From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:03:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA24712; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:01:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:01:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.112.149] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: udelhoven@t-online.de, peter.a@jendasign.de, upstroke@hotmail.com, mayers@gibson.com, paul-bailey@wanadoo.fr, Almut.Barz@firemail.de, FB-home@t-online.de, stealthcatt@hotmail.com, jbrainin@interactive.net, walterbruehn@netcologne.de, a.bruno@email.telpress.it, carol-callister@wanadoo.fr, luciecompton@hotmail.com, sdamdin@yahoo.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, input@digigram.com, kflint@annihilist.com, ffmusik@ffmusik.de, curtgolden@aol.com, nicolebgraham@hotmail.com, gratte@aol.com, asita@freesurf.ch, ralph.herrnkind@netcologne.de, ruedikhoffmann@t-online.de, uta.til@t-online.de, HooverA@tce.com, JTCAgency@aol.com, Heinrich_von_Kalnein@compuserve.com, uschi.laar@t-online.de, vmerg@uni-bielefeld.de, hnunez@compuserve.com, ANET@aol.com, mpeters@csi.com, PeqF@gmx.de, abi.r@t-online.de, taster@gmx.de, t.rowell@virgin.net, RudolphAx@aol.com, hscheid@hazzazar.com, peter@didgeridoings.com, techsupport@egosys.net, kaspar-hauser@gmx.li, texture444@aol.com, phantom.guitars@okay.net, Michel-Wack@t-online.de, veitwafzig@t-online.de, kuno.tap@t-online.de, uzsoi3@uni-bonn.de, Quohrenmpg@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 04:00:26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 04:00:35.0002 (UTC) FILETIME=[68EC81A0:01C0EA4F] Resent-Message-ID: <7I01rD.A.oBG.HOxF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Thanks, I am glad someone investigates this stuff... I never heed the warnings of these Virus Doomsayers, I ALWAYS check this stuff out ! Oh, have you guys seen the Email list of all the folks that got sent this crude !?!

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From: Steve Burnett
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To:
CC: UDELHOVEN , Peter Andreas , Gregor Arz , Mike Ayers , Paul Bailey , Almut Barz , Frank Berressem , Kimberlin Blackstone , Jonathan Brainin , Walter Brühn , Alessandro Bruno , Carol Callister , lucie compton , Solongo Damdin , Loopers Delight , Digigram , Kim Flint , Florian Fürst , Curt Golden , "Nicole B. Graham" , Jens Grattentaler , Asita Hamidi , Ralph Herrnkind , Rüdiger Hoffmann , Tilmann Höhn , Alan Hoover , Chris Jaeker , Heinrich von Kalnein , Uschi Laar , Vanessa Merg , Hernan Nunez , John Peters , Michael Peters , Philipp Quaet-Faslem , Abi von Reininghaus , Markus Reuter , Tony Rowell , Axel Rudolph , Hannsjoerg Scheid , Peter Spoecker , EGO SYStems , Tino , David Torn , Eduard Tüske , MIchael Wack , Veit Wafzig , Kuno Wagner , André Wirths , Frieder Zimmermann
Subject: Re: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus!
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:22:46 -0400 (EDT)
This is a hoax. Details are here:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html
best,
Steve
>At 09:53 PM 5/31/01 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>> we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in
>the
>> directory c:/windows/command/
>> We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!!
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:07:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA24977; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:05:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:05:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.112.149] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 04:04:32 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 04:04:32.0621 (UTC) FILETIME=[F68E49D0:01C0EA4F] Resent-Message-ID: <5DuC0D.A.6FG.7RxF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them.

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From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To:
Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700
Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:
"yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet
to
back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to
hear some looping..."
Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I
played the crowd in and out
in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the Rio
Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that
pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran
a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those old
red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to create
my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also
pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower melody
as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really
archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out
sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what instruments
I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the
footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some really
beautiful and mysterious sounding
artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'?
Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux
industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV
unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands
fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"? Priceless!!!!
P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit
to loving the early Cure on loopers delight?

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------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0EA29.2E07DD80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:30:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25737; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:28:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:28:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010601042835.19061.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:28:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <9P7arB.A.hRG.0nxF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > I ran > a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of > those old > red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to > create > my rhythmic loop. Rick, please describe the hungarian jaw harp. Is this metal like the traditional 'jews harps' of the usa, or made of other materials? I bought some asian 'jews harp' devices made from bamboo that have a lovely sound. I find them much easier to play than the novelty shop metal jews harps. Their tone is softer, obviously less metallic. bret __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:30:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25744; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:29:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:29:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010601042850.88052.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:28:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > I ran > a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of > those old > red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to > create > my rhythmic loop. Rick, please describe the hungarian jaw harp. Is this metal like the traditional 'jews harps' of the usa, or made of other materials? I bought some asian 'jews harp' devices made from bamboo that have a lovely sound. I find them much easier to play than the novelty shop metal jews harps. Their tone is softer, obviously less metallic. bret __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 00:53:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA26170; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:51:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:51:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C52@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" , UDELHOVEN , Peter Andreas , Gregor Arz , Mike Ayers , Paul Bailey , Almut Barz , Frank Berressem , Kimberlin Blackstone , Jonathan Brainin , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Walter_Br=FC?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?hn?= , Alessandro Bruno , Carol Callister , lucie compton , Solongo Damdin , Loopers Delight , Digigram , Kim Flint , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Florian_F=FCrst?= , Curt Golden , "Nicole B. Graham" , Jens Grattentaler , Asita Hamidi , Ralph Herrnkind , =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger_Hoffmann?= , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tilmann_H=F6hn?= , Alan Hoover , Chris Jaeker , Heinrich von Kalnein , Uschi Laar , Vanessa Merg , Hernan Nunez , John Peters , Michael Peters , Philipp Quaet-Faslem , Abi von Reininghaus , Markus Reuter , Tony Rowell , Axel Rudolph , Hannsjoerg Scheid , Peter Spoecker , EGO SYStems , Tino , David Torn , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eduard_T=FCske?= , MIchael Wack , Veit Wafzig , Kuno Wagner , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Wirths?= , Frieder Zimmermann Subject: RE: serious (dormant!) virus! Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:50:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id AAA26146 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com WRONG!!!! DO NOT DO THIS!!! This is actually a needed system file , if you delete it you will screw up your windows system guarranteed This is a hoax check the symantec website for proof that this is a hoax and a scam Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Leander REININGHAUS [mailto:LEALOOP@compuserve.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:53 PM To: UDELHOVEN; Peter Andreas; Gregor Arz; Mike Ayers; Paul Bailey; Almut Barz; Frank Berressem; Kimberlin Blackstone; Jonathan Brainin; Walter Brühn; Alessandro Bruno; Carol Callister; lucie compton; Solongo Damdin; Loopers Delight; Digigram; Kim Flint; Florian Fürst; Curt Golden; Nicole B. Graham; Jens Grattentaler; Asita Hamidi; Ralph Herrnkind; Rüdiger Hoffmann; Tilmann Höhn; Alan Hoover; Chris Jaeker; Heinrich von Kalnein; Uschi Laar; Vanessa Merg; Hernan Nunez; John Peters; Michael Peters; Philipp Quaet-Faslem; Abi von Reininghaus; Markus Reuter; Tony Rowell; Axel Rudolph; Hannsjoerg Scheid; Peter Spoecker; EGO SYStems; Tino; David Torn; Eduard Tüske; MIchael Wack; Veit Wafzig; Kuno Wagner; André Wirths; Frieder Zimmermann Subject: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! > > Dear friends, > we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in the > directory c:/windows/command/ > We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!! > > PLEASE CHECK YOUR HARDDISC!!! PROBABLY YOU RECEIVED THE VIRUS TOO!!! > > Good luck!!! > > > > >Subject: SERIOUS VIRUS > > > > > > > > >URGENT. A VIRUS could be in your computer files > > >> now, dormant but will become active on June 1. > > >> FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT > > >> AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. > > >> > > >> It was brought to my attention yesterday that a > > >> virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it > > >> and to my surprise I found it on mine. . > > >> > > >> Please follow the directions and remove it from > > >> yours TODAY!! > > >> > > >> No Virus software can detect it. It will become > > >> active on June 1, 2001. > > >> > > >> It might be too late by then. It wipes out all > > >> files and folders on the hard drive. This virus > > >> travels through E-mail and migrates to the > > >> > > >> 'C:\windows\command' folder. To find it and get > > >> rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > > >> > > >> Go to the "START" button. > > >> Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > > >> Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > > >> Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" > > >> drive. > > >> Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > > >> Begin search. > > >> > > >> If it finds it, highlight it. > > >> Go to 'File' and delete it. > > >> Close the find Dialog box > > >> Open the Recycle Bin > > >> Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin > > >> You should be safe. > > >> > > >> The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you > > >> have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. > > >> Many major companies have found this virus on > > >> their > > >> computers. Please help your friends !!!!!!!! > > >> > > >> DO NOT RELY ON YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE > > >> and > > >> NORTON CANNOT DETECT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME > > >> A VIRUS UNTIL JUNE 1ST. > > >> > > >> WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 02:54:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27630; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:51:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:51:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:50:23 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 06:50:23.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[21E87F30:01C0EA67] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So.......just how much money does sonic foundry give you to bring up ACID in every conversation? From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" >I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other >"wierd" instruments..... gotta love them. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700 Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason: "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet to back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to hear some looping..." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 03:25:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA28045; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:23:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:23:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.98.159] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 07:22:45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 07:22:46.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7B12AA0:01C0EA6B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com



Ha, ha Matt, may I call you that... if that's really your name ? I know I seem a little bit   ACID-ized, but it's a great app, and I want people to know about it. No I get NOTHING for my high praise of Sonic Foundry ; does anyone get any bucks from EDP, or "My Daughter Is Looping in Europe" ? No, this forum is used for the spread of information, no matter how archaic it might be. I could start on the Zoom ST-224, as a looping device, and tout it's accolades..... but I digress. Peace, and hair grease my man... Oh, that Virus Warning really sucked, did you get one Matt ? I think that was a waste of bandwidth !

----Original Message Follows----
From: "matt davignon"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:50:23 -0700
So.......just how much money does sonic foundry give you to bring up ACID in
every conversation?
From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
>I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and
>other
>"weird" instruments..... gotta love them.
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To:
Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700
Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:
"yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet
to
back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to
hear some looping..."
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 12:09:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12743; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:01:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:01:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> References: <200106010017.UAA14968@hemlock.violacea.com> <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:52:47 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit >to loving the early Cure on loopers delight? that's the only kind of Cure we'll allow. admit to liking the later stuff and you're outta here! KISS is the only band that was better with makeup. best, rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 14:05:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18869; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:59:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:59:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B17D8B6.908E475C@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:05:47 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? References: <200106010017.UAA14968@hemlock.violacea.com> <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason: > > "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet > to > back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to > hear some looping..." > > Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I > played the crowd in and out > in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the Rio > Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that > pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran > a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those old > red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to create > my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also > pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower melody > as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really > archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out > sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what instruments > I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the > footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some really > beautiful and mysterious sounding > artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'? > > Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux > industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV > unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands > fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"? Priceless!!!! > > P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit > to loving the early Cure on loopers delight? yes! i loved the early cure too. so, did any of this stuff get recorded? ;-) best, lance g. ps i didn't report back from the harry partch festival, but it was actually really great. we only got there for the evening concert (so missed all the lectures, "petting zoo" etc.), but john schneider & co. (*just strings*) were excellent at presenting partch's early work...especially great was a four-part madrigal setting of one of li po's poems, i think it was "the crane"- written it seems to prove to certain university professors that harry could indeed write "proper" music if necessary...very funny! john s. also presented the original version of "barstow" with just voice and guitar accompaniment- there was an extensive reading from "bitter music", partch's autobiographical sketches of his hobo days...etc. etc. all in all an excellent evening! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 14:34:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20523; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:32:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:32:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:17:36 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? In-reply-to: <3B17D8B6.908E475C@earthlink.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: baumhaus@earthlink.net, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <200106010017.UAA14968@hemlock.violacea.com> <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> <3B17D8B6.908E475C@earthlink.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:05 AM -0700 6/1/01, lance glover wrote: >ps i didn't report back from the harry partch festival, but it was actually >really great. we only got there for the evening concert The daytime events were informative. After John Schneider's introduction and mini-tour of the instruments there were presentations by Philip Blackburn and Bob Gilmore (both of whom have books on Partch), a group performance/lecture by Danlee Mitchell et al., and the screening of documentary films -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 15:21:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24095; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:19:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:19:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:17:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: XLR volume pedal? In-Reply-To: <3AF3143B.E602DC61@altruistmusic.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Do any of you loopsters know of anybody who manufactures a low-impedance volume pedal with XLR connectors? My rig includes a mic for looping odd occasional acoustic stuff (flutes, etc) along with the usual electrical suspects. I usually have the fader on the mic channel down and bring it up when I need it, but it would be so much smoother to be able to do this by foot since a free hand is sometimes hard to come by. Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 15:47:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25097; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:45:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:45:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB2D0@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Loopers-Network Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:43:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0EAD3.118D3600" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EAD3.118D3600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" But do be aware that just cos the Knitting Factory loves Stig or DT, ** well, i would say that they love dt . . . and might love me if i could get 'em to return my damn phone calls! (i love bookers!) stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EAD3.118D3600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Loopers-Network


But do be aware that just cos the Knitting Factory = loves Stig or DT,

** well, i would say that they love dt  . . . = and might love me if i could get 'em to return my damn phone calls! =

(i love bookers!)

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EAD3.118D3600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 15:56:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25427; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:54:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:54:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a801c0ead4$69e426a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: XLR volume pedal? Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:52:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If your rig has a channel insert jack, I'd use that instead. For example, my trusty old Tascam board has a tip/ring/sleeve style insert (i.e., 1/4" stereo jack). The sleeve is in common, the tip is send and the ring is return (or vice versa). So I'd put the Vol.Ped. on that puppy. You'd have to either make up a cable or use the proper stereo to mono Y cable. Inserts are usually after the gain stage so it's a nice hot signal. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Nelson" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:17 PM Subject: XLR volume pedal? > Do any of you loopsters know of anybody who manufactures a low-impedance > volume pedal with XLR connectors? > > My rig includes a mic for looping odd occasional acoustic stuff (flutes, > etc) along with the usual electrical suspects. I usually have the fader on > the mic channel down and bring it up when I need it, but it would be so > much smoother to be able to do this by foot since a free hand is sometimes > hard to come by. > > Tim > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:12:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29176; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:08:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:08:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:09:26 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Electrix blow-out References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t&csel=0&FIND=electrix BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! Elby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:20:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29595; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:19:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:19:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1806AF.9C430228@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:18:39 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Live looping webstream! References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> <00a801c0ead4$69e426a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello people, This Sunday (6/3) between the hours of 4pm and 6pm I will be webcasting live loops from a house party in Oakland CA. I synch live guitar, synth and samples to sequenced rhythm tracks. All music except for the drum tracks is improvised. Fun fun fun! There will also be DJs spinning, and I'm not sure what the set order will be, but there sure will be music to enjoy. If you're near a computer with a decent web connection, point your favorite mp3 stream decoder to radio.haze.st:8000 Win Amp (for the PC) and SoundJam MP (for Macs) both work. Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:26:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29759; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:25:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:25:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d001c0eae1$5c7fe280$e842f93f@global> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106011805.OAA19115@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: OT: jaw harps, jews harps.................... Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:25:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick replies: At Dror Sinai's amazing, state of the art world percussion/instrument store, RHYTHM FUSION, in Santa Cruz (where I'm blessed to live) there is a very large collection of incredible eastern european jaw harps (also known as jews harps, but methinks that this term is an 'Ellis Island-esque' misnomer and I try to avoid it). There are a great deal of them, most of them in concert tunings. They are fine, fine instruments compared to the jaw harps that you can by at a typical ma and pop music store. I highly recommend them. If you ever want to buy one via the mail, I would be more than happy to make a special trip and pick one out for you (unless you can make it there in person, which I highly recommend) As a description, I own two jaw harps (and a whole slew of Balinese, Phillipino and Javanese bamboo ones as well) that are pitched an octave apart in D. One is very small (3") and the other one is approximately twice as large (5-6"). They make some 'bass' harps too that I just haven't gotten the cash together to purchase. They are pricey!!!!! Approximately $30-$50 each, but once you play one you'll never go back. They are, obviously, more metallic sounding than the bamboo harps and sound very 'electronic' consequently. BTW, are you also hip to two similar sounding instruments: the Phillipino 'Buzz Stick' made out of slit bamboo (Rhythm Fusion usually has those in stock, too) and just playing your palm over a two foot piece of 3" or 4" PVC or ABS plastic pipe......................all those buzzing overtones that make the dijeridu so popular these days!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:29:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29887; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:28:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:28:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: MY setup and splitting the line+flying To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:32:32 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ok here is the deal...i have a sp808- sp202 -line 6 delay -modded moog-waterphone and my sherman filtebank as my main pieces to play with for live work- i have a show coming up and need to get my setup going a little different-i would like to be able to split the signal coming from my sp808 and 202 and run them into the sherman and line6-at the moment i have my line6 plugged in my alt 3/4 on my mixer (mackie 1402)and i route the signal to it by a press of a button-anyways to get to the point can someone suggest some good line spiltters i can buy that would not degrade the signal in anyway? 2nd question: I am playing a show in nyc soon and i have to fly-any suggestions for a flightcase for my mixer would be apperciated--i am going to carry on the rest(i am widdling down my gear for the nyc show-i will have the sp808 the 202 the line 6 and the sherman on the plane with me) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:30:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29932; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:29:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:29:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.161] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 21:28:09 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 21:28:09.0641 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1354990:01C0EAE1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Touche' my man... I think I used the wrong "word" in describing the info that floats through these post "ARCHAIC", was not the word I wanted. It was 4:00 am, and I was play "Typing Of The Dead", and I went a little, bonkers. I wanted to use a word that meant "of obscure nature", but I slipped..... sorry.

----Original Message Follows----
From: lance glover
Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:25:27 -0700
Devious D_MasterMixer wrote:
>
> Ha, ha Matt, may I call you that... if that's really your name ? I
> know I seem a little bit ACID-ized, but it's a great app, and I want
> people to know about it. No I get NOTHING for my high praise of Sonic
> Foundry ; does anyone get any bucks from EDP, or "My Daughter Is
> Looping in Europe" ? No, this forum is used for the spread of
> information, no matter how archaic it might be. I could start on the
> Zoom ST-224, as a looping device, and tout it's accolades..... but I
> digress. Peace, and hair grease my man... Oh, that Virus Warning
> really sucked, did you get one Matt ? I think that was a waste of
> bandwidth !
um, i think we all got it...
and glad you are so...altruistic? but i can't agree that the newness of
an approach makes older information archaic; by the nature of
information, what's news to some is old hat to others and vice-versa.
which is not to dis your (or anyone else's) particular toolbox- perhaps
you might agree the most important tool sits midway between one's
ears...
cheers,
lance g.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:37:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30203; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:35:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:35:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:27:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <905EF.A.uXH.rqAG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wow. i don't know whether to be completely stoked (the full size electrix units for $100 is really stunning) or to be kinda pissed. what gives? i paid just under $200 each for my EQ Killer and Filter Queen. Electrix....hmmmm....something besides the Repeater on the way? Nobody has a price drop like that on a company's complete line of gear without something going on. As for ya crazy loopers...if you got the cash...looks like now's the time to jump. These are some crazy, fun to use products, and the fullsize units do all kinds of fun midi sync stuff. At the Repeater demo at Namm, one of the things i got shown was changing the tempo of a loop and having all of the delays (mo-fx) and lfo speed (filter factory) of the connected units drop in sync with the changed loop. scary. go for it...me, i'm still staggering from the price tag of my recently purchased Logic Audio Platinum and the firewire MOTU 828.... won't it be fun when the price on that drops by over 50% when the next best goodie comes along? rich >Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be >interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several >pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and >Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t&csel=0&FIND=electrix > >BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship >date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! > >Elby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:44:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30442; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:43:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:43:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001c01c0eae4$37bdc2c0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:45:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hehe- I'm all over it- I'll have to get a bigger rack... :) c ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out > wow. i don't know whether to be completely stoked (the full size > electrix units for $100 is really stunning) or to be kinda pissed. > what gives? i paid just under $200 each for my EQ Killer and Filter > Queen. > > Electrix....hmmmm....something besides the Repeater on the way? > Nobody has a price drop like that on a company's complete line of > gear without something going on. > > As for ya crazy loopers...if you got the cash...looks like now's the > time to jump. These are some crazy, fun to use products, and the > fullsize units do all kinds of fun midi sync stuff. At the Repeater > demo at Namm, one of the things i got shown was changing the tempo of > a loop and having all of the delays (mo-fx) and lfo speed (filter > factory) of the connected units drop in sync with the changed loop. > scary. > > go for it...me, i'm still staggering from the price tag of my > recently purchased Logic Audio Platinum and the firewire MOTU 828.... > > won't it be fun when the price on that drops by over 50% when the > next best goodie comes along? > > rich > > > >Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be > >interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several > >pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and > >Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. > > > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931 ?q=t&csel=0&FIND=electrix > > > >BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship > >date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! > > > >Elby > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:46:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30577; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:45:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:45:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.161] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: N.FOURNIER@NATURENY.com Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 21:44:37 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 21:44:37.0888 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E3FD000:01C0EAE4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your Mac. I am not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that you can use. ReCyCle.

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From: "Fournier, Nicole"
To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'"
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:33:14 -0400
hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be kind......
Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to get a program like
Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you recommend me get?
many thanx
-nic
> ----------
> From: Devious D_MasterMixer
> Reply To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2001 12:04 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
>
> I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other
> "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them.
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"
> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> To:
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700
> Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:
> "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet
>
> to
> back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there
> to
> hear some looping..."
> Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I
> played the crowd in and out
> in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the Rio
>
> Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that
> pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran
> a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those old
>
> red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to create
>
> my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also
> pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower
> melody
> as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really
> archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out
> sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what instruments
> I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the
> footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some
> really
> beautiful and mysterious sounding
> artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'?
> Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux
> industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV
> unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands
> fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"? Priceless!!!!
>
> P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit
> to loving the early Cure on loopers delight?
>
> _____
>
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>

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 17:57:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30867; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:56:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:56:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: mhamburg@mailsj-v1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B180486.850BBBC@cloud9.net> References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:52:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Mark Hamburg" Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Any ideas why the Filter Queen is the most expensive of the lot (ignoring the Repeater)? Mark At 2:09 PM -0700 6/1/01, Mountain Man wrote: >Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be >interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several >pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and >Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t >&csel=0&FIND=electrix > >BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship >date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! > >Elby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:05:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32122; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:02:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:02:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:47:08 -0400 To: ambient@hyperreal.org, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Jorrit Dijkstra , boss-improv@topica.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Fwd: [NM] Electrix filter factory @ Musicians Friend $99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Some of you might be interested in this -- at this price, I sure was. > > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/shop/rec/010601130142172137068024915931?pid=181121 > >Well here it is the filter at $99, I almost couldnt believe it. >Bought one in an instant, felt a little cheap for not buying the >rest of the Electrix gear that was on sale. Kudos to Gregory Martin >for letting us know someone had it on sale. > >let me close by saying this is without a doubt the best list going. >Sleep tight, the sun is going down over Oxford. > >Rob >missing the desert. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:06:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32162; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:04:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:04:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010601150147.020ff0a0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:01:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mark Hamburg (02:52 PM 06/01/01) wrote: >Any ideas why the Filter Queen is the most expensive of the lot (ignoring >the Repeater)? As from my contact at Electrix... The deal with GC/MF is that they should be selling the WarpFactory, FilterFactory, and Mo-FX at US $99 each, and the FilterQueen and EQKiller at US $79 each. The MF site needs to be updated. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:48:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00391; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:36:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:36:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010601223627.28339.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: OT: jaw harps, jews harps.................... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00d001c0eae1$5c7fe280$e842f93f@global> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <14b19D.A.4F.ujBG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > > Rick replies: At Dror Sinai's amazing, state of the art world > percussion/instrument store, RHYTHM FUSION, in Santa Cruz > (where I'm blessed to live) there is a very large collection of > incredible > eastern european jaw harps (also known as jews harps, but methinks > that > this term is an 'Ellis Island-esque' misnomer and I try to avoid it). Thanks for the explanation of your jaw instruments. The phrase jew's harp was the original and only phrase I had heard for this class of instruments, until recently. The etymology of the phrase jew's harp seems unclear, but it certainly predates Ellis Island immigrants. I found the following at the Jew's Harp Guild http://www.jewsharpguild.org/history.html ---------- A Dictionary of Contemporary American Usage (New York 1957), p.259, reports a recent trend: Jew's Harp (Jews' Harp); juice harp. For over 400 years the instrument ... has been connected in English with the Jew's ... Whether any derogation was originally intended is not known but it is apparently believed that some might now be felt, for the instrument is invariably referred to in radio and television programs as a juice harp. Considering the drooling that often accompanies amateur performances on the thing, this is a fairly ingenious emendation, and considering the fact that it is only on radio and television programs that children hear of the instrument at all any more, the new name is probably better established among the young than the old name, and one more word has undergone one more preposterous change. Frederick Crane (in VIM #1) says, "To summarize, six words have been discussed as the original form from which the Jew's of Jew's Harp was corrupted: jaw's, jeu, jeugd, gewgaw, giga, gawe. The frequency and dogmatism with which the various etymons have been asserted vary from very great to very little." "In brief: The earliest known written citation of Jew's harp in 1595, in England. Prior to that it was called Jew's trump (earliest spelling: jewes trump). Before that it was known as trump in Scotland and northern England; the origin of the "jewes" preceder is obscure. However, there is no indication that the origin was connected with Judaism or the Jewish people. It probably came from some other word -- one possibility is the Old English word gewgaw - and was then, many years later, "fixed," resulting in the current form. Jaw harp is a 20th century creation. It was first suggested as an origin of Jew's harp as pure conjecture - there is no evidence of that name ever being used in common parlance before then. From that point, several different music historians indulged in sloppier and sloppier research, until jawharp as an origin progressed from baseless conjecture to absolute "truth". Jaw harp, then, is not an invented term intended to be politically correct, but is rather a misnomer brought to life by bad scholarship. In its favor, jawharp is a misnomer of a misnomer - a quirky name for a somewhat quirky instrument. An informal survey of Jewish friends over the years has yielded mixed reactions to the "Jew's harp". Almost all found it inoffensive, or were puzzled that the question had even been raised; however, the few who did find it offensive objected to it rather strongly. One said he thought it sounded like a slur invented by Christians, Big Christian harp, little Jew's harp. This is an imaginative yet unfounded theory, but given the abuse that Jews have suffered throughout history, it is an understandable one. An important fact to consider is that the name Jew's harp in not considered a slur only because of the historic persecution of Jew's. It is also because of the negative image the instrument has endured in the United States. (If, say, French toast were used only for hog feed here, the French might well be insulted by the term). And even though aficionados of the Jew's harp are aware that in most of the world - perhaps even most especially in Europe -- the instrument has been revered, not reviled, the fact remains that perceptions can be as important as fact. A perceived slur can hurt as much as an intended one. English is a fluid, flexible, and capricious language. Whether Jew's harp, trump, jawharp, or something else enters popular usage cannot really be dictated. Even if it could, changing language in the name of "correctness" seems a bit Orwellian. PLUCK will continue to use Jew's harp, as it is still the most common term in use, but when referring to a player of the instrument will use "jawharpist." We will also use whatever name the maker of a particular instrument uses, and use a player's choice in name as well. The way to combat the perception of the name "Jew's harp" as a slur is not to try to change the language, but to improve the image of the instrument. We can do that by treating the Jew's harp as a legitimate musical instrument and encouraging others to do the same." Frederick Crane suggests (in VIM #4) changing the name to TRUMP. He says, "If I fancied that I could influence the English vocabulary, I would propose that we return to the Middle Ages, and make a fresh start by calling the instrument trump once more. The word has much to recommend it. It is the oldest known name of the instrument in English, and has an unbroken tradition to the 20th century in Scotland, at least. It is a cousin of the oldest terms in the languages of Europe, such as French trompe, German Trumpel, and Slavic drumla. It isn't likely to be confused with the names of any other instruments, though it does resemble trumpet. And it has a nice, folksy quality to it, quite perfect for the instrument." (See VIM #4 for a complete discussion on this.) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:49:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00503; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:42:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:42:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010601184122.007c7d10@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:41:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RC-20 In-Reply-To: <00a801c0ead4$69e426a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Even though nobody's had a chance to send that detailed review Kim's been asking for, does anyone out there have any cursory first impressions reached while trying out an RC-20? I actually had one in my hands yesterday (the shipment had just arrived; seemed like a solid little unit and looked like it would be a lot of fun to try out) but my lunch hour was almost over and I had to go back to work so I didn't get to actually plug it in :-( Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:51:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00326; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:34:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:34:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:26:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com bitheadz also makes 'Phrazer'...an acid-style composing program. supposedly you can import acid files into it, as well. www.bitheadz.com rich >Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your >Mac. I am not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that >you can use. ReCyCle. > > >hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be kind...... >Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to get a program like >Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you recommend me get? >many thanx >-nic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 18:55:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01208; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:54:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:54:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c0ea88$e4f83ee0$19acbdcf@mshome.net> From: "marc roche" To: References: <200106011805.OAA19116@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: repeater Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:52:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I ordered my repeater from musicians friend today. they were willing to do it for $525 (matching sixtecycle). They said it would be in around the end of the month. Salaam govinda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hamburg" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out > Any ideas why the Filter Queen is the most expensive of the lot (ignoring > the Repeater)? > > Mark > > At 2:09 PM -0700 6/1/01, Mountain Man wrote: > >Those of you that are not members of AH or the NordMod list :) might be > >interested in knowing that Muscian's Friend is having a sale on several > >pieces of Electrix gear, including the Filter Factory, Warp Factory, and > >Mo-fx - $100 each. Buy any two (I did!) and shipping is free. > > > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931 ?q=t > >&csel=0&FIND=electrix > > > >BTW, I notice they're taking orders for the Repeater, and quote a ship > >date of 6/1/01. Hey, that's today!!!!! > > > >Elby > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 19:08:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03131; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:07:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:07:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010601190537.007c8520@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:05:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: XLR volume pedal? In-Reply-To: <00a801c0ead4$69e426a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No, I had thought of that and in terms of gain that would be the way to go, but my board's a Spirit Folio with no inserts. Only two auxes, too. (But apart from that I like it a lot.) I had thought of rigging up a switch box kind of like a CoughDrop (only latchable so I don't to stand there like a flamingo) to switch the signal in and out, but I'd really like to be able to do that 'volume swell into the big delay before the looper' thing we all know and love with our electric instruments. I've done it before with a high-impedance 1/4" plugged (i.e. R---- S----) mic through a regular volume pedal and it works pretty well, but I'd really prefer to use an SM57. So I guess I'll get out the drill bits and soldering stuff; does anyone have a recommendation for the pot value? (By the way, Dennis, did you notice the humorous typo on your song title on the '75 Seconds' album as posted on ? 'CIRRUS Over Indiana' has mutated into 'CITRUS'; more vitamin C, I guess!) -t At 02:52 PM 6/1/01 -0500, the Lord of the Tibetan Singing Bowls (Dennis Leas) wrote: >If your rig has a channel insert jack, I'd use that instead. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 19:32:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04144; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:31:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:31:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.48] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: mattdavignon@hotmail.com Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 23:28:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 23:28:49.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C9D17A0:01C0EAF2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

That's really rich...... I don't know... Poontang, Acid ? I think Poontang win's out in that battle.

Oh, Acid 4.0..... that's really rich.

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From: "matt davignon"
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com, baumhaus@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:43:27 -0700
No problem, I just think it's funny how often you bring up ACID. You have far surpassed my roommate's best friend, who manages to bring up the subject of Poontang in every conversation:
"I'm hungry."
"You know what I'm hungry for? Poontang!"
"Hungry for superior mixing and editing capabilities? Try Sonic Foundry (tm) ACID 4.0! Wow, I just downloaded the LEGAL version, and it's got the kind of features I flip for! I can change the pitch without changing the time or going back into SoundForge. Gosh. Sonic Foundry ACID version 4.0 - now that's phat!."
>From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
>Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
>To: baumhaus@earthlink.net
>Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
>Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 21:28:09
>
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 19:34:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04172; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:32:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:32:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.48] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-20 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 23:31:50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 23:31:50.0850 (UTC) FILETIME=[0897EA20:01C0EAF3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Nope, no input from this side of my neck.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Tim Nelson
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RC-20
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:41:22 -0400
Even though nobody's had a chance to send that detailed review Kim's been
asking for, does anyone out there have any cursory first impressions
reached while trying out an RC-20?
I actually had one in my hands yesterday (the shipment had just arrived;
seemed like a solid little unit and looked like it would be a lot of fun to
try out) but my lunch hour was almost over and I had to go back to work so
I didn't get to actually plug it in :-(
Tim

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 19:35:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04288; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:34:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:34:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.56] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Boss PS-3 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:33:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2001 23:33:08.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[37110A30:01C0EAF3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anybody hear of rewiring the pedal button to route the input to the output or effect. This would enable looping with out adding to the loop. Doesn't sound like it would be difficult in theory. The effect would be on all the time. Anybody? I guess an AB/A+B switch would work also with a small mixer for the signals? Denis p.s. I can always use another ps-3 if anybody has one. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 20:09:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06735; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:08:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:08:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a501c0eaf8$452deac0$f9964e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: OT: jaw harps, jews harps.................... Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:08:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Bret wrote: >Thanks for the explanation of your jaw instruments. The phrase jew's >harp was the original and only phrase I had heard for this class of >instruments, until recently. >The etymology of the phrase jew's harp seems unclear, but it certainly >predates Ellis Island immigrants. I found the following at the Jew's >Harp Guild ...snip... Wow, Bret, thanks for the great post. This is just the kind of thing an amateur etymologist/musicologist like me lives for! :-0 It's amazing to see how many musical cultures throughout the world use that curious and curiously-named little twangy instrument. There's a fantastic CD on PAN Records called "Khomus - Jew's harp music of Turkic peoples in the Urals, Siberia and Central Asia." (catalogue # PAN 2032 CD, distributed, I believe, in the States by Arhoolie) Although it's not for everyone, this CD has an amazing range of both traditional (i.e., "folk") and "serious composer" (for want of a better term) pieces for the jaw harp. The title of the CD "khomus" refers to the Turkic root name for the instrument. I'm no authority on Turkic languages, but I believe the term "khomus" (or "komuz," "kobuz," "kobyz," etc.) is a generic term for "musical instrument." A Turkish musical friend of mine had done some fieldwork studying the music of Kirghiz (Central Asian former Soviet Republic) immigrants in Istanbul, and one of their main instruments was called "shan-kobyz." My friend explained that this literally meant "mouth-instrument." In India/Pakistan the same instrument is called "murchang." Surprisingly enough, it has exactly the same derivation, from Hindi "munh" (mouth) and "chang" (instrument). In North India it's strictly used as a folk instrument, either solo or providing melodic percussion effects in an ensemble. However, in South India it has full "classical" status, and is generally played as an accompanying percussion instrument (along with other drums) to vocalists and instrumentalists. As Rick mentioned, the instrument is also widespread throughout Southeast Asia and Indonesia, as well as Eastern Europe. For years I always thought of it as strictly an American "folk instrument" from jugbands, etc. I was really surprised to see how ancient and far-flung an instrument it is. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 20:40:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07730; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:38:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:38:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: From: "Mike Feeney" To: "Loopers Delight" , , Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:38:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c0eafc$4dc83b00$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0EAD2.64F23300" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0EAD2.64F23300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really wouldn't recommend using Virtual PC for any audio applications... I use it at work for MS Office, but the general operation of VPC is incredibly slow. I really doubt it could keep up with that kind of data stream. I have switched to the mac version of Office just so i don't have to use VPC anymore. And I have a new G4 tower, 384Mb RAM.... Mike -----Original Message----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:45 PM To: N.FOURNIER@NATURENY.com Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your Mac. I am not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that you can use. ReCyCle. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'" Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:33:14 -0400 hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be kind...... Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to get a program like Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you recommend me get? many thanx -nic > ---------- > From: Devious D_MasterMixer > Reply To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com > Sent: Friday, June 1, 2001 12:04 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? > > I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other > "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them. > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > To: > Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? > Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700 > Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason: > "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet > > to > back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there > to > hear some looping..." > Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I > played the crowd in and out > in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the Rio > > Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that > pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran > a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those old > > red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to create > > my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also > pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower > melody > as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really > archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out > sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what instruments > I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the > footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some > really > beautiful and mysterious sounding > artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'? > Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux > industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV > unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands > fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"? Priceless!!!! > > P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit > to loving the early Cure on loopers delight? > > _____ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0EAD2.64F23300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
    I really wouldn't recommend using Virtual PC = for any=20 audio applications... I use it at work for MS Office, but the general = operation=20 of VPC is incredibly slow.  I really doubt it could keep up with = that kind=20 of data stream.  I have switched to the mac version of Office just = so i=20 don't have to use VPC anymore.  And I have a new G4 tower, 384Mb=20 RAM....
 
    Mike
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Devious = D_MasterMixer=20 [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 01, = 2001 9:45=20 PM
To: N.FOURNIER@NATURENY.com
Subject: RE: looped = jaw=20 harp and kazoo?

Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your = Mac. I am=20 not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that you can use. = ReCyCle.

----Original Message Follows----=20
From: "Fournier, Nicole"
To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'"
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?=20
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:33:14 -0400=20
hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be = kind......=20
Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to = get a=20 program like=20
Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you = recommend me=20 get?=20
many thanx=20
-nic=20
> ----------=20
> From: Devious D_MasterMixer=20
> Reply To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com=20
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2001 12:04 AM=20
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?=20
>=20
> I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include = jaw harps,=20 and other=20
> "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them.=20
>=20
>=20
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> ----Original Message Follows----=20
> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"=20
> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
> To:=20
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?=20
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700=20
> Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:=20
> "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw = harp and=20 kazzoo quintet=20
>=20
> to=20
> back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, = whish I=20 could be there=20
> to=20
> hear some looping..."=20
> Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the=20 opening/closing (I=20
> played the crowd in and out=20
> in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi = media=20 show at the Rio=20
>=20
> Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one = of the=20 pieces that=20
> pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I = ran=20
> a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it = through one=20 of those old=20
>=20
> red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down = one=20 octave, to create=20
>=20
> my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish = tin=20 whistle, also=20
> pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed = an=20 octave lower=20
> melody=20
> as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That = Digitech=20 is really=20
> archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this = case it=20 came out=20
> sounding really, really cool. You would have never = known what=20 instruments=20
> I used, initially and I have the wonderful added = option of=20 sweeping the=20
> footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which = produced some=20
> really=20
> beautiful and mysterious sounding=20
> artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'?=20
> Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one = in a=20 faux=20
> industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone = ever catch=20 the MTV=20
> unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands=20
> fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love = Cats"?=20 Priceless!!!!=20
>=20
> P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit=20
> to loving the early Cure on loopers delight?=20
>=20
> _____=20
>=20
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at=20 http://explorer.msn.com=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0EAD2.64F23300-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 20:45:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08054; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:44:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:44:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:43:50 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c9.10badb39.284990c6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_c9.10badb39.284990c6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/1/01 5:08:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mtman@cloud9.net writes: > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t > &csel=0&FIND=electrix > elby.....why did you do this to me?.....do i, as a humble *g* player and all round looping goon want these neat toys for so cheap?.....seems like a tasty offer, thanks for the pointer.....m --part1_c9.10badb39.284990c6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/1/01 5:08:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mtman@cloud9.net
writes:




http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/search/rec/010601134632168100206018333931?q=t
&csel=0&FIND=electrix


elby.....why did you do this to me?.....do i, as a humble *g* player and all
round looping goon want these neat toys for so cheap?.....seems like a tasty
offer, thanks for the pointer.....m --part1_c9.10badb39.284990c6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 21:10:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10075; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:08:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:08:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.48] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 01:07:38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2001 01:07:38.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A845A40:01C0EB00] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Kudoo's on that. I've gone back, and researched the VPC, and I hear the same problem. I did not know... Well Sonic Foundry is SUPPOSED to be working on a Mac version, but I think that is just "Mac-Talk".

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Mike Feeney"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: "Loopers Delight" , ,
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:38:12 -0500
I really wouldn't recommend using Virtual PC for any audio
applications... I use it at work for MS Office, but the general operation of
VPC is incredibly slow. I really doubt it could keep up with that kind of
data stream. I have switched to the mac version of Office just so i don't
have to use VPC anymore. And I have a new G4 tower, 384Mb RAM....
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:45 PM
To: N.FOURNIER@NATURENY.com
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Well, you can buy Virtual PC 2.0, or higher, and run ACID on your Mac. I
am not a MAC man, but I think Stienberg has some things that you can use.
ReCyCle.
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Fournier, Nicole"
To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'"
Subject: RE: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:33:14 -0400
hi & hello - I'm new to this loopers thang....please be kind......
Question....I'm just beginning in this world... I want to get a program
like
Acid, but I'm getting a mac. What program would you recommend me get?
many thanx
-nic
> ----------
> From: Devious D_MasterMixer
> Reply To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2001 12:04 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
>
> I have the newest Loops From ACID, and they include jaw harps, and other
> "wierd" instruments..... gotta love them.
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"
> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> To:
> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo?
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700
> Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason:
> "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo
quintet
>
> to
> back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be
there
> to
> hear some looping..."
> Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I
> played the crowd in and out
> in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the
Rio
>
> Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that
> pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran
> a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those
old
>
> red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to
create
>
> my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also
> pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower
> melody
> as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really
> archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out
> sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what
instruments
> I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the
> footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some
> really
> beautiful and mysterious sounding
> artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'?
> Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux
> industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV
> unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands
> fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"?
Priceless!!!!
>
> P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit
> to loving the early Cure on loopers delight?
>
> _____
>
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>
>
>
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 22:31:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12536; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:29:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:29:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010602022914.44079.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: RC-20, first impressions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I picked up a RC-20 Thursday evening and just spent a couple hours with it. The manual is fairly well written, a surprise. It is brief and occasionally nebulous but understandable. Looping is a breeze. You press the left pedal and when finished press it again. If you want to overdub you use the left pedal yet again, on and off as needed. The right pedal stops the loop. If you hold down either pedal for 2 seconds you erase the loop. You can play loops in reverse but the button is small and behind the main pedals. You can buy a footswitch for it and the step through loop selector. Roland has a specific pedal they recommend which is optional. The unit comes with six AA batteries, a wall wart is available for $20 more. I paid $269 for it. It wasn't worth finding out if there were better prices, save $20 and wait until the next batch hits the stores? The construction is pretty good, it isn't built like a Line 6 DL-4 which is a tank but it is fairly heavy. If you want to freestyle you can, Boss makes much of the quantizing feature which works if you think in terms of math. I'm not knocking it but to me it sounds unnatural if you hit a loop and hit a good endpoint only to hear it "corrected." You can defeat quantizing. In fact unless you set up time signatures and tempo you won't be able to quantize. There are three modes, instrument/microphone, the mic input is quarter inch with another quarter inch input for instruments. The CD/MD input is a mini plug. When using the CD/MD input there are controls to change frequency response to "flatten out signal." I haven't tried it yet but my guitar sounded good. There are input volume controls for instrument and mic inputs but not for the CD/MD. Other controls include output volume, guide tone volume (if you want a metronome pulse you can turn on a guide to keep in time providing you set one up. There is also a rotary control for the 10 loops and 1 one shot that the RC-20 can save. There are small buttons for reverse, tap tempo, write select, exit (if you decide not to save), auto start and mode. Auto start only works with tempo based loops. You can tap tempo the speed and again, you need to set these kinds of loops up. The mode button toggles you between normal, center cancel, and flat amp simulator. Center cancel, to quote the manual, "Sounds localized at the center (such as vocals or guitar solo) will be erased from the sound being recorded." Haven't tried that, don't think I have a need to. I haven't tried the flat amp simulator either, will expand when I do. So how does it sound? Well, pretty good actually. Some have complained of a hiss. My setup is either a Carvin LS127T, Fernandes Revolver w/sustainer or Schecter 5 string guitar (tuned in 5ths, low string is at open A on a bass up to high C# of a 6 string guitar) clean there was some change in timbre, the most on the Carvin, with any kind of distortion no difference. So in terms of sound quality I'd say good, Line 6 is very good, it's also a 14 second looper vs a 5 1/2 minute looper. I compared output to a Boomerang+ and the Rang was harder to tame but far more usable to my tastes. Here are some areas I think the RC-20 would be useful: 1. DJs or keyboard loopers. You can push on the pedal comfortably plus if you are beat concerned you can catch the beat and lock step it if that's your thing. Even if I used it with my synths I think I'd go freestyle. However, it's there and as long as you aren't doing complex timings it works. Problem, no tempo display, dumb move but for a sub $300 5+ minute looper it's understandable 2. Guitar loopers. I love the Rang, I use it all the time but I find myself running to a recording source when I have a good loop, I can always reuse it later if I save it. It's not a great solution though and at gigs it's even harder if not impossible. But you have 10 loop memories available and a one shot, so you could save something you like. There are some catches though. First, you need to have the memory. Second, the loop is written to a memory buffer, if the buffer is higher than the amount of memory required to save the sound it will not save, nor can you overwrite an old loop. You have to delete the loop memories. 3. Vocalists, voice work. It has lots of time and you can save what you do and even work it out where you can reuse what you save. 4. One person bands. If you can deal with mono output you can do a lot with this pedal. I haven't tried it but I think you can use all inputs. An easier way would be to use the effects section of a mixer. Either way it can be done. Positives: lots of loop time, memory slots, battery powered (25 hours alkaline), reverse and loop advance switches Not Sure: many of the interesting controls require pushing of buttons or twisting knobs, if you use it as a floor pedal this, at least for me, is awkward. If you use it as a tabletop unit it is easier to deal with but is lacking for off the cuff loopers, it would have been interesting if Boss made a secondary switch available for looping/ovedubbing, redundant, yes, but it would have solved a lot of problems. Negatives: if you want to loop on the fly and use the RC-20 as a pedal you will be bending over a lot if you want to use some of the features. Optional footswitches necessary for reverse trigger and loop cycling which is wherever you start the trigger, so if you're on loop 5 it advances to 6, etc. No slow mode which would have been very cool. Additional initial thoughts, I didn't notice much or any padding of loops, you can't edit the loops you make in any way other than volume on the pedal. If set up well and you know your setup you should be fine, on the fly volume control with a built in volume control would have been a nice feature. The thing to remember is this is a sub $300 looper. For it's cost you get a lot of playback time, don't ask me the sample rate or frequency range, Boss isn't telling. I suspect 16 - 24k sampling rate. I'd be surprised if it's higher. If saving your loops matters this is a good unit to check out. Remember though, you'll still have to back up what you save as there's only 10 loops available to save. Still, I like the RC-20 so far. I can phrase train as well, never would use it, won't bother with it. It is probably designed for bass and guitar players although it can does offer modes to record line sources, they call it CD/HD. I haven't tried it yet but don't expect much, probably nice for drum beats and spoken word. I tried a Korg Karma and Waldorf microQ with guitar loops and was impressed with the quality. I did not go past 4 or 5 overdubs so I don't know how far it can go in that direction. Well, I hope this was helpful. I will try to follow up as I spend more time. I will be gigging with this and the Boomerang. The Rang will be my primary looper. It's kind of early but I still prefer the Rang for on the fly looping and ease of use. Bruce Satinover __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 22:35:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12709; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:34:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:34:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d501c0ea43$d3d90ee0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:37:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com so since it says "due 6-10" , is it safe to buy now? sorry if that's a dumb question, but i don't often make purchases of this size, so i thought i'd ask first! Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 1 23:01:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14162; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:59:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:59:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: THusken@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:58:45 EDT Subject: Electrix blowout To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b9.eb99af5.2849b065_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10524 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_b9.eb99af5.2849b065_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please don't tell me Electrix are having trouble...I'm still down about Alesis' problems! Great gear at great prices should be rewarded with great success for ever and ever! --part1_b9.eb99af5.2849b065_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please don't tell me Electrix are having trouble...I'm still down about
Alesis' problems!  Great gear at great prices should be rewarded with great
success for ever and ever!   --part1_b9.eb99af5.2849b065_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 00:02:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16068; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:00:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:00:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010601205402.020f9148@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:56:17 -0700 To: From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com diatom drone (07:37 PM 05.31.2001) wrote: >so since it says "due 6-10" , is it safe to buy now? sorry if that's a dumb >question, but i don't often make purchases of this size, so i thought i'd >ask first! A lot of folks have, and a lot of folks do on a regular basis. Personally, I would have no problems with doing so. My missus bought one of each for her rig (sans the Repeater) - that's mine. :) THusken@aol.com (07:58 PM 06.01.2001) wrote: >Please don't tell me Electrix are having trouble...I'm still down about >Alesis' problems! Great gear at great prices should be rewarded with great >success for ever and ever! Well, Alesis is officially out of Chapter 11 (Numark bought them), but it's untold as to what the business plan will be. Electrix is fine. They're re-aligning themselves to be able to concentrate on looping boxes, i.e., Repeater. Repeater is still coming. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 00:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16345; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:16:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:16:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010601205402.020f9148@mulder.intermag.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Mark Pulver wrote: > My missus bought one of each for her rig (sans the Repeater) - that's mine. :) The only thing I'm waiting on is to see musiciansfriend update their website so I can get the filter queen for $79 along with one of everything else - except for the WarpFactory, I really don't need two vocoders. OTOH, I use my warpfactory now, and $99 for a backup isn't unreasonable. Hmmm.... later, Steve -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 01:05:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18206; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:03:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:03:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00cd01c0eb21$6607a8c0$6e42f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106012248.SAA00617@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:03:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Lance G. wrote; "so, did any of this stuff get recorded? Yes, Thanks for asking, When I get some time I'll transfer my minidisc recording onto a CD and clean it up. I don't know how to poste audio files to the web. Can anybody help me out? I'd love to throw a couple of the things I did at the Residents show onto Loopers Xchange or some other appropriate site. Any suggestions and/or advice? I think I have all the software necessary for converting anything to anything (specifically, .wav files to MP3 files). yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 01:21:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18533; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:19:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:19:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.23.31.171] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 22:18:40 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2001 05:18:40.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C4C1EC0:01C0EB23] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At this very moment, it seems like the two best sites for posting mp3 files are www.iuma.com (which I use and like, but sometimes has a slow interface) and vitaminic.com (which I've never used, but now owns IUMA, and has been highly recommended to me). Mp3.com used to be a really easy to use, nice place to post mp3's (and has lots of features that make it more interactive with mp3 musicians), but now it's just about impossible to post there unless you pay them $20 per month. (Which would be money better spent by paying for webhosting for your own site.) Rick, I'm looking forward to hearing it! Did you ever hear back from Al at Kimo's? Matt >From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:03:43 -0700 > >Lance G. wrote; >"so, did any of this stuff get recorded? > >Yes, Thanks for asking, When I get some time I'll transfer my minidisc >recording onto a CD and clean it up. I don't know how to poste audio >files to the web. > > Can anybody help me out? I'd love to throw a couple of the things >I did at the Residents show onto Loopers Xchange or some other appropriate >site. Any suggestions and/or advice? I think I have all the >software necessary for converting anything to anything (specifically, .wav >files to MP3 files). > >yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 02:01:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20228; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:59:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:59:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009401c0eb29$16c6fce0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <200106012248.SAA00617@hemlock.violacea.com> <00cd01c0eb21$6607a8c0$6e42f93f@dnlsh01> Subject: Re: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 06:58:45 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm sorry I don't live in the US anymore, as I've got an MD of my first UK performance over Easter weekend, but of course no MD player. If I did I'd volunteer to do the transfer gratis. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: Sent: 02 June 2001 06:03 AM Subject: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) > Lance G. wrote; > "so, did any of this stuff get recorded? > > Yes, Thanks for asking, When I get some time I'll transfer my minidisc > recording onto a CD and clean it up. I don't know how to poste audio > files to the web. > > Can anybody help me out? I'd love to throw a couple of the things > I did at the Residents show onto Loopers Xchange or some other appropriate > site. Any suggestions and/or advice? I think I have all the > software necessary for converting anything to anything (specifically, .wav > files to MP3 files). > > yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 04:59:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA24385; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:57:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:57:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000001c0eb41$d4db0920$13856fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: "Stephen P. Goodman" , References: <200106012248.SAA00617@hemlock.violacea.com> <00cd01c0eb21$6607a8c0$6e42f93f@dnlsh01> <009401c0eb29$16c6fce0$0201a8c0@stephen> Subject: Re: recording of Loop.pooL performance (openining for the Residents) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:45:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What do you need Steve? Transfer from MD to CD? I can do that if you pop your MD in the post I'll sort it out for you - pro bono. Gareth lidoffadaffodil > I'm sorry I don't live in the US anymore, as I've got an MD of my first UK > performance over Easter weekend, but of course no MD player. If I did I'd > volunteer to do the transfer gratis. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:07:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32581; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:05:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:05:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:04:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200106021004.AA1479409872@mail.woodford-way.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Mark Woodford" Reply-To: To: Subject: Boss RC-20 Loop Station X-Mailer: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been lurking in your web site archive, but I'm new to the list. You can check me out at my web site http://woodford-way.com... Pretty much says it all. I understand you're looking for an RC-20 review. I'm not the most qualified looper around, but a rookie review is better than nothing I suppose. I bought the RC-20 mostly for practice and so far it's been alot of fun. This is my first interactive looper. I usually record into my computer to make backing tracks, which works fine but isn't very spontaneous. With the RC-20 I can record backing tracks for a whole verse/chorus, rhythm guitar baseline and maybe a some rhythmic lead work, then solo until I get sick of it... probably old had to you loopers, but brand new to me. The sound quality is very good. I haven't A/B compared it to my CD quality computer sound, but I haven't noticed any degredation either, except after I layer too many tracks and it starts to clip... There is a quantizer/simple drum machine which is both nice and a pain in the butt. The drum goes "snare-kick-kick-kick", which doesn't fit any songs I play, but it's better than a metronome, and you can turn down the volume but I can't figure out how to turn it off and leave it off. The quantizer really wants to be on. I've used it all sorts of different ways and they all seem to work fine including: - acoustic/piezo guitar into mixer through SRM450s - vg8 guitar into mixer through SRM450s - strat into fender pro reverb amp - bluesbird into marshall JTM-30 Saving loops works well either temporarily to answer the phone or put the kids to bed, or overnight when it's time to go to bed. You can save up to 11 loops, but I've only saved 1. I haven't used the mic input or the line level input. To use the mic input you need a 1/4 inch adapter, which seems lame. I think I'd use a pre-amp instead, if I ever thy to use a mic. There were some questions on the list about whether it is stereo or mono. It is definitely mono. The manual claims you can record 10 loops, then cycle through them, one way forward only via footswitch, as you play, but I haven't tried this. These would NOT be on the fly loops, they would have to be pre-recorded. Perhaps if you have a few rhythm patterns you could pre-record these and use them in a song or maybe use 2 or 3 loops on 3 or 4 songs, otherwise I don't get how one would use this. The 11th loop is a one shot deal that you can record then play back once without looping. The other 10 all continue playing until you stop them. I don't think there is any loop decay. Once you add something to a loop, it continues until you stop. There isn't any undo either, so if you goof up building your loop, your mistake repeats forever until you stop the loop. To erase and start over you simply hold a pedal down for 2 seconds, which works very well for practicing, but I'm not sure about gigging. Thats about all I can think of for now. I hope this helps a little, at least until one of your more experienced loops gets ahold of one of these things. ---mark http://woodford-way.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:31:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00488; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:29:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:29:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B18F876.5CBB65DC@cloud9.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:30:14 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "analogue@hyperreal.org" , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , "nord-modular@code404.com" Subject: electrix blow-out update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I've just spent some time on the phone. Musician's Friends is completely out of Electrix stock and doesn't expect to receive any more - those of us that ordered from them (myself included) can forget it :( Sam Ash still has some of the units in stock (at least the Mo-fx and the eq killer), and is matching the sale price. Zzounds has 3 of the units in stock, but is not (yet) matching the sale price. I reported (through their "price spy" feature) the sale price on the mo-fx; perhaps they will come down. BTW, don't bother calling them; until it shows up at a lower price on the site, they can't be cajoled over the phone (at least not without better technique than mine!!!). If you want to grab these puppies at 80 or 100 dollars, you better move fast! I got "bargainitis" and ordered all five!!! (which I need like a hole-in-the-head ) Elby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:36:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00636; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:35:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:35:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: wavecomputer360@gmx.de Message-ID: <000a01c0eb70$9c5d5240$25a090d4@StephenParsick> To: Subject: Electrix? Repeater? Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:11:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0EB44.02B20AE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0EB44.02B20AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I=B4ve recently been following a thread on Analogue Heaven mailing list = where they were discussing the Electrix blow-out at Guitar Center. This = of course led to some speculations as to whether Electrix are still = doing business or are just about to shut their doors. Some folks claimed = they were blowing out all the filter and EQ stuff in order to = concentrate on the Repeater, others augured it was the last deed by a = company struggling with death. So what is it now? Anybody help me out = here? I mean, I=B4m pretty much fed up with waiting for another glorious = looping tool that, after all, won=B4t see the light of the day. TIA, Stephen. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0EB44.02B20AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
I=B4ve recently been following a thread = on Analogue=20 Heaven mailing list where they were discussing the Electrix blow-out at = Guitar=20 Center. This of course led to some speculations as to whether Electrix = are still=20 doing business or are just about to shut their doors. Some folks claimed = they=20 were blowing out all the filter and EQ stuff in order to concentrate on = the=20 Repeater, others augured it was the last deed by a company struggling = with=20 death. So what is it now? Anybody help me out here? I mean, I=B4m pretty = much fed=20 up with waiting for another glorious looping tool that, after all, = won=B4t see the=20 light of the day.
 
TIA,
 
Stephen.
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0EB44.02B20AE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:44:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01040; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:43:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:43:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:44:56 -0400 Subject: feedback pedal for EDP? From: Tommy Kochel To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The manual for the Echoplex Digital Pro mentions the "popular Boss FV-50" passive volume pedal for use as a feedback controller. I cannot find this specific pedal. Can anyone recommend another such pedal which you are certain will work in this function (say, from the Musician's Friend catalog perhaps)? Thanks. Tommy Kochel Touch Guitar (10-string Warr Guitar) Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro Roland GR-33 Guitar Synthesizer Ashbory Bass Ovation Acoustic/Electric Mandolin Jay Turser 5-string MM bass From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 10:54:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01246; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:53:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:53:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:52:06 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fc.7393e97.284a5796_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_fc.7393e97.284a5796_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all-This is Jon from Alto-The Repeater is coming!It should be shipping on or around June 15.We have a HUGE # on order and plan on filling orders as quickly as possible.From what I understand these units are ready to go and just waiting for the final software upgrade to be installed.Thanks for your patience-I should have more precise news shortly. --part1_fc.7393e97.284a5796_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all-This is Jon from Alto-The Repeater is coming!It should be shipping
on or around June 15.We have a HUGE # on order and plan on filling orders as
quickly as possible.From what I understand these units are ready to go and
just waiting for the final software upgrade to be installed.Thanks for your
patience-I should have more precise news shortly. --part1_fc.7393e97.284a5796_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:03:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02457; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:01:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:01:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:53:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? Message-ID: <20010602.075327.-85119.2.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-18 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi jon, i'm on the repeater order list. do you know what the price is going to be yet? thanks! tony On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:52:06 EDT JHKNICKS@aol.com writes: > Hello all-This is Jon from Alto-The Repeater is coming!It should be > shipping > on or around June 15.We have a HUGE # on order and plan on filling > orders as > quickly as possible.From what I understand these units are ready to > go and > just waiting for the final software upgrade to be installed.Thanks > for your > patience-I should have more precise news shortly. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:06:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02784; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:05:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:05:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:04:46 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e.db27499.284a5a8e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e.db27499.284a5a8e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't want to disclose it until I am getting ready to ship-I can gurantee you will be happy.Thanks --part1_e.db27499.284a5a8e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't want to disclose it until I am getting ready to ship-I can gurantee
you will be happy.Thanks --part1_e.db27499.284a5a8e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:15:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03044; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:13:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:13:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602080937.00aedec0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 08:09:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wavecomputer360@gmx.de (12:11 AM 06.02.2001) wrote: >I´ve recently been following a thread on Analogue Heaven mailing list >where they were discussing the Electrix blow-out at Guitar Center. This of >course led to some speculations as to whether Electrix are still doing >business or are just about to shut their doors. Some folks claimed they >were blowing out all the filter and EQ stuff in order to concentrate on >the Repeater, others augured it was the last deed by a company struggling >with death. So what is it now? Anybody help me out here? I mean, I´m >pretty much fed up with waiting for another glorious looping tool that, >after all, won´t see the light of the day. When Darwin (ddg@) posted the "last deed" email, I wrote to my contacts at Electrix. I got an answer back while the thread was still hot, and that response is what I had posted saying that Electrix is in fact discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. My contact also confirmed that Repeaters are built, packed in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still looking at shipping very soon. It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're seeing happen with Electrix. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:19:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03288; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:18:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:18:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:09:46 -0700 Subject: Re: electrix blow-out update Message-ID: <20010602.080947.-85119.6.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-5,7-30 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com so who'd you talk to elby? was that at sam ash? i just got off the phone with them and they said they had none in stock and couldn't get any. bummer... tony On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:30:14 -0400 Mountain Man writes: > Well, I've just spent some time on the phone. Musician's Friends is > completely out of Electrix stock and doesn't expect to receive any > more > - those of us that ordered from them (myself included) can forget it > :( Sam Ash still has some of the units in stock (at least the > Mo-fx > and the eq killer), and is matching the sale price. Zzounds has 3 > of > the units in stock, but is not (yet) matching the sale price. I > reported (through their "price spy" feature) the sale price on the > mo-fx; perhaps they will come down. BTW, don't bother calling them; > until it shows up at a lower price on the site, they can't be > cajoled > over the phone (at least not without better technique than mine!!!). > > If you want to grab these puppies at 80 or 100 dollars, you better > move > fast! I got "bargainitis" and ordered all five!!! (which I need > like a > hole-in-the-head ) > > Elby > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 11:59:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03797; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:57:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:57:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010602115612.007ba150@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:56:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: feedback pedal for EDP? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Musicians Friend carries the FV-50 in both low- and high-impedance models, product #'s 151317 and 151318 respectively. At 10:44 AM 6/2/01 -0400, you wrote: >The manual for the Echoplex Digital Pro mentions the "popular Boss FV-50" >passive volume pedal for use as a feedback controller. I cannot find this >specific pedal. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 14:07:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08558; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:05:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:05:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:01:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Electrix blow-out update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just heard from my Electrix contact that Guitar Center and Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more stock. The stores may _NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more gear to them. It should ship from Electrix to them this coming week. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 14:18:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08859; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:17:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:17:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Eric Zang" To: Subject: amazing jaw harp cd Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:26:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com For a great exclusively jaw/jew harp cd check this one out: Jew's Harps of the World by Tran Quang Hai Label: PlayaSound You can get it for less than $6 at www.cybermusicsurplus.com a good source for world music at typically $8-9 each cd. Has sound clips for most cds including the above. Get free shipping for orders $30 or over. Obviously I like this site. Eric Zang http://listen.to/zang World Music in AZ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 16:12:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12524; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:10:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:10:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004d01c0eb9e$a4d115a0$64b4a8c0@mindspring.com> From: "phalen orion" To: Subject: [southern california show] Epselon vs. Hilflos Kind June 2 & June 9 in Orange County Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:58:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Abstract DJ group Epselon vs. electronic experimental / new traditional sound artist Hilfos Kind for your listening pleasure there will be: live percussion, turntablism, flute, abstract layering, looping, feedback processing, circuit bent and homebuilt instruments ... this is not something to miss. THIS MUSIC IS ORGANIC, AND HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS CINEMATIC You can get a sample and hear more h.k. music by going to: http://www.hilfloskind.com/shows.html JUNE 2: 10:00 PM at AAA Electra 99 Art Gallery in Anaheim, CA 2821 E. WhiteStar Ave, Unit D http://www.aaaelectra99.com/ 714.666.1805 JUNE 9: 2:00 PM at the Lab Anti-Mall in Costa Mesa, CA 2930 Bristol Street http://www.antimall.com/ 714.966.6660 Call for directions, or visit each venue's website. If you have any questions, go ahead and reply to me personally. I hope to see you all at the show.... Best, phalen180 aka hilflos kind http://www.infin8ty.com/ -- oneinfin8tyzero: a digital artists collective http://www.hilfloskind.com/ -- hilflos kind: music for the human machine From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 16:55:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA13165; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:52:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:52:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:34:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:01 AM -0700 6/2/01, Mark Pulver wrote: >I just heard from my Electrix contact that Guitar Center and >Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more stock. The stores may >_NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more gear to them. > >It should ship from Electrix to them this coming week. > >Mark That jibes with what the customer service guy at MF told me. Lets hope. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 18:10:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16709; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:08:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:08:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: tri.tran@baesystems.com Content-return: allowed Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:07:44 -0500 Subject: RE: Electrix blow-out update To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0EBB0.73597D70" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EBB0.73597D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I went to my local Guitar Center and they told me the same thing. They have the same price is Musician's Friend. -----Original Message----- From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 3:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update At 11:01 AM -0700 6/2/01, Mark Pulver wrote: >I just heard from my Electrix contact that Guitar Center and >Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more stock. The stores may >_NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more gear to them. > >It should ship from Electrix to them this coming week. > >Mark That jibes with what the customer service guy at MF told me. Lets hope. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EBB0.73597D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Electrix blow-out update

I went to my local Guitar Center and they told me the = same thing.  They have the same price is Musician's Friend.

-----Original Message-----
From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com]<= /FONT>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 3:34 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update


At 11:01 AM -0700 6/2/01, Mark Pulver wrote:
>I just heard from my Electrix contact that = Guitar Center and
>Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more = stock. The stores may
>_NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more = gear to them.
>
>It should ship from Electrix to them this coming = week.
>
>Mark

That jibes with what the customer service guy at MF = told me. Lets hope.
--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. = The unreasonable man
persists in adapting the world to himself. = Therefore, all progress
depends on the unreasonable man.

--  George Bernard Shaw

        =         Emile = Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer  =         =         Image Processing = Specialist
Video for your HEAD!    =         =         Boris FX
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EBB0.73597D70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 19:28:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19777; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:25:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:25:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 16:22:39 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com FYI - Guitar Center in Sherman Oaks (L.A. area) has Electrix processors in stock at the blow-out price. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 20:10:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21527; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:08:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:08:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B190FD0.DE7284C0@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 16:09:52 +0000 From: joe & sheila Reply-To: onelonecrow@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com FYI #2 - Just got back from Guitar Center Sherman Oaks. Picked up the MO-FX after checking out the Electrix site to find that this unit has looping abilities. ( about 1 sec. ) Serious fun for the money. best to all joe Richard Zvonar wrote: > FYI - Guitar Center in Sherman Oaks (L.A. area) has Electrix > processors in stock at the blow-out price. > -- > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 20:13:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21651; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:12:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:12:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006901c0ebc2$42857840$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:15:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am happy to hear that people in some cities can experience what must be the profoundly marvelous experience of walking into a major name music store and walking out without feeling a little walletstung. Hopefully though for those of us in more remote areas the online counterparts will come through. Good luck to us all, I say. Jon > FYI - Guitar Center in Sherman Oaks (L.A. area) has Electrix > processors in stock at the blow-out price. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 22:04:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25289; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:02:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:02:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.20010602205417.27bf25ea@pclink.com> X-Sender: thissong@pclink.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (16) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 20:54:17 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Helmen Subject: RC-20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, First time poster, though I've done a fair amound of lurking on the archives on the web. I'm not really a looper yet, but am hoping to get into it quite soon. Most of my performances are as a solo singer-songwriter playing acoustic guitar. My primary use of a looper would be to create grooves and backgrounds to solo over. There would be more to it than that, I know, but that's the main use. The LD4 looks great to me, with all the features and flexibilty I would need, except for the 14.4 second maximum on loops. So I've been intrigued by the RC-20. I tried it out for a while at Guitar Center today, with the clerk hanging right there, since they had just got one unit in and he was very interested himself. Having up to 5.5 minutes for a loop is a HUGE plus. I'm not interested in using any pre-recorded loops, so I think I could clear those out and have the entire memory available for a live loop. But there seems to be one main drawback as far as I can tell. With the LD4, when you are recording a loop and want to set the end point, depending on the switch you use you can have the loop start again either in play mode or overdub mode, a nice flexibility. But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same flexibilty. You set the end point of the loop and have it restart by hitting the left switch. This leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode on the LD4. To get into overdub mode you have to hit the same switch again. I imagine with practice one could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd never be able to get to a mode where you're overdubbing right from the re-start of the loop. This seems like it would be a real pain. I'd love to know there is a way around this. The other thing is the lack of the function the expression pedal adds to the LD4 of controlling the loop level. The question is whether the much longer loop time compensates for this. I'm thinking it might end up doing do for me. But if someone could tell me I'm missing something about how to go right into overdub mode, that would be great... Tim Helmen Debut CD "Room For Cream" available June 2001 info at http://TimHelmen.com tim@TimHelmen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 22:12:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25638; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:10:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:10:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.181] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff? Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 02:09:23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2001 02:09:23.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[35584250:01C0EBD2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Oooops, I forgot that I am such a "Computer Nerd". Typing Of The Dead, is a video game, from those fine folks at SEGA. It's based on the 'House Of The Dead" video games, which you have probably seen being played in your local arcade, or movie house. Well this game is different, instead of out-right shooting the Axe wielding Zombie, words appear under the baddie, and to kill him, you have to "Type" the word (on your keyboard) to dispose of him. Download it from http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-1635591-100-4588416.html?tag=st.dl.10001-103-1.lst-7-1.4588416 . It helps with your typin skills, and the words that pop up, aren't your typical "Run Jane Run" level words... try typing "xenodochium" while a puss oozing Zombie with an Axe is running toward you !

----Original Message Follows----
From: lance glover
Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ACID and ACID stuff?
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 15:41:20 -0700
Devious D_MasterMixer wrote:
>
>
> Touche' my man... I think I used the wrong "word" in describing the
> info that floats through these post "ARCHAIC", was not the word I
> wanted. It was 4:00 am, and I was play "Typing Of The Dead", and I
> went a little, bonkers. I wanted to use a word that meant "of obscure
> nature", but I slipped..... sorry.
>
hey
i wuz jus riding you a bit. no worries!
lance g.
ps: yes, matt davignon is his real name...but i think his eyebrows are
fake...
pps: sorry to be a dweeb, but what's "typing of the dead"? is this some
kind of j. garcia seance on an old IBM?

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 2 22:17:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26198; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:16:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:16:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.181] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] TRADE-Sound Effects ? Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 02:15:36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2001 02:15:36.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[13C52D50:01C0EBD3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I need some help with a sound effect, that I had gotten on tape, with a JVC tape deck (back in 1984). The effect was of a Train, but the clarity, and production level were really good. The tape was destroyed, and the effect's name has been forgotten by me. I used it a lot in mixes as a transition effect, (back then, to hide the glitches in my mixes... I was young, dumb, and full of...) well I want that effect. It was of some Japanese train, that is all I remember about the effect. Anyone remember this one ?

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From: "tim.dalchau"
Reply-To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com
To:
Subject: Re: [Samplestation] TRADE
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:42:14 +0100
Hi there. I'm up for it what do you want?

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 02:39:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00700; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:36:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:36:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B19DAAE.1FA612D6@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 23:35:30 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010602110113.021035b0@mulder.intermag.com> <006901c0ebc2$42857840$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com btw, The Guitar Center owns Musician's friend. I must say that I got a warpfactory (too much fun!) and a mo-fx (even though I have gear that already does most of what it does, at that price who could resist?) at the Guitar Center in Concord CA, they may still have some... Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 02:46:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00876; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:44:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:44:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Barr Plexico" To: Subject: RE: Electrix blow-out update Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:45:50 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: <3B19DAAE.1FA612D6@zerocrossing.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks to the tip from this list I was able to get a Filter Factory, Mo-FX, and EQ Killer today at the GC in Concord, had to hunt around for a while as they had the boxes laying innocently at the floor of the counter without any sign denoting they were on sale (still had the list price stickers on them), unfortunately they were out on the Warp Factory - but what a deal for $300...! As Mark said, at those prices how can one resist? -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:36 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update btw, The Guitar Center owns Musician's friend. I must say that I got a warpfactory (too much fun!) and a mo-fx (even though I have gear that already does most of what it does, at that price who could resist?) at the Guitar Center in Concord CA, they may still have some... Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 07:06:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09100; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:03:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:03:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1A19BB.BAAE058C@cloud9.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 07:04:28 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #273 References: <200106030646.CAA00941@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tony, I called my local sam ash in White Plains, NY. They told me they have a "mess of" mo-fx's, and at least at that point had the eq-killer as well. Good luck. Elby Subject: Re: electrix blow-out update Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:09:46 -0700 From: Tony Moore To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com so who'd you talk to elby? was that at sam ash? i just got off the phone with them and they said they had none in stock and couldn't get any. bummer... tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 09:07:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11841; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:05:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:05:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002701c0ec2d$0060c800$0a00a8c0@telocity.net> From: "Mark Woodford" To: "Tim Helmen" , References: <3.0.5.16.20010602205417.27bf25ea@pclink.com> Subject: Re: RC-20 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:59:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com To record a loop and NOT have it start looping right away you just have to press the RIGHT footswitch. When you are recording: RIGHT footswitch = STOP recording LEFT footswitch = STOP recording, START repeating ---mark http://woodford-way.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Helmen" To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: RC-20 snip > But there seems to be one main drawback as far as I can tell. With the LD4, > when you are recording a loop and want to set the end point, depending on > the switch you use you can have the loop start again either in play mode or > overdub mode, a nice flexibility. > > But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same flexibilty. You set the > end point of the loop and have it restart by hitting the left switch. This > leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode on the LD4. To get into > overdub mode you have to hit the same switch again. I imagine with practice > one could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd never be able to > get to a mode where you're overdubbing right from the re-start of the loop. > > This seems like it would be a real pain. I'd love to know there is a way > around this. > snip From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 10:58:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14332; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:56:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:56:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007e01c0ec3c$c18844e0$99456f40@oemcomputer> From: "petr" To: "Tommy Kochel" , References: Subject: Re: feedback pedal for EDP? Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:51:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Reply-To: petr@tryi.com X-Return-Path: petr@tryi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Subject: feedback pedal for EDP? I am using Proel PVP 14 L. It can be ordered from MF or elsewhere, it is very cheap and seems quite reliable. _________________________________________ Petr Dolák music * poetry * guitar looping * commodion * percussion web site: www.geocities.com/pepetr music samples: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/229/petr_dolak_samojsky.html > The manual for the Echoplex Digital Pro mentions the "popular Boss FV-50" > passive volume pedal for use as a feedback controller. I cannot find this > specific pedal. Can anyone recommend another such pedal which you are > certain will work in this function (say, from the Musician's Friend catalog > perhaps)? > > Thanks. > > Tommy Kochel > Touch Guitar (10-string Warr Guitar) > Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro > Roland GR-33 Guitar Synthesizer > Ashbory Bass > Ovation Acoustic/Electric Mandolin > Jay Turser 5-string MM bass > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 11:25:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15825; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:24:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:24:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c0ec41$37e8b1c0$8b83abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: Subject: midi continous control Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:23:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi guys, I digged in the archive, but I couldn't find the postings related to this topic: when using midi continous control by pedals (like ev-5 or any other voltage ones), it happens the complete midi range is not reached. a 10 K. potentiometer arrives to the 75/84 % of the range. i remember we discussed about the modifications we had to do in the potentiometer's resistance, but i don't find any trace of it. someone has a better memory ? thanks for the time, luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 11:39:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16032; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:38:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:38:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:31:00 -0700 Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update Message-ID: <20010603.083101.-136421.0.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-8,10-35 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com fwiw, the guitar center in hollywood also has all the electrix stuff at the m-f price. i too fell prey :-( tho' i spent some time with the filter factory and mo-fx last night and wow, they are indeed fun. i'm going out today to buy two more. these are very useful toys! thanks for the tip! tony On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:34:11 -0400 "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" writes: > At 11:01 AM -0700 6/2/01, Mark Pulver wrote: > >I just heard from my Electrix contact that Guitar Center and > >Musician's Friend *WILL* be receiving more stock. The stores may > >_NOT_ know this, but Electrix *IS* shipping more gear to them. > > > >It should ship from Electrix to them this coming week. > > > >Mark > > That jibes with what the customer service guy at MF told me. Lets > hope. > -- > > "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable > man > persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress > depends on the unreasonable man. > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 11:58:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16309; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:57:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:57:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:49:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #273 Message-ID: <20010603.084907.-136421.5.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-6,8-36 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks elby! i found them at a local guitar center (hollywood), but had to pay that nasty 8% cali sales tax... take care, tony On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 07:04:28 -0400 Mountain Man writes: > Tony, I called my local sam ash in White Plains, NY. They told me > they have a "mess of" mo-fx's, and at least at that point had the > eq-killer as well. Good luck. > > Elby > > > Subject: > Re: electrix blow-out update > Date: > Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:09:46 -0700 > From: > Tony Moore > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > so who'd you talk to elby? was that at sam ash? i just got off the > phone > > with them and they said they had none in stock and couldn't get any. > bummer... > > tony > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 13:17:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19288; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:15:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:15:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.20010603120749.2c772a2c@pclink.com> X-Sender: thissong@pclink.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (16) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 12:07:49 To: "Mark Woodford" , From: Tim Helmen Subject: Re: RC-20 In-Reply-To: <002701c0ec2d$0060c800$0a00a8c0@telocity.net> References: <3.0.5.16.20010602205417.27bf25ea@pclink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 07:59 AM 6/3/01 -0500, Mark Woodford wrote: >To record a loop and NOT have it start looping right away >you just have to press the RIGHT footswitch. > >When you are recording: > RIGHT footswitch = STOP recording > LEFT footswitch = STOP recording, START repeating > Correct. But what I want to be able to do is have it start looping immediately, but to be in overdub mode at the same time. With the RC-20, what you seem to have to do is hit the left switch to start repeating right away, which will be in play mode, and then hit the same switch again to get into overdub mode. Once in overdub mode, it keeps looping, allowing you to add as many layers as you want, until you either stop or switch out of overdub mode. So that's cool. The problem is you can't go from your original pass right into overdub mode at the top of the loop. Tim Helmen Debut CD "Room For Cream" available June 2001 info at http://TimHelmen.com tim@TimHelmen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 13:19:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19387; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:18:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:18:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <65.15480c57.284bcace@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:15:58 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com afaik, there's nothing wrong w/electrix..... other than what might be considered 'usual', for the moderately brain-bent. fweep, splatt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 14:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21522; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:20:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:20:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1A7FCF.3B22F479@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 11:20:04 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix? Repeater? References: <65.15480c57.284bcace@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7xtGnB.A.HQF.b_nG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, If anyone want's insight into the world of gear manufacturing, pick up the book "Vintage Synthesizers: Groundbreaking Instruments and Pioneering Designers of Electronic Music Synthesizers by Mark Vail" it's a very fun read. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0879302755/qid=991592099/sr=1-2/ref=sc_b_2/002-4495200-3041626 Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 14:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21521; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:20:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:20:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:19:50 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d9.15681bc9.284bd9c6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_d9.15681bc9.284bd9c6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit help.....who can i e-mail to get these tasty morsels, none of the stores here in pittsburgh have them and i just got off the phone with MF and they are out and according to this fellow will not be getting more in (im aware that there was a post to the contrary here on LD).....any help would be wonderful.....thanks.....michael --part1_d9.15681bc9.284bd9c6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit help.....who can i e-mail to get these tasty morsels, none of the stores here
in pittsburgh have them and i just got off the phone with MF and they are out
and according to this fellow will not be getting more in (im aware that there
was a post to the contrary here on LD).....any help would be
wonderful.....thanks.....michael --part1_d9.15681bc9.284bd9c6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 16:07:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25872; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:04:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:04:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000301c0eb9f$1798ef40$7aaa5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #219 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:02:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #219 May 31, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank Concert series in the UK. The feature CD at midnight was the disc by Paul Nagle from the Neu Harmony six CDR set, Concerts at Jodrell Bank. Jodrell Bank Concert http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#may PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Spacecraft Fragile Cybersphere (SpaceForMusic.com) Spacecraft Tunnel Cybersphere (SpaceForMusic.com) Spacecraft House of Gaudi Cybersphere (SpaceForMusic.com) VA [Pete Namlook] Mindlab Zeitlos (Waldorf Records) VA [Tranzit] Cold Trip Sequences No. 25 (none) VA [Dweller at the World Without End Dreamwatchers' Tales (none) Threshold] Tranquillity Harbinger Core (Invisible Shadows) OZMA Actualia 1 A Hige and Silent Place (Atomic City) OZMA Lalande 21185 A Hige and Silent Place (Atomic City) 12:00 am Under The Dome Launch UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome Drift UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome Flussiger Vier-Takter UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome The Long Rain UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome Demon Haunted Megamix UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Under The Dome 4Q2ND UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on the German trio Pyramid Peak. The feature CD at midnight will be "Random Elements" on Torsten Kuhn's Invisible Shadows record label. Pyramid Peak http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#jun Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 16:13:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26068; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:11:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:11:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <82.b756f59.284bf3ed@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:11:25 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_82.b756f59.284bf3ed_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <9R4q3B.A.JXG.znpG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_82.b756f59.284bf3ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit not to beat a dead horse, and to make a long story short.....:).....went to MF web site and just ordered the goodies and it said on the site backordered till 6-10-01.....so i assume they will be getting another shipment.....i put this order on my mastercard.....then i called MF on the phone to cancel a guitar stand that i purchased earlier in the day out of frustration for them not having the electrix gear and them saying they were not getting any in.....very poor in house comunications, web site different than live people (go figure).....now here is the good part, i asked if i could get one of their MF creditcards (no interest for 90 days) and take my order off my mastercard, "yes we can do that" spoketh the young lady and they gave me an additional 5% off the 99$ sale price for getting their card.....IF this all works out, i will once again be totally amazed by our wonderful system of doing business in this country.....:).....i may never leave my room again.....michael --part1_82.b756f59.284bf3ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit not to beat a dead horse, and to make a long story short.....:).....went to
MF web site and just ordered the goodies and it said on the site backordered
till 6-10-01.....so i assume they will be getting another shipment.....i put
this order on my mastercard.....then i called MF on the phone to cancel a
guitar stand that i purchased earlier in the day out of frustration for them
not having the electrix gear and them saying they were not getting any
in.....very poor in house comunications, web site different than live people
(go figure).....now here is the good part, i asked if i could get one of
their MF creditcards (no interest for 90 days) and take my order off my
mastercard, "yes we can do that" spoketh the young lady and they gave me an
additional 5% off the 99$ sale price for getting their card.....IF this all
works out, i will once again be totally amazed by our wonderful system of
doing business in this country.....:).....i may never leave my room
again.....michael --part1_82.b756f59.284bf3ed_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 17:23:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27803; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:14:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:14:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010603211426.3397.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:14:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: re: RC-20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 20:54:17 From: tim@timhelmen.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RC-20 >>My primary use of a looper would be to create grooves and backgrounds to solo over. There would be more to it than that, I know, but that's the main use. There seems to be one main drawback as far as I can tell. With the LD4, when you are recording a loop and want to set the end point, depending on the switch you use you can have the loop start again either in play mode or overdub mode, a nice flexibility.<< Hi Tim, the RC-20 will enable you to be precise with loop timing but you are right, you have to for the most part loop by ear, it also doesn't have a delete mode for overdubs so you have to be really careful in what you play for through composed music. The LD4 does a better job but as you already know has brief loop times. For live use you have to look at more expensive solutions. I prefer the Boomerang because although you have to learn to get your loops together you can have two different loops, what's more you have slower speeds, down to one octave which, if you record at will play guitar and bass with good fidelity while giving you close to 4 minutes of loop time. As for the RC-20 you can pre-program your songs and break down compositions to the 10 different memory structures, but that's not nearly enough for a full set if that's what you intend to do. Also, there is a lot of foot dancing going on with the RC-20. Personally, I like it as a tabletop unit although live I may just use it as a floor system. In my project studio it's usually on the desktop. >> But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same flexibilty. You set the end point of the loop and have it restart by hitting the left switch. This leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode on the LD4. To get into overdub mode you have to hit the same switch again. I imagine with practice one could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd never be able to get to a mode where you're overdubbing right from the re-start of the loop. << This is correct, but it is very easy to overdub as you are working, example; I make a loop, I press the left footswitch and the RC-20 plays back my previous music. I can tap the pedal as the loop is playing and overdub as I see fit. Again, you need to move up in price to get the features you are discussing. The Echoplex line has some nice features but are difficult to find and not always the most realtime friendly. I like the Boomerang but don't want to make this a commercial for the product. Even if you chose that device you'd still be unable to loop without immediately replaying. IMO any inexpensive looper will require some adptation, especially learning how to loop realtime and seamlessly. It can be done, it just takes a bit of practice. >> This seems like it would be a real pain. I'd love to know there is a way around this. << Not really. You could use the memory locations and switch between them, that's about it. >> The other thing is the lack of the function the expression pedal adds to the LD4 of controlling the loop level. << Yes, this is a serious oversight although you can control the pedal's loop level if you use it as a desktop unit, there are controls for inputs on the mic and instrument inputs and for the loop level, you just can't get to them with the pedal on the floor. >> The question is whether the much longer loop time compensates for this. I'm thinking it might end up doing do for me. But if someone could tell me I'm missing something about how to go right into overdub mode, that would be great... << You only have a minimal lag if you are not tying the RC-20 to auto quantize. Played without timing features you press the left pedal and you start looping, press agan and end the loop, you have to get it right but that probably won't be as hard as you may think. All you have to do to overdub is press the left pedal as you like to hit overdub mode. You don't have the luxury of access to existing controls beyond an optional footpedal for reverse and clicking forward through the saved loops. The LM4 isn't any easier to use IMO, again, the next step up for on the fly use is the Rang and is more expensive but has a control for loop level on the footpedal, lets you program it for 2 different loops and whether it's hi or lo fidelity. But you will pay another $200 for these features. The LM4 is nice as a taste of looping but if you have any kind of effects unit such as a GT series from Boss or Korg's AX1000G you can get many of the same effects found in the LM4 as well some good amp and cabinet simulations for about $250 - 300 USD. One thing to consider, the RC-20 can get noisy in it's output. It's not noticible when in a mix but as your sole pedal and if you're using it for song structures you will need a gate to keep it quiet. Hope this helps, Bruce http://www.artistlaunch.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 18:27:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29681; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:15:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:15:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: Electrix blow-out Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:05:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EC3E.9D4AB3E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <82.b756f59.284bf3ed@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EC3E.9D4AB3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since we're telling stories like this. I went to my local GC yesterday in Portland OR, circling that display rack yesterday like a vulture, and it was down to the bones, picked pretty clean. Bought their last Mo-FX, demo for $90, no box or manual. FYI, All the manuals are downloadable PDFs from www.electrixpro.com They said there were plenty of units around in their northwest warehouses, so I should have a Filter Factory in a few days. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Nemoguitt@aol.com [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:11 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out not to beat a dead horse, and to make a long story short.....:).....went to MF web site and just ordered the goodies and it said on the site backordered till 6-10-01.....so i assume they will be getting another shipment.....i put this order on my mastercard.....then i called MF on the phone to cancel a guitar stand that i purchased earlier in the day out of frustration for them not having the electrix gear and them saying they were not getting any in.....very poor in house comunications, web site different than live people (go figure).....now here is the good part, i asked if i could get one of their MF creditcards (no interest for 90 days) and take my order off my mastercard, "yes we can do that" spoketh the young lady and they gave me an additional 5% off the 99$ sale price for getting their card.....IF this all works out, i will once again be totally amazed by our wonderful system of doing business in this country.....:).....i may never leave my room again.....michael ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EC3E.9D4AB3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since=20 we're telling stories like this. I went to my local GC yesterday in = Portland OR,=20 circling=20 that display rack yesterday like a vulture, and it was down to the = bones, picked=20 pretty clean.  Bought their last Mo-FX, demo for = $90, no=20 box or manual. FYI, All the manuals are downloadable PDFs from www.electrixpro.com  They = said there=20 were plenty of units around in their northwest warehouses, so I should = have a=20 Filter Factory in a few days.
 
Neil
 
 
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From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:11=20 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 Electrix blow-out

not to beat a dead horse, and to make a long story=20 short.....:).....went to
MF web site and just ordered the goodies = and it=20 said on the site backordered
till 6-10-01.....so i assume they = will be=20 getting another shipment.....i put
this order on my = mastercard.....then i=20 called MF on the phone to cancel a
guitar stand that i purchased = earlier=20 in the day out of frustration for them
not having the electrix = gear and=20 them saying they were not getting any
in.....very poor in house=20 comunications, web site different than live people
(go = figure).....now=20 here is the good part, i asked if i could get one of
their MF = creditcards=20 (no interest for 90 days) and take my order off my
mastercard, = "yes we can=20 do that" spoketh the young lady and they gave me an
additional 5% = off the=20 99$ sale price for getting their card.....IF this all
works out, i = will=20 once again be totally amazed by our wonderful system of
doing = business in=20 this country.....:).....i may never leave my room =
again.....michael=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0EC3E.9D4AB3E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 21:31:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03185; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:29:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:29:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: <31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:28:29 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out update To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i too did not resist - got the 3 big pieces plus eq killer for $379 - at sam ash huntington (ny) - now experimenting with them - what a stroke of good fortune! harry --part1_31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i too did not resist - got the 3 big pieces plus eq killer for $379 - at sam
ash huntington (ny) - now experimenting with them - what a stroke of good
fortune!

harry --part1_31.15c53f2d.284c3e3d_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 3 22:51:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05441; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:50:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:50:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PA5CALIO@aol.com Message-ID: <6e.b232173.284c5129@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:49:13 EDT Subject: Random Music Generator Software Questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6e.b232173.284c5129_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_6e.b232173.284c5129_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody! I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music. I've been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko. I have two questions. 1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? 2) I want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow me to do this. I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but does anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run multiple sound programs with only one soundcard? Thanks a lot -pascal --part1_6e.b232173.284c5129_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody!

I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my
rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music.  I've
been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko.  I have two questions.

1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators?

2) I want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow
me to do this.  I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but does
anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run multiple sound
programs with only one soundcard?

Thanks a lot
-pascal --part1_6e.b232173.284c5129_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 00:22:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08890; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:20:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:20:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1B0E75.419C@Hevanet.Com.> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 21:28:38 -0700 From: DaViD AuKeR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix blow-out update References: <200106040131.VAA03246@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My thanks, also, for this list pointing me in the direction of the great deal on the Filter Factory...I've been wanting one for a long time! Also will try the EQ Killer. David Synth/flute/EDP/DL4... "Barr Plexico" said: > > Thanks to the tip from this list I was able to get a Filter Factory, Mo-FX, > and EQ Killer today at the GC in Concord, had to hunt around for a while as > they had the boxes laying innocently at the floor of the counter without any > sign denoting they were on sale (still had the list price stickers on them), > unfortunately they were out on the Warp Factory - but what a deal for > $300...! As Mark said, at those prices how can one resist? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 00:37:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09331; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:36:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:36:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010603224052.007d71d0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:40:52 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: RC-20 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.20010602205417.27bf25ea@pclink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <3DOIxD.A.mQC.-AxG7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tim, actually, the DL-4 allows for a 28 sec. looptime. If you switch it into it's "slower" mode, before you record a loop, the time is doubled. So far, I've not noticed any loss of fidelity. As for the RC-20 specifics, I'm not completely familiar with them, but it seems to me you'd be able to record a blank loop of your desired time, terminate it, and then restart it in record mode, but then actually begin recording sound. -Hope this made some sense, and might be of some help. -Good luck!, K? Smiles, G At 08:54 PM 6/2/01, you wrote: >Hi, > >First time poster, though I've done a fair amound of lurking on the >archives on the web. > >I'm not really a looper yet, but am hoping to get into it quite soon. Most >of my performances are as a solo singer-songwriter playing acoustic guitar. >My primary use of a looper would be to create grooves and backgrounds to >solo over. There would be more to it than that, I know, but that's the main >use. > >The LD4 looks great to me, with all the features and flexibilty I would >need, except for the 14.4 second maximum on loops. So I've been intrigued >by the RC-20. > >I tried it out for a while at Guitar Center today, with the clerk hanging >right there, since they had just got one unit in and he was very interested >himself. > >Having up to 5.5 minutes for a loop is a HUGE plus. I'm not interested in >using any pre-recorded loops, so I think I could clear those out and have >the entire memory available for a live loop. > >But there seems to be one main drawback as far as I can tell. With the LD4, >when you are recording a loop and want to set the end point, depending on >the switch you use you can have the loop start again either in play mode or >overdub mode, a nice flexibility. > >But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same flexibilty. You set the >end point of the loop and have it restart by hitting the left switch. This >leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode on the LD4. To get into >overdub mode you have to hit the same switch again. I imagine with practice >one could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd never be able to >get to a mode where you're overdubbing right from the re-start of the loop. > >This seems like it would be a real pain. I'd love to know there is a way >around this. > >The other thing is the lack of the function the expression pedal adds to >the LD4 of controlling the loop level. > >The question is whether the much longer loop time compensates for this. I'm >thinking it might end up doing do for me. But if someone could tell me I'm >missing something about how to go right into overdub mode, that would be >great... > > > > >Tim Helmen >Debut CD "Room For Cream" available June 2001 >info at http://TimHelmen.com >tim@TimHelmen.com > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 01:15:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA11063; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 01:14:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 01:14:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: Random Music Generator Software Questions Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:13:13 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0ECF8.1C850CA0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <6e.b232173.284c5129@aol.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0ECF8.1C850CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On a PC anyway, any sound card with direct sound drivers in later versions of windows will allow multiple feeds into your card. as long as your programs use the ds drivers mutliple programs can use the drivers at once and mixing is done by the drivers. otherwise you need a card with multiclient drivers and they start getting expensive. as for programs, try out softstep. its an algorithmic modular midi sequencer, and while not audio per se, it has some amazing features including random generators, fractal generators, bouncing balls. its eminently tweakable. coupled with some good homemade sample sets and you have a winning combination, imho. its at http://algoart.com/. pc only tho, i think. hope this helps omjn -----Original Message----- From: PA5CALIO@aol.com [mailto:PA5CALIO@aol.com] Sent: Monday, 4 June 2001 10:49 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Random Music Generator Software Questions Hi Everybody! I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music. I've been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko. I have two questions. 1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? 2) I want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow me to do this. I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but does anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run multiple sound programs with only one soundcard? Thanks a lot -pascal ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0ECF8.1C850CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On a = PC anyway,=20 any sound card with direct sound drivers in later versions of windows = will allow=20 multiple feeds into your card.  as long as your programs use the ds = drivers=20 mutliple programs can use the drivers at once and mixing is done by the=20 drivers.  otherwise you need a card with multiclient drivers and = they start=20 getting expensive. 
 
as = for programs,=20 try out softstep.  its an algorithmic modular midi sequencer, and = while not=20 audio per se, it has some amazing features including random generators, = fractal=20 generators, bouncing balls.  its eminently tweakable.  coupled = with=20 some good homemade sample sets and you have a winning combination, = imho. =20 its at http://algoart.com/. =20 pc only tho, i think.
 
hope = this=20 helps
 
omjn
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PA5CALIO@aol.com=20 [mailto:PA5CALIO@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, 4 June 2001 10:49=20 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Random=20 Music Generator Software Questions

Hi Everybody!

I've recently gotten into = using=20 random music generator software with my
rather exxtravagent loop=20 collection to create noisey/chaotic music.  I've
been using = Sound=20 Raider and this program Saiko.  I have two questions.

1) = Does=20 anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? =

2) I=20 want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow =
me=20 to do this.  I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but = does=20
anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run = multiple sound=20
programs with only one soundcard?

Thanks a lot =
-pascal=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0ECF8.1C850CA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 05:31:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA18576; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:28:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:28:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010603211426.3397.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 02:27:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: re: RC-20 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 or whatever other variations you guys are experimenting with... At 2:14 PM -0700 6/3/01, Bruce Satinover wrote: >From: tim@timhelmen.com >> But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same >>flexibilty. You set the end point of the loop and have >>it restart by hitting the left switch. >>This leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode >>on the LD4. To get into overdub mode you have to hit >>the same switch again. I imagine with practice one >>could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd >>never be able to get to a mode where you're >>overdubbing right from the re-start of the >>loop. > >This is correct, but it is very easy to overdub as you >are working, example; I make a loop, I press the left >footswitch and the RC-20 plays back my previous music. >I can tap the pedal as the loop is playing and overdub >as I see fit. fwiw, I think you missed Tim's point there. He wants to have the choice to be immediately overdubbing after he ends record. This technique is commonly used in textural loops, where you want some sustained sound to continue from the end of the loop into the beginning of the loop to make a seamless feel. Also if you were doing some sort of counterpoint thing, you might want to immediately overdub the second line as the loop starts repeating. So you continue to play as you end record enter overdub, and your playing is continuouly added to the loop. I think most loopers do this in some way, and certainly any cheap delay pedal does. It sounds like the RC-20 can't do this after the first loop record without introducing a gap in the overdub as you tap the button a second time to get into overdub. That may be a major problem or no problem at all, depending on what kind of looping you want to do. >Again, you need to move up in price to get the >features you are discussing. hmm, not really. I'm sure they could have done it on the rc-20 if they thought about it. It's just a question of how the user interface is programmed to work. >The Echoplex line has >some nice features but are difficult to find and not >always the most realtime friendly. I think echoplexes are pretty easy to find these days, since Gibson is producing a lot more of them now than they used to. The echoplex is pretty much entirely designed to be real-time friendly, so I'm not sure how you got that impression. In this case, it is probably a good example of what Tim is after. The echoplex always allows you to transition from one function immediately to another with one button press. You never have press a button to end one function then press another button to start the next, so it keeps the foot-tapping to a minimum. So if you are recording a loop, you simply end by pressing whatever function you want to go into. The echoplex stops the record for you, starts the loop repeating, and the new function you want is on, all with one button press. For example, if you end the record by pressing overdub, the loop starts repeating with overdub on. End record with reverse, and it is immediately reversing, etc. Similar with other functions, like going from mulitply right into insert or replace or whatever. To me, that is real-time friendly, because whatever you want to do you just hit it and you're there, with only one button tap. The machine takes care of all the steps in between for you. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 08:03:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22926; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:01:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:01:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <3b.158cda75.284cd26a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:00:42 EDT Subject: Re: RC-20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com of all the stuff that x_bruce@yahoo.com wrote, i quote this bit alone: >The Echoplex line has >some nice features but are difficult to find and not >always the most realtime friendly. hmmm..... can't agree, there. i've found the echoplex incredibly easy to 'use', & certainly more feature-rich than most other 'looping'-devices, onna 'par'-basis: record, overdub, reverse, new end point, new start point, undo, next loop, trigger, re-trigger, midi-sync, etc etc, all at simple foot-taps, without too much digging. (though, 'digging' will *certainly* offer the end-user some satisfaction that boomerang, dl4, rc20 cannot provide.....) mon deux centimes..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 09:13:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24675; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:11:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:11:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:03:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty getting a 'plex in the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top sales guy for Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as Gil, the sales guy in the Simpson's. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] > Sent: 04 June 2001 13:01 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: RC-20 > > > of all the stuff that x_bruce@yahoo.com wrote, i quote this bit alone: > >The Echoplex line has > >some nice features but are difficult to find and not > >always the most realtime friendly. > hmmm..... can't agree, there. > i've found the echoplex incredibly easy to 'use', & certainly more > feature-rich than most other 'looping'-devices, onna 'par'-basis: > record, overdub, reverse, new end point, new start point, > undo, next loop, > trigger, re-trigger, midi-sync, etc etc, > all at simple foot-taps, without too much digging. > (though, 'digging' will *certainly* offer the end-user some > satisfaction that > boomerang, dl4, rc20 cannot provide.....) > mon deux centimes..... > best, > dt / s-c > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 09:19:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24818; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:18:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:18:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1B7@kes.camcare.com> From: "Wegmann, Greg" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:20:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I just purchased the echoplex on Friday and I love it. I got turned on to "looping" in the early seventies when the best loops we could make were done on a reel-to-reel tape deck by splicing the tape together. I spent the whole weekend mesmerized by it... I love this site and hope to learn more! Weg -----Original Message----- From: Andy Ewen [mailto:andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:03 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: RC-20 Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty getting a 'plex in the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top sales guy for Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as Gil, the sales guy in the Simpson's. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] > Sent: 04 June 2001 13:01 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: RC-20 > > > of all the stuff that x_bruce@yahoo.com wrote, i quote this bit alone: > >The Echoplex line has > >some nice features but are difficult to find and not > >always the most realtime friendly. > hmmm..... can't agree, there. > i've found the echoplex incredibly easy to 'use', & certainly more > feature-rich than most other 'looping'-devices, onna 'par'-basis: > record, overdub, reverse, new end point, new start point, > undo, next loop, > trigger, re-trigger, midi-sync, etc etc, > all at simple foot-taps, without too much digging. > (though, 'digging' will *certainly* offer the end-user some > satisfaction that > boomerang, dl4, rc20 cannot provide.....) > mon deux centimes..... > best, > dt / s-c > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 09:35:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA25080; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:34:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:34:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:25:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Great!, tell all your friends; I've just been informed that Gibson have over 200 in their warehouse in Chicago. These need to be sold so we can get paid this month :-)). > -----Original Message----- > From: Wegmann, Greg [mailto:Greg.Wegmann@Camcare.com] > Sent: 04 June 2001 14:20 > To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' > Subject: RE: RC-20 > > > Hi all, > I just purchased the echoplex on Friday and I love it. I > got turned on > to "looping" in the early seventies when the best loops we > could make were > done on a reel-to-reel tape deck by splicing the tape > together. I spent the > whole weekend mesmerized by it... I love this site and hope > to learn more! > > > Weg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Ewen [mailto:andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:03 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: RC-20 > > > Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty > getting a 'plex in > the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top > sales guy for > Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as > Gil, the sales > guy in the Simpson's. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] > > Sent: 04 June 2001 13:01 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: RC-20 > > > > > > of all the stuff that x_bruce@yahoo.com wrote, i quote this > bit alone: > > >The Echoplex line has > > >some nice features but are difficult to find and not > > >always the most realtime friendly. > > hmmm..... can't agree, there. > > i've found the echoplex incredibly easy to 'use', & certainly more > > feature-rich than most other 'looping'-devices, onna 'par'-basis: > > record, overdub, reverse, new end point, new start point, > > undo, next loop, > > trigger, re-trigger, midi-sync, etc etc, > > all at simple foot-taps, without too much digging. > > (though, 'digging' will *certainly* offer the end-user some > > satisfaction that > > boomerang, dl4, rc20 cannot provide.....) > > mon deux centimes..... > > best, > > dt / s-c > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 09:40:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA25351; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:38:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:38:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: THusken@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.162751df.284ce921@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:37:37 EDT Subject: dt sighting? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3f.162751df.284ce921_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10524 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_3f.162751df.284ce921_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -a little off-topic but I had to ask...isn't that a David Torn sample being used quite judiciously during the chorus of that new Madonna single "That what it's like for a girl" ...or something like that. Ok, ok; so my stereo slipped off public radio for a moment! (-what about dt?) -Todd --part1_3f.162751df.284ce921_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -a little off-topic but I had to ask...isn't that a David Torn sample being
used quite judiciously during the chorus of that new Madonna single "That
what it's like for a girl" ...or something like that.  Ok, ok; so my stereo
slipped off public radio for a moment!  (-what about dt?)  -Todd --part1_3f.162751df.284ce921_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 11:51:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29640; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:48:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:48:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:47:47 EDT Subject: OT: Re: dt sighting? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 06/04/2001 9:38:38 AM, THusken@aol.com writes: >-a little off-topic but I had to ask...isn't that a David Torn sample being >used quite judiciously during the chorus of that new Madonna single "That >what it's like for a girl" ...or something like that. Ok, ok; so my stereo >slipped off public radio for a moment! (-what about dt?) -Todd actually..... that's the second time i've heard that remark in the last 24hours; gotta check it out..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 12:29:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31492; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:27:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:27:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010604103100.0090a740@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:31:00 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: OT: Re: dt sighting? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK, here's the third time then! lol! I've been thinking that for weeks now. lol! I tried checking with a local DJ I know, but he wasn't sure. Smiles, G At 11:47 AM 6/4/01 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 06/04/2001 9:38:38 AM, THusken@aol.com writes: > >>-a little off-topic but I had to ask...isn't that a David Torn sample being >>used quite judiciously during the chorus of that new Madonna single "That >>what it's like for a girl" ...or something like that. Ok, ok; so my stereo >>slipped off public radio for a moment! (-what about dt?) -Todd >actually..... >that's the second time i've heard that remark in the last 24hours; >gotta check it out..... >best, >dt / s-c > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 13:05:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00861; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:03:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:03:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <011f01c0ed18$018fe760$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> <3.0.5.32.20010601190537.007c8520@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: XLR volume pedal? Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:01:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Good luck, Tim! Sounds like you got a good shop project there. > (By the way, Dennis, did you notice the humorous typo on your song title on > the '75 Seconds' album as posted on ? 'CIRRUS > Over Indiana' has mutated into 'CITRUS'; more vitamin C, I guess!) Yes! I thought this was a hoot! Images of lemons flying throught the air.... Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 13:37:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01338; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:33:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:33:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1BC742.95E8F7D7@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:49:12 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: XLR volume pedal? References: <3.0.5.32.20010601151741.007bf550@pop.ici.net> <3.0.5.32.20010601190537.007c8520@pop.ici.net> <011f01c0ed18$018fe760$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-RriRB.A.nU.gZ8G7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dennis Leas wrote: > Good luck, Tim! Sounds like you got a good shop project there. > > > (By the way, Dennis, did you notice the humorous typo on your song title > on > > the '75 Seconds' album as posted on ? 'CIRRUS > > Over Indiana' has mutated into 'CITRUS'; more vitamin C, I guess!) > > Yes! I thought this was a hoot! Images of lemons flying throught the > air.... > > Dennis Leas > ------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com god, how i love the smell of lemonade in the morning... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 15:34:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05477; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:30:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:30:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004401c0ed2d$3620bbc0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Slightly OT: Roland SRV-3030D Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:33:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0ECF2.88E00F40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0ECF2.88E00F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all-=20 Been enjoying a T.C. M-One and was reading up on similar units- the = Roland SRV-3030D caught my attention- anyone here used one? It has an = interesting feature that can send your signal to one of 2 processors = based on amplitude, frequency, etc- so you could have high notes sent to = a hall verb and low notes to a tap delay- or do it based on volume of = notes played- not sure how much delay time there is or if it has a = sample/hold feature- also accepts smartmedia for storage of 1000 presets = in banks of 10- I would be interested in any info-=20 Cliff (shaking the change jar for Electrix purchase...) ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0ECF2.88E00F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all-
 
Been enjoying a T.C. M-One and was reading up on = similar=20 units- the Roland SRV-3030D caught my attention- anyone here used = one? It=20 has an interesting feature that can send your signal to one of 2 = processors=20 based on amplitude, frequency, etc- so you could have high notes sent to = a hall=20 verb and low notes to a tap delay- or do it based on volume of notes = played- not=20 sure how much delay time there is or if it has a sample/hold feature- = also=20 accepts smartmedia for storage of 1000 presets in banks of 10- I would = be=20 interested in any info-
 
Cliff
(shaking the change jar for Electrix=20 purchase...)
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0ECF2.88E00F40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 17:43:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10240; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:41:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:41:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.103.5] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:40:35 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2001 21:40:35.0448 (UTC) FILETIME=[FCFBA780:01C0ED3E] Resent-Message-ID: <3idOaD.A.pfC.yBAH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ha, ha....foolish human. Only I can do that ! I with the power of ACID 3.0 (yea, Matt, I am adding the kudus of ACID to this missive )! I think the person has MIDI tracks, so you plan to cut and scratch those ? Well with ACID 3.0, you can import MIDI files, and you can remix them with vocals, or your own beats, created in FruityLoops 3.1.1 or even use ReBirth 2.0, then create a .rbs file, and use ReMaker to convert them to MIDI files... well you get the picture.

Ah, yes ACID......... gotta love it.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 18:07:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11872; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:06:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:06:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:05:03 -0700 From: "Tim Sanz" To: Subject: Re: re: RC-20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id SAA11843 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A Freudian slip, perhaps Kim? >>> kflint@loopers-delight.com 06/04 2:27 AM >>> the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 or whatever other variations you guys are experimenting with... At 2:14 PM -0700 6/3/01, Bruce Satinover wrote: >From: tim@timhelmen.com >> But with the RC-20 it seems there is not that same >>flexibilty. You set the end point of the loop and have >>it restart by hitting the left switch. >>This leaves you with the loop playing, like play mode >>on the LD4. To get into overdub mode you have to hit >>the same switch again. I imagine with practice one >>could get this sequence down pretty well, but you'd >>never be able to get to a mode where you're >>overdubbing right from the re-start of the >>loop. > >This is correct, but it is very easy to overdub as you >are working, example; I make a loop, I press the left >footswitch and the RC-20 plays back my previous music. >I can tap the pedal as the loop is playing and overdub >as I see fit. fwiw, I think you missed Tim's point there. He wants to have the choice to be immediately overdubbing after he ends record. This technique is commonly used in textural loops, where you want some sustained sound to continue from the end of the loop into the beginning of the loop to make a seamless feel. Also if you were doing some sort of counterpoint thing, you might want to immediately overdub the second line as the loop starts repeating. So you continue to play as you end record enter overdub, and your playing is continuouly added to the loop. I think most loopers do this in some way, and certainly any cheap delay pedal does. It sounds like the RC-20 can't do this after the first loop record without introducing a gap in the overdub as you tap the button a second time to get into overdub. That may be a major problem or no problem at all, depending on what kind of looping you want to do. >Again, you need to move up in price to get the >features you are discussing. hmm, not really. I'm sure they could have done it on the rc-20 if they thought about it. It's just a question of how the user interface is programmed to work. >The Echoplex line has >some nice features but are difficult to find and not >always the most realtime friendly. I think echoplexes are pretty easy to find these days, since Gibson is producing a lot more of them now than they used to. The echoplex is pretty much entirely designed to be real-time friendly, so I'm not sure how you got that impression. In this case, it is probably a good example of what Tim is after. The echoplex always allows you to transition from one function immediately to another with one button press. You never have press a button to end one function then press another button to start the next, so it keeps the foot-tapping to a minimum. So if you are recording a loop, you simply end by pressing whatever function you want to go into. The echoplex stops the record for you, starts the loop repeating, and the new function you want is on, all with one button press. For example, if you end the record by pressing overdub, the loop starts repeating with overdub on. End record with reverse, and it is immediately reversing, etc. Similar with other functions, like going from mulitply right into insert or replace or whatever. To me, that is real-time friendly, because whatever you want to do you just hit it and you're there, with only one button tap. The machine takes care of all the steps in between for you. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 18:15:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12102; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:14:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:14:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AALev123@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:12:54 EDT Subject: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d1.788b9da.284d61e6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_d1.788b9da.284d61e6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to list and have been reading the archives-- But anyone with the time or desire to respond would be appreciated....... I am buying a looping device for live use I am a guitar player. Any comments on whether the RC-20, Boomerang or echoplex are better or worse, easier to use, reverse capabilities ect.. is greatly appreciated. Thank , Also, what is the most recent version of each --part1_d1.788b9da.284d61e6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to list and have been reading the archives-- But anyone with the
time or desire  to respond would be appreciated....... I am buying a looping
device for live use I am a guitar player. Any comments on whether the RC-20,
Boomerang or echoplex are better or worse, easier to use, reverse
capabilities ect..  is greatly appreciated. Thank , Also, what is the most
recent version of each --part1_d1.788b9da.284d61e6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 18:24:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12307; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:22:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:22:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1C08F2.C579A878@fullcompass.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 17:17:22 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I love my upgraded V 2.0 Boomerang alot. It is fairly inexpensive, easy to use, sounds good, and can be found pretty cheap used. I have never tried the Echoplex, and have yet to hear any real positive feedback on the RC20. AALev123@aol.com wrote: > > I am new to list and have been reading the archives-- But anyone with > the > time or desire to respond would be appreciated....... I am buying a > looping > device for live use I am a guitar player. Any comments on whether the > RC-20, > Boomerang or echoplex are better or worse, easier to use, reverse > capabilities ect.. is greatly appreciated. Thank , Also, what is the > most > recent version of each From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 18:59:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13184; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:56:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:56:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <48.1697dc63.284d6c02@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:56:02 EDT Subject: Re: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com AALev123@aol.com writes: >Any comments on whether the RC-20, >Boomerang or echoplex are better or worse, easier to use, reverse >capabilities ect.. is greatly appreciated. i haven't tried the rc-20, as it doesn't appear to have certain looping features that i need. otherwise, i would recommend one each of EDP -which is available, now (see andy's post)- and Repeater, when Electrix releases it. not at all thorough, but here are my thumbnail sketches: EDP plusses: realtime continuous reverse/comprehensive editing & re-triggering, multi-loop (contiguous), midi, proven product, wads of sample-time, sw-upgradeable, 1 rack space Repeater plusses: multitrack paradigm (2x stereo / 4 'tracks'), storage & archiving, pitch & time changing (per 'track', or loop), realtime continuous reverse, multi-loop (contiguous), wads of sample-time, midi, sw-upgradeable, many touchy-feely knobs/sliders/switches, 2 rack spaces i'm sure that the boomerang feels great to some bassistic/guitaristic folk, as it's all footpedally & such, as is the case w/line6 dl4. and lotsa folk swear by their jammen. and i still love my pcm42. etc, etc..... there oughta be *plenty* of material in the archives on this subject, nah? best, spltrcl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:01:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12973; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:51:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:51:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:50:38 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Re: dt sighting? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c1.f0c0454.284d6abe_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_c1.f0c0454.284d6abe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 11:48:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hedewa7@aol.com writes: > i never thought i would be on the look-out for a madonna song.....what a mailing list!.....:).....thanks kim.....m --part1_c1.f0c0454.284d6abe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 11:48:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hedewa7@aol.com
writes:


gotta check it out.....


i never thought i would be on the look-out for a madonna song.....what a
mailing list!.....:).....thanks kim.....m --part1_c1.f0c0454.284d6abe_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:03:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14397; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:01:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:01:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:00:24 EDT Subject: Re: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 6:22:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jimsch@fullcompass.com writes: > me too!.....m --part1_16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 6:22:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jimsch@fullcompass.com writes:


I love my upgraded V 2.0 Boomerang alot.


me too!.....m --part1_16.d7bb7ec.284d6d08_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:06:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14608; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:03:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:03:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010604230320.94076.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Random Music Generator Software Questions To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <5PUwjC.A.3jD.6OBH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com pascal, you may want to try Koan Pro software by SSEYO. It has support of sound fonts no matter what kind of sound card you own. Brian Eno uses this program fequently. If you have some bucks to spend get a Korg Karma, it has a very sophisticated algorithmic engine built into the synth. Bruce Hi Everybody! I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music. I've been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko. I have two questions. 1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? 2) I want to run multiple programs and (obviously) my soundcard won't allow me to do this. I've seen it before but I don't remember where, but does anyone know of some kind of software that allows me to run multiple sound programs with only one soundcard? Thanks a lot -pascal __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:17:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14837; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:10:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:10:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AaroneousAG@aol.com Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:08:19 EDT Subject: electrix blow everyone to bits To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <6f.164146a2.284d6ee3@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Folks, Thanks a million billion trillion for the heads up! I just wanted to let you know that if you are in New York City, the only place in the area that still has any Electrix stuff is the Guitar Center in Long Island City, Queens. Their number is 718-278-7777. But, you'd better hurry, cuz I reserved 2 of each!! (Friends don't let friends apply for credit cards) My tweaking fingers are twitching already, Aaroneous P.S. To Electrix: Thanks for the sunshine, guys 8-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:19:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15121; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:18:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:18:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200106042317.QAA19539@swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 16:20:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Newbie Guitarist :RC-20, Boomerang and Echoplex Digital Pro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <13k3LB.A.1rD.wcBH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I luv mi PCM42 too...endall-beall fo' mee!! loopinglee stanner ---------- >From: Hedewa7@aol.co, >otherwise, i would recommend one each of EDP -which is available, now (see >andy's post)- and Repeater, when Electrix releases it. > >not at all thorough, but here are my thumbnail sketches: > >EDP plusses: realtime continuous reverse/comprehensive editing & >Repeater plusses: multitrack paradigm (2x stereo / 4 'tracks'), storage & >i'm sure that the boomerang feels great to some bassistic/guitaristic folk, >and i still love my pcm42. >best, >spltrcl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:45:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15654; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:43:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:43:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010604234304.37809.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:43:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: re: RC-20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 or whatever other variations you guys are experimenting with... << How about, XP4, just joking . At 2:14 PM -0700 6/3/01, Bruce Satinover wrote: > >This is correct, but it is very easy to overdub as you >are working, example; I make a loop, I press the left >footswitch and the RC-20 plays back my previous music. >I can tap the pedal as the loop is playing and overdub >as I see fit. >> fwiw, I think you missed Tim's point there. He wants to have the choice to be immediately overdubbing after he ends record. This technique is commonly used in textural loops, where you want some sustained sound to continue from the end of the loop into the beginning of the loop to make a seamless feel. Also if you were doing some sort of counterpoint thing, you might want to immediately overdub the second line as the loop starts repeating. So you continue to play as you end record enter overdub, and your playing is continuouly added to the loop. I think most loopers do this in some way, and certainly any cheap delay pedal does. It sounds like the RC-20 can't do this after the first loop record without introducing a gap in the overdub as you tap the button a second time to get into overdub. That may be a major problem or no problem at all, depending on what kind of looping you want to do. << Kim, I did understand the initial question and was trying to give an alternative to the limitiations of the RC-20. As for the Echoplex, it is more complex although far more developed than most other loopers that get discussed. I have read the digest and understand there are plenty of units available which is kind of a drag as the Echoplex was the unit I initially wanted. I tried several catalog dealers, Guitar Center, Mars online, and several Chicago area dealers. None had stock and almost none knew where to order. I was getting quotes of 6 weeks for delivery and paying for the unit up front without trying it. I've heard what it can do and wanted one. Imagine how ironic it is that many units are sitting a few miles from me but stores do not know the device even exists! >Again, you need to move up in price to get the >features you are discussing. >> hmm, not really. I'm sure they could have done it on the rc-20 if they thought about it. It's just a question of how the user interface is programmed to work. >> Agreed. In my initial thoughts I was critical of the RC-20 because of design issues. The statement is valid, there aren't many loopers that do what was requested and none I know of that aren't considerably more money than the RC-20. >The Echoplex line has >some nice features but are difficult to find and not >always the most realtime friendly. >> I think echoplexes are pretty easy to find these days, since Gibson is producing a lot more of them now than they used to. The echoplex is pretty much entirely designed to be real-time friendly, so I'm not sure how you got that impression. In this case, it is probably a good example of what Tim is after. << I'm sure once you work with it the echoplex does the job well and with a reasonable learning curve. I'm really annoyed now that I spent money on the RC-20, and it's not that I don't like the unit, I do. But I would have purchased a echoplex had one been available anywhere I checked. And again, the 6 week quote I got simply wouldn't work for my schedule. This whole situations is somewhat frustrating. >> The echoplex always allows you to transition from one function immediately to another with one button press. You never have press a button to end one function then press another button to start the next, so it keeps the foot-tapping to a minimum. So if you are recording a loop, you simply end by pressing whatever function you want to go into. The echoplex stops the record for you, starts the loop repeating, and the new function you want is on, all with one button press. For example, if you end the record by pressing overdub, the loop starts repeating with overdub on. End record with reverse, and it is immediately reversing, etc. Similar with other functions, like going from mulitply right into insert or replace or whatever. To me, that is real-time friendly, because whatever you want to do you just hit it and you're there, with only one button tap. The machine takes care of all the steps in between for you. No argument. It's a powerful machine. If Tim can get one and it's within his budget it would b ethe way to go. But Tim didn't mention his budget, just he desire to use a looper, in this case the RC-20. So, I agree with you, the echoplex is a great machine, I don't have first hand experience, only viewing and listening to guitarists that have it. My response was based on having the RC-20 and what, if anything could be done. If it sounded like I was slighting any other looper I assure you I wasn't. One thing I have come to appreciate is how much can be done with creativity and whatever equipment you have available to you. Sure you have more options whne you have top quality equipment (whatever someone on the list might think) but in the end it is what we do with the equipment we have. I *thought* I was being helpful. That was my only intention. I don't have an agenda or anything like that. I like loopers, inexpensive or high priced and I like listening to what people do with whatever it is they use for equipment. Some of the most creative music I made was on terrible recording equpment and sound reinforcement. I think when you have to work hard to get a decent sound you become creative by need. In any case I hope this clears things up. Also, if anyone knows where I can buy a echoplex I'd appreciate knowing where. Maybe I will have time to get one before we lock in our gigging equipment. Bruce kim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:56:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16766; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:54:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:54:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010604195315.007c7cc0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:53:15 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: re: RC-20 In-Reply-To: <20010604234304.37809.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <92jPsB.A.tFE.2-BH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 04:43 PM 6/4/01 -0700, Kim wrote: >>> the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 >or whatever other >variations you guys are experimenting with... << In honor of Looper's Delight, I hereby propose that ALL manufacturers of hardware loopers re-name their products to start with 'LD'. LD1 = 'Plex LD2 = JamMan (retroactively) LD3 = 'Rang LD4 = DL4 etc... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 19:56:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16728; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:54:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:54:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003301c0ed50$f8b2ae00$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <20010604230320.94076.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Introductions Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:49:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <3CL2-.A.OFE._9BH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi folks I found your cool list from some Tamboura Site and decided to join. I have been composing loop based music for about ten years. I studied Digital Synthesis @ University of Florida for the last 4 years and have produced hundreds of pieces freelance including several full length's by others. I play amplified strings,sitar,tamboura and modified synthesizers (ARP's and Kats) as well as a collection of reg analog synths (Pro Ones and Prophets). I have been studying Csound for about 5 years as well as MAX/MSP..etc..and tons of new software for Rh7Linux. I would love to collaborate and trade some loops etc. Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 20:04:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18172; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:03:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:03:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010605000232.5760.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:02:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: wow: ALIAS Zone, Lucid Dreams To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <7Hl8z.A.ZbE.ZGCH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been lisetening to "Lucid Dreams" by ALIAS Zone after reading about it on this list. This is an incredible album, beautifully executed and designed. When I first found Loopers Delight I heard clips from the second CD comp designed by Loopers Deligh and was very impressed. Then I checked out a few artists that left urls. Maybe this is old news but this is a wonderful primal, ambient CD. The use of loops are quite interesting (to keep this on topic). Even the layout of the CD is excellent. Their url is: http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone in case you want to check them out. And no, I am not affilated in any way, just an impressed listener. Bruce S. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 20:09:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18326; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:07:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:07:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004601c0ed52$d931e1c0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010604195315.007c7cc0@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:02:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i have a DL4 and it is a beauty i run the violin through a compressor a vol ped then into the "LD" :-) the into the twin cheers Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Nelson To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: re: RC-20 > At 04:43 PM 6/4/01 -0700, Kim wrote: > >>> the Line6 pedal is the "DL4". Not LD4 or LM4 or BM4 > >or whatever other > >variations you guys are experimenting with... << > > In honor of Looper's Delight, I hereby propose that ALL manufacturers of > hardware loopers re-name their products to start with 'LD'. > > LD1 = 'Plex > LD2 = JamMan (retroactively) > LD3 = 'Rang > LD4 = DL4 > > etc... > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:16:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20965; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:14:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:14:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.79] From: "Peter Wilson" To: Subject: Electrix going out of business? Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:12:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 6.10.0016.1605 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0003_01C0ED21.FC44B9C0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 01:13:19.0388 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4E255C0:01C0ED5C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C0ED21.FC44B9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rac= k effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? --- Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost f= or this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. 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------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C0ED21.FC44B9C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:24:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21421; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:22:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:22:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010604181829.00a48cd0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:21:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <31foB.A.gOF._QDH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Peter Wilson (06:12 PM 06/04/01) wrote: >I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack >effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? > >--- >Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost >for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. > >Special Comment: >Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us >in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy >--- No, this is not true. My guess is that either Zzounds are being spoiled-sports or they're just not informed. It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. Electrix is discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. Repeaters are built, packed in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still looking at shipping very soon. It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're seeing happen with Electrix. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:34:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21639; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:33:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:33:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: Echoplex for sale Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:33:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010604181829.00a48cd0@mulder.intermag.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I was gonna offer mine for a grand but here's one for less: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1436312706 BTW this is Gary Lehmann--sorry about the identity confusion :} Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:53:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21995; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:52:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:52:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: <49.c215909.284d953a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:51:54 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_49.c215909.284d953a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_49.c215909.284d953a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 9:22:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mark@redmoon-music.com writes: > It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their > resources on where they think the market is. But is there a great market for looping devices? It strikes me that if a company consolidated their resources (i.e. eliminated their other product offerings) to focus on looping devices (i.e. Repeater), it would be a serious error in judgement. Certainly there are enough folks to drive the existing looper market and keep the eBay sellers of Jammen, et al flush, but to bank one's whole company on loopers?! Doesn't make sense to me. By the same token, maybe the market Electrix was targeting with the other devices (assumedly DJ's to some extent) isn't all that great. Maybe they can pick up the Alesis Masterlink market! Regards, Pavel --part1_49.c215909.284d953a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 9:22:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mark@redmoon-music.com writes:


It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their
resources on where they think the market is.
But is there a great market for looping devices? It strikes me that if a
company consolidated their resources (i.e. eliminated their other product
offerings) to focus on looping devices (i.e. Repeater), it would be a serious
error in judgement. Certainly there are enough folks to drive the existing
looper market and keep the eBay sellers of Jammen, et al flush, but to bank
one's whole company on loopers?! Doesn't make sense to me. By the same token,
maybe the market Electrix was targeting with the other devices (assumedly
DJ's to some extent) isn't all that great. Maybe they can pick up the Alesis
Masterlink market!

Regards, Pavel


--part1_49.c215909.284d953a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 21:53:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21994; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:52:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:52:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:51:30 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Re: dt sighting? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com so here's mine; I am convinced the sound bite I hear everytime my wife boots her laptop (running WIN98) is from the intro of something off "doorX"... maybe *mr wonderful*... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:18:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23810; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:16:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:16:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Incensepeppamint@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:15:36 EDT Subject: How much should this cost? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e1.15a0dcdd.284d9ac8_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e1.15a0dcdd.284d9ac8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How much should this run me new, I haven't found a price anywhere except in the JamMan Echoplex comparison.Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro and EFC-7 Foot Controller with the loop III ver 5.0 chip uprgrade and 16 mb of ram? -Erik --part1_e1.15a0dcdd.284d9ac8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How much should this run me new, I haven't found a price anywhere except in
the

JamMan Echoplex comparison.Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro and EFC-7 Foot

Controller with the loop III ver 5.0 chip uprgrade and 16 mb of ram?

-Erik





--part1_e1.15a0dcdd.284d9ac8_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:36:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24164; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:35:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:35:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1C46B2.FB074C50@virtulink.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:40:50 -0400 From: David Beardsley Organization: SSI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-20 References: <3.0.5.32.20010604195315.007c7cc0@pop.ici.net> <004601c0ed52$d931e1c0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com shreeswifty wrote: > > i have a DL4 and it is a beauty > i run the violin through a compressor a vol ped then into the "LD" :-) > the into the twin > cheers And who hipped yo to that scat daddy-oh? -- * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:42:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24374; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:40:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:40:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:42:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmmmm- If these products were selling well at all, I can't see why Electrix would delete the revenue stream, especially now that Repeater is getting ready to ship after a long painful and probably expensive delay. My guess would be manufacture of all the Repeater boxes and the attendant delay in Repeater's shipping (and thus bringing in $) may have temporarily put the company in a bind. The sell-off would raise extra cash quickly, though not as much as if they'd left them at their previous prices. Still, probably worth doing if you need the cash now, and perhaps Electrix has plans for replacement products. I certainly hope so, I am in awe of Electrix user interface and no preset concept. I was less in awe of the inflexible parrallel effx routing of MoFx, and the filter box that went into "painful speaker destroying 10 times louder than the previous signal" oscillation at a resonance setting of about 50%. Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- Mark >Peter Wilson (06:12 PM 06/04/01) wrote: > >>I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack >>effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? >> >>--- >>Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost >>for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. >> >>Special Comment: >>Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us >>in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy >>--- > >No, this is not true. My guess is that either Zzounds are being >spoiled-sports or they're just not informed. > > >It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's >Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. > >Electrix is discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to >focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. Repeaters are built, packed >in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still >looking at shipping very soon. > >It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their >resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're >seeing happen with Electrix. > > >Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24534; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:46:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:46:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:48:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: so when do we get the EDP news? Resent-Message-ID: <72bbjD.A.L_F.JgEH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Kim and Matthias- While going thru some old mail I found this, saved undoubtedly as it produced pleasurable drooling and lusting on my part, can you add any more pleasant hints or intriguing "g word" comments? Still enjoying my trusty Oberheim Echoplex... Best- Mark >At 2:50 AM -0700 7/9/99, John Tidwell wrote: >>--- Kim Flint wrote: >> >>> yes, I must say, tapping instantaneously in and out >>> of half speed while >>> overdub is on over a reversed, granularly-multiplied >>> loop is way >>> fun.....y'all should try it some time.... >> >>Oh you tease! >> >>Kim, if you're serious, are you talking about an >>upgrade that will double the delay time at a lower >>rate or halve the time at a higher rate? I'm >>borrowing jargon here so excuse me if it's a stupid >>question! > >It sure looks like I'm talking about that, doesn't it? hmmmmmm..... > >However, I'm really intrigued by that use of the g word. > >kim > >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 22:49:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24578; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:48:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:48:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000c01c0ed69$52b95300$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010604195315.007c7cc0@pop.ici.net> <004601c0ed52$d931e1c0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> <3B1C46B2.FB074C50@virtulink.com> Subject: Re: RC-20 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:43:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com some shredlord... lives in Jersey... except he uses a lap steel so yr mind breaks from the drone. Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message ----- From: David Beardsley To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:40 PM Subject: Re: RC-20 > > > shreeswifty wrote: > > > > i have a DL4 and it is a beauty > > i run the violin through a compressor a vol ped then into the "LD" :-) > > the into the twin > > cheers > > And who hipped yo to that scat daddy-oh? > > > > -- > * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y > * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" > * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm > * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 23:21:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26185; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:20:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:20:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.117.165] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again-HuH? Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 03:19:25 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 03:19:26.0077 (UTC) FILETIME=[52FB72D0:01C0ED6E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Oh my. Dj Ice sounds so.... did you edit his comments, they seem broken and unintelligible ? I gave him some pointers, and now they seem to be lost in the sauce.If he wants to remix those MIDI tunes, he has to at least act as if he knows what MIDI is, and how to manipulate that format. I am a Dj, and I have worked with several different file types, and the applications to process them. It "aint like scratching on two turntables, and a cuttin' tha breaks..." MIDI files are a whole different puppy. Programs like SONAR, ACID 3.0, and Midi Studio are good, but if you have to ask what these things are, and where to get them, then half the battle is lost there... you have heard of a learning curve, right ? Just asking for the MIDI files, in such a "street" attitude, does not come across professional, nor does it make him seem competent enough to handle this person's music, and they are VERY serious about the request. Eer, hehe, so you've never even worked with ReBirth? --- In Samplestation@y..., DJICE57@A... wrote: > a this is dj ice from RAW ENTERTAIANMENT ? SEND ME THE PROGRAM THAT THA SONGS > ON AND I CAN MAKE THEM HOT AZZ HELL > CALL ME AT 334-290-2984 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 4 23:22:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26211; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:20:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:20:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:19:31 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c6.168789fd.284da9c3_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_c6.168789fd.284da9c3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 10:40:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, landman@wco.com writes: > Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I > certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > Absolutely. I had my order in at Alto Music for a LONG time. Regards, Pavel --part1_c6.168789fd.284da9c3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/01 10:40:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, landman@wco.com
writes:


Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I
certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best-


Absolutely. I had my order in at Alto Music for a LONG time.

Regards, Pavel --part1_c6.168789fd.284da9c3_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 00:30:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28330; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:29:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:29:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:28:42 -0700 Subject: Reverb? I'll show you reverb: From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id AAA28292 Resent-Message-ID: <5MydEC.A.d6G.HAGH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I don't recall this being discussed previously, but this is now #1 on my list of places to play a ambient show at: http://www.silophone.net "Located in Montréal's old port, Silo #5B-1 was built in 1958 and has been cited by Le Corbusier as a masterpiece of modern architecture. The elevator was used to store grain which came to Montréal by rail and departed by sea. Due to changes in the global grain market the elevator became obsolete and was closed in 1996. Since then it has remained empty and, for reasons of security, closed to the public. The structure, constructed entirely of reinforced concrete, is 200 metres long, 16 metres wide and approximately 45 metres at its highest point. The main section of the building is formed of approximately 115 vertical chambers, all 30 metres high and up to 8 metres in diameter. These tall parallel cylinders, whose form evokes the structure of an enormous organ, have exceptional acoustic properties: a stunning reverberation time of over 20 seconds. Anything played inside the Silo is euphonized, made beautiful, by the acoustics of the structure. All those who have entered have found it an overwhelming and unforgettable experience." TH -- NEW official Electrochakra website: http://www.electrochakra.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 01:21:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA29995; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:18:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:18:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:12:21 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: wow: ALIAS Zone, Lucid Dreams In-reply-to: <20010605000232.5760.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220404086==_ma============" References: <20010605000232.5760.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220404086==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 5:02 PM -0700 6/4/01, Bruce Satinover wrote: >I've been lisetening to "Lucid Dreams" by ALIAS Zone >after reading about it on this list. This is an >incredible album, beautifully executed and designed. I'm glad you like it. Chris Meyer was the principal architect of this CD project. He's not on this list, but I've forwarded your message to him. He's been putting a lot of effort into the project and good reviews give him strength to carry on! Alias Zone is based on live performance recordings of the band Cosmic Debris (presently on hiatus). We made a practice of taping all our gigs on DA-88. Chris culled the Alias Zone basic tracks from this archive and added overdubs and additional processing. The Cosmic Debris lineup for any given gig consisted of any two or more of: Richard Bugg: flute and synthesizer Chris Meyer: Loops, ambiences, sound bytes, and percussion Blake Arnold: Characters, stories, and tales Lucky Westfall: Bass Richard Zvonar: Eventide Harmonizers There are three Debris CDs available on mp3.com, with free downloads of mp3 files. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1220404086==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: wow: ALIAS Zone, Lucid Dreams
At 5:02 PM -0700 6/4/01, Bruce Satinover wrote:
I've been lisetening to "Lucid Dreams" by ALIAS Zone
after reading about it on this list. This is an
incredible album, beautifully executed and designed.

I'm glad you like it. Chris Meyer was the principal architect of this CD project. He's not on this list, but I've forwarded your message to him. He's been putting a lot of effort into the project and good reviews give him strength to carry on!

Alias Zone is based on live performance recordings of the band Cosmic Debris (presently on hiatus). We made a practice of taping all our gigs on DA-88. Chris culled the Alias Zone basic tracks from this archive and added overdubs and additional processing.

The Cosmic Debris lineup for any given gig consisted of any two or more of:
Richard Bugg: flute and synthesizer
Chris Meyer: Loops, ambiences, sound bytes, and percussion
Blake Arnold: Characters, stories, and tales
Lucky Westfall: Bass
Richard Zvonar: Eventide Harmonizers

There are three Debris CDs available on mp3.com, with free downloads of mp3 files. <http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/85/cosmic_debris.html>
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http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz
--============_-1220404086==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 01:32:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30218; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:29:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:29:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:20:52 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? In-reply-to: <49.c215909.284d953a@aol.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220403489==_ma============" References: <49.c215909.284d953a@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220403489==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 9:51 PM -0400 6/4/01, PaulPokr@aol.com wrote: >It strikes me that if a >company consolidated their resources (i.e. eliminated their other product >offerings) to focus on looping devices (i.e. Repeater), it would be a serious >error in judgement. Electrix is a division of IVL Technologies and IVL has a history of developing technologies for other companies, such as Digitech and tc electronic. Though I have no inside knowledge about their business practices, my assumption is that these other accounts provide some stability while they do their "creative thing" with the Electrix products. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1220403489==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Electrix going out of business?
At 9:51 PM -0400 6/4/01, PaulPokr@aol.com wrote:
It strikes me that if a
company consolidated their resources (i.e. eliminated their other product
offerings) to focus on looping devices (i.e. Repeater), it would be a serious
error in judgement.

Electrix is a division of IVL Technologies <http://www.ivl.com/> and IVL has a history of developing technologies for other companies, such as Digitech and tc electronic.  Though I have no inside knowledge about their business practices, my assumption is that these other accounts provide some stability while they do their "creative thing" with the Electrix products.
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Richard Zvonar, PhD      
(818) 788-2202                                 
http://www.zvonar.com
http://RZCybernetics.com
http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz
--============_-1220403489==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 01:41:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30441; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:39:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:39:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010604223333.021093b0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:34:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PaulPokr@aol.com (08:19 PM 06.04.2001) wrote: >In a message dated 6/4/01 10:40:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, landman@wco.com >writes: > >>Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I >>certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > >Absolutely. I had my order in at Alto Music for a LONG time. Since July 2000 for me. I ordered one right after I saw it at Summer NAMM last year. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 01:51:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30629; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:47:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:47:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.3] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: [Samplestation] Dj Hypergirl ? Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 05:47:06 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 05:47:06.0607 (UTC) FILETIME=[F44507F0:01C0ED82] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, Shanna this is Dj Devious D, and I have some demo's I could send you, if you like. I see you are from St. Louis. I used to spin with Captain Gee, and Ted Thornton down there, back in the mid 80's. I even was a mix contributor for Z100 (Dr Jockenstein), back in the day. I used to spin at Club Celebration, The Wiz, and a short stint at the Oz, and the Broadway. Captain Gee, was my mentor. I contributed also (idea-wise), to MetroMix, (a remix service Captain Gee, Tiger Jones and Ted Thorntorn remixed for). I have an extensive Homestudio, with all the trappings. If you want I can send you one of my production pieces, via email, as an MP3 file. My brother-in-law is doing music down there, he used to go by the name Kidd Rock, his last name is Kinnell. Dj Devious D Visionary Mixologist And Soun Design Chicago, IL. 60621 Phone: 773-783-7812 Email : ldarthard@Ameritech.net ----Original Message Follows---- From: "DJ Hypergirl" Reply-To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com To: Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:59:32 -0700 Hey ICE, you have a demo of your own? I'm interested. Shanna Hendrixson Production Director and C.E.O. SPYS IN THE NITE PRODUCTIONS 10536 Wisteria St. Louis, MO 63126 314-843-5321 314-538-8460 ----- Original Message ----- From: DJICE57@AOL.COM To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again a this is dj ice from RAW ENTERTAIANMENT ? SEND ME THE PROGRAM THAT THA SONGS ON AND I CAN MAKE THEM HOT AZZ HELL CALL ME AT 334-290-2984 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Community email addresses: Post message: Samplestation@onelist.com Subscribe: Samplestation-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: Samplestation-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: Samplestation-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/Samplestation Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 02:36:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA32694; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:33:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:33:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:32:18 -0700 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: FWD: Berkeley concert: Shafqat / Wessel / Matt / Ali this Wednesady Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com some of you bay area folks may be interested in this. I saw Dave and Matt play with Shafqat once before, and it was very good. Certainly a lot of the music technology involved would be interesting to folks on this list. kim >Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:44:49 -0700 (PDT) >From: Matt Wright >To: matt@cnmat.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU >Subject: Shafqat / Wessel / Matt / Ali this Wednesady > >Hello, friends. I'm very excited to be performing once again with the >incredible 11th generation Khyal vocalist Shafqat Ali Khan. My good friends >David Wessel and Ali Momeni will join me in accompanying Shafqat with various >computer instruments. At the bottom of this message are the program notes we >wrote for the performance, explaining our instruments and artistic goals. > >But first, the important stuff: > >Wednesday, June 6th, 8pm. Doors open at 7:30. >Hertz Hall, UC Berkeley, near the corner of College and Bancroft >$15 >Part of CNMAT's TEMPO Festival of Contemporary Performance, >http://www.tempofestival.org > > >I hope to see you there! > >-Matt > > >********************* Program Notes ********************* > > >What are we trying to do? > >Musical meetings that combine very distant cultural influences very >often end up as aesthetic disasters. Our particular ingredients >tonight consist of a voice strongly grounded in the highly developed >Khyal vocal tradition of Pakistan and North India, and a collection >of computer music practices that has little, if any, grounding in a >strong musical tradition. > >Although Wessel, Wright and Momeni have all studied this music to >some extent, we cannot pretend to be well situated in this profoundly >deep music culture. Our strategy then is to adapt the computer's >role in the direction of the more highly developed Khyal tradition >but not completely. We strove to create a common meeting ground, a >situation that would provoke a musical exchange. Improvisation is >central to the Khyal tradition and to each performer's musical >background; it will be the basis for tonight's performance. We did >not use another genre with which we have familiarity, such as jazz, >rock, or 20th century western art music, but rather we concentrated >on building musical material from scratch, starting with the >essentials - rhythmic structure, pitch organization, timbral control, >and an enveloping diffusion of the resulting sound. We focused on the >most salient features; the drone, the pitch collections related to >the particular rag, and rhythmic structures compatible with the >Hindustani tal. > >What are the Instruments? > >Shafqat Ali Khan will be singing. > >Each of the other three musicians will be playing a computer-based >musical instrument that he designed and implemented specifically for >this performance. All three instruments consist of a "gestural >interface," a physical device that somehow measures the way it is >touched and transmits these measurements to a computer. The computer >interprets these gestures according to pre-programmed rules, and >controls different kinds of sound synthesis and processing. All of >our computers are networked and share a common time pulse and other >information. Each computer musician's sound will be played primarily >through the loudspeaker closest to him on stage in the hopes of >providing a sort of embodied physicality and so you the listener will >be able to associate the sounds you hear with the people who are >playing them. > >David Wessel's gestural interface is a Buchla Thunder. The Thunder >has many pressure- and position-sensitive strips played with the >fingers. It is polyphonic in the sense that the parameters of >multiple strips are sensed at once. Wessel's instrument is based on >the idea of "dipping": a probabilistic generative process for rhythm >and melody is associated with each strip on the Thunder's surface, >where zero pressure causes silence and increasing pressure adds >volume and density to the musical result. Orchestration, the >selection of which processes are sounding at a given time, is >controlled by which strips are touched. > >Matthew Wright's gestural interface is a Wacom tablet and stylus. >The tablet senses the absolute two-dimensional position of the stylus >with a resolution greater than 0.001 inch, as well as the pressure >and two-dimensional tilt of the pen with respect to the tablet >surface. Different regions of the tablet correspond to different >kinds of musical behaviors, including control of the drone and the >construction and scheduling of rhythmic patterns. The most >expressive feature of the interface is "scrubbing," real-time control >of additive resynthesis of musical phrases sung by Shafqat. > >Ali Momeni's gestural interface is a pair of joysticks, each sensing >two-dimensional tilt, rotation, and a number of buttons and switches. >Momeni's software maps these dimensions to various synthesis >algorithms modally thus allowing him to control many different types >of processes using the same two joysticks. Unlike the other two >performers, Momeni begins each piece with very little prepared sound >material. All in real-time, this instrument allows him to listen to >and analyze Shafqat's voice, record samples and to replay those >samples using granular synthesis. Momeni also uses a second >microphone to record percussive sounds produced by a collection of >small objects he has at hand. > ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 03:34:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA01814; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:31:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:31:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, rumori@detritus.net Subject: I'll be performing on June 13th Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 00:30:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 07:30:04.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[5652C640:01C0ED91] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey everybody, I'll be doing a live performance at Kimo's nightclub in San Francisco. My set will be roughly from 9 to 10, and will consist of simultaneous turntable, CD player, and cassette improvisations - pretty loopy in nature. The other acts have been described to me as "free jazz" and an "electro-noise fest". Here's the announcement from bayimproviser.com: Matt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, Jun 13 2001 8:00 PM Carnival Ad Nauseam @ Kimo's Nightclub 1351 Polk St. @ Pine San Francisco CA 10pm Plum 9pm Matt Davignon 8pm Lambskin 13 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 04:02:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03372; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 04:00:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 04:00:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005b01c0ed95$7eda0020$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: I'll be performing on June 13th Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:59:44 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Good luck Matt! I have been walking by the occasional poster in London - while continuing to look for work - and see a number of things advertising "Live Jazz". I feel like I should find out just WHAT they think of as "Jazz" here -- is it "free form improvisation"? or more a situation for guitarists like "non-Les Paul clones need not apply".? Possibly this might have more timeliness than it has before, as they're about to run that bloody "Louis Armstrong as the only 'real' Jazz" series here, and before long Marsalis' attitudes could very well be incorrectly taken as gospel. Hm, interesting counterpoint. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 05:36:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA05274; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:34:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:34:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.3] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:32:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 09:32:49.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C8A09C0:01C0EDA2] Resent-Message-ID: <_bQi2B.A.SSB.odKH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I think this was directed toward's me ? Ok, maybe I sounded harsh in my "schooling" of Dj Ice, and I apologize for that. It was not meant for criticism (well not destructive that is),I just was commenting on his method of requesting the MIDI files that he wanted to work on, not his ability in actually manipulating the files. I have no idea what this man's skill level is, but neither will the artist who wanted their MIDI tracks remixed. How will they know, or why would the trust their work with someone who sounded as if he didn't know a MIDI file, from a Mini Skirt, but again I sound too harsh. Dj Ice might just be the next Cameron Paul, all I know, but I was not impressed with his sales pitch.... ----Original Message Follows---- From: stuart ricks Reply-To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:34:28 +0100 (BST) Some comments arent really all that fair, lets be honest at the end of the day music is music, wether its made from midi, wav or mp3 files. It also shouldnt matter how competant you are, music is not a serious attitude, its supose to be fun and an enjoyment. I admit I dont know a great deal about midi files or how they work, but the whole point is that with each step you learn, and hopefully with this group we help and teatch each other about different mediums and forms of working. Dont diss someone just because they dont know, help them to understand there problem, or give honest critisism. DJKameleon ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 06:12:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA06737; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:08:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:08:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1CAFA4.18AE2CE@cloud9.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:08:37 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? References: <200106050551.BAA30693@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I picked up 3 of the units at the blowout price from Sam Ash last night. I'm getting the other two from 8th street. It's not just a GC/MF deal, so not clear why zzounds missed the boat. BTW, I got a note from MF yesterday that the filter factory had shipped. Apparently the woman I talked to there over the weekend was misinformed; sorry about the confusion. I talked to the gear guy at sam ash about the electrix line. He comment was that the electrix boxes were very poor sellers. I'm guessing that figured heavily into the decision to "cut loose" on these products. Elby From: Mark Pulver It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 10:18:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15532; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:16:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:16:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:14:40 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com mark said: >It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their >resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're >seeing happen with Electrix. exactly what my sources say. best, spltrcl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 10:26:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15785; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:24:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:24:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:23:01 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com mtman@cloud9.net writes: >I talked to the gear guy at sam ash about the electrix line. He comment >was that the electrix boxes were very poor sellers. somehow, i hafta doubt the 'gear guy at sam ash's' veracity as an authoritative opinion. don't you? blrp, spltrcl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 11:34:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18355; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:30:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:30:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AALev123@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:29:18 EDT Subject: Clean rhythmn and dirty solos -set up question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf.f0f8339.284e54ce_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_bf.f0f8339.284e54ce_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x loop of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean rhythm but when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to a dirty sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as to record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound. Thanks. --part1_bf.f0f8339.284e54ce_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x loop
of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean rhythm but
when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to a dirty
sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as to
record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound.
Thanks.   --part1_bf.f0f8339.284e54ce_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 11:36:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18367; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:31:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:31:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:22:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Seems like Mr. Pulver and Mr. Torn have some inside scoops on this whole Electrix thingee...and it sounds as if they are going to consolidate and move forward. however, Damon and Jamie from Electrix have been really good about posting answers to pertinent questions regarding their product, EXCEPT there was eerie silence when there was some 'issue' involved (ie: Repeater missing ship dates). seems like we haven't heard from them during this whole 'blowout' deal. perhaps a friendly "hey, we're here and we're fine" would settle everyone's nerves down a bit? it's one thing to get a great deal on straighforward analogue fx boxes, but i wouldn't want to buy an untested Repeater if the company/support/sw updates are going to be nonexistent. rich >Hmmmmm- If these products were selling well at all, I can't see why >Electrix would delete the revenue stream, especially now that Repeater is >getting ready to ship after a long painful and probably expensive delay. > >My guess would be manufacture of all the Repeater boxes and the attendant >delay in Repeater's shipping (and thus bringing in $) may have temporarily >put the company in a bind. > >The sell-off would raise extra cash quickly, though not as much as if >they'd left them at their previous prices. Still, probably worth doing if >you need the cash now, and perhaps Electrix has plans for replacement >products. I certainly hope so, I am in awe of Electrix user interface and >no preset concept. I was less in awe of the inflexible parrallel effx >routing of MoFx, and the filter box that went into "painful speaker >destroying 10 times louder than the previous signal" oscillation at a >resonance setting of about 50%. > >Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I >certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > >Mark> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 11:43:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18490; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:35:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:35:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: tri.tran@baesystems.com Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 10:34:57 -0500 Subject: RE: Electrix going out of business? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD5.138E3E40" Resent-Message-ID: <0hG6iB.A.ugE.owPH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD5.138E3E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I tried MARS too and they did not match the $99 price. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Wilson [mailto:pwilson10@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:13 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Electrix going out of business? I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? --- Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. Special Comment: Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy --- _____ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD5.138E3E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
I tried MARS too and they did not match the $99 price.
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From: Peter Wilson [mailto:pwilson10@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:13 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Electrix going out of business?

