loopers last night or today. I've gotten a couple of msgs, but not many. Guess everyone's quiet today. Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 13:59:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11489; Wed, 29 May 2002 13:58:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:58:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF507AC.602D9B70@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:54:04 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tap tap tap References: <3CF51558.CF4C4564@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the rain stopped Claude Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > Is this thing on? I can't imagine not a single peep out of the loopers last > night or today. > > Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 14:04:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13164; Wed, 29 May 2002 14:03:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:03:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Robert van der Kamp Reply-To: robnet@wxs.nl To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tap tap tap Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:01:53 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <3CF51558.CF4C4564@zerocrossing.net> In-Reply-To: <3CF51558.CF4C4564@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020529180201.GTHA14078.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@there> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Wednesday 29 May 2002 19:52, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Is this thing on? I can't imagine not a single peep out of the > loopers last night or today. I got my Repeater today. - Robert From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 14:09:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13578; Wed, 29 May 2002 14:08:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:08:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003c01c20709$44162fc0$13f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <011401c20470$d15a4ec0$caf15cd1@LocalHost> <005101c20637$221a6bc0$0ff8c440@g0wn7> <3CF3C66D.FD98589A@zerocrossing.net> Subject: OT: sherman filterbank 2 FOR SALE Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:06:27 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i'm selling my sherman filterbank 2. it's in great shape...i just don't use it much. if you're interested, email me off the list (jimfowler@prodigy.net) and we'll discuss a price. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 14:10:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13763; Wed, 29 May 2002 14:10:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:10:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004201c20709$686eb0e0$13f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: <011401c20470$d15a4ec0$caf15cd1@LocalHost> <005101c20637$221a6bc0$0ff8c440@g0wn7> <3CF3C66D.FD98589A@zerocrossing.net> Subject: OT: raven labs true blue eq FOR SALE Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:07:29 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <6tzVGC.A.OUD.pkR98@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com upgrading to a fully parametric eq. email off the list for details (jimfowler@prodigy.net) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 14:36:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15671; Wed, 29 May 2002 14:35:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:35:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 22:21:18 -0400 Subject: Re: Loopers in Charleston (Steve Reich premier) From: todd reynolds To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Toddreyn@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nope, sorry... Believe me, I wish we got around more, too... > no chance steve reich will be performing in > hattiesburg, ms huh? anywhere closer to mississippi > (new orleans, atlanta, memphis, etc.)? > > -jim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 15:10:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18857; Wed, 29 May 2002 15:08:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:08:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [165.247.5.164] From: "Brian O'Connell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Earthly Delights-Boston-5/30 Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:06:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 May 2002 19:06:57.0210 (UTC) FILETIME=[00C869A0:01C20744] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

My side project Earthly Delights (I usually play bass and Warr Guitar in Uncle Sammy) will be playing at Emily's in Bostonon Thursday, 5/30. Emily's is located on Winter Street right off of the Park Street T stop. Earthly Delights incorporates influences of world, trip hop, jazz and your basic old fasion american experimentalism. The instrumentation includes Warr Guitar (stick), bass, processed trumpet, drums, loops and samples. So come on down and enjoy some new music in Boston and check out a great little club with a nice vibe.

Emily's website: http://www.weseatyou.com/restaurants/700/emilys/intronet.htm

Brian O'Connell
1128 Commonwealth Ave. #6
Allston, MA 02134
617-277-2431

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 15:40:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20872; Wed, 29 May 2002 15:39:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:39:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brother Sean" To: Subject: Mutator anybody? Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:38:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c20748$7696cfb0$5610d0cf@GEORGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20020529180201.GTHA14078.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@there> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I finally after 6 months of wait received my Mutator yesterday. I can't wait to use this thing on some of my loops! Anybody out there using one of these? Kevin McPeak www.brothersean.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 15:45:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21450; Wed, 29 May 2002 15:44:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:44:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: XoxDaTeasexoX@aol.com Message-ID: <184.8fbd879.2a268958@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:43:20 EDT Subject: Re: Tap tap tap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_184.8fbd879.2a268958_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 10512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_184.8fbd879.2a268958_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hiya how r u all? --part1_184.8fbd879.2a268958_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hiya how r u all? --part1_184.8fbd879.2a268958_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 15:45:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21530; Wed, 29 May 2002 15:45:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:45:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: XoxDaTeasexoX@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:43:51 EDT Subject: Re: Tap tap tap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d6.172c31d9.2a268977_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 10512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_d6.172c31d9.2a268977_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm not quiet!! I never really shut up !! Lol --part1_d6.172c31d9.2a268977_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm not quiet!! I never really shut up !! Lol --part1_d6.172c31d9.2a268977_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 15:48:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22257; Wed, 29 May 2002 15:47:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:47:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: XoxDaTeasexoX@aol.com Message-ID: <155.e8e99fe.2a268a22@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:46:42 EDT Subject: Re: Mutator anybody? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_155.e8e99fe.2a268a22_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 10512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_155.e8e99fe.2a268a22_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nope i don't use one ........well maybe i do i aint got a clue what ur goin on bout !! :o) --part1_155.e8e99fe.2a268a22_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nope i don't use one ........well maybe i do i aint got a clue what ur goin on bout !! :o) --part1_155.e8e99fe.2a268a22_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 16:02:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24434; Wed, 29 May 2002 16:01:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:01:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002b01c2074b$71174fd0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <000001c20748$7696cfb0$5610d0cf@GEORGE> Subject: Re: Mutator anybody? Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:00:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes! Do tell. What's a Mutator? Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brother Sean" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: Mutator anybody? > I finally after 6 months of wait received my Mutator yesterday. I can't > wait to use this thing on some of my loops! > > Anybody out there using one of these? > > Kevin McPeak > www.brothersean.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 16:13:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25281; Wed, 29 May 2002 16:10:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:10:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: paulrichard10@attbi.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ZOOM MRS1044 CD Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:09:20 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 29 2002) Message-Id: <20020529200920.SSZF13253.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@rwcrwbc58> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Please! Please somebody! Anybody! Please reply to my message re: the MRS1044 Digital Recorder! I love the thing! > Is this thing on? I can't imagine not a single peep out of the loopers last > night or today. > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 16:13:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25659; Wed, 29 May 2002 16:12:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:12:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brother Sean" To: Subject: RE: Mutator anybody? Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:11:33 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c2074d$073ba1e0$5610d0cf@GEORGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002b01c2074b$71174fd0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dennis I could go on and on but here is Mutronic's web page with sound clips of what the Mutator can do. It is similar to a Sherman Filterbank but I believe a little sexier. http://www.mutronics.co.uk/html/mutator.htm enjoy, Kevin www.brothersean.com -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Leas [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:00 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mutator anybody? Yes! Do tell. What's a Mutator? Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brother Sean" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: Mutator anybody? > I finally after 6 months of wait received my Mutator yesterday. I can't > wait to use this thing on some of my loops! > > Anybody out there using one of these? > > Kevin McPeak > www.brothersean.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 16:15:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25908; Wed, 29 May 2002 16:14:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:14:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF536F3.C27DA5F6@friendlyspider.com> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:16:12 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tap tap tap References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4FpDv.A.1TG.3ZT98@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is someone trying to tap tempo into their Repeater remotely using email ? On another note..... I've mentioned Ableton's "Live" in several posts... Am I the only one who's discovered this looping software for live and studio use ? -- gary @friendlyspider.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 16:16:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26067; Wed, 29 May 2002 16:15:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:15:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Robert van der Kamp Reply-To: robnet@wxs.nl To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mutator anybody? Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 22:14:15 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <000001c20748$7696cfb0$5610d0cf@GEORGE> <002b01c2074b$71174fd0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> In-Reply-To: <002b01c2074b$71174fd0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020529201422.IYSQ25038.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@there> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Wednesday 29 May 2002 22:00, Dennis Leas wrote: > Yes! Do tell. What's a Mutator? It's a beautiful stereo analog filter by Mutronics, with optional MIDI control. I heard the demos...very smooth. - Robert From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 16:47:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28451; Wed, 29 May 2002 16:47:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:47:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:46:15 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: Mutator anybody? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <02e001c20751$e037bd90$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000001c2074d$073ba1e0$5610d0cf@GEORGE> Resent-Message-ID: <_4noHB.A.H8G.c4T98@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yet another cool device i wish i had money to blow on... way cool demo's... totally nipple. > Dennis I could go on and on but here is Mutronic's web page with sound > clips of what the Mutator can do. It is similar to a Sherman Filterbank > but I believe a little sexier. > > http://www.mutronics.co.uk/html/mutator.htm > > enjoy, > Kevin > www.brothersean.com > > > > Yes! Do tell. What's a Mutator? > > Dennis Leas > ------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 19:34:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09300; Wed, 29 May 2002 19:33:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:33:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c20769$14caf100$0201a8c0@eluk> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <3CF51558.CF4C4564@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Tap tap tap Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 00:32:16 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, I've been at DVD Europe through the end of the week. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 18:52 PM Subject: Tap tap tap > Is this thing on? I can't imagine not a single peep out of the loopers last > night or today. > > Mark > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 20:18:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12523; Wed, 29 May 2002 20:17:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:17:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Message-ID: <197.7aa8502.2a26c94e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:16:14 EDT Subject: AKASH brings you "The Rev. Johnny Hell Theme Song To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_197.7aa8502.2a26c94e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10514 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_197.7aa8502.2a26c94e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AKASH: "The World's Most Erotic Band" Features members who have played with God Lives Underwater, Cecil Taylor, GONG and Dee-Lite, drops a "drop kick" Drum n' Bass tune: "THE REV. JOHNNY HELL THEME SONG" The Rev. Johnny Hell, AKASH's minister of "Fire and Perverted Information" needs no formal introduction to those of you near to Philly or those of you in the "know" who have witnessed AKASH LIVE while touring thru your Hometown. But definitely - DO - Download This New Song: http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/2465/2465399.html Warm Regards, JP/AKASH "The World's Most Erotic Band" http://www.mp3.com/akashmusic --part1_197.7aa8502.2a26c94e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AKASH: "The World's Most Erotic Band"
Features members who have played with God Lives Underwater, Cecil
Taylor, GONG and Dee-Lite, drops a "drop kick" Drum n' Bass
tune: "THE REV. JOHNNY HELL THEME SONG"