I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm?
 
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Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again.

Special Comment:
Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us in their inventory liqiudation.  Thanks the Spy

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EDD5.138E3E40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 11:59:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19000; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:55:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:55:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010605085142.020b3ef0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:51:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rich (08:22 AM 06.05.2001) wrote: >however, Damon and Jamie from Electrix have been really good about >posting answers to pertinent questions regarding their product, EXCEPT >there was eerie silence when there was some 'issue' involved (ie: >Repeater missing ship dates). But, what Jamie and Damon did end up posting was that they didn't want to again predict a ship date and miss it. It took them a while to post, but I think that came from the business aspect of deciding new policy. >seems like we haven't heard from them during this whole 'blowout' deal. One of the things that I've tried to be clear about in at least some of my posts is that I'm getting information from my contacts within Electrix. It's not always prudent for a company to come out directly and comment on business practices. >perhaps a friendly "hey, we're here and we're fine" would settle >everyone's nerves down a bit? it's one thing to get a great deal on >straighforward analogue fx boxes, but i wouldn't want to buy an untested >Repeater if the company/support/sw updates are going to be nonexistent. I posted their words to this effect on Saturday (in the "Re: Electrix? Repeater?" thread) but I see your point in hearing it straight from them. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:12:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24791; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:08:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:08:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Message-ID: <78.15d6900c.284e7999@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:06:17 EDT Subject: AKASH - GIG ALERT - PRESS RELEASE CC: Leslieaq@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com LISTEN UP ! ALL U "KINKY","SPACE","FREAKS" OUT THERE, FOR ONE SHOW ONLY! "ALL PIMPIN', ALL HUSTLIN', ALL RAPPIN', ALL RHYMIN'" (OK so we are just kidding about 'pimpin' but we are always "workin" it ) AKASH, LIVE @ THE SHUBIN THEATRE! www.akashmusic.com NOTE: The Shubin Theatre is located on Bainbridge Street just off of South Street, Between 4th and 5th Streets but closer to 4th. SUNDAY, JUNE 10th, Doors Open @ 7PM, DIG IT - AKASH STARTS @ 8PM SHARP! ADMISSION for AKASH is $5 bucks (cheap!) *AFTER PARTY @ FLUID WITH PSYDDE DELICIOUS' FAST CHEAP AND OUT OF CONTROL * GET $1.00 off $3.00 admission to FAST CHEAP *Offer valid if only if you arrive at FLUID before 11pm with an Invite from AKASH in hand. *Also, the 1st. Ten People to show up @ The Shubin Theatre, will get a FREE copy of AKASH's DEBUT ALBUM "BODY WORSHIP" WE HOPE TO SEE ALL OF Y'ALL THERE :) SPECIAL SHOUT OUTS TO "LISA STEINER" @ OBZINE THANK YOU LISA FOR YOUR SUPPORT "REMEMBER TO ALWAYS KILL YOUR EXPECTATIONS" WWW.AKASHMUSIC.COM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:21:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25283; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:17:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:17:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:15:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Cc: Subject: Re: AKASH - GIG ALERT - PRESS RELEASE In-Reply-To: <78.15d6900c.284e7999@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Can we get a city, state, parish, or province for the Shubin Theatre please? Longitude and latitude would help, even :). thanks, Steve On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 AKASHMUSIC@aol.com wrote: > LISTEN UP ! > ALL U "KINKY","SPACE","FREAKS" OUT THERE, > FOR ONE SHOW ONLY! > > "ALL PIMPIN', ALL HUSTLIN', ALL RAPPIN', ALL RHYMIN'" > > (OK so we are just kidding about 'pimpin' but we are always "workin" > it ) > > AKASH, LIVE @ THE SHUBIN THEATRE! > www.akashmusic.com > > > NOTE: The Shubin Theatre is located > on Bainbridge Street just off of South Street, Between 4th and 5th > Streets > but closer to 4th. > > SUNDAY, JUNE 10th, Doors Open @ 7PM, > DIG IT - AKASH STARTS @ 8PM SHARP! > ADMISSION for AKASH is $5 bucks (cheap!) > *AFTER PARTY @ FLUID WITH PSYDDE DELICIOUS' > FAST CHEAP AND OUT OF CONTROL > * GET $1.00 off $3.00 admission to > FAST CHEAP > *Offer valid if only if you arrive at FLUID before > 11pm with an Invite from AKASH in hand. > > *Also, the 1st. Ten People to show up @ The Shubin Theatre, > will get a FREE copy of AKASH's DEBUT ALBUM > "BODY WORSHIP" > > WE HOPE TO SEE ALL OF Y'ALL THERE :) > > SPECIAL SHOUT OUTS TO "LISA STEINER" @ OBZINE > THANK YOU LISA FOR YOUR SUPPORT > > "REMEMBER TO ALWAYS KILL YOUR EXPECTATIONS" > WWW.AKASHMUSIC.COM > > > > > > > -- onNow: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:32:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25698; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:27:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:27:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:27:04 EDT Subject: Re: AKASH - GIG ALERT - PRESS RELEASE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Opps...I kinda forgot about that certain "key" info as it is pretty relevant stuff and crucial for people who do wanna show up if they are local & or near the area. I'm not the worlds best marketeer by any strech oif the imagination as my forgetfulness gets the best of me everytime. But please do forgive me...ahemmmm...The Shubin Theatre is located in Center City Philadelphia PA - near The "Bohemian" Shopping Area known as "South Street". But we would love to see all of you who can make it present :) Warm Regards John Price/AKASH "Remember To Always Kill Your Expectations" www.akashmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:40:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26145; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:37:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:37:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, mrcaine@hotmail.com, NLRP1@hotmail.com, NLRP1@aol.com, vbell@interaccess.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Re: Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:35:52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 18:35:52.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[5997BDD0:01C0EDEE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Bravo ! My man ! I read your reply, and it brought a tear to my eye ! Now, I must NOT be getting all the threads to this debacle, because, some of the intermediate replies have gone past me. I still have not seen a reply from Dj Ice, and I never saw the note from kNode. So, I can not completely and honestly say anything else in this regards. I just want to stress, that this whole thread is NOT about dissin' anyone, or belittling anyone's Musical, Dj, or Production Skills. We are all in this for different reasons, but the common denominator is that "WE ALL LOVE MUSIC", and that's the glue that binds. Now Dj Ice's "public relation's" skills might be rough now, but maybe his producer skills are off the hook.... this is the time for him to also sharpen those skills, and learn how to "ask", for the right to use someone's tracks, for remixing. Just stating that he can "make them hot azz hell..." or whatever he said, will not impress anyone enough to say, "hummm, this guy sounds competent enough to handle my creation...". Now all said and done... can we all get along ? Man, this is the hottest thread that has been floating around here, since... well you all get the picture. Peace, and Hair Grease ! Alright, to start off in regards to kNode it looks like you're just trying to start an arguement here and there is no need over something as stupid as the sake of arguing. Now for Devious D_MasterMixer, he is absolutely correct. DJ Icewhatever does need some schooling in regards to public relations. I was completely not impressed with his street thug attitude, not with his seemingly lack of knowledge in regards to the track types I'm looking for a producer to help me with. It would have been different if he had some music samples to back up his claims or if he presented some know-how of the previously mentioned program. It's never in good taste to request the program either as with what Devious D_MasterMixer there is a learning curve with just about every program and when looking for a producer for your music you're not looking for someone who knows less about the software (or hardware in some peoples case) than you do. I didn't find Devious D_MasterMixer's comments to be offensive in the least, and I'll even go as far to say he is probably doing DJ Icewhatever a favor in schooling him. And I apologize if this too came off as harsh, as we call know it's almost impossible to express one's emotion over the net. 8P Cheers, - Clayton --- In Samplestation@y..., stuart ricks wrote: > Some comments aren't really all that fair, lets be > honest at the end of the day music is music, whether > its made from midi, wav or mp3 files. It also shouldn't > matter how competent you are, music is not a serious > attitude, its suppose to be fun and an enjoyment. > > I admit I don't know a great deal about midi files or > how they work, but the whole point is that with each > step you learn, and hopefully with this group we help > and teach each other about different mediums and > forms of working. > > Don't diss someone just because they don't know, help > them to understand there problem, or give honest > criticism. DJKameleon > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:48:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26618; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:44:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:44:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Looking for a producer, again Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:43:01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 18:43:01.0886 (UTC) FILETIME=[5960D9E0:01C0EDEF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ok, now I have HEARD it all ! Dj Ice ! Man get with the program ! Do you WANT the job ? You are KILLING me with this street-talk ! You have to learn how to converse with potential clients. Now do you REALLY think Shanna H., regards you as being serious ? I know I don't. How old are you anyway, Ice ? Dj Ice Wrote - To my chagrin : hey shanna, how you doinig ?what kind a demo you want a demo of my sample beats or a mix tape demo of me spining records. ms.hendriixson i'm a producer i make hot azz beats that keep your head rocking . _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 14:49:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26470; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:43:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:43:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:42:37 -0700 From: "Jan Pek" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: swirlee@angelfire.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: asheville loopers X-Sender-Ip: 152.18.33.54 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey everyone- well, im back from my yearlong sojourn through eastern europe and asia. last year around this time, i was developing a MaxMSP multichannel looper for polyrhythmic bliss-- which i called fripp~ . does anyone remember that? well, the situation is this; staying in step with the biorhythms puts me in a lowtech position. actually im starting a smoothie cart selling freshsqueeze in downtown asheville, and making a lot of animal noises and dancing like a drunken shaman. the scoliosis is evermending, the spine and ribcage are reshaping themselves magically, totally against all predictability by western medicine. but im interested in connecting with fellow loopers in asheville: spontaneous trance through meditative repetition. playing around with process. how do we hold the space for music to come through? if someone had a mac i could tweak around on, id probably want to continue working on new looping tools... see, i think of a west african drumming circle, and i think of the organizational metaphors;; ok, you play this, you play that. or a jazz band, where the song is the unit of loose organization around which the melodies rise. or sitting meditation, where the breath is often the anchor around which the journey focalizes. but of course these are just the tip of a vast matrix of dream incubators, of ways to coax the little devils out of their musical closets... so if you're into looping together, lets jiggit. love jan Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:06:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27212; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:56:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:56:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: rich@nuvisionsca.com Cc: NLRP1@hotmail.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:55:41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 18:55:42.0294 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E9DE760:01C0EDF1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My Bad. I have gotten some flak about my responses to Samplestation, weeding their way into loopers delight. I apologize, I just wanted to hear to see if any of the Loopers had in comments on this situation, some words of wisdom for Dj Ice, that is all. I will stop my CC'ing LD after this. ----Original Message Follows---- From: rich To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:14:39 -0700 hi! rich here from Looper's Delight. hope you are well. can you check and see if the mail that you're responding to is getting sent to the Looper's Delight list as well? it seems wierd...we're not getting the posts that you are responding to, but we're getting your responses... any ideas? best, rich >I think this was directed toward's me ? >Ok, maybe I sounded harsh in my "schooling" of Dj Ice, and I >apologize for that. It was not meant for criticism (well not >destructive that is),I just was commenting on his method of >requesting the MIDI files that he wanted to work on, not his ability >in actually manipulating the files. I have no idea what this man's >skill level is, but neither will the artist who wanted their MIDI >tracks remixed. How will they know, or why would the trust their >work with someone who sounded as if he didn't know a MIDI file, from >a Mini Skirt, but again I sound too harsh. Dj Ice might just be the >next Cameron Paul, all I know, but I was not impressed with his >sales pitch.... > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: stuart ricks >Reply-To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com >To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Samplestation] Bad Comments Flying Around. >Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:34:28 +0100 (BST) > >Some comments arent really all that fair, lets be >honest at the end of the day music is music, wether >its made from midi, wav or mp3 files. It also shouldnt >matter how competant you are, music is not a serious >attitude, its supose to be fun and an enjoyment. > >I admit I dont know a great deal about midi files or >how they work, but the whole point is that with each >step you learn, and hopefully with this group we help >and teatch each other about different mediums and >forms of working. > >Dont diss someone just because they dont know, help >them to understand there problem, or give honest >critisism. DJKameleon > >____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk >or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:44:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29255; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:36:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:36:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008401c0edf6$5ea9d4e0$96456f40@oemcomputer> From: "petr" To: , References: Subject: Re: Clean rhythmn and dirty solos -set up question Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:33:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDRemoteIP: 64.111.69.150 X-Return-Path: petr@tryi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: petr@tryi.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x loop > of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean rhythm but > when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to a dirty > sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as to > record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound. *** I have 2120 as well. I place my EDP after 2120. I run 2120 together with several other sources (mics, percussion, etc.) through Samson mixer's aux out into EDP. Works just wonderful. I would not see 2120's f/x loop useful in your case. _________________________________________ Petr Dolák music * poetry * guitar looping * commodeon * percussion www.geocities.com/pepetr http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/229/petr_dolak_samojsky.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:50:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29813; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:47:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:47:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:47:17 -0500 Subject: Looping dee-vices From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <008401c0edf6$5ea9d4e0$96456f40@oemcomputer> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey all, What looping devices out there will allow you to REMOVE layers once you've stacked them? I enjoy my boomerang, but sometimes I'd like to go back a few steps. It only allows you to build upward, not really allowing you to take any alternate directions... thanks, mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:51:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29518; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:43:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:43:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <012c01c0edf7$96daca80$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: asheville loopers Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:42:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Welcome back, Jan! I remember your MaxMSP work. Almost made me get a Mac (BTW: the Max for PC, promised for release in the last century, is still not yet available.) Is that Asheville, NC, (USA)? I'm rather far away in Indiana but still interested in what you're up to. Keep us posted! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 15:58:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30261; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:55:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:55:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1BE@kes.camcare.com> From: "Wegmann, Greg" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Looping dee-vices Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:57:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I just purchased the Gibson Echoplex and it has an undo button that will cancel a previous action or erase a previous cycle. It can erase several layers if memory permits. I still have a whole universe of possibilities to explore with the echoplex and hope to post more information later. weg -----Original Message----- From: Mike Feeney [mailto:feeneymike@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 3:47 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looping dee-vices Hey all, What looping devices out there will allow you to REMOVE layers once you've stacked them? I enjoy my boomerang, but sometimes I'd like to go back a few steps. It only allows you to build upward, not really allowing you to take any alternate directions... thanks, mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 16:09:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31702; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:03:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:03:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <014801c0edfa$26248b70$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <20010604230320.94076.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> <003301c0ed50$f8b2ae00$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> Subject: gig announcement Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:00:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My improv group, "TransSonic Music", will be performing at the Michiana Improvisational Music Festival this Sunday, June 10 at approximately 2 PM. I'll be looping somewhat, though I would not call it a "looper show." The Michiana Improvisational Music Festival is held on the South Bend (Indiana) campus of Indiana University. Schedule: Friday, June 8, 2001, Improv Sessions at 2, 4, & 7 PM Saturday, June 9, 2001, Improv Sessions at 9 & 11 AM, 2 PM Concerts at 4 & 8 PM Sunday, June 10, 2001, Improv session at 10 AM Concert at 2 PM All events are in Recital Hall, Northside Rm 158, on the campus of IU South Bend. Ticket prices for the three concerts are $5.00 in advance, $7.00 at the door. Hope to see some of you there! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 16:44:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32506; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:36:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:36:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106052035.NAA10173@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:43:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Reverb? I'll show you reverb: From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4bo-u.A.v7H.uKUH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Travis, I am not sure that I should thank you for posting this because I have waisted way too much time playing it and I will surely be fired from my job. This has got to be the most addicting thing I have ever played with!! Now, if we could only coordinate a bunch of LD participants at a specified time with their own loops to upload... -Allan ---------- >From: Travis Hartnett >To: "Looper's Delight" >Subject: Reverb? I'll show you reverb: >Date: Mon, Jun 4, 2001, 9:28 PM > > I don't recall this being discussed previously, but this is now #1 on my > list of places to play a ambient show at: > > http://www.silophone.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 16:45:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32546; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:37:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:37:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00bc01c0edff$53fb5ec0$1743f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106051840.OAA26332@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re:Electrix insecurity Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:37:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I personally have grown to love my Electrix products (I own the Filter Factory and the Warp Factory and just ordered the Mo-FX during this recent blowout deal.............I hope it gets sent). My feeling, and those of several self described processing freaks I know is that these products were priced too expensively, originally. There seems to be a magic line at $200 for specific effects boxes (unlike the plethora of multi-effects boxes on the market). This is, of course, a gross generalization, but I think if these wonderful deviced could be priced at around $200 they would sell much better. To most people, a vocoder or a filter box are very cool but not an 'essential' and it's hard to afford $300-$350 for something that's not essential. I bit the bullet, financially, to buy them, but I'm really glad I did. I really hope that they have a success with the Repeater. They've been a cool and innovative company!!! Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 16:50:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00683; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:47:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:47:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1D451E.898AF88B@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:46:22 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I bet this is right on the money. (no pun intended) It's possible that they're coming out with a new line, but selling a product that listed for $399 for $99? That seems VERY suspicious. Reminds me of when one of my roommates sold is 27" new TV for $75 to buy crack. (true story, I moved later that evening) I hope they don't buckle under the competition from the Againinator. Mark Sottilaro Mark Landman wrote: > Hmmmmm- If these products were selling well at all, I can't see why > Electrix would delete the revenue stream, especially now that Repeater is > getting ready to ship after a long painful and probably expensive delay. > > My guess would be manufacture of all the Repeater boxes and the attendant > delay in Repeater's shipping (and thus bringing in $) may have temporarily > put the company in a bind. > > The sell-off would raise extra cash quickly, though not as much as if > they'd left them at their previous prices. Still, probably worth doing if > you need the cash now, and perhaps Electrix has plans for replacement > products. I certainly hope so, I am in awe of Electrix user interface and > no preset concept. I was less in awe of the inflexible parrallel effx > routing of MoFx, and the filter box that went into "painful speaker > destroying 10 times louder than the previous signal" oscillation at a > resonance setting of about 50%. > > Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I > certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > > Mark > > >Peter Wilson (06:12 PM 06/04/01) wrote: > > > >>I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack > >>effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? > >> > >>--- > >>Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost > >>for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. > >> > >>Special Comment: > >>Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us > >>in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy > >>--- > > > >No, this is not true. My guess is that either Zzounds are being > >spoiled-sports or they're just not informed. > > > > > >It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's > >Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. > > > >Electrix is discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to > >focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. Repeaters are built, packed > >in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still > >looking at shipping very soon. > > > >It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their > >resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're > >seeing happen with Electrix. > > > > > >Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:27:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02818; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:23:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:23:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:22:08 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 21:22:08.0867 (UTC) FILETIME=[93D28B30:01C0EE05] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Crack for $75.00 ? Where are you from....? Then again, I digress. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:46:22 -0700 I bet this is right on the money. (no pun intended) It's possible that they're coming out with a new line, but selling a product that listed for $399 for $99? That seems VERY suspicious. Reminds me of when one of my roommates sold is 27" new TV for $75 to buy crack. (true story, I moved later that evening) I hope they don't buckle under the competition from the Againinator. Mark Sottilaro Mark Landman wrote: > Hmmmmm- If these products were selling well at all, I can't see why > Electrix would delete the revenue stream, especially now that Repeater is > getting ready to ship after a long painful and probably expensive delay. > > My guess would be manufacture of all the Repeater boxes and the attendant > delay in Repeater's shipping (and thus bringing in $) may have temporarily > put the company in a bind. > > The sell-off would raise extra cash quickly, though not as much as if > they'd left them at their previous prices. Still, probably worth doing if > you need the cash now, and perhaps Electrix has plans for replacement > products. I certainly hope so, I am in awe of Electrix user interface and > no preset concept. I was less in awe of the inflexible parrallel effx > routing of MoFx, and the filter box that went into "painful speaker > destroying 10 times louder than the previous signal" oscillation at a > resonance setting of about 50%. > > Repeater looks to be an absolute beauty, and I've got units on order. I > certainly wish the fine folks at Electrix the best- > > Mark > > >Peter Wilson (06:12 PM 06/04/01) wrote: > > > >>I mailed Zzounds.com to see if they'd match the $99 price on Electrix rack > >>effects. This was the reply I got. Can anyone confirm? > >> > >>--- > >>Unfortunately, we cannot compete with a price that is below dealer cost > >>for this item. This is an unusual situation, so please try The Spy again. > >> > >>Special Comment: > >>Sorry to say but Electrix is going out of business and did not include us > >>in their inventory liqiudation. Thanks the Spy > >>--- > > > >No, this is not true. My guess is that either Zzounds are being > >spoiled-sports or they're just not informed. > > > > > >It is true that Electrix made a deal with only Guitar Center/Musician's > >Friend. Both of these outfits are being shipped more boxes this week. > > > >Electrix is discontinuing their old product line in favor of being able to > >focus on new looping products, i.e., Repeater. Repeaters are built, packed > >in boxes, and waiting for final code so that they can ship. They're still > >looking at shipping very soon. > > > >It's pretty common these days for a small company to consolidate their > >resources on where they think the market is. I think that's what we're > >seeing happen with Electrix. > > > > > >Mark _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:29:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02626; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:21:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:21:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1D4D3B.6E83E68B@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:21:00 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: swirlee@angelfire.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: asheville loopers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In reference to your spine, I too had bad back problems that started a few months ago. Thought it was repetitive stress from work/guitar related stuff, but nothing (including not playing guitar) made it go away. (bad pain in the back and shoulders and numbness in both hands) As it turns out, it was all in my mind. Brought about initially by stress (just got married, wife moved in, job stuff) soon it fed on itself. Worry that I'd make it worse, made it worse. I read a book by Dr. John Sarno called "Healing back pain" and the pain started subsiding as I read! I'm now totally fine. The mind makes it real. Mark Sottilaro Jan Pek wrote: > hey everyone- > > well, im back from my yearlong sojourn through eastern europe and asia. last year around this time, i was developing a MaxMSP multichannel looper for polyrhythmic bliss-- which i called fripp~ . does anyone remember that? > > well, the situation is this; staying in step with the biorhythms puts me in a lowtech position. actually im starting a smoothie cart selling freshsqueeze in downtown asheville, and making a lot of animal noises and dancing like a drunken shaman. the scoliosis is evermending, the spine and ribcage are reshaping themselves magically, totally against all predictability by western medicine. > > but im interested in connecting with fellow loopers in asheville: spontaneous trance through meditative repetition. playing around with process. how do we hold the space for music to come through? if someone had a mac i could tweak around on, id probably want to continue working on new looping tools... > > see, i think of a west african drumming circle, and i think of the organizational metaphors;; ok, you play this, you play that. or a jazz band, where the song is the unit of loose organization around which the melodies rise. or sitting meditation, where the breath is often the anchor around which the journey focalizes. but of course these are just the tip of a vast matrix of dream incubators, of ways to coax the little devils out of their musical closets... > > so if you're into looping together, lets jiggit. > > love > jan > > > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! > http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:31:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03006; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:25:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:25:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.114.148] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looping dee-vices That Allow De-Layering Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:25:03 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 21:25:04.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC378CC0:01C0EE05] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Zoom ST - 224 has that capability, but it must be done while in Song Mode. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Mike Feeney Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Subject: Looping dee-vices Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:47:17 -0500 Hey all, What looping devices out there will allow you to REMOVE layers once you've stacked them? I enjoy my boomerang, but sometimes I'd like to go back a few steps. It only allows you to build upward, not really allowing you to take any alternate directions... thanks, mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:32:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03264; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:29:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:29:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C6D@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'" , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix going out of business? Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:28:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com haha -----Original Message----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix going out of business? Crack for $75.00 ? Where are you from....? Then again, I digress. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 17:42:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03759; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:37:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:37:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1D5318.465A@Hevanet.Com.> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:46:00 -0700 From: DaViD AuKeR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP memory question References: <200106051840.OAA26332@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7TbQuD.A.u5.JEVH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi - When upgrading memory in the EDP, in liu of 4MBs, can you use 8MB SIMMs, and/or 16MB SIMMs instead? I know the Guide says 256KB, 1MB, and 4MB... Thnx, David flute/synth/edp/dl4/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 18:18:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05659; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:16:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:16:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B1D4D3B.6E83E68B@zerocrossing.net> References: <3B1D4D3B.6E83E68B@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:06:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: asheville loopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >The mind makes it real. and you're thinkin'....you should have taken the blue pill... :) rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 19:31:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08432; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:24:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:24:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:23:53 EDT Subject: Re: gig announcement To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_b8.169e0a5d.284ec409_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_b8.169e0a5d.284ec409_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/01 4:02:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dennis@mdbs.com writes: > Hope to see some of you there! > yeah.....dont wear your "LD" tea shirt! why make it easy?.....:).....michael --part1_b8.169e0a5d.284ec409_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/01 4:02:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dennis@mdbs.com
writes:


Hope to see some of you there!


yeah.....dont wear your "LD" tea shirt! why make it easy?.....:).....michael --part1_b8.169e0a5d.284ec409_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 19:46:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08918; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:43:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:43:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9d.1677902d.284ec849@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:42:01 EDT Subject: Re: asheville loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9d.1677902d.284ec849_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <8ElWm.A.DLC.s5WH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_9d.1677902d.284ec849_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/01 5:21:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sine@zerocrossing.net writes: > As it turns out, it was all in my mind. yikes.....i guess "you always hurt the one you love".....:).....michael --part1_9d.1677902d.284ec849_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/01 5:21:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sine@zerocrossing.net writes:


As it turns out, it was all in my mind.  


yikes.....i guess "you always hurt the one you love".....:).....michael --part1_9d.1677902d.284ec849_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 19:50:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09189; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:47:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:47:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1D6F8C.3C4EFDEE@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:47:25 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Clean rhythmn and dirty solos -set up question References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4712583B3ADB8FB058E5421E" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------4712583B3ADB8FB058E5421E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need to put the RC-20 after the 2120. (I've got one) It won't work via the effect loop. AALev123@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x > loop > of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean > rhythm but > when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to > a dirty > sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as > to > record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound. > > Thanks. --------------4712583B3ADB8FB058E5421E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need to put the RC-20 after the 2120.  (I've got one)  It won't work via the effect loop.

AALev123@aol.com wrote:

Can anyone help me out-- I bought the RC-20 and when trying in the f/x loop
of a digtech 2120 ( my guitar f/xunit preamp) I recorded a clean rhythm but
when I switched to a dirty channel to solo the rhythm also changed to a dirty
sound. How do you set up these looping devises in a guitar rig so as to
record clean rhythmns and then play dirty solo's over the clean sound.
Thanks.
--------------4712583B3ADB8FB058E5421E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 21:06:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12670; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:03:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:03:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: ING-MM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <4A256A63.00054673.00@ingsydhog2.mercantilemutual.com.au> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:57:30 +1000 Subject: Electrix Electrix........ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Everyone has been talking about the electrix sale. Anyway, do any of the retailers have websites and are friendly to non-North American purchasers......Musicians Friend aren't friendly to me.....bo ho :-( I'm trying to find someone who will sell to me in Australia...Any help appreciated. Cheers, Anthony NOTICE The information contained in this electronic mail message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 21:34:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13483; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:32:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:32:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: <9a.15465a36.284ee1fc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:31:40 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix Electrix........ To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi-This is Jon from Alto-I have a few left and what the hell-I'll take a loss and sell them at this silly price-Email me at altomusic@altomusic.com,tell me what you want and I will dole them out first come first served-I am home so I don't know exactly what I have, but I have 7 or 8 pieces in stock.Happy Hunting! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 21:34:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13280; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:27:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:27:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Matt Jacques" To: Subject: RE: Electrix Electrix........ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <4A256A63.00054673.00@ingsydhog2.mercantilemutual.com.au> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nevermind Australia, I can't even get Electrix products delivered to CANADA, home of Electrix. I've contacted all the online sites, and none are willing to ship to canada. Well, SamAsh.com was, but that was for FULL PRICE only. And the most frustrating thing is that the local Electrix dealer (as indicated on the Electrix website) hadn't even heard of the company or products! What an embarassment for canada. There's this great canadian company and great products, but canadians can't order them online... and when we walk into a store they don't know what we're talking about! Ugh! Well, after some talking to, the dealer found that "Hey, what do you know, I CAN order you those Electrix things"... but for FULL PRICE. Anyways, I feel your pain australia... the search continues (any suggestions welcome)... Matt -----Original Message----- From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au [mailto:Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au] Sent: 2001mm05 6:58 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Electrix Electrix........ Everyone has been talking about the electrix sale. Anyway, do any of the retailers have websites and are friendly to non-North American purchasers......Musicians Friend aren't friendly to me.....bo ho :-( I'm trying to find someone who will sell to me in Australia...Any help appreciated. Cheers, Anthony NOTICE The information contained in this electronic mail message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 5 22:04:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15142; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:01:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:01:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010606020102.11607.qmail@web3503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:01:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Deveaux Subject: Re: Electrix Electrix........ To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9a.15465a36.284ee1fc@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I would like the WARP & MO FX. Please let me know if any are left. Thanks, --- JHKNICKS@aol.com wrote: > Hi-This is Jon from Alto-I have a few left and > what the hell-I'll take a loss > and sell them at this silly price-Email me at > altomusic@altomusic.com,tell me > what you want and I will dole them out first > come first served-I am home so I > don't know exactly what I have, but I have 7 or > 8 pieces in stock.Happy > Hunting! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 01:57:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA21564; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:53:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:53:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0ee4c$bd897000$09856fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: Subject: Warning! Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:30:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Beware of fiddling with your PC... leave well alone! A friend has been having some trouble with his computer system.. Last year he upgraded to Girlfriend 1.0 from DrinkingMates 4.0, which he'd used for years without trouble. Apparently there are conflicts between these two systems; the only solution was to try and run Girlfriend with the sound turned off. To make matters worse, Girlfriend is incompatible with several other applications, such as BoysNightOut 3.1, Football 2.6 and all versions of PornPlus. Successive versions of Girlfriend proved no better, Girlfriend 3.0 has many bugs and left a virus in his system forcing him to shut down completely for several weeks. Eventually he tried installing Girlfriend 4.0 only to discover the two ystems detect each other and cause severe damage to all his hardware. Sensing a way out he upgraded to Fiancée 1.0, only to discover to his dismay that this system requires upgrading to Wife 1.0 however whilst Wife 1.0 uses up all available resources, it does come bundled with FreeSexPlus. Imagine my friends disappointment though on discovering that FreeSexPlus can only be run on a well warmed up system, and even then you can't guarantee access; it also refused some new plug-ins he'd been keen to try. Wife 1.0 also has a rather unattractive pop-up called Mother-in-Law, which unfortunately cannot be turned off. Recently he has been tempted to try the Mistress 2000 add on, but there could be problems. Should Wife 1.0 detect the presence of the Mistress 2000 package, it will delete all MSMoney files before uninstalling itself. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 02:11:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22999; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:09:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:09:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010606001328.007c51a0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 00:13:28 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Warning! In-Reply-To: <000201c0ee4c$bd897000$09856fd4@dolly> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! Goddess --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 02:26:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23297; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:18:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:18:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [4.35.108.131] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:17:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 06:17:17.0097 (UTC) FILETIME=[55D1A190:01C0EE50] Resent-Message-ID: <_oJf6B.A.0rF.MscH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ah the truth hurts don't it?? db >From: Goddess >AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! > >Goddess > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 02:26:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23609; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:22:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:22:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010606062141.76429.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:21:41 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Warning! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000201c0ee4c$bd897000$09856fd4@dolly> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Other problems with Girlfriend 1.0......... 1) operator must perform ALL data dumps in a separate room with adequate ventilation. 2) frequently receive message to "log off". John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 02:30:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24032; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:26:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:26:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [4.35.108.131] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:26:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 06:26:03.0324 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F797FC0:01C0EE51] Resent-Message-ID: <-4cgCB.A.b1F._zcH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: John Tidwell >Other problems with Girlfriend 1.0......... > >1) operator must perform ALL data dumps in > a separate room with adequate ventilation. > >2) frequently receive message to "log off". >> >John you know i've received that second message from various "demo" or "Beta" versions of Girlfriend 1.0 - but my msg had another word in place of "log" in "log off" :-D db _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 04:44:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27946; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 04:41:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 04:41:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.98.52] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Samplestation@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Samplestation] re: response to your reply. Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:40:02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 08:40:03.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[478E9200:01C0EE64] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Oh, the Triton Pro (76 Key ?), yes I know it well, I am using that one as we speak, but I digress. I sniffed through your email, and I smell trouble. It seems as if you have a reBirth problem, but do you really ? (I hope these aren't warez, cracked versions.... that series of programs are hot on the warez sites, and it's just a coincidence that you have them...., but I digress). ReBirth is similar to Fruity Loops Pro, except you are not using .wav files. The ReBirth is a synth, and many of the sounds (if not all), are generated by the application. You just need some help in programming the interface, which is like a Drum Machine, Synth and Tracker all in one. Now, to program it, you must understand step recording (that's simple), and have some music theory... 1/2 beats all that jazz. I can't really sit here and type all that is involved with the app, because it is very extensive and difficult, ( I know I dragged through it). But make sure you do not have the "cracked" version. It (I hear) does not function properly. It's like having the demo, but with save function. You can not import skins, and no matter what you try, you keep getting that Demo song in that Bad Oscar! Trying to clear the banks, so that you can imput your own stuff is difficult, so I HOPE you have the real version, WareZ just suck. Well, if you still need help, ask me something specific, and I will try to help as much as I can. There is a cool app called ReMaker, which will convert your .rbs files to .wav files for further mixing... but I digress! *** Special Note - I really don't have anything against WareZ, back in the day, I was poor and destitute, so that was the only way I could get this stuff, now I am gainfully employed, so I have no problem buying the original apps (no matter the cost.... well I did buy ACID 3.0 for $99.00, but that is another matter). Peace and Hair Grease ! ----Original Message Follows---- Ok now this thread is boring me.....wish i never said anything now. Right now all is said and done, i wonder if you guys can help me, Ive been using programmes like acid pro 2, friuty loops 3, cool edit pro 2000 and soundforge five get on with them brilliantly but and its a big BUT, (not mine i have quite a cute but) i bought Steinbergs ReBirth 2.0.1 quite some time ago cost me alot and really cant get on with it, i understand its a sequencer/synth/sampler but really how does it work the manual you get with it you need a manual to understand it, I presume it again deals with the good ol'midi files, and if this is the case i really need to save up for that triton keyboard. mmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM dounts! ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 08:48:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA02515; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:44:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:44:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1E3374.497AB548@cabq.gov> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:43:16 -0700 From: Jason Fink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix Electrix........ References: <9a.15465a36.284ee1fc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jon, I would like to get a Filter Factory if you still have one available. Thanks, -jas Jason FInk 1008 Columbia Dr NE JHKNICKS@aol.com wrote: > Hi-This is Jon from Alto-I have a few left and what the hell-I'll take a loss > and sell them at this silly price-Email me at altomusic@altomusic.com,tell me > what you want and I will dole them out first come first served-I am home so I > don't know exactly what I have, but I have 7 or 8 pieces in stock.Happy > Hunting! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 09:40:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04330; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:31:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:31:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AALev123@aol.com Message-ID: <80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:31:10 EDT Subject: Re: Clean rhythmn and dirty solos -set up question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks I did ot and played for hours last night. I guess having it in the loop was causing the "looped" sound to go back into the 2120 and get processed--I finally understand that the looper had to be post processing ............. --part1_80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks I did ot and played for hours last night. I guess having it in the
loop was causing the "looped" sound to go back into the 2120 and get
processed--I finally understand that the looper had to be post processing
............. --part1_80.b9b3b9d.284f8a9e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 10:39:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06598; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:33:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:33:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:26:31 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: asheville loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <004701c0ee8c$4cdce130$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <3B1D4D3B.6E83E68B@zerocrossing.net> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com LOL! ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: Re: asheville loopers > >The mind makes it real. > > and you're thinkin'....you should have taken the blue pill... :) > > rich > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 10:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07395; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:54:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:54:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002c01c0ee98$6a87d3a0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:53:09 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From: "Professor Vast" > >2) frequently receive message to "log off". > you know i've received that second message from various "demo" or "Beta" > versions of Girlfriend 1.0 - but my msg had another word in place of "log" > in "log off" :-D Does it start with a 'b'? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 11:37:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09151; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:28:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:28:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:19:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Warning! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, much less without an OT in the topic header. passing on stupid jokes about disfunctional marraiges doesn't encourage any change...hey, let's all go watch 'married with children'! let's reinforce outdated, useless and harmful social mores! and if you're old school, i'm sure we can dig up some 'all in the family'. 2cents, rich >ah the truth hurts don't it?? > >db > >>From: Goddess > >>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! >> >>Goddess >> >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 11:48:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09570; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:41:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:41:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C7E@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Warning! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:40:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <4IBgI.A.TVC.E8kH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wow a new self appointed list moderator -----Original Message----- From: rich [mailto:rich@nuvisionsca.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:19 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 11:55:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10059; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:51:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:51:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: THusken@aol.com Message-ID: <10f.ce14c6.284fab30@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:50:08 EDT Subject: Re: Warning! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10f.ce14c6.284fab30_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10524 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_10f.ce14c6.284fab30_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -allthough admittadley OT I must admit I found it humorous. Lighten up people. I doubt that peolple who are actually simple enough to be sexist (-or racist, etc etc) would be bright enough to pick up on the humor in something like that to begin with. Am I wrong? It's tounge in cheek humor...remember?! --part1_10f.ce14c6.284fab30_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -allthough admittadley OT I must admit I found it humorous.  Lighten up
people.  I doubt that peolple who are actually simple enough to be sexist
(-or racist, etc etc) would be bright enough to pick up on the humor in
something like that to begin with.  Am I wrong?  It's tounge in cheek
humor...remember?! --part1_10f.ce14c6.284fab30_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 12:12:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11592; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:08:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:08:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:07:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 16:07:16.0426 (UTC) FILETIME=[C17692A0:01C0EEA2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com oh cmon, it's ok to have fun now and then. db >From: rich >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Warning! >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:19:16 -0700 > >c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, much less >without an OT in the topic header. > >passing on stupid jokes about disfunctional marraiges doesn't >encourage any change...hey, let's all go watch 'married with >children'! let's reinforce outdated, useless and harmful social >mores! > >and if you're old school, i'm sure we can dig up some 'all in the family'. > >2cents, > >rich > >>ah the truth hurts don't it?? >> >>db >> >>>From: Goddess >> >>>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! >>> >>>Goddess >>> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:21:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14121; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:15:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:15:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C7E@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:14:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Warning! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I agree with Rich. This isn't the place for crap like that. Especially lame email jokes that have been around for 5 years like that wife 1.0 thing. Seriously, you have to be under a rock if you haven't received that crusty old joke 900 times already. It's as bad as hoax virus warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. please don't waste list bandwidth and people's time forwarding stuff like that, that is not an appropriate use of any mailing list. If it got forwarded to you, then its safe to assume the rest of us already got it a long time ago. We don't want it again. kim At 8:40 AM -0700 6/6/01, Taaffe, Denis G wrote: >wow a new self appointed list moderator > >-----Original Message----- >From: rich [mailto:rich@nuvisionsca.com] >Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:19 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Warning! > > >c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, m ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:34:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14432; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:26:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:26:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Splitting a Siganl With out Quality Loss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.5 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:30:00 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could purchase_i would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 and run it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions would be great! thanks c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:41:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14700; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:32:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:32:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: alex@postal.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:31:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Alex Stahl Subject: RE: Warning! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <_QpbcC.A.jlD.OkmH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >It's as bad as hoax virus >warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. I agree and didn't find that joke funny the first time I saw it a decade ago. Still, I can't help but smile at the irony of decrying its repetitive appearance, on the looper's list. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:41:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14701; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:32:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:32:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:30:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200106061730.f56HUfQ02718@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: Electrix Electrix........ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jon I want a Filter factory do you need The credit card Number? Andy At 09:31 p.m. 05/06/01 EDT, you wrote: >Hi-This is Jon from Alto-I have a few left and what the hell-I'll take a loss >and sell them at this silly price-Email me at altomusic@altomusic.com,tell me >what you want and I will dole them out first come first served-I am home so I >don't know exactly what I have, but I have 7 or 8 pieces in stock.Happy >Hunting! > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:45:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15128; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:40:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:40:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009e01c0eeaf$70367b00$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:38:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well Alex, I'd say sometimes we loop flatulence and it sounds ok, sometimes, it's drives people up a tree ... gagging. Cheers, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Stahl" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:31 PM Subject: RE: Warning! > >It's as bad as hoax virus > >warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. > > I agree and didn't find that joke funny the first time I saw it a > decade ago. Still, I can't help but smile at the irony of decrying > its repetitive appearance, on the looper's list. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 13:52:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15647; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:49:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:49:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006401c0eeb0$060c5460$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: EDP Midi updates in new OS? Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:40:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C0EE75.24936E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C0EE75.24936E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mattias and Kim-=20 Hi guys- been using my EDP synced or generating Midi Clock lately- = either to Cubase, Acid or out to a delay unit- I am wondering if the new = software will support timecode and also if there will be a way to = re-sync to incoming clock on the fly- the 2 sources drift after awhile = and also it would make tempo transitions smooth I think- Thanks again- = Cliff PS- Should have FilterFactory, MoFx, and a WarpFactory in a few days- = couldn't resist the price- getting more interesting by the minute at my = place.... ;) ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C0EE75.24936E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi guys- been using my EDP synced or generating Midi = Clock=20 lately- either to Cubase, Acid or out to a delay unit- I am wondering if = the new=20 software will support timecode and also if there will be a way to = re-sync to=20 incoming clock on the fly- the 2 sources drift after awhile and also it = would=20 make tempo transitions smooth I think- Thanks again- Cliff
 
PS- Should have FilterFactory, MoFx, and a = WarpFactory in a=20 few days- couldn't resist the price-  getting more interesting by = the=20 minute at my place.... ;)
------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C0EE75.24936E40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:21:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17483; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:14:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:14:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:16:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Repeater Delay again? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I hope this is all B.S., but the Gaspedal.com effx site tersely mentions in it's Electrix area: "Sampler has been pushed back till Oct 2001...Who Knows" Damon, Don anyone, please say it ain't so! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:30:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18017; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:29:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:29:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010606123311.007e5df0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:33:11 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Warning! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com NOT BLOODY LIKELY! lol! Smiles, G At 11:17 PM 6/5/01 -0700, you wrote: >ah the truth hurts don't it?? > >db > >>From: Goddess > >>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! >> >>Goddess >> >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:35:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18301; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:32:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:32:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010606123641.007e8500@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:36:41 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Warning! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com *laughing* I sware, I'll have to dig up Boyfriend 1.0, I know it's around here somewhere... Smiles, G At 11:26 PM 6/5/01 -0700, you wrote: >>From: John Tidwell > >>Other problems with Girlfriend 1.0......... >> >>1) operator must perform ALL data dumps in >> a separate room with adequate ventilation. >> >>2) frequently receive message to "log off". >>> >>John > >you know i've received that second message from various "demo" or "Beta" >versions of Girlfriend 1.0 - but my msg had another word in place of "log" >in "log off" :-D > >db >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:40:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18706; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:38:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:38:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:33:50 -0700 Subject: Re: Repeater Delay again? From: Jamie Drouin To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <76GhnB.A.JkE.6hnH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Not true. Not sure where that info came from, but it wasn't from us. on 6/6/01 11:16 AM, Mark Landman at landman@wco.com wrote: > I hope this is all B.S., but the Gaspedal.com effx site tersely mentions in > it's Electrix area: > > "Sampler has been pushed back till Oct 2001...Who Knows" > > Damon, Don anyone, please say it ain't so! > > Mark > Jamie Drouin Visual Designer for Electrix (a division of IVL Technologies Ltd) 6710 Bertram Place, Victoria, BC, V8M 1Z6 Canada email... jamie@electrixpro.com fax... 250-544-4102 voice... 250-544-4114 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 14:53:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19111; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:44:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:44:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C84@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: girlfriend hand exerciser Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:44:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ok, now that we have spent 20 messages or so condeming this girlfriend dominatrix 1.0revisonb and I realize that I am adding to the shit heap with this message can we move on? I was just being sarcastic about the list moderator thing...laugh a little cry alittle move on...haha don't spam me publicly for this verbal diahrreah denis Denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com ---- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:07:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20813; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:03:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:03:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010606130759.0093e140@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:07:59 -0600 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: DL-4 question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com LOL! Perhaps I should have said, LD-4, or LM-4 or maybe XQ-4 instead! OK, anyway, I'm curious, I know the exp pedal one can buy for the DL-4 can allow one to control the loop's volume in realtime. Are there any other options available for it, by this I mean, rather than using it to continuously control loop level, can it be configured to start and stop sampling, perhaps if it were pressed fully up or down. I know that some CC pedals can work this way. i'm just not sure if it can be linked in the DL-4 to anything other than the level parameter. Thanks so much for any feedback. Smiles, Goddess --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:24:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21383; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:21:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:21:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:22:43 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: DL-4 question... Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >OK, anyway, I'm curious, I know the exp pedal one can buy for the DL-4 can >allow one to control the loop's volume in realtime. Are there any other >options available for it, by this I mean, rather than using it to >continuously control loop level, can it be configured to start and stop >sampling, perhaps if it were pressed fully up or down. I know that some CC >pedals can work this way. i'm just not sure if it can be linked in the >DL-4 to anything other than the level parameter. Thanks so much for any >feedback. > The pedal can be programmed to control any of the 5 front panel knobs, Delay, Repeats, Tweak, Tweez and Mix. You can control any combination of the 5, and any range of parameters within them. For example, you can have the delay control go through 1/4 of it's range while the repeats control goes from 0 to max. It's a pretty amazingly flexible system, and really easy to program as well. However, it can't be configured to start and stop sampling, so it won't do what you want. But it will do a heck of a lot instead! Hope this helps... ____________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org New & Improv Media http://www.newandimprov.com Now available: Admiral Twinkle Devil: Wabi Dub ____________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:27:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21764; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:24:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:24:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Michael Hunter" Importance: Normal Subject: Electrix Available here too! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Sender: "Michael Hunter" Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:20:33 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML235/01/M/IBM(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 06/06/2001 03:23:21 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Zzound's not matching,eh?! Strange....check this out... I went to my local music store and told them about the price drop. They honored the new price after hearing about Sam Ash and GTR Centers price drop. :-) I got the MO-FX and the FilterFactory...$99.00 each! They called me back today and asked for me to bring the card board boxes back to get some info....apparently Electrix is going to refund the difference in the wholesale cost to the store... Good business practice, eh? Doesn't sould like a move a company gong out of business would make, I think. So, if you want any of these Electrix items, I'd give them a call. Russo Music 1989 Arena Dr. Hamilton, NJ 609-888-0620 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:31:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22167; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:28:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:28:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010606130759.0093e140@mail.earthlink.net> References: <3.0.5.32.20010606130759.0093e140@mail.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:27:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: DL-4 question... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Goddess speaks: > LOL! Perhaps I should have said, LD-4, or LM-4 or maybe >XQ-4 instead! >OK, anyway, I'm curious, I know the exp pedal one can buy for the DL-4 can >allow one to control the loop's volume in realtime. Are there any other >options available for it, by this I mean, rather than using it to >continuously control loop level, can it be configured to start and stop >sampling, perhaps if it were pressed fully up or down. I know that some CC >pedals can work this way. i'm just not sure if it can be linked in the >DL-4 to anything other than the level parameter. Thanks so much for any >feedback. on the DL-4, you can make one dial setting be the top of the pedal's travel, and another setting be the bottom of the pedal's travel, and just morph between the two settings with the pedal. so in some ways you can control ALL the parameters. the bad part is that the pedal jumps to the location that it happens to be at when you switch presets which can be VERY annoying. you'd need to exert some discipline like always moving the pedal to the bottom when changing presets. there's no way as far as I know to get it to act as a trigger. /t .....all legal games of chess ... ........formal model of chess ............. ...programmer's documentation ............... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:45:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22981; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:42:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:42:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C84@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> References: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C84@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:34:25 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: list looping (was: Re: Warning!) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com again, I'm moved to point out how email flurries are in fact caused by uncontrolled feedback, looping in this case through the looper's delight mailing list. when the feedback ratio exceeds 1, when each email generates more than one response, there's an email flurry and your in-box howls... /t .....all legal games of chess ... ........formal model of chess ............. ...programmer's documentation ............... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:49:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22678; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:40:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:40:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:44:16 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1iuEmB.A.thF.-boH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com a resource for these splitters soon! thanks On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:30:00 -0400 "Christopher White" wrote: > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > purchase_i > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 and > run > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions would be > great! > thanks > c > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:50:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23381; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:46:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:46:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:43:53 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: atze-ton@t-online.de (P. C. Falk) Subject: RE: Warning! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: 520088622683-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>It's as bad as hoax virus >>warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. > >I agree and didn't find that joke funny the first time I saw it a >decade ago. Still, I can't help but smile at the irony of decrying >its repetitive appearance, on the looper's list. I GIVE A FUCK TO YOUR PC VIRUS . DONT NO WHY ??????? BECAUSE I THINK & USE A MAC THE FUCK YOU CREW -- with best regards . p.s. take a look at my German homepage at : http://atze-ton.bei.t-online.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 15:53:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23806; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:50:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:50:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:49:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 19:49:32.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE2D7BC0:01C0EEC1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just make sure there aren't any "back door trojans" on there.... whahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahaahahhaha i swear, i could amuse myself for days...and often do :-D db >From: Goddess > *laughing* I sware, I'll have to dig up Boyfriend 1.0, I know it's >around here somewhere... > >Smiles, > >G > > At 11:26 PM 6/5/01 -0700, you wrote: > >>From: John Tidwell > > > >>Other problems with Girlfriend 1.0......... > >> > >>1) operator must perform ALL data dumps in > >> a separate room with adequate ventilation. > >> > >>2) frequently receive message to "log off". > >>> > >>John > > > >you know i've received that second message from various "demo" or "Beta" > >versions of Girlfriend 1.0 - but my msg had another word in place of >"log" > >in "log off" :-D > > > >db > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > >--- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. >-Then, anything is possible..." > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 16:07:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25494; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:03:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:03:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015201c0eec3$8a5280b0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:01:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > > purchase_i > > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 and > > run > > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions would be > > great! Hi Chris! I've been waiting for some sp808 owners to pipe-up...but they seem quiet now. Cm'on you guys! In the meantime, I can try to help. I don't know the sp808 but why can't you just use a splitter from Radio Shack? Is it an active (line-level) output? 1/4" tip/ring/sleeve connector? More info, please. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 16:22:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26041; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:19:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:19:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:10:06 -0400 To: "Art List" From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance with Trance Dance 6.9.01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Folks, I'll be doing video improvisations as part of a Participatory Dance event called Trance Dance on Saturday night. So come shake your butt and tickle your eyeballs:) I don't know the admission price, but I'm sure its not huge. The last two were really fun, and had both live music and DJ 's spinning trancy world-beat. Sat.June 9 8:30 PM - 12:30 PM Arlington Town Hall 730 Mass. Ave Arlington, MA black light instillation, art instillation A sacred space celebrating the transformational power of music, dance and art and the power of community. To dance then,is to pray, to meditate, to enter into communion with the larger dance, which is the un -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 17:13:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28850; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:08:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:08:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008901c0eed6$75f55bc0$f99a46cf@txucom.net> From: "T. Peirce Baker" To: References: <015201c0eec3$8a5280b0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:17:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <1GU7QB.A.KCH.4tpH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com get a stereo direct box for crying out loud! or a $99.00 Behringer 8 channel mixer, its quiet and will give many options.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Leas" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! > > > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > > > purchase_i > > > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 and > > > run > > > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions would be > > > great! > > Hi Chris! > > I've been waiting for some sp808 owners to pipe-up...but they seem quiet > now. Cm'on you guys! > > In the meantime, I can try to help. I don't know the sp808 but why can't > you just use a splitter from Radio Shack? Is it an active (line-level) > output? 1/4" tip/ring/sleeve connector? More info, please. > > Dennis Leas > ------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 17:25:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29408; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:20:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:20:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010606171809.009f3670@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 17:21:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: simple workaround Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_17950050==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: <2t3-9D.A.HLH.65pH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_17950050==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > Recently he has been tempted to try the Mistress 2000 add on, but there could be problems. Should Wife 1.0 detect the presence of the Mistress 2000 package, it will delete all MSMoney files before uninstalling itself < i think that Wife 1.0 PRO allows multiple-installs if you have the crack called "religion". a:c ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_17950050==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
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--=====================_17950050==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 18:28:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31741; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:25:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:25:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010606222429.5183.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:24:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert K Subject: Re: Splitting a Siganl With out Quality Loss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <5Wn9zC.A.0vH.f2qH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com someone listed this web site last week looks like the trick .. http://www.nobels.com/english.htm --- Christopher White wrote: > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > purchase_i > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 > and run > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions > would be > great! > thanks > c > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 18:58:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32343; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:44:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:44:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1EB314.517D5B5D@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:51:27 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Warning! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "P. C. Falk" wrote: > ...I GIVE A FUCK TO YOUR PC VIRUS . > > DONT NO WHY ??????? please don't yell at us... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 19:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32695; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:55:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:55:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003c01c0eedb$bc51cd60$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:54:56 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Why did it take "P. C. Falk" so long to say this?: > I GIVE A FUCK TO YOUR PC VIRUS . > DONT NO WHY ??????? > BECAUSE I THINK & USE A MAC > THE FUCK YOU CREW > -- > with best regards . Ah, sarcasm. How does one "think a Mac"? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 19:46:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02268; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:41:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:41:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AaroneousAG@aol.com Message-ID: <1e.16d996ad.28501976@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:40:38 EDT Subject: goodbye, old friend To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I unscrew the last bolt which has held him in place and with a heavy heart I pull him out of his case hook him up to the mixer for old time's sake but this time his echoes sound heartless and fake My band in a box Is now going away to a far away person that I met through ebay I know why he's mad why he's sour and miffed his new owner may make him loop bad Slayer riffs He's taught me so much and he's brought me so far but that road has run out and now I'm selling the car The response to my call, the pillow when I fall he's been everything and all and now I'm sorry to say That I needed the money I wish I'd been sweeter but I just sold my Jamman and bought a Repeater aaroneous P.S. Before any of you accuse me of opportunism, please note that I sold him for the exact amount I bought him for, if you count the memory expansion, and for a lot less than I was offered. (Thanks, Todd!) I'm a still a little broken up about it, but like to think that he's going to a good home. Machines have souls, given to them by the love and care of their inventor and the appreciation of their user. Think about it next time you bang your keyboard in frustration, or stomp angrily at your cranky LD-4 . . . I need to get out more . . . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:07:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03947; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:03:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:03:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01c501c0eee5$b4d5b600$fc518218@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: <1e.16d996ad.28501976@aol.com> Subject: Re: goodbye, old friend Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:06:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wonderful- but it is a cruel deed and you should feel very guilty about it- even if another may reap wonderful benefits from your heartless sacrifice- Thank you for writing that poem! Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:40 PM Subject: goodbye, old friend > I unscrew the last bolt > which has held him in place > and with a heavy heart > I pull him out of his case > > hook him up to the mixer > for old time's sake > but this time his echoes > sound heartless and fake > > My band in a box > Is now going away > to a far away person > that I met through ebay > > I know why he's mad > why he's sour and miffed > his new owner may make him > loop bad Slayer riffs > > He's taught me so much > and he's brought me so far > but that road has run out > and now I'm selling the car > > The response to my call, > the pillow when I fall > he's been everything and all > and now I'm sorry to say > > That I needed the money > I wish I'd been sweeter > but I just sold my Jamman > and bought a Repeater > > > aaroneous > > > P.S. Before any of you accuse me of opportunism, please note that I sold him > for the > exact amount I bought him for, if you count the memory expansion, and for a > lot less > than I was offered. (Thanks, Todd!) I'm a still a little broken up about > it, but like to > think that he's going to a good home. Machines have souls, given to them by > the > love and care of their inventor and the appreciation of their user. Think > about it next > time you bang your keyboard in frustration, or stomp angrily at your cranky > LD-4 . . . I > need to get out more . . . > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:14:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04309; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:11:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:11:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:10:51 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Delay again? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <91N1ZD.A.8CB.WasH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com jamie@electrixpro.com writes: >Not true. Not sure where that info came from, but it wasn't from us. thanks for the public info. blup, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:19:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04629; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:16:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:16:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <6d.1515f967.285021c1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:16:01 EDT Subject: Re: Warning! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thefates@earthlink.net writes: >*laughing* I sware, I'll have to dig up Boyfriend 1.0, I know it's >around here somewhere... it's probably just way too much material to fit in a single e-mail. to paraphrase author robertson davies, if loosely: 'what *some* women exhibit once-per-month, *all* men exhibit daily'. or some such..... blap, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:21:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05031; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:20:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:20:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.100.190] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: girlfriend hand exerciser Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:19:14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 00:19:14.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[7BAD39A0:01C0EEE7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The man uses big words mommy..... You go boy ! ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Taaffe, Denis G" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: girlfriend hand exerciser Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:44:22 -0500 ok, now that we have spent 20 messages or so condeming this girlfriend dominatrix 1.0revisonb and I realize that I am adding to the shit heap with this message can we move on? I was just being sarcastic about the list moderator thing...laugh a little cry alittle move on...haha don't spam me publicly for this verbal diahrreah denis Denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com ---- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 20:25:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04804; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:18:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:18:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.100.190] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Warning - Ends Here ! Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:17:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 00:17:50.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[49511300:01C0EEE7] Resent-Message-ID: <_q7xiD.A.sKB.OhsH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Amen, it's worst than that guy who keeps including his SampleStation Thread replies with Looper Delight, or that guy who keeps praising ACID 3.0, like it was some sort of deity, or the guy who keeps trying to school want-a-be Dj/Producers, or... hey that's me...... I feel really bad. Oh, for those who think my SampleStation inclusions are off the mark, I apologize. I try to include enough of the thread in there, so you guys can comment, but alas, I failed in each try. Sometimes, I want the thread to get jumping, but when I make people unhappy, that saddens me. Oh, well thanks for your support. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Kim Flint Well, I agree with Rich. This isn't the place for crap like that. Especially lame email jokes that have been around for 5 years like that wife 1.0 thing. Seriously, you have to be under a rock if you haven't received that crusty old joke 900 times already. It's as bad as hoax virus warnings, it keeps coming back again and again and again. please don't waste list bandwidth and people's time forwarding stuff like that, that is not an appropriate use of any mailing list. If it got forwarded to you, then its safe to assume the rest of us already got it a long time ago. We don't want it again. kim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 21:25:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07339; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:20:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:20:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015b01c0eef0$512f7400$ca43f93f@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200106061745.NAA15505@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: OT girlfriend/wife/mistress joke and appropirateness Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:22:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dennis wrote: "wow a new self appointed list moderator" to which I reply: if someone wrote in with an offtopic racist joke, people would be all over there case. i just think that it has to be alienating to any woman to have such a 'boys club' atmosphere on our list. it is not a huge deal to me, nor am i outraged (being the WASP male that I am, i could actually see the humour in it and actually forwarded it to my realllllllllllyyy old school father) but i was also embarrassed that Goddess was forced to respond with AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHH. i want to be on a list that feels inclusive to everyone. this kind of post just seems a little counterproductive for that kind of vibe. i don't feel black and white about this issue and i think it is a general waste of time on this list. if you'd like to flame me,agree with me or elucidate me, please write me individually at GLOBAL@cruzio.com adn let's get onto the business of obsessing about ELECTRIX ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 22:04:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09195; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:00:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:00:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0eef5$58979060$03ac6fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: Subject: Re: Warning! - OT Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:33:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I sent it to a girl friend of mine and SHE thought it was funny. But I don't want to make a big thing of it -sorry if I offended anyone. Gareth lidoffadaffodil > c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, much less > without an OT in the topic header. > > passing on stupid jokes about disfunctional marraiges doesn't > encourage any change...hey, let's all go watch 'married with > children'! let's reinforce outdated, useless and harmful social > mores! > > and if you're old school, i'm sure we can dig up some 'all in the family'. > > 2cents, > > rich > > >ah the truth hurts don't it?? > > > >db > > > >>From: Goddess > > > >>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! > >> > >>Goddess > >> > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 22:56:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10239; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:54:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:54:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.12.60.95] From: "nathaniel wilson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: asheville looper Whazzup Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:53:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 02:53:22.0018 (UTC) FILETIME=[038E7C20:01C0EEFD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: rich >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: asheville loopers >Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:06:58 -0700 > >>The mind makes it real. > >and you're thinkin'....you should have taken the blue pill... :) > >rich > Heya jan, I lived in weaverville for about two years and in swannanoa for a year and a half!!! awesome awesome place!!! gotta love those mountains... i have many friends there and will probably be at bel sher this summer... some of my friends play in it... warren haynes son joey and his nephew timmy are super musicaly tallented so do look for them being downtown with your freezy stand... i will definately look for you... i haven't written anything on the loopy line (since take me off your list) but have been listening for about 6 months... cant acid take away layers as you experiment??? ive got the acid.00nothin and its all of your faults!!! you avid loopers!!! well no further ado... hope to see you soon jan and send me links to everyones loops everybody... peace seeya later Dirk Natdirk@hotmail.com msn messerupper ect... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 23:21:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA11884; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:19:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:19:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Re: asheville looper Whazzup To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:23:19 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <4Ey1q.A.k5C.sKvH7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com jan i will be performing live lloping and the like at vincent's ear on the 6th of july c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 6 23:28:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA12283; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:25:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:25:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:29:04 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <008901c0eed6$75f55bc0$f99a46cf@txucom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeh i already have a 1402 but i have all my auxs and 3/4s in use already i may go with the behringer just becuase it was cheap i was looking for a cheap solution to stereo splitting thanks c On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:17:22 -0700 "T. Peirce Baker" wrote: > get a stereo direct box for crying out loud! or a $99.00 > Behringer 8 channel > mixer, its quiet and will give many options.. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Leas" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! > > > > > > Do any of you know of a stereo splitter i could > > > > purchase_i > > > > would like to split the signal coming out my sp808 > and > > > > run > > > > it through my pedals and sherman-any suggestions > would be > > > > great! > > > > Hi Chris! > > > > I've been waiting for some sp808 owners to > pipe-up...but they seem quiet > > now. Cm'on you guys! > > > > In the meantime, I can try to help. I don't know the > sp808 but why can't > > you just use a splitter from Radio Shack? Is it an > active (line-level) > > output? 1/4" tip/ring/sleeve connector? More info, > please. > > > > Dennis Leas > > ------------------- > > dennis@mdbs.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 01:21:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA16615; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:19:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:19:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C9A@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:19:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey have you used your inserts on the 1402,i didn't figure that out till I had the thig for over a year....weak...you just need the right cable (y cable) Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher White [mailto:magicicada@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:29 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PLEase Help ME I am Dying! yeh i already have a 1402 but i have all my auxs and 3/4s in use already From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 01:24:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA17004; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:22:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:22:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C9B@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'dj_devious_d@hotmail.com'" , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Warning - Ends Here ! Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:21:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com man I wouldn't be on this list if it wasnt for all the reasons below 8-) ehe lol etc...loop... and what about all thsoe guys talking about electrix and their super blow out liquidation deal... Denis -----Original Message----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:18 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Warning - Ends Here ! Amen, it's worst than that guy who keeps including his SampleStation Thread replies with Looper Delight, or that guy who keeps praising ACID 3.0, like it was some sort of deity, or the guy who keeps trying to school want-a-be Dj/Producers, or... hey that's me..... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 04:50:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA23307; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 04:44:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 04:44:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607104830.00a98308@mail.mercurionet.com> X-Sender: masaccio@masaccio.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:48:51 +0200 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Leonardo Piras Subject: Electrix Repeater website update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Have you read the last update on the Electrix website ? They say they're almost ready.... So what will be the final shipping date? November for real.. or can we hope for a summer release? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 07:27:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA28199; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:23:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:23:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010607052703.007e9e70@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 05:27:03 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: -Hopefully, this will be the last one... -was- Re: Warning! - OT In-Reply-To: <000201c0eef5$58979060$03ac6fd4@dolly> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com First lemme' just apologize for contributing any more to this thread. Secondly, There's a difference, "SHE" knows you, I don't. Now, having said that, thanks alot for the apology, I appreciate it. If you'd like to reply to this, please feel free to e-mail me privately, K?, -and thanks again... Have a great day! Smiles, Goddess At 06:33 PM 6/6/01 +0100, you wrote: >I sent it to a girl friend of mine and SHE thought it was funny. >But I don't want to make a big thing of it -sorry if I offended anyone. > >Gareth > >lidoffadaffodil > >> c'mon, this is crap and doesn't even remotely belong here, much less >> without an OT in the topic header. >> >> passing on stupid jokes about disfunctional marraiges doesn't >> encourage any change...hey, let's all go watch 'married with >> children'! let's reinforce outdated, useless and harmful social >> mores! >> >> and if you're old school, i'm sure we can dig up some 'all in the family'. >> >> 2cents, >> >> rich >> >> >ah the truth hurts don't it?? >> > >> >db >> > >> >>From: Goddess >> > >> >>AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >>Goddess >> >> >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EF6A.3AD3D28A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 12:35:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05697; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:32:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:32:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:29:49 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Electrix Repeater website update In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607104830.00a98308@mail.mercurionet.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220190967==_ma============" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607104830.00a98308@mail.mercurionet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220190967==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 10:48 AM +0200 6/7/01, Leonardo Piras wrote: >Have you read the last update on the Electrix website ? They say >they're almost ready.... >So what will be the final shipping date? November for real.. or can >we hope for a summer release? The June 5 update states: "Repeater is still on schedule to start shipping this month." This is what I was told by a member of the Repeater development team, and it is what dealers have been saying. I think you should believe it. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1220190967==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Electrix Repeater website update
At 10:48 AM +0200 6/7/01, Leonardo Piras wrote:
Have you read the last update on the Electrix website ? They say they're almost ready....
So what will be the final shipping date? November for real.. or can we hope for a summer release?

The June 5 update states:

"Repeater is still on schedule to start shipping this month."

This is what I was told by a member of the Repeater development team, and it is what dealers have been saying. I think you should believe it.
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--============_-1220190967==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 13:18:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07799; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:14:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:14:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:12:30 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 17:12:30.0707 (UTC) FILETIME=[08F83430:01C0EF75] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > I GIVE A FUCK TO YOUR PC VIRUS . > > DONT NO WHY ??????? > > BECAUSE I THINK & USE A MAC > > THE FUCK YOU CREW > > -- > > with best regards . > >Ah, sarcasm. How does one "think a Mac"? > By thinking different? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 14:06:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10037; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:02:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:02:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Re: Warning! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:06:26 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com stop From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 14:38:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10875; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:30:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:30:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: WKlein8318@aol.com Message-ID: <60.f6b028e.285121c0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:28:16 EDT Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hallo, If you're interested in the Thunder I've got a lightning what is sadly languishing in a dusty corner of my studio. e-mail me for more info if you'd like it! Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 15:36:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13550; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:31:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:31:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B1FD66A.62E0C21F@mail.verizon.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:30:50 -0400 From: Mike Hunter Reply-To: vze298yr@verizon.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD BA45DSL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hey John at ALTO Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0UtmK.A.RTD.PZ9H7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey John!

My local music store called Electrix and they gave the info on the box side and got
the difference in the wholesale cost returned to them!!!!

MH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 16:32:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16164; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106072028.QAA16129@hemlock.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 22:29:19 +0200 Subject: AABA on JamMan From: "Frank Bilsen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi to all! I am trying to play an AABA scheme with my JamMan (32 sec.), but I am not succesful so far. I would like to record loop 1 (the first A) as follows: 4 bars in tempo 60 with 16 midi quarter notes in punch in loop mode, actually resulting in a 8 bars loop in tempo 120 with 32 quarter notes). Then loop 1 should be repeated (no layering, just playing) to form the second A. After that loop 2 should be recorded to form the B. Finally our first loop 1 comes back to form the third A. So this would buid an AABA scheme, which I would like to repeat a couple of times, each time adding new sounds to the first A and the B. I've tried to do this with the sequencer being the master and the Jamman as a slave. I am programming in Logic on my Mac.I would like to copy the final sequence in Logic to a stand alone sequencer (Yamaha QY70) which I could take with me on stage to drive the JamMan. I would like to use a headphone with a clicktrack for the first 2 or 3 choruses. I have found out that after recording the B (loop 2), there is no way of cuing the JamMan in order to continue playing loop 1 straight away. It wants to play loop 2 first. Well Okay....in that case I've decided to first get both loops in the Jamman by lowering the input knob to zero and start the sequencer. I programmed a Tap on the first beat of bar1 and it records loop 1 (4 bars, tempo 60), it plays loop1 and then goes into recording loop 2 with the same lenght. I let play loop 2 (which is silent, since the input knob is on zero) and raise the input knob to a good level. I cue loop 1 and start playing my instrument and recording my first A. It then starts playing the second A, I cue loop2 and sometimes it goes into record mode and sometimes not. Then things are getting messy and out of sync. I've tried dozens of diffent Tap commands but the JamMan just does what it likes. MY JAMMAN-SLAVE QUESTIONS: *is there someone who has already made a midi-file which can do an AABA scheme? *Could I record a click and then shift it forward to sound in sync. Will there be any cutoffs on my recordings? So, not being succesful I want to try and use the JamMan as the master controlling the sequencer. Before I spend another 20 hours on finding out how to do this, could someone tell me the secret??? Thanks for reading all this. Help greatly appreciated! Frank Bilsen -- The Music Lab Frank Bilsen Netherlands tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 fax: 0299-404834 e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl site: http://welcome.to/themusiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:14:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18223; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:12:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:12:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <65.157d54ec.285147dc@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:10:52 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix Repeater website update To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rz, >I think you should believe it. i do. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:44:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19192; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:42:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:42:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRK+WYLkmynTKsWWzTRh6sjOOzk8gIUS9W01vRMjPD4mJtSOKyL162jBwg= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:42:02 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller Message-ID: <26957-3B1FF52A-2793@storefull-617.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: WKlein8318@aol.com's message of Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:28:16 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear BIll, Could you give a brief explanation of the "lightning" and let us know how it works. Why is it collecting dust ? Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:50:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19565; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:47:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:47:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607144437.021dd460@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:45:34 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller In-Reply-To: <26957-3B1FF52A-2793@storefull-617.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com James Hines (02:42 PM 06/07/01) wrote: >Could you give a brief explanation of the "lightning" and let us >know how it works. Why is it collecting dust ? You can learn all about all sorts of fun Don Buchla creations from: http://www.buchla.com In specific: http://www.buchla.com/lightning/index.html Have fun! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:54:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19949; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:52:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:52:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010607145105.00a58b20@mail.midiwall.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:51:06 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <6wVRxD.A.d3E.7d_H7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com James Hines (02:42 PM 06/07/01) wrote: >Could you give a brief explanation of the "lightning" and let us >know how it works. Why is it collecting dust ? You can learn all about all sorts of fun Don Buchla creations from: http://www.buchla.com In specific: http://www.buchla.com/lightning/index.html Have fun! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 17:59:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20427; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:56:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:56:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRRswZ8sIdeIu2tZXNBuCx66bhuYwIUZC7Ao49WsYyMayvx0adbGckTHAc= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:55:35 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Buchla Thunder Controller Message-ID: <26960-3B1FF857-1381@storefull-617.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Mark Pulver 's message of Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:51:06 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <6wWN3.A.8-E.bh_H7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Mark, Thanks for the reply. James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 19:33:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24322; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:29:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:29:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Damon Langlois (Electrix)" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey loopers, Electrix is not going out of business. We were put in a tight spot by slow sales, too much inventory and the delay of Repeater. What can I say, we needed to turn the inventory into cash. Our entire US inventory of FilterFactory, WarpFactory, Mo-FX, FilterQueen and EQKillers was sold to Guitar Center and Musicians Friend for well below cost. Unfortunately these products will not go into production again but in the mean time it's an amazing deal for you. Take advantage of it while you can. Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon... Respect, Damon Langlois Creative Director Electrix Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 http://www.electrixpro.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 19:43:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24648; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:41:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:41:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:40:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2001 23:40:35.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F8E2460:01C0EFAB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks Damon! Best of luck. Hope all works out for the best. Pete. >From: "Damon Langlois (Electrix)" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: RE: Electrix >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:03 -0700 > >Hey loopers, >Electrix is not going out of business. >We were put in a tight spot by slow sales, too much inventory and the delay >of Repeater. What can I say, we needed to turn the inventory into cash. Our >entire US inventory of FilterFactory, WarpFactory, Mo-FX, FilterQueen and >EQKillers was sold to Guitar Center and Musicians Friend for well below >cost. Unfortunately these products will not go into production again but in >the mean time it's an amazing deal for you. Take advantage of it while you >can. >Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with >Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon... > >Respect, > >Damon Langlois >Creative Director >Electrix >Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 >http://www.electrixpro.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 19:59:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25176; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:57:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:57:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Newbie multiple loop playing question.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:53:48 -0600 Message-ID: <7EA28D95D44E3C4797E6B39AC751E92803DE2E@hit01.handelit.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie multiple loop playing question.... Thread-Index: AcDvqykL988aw0I9TsGZhD0txrVC+AAAObqg From: "Jess M. Askey" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id TAA25134 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Im a guitar player and Im thinking of buying my first looping device after listening to Phish for a bit. I have looked at the specs, reviews and harmony central comments for the DL-4, Boomerang, the Echoplex and the forthcoming Repeater. One thing that I really thought I heard in a Trey solo was two separate loops playing at once. They were not overdubs as they had a different loop time it seemed. Now, everything I seem to read is that Trey used a Boomerang but maybe is now using the Echoplex. >From what I read in the manuals, nothing can play multiple loops at the same time except for the Echoplex? Im not sure if Im confused or maybe I mis-heard the recording? Can anyone fill me in on the details. I would be bummed if I bought something and then was let down.. :-( Im pretty rural so I can't drive down to a local store and try one out either. :-( :-( thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 20:38:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27305; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:36:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:36:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010607203453.007cd240@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 20:34:53 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Newbie multiple loop playing question.... In-Reply-To: <7EA28D95D44E3C4797E6B39AC751E92803DE2E@hit01.handelit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm not sure if this is still the case, but Trey was using TWO Boomerangs, or possibly three. (I'm positive it was at least two, but at the moment I can't find the magazine that had the layout of his stage setup...) Multiple loops are easy with multiple loopers! -t At 05:53 PM 6/7/01 -0600, Jess wrote: >One thing that I really thought I heard in a >Trey solo was two separate loops playing at once. They were not overdubs >as they had a different loop time it seemed. Now, everything I seem to >read is that Trey used a Boomerang but maybe is now using the Echoplex. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 7 23:57:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01145; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:54:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:54:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <66.ff66bb8.2851a61e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:53:02 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_66.ff66bb8.2851a61e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_66.ff66bb8.2851a61e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/01 7:29:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Damon@Electrixpro.com writes: > Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with > Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon... > oh you tease!.....michael --part1_66.ff66bb8.2851a61e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/01 7:29:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Damon@Electrixpro.com writes:


Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with
Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon...


oh you tease!.....michael --part1_66.ff66bb8.2851a61e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 00:02:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02698; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:59:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:59:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c0efcf$91f20540$809a8bac@0017470167> From: "Q" To: References: <66.ff66bb8.2851a61e@aol.com> Subject: buying Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:00:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0EFA5.A85BBA80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0EFA5.A85BBA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, I was just wondering where some good places would be to get myself = an oberheim digital echoplex pro...I don't know where to even begin to = search! Any help would be needed, thanks -Andy ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0EFA5.A85BBA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey, I was just wondering where some = good places=20 would be to get myself an oberheim digital echoplex pro...I don't know = where to=20 even begin to search! Any help would be needed, thanks
 
-Andy
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0EFA5.A85BBA80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 00:07:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03252; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:05:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:05:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B204F5A.6CE4CE3F@minds-eye.org> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:06:50 -0700 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loop Subject: OT: Digitech 20/20 multi-play delay for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <69plJC.A.ly.z6EI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, For those of you who have any cash left after the Electrix frenzy, I have a Digitech Multi-Play 20/20 2 second delay pedal for sale. This is a great pedal with two foot pedals, one on/off and one for sample and hold. Perhaps best of all, you can change the delay time with the twist of a knob for those great pitch shifting sounds. The pedal also has a chorus/flanger effect that can be used alone or with the delay for some nice strange sounds. This has been a great pedal but I now have too many things on the floor so I'd prefer this pedal find an appreciative home where it will get used. Asking price is $50 US plus shipping for a nice 2 second looper. Thanks Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 00:30:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03954; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:29:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:29:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010608042856.54859.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: buying To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000b01c0efcf$91f20540$809a8bac@0017470167> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sweetwater Sound carries them.... http://www.sweetwater.com/store/results.tpl?action=full&cart=9919736615359460&--eqskudatarq=Echoplex&Criteria=Results John --- Q wrote: > hey, I was just wondering where some good places > would be to get myself an oberheim digital echoplex > pro...I don't know where to even begin to search! > Any help would be needed, thanks > > -Andy > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 00:30:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03949; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:28:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:28:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [198.81.17.47] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Warning! Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 04:27:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 04:27:58.0347 (UTC) FILETIME=[65534DB0:01C0EFD3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

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>From: "Peter Underwood"
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>Subject: Re: Warning!
>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:12:30 -0700
>
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 01:57:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06730; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:54:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:54:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4CA9@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: buying Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:54:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0EFDF.6BAB5570" Resent-Message-ID: <8w93P.A.8oB.8hGI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EFDF.6BAB5570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" this was posted to the list a few days ago: Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty getting a 'plex in the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top sales guy for Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as Gil, the sales guy in the Simpson's. Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Q [mailto:qslicer@pionet.net] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:01 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: buying hey, I was just wondering where some good places would be to get myself an oberheim digital echoplex pro...I don't know where to even begin to search! Any help would be needed, thanks -Andy ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EFDF.6BAB5570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
this was posted to the list a few days ago:

Thanks for that dt, and if anyone is having difficulty getting a 'plex in

the US, please contact gil.pini@gibson.com. He is our top sales guy for

Echoplex and Trace products and nowhere near as desperate as Gil, the sales

guy in the Simpson's.

 

Denis

Denis Taaffe

denis_aliengr@geocities.com

http://www.dtguitar.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Q [mailto:qslicer@pionet.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:01 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: buying

hey, I was just wondering where some good places would be to get myself an oberheim digital echoplex pro...I don't know where to even begin to search! Any help would be needed, thanks
 
-Andy
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0EFDF.6BAB5570-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 04:47:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11750; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:43:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:43:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:42:11 EDT Subject: Re: London Jazz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > I have been walking by the occasional poster in London - while continuing to > look for work - and see a number of things advertising "Live Jazz". I feel > like I should find out just WHAT they think of as "Jazz" here -- is it "free > form improvisation"? or more a situation for guitarists like "non-Les Paul > clones need not apply".? > Hi Stephen Most UK jazz fans seem to like it unadventurous, so probably your posters are refering what I would call "pub jazz". ( Les Paul might be a bit too advanced) OR maybe jazz-funk type stuff . "free form improvisation" is more likely to be found at specialist venues. (Jazz Cafe) if your looking for free-form-imp in London then I don't think you'd generally find it under the 'jazz' label. try 'wire' magazine. there's definately an improv scene (including loops), but this is reputedly quite hard to break into if your ideas don't match exactly andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 04:54:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11992; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:51:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:51:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c0eff8$31f48450$51cec22b@cambmaya04> From: "Os" To: References: Subject: Re: London Jazz Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:51:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Most UK jazz fans seem to like it unadventurous, so > probably your posters are refering what I would call "pub jazz". > ( Les Paul might be a bit too advanced) I tend to call it "wanker jazz". Safe jazz-funk to establish a mood of eighties prosperity in a pub/wine-bar. > there's definately an improv scene (including loops), but this > is reputedly quite hard to break into if your ideas don't match > exactly indeed. :( os. os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 09:10:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19275; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:04:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:04:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010608130353.8204.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:03:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Martin Subject: Re: Newbie multiple loop playing question.... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The magazine was a summer 2000 issue of Guitar Player (I'm at work, so I can't look up the exact month). Trey uses a Boomerang and an old Ibanez rackmount delay in his guitar rig, and an additional Boomerang for his synth setup. >I'm not sure if this is still the case, but Trey was >using TWO Boomerangs, >or possibly three. (I'm positive it was at least two, >but at the moment I >can't find the magazine that had the layout of his >stage setup...) >Multiple loops are easy with multiple loopers!-t At 05:53 PM 6/7/01 -0600, Jess wrote: >One thing that I really thought I heard in a >Trey solo was two separate loops playing at once. They were not overdubs >as they had a different loop time it seemed. Now, everything I seem to >read is that Trey used a Boomerang but maybe is now using the Echoplex. ===== And if it's up to us to bring some balance back Let it not be said it's courage that we lack -Gaia Consort, "Cry Freedom" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 10:12:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21436; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:10:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:10:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRoSJQ/GEpv/zuI9VoKCYufpcZROAIUSvBYl8ReN4+cldDJf+mkgInjd5s= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:10:01 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP Message-ID: <13118-3B20DCB9-42@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Andy Ewen 's message of Thu, 24 May 2001 03:33:42 -0500 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi andy; i was getting antsy and i just thought ide give a call to see if you have any more of a prospective date on when you might be getting the echoplex units in that will enable you to send one out to me.i know when we last spoke you were waiting and there was a gentleman on line(one of your associates) before me.i dont wnt to be a bother im just excited.Thanks andy,Joe Keller From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:10:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27897; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:06:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:06:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1C4@kes.camcare.com> From: "Wegmann, Greg" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: HELP Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:08:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Sweetwater Sound has them in stock. I just purchased last Wednesday. It's an wonderful unit. Weg -----Original Message----- From: ko-jella@webtv.net [mailto:ko-jella@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP hi andy; i was getting antsy and i just thought ide give a call to see if you have any more of a prospective date on when you might be getting the echoplex units in that will enable you to send one out to me.i know when we last spoke you were waiting and there was a gentleman on line(one of your associates) before me.i dont wnt to be a bother im just excited.Thanks andy,Joe Keller From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:13:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28314; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:10:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:10:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PRCamann@aol.com Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:09:51 EDT Subject: Electrix products at Musician's Friend To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: <3uULM.A.H5G.3jPI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Since the availability date of the Warp Factory I have on order at Musician's Friend changed from 6-10 to 7-15, should I take alternate measures to obtain a Warp Factory at blowout (or near blowout) prices, or should I sit tight and wait for the order to come through? I'm in no hurry, I just want to take advantage of any breaks I can. Is Musician's Friend in fact going to receive more stock, or is this just another Alesis airSynth blow-smoke-up-the-buyer's-butt ploy on their part? Electrix folks, this one's for you... Paul Camann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:16:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28519; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:15:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:15:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAxwjihJLIvGI9SCCq/SEy5mCh7YoCFQDIau5LIX6xkJ3zBEArdYS4ghXMjQ== From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:14:37 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP Message-ID: <20483-3B20F9ED-605@storefull-241.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Wegmann, Greg" 's message of Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:08:06 -0400 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks alot.ill check them out. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:19:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28886; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:17:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:17:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.189.148.4] From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix products at Musician's Friend Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 09:16:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 16:16:39.0002 (UTC) FILETIME=[659C5BA0:01C0F036] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you can go to a guitar center (if there's one near you) and have them order the unit from another store that has them in stock (and no shipping fees). This is what I did and I expect to see mine early next week. Also, American Musical Supply listed the Warp Facory for $89 a day or so ago. Might want to check them out as well www.americanmusical.com Kevin >From: PRCamann@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Electrix products at Musician's Friend >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:09:51 EDT > >Since the availability date of the Warp Factory I have on order at >Musician's Friend changed from 6-10 to 7-15, should I take alternate >measures to obtain a Warp Factory at blowout (or near blowout) prices, or >should I sit tight and wait for the order to come through? I'm in no >hurry, I just want to take advantage of any breaks I can. > >Is Musician's Friend in fact going to receive more stock, or is this just >another Alesis airSynth blow-smoke-up-the-buyer's-butt ploy on their part? > >Electrix folks, this one's for you... > >Paul Camann > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 12:42:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30174; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:39:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:39:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAg/JM+p2lq0jACpuKj9fNUiiHhLICFGhsDnxyLECLCfyQUExdm/2kzwsA From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:39:07 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: buying Message-ID: <4043-3B20FFAB-572@storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Q" 's message of Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:00:33 -0500 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Andy, The most reliable retailer I have found for looping devices is BANANAS AT LARGE. Personally, I have worked with Nils - I am guessing he is still there. There web site has been down for a while - but you might be able to get contact info if you go there. Sorry, I do not have their URL. Otherwise, I know that Sweetwater is carrying the Gibson (formerly "Oberheim") Echoplex. If you call them you might ask for David Klausner. Good Luck, James Hines From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 14:32:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02567; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:29:00 EDT Subject: AKASH - GIG ALERT: SUN, JUNE 10, 8PM+ TONS of MP3's. To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <9b.16376661.2852736c@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey GUys, We have almost for the most part (except - minus 3 tracks), added the entire BODY WORSHIP Album online which can be accessed at/clicked to/thru our main website: www.akashmusic.com The Tracks "Do it on TV", "Golden Rainbows", "Pillow Talk", "Court Marshall" and "Forward March 2 Starlust Moistened, Part VII", all feature 2 Line 6 DL4's & 2 GT-3's using delay-decay based loops driven by 2 GR-30's and a jv1010 and an asr10, plus a slew of other samples from individual musicians of AKASH (SP202 is used a lot too)...its all rehashed and spun into a mix with other samples taken from other various sources...SO, GO & CK IT ALL OUT :) AKASH is also looking at starting/developing/nurturing a monthly "Perv-Performance Series", at The Shubin Theatre which features not only AKASH but other folks within and from our Loopey-Turntablist-Performing-Travelling-Community which is most likely a lot of folks present here on the LD list. (The Shubin is a very small but intimate venue which holds approx 50 persons; the acoustics are incredible and the venue has a very positive vibe but the owner lives above it; volume can't get too outta hand, we keep our volume levels very, very subdued and have never had a problem). But Please do E-Mail us if you are local and or going to be passing thru Philly in Mid-Late August 2001. & hopefully we can share gigs like this vice versa in your town too :) Soooooooo... "GET INTO BODY WORSHIP NOW" www.akashmusic.com (& if u don't already know bout dis here...) AKASH, LIVE @ THE SHUBIN THEATRE! THE SHUBIN IS LOCATED IN DWNTWN PHILLY ON BAINBRIDGE STREET BETWEEN 4th & 5th Streets but closer to 4th ( ZIP CODE is 19147) as The Shubin Theatre is located one block behind South Street. DATES: TIMES: ETC... SUNDAY, JUNE 10th, Doors Open @ 7PM, & DIG IT - AKASH STARTS @ 8PM SHARP! ADMISSION for AKASH is $5 bucks (cheap!) *AFTER PARTY @ FLUID WITH PSYDDE DELICIOUS' "FAST CHEAP AND OUT OF CONTROL" * GET $1.00 off $3.00 admission to FAST CHEAP AND OUT OF CONTROL www.fastcheapparty.com *Offer valid only if you arrive at FLUID before 11PM with an Invite from AKASH in hand. Also, the 1st. Ten People to show up @ The Shubin Theatre, will get a FREE copy of AKASH's DEBUT ALBUM "BODY WORSHIP" WE HOPE TO SEE ALL OF Y'ALL WHO CAN MAKE IT AT OUR SHOW :) "Remember To Always Kill Your Expectations" www.akashmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 14:32:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02560; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006d01c0f049$5a3d0080$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: Re: Electrix products at Musician's Friend Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:32:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I just got off the phone with them, and the impression I got was that if you placed your order during the time when the backorder date was 6-10-01, then you were going to get what you ordered, and if you ordered after the date changed, you probably have to wait because the 6-10 batch was sold out. Please though, if you've ordered with Musician's Friend, call and check it out and let us know what they said to you. I've gotten entirely different answers from different customer service calls before to just about any place, so to be scientific about this I think it's important that as many of us say what we heard as possible. The news does sound good for those of us who ordered before the backorder date changed, and I wish the best of luck to us all in any case. also, for those curious, this is what the site says now: eq killer delayed until 6-10 filter factory delayed until 7-15 mo-fx delayed until 8-15 warp factory delayed until 7-15 Jon, who is very anxious to know whether he's missed his only shot at getting these magic boxes or not > Since the availability date of the Warp Factory I have on order at Musician's Friend changed from 6-10 to 7-15, should I take alternate measures to obtain a Warp Factory at blowout (or near blowout) prices, or should I sit tight and wait for the order to come through? I'm in no hurry, I just want to take advantage of any breaks I can. > > Is Musician's Friend in fact going to receive more stock, or is this just another Alesis airSynth blow-smoke-up-the-buyer's-butt ploy on their part? > > Electrix folks, this one's for you... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 16:26:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07020; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:22:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:22:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:21:35 -0500 Subject: Pro tools free From: Mike Feeney To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello all, I've installed PTF on my mac at work, as I work in marketing and we will be doing some editing of radio commercials, etc. I'm having a hard time getting started with the software... I'm just not familiar with it. I've used other recording apps for the PC. Anyone know of somewhere (web site, etc.) that has some intro to Pro Tools? Thanks... Mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 16:52:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07619; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:44:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:44:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:35:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Pro tools free Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <81tOvB.A.02B.UkTI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I found the PTF pdf manual that comes with it pretty informative, and if i remember correctly, there is a demo session available for download at the website, too. I downloaded it, but never checked it out. also, at the digidesign website: http://www.digidesign.com go to 'support', the go to 'user conference'. There seem to be some really helpful folks there. good luck. rich > Hello all, > > I've installed PTF on my mac at work, as I work in marketing and we will >be doing some editing of radio commercials, etc. I'm having a hard time >getting started with the software... I'm just not familiar with it. I've >used other recording apps for the PC. Anyone know of somewhere (web site, >etc.) that has some intro to Pro Tools? Thanks... > > Mike > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:14:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09234; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:09:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:09:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010608122745.00997db0@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:32:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Heasley Subject: Re: buying In-Reply-To: <4043-3B20FFAB-572@storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <"Q" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 09:39 AM 6/8/01 , you wrote: >Dear Andy, > The most reliable retailer I have found for looping devices is >BANANAS AT LARGE. Personally, I have worked with Nils - I am guessing he >is still there. I just bought one there. Don't know about Nils, but Rik Elswit is a rather loopy fellow that could take care of you (thought he said he was on this list). - Tom Heasley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:14:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09233; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:09:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:09:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010608123338.009a0a40@martina.pobox.stanford.edu> X-Sender: martina@martina.pobox.stanford.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:35:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Heasley Subject: Fwd: CD Release Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Hi all, > >Pardon me if this appears twice on the list - won't bore you with the >details. I am a composer/performer who processes and loops the tuba (and >didjeridu, conch and voice). Shortly after buying a DL4 last year, I >began doing solo concerts of my own music. I also use a Lexicon MPX1, a >t.c. D-TWO, and I just bought an EDP, all of which goes through my >p.a./1202VLZ/AMT clip-on mic. I went into Robert Rich's Soundscape Studio >earlier this year and recorded my first solo cd, 'Where the Earth Meets >the Sky', (engineered and mastered by R. Rich) which was just released by >Hypnos Recordings (www.hypnos.com). > >For anyone in the bay area, I have two live shows coming up: > >Saturday, June 9, 2001 >8:15, 9:15, 10:15 >Jazz at the Aquarium >Monterey Bay Aquarium >Tickets $50. > >and for FREE: > >Saturday 'afternoon', June 16, 2001 >somewhere in downtown Berkeley >Berkeley Arts Festival Music Circus > >Anyone interested in details could email me off-list. > >I will send a copy of my cd to each of the first two people from this list >to ask for one. > >Best, > >Tom Heasley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:34:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10107; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:29:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:29:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002f01c0f062$636b1fc0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:31:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members running this on a PC with success? Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:34:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10108; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:29:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:29:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B214379.1801A9BD@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:28:26 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: midi to tap? Is there a way to synch a vortex via midi? References: <4043-3B20FFAB-572@storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7iVoeB.A.vdC.HOUI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey gang. A few months ago I purchased a Vortex. I do love it so. During the Electrix blowout, I also got a mo-fx. Much tamer, but the midi synch is VERY convenient. I got to thinking... does anyone know of a device that can take a midi clock and turn it into a momentary switch signal? Doesn't seem like it would be too hard. It sure would make my day. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:38:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10321; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:33:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:33:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004b01c0f062$ff2749c0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <4043-3B20FFAB-572@storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net> <3B214379.1801A9BD@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: midi to tap? Is there a way to synch a vortex via midi? Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:35:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Search the archives- this sounds like a topic that may have been discussed previously- I would also be interested as a Vortex and future MoFx owner... Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: midi to tap? Is there a way to synch a vortex via midi? > > Hey gang. > > A few months ago I purchased a Vortex. I do love it so. During the > Electrix blowout, I also got a mo-fx. Much tamer, but the midi synch is > VERY convenient. I got to thinking... does anyone know of a device that > can take a midi clock and turn it into a momentary switch signal? Doesn't > seem like it would be too hard. It sure would make my day. > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:48:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10931; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:46:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:46:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c0f064$4397edc0$2101a8c0@urso> From: "Daniel Pezzotti" To: References: <002f01c0f062$636b1fc0$7bb387d8@cliff> Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:44:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <2gDbb.A.mqC.6dUI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yes.....no problem here on a PC...running and running......... Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "MediaOne" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:31 PM Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members running this on a PC with success? Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 17:55:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11155; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:54:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:54:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:53:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Pro tools free From: Mike Feeney To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , Daniel Pezzotti , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000f01c0f064$4397edc0$2101a8c0@urso> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_jb22C.A.ytC.plUI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It runs fine on my PC also, but again, I haven't figured out how to use it just yet... ;) I'll dig up the pdf manual soon and read up. Thanks for that tip, rich.... thanks eberbody. mike on 6/8/01 4.44 PM, Daniel Pezzotti at daniel.pezzotti@span.ch wrote: > yes.....no problem here on a PC...running and running......... > > Daniel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MediaOne" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:31 PM > Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free > > > I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members > running this on a PC with success? Cliff > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 18:10:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12702; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:05:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:05:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 00:02:55 +0200 Subject: Re: Electrix From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <158UNI-0fRz5UC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id SAA12666 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmmm...? The whole electrix topics/rumours of last time seems to be an idiosyncratic idom. Most comments seems to yell,that Electrix is knocked out of buisiness. Older devices are blown out,so that customers must have the suspicon,that Electrix is on the path of agony. I don´t know,how strong the buisiness resources are for Electrix. Electrix offers products,wich are quiet amazing,but other producers have also nice machines. The market for such products is very small,so Electrix is binded at the marketrules,like every other company also. Electrix does not manufacture Mass Products.Especialy nowadays,where new devices and technology rain down to us. It makes then no sense,to fill up the stores with devices,wich will be tomorrow out.So the seemingly "Blow out" is only a regulation of the market. To develop such fine devices,it needs a lot of blood,sweat and tears and a time.The selling process is very short time related things.So no need to make a big stock of this devices. Remember the ATARI history..... For a small company-like Electrix(traced to relation to the Gibson BigBrother)- it needs such a strategy.Also the blow out of older products... electrix has decided to ship the repeater then,when it works acceptable for the customer. They will not release a product,where the customer is a Beta-Tester and Updates will follow sequently by the responses of the customers. So please be patient,give Electrix time to offer an astounding product.Patience is one mark,wich I miss so much in this topic. To burry sonething,before it had seen the light,makes no sense. Marty ---------- >Von: "Pete Mundt" >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: RE: Electrix >Datum: Fre, 8. Jun 2001 1:40 Uhr > >Thanks Damon! Best of luck. Hope all works out for the best. >Pete. > > >>From: "Damon Langlois (Electrix)" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>Subject: RE: Electrix >>Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:29:03 -0700 >> >>Hey loopers, >>Electrix is not going out of business. >>We were put in a tight spot by slow sales, too much inventory and the delay >>of Repeater. What can I say, we needed to turn the inventory into cash. Our >>entire US inventory of FilterFactory, WarpFactory, Mo-FX, FilterQueen and >>EQKillers was sold to Guitar Center and Musicians Friend for well below >>cost. Unfortunately these products will not go into production again but in >>the mean time it's an amazing deal for you. Take advantage of it while you >>can. >>Our focus has turned to the world of loop based recording, starting with >>Repeater... Yes it's comming very soon... >> >>Respect, >> >>Damon Langlois >>Creative Director >>Electrix >>Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 >>http://www.electrixpro.com >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 18:26:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13128; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:22:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:22:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B21417E.12F21582@sigecom.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:19:59 -0400 From: Scott Winzinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Alto Music phone number needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I lost the phone number for Alto music. Can anyone mail it to me? Zing@sigecom.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 18:59:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13759; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:47:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:47:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007e01c0f06d$075534e0$7dde6420@vaio> Reply-To: "Kevin Goldsmith" From: "Kevin Goldsmith" To: References: <002f01c0f062$636b1fc0$7bb387d8@cliff> Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:47:40 -0700 Organization: Unit Circle Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 22:45:01.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[A731B200:01C0F06C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been running it ok on my PC, but it has a tendency to start stuttering audio after a while of using it forcing me to close and re-open it... Kevin Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "MediaOne" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free > I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members > running this on a PC with success? Cliff > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 18:59:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14111; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:53:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:53:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: <78.15ff532f.2852b136@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:52:38 EDT Subject: Re: buying To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_78.15ff532f.2852b136_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_78.15ff532f.2852b136_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check Alto Music 845 692 6922-Good luck --part1_78.15ff532f.2852b136_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check Alto Music 845 692 6922-Good luck --part1_78.15ff532f.2852b136_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 19:01:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13930; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:49:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:49:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: <3e.cd7791e.2852b04c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:48:44 EDT Subject: Re: Alto Music phone number needed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3e.cd7791e.2852b04c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_3e.cd7791e.2852b04c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 845 692 6922 --part1_3e.cd7791e.2852b04c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 845 692 6922 --part1_3e.cd7791e.2852b04c_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 19:46:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16233; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:45:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:45:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:44:08 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a5.16d08f60.2852bd48_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_a5.16d08f60.2852bd48_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway. I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion about the use of this complex unit. Many people were waiting for the EDP's, when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting to this board lately. Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life using the EDP. True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. saving loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro. Regards, Paul --part1_a5.16d08f60.2852bd48_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway.
I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion
about the use of this complex unit. Many people were waiting for the EDP's,
when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace
Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on
various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting
to this board lately.

Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life using
the EDP.

True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. saving
loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best
currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro.

Regards, Paul --part1_a5.16d08f60.2852bd48_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 19:52:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16354; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:48:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:48:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:46:43 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 23:46:44.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[46022740:01C0F075] Resent-Message-ID: <7Fb18D.A.T_D.DQWI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anybody know about the Alesis AirFX? I'm looking at it in a guitar center advertisement. All it says is that it has "tripped out, mind bending effects", but it could be a useful little box. Does anybody have any experience with this unit? Not that I'm going to go to guitar center, but if it's nice, I might get it elsewhere. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 20:09:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18028; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:07:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:07:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQhMiQ/h1hSv3a7Q8gdty6b4AYqLgIUWBUdVkxaA39d1t5O3L54/XyUauo= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:07:12 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix? PaulPokr@aol Message-ID: <25072-3B2168B0-693@storefull-613.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: PaulPokr@aol.com's message of Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:44:08 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Paul, I thing I understand the source of your confusion here. You seem to be labouring under the illusion that the purpose of acquiring new gear is to USE it after you have bought it. Were you a true gear junkie, you would realize that the point of acquiring new gear is NOT to use it - butrather to determine its limitations so that you can write critiques of it and THEN demand new gear without those limitations. Of course, if and when the new piece of gear does become available - the cycle starts all over again. It is such fun ! Unfortunately, a few naive people (like your self, perhaps ?) actually devote themselves to learning the intricacies of the gear they have and actually begin to enjoy making music with it. But what can we do with them ???? I hope this will alleviate your concerns. Sincerely, James Hines (recovering gear junkie) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 20:20:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18422; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:17:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:17:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:16:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, matt davignon wrote: > Does anybody know about the Alesis AirFX? I'm looking at it in a guitar > center advertisement. All it says is that it has "tripped out, mind bending > effects", but it could be a useful little box. Does anybody have any > experience with this unit? I'd forgotten I wrote a user review of this for harmony central until I went skimming their user review section for the AirFX, found one I agreed with and recognized my name at the bottom of that one. :) http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Alesis/airFX-01.html -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 20:20:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18531; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:19:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:19:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010608171551.023a86f0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:15:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com matt davignon (04:46 PM 06/08/01) wrote: >Does anybody know about the Alesis AirFX? I'm looking at it in a >guitar center advertisement. All it says is that it has "tripped out, >mind bending effects", but it could be a useful little box. Does >anybody have any experience with this unit? The Alesis website has a lot of info along with the manual. http://www.alesis.com/products/airfx/index.html In short, the box is an effects processor where the params of the various effects are controlled by the proximity of your hand/guitar neck/magic wand to the device. This is handled through an infra-red detector and responds on 3 axis'. Refer to the Program Chart on the page above to get an idea of what params are controllable on what effects. It's a preset unit (no user memories) with RCA IN/OUT jacks and no MIDI. The sound is good, the effects are fun, the unit responds well, and it's a neat addition to have around. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 20:20:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18529; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:18:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:18:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:17:28 EDT Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Alto Music has them for $149.99-Tell them its for the looper group-Speak to Jen-845 692 6922 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:03:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20532; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:00:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:00:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KILLINFO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:00:07 EDT Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 6/8/01 4:47:42 PM, mattdavignon@hotmail.com writes: >Does anybody have any experience with this unit? A little. I played with it at MF when the prototype came in. It's not as expressive as a theramin but it does have some interesting sounds (a la some of the weirder FX in Radiohead's "Kid A" etc). The musician's friend website has some sound samples up that don't quite do it justice. I think it'd be pretty fun for the occassional dash of sonic mayhem but it's a little harder to control than one might expect (IMOHO). With the Chapter 11 situation at Alesis one wonders if any more of them will ever see the light of day. TK From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:05:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20764; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:04:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:04:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KILLINFO@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.15f177c1.2852cfef@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:03:43 EDT Subject: Sorry ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 6/8/01 4:47:42 PM, mattdavignon@hotmail.com writes: >Does anybody know about the Alexis AirFX? Oops. I thought it said AirSynth. Pardon these 48 year old eyes and my very public senior moment. Ignore the previous post. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:06:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20930; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:05:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:05:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:04:41 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix? PaulPokr@aol To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e1.15d2ccfb.2852d029_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e1.15d2ccfb.2852d029_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Me not a gear junkie? Not so. Nothing makes me so happy as seeing the UPS man driving down the street. I buy hardware/software items and then sell them continuously on eBay. In fact, I bought a Boomerang and DL-4 after I already had an EDP. After I had the 'Rang for a while. I said, "what the hell am I going to do with this?" and sold it on eBay. Didn't seem much point in keeping it around after using it and comparing it to the EDP (with all due respect to the Boomerang). Never even used the DL-4 for looping, btw. Regards, Paul --part1_e1.15d2ccfb.2852d029_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Me not a gear junkie? Not so. Nothing makes me so happy as seeing the UPS man
driving down the street. I buy hardware/software items and then sell them
continuously on eBay. In fact, I bought a Boomerang and DL-4 after I already
had an EDP. After I had the 'Rang for a while. I said, "what the hell am I
going to do with this?" and sold it on eBay. Didn't seem much point in
keeping it around after using it and comparing it to the EDP (with all due
respect to the Boomerang). Never even used the DL-4 for looping, btw.

Regards, Paul --part1_e1.15d2ccfb.2852d029_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:07:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21167; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:06:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:06:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Headybeats@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:05:44 EDT Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 122 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Unsubscribe me!!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:12:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21508; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:11:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:11:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:10:37 EDT Subject: What the heck is Behringer doing? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f7.b19115c.2852d18d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_f7.b19115c.2852d18d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, lads: I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? Regards, Paul --part1_f7.b19115c.2852d18d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, lads:

I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist!
Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers,
compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their
gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid?

I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as
sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist
me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently).

This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment?
How can they possibly manufacture all those different products?

Regards, Paul --part1_f7.b19115c.2852d18d_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:18:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21822; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:16:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:16:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:14:55 EDT Subject: Re: Pro tools free To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c0.157d0779.2852d28f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_c0.157d0779.2852d28f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good luck! I had a Digi001/ProTools rig for a while (I recently sold it). There's the hardcopy manual that comes with ProTools that's pretty good but I never succeeded in finding anything else (and I did a lot of searching on the 'Net). DigiDesign really has their information sewed up tight. I guess they want the education bucks (like a lot of companies). Regards, Paul --part1_c0.157d0779.2852d28f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good luck! I had a Digi001/ProTools rig for a while (I recently sold it).
There's the hardcopy manual that comes with ProTools that's pretty good but I
never succeeded in finding anything else (and I did a lot of searching on the
'Net). DigiDesign really has their information sewed up tight. I guess they
want the education bucks (like a lot of companies).

Regards, Paul --part1_c0.157d0779.2852d28f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:20:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22075; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:18:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:18:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001501c0f093$9a0a5100$0300a8c0@txucom.net> Reply-To: "Tom Peirce Baker" From: "Tom Peirce Baker" To: References: Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:23:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F058.ED3F22A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F058.ED3F22A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Everything I have ever used by Behringer has been very solid. I don,t = know why they are priced the way they are, but I do have a theory as to = why on some of their digital based stuff. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: PaulPokr@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:10 PM Subject: What the heck is Behringer doing? Hey, lads:=20 I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. = Kee-rist!=20 Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, = speakers,=20 compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of = their=20 gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff = solid?=20 I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for = use as=20 sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, = assist=20 me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently).=20 This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their = equipment?=20 How can they possibly manufacture all those different products?=20 Regards, Paul=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F058.ED3F22A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Everything I have ever used by = Behringer has been=20 very solid. I don,t know why they are priced the way they are, but I do = have a=20 theory as to why on some of their digital based stuff.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 PaulPokr@aol.com=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 = 6:10 PM
Subject: What the heck is = Behringer=20 doing?

Hey, lads: =

I've=20 been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist!=20
Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, = speakers,=20
compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot = of their=20
gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff = solid?=20

I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller = mixers for=20 use as
sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to,=20 hopefully, assist
me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer = Plus=20 recently).

This company seems like they're on the roll. But = how good=20 is their equipment?
How can they possibly manufacture all those = different=20 products?

Regards, Paul = ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F058.ED3F22A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22354; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:22:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:22:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:21:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220072796==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: <4NYXh.A.GdF.roXI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220072796==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: PaulPokr@aol.com >I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! >Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, >compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their >gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? > >I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as >sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist >me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). > >This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? >How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. so I have been told. some of their products do look feature-similar to other offerings from companies like, say, Mackie. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. --============_-1220072796==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" From: PaulPokr@aol.com ArialI've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? Arial the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. so I have been told. some of their products do look feature-similar to other offerings from companies like, say, Mackie. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess <...... .....programmer's documentation <.................. --============_-1220072796==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:29:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22790; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:27:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:27:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <018f01c0f083$be3fad00$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:30:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com well, their official answer is "you make it possible. Large numbers of satisfied customers lead to large production quantities. Large production quantities lead to favorable purchasing conditions for components. And it's only fair that we pass these savings on to you. After all, we know that your success is our success." my understanding is that it's some kind of distribution issue, but i can't remember anything else about it. i know a few quite satisfied owners of Behringer equipment though, and sometimes wish i'd known about the prices on their 20 channel mixers before i plunked down the cash for my mackie 12/16 channel. the more i research the differences the less progress i make. just ask around as many lists as you can, i guess. the pricing could be temporary though, so if you can, take advantage. their glitch is your gain. Jon > Hey, lads: > > I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! > Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, > compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their > gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? > > I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as > sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist > me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). > > This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? > How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? > > Regards, Paul > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 21:42:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA23281; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:41:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:41:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B217E16.2F20A8E5@cloud9.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:38:30 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #284 References: <200106090120.VAA22144@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I don't know about their other gear, but they make a *fabulous* 1/4" patchbay. Sixty-some-odd dollars and worth every penny! Elby Hey, lads: I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? I like what I've seen of their mixers. I like their smaller mixers for use as sub-mixers. I recently purchased an UltraDyne Pro unit to, hopefully, assist me in mastering (I had to part with my Finalizer Plus recently). This company seems like they're on the roll. But how good is their equipment? How can they possibly manufacture all those different products? Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 22:35:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24983; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:33:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:33:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:34:17 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1220068415==_ma============" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1220068415==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: PaulPokr@aol.com >I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! >Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, >compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote: >the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of >other companies >to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by >similar products >from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over this. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1220068415==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: What the heck is Behringer doing?
From: PaulPokr@aol.com
I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist!
Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers,
compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company?

At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote:
the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies
to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products
from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie.

Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over this.
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--============_-1220068415==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 23:46:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA27247; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:44:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:44:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.101.230] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pro tools free Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:43:45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 03:43:45.0544 (UTC) FILETIME=[628B7080:01C0F096] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ah, yes Free Pro Tools... Do you have the required Hardware ? It's kinda useless without a Mix Board....

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To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"
Subject: Pro tools free
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:21:35 -0500
Hello all,
I've installed PTF on my mac at work, as I work in marketing and we will
be doing some editing of radio commercials, etc. I'm having a hard time
getting started with the software... I'm just not familiar with it. I've
used other recording apps for the PC. Anyone know of somewhere (web site,
etc.) that has some intro to Pro Tools? Thanks...
Mike
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 8 23:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA27301; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:46:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:46:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.101.230] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:45:29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 03:45:29.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0722650:01C0F096] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I love this company ! Use use the Behringer DX 1000 Pro Mixer in my Dj Setup ! Aand it's da BOMB !

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From: Richard Zvonar
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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing?
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:34:17 -0700
From: PaulPokr@aol.com
>I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available.
>Kee-rist!
>Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers,
>speakers,
>compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company?
At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote:
>the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of
>other companies
>to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by
>similar products
>from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie.
Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over this.
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 00:09:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA29017; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:08:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:08:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B21A0BB.B5B92B40@altruistmusic.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:06:19 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pro tools free References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Devious D_MasterMixer wrote: > > Ah, yes Free Pro Tools... Do you have the required Hardware ? PT Free runs native on a Mac/PC, and can use built-in i/o for sound. No external hardware required. > It's > kinda useless without a Mix Board.... It also supports full automation for internal mixdown, including "bounce-to-disk" digital mixes. --A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 04:54:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03688; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:52:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:52:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Johnderryneale@aol.com Message-ID: <103.47c812d.28533d78@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:51:04 EDT Subject: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_103.47c812d.28533d78_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 10503 Resent-Message-ID: <-oZdbD.A.W5.bOeI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_103.47c812d.28533d78_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe johnderryneale@aol.com thank you --part1_103.47c812d.28533d78_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe   johnderryneale@aol.com                                          
                                         
                                                             thank  you --part1_103.47c812d.28533d78_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 04:55:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03998; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:54:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:54:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0f0c1$8f3a7060$271828d5@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: "diatom drone" , References: <018f01c0f083$be3fad00$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:15:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com They tend to copy other company's designs thereby side stepping the R&D time and expense incurred by mackie et al. That's why they can keep their prices low. They've brought out a Pod look/sound alike now - anyone tried it? Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 05:32:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA05542; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 05:30:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 05:30:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.68] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: david@awdsf.com Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 Pro Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 09:29:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 09:29:49.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB098CD0:01C0F0C6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Yes, my good man, there is. > Email or tell your friends about ACID PRO, and
send them to
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677
for the boxed version or
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6676
for downloadable when
they are ready to buy.
>
> On the Sonic Foundry Online Store address form,
your friends will see a
field labeled "Referred By".  Tell them to put
your email address,
ldarthard@ameritech.net, in that field. Now that last part is crucial, since it will enable me to get a free "Loops For Acid" CD.


----Original Message Follows----
From: David Lieberman
Reply-To: David Lieberman
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Acid 3.0 Pro
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:33:30 -0700
Sorry to bother you. I saw your posting about Acid Pro 3.0 for $99.00. Is there a special URL for the offer?
Thanks!
Dave

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 06:02:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA07099; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 06:00:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 06:00:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <102.4578c27.28534d9c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 05:59:56 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I > I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! > Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, > compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? A lot of their > gear is priced really cheap (e.g. effects units). Is their stuff solid? > yes, very well made, and sound quality closer to pro than budget. ( with a couple of exceptions maybe) Only critism is that some of their newer stuff has a physical (not electrical) hum coming from the transformer. I'd particularly recommend the Modulizer, impressive range of FX including the bizarre (and tweakable), particularly if you have a MIDI foot controller. Has a very nice filter section. ..incredibly cheap andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 07:23:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09055; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 07:20:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 07:20:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c0f0d0$45483dc0$5d5776d5@pandora.be> From: "maninspace" To: References: <102.4578c27.28534d9c@aol.com> Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:38:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've got loads of Behringer stuff : a mixer, monitors, compressors, tube preamp, fx... They do the job very well, and I would never have such a decent home studio without Behringer, because they made it really affordable. I'm now thinking of buying a tube compressor or ultra dyne. Regarding the monitors : I've heard pro's saying they're better (flatter) than the Mackie's . I recently put a song recorded with a B mixer, compressor, tube, reverb, and monitors on my site at http://www.geocities.com/forimul/index.html . No loopy stuff, mind you, only a little loop at my start page. But if you'd like to hear what an amateur can do with that stuff, it's a good example. cheers, Jan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 08:21:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10348; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:19:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:19:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0f0de$6bde2360$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <002f01c0f062$636b1fc0$7bb387d8@cliff> Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:48:44 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Whatcha mean, 'free'? ----- Original Message ----- From: "MediaOne" To: Sent: 08 June 2001 22:31 PM Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free > I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members > running this on a PC with success? Cliff > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 10:48:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13319; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:45:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:45:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <9c.f2a0965.28538fc7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:42:15 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: >To burry sonething,before it had seen the light,makes no sense. unfortunately, that does seem to be the characteristic nature of scurrilous internet/viral gossip, as goes the consumer (ie, *us*)..... blurpst, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 10:57:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13747; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:55:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:55:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.16671567.285392ba@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:54:50 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 06/08/2001 7:45:36 PM, PaulPokr@aol.com writes: >Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway. for some very good (hopeful) reasons. >I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion >about the use of this complex unit. too busy *using* mine: dude! >Many people were waiting for the EDP's, >when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace >Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on >various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting >to this board lately. well, i love the EDP: love it: love it! gonna use a repeater, too. and a pcm42. >Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life >using the EDP. how? technically, i mean: above, you complained of the lack-of-discussion, re:EDP, soooooo: give us some tips! favorite functiosn, etc..... >True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. >saving loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best >currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro. right!, though 'best' is a funny word, here, as some folks get ***tons*** of functionality from less-featured looping instruments: important to know that, methinks. as a dedicated loop-head, though, i don't view these two instruments: EDP / Repeater: ---which are the only truly *freshly configured* feature-rich high-end realtime loopers, i'd say--- , as being pitted against each other, as their feature-sets are quite different: so far, i know that i gotta use the both of them. (pretty voracious of me, eh?) bleep, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 11:04:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15140; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:03:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:03:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.166bc036.28539478@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:02:16 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3f.166bc036.28539478_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_3f.166bc036.28539478_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? --part1_3f.166bc036.28539478_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? --part1_3f.166bc036.28539478_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 12:16:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17469; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:13:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:13:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010609091413.00b9a9b8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Files: The truth is out there. Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 09:16:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Subject: Re: Electrix In-Reply-To: <3f.166bc036.28539478@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No - I believe that 'splat' would be a more appropriate nickname. At 08:02 AM 6/9/2001, someone wrote: >Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 15:20:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21435; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:18:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:18:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [198.81.17.174] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 18:39:32 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 18:39:32.0888 (UTC) FILETIME=[86754980:01C0F113] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Yea Matt, I have one of them.  It has its own set of synth sounds in one section of setting.  I have it connected to one of the Korg electribes.  You can manipulate the sounds in varius ways using your hand or guitar neck or other body parts.  It's worth the money.  I was waiting for the air synth from alesis but I hear it's on hold for awhile. (I love toys) Come check it out if you're in Santa Cruz.  I've gotta get Miko over here to check out my new setup.  I grabbed some of the electric blowout stuff and need to see where I can fit it in.  good luck Papa Dave

papadave55@hotmail.com

 

>Does anybody know about the Alesis AirFX? I'm looking at it in a

>guitar
>center advertisement. All it says is that it has "tripped out, mind
>bending
>effects", but it could be a useful little box. Does anybody have any
>experience with this unit?
>
>Not that I'm going to go to guitar center, but if it's nice, I might
>get it
>elsewhere.
>
>Matt
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 17:15:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26031; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:13:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:13:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B221FA0.2B09D565@vtx.ch> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 13:07:44 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Alesis AirFX (what's it do?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Headybeats@cs.com wrote: > > Unsubscribe me!!!!!!! this is OT sorry From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:22:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30237; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:19:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:19:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Musician's Friend Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:17:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 23:17:51.0248 (UTC) FILETIME=[6774D100:01C0F13A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Beware! After seeing that the availability date for the Filter Factory had changed to 7-15, I called to check the status of my order to see if I was still on the list to get mine by the original date of 6-10. To my dismay, my order had been cancelled! Simply because the warehouse originally stocking the Filter Factory was out of stock, and that factory will no longer be stocking this product. The rep had no good reason as to why they just cancelled my order, but, supposedly he fixed the problem. No one contacted me about this cancellation! I would strongly recommend that if you have an order that was placed prior to any date change on their web site you call and check the status. The rep said he would upgrade my order to "priority back-order"??? This should get me my gear in the original time frame. I really don't care when I get my gear, I just want to get it, and had I not placed the call to double check my order, I would not be getting any gear! Please understand I am not bashing Musicians Friend, even though I probably could for other reasons, I just want to give anybody out there a heads up on what could be a unfortunate glitch in their system. Pete. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:34:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30635; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:33:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:33:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:34:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Got my EDP fixed From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200106082114.RAA09683@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3074960048_834550_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3074960048_834550_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Finally got someone to open up my EDP, and indeed there was a loose chip -- it was one of the CPU chips, I believe. So hopefully it's clear sailing from here. Thanks again Andy and others for your quick advice. P>S> No wonder knocking it with my fist worked so well! --MS_Mac_OE_3074960048_834550_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Got my EDP fixed Finally got someone to open up my EDP, and indeed there was = a loose chip -- it was one of the CPU chips, I believe.  So hopefully i= t's clear sailing from here.  Thanks again Andy and others for your qui= ck advice.
P>S> No wonder knocking it with my fist worked so well! --MS_Mac_OE_3074960048_834550_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:37:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30915; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:36:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:36:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000d01c0f13d$5057bc00$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: Subject: semi ot: ground hum? Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:38:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com has anyone experienced ground hum when using one of those a/b switches? the kind i mean is the a/v one from radio shack that has 2 video, L, R inputs and one video, L, R output with the A/B selector between them. basically i was trying to rig it so i could have either the audio out from my VCR or one of the analog outs on a SB live going into the "Aux" on my receiver. this isn't directly related to recording but i figured if i can fix this i can apply it to similar situations in a mixer. thanks for any help jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:45:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31231; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:43:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:43:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <8a.7d5d3ec.28540e7a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:42:50 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PaulPokr@aol.com writes: >Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? umm, unhh: no. whydya ask? blurt, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 19:46:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31475; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:45:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:45:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <57.174f18ed.28540eeb@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:44:43 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <9QWM9D.A.UrH.NUrI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sean_@mindspring.com writes: >No - I believe that 'splat' would be a more appropriate nickname. my kids call me 'dodar', or daoud. my friend craig calls me 'stinky'. robby calls me sumthin' else. etc..... blap, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 21:36:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02820; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:34:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:34:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.68] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: spgoodman@earthlight.net, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:33:24 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 01:33:25.0050 (UTC) FILETIME=[579481A0:01C0F14D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Yea, I get the "Blue Screen Of Death", "The Blue Light Special", all that Jazz. What's wrong with it ?

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From: "Stephen P. Goodman"
Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman"
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:48:44 +0100
Whatcha mean, 'free'?
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From: "MediaOne"
To:
Sent: 08 June 2001 22:31 PM
Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free
> I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list
members
> running this on a PC with success? Cliff
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 21:46:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03188; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:44:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:44:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.97.68] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:43:43 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 01:43:43.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[C84F57C0:01C0F14E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Yes, BeHringer is the Gemini of the 2000's. Remember Gemini (back in the day, they were the company that an aspiring street Dj, could buy "affordable" Dj equipment.). They came out with the first Mixer with a 8 second sampler, for under 300.00 bucks ($299.99 to be exact). They were the first to come out with Quartz Lock Turntables for less than $200.00. Needless to say, the mixer ended up bleeding like a hemophilliac in a razor blade factory, and the turntables dragged like your Gramma Lucy, with the piles, but we did not care back then (early 90's, so we were still learning the business). So I say "Go Behringer !". Now I have a Behringer DX 1000 mixer, and it's the bee's knees ! It's ultra quiet, which is very good, since I have it hooked up to my PC ( I do PC mixing, with PCDj RED and the Numark DMC-1), but that is another matter.Now, I paid about 260.00 bucks for this mixer from Sam Ash, and I think I got a darn good deal, for a darn good piece of equipment !

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From: "maninspace"
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To:
Subject: Re: Behringer
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:38:06 +0200
I've got loads of Behringer stuff : a mixer, monitors, compressors, tube
preamp, fx...
They do the job very well, and I would never have such a decent home studio
without Behringer, because they made it really affordable. I'm now
thinking of buying a tube compressor or ultra dyne.
Regarding the monitors : I've heard pro's saying they're better (flatter)
than the Mackie's .
I recently put a song recorded with a B mixer, compressor, tube, reverb, and
monitors on my site at http://www.geocities.com/forimul/index.html . No
loopy stuff, mind you, only a little loop at my start page. But if you'd
like to hear what an amateur can do with that stuff, it's a good example.
cheers,
Jan

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 22:22:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04836; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:20:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:20:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: From: "Mike Feeney" To: Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:20:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0F129.F85447C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0F129.F85447C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? The reason I love this list: I was just today ready to order a Behringer 20-channel mixer and hesitated at the last minute because a friend recommended I go with Mackie. And magically this thread pops up. =) Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the Behringer. =) Mike -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: PaulPokr@aol.com I've been seeing more and more Behringer equipment available. Kee-rist! Microphones, numerous effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, speakers, compressors, etc., etc. What's the story with this company? At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote: the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over this. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0F129.F85447C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: What the heck is Behringer doing?
 
 
    The reason I love this list:  I was = just today=20 ready to order a Behringer 20-channel mixer and hesitated at the last = minute=20 because a friend recommended I go with Mackie.  And magically this = thread=20 pops up.  =3D)  Well, I don't mind if they ripped = the designs=20 off from other companies as long as the equipment does the job, and = that's what=20 it looks like you guys are saying.  So I think I'll go with the=20 Behringer.  =3D)
 
    Mike<= /DIV>
 
 
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Subject: Re:=20 What the heck is Behringer doing?

From: PaulPokr@aol.com
I've been = seeing more=20 and more Behringer equipment available. = Kee-rist!
Microphones, numerous=20 effects/other boxes, amplifiers, mixers, = speakers,
compressors, etc.,=20 etc. What's the story with this company?

At 9:21 PM -0400 6/8/01, Tom Ritchford wrote:
the story = I have been=20 told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other=20 companies
to produce = their=20 products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar=20 products
from the = engineers of=20 other companies like, say, Mackie.

Both Mackie and Aphex have successfully sued Behringer over=20 this.
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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0F129.F85447C0-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 9 22:22:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04994; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:20:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:20:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: From: "Mike Feeney" To: "Stephen P. Goodman" , Subject: RE: Re: Pro tools free Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:21:08 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c0f154$02080200$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000201c0f0de$6bde2360$0201a8c0@stephen> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <1AYAd.A.6LB.ultI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com they released a free version of it... called, funny enough, "pro tools free." =) mike -----Original Message----- From: Stephen P. Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 6:49 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Pro tools free Whatcha mean, 'free'? ----- Original Message ----- From: "MediaOne" To: Sent: 08 June 2001 22:31 PM Subject: OT: Re: Pro tools free > I installed this on my PC and it freezes on startup- any other list members > running this on a PC with success? Cliff > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 01:00:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09551; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:58:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:58:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:55:15 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1219973325==_ma============" References: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1H5M0D.A.-UC.x4vI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1219973325==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: > >Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other >companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it >looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the >Behringer. =) It's all a matter of personal ethics. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1219973325==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" RE: What the heck is Behringer doing?
At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote:
 
Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it looks like you guys are saying.  So I think I'll go with the Behringer.  =)

It's all a matter of personal ethics.

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--============_-1219973325==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 02:18:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13329; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:14:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:14:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAsp76xlc/mEOO+UCENr1izNDvoh4CFQCuVyIIMZi+9/cXwzdpzWxrbydYpA== From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:13:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe Message-ID: <20441-3B231025-4066@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Johnderryneale@aol.com's message of Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:51:04 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com unsubscribe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 02:20:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13690; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:18:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:18:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.17] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:17:13 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 06:17:13.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD9CB5A0:01C0F174] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: Richard Zvonar >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:55:15 -0700 > >At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: >> >>Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other >>companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it >>looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the >>Behringer. =) ...but you must realize that all this "reverse engineering" yields some diminishing returns. Yes, the Behringer mixers resesemble the Mackie's that were "lifted" from, but, I have used both and found the Behringer pre-amps far inferior to Mackies'. Same with the AutoCom, which is a cool design...but a little watered down. Most of the stuff I have tried from Behringer, while certainly affordable (and you must give them points for that...putting out gear musicians can use at price musicians can afford) is not of the high quality it claims. This goes for their itsy bitsy lil mixers to their consoles to their monitors. And I don't even want to know about their version of the POD.... Personally, when I go shopping for gear, I get the best I can...not something to make do with. I want something I can use. That is true for Behringer stuff. I do not doubt that some of you are really happpy with their products, and are, no doubt, doing some wonderfully creative stuff with it...I am not trying to knock it at all. But let's not compare it to what it was ripped from. It is, per se, just a little less. But then again, I've heard folks with their full blown Mackie HD systems turn out some pretty insipid, life-less music, and some REALLY icredible, creative and breath-taking music come out beat up 4 tracks! It ain't the gear, but the person using it! Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 05:01:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA19700; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:59:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:59:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001001c0f18b$6641a460$d7b51597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:57:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <_u63gB.A.pzE.qbzI7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "max valentino" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 6:17 AM Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? > > > > >From: Richard Zvonar > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:55:15 -0700 > > > >At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: > >> > >>Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other > >>companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it > >>looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the > >>Behringer. =) > > ...but you must realize that all this "reverse engineering" yields some > diminishing returns. Yes, the Behringer mixers resesemble the Mackie's that > were "lifted" from, but, I have used both and found the Behringer pre-amps > far inferior to Mackies'. You did use some kind of spectral software to test this? I used and opened a mackie 1604 (not the last series) and my Behringer 2004, and, surprise, I found exactly the same pre-amp (as far as the electronic parts concern), and if they were only visually resembling the mackies, I don't think that mackie would sue them.Almost all the mixers look similar. But here in europe, where you can't seem to be able to find a mackie at a decent price (at least here in Italy, a 1604 has the list price of 1500$, 3000000 italian liras, the street price is almost 800 $ or 900 $; for a used Mackie 32/8 here you're going to pay almost 4000$, twice the price you have to pay for a NEW Behringer MX8000 or a Behringer 3208), to find some equipment that has the same quality at the price it should have is not that bad. As for the Autocom, I buy many magazines regarding recording studios (EQ,The Mix, etc), and I find that many studios use Behringer compressors (and I'm not talking about home or project studios, but even some high end studios, which use them together with higher end products, like Drawmers etc.). Working as a Recording engineer I have found that not always the priciest means the best. And that applies to many things sorrounding music. I tried a 25th anniversary BOSE cube system, which costed almost 6 or 7 times more than the normal one, A/B the anniversary and the normal ones in the same room, and I found them sounding 99% the same. But then I heard someone telling that the anniversary ones sounded better, as he was looking at the prices. That is all personal. I tend not to look at the price, but to listen the sound. Someone does it the other way. Bye - Luigi. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 08:35:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25538; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:34:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:34:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004a01c0f1a8$82d571c0$66effea9@oemcomputer> From: "become_1" To: References: Subject: Electrix Filter Factory Available. Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:24:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0F186.D3EB51A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 12:31:46.0678 (UTC) FILETIME=[50629960:01C0F1A9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0F186.D3EB51A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I picked up one of these little critters thursday to see if it would do = things for me, and I decided that it doesn't--or rather not things I = want done. So if anyone on the list is still looking for one, I'd be = happy to send it on to a new home. I'd like to get my cost out of it. =20 Contact me off-list if you're interested: become_1@email.msn.com Bruce ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0F186.D3EB51A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I picked up one of these little = critters=20 thursday to see if it would do things for me, and I decided that it = doesn't--or=20 rather not things I want done.  So if anyone on the list is = still=20 looking for one, I'd be happy to send it on to a new home.  = I'd like=20 to get my cost out of it. 
Contact me off-list if you're = interested:  become_1@email.msn.com<= /DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0F186.D3EB51A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 08:54:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25853; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:52:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:52:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001001c0f0e2$e8918560$c8ad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #220 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:51:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F0C1.617FE560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <74efUD.A.qTG._12I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F0C1.617FE560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #220 June 7, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Pyramid Peak, a German trio influenced by Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre and Klaus Schulze. The feature CD at midnight was Random Events on the Invisible Shadow label. Pyramid Peak = http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#jun PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 11:04 pm Paul Nagle Power Haus Blue Book (Neu Harmony) Syndromeda A New Start The Alien Abduction = Phenomenon (Groove/Neu Harmony) Green Isac Wasa Groundrush (Spotted = Peccary) Sola Translatio Lullaby for the Desert Mother Sunrise (Hypnos) Moon AirSculpture Shoarma Quark Soup (Neu = Harmony) Paul Nagle A Night at the Opera Red Book (Neu Harmony) Amongst Myselves Ra's Playground Still Life (RMC = Records) 12:00 am Pyramid Peak Gruga Park Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Secret Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Flow Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Distance Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Dreams Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Newsflash Random Events = (Invisible Shadows) 1:00 am * =3D exerpt VA =3D Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on the German = trio Pyramid Peak. The feature CD at midnight will be "Atmosphere" on = Torsten Kuhn's Invisible Shadows label. Bill billfox@fast.net = http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays = at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay = consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F0C1.617FE560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, = and space=20 music show, airs each Thursday
at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown = and=20 Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in
Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, = NJ.
 
          &nbs= p;        =20 Show=20 #220           &nb= sp;       =20 June 7, 2001.
 

RECAP:
On this show, I = began a=20 month-long focus on Pyramid Peak, a German trio
influenced by = Tangerine=20 Dream, Jean Michel Jarre and Klaus Schulze.  The
feature CD at = midnight=20 was Random Events on the Invisible Shadow label.
 
Pyramid=20 Peak        http://= wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#jun
 

PLAYLIST:
 
ARTIST         &nbs= p;       =20 TRACK           &n= bsp;       =20 ALBUM = (label)
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
11:04 pm
Paul=20 Nagle           &n= bsp; =20 Power=20 Haus           &nb= sp;  =20 Blue Book (Neu=20 Harmony)
Syndromeda        &nb= sp;    =20 A New=20 Start           &n= bsp; =20 The Alien Abduction=20 Phenomenon
          = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   =20 (Groove/Neu Harmony)
Green=20 Isac           &nb= sp; =20 Wasa           &nb= sp;        =20 Groundrush (Spotted Peccary)
Sola=20 Translatio         Lullaby for = the=20 Desert   Mother Sunrise=20 (Hypnos)
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;  =20 Moon
AirSculpture         = ;  =20 Shoarma           =       =20 Quark Soup (Neu Harmony)
Paul=20 Nagle           &n= bsp; =20 A Night at the Opera     Red Book (Neu = Harmony)
Amongst=20 Myselves        Ra's=20 Playground          Still = Life (RMC=20 Records)
 
12:00 am
Pyramid=20 Peak            = Gruga=20 Park           &nb= sp;  =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Secret           &= nbsp;      =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Flow           &nb= sp;        =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Distance           = ;     =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Dreams           &= nbsp;      =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Newsflash          &nbs= p;    =20 Random Events (Invisible Shadows)
 
1:00 am
 
 * =3D exerpt
VA =3D = Various Artists=20 (compilation)
 

NEXT SHOW:
On the next = EMUSIC, I'll=20 continue the month-long focus on the German trio
Pyramid Peak.  = The=20 feature CD at midnight will be "Atmosphere" on = Torsten
Kuhn's=20 Invisible Shadows label.
 
 
Bill         billfox@fast.net   &n= bsp;     =20 http://wdiyfm.org/sched= ule/s_emusic.html
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Host of EMUSIC, = an=20 electronic, ambient, and space music show.  Thursdays at
11 pm = on WDIY=20 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton=20 and
Phillipsburg.  Email me if you wish to submit music for = airplay=20 consideration.
Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org
Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~bi= llfox
To=20 subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send
email to: emusic-wdiy-subscri= be@yahoogroups.com
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0F0C1.617FE560-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 09:00:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA26120; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:58:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:58:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00e701c0f16f$89509f40$7be993c3@CBra981419> From: "Colin Bradley" To: "Dual" Subject: Noise Gate Presents... (london gig / exhibition) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:38:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello ...thought this may be of interest to some of the people around here... please check the Dual website for latest info and mp3's, they'll be a new album in July also, so look out for more live activity. We are looking to play further shows and if anyone would like to offer a gig please get in touch Colin www.dual.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Noise Gate Presents Atavistic Ratchets An Exhibition, 12 - 5pm, Free, kinetic sculpture, text, photographs, objects, film. Artists include, Pia Gambardella, Paddy Collins, Daniel James Newnham, Rob Flint, Philip Waterworth, Scott Hawkins, Cassette 41, David Clegg. Performances: 6 - 11pm £5 Lecture/Performance, electronics, songs, film projections, mime. Artists Richard Sanderson, David Ellis, Brown Sierra, Rev Richard Head & Scott Hawkins, Rob Flint, Dual, No! No! No!. Lewisham Arthouse, Saturday 16th June 01, 140 Lewisham way London SE4 6PD arthouse@dircon.co.uk info@dual.co.uk www.dual.co.uk brownsierra@hotmail.com www.noisegate.fws1.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ sorry if you receive this email more than once through various sources, sorry if your address was added to this list by mistake, it's not our intention to bombard you with more information than even we would want but if you would rather not receive this (ir)regular information please reply to this email with remove in the subject field. thanks you... Dual info@dual.co.uk www.dual.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 09:10:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27525; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:09:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:09:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <010701c0f1ae$d1d0cee0$582df7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: Subject: Bass Looping Tour of California! Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:11:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, The wonderful Rick Walker, Michael Manring and Myself are embarking on a bass looping festival tour of Northern California at the beginning of next month - it'd be great to see some of you at the following gigs... 5/7/2001 9pm The First Berkeley Bass Looping Festival , featuring Manring/Walker/Lawson trio, plus support TUVA Gallery, 3192 Adeline Street, Berkeley, CA. 6/7/2001 7pm The First Sacremento Bass Looping Festival, featuring Manring/Walker/Lawson trio, with Max Valentino supporting. Borders Books & Music 2339 Fair Oaks Boulevard Sacramento, CA 95825 7/7/2001 8pm Second Annual Big Sur Looping Festival, featuring Manring/Walker/Lawson trio, with Max Valentino supporting. Henry Miller Library, Highway One, Big Sur, CA 93920 8/7/2001 (possible San Fransisco date - watch this space) 9/7/2001 8pm Rick Walker and the Rio Theater Present - The 2nd Santa Cruz Bass Looping Festival - featuring Me, Michael Manring and Rick Walker, with Max Valentino in support. Rio Theatre 1205 Soquel Ave Santa Cruz, CA 95062 tel - (831)423-2000 I'll also be at Bass Day LA on the 30th June, and hopefully doing a few gigs around LA area the week before that (if you have any suggested venues, e-mail me please!) Those lovely people at Ashdown Amplification are paying for me to be there... :o) cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk (more info about the gigs here...) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 10:08:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30807; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:05:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:05:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010610100319.007bdde0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:03:19 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 In-Reply-To: <001001c0f0e2$e8918560$c8ad5cd1@-> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If your stations only had streaming mp3 capabilities, we wouldn't have to be in Pennsylvania to hear your show! WUNH in Durham, NH has such a setup, and broadcasts a few shows that would be right up the Looper's alley. On Monday nights from 6pm to 8 pm (Eastern time), there's The In Sound, a traditional jazz program, followed at 8 pm by The PCP House of Coffee, an hour of cutting edge avant sounds (LOOP CONTENT HERE), then at 9 pm there's Gammalyte, an hour of funk and Acid Jazz (MORE LOOP CONTENT) which leads into The Trance Lab at 10, 2 hours of LOOP-FRIENDLY electronica which often features live, in-studio performances. On Tuesday nights from 10 'til midnight you can hear Heroin in Headphones, a program devoted to space, drones and household appliances. (LOTSA LOOPS.) Saturday mornings at 9 there's Polka Party. Don't laugh; the host of the show is REALLY good and you'll find yourself absolutely enjoying a musical genre you thought held no appeal for you. Plus, the guy plays accordian in a surf band... Sunday afternoons from 2 to 4, there's Worlds of Music, two hours of world music. For a more complete schedule, go to . Tim At 08:51 AM 6/9/01 -0400, you wrote: > EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursda >y >a11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM >in >Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 10:26:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31578; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:25:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:25:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015b01c0f1b9$63b00e20$582df7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" Subject: DL4 and JamMan nightmares... Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:25:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Great, so I've got a gig tonight and both my loop boxes are playing up! The DL4 is still making weird noises, though I've since discovered that if you have two outputs connected, the weird noise is confined to the Right channel, so so long as I have two jacks connected and only want to run one signal I'm fine... problem is, I usually run from both outputs, allowing me to put my JamMan in a separate loop, which means that there's no through signal and therefor less noise in the chain, and also means that I can use a separate volume pedal after the JamMan to fade that loop without fading the DL4 now my JamMan is playing up!!!!!!!! It keeps resetting the loop - the input level light and the display flicker and each time they do the loop is wiped. I've taken it apart and checked for loose chips, I've unplugged the footswitch and triggered it from the front panel to see if it was the lead or the switch (it isn't), I've switched power supplies (still the same) and worst of all, I've got a gig tonight, playing what looks like being my longest ever solo set in a Restaurant in London, and could really do with having both units working!!!!! F**ing technology - why didn't I just learn acoustic guitar?????? grrrrrrrrr Steve web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" - Bruce Cockburn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 10:41:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32115; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:40:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:40:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <03ac01c0f0f2$17d598c0$c8ad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:40:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <4rDd6D.A.W1H.Gb4I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 >If your stations only had streaming mp3 capabilities, we wouldn't have to >be in Pennsylvania to hear your show! > >WUNH in Durham, NH has such a setup, and >broadcasts a few shows that would be right up the Looper's alley. [snip] >Tim Hi Tim, That's great that WUNH netcasts. WDIY doesn't have the money to set that up. They've been talking about it for a long time, but no action yet. But disturbing news came in from a friend. Can anyone here substantiate this report? =========== Net Access sadly announces that effective immediately WDHA will no longer be streaming its on-air content over the Internet. WDHA is one of many radio stations effected by a recent court decision. On April 23, 2001 the US Copyright Office, siding with the RIAA, stated that royalties must be paid on streamed content. The decision has received a mixed reaction; some cheer it for clearing up some “gray areas” of copyright law, while others condemn it citing how it hinders the radio industries “ability to keep abreast of modern technology.” Radio stations pay licensing fees for the music that they broadcast over the air, the fees are based on audience size. These licensing fees are distributed to the artists in the form of royalties. This decision forces them to pay additional licensing fees for the music that they broadcast over the Internet, effectively doubling their operating costs. Several large broadcasting companies have launched a counter-suit; a decision is still pending. =========== Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 11:18:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01848; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:16:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:16:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B23B7F5.DF51EF7D@home.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:09:57 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? References: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------80451C30D5A5C3164144E036" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------80451C30D5A5C3164144E036 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just hope it doesn't break!!! Getting parts to repair this stuff is next to impossible. After Behringer pulled distribution from Sam Ash, a company in New York got the blanket and saddle. So far, we've been waiting for a year and a half for replacement transformers for two units, and 6 months for power supply parts. Just a bit of advise from the repair side of things. Be Well Will Brake Soul Fruit --------------80451C30D5A5C3164144E036 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------80451C30D5A5C3164144E036-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 11:34:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02678; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:33:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:33:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:30:36 +0200 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1597Cj-240GW0C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A nice experiences,but at least european customers have more trouble with such questions. Cutomer Support of american companies in Europe is similar to the experience you made with a german company.For Berhinger Support it is quiet easy for me in Germany. ---------- >Von: Will Brake >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 20:09 Uhr > >Just hope it doesn't break!!! Getting parts to repair this stuff is next >to impossible. After Behringer pulled distribution from Sam Ash, a >company in New York got the blanket and saddle. So far, we've been >waiting for a year and a half for replacement transformers for two >units, and 6 months for power supply parts. Just a bit of advise from >the repair side of things. > >Be Well > >Will Brake >Soul Fruit From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 11:40:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03116; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:39:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:39:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B23BD55.A95E2BEA@home.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:32:53 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? References: <1597Cj-240GW0C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C23069E8B19A566A9490CFCA" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C23069E8B19A566A9490CFCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit not so...Most European makers have good distribution in the US. Sorry, but Behringer really dropped the ball on this issue. Be Well Will Brake Soul Fruit Martin Tauchen wrote: > > A nice experiences,but at least european customers have more trouble with > such questions. > Cutomer Support of american companies in Europe is similar to the experience > you > made with a german company.For Berhinger Support it is quiet easy for me in > Germany. > > ---------- > >Von: Will Brake > >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 20:09 Uhr > > > > >Just hope it doesn't break!!! Getting parts to repair this stuff is next > >to impossible. After Behringer pulled distribution from Sam Ash, a > >company in New York got the blanket and saddle. So far, we've been > >waiting for a year and a half for replacement transformers for two > >units, and 6 months for power supply parts. Just a bit of advise from > >the repair side of things. > > > >Be Well > > > >Will Brake > >Soul Fruit --------------C23069E8B19A566A9490CFCA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------C23069E8B19A566A9490CFCA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 11:58:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03686; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:57:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:57:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:54:38 +0200 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1597Zy-0Rl76uC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA03650 Resent-Message-ID: <8lbVtB.A.S5.Ej5I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hmmmmm....? As I am not residing in the US,I can not know how good the support of Behringer is. Behringer gives me here a fine support.No need for any lament. I will contact Behringer to ask them about this misery and give them a hint that a good support should be also done in the US. Maybe their Market strategy is more fixed to the european market.I guess so. On the other hand it is difficult for a foreign company to get a foot in the door of the american market. Behringer units are usually also "robust" build.So don´t worry to much ! Marty ---------- >Von: Will Brake >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 20:32 Uhr > >not so...Most European makers have good distribution in the US. Sorry, >but Behringer really dropped the ball on this issue. > >Be Well > >Will Brake >Soul Fruit > >Martin Tauchen wrote: >> >> A nice experiences,but at least european customers have more trouble with >> such questions. >> Cutomer Support of american companies in Europe is similar to the experience >> you >> made with a german company.For Berhinger Support it is quiet easy for me in >> Germany. >> >> ---------- >> >Von: Will Brake >> >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >> >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 20:09 Uhr >> > >> >> >Just hope it doesn't break!!! Getting parts to repair this stuff is next >> >to impossible. After Behringer pulled distribution from Sam Ash, a >> >company in New York got the blanket and saddle. So far, we've been >> >waiting for a year and a half for replacement transformers for two >> >units, and 6 months for power supply parts. Just a bit of advise from >> >the repair side of things. >> > >> >Be Well >> > >> >Will Brake >> >Soul Fruit From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 12:57:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06056; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:55:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:55:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010610095025.00ba55d0@mail.well.com> X-Sender: dog@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:50:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: dan mcmullen Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-Reply-To: References: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com fwiw: a major reason behringer stuff is so cheap is that it is manufactured in china. ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 13:08:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07370; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:06:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:06:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010610095025.00ba55d0@mail.well.com> References: <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> <000001c0f153$e12a4fc0$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> <3.0.5.32.20010610095025.00ba55d0@mail.well.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:59:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From: dan mcmullen >fwiw: a major reason behringer stuff is so cheap is that it is manufactured >in china. Hmm. Behringer don't seem to be the nicest of companies... I think I'll continue to not-buy their products! (but damn, it's cheap...) /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 13:30:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08104; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:29:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:29:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <73.e74c2d1.28550869@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:29:13 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Behringer rip offs. Well apparently Mackie won their case against Behringer when it was found that a Behringer PCB duplicated the mistakes in a Mackie board. seems then that just copying the circuit, which Behringer claimed was generic, wouldn't have been good enough for a conviction. ...but then Behringer have brought out stuff that seemed to lead the market (Autocom). ...and there isn't any equivalent of the Modulizer ...I've tried out Mackies in shops, and didn't rate the quality of the pre-amps, or the EQ. whereas the Behringer stuff seems OK . ...but then Mackie recently ran adds to say they'd greatly improved their pre-amps. the other reason for Behringer being cheap is because it's made in china. Well lets all mail Behringer and ask if they're going to make a looper andy butler (rambling) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 13:38:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08447; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:37:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:37:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:34:30 +0200 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15998d-1qUOUiC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmmmmmmm.....? Most producers let produce in China,Taiwan,Indonesia and so on.Full assembled or half assembeled. Prices are low there. Please look at your Apple Compuiter.Eventhough a high priced device(I prefer Apple nevertheless), most of its hardware comes form "abroad".Look at the mouse or other hardware stuff "Manufactured in China". then this pre arranged stuff goes to the Apple factories,where it is a simple Puzzle to set this preproduced together. This is the usual way of buisiness.Not only Behringer practice like it.Also the big US-companies handle it like that ! So if you avoid to buy Behringer for such reasons,you should also avoid to buy products of all this other companies who does it the same. At least there will be not left a lot wich you can choose from ! Marty ---------- >Von: Tom Ritchford >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 18:59 Uhr > >From: dan mcmullen > >>fwiw: a major reason behringer stuff is so cheap is that it is manufactured >>in china. > >Hmm. Behringer don't seem to be the nicest of companies... >I think I'll continue to not-buy their products! > >(but damn, it's cheap...) > > /t > > > that was fast > >.......all legal games of chess ...... >.....programmer's documentation .................. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 14:01:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10045; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:59:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:59:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <15998d-1qUOUiC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> References: <15998d-1qUOUiC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:46:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Most producers let produce in China,Taiwan,Indonesia and so on.Full >assembled or half assembeled. I have nothing against Taiwan and Indonesia... China is kinda disturbing to me because at least some of the work is done with slave labour (I doubt that they have prisoners putting together circuit boards, though). But I can't just not buy computers and electronics, it's what I do. (I mean, I do a lot of things, and that's one of them.) >So if you avoid to buy Behringer for such reasons,you >should also avoid to >buy products of all this other companies who does it the same. >At least there will be not left a lot wich you can choose from ! No, I wouldn't avoid Behringer for just that reason, it'd be crazy. But given also that they do copy other designs, which bothers me as a programmer and thus an intellectual property worker! and that their stuff is a little flimsy, I'll give their products a pass. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 14:09:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10414; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:08:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:08:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010610140643.007cca10@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:06:43 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 In-Reply-To: <03ac01c0f0f2$17d598c0$c8ad5cd1@-> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <-0j4SD.A.fiC.He7I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmm, I wonder if that applies across the board, or if there are some special provisions for Public Radio, college stations and other non-commercial broadcasting. You're right, that IS disturbing. At 10:40 AM 6/9/01 -0400, you wrote: >...effective immediately WDHA >will no longer be streaming its on-air content over the >Internet. WDHA is one of many radio stations effected by a >recent court decision. On April 23, 2001 the US Copyright >Office, siding with the RIAA, stated that royalties must be >paid on streamed content. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 15:53:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13473; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:51:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:51:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQkL5K9r+cOrJjwWnFhiQCi6pFF9AIUKsuaXyKYNerVOBAYhvZql6c+nNE= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:51:01 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer Message-ID: <26988-3B23CFA5-902@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: SoundFNR@aol.com's message of Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:29:13 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ive had my beringer 9000 board for over 4 years,as well as lots of outboard stuff and ive had no problems and it sounds quiet and professional.i like it just as much as my SECK board.anyone heard of seck products?I bought my board through the mail.It is fantastic.I was wondering who handles them in the USA From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 16:00:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14704; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:59:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:59:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ7fRitpoBd47icZHvlD4obYB817QIUNpEM2wbNN9HMIDeAeSBOpgQjgvs= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:58:40 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Message-ID: <26993-3B23D170-133@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen)'s message of Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:34:30 +0200 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just bought an APEX 450 tube microphone.It can compete with my Neumann and my AKGs .,but it only cost $1200 cause its made in china.This is not a blanket praise of chinese electronics,as im sure it depends on the QC of the parent company.But i would say that Behringer and Apex keep a close watch on the chinese production quality. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 16:27:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15211; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:25:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:25:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:23:10 +0200 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Behringer copy some designs and constructions.That is not a wonder to me. A lot of tools we use,are mostly copies of something else. In the pharmaceutical buisiness we call such "products" generica.After a time such companies offers such copies of products at a low price.So I trace Behringer as a "Generica" reseller. The "original" producer had immense costs to develop a "medical" product,so he is protected by International laws for some years.After this time everyone can bring a "copy" of this product on the market. Actually seen on the debate in Africa,where gouverments want to allow to produce copies of medical product-wich can help a little bit against the negative effects of HIV infection.The Pharmaindustry will not allow it,because it is still in the protected phase of the copyright.But in Africa no one can afford this medecine. So these gouverments decided to ripp Generica from the original design. >From this case,I have also my doubts about Dow Chemical and Co.Profit orientated. The latest News was that they have found now a compromise. Nevertheless,the discussion before it was not a sign of morality in this case. Behringer rips maybe somethings of.But all devices are not totally brandnew technology, wich need a special protection.Functions are nearly similar.A mixing console will be always a mixing console.How it will be designed depends on the engineers.And most parts of a mixing console come again from different producers,where all M-Console produce shop. The same is valid for FX-devices and other audio equipment. According to the streetprice,we should not wonder,that Behringer products are not the best,but they are also not filthy. If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products were ripped off from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed there in the seventies,a first commercial product-the DX7 was released in 1983. The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and manifested as consumertool in 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. One word to China.The situation for labours there is really not OK.but in Indonesia,Malaysia and Taiwan the simple labour is in a similar situation like in China.Ever seen how they work there ? And what are there rights ? The only difference between China and the others is the political system. And when HongKong was still under british gouverment.Ever seen old people living in their birdcage ? After a life of long hard work,this was their last place for living.Two Squaremeter space with a hight of 1,5 meter.Looking like a birdcage. And at least,everyone knows,that Bill Gates Microsoft is the worlds greatest Ripper. Marty ---------- >Von: Tom Ritchford >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 19:46 Uhr > >>Most producers let produce in China,Taiwan,Indonesia and so on.Full >>assembled or half assembeled. > >I have nothing against Taiwan and Indonesia... > >China is kinda disturbing to me because at least >some of the work is done with slave labour (I doubt that >they have prisoners putting together circuit boards, though). > >But I can't just not buy computers and electronics, it's >what I do. > >(I mean, I do a lot of things, and that's one of them.) > > >>So if you avoid to buy Behringer for such reasons,you >>should also avoid to >>buy products of all this other companies who does it the same. >>At least there will be not left a lot wich you can choose from ! > >No, I wouldn't avoid Behringer for just that reason, it'd be crazy. > >But given also that they do copy other designs, which bothers me >as a programmer and thus an intellectual property worker! >and that their stuff is a little flimsy, >I'll give their products a pass. > > /t > > > that was fast > >.......all legal games of chess ...... >.....programmer's documentation .................. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 17:06:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17021; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:04:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:04:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:03:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com words of wisdom, Martin!!! They still talk about "ethics" with mixers...ridiculous! italoop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Tauchen" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > Behringer copy some designs and constructions.That is not a wonder to me. > A lot of tools we use,are mostly copies of something else. > > In the pharmaceutical buisiness we call such "products" generica.After a > time > such companies offers such copies of products at a low price.So I trace > Behringer > as a "Generica" reseller. > The "original" producer had immense costs to develop a "medical" product,so > he is > protected by International laws for some years.After this time everyone can > bring a > "copy" of this product on the market. > Actually seen on the debate in Africa,where gouverments want to allow to > produce > copies of medical product-wich can help a little bit against the negative > effects > of HIV infection.The Pharmaindustry will not allow it,because it is still in > the > protected phase of the copyright.But in Africa no one can afford this > medecine. > So these gouverments decided to ripp Generica from the original design. > From this case,I have also my doubts about Dow Chemical and Co.Profit > orientated. > The latest News was that they have found now a compromise. > Nevertheless,the discussion before it was not a sign of morality in this > case. > > Behringer rips maybe somethings of.But all devices are not totally brandnew > technology, > wich need a special protection.Functions are nearly similar.A mixing console > will be > always a mixing console.How it will be designed depends on the engineers.And > most parts > of a mixing console come again from different producers,where all M-Console > produce shop. > The same is valid for FX-devices and other audio equipment. > According to the streetprice,we should not wonder,that Behringer products > are not the > best,but they are also not filthy. > > If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products > were ripped off > from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed there in the > seventies,a first commercial > product-the DX7 was released in 1983. > The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and > manifested as consumertool in > 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. > > One word to China.The situation for labours there is really not OK.but in > Indonesia,Malaysia and > Taiwan the simple labour is in a similar situation like in China.Ever seen > how they work there ? > And what are there rights ? The only difference between China and the others > is the political > system. > And when HongKong was still under british gouverment.Ever seen old people > living in their birdcage ? > After a life of long hard work,this was their last place for living.Two > Squaremeter space with a > hight of 1,5 meter.Looking like a birdcage. > > And at least,everyone knows,that Bill Gates Microsoft is the worlds greatest > Ripper. > > > Marty > > > > > > ---------- > >Von: Tom Ritchford > >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 19:46 Uhr > > > > >>Most producers let produce in China,Taiwan,Indonesia and so on.Full > >>assembled or half assembeled. > > > >I have nothing against Taiwan and Indonesia... > > > >China is kinda disturbing to me because at least > >some of the work is done with slave labour (I doubt that > >they have prisoners putting together circuit boards, though). > > > >But I can't just not buy computers and electronics, it's > >what I do. > > > >(I mean, I do a lot of things, and that's one of them.) > > > > > >>So if you avoid to buy Behringer for such reasons,you > >>should also avoid to > >>buy products of all this other companies who does it the same. > >>At least there will be not left a lot wich you can choose from ! > > > >No, I wouldn't avoid Behringer for just that reason, it'd be crazy. > > > >But given also that they do copy other designs, which bothers me > >as a programmer and thus an intellectual property worker! > >and that their stuff is a little flimsy, > >I'll give their products a pass. > > > > /t > > > > > > that was fast > > > >.......all legal games of chess ...... > >.....programmer's documentation .................. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 17:10:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17220; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:08:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:08:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:04:58 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:23 PM +0200 6/10/01, Martin Tauchen wrote: >If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products >were ripped off from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed >there in the seventies,a first commercial product-the DX7 was >released in 1983. >The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and >manifested as consumertool in 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. Not ripped off in these cases. Yamaha has a long-standing set of licensing agreements with Stanford, dating to John Chowning's 1975 linear FM patent. Physical modeling was similarly licensed from Stanford. I'm not aware of any claims against Yamaha of infringement. In fact, my impression of the company is generally positive. They have a good reputation for supporting research and education, and I've personally found them (and by this I mean the individuals I've dealt with) to be cordial and even generous. In contrast, I have no such warm and fuzzy feelings for the rippers of the world, such as Behringer and Fernandes. That isn't to say there aren't problems. When Yamaha secured patents on linear FM applications to musical instrument design, this meant that other manufacturers were obliged to either pay them licensing fees or cease to use the technique in their own instruments. Some smaller manufacturers, such as Buchla, had already been using FM, but didn't think to apply for a patent. Another case that I have problems with is Coda's patents on interactive computer music and score following. They struck a deal with Roger Dannenberg, who had the foresight to secure a patent in 1985, and Coda insisted that their patents applied to all score following algorithms. Other researchers who had independently arrived at score following were in theory obliged to pay Coda for a license. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 17:20:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17465; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:18:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:18:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:15:18 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >words of wisdom, Martin!!! They still talk about "ethics" with >mixers...ridiculous! You don't believe in professional ethics? If Company A spends a lot of money to design a piece of equipment and then Company B simply copies the design and sells it at a lower price, this is OK with you? Curious. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 18:27:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19879; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:26:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:26:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c0f1fc$1db92760$89ab1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:24:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No Richard, that is NOT ok!!! But this thread doesn't get anywhere. See ethics are totally unrespected in any field, including human beings lives....so what's the point anyway here? Are national distributors ethical when they charge DOUBLE price compared to the manufacturer country? Are shops ethical when they try to sell pro gear WITHOUT any specialized people assisting clients? Are manufacturers ethical when they NEVER fix bugs or put out MALFUNCTIONING gear? Is SAMPLING ethical? Is MP3 ethical? ...well, we could go on forever! what's the point?...I don't know. Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Zvonar" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:15 PM Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >words of wisdom, Martin!!! They still talk about "ethics" with > >mixers...ridiculous! > > You don't believe in professional ethics? > > If Company A spends a lot of money to design a piece of equipment and > then Company B simply copies the design and sells it at a lower > price, this is OK with you? > > Curious. > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://RZCybernetics.com > http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 18:39:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20159; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:38:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:38:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:38:00 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? In-reply-to: <000701c0f1fc$1db92760$89ab1597@default> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> <000701c0f1fc$1db92760$89ab1597@default> Resent-Message-ID: <3kHRtC.A.x6E.Db_I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 12:24 AM +0200 6/11/01, Italo De Angelis wrote: >See ethics are totally unrespected in any field, including human beings >lives....so what's the point anyway here? >Are national distributors ethical when they charge DOUBLE price compared to >the manufacturer country? >Are shops ethical when they try to sell pro gear WITHOUT any specialized >people assisting clients? >Are manufacturers ethical when they NEVER fix bugs or put out MALFUNCTIONING >gear? >Is SAMPLING ethical? >Is MP3 ethical? >...well, we could go on forever! >what's the point?...I don't know. The point is to remind people that despite all the unethical behavior in the world, it still IS an issue! When we do business we should support companies who behave ethically and we should shun those who do not. When someone considers buying products or services from an unethical company, it is the responsibility of those who care about ethics to point out that the way such a company does business is at least as important as how inexpensive their products are. This is one way we can help to improve the industry. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 19:00:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20506; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:53:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:53:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200106102252.PAA19401@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:55:13 -0700 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6sivfC.A.0_E.Lp_I7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sorry to be so cliche ridden,but -knowledge is power-ignorance is bliss-U get what U pay 4 goinloopy stanner ---------- >From: Richard Zvonar >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Date: Sun, Jun 10, 2001, 2:04 PM > >At 10:23 PM +0200 6/10/01, Martin Tauchen wrote: > >>If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products >>were ripped off from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed >>there in the seventies,a first commercial product-the DX7 was >>released in 1983. >>The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and >>manifested as consumertool in 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. > >Not ripped off in these cases. Yamaha has a long-standing set of >licensing agreements with Stanford, dating to John Chowning's 1975 >linear FM patent. Physical modeling was similarly licensed from >Stanford. > >I'm not aware of any claims against Yamaha of infringement. In fact, >my impression of the company is generally positive. They have a good >reputation for supporting research and education, and I've personally >found them (and by this I mean the individuals I've dealt with) to be >cordial and even generous. > >In contrast, I have no such warm and fuzzy feelings for the rippers >of the world, such as Behringer and Fernandes. > >That isn't to say there aren't problems. When Yamaha secured patents >on linear FM applications to musical instrument design, this meant >that other manufacturers were obliged to either pay them licensing >fees or cease to use the technique in their own instruments. Some >smaller manufacturers, such as Buchla, had already been using FM, but >didn't think to apply for a patent. > >Another case that I have problems with is Coda's patents on >interactive computer music and score following. They struck a deal >with Roger Dannenberg, who had the foresight to secure a patent in >1985, and Coda insisted that their patents applied to all score >following algorithms. Other researchers who had independently arrived >at score following were in theory obliged to pay Coda for a license. >-- > >______________________________________________________________ >Richard Zvonar, PhD >(818) 788-2202 >http://www.zvonar.com >http://RZCybernetics.com >http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 19:24:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22186; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:23:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:23:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010610232256.52389.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:22:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The schedule sounds great. I will be checking it out. If there are people who are interested in seeing a streaming mp3 show based on looping artists please let me know, I am involved with a site that hosts shoutcast shows. I would think there would be enough content to start a show for loop based recordings. The important issue here is having people that are interested in being played but also whether there is an audience to listen to the show. We are a self sustaining site that has no ads or intrusive requirements required to hear the shows we support. Please let me know if this would interest you. Bruce Satinover ArtistLaunch.com http://artistlaunch.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - If your stations only had streaming mp3 capabilities, we wouldn't have to be in Pennsylvania to hear your show! WUNH in Durham, NH has such a setup, and broadcasts a few shows that would be right up the Looper's alley. On Monday nights from 6pm to 8 pm (Eastern time), there's The In Sound, a traditional jazz program, followed at 8 pm by The PCP House of Coffee, an hour of cutting edge avant sounds (LOOP CONTENT HERE), then at 9 pm there's Gammalyte, an hour of funk and Acid Jazz (MORE LOOP CONTENT) which leads into The Trance Lab at 10, 2 hours of LOOP-FRIENDLY electronica which often features live, in-studio performances. On Tuesday nights from 10 'til midnight you can hear Heroin in Headphones, a program devoted to space, drones and household appliances. (LOTSA LOOPS.) Saturday mornings at 9 there's Polka Party. Don't laugh; the host of the show is REALLY good and you'll find yourself absolutely enjoying a musical genre you thought held no appeal for you. Plus, the guy plays accordian in a surf band... Sunday afternoons from 2 to 4, there's Worlds of Music, two hours of world music. For a more complete schedule, go to . Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 19:47:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22653; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:45:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:45:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2406AE.1CBF3250@home.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:45:50 -0400 From: JoE Silva Organization: QRM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cubase, loops, and desperation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com All- Just started using Cubase (3.7). Need help with understanding sample loops and "parts" in the audio editor. Why when importing a perfect sample loop from a CD or from my audio editor (Sound Forge 4.5), can I not get Cubase to loop the audio file perfectly just by butting copies of the original against one another. There is always an audio pause as Cubase moves from one copy to the next. Sanity is slipping away. Any help would be a Godsend... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 19:57:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22946; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:56:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:56:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: YooN08@aol.com Message-ID: <47.c5d4ee4.285562eb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:55:23 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_47.c5d4ee4.285562eb_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_47.c5d4ee4.285562eb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe --part1_47.c5d4ee4.285562eb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe
--part1_47.c5d4ee4.285562eb_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 20:38:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA24893; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:37:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:37:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:36:44 -0400 Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: antonio melo To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <47.c5d4ee4.285562eb@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3075050204_247942_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3075050204_247942_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Welcome to the Loopers-Delight mailing list! Please keep this mail for future reference! This is a place for discussing the use of loops in music - the techniques, the tools, the artists, the art. It is a wide subject, with plenty of areas to delve. So go to it! There are no restrictions on what can or cannot be discussed here. I'm a firm beleiver in a community's ability to regulate itself, so if you stray too far off the subject someone will probably let you know. For nettiquete's sake, you should try to post things that are somewhere near the topic. Just don't start any flame wars, ok? Through communication we can build our little loop community and extend our art! To post to the list, send your mail to: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com If you ever need to unsubscribe, send mail to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject and the body. (without the quotes!) Make sure that your signature file is turned off. You can also find list information here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html And be sure to check the Looper's Delight web page: http://www.loopers-delight.com If you are new to mailing lists (or for that matter, if you have used them for years....) I highly recommend you visit the section on mailing lists in the highly regarded "The Net: User Guidelines and Netiquette", by Arlene H. Rinaldi: http://www.fau.edu/netiquette/net/dis.html If you need to discuss anything directly with me, I'm Kim Flint, and my email address is kflint@loopers-delight.com. Have fun, and happy looping! kim This is an automated subscription mechanism. For your verification, a transcript of the original subscription request is included below. If the wrong address has been subscribed and you seem to be unable to fix it yourself, reply to this message now (quoting it entirely (for diagnostic purposes), and of course adding any comments you see fit). -- From: YooN08@aol.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:55:23 EDT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:55:30 -0400 unsubscribe --MS_Mac_OE_3075050204_247942_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: unsubscribe Welcome to the Loopers-Delight mailing list!

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--MS_Mac_OE_3075050204_247942_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 10 21:54:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27213; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:52:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:52:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:51:02 EDT Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc.163c0853.28557e06_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_cc.163c0853.28557e06_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it would certainly interest me - i spend alot of time listening to streaming audio and i don't think there can ever be too much of a good thing - a streaming site dedicated to loop based music would be great - count me in (as a listener and possible contributor of music) - harry --part1_cc.163c0853.28557e06_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it would certainly interest me - i spend alot of time listening to streaming
audio and i don't think there can ever be too much of a good thing - a
streaming site dedicated to loop based music would be great - count me in (as
a listener and possible contributor of music) - harry --part1_cc.163c0853.28557e06_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 01:56:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA03778; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 01:53:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 01:53:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001601c0f23b$692ca660$fc518218@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: <3B2406AE.1CBF3250@home.com> Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:57:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Look closely at the wav to make sure there are no gaps at the ends- but the issue is probably in the arrange window in Cubase- if the Song is not at the same tempo of the loop it may not fit perfectly- so you can do a few things to solve- one is to sdjust the tempo in Cubase to match the tempo of the sample- the other is to time stretch the sample in Cubase to fit properly- if you zoom in on the event you will see it does not go all the way to the bar line- there is a stretch tool in Cubase- but be warned, time stretching is very good at introducing artifacts into the sound- also, you will need to copy the stretched part and paste it end to end- Happy Looping- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: JoE Silva To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: Cubase, loops, and desperation > All- > > Just started using Cubase (3.7). Need help with understanding sample > loops and "parts" in the audio editor. Why when importing a perfect > sample loop from a CD or from my audio editor (Sound Forge 4.5), can I > not get Cubase to loop the audio file perfectly just by butting copies > of the original against one another. There is always an audio pause as > Cubase moves from one copy to the next. Sanity is slipping away. Any > help would be a Godsend... > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 03:07:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA07026; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:05:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:05:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106110704.DAA06996@hemlock.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:59:19 +0200 Subject: my JamMan question. From: "The Music Lab" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi there! Okay, I know, the JamMan is not the newest looping device around, but many of us are still using it and feeling happy about it. I just recently got mine, so I am pretty new to looping. Also I have basically just been lurking on the loopers-delight list. Last thursday I have posted to the list with some questions about trying to make an AABA scheme on the JamMan. So far, nobody replied. I understand that maybe I am asking to much, but I am dedicated to make it work in some way. More stupid even is the fact that I've committed myself to do an AABA-style loop performance next wednesday, here in Holland, without even getting things right technically...yes: stupid! So you guys out there, being a really dedicated looping-community, please be so kind to help me out on this one!! Thanks so much, Frank Below are my JamMan questions: I am trying to play an AABA scheme with my JamMan (32 sec.), but I am not succesful so far. I would like to record loop 1 (the first A) as follows: 4 bars in tempo 60 with 16 midi quarter notes in punch in loop mode, actually resulting in a 8 bars loop in tempo 120 with 32 quarter notes). Then loop 1 should be repeated (no layering, just playing) to form the second A. After that loop 2 should be recorded to form the B. Finally our first loop 1 comes back to form the third A. So this would buid an AABA scheme, which I would like to repeat a couple of times, each time adding new sounds to the first A and the B. I've tried to do this with the sequencer being the master and the Jamman as a slave. I am programming in Logic on my Mac.I would like to copy the final sequence in Logic to a stand alone sequencer (Yamaha QY70) which I could take with me on stage to drive the JamMan. I would like to use a headphone with a clicktrack for the first 2 or 3 choruses. I have found out that after recording the B (loop 2), there is no way of cuing the JamMan in order to continue playing loop 1 straight away. It wants to play loop 2 first. Well Okay....in that case I've decided to first get both loops in the Jamman by lowering the input knob to zero and start the sequencer. I programmed a Tap on the first beat of bar1 and it records loop 1 (4 bars, tempo 60), it plays loop1 and then goes into recording loop 2 with the same lenght. I let play loop 2 (which is silent, since the input knob is on zero) and raise the input knob to a good level. I cue loop 1 and start playing my instrument and recording my first A. It then starts playing the second A, I cue loop2 and sometimes it goes into record mode and sometimes not. Then things are getting messy and out of sync. I've tried dozens of diffent Tap commands but the JamMan just does what it likes. MY JAMMAN-SLAVE QUESTIONS: *is there someone who has already made a midi-file which can do an AABA scheme? *Could I record a click and then shift it forward to sound in sync. Will there be any cutoffs on my recordings? So, not being succesful I want to try and use the JamMan as the master controlling the sequencer. Before I spend another 20 hours on finding out how to do this, could someone tell me the secret??? Thanks for reading all this. Help greatly appreciated! Frank Bilsen -- The Music Lab Frank Bilsen Netherlands tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 fax: 0299-404834 e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl site: http://welcome.to/themusiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 04:21:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09350; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:19:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:19:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Got my EDP fixed Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:18:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F24F.0E1D92F2" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F24F.0E1D92F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm glad it was something obvious, but out of all the removable parts inside, the big 68-pin devices are the least-likely to come out of their sockets, so this is quite strange. Make sure your friend did the other things we mentioned; re-seat the EPROMS, clean the memory etc. as this loose CPU may not have been the initial fault; it could have been dislodged when you thumped it and just be a red herring. Andy. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: 10 June 2001 00:34 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Got my EDP fixed Finally got someone to open up my EDP, and indeed there was a loose chip -- it was one of the CPU chips, I believe. So hopefully it's clear sailing from here. Thanks again Andy and others for your quick advice. P>S> No wonder knocking it with my fist worked so well! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F24F.0E1D92F2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Re: Got my EDP fixed
I'm glad it was something obvious, but out of all the removable parts inside, the big 68-pin devices are the least-likely to come out of their sockets, so this is quite strange. Make sure your friend did the other things we mentioned; re-seat the EPROMS, clean the memory etc. as this loose CPU may not have been the initial fault; it could have been dislodged when you thumped it and just be a red herring.
Andy.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: 10 June 2001 00:34
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Got my EDP fixed

Finally got someone to open up my EDP, and indeed there was a loose chip -- it was one of the CPU chips, I believe.  So hopefully it's clear sailing from here.  Thanks again Andy and others for your quick advice.
P>S> No wonder knocking it with my fist worked so well!
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F24F.0E1D92F2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 05:09:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11224; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:05:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:05:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Electrix Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:04:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F255.86C7B1F0" Resent-Message-ID: <35oVLB.A.MvC.NnIJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F255.86C7B1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cheers Paul, (cheque's in the post). -----Original Message----- From: PaulPokr@aol.com [mailto:PaulPokr@aol.com] Sent: 09 June 2001 00:44 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway. I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion about the use of this complex unit. Many people were waiting for the EDP's, when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting to this board lately. Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life using the EDP. True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. saving loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro. Regards, Paul ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F255.86C7B1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Cheers Paul,
(cheque's in the post).
-----Original Message-----
From: PaulPokr@aol.com [mailto:PaulPokr@aol.com]
Sent: 09 June 2001 00:44
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Electrix

Frankly, I don't know why many people are so ga-ga over the Repeater anyway.
I'm not knocking it, but the EDP is here now. I see very little discussion
about the use of this complex unit. Many people were waiting for the EDP's,
when they were not being manufactured, to be resurrected by Gibson/Trace
Elliot. I know many folks must have purchased them from Alto, based on
various discussions. There don't seem to be a lot of EDP evangelists posting
to this board lately.

Anyhow, I've been making some of the best music I ever have in my life using
the EDP.

True, there are things that may be easier done with the Repeater (e.g. saving
loops). Nonetheless, there's already a great looper, certainly the best
currently available for a resonable price, in the Echoplex Digital Pro.

Regards, Paul
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F255.86C7B1F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 05:23:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11495; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:21:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:21:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: wavecomputer360@gmx.de Message-ID: <008001c0f257$242d50c0$0478fd91@StephenParsick> To: Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:45:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0F25B.3A695060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0F25B.3A695060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I=B4ve been working for Behringer as a translator for a while and = won=B4t give away too many secrets of their manufacture or whatever. I = am using some of their products, most notably the MX2642A mixer as this = is by far the most flexible 19" mixer on the market, and if your music = is heavily based on looping and processing there is nothing to beat this = unit routing and sound-wise for stage and live applications or where = space is an issue. But honestly, I was working hand in hand with the R&D department back = then and their hottest product was what became that blue POD spin-off. I = asked whether they wouldn=B4t be interested in building a loop sampler = as this was what many people were waiting for... no reply, just a grin. = Who knows... maybe they wait until the repeater is available in order to = get some inspiration 8)? Speaking for me, not for Behringer, Stephen. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0F25B.3A695060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
I=B4ve been working for Behringer as a = translator for=20 a while and won=B4t give away too many secrets of their manufacture or = whatever. I=20 am using some of their products, most notably the MX2642A mixer as this = is by=20 far the most flexible 19" mixer on the market, and if your music is = heavily=20 based on looping and processing there is nothing to beat this unit = routing and=20 sound-wise for stage and live applications or where space is an=20 issue.
 
But honestly, I was working hand in = hand with=20 the R&D department back then and their hottest product was what = became that=20 blue POD spin-off. I asked whether they wouldn=B4t be interested in = building a=20 loop sampler as this was what many people were waiting for... no reply, = just a=20 grin. Who knows... maybe they wait until the repeater is available in = order to=20 get some inspiration 8)?
 
Speaking for me, not for = Behringer,
 
Stephen.
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0F25B.3A695060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 05:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11494; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:21:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:21:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: wavecomputer360@gmx.de Message-ID: <008101c0f257$2539dec0$0478fd91@StephenParsick> To: Cc: Subject: Concert announcement! Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:15:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0F267.C26499A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0F267.C26499A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, now follows a classic example of shameless and blatant self-promotion as = I am going to announce our concert at Jodrell Bank planetarium on June = 23... First set will be [=B4ramp], performing dark ambient music in the vein = of Lightwave, Robert Rich or Michael Stearns, heavily based on looping = and recycling, mixed with some rather leftfield electronics in the style = of Node or... well, Node. The current line-up of [=B4ramp] will be Frank = Makowski and the humble author of these lines. The entire concert will = be improvised, just like the second show of the day. Second set will be German space music veteran Cosmic Hoffmann aka Klaus = Hoffmann-Hoock of MIND OVER MATTER fame (well, sort of), supported also = by the humble writer of this pamphlet 8). Stylistically, the CH gig will = be exploring the psychedelic side of electronic music, going into the = realms of Pink Floyd, early Tangerine Dream (think Phaedra/Rubycon era) = and some free-flowing ambient stuff.=20 Analog content: We=B4ll be using, among other things, a Roland Jupiter 8 = and JD-800, NordLead 2, Korg PE-2000, Mini Moog, Moog Prodigy, Rhodes 73 = Mk. 1 stage piano w/ Mutron Biphase, Yamaha YC-30, various processors, = tape delays and loop devices, and eventually -- if Martin and John = supply us with one -- a Mellotron. Klaus will be demonstrating his = Megatron, a digital Mellotron based on his vast archive of tapesets of = all Mellotron models, ranging from the Mk. 2 and M-300 to the M-400. The concerts will be held at the Jodrell Bank planetarium. For further = information check www.synthmusicdirect.com or get in touch with Dave Law = (the organizer) at dave@synthmusicdirect.com. On the synthmusic site = you=B4ll find reviews of our albums which may or may not be helpful if = you=B4re not yet sure whether to come or not. You might also want to = check our webpage at www.nodular.de for more info on our projects. Hope to see many UK AHers there. Just talk to us, we won=B4t bite back = 8). The only problem: Time will be in short supply, I=B4m afraid.... Cheerio, and sorry for stealing your time, Stephen/[=B4ramp] ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0F267.C26499A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
now follows a classic example of = shameless and=20 blatant self-promotion as I am going to announce our concert at Jodrell = Bank=20 planetarium on June 23...
 
First set will be [=B4ramp], performing = dark ambient=20 music in the vein of Lightwave, Robert Rich or Michael Stearns, heavily = based on=20 looping and recycling, mixed with some rather leftfield electronics = in the=20 style of Node or... well, Node. The current line-up of [=B4ramp] will be = Frank=20 Makowski and the humble author of these lines. The entire concert will = be=20 improvised, just like the second show of the day.
 
Second set will be German space = music veteran=20 Cosmic Hoffmann aka Klaus Hoffmann-Hoock of MIND OVER MATTER fame (well, = sort=20 of), supported also by the humble writer of this pamphlet 8).=20 Stylistically, the CH gig will be exploring the psychedelic side of = electronic=20 music, going into the realms of Pink Floyd, early Tangerine Dream (think = Phaedra/Rubycon era) and some free-flowing ambient = stuff. 
 
Analog content: We=B4ll be using, among = other things,=20 a Roland Jupiter 8 and JD-800, NordLead 2, Korg PE-2000, Mini Moog, Moog = Prodigy, Rhodes 73 Mk. 1 stage piano w/ Mutron Biphase, Yamaha YC-30, = various=20 processors, tape delays and loop devices, and eventually -- if = Martin and=20 John supply us with one -- a Mellotron. Klaus will be demonstrating his=20 Megatron, a digital Mellotron based on his vast archive of tapesets of = all=20 Mellotron models, ranging from the Mk. 2 and M-300 to the = M-400.
 
The concerts will be held at the = Jodrell Bank=20 planetarium. For further information check www.synthmusicdirect.com or = get in=20 touch with Dave Law (the organizer) at dave@synthmusicdirect.com. = On the=20 synthmusic site you=B4ll find reviews of our albums which may or may not = be=20 helpful if you=B4re not yet sure whether to come or not. You might also = want to=20 check our webpage at www.nodular.de for more=20 info on our projects.
 
Hope to see many UK AHers there. Just = talk to us,=20 we won=B4t bite back 8). The only problem: Time will be in short supply, = I=B4m=20 afraid....
 
Cheerio, and sorry for stealing your=20 time,
 
Stephen/[=B4ramp]
------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0F267.C26499A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 06:33:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13537; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:30:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:30:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:29:33 EDT Subject: Re: my JamMan question. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <48tSw.A.RTD.Q2JJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com eek: i can't remember almost anything about the jamman; i gave mine to one of my kids, when i received my EDP..... though: if you don't get a suitable answer from this list, ya may wanna contact bob sellon. (his website must be listed in the LD archives, i'd guess; the name of his own business was 's-tech', i believe, and he *may* still work at lexicon, as well..... anyone? anyways: he'll certainly have a solution for ya.) re: logic: is it possible that you're sending 'midi settings on startup' to the jamman, thereby auto-setting the jammie to loop#2?, or, have ya got a prog.change. checked-off in the seq/parameter box? and..... i loosely remember that the midi-sync on the (early) jammen was a bit squirrelly..... again, sorry: i can't remember much about the jamman..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 09:16:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19978; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:13:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:13:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: ormandy@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:12:10 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Ormandy Subject: Possible Vortex for Sale Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have a Vortex that I seem to no longer use - it is in immaculate shape (not even scratches on the rackmount ears), has the origional two Lexicon foot switches, adaptor, cables, and manual. Anyone interested? Feel free to e-mail me directly - ormandy@interlog.com. Ciao, Paul O. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 09:38:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20470; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:36:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:36:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B24F1D2.2E9D85F0@home.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:29:06 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer References: <73.e74c2d1.28550869@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4E8887994F2E69FD3566825D" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4E8887994F2E69FD3566825D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, Mackie lost. Just goes to show you there is no justice.... Will SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > > Behringer rip offs. > Well apparently Mackie won their case against Behringer > when it was found that a Behringer PCB duplicated the mistakes > in a Mackie board. > seems then that just copying the circuit, which Behringer > claimed was generic, wouldn't have been good enough for > a conviction. > > ...but then Behringer have brought out stuff that seemed to > lead the market (Autocom). > ...and there isn't any equivalent of the Modulizer > ...I've tried out Mackies in shops, and didn't rate the quality of > the pre-amps, or the EQ. whereas the Behringer > stuff seems OK . > ...but then Mackie recently ran adds to say they'd greatly improved their > pre-amps. > > the other reason for Behringer being cheap is because it's made in china. > > Well lets all mail Behringer and ask if they're going to > make a looper > > andy butler (rambling) --------------4E8887994F2E69FD3566825D Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------4E8887994F2E69FD3566825D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 10:04:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22012; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:01:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:01:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001b01c0f27f$32a64620$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: Subject: echo-plus vs.Boss RC-20 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:02:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0F25D.AB5AAA60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0F25D.AB5AAA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is the RC-20 more like a jam man where you can create a loop and layer = it where if there's a mistake, you stop the loop and start again? The = Echo-plus will let the loop fade out when you release the "infinite = repeat" and lets you punch in a sound at any point during the fading out = of the loop. Does the RC-20 have that "delay pedal" capability? Am very curious about = its 5 minute capabilities though. Thanks--jehn ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0F25D.AB5AAA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is the RC-20 more like a jam man where = you can=20 create a loop and layer it where if there's a mistake, you stop the loop = and=20 start again? The Echo-plus will let the loop fade out when you = release the=20 "infinite repeat" and lets you punch in a sound at any point during the = fading=20 out of the loop.
 
Does the RC-20 have that "delay pedal" = capability?=20 Am very curious about its 5 minute capabilities though.
 
Thanks--jehn
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0F25D.AB5AAA60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 10:12:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22303; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:10:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:10:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B24D119.C1920DCD@home.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:09:29 -0400 From: JoE Silva Organization: QRM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, etc References: <200106111033.GAA13619@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DCB412C2AF0C68FD3C356DDA" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------DCB412C2AF0C68FD3C356DDA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:57:34 -0700 > From: "Om_Audio" > To: > Look closely at the wav to make sure there are no gaps at the ends- > but the > issue is probably in the arrange window in Cubase- if the Song is not > at the > same tempo of the loop it may not fit perfectly I think you're right. Now I understand why Acid is such a popular tool, considering that it performs this operation with far less effort. It looks like I will have to go back and make sure all my tempos and sample rates match up before proceeding with this remix. --------------DCB412C2AF0C68FD3C356DDA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:57:34 -0700
From: "Om_Audio" <clifsound@mediaone.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
 
Look closely at the wav to make sure there are no gaps at the ends- but the
issue is probably in the arrange window in Cubase- if the Song is not at the
same tempo of the loop it may not fit perfectly
I think you're right. Now I understand why Acid is such a popular tool, considering that it performs this operation with far less effort.

It looks like I will have to go back and make sure all my tempos and sample rates match up before proceeding with this remix. --------------DCB412C2AF0C68FD3C356DDA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 10:53:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23186; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:49:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:49:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Might anyone have some flight cases for sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:52:50 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I need a flight case for my mackie 1402-sp808 and rackmount dat-anyone have some used cases for sale? thanks c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 11:56:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25141; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:26:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:26:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:17:54 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Behringer In-reply-to: <3B24F1D2.2E9D85F0@home.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <73.e74c2d1.28550869@aol.com> <3B24F1D2.2E9D85F0@home.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 9:29 AM -0700 6/11/01, Will Brake wrote: >Actually, Mackie lost. Just goes to show you there is no justice.... The only information I can find is a press release announcing that the suit had been settled, but that the terms are confidential. What's the real scoop? -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 12:04:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25318; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:33:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:33:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:23:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1219849512==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1219849512==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of >other companies >to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by >similar products >from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie. > >so I have been told. some of their products do look feature-similar to other >offerings from companies like, say, Mackie. interesting...the salesguy at GC, where i recently bought my Behringer 1604 mixer said the same thing, that they are essentially trying to make a 'Mackie' quality mixer at a lower price point. dunno. so far, i'm having good luck with it. nice price too.. rich --============_-1219849512==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: What the heck is Behringer doing?

the story I have been told is that they "knock-off" the designs of other companies
to produce their products -- so all their designs are "inspired" by similar products
from the engineers of other companies like, say, Mackie.

so I have been told.  some of their products do look feature-similar to other
offerings from companies like, say, Mackie.

interesting...the salesguy at GC, where i recently bought my Behringer 1604 mixer said the same thing, that they are essentially trying to make a 'Mackie' quality mixer at a lower price point.

dunno.  so far, i'm having good luck with it.  nice price too..

rich
--============_-1219849512==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 12:36:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27797; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:19:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:19:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: RE: my JamMan question. Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:17:00 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <200106110704.DAA06996@hemlock.violacea.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I recall that trying to do AABA on the Jamman gave me the willies--it's quite inflexible in that regard. When I acquired an Echoplex Digital Pro that problem was solved immediately. Is it possible you could get your hands quickly on an EDP? You wouldn't have any problem getting it to work right away--pretty easily done. Even using MIDI, the Jammer just isn't the right tool for what you're trying to do 8>( Gary Lehmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 12:38:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27836; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:20:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:20:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:17:55 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA27749 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: >>Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from other companies as long as the equipment does the job, and that's what it >>looks like you guys are saying. So I think I'll go with the Behringer. =) Has no one mentioned that besides the fact that they 'reverse engineer' their products based on the hard work of others. They also manufacture at least some of their products in China... I believe there's a few ethical dilemmas involved in that particular approach to cutting costs via dirt-cheap, underpaid, sweat shop labor? Food for thought... -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:01:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28603; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:49:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:49:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002601c0f296$4bcfce20$feae1597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <200106102252.PAA19401@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:48:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just not to come back to old discussions - has anyone in here ever heard about the Wilkinson Vs100 Convertible guitar bridge? Wilkinson created it, it could not be a technological masterpiece, but it was useful - a vibrato bridge that you could turn into a fixed bridge just by not using the vibrato arm - I'm still looking around for one of these beasts, as GIBSON decided to sue Wilkinson for copyright infringement, as they claimed that Gibson patented a very similar unit, and asked Wilkinson so much money for the licensig fee that the unit had to be discontinued. And I never found a convertible bridge on a Gibson guitar or on anything they had produced in the last 50 years. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:55 AM Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > sorry to be so cliche ridden,but -knowledge is power-ignorance is bliss-U > get what U pay 4 > > goinloopy > stanner > ---------- > >From: Richard Zvonar > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? > >Date: Sun, Jun 10, 2001, 2:04 PM > > > > >At 10:23 PM +0200 6/10/01, Martin Tauchen wrote: > > > >>If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products > >>were ripped off from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed > >>there in the seventies,a first commercial product-the DX7 was > >>released in 1983. > >>The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and > >>manifested as consumertool in 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. > > > >Not ripped off in these cases. Yamaha has a long-standing set of > >licensing agreements with Stanford, dating to John Chowning's 1975 > >linear FM patent. Physical modeling was similarly licensed from > >Stanford. > > > >I'm not aware of any claims against Yamaha of infringement. In fact, > >my impression of the company is generally positive. They have a good > >reputation for supporting research and education, and I've personally > >found them (and by this I mean the individuals I've dealt with) to be > >cordial and even generous. > > > >In contrast, I have no such warm and fuzzy feelings for the rippers > >of the world, such as Behringer and Fernandes. > > > >That isn't to say there aren't problems. When Yamaha secured patents > >on linear FM applications to musical instrument design, this meant > >that other manufacturers were obliged to either pay them licensing > >fees or cease to use the technique in their own instruments. Some > >smaller manufacturers, such as Buchla, had already been using FM, but > >didn't think to apply for a patent. > > > >Another case that I have problems with is Coda's patents on > >interactive computer music and score following. They struck a deal > >with Roger Dannenberg, who had the foresight to secure a patent in > >1985, and Coda insisted that their patents applied to all score > >following algorithms. Other researchers who had independently arrived > >at score following were in theory obliged to pay Coda for a license. > >-- > > > >______________________________________________________________ > >Richard Zvonar, PhD > >(818) 788-2202 > >http://www.zvonar.com > >http://RZCybernetics.com > >http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:13:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28201; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:36:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:36:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <159Blr-1N1gbQC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> <003401c0f1f0$bddd0ec0$b0ac1597@default> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:25:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i'm gonna chime in here right on the middle of the fence (and take a break from my newly appointed job as list moderator....right....with you crazy folks?). IMO, i don't really see a way out of this ethical fistfight without some really 'new' thought process being brought into the mix. the fusing of new paradigms ('digital duplication', 'generic', 'global economy', etc...) is a such a powerful combination these days. however admirable the opinions are on each side of the fence, IMO, they don't provide a satisfactory answer. should i feel guilty for my new Behringer mixer? for which part? for how they stole the design from Mackie? or for the Chinese labor? Would i have been better to buy the Mackie, for ethical reasons? whew...i don't know how many people do research on ethical electronics production. when i turn to my Black Panel #2 setting on my POD (based off a Black Face Fender Twin Reverb), should i feel some tug in my heart regarding Leo Fender? Pre-CBS, or post? But is Line6 more ethical than Behringer...who just 'stole' the POD idea? I like both Richard Zvonar's thoughts, as well as Italo's. 2cents, the list moderator formerly known as rich >>words of wisdom, Martin!!! They still talk about "ethics" with >>mixers...ridiculous! > >You don't believe in professional ethics? > >If Company A spends a lot of money to design a piece of equipment >and then Company B simply copies the design and sells it at a lower >price, this is OK with you? > >Curious. >-- > >______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:34:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30397; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:14:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:14:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010611171334.40774.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:13:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> it would certainly interest me - i spend alot of time listening to streaming audio and i don't think there can ever be too much of a good thing - a streaming site dedicated to loop based music would be great - count me in (as a listener and possible contributor of music) - harry << Great. Depending on response we'll set up a show. So far you've been the only person to express interest Harry. Best Regards, Bruce __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:41:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30908; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:29:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:29:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001b01c0f27f$32a64620$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:20:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: echo-plus vs.Boss RC-20 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the RC-20 does not have that sort of feedback control, a serious flaw imho. the jamman actually does have that ability, but only through midi in discrete settings. the gibson echoplex has a knob for continuous feedback control. (or you can use midi for the same.) I think the boomerang added some limited jamman-like feedback control in their new 2.0 version. the line6 dl-4 does not offer any feedback control either. kim > Is the RC-20 more like a jam man where you can create a loop and >layer it where if there's a mistake, you stop the loop and start again? >The Echo-plus will let the loop fade out when you release the "infinite >repeat" and lets you punch in a sound at any point during the fading out >of the loop. Does the RC-20 have that "delay pedal" capability? Am very >curious about its 5 minute capabilities though. Thanks--jehn ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:46:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30724; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:22:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:22:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.189.148.4] From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Way OT What is Behringer doing in China? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:21:08 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 17:21:09.0260 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7B41CC0:01C0F29A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Has no one mentioned that besides the fact that they 'reverse engineer' >their products based on the hard work of others. They also manufacture at >least some of their products in China... I believe there's a few ethical >dilemmas involved in that particular approach to cutting costs via >dirt-cheap, underpaid, sweat shop labor? Food for thought... > Yeah it was mentioned, but I'm afraid the presence of goods manufactured in China is nearly ubiquitous now. I'd almost challenge you to see if you can go through any room of your house and not find one or more things that are manufactured in China. Doesn't necessarily make it any better to buy such products but I think its hard to avoid them these days (unless you simply refuse to buy anything that's got a low price tag and even then... I mean Nike shoes aren't exactly cheap) Kevin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:50:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31044; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:33:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:33:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:32:26 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: Way OT What is Behringer doing in China? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA31006 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Miko Biffle wrote... >> Has no one mentioned that besides the fact that they 'reverse engineer' their products based on the hard work of others. They also manufacture at least some of their products in China... I believe there's a few ethical dilemmas involved in that particular approach to cutting costs via dirt-cheap, underpaid, sweat shop labor? Food for thought... > Yeah it was mentioned, but I'm afraid the presence of goods manufactured in China is nearly ubiquitous now. I'd almost challenge you to see if you can go through any room of your house and not find one or more things that are manufactured in China. That's my point... you have to pick and choose before *everything* is manufactured offshore. > Doesn't necessarily make it any better to buy such products but I think its hard to avoid them these days (unless you simply refuse to buy anything that's got a low price tag and even then... I mean Nike shoes aren't exactly cheap) Kevin Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by China. -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 13:57:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30977; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:31:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:31:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "future perfect" To: Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:31:52 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c0f29c$67858f00$3f2f04d1@ij.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002601c0f296$4bcfce20$feae1597@m7w1f4> Resent-Message-ID: <1SL3_B.A.jjH.5AQJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On some of Gibson's lower priced LP's in the 80s, they used a Steinberger-designed tremolo that locked. I am guessing that is where the patent problems were. Also, Trev Wilkenson works for Patrick Eggle/Fret-King Guitars in England- contact them, maybe they will sell ya one. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://www.hazardfactor.com > > Just not to come back to old discussions - has anyone in here > ever heard > about the Wilkinson Vs100 Convertible guitar bridge? > Wilkinson created it, it could not be a technological > masterpiece, but it > was useful - a vibrato bridge that you could turn into a > fixed bridge just > by not using the vibrato arm - I'm still looking around for > one of these > beasts, as GIBSON decided to sue Wilkinson for copyright > infringement, as > they claimed that Gibson patented a very similar unit, and > asked Wilkinson > so much money for the licensig fee that the unit had to be > discontinued. And > I never found a convertible bridge on a Gibson guitar or on > anything they > had produced in the last 50 years. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:07:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31689; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:47:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:47:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <049601c0f29e$9571ed80$e30b6420@vaio> Reply-To: "Kevin Goldsmith" From: "Kevin Goldsmith" To: References: Subject: Re: Musician's Friend Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:28:39 -0700 Organization: Unit Circle Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 17:44:48.0360 (UTC) FILETIME=[358D9680:01C0F29E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks for the mail! I called MF and basically they told me that the orders that they are getting today are pitifully short of the people who ordered them so it looks like some of us won't be getting these units until mid-july or mid-august if we get them at all. This is pretty crappy of them. If I'd known it was going to be an extra month beyond what they told me originally, I would've gotten them at a store instead. Now all the stores are out and I'm stuck hoping I'll get these someday, but I doubt it. Kevin Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:09:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32104; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:56:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:56:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB317@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Way OT What is Behringer doing in China? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:51:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F29F.1EC17290" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F29F.1EC17290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by China. ** kids' toys made by kids in sweatshops . . . disheartening . . . stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F29F.1EC17290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Way OT What is Behringer doing in China?

Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by China.

** kids' toys made by kids in sweatshops . . . disheartening . . .

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F29F.1EC17290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:13:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32075; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:54:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:54:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c0f29f$26ed9480$feae1597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <000101c0f29c$67858f00$3f2f04d1@ij.net> Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:51:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A friend of mine had got one of them - the steinberg trem, just like many other steinbergs had a lever to stop it - pretty impractical compared to the wilkinson one in which you only had to drop the tremolo harm. Thanks for the advice on Trevor Wilkinson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "future perfect" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: RE: What the heck is Behringer doing? > On some of Gibson's lower priced LP's in the 80s, they used a > Steinberger-designed tremolo that locked. I am guessing that is where > the patent problems were. Also, Trev Wilkenson works for Patrick > Eggle/Fret-King Guitars in England- contact them, maybe they will sell > ya one. > > Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices > http://www.hazardfactor.com > > > > > Just not to come back to old discussions - has anyone in here > > ever heard > > about the Wilkinson Vs100 Convertible guitar bridge? > > Wilkinson created it, it could not be a technological > > masterpiece, but it > > was useful - a vibrato bridge that you could turn into a > > fixed bridge just > > by not using the vibrato arm - I'm still looking around for > > one of these > > beasts, as GIBSON decided to sue Wilkinson for copyright > > infringement, as > > they claimed that Gibson patented a very similar unit, and > > asked Wilkinson > > so much money for the licensig fee that the unit had to be > > discontinued. And > > I never found a convertible bridge on a Gibson guitar or on > > anything they > > had produced in the last 50 years. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:20:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00931; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:01:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:01:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010611120514.00932500@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:05:14 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation In-Reply-To: <3B2406AE.1CBF3250@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <2tp0ED.A.fN.YdQJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Joe, I've actually had the same problem with another software package. what I di to solve it was simply to set the bpm of the software to that listed with the loop I wanted to import, and then import it. I then copied the loop into the program's clipboard using the correct numeric start and end points, I.E. if it was a four beat loop, I'd copy from measure 1, beat 1, tick, or subbeat 0, to measure 1, beat 4, tick 119. Obviously, your software's time indexing might be different, but I would think the concept would be the same. Anyway, having done that, I'd then paste the loop after the original, whatever number of times I'd like. Does this make sense? Smiles, G At 07:45 PM 6/10/01 -0400, you wrote: >All- > >Just started using Cubase (3.7). Need help with understanding sample >loops and "parts" in the audio editor. Why when importing a perfect >sample loop from a CD or from my audio editor (Sound Forge 4.5), can I >not get Cubase to loop the audio file perfectly just by butting copies >of the original against one another. There is always an audio pause as >Cubase moves from one copy to the next. Sanity is slipping away. Any >help would be a Godsend... > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:29:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01190; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:09:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:09:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010611140829.00a30ba0@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:10:10 -0400 To: loopers delight From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: nyc gig blurt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_10938377==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: <4ikPo.A.IS.YkQJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_10938377==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed loop til you droop: the pink pony presents another evening with anti:clockwise saturday june 16 10.00 -> 12.00 ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with mystical paintings of light by stimu/syst chris jordan the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston no cover ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_10938377==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
loop til you droop:

the pink pony presents
another evening with

anti:clockwise

saturday june 16
10.00 -> 12.00

ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with
mystical paintings of light by stimu/syst chris jordan

the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston
no cover

++++++++
just what the world needs....
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--=====================_10938377==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:37:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02133; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:31:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:31:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106111829.LAA09557@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:35:34 -0700 Subject: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So, if the ethical aspect of this doesn't bother you how about considering your own interest in quality equipment? If you support company A that did the hard work of research, design, and manufacturing then it is likely that company A will continue to produce excellent products for years to come. If you support company B that does no research or design then, sure, you get good cheap stuff but company A goes out of business and company B then has to find another company to rip off. Cheap stuff with no continuity between products. -Allan At 9:20 PM -0500 6/9/01, Mike Feeney wrote: >Well, I don't mind if they ripped the designs off from >other companies as long as the equipment does the job, >and that's what it looks like you guys are saying. >So I think I'll go with the Behringer. =) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:37:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01799; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:26:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:26:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010611123044.0096ad00@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:30:44 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, etc In-Reply-To: <3B24D119.C1920DCD@home.com> References: <200106111033.GAA13619@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Joe, just to add something which might help, to my last post, in my case, the loops from the CD collection were in perfect time. I could loop them through windows media player, and they looped perfectly. The problem arose when I imported them into the other package. So, at least in my case, there wasn't actually any space at the beginning or end of each loop, it seemed to just be a little fluke with the software or clocks on the soundcard. so you might not have to do all that work. The solution I mentioned in my last post though took care of the problem nicely. The loops then looped perfectly again. anyway, good luck, -hope this helps. Smiles, Goddess At 10:09 AM 6/11/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Subject: Re: Cubase, loops, and desperation >Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:57:34 -0700 >From: >To: >Look closely at the wav to make sure there are no gaps at the ends- but the > issue is probably in the arrange window in Cubase- if the Song is not at the > same tempo of the loop it may not fit perfectly > I think you're right. Now I understand why Acid is such a popular tool, >considering that it performs this operation with far less effort. It looks >like I will have to go back and make sure all my tempos and sample rates >match up before proceeding with this remix. --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:39:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02248; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:34:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:34:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010611123820.00970140@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:38:20 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 In-Reply-To: <20010611171334.40774.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <7F03EB.A.7i.I8QJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Bruce, I'd certainly be interested as well, both in viewing or playing in, such a performance. Have a great day! Smiles, Goddess At 10:13 AM 6/11/01 -0700, you wrote: > >>> it would certainly interest me - i spend alot of >time listening to streaming >audio and i don't think there can ever be too much of >a good thing - a >streaming site dedicated to loop based music would be >great - count me in (as >a listener and possible contributor of music) - harry ><< > >Great. Depending on response we'll set up a show. So >far you've been the only person to express interest >Harry. > >Best Regards, >Bruce > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 >a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 14:40:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02319; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:36:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:36:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002801c0f2a5$e01b8740$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <000101c0f29c$67858f00$3f2f04d1@ij.net> <000901c0f29f$26ed9480$feae1597@m7w1f4> Subject: OT: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:39:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <33h8vC.A.4j.p-QJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I understand and support the concern- but I must say- not every person in China is a commie human rights abuser out for blood- they are real people with real needs and feelings etc- I don't think blocking out the entire country is a complete answer- just a thought to possibly temper the argument a bit- C From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 15:58:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05623; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:35:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:35:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Dylan B DeAnda" To: Subject: RE: nyc gig blurt Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:34:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0274_01C0F272.D2F6B130" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010611140829.00a30ba0@mail.pdfsystems.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0274_01C0F272.D2F6B130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know of any good performances in the San Fran area? Thanks for the info. D Thanks and Best Regards, Dylan B. DeAnda dylan@loudcloud.com 408-744-7678 -----Original Message----- From: anti:clockwise [mailto:anticlockwise@tensionheadache.org] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:10 AM To: loopers delight Subject: nyc gig blurt loop til you droop: the pink pony presents another evening with anti:clockwise saturday june 16 10.00 -> 12.00 ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with mystical paintings of light by stimu/syst chris jordan the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston no cover ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url ------=_NextPart_000_0274_01C0F272.D2F6B130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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loop til you droop:

the pink pony presents
another evening with

anti:clockwise

saturday june 16
10.00 -> 12.00

ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with
mystical paintings of light by stimu/syst chris jordan

the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston
no cover


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------=_NextPart_000_0274_01C0F272.D2F6B130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 16:53:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08313; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:37:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:37:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: San Francisco gig blurt Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:36:29 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 20:36:30.0022 (UTC) FILETIME=[31D27660:01C0F2B6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: "Dylan B DeAnda" > >Anyone know of any good performances in the San Fran area? > >Thanks for the info. > >D I just mentioned this last week, but thanks for giving me the opening to post it again, both as a reminder and also because I'll be trying something new with this performance. I'll be doing a live improvisation show at Kimo's at 9 this wednesday (6/13). I'll be using a turntable, CD player, radio, and cassette player with some real-time sampling/looping devices to create unlikely (but hopefully beautiful) music. I'll also be adding some live television sounds to the mix, with the use of a simple invention of mine called the "signal glove". My performance will be 100% recycled content. There will be no drum machines or basslines. Kimo's is located at the corner of Polk street and Pine. My set is between Lambskin 13 (an electro-noise group) at 8, and Plum (a solo sax guy) at 10. Best, Matt Davignon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 17:46:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10793; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:24:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:24:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106112123.RAA10750@hemlock.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:23:47 +0200 Subject: Yes Man! (was: AABA on JamMan) From: "Frank Bilsen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Here is a happy man! Listening to his AABA-loops made on the JamMan. Thanks folks (Rick, Dan, Gary, D.t/s-c) for all the advice you gave me. It made me think things over in a logical way and finally my first ideas turned out to be the best. Now, instead of being just a lurker on this list, I finally can contribute something to loopers with a Jamman. For those who are interested, I'll describe things below. Kim, maybe if you think it can be useful, you could put it on the JamMan pages of the Loopers-site?! I could make a midifile and send it to you, downloadable for us all. Just let me know. Here is what I did: "How to make AABA loops on the JamMan using Midi" 1. Download the midifile and get it into your Midi-sequencer. Channel 1 is reserved for program-change commands (CUES), TAP-commands and LAYER-commands. Channel 10 is reserved for a clicktrack (Agogo-bells in a General Midi setup). Put the tempo to 60 or more. 2. Do *not* use the normal clicktrack generated by your sequencer. The JamMan is a little lazy, so in order to get smooth transitions between loops it is essential that you fool yourself by listening to a pushy click, which you will find on channel 10. I actually shifted it 70 midi-clocks forward. You'd probably just need it for the first 2 AABA's, then you could put your headphones off. 3. Connect any Midi-device (master) that can send Midi-clock to the Midi-in of the JamMan (slave). You should see the tempo-light start flickering like hell. Good. 4. Put the MODE knob into Phrased Loop with 16 Midi-quarter notes. 5. Check your MIX and OUTPUT settings, then lower the INPUT knob all the way down to zero. 6. Start your sequencer from the beginning. A *silent* Loop 1 is recorded and then "played". Loop 2 is cued and "recorded". While loop 2 is "playing" silently, turn up the input knob to a good level and prepare to play. 7. Play your first A (8 bars). 8. Listen to your second A, which starts automatically and prepare to play. 9. Play your B. 10. Listen to your third A and prepare to go back to step 6. 11. Groove! With love from Holland! Frank -- The Music Lab Frank Bilsen Timmermanswerf 6 1474 JL Oosthuizen Netherlands tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 fax: 0299-404834 e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl site: http://home.planet.nl/~musiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:07:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13979; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:46:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:46:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <36.17205cf7.2856a3cc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:44:28 EDT Subject: Re: echo-plus vs.Boss RC-20 + rang To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_36.17205cf7.2856a3cc_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <_bVbQD.A.6ZD.unUJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_36.17205cf7.2856a3cc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 1:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kflint@loopers-delight.com writes: > I think the boomerang added > "no decay (infinite repeat)" "original decay, very long (over 20 repeats)" "long (about 12 repeats)" "medium long (about 9 repeats)" "medium (about 6 repeats" "short (about 4 repeats)" "slapback, 1 repeat only" kim.....if we are on the same page.....these are the "feedback" (decay rate) settings on the rang 2.0....."limited jamman-like", i dont know.....michael p.s. one can never have enuf of the loopers --part1_36.17205cf7.2856a3cc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 1:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kflint@loopers-delight.com writes:


I think the boomerang added
some limited jamman-like feedback control in their new 2.0 version.


"no decay (infinite repeat)"
"original decay, very long (over 20 repeats)"
"long (about 12 repeats)"
"medium long (about 9 repeats)"
"medium (about 6 repeats"
"short (about 4 repeats)"
"slapback, 1 repeat only"

kim.....if we are on the same page.....these are the "feedback" (decay rate)
settings on the rang 2.0....."limited jamman-like", i dont know.....michael
p.s. one can never have enuf of the loopers --part1_36.17205cf7.2856a3cc_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:15:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15302; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:00:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:00:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.162d53e7.2856a75f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:59:43 EDT Subject: Re: Way OT What is Looper's Delite doing in China? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7a.162d53e7.2856a75f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_7a.162d53e7.2856a75f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 1:33:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mike.Biffle@asml.com writes: > Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by > China. > > isnt it true that they are the largest "english" speaking country in the world?.....michael --part1_7a.162d53e7.2856a75f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 1:33:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Mike.Biffle@asml.com writes:

Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by
China.

-Miko


isnt it true that they are the largest "english" speaking country in the
world?.....michael --part1_7a.162d53e7.2856a75f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:26:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15447; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:04:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:04:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11c.273a61.2856a843@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:03:31 EDT Subject: Re: nyc gig blurt To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11c.273a61.2856a843_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_11c.273a61.2856a843_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 2:09:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, anticlockwise@tensionheadache.org writes: > ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with > how could you say no!.....michael --part1_11c.273a61.2856a843_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 2:09:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
anticlockwise@tensionheadache.org writes:


ongoing envirotainment for vibe-ro-loungers, with
mystical paintings of light


how could you say no!.....michael --part1_11c.273a61.2856a843_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:37:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16320; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:25:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:25:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: <66.1019adfa.2856ad53@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:25:07 EDT Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_66.1019adfa.2856ad53_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_66.1019adfa.2856ad53_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please keep me apprised - harry --part1_66.1019adfa.2856ad53_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please keep me apprised - harry --part1_66.1019adfa.2856ad53_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:39:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16462; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:29:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:29:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Way OT What is Looper's Delite doing in China? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:27:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 23:27:59.0073 (UTC) FILETIME=[26930D10:01C0F2CE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes. >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Way OT What is Looper's Delite doing in China? >Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:59:43 EDT > >In a message dated 6/11/01 1:33:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >Mike.Biffle@asml.com writes: > > > Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated >by > > China. > > > > > >isnt it true that they are the largest "english" speaking country in the >world?.....michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:45:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16918; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:40:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:40:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c0f2cf$ae9498e0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <66.1019adfa.2856ad53@aol.com> Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:38:50 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F2D8.0CA56EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F2D8.0CA56EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ditto, I'm on ArtistLanch already...! One of the better alternatives to = mp3.com if you ask me. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: HarryEsq@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: 12 June 2001 00:25 AM Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220=20 please keep me apprised - harry=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F2D8.0CA56EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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please keep me apprised - = harry=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F2D8.0CA56EC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 19:49:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16549; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:31:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:31:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:30:35 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: Way OT What is Looper's Delite doing in China? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id TAA16511 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mike.Biffle@asml.com writes: >> Try buying children's toys these days... it's almost entirely dominated by China. > isnt it true that they are the largest "english" speaking country in the world?.....michael We may have to go there to find decent jobs when our local businesses all go under do to the competition! Glad they talk the talk... -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 20:08:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18722; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:03:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:03:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B255BC5.FC437EF1@zerocrossing.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:01:08 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: my JamMan question. References: <200106110704.DAA06996@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com very simple. The JamMan is incapable of making loops of different lengths. Mark Sottilaro The Music Lab wrote: > Hi there! > > Okay, I know, the JamMan is not the newest looping device around, but many > of us are still using it and feeling happy about it. I just recently got > mine, so I am pretty new to looping. Also I have basically just been lurking > on the loopers-delight list. Last thursday I have posted to the list with > some questions about trying to make an AABA scheme on the JamMan. So far, > nobody replied. I understand that maybe I am asking to much, but I am > dedicated to make it work in some way. More stupid even is the fact that > I've committed myself to do an AABA-style loop performance next wednesday, > here in Holland, without even getting things right technically...yes: > stupid! So you guys out there, being a really dedicated looping-community, > please be so kind to help me out on this one!! Thanks so much, > > Frank > > Below are my JamMan questions: > > I am trying to play an AABA scheme with my JamMan (32 sec.), but I am not > succesful so far. > > I would like to record loop 1 (the first A) as follows: 4 bars in tempo 60 > with 16 midi quarter notes in punch in loop mode, actually resulting in a 8 > bars loop in tempo 120 with 32 quarter notes). Then loop 1 should be > repeated (no layering, just playing) to form the second A. After that loop 2 > should be recorded to form the B. Finally our first loop 1 comes back to > form the third A. So this would buid an AABA scheme, which I would like to > repeat a couple of times, each time adding new sounds to the first A and the > B. > > I've tried to do this with the sequencer being the master and the Jamman as > a slave. I am programming in Logic on my Mac.I would like to copy the final > sequence in Logic to a stand alone sequencer (Yamaha QY70) which I could > take with me on stage to drive the JamMan. I would like to use a headphone > with a clicktrack for the first 2 or 3 choruses. > I have found out that after recording the B (loop 2), there is no way of > cuing the JamMan in order to continue playing loop 1 straight away. It wants > to play loop 2 first. Well Okay....in that case I've decided to first get > both loops in the Jamman by lowering the input knob to zero and start the > sequencer. I programmed a Tap on the first beat of bar1 and it records loop > 1 (4 bars, tempo 60), it plays loop1 and then goes into recording loop 2 > with the same lenght. I let play loop 2 (which is silent, since the input > knob is on zero) and raise the input knob to a good level. I cue loop 1 and > start playing my instrument and recording my first A. It then starts playing > the second A, I cue loop2 and sometimes it goes into record mode and > sometimes not. Then things are getting messy and out of sync. I've tried > dozens of diffent Tap commands but the JamMan just does what it likes. > MY JAMMAN-SLAVE QUESTIONS: > *is there someone who has already made a midi-file which can do an AABA > scheme? > *Could I record a click and then shift it forward to sound in sync. Will > there be any cutoffs on my recordings? > > So, not being succesful I want to try and use the JamMan as the master > controlling the sequencer. Before I spend another 20 hours on finding out > how to do this, could someone tell me the secret??? > > Thanks for reading all this. Help greatly appreciated! > > Frank Bilsen > > -- > The Music Lab > Frank Bilsen > Netherlands > tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 > fax: 0299-404834 > e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl > site: http://welcome.to/themusiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 22:01:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA23186; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:59:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:59:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010611200324.007cc280@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:03:24 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: echo-plus vs.Boss RC-20 + rang In-Reply-To: <36.17205cf7.2856a3cc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Actually, if this is what it does, it's quite a bit more than the Jam-Man which only has three levels of decay. short, medium, and long. I'm not sure about the actual number of repeats. anyway, -just a little FYI... Smiles, G At 06:44 PM 6/11/01 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 6/11/01 1:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >kflint@loopers-delight.com writes: > > >I think the boomerang added >some limited jamman-like feedback control in their new 2.0 version. > > >"no decay (infinite repeat)" >"original decay, very long (over 20 repeats)" >"long (about 12 repeats)" >"medium long (about 9 repeats)" >"medium (about 6 repeats" >"short (about 4 repeats)" >"slapback, 1 repeat only" > >kim.....if we are on the same page.....these are the "feedback" (decay rate) >settings on the rang 2.0....."limited jamman-like", i dont know.....michael >p.s. one can never have enuf of the loopers --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 11 22:05:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23343; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:04:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:04:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: Applause {Long; was RE: Yes Man! (was: AABA on JamMan)} Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:03:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200106112123.RAA10750@hemlock.violacea.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My hat is off to you for this accomplishment--it sounds like a lot of trouble, but the important thing is that you can do it, in time for your gig--might wanna check out another looper at some point, however. Congratulations! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bilsen [mailto:musiclab@planet.nl] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Yes Man! (was: AABA on JamMan) Here is a happy man! Listening to his AABA-loops made on the JamMan. Thanks folks (Rick, Dan, Gary, D.t/s-c) for all the advice you gave me. It made me think things over in a logical way and finally my first ideas turned out to be the best. Now, instead of being just a lurker on this list, I finally can contribute something to loopers with a Jamman. For those who are interested, I'll describe things below. Kim, maybe if you think it can be useful, you could put it on the JamMan pages of the Loopers-site?! I could make a midifile and send it to you, downloadable for us all. Just let me know. Here is what I did: "How to make AABA loops on the JamMan using Midi" 1. Download the midifile and get it into your Midi-sequencer. Channel 1 is reserved for program-change commands (CUES), TAP-commands and LAYER-commands. Channel 10 is reserved for a clicktrack (Agogo-bells in a General Midi setup). Put the tempo to 60 or more. 2. Do *not* use the normal clicktrack generated by your sequencer. The JamMan is a little lazy, so in order to get smooth transitions between loops it is essential that you fool yourself by listening to a pushy click, which you will find on channel 10. I actually shifted it 70 midi-clocks forward. You'd probably just need it for the first 2 AABA's, then you could put your headphones off. 3. Connect any Midi-device (master) that can send Midi-clock to the Midi-in of the JamMan (slave). You should see the tempo-light start flickering like hell. Good. 4. Put the MODE knob into Phrased Loop with 16 Midi-quarter notes. 5. Check your MIX and OUTPUT settings, then lower the INPUT knob all the way down to zero. 6. Start your sequencer from the beginning. A *silent* Loop 1 is recorded and then "played". Loop 2 is cued and "recorded". While loop 2 is "playing" silently, turn up the input knob to a good level and prepare to play. 7. Play your first A (8 bars). 8. Listen to your second A, which starts automatically and prepare to play. 9. Play your B. 10. Listen to your third A and prepare to go back to step 6. 11. Groove! With love from Holland! Frank -- The Music Lab Frank Bilsen Timmermanswerf 6 1474 JL Oosthuizen Netherlands tel: +31 299 404823 or +31 6 54226182 fax: 0299-404834 e-mail: musiclab@planet.nl site: http://home.planet.nl/~musiclab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 05:12:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08036; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:09:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:09:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <107.128c981.28573611@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:08:33 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So why are people really down on Behringer? There's no evidence as to how they treat their Chinese employees. And there doesn't appear to be a proven case of them ripping off circuits that weren't public domain. Seems to me that they try to make products that are either similar to something already on the market, but improved. (Ok, and/or cheaper). Seems to me that Mackie enjoyed an inflated reputation prior to Behringer, I tried their mixers and thought they were just another cheapo variety. after Behringer they've redesigned their products, (claiming a massive improvement in pre-amp quality) I'd call this healthy competition. It seemed that after Behringer introduced compressors with auto-settng that a whole load of other companies copied them, they've also produced gear with no equivalents elsewhere. Not that I'm pro-Behringer (apart from buying some of their stuff), but I'm interested as to why they are picked out as being particularly unethical as compared to other companies (Lexicon MPX100 "made in PRC") Well if they do ever bring out a looper????? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 06:31:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA12414; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:29:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:29:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-230.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.230] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010612123018.00799100@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:30:18 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: sync plex question In-Reply-To: <001601c0f23b$692ca660$fc518218@we.mediaone.net> References: <3B2406AE.1CBF3250@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <0q8R-D.A.oBD.F7eJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:57 p.m. 10/06/01 -0700, you wrote: i'd like to know which computer based setup are some of you using to sync with the plex. thanks in advance, Junkie G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 07:58:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16184; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:55:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:55:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c0f336$dc6ba6c0$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:57:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gee, hope this isn't too far off topic, but where did all of the san francisco music-makers go? Jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "matt davignon" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:36 PM Subject: San Francisco gig blurt > >From: "Dylan B DeAnda" > > > >Anyone know of any good performances in the San Fran area? > > > >Thanks for the info. > > > >D > > I just mentioned this last week, but thanks for giving me the opening to > post it again, both as a reminder and also because I'll be trying something > new with this performance. > > I'll be doing a live improvisation show at Kimo's at 9 this wednesday > (6/13). I'll be using a turntable, CD player, radio, and cassette player > with some real-time sampling/looping devices to create unlikely (but > hopefully beautiful) music. I'll also be adding some live television sounds > to the mix, with the use of a simple invention of mine called the "signal > glove". My performance will be 100% recycled content. There will be no drum > machines or basslines. > > Kimo's is located at the corner of Polk street and Pine. My set is between > Lambskin 13 (an electro-noise group) at 8, and Plum (a solo sax guy) at 10. > > Best, > > Matt Davignon > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 09:30:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21094; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:26:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:26:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:26:28 -0500 Subject: gig spam: Shrub Monkeys play BWAC pier show closing party Sat June 16 Red Hook, Brooklyn, NY From: Paul Sullivan To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As stated above, list members Paul Sullivan (guitars, boomerang, dl-4, echo plus, etc.) and David Weeks (saxophones, dl-4, etc.) together with drummer Don Peretz, collectively known as Shrub Monkeys, will be playing at the Brooklyn Working Artists Coalition pier show closing party this Saturday night, June 16, from 5 to 8 pm. The music is original, improvised jazz/ambient with significant loopage. This is the 9th year of the BWAC pier show, where hundreds of local artists exhibit their work in a huge civil-war era warehouse on the waterfront in Red Hook, Brooklyn. Come early to check out the artwork, the beautiful view from the promenade with a birds-eye view of the Statue of Liberty, and stay for the music, auction, raffles, food and drink, etc. Admission is free. For directions and more info, go to Hope to see some local list members! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 10:33:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25400; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:31:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:31:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:30:05 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <90.15a7fd6f.2857816d@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com There's some interesting stuff on Behringer at the following website. Just do a search on Behringer when there. There are some interesting posts regarding the lawsuit Aphex vs Behringer and lots of other interesting comments. http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/deja_announcement.html Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 11:08:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27989; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:06:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:06:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010612110424.009726e0@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: floyd@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:06:08 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: Random Music Generator Software Questions In-Reply-To: <6e.b232173.284c5129@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <3h4AKB.A.40G.j_iJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:49 PM 6/3/01 -0400, pascal wrote: >Hi Everybody! > >I've recently gotten into using random music generator software with my >rather exxtravagent loop collection to create noisey/chaotic music. I've >been using Sound Raider and this program Saiko. I have two questions. > >1) Does anyone know of any good random and interactive music generators? http://www.metasynth.com/ for Macintosh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 11:23:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28618; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:15:09 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Behringer In-reply-to: <107.128c981.28573611@aol.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <107.128c981.28573611@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 5:08 AM -0400 6/12/01, SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: >So why are people really down on Behringer? >There's no evidence as to how they treat their Chinese employees. >And there doesn't appear to be a proven case of them ripping >off circuits that weren't public domain. I refer you to a letter from Marvin Caesar, founder and president of Aphex. According to Caesar, the Aphex Aural Exciter was the first product design Behringer ripped off, right down to copying the manual. Aphex's suit against Behringer was indeed settled in court, in Aphex's favor: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=behringer&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rnum=2&ic=1&selm=7f5aop%24ukk%241%40nnrp1.dejanews.com -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 11:54:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30185; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:49:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:49:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <107.128c981.28573611@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:46:50 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Behringer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA30140 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From: Richard Zvonar >At 5:08 AM -0400 6/12/01, SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: >>So why are people really down on Behringer? >>There's no evidence as to how they treat their Chinese employees. >>And there doesn't appear to be a proven case of them ripping >>off circuits that weren't public domain. > >I refer you to a letter from Marvin Caesar, founder and president of >Aphex. According to Caesar, the Aphex Aural Exciter was the first >product design Behringer ripped off, right down to copying the >manual. Aphex's suit against Behringer was indeed settled in court, >in Aphex's favor: > >http://groups.google.com/groups?q=behringer&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rnum=2 >&ic=1&selm=7f5aop%24ukk%241%40nnrp1.dejanews.com This article is pretty shocking. >The manual, being so blatant a copy, caused people >who bought the Behringer copy to call our distributor in Germany for service. > >Behringer's attack on our products >was not limited to the Aural Exciter. He tried to copy our 612 gate. He could >not get our VCA so he used the VCA that we had used previously. We had to use >a heat spreader on our new VCA which was not necessary on the previous >design. Behringer glued a useless piece of metal on his VCA's showing that he >either did not understand what was going on in the unit, only making a poor >copy of it, or he simply tried to copy as exactly as possible. He also copied >our manual- page for page, illustration for illustration. The court >immediately issued an order for him to stop and reimbursed us for our legal >fees. that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 12:22:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32451; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:18:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:18:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:15:08 +0200 Subject: Re: Behringer From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA32404 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I can not follow the arguments to beat on Behringer,like it is an ugly alien. Ethics in buisiness is already a question for itself wich could lead us to endless debates.A so called infinity loop. But we should realize,that each buisiness affair of the western world has a bunch full of ethical problems.Especially the relation between the so called "first(western world) to the "Third world" has massive ethical problems.In short it could be said,that the western world rips of most re- sources of the "third world" for really a cheap and shameless money.From this resources the "First world" makes products wich it sells itself to the own group,but also for an highly amount price back to the "Third World".Most people there can not afford these products.Problematic and mostly egoistic gouverments of the "Third World" prefer it to buy from the "first world" weaponary. The poor and powerless labour in each country is not of interest to them.SO why can it be,that cheap medecine(for the western world) is still not affordable for the labour in the "third world". This is really an ethical problem. It makes also no sense to lower down the prices for the "third world",maybe their gouverments(wich are mostly corrupt) would maybe reimport them to the western world.Cheaper as the original price for the western world,but with a high profit for the "Third world gouverment".From this win,they buy again weaponary. It makes also no sense to wish China to Hell.The political system there is also only overlayed structure and display.But so called democracies of the third world are political different displayed as China.But the daily life of the poor labour has the same quality in both systems. It makes no sense to boykott China and let the Phillipines take part on the global market. The situation for the poor labour is in both systems the same.Because they are not part of the "First World"-wich is merely dominated by the angloamerican,westeuropean and japanese society. 10% of the human citizens controls and uses 90% of the earth ressources. Where is here the ethic ? And from an ecological view,where is the ethic of the US,when they avoid to sign the Agenda21 of Kyoto ? We all know,that all this dirt form the "first world" will be flushed down to the third world.With all its negative aspects. What has this all to do with Behringer ? At least not much,but also all.Behringer is a part of the "first world" system. But to mention,that Behringer is a copycat company wich only rips of the poor "Mackie" is a fairy tale for children.There we need always a "bad" character. In this story is to much black and white tracing and far away from reality. Well,I know much better Mixing Consoles as Mackies.Mackie is in my eyes also a cheapo producer. The way how an mixing console works is already explained and described for a long time.So this knowledge is a kind of Public Domain.Like a traditional song,where no one knows who was its first author. Designing a mixing console is a creative work.But at least it is also a patchwork.Or does Mackie produces the Faders with a special patent ? Not like that,they buy maybe ALP Faders or an equalizer unit from Phillips.Just and example.....And at least the resistors inside will come from all over the world. Form this ingredients they develop their own receipt and assemble the console. Behringer does it the same.But both companies do not start from Zero to reinvent the Mixing Console. Behringer looks how Mackie designed the Console.Like Mackie inverstigated from other companies products how to make a good design.I call this more Influencing and inspiration.But not ripping. Important is,how this companies operate in the buisiness.Behringer in the low cost market and Mackie one storage up of Behringer. Both companies have to make compromises.Behringer more as Mackie.But this is more an economic question depending on the Endprices. I don´t speak here about Quality of the products.I don´t use wether Behringer nor Mackie Mixing Consoles.Both are in my ears cheapo,but for the ones who can use them-and I am sure they are both usable-it is OK.That I use an uper class console was my subjective decision,that this one fits to me. The only thing wich makes me a little upset,is the direction where such commentaris about Behringer points to.It is not fair,tho throw with stones on one company and to praise up the other to heaven.Like an innocent Madonna...This is to far away from realism. Mackie also ripped a lot of other companies products.But this is no reason to damm them. They got inspired and influenced by those companies.There is nothing wrong in such practice. A mixing console nothing new or something wich needs special protection.The shematic is already clear.And most consoles work and look like all the others. And at least,to offer more low cost products,Mackie could go the same or similiar way like Behringer. I guess the managment of Mackie does not trace it as "Ethical Problem" if Behringer gets some inspiration of Mackie.It is only a marketing and operating problemn for them. Marty ---------- >Von: SoundFNR@aol.com >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: Behringer >Datum: Die, 12. Jun 2001 11:08 Uhr > >So why are people really down on Behringer? >There's no evidence as to how they treat their Chinese employees. >And there doesn't appear to be a proven case of them ripping >off circuits that weren't public domain. > > >Seems to me that they try to make products >that are either similar to something already on the market, >but improved. (Ok, and/or cheaper). > >Seems to me that Mackie enjoyed an inflated reputation >prior to Behringer, I tried their mixers and thought >they were just another cheapo variety. > >after Behringer they've redesigned their products, >(claiming a massive improvement in pre-amp quality) >I'd call this healthy competition. > > >It seemed that after Behringer introduced compressors >with auto-settng that a whole load of other >companies copied them, they've also produced >gear with no equivalents elsewhere. > >Not that I'm pro-Behringer (apart from buying some of their stuff), >but I'm interested as to why they are picked out as >being particularly unethical as compared to other companies >(Lexicon MPX100 "made in PRC") > >Well if they do ever bring out a looper????? > >andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 12:40:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00686; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:37:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:37:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005c01c0f370$1fd7d8a0$f99a46cf@txucom.net> From: "T. Peirce Baker" To: Subject: Behringer Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:47:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01C0F335.72F2B9A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C0F335.72F2B9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How long is this gonna go on?!?! We all have something in our racks = whose source of technology is questionable. It's rampant and always has = been. geez ever had dealings with a major label? ethics? pleeez Can we = just acknowledge it's there and move on with the music? Every time one = of us comes up with an original riff, song, whatever, a close variation = or exact note or rhythm place has already been performed by someone = else!=20 As far as I am concerned Behringer's problems are theirs not mine. I = just wanna rock.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C0F335.72F2B9A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How long is this gonna go on?!?! We all = have=20 something in our racks whose source of technology is questionable. It's = rampant=20 and always has been. geez ever had dealings with a major label? ethics? = pleeez=20 Can we just acknowledge it's there and move on with the music? Every = time one of=20 us comes up with an original riff, song, whatever, a close variation or = exact=20 note or rhythm place has already been performed by someone else! =
As far as I am concerned Behringer's = problems are=20 theirs not mine. I just wanna rock. 
------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C0F335.72F2B9A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:01:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01448; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:57:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:57:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> References: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:48:36 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Behringer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Designing a mixing console is a creative work.But at least it is also a >patchwork.Or does Mackie >produces the Faders with a special patent ? Not like that,they buy maybe ALP >Faders or an equalizer >unit from Phillips.Just and example.....And at least the resistors inside >will come from all over >the world. >Form this ingredients they develop their own receipt and assemble the >console. That is true of ANY device, computer program, even song that you create, but it doesn't render your intellectual property valueless. >Behringer does it the same.But both companies do not start from Zero to >reinvent the Mixing Console. >Behringer looks how Mackie designed the Console.Like Mackie inverstigated >from other companies >products how to make a good design.I call this more Influencing and >inspiration.But not ripping. Let me explain this in terms of a song. If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix, that's perfect acceptable. BUT, if I try to release a recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from Hendrix' estate. In the same way, making a mixer that "works like" a Mackie is perfectly OK, ethically and legally. That's how innovation occurs, you copy the *features* that other people introduce and improve on them. But copying the specific *design* of the mixer is totally different. That's theft! That's like reprinting Purple Haze as your song! In the Behringer case, they not only copied the design in every point, they even copied mistakes and unnecessary parts, so they didn't even bothed to figure out HOW it worked properly. It's like covering a Hendrix tune and coughing when he did because you have no idea that the cough isn't part of the song because you just stole it. >Mackie also ripped a lot of other companies products.But this is no reason >to damm them. It sure is if they did. Do tell us details? >They got inspired and influenced by those companies.There is nothing wrong >in such practice. Right, there is nothing wrong with being inspired and being influenced by some other product. Behringer is essentially photocopying the works of others. A totally different issue! >And at least,to offer more low cost products,Mackie could go the same or >similiar way like >Behringer. The point is that since Mackie has to pay a LOT of money to get the designs made, if Behringer does NOT, then Behringer will ALWAYS be able to sell their products a lot cheaper than Mackie. For example, suppose you released a CD and someone else released the same CD just by copying yours! Since their only costs are the reproduction, whereas you have to pay the studio costs, musicians, gear, and your own time, they can certainly sell your CD a lot cheaper than you can. So, why shouldn't I just get the CD from them? ----- For some reason this argument has broken down into US vs rest of the world and I can't quite see why. I'm not an American myself, and there are plenty of foreign musical companies that are beacons of creativity to us all (Yamaha, TC, Waldorf without even thinking). But it's clear to me and should have nothing to do with country boundaries: it's perfectly OK to be inspired by the work of others. to make a perfect, mindless copy of the work of others is theft. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:12:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02904; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:09:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:09:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:04:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: sorry (was Re: Behringer) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com this really had nothing to do with looping. sorry. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:28:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03400; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:22:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:22:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006a01c0f363$fad5c780$a3b41597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <159qqw-1K87fMC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:20:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <_Tg0wB.A.V0.t-kJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com List...... seriously looping on this Behringer thread!!! Please Damon...put out Repeater or we die here!!! ;-) Italoop From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:30:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03574; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:27:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:27:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:26:46 -0400 From: "Lily & Jason" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: neutral.milk.hotel@eudoramail.com X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: For Sale: Stick and VG8 X-Sender-Ip: 132.239.188.61 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com FOR SALE: (1) 12-string Grand Stick (15 months old) in mint/like new condition. Tuned to the Standard 6+6 tuning, with heavy gauge strings. Fitted with the active Block pickup module (which was a $180 addition) & a GK2A customized Roland MIDI interface system on the melody side (a $460 addition). Also includes BOTH a hardcase and a gig bag. New, this package would run someone $2650 before tax ($2868 with California sales tax). Yours for $1800 plus shipping. (2) VG8 with expansion card and gig bag. $400 plus shipping. --- Jason & Lily Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:31:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03405; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:22:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:22:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010612172212.50162.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:22:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: dave@artistlaunch.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Stephen, thanks for the endorsement. We need as many loopers as possible to sustain a show. As things are going I may just have a special broadcast monthly or some other time interval. I will keep everyone informed. Bruce From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 Ditto, I'm on ArtistLanch already...! One of the better alternatives to mp3.com if you ask me. ----- Original Message ----- From: HarryEsq@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: 12 June 2001 00:25 AM Subject: Re: looper broadcast, was EMUSIC Playlist #220 please keep me apprised - harry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 13:59:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04717; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:58:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:58:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2658DE.E971AE01@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:01:04 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com matt davignon wrote: > ...I'll also be adding some live television sounds > to the mix, with the use of a simple invention of mine called the "signal > glove". My performance will be 100% recycled content. There will be no drum > machines or basslines. > > Kimo's is located at the corner of Polk street and Pine. My set is between > Lambskin 13 (an electro-noise group) at 8, and Plum (a solo sax guy) at > 10... sounds great, matt. good luck! lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 14:47:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07112; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:45:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:45:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010612184510.55912.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:45:10 -0700 (PDT) From: pete brunelli Subject: FS: Rockman Midipedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <9t4sr.A.-uB.3MmJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Loopers, I have a nice clean Rockman Midipedal for sale. Built Like a tank and sends all 128 program change commands on all 16 channels. I haven't used it in a while, so off it goes to a more attentive home. No Wall-Wart! 120V all the way. see http://www.synthony.com/vintage/rockmnmidipdl.html for a description, and http://home.dal.net/pcb/apix/rmanmidi.jpg for a jpeg of the actual unit. $150 shipped in ConUSA Pete Brunelli __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 14:54:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07406; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:53:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:53:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Sender: simran@phys-ha2mpka-16.Eng.Sun.COM Message-ID: <3B2664F7.72B23350@Sun.COM> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:52:39 -0700 From: Simran gleason Reply-To: Simran.Gleason@Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76C-CCK-MCD Netscape [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: simran@Sun.COM Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK, now I get to chiime in with a gig spam. This one is a little more than 24 hours before Matt's performance at Kimo's. Inkstone and Mixtape from Mars vs the BurningMan precompression show at the Exploratorium. Every year about this time, YLEM, our local art & technology organization puts on a show of (some of) the art that happens at BurningMan. There will be lectures; there will be slide shows; there will probably be videos; there will be crowds and perhapshem (one notch down from mayhem?) This all happens at the exploratorium, at the McBean theatre (i.e. not quite enough seats for the roiling crowd). And before, between, and after, I will be playing music along with random members of my band "Mixtape From Mars." I will have my loopers set up through my battery-powered sound system featuring the PAliens -- they're PA speakers; they're alien sculptures. I have to warn y'all, though: I acquired a vocoder in the recent electrix fiasco at guitar center, so I'm now considered armed & dangerous. Simran stats: Exploratorium, by the palace of fine arts, San Francisco tuesday june 12. 7 pm to 11:30 pm. I'm playing before, at intermission, and afterwards. yee haW! > > Gee, hope this isn't too far off topic, but where did all of the san > francisco music-makers go? > > Jehn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "matt davignon" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:36 PM > Subject: San Francisco gig blurt > > > > >From: "Dylan B DeAnda" > > > > > >Anyone know of any good performances in the San Fran area? > > > > > >Thanks for the info. > > > > > >D > > > > I just mentioned this last week, but thanks for giving me the opening to > > post it again, both as a reminder and also because I'll be trying > something > > new with this performance. > > > > I'll be doing a live improvisation show at Kimo's at 9 this wednesday > > (6/13). I'll be using a turntable, CD player, radio, and cassette player > > with some real-time sampling/looping devices to create unlikely (but > > hopefully beautiful) music. I'll also be adding some live television > sounds > > to the mix, with the use of a simple invention of mine called the "signal > > glove". My performance will be 100% recycled content. There will be no > drum > > machines or basslines. > > > > Kimo's is located at the corner of Polk street and Pine. My set is between > > Lambskin 13 (an electro-noise group) at 8, and Plum (a solo sax guy) at > 10. > > > > Best, > > > > Matt Davignon > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 14:57:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07542; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:55:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:55:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQnbR5Xyugt7GkqJtPMRoeAG7MPEwIUZdapzXfWE8wSmvrjlNTX+80y8Jk= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:54:52 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: my JamMan question. Message-ID: <10102-3B26657C-2655@storefull-615.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Mark Sottilaro 's message of Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:01:08 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In reference to " The Jam Man is incapable of making loops of different lengths...." One thought. WE are capable of playing "loops" of different lengths - and as importantly - of contributing silence at the end of shorter loops until they fill out the longer length of the longest loop in which we are playing all the way through. Now, I know this won't always be helpful - but it will be in some cases. What I am saying is this: The longest loop you need will invariably ( on the Jam Man, anyway) determine the loop length for all loops. Let's say that's 4 bars. You could record another 4 bar loop in which you only PLAY for the first 2 bars. Doing this you allow the loop to play by itself for the first 2 bars and then improvise 2 bars for the last bars of the loop. Its a "dueling Banjo" kind of thing - but its one more neat way to use the Jam Man. Hope that helps some. James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 16:18:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10007; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:48:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:48:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FDC@n22.natureny.com> From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: loopers Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:53:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Resent-Message-ID: <4VA8fC.A.AcC.ZHnJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Any loopers in the NYC area? I hear Oblaat is playing at Tonic next Thursday (7/21). Any one else know of any shows going on? Where are the local loop hangouts? thanx, -nikki From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 17:52:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14877; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:47:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:47:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B268D6C.316@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:46:18 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Eventide H3000 SE for sale References: <3AA0096E.B21FE631@altruistmusic.com> <3.0.5.32.20010304073828.007cc660@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Everyone, Eventide H3000SE "kitchen sink" model for sale. stereo sampling,string modeler,Steve Vai presets,synth,great pich shifting,etc.etc... excellent condition 1200.00 obo. Thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 17:52:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14939; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:49:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:49:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <72.b94e252.2857e800@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:47:44 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com many days ago, PaulPokr@aol.com writes: >Hedewa7 - Hey, is your nickname 'Meatball'? so, uh..... huh? dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 18:02:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15244; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:57:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:57:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003501c0f38a$85ecd0e0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <3AA0096E.B21FE631@altruistmusic.com> <3.0.5.32.20010304073828.007cc660@pop.ici.net> <3B268D6C.316@earthlink.net> Subject: Request for a Test? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:56:17 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Folks, I've a favor to ask - yeah, what else is new eh? - But I'm testing out some streaming things and would like to know how this link works for you. Be sure to let me know what kind of connection you're using. http://www.earthlight.net/MmmmTest.html Stephen. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 18:27:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16885; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:23:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:23:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FDC@n22.natureny.com> References: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FDC@n22.natureny.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:23:07 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: loopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Fournier, Nicole" a ecrit: >Any loopers in the NYC area? I hear Oblaat is playing at Tonic next Thursday >(7/21). Any one else know of any shows going on? Where are the local loop >hangouts? That'd be 6/21! There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to the same organized level as on the west coast! on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on Saturday night at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. and tons of people off the list. (quick plug -- for art and music events, subscribe to the extreme NY music and art calendar list, or look at it online: ). So what sort of looping do you do? /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 18:40:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17304; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:38:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:38:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.118.136] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: david@awdsf.com Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 Pro Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:37:30 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2001 22:37:30.0834 (UTC) FILETIME=[44043320:01C0F390] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

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----Original Message Follows----
From: David Lieberman
Reply-To: David Lieberman
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 Pro
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:16:09 -0700
Sorry to bother you again. I followed the link you sent me, but the listed price was 399.00. I'd be more than happy to enter your e-mail as the referrer, if I can find the 99.00 deal. Maybe I'm missing something. Thanks for all your help...
David Lieberman
http://www.awdsf.com (Flash 5 plug-in required)
----- Original Message -----
From: Devious D_MasterMixer
To: david@awdsf.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 Pro
Yes, my good man, there is. > Email or tell your friends about ACID PRO, and
send them to
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677
for the boxed version or
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6676
for downloadable when
they are ready to buy.
>
> On the Sonic Foundry Online Store address form,
your friends will see a
field labeled "Referred By". Tell them to put
your email address,
ldarthard@ameritech.net, in that field. Now that last part is crucial, since it will enable me to get a free "Loops For Acid" CD.
----Original Message Follows----
From: David Lieberman
Reply-To: David Lieberman
To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
Subject: Acid 3.0 Pro
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:33:30 -0700
Sorry to bother you. I saw your posting about Acid Pro 3.0 for $99.00. Is there a special URL for the offer?
Thanks!
Dave
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 19:20:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19257; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:18:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:18:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2001 23:16:50.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[C27D6B90:01C0F395] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Not to open this can of worms again, but... I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due date of 6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't say exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I thought I would check with you cats to make sure. Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received shipment notices yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me the truth... could be. -s _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 19:22:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19413; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:21:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:21:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:24:40 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Message-ID: <20010612.162440.56.10.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,5-25 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i got the same story, and they already charged my cc even tho' nothing has shipped. i hate to rag on a company, but that's what i call customer service! On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700 "Peter Underwood" writes: > Not to open this can of worms again, but... > > I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due > date of > 6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't > say > exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I > thought I > would check with you cats to make sure. > > Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received shipment > notices > yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me > the > truth... could be. > > -s > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 21:42:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24224; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:40:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:40:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:39:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2001 01:39:14.0922 (UTC) FILETIME=[A75BFCA0:01C0F3A9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com After my experience with my cancelled order, I received an e-mail saying that my order had shipped, and that I should have received my tracking information in a previous e-mail. This was Sunday 6-10. Having received no previous e-mail, I of course called to check it out. I was told that this was yet another glitch, and that no orders had shipped, and that they had not yet received their order. I think considering the circumstances that when we get our gear is when we get our gear, and for $99.00 I'm not gonna go too crazy on them in order to get my gear, just as long as I eventually do get it. Although I would be interested in hearing when any of you get your orders. Pete. >From: "Peter Underwood" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700 > >Not to open this can of worms again, but... > >I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due date of >6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't say >exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I thought >I >would check with you cats to make sure. > >Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received shipment >notices >yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me the >truth... could be. > >-s >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 21:53:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24676; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:51:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:51:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [198.81.17.167] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:50:41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2001 01:50:41.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[407DD740:01C0F3AB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Hi guys, I ordered the Warp Factory, Filter Queen and EQ Killer from Guitar Center in San Jose Ca. and got them in 2 days.  What a deal huh??? $99 for Warp factory $79 for the other 2.  Good Luck with your orders.  Papa Dave   Om and Out

>From: "Pete Mundt"
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend
>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:39:14 -0400
>
>
> After my experience with my cancelled order, I received an e-mail
>saying
>that my order had shipped, and that I should have received my
>tracking
>information in a previous e-mail. This was Sunday 6-10. Having
>received no
>previous e-mail, I of course called to check it out. I was told that
>this
>was yet another glitch, and that no orders had shipped, and that
>they had
>not yet received their order. I think considering the circumstances
>that
>when we get our gear is when we get our gear, and for $99.00 I'm not
>gonna
>go too crazy on them in order to get my gear, just as long as I
>eventually
>do get it.
>Although I would be interested in hearing when any of you get your
>orders.
>Pete.
>
>
>>From: "Peter Underwood"
>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>Subject: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend
>>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700
>>
>>Not to open this can of worms again, but...
>>
>>I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due
>>date of
>>6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't
>>say
>>exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I
>>thought
>>I
>>would check with you cats to make sure.
>>
>>Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received
>>shipment
>>notices
>>yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me
>>the
>>truth... could be.
>>
>>-s
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 12 22:23:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26634; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:20:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:20:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200106130219.TAA23723@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:22:06 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3075218526_117897_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3075218526_117897_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit i was real dumbbb....i went and ordered those units from MF right after the announcement,backordered blahblahblah,whatever and meanwhile down at my friendly GC sf. they had all these units just sittin around...now those are gone and my order is somewhere between neverneverland and we'll get back to you :-( real suckee stanner ---------- From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Date: Tue, Jun 12, 2001, 6:50 PM Hi guys, I ordered the Warp Factory, Filter Queen and EQ Killer from Guitar Center in San Jose Ca. and got them in 2 days. What a deal huh??? $99 for Warp factory $79 for the other 2. Good Luck with your orders. Papa Dave Om and Out >From: "Pete Mundt" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:39:14 -0400 > > > After my experience with my cancelled order, I received an e-mail >saying >that my order had shipped, and that I should have received my >tracking >information in a previous e-mail. This was Sunday 6-10. Having >received no >previous e-mail, I of course called to check it out. I was told that >this >was yet another glitch, and that no orders had shipped, and that >they had >not yet received their order. I think considering the circumstances >that >when we get our gear is when we get our gear, and for $99.00 I'm not >gonna >go too crazy on them in order to get my gear, just as long as I >eventually >do get it. >Although I would be interested in hearing when any of you get your >orders. >Pete. > > >>From: "Peter Underwood" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>Subject: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend >>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700 >> >>Not to open this can of worms again, but... >> >>I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due >>date of >>6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't >>say >>exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I >>thought >>I >>would check with you cats to make sure. >> >>Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received >>shipment >>notices >>yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me >>the >>truth... could be. >> >>-s >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --MS_Mac_OE_3075218526_117897_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend i was real dumbbb....i went and ordered those units from MF right after the= announcement,backordered blahblahblah,whatever and meanwhile down at my fri= endly GC sf. they had all these units just sittin around...now those are gon= e and my order is somewhere between neverneverland and we'll get back to you= :-(
 real suckee

stanner
----------
From: "David Potter" <papadave55@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend
Date: Tue, Jun 12, 2001, 6:50 PM


Hi guys, I ordered the Warp Factory, Filter Queen and EQ Killer= from Guitar Center in San Jose Ca. and got them in 2 days.  What a dea= l huh??? $99 for Warp factory $79 for the other 2.  Good Luck with your= orders.  Papa Dave   Om and Out

>From: "Pete Mundt"
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /U>
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend
>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:39:14 -0400
>
>
> After my experience with my cancelled order, I received an e-mail
>saying
>that my order had shipped, and that I should have received my
>tracking
>information in a previous e-mail. This was Sunday 6-10. Having
>received no
>previous e-mail, I of course called to check it out. I was told that >this
>was yet another glitch, and that no orders had shipped, and that
>they had
>not yet received their order. I think considering the circumstances >that
>when we get our gear is when we get our gear, and for $99.00 I'm not >gonna
>go too crazy on them in order to get my gear, just as long as I
>eventually
>do get it.
>Although I would be interested in hearing when any of you get your
>orders.
>Pete.
>
>
>>From: "Peter Underwood"
>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com
>>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>Subject: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend
>>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:16:50 -0700
>>
>>Not to open this can of worms again, but...
>>
>>I called them yesterday regarding my order (which still had the due=
>>date of
>>6/10) and I was told that that shipment was late and they couldn't =
>>say
>>exactly when they would come in. Sounds like a big lie to me but I =
>>thought
>>I
>>would check with you cats to make sure.
>>
>>Has anyone who had a backorder notice for the 10th received
>>shipment
>>notices
>>yet, or heard any other news. It could be that she was telling me <= BR> >>the
>>truth... could be.
>>
>>-s
>>_________________________________________________________________ <= BR> >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at = http://explorer.msn.com
>>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http= ://explorer.msn.com
>


Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://e= xplorer.msn.com <http://explorer.msn.= com>

--MS_Mac_OE_3075218526_117897_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 00:11:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA30624; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:09:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:09:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <014601c0f3ad$66c8c7a0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:06:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Pete, having been told different stories by different help people I can only presume that the chain of information is breaking down somewhere between departments. Hopefully, something will come through, and the shipments will somehow arrive early. Having just read David Potter's post gives me a little hope that that could happen. So far, I haven't gotten a shipping confirmation email at all, and when I called they confirmed having not shipped any yet. So, sit tight I guess, we'll see. Familiar situation around these parts, but yeah, for that kind of discount it's hard to compain. :) In other news, it seems a few people took advantage of the clearance by picking up some to resell. There are currently several new in the box or nearly so Electrix items on Ebay, if anyone's interested. I don't wish to spam even with good intent (so I'll leave out the URLs), as I don't know the sellers, but I thought it was interesting and some people who can't get to the stores or find them in regular online stores might give it a shot. cheers. jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 00:20:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA30800; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:18:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:18:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <010501c0f3a0$11aad860$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: <20010612.162440.56.10.tony-moore@juno.com> Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:30:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for the heads-up! I just called. My card was charged too, technically though it's just an authorized hold. They said the back order date for everything is July 15th. Waiting an extra month to get these naturally kinda sucks but they said they had ordered enough so that I'd get what I ordered and that's why I'd been charged, so it works out I guess. In light of the discount and what looks to be great gear, when I do get them, I think it'll be worth the hassle. I guess we can wait and see, but if my case is a good example, you being charged might be a good thing. So, don't lose hope, at least not for 33 days... Again, good luck to all of us. Thanks to those who've been reporting in. Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 00:51:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA31348; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:50:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:50:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B26F0CD.52421136@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:49:18 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: best sequencer for a looping newbie References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey gang, a PC based friend of mine inquired as to what's the best sequencer for that platform. I've used Metro for the Mac for years, and have never been totally blown away by Cubase to make the change. He's just starting out in music and what he's doing now is mostly DJ stuff, loops. Any suggestions? Vision? Logic? Cakewalk? Is Cubase worth the cash? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 00:58:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA31555; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:57:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:57:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B26F27F.FB73670@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:56:33 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend References: <20010612.162440.56.10.tony-moore@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <67Rx4B.A.2sH.lKvJ7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I was over this a while back. Avoid Musician's Friend as much as possible. Their customer service SUCKS. I did much better telling my cat my problems with my order. At least she looked at me and seemed to care. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 04:45:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07236; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:41:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:41:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00b101c0f3e4$afa6a140$5942f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106121640.MAA00818@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:41:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I think that the San Francisco loopers have gone the way most artists have gone in San Francisco: the dot.com rent insanity is currently destorying the better part of the creative spaces to play in the city. I know that really creative people like Matt Davignon are up there. I'm still waiting for the first San Francisco Loop Festival. We are trying to find a spot to bring the World's First Bass Looping Tour* to San Francisco and we are having a hell of a time finding a place to do it Part of this may be the short notice that we have had to work out, but I have been a little shocked at how hard it is to bring a pretty cool thing like this to the city. I, also, am not a San Franciscan, but has that ever stopped me from commenting.........................................hell no ;-) Ciao for now, Rick Walker (loop.pool) *(with Michael Manring, Steve Lawson, myself -as the tour's only non-performing bassists-and Max Valentino) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 05:20:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08888; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:18:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:18:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: wavecomputer360@gmx.de Message-ID: <009e01c0f3e9$222edd00$31a090d4@StephenParsick> To: Subject: Behringer vs. Mackie Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:13:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01C0F3F9.D9BCA8C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C0F3F9.D9BCA8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, when I spoke to Robert Rich a while back he pointed out that he felt = that Mackie consoles tended to "dry out the reverb" as he put it. With = Behringer (judging from the two incarnations of the 2642 I had/have) I = have the impression that the new pre amps and EQs of the silver-coloured = series do have a somewhat different sound, tending more into the = direction of a very metallic and cold variety. Which might also have to = do with my main reverb and echo unit (Roland SRV/SDE-330). All in all = that=B4s not that bad a thing, especially when one is using loads of = analog synthesizers and effects units. This keeps the sound from getting = too swampy and mushy. Anyway, still looking for a good studio desk. Does anybody happen to = know about an affordable Soundtracs MRX 24-8-2 for sale in Germany 8)? Sorry for getting slightly off-topic, Stephen. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C0F3F9.D9BCA8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
when I spoke to Robert Rich a while = back he pointed=20 out that he felt that Mackie consoles tended to "dry out the reverb" as = he put=20 it. With Behringer (judging from the two incarnations of the 2642 I = had/have) I=20 have the impression that the new pre amps and EQs of the silver-coloured = series do have a somewhat different sound, tending more into the = direction=20 of a very metallic and cold variety. Which might also have to do with my = main=20 reverb and echo unit (Roland SRV/SDE-330). All in all that=B4s not that = bad a=20 thing, especially when one is using loads of analog synthesizers and = effects=20 units. This keeps the sound from getting too swampy and = mushy.
 
Anyway, still looking for a good studio = desk. Does=20 anybody happen to know about an affordable Soundtracs MRX = 24-8-2 for=20 sale in Germany 8)?
 
Sorry for getting slightly = off-topic,
 
Stephen.
------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C0F3F9.D9BCA8C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 05:21:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08892; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:18:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:18:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ee01c0f3e5$b85f7d60$5942f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106130142.VAA24303@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:49:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Simran had a beautiful set with his partner at the recent FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICA that I produced in Santa Cruz. Now that he has a vocoderl......................watch out!!!!! Rick (Loop.pooL) PS I have a vocoder too and nearly took the heads off of the hastily assembled Overtone Choir at the festival. One poor guy jumped and didn't want to come back on stage after that........I felt soooo bad...............watch out, Simran, you can really tweak your speakers with a couple of those nobs. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 09:49:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17522; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:47:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:47:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FE0@n22.natureny.com> From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: loopers Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:52:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Tom, > "Fournier, Nicole" a ecrit: > > >Any loopers in the NYC area? I hear Oblaat is playing at Tonic next > Thursday > >(7/21). Any one else know of any shows going on? Where are the local > loop > >hangouts? > > That'd be 6/21! ***oops, ya thnx...brain loop. > There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to the > same organized level as on the west coast! > > on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on Saturday > night > at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. and tons > of people off the list. ***cool, I'll try to check it out. Where's the locale? > (quick plug -- for art and music events, subscribe to the extreme NY music > and > art calendar list, or look at it online: > ). ***got it bookmarked. > So what sort of looping do you do? ***I'm a newcomer...i decided i'd like to give this a go. I'm in the market for a computer. I'm going mac. I'm taking an audio digital class at the New School, and the teach is helping people decide what they need to get. I've been told to get a duel proc mac, about 533 mhz. Now...about the program... what to get , what to get...we haven't looked at the programs yet. They mentioned Acid (not avail for mac) calkwalk, qbase, fraser, protool...yadda yaddaa... Have you any suggestions? I want to do loops, love drum n bass... I'd like to combine that, with a spice added, flavored with Fripp, Apex Twin, Reich, M. Monk, We, ambient / trancy / atmospheric stuff..going into beats. Least that's what I'm thinking. I just got 2 turntables, no microphone ;p (unless you count the piece of crap that I've had bought from Shit-Shack) and a mixer...I hope to encorp that with the mac. (side note: Got a Gemini mixer...someone told me that they are not known for their quality. I tried it out, and found that channel 1 is bad. I have to go back to Sam Ass and exchange it. Should I xchange it for some other brand?) thanx o'bunch, -nikki From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 10:43:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19564; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:42:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:42:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B279660.2FDCA927@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:35:44 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out Garden Party 2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Swiss guy's n girls (are there any ?) Matthias and Claude are back on the Geneva lake borders for our second "Chill out Garden Party" or "musiques planantes pour coucher de soleil" it will be held Sat June 23 in Nyon Switzerland during "fete de la musique" in a lovely park facing lake and Mt Blanc 250 m by feet from the port dir Geneva on the lakeside from 20h30 to total night with the encore as the moon rises... Total improv, tribal grooves, noizes, and heavens are on the menu with two of the most handsome dudes in Looping business. Matthias : polysubbass/polydistortion guitar ,EDP's,lexicon reverbs and beautiful notes Claude Acoustic and ac./midi guitars, vortex,EdPs, 4pole, sequencer and groovy tone Be there and say hello Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 10:58:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19999; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:56:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:56:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FE0@n22.natureny.com> References: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FE0@n22.natureny.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:55:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: RE: loopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to the > > same organized level as on the west coast! > > > > on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on Saturday > > night > > at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. and tons > > of people off the list. >***cool, I'll try to check it out. Where's the locale? The Pink Pony is on Ludlow, but he didn't give an address (Ludlow just below Houston if I remember...) > > So what sort of looping do you do? > ***I'm a newcomer...i decided i'd like to give this a go. I'm in the >market for a computer. I'm going mac. I'm taking an audio digital class at >the New School, and the teach is helping people decide what they need to >get. I've been told to get a duel proc mac, about 533 mhz. Was there some reason behind the dual-processor? >Now...about the >program... what to get , what to get...we haven't looked at the programs >yet. They mentioned Acid (not avail for mac) calkwalk, qbase, fraser, >protool...yadda yaddaa... Have you any suggestions? Hmm. Well, a lot of the people here are hardware loopers, grabbing loops "on-the-fly" as we play... I used to use Vision on the Mac but that's an orphaned program. I'm looking at MOTU's Digital Performer 3.0 when it comes out (finally)... but I need pretty heavy MIDI tools, sounds like you don't use MIDI at all! >I want to do loops, >love drum n bass... I'd like to combine that, with a spice added, flavored >with Fripp, Apex Twin, Reich, M. Monk, We, ambient / trancy / atmospheric >stuff..going into beats. Least that's what I'm thinking. I just got 2 >turntables, no microphone ;p (unless you count the piece of crap that I've >had bought from Shit-Shack) and a mixer...I hope to encorp that with the >mac. (side note: Got a Gemini mixer...someone told me that they are not >known for their quality. I tried it out, and found that channel 1 is bad. I >have to go back to Sam Ass and exchange it. Should I xchange it for some >other brand?) Gemini has a pretty bad reputation. People seem to like Numark, here's an interesting looking one... I fear this list won't really be too much good for this, though... not everyone here is a player who loops on the fly but most of the discussion seems to center on that. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 11:24:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21753; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:23:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:23:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FEB@n22.natureny.com> From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: loopers Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:28:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > The Pink Pony is on Ludlow, but he didn't give an address > (Ludlow just below Houston if I remember...) ***cool, maybe i'll see ya there. > > > So what sort of looping do you do? > > ***I'm a newcomer...i decided i'd like to give this a go. I'm in the > >market for a computer. I'm going mac. I'm taking an audio digital class > at > >the New School, and the teach is helping people decide what they need to > >get. I've been told to get a duel proc mac, about 533 mhz. > > Was there some reason behind the dual-processor? ***I'll have to ask. All i remember him saying was that they are memory suckers, these programs, and i'll need all the juice i can get. > I used to use Vision on the Mac but that's an orphaned program. > I'm looking at MOTU's Digital Performer 3.0 when it comes > out (finally)... but I need pretty heavy MIDI tools, sounds like > you don't use MIDI at all! ***nope. I need to see how/what people play, to determine what I should get for myself. > Gemini has a pretty bad reputation. People seem to like > Numark, here's an interesting looking one... > > ***I saw this one...seems to me like it has too many bells and whistles for me to start off with. Thought i should start out with something easier. peeeez -nik From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 11:35:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22236; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:34:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:34:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FEB@n22.natureny.com> References: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FEB@n22.natureny.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:33:53 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: RE: loopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > Was there some reason behind the dual-processor? >***I'll have to ask. All i remember him saying was that they are memory >suckers, these programs, and i'll need all the juice i can get. they ARE memory suckers, but memory is independent of how many dual processors you use. and as of right now there are as far as I know no Mac music programs that can use both processors (and precious few of ANY Mac programs that use more than one processor!) > > I used to use Vision on the Mac but that's an orphaned program. > > I'm looking at MOTU's Digital Performer 3.0 when it comes > > out (finally)... but I need pretty heavy MIDI tools, sounds like > > you don't use MIDI at all! >***nope. I need to see how/what people play, to determine what I should get >for myself. well, there are two schools, the "DJ" school and "player" school. the DJs mostly use loops created before they started, usually taken from LPs and CDs, and the players mostly make up the loops as they go along... > > Gemini has a pretty bad reputation. People seem to like > > Numark, here's an interesting looking one... > > > > >***I saw this one...seems to me like it has too many bells and whistles for >me to start off with. Thought i should start out with something easier. well, there are others, but the Chaos pad is a very nice piece of kit and awful convenient to have in your mixer. if you really want to do loops, you'll need SOME sort of effects unit and the Chaos pad is pretty damned decent and intuitive... that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 11:47:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22721; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:46:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:46:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:45:13 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2001 15:45:13.0883 (UTC) FILETIME=[D60EC6B0:01C0F41F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" >I think that the San Francisco loopers have gone the way most artists have >gone in San Francisco: the dot.com rent insanity is currently destorying >the better part of the creative spaces to play in the city. .....>We are >trying to find a spot to bring the World's First Bass Looping Tour* >to San Francisco and we are having a hell of a time finding a place to do >it I can only think of a few clubs in SF that would actually be happy to do something like this. The city went from having about 15 places to hear experimental music to about 5. Here are the ones I can think of that have experimental shows at least occasionally: 1) CELLspace (21st & Bryant) - a warehouse multiarts collective space 2) The Lab (16th & Cap) - an art gallery/avant garde performance space 3) Kimo's (Polk & Pine) - has a weekly experimental/free jazz night on wednesdays, and an industrial/noise/goth/experimental night on thursdays. Hey, today's a wednesday! Wow, people in San Francisco could check it out today! How about that! 4) The Luggage Store (6th & Market) - home of "Creative Music Thursdays" 5) Hot Rodney's/The Clit Stop (south of Market) - I thought this was closed down last year, but somebody tells me that they're still running. ?) 111 Minna - Several places tell me that they're into the new and avant garde, but in the past 4 years, they've been transitioning to only doing techno and drum 'n bass. The closure of the clubs is partly because they're being out-rented in their spaces, and partly because people will often move in upstairs or next door, then will complain about the noise. This is what happened to the entire south-of-market area. Kimo's came this close (holding fingers REALLY close together) to being shut down by the same thing, but they invested $10,000 in getting some soundproofing done. The best way to help keep the local clubs in business is to BUY A DRINK while you're there seeing shows. That's where the clubs get their income to stay functional in this highly competitive real estate market. >I know that >really creative people like Matt Davignon are up there. Gosh! (shuffles feet) I won't be a San Francisco looper for long though. After this saturday I'll be an Oakland one. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 12:03:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23064; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:57:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:57:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B278D20.C41B20D2@altruistmusic.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:56:16 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com matt davignon wrote: > I won't be a San Francisco looper for long though. After this saturday I'll > be an Oakland one. I was going to ask if it wouldn't be more feasible to stage a Bay Area loop-thing in Oakland or Berkeley, rather than SF... Any natives want to comment? --A (ps - sorry I missed you up there last month, Kim... next time perhaps...?) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 12:28:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24951; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:26:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:26:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010613162609.10029.qmail@web5104.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:26:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out Garden Party 2] To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3B279660.2FDCA927@vtx.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Claude Voit wrote: > Be there and say hello > > Claude For the rest of us who can´t be there are you guys planning on recording the gig and then upload it so we can stream/download it?, you should. Good luck Alx. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 12:32:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25157; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:31:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:31:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FF1@n22.natureny.com> From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: loopers Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:36:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > they ARE memory suckers, but memory is independent of how many > dual processors you use. ***i'll def look more into this. > well, there are two schools, the "DJ" school and "player" > school. the DJs mostly use loops created before they started, > usually taken from LPs and CDs, and the players mostly make > up the loops as they go along... ***both sound interesting. Which do you do? or , which do you prefer? > well, there are others, but the Chaos pad is a very nice piece > of kit and awful convenient to have in your mixer. > > if you really want to do loops, you'll need SOME sort of effects > unit and the Chaos pad is pretty damned decent and intuitive... ***hmm, maybe...especially if the gemini craps out, has a bad rap thanx ~n From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 12:44:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25420; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:40:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:40:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB329@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Behringer Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:37:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F427.22CC4C50" Resent-Message-ID: <_XSrxC.A.oMG.1c5J7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F427.22CC4C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix, that's perfect acceptable. BUT, if I try to release a recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from Hendrix' estate. ** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. there's a car ad (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of the guitar part of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from electric ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting any dough for that? sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car stuff . . . stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F427.22CC4C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Behringer

If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi = Hendrix,
that's perfect acceptable.  BUT, if I try to = release a
recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get = a license from
Hendrix' estate.

** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. there's = a car ad (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of = the guitar part of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come = on" from electric ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting = any dough for that?

sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car = stuff . . .

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F427.22CC4C50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 12:50:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25622; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:46:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:46:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B27979C.795BCEF7@home.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:41:00 -0400 From: JoE Silva Organization: QRM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cubase: Loops&Latency References: <200106112345.TAA17077@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0CE62F3AA5D7DF13F92AD6E0" Resent-Message-ID: <3AD-g.A.KQG.6i5J7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------0CE62F3AA5D7DF13F92AD6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: Goddess > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Joe, I've actually had the same problem with another software package. > what I di to solve it was simply to set the bpm of the software to that > listed with the loop I wanted to import, and then import it. > Thanks Goddess. This seems to work, particularly when I make sure that I use the same sample rate that the loop was originally recorded at. There's one piece of this puzzle missin though. Even once I have the loop working audio wise, when I snip it and then try and cut and paste it into a new bar, the resulting new audio all of sudden will not loop correctly again. I beginning to wonder if this has to do with the latency of my cheapo Soundblaster (audio buffers=5, buffer size=6000), or if I still don't have the science of looping in Cubase down pat. Any thoughts? Frustratingly yours...JoE --------------0CE62F3AA5D7DF13F92AD6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
From: Goddess <thefates@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 
  Joe, I've actually had the same problem with another software package.
what I di to solve it was simply to set the bpm of the software to that
listed with the loop I wanted to import, and then import it.


Thanks Goddess. This seems to work, particularly when I make sure that I use the same sample rate that the loop was originally recorded at. There's one piece of this puzzle missin though. Even once I have the loop working audio wise, when I snip it and then try and cut and paste it into a new bar, the resulting new audio all of sudden will not loop correctly again. I beginning to wonder if this has to do with the latency of my cheapo Soundblaster (audio buffers=5, buffer size=6000), or if I still don't have the science of looping in Cubase down pat. Any thoughts?

Frustratingly yours...JoE
  --------------0CE62F3AA5D7DF13F92AD6E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 12:58:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25929; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:54:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:54:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B27B5EC.67355466@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:50:20 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out Garden Party 2] References: <20010613162609.10029.qmail@web5104.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Alx wrote: > > --- Claude Voit wrote: > > Be there and say hello > > > > Claude > > For the rest of us who can´t be there are you guys > planning on recording the gig and then upload it so we > can stream/download it?, you should. > Good luck > Alx. Alx and all we will record it (this time :=() and will post some of it somewhere with pictures and all when, where, I don't know yet Claude untill then you may check http://www.music.columbia.edu/%7Ececenter/mhl21/ct/works_europe.html http://www.music.columbia.edu/%7Ececenter/mhl21/ct/philterz/philterz.html http://www.music.columbia.edu/%7Ececenter/mhl21/ct/ct_75/ct_75.html http://www.music.columbia.edu/%7Ececenter/mhl21/ct/acoustic/acoustic.html and there also Matthias's site http://Matthias.Grob.org/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 13:31:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27873; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:26:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:26:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:24:32 EDT Subject: Re: Cubase: Loops&Latency To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com theqrm@home.com writes: >This seems to work, particularly when I make sure that I >use the same sample rate that the loop was originally recorded at. >There's one piece of this puzzle missin though. Even once I have the >loop working audio wise, when I snip it and then try and cut and paste >it into a new bar, the resulting new audio all of sudden will not loop >correctly again. make sure that the 'snipped' portion is the same start point/end point/length as the original loop; or, if yer using 'divisions' of the loop, apply crossfade at loop-point if there are pos/kliks..... (i use Logic, so pardon any x-platform inconsistencies.....) >I beginning to wonder if this has to do with the >latency of my cheapo Soundblaster (audio buffers=5, buffer size=6000), not really likely; seems more likely that yer CPU might not have the juice to handle loops, or Cubase may not be loop-friendly? in Logic, you can very easily set the 'song-tempo' to the loop-length..... very precisely. sorry if that doesn't help..... bleet, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 13:40:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28099; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:33:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:33:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Sender: simran@phys-ha2mpka-16.Eng.Sun.COM Message-ID: <3B27A3DD.554F9AEA@Sun.COM> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:33:17 -0700 From: Simran gleason Reply-To: Simran.Gleason@Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76C-CCK-MCD Netscape [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5Ad3TD.A.u2G.hP6J7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Simran had a beautiful set with his partner at the recent FESTIVAL of > VOICE + ELECTRONICA that I produced in Santa Cruz. >Now that he has a vocoderl......................watch out!!!!! > Well, thank you! > > >PS I have a vocoder too and nearly took the heads off of the hastily >assembled Overtone Choir at the festival. One poor guy jumped and didn't >want to come back on stage after that........I felt soooo >bad...............watch out, Simran, you can really tweak your speakers >with a couple of those nobs. Was this the vocoder, or the resonant filter unit? I was under the impression that a vocoder will only modify the existing source by imposing the formant on it, and not severely add gain. However, a resonant filter can find a node at the filter frequency and go into instant gain chain brain drain feedback loop. This was my first experience with the electrix filter factory a year or so ago. I walked up to it and just tweaked the knobs. Didn't seem to do much so I turned up the "resonance" knob. Wham! I put a compression wave into that little music store that can probably still be seen in the drywall. What amazes me is that I didn't get immediately banned from the place ;-) So perhaps on the VOX+Elctronix fest stage the vocoder was running into the filter factory and happened to put out signal at the resonating frequency? Simran From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 14:40:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30894; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:35:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:35:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001701c0f437$e7c50000$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <200106112345.TAA17077@hemlock.violacea.com> <3B27979C.795BCEF7@home.com> Subject: Re: Cubase: Loops&Latency Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:37:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F3FD.387C0060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F3FD.387C0060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why is there a need to snip the loop before copy/paste? Usually once you = have a loop that fits, the copy process is painless- alt/drag is even = easier- hope you get it sussed out- Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JoE Silva=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: Cubase: Loops&Latency From: Goddess =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Joe, I've actually had the same problem with another software package. what I di to solve it was simply to set the bpm of the software to that listed with the loop I wanted to import, and then import it. Thanks Goddess. This seems to work, particularly when I make sure that = I use the same sample rate that the loop was originally recorded at. = There's one piece of this puzzle missin though. Even once I have the = loop working audio wise, when I snip it and then try and cut and paste = it into a new bar, the resulting new audio all of sudden will not loop = correctly again. I beginning to wonder if this has to do with the = latency of my cheapo Soundblaster (audio buffers=3D5, buffer = size=3D6000), or if I still don't have the science of looping in Cubase = down pat. Any thoughts?=20 Frustratingly yours...JoE=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F3FD.387C0060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Why is there a need to snip the loop before = copy/paste?=20 Usually once you have a loop that fits, the copy process is painless- = alt/drag=20 is even easier- hope you get it sussed out- Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 JoE = Silva
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 = 9:41=20 AM
Subject: Cubase: = Loops&Latency

From: Goddess <thefates@earthlink.net>=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20 
  Joe, I've actually had the same problem with another =
software package.
what I di to solve it was simply to set the bpm of the software to that
listed with the loop I wanted to import, and then import =
it.


Thanks Goddess. This seems to work, particularly when I make = sure that=20 I use the same sample rate that the loop was originally recorded at. = There's=20 one piece of this puzzle missin though. Even once I have the loop = working=20 audio wise, when I snip it and then try and cut and paste it into a = new bar,=20 the resulting new audio all of sudden will not loop correctly again. I = beginning to wonder if this has to do with the latency of my cheapo=20 Soundblaster (audio buffers=3D5, buffer size=3D6000), or if I still = don't have the=20 science of looping in Cubase down pat. Any thoughts?=20

Frustratingly yours...JoE
  =

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F3FD.387C0060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 15:00:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA31354; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:56:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:56:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001301c0f43a$ea5b33e0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB329@migarexch01.maritz.com> Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:54:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F3FF.A7DA8560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F3FF.A7DA8560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: BehringerIf it is obvious and they are not paying, they will be = soon- I would be very surprised otherwise- ever since Vanilla Ice vs. = Bowie I think there is less tolerance-=20 C ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: RE: Behringer If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix,=20 that's perfect acceptable. BUT, if I try to release a=20 recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from=20 Hendrix' estate.=20 ** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. there's a car ad (?) out = right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of the guitar part of a = hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from electric ladyland). = think the hendrix estate is getting any dough for that? sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car stuff . . .=20 stig=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F3FF.A7DA8560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Behringer
If it is obvious and they are not paying, they will = be soon- I=20 would be very surprised otherwise-  ever since Vanilla Ice vs. = Bowie I=20 think there is less tolerance-
C
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: 'Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com'=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 = 9:37=20 AM
Subject: RE: Behringer


If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi=20 Hendrix,
that's perfect acceptable.  = BUT, if I=20 try to release a
recording of "Purple Haze", = I need to=20 get a license from
Hendrix' estate. =

** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. = there's a car ad=20 (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of the guitar = part of=20 a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from electric ladyland). = think=20 the hendrix estate is getting any dough for that?

sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car = stuff . . .=20

stig

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F3FF.A7DA8560-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 15:19:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00492; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:13:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:13:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB330@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Behringer Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:10:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F43C.853BAE70" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F43C.853BAE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" begs the question, obvious to whom. i recognized it right away. that being said, i know there was a lawsuit brought by isaac hayes against miller brewing co forappropriating the shaft theme for an ad which starred richard roundtree. even though the ad was in the *style* of the movie theme, it was different. the jury couldn't tell the difference between the original wah wah part and the wah wah part on the ad (ad music was composed by the orchestrator of the movie, jj johnson) and awarded to hayes. i wonder if a jury could tell that it's the same hendrix part on the current tv ad. stig -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:55 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer If it is obvious and they are not paying, they will be soon- I would be very surprised otherwise- ever since Vanilla Ice vs. Bowie I think there is less tolerance- C ----- Original Message ----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: RE: Behringer If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix, that's perfect acceptable. BUT, if I try to release a recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from Hendrix' estate. ** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. there's a car ad (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of the guitar part of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from electric ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting any dough for that? sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car stuff . . . stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F43C.853BAE70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Behringer
begs the question, obvious to whom. i recognized it right away.
 
that being said, i know there was a lawsuit brought by isaac hayes against miller brewing co forappropriating the shaft theme for an ad which starred richard roundtree. even though the ad was in the *style* of the movie theme, it was different. the jury couldn't tell the difference between the original wah wah part and the wah wah part on the ad (ad music was composed by the orchestrator of the movie, jj johnson) and awarded to hayes.
 
i wonder if a jury could tell that it's the same hendrix part on the current tv ad.
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:55 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Behringer

If it is obvious and they are not paying, they will be soon- I would be very surprised otherwise-  ever since Vanilla Ice vs. Bowie I think there is less tolerance-
C
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: Behringer


If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix,
that's perfect acceptable.  BUT, if I try to release a
recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from
Hendrix' estate.

** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. there's a car ad (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of the guitar part of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from electric ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting any dough for that?

sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car stuff . . .

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F43C.853BAE70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 15:22:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00579; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:17:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:17:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003901c0f43d$e8eb6fe0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB330@migarexch01.maritz.com> Subject: OT: Sonic AD madness Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:20:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0F403.3A85CB60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0F403.3A85CB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: BehringerInteresting- was the orchestrator of the film also the = composer? Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: RE: Behringer begs the question, obvious to whom. i recognized it right away.=20 that being said, i know there was a lawsuit brought by isaac hayes = against miller brewing co forappropriating the shaft theme for an ad = which starred richard roundtree. even though the ad was in the *style* = of the movie theme, it was different. the jury couldn't tell the = difference between the original wah wah part and the wah wah part on the = ad (ad music was composed by the orchestrator of the movie, jj johnson) = and awarded to hayes. i wonder if a jury could tell that it's the same hendrix part on the = current tv ad. stig -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:55 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer If it is obvious and they are not paying, they will be soon- I would = be very surprised otherwise- ever since Vanilla Ice vs. Bowie I think = there is less tolerance-=20 C ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: RE: Behringer If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix,=20 that's perfect acceptable. BUT, if I try to release a=20 recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from=20 Hendrix' estate.=20 ** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. there's a car ad (?) = out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of the guitar part = of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from electric = ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting any dough for that? sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car stuff . . .=20 stig=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0F403.3A85CB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Behringer
Interesting- was the orchestrator of the film also = the=20 composer?  Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: 'Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com'=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 = 12:10=20 PM
Subject: RE: Behringer

begs=20 the question, obvious to whom. i recognized it right away.=20
 
that=20 being said, i know there was a lawsuit brought by isaac hayes against = miller=20 brewing co forappropriating the shaft theme for an ad which starred = richard=20 roundtree. even though the ad was in the *style* of the movie theme, = it was=20 different. the jury couldn't tell the difference between the original = wah wah=20 part and the wah wah part on the ad (ad music was composed by the = orchestrator=20 of the movie, jj johnson) and awarded to hayes.
 
i=20 wonder if a jury could tell that it's the same hendrix part on the = current tv=20 ad.
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: MediaOne=20 [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, = 2001=20 11:55 AM
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 Behringer

If it is obvious and they are not paying, they = will be=20 soon- I would be very surprised otherwise-  ever since Vanilla = Ice vs.=20 Bowie I think there is less tolerance-
C
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: 'Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com'=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, = 2001 9:37=20 AM
Subject: RE: = Behringer


If I were a guitar player and I sounded like = Jimi=20 Hendrix,
that's perfect = acceptable.  BUT, if=20 I try to release a
recording of "Purple = Haze", I=20 need to get a license from
Hendrix' = estate.=20

** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. = there's a=20 car ad (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of = the=20 guitar part of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from = electric=20 ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting any dough for=20 that?

sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car = stuff . .=20 .

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------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0F403.3A85CB60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 15:38:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01049; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:34:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:34:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB335@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Sonic AD madness Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:31:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F43F.7DEFFA10" Resent-Message-ID: <72ifs.A.NQ.MA8J7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F43F.7DEFFA10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hmm. i think that he did some of the music as well as the orchestration. i don't know for sure. my guess is (and it is a guess) that hayes did the theme song - - and johnson did the arrangement (which is what he *ripped* off* for the commercial - - he was a co-defendent in the suit) - - hayes probably did other songs and johnson did the arrangements and additional music cues, etc. again, my guess. i suppose one could look at a soundtrack album or the film credits to see who got *credited* (which ain't always the same thing as writing/doing) with the music. stig -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:20 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Sonic AD madness Interesting- was the orchestrator of the film also the composer? Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: RE: Behringer begs the question, obvious to whom. i recognized it right away. that being said, i know there was a lawsuit brought by isaac hayes against miller brewing co forappropriating the shaft theme for an ad which starred richard roundtree. even though the ad was in the *style* of the movie theme, it was different. the jury couldn't tell the difference between the original wah wah part and the wah wah part on the ad (ad music was composed by the orchestrator of the movie, jj johnson) and awarded to hayes. i wonder if a jury could tell that it's the same hendrix part on the current tv ad. stig -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:55 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer If it is obvious and they are not paying, they will be soon- I would be very surprised otherwise- ever since Vanilla Ice vs. Bowie I think there is less tolerance- C ----- Original Message ----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: RE: Behringer If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix, that's perfect acceptable. BUT, if I try to release a recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from Hendrix' estate. ** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. there's a car ad (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of the guitar part of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from electric ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting any dough for that? sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car stuff . . . stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F43F.7DEFFA10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Behringer
hmm. i think that he did some of the music as well as the orchestration. i don't know for sure. my guess is (and it is a guess) that hayes did the theme song - - and johnson did the arrangement (which is what he *ripped* off* for the commercial - - he was a co-defendent in the suit) - - hayes probably did other songs and johnson did the arrangements and additional music cues, etc. again, my guess. i suppose one could look at a soundtrack album or the film credits to see who got *credited* (which ain't always the same thing as writing/doing) with the music.
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:20 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: Sonic AD madness

Interesting- was the orchestrator of the film also the composer?  Cliff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Behringer

begs the question, obvious to whom. i recognized it right away.
 
that being said, i know there was a lawsuit brought by isaac hayes against miller brewing co forappropriating the shaft theme for an ad which starred richard roundtree. even though the ad was in the *style* of the movie theme, it was different. the jury couldn't tell the difference between the original wah wah part and the wah wah part on the ad (ad music was composed by the orchestrator of the movie, jj johnson) and awarded to hayes.
 
i wonder if a jury could tell that it's the same hendrix part on the current tv ad.
 
 
stig
 
-----Original Message-----
From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:55 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Behringer

If it is obvious and they are not paying, they will be soon- I would be very surprised otherwise-  ever since Vanilla Ice vs. Bowie I think there is less tolerance-
C
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: Behringer


If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix,
that's perfect acceptable.  BUT, if I try to release a
recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from
Hendrix' estate.

** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. there's a car ad (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of the guitar part of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from electric ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting any dough for that?

sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car stuff . . .

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F43F.7DEFFA10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 15:50:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01281; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:40:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:40:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006f01c0f441$1b8ab2a0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB335@migarexch01.maritz.com> Subject: Re: Sonic AD madness Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:43:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0F406.6B56B6C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0F406.6B56B6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: BehringerYa- that is why I asked- curious how it all comes out in = the wash... or not- Lennon/Mcartney....... or Mcartney/Lennon, that is = the question- ;) Om ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Sonic AD madness hmm. i think that he did some of the music as well as the = orchestration. i don't know for sure. my guess is (and it is a guess) = that hayes did the theme song - - and johnson did the arrangement (which = is what he *ripped* off* for the commercial - - he was a co-defendent in = the suit) - - hayes probably did other songs and johnson did the = arrangements and additional music cues, etc. again, my guess. i suppose = one could look at a soundtrack album or the film credits to see who got = *credited* (which ain't always the same thing as writing/doing) with the = music. stig -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:20 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Sonic AD madness Interesting- was the orchestrator of the film also the composer? = Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: RE: Behringer begs the question, obvious to whom. i recognized it right away.=20 that being said, i know there was a lawsuit brought by isaac hayes = against miller brewing co forappropriating the shaft theme for an ad = which starred richard roundtree. even though the ad was in the *style* = of the movie theme, it was different. the jury couldn't tell the = difference between the original wah wah part and the wah wah part on the = ad (ad music was composed by the orchestrator of the movie, jj johnson) = and awarded to hayes. i wonder if a jury could tell that it's the same hendrix part on = the current tv ad. stig -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:55 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer If it is obvious and they are not paying, they will be soon- I = would be very surprised otherwise- ever since Vanilla Ice vs. Bowie I = think there is less tolerance-=20 C ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: RE: Behringer If I were a guitar player and I sounded like Jimi Hendrix,=20 that's perfect acceptable. BUT, if I try to release a=20 recording of "Purple Haze", I need to get a license from=20 Hendrix' estate.=20 ** okay. this brings up an interesting thing. there's a car ad = (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar rendition of the guitar = part of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come on" from electric = ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting any dough for that? sorry this is late was away yesterday due to car stuff . . .=20 stig=20 ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0F406.6B56B6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Behringer
Ya- that is why I asked- curious how it all comes = out in the=20 wash... or not- Lennon/Mcartney....... or  Mcartney/Lennon, that is = the=20 question- ;)
 
Om
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: 'Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com'=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 = 12:31=20 PM
Subject: RE: Sonic AD = madness

hmm.=20 i think that he did some of the music as well as the orchestration. i = don't=20 know for sure. my guess is (and it is a guess) that hayes did the = theme song -=20 - and johnson did the arrangement (which is what he *ripped* off* for = the=20 commercial - - he was a co-defendent in the suit) - - hayes probably = did other=20 songs and johnson did the arrangements and additional music cues, etc. = again,=20 my guess. i suppose one could look at a soundtrack album or the film = credits=20 to see who got *credited* (which ain't always the same thing as = writing/doing)=20 with the music.
 
stig
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: MediaOne=20 [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, = 2001=20 12:20 PM
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: Sonic AD=20 madness

Interesting- was the orchestrator of the film = also the=20 composer?  Cliff
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: 'Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com'=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, = 2001 12:10=20 PM
Subject: RE: = Behringer

begs the question, obvious to whom. i = recognized=20 it right away.
 
that being said, i know there was a = lawsuit=20 brought by isaac hayes against miller brewing co forappropriating = the=20 shaft theme for an ad which starred richard roundtree. even though = the ad=20 was in the *style* of the movie theme, it was different. the jury = couldn't=20 tell the difference between the original wah wah part and the wah = wah part=20 on the ad (ad music was composed by the orchestrator of the movie, = jj=20 johnson) and awarded to hayes.
 
i wonder if a jury could tell that it's = the same=20 hendrix part on the current tv ad.
 
 
stig
 
-----Original Message-----
From: MediaOne=20 [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June = 13, 2001=20 11:55 AM
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 Behringer

If it is obvious and they are not paying, = they will be=20 soon- I would be very surprised otherwise-  ever since = Vanilla Ice=20 vs. Bowie I think there is less tolerance-
C
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart = A.
To: 'Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com'=20
Sent: Wednesday, June = 13, 2001=20 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: = Behringer


If I were a guitar player and I sounded like = Jimi=20 Hendrix,
that's perfect = acceptable.  BUT,=20 if I try to release a
recording of = "Purple=20 Haze", I need to get a license from
Hendrix'=20 estate.