The Rev. Johnny Hell, AKASH's minister of "Fire and Perverted
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 --part1_197.7aa8502.2a26c94e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 29 23:58:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26604; Wed, 29 May 2002 23:57:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 23:57:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: The Silence is Deafening Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:57:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Not being overly cautious, let me be the first to point out the obvious wait for the other shoe to drop with regard to the Echoplex Upgrade. It's been a while since the first batch was distributed to those who were in attendance at the Pre-Release Showcase--over a month by my reckoning. Heck, it was over a month ago that Kim predicted the Loop IV software would be ready to ship in a week. Hey, don't get me wrong--I can be as patient as the next manual-lovin' technophile. Actually, this IS me being patient (if still tweaked that I couldn't be at Loopstock OR the Oakland party). I am simply giving voice to the (obviously) silent majority who are waiting to see what years of hard work will mean to EDP owners. In the meantime, any San Diego loopers out there? I'm in the 92064 area-- Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 00:48:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA30219; Thu, 30 May 2002 00:47:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 00:47:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 00:37:13 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance @ MIT Museum 5.31.02, 5:30 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi folks, I'll be performing video improvisation accompanying live electronic music at the MIT Museum, at the opening reception for a show that will include some very impressive microprocessor and robotics based art. C3 -- COLLISION 3 IN SUPER 3D a celebration of art and technology may 31 from 5-8pm june 1-2 from 12-5pm opening reception may 31 2002 MIT Museum 265 mass ave cambridge ma 02139 featured artists: jonathan bachrach, aaron edsinger, holly gates,henry kaufman, brian knep, ryan mckinley, dan paluska, ben piper, john powell, casey reas, fran trainor, david webber, jeff weber, margaret weigel presented by atat, the collision collective, and the mit museum http://web.mit.edu/at/www http://www.collisioncollective.org http://web.mit.edu/museum -- Visit "Before the Fall -- Images of the World Trade Center" at http://www.foryourhead.com "There were so many things there that are not anywhere else in the world. There were millions of people, the strange reflective bars of the buildings and the shiny and shimmering towers that seemed like a fairy tale" -- David-Michael Cook Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 00:51:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA30652; Thu, 30 May 2002 00:51:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 00:51:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cave@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1-J Reply-To: cave@osk.3web.ne.jp Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:50:43 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: OT: [web cast spam] Live from Far East Vol.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, This is information of our series Internet broadcast live gig, it called "Live from Far East" 1st gig is 2nd June. You can see our gig via Real Player. Please visit below: http://www.cavestudio.org/cue/live_from_far_east or http://www.cavestudio.org/cue/live_from_far_east/broadcast Live from Far East Vol.1 When: 2nd June 2002 9:00-11:00 GMT (18:00$B!](B20:00 JST) Performance: Sunao Inami (Powerbook G4) http://www.cavestudio.com Kazuya Ishigami (Powerbook G4) http://www.neus318.com Emi Makino (Dance) Where: http://www.cavestudio.org/cue/live_from_far_east (Real Player G2 or higher required) from Kobe,Japan More Info: C.U.E. http://www.cavestudio.org/cue cue@cavestudio.org ______________________ sorry for spam.. Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 00:53:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA31021; Thu, 30 May 2002 00:52:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 00:52:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020529210504.00b3ab90@pop.charter.net> X-Sender: armatronix@pop.charter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:51:40 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: armatronix Subject: Re: The Silence is Deafening In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com While you wait, I'll share my favorite Loop4 feature so far: SyncRecord. SyncRecord is a record mode which is active when Sync=In and Quantize=Off. If you're like me, you always use the EDP synced to an outside MIDI source. In Loop3, in order for your Loops to be in sync with the drum machine(s), you have to keep Quantize=On, in which case recording will only start at the StartPoint. This can cause difficulties if you have a pickup note before the one, or if you lose track of the one altogether, as I often do. Of course, you can redefine your start point, but that may interfere with the Mating Dance. With SyncRecord, recording starts immediately upon pressing the Record button and rounds to the next cycle upon releasing it. If you wish to have your loop unsynced (with Sync=In), you can press Overdub while in the Reset state, and sync will be ignored for the next Record. The EDP must receive one full measure of sync to figure out the cycle time, after which it displays that time on the screen. If you press Record before that happens, you won't be in sync. That reminds me of another cool pair of additions, Quantize=Loop and Quantize=8th. In Loop3, you have Quantize=Off or Quantize=On, in which case your button presses sync to your cycle length. Now, Quantize=Loop quantizes button presses to the length of the entire loop (i.e. multiple cycles), while Quantize=8th quantizes to the nearest 8th note. That's all for now. Believe me, even though I already have the new software, I can't wait for it to be released either. I'm looking forward to some other list members getting their feet wet, so that we can have some discussion and try to figure out what all of these new features actually do, and how to use them! The beta test guys must either be sworn to silence or else they just have everything figured out already ;), because I notice that they're keeping tight-lipped. In case anybody in the know is still reading this: Are presets the proper way to drop in and out of quantize? I notice that there are no DirectMIDI commands listed for quantize settings. Now that I've programmed the PMC-10 to perform the basic functions, and I'm really digging the unquantized SUS functions, I realize that I'd like for HalfSpeed and Reverse to remain quantized. I haven't figured out how to store and recall presets yet, but it seems like you could possibly add a preset call to a button press to control the quantization of a given function; for example, to have an 8th note Replace or a cycle-length Insert. ??? -Hans Lindauer At 20:57 29/05/2002, you wrote: >Not being overly cautious, let me be the first to point out the obvious wait >for the other shoe to drop with regard to the Echoplex Upgrade. It's been a >while since the first batch was distributed to those who were in attendance >at the Pre-Release Showcase--over a month by my reckoning. Heck, it was >over a month ago that Kim predicted the Loop IV software would be ready to >ship in a week. >Hey, don't get me wrong--I can be as patient as the next manual-lovin' >technophile. Actually, this IS me being patient (if still tweaked that I >couldn't be at Loopstock OR the Oakland party). I am simply giving voice to >the (obviously) silent majority who are waiting to see what years of hard >work will mean to EDP owners. >In the meantime, any San Diego loopers out there? I'm in the 92064 area-- >Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 01:10:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA01123; Thu, 30 May 2002 01:10:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 01:10:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 22:09:41 -0700 Subject: Re: The Silence is Deafening Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020529210504.00b3ab90@pop.charter.net> Message-Id: <726EF60A-738B-11D6-BFC4-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Wednesday, May 29, 2002, at 09:51 PM, armatronix wrote: > That's all for now. Believe me, even though I already have the new > software, I can't wait for it to be released either. Wait... I'm not a EDP owner, but I'm confused. There was a release party, and Hans (and others) have it... so isn't it out? I imagine it's just burning the eproms... no? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 03:11:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA09151; Thu, 30 May 2002 03:08:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 03:08:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Om_Audio" To: Subject: Mark Isham looping in L.A. Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 00:07:42 -0700 Message-ID: <006601c207a8$b17db160$6401a8c0@we.client2.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2076E.051ED960" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2076E.051ED960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got home from a Mark Isham show here in L.A. Just like the time I saw him a few years ago it was fantastic. And of course I got there late- naps take precedence! ;) He was using an E-Mu Esx sampler with a Buchla Thunder controller- and also a Ground Controller for I don=92t = know what. A new addition was a Repeater- it was on top of a Korg Trinity which was on top of a Fender 78 Rhodes. Repeater controlled by a FS-300- mainly catching keyboard riffs- midi synced to a Mac laptop running Logic- which had a Oxygen 2oct controller hooked up as well.=20 =20 Nels Cline on guitar- always awesome- always looping-=20 Drummer/Percussionist DJ/Computer operator Singer =20 Looping is here to stay. Yay. =20 Cliff =20 http://www.om-studios.com =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2076E.051ED960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just got home from a = Mark Isham show here in L.A. Just like the time I = saw him a few years ago it was fantastic. And of course I got there late- = naps take precedence! ;) He was using = an E-Mu Esx = sampler with = a Buchla Thunder controller- and also a Ground Controller for I don=92t know what. A new = addition = was a Repeater- it = was on top of = a Korg Trinity which was on top of = a Fender 78 Rhodes. Repeater controlled by = a FS-300- = mainly catching = keyboard riffs- midi synced to a Mac laptop running Logic- which had a Oxygen 2oct controller hooked up as well. =

 

Nels Cline on guitar- = always awesome- always looping- =

Drummer/Percussionist

DJ/Computer operator

Singer

 

Looping is here to stay. =  Yay.