** okay. this brings up an interesting = thing. there's=20 a car ad (?) out right now that uses an acoustic guitar = rendition of=20 the guitar part of a hendrix tune (i think the tune is "come = on" from=20 electric ladyland). think the hendrix estate is getting any = dough for=20 that?

sorry this is late was away yesterday due to = car stuff=20 . . .

stig=20 =

------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0F406.6B56B6C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 16:11:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02924; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:06:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:06:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010613141035.007fac30@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:10:35 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out Garden Party 2] In-Reply-To: <3B279660.2FDCA927@vtx.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com *laughing* OK, now why aren't there any handsome loop dudes here in my neck o' the woods?! lol! -Wish I could make it, sounds awesome!, but thousands of miles tends to put a bit of a damper on spontaneous travel! lol! Smiles, Goddess At 04:35 PM 6/13/01 +0000, you wrote: >Hey Swiss guy's n girls (are there any ?) > >Matthias and Claude are back on the Geneva lake borders for our second >"Chill out Garden Party" or "musiques planantes pour coucher de soleil" > >it will be held Sat June 23 in Nyon Switzerland during "fete de la >musique" >in a lovely park facing lake and Mt Blanc >250 m by feet from the port dir Geneva on the lakeside > >from 20h30 to total night with the encore as the moon rises... > >Total improv, tribal grooves, noizes, and heavens are on the menu with >two of the most handsome dudes in Looping business. > >Matthias : polysubbass/polydistortion guitar ,EDP's,lexicon reverbs and >beautiful notes >Claude Acoustic and ac./midi guitars, vortex,EdPs, 4pole, sequencer and >groovy tone > >Be there and say hello > >Claude > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 16:17:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03096; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:12:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:12:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010613141442.007fdd30@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:14:42 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: RE: loopers In-Reply-To: References: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FE0@n22.natureny.com> <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FE0@n22.natureny.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <-jPckB.A.Nw.rj8J7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -Just my .02, but I know a few DJs in my area, and they all use Pro-Tools for the Mac. Smiles, G-Girl At 10:55 AM 6/13/01 -0400, you wrote: >> > There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to the >> > same organized level as on the west coast! >> > >> > on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on Saturday >> > night >> > at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. and tons >> > of people off the list. >>***cool, I'll try to check it out. Where's the locale? > > >The Pink Pony is on Ludlow, but he didn't give an address >(Ludlow just below Houston if I remember...) > > >> > So what sort of looping do you do? >> ***I'm a newcomer...i decided i'd like to give this a go. I'm in the >>market for a computer. I'm going mac. I'm taking an audio digital class at >>the New School, and the teach is helping people decide what they need to >>get. I've been told to get a duel proc mac, about 533 mhz. > >Was there some reason behind the dual-processor? > > > >>Now...about the >>program... what to get , what to get...we haven't looked at the programs >>yet. They mentioned Acid (not avail for mac) calkwalk, qbase, fraser, >>protool...yadda yaddaa... Have you any suggestions? > >Hmm. Well, a lot of the people here are hardware loopers, >grabbing loops "on-the-fly" as we play... > >I used to use Vision on the Mac but that's an orphaned program. >I'm looking at MOTU's Digital Performer 3.0 when it comes >out (finally)... but I need pretty heavy MIDI tools, sounds like >you don't use MIDI at all! > > >>I want to do loops, >>love drum n bass... I'd like to combine that, with a spice added, flavored >>with Fripp, Apex Twin, Reich, M. Monk, We, ambient / trancy / atmospheric >>stuff..going into beats. Least that's what I'm thinking. I just got 2 >>turntables, no microphone ;p (unless you count the piece of crap that I've >>had bought from Shit-Shack) and a mixer...I hope to encorp that with the >>mac. (side note: Got a Gemini mixer...someone told me that they are not >>known for their quality. I tried it out, and found that channel 1 is bad. I >>have to go back to Sam Ass and exchange it. Should I xchange it for some >>other brand?) > > >Gemini has a pretty bad reputation. People seem to like >Numark, here's an interesting looking one... > > > >I fear this list won't really be too much good for this, >though... not everyone here is a player who loops on the >fly but most of the discussion seems to center on that. > > /t > > > that was fast > >.......all legal games of chess ...... >.....programmer's documentation .................. > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 16:29:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03411; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:25:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:25:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B27CBF9.3083F390@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:24:16 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: San Francisco gig blurt References: <3B278D20.C41B20D2@altruistmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I saw Scott D play at a small Cafe in Oakland, on a Saturday a long time ago (year?) At that time he was talking about maybe making it a regular weekly gig featuring different loopers. I never heard about anything happening, but I thought it was a great idea. I've actually met a small contingency of fellow loopers on the beautiful isle of Alameda, I'm sure they'd be up for an East Bay loop event. Remember, East Bay is Pig latin for Beast. Mark Sottilaro Andre LaFosse wrote: > matt davignon wrote: > > > I won't be a San Francisco looper for long though. After this saturday I'll > > be an Oakland one. > > I was going to ask if it wouldn't be more feasible to stage a Bay Area > loop-thing in Oakland or Berkeley, rather than SF... Any natives want > to comment? > > --A > > (ps - sorry I missed you up there last month, Kim... next time perhaps...?) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 16:44:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03797; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:39:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:39:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B27CF4C.39293369@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:38:27 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder References: <3B27A3DD.554F9AEA@Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Stay away from the "Robot" and the "noise" knobs when your not using voice signals, I've found. I've had my warp factory in my effects loops of my Mackie so that I could use any two channels. It's quite amazing, I must say, to have my beats/sequences tweaked by my guitar loop signal (and vise versa). Run the output through a Vortex, and you've got one hell of a trippy wall of sound. Mark Simran gleason wrote: > >Simran had a beautiful set with his partner at the recent FESTIVAL of > > VOICE + ELECTRONICA that I produced in Santa Cruz. > >Now that he has a vocoderl......................watch out!!!!! > > > Well, thank you! > > > > > > >PS I have a vocoder too and nearly took the heads off of the hastily > >assembled Overtone Choir at the festival. One poor guy jumped and didn't > >want to come back on stage after that........I felt soooo > >bad...............watch out, Simran, you can really tweak your speakers > >with a couple of those nobs. > > Was this the vocoder, or the resonant filter unit? I was under the > impression > that a vocoder will only modify the existing source by imposing the > formant > on it, and not severely add gain. However, a resonant filter can find a > node at the filter frequency and go into instant gain chain brain drain > feedback loop. > > This was my first experience with the electrix filter factory > a year or so ago. I walked up to it and just tweaked the knobs. Didn't > seem to do much so I turned up the "resonance" knob. Wham! I put a > compression > wave into that little music store that can probably still be seen in the > drywall. What amazes me is that I didn't get immediately banned from the > place ;-) > > So perhaps on the VOX+Elctronix fest stage the vocoder was running into > the filter factory and > happened to put out signal at the resonating frequency? > > Simran From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 18:31:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08163; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:27:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:27:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:26:09 EDT Subject: Re: loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com .....i just plugged into this thread, so forgive my lack-of-context: tom@swirly.com writes: >and as of right now there are as far as I know no Mac music >programs that can use both processors (and precious few >of ANY Mac programs that use more than one processor!) i heard from one of its programmer's, recently, that LogicAudioPlatinum does indeed use both processors of a dual-proc. Mac. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 18:36:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08237; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:29:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:29:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRctlQr6xyGs6rJ4NLqqtnGJgqG3wIUQt33r7IziGDDg5tYjb/ilB7hJrw= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:29:14 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out Garden Party 2] Message-ID: <29544-3B27E93A-1251@storefull-611.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Goddess 's message of Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:10:35 -0600 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Far be it from me to dub myself "handsome"..........but what IS your neck of the woods, Goddess ? ;-) James "Why did you never marry ?" an admirer asked the Mullah. "Well, I promised myself that I would marry if I ever found the perfect woman....." the Mullah replied. "I do remember meeting one woman.......she was gorgeous and had a heart of gold....." "So what happened ?" the admirer asked. "Turned out that she was dumb as a brick." said the Mullah "And you never met anyone else ?" the admirer enquired. "Oh, I did meet another woman. She too was very kind and we had the most fascinating conversations......" "So where is she ?" the admirer begged. "She was so ugly that I could not bear to look her straight in the face." responded the Mullah. "And you never met ANYONE else ?" the tedious admirer continued. "Ahhhhhhh, YES" answered the Mullah, " I did once meet a woman as beautiful as a desert rose, with a keen wit and a heart of sheer innocence !" "Then WHY did you not keep your promise and marry HER ?" the admirer protested. "As it turned out" concluded the Mullah, " SHE was looking for the perfect man !" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 18:45:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08349; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:32:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:32:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <60.fada619.285943c2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:31:30 EDT Subject: Re: loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com somebody said: >>> > There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to >the >>> > same organized level as on the west coast! truth! >>> > on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on Saturday >>> > night >>> > at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. me, for instance. of the guitarists: robby aceto. elliott sharp. leni stern. etc etc violinists: todd reynolds. etc etc of the dj's: way too many to mention..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 19:00:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09127; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:53:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:53:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002c01c0f45b$350b2ce0$1fccfc3e@default> From: "Martin Shakeshaft" To: "Looper's Delight Posts" Subject: Canoeing Video music wanted Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:49:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am currently working on a couple of canoeing (white water freestyle) videos and it struck me that they would be a good place to use looped music. I have written a couple of tracks which I will use but wondered if anyone else would like to contribute. The videos are self funded so I will not be able to pay for submissions so if this is a problem just ignore this post. This is not a scam for getting free music but a genuine request to get exposure for people. As many of you will know I am a poster to this group and looper myself. I know a lot of professional musicians resent being asked to give away their music, which is a attitude I understand. I am looking for music that has a fairly descent beat, but also different from the usual. Most canoeing videos have either mindless heavy metal or techno.......I want to lift it to another plain! The Stanley Kubrick of canoeing videos! :-) One of the videos will be made in Spain so anything with a Spanish feel would be gratefully received! But this isn't a necessity. I can not promise to use everything submitted as it has to fit what I have filmed but all submissions will be looked at seriously. I will also send a free copy of the video to anyone that sends me music, whether its used or not. Cheers. Martin -- Martin Shakeshaft in the UK. A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five - Groucho Marx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 19:06:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10407; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:01:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:01:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQr4d8bBejV+F8Yi6G4SWSSclgOMgIUFbgqCQR+L/syTkA2TZtg5a7n99U= From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:00:48 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Canoeing, Dueling Banjoes and Squealing Pigs Message-ID: <24586-3B27F0A0-469@storefull-612.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Martin Shakeshaft" 's message of Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:49:33 +0100 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Martin, Well, "Dueling Banjoes" has worked for canoeing films before. You might try looping squealing pigs with a pitch shifter and some reverb. In all seriousness, yes, I would be interested in submitting some material. Sorry, but the timing of this and other messages was TOO ironic. Thanks, Martin !, James Hines From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 19:32:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10986; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:27:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:27:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:26:25 EDT Subject: ot: gig spam pittsburgh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e0.16165a60.285950a1_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e0.16165a60.285950a1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i will be taking my loopiness to GEMS OF THE WORLD on CARSON ST. on pittsburgh's south side this friday and sat (6-15 and 6-17) from 8 till whenever, my darling wife will be having an opening for an art show that she is a part of.....so stop in and say hi.....i will be the only one not wearing a LD tea-shirt.....:).....michael p.s. here is the phone # of GEMS OTW for address info or questions 412-432-0300 --part1_e0.16165a60.285950a1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i will be taking my loopiness to GEMS OF THE WORLD on CARSON ST. on
pittsburgh's south side this friday and sat (6-15 and 6-17) from 8 till
whenever, my darling wife will be having an opening for an art show that she
is a part of.....so stop in and say hi.....i will be the only one not wearing
a LD tea-shirt.....:).....michael

p.s. here is the phone # of GEMS OTW for address info or questions
412-432-0300 --part1_e0.16165a60.285950a1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 19:32:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11013; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:28:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:28:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <45.7bac117.285950ea@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:27:38 EDT Subject: Re: Canoeing Video music wanted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_45.7bac117.285950ea_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_45.7bac117.285950ea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, looping music accompanying a video of a man or woman canoeing with only one paddle kinda makes sense to me... aHahahahahaha(clunk!) kevin --part1_45.7bac117.285950ea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, looping music accompanying a video of a man or woman canoeing with
only one paddle kinda makes sense to me...

aHahahahahaha(clunk!)
kevin --part1_45.7bac117.285950ea_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 20:50:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA13767; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:45:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:45:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Pedro Felix" To: Subject: Re: loopers Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:44:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01c0f473$83e95fe0$8a67580c@Wroswick.uvm.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -snippit >somebody said: >>>> > There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to >>the >>>> > same organized level as on the west coast! >truth! > >>>> > on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on Saturday >>>> > night >>>> > at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. >me, for instance. >of the guitarists: >robby aceto. >elliott sharp. >leni stern. >etc etc > >violinists: >todd reynolds. >etc etc > >of the dj's: >way too many to mention..... >best, >dt / s-c in NYC- ah also myself, strung things, mainly guitars my better half Theresa KK Radka, looping voice, keys and Handsonic, et cetera who btw is my Goddess Robert J. Norris guitars, mainly classical, just started looping, i'm holding my breath. PedrOOrdeP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 21:36:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA15999; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:31:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:31:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a001c0f472$19318a20$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: Subject: home studios? Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:34:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in advance! jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 21:42:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16211; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:38:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:38:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010613183731.02121ae0@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:37:37 -0700 To: From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: home studios? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com diatom drone (06:34 PM 06/13/01) wrote: >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in >advance! Some of the pics here may help... http://www.midiwall.com/synths/gearpics.html FYI... This page was saved from a molten heap that used to be my site... A lot of these links haven't been checked in a while - the link to my own pics page being one of them. :( Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 22:23:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18280; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:19:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:19:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:18:26 -0400 From: Floyd Miller Message-Id: <200106140218.WAA16416@portal.studiodust.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: home studios? Resent-Message-ID: <-LaQMB.A.bdE.z7BK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "diatom drone" wrote: > > does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to > make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in > advance! http://www.studiodust.com/sdmusic.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 13 22:32:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18451; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:23:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:23:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:17:16 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Levin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: <3B26F27F.FB73670@zerocrossing.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > I was over this a while back. Avoid Musician's Friend as much as > possible. Their customer service SUCKS. I did much better telling my > cat my problems with my order. At least she looked at me and seemed to > care. Back in the summer of 1998 I ordered a TC Electronics G-Force from MF. When it arrived, I noticed that the $1500 unit I bought as new had been previously racked. I called, raised hell and was told that a new unit would be overnighted to me since I had a gig the next night that I insisted that I have a NEW unit in my hands to use. It arrived ground shipped three days later. I was pissed and swore I'd never do business with them again. Silly me. Like several other dealers Guitar Center has been blowing out Alesis gear. I bought three ADAT LXs last week from my mail order vendor of choice Zzounds on a price match/beat deal of $789 a pop. Guitar Center's latest ad has the ADAT/EDIT computer PCI card interface listed at $99. Zzounds was unable to touch it. Rather than drive 2 hours round trip and waste $10 on gas and tolls to deal with the slimeballs at the local Guitar Center I decided to ring MF to see if they'd match their parent company's price (MF still has it listed at $299). The first guy I talked to said no. I called back later that evening and got someone who said yes, but said it would be non-returnable at that price - warning bells *should* have gone off in my head, but I said yes. The package arrived yesterday with previously opened box sans CD with drivers and applications. Luckily the software is on Alesis' website or I would have been screwed by my own stupidity for ordering from MF again after my G-Force experience. NEVER AGAIN. I've had the same experience in the GC stores where I went to purchase a DBX Quantum Mastering Processor last year and they tried to sell me as new - at the regular price - a previously used unit that had been racked. I got into a shouting match with the guy in the pro audio department about the definition of USED and how a previously racked unit which in their parlance is a "rebox" is USED GOODS. On my way out the door the manager on duty came around and dropped $300 off of the price (which at the time was $1600 or so). The bottom line is that GC/MF are trying to pass off used/returned gear as new, so if you do choose to buy from them CAREFULLY inspect the gear and NEVER agree to a "no return" clause. -Adam ---- T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ http://mp3.com/darkaether/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 00:41:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA22656; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:30:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:30:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:23:26 -0400 To: "Art List" From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance 6.16.01 w Immersion Music Salon @Zeitgeist Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ..............this Saturday................ June 16, 2001 Immersion Music Salon Zeitgeist Gallery, Cambridge (corner Broadway & Norfolk). 8:15 PM $5 donation Cutis Bahn.....Sensor Bass Andrew Neumann.....Laptop, sensors, switches Dr T. ................VideoMix Walter Wright........video shredder other.......potential ------------------ be there or be keyed out. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 03:03:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27721; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:58:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:58:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00bd01c0f49f$78f3e0c0$5543f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106131919.PAA00651@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:58:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nope, Simran, my glitch was caused by turning up the robot pitch knob (I should have know that buying ANYTHING with a robot pitch knob was getting me on to thin ice). This introduces a sine wave, believe and it is incredibly touchy. Good luck. I love my vocoder for looping or affecting loops once they are running. You can sweep up the overtone series with your voice, turn on the freeze formant knob and then release it at the end of your 'solo' whilst you sweep down the overtone series with your voice. Taking synth pads and vocoding them with drum machine patterns or loops is very, very cool as well. I have yet to use the 'classic' vocoder voice sound (and probably may never since I am cliche phobic). Later, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 03:29:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA29733; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:22:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:22:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00fc01c0f4a2$d0a18720$5543f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106140050.UAA13898@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: New York loopers/West Coast Loopers and an East Coast Call to Arms Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:22:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com somebody wrote: There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to >the same organized level as on the west coast!>>> Why do you think that is, folks? There are a lot more human beings on the East Coast with the same access to the technology. Now, I'm not trying to start a Tupac/Biggy coastal styled rivalry here, by any means, I just wonder if anyone has any ideas why this is so. Also, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, why don't some of you aspiring loopers put together a New York, or Philadelphia or Boston Looping Festival? I will talk anyone intrigued with this foolish notion through everything they will need to know to pull one of these off little soires. I've done about 10 of them so far and, right now, am in the chaotic process of producing the World's First Bass Looping Tour with loopers, Steve Lawson Michael Manring and Max Valentino and myself. Who knows, maybe you could rope in one of the big boys and girls, like loopers delight's own, dt (;-) or Elliot Sharp, since it would be any of those cities 1st Looping Festival. Just a thought. yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 03:31:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30102; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:29:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:29:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200106140729.AAA18967@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:31:25 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com well i know some pro musicians here in sf who insist on takin new stuff home from retailers before they purchase and as far as i know they *must* bring it back in said condition-if they dont i dont know what happens tho-i guess they cut off their heads or somethin...wot difference does it make in the long run as long as it worx and under warranty...food for thought stanner ---------- >From: Adam Levin >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend >Date: Wed, Jun 13, 2001, 8:17 PM > >On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> I was over this a while back. Avoid Musician's Friend as much as >> possible. Their customer service SUCKS. I did much better telling my >> cat my problems with my order. At least she looked at me and seemed to >> care. > >Back in the summer of 1998 I ordered a TC Electronics G-Force from >MF. When it arrived, I noticed that the $1500 unit I bought as new had >been previously racked. I called, raised hell and was told that a new unit >would be overnighted to me since I had a gig the next night that I >insisted that I have a NEW unit in my hands to use. It arrived ground >shipped three days later. I was pissed and swore I'd never do business >with them again. > >Silly me. Like several other dealers Guitar Center has been blowing out >Alesis gear. I bought three ADAT LXs last week from my mail order vendor >of choice Zzounds on a price match/beat deal of $789 a pop. Guitar >Center's latest ad has the ADAT/EDIT computer PCI card interface listed at >$99. Zzounds was unable to touch it. Rather than drive 2 hours round trip >and waste $10 on gas and tolls to deal with the slimeballs at the local >Guitar Center I decided to ring MF to see if they'd match their parent >company's price (MF still has it listed at $299). The first guy I talked >to said no. I called back later that evening and got someone who said yes, >but said it would be non-returnable at that price - warning bells *should* >have gone off in my head, but I said yes. The package arrived yesterday >with previously opened box sans CD with drivers and applications. Luckily >the software is on Alesis' website or I would have been screwed by my own >stupidity for ordering from MF again after my G-Force experience. > >NEVER AGAIN. > >I've had the same experience in the GC stores where I went to purchase a >DBX Quantum Mastering Processor last year and they tried to sell me as new >- at the regular price - a previously used unit that had been >racked. I got into a shouting match with the guy in the pro audio >department about the definition of USED and how a previously racked unit >which in their parlance is a "rebox" is USED GOODS. On my way out the door >the manager on duty came around and dropped $300 off of the price (which >at the time was $1600 or so). > >The bottom line is that GC/MF are trying to pass off used/returned gear as >new, so if you do choose to buy from them CAREFULLY inspect the gear and >NEVER agree to a "no return" clause. > >-Adam > >---- > T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t > http://www.darkaether.net/ > http://mp3.com/darkaether/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 07:51:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA08367; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:49:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:49:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00cd01c0f4c7$f5d32a60$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <24586-3B27F0A0-469@storefull-612.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: "Jazz" running on BBC Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:48:37 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, folks, it was inevitable I suppose. BBC's been running the Ken Burns "Jazz" 'documentary' this week - I've been watching this bit of business, and am thankful for the many comments put forth on this list in particular. It's helped me to maintain an omnicient viewpoint, as well as disseminate the opinions from the facts, which in the case of this show tend to fade in and out of clarity. My main observations on this one so far: * Too many interviews with writers - a vast majority of which were obviously not around when the 20s and 30s were with us, yet they go on like they were there! * Lovely bits - though not enough - where people who were ACTUALLY THERE are allowed to talk about their experiences, and not merely of their opinions as to what "actually happened" in a quasi-historical context. * Far, FAR too much emphasis on Louis Armstrong, to the detriment of those who were also obviously at work trying to bust through the artificial barriers of publishing companies - the progeny of which are continuing to steal musicians blind to this day. * How the hell is it that there's lots of talk about alcohol even during prohibition, but absolutely NONE of reefer, which good ol' Louis Armstrong enjoyed to his dying day (and even had people running out to get some in the UK when he was invited to the UK to meet the Queen)? So far I hear NOTHING about this. How politically correct. How benignly fascististic. * Thank God Artie Shaw was still alive for this one, and the other musicians - not the young ones - who were at least interviewed. Just a few so far. Thanks again to this list. I still have to hesitate changing the channel though, when either Stanley Crouch or Wynton Marsalis (who can at least play an instrument!) start pontificating. I had to laugh when they both started that "bip be bop bop shooby dop wop shabam" stuff. Once would be fine, but jeepers! Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 08:28:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09990; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:27:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:27:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:20:53 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Levin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: <200106140729.AAA18967@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: > well i know some pro musicians here in sf who insist on takin new stuff home > from retailers before they purchase and as far as i know they *must* bring > it back in said condition-if they dont i dont know what happens tho-i guess > they cut off their heads or somethin... Most reasonable and trustworthy dealers call those demo units and clearly sell them as such. Look at American Musical Supply's catalog, you'll see what I mean. > wot difference does it make in the long run as long as it worx and > under warranty...food for thought How do you or I know the status of a unit? Do you really think Joe Schmuck making minimum wage at GC and can't answer simple questions about the gear he sells puts returned gear through rigorous QA testing like the manufacturers do before they ship a product? I would think this would piss off the manufacturers too - i.e. what if someone on here buys a Repeater a few months down the line after it comes out and tells us how one of the knobs fell off after he pulled it out of the box and not only that, the unit locked up. Reason: it happened because someone returned the unit after dropping it and Guitar Center simply resold it as a new item. Wouldn't that be horrible for Electrix's reputation? As for still being under warranty. That's all fine and good if you want to buy something, find out there's something wrong and then have to sit by without the unit for the time it takes to get it repaired/replaced. When I buy something NEW I expect it to be NEW and I expect it to WORK. -Adam ---- T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ http://mp3.com/darkaether/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 09:13:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11780; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:10:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:10:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000c01c0f4d3$3d949b80$2201a8c0@urso> From: "Daniel Pezzotti" To: Subject: a question Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:09:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0F4E3.F29CF4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0F4E3.F29CF4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear looper-friends, I'm a cellist from Zurich (Switzerland) and I would have a = question....it's not really loop-related but who knows, somebody can = help........ I would like to know how a can prepare a click - track for a studio = recording......means...prepare a click for a piece of music which = includes tempo and rhythm-changes... is there a software for this? Till now I did it trough exporting Midi-files from Notator-software like = Encore or Finale....it works, but maybe there is something better to use = for..... Thanks in advance for any help and happy looping! Daniel Pezzotti=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0F4E3.F29CF4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear looper-friends,
I'm a cellist from Zurich (Switzerland) = and I would=20 have a question....it's not really loop-related but who knows, somebody = can=20 help........
 
I would like to know how a can prepare = a click -=20 track for a studio recording......means...prepare a click for a piece of = music=20 which includes tempo and rhythm-changes...
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happy looping!
 
Daniel = Pezzotti 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0F4E3.F29CF4E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 09:30:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12127; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:26:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:26:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B28E41E.763F9185@home.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:19:42 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5D740D5A48B3FD32614FBE17" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5D740D5A48B3FD32614FBE17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yet another major company falling victim to the all might dollar.... Adam Levin wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > > I was over this a while back. Avoid Musician's Friend as much as > > possible. Their customer service SUCKS. I did much better telling my > > cat my problems with my order. At least she looked at me and seemed to > > care. > > Back in the summer of 1998 I ordered a TC Electronics G-Force from > MF. When it arrived, I noticed that the $1500 unit I bought as new had > been previously racked. I called, raised hell and was told that a new unit > would be overnighted to me since I had a gig the next night that I > insisted that I have a NEW unit in my hands to use. It arrived ground > shipped three days later. I was pissed and swore I'd never do business > with them again. > > Silly me. Like several other dealers Guitar Center has been blowing out > Alesis gear. I bought three ADAT LXs last week from my mail order vendor > of choice Zzounds on a price match/beat deal of $789 a pop. Guitar > Center's latest ad has the ADAT/EDIT computer PCI card interface listed at > $99. Zzounds was unable to touch it. Rather than drive 2 hours round trip > and waste $10 on gas and tolls to deal with the slimeballs at the local > Guitar Center I decided to ring MF to see if they'd match their parent > company's price (MF still has it listed at $299). The first guy I talked > to said no. I called back later that evening and got someone who said yes, > but said it would be non-returnable at that price - warning bells *should* > have gone off in my head, but I said yes. The package arrived yesterday > with previously opened box sans CD with drivers and applications. Luckily > the software is on Alesis' website or I would have been screwed by my own > stupidity for ordering from MF again after my G-Force experience. > > NEVER AGAIN. > > I've had the same experience in the GC stores where I went to purchase a > DBX Quantum Mastering Processor last year and they tried to sell me as new > - at the regular price - a previously used unit that had been > racked. I got into a shouting match with the guy in the pro audio > department about the definition of USED and how a previously racked unit > which in their parlance is a "rebox" is USED GOODS. On my way out the door > the manager on duty came around and dropped $300 off of the price (which > at the time was $1600 or so). > > The bottom line is that GC/MF are trying to pass off used/returned gear as > new, so if you do choose to buy from them CAREFULLY inspect the gear and > NEVER agree to a "no return" clause. > > -Adam > > ---- > T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t > http://www.darkaether.net/ > http://mp3.com/darkaether/ --------------5D740D5A48B3FD32614FBE17 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------5D740D5A48B3FD32614FBE17-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 09:41:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12335; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:33:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:33:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FFC@n22.natureny.com> From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: loopers Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:38:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeah...I got more info...apparently a fair amount of these music programs are written to make use of the dual mac pross. They must be only children.;p ~nikki > ---------- > From: Hedewa7@aol.com > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:26 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: loopers > > .....i just plugged into this thread, so forgive my lack-of-context: > > tom@swirly.com writes: > >and as of right now there are as far as I know no Mac music > >programs that can use both processors (and precious few > >of ANY Mac programs that use more than one processor!) > i heard from one of its programmer's, recently, that > LogicAudioPlatinum does indeed use both processors of a dual-proc. Mac. > best, > dt / s-c > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 09:48:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12624; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:44:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:44:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FFD@n22.natureny.com> From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: loopers Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:50:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Resent-Message-ID: <925HlC.A.7ED.S-LK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sweet! there are other music lover freaks out there!!! hope to make the acquantence I'm heading out Sat. nite to check Pink Pony (i hope this is not the boutique place ;'?) Got to get some learning done....novice am I. -nik > ---------- > From: Hedewa7@aol.com > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:31 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: loopers > > somebody said: > >>> > There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to > >the > >>> > same organized level as on the west coast! > truth! > > >>> > on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on > Saturday > >>> > night > >>> > at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. > me, for instance. > of the guitarists: > robby aceto. > elliott sharp. > leni stern. > etc etc > > violinists: > todd reynolds. > etc etc > > of the dj's: > way too many to mention..... > best, > dt / s-c > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 09:55:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12819; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:51:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:51:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC2FFE@n22.natureny.com> From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: loopers Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:56:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com cool...spam me with your nyc gigs. -nikki > ---------- > From: Pedro Felix > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:44 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: loopers > > -snippit > > >somebody said: > >>>> > There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to > >>the > >>>> > same organized level as on the west coast! > >truth! > > > >>>> > on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on > Saturday > >>>> > night > >>>> > at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. > >me, for instance. > >of the guitarists: > >robby aceto. > >elliott sharp. > >leni stern. > >etc etc > > > >violinists: > >todd reynolds. > >etc etc > > > >of the dj's: > >way too many to mention..... > >best, > >dt / s-c > in NYC- > ah also myself, strung things, mainly guitars > my better half Theresa KK Radka, looping voice, keys and Handsonic, et > cetera who btw is my Goddess > Robert J. Norris guitars, mainly classical, just started looping, i'm > holding my breath. > PedrOOrdeP > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 09:55:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12847; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:51:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:51:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00c101c0f4d8$da6acec0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: Video Performance 6.16.01 w Immersion Music Salon @Zeitgeist Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:49:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <-QuBSD.A.jID.RFMK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Video Performance 6.16.01 w Immersion Music Salon @Zeitgeist > ..............this Saturday................ > June 16, 2001 > Immersion Music Salon > Zeitgeist Gallery, Cambridge > (corner Broadway & Norfolk). > 8:15 PM $5 donation > . . . > Walter Wright........video shredder Hey, Emile, tell Walter I said, "Hello." He was part of the Michiana Improvisational Music Festival we played last weekend as "TransSonic Music." The world is shrinking....we're all in the same loop... Have a good gig! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 10:07:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14242; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:03:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:03:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:00:32 +0200 Subject: looping with a Vocoder From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15AXhl-0y0ViSC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah,a real fine topic for LD ! I use since five years an analog Vocoder/Filterbank as an extraordinary effectdevice in my Setup. Most people think about a Vocoder,that it is a tool to make Robotvoices based on a Saw-wave. To difference my usage from this public prejudice,I call this device just VCA controlled Filterbank. It is very flexible to use for filtering or selected Filterband distortion(if it is analog). It can realize Pseudophasing effects,Filtersweeps,Singlebanddistortion and so much more. And at least you can use it as an pseudo EQ,based on the Formants of the humans voice.As the Filters are working very sharp,it has a different quality to "normal" EQs. Use a Sinewave pitchshifting over a a space about +/- 4 octaves(a Casio VZ1 offers such a strong modulation for example).Then you can hear how a really narrow bandwith of overtones will be faded in and out.Really a fine Filtersweep simulation. Mostly I use the Vocoder not for extreme effects. For my Livesetup I use an analog MAMVF11.Not the Ultima Ratio,but works OK and can be adjusted fast in a Live situation.In STudio I use a Software 22Band Vocoder wich is softwarebased. Both solutions are OK,but will not make me say that they are great. For the future I hope,that there will be a Vocoder/Filterbank,wich can be adjusted easily like my analog one,but has a fine soundquality(without the analog noise) and a wider spreaded Filterband. Maybe 48 Bands. Nevertheless,the Vocoder/Filterbank is a very important part of my Setup ! And like Rick I never used the "ROBOT"-function of this device.Hmmmmmmmm...? Maybe only to amuse my little son and nephews on a birthday party. :-) A Vocoder/Filterbank is a great tool to shape a sound.So I only recommend it ! Marty ---------- >Von: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" >An: >Betreff: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder >Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 8:58 Uhr > >Nope, Simran, my glitch was caused by turning up the robot pitch knob >(I should have know that buying ANYTHING with a robot pitch knob was >getting me on to thin ice). This introduces a sine wave, believe and it is >incredibly touchy. >Good luck. I love my vocoder for looping or affecting loops once they are >running. You can sweep up the overtone series with your voice, turn on the >freeze formant knob and then release it at the end of your 'solo' whilst you >sweep down the overtone series with your voice. Taking synth pads >and vocoding them with drum machine patterns or loops is very, very cool as >well. I have yet to use the 'classic' vocoder voice sound (and probably may >never since I am cliche phobic). > >Later, Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 10:47:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15075; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:40:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:40:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PRCamann@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:39:50 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Electrix at Musician's Friend To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <70.babb915.285a26b6@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just a follow-up to my post from last week. Someone suggested going to the American Musical Supply site for a Warp Factory. I did and the $89 unit was a scratch-and-dent special, which proceeded to go from "In Stock" to "Backordered" before my very eyes. At this point I contacted my local music store (Ron's Guitars in Groton, CT, where I've done a fair amount of business) about the Warp Factory they then had on eBay. They wouldn't be able to match the $99 price if the auction fell through (which it ultimately did), but said they would try to work out a fair deal with me. At that point I called the Guitar Center in Manchester, CT, about an hour's drive away. They had three in stock and were willing to sell me one at the sale price; I live just outside the 50-mile limit for shipping so they could send it to my home. I bought the unit, then sent an e-mail to Musician's Friend canceling my (back)order. I also visited Ron's Guitars the next day to tell them I'd found an alternate source; they thanked me for considering them first (and of course I will continue to give them my preferred business for other items). The Warp Factory was on my front step yesterday. So far, so good. Looked like a factory-packed unit and seems to work as it should. Good luck to all of you in these trying times... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 11:33:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17012; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:28:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:28:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: eleon@pop.ripco.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00fc01c0f4a2$d0a18720$5543f93f@dnlsh01> References: <00fc01c0f4a2$d0a18720$5543f93f@dnlsh01> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:25:03 -0500 To: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" , From: Eric Leonardson Subject: re: New York loopers/West Coast Loopers and an East Coast Call to Arms Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA16978 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Rick, How've you been? I can't speak for East Coast loopers but just thought I'd add my 2¢. I wonder if some loopers think of it (looping) as one of many different ways to manipulate and generate sounds, rather than the sole or primary one. Elliot Sharp is an amazing guitarist who uses looping effects, among many others, and doubt he identifies his music as "looping." Perhaps a Looping Festival suggests a genre or aesthetic that musicians don't want to be pegged in, or identified with, even though that's not necessarily so. I think of looping as a means to an end. A lot of the time I play with the EDP in a way that avoids obvious repetition, so that looping patterns are barely or entirely imperceptible. Best regards, Eric At 12:22 AM -0700 6/14/01, Rick Walker \(loop.pool\) wrote: >somebody wrote: >There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to > >the same organized level as on the west coast!>>> > >Why do you think that is, folks? There are a lot more human beings on the >East Coast with the same access to the technology. Now, I'm not trying to >start a Tupac/Biggy coastal styled rivalry here, by any means, I just >wonder if anyone has any ideas why this is so. > >Also, >at the risk of sounding like a broken record, why don't some of you >aspiring loopers put together a New York, or Philadelphia or Boston >Looping Festival? I will talk anyone intrigued with this foolish notion >through everything they will need to know to pull one of these off little >soires. I've done about 10 of them so far and, right now, am in the chaotic >process of producing the World's First Bass Looping Tour with loopers, Steve >Lawson Michael Manring and Max Valentino and myself. >Who knows, maybe you could rope in one of the big boys and girls, like >loopers delight's own, dt (;-) or Elliot Sharp, since it would be any of >those cities 1st Looping Festival. Just a thought. > >yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) --------------------- Upcoming Performances, Broadcasts, Etc.: Friday, June 22 at 9:00 pm Solo performance opening for Tiny Hairs . 4612 N. Lincoln Avenue (next to the Davis Theater). Phone (773) 728-5010. New on Compact Disc: Winter Construction (dceo003) A compilation of Chicago artists with accompanying zine featuring tracks by MORA, Kyle Bruckmann, Eric Leonardson/Yasuhiro Otani, Rosenberg Skronktet, Fred Lonberg-Holm, the Flying Luttenbachers, Ernst Karel/ Brent Gutzeit/ Jason Soliday, Lozenge, Metallux, TV Pow, and others... available on-line . Listen to the High Zero 2000 Documentation Site http://www.highzero.org/highzero2000documentation/index.htm More info on the web: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 12:01:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17556; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:56:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:56:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010614112103.00a30040@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:57:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: musician's fiend In-Reply-To: <200106141407.KAA14365@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com oh god, here we go again. mf, initials well deserved, really raise the question, "when does negligence become fraud", *whoops!* i didn't say that word, i meant bait-and-switch. here in nys we happen to have very tough b&s laws (initials again well deserved.) i've never heard of anyone calling mf on it, but i try not to concentrate on the negative. still, i wonder if there isn't an almost class-action level of ineptitude in play here. we've all had the kind encounters with them that beg the question "how could any company could be so disorganized and still survive?" (well, yeah, there WAS the chrysler bail-out...) i'll tell anyone who cares that not one of the 4 orders i placed with them was fulfilled properly, and not one of the errors in fulfillment was in my favor, either. they can't even seem to honor my requests to discontinue catalog mailings (they SAY they'll stop sending em, but like a bad dinner they keep coming back.) but i'll also be fair and say that, after an amount of whining on my part that varied in intensity from a simple forlorn request to something a lot like screaming and yelling, i got what they advertised. it just seems like you order the item you want to get, and they ship the one they want to get rid of. as threadfodder, mf rants get almost cushingly predictable. kim, is there any way we could just put some kind of "musicians friend warning label" on the website and still avoid libel suits? only kidding. sort of. spleen vented, soapbox vacated a:c ps >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:44:13 -0500 >From: "Pedro Felix" >To: >Subject: Re: loopers > >-snippit > > > >>>> > on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on >Saturday > >>>> > night > >>>> > at the Pink Pony), thanks fr th plug! hope you can make some portion of it. i'd add "should be a good one", but you really never can tell! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 12:01:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17616; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:57:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:57:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: eleon@pop.ripco.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:54:32 -0500 To: , "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" From: Eric Leonardson Subject: Fwd: Announcing HIGH ZERO 2001, Sept 13-16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA17558 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It's not a Loopers' Fest but it's definitely an East Coast Festival where you can hear not only looping but a whole universe of strange and wonderful sounds! I know because I was in it last year and the year before...A truly amazing and inspiring event. Best regards, Eric >To: mangkunegaran@hotmail.com >Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:39:06 -0400 >From: "HIGH ZERO" >X-Sent-Mail: off >Reply-To: high_zero@lycos.com >Subject: Announcing HIGH ZERO 2001, Sept 13-16 >X-Sender-Ip: 207.22.66.52 >Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) > >HIGH ZERO >3rd Annual Festival of >Experimental Improvised Music >Baltimore, 2001 > >Thursday Sept. 13th-Sunday, Sept. 16th >The Theater Project >45 West Preston Street >Baltimore, Maryland >http://www.highzero.org > >A dazzling mix of innovation, imagination, and integrity now in its >third year, the HIGH ZERO festival is one of the most idealistic and >elevating experimental music ventures in North America. Join us in >September for four exhilarating days of musical exploration! > >Our Mission >A unique festival in North America, HIGH ZERO is focused solely on >new collaborations in freely improvised experimental music. >Internationally famous musicians play side by side with younger >ìunknowns,î united by their commitment to the musical imagination. >For four days in September each year, Baltimore becomes a fertile >meeting-ground for a group of inspired players drawing from an >international subculture. The festival exposes large audiences to >this radical music in its pure form. Each year, dedicated musicians >and sound-artists come as individuals to participate in entirely new >improvised collaborations. > >The festival exposes large audiences to this radical music in its >pure form. Large-scale public concerts, recording sessions, >workshops, and guerilla street performances are all part of the >heady mix. The players are carefully selected by the festival's >organizers for their refined, unique music, whether it is based >around dramatic intensity, humor, specially designed and built >instruments, original approach, raw sound, or nearly superhuman >instrumental technique. The resulting collaborations challenge the >limits of music and delight by their audacity, expressiveness, >immediacy, and innovation. It isn't about stars or bands; it is >about the most uncompromising and stimulating improvised music we >can bring together. > >Why Baltimore? >Now in its third year, HIGH ZERO is a grassroots-organized event and >brainchild of the critically acclaimed (and unfunded) RED ROOM >performance space, an ongoing series which has hosted over 300 >performances of experimental music since it began in 1996. (See >www.redroom.org on the web.) Avant-garde music in North America is >often played in small clubs and art galleries like the RED ROOM, but >HIGH ZERO breaks through to a larger audience. Surprisingly, in >recent years Baltimore has joined Chicago, New York, Seattle, San >Francisco, and Montreal as a center for avant-garde musical activity >in North America. HIGH ZERO, now in its third year, is an outgrowth >of this unique development of Baltimore culture, and also a rare >coming together of artists from Europe and North America. > > >The History of HIGH ZERO > >"Best New Cultural Event, 2000" >- Baltimore City Paper > >"No one walked away disappointed, as this year's first annual HIGH >ZERO Festival of Experimental Improvised Music left the large crowds >at every session enthralled. " >--Steve A. Loewy, Cadence Magazine, 1999 > >ìA striking glimpse into the avant-garde and a creative process >limited only by the imagination. î >--Tim Smith, The Baltimore Sun, 2000 > >Born September of 1999 to the wailing of fire alarms, growling tubas >and home-built electronic instruments, the first HIGH ZERO festival >was a startlingly unusual event, mixing sold-out and capacity crowds >with highly challenging and engaging music. Cadence magazine praised >the event to the heavens and wondered how it could happen in a place >like Baltimore. Indeed, audience members and local musicians alike >were all aware that a fundamental shift had occurred during the >festival in the visibility of this typically underground music. The >festival exposed over 700 audience members to new collaborations >between 30 local, national, and international players over four long >concerts. The music was inspired, outlandish, moving and thought >provoking. In 2000, HIGH ZERO drew even larger crowds than the first >year, added recording sessions and guerilla street performances, >and, most importantly, created a space for some incredible, inspired >music. Two CDs, a documentary video, and an au >dio-visual documentation web site from that festival are in the works. > >This Year's Festival! >September 13th to 16th, HIGH ZERO will bring together 28 amazing >individuals culled from underground experimental music scenes of >Canada, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, and the United States. >This year, we will hold all five long concerts (twenty sets!) over >four days at The Theater Project, a beautiful venue with great >acoustics and stadium seating. Through the intense collaborations of >these diverse players, we expect an extraordinary four days. A >schedule of sets will be available made available in August. > > >The musicians of High Zero 2001: >Thomas Ankersmidt (saxophone) Berlin >Jim Baker (Arp synthesizer) Chicago >John Berndt (saxophone, electronics) Baltimore >Dan Breen (bass, drums) Baltimore >Mike Bullock (contrabass) Boston >Charles Cohen (Buchla synthesizer) Philadelphia >Daniel Conrad (flute, voice, self-built instruments) Baltimore >Mike Cooper (guitar, electronics) Rome >Helena Espvall (cello, banjo) Stockholm and Philadelphia >Neil Feather (self-built instruments) Baltimore >Eric Franklin (theremin, self-built instruments) Baltimore >Lafayette Gilchrist (keyboard) Baltimore >David Gross (reeds) Boston >Andy Hayleck (guitar, electronics, self-built instruments) Baltimore >Katt Hernandez (violin) Boston >Peter Kowald (contrabass) Wuppertall [Germany] >Keenan Lawler (guitar, electronics) Louisville >Eric Letourneau (computer, various) Montreal >Lukas Ligeti (drums, electronics) New York City >Kaffe Matthews (violin, electronics) London >Chris Meeder (tuba) New York City >Ian Nagoski (electronics) Baltimore >Catherine Pancake (percussion) Baltimore >Evan Rapport (reeds) Baltimore >Dean Roberts (guitar, electronics) Milan >Leslie Ross (bassoon) New York City >Jason Willett (various) Baltimore >Jack Wright (reeds) Boulder > >More Information >Press information, including downloadable hi-res photos and >biographic material will be available shortly through >www.highzero.org. > >As in the previous two years, HIGH ZERO 2001 is funded through >admission and individual and corporate donations. If you would like >to support the festival and make a tax deductible donation, purchase >a festival pass, or inquire about affordable advertising in the >festival program, call John Berndt at 410 889 5854 or email at >johnb@berndtgroup.net. > > > > >Get 250 color business cards for FREE! >http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ --------------------- Upcoming Performances, Broadcasts, Etc.: Friday, June 22 at 9:00 pm Solo performance opening for Tiny Hairs . 4612 N. Lincoln Avenue (next to the Davis Theater). Phone (773) 728-5010. New on Compact Disc: Winter Construction (dceo003) A compilation of Chicago artists with accompanying zine featuring tracks by MORA, Kyle Bruckmann, Eric Leonardson/Yasuhiro Otani, Rosenberg Skronktet, Fred Lonberg-Holm, the Flying Luttenbachers, Ernst Karel/ Brent Gutzeit/ Jason Soliday, Lozenge, Metallux, TV Pow, and others... available on-line . Listen to the High Zero 2000 Documentation Site http://www.highzero.org/highzero2000documentation/index.htm More info on the web: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 12:45:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19808; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:41:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:41:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Transceovr@aol.com Message-ID: <10c.15be29c.285a4314@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:40:52 EDT Subject: Re: Announcing HIGH ZERO 2001, Sept 13-16 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hello to all... I just wanted to (re)affirm erics message about the high zero festival in baltimore... this event is trully an incredible musical experience and shouldnt be missed by anyone in the area... high zero continues to infinitely expand many possible sound/performance boundaries year after year. I had the chance to video a performance at last years festival and it is one of my best/favorite documentary pieces of any recent local event. Ill definately be there this year! peace, Kelly From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 12:52:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20053; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:48:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:48:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:45:34 +0200 Subject: Re: a question From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3075389134_803463_MIME_Part" Message-ID: <15AaHT-2EX4caC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > DIESE NACHRICHT IST IN MIME-FORMAT. Da Ihr Mailreader dieses Format nicht unterstŸtzt, kšnnte diese Nachricht ganz oder teilweise unlesbar sein. --MS_Mac_OE_3075389134_803463_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hello Daniel, Well,I use the Notator since 1989.it still works amazing and in time. I have also the Mac-Versions of the inherent of Notator called Logic. But when it goes to timing,my old Atari and Notator will come back. I made the experience that both a more stable and solid in timing as the actual ones. I don=B4t know how you want use the click track for your work.But there are several ways to work with it.Also with such old good devices like Notator and Atari ! In Notator you have two possibilities to use Tempo changes.The fixed one an= d the relational one. For myself I prefer the fixed one.It is more flexible(from the point of view).In Editing Mode you can speed up or down the tempo by simple commands. Notator also allows it,to change the Tempo via routing to a continouis controller.This is interesting for live performers. If the material is already fixed from score(also from Tempo managmet) then use the the fixed Tempochange. I made good experiences withe the old Notator and so it is still a part of my Setup, Wether the modern Mac nor the modern Wintel could convince me for Midirelated material, so the old fucking Atari and the old Notator are having a fine barbecue party in my Setup. With your Notator you have already an exactly Tempo Modulating machine.As long there is no real change in Midi,you can trust also these old devices. Martyw ---------- Von: "Daniel Pezzotti" An: Betreff: a question Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 15:09 Uhr Dear looper-friends, I'm a cellist from Zurich (Switzerland) and I would have a question....it's not really loop-related but who knows, somebody can help........ I would like to know how a can prepare a click - track for a studio recording......means...prepare a click for a piece of music which includes tempo and rhythm-changes... is there a software for this? Till now I did it trough exporting Midi-files from Notator-software like Encore or Finale....it works, but maybe there is something better to use for..... Thanks in advance for any help and happy looping! Daniel Pezzotti --MS_Mac_OE_3075389134_803463_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: a question Hello Daniel,


Well,I use the Notator since 1989.it still works amazing and in time.
I have also the Mac-Versions of the inherent of Notator called Logic.
But when it goes to timing,my old Atari and Notator will come back.
I made the experience that both a more stable and solid in timing as the actual ones.

I don=B4t know how you want  use the click track for your work.But there=
are several ways to work with it.Also with such old good devices like
Notator and Atari !

In Notator you have two possibilities to use Tempo changes.The fixed one an= d the relational
one.
For myself I prefer the fixed one.It is more flexible(from the point of vie= w).In Editing Mode you
can speed up or down the tempo by simple commands.
Notator also allows it,to change the Tempo via routing to a continouis cont= roller.This is interesting
for live performers.
If the material is already fixed from score(also from Tempo managmet) then = use the the fixed
Tempochange.

I made good experiences withe the old Notator and so it is still a part of = my Setup,
Wether the modern Mac nor the modern Wintel could convince me for Midirelat= ed material,
so the old fucking Atari and the old Notator are having a fine barbecue par= ty in my Setup.

With your Notator you have already an exactly Tempo Modulating machine.As l= ong there is no
real change in Midi,you can trust also these old devices.

Martyw
----------
Von: "Daniel Pezzotti" <daniel.pezzotti@span.ch>
An: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Betreff: a question
Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 15:09 Uhr


Dear looper-friends,
I'm a cellist from Zurich (Switzerland) and I would have a question....it's= not really loop-related but who knows, somebody can help........
 
I would like to know how a can prepare a click - track for a= studio recording......means...prepare a click for a piece of music which in= cludes tempo and rhythm-changes...
is there a software for this?
Till now I did it trough exporting Midi-files from Notator-software like En= core or Finale....it works, but maybe there is something better to use for..= ...
Thanks in advance for any help and
happy looping!
 
Daniel Pezzotti

--MS_Mac_OE_3075389134_803463_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 14:00:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22563; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:53:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:53:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010614115754.007cfd90@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:57:54 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Cubase: Loops&Latency In-Reply-To: <3B27979C.795BCEF7@home.com> References: <200106112345.TAA17077@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Joe, sorry it took so long to respond, but yesterday was a slow e-mail day as I had a million things to do. Anyway, yes, I have a couple of thoughts on this. First, lemme' just more clearly go over exactly what I did. 1. set the tempo to that listed with your loop. (I'll use 100 bpm for this example) 2. import the file from the CD. 3. For myself, the loop is in stereo, so when I have it playing once through on tracks 1 and 2, then I'll select from measure 1, beat 1, tick 0, to measure 1, beat 4, tick 119 and COPY, (NOT CUT) the selection. (as I said earlier, that your software might use a different method of indexing) 4. Now, when you paste, paste the loop with the start point at measure 2, beat 1, tick 0, whatever number of times you'd like. If we're having the same problem, this should work. Now, as far as thoughts on why this is happening, I suspect it has to do with the midi clock on the sound blaster being out of sync with the sample rate. I've had instances where the audio or midi will drift from eachother, which don't seem to have another cause. I'm not an authority on it, but that's my best guess. Other things can interfere with timing, such as using one or two hard drives, or memory. Anyway, hope this helps... Smiles, Goddess At 12:41 PM 6/13/01 -0400, you wrote: > From: >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Joe, I've actually had the same >problem with another software package. what I di to solve it was simply to >set the bpm of the software to that listed with the loop I wanted to >import, and then import it. > >Thanks Goddess. This seems to work, particularly when I make sure that I >use the same sample rate that the loop was originally recorded at. There's >one piece of this puzzle missin though. Even once I have the loop working >audio wise, when I snip it and then try and cut and paste it into a new >bar, the resulting new audio all of sudden will not loop correctly again. I >beginning to wonder if this has to do with the latency of my cheapo >Soundblaster (audio buffers=5, buffer size=6000), or if I still don't have >the science of looping in Cubase down pat. Any thoughts? Frustratingly >yours...JoE > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 14:14:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24248; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:13:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:13:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4CCA@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: echoplex Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:12:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <6iMK_D.A.m6F.N6PK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey where can I buy an echoplex digital pro from besides sweetwater? Denis denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 14:22:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24448; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:19:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:19:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010614122341.007ce3a0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:23:41 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] In-Reply-To: <29544-3B27E93A-1251@storefull-611.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My neck o' the woods isn't actually all that far from yours, I believe. Mine is in the lovely Rocky Mountains of Colorado. *laughing* -Love the little piece at the bottom of your note! lol! OK, OK, I'd better mention something about looping in this or everyone's gonna get mad at me! "LOOPING RULES!!!" lollollol! Smiles, G-Girl At 04:29 PM 6/13/01 -0600, you wrote: >Far be it from me to dub myself "handsome"..........but what IS your >neck of the woods, Goddess ? > >;-) >James > >"Why did you never marry ?" an admirer asked the Mullah. >"Well, I promised myself that I would marry if I ever found the perfect >woman....." the Mullah replied. "I do remember meeting one >woman.......she was gorgeous and had a heart of gold....." >"So what happened ?" the admirer asked. >"Turned out that she was dumb as a brick." said the Mullah >"And you never met anyone else ?" the admirer enquired. >"Oh, I did meet another woman. She too was very kind and we had the most >fascinating conversations......" >"So where is she ?" the admirer begged. >"She was so ugly that I could not bear to look her straight in the >face." responded the Mullah. >"And you never met ANYONE else ?" the tedious admirer continued. >"Ahhhhhhh, YES" answered the Mullah, " I did once meet a woman as >beautiful as a desert rose, with a keen wit and a heart of sheer >innocence !" >"Then WHY did you not keep your promise and marry HER ?" the admirer >protested. >"As it turned out" concluded the Mullah, " SHE was looking for the >perfect man !" > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 14:35:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24876; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:33:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:33:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:30:50 +0200 Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out Garden Party 2] From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <15AbvL-14DlEeC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA24841 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What a great googlee Mooglee, Claude and Mathias,or Mathias and Claude have a chill out garden party. A big loopers event and night. I will try to come to this session. And to all loopers of the european countries ! Don´t miss it. REMEMBER JUNE 23 ! Marty ---------- >Von: Claude Voit >An: Loopers-Delight >Betreff: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out Garden Party 2] >Datum: Mit, 13. Jun 2001 18:35 Uhr > >Hey Swiss guy's n girls (are there any ?) > >Matthias and Claude are back on the Geneva lake borders for our second >"Chill out Garden Party" or "musiques planantes pour coucher de soleil" > >it will be held Sat June 23 in Nyon Switzerland during "fete de la >musique" >in a lovely park facing lake and Mt Blanc >250 m by feet from the port dir Geneva on the lakeside > >from 20h30 to total night with the encore as the moon rises... > >Total improv, tribal grooves, noizes, and heavens are on the menu with >two of the most handsome dudes in Looping business. > >Matthias : polysubbass/polydistortion guitar ,EDP's,lexicon reverbs and >beautiful notes >Claude Acoustic and ac./midi guitars, vortex,EdPs, 4pole, sequencer and >groovy tone > >Be there and say hello > >Claude > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 14:43:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25093; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:42:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:42:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B29208D.95759DEE@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:37:33 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] References: <15AbvL-14DlEeC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Martin Tauchen wrote: > > What a great googlee Mooglee, > > Claude and Mathias,or Mathias and Claude have a chill out garden party. > A big loopers event and night. > > I will try to come to this session. > > And to all loopers of the european countries ! Don´t miss it. > > REMEMBER JUNE 23 ! > Marty Hey just ask if you need some shelter we now just hope the weather be handsome too ,,, Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 15:00:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25437; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:58:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:58:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:53:32 +0200 Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <15AcIn-1svuRUC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA25406 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Claude, for myself there is no need for a shelter.:-) I like the weather of Iceland.I am a great Iceland crack,so the weather in CH, will not keep me away ! And what a fortune to see Matthias and Claude on stage.Great. If some third party help is needed,I will cook for you coffee and so on. But I will be there,and I hope a lot of european loopers too. At least I would also snibble tons of onions,only to join this event ! Is thart a deal ? :-) Marty ---------- >Von: Claude Voit >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] >Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 22:37 Uhr > >Martin Tauchen wrote: >> >> What a great googlee Mooglee, >> >> Claude and Mathias,or Mathias and Claude have a chill out garden party. >> A big loopers event and night. >> >> I will try to come to this session. >> >> And to all loopers of the european countries ! Don´t miss it. >> >> REMEMBER JUNE 23 ! >> >Marty > >Hey just ask if you need some shelter > >we now just hope the weather be handsome too ,,, > >Claude > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 15:15:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26803; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:13:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:13:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2927E9.264D3153@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:08:57 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill outGardenParty 2] References: <15AcIn-1svuRUC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Martin Tauchen wrote: > > Claude, > > for myself there is no need for a shelter.:-) > > I like the weather of Iceland.I am a great Iceland crack,so the weather in > CH, > will not keep me away ! Yes but we are playing outside in a park with no stage, no tent so if it rains we're stuck for the concert but we'll play anyways somewhere else (don't know yet but we'll play) > And what a fortune to see Matthias and Claude on stage.Great. > If some third party help is needed,I will cook for you coffee and so on. is making coffee cooking ?? > But I will be there,and I hope a lot of european loopers too. > > At least I would also snibble tons of onions,only to join this event ! > Is thart a deal ? :-) snibble onions ???????? claude there will also be a very private Repeater test/ride for those from the list that will show up with a behringer T-shirt :O) > Marty > > ---------- > >Von: Claude Voit > >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Betreff: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] > >Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 22:37 Uhr > > > > >Martin Tauchen wrote: > >> > >> What a great googlee Mooglee, > >> > >> Claude and Mathias,or Mathias and Claude have a chill out garden party. > >> A big loopers event and night. > >> > >> I will try to come to this session. > >> > >> And to all loopers of the european countries ! Don´t miss it. > >> > >> REMEMBER JUNE 23 ! > >> > >Marty > > > >Hey just ask if you need some shelter > > > >we now just hope the weather be handsome too ,,, > > > >Claude > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 15:24:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27102; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:22:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:22:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Dylan B DeAnda" To: Subject: RE: echoplex Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:22:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4CCA@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Contact L.A. Music Service, they had 6...now 5, last week when I bought mine. Prices are good. Ask for Michael. They are in LA, CA, not LA, Looosiana. D Thanks and Best Regards, Dylan B. DeAnda dylan@loudcloud.com 408-744-7678 -----Original Message----- From: Taaffe, Denis G [mailto:dtaaffe@indiana.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:12 AM To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' Subject: echoplex Hey where can I buy an echoplex digital pro from besides sweetwater? Denis denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 15:31:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27340; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:30:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:30:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004301c0f508$7c1b95e0$0642f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106121640.MAA00818@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re:New York Loopers, West Coast Loopers Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:30:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <60W_1D.A.wqG.uCRK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Eric Leonardson wrote: "Perhaps a Looping Festival suggests a genre or aesthetic that musicians don't want to be pegged in, or identified with, even though that's not necessarily so. (amongst other thoughtful things)" Very good point, Eric, and it just reveals my own myopia. I, and a small community near me fiercely identify with the idea of being solo live loopers. Because the form is not well understood or accepted, we have had to fight very hard to be accepted (or to get gigs) and we have to constantly educate and foment along the way. As a professional I, of course, do many gigs and genres of music that involve no looping and of course, I use my looper to create effects that an average audience would never identify as looping. I'm just a fanatic and a convert (the most dangerous and obnoxious kind) but probably no worse than I was when I first discovered (starting in 1965): Rock,Soul, Funk, Blues,Sensitive Singer Songwriters, Prog Rock, Classical music, Jazz , Jazz Fusion, Avante Garde music, Serial Minimalism, Electronic music,New Wave and Punk,Reggae,African musican, World music, Hip Hop/Sampling, Trip Hop,Jungle and Abstract Electronica---I think that I have been compulsive and addicted to music all of my life----why stop now? Wow, that is incredible, Eric, I have never stopped and written down (in order, no less) all of the musical obsessions that I have had in my life. That list is like looking at a timeline of myself. It kind of jumps around too, don't you think? I know of more than a few musicians in this town who are mystified by the fact that I am not out playing the drumset (which I've played the longest and have, probably, the most skill at) these days. I love drumming, actually. I just drum until it sounds perfect, then I loop it :-). There's something about filtering the loop in real time and then using it to vocode a vocal loop that I'm using that just gets me good. I guess I'd rather manipulate the loops electronically than play endless gratuitous hi hat ornaments with my prodigious technique ;-) The upside of it all, I suppose, is that I've created a lot of venues for artists in the last few years and a lot of publicity for Looping and Electronica in my home town, and I've helped get several young musicians started on a path (with some emotional support behind them which is what I never had). I realize I can be a bit on the overbearing side throughout it all. however. I suppose I can relax and try to embody an important concept that I have learned: "every character defect can be a character asset if used with self conciousness". Thanks for the perspective...........and loop on, imperceptively, your friend, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 15:36:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27471; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:34:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:34:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:31:18 +0200 Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill outGardenParty 2] From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <15Acrr-23agy0C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id PAA27442 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Claude, well,if also in rain or dust,I will be there.Maybe the local "Buergermeister" will offer an place wich will be protected from natuaral aleatorism. Hehehehe....got the joke.You will not see me with a Behringer shirt.Nevertheless I hope that I will get a Repeateater testimony then ! Once again,I don´t speak for Behringer.I know that Behringer copies a lot of designs,but mostly in an economic operating space,where it is not interesting for other companies to operate. Behringer sells the tech of yesterday for an affordable price.That´s all..... The economical side of a product is alöways different to its qaulity side. And when I am snibbling the onions,you wil not find one with a Behringer display ! Guaranteed ! Marty ---------- >Von: Claude Voit >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill outGardenParty 2] >Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 23:08 Uhr > >Martin Tauchen wrote: >> >> Claude, >> >> for myself there is no need for a shelter.:-) >> >> I like the weather of Iceland.I am a great Iceland crack,so the weather in >> CH, >> will not keep me away ! > >Yes but we are playing outside in a park with no stage, no tent >so if it rains we're stuck for the concert but we'll play anyways >somewhere else (don't know yet but we'll play) > > >> And what a fortune to see Matthias and Claude on stage.Great. >> If some third party help is needed,I will cook for you coffee and so on. >is making coffee cooking ?? > >> But I will be there,and I hope a lot of european loopers too. >> >> At least I would also snibble tons of onions,only to join this event ! >> Is thart a deal ? :-) >snibble onions ???????? > >claude > >there will also be a very private Repeater test/ride for those from the >list that will show up >with a behringer T-shirt > >:O) > > >> Marty >> >> ---------- >> >Von: Claude Voit >> >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >Betreff: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] >> >Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 22:37 Uhr >> > >> >> >Martin Tauchen wrote: >> >> >> >> What a great googlee Mooglee, >> >> >> >> Claude and Mathias,or Mathias and Claude have a chill out garden party. >> >> A big loopers event and night. >> >> >> >> I will try to come to this session. >> >> >> >> And to all loopers of the european countries ! Don´t miss it. >> >> >> >> REMEMBER JUNE 23 ! >> >> >> >Marty >> > >> >Hey just ask if you need some shelter >> > >> >we now just hope the weather be handsome too ,,, >> > >> >Claude >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 15:59:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27989; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:56:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:56:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <018101c0f50b$d51e6c00$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <15AcIn-1svuRUC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> <3B2927E9.264D3153@vtx.ch> Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill outGardenParty 2] Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:54:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > there will also be a very private Repeater test/ride for those from the > list that will show up > with a behringer T-shirt > > :O) But of course, the Behringer T-shirt design looks identical to the Mackie T-shirt design... :D Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 16:13:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29320; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:06:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:06:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010614141038.007c2960@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:10:38 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: looping with a Vocoder In-Reply-To: <15AXhl-0y0ViSC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -Just curious, does anyone know how many bands the electrix vocoder has? Thanks, G At 04:00 PM 6/14/01 +0200, you wrote: > Yeah,a real fine topic for LD ! > >I use since five years an analog Vocoder/Filterbank as an extraordinary >effectdevice in my Setup. >Most people think about a Vocoder,that it is a tool to make Robotvoices >based on a Saw-wave. >To difference my usage from this public prejudice,I call this device just >VCA controlled Filterbank. >It is very flexible to use for filtering or selected Filterband >distortion(if it is analog). >It can realize Pseudophasing effects,Filtersweeps,Singlebanddistortion and >so much more. >And at least you can use it as an pseudo EQ,based on the Formants of the >humans voice.As the Filters >are working very sharp,it has a different quality to "normal" EQs. >Use a Sinewave pitchshifting over a a space about +/- 4 octaves(a Casio VZ1 >offers such a strong >modulation for example).Then you can hear how a really narrow bandwith of >overtones will be faded in >and out.Really a fine Filtersweep simulation. >Mostly I use the Vocoder not for extreme effects. > >For my Livesetup I use an analog MAMVF11.Not the Ultima Ratio,but works OK >and can be adjusted fast >in a Live situation.In STudio I use a Software 22Band Vocoder wich is >softwarebased. >Both solutions are OK,but will not make me say that they are great. >For the future I hope,that there will be a Vocoder/Filterbank,wich can be >adjusted easily like my >analog one,but has a fine soundquality(without the analog noise) and a wider >spreaded Filterband. >Maybe 48 Bands. > >Nevertheless,the Vocoder/Filterbank is a very important part of my Setup ! >And like Rick I never >used the "ROBOT"-function of this device.Hmmmmmmmm...? Maybe only to amuse >my little son and >nephews on a birthday party. :-) > >A Vocoder/Filterbank is a great tool to shape a sound.So I only recommend it >! > > >Marty > > >---------- >>Von: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" >>An: >>Betreff: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder >>Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 8:58 Uhr >> > >>Nope, Simran, my glitch was caused by turning up the robot pitch knob >>(I should have know that buying ANYTHING with a robot pitch knob was >>getting me on to thin ice). This introduces a sine wave, believe and it is >>incredibly touchy. >>Good luck. I love my vocoder for looping or affecting loops once they are >>running. You can sweep up the overtone series with your voice, turn on the >>freeze formant knob and then release it at the end of your 'solo' whilst you >>sweep down the overtone series with your voice. Taking synth pads >>and vocoding them with drum machine patterns or loops is very, very cool as >>well. I have yet to use the 'classic' vocoder voice sound (and probably may >>never since I am cliche phobic). >> >>Later, Rick >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 16:19:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29642; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:18:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:18:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003f01c0f50f$85116c40$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010614141038.007c2960@mail.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: looping with a Vocoder Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:20:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 24 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goddess" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: Re: looping with a Vocoder > -Just curious, does anyone know how many bands the electrix vocoder has? > > Thanks, > > G > > At 04:00 PM 6/14/01 +0200, you wrote: > > Yeah,a real fine topic for LD ! > > > >I use since five years an analog Vocoder/Filterbank as an extraordinary > >effectdevice in my Setup. > >Most people think about a Vocoder,that it is a tool to make Robotvoices > >based on a Saw-wave. > >To difference my usage from this public prejudice,I call this device just > >VCA controlled Filterbank. > >It is very flexible to use for filtering or selected Filterband > >distortion(if it is analog). > >It can realize Pseudophasing effects,Filtersweeps,Singlebanddistortion and > >so much more. > >And at least you can use it as an pseudo EQ,based on the Formants of the > >humans voice.As the Filters > >are working very sharp,it has a different quality to "normal" EQs. > >Use a Sinewave pitchshifting over a a space about +/- 4 octaves(a Casio VZ1 > >offers such a strong > >modulation for example).Then you can hear how a really narrow bandwith of > >overtones will be faded in > >and out.Really a fine Filtersweep simulation. > >Mostly I use the Vocoder not for extreme effects. > > > >For my Livesetup I use an analog MAMVF11.Not the Ultima Ratio,but works OK > >and can be adjusted fast > >in a Live situation.In STudio I use a Software 22Band Vocoder wich is > >softwarebased. > >Both solutions are OK,but will not make me say that they are great. > >For the future I hope,that there will be a Vocoder/Filterbank,wich can be > >adjusted easily like my > >analog one,but has a fine soundquality(without the analog noise) and a wider > >spreaded Filterband. > >Maybe 48 Bands. > > > >Nevertheless,the Vocoder/Filterbank is a very important part of my Setup ! > >And like Rick I never > >used the "ROBOT"-function of this device.Hmmmmmmmm...? Maybe only to amuse > >my little son and > >nephews on a birthday party. :-) > > > >A Vocoder/Filterbank is a great tool to shape a sound.So I only recommend it > >! > > > > > >Marty > > > > > >---------- > >>Von: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" > >>An: > >>Betreff: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder > >>Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 8:58 Uhr > >> > > > >>Nope, Simran, my glitch was caused by turning up the robot pitch knob > >>(I should have know that buying ANYTHING with a robot pitch knob was > >>getting me on to thin ice). This introduces a sine wave, believe and it is > >>incredibly touchy. > >>Good luck. I love my vocoder for looping or affecting loops once they are > >>running. You can sweep up the overtone series with your voice, turn on the > >>freeze formant knob and then release it at the end of your 'solo' whilst you > >>sweep down the overtone series with your voice. Taking synth pads > >>and vocoding them with drum machine patterns or loops is very, very cool as > >>well. I have yet to use the 'classic' vocoder voice sound (and probably may > >>never since I am cliche phobic). > >> > >>Later, Rick > >> > > > > > > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 16:31:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA30022; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:29:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:29:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010614143333.0081caa0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:33:33 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: looping with a Vocoder In-Reply-To: <003f01c0f50f$85116c40$7bb387d8@cliff> References: <3.0.5.32.20010614141038.007c2960@mail.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks much, was just curious as I was considering buying one. Is that the Warp Factory? I'm currently using an SE-70 which I believe, is 21 band. *laughing* anyway, blah blah blah... Thanks... Smiles, G At 01:20 PM 6/14/01 -0700, you wrote: >24 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Goddess" >To: >Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:10 PM >Subject: Re: looping with a Vocoder > > >> -Just curious, does anyone know how many bands the electrix vocoder has? >> >> Thanks, >> >> G >> >> At 04:00 PM 6/14/01 +0200, you wrote: >> > Yeah,a real fine topic for LD ! >> > >> >I use since five years an analog Vocoder/Filterbank as an extraordinary >> >effectdevice in my Setup. >> >Most people think about a Vocoder,that it is a tool to make Robotvoices >> >based on a Saw-wave. >> >To difference my usage from this public prejudice,I call this device just >> >VCA controlled Filterbank. >> >It is very flexible to use for filtering or selected Filterband >> >distortion(if it is analog). >> >It can realize Pseudophasing effects,Filtersweeps,Singlebanddistortion >and >> >so much more. >> >And at least you can use it as an pseudo EQ,based on the Formants of the >> >humans voice.As the Filters >> >are working very sharp,it has a different quality to "normal" EQs. >> >Use a Sinewave pitchshifting over a a space about +/- 4 octaves(a Casio >VZ1 >> >offers such a strong >> >modulation for example).Then you can hear how a really narrow bandwith of >> >overtones will be faded in >> >and out.Really a fine Filtersweep simulation. >> >Mostly I use the Vocoder not for extreme effects. >> > >> >For my Livesetup I use an analog MAMVF11.Not the Ultima Ratio,but works >OK >> >and can be adjusted fast >> >in a Live situation.In STudio I use a Software 22Band Vocoder wich is >> >softwarebased. >> >Both solutions are OK,but will not make me say that they are great. >> >For the future I hope,that there will be a Vocoder/Filterbank,wich can be >> >adjusted easily like my >> >analog one,but has a fine soundquality(without the analog noise) and a >wider >> >spreaded Filterband. >> >Maybe 48 Bands. >> > >> >Nevertheless,the Vocoder/Filterbank is a very important part of my Setup >! >> >And like Rick I never >> >used the "ROBOT"-function of this device.Hmmmmmmmm...? Maybe only to >amuse >> >my little son and >> >nephews on a birthday party. :-) >> > >> >A Vocoder/Filterbank is a great tool to shape a sound.So I only recommend >it >> >! >> > >> > >> >Marty >> > >> > >> >---------- >> >>Von: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" >> >>An: >> >>Betreff: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder >> >>Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 8:58 Uhr >> >> >> > >> >>Nope, Simran, my glitch was caused by turning up the robot pitch knob >> >>(I should have know that buying ANYTHING with a robot pitch knob was >> >>getting me on to thin ice). This introduces a sine wave, believe and >it is >> >>incredibly touchy. >> >>Good luck. I love my vocoder for looping or affecting loops once they >are >> >>running. You can sweep up the overtone series with your voice, turn on >the >> >>freeze formant knob and then release it at the end of your 'solo' whilst >you >> >>sweep down the overtone series with your voice. Taking synth pads >> >>and vocoding them with drum machine patterns or loops is very, very cool >as >> >>well. I have yet to use the 'classic' vocoder voice sound (and probably >may >> >>never since I am cliche phobic). >> >> >> >>Later, Rick >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> --- >> >> "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. >> -Then, anything is possible..." >> >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 16:34:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA30220; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:32:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:32:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B291F38.93F870A0@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:32:17 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Repeater Eve References: <3.0.5.32.20010614141038.007c2960@mail.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <85ExtD.A.tXH.H9RK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So, I was told be the Electrix rep at Banana's At Large that the Repeater was due in stores on the 15th of this month. As I look at my calendar, that would be tomorrow. I doesn't say anything on the Electrix site, but Musician's Fiend says, "Availability: Due: 06-14-2001" (Police cars also say, "To serve and to protect" so I know not to believe everything I read.) Anyone know the scoop? I'm all excited, but Electrix has been awful quite for a while. My Warp Factory and my MO-FX are VERY lonely. However, my JamMan is no longer speaking to me. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 16:36:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA30346; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:35:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:35:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005701c0f511$e19bb0e0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010614141038.007c2960@mail.earthlink.net> <3.0.5.32.20010614143333.0081caa0@mail.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: looping with a Vocoder Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:37:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.electrixpro.com/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goddess" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Re: looping with a Vocoder > Thanks much, was just curious as I was considering buying one. Is that > the Warp Factory? I'm currently using an SE-70 which I believe, is 21 > band. *laughing* anyway, blah blah blah... Thanks... > > Smiles, > > G > > At 01:20 PM 6/14/01 -0700, you wrote: > >24 > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Goddess" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:10 PM > >Subject: Re: looping with a Vocoder > > > > > >> -Just curious, does anyone know how many bands the electrix vocoder has? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> G > >> > >> At 04:00 PM 6/14/01 +0200, you wrote: > >> > Yeah,a real fine topic for LD ! > >> > > >> >I use since five years an analog Vocoder/Filterbank as an extraordinary > >> >effectdevice in my Setup. > >> >Most people think about a Vocoder,that it is a tool to make Robotvoices > >> >based on a Saw-wave. > >> >To difference my usage from this public prejudice,I call this device just > >> >VCA controlled Filterbank. > >> >It is very flexible to use for filtering or selected Filterband > >> >distortion(if it is analog). > >> >It can realize Pseudophasing effects,Filtersweeps,Singlebanddistortion > >and > >> >so much more. > >> >And at least you can use it as an pseudo EQ,based on the Formants of the > >> >humans voice.As the Filters > >> >are working very sharp,it has a different quality to "normal" EQs. > >> >Use a Sinewave pitchshifting over a a space about +/- 4 octaves(a Casio > >VZ1 > >> >offers such a strong > >> >modulation for example).Then you can hear how a really narrow bandwith of > >> >overtones will be faded in > >> >and out.Really a fine Filtersweep simulation. > >> >Mostly I use the Vocoder not for extreme effects. > >> > > >> >For my Livesetup I use an analog MAMVF11.Not the Ultima Ratio,but works > >OK > >> >and can be adjusted fast > >> >in a Live situation.In STudio I use a Software 22Band Vocoder wich is > >> >softwarebased. > >> >Both solutions are OK,but will not make me say that they are great. > >> >For the future I hope,that there will be a Vocoder/Filterbank,wich can be > >> >adjusted easily like my > >> >analog one,but has a fine soundquality(without the analog noise) and a > >wider > >> >spreaded Filterband. > >> >Maybe 48 Bands. > >> > > >> >Nevertheless,the Vocoder/Filterbank is a very important part of my Setup > >! > >> >And like Rick I never > >> >used the "ROBOT"-function of this device.Hmmmmmmmm...? Maybe only to > >amuse > >> >my little son and > >> >nephews on a birthday party. :-) > >> > > >> >A Vocoder/Filterbank is a great tool to shape a sound.So I only recommend > >it > >> >! > >> > > >> > > >> >Marty > >> > > >> > > >> >---------- > >> >>Von: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" > >> >>An: > >> >>Betreff: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder > >> >>Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 8:58 Uhr > >> >> > >> > > >> >>Nope, Simran, my glitch was caused by turning up the robot pitch knob > >> >>(I should have know that buying ANYTHING with a robot pitch knob was > >> >>getting me on to thin ice). This introduces a sine wave, believe and > >it is > >> >>incredibly touchy. > >> >>Good luck. I love my vocoder for looping or affecting loops once they > >are > >> >>running. You can sweep up the overtone series with your voice, turn on > >the > >> >>freeze formant knob and then release it at the end of your 'solo' whilst > >you > >> >>sweep down the overtone series with your voice. Taking synth pads > >> >>and vocoding them with drum machine patterns or loops is very, very cool > >as > >> >>well. I have yet to use the 'classic' vocoder voice sound (and probably > >may > >> >>never since I am cliche phobic). > >> >> > >> >>Later, Rick > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> --- > >> > >> "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > >> -Then, anything is possible..." > >> > >> > > > > > > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 16:49:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA30693; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:47:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:47:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2922A2.636191D5@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:46:51 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: marriage loops (was: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] References: <15AbvL-14DlEeC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> <3B29208D.95759DEE@vtx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2XfqiB.A.bfH.sKSK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > REMEMBER JUNE 23 ! I'd better not forget that date. I'm getting married in San Fransicso on that day! I was thinking of starting our ceremony by starting a loop and when it got to where I wanted it, I'd lower it and we'd do the vows over it. However, it's going to be a totally home spun thing at a friends house, in their backyard, and I realize that I don't want to be burdened with gear to worry about. The set up would have to be small anyway, as room is limited. Should I go for it? I'm also afraid of my focus level, as I tend to get fixated before a performance, even small ones. Some of my DJ friends offered to spin, but we opted for mix cds, as we want to enjoy our friends, and vise versa. Thoughts? Ideas? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 17:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32098; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:01:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:01:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <018001c0f515$25b65ac0$0642f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106142036.QAA30423@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: Repeater Eve Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:01:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <_P8YOB.A.80H.qXSK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mark Sottilaro wrote about the impending Repeater onslaught: "However, my JamMan is no longer speaking to me." Just make sure that you give your Jamman some of your old stomp box petals in the divorce settlement. That should mollify him/her. And you think you have problems, I have three fully expanded Jampersons in my rack and, boy are they nervous ;-) Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 17:12:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32326; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:06:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:06:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200106142105.OAA17881@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:08:08 -0700 Subject: Re: marriage loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5dADk.A.i4H.rcSK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com in my little world anyway-go for it!! music is in the air for only those moments to be gone forever marriages last forever(hopefully!!) ~idealistically~ stanner ---------- >From: Mark Sottilaro >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: marriage loops (was: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] >Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2001, 1:46 PM > >> REMEMBER JUNE 23 ! > >I'd better not forget that date. I'm getting married in San Fransicso >on that day! > >I was thinking of starting our ceremony by starting a loop and when it >got to where I wanted it, I'd lower it and we'd do the vows over it. >However, it's going to be a totally home spun thing at a friends house, >in their backyard, and I realize that I don't want to be burdened with >gear to worry about. The set up would have to be small anyway, as room >is limited. Should I go for it? I'm also afraid of my focus level, as >I tend to get fixated before a performance, even small ones. Some of my >DJ friends offered to spin, but we opted for mix cds, as we want to >enjoy our friends, and vise versa. Thoughts? Ideas? > >Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 17:12:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32273; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:05:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:05:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700 To: "diatom drone" From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: home studios? Cc: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in >advance! > >jon I have some slightly outdated photos of my studio, the Blinky Room, here: http://www.newandimprov.com/blinky.html Since taking those (admittedly crummy) photos, I've added some more to the modular synth, and added a Hammond M3. Basic layout of the space is the same, though. ____________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org New & Improv Media http://www.newandimprov.com Now available: Minus: Dark Lit ____________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 17:13:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32336; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:06:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:06:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001d01c0f516$4cbe4f00$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010614141038.007c2960@mail.earthlink.net> <3B291F38.93F870A0@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Repeater Eve Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:09:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My EDP, Jam-Man, WarpFactory, Flter Factory, and Mo-Fx keep me up with their raging parties and non stop noise making- my Jam-Man loves repeating things the others say and when crtically bent begins repeating things backwards in tempo with the conversation- Treat your Jammie right you brute! Om ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: <> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: Repeater Eve > So, I was told be the Electrix rep at Banana's At Large that the > Repeater was due in stores on the 15th of this month. As I look at my > calendar, that would be tomorrow. I doesn't say anything on the > Electrix site, but Musician's Fiend says, "Availability: Due: > 06-14-2001" (Police cars also say, "To serve and to protect" so I know > not to believe everything I read.) Anyone know the scoop? I'm all > excited, but Electrix has been awful quite for a while. My Warp Factory > and my MO-FX are VERY lonely. However, my JamMan is no longer speaking > to me. > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 17:16:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32438; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:09:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:09:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: muman@eskimo.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:09:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Electrix Sale Priority: normal In-reply-to: <001301c0f43a$ea5b33e0$7bb387d8@cliff> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greetings, I got all my Electrix at Guitar Center: 3 Mo-Fx, 3 Filter Factory, 1 Warp Factory. I cancelled my order with Musician's Friend. The way I did it was I pre-paid for the units, so as they came in, I got them. The guitar center in Lynwood, WA just got a new batch of all of these units. My guess, is that all of the GC's got a new batch. If your GC does not have what you want, have them ship it from another store. You can also ask a knowledgeable salesperson to look up on their computer to see if they ordered any more. I hope this helps. Louis Hesselt-van-Dinter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 17:51:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01081; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:48:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:48:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01b301c0f51b$74848d60$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <15AbvL-14DlEeC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> <3B29208D.95759DEE@vtx.ch> <3B2922A2.636191D5@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: marriage loops (was: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:46:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Many happy thoughts and congratulations, Mark! Thoughts and ideas: You will probably have a lot on your mind already that day. So I'd make it as *simple* and *easy* (read that *stress-free* and *joyful*) as possible. If you want to loop, prepare all equipment the previous day. If you're concerned about focus, you can just skip looping before the ceremony and do that afterwards. (Afterwords, of course, you can loop the ceremony...you ARE recording it, right?) Or have a friend loop. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 18:13:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02678; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:05:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:05:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.200.129.67] Reply-To: jon.wagner@stanfordalumni.org From: "Jon Wagner" To: Loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Guitar Center and Electrix Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:04:04 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2001 22:04:04.0520 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECFC7A80:01C0F51D] Resent-Message-ID: <33N8tD.A.cp.zTTK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've heard talk of people being bummed to have "missed out" on the Electrix deals. For those people's information, I just finished ordering a Filter Factory and a Mo_FX from guitar center in Concord, CA. They have 5 and 10 in stock in the store, respectively (I didn't ask about the other boxes). They will drop ship via UPS only to the billing adress on the credit card you use to purchase it. (925) 363-7770 Don't tell them I told you:) Jon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 18:35:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03300; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:28:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:28:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007701c0f521$68b51e40$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: Subject: improv voice loops Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:29:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0074_01C0F4FF.E1698280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01C0F4FF.E1698280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am new to this list, and am wondering what others use voice as their = primary sound source for loop composition and performance (real-time = sampling)?=20 Also, has anyone explored the topic of speech therapy by using equipment = such as a Jam Man to provide automatic feedback for self-correction? I wish more loopers performed here in Orlando. I can't bear to see = another singer-songwriter with an acoustic guitar!! Jehn ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01C0F4FF.E1698280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Am new to this list, and am wondering = what others=20 use voice as their primary sound source for loop composition and=20 performance (real-time sampling)?
 
Also, has anyone explored the topic of = speech=20 therapy by using equipment such as a Jam Man to provide automatic = feedback for=20 self-correction?
 
I wish more loopers performed here in = Orlando. I=20 can't bear to see another singer-songwriter with an acoustic=20 guitar!!
 
Jehn
------=_NextPart_000_0074_01C0F4FF.E1698280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 19:03:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05071; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:02:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:02:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Todd Pafford To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: musician's fiend Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:05:05 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010614112103.00a30040@mail.pdfsystems.com> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010614112103.00a30040@mail.pdfsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061419050500.07078@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, anti:clockwise wrote: > oh god, here we go again... With all this negative energy flowing in Musician's Friend's direction, I wanted to pipe up and say that I've never had a bad experience with them. Now, I don't want to defend this corporate giant that has obviously offended so many of you, but I also don't think that such a one-sided picture is in everyone's best interest. So, until they turn their malicious ineptitude my way, I'll not hesitate to order gear from them (or Guitar Center for that matter). And besides, drooling over the gear in their catalogue makes for interesting bathroom reading if nothing else. :) Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 19:28:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05518; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:24:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:24:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:23:33 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Eve To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Mark-Its Jon from Alto.They should be shipping this month-probably towards the last week.That's the latest- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 19:30:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05632; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:27:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:27:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a001c0f529$86f8f220$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <007701c0f521$68b51e40$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: improv voice loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:26:58 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Actually, the piece "Mmmm" is so named because its base loop is my voice in several layers of loop singing "Mmmmmmmmm...." See http://www.earthlight.net/MmmmTest.html (a test page in progress). ----- Original Message ----- From: Jehn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: 14 June 2001 23:29 PM Subject: improv voice loops Am new to this list, and am wondering what others use voice as their primary sound source for loop composition and performance (real-time sampling)? Also, has anyone explored the topic of speech therapy by using equipment such as a Jam Man to provide automatic feedback for self-correction? I wish more loopers performed here in Orlando. I can't bear to see another singer-songwriter with an acoustic guitar!! Jehn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 19:32:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05573; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:26:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:26:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:25:08 EDT Subject: Re: echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Alto Music has them in stock-845 692 6922 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 21:02:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09605; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:00:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:00:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:59:39 EDT Subject: Re: improv voice loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc.166b19cf.285ab7fb_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_cc.166b19cf.285ab7fb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jehn writes: > Am new to this list, and am wondering what others use voice as their primary > sound source for loop composition and performance (real-time sampling)? > jehn.....try CT-PROJECT "AKAPELLA" at www.loopxchange.com.....i dont think its anyones "primay" sound source but it is an idea of what some list members came up with when *limited* to just "voice".....michael n.p. miko biffle "pray i dont wake up".....yikes! --part1_cc.166b19cf.285ab7fb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jehn writes:


Am new to this list, and am wondering what others use voice as their primary
sound source for loop composition and performance (real-time sampling)?


jehn.....try CT-PROJECT "AKAPELLA" at www.loopxchange.com.....i dont think
its anyones "primay" sound source but it is an idea of what some list members
came up with when *limited* to just "voice".....michael
n.p. miko biffle "pray i dont wake up".....yikes! --part1_cc.166b19cf.285ab7fb_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 21:14:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09815; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:09:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:09:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17.172a6c57.285aba08@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:08:24 EDT Subject: heat + cds To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_17.172a6c57.285aba08_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <1pERpD.A.JZC.tAWK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_17.172a6c57.285aba08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit will heat mess up cds left in a car for a long period? loop cds of course.....michael --part1_17.172a6c57.285aba08_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit will heat mess up cds left in a car for a long period?  loop cds of
course.....michael --part1_17.172a6c57.285aba08_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 22:02:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10859; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:54:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:54:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c0f53e$1a03ad80$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <17.172a6c57.285aba08@aol.com> Subject: Re: heat + cds Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:54:22 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F546.7ACC5060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F546.7ACC5060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It can make them look similar in appearance to a moebius strip, dude. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: 15 June 2001 02:08 AM Subject: heat + cds will heat mess up cds left in a car for a long period? loop cds of=20 course.....michael=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F546.7ACC5060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It can make them look similar in appearance = to a=20 moebius strip, dude.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20
Sent: 15 June 2001 02:08 AM
Subject: heat + cds

will heat = mess up cds=20 left in a car for a long period?  loop cds of =
course.....michael=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F546.7ACC5060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 22:56:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA13463; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:54:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:54:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "J. Miranda V." To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: OT: Anybody want an old Mac Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:51:11 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F50B.5C79B7A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F50B.5C79B7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A friend of mine has an old Macintosh Performa 550 she would like to = sell. Would anybody have any use for this? Reply to me privately. I understand these machines are very MIDI friendly and that there is = still a lot of software that's usable. Sorry for the OT. Back to looping. J. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F50B.5C79B7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A = friend of mine=20 has an old Macintosh Performa 550 she would like to = sell.
 
Would = anybody have=20 any use for this?  Reply to me privately.
 
I = understand these=20 machines are very MIDI friendly and that there is still a lot of = software that's=20 usable.
 
Sorry = for the=20 OT.  Back to looping.
 
J.
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F50B.5C79B7A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 23:30:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA15291; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:28:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:28:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: THusken@aol.com Message-ID: <8d.8025a7e.285ada95@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:27:17 EDT Subject: Re: home studios? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8d.8025a7e.285ada95_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10524 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_8d.8025a7e.285ada95_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Dave, great photos and info on your studio. I think it would be great to see other loopers studios...how 'bout it people? -Todd --part1_8d.8025a7e.285ada95_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Dave, great photos and info on your studio.  I think it would be great to
see other loopers studios...how 'bout it people?   -Todd --part1_8d.8025a7e.285ada95_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 14 23:59:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA15949; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:56:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:56:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010615035537.68712.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: RE: echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Dylan B DeAnda wrote: > Contact L.A. Music Service, they had 6...now 5, last > week when I bought > mine. Prices are good. > > Ask for Michael. > > They are in LA, CA, not LA, Looosiana. Thank you for the clarification. I thought you were referring to Lower Alabama. :) John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 01:14:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA19492; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:12:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:12:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010614231517.00809d30@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:15:17 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: heat + cds In-Reply-To: <17.172a6c57.285aba08@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com that would be a big YES!!! Especially if they're recordable or rewriteable. Smiles, G At 09:08 PM 6/14/01 EDT, you wrote: > loop cds of >course.....michael --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 01:39:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20118; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:37:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:37:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAlFg2oFHd+YafmIrTY0tCiII6GGsCFEHww6SRCRX0OD/jfcNIUHGKDDgl From: jth3@webtv.net (James Hines) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:36:52 -0600 (MDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [GIG] NYON CH Claude Voit & Matthias Grob [Chill out GardenParty 2] Message-ID: <11197-3B299EF4-1773@storefull-611.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Goddess 's message of Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:23:41 -0600 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <5800xB.A.C6E.57ZK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com LOOP. This message has been "loop encoded" to evade the censorship of any anal retentive hosts. LOOP Dear Goddess, LOOP. Close to your neck of the woods, hell I'm right in the middle. Echoplex. Well, OK the southern tip. Jamman. Whether I am handsome or not - that is a matter of taste. PCM 42. But I am definitely NOT perfect. Electrix Repeater. I'm guessing you live in Boulder and even wondering if you might have a friend named Laurel in Santa Fe. Loop. Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 01:52:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17821; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:46:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:46:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200106150446.VAA21327@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: echoplex Resent-Message-ID: <7z4XZ.A.RWE.cMZK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Bananas has them as well. 415-457-7600 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 03:00:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22566; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:58:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:58:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:26:31 +0100 Subject: OT: Digitech Whammy Help! From: Victor Nicholls To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have some gigs looming and my (original model) Whammy pedal has crapped out - power loss/digital hash etc. Do any UK LDers know anyone who can repair these pedals? Does anyone have one they want to sell? victor From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 06:20:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29303; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:12:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:12:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ab01c0f583$a0f4e9e0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <8d.8025a7e.285ada95@aol.com> Subject: Request for Information Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:11:59 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <8U6ZjD.A.gJH.59dK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I would like to hear from all here who have been concerned, troubled, or otherwise spiffed off by mp3.com via separate email to spgoodman@earthlight.net. This would include those of you who don't know where else to post your material than mp3.com, or do so AND get your music heard. Thanks in advance. Stephen Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 07:05:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA30006; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:58:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:58:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Edwhitesunlight@aol.com Message-ID: <12f.15a6c1.285b4425@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:57:41 EDT Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12f.15a6c1.285b4425_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_12f.15a6c1.285b4425_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/15/01 6:20:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > I do vocal loops,with a jamman,more at Finland at Pori than in Orlando where I live.I have a CD called "7 ten/eleven 99" which is named for the dates that I recorded live as I made up the loop based songs.It was at Peaches before they closed down and now I burn off copies to give to musicians when I think that they might did it. A lot of people don't get it but others absolutely love it.drop me a line or stop by and I would be happy to give you a CD. Edwin --part1_12f.15a6c1.285b4425_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/15/01 6:20:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes:


juno7@cfl.rr.com


I do vocal loops,with a jamman,more at Finland at Pori than in Orlando where
I live.I have a CD called "7 ten/eleven 99" which is named for the dates that
I recorded live as I made up the loop based songs.It was at Peaches before
they closed down and now I burn off copies to give to musicians when I think
that they might did it. A lot of people don't get it but others absolutely
love it.drop me a line or stop by and I would be happy to give you a CD. Edwin
--part1_12f.15a6c1.285b4425_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 07:11:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA31280; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:09:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:09:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:10:21 -0400 Subject: Re: improv voice loops From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200106151020.GAA29457@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3075433821_201885_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3075433821_201885_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Am new to this list, and am wondering what others use voice as their primary sound source for loop composition and performance (real-time sampling)? I've been using my voice a lot for looping. I sing, and also use a VL70 breath-controlled synth and a NX5 synth for all kinds of sounds. But more and more I find my voice is the most alive and interesting instrument, and I tend to use it as the basis for loops -- and use the synths for coloring. An example -- yesterday I was working on a song and wanted a house music kind of beat. So I used my synth drum kit, and it sounded amateurish. Then I experimented with my voice and got something really cool. I sang "A-chica" (the "A" was very low, like a kick drum, the "chica" like a hihat or shaker) over and over, and looped only one. This gave me a very cool quarter note loop. (By the way, I used a kaos pad to also give me my voice an octave down from what I sang). Then I multiplied the loop on my echoplex, sang a bass line on top of that. Sounded very cool, trancy. Then, I played some kick and snare on top. Now I had a cool sounding loop that didn't sound like a bad attempt to loop dance music live -- it sounded pretty unique. That's just one example. I find that in general using the voice gives very organic, cool-sounding loops with a lot of aliveness and emotional warmth. --MS_Mac_OE_3075433821_201885_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: improv voice loops
Am new to this list, and a= m wondering what others use voice as their primary
sound sourc= e for loop composition and performance (real-time sampling)?

I've been using my voice a lot for looping. &n= bsp;I sing, and also use a VL70 breath-controlled synth and a NX5 synth for = all kinds of sounds.  But more and more I find my voice is the most ali= ve and interesting instrument, and I tend to use it as the basis for loops -= - and use the synths for coloring.
An example -- yesterday I was working on a song and wanted a house music ki= nd of beat.  So I used my synth drum kit, and it sounded amateurish. &n= bsp;Then I experimented with my voice and got something really cool.  I= sang "A-chica" (the "A" was very low, like a kick drum,= the "chica" like a hihat or shaker) over and over, and looped onl= y one.  This gave me a very cool quarter note loop.  (By the way, = I used a kaos pad to also give me my voice an octave down from what I sang).=  Then I multiplied the loop on my echoplex, sang a bass line on top of= that.  Sounded very cool, trancy.  Then, I played some kick and s= nare on top.  Now I had a cool sounding loop that didn't sound like a b= ad attempt to loop dance music live -- it sounded pretty unique.  
That's just one example.  I find that in general using the voice gives= very organic, cool-sounding loops with a lot of aliveness and emotional war= mth.


 --MS_Mac_OE_3075433821_201885_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 07:48:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32104; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:43:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:43:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01d801c0f590$537ef9a0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: improv voice loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:42:57 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D5_01C0F598.B436D3A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <1uWO7B.A.f1H.GTfK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01D5_01C0F598.B436D3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: improv voice loopsMainly electric guitar, second place goes to = voice. After that 'found objects' and percussion bits. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Sandberg=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: 15 June 2001 12:10 PM Subject: Re: improv voice loops Am new to this list, and am wondering what others use voice as their = primary sound source for loop composition and performance (real-time sampling)? I've been using my voice a lot for looping. I sing, and also use a VL70 = breath-controlled synth and a NX5 synth for all kinds of sounds. But = more and more I find my voice is the most alive and interesting = instrument, and I tend to use it as the basis for loops -- and use the = synths for coloring.=20 An example -- yesterday I was working on a song and wanted a house music = kind of beat. So I used my synth drum kit, and it sounded amateurish. = Then I experimented with my voice and got something really cool. I sang = "A-chica" (the "A" was very low, like a kick drum, the "chica" like a = hihat or shaker) over and over, and looped only one. This gave me a = very cool quarter note loop. (By the way, I used a kaos pad to also = give me my voice an octave down from what I sang). Then I multiplied = the loop on my echoplex, sang a bass line on top of that. Sounded very = cool, trancy. Then, I played some kick and snare on top. Now I had a = cool sounding loop that didn't sound like a bad attempt to loop dance = music live -- it sounded pretty unique. =20 That's just one example. I find that in general using the voice gives = very organic, cool-sounding loops with a lot of aliveness and emotional = warmth. ------=_NextPart_000_01D5_01C0F598.B436D3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: improv voice loops
Mainly electric guitar, second place goes to=20 voice.  After that 'found objects' and percussion = bits.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Steve Sandberg
Sent: 15 June 2001 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: improv voice loops

Am new to this list, = and am=20 wondering what others use voice as their=20 primary
sound=20 source for loop composition and performance (real-time=20 sampling)?

I've been using my voice = a lot for=20 looping.  I sing, and also use a VL70 breath-controlled synth and a = NX5=20 synth for all kinds of sounds.  But more and more I find my voice = is the=20 most alive and interesting instrument, and I tend to use it as the basis = for=20 loops -- and use the synths for coloring.
An example -- yesterday I = was=20 working on a song and wanted a house music kind of beat.  So I used = my=20 synth drum kit, and it sounded amateurish.  Then I experimented = with my=20 voice and got something really cool.  I sang "A-chica" (the "A" was = very=20 low, like a kick drum, the "chica" like a hihat or shaker) over and = over, and=20 looped only one.  This gave me a very cool quarter note loop. =  (By the=20 way, I used a kaos pad to also give me my voice an octave down from what = I=20 sang).  Then I multiplied the loop on my echoplex, sang a bass line = on top=20 of that.  Sounded very cool, trancy.  Then, I played some kick = and=20 snare on top.  Now I had a cool sounding loop that didn't sound = like a bad=20 attempt to loop dance music live -- it sounded pretty unique. =  
That's=20 just one example.  I find that in general using the voice gives = very=20 organic, cool-sounding loops with a lot of aliveness and emotional=20 warmth.


 ------=_NextPart_000_01D5_01C0F598.B436D3A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 08:14:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01272; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:12:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:12:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1CB@kes.camcare.com> From: "Wegmann, Greg" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: echoplex Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:14:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What price are they going for? What's the number??? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Dylan B DeAnda [mailto:dylan@loudcloud.com] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: echoplex Contact L.A. Music Service, they had 6...now 5, last week when I bought mine. Prices are good. Ask for Michael. They are in LA, CA, not LA, Looosiana. D Thanks and Best Regards, Dylan B. DeAnda dylan@loudcloud.com 408-744-7678 -----Original Message----- From: Taaffe, Denis G [mailto:dtaaffe@indiana.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:12 AM To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' Subject: echoplex Hey where can I buy an echoplex digital pro from besides sweetwater? Denis denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 08:36:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01554; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:35:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:35:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00f201c0f597$8c702340$0c41f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106151020.GAA29456@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: improv voice loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:34:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <5WOABD.A.GY.DDgK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Jehn, Welcome to the list. I don't know if you've been here long enough to have heard about the Festival of Voice + Electronics that I produced in Santa Cruz last month but we had solo acapella vocal performances, (including Loopers Delight vet, Simran Gleason from S.F.), by an opera singer, a classical singer, a death metal singer, a human beatboxer, several different styles of overtone singing (tuvan and tibetan and california new age), an overtone choir (nearly destroyed by my errant vocoder ;-) all being mixed by three Loopers Delight members: Miko B, myself and my brother, Bill Walker (a phenomenal electric guitarist/guitarsynthesist in his own right). Santa Cruz's own incredible, John Whooley, then closed the show with a wonderfully inventive performance of voice, one Dl-4 looper and an expression pedal. The 'singers' had no control over what the processors were doing (a whole lot o' loopin' goin' on) and the processors didn't know what the singers were going to do. It produced some very interesting results. It was a wonderfully creative evening and I want to do it again, at some point Also,I was just rewriting my resume for press releases and I added this little snippet it to my 'instruments' played category: " He plays...............blah, blah, woof, woof (sic)..........and has a fascinating repertoire of unusual and exotic vocal techniques at his command (overtone singing, warble singing, trill singing, gutteral singing, hum-whistling, mouth percussion and effects, beatbox and faux industrial beatbox,yodelling and pygmy bottle blowing/falsetto singing). I do a lot of things besides using voice in my music but I almost always include one piece for human voice only in my solo looping shows. In these shows, I get my audiences to learn how to do very simple overtone singing for the first time and get someone from the audience to conduct them, using them as an ambient real time 'loop' for my own improvisation or I get them to make group shhhhhhhhhhh sssssssssssss and chhhhhhhhhhh sounds at their highest and lowest ranges and I then loop them and use them in a faux industrial piece (inspired, originally, by the Aphex Twin remix of Nine Inch Nails on Further Down the Spiral which was the single piece of music that turned me into an electronica fanatic after having not touched it for almost twenty years----a lot of steam pressure noises and other noise bursts in that piece). What kinds of things are you into? Good luck, yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 09:57:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04049; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:56:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:56:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001801c0f5a3$2519dc20$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <200106151020.GAA29456@hemlock.violacea.com> <00f201c0f597$8c702340$0c41f93f@dnlsh01> Subject: Re: improv voice loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:57:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Please let me know if Santa Cruz will ever be again. I perform solo using only voice along with 2 Digitech Echo Plus pedals and a Jam Man. I overlay tones and then sing lyrically over the results..my range is about 4 octaves so I'll let these high notes ring, and then bring my voice down to it's lowest point for a bassline (for me..it's tenor). I love organic sounds above all else..when creating music I prefer using found sounds in combination with voice. Most of my recordings are voice-only and the closest comparison I would be able to make to the sound of it is like that of a group of theremins. I've had more people say "angels", but I'll stick with the sound I know! I love trance music with minimal percussion, and overtones. Looping appliances and matching pitch with them is also very satisfying as well. Jehn eyelight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 8:34 AM Subject: re: improv voice loops > Hi Jehn, > Welcome to the list. I don't know if you've been here long enough to > have heard about the Festival of Voice + Electronics that I produced in > Santa Cruz last month but we had solo acapella vocal performances, > (including Loopers Delight vet, Simran Gleason from S.F.), by > an opera singer, a classical singer, a death metal singer, a human > beatboxer, several different styles of overtone singing (tuvan and tibetan > and california new age), an overtone choir (nearly destroyed by my errant > vocoder ;-) all being mixed by three Loopers Delight members: Miko B, > myself and my brother, Bill Walker (a phenomenal electric > guitarist/guitarsynthesist in his own right). Santa Cruz's own incredible, > John Whooley, then closed the show with a wonderfully inventive performance > of voice, one Dl-4 looper and an expression pedal. The 'singers' had no > control over what the processors were doing (a whole lot o' loopin' goin' > on) and the processors didn't know what the singers were going to do. It > produced some very interesting results. It was a wonderfully creative > evening and I want to do it again, at some point > > Also,I was just rewriting my resume for press releases and I added this > little snippet it to my 'instruments' played category: > " He plays...............blah, blah, woof, woof (sic)..........and has a > fascinating repertoire of unusual and exotic vocal techniques at his command > (overtone singing, warble singing, trill singing, gutteral singing, > hum-whistling, mouth percussion and effects, beatbox and faux industrial > beatbox,yodelling and pygmy bottle blowing/falsetto singing). > > I do a lot of things besides using voice in my music but I almost always > include one piece for human voice only in my solo looping shows. > In these shows, I get my audiences to learn how to do very simple overtone > singing for the first time and get someone from the audience to conduct > them, using them as an ambient real time 'loop' for my own improvisation or > I get them to make group shhhhhhhhhhh sssssssssssss and chhhhhhhhhhh > sounds at their highest and lowest ranges and > I then loop them and use them in a faux industrial piece (inspired, > originally, by the Aphex Twin remix of Nine Inch Nails on Further Down the > Spiral which was the single piece of music that turned me into an > electronica > fanatic after having not touched it for almost twenty years----a lot of > steam > pressure noises and other noise bursts in that piece). > What kinds of things are you into? > > Good luck, yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 09:58:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03970; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:51:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:51:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2A12DC.8A524E9C@home.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:51:25 -0400 From: JoE Silva Organization: QRM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Home studio References: <200106151020.GAA29455@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1026521958528E800272315E" Resent-Message-ID: <31ydSB.A.y9.9KhK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------1026521958528E800272315E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: Re: home studios? > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700 > From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) > To: "diatom drone" > CC: > >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying > to > >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. > thanks in > >advance! Check out the Electronic Musician (pg 74). In the article about cable routing, they have a good basic layout to consider. Also Sound on Sound www.sospubs.co.uk often has similar. Just do a search and hope what you find isn't for members only. JoE --------------1026521958528E800272315E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: home studios?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: "diatom drone" <skincage@infin8ty.com>
CC: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to
>make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in
>advance!
Check out the Electronic Musician (pg 74). In the article about cable routing, they have a good basic layout to consider. Also Sound on Sound www.sospubs.co.uk often has similar. Just do a search and hope what you find isn't for members only.

JoE --------------1026521958528E800272315E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:11:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05356; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:05:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:05:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:04:37 -0700 Subject: Gig Spam [Seattle, WA]: Electrochakra at Mr. Spot's Chai House 6/16/01 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The loop-enhanced Electrochakra will be performing this Saturday June 16th at Mr. Spot's Chai House (2214 NW. Market Street, Seattle Washington) starting at 8PM Admission is free. Be seeing you, Travis Hartnett Electrochakra -- NEW official Electrochakra website: http://www.electrochakra.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05499; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:11:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:11:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "J. Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: home studios? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:06:33 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F569.B599CA60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <8d.8025a7e.285ada95@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F569.B599CA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sorry, but I see this from a healthily paranoid point of view: The = last thing I need is some thief eyeing my stuff on the Web, putting two = and two together, and deciding to pay me a visit somehow. No, thank = you. This remains private stuff around here. -----Original Message----- From: THusken@aol.com [mailto:THusken@aol.com] Sent: Thursday 14 June 2001 8:27 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: home studios? Hey Dave, great photos and info on your studio. I think it would be = great to=20 see other loopers studios...how 'bout it people? -Todd=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F569.B599CA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm=20 sorry, but I see this from a healthily paranoid point of view:  The = last=20 thing I need is some thief eyeing my stuff on the Web, putting two and = two=20 together, and deciding to pay me a visit somehow.  No, thank = you. =20 This remains private stuff around here.
-----Original Message-----
From: THusken@aol.com=20 [mailto:THusken@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday 14 June 2001 8:27=20 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 home studios?

Hey=20 Dave, great photos and info on your studio.  I think it would be = great to=20
see other loopers studios...how 'bout it people? =   -Todd=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0F569.B599CA60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:18:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05451; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:10:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:10:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4CCF@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Home studio Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:09:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F5A4.DA9344A0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F5A4.DA9344A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" translation: Hey boys and girls , send me pictures of your home studios so I can decide which one of you I need to rob first lol..kidding of course.... denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: JoE Silva [mailto:theqrm@home.com] Subject: Re: home studios? >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in >advance! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F5A4.DA9344A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
translation: Hey boys and girls , send me pictures of your home studios so I can decide which one of you I need to  rob first
 
lol..kidding of course....
 
denis
 
Denis Taaffe
-----Original Message-----
From: JoE Silva [mailto:theqrm@home.com]
   Subject: Re: home studios?
>does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to
>make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in
>advance!
   
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F5A4.DA9344A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:27:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05894; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:25:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:25:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010615102316.0096cee0@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: floyd@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:24:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: RE: private home studios? In-Reply-To: References: <8d.8025a7e.285ada95@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com gnominus@earthling.net wrote: >I'm sorry, but I see this from a healthily paranoid point of view: The last >thing I need is some thief eyeing my stuff on the Web, putting two and two >together, and deciding to pay me a visit somehow. No, thank you. This >remains private stuff around here. Then why put your pictures on the WEB? Private is private, the WEB is not. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:39:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06161; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:37:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:37:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:37:06 EDT Subject: Re: improv voice loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <7R78-B.A.yfB.a2hK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rw said: >The 'singers' had no >control over what the processors were doing (a whole lot o' loopin' goin' >on) and the processors didn't know what the singers were going to do. >It produced some very interesting results. sounds like an awful lotta fun! bloop, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:42:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06344; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:41:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:41:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <37.168fd527.285b7854@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:40:20 EDT Subject: Re: home studios? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com THusken@aol.com writ: >Hey Dave, great photos and info on your studio. I think it would be great >to see other loopers studios...how 'bout it people? (*should be* comprehensive) photos of my small studio ---Cell Labs--- to be seen in the august episode of Electronic Musician magazine..... bleep, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:43:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06361; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:41:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:41:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:42:19 -0500 Subject: re: NYC loopers/gigs From: Paul Sullivan To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1d0vPD.A._iB._5hK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >somebody said: >>>> > There are certainly other NYC area loopers... though not nearly to >>the >>>> > same organized level as on the west coast! >truth! > >>>> > on the list, there's myself, anti:clockwise (who's playing on Saturday >>>> > night >>>> > at the Pink Pony), Steve Sandburg, and a couple of others. >me, for instance. >of the guitarists: >robby aceto. >elliott sharp. >leni stern. >etc etc > >violinists: >todd reynolds. >etc etc > >of the dj's: >way too many to mention..... >best, >dt / s-c >in NYC- >ah also myself, strung things, mainly guitars >my better half Theresa KK Radka, looping voice, keys and Handsonic, et >cetera who btw is my Goddess >Robert J. Norris guitars, mainly classical, just started looping, i'm >holding my breath. Also, SHRUB MONKEYS: Paul Sullivan-guitars & loops David Weeks-saxophones & loops Don Peretz-drums & cymbals performing at the Brooklyn Working Artists Coalition pier show closing party in Redhook, Brooklyn this Saturday night, June 16, from 5 to 8 pm. This is the 9th year of the BWAC pier show, where hundreds of local artists exhibit their work in a huge civil-war era warehouse on the waterfront in Red Hook, Brooklyn. Come early to check out the artwork, the beautiful view from the promenade with a birds-eye view of the Statue of Liberty, and stay for the music, auction, raffles, food and drink, etc. Admission is free. For directions and more info, go to Hope to see some local list members! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:45:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06526; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:43:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:43:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.113.43] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: private home studios? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:42:20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2001 14:42:21.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[621DEB60:01C0F5A9] Resent-Message-ID: <2edj3B.A.6kB.s7hK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ha, ha... this is really funny !



 

----Original Message Follows----
From: Floyd Miller
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: private home studios?
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:24:22 -0400
gnominus@earthling.net wrote:
>I'm sorry, but I see this from a healthily paranoid point of view:
>The last
>thing I need is some thief eyeing my stuff on the Web, putting two
>and two
>together, and deciding to pay me a visit somehow. No, thank you.
>This
>remains private stuff around here.
Then why put your pictures on the WEB? Private is private, the
WEB is not.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:51:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06702; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:49:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:49:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.113.43] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Home studio Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:48:44 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2001 14:48:44.0717 (UTC) FILETIME=[46C895D0:01C0F5AA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ok, I will... ha ha, this is REALLY funny. And if you do have a Home Studio, it's your FRIENDS, you gotta watch out for, and those who you let in casually. I know I am not (if I were a thief), gonna try to track down someone from the web, and find out where they live to break in their crib, just to steal, "what's posted on the web". Pictures, are not truthful indicators of what a person has..... Like those pictures on http://www.rankpeople.com who sez that those pictures are really pix of the people they represent ? It's folks you let in your house, that SEE what you got, those are the one's you betta worry about...

In the words of Stan Lee,

'Nuff Said ! or was it Excelsilor ?



 

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Taaffe, Denis G"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'"
Subject: RE: Home studio
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:09:55 -0500
translation: Hey boys and girls , send me pictures of your home studios so I
can decide which one of you I need to rob first
lol..kidding of course....
denis
Denis Taaffe
denis_aliengtr@geocities.com
http://www.dtguitar.com
-----Original Message-----
From: JoE Silva [mailto:theqrm@home.com]
Subject: Re: home studios?
>does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to
>make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in
>advance!

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:53:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06835; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:51:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:51:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010615104953.007c32e0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:49:53 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: home studios? In-Reply-To: <37.168fd527.285b7854@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:40 AM 6/15/01 EDT, dt wrote: >(*should be* comprehensive) photos of my small studio ---Cell Labs--- to be >seen in the august episode of Electronic Musician magazine..... HEY! You can't call your home studio by that name! That's the name I'VE been using since the invention of the transistor! :-) [List newbies: just kidding; re the LooppooL thread a while back...] Tim (whose home studio is actually monikered 'Shabby Toad'...) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 10:55:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06946; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:53:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:53:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: ENAT21213@aol.com Message-ID: <20.17e771ea.285b7b39@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:52:41 EDT Subject: Re: home studios? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_20.17e771ea.285b7b39_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_20.17e771ea.285b7b39_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/15/01 10:41:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hedewa7@aol.com writes: > > (*should be* comprehensive) photos of my small studio ---Cell Labs--- > hey thats the name of mi band. guess i'll change it. love, ralf --part1_20.17e771ea.285b7b39_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/15/01 10:41:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hedewa7@aol.com
writes:



(*should be* comprehensive) photos of my small studio ---Cell Labs---


hey thats the name of mi band.
guess i'll change it.
love,
ralf --part1_20.17e771ea.285b7b39_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 11:36:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09191; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:34:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:34:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001501c0f5b0$f0562300$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: Subject: Re: improv voice loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:36:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Every once in a while, I'd go into a bar downtown with the Digitech Echo Plus, a mic, a recording walkman and headphones, hand some drunk the mic and pu the phones on his head, and start twiddling knobs. Great icebreaker..wakes people up . Jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: improv voice loops > rw said: > > >The 'singers' had no > >control over what the processors were doing (a whole lot o' loopin' goin' > >on) and the processors didn't know what the singers were going to do. > >It produced some very interesting results. > sounds like an awful lotta fun! > bloop, > dt / s-c > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 11:40:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09413; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:38:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:38:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a401c0f5b0$f9219230$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <001501c0f5b0$f0562300$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: improv voice loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:36:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <9djsNB.A.9SC.pviK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Every once in a while, I'd go into a bar downtown with the Digitech Echo > Plus, a mic, a recording walkman and headphones, hand some drunk the mic and > pu the phones on his head, and start twiddling knobs. Great > icebreaker..wakes people up . I *LIKE* it! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 11:49:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09591; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:44:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:44:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002101c0f5b1$f4412360$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <001501c0f5b0$f0562300$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> <00a401c0f5b0$f9219230$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: Re: improv voice loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:43:35 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com When I was in hospital here, there was a really old, mostly delerious fellow on the other side of the curtain from me who went on, and on, and ON, and on, in completely disjointed sets of sentences like: "You can't have my trousers, they're MINE and I paid for 'em with me own money." "Have ya seen my brother today? Me father was here yesterday lookin' for 'im..." On one level I was glad that I was on the other side of the curtain and didn't connect a face to this poor soul. On another I was sorry I didn't have my old portable recorder with me to get some of this stuff, which reminded me of some of the rambling Lennon did on "Revolution #9"... :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Leas" To: Sent: 15 June 2001 16:36 PM Subject: Re: improv voice loops > > Every once in a while, I'd go into a bar downtown with the Digitech Echo > > Plus, a mic, a recording walkman and headphones, hand some drunk the mic > and > > pu the phones on his head, and start twiddling knobs. Great > > icebreaker..wakes people up . > > I *LIKE* it! > > Dennis Leas > ------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 11:54:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09826; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:52:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:52:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: From: "p koniuto" Subject: Re: improv voice loops Message-Id: <150601166.31934@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:52:20 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Jehn: > ... I perform solo using >only voice along with 2 Digitech Echo Plus pedals and a Jam Man. I overlay >tones and then sing lyrically over the results..my range is about 4 octaves >so I'll let these high notes ring, and then bring my voice down to it's >lowest point for a bassline (for me..it's tenor). >I love organic sounds above all else..when creating music I prefer using >found sounds in combination with voice. Most of my recordings are voice-only >and the closest comparison I would be able to make to the sound of it is >like that of a group of theremins. I've had more people say "angels", but >I'll stick with the sound I know! I love trance music with minimal >percussion, and overtones. Looping appliances and matching pitch with them >is also very satisfying as well. Wow...any available recordings of this? -peter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:09:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11373; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:08:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:08:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2ADB7A.6403D4F8@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:07:22 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: improv voice loops References: <007701c0f521$68b51e40$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the speech therapy idea sounds great, though I know nothing about that field. As per the singer song writer dilemma, I used to show up at open mics with a small version of my loop rig and open it up to psychedelic factor 9. often people loved it. Jehn wrote: > Am new to this list, and am wondering what others use voice as their > primary sound source for loop composition and performance (real-time > sampling)? Also, has anyone explored the topic of speech therapy by > using equipment such as a Jam Man to provide automatic feedback for > self-correction? I wish more loopers performed here in Orlando. I > can't bear to see another singer-songwriter with an acoustic > guitar!! Jehn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:10:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11230; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:04:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:04:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2ADA9C.D23D2C65@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:03:40 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: home studios? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wow. I'm humbled. I'll have to start calling my room "Blinky Room Jr." Mark Dave Trenkel wrote: > >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to > >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in > >advance! > > > >jon > > I have some slightly outdated photos of my studio, the Blinky Room, here: > > http://www.newandimprov.com/blinky.html > > Since taking those (admittedly crummy) photos, I've added some more to the > modular synth, and added a Hammond M3. Basic layout of the space is the > same, though. > > ____________________________________________ > Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org > New & Improv Media > http://www.newandimprov.com > Now available: Minus: Dark Lit > ____________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:13:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11586; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:11:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:11:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2ADC52.1B7296F2@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:10:58 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater Eve References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7ocyr.A.o0C.vOjK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks! the credit card info I gave over the phone is now defunct (a debit card from a bank that's no longer around) so if someone could call me at 925 944-1211 or 510 523-8767, I'll give you the new info. Mark JHKNICKS@aol.com wrote: > Hi Mark-Its Jon from Alto.They should be shipping this month-probably towards > the last week.That's the latest- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:19:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11763; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:17:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:17:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <428526F7D997D411BC310090279380EBEC301E@n22.natureny.com> From: "Fournier, Nicole" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: NYC loopers/gigs Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:23:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Also, > > SHRUB MONKEYS: > > Paul Sullivan-guitars & loops > > David Weeks-saxophones & loops > > Don Peretz-drums & cymbals > > performing at the Brooklyn Working Artists Coalition pier show closing > party > in Redhook, Brooklyn this Saturday night, June 16, from 5 to 8 pm. > > This is the 9th year of the BWAC pier show, where hundreds of local > artists > exhibit their work in a huge civil-war era warehouse on the waterfront in > Red Hook, Brooklyn. Come early to check out the artwork, the beautiful > view > from the promenade with a birds-eye view of the Statue of Liberty, and > stay > for the music, auction, raffles, food and drink, etc. Admission is free. > For > directions and more info, go to Hope to see some local > list members! > ***cool. have some music samples on the web? Any other loopers have some mp3s they've written & care to share? thanx, -nik > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:23:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11920; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:21:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:21:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001001c0f5b7$811c26e0$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <150601166.31934@webbox.com> Subject: Re: improv voice loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:23:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, working with some new things..latest CD consists of stuff I recorded for use with a yoga class..very minimal voice composition..I like the more dense stuff better, but yoga needs that streamlined tone interplay. Jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "p koniuto" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:52 AM Subject: Re: improv voice loops > > > > Hey Jehn: > > > ... I perform solo using > >only voice along with 2 Digitech Echo Plus pedals and a Jam > Man. I overlay > >tones and then sing lyrically over the results..my range is > about 4 octaves > >so I'll let these high notes ring, and then bring my voice down > to it's > >lowest point for a bassline (for me..it's tenor). > >I love organic sounds above all else..when creating music I > prefer using > >found sounds in combination with voice. Most of my recordings > are voice-only > >and the closest comparison I would be able to make to the sound > of it is > >like that of a group of theremins. I've had more people say > "angels", but > >I'll stick with the sound I know! I love trance music with minimal > >percussion, and overtones. Looping appliances and matching pitch > with them > >is also very satisfying as well. > > > Wow...any available recordings of this? > > -peter > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:24:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11961; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:22:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:22:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2ADECC.CF910046@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:21:32 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: improv voice loops References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com try out the looper's page and go to the "tools of the trade" link. It gives a really good idea of all the looping devices out today. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:33:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12233; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:28:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:28:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: From: "p koniuto" Subject: RE: Re: improv voice loops Message-Id: <150601166.34056@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:27:37 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Please let us know when the new stuff is available! Looping appliances and "Therangels" sound right up my ally! Grooves, peter >--- Original Message --- >From: "Jehn" >To: >Date: 6/15/01 12:23:25 PM > >Yes, working with some new things..latest CD consists of stuff I recorded >for use with a yoga class..very minimal voice composition..I like the more >dense stuff better, but yoga needs that streamlined tone interplay. > >Jehn >----- Original Message ----- >From: "p koniuto" >To: >Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: improv voice loops > > >> >> >> >> Hey Jehn: >> >> > ... I perform solo using >> >only voice along with 2 Digitech Echo Plus pedals and a Jam >> Man. I overlay >> >tones and then sing lyrically over the results..my range is >> about 4 octaves >> >so I'll let these high notes ring, and then bring my voice down >> to it's >> >lowest point for a bassline (for me..it's tenor). >> >I love organic sounds above all else..when creating music I >> prefer using >> >found sounds in combination with voice. Most of my recordings >> are voice-only >> >and the closest comparison I would be able to make to the sound >> of it is >> >like that of a group of theremins. I've had more people say >> "angels", but >> >I'll stick with the sound I know! I love trance music with minimal >> >percussion, and overtones. Looping appliances and matching pitch >> with them >> >is also very satisfying as well. >> >> >> Wow...any available recordings of this? >> >> -peter >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:34:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12196; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:26:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:26:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001b01c0f5b8$3719d000$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <3B2ADA9C.D23D2C65@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: home studios? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:28:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've got the most minimalist setup possible so that during a fire, I can basically throw everything into my kid's little red wagon and run! Who could survive without their recorder? Ever have those fantasies where you were stranded somewhere, like a hospital, island or jail, and you were only able to have your recorder, a mic, a pedal of your choice and maybe a casio?? Jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: Re: home studios? > wow. I'm humbled. I'll have to start calling my room "Blinky Room Jr." > > Mark > > Dave Trenkel wrote: > > > >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to > > >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in > > >advance! > > > > > >jon > > > > I have some slightly outdated photos of my studio, the Blinky Room, here: > > > > http://www.newandimprov.com/blinky.html > > > > Since taking those (admittedly crummy) photos, I've added some more to the > > modular synth, and added a Hammond M3. Basic layout of the space is the > > same, though. > > > > ____________________________________________ > > Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org > > New & Improv Media > > http://www.newandimprov.com > > Now available: Minus: Dark Lit > > ____________________________________________ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:36:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12610; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:35:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:35:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.168.29.189] Reply-To: jwinger@ontrack.com From: "James Winger" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: guitar synth - pinout (roland 24 pin) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:34:23 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2001 16:34:23.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[092F65F0:01C0F5B9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com
hello,
 
would anyone have pinouts for the older Roland guitar synth 24 pin format (gr-300, Gr-700, etc)?
 
thanks very much for your time
 
Jim Winger
 

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:49:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12949; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:48:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:48:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:47:35 -0500 Subject: Re: improv voice loops From: Mike Feeney To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , Jehn Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001001c0f5b7$811c26e0$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I would really like to hear some tracks that y'all have recorded involving looping... Being fairly a newcomer to the whole thing I'd like to hear what kinds of sounds you're creating. Not that I want to rip anyone off, I just want to expand my horizons... =) Send some URLs? Private replies would likely be more appropriate than flooding the list... Thanks! Mike feeneymike@yahoo.com on 6/15/01 11.23 AM, Jehn at juno7@cfl.rr.com wrote: > Yes, working with some new things..latest CD consists of stuff I recorded > for use with a yoga class..very minimal voice composition..I like the more > dense stuff better, but yoga needs that streamlined tone interplay. > > Jehn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "p koniuto" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: improv voice loops > > >> >> >> >> Hey Jehn: >> >>> ... I perform solo using >>> only voice along with 2 Digitech Echo Plus pedals and a Jam >> Man. I overlay >>> tones and then sing lyrically over the results..my range is >> about 4 octaves >>> so I'll let these high notes ring, and then bring my voice down >> to it's >>> lowest point for a bassline (for me..it's tenor). >>> I love organic sounds above all else..when creating music I >> prefer using >>> found sounds in combination with voice. Most of my recordings >> are voice-only >>> and the closest comparison I would be able to make to the sound >> of it is >>> like that of a group of theremins. I've had more people say >> "angels", but >>> I'll stick with the sound I know! I love trance music with minimal >>> percussion, and overtones. Looping appliances and matching pitch >> with them >>> is also very satisfying as well. >> >> >> Wow...any available recordings of this? >> >> -peter >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 12:54:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12890; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:45:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:45:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d101c0f5ba$3df989e0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: guitar synth - pinout (roland 24 pin) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:43:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I would check on the digital guitar list. I'm forwarding this there as well. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Winger" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: guitar synth - pinout (roland 24 pin) > hello, > > would anyone have pinouts for the older Roland guitar synth 24 pin format (gr-300, Gr-700, etc)? > > thanks very much for your time > > Jim Winger > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 13:45:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15215; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:43:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:43:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.168.29.6] Reply-To: jwinger@ontrack.com From: "James Winger" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: guitar synth - pinout (roland 24 pin) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:42:27 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2001 17:42:28.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B960860:01C0F5C2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

thanks!

that's mighty cool of you.

Roland doesn't seem to want to help



 

From: "Michael LaMeyer"
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:43:01 -0400
I would check on the digital guitar list. I'm forwarding this
there as well.
Mike
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Subject: guitar synth - pinout (roland 24 pin)
> hello,
>
> would anyone have pinouts for the older Roland guitar synth 24
pin format (gr-300, Gr-700, etc)?
>
> thanks very much for your time
>
> Jim Winger
>
>
>
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 14:16:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17602; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:13:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:13:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2A4FED.A3894850@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:11:57 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, JHKNICKS@aol.com Subject: Re: Repeater Eve References: <3B2ADC52.1B7296F2@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com woops. I thought I was replying to Jon only. Mark wrote: > thanks! the credit card info I gave over the phone is now defunct (a debit card > from a bank that's no longer around) so if someone could call me at 925 944-1211 > or 510 523-8767, I'll give you the new info. > > Mark > > JHKNICKS@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Mark-Its Jon from Alto.They should be shipping this month-probably towards > > the last week.That's the latest- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 16:18:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22336; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:13:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:13:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ae01c0f5d7$aed8ee40$a944f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106151439.KAA06227@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: another voice + electronics festival in the distant future Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:13:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jehn wrote: > Please let me know if Santa Cruz will ever be again. I perform solo using > only voice along with 2 Digitech Echo Plus pedals and a Jam Man. I overlay By all means, Jehn and this goes for any loopers who want to play the Santa Cruz area and feel like they have a strong enough performance to reach an audience. I'm going to be producing several looping festivals in this area over the next few years. Just to let you know, they are all free to the public and , as such, require that the artists need to donate their time as well. We also perform in a festival atmosphere which means, depending on the number of participants, that performance times are very short 10-30 minutes per artist. Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him paint his fence ;-) should send me a mini disc, CD or cassette (sorry, I don't own a DAT machine) of their work to: Loop Consideration 412 Darwin Street Santa Cruz, California 95062-2629 Yours, sincerely, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 16:23:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22676; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:21:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:21:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2A5FBC.E633E515@sigecom.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:19:25 -0400 From: Scott Winzinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Does a dual Mic Clip exsist for looping vocals live Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I was wondering if anybody has seen a mic clip that screws into the boom and branches off to two mic clips that are about a foot apart (to avoid bleed through). I am trying to add this to my acoustic show so I can loop my guitar and then later loop vocal. Is there another way to accomplish this? Won't I need to have two seperate vocal mics to do this? Zing From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 16:25:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22959; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:23:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:23:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d801c0f5d9$05e0c9a0$a944f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106151816.OAA17828@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: improv voice loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:23:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com dt wrote: "sounds like an awful lotta fun! bloop" rw replies: Yeah, it was awesome. The incredible video animator, David Tristram (who did seminal groundbreaking work for SGI graphics) performed an amazing set of live animation incorporating computer graphics and a live visual feed off of the stage. Four, state of the art video animators in Los Angeles (500 miles away), hearing of his impending performance flew up to watch it on that Tuesday night. He said afterwards that, remarking about the music and video, one of the videographers said, "There is nothing this creative being done in L.A. these days, visually or auditorily". It thrilled me to hear that because Santa Cruz is sometimes treated as a backwater by the larger San Francisco and L.A. and it's nice to know that we are keeping up with our big brother and sister ;-) Also, it really warmed my heart when, at the end of the show, all of the artists clustered around the show planning collaborative projects, talking electronic technique. To see the opera singer, Amy Escalere, talking animatedly with the death metal singer, Jeremy Zumaran was really gratifying. I think every vocalist who didn't own one went away with plans to get themselves a looping device............very cool. later, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 16:39:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23247; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:36:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:36:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <011001c0f5da$ddbb7720$a944f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106151816.OAA17828@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: vocal loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:36:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com speaking of vocals, I'm working on a piece right now that involves a little shareware program I just downloaded that converts text to speech. It is called Text Aloud and it has four voices (three men and one woman?) whose voices you can change the pitch and speed of. Fascinated with trying to f*ck up simple programs and see what interesting artifacts that I can get out of them, I typed in a whole bunch of vowel combinations like, "oooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu aaaaaiiiiiii eeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuu oaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoa aaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuu uuandsometimesw etc. It produced the coolest warbling effects. I then chopped the experiments and used them in as my 'lead vocals' in a piece that my wife calls, "party music from mars".........it has this jaunty latin-esque thing to it, primarily because I generated a random marimba line using fractals (another cool randomization program, SoftStep2.0 that writes really wierd midi sequences using different randomization algorythms). It's strange and I'm liking it a lot. I guess this kind of qualifies for this thread. yours, Rick (loop..........ah you get the idea) PS I don't think that I have the URLs for these programs anymore but it should be easy enough to find them by typing their names into any good search engine (I recommend Googol) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 16:51:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23689; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:49:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:49:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.115.119] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: vocal loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:48:26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2001 20:48:26.0520 (UTC) FILETIME=[868A6180:01C0F5DC] Resent-Message-ID: <8t2tvB.A.3xF.5SnK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

The URL for that app is http://www.nextuptech.com/  and of course,  I have purchased this little app, and it is the bomb. I go to lyric.com, (or whatever that site is, that has all the lyrics to current songs, and I cut and paste those lyrics into Text Aloud MP3). Now, for inflections and pauses, I use comma's, and hyphens and stuff, to get the vocals flowing rhymatically, then I throw them in Sound Forge, for editing, and "Effects", and viola, you got Marty The Martian singing "All 4 U", it's cool !

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To:
Subject: re: vocal loops
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:36:32 -0700
speaking of vocals, I'm working on a piece right now that involves a little
shareware program I just downloaded that converts text to speech.
It is called Text Aloud and it has four voices (three men and one woman?)
whose voices you can change the pitch and speed of.
Fascinated with trying to f*ck up simple programs and see what interesting
artifacts that I can get out of them, I typed in a whole bunch of vowel
combinations like, "oooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu aaaaaiiiiiii
eeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuu oaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoa
aaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuu
uuandsometimesw
etc.
It produced the coolest warbling effects. I then chopped the experiments
and used them in as my 'lead vocals' in a piece that my wife calls, "party
music from mars".........it has this jaunty latin-esque thing to it,
primarily because I generated a random marimba line using fractals (another
cool randomization program, SoftStep2.0 that writes really wierd midi
sequences using
different randomization algorythms). It's strange and I'm liking it a lot.
I guess this kind of qualifies for this thread.
yours, Rick (loop..........ah you get the idea)
PS I don't think that I have the URLs for these programs anymore but it
should be easy enough to find them by typing their names into any good
search engine (I recommend Googol)

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 16:51:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23740; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:49:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:49:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:49:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Does a dual Mic Clip exsist for looping vocals live From: Mike Feeney To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , Scott Winzinger , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3B2A5FBC.E633E515@sigecom.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm actually planning on using my boomerang and looping both guitar and vox by using a small mixing board sitting right beside me and using the effects sends to the boomerang, and then my boomerang will run back into a separate channel. When I want vocals to be looped, I reach over and crank up the send on that channel. If I just want to loop guitar, turn the send on the vox channel down (which will be the majority of the time). mike on 6/15/01 2.19 PM, Scott Winzinger at zing@sigecom.net wrote: > I was wondering if anybody has seen a mic clip that screws into the boom > > and branches off to two mic clips that are about a foot apart (to avoid > bleed through). > > I am trying to add this to my acoustic show so I can loop my guitar and > then later loop vocal. Is there another way to accomplish this? Won't I > need to have two seperate vocal mics to do this? > > Zing > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 17:07:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25179; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:04:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:04:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:57:17 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Levin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Does a dual Mic Clip exsist for looping vocals live In-Reply-To: <3B2A5FBC.E633E515@sigecom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Scott Winzinger wrote: > I was wondering if anybody has seen a mic clip that screws into the boom > > and branches off to two mic clips that are about a foot apart (to avoid > bleed through). > > I am trying to add this to my acoustic show so I can loop my guitar and > then later loop vocal. Is there another way to accomplish this? Won't I > need to have two seperate vocal mics to do this? I've never seen a dual adapter with spacing that far apart. If you can't find one, use the standard type that one would use for drum overheads and put a couple of gooseneck adapters on each side to mount the mics on. -Adam ---- T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ http://mp3.com/darkaether/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 17:14:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25429; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:12:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:12:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <013201c0f5df$80ea1330$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <200106151816.OAA17828@hemlock.violacea.com> <011001c0f5da$ddbb7720$a944f93f@dnlsh01> Subject: Re: vocal loops Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:09:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com When human cloning becomes a reality, my vote goes to Rick Walker to be cloned first. :) We could use about a dozen in Indiana alone. Your enthusiasm is inspirational, Rick! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 17:17:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25559; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:14:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:14:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010615151805.00845c40@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:18:05 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: re: improv voice loops In-Reply-To: <00f201c0f597$8c702340$0c41f93f@dnlsh01> References: <200106151020.GAA29456@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <0jxaVB.A.-OG.sqnK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jehn and Rick,... Woohoo! Rick! -Talk about dangling the carrot! I would absolutely LOVE to hear this material! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! *looks extra cute* OK, enough of beg mode, sounds totally incredible. I also sing, and enjoy combining different musical and vocal styles together to see what comes out. I'm also a big fan of getting lots of people involved in a performance. Do you ever work with vocal polyrhythms? I should probably know better, lol! I'm assuming you do. -just curious... Anyway, Have a fantastic weekend, talk with ya soon! -And Jehn, wonderful post, nice to have you on the list! I was planning to reply to yours after I got through today's messages, but this one ended up covering both. anyway, I'd love to hear some of your material as well. your ideas sound intriguing, both in terms of music, and therapy, which I feel, touch on eachother. Anyway, have a wonderful weekend! Smiles, Goddess At 05:34 AM 6/15/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Jehn, > Welcome to the list. I don't know if you've been here long enough to >have heard about the Festival of Voice + Electronics that I produced in >Santa Cruz last month but we had solo acapella vocal performances, >(including Loopers Delight vet, Simran Gleason from S.F.), by >an opera singer, a classical singer, a death metal singer, a human >beatboxer, several different styles of overtone singing (tuvan and tibetan >and california new age), an overtone choir (nearly destroyed by my errant >vocoder ;-) all being mixed by three Loopers Delight members: Miko B, >myself and my brother, Bill Walker (a phenomenal electric >guitarist/guitarsynthesist in his own right). Santa Cruz's own incredible, >John Whooley, then closed the show with a wonderfully inventive performance >of voice, one Dl-4 looper and an expression pedal. The 'singers' had no >control over what the processors were doing (a whole lot o' loopin' goin' >on) and the processors didn't know what the singers were going to do. It >produced some very interesting results. It was a wonderfully creative >evening and I want to do it again, at some point > > Also,I was just rewriting my resume for press releases and I added this >little snippet it to my 'instruments' played category: >" He plays...............blah, blah, woof, woof (sic)..........and has a >fascinating repertoire of unusual and exotic vocal techniques at his command >(overtone singing, warble singing, trill singing, gutteral singing, >hum-whistling, mouth percussion and effects, beatbox and faux industrial >beatbox,yodelling and pygmy bottle blowing/falsetto singing). > > I do a lot of things besides using voice in my music but I almost always >include one piece for human voice only in my solo looping shows. >In these shows, I get my audiences to learn how to do very simple overtone >singing for the first time and get someone from the audience to conduct >them, using them as an ambient real time 'loop' for my own improvisation or >I get them to make group shhhhhhhhhhh sssssssssssss and chhhhhhhhhhh >sounds at their highest and lowest ranges and >I then loop them and use them in a faux industrial piece (inspired, >originally, by the Aphex Twin remix of Nine Inch Nails on Further Down the >Spiral which was the single piece of music that turned me into an >electronica >fanatic after having not touched it for almost twenty years----a lot of >steam >pressure noises and other noise bursts in that piece). > What kinds of things are you into? > >Good luck, yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 17:25:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25785; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:23:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:23:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2A7BEC.50952247@fullcompass.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:19:40 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Does a dual Mic Clip exsist for looping vocals live References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <61DruD.A.mSG.AznK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The largest one I know of is 8 3/4 " wide. We sell them if your interested. - Jim Adam Levin wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Scott Winzinger wrote: > > > I was wondering if anybody has seen a mic clip that screws into the boom > > > > and branches off to two mic clips that are about a foot apart (to avoid > > bleed through). > > > > I am trying to add this to my acoustic show so I can loop my guitar and > > then later loop vocal. Is there another way to accomplish this? Won't I > > need to have two seperate vocal mics to do this? > > I've never seen a dual adapter with spacing that far apart. If you can't > find one, use the standard type that one would use for drum overheads > and put a couple of gooseneck adapters on each side to mount the mics on. > > -Adam > > ---- > T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t > http://www.darkaether.net/ > http://mp3.com/darkaether/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 17:34:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26110; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:32:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:32:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015001c0f5e2$6e6969b0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: Does a dual Mic Clip exsist for looping vocals live Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:30:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > I was wondering if anybody has seen a mic clip that screws into the boom > and branches off to two mic clips that are about a foot apart (to avoid > bleed through). Try looking at a TM-1 by Atlas Sound. TM = Twin Mount. It's a bar shaped thing. You screw the center onto a mic stand and you can screw two mics (or goosenecks and the like) onto each end. The two mics are separated by about 8.75". Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 18:08:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27745; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:07:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:07:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:06:58 -0500 Subject: re: NYC loopers/gigs From: Paul Sullivan To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Also, > > SHRUB MONKEYS: > > Paul Sullivan-guitars & loops > > David Weeks-saxophones & loops > > Don Peretz-drums & cymbals > > performing at the Brooklyn Working Artists Coalition pier show closing > party > in Redhook, Brooklyn this Saturday night, June 16, from 5 to 8 pm. > > This is the 9th year of the BWAC pier show, where hundreds of local > artists > exhibit their work in a huge civil-war era warehouse on the waterfront in > Red Hook, Brooklyn. Come early to check out the artwork, the beautiful > view > from the promenade with a birds-eye view of the Statue of Liberty, and > stay > for the music, auction, raffles, food and drink, etc. Admission is free. > For > directions and more info, go to Hope to see some local > list members! > Nikki wrote: >***cool. have some music samples on the web? Any other loopers have some >mp3s they've written & care to share? Hi, Nikki our website is under construction, and mp3s will follow, hopefully including some from this gig. Thanks for your interest, hope to see you there. Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 18:26:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28109; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:24:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:24:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <10f.13deb8e.285be4f4@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:23:48 EDT Subject: Re: home studios? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ENAT21213@aol.com writes: >hey thats the name of mi band. >guess i'll change it. no, don't bother; i change the name of my studio once-per-month, these days. dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 18:26:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28117; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:25:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:25:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:22:33 EDT Subject: Re: home studios? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com tcn62@ici.net writes: >HEY! You can't call your home studio by that name! That's the name I'VE >been using since the invention of the transistor! :-) aaaaaaaaak! *-) blobbily, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 19:31:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30383; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:29:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:29:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c0f5f3$ad30f9e0$274e0418@elcjn1.sdca.home.com> From: "Shane Schaetz" To: Subject: Can you use DirectX Plugins on a Soundfont? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:34:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2465.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Has anyone used any sort of a realtime effect on a soundfont? Is that possible? I'm playing my soundfont in Cakewalk 9, but I can only use their crappy built in FX for MIDI. Thanks. Shane From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 20:07:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA32121; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:06:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:06:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2AA3B5.925F5494@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:13:24 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another voice + electronics festival in the distant future References: <200106151439.KAA06227@hemlock.violacea.com> <00ae01c0f5d7$aed8ee40$a944f93f@dnlsh01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like > Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him > paint his fence ;-) should send me a mini disc, CD or cassette (sorry, I > don't own a DAT machine) of their work to: > > Loop Consideration > 412 Darwin Street > Santa Cruz, California > 95062-2629 > > Yours, sincerely, Rick hey rick, i have a fantasy of playing up in big sur one of these days...how often do you make use of the henry miller library? and how did you get them to let you do a performance there? i would really dig being able to do a set under the redwoods...i don't get up there more than once a year or so, but i could certainly conceive of arranging a trip around a performance...lemme know! best, lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 15 20:30:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA32476; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:28:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:28:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.115.119] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Can you use DirectX Plugins on a Soundfont? Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:27:42 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2001 00:27:46.0357 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A6A2650:01C0F5FB] Resent-Message-ID: <_1fkPD.A.O7H.hgqK7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Nope, can't be done. Sorry.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Shane Schaetz"
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To:
Subject: Can you use DirectX Plugins on a Soundfont?
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:34:09 -0700
Has anyone used any sort of a realtime effect on a soundfont? Is that
possible?
I'm playing my soundfont in Cakewalk 9, but I can only use their crappy
built in FX for MIDI.
Thanks.
Shane

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 16 07:52:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA20299; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:50:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:50:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001501c0f65a$3f82cc40$03af1597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Subject: Problems with a Boss VF-1 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:48:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F66B.01F76D20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Messaggio in formato MIME composto da più parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F66B.01F76D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. I've got a problem with my VF-1. Dunno if anyone there has one. = I don't know how, since I keep it locked in my rack, in my home studio, = its cpu had a failure, and (that is what a former Roland repairer told = me) it lost all the system exclusives, the basic software. I tried to = download the update of the system exclusives from the RolandUs.com site, = but it has a broken link. Has anyone had the same experience with this = unit? I'm a bit upset, as having the unit repaired from a Roland center = will cost me almost a third of the price of the unit, and I'll have to = wait nearly two months for the job. And if the (ex-Roland) technician = (electronic engineer) I know is right the repairing consists only in = loading the new software in the unit. He checked all the components, and = all works. Infact when I power up the unit the lcd screen lights up, the = signal goes through the unit, even the digital out works, but the screen = shows nothing, and the signal is uneffected. If anyone out there downloaded the software update, please send it to me = via e-mail, or give me a link to download it.Please. This is one of my main machines in my looping studio, and I need to get = it restored.=20 Good bye to all of you.=20 Thanx ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F66B.01F76D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all. I've got a problem with my = VF-1. Dunno if=20 anyone there has one. I don't know how, since I keep it locked in my = rack, in my=20 home studio, its cpu had a failure, and (that is what a former Roland = repairer=20 told me) it lost all the system exclusives, the basic software. I tried = to=20 download the update of the system exclusives from the RolandUs.com site, = but it=20 has a broken link. Has anyone had the same experience with this unit? = I'm a bit=20 upset, as having the unit repaired from a Roland center will cost me = almost a=20 third of the price of the unit, and I'll have to wait nearly two = months for=20 the job. And if the (ex-Roland) technician (electronic engineer) I know = is right=20 the repairing consists only in loading the new software in the unit. He = checked=20 all the components, and all works. Infact when I power up the unit the = lcd=20 screen lights up, the signal goes through the unit, even the digital out = works,=20 but the screen shows nothing, and the signal is uneffected.
If anyone out there downloaded the = software update,=20 please send it to me via e-mail, or give me a link to download=20 it.Please.
This is one of my main machines in my = looping=20 studio, and I need to get it restored.
Good bye to all of you.
Thanx
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0F66B.01F76D20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 16 13:54:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31247; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:52:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:52:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:51:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: want Mo-FX, was Re: Electrix Sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <79H1nC.A.0nH.Sy5K7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 muman@eskimo.com wrote: > Greetings, > I got all my Electrix at Guitar Center: 3 Mo-Fx, 3 Filter Factory, 1 > Warp Factory. I cancelled my order with Musician's Friend. > > The way I did it was I pre-paid for the units, so as they came in, I > got them. > > The guitar center in Lynwood, WA just got a new batch of all of > these units. My guess, is that all of the GC's got a new batch. If > your GC does not have what you want, have them ship it from > another store. You can also ask a knowledgeable salesperson to > look up on their computer to see if they ordered any more. I ordered 3 FilterFactories, 2 WarpFactories, 1 Mo-FX, 1 EQ-Killer & 1 Filter Queen from a GC in New York. The order came in friday: I got 1 Warp, the EQ-Killer & the Filter Queen. The rep said he didn't have the Mo-FX on order, and could try to order from electrix but I'd have to pay full price. He expects my 3 FilterFactories and other Warpfactory to be in another shipment by the end of the month. So, I'm looking for a Mo-FX unit at least. Possibly picking up the Filterfactories and the other Warp as well. Anyone know where they're in stock? thanks, Steve -- onNow: Philip Glass, _Koyaanisqatsi_ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 16 16:21:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04161; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:19:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:19:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2BB097.75F69EE2@sigecom.net> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:16:40 -0400 From: Scott Winzinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Dual mic clip, dual voc EQ. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I thought this would also be cool live for doing vocal parts that are EQ'd differently. You know, to get that all mid range Kravitz sound. Maybe even run pedals through it (distortion, envelope filter, etc) WHAT YOU GUYS THINK? ZING From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 16 17:08:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05894; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:07:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:07:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008b01c0f6a8$53646180$b443f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106161754.NAA31320@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: voice + elctronics festival Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:07:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com lance g wrote: i have a fantasy of playing up in big sur one of these days...how often do you make use of the henry miller library? and how did you get them to let you do a performance there? i would really dig being able to do a set under the redwoods...i don't get up there more than once a year or so, but i could certainly conceive of arranging a trip around a performance...lemme know! Hi Lance, nice to hear your cyber voice! Bobdog, the very creative musician in the CT-One Collective (this is for other L.D.-ers not you, Lance) played the Henry Miller Library with his creative world fusion/electronica project, PseuddoBuddha. I was such a fan of his music that I drove the hour and a half down there to see them (and, lucky me, I got to set in with them for a set). Anyway, I just fell in love with the place and later called the curator, Magnus Toren (who is a great guy and wonderful supporter of 'fringe' arts and music) to propose the First Big Sur Looping Festival. He went for it and we had a good time. It is difficult to get a lot of people to the venue as it is pretty far from the nearest population center, but it is the most beautiful place I've ever played in my life and I love that we are going to bring the Bass Festival there on July 7th). I would be more than happy to personally give Magnus your promo packet (CD, reviews, bios or whatever you have assembled and, knowing your beautiful minimalist graphics sensibility, it looks really good) and would be into adding my name to the performance if it would help the booking. Let me know, yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 16 17:13:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06053; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:12:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:12:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00cf01c0f6a9$0dce3e60$b443f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106161754.NAA31320@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Dennis Leas kind words Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:12:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thank you for your really nice thoughts, Dennis. You made my whole day. I hope Indiana is beautiful today. yours, rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 17 01:52:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23205; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:49:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:49:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003a01c0f6f1$8a606be0$9fb02141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <200106161754.NAA31320@hemlock.violacea.com> <008b01c0f6a8$53646180$b443f93f@dnlsh01> Subject: Re: voice + elctronics festival Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:51:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <7f03VD.A.NqF.bTEL7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com With all this talk of Big Sur, I have to throw this in.. Back in '95, I start communicating with a small group of people who had all been reviewed in Alternative Press at the same time, back when Jim Santo was still reviewing cassettes. With the indepedent nature of all, I suggested, well hey, why don't we put on a show? So one of the reviewees ran with the idea and began WE Fest that went on for 5 years after that as an indie-only exchange that took place in Wilmington, NC with bands coming to perform from all over and abroad. The fest was a week long, with all performers with their own slots at different clubs around Wilmington. They threw independent zines and microbrews into the mix as well.. It became this indie day camp of sorts, and was an incredible experience to play for an audience comprised of people from everywhere. I think that these "collectives" need to happen much more frequently, and that there does need to be an East Coast version of Big Sur as well ( I wish I could afford to fly). One last note..is anyone on this list practicing in music therapy? Thanks for the time on this one. Good night.. Jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: Re: voice + elctronics festival > lance g wrote: > > i have a fantasy of playing up in big sur one of these days...how often do > you > make use of the henry miller library? and how did you get them to let you do > a > performance there? i would really dig being able to do a set under the > redwoods...i don't get up there more than once a year or so, but i could > certainly conceive of arranging a trip around a performance...lemme know! > > > > Hi Lance, nice to hear your cyber voice! Bobdog, the very creative musician > in the CT-One Collective (this is for other L.D.-ers not you, Lance) played > the Henry Miller Library with his creative world fusion/electronica project, > PseuddoBuddha. I was such a fan of his music that I drove the hour and a > half down there to see them (and, lucky me, I got to set in with them for a > set). Anyway, I just fell in love with the place and later called the > curator, Magnus Toren (who is a great guy and wonderful supporter of > 'fringe' arts and music) to propose the First > Big Sur Looping Festival. He went for it and we had a good time. > It is difficult to get a lot of people to the venue as it is pretty far from > the nearest population center, but it is the most beautiful place I've ever > played > in my life and I love that we are going to bring the Bass Festival there > on July 7th). > > I would be more than happy to personally give Magnus your promo packet > (CD, reviews, bios or whatever you have assembled and, knowing your > beautiful minimalist graphics sensibility, it looks really good) and would > be into adding my name to the performance if it would help the booking. > > Let me know, yours, Rick > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 17 06:51:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32326; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:49:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:49:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: "Loopers-Delight" , Subject: RE: Can you use DirectX Plugins on a Soundfont? Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:46:03 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0F75D.C2FC2EA0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0F75D.C2FC2EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit actually, the head software engineer in a company i used to work for had a mantra that went something like "it's software; anything is possible". just a thought omjn -----Original Message----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 June 2001 12:28 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Can you use DirectX Plugins on a Soundfont? Nope, can't be done. Sorry. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Shane Schaetz" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Subject: Can you use DirectX Plugins on a Soundfont? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:34:09 -0700 Has anyone used any sort of a realtime effect on a soundfont? Is that possible? I'm playing my soundfont in Cakewalk 9, but I can only use their crappy built in FX for MIDI. Thanks. Shane ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0F75D.C2FC2EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Nope, can't be=20 done. Sorry.

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I'm playing my soundfont in Cakewalk 9, but I can only use = their=20 crappy=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0F75D.C2FC2EA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 17 10:15:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06856; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:13:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:13:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009801c0f66e$6990b2e0$863c5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: Subject: Re: Behringer Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:12:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Stephen, A few months ago, I bought an MX2624A mixer. I used it at Okefenokee where I ran five people's rigs through it; Marcel Engels (Free System Projekt), Dave Brewer, John Christian & Pete Ruczynski (2/3 of AirSculpture), and me. See my web site for links to pictures that show this event (and the mixer appears in a few!). The only thing that I don't like about this mixer is its lack of balanced outputs on XLR connectors. Recordings made from this mixer are being used to make a CD, planned for release later this year if all goes well. Have fun and best of luck at Jodrell Band. Please say hi to Frank, Klaus, Dave, and all my other friends there. I will be at NEARfest in the USA listening to ten prog bands in two days. Wish I could clone myself and be in both places at once! BTW, you sent your post from an address that is different from the one I have on file for you. Should I update my address book? Beste Gruesse, Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com -----Original Message----- From: wavecomputer360@gmx.de To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:24 AM Subject: Re: Behringer Hi all, I´ve been working for Behringer as a translator for a while and won´t give away too many secrets of their manufacture or whatever. I am using some of their products, most notably the MX2642A mixer as this is by far the most flexible 19" mixer on the market, and if your music is heavily based on looping and processing there is nothing to beat this unit routing and sound-wise for stage and live applications or where space is an issue. Stephen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 17 10:18:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06975; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:16:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:16:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Headybeats@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:16:24 EDT Subject: Re: Behringer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 106 Resent-Message-ID: <3ok5iC.A.qsB.9uLL7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Unsubscribe me!!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 17 11:24:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08876; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:22:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:22:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <03c901c0f677$d654d9c0$863c5cd1@-> To: From: "Bill Fox" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #221 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:19:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #221 June 14, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Pyramid Peak, a German trio influenced by Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre and Klaus Schulze. The feature CD at midnight was "Atmosphere" on the Invisible Shadows label. This playlist was reported to BMI by WDIY. Pyramid Peak http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#jun PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm van Zyl, Gulch, & Rath Shifting Sands The Sound Museum (Groove) Rajna Kahar Ishati (Projekt) Steve Roach Reflections in Suspension Structures from Silence (Projekt) Syntetika Rannee utro. Promo disc made for EMUSIC (none) Numina An Imposing Presence Evolving Visions (none) 12:00 am Pyramid Peak Dreamscape Part 1 Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Dreamscape Part 2 Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Blossom Dust Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Quasar Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Sequence of Tenses Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Atmosphere Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Encounter Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Fisherman's Hope Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Wonderworld Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on the German trio Pyramid Peak. The feature CD at midnight will be "Ocean Drive" on Torsten Kuhn's Invisible Shadows label. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 17 12:21:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11109; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:19:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:19:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2D8127.48CEC4DC@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:18:47 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers Subject: Re: improv voice loops References: <001501c0f5b0$f0562300$a7882141@cfl.rr.com> <00a401c0f5b0$f9219230$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> <002101c0f5b1$f4412360$0201a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com many moons ago I worked as a manager of a sock store in Ithaca NY (selling socks to such illustrious loopers as the Acetos) and there was an ecentric man known as "The Colonel" who would frequent local stores. He often wasn't very cohearent and would prank phone call local businesses. He once called the store and said, "Hey! I may be coming over later, so you'd better shave her!" my girlfrend really didn't go for it, but he didn't seem to mind. Mark "Stephen P. Goodman" wrote: > When I was in hospital here, there was a really old, mostly delerious fellow > on the other side of the curtain from me who went on, and on, and ON, and > on, in completely disjointed sets of sentences like: > > "You can't have my trousers, they're MINE and I paid for 'em with me own > money." > "Have ya seen my brother today? Me father was here yesterday lookin' for > 'im..." > > On one level I was glad that I was on the other side of the curtain and > didn't connect a face to this poor soul. On another I was sorry I didn't > have my old portable recorder with me to get some of this stuff, which > reminded me of some of the rambling Lennon did on "Revolution #9"... :) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Leas" > To: > Sent: 15 June 2001 16:36 PM > Subject: Re: improv voice loops > > > > Every once in a while, I'd go into a bar downtown with the Digitech Echo > > > Plus, a mic, a recording walkman and headphones, hand some drunk the mic > > and > > > pu the phones on his head, and start twiddling knobs. Great > > > icebreaker..wakes people up . > > > > I *LIKE* it! > > > > Dennis Leas > > ------------------- > > dennis@mdbs.com > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 10:35:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23131; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:33:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:33:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010618102907.00a31280@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:34:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 In-Reply-To: <200106151020.GAA29454@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1621447==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_1621447==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed for way too much info on the tension headache studio finger http://tensionheadache.org/tensionheadachestudio.htm Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like > Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him > paint his fence ;-) actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way the slacker, t.s. the huckster... a:c >Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700 >From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) >To: "diatom drone" >Cc: >Subject: Re: home studios? >Message-Id: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to > >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in > >advance! > > > >jon ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_1621447==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
for way too much info on the tension headache studio finger

http://tensionheadache.org/tensionheadachestudio.htm



Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote:
> ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like
> Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him
> paint his fence ;-)

actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way the slacker, t.s. the huckster...

a:c
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: "diatom drone" <skincage@infin8ty.com>
Cc: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: Re: home studios?
Message-Id: <v01510102b74ed73e6cd1@[216.36.14.21]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to
>make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in
>advance!
>
>jon

++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--=====================_1621447==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 10:43:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23469; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:41:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:41:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004001c0f804$abca66a0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <000901c0f5f3$ad30f9e0$274e0418@elcjn1.sdca.home.com> Subject: Re: Can you use DirectX Plugins on a Soundfont? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:40:46 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I would suggesting checking with Creative if it's the card you're using - I assume so because of your terming it a Soundfont. You might try news://creative.products.sound_blaster.live amongst other places. I understand however that the Soundfont is encapsulated enough to possibly prevent its use by all but certain software packages - but again Creative could help with that one. Or mayhaps the DirectX / MSDN people. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Schaetz" To: Sent: 16 June 2001 00:34 AM Subject: Can you use DirectX Plugins on a Soundfont? > Has anyone used any sort of a realtime effect on a soundfont? Is that > possible? > > I'm playing my soundfont in Cakewalk 9, but I can only use their crappy > built in FX for MIDI. > > Thanks. > > Shane > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 11:20:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25291; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:17:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:17:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2E1B08.4B2B0530@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:15:20 -0400 From: "Ronald S. Smith" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010618102907.00a31280@mail.pdfsystems.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D8F7ADC5F7FD0BBFDDF84867" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------D8F7ADC5F7FD0BBFDDF84867 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody: I am new to looping. I am a bass player and am following after Victor Wooten's example in using loops during live performances and layering bass grooves and riffs for a total musical performance out of a bass guitar. I am considering purchasing either the Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro and have been researching these two units with resources I found yesterday on Loopers-Delight.com. It seems that the Gibson Echoplex is the way to go, since it seems to be generally recognized as a superior looper and it is still in production, whereas the Lexicon Jamman has been out of production for some years now. I am sure both units are excellent, but it is a difficult choice to make not having had any hands-on experience with either of the units. If anybody has any comments or advices on choosing between the Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro, please let me hear from you. Also, if anybody has any great looping tracks they have created that would be great for a bass player to do a free form jam to like Victor Wooten does, please let me hear from you. I have a Roland R-70 Human Rhythm Composer/drum machine with which I have created a couple of suitable tracks to jam to, but I don't want to take the time to become a creative genius with a drum machine (I want to concentrate on sharpening my improvisational skills on the bass guitar.) I look forward to hearing from some of my fellow loopers out there. Perhaps I will also be able to pass along a tip or two to some fellow guitar/bass loopers. Yours truly, Ron Smith, Louisville, Kentucky. anti:clockwise wrote: > > for way too much info on the tension headache studio finger > > http://tensionheadache.org/tensionheadachestudio.htm > > > > Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > > ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel > like > > Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him > > paint his fence ;-) > > actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way > the slacker, t.s. the huckster... > > a:c > >> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700 >> From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) >> To: "diatom drone" >> Cc: >> Subject: Re: home studios? >> Message-Id: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am >> trying to >> >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. >> thanks in >> >advance! >> > >> >jon > > ++++++++ > just what the world needs.... > another frikkin url > --------------D8F7ADC5F7FD0BBFDDF84867 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody:
       I am new to looping.  I am a bass player and am following after Victor Wooten's example in using loops during live performances and layering bass grooves and riffs for a total musical performance out of a bass guitar.  I am considering purchasing either the Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro and have been researching these two units with resources I found yesterday on Loopers-Delight.com.  It seems that the Gibson Echoplex is the way to go, since it seems to be generally recognized as a superior looper and it is still in production, whereas the Lexicon Jamman has been out of production for some years now.  I am sure both units are excellent, but it is a difficult choice to make not having had any hands-on experience with either of the units.  If anybody has any comments or advices on choosing between the Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro, please let me hear from you.  Also, if anybody has any great looping tracks they have created that would be great for a bass player to do a free form jam to like Victor Wooten does, please let me hear from you.  I have a Roland R-70 Human Rhythm Composer/drum machine with which I have created a couple of suitable tracks to jam to, but I don't want to take the time to become a creative genius with a drum machine (I want to concentrate on sharpening my improvisational skills on the bass guitar.)  I look forward to hearing from some of my fellow loopers out there.  Perhaps I will also be able to pass along a tip or two to some fellow guitar/bass loopers.  Yours truly, Ron Smith, Louisville, Kentucky.

anti:clockwise wrote:

 
for way too much info on the tension headache studio finger

http://tensionheadache.org/tensionheadachestudio.htm
 
 

Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote:
> ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like
> Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him
> paint his fence ;-)

actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way the slacker, t.s. the huckster...

a:c

Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: "diatom drone" <skincage@infin8ty.com>
Cc: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: Re: home studios?
Message-Id: <v01510102b74ed73e6cd1@[216.36.14.21]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to
>make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in
>advance!
>
>jon

++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--------------D8F7ADC5F7FD0BBFDDF84867-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 11:33:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26000; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:31:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:31:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a901c0f80b$796bcad0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010618102907.00a31280@mail.pdfsystems.com> <3B2E1B08.4B2B0530@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:29:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C0F7E1.906DEF80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <-2Qro.A.mVG.B7hL7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C0F7E1.906DEF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ron! Welcome to the list! > If anybody has any comments or advices on choosing between the=20 > Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro,=20 > please let me hear from you. I'm a EDP fanatic so I could go on and on about the EDP features vs. = Jamman features, but instead I'll take another approach and avoid = religious discussions. Get an EDP because you can probably order one with a 30-day return = policy. If you get a Jamman, you'll probably have to buy it from an = individual who is unlikely to offer a return policy. So if you don't = like the EDP, you can return it. If you don't like the Jamman, you'd = have to re-sell it to recoup your bucks. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C0F7E1.906DEF80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ron!
 
Welcome to the list!
 
> If anybody has any comments or advices on choosing between the =
> Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro, =
> please let me hear from you.
 
I'm a EDP fanatic so I could go on and = on about the=20 EDP features vs. Jamman features, but instead I'll take another approach = and=20 avoid religious discussions.
 
Get an EDP because you can probably = order one with=20 a 30-day return policy.  If you get a Jamman, you'll probably have = to buy=20 it from an individual who is unlikely to offer a return policy.  So = if you=20 don't like the EDP, you can return it.  If you don't like the = Jamman, you'd=20 have to re-sell it to recoup your bucks.
 
Dennis Leas
-------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C0F7E1.906DEF80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 11:51:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26585; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:49:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:49:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2E22AF.6A8F22@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:47:59 -0400 From: "Ronald S. Smith" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Home Studios for a very small space References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010618102907.00a31280@mail.pdfsystems.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------9CD3AA25E78A2CB603980D83" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------9CD3AA25E78A2CB603980D83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear improv@peak.org: I don't have a picture to send, but I have created what I think is a way to solve space problems and gadget hookup problems for a practicing musician. Upon a simple black Manhasset music stand, I have attached a Roland R-70 Human Rhythym Composer/drum machine, Zoom BFX-708 bass effects signal processor, Bross 3 channel stereo headphone mixer, Sony miniature minidisc recorder/player, Sabine electronic guitar tuner, CD player, Sabine Backtrack riff sampler, lamp (to illuminate everything), and a 6 outlet power strip. All of these items are attached with Velcro strips and fit on a single music stand! I have purchased a Tascam 564 Digital Multitrack recorder which I am also going to attach to the set up described above. This will be done by taking the music shelf from another Manhasset music stand, attaching strips of strap metal at appropriate points, and then bolting the assembly on the music stand support rod of the existing unit beneath the shelf that contains all the stuff I've named above. This compact assembly will give me tremendous flexibility in my practicing and recording jam tracks to minidisk and then layering additional bass guitar parts. Hooking all this stuff up each time I want to practice simply is too time consuming and wearisome. I can pick up the whole thing and carry it to wherever I want, including the site of a performance. This type of setup may not be at all what you need for your purposes, but at least it points out that you have got to be creative in getting all your musical and recording gadgets into a compact space that is very convenient. I would welcome your or anybody's comments on other types of setups that can take the drudgery out of setting up equipment for practicing and recording. Yours truly, Ron Smith, Louisville, Kentucky. >> From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) >> To: "diatom drone" >> Cc: >> Subject: Re: home studios? >> Message-Id: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am >> trying to >> >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. >> thanks in >> >advance! >> > >> >jon > > ++++++++ > just what the world needs.... > another frikkin url > --------------9CD3AA25E78A2CB603980D83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear improv@peak.org:

       I don't have a picture to send, but I have created what I think is a way to solve space problems and gadget hookup problems for a practicing musician.  Upon a simple black Manhasset music stand, I have attached a Roland R-70 Human Rhythym Composer/drum machine, Zoom BFX-708 bass effects signal processor, Bross 3 channel stereo headphone mixer, Sony miniature minidisc recorder/player, Sabine electronic guitar tuner, CD player, Sabine Backtrack riff sampler, lamp (to illuminate everything), and a 6 outlet power strip.  All of these items are attached with Velcro strips and fit on a single music stand!  I have purchased a Tascam 564 Digital Multitrack recorder which I am also going to attach to the set up described above.  This will be done by taking the music shelf from another Manhasset music stand, attaching strips of strap metal at appropriate points, and then bolting the assembly on the music stand support rod of the existing unit beneath the shelf that contains all the stuff I've named above.  This compact assembly will give me tremendous flexibility in my practicing and recording jam tracks to minidisk and then layering additional bass guitar parts.  Hooking all this stuff up each time I want to practice simply is too time consuming and wearisome.  I can pick up the whole thing and carry it to wherever I want, including the site of a performance.  This type of setup may not be at all what you need for your purposes, but at least it points out that you have got to be creative in getting all your musical and recording gadgets into a compact space that is very convenient.  I would welcome your or anybody's comments on other types of setups that can take the drudgery out of setting up equipment for practicing and recording.  Yours truly, Ron Smith, Louisville, Kentucky.
 
 
 

From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: "diatom drone" <skincage@infin8ty.com>
Cc: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: Re: home studios?
Message-Id: <v01510102b74ed73e6cd1@[216.36.14.21]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to
>make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in
>advance!
>
>jon

++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--------------9CD3AA25E78A2CB603980D83-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 12:42:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29019; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:40:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:40:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:39:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F815.32057416" Resent-Message-ID: <7CzIcC.A.tEH.e7iL7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F815.32057416 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yeah Ron, get an Echoplex; you know it makes sense. >From a totally un-biased observer ;-)) -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Leas [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com] Sent: 18 June 2001 16:30 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 Hi Ron! Welcome to the list! > If anybody has any comments or advices on choosing between the > Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro, > please let me hear from you. I'm a EDP fanatic so I could go on and on about the EDP features vs. Jamman features, but instead I'll take another approach and avoid religious discussions. Get an EDP because you can probably order one with a 30-day return policy. If you get a Jamman, you'll probably have to buy it from an individual who is unlikely to offer a return policy. So if you don't like the EDP, you can return it. If you don't like the Jamman, you'd have to re-sell it to recoup your bucks. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F815.32057416 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Yeah Ron, get an Echoplex; you know it makes sense.
From a totally un-biased observer ;-))
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Leas [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com]
Sent: 18 June 2001 16:30
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301

Hi Ron!
 
Welcome to the list!
 
> If anybody has any comments or advices on choosing between the
> Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro,
> please let me hear from you.
 
I'm a EDP fanatic so I could go on and on about the EDP features vs. Jamman features, but instead I'll take another approach and avoid religious discussions.
 
Get an EDP because you can probably order one with a 30-day return policy.  If you get a Jamman, you'll probably have to buy it from an individual who is unlikely to offer a return policy.  So if you don't like the EDP, you can return it.  If you don't like the Jamman, you'd have to re-sell it to recoup your bucks.
 
Dennis Leas
-------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F815.32057416-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 12:51:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29327; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:49:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:49:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003401c0f816$d02db800$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010618102907.00a31280@mail.pdfsystems.com> Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:50:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0F7F5.48B762C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0F7F5.48B762C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you..I was feeling intimidated by all of these squeeky clean = perfectly routed studios. My life is a tangle of 1/4" cords, and still = need to fix the 4trk to retrieve hundreds of hours of lo-fi crap that I = swore I was going to throw away after I went digital. NEVER! Jehn ----- Original Message -----=20 From: anti:clockwise=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 for way too much info on the tension headache studio finger http://tensionheadache.org/tensionheadachestudio.htm Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel = like=20 > Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him=20 > paint his fence ;-)=20 actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way = the slacker, t.s. the huckster... a:c Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: "diatom drone" Cc: Subject: Re: home studios? Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am = trying to >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. = thanks in >advance! > >jon ++++++++ just what the world needs....=20 another frikkin url ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0F7F5.48B762C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you..I was feeling intimidated by = all of=20 these squeeky clean perfectly routed studios. My life is a tangle of = 1/4" cords,=20 and still need to fix the 4trk to retrieve hundreds of hours of lo-fi = crap that=20 I swore I was going to throw away after I went digital. = NEVER!
 
Jehn
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 anti:clockwise =
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 = 10:34=20 AM
Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d = Digest V01=20 #301


for way too much info on the tension headache = studio=20 finger

http://tensionheadache.org/tensionheadachestudio.htm



Rick=20 Walker (loop.pool)" wrote:
> ...Anyone interested in being = considered=20 for participation (I feel like
> Huckleberry Finn trying to get = people=20 to pay him to let him
> paint his fence ;-)

actually, = that was=20 tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way the slacker, t.s. = the=20 huckster...

a:c
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 = 14:06:34=20 -0700
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
To: "diatom drone"=20 <skincage@infin8ty.com>
Cc:=20 <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: Re: home=20 studios?
Message-Id:=20 <v01510102b74ed73e6cd1@[216.36.14.21]>
Content-Type: = text/plain;=20 charset=3D"us-ascii"

>does anybody have pictures of their = home=20 recording setup? i am trying to
>make the most of a really = small space=20 and i could use some ideas. thanks=20 in
>advance!
>
>jon

------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0F7F5.48B762C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 12:53:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29463; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:51:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:51:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <017301c0f817$2861acc0$cc29f7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" Subject: Events in LA Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:53:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, I'm in LA for a week from next Saturday, before heading up to Santa Cruz and the Bay Area for the gigs with the truly wonderful Mr Rick Walker and Michael Manring. Anyway, my gig contact in LA hasn't really come up with much (to be fair, it was very late notice) so I'll have a fair bit of free time, which I'm open to suggestions on how to spend... I'll be available for some private teaching, if anyone's interested, and if there are any jams or gig slots going let me know! Anyone playing at the Knitting Factory? Stig, you got any gigs? I'd love to see you play? so what's da scoop on LA/Orange County? cheers Steve web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" - Bruce Cockburn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 13:00:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29657; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:58:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:58:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB34E@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Events in LA Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:56:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F817.907D2230" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F817.907D2230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" when are you going to be here? stig Hi all, I'm in LA for a week from next Saturday, before heading up to Santa Cruz and the Bay Area for the gigs with the truly wonderful Mr Rick Walker and Michael Manring. Anyway, my gig contact in LA hasn't really come up with much (to be fair, it was very late notice) so I'll have a fair bit of free time, which I'm open to suggestions on how to spend... I'll be available for some private teaching, if anyone's interested, and if there are any jams or gig slots going let me know! Anyone playing at the Knitting Factory? Stig, you got any gigs? I'd love to see you play? so what's da scoop on LA/Orange County? cheers Steve ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F817.907D2230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Events in LA

when are you going to be here?

stig


Hi all,

I'm in LA for a week from next Saturday, before = heading up to Santa Cruz and the Bay Area for the gigs with the = truly
wonderful Mr Rick Walker and Michael Manring.

Anyway, my gig contact in LA hasn't really come up = with much (to be fair, it was very late notice) so I'll have a fair bit = of

free time, which I'm open to suggestions on how to = spend... I'll be available for some private teaching, if = anyone's
interested, and if there are any jams or gig slots = going let me know! Anyone playing at the Knitting Factory? Stig, you = got

any gigs? I'd love to see you play?

so what's da scoop on LA/Orange County?

cheers

Steve

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F817.907D2230-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 13:33:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31497; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:31:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:31:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2E5604.E4FC9B4A@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:27:00 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Events in LA References: <017301c0f817$2861acc0$cc29f7c2@zetnet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Steve Why dont you show up at Musician Institute in Hollywood and see if theres some possibility to play there, (concerts almost every evening) or do a clinic, some loop evangelism, or any networking for the next time say hello from Claude.........(same as Joe sent me...) :=) Have a nice stay Claude WWW.MI.edu Steve Lawson wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm in LA for a week from next Saturday, before heading up to Santa Cruz and the Bay Area for the gigs with the truly > wonderful Mr Rick Walker and Michael Manring. > > Anyway, my gig contact in LA hasn't really come up with much (to be fair, it was very late notice) so I'll have a fair bit of > free time, which I'm open to suggestions on how to spend... I'll be available for some private teaching, if anyone's > interested, and if there are any jams or gig slots going let me know! Anyone playing at the Knitting Factory? Stig, you got > any gigs? I'd love to see you play? > > so what's da scoop on LA/Orange County? > > cheers > > Steve > web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk > e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk > mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) > > "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, > You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" > - Bruce Cockburn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 14:13:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01179; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:10:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:10:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: steve@steve-lawson.co.uk Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:14:46 -0700 Subject: Re: Events in LA Message-ID: <20010618.111447.246.6.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-58 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com how about organizing a house concert? i've got a space in burbank that could hold maybe 20-25 people or so. no seats or anything, just a room. but i'd offer it and any gear i have that can be used for free. tony On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:27:00 +0000 Claude Voit writes: > Steve > > Why dont you show up at Musician Institute in Hollywood and see if > theres some possibility to play there, (concerts almost every > evening) > or do a clinic, some loop evangelism, or any networking for the next > time > say hello from Claude.........(same as Joe sent me...) :=) > > Have a nice stay > > Claude > > WWW.MI.edu > > > > > > > > Steve Lawson wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm in LA for a week from next Saturday, before heading up to > Santa Cruz and the Bay Area for the gigs with the truly > > wonderful Mr Rick Walker and Michael Manring. > > > > Anyway, my gig contact in LA hasn't really come up with much (to > be fair, it was very late notice) so I'll have a fair bit of > > free time, which I'm open to suggestions on how to spend... I'll > be available for some private teaching, if anyone's > > interested, and if there are any jams or gig slots going let me > know! Anyone playing at the Knitting Factory? Stig, you got > > any gigs? I'd love to see you play? > > > > so what's da scoop on LA/Orange County? > > > > cheers > > > > Steve > > web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk > > e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk > > mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank > e-mail to this address) > > > > "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, > > You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" > > - Bruce Cockburn > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 14:19:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01450; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:18:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:18:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2E46BB.D9AAA7D5@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:21:56 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: voice + elctronics festival References: <200106161754.NAA31320@hemlock.violacea.com> <008b01c0f6a8$53646180$b443f93f@dnlsh01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > ...Anyway, I just fell in love with the place and later called the > curator, Magnus Toren (who is a great guy and wonderful supporter of > 'fringe' arts and music) to propose the First > Big Sur Looping Festival. He went for it and we had a good time. > It is difficult to get a lot of people to the venue as it is pretty far from > the nearest population center, but it is the most beautiful place I've ever > played > in my life and I love that we are going to bring the Bass Festival there > on July 7th). > > I would be more than happy to personally give Magnus your promo packet > (CD, reviews, bios or whatever you have assembled and, knowing your > beautiful minimalist graphics sensibility, it looks really good) and would > be into adding my name to the performance if it would help the booking. > > Let me know, yours, Rick rick, thanks for the offer...now i have to put something together! seriously, i think it'd be great fun (and an honor) to play on the same bill as you...i'm sure your name would add about 1000% to the booking :-) anyway, let's keep thoughts rolling on it. i'll be in touch. best, lance g. ps i'd love to check out the bass festival, but that week i should be about 10k feet up in the high sierra, tiptoing around bear scat... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 15:13:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA03648; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:11:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:11:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.36] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: Dual mic clip, dual voc EQ. Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:09:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2001 19:09:41.0985 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A7B5510:01C0F82A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ZING, Ya could try a crytal element harmonic mic. I have one I use on a T bar with a vocal mic also. Works well for feeding the loop. Effects don't always work well on these high mid mics. Distortion gets grungy fast. Chorus/pitch effects work for a full sound. I think an envelope filter with a narrow tuning would work, but much more and feedback gets wild. Just do it.:-> Capt. Molecule -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Winzinger To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Dual mic clip, dual voc EQ. Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:16:40 -0400 I thought this would also be cool live for doing vocal parts that are EQ'd differently. You know, to get that all mid range Kravitz sound. Maybe even run pedals through it (distortion, envelope filter, etc) WHAT YOU GUYS THINK? ZING _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 15:35:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04190; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:30:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:30:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003501c0f82d$193081c0$a944f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106181520.LAA25497@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: OT: F*ck H*ck, Tom's the man Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:30:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like > Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him > paint his fence ;-) actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way the slacker, t.s. the huckster... a:c rick replies: well, it jus goes to show ya', read too many of them dang 'quipment manuels an ya fergets yer learnin' anyway, wasn't Huck the bass player in Nirvana? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 16:01:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04760; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:58:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:58:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB353@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: big sur . . . Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:56:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F830.CE8D9DC0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F830.CE8D9DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" and how did you get them to let you do a performance there? i would really dig being able to do a set under the redwoods...i Anyway, I just fell in love with the place and later called the curator, Magnus Toren (who is a great guy and wonderful supporter of 'fringe' arts and music) to propose the First Big Sur Looping Festival. ** two folks waxing about big sur. having played at the miller library for the 2000 big sur experimental music fest, i can say that it is really great playing beneath the towering trees . . . in the improv we did, i was able to give a little space, look up at the trees, get a little inspiration and then (hopefully) add some good stuff. lance, try to get in on either rick's deal or submit something to the 2002 big sur fest. the pay is basically door, the accomodations are a camp site, but it's a really cool experience. magnus seems to be cool. buy something from the store after you play or listen, their funding is pretty precarious and the library seems to be a labor of love. stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F830.CE8D9DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable big sur . . .

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a performance there? i would really dig being able = to do a set under the
redwoods...i


Anyway, I just fell in love with the place and later = called the
curator, Magnus Toren (who is a great guy and = wonderful supporter of
'fringe' arts and music) to propose the First
Big Sur Looping Festival.



** two folks waxing about big sur. having played at = the miller library for the 2000 big sur experimental music fest, i can = say that it is really great playing beneath the towering trees . . . in = the improv we did, i was able to give a little space, look up at the = trees, get a little inspiration and then (hopefully) add some good = stuff.

lance, try to get in on either rick's deal or submit = something to the 2002 big sur fest. the pay is basically door, the = accomodations are a camp site, but it's a really cool = experience.

magnus seems to be cool. buy something from the store = after you play or listen, their funding is pretty precarious and the = library seems to be a labor of love.

stig



------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F830.CE8D9DC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 16:14:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06146; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:11:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:11:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: Party at Tony's House? I'll bring the Ztar Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:11:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <20010618.111447.246.6.tony-moore@juno.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony Moore how about organizing a house concert? i've got a space in burbank that could hold maybe 20-25 people or so. no seats or anything, just a room. but i'd offer it and any gear i have that can be used for free. tony This post was with regard to a performance by Steve Lawson, but if we could do this for the Manring/Lawson/Walker trio,it would be great--or perhaps as a (long postponed) get together of LA loopers. I would certainly be up for it. Gary Lehmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 16:18:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06417; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:17:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:17:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.112.158.2] From: "Dave Lauzon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: drums and tuba Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:16:03 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2001 20:16:03.0754 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FCD10A0:01C0F833] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just a quick note..... I highly recommend going to see Drums and Tuba if you have the chance. I saw them in Ottawa a couple of weeks ago, and it kicked my ass. The Tuba player was sampling himself and the drummer (no idea what gear he had, some massive rack) and the guitar player was looping with a dl-4. There was soo much goin on, I didn't know where it all was coming from, but it was still tight as hell. anyways....I highly recommend them if you haven't seen them yet. Cheers, Dave _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 16:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07296; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:38:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:38:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010618203816.21360.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:38:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Jam Man for sale... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3B2E5604.E4FC9B4A@vtx.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If anyone´s interested: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1247831799 Thanks. Alx. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 16:41:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07371; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:40:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:40:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:44:45 -0700 Subject: Re: Party at Tony's House? I'll bring the Ztar Message-ID: <20010618.134446.246.11.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,8-11,13-37 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com lol! c'mon over! :-) tho' it's not at my house, but a space i lease for work. it'll eventually be another research lab, but it's pretty empty right now. it's about 500 square feet. it's on the second floor of a building that's entirely vacant in the evenings, so it'd be cool for music. it's also in downtown, burbank, so it's convenient. it's available for anyone who'd like to put on a small show, or just come over and jam. i also have some recording gear there :-) tony On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:11:06 -0700 "Candace Meyer" writes: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Moore > > > how about organizing a house concert? i've got a space in burbank > that > could hold maybe 20-25 people or so. no seats or anything, just a > room. > but i'd offer it and any gear i have that can be used for free. > > tony > > > This post was with regard to a performance by Steve Lawson, but if > we could > do this for the Manring/Lawson/Walker trio,it would be great--or > perhaps as > a (long postponed) get together of LA loopers. I would certainly be > up for > it. > Gary Lehmann > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 17:08:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09202; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:04:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:04:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:04:44 -0700 From: Andrew Pask Subject: Re: Party at Tony's House? I'll bring the Ztar In-reply-to: <20010618.134446.246.11.tony-moore@juno.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <20010618140444-r01010600-1ba7bc0f@66.120.47.138> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <_MLBtD.A.hPC.TzmL7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On 18/6/01 at 13:44, tony-moore@juno.com (Tony Moore) wrote: > lol! c'mon over! :-) > > tho' it's not at my house, but a space i lease for work. it'll eventually > be another research lab, but it's pretty empty right now. it's about 500 > square feet. it's on the second floor of a building that's entirely > vacant in the evenings, so it'd be cool for music. it's also in downtown, > burbank, so it's convenient. it's available for anyone who'd like to put > on a small show, or just come over and jam. i also have some recording > gear there :-) > I'm in. It would be cool to have a hang. L8r A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 17:15:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09448; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:12:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:12:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:16:11 -0700 Subject: Re: Party at Tony's House? I'll bring the Ztar Message-ID: <20010618.141612.246.12.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-8,10-34 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com any night next week except for friday is cool with me. i'm a bachelor for the week :-) anyone interested, feel free to give me a ring, pmail, whatever. tony 818/563-6514 tony-moore@juno.com On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:04:44 -0700 Andrew Pask writes: > On 18/6/01 at 13:44, tony-moore@juno.com (Tony Moore) wrote: > > > lol! c'mon over! :-) > > > > tho' it's not at my house, but a space i lease for work. it'll > eventually > > be another research lab, but it's pretty empty right now. it's > about 500 > > square feet. it's on the second floor of a building that's > entirely > > vacant in the evenings, so it'd be cool for music. it's also in > downtown, > > burbank, so it's convenient. it's available for anyone who'd like > to put > > on a small show, or just come over and jam. i also have some > recording > > gear there :-) > > > I'm in. It would be cool to have a hang. > > L8r > > A > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 19:17:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13909; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:15:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:15:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Echoplex (not the EDP) repair Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:13:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2001 23:13:38.0367 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E71FCF0:01C0F84C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Any West Coast loopers (or better yet, other LA people) know of a good place that repairs Echoplex's? I've got an EP-3 in need of repair, burnt out motor, I reckon. Thanks, p _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 19:44:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14397; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:42:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:42:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.189.148.4] From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Behringer, Slight Return Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:41:43 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2001 23:41:44.0177 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B442E10:01C0F850] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Seeing as how Behringer took some flak for manufacturing gear in China, I was just wondering if anyone has looked at the back of their new Electrix gear. I think you can guess the answer to that one. And just to confuse the issue further, I just read that China has actually managed to lower its emissions of greenhouse gases (by about 17% since 1992 (or therabouts)) while its economy expanded. I believe that the un-elected president of the US withdrew from the Kyoto protocols because he said it would hurt our economy to lower emissions. Maybe he should talk to some of the folks in China. But then again, there is Tibet and.... confused, bemused and slightly amused Kevin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 20:07:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15916; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:06:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:06:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00e401c0f853$90bdb660$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Behringer, Slight Return Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:05:34 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Bullocks. China's insistence upon the use of coal as a MAJOR source of energy guarantees that the 17% figure is a complete lie. Since when has China adhered to a single treaty they've ever signed anyway? Kyoto 'accord' is a smokescreen for diplomatic egg-throwing at the US in more than just a few circles, and not just the reactionary right either. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Sent: 19 June 2001 00:41 AM Subject: OT: Behringer, Slight Return > Seeing as how Behringer took some flak for manufacturing gear in China, I > was just wondering if anyone has looked at the back of their new Electrix > gear. > > I think you can guess the answer to that one. > > And just to confuse the issue further, I just read that China has actually > managed to lower its emissions of greenhouse gases (by about 17% since 1992 > (or therabouts)) while its economy expanded. I believe that the un-elected > president of the US withdrew from the Kyoto protocols because he said it > would hurt our economy to lower emissions. Maybe he should talk to some of > the folks in China. > > But then again, there is Tibet and.... > > confused, bemused and slightly amused > > Kevin > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 20:21:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16142; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:18:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:18:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003301c0f855$d9b06aa0$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: Subject: OT: ASIO routing in Reason? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:21:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C0F81B.2D0FF5C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C0F81B.2D0FF5C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Helllo-=20 I love the ASIO routing I have in B4, Pro52 etc- I was wondering why I = do not have this routing available to me in Reason? I am using P3 with a = MOTU 2408mk2- I love routing B4 or other to 3 and 4 outputs and into my = outboard mixer to be processed etc- looped and more without feeding back = into 1 and 2 inputs- great for live fun with friends and family- Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C0F81B.2D0FF5C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Helllo-
 
I love the ASIO routing I have in B4, = Pro52 etc- I=20 was wondering why I do not have this routing available to me in Reason? = I am=20 using P3 with a MOTU 2408mk2- I love routing B4 or other to 3 and 4 = outputs and=20 into my outboard mixer to be processed etc- looped and more without = feeding back=20 into 1 and 2 inputs- great for live fun with friends and family-=20 Cliff
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C0F81B.2D0FF5C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 20:51:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16796; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:48:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:48:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2EA244.4F85F0D@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:52:31 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: big sur . . . References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB353@migarexch01.maritz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Liebig, Steuart A." wrote: > > > and how did you get them to let you do > a performance there? i would really dig being able to do a set under > the > redwoods...i > > Anyway, I just fell in love with the place and later called the > curator, Magnus Toren (who is a great guy and wonderful supporter of > 'fringe' arts and music) to propose the First > Big Sur Looping Festival. > > > ** two folks waxing about big sur. having played at the miller library > for the 2000 big sur experimental music fest, i can say that it is > really great playing beneath the towering trees . . . in the improv we > did, i was able to give a little space, look up at the trees, get a > little inspiration and then (hopefully) add some good stuff. > > lance, try to get in on either rick's deal or submit something to the > 2002 big sur fest. the pay is basically door, the accomodations are a > camp site, but it's a really cool experience. > > magnus seems to be cool. buy something from the store after you play > or listen, their funding is pretty precarious and the library seems to > be a labor of love. > > stig > thanks stig is there an oranges of heironymous bosch in those dots? my one time experience of the celebrated library was coming in out of the rain with a girlfriend years ago. two folks inside proclaimed upon our entry, "oh, good, the eskimos are here, we can start now!" never quite figured out what they meant by that... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 20:53:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16930; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:50:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:50:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:49:34 -0700 From: Andrew Pask Subject: Re: Behringer, Slight Return In-reply-to: <00e401c0f853$90bdb660$0201a8c0@stephen> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <20010618174936-r01010600-2d7002ea@66.120.47.138> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On 19/6/01 at 1:05, spgoodman@earthlight.net (Stephen P. Goodman) wrote: > Bullocks. China's insistence upon the use of coal as a MAJOR source of > energy guarantees that the 17% figure is a complete lie. Since when has > China adhered to a single treaty they've ever signed anyway? Kyoto 'accord' > is a smokescreen for diplomatic egg-throwing at the US in more than just a > few circles, and not just the reactionary right either. Bullocks are the things which run around fields eating grass and probably still pull carts in china, when called upon they use their BOLLOCKS to make other bullocks (and Ms Bullocks), which is perhaps more the inflection we're aiming for here. Over and Out A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 20:55:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17078; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:53:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:53:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106190050.RAA18227@proxy2.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:59:45 -0700 Subject: OT: Personal Audio Space? From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers Delight Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sorry if this seems too far off topic but I figured someone here might know about hearing aid technology. I will also throw in some loop content. :-) Have you ever been in a loud restaurant and couldn't make out what the person sitting across from you was saying because the background noise was so loud? What I want is a "perception aid". It seems to me that DSP's are good enough that if combined with a couple good microphones you could cancel out the noise and enhance the nearby sound. Fit the electronics and mics into a battery powered, walkperson sized box, plug into it with head phones (the ear plug kind, like what some performers use on stage) and have yourself a "personal audio space". Anyone know if this is possible, or available? For looping or recording, it could be used as a pre-amp (a de-amp?) in noisy places. Always Curious, -Allan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 21:00:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17322; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:57:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:57:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: ASIO routing in Reason? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:53:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0F81F.9EBF0F90" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-reply-to: <003301c0f855$d9b06aa0$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0F81F.9EBF0F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use a Mac with the 828, so not sure if this will help. I was wondering the same thing until I looked carefully in Preferences, Audio. Choose ASIO and look carefully at the options in the dialog box. There should be a dropdown with output options to check multiple channels. -----Original Message----- From: Om_Audio [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 5:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: ASIO routing in Reason? Helllo- I love the ASIO routing I have in B4, Pro52 etc- I was wondering why I do not have this routing available to me in Reason? I am using P3 with a MOTU 2408mk2- I love routing B4 or other to 3 and 4 outputs and into my outboard mixer to be processed etc- looped and more without feeding back into 1 and 2 inputs- great for live fun with friends and family- Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0F81F.9EBF0F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I love the ASIO routing I have in B4, = Pro52 etc-=20 I was wondering why I do not have this routing available to me in = Reason? I am=20 using P3 with a MOTU 2408mk2- I love routing B4 or other to 3 and 4 = outputs=20 and into my outboard mixer to be processed etc- looped and more = without=20 feeding back into 1 and 2 inputs- great for live fun with friends and = family-=20 Cliff
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0F81F.9EBF0F90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 21:22:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18926; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:20:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:20:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2EA893.222B@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:19:16 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Repeater Quad Looping? References: <003301c0f855$d9b06aa0$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Has anyone been studying the Repeater manual?(or would Damon like to comment?) It appears one needs to choose between quadraphonic looping and using the effects loop. Thanks, Kungha From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 21:23:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18971; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:22:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:22:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200106190050.RAA18227@proxy2.ba.best.com> References: <200106190050.RAA18227@proxy2.ba.best.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:21:16 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From: "Allan Hoeltje" >Have you ever been in a loud restaurant and couldn't make out what the >person sitting across from you was saying because the background noise was >so loud? > >What I want is a "perception aid". It seems to me that DSP's are good >enough that if combined with a couple good microphones you could cancel out >the noise and enhance the nearby sound. Fit the electronics and mics into a >battery powered, walkperson sized box, plug into it with head phones (the >ear plug kind, like what some performers use on stage) and have yourself a >"personal audio space". > >Anyone know if this is possible, or available? > >For looping or recording, it could be used as a pre-amp (a de-amp?) in noisy >places. This is a great idea and it's certainly not implausible at first glance. You all know about the sound cancellation earphones (that were invented for the first round-the-world plane flight when they worked out that the pilots would be deaf before the halfway point because of the noise!) But a similar idea is used in professional sound reinforcement in large spaces, where speakers with signals out of phase with the original are placed in order to reduce the effect of reflections and improve intelligibility. The trouble is setting the correct phase and thus delay for each frequency and direction. The pros do it with a complex series of measurements and experiments in the space itself... Now suppose you just had a speaker and a mic and a little microprocessor (uP). the mic faces outward. the speaker faces inward. the uP is logically "in between". blah \ / -blah THEM blah - -> mic -- uP -- speaker - -> - -blah YOU blah / \ -blah then 1. the mic gets a signal and send it to the uP. 2. the uP inverts the signal, (then adds a negative feedback/delay term in order to damp out the feedback through the mic -- this is where the tricky part comes in) 3. and sends it to the speaker, thus cancelling out the noise, at least in the direction of that speaker and YOU! have five of these things and you are set! (you'd want one overhead because a lot of the sound would be coming from ceiling reflections, particularly in a restaurant where the ceiling is usually the only good reflector!) even two might work pretty well. now, with a bigger uP you could do stuff like this: ... have a lot of small mics ... compute the actual 3-d "sonograph" of the sound ... reduce it similarly to holography to a three channel version ... send the inverse to three speakers and "completely" cancel the sound in a small area. the amount of computation involved is large but not inconceivable and the mathematics is "well-known" (to people other than myself, mind you...) is a really nice short though slightly technical summary of this technique. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 21:44:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19429; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:43:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:43:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B2EA893.222B@earthlink.net> References: <003301c0f855$d9b06aa0$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> <3B2EA893.222B@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:42:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Repeater Quad Looping? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id VAA19403 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Kungha wrote >Has anyone been studying the Repeater manual?(or would Damon like to >comment?) It appears one needs to choose between quadraphonic looping >and using the effects loop. Well, the back panel only HAS four outputs... so there's a limit to what you can fit into four. Four is very good, really, at that price point and form factor. page 21 of sez: >For those of you with large format expensive consoles with great EQ >and routing capabilities >Repeater's 25mm faders may not quite be your cup of teaŠ Well, we >thought about you, and >how much we'd like to be you, but in the meantime here's how to set >up Repeater to send >each channel out a unique output. >· First make sure TRACKS 1 & 3 are panned hard left, and TRACKS 2 & >4 hard right. >· Now press FX Insert and de-select tracks 1 & 2. >· You will now find tracks 1 & 2 on the main outputs, and tracks 3 & >4 on the FX Sends. >· Simply set the track levels to 0 and take command from the bridge >of your own console. Well, that's a GREAT feature! (particularly if you are going into a mixer and don't need an effects send)! But you can always play four loops at a time, at least so goes my reading of the manual. And you can set levels and pan (and pitch?) through MIDI so if you have some MIDI control surface, you could even do a pretty decent mix of the four different loops and the effects returns. Reading further: this IS a nice start to a paragraph: >To sync to audio at the FX Insert Return: So these two inputs ALSO have two uses: you can use them for FX return OR for an audio trigger in... *Really* nice feature set. They really get the best they can out of four inputs and four outputs in a little bitty box. (insert "repeater doesn't yet exist" quibble here...) /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 21:55:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19683; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:53:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:53:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001801c0f862$df1ee040$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <200106190050.RAA18227@proxy2.ba.best.com> Subject: Re: Personal Audio Space? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:55:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I very recently have come to terms with tinitus..basically sitting in bed and realizing that I cannot achieve silence. I spend time in both noisy and quiet situations wearing earplugs to increase my tonal awareness. Also, always wear them when you're doing dishes. Plate frequency hurts! Jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: OT: Personal Audio Space? > Sorry if this seems too far off topic but I figured someone here might know > about hearing aid technology. I will also throw in some loop content. :-) > > Have you ever been in a loud restaurant and couldn't make out what the > person sitting across from you was saying because the background noise was > so loud? > > What I want is a "perception aid". It seems to me that DSP's are good > enough that if combined with a couple good microphones you could cancel out > the noise and enhance the nearby sound. Fit the electronics and mics into a > battery powered, walkperson sized box, plug into it with head phones (the > ear plug kind, like what some performers use on stage) and have yourself a > "personal audio space". > > Anyone know if this is possible, or available? > > For looping or recording, it could be used as a pre-amp (a de-amp?) in noisy > places. > > Always Curious, > > -Allan > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 21:58:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19929; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:57:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:57:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005b01c0f863$47f28220$2c44f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106190100.VAA18477@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re:OT: Personal Audio space Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:58:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com <<>> That is exactly why the FBI invented the parametric equalizer: to hone in on a single sound source (a mobster making a hit request at an outdoor public pay phone) and eleminating all of the 'masking' frequencies of ambient traffic and conversation. They used it to narrow the bandwidth until it exactly matched the 'intelligibility' frequencies of the mobsters' voice and then crank up it's volume (or lower all the other frequencies' volumes). They used highly directional long distance shotgun microphones which can still be purchased (and are rather costly). Now, of course, this was told to me 20 years ago by somebody whose name I can't remember and I know that Richard Zvonar is going to write in with a detailed description of the person who did it (who will have been an acquaintance of his at one point, no doubt :-)-------seriously, Richard is the largest repository of musical facts of any human being that I"ve ever met and I mean that as the highest of high compliments). They have already included algorhythms to put subsonic distortioin out of phase with itself in the new (and highly recommended) 12" powered Mackie monitors, allowing them to produce subsonics down to 40 cycles with volume. We'll actually be using dinky 12" speakers as our mains for the lion share of the upcoming Bass Looping Tour!!!!!! later, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 22:01:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21093; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:59:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:59:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007901c0f863$9304f400$2c44f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106190100.VAA18477@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: OT: missing the Bass Looping Festival by circling bear scats Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:00:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <8LH7lC.A.aJF.1HrL7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com <<>> Well, Lance, I suppose if your circle and circle the bear scats you will , by definition, be looping ;-) Have fun, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 22:08:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21281; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:06:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:06:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009901c0f864$639fa9c0$2c44f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106190100.VAA18477@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: An L.A. house concert with Steve Lawson Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:06:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Steuart wrote: <<>> By being an obnoxious and persistent cheerleader for Live Looping!!! If you guys have a house concert with Steve Lawson, please, please get two or three of you L.A. loopers on the bill and have THE 1st LOS ANGELES LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL I know I must sound like a broken record on this LOOPING FESTIVAL business............but then again, if you think of it..............everyone on this list rather enjoys the sound of a broken record: ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 22:20:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21567; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:18:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:18:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.230.34.116] From: "shaw-han liem" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: buying a headrush online? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 02:18:01 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2001 02:18:01.0889 (UTC) FILETIME=[10D17910:01C0F866] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Does anyone know of an online store that has the Akai headrush in stock? All the usual suspects seem to be out.. any help appreciated, shaw-han _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 22:27:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21881; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:26:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:26:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:25:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: buying a headrush online? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, shaw-han liem wrote: > Does anyone know of an online store that has the Akai headrush in stock? All > the usual suspects seem to be out.. Try http://www.sixtecycle.com/ best, Steve -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 22:42:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22186; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:40:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:40:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:23:57 +0100 Subject: Re: buying a headrush online? From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sorry I don't but if I were you I'd get a Line 6 DL-4 instead, unless you specifically want the Headrush. I have both and the DL-4 is way better for everything. The only thing the Akai has is the multi outs and I never use them. Martin Shellard > From: "shaw-han liem" > Hi, > > Does anyone know of an online store that has the Akai headrush in stock? All > the usual suspects seem to be out.. > > any help appreciated, > > shaw-han From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 23:04:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23671; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:03:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:03:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2EC0A4.F52D26C1@altruistmusic.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:01:56 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: An L.A. house concert with Steve Lawson -- HOW ABOUT A PLAN? References: <200106190100.VAA18477@hemlock.violacea.com> <009901c0f864$639fa9c0$2c44f93f@dnlsh01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > If you guys have a house concert with Steve Lawson, please, please get > two or three of you L.A. loopers on the bill and have > THE 1st LOS ANGELES LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL OK! If there's room on the bill and the schedule, I'd be delighted to do some playing if anyone will have me (so to speak... ahem). My real-time solo guitar-loop demo tape: http://www.altruistmusic.com/archive/loop.html (four years old but not so shabby) http://www.altruistmusic.com/soundfiles/theory1.mp3 My schedule's pretty open, and my gear would be a guitar, an EDP, a Vortex, and maybe a guitar amp or two. Or I can run into a board if it'll make life easier. I can also offer my gear to others to play through if they'd like, so long as the signals and levels aren't exceedingly excessive. I'd be down with playing solo, in tandem with someone else -- whatever, for however long. I've wanted to see an LA thing like this happen for a while, and I've wanted to dust off the solo loop-show thing for myself as well. Two birds with one stone, as they say... I can pretty much guarantee I could bring a few folks as well, some of whom are very well-versed in the loop-realm... Logistics: If Tony can provide the space and do it any day other than Friday, then how about Saturday the 23rd or Sunday the 24th? Or the weekend after that if need be? Here's the potential players thus far: Steve Lawson Gary Lehman Tony Moore My own meager self Anyone else I've missed? Or haven't missed? Someone reply to this, and help get this thing happening, please! Andre LaFosse | Disruption Theory | http://www.altruistmusic.com ================================================================ "A spectacular collision of manifold musical thoughts and patterns... To call Disruption Theory a futuristic album would be an understatement." (20th Century Guitar Magazine, February 2001) "For electric guitar enthusiasts everywhere, this one's essential." (Alternative Press Magazine, September 2000) "Fucking amazing CD." (Derek Sivers, president, CD Baby) "His six-stringer is pumped up with energy, creating a firestorm of pyrotechnics and burning sounds, but with a sensitivity to weirdness and experimentation. Disruption Theory reveals the difference it makes when a player knows what he is doing. Here is one that deserves the title 'unique'." (Expose Magazine, October 2000) "Fripp and Zappa, step aside." (MOJO Magazine, May 2000) ========================================================= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 23:07:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23797; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:06:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:06:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2EC15A.9188AEDA@altruistmusic.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:04:57 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: An L.A. house concert with Steve Lawson -- HOW ABOUT A PLAN? References: <200106190100.VAA18477@hemlock.violacea.com> <009901c0f864$639fa9c0$2c44f93f@dnlsh01> <3B2EC0A4.F52D26C1@altruistmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9Dk1lC.A.ozF.TGsL7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ooooooops... ...um, how about a correct URL for the second "demo tape" link, eh? http://www.altruistmusic.com/soundfiles/Theory1.mp3 Sheeeeesh.... --Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 23:11:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23926; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:10:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:10:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.230.34.116] From: "shaw-han liem" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: buying a headrush online? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:09:33 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2001 03:09:33.0888 (UTC) FILETIME=[43CB1400:01C0F86D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Thanks for this advice. I'm really not married to the idea of owning a Headrush although it seems to be the cheapest thing that does the job. I just looked at the line 6 unit and it looks like it has nice features. how editable is the sound on this unit? looks like a lot of knobs. i'm planning on using it in a live electronic setting, building synth loops etc. so the 'tweekability' may be worth the extra $100. but any opinions are appriciated. thanks, shaw-han >From: Martin Shellard >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: buying a headrush online? >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:23:57 +0100 > >Sorry I don't but if I were you I'd get a Line 6 DL-4 instead, unless you >specifically want the Headrush. >I have both and the DL-4 is way better for everything. The only thing the >Akai has is the multi outs and I never use them. > >Martin Shellard > > > > From: "shaw-han liem" > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know of an online store that has the Akai headrush in stock? >All > > the usual suspects seem to be out.. > > > > any help appreciated, > > > > shaw-han > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 23:17:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24091; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:15:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:15:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2EC38D.3089A394@altruistmusic.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:14:21 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: house concert with Steve Lawson -- correction (again) References: <200106190100.VAA18477@hemlock.violacea.com> <009901c0f864$639fa9c0$2c44f93f@dnlsh01> <3B2EC0A4.F52D26C1@altruistmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1PpMxB.A.P4F.HPsL7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PS #2, I see I inadvertently omitted Andrew Pask from the list... So it is: Steve Lawson Gary Lehman Tony Moore Andrew Pask My own (increasingly) meager self I'd happily stick to the sidelines on this if it'll make it easier to accommodate the thing happening, i.e. with fewer participants... ...OK, someone else's turn now. --A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 23:23:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24333; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:19:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:19:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: RE: An L.A. house concert with Steve Lawson -- HOW ABOUT A PLAN? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:19:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3B2EC0A4.F52D26C1@altruistmusic.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK . . . I can do this--Tony's place sounds like a good space--and if this is to be a performance as opposed to something more informal I am still game. However, I know next to nobody in LA and so will not be able to bring any spectators. Is advertising indicated? Is this something we should try to announce to the public? Perhaps some of you who are more connected up here can help. I still have not heard back from Steve Lawson (I pmailed him about his recent equipment dilemma) but this would seem to fall into the time he is available, and he probably has some folks who would attend. I am as much interested as a spectator as a performer but welcome the opportunity to showcase my approach to the live Memorex thang . . . Gary Lehmann Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > If you guys have a house concert with Steve Lawson, please, please get > two or three of you L.A. loopers on the bill and have > THE 1st LOS ANGELES LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL Then Andre said-- If there's room on the bill and the schedule, I'd be delighted to do some playing if anyone will have me (so to speak... ahem). I can pretty much guarantee I could bring a few folks as well, some of whom are very well-versed in the loop-realm... Logistics: If Tony can provide the space and do it any day other than Friday, then how about Saturday the 23rd or Sunday the 24th? Or the weekend after that if need be? Here's the potential players thus far: Steve Lawson Gary Lehman Tony Moore My own meager self Anyone else I've missed? Or haven't missed? Someone reply to this, and help get this thing happening, please! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 23:29:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24520; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:27:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:27:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001e01c0f870$50e22f40$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: Subject: Re: ASIO routing in Reason? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:31:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0F835.A3F56F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0F835.A3F56F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have this option as well- however it is not a routing dialog- it only = allows me to set active outputs- what it is missing is the ability to = set the 1 and 2 outputs to 3 and 4 etc- anyway, I posted to cubase.net = forums- hopefully this feature will be implemented in the future, or I = will be enlightened as to another soloution- I got my EDP and Electrix = stuff on my aux sends and they are salivating at the idea- :) Thanks! Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Neil Goldstein=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 5:53 PM Subject: RE: ASIO routing in Reason? I use a Mac with the 828, so not sure if this will help. I was = wondering the same thing until I looked carefully in Preferences, Audio. = Choose ASIO and look carefully at the options in the dialog box. There = should be a dropdown with output options to check multiple channels. -----Original Message----- From: Om_Audio [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 5:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: ASIO routing in Reason? Helllo-=20 I love the ASIO routing I have in B4, Pro52 etc- I was wondering why = I do not have this routing available to me in Reason? I am using P3 with = a MOTU 2408mk2- I love routing B4 or other to 3 and 4 outputs and into = my outboard mixer to be processed etc- looped and more without feeding = back into 1 and 2 inputs- great for live fun with friends and family- = Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0F835.A3F56F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have this option as well- however it = is not a=20 routing dialog- it only allows me to set active outputs- what it is = missing is=20 the ability to set the 1 and 2 outputs to 3 and 4 etc- anyway, I posted = to=20 cubase.net forums- hopefully this feature will be implemented in the = future, or=20 I will be enlightened as to another soloution- I got my EDP and Electrix = stuff=20 on my aux sends and they are salivating at the idea- :)
Thanks!
Cliff
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From:=20 Neil = Goldstein
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 = 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: ASIO routing in=20 Reason?

I=20 use a Mac with the 828, so not sure if this will help. I was wondering = the=20 same thing until I looked carefully in Preferences, Audio. Choose ASIO = and=20 look carefully at the options in the dialog box. There should be a = dropdown=20 with output options to check multiple channels.
-----Original Message-----
From: Om_Audio=20 [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Monday, June 18, = 2001 5:22=20 PM
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Helllo-
 
I love the ASIO routing I have in = B4, Pro52=20 etc- I was wondering why I do not have this routing available to me = in=20 Reason? I am using P3 with a MOTU 2408mk2- I love routing B4 or = other to 3=20 and 4 outputs and into my outboard mixer to be processed etc- looped = and=20 more without feeding back into 1 and 2 inputs- great for live fun = with=20 friends and family-=20 Cliff
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0F835.A3F56F20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 23:45:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25391; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:44:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:44:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: LA Looping Fest Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:43:29 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi LA loop people-- I spoke with Tony and his space is good for about 30 people--sound is not a problem, but it's not really a great performance place--there's no furniture, and it's not overlarge. Also, from what I can tell, Steve isn't in town until the following Saturday, and Tony's out of town that weekend (and I have a job Fri and Sat nights, which makes it less attractive to me). It's not an either/or proposition, but those are the facts. If we could do it this Saturday (and I'd love to see Andre do his thing), that would be best for me. Or maybe during the week would be better . . . that's the week Tony is a "bachelor" . . . and Steve would be in town-- Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 18 23:51:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26261; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:50:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:50:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:50:41 +0100 Subject: Re: buying a headrush online? From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Akai is cheap but it has very limited uses as a looper. The DL-4 has much more live tweaking potential. The knobs do different things depending on the mode. In loop mode they control a delay line that feeds into the looper (c.750ms). Using the buttons you can control playback direction (forward or reverse) and speed (normal or 1/2) it will also record/overdub at 1/2 speed or backwards so you can make complex loops using different speeds and directions. You can assign the optional expression pedal to control any or all of the knobs on the front panel (except the model selector) you set two values for each knob and the pedal sweeps between them. I use this to control the delay time of the pre-loop delay while I'm playing. The delay models are cool too, you can get some of the models to howl with feedback or get very weird textures from the reverse delays. The Line 6 is a great unit for the $, on bang for the buck it's way better than the Akai (it's sounds better too, 24 bit and true bypass when not switched in). The headrush has no tweakability, it's basically a sample playback device with o/dubbing and no realtime control (even the parameters you can adjust have noticeable zipper noise). Martin Shellard > From: "shaw-han liem" > Hi, > > Thanks for this advice. I'm really not married to the idea of owning a > Headrush although it seems to be the cheapest thing that does the job. I > just looked at the line 6 unit and it looks like it has nice features. how > editable is the sound on this unit? looks like a lot of knobs. > > i'm planning on using it in a live electronic setting, building synth loops > etc. so the 'tweekability' may be worth the extra $100. but any opinions are > appriciated. > > thanks, > > shaw-han > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 00:11:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA27799; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:09:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:09:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:01:13 -0700 Subject: Re: An L.A. house concert with Steve Lawson Message-ID: <20010618.210113.-238733.1.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,14-15,17-22,24-57 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wow rick, we've never met, but somehow i just didn't imagine you in a color coordinated pleated skirt and letter sweater vest ;-) sorry, just kidding! i couldn't agree with you more! so my space in downtown burbank is being offered up unless someone else has a better space. it's about 500 sq on the second floor (w/ ac). right now it's just a big open room and a smaller room with a foyer (and bathroom). it's near the the village district of burbank with no residential near so it'll be cool for music. none of the buisiness below or directly next door are open in the evenings. i can offer some sound gear (i could record the event too) and a few chairs. we could comfortably fit 20-30, but could possibly squeeze more if everyone is friendly. oh, the address is 359 east magnolia st, burbank, ca 91501. i have a phone/fax hooked up and the number is 818/848-2057. so there you have it! if steve and any la loopers are into it, i'm free this weekend or any night next week. tony 818/563-6514 home phone tony-moore@juno.com On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:06:01 -0700 "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" writes: > Steuart wrote: > << a performance there? i would really dig being able to do a set under > the > redwoods...i >>> > > By being an obnoxious and persistent cheerleader for Live Looping!!! > > If you guys have a house concert with Steve Lawson, please, please > get > two or three of you L.A. loopers on the bill and have > THE 1st LOS ANGELES LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL > > > I know I must sound like a broken record on this LOOPING FESTIVAL > business............but then again, if you think of > it..............everyone > on this list rather enjoys the sound of a broken record: > > ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > ".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > > > Rick > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 00:11:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA27798; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:09:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:09:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200106190409.VAA05850@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:11:34 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com this is really ot but here in sf,cali there is that wacky place called 'the exploratorium' where there all these exhibits of weird and wonderful manmade and natural phenomenon and one of them is these two chairs that sit across from each other aprox.50ft. or so(maybe not that far!) and you are to sit in them and talk to each other in a normal voice and thru all the cacaphony of the place which is more like a warehouse and echoey as hell w/ alotta kid and people,the person at the other chair can hear you perfectly and you can have a conversation as if there was no one else around-how is it done?no idea-but there is a kinda acoustic cone that is actually the chair and i guess that sends the voices i dont know,kinda sorry i brought it up...but it would be great for restaraunts of which you speak! stanner ---------- >From: Tom Ritchford >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? >Date: Mon, Jun 18, 2001, 6:21 PM > >From: "Allan Hoeltje" > >>Have you ever been in a loud restaurant and couldn't make out what the >>person sitting across from you was saying because the background noise was >>so loud? >> >>What I want is a "perception aid". It seems to me that DSP's are good >>enough that if combined with a couple good microphones you could cancel out >>the noise and enhance the nearby sound. Fit the electronics and mics into a >>battery powered, walkperson sized box, plug into it with head phones (the >>ear plug kind, like what some performers use on stage) and have yourself a >>"personal audio space". >> >>Anyone know if this is possible, or available? >> >>For looping or recording, it could be used as a pre-amp (a de-amp?) in noisy >>places. > >This is a great idea and it's certainly not implausible at first glance. > >You all know about the sound cancellation earphones (that were invented >for the first round-the-world plane flight when they worked out that >the pilots would be deaf before the halfway point because of the >noise!) > >But a similar idea is used in professional sound reinforcement in large spaces, >where speakers with signals out of phase with the original are placed >in order to reduce the effect of reflections and improve intelligibility. > >The trouble is setting the correct phase and thus delay for each >frequency and direction. The pros do it with a complex series of >measurements and experiments in the space itself... > > >Now suppose you just had a speaker and a mic and a little microprocessor (uP). > >the mic faces outward. >the speaker faces inward. >the uP is logically "in between". > > > blah \ / -blah > THEM blah - -> mic -- uP -- speaker - -> - -blah YOU > blah / \ -blah > > >then >1. the mic gets a signal and send it to the uP. >2. the uP inverts the signal, > (then adds a negative feedback/delay term in order to damp out > the feedback through the mic -- this is where the tricky > part comes in) >3. and sends it to the speaker, thus cancelling out the noise, at > least in the direction of that speaker and YOU! > >have five of these things and you are set! (you'd want one >overhead because a lot of the sound would be coming from >ceiling reflections, particularly in a restaurant where >the ceiling is usually the only good reflector!) > >even two might work pretty well. > > >now, with a bigger uP you could do stuff like this: > >... have a lot of small mics > >... compute the actual 3-d "sonograph" of the sound > >... reduce it similarly to holography to a three channel version > >... send the inverse to three speakers and "completely" cancel the > sound in a small area. > >the amount of computation involved is large but not inconceivable >and the mathematics is "well-known" (to people other than myself, >mind you...) > > is a really >nice short though slightly technical summary of this technique. > > /t > > > that was fast > >.......all legal games of chess ...... >.....programmer's documentation .................. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 00:15:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28007; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:14:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:14:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:06:17 -0700 Subject: Re: An L.A. house concert with Steve Lawson -- HOW ABOUT A PLAN? Message-ID: <20010618.210618.-238733.2.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,4-7,10-15,17-95 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com either day is cool with me! the timing is perfect as my girls are traveling. btw, i wouldn't mind making this a regular event if people are interested. feel free to give me a shout. i do have a little mackie 1202vlz, various mics and other gear and a good biamped event monitor system with a sub that should be just fine for that size room. or anyone good bring amps too. tony 818/563-6514 home tony-moore@juno.com On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:01:56 -0700 Andre LaFosse writes: > "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > > > If you guys have a house concert with Steve Lawson, please, > please get > > two or three of you L.A. loopers on the bill and have > > THE 1st LOS ANGELES LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL > > OK! > > If there's room on the bill and the schedule, I'd be delighted to do > some playing if anyone will have me (so to speak... ahem). > > My real-time solo guitar-loop demo tape: > > http://www.altruistmusic.com/archive/loop.html (four years old but > not > so shabby) > > http://www.altruistmusic.com/soundfiles/theory1.mp3 > > My schedule's pretty open, and my gear would be a guitar, an EDP, a > Vortex, and maybe a guitar amp or two. Or I can run into a board if > it'll make life easier. I can also offer my gear to others to play > through if they'd like, so long as the signals and levels aren't > exceedingly excessive. > > I'd be down with playing solo, in tandem with someone else -- > whatever, for however long. I've wanted to see an LA thing like > this > happen for a while, and I've wanted to dust off the solo loop-show > thing for myself as well. Two birds with one stone, as they say... > > I can pretty much guarantee I could bring a few folks as well, some > of > whom are very well-versed in the loop-realm... > > Logistics: > > If Tony can provide the space and do it any day other than Friday, > then how about Saturday the 23rd or Sunday the 24th? Or the weekend > after that if need be? > > Here's the potential players thus far: > > Steve Lawson > Gary Lehman > Tony Moore > My own meager self > > Anyone else I've missed? Or haven't missed? > > Someone reply to this, and help get this thing happening, please! > > Andre LaFosse | Disruption Theory | http://www.altruistmusic.com > ================================================================ > "A spectacular collision of manifold musical thoughts and > patterns... To > call Disruption Theory a futuristic album would be an > understatement." > (20th Century Guitar Magazine, February 2001) > > "For electric guitar enthusiasts everywhere, this one's essential." > (Alternative Press Magazine, September 2000) > > "Fucking amazing CD." > (Derek Sivers, president, CD Baby) > > "His six-stringer is pumped up with energy, creating a firestorm of > pyrotechnics and burning sounds, but with a sensitivity to weirdness > and > experimentation. Disruption Theory reveals the difference it makes > when > a player knows what he is doing. Here is one that deserves the title > 'unique'." (Expose Magazine, October 2000) > > "Fripp and Zappa, step aside." (MOJO Magazine, May 2000) > ========================================================= > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 00:22:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28181; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:20:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:20:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2ED2D0.3289C33F@altruistmusic.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:19:29 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LA Looping Fest References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wow, things moving quickly... OK, here are my thoughts for right now: -- In my opinion, the main reason to try and scramble to organize it in the very near future is to accommodate Steve Lawson's schedule for his being in town. The locals can always get something happening on our own, on our own time... -- I think a semi-private/semi-public thing would be cool. In other words, spread the word to personal acquaintances we know would be into it, but don't try to go all out announcing the thing to the public at large, especially if the lodgings are somewhat spartan. I'm sure word of mouth could fill a 30-person space easily. -- A weeknight is a possibility as well... I could take some time out during the day to help set things up logistically at the space, so that a healthy chunk of evening time (say, 6:30 - 10:30 or so) could be used strictly for performing, as opposed to set-up time. -- Sunday the 24th is out for me, at least from 7:30 PM on -- gotta teach a geetar lesson that evening (I durn forgot). Could do it earlier I suppose... Again, I can definitely sit this one out if need be. -- Depending on how an initial thing goes, this might be a good precursor to trying to do something more serious, in a more public environment (like the AlterKnit lounge at the Knitting Factory). The "pre-release" version, if you will... I think we'd best wait for Mr. Lawson to chime in at this point...? Any other would-be exhibitionists? --Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 00:45:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28630; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:43:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:43:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:35:23 -0700 Subject: Re: LA Looping Fest Message-ID: <20010618.213523.-238733.3.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,9-16,18-59 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey andre, great point! assuming that steve is even interested in this, i think he should be the focal point as well. you're right, we can do a local loop hang any time. and i'd love to do something regular and like you said, have 'official' events somewhere like the alterknit. there's also alot of other cool places we could hold it as well. my space is open anytime anyone wants to use it. again, as you said, let's wait and see what steve thinks and then we can plan an additional 'la loopers league' gathering :-) sounds like fun to me! you guys are gonna keep me out of trouble :-) later, tony On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:19:29 -0700 Andre LaFosse writes: > Wow, things moving quickly... > > OK, here are my thoughts for right now: > > -- In my opinion, the main reason to try and scramble to organize it > in the very near future is to accommodate Steve Lawson's schedule > for > his being in town. The locals can always get something happening on > our own, on our own time... > > -- I think a semi-private/semi-public thing would be cool. In other > words, spread the word to personal acquaintances we know would be > into > it, but don't try to go all out announcing the thing to the public > at > large, especially if the lodgings are somewhat spartan. I'm sure > word > of mouth could fill a 30-person space easily. > > -- A weeknight is a possibility as well... I could take some time > out > during the day to help set things up logistically at the space, so > that a healthy chunk of evening time (say, 6:30 - 10:30 or so) could > be used strictly for performing, as opposed to set-up time. > > -- Sunday the 24th is out for me, at least from 7:30 PM on -- gotta > teach a geetar lesson that evening (I durn forgot). Could do it > earlier I suppose... Again, I can definitely sit this one out if > need be. > > -- Depending on how an initial thing goes, this might be a good > precursor to trying to do something more serious, in a more public > environment (like the AlterKnit lounge at the Knitting Factory). > The > "pre-release" version, if you will... > > I think we'd best wait for Mr. Lawson to chime in at this point...? > Any other would-be exhibitionists? > > --Andre > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 01:22:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30427; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:21:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:21:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Transceovr@aol.com Message-ID: <11a.7bc26d.28603b06@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:20:06 EDT Subject: Re: drums and tuba To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com .... as a drummer myself it has been really interesting to become familiar with tonys (drummer of drums and tuba) sound... very gracefully integrates an excellent electronic element in the unique world that is drums and tuba... they are really one of the most intriguing and inspiring groups Ive experienced recently. Im curious to know how many drummers are on this list who do the same with looped based music and have successfully merged their live approach to both arts... loopalong, K. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 03:16:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA02505; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:12:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:12:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007001c0f88f$1f914600$1e41f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106190329.XAA24574@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: OT: Jehn's (and anyone else's tinitus) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:11:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tinitus is nerve damage and western audiologist believe that there is nothing to be done about it. I struggled with it for years having played a lot of high decibel new wave, rock, funk, soul and world beat music. Eastern doctors (accupuncturists) have a completely different take on it and I, for one am living proof. After one horrible four night, four set gig with a really obnoxiously loud bass player I sat in bed one night weeping because I could hardly sleep with how loud the whistling was in my ear's. My accupuncturist urged the use of 1) rest to my ears 2) the use of earplugs (which I still can't make myself wear 3) the herb formula Lie Wei (sp?) which can be found in any good chinese medicinal herb store and 4) a very unusual and highly effective physical therapy technique that really worked for me: to wit: a)with your first finger of both hands, close the flap of skin at the front of your ears so that it completely covers the opening to the ear canal. b) Now, with the middle finger, tap strongly onto the back of your first finger exactly twelve times (the chinese are very into numerology which this poor boy's cartesian, skeptical upbringing makes it difficult to understand but you just can't argue with success) c)wait a second and concentrate on the ringing. You will hear the volume go down. I have even discovered that if you actually try to audiohallucinate the volume going down rapidly it seems to have a strong effect---I just figured this out by myself but my accupuncturist says, "you can't argue with success". d) repeat this procedure two more times (for a total of three repitions of twelve strikes each). This has worked miracles with my ears. I hope it works for you. 5) drink a lot of water and get a lot of sleep. The chinese believe that ear problems are directly related to Kidney chi, which is adversely affected by lack of hydration and lack of sleep. They also believe that a lot of fear response comes from the lack of these two vital ways that we nurture ourselves. I've been a night owl, decadent musician all of my life so it has been hard to do all of these things but I have to admit, when I can get myself to do them, my tinitus gets way quiet and frequently goes completely away. 6) Find a really good accupuncurist, realize that the needles do NOT hurt and get them to give you fresh herb formulas which are more potent. The best of luck to all of you sufferers of tinitus and other nerve damage to the ears. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 06:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA07958; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:36:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:36:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <050801c0f8ab$85596be0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: LA Looping Fest Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:35:10 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Man, that sounds great. Hope you take some photos and record...! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candace Meyer" To: Sent: 19 June 2001 04:43 AM Subject: LA Looping Fest > Hi LA loop people-- > I spoke with Tony and his space is good for about 30 people--sound is not a > problem, but it's not really a great performance place--there's no > furniture, and it's not overlarge. Also, from what I can tell, Steve isn't > in town until the following Saturday, and Tony's out of town that weekend > (and I have a job Fri and Sat nights, which makes it less attractive to me). > It's not an either/or proposition, but those are the facts. If we could do > it this Saturday (and I'd love to see Andre do his thing), that would be > best for me. Or maybe during the week would be better . . . that's the week > Tony is a "bachelor" . . . and Steve would be in town-- > Gary > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 07:03:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08168; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:52:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:52:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:51:55 -0700 Subject: LA loop fest!! From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5T11pB.A.d_B.76yL7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>If Tony can provide the space and do it any day other than Friday, then how about Saturday the 23rd or Sunday the 24th? Or the weekend after that if need be? Here's the potential players thus far: Steve Lawson Gary Lehman Tony Moore My own meager self Anyone else I've missed? Or haven't missed? Someone reply to this, and help get this thing happening, please!<<< I'm SOOOO up for this - let's do it - I could probably do 24th (I land on the 23rd, so not the best day for a gig), but a little longer to get the word out would be cool... the following weekend, I'm playing at Bass Day at MI in Hollywood, so am not available Saturday, but could do Sunday night, or pretty much any night during the week... Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 07:04:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08167; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:52:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:52:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:51:55 -0700 Subject: House gig in LA... From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>tho' it's not at my house, but a space i lease for work. it'll eventually be another research lab, but it's pretty empty right now. it's about 500 square feet. it's on the second floor of a building that's entirely vacant in the evenings, so it'd be cool for music. it's also in downtown, burbank, so it's convenient. it's available for anyone who'd like to put on a small show, or just come over and jam. i also have some recording gear there :-)<<< this definitely sounds like fun - i'm up for playing. we'll sort out the details off-list and get back to y'all... :o) Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 08:55:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA12020; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:53:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:53:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106191257.FAA27093@dork.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: EMUmail 2.70 Organization: Visionary Mixologist/SoUnDs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Lucien E. Darthard" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:57:23 GMT Reply-To: "Lucien E. Darthard" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Never Choose One's Enemies, For You Might Have Forsaken a Friend *** A Goal Is A Dream, With A Deadline Attached to it ! *** L.Darthard _____________________________________________ help d0rK.c0m stay banner free. Click below. http://www.dork.com/band/legal.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 08:58:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA12212; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:57:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:57:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:56:46 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ahoeltje@best.com writes: >Sorry if this seems too far off topic but I figured someone here might >know >about hearing aid technology. true! >Have you ever been in a loud restaurant and couldn't make out what the >person sitting across from you was saying because the background noise >was so loud? >What I want is a "perception aid". 'perception aid'? you could learn to lip-read. >It seems to me that DSP's are good >enough that if combined with a couple good microphones you could cancel >out >the noise and enhance the nearby sound. w/a (probably uncomfortable) delay introduced between the actual occurrence-of-sound, & that which enters yer p.a.s..... >Fit the electronics and mics into >a battery powered, walkperson sized box, plug into it with head phones (the >ear plug kind, like what some performers use on stage) and have yourself >a >"personal audio space". >Anyone know if this is possible, or available? sounds possible; indeed, i think it's being done, to some degree; 'hush' inna hearing-aid, huh? w/o the analysis, though. if yer really interested, check out current hearing-aid technology. best, dt / s-c >For looping or recording, it could be used as a pre-amp (a de-amp?) in >noisy >places. > >Always Curious, > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 09:40:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13866; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:39:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:39:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008901c0f8c5$02739970$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <11a.7bc26d.28603b06@aol.com> Subject: Re: drums and tuba Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:37:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <2pweNB.A.hYD.JY1L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Im curious to know how many drummers are on this list > who do the same with looped based music and have successfully merged their > live approach to both arts... I'm a looping drummer. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 09:41:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13916; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:40:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:40:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:40:44 -0400 Subject: Re: buying a headrush online? From: David Myers To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9SX8WB.A._YD.kY1L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I must like the DL4 better than the Headrush, since I've owned both but currently only have the DL4. It will certainly do more stuff. But you should be aware that, unlike the Headrush, there is no control whatsoever over delay feedback! This is a pretty serious disadvantage if you're interested in gradually evolving/fading loop layers. My second complaint is applicable to both these units: mono! Actually, for a lot of what I do, it might be worth getting two Headrushes and wiring up the start, etc., buttons in tandem. Still waiting for the inevitable Headrush blowout, and when it happens I'll be interested in the piece again... David Lee Myers http://www.pulsewidth.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ourobouros" CD of new Feedback Music available now on Pulsewidth! In NYC at Downtown Music, Kim's Mondo, Kim's West, and Other Music, and through Forced Exposure, Anomalous, Wayside, CDeMusic/Electronic Music Foundation, Deep Listening Catalog, Crouton Music, Recommended (UK), Staalplaat (Netherlands), and Metamkine (France). on 6/18/01 11:50 PM, Martin Shellard at m.shellard@ntlworld.com wrote: > The Line 6 is a great unit for the $, on bang for the buck it's way better > than the Akai (it's sounds better too, 24 bit and true bypass when not > switched in). > The headrush has no tweakability, it's basically a sample playback device > with o/dubbing and no realtime control (even the parameters you can adjust > have noticeable zipper noise). > > > Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 09:47:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14124; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:45:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:45:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <129.420d04.2860b126@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:44:06 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Quad Looping? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com tom@swirly.com writes: >>Has anyone been studying the Repeater manual?(or would Damon like to >>comment?) It appears one needs to choose between quadraphonic looping >>and using the effects loop. methinks the terminology's a bit different; any repeater 'loop' consists of up to 4 individually-addressable 'tracks'; the separate track-addressability includes pitch (+12 > -24), slipping, panning, output, fx send, volume, overdubbing (&, to some degree, 'reverse'). in my understanding, one does not need to choose between 'quad'-looping & the fx-loop; all loops are '4-voices', ie 'quadraphonic'. however, the 4 separate outputs are fully utilised *when* using the fx-sends as an add'l. output-pair. hope that helps. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 10:02:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15452; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:01:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:01:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <129.420d04.2860b126@aol.com> References: <129.420d04.2860b126@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:59:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Repeater Quad Looping? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <1xOFHC.A.OxD.Ds1L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: >tom@swirly.com writes: > > >>Has anyone been studying the Repeater manual?(or would Damon like to > >>comment?) It appears one needs to choose between quadraphonic looping > >>and using the effects loop. Oi, I didn't write that! I *answered* that! (just for the record, y'know...) >methinks the terminology's a bit different; >any repeater 'loop' consists of up to 4 individually-addressable 'tracks'; >the separate track-addressability includes pitch (+12 > -24), slipping, >panning, output, fx send, volume, overdubbing (&, to some degree, 'reverse'). and the devout hope is that all of these parameters are in fact controllable through MIDI. >in my understanding, one does not need to choose between 'quad'-looping & the >fx-loop; >all loops are '4-voices', ie 'quadraphonic'. this agrees with my understanding as well... /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 10:08:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15618; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:07:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:07:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:05:14 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: buying a headrush online? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com David Lee Myers writes: >I must like the DL4 better than the Headrush, since I've owned both but >currently only have the DL4. It will certainly do more stuff. But you >should be aware that, unlike the Headrush, there is no control whatsoever >over delay feedback! This is a pretty serious disadvantage if you're >interested in gradually evolving/fading loop layers. My second complaint is >applicable to both these units: mono! Well, the DL4 is only mono when it's looping... it does take stereo inputs though I get the feeling that they are summed to mono for the actual effects calculation. And it generates some very very stereo output, the ping pong with regen has enough stereo to melt your ears. I have both units and I use the Headrush JUST as a looper and the DL4 RARELY as a looper. The DL4 is a fine looper, probably better than the Headrush, but I like to do those spacey swirly effects and the DL4 gets co-opted for that (and thus cannot sit on the floor but has to be on a stand so's I can tweak the knobs). The Headrush is small, it's simple, and it's pretty tolerant of wide ranges of input levels (the DL4 is pretty picky that way, its optimal operating range is quite narrow...) And it's a little cheaper. But get the DL4, it's a better unit and you'll never regret it. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 10:29:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16121; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:27:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:27:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010619102751.00a34bc0@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:29:26 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #307 In-Reply-To: <200106190100.VAA18475@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1740846==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_1740846==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:30:03 -0700 >From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" >To: >Subject: OT: F*ck H*ck, Tom's the man >Message-ID: <003501c0f82d$193081c0$a944f93f@dnlsh01> >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > > ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like > > Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him > > paint his fence ;-) > >actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way the >slacker, t.s. the huckster... > >a:c > >rick replies: well, it jus goes to show ya', read too many of them dang >'quipment manuels an ya fergets yer learnin' > >anyway, wasn't Huck the bass player in Nirvana? no again, him + his bro were those crowded house guys! ;-) oh, i SLAY me.... a:c ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_1740846==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"



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Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote:
> ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like
> Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him
> paint his fence ;-)

actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way the
slacker, t.s. the huckster...

a:c

rick replies:   well, it jus goes to show ya', read too many of them dang
'quipment manuels an ya fergets yer learnin'

anyway, wasn't Huck the bass player in Nirvana?


no again, him + his bro were those crowded house guys!     ;-)

oh, i SLAY me....

a:c


++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--=====================_1740846==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 10:34:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16310; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:32:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:32:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00fe01c0f8cc$f0b53c40$222df7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" Subject: (off topic) trip to LA... Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:34:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ...as a long shot, does anyone have any leads on cheaper car rental in LA? any promotions going on that I should know about? anyone work for Dollar? :o) Steve web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" - Bruce Cockburn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 10:39:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16472; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:38:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:38:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.16] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: OT: Personal Audio Space? tinius Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:37:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2001 14:37:13.0082 (UTC) FILETIME=[543075A0:01C0F8CD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, I spent some time building, fixing, and seeing some new stuff on hearing aids. Shoot I even wear them. One quite popular company puts a 16 band EQ in them. The one's I wear, have 2 digital settings. I have them calibrated to cut all the highs or restore my loss, which is at the high end. I have made some with directional mics. They attenuate the sound from the back of the head. This is the limit that I have seen for enhanced perception. As I have watched this thread bring up tinius, I should add, they do have a hearing aid for sufferers of tinius. They do not call them hearing aids as they do not amplify sound. They are pretty much aids without a microphone, using the noise floor of the amp to mask the tinius. I don't believe the noise cancelling system to be useable for hearing aids. Hearing aids are VERY limited in cancelling out unwanted noise and are a pain in the ars. Amp noise is very present in these also, constant buzz. The low voltage source has much to do with this. The different amps also have different sounds. I have 2 liniar amps that I always though I would put into a mic for harmonica as they have a great midrange tone. Capt. Molecule ------------------------ From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: OT: Personal Audio Space? >Sorry if this seems too far off topic but I figured someone here might know >about hearing aid technology. I will also throw in some loop content. :-) > >Have you ever been in a loud restaurant and couldn't make out what the >person sitting across from you was saying because the background noise was >so loud? > >What I want is a "perception aid". It seems to me that DSP's are good >enough that if combined with a couple good microphones you could cancel out >the noise and enhance the nearby sound. Fit the electronics and mics into a >battery powered, walkperson sized box, plug into it with head phones (the >ear plug kind, like what some performers use on stage) and have yourself a >"personal audio space". > >Anyone know if this is possible, or available? > >For looping or recording, it could be used as a pre-amp (a de-amp?) in noisy >places. > >Always Curious, > >-Allan > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 10:59:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16862; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:58:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:58:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001901c0f8d0$2a017b00$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <00fe01c0f8cc$f0b53c40$222df7c2@zetnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: (off topic) trip to LA... Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:57:13 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I dunno about Dollar, but Alamo was pretty easy to deal with the last time I had to rent at LAX. They've also got drop-offs at Burbank Airport, which should make things easy considering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" Sent: 19 June 2001 15:34 PM Subject: (off topic) trip to LA... > ...as a long shot, does anyone have any leads on cheaper car rental in LA? any promotions going on that I should know about? > anyone work for Dollar? :o) > > Steve > web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk > e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk > mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) > > "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, > You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" > - Bruce Cockburn > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 11:40:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18494; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:38:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:38:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2F717C.1BD780B0@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:36:28 -0400 From: "Ronald S. Smith" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010618102907.00a31280@mail.pdfsystems.com> <3B2E1B08.4B2B0530@bellsouth.net> <00a901c0f80b$796bcad0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1794CE02704D9727EAD8451C" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------1794CE02704D9727EAD8451C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Dennis: Thanks for your advice. I believe you are correct and I will take your advice. Yours truly, Ron Smith. Dennis Leas wrote: > Hi Ron! Welcome to the list! > If anybody has any comments or advices > on choosing between the> Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim > Echoplex Digital Pro,> please let me hear from you. I'm a EDP fanatic > so I could go on and on about the EDP features vs. Jamman features, > but instead I'll take another approach and avoid religious > discussions. Get an EDP because you can probably order one with a > 30-day return policy. If you get a Jamman, you'll probably have to > buy it from an individual who is unlikely to offer a return policy. > So if you don't like the EDP, you can return it. If you don't like > the Jamman, you'd have to re-sell it to recoup your bucks. Dennis Leas > > ------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com --------------1794CE02704D9727EAD8451C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Dennis:
       Thanks for your advice.  I believe you are correct and I will take your advice.  Yours truly, Ron Smith.

Dennis Leas wrote:

Hi Ron! Welcome to the list! > If anybody has any comments or advices on choosing between the> Lexicon Jamman or the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro,> please let me hear from you. I'm a EDP fanatic so I could go on and on about the EDP features vs. Jamman features, but instead I'll take another approach and avoid religious discussions. Get an EDP because you can probably order one with a 30-day return policy.  If you get a Jamman, you'll probably have to buy it from an individual who is unlikely to offer a return policy.  So if you don't like the EDP, you can return it.  If you don't like the Jamman, you'd have to re-sell it to recoup your bucks. Dennis Leas
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dennis@mdbs.com
--------------1794CE02704D9727EAD8451C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 11:54:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18782; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:53:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:53:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cave@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1-J Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:52:26 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: Re: "Looper's Delight J" update Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Loopers, Sorry for my delay.. We made our webcast live gig "Looper's Delight J" report page. URL is below. http://low.cavestudio.org/LD_J/2001/ Now is pictures only, but Realaudio clips available soon. Regards Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 12:19:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20260; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:12:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:12:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005201c0f8d9$ad60ae40$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: Re: "Looper's Delight J" update Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:05:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: <3gPROC.A.V7E.xj3L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com *trumpets* Yay! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunao Inami" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:52 AM Subject: Re: "Looper's Delight J" update > Hi Loopers, > > Sorry for my delay.. > > We made our webcast live gig "Looper's Delight J" report page. > URL is below. > http://low.cavestudio.org/LD_J/2001/ > > Now is pictures only, but Realaudio clips available soon. > > Regards > > Sunao Inami > http://www.cavestudio.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 12:51:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21099; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:48:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:48:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: alex@postal.pixar.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:47:43 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Alex Stahl Subject: Zoom PS02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Loopists, Has anyone played with the Zoom PS02 pocket portastudio thingy? I've often wished I had a scratchpad recorder in my bag for jotting down melodic ideas. The effects listing for this unit (see http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/models/PS02/pdmodel.html ) includes the following tease: VO-JAM Good for sound-on-sound with long delay If anyone knows how long the delay is, or has other comments, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Sorry if this has been covered already. -Alex Stahl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 13:00:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21378; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:59:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:59:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01c501c0f8e1$5ea86c40$222df7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" Subject: LA date... Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:48:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Right, I've just had a gig booked in Temple City on Tuesday 26th ( a week today) - so I'd suggest Thursday for the loop fest gig in Burbank! how's that sound? If you want details of the Temple City gig, see the gig diary on my website... hope to see some of you there... Steve web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" - Bruce Cockburn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 13:55:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23601; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:53:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:53:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Zoom PS02 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:49:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8E8.41F9E090" Resent-Message-ID: <8JawvB.A.bwF.5F5L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8E8.41F9E090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I had one, just sold it. I like it a lot, but I really don't need a scratch pad. The Vo-jam was my favorite effects...it was best described as a multi tap repeating echo. The ps02 was a great headphone effect/mixer thing to use while playing and singing acoustically - drums, guitar, piano. It was surreal actually. But I found no use for it as a multitracker. Now when they make one (PS-mp3) that rips mp3s instantly then I'm back in the game because to me that would be very convient, as well as featured packed. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stahl [SMTP:alex@pixar.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:48 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Zoom PS02 Hi Loopists, Has anyone played with the Zoom PS02 pocket portastudio thingy? I've often wished I had a scratchpad recorder in my bag for jotting down melodic ideas. The effects listing for this unit (see http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/models/PS02/pdmodel.html ) includes the following tease: VO-JAM Good for sound-on-sound with long delay If anyone knows how long the delay is, or has other comments, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Sorry if this has been covered already. -Alex Stahl ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8E8.41F9E090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Zoom PS02

I  had one, just sold it. I like = it a lot, but I really don't need a scratch pad. The Vo-jam was my = favorite effects...it was best described as a multi tap repeating echo. =

The ps02 was a great headphone = effect/mixer thing to use while playing and singing acoustically - = drums, guitar, piano. It was surreal actually. But I found no use for = it as a multitracker.

Now when they make one (PS-mp3) that rips mp3s instantly then I'm back in the game = because to me that would be very convient, as well as featured = packed.

    -----Original = Message-----
    From:   Alex Stahl = [SMTP:alex@pixar.com]
    Sent:   Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:48 AM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject:       = Zoom PS02

    Hi Loopists,

    Has anyone played with the Zoom = PS02 pocket portastudio thingy? I've
    often wished I had a scratchpad = recorder in my bag for jotting down
    melodic ideas. The effects = listing for this unit (see
    http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/models/PS02/pdmodel.html= ) includes the
    following tease:

    VO-JAM Good for sound-on-sound = with long delay

    If anyone knows how long the = delay is, or has other comments, I'd
    appreciate hearing from you. = Sorry if this has been covered already.

    -Alex Stahl

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8E8.41F9E090-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 14:03:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25066; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:01:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:01:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2F9468.1175E4E0@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:07:50 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: House gig in LA... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Steve Lawson wrote: > >>>tho' it's not at my house, but a space i lease for work. it'll eventually > be another research lab, but it's pretty empty right now. it's about 500 > square feet. it's on the second floor of a building that's entirely > vacant in the evenings, so it'd be cool for music. it's also in downtown, > burbank, so it's convenient. it's available for anyone who'd like to put > on a small show, or just come over and jam. i also have some recording > gear there :-)<<< > > this definitely sounds like fun - i'm up for playing. > > we'll sort out the details off-list and get back to y'all... :o) > > Steve > www.steve-lawson.co.uk i'd love to at least attend, if not contribute some noise, but alas, i'll be up to my ears in blood-thirsty northern california mosquitos by then. good sounds, y'all, and HAVE FUN!! maybe next time... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 14:03:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25079; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:02:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:02:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010619110112.02124220@mulder.intermag.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.midiwall.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:01:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Fwd: [AHOT] Musicians Friend Electrix update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From another list I'm on... Mark >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:18:01 -0700 (PDT) >From: William Adams >Subject: [AHOT] Musicians Friend Electrix update > >They FINALLY got the shipment that was due on 6/10 and >shipped my order last night! > >Just thought I'd give a heads up to any of you who had >ordered that magical Friday and haven't recieved a >ship confirmation yet. > >Sweetness... >-Willis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 14:04:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25078; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:01:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:01:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB362@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" Subject: so cal, usa, gig spamage/ l.a. (22 june) and santa barbara (23 j une) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:50:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8E8.42F3F800" Resent-Message-ID: <7oSIa.A.JHG.4N5L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8E8.42F3F800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dear loopologists,=20 some gigs i'm involved with. the ear jam thing in l.a. seems = interesting in terms of its smorgasbord of l.a. new music qualities. seems like a = pretty cool deal. i've included their press release and schedule at the bottom = of the page Friday June 22, 2001, 8-11 pm (we're in the second half) homler-liebig duo anna homler: voice, toys, percussion steuart liebig: basses, applied tools and technology/loopage Side Street LIVE 425 S. Main St. 2nd floor, downtown L.A. TICKETS: $10/ per night; $18 for both nights, $7/per night students. Reservations recommended. Call (213) 620-8895. Parking ($3) available in the building at 425 S. Main St. Saturday EUR June 23, 2001 EUR 8:30 pm Espresso Roma, 728 State St., Santa Barbara 805.962.4721 EUR Free Admission jeffKAISERtrumpet, electronics/loopage g.e.STINSONguitar, electronics/loopage steuartLIEBIGbass, electronics/loopage EARJAM II press release. what: EARJAM II an all-star two night music and sound performance festival featuring 25 LA solo artists and groups. when: Friday June 22, 2001 8-11 pm Saturday June 23, 2001. 8-12 Midnight where: Side Street LIVE 425 S. Main St. 2nd floor, downtown L.A. TICKETS: $10/ per night; $18 for both nights, $7/per night students. Reservations recommended. Call (213) 620-8895. Parking ($3) available in the building at 425 S. Main = St. Be prepared to sample the sounds of LA=EDs leading aural innovators -- from free jazz to experimental funk, from microtonal ambiences to world beat rhythms, from accoustic/ electronic hybrids, to hand-made instruments to computer-driven wireless ones, from classically-based vocals to out-of-this world vocalese. Hear the latest work from some of your favorites, those whose work is well-known, and others you have never encountered before. And most of all -- the surprises that happen when they jam together. Friday night will focus on bands, performative groups, and vocalists, with Non Credo (Joe Berardi & Kira Vollman), Ulysses Jenkins=ED OtherVisions Band, The Emily Hay Collective (Michael Intriere, Emily Hay, BradDutz, and Sara Schoenbeck), Anna Homler and Steuart Liebig, Josie Roth, The Dark Bob & Carey Fosse, Vanessa Paloma, International Metal Supply (Jean Pierre Bedoyan & Paul Cutler), Scot Ray & Michael Vlatkovich, Andrew Bucksbarg, Julie Adler, and Linda Albertano. Saturday night will emphasize soloists, duets, accoustic instrumentals, improvization, and big group jams with David Ornette Cherry with = Stephen 'Breeze' Smith, Vinny Golia, Bruce Fowler, Jim McAuley, Mike Fink, Lynn Johnston=EDs Double Duo ( Peter Chan, Noah Phillips, Jeremy Drake), Ron George, Ellen Burr, Sara Schoenbeck & Harris Eisenstadt, Fawntice McCain, Susan Rawcliffe, Nina Sun Eidsheim & Ronit Kirchman, Petra = Haden and George Sarah. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8E8.42F3F800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so cal, usa, gig spamage/ l.a. (22 june) and santa barbara (23 = june)

dear loopologists,

some gigs i'm involved with. the ear jam thing in = l.a. seems interesting in terms of its smorgasbord of l.a. new music = qualities. seems like a pretty cool deal. i've included their press = release and schedule at the bottom of the page


Friday June 22, 2001,  8-11 pm (we're in the = second half)
homler-liebig duo
anna homler: voice, toys, percussion
steuart liebig: basses, applied tools and = technology/loopage


Side Street LIVE
425 S. Main St.  2nd floor, downtown = L.A.
TICKETS: $10/ per night; $18 for both nights,
 $7/per night students.
Reservations recommended.
Call (213) 620-8895.
Parking ($3) available in the building at 425 S. = Main St.




Saturday € June 23, 2001 € 8:30 pm
Espresso Roma, 728 State St., Santa Barbara
805.962.4721 € Free Admission

jeffKAISERtrumpet, electronics/loopage
g.e.STINSONguitar, electronics/loopage
steuartLIEBIGbass, electronics/loopage




EARJAM II press release.

what:     EARJAM II
          &nb= sp;   an all-star two night music and sound = performance
          &nb= sp;   festival featuring 25 LA solo artists and = groups.

when:    Friday June 22, = 2001       8-11 pm
          = Saturday June 23, 2001.  8-12 Midnight

where:   Side Street LIVE
          &nb= sp;    425 S. Main St.  2nd floor, downtown = L.A.
          &nb= sp;    TICKETS: $10/ per night; $18 for both = nights,
          &nb= sp;    $7/per night students.
          &nb= sp;    Reservations recommended.
          &nb= sp;    Call (213) 620-8895.
          &nb= sp;    Parking ($3) available in the building at 425 S. = Main St.



Be prepared to sample the sounds of LA=EDs leading = aural innovators --
from free jazz to experimental funk, from microtonal = ambiences to world
beat rhythms, from accoustic/ electronic hybrids, to = hand-made
instruments to computer-driven wireless ones, from = classically-based
vocals to out-of-this world vocalese. Hear the = latest work from some of
your favorites, those whose work is well-known, and = others you have
never encountered before. And most of all -- the = surprises that happen
when they jam together.

Friday night will focus on bands, performative = groups, and vocalists,
with Non Credo (Joe Berardi & Kira Vollman), = Ulysses Jenkins=ED
OtherVisions Band, The Emily Hay Collective (Michael = Intriere, Emily
Hay, BradDutz, and Sara Schoenbeck), Anna Homler and = Steuart Liebig,
Josie Roth, The Dark Bob & Carey Fosse, Vanessa = Paloma, International
Metal Supply (Jean Pierre Bedoyan & Paul = Cutler), Scot Ray & Michael
Vlatkovich, Andrew Bucksbarg, Julie Adler, and Linda = Albertano.


Saturday night will emphasize soloists, duets, = accoustic instrumentals,
improvization, and big group jams with David Ornette = Cherry with Stephen
'Breeze' Smith, Vinny Golia, Bruce Fowler, Jim = McAuley, Mike Fink, Lynn
Johnston=EDs Double Duo ( Peter Chan, Noah Phillips, = Jeremy Drake), Ron
George, Ellen Burr, Sara Schoenbeck & Harris = Eisenstadt, Fawntice
McCain, Susan Rawcliffe, Nina Sun Eidsheim & = Ronit Kirchman, Petra Haden
and George Sarah.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8E8.42F3F800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 14:07:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25389; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:05:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:05:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Zoom PS02 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:02:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8EA.009C4190" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8EA.009C4190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just wanted to add that, after reading my sent thread, I'm very ashamed of my grammar and spelling skills. Sorry. TQ I had one, just sold it. I like it a lot, but I really don't need a scratch pad. The Vo-jam was my favorite effects...it was best described as a multi tap repeating echo. The ps02 was a great headphone effect/mixer thing to use while playing and singing acoustically - drums, guitar, piano. It was surreal actually. But I found no use for it as a multitracker. Now when they make one (PS-mp3) that rips mp3s instantly then I'm back in the game because to me that would be very convient, as well as featured packed. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stahl [SMTP:alex@pixar.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:48 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Zoom PS02 Hi Loopists, Has anyone played with the Zoom PS02 pocket portastudio thingy? I've often wished I had a scratchpad recorder in my bag for jotting down melodic ideas. The effects listing for this unit (see http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/models/PS02/pdmodel.html ) includes the following tease: VO-JAM Good for sound-on-sound with long delay If anyone knows how long the delay is, or has other comments, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Sorry if this has been covered already. -Alex Stahl ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8EA.009C4190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Zoom PS02

I just wanted to add that, after = reading my sent thread, I'm very ashamed of my grammar and spelling = skills. Sorry.

TQ

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8EA.009C4190-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 14:10:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25669; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:09:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:09:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: tri.tran@baesystems.com Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:08:35 -0500 Subject: RE: [AHOT] Musicians Friend Electrix update To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8EA.DB8276D0" Resent-Message-ID: <5S0g_C.A.sQG.pU5L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8EA.DB8276D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Same here. I called them yesterday and they confirmed that my order had been processed and shipped. I also received an email from them. They also told me that it took a little long in getting it shipped as they are consolidating their warehouse (3 locations). -----Original Message----- From: Mark Pulver [mailto:mark@redmoon-music.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 1:02 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Fwd: [AHOT] Musicians Friend Electrix update From another list I'm on... Mark >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:18:01 -0700 (PDT) >From: William Adams >Subject: [AHOT] Musicians Friend Electrix update > >They FINALLY got the shipment that was due on 6/10 and >shipped my order last night! > >Just thought I'd give a heads up to any of you who had >ordered that magical Friday and haven't recieved a >ship confirmation yet. > >Sweetness... >-Willis ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8EA.DB8276D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [AHOT] Musicians Friend Electrix update

Same here.  I called them yesterday and they = confirmed that my order had been processed and shipped.  I also = received an email from them.  They also told me that it took a = little long in getting it shipped as they are consolidating their = warehouse (3 locations).


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pulver [mailto:mark@redmoon-music.com= ]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 1:02 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Fwd: [AHOT] Musicians Friend Electrix = update



 From another list I'm on...

Mark

 >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:18:01 -0700 = (PDT)
 >From: William Adams
 >Subject: [AHOT] Musicians Friend Electrix = update
 >
 >They FINALLY got the shipment that was due = on 6/10 and
 >shipped my order last night!
 >
 >Just thought I'd give a heads up to any of = you who had
 >ordered that magical Friday and haven't = recieved a
 >ship confirmation yet.
 >
 >Sweetness...
 >-Willis

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F8EA.DB8276D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 14:17:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25829; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:15:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:15:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:21:27 -0500 From: Mike Subject: Re: buying a headrush online? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <3B2F9826.2F54E0D5@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I ordered one from Musician's Friend in April and finally cancelled it last week after delay upon delay. (physical, not audio). I found a boomerang on e-bay instead for a little more money but looks like more features. Mike Killian shaw-han liem wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know of an online store that has the Akai headrush in stock? All > the usual suspects seem to be out.. > > any help appreciated, > > shaw-han > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 14:24:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26054; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:22:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:22:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.200.129.67] Reply-To: jon.wagner@stanfordalumni.org From: "Jon Wagner" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: drums and tuba Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:20:41 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2001 18:20:41.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C2AF650:01C0F8EC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > >Im curious to know how many drummers are on this list > > who do the same with looped based music and have successfully merged >their > > live approach to both arts... > >I'm a looping drummer. > I'm a loopy drummer. Jon Wagner _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 14:52:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26746; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:51:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:51:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: RE: LA date with Steve Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:49:26 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01c501c0f8e1$5ea86c40$222df7c2@zetnet.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <8T1MmD.A.bhG.365L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tony said that was his bachelor week, so Thursday evening the 28th sounds like a good one for him. I could do that night. What say you, loopers of LA? Gary -----Original Message----- From: Steve Lawson I've just had a gig booked in Temple City on Tuesday 26th ( a week today) - so I'd suggest Thursday for the loop fest gig in Burbank! how's that sound? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 14:58:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27014; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:57:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:57:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002801c0f8f2$078366c0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: Subject: Re: LA date with Steve Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:59:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Damn, my friend has a gig that night- maybe he'll understand if I don't show up.... Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candace Meyer" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: RE: LA date with Steve > Tony said that was his bachelor week, so Thursday evening the 28th sounds > like a good one for him. I could do that night. What say you, loopers of > LA? > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Lawson > I've just had a gig booked in Temple City on Tuesday 26th ( a week today) - > so I'd suggest Thursday for the loop fest gig in > Burbank! > how's that sound? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 15:04:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28475; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:01:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:01:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010619190049.42751.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:00:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200106190050.RAA18227@proxy2.ba.best.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <5_X9F.A.p6G.iF6L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Allan, Would you believe....no electronics are needed? Just make a cone of silence: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/hightech/weekly/cubicle/010219/5081811.html bret --- Allan Hoeltje wrote: > Sorry if this seems too far off topic but I figured someone here > might know > about hearing aid technology. I will also throw in some loop > content. :-) > > Have you ever been in a loud restaurant and couldn't make out what > the > person sitting across from you was saying because the background > noise was > so loud? > > What I want is a "perception aid". It seems to me that DSP's are > good > enough that if combined with a couple good microphones you could > cancel out > the noise and enhance the nearby sound. Fit the electronics and mics > into a > battery powered, walkperson sized box, plug into it with head phones > (the > ear plug kind, like what some performers use on stage) and have > yourself a > "personal audio space". > > Anyone know if this is possible, or available? > > For looping or recording, it could be used as a pre-amp (a de-amp?) > in noisy > places. > > Always Curious, > > -Allan > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 15:11:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28674; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:09:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:09:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:13:01 -0700 Subject: Re: LA date with Steve Message-ID: <20010619.121301.262.4.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,8-9,11-18,20-47 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if anyone wants to just come by and jam or whatever. sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a bit worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as much space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us local la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? also, since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. any thoughts how to handle it? also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing to go direct, that may save some space. this is sounding fun! later, tony On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:59:40 -0700 "MediaOne" writes: > Damn, my friend has a gig that night- maybe he'll understand if I > don't show > up.... Cliff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Candace Meyer" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:49 AM > Subject: RE: LA date with Steve > > > > Tony said that was his bachelor week, so Thursday evening the 28th > sounds > > like a good one for him. I could do that night. What say you, > loopers of > > LA? > > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Lawson > > I've just had a gig booked in Temple City on Tuesday 26th ( a week > today) - > > so I'd suggest Thursday for the loop fest gig in > > Burbank! > > how's that sound? > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 15:43:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29369; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:39:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:39:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010619134355.007f6c30@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:43:55 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Personal Audio Space? In-Reply-To: <001801c0f862$df1ee040$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> References: <200106190050.RAA18227@proxy2.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tell me about it! EEEK! Goddess At 09:55 PM 6/18/01 -0400, you wrote: >I very recently have come to terms with tinitus..basically sitting in bed >and realizing that I cannot achieve silence. I spend time in both noisy and >quiet situations wearing earplugs to increase my tonal awareness. Also, >always wear them when you're doing dishes. Plate frequency hurts! >Jehn >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Allan Hoeltje" >To: "Loopers Delight" >Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:59 PM >Subject: OT: Personal Audio Space? > > >> Sorry if this seems too far off topic but I figured someone here might >know >> about hearing aid technology. I will also throw in some loop content. >:-) >> >> Have you ever been in a loud restaurant and couldn't make out what the >> person sitting across from you was saying because the background noise was >> so loud? >> >> What I want is a "perception aid". It seems to me that DSP's are good >> enough that if combined with a couple good microphones you could cancel >out >> the noise and enhance the nearby sound. Fit the electronics and mics into >a >> battery powered, walkperson sized box, plug into it with head phones (the >> ear plug kind, like what some performers use on stage) and have yourself a >> "personal audio space". >> >> Anyone know if this is possible, or available? >> >> For looping or recording, it could be used as a pre-amp (a de-amp?) in >noisy >> places. >> >> Always Curious, >> >> -Allan >> >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 15:48:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29644; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:46:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:46:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010619135056.007f5920@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:50:56 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: An L.A. house concert with Steve Lawson In-Reply-To: <009901c0f864$639fa9c0$2c44f93f@dnlsh01> References: <200106190100.VAA18477@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick, *laughing* -did ya type all that? -did ya type all that? -did ya type all that? -did ya type all that? -did ya type all that? -did ya type all that? -did ya- Woohoo, I'm either a looper or a four-year-old! lol! Smiles, G-Girl At 07:06 PM 6/18/01 -0700, you wrote: > Steuart wrote: ><<a performance there? i would really dig being able to do a set under the >redwoods...i >>> > >By being an obnoxious and persistent cheerleader for Live Looping!!! > >If you guys have a house concert with Steve Lawson, please, please get >two or three of you L.A. loopers on the bill and have >THE 1st LOS ANGELES LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL > > >I know I must sound like a broken record on this LOOPING FESTIVAL >business............but then again, if you think of it..............everyone >on this list rather enjoys the sound of a broken record: > >".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" >".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" >".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" >".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" >".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" >".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" >".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" >".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" >".................I went down to the crossroads...............click" > > >Rick > > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 15:55:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30001; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:53:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:53:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:53:49 +0100 Subject: Re: buying a headrush online? From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In loop mode neither unit has control over feedback since they are not acting as delays then. Using the DL-4 in delay mode gives you control over feedback and using the Headrush in loop mode gives you no control at all beyond stop/start and o/d. The only way I'd use my Headrush is on, line with the DL-4 so I could loop some of the delay stuff that the DL-4 does. As a standalone, simple loop device it's an ok unit but if you pay the extra for a DL-4 you will know where that extra money went. It's a far more flexible unit and the backwards/1/2 speed and reverse/autoswell features are the money on their own. Martin Shellard > From: David Myers > But you > should be aware that, unlike the Headrush, there is no control whatsoever > over delay feedback! > > David Lee Myers > http://www.pulsewidth.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 16:08:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31466; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:07:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:07:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <011501c0f8fb$56972680$f843f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106191803.OAA25200@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Looping Drummers? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:06:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I, too, am a looping drummer/percussionist (although I play a lot of other instruments as well). Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 16:16:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31647; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:15:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:15:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: eleon@pop.ripco.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:11:10 -0500 To: From: Eric Leonardson Subject: Friday, June 22 at the Nervous Center, Chicago Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 10:00 p.m., Eric Leonardson (Springboard, objects, loops, electronics) solo...Opening for Tiny Hairs, a six-piece instrumental collective whose improvised experimental compositions negotiate minimalism, noise, and pop. Don't worry, be audio... The Nervous Center, 4612 N. Lincoln Avenue (next to the Davis Theater); phone (773) 728-5010. --------------------- Upcoming Performances, Broadcasts, Etc.: Friday, June 22 at 10:00 pm Solo performance opening for Tiny Hairs . 4612 N. Lincoln Avenue (next to the Davis Theater). Phone (773) 728-5010. New on Compact Disc: Winter Construction (dceo003) A compilation of Chicago artists with accompanying zine featuring tracks by MORA, Kyle Bruckmann, Eric Leonardson/Yasuhiro Otani, Rosenberg Skronktet, Fred Lonberg-Holm, the Flying Luttenbachers, Ernst Karel/ Brent Gutzeit/ Jason Soliday, Lozenge, Metallux, TV Pow, and others... available on-line . Listen to the High Zero 2000 Documentation Site http://www.highzero.org/highzero2000documentation/index.htm More info on the web: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 16:29:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31979; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:27:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:27:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: eleon@pop.ripco.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003401c0f816$d02db800$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> References: <003401c0f816$d02db800$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:24:51 -0500 To: "Jehn" , From: Eric Leonardson Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1219140190==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1219140190==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi Jehn, I have an old black & white picture of me in my studio with on my "sound designer" page ... also a tangle of wires, Korg MS-20, thrift store phonograph, and an amplified spring and paint can (a precursor to the Springboard). Far removed from these squeaky clean rigs It's an old loft in the heart of the once cool, now trendy Wicker Park entertainment mecca. It's still large and dusty like it was in the 80s.... That's why I got a laugh from seeing the anti:clockwise tension headache studio finger. I can identify... I also own a malfunctioning Tascam 244 (owned since 1984) with hundreds of hours of stuff I was planning to use... Eric At 12:50 PM -0400 6/18/01, Jehn wrote: >Thank you..I was feeling intimidated by all of these squeeky clean >perfectly routed studios. My life is a tangle of 1/4" cords, and >still need to fix the 4trk to retrieve hundreds of hours of lo-fi >crap that I swore I was going to throw away after I went digital. >NEVER! > >Jehn > >----- Original Message ----- >From: anti:clockwise >To: >Loopers-Delight@loopers-de >light.com >Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:34 AM >Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 > > >for way too much info on the tension headache studio finger > >http://tensionheadache.org/tensionheadachestudio.htm > > > >Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > > ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like > > Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him > > paint his fence ;-) > >actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was >way the slacker, t.s. the huckster... > >a:c > >>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700 >>From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) >>To: "diatom drone" >>Cc: >>Subject: Re: home studios? >>Message-Id: >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to >> >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in >> >advance! >> > >> >jon >> >++++++++ >just what the world needs.... >another frikkin url --------------------- Upcoming Performances, Broadcasts, Etc.: Friday, June 22 at 10:00 pm Solo performance opening for Tiny Hairs . 4612 N. Lincoln Avenue (next to the Davis Theater). Phone (773) 728-5010. New on Compact Disc: Winter Construction (dceo003) A compilation of Chicago artists with accompanying zine featuring tracks by MORA, Kyle Bruckmann, Eric Leonardson/Yasuhiro Otani, Rosenberg Skronktet, Fred Lonberg-Holm, the Flying Luttenbachers, Ernst Karel/ Brent Gutzeit/ Jason Soliday, Lozenge, Metallux, TV Pow, and others... available on-line . Listen to the High Zero 2000 Documentation Site http://www.highzero.org/highzero2000documentation/index.htm More info on the web: --============_-1219140190==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jehn, I have an old black & white picture of me in my studio with on my "sound designer" page <... also a tangle of wires, Korg MS-20, thrift store phonograph, and an amplified spring and paint can (a precursor to the Springboard). Far removed from these squeaky clean rigs It's an old loft in the heart of the once cool, now trendy Wicker Park entertainment mecca. It's still large and dusty like it was in the 80s....=20 That's why I got a laugh from seeing the anti:clockwise tension headache studio finger. I can identify... I also own a malfunctioning Tascam 244 (owned since 1984) with hundreds of hours of stuff I was planning to use... Eric At 12:50 PM -0400 6/18/01, Jehn wrote: ArialThank you..I was feeling intimidated by all of these squeeky clean perfectly routed studios. My life is a tangle of 1/4" cords, and still need to fix the 4trk to retrieve hundreds of hours of lo-fi crap that I swore I was going to throw away after I went digital. NEVER! =20 Jehn right,left----- Original Message ----- From: <anti:clockwise To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #301 for way too much info on the tension headache studio finger http://tensionheadache.org/tensionheadachestudio.htm Rick Walker (loop.pool)" wrote: > ...Anyone interested in being considered for participation (I feel like > Huckleberry Finn trying to get people to pay him to let him > paint his fence ;-) actually, that was tom sawyer's gig... in that friendship finn was way the slacker, t.s. the huckster... a:c Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:34 -0700 =46rom: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) To: "diatom drone" < Cc: < Subject: Re: home studios? Message-Id: < Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" >does anybody have pictures of their home recording setup? i am trying to >make the most of a really small space and i could use some ideas. thanks in >advance! > >jon
++++++++ just what the world needs.... <another frikkin url
--------------------- Upcoming Performances, Broadcasts, Etc.: =46riday, June 22 at 10:00 pm Solo performance opening for Tiny Hairs <. 4612 N. Lincoln Avenue (next to the Davis Theater).= Phone (773) 728-5010. New on Compact Disc: Winter Construction (dceo003) A compilation of Chicago artists with accompanying zine featuring tracks by MORA, Kyle Bruckmann, Eric Leonardson/Yasuhiro Otani, Rosenberg Skronktet, Fred Lonberg-Holm, the Flying Luttenbachers, Ernst Karel/ Brent Gutzeit/ Jason Soliday, Lozenge, Metallux, TV Pow, and others... available on-line <. Listen to the High Zero 2000 Documentation Site http://www.highzero.org/highzero2000documentation/index.htm More info on the web: < --============_-1219140190==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 16:48:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32656; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:46:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:46:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010619144914.007caa10@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:49:14 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: LA Looping Fest In-Reply-To: <3B2ED2D0.3289C33F@altruistmusic.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jeez! I wish I was in LA, I'd love to get in on this! I wish you all the best on getting this going! Woohoo, sounds wonderful! Smiles, G-Girl At 09:19 PM 6/18/01 -0700, you wrote: >Wow, things moving quickly... > >OK, here are my thoughts for right now: > >-- In my opinion, the main reason to try and scramble to organize it >in the very near future is to accommodate Steve Lawson's schedule for >his being in town. The locals can always get something happening on >our own, on our own time... > >-- I think a semi-private/semi-public thing would be cool. In other >words, spread the word to personal acquaintances we know would be into >it, but don't try to go all out announcing the thing to the public at >large, especially if the lodgings are somewhat spartan. I'm sure word >of mouth could fill a 30-person space easily. > >-- A weeknight is a possibility as well... I could take some time out >during the day to help set things up logistically at the space, so >that a healthy chunk of evening time (say, 6:30 - 10:30 or so) could >be used strictly for performing, as opposed to set-up time. > >-- Sunday the 24th is out for me, at least from 7:30 PM on -- gotta >teach a geetar lesson that evening (I durn forgot). Could do it >earlier I suppose... Again, I can definitely sit this one out if need be. > >-- Depending on how an initial thing goes, this might be a good >precursor to trying to do something more serious, in a more public >environment (like the AlterKnit lounge at the Knitting Factory). The >"pre-release" version, if you will... > >I think we'd best wait for Mr. Lawson to chime in at this point...? >Any other would-be exhibitionists? > >--Andre > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 16:54:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00416; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:53:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:53:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:52:39 -0700 Subject: The first LA Loop Fest!!! From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if anyone wants to just come by and jam or whatever. sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a bit worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as much space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us local la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? also, since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. any thoughts how to handle it? also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing to go direct, that may save some space.<<< How about we go for three artists? I don't mind who else plays, though I have to say I've been wanting to hear Andre for ages, so pleeeeeeze play! :o) dough would be very nice indeed, though I'm happy to go by donation (I'll bring a hat) or do some deal where it's $5 to get in, but it gets you a token for $5 off the cost of my CD, so if you buy the album, you get in for free... :o) Whatever, I'm just looking forward to playing and hanging out! So we're booked - thursday, doors 7.30 for an 8 start? bring your own beer... how's all that sound? i'll put the word round if everyone's cool with that please CC me if you're replying to this as I'm on in digest mode and wanna get this sorted ASAP! you guys rock - let's do a loop fest! the spirit of Rick Walker looms large... LOL cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 16:59:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00672; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:58:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:58:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:58:14 -0700 Subject: Loop fest addendum From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com BTW, i'll play through my amp - it's cool though, it's an iddy biddy 1x10 combo, so doesn't take up much room... If anyone coming to the gig has a Lexicon MPX controller, feel free to bring it as I'll not have mine with me... Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 17:03:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01910; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:00:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:00:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00b601c0f902$364c6140$c8b99318@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Luden" To: "Allan Hoeltje" , "Loopers Delight" References: <200106190050.RAA18227@proxy2.ba.best.com> Subject: Re: Personal Audio Space? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:55:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've heard of a company in Cambridge, Ma. that is working on a device that will sample the surrounding noise and play it back 180 degrees out of phase. They claim that it will cancel out about 97% of the noise now and they are working on 100% which they claim is possible. I can't re- member the name of the company but I saw the article on Boston.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: OT: Personal Audio Space? > Sorry if this seems too far off topic but I figured someone here might know > about hearing aid technology. I will also throw in some loop content. :-) > > Have you ever been in a loud restaurant and couldn't make out what the > person sitting across from you was saying because the background noise was > so loud? > > What I want is a "perception aid". It seems to me that DSP's are good > enough that if combined with a couple good microphones you could cancel out > the noise and enhance the nearby sound. Fit the electronics and mics into a > battery powered, walkperson sized box, plug into it with head phones (the > ear plug kind, like what some performers use on stage) and have yourself a > "personal audio space". > > Anyone know if this is possible, or available? > > For looping or recording, it could be used as a pre-amp (a de-amp?) in noisy > places. > > Always Curious, > > -Allan > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 17:16:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02215; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:13:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:13:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a901c0f904$60099500$641028d5@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: "Stephen P. Goodman" , References: <00e401c0f853$90bdb660$0201a8c0@stephen> Subject: Re: Behringer, Slight Return Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:02:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sorry, you can't get away with that. Bush's insistence on scuppering this agreement is a travesty that affects us ALL. Gareth Kyoto 'accord' > is a smokescreen for diplomatic egg-throwing at the US in more than just a > few circles, and not just the reactionary right either. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 17:20:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02373; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:17:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:17:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:17:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Personal Audio Space? From: Doug Miller To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00b601c0f902$364c6140$c8b99318@ne.mediaone.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've read that this idea is being applied in canceling noise from automobile engines, a high tech muffler. > I've heard of a company in Cambridge, Ma. that is working on a device > that will sample the surrounding noise and play it back 180 degrees out > of phase. They claim that it will cancel out about 97% of the noise now > and they are working on 100% which they claim is possible. I can't re- > member the name of the company but I saw the article on Boston.com ------------------------- Doug Miller Graphic Designer http://www.dispatch.com http://www.cccn.org http://home.columbus.rr.com/dougmiller From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 17:47:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02968; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:45:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:45:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007c01c0f909$97625640$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: Subject: Re: Personal Audio Space? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:48:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This idea has been around for awhile- I think Senheiser or someone makes a 2 or $300 pair of headphones that work on this principal- I was interested actually- Los Angeles can hum a bit more than I like- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Miller" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Personal Audio Space? > I've read that this idea is being applied in canceling noise from automobile > engines, a high tech muffler. > > > I've heard of a company in Cambridge, Ma. that is working on a device > > that will sample the surrounding noise and play it back 180 degrees out > > of phase. They claim that it will cancel out about 97% of the noise now > > and they are working on 100% which they claim is possible. I can't re- > > member the name of the company but I saw the article on Boston.com > > ------------------------- > Doug Miller > Graphic Designer > http://www.dispatch.com > http://www.cccn.org > http://home.columbus.rr.com/dougmiller > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 17:47:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02977; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:46:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:46:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:41:42 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c0f908$a52fc600$91a1b2d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This sounds great--three loopers are plenty--Andre is in as far as I'm concerned--I will play unless someone more aggressive is in the mood to take the spot--maybe Tony would accompany me (not that we've played together before) Gary Lehmann -----Original Message----- From: Steve Lawson [mailto:steve@steve-lawson.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:53 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: The first LA Loop Fest!!! >>>yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if anyone wants to just come by and jam or whatever. sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a bit worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as much space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us local la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? also, since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. any thoughts how to handle it? also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing to go direct, that may save some space.<<< How about we go for three artists? I don't mind who else plays, though I have to say I've been wanting to hear Andre for ages, so pleeeeeeze play! :o) dough would be very nice indeed, though I'm happy to go by donation (I'll bring a hat) or do some deal where it's $5 to get in, but it gets you a token for $5 off the cost of my CD, so if you buy the album, you get in for free... :o) Whatever, I'm just looking forward to playing and hanging out! So we're booked - thursday, doors 7.30 for an 8 start? bring your own beer... how's all that sound? i'll put the word round if everyone's cool with that please CC me if you're replying to this as I'm on in digest mode and wanna get this sorted ASAP! you guys rock - let's do a loop fest! the spirit of Rick Walker looms large... LOL cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 17:47:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02967; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:45:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:45:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: steve@steve-lawson.co.uk Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:50:13 -0700 Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Message-ID: <20010619.145013.262.7.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-11,21-22,25-26,31-32,35-36,38-46,48-102 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com alright, here's the proposed time and locale: LA LOOP FESTE I Thursday, June 28, 2001 Doors open at 7pm 359 East Magnolia St Suite E Burbank, CA 91501 818-848-2057 Here's the stuff we need to figure out: We know for sure that Steve Lawson will be performing and possibly two additional loopers. I'd like to wave my spot as I just found out that east coast looper extradonnaire (sp?) Ric Hordinski (of Monk, Over The Rhine and has worked with Daniel Lanois, Bob Dylan, Squeeze, David Wilcox, Buddy Miller, and on and on and on) will be in town and is also interested in playing. If you're not familiar, check out his web page at http://monkmusic.com. So I'd love for Ric to perform as well. Steve suggested 3 loopers perform, and also suggested Andre? (Since we had several people interested in playing, me included, maybe we should schedule another Loop Feste?) It was also suggested that we either charge a nominal admission of say, $5 or we simply 'pass the hat'. Both Steve and Ric have to play for door or donation. I can supply the PA and a few chairs, but we could use some rugs, chairs, pillows, whatever to make it comfy. Also, you can bring your own refreshments for personal or share. Tho' since this isn't a club but a space I lease and I don't carry liability insurance or any such thing, I have to ask to refrain from alcohol and such. Oh, and since space is an issue at this locale, should have a reserve list or something? I'd hate for someone to not be able to get in, etc. Or do we even have to worry about it? If anyone has any ideas or anything, either reply on the list or you can pmail me at tony-moore@juno.com or you can call me at 818-563-6514. later! tony On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:52:39 -0700 Steve Lawson writes: > >>>yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if > anyone > wants to just come by and jam or whatever. > > sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a > bit > worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as > much > space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us > local > la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? also, > since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. > any > thoughts how to handle it? > > also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing > to go > direct, that may save some space.<<< > > How about we go for three artists? I don't mind who else plays, > though I > have to say I've been wanting to hear Andre for ages, so pleeeeeeze > play! > :o) > > dough would be very nice indeed, though I'm happy to go by donation > (I'll > bring a hat) or do some deal where it's $5 to get in, but it gets > you a > token for $5 off the cost of my CD, so if you buy the album, you get > in for > free... :o) Whatever, I'm just looking forward to playing and > hanging out! > > So we're booked - thursday, doors 7.30 for an 8 start? bring your > own > beer... > > how's all that sound? i'll put the word round if everyone's cool > with that > > please CC me if you're replying to this as I'm on in digest mode > and wanna > get this sorted ASAP! > > you guys rock - let's do a loop fest! the spirit of Rick Walker > looms > large... LOL > > cheers > > Steve > www.steve-lawson.co.uk > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 17:50:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03230; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:48:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:48:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Gambit184@aol.com Message-ID: <8c.84dff5b.2861229d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:48:13 EDT Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8c.84dff5b.2861229d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_8c.84dff5b.2861229d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unsubscribe Me Please Thank You --part1_8c.84dff5b.2861229d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unsubscribe Me Please

Thank You --part1_8c.84dff5b.2861229d_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 17:53:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03408; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:52:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:52:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2FC892.13168E61@fullcompass.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:48:02 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! References: <000001c0f908$a52fc600$91a1b2d1@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wow this sounds awesome!!! Im gonna check finances to see if can afford plane tix from WI. - Jim Candace Meyer wrote: > > This sounds great--three loopers are plenty--Andre is in as far as I'm > concerned--I will play unless someone more aggressive is in the mood to take > the spot--maybe Tony would accompany me (not that we've played together > before) > Gary Lehmann > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Lawson [mailto:steve@steve-lawson.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:53 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: The first LA Loop Fest!!! > > >>>yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if anyone > wants to just come by and jam or whatever. > > sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a bit > worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as much > space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us local > la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? also, > since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. any > thoughts how to handle it? > > also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing to go > direct, that may save some space.<<< > > How about we go for three artists? I don't mind who else plays, though I > have to say I've been wanting to hear Andre for ages, so pleeeeeeze play! > :o) > > dough would be very nice indeed, though I'm happy to go by donation (I'll > bring a hat) or do some deal where it's $5 to get in, but it gets you a > token for $5 off the cost of my CD, so if you buy the album, you get in for > free... :o) Whatever, I'm just looking forward to playing and hanging out! > > So we're booked - thursday, doors 7.30 for an 8 start? bring your own > beer... > > how's all that sound? i'll put the word round if everyone's cool with that > > please CC me if you're replying to this as I'm on in digest mode and wanna > get this sorted ASAP! > > you guys rock - let's do a loop fest! the spirit of Rick Walker looms > large... LOL > > cheers > > Steve > www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 17:55:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03538; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:53:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:53:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:53:24 -0700 Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! From: Steve Lawson To: Tony Moore , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010619.145013.262.7.tony-moore@juno.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com that all sounds great - Ric Hordiski rocks! Over the Rhine are a fabulous band. so if Andre's up for it, we have a line up, a venue, a time. We're on! Also just in - I've got two nights at Jazz and Java in Redlands on Friday and Saturday Steve > From: Tony Moore > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:50:13 -0700 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Cc: steve@steve-lawson.co.uk > Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! > > alright, here's the proposed time and locale: > > LA LOOP FESTE I > Thursday, June 28, 2001 > Doors open at 7pm > 359 East Magnolia St > Suite E > Burbank, CA 91501 > 818-848-2057 > > Here's the stuff we need to figure out: > > We know for sure that Steve Lawson will be performing and possibly two > additional loopers. I'd like to wave my spot as I just found out that > east coast looper extradonnaire (sp?) Ric Hordinski (of Monk, Over The > Rhine and has worked with Daniel Lanois, Bob Dylan, Squeeze, David > Wilcox, Buddy Miller, and on and on and on) will be in town and is also > interested in playing. If you're not familiar, check out his web page at > http://monkmusic.com. So I'd love for Ric to perform as well. Steve > suggested 3 loopers perform, and also suggested Andre? (Since we had > several people interested in playing, me included, maybe we should > schedule another Loop Feste?) > > It was also suggested that we either charge a nominal admission of say, > $5 or we simply 'pass the hat'. Both Steve and Ric have to play for door > or donation. > > I can supply the PA and a few chairs, but we could use some rugs, chairs, > pillows, whatever to make it comfy. Also, you can bring your own > refreshments for personal or share. Tho' since this isn't a club but a > space I lease and I don't carry liability insurance or any such thing, I > have to ask to refrain from alcohol and such. > > Oh, and since space is an issue at this locale, should have a reserve > list or something? I'd hate for someone to not be able to get in, etc. Or > do we even have to worry about it? > > If anyone has any ideas or anything, either reply on the list or you can > pmail me at tony-moore@juno.com or you can call me at 818-563-6514. > > later! > > tony > > > > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:52:39 -0700 Steve Lawson > writes: >>>>> yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if >> anyone >> wants to just come by and jam or whatever. >> >> sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a >> bit >> worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as >> much >> space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us >> local >> la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? also, >> since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. >> any >> thoughts how to handle it? >> >> also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing >> to go >> direct, that may save some space.<<< >> >> How about we go for three artists? I don't mind who else plays, >> though I >> have to say I've been wanting to hear Andre for ages, so pleeeeeeze >> play! >> :o) >> >> dough would be very nice indeed, though I'm happy to go by donation >> (I'll >> bring a hat) or do some deal where it's $5 to get in, but it gets >> you a >> token for $5 off the cost of my CD, so if you buy the album, you get >> in for >> free... :o) Whatever, I'm just looking forward to playing and >> hanging out! >> >> So we're booked - thursday, doors 7.30 for an 8 start? bring your >> own >> beer... >> >> how's all that sound? i'll put the word round if everyone's cool >> with that >> >> please CC me if you're replying to this as I'm on in digest mode >> and wanna >> get this sorted ASAP! >> >> you guys rock - let's do a loop fest! the spirit of Rick Walker >> looms >> large... LOL >> >> cheers >> >> Steve >> www.steve-lawson.co.uk >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:00:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04794; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:59:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:59:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:03:57 -0700 Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Message-ID: <20010619.150358.262.8.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-5,7-133 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: <7SLsX.A.sKB.ss8L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i meant to say that both steve and ric have said they'll play for the door or donation. oops! i didn't mean that to be a command, like i could even do that :-) tony On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:50:13 -0700 Tony Moore writes: > alright, here's the proposed time and locale: > > LA LOOP FESTE I > Thursday, June 28, 2001 > Doors open at 7pm > 359 East Magnolia St > Suite E > Burbank, CA 91501 > 818-848-2057 > > Here's the stuff we need to figure out: > > We know for sure that Steve Lawson will be performing and possibly > two > additional loopers. I'd like to wave my spot as I just found out > that > east coast looper extradonnaire (sp?) Ric Hordinski (of Monk, Over > The > Rhine and has worked with Daniel Lanois, Bob Dylan, Squeeze, David > Wilcox, Buddy Miller, and on and on and on) will be in town and is > also > interested in playing. If you're not familiar, check out his web > page at > http://monkmusic.com. So I'd love for Ric to perform as well. Steve > suggested 3 loopers perform, and also suggested Andre? (Since we had > several people interested in playing, me included, maybe we should > schedule another Loop Feste?) > > It was also suggested that we either charge a nominal admission of > say, > $5 or we simply 'pass the hat'. Both Steve and Ric have to play for > door > or donation. > > I can supply the PA and a few chairs, but we could use some rugs, > chairs, > pillows, whatever to make it comfy. Also, you can bring your own > refreshments for personal or share. Tho' since this isn't a club but > a > space I lease and I don't carry liability insurance or any such > thing, I > have to ask to refrain from alcohol and such. > > Oh, and since space is an issue at this locale, should have a > reserve > list or something? I'd hate for someone to not be able to get in, > etc. Or > do we even have to worry about it? > > If anyone has any ideas or anything, either reply on the list or you > can > pmail me at tony-moore@juno.com or you can call me at 818-563-6514. > > later! > > tony > > > > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:52:39 -0700 Steve Lawson > writes: > > >>>yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if > > > anyone > > wants to just come by and jam or whatever. > > > > sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a > > > bit > > worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as > > much > > space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us > > > local > > la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? > also, > > since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. > > > any > > thoughts how to handle it? > > > > also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing > > > to go > > direct, that may save some space.<<< > > > > How about we go for three artists? I don't mind who else plays, > > though I > > have to say I've been wanting to hear Andre for ages, so > pleeeeeeze > > play! > > :o) > > > > dough would be very nice indeed, though I'm happy to go by > donation > > (I'll > > bring a hat) or do some deal where it's $5 to get in, but it gets > > you a > > token for $5 off the cost of my CD, so if you buy the album, you > get > > in for > > free... :o) Whatever, I'm just looking forward to playing and > > hanging out! > > > > So we're booked - thursday, doors 7.30 for an 8 start? bring your > > own > > beer... > > > > how's all that sound? i'll put the word round if everyone's cool > > with that > > > > please CC me if you're replying to this as I'm on in digest mode > > and wanna > > get this sorted ASAP! > > > > you guys rock - let's do a loop fest! the spirit of Rick Walker > > looms > > large... LOL > > > > cheers > > > > Steve > > www.steve-lawson.co.uk > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:04:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04924; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:02:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:02:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:00:50 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2001 22:00:51.0154 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DCBEB20:01C0F90B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sounds terrific. Sign me up for any "reserve list" >From: Tony Moore >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >CC: steve@steve-lawson.co.uk >Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:50:13 -0700 > >alright, here's the proposed time and locale: > >LA LOOP FESTE I >Thursday, June 28, 2001 >Doors open at 7pm >359 East Magnolia St >Suite E >Burbank, CA 91501 >818-848-2057 > >Here's the stuff we need to figure out: > >We know for sure that Steve Lawson will be performing and possibly two >additional loopers. I'd like to wave my spot as I just found out that >east coast looper extradonnaire (sp?) Ric Hordinski (of Monk, Over The >Rhine and has worked with Daniel Lanois, Bob Dylan, Squeeze, David >Wilcox, Buddy Miller, and on and on and on) will be in town and is also >interested in playing. If you're not familiar, check out his web page at >http://monkmusic.com. So I'd love for Ric to perform as well. Steve >suggested 3 loopers perform, and also suggested Andre? (Since we had >several people interested in playing, me included, maybe we should >schedule another Loop Feste?) > >It was also suggested that we either charge a nominal admission of say, >$5 or we simply 'pass the hat'. Both Steve and Ric have to play for door >or donation. > >I can supply the PA and a few chairs, but we could use some rugs, chairs, >pillows, whatever to make it comfy. Also, you can bring your own >refreshments for personal or share. Tho' since this isn't a club but a >space I lease and I don't carry liability insurance or any such thing, I >have to ask to refrain from alcohol and such. > >Oh, and since space is an issue at this locale, should have a reserve >list or something? I'd hate for someone to not be able to get in, etc. Or >do we even have to worry about it? > >If anyone has any ideas or anything, either reply on the list or you can >pmail me at tony-moore@juno.com or you can call me at 818-563-6514. > >later! > >tony > > > > >On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:52:39 -0700 Steve Lawson > writes: > > >>>yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if > > anyone > > wants to just come by and jam or whatever. > > > > sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a > > bit > > worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as > > much > > space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us > > local > > la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? also, > > since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. > > any > > thoughts how to handle it? > > > > also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing > > to go > > direct, that may save some space.<<< > > > > How about we go for three artists? I don't mind who else plays, > > though I > > have to say I've been wanting to hear Andre for ages, so pleeeeeeze > > play! > > :o) > > > > dough would be very nice indeed, though I'm happy to go by donation > > (I'll > > bring a hat) or do some deal where it's $5 to get in, but it gets > > you a > > token for $5 off the cost of my CD, so if you buy the album, you get > > in for > > free... :o) Whatever, I'm just looking forward to playing and > > hanging out! > > > > So we're booked - thursday, doors 7.30 for an 8 start? bring your > > own > > beer... > > > > how's all that sound? i'll put the word round if everyone's cool > > with that > > > > please CC me if you're replying to this as I'm on in digest mode > > and wanna > > get this sorted ASAP! > > > > you guys rock - let's do a loop fest! the spirit of Rick Walker > > looms > > large... LOL > > > > cheers > > > > Steve > > www.steve-lawson.co.uk > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:11:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05116; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:09:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:09:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106192207.PAA00405@proxy2.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:15:56 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thank you all for the helpful replies. Well, most were helpful. The Cone of Silence idea is not my first choice for solving this problem! (I am old enough to remember Get Smart!) And I've been to the Exploratorium and sat in one of those chairs - it is uncanny how good it works but would be hard to tote around in public. Someone said they thought the delay induced by the electronics would be uncomfortable. I tend to think this would not be a problem. Look at some of those digital effects in your racks - they all have DA and AD converters and a lot of processing going on in the DSPs. They work just fine in real time, at least mine do. One more question - what are the standard terms for describing microphones? I seem to recall that one particular kind was good at picking up very close sounds and another good at picking up generally everything nearby and far away. Thanks! -Allan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:11:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05158; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:09:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:09:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: GRStrings@aol.com Message-ID: <99.16818c5b.2861276b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:08:43 EDT Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_99.16818c5b.2861276b_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_99.16818c5b.2861276b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit UNSUBCRIBE --part1_99.16818c5b.2861276b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit UNSUBCRIBE --part1_99.16818c5b.2861276b_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:13:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05413; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:12:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:12:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:12:22 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am willing to relinquish my spot as performer and take an observer's position. Gary Lehmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:18:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05616; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:17:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:17:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:16:31 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010619.145013.262.7.tony-moore@juno.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Oh, and I'll bring some chairs. Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:19:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05575; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:15:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:15:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2FCDE3.2C933869@fullcompass.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:10:43 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just wanna get there!! Candace Meyer wrote: > > I am willing to relinquish my spot as performer and take an observer's > position. > Gary Lehmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:23:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05838; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:21:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:21:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <029001c0f90e$4e0ce460$f843f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106192153.RAA03493@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: 1st L.A. LOOPFEST Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:22:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey L.A. Loopers, Will someone bring a minidisc player and record off of the 'tape out's of Tony's Mackie. We should preserve this for posterity's sake!! Wish I could make it. The best of luck to you all. Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:30:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06015; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:29:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:29:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <04e201c0f90f$9ad43cc0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: Subject: fixing reel-to-reels? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:31:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My dad got a new stereo so he's given me permission to go into vulture mode and pick over the remains of his old system (which for the most part has been moved between houses but barely used) to use as possible studio components. As this system is older than I am, his amp has tubes (glee) but the output is a bit scrapy until the volume is cranked to a certain level. Thanks to past posts, I'm aware that it might just be a worn out pot, and thus might be able to fix that easily. The main issue though is his old Sony tape deck (TC-336 is the model). The controls seem to be in order, the LEDs work etc. The only thing that seems amiss is that reels won't move when the directional control is engaged. Could this be a belt issue? I've taken apart a few cassette players for parts but I've never worked on a reel-to-reel. I definitely don't want to screw it up, but there's not anywhere around here that could likely fix it. It seems to be a really nice deck, and I'd hate for it to just get scrapped, especially with the possibility of using it as part of a mastering chain. As always any and all insight is much appreciated! Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 18:38:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06177; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:37:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:37:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:40:54 -0700 Subject: Re: 1st L.A. LOOPFEST Message-ID: <20010619.154055.262.10.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-9,11-23 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com already done rick! i have a portable md recorder, a deck md recorder, an 8 track md recorder (yamaha md8), a dat recorder, and an 8 track cassette recorder (tascam 688) all there ready to run! oh, and i was planning on mixing in a stereo pair of oktava small diaphragm condensor mics as an alternate mix too. can anyone bring a camcorder or such? tony On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:22:19 -0700 "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" writes: > Hey L.A. Loopers, > > Will someone bring a minidisc player and record off of the 'tape > out's of > Tony's Mackie. > > We should preserve this for posterity's sake!! > > Wish I could make it. The best of luck to you all. > > Rick Walker (loop.pool) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 19:01:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06528; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:48:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:48:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB36E@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:47:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F911.C6712D00" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F911.C6712D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" oh no ya don't! it's time to ante up baby! (just joking about that long-ago thread) stig -----Original Message----- From: Candace Meyer [mailto:healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!! 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oh no ya don't! it's time to ante up baby!