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2076E.051ED960-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 03:47:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA10988; Thu, 30 May 2002 03:46:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 03:46:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF5C9D4.CC310138@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:42:28 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Silence is Deafening References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gary here is some genuine EDP loop4 code to help you stop whining please open the loop 3 eeprom with a cutter and insert the code gently you will have the boot intro screen in 32 millions of colors with some André Lafosse music (the crrcksdff when the display flashes in violet) dont close the prom definitly yet as more will follow Claude snip here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snip here....... Gary Lehmann wrote: > > Not being overly cautious, let me be the first to point out the obvious wait > for the other shoe to drop with regard to the Echoplex Upgrade. It's been a > while since the first batch was distributed to those who were in attendance > at the Pre-Release Showcase--over a month by my reckoning. Heck, it was > over a month ago that Kim predicted the Loop IV software would be ready to > ship in a week. > Hey, don't get me wrong--I can be as patient as the next manual-lovin' > technophile. Actually, this IS me being patient (if still tweaked that I > couldn't be at Loopstock OR the Oakland party). I am simply giving voice to > the (obviously) silent majority who are waiting to see what years of hard > work will mean to EDP owners. > In the meantime, any San Diego loopers out there? I'm in the 92064 area-- > Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 09:42:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05919; Thu, 30 May 2002 09:40:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:40:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mark Isham looping in L.A. Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:39:15 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2002 13:39:15.0595 (UTC) FILETIME=[63F5CDB0:01C207DF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Cliff, That line up sounds cool. I got to see Isham in NYC a few years back . It was during the "silent way project" He was using a Vox wah, Jam Man & TC Electronic G-force. Great sounds off the trumpet & the band were great too. I hope he returns here again soon. Cheers LOU >From: "Om_Audio" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Mark Isham looping in L.A. >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 00:07:42 -0700 > >I just got home from a Mark Isham show here in L.A. Just like the time I >saw him a few years ago it was fantastic. And of course I got there >late- naps take precedence! ;) He was using an E-Mu Esx sampler with a >Buchla Thunder controller- and also a Ground Controller for I don’t know >what. A new addition was a Repeater- it was on top of a Korg Trinity >which was on top of a Fender 78 Rhodes. Repeater controlled by a FS-300- >mainly catching keyboard riffs- midi synced to a Mac laptop running >Logic- which had a Oxygen 2oct controller hooked up as well. > > > >Nels Cline on guitar- always awesome- always looping- > >Drummer/Percussionist > >DJ/Computer operator > >Singer > > > >Looping is here to stay. Yay. > > > >Cliff > > > >http://www.om-studios.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 09:49:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06876; Thu, 30 May 2002 09:48:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:48:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:54:20 -0500 Subject: Re: The Silence is Deafening: there is some sort of problem From: Peter Einhorn To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3CF5C9D4.CC310138@vtx.ch> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -it seems that there is some sort of problem. I'd call this a reasonable assumption at this point. But, What about those who were at the release party and got the upgrade. What say you? > > > Gary Lehmann wrote: >> >> Not being overly cautious, let me be the first to point out the obvious wait >> for the other shoe to drop with regard to the Echoplex Upgrade. It's been a >> while since the first batch was distributed to those who were in attendance >> at the Pre-Release Showcase--over a month by my reckoning. Heck, it was >> over a month ago that Kim predicted the Loop IV software would be ready to >> ship in a week. >> Hey, don't get me wrong--I can be as patient as the next manual-lovin' >> technophile. Actually, this IS me being patient (if still tweaked that I >> couldn't be at Loopstock OR the Oakland party). I am simply giving voice to >> the (obviously) silent majority who are waiting to see what years of hard >> work will mean to EDP owners. >> In the meantime, any San Diego loopers out there? I'm in the 92064 area-- >> Gary > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 10:51:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11916; Thu, 30 May 2002 10:50:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:50:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: OT: Stuff for sale Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:48:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C207E9.1DF38C30" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C207E9.1DF38C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry for OT post. I have a few things for sale. Contact me off-list if interested. Prices listed but all offers considered. Zoom 9002 Digital Multi-effects unit. A classic. Battery is dead and cannot be replaced but adaptor works fine. $90 Peavey Backstage Plus Guitar Amp. 35 watts but quite loud. 1x12; solid state. Great crunch metal/punk sound. $100 Peavey Bandit Guitar Amp. Not sure watts but most likely 70+. Tube emulating solid state. $150. M-Audio Dio2448 Audio Card. This card does not handle analog conversion or have analog jacks FYI. $50 http://midiman.com/products/m-audio/dio2448.php For those in NYC, I could meet you to save on shipping. Sorry for the spam and thanks for the consideration, Ben ------_=_NextPart_001_01C207E9.1DF38C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Stuff for sale

Sorry for OT post. I have a few things for sale. = Contact me off-list if interested. Prices listed but all offers = considered.


Zoom 9002 Digital Multi-effects unit. A classic. = Battery is dead and cannot be replaced but adaptor works fine. = $90

Peavey Backstage Plus Guitar Amp. 35 watts but quite = loud. 1x12; solid state. Great crunch metal/punk sound. $100

Peavey Bandit Guitar Amp. Not sure watts but most = likely 70+. Tube emulating solid state. $150.

M-Audio Dio2448 Audio Card. This card does not handle = analog conversion or have analog jacks FYI. $50
http://midiman.com/products/m-audio/dio2448.php


For those in NYC, I could meet you to save on = shipping.

Sorry for the spam and thanks for the = consideration,

Ben

------_=_NextPart_001_01C207E9.1DF38C30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 11:27:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15504; Thu, 30 May 2002 11:26:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:26:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:25:36 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: The Silence is Deafening To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <037401c207ee$3f39f910$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <3CF5C9D4.CC310138@vtx.ch> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com and here's a bit of the source code if you want to recompile: 10 GoSub TastyGroove 20 go to 10 > Gary > > here is some genuine EDP loop4 code to help you stop whining > please open the loop 3 eeprom with a cutter and insert the code gently > > you will have the boot intro screen in 32 millions of colors with some > André Lafosse music > (the crrcksdff when the display flashes in violet) > > > dont close the prom definitly yet as more will follow > > Claude > > snip here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snip here....... > > > > Gary Lehmann wrote: > > > > Not being overly cautious, let me be the first to point out the obvious wait > > for the other shoe to drop with regard to the Echoplex Upgrade. It's been a > > while since the first batch was distributed to those who were in attendance > > at the Pre-Release Showcase--over a month by my reckoning. Heck, it was > > over a month ago that Kim predicted the Loop IV software would be ready to > > ship in a week. > > Hey, don't get me wrong--I can be as patient as the next manual-lovin' > > technophile. Actually, this IS me being patient (if still tweaked that I > > couldn't be at Loopstock OR the Oakland party). I am simply giving voice to > > the (obviously) silent majority who are waiting to see what years of hard > > work will mean to EDP owners. > > In the meantime, any San Diego loopers out there? I'm in the 92064 area-- > > Gary > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 11:43:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16509; Thu, 30 May 2002 11:42:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:42:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020530154201.51948.qmail@web21308.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg House Subject: Re: The Silence is Deafening To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <037401c207ee$3f39f910$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com More like: 10 goto 10 It -is- a looper, after all... gh --- jim palmer wrote: > and here's a bit of the source code if you want to recompile: > > 10 GoSub TastyGroove > 20 go to 10 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 11:52:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17060; Thu, 30 May 2002 11:51:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:51:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Mutator anybody? Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:50:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <2T7G8D.A.KKE.Jpk98@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Similar in cost? Also seems MUCH smoother than the Sherman which (at least the way I use it) seems hellbent on destruction ;) Double LFOs is *nice* -----Original Message----- From: Brother Sean [mailto:info@brothersean.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Mutator anybody? Dennis I could go on and on but here is Mutronic's web page with sound clips of what the Mutator can do. It is similar to a Sherman Filterbank but I believe a little sexier. http://www.mutronics.co.uk/html/mutator.htm enjoy, Kevin www.brothersean.com -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Leas [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:00 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mutator anybody? Yes! Do tell. What's a Mutator? Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brother Sean" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: Mutator anybody? > I finally after 6 months of wait received my Mutator yesterday. I can't > wait to use this thing on some of my loops! > > Anybody out there using one of these? > > Kevin McPeak > www.brothersean.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 11:55:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17522; Thu, 30 May 2002 11:54:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:54:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:54:12 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: The Silence is Deafening To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <03d601c207f2$3e3e3720$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20020530154201.51948.qmail@web21308.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sure, if you want to loop nothing. if that's your taste, times being what they are... what is the sound of nothing looping? ahh the subject begins to take another meaning... it's this kind of flexibility that next gen loopers like the againinator will excel at. > More like: > > 10 goto 10 > > It -is- a looper, after all... > > gh > > > --- jim palmer wrote: > > and here's a bit of the source code if you want to recompile: > > > > 10 GoSub TastyGroove > > 20 go to 10 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 12:07:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19696; Thu, 30 May 2002 12:06:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:06:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brother Sean" To: Subject: Mutator Source Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:05:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c207f3$cf742d20$5610d0cf@GEORGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C207C9.E69FABC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C207C9.E69FABC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Rick and others interested in purchasing a Mutator I bought mine from www.NovaMusik.com . The fellow I spoke with is Tony. Novamusik.com is in WI and they buy them from England directly. I payed $800 for mine and it includes the midi feature (didn't have to pay for shipping from England or WI). But I guess the price just went up to around $1000. Hope this helps and be prepared to wait awhile. Kevin McPeak www.brothersean.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C207C9.E69FABC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For Rick and others interested in purchasing a Mutator I bought mine from www.NovaMusik.com . The fellow I = spoke

with is Tony. Novamusik.com is in WI and they buy them from = England directly. I payed $800 for mine and it = includes the midi feature (didn’t have to pay for shipping from = England or WI). But I guess the price just = went up to around $1000.

 

Hope this helps and be prepared to wait = awhile…

 

Kevin McPeak

www.brothersean.com

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C207C9.E69FABC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 12:10:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20154; Thu, 30 May 2002 12:09:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:09:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: RE: The Silence is Deafening Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:07:47 -0700 Message-ID: <000101c207f4$256b5140$59d656d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <03d601c207f2$3e3e3720$080210ac@jpalmer> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Typical looper list stuff Start with perfectly good whining and end up with philosophy Not Candace--Gary--still whining--but glad for discussion -----Original Message----- From: jim palmer [mailto:jimp@pobox.com] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:54 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Silence is Deafening sure, if you want to loop nothing. if that's your taste, times being what they are... what is the sound of nothing looping? ahh the subject begins to take another meaning... it's this kind of flexibility that next gen loopers like the againinator will excel at. > More like: > > 10 goto 10 > > It -is- a looper, after all... > > gh > > > --- jim palmer wrote: > > and here's a bit of the source code if you want to recompile: > > > > 10 GoSub TastyGroove > > 20 go to 10 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 12:51:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23470; Thu, 30 May 2002 12:50:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:50:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20020530164921.64239.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Meyers Subject: Re: Earthly Delights-Boston-5/30 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you are in uncle sammy? no kidding, you guys are great! i discovered you guys through addison groove project! --- Brian O'Connell wrote:

My side project Earthly Delights (I usually play bass and Warr Guitar in Uncle Sammy) will be playing at Emily's in Bostonon Thursday, 5/30. Emily's is located on Winter Street right off of the Park Street T stop. Earthly Delights incorporates influences of world, trip hop, jazz and your basic old fasion american experimentalism. The instrumentation includes Warr Guitar (stick), bass, processed trumpet, drums, loops and samples. So come on down and enjoy some new music in Boston and check out a great little club with a nice vibe.