(just joking about that long-ago thread)

stig

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From: Candace Meyer [mailto:healthquestrec= ruiter@earthlink.net]
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I am willing to relinquish my spot as performer and = take an observer's
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Gary Lehmann

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F911.C6712D00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 19:03:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07974; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:01:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:01:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010619170439.0093d980@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:04:39 -0600 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: OT: Fwd: tactile research from the New Scientist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <5myuu.A.S7B.Km9L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I know this is kind of off topic, but I found this incredibly interesting for a few reasons. One, I'm blind, and have flown, but also, because I'm a musician, and the article touches on some musical applications of the technology. I think it would be intriguing to posit a guess about how complex textural sounds might be recreated. anyway, hope you enjoy it. Smiles, G-Girl X-Authentication-Warning: icomm.ca: Host mta03.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.83] claimed to be mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au >From: "Steve Pattison" >To: "VIP L" >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:06:02 +1000 >X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2350) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) >Subject: Fwd: tactile research from the New Scientist >Sender: owner-access-l@icomm.ca >Reply-To: access-l@icomm.ca > >From: Kennedy, Bud Bud.Kennedy@ALCOA.COM >To: VICUG-L@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU > >FEATURES: p30 02 >Jun >01 > #45 Simply sensational > Sometimes you need a push in the right direction. Mark >Schrope > tries on a second skin that tells you exactly what to do > > Mark Schrope (Mark Schrope is a science writer based in Florida) > > FOR ANGUS RUPERT, the inspiration came during an impulsive nude >skydive. 'As I was making that jump I realised that there's a lot >of information that can be conveyed through the sense of touch,' >he says. As a result, Rupert, a flight surgeon for NASA and the >US Navy, has produced the world's first tactile flight suit. He >hopes it will help avoid the myriad accidents caused by pilots >becoming disoriented. It's an astonishing innovation. Simply plug >your suit into the cockpit and you can fly a jet fighter >blindfold. > > The suit is just one of a growing number of applications being >developed to exploit our response to touch. Researchers have >shown that the skin's hotline to the brain - which is what allows >you to swat a biting mosquito without stopping to think about >your aim - can open up a range of possibilities. As well as >saving pilots and their aircraft, this instinctive reaction to >touch could soon be keeping you from crashing the family car, and >guiding you to your destination. Eventually, the skin may provide >a substitute for other, faulty senses, helping blind people to >find their way around and allowing deaf people to hear. > > Tapping the potential of the skin has taken nearly three decades >of research. The first indication that the skin had so much to >offer came in 1972 when two Princeton University psychologists >stumbled across the discovery that the sense of touch could be >tricked in the same way that an optical illusion can fool the >eyes. Frank Geldard and Carl Sherrick were trying to figure out >how the brain interprets the sensation of something tapping on >your skin. They built an armband that held three vibrators made >from headphone speakers spaced down the forearm. The vibrators >were wired up to a signal generator, which was meant to give one >tap at each vibrator. But the wiring was wrong. Instead of a >single tap at each vibrator Geldard received five quick taps at >the wrist, then five more in the middle of his forearm, then five >more on his elbow. But he felt something completely different. He >could feel taps at points between the vibrators, and reported the >sensation of a tiny rabbit hopping up his arm. The illusion >became known as the 'cutaneous rabbit'. > > Geldard and Sherrick spent years exploring this and other aspects >of touch. But they remained largely alone in the field, and >progress has been slow. Worldwide, only about 100 people are >researching touch, compared with thousands looking into sight and >hearing. Roger Cholewiak, who now leads Geldard and Sherrick's >lab at Princeton, hopes that the tactile flight suit - and the >other emerging applications of touch - will change that. > > For the past five years, Cholewiak has been helping Rupert with >the development and trials of the suit at the Naval Air Station >at Pensacola, Florida. Cholewiak's expertise has helped Rupert >understand how the vibrators - also known as tactors - should be >arranged and triggered for maximum effect. > > Initially, they experimented with headphone speakers and pager >motors, but the prototype flight suit now uses pneumatic tactors >driven by an air pulse sent down a thin tube. These give a more >powerful vibration than the electrically driven vibrators, and >are less hazardous than plugging a pilot into an electrical >source. They are also much lighter - a crucial factor in >aviation. > > The suit has 32 pneumatic tactors, each about 1.5 centimetres in >diameter and a few millimetres thick. They are arranged all >around the torso, with a couple of centimetres between each >tactor. According to Cholewiak, this is about as close as they >can usefully be. 'The skin doesn't work well with high-density >vibrations,' he says. > > The tactors are driven by a small motor that pumps the bursts of >air according to the electronic output of the cockpit >instruments. In this way, the pilot can receive tactile >information on the aircraft's altitude, pitch, roll and airspeed. >But its main job is to tell up from down. 'Most of the pilots who >died in Desert Storm died because they didn't know which way was >up,' Cholewiak says. Thirty per cent of civil air crashes - >including, investigators believe, the one that killed John F. >Kennedy Jnr - have been attributed to spatial disorientation. > > Knowing where the ground is involves complex and, most >importantly, continuous inputs from our senses. Normally we use >our eyes and our vestibular system - the fluid-filled organs of >the inner ear that give us our sense of balance and orientation. >But in certain situations, these inputs can be misleading: pilots >can be convinced that they are level when in fact they are >plummeting towards the ground or - even more deceptive - the sea. > > Of course there are instruments in modern planes that give >information about orientation. But to read them requires >attention, something in short supply when you lose control in a >momentary burst of turbulence, or are flying a plane low over >bumpy terrain while dodging enemy fire. It doesn't even have to >be a stressful situation for things to go wrong. Hovering a >helicopter, for example, is an inherently difficult task. >Imperceptible movements that go unnoticed by the eyes, the >vestibular system and cockpit instruments can eventually lead to >disaster. When US President Jimmy Carter sent a mission in to >rescue American hostages from Iran in 1980, a hovering helicopter >scuppered the mission - and possibly Carter's chances of winning >a second term - by drifting slowly sideways into a troop carrier. > > Given a tactile suit to wear, however, even someone with no >cockpit experience can keep a hovering helicopter stock-still. >There's no need to interpret the information from cockpit >instruments: responding correctly to the suit's pulses and >vibrations is entirely natural. 'We've tried to make the tactile >display as intuitive as possible,' Cholewiak says. > > So, as the helicopter tilts forward, strong vibrations in the >front of the suit practically force you to pull the stick back. >Drifting to one side gives a vibration on one side of the suit. >Roll to the right, and the vibrations move from your waist >towards your armpit. Raise the nose too much, and there are >vibrations at the back of your neck. Your instinctive response to >each of these stimuli is the right one: every automatic response >corrects for unintentional movement. >Spine tingling > > The system is so effective at delivering information from the >cockpit's instruments that it allows military pilots to fly >blindfold after just a few minutes' training. They can even loop >the loop and know exactly when they ought to level out - during a >backward loop, the tactile suits send a quiver up a pilot's >spine, over the shoulders and then down the front to keep them >oriented. The suits can also warn pilots of approaching enemies: >a tap in the appropriate place on the body gives an instinctive >understanding of exactly which direction that enemy plane is >approaching from. > > Richard Healing, director of the US Navy's Office of Safety and >Survivability, is impressed by the suit's power. 'My sense is >that it's going to be a very valuable tool,' he says. If all goes >well, Healing believes that a tactile display could become >standard equipment in some planes within 5 years. > > Other applications of tactile suits are also on their way. >Military divers are trying out their own version of tactile >sensors that will enable them to navigate and communicate in >pitch-black seas. And tactile displays are even making their way >into space. Hong Tan, an engineering researcher at Purdue >University in Indiana, leads a research group that has already >tested tactile displays on board NASA's 'vomit comet', a plane >that flies in an arcing trajectory to give about thirty seconds >of microgravity. Eventually, Tan hopes to have tactile displays >incorporated into the suits worn by NASA astronauts. This would >help deal with the disorientation experienced on space walks. > > But Tan's other work, which she started at the Massachusetts >Institute for Technology's Media Lab, will have more >down-to-earth applications. Nissan and Honda are helping Tan's >team at Purdue to develop tactile displays for their cars and >trucks. Such displays could be connected to close-range radar >systems to give a punchy warning to drivers when something is too >close. If a child runs out in front of the car, for instance, or >you just get too close to the car in front at high speed, you >could get a sharp tap on the chest from a tactor within your >seatbelt. If something is too close to the side of the car, the >tap would be to that side, perhaps from a tactor on one side of >the lapbelt. A similar system could warn truckers reversing blind >that they are about to hit something. Tan's research has shown >that reaction times can be halved when tactile information >replaces straight visual stimuli - an improvement that could save >lives. > > Tan has also used the cutaneous rabbit to make in-car navigation >systems safer. An array of tactors - modified Walkman headphone >speakers - mounted in the seat back can create the illusion of a >line moving across the driver's back in any direction, telling >them when and which way to turn. Like the tactile flight suit, >this can be used without training: it's entirely instinctive. >'You don't have to think about left or right,' Tan says. 'The >signal is already mapped to the body's coordinate system.' > > Using the rabbit illusion also means that you need less hardware: >there are nine tactors in the seat back, yet people trying it out >report the sensation of up to four times as many taps as were >actually sent. The rabbit builds in redundancy. If one of the >tactors fails, the others can take up its job. > > Tan's research will even benefit people who don't drive. She is >linking a tactile belt to a GPS satellite navigation system, and >using the belt's vibrations to guide a blind person to their >destination. These could replace navigation systems that rely on >beeps or synthesised speech, which can be dangerous if they >divert attention from sounds such as approaching traffic. A >vibration system would also be less conspicuous. > > A further goal of tactile research is to help people with hearing >problems, especially those that develop in childhood. Kimbrough >Oller of the University of Maine in Orono believes a young >child's brain could be trained and reorganised to receive sound >through the skin. 'The neurological plan is not hard-wired and >fixed early in life,' he says. Charlotte Reed, a speech and >hearing researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology >in Cambridge believes that Oller's idea might be accomplished >using a relatively simple display with only a few tactors. >Varying types and textures of vibrations - such as changing >frequencies - might allow complex information to be transmitted >by simple equipment. This would keep the cost of tactile hearing >down, making it perhaps tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than >cochlear implants. >Touch tones > > No one has yet developed such versatile tactors, though, and the >limited market for such devices doesn't help speed research >along. However, the latest industry to seize on the potential of >touch might make a big impact on tactor technology. Jan van Erp, >an experimental psychologist working at the TNO Human Factors >Research Institute in Soesterberg, the Netherlands, wants to >develop vibrators that will put vibrating 'tunes' on mobile >phones. He and his team have been experimenting to see how easily >people recognise the rhythm of a song in tactile form. >Eventually, your phone might be programmed to rattle a tacky >tactile love song when your partner calls, and the sombre touch >of the 'Death March' for calls from the office. Stephen Furner, >senior technology manager at BtexaCT near Ipswich in Suffolk, is >excited by van Erp's trials. 'I'm deeply interested,' he says. 'I >think he's come up with a good idea.' Furner predicts that phones >with tactile display options will be available within the next >five years. > > Perhaps by that time, we'll all be wearing smart clothes studded >with built-in vibrators discreetly spread all over the body. So >there will actually be another option for programming the >personalised tones of the tactile telephone. You might decide you >want a call from the boss to tap you insistently and repeatedly >on the shoulder, for instance. Or maybe you'll reserve that >setting for when your other half calls. > >____________________________________________________________ >Copyright 2001 New Scientist, Reed Business Information > >Regards Steve, >mailto:pattist@ozemail.com.au > > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 19:06:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08185; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:05:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:05:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106192303.QAA11571@proxy2.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:12:20 -0700 Subject: Re: Personal Audio Space? From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Found this at Sennheiser: http://www.sennheiserusa.com/pages/products/aviation/index.htm?hdc45.htm~mai n They are about $200. I would prefer something more discrete than headphones but this looks like it might do what I had in mind! Thanks! -Allan ---------- >From: "MediaOne" >To: >Subject: Re: Personal Audio Space? >Date: Tue, Jun 19, 2001, 2:48 PM > > This idea has been around for awhile- I think Senheiser or someone makes a 2 > or $300 pair of headphones that work on this principal- I was interested > actually- Los Angeles can hum a bit more than I like- Cliff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 19:09:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08302; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:08:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:08:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: The Hot Seat Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:08:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0F8DA.068DF720" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB36E@migarexch01.maritz.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0F8DA.068DF720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!!I look forward to witnessing the First LA Looper's Fest. It was with some trepidation that I considered being scrutinized by my peers. Steuart is of course correct that I deserve my turn in the Hot Seat. However, the opportunity to catch out of towners should not be missed. At this point, it is tough to get out of the house to participate, or even to play here in the apartment. But I'll be there, and I look forward to the chance to play for y'all at some point. Let's have fun! Gary Lehmann ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0F8DA.068DF720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!!
I look forward to witnessing = the First LA=20 Looper's Fest.  It was with some trepidation that I considered = being=20 scrutinized by my peers.  Steuart is of course correct that I = deserve my=20 turn in the Hot Seat.  However, the opportunity to catch out = of=20 towners should not be missed.
At this point, it is tough to = get out of=20 the house to participate, or even to play here in the apartment.  = But I'll=20 be there, and I look forward to the chance to play for y'all at some=20 point.  Let's have fun!
Gary=20 Lehmann
------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0F8DA.068DF720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 19:19:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08608; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:18:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:18:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B2FCF5C.D755B940@sigecom.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:17:01 -0400 From: Scott Winzinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Repeater Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just got an email from Electrix. They said the end of this month. Cross your fingers, Zing From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 19:21:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08736; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:20:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:20:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006e01c0f916$61a3dee0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: The Hot Seat Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:20:07 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01C0F91E.C26C81C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C0F91E.C26C81C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!!Would someone like a participant in = absentia? I could send a CD... [sigh] I look forward to witnessing the First LA Looper's Fest. It was with = some trepidation that I considered being scrutinized by my peers. = Steuart is of course correct that I deserve my turn in the Hot Seat. = However, the opportunity to catch out of towners should not be missed. At this point, it is tough to get out of the house to participate, or = even to play here in the apartment. But I'll be there, and I look = forward to the chance to play for y'all at some point. Let's have fun! Gary Lehmann ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C0F91E.C26C81C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!!
Would someone like a participant in = absentia?  I=20 could send a CD... [sigh]

I look forward to witnessing = the First LA=20 Looper's Fest.  It was with some trepidation that I considered = being=20 scrutinized by my peers.  Steuart is of course correct that I = deserve my=20 turn in the Hot Seat.  However, the opportunity to catch out = of=20 towners should not be missed.
At this point, it is tough to = get out of=20 the house to participate, or even to play here in the apartment.  = But I'll=20 be there, and I look forward to the chance to play for y'all at some=20 point.  Let's have fun!
Gary=20 Lehmann
------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C0F91E.C26C81C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 19:23:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08842; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:22:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:22:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB372@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: The Hot Seat Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:21:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F916.8B03E960" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F916.8B03E960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ya know i was jes' messing, mang. stig -----Original Message----- From: Candace Meyer [mailto:healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:08 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: The Hot Seat I look forward to witnessing the First LA Looper's Fest. It was with some trepidation that I considered being scrutinized by my peers. Steuart is of course correct that I deserve my turn in the Hot Seat. However, the opportunity to catch out of towners should not be missed. At this point, it is tough to get out of the house to participate, or even to play here in the apartment. But I'll be there, and I look forward to the chance to play for y'all at some point. Let's have fun! Gary Lehmann ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F916.8B03E960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!!
ya know i was jes' messing, mang.
 
stig
-----Original Message-----
From: Candace Meyer [mailto:healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:08 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: The Hot Seat

I look forward to witnessing the First LA Looper's Fest.  It was with some trepidation that I considered being scrutinized by my peers.  Steuart is of course correct that I deserve my turn in the Hot Seat.  However, the opportunity to catch out of towners should not be missed.
At this point, it is tough to get out of the house to participate, or even to play here in the apartment.  But I'll be there, and I look forward to the chance to play for y'all at some point.  Let's have fun!
Gary Lehmann
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F916.8B03E960-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 19:30:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09012; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:28:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:28:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <06A9F7A44D8BD411AE0E009027DE4F3546392F@mars.plantronics.com> From: "GRAY, Toby" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:25:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The phase cancellation approach works really well. There are systems designed to "sound proof" the interior of a car using this method by playing back the real sound out of phase through the car's sound system. At the personal level, going back to the Greatful Dead's stage rear sound system using pairs of Sennheiser (sp?) 211 omni mics mounted togeather and wired out of phase, they were able to control the distance of the mic's pick up pattern by a different volume level on one side of the pair. The down side was it supposedly needed alot of EQ to bring the sound back to "normal" and I beleive the omni characteristics were lost to a cariod pattern. Going with this approach you could have a pair(s) of miniature mics sitting in the middle of your dinner table and effectivly cancel out everything out side of X number of feet if you were to wear isolated in ear monitors. Modern conference phone technology has made big steps in this direction. Check out Polycom products. With a lot of the baby boomers loosing their hearing the hearing aid companies and others are working full tilt on this problem. In the mean time try taking Ginko for a few weeks and see if it helps. Good luck, Toby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 19:32:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09155; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:31:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:31:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c0f918$236496e0$604f8eac@0017470167> From: "Q" To: References: <99.16818c5b.2861276b@aol.com> Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:32:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0F8EE.37F853A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0F8EE.37F853A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable UNSUBSCRIBE ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0F8EE.37F853A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0F8EE.37F853A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 20:06:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10979; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:05:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:05:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <27.17256349.28614273@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:04:03 EDT Subject: Re: LA date with Steve + michael To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_27.17256349.28614273_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_27.17256349.28614273_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/19/01 3:14:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tony-moore@juno.com writes: > also, > good thinking tony! ill fly out too if you all pay for it!.....:).....you cali people seem so nice.....michael --part1_27.17256349.28614273_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/19/01 3:14:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tony-moore@juno.com writes:


also,
since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way.


good thinking tony! ill fly out too if you all pay for it!.....:).....you
cali people seem so nice.....michael --part1_27.17256349.28614273_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 20:06:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10941; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:04:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:04:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:06:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Recording 1st L.A. LOOPFEST Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'd really like to request this too, I can't be there, but I'd sure like to hear it. It'd be great if a way could be worked out to accomplish this! Best- Mark >Hey L.A. Loopers, > >Will someone bring a minidisc player and record off of the 'tape out's of >Tony's Mackie. > >We should preserve this for posterity's sake!! > >Wish I could make it. The best of luck to you all. > >Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 21:22:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13254; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:21:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:21:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <48.17459bfc.28615456@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:20:22 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Quad Looping? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com tom@swirly.com writes: >> >>Has anyone been studying the Repeater manual?(or would Damon like to >> >>comment?) It appears one needs to choose between quadraphonic looping >> >>and using the effects loop. > >Oi, I didn't write that! I *answered* that! >(just for the record, y'know...) ahhhh: sorry! >>methinks the terminology's a bit different; >>any repeater 'loop' consists of up to 4 individually-addressable 'tracks'; >>the separate track-addressability includes pitch (+12 > -24), slipping, >>panning, output, fx send, volume, overdubbing (&, to some degree, 'reverse'). > >and the devout hope is that all of these parameters are in >fact controllable through MIDI. indeed, they are. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 21:31:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13464; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:30:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:30:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <75.16704496.2861566e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:29:18 EDT Subject: Re: Personal Audio Space? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <9H0NpB.A.9RD.Uy_L7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ahoeltje@best.com writes: >They are about $200. I would prefer something more discrete than headphones >but this looks like it might do what I had in mind! umhhhh: i've used these things: *interesting* sound, if not very pleasant (and exhibiting extremely narrow freq. response). best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 21:33:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13574; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:32:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:32:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:32:01 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Jehn's (and anyone else's tinitus) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e5.7f7c89b.28615711_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e5.7f7c89b.28615711_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: I, too, have had tinitus problems in the past. It is horrendous when it happens. Too much LOUD guitar playing when I was a lad, I guess. It hasn't been plaguing me in recent years, though. I have several sound sources that are around and near me but I try not to play too loud when practicing/recording. A couple of years back, one thing caused it to flare up: the noise from a bus engine while taking the bus to work. Those mothers are loud! Earplugs helped somewhat. The tinitus subsided when I started driving to work. The point being that being continuously exposed to any loud noises is bad for the ears. Another factor that I've been made aware of relating to tinitus is caffeine intake. I've noticed that less coffee/caffeine equaled less ear noise. Regards, Paul --part1_e5.7f7c89b.28615711_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi:

I, too, have had tinitus problems in the past. It is horrendous when it
happens. Too much LOUD guitar playing when I was a lad, I guess. It hasn't
been plaguing me in recent years, though. I have several sound sources that
are around  and near me but I try not to play too loud when
practicing/recording. A couple of years back, one thing caused it to flare
up: the noise from a bus engine while taking the bus to work. Those mothers
are loud! Earplugs helped somewhat. The tinitus subsided when I started
driving to work. The point being that being continuously exposed to any loud
noises is bad for the ears. Another factor that I've been made aware of
relating to tinitus is caffeine intake. I've noticed that less
coffee/caffeine equaled less ear noise.

Regards, Paul --part1_e5.7f7c89b.28615711_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 22:28:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15593; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:27:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:27:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d801c0f931$4ba08a60$5b122818@norr1.pa.home.com> From: "Andrew Wing" To: Subject: Intro and a request Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:32:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, Just discovered this community the other day. I'm desperately looking for WAV's or MP3's of both Bushism's and the juiciest parts of Clinton's testimony. None of the standard anti-Bush sites seem to have anything beyond the text of his vocal mis-steps. My background: I've been into non-commercial music for over 20 years (EM, avant, prog, etc.) and recorded several tapes of "Steve Reich 'n Roll" for the long defunct Experimental Radio Project (WXPN in Philly) about ten years ago. Three years ago I had a chance to dust off these old tapes for one of the pirate radio stations at Burning Man. Now I'd like to do more loops with Bushism's for BMan again. My style is somewhere between Steve Reich's "It's Gonna Rain" and Negativland. Gear list: 1988: Digitech delay unit triggered from a BK Precision bench oscillator, two endless cassettes, mixdown on Tascam 246 Now: same as before plus a PC running CoolEdit 2000 and Mellosoftron. Visuals done with Winamp Plug-ins and Arkaos' X-Pose-It. NP: John Coltrane/Rashid Ali - Interstellar Space on WPRB. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 22:43:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15910; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:41:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:41:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010619223923.007c4230@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:39:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Intro and a request In-Reply-To: <00d801c0f931$4ba08a60$5b122818@norr1.pa.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:32 PM 6/19/01 -0400, you wrote: >I'm desperately looking >for WAV's or MP3's of both Bushism's >and the juiciest parts of Clinton's testimony. Hi Andrew, At as part of the 'raw materials' for a project I was involved with called 'SourceProduct', there are a few snippets of President Bill's testimony. "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." is there, and a few other things. It's about 4 minutes into a 5 minute mp3. Good luck, Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 19 23:24:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA17641; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:22:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:22:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Alan Imberg" To: Subject: RE: buying a headrush online? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:22:01 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Though I concur on the points about the looping shortcomings of the Headrush, I still dig mine. I use it judiciously along with a Boomerang and a DOD D12. The 23.9 seconds of overlapping looping time (in the delay mode) is cool. I like the multi-outs for recording, devoting the outputs to different tracks. When using the tape echo and offsetting the delay for each output, you get an interesting results in the headphones. For strict looping purposes, however, the DL4 is probably the best bet for a few bucks more. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 00:10:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19490; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:08:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:08:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20010619235918.00a02420@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: taghairm@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:07:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: p koniuto Subject: Re: Intro and a request In-Reply-To: <00d801c0f931$4ba08a60$5b122818@norr1.pa.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Andrew: Welcome! > Just discovered this community the other day. I'm desperately looking >for WAV's or MP3's of both Bushism's >and the juiciest parts of Clinton's testimony. None of the standard >anti-Bush sites seem to have anything beyond >the text of his vocal mis-steps. I'll assume from your post you live in the US. If you're talking about the current President Bush, you can get plenty by turning on the evening news. (I don't mean to sound patronizing if that does, but really, the Bush-isms i hear regularly on the Newshour never cease to amaze me...) By what you've described you've been up to in music, you're gonna fit in just fine around here! Best to ya, peter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 00:11:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19564; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:10:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:10:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [4.54.141.67] From: "Troy Viceroy" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:09:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2001 04:09:16.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[C55A1E40:01C0F93E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Unsubscribe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 00:56:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20457; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:55:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:55:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003c01c0f945$7563ac60$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:57:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com SOOOOO jealous!! SOOOO jealous!! I'm going to send a CD before thursday and your'e going to promise to sample it and COUNT ME IN with it. AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!!! Why the !@#$%^&*! am I still in Orlando?? (not a link..duh..) Jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Lawson" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:52 AM Subject: The first LA Loop Fest!!! > >>>yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if anyone > wants to just come by and jam or whatever. > > sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a bit > worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as much > space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us local > la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? also, > since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. any > thoughts how to handle it? > > also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing to go > direct, that may save some space.<<< > > How about we go for three artists? I don't mind who else plays, though I > have to say I've been wanting to hear Andre for ages, so pleeeeeeze play! > :o) > > dough would be very nice indeed, though I'm happy to go by donation (I'll > bring a hat) or do some deal where it's $5 to get in, but it gets you a > token for $5 off the cost of my CD, so if you buy the album, you get in for > free... :o) Whatever, I'm just looking forward to playing and hanging out! > > So we're booked - thursday, doors 7.30 for an 8 start? bring your own > beer... > > how's all that sound? i'll put the word round if everyone's cool with that > > please CC me if you're replying to this as I'm on in digest mode and wanna > get this sorted ASAP! > > you guys rock - let's do a loop fest! the spirit of Rick Walker looms > large... LOL > > cheers > > Steve > www.steve-lawson.co.uk > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 01:04:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA21810; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:03:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:03:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d901c0f946$a89a8620$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <00d801c0f931$4ba08a60$5b122818@norr1.pa.home.com> Subject: Re: Intro and a request Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:05:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <9cnuy.A.mUF.i6CM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I swear, just keep your finger on the trigger at CSPAN because there's no end to the amount of stupidity that can emanate from this man's mouth. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Wing" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: Intro and a request > Hi all, > > Just discovered this community the other day. I'm desperately looking > for WAV's or MP3's of both Bushism's > and the juiciest parts of Clinton's testimony. None of the standard > anti-Bush sites seem to have anything beyond > the text of his vocal mis-steps. > > My background: I've been into non-commercial music for over 20 years > (EM, avant, prog, etc.) and recorded > several tapes of "Steve Reich 'n Roll" for the long defunct Experimental > Radio Project (WXPN in Philly) about > ten years ago. Three years ago I had a chance to dust off these old tapes > for one of the pirate radio stations at > Burning Man. Now I'd like to do more loops with Bushism's for BMan again. > My style is somewhere between > Steve Reich's "It's Gonna Rain" and Negativland. > > Gear list: > > 1988: Digitech delay unit triggered from a BK Precision bench oscillator, > two endless cassettes, mixdown on > Tascam 246 > > Now: same as before plus a PC running CoolEdit 2000 and Mellosoftron. > Visuals done with Winamp Plug-ins > and Arkaos' X-Pose-It. > > NP: John Coltrane/Rashid Ali - Interstellar Space on WPRB. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 01:38:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA22444; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:37:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:37:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:29:04 -0700 Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Message-ID: <20010619.222905.-73019.5.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-16,18-102 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com lol! cool, if anyone wants their cd to be played, feel free to send me one and i promise to play it. i promised rick i would play his between sets, so how about we play fellow l-d members cd's before and after the gig? here's my address if you're interested. also, lemme know if you want it returned and i'll mail it back to you. hope to see some of you soon! oh, feel free to call or pmail me if you directions, etc. later! tony moore 907 east fairmount rd burbank, ca 91501 818-563-6514 ps - just to clarify, the la loop feste won't be at my house above, but here: 359 east magnolia st suite e (2nd floor in rear) burbank, ca 91501 818-848-2570 On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:57:08 -0400 "Jehn" writes: > SOOOOO jealous!! SOOOO jealous!! I'm going to send a CD before > thursday and > your'e going to promise to sample it and COUNT ME IN with it. > AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!!! > > Why the !@#$%^&*! am I still in Orlando?? > > (not a link..duh..) > > Jehn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Lawson" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:52 AM > Subject: The first LA Loop Fest!!! > > > > >>>yep, thursday is cool with me. i'm also fee over the weekend if > anyone > > wants to just come by and jam or whatever. > > > > sounds like steve is cool with it. since the space is small, i'm a > bit > > worried if we have too many performers, the gear will take up as > much > > space as listeners :-) maybe should have two shows? a show for us > local > > la loopers and a seperate show for steve? any thoughts anyone? > also, > > since steve is traveling, it'd be cool to toss some dough his way. > any > > thoughts how to handle it? > > > > also, i have secured a pa for the evening. so if folks are willing > to go > > direct, that may save some space.<<< > > > > How about we go for three artists? I don't mind who else plays, > though I > > have to say I've been wanting to hear Andre for ages, so > pleeeeeeze play! > > :o) > > > > dough would be very nice indeed, though I'm happy to go by > donation (I'll > > bring a hat) or do some deal where it's $5 to get in, but it gets > you a > > token for $5 off the cost of my CD, so if you buy the album, you > get in > for > > free... :o) Whatever, I'm just looking forward to playing and > hanging out! > > > > So we're booked - thursday, doors 7.30 for an 8 start? bring your > own > > beer... > > > > how's all that sound? i'll put the word round if everyone's cool > with that > > > > please CC me if you're replying to this as I'm on in digest mode > and > wanna > > get this sorted ASAP! > > > > you guys rock - let's do a loop fest! the spirit of Rick Walker > looms > > large... LOL > > > > cheers > > > > Steve > > www.steve-lawson.co.uk > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 01:38:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA22442; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:37:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:37:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:21:12 -0700 Subject: Re: LA date with Steve + michael Message-ID: <20010619.222904.-73019.2.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com lol! oh, did i mention the power surcharge? ;-) On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:04:03 EDT Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 6/19/01 3:14:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > tony-moore@juno.com writes: > > > > also, > > > > good thinking tony! ill fly out too if you all pay for > it!.....:).....you > cali people seem so nice.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 01:39:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA22471; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:38:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:38:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B303674.50750FDA@altruistmusic.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:36:53 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Steve Lawson Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Goof grief, this is happening quickly... OK. First off, I believe that Andrew Pask put his name up as a player before I did. Any further word from Mr. Pask? I wouldn't feel good about playing until everyone who'd volunteered to play prior to me has had their say. So I happily defer to Mr. Pask if he's so inclined to take the stage. Like a lot of people, I'd be happy to play, but I'm also not in a great, tearing hurry to do so. Let's certainly defer to the out-of-towners, as well as the previous applicants. If the cards fall that way, however, the day and time both work fine for me. I'd be delighted and flattered to perform, and very much appreciate the interest. It seems to me that four performers might not be entirely unreasonable, since I'm thinking set-up and tear-down time is liable to be pretty minimal. If everyone can get their gear into the space before the starting time, we could probably cut change-over time between sets to a bare minimum. Didn't one of Rick Walker's festivals have each act's music morphing from one set to the next? Might be cool... Collaborative playing would also be a kick. I also think that set times are something to think about... I personally don't have a "looping set list." Anything I do will be improvised off the top of my head, and I can tailor that improv to the time space available. I certainly don't mind doing a 25-30 minute set, especially if it will help accommodate other people playing that night. Also, since this isn't a club or "bands" type thing, I think we could probably get started straight away at the appointed starting time -- no need to wait around. I wouldn't mind opening the show -- if the thing starts at 7:00, I could be on and off by 7:30 (give or take...) Performance space particulars: A $5 "suggested donation" seems like a good idea to me... if folks want to cough up more, great. I like Steve's idea for a token discount for CD sales, very cool (if I do play I'd like to bring some copies of Disruption Theory along). Here's an idea for handling the audience size and advertising: let's start building up a specific list of people who want to come, strictly from Looper's Delight and their immediate friends. If we get 30 or so people just from here (entirely possible!) then there's no reason to sweat it in terms of getting more folks there. A casual atmosphere would be helpful, I think, especially if seating and such is at a premium. I wouldn't have any objection to people coming and going about the place if need be, as long as they aren't too disruptive to the proceedings. (It's hot in LA right now, and could still be that way by 7:00 PM in an upstairs space with 30 people in the room!) Let's approach this as a spontaneous and informal gathering of folks, who are there to focus their attention on the music being made. I can get to Tony's spot a few hours before the start time to help set up gear and soundcheck. I also have enough web storage space so that I could probably host some streaming RealAudio files (and maybe mp3's) of the gig after the event (regardless of whether or not I actually perform). I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but this seems to cover it... Wow. This I did not expect. 4 1/2 years of vague talk about some sort of LA loop gig, and it suddenly falls together in the space of a couple of days... thanks to a couple of guys who don't live in LA! I ain't complaining... --Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 02:00:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA22977; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:58:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:58:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.17] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:57:51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2001 05:57:51.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[F10B6DF0:01C0F94D] Resent-Message-ID: <8IfkE.A.5mF.-tDM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey LA Loopers! Congrats on the 1st LA Looping Fest! Sounds like a great time. I wish I had checked in on my e-mail earlier, and I would have thrown my hat into the ring (er...I mean loop). But it sounds like you have loopers a-plenty. I live in Tehachapi which is up in the mountains 'tween Bakersfield and LA. But, then, I was at the 1st Loop fest in Santa Cruz back in Jan. and I will be on the "tour" ( as supporting guest artist) with Michael Manring, Steve Lawson and Rick Walker....and I have a new baby to hang with that weekend. But, when the 2nd LA LoopFest comes around please count me in!!! It is so cool how quickly you all banded together and are pulling this off! Best of luck and keep us all posted!!! Loop On Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 04:08:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA28812; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:06:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:06:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2F22FCE11D50D5118D230002A534AB7101622E@NT_EXCH_PAR_01> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric_Joubert?= To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: R8 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:00:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id EAA28784 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I'm new in this mailing list. I don't know if my question is well placed but I would like to know how can I use my Roland R8 to make it compatible with the GM mode ? Thanks ----------------------------- Cédric Joubert cedric.joubert@vcstimeless.fr http://www.multimania.com/cjoubert http://groupevinci.free.fr From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 04:26:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA29050; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:25:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 04:25:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:24:54 -0700 Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3B303674.50750FDA@altruistmusic.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > OK. First off, I believe that Andrew Pask put his name up as a player > before I did. Any further word from Mr. Pask? I wouldn't feel good > about playing until everyone who'd volunteered to play prior to me has > had their say. So I happily defer to Mr. Pask if he's so inclined to > take the stage. Andre, that's very gracious of you - Andrew, it's over to you. I can see no major reason why you both can't play, this is a festival after all... :o) > It seems to me that four performers might not be entirely > unreasonable, since I'm thinking set-up and tear-down time is liable > to be pretty minimal. If everyone can get their gear into the space > before the starting time, we could probably cut change-over time > between sets to a bare minimum. > > Didn't one of Rick Walker's festivals have each act's music morphing > from one set to the next? Might be cool... Collaborative playing > would also be a kick. I'm certainly up for some duo/trio fun (in the musical sense, rather than the add-in-the-back-of-LA-weekly sense) > I also think that set times are something to think about... I > personally don't have a "looping set list." Anything I do will be > improvised off the top of my head, and I can tailor that improv to the > time space available. I certainly don't mind doing a 25-30 minute > set, especially if it will help accommodate other people playing that > night. > > Also, since this isn't a club or "bands" type thing, I think we could > probably get started straight away at the appointed starting time -- > no need to wait around. I wouldn't mind opening the show -- if the > thing starts at 7:00, I could be on and off by 7:30 (give or take...) all sounds good to me - the call is Tony's though, as 'curator' of the fest... :o) > Performance space particulars: > > A $5 "suggested donation" seems like a good idea to me... if folks > want to cough up more, great. I like Steve's idea for a token > discount for CD sales, very cool (if I do play I'd like to bring some > copies of Disruption Theory along). Tony, can we have the final word on this? > Here's an idea for handling the audience size and advertising: let's > start building up a specific list of people who want to come, strictly > from Looper's Delight and their immediate friends. If we get 30 or so > people just from here (entirely possible!) then there's no reason to > sweat it in terms of getting more folks there. OK - I'll mention it on my gig list, and e-mail a few friends, but have them contact Tony about reserving space... > A casual atmosphere would be helpful, I think, especially if seating > and such is at a premium. I wouldn't have any objection to people > coming and going about the place if need be, as long as they aren't > too disruptive to the proceedings. (It's hot in LA right now, and > could still be that way by 7:00 PM in an upstairs space with 30 people > in the room!) Let's approach this as a spontaneous and informal > gathering of folks, who are there to focus their attention on the > music being made. Informal is great with me - I tend to think of what I do as Ambientertainment, in that I'm happy for it to be performance or environmental... > I can get to Tony's spot a few hours before the start time to help set > up gear and soundcheck. I also have enough web storage space so that > I could probably host some streaming RealAudio files (and maybe mp3's) > of the gig after the event (regardless of whether or not I actually perform). That's all great - I've got some space so could host bits of my own set, but don't have space for entire gigs, so if you want to post the whole lot, that would be stunning (assuming it's not rubbish... :o) > Wow. This I did not expect. 4 1/2 years of vague talk about some > sort of LA loop gig, and it suddenly falls together in the space of a > couple of days... thanks to a couple of guys who don't live in LA! I do feel Rick's influence in all these proceedings - he's such a great catalyst for creative musical ventures, and along with the generousity of Ashdown Amps, is the reason I'm coming to the states... cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 06:03:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32043; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:01:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:01:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005001c0f8a6$8cf80d20$c7ad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 05:59:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -----Original Message----- From: Troy Viceroy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:12 AM Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE >Unsubscribe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Um... You have to do it yourself. Here's a portion of the welcome message that we all get upon joining. You DID save it as instructed, didn't you? Bill =============== If you ever need to unsubscribe, send mail to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject and the body. Make sure that your signature file is turned off If you need to discuss anything directly with me, I'm Kim Flint, and my email address is kflint@annihilist.com. And be sure to check the Looper's Delight web page: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Have fun, and happy looping! kim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 09:04:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04902; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:01:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:01:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003201c0f989$3dd0be20$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <200106121640.MAA00818@hemlock.violacea.com> <004301c0f508$7c1b95e0$0642f93f@dnlsh01> Subject: Re: Re:New York Loopers, West Coast Loopers Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:02:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <7E-IMB.A.OMB.b5JM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com That's why I love this list. Looping allows self-accompaniment of instruments that have always been solo and linear in nature. I am a solo looping vocalist, and through playing in this manner, I've been blessed to discover the magic of harmonics, and the textures created by something as simple as planned dissonance, not to mention just the sheer versatility of the voice. Here in Orlando, it's so hard to explain what I do. Everything electronic has to do with DJing..it's so far from that. Thanks to everyone.. Jehn eyelight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:30 PM Subject: Re:New York Loopers, West Coast Loopers > Eric Leonardson wrote: > "Perhaps a Looping Festival suggests a genre or > aesthetic that musicians don't want to be pegged in, or identified > with, even though that's not necessarily so. (amongst other thoughtful > things)" > > > Very good point, Eric, and it just reveals my own myopia. I, and a small > community near me fiercely identify with the idea of being solo > live loopers. Because the form is not well understood or accepted, we have > had to fight very hard to be accepted (or to get gigs) and we have to > constantly educate and foment along the way. > > As a professional I, of course, do many gigs and genres of music that > involve no looping and of course, I use my looper to create effects that > an average audience would never identify as looping. > > I'm just a fanatic and a convert (the most dangerous and obnoxious > kind) > but probably no worse than I was when I first discovered (starting in 1965): > Rock,Soul, Funk, Blues,Sensitive Singer Songwriters, Prog Rock, Classical > music, Jazz , Jazz Fusion, Avante Garde music, Serial Minimalism, > Electronic music,New Wave and Punk,Reggae,African musican, World music, Hip > Hop/Sampling, Trip Hop,Jungle and Abstract Electronica---I think that I have > been compulsive and addicted to music all of my life----why stop now? > Wow, that is incredible, Eric, I have never stopped and written down > (in order, no less) all of the musical obsessions that I have had in my > life. That list is like looking at a timeline of myself. It kind of jumps > around > too, don't you think? I know of more than a few musicians in this town who > are mystified by the fact that I am not out playing the drumset (which I've > played the longest and have, probably, the most skill at) these days. > I love drumming, actually. I just drum until it sounds perfect, then I > loop it :-). There's something about filtering the loop in real time and > then using it to vocode a vocal loop that I'm using that just gets me good. > I guess I'd rather manipulate the loops electronically than play endless > gratuitous > hi hat ornaments with my prodigious technique ;-) > > The upside of it all, I suppose, is that I've created a lot of venues > for artists in the last few years and a lot of publicity for Looping and > Electronica in my home town, and I've helped get several young musicians > started on a path (with some emotional support behind them which is what I > never had). > > I realize I can be a bit on the overbearing side throughout it all. > however. I suppose I can relax and try to embody an important concept that > I have learned: "every character defect can be a character asset if used > with self conciousness". > Thanks for the perspective...........and loop on, imperceptively, > > your friend, Rick > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 09:18:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05535; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:17:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:17:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:16:21 -0700 Subject: Gig Spam [Seattle, WA]: Electrochakra @ Zoka, Saturday 6/23 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The always loopy Electrochakra will be performing at Zoka Coffee & Tea (2200 North 56th Street) this Saturday June 23 starting at 8PM. Admission is free. Be seeing you, Travis Hartnett Electrochakra -- NEW official Electrochakra website: http://www.electrochakra.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 09:24:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05740; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:23:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:23:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: <2b.1716c94b.2861fda5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:22:45 EDT Subject: Re: Intro and a request To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2b.1716c94b.2861fda5_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_2b.1716c94b.2861fda5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jon stewart - the daily show - on comedy central - usually has incredibly scary bushisms - it truly makes you wonder ....... harry --part1_2b.1716c94b.2861fda5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jon stewart - the daily show - on comedy central - usually has incredibly
scary bushisms - it truly makes you wonder ....... harry --part1_2b.1716c94b.2861fda5_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 09:40:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06057; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:39:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:39:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B30A97A.12D1@Hevanet.Com.> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:47:38 -0700 From: DaViD AuKeR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Jehn's (and anyone else's tinitus) References: <200106201304.JAA05007@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PaulPokr@aol.com writes: > I, too, have had tinitus problems in the past. It is horrendous when it > happens. ...A couple of years back, one thing caused it to flare > up: the noise from a bus engine while taking the bus to work. Those mothers > are loud! Earplugs helped somewhat. I am a cyclist, and traffic is one of the major sound sources on this planet (w/o any redeeming qualities of music)! I knew my tinitus was worsening when I started hearing it over the sounds of traffic... For years I was pretty strung-out on ear plugs, but was advised by two audiologists that over-use was akin to wearing dark glasses all the time: eventually, even moderate intensity becomes too much. Now, while I still do wear plugs riding in heavy traffic, I have freed myself from overly protecting my ears, and it's GREAT! Too much sound (restaurants: agrh!) still can hurt, but letting more in has toughened me up quite a bit. I'm freed from a silly addiction (still have the plugs in my pocket, just in case!). ...not a 'cure' in the tinitus dept, but I'll just live w/it... Dav From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 10:19:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07833; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:17:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:17:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.160b761f.28620a63@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:17:07 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Jehn's (and anyone else's tinitus) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <4flI1C.A.C6B.nBLM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com DavAuk@Hevanet.Com writes: >I am a cyclist, and traffic is one of the major sound sources on this >planet (w/o any redeeming qualities of music)! ha! really? music is anywhere ya hear it. *-) >I knew my tinitus was >worsening when I started hearing it over the sounds of traffic... For >years I was pretty strung-out on ear plugs, but was advised by two >audiologists that over-use was akin to wearing dark glasses all the >time: eventually, even moderate intensity becomes too much. Now, while >I still do wear plugs riding in heavy traffic, I have freed myself from >overly protecting my ears, and it's GREAT! Too much sound (restaurants: >agrh!) still can hurt, but letting more in has toughened me up quite a >bit. I'm freed from a silly addiction (still have the plugs in my >pocket, just in case!). ...not a 'cure' in the tinitus dept, but I'll >just live w/it... fwiw: i have, well..... very strong tinnitus, in addition to my severe hearing loss --- (i'm legally deaf, w/no hearing-nerve on one side, & approx. 40% hearing on the other) --- and i'm constantly learning to live w/it. high caffeine (& stress)-levels seem to bring the tinnitus to the fore, but i thrive on both. *-) sometimes, i just hang out..... relaxing..... listening closely to the rich weave of textures/pitches/gurglings self-recreating 'in' my head..... i never fight w/it, anymore. fwiw. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 10:38:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08166; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:37:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:37:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Cataldo De Palma" To: "loopers" Subject: Where can I buy an echoplex ? Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:32:04 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C0F9A6.8A690680" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C0F9A6.8A690680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear friends, I'm from Italy and I'm desperate for a second echoplex in order to play stereo loops with my paradis guitar. do you know where to buy it ? even second hand. thanks aldo ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C0F9A6.8A690680 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Cataldo De Palma.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Cataldo De Palma.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:De Palma;Cataldo FN:Cataldo De Palma TEL;WORK;VOICE:+39+80+89824521 TEL;HOME;VOICE:+39+80+8987278 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+39+328+6558404 TEL;WORK;FAX:1782279791 ADR;WORK:;;Via Verdi 3;Corato;(BA);70033;Italy LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:Via Verdi 3=3D0D=3D0ACorato, (BA) = 70033=3D0D=3D0AItaly ADR;HOME:;;via Verdi 3;Corato;BA;70033;Italy LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:via Verdi 3=3D0D=3D0ACorato, BA = 70033=3D0D=3D0AItaly EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:cataldo.depalma@inwind.it REV:20010522T180631Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C0F9A6.8A690680-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 10:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08387; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:46:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:46:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c0f998$113f9a20$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <6b.160b761f.28620a63@aol.com> Subject: Re: OT: Jehn's (and anyone else's tinitus) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:48:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My last word on tinitus..and then silence (ha ha).. I tried to convince my boyfriend that something as simple as the computer was contributing to my problem. It's not so much an issue as volume, but with corresponding frequencies..y'know..the slave tuning fork?? jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: Re: OT: Jehn's (and anyone else's tinitus) > DavAuk@Hevanet.Com writes: > >I am a cyclist, and traffic is one of the major sound sources on this > >planet (w/o any redeeming qualities of music)! > ha! really? > music is anywhere ya hear it. > *-) > > >I knew my tinitus was > >worsening when I started hearing it over the sounds of traffic... For > >years I was pretty strung-out on ear plugs, but was advised by two > >audiologists that over-use was akin to wearing dark glasses all the > >time: eventually, even moderate intensity becomes too much. Now, while > >I still do wear plugs riding in heavy traffic, I have freed myself from > >overly protecting my ears, and it's GREAT! Too much sound (restaurants: > >agrh!) still can hurt, but letting more in has toughened me up quite a > >bit. I'm freed from a silly addiction (still have the plugs in my > >pocket, just in case!). ...not a 'cure' in the tinitus dept, but I'll > >just live w/it... > fwiw: > i have, well..... very strong tinnitus, in addition to my severe hearing loss > --- (i'm legally deaf, w/no hearing-nerve on one side, & approx. 40% hearing > on the other) --- and i'm constantly learning to live w/it. > high caffeine (& stress)-levels seem to bring the tinnitus to the fore, but i > thrive on both. > *-) > sometimes, i just hang out..... relaxing..... listening closely to the rich > weave of textures/pitches/gurglings self-recreating 'in' my head..... > i never fight w/it, anymore. > fwiw. > best, > dt / s-c > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 11:39:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10536; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:37:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:37:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003901c0f99e$c6d264c0$6f44f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106201304.JAA05007@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: L.A. LoopFest and some inconherent ramblings............ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:36:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Max Valentino wrote: "But, when the 2nd LA LoopFest comes around please count me in!!!" I, too, would like to throw my hat in for the 2nd Los Angeles LoopFest* : any chance to join you guys down south and any chance to get to see my good buddy, Max!!! I wanted to commend all of you So Cal loopers for how quickly this has all come together and with such communal spirit. Here are a couple of quick thoughts of things that I've stumbled on producing similar events. They are gratuitously proferred and should be accordingly ignored if they don't fit: I have discovered that if everybody sets up their gear at the start of the show the time between sets can be nullified which makes it a much more effective listening experience. Limiting the performances to more festival oriented sets (between 15 minutes and 30 minutes) with a 'headliner' act at the end playing a long set seems to add to the flow of the show and keeps things moving, stylistically. Also, for what it's worth, we've set up a merchandise table and gotten the artists who are not playing to man (or rather, to person) the table while not playing in a rotating fashion (It may seem silly but remember to bring $50 in $5 dollar bills and get the artists to charge in $5 increments ($10,$15,$20, whatever). More CDs get sold because there is someone to talk to or get autographs from). Add an official M.C. to the proceedings with a little cued up Loop music from auslanders (people who couldn't make the gig but want to participate and remind them to mark which cut(s) they want played on the outside of the CD so that it is a no brainer and you have a pretty professional festival oriented listening experience. Dead time (space with nothing happening sonically) is one of the great killers of vibe at concerts so the more the 'show' flows, the better the listening experience for the audience. I say all of this because we want this thing to grow as a phenomena. I'm just pulling things off of the top of my head after a night with insomnia so please forgive the wierd order: Oh, yeah. Remind all the artists to have two really long line cables that can patch into the main board (if there is one). With a lot of solo acts on stage there is always a good chance that you might end up further away from the mixing board (I always set it up on stage for ease of access because I tend to be the M.C., the mixing engineer and a performer and , in the last Festival of Voice + Electronics, I had to run all the way to the back of the Rio Theatre-which is a long ways-to change the lighting on stage for the modern dance troupe that was on stage at the time and then run back and continue MCing out of breath just because there was nobody else to do it---free shows are frequently like this. The controversial Musicians Friends catalogue sells these obnoxious dayglo line cables in long lengths. They are very good to own when there is a tremendous amount of spaghetti on stage (all the other black cables from all the loopers). Because I play a lot of instruments I use several colors (also, I'm a dayglo fetishist but that is topic for a different e-mail chain ;-) so it is really easy to see my routing in low light situations. I've rambled enough. I'm jealous that I can't be there is all. good luck, Rick * or you could call it "2001: A Loop Odyssey"---ouch that's corny, but I swear that I'll use it before the year's up) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 11:41:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10601; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:39:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:39:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:28:48 -0700 From: Andrew Pask Subject: Re: The first LA Loop Fest!!! In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <20010620082849-r01010600-d09b80a1@66.120.47.138> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On 20/6/01 at 9:24, steve@steve-lawson.co.uk (Steve Lawson) wrote: > > OK. First off, I believe that Andrew Pask put his name up as a player > > before I did. Any further word from Mr. Pask? I wouldn't feel good > > about playing until everyone who'd volunteered to play prior to me has > > had their say. So I happily defer to Mr. Pask if he's so inclined to > > take the stage. > > Andre, that's very gracious of you - Andrew, it's over to you. I can see no > major reason why you both can't play, this is a festival after all... :o) > Thank you very much for holding open the door kind sirs. I have decided to leave the assorted pile of saxophones and electronic mayhem bolted in position in my studio on that night. It is my belief that enthusiasm to play and musical inspiration are directly related to the amount of miles one is willing to haul gear to a gig, I hope my ten minutes on the 101 will at least allow me to get in the building....... I'm right up for a jam though. Cheers A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 11:55:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10961; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:52:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:52:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B316F58.3F41ACF3@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:51:53 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Intro and a request References: <5.0.2.1.1.20010619235918.00a02420@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you get Comedy Central on your cable, check out The Daily Show. They pick out the very best of Bush. I get most of my news from that show, I must say. It's probably the most honest news show in the US. Mark p koniuto wrote: > Andrew: > > Welcome! > > > Just discovered this community the other day. I'm desperately looking > >for WAV's or MP3's of both Bushism's > >and the juiciest parts of Clinton's testimony. None of the standard > >anti-Bush sites seem to have anything beyond > >the text of his vocal mis-steps. > > I'll assume from your post you live in the US. > If you're talking about the current President > Bush, you can get plenty by turning on the > evening news. (I don't mean to sound patronizing > if that does, but really, the Bush-isms i hear > regularly on the Newshour never cease to amaze > me...) > > By what you've described you've been up to in > music, you're gonna fit in just fine around > here! > > Best to ya, > peter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 12:59:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13072; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:58:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:58:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB374@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:56:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F9A9.FEAC7C40" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F9A9.FEAC7C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Also, since this isn't a club or "bands" type thing, I think we could probably get started straight away at the appointed starting time -- no need to wait around. I wouldn't mind opening the show -- if the thing starts at 7:00, I could be on and off by 7:30 (give or take...) ** i think that a 7:00 p.m. start will make it neigh on impossible for some of us to attend: 1. anyone with kids or jobs will have a hard time making that start due to dinner, etc. 2. l.a. traffic being what it is, gettting to burbank for that time will be a nightmare - - the 101, 170, 134 during rush hour? give it up. suggest a later start time - - the old club standard of 8 or later seems to work. just my 2 cents . . . stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F9A9.FEAC7C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!!

Also, since this isn't a club or "bands" = type thing, I think we could
probably get started straight away at the appointed = starting time --
no need to wait around.  I wouldn't mind = opening the show -- if the
thing starts at 7:00, I could be on and off by 7:30 = (give or take...)

** i think that a 7:00 p.m. start will make it neigh = on impossible for some of us to attend:

1. anyone with kids or jobs will have a hard time = making that start due to dinner, etc.

2. l.a. traffic being what it is, gettting to burbank = for that time will be a nightmare - - the 101, 170, 134 during rush = hour? give it up.

suggest a later start time - - the old club standard = of 8 or later seems to work.

just my 2 cents . . .

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F9A9.FEAC7C40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 13:07:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14296; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:05:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:05:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010620124632.00a3cdd0@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:06:46 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: reel to reel thing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_9931971==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_9931971==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed well... i dunno about insight... here's my $.02 anyway... will the reel spindles turn at all (even if you turn them by hand?) you might be having a gunk problem. maybe asses first whether the heads look overly worn or not - since you don't want to drop a bunch of dough on fixing whatever could br wrong with the MDA if the heads are toast. you're looking for the obvious - razorblade scores, shredded bits of metal, etc. if they look real clean, then look closer at the wear made from the tape path across the head. does it look like the san pedro ravine, or a just subtle notch, or maybe nothing at all... MDA problems - belts, relays, total viscosity breakdown on lube that's 20 yrs old... any and all can happen. sadly, this means you can't test the brakes either. they may or may not be feeling their age as well. since fixing these reel kids can cost as much as fixing REAL kids, it does become a particular conundrum out of which there may be no easy way. if you're mech. inclined you might want to just wade in, yknow, for the "fun of it" - w/ the understanding that hey, if you burn the roast you'll just go out to eat. (sorry, vegans ;-) o/wise, could ship it to triple s or (gadzooks!) jrf magnetics... if you, like, REALLY want it and money's no object... or, sometimes, what you can do is to take it apart yourself, and carefully clean it of any dried-up gunk so that the reel pads will turn by hand, and everything looks as groovy as possible, then bring humpty in to have all the king's men put him back together again. this way, you have saved the hourly on the breakdown and stuff you could have done yourself - but not every repair facility will work w/ you in that way, and you'd want to asses ahead of time that a job like that is cool w/ them. ok! a:c >> From: "diatom drone" To: Subject: fixing reel-to-reels? Message-ID: <04e201c0f90f$9ad43cc0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The main issue though is his old Sony tape deck (TC-336 is the model). The controls seem to be in order, the LEDs work etc. The only thing that seems amiss is that reels won't move when the directional control is engaged. Could this be a belt issue? I've taken apart a few cassette players for parts but I've never worked on a reel-to-reel. I definitely don't want to screw it up, but there's not anywhere around here that could likely fix it. It seems to be a really nice deck, and I'd hate for it to just get scrapped, especially with the possibility of using it as part of a mastering chain. As always any and all insight is much appreciated! << ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_9931971==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

well... i dunno about insight... here's my $.02 anyway...

will the reel spindles turn at all (even if you turn them by hand?) you might be having a gunk problem.

maybe asses first whether the heads look overly worn or not - since you don't want to drop a bunch of dough on fixing whatever could br wrong with the MDA if the heads are toast. you're looking for the obvious - razorblade scores, shredded bits of metal, etc. if they look real clean, then look closer at the wear made from the tape path across the head. does it look like the san pedro ravine, or a just subtle notch, or maybe nothing at all...

MDA problems - belts, relays, total viscosity breakdown on lube that's 20 yrs old... any and all can happen. sadly, this means you can't test the brakes either. they may or may not be feeling their age as well.

since fixing these reel kids can cost as much as fixing REAL kids, it does become a particular conundrum out of which there may be no easy way. if you're mech. inclined you might want to just wade in, yknow, for the "fun of it" - w/ the understanding that hey, if you burn the roast you'll just go out to eat. (sorry, vegans  ;-)

o/wise, could ship it to triple s or (gadzooks!) jrf magnetics... if you, like, REALLY want it and money's no object...

or, sometimes, what you can do is to take it apart yourself, and carefully clean it of any dried-up gunk so that the reel pads will turn by hand, and everything looks as groovy as possible, then bring humpty in to have all the king's men put him back together again. this way, you have saved the hourly on the breakdown and stuff you could have done yourself - but not every repair facility will work w/ you in that way, and you'd want to asses ahead of time that a job like that is cool w/ them.

ok!

a:c



>>
From: "diatom drone" <skincage@infin8ty.com>
To: <benders@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: fixing reel-to-reels?
Message-ID: <04e201c0f90f$9ad43cc0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The main issue though is his old Sony tape deck (TC-336 is the model). The
controls seem to be in order, the LEDs work etc. The only thing that seems
amiss is that reels won't move when the directional control is engaged.
Could this be a belt issue? I've taken apart a few cassette players for
parts but I've never worked on a reel-to-reel. I definitely don't want to
screw it up, but there's not anywhere around here that could likely fix it.
It seems to be a really nice deck, and I'd hate for it to just get scrapped,
especially with the possibility of using it as part of a mastering chain.
As always any and all insight is much appreciated!
<<


++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--=====================_9931971==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 13:10:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14446; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:08:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:08:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: Are You a Boy or a Girl Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:08:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0F970.F154E520" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB374@migarexch01.maritz.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <2KspIC.A.XhD.IiNM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0F970.F154E520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!!By request-- A name change. Sorry for any confusion. Microsoft Outlook has only one slot for name under internet accounts so I set it up with Candy's name because this was to be a business account--however, the bulk of my email has been to y'all and so I will change it to my name and change it back if need be for the business occasion. I guess I could leave it in my name tho because we are supposed to be partners. TMI, but there ya go. Gary PS I wanna be on the bill at the next one. G ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0F970.F154E520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!!
By=20 request--
A name=20 change.
Sorry for any=20 confusion.
Microsoft Outlook has only one = slot for=20 name under internet accounts so I set it up with Candy's name because = this was=20 to be a business account--however, the bulk of my email has been to = y'all and so=20 I will change it to my name and change it back if need be for the = business=20 occasion.  I guess I could leave it in my name tho because we are = supposed=20 to be partners.
TMI, but there ya=20 go.
Gary
PS  I wanna be on the = bill at the=20 next one.
G
------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0F970.F154E520-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 13:34:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14971; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:32:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:32:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00dc01c0f9ae$8ea0ea30$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <200106201304.JAA05007@hemlock.violacea.com> <003901c0f99e$c6d264c0$6f44f93f@dnlsh01> Subject: Re: L.A. LoopFest and some inconherent ramblings............ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:29:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Here are a couple of quick thoughts of things that I've stumbled on > producing similar events. . . . > . . . Hey! How 'bout we collect Rick's advice and those of others and put a page together on Looper's Delight called (maybe) "How to Organize a Loop Fest"? Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 13:36:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15095; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:35:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:35:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009a01c0f9ae$f35c92d0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: OT: Are You a Boy or a Girl Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:32:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm a boy ... wait ..... yup. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 13:39:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15582; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:38:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:38:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!! Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:36:56 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2001 17:36:57.0191 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A6EA770:01C0F9AF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gotta agree with Stig there. I will be driving up from my job in Irvine, and 7pm might be a bit early for a start time for me. Not that I expect the whole thing to hinge on what is comfortable for me, but an 8pm start time would be a lot easier. >From: "Liebig, Steuart A." >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > >Subject: RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!! >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:56:48 -0400 > > > >Also, since this isn't a club or "bands" type thing, I think we could >probably get started straight away at the appointed starting time -- >no need to wait around. I wouldn't mind opening the show -- if the >thing starts at 7:00, I could be on and off by 7:30 (give or take...) > >** i think that a 7:00 p.m. start will make it neigh on impossible for some >of us to attend: > >1. anyone with kids or jobs will have a hard time making that start due to >dinner, etc. > >2. l.a. traffic being what it is, gettting to burbank for that time will be >a nightmare - - the 101, 170, 134 during rush hour? give it up. > >suggest a later start time - - the old club standard of 8 or later seems to >work. > >just my 2 cents . . . > >stig > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 13:43:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15848; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:41:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:41:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009501c0f9b0$af2d0f20$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <200106201304.JAA05007@hemlock.violacea.com> <003901c0f99e$c6d264c0$6f44f93f@dnlsh01> <00dc01c0f9ae$8ea0ea30$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: Re: L.A. LoopFest and some inconherent ramblings............ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:44:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com C'mon Dennis, you know the answer to that one- if you make the pages Kim will most likely add them to the LD site- so get busy! ;) Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Leas" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: Re: L.A. LoopFest and some inconherent ramblings............ > > Here are a couple of quick thoughts of things that I've stumbled on > > producing similar events. . . . > > . . . > > Hey! How 'bout we collect Rick's advice and those of others and put a page > together on Looper's Delight called (maybe) "How to Organize a Loop Fest"? > > > Dennis Leas > ------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 13:56:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16233; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:55:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:55:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010620175508.98227.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:55:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Chicago loopers.... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, just thought I'd check to see if there's any loopers on this list in the Chicago area? Also, my band X Space is playing June 23rd at: The Nervous Center 4612 N. Lincoln Ave. Chicago, IL 773-728-5010 The show starts 10:00 PM with Miles Tilmann. X Space includes yours truly on 5 and 6 string guitars, multiple loopers and synthesizer. Our music style varies per gig as we improvise exclusively. In genereal it is somewhere between early 70's electronic with guitar. We should be starting around 11:15 PM. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 14:02:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17575; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:00:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:00:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010620120517.0096f140@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:05:17 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: L.A. LoopFest and some inconherent ramblings............ In-Reply-To: <003901c0f99e$c6d264c0$6f44f93f@dnlsh01> References: <200106201304.JAA05007@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I agree with Rick, if I can get some notice for the next one, I'll even consider flying out, as I'm looking at CA and LA in particular, as a possible move, so not only would it be a total blast and a half, a little vaca, but also a little info gathering excursion. Jeezz that was a looooong sentence! lol! Anyway, you get the jist! Oh, btw, I have purple line cables! lol!, and Rick, I also like alot of colors. -and their contrasts with BLACK. Anyway, have a great day, All... Smiles, The Damsel Deity At 08:36 AM 6/20/01 -0700, you wrote: >Max Valentino wrote: >"But, when the 2nd LA LoopFest comes around please count me in!!!" > >I, too, would like to throw my hat in for >the 2nd Los Angeles LoopFest* : any chance to join you guys down south and >any chance to get to see my good buddy, Max!!! > >I wanted to commend all of you So Cal loopers for how quickly this has all >come together and with such communal spirit. > > >Here are a couple of quick thoughts of things that I've stumbled on >producing similar events. They are gratuitously proferred and >should be accordingly ignored if they don't fit: > >I have discovered that if everybody sets up their gear at the start of the >show the time between sets can be nullified which makes it a much more >effective listening experience. >Limiting the performances to more festival oriented sets (between 15 minutes >and 30 minutes) with a 'headliner' act at the end playing a long set seems >to add to the flow of the show and keeps things moving, stylistically. > >Also, for what it's worth, we've set up a merchandise table and gotten the >artists who are not playing to >man (or rather, to person) the table while not playing in a rotating fashion >(It may seem silly but remember to bring $50 in $5 dollar bills and get the >artists to charge in $5 increments ($10,$15,$20, whatever). > More CDs get sold because there is someone to talk to or get autographs >from). > >Add an official M.C. to the proceedings with a little cued up Loop music >from auslanders (people who couldn't make the gig but want to participate >and remind them to mark which >cut(s) they want played on the outside of the CD so that it is a no brainer >and you have a pretty professional festival oriented listening experience. >Dead time (space with nothing happening sonically) is one of the great >killers of vibe at concerts so the more the 'show' flows, the better the >listening experience for the audience. I say all of this because we want >this thing to grow as a phenomena. > >I'm just pulling things off of the top of my head after a night with >insomnia so please >forgive the wierd order: > >Oh, yeah. Remind all the artists to have >two really long line cables that can patch into the main board (if there is >one). With a lot of solo acts on stage there is always a good chance that >you might end up further away from the mixing board (I always set it up on >stage for ease of access because I tend to be the M.C., the mixing engineer >and a performer and , in the last Festival of Voice + Electronics, I had to >run all the way to the back of the Rio Theatre-which is a long ways-to >change the lighting on stage for the modern dance troupe that was on stage >at the time and then run back and continue MCing out of breath just because >there was nobody else to do it---free shows are frequently like this. >The controversial Musicians Friends catalogue sells these obnoxious dayglo >line cables in long lengths. They are very good to own when there is a >tremendous amount of spaghetti on stage (all the other black cables from all >the loopers). Because I play a lot of instruments I use several colors >(also, I'm a >dayglo fetishist but that is topic for a different e-mail chain ;-) so it is >really easy to see my routing in low light situations. > >I've rambled enough. I'm jealous that I can't be there is all. good luck, >Rick > > > > > > > > >* or you could call it "2001: A Loop Odyssey"---ouch that's corny, but I >swear that I'll use it before the year's up) > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 14:13:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18061; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:12:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:12:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00f501c0f9b4$4d081a20$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <200106201304.JAA05007@hemlock.violacea.com> <003901c0f99e$c6d264c0$6f44f93f@dnlsh01> <00dc01c0f9ae$8ea0ea30$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> <009501c0f9b0$af2d0f20$7bb387d8@cliff> Subject: request to Festival organizers Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:10:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <_aQsaC.A.vZE.BeOM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > C'mon Dennis, you know the answer to that one- if you make the pages Kim > will most likely add them to the LD site- so get busy! ;) Ok, you make a good point. (Did I just volunteer for something?) All you festival organizers out there, send me your advice. (Yes, I think I *did* volunteer!) I'll moosh it together into some aggregate webpage. And if Kim likes it, maybe we'll see it on Looper's Delight. Some Suggested Topics (besides the normal): 1) Finding a venue 2) How to advertise 3) How to avoid going crazy 4) The Follow-up (after the Festival) 5) Tips on Sound Reinforcement for loopers Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 14:27:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18475; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:26:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:26:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Incensepeppamint@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:25:56 EDT Subject: Re:Chicago loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d7.80fa4e7.286244b4_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_d7.80fa4e7.286244b4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, I think there are a few of us. Can you say Chicago loopfest? --part1_d7.80fa4e7.286244b4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, I think there are a few of us.  Can you say Chicago loopfest? --part1_d7.80fa4e7.286244b4_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 14:32:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18708; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:31:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:31:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009b01c0f9b7$20ee6680$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <200106201304.JAA05007@hemlock.violacea.com> <3.0.5.32.20010620120517.0096f140@mail.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: L.A. LoopFest and some inconherent ramblings............ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:30:47 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <_7deiD.A.CkE.mvOM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ditto kids. If I had a job, and enough money to fly out there, I'd make it too. As it is though there's so little IT work over here, it's a stretch just to send CDs to people in the hopes of attaining either representation or placement in film/video/tv/games... However, when comes the time that I can get back to LA - there's a lot of stuff in storage that I have to both liquidate and move to a smaller space, and a ton of friends I miss dearly - I'd like to schlep my equipment over with me, and do a show or two! Alas, my cables are black. But I can promise to do some poster stuff for yez if I have enough notice, and it's to be a real event involving any promotion. Just let me know, folks. Examples? Try these: http://www.earthlight.net/images/iToons/Solstice89.html http://www.earthlight.net/images/iToons/Solstice91.html http://www.earthlight.net/images/iToons/Future.html http://www.earthlight.net/images/iToons/OnCampus68.html All of which were done in less than 24 hours, folks. Really. :) Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 14:35:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18803; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:33:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:33:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <010301c0f9b7$d1796860$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: Re: Re:Chicago loopers Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:35:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sadly I think it's safe to say a North Carolina loopfest could fit in a breadbox. I hope I'm wrong! Anyone? I'm in Fayetteville/Greensboro Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: Re:Chicago loopers > Yeah, I think there are a few of us. Can you say Chicago loopfest? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 14:47:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19030; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:46:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:46:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B30EF14.5A902543@altruistmusic.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:44:36 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LA Loop Fest - Latest Developments... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK, Hmmmm. Concerns about start time are valid; I wouldn't object to an 8:00 PM start time as long as it doesn't cause a lot of hassles for the actual set. Speaking of which, here's a couple of things that occur to me: -- Playing CDs of people between the live acts is a very cool idea, but I can't help thinking that the priority should be placed on the performers there. I say this with all possible respect to everyone who might be wanting to have their music played between live performances, but it seems to me that if we're trying to fit three players into a schedule that won't start until 8:00 PM on a weeknight -- in a space with minimal accommodations, no less -- then things could run awfully late and get a wee bit uncomfortable for everyone there. If we think about this general timetable: 8:00 - 8:30: Myself 8:40 - 9:40: Ric Hordiski 9:50 - 10:50: Steve Lawson (give or take) then we only have twenty minutes of "dead time" within a three-hour concert. I also predict that some people (including the performers) may want to take the between-set times and get fresh air, talk, answer the call of nature, etc. Not exactly a great opportunity for the "absentee artists" to have their work seriously listened to. (Remember that this is basically going to be a bunch of people hanging out in a warehouse-type space, as opposed to a "sit-down" concert environment or a club). Maybe we could set up a preliminary 7:00 - 8:00 "pre-gig" period for people to arrive, hang out, meet face-to-face (always an interesting time for an Internet-organized gig), and have some "guest recordings" playing during that time. People could listen to the other CDs if they like, and we could be all set to go at 8:00 PM. Beyond that, could I ask anyone who wants to contribute a CD to be played at the show to think in terms of choosing a reasonably concise selection, just so we could try and fit as many folks into the playlist as reasonably possible? We all know how long the loop-type songs can run for... -- Could we ask everyone who attends to try to bring some sort of folding chair/pillow/something, so we stand a good chance of getting folks accommodated? -- Can Steve, Tony, Ric, and myself be at the performance space by 5:30 or so? Earlier might be even better, if possible... I'm thinking in terms of getting gear set up, patched into the mixer, and some basic soundchecking (NEVER an easy thing when it comes to most looping gigs!) If need be, my suggestion would be to bump the "pre-show" period up to 7:30 or so in order to leave enough time for soundcheck and organization to happen. And again, I say, "HMMMMMMMMMM...." OK, --Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 14:51:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19167; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:49:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:49:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B30EFF5.C00DA29A@altruistmusic.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:48:22 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS References: <20010619.222905.-73019.5.tony-moore@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-ok2WD.A.QrE.wAPM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com O people of possible gig attendance, In order to try to gauge how many folks will be there, please reply to this message if you're planning on attending the gig. The (tentative) details: LA LOOP FESTE I Thursday, June 28, 2001 Doors open at 7pm (more or less) Live music starts at 8:00 359 East Magnolia St Suite E Burbank, CA 91501 818-848-2057 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 15:11:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20944; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:09:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:09:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:08:58 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3B30EFF5.C00DA29A@altruistmusic.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'll be there Honest I'm the one with the peace sign on his forehead (no kidding) Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 15:31:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21379; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:30:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:30:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.116.240] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Chicago loopers.... Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:29:02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2001 19:29:03.0281 (UTC) FILETIME=[437E8A10:01C0F9BF] Resent-Message-ID: <0iEvQD.A.1NF.fmPM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I am the MASTER Chicago Looper/Dj / ReMix Arist / Producer ! From the Southside of Chi-Town...... I might just check you guys out, then hit Hangee Uppee's afterward !

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From: Bruce Satinover
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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Chicago loopers....
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:55:08 -0700 (PDT)
Hello,
just thought I'd check to see if there's any loopers
on this list in the Chicago area?
Also, my band X Space is playing June 23rd at:
The Nervous Center
4612 N. Lincoln Ave.
Chicago, IL
773-728-5010
The show starts 10:00 PM with Miles Tilmann.
X Space includes yours truly on 5 and 6 string
guitars, multiple loopers and synthesizer. Our music
style varies per gig as we improvise exclusively. In
genereal it is somewhere between early 70's electronic
with guitar. We should be starting around 11:15 PM.
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 15:49:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21767; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:47:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:47:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B30FDB8.562CD2A5@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:47:04 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Loop based injuries References: <06A9F7A44D8BD411AE0E009027DE4F3546392F@mars.plantronics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey gang, reading about people's experience with TMJ made me think of my own RSI injury. A few months ago, I started having intense back/shoulder pain coupled with numbness in my hands and general pain of my arms. As a guitarist and multimedia designer, it pretty much put me out of commission. I tried everything from yoga to physical therapy and rest, but with little or no results. Finally, I read "Healing Back Pain" by Dr. John Sarno. It completely cured me of all the pain and limitations. It also totally changed my ideas of how my body works, and how feeble traditional medicine is when it comes to RSI and TMJ. His books are available from Amazon in traditional or downloadable form. I highly recommend them to anyone who is having issues with almost all types of non bacterial or viral illnesses. Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 15:58:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22072; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:56:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:56:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <012401c0f9c3$854674e0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <06A9F7A44D8BD411AE0E009027DE4F3546392F@mars.plantronics.com> <3B30FDB8.562CD2A5@zerocrossing.net> Subject: OT: Sony C1 PitureBook users? Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:59:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anyone using this small wonder? I'm dreaming of live performance with sequences in Acid midi-synced to external gear etc- http://www.sonystyle.com/vaio/picturebook/index.html Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 16:01:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22213; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:58:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:58:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:03:25 -0700 Subject: Re: LA Loop Fest - Latest Developments... Message-ID: <20010620.130326.271.6.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-3,13-14,16-17,19-20,24-30,32-110 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com alright andre! you beat me to it! all this sounds great to me. i'm actually planning on setting the pa up and making the room presentable on tuesday night. btw, it's not a warehouse space, but rather a big empty office with high(er) cielings. there is a smaller office attached to the 'feste room' that could serve as a place to sell product (if needed), maybe put some refreshments, cases and such. the entry foyer to my building also has a bathroom. oh, and my unit is air conditioned :-) i do want to reiterate that this is a small space. as i said before, maybe 20-25 people can fit in the feste room. and please be forgiving with the appearance. it'll eventually be a laboratory/studio, but it's just empty now... bringing a pillow or small chair to sit in would be cool, as only a few will be there. i can be there by 6pm to finalize the setup and soundcheck. tho' if you want to get there earlier, i can get you a key. the only thing left is the admission price/donation. i know everyone's economics is different, so i'm open to suggestion. how about a $5 admission and then we can still have a donation box for those who want to give more? later, tony On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:44:36 -0700 Andre LaFosse writes: > OK, Hmmmm. > > Concerns about start time are valid; I wouldn't object to an 8:00 > PM > start time as long as it doesn't cause a lot of hassles for the > actual set. > > Speaking of which, here's a couple of things that occur to me: > > -- Playing CDs of people between the live acts is a very cool idea, > but I can't help thinking that the priority should be placed on the > performers there. I say this with all possible respect to everyone > who might be wanting to have their music played between live > performances, but it seems to me that if we're trying to fit three > players into a schedule that won't start until 8:00 PM on a > weeknight > -- in a space with minimal accommodations, no less -- then things > could run awfully late and get a wee bit uncomfortable for everyone > there. > > If we think about this general timetable: > > 8:00 - 8:30: Myself > > 8:40 - 9:40: Ric Hordiski > > 9:50 - 10:50: Steve Lawson > > (give or take) > > then we only have twenty minutes of "dead time" within a three-hour > concert. I also predict that some people (including the performers) > may want to take the between-set times and get fresh air, talk, > answer > the call of nature, etc. Not exactly a great opportunity for the > "absentee artists" to have their work seriously listened to. > (Remember that this is basically going to be a bunch of people > hanging > out in a warehouse-type space, as opposed to a "sit-down" concert > environment or a club). > > Maybe we could set up a preliminary 7:00 - 8:00 "pre-gig" period for > people to arrive, hang out, meet face-to-face (always an interesting > time for an Internet-organized gig), and have some "guest > recordings" > playing during that time. People could listen to the other CDs if > they like, and we could be all set to go at 8:00 PM. > > Beyond that, could I ask anyone who wants to contribute a CD to be > played at the show to think in terms of choosing a reasonably > concise > selection, just so we could try and fit as many folks into the > playlist as reasonably possible? We all know how long the loop-type > songs can run for... > > -- Could we ask everyone who attends to try to bring some sort of > folding chair/pillow/something, so we stand a good chance of getting > folks accommodated? > > -- Can Steve, Tony, Ric, and myself be at the performance space by > 5:30 or so? Earlier might be even better, if possible... I'm > thinking in terms of getting gear set up, patched into the mixer, > and > some basic soundchecking (NEVER an easy thing when it comes to most > looping gigs!) > > If need be, my suggestion would be to bump the "pre-show" period up > to > 7:30 or so in order to leave enough time for soundcheck and > organization to happen. > > And again, I say, "HMMMMMMMMMM...." > > OK, > > --Andre LaFosse > http://www.altruistmusic.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 16:16:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23681; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:12:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:12:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:11:42 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2001 20:11:43.0115 (UTC) FILETIME=[394635B0:01C0F9C5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am planning on being there, and I will pro'lly have one guest with me. >From: Andre LaFosse >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:48:22 -0700 > >O people of possible gig attendance, > >In order to try to gauge how many folks will be there, please reply to >this message if you're planning on attending the gig. > >The (tentative) details: > >LA LOOP FESTE I >Thursday, June 28, 2001 >Doors open at 7pm (more or less) >Live music starts at 8:00 >359 East Magnolia St >Suite E >Burbank, CA 91501 >818-848-2057 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 16:37:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24098; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:35:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:35:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010620203523.40658.qmail@web14003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:35:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Martin Subject: Re: Chicago/midwest loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I'm in Kalamazoo, which isn't quite Chicago, but is a lot closer to it than LA. I know there are loopy folks in the Indiana/Ohio area - maybe we need a tri-state midwest loopaganza? Note - I am NOT currently volunteering to organize this! =) later, Scott ===== And if it's up to us to bring some balance back Let it not be said it's courage that we lack -Gaia Consort, "Cry Freedom" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 16:44:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24283; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:42:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:42:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B310994.A592DEC6@fullcompass.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:37:40 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Midwest Loopalooza References: <20010620203523.40658.qmail@web14003.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Id be down with a Loopalooza. I live in the Milwaukee area. Scott Martin wrote: > > Well, I'm in Kalamazoo, which isn't quite Chicago, but > is a lot closer to it than LA. I know there are loopy > folks in the Indiana/Ohio area - maybe we need a > tri-state midwest loopaganza? Note - I am NOT > currently volunteering to organize this! =) > > later, > Scott > > ===== > And if it's up to us to bring some balance back > Let it not be said it's courage that we lack > > -Gaia Consort, "Cry Freedom" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 17:10:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26605; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:08:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:08:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4CE7@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Chicago/midwest loopers Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:08:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com bloomington or indianapolis ,in denis denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Martin [mailto:coirbidh_99@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:35 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Chicago/midwest loopers Well, I'm in Kalamazoo, which isn't quite Chicago, but is a lot closer to it than LA. I know there are loopy folks in the Indiana/Ohio area - maybe we need a tri-state midwest loopaganza? _ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 17:27:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27086; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:25:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:25:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB37F@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:24:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0F9CF.554D9C30" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F9CF.554D9C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" i'm gonna try - - what with kids and all it can get rough getting out of the house. what's the cross street? stig -----Original Message----- From: Andre LaFosse [mailto:altruist@altruistmusic.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:48 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS O people of possible gig attendance, In order to try to gauge how many folks will be there, please reply to this message if you're planning on attending the gig. The (tentative) details: LA LOOP FESTE I Thursday, June 28, 2001 Doors open at 7pm (more or less) Live music starts at 8:00 359 East Magnolia St Suite E Burbank, CA 91501 818-848-2057 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F9CF.554D9C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS

i'm gonna try - - what with kids and all it can get rough getting out of the house.

what's the cross street?

stig

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre LaFosse [mailto:altruist@altruistmusic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:48 AM
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O people of possible gig attendance,

In order to try to gauge how many folks will be there, please reply to
this message if you're planning on attending the gig. 

The (tentative) details:

LA LOOP FESTE I
Thursday, June 28, 2001
Doors open at 7pm (more or less)
Live music starts at 8:00
359 East Magnolia St
Suite E
Burbank, CA 91501
818-848-2057

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0F9CF.554D9C30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 17:34:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27303; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:32:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:32:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:36:50 -0700 Subject: Re: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS Message-ID: <20010620.143651.271.8.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,5-13,15-46 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey stig! it's between san fernando and glenoaks, just east of the media center. it's on the second floor above a little cafe called lilly's. there's a little alley with a small parking lot behind. you can access my suite in the rear and then up the stairs to the left. gimme a shout if you have any trouble or need better directions. see you soon! tony 818/563-6514 On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:24:05 -0400 "Liebig, Steuart A." writes: > i'm gonna try - - what with kids and all it can get rough getting out > of the > house. > > what's the cross street? > > stig > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andre LaFosse [mailto:altruist@altruistmusic.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:48 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS > > > O people of possible gig attendance, > > In order to try to gauge how many folks will be there, please reply > to > this message if you're planning on attending the gig. > > The (tentative) details: > > LA LOOP FESTE I > Thursday, June 28, 2001 > Doors open at 7pm (more or less) > Live music starts at 8:00 > 359 East Magnolia St > Suite E > Burbank, CA 91501 > 818-848-2057 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 17:37:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27455; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:35:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:35:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010620213522.30063.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Re:Chicago loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <1I_JJC.A.WsG.icRM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> Yeah, I think there are a few of us. Can you say >> Chicago loopfest? I sure can. We have one of the most open music scenes around, can you say Tortoise? :) Anyone else? SHAMELESS PLUG: See real live looping Saturday June 23rd 10:00 - ??? 4612 N. Lincoln Ave, Chicago, Il. 773-728-5010 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 17:43:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27646; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:41:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:41:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010620214120.31318.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:41:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Chicago loopers.... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Devious D, we are downsizing our setup but I used to spin- you might not like this- dual CDs which was mixed with the realtime instruments. For those that care the CDs I spun were beats and soundscapes the band or I created. You haven't lived if you're a keyboard player and you loop on the fly, it's like a realtime sequencer. Hope you make it. Bruce From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Chicago loopers.... I am the MASTER Chicago Looper/Dj / ReMix Arist / Producer ! From the Southside of Chi-Town...... I might just check you guys out, then hit Hangee Uppee's afterward ! ----Original Message Follows---- Hello, just thought I'd check to see if there's any loopers on this list in the Chicago area? Also, my band X Space is playing June 23rd at: The Nervous Center 4612 N. Lincoln Ave. Chicago, IL 773-728-5010 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 17:55:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27961; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:52:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:52:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:50:43 -0700 Subject: LA loop fest From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>-- Can Steve, Tony, Ric, and myself be at the performance space by 5:30 or so? Earlier might be even better, if possible... I'm thinking in terms of getting gear set up, patched into the mixer, and some basic soundchecking (NEVER an easy thing when it comes to most looping gigs!)<<< All the ideas from Tony and Andre are fab - I can be there by 5.30 if neccesary, but I only take about 10 minutes (actually less with my touring set up) to set up... I'm really looking forward to meeting y'all... Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 18:15:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29383; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:12:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:12:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c0f9d6$32e415a0$056978c7@0017470167> From: "Q" To: References: <20010620214120.31318.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Yo Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:13:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm just wondering if anyone here uses Steinbergers...or, if anyone uses those Fernandes Sustainer guitars. I thought it'd be something worth looking into..so, if anyone has either of these, tell me what kind and if you like them. I love my Steinberger Spirit! -Andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 18:36:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29849; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:35:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:35:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:39:03 -0700 Subject: Re: LA loop fest Message-ID: <20010620.153904.271.13.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-3,5-23 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i won't be able to get there until 6pm. everything sounds fun! tony On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:50:43 -0700 Steve Lawson writes: > >>>-- Can Steve, Tony, Ric, and myself be at the performance space by > 5:30 or so? Earlier might be even better, if possible... I'm > thinking in terms of getting gear set up, patched into the mixer, > and > some basic soundchecking (NEVER an easy thing when it comes to most > looping gigs!)<<< > > All the ideas from Tony and Andre are fab - I can be there by 5.30 > if > neccesary, but I only take about 10 minutes (actually less with my > touring > set up) to set up... > > I'm really looking forward to meeting y'all... > > Steve > www.steve-lawson.co.uk > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 19:23:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31479; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:22:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:22:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:22:05 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <01dd01c0f9df$d1d5b200$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <200106190409.VAA05850@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com was this room eliptical? this sounds like what happens if you position yourself and another person at the two focal points of an eliptical room... (all first order reflections arrive in phase) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? > this is really ot but here in sf,cali there is that wacky place called 'the > exploratorium' where there all these exhibits of weird and wonderful manmade > and natural phenomenon and one of them is these two chairs that sit across > from each other aprox.50ft. or so(maybe not that far!) and you are to sit in > them and talk to each other in a normal voice and thru all the cacaphony of > the place which is more like a warehouse and echoey as hell w/ alotta kid > and people,the person at the other chair can hear you perfectly and you can > have a conversation as if there was no one else around-how is it done?no > idea-but there is a kinda acoustic cone that is actually the chair and i > guess that sends the voices i dont know,kinda sorry i brought it up...but it > would be great for restaraunts of which you speak! > > stanner > ---------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 19:32:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31645; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:31:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:31:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:30:05 +0100 Subject: Re: Yo From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000b01c0f9d6$32e415a0$056978c7@0017470167> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I use a Fernandes Sustainer sometimes. It's a Retro Rocket (Strat copy) I got it for around $400 on ebay. It's Korean made, ok quality for the $, I only use it for the sustainer function but the sustainer is a thing of beauty. Way too much fun and very usable for a multitude of stuff. Constant sustaining clean or distorted notes or chords, smooth consistent sustain too, the system really works. The only drag on mine is that when the sustainer is engaged you can only use the bridge pickup. Fernandes are plentiful second hand and usually a bargain. You can buy the pickup system separately but it's expensive and requires extensive wiring to fit (I heard that a complete rewire was needed but that might just be crazy talk) Martin Shellard > From: "Q" > > I'm just wondering if anyone here uses Steinbergers...or, if anyone uses > those Fernandes Sustainer guitars. I thought it'd be something worth looking > into..so, if anyone has either of these, tell me what kind and if you like > them. > > > -Andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 19:56:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA32357; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:55:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:55:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:54:03 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Subject: Re: Yo - Sustainers... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id TAA32326 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Fernandes are plentiful second hand and usually a bargain. You can buy the pickup system separately but it's expensive and requires extensive wiring to fit (I heard that a complete rewire was needed but that might just be crazy talk) Martin Shellard It's no exaggeration... it's a very intrusive rewire... plus some routing probably. Nice to have new pickups with long wires so you don't have to get into splicing stuff... (unless you're way capable with the iron...) >> I'm just wondering if anyone here uses Steinbergers...or, if anyone uses those Fernandes Sustainer guitars. I thought it'd be something worth looking into..so, if anyone has either of these, tell me what kind and if you like them. -Andy I love my sustainer system... Mine's a Sustainiac Stealth. It was $225 new, uninstalled... I had a local tech do the final install and I did the routing on my guitar body... which was a pain, but I learned a lot doing it... It was a completely new build for me, and I wanted a sustainer badly... The Stealth Plus is a smaller circuit board which fits in the trem cavity on a strat... maybe that's the hot way to go these days. Mine works really well and has both fundamental and harmonic mode... You have to get used to the way it works to really integrate it smoothly into your playing, but there's loads you can do with it immediately as well. http://www.sustainiac.com/ I had a couple problems due to the installation and ended up sending my guitar body minus the neck to Alan for him to really get it fine tuned. It's been great since. It's been worth every penny... Best, -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 20:01:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01256; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:00:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:00:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010620195822.007bc100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:58:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Yo In-Reply-To: <000b01c0f9d6$32e415a0$056978c7@0017470167> References: <20010620214120.31318.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <-DqXj.A.ZT.IkTM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yep, I use a GT-Pro quite often. A lot of loopers like small, headless guitars because when our hands are off the instrument and are manipulating mixers and assorted knobs, long-necked axes tend to swing around and wipe out the mic stand and stuff. There's a pretty good Steiny thread in the list archives from approximately late 1999 that you might find interesting. There've been sustainer threads too, and Sustainiac... Tim At 05:13 PM 6/20/01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm just wondering if anyone here uses Steinbergers...or, if anyone uses >those Fernandes Sustainer guitars. I thought it'd be something worth looking >into..so, if anyone has either of these, tell me what kind and if you like >them. > >I love my Steinberger Spirit! > >-Andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 20:16:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01704; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:15:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:15:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106210013.RAA07507@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:22:32 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Exploratorium is not elliptical, it is just a long, large warehouse-like hall with lots of things on display. It is a very noisy environment with lots of people and kids talking and moving about. The chairs look like big open eggs, made of concrete I think, and have an elliptical back. They sit some 50 feet apart directly across from each other and the space between is usually cluttered with people and noise. I don't know the physics but I would guess the hard curved back surface of the chair makes a focal point and the sound generated inside the chair is focused onto the other chair. The noise from the hall itself is reduced significantly inside the chair which makes it a very nice spot to sit. The Exploratorium is a wonderful place to go and see kids (and adults) doing playful unsupervised hands-on science. They do not have a loop display per se but they usually have some pretty cool music related things. I usually go twice a year and have a blast. -Allan ---------- >From: jim palmer >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? >Date: Wed, Jun 20, 2001, 4:22 PM > > was this room eliptical? > > this sounds like what happens if you position yourself > and another person at the two focal points of an eliptical room... > (all first order reflections arrive in phase) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:11 PM > Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? > > >> this is really ot but here in sf,cali there is that wacky place called 'the >> exploratorium' where there all these exhibits of weird and wonderful manmade >> and natural phenomenon and one of them is these two chairs that sit across >> from each other aprox.50ft. or so(maybe not that far!) and you are to sit in >> them and talk to each other in a normal voice and thru all the cacaphony of >> the place which is more like a warehouse and echoey as hell w/ alotta kid >> and people,the person at the other chair can hear you perfectly and you can >> have a conversation as if there was no one else around-how is it done?no >> idea-but there is a kinda acoustic cone that is actually the chair and i >> guess that sends the voices i dont know,kinda sorry i brought it up...but it >> would be great for restaraunts of which you speak! >> >> stanner >> ---------- > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 20:24:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01950; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:23:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:23:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: <12b.542b93.2862985d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:22:53 EDT Subject: Re: Where can I buy an echoplex ? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Alto Music has them From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 20:34:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02209; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:33:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:33:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <69.16f80d40.28629a9f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:32:31 EDT Subject: Re: LA Loop Fest - Latest Developments... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_69.16f80d40.28629a9f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_69.16f80d40.28629a9f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/20/01 3:59:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tony-moore@juno.com writes: > . how about a $5 > admission and then we can still have a donation box for those who want to > give more? > hey tony!.....what address can i send money to from pittsburgh?.....if i cant show up, i always like to send some scoot.....right!.....:).....michael p.s. the recordings of this event will be available to all? --part1_69.16f80d40.28629a9f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/20/01 3:59:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tony-moore@juno.com writes:


. how about a $5
admission and then we can still have a donation box for those who want to
give more?


hey tony!.....what address can i send money to from pittsburgh?.....if i cant
show up, i always like to send some scoot.....right!.....:).....michael
p.s. the recordings of this event will be available to all? --part1_69.16f80d40.28629a9f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 20:34:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02213; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:33:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:33:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010620183508.007c9540@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:35:08 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Yo In-Reply-To: <000b01c0f9d6$32e415a0$056978c7@0017470167> References: <20010620214120.31318.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Andy, I play a Steinberger GL-2-T, and REALLY REALLY REALLY love it!!! What kind of info/feedback is it, that you're looking for about it? I also know someone who uses a fernandes sustainer (pickup, not the guitar) as well, so lemme' know what it is you'd like to know? K? Smiles, Goddess At 05:13 PM 6/20/01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm just wondering if anyone here uses Steinbergers...or, if anyone uses >those Fernandes Sustainer guitars. I thought it'd be something worth looking >into..so, if anyone has either of these, tell me what kind and if you like >them. > >I love my Steinberger Spirit! > >-Andy > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 20:35:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02249; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:34:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:34:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004801c0f9ea$350ecdc0$119b4e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: OT: Personal Audio Space? Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:36:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Allan wrote:>The Exploratorium is a wonderful place to go and see kids (and adults) doing >playful unsupervised hands-on science. They do not have a loop display per >se but they usually have some pretty cool music related things. I'll second that! A terrific place to go if you have some free time when in the Bay Area. It even has free admission on Wednesdays. As Allan mentioned, there are many very cool music and sound-related exhibits, and everything is hands-on. http://www.exploratorium.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 20:47:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02768; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:45:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:45:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B314391.39801736@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:45:07 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Yo References: <20010620214120.31318.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> <000b01c0f9d6$32e415a0$056978c7@0017470167> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <67yw9B.A.hq.VOUM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have a Steinburger 6 string. The kind with the wood body, active EMGs and TransTrem. I LOVE IT. It's only setback, I must say, is that I've been doing a lot of Synth Guitar since I purchased a GR-30. The GK-2a does not fit between the bridge humbucker and the bridge. I still use it a bit, but I'm thinking of selling it and purchasing one of the bodiless models which has sufficient space to mount the pickup. Every time I think of doing routing (It's ONLY a millimeter or two off!) to my precious baby, I cringe! I love that all the strings stay in tune relative to each other with the transtrem. Very cool. Q wrote: > I'm just wondering if anyone here uses Steinbergers...or, if anyone uses > those Fernandes Sustainer guitars. I thought it'd be something worth looking > into..so, if anyone has either of these, tell me what kind and if you like > them. > > I love my Steinberger Spirit! > > -Andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 20:48:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02771; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:45:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:45:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:37:51 -0700 Subject: Cage on sounds in your head [another view of tinitus] From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The BBC site has a summary of a documentary they're running on Radio4 on experimental music. There's a few audio clips of interviews, one of which is with John Cage telling the story of his first visit to Harvard's anechoic chamber, which to his surpise didn't *sound* silent when he was in it. You can listen to the Realaudio clip if you'd like, but for the bandwidth-limited, he told one of the Harvard guys that something was wrong with the "silent" room, because he heard two sounds in it--one very high, the other very low. Harvard's answer was that the high tone was the sound of his nervous system, and the low tone was that of his circulatory system. http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/experimental.shtml TH -- NEW official Electrochakra website: http://www.electrochakra.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 21:16:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04511; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:15:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:15:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <125.95ef23.2862a466@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:14:14 EDT Subject: tour spam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey alls... pardon me while I digress; be looping and in general funking it up via guitar with the TomTom Club on some dates in the NorthEast US this summer. gigs as follows. best to all, Robby Aceto Tom Tom Club Summer Jams Tour June 28th New York City Jammy Awards Roseland Ballroom June 29th Amagansett, NY Stephen Talkhouse 8:00 show June 30th Red Hook, NY Gathering Of The Vibes 1:30 afternoon show All Ages July 1st Hoboken, NJ Maxwell's All Ages July 3rd Baltimore, MD Paloma's July 5th Philadelphia, PA Theater of Living Arts w/ Echo and the Bunnymen The Rosenbergs July 6th Washington D.C. 9:30 Club All ages w/ Echo and the Bunnymen The Rosenbergs July7th Great Barrington, MA Club Helsinki July 9th Burlington, VT Higher Ground July 11th Portland, ME Stone Coast Brewery July 13th Niagara Falls, NY Evening Star Music Hall July 15th Detroit, MI Chene Park Concert Of Colors w/ George Clinton and Cibo Matto TBA: Toronto, Boston, Buffalo... others. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 21:31:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05055; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:30:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:30:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:29:34 EDT Subject: Re: tour spam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e6.1733ecfd.2862a7fe_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e6.1733ecfd.2862a7fe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/20/01 9:14:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RA336@aol.com writes: > TomTom Club on > some dates in the NorthEast US this summer. > robby.....pittsburgh perhaps?.....michael --part1_e6.1733ecfd.2862a7fe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/20/01 9:14:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RA336@aol.com
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TomTom Club on
some dates in the NorthEast US this summer.


robby.....pittsburgh perhaps?.....michael --part1_e6.1733ecfd.2862a7fe_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 22:50:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07525; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:48:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:48:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00b601c0f9fd$70283820$5b122818@norr1.pa.home.com> From: "Andrew Wing" To: References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010620124632.00a3cdd0@mail.pdfsystems.com> Subject: Re: reel to reel thing Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:54:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A couple of approaches to try for an old reel: - Ebay. Reel to reel recorders crop up there all the time, old Akai's, Technics, etc. If you're willing to spend for a decent used or reconditioned unit. - If you're handy with repairs, there are places like Parts Express and MCM Electronics that stock a decent variety of belts, idler tires, etc. - "rubber rejuvenator", also stocked by PE/MCM. This worked quite well on my dad's 25 year old Akai. HTH! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 23:20:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA09113; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:19:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:19:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.115.24] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Chicago loopers..And ReMixing ? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:18:29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2001 03:18:29.0822 (UTC) FILETIME=[D80F9DE0:01C0FA00] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I am no longer a "purest", when it comes to mixin'. I don't use dual CD's, but I do use the Numark DMC 1, with PCdj Red hooked up to my PC. I do all my remixes and save them to MP3, then I use the DMC 1 to mix them up. It's kinda like using the Dual CD's, except thtat I am using remixes that I have redone in ReCyCle and ACID.

My 1200's have been resting for about 2 months, since I remix straight from the digital source (CD's, MP3's that were ripped from CD's , etc.).

Peace and Hair Grease.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Bruce Satinover
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Chicago loopers....
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:41:19 -0700 (PDT)
Devious D,
we are downsizing our setup but I used to spin-
you might not like this- dual CDs which was mixed
with the realtime instruments.
For those that care the CDs I spun were beats
and soundscapes the band or I created.
You haven't lived if you're a keyboard player and
you loop on the fly, it's like a realtime sequencer.
Hope you make it.
Bruce
From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Chicago loopers....
I am the MASTER Chicago Looper/Dj / ReMix Arist /
Producer ! From the Southside of Chi-Town...... I
might just check you guys out, then hit Hangee Uppee's
afterward !
----Original Message Follows----
Hello,
just thought I'd check to see if there's any loopers
on this list in the Chicago area?
Also, my band X Space is playing June 23rd at:
The Nervous Center
4612 N. Lincoln Ave.
Chicago, IL
773-728-5010
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 23:28:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA09488; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:25:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:25:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003801c0fa02$029e9600$056978c7@0017470167> From: "Q" To: References: <20010620214120.31318.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> <3.0.5.32.20010620183508.007c9540@mail.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Yo Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:26:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've just sort of noticed that a lot of loopers use Steinbergers and/or Klein guitars... I must thank my guitar instructor, if he reads this, for getting me to buy one! My Steinberger has some Dimarzio pick-ups in it, but i'm not sure which ones. Just wondering where you can get the higher end models...and if it's possible to get a sustainer pick-up installed in a Steinberger Spirit (basically like the ones they got at Musicyo.com , I forget the actually model name). I was wondering also about the sustainer stuff...I was wondering if the actual sustainer guitars are any good. I'm totally in love with the steinberger neck...since I'm thinking MOST steinbergers have the same size neck... what size is it? I just love it so much. Oh! One last thing...any good bands that use sustainers and loopers or anything like that? Always wondering! -Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Goddess To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Yo > Andy, I play a Steinberger GL-2-T, and REALLY REALLY REALLY love it!!! > What kind of info/feedback is it, that you're looking for about it? I also > know someone who uses a fernandes sustainer (pickup, not the guitar) as > well, so lemme' know what it is you'd like to know? K? > > Smiles, > > Goddess > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 20 23:57:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA10026; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:56:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:56:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:56:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Cage on sounds in your head [another view of tinitus] From: David Myers To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A few years back I took a poll of friends and acquaintances (and even this list) concerning this question; the varied responses I received were quite interesting. There are certainly "sourceless" sounds present in the organism which have nothing to do with ear damage, and I have often referred my friends to Cage's observation. My conclusion is that, apart from tinitus--which must certainly be very real and problematic for certain people--there are interior sounds which always exist. They are probably, as Harvard had it, the nervous system and circulatory system--and a few things else besides. In very quiet environments I have been able to detect at least these bands and perhaps also a third which I almost want to describe as "muscular". People familiar with meditative practice seem most inclined to know of these sounds, but even the most quiet and introspective individuals sometimes profess complete ignorance of them. It is a bit of a puzzle. I even see in myself that at times I hear the sounds and at other times do not; it depends on where my attention is focused. If I actively look for the sound, it is there. Most curiously: men report the awareness of this much more often than women! David Lee Myers on 6/20/01 8:37 PM, Travis Hartnett at tiktok@sprintmail.com wrote: > The BBC site has a summary of a documentary they're running on Radio4 on > experimental music. There's a few audio clips of interviews, one of which > is with John Cage telling the story of his first visit to Harvard's anechoic > chamber, which to his surpise didn't *sound* silent when he was in it. You > can listen to the Realaudio clip if you'd like, but for the > bandwidth-limited, he told one of the Harvard guys that something was wrong > with the "silent" room, because he heard two sounds in it--one very high, > the other very low. Harvard's answer was that the high tone was the sound > of his nervous system, and the low tone was that of his circulatory system. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/experimental.shtml > > > TH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 00:22:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA11656; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:21:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:21:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3176B3.20DA78D8@minds-eye.org> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:23:16 -0700 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: sounds in your head [another view of tinitus] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What I always found most interesting in meditation were those moments when I would be jolted by the sound of very loud gong-like tones. They sounded identical to 'real' sounds out in the world but they came only from inside my head. It always struck me as an example of the brain/mind's power to recreate sensorially 'real' experiences with no external stimulus (much like dreaming). If only I could tap THAT as my primary instrument :-) Its like Hendrix said once (and I paraphrase) "Its such a drag playing with these strings and all so tonight I'm just going to play like they're not there" Kevin David Myers wrote: > A few years back I took a poll of friends and acquaintances (and even this > list) concerning this question; the varied responses I received were quite > interesting. There are certainly "sourceless" sounds present in the > organism which have nothing to do with ear damage, and I have often referred > my friends to Cage's observation. My conclusion is that, apart from > tinitus--which must certainly be very real and problematic for certain > people--there are interior sounds which always exist. They are probably, as > Harvard had it, the nervous system and circulatory system--and a few things > else besides. In very quiet environments I have been able to detect at > least these bands and perhaps also a third which I almost want to describe > as "muscular". People familiar with meditative practice seem most inclined > to know of these sounds, but even the most quiet and introspective > individuals sometimes profess complete ignorance of them. It is a bit of a > puzzle. I even see in myself that at times I hear the sounds and at other > times do not; it depends on where my attention is focused. If I actively > look for the sound, it is there. Most curiously: men report the awareness > of this much more often than women! > > David Lee Myers > > on 6/20/01 8:37 PM, Travis Hartnett at tiktok@sprintmail.com wrote: > > > The BBC site has a summary of a documentary they're running on Radio4 on > > experimental music. There's a few audio clips of interviews, one of which > > is with John Cage telling the story of his first visit to Harvard's anechoic > > chamber, which to his surpise didn't *sound* silent when he was in it. You > > can listen to the Realaudio clip if you'd like, but for the > > bandwidth-limited, he told one of the Harvard guys that something was wrong > > with the "silent" room, because he heard two sounds in it--one very high, > > the other very low. Harvard's answer was that the high tone was the sound > > of his nervous system, and the low tone was that of his circulatory system. > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/experimental.shtml > > > > > > TH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 00:38:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA12040; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:37:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:37:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3109B0.84F6673A@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:38:09 +0000 From: joe & sheila Reply-To: onelonecrow@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS References: <20010619.222905.-73019.5.tony-moore@juno.com> <3B30EFF5.C00DA29A@altruistmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Count me in ( if traffic allows ). I'll have at least one guest, maybe two. See ya, joe Andre LaFosse wrote: > O people of possible gig attendance, > > In order to try to gauge how many folks will be there, please reply to > this message if you're planning on attending the gig. > > The (tentative) details: > > LA LOOP FESTE I > Thursday, June 28, 2001 > Doors open at 7pm (more or less) > Live music starts at 8:00 > 359 East Magnolia St > Suite E > Burbank, CA 91501 > 818-848-2057 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 02:24:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA16314; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:20:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:20:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009401c0fa19$eb502b40$141428d5@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: , "Looper's Delight" References: Subject: Re: Cage on sounds in your head [another view of tinitus] Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:13:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > The BBC site has a summary of a documentary they're running on Radio4 on > experimental music. There's a few audio clips of interviews, one of which > is with John Cage telling the story of his first visit to Harvard's anechoic > chamber, which to his surpise didn't *sound* silent when he was in it. You > can listen to the Realaudio clip if you'd like, but for the > bandwidth-limited, he told one of the Harvard guys that something was wrong > with the "silent" room, because he heard two sounds in it--one very high, > the other very low. Harvard's answer was that the high tone was the sound > of his nervous system, and the low tone was that of his circulatory system. Trouble is, he then went on to describe these sounds as music -thereby hangs a very long tail...... I always think of a prison with a toilet in it when I hear his name... Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 02:24:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA16189; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:19:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:19:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009501c0fa19$ebe73b20$141428d5@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: Subject: Re: Sustainers... Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:17:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just took delivery of a stealth system. I've just made a start on installing it. Hopefully it'll be running by the weekend. If it's all it's cranked up to be I'll be raving about it next week! Gareth > > Fernandes are plentiful second hand and usually a bargain. You can buy the pickup system separately but it's expensive and requires extensive wiring to fit (I heard that a complete rewire was needed but that might just be crazy talk) Martin Shellard > > It's no exaggeration... it's a very intrusive rewire... plus some routing probably. Nice to have new pickups with long wires so you don't have to get into splicing stuff... (unless you're way capable with the iron...) > > >> I'm just wondering if anyone here uses Steinbergers...or, if anyone uses those Fernandes Sustainer guitars. I thought it'd be something worth looking into..so, if anyone has either of these, tell me what kind and if you like them. -Andy > > I love my sustainer system... Mine's a Sustainiac Stealth. It was $225 new, uninstalled... I had a local tech do the final install and I did the routing on my guitar body... which was a pain, but I learned a lot doing it... It was a completely new build for me, and I wanted a sustainer badly... The Stealth Plus is a smaller circuit board which fits in the trem cavity on a strat... maybe that's the hot way to go these days. > > Mine works really well and has both fundamental and harmonic mode... You have to get used to the way it works to really integrate it smoothly into your playing, but there's loads you can do with it immediately as well. > > http://www.sustainiac.com/ > > I had a couple problems due to the installation and ended up sending my guitar body minus the neck to Alan for him to really get it fine tuned. It's been great since. It's been worth every penny... > > Best, > -Miko > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 03:32:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18454; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:30:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:30:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010621072942.68367.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:29:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: Re: Yo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <4FjgT.A.3fE.nJaM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I use a Fernandes Revolver Pro, ok build, the sustainer system is the reason to buy it, it is a useful guitar although I use it mostly for the sustainer circuit and as a back up. The sustainer is great, infinite sustain and harmonic sustain (controlled feeback), well worth looking into. Bruce S. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 04:34:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA20816; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:33:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:33:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Where can I buy an echoplex ? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:31:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com We've been asking Gibson to send us details of Echoplex stockists in the US. Here are the first few:- East Coast...Alto Music in Middletown, NY # 845-692-6922 Midwest...Sweetwater Sound in Ft Wayne, In # 800-222-4700 West Coast...LA Music Service (just outside of Los Angeles, CA) # 310-787-0123 > -----Original Message----- > From: JHKNICKS@aol.com [mailto:JHKNICKS@aol.com] > Sent: 21 June 2001 01:23 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > > > Alto Music has them > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 04:38:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA21159; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:37:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:37:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000d01c0fa2e$08aeffe0$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: Subject: Re: Where can I buy an echoplex ? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 01:41:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com IMO you should get it from Alto- they are great- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Ewen To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 1:31 AM Subject: RE: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > We've been asking Gibson to send us details of Echoplex stockists in the US. > Here are the first few:- > > East Coast...Alto Music in Middletown, NY # 845-692-6922 > Midwest...Sweetwater Sound in Ft Wayne, In # 800-222-4700 > West Coast...LA Music Service (just outside of Los Angeles, CA) # > 310-787-0123 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JHKNICKS@aol.com [mailto:JHKNICKS@aol.com] > > Sent: 21 June 2001 01:23 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > > > > > > Alto Music has them > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 04:53:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA21629; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:51:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:51:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Where can I buy an echoplex ? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:50:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <5yNQKB.A.vRF.PWbM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Cliff, shouldn't you be in bed? :-)))) > -----Original Message----- > From: Om_Audio [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] > Sent: 21 June 2001 09:42 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > > > IMO you should get it from Alto- they are great- Cliff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andy Ewen > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 1:31 AM > Subject: RE: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > > > > We've been asking Gibson to send us details of Echoplex > stockists in the > US. > > Here are the first few:- > > > > East Coast...Alto Music in Middletown, NY # 845-692-6922 > > Midwest...Sweetwater Sound in Ft Wayne, In # 800-222-4700 > > West Coast...LA Music Service (just outside of Los Angeles, CA) # > > 310-787-0123 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: JHKNICKS@aol.com [mailto:JHKNICKS@aol.com] > > > Sent: 21 June 2001 01:23 > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: Re: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > > > > > > > > > Alto Music has them > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 05:02:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA22872; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:01:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:01:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c0fa31$514cc0e0$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: Subject: Re: Where can I buy an echoplex ? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:05:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes- I should- ...turn off Cubase... turn off EDP...turn off new Electrix gear..... I'm scared! ;) Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Ewen To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 1:50 AM Subject: RE: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > Cliff, shouldn't you be in bed? :-)))) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Om_Audio [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] > > Sent: 21 June 2001 09:42 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > > > > > > IMO you should get it from Alto- they are great- Cliff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Andy Ewen > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 1:31 AM > > Subject: RE: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > > > > > > > We've been asking Gibson to send us details of Echoplex > > stockists in the > > US. > > > Here are the first few:- > > > > > > East Coast...Alto Music in Middletown, NY # 845-692-6922 > > > Midwest...Sweetwater Sound in Ft Wayne, In # 800-222-4700 > > > West Coast...LA Music Service (just outside of Los Angeles, CA) # > > > 310-787-0123 > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: JHKNICKS@aol.com [mailto:JHKNICKS@aol.com] > > > > Sent: 21 June 2001 01:23 > > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > Subject: Re: Where can I buy an echoplex ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Alto Music has them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 06:30:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA24729; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:27:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:27:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002801c0fa3c$a4459820$51cec22b@cambmaya04> From: "Os" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: new label/releases with high loop content Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:26:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.burningshed.com/ cheers, os. os@scee.sony.co.uk http://www.mp3.com/carbonboy/ http://www.mp3.com/darkroomuk/ http://www.collective.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 07:08:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA26146; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:03:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:03:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001a01c0fa3d$59f5bd80$d5a463d3@mengqi> From: "Anotherbbs" To: "Looper's Delight Post Mail" Subject: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:30:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com All the loopers, I am a guitar player who wants to get into midi world . I have so little money ,but I need a useful midi guitar to translate me playing to midi information . If you have some good ideas ,please tell me . And if someone has midi guitars to sell .Tell me also.Thanks! By the way, I am looking for drum loops , please give some web sites which can give loops. I am new here ,I hope I can be friends with all of you .Thanks again. Best Regards Anotherbbs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 08:17:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA27827; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:15:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:15:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: GRStrings@aol.com Message-ID: <4f.d560c4e.28633eb9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:12:41 EDT Subject: Unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4f.d560c4e.28633eb9_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_4f.d560c4e.28633eb9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unsubscribe --part1_4f.d560c4e.28633eb9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unsubscribe --part1_4f.d560c4e.28633eb9_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 08:24:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA28068; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:23:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:23:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:22:47 EDT Subject: OT: Re: sounds in your head [another view of tinitus] To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com kevin said: >What I always found most interesting in meditation were those moments when >I would >be jolted by the sound of very loud gong-like tones. They sounded identical >to >'real' sounds out in the world but they came only from inside my head. and: crickets? the snapping of bamboo reeds? >It always struck me as an example of the brain/mind's power to recreate >sensorially 'real' experiences with no external stimulus (much like dreaming). some folks even say that the division 'tween external/internal is fabricated, anyway..... that 'life is but a dream', as it were..... > If only I could tap THAT as my primary instrument :-) genau, dude. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 09:30:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30115; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:27:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:27:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Midwest Loopalooza Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:24:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA55.761D74E0" Resent-Message-ID: <5p7zkD.A.bWH.tYfM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA55.761D74E0 Content-Type: text/plain Cincinnati checking in and signing up! tq -----Original Message----- From: Jim Schaefer [SMTP:jimsch@fullcompass.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:38 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Midwest Loopalooza Id be down with a Loopalooza. I live in the Milwaukee area. Scott Martin wrote: > > Well, I'm in Kalamazoo, which isn't quite Chicago, but > is a lot closer to it than LA. I know there are loopy > folks in the Indiana/Ohio area - maybe we need a > tri-state midwest loopaganza? Note - I am NOT > currently volunteering to organize this! =) > > later, > Scott > > ===== > And if it's up to us to bring some balance back > Let it not be said it's courage that we lack > > -Gaia Consort, "Cry Freedom" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA55.761D74E0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Midwest Loopalooza

Cincinnati checking in and signing = up!
tq

    -----Original = Message-----
    From:   Jim Schaefer = [SMTP:jimsch@fullcompass.com]
    Sent:   Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:38 PM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject:       = Midwest Loopalooza

    Id be down with a Loopalooza. I = live in the Milwaukee area.

    Scott Martin wrote:
    >
    > Well, I'm in Kalamazoo, = which isn't quite Chicago, but
    > is a lot closer to it than = LA.  I know there are loopy
    > folks in the Indiana/Ohio = area - maybe we need a
    > tri-state midwest = loopaganza?  Note - I am NOT
    > currently volunteering to = organize this! =3D)
    >
    > later,
    > Scott
    >
    > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
    > And if it's up to us to = bring some balance back
    > Let it not be said it's = courage that we lack
    >
    > -Gaia Consort, "Cry = Freedom"
    >
    > = __________________________________________________
    > Do You Yahoo!?
    > Get personalized email = addresses from Yahoo! Mail
    > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA55.761D74E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 09:59:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30885; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:58:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:58:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a901c0fa59$fb4f85a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: Midwest Loopalooza Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:56:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C0FA30.12457550" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C0FA30.12457550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Midwest LoopaloozaCount me in! From Loopy Lafayette, Indiana! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Quincy=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:24 AM Subject: RE: Midwest Loopalooza Cincinnati checking in and signing up!=20 tq=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C0FA30.12457550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Midwest Loopalooza
Count me in!  From Loopy = Lafayette,=20 Indiana!
 
Dennis Leas
-------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Todd = Quincy=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 = 8:24=20 AM
Subject: RE: Midwest = Loopalooza

Cincinnati checking in and signing = up!=20
tq =

------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C0FA30.12457550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 10:31:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32495; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:30:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:30:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:30:11 +0100 Subject: Re: Yo From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003801c0fa02$029e9600$056978c7@0017470167> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I used to have the original Steinberger licensed guitar in the '80s and I agree, the neck is great, I also have a Klein on the way which will be my first headless for 10 years. The higher end Steinbergers are no longer being made but you can find them secondhand. I think a lot of loopers use them compared to other styles of guitarists (is looping a style?) partly because they are great guitars but also ergonomically they are good if you tweak a lot of controls when you play, plus there's the futuristic element of a headless in a high tech enviroment, seems to sit better than in a classic rock setting (though I have seen Leslie West play one : ) The Fernandes I have is pretty much a low end Korean Strat but with the sustainer it's great. On it's own it's ok, not great. Fernandes do make some higher end sustainer guitars, look on their website for model info. Even the top of the line ones ($1500 retail) will end up on ebay for $400-500. I wouldn't have bought a Fernandes if they hadn't had the sustainer but they're certainly not bad guitars. If I'd wanted a Strat (I didn't) I would have spent the money on a G&L or something else but it was the sustainer I was interested in. For what you can get one for I'd say a Fernandes sustainer is a no brainer. I have a separate sustainer pickup too but I haven't found a home for it yet. Having a sustainer fitted to a large bodied Steiny shouldn't be a problem but it will be expensive, the pickups aren't cheap and unless you are very handy with a soldering iron you'll need someone to fit it. If you're looking for just a sustainer pickup check out the sustainiac site www.sustainiac.com I know a few bands that use a Fernandes sustainer, The Edge form U2, Steve Vai, Robert Fripp, Adrian Belew, Nine Inch Nails, Lee Ranaldo, Reeves Gabrels... There's a list on the website : ) Martin Shellard > From: "Q" > I've just sort of noticed that a lot of loopers use Steinbergers and/or > Klein guitars... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 10:34:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32682; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:33:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:33:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cave@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1-J Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:32:56 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: New release spam Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <7-AvZD.A.g-H.lWgM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, We released new album of the our band,TIMECONTROL. It called"Live at Bayside". It released from my own label,electr-ohm. Details is here. http://www.cavestudio.com/electr-ohm/index_E.html You can get it form Cranium Music. http://www.cranium-music.com/catalog/A_1698.htm Also direct order to us through Paypal is available. http://www.cavestudio.com/electr-ohm/index_E.html Our band style is improvised electronic,progressive,kraut rock. Some photos available on official site, http://www.cavestudio.com/TC/ Sorry for spam! Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 10:48:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00606; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:46:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:46:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.11.127.165] From: "Nick Schillace" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Repeater?EDP?Boss? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:45:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2001 14:45:51.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[DDF15900:01C0FA60] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello- This is my first post, and I am fairly new to looping. I have a Boomerang I've been using for about a year and have wanted something deeper with more memory and options to save multiple loops back and forth via my mac. I've tried to compare the Echoplex Digital Pro with the as yet to be released Electrix Repeater, but since the Echoplex's are rare and the Repeater isn't out, all I have done is read manuals online. I am eager to make an investment, and both units are close in price (I think), but without anything tangible to go on, I am thinking about the new Boss unit to maintain me until I can find these units and really check them out. Has anyone out there done any of the same preliminary research on the Repeater, or can offer some virtues of the Echoplex in a somewhat uneducated comparison? I would really appreciate it. Thanks Nick Schillace Detroit _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 11:01:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02090; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:59:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:59:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B320B3E.794DDFB9@pa.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:57:03 -0400 From: John McIntyre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Chicago/midwest loopers References: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4CE7@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Well, I'm in Kalamazoo, which isn't quite Chicago, but > is a lot closer to it than LA. I know there are loopy > folks in the Indiana/Ohio area - maybe we need a > tri-state midwest loopaganza? Lansing, here. There's a couple small venues in town that would be open to such a proceeding. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 11:01:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02094; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:00:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:00:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:59:29 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: Looping Drummers? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <003701c0fa62$c6079aa0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <200106191803.OAA25200@hemlock.violacea.com> <011501c0f8fb$56972680$f843f93f@dnlsh01> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i can't really call myself a drummer, but i have been looping congas a bit. haven't tried it live, though... i have had a bit of trouble with monitoring. the conga mics are pointed downward and the monitors are pointing upward. and though i have been able to get rid of microphonic squeeling feedback by keeping them off axis, the looper picks up the monitors when i am recording or overdubbing. how are you guys dealing with this? i'm thinking in-ear monitors might be a good solution, but i haven't tried them yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Looping Drummers? > I, too, am a looping drummer/percussionist > (although I play a lot of other instruments as well). > Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 11:19:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02799; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:17:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:17:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Transceovr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:16:25 EDT Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hmmm... Im not in any way a technical wizard but for recording my drumkit/percussion I usually wear my headphones to avoid picking up my monitors at all... I am guessing the same goes for your looping of the congas... I dont usually loop too many drums live since I am using a lot of other nonpercussive sound makers and then layering drums on top of that. I do however often run percussion through a delay unit for the sound layering. you should try in ear monitoring and this may solve some problems for now... going further into the drumming thing... are there any tabla players on this list? peace, K. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 11:21:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02868; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:19:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:19:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1E7@kes.camcare.com> From: "Wegmann, Greg" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:21:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have a tabla set but do not play them very well (I'm a guitar player). I do better on the dumbek and congas. weg -----Original Message----- From: Transceovr@aol.com [mailto:Transceovr@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:16 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? hmmm... Im not in any way a technical wizard but for recording my drumkit/percussion I usually wear my headphones to avoid picking up my monitors at all... I am guessing the same goes for your looping of the congas... I dont usually loop too many drums live since I am using a lot of other nonpercussive sound makers and then layering drums on top of that. I do however often run percussion through a delay unit for the sound layering. you should try in ear monitoring and this may solve some problems for now... going further into the drumming thing... are there any tabla players on this list? peace, K. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 11:30:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03320; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:28:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:28:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00cb01c0fa66$7b668b60$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <200106191803.OAA25200@hemlock.violacea.com> <011501c0f8fb$56972680$f843f93f@dnlsh01> <003701c0fa62$c6079aa0$080210ac@jpalmer> Subject: Re: Looping Drummers? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:26:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > i have had a bit of trouble with monitoring. > the conga mics are pointed downward and the monitors > are pointing upward. and though i have been able to > get rid of microphonic squeeling feedback by keeping > them off axis, the looper picks up the monitors when i am > recording or overdubbing. how are you guys dealing with this? > i'm thinking in-ear monitors might be a good solution, > but i haven't tried them yet. Yeah, monitoring is a real problem! The best I've used so far are those little mic stand mounted monitors. I use a pair of Yamaha-made powered ones (I can't remember the model number). They're two-way with some volume controls, a tone control, and several input jacks. I use two since I loop in stereo. I position them up fairly high at about ear-level. With my mics at a lower height and aimed downward, I get adequate isolation. I do have to keep the monitor volume low though, or I get too much monitor-in-the-loop sound. When I'm looping at home, sometimes I'll use a pair of headphones plugged into my board. I've thought about using those in-ear monitors. I've heard great things about them. As a cheaper alternative, you could use one of those wireless stereo FM transmitter kits (like from Jameco) and monitor with a Walkman. I'm sure it would not sound as good as the "real" in-ear systems but it might work well enough. Now I'm getting into this quad speaker system and I don't know quite what to do. I think I'm going to need four monitors, etc. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 11:35:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03578; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:33:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:33:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d301c0fa67$369eb4c0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1E7@kes.camcare.com> Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:31:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I play a little tabla. (OK ... they're full-scale, but I don't play them a lot :). When I am *working* on my tabla (you know, studying, memorizing patterns, etc), I use an EDP as a timekeeper. I play the basic tal into the EDP then practice on top of it. Works great! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 11:47:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04109; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:46:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:46:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Transceovr@aol.com Message-ID: <12f.5a3d25.2863709b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:45:31 EDT Subject: OT tabla To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: <-xJ2CB.A.-_.hahM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 6/21/2001 11:34:12 AM, dennis@mdbs.com writes: << I play a little tabla. (OK ... they're full-scale, but I don't play them a lot :). When I am *working* on my tabla (you know, studying, memorizing patterns, etc), I use an EDP as a timekeeper. I play the basic tal into the EDP then practice on top of it. Works great! >> hehe, mine are kinda little tabla but they are played very much... yea I usually sample my tal to practice my kaidas/tukras etc over... it works very well though I do think I will go ahead and buy a tabla machine because I play so much now that it will be worth the investment and it will be good for when I am teaching tabla. very good to hear about other players out there... if anyone wants to continue a discussion of tabla/indian classical music feel free to email me off the list! outro K. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 11:57:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04376; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:56:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:56:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <2B3ABA2F850AD011937D0000C00700D0058CD1EA@kes.camcare.com> From: "Wegmann, Greg" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:57:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sounds great! I just got my echoplex two weeks ago and haven't started using real drums yet. I am still working on connecting my Alesis SR16 to it and keeping the time synced. Has anyone used the new Echoplex on this list? How about with an Alesis SR16. I tried it briefly last night using the SR16 as the timekeeper but had problems so I am digging out the manual tonight to hopefully solve this problem. Thanks, Weg -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Leas [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:31 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? I play a little tabla. (OK ... they're full-scale, but I don't play them a lot :). When I am *working* on my tabla (you know, studying, memorizing patterns, etc), I use an EDP as a timekeeper. I play the basic tal into the EDP then practice on top of it. Works great! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 12:02:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05606; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:00:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:00:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AALev123@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:59:57 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_de.1653b9bc.286373fd_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_de.1653b9bc.286373fd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nick I am in the same situation except I have the boss rc-20. I am going to return it and I am now deciding between the echoplex, repeater and boomerang. I play guitar and would like to use whatever I end up getting for live playing. The RC-20 can save loops after power down , I do not think the echoplex r boomerang do this. It appears that the repeater saves to a memory card of some type. Can you be a little more specific about the limitations of the boomerang? Also, you should check the archives of this list, there have been a lot of ongoing discussion about this same topic. --part1_de.1653b9bc.286373fd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nick
I am in the same situation except I have the boss rc-20.  I am going to
return it and I am now deciding between the echoplex, repeater and boomerang.
I play guitar and would like to use whatever I end up getting for live
playing. The RC-20 can save loops after power down , I do not think the
echoplex r boomerang do this. It appears that the repeater saves to a memory
card of some type. Can you be a little more specific about the limitations of
the boomerang? Also, you should check the archives of this list, there have
been a lot of ongoing discussion about this same topic.    --part1_de.1653b9bc.286373fd_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 12:28:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06132; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:26:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:26:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <10e.178cf17.28637a1b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:26:03 EDT Subject: Re: tour spam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com michael; not this swing, but there is a benefit concert for a hospital in Haiti in P-Burg in October... more anon. best, RA > > TomTom Club on > > some dates in the NorthEast US this summer. > > > > robby.....pittsburgh perhaps?.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 12:33:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06474; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:31:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:31:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB387@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Cage on sounds in your head [another view of tinitus] Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:30:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA6F.785CDEC0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA6F.785CDEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ** i wonder about the chronology of this incident vis a vis 4'33". maybe that was part of his insipration??? stig > The BBC site has a summary of a documentary they're running on Radio4 on > experimental music. There's a few audio clips of interviews, one of which > is with John Cage telling the story of his first visit to Harvard's anechoic > chamber, which to his surpise didn't *sound* silent when he was in it. You > can listen to the Realaudio clip if you'd like, but for the > bandwidth-limited, he told one of the Harvard guys that something was wrong > with the "silent" room, because he heard two sounds in it--one very high, > the other very low. Harvard's answer was that the high tone was the sound > of his nervous system, and the low tone was that of his circulatory system. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/experimental.shtml > > > TH ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA6F.785CDEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Cage on sounds in your head [another view of = tinitus]

** i wonder about the chronology of this incident vis = a vis 4'33". maybe that was part of his insipration???


stig



> The BBC site has a summary of a documentary = they're running on Radio4 on
> experimental music.  There's a few audio = clips of interviews, one of which
> is with John Cage telling the story of his = first visit to Harvard's anechoic
> chamber, which to his surpise didn't *sound* = silent when he was in it.  You
> can listen to the Realaudio clip if you'd like, = but for the
> bandwidth-limited, he told one of the Harvard = guys that something was wrong
> with the "silent" room, because he = heard two sounds in it--one very high,
> the other very low.  Harvard's answer was = that the high tone was the sound
> of his nervous system, and the low tone was = that of his circulatory system.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/experimental.shtml
>
>
> TH

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA6F.785CDEC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 13:11:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08308; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:09:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:09:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.11.127.165] From: "Nick Schillace" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:08:41 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2001 17:08:41.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[D26B1F80:01C0FA74] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: AALev123@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:59:57 EDT > >Nick > I am in the same situation except I have the boss rc-20. I am going to >return it and I am now deciding between the echoplex, repeater and >boomerang. >I play guitar and would like to use whatever I end up getting for live >playing. The RC-20 can save loops after power down , I do not think the >echoplex r boomerang do this. It appears that the repeater saves to a >memory >card of some type. Can you be a little more specific about the limitations >of >the boomerang? Also, you should check the archives of this list, there have >been a lot of ongoing discussion about this same topic. Thanks for responding- The Bommerang is a fantastic on the fly unit. In my opinion, it is great for creative performance/improv. I have had some problems with noise when recording, and to me this is no small negative. The boomerang doesn't save anything after power down, and can only save two loops at a time when in use. I love using the boomerang for what I mentioned, but when I get a real great loop after much improv, even if I can retrace the process, I seldom come close to regaining what I had. This can be a problem when playing with others. The rang also has zero undo, so one slip up and you're fried. I think the echoplex can at the very least sync up with a computer to relieve itself of onboard loops. With its midi function, it would be easy to sync it up and dump some loops back in before a performance. After having used th rang quite a bit, I can say it is really great, but to me it isn't in the same class as the echoplex or repeater(I think). I'll keep it in my rig always, but it is almost more like a pedal to me.I want something I can really edit, and use with my computer. By the way, I'm a guitarist. What's wrong with the Boss? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 13:31:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08727; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:29:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:29:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE:Midwest Loop List Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:26:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA77.43633040" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA77.43633040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Okay, I volunteer to gather information of all of those interested in a Midwest Loop Fest. This is a start. After we have an idea of who and where we can move on from there. If you're considering it email my personal account openjam@aol.com . Please include name address phone describe your looping style and setup (solo/group) and list a venue you have access to Best of Loops TQ -----Original Message----- From: John McIntyre [SMTP:mcintyre@pa.msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 7:57 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Chicago/midwest loopers > Well, I'm in Kalamazoo, which isn't quite Chicago, but > is a lot closer to it than LA. I know there are loopy > folks in the Indiana/Ohio area - maybe we need a > tri-state midwest loopaganza? Lansing, here. There's a couple small venues in town that would be open to such a proceeding. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA77.43633040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE:Midwest Loop List

Okay, I volunteer to gather = information of all of those interested in a Midwest Loop Fest. This is = a start. After we have an idea of who and where we can move on from = there.

If you're considering it email my = personal account openjam@aol.com.

Please include
name
address
phone
describe your looping style and setup = (solo/group)
and list a venue you have access = to

Best of Loops
TQ
 

    -----Original = Message-----
    From:   John McIntyre = [SMTP:mcintyre@pa.msu.edu]
    Sent:   Thursday, June 21, 2001 7:57 AM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject:       = Re: Chicago/midwest loopers

    > Well, I'm in Kalamazoo, = which isn't quite Chicago, but
    > is a lot closer to it than = LA.  I know there are loopy
    > folks in the Indiana/Ohio = area - maybe we need a
    > tri-state midwest = loopaganza?

    Lansing, here.  There's a = couple small venues in town that would be open
    to such a proceeding.

    John McIntyre
    Physics - Astronomy Domine = Dept
    Michigan State = University
    mcintyre@pa.msu.edu

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA77.43633040-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 13:46:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09165; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:45:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:45:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: klowy@pop.wrinklemuzik.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:44:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: kenn lowy Subject: EDP feedback problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <2yyIvC.A.3OC.LKjM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com my EDP has been working fine until one day it just decided that the feedback part would not work at all! i have had a pedal controlling it for several years. even when i unplug the pedal, it still never fades the loop even when feedback is on 0. any thoughts??? klowy - wrinklemuzik nyc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 14:04:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10825; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:02:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:02:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.84] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: looping drummers? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:59:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2001 18:00:00.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD38BF90:01C0FA7B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I use bongos, but I don't use mics. I use drum triggers to pick up the vibrations. NO FEEDBACK, I love them, much better than mics and a whole lot cheaper Capt. Molecule --------------------------- From: jim palmer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Drummers? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:59:29 -0500 i can't really call myself a drummer, but i have been looping congas a bit. haven't tried it live, though... i have had a bit of trouble with monitoring. the conga mics are pointed downward and the monitors are pointing upward. and though i have been able to get rid of microphonic squeeling feedback by keeping them off axis, the looper picks up the monitors when i am recording or overdubbing. how are you guys dealing with this? i'm thinking in-ear monitors might be a good solution, but i haven't tried them yet. ------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 14:05:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10870; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:03:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:03:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:02:54 EDT Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <9Njx8C.A.cpC.VbjM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Transceovr@aol.com writes: >are there any tabla players on this list? not me, but: i often loop my tabla-machine..... best, dt / splattercell From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 14:05:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10826; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:02:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:02:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:01:26 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com nick, >I have a Boomerang >I've been using for about a year and have wanted something deeper with >more >memory and options to save multiple loops back and forth via my mac. of the looping-devices, only the repeater offers easy storage/media transfer; w/other devices, ya gotsta re-record yer analog outputs into the computer --- or, if yer veryvery patient, ye can use midisampledump on the edp. >I've tried to compare the Echoplex Digital Pro with the as yet to be >released Electrix Repeater, but since the Echoplex's are rare i don't think the edp is rare; i think you could have one right now: alto music, in middletown/wappingers falls ny. >and the >Repeater isn't out, all I have done is read manuals online. >I am eager to make an investment, and both units are close in price (I >think), but without anything tangible to go on, I am thinking about the >new >Boss unit to maintain me until I can find these units and really check >them >out. sounds like a waste, to me: edp now, repeater in 2 weeks (or less?). >Has anyone out there done any of the same preliminary research on the >Repeater, or can offer some virtues of the Echoplex in a somewhat uneducated >comparison? I would really appreciate it. Thanks please check this list's archives: there's *loadsa* material available, re:both, awready! anyway, the edp & repeater feature-sets are quite different: fwiw: i'm pretty dedicated to looping, and feel the need to use both of them. best, dt / splattercell From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 14:11:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11363; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:10:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:10:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:08:27 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com nick writes: >After having used th rang quite a bit, I can say it is really great, but >to >me it isn't in the same class as the echoplex or repeater(I think). i think yer right; certainly in terms of creative editing/midi, etc. edp / repeater wins, on the feature-set tip. (though a lotta folks sure do incredible stuff w/boomerangs, jammen, long delays, etc). best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 14:15:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11561; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:14:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:14:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c0fa7e$65e36ac0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:17:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <-IOaMC.A.e0C.cljM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What tabla macheen you talkin' bout? Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? > Transceovr@aol.com writes: > >are there any tabla players on this list? > not me, but: > i often loop my tabla-machine..... > best, > dt / splattercell > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 14:46:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12447; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:45:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:45:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010621124944.0094c100@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:49:44 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? In-Reply-To: <001a01c0fa3d$59f5bd80$d5a463d3@mengqi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, as far as I know, the least expensive way to get into a midi capable instrument, would be to first, buy an innexpensive guitar that you feel plays well and then purchase a roland GK-2-A pickup, which you'll need to install on the instrument. After that, you might consider looking for a used Roland guitar synthesizer, I.E. GR-1 , or GR-30. Actually, it occurrs to me as I'm writing this, that there was also a super inexpensive digitech system several years ago, called the Pitch Rider, which consisted of a pickup and a single rackspace unit, which seemed pretty nice. You might also be able to find a used Casio (I hope I spelled that right) synth guitar, which to my knowledge, is an all-in-one guitar synthesizer. Anyway, hope this helps, and I'm sure there'll be many others on the list who have great suggestions. -Good luck! Smiles, Goddess At 06:30 PM 6/21/01 +0800, you wrote: >All the loopers, > >I am a guitar player who wants to get into midi world . I have so little >money ,but I need a useful midi guitar to translate me playing to midi >information . If you have some good ideas ,please tell me . And if someone >has midi guitars to sell .Tell me also.Thanks! > By the way, I am looking for drum loops , please give some web sites which >can give loops. > I am new here ,I hope I can be friends with all of you .Thanks again. >Best Regards >Anotherbbs > > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 14:52:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12663; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:50:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:50:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <013201c0fa82$bf5c3ec0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: EDP feedback problem Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:48:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > my EDP has been working fine until one day it just decided that the > feedback part would not work at all! > . . . > any thoughts??? My $0.02 (USD): Have you tried resetting it to the factory settings? (The manual says you do this by holding down the PARAMETER button when you power up.) Also, try it in another mode like LOOP/DELAY=DELAY or OUT. This makes the feedback pedal act differently than the front panel control. See page 4-16 of the manual. If that doesn't work, it sounds like a hardware problem. Like maybe a flaky front panel feedback control. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 15:13:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14106; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:12:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:12:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00be01c0fa85$a7030040$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010621124944.0094c100@mail.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:09:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You might also check out the digital guitar mailing list. There's lots a folks who'll probably be glad to chew your ear off. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital-guitar/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goddess" To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? > Hello, as far as I know, the least expensive way to get into a midi > capable instrument, would be to first, buy an innexpensive guitar that you > feel plays well and then purchase a roland GK-2-A pickup, which you'll need > to install on the instrument. After that, you might consider looking for > a used Roland guitar synthesizer, I.E. GR-1 , or GR-30. Actually, it > occurrs to me as I'm writing this, that there was also a super inexpensive > digitech system several years ago, called the Pitch Rider, which consisted > of a pickup and a single rackspace unit, which seemed pretty nice. You > might also be able to find a used Casio (I hope I spelled that right) > synth guitar, which to my knowledge, is an all-in-one guitar synthesizer. > Anyway, hope this helps, and I'm sure there'll be many others on the list > who have great suggestions. -Good luck! > > Smiles, > > Goddess > > At 06:30 PM 6/21/01 +0800, you wrote: > >All the loopers, > > > >I am a guitar player who wants to get into midi world . I have so little > >money ,but I need a useful midi guitar to translate me playing to midi > >information . If you have some good ideas ,please tell me . And if someone > >has midi guitars to sell .Tell me also.Thanks! > > By the way, I am looking for drum loops , please give some web sites which > >can give loops. > > I am new here ,I hope I can be friends with all of you .Thanks again. > >Best Regards > >Anotherbbs > > > > > > > > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 15:21:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14411; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:19:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:19:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:18:43 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: Are You a Boy or a Girl To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00e701c0fa87$03ee1f00$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <6WEB2D.A.9gD.nikM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com can't you just add a second account for yourself? i use outlook express and have several accounts set up for different mail servers. i can set the name separately for each and choose which one to send with for each outgoing mail... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:08 PM Subject: Are You a Boy or a Girl > RE: The first LA Loop Fest!!!By request-- > A name change. > Sorry for any confusion. > Microsoft Outlook has only one slot for name under internet accounts so I > set it up with Candy's name because this was to be a business > account--however, the bulk of my email has been to y'all and so I will > change it to my name and change it back if need be for the business > occasion. I guess I could leave it in my name tho because we are supposed > to be partners. > TMI, but there ya go. > Gary > PS I wanna be on the bill at the next one. > G > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 15:22:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14454; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:20:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:20:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4CE9@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: to midi or not to midi Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:44:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA82.31428770" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA82.31428770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was wonderng what people s thought s are on midi. I use looping boards but non midi'ed along with drum machines, I tap the tempo in rather than using midi to sync. I kidn of hesitate using midi to sync a looper like an edp , hmmm cold be interestng especiall for bass sorts of things. any thoughts denis Denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA82.31428770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Cage on sounds in your head [another view of tinitus]
 
  I was wonderng what people s thought s are on midi. I use looping boards but non midi'ed along with drum machines, I tap the tempo in rather than using midi to sync. I kidn of hesitate using midi to sync a looper like an edp , hmmm cold be interestng especiall for bass sorts of things. any thoughts
 
denis
 
Denis taaffe
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA82.31428770-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 15:29:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14864; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:28:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:28:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B324BB0.AE04D618@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:37:50 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cage on sounds in your head [another view of tinitus] References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB387@migarexch01.maritz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Liebig, Steuart A." wrote: > > > ** i wonder about the chronology of this incident vis a vis 4'33". > maybe that was part of his insipration??? > > stig > > > > The BBC site has a summary of a documentary they're running on > Radio4 on > > experimental music. There's a few audio clips of interviews, one of > which > > is with John Cage telling the story of his first visit to Harvard's > anechoic > > chamber, which to his surpise didn't *sound* silent when he was in > it. You > > can listen to the Realaudio clip if you'd like, but for the > > bandwidth-limited, he told one of the Harvard guys that something > was wrong > > with the "silent" room, because he heard two sounds in it--one very > high, > > the other very low. Harvard's answer was that the high tone was the > sound > > of his nervous system, and the low tone was that of his circulatory > system. > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/experimental.shtml > > > > > > TH yes, i recall reading this exact thing in "the roaring silence". i think the experience not only inspired 4'33", but played a major role in everything he did subsequently...sort of an "aha!"... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 15:51:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15365; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:47:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:47:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Looping Drummers/ -kit Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:43:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA8A.70BE1470" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA8A.70BE1470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Alright. I couldn't resist. My performance usually begins with a live kit looped (then bass, guitar, etc.). It's very cool but playing with one hand and Pressing the EDP footswitch with the other is not only tolerable because I have no other option. Here's what I want: Five individual cymbals (1 for each EDP footpedal functions -record, loop. etc) that when struck would activate the EDP function. I don't think a midi trigger will work considering the vibration, and a momentary switch may also over-activate as the cymbal responds to the strike of the stick - although this is still best option I have. Others have told me to use triggers on toms but my point about that is drummers crash on the 1, and most loops open and close on the 1. The looping and drumming function would be seamless if the cymbals could work. If I had a drumset that could do this I could sit in on a jam and conduct the jam by sampling certain riffs of other players as well as start out my solo acts with a bang. tq -----Original Message----- From: Hedewa7@aol.com [SMTP:Hedewa7@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:03 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? Transceovr@aol.com writes: >are there any tabla players on this list? not me, but: i often loop my tabla-machine..... best, dt / splattercell ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA8A.70BE1470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Looping Drummers/ -kit

Alright. I couldn't resist.

My performance usually begins with a = live kit looped (then bass, guitar, etc.). It's very cool but playing = with one hand and Pressing the EDP footswitch with the other is not = only tolerable because I have no other option.

Here's what I want:
Five individual cymbals (1 for each = EDP footpedal functions -record, loop. etc) that when struck would = activate the EDP function. I don't think a midi trigger will work = considering the vibration, and a momentary switch may also = over-activate as the cymbal responds to the strike of the stick - = although this is still best option I have.

Others have told me to use triggers on = toms but my point about that is drummers crash on the 1, and most loops = open and close on the 1. The looping and drumming function would be = seamless if the cymbals could work.

If I had a drumset that could do this = I could sit in on a jam and conduct the jam by sampling certain riffs = of other players as well as start out my solo acts with a = bang.

tq

    -----Original = Message-----
    From:   Hedewa7@aol.com = [SMTP:Hedewa7@aol.com]
    Sent:   Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:03 AM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject:       = Re: Looping Drummers/tabla = anyone?

    Transceovr@aol.com = writes:
    >are there any tabla players = on this list?
    not me, but:
    i often loop my = tabla-machine.....
    best,
    dt / splattercell

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FA8A.70BE1470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 16:34:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17457; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:32:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:32:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <010801c0fa91$3475a120$2f44f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106211731.NAA08808@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: looping drummers and nasty monitor situations Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:31:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <4qhxS.A.lQE.mmlM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jim wrote: "the looper picks up the monitors when i am recording or overdubbing. how are you guys dealing with this?" I run my mics into my mackie mixer with the mute on. then I send out of my inserts to my 3 jampersons. then I put the jamperson mix setting to 100% wet. then I return the jamperson signal to a channel higher up on the board (channels 1 + 2 return to 7 + 8, etc.) In this way, the microphone never hears the monitor initially because there is nothing being monitored until the loop comes back to you. In this way I am using Shure SM-81 condenser mic as an overhead and an AKG D112 on my 'kick' drum (which is only 12" in diameter, but that's another posting) on my loopable, prepared drumset so the fidelity I'm getting is incredible for live and.............no feedback. The only odd thing is that the audience hears your first playing acoustically and then the loop comes back. It destroys the illusion of seemless looping but I' ve come to live with it, especially given the increased fidelity of the loops. I'll be using this rig with Michael and Steve in our upcoming tour. Good luck...........and you can also consider one of the behringer feedback eliminators as well. In ear monitors are cool but very expensive......to much for this poor drummer ;-) yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 16:42:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17670; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:40:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:40:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <013d01c0fa92$55354ea0$2f44f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106211731.NAA08808@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:39:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com k. wrote: "going further into the drumming thing... are there any tabla players on this list?" I'm not a tabla player but I play one on t.v. Seriously, I have never studied tabla but I've learned enough traditional and rhythmic technique that I play them occasionally in my looping shows and on pop or folk records. Any one who has made a serious study out of this most amazing of hand drums would know that I'm NOT an accomplished tabla player but audiences seem to really like it when I use them and I love how 'liquid' they are. I'm also really into looping ghatams of all kinds and am really working very hard on my kanjira technique (a small lizard skin frame drum with a lot of melodic capabilities). The kanjira in particular lends itself to proximity effects in micing. You can make this tiny drum sound like God........well maybe not like God, but you get the picture ;-) One thing about the traditional use of the tablas is that Indian rhythms are very linear and are not ostinato/repetitive like the west african/caribbean/middleeastern paradigm. I am extremely fond of playing something like Mozambique from Cuba using all of the delicious melodic aspects of the tabla. It really grooves and is very unconventional. Looping lends itself perfectly to this approach. yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 16:51:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18119; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:50:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:50:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005b01c0fa93$4bec7ca0$3730000a@office.tmcs> Reply-To: "Joey Aguilera" From: "Joey Aguilera" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010621124944.0094c100@mail.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:46:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You can check ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GR-30 .... members here are often selling gk2a ready guitars and synths. Joey From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 17:12:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20040; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:11:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:11:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B32632C.2ED0F0F1@cloud9.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:12:12 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss References: <200106211731.NAA08809@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No, you can't expect to dump the EDP samples to your computer. There's supposedly a midi dump feature, but it doesn't really work (or if it does, it takes eons to dump a loop of any size). This is one of the features of the Repeater that looks very appealing - the ability to dump the flash memory directly to the PC. Hopefully, it will work well - we'll know soon :) Elby > > Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:08:41 -0400 > From: "Nick Schillace" > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >From: AALev123@aol.com > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? > >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:59:57 EDT > > > >Nick > > I am in the same situation except I have the boss rc-20. I am > going to > >return it and I am now deciding between the echoplex, repeater and > >boomerang. > >I play guitar and would like to use whatever I end up getting for > live > >playing. The RC-20 can save loops after power down , I do not think > the > >echoplex r boomerang do this. It appears that the repeater saves to > a > >memory > >card of some type. Can you be a little more specific about the > limitations > >of > >the boomerang? Also, you should check the archives of this list, > there have > >been a lot of ongoing discussion about this same topic. > > Thanks for responding- > The Bommerang is a fantastic on the fly unit. In my opinion, it is > great for > creative performance/improv. I have had some problems with noise when > recording, and to me this is no small negative. > The boomerang doesn't save anything after power down, and can only > save two > loops at a time when in use. I love using the boomerang for what I > mentioned, but when I get a real great loop after much improv, even if > I can > retrace the process, I seldom come close to regaining what I had. This > can > be a problem when playing with others. The rang also has zero undo, so > one > slip up and you're fried. > I think the echoplex can at the very least sync up with a computer to > relieve itself of onboard loops. With its midi function, it would be > easy to > sync it up and dump some loops back in before a performance. > After having used th rang quite a bit, I can say it is really great, > but to > me it isn't in the same class as the echoplex or repeater(I think). > I'll > keep it in my rig always, but it is almost more like a pedal to me.I > want > something I can really edit, and use with my computer. By the way, I'm > a > guitarist. > What's wrong with the Boss? > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 17:14:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20145; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:12:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:12:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <018f01c0fa96$9ce1b550$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <200106211731.NAA08808@hemlock.violacea.com> <013d01c0fa92$55354ea0$2f44f93f@dnlsh01> Subject: Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:10:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > The kanjira in particular lends itself to proximity effects in micing. One of my favorite "drums" is a single Remo PTS (pretuned head) that I got several year ago. This puppy is about 12" in diameter and very quiet acoustically. But hold it close to an mic and Oh Man! you get this HUGE bass drum sound! If you hold it right, you can press on the "skin" and bend the pitch. And it's so small that I can pack it on top of my congas. I generally play it with a marimba mallet. Does Remo even make PTS heads anymore? > I'm also really into looping ghatams of all kinds How do you mic your ghatams? I play an udu that has a small hole for a mic in the "neck". I use an el cheapo Radio Shacko mic ($25) and it works great! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 17:23:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20440; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:21:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:21:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010621212116.18393.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:21:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <1tVGV.A.O_E.NVmM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My *real* tablas are cracked and sitting in my closet. I've looped mrdangam, kanjira and ghatam a bit. I'm now working on looping my handsonic tabla and ghatam (well, african pot drum) in the midi domain. Stephen --- Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: > Transceovr@aol.com writes: > >are there any tabla players on this list? ===== Stephen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 17:47:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20963; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:44:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:44:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <02af01c0fa9b$05efa440$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: <20010621212116.18393.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:42:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have no formal technique in tablas at all, but I love the sound of the tabla models on my wavedrum, it's one of my favorite patches. Very expressive and dynamic. You can even scoop with your palm of your hand to get that low frequency waaOOMP tone (did I mention I have no formal training in tablas? :-) And there's no need to mic it! ;-) hehe Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen" To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? > My *real* tablas are cracked and sitting in my closet. > I've looped mrdangam, kanjira and ghatam a bit. I'm > now working on looping my handsonic tabla and ghatam > (well, african pot drum) in the midi domain. > > Stephen > > --- Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: > > Transceovr@aol.com writes: > > >are there any tabla players on this list? > > > ===== > Stephen > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 18:09:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22493; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:07:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:07:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <04de01c0fa9e$d8580dc0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: Subject: furman RR-15NL Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:09:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi. this is probably a stupid question, but i'd rather ask than find out the hard way. in addition to the 8 outlets on the back, there's one on the front as well. is this one different somehow, or just added for convenience? just wondering if i can use the 8 on the back for rack stuff and say plug my mixer into the front panel one. i'm used to plain old power strips, so i didn't want to try it before i knew it was safe! thanks, as always. Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 18:51:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23204; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:39:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:39:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B327776.312E8C94@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:38:45 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? References: <3.0.5.32.20010621124944.0094c100@mail.earthlink.net> <005b01c0fa93$4bec7ca0$3730000a@office.tmcs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From a person who screwed around with a bunch of older and cheaper midi guitars (Oh that Casio...) I can tell you one thing: Save up and buy yourself a GR-30 or 33. There are better ones out there as well, but at a higher price, of course. I really felt others were toys in comparison with very limited usability. Mark Joey Aguilera wrote: > You can check ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GR-30 .... members here > are often selling gk2a ready guitars and synths. > > Joey From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 18:54:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23292; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:43:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:43:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002901c0faa4$24a75320$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: Subject: OT: Controllers for VST Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:47:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <9lz9-.A.nrF.fhnM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anyone here using Doepfer or other low cost controllers inside of Cubase? I need to automate a bunch of panning and volumes 2 channels at a time and I would like to avoid spending money on an O1V, Motormix, or the Houston- all I need are a few knobs- 4Control? Others? Thanks- (I'm PC based...) Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 19:00:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23413; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:48:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:48:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3279AD.A3640B36@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:48:12 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: to midi or not to midi References: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4CE9@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------783C09455DC5F9B9F6670B8E" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------783C09455DC5F9B9F6670B8E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go MIDI for sure. If you're playing with a drum machine or sequencer, I can't imagine how you could get it exactly on. I've tried, and there is always drift. However, a friend of mine is building me a device that senses the pulse of an LED and spits out a tap tempo signal. It's for my vortex, which is not midi. It should also work with any looper that uses a JamMan/Vortex style foot switch (a standard keyboard sustain pedal seems to do the trick quite well) I can't really vouch for it's accuracy (in my case it doesn't really matter too much, as it's not for looping, but for synched effects) but I'll let the group know when he's finished. Why is he using an LED light to synch from instead of MIDI? Because he thought it would be more fun and interesting to do it that way, and he's doing it for free. Mark "Taaffe, Denis G" wrote: > > > I was wonderng what people s thought s are on midi. I use > looping boards but non midi'ed along with drum machines, I > tap the tempo in rather than using midi to sync. I kidn of > hesitate using midi to sync a looper like an edp , hmmm cold > be interestng especiall for bass sorts of things. any > thoughts > denis > Denis taaffe > denis_aliengtr@geocities.com > http://www.dtguitar.com > --------------783C09455DC5F9B9F6670B8E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go MIDI for sure.  If you're playing with a drum machine or sequencer, I can't imagine how you could get it exactly on.  I've tried, and there is always drift.  However, a friend of mine is building me a device that senses the pulse of an LED and spits out a tap tempo signal.  It's for my vortex, which is not midi.  It should also work with any looper that uses a JamMan/Vortex style foot switch (a standard keyboard sustain pedal seems to do the trick quite well)  I can't really vouch for it's accuracy (in my case it doesn't really matter too much, as it's not for looping, but for synched effects) but I'll let the group know when he's finished.  Why is he using an LED light to synch from instead of MIDI?  Because he thought it would be more fun and interesting to do it that way, and he's doing it for free.