Emily's website: http://www.weseatyou.com/restaurants/700/emilys/intronet.htm

Brian O'Connell
1128 Commonwealth Ave. #6
Allston, MA 02134
617-277-2431

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__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 14:24:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30444; Thu, 30 May 2002 14:22:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:22:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c20806$ba034e40$862e2697@o4z6b8> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Subject: Fernandez Sustainer guitars Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 20:20:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C20817.7D1E4140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Messaggio in formato MIME composto da piů parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C20817.7D1E4140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. Is anyone of you using the fernandez sustainer guitars? I've = found one used (the revolver pro 7 string) and was wondering if the = system attack time could be somehow modified via some trimmer or in some = other way (I like the kind of works Michael Brook does with his infinite = guitar system and his sustain attack time seems to be way shorter than = that of the fernandez guitar). I already like the sound of the guitar, = but being able to set the attack time would be an added value to the = sustainer system, I think. thanx in advance for your replies. Peace Luigi ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C20817.7D1E4140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all. Is anyone of you using the = fernandez=20 sustainer guitars? I've found one used (the revolver pro 7 string) and = was=20 wondering if the system attack time could be somehow modified via some = trimmer=20 or in some other way (I like the kind of works Michael Brook does with = his=20 infinite guitar system and his sustain attack time seems to be way = shorter=20 than that of the fernandez guitar). I already like the sound of the = guitar, but=20 being able to set the attack time would be an added value to the = sustainer=20 system, I think.
thanx in advance for your = replies.
 
Peace
Luigi
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C20817.7D1E4140-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 16:33:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07222; Thu, 30 May 2002 16:32:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:32:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [67.104.22.70] From: "matt davignon" To: people@things.com Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, rumori@detritus.net Subject: 1-Person band show at 21 Grand Sun. 6/2 Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:31:43 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2002 20:31:44.0061 (UTC) FILETIME=[033206D0:01C20819] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com MULTI-INSTRUMENTALISTS GALORE! RUBE GOLDBERG TACTICS! ETC! Radio Shock- disco-democore from toys, archaic keyboards, from NYC! Qoqol- sometimes viewed as figurehead for hedonistic/zionistic tendencies and shit Autis Toole- one-woman circus of music and noise Tape Recorder- field recordings re-collaged into strange new information! Here are the details: Sunday, June 2nd - 7pm 21 Grand 449 B 23rd St. (btw. Broadway & Telegraph) Oakland, CA $5-10 List of performers: Radio Shock | Tape Recorder | Autis Toole | qoqol I hope to see you there! -Jason http://efmm.org | http://www.mp3.com/qoqol Map: http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=449+23rd+St.&csz=oakland%2C+ca&Country=us&Get%A0Map=Get+Map _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 16:58:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08454; Thu, 30 May 2002 16:57:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:57:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF6914E.D6B7D9A2@altruistmusic.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:53:34 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Silence is Deafening References: <3CF5C9D4.CC310138@vtx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com How strange... Usually this list is all too happy about the prospect of "long delay times." ...ahem. (LoopIV is right around the corner... Seriously.) --Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 18:55:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16509; Thu, 30 May 2002 18:54:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:54:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: The Silence is Deafening Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 15:41:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3CF6914E.D6B7D9A2@altruistmusic.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > (LoopIV is right around the corner... Seriously.) > Of a city block, or the Cape of Good Hope?...just kidding From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 19:30:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18957; Thu, 30 May 2002 19:28:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:28:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: The Upgrade is Coming--Although Some Enjoy it Already Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:28:41 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com See, I knew I could count on the voices of the technologically hungry! I know everything that can be done is being done--heck, there's money due for years of work invested in this upgrade, and it WILL be sold--I just wanted to point out that there is a certain anticipation reflected in the lack of posts on this list. I appreciate what information has been shared thus far, and look forward to further enlightenment. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Neil Goldstein [mailto:ngold@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:41 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: The Silence is Deafening > > (LoopIV is right around the corner... Seriously.) > Of a city block, or the Cape of Good Hope?...just kidding From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 21:56:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA29359; Thu, 30 May 2002 21:55:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:55:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF6D7CE.1B87792C@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:54:22 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Powered PA speakers? References: <000001c207f3$cf742d20$5610d0cf@GEORGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8onYZD.A.JKH.Zft98@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey gang, I've been doing small shows with a pair of Peavey KB60 keyboard amps. They actually seem to do a pretty good job, and they were very inexpensive at a time when I was very broke. I've played a few gigs lately where they were using the Mackie SRM 450s, and each time I've thought to my self, "gee those sound damn good." Are they really worth it? So here's my question, are they the best deal around? I'm hoping for nothing bigger, and the polycarbonate cabs will probably do wonders for my back (the Peavey's would make wonderful boat anchors) At $700 a piece, they're a bit pricey. I see the JBL Eon 15 going for $400/per. Has anyone done a comparison? If the main issues are wattage, I'm more interested in quality. The 60w Peaveys have been fine for the small places I tend to play (cafes, parties) Yamaha and Behringer also have similar products in the $400 range. Any opinions? I just have a feeling I'll have a hard time at a music shop trying to make comparisons over the din of Stairway to Halen and I know this bunch is pretty discerning when it comes to sound quality. Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 22:50:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00554; Thu, 30 May 2002 22:49:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:49:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008e01c2084d$ae74a820$0100a8c0@MARCSDESKTOP> From: "Marc Roche" To: References: <000001c207f3$cf742d20$5610d0cf@GEORGE> <3CF6D7CE.1B87792C@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Powered PA speakers? Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:48:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <00PxK.A.JI.SSu98@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Mark, I've had a pair of SRM 450s for three years now. I paid $625 each. They replaced two Eon 15s. I think I can say without reservation that they're one of the best investments I've made in gear. I don't expect I'll need to replace them for a long, long time. Singing through them is such a joy, they're so transparent. I've used them for synths, acoustic guitar and vocals in small venues.. Ciao, Marc Roche ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:54 PM Subject: Powered PA speakers? > Hey gang, > > I've been doing small shows with a pair of Peavey KB60 keyboard amps. > They actually seem to do a pretty good job, and they were very > inexpensive at a time when I was very broke. I've played a few gigs > lately where they were using the Mackie SRM 450s, and each time I've > thought to my self, "gee those sound damn good." Are they really worth > it? > > So here's my question, are they the best deal around? I'm hoping for > nothing bigger, and the polycarbonate cabs will probably do wonders for > my back (the Peavey's would make wonderful boat anchors) At $700 a > piece, they're a bit pricey. I see the JBL Eon 15 going for $400/per. > Has anyone done a comparison? If the main issues are wattage, I'm more > interested in quality. The 60w Peaveys have been fine for the small > places I tend to play (cafes, parties) > > Yamaha and Behringer also have similar products in the $400 range. Any > opinions? > > I just have a feeling I'll have a hard time at a music shop trying to > make comparisons over the din of Stairway to Halen and I know this bunch > is pretty discerning when it comes to sound quality. > > Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 30 23:27:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03877; Thu, 30 May 2002 23:26:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 23:26:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 20:26:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Powered PA speakers? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <008e01c2084d$ae74a820$0100a8c0@MARCSDESKTOP> Message-Id: <2258B674-7446-11D6-BBD1-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for the info. I stopped at a nearby Guitar Center (why not change the name to music center?) in hopes of a/b comparing them (Mackie SRM 450) against the Eon 15s, and I came to the exact same conclusion that you did! So much better, not even a contest. And that with a pair of metal guitarists finding the volume output of a Marshall amp. You can always count on some things. $625/ea? where did you get that price? It's better than I've seen anywhere. Thanks, Mark Sottilaro On Thursday, May 30, 2002, at 07:48 PM, Marc Roche wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I've had a pair of SRM 450s for three years now. I paid $625 each. They > replaced two Eon 15s. I think I can say without reservation that > they're one > of the best investments I've made in gear. I don't expect I'll need to > replace them for a long, long time. Singing through them is such a joy, > they're so transparent. I've used them for synths, acoustic guitar and > vocals in small venues.. > Ciao, > > Marc Roche > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sottilaro" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:54 PM > Subject: Powered PA speakers? > > >> Hey gang, >> >> I've been doing small shows with a pair of Peavey KB60 keyboard amps. >> They actually seem to do a pretty good job, and they were very >> inexpensive at a time when I was very broke. I've played a few gigs >> lately where they were using the Mackie SRM 450s, and each time I've >> thought to my self, "gee those sound damn good." Are they really worth >> it? >> >> So here's my question, are they the best deal around? I'm hoping for >> nothing bigger, and the polycarbonate cabs will probably do wonders for >> my back (the Peavey's would make wonderful boat anchors) At $700 a >> piece, they're a bit pricey. I see the JBL Eon 15 going for $400/per. >> Has anyone done a comparison? If the main issues are wattage, I'm more >> interested in quality. The 60w Peaveys have been fine for the small >> places I tend to play (cafes, parties) >> >> Yamaha and Behringer also have similar products in the $400 range. Any >> opinions? >> >> I just have a feeling I'll have a hard time at a music shop trying to >> make comparisons over the din of Stairway to Halen and I know this >> bunch >> is pretty discerning when it comes to sound quality. >> >> Mark Sottilaro > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 00:06:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA06937; Fri, 31 May 2002 00:05:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 00:05:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c20858$538f7510$0100a8c0@MARCSDESKTOP> From: "Marc Roche" To: References: <2258B674-7446-11D6-BBD1-00039313A494@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Powered PA speakers? Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:04:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <6Z8RGC.A.yrB.rZv98@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > $625/ea? where did you get that price? It's better than I've seen > anywhere. I got them at my local Musicians Friend (Eugene OR) which became Guitar center. I had to hassel them...you know how it goes. You shouldn't have any trouble to get them down to $650 each. Good luck. Marc Roche From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 05:54:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA26585; Fri, 31 May 2002 05:52:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 05:52:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c20888$e2f6e140$2d61f93f@global> From: "Rick Walker/Loop.pooL" To: References: <200205310327.XAA03950@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: Powered Speakers Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 02:47:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Mark,and everybody, I own a pair of the Mackie powered monitors (with only 12" woofers) and I can honestly say, they have changed my life. They are so accurate that you can mix a recording with impunity on them. We used them as the only P.A. during our World's First Bass Looping Tour with Michael Manring and l.d.ers Steve Lawson and Max Valentino, including a gig at the 700 seat and cavernous Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz. I have A-Bed them with the JBL Eons and the difference is night and day...........you truly do get what you pay for. The Mackies' are considerably more accurate. The Eons are a little louder, but I have never turned my Mackies up past 12 o'clock and that was blisteringly loud. I can't say enough positive things about these speakers. Hell, yes I can................... ;-) They are lightweight, compact, made of durable plastic (the exteriors) and you don't have to lug around a 500 watt amplifier................the difference I've notice to my back alone makes them worth the price of admission. I have to say, also, that I do not miss the subwoofer at all.............they go to 40 cycles with a lot of clarity. Thumbs up, Mark................buy 'em!!!! yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 11:30:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15554; Fri, 31 May 2002 11:29:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:29:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.200.129.67] Reply-To: "Jon Wagner" From: "Jon Wagner" To: References: <000001c207f3$cf742d20$5610d0cf@GEORGE> <3CF6D7CE.1B87792C@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Powered PA speakers? Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:28:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2002 15:28:24.0052 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD8ECB40:01C208B7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > inexpensive at a time when I was very broke. I've played a few gigs > lately where they were using the Mackie SRM 450s, and each time I've I have to second Rick's posting of joy. After doing the first ever mountain view looping festival with Rick (who brought his SRM450's) I knew that this was just what I needed. When I had the money, I bought one and I can honestly say that this speaker is a true innovation. I've actually found the one mono SRM450 to sound clearer and more accurate than my roommate's expensive living room stereo system! Most people wouldn't believe that you could do an accurate mix on a PA speaker, but these speakers really are good enough (not for a high end studio quality mix - duh). In terms of sound quality, I've found that the mackies have two things that I have never heard in other PA's in the price range: wide dispersion angle, and equal phasing across the freq. spectrum. This makes a huge differnence - especially in difficult rooms. anyway, enough, you get the picture. Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 11:41:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16218; Fri, 31 May 2002 11:40:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:40:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:38:52 EDT Subject: Re: Powered PA speakers? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey mark.....i use the mackie srm 450s and i have been very pleased with them, their weight is directly proportionate to my age.....i got them for both playing gigs and to use as my studio (stereo) speakers, in the studio they have to be played a bit too loud to get to their true range (turn it down dad!).....to my ear they are pretty colorless so they are great for mixing, you get what you hear.....i like em!.....i can not compare them to other speakers out there, when they were mentioned on the list in the past, they were given fairly excellent reports so i just bought them sight unheard (no comparisons).....they seem extreemly sturdy so i feel very relaxed about giging with them.....good luck in your hunt.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 11:46:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16573; Fri, 31 May 2002 11:45:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:45:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WM-Posted-At: mail.revenue.state.il.us; Fri, 31 May 02 10:55:13 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.1 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:44:17 -0500 From: "KEVIN SIMONSON" To: Subject: Re: Powered PA speakers? -Motion sound? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Has anyone attempted using either Motion Sound's KBR-3D or the new KP200s? They seem to be an interesting possible all-in-one stereo solution. (although they do seem a bit heavy per the specs). -K >>> Nemoguitt@aol.com 05/31/02 10:38AM >>> hey mark.....i use the mackie srm 450s and i have been very pleased with them, their weight is directly proportionate to my age.....i got them for both playing gigs and to use as my studio (stereo) speakers, in the studio they have to be played a bit too loud to get to their true range (turn it down dad!).....to my ear they are pretty colorless so they are great for mixing, you get what you hear.....i like em!.....i can not compare them to other speakers out there, when they were mentioned on the list in the past, they were given fairly excellent reports so i just bought them sight unheard (no comparisons).....they seem extreemly sturdy so i feel very relaxed about giging with them.....good luck in your hunt.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 11:50:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16935; Fri, 31 May 2002 11:49:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:49:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:49:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Powered Speakers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <002a01c20888$e2f6e140$2d61f93f@global> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Oh man! You're killing me guys! ;^) Why don't you just pick me up and drag me to a music shop? WHY DON'T'CHA? but more importantly, thank you all for your advise. I sure do hate it when the cheap thing isn't as good as the expensive thing. Mark Checking To See if His IRS Refund Got Direct Deposited Sottilaro On Friday, May 31, 2002, at 02:47 AM, Rick Walker/Loop.pooL wrote: > Dear Mark,and everybody, > > I own a pair of the Mackie powered monitors (with only 12" woofers) > and I > can honestly say, they have changed my life. > They are so accurate that you can mix a recording with impunity on them. > > We used them as the only P.A. during our World's First Bass Looping Tour > with Michael Manring and l.d.ers Steve Lawson and > Max Valentino, including a gig at the 700 seat and cavernous Rio > Theatre in > Santa Cruz. > > I have A-Bed them with the JBL Eons and the difference is night and > day...........you truly do get what you pay for. > The Mackies' are considerably more accurate. The Eons are a little > louder, > but I have never turned my Mackies up past > 12 o'clock and that was blisteringly loud. > > I can't say enough positive things about these speakers. > > Hell, yes I can................... ;-) > > They are lightweight, compact, made of durable plastic (the exteriors) > and > you don't have to lug around a 500 watt amplifier................the > difference I've notice to my back alone makes them worth the price of > admission. > > I have to say, also, that I do not miss the subwoofer at > all.............they go to 40 cycles with a lot of clarity. > > > Thumbs up, Mark................buy 'em!!!! > > yours, Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 11:57:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17331; Fri, 31 May 2002 11:56:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:56:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [12.34.119.151] From: "Louis Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Power Amps... Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:55:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2002 15:55:47.0902 (UTC) FILETIME=[A15E65E0:01C208BB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Can someone suggest a clean power amp for my chapman stick setup please? Looking for 50-75 watts per channel Thanks LOU _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 12:13:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19086; Fri, 31 May 2002 12:12:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:12:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:11:46 -0600 Subject: ACID for Mac From: Daniel Garfinkel To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com is there anything quite as cool as ACID for mac? Is there someone who has magicly ported it to mac? OS 9 or Xim going crazy becaus eim broke and im tired of being unable to get anything good for free. please help! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 12:21:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19680; Fri, 31 May 2002 12:20:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:20:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Rainer Straschill" To: "Looper's Delight Mailing List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Loop im Park - German Loopstock? Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:20:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c208bf$05efc2d0$0601a8c0@SATAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <2x7SuB.A.LzE.5K698@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fellow loopers, triggered by the bunch of response (both on and offlist) re Loopstock, I began to wonder whether there would be interest to hold a "Loopstock clone" in Germany? This question is, of course, primarily targeted at possible performers. I actually do have a possible location in mind in München (t-u-b-e, www.t-u-b-e.de), but before enquiring with the managers in detail, I'd like to know if anyone would perform besides me... If I did completely oversleep similair activities and we do in fact have a German loopstock already, please let me know. Thanks, Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 12:25:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19946; Fri, 31 May 2002 12:24:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:24:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: ACID for Mac Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:11:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > > is there anything quite as cool as ACID for mac? Is there someone who has > magicly ported it to mac? OS 9 or Xim going crazy becaus eim broke and im > tired of being unable to get anything good for free. Live! Live! (in voice of George from Seinfeld :) www.ableton.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 12:52:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21240; Fri, 31 May 2002 12:51:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:51:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: ArsOcarina@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:49:48 EDT Subject: OT: A little French and some other recent reviews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Language: en X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA21179 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi neighbors, Ah yes, time again for one of those tiresome review posts of mine. This time I have a request for any of you French speakers out there -- could you possibly translate the first one for me? Good, bad or indifferent it'd be nice to know the gist of what they said (last time it was a real pain to find a affordable translator for Lithuanian . . . no I am not kidding). Since the CD has been out for 10 months already . . . that's in itself a sort of a testimony as to how very long it takes for things to get around when you are just another oddball geek with a guitar and none too well connected (or talented) either . . . I doubt if there will be any more of these kind of posts from me until I put out another CD (whenever the heck that'll be). At least that is my sincere hope. Time to put it to rest chucko. See you on the funway! Ted Killian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Review 1 (in French) from Jazzosphere: Ted Killian - Flux Aeterna - 1 CD pfMentum CD 007 pfMentum s'impose depuis plusieurs annĂ©es maintenant comme la structure Ă  suivre dans le milieu des musiques crĂ©atives. Label d'oĂą sont sorti quelques opus majeurs (Ganz Andere, Hear. or what, Asphalt Buddhas ou Pith Balls and Inclined Planes), pfMentum propose aussi de pĂ©nĂ©trer plus largement dans cet univers particulier par l'intermĂ©diaire d'un site web (www.newcreativemusic.com) qui regroupe tout un ensemble de textes, interviews ou essais qui facilitent l'accès de l'auditeur Ă  cette musique. Ted Killian est sans doute peu connu en Europe. Guitariste-poète, sa musique impose un rythme et un souffle d'une grande fraĂ®cheur. Sur cet album le musicien rĂ©unit dix de ses compositions qui participent toutes Ă  la construction d'un espace sombre fait de questionnements et de rĂ©flexion mais dont l'issue reste l'espoir. http://membres.lycos.fr/jazzosphere/cdnew.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Review 2 from Guitar 9: Ted Killian -- Experimental Explorations On Electric Guitar If you're looking for guitar music where you'll be searching for a stylistic reference point, but will come up empty handed, check out Ted Killian's CD Flux Aeterna. Imagine an Uli Jon Roth or Jimi Hendrix within a sonic landscape not cohabited by bass and drums, but simply with guitars and amps set to feedback mercilessly (oh yeah, and add a heaping helping of samples, loops and other sonic mayhem). Creativity with a capital 'C' is what we've got here, but it won't peak everyone's interest of course. That may not be the artist's desire though. Killian is walking his own path with these ten instrumentals; within the structure of what he's established however, he does do his job with conviction, tenacity and confidence, which are important elements to have in order to enjoy work that's constantly breaking down your preconceptions and shattering barriers. The highly overdriven tones on songs such as "Cauterant Baptism" and "Hubble" may frighten children and small rodents, but others will find it just what Dr. Ted Nugent ordered (if this reference escapes you, look for late '70s footage of Nugent bowing before a wildly out-of-control amp). Born and raised in sunny Southern California, Ted has played guitar for over 38 years and has never managed to learn how to do it correctly. But, as it turns out, this may have turned out to be a pretty good thing. Without necessarily having set out to do so, Ted has found his own unique "voice" on an instrument that is nearly ubiquitous in modern popular music. Killian began playing and experimenting early on, but (in terms of public performance) bloomed late. Beginning in the late 1980s, he began performing his original music in conjunction with the Ventura New Music Concert Series (Southern California) - aided by close friend and colleague, avant-jazz trumpeter, Jeff Kaiser. So began a long series of ever-changing concerts and presentations all around Southern California. Ted has been interviewed as a featured composer on "Music of the Americas" on KPFK radio in Los Angeles. Since the debut of Flux Aeterna his music has been played on literally dozens of radio stations around the globe and has garnered critical praise in as many publications internationally. In recent years, Killian has composed music for ballet, "fixed" gallery installations, multi-disciplinary art performances, large ensembles and small groups. And, after all of this, he has still somehow managed to avoid having ever been in anything resembling a "band." http://www.guitar9.com/undiscov37c.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Review 3 from Rent Romus, Bay Area Improvisors Network: Guitarists are a dime a dozen in the pop world, but when you go further out into exploration like Ted Killian, commonality is replaced with unique sound. Thus said, I was happy to receive this new CD from Ventura rebel label pfMentum. It's great to hear another voice in the world of experimental electric guitar done so well. Killian utilizes both his superb skills as a musician on electronics as well as guitar. He interfaces the two seamlessly to create a powerful and unique voice to the known fair we've come to expect from other players such as Nels Cline. This CD has made it quite clear that rock is not dead it just got cloned and reconstructed before it's original was gutted by the music industry. Killian creates a full musical adventure with ten cuts of thematic tunes ranging from rhythmic scream sessions to all out grooves digging deep into the history of the guitar. He even makes an interesting musical reference to a famous Jimi Hendrix performance one summer in the late sixties, and I would swear I hear some Sun Ra in there as well (though I may be tripping). What I love about the improvised scene growing throughout the world is the abolishment of specific styles that continue to eat away at the artistic status quo. I'd say if you have an open ear to electric guitar exploration with appreciation for the hard core, you'd want to get this one. Flux Aeterna is another nail in the coffin of pop sensibilities, and I thank Mr. Killian for that. http://www.bayimproviser.com/interviewdetail.asp?interview_id=12 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Review 4 from Matt Borghi, All Music Guide: Ted Killian's Flux Aeterna begins with a eerily apocalyptic electric guitar solo that in places seems to quote parts of Jimi Hendrix' by now world-famous rendition of "The Star-Spangled Banner" from 1969's Woodstock Music Festival. With the first track as a point of departure, Killian moves through a series of compositions where the guitar plays the main role, while surrounded by a variety of synthesized harmonic tapestries. For the most part, though, the guitar is the primary melodic instrument on Flux Aeterna, and really shows Killian experimenting with it in a lot of new ways. In places, this recording sounds like the work of Robert Fripp and King Crimson, and in other places there's strangely experimental work going on that's reminiscent of Brian Eno, and even some of John Cage's work. However, one thing is certain: Ted Killian has created a fantastic disc that truly creates a new harmonic vocabulary both for the guitar and for the guitar as background and foreground instrument. Guitar players in particular should pay special attention to this recording, but if you're looking for a recording that seems to be slightly -- very slightly -- tinged with an 1980s synthesizer sound (as well as a very unique guitar sound), then this is certainly a fantastic recording. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A5ho7gjvr36ib ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Review 5 from Guitar Player's Matt Blackett: Ted Killian, Flux Aeterna. Feedback shreiks and EBow howls over hypnotic grooves add up to a great soundtrack for a ba dream. pfMetum -- MB July 2002 issue "Quick Hits" (p.104) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hard to believe, but there are actually radio stations playing ”Flux Aeterna” from time to time (in the wee hour I'll bet). KUCI.88.9 FM Irvine,CA—USA KCSB 91.9 FM Santa Barbara, CA—USA KZSU 90.1 FM Stanford, CA—USA KDVS 90.3 FM Davis, CA—USA KFJC 89.7 FM Los Altos Hills, CA—USA WPKN 89.5 FM Bridgeport, CT—USA WHUS 91.7 FM Storrs, CT—USA WOMR 92.1 FM Provincetown, MA—USA WXYC 89.3 FM Chapel Hill, NC—USA WNCW 88.7 FM Spindale NC—USA KDSU 91.9 FM Fargo, ND—USA WSIA 88.9 FM Staten Island, NY—USA KLCC 89.7 FM Eugene OR—USA KTRU 91.7 FM Houston, TX—USA KBCS 91.3 FM Bellevue, WA—USA WSUM 91.7 FM Madison, WI—USA WORT-FM 89.9 Madison WI—USA CKUT 90.3 FM Montreal, Quebec—Canada CFLX 95.5 FM Sherbrooke, QuĂ©bec—Canada CJAM 91.5 FM Windsor, Ontario—Canada CIUT 89.5 FM Toronto, Ontario—Canada 3D Radio 93.7FM Adelaide—Australia RTR 92.1 FM Perth—Western Australia FRK 105.8 FM Kassel—Germany RCV 99 FM Lille—France 90.1 FM Sens—France RCV 100.4 FM Barcelona—Spain RF 91.5 FM Barcelona—Spain KAPSAI FM 100.2 Marijampole—Lithuania Anywho, thanks for your time. Over and out . . . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 13:01:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22771; Fri, 31 May 2002 13:00:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:00:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003e01c20892$015880e0$08f8c440@g0wn7> From: "Jimmy Fowler" To: References: Subject: Re: Power Amps... Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:57:47 +0100 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com try the vht 2/502 and 2/90/2 i use the 2/90/2 and i play super clean. it's right up my alley...all tube, not too big (2u) and PLENTY loud. i got mine for a grand brand new but i'm sure you can get one for a couple hundred less one ebay. -jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 13:03:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22954; Fri, 31 May 2002 13:02:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:02:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:01:24 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: A little French and some other recent reviews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <04ea01c208c4$cbc89e50$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: <4ExQqD.A.NmF.lx698@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > ... > Ah yes, time again for one of those tiresome review posts of > mine. This time I have a request for any of you French speakers > out there -- could you possibly translate the first one for me? >... have you tried here? http://www.freetranslation.com/ far from perfect, but you can get the gist anyway... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 13:08:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23200; Fri, 31 May 2002 13:08:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:08:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Dylan DeAnda" To: Subject: RE: Mark Isham looping in L.A. Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:05:40 -0400 Organization: Loudcloud, Inc. Message-ID: <001401c208c5$647da2d0$6142a8c0@dyland> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mark Isham (The trumpet player right?) uses a DJ? This is inspiring to me, since my aspiration is to get integrated with a live band, as opposed to doing solo scratch-loop compositions. Any other Jazz based folks out there using DJs? D Thanks and best regards, Dylan DeAnda dylan@loudcloud.com 703-653-6883 "What is it men cannot be made to believe!" -Thomas Jefferson -----Original Message----- From: Louis Rossi [mailto:tarbit@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:39 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mark Isham looping in L.A. Hi Cliff, That line up sounds cool. I got to see Isham in NYC a few years back . It was during the "silent way project" He was using a Vox wah, Jam Man & TC Electronic G-force. Great sounds off the trumpet & the band were great too. I hope he returns here again soon. Cheers LOU >From: "Om_Audio" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Mark Isham looping in L.A. >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 00:07:42 -0700 > >I just got home from a Mark Isham show here in L.A. Just like the time I >saw him a few years ago it was fantastic. And of course I got there >late- naps take precedence! ;) He was using an E-Mu Esx sampler with a >Buchla Thunder controller- and also a Ground Controller for I don't know >what. A new addition was a Repeater- it was on top of a Korg Trinity >which was on top of a Fender 78 Rhodes. Repeater controlled by a FS-300- >mainly catching keyboard riffs- midi synced to a Mac laptop running >Logic- which had a Oxygen 2oct controller hooked up as well. > > > >Nels Cline on guitar- always awesome- always looping- > >Drummer/Percussionist > >DJ/Computer operator > >Singer > > > >Looping is here to stay. Yay. > > > >Cliff > > > >http://www.om-studios.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 13:38:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24233; Fri, 31 May 2002 13:37:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:37:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001c01c208c9$bc0ccf40$adb84e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: A little French and some other recent reviews Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:36:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA24173 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ted requested a translation of the following: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Killian - Flux Aeterna - 1 CD pfMentum CD 007 pfMentum s'impose depuis plusieurs annĂ©es maintenant comme la structure Ă  suivre dans le milieu des musiques crĂ©atives. Label d'oĂą sont sorti quelques opus majeurs (Ganz Andere, Hear. or what, Asphalt Buddhas ou Pith Balls and Inclined Planes), pfMentum propose aussi de pĂ©nĂ©trer plus largement dans cet univers particulier par l'intermĂ©diaire d'un site web (www.newcreativemusic.com) qui regroupe tout un ensemble de textes, interviews ou essais qui facilitent l'accès de l'auditeur Ă  cette musique. Ted Killian est sans doute peu connu en Europe. Guitariste-poète, sa musique impose un rythme et un souffle d'une grande fraĂ®cheur. Sur cet album le musicien rĂ©unit dix de ses compositions qui participent toutes Ă  la construction d'un espace sombre fait de questionnements et de rĂ©flexion mais dont l'issue reste l'espoir. http://membres.lycos.fr/jazzosphere/cdnew.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- My French is not the best, but here goes: "Ted Killian - Flux Aeterna - 1 CD pfMentum CD 007 pfMentum asserts itself now after several years as a format to follow in creative music. The label where the kind of great works such as Ganz Andere, Hear. or what, Asphalt Buddhas or Pith Balls and Inclined Planes have been released, pfMentum wishes also to penetrate deeper into that particular universe through a web site, (www.newcreativemusic.com) which gathers together a collection of texts, interviews and essays that make this music more accessible to the listener. Ted Killian is without a doubt little known in Europe. A guitarist-poet, his music offers a rhythm and a great breath of freshness. In this album the musician presents ten of his compositions which combine to create a gloomy space of questions and reflection, but where there's also a window of hope." Congratulations, Ted, on the very nice review(s)! Let me know when you get one in Hindi and I'll be happy to give it a go ;-) James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 13:41:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24457; Fri, 31 May 2002 13:40:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:40:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:29:22 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: ACID for Mac In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:11 AM -0600 5/31/02, Daniel Garfinkel wrote: >is there anything quite as cool as ACID for mac? Is there someone who has >magicly ported it to mac? OS 9 or Xim going crazy becaus eim broke and im >tired of being unable to get anything good for free. Check out the latest Electronic Musician for a comparison of seven loop sequencers for Mac and PC: http://industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazineid=33&releaseid=10207&magazinearticleid=149006&siteid=15 Also a review of Ableton Live 1.1: http://industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazineid=33&releaseid=10207&magazinearticleid=149011&siteid=15 The price of high-performance Mac loopdom is around $300. RadiaL from Cycling74 will be about $200, but it hasn't been released yet. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 13:42:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24587; Fri, 31 May 2002 13:41:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:41:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:40:37 EDT Subject: Re: OT: A little French and some other recent reviews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e6.28c7ce1e.2a290f95_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e6.28c7ce1e.2a290f95_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/31/02 12:51:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ArsOcarina@aol.com writes: > Ted Killian est sans > doute peu connu en Europe. i couldnt agree more!.....huh?.....great stuff ted.....michael --part1_e6.28c7ce1e.2a290f95_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/31/02 12:51:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ArsOcarina@aol.com writes:


Ted Killian est sans
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i couldnt agree more!.....huh?.....great stuff ted.....michael --part1_e6.28c7ce1e.2a290f95_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 13:52:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25321; Fri, 31 May 2002 13:51:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:51:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: ArsOcarina@aol.com Message-ID: <141.f3f786c.2a2911d6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:50:14 EDT Subject: Re: A little French and some other recent reviews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jim, In a message dated 5/31/02 10:01:46 AM, jimp@pobox.com writes: >http://www.freetranslation.com/ No, I hadn't. But I will. Thanks! Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 14:30:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28150; Fri, 31 May 2002 14:28:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:28:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <200205312031330840.001D2B1F@smtp.web.de> X-Mailer: Calypso Lite Version 3.00.01.02 (2) Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:31:33 +0200 From: "David Kuckhermann" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re:Loop im Park - German Loopstock? and self introduction Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: david.kuck@web.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA28113 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi! Sounds like a good idea to me, I would be interestedin performing. By the way, I´m new to the list. I use a repeater and a line6. I play a lot of different perrcussion, indian, persian, brasilien, cuban...I study music in the netherlands and in loop shows I also use a lot of "sounds" from anything which is around. I work a lot with modern dance. Nice to be part of the list... All the best, David Kuckhermann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 14:50:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29786; Fri, 31 May 2002 14:49:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:49:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <018801c208d3$b6d59ed0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <200205312031330840.001D2B1F@smtp.web.de> Subject: Re: re:Loop im Park - German Loopstock? and self introduction Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:48:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Welcome, David! There are several percussionists here. Good to have another one! [Can you tell I'm one too?] Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kuckhermann" To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:31 PM Subject: re:Loop im Park - German Loopstock? and self introduction > Hi! > > Sounds like a good idea to me, I would be interestedin performing. By the way, I´m new to the list. I use a repeater and a line6. I play a lot of different perrcussion, indian, persian, brasilien, cuban...I study music in the netherlands and in loop shows I also use a lot of "sounds" from anything which is around. I work a lot with modern dance. Nice to be part of the list... > > > All the best, > > David Kuckhermann > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 16:13:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03493; Fri, 31 May 2002 16:12:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:12:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3CF7D989.AA78B437@friendlyspider.com> Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:14:05 -0500 From: Gary Phillips Reply-To: gary@friendlyspider.com Organization: friendlyspider.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Power Amps... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3Gihg.A._1.Ok998@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I like my Hafler TA1600.....no fan, stays cool with heat sinks.... I use it with acoustic guitar and general PA....Excellent price..... -- gary @friendlyspider.com Louis Rossi wrote: > Can someone suggest a clean power amp for my chapman stick setup please? > Looking for 50-75 watts per channel > > Thanks > LOU > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 16:59:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06156; Fri, 31 May 2002 16:57:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:57:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC8A@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Mark Isham looping in L.A. Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:53:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C208E5.3CFDBC70" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C208E5.3CFDBC70 Content-Type: text/plain Any other Jazz based folks out there using DJs? ** i think dave douglas (trumpet/composer) has used a dj on one or two of his projects. there are probably others. i seem to remember a few things on the knitting factory works label that might qualify. also, john zorn has done some work with christian marclay, though he may be more of a "turntablist" than a dj . . . i play in a band,splinter group, headed by guitarist g.e. stinson that has a vocalist and dj-type in it. the dj guy does beats, textures and a wee bit o' scratching. the band is not exactly "jazz" per se - - more like free-range improv. g.e.'s cd vapor (ecstatic peace/smells like record) has two cuts by this band on it (it may also have a trumpet player on it, fuzzy memory here). he's currently mixing a complete album of the same band for release by a small label within the year. stig Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C208E5.3CFDBC70 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Mark Isham looping in L.A.

Any other Jazz based folks out there using DJs?


** i think dave douglas (trumpet/composer) has used a dj = on one or two of his projects.

there are probably others. i seem to remember a few thing= s on the knitting factory works label that might qualify. also, john zorn h= as done some work with christian marclay, though he may be more of a "= turntablist" than a dj . . .

i play in a band,splinter group, headed by guitarist g.e.= stinson that has a vocalist and dj-type in it. the dj guy does beats, text= ures and a wee bit o' scratching. the band is not exactly "jazz" = per se - - more like free-range improv.

g.e.'s cd vapor (ecstatic peace/smells like record) has t= wo cuts by this band on it (it may also have a trumpet player on it, fuzzy = memory here). he's currently mixing a complete album of the same band for r= elease by a small label within the year.

stig



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C208E5.3CFDBC70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 17:25:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08857; Fri, 31 May 2002 17:24:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 17:24:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:19:09 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: An introduction to myself From: Stuart Wyatt To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0BEF4E34-74DC-11D6-A65F-0003934B4712@solostring.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I've just joined the list, and would like to introduce myself. My name is Stuart Wyatt, and I'm an English electric violinist living in Paris. I play solo, live, and use an Electrix Repeater, Line6 DL4 and also various delays (when I have them working) to improvise my music. If you'd like to hear what I am up to, check out the most recent recording at http://mapage.noos.fr/swyatt/ThursdayPiece.mp3 I've been looping now for about two years, often performing on the street with just the DL4 pedal. Its my job... and I like it :) Whilst I know a fair bit about looping from my own experiences, I also have a lot to learn. Hence, this is why I am here. To learn, and also to share. For more info about what I do, please feel free to visit http://www.solostring.com So here I am :) - Stuart From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 17:25:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08869; Fri, 31 May 2002 17:24:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 17:24:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001101c208e9$5ce970c0$0801a8c0@vz.dsl.genuity.net> From: "Clifford Novey" To: References: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC8A@mitorexch01.maritz.com> Subject: Re: Mark Isham looping in L.A. Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:22:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C208AE.950A3100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C208AE.950A3100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Mark Isham looping in L.A.Mark Isham will be at the Mint again in = June- don't have the date but it is first or second week in June-=20 Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C208AE.950A3100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Mark Isham looping in L.A.
Mark Isham will be at the Mint again in June- don't = have the=20 date but it is first or second week in June-
 