Mark

"Taaffe, Denis G" wrote:

  
  I was wonderng what people s thought s are on midi. I use looping boards but non midi'ed along with drum machines, I tap the tempo in rather than using midi to sync. I kidn of hesitate using midi to sync a looper like an edp , hmmm cold be interestng especiall for bass sorts of things. any thoughts
denis
Denis taaffe
denis_aliengtr@geocities.com
http://www.dtguitar.com 
--------------783C09455DC5F9B9F6670B8E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 19:12:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25216; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:10:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:10:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ae01c0faa7$aecfa4a0$fd944e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:12:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick wrote: >One thing about the traditional use of the tablas is that Indian rhythms are >very linear and are not ostinato/repetitive like the >west african/caribbean/middleeastern paradigm. Have to call you on that one, Rick! :-) The rhythms of traditional North Indian classical music are truly cyclical -- if you think about it, a theka is a basic rhythmic loop, outlining the taal. Of course, there's a world of difference between theka and various tabla or pakhawaj compositions in solo performance. But as a sitarist my training has been to listen to the ostinato patterns of the theka to hear where stressed and unstressed beats fall within the taal cycle, so as to calculate how many beats are left until the return of the 'sam' (= "one" or highly stressed first beat). An Indian musician hears the taal very much as a rhythmic ostinato, over which the melody is woven. By contrast, Indian musicians hear most other non-Indian musical rhythms as being "linear" or non-resolving. But in solo Indian drumming performance I would agree -- it's often very difficult to keep track of the taal since there is so much "layakari" literally "rhythm work") of doubling/quadrupling/octupling the tempo, introducing cross-rhythms (e.g., 7 against 16), rubato, etc. In this model, the drummer will often return to the theka as a resting point in which to refresh the audience's memory of the taal itself, something similar to playing the "head" in a jazz composition after many choruses of improvisation. >I am extremely fond of playing something like Mozambique >from Cuba using all of the delicious melodic aspects of the tabla. >It really grooves and is very unconventional. The late Collin Walcott (of the ensemble Oregon) used to do this with tabla as well -- he'd incorporate very standard Afro-Cuban cowbell type rhythms on the tabla and they always sounded great. >Any one who has made a serious study out of this most amazing of hand >drums would know that I'm NOT an accomplished tabla player Nor am I. As an instrumentalist within the Indian classical tradition, I'm expected to have a functional knowledge of tabla. I've had training and can play VERY rudimentary tabla, but certainly not to the point of providing accompaniment to a vocalist or instrumentalist in a high level musical setting. But that doesn't necessarily mean I can't have fun with the tabla. And they certainly are great for looping. I also have a "tabla machine" which I use for standard ICM (Indian classical music) practice. This too is a great looping tool. I often use it to set up a very off-kilter rhythm bed, for instance an 11-beat taal versus a 7-beat taal, over which to improvise melodically. James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 19:12:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25210; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:10:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:10:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001d01c0faa6$a684a580$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <12f.5a3d25.2863709b@aol.com> Subject: Re: OT tabla Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:05:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <3e7vgC.A.RJG.96nM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Loopers have you all checked out Swarshala??? i play sitar and Tamboura and before i found a Tabla player i found in wonderful for hindustani loops Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: OT tabla > > In a message dated 6/21/2001 11:34:12 AM, dennis@mdbs.com writes: > > << I play a little tabla. (OK ... they're full-scale, but I don't play them a > > lot :). > > > When I am *working* on my tabla (you know, studying, memorizing patterns, > > etc), I use an EDP as a timekeeper. I play the basic tal into the EDP then > > practice on top of it. Works great! > > >> > > hehe, mine are kinda little tabla but they are played very much... yea I > usually sample my tal to practice my kaidas/tukras etc over... it works very > well though I do think I will go ahead and buy a tabla machine because I play > so much now that it will be worth the investment and it will be good for when > I am teaching tabla. > > very good to hear about other players out there... if anyone wants to > continue a discussion of tabla/indian classical music feel free to email me > off the list! > > outro > K. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 19:14:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25382; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:13:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:13:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <9e.162db512.2863d950@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:12:16 EDT Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <8tImZC.A.aMG.19nM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com cliff, >What tabla macheen you talkin' bout? riyaz master pro. !!! best, dt / spltrcl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 19:16:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25487; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:15:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:15:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003f01c0faa7$5de14260$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:10:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I play with two Tabla players one from the Hindu Classical (zakir trained) and another plays mostly bhajan and thumri i have culled loops from both Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? > hmmm... Im not in any way a technical wizard but for recording my > drumkit/percussion I usually wear my headphones to avoid picking up my > monitors at all... I am guessing the same goes for your looping of the > congas... I dont usually loop too many drums live since I am using a lot of > other nonpercussive sound makers and then layering drums on top of that. I do > however often run percussion through a delay unit for the sound layering. > > you should try in ear monitoring and this may solve some problems for now... > > going further into the drumming thing... are there any tabla players on this > list? > > peace, > K. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 19:18:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25543; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:16:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:16:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004a01c0faa7$851b1180$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <20010621212116.18393.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:11:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I like the Tabla loops sounds from the handsonic It appears on a video that me and another list member did for a JI piece last year. Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: Re: Looping Drummers/tabla anyone? > My *real* tablas are cracked and sitting in my closet. > I've looped mrdangam, kanjira and ghatam a bit. I'm > now working on looping my handsonic tabla and ghatam > (well, african pot drum) in the midi domain. > > Stephen > > --- Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: > > Transceovr@aol.com writes: > > >are there any tabla players on this list? > > > ===== > Stephen > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 19:19:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25647; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:18:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:18:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6d.15c3d650.2863da89@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:17:29 EDT Subject: Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6d.15c3d650.2863da89_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <39vrLD.A.hQG.WCoM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_6d.15c3d650.2863da89_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/21/01 7:10:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net writes: > more info please.....michael --part1_6d.15c3d650.2863da89_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/21/01 7:10:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net writes:


I also have a "tabla machine"


more info please.....michael --part1_6d.15c3d650.2863da89_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 19:49:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26245; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:48:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:48:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Transceovr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:47:37 EDT Subject: Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: <4Ktor.A.3ZG.7eoM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 6/21/2001 7:10:38 PM, j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net writes: << The rhythms of traditional North Indian classical music are truly cyclical >> the linear compositions you hear are nested in a totally cyclic rhythm with sam and kali falling on the same beat each time through depending on the taal one is focusing on... my main purpose in bringing this subject to the list was that tabla is such a loop based instrument... if you consider the fundamental taals they are trully little phrases or loops of specific bols/strokes such as simple teentaal: dha dhin dhin dha dha dhin dhin dha na tin tin na na dhin dhin dha I think it is however perfectly understandable to hear tabla as linear in instrumental or solo performance... if you want to hear tabla in a more cyclical manner I would suggest listening to some classical vocal music of north india and focusing on the tabla when present. I think as far as tabla machines go I prefer the riyaz master as well and yea Im totally tempted to go buy a handsonic because the tabla sounds are great but I just for now prefer my full scale but little tabla... hehe. peace out, K. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 20:01:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27512; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:59:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:59:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <013301c0faae$664930a0$fd944e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:00:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0130_01C0FA8C.DE6E2620" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0130_01C0FA8C.DE6E2620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also have a "tabla machine"=20 more info please.....michael=20 Sure. Tabla machines have been discussed on-list before, and the = archives contain some pointers for sites to listen to some of these = devices, as well as places to purchase them. =20 Basically, the "tabla machine" is an electronic device preprogrammed to = play the "theka" or basic pattern of beats in a "taal" (rhythmic cycle) = of Indian music. I've worked with two different machines, the Taal = Mala and the Riyaz Master Pro. Each of these has a selection of preset = taals, most of which are in common use in Indian music, some more = obscure or lesser-heard taals are represented as well. There are = controls for volume, pitch (since the smaller drum of the tabla pair is = tuned to the tonic of the vocalist or instrumentalist), and tempo. = There are also controls for "speed" (as opposed to tempo) since the = theka usually changes when playing at different speeds. This control = varies the theka for "vilambit" (slow), "madhya" (medium) and "drut" = (fast) speeds. Within each of these speeds you can also = accelerate/decelerate the tempo. =20 >From my experience with the two machines I've used, I prefer the Riyaz = Master Pro. However, to be fair, the version of Taal Mala I had was = from about 10 years ago -- in fact, it was the first "electronic tabla." = It used very plinky/thuddy synthetic tones that tried to replicate the = high and low drum sounds of the tabla, and had a very tinny speaker that = only seemed to function properly at distoring volumes. But I've heard = an updated version of the Taal Mala which uses sampled tabla and sounds = very good. The Riyaz Master Pro also uses sampled tabla sounds and has = a good speaker. One major caveat, though - none of these machines are going to sound = anything like a live tabla player. They were designed as a practice = tool for vocalists and instrumentalists. In India you generally pay a = tabla accompanist a fee to come over and practice with you, particularly = if the tabla player is senior to you in terms of age or experience. = While practicing, perhaps 95% of the time the tabla player will play a = steady "theka" while the vocalist or instrumentalist practices rhythmic = improvisations within the framework of a composition. So the tabla = machine serves this same purpose - to give that "theka" to practice = over. =20 My advice if you're interested in a tabla machine (or any other Indian = instrument) is to see if someone you know is going to India, then ask = them to bring one back for you since the markup in the West tends to be = shockingly extreme.=20 James ------=_NextPart_000_0130_01C0FA8C.DE6E2620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also have a "tabla machine" = more info=20 please.....michael
Sure.  Tabla machines have been = discussed on-list=20 before, and the archives contain some pointers for sites to listen to = some of=20 these devices, as well as places to purchase = them.  
 
Basically, the "tabla machine" is = an=20 electronic device preprogrammed to play the "theka" or basic = pattern=20 of beats in a "taal" (rhythmic cycle) of Indian = music.  =20 I've worked with two different machines, the Taal Mala and the Riyaz = Master=20 Pro.  Each of these has a selection of preset taals, most of which = are in=20 common use in Indian music, some more obscure or lesser-heard taals are=20 represented as well.  There are controls for volume, pitch (since = the=20 smaller drum of the tabla pair is tuned to the tonic of the vocalist or=20 instrumentalist), and tempo.  There are also controls for = "speed"=20 (as opposed to tempo) since the theka usually changes when playing at = different=20 speeds.  This control varies the theka for "vilambit" = (slow),=20 "madhya" (medium) and "drut" (fast) speeds.  = Within=20 each of these speeds you can also accelerate/decelerate the = tempo.  =20
 
From my experience with the two machines I've = used, I=20 prefer the Riyaz Master Pro.  However, to be fair, the version of = Taal Mala=20 I had was from about 10 years ago -- in fact, it was the first = "electronic=20 tabla."  It used very plinky/thuddy synthetic tones that tried = to=20 replicate the high and low drum sounds of the tabla, and had a very = tinny=20 speaker that only seemed to function properly at distoring = volumes.  But=20 I've heard an updated version of the Taal Mala which uses sampled tabla = and=20 sounds very good.  The Riyaz Master Pro also uses sampled tabla = sounds and=20 has a good speaker.
 
One major caveat, though - none of these = machines are=20 going to sound anything like a live tabla player.  They were = designed as a=20 practice tool for vocalists and instrumentalists.  In India you = generally=20 pay a tabla accompanist a fee to come over and practice with you, = particularly=20 if the tabla player is senior to you in terms of age or = experience.  While=20 practicing, perhaps 95% of the time the tabla player will play a steady=20 "theka" while the vocalist or instrumentalist practices = rhythmic=20 improvisations within the framework of a composition.  So the tabla = machine=20 serves this same purpose - to give that "theka" to practice=20 over.  
 
My advice if you're interested in a tabla = machine (or=20 any other Indian instrument) is to see if someone you know is going to = India,=20 then ask them to bring one back for you since the markup in the West = tends to be=20 shockingly extreme. 
 
James
------=_NextPart_000_0130_01C0FA8C.DE6E2620-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 20:13:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28006; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:11:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:11:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.74.112.169] From: "Nick Schillace" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:10:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2001 00:10:43.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6FA3100:01C0FAAF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: Hedewa7@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:08:27 EDT > >nick writes: > >After having used th rang quite a bit, I can say it is really great, but > >to > >me it isn't in the same class as the echoplex or repeater(I think). >i think yer right; certainly in terms of creative editing/midi, etc. >edp / repeater wins, on the feature-set tip. >(though a lotta folks sure do incredible stuff w/boomerangs, jammen, long >delays, etc). >best, >dt / s-c > Thanks for the response. I know this has been a much covered topic, but this is my first day on the list, and the main reason for signing up. I know it gets a little crazy going over the pros and cons of hardware that isn't even available. The thing I'm worried about with the Repeater is that it seems to require a set beat measurement, like 4 to the bar or whatever. I just wish my boomerang would save and let me undo once in awhile! N _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 20:41:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28586; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:40:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:40:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:29:28 -0400 To: ambient@hyperreal.org, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Slightly OT -- CD players with search Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Does anyone know of a CD player that has better features for searching within a track than the 'hold the button down' method, which always seems lame and annoying to me. Something as simple as buttons on the remote that advanced and backed up by 1 minute increments would be a good start. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 20:42:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28585; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:40:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:40:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <013301c0faae$664930a0$fd944e0c@u73x0> References: <013301c0faae$664930a0$fd944e0c@u73x0> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:24:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Software Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A software version of this would be really cool. (I used to write music software, but I'm way too busy with video software these days, so don't ask me.) Someone who knew Max and Indian music theory could probably cook one up. At 8:00 PM -0400 6/21/01, James Pokorny wrote: >>I also have a "tabla machine" >> >more info please.....michael > >Sure. Tabla machines have been discussed on-list before, and the >archives contain some pointers for sites to listen to some of these >devices, as well as places to purchase them. > >Basically, the "tabla machine" is an electronic device preprogrammed >to play the "theka" or basic pattern of beats in a "taal" (rhythmic >cycle) of Indian music. I've worked with two different machines, >the Taal Mala and the Riyaz Master Pro. Each of these has a >selection of preset taals, most of which are in common use in Indian >music, some more obscure or lesser-heard taals are represented as >well. There are controls for volume, pitch (since the smaller drum >of the tabla pair is tuned to the tonic of the vocalist or >instrumentalist), and tempo. There are also controls for "speed" >(as opposed to tempo) since the theka usually changes when playing >at different speeds. This control varies the theka for "vilambit" >(slow), "madhya" (medium) and "drut" (fast) speeds. Within each of >these speeds you can also accelerate/decelerate the tempo. > >From my experience with the two machines I've used, I prefer the >Riyaz Master Pro. However, to be fair, the version of Taal Mala I >had was from about 10 years ago -- in fact, it was the first >"electronic tabla." It used very plinky/thuddy synthetic tones that >tried to replicate the high and low drum sounds of the tabla, and >had a very tinny speaker that only seemed to function properly at >distoring volumes. But I've heard an updated version of the Taal >Mala which uses sampled tabla and sounds very good. The Riyaz >Master Pro also uses sampled tabla sounds and has a good speaker. > >One major caveat, though - none of these machines are going to sound >anything like a live tabla player. They were designed as a practice >tool for vocalists and instrumentalists. In India you generally pay >a tabla accompanist a fee to come over and practice with you, >particularly if the tabla player is senior to you in terms of age or >experience. While practicing, perhaps 95% of the time the tabla >player will play a steady "theka" while the vocalist or >instrumentalist practices rhythmic improvisations within the >framework of a composition. So the tabla machine serves this same >purpose - to give that "theka" to practice over. > >My advice if you're interested in a tabla machine (or any other >Indian instrument) is to see if someone you know is going to India, >then ask them to bring one back for you since the markup in the West >tends to be shockingly extreme. > >James -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 21:13:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA30280; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:11:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:11:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010621201117.00810100@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:11:17 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: OT: Anyone Using WaveLab To Mix? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I do a lot of looping, textural stuff recorded in Cubase VST 32. Mixing in Cubase seems to be sonically useless. Have been learning WaveLab. But, it seems that I must line up each auto track I import. It's a real time consuming drag. If you're using WaveLab successfully, please email me off the list. I have a question, or two. Thanks! Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 21:41:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA30782; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:39:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:39:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000c01c0fabb$8d8054c0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <013301c0faae$664930a0$fd944e0c@u73x0> Subject: Re: Software Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:35:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <4K6SR.A.0gH.OHqM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Someone already has emile did you not see my post? http://www.swarsystems.com/SwarShala/Cafe/ Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: Software Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla > > A software version of this would be really cool. (I used to write > music software, but I'm way too busy with video software these days, > so don't ask me.) Someone who knew Max and Indian music theory could > probably cook one up. > > At 8:00 PM -0400 6/21/01, James Pokorny wrote: > >>I also have a "tabla machine" > >> > >more info please.....michael > > > >Sure. Tabla machines have been discussed on-list before, and the > >archives contain some pointers for sites to listen to some of these > >devices, as well as places to purchase them. > > > >Basically, the "tabla machine" is an electronic device preprogrammed > >to play the "theka" or basic pattern of beats in a "taal" (rhythmic > >cycle) of Indian music. I've worked with two different machines, > >the Taal Mala and the Riyaz Master Pro. Each of these has a > >selection of preset taals, most of which are in common use in Indian > >music, some more obscure or lesser-heard taals are represented as > >well. There are controls for volume, pitch (since the smaller drum > >of the tabla pair is tuned to the tonic of the vocalist or > >instrumentalist), and tempo. There are also controls for "speed" > >(as opposed to tempo) since the theka usually changes when playing > >at different speeds. This control varies the theka for "vilambit" > >(slow), "madhya" (medium) and "drut" (fast) speeds. Within each of > >these speeds you can also accelerate/decelerate the tempo. > > > >From my experience with the two machines I've used, I prefer the > >Riyaz Master Pro. However, to be fair, the version of Taal Mala I > >had was from about 10 years ago -- in fact, it was the first > >"electronic tabla." It used very plinky/thuddy synthetic tones that > >tried to replicate the high and low drum sounds of the tabla, and > >had a very tinny speaker that only seemed to function properly at > >distoring volumes. But I've heard an updated version of the Taal > >Mala which uses sampled tabla and sounds very good. The Riyaz > >Master Pro also uses sampled tabla sounds and has a good speaker. > > > >One major caveat, though - none of these machines are going to sound > >anything like a live tabla player. They were designed as a practice > >tool for vocalists and instrumentalists. In India you generally pay > >a tabla accompanist a fee to come over and practice with you, > >particularly if the tabla player is senior to you in terms of age or > >experience. While practicing, perhaps 95% of the time the tabla > >player will play a steady "theka" while the vocalist or > >instrumentalist practices rhythmic improvisations within the > >framework of a composition. So the tabla machine serves this same > >purpose - to give that "theka" to practice over. > > > >My advice if you're interested in a tabla machine (or any other > >Indian instrument) is to see if someone you know is going to India, > >then ask them to bring one back for you since the markup in the West > >tends to be shockingly extreme. > > > >James > > -- > > "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man > persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress > depends on the unreasonable man. > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 21:49:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA30985; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:47:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:47:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: XJ32@aol.com Message-ID: <44.f35c8c3.2863fda1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:47:13 EDT Subject: A few more weeks ?!? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_44.f35c8c3.2863fda1_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Resent-Message-ID: <0_go4.A.BkH.lOqM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_44.f35c8c3.2863fda1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Called electrix today, asked when and if the repeater was shipping soon, I was told, "a few more weeks" as they are still finalizing the last software tests. On the plus side I found a MoFX at Mars music for $99. They actually had it transferred from another store for me. Yeah!!!!! - Paul --part1_44.f35c8c3.2863fda1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Called electrix today, asked when and if the repeater was shipping soon, I
was told, "a few more weeks" as they are still finalizing the last software
tests.

On the plus side I found a MoFX at Mars music for $99.  They actually had it
transferred from another store for me. Yeah!!!!!

- Paul --part1_44.f35c8c3.2863fda1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 22:14:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA32396; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:13:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:13:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <021901c0fac1$9227fc20$df9d0318@union1.nj.home.com> From: "David Beardsley" To: Subject: solo looping gig Fri. NYC Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:18:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0216_01C0FAA0.0ACB9780" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0216_01C0FAA0.0ACB9780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As part of the World Out of Tune Festival: Friday, June 22, 2001 David Beardsley=20 Blurry Day=20 microtones and drones - solo Just Intonation synthesizer=20 $10 =20 8:30 pm Sufi Books=20 227 West Broadway =20 New York, New York 10013=20 http://microtones.com/woot http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley ------=_NextPart_000_0216_01C0FAA0.0ACB9780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0216_01C0FAA0.0ACB9780-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 21 23:01:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01864; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:59:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:59:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000c01c0fabb$8d8054c0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> References: <013301c0faae$664930a0$fd944e0c@u73x0> <000c01c0fabb$8d8054c0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:50:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: Software Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 9:35 PM -0400 6/21/01, shreeswifty wrote: >Someone already has emile >did you not see my post? Sorry, I jumped in at the end of a thread during a busy work day. Cool. It would be more tempting if it weren't Win only. How interactive is it. I'm imagining something where I can interactively change the various tabla machine parameters described below, and send a clean, well-timed MIDI stream to my sampler (which of, course might have totally different sounds in it) The TalTrax CD is tempting me more.What is the difference between 1 and 2> >http://www.swarsystems.com/SwarShala/Cafe/ >Pat Pagano, Director >South East Just Intonation Society >http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ >http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) >To: >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:24 PM >Subject: Software Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla > > >> >> A software version of this would be really cool. (I used to write >> music software, but I'm way too busy with video software these days, >> so don't ask me.) Someone who knew Max and Indian music theory could >> probably cook one up. >> >> At 8:00 PM -0400 6/21/01, James Pokorny wrote: >> >>I also have a "tabla machine" >> >> >> >more info please.....michael >> > >> >Sure. Tabla machines have been discussed on-list before, and the >> >archives contain some pointers for sites to listen to some of these >> >devices, as well as places to purchase them. >> > >> >Basically, the "tabla machine" is an electronic device preprogrammed >> >to play the "theka" or basic pattern of beats in a "taal" (rhythmic >> >cycle) of Indian music. I've worked with two different machines, > > >the Taal Mala and the Riyaz Master Pro. Each of these has a > > >selection of preset taals, most of which are in common use in Indian > > >music, some more obscure or lesser-heard taals are represented as >> >well. There are controls for volume, pitch (since the smaller drum >> >of the tabla pair is tuned to the tonic of the vocalist or >> >instrumentalist), and tempo. There are also controls for "speed" >> >(as opposed to tempo) since the theka usually changes when playing >> >at different speeds. This control varies the theka for "vilambit" >> >(slow), "madhya" (medium) and "drut" (fast) speeds. Within each of >> >these speeds you can also accelerate/decelerate the tempo. >> > >> >From my experience with the two machines I've used, I prefer the >> >Riyaz Master Pro. However, to be fair, the version of Taal Mala I >> >had was from about 10 years ago -- in fact, it was the first >> >"electronic tabla." It used very plinky/thuddy synthetic tones that >> >tried to replicate the high and low drum sounds of the tabla, and >> >had a very tinny speaker that only seemed to function properly at > > >distoring volumes. But I've heard an updated version of the Taal > > >Mala which uses sampled tabla and sounds very good. The Riyaz > > >Master Pro also uses sampled tabla sounds and has a good speaker. >> > >> >One major caveat, though - none of these machines are going to sound >> >anything like a live tabla player. They were designed as a practice >> >tool for vocalists and instrumentalists. In India you generally pay >> >a tabla accompanist a fee to come over and practice with you, >> >particularly if the tabla player is senior to you in terms of age or >> >experience. While practicing, perhaps 95% of the time the tabla >> >player will play a steady "theka" while the vocalist or >> >instrumentalist practices rhythmic improvisations within the >> >framework of a composition. So the tabla machine serves this same >> >purpose - to give that "theka" to practice over. >> > >> >My advice if you're interested in a tabla machine (or any other >> >Indian instrument) is to see if someone you know is going to India, >> >then ask them to bring one back for you since the markup in the West > > >tends to be shockingly extreme. >> > >> >James >> >> -- >> >> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man >> persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress >> depends on the unreasonable man. >> >> -- George Bernard Shaw >> >> Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. >> Video Producer Image Processing Specialist >> Video for your HEAD! Boris FX >> http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com >> > > > > -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 00:00:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02539; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:58:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:58:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:59:04 -0500 Subject: boomrang update noise? From: Paul Sullivan To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been experiencing some static-like crackling intermittently with my upgraded boomerang (I bought the chip & installed it myself). Usually happens when it's first powered up, on the first loop I'll hear lots of static crackling in the playback. Then when I wipe that loop and do another, no more noise. Anyone else had this happen--any ideas? Thanks, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 00:20:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03925; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:18:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:18:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B32BA36.B35BDC6@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:23:34 -0400 From: ron911 Organization: Smith Law Office X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-bls40 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE References: <99.16818c5b.2861276b@aol.com> <000f01c0f918$236496e0$604f8eac@0017470167> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com UNSUBSCRIBE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 00:59:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA04554; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:57:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:57:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008f01c0fad8$82fd6b60$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: Subject: OT: Electrix questions Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:02:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01C0FA9D.D67D01A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C0FA9D.D67D01A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to know if there was an Electrix list or web forum in = effect? I have some questions- the delay on my Mo-Fx won't sync and my = Filter Factory has something loose inside... never thought I would = need/want more than 6 aux sends on my mixer but damn they are handy... = :) Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C0FA9D.D67D01A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just wanted to know if there was an = Electrix list=20 or web forum in effect? I have some questions- the delay on my = Mo-Fx won't=20 sync and my Filter Factory has something loose inside... never thought I = would=20 need/want more than 6 aux sends on my mixer but damn they are handy... = :) =20 Cliff
------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C0FA9D.D67D01A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 01:33:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06271; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:32:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:32:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c0fadc$e1d118e0$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: Subject: off topic--indulge me please Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:33:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0FABB.5A6264C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0FABB.5A6264C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others concerning = time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? Jehn ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0FABB.5A6264C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone else here have conflicts with = their=20 significant others concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with=20 them??
 
Jehn
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0FABB.5A6264C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 01:38:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06394; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:37:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:37:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "future perfect" To: Subject: RE: off topic--indulge me please Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:38:04 -0400 Message-ID: <002101c0fadd$847d6260$c61704d1@futureperfect> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0FABB.FD6BC260" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <001401c0fadc$e1d118e0$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <4nzxDD.A.sjB.rltM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0FABB.FD6BC260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit actually, she is included in most of the musical projects i do. the best part is arguing about who gets to use the looping pedal. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://www.hazardfactor.com Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? Jehn ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0FABB.FD6BC260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
actually, she is included in most = of the=20 musical projects i do. the best part is arguing about who gets to = use the=20 looping pedal.
 

Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices
http://www.hazardfactor.com
=  =20


Anyone else here have conflicts with = their=20 significant others concerning time spent doing music vs time spent = with=20 them??
 
Jehn
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0FABB.FD6BC260-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 01:41:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06501; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:40:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:40:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000c01c0fadd$1fc207e0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <001401c0fadc$e1d118e0$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:35:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0FABB.9874E580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0FABB.9874E580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes Jehn though it seems if i were "playing a guitar" or my violin or sitar = that's cool but sitting at the computer "composing" seems alien to some Sig = others... Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jehn=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:33 AM Subject: off topic--indulge me please Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others = concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? =20 Jehn ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0FABB.9874E580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes Jehn
though it seems if i were "playing a = guitar" or my=20 violin or sitar that's cool
but sitting at the computer "composing" = seems alien=20 to some Sig others...
 
 
 
Pat Pagano, Director
South East Just Intonation Society
http://indians.austral= ians.com/meherbaba/
http://www.screwmus= icforever.com/SHREESWIFT/
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jehn =
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 = 1:33 AM
Subject: off topic--indulge me=20 please

Anyone else here have conflicts with = their=20 significant others concerning time spent doing music vs time spent = with=20 them??
 
Jehn
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0FABB.9874E580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 01:43:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06602; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:42:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:42:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001901c0fadd$68e490a0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: <021901c0fac1$9227fc20$df9d0318@union1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: solo looping gig Fri. NYC Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:37:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0FABB.E198F4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <-BVSdC.A.CnB.cqtM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0FABB.E198F4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable May i recommend ALL you loopers dig Davids drones they are not only = technically up to speed but theoretically on line with Partch,Young and = Fripp for that matter If you are in Manhattan GO by all means David turned me on (thank Krishna) to the DL4 ...... go Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Beardsley=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:18 PM Subject: solo looping gig Fri. NYC As part of the World Out of Tune Festival:=20 Friday, June 22, 2001 David Beardsley=20 Blurry Day=20 microtones and drones - solo Just Intonation synthesizer=20 $10 =20 8:30 pm Sufi Books=20 227 West Broadway =20 New York, New York 10013=20 http://microtones.com/woot http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0FABB.E198F4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
May i recommend ALL you loopers dig = Davids drones=20 they are not only technically up to speed but theoretically on line with = Partch,Young and Fripp for that matter
If you are in Manhattan GO by all=20 means
David turned me on (thank Krishna) to = the=20 DL4
......
go
 
Pat Pagano, Director
South East Just Intonation Society
http://indians.austral= ians.com/meherbaba/
http://www.screwmus= icforever.com/SHREESWIFT/
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David = Beardsley
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 = 10:18=20 PM
Subject: solo looping gig Fri. = NYC

 As part of the World Out of Tune=20 Festival:=20

Friday, June 22,=20 2001

David=20 Beardsley

Blurry=20 Day
microtones and=20 drones - solo Just Intonation synthesizer

$10  =
8:30 pm
Sufi Books
227 West Broadway  =
New York, New York = 10013

http://microtones.com/woot &= nbsp;=20 http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley<= /P>

------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0FABB.E198F4E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 02:21:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA08223; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:19:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:19:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010622002355.00819210@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:23:55 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please In-Reply-To: <001401c0fadc$e1d118e0$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jehn, well, the last guy I dated was an audio engineer, so while he spent alot of time at the studio, I spent alot of time teaching or playing, so no, time wasn't an issue for us. We both had busy schedules, but were also able to see eachother quite alot. At least in my case though, music is my career, so potential mates already know that ahead of time. Music is just one aspect of my life though, and I think it's really important to find a nice balance. Sure, music is very important to me, but so is a healthy relationship. The trick is finding someone who feels the same for whatever they enjoy. Then I think it can work. *laughing* I know, stating the obvious! lol! -it's late... Anyway, night night everyone!... Smiles, Goddess At 01:33 AM 6/22/01 -0400, you wrote: > Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others >concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? Jehn --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 03:22:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA10175; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:20:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:20:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <118.a5b60d.28644b97@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:19:51 EDT Subject: Re: Monitor feedback To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > have had a bit of trouble with monitoring. > the conga mics are pointed downward and the monitors > are pointing upward. and though i have been able to > get rid of microphonic squeeling feedback by keeping > them off axis, the looper picks up the monitors when i am depends a lot on the mics, some will be much better than others (key phrase "even off-axis response") the ultimate for low pickup from monitors would be a mic with figure-8 response. These pickup equally from the front and rear of the mic, anything at 90 degrees is completely cancelled, so you can always point your mic such that neither monitor is picked up. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 04:09:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11991; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:08:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:08:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RMOUNEYR@bouyguestelecom.fr Message-Id: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6BED@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouyguestelecom.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: delay/looper Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:04:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi, do you like working with loops ? yes you do ! so ... Do some of you use either : - Lexicon Jamman - Oberheim Echoplex or equivalent ? Is it worth the money ? (it looks like yes) i'm interested in getting a sampler like machine to record loops on the fly for live mix. But these two machine only have 1 stereo output ! do you know other material that would have at least 4 outputs ? RAF. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 04:31:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12303; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:29:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:29:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: EDP feedback problem Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:28:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Definately try the old 'press parameters while booting up' to get it back to factory settings and if this doesn't work then it could well be the Feedback pot itself. You can get a replacement from Shane at the service center in Elgin, shane.radke@gibson.com, or send it to him for repair. The problem may also be the AD converter but I don't want to speculate on all possible causes until you've tried the easy stuff, Andy. > -----Original Message----- > From: kenn lowy [mailto:klowy@wrinklemuzik.com] > Sent: 21 June 2001 18:45 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: EDP feedback problem > > > my EDP has been working fine until one day it just decided that the > feedback part would not work at all! > > i have had a pedal controlling it for several years. even when i > unplug the pedal, it still never fades the loop even when feedback is > on 0. > > any thoughts??? > > klowy - wrinklemuzik > nyc > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 05:08:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14126; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:05:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:05:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <3e.d69e1d3.28646424@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:04:36 EDT Subject: Re:tabla To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > going further into the drumming thing... are there any tabla players on this > list? I'm learning, so far I'm up to putting on the heads + a few basic strokes. For 'tabla' looping I'm working on getting imitative sounds from guitar .(easier on fretless bass) .....andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 05:09:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14127; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:05:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:05:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <11e.a54652.28646426@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:04:38 EDT Subject: EDP's just turned up To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: <24WRwD.A.hcD.powM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Andy, yes, I know 2 people who might like an EDP, don't think they have the cash however , (i'll try and tempt them) if you don't see this on LD:- Well it's been a long wait (here in UK) , but 2 EPDs finally turned up on the doorstep last friday. so some EDP questions 1) I want to be able to switch from one loop to another at any time, but always start the new loop from the beginning, can I do this without a MIDI controller? 2) Wasn't there talk on the list about an EDP bug during stereo operation, where the loops change over at different times? 3)So I've got a stereo loop going, and I put the 2 loops out of sync (by going into reverse for a bit on one machine), how can I get the loops re-synced? 4)Whats the easiest way to toggle whether one unit midi-controls the other. EDP favourite features. 1) the ability to overdub on any loop and have the overdub control the loop length ( by finishing overdub with record) . this means I can OD a rhythm on top of an 'ambient' loop and end up with the rhythm repeating in time with a cut off version of the ambient loop in the background. 2) starting with a stereo loop , but multiplying the two sides differently. (3 against 4, for instance) then any overdubs will sometimes appear in full stereo, but more often they'll be split from side to side EDP comments 1) I get a real impression that this was designed in stages, simple functions first, with more complex additions later. So easy to start with, and learn the other functions later. 2) The MIDI implementation seems to be sequencer orientated, rather than for a foot controller. (the "long press" idea) In a future upgrade maybe it would be nice to access the various parameters by the value sent with the continuos controllers. (at current time I think only values 0 & 64 are used) Well I really like these machines, many thanks to Matthias & Kim (etc) and of course to Andy Ewen at Trace andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 05:09:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14177; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:06:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:06:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015701c0fafa$c5148c00$d943f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106220459.AAA05672@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: quick responses to a couple of questions form the DRUMMERS chain Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:07:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Someone wrote this and i copied it an promptly accidentally erased the original and forgot who it is (he says sheepishly): "It's very cool but playing with one hand and Pressing the EDP footswitch with the other is not only tolerable because I have no other option." I play with either a permanently closed hi hat (or suitable alternative ;-) or I use a regular hi hat. Either way, I put my looping on/off pedals immediately to the left of my heel plate on the hi hat stand and have practised looping with my heel while still putting pressure on the ball of my foot to keep the hi hat closed....It only took me about ten minutes of practise before I got it wired. this way I get to use all four limbs in my trapset playing and still loop myself Dennis Leas asked: "How do you mic your ghatams? I play an udu that has a small hole for a mic in the "neck". I use an el cheapo Radio Shacko mic ($25) and it works great!" I just use a beta 58 and I experiment with placement in each situation. I have a brass/copper spittoon ghatam, a purple glass ghatam, a liquid glass ghatam (flower pot with water in it), a gourd ghatam and an antique aluminum milk jug ghatam..........oh yeah and I have a custom made four note ceramic ghatam and one of those LP small Udu drums which is actually one of my least favorite instruments of this class. You are right, that radio shack $25 mic rocks!!! so do their $3 piezo elements that end up being the exact same pickup found in the $125 oud pickup that I purchased recently. If you are into contact mics, go buy a gang of them because radio shack just dicontinued them, apparently yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 05:13:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14480; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:10:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:10:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006c01c0fafb$19088d20$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <001401c0fadc$e1d118e0$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:09:51 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0005 Resent-Message-ID: <9hwRdD.A._hD.ftwM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have to admit YES, but of course they're silent ones - we're not married a year yet - where I've been up to my usual late hour working on something and come to bed, and she's obviously awake but badly pretends she's asleep - then tells me the next morning that she couldn't get to sleep with me not there. Anyone else been through this? Yeah, somehow I know the answer there. Also, it's tough to compose rhythm and most other stuff when your wife's playing Lara Croft and killing lots of things in the same room, you know? Other than that, FINE. [grinding teeth] Happy Solstice everyone! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jehn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: 22 June 2001 06:33 AM Subject: off topic--indulge me please Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? Jehn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 05:26:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14866; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:25:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:25:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015a01c0fafd$62d6fb60$d943f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106220001.UAA27834@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: OT: Tabla loops, samples and my Indian Rhythm mistatements Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:26:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <5PaDjB.A.JoD.87wM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sorry for my innacurate statement about Indian rhythm: I guess what I meant to say is that in practise the focus of most of the tabla playing that I have heard has been the ornamentation over the thekas (if my terminology is correct here). Of course the talas are repetitive but there is a distinct difference between the way most Indian classical drummers approach rhythms as opposed to the way West African drummers approach rhythms. African drumming seems to be much more 'part' oriented with the emphasis on the sound of all of the parts interlocking (without a tremendous amount of variation) as opposed to the more individualist, 'commentary' oriented tabla players. Neither one is better or worse (though don't get some african or indian musicians or, worse yet, students of african or indian musicians who are not originally from the culture going on this subject........it'll never end). The african approach is much simpler. I did an improvisational duet concert with my good friend Debhashish Battycharya (the hindustani slide master) where I only used ostinato groove rhythms from the african paradigm and the middleeastern paradigm. It produced some interesting results, particularly as Debhashish is an incredible rhythmatist, soaring over the 'grooves' I laid down for him. He has totally inpired me to get a lot deeper with polyrhythmic and polymetric phrasing. I have used looping techniques to learn how to phrase in any time signature against any other time signature. I just find it fascinating that most people who use tabla samples (including Indian masters like Talvin Singh) end up having them sound like they have a west african or african diaspora rhythmic sensibility. Of course the rhythmic sensibility of the african diaspora has dominated modern global pop music.........witness the ubiquitous nature of the backbeat in pop. I did an improvisational duet concert with my good friend Debhashish Battycharya (the hindustani slide master) where I only used ostinato groove rhythms from the african paradigm and the middleeastern paradigm. It produced some interesting results, particularly as Debhashish is an incredible rhythmatist, soaring over the 'grooves' I laid down for him. He has totally inpired me to get a lot deeper with polyrhythmic and polymetric phrasing. I have used looping techniques to learn how to phrase in any time signature against any other time signature. Please pardon the ignorance of my earlier statement. yours, Rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 05:39:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA15115; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:38:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:38:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: SoundFNR@aol.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: EDP's just turned up Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:36:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <77O9JB.A.CsD.iHxM7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Very glad you're now up and running. I'll leave the function questions to more experienced EDP users, I'm sure you'll get good response from these guys. All you UK Loopers out there; I have about 80 left in stock before we make more and I will sell direct, just mail me or call 01621 851851, Cheers, Andy. > -----Original Message----- > From: SoundFNR@aol.com [mailto:SoundFNR@aol.com] > Sent: 22 June 2001 10:05 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Cc: andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com > Subject: EDP's just turned up > > > Hi Andy, > > yes, I know 2 people who might like an EDP, don't think they have > the cash however , (i'll try and tempt them) > > if you don't see this on LD:- > > Well it's been a long wait (here in UK) , > but 2 EPDs finally turned up on the doorstep last friday. > > so some EDP questions > 1) I want to be able to switch from one loop to another at > any time, but always start the new loop from the beginning, > can I do this without a MIDI controller? > > 2) Wasn't there talk on the list about an EDP bug during stereo > operation, where the loops change over at different times? > > 3)So I've got a stereo loop going, and I put the 2 loops out of > sync (by going into reverse for a bit on one machine), how can > I get the loops re-synced? > > 4)Whats the easiest way to toggle whether one unit midi-controls > the other. > > EDP favourite features. > 1) the ability to overdub on any loop and have the overdub control > the loop length ( by finishing overdub with record) . > this means I can OD a rhythm on top of an 'ambient' loop and end up > with the rhythm repeating in time with a cut off version of > the ambient loop > in > the background. > > 2) starting with a stereo loop , but multiplying the two > sides differently. > (3 against 4, for instance) > then any overdubs will sometimes appear in full stereo, but more often > they'll be split from side to side > > EDP comments > 1) I get a real impression that this was designed in stages, simple > functions first, with more complex additions later. > So easy to start with, and learn the other functions later. > > 2) The MIDI implementation seems to be sequencer orientated, > rather than for a foot controller. (the "long press" idea) > In a future upgrade maybe it would be nice to access the various > parameters by the value sent with the continuos controllers. > (at current time I think only values 0 & 64 are used) > > Well I really like these machines, many thanks to Matthias & Kim (etc) > and of course to Andy Ewen at Trace > > andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 05:47:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA15338; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:46:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:46:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <127.4b1e34.28646dbc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:45:32 EDT Subject: Re: EDP errata To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 1) the ability to overdub on any loop and have the overdub control the loop length ( by finishing overdub with record) . ...er thats (by finishing MULTIPLY by record) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 07:08:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA18685; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:06:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:06:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <11f.a1da6c.28648090@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:05:52 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP?Boss? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com nickschillace@hotmail.com writes: >The thing I'm worried about with the Repeater is that >it seems to require a set beat measurement, like 4 to the bar or whatever. no, that's not true. you can record as ya like, & divide it/name the bpm after-the-fact if so desired. and, as i said: the EDP is available now, inna buncha places. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 08:07:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA20385; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:05:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:05:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:06:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP? Boss? From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200106220459.AAA05673@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3076041982_46269_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3076041982_46269_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The thing I'm worried about with the Repeater is that it seems to require a set beat measurement, like 4 to the bar or whatever. Reading the manual, it seemed that it also requires an even number of multiplications of the original loop. Does anybody know if this is true? It's a concern of mine, too, and basically made me go for the EDP. --MS_Mac_OE_3076041982_46269_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Repeater?EDP? Boss?
The thing I'm worried abou= t with the Repeater is that
it seems to= require a set beat measurement, like 4 to the bar or whatever.

 Reading the manual, it seemed that it also re= quires an even number of multiplications of the original loop. Does anybody = know if this is true? It's a concern of mine, too, and basically made me go = for the EDP.
 --MS_Mac_OE_3076041982_46269_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 08:12:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA20565; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:11:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:11:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005401c0fb14$c124b560$189b4e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Tabla loops, samples and my Indian Rhythm mistatements Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:13:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick wrote: >Sorry for my innacurate statement about Indian rhythm: No need to apologize. I wasn't trying to flame you, just giving my two cents' worth from long training in ICM. >I guess what I meant >to say is that in practise the focus of most of the tabla playing that I >have heard has been the ornamentation over the thekas (if my terminology is >correct here). In solo drumming the theka is all but ignored, and used as just a reference point between extended cycles of improvisation. When accompanying singers or instrumentalists, though, the theka is heard almost exclusively, although it's acceptable to make small variations like doubling a stroke or leaving it silent. Many instrumentalists prefer a more robust, challenging, as you called it "commentary" type of accompaniment where the tabla player will echo the instrument's phrases, play cross rhythms against the melody, etc. This is a very recent innovation, only from the last 40 years or so. Vocalists still prefer to have only the theka, not the added ornamentation. >Of course the talas are repetitive but there is a distinct difference >between the way most Indian classical drummers approach rhythms as opposed >to the way West African drummers approach rhythms. >African drumming seems to be much more >'part' oriented with the emphasis on the sound of all of the parts >interlocking (without a tremendous amount of variation) as opposed to the >more individualist, >'commentary' oriented tabla players. That's true -- on the whole Indian music is much more geared to the individual as opposed to an ensemble with multiple parts. So in North Indian music ususally a performance of classical music would be a very small ensemble of vocalist or instrumentalist, accompanied by a single drummer and a drone background. In fact it's not really thought of as an "ensemble" at all -- more of a soloist (vocal or instrumental) accompanied by drum and drone. >Neither one is better or worse You couldn't have said it better! They are two separate aesthetics -- it's "apples and oranges" and any attempt to say one has more worth is ridiculous. It's like saying water is better than air. >(though don't get some african or indian >musicians or, worse yet, students of african or indian musicians who are not >originally from the culture going on this subject........it'll never end). Aha! The zeal of the converted. I know it well. >I did an improvisational duet concert with my good friend Debhashish >Battycharya (the hindustani slide master) where I only used >ostinato groove rhythms from the african paradigm and the middleeastern >paradigm. >It produced some interesting results, particularly as Debhashish is an >incredible >rhythmatist, soaring over the 'grooves' I laid down for him. He has totally >inpired me to get a lot deeper with polyrhythmic and polymetric phrasing. I >have used looping techniques to learn how to phrase in any time signature >against any other time signature. In Indian music the soloist (vocal or instrumental) is at the top of the musical hierarchy in a performance setting. This means that they have full control of what raga gets sung or played, as well as which taal it will be performed in, at what tempo, etc. I once was asked to accompany a great pakhawaj (older, deeper sounding drum than the tabla) master, Pandit Arjun Shejwal, for a tour of solo pakhawaj performances. So our roles were reversed - he was the soloist and I was the timekeeping accompanist. I played a repetitive timekeeping melody called "lehera" (the melodic equivalent of theka) on the sitar while he improvised incedibly complex rhythmic patterns within and against the taal. It was quite humbling, trying to keep perfect time while playing the same unornamented melody for over an hour at a stretch, especially since Panditji was utiling the entire array of cross-rhythms, halving/doubling/quadrupling/octupling the taal, playing elastic phrases that stretched across several cycles of the taal, using complex tihais, etc. The whole experience gave me a chance to see how the other half (drummers) lived, and gave me a deep respect for percussionists. >I just find it fascinating that most people who use tabla samples (including >Indian masters like Talvin Singh) end up having them >sound like they have a west african or african diaspora rhythmic >sensibility. >Of course the rhythmic sensibility of the african diaspora has dominated >modern global >pop music.........witness the ubiquitous nature of the backbeat in pop. That's true. In Indian pop/film music there's a very healthy dose of both African and Western elements, with only minimal input from classical Indian sources. >Please pardon the ignorance of my earlier statement. Again, no apology needed. There was no "ignorance" at all - you were describing what you hear in tabla playing. I was just commenting, not trying to provoke a flame war. It's a big world getting smaller all the time, so it's a fertile time for diverse musical traditions. James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 08:25:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA20829; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:24:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:24:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Transceovr@aol.com Message-ID: <37.16db67ee.286492dc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:23:56 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Tabla loops, samples and my Indian Rhythm mistatements To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 6/22/2001 5:25:40 AM, GLOBAL@cruzio.com writes: << though don't get some african or indian musicians or, worse yet, students of african or indian musicians who are not originally from the culture going on this subject........it'll never end >> haha, thats so true... I think when you brush aside all of the theory which is important and has its place you find that the only thing left is the most important... the beat... whether it is indian or african or brazilian etc etc... the beat started somewhere and you can find as many similarities as differences when you look closely at drumming in many cultures... as someone who studies north indian classical drumming I have had many a conversation about this with my instructor because I began drumming on kit and soon picked up djembe and for a few years now have been strictly studying tabla... I find that my djembe playing is now pretty different and largely influenced by tabla. Im glad to learn that there are many drumming musicians on the list!!! off to work, K. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 08:58:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21256; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:56:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:56:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002f01c0fb1b$bcf908e0$0100a8c0@gaut> From: "Gauthier Segay" To: References: <200106040131.VAA03246@hemlock.violacea.com> <3B1B0E75.419C@Hevanet.Com.> Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out please help! Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:03:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <28FSYD.A._LF.3B0M7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi everybody, i'm located at montreal and really want to purchase Mo-Fx and Filter Factory at blow out price, can anyone help me by giving to me a local dealer (Montreal) where I can purchase these devices. Many thanks! Gauthier ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 08:59:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21379; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:58:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:58:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <12a.687d22.28649ac6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:57:42 EDT Subject: Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12a.687d22.28649ac6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_12a.687d22.28649ac6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/21/01 7:59:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net writes: > james.....thank you.....michael --part1_12a.687d22.28649ac6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/21/01 7:59:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net writes:


if you're interested in a tabla machine


james.....thank you.....michael --part1_12a.687d22.28649ac6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 09:11:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22725; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:10:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:10:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Matt Jacques" To: Subject: RE: Electrix blow-out please help! Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:07:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002f01c0fb1b$bcf908e0$0100a8c0@gaut> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello Gauthier, I am in Canada too (sask), and had a VERY hard time even finding a dealer who knew about Electrix. Which is a shame because of course Electrix is a canadian company! Anyways, I talked to the people directly at Electrix and they told me the blow out price only relates to a few retailers in the United States ONLY. I was interested in the Mo-Fx and Filter Factory just like you, and I managed to find both but only by phoning some smaller U.S. retailers who were willing to price-match the blow out price (only Musician's Friend and Guitar Centre officially). MF and GC don't even deliver to Canada! Go to the Electrix website (www.electrixpro.com) and look up the american retailers, then start phoning a few of them to find 1) Do they have the units in stock? 2) Will they match the blowout price? 3) Will they ship to canada? That's all I can suggest... Good Luck! Matt -----Original Message----- From: Gauthier Segay [mailto:gauthier-s@ifrance.com] Sent: 2001mm22 7:03 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out please help! Hi everybody, i'm located at montreal and really want to purchase Mo-Fx and Filter Factory at blow out price, can anyone help me by giving to me a local dealer (Montreal) where I can purchase these devices. Many thanks! Gauthier ____________________________________________________________________________ __ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 09:44:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23064; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:42:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:42:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <029c01c0fb21$f29ad5e0$df9d0318@union1.nj.home.com> From: "David Beardsley" To: References: <021901c0fac1$9227fc20$df9d0318@union1.nj.home.com> <001901c0fadd$68e490a0$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: solo looping gig Fri. NYC Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:47:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0299_01C0FB00.6B13B7C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <3w6YQB.A.OoF.9s0M7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0299_01C0FB00.6B13B7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks! Om Ganesh! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: shreeswifty=20 May i recommend ALL you loopers dig Davids drones they are not only = technically up to speed but theoretically on line with Partch,Young and = Fripp for that matter If you are in Manhattan GO by all means David turned me on (thank Krishna) to the DL4 ...... go ------=_NextPart_000_0299_01C0FB00.6B13B7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks! Om Ganesh!
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May i recommend ALL you loopers dig = Davids drones=20 they are not only technically up to speed but theoretically on line = with=20 Partch,Young and Fripp for that matter
If you are in Manhattan GO by all=20 means
David turned me on (thank Krishna) to = the=20 DL4
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------=_NextPart_000_0299_01C0FB00.6B13B7C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 10:10:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24705; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:09:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:09:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B33508E.122C90BB@fullcompass.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:05:02 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: boomrang update noise? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have not had that problem with my upgrade. Call Mike at Boomerang and replace it. - Jim Paul Sullivan wrote: > > I've been experiencing some static-like crackling intermittently with my > upgraded boomerang (I bought the chip & installed it myself). Usually > happens when it's first powered up, on the first loop I'll hear lots of > static crackling in the playback. Then when I wipe that loop and do another, > no more noise. Anyone else had this happen--any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 10:54:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25474; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:52:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:52:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003a01c0fb2b$e42ffe90$6e69fac2@gauthier> From: "Gauthier Segay" To: References: Subject: Re: Electrix blow-out please help! Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:36:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for your helpfull advice :) I keep a very little hope to find this device... > Hello Gauthier, I am in Canada too (sask), and had a VERY hard time even > finding a dealer who knew about Electrix. Which is a shame because of course > Electrix is a canadian company! Anyways, I talked to the people directly at > Electrix and they told me the blow out price only relates to a few retailers > in the United States ONLY. > > I was interested in the Mo-Fx and Filter Factory just like you, and I > managed to find both but only by phoning some smaller U.S. retailers who > were willing to price-match the blow out price (only Musician's Friend and > Guitar Centre officially). MF and GC don't even deliver to Canada! Go to > the Electrix website (www.electrixpro.com) and look up the american > retailers, then start phoning a few of them to find 1) Do they have the > units in stock? 2) Will they match the blowout price? 3) Will they ship to > canada? > > That's all I can suggest... Good Luck! > Matt ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 10:55:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25706; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:54:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:54:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doctort@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001401c0fadc$e1d118e0$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> References: <001401c0fadc$e1d118e0$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:35:32 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 1:33 AM -0400 6/22/01, Jehn wrote: >Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others >concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? > >Jehn Its happened. Once a long -time girl-friend got mad and decided to break up when I spent a day in the studio instead of with her. She changed her mind a day later, but I had realized that the relationship was 'stuck' anyway, and decided that the breakup was wise. Some years later, she introduced me to the woman who is now my wife! -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 10:57:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25959; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:56:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:56:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:16:43 +0200 Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <15DRll-1pPqeuC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id KAA25891 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com An optional way of Midi-Guitar is to use the Roland GK2A Pickup and the Roland GI10 interface. This device has no "Soundsection".nevertheless it is very flexible. With this device you can Miditrigger all kinds of soundmodules.(You can do it also with the a full GR30 for example),but I didn´t wanted another synth,so I choosed the GI10. The thing I don´t like at GR1,GR09.GR30 and GR33 is the fact,that manipulation of the sound is not amazing.They are more presetplayers. Try to get a used Ensoniq EPS16+R,this is a fine Sampler,wich offers the GuitarMidiMonoMode. The sounds are cool and the library is big.And it should be really cheap now. There are so many possibilities for used synths at a small price. Another Guitar Midi Interface is from AXXON,they trigger a little faster as the Rolands and have more options.They use also the GK2A. ---------- >Von: Goddess >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? >Datum: Don, 21. Jun 2001 20:49 Uhr > > Hello, as far as I know, the least expensive way to get into a midi >capable instrument, would be to first, buy an innexpensive guitar that you >feel plays well and then purchase a roland GK-2-A pickup, which you'll need >to install on the instrument. After that, you might consider looking for >a used Roland guitar synthesizer, I.E. GR-1 , or GR-30. Actually, it >occurrs to me as I'm writing this, that there was also a super inexpensive >digitech system several years ago, called the Pitch Rider, which consisted >of a pickup and a single rackspace unit, which seemed pretty nice. You >might also be able to find a used Casio (I hope I spelled that right) >synth guitar, which to my knowledge, is an all-in-one guitar synthesizer. >Anyway, hope this helps, and I'm sure there'll be many others on the list >who have great suggestions. -Good luck! > >Smiles, > >Goddess > >At 06:30 PM 6/21/01 +0800, you wrote: >>All the loopers, >> >>I am a guitar player who wants to get into midi world . I have so little >>money ,but I need a useful midi guitar to translate me playing to midi >>information . If you have some good ideas ,please tell me . And if someone >>has midi guitars to sell .Tell me also.Thanks! >> By the way, I am looking for drum loops , please give some web sites which >>can give loops. >> I am new here ,I hope I can be friends with all of you .Thanks again. >>Best Regards >>Anotherbbs >> >> >> > > >--- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. >-Then, anything is possible..." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 11:02:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27380; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:01:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:01:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005701c0fb2d$2984c100$6e69fac2@gauthier> From: "Gauthier Segay" To: Subject: Boss DR 660 and Sysex messages Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:08:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01C0FB3D.EB5EA880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: <3Y_fu.A.lrG.O21M7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C0FB3D.EB5EA880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a little question to ask about this little drum machine midi = implementation: I have a midi controller (Doepfer Drehbank) and want to assign his knob = to the pad's parameters (level, decay, pan...) but this drummachine only = recognize Sysex and i don't know if it can handle these message while = playing... and all my tries have deffect with these messages. Is there anyone which is able to control pad's parameters with midi = (sequencer or controller...)? Sorry for my crap english! Gauthier ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C0FB3D.EB5EA880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a little question to ask about = this little=20 drum machine midi implementation:
I have a midi controller (Doepfer = Drehbank) and=20 want to assign his knob to the pad's parameters (level, decay, pan...) = but this=20 drummachine only recognize Sysex and i don't know if it can handle = these=20 message while playing...
and all my tries have deffect with = these=20 messages.
Is there anyone which is able to = control pad's=20 parameters with midi (sequencer or controller...)?
 
Sorry for my crap english!
 
Gauthier
------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C0FB3D.EB5EA880-- ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 11:16:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27977; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:14:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:14:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002e01c0fb2e$2aae3060$d439f618@oemcomputer.spardil.mediacom.ispchannel.com> Reply-To: "Eric Williamson" From: "Eric Williamson" To: Subject: RDS sync fun Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:15:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com does anyone here get l00ping work done with digitech RDS (i have both the 7.6 and the 8000) units, synced using the "trigger pulse" input? i was mildly coorious. Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 11:44:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28617; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:43:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:43:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3375BE.39D9EE56@cabq.gov> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:43:42 -0700 From: Jason Fink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please References: <001401c0fadc$e1d118e0$ff882141@cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Spouse: "Are you gonna play that guitar all day?" Daughter #1: "Where's Dad?" Spouse: "Over where he always is, with his guitar" Spouse: "Another package for you came in the mail" Me: " Cool, the Filter Factory Blow-out!" Spouse "Grrrrrr" Geeeze, you'd think she would be happy that I am at home playing, instead of all the trouble I could get into with my old punk band buddies. And so what if the kids are going barefoot so I can buy a Repeater...the loops are top priority! later, -jas http://www.zebox.com/artists/dimbulb.html Jehn wrote: > Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others > concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? Jehn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 12:25:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30483; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:23:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:23:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: off topic--indulge me please Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:18:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As long as I've put in some hours in the garden and cleaning house, my wife lets me do what I want. Sometimes I lament she's not involved in the musical creativity, but getting psychic space to do my thing is a gift, and I know that's something not to take for granted. IT could be worse. Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:36 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please > > > At 1:33 AM -0400 6/22/01, Jehn wrote: > >Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others > >concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? > > > >Jehn > > Its happened. Once a long -time girl-friend got mad and decided to > break up when I spent a day in the studio instead of with her. She > changed her mind a day later, but I had realized that the > relationship was 'stuck' anyway, and decided that the breakup was > wise. > > Some years later, she introduced me to the woman who is now my wife! > -- > > "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man > persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress > depends on the unreasonable man. > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 13:54:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00731; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:53:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:53:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:51:34 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2001 17:51:34.0700 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA4B66C0:01C0FB43] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you go this route, may I also suggest the Yamaha G50. It too is a MIDI interface so it is a good choice if you already have synths and samplers that you like. The problem that I have with a lot of the newer Roland dedicated guitar synths is that they are pretty much a "what-you-see-is-what-you-get" deal. They aren't true MIDI translation devices. They track fine if you just want to play their own internal sounds, but if you try to MIDI out to other devices, forget it. (An ability you must have if you'd like to do stuff like trigger samplers or even ATTEMPT to record to a MIDI sequencer.) The Yamaha G50 is good. It uses the Axxon "neural net" technology, so it tracks almost as good as those high-end systems,(and I am a bass player who uses it on a 5-string) but you can usually find them used for a little more than the Roland GI10. It also uses the 13-pin connector, so you can use it with the GK2a, Yamahas G1D, the Axxon pickup, or any of the compatible piezo systems. >From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:16:43 +0200 > >An optional way of Midi-Guitar is to use the Roland GK2A Pickup and the >Roland GI10 interface. >This device has no "Soundsection".nevertheless it is very flexible. >With this device you can Miditrigger all kinds of soundmodules.(You can do >it also with the a >full GR30 for example),but I didn´t wanted another synth,so I choosed the >GI10. >The thing I don´t like at GR1,GR09.GR30 and GR33 is the fact,that >manipulation of the sound is >not amazing.They are more presetplayers. >Try to get a used Ensoniq EPS16+R,this is a fine Sampler,wich offers the >GuitarMidiMonoMode. >The sounds are cool and the library is big.And it should be really cheap >now. >There are so many possibilities for used synths at a small price. > >Another Guitar Midi Interface is from AXXON,they trigger a little faster as >the Rolands and have >more options.They use also the GK2A. > > >---------- > >Von: Goddess > >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Betreff: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? > >Datum: Don, 21. Jun 2001 20:49 Uhr > > > > > Hello, as far as I know, the least expensive way to get into a midi > >capable instrument, would be to first, buy an innexpensive guitar that >you > >feel plays well and then purchase a roland GK-2-A pickup, which you'll >need > >to install on the instrument. After that, you might consider looking >for > >a used Roland guitar synthesizer, I.E. GR-1 , or GR-30. Actually, it > >occurrs to me as I'm writing this, that there was also a super >inexpensive > >digitech system several years ago, called the Pitch Rider, which >consisted > >of a pickup and a single rackspace unit, which seemed pretty nice. You > >might also be able to find a used Casio (I hope I spelled that right) > >synth guitar, which to my knowledge, is an all-in-one guitar synthesizer. > >Anyway, hope this helps, and I'm sure there'll be many others on the list > >who have great suggestions. -Good luck! > > > >Smiles, > > > >Goddess > > > >At 06:30 PM 6/21/01 +0800, you wrote: > >>All the loopers, > >> > >>I am a guitar player who wants to get into midi world . I have so little > >>money ,but I need a useful midi guitar to translate me playing to midi > >>information . If you have some good ideas ,please tell me . And if >someone > >>has midi guitars to sell .Tell me also.Thanks! > >> By the way, I am looking for drum loops , please give some web sites >which > >>can give loops. > >> I am new here ,I hope I can be friends with all of you .Thanks again. > >>Best Regards > >>Anotherbbs > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >--- > > > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > >-Then, anything is possible..." > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 14:13:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02446; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:12:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:12:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002001c0fb47$0a8c71c0$151648ce@0017470167> From: "Q" To: References: Subject: david torn website Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:13:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I seem to have forgotten but... does anyone know David Torn's website address? Thanks! -Andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 14:13:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02443; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:12:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:12:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B338B16.4671B939@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:14:49 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: iyam@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looper for sale References: <200106211731.NAA08809@hemlock.violacea.com> <3B32632C.2ED0F0F1@cloud9.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com no no smart guy I'm not for sale, but one of my loop tools is I'm going to pass on my Korg DL8000R it is pretty easy to use good realtime control good midi implementation very good sound quality mono or stereo 10 seconds avail really unique delay and rythmic delay efx as well its in as new condition w/ orig manual w/o fact box looking for $300 I'm also selling a digitech 2101, I mention this because there has been some discussion of this unit here(although yes I know we're not all gtr players) and this is a special unit. I just got it from paul muniz head of artist relations at harmon and it is tricked out w/ all the extra's, if your at all interested in a 2101 you need to contact me. it has; orig unit w/ spkr compensated xlr outs PPC210 dual proc card, artist V3 ROM (newest) some factory tweaks including faster proc clock speed 2101 foot controller(also like new) w/ 2 cables, FC gig bag(new) and extra's parts from digitech manuals in orig fact shipping box this is a special unit recieved direct from the factory @ mo ago, very cool peace ya'll oh and my wife used to be IN a punk band she no longer plays but is very supportive of me but then again I know to give her some energy now and then if I'm going to continue to disappear from time to time w/ my instruments From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 14:33:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03173; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:31:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:31:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.74.110.79] From: "Nick Schillace" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: off topic--indulge me please Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:30:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2001 18:30:54.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[78974DA0:01C0FB49] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: "Neil Goldstein" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: RE: off topic--indulge me please >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:18:38 -0700 > >As long as I've put in some hours in the garden and cleaning house, my wife >lets me do what I want. Sometimes I lament she's not involved in the >musical >creativity, but getting psychic space to do my thing is a gift, and I know >that's something not to take for granted. IT could be worse. > >Neil > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:36 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please > > > > > > At 1:33 AM -0400 6/22/01, Jehn wrote: > > >Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others > > >concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? > > > > > >Jehn > > > > Its happened. Once a long -time girl-friend got mad and decided to > > break up when I spent a day in the studio instead of with her. She > > changed her mind a day later, but I had realized that the > > relationship was 'stuck' anyway, and decided that the breakup was > > wise. > > > > Some years later, she introduced me to the woman who is now my wife! > > -- > > > > "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man > > persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress > > depends on the unreasonable man. > > > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > > Video Producer Image Processing Specialist > > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > > > My significant other is a photographer and is real into her art. She doesn't get as obsessed as I do, but it still bugs her that no matter how much time I spend in my studio, I complain that I need more. The solution, kinda, was to help build her a dark room adjacent to my basement studio. It helps keep us working together even if were not realy working on the same thing. As a bonus I often have to work in total darkness when she's developing film. N _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 14:35:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03397; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:34:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:34:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c0fb49$b7cfb0c0$dfa81597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <002001c0fb47$0a8c71c0$151648ce@0017470167> Subject: Re: david torn website Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:32:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com David's website address is www.gaalore.com/davidtorn/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Q" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: david torn website > I seem to have forgotten but... > does anyone know David Torn's website address? > > Thanks! > > -Andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 14:43:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03777; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:42:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:42:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B33926C.58B965DF@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:54:51 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please References: <3.0.5.32.20010622002355.00819210@mail.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2nQysD.A.56.HG5M7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Goddess wrote: > Jehn, well, the last guy I dated was an audio engineer, so while he spent > alot of time at the studio, I spent alot of time teaching or playing, so > no, time wasn't an issue for us. We both had busy schedules, but were also > able to see eachother quite alot. At least in my case though, music is my > career, so potential mates already know that ahead of time. Music is just > one aspect of my life though, and I think it's really important to find a > nice balance. Sure, music is very important to me, but so is a > healthy relationship. The trick is finding someone who feels the same for > whatever they enjoy. Then I think it can work. *laughing* I know, > stating the obvious! lol! -it's late... Anyway, night night > everyone!... > > Smiles, > > Goddess > > At 01:33 AM 6/22/01 -0400, you wrote: > > Anyone else here have conflicts with their significant others > >concerning time spent doing music vs time spent with them?? Jehn > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." i've found this also to be true. my wife and i share a design studio together, so it's usually not a question of "spending time" more an issue of "how spending time"...one thing we've done which seems to work pretty well is to set aside specific evenings for our individual work (or fun & games as the case may be...); so, once (or if i'm lucky, twice) a week is my music night, and she gets a night or two to do her thing, which is mostly writing and studying...so far, it's gone really well- it also gives us each a break from the responsibilities of raising our 8-year old daughter (and she is now old enough to understand that we each need our "separate" creative time)...if music were my career, i suppose things would be a bit different- but i think it's really essential for a healthy relationship that each person be allowed enough time for their personal creative growth. can't imagine not having it! lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 14:57:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04261; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:55:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:55:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:54:44 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA04215 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > it also gives us each a break from the responsibilities of raising our 8-year old daughter (and she is now old enough to understand that we each need our "separate" creative time)...if music were my career, i suppose things would be a bit different- but i think it's really essential for a healthy relationship that each person be allowed enough time for their personal creative growth. can't imagine not having it! lance g. With a 5 year old son, I can see that it's gradually starting to shift to a less 'constant-demand' sorta thing... He's realizing that we both have our interests (although he's far more demanding on mom for her time... I believe that's an Oedipal thing). He's also more interested in doing a bit of his own stuff... play, read etc... So I'll bet when he's 8 things will be even more balanced. It would be a shame to sacrifice my family to music... that would be a sad loss... I want a balance that works so I can keep doing it! -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 15:45:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06841; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:43:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:43:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB39C@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: off topic--indulge me please Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:41:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0FB53.663A2D80" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FB53.663A2D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" forgetting what the original post was - - something about problems with a spouse/significant other who may not be happy with time spent on music?? are you looking for advice - - or for kindred spirits? my situation: i live with (mostly) a saint. she's put up with a lot of weird time issues from me - - just being married to me would be hard enough for most people, but we have 6-year-old twins on top of it. she's an artist who has done shows nationally and one way we deal with stuff is to make sure that we both have enough time together and in our respective creative endeavors. as i tend to be very aggressive in making sure that i get my, i try to be very aware of making sure that she gets enough time for both relationship and work. easier said than done and, with our schedules and two burgeoning young human beings in the house, the marriage is the part of the balancing act that suffers most often. is there tension? you bet. do we handle it for the most part? i like to think so. as far as kids go. i think that they can see that there's a whole 'nother way of life beyond the 9-5, watch tv thang. hopefully their parents are involved and growing people - - i hope it rubs off on my kids. there are times when the kids don't dig it . . . but they like to hang with mom in her studio and they like to come in and play some of my instruments, maybe they're picking stuff up by osmosis . . . stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FB53.663A2D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: off topic--indulge me please

forgetting what the original post was - - something = about problems with a spouse/significant other who may not be happy = with time spent on music??

are you looking for advice - - or for kindred = spirits?


my situation:

i live with (mostly) a saint. she's put up with a lot = of weird time issues from me - - just being married to me would be hard = enough for most people, but we have 6-year-old twins on top of = it.

she's an artist who has done shows nationally and one = way we deal with stuff is to make sure that we both have enough time = together and in our respective creative endeavors. as i tend to be very = aggressive in making sure that i get my, i try to be very aware of = making sure that she gets enough time for both relationship and work. = easier said than done and, with our schedules and two burgeoning young = human beings in the house, the marriage is the part of the balancing = act that suffers most often. is there tension? you bet. do we handle it = for the most part? i like to think so.

as far as kids go. i think that they can see that = there's a whole 'nother way of life beyond the 9-5, watch tv thang. = hopefully their parents are involved and growing people - - i hope it = rubs off on my kids. there are times when the kids don't dig it . . . = but they like to hang with mom in her studio and they like to come in = and play some of my instruments, maybe they're picking stuff up by = osmosis . . .


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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FB53.663A2D80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 16:34:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08967; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:31:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:31:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B33ABF0.4D0F4097@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:44:05 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB39C@migarexch01.maritz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2q6mrD.A.7LC.Js6M7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Liebig, Steuart A." wrote: > > as far as kids go. i think that they can see that there's a whole > 'nother way of life beyond the 9-5, watch tv thang. hopefully their > parents are involved and growing people - - i hope it rubs off on my > kids. there are times when the kids don't dig it . . . but they like > to hang with mom in her studio and they like to come in and play some > of my instruments, maybe they're picking stuff up by osmosis . . . > > stig about the part where kids don't dig it- one of my absolute WORST memories was back when our daughter was about 2-1/2; we were in the middle of trying to get our business off the ground and couldn't say no to a huge, lucrative but absolutely ridiculous project which had us working many late nights, often round the clock...spent lots of money on babysitters that year (and cashed in big-time on parental favors); anyway, it was christmas eve, and the most critical deadline of the project was a few days away, so we had planned to come home, trim the christmas tree with our daughter, and then switch off with one of our assistant designers and head back to the studio to put in a few more hours' work. well, everything was really festive until we broke the news to our daughter that we were heading back to the office. she took one look at us both, said nothing, and then just sort of crumpled to the floor in a sobbing, unconsolable heap. my only solace is that i'm pretty sure memories prior to about age 3 are really difficult to conjur later in life... :-) lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 18:52:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14044; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:45:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:45:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: <34.16df78a6.286523ff@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:43:11 EDT Subject: Spice and Other Committments To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_34.16df78a6.286523ff_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_34.16df78a6.286523ff_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a lawyer/musician (or a musician/lawyer depending on the day of the week) and my wife is a consultant who works more hours than me - I play or listen to music during virtually all waking hours when not working, eating or simulating procreation - Have 3 kids - 14 year old daughter and two sons ages 11 and 5 - I agree that seeing parents work hard at things they're committed to helps children learn lessons that can't be taught by sitting them down and lecturing - I like to think that my kids benefit from seeing me do something I love and that remains important to me even though I'm "old" (or at least not a chronological kid) - My daughter is playing upright bass and I just bought her an electric in honor of her graduation from middle school - My 11 year plays piano and is studying composers and the "classics" - My 5 year old also takes piano lessons and has a great sense of rhythm - I'm really proud of them and happy that some of my musical obsession seems to rub off - No question, though, that some of the "normal" interactions like sitting and watching tv or having a leisurely dinner are sacrificed in favor of music making - But I think the trade off is worth it - I can really relate to the XMAS story though - I've felt that pang of guilt too often - But, this is the price of obsession ...... Harry --part1_34.16df78a6.286523ff_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a lawyer/musician (or a musician/lawyer depending on the day of the
week) and my wife is a consultant who works more hours than me - I play or
listen to music during virtually all waking hours when not working, eating or
simulating procreation - Have 3 kids - 14 year old daughter and two sons ages
11 and 5 -

I agree that seeing parents work hard at things they're committed to helps
children learn lessons that can't be taught by sitting them down and
lecturing - I like to think that my kids benefit from seeing me do something
I love and that remains important to me even though I'm "old" (or at least
not a chronological kid) -

My daughter is playing upright bass and I just bought her an electric in
honor of her graduation from middle school - My 11 year plays piano and is
studying composers and the "classics" - My 5 year old also takes piano
lessons and has a great sense of rhythm - I'm really proud of them and happy
that some of my musical obsession seems to rub off -

No question, though, that some of the "normal" interactions like sitting and
watching tv or having a leisurely dinner are sacrificed in favor of music
making - But I think the trade off is worth it -

I can really relate to the XMAS story though - I've felt that pang of guilt
too often - But, this is the price of obsession ......

Harry --part1_34.16df78a6.286523ff_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 18:52:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14097; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:47:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:47:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:46:36 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id SAA14072 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If the f-unit stays together there must be something working there! Although that give deeper meaning to the term 'solo artist'... 8-) -MikoNOTMichael >>> Nemoguitt@aol.com 06/22/01 03:41PM >>> after 30 years of wedded bliss.....a daugther 22 a son 19 a grandson almost 3.....it saddens me to say, they dont even check my room to see if im still alive.....its beautiful.....the next time i marry (sure!) it will have to be to a musician, mark my words.....:).....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 18:52:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13669; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:42:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:42:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <68.1076f800.286523b0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:41:52 EDT Subject: Re: off topic--indulge me please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_68.1076f800.286523b0_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_68.1076f800.286523b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit after 30 years of wedded bliss.....a daugther 22 a son 19 a grandson almost 3.....it saddens me to say, they dont even check my room to see if im still alive.....its beautiful.....the next time i marry (sure!) it will have to be to a musician, mark my words.....:).....michael --part1_68.1076f800.286523b0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit after 30 years of wedded bliss.....a daugther 22 a son 19 a grandson almost
3.....it saddens me to say, they dont even check my room to see if im still
alive.....its beautiful.....the next time i marry (sure!) it will have to be
to a musician, mark my words.....:).....michael --part1_68.1076f800.286523b0_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 18:52:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13427; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:34:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:34:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <46.169538ac.286521b3@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:33:23 EDT Subject: canada To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_46.169538ac.286521b3_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_46.169538ac.286521b3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/22/01 9:10:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mjacques@sk.sympatico.ca writes: > 1) Do they have the > units in stock? 2) Will they match the blowout price? 3) Will they ship to > canada? > could we here in the u.s. buy stuff for folks abroad and mail it to them "as a gift" .....is there something *wrong* with this?.....would this make life easier and more tuneful for everyone.....just wondering?.....michael --part1_46.169538ac.286521b3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/22/01 9:10:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mjacques@sk.sympatico.ca writes:


1) Do they have the
units in stock? 2) Will they match the blowout price? 3) Will they ship to
canada?


could we here in the u.s. buy stuff for folks abroad and mail it to them "as
a gift" .....is there something *wrong* with this?.....would this make life
easier and more tuneful for everyone.....just wondering?.....michael --part1_46.169538ac.286521b3_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 19:19:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16127; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:18:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:18:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002d01c0fb71$9bfe89c0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <46.169538ac.286521b3@aol.com> Subject: Re: canada Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:17:29 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0005 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nemoguitt@aol.com put forth: could we here in the u.s. buy stuff for folks abroad and mail it to them "as a gift" .....is there something *wrong* with this?.....would this make life easier and more tuneful for everyone.....just wondering?.....michael Actually if you send it to the UK they still want to get their piece of it, the bloodsuckers. My parents sent me a nice coat for Christmas and I had to pay nearly $70 in duty just to be able to receive it. And it was labelled as a gift, so much for that. I've decided that when I come back - when? oh when??? - I've already got a laundry list of things to put in the empty suitcase I'm bringing with me. It goes without saying that I've got a long overdue trip to Trader Joe's to get coffee. And they wonder why people smuggle! Jeepers. Hey, someone get Steve Lawson to go there while he's in LA. 5lbs of Columbian beans for $8, compared to nearly the equivalent of $27 (£1.78 per 8oz bag at Tesco's here). It's robbery when you consider how close the main coffee route - hell, just Copenhagen! - is to the UK. It's impossible to find dry roasted peanuts here that aren't frigging treated with MSG, for God's sake. I've never seen so many chemical additives in food in my life. And they say the US is bad. :) At least we have the farmer's markets - their produce is low, and God knows they've got a tough time here, so it's good to help 'em out. But man, I miss Trader Joe's so much... Oh, should I mention that hardware is through the roof in comparison? AMD 800's are barely $80 in the US. Sigh. Folks, all you have to do is get outta the US for a while to realize how good y'all have it there. But I digress, as I've got some scotch whiskey in me (for lack of the obvious otherwise) and it's late here... Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 19:41:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16761; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:40:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:40:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <4d.d558c3b.28653121@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:39:13 EDT Subject: electrix stuff and indulge me To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4d.d558c3b.28653121_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_4d.d558c3b.28653121_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mo-fx, filter factory, warp factory all arrived today from "mf".....just to update thems that ordered way back when.....now what the heck am i going to do with these 3 boxes, seriously could we setup a side thing to discuss these tools as well as the forthcoming (?) repeater, i know i may have many questions.....i would really like to thank whoever gave the heads up about this deal (i forget who started this thread, sorry).....so i spend a big 299 for this bonannza and my #1 son ian goes and plops down many times that for an akai mpc2000, ya gots ta luv dat!.....its a gear orgy at the klobuchars.....so many lights so many buttons.....ahhhhhh.....michael --part1_4d.d558c3b.28653121_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mo-fx, filter factory, warp factory all arrived today from "mf".....just to
update thems that ordered way back when.....now what the heck am i going to
do with these 3 boxes, seriously could we setup a side thing to discuss these
tools as well as the forthcoming (?) repeater, i know i may have many
questions.....i would really like to thank whoever gave the heads up about
this deal (i forget who started this thread, sorry).....so i spend a big 299
for this bonannza and my #1 son ian goes and plops down many times that for
an akai mpc2000, ya gots ta luv dat!.....its a gear orgy at the
klobuchars.....so many lights so many buttons.....ahhhhhh.....michael --part1_4d.d558c3b.28653121_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 21:01:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA19853; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:59:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:59:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: electrix stuff and indulge me Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:57:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2001 00:57:49.0492 (UTC) FILETIME=[860EF740:01C0FB7F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sounds good to me, I just got mine(Filter Factory) today as well. Unfortunatley/Fortunatley I cant do a thing with mine cause I'm in the process of selling my house, and i have one of those B-4 noon showings on Sat. They better show up this time cause I'm wasting precious learning time by cleaning this damn house!! Pete. >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: electrix stuff and indulge me >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:39:13 EDT > >mo-fx, filter factory, warp factory all arrived today from "mf".....just to >update thems that ordered way back when.....now what the heck am i going to >do with these 3 boxes, seriously could we setup a side thing to discuss >these >tools as well as the forthcoming (?) repeater, i know i may have many >questions.....i would really like to thank whoever gave the heads up about >this deal (i forget who started this thread, sorry).....so i spend a big >299 >for this bonannza and my #1 son ian goes and plops down many times that for >an akai mpc2000, ya gots ta luv dat!.....its a gear orgy at the >klobuchars.....so many lights so many buttons.....ahhhhhh.....michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 22:18:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22054; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:16:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:16:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007b01c0fb8b$1403e780$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: <4d.d558c3b.28653121@aol.com> Subject: Re: electrix stuff and indulge me Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:20:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01C0FB50.6747FB60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C0FB50.6747FB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was actually planning on looking into creating a forum or newsgroup = for Electrix stuff- let's do it! We can put it together off list- Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:39 PM Subject: electrix stuff and indulge me mo-fx, filter factory, warp factory all arrived today from = "mf".....just to=20 update thems that ordered way back when.....now what the heck am i = going to=20 do with these 3 boxes, seriously could we setup a side thing to = discuss these=20 tools as well as the forthcoming (?) repeater, i know i may have many=20 questions.....i would really like to thank whoever gave the heads up = about=20 this deal (i forget who started this thread, sorry).....so i spend a = big 299=20 for this bonannza and my #1 son ian goes and plops down many times = that for=20 an akai mpc2000, ya gots ta luv dat!.....its a gear orgy at the=20 klobuchars.....so many lights so many buttons.....ahhhhhh.....michael=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C0FB50.6747FB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was actually planning on looking into = creating a=20 forum or newsgroup for Electrix stuff- let's do it! We can put it = together off=20 list- Cliff
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nemoguitt@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 = 4:39 PM
Subject: electrix stuff and = indulge=20 me

mo-fx, = filter factory,=20 warp factory all arrived today from "mf".....just to
update thems = that=20 ordered way back when.....now what the heck am i going to
do with = these 3=20 boxes, seriously could we setup a side thing to discuss these =
tools as=20 well as the forthcoming (?) repeater, i know i may have many=20
questions.....i would really like to thank whoever gave the heads = up about=20
this deal (i forget who started this thread, sorry).....so i spend = a big=20 299
for this bonannza and my #1 son ian goes and plops down many = times=20 that for
an akai mpc2000, ya gots ta luv dat!.....its a gear orgy = at the=20
klobuchars.....so many lights so many=20 buttons.....ahhhhhh.....michael = ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C0FB50.6747FB60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 22:32:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22442; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:30:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:30:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000c01c0fb8d$1ce98380$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: Subject: OT: Electrix forum created on Delphi Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:35:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just created a forum on Delphi- it's a start- not the greatest format but easy to find- http://www.delphi.com/electrix/start Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Mundt To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 5:57 PM Subject: Re: electrix stuff and indulge me > Sounds good to me, I just got mine(Filter Factory) today as well. > Unfortunatley/Fortunatley I cant do a thing with mine cause I'm in the > process of selling my house, and i have one of those B-4 noon showings on > Sat. They better show up this time cause I'm wasting precious learning time > by cleaning this damn house!! > Pete. > > > >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: electrix stuff and indulge me > >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:39:13 EDT > > > >mo-fx, filter factory, warp factory all arrived today from "mf".....just to > >update thems that ordered way back when.....now what the heck am i going to > >do with these 3 boxes, seriously could we setup a side thing to discuss > >these > >tools as well as the forthcoming (?) repeater, i know i may have many > >questions.....i would really like to thank whoever gave the heads up about > >this deal (i forget who started this thread, sorry).....so i spend a big > >299 > >for this bonannza and my #1 son ian goes and plops down many times that for > >an akai mpc2000, ya gots ta luv dat!.....its a gear orgy at the > >klobuchars.....so many lights so many buttons.....ahhhhhh.....michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 22 23:09:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24102; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:07:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:07:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Matt Jacques" To: Subject: RE: electrix stuff and indulge me Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:05:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0FB5F.0213F0A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007b01c0fb8b$1403e780$c3761e18@we.mediaone.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0FB5F.0213F0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Count me in... I just got the Mo-Fx and have a Filter Factory on the way. The manuals for these units are laid out nicely, but are certainly not "all-inclusive"... I'm interested in hearing about how others use them, where they fit into their recording/performance setup, and some of the MIDI possibilities. Besides reviews of the units, there's surprisingly few resources on the internet about Electrix gear. I'll support a new forum in whatever incarnation it may take, but my personal vote would be for an email list such as this one. Anyways, I'd love to see an Electrix users group take form! Matt -----Original Message----- From: Om_Audio [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: 2001mm22 8:21 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: electrix stuff and indulge me I was actually planning on looking into creating a forum or newsgroup for Electrix stuff- let's do it! We can put it together off list- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Nemoguitt@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:39 PM Subject: electrix stuff and indulge me mo-fx, filter factory, warp factory all arrived today from "mf".....just to update thems that ordered way back when.....now what the heck am i going to do with these 3 boxes, seriously could we setup a side thing to discuss these tools as well as the forthcoming (?) repeater, i know i may have many questions.....i would really like to thank whoever gave the heads up about this deal (i forget who started this thread, sorry).....so i spend a big 299 for this bonannza and my #1 son ian goes and plops down many times that for an akai mpc2000, ya gots ta luv dat!.....its a gear orgy at the klobuchars.....so many lights so many buttons.....ahhhhhh.....michael ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0FB5F.0213F0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Count me in... I just got the = Mo-Fx and have=20 a Filter Factory on the way.  The manuals for these units are laid = out=20 nicely, but are certainly not "all-inclusive"... I'm interested in = hearing about=20 how others use them, where they fit into their recording/performance = setup, and=20 some of the MIDI possibilities.
 
Besides reviews of the units, = there's=20 surprisingly few resources on the internet about Electrix gear.  = I'll=20 support a new forum in whatever incarnation it may take, but my personal = vote=20 would be for an email list such as this one. 
 
Anyways, I'd love to see an = Electrix users=20 group take form!
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: Om_Audio=20 [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: 2001mm22 8:21 = PM
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: electrix = stuff and=20 indulge me

I was actually planning on looking = into creating=20 a forum or newsgroup for Electrix stuff- let's do it! We can put it = together=20 off list- Cliff
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nemoguitt@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 = 4:39=20 PM
Subject: electrix stuff and = indulge=20 me

mo-fx, = filter=20 factory, warp factory all arrived today from "mf".....just to =
update=20 thems that ordered way back when.....now what the heck am i going to =
do=20 with these 3 boxes, seriously could we setup a side thing to discuss = these=20
tools as well as the forthcoming (?) repeater, i know i may have = many=20
questions.....i would really like to thank whoever gave the = heads up=20 about
this deal (i forget who started this thread, sorry).....so = i spend=20 a big 299
for this bonannza and my #1 son ian goes and plops = down many=20 times that for
an akai mpc2000, ya gots ta luv dat!.....its a = gear orgy=20 at the
klobuchars.....so many lights so many=20 buttons.....ahhhhhh.....michael=20
------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0FB5F.0213F0A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 02:03:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29613; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:01:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:01:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009b01c0fbaa$0345ebe0$d944f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106222320.TAA16177@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: Off Topic-indulge me please Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:01:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This has been the most fascinating chain and I realize that I am a very lucky person: My wife and I just purchased a spankin' new 1.4 ghz P4 computer with a printer and scanner so that while she works on her current solo album , I can be composing my next electronica outing on the 'old' 800mghz P3 in the recording studio next door to the kitchen (where the new one is). We're so into it, we dont' even really have a dining room table any more.........that's cool we take our food in and watch the latest season of bootlegged Sopranos shows ;-) She rocks so mightily and I am proud to say that we are going to re-up our marriage vows (we had one of those unconventional west coast write your own vows kind of wedding) this summer on our 10th anniversary. We don't have children and have agreed that our songs are going to be our kids this time around (although I felt a little sadness reading about everybody's kids on the list). You know, this particular chain has given me more insight into the lives of some of the constant contributors than most of the electrix posts. I'm greatful to know this wonderful community even more than before. We should give ourselves a big pat on the back for being so cool. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 02:25:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30148; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:24:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:24:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:24:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: A few more weeks ?!? In-Reply-To: <44.f35c8c3.2863fda1@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 XJ32@aol.com wrote: > Called electrix today, asked when and if the repeater was shipping soon, I > was told, "a few more weeks" as they are still finalizing the last software > tests. > > On the plus side I found a MoFX at Mars music for $99. They actually had it > transferred from another store for me. Yeah!!!!! Great. I got part of what I was looking for, but am doubtful the rest will arrive. I'm looking for a Mo-FX unit at least, and really trying to find three FilterFactories and a WarpFactory as well. Anyone got leads on any places with them left at the blowout price, please? thanks, Steve -- onNow: Spatula, _ven the thorny acacia_ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 02:57:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30802; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:56:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:56:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:51:38 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Planning to attend the LA Loop Gig? PLEASE REPLY TO THIS In-reply-to: <3B30EFF5.C00DA29A@altruistmusic.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <20010619.222905.-73019.5.tony-moore@juno.com> <3B30EFF5.C00DA29A@altruistmusic.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >In order to try to gauge how many folks will be there, please reply to >this message if you're planning on attending the gig. I'll be there. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 03:15:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA32437; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 03:13:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 03:13:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 03:12:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett Cc: Subject: NC loopers, was Re: Re:Chicago loopers In-Reply-To: <010301c0f9b7$d1796860$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <43pQ3B.A.o6H.hFEN7@hemlock.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, diatom drone wrote: > Sadly I think it's safe to say a North Carolina loopfest could fit in a > breadbox. I hope I'm wrong! Anyone? I'm in Fayetteville/Greensboro > > Jon That's a bit of a drive, isn't it? I'm halfway between those two in Raleigh. There's also Brian, the Electric Bird Noise musician (on the artists page on the Loopers-Delight website - he's officially in South Carolina, but I've seen him play more than once in the Raleigh area. Nice guy, too. regards, Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:25 PM > Subject: Re:Chicago loopers > > > > Yeah, I think there are a few of us. Can you say Chicago loopfest? > > > > -- onNow: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 03:24:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA00946; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 03:23:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 03:23:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.100.214.93] From: "Ogsite" To: Subject: Toronto Loopers Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 03:23:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0FB93.CF46ECB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2001 07:22:45.0832 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C8CC480:01C0FBB5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0FB93.CF46ECB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm wondering if there are any Torontonians around here. I've been = reading many posts.. people meeting up and working together... sounds = amazing.. I think it's time to find some people round here that I can = mesh with. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0FB93.CF46ECB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm wondering if there are any = Torontonians around=20 here.  I've been reading many posts.. people meeting up and working = together... sounds amazing.. I think it's time to find some people round = here=20 that I can mesh with. 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0FB93.CF46ECB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 09:08:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19476; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:03:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:03:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: GRStrings@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:01:46 EDT Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fb.15bd72a2.2865ed3a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_fb.15bd72a2.2865ed3a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit UNSUBSCRIBE --part1_fb.15bd72a2.2865ed3a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit UNSUBSCRIBE --part1_fb.15bd72a2.2865ed3a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 09:51:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20099; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:47:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:47:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Matt Jacques" To: Subject: RE: electrix stuff and indulge me Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:45:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Re-sending a message of mine from last night... it never showed up in my Inbox, thinking there might be something messed up with my email. my apologies if it's a double-post for some... -----Original Message----- Count me in... I just got the Mo-Fx and have a Filter Factory on the way. The manuals for these units are laid out nicely, but are certainly not "all-inclusive"... I'm interested in hearing about how others use them, where they fit into their recording/performance setup, and some of the MIDI possibilities. Besides reviews of the units, there's surprisingly few resources on the internet about Electrix gear. I'll support a new forum in whatever incarnation it may take, but my personal vote would be for an email list such as this one. Anyways, I'd love to see an Electrix users group take form! Matt -----Original Message----- From: Om_Audio [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: 2001mm22 8:21 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: electrix stuff and indulge me I was actually planning on looking into creating a forum or newsgroup for Electrix stuff- let's do it! We can put it together off list- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 11:59:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23741; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:54:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:54:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:54:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: transmissions festival in Chicago in august Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <_4VCOB.A.vyF.cuLN7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Any loopers here going to or participating in the 4th transmissions festival this year? transmissions oo4 aug 6-12 chicago, illinois, usa festival website: http://transmit.org long description of the various events I received: http://www.webslingerZ.com/sburnett/music/transmit4.txt Feel free to pass this message along to people who might be interested. best, Steve -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 19:37:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05395; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:35:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:35:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Jhsidlo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:34:29 EDT Subject: Free Music To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Honey Barbara's, "I-10 & W.Ave." CD is to be released in November. Pop songs with looping, etc., to register, you go to: www.emigre.com and do the online survey, you'll receive a free subscription. Later, James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 21:28:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10099; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:25:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:25:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B354261.C7EB0888@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:41:53 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: signing off References: <200105271503.LAA26547@hemlock.violacea.com> <00b201c1174b$e844e5e0$5441f93f@looppool> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com geesh, its been so quiet on the list today i wonder if i didn't unsubscribe last night in my sleep :-| anyway, i'm out of town & signing off for a coupla weeks, talk to y'all after that... lance g. ps best wishes to the la looping contingent! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 22:32:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12223; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:31:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:31:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <118.b571d2.2866aae1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:30:57 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater?EDP? Boss? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <7dTPPC.A.z-C.oDVN7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com stevesandberg@earthlink.net writes: >The thing I'm worried about with the Repeater is that >it seems to require a set beat measurement, like 4 to the bar or whatever. not true. > Reading the manual, it seemed that it also requires an even number of >multiplications of the original loop. Does anybody know if this is true? not sure, really, but: i *think* the mult # is configurable. anyway, there's the 'trim'-function..... >It's a concern of mine, too, and basically made me go for the EDP. edp's are cool. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 22:36:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12469; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:35:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:35:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <60.101e0a29.2866abb3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:34:27 EDT Subject: Re: david torn website To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <-Acl-D.A.kCD.VHVN7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com qslicer@pionet.net writes: >does anyone know David Torn's website address? thusly: SPLaTTeRCeLL: http://www.gaalore.com/davidtorn.nsf/Pages/soah Solid States: http://www.gaalore.com/davidtorn.nsf List site: http://www.egroups.com/group/davidtorn best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 22:37:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12593; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:36:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:36:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:35:59 EDT Subject: Re: david torn website To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Luigimeloni74@libero.it writes: >David's website address is >www.gaalore.com/davidtorn/ this is not correct; again: SPLaTTeRCeLL: http://www.gaalore.com/davidtorn.nsf/Pages/soah Solid States: http://www.gaalore.com/davidtorn.nsf List site: http://www.egroups.com/group/davidtorn best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 23 22:55:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA13298; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:54:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:54:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: david torn website Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:54:19 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com David and all: Luigi's link gets you there-- BTW, I just discovered the link to the articles on LD: very cool Also, in exploring st's website, I discovered that he is involved in the development of the Repeater, something I did not know, but should have gathered, given his recent posts. Guess he's got his already *^) Gary -----Original Message----- From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 7:36 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: david torn website Luigimeloni74@libero.it writes: >David's website address is >www.gaalore.com/davidtorn/ this is not correct; again: SPLaTTeRCeLL: http://www.gaalore.com/davidtorn.nsf/Pages/soah Solid States: http://www.gaalore.com/davidtorn.nsf List site: http://www.egroups.com/group/davidtorn best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 24 03:13:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA23457; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 03:11:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 03:11:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <33.16df3dd4.2866ec5b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 03:10:19 EDT Subject: EDP stereo questions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com some EDP questions 1) I want to be able to switch from one loop to another at any time, but always start the new loop from the beginning, can I do this without a MIDI controller? 2) Wasn't there talk on the list about an EDP bug during stereo operation, where the loops change over at different times? 3)So I've got a stereo loop going, and I put the 2 loops out of sync (by going into reverse for a bit on one machine), how can I get the loops re-synced? 4)Whats the easiest way to toggle whether one unit midi-controls the other. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 24 13:18:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07004; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:16:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:16:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Lee Barnes" To: Subject: RE: Yo Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:16:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <000b01c0f9d6$32e415a0$056978c7@0017470167> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Andy, Have to agree, I enjoy using my Steinberger Spirit, too, however, I much prefer the completely graphite bodied Steinberger instruments (this includes basses). A fellow that I used to play with described the Steinberger sound as being "clinical." In my view, I've always enjoyed the clean sound of a Steinberger to that of other instruments out there. This is just an opinion, neither right nor wrong. The other thing I've found with the graphite has been slightly better tracking with either GK-1, GK-2, and GK-2a'ed driven guitar synths out there, mostly from the lower strings (just need to be sure that you haven't dropped your action too low and then they really shine quite nicely). Have to agree with a few other posts both prior and present, the feel of the neck is much more to my liking. Won't go into the theory bit about how a headstock messes with the tuning, sound and sustain, but it is a factor, too. Supposedly, MusicYo will be selling graphite necked models of the Spirit line (I'm wondering if this is going to be a Spirit body coupled with a MosesGraphite neck)? The other thing, I'm hoping that'll get released is the 12-string nut and bridge/tuning hardware, but that's a dream for another time, eh? Slightly off this topic, hoping that Emmett will be releasing a 12-string version of his Stealth Stick (this is another Carbon Graphite instrument). Many thanks to whoever hipped me to the Music Yo site from this list a few years back! Tap on, loop extended, gliss out, LeeohkinoWired. -----Original Message----- From: Q [mailto:qslicer@pionet.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 06:13 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Yo I'm just wondering if anyone here uses Steinbergers...or, if anyone uses those Fernandes Sustainer guitars. I thought it'd be something worth looking into..so, if anyone has either of these, tell me what kind and if you like them. I love my Steinberger Spirit! -Andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 24 14:18:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09044; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:17:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:17:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RobbCappelletto@aol.com Message-ID: <53.7b928c9.28678869@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:16:09 EDT Subject: Re: Yo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I bought my steinberger spirit more than a year ago to just use as a travel guitar. yet i found myself using it more than my custom made axes, and it became my main guitar within a month. all i changed was swapping the selects for EMG 85-SAV-89's. The spirits are great guitars, and anyone who says otherwise hasnt played one. -robb From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 24 17:43:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15017; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:40:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:40:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:42:53 +0100 Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please From: roberto To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <009b01c0fbaa$0345ebe0$d944f93f@dnlsh01> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4OHDcB.A.WqD.u4lN7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear all I have been following with interest the "Off Topic-indulge me please" thread. I find it somehow very reassuring to know that behind the knobs and technical competence there are human beings. Even more so when it appears that these human beings share so much beyond a common interest in music and open minded experimentation. Despite my dislike for statistics and averages a sort of identikit seem to emerge from these postings, which may be of some "social-anthropological" interest - correct me if I'm wrong. Most of us seem to be male, over 40 (I'm 44); not many seem to make a living out of music (I don't); Many seem to be engaged in either lecturing or designing/producing media (I'm a lecturer in multimedia/communication and a freelance designer for web-cdrom-video-imaging); many seem to have young children (my boy is 7) and share concerns like how to let them grow with an open mind and varied interests while protecting them from the tv-induced brainwashing and exaggerated consumerism. Some seem to have been lucky or skilful enough to achieve lasting and fulfilling relationships (like the one who is getting "married for real" after 10 years of partnership, congratulations!), others less so (like the one who keeps the wife happy by doing some gardening) (I am divorced). One thing strikes me: where are the young ones? One or two generations seem to have been skipped - will our children pick up from where we left and develop something new? My child sings, messes about with any musical instrument he finds, paints, draws and invents stories. More than anything else, he has opinions and understands quite well the world around him. A great companion! Another curious element is how, from many different starting points, we converged to this point, this music, this list... It's like the invisible paths that lead different music styles and traditions to meet and merge creating something new and ancestral at the same time. Well, forgive the digression - this is a unique list indeed! with friendship to all Roberto ______________________________________________ Roberto Battista http://www.robat.scl.net http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 Mobile 0775 960 4344 ______________________________________________ http://www.rustyrobot.com independent on-line music distribution, the music you can't find elsewhere, hybrid, eclectic, world, looped, unusual... ______________________________________________ http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm an exciting project on technology applied to mobile education for developing countries and remote locations... ______________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 24 18:27:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16889; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:25:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:25:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000801c0fcfc$dee23a20$cd8a2141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:27:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, Probably the most striking aspect of this list is that I am one of two females. I had been trying to do as much as I could with my music, but in a mere 5 years, where I'm turning 31, I've had two daughters, married, divorced, engaged a second time, had 5 different addresses, and still managed to play shows (being 8 months pregnant sleeping on a hardwood floor driving 8 hours alone in a 77 volvo I had bought the week before at a yard sale!)..it's been hard for me to finally settle into the aspect of "family" when I find myself consumed by the need to sing. There are times that I want to take off, and not come back..live in my car and play shows. But I know that I have a beautiful young family that needs me, and I know I need them. This probably sounds quite ridiculous, especially to the established, professional musician, but I suppose there are many music-makers..wary of the "record-deal", who still need to make the music, if only to satisfy their soul, and perhaps the souls of other listeners. Anyhow, I promise not to post many more things of this nature. I'd rather talk about why is it that my Echo plus pedal is blowing up in a burst of cacaphony when it receives a signal. And one more thing..where ARE the women on this board?? Kim? Goddess? (Is Kim male?) Jehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "roberto" To: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please > Dear all > > I have been following with interest the "Off Topic-indulge me please" > thread. I find it somehow very reassuring to know that behind the knobs and > technical competence there are human beings. Even more so when it appears > that these human beings share so much beyond a common interest in music and > open minded experimentation. > Despite my dislike for statistics and averages a sort of identikit seem to > emerge from these postings, which may be of some "social-anthropological" > interest - correct me if I'm wrong. > Most of us seem to be male, over 40 (I'm 44); not many seem to make a living > out of music (I don't); Many seem to be engaged in either lecturing or > designing/producing media (I'm a lecturer in multimedia/communication and a > freelance designer for web-cdrom-video-imaging); many seem to have young > children (my boy is 7) and share concerns like how to let them grow with an > open mind and varied interests while protecting them from the tv-induced > brainwashing and exaggerated consumerism. Some seem to have been lucky or > skilful enough to achieve lasting and fulfilling relationships (like the one > who is getting "married for real" after 10 years of partnership, > congratulations!), others less so (like the one who keeps the wife happy by > doing some gardening) (I am divorced). > > One thing strikes me: where are the young ones? One or two generations seem > to have been skipped - will our children pick up from where we left and > develop something new? > My child sings, messes about with any musical instrument he finds, paints, > draws and invents stories. More than anything else, he has opinions and > understands quite well the world around him. A great companion! > > Another curious element is how, from many different starting points, we > converged to this point, this music, this list... > It's like the invisible paths that lead different music styles and > traditions to meet and merge creating something new and ancestral at the > same time. > Well, forgive the digression - this is a unique list indeed! > > with friendship to all > > Roberto > > ______________________________________________ > Roberto Battista > http://www.robat.scl.net > http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm > Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 > Mobile 0775 960 4344 > ______________________________________________ > http://www.rustyrobot.com > independent on-line music distribution, > the music you can't find elsewhere, > hybrid, eclectic, world, looped, unusual... > ______________________________________________ > http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm > an exciting project on technology applied to > mobile education for developing countries and > remote locations... > ______________________________________________ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 24 18:47:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17218; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:38:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:38:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010624183629.007ce7e0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:36:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please In-Reply-To: <000801c0fcfc$dee23a20$cd8a2141@cfl.rr.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 06:27 PM 6/24/01 -0400, Jehn wrote: (Is Kim male?) Ask his girlfriend. :-) -t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 24 20:32:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21987; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:30:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:30:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: Off Topic-indulge me please Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:29:00 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <4oKJbD.A.lTF.uXoN7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com roberto wrote > One thing strikes me: where are the young ones? omjn replies Hello Roberto, We are here (if indeed, 25 is considered young. certainly younger..). Given that we don't don't make any money out of music either, most of us probably haven't got the head start to afford the multiple EDP's and Rang's and DL4's and the rest of the copious gear you FREAK's seem to have!! Just kidding, i am very envious, and so keep my postings limited. Much better to listen and learn from my persepective at least. And yes I hope to continue the fine traditions defined by many of the older geneartion of tinkerers - from cage to reich to hassel to laurie anderson to louie andresson (sp?) to very early kraftwerk (rolf and florian yes, autobahn - I don't think so) to la monte young to... so much to learn, so many experiments michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 24 20:32:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21747; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:30:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:30:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001301c0fd0d$b51f3f60$9b20149a@hal> Reply-To: "Christian Leduc" From: "Christian Leduc" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010624183629.007ce7e0@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:28:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > At 06:27 PM 6/24/01 -0400, Jehn wrote: > (Is Kim male?) > > Ask his girlfriend. :-) Kim is a Lesbian? ;-) Roberto, Am I considered in the "skipped generation"? (I'm 21).. Well, for me, I try to do something new, but it's quite hard in a time and place (Quebec) where musicians are considered like useless people... So, I want to make a living out of it, but I will probably have to find another thing to do with my life and put music in a second position... or trying to find something that touches everything (like production or something like that)... well, I assume that's why I study in public communications... Well, I assume I'm more off-topic than anyone else, but who cares.. :) But Roberto, don't worry: we will try to continue what you did or do right now!! :-) Best, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 24 23:25:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA27842; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:23:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:23:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010624212740.007c6af0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:27:40 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please In-Reply-To: <000801c0fcfc$dee23a20$cd8a2141@cfl.rr.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jehn, no, don't worry about this thread! As a couple of others have said, I also am enjoying this one immencely! -and yes, Kim is a male. Also, I think there's another woman here as well, Nicki, I believe that's how she spells it... anyway, There was another woman on list a while ago when I was here last, and her husband was also on-list. -Very, very nice people. anyway, -just blabbing, and thanks very much for starting this thread! Smiles, Goddess At 06:27 PM 6/24/01 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, >Probably the most striking aspect of this list is that I am one of two >females. I had been trying to do as much as I could with my music, but in a >mere 5 years, where I'm turning 31, I've had two daughters, married, >divorced, engaged a second time, had 5 different addresses, and still >managed to play shows (being 8 months pregnant sleeping on a hardwood floor >driving 8 hours alone in a 77 volvo I had bought the week before at a yard >sale!)..it's been hard for me to finally settle into the aspect of "family" >when I find myself consumed by the need to sing. There are times that I want >to take off, and not come back..live in my car and play shows. But I know >that I have a beautiful young family that needs me, and I know I need them. >This probably sounds quite ridiculous, especially to the established, >professional musician, but I suppose there are many music-makers..wary of >the "record-deal", who still need to make the music, if only to satisfy >their soul, and perhaps the souls of other listeners. >Anyhow, I promise not to post many more things of this nature. I'd rather >talk about why is it that my Echo plus pedal is blowing up in a burst of >cacaphony when it receives a signal. And one more thing..where ARE the women >on this board?? Kim? Goddess? (Is Kim male?) >Jehn >----- Original Message ----- >From: "roberto" >To: >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:42 PM >Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please > > >> Dear all >> >> I have been following with interest the "Off Topic-indulge me please" >> thread. I find it somehow very reassuring to know that behind the knobs >and >> technical competence there are human beings. Even more so when it appears >> that these human beings share so much beyond a common interest in music >and >> open minded experimentation. >> Despite my dislike for statistics and averages a sort of identikit seem to >> emerge from these postings, which may be of some "social-anthropological" >> interest - correct me if I'm wrong. >> Most of us seem to be male, over 40 (I'm 44); not many seem to make a >living >> out of music (I don't); Many seem to be engaged in either lecturing or >> designing/producing media (I'm a lecturer in multimedia/communication and >a >> freelance designer for web-cdrom-video-imaging); many seem to have young >> children (my boy is 7) and share concerns like how to let them grow with >an >> open mind and varied interests while protecting them from the tv-induced >> brainwashing and exaggerated consumerism. Some seem to have been lucky or >> skilful enough to achieve lasting and fulfilling relationships (like the >one >> who is getting "married for real" after 10 years of partnership, >> congratulations!), others less so (like the one who keeps the wife happy >by >> doing some gardening) (I am divorced). >> >> One thing strikes me: where are the young ones? One or two generations >seem >> to have been skipped - will our children pick up from where we left and >> develop something new? >> My child sings, messes about with any musical instrument he finds, paints, >> draws and invents stories. More than anything else, he has opinions and >> understands quite well the world around him. A great companion! >> >> Another curious element is how, from many different starting points, we >> converged to this point, this music, this list... >> It's like the invisible paths that lead different music styles and >> traditions to meet and merge creating something new and ancestral at the >> same time. >> Well, forgive the digression - this is a unique list indeed! >> >> with friendship to all >> >> Roberto >> >> ______________________________________________ >> Roberto Battista >> http://www.robat.scl.net >> http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm >> Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 >> Mobile 0775 960 4344 >> ______________________________________________ >> http://www.rustyrobot.com >> independent on-line music distribution, >> the music you can't find elsewhere, >> hybrid, eclectic, world, looped, unusual... >> ______________________________________________ >> http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm >> an exciting project on technology applied to >> mobile education for developing countries and >> remote locations... >> ______________________________________________ >> >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 02:00:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA32447; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:58:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:58:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a901c0fd3b$8a7b2d40$190c28d5@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please plus gig announcement. Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:24:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wow scary - that's me, (more or less). I used to write music professionally for TV, the theatre, dance etc. but now I write it for it's own, (my?) sake. > Most of us seem to be male, over 40 (I'm 44); not many seem to make a living > out of music (I don't); Many seem to be engaged in either lecturing or > designing/producing media (I'm a lecturer in multimedia/communication and a > freelance designer for web-cdrom-video-imaging); many seem to have young > children (my boy is 7) I'll be playing with Kyma and my NEW, VERY NICE sustainiac system on Wednesday at Chapter Arts Centre, Wales. I'm taking the DAT and a stereo mic this time!! Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 02:50:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01738; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 02:47:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 02:47:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:39:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please Message-ID: <20010624.233913.-179451.0.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,13-14,16-19,21-183 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yep, interesting thread! i'm 30-something, married for 10 years now, have dos chicas pequeñas muy hermosas (2 and 4) and now have a 'normal' job, tho' the jury is out on how long i'll last :-) i guess up until the job, i was a semi-professional musician. meaning i got paid pretty well to gig and record, more than usually as a bassist supporting a singer-songwriter of some sort. i got into this looping thing after playing in band called monk (hence the ric hordinski connection) back east. so now i loop at home and also a bit with the trio i play with here in la. i've recorded a bunch of looping bits and pieces in my little home studio and am working with using acid to make something of the mess. since i've yet to do a solo looping gig, i'm anxious for the first la loop feste next week to see steve, ric, and andre tear it up :-) anyway, i really have enjoyed and learned alot from this list. thanks to kim et al! tony On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:27:40 -0600 Goddess writes: > Jehn, no, don't worry about this thread! As a couple of others > have > said, I also am enjoying this one immencely! -and yes, Kim is a > male. > Also, I think there's another woman here as well, Nicki, I believe > that's > how she spells it... anyway, There was another woman on list a > while ago > when I was here last, and her husband was also on-list. -Very, very > nice > people. anyway, -just blabbing, and thanks very much for starting > this > thread! > > Smiles, > > Goddess > > At 06:27 PM 6/24/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello, > >Probably the most striking aspect of this list is that I am one of > two > >females. I had been trying to do as much as I could with my music, > but in a > >mere 5 years, where I'm turning 31, I've had two daughters, > married, > >divorced, engaged a second time, had 5 different addresses, and > still > >managed to play shows (being 8 months pregnant sleeping on a > hardwood floor > >driving 8 hours alone in a 77 volvo I had bought the week before at > a yard > >sale!)..it's been hard for me to finally settle into the aspect of > "family" > >when I find myself consumed by the need to sing. There are times > that I want > >to take off, and not come back..live in my car and play shows. But > I know > >that I have a beautiful young family that needs me, and I know I > need them. > >This probably sounds quite ridiculous, especially to the > established, > >professional musician, but I suppose there are many > music-makers..wary of > >the "record-deal", who still need to make the music, if only to > satisfy > >their soul, and perhaps the souls of other listeners. > >Anyhow, I promise not to post many more things of this nature. I'd > rather > >talk about why is it that my Echo plus pedal is blowing up in a > burst of > >cacaphony when it receives a signal. And one more thing..where ARE > the women > >on this board?? Kim? Goddess? (Is Kim male?) > >Jehn > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "roberto" > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:42 PM > >Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please > > > > > >> Dear all > >> > >> I have been following with interest the "Off Topic-indulge me > please" > >> thread. I find it somehow very reassuring to know that behind the > knobs > >and > >> technical competence there are human beings. Even more so when it > appears > >> that these human beings share so much beyond a common interest in > music > >and > >> open minded experimentation. > >> Despite my dislike for statistics and averages a sort of > identikit seem to > >> emerge from these postings, which may be of some > "social-anthropological" > >> interest - correct me if I'm wrong. > >> Most of us seem to be male, over 40 (I'm 44); not many seem to > make a > >living > >> out of music (I don't); Many seem to be engaged in either > lecturing or > >> designing/producing media (I'm a lecturer in > multimedia/communication and > >a > >> freelance designer for web-cdrom-video-imaging); many seem to > have young > >> children (my boy is 7) and share concerns like how to let them > grow with > >an > >> open mind and varied interests while protecting them from the > tv-induced > >> brainwashing and exaggerated consumerism. Some seem to have been > lucky or > >> skilful enough to achieve lasting and fulfilling relationships > (like the > >one > >> who is getting "married for real" after 10 years of partnership, > >> congratulations!), others less so (like the one who keeps the > wife happy > >by > >> doing some gardening) (I am divorced). > >> > >> One thing strikes me: where are the young ones? One or two > generations > >seem > >> to have been skipped - will our children pick up from where we > left and > >> develop something new? > >> My child sings, messes about with any musical instrument he > finds, paints, > >> draws and invents stories. More than anything else, he has > opinions and > >> understands quite well the world around him. A great companion! > >> > >> Another curious element is how, from many different starting > points, we > >> converged to this point, this music, this list... > >> It's like the invisible paths that lead different music styles > and > >> traditions to meet and merge creating something new and ancestral > at the > >> same time. > >> Well, forgive the digression - this is a unique list indeed! > >> > >> with friendship to all > >> > >> Roberto > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> Roberto Battista > >> http://www.robat.scl.net > >> http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm > >> Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 > >> Mobile 0775 960 4344 > >> ______________________________________________ > >> http://www.rustyrobot.com > >> independent on-line music distribution, > >> the music you can't find elsewhere, > >> hybrid, eclectic, world, looped, unusual... > >> ______________________________________________ > >> http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm > >> an exciting project on technology applied to > >> mobile education for developing countries and > >> remote locations... > >> ______________________________________________ > >> > >> > > > > > > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and > eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 12:14:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14599; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:09:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:09:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-236.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.236] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010625125819.00a247c0@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:58:19 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: OT: 3D Audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi there ! i was wondering which are your experiences about 3D audio software. Which packages do you find useful ? Also, could you advise me about some sites with useful tricks related to recording / mixing ? thanks in advance, Junkie G Doctor_Sax_News http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News "cheers from catalonia, which language, people and culture have been harassed by centralists in spain through the years" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 12:28:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15503; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:25:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:25:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: McCullaghJ@Logica.com X-VirusChecked: Checked Subject: Re: david torn website To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2b (Intl) 16 December 1999 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:24:41 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DublinDomino01/SRV/Aldiscon(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 25/06/2001 17:24:41 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > www.gaalore.com/davidtorn/ > this is not correct; > again: well, actually .. :-) www.gaalore.com/davidtorn is the main link .. best to use this, in case there is a relocation of any of the files .. www.gaalore.com/davidtorn/ (with the extra "/" at the end) works also .. had to add this in when Tony Levin used that mapping on his site. wwww.davidtorn.com is, unfortunately, not in business just yet .. problems with a tangle of ISPs .. arguing over who's turn it is to do the hour's work this week >8-( .. but stay tuned. there is also a major site update in the works .. may be another few weeks tho' atb, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 12:31:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15742; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:29:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:29:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RMOUNEYR@bouyguestelecom.fr Message-Id: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C01@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouyguestelecom.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Off Topic-indulge me please Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:18:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <5A-RSB.A.30D.na2N7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >how to let them grow with an >open mind and varied interests while protecting them from the tv-induced >brainwashing and exaggerated consumerism. oh thanks, if everyone does like this, the world will get better and better. >One thing strikes me: where are the young ones? well, i'm 23, no wife, no children, playing music for fun, hoping one day for a living. And i want to buy an Electrix repeater to make some new-original live gigs here in france, but it isn't in stores yet.... This off-topic was very instructive to me. RAF. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 12:44:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA16203; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:41:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:41:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Steve Lawson" To: Subject: RE: Off Topic-indulge me please Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:48:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010624.233913.-179451.0.tony-moore@juno.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com For the sake of whoever is collecting the statistics , I'm 28, engaged, do make my living from playing/writing/recording and teaching music (which I don't see as separate from the creative process, rather a vital part of it...) I do have some rather wonderful gear (DL4, JamMan, MPX-G2), but can't afford one or two of everything, have a fairly understanding partner who is also a rather good singer-songwriter, but who does get pissed off with the hours and hours of answering music related e-mail every day (hey, being the 'gadget guru' for Bassist then Guitarist magazine does tend to generate a heck of a lot of e-mail, even though the column ended 6 months ago!! :o) I also feel hugely fortunate to be able to play music 'for myself' but have enough people respond to it that I can make a living from it. I honestly have no idea what would happen if I came to the position where I was asked to change what I was doing for the sake of making more money. It hasnt' happened yet, I put together my own label in order to release my CD so that I had complete control of the whole process from recording to mixing to packaging, artwork and promotion. I don't actually think there's much of an ideological split between the pros and not pros on this list, as most of the pros seem to manage to be fairly uncompromised in what they are doing (is Splattercell a scheming commercial project???? I seriously doubt it!!! :o) We just happen to be fortunate enough to either make enough money to live, or be able to live on less money than we might otherwise have got used to if we'd ever had big money jobs! And I'll add that I've met a fair few people from this list, and they are all very cool indeed - Had a very enjoyable evening recently with Luca and Roberto, eating fine food and talking insessently about music and looping for hours - Luca's poor wife must have been bored out of her mind, but was incredibly gracious to us... :o) I'm really looking forward to meeting a load more of you through the various upcoming loop fests, starting on Thursday in Burbank..!!! BTW, the Manring/Walker/Lawson trio now had a gig in San Jose at the museum of art , a week on Sunday - e-mail Rick Walker ( GLOBAL@cruzio.com ) for more info - Rick, along with our Sacremento promotor Daniel Elliott, has done an unbelieveable job on putting this tour together. The guy has boundless energy, amazing focus, enthusiasm and creativity, and has given way above and beyond what any reasonable person could expect. three cheers for Rick... :o) cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 13:36:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19015; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:32:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:32:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00bb01c0fd9c$6754f380$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <200106220459.AAA05672@hemlock.violacea.com> <015701c0fafa$c5148c00$d943f93f@dnlsh01> Subject: Re: quick responses to a couple of questions form the DRUMMERS chain Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:29:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <3bi6hC.A.zoE.LW3N7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" > You are right, that radio shack $25 mic rocks!!! so do their $3 piezo > elements that end up being the exact same pickup found in > the $125 oud pickup that I purchased recently. If you are into contact > mics, go buy a gang of them because radio shack just dicontinued them, > apparently Hey, Rick, do you have a model number or the like for these piezos? I wandered into the nearest RS here and couldn't find 'em. In what section of the store should I look? Thanks for the lead! Contact mics are fun! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 13:52:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19838; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:50:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:50:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:49:15 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: quick responses to a couple of questions form the DRUMMERS chain In-reply-to: <00bb01c0fd9c$6754f380$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <200106220459.AAA05672@hemlock.violacea.com> <015701c0fafa$c5148c00$d943f93f@dnlsh01> <00bb01c0fd9c$6754f380$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 12:29 PM -0500 6/25/01, Dennis Leas wrote: >Hey, Rick, do you have a model number or the like for these piezos? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 15:28:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24573; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:14:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:14:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006901c0fdaa$d8b54580$8683abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: Subject: R: Off Topic-indulge me please Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:33:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Steve wrote: > And I'll add that I've met a fair few people from this list, and they are > all very cool indeed - Had a very enjoyable evening recently with Luca and > Roberto, eating fine food and talking insessently about music and looping > for hours - Luca's poor wife must have been bored out of her mind, but was > incredibly gracious to us... :o) Hi Steve and all. Giovanna (my girlfriend) thanks about your kind considerations about her... she is a saint... I don't know if we choose the people after having considered their compatibility with our needs, but I can tell that having the lucky to share our life with persons that are helping us in our musical/creative need is a wonderful thing. Even nicer is the chance to give them something back while doing the thing we love the most. Giovanna is a sculptist; she helps me uncosciounsly with what she does. But she could also be doing something else. The wonderful fact is having beside people that are doing things with love and passion. So, excuse me for these banal considerations, I just want to tell that meeting has an important potential and we are meeting so little. all the best .... I would like to meet you all luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 16:04:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25800; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:49:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:49:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B37B0B7.710D93FD@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:44:23 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: R: Off Topic-indulge me please References: <006901c0fdaa$d8b54580$8683abd4@LucaFormentini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com luca wrote: > > Steve wrote: > > And I'll add that I've met a fair few people from this list, and they are > > all very cool indeed - Had a very enjoyable evening recently with Luca and > > Roberto, eating fine food and talking insessently about music and looping > > for hours - Luca's poor wife must have been bored out of her mind, but was > > incredibly gracious to us... :o) > > Hi Steve and all. > Giovanna (my girlfriend) thanks about your kind considerations about her... > she is a saint... > I don't know if we choose the people after having considered their > compatibility with our needs, but I can tell that having the lucky to share > our life with persons that are helping us in our musical/creative need is a > wonderful thing. > Even nicer is the chance to give them something back while doing the thing > we love the most. > Giovanna is a sculptist; she helps me uncosciounsly with what she does. > But she could also be doing something else. > The wonderful fact is having beside people that are doing things with love > and passion. > > So, excuse me for these banal considerations, I just want to tell that > meeting has an important potential and we are meeting so little. > > all the best .... I would like to meet you all > luca Luca can you repeat the annoucement and infos about your festival on the garda lake we may meet ciao Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 16:59:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28406; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:55:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:55:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B37A567.574A@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:56:10 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: R: Off Topic-indulge me please References: <006901c0fdaa$d8b54580$8683abd4@LucaFormentini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am 39, make 1/2 my income playing bass in the usual fashion(at least as usual as a band w/Classical Harp,African percussion and Shakuhachi can be,a gig tonight at the Exploratorium actually) and the other part teaching and doing massage therapy.Once in a while someone buys BASSCAPES off my website and tells me how well they like my playing.Since buying a house in November it seems I've had no time to perform solo save the 1st Santa Cruz Bass Looping Festival. My girlfriend/partner of 10 years is looking over my shoulder as I type this and says I love my bass more then her and I'm a shopoholic when looking for gear-I recently redesigned my whole solo rig-I bring up her shoe collection and we're both laughing...I deny the first claim and she points out that after 25 years my basses should do something for me nothing else does... I like to wake early in the morning and play 2-3 hours before she wakes.Then my creative impulses don't interfere with me being present with her and the rest of my life.I think the quality of presence we have for the people in our life(and the totality of our life) is the most important factor.Ideally,everything flows from this.I manage this kind of poise about a fifth of the time and it makes everything else workable. Scott Kungha Drengsen http://www.basscapes.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 17:27:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30538; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:24:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:24:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008e01c0fdbd$21e6e440$8683abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: Subject: 6 chitarre sole festival Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:23:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com this festival, held on Garda Lake from July the 6th to the 8th will be composed by the solo performaces of: Friday the 6th: Luciano Margorani & Duck Baker Saturday the 7th: Paolo Angeli & Mike Cooper Sunday the 8th: Sandro Gibellini & Hans Reichel The place is an ancient closter in Desenzano del Garda, on the southern coast of Garda Lake. the loop content will be very light, but I think the creative wideness will be pretty deep. This was my intention. As we have had the chance to discuss before, polluting our public's ears with sounds coming from different languages is an important need here. for those who want to come and visit, here is my mobile number: +39 335 810 2445 - feel free to call me if you have questions. .... I will be happy and honoured to finally give a face to those who are a name i read. wait for you there ! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 17:30:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30801; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:27:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:27:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:28:44 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: R: Off Topic-indulge me please In-reply-to: <3B37A567.574A@earthlink.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <006901c0fdaa$d8b54580$8683abd4@LucaFormentini> <3B37A567.574A@earthlink.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm 55-1/3 years old and have lived in Los Angeles with a violist for the last 15 years. We have five cats. I have no human children of my own, but I do have three nephews, three nieces, and another of the latter on the way. Most of my income comes from consulting for Level Control Systems, a manufacturer of audio hardware and software for live sound control. During prior phases I taught music technology at the college level, developed custom MIDI software, worked for a non-profit foundation researching multichannel audio, and toured with a singer performing electroacoustic vocal music. If you look far enough back, I was a singer/guitarist in various rock bands and also worked briefly as an independent film maker. I've been composing tape music since 1969 (in conjunction with film) and performing electroacoustic music since 1975. My earliest "loopy" performances were in Santa Cruz in 1976, using 4-track tape decks threaded together. I started using live signal processing at the same time and went digital in 1983 with the Lexicon, Eventide, and Deltalabs processors of the time. Looping is just one of the things I do with electronics. My preference has been to sample and process other performers live, though my group of several years disbanded a while back (though we have made several CDs from our live recordings). I've recently picked up the guitar again and hope eventually to play it in front of people. After a frustrating attempt to make it as a rock musician, circa 1965-74 I am relatively content to be making music for its own sake, and for the social interaction with my collaborators. Strangely enough, our latest self-produced CD is getting favorable notice. Even stranger, my rock band's 1968 LP is now a cult classic and has been bootlegged in both vinyl and CD versions. There's also a legit compilation containing one cut from that album. I suppose that after I'm dead I'll actually become famous. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 18:13:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00686; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:10:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:10:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: micromoog for trade To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:13:50 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com (1) mircomoog for trade will trade for oddball pedals such as Z'Vex Black Cat Lovetone Frostwave etc...... also looking for lexicon jamman lexicon vortex line 6 delay that purple line 6 who's name escapes me expression pedals for my line 6 anything unusual that processes sound will also be considered resonable trades will be loved and cherished i have great refs call or email me and lets talk 770-389-8685 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 18:35:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02009; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:33:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:33:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <59.c2684e2.286915e7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:32:07 EDT Subject: Re: Off Topic-indulge me please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_59.c2684e2.286915e7_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_59.c2684e2.286915e7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/25/01 12:41:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steve@steve-lawson.co.uk writes: > Had a very enjoyable evening recently with Luca and > Roberto, eating fine food and talking insessently about music and looping > dear GOD, what more could a person want?.....envy begins to rear its ugly head.....:)m --part1_59.c2684e2.286915e7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/25/01 12:41:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
steve@steve-lawson.co.uk writes:


Had a very enjoyable evening recently with Luca and
Roberto, eating fine food and talking insessently about music and looping
for hours


dear GOD, what more could a person want?.....envy begins to rear its ugly
head.....:)m --part1_59.c2684e2.286915e7_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 19:05:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03308; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:58:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:58:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:55:31 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: R: Off Topic-indulge me please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <009b01c0fdc9$efcd5900$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: <006901c0fdaa$d8b54580$8683abd4@LucaFormentini> <3B37A567.574A@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <3k3MNB.A.Kz.lH8N7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i also find this thread interesting and it seems to be turning into a chance for everyone to [re]introduce themselves. so here's mine: i am and will always be 17. i live with an imaginary girl who doesn't mind in the least my playing various and sundry instruments all the time. (most of my real girlfriends have not been so inclined) anyone have the problem of being so engrossed in their playing/patching/computer-twiddling that they don't even hear people speaking to them? boy, that goes over well... i make most of my living programming computers, with a little 3d animation and sound design on the side. i am kind of surprised at how many musicians i have run into that are also software developers. there are several of us here on ld. (it's founder for one) there was a time when i derived all my (pitiful) income playing guitar in several bands at once. i am fairly glad those days of poverty are over, but it is good to have done it. and many of the musical experiences were incredible. i have a bachelors of music. yes, that's a BM (better than BS?). so i know pretty much everything... i have never performed a looping show. my looping "experiments" are still at the ~50% trash stage, so i am not quite ready to subject an audience to them. even when i knock that down to ~10% trash, i think the audiences will be small. but they will also probably be paying attention... i greatly admire those of you with the cajones to do the pure loop solo thing. someday (i hope soon) i will join you... i fully intend to continue composing/performing/listening/groking forever and ever, amen. -me From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 20:10:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07813; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:07:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:07:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003901c0fdd4$3cc4d300$fb964e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: R: Off Topic-indulge me please Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:09:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jim wrote: >i greatly admire those of you with the cajones to do the pure loop solo thing. So do I. I hate to be pedantic about spelling / Spanish slang, but "cajones" means "large boxes." The term you want is "cojones." Of course, depending on how much looping gear one is carting around, you might have meant "cajones" after all . . . :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 21:16:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10110; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:12:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:12:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: micromoog for trade To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:16:39 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com (1) mircomoog for trade will trade for oddball pedals such as Z'Vex Black Cat Lovetone Frostwave etc...... also looking for lexicon jamman lexicon vortex line 6 delay that purple line 6 who's name escapes me expression pedals for my line 6 anything unusual that processes sound will also be considered resonable trades will be loved and cherished i have great refs call or email me and lets talk 770-389-8685 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 22:31:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12993; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:28:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:28:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Jhsidlo@aol.com Message-ID: <123.cc32f1.28694d13@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:27:31 EDT Subject: Apologies To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: <_S2wvC.A.rID.3M_N7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sorry, I've checked the Emigre web site and the survey is no longer available. James Honey Barbara's, "I-10 & W.Ave." CD is to be released in November. Pop songs with looping, etc., to register, you go to: www.emigre.com and do the online survey, you'll receive a free subscription. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 25 22:31:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12874; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:28:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:28:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B37F351.11395525@onemain.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:28:33 -0500 From: Lisa Stork Reply-To: lstork@onemain.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Jamman diagnostics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello list, I'm new here, but not to looping! I bought a jamman back in 96 or so and have enjoyed it ever since. Recently I've had some trouble with my jm with lights flickering and numbers changing on the led. I don't want to waste space on the post, but if anyone has had similar problems and know some solutions, please email me direct. I've checked the diagnostics with the info available on the website to no avail. Loop on, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 01:00:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA18256; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:56:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:56:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010626045516.2108.qmail@web5105.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:55:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: R: Off Topic-indulge me please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <003901c0fdd4$3cc4d300$fb964e0c@u73x0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- James Pokorny wrote: > Jim wrote: > > >i greatly admire those of you with the cajones to > do the pure loop solo > thing. > > > So do I. I hate to be pedantic about spelling / > Spanish slang, but > "cajones" means "large boxes." The term you want is > "cojones." Of course, > depending on how much looping gear one is carting > around, you might have > meant "cajones" after all . . . :-) > That was a great one!, I do speak Spanish too and that was a really funny observation. Alx. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 01:47:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20617; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:43:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:43:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B38C97A.C9C78C51@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:42:18 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com not true about Roland synths only tracking well with their own sounds. I think people find this is a problem when the bend range on the Roland sound is different than the midi sound. When that synchs up, my GR-30 tracks great with my Alesis S4+. Mark Peter Underwood wrote: > If you go this route, may I also suggest the Yamaha G50. It too is a MIDI > interface so it is a good choice if you already have synths and samplers > that you like. The problem that I have with a lot of the newer Roland > dedicated guitar synths is that they are pretty much a > "what-you-see-is-what-you-get" deal. They aren't true MIDI translation > devices. They track fine if you just want to play their own internal sounds, > but if you try to MIDI out to other devices, forget it. (An ability you must > have if you'd like to do stuff like trigger samplers or even ATTEMPT to > record to a MIDI sequencer.) > > The Yamaha G50 is good. It uses the Axxon "neural net" technology, so it > tracks almost as good as those high-end systems,(and I am a bass player who > uses it on a 5-string) but you can usually find them used for a little more > than the Roland GI10. It also uses the 13-pin connector, so you can use it > with the GK2a, Yamahas G1D, the Axxon pickup, or any of the compatible piezo > systems. > > >From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? > >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:16:43 +0200 > > > >An optional way of Midi-Guitar is to use the Roland GK2A Pickup and the > >Roland GI10 interface. > >This device has no "Soundsection".nevertheless it is very flexible. > >With this device you can Miditrigger all kinds of soundmodules.(You can do > >it also with the a > >full GR30 for example),but I didn´t wanted another synth,so I choosed the > >GI10. > >The thing I don´t like at GR1,GR09.GR30 and GR33 is the fact,that > >manipulation of the sound is > >not amazing.They are more presetplayers. > >Try to get a used Ensoniq EPS16+R,this is a fine Sampler,wich offers the > >GuitarMidiMonoMode. > >The sounds are cool and the library is big.And it should be really cheap > >now. > >There are so many possibilities for used synths at a small price. > > > >Another Guitar Midi Interface is from AXXON,they trigger a little faster as > >the Rolands and have > >more options.They use also the GK2A. > > > > > >---------- > > >Von: Goddess > > >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >Betreff: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? > > >Datum: Don, 21. Jun 2001 20:49 Uhr > > > > > > > > Hello, as far as I know, the least expensive way to get into a midi > > >capable instrument, would be to first, buy an innexpensive guitar that > >you > > >feel plays well and then purchase a roland GK-2-A pickup, which you'll > >need > > >to install on the instrument. After that, you might consider looking > >for > > >a used Roland guitar synthesizer, I.E. GR-1 , or GR-30. Actually, it > > >occurrs to me as I'm writing this, that there was also a super > >inexpensive > > >digitech system several years ago, called the Pitch Rider, which > >consisted > > >of a pickup and a single rackspace unit, which seemed pretty nice. You > > >might also be able to find a used Casio (I hope I spelled that right) > > >synth guitar, which to my knowledge, is an all-in-one guitar synthesizer. > > >Anyway, hope this helps, and I'm sure there'll be many others on the list > > >who have great suggestions. -Good luck! > > > > > >Smiles, > > > > > >Goddess > > > > > >At 06:30 PM 6/21/01 +0800, you wrote: > > >>All the loopers, > > >> > > >>I am a guitar player who wants to get into midi world . I have so little > > >>money ,but I need a useful midi guitar to translate me playing to midi > > >>information . If you have some good ideas ,please tell me . And if > >someone > > >>has midi guitars to sell .Tell me also.Thanks! > > >> By the way, I am looking for drum loops , please give some web sites > >which > > >>can give loops. > > >> I am new here ,I hope I can be friends with all of you .Thanks again. > > >>Best Regards > > >>Anotherbbs > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >--- > > > > > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > > >-Then, anything is possible..." > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 02:12:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22892; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 02:07:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 02:07:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:07:45 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? In-reply-to: <3B38C97A.C9C78C51@zerocrossing.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <3B38C97A.C9C78C51@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: <_PRKvB.A.xiF.eZCO7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:42 AM -0700 6/26/01, Mark wrote: >I think people find this is a problem when the bend range on the >Roland sound is different than the midi sound. This is a problem with any sort of MIDI conversion interface. Just try singing into a pitch to MIDI convertor if the pitch bend range doesn't match the range on the tone module! Disastrous! -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 02:15:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23067; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 02:11:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 02:11:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106260610.f5Q6AoY03167@picard.skynet.be> From: "Hugo Haesaert" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:10:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: EDP's just turned up Reply-to: hugo.haesaert@skynet.be Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Andy n All ! Does this mean the long awaited EC verion is finally shipping ? My friendly local emporium (Midician, Gent Belgium) has been trying to get hold of some, but whom has distributership is very unclear at the moment . Hmm ... i wonder which machine will hit these lowland shores first ;^) Bye for now . Keep 'em oscillating :) Hugo = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 03:22:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA27466; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:15:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:15:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <018701c0fe0f$a7907280$5543f93f@dnlsh01> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106260547.BAA20739@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: OT: Cajones for Cojones Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:14:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <0iLNJD.A.rrG.gYDO7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com James wrote: <<>> This post is so amazingly synchronous!!! I am preparing this week for my upcoming Looping Tour. I also just happened, yesterday, to have visited an older gentleman who is friends with my wife from her work at a local independent bookstore. Noticing his beautiful woodworking set up in his garage I told him that I have always wanted to build a "Cajon" which is a traditional Cuban folkloric insturment that is basically a plywood box that produces deep bass tones and high pitched slapping sounds that makes it analogous to a conga drum. The commercial ones available are really expensive and out of my price range. He laughed, and said, "I thought that Cajones meant testicles". I, being a non-spanish speaker, replied "I think they are spelled the same but they mean different things contextually". It is just so amazing that this thread is occuring and this all happened, coincidentally, yesterday. Gracia por la leccion piquena in Espanol, Ricardo (el looppool) PS I'm sure I screwed that sentence up but I had to risk it ;-0) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 04:14:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA30895; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 04:10:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 04:10:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RMOUNEYR@bouyguestelecom.fr Message-Id: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C0A@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouyguestelecom.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: 3D Audio Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:09:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > i was wondering which are your experiences > about 3D audio software. > Which packages do you find useful ? Up to today, the only software i found is : Sonic Foundry Vegas You can switch to quadriphonic output or surround. But i'm in the process of creating a dedicated software with a friend to play live 3D shows (up to 8 speakers), hope it will work one day... RAF. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 11:29:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12779; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:26:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:26:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:03:14 -0500 From: Matt Jacques Subject: Electrix questions In-reply-to: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C0A@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouyguestelecom.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just got my FilterFactory yesterday to go along with the Mo-Fx unit I got from Alto music a couple weeks ago. I've got both units working nicely with both CD's and LP's as input, but i'm having problems setting them up with my keyboards and my computer. With the keyboards, I was running the output from a Roland U-20 controller (tried both mix out and direct out) into the FF unit, then into the 1/4" inputs on a Roland U-70 (which has onboard speakers). The volume level seemed to be WAY too loud, and it sounded like the FF was mostly self-oscilating, and I wasn't getting the U-20 coming through much at all. Do I need a mixer to set the levels correctly, or is there anything else I need to do to get the FF filtering my U-20 correctly? Secondly, I set up the FF at my computer with a mini-to-RCA converter. Line out from sound card went directly to the FF, then RCA-to-mini back to line in on the sound card (SBLive). Anyways, this approach seemed to work as far as processing the sound goes, but my problem was that I was hearing both the original sound (from the computer) AND the FF line in. If I set to record the line in, I get just the FF signal recorded (which is what I want). Any way to kill the original sound, and hear ONLY the line in? Lastly (I swear), when I hooked up the FF and Mo-Fx to work together, I noticed that the signal levels in the second unit were always much lower (using CD as source). I don't have a mixer yet, do I need one to keep the levels up when I've got these effects chained (wouldn't think so)? I tried logging into the newly set up Delphi Electrix group, but the registration seems to be messing up on me. Anyways, thanks for ANY advice or help for this Electrix novice... Matt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 14:34:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19151; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:30:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:30:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0fe6d$924bb7a0$fbb01597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C0A@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouyguestelecom.fr> Subject: Re: 3D Audio Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:26:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Another freeware I found that has the possibility of quadriphonic output is the Modplug Tracker (which in the last incarnation can even use VST plug-ins) - well, it can save its mixdowns to quadriphonic .Wav files with various degrees of sample rate and bits, and I find it to be very useful and with a good computer it supports up to 128 voices of poliphony - not that bad for a free software ain't it? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:09 AM Subject: RE: 3D Audio > > i was wondering which are your experiences > > about 3D audio software. > > Which packages do you find useful ? > > Up to today, the only software i found is : Sonic Foundry Vegas > You can switch to quadriphonic output or surround. > > But i'm in the process of creating a dedicated software with a friend to > play live 3D shows (up to 8 speakers), hope it will work one day... > RAF. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 15:23:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21637; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:21:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:21:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: "Loopers (E-mail)" Subject: Midwest loopfest Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:17:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0FE74.99AE43D0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FE74.99AE43D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Not exactly "last call" but a friendly reminder and bit of encouragement for those of you who would like to play a part in this looping carnival that will tentatively take place in late August most likely in Chicago but possibly additional towns - a tour of sorts. Please contact me at openjam@aol.com... tq ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FE74.99AE43D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Midwest loopfest

Not exactly "last call" but a friendly = reminder and bit of encouragement for those of you who would like to = play a part in this looping carnival that will tentatively take place = in late August most likely in Chicago but possibly additional towns - a = tour of sorts.

Please contact me at openjam@aol.com...

tq

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FE74.99AE43D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 15:28:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21380; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:13:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:13:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B38DD63.479665D2@club.lemonde.fr> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:07:15 +0200 From: "o.malhomme" Reply-To: o.malhomme@club.lemonde.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Spirit's... References: <200106251614.MAA14838@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "The spirits are great guitars, and anyone who says otherwise hasnt played one." oooohh... I was under the impression those were not that good even fr their price. I was considering buying a GU7R (but they never show on the eurpean music yo site). The luthier that built and designed (in wrong order) my "Tap Guitar" (meaning something related to the stick, but with an obvious care for not breaking any of Emett Chapman's patents, ie: a different neck -size, fretting etc- a completely different kind of pick up and piezo in the bridge, but that is a totally other story) told me that he had to work on one a while ago and that the work, even for a low price instrument was really unsatisfying... Do these have neck as thick as original Steinies??? Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 18:27:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28099; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:23:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:23:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:15:30 -0700 Subject: la loop feste - gear needed Message-ID: <20010626.151530.216.33.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,7-8,11-12,14-33 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey folks, just spoke with ric hordinski and he has asked if a kind soul would let him use their echoplex and pedal (or jamman if necessary) for his performance at the first la loop feste. seems he has been having problems with his of late and he hasn't gotten it back from repair as expected. if anyone could do this, please either call or email me asap. ric leaves early tomorrow morning. free grab bag of stuff for the good samaritan! also, if anyone planning on attending has a camcorder, it would be great to have a video of the event. i'll be making a audio recording via either dat or md. other tapers welcome as well. oh, there will only be a few chairs there, so bringing a small chair or pillow is recommended if you want to sit. and lastly, the details for the feste are below: la loop feste I thursday, june 28, 2001 music begins about 8pm or so, but feel free to come and hang about 7pm featuring steve lawson, ric hordinski, and andre lafosse 359 east magnolia st (between san fernando and glenoaks) suite e (above lily's cafe, enter from rear) burbank, ca 91501 818-848-2570 lab/studio phone 818-563-6514 tony's home phone tony-moore@juno.com *space is limited to 20-25 folks *feel free to bring refreshments hope to see some of you folks! tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 18:36:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28113; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:23:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:23:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "future perfect" To: Subject: RE: Spirit's...(OT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:24:36 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c0fe8e$c85ca5e0$3f2f04d1@ij.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3B38DD63.479665D2@club.lemonde.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just got a GU standard 3 weeks ago, to use in lessons, and as a travel guitar. I will say, Musicyo ships their guitars with no setup at all, I mean none. You have to spend an hour or so just to get the thing to play. I still have some work to do to get rid of some of the buzzing, but it is a cool, cheap guitar that takes up just a little space. The pickups are kind of weak, and if you were using this as your main guitar, you should certainly upgrade them. Musicyo is a great thing, as long as you can either do the setup yourself, or budget in for someone else to do it. Definitely a groovy lil guitar though. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://www.hazardfactor.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 22:33:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04024; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:28:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:28:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003201c0fde7$4a3a95c0$36ab5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #222 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:25:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #222 June 14, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Pyramid Peak, a German trio influenced by Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre and Klaus Schulze. The feature CD at midnight was "Ocean Drive" on the Invisible Shadows label. Pyramid Peak http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#jun PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Remotion Science Between Fiction and Reality (Groove) Wavestar Melanie Zenith (Groove) Hemisphere Blue Now (Groove) Rudy Adrian Iridescence Iridescence (Groove) Tom Heasley Western Sky Where the Earth Meets the Sky (Hypnos) Michael Stearns Sustaining Cylinders * Sustaining Cylinders (Groove) Paul Vnuk, Jr. Silence Speaks in Silence Speaks in Shadow Shadow * (Hypnos) 12:00 am Pyramid Peak Reflections Ocean Drive (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Ocean Drive Ocean Drive (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Dive Ocean Drive (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Sunrise Ocean Drive (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Twilight * Ocean Drive (Invisible Shadows) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll conclude the month-long focus on the German trio Pyramid Peak. The feature CD at midnight will be "Fish'n Love" on Torsten Kuhn's Invisible Shadows label. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 22:39:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04450; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:35:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:35:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003d01c0fde8$1cdd9ea0$36ab5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist #222 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:31:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -----Original Message----- From: Bill Fox >EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday >at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in >Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. > > Show #222 June 14, 2001. Oops! That was June 21, not 14. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 23:58:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07035; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:55:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:55:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010626235942.00b5a310@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: nickd/pop.mindspring.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:59:42 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: nick douglas Subject: Re: micromoog for trade In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, Christopher. I'm interested in your micromoog. I've got a Vortex with a busted encoder, but I don't really want to part with it. Would you consider selling the micromoog for cash? I recognize your area code. I'm in the Atlanta area too, so we could avoid shipping costs. thx, Nick At 09:16 PM 6/25/01 -0400, you wrote: >(1) mircomoog for trade >will trade for oddball pedals such as >Z'Vex >Black Cat >Lovetone >Frostwave >etc...... >also looking for >lexicon jamman >lexicon vortex >line 6 delay >that purple line 6 who's name escapes me >expression pedals for my line 6 >anything unusual that processes sound will also be >considered >resonable trades will be loved and cherished >i have great refs >call or email me and lets talk >770-389-8685 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 26 23:59:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07214; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:57:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:57:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010627000134.01590350@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: nickd/pop.mindspring.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 00:01:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: nick douglas Subject: Re: micromoog for trade In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010626235942.00b5a310@127.0.0.1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A thousand pardons, please. My reply was meant to be offlist. DOH! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 01:58:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA11779; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 01:54:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 01:54:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "J. Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: micromoog for trade Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:53:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010627000134.01590350@127.0.0.1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I believe that's spelled "duh!" with a "u." | -----Original Message----- | From: nick douglas [mailto:nickd@mindspring.com] | Sent: Tuesday 26 June 2001 8:02 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com | Subject: Re: micromoog for trade | My reply was meant to be offlist. | | DOH! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 03:33:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA26912; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 03:30:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 03:30:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [193.89.189.147] From: "Jon Meinild" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: mac-music-edit Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:28:05 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2001 07:28:05.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4E228E0:01C0FEDA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fellow Mac-users: Which programs do you use when you edit your music - compress, fade in/out, combine with another musicpiece: prepare your music to the internet as small mp3-teasers... Best Jon Meinild _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 05:15:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA31398; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:12:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:12:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [4.48.23.56] From: "Troy Viceroy" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Unsubscribe me!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 04:11:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2001 09:11:46.0998 (UTC) FILETIME=[310A7D60:01C0FEE9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Remove my address from this e-mail hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 05:35:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA31958; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:32:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:32:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PMimlitsch@aol.com Message-ID: <9.177c6e83.286b01fc@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:31:40 EDT Subject: Re: mac-music-edit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 6/27/01 7:29:13 AM, jon_meinild@hotmail.com writes: << Which programs do you use when you edit your music >> PeakVST, TRacks, SoundJam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 05:42:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA32286; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:39:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:39:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010627053735.007cd2f0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:37:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 04:11 AM 6/27/01 -0500, Troy wrote: >Remove my address from this e-mail hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's lobster season again... If you ever need to unsubscribe, send mail to: 0000,0000,ffffLoopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject and the body. (without the quotes!) Make sure that your signature file is turned off. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 07:22:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA04537; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:19:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:19:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B39DC14.24CCFD0F@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:13:56 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me!!!!!!!!!!! References: <3.0.5.32.20010627053735.007cd2f0@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tim Nelson wrote: > > At 04:11 AM 6/27/01 -0500, Troy wrote: > >Remove my address from this e-mail hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > It's lobster season again... > > If you ever need to unsubscribe, send mail to: > > Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject and the body. (without the quotes!) > Make sure that your signature file is turned off. I cannot resist to post it again Lobsters delight each poor guy asking for unsub on the list gets automatically subscribed to the "Lobsters delight mailing list" trap where he gets a daily message on the art of sus/unscribing at the end of the week our webmaster Kim picks up his large fishing boots and goes to lobbster fishing the more polite he will free, the stupid ones he will keep, for another week or so come on litle lobsters... Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 07:30:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA04961; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:28:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:28:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:27:48 -0400 From: Floyd Miller Message-Id: <200106271127.HAA18908@portal.studiodust.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mac-music-edit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Fellow Mac-users: > > Which programs do you use when you edit your music ... Soundmaker, N2MP3 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 08:30:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA07450; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:27:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:27:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <2f.170ad6ac.286b2ae9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:26:17 EDT Subject: Re: mac-music-edit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com jon_meinild@hotmail.com writes: >Which programs do you use when you edit your music - compress, fade in/out, >combine with another musicpiece: prepare your music to the internet as >small >mp3-teasers... BIAS Peak. bleat, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 10:00:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10469; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:57:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:57:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: la loop feste - gear needed Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:53:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0FF10.94E3F1A0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FF10.94E3F1A0 Content-Type: text/plain I live in Cincinnati (Hamilton). Ric if you can swing by my home this evening I can loan you one of mine (EDP) tq -----Original Message----- From: Tony Moore [SMTP:tony-moore@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: la loop feste - gear needed hey folks, just spoke with ric hordinski and he has asked if a kind soul would let him use their echoplex and pedal (or jamman if necessary) for his performance at the first la loop feste. seems he has been having problems with his of late and he hasn't gotten it back from repair as expected. if anyone could do this, please either call or email me asap. ric leaves early tomorrow morning. free grab bag of stuff for the good samaritan! also, if anyone planning on attending has a camcorder, it would be great to have a video of the event. i'll be making a audio recording via either dat or md. other tapers welcome as well. oh, there will only be a few chairs there, so bringing a small chair or pillow is recommended if you want to sit. and lastly, the details for the feste are below: la loop feste I thursday, june 28, 2001 music begins about 8pm or so, but feel free to come and hang about 7pm featuring steve lawson, ric hordinski, and andre lafosse 359 east magnolia st (between san fernando and glenoaks) suite e (above lily's cafe, enter from rear) burbank, ca 91501 818-848-2570 lab/studio phone 818-563-6514 tony's home phone tony-moore@juno.com *space is limited to 20-25 folks *feel free to bring refreshments hope to see some of you folks! tony ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FF10.94E3F1A0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: la loop feste - gear needed

I live in Cincinnati (Hamilton). Ric = if you can swing by my home this evening I can loan you one of mine = (EDP)

tq



    -----Original = Message-----
    From:   Tony Moore = [SMTP:tony-moore@juno.com]
    Sent:   Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:16 PM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject:       = la loop feste - gear needed

    hey folks,

    just spoke with ric hordinski = and he has asked if a kind soul would let
    him use their echoplex and = pedal (or jamman if necessary) for his
    performance at the first la = loop feste. seems he has been having problems
    with his of late and he hasn't = gotten it back from repair as expected. if
    anyone could do this, please = either call or email me asap. ric leaves
    early tomorrow morning. free = grab bag of stuff for the good samaritan!

    also, if anyone planning on = attending has a camcorder, it would be great
    to have a video of the event. = i'll be making a audio recording via either
    dat or md. other tapers welcome = as well.

    oh, there will only be a few = chairs there, so bringing a small chair or
    pillow is recommended if you = want to sit.

    and lastly, the details for the = feste are below:

    la loop feste I
    thursday, june 28, 2001
    music begins about 8pm or so, = but feel free to come and hang about 7pm
    featuring steve lawson, ric = hordinski, and andre lafosse
    359 east magnolia st (between = san fernando and glenoaks)
    suite e (above lily's cafe, = enter from rear)
    burbank, ca 91501
    818-848-2570 lab/studio = phone
    818-563-6514 tony's home = phone
    tony-moore@juno.com
    *space is limited to 20-25 = folks
    *feel free to bring = refreshments

    hope to see some of you = folks!

    tony

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0FF10.94E3F1A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 10:22:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12398; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:18:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:18:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B39DC14.24CCFD0F@vtx.ch> References: <3.0.5.32.20010627053735.007cd2f0@pop.ici.net> <3B39DC14.24CCFD0F@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:17:51 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me!!!!!!!!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > each poor guy asking for unsub on the list gets automatically >subscribed > to the "Lobsters delight mailing list" trap > where he gets a daily message on the art of sus/unscribing > at the end of the week our webmaster Kim picks up his large >fishing > boots and goes to lobbster fishing > the more polite he will free, the stupid ones he will keep, >for another > week or so > > come on litle lobsters... actually, there used to be an ML bozos mailing list, where you could subscribe people who had done dumb things like sending email to a list asking to subscribe. you'd get clear instructions as to how to unsub when you joined ML bozos but no one read it so all the traffic was things like "unsubscribe me, please" or "where is all this email coming from?" it would make me laugh to read them all. but it got shutdown. pity. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 11:05:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15604; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:01:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:01:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cave@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1-J Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:00:30 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: Re: mac-music-edit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, >Fellow Mac-users: > >Which programs do you use when you edit your music - compress, fade >in/out, combine with another musicpiece: prepare your music to the >internet as small mp3-teasers... I still use Digidesign Sound designer II. it is classic for me. And I use TC SPARK. SPARK's user interface as same as SDII, also it can use TDM and VST plug-ins. About mp3 encode, I use iTunes. Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 11:49:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17136; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:46:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:46:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3AA841.6CD52592@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:45:05 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mac-music-edit References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I must say that Spark is nice for it's realtime previews using VST plug-ins. Mark Sunao Inami wrote: > Hi, > > >Fellow Mac-users: > > > >Which programs do you use when you edit your music - compress, fade > >in/out, combine with another musicpiece: prepare your music to the > >internet as small mp3-teasers... > > I still use Digidesign Sound designer II. it is classic for me. > And I use TC SPARK. SPARK's user interface as same as SDII, also it can use > TDM and VST plug-ins. > About mp3 encode, I use iTunes. > > Sunao Inami > http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 12:05:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18739; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:02:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:02:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.grob.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <006401c0eeb0$060c5460$7bb387d8@cliff> References: <006401c0eeb0$060c5460$7bb387d8@cliff> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:02:01 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: EDP Midi updates in new OS? Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Re: EDP Midi updates in new OS?
Mattias and Kim-
 
Hi guys- been using my EDP synced or generating Midi Clock lately- either to Cubase, Acid or out to a delay unit- I am wondering if the new software will support timecode and also if there will be a way to re-sync to incoming clock on the fly- the 2 sources drift after awhile and also it would make tempo transitions smooth I think- Thanks again- Cliff

yes, resync is one of the major things we were working about, Claude helped a lot.