Cliff
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C208AE.950A3100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 18:18:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12653; Fri, 31 May 2002 18:17:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:17:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.200.129.67] Reply-To: "Jon Wagner" From: "Jon Wagner" To: References: <200205312031330840.001D2B1F@smtp.web.de> Subject: Re: re:Loop im Park - German Loopstock? and self introduction Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:17:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2002 22:16:41.0415 (UTC) FILETIME=[D71FBD70:01C208F0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >list. I use a repeater and a line6. I play a lot of different perrcussion, indian, persian, brasilien, >cuban...I study music in the netherlands and in loop shows I also use a lot of "sounds" from Welcome! there's lots of us percussionists here. There's not a whole lot of percussion discussion (hmm, percussion discussion - not a bad song title) here but I've learned a lot from the extremely varied topics anyway! I'm sure we'll all learn a few things from you, so don't be shy - we could use some more emails about drums to balance out the "which guitar pickup is best with XXY amplifier and YYX pedal" discussions :) Jon ps. please note that I truly don't mind the "which guitar pickup is best with XXY amplifier and YYX pedal" discussions, as long as no-one else minds if we ever get into an in-depth discussion of which species of lizard produces the best skin for a Kanjira with brass jingles ... speaking of which, anyone know of a source for such a thing, I heard a rumor that the best skins are now illegal in the states? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 18:20:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12794; Fri, 31 May 2002 18:19:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:19:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:16:06 -0400 From: skincage Subject: wall wart defeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <005501c208f0$c2c8ada0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i remember that this thing exists which is basically just an extender cable for wall warts so you can plug more things into one power strip, but i can't remember the proper term or where you can get them. help, anyone? thanks! jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 18:29:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13257; Fri, 31 May 2002 18:29:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:29:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:28:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200205311828.AA2387018000@mail.unitcircle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Kevin Goldsmith" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: wall wart defeater X-Mailer: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've got some Dr. Ferd's Wall Wart Removers from Guitar Center. They're kind of expensive for what they are though. KEvin -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 18:30:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13090; Fri, 31 May 2002 18:24:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:24:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Reid, Benjamin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: re:Loop im Park - German Loopstock? and self introduction Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:23:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Think it would be benefit to everyone. My nutty drummer is constantly explaining percussion/rhythmic elements to me which ends up in things I play and I'd love to hear from other percussionists! -----Original Message----- From: Jon Wagner [mailto:jondrums@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:18 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: re:Loop im Park - German Loopstock? and self introduction >list. I use a repeater and a line6. I play a lot of different perrcussion, indian, persian, brasilien, >cuban...I study music in the netherlands and in loop shows I also use a lot of "sounds" from Welcome! there's lots of us percussionists here. There's not a whole lot of percussion discussion (hmm, percussion discussion - not a bad song title) here but I've learned a lot from the extremely varied topics anyway! I'm sure we'll all learn a few things from you, so don't be shy - we could use some more emails about drums to balance out the "which guitar pickup is best with XXY amplifier and YYX pedal" discussions :) Jon ps. please note that I truly don't mind the "which guitar pickup is best with XXY amplifier and YYX pedal" discussions, as long as no-one else minds if we ever get into an in-depth discussion of which species of lizard produces the best skin for a Kanjira with brass jingles ... speaking of which, anyone know of a source for such a thing, I heard a rumor that the best skins are now illegal in the states? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 18:41:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13830; Fri, 31 May 2002 18:40:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:40:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002901c208f4$2c948ad0$8628a8c0@CAMPBEBOWIN2K> From: "Bob Campbell" To: "skincage" , References: <005501c208f0$c2c8ada0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Subject: Re: wall wart defeater Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:40:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Radio Shack sells cheap little 6" extension cords that let me plug a couple of wall warts's in each socket on the power strip. The local stores have em sometimes, the salesfolk never know about em. ----- Original Message ----- From: "skincage" To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: wall wart defeater > i remember that this thing exists which is basically just an extender cable for wall warts so > you can plug more things into one power strip, but i can't remember the proper term or where > you can get them. help, anyone? thanks! > > jon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 18:59:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14488; Fri, 31 May 2002 18:53:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:53:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <200206010056190890.001004F9@smtp.web.de> In-Reply-To: <0BEF4E34-74DC-11D6-A65F-0003934B4712@solostring.com> References: <0BEF4E34-74DC-11D6-A65F-0003934B4712@solostring.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Lite Version 3.00.01.02 (2) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 00:56:19 +0200 From: "David Kuckhermann" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: An introduction to myself Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: david.kuck@web.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id SAA14445 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Steward! First of all, welcome (but I also just joined). I´m a little bit into street music also, but usually with another pecussionist. How do you manage to use the line 6 out there? with the power and speaker and so on? All the best, David *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 31.05.02 at 23:19 Stuart Wyatt wrote: >Hi, > >I've just joined the list, and would like to introduce myself. > >My name is Stuart Wyatt, and I'm an English electric violinist living in >Paris. I play solo, live, and use an Electrix Repeater, Line6 DL4 and >also various delays (when I have them working) to improvise my music. > >If you'd like to hear what I am up to, check out the most recent >recording at http://mapage.noos.fr/swyatt/ThursdayPiece.mp3 > >I've been looping now for about two years, often performing on the >street with just the DL4 pedal. Its my job... and I like it :) > >Whilst I know a fair bit about looping from my own experiences, I also >have a lot to learn. Hence, this is why I am here. To learn, and also to >share. > >For more info about what I do, please feel free to visit >http://www.solostring.com > >So here I am :) > >- Stuart From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 19:02:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16183; Fri, 31 May 2002 19:01:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:01:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <200206010104010540.00171093@smtp.web.de> In-Reply-To: References: <200205312031330840.001D2B1F@smtp.web.de> X-Mailer: Calypso Lite Version 3.00.01.02 (2) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 01:04:01 +0200 From: "David Kuckhermann" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: re:Loop im Park - German Loopstock? and self introduction Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: david.kuck@web.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id TAA16144 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi! Jup, not only in the states, also in india the lizards which where hunted for the kanjira skin are protected now. It´s already quite difficult to get kanjiras and I decided to go for the remo one, which has a plastic skin, but of course doesnt sound as good as a real one. All the best, David *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** which species of lizard >produces the best skin for a Kanjira with brass jingles ... speaking of >which, anyone know of a source for such a thing, I heard a rumor that the >best skins are now illegal in the states? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 19:38:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17733; Fri, 31 May 2002 19:37:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:37:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "M. Steven Ginn" To: Subject: RE: An introduction to myself Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:37:11 -0500 Message-ID: <00e301c208fc$16078e90$420e88cf@stevespc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <0BEF4E34-74DC-11D6-A65F-0003934B4712@solostring.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Welcome Stuart ... Any part of your influence coming from Jean Luc Ponty? :-) Steve > > Hi, > > I've just joined the list, and would like to introduce myself. > > My name is Stuart Wyatt, and I'm an English electric > violinist living in > Paris. I play solo, live, and use an Electrix Repeater, Line6 DL4 and > also various delays (when I have them working) to improvise my music. > > If you'd like to hear what I am up to, check out the most recent > recording at http://mapage.noos.fr/swyatt/ThursdayPiece.mp3 > > I've been looping now for about two years, often performing on the > street with just the DL4 pedal. Its my job... and I like it :) > > Whilst I know a fair bit about looping from my own > experiences, I also > have a lot to learn. Hence, this is why I am here. To learn, > and also to > share. > > For more info about what I do, please feel free to visit > http://www.solostring.com > > So here I am :) > > - Stuart > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 19:42:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17952; Fri, 31 May 2002 19:42:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:42:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <5F558325FAAED51190EF00508BBE34D00148CC93@mitorexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: An introduction to myself Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:41:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C208FC.C10CFD70" Resent-Message-ID: <26ysvC.A.9XE.zoA-8@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C208FC.C10CFD70 Content-Type: text/plain i noticed that you're playing a 7-string violin??? what's the tuning? can you describe what you do musically? tonal, non-tonal; improv, written, combination thereof . . . stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C208FC.C10CFD70 Content-Type: text/html RE: An introduction to myself

i noticed that you're playing a 7-string violin??? what's the tuning?

can you describe what you do musically? tonal, non-tonal; improv, written, combination thereof . . .

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C208FC.C10CFD70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 21:24:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24224; Fri, 31 May 2002 21:23:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:23:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:19:55 -0400 From: skincage Subject: Re: wall wart defeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: skincage Message-id: <00b401c2090a$7046b440$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <005501c208f0$c2c8ada0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> <002901c208f4$2c948ad0$8628a8c0@CAMPBEBOWIN2K> Resent-Message-ID: <6cRh3C.A.C6F.kHC-8@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey thanks! i just cleaned out the RS down the street. 3 for under $5. not bad! might not be the best but hey, i'm doing noise, who am i kidding about fidelity hairsplitting? one last thing, is it safe to plug two transformers in per extender? i don't know enough about AC, and i really don't want to be pushing it. much obliged to everyone who offered suggestions! jon > Radio Shack sells cheap little 6" extension cords that let me plug a couple > of wall warts's in each socket on the power strip. The local stores have em > sometimes, the salesfolk never know about em. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 21:33:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24690; Fri, 31 May 2002 21:32:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:32:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:36:55 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: just john Subject: Would it be unforgivably crass of me ... Resent-Message-ID: <1nBo0.A.FBG.pQC-8@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ... if I mentioned here that a couple hours ago I discovered an album of mine (with looping content, naturally) made the Canadian college radio charts? See http://www.earshot-online.com/charts/2002/4-200.html Scroll down to 127. --- * just-john@just-john.com http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 22:20:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27499; Fri, 31 May 2002 22:19:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 22:19:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020531221456.00a88810@www.dreamstate.to> X-Sender: scott%dreamstate.to@www.dreamstate.to X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 22:19:55 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Scott McGregor Moore Subject: Re: wall wart defeater In-Reply-To: <002901c208f4$2c948ad0$8628a8c0@CAMPBEBOWIN2K> References: <005501c208f0$c2c8ada0$63483144@nrockv01.md.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A great discovery for me was a BELKIN power bar with 10 AC inputs, all spaced for wall warts with a metal case and a 15 ft. cord (which is handy but takes up much more room in the suitcase). I buy them here in Toronto at the Home Depot. Cheers, Scott M2 http://www.dreamSTATE.to ambientelectronicsoundscapes http://www.THEAMBiENTPiNG.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 31 23:01:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA30437; Fri, 31 May 2002 23:01:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:01:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.200.129.67] Reply-To: "Jon Wagner" From: "Jon Wagner" To: References: <200205312031330840.001D2B1F@smtp.web.de> <200206010104010540.00171093@smtp.web.de> Subject: Kanjira; was Re: re:Loop im Park - German Loopstock? and self introduction Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:00:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2002 02:59:47.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[63D2F530:01C20918] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Jup, not only in the states, also in india the lizards which where hunted for the kanjira skin are >protected now. It´s already quite difficult to get kanjiras and I decided to go for the remo one, >which has a plastic skin, but of course doesnt sound as good as a real one. Believe it or not, I found a real one this weekend fopr a crazy nice price, which is why I asked about the skins. I've been religously protecting it from elements and being tender playing it, but I'm about to be even more careful, based on what you said:) I have to say, though, that nothing matches the ability to tune a real skin head with water and/or heat! I guess with a remo you never have to tune it, but what's fun with that? Jon