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 13:56:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22733; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:46:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:46:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: 27 Jun 2001 18:45:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20010627174546.18.cpmta@c000.muc.cp.net> X-Sent: 27 Jun 2001 17:45:46 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: anthony flynn X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.9.3.1 X-Sent-From: wildlifecathedral@altavista.co.uk Subject: unsubscribe Resent-Message-ID: <1cVt4C.A.6iF.NvhO7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com unsubcribe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 14:00:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22723; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:45:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:45:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B39C767.75B5D432@pseudobuddha.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:45:45 +0100 From: Bobdog Reply-To: bobdog@pseudobuddha.com Organization: Pseudo Buddha X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mac-music-edit References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com digital performer loaded w/piles of plug-ins for audio manipulation; audio catalyst or itunes for mp3 rips. bobdog Jon Meinild wrote: > Fellow Mac-users: > > Which programs do you use when you edit your music - compress, fade in/out, > combine with another musicpiece: prepare your music to the internet as small > mp3-teasers... > > Best > Jon Meinild From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 14:25:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25855; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:22:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:22:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.113.244] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: bobdog@pseudobuddha.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mac-music-edit Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:20:38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2001 18:20:38.0830 (UTC) FILETIME=[DDF144E0:01C0FF35] Resent-Message-ID: <-dCxj.A.mTG.VQiO7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

My fellow PC User's - This is what I use to render my mixes !

 * Sonic Foundry ACID Pro 3.0, Sonic Foundry Sound Forge 5.0, Cool Edit Pro 1.2a, Cool Edit 2000, Sonic Foundry Vegas Audio 2.0g, Reason, ReCycle 2.0, Mixman Studio 4.0, Goldwave (why you ask ?), AudioCatalyst 2.1, Sonar 1.0.1, Rebirth, FruityLoops 3.1.1 (with the FruityScratcher Plugin, that sux !), DreamStation, Cubase VST, Wavelab 3, MixMeister 3, ProTools Free, and Cubase InWire and my Brain !

Jon Meinild wrote:
> Fellow Mac-users:
>
> Which programs do you use when you edit your music - compress, fade in/out,
> combine with another musicpiece: prepare your music to the internet as small
> mp3-teasers...
>
> Best
> Jon Meinild

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 14:28:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24943; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:07:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:07:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Christopher White" Subject: Re: micromoog for trade To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.6 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:11:16 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010626235942.00b5a310@127.0.0.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey man how much do you want to pay for the moog? call me i am at work 770 960 4378 c. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:59:42 -0400 nick douglas wrote: > Hey, Christopher. > > I'm interested in your micromoog. > I've got a Vortex with a busted encoder, but I don't > really want to part > with it. Would you consider selling the micromoog for > cash? > > I recognize your area code. I'm in the Atlanta area too, > so we could avoid > shipping costs. > > thx, > Nick > > At 09:16 PM 6/25/01 -0400, you wrote: > >(1) mircomoog for trade > >will trade for oddball pedals such as > >Z'Vex > >Black Cat > >Lovetone > >Frostwave > >etc...... > >also looking for > >lexicon jamman > >lexicon vortex > >line 6 delay > >that purple line 6 who's name escapes me > >expression pedals for my line 6 > >anything unusual that processes sound will also be > >considered > >resonable trades will be loved and cherished > >i have great refs > >call or email me and lets talk > >770-389-8685 > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 14:28:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25837; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:21:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:21:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [198.81.16.47] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:19:54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2001 18:19:55.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3D57630:01C0FF35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Hell is in your mind!!!

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>Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 04:11:46 -0500
>
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 14:31:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26025; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:23:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:23:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006501c0ff36$a8b49e20$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <006401c0eeb0$060c5460$7bb387d8@cliff> Subject: Re: EDP Midi updates in new OS? Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:25:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01C0FEFB.EA434F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C0FEFB.EA434F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: EDP Midi updates in new OS?LOL- I was reading this and thinking, = "Yeah, good question!" , and waddaya know- I asked it in the first = place! Wasn't expecting to see my name at the bottom of the post-=20 Thanks for the reply Mattias- I appreciate the continued support of the = EDP- looking forward to the update- Do you expect to have enough supply? = If not, can I pre-pay? :) Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matthias Grob=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:02 AM Subject: Re: EDP Midi updates in new OS? Mattias and Kim- Hi guys- been using my EDP synced or generating Midi Clock lately- = either to Cubase, Acid or out to a delay unit- I am wondering if the new = software will support timecode and also if there will be a way to = re-sync to incoming clock on the fly- the 2 sources drift after awhile = and also it would make tempo transitions smooth I think- Thanks again- = Cliff yes, resync is one of the major things we were working about, Claude = helped a lot. --=20 ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C0FEFB.EA434F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: EDP Midi updates in new OS?
LOL- I was reading this and thinking, "Yeah, good = question!" ,=20 and waddaya know- I asked it in the first place! Wasn't expecting to see = my name=20 at the bottom of the post-
Thanks for the reply Mattias- I appreciate the = continued=20 support of the EDP- looking forward to the update- Do you expect to have = enough=20 supply? If not, can I pre-pay? :)
 
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matthias Grob=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 = 9:02=20 AM
Subject: Re: EDP Midi updates = in new=20 OS?

Mattias and=20 Kim-
 
Hi guys- been using my = EDP synced=20 or generating Midi Clock lately- either to Cubase, Acid or out to a = delay=20 unit- I am wondering if the new software will support timecode and = also if=20 there will be a way to re-sync to incoming clock on the fly- the 2 = sources=20 drift after awhile and also it would make tempo transitions smooth I = think-=20 Thanks again- Cliff

yes, resync is one of the major things we were working about, = Claude=20 helped a lot.


--=20


         --->=20 http://Matthias.Grob.org
------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C0FEFB.EA434F20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 14:56:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27136; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:51:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:51:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AaroneousAG@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:49:16 EDT Subject: Octophonic sound system To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: <_3tfhD.A.rlG.4qiO7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi! I'm very interested in the software you and your friend are working on. I got your post through Looper's Delight, and I have to say I was floored. I've thought about an independent channel octophonic system for years now, and have many ideas on the subject. My question is, are you just making a program that will allow discreet mixing to the 8 channels, or are you programming an automatic mixing architecture that will allow locallized sound placement within an audio matrix field? This way, one could use a joystick to "drive" a sound across the field, and, if one were especially tricky, program psychoacoustic effects to follow the sound along, such as a simple phased doppler effect as it passes "center" or a reverb dispersion which simulates space beyond the speaker array itself, turning a localized listening room into an enourmous cathedral. This kind of software would also be crucial for the programming of supersonic sounds summing out of phase at their intersection point, creating an ACTUAL locallized sound, which can only be heard within the intersection. As you might know, supersonic sounds have a low rate of dispersion, and can be focused like a laser. If one were to create an array of these speakers, one could actually pixellate sound. (providing there's no one and nothing else in the room to obstruct the sounds from reaching their intersection) Please let me know if any of these are being addressed, and when you expect to be finished. Sincerely, Aaron Goldsmith From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 14:57:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27310; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:53:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:53:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AaroneousAG@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:51:44 EDT Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sorry folks, that was meant for his eyes only! Guess it was a matter of time before I did it too! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 15:37:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29395; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:34:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:34:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005501c0ff3f$af889400$6b44230a@melon> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010627053735.007cd2f0@pop.ici.net><3B39DC14.24CCFD0F@vtx.ch> Subject: OT: Unsubscribe me!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:30:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm starting to get suspicious that LD has BECOME the ML bozos list. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ritchford" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me!!!!!!!!!!! > > each poor guy asking for unsub on the list gets automatically > >subscribed > > to the "Lobsters delight mailing list" trap > > where he gets a daily message on the art of sus/unscribing > > at the end of the week our webmaster Kim picks up his large > >fishing > > boots and goes to lobbster fishing > > the more polite he will free, the stupid ones he will keep, > >for another > > week or so > > > > come on litle lobsters... > > actually, there used to be an ML bozos mailing list, > where you could subscribe people who had done dumb > things like sending email to a list asking to subscribe. > > you'd get clear instructions as to how to unsub > when you joined ML bozos but no one read it so > all the traffic was things like "unsubscribe me, please" > or "where is all this email coming from?" > > it would make me laugh to read them all. but it got > shutdown. pity. > > /t > > > that was fast > > .......all legal games of chess ...... > .....programmer's documentation .................. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 15:41:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29665; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:39:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:39:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <89.8927bcc.286b8ff3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:37:23 EDT Subject: Re: EDP's just turned up in UK To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 27/06/01 15:00:49 GMT Daylight Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > Does this mean the long awaited EC verion is finally shipping ? My > friendly local emporium (Midician, Gent Belgium) has been trying to > get hold of some, but whom has distributership is very unclear at the > moment . > > Hmm ... i wonder which machine will hit these lowland shores first ;^) No, no CE yet. I bought them straight from Trace Elliot. if you're interested contact andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com they have about 80 machines to sell, andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 16:04:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31321; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:00:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:00:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003e01c0ff43$521e8f00$ecc17ad5@Arnellbtinternet.com> From: "Fred.Arnell" To: References: <89.8927bcc.286b8ff3@aol.com> Subject: Re: EDP's just turned up in UK Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:56:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com How much are the EDP's selling for in the UK? Thanks Fred Arnell ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:37 PM Subject: Re: EDP's just turned up in UK > In a message dated 27/06/01 15:00:49 GMT Daylight Time, > Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > > > Does this mean the long awaited EC verion is finally shipping ? My > > friendly local emporium (Midician, Gent Belgium) has been trying to > > get hold of some, but whom has distributership is very unclear at the > > moment . > > > > Hmm ... i wonder which machine will hit these lowland shores first ;^) > No, no CE yet. > I bought them straight from Trace Elliot. > if you're interested contact > andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com > > they have about 80 machines to sell, > > andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 16:40:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32327; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:34:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:34:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4D34@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: EDP's just turned up in UK Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:33:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com for boomerangs they menton an OP AMP that may be installed anybody got info on this OP amp for th boomerang pedalbaords? Denis Denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Fred.Arnell [mailto:Fred.Arnell@BTinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:56 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP's just turned up in UK How much are the EDP's selling for in the UK? Thanks Fred Arnell ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:37 PM Subject: Re: EDP's just turned up in UK > In a message dated 27/06/01 15:00:49 GMT Daylight Time, > Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > > > Does this mean the long awaited EC verion is finally shipping ? My > > friendly local emporium (Midician, Gent Belgium) has been trying to > > get hold of some, but whom has distributership is very unclear at the > > moment . > > > > Hmm ... i wonder which machine will hit these lowland shores first ;^) > No, no CE yet. > I bought them straight from Trace Elliot. > if you're interested contact > andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com > > they have about 80 machines to sell, > > andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 18:57:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05818; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:51:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:51:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3A6237.8068632A@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:46:15 -0400 From: "Jeff Duke (echo17)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Yo References: <20010620214120.31318.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> <000b01c0f9d6$32e415a0$056978c7@0017470167> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am now using two Fernandes, I got a Decade awhile back and though it has some shortcomings like cheap hardware, switches, bridge saddles etc., it got me hooked on the Sustainer! I had a learning curve w/ it but now cannot do w/out it. I now have a Revolver pro that really plays like a dream come true for me. It has a Floyd Rose that really stays in tune and I cannot say anything but good things about it. The best part for me was that it was a *blem* from Musicions Friend at 399.00 no tax or shipping! Finally I love them so much that I gave my Strat that I played exclusivly for 10 yrs. to my niece who needed an ax. I have never missed it.... peace, Jeff Q wrote: > > I'm just wondering if anyone here uses Steinbergers...or, if anyone uses > those Fernandes Sustainer guitars. I thought it'd be something worth looking > into..so, if anyone has either of these, tell me what kind and if you like > them. > > I love my Steinberger Spirit! > > -Andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 19:25:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07517; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:22:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:22:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [65.34.83.167] From: "Paolo Valladolid" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Who knows which MIDI Guitar is cheap and useful? Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:21:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2001 23:21:13.0087 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB3280F0:01C0FF5F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Try this: http://www.lateralsol.com/ Unregistered version is free, registered version is $35 US. How well does it work? Judge for yourself. Paolo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 19:42:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08012; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:40:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:40:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-226.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.226] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010628014722.00a2a370@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:47:22 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: RE: 3D Audio In-Reply-To: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C0A@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouy guestelecom.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:09 a.m. 26/06/01 +0200, you wrote: hi and thanks >> i was wondering which are your experiences >> about 3D audio software. >> Which packages do you find useful ? > >Up to today, the only software i found is : Sonic Foundry Vegas >You can switch to quadriphonic output or surround. i'll check out the Vegas package ... thanks ! Anyway I'd like to be updated about your work on that software ... Does somebody think that the stereo is losing / will lose importance in front of other new approaches to "focality" of sound (is this the correct word?) >But i'm in the process of creating a dedicated software with a friend to >play live 3D shows (up to 8 speakers), hope it will work one day... >RAF. > Doctor_Sax_News http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News "cheers from catalonia, which language, people and culture have been harassed by centralists in spain through the years" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 19:45:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08272; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:43:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:43:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Steve Lawson" To: Subject: RE: la loop feste - gear needed Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:49:36 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0FF29.264D0E20" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0FF29.264D0E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RE: la loop feste - gear neededOn the theme of borrowed gear, I'd be hugely grateful for a 32 second jamman or second DL4 to use - I'll have my MPX-G2 and one DL4 there, but a second one would be great (with foot pedal if possible... :o) cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0FF29.264D0E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: la loop feste - gear needed
On the=20 theme of borrowed gear, I'd be hugely grateful for a 32 second jamman or = second=20 DL4 to use - I'll have my MPX-G2 and one DL4 there, but a second one = would be=20 great (with foot pedal if possible... :o)
 
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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0FF29.264D0E20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 19:45:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08288; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:43:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:43:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-226.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.226] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010628015106.00a2db70@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:51:06 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: Re: 3D Audio In-Reply-To: <001f01c0fe6d$924bb7a0$fbb01597@m7w1f4> References: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C0A@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouyguestelecom.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id TAA08188 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 08:26 p.m. 26/06/01 +0200, you wrote: hi luigi >Another freeware I found that has the possibility of quadriphonic output is >the Modplug Tracker (which in the last incarnation can even use VST >plug-ins) - well, it can save its mixdowns to quadriphonic .Wav files with >various degrees of sample rate and bits, and I find it to be very useful and >with a good computer it supports up to 128 voices of poliphony - not that >bad for a free software ain't it? may you know the address where to download the plug-in ? thanks a lot from València (Mare Nostrum) Junkie G Doctor_Sax_News http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News "cheers from catalonia, which language, people and culture have been harassed by centralists in spain through the years" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 20:06:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10500; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:03:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:03:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-237.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.237] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 02:10:47 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system In-Reply-To: <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 02:51 p.m. 27/06/01 EDT, you wrote: >Sorry folks, that was meant for his eyes only! Guess it was a matter of time before I did it too! I think it's an interesting matter, and i'd like to follow your discussion ...anybody else? yours, Junkie G Doctor_Sax_News http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News "cheers from catalonia, which language, people and culture have been harassed by centralists in spain through the years" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 22:20:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14678; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:14:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:14:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010627201911.007c6100@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:19:11 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> References: <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Actually, myself as well. I know someone who's been working in octophonic mixes for quite some time now. I'll ask him next time I see him about which software he's been using. He's actually building a studio around the concept at this point. Smiles, Goddess At 02:10 AM 6/28/01 +0200, you wrote: >At 02:51 p.m. 27/06/01 EDT, you wrote: >>Sorry folks, that was meant for his eyes only! Guess it was a matter of time before I did it too! > >I think it's an interesting >matter, and i'd like to follow >your discussion ...anybody else? > >yours, >Junkie G > >Doctor_Sax_News >http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News > >"cheers from catalonia, >which language, people >and culture have been harassed >by centralists in spain through the years" > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 22:41:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15010; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:39:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:39:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:39:16 -0400 Subject: Re: mac-music-edit From: David Myers To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On the cheap, Soundmaker is pretty awesome. Got mine for about $35. I use Cubase mostly just to access the plugins (Pluggo rules, for $74!), but soon Bias' VBox will be the plugin dominator--I just wanna run them effects! David Lee Myers http://www.pulsewidth.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ourobouros" CD of new Feedback Music available now on Pulsewidth! In NYC at Downtown Music, Kim's Mondo, Kim's West, and Other Music, and through Forced Exposure, Anomalous, Wayside, CDeMusic/Electronic Music Foundation, Deep Listening Catalog, Crouton Music, Recommended (UK), Staalplaat (Netherlands), and Metamkine (France). on 6/27/01 3:28 AM, Jon Meinild at jon_meinild@hotmail.com wrote: > Fellow Mac-users: > > Which programs do you use when you edit your music - compress, fade in/out, > combine with another musicpiece: prepare your music to the internet as small > mp3-teasers... > > Best > Jon Meinild > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 27 22:47:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15161; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:44:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:44:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002201c0ff7c$7f661d00$cd8a2141@cfl.rr.com> From: "Jehn" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:46:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com bring it on... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Junkie G" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system > At 02:51 p.m. 27/06/01 EDT, you wrote: > >Sorry folks, that was meant for his eyes only! Guess it was a matter of time before I did it too! > > I think it's an interesting > matter, and i'd like to follow > your discussion ...anybody else? > > yours, > Junkie G > > Doctor_Sax_News > http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News > > "cheers from catalonia, > which language, people > and culture have been harassed > by centralists in spain through the years" > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 01:06:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20681; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:03:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:03:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3B6314.3E134649@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:02:12 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT steinberger guitar question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, I bought a used Steinberger guitar and it has an adjustment on the tail piece, under the string tuners, that looks like a larger fatter string tuner. Any Steinberger owners know what this adjustment is for? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 01:07:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA21087; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:05:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:05:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RobbCappelletto@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:04:58 EDT Subject: Re: OT steinberger guitar question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the knob is to adjust the tension of the spring for the tremolo you should set it so that you can slide the lock in and out of place without affecting the tuning. -Robb From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 03:15:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA25935; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:12:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:12:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <11e.e808e5.286c3291@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:11:13 EDT Subject: Re: How much are the EDP's selling for in the UK? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id DAA25883 Resent-Message-ID: <1dYMK.A.zUG.VitO7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > How much are the EDP's selling for in the UK? Well Andy Ewen at Trace is doing deals on a 'product tester' basis. andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com I'd imagine he'd do the same sort of deal for you. the deal I got was this :- 2 EDPs + 2 footcontrollers + shipping for £935 (about £400 per plex & £50 per pedal) I reckon that's as good as you'll get. I was quoted that it'd be about £700 for one plex with no footpedal from a music shop. The "review" in Guitar magazine quotes £500 per plex + £100 per pedal well now you know andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 03:15:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA25933; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:12:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:12:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <8a.8a70036.286c3292@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:11:14 EDT Subject: Re: ML Bozos To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com SUBSCRIBE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 04:24:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA28424; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 04:21:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 04:21:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RMOUNEYR@bouyguestelecom.fr Message-Id: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C1B@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouyguestelecom.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: 3D Audio Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:09:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id EAA28399 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.modplug.com > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Junkie G [SMTP:rauboto@dragonet.es] > Date: jeudi 28 juin 2001 01:51 > À: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Objet: Re: 3D Audio > > At 08:26 p.m. 26/06/01 +0200, you wrote: > > hi luigi > > >Another freeware I found that has the possibility of quadriphonic output > is > >the Modplug Tracker (which in the last incarnation can even use VST > >plug-ins) - well, it can save its mixdowns to quadriphonic .Wav files > with > >various degrees of sample rate and bits, and I find it to be very useful > and > >with a good computer it supports up to 128 voices of poliphony - not that > >bad for a free software ain't it? > > may you know the address where to > download the plug-in ? > > thanks a lot from València (Mare Nostrum) > Junkie G > > Doctor_Sax_News > http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News > > "cheers from catalonia, > which language, people > and culture have been harassed > by centralists in spain through the years" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 04:26:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA28602; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 04:24:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 04:24:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RMOUNEYR@bouyguestelecom.fr Message-Id: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C1C@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouyguestelecom.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:22:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id EAA28568 Resent-Message-ID: <_OAqXC.A.n-G.6luO7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey, >>discret mixing VS automatic mixing It's interesting you're talking about a joystick. This is the way we intend to control the sound placement (and 2 joystick for Octophonic, like if you're driving a Caterpillar). In order to be able to recreate the ambience, we are recording the joystick movements. So we let the original sound (wav file) without modifications. I've not thought about virtual spaces thanks to reverb or supersonic sounds summing, this way looks interesting, but i think my technical knowledge in audio treatment is a bit too poor. If you have more info on this i'm interested. You have to know that here in Paris, at the IRCAM (http://www.ircam.fr director: Pierre Boulez) The often play Octophonic shows with software/hardware of their own. Unfortunately, i've missed the las one on 21st june. They provide a subscription to a service (i think it's worldwide) where you have acces to a lot of software they developp. interesting, but expensive to me. I finish my job tomorrow, and i have two months to run into music at 100%. We don't have a deadline for this project, we're just working on it, and as we aren't Audio developpers (only simple C++ developpers), some things are a real headache. This subject is opened to any ideas. RAF. > -----Message d'origine----- > De: AaroneousAG@aol.com [SMTP:AaroneousAG@aol.com] > Date: mercredi 27 juin 2001 20:49 > À: Loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Objet: Octophonic sound system > > Hi! > > I'm very interested in the software you and your friend are working on. > I got your post through Looper's Delight, and I have to say I was floored. > I've thought about an independent channel octophonic system for years now, > and have many ideas on the subject. > > My question is, are you just making a program that will allow discreet > mixing to the 8 channels, or are you programming an automatic mixing > architecture that will allow locallized sound placement within an audio > matrix field? This way, one could use a joystick to "drive" a sound > across the field, and, if one were especially tricky, program > psychoacoustic effects to follow the sound along, such as a simple phased > doppler effect as it passes "center" or a reverb dispersion which > simulates space beyond the speaker array itself, turning a localized > listening room into an enourmous cathedral. > > This kind of software would also be crucial for the programming of > supersonic sounds summing out of phase at their intersection point, > creating an ACTUAL locallized sound, which can only be heard within the > intersection. As you might know, supersonic sounds have a low rate of > dispersion, and can be focused like a laser. If one were to create an > array of these speakers, one could actually pixellate sound. (providing > there's no one and nothing else in the room to obstruct the sounds from > reaching their intersection) > > Please let me know if any of these are being addressed, and when you > expect to be finished. > > Sincerely, > Aaron Goldsmith From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 06:59:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32727; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:43:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:43:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.grob.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <006501c0ff36$a8b49e20$7bb387d8@cliff> References: <006401c0eeb0$060c5460$7bb387d8@cliff> <006501c0ff36$a8b49e20$7bb387d8@cliff> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:42:30 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: EDP Midi updates in new OS? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >LOL- I was reading this and thinking, "Yeah, good question!" , and >waddaya know- I asked it in the first place! Wasn't expecting to see >my name at the bottom of the post- yes, I am about a month behind mail, sorry :-) >Thanks for the reply Mattias- I appreciate the continued support of >the EDP- looking forward to the update- Do you expect to have enough >supply? If not, can I pre-pay? :) oh thank you for caring. Its a nice idea, but what if I discover that the thing is never going to work right? :-) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Matthias Grob >To: >Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:02 AM >Subject: Re: EDP Midi updates in new OS? > >>Mattias and Kim- >> > > >Hi guys- been using my EDP synced or generating Midi Clock lately- >either to Cubase, Acid or out to a delay unit- I am wondering if the >new software will support timecode and also if there will be a way >to re-sync to incoming clock on the fly- the 2 sources drift after >awhile and also it would make tempo transitions smooth I think- >Thanks again- Cliff > > >yes, resync is one of the major things we were working about, Claude >helped a lot. > > >-- > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 11:22:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11092; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:19:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:19:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01d501c0ffe5$824dbbe0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010628014722.00a2a370@mail.dragonet.es> Subject: Re: 3D Audio Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:16:00 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Resent-Message-ID: <7Nmkl.A.osC.jq0O7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You know, Winamp has a plugin that outputs A3D sound from a WAV input. I wonder if it could be modified to output an A3D-compliant file? Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 11:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11504; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:25:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:25:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:24:39 EDT Subject: LA Loop-Fete info, again? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey-ya. could someone please re-post the date/time/location of the first annual LA Loopfest, again? thanks. dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 11:29:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11702; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:27:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:27:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <92.16ade492.286ca6a2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:26:26 EDT Subject: Re: OT steinberger guitar question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <3mkXkC.A.c0C.ny0O7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sine@zerocrossing.net writes: >I bought a used Steinberger guitar and it has an adjustment on the tail >piece, >under the string tuners, that looks like a larger fatter string tuner. > Any >Steinberger owners know what this adjustment is for? which bridge/tailpiece is it? onna trantrem, that knob is the bridge's 'master tuner'. dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 11:30:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11957; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:28:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:28:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again? Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:28:03 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com la loop feste I thursday, june 28, 2001 music begins about 8pm or so, but feel free to come and hang about 7pm featuring steve lawson, ric hordinski, and andre lafosse 359 east magnolia st (between san fernando and glenoaks) suite e (above lily's cafe, enter from rear) burbank, ca 91501 818-848-2570 lab/studio phone 818-563-6514 tony's home phone tony-moore@juno.com *space is limited to 20-25 folks *feel free to bring refreshments -----Original Message----- From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:25 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LA Loop-Fete info, again? hey-ya. could someone please re-post the date/time/location of the first annual LA Loopfest, again? thanks. dt / s-c Are you coming, dt? Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 13:13:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16179; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:10:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:10:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001601c0fff4$d9981620$85b61597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Subject: Re:3D Audio - soundblaster exploiting Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:07:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C10005.97775060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Messaggio in formato MIME composto da più parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C10005.97775060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I really wonder is - The soundblaster live (1024, platinum, 5.1, = oem...) is one of the more diffused soundcards around - is it possible = that no plug-ins programmer has tried to create a plug-in that uses its = dsp? it is a powerful - not used chip- it is used less (way less) that = on the Emu APS, so a great part of its power lies there unused in our = PC. And this could even be useful to create 3d plug-ins for that card, = as it has two stereo outs (not counting the spdif). The only audio = software that tries to exploit the power of a soundblaster live (at = least the only one I heard about during the C.I.M. - Colloquium Of = Musical Informatics which was held in L'Aquila (Italy) in the last = summer) is the C-Sound, but it isn't that easy to use, and not every = musician wants to be a programmer, but under the windows platform I = couldn't find anything. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C10005.97775060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What I really wonder is - The = soundblaster live=20 (1024, platinum, 5.1, oem...) is one of the more diffused soundcards = around - is=20 it possible that no plug-ins programmer has tried to create a plug-in = that uses=20 its dsp? it is a powerful - not used chip- it is used less (way less) = that on=20 the Emu APS, so a great part of its power lies there unused in our PC. = And this=20 could even be useful to create 3d plug-ins for that card, as it has two = stereo=20 outs (not counting the spdif). The only audio software that tries to = exploit the=20 power of a soundblaster live (at least the only one I heard about during = the=20 C.I.M. - Colloquium Of Musical Informatics which was held in L'Aquila = (Italy) in=20 the last summer) is the C-Sound, but it isn't that easy to use, and not = every=20 musician wants to be a programmer, but under the windows platform I = couldn't=20 find anything.
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C10005.97775060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 14:35:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19561; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:32:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:32:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:32:23 +0100 Subject: Re: OT steinberger guitar question From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <92.16ade492.286ca6a2@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It is a master tuner (I think adjusts the spring tension for overall tuning, it's used to align the bridge with the locking mechanism so you can lock/unlock without affecting the tuning. It also means you can lock the bridge, change the tuning (say drop D) then unlock the bridge and adjust using the master tune so you can use the trem. Martin Shellard > From: Hedewa7@aol.com > sine@zerocrossing.net writes: > >> I bought a used Steinberger guitar and it has an adjustment on the tail >> piece, >> under the string tuners, that looks like a larger fatter string tuner. >> Any >> Steinberger owners know what this adjustment is for? > which bridge/tailpiece is it? > onna trantrem, that knob is the bridge's 'master tuner'. > dt / s-c > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 15:50:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23020; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:47:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:47:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-240.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.240] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010628215338.00a36100@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:53:38 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system In-Reply-To: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C1C@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouy guestelecom.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <_y9-uC.A.MlF.En4O7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:22 a.m. 28/06/01 +0200, you wrote: hi all ! >You have to know that here in Paris, at the IRCAM (http://www.ircam.fr >director: Pierre Boulez) The often play Octophonic shows with >software/hardware of their own. Unfortunately, i've missed the las one on >21st june. >They provide a subscription to a service (i think it's worldwide) where you >have acces to a lot of software they developp. interesting, but expensive to >me. i'm thinking now that the sound is always travelling in a 3D map, so ... we can have 3D audio really with cheap set ups, isn't ? ... i think Cage revealed the importance of this dimension of the sound that always was disestimed by composers as a useful tool for creativity in music ... >This subject is opened to any ideas. I'd like to contribute with some ideas if they come to mind ... thanks, Junkie G Doctor_Sax_News http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News "cheers from catalonia, which language, people and culture have been harassed by centralists in spain through the years" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 15:50:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22880; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:47:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:47:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-240.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.240] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:44:10 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010627201911.007c6100@mail.earthlink.net> References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <4TgMa.A.1kF.-m4O7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 08:19 p.m. 27/06/01 -0600, you wrote: hi there > Actually, myself as well. I know someone who's been working in >octophonic mixes for quite some time now. I'll ask him next time I see him >about which software he's been using. He's actually building a studio >around the concept at this point. > >Smiles, > >Goddess Does anybody thinking of a connection between the 3D audio and looping ? Anybody has had any experience with such a set up ? I think Fripp uses four TCs for his SoundsKapes performances, which are quadraphonic ... isn't it ? So then ...would it be necessary a multitrack system to listen to 3D audio ? thanks in advance, Junkie G Doctor_Sax_News http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News "cheers from catalonia, which language, people and culture have been harassed by centralists in spain through the years" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 15:50:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22686; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:45:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:45:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3B88BA.AB4BBE3F@altruistmusic.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:42:51 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK, between Steve's mention of some certain heavy people coming to the show and DT's query, I am now officially freaking out to a very high degree. (Certainly be good to see Mr. DT-SC again, however.) So much for a low-key casual gig! Add to that a last-minute visit from tendinitis and this is going to be a very interesting gig indeed. For those in the audience, you can look forward to the added surprise visuals of my life flashing before my very eyes during the set. If I emerge out the other side intact, I look forward to hearing from other people as to what exactly I played, 'cause I sure as hell am not going to remember it myself... Gulp, --A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 15:50:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23153; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:48:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:48:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again? Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:44:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1000A.C70DFC20" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1000A.C70DFC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Best of loops! You'll be fine tq -----Original Message----- From: Andre LaFosse [SMTP:altruist@altruistmusic.com] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:43 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? OK, between Steve's mention of some certain heavy people coming to the show and DT's query, I am now officially freaking out to a very high degree. (Certainly be good to see Mr. DT-SC again, however.) So much for a low-key casual gig! Add to that a last-minute visit from tendinitis and this is going to be a very interesting gig indeed. For those in the audience, you can look forward to the added surprise visuals of my life flashing before my very eyes during the set. If I emerge out the other side intact, I look forward to hearing from other people as to what exactly I played, 'cause I sure as hell am not going to remember it myself... Gulp, --A ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1000A.C70DFC20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again?

Best of loops!
You'll be fine
tq

    -----Original = Message-----
    From:   Andre LaFosse = [SMTP:altruist@altruistmusic.com]
    Sent:   Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:43 PM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject:       = Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again?

    OK, between Steve's mention of = some certain heavy people coming to the
    show and DT's query, I am now = officially freaking out to a very high
    degree.  (Certainly be = good to see Mr. DT-SC again, however.) 

    So much for a low-key casual = gig!

    Add to that a last-minute visit = from tendinitis and this is going to
    be a very interesting gig = indeed.  For those in the audience, you can
    look forward to the added = surprise visuals of my life flashing before
    my very eyes during the = set.  If I emerge out the other side intact, I
    look forward to hearing from = other people as to what exactly I played,
    'cause I sure as hell am not = going to remember it myself...

    Gulp,

    --A

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1000A.C70DFC20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 16:02:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24965; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:00:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:00:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010628195943.90514.qmail@web14008.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:59:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Martin Subject: Peavey delay pedal on HC To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Saw this on Harmony Central's classifieds and thought I'd pass it along. I am not selling this item myself, so please DO NOT email me! Peavey DDl3 Digital Delay Pedal Asking Price: US$50 Condition: Excellent Age: 10 years Description: Peavey DDl3 Digital Delay Pedal is an ultra quiet, studio quality 3.2 second digital delay effects pedal. Superior sound quality only found in many large rack-mount delays is housed right in this pedal. Four delay ranges, along with infinite hold function and logical, easy to use controls make the DDL-3 an excellent addition to your floor effects. High headroom line level capability allow the unit to be patched into high level fx loops for the best in "post" delay effects. Housed in a yellow diecast construction with soft touch switching and LED indicator, has a few nicks from use, comes with original packaging and manual. Asking $50.00 buyer pa Seller: chris merola, 914-332-0128 E-mail: aleister5@aol.com (Profile) Location: North Tarrytown, NY Post Date: 6/27/2001 ===== And if it's up to us to bring some balance back Let it not be said it's courage that we lack -Gaia Consort, "Cry Freedom" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 16:10:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25336; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:07:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:07:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00c101c1000d$836b59b0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:04:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C0FFE3.9A520720" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C0FFE3.9A520720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again?Ditto what Todd sez. Remember you're = playing amongst a bunch of loopers. We tend to embrace chaos. = Intention and its opposite merge. The performance is. As we all are. You'll be fine. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Quincy=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again? Best of loops!=20 You'll be fine=20 tq=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Andre LaFosse [SMTP:altruist@altruistmusic.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:43 PM=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again?=20 OK, between Steve's mention of some certain heavy people coming to = the=20 show and DT's query, I am now officially freaking out to a very high = degree. (Certainly be good to see Mr. DT-SC again, however.) =20 So much for a low-key casual gig!=20 Add to that a last-minute visit from tendinitis and this is going to = be a very interesting gig indeed. For those in the audience, you = can=20 look forward to the added surprise visuals of my life flashing = before=20 my very eyes during the set. If I emerge out the other side intact, = I=20 look forward to hearing from other people as to what exactly I = played,=20 'cause I sure as hell am not going to remember it myself...=20 Gulp,=20 --A=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C0FFE3.9A520720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again?
Ditto what Todd sez.  Remember = you're playing=20 amongst a bunch of loopers.  We tend to embrace chaos.  = Intention and=20 its opposite merge.  The performance is.  As we all = are.
 
You'll be fine.
 
Dennis Leas
-------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Todd = Quincy=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 = 2:44=20 PM
Subject: RE: LA Loop-Fete info, = again?

Best of loops!
You'll be fine
tq

    -----Original=20 Message-----
    From:  =20 Andre LaFosse [SMTP:altruist@altruistmusic.com] =
    Sent:       Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:43 PM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Subject:        = Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again?

    OK, between Steve's mention = of some=20 certain heavy people coming to the
    show and DT's query, I am now officially freaking out to a = very=20 high
    degree.  = (Certainly be=20 good to see Mr. DT-SC again, however.) 

    So much for a low-key casual = gig!=20

    Add to that a last-minute = visit from=20 tendinitis and this is going to
    be a very interesting gig indeed.  For those in the = audience,=20 you can
    look forward = to the added=20 surprise visuals of my life flashing before
    my very eyes during the set.  If = I emerge out=20 the other side intact, I
    look=20 forward to hearing from other people as to what exactly I = played,=20
    'cause I sure as hell am not = going to=20 remember it myself...

    Gulp,

    --A=20

------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C0FFE3.9A520720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 16:17:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25866; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:15:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:15:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010628141744.007f1420@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:17:44 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> References: <3.0.5.32.20010627201911.007c6100@mail.earthlink.net> <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My friend is already working with loops and soundscapes with his system. His main interest is in creating audio environments. Not only are the speakers placed around the listener, but above and below as well. Smiles, G-Girl At 09:44 PM 6/28/01 +0200, you wrote: >At 08:19 p.m. 27/06/01 -0600, you wrote: > >hi there > >> Actually, myself as well. I know someone who's been working in >>octophonic mixes for quite some time now. I'll ask him next time I see him >>about which software he's been using. He's actually building a studio >>around the concept at this point. >> >>Smiles, >> >>Goddess > > Does anybody thinking of a connection > between the 3D audio and looping ? > > Anybody has had any experience with such > a set up ? > > I think Fripp uses four TCs for his SoundsKapes > performances, which are quadraphonic ... isn't it ? > > So then ...would it be necessary a multitrack system > to listen to 3D audio ? > >thanks in advance, >Junkie G > >Doctor_Sax_News >http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News > >"cheers from catalonia, >which language, people >and culture have been harassed >by centralists in spain through the years" > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 16:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25993; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:15:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:15:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010628141942.0085d940@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:19:42 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? In-Reply-To: <3B3B88BA.AB4BBE3F@altruistmusic.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -Just wanted to wish you and the other players a wonderful show tonight!, K? It's gonna be AWESOME!, I wish I could be there. Have a BLASWT! Smiles, G-Girl At 12:42 PM 6/28/01 -0700, you wrote: >OK, between Steve's mention of some certain heavy people coming to the >show and DT's query, I am now officially freaking out to a very high >degree. (Certainly be good to see Mr. DT-SC again, however.) > >So much for a low-key casual gig! > >Add to that a last-minute visit from tendinitis and this is going to >be a very interesting gig indeed. For those in the audience, you can >look forward to the added surprise visuals of my life flashing before >my very eyes during the set. If I emerge out the other side intact, I >look forward to hearing from other people as to what exactly I played, >'cause I sure as hell am not going to remember it myself... > >Gulp, > >--A > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 16:17:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26085; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:15:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:15:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010628160257.00a41a10@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:17:04 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: nyc event warning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_21639026==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_21639026==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed anyone wanna get loopy in the financial district? sunday july 1 8.00pm -> 1.00am 211 pearl street anti:clockwise at ...a bar i don't know the name of, but i'm sure it'll be the only thing open around there on a sunday. anyway - you have the address. and it'll be awful hard to miss, just check out this awesome, power-packed lineup: temple of bon matin koonda holaa silchara sightings magic markers monotract and maybe 25 suaves with "red breath" (a movie with recorded soundtrack by vibracathedral orchestra) the a:c part of this will be an ongoing sideshow on a separate level from the rest of the bands, so visit me between acts! ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_21639026==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
anyone wanna get loopy in the financial district?

sunday july 1   8.00pm -> 1.00am

211 pearl street

anti:clockwise
at
...a bar i don't know the name of, but i'm sure it'll be the only thing open around there on a sunday.
anyway - you have the address. and it'll be awful hard to miss, just check out this awesome, power-packed lineup:

temple of bon matin
koonda holaa
silchara
sightings
magic markers
monotract
and maybe 25 suaves
with "red breath" (a movie with recorded soundtrack by vibracathedral orchestra)

the a:c part of this will be an ongoing sideshow on a separate level from the rest of the bands, so visit me between acts!

++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--=====================_21639026==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 16:20:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26729; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:18:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:18:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00c901c1000f$21b36940$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010628215338.00a36100@mail.dragonet.es> Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:15:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is an interesting thread. But I'm not sure what you mean by 3D sound. Is this recreating an immersive, surround sound field via 2 speakers? Like many of the computer multi-media games? Or do you mean using multiple (> 2) speakers? Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 16:29:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA27220; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:27:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:27:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:22:26 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 9:44 PM +0200 6/28/01, Junkie G wrote: > Does anybody thinking of a connection > between the 3D audio and looping ? > > Anybody has had any experience with such > a set up ? A lot of early works using tape delay systems also used multiple amps and speakers. Pauline Oliveros on others at the San Francisco Tape Music Center in the 1960s did a lot of pieces that way. It made particular sense for those low-buged guerrila electronic days when it was probably more common to have tape decks with built-in speakers than professional PA systems with decent mixers. We used to do performances in the mid-70s with surround quad and dual-deck 4-track tape delays. Playback from the first deck would go into the front speakers and playback from the second deck would go to the rears, so we had both short and long delays. I did a lot of performances in the '80s using surround quad and multiple digital effects. The most fun was the Diamanda Galas gigs, where she used four microphones, each routed to a different speaker and to a different effect, and I would play freely with the routing of the effects outputs. I'd even route one effect to another, sometimes building up complex feedback networks on the fly. I did one theater piece with a multichannel system loaned by Yamaha. I had three DMP7 automated mixers, a TC2290, and an H3000, with multiple microphones hanging throughout the space (a huge warehouse that was part of the Santa Monica Museum) and (as I recall) an 8 channel speaker system. The mics picked up the actors voices and I'd loop and otherwise mangle them and circulate the results throughout the space. I did some similar things in San Francisco on a couple of big productions with a group called New Music Theatre. It was a similar setup (also with Yamaha support - thanks, Joel!) and also involved actors and singers. I haven't done much of this recently, but I've just acquired eight small speakers to do surround in my studio and this will probably lead to more live multichannel work. An advantage to using multichannel sound systems with looping is that different sound layers can be articulated spatially,thus avoiding muddy textures. If you set up a system which keeps the dry signal and processed or looped signals unmixed you can place each "voice" where you want it. This can be done with relatively modest equipment, since having more speakers allows you to keep the individual levels down. You can get by with smaller (and cheaper) individual components. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 17:07:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30127; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:02:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:02:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:06:19 -0700 Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? Message-ID: <20010628.140621.216.39.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,6-11,13-35 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com andre, don't sweat it man. i'm certainly not looking at this as a 'gig'. to me it's more of a co-op, friends getting together to share music. heck, we're not even really charging admission, the $5 is to help defray steve and ric's costs. i'm really looking forward to tonight to just hang with you folks. see you soon! tony On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:42:51 -0700 Andre LaFosse writes: > OK, between Steve's mention of some certain heavy people coming to > the > show and DT's query, I am now officially freaking out to a very high > degree. (Certainly be good to see Mr. DT-SC again, however.) > > So much for a low-key casual gig! > > Add to that a last-minute visit from tendinitis and this is going to > be a very interesting gig indeed. For those in the audience, you > can > look forward to the added surprise visuals of my life flashing > before > my very eyes during the set. If I emerge out the other side intact, > I > look forward to hearing from other people as to what exactly I > played, > 'cause I sure as hell am not going to remember it myself... > > Gulp, > > --A > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 17:31:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31013; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:29:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:29:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:27:44 EDT Subject: Re: nyc event warning To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <10e.1cd71c5.286cfb51@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com WOW & DOH! that "temple of bon matin" thing sure does get around don't it? & they sure are loud! Koonda Hola is incredible as we just played in Boston with them. The other bands all promise to be cool too. and a bigger thanks to you A/C cuz I didnt know for sure where our own gig was on sunday... I'm meeting up with the rest of the band in Providence RI on Saturday as AKASH is playing a show at something akain to Plato's Retreat in Philly This Friday. & I was just about to call to find Ed Wilcox ( the leader-founder, Art Blakey-like-mastermind of Bon Matin ) to see if he had found out the specs on this gig and then all of a sudden 'dere' it it is in your post :) ( a true spinal tap-like- moment fer sure ) Bu I will look for you A/C and & other LD folk who are local to NYC. & I also owe someone on this list an AKASH CD which i have been so lame in remebering to send. If you are out there ( i think u are from brooklyn )and u can be in NYC at the address A/C mentioned, I will have that AKASH CD for you :) But very glad to know someone from our list will be on hand. Also ck out a bon matin tune here (its the only one i can locate that is on the web ): not very loopy, but still very loud and noise laden. http://www.radonstudio.com/MP3/templebreedlove.mp3 (* im the one making lots of noise on dah geetar on this very very rough and loud cut dedicated to racecar driver craig breedlove who passed away a while back ) & here is another lil written blurb on temple of bon matin that is pretty accurate for the most part with a discography. http://www.scaruffi.com/vol5/temple.html & again, hope to see all y'all who can make it on Sunday! John Price/AKASH/Temple Of Bon Matin "remember to always kill youe expectations" www.akashmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 17:47:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31695; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:44:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:44:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-254.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.254] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010628234931.00a35600@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:49:31 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system In-Reply-To: <00c901c1000f$21b36940$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20010628215338.00a36100@mail.dragonet.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 03:15 p.m. 28/06/01 -0500, you wrote: hi dennis, richard & all >This is an interesting thread. > >But I'm not sure what you mean by 3D sound. Is this recreating an >immersive, surround sound field via 2 speakers? Like many of the computer >multi-media games? Or do you mean using multiple (> 2) speakers? i think this conceptual matter is not yet clear for me ... what we understand by 3D Audio ? i think i'm interested in both terms Dennis have mentioned. the *virtual* one for using it in my stereo/dual/binaural recordings as a tool for achieving good mixes and the *real* for the live situation. anyway, what it's the minimum required to place a sound in the 3D axis, in terms of different focuses ? and which set ups gave you better results? long life LD ! Junkie G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 17:52:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32106; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:49:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:49:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00e301c1001b$c7919b50$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:46:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <1-wwAB.A.h0H.BZ6O7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Cool stuff, Richard! Inspiring to hear about it! A pan control seems to be a problem in general for immersive sound set-ups. I suppose there's probably a better word than "panning" since we mean placement in 3-space. Maybe a joystick with a pot on the stick's top. Moving the stick from side to side and forward to back places the sound in 2-space; twisting the stick (or rather the pot on top of the stick) adjusts the "altitude" of the sound. For a live performance, I've thought about a more visually appealing panning interface -- The performer stands (or sits) in a space analogous to the house. He or she picks-up a token of some sort (we'll call it a "control-egg" for our discussion). The egg has one or two buttons on it and a link (probably wireless) to a control processor. The performer also selects a particular channel of sound to control. When one button on the egg is pressed, the 3-space location of the selected sound follows the location of the egg. For example, as the performer moves the egg in a circle, the sound pans around the room. Releasing the button "freezes" the sound at that location. This controller is similar to a Buchla Lightning, but with an added dimension of control. Great fun could be had (I suspect) by building an "industrial strength" control egg and tossing it to the audience. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 18:14:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01327; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:10:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:10:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008f01c1001e$d03c0da0$291028d5@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es><95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system & stuff Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:07:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <0HSVxB.A.LU.rs6O7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com How about if you have, say a 4 second loop it takes 4 seconds to pan through 360 degrees? Sounds interesting, you could have another loop panning in the opposite direction. Dennis Leas has done some interesting stuff in this area I believe. Something about clapping his hands and rotating the whole soundscape - cool! You've got me thinking now - always a dangerous thing : ) I'm playing again on Friday and Saturday with some Austrian band (in Wales) on the strength of Wednesday's gig - looking forward to it immensely. The DAT crapped out on me last night though, (as well as a power cut 1/2 way through) but I'm not avoiding posting a recording - honest!! Gareth > > Does anybody thinking of a connection > between the 3D audio and looping ? > > Anybody has had any experience with such > a set up ? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 18:14:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01328; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:10:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:10:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:11:52 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010628234931.00a35600@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <3.0.6.32.20010628215338.00a36100@mail.dragonet.es> <3.0.6.32.20010628234931.00a35600@mail.dragonet.es> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:49 PM +0200 6/28/01, Junkie G wrote: > i think this conceptual matter is > not yet clear for me ... > what we understand by 3D Audio ? "3D audio" or "3D sound" are probably bad terms because they are used by different people to mean different things. If we use a visual analogy, 3D sound should probably mean sound in three dimensions as represented by an XYZ coordinate system. That would mean that binaural headphone sound or sound coming from a stereo pair of loudspeakers would be one-dimensional sound, and a standard 5.1 planar setup would be two-dimensional sound. Only if we add overhead speakers would we truly have three-dimensional sound. Of course the situation is confounded when we add artificial reverberation or related processing to the signal, because this is an attempt to simulate spatial depth. However, even with very good psychoacoustic processing it is only a simulation of two-dimensional sound using a one-dimensional delivery system (I have yet to hear a convincing illusion of height from a binaural or even a surround system). Therefore I think it's better to talk about "multichannel surround sound," for the sake of clarity. Even then there are many different approaches. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 18:31:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02209; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:26:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:26:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:27:56 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system In-reply-to: <00e301c1001b$c7919b50$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> <00e301c1001b$c7919b50$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 4:46 PM -0500 6/28/01, Dennis Leas wrote: >I suppose there's probably a better word than "panning" since we mean >placement in 3-space. "Pan" is short for "panorama," and this always makes me think in planar terms. I do use the terms "3D panning" or "spatial panning" without confusion. >Maybe a joystick with a pot on the stick's top. Moving the stick >from side to side and forward to back places the sound in 2-space; >twisting the stick (or rather the pot on top of the stick) adjusts >the "altitude" of the sound. That works - sort of. The problem with twisting to represent elevation is that it's a direct relationship. I've seen a "spaceball" used by 3D animators - pull or push the ball in its cradle to go up or down. >For a live performance, I've thought about a more visually appealing panning >interface -- The performer stands (or sits) in a space analogous to the >house. He or she picks-up a token of some sort (we'll call it a >"control-egg" for our discussion). The egg has one or two buttons on it and >a link (probably wireless) to a control processor. Sounds like a Polhemus Isotrak or Will Bauer's GAMS system (now sold as the Martin Lighting Director) -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 18:31:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02210; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:26:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:26:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:27:26 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system & stuff In-reply-to: <008f01c1001e$d03c0da0$291028d5@dolly> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> <008f01c1001e$d03c0da0$291028d5@dolly> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:07 PM +0100 6/28/01, whiteoakstudios wrote: >Something about clapping his hands and rotating the whole soundscape - cool! In the Roger Reynolds piece "Watershed" for solo percussionist the performer interacts with a six-channel spatialization system by striking certain instruments that serve as triggers for a computer sound controller. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 18:55:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02974; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:42:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:42:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.112.22] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re:3D Audio - soundblaster exploiting Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:40:26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2001 22:40:27.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[53B1A150:01C10023] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

HuH ? Get a Fortissimo, and call it a day.

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From: "Luigi Meloni"
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Subject: Re:3D Audio - soundblaster exploiting
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:07:35 +0200
What I really wonder is - The soundblaster live (1024, platinum, 5.1, oem...) is one of the more diffused soundcards around - is it possible that no plug-ins programmer has tried to create a plug-in that uses its dsp? it is a powerful - not used chip- it is used less (way less) that on the Emu APS, so a great part of its power lies there unused in our PC. And this could even be useful to create 3d plug-ins for that card, as it has two stereo outs (not counting the spdif). The only audio software that tries to exploit the power of a soundblaster live (at least the only one I heard about during the C.I.M. - Colloquium Of Musical Informatics which was held in L'Aquila (Italy) in the last summer) is the C-Sound, but it isn't that easy to use, and not every musician wants to be a programmer, but under the windows platform I couldn't find anything.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 19:02:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03522; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:58:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:58:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009601c10025$31c887a0$90456f40@oemcomputer> From: "petr" To: Subject: cgcgcf or dgdgbd tuning strings gauges Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:53:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDRemoteIP: 64.111.69.144 X-Return-Path: petr@tryi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: petr@tryi.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anyone can give me some advice as to what string gauges I might use for CGCGCF or DGDGBD tuning? Thanks, petr From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 19:02:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03741; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:59:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:59:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <5f.1727859a.286d106a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:57:46 EDT Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_5f.1727859a.286d106a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_5f.1727859a.286d106a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/28/01 5:02:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tony-moore@juno.com writes: > i'm really looking forward to tonight to just hang with > you folks. > im going to cry!.....such fun!.....enjoy.....:)m --part1_5f.1727859a.286d106a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/28/01 5:02:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tony-moore@juno.com writes:


i'm really looking forward to tonight to just hang with
you folks.


im going to cry!.....such fun!.....enjoy.....:)m --part1_5f.1727859a.286d106a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 19:02:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04850; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:00:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:00:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <59.c553c94.286d10d1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:59:29 EDT Subject: Re: nyc event warning To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_59.c553c94.286d10d1_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_59.c553c94.286d10d1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/28/01 5:28:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AKASHMUSIC@aol.com writes: > & I also owe someone on this list an AKASH CD > which i have been so lame in remebering to send. > it was me!.....:)m --part1_59.c553c94.286d10d1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/28/01 5:28:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
AKASHMUSIC@aol.com writes:


& I also owe someone on this list an AKASH CD
which i have been so lame in remebering to send.


it was me!.....:)m --part1_59.c553c94.286d10d1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 19:14:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05519; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:10:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:10:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <29.16ec0cb9.286d1292@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:06:58 EDT Subject: la loop fest To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_29.16ec0cb9.286d1292_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_29.16ec0cb9.286d1292_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit someone should have a computer (e-mail) there so we could all ask questions and get instant feedback.....id do it but im in pittsburgh.....:)m --part1_29.16ec0cb9.286d1292_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit someone should have a computer (e-mail) there so we could all ask questions
and get instant feedback.....id do it but im in pittsburgh.....:)m --part1_29.16ec0cb9.286d1292_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 19:20:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05876; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:16:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:16:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003501c10028$49adbfe0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <00c101c1000d$836b59b0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 00:15:52 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C10030.A81A2340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C10030.A81A2340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again?Yez, yez, yez, Dennis, but even chaos has = its own rhythm. And many of us embrace that too. I'm sure the event = will go into the wee hours. Sigh. From: Dennis Leas=20 Ditto what Todd sez. Remember you're playing amongst a bunch of = loopers. We tend to embrace chaos. Intention and its opposite merge. = The performance is. As we all are. You'll be fine. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Quincy=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again? Best of loops!=20 You'll be fine=20 tq=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Andre LaFosse [SMTP:altruist@altruistmusic.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:43 PM=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again?=20 OK, between Steve's mention of some certain heavy people coming to = the=20 show and DT's query, I am now officially freaking out to a very high = degree. (Certainly be good to see Mr. DT-SC again, however.) =20 So much for a low-key casual gig!=20 Add to that a last-minute visit from tendinitis and this is going to = be a very interesting gig indeed. For those in the audience, you = can=20 look forward to the added surprise visuals of my life flashing = before=20 my very eyes during the set. If I emerge out the other side intact, = I=20 look forward to hearing from other people as to what exactly I = played,=20 'cause I sure as hell am not going to remember it myself...=20 Gulp,=20 --A=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C10030.A81A2340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again?
Yez, yez, yez, Dennis, but even chaos has its = own=20 rhythm.  And many of us embrace that too.  I'm sure the event = will go=20 into the wee hours.  Sigh.
 
From: Dennis Leas =
Ditto what Todd sez.  Remember = you're playing=20 amongst a bunch of loopers.  We tend to embrace chaos.  = Intention and=20 its opposite merge.  The performance is.  As we all = are.
 
You'll be fine.
 
Dennis Leas
-------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Todd = Quincy=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 = 2:44=20 PM
Subject: RE: LA Loop-Fete info, = again?

Best of loops!
You'll be fine
tq

    -----Original=20 Message-----
    From:  =20 Andre LaFosse [SMTP:altruist@altruistmusic.com] =
    Sent:       Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:43 PM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Subject:        = Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again?

    OK, between Steve's mention = of some=20 certain heavy people coming to the
    show and DT's query, I am now officially freaking out to a = very=20 high
    degree.  = (Certainly be=20 good to see Mr. DT-SC again, however.) 

    So much for a low-key casual = gig!=20

    Add to that a last-minute = visit from=20 tendinitis and this is going to
    be a very interesting gig indeed.  For those in the = audience,=20 you can
    look forward = to the added=20 surprise visuals of my life flashing before
    my very eyes during the set.  If = I emerge out=20 the other side intact, I
    look=20 forward to hearing from other people as to what exactly I = played,=20
    'cause I sure as hell am not = going to=20 remember it myself...

    Gulp,

    --A=20

------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C10030.A81A2340-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 19:25:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06119; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:22:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:22:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3BBBBC.B2C3ED3@altruistmusic.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:20:28 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? References: <20010628.140621.216.39.tony-moore@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks to all for the kind words and good wishes. As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil. I'm a bit bemused at how much hype the event seems to be getting... but hey! Enthusiasm is never a bad thing. A live computer feed/email chat might not be the most exciting thing... I can see it now: "What's happening right now?" "Somebody's playing something into a looper." "How 'bout now?" "It's looping." And so forth. But I'm sure some interesting times will be had. Rawk you like a hurricane, --A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 19:47:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06945; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:44:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:44:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010628163912.007cc100@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:39:12 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system In-Reply-To: <00e301c1001b$c7919b50$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Woohoo!, That sounds like a blast! What a great idea! I'd love one! wish I could reply more, but am going out of town for a couple of days and am on my way out as we speak. Talk with all of you soon... Smiles, G-Girl At 04:46 PM 6/28/01 -0500, you wrote: >Cool stuff, Richard! Inspiring to hear about it! > >A pan control seems to be a problem in general for immersive sound set-ups. >I suppose there's probably a better word than "panning" since we mean >placement in 3-space. Maybe a joystick with a pot on the stick's top. >Moving the stick from side to side and forward to back places the sound in >2-space; twisting the stick (or rather the pot on top of the stick) adjusts >the "altitude" of the sound. > >For a live performance, I've thought about a more visually appealing panning >interface -- The performer stands (or sits) in a space analogous to the >house. He or she picks-up a token of some sort (we'll call it a >"control-egg" for our discussion). The egg has one or two buttons on it and >a link (probably wireless) to a control processor. The performer also >selects a particular channel of sound to control. When one button on the >egg is pressed, the 3-space location of the selected sound follows the >location of the egg. For example, as the performer moves the egg in a >circle, the sound pans around the room. Releasing the button "freezes" the >sound at that location. This controller is similar to a Buchla Lightning, >but with an added dimension of control. > >Great fun could be had (I suspect) by building an "industrial strength" >control egg and tossing it to the audience. > >Dennis Leas >------------------- >dennis@mdbs.com > > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 19:58:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07287; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:55:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:55:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Kevin Mulvihill" To: Subject: RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again? Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:54:39 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi all, been away for a long time but now i'm back... i'm coming to the loop fest tonite. put me on the list if there is one... thanks. kevin mulvihill > la loop feste I > thursday, june 28, 2001 > music begins about 8pm or so, but feel free to come and hang about 7pm > featuring steve lawson, ric hordinski, and andre lafosse > 359 east magnolia st (between san fernando and glenoaks) > suite e (above lily's cafe, enter from rear) > burbank, ca 91501 > 818-848-2570 lab/studio phone > 818-563-6514 tony's home phone > tony-moore@juno.com > *space is limited to 20-25 folks > *feel free to bring refreshments From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 21:16:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA11275; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:13:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:13:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:12:56 EDT Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id VAA11230 Resent-Message-ID: <6csphB.A.xvC.cY9O7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com andré, >OK, between Steve's mention of some certain heavy people coming to the >show and DT's query, ach, nay: i can't be there. *-( dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 21:17:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA11220; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:12:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:12:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <7d.1721bc93.286d2fc8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:11:36 EDT Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <-ChvuB.A.KvC.0X9O7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com aw, shucks: thought it might be *next* week..... so it goes. thanks for the info. best, dt / s-c >la loop feste I >thursday, june 28, 2001 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 21:22:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA11874; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:19:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:19:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.16fdc695.286d317c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:18:52 EDT Subject: Re: OT steinberger guitar question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com m.shellard@ntlworld.com writes: >It is a master tuner on the transtrem, fer sure; on the *other* steinie bridges, me no know..... >(I think adjusts the spring tension no, not spring tension..... >for overall tuning, >it's used to align the bridge with the locking mechanism so you can >lock/unlock without affecting the tuning. TT=yup. >It also means you can lock the >bridge, change the tuning (say drop D) then unlock the bridge and adjust >using the master tune so you can use the trem. TT=yup! best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 21:31:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12278; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:27:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:27:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: LA Loop Feet (was: RE: LA Loop-Fete info, again?) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:27:31 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7d.1721bc93.286d2fc8@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, if you're gonna show up, maybe we can do it again next week! (sound of rapid footsteps) Gary -----Original Message----- From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 6:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LA Loop-Fete info, again? aw, shucks: thought it might be *next* week..... so it goes. thanks for the info. best, dt / s-c >la loop feste I >thursday, june 28, 2001 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 28 23:55:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA28657; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:52:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:52:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 04:53:25 +0100 Subject: Re: OT steinberger guitar question From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7a.16fdc695.286d317c@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4nSelD.A.d_G.0t_O7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The master tune thing seems to work the same on both, I've only played a TT once and don't really remember the mechanism too well but back in the day I owned a Hohner Steiny licensed guitar with, I guess, the same trem as the Spirit(?) This had the master tune knob, it's a great feature, I wish all trems had something similar. Martin Shellard > From: Hedewa7@aol.com >> It is a master tuner > on the transtrem, fer sure; > on the *other* steinie bridges, me no know..... > >> (I think adjusts the spring tension > no, not spring tension..... > >> for overall tuning, >> it's used to align the bridge with the locking mechanism so you can >> lock/unlock without affecting the tuning. > TT=yup. > >> It also means you can lock the >> bridge, change the tuning (say drop D) then unlock the bridge and adjust >> using the master tune so you can use the trem. > TT=yup! > > best, > dt / s-c > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 01:31:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA32408; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:26:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:26:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3CBA17.2990F943@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:25:43 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT steinberger Thanks References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, yup it is a master tuner/spring tension adjust. It's control was fine and I just didn't notice a big change while adjusting it. Also, I'm thinking of moving the bridge pickup so that I can mount my GK-2a. (it's a hair short of making it) Am I crazy? It's not a pure composite model, but a wood body/bolt on kneck model. If any of you have horror or success stories, I'd like to here them. Mark Martin Shellard wrote: > The master tune thing seems to work the same on both, I've only played a TT > once and don't really remember the mechanism too well but back in the day I > owned a Hohner Steiny licensed guitar with, I guess, the same trem as the > Spirit(?) > This had the master tune knob, it's a great feature, I wish all trems had > something similar. > > Martin Shellard > > > From: Hedewa7@aol.com > > >> It is a master tuner > > on the transtrem, fer sure; > > on the *other* steinie bridges, me no know..... > > > >> (I think adjusts the spring tension > > no, not spring tension..... > > > >> for overall tuning, > >> it's used to align the bridge with the locking mechanism so you can > >> lock/unlock without affecting the tuning. > > TT=yup. > > > >> It also means you can lock the > >> bridge, change the tuning (say drop D) then unlock the bridge and adjust > >> using the master tune so you can use the trem. > > TT=yup! > > > > best, > > dt / s-c > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 01:40:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00414; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:36:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:36:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: LA Loop Fest Report Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:36:22 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3B3CBA17.2990F943@zerocrossing.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com First report back from the loop thing (I have to leave early)-- Well attended, smoothly run and a pleasure to meet the folks from the list--I hope to have an opportunity to play with some of them sometime! Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 05:12:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08114; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:08:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:08:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: 3D Audio - soundblaster exploiting Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:07:07 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C100BD.ED8ACC80" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <001601c0fff4$d9981620$85b61597@m7w1f4> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C100BD.ED8ACC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi there. you can actually get a version of the APS dirvers that is fully operational on the SBLive family of cards. For more information, go to http://people.freenet.de/apslive/ or alternately http://go.to/emu10k1 I've used this driver set for a quite a while now and it is perfectly stable and gives a great range of plugins. regards, omjn -----Original Message----- From: Luigi Meloni [mailto:Luigimeloni74@libero.it] Sent: Friday, 29 June 2001 1:08 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re:3D Audio - soundblaster exploiting What I really wonder is - The soundblaster live (1024, platinum, 5.1, oem...) is one of the more diffused soundcards around - is it possible that no plug-ins programmer has tried to create a plug-in that uses its dsp? it is a powerful - not used chip- it is used less (way less) that on the Emu APS, so a great part of its power lies there unused in our PC. And this could even be useful to create 3d plug-ins for that card, as it has two stereo outs (not counting the spdif). The only audio software that tries to exploit the power of a soundblaster live (at least the only one I heard about during the C.I.M. - Colloquium Of Musical Informatics which was held in L'Aquila (Italy) in the last summer) is the C-Sound, but it isn't that easy to use, and not every musician wants to be a programmer, but under the windows platform I couldn't find anything. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C100BD.ED8ACC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi=20 there.
 
you=20 can actually get a version of the APS dirvers that is fully operational = on the=20 SBLive family of cards.  For more information, go to =
 
http://people.freenet.de/apsli= ve/
 
or=20 alternately
 
http://go.to/emu10k1
 
I've=20 used this driver set for a quite a while now and it is perfectly stable = and=20 gives a great range of plugins.
 
regards,
omjn
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Luigi Meloni=20 [mailto:Luigimeloni74@libero.it]
Sent: Friday, 29 June 2001 = 1:08=20 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:3D=20 Audio - soundblaster exploiting

What I really wonder is - The = soundblaster live=20 (1024, platinum, 5.1, oem...) is one of the more diffused soundcards = around -=20 is it possible that no plug-ins programmer has tried to create a = plug-in that=20 uses its dsp? it is a powerful - not used chip- it is used less (way = less)=20 that on the Emu APS, so a great part of its power lies there unused in = our PC.=20 And this could even be useful to create 3d plug-ins for that card, as = it has=20 two stereo outs (not counting the spdif). The only audio software that = tries=20 to exploit the power of a soundblaster live (at least the only one I = heard=20 about during the C.I.M. - Colloquium Of Musical Informatics which was = held in=20 L'Aquila (Italy) in the last summer) is the C-Sound, but it isn't that = easy to=20 use, and not every musician wants to be a programmer, but under the = windows=20 platform I couldn't find = anything.
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C100BD.ED8ACC80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 06:13:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA10012; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:08:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:08:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RMOUNEYR@bouyguestelecom.fr Message-Id: <7BCCED416990D411BE4800508BF95BE202EB6C3E@bt1sqti9.bpa.bouyguestelecom.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Octophonic sound system Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:07:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="WINDOWS-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id GAA09987 Resent-Message-ID: <46A4wB.A.ScC._NFP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>speakers placed around the listener, but above and below as well That's why i talked about using 2 joysticks. One for making the sound turn around the listener, and the other one to control the "altitude". This implies that you have a good software to mix the sound and drive an corresponding amount to each speaker, and at least 6 well distributed loudspeakers. RAF. > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Goddess [SMTP:thefates@earthlink.net] > Date: jeudi 28 juin 2001 22:18 > À: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Objet: RE: Octophonic sound system > > My friend is already working with loops and soundscapes with his system. > His main interest is in creating audio environments. Not only are the > speakers placed around the listener, but above and below as well. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 07:35:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA12156; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:32:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:32:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <4d.da2c390.286dc10e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:31:26 EDT Subject: Re: OT steinberger guitar question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com m.shellard@ntlworld.com writes: >This had the master tune knob, it's a great feature, I wish all trems had >something similar. yeah! d From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 09:18:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15641; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:15:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:15:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:14:44 -0500 Subject: Effects question From: Mike Feeney To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello; I heard a solo acoustic performance the other day by Pink Floyd's David Gilmour. In it he used a nice effect where he would strum his acoustic guitar, and the chord would resonate in a very floaty, organ-like way allowing him to noodle over the chords. What kind of pedal might allow this? Thanks! Mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 10:00:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16388; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:56:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:56:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:56:41 -0700 Subject: first la loop feste Message-ID: <20010629.065642.-179901.2.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 7-8,12-17 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just wanted to thank steve, ric, andre, and everyone who came out last night. there was some beautiful and inspiring music last night. andre did some amazing tricks with his edp. ric's playing is simply beautiful. and steve was inspring. it's so nice to see a musician so in tune with his instrument and intention, yet comfortable enough to still have fun with it. i recorded each set onto minidisc and managed to take a few digital pics. i'm leaving this morning and not returning for a little over a week. i'll post some mp3's and pics somewhere when i return. so how about we have our next event less a showcase and more a co-op? i was thinking of something similar to a 'songwriters circle', but with fellow loopers. we could all sit in a circle and jam and throw ideas at one another. wadatasay? anyway, it was great meeting all of you. take care, tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 10:05:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17629; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:02:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:02:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3C899B.AE54BE98@fullcompass.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:58:51 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: cgcgcf or dgdgbd tuning strings gauges References: <009601c10025$31c887a0$90456f40@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Six string guitar or 6 string bass? petr wrote: > > Anyone can give me some advice as to what string gauges I might use > for CGCGCF or DGDGBD tuning? > > Thanks, > petr From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 10:13:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17872; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:10:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:10:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008d01c100a4$c761da80$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> <00e301c1001b$c7919b50$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: Re: Octophonic sound system Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:07:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for the info, Richard! I did not know about Polhemus or the Martin Lighting Director. For others who may be interested: http://www.polhemus.com/ourprod.htm and http://www.martin.dk/product/product.asp?product=lightingdirector Interestingly, the Martin Lighting Director uses "Four small ultrasonic speakers, one in each corner of the stage, preferably mounted 5 to 9 m (16 and 30 ft) above stage level." Sounds like it's a sort of GPS style system using sound instead of RF. I haven't read enough to tell if it tracks altitude or just planar location. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 10:29:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18503; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:26:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:26:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3C3BE3.B0F3DC2B@pseudobuddha.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:27:18 +0100 From: Bobdog Reply-To: bobdog@pseudobuddha.com Organization: Pseudo Buddha X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: cgcgcf or dgdgbd tuning strings gauges References: <009601c10025$31c887a0$90456f40@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9UAem.A.3gE.HAJP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i use cgcgcf alot & use 10,13,17p,34,44,58 on both electric & acoustic i use dgdgbd on my dobro for slide & use 14,18,26w,38,48,58 hope this helps. what brings you to cgcgcf? i use it to simulate indian sitar/sarod tuning. bobdog petr wrote: > Anyone can give me some advice as to what string gauges I might use > for CGCGCF or DGDGBD tuning? > > Thanks, > petr From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 11:24:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20946; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:22:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:22:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002501c100af$27bf2680$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010628021047.00a38860@mail.dragonet.es> <95.c925529.286b8541@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010628214410.00a36550@mail.dragonet.es> <00e301c1001b$c7919b50$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> <008d01c100a4$c761da80$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: Roxy Music 2001 Tour Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:21:17 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I got to see these guys at Wembley thanks to the good graces of my editor who was coming through town, and I have to say the show was worth catching tickets to if you can. Why is this on-topic? Well, they begin AND end their show with loopage. And it's really GOOD loopage too. Really nice, nice lights/video, and the dancing girls were great too. :) Highly recommended. This is their last tour as announced previously. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 11:27:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21125; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:24:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:24:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3a.171cf3f2.286df773@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:23:31 EDT Subject: review of bio about LEON THEREMIN To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3a.171cf3f2.286df773_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_3a.171cf3f2.286df773_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =C2=A0 =20 thought some might be interested.....:)m =20 =20 In electronic music's history, mystery and Cold War =E2=80=94 related specul= ation=20 have shrouded the life and work of one man: Leon Theremin. Albert Glinsky's=20 biography Theremin: Ether Music and Espionage pieces together, for the first= =20 time in English, the facts about the inventor once known in his homeland as=20 =E2=80=9Cthe Russian Edison.=E2=80=9D Glinsky creates spy novel =E2=80=94 worthy suspense as he unravels the schem= es=20 Theremin and his associates used to cloak their work. The author explores a=20 number of interesting themes, including Theremin's lifelong interest in=20 reanimating the dead. All Things Theremin Lev Sergeyevich Termen was born in St. Petersburg,=20 Russia, in 1896. As a young man, he excelled in science, engineering, and=20 music. That interesting subject combination helped him =E2=80=94 while still= in his=20 early 20s =E2=80=94 to conceive the electronic instrument that would bear hi= s name. The theremin's success gave the inventor opportunities unheard of for Soviet= =20 citizens of the time. Theremin toured Europe promoting his instrument, which= =20 was as much a propaganda tool as he was. The concertizing led to a visit to=20 New York City, where Theremin remained from 1927 to 1938. The revelations=20 about Theremin's sudden departure from New York under mysterious=20 circumstances and his whereabouts for several decades are what make the book= =20 most historically important. As expected, Glinsky details the theremin's production and marketing. He als= o=20 covers Theremin's many other inventions, including an early form of=20 television, a polyphonic keyboard instrument, an aircraft altimeter,=20 electronic security devices, and the bugging technologies used by the KGB. In addition, the book documents Theremin's interaction with many important=20 personalities of the 20th century. In the Soviet Union he gave a private=20 demonstration of his =E2=80=9Cetherphone=E2=80=9D to Soviet leader Vladimir=20= Ilyich Lenin=20 (who believed it would be =E2=80=9Can ideal propaganda tool for electricity= =E2=80=9D). In=20 the musical world, Theremin worked with composers Joseph Schillinger, Nicola= s=20 Slonimsky, Edgard Var=C3=A8se, and Henry Cowell (for whom he built the=20 rhythmicon), and conductor Leopold Stokowski. Glinsky's attention to historic detail vividly displays the arbitrary manner= =20 in which millions of Soviet citizens' lives were devastated by those in=20 power. It's difficult to imagine how anyone could survive what Theremin was=20 subjected to, let alone remain productive. Yet he outlived the political=20 system that controlled =E2=80=94 often destroyed =E2=80=94 his work and kept= him a=20 second-class citizen. Glinsky portrays Theremin as a man determined to=20 fulfill his creative urges despite continual setbacks. When Theremin emerges= =20 from the shadows in Moscow in an unexpected encounter with his old friend an= d=20 theremin virtuoso Clara Rockmore, one cannot help but marvel at the melding=20 of luck, cunning, and na=C3=AFvet=C3=A9. Theremin: Ether Music and Espionage is an important book for readers=20 interested in the theremin or electronic music's history. The book is=20 exhaustively researched and engagingly written, and it includes an insightfu= l=20 forward by Robert Moog. Glinsky's exceptional portrayal of Leon Theremin is=20 more than a mere music-related biography. I recommend Theremin: Ether Music=20 and Espionage to anyone who enjoys reading about 20th-century history or=20 Soviet-American relations. =20 =20 =20 --part1_3a.171cf3f2.286df773_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =C2=A0 =20
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In electronic music's history, mystery and Cold War =E2=80=94 related sp= eculation=20
have shrouded the life and work of one man: Leon Theremin. Albert Glinsk= y's=20
biography Theremin: Ether Music and Espionage pieces together, for the f= irst=20
time in English, the facts about the inventor once known in his homeland= as=20
=E2=80=9Cthe Russian Edison.=E2=80=9D
Glinsky creates spy novel =E2=80=94 worthy suspense as he unravels the s= chemes=20
Theremin and his associates used to cloak their work. The author explore= s a=20
number of interesting themes, including Theremin's lifelong interest in=20
reanimating the dead.
All Things Theremin Lev Sergeyevich Termen was born in St. Peters= burg,=20
Russia, in 1896. As a young man, he excelled in science, engineering, an= d=20
music. That interesting subject combination helped him =E2=80=94 while s= till in his=20
early 20s =E2=80=94 to conceive the electronic instrument that would bea= r his name.
The theremin's success gave the inventor opportunities unheard of for So= viet=20
citizens of the time. Theremin toured Europe promoting his instrument, w= hich=20
was as much a propaganda tool as he was. The concertizing led to a visit= to=20
New York City, where Theremin remained from 1927 to 1938. The revelation= s=20
about Theremin's sudden departure from New York under mysterious=20
circumstances and his whereabouts for several decades are what make the=20= book=20
most historically important.
As expected, Glinsky details the theremin's production and marketing. He= also=20
covers Theremin's many other inventions, including an early form of=20
television, a polyphonic keyboard instrument, an aircraft altimeter,=20
electronic security devices, and the bugging technologies used by the KG= B.
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demonstration of his =E2=80=9Cetherphone=E2=80=9D to Soviet leader Vladi= mir Ilyich Lenin=20
(who believed it would be =E2=80=9Can ideal propaganda tool for electric= ity=E2=80=9D). In=20
the musical world, Theremin worked with composers Joseph Schillinger, Ni= colas=20
Slonimsky, Edgard Var=C3=A8se, and Henry Cowell (for whom he built the=20
rhythmicon), and conductor Leopold Stokowski.
Glinsky's attention to historic detail vividly displays the arbitrary ma= nner=20
in which millions of Soviet citizens' lives were devastated by those in=20
power. It's difficult to imagine how anyone could survive what Theremin=20= was=20
subjected to, let alone remain productive. Yet he outlived the political= =20
system that controlled =E2=80=94 often destroyed =E2=80=94 his work and=20= kept him a=20
second-class citizen. Glinsky portrays Theremin as a man determined to=20
fulfill his creative urges despite continual setbacks. When Theremin eme= rges=20
from the shadows in Moscow in an unexpected encounter with his old frien= d and=20
theremin virtuoso Clara Rockmore, one cannot help but marvel at the meld= ing=20
of luck, cunning, and na=C3=AFvet=C3=A9.
Theremin: Ether Music and Espionage is an important book for readers=20
interested in the theremin or electronic music's history. The book is=20
exhaustively researched and engagingly written, and it includes an insig= htful=20
forward by Robert Moog. Glinsky's exceptional portrayal of Leon Theremin= is=20
more than a mere music-related biography. I recommend Theremin: Ether Mu= sic=20
and Espionage to anyone who enjoys reading about 20th-century history or= =20
Soviet-American relations.
=20
=20
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--part1_3a.171cf3f2.286df773_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 12:59:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24050; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:56:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:56:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB3E0@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: first la loop feste Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:54:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C100BC.298358D0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C100BC.298358D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" well, lamely, i was not able to go. sorry to all concerned. any other "reviews"? stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C100BC.298358D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: first la loop feste

well, lamely, i was not able to go.

sorry to all concerned. any other "reviews"?

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C100BC.298358D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 13:14:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25516; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:09:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:09:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: first la loop feste Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:09:05 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010629.065642.-179901.2.tony-moore@juno.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, thanks should be heaped on Tony for contributing his time, resources, and even buying new JBL powered speakers for the occasion. We certainly couldn't have had it at my apartment! The whole thing was only possible because of Tony Moore, so props are in order-- And yes, it's obvious that Andre has spent a lot of time with his EDP-- Nobody seemed to using quantize with their EDP, and Andre didn't even use an expression pedal. He kept doing these enormous string bends on his Steinberger (into a Boogie). Steve had his Ashdown bass amp, but was using two DL-4 instead of one since he didn't have his Jamman--boy, is his tone to die for. Ric did a great job but had to struggle with using borrowed equipment. I saw at least one famous face there. The big lesson I learned last night is to try to stay in your comfort zone--wish I had more time to practice. I want a Repeater but nobody last night had one and there was plenty of sound 8^) Gary -----Original Message----- From: Tony Moore [mailto:tony-moore@juno.com] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 6:57 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: first la loop feste just wanted to thank steve, ric, andre, and everyone who came out last night. there was some beautiful and inspiring music last night. andre did some amazing tricks with his edp. ric's playing is simply beautiful. and steve was inspring. it's so nice to see a musician so in tune with his instrument and intention, yet comfortable enough to still have fun with it. i recorded each set onto minidisc and managed to take a few digital pics. i'm leaving this morning and not returning for a little over a week. i'll post some mp3's and pics somewhere when i return. so how about we have our next event less a showcase and more a co-op? i was thinking of something similar to a 'songwriters circle', but with fellow loopers. we could all sit in a circle and jam and throw ideas at one another. wadatasay? anyway, it was great meeting all of you. take care, tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 13:18:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25879; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:15:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:15:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.75] Reply-To: "Greg S" From: "Greg S" To: References: <009601c10025$31c887a0$90456f40@oemcomputer> <3B3C899B.AE54BE98@fullcompass.com> Subject: Re: cgcgcf or dgdgbd tuning strings gauges Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:14:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2001 17:14:31.0049 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5C96F90:01C100BE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Here's some resources I've found helpful for various tunings: http://www.daddario.com/pdffolder/Tension_chart.pdf http://www.transbay.net/~dog/StringTensionApplet.html and your basic net search should reveal much, much more... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Schaefer" To: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: Re: cgcgcf or dgdgbd tuning strings gauges > Six string guitar or 6 string bass? > > petr wrote: > > > > Anyone can give me some advice as to what string gauges I might use > > for CGCGCF or DGDGBD tuning? > > > > Thanks, > > petr > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 13:34:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26411; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:31:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:31:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 18:32:15 +0100 Subject: Re: OT steinberger Thanks From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3B3CBA17.2990F943@zerocrossing.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If it almost fits you can try what I did to one of my guitars, it doesn't require any permanant mods (well none that aren't reversible). Remove the bridge pickup and mounting ring from the guitar. Remove the pickup from the mounting ring. Use a fret saw to remove the lowest part of the ring. Remount the pickup in the ring onto the guitar. You should now be able to fit a GK into the gap between the now exposed part of the pickup and the bridge. I used screw on this guitar but the sticky tape on the spacers or double sided tape will work fine and won't harm the finish (I use this method on my PRS and the last time I removed the pickup there was no sign of it being there.) Martin Shellard > From: Mark > > Hey, > > yup it is a master tuner/spring tension adjust. It's control was fine and I > just didn't notice a big change while adjusting it. > > Also, I'm thinking of moving the bridge pickup so that I can mount my GK-2a. > (it's a hair short of making it) Am I crazy? It's not a pure composite > model, > but a wood body/bolt on kneck model. If any of you have horror or success > stories, I'd like to here them. > > Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 13:35:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26408; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:31:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:31:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 18:32:20 +0100 Subject: I want an EDP right? From: Martin Shellard To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Seriously thinking about getting a couple of "tester" EDPs from Trace Elliot. I have a Line 6 and Vortex but I still need an EDP right? Thanks Martin Shellard ps posts along the lines of "hell yeah mine kicks ass!" or "if you loop you need EDP like a mammal needs air" would be appropriate : ) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 13:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27155; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:48:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:48:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ac01c100c4$1cabdda0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: Subject: Re: I want an EDP right? Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:50:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, you still need an EDP. Om ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Shellard" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: I want an EDP right? > Seriously thinking about getting a couple of "tester" EDPs from Trace > Elliot. > > I have a Line 6 and Vortex but I still need an EDP right? > > Thanks > Martin Shellard > > ps > posts along the lines of "hell yeah mine kicks ass!" or "if you loop you > need EDP like a mammal needs air" would be appropriate : ) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 13:53:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27262; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:50:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:50:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:49:33 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: RE: first la loop feste Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA27233 Resent-Message-ID: <3LoomB.A.xpG.2-LP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah... kudos to Tony! It sounds like this may be the beginnings of a semi-regular sorta thing! I'm a Santa Cruz goon, so I wasn't there, but it's great knowing we're all getting together and building community! Hope it was fun and not stressful for the players... Feeling any better Andre? I'll bet it was a blast... Respect, -Miko >>> healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net 06/29/01 10:09AM >>> Hey, thanks should be heaped on Tony for contributing his time, resources, and even buying new JBL powered speakers for the occasion. We certainly couldn't have had it at my apartment! The whole thing was only possible because of Tony Moore, so props are in order-- And yes, it's obvious that Andre has spent a lot of time with his EDP-- Nobody seemed to using quantize with their EDP, and Andre didn't even use an expression pedal. He kept doing these enormous string bends on his Steinberger (into a Boogie). Steve had his Ashdown bass amp, but was using two DL-4 instead of one since he didn't have his Jamman--boy, is his tone to die for. Ric did a great job but had to struggle with using borrowed equipment. I saw at least one famous face there. The big lesson I learned last night is to try to stay in your comfort zone--wish I had more time to practice. I want a Repeater but nobody last night had one and there was plenty of sound 8^) Gary -----Original Message----- From: Tony Moore [mailto:tony-moore@juno.com] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 6:57 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: first la loop feste just wanted to thank steve, ric, andre, and everyone who came out last night. there was some beautiful and inspiring music last night. andre did some amazing tricks with his edp. ric's playing is simply beautiful. and steve was inspring. it's so nice to see a musician so in tune with his instrument and intention, yet comfortable enough to still have fun with it. i recorded each set onto minidisc and managed to take a few digital pics. i'm leaving this morning and not returning for a little over a week. i'll post some mp3's and pics somewhere when i return. so how about we have our next event less a showcase and more a co-op? i was thinking of something similar to a 'songwriters circle', but with fellow loopers. we could all sit in a circle and jam and throw ideas at one another. wadatasay? anyway, it was great meeting all of you. take care, tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:00:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27637; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:57:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:57:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:55:52 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , , Subject: Re: I want an EDP right? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA27577 Resent-Message-ID: <_Q10hB.A.ovG.AFMP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Seriously thinking about getting a couple of "tester" EDPs from Trace Elliot. I have a Line 6 and Vortex but I still need an EDP right? Thanks - Martin Shellard Seriously back at ya! The EDP does things you just can't accomplish with the DL4 or JamMan... Vortex is an entirely different and attractive beast in it's own right... GET A COUPLE!? If you can, you should! -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:00:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27638; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:57:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:57:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:55:52 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , , Subject: Re: I want an EDP right? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA27576 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Seriously thinking about getting a couple of "tester" EDPs from Trace Elliot. I have a Line 6 and Vortex but I still need an EDP right? Thanks - Martin Shellard Seriously back at ya! The EDP does things you just can't accomplish with the DL4 or JamMan... Vortex is an entirely different and attractive beast in it's own right... GET A COUPLE!? If you can, you should! -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:02:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28917; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:59:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:59:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200106291757.KAA24508@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:06:14 -0700 Subject: Re: I want an EDP right? From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No, you need the Againinator, it not only kicks ass but will kiss it as well. It should start shipping around last August. :-) Seriously, the Line 6 (you mean the delay modeler, right?) is a nice toy to play with while waiting for your EDP to arrive. Get an EDP (two if you need stereo) and you will not be sorry. What is a "tester" EDP? Did I miss that thread? -Allan ---------- >From: Martin Shellard >To: Loopers Delight >Subject: I want an EDP right? >Date: Fri, Jun 29, 2001, 10:32 AM > > Seriously thinking about getting a couple of "tester" EDPs from Trace > Elliot. > > I have a Line 6 and Vortex but I still need an EDP right? > > Thanks > Martin Shellard > > ps > posts along the lines of "hell yeah mine kicks ass!" or "if you loop you > need EDP like a mammal needs air" would be appropriate : ) > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:05:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29273; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:02:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:02:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00c601c100c6$1ae4a040$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: Subject: Re: first la loop feste Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:05:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I was unable to attend - had to support my friend at his own gig- but I am interested in helping to organize the next fest- definitely this summer- I live on the West side of L.A.- anyone else who would be interested in collaborating in the organization let me know- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:06:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29276; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:02:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:02:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.112.6] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: To All My Software Based Loopy Brothers ! Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 18:01:47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2001 18:01:47.0747 (UTC) FILETIME=[90973330:01C100C5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ok, it's me again, with a very OT or OnT (what's the difference ?). I have just gotten a hold of a copy of the two CD set of Cakewalk's SONAR 1.0...(my buddy at Guitar Center, let me check out the store's copy, before I decided to shell out the bucks to buy it.... we got it like that). Well, I was wondering, before I install this Puppy, has anyone out there used this app for anything ? I know  I can play with it all I want, but I was wondering what the masses have to say about this app. Has anyone did anything with it, etc. I am an ACID man (no, not the drug !), the app. And I have had no problems using that app (now that I have 3.0... I am MIDI crazy, but I digress), so I need your help. I know the app is somewhat new (I missed the workshop at my local Guitar Center, that's why my buddy there let me check out the store's copy... they know I am a "Software-Head".). Yet, I digress again.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:07:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29467; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:05:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:05:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Steve Lawson" To: Subject: RE: first la loop feste Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:12:17 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <_iejPD.A.vLH.UNMP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Huge thanks to Tony for putting the gig on (what a cool space - very inspiring), and the Andre and Ric for playing some fabulous music - I've got serious EDP lust at the moment. That undo thing is just unbelieveable. And Ric's guitar tone!!! truly wonderful. All in a all, an inspiring and creative night, and I am deeply grateful to have been able to play for y'all... Now I'm looking forward to the Manring/Walker/Lawson dates next week! Any of you LA guys making the trip to Big Sur next Saturday? That show is going to be outstanding, I can feel it already! :o) Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:07:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29529; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:05:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:05:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:05:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200106291805.OAA09946@www.editev.com> X-Authentication-Warning: www.editev.com: httpd set sender to tom@swirly.com using -f From: "Tom Ritchford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: tom@swirly.com Subject: last day for Repeater in June! X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.24 X-IPAddress: 66.9.67.98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <2BGd0.A.JMH.hNMP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So, today's the last business day in June and no Repeater. Not trying to rush you, I hasten to add... I am feeling very bad for the Repeater people and particularly for the software guys. They must be REALLY under the gun... /t -- perhaps man is water's way of getting from one place to another? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:11:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29937; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:08:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:08:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00c901c100c6$160167c0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: I want an EDP right? Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:05:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes! Get two! IMHO: The EDP is an incredibly well designed looper. And it will *still* be so after the Repeater becomes available. Which I'm hoping will be another incredibly well designed looper. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:20:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30255; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:16:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:16:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010629110945.00b49c20@mail.mindspring.com> X-Files: The truth is out there. Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:15:14 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Subject: Manring/Walker/Lawson (was RE: first la loop feste) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick, what are the details on the SF bay area events? At 11:12 AM 6/29/2001 -0700, Steve wrote: >Now I'm looking forward to the >Manring/Walker/Lawson dates next week! Any of you LA guys making the trip to >Big Sur next Saturday? That show is going to be outstanding, I can feel it From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 14:38:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30784; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:35:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:35:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009d01c100c9$dfcf0f00$ef456f40@oemcomputer> From: "petr" To: Subject: Re: cgcgcf or dgdgbd tuning strings gauges Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:32:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDRemoteIP: 64.111.69.175 X-Return-Path: petr@tryi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: petr@tryi.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I meant guitar. I want to get a cheapo guitar for experiments (like making it fretless) and use some simple and interesting tunings. Thanks for your advices. petr _________________________________________ Petr Dolák music * poetry * guitar looping * commodeon * percussion web site: www.geocities.com/pepetr music samples: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/229/petr_dolak_samojsky.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 15:04:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32540; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:01:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:01:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:02:08 +0100 Subject: Re: I want an EDP right? From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200106291757.KAA24508@proxy4.ba.best.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've heard that the much anticipated Againinator, when it's released, will rule all in it's path and for a competitive price. Comes in "cool" DJ stylin' too! btw I heard it was for sure shipping from last June ; ) Yes I have the DL-4 which is cool for the delay stuff as well as the looper and the pedal control is great. Thanks for the replies, jeez I was surprised at the response, I guess people really like these EDP thingy's then? : ) I've placed my order, thanks all. Allan, the EDP is not officially available in Europe since it needs mods to pass the European CE certification. Trace have a stockpile meant for the US that they are willing to sell direct for a good deal on a "product tester" basis. I heard about it through the list, some others have already taken the plunge. Martin Shellard > From: "Allan Hoeltje" > > No, you need the Againinator, it not only kicks ass but will kiss it as > well. It should start shipping around last August. > > :-) > > Seriously, the Line 6 (you mean the delay modeler, right?) is a nice toy to > play with while waiting for your EDP to arrive. Get an EDP (two if you need > stereo) and you will not be sorry. > > What is a "tester" EDP? Did I miss that thread? > > > -Allan > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 15:04:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32640; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:02:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:02:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:02:08 +0100 Subject: Re: OT steinberger Thanks From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Reading this back it sounds confusing. By "lowest part" I mean the part that is nearest the bridge. Martin Shellard > From: Martin Shellard > > Use a fret saw to remove the lowest part of the ring. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 15:49:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01469; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:40:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:40:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00bf01c100d4$b5ea9140$bcb3143f@pavilion> Reply-To: "Michael Roth" From: "Michael Roth" To: References: Subject: Re: Effects question Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:50:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C1009A.08452F80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C1009A.08452F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know what Gilmore is using but I use a zoom 9030 for that sort = of thing. It has a "hold" function for the reverb! Sort of a reverb = loop. U need a 9050 foot controller with an expression pedal to make it = happen but it is so soft and nice (can you tell I love my zoom?) ------------------------------------------------- Michael Rothmeyer www.ltspears.com NON- ROCK- ON ++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Feeney=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 6:14 AM Subject: Effects question Hello; I heard a solo acoustic performance the other day by Pink Floyd's = David Gilmour. In it he used a nice effect where he would strum his = acoustic guitar, and the chord would resonate in a very floaty, organ-like way allowing him to noodle over the chords. What kind of pedal might = allow this? Thanks! Mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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I don't know what Gilmore is using but I use a zoom = 9030 for=20 that sort of thing. It has a "hold" function for the reverb! Sort of a = reverb=20 loop. U need a 9050 foot controller with an expression pedal to = make it=20 happen but it is so soft and nice (can you tell I love my = zoom?)

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    Hello;

    I = heard a=20 solo acoustic performance the other day by Pink Floyd's=20 David
Gilmour.  In it he used a nice effect where he would = strum his=20 acoustic
guitar, and the chord would resonate in a very floaty, = organ-like=20 way
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= ------=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C1009A.08452F80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 16:03:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02068; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:59:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:59:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:51:47 -0500 From: DL Reid Subject: roland cable X-Sender: davidreid@citcom.net To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <3.0.4.32.20010629155147.008f0a60@citcom.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Plus Version 3.0.4 (32) with Spelling Checker Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hello i loaned my old roland guitar synth to an ex friend, when i got it back i was missing the cable with pins that runs between the rack mount controller and the pickup. can you tell me where to get one. this is one of the first units, i dont have it with me here but i think it is an GK1, it does not have the sounds in the box, you have to have a module or key board to get the tones. i always thought it did good organ and string, and horn sounds though. the pianos were real chopy. any advise would be very much appreciated dave reid From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 16:31:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03782; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:26:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:26:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3CE64E.1D99C081@tranquility.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:34:24 -0500 From: paul trent X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: questions. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello Everybody, Questions from the neophite about looping devices: I want to layer one loop in over another and have them all going at once. What's the best machine to do this with? And aren't there time limits on the loops w/ different machines?? Also I want to send the sound out live; any machines better for that? Anybody used Electrix "Repeater". What are its capabilities or limitations? Thanks, Peace loops Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 17:19:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05784; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:16:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:16:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:15:43 -0400 Subject: Re: roland cable From: Doug Miller To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.4.32.20010629155147.008f0a60@citcom.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You can get those from Musicians Friend. They are not cheap though. I got a replacement cord several years ago for my guitar synth, then the cord was $75 or so. > i loaned my old roland guitar synth to an ex friend, when i got it back i > was missing the cable with pins that runs between the rack mount controller > and the pickup. can you tell me where to get one. this is one of the > first units, i dont have it with me here but i think it is an GK1, it does > not have the sounds in the box, you have to have a module or key board to > get the tones. i always thought it did good organ and string, and horn > sounds though. the pianos were real chopy. ------------------------- Doug Miller Graphic Designer http://www.dispatch.com http://www.cccn.org http://home.columbus.rr.com/dougmiller From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 17:46:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06359; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:43:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:43:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <011001c100e4$0926dd50$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <3B3CE64E.1D99C081@tranquility.net> Subject: Re: questions. Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:39:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello Paul, Welcome to the list! Much good info can be found at the Looper's Delight site: http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html Especially check out: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/tools.html > I want to layer one > loop in over another and have them all going at once. What's the best > machine to do this with? The answer to "best" depends on your budget, needs, and floor space. Many people start with a relatively simple looper like the Line 6 DL-4 or Akai Headrush. Many people really like the more complex loopers such as the Echoplex Digital Pro (aka EDP or 'plex) or Lexicon Jamman. The quality of your looping seems to depend more on what comes out of your head than what comes out of your looper. Meaning, I suppose, that the tool is secondary. > And aren't there time limits on the loops w/ > different machines?? Yes, indeed. Check out the info in Tools of the Trade. > Anybody used Electrix "Repeater". What are its capabilities or > limitations? Not many here have used the "Repeater." (Ok, that's sort of an "inside joke." A number of us have been eagerly anticipating the release of the Repeater. But the release is behind schedule leading to lots of discussion Check the archives for full details.) Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 19:31:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10317; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:29:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:29:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Kevin Mulvihill" To: Subject: LA Loop Feste Review Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:28:16 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all, Well, I, too, was at the loop feste last night. Herewith is my detailed review. Grab a cup of coffee, if it isn't yet too late, and enjoy. The feste was held, essentially, in an unrented office in downtown Burbank. To get to the concert room, I had to walk through a reception area, another smaller room where some of the musicians were getting ready to go "onstage," and then into the concert room itself. I saw an email that said the concert room might hold 20-25 people; having been in there now, I can say that if we had had that many, it would have been very tight indeed! It wasn't very big. As it was, we had maybe 15-20 people there. I remember walking through the reception area and into the smaller room leading to the concert room. I almost ran into a guy there with a guitar strapped on his shoulder. For a brief second, neither one of us said anything. He had that characteristic wide-eyed look of someone staring down the headlights of an oncoming Mack truck. He clearly had no idea who I was - and he had no reason to for we had never met. So, in just that one brief second, with a smile on my face, I thought about introducing myself. "Hi, I'm David Torn," I wanted to say. lol. But I didn't want to cause a heart attack so I didn't. I gave him my real name. Turned out that was Andre. He played first, starting a few minutes later at about 8:00. I can appreciate the fact that he was nervous. Andre seemed eager to get his set over with because he constantly asked what time it was after nearly every song. I don't understand why he felt that way. The guy soared! He did it all with guitar and he worked the EDP extensively. He is a master of the EDP! I have an EDP myself, that I got a few months ago. But I also have a ztar now, and a Kurzweil K2600 rack synthesizer. And since I've never really had a synth to play with before, I haven't had a lot of time to spend learning the EDP. I'm still a beginner. But, my oh my, was I impressed. I didn't know an Echoplex could do all that stuff! Andre performed perhaps 4 or 5 pieces in a 30 minute set, and I enjoyed each one. He had a number of loops going and, since I was sitting off to the side and couldn't see what buttons he was pressing on the EDP, I asked Gary Lehman, who was sitting next to me and had a better view, what he was pressing. Gary said it was Next Loop. Made sense. Andre had a wide variety of loops going on, switching between them in a way that gave structure to each song. It was nice. He also worked Undo a pretty good bit too, and he clearly has some powerful guitar technique. So I don't know why he was nervous. That boy is gifted. Ric was next. He was playing through a Line 6 (I think - it was a green box), and an EDP. He tended to lay down backing tracks more in the nature of chords, and then play on top of them. He prefaced his set by saying that after Andre's wonderful set, he felt that the audience would likely find him overly atonal. Well, I didn't. Ric had some really nice riffs going. He'd lay down a backing rhythm as a loop, and then play on top of it. One of his bands that he's producing was also at the gig, so I know he does other things, but he can play too! There were a number of lead guitar licks he snuck in that were clearly indicative of someone who's done their shedding! Very cool. Ric was using borrowed gear and he had said that his own EDP was down and so he hadn't played one in about a year. A couple of times he had a great loop going on the EDP, then wanted to overdub on it, but mistakenly hit the Record button again which, of course, kills the loop. I've done that too. I could see he got a little frustrated (as have I). One or two other times he started something off, and then killed it because it wasn't exactly what he wanted. I mention all of this because I really dug *everything* Ric did. Even the things he killed to start over on something else. I was groovin throughout the whole set. Man, the guy was rockin! He even sung a song too, with all this massive loopage happening behind him. Call me a throwback to the counter-culture days of the past, but I enjoyed the ambience during Ric's set as well. When Andre started up, it wasn't yet dark and the light was coming in through the windows. When Steve played later, he wanted to have a light on so he could see what he was doing. But during Ric's set, Tony (I think) went around and lit a bunch of candles and turned on a soft, dark red light. The room was bathed in this eerie red glow and only the candles provided a subtle counterpoint. Then, during the set, here's all this screaming loopage coming at ya from Ric! It was fantastic! I remember, at one point, looking around the room. Now, I'm an oldster, comparatively speaking; I played music professionally mostly back during the 70s and early to mid-80s. Back then, I was a rabble-rousing, bass playing, kickass party animal who lived for rock and roll. I'm more mellow now. But last night, I was struck by the difference a few years could make. I mean, think of it. This is how great musical movements begin, right? A coupla performers, pushing the boundaries, doing something new that isn't even really yet known about in mass society, getting together with a few folks in the audience who are open to new experiences and new ways of doing things and new ways of enjoying life. And it all happens in some relatively non-descript back room with poor lighting in a relatively-deserted area of downtown where most people quietly come and go without much regard for the wildly creative revolution that might be brewing in their very own backyards! Who would have thought? It's like a counter-culture. Small today, yes, but someday, if the music is good enough, and the musicians compelling enough, then perhaps with the potential to take over the world. It was exciting. But it was also so different from the old days with which I am familiar. Back then, nearly everyone in the audience, and probably nearly all the musicians (except for me, that is), would have been smoking cigarettes. Especially during Ric's set when the lights were low and the ambience was right. But, back in the ol' days too, there would - undoubtedly - and more importantly - have been one or more folks pulling out the doobers too. Yep, that would have happened back then for sure. And you know what? I felt nostalgic last night. If someone had offered up a doob, I would have had a puff. :-) In the ol' days, there would have been a real cloud of smoke in that room! Last night, though, nobody smoked anything; I'm glad nobody smoked cigarettes. I would have been surprised if someone had pulled out a reef. The times - they have clearly changed, and overall for the better it seems. But, I confess, my need to *learn* from the experience aside, I would have had a puff on a doober. Yep. Woulda done that. But don't tell anyone. I love rock and roll, and pushing the boundaries. Who gives a fuck about a stupid law that should have been repealed long ago? People need more, not less, personal freedom, I think. Steve was up next. The problem with Steve is that he makes it all look so easy that, for a second, you *almost* find yourself saying, "Yeah, I could do that too." But, I can't, I know that. I feel like a hacker next to Steve. He is very gifted, obviously. And he is a master of his gear. He was running through two Line 6s (I think) and that expensive Lexicon effects box. He did some *really* interesting things with his loops, starting with a backing loop, soloing over it, adding new supporting loops and effects, soloing some more, etc. And all the while, playing the sweetest, *cleanest* melody lines on that bass. Truly, they were about as clean as I've heard in a good long while. And, as a sometimes bass player myself, I can attest to the fact that it ain't easy to play that smoothly! Watching his hands, you can see that this is a guy who's done his shedding, and then some. Also, I noticed a lot of vibrato in his fingers. Very, very few bass players use their fingers for vibrato. I was pleased that I, at least, do. I also liked the way Steve talked with the audience between songs about what he was going to play next, even offing a few humorous lines here and there. I especially liked the intro he gave "Bittersweet"... that's the song he wrote for his uncle who passed on. It was great to know some of the background for what he was about to play, and it's a nice touch to communicate with your audience in that way. It brings us all closer together and makes us feel more a part of the performance. All us loopers would do well to learn by his example. It works. By 11:00 or so, it was all over. There was a short Q&A period, and then discussion as various people got to know one another. Then, we all headed home. In short, a great time was had by all. I can't wait for the next one, and I would hope that we do this on a regular basis. These things are fun!!! Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 19:44:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10723; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:41:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:41:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:44:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: LA Loop Feste Review Cc: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 4:28 PM 6/29/01, Kevin Mulvihill wrote: >Hi all, > >Well, I, too, was at the loop feste last night. Herewith is my detailed >review. Grab a cup of coffee, if it isn't yet too late, and enjoy. Man, this just sounds like it was a terrific scene. Wish it was closer! > He clearly had no idea who I was - >and he had no reason to for we had never met. So, in just that one brief >second, with a smile on my face, I thought about introducing myself. "Hi, >I'm David Torn," I wanted to say. lol. Kevin, you are an evil dude! > >He played first, starting a few minutes later at about 8:00. I can >appreciate the fact that he was nervous. Andre seemed eager to get his set >over with because he constantly asked what time it was after nearly every >song. I don't understand why he felt that way. The guy soared! He did it all >with guitar and he worked the EDP extensively. He is a master of the EDP! I >have an EDP myself, that I got a few months ago. But I also have a ztar now, >and a Kurzweil K2600 rack synthesizer. And since I've never really had a >synth to play with before, I haven't had a lot of time to spend learning the >EDP. I'm still a beginner. But, my oh my, was I impressed. I didn't know an >Echoplex could do all that stuff! I just picked up Andre's Disruption Theory CD (finally!), and he is one burning player. Andre, I understand being nervous and all that, but you've got no reason to be! ____________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org New & Improv Media http://www.newandimprov.com Now available: Minus: Dark Lit ____________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 20:08:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12307; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:06:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:06:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Kevin Mulvihill" To: Subject: RE: I want an EDP right? Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:05:37 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You know, I've been off this list for about four months, prior to this week, and now that I'm back, it's a real pleasure to see the continuing discussion of the Againinator. With all the ruckus surrounding the Repeater, and the veritable brouhaha that's taken place over when it might someday be released, it's reassuring to see that we haven't forgotten about what may, in fact, be the superior product: the Againinator. Kevin > I've heard that the much anticipated Againinator, when it's released, will > rule all in it's path and for a competitive price. Comes in "cool" DJ > stylin' too! > btw I heard it was for sure shipping from last June > ; ) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 20:56:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA13016; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:53:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:53:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: <129.c5a109.286e7ced@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:53:01 EDT Subject: Re: roland cable To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Alto Music can get you one-845 692 6922 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 22:22:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA16404; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:18:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:18:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3D36B0.EB7097BD@altruistmusic.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:17:19 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Loop Feste Decompression Part 1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes indeed, a fine time. I actually emerged unscathed. I'll post my own feedback in a separate post. First off, some replies... Gary Lehman spoke: > Nobody seemed to using quantize with their EDP Actually, I used quintile during much of the second and third tunes; indeed, they would have been utterly impossible without it. It was also set up for Ric's set, but I don't believe he did anything with the EDP that would have been dependent on having it engaged. > The big lesson I learned last night is to try to stay in your comfort > zone Really?! Wow, I actually had a completely different take on it... the entire set, for me, was an exercise in taking my own personal musical comfort zone and putting it through the shredder (more on that in my next post). Kevin say: > He had that characteristic wide-eyed look of someone staring down > the headlights of an oncoming Mack truck. Gee, Kevin, too kind. :-{} > I thought about introducing myself. "Hi, > I'm David Torn," I wanted to say. lol. I seriously doubt Mr. Torn has changed *THAT* much in the three years since he and I last hung out... (though I do seem to recall seeing a photo of him with a very Tom Jenkinson-esque beard!) > I can > appreciate the fact that he was nervous. Shucks, and here I'd been priding myself on having been calm and collected. > Andre seemed eager to get his set > over with because he constantly asked what time it was after nearly every > song. That was because the overall schedule for the gig had been arranged with the premise that I'd play for about a half hour, with Ric and Steve each playing for an hour after that. Since my set was entirely improvised, I had no idea how long I was playing for as I played, and since it was a three-act show on a weeknight, I didn't want to keep things running over. I actually thought about bringing a clock to the gig so I could time myself. Additionally, it was the first time I'd ever played with that particular equipment configuration (guitar into EDP into mono amp, no signal processing at all), a pretty much 100% improvised set, and the first live loop gig I'd done since October of 1997. Not exactly a surefire prescription for a flawless set. But I actually felt very comfortable once everything started. I'm just glad Steve had already told me Frank Gambale might be showing up, so that I didn't have a nervous breakdown when I saw him sitting in the audience. No sweep-picking from *ME* that night. > I asked Gary > Lehman, who was sitting next to me and had a better view, what he was > pressing. Gary said it was Next Loop. Made sense. Yes, there was some "Next Loop"... but also a ton of "Multiply," "Insert," "Undo," "Overdub," feedback percentage, insertmode, quantized and unquantized remultiply (and, consequently, cycle rounding), parameter row scrolling, quantized insertmode=insert, unquantized insertmode=replace, and liberal use of the top-secret remultiply+undo "bug" maneuver (aka "The Sylmar Shuffle"). I hope it goes without saying that all of the above comments are said in good humor and sincere appreciation to those who took the time to write in with their detailed reviews. I offer this merely to give "the performer's take"... More to come, --a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 29 22:22:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA16494; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:20:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:20:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3D3715.707C077E@altruistmusic.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:19:01 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop Feste Decompression Part 1 References: <3B3D36B0.EB7097BD@altruistmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK, here's a PS to my last post: > > Nobody seemed to using quantize with their EDP > > Actually, I used quintile during much of the second and third tunes; This, folks, is why you shouldn't use the spell-checker on your email program in a sleep-deprived state... --a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 00:22:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20625; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:19:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:19:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Loopbozo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:18:32 EDT Subject: Re: review of bio about LEON THEREMIN To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Parts of this book were as emotionally hard to read as anything I've read so far in my techno-primitive existance. b.helm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 02:39:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24571; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 02:36:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 02:36:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3E1BE6.67140377@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:35:19 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I want an EDP right? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com We at Electros are sad and ashamed to announce that we will miss yet another ship date due to our unwillingness to ship a product that does not have the proper DJ styling. Right now, it's "fresh" but we don't want to release it until it's "fly." In the mean time, we will be selling our other products for nothing, plus offering a mail in rebate for free turkish taffy with each purchase. Gern Blanston Electros Sales and Marketing Kevin Mulvihill wrote: > You know, I've been off this list for about four months, prior to this week, > and now that I'm back, it's a real pleasure to see the continuing discussion > of the Againinator. With all the ruckus surrounding the Repeater, and the > veritable brouhaha that's taken place over when it might someday be > released, it's reassuring to see that we haven't forgotten about what may, > in fact, be the superior product: the Againinator. > > Kevin > > > I've heard that the much anticipated Againinator, when it's released, will > > rule all in it's path and for a competitive price. Comes in "cool" DJ > > stylin' too! > > btw I heard it was for sure shipping from last June > > ; ) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 03:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA26092; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 03:08:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 03:08:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Kevin Mulvihill" To: Subject: RE: Loop Feste Decompression Part 1 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:08:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3B3D36B0.EB7097BD@altruistmusic.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > I thought about introducing myself. "Hi, > > I'm David Torn," I wanted to say. lol. > > I seriously doubt Mr. Torn has changed *THAT* much in the three years > since he and I last hung out... lol. hmmm... so Dave must not be really all that handsome, huh? Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 03:24:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA26338; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 03:21:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 03:21:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3D7DB8.69BA2514@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:20:24 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Loop Feste Decompression Part 2 + Mindless Philosophy Rant: The Ambient Looping Paradigm References: <3B3D36B0.EB7097BD@altruistmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ...is brought to you by the word "Insomnia." So apologies in advance if my assessment of 24 hours past is a bit wonky. First of all: What a wonderful group of people to play for. The audience was great: very attentive, tuned in, and supportive. Definitely not something to take for granted. Many thanks to everyone who was there; you were a delight to play for. Show organizer Tony Moore was a model of efficiency and hospitality in getting things set up and operational for us. The gig simply could not have happened without him, and I think we'd have been hard pressed to find a more enthusiastic host for this sort of thing. Rick Walker was absent only in physical presence; he came up in conversation numerous times at the show, and it would likely not have taken place without his encouragement. So Rick, thanks for kicking LA in the rear end and getting a loop gig together, after a mere 4 1/2 years of talking about it. Last but certainly not least, Ric and Steve were fabulous guys to share the bill with, both musically and personally. Thanks to everyone involved for granting me the opportunity to take part. My favorite aspect of the whole night was the chance to compare notes on exactly what on earth looping is about in 2001 -- not just in conversation with people, but in listening to what was being played. A lot of us were very struck at how different each set was, both in terms of the general musical slant, and in terms of the technicalities of how looping was integrated into the material. A couple of philosophical issues about the craft have been drifting around my brain in the days before and after the gig, and at this point I don't know if I'm any closer to having them resolved: The main one, which I've been trying to come to terms with for years now, is the almost ever-present issue of equating "looping music" with "ambient music." I don't think there's any question that real-time looping lends itself to ambient, spacy drones, rubato waves of sound, Frippian soundscapes, Eno-esque textures, and various other cliche'd colloquialisms, none of which I can presently muster up enough energy to drop right now. I've played plenty of that sort of thing myself -- hell, I played plenty of it last night. And if there was a common thread to the SOUNDS of the three sets last night (aside from the obvious technical aspects), I think it was that they all featured a certain abstract, textural, dronesque quality -- not just in the sheer sound, but in terms of how it captured the audience's attention. Now, certainly, everyone had their own distinct identity. Steve's extremely melodic and compositional approach was a sharp contrast to Ric's more textural, chordal tap-delay rhythms and expansive leads. I still don't know what the hell I played, but I'm gonna hazard a guess and unofficially refer to this as my "John Fahey meets Ravi Shankar as produced by Squarepusher" phase. Three distinct sets, but some definite common threads and aesthetics. Lots of expansive and improvisational sonic textures. And if Ebows were illegal, all three performers would be trying to post bail right now. So the crucial issue for me at this point is: how much of the ambient looping paradigm is a deliberate gesture on the part of the performer, and how much of it is the apparatus of the craft dictating the performer's actions? Do people play ambient music with looping gear because they're drawn to ambient music in the first place, or do loopists tend to play space music because that's the sort of music that the gear lends itself to? Steve mentioned to us that he would take it as a complement if the audience went to sleep to his music. Now, Mr. Lawson has a sense of humor so deadpan that it makes Steven Wright look like Sam Kinison, but he also seems genuinely comfortable with his music taking on a more passive role. (Please correct me and/or slap me upside the head if I'm wrong on this, Steve.) I personally had no problem focusing on either of the other guys' sets. But when I loop, I feel trapped from a performance point of view by this detached, abstract characteristic. The main struggle for me with looping at this point is trying to use the thing to engage the listener/audience in a more active way, which directs their attention in a very focused manner. And to try and find a way of having the looping feeding my own playing, as opposed to my playing feeding the looping. How to reconcile that with a musical technique fundamentally based upon repetition of sound? I wish I could answer that one. Of course, I could just stop spouting this rubbish, shut the hell up and go to sleep (much like anyone who's tried to read this post has surely done by now...) Anyway. Thanks once again to everyone involved in the gig; I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. --Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 05:46:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA31578; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 05:44:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 05:44:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010630094333.23345.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 02:43:33 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Againinator beta problems? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3B3E1BE6.67140377@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Gern, Thank you for allowing me to beta test the Againinator. Last night while attempting to loop some Ace Frehley riffs, the Againinator exhibited the following behavior: a) 30 seconds into "I Want To Rock & Roll All Night, (And Party Every Day)", the Againinator launched itself from the rack, knocking me to the floor. (I was already off balance as I was doing a leg kick.) b) it then proceeded to eat the big shoes off my feet. c) indulged in carnal knowledge with my cat. d) relieved itself in my headphones. My beta unit did not come with a manual. Is the unit functioning properly? John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 08:18:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA03878; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:15:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:15:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:15:52 +0100 Subject: Re: Againinator beta problems? From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010630094333.23345.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id IAA03851 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes you have a fully functioning unit, these "easter egg" features will only be announced upon final release (conservative estimate June 2007-2015). The lack of a manual is a feature of the easy to use UI. For safety reasons: € Always ensure you have both feet on the ground when using) or planning to buy) the unit. € Keep all pets well away from the Againinator, especially when in overdub mode € Under no circumstances should you try to loop "Love Gun" the repercussions will be....unpredictable. Martin Shellard > From: John Tidwell > Dear Gern, > > Thank you for allowing me to beta test the > Againinator. > > Last night while attempting to loop some Ace Frehley > riffs, the Againinator exhibited the following > behavior: > > a) 30 seconds into "I Want To Rock & Roll All Night, > (And Party Every Day)", the Againinator launched > itself from the rack, knocking me to the floor. > > (I was already off balance as I was doing a leg > kick.) > > b) it then proceeded to eat the big shoes off my feet. > > c) indulged in carnal knowledge with my cat. > > d) relieved itself in my headphones. > > My beta unit did not come with a manual. Is the unit > functioning properly? > > John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 09:08:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05559; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:06:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:06:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: I want an EDP right? Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:04:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you certainly do............. To quote Tom Waits, 'it slices & dices and is the only product you'll ever need' > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Shellard [mailto:m.shellard@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 29 June 2001 18:32 > To: Loopers Delight > Subject: I want an EDP right? > > > Seriously thinking about getting a couple of "tester" EDPs from Trace > Elliot. > > I have a Line 6 and Vortex but I still need an EDP right? > > Thanks > Martin Shellard > > ps > posts along the lines of "hell yeah mine kicks ass!" or "if > you loop you > need EDP like a mammal needs air" would be appropriate : ) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 10:27:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07869; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 10:24:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 10:24:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000a01c1016f$b0e9e240$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> From: "shreeswifty" To: References: Subject: Re: Againinator beta problems? Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 10:19:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I consulted the FAQ that came with my model and it says this version not compatible with "The Elder" or "Frehley's Comet" plaster caster worked fine though Pat Pagano, Director South East Just Intonation Society http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Shellard To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Againinator beta problems? > Yes you have a fully functioning unit, these "easter egg" features will only > be announced upon final release (conservative estimate June 2007-2015). > The lack of a manual is a feature of the easy to use UI. > > For safety reasons: > > ? Always ensure you have both feet on the ground when using) or planning > to buy) the unit. > ? Keep all pets well away from the Againinator, especially when in overdub > mode > ? Under no circumstances should you try to loop "Love Gun" the > repercussions will be....unpredictable. > > > Martin Shellard > > > > From: John Tidwell > > > Dear Gern, > > > > Thank you for allowing me to beta test the > > Againinator. > > > > Last night while attempting to loop some Ace Frehley > > riffs, the Againinator exhibited the following > > behavior: > > > > a) 30 seconds into "I Want To Rock & Roll All Night, > > (And Party Every Day)", the Againinator launched > > itself from the rack, knocking me to the floor. > > > > (I was already off balance as I was doing a leg > > kick.) > > > > b) it then proceeded to eat the big shoes off my feet. > > > > c) indulged in carnal knowledge with my cat. > > > > d) relieved itself in my headphones. > > > > My beta unit did not come with a manual. Is the unit > > functioning properly? > > > > John > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 11:19:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09907; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:17:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:17:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <105.5886944.286f4754@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:16:36 EDT Subject: Re: first la loop feste To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_105.5886944.286f4754_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <_urj3D.A.laC.d1eP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_105.5886944.286f4754_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/29/01 1:09:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net writes: > I saw at least one famous face there. > > wait a minute, i wasnt there was i?.....:)m --part1_105.5886944.286f4754_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/29/01 1:09:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net writes:


I saw at least one famous face there.



wait a minute, i wasnt there was i?.....:)m --part1_105.5886944.286f4754_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 11:37:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10256; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:34:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:34:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:36:16 -0700 From: Doug Lawrence Subject: RE: To All My Software Based Loopy Brothers ! In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000a01c1017a$9ed87bb0$0382c83f@kinesys12> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sonar is just the follow on version of Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.0 ... it seems that they've integrated something that is similar to Acid in the Sonar product ... "SONAR hosts an entire audio loop construction toolkit for incorporating loops into your project quickly. Use SONAR to create and edit loop-based projects, and record additional audio and MIDI tracks for rich, layered sound." Although I have no experience with it. I would say it's definitely worth checking out and the DXi Soft Synths seem pretty interesting too. How about you check it out and let us know what you think? Acid 3.0 is a great product, but is only useful for those of us that use Windows based PCs. You could use Sonar to help with some of the MIDI file creation/editing portions of your Acid projects. -----Original Message----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:02 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: To All My Software Based Loopy Brothers ! Ok, it's me again, with a very OT or OnT (what's the difference ?). I have just gotten a hold of a copy of the two CD set of Cakewalk's SONAR 1.0...(my buddy at Guitar Center, let me check out the store's copy, before I decided to shell out the bucks to buy it.... we got it like that). Well, I was wondering, before I install this Puppy, has anyone out there used this app for anything ? I know I can play with it all I want, but I was wondering what the masses have to say about this app. Has anyone did anything with it, etc. I am an ACID man (no, not the drug !), the app. And I have had no problems using that app (now that I have 3.0... I am MIDI crazy, but I digress), so I need your help. I know the app is somewhat new (I missed the workshop at my local Guitar Center, that's why my buddy there let me check out the store's copy... they know I am a "Software-Head".). Yet, I digress again. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 11:38:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10347; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:36:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:36:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <28.177342ed.286f4bf2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:36:18 EDT Subject: Re: Loop Feste Decompression Part 2 + Mindless Philosophy Rant: The Ambient ... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_28.177342ed.286f4bf2_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_28.177342ed.286f4bf2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/30/01 3:21:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, altruist@altruistmusic.com writes: > (much like anyone who's tried to read this post has > surely done by now...) > andre.....not so!.....food for thought here, thanks.....:)m --part1_28.177342ed.286f4bf2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/30/01 3:21:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
altruist@altruistmusic.com writes:


(much like anyone who's tried to read this post has
surely done by now...)


andre.....not so!.....food for thought here, thanks.....:)m --part1_28.177342ed.286f4bf2_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 12:16:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12105; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:14:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:14:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Steve Lawson" To: Subject: RE: LA Loop Feste Review Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:21:37 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>Steve was up next. The problem with Steve is that he makes it all look so easy that, for a second, you *almost* find yourself saying, "Yeah, I could do that too." But, I can't, I know that. I feel like a hacker next to Steve. He is very gifted, obviously. And he is a master of his gear. He was running through two Line 6s (I think) and that expensive Lexicon effects box. He did some *really* interesting things with his loops, starting with a backing loop, soloing over it, adding new supporting loops and effects, soloing some more, etc. And all the while, playing the sweetest, *cleanest* melody lines on that bass. Truly, they were about as clean as I've heard in a good long while. And, as a sometimes bass player myself, I can attest to the fact that it ain't easy to play that smoothly! Watching his hands, you can see that this is a guy who's done his shedding, and then some. Also, I noticed a lot of vibrato in his fingers. Very, very few bass players use their fingers for vibrato. I was pleased that I, at least, do. I also liked the way Steve talked with the audience between songs about what he was going to play next, even offing a few humorous lines here and there. I especially liked the intro he gave "Bittersweet"... that's the song he wrote for his uncle who passed on. It was great to know some of the background for what he was about to play, and it's a nice touch to communicate with your audience in that way. It brings us all closer together and makes us feel more a part of the performance. All us loopers would do well to learn by his example. It works.<<<< Kevin, thanks so much for that - I love getting feedback on gigs (musically as well as in the form of reviews... :o) and I'm really glad you enjoyed the show. Telling stories before songs is something that sometimes I do once like last night, and sometimes takes up almost half the gig (the 'clinic' that I did at the Bass Exchange in January was more like the latter... :o) Playing wise, I focus on control and awareness - chops of any kind are just there to offer more control of the sound, so getting a great tone and placement on one note is far more important than stringing together a load of half-assed fast stuff. I love it when people's conception of music starts with 'sound' not 'notes' - Andre's string bending thing was stunning and original - I'd recognise his playing anywhere after having only heard two CDs and a one gig... BTW - Andre's CD is fantastic. anyone anywhere interested in avant-guitar should have it. He's a fine programmer to, as the cool drum stuff on there will attest to... And Ric Hordenski's band Monk are great too - a cool singer/songwriter vibe with soem great tunes and really great lyrics... do yourself a favour and buy one of each! :o) cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 12:26:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12320; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:23:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:23:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Steve Lawson" To: Subject: RE: LA Loop Feste Review Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:30:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <3vM3cB.A.XAD.nzfP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>Steve mentioned to us that he would take it as a complement if the audience went to sleep to his music. Now, Mr. Lawson has a sense of humor so deadpan that it makes Steven Wright look like Sam Kinison, but he also seems genuinely comfortable with his music taking on a more passive role. (Please correct me and/or slap me upside the head if I'm wrong on this, Steve.) I personally had no problem focusing on either of the other guys' sets. But when I loop, I feel trapped from a performance point of view by this detached, abstract characteristic.<<< I'm really not worried how people relate to it, so long as they do, even if it's to decide to not like it... If people fall asleep cool, if they are bass players getting off on my chops, they are easily pleased, but that's cool, if people are following the looping process that's cool, or if they just like the nice tunes that too is cool... I tend to think of what I do as ambientertainment - it can be either wallpaper or performance or both or neither, and I had nothing to do with that part of the decision making process. I try to make no fixed demands on the audience beyond hoping that they be honest... That's why I LOVE having kids at my gigs - they run around, listen, ask questions, play games and generally disrupt any po-faced head-up-ass-ness that could ever happen at a gig... more all-age gigs pleeze! :o) If people want to doze off in the gig, that's genuinely fine by me - they may be woken up at some point by loud clattering noises, but I'll try to be sensitive... :o) BTW, I'm at Jazz and Java in Redlands tonight, if anyone wants to come down... see my website for details of the manring/walker/lawson tour... Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 13:07:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14430; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:04:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:04:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006c01c10187$246fbd40$55b94e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Loop Feste Decompression Part 1 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:07:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <0OdE0.A.UhD.eagP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Andre wrote: >> > Nobody seemed to using quantize with their EDP >> >> Actually, I used quintile during much of the second and third tunes; > >This, folks, is why you shouldn't use the spell-checker on your email >program in a sleep-deprived state... Thanks for the explanation! I'd read the earlier post which described your mastery of the Echoplex, and I was wondering -- "Man, Andre can even get the EDP to do statistics! I know it's a great looper, but I had no idea . . . Wow, I'm *really* impressed!" But now I don't feel quite so bad for being an underachiever. :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 13:24:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14777; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:22:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:22:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B3E1BE6.67140377@zerocrossing.net> References: <3B3E1BE6.67140377@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:21:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: one has heard... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ...that a final version of the Repeater software has apparently been arrived at... which means that electrix could start burning the firmware and shipping Repeaters almost "instantly". electrix management seems bright and cautious though, suspect they'd be cleverly testing it just a little more before it goes out, to see if there are potential "show stopper" bugs. /t that was fast .......all legal games of chess ...... .....programmer's documentation .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 14:18:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16931; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:16:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:16:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3EC014.116EF3FD@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:15:48 -0700 From: Mark Organization: zerocrossing inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Againinator beta problems? References: <000a01c1016f$b0e9e240$7fa14ed8@gnv.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As a cybernetic device, we took full advantage of the ability of the Againinator to make "choices" about the music it loops. We found that with most new technologies, music produced can often take too much advantage of the wiz-bang factor, so we "raised" the Againinators to respond negatively toward bad music. In future updates, the Againinator will also be able to make commentary, in the form of biting, about your clothes. We've had a few fatalities when testing this feature on spandex pants and tee-shirts with silk screens of tuxedos on them, so we're still in beta on that version. At Electros, our hope is to not only make loop based music easier to create, but better. Our ultimate goal is to have enough Againinator owners group together and form an army that will band against Time/Warner, bringing it down like the stinking pigs that they are. This will hopefully coincide with the colonization of Mars. (As an offshoot of this new technology, the Againinator is ideally suited for extremely harsh environments) Dr. Eldon Tyrell Product Development Electros Inc. shreeswifty wrote: > I consulted the FAQ that came with my model > and it says this version not compatible with "The Elder" or "Frehley's > Comet" > > plaster caster worked fine though > > Pat Pagano, Director > South East Just Intonation Society > http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ > http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martin Shellard > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 8:15 AM > Subject: Re: Againinator beta problems? > > > Yes you have a fully functioning unit, these "easter egg" features will > only > > be announced upon final release (conservative estimate June 2007-2015). > > The lack of a manual is a feature of the easy to use UI. > > > > For safety reasons: > > > > ? Always ensure you have both feet on the ground when using) or planning > > to buy) the unit. > > ? Keep all pets well away from the Againinator, especially when in > overdub > > mode > > ? Under no circumstances should you try to loop "Love Gun" the > > repercussions will be....unpredictable. > > > > > > Martin Shellard > > > > > > > From: John Tidwell > > > > > Dear Gern, > > > > > > Thank you for allowing me to beta test the > > > Againinator. > > > > > > Last night while attempting to loop some Ace Frehley > > > riffs, the Againinator exhibited the following > > > behavior: > > > > > > a) 30 seconds into "I Want To Rock & Roll All Night, > > > (And Party Every Day)", the Againinator launched > > > itself from the rack, knocking me to the floor. > > > > > > (I was already off balance as I was doing a leg > > > kick.) > > > > > > b) it then proceeded to eat the big shoes off my feet. > > > > > > c) indulged in carnal knowledge with my cat. > > > > > > d) relieved itself in my headphones. > > > > > > My beta unit did not come with a manual. Is the unit > > > functioning properly? > > > > > > John > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 14:52:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17665; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:50:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:50:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.11.127.165] From: "Nick Schillace" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: multiple amps/signals Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:49:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2001 18:49:22.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[6098B520:01C10195] Resent-Message-ID: <1UjHTB.A.0TE.R9hP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Any advice on hardware that handles multiple line/effect signals between 2 amps. Now that I got some bargain electrix stuff in my effects loop, it's difficult to split the signals as I had before, since the amp I send loops to has no effects loop. The boomerang is my looper. Thanks Nick Schillace _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 15:08:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19310; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:07:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:07:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <002901c10198$2c878420$a697800a@cso0737101> From: "Mike Feeney" To: References: Subject: Re: multiple amps/signals Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:09:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <9PUoVD.A.gtE.fNiP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i've been coming up against the same hurdle here... I am building a pedalboard with the boomerang as my looper along with some other effects. I have an acoustic guitar and also an electric. I want to have both guitars plugged into the rig at the same time, but of course have the ability to switch from one to the other when I want, so that I can loop both guitars. My only problem is that when I'm playing the acoustic I want the signal to go to the PA, but when I'm playing electric, I want the signal to run to my amp (just got a new Fender Hot Rod DeVille!). Any advice on how to route the signal?? Probably just going to use an A/B switch for the inputs, but I'm not yet sure how to handle the output, unless I just use a 2nd A/B switch. But then that could be awkward, I think, to have to hit two different switches to change guitars. Not sure. The 2nd hurdle is that I'm thinking I'd have to use two different loopers in order to loop the acoustic guitar and have it continue to run through the PA if I wanted to use both instruments in the same song. Any other ideas? mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Schillace" To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: multiple amps/signals > Any advice on hardware that handles multiple line/effect signals between 2 > amps. Now that I got some bargain electrix stuff in my effects loop, it's > difficult to split the signals as I had before, since the amp I send loops > to has no effects loop. The boomerang is my looper. Thanks > > Nick Schillace > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 15:15:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19659; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:14:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:14:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001a01c100cf$3916a460$9aae5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #223 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:10:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #223 June 28, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Pyramid Peak, a German trio influenced by Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre and Klaus Schulze. The feature CD at midnight was "Ocean Drive" on the Invisible Shadows label. Pyramid Peak http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#jun PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Paul Nagle Fugsamkeit Red Book/Blue Book (Neu Harmony) Steve Roach Walking Upright Early Man (Projekt) Otarion Fusions Evolution (Neu Harmony) Mike Griffin & Lithospheric Flux The Most Distant Point Known (Hypnos) Dave Fulton Victor Cerullo Jonathan's Theme Loneflyer (Groove) vidnaObmana Echoing Delight Subterranean Collective (Projekt) 12:00 am Pyramid Peak First Mission Fish'n Love (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Elevation Fish'n Love (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Pulse Fish'n Love (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Changes Fish'n Love (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Impressions Fish'n Love (Invisible Shadows) Pyramid Peak Fish'n Love Fish'n Love (Invisible Shadows) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on The Ministry of Inside Things. The feature CD at midnight will be "Live at the ICA" on the Synkronos label. MoIT will be performing a live on-air, in-studio concert on EMUSIC, July 12, 2001. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 15:15:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19658; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:14:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:14:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: LA Loop Feste Review Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:14:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -----Original Message----- >>>Steve Lawson spoke of ambientertainment - ***GREAT GENRE NAME!!!!!!*** >>>it can be either wallpaper or performance or both or neither, and I had nothing to do with that part of the decision making process. ***Very important for a performer to remember--plus don't forget that everyone is entitled to make up their own minds >>>I try to make no fixed demands on the audience beyond hoping that they be honest... That's why I LOVE having kids at my gigs - they run around, listen, ask questions, play games and generally disrupt any po-faced head-up-ass-ness that could ever happen at a gig>>> I think I qualify--sorry if I come off wrong(live and online) but at least honesty R Us-- Thanks again Steve for playing my request-- Oh and one of the distinguishing characteristics of Andre's manipulation of the EDP was using the insert button as reverse to end a loop--at least on the first tune(the use of the nextloop button as quoted by Kevin refers to tune #2), and I saw Andre's insistence on timekeeping (between songs) as politeness rather than uptightness. Mah 2 cents-- Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 15:21:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19956; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:19:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:19:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:15:37 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: multiple amps/signals In-reply-to: <002901c10198$2c878420$a697800a@cso0737101> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <002901c10198$2c878420$a697800a@cso0737101> Resent-Message-ID: <375SlB.A.s3E.5YiP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 2:09 PM -0500 6/30/01, Mike Feeney wrote: >i've been coming up against the same hurdle here... I am building a >pedalboard with the boomerang as my looper along with some other effects. I >have an acoustic guitar and also an electric. I want to have both guitars >plugged into the rig at the same time, but of course have the ability to >switch from one to the other when I want, so that I can loop both guitars. >My only problem is that when I'm playing the acoustic I want the signal to >go to the PA, but when I'm playing electric, I want the signal to run to my >amp (just got a new Fender Hot Rod DeVille!). Any advice on how to route >the signal?? One hardware hack might be to rewire a stereo volume pedal so that instead of the dual-gang pot fading both channels up and down together, they cross-fade the two signals. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 15:22:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20004; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:20:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:20:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B3D36B0.EB7097BD@altruistmusic.com> References: Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:22:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Chovit Subject: Re: Loop Feste Decompression - question for Andre Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Congrats on the LA looper fest! I would have loved to have been there, but alas, working 7 days/week in the mojave desert while taking 2 classes has left me with little time for playing....let alone seeing others play....ahhh this should all change in about a month!! >and liberal use of the top-secret >remultiply+undo "bug" maneuver (aka "The Sylmar Shuffle"). Could you elaborate on this? I must have missed it when it was discussed previously....or maybe it is really top-secret..... Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 15:32:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20460; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:31:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:31:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.11.127.165] From: "Nick Schillace" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: multiple amps/signals Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:30:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2001 19:30:25.0514 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CA3CCA0:01C1019B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: "Mike Feeney" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: multiple amps/signals >Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:09:22 -0500 > > >i've been coming up against the same hurdle here... I am building a >pedalboard with the boomerang as my looper along with some other effects. >I >have an acoustic guitar and also an electric. I want to have both guitars >plugged into the rig at the same time, but of course have the ability to >switch from one to the other when I want, so that I can loop both guitars. >My only problem is that when I'm playing the acoustic I want the signal to >go to the PA, but when I'm playing electric, I want the signal to run to my >amp (just got a new Fender Hot Rod DeVille!). Any advice on how to route >the signal?? Probably just going to use an A/B switch for the inputs, but >I'm not yet sure how to handle the output, unless I just use a 2nd A/B >switch. But then that could be awkward, I think, to have to hit two >different switches to change guitars. Not sure. > >The 2nd hurdle is that I'm thinking I'd have to use two different loopers >in >order to loop the acoustic guitar and have it continue to run through the >PA >if I wanted to use both instruments in the same song. Any other ideas? Mike- I figured that this would be a common theme with different problems. I think they both center around using the boomerang in 2 different, but like situations. I have been running a small pedal board that splits my signal before the rang but after effects. I use an a/b to control the signals which only differ by the rang. The looped signal goes to an old super reverb, and the other to a newer concert. I have a volume pedal that I turn down when I plug and uplug guitars. My problem is that the electrix products I just got really need to go through an effects loop, which only the concert has. I know it seems logical to just loop on the concert, but loops sound better out of the super. Anyway, I think that there is a rather complex way to route using many cables and the aux on the rang, but it makes my head hurt just thinking about it. I would imagine that there are good switching systems out there that some loopers might know about. Boss makes a good and very flexible line selecter for a hundred bucks that can also power other pedals. This might help you with your problem. I checked it out on rolandus.com yesterday. N _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 15:45:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20826; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:44:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:44:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002501c100d3$7e2778a0$9aae5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Top 20 Report for June, 2001 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:41:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C100B1.F715D8A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C100B1.F715D8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice and CD Revolutions for June, 2001. Shows #219 to #223; 31-May-2001 to 24-June-2001 Reported in non-ranked order. Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net CONTACT: billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D AirSculpture - Quark Soup - Neu Harmony Green Isac - Groundrush - Spotted Peccary Hemisphere - Now - Groove Mike Griffin & Dave Fulton - The Most Distant Point Known - Hypnos Paul Nagle - Red Book/Blue Book - Neu Harmony Paul Vnuk, Jr. - Silence Speaks in Shadow - Hypnos Pyramid Peak - Atmosphere - Invisible Shadows Pyramid Peak - Fish'n Love - Invisible Shadows Pyramid Peak - Ocean Drive - Invisible Shadows Pyramid Peak - Random Events - Invisible Shadows Remotion - Between Fiction and Reality - Groove Rudy Adrian - Iridescence - Groove Sola Translatio - Mother Sunrise - Hypnos Spacecraft - Cybersphere - SpaceForMusic.com Steve Roach - Structures from Silence - Projekt Syndromeda - The Alien Abduction Phenomenon - Groove/Neu Harmony Tom Heasley - Where the Earth Meets the Sky - Hypnos Tranquillity - Core - Invisible Shadows Under The Dome - UtD - Concerts at Jodrel Bank - Neu Harmony Victor Cerullo - Loneflyer - Groove ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C100B1.F715D8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" = Top 20=20 report to
New Age Voice and CD Revolutions for June, 2001.
Shows = #219 to=20 #223; 31-May-2001 to 24-June-2001
Reported in non-ranked = order.
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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C100B1.F715D8A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 16:58:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23104; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:56:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:56:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010630155542.007de960@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:55:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: Re: multiple amps/signals In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You might check out the GCX from Digital Music Corporation. Very versitile. Two or more can be chained. I have one, would prefer two. M... At 03:30 PM 6/30/01 -0400, you wrote: > > > >>From: "Mike Feeney" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>To: >>Subject: Re: multiple amps/signals >>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:09:22 -0500 >> >> >>i've been coming up against the same hurdle here... I am building a >>pedalboard with the boomerang as my looper along with some other effects. >>I >>have an acoustic guitar and also an electric. I want to have both guitars >>plugged into the rig at the same time, but of course have the ability to >>switch from one to the other when I want, so that I can loop both guitars. >>My only problem is that when I'm playing the acoustic I want the signal to >>go to the PA, but when I'm playing electric, I want the signal to run to my >>amp (just got a new Fender Hot Rod DeVille!). Any advice on how to route >>the signal?? Probably just going to use an A/B switch for the inputs, but >>I'm not yet sure how to handle the output, unless I just use a 2nd A/B >>switch. But then that could be awkward, I think, to have to hit two >>different switches to change guitars. Not sure. >> >>The 2nd hurdle is that I'm thinking I'd have to use two different loopers >>in >>order to loop the acoustic guitar and have it continue to run through the >>PA >>if I wanted to use both instruments in the same song. Any other ideas? > >Mike- > I figured that this would be a common theme with different problems. I >think they both center around using the boomerang in 2 different, but like >situations. > I have been running a small pedal board that splits my signal before the >rang but after effects. I use an a/b to control the signals which only >differ by the rang. The looped signal goes to an old super reverb, and the >other to a newer concert. I have a volume pedal that I turn down when I plug >and uplug guitars. > My problem is that the electrix products I just got really need to go >through an effects loop, which only the concert has. I know it seems logical >to just loop on the concert, but loops sound better out of the super. >Anyway, I think that there is a rather complex way to route using many >cables and the aux on the rang, but it makes my head hurt just thinking >about it. I would imagine that there are good switching systems out there >that some loopers might know about. > Boss makes a good and very flexible line selecter for a hundred bucks that >can also power other pedals. This might help you with your problem. I >checked it out on rolandus.com yesterday. >N > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 17:13:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24627; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:11:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:11:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3E4049.6F70F01A@altruistmusic.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:10:33 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LA Loop Feste Review References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 'Allo Guv'nor, Steve Lawson wrote: > I'm really not worried how people relate to it, so long as they do Some of the best advice I'm heard in ages; thank you. Sometimes I'm susceptible to getting lost in contemplation of the vast expanses of empty nothingness between my ears... > BTW, I'm at Jazz and Java in Redlands tonight, if anyone wants to come > down... > > see my website for details of the manring/walker/lawson tour... Anyone who's on this list, and can check out either of these deals, DO IT! It absolutely should not be missed; Steve's solo show is essential listening for those interested in looping. And I can only imagine what the trio tour next week is going to sound like... wish I could make it. --Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 17:13:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24631; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:12:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:12:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3E405E.26B995E@altruistmusic.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:10:54 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LA Loop Feste Review References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_IcieC.A.sAG.bCkP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gary Lehmann wrote: > plus don't forget that > everyone is entitled to make up their own minds Very true. > I think I qualify--sorry if I come off wrong(live and online) but at least > honesty R Us-- No worries, mate! (See, now Steve's lingo is rubbing off...) I'm always interested in hearing what people have to say... > Oh and one of the distinguishing characteristics of Andre's manipulation of > the EDP was using the insert button as reverse to end a loop--at least on > the first tune(the use of the nextloop button as quoted by Kevin refers to > tune #2) You are correct, sir! --A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 17:34:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25172; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:32:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:32:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B3E4524.9BAE1C71@altruistmusic.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:31:17 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop Feste Decompression - question for Andre References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-G_yw.A.MJG.kVkP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Chris Chovit wrote: > >and liberal use of the top-secret > >remultiply+undo "bug" maneuver (aka "The Sylmar Shuffle"). > > Could you elaborate on this? I must have missed it when it was discussed > previously....or maybe it is really top-secret..... Shucks, man, that's my whole routine right there! So much for my career... Remultiply a loop, and then hit "undo." It scrolls through the memory of different sections of the loop in intriguing and unpredictable ways. I stumbled across it with another EDP user by accident, but I know at least one other person had found out about it on his own... There was a thread on this a couple of years back. Apparently it's technically a bug, according to Kim, but it's such a cool feature that many of us asked that it not be "fixed" in the next software edition. So now my trade secret is out. Time to for me to retire, I guess! :-/ --A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 17:55:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25776; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:54:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:54:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <23.dce6b13.286fa475@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:53:57 EDT Subject: Re: Loop Feste Decompression - question for Andre To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <393X.A.JSG.5pkP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Time to for me to retire, I guess! in that case, i'll go, too! meetya in san gimigniano..... olives, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 19:32:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29649; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:31:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:31:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <89.8927bcc.286b8ff3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:30:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP's just turned up in UK Resent-Message-ID: <3bmRwC.A.HPH.sEmP7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi- Since Switzerland does not require CE, you can also get EDP's there. From what I've heard the distributer there is called Zenker Ltd., and their website is http://www.zenker.ch. I believe they have them in stock. kim >In a message dated 27/06/01 15:00:49 GMT Daylight Time, >Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > >> Does this mean the long awaited EC verion is finally shipping ? My >> friendly local emporium (Midician, Gent Belgium) has been trying to >> get hold of some, but whom has distributership is very unclear at the >> moment . >> >> Hmm ... i wonder which machine will hit these lowland shores first ;^) >No, no CE yet. >I bought them straight from Trace Elliot. >if you're interested contact >andy.ewen@trace-elliot.com > >they have about 80 machines to sell, > >andy butler ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 19:37:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29875; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:35:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:35:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 00:38:47 +0100 Subject: Re: Loop Feste Decompression - question for Andre From: roberto To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <23.dce6b13.286fa475@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 30/6/01 10:53 PM, Hedewa7@aol.com at Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: >> Time to for me to retire, I guess! > in that case, i'll go, too! > meetya in san gimigniano..... > olives, > dt / s-c > ...out of curiosity, how did you think of San Gimigniano? I lived near there for a while and couldn't think of a better place to retire, play music, enjoy more than just the olives... Roberto P.S. Andre's CD is really worth listening to. ______________________________________________ Roberto Battista http://www.robat.scl.net http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 Mobile 0775 960 4344 ______________________________________________ http://www.rustyrobot.com independent on-line music distribution, the music you can't find elsewhere, hybrid, eclectic, world, looped, unusual... ______________________________________________ http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm an exciting project on technology applied to mobile education for developing countries and remote locations... ______________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 22:37:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04101; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 22:34:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 22:34:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 22:34:13 -0400 Subject: Call for NYC Loopfeste From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200106301932.PAA20551@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3076785253_3265177_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3076785253_3265177_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit OK guys -- this LA loopfeste sounds great -- wish I had been there. Is there a tape or CD or online file or something so we non-westcoasters can check it out? But more importantly, why don't we NYC loopers get together and do an evening to share our work with each other? Any interest? --MS_Mac_OE_3076785253_3265177_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Call for NYC Loopfeste OK guys -- this LA loopfeste sounds great -- wish I had been= there.
Is there a tape or CD or online file or something so we non-westcoasters ca= n check it out?
But more importantly, why don't we NYC loopers get together and do an eveni= ng to share our work with each other?  Any interest? --MS_Mac_OE_3076785253_3265177_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 30 23:33:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06329; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:31:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:31:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "J. Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Loop Feste Decompression - question for Andre Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:58:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, lovely place, been there. But my all-time favorite place to die in is Siena, no question. | -----Original Message----- | From: roberto [mailto:roberto@nomade.worldonline.co.uk] | Sent: Saturday 30 June 2001 3:39 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com | Subject: Re: Loop Feste Decompression - question for Andre | | | on 30/6/01 10:53 PM, Hedewa7@aol.com at Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: | | >> Time to for me to retire, I guess! | > in that case, i'll go, too! | > meetya in san gimigniano..... | > olives, | > dt / s-c | > | ...out of curiosity, how did you think of San Gimigniano? I | lived near there | for a while and couldn't think of a better place to retire, play music, | enjoy more than just the olives... | | Roberto | | P.S. | Andre's CD is really worth listening to. | | ______________________________________________ | Roberto Battista | http://www.robat.scl.net | http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm | Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 | Mobile 0775 960 4344 | ______________________________________________ | http://www.rustyrobot.com | independent on-line music distribution, | the music you can't find elsewhere, | hybrid, eclectic, world, looped, unusual... | ______________________________________________ | http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm | an exciting project on technology applied to | mobile education for developing countries and | remote locations... | ______________________________________